OCLogs: 2016-04-06.log

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L6[00:06:42] <asie> %flip decisions

L7[00:06:43] <MichiBot> asie: (╯°□°）╯︵suoısıɔǝp

L8[00:06:46] <asie> to get portable console or not to get

L9[00:06:57] <asie> %flip my brain's slow decision-making

L10[00:06:59] <MichiBot> asie: (╯°□°）╯︵ɓuıʞɐɯ-uoısıɔǝp ʍols s,uıɐɹq ʎɯ

L11[00:08:08] <payo-remote> Vexatos: would you mind giving me a quick code review?

L12[00:08:21] <Vexatos> magic

L13[00:08:21] <payo-remote> https://git.io/vVVkk

L14[00:09:38] <Vexatos> ...and?

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L16[00:09:49] <payo-remote> that's all

L17[00:09:58] <payo-remote> just wanted your eyes on it

L18[00:10:04] <Vexatos> looks fine

L19[00:10:06] <payo-remote> ok thanks

L20[00:10:29] <Vexatos> it only restores the cache on key_down with char 9, right?

L21[00:10:34] <payo-remote> yes

L22[00:10:39] <Vexatos> ok

L23[00:10:39] <payo-remote> that's the intent, anyways

L24[00:10:45] <Vexatos> Then it seems correct

L25[00:10:49] <payo-remote> and drops it on clipboard and keydown

L26[00:11:02] <Vexatos> rashy, I'm adding a new item to Computronics and I was wondering what to put on its manual page since it's just a creative max memory stick

L27[00:11:49] <rashy> do lesser versions of the memory stick exist? I'd probably insert it as a blurb in that page instead.

L28[00:11:50] <Saintmare> can manual be xml, html, smth like that?

L29[00:12:12] <Vexatos> rashy, I mean, I could just link to the OC page on memory

L30[00:12:19] <rashy> oh

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L32[00:13:06] <Vexatos> I am also tempted to make a memory stick called "Google Chrome" that halves the available amount of RAM but I'd probably get sued for that :P

L33[00:13:06] <rashy> that memory stick - sure. could add a note about that in the OC manual then ("if you have computronics, you get a creative memory stick")

L34[00:13:12] <Vexatos> no

L35[00:13:40] <Vexatos> (Now that my PR is merged, you can make memory sticks that reduce RAM >_>)

L36[00:13:46] <rashy> XD

L37[00:14:43] <payo-remote> i'm so excited, i'm going to test something in oc 1.3

L38[00:14:46] <payo-remote> i've never used 1.3!!

L39[00:15:32] <Saintmare> Vexatos, fine idea about "Chrome"

L40[00:16:05] <payo-remote> OH MAN, /oc_sc didn't exist

L41[00:16:25] <Vexatos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1732/

L42[00:16:27] <Vexatos> Praise it

L43[00:16:28] <Kodos> I dont' even remember what's been new since 1.3

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L45[00:16:57] <Kodos> btw Vexatos Mimiru is putting in both a raid rack and the fixed secure networking card

L46[00:17:12] <Vexatos> seriously

L47[00:17:22] <Vexatos> how does a RAID mountable belong into OS

L48[00:17:29] <Kodos> Logfile storing

L49[00:17:34] <payo-remote> OAH

L50[00:17:36] <payo-remote> WOAH

L51[00:17:37] <payo-remote> holy crap

L52[00:17:42] <payo-remote> that booted SUPER fast

L53[00:18:00] <payo-remote> OpenOS 1.2

L54[00:18:03] <payo-remote> it's glorious

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L56[00:24:17] <asie> it's like

L57[00:24:19] <asie> ms-dos

L58[00:24:27] <asie> that also boots fast

L59[00:31:56] <Vexatos> hm asie... should I make a new item for creative OC parts

L60[00:32:13] <Izaya> yus, 4 more tiny laptops

L61[00:34:06] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/gf0vKqk.jpg

L62[00:35:06] <payo-remote> and a tier 2 internet card for flash and youtube

L63[00:36:26] <xarses> blah, isn't ctrl+alt+c supposed to break a program?

L64[00:36:43] <payo-remote> xarses: try d

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L66[00:37:16] <payo-remote> ctrl+alt+d, that is

L67[00:37:18] <xarses> nope

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L70[00:39:46] <Vexatos> Ctrl+Alt+C, yes

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L72[00:40:22] <xarses> no ctrl+alt+c for me

L73[00:40:37] <xarses> and in the process of testing every ctrl-alt I killed my X session

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L76[00:46:26] <xarses_> so anyways, ctrl+alt+c is a bust, but you guys are on page that its supposed to work still, so is anyone else running linux?

L77[00:48:59] <Temia> Moo.

L78[00:49:01] <Temia> What's up?

L79[00:49:41] <Temia> Oh, uh. hm.

L80[00:50:01] <Temia> I don't think I even have Minecraft installed on my workstation anymore, so I can't help >.>

L81[00:50:34] <rashy> -snuggles moo and goes to bed-

L82[00:50:36] <Saintmare> i'm running linux as system for rescue my computer

L83[00:50:55] <Saintmare> using it very rare

L84[00:51:15] <greaser|q> ctrl-c might work?

L85[00:51:49] <greaser|q> xarses_: is this OC or linux that you need to break a program in

L86[00:51:58] <greaser|q> because for linux it's just ctrl-c

L87[00:52:16] <greaser|q> although some programs are arseholes so you have to send a suitable signal

L88[00:52:46] <snowden89> also what keyboard langauge is being used

L89[00:52:50] <snowden89> english US

L90[00:52:51] <Temia> Pretty sure the issue is that they're breaking in OC and something's intercepting the Ctrl-Alt-C key combo in Xorg

L91[00:52:51] <xarses_> it was a while loop that never went false in the lua interpreter

L92[00:52:52] <snowden89> or others

L93[00:52:55] <xarses_> en_US

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L95[00:53:11] <xarses> Temia: thats my guess

L96[00:53:19] <Temia> What's your desktop environment?

L97[00:53:24] <Saintmare> i tried to play mc on linux(ubuntu, as it is, love it for quick install), fps is smaller than on windows 7

L98[00:53:24] <xarses> gnome3

L99[00:53:35] <Temia> Ah, hm.

L100[00:53:47] <snowden89> what about right alt?

L101[00:53:52] <snowden89> any change?

L102[00:54:24] * Temia oddly has far greater performance with Linux than with Win7, but she also happens to run a more lightweight distro and environment >.>

L103[00:54:41] <snowden89> see variables in that is more so

L104[00:54:47] <snowden89> the handling of GPU

L105[00:54:53] <Temia> Yeah, I was about to say.

L106[00:55:30] <snowden89> cause linux is almost always a lower resource enviroment

L107[00:55:33] <snowden89> lol

L108[00:55:40] <snowden89> cause windows tries to handle everything

L109[00:55:47] <snowden89> linux will run only what it needs to

L110[00:55:58] <snowden89> and offloads it to other things if it can

L111[00:55:59] <Temia> Unless the distributors tell is to run more than that :p

L112[00:56:10] <Temia> *it

L113[00:56:23] <Temia> Then again, I'm not sure if there are any particularly egregious kernel modules.

L114[00:56:25] <snowden89> i dont know ubuntu with all the addons

L115[00:56:30] <snowden89> still does not do as much as windows

L116[00:56:38] <Temia> Yeah, fair enough

L117[00:56:40] <snowden89> in idle memory usage from my tests

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L119[01:02:53] <Kodos> Is Bluepower even being worked on still

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L121[01:05:43] <payo-remote> ok guys

L122[01:05:50] <payo-remote> before i push back on a request from soni

L123[01:05:59] <payo-remote> can y'all call my crap, fact check me, if you will

L124[01:06:56] <Temia> Not interested in giving Soni any quarter?

L125[01:06:58] <payo-remote> http://pastebin.com/59YVu9B6

L126[01:07:21] <payo-remote> soni is asking for lua prompt to not require = at the start to print values on 5.3 cpus

L127[01:07:33] <payo-remote> but maybe MY interpretations of things is not quite as it should be

L128[01:07:33] <Temia> Ah.

L129[01:08:02] <payo-remote> to me, Lua 5.2 arch on the CPU is like a different CPU

L130[01:08:10] <payo-remote> anyways, let me know if you guys see it differently.

L131[01:09:00] <greaser|q> maybe it's better to just not require the =

L132[01:09:07] <greaser|q> but it shouldn't be CPU-dependent

L133[01:09:13] <payo-remote> greaser|q: i'm more okay with that

L134[01:09:28] <payo-remote> but sounds like you agree with my original position that we not do thing CPU-specific

L135[01:09:46] <payo-remote> it isn't just a Lua version, but to OC, it's a different cpu

L136[01:11:22] <payo-remote> thanks greaser|q , made my comment with some correction

L137[01:11:50] <greaser|q> they're two mostly-compatible CPUs running the same OS

L138[01:12:18] <payo-remote> true

L139[01:12:21] <payo-remote> but, different cpus

L140[01:12:26] <payo-remote> conceptually

L141[01:12:28] <payo-remote> that's all

L142[01:12:34] <payo-remote> it's just an idea of it

L143[01:12:37] <greaser|q> there's nothing stopping Lua 5.2 being able to do what the Lua 5.3 prompt does

L144[01:12:42] <payo-remote> yeah

L145[01:27:09] <xarses> snowden89: right alt does nothing

L146[01:29:40] <snowden89> can you change the shortcut to kill in config?

L147[01:29:48] <snowden89> maybe to ctrl C to test

L148[01:31:22] <Kodos> So, I tried to make a modded 1.9 pack

L149[01:31:26] <Kodos> Finally got a world to load

L150[01:31:33] <Kodos> And I can't left or right click blocks

L151[01:31:39] <Kodos> I get an error in my console and it just does nothing in game

L152[01:32:07] <snowden89> is there an item creative one

L153[01:32:16] <snowden89> that gives you infinite items

L154[01:32:20] <snowden89> of that one type

L155[01:32:30] <snowden89> like if i put one of each ore type

L156[01:32:37] <snowden89> would infinitely output that

L157[01:32:45] <snowden89> in 1.8.9 / 1.9

L158[01:33:34] <snowden89> any mod

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L160[01:36:03] <payo-remote> Shuudoushi:

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L163[01:59:12] <payo-remote> i have an idea for wget

L164[01:59:15] <payo-remote> tomorrow htough

L165[01:59:16] <payo-remote> bedtime

L166[02:00:24] <snowden89> night

L167[02:04:28] <Elizabeth> o/

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L169[02:07:55] <xarses> should a bucket full of a liquid (the same as the tank) when robot.use 'd on the tank, which is full return true or false?

L170[02:08:49] <xarses> I thought It should return false, but on a RC tank it does not

L171[02:20:20] <Forecaster> xarses: did the fluid go into the tank?

L172[02:22:33] <Forecaster> oh the tank was full

L173[02:22:41] <Forecaster> does this not happen on other tanks?

L174[02:23:29] * Elizabeth makes sandwhiches whilst she waits for her vifino to wake up

L175[02:26:19] <xarses> Forecaster: did the bucket empty? I'm not sure

L176[02:26:28] <xarses> I've not tested it with other tanks yet

L177[02:27:18] <xarses> I'm just starting the troubleshooting, trying to figure out which is the expected result first

L178[02:27:52] <Forecaster> well first of all I'm not sure why you're having the robot use a bucket in the first place

L179[02:28:21] <Forecaster> second, "using" the bucket may be considered successful regardless of whether the fluid went anywhere or not

L180[02:28:45] <Forecaster> a robot with an inventory upgrade has an internal tank and can handle fluids much better that way you know

L181[02:32:32] <xarses> the water source will only interact with buckets

L182[02:33:03] <Forecaster> that's a stupid water source

L183[02:33:22] <xarses> that's the way it is, water is mostly finite

L184[02:33:26] * Elizabeth wonders when vifino will wake up

L185[02:33:36] <Forecaster> "mostly"?

L186[02:33:48] <Forecaster> Elizabeth: pour water on them

L187[02:34:12] <xarses> the world fluid blocks are finite and this bucket source is infinite

L188[02:34:24] <xarses> but the trade off is you have to automate buckets

L189[02:34:34] <Elizabeth> Forecaster: na, he's in my bed currently, i don't wnna soak that

L190[02:34:34] <Forecaster> use a railcraft water tank?

L191[02:34:46] <Forecaster> Elizabeth: it doesn't have to be a lot of water :P

L192[02:34:52] <Forecaster> a squirt bottle works

L193[02:34:56] <xarses> a) not fast enough, b) dry biome

L194[02:35:05] <Forecaster> use multiple :P

L195[02:35:11] <Elizabeth> I will however spray him with fabreeze if he's not up but the time i've finished these sandwhiches

L196[02:35:25] <xarses> Have 8, thats not the problem I'm trying to solve

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L198[02:35:45] <Forecaster> xarses: what you could do is compare the item with an empty bucket

L199[02:36:02] <Forecaster> if it matches the bucket obvioulsy emptied correctly, otherwise it didn't

L200[02:36:39] <xarses> I'm trying to determine if the use of a bucket, which didn't transition should emit true or false, I will figure out other solutions from there

L201[02:37:34] <xarses> I wasn't able to discern how to compare the use slot with a inv slot

L202[02:38:09] <xarses> its not marked on the api doc

L203[02:38:46] <xarses> do I have to take it out of tool slot first?

L204[02:42:18] * xarses keels over and falls alseep

L205[02:42:59] <Kodos> If you want to be sure of what slot you have selected, just re select it

L206[02:43:00] <Forecaster> you may have to do that

L207[02:43:09] <Kodos> ~w robot

L208[02:43:09] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot

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L211[02:53:31] <Elizabeth> woo, vifino is up, i htink

L212[02:53:55] <Kodos> So how long is he in town for?

L213[02:54:51] <Elizabeth> from last saturday till this friday (technically this saturday but we need to leave to the airport at 4am so meh)

L214[02:55:07] <Kodos> Only a week? That's lame

L215[02:55:38] <Kodos> When I went to Oregon to meet my future wife, I was there a month. I'd have been there longer but I had a meeting to go to with my case worker

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L217[02:56:26] <Elizabeth> yeah, would potentially do longer but flight timings and i have work most days of the week

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L221[03:04:44] * Elizabeth has a vifino hugging her

L222[03:05:13] <Elizabeth> haii - vifino#

L223[03:05:30] <Elizabeth> the uk kezboard is weird ./. - vifino

L224[03:05:44] <Kodos> One of these days I want to test out Mekanism's walkie talkies

L225[03:06:01] <Forecaster> what do they do?

L226[03:06:06] <Kodos> They're walkie talkies?

L227[03:06:22] <Kodos> What else would walkie talkies do :x

L228[03:06:29] <Forecaster> in minecraft? anything

L229[03:06:32] <Kodos> Lol

L230[03:06:36] <Kodos> Well they're actual voice comms

L231[03:06:41] <Forecaster> ah

L232[03:06:43] <Kodos> Supposed to be anyway

L233[03:06:46] <Kodos> Never tried them in a server

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L235[03:21:20] <g> Haha, gg blizzard

L236[03:21:38] <g> People were complaining that the default victory pose for one of the overwatch chars had too much butt

L237[03:21:41] <g> so, they replaced it

L238[03:21:42] <g> https://i.imgur.com/7XkBDCf.jpg

L239[03:22:18] <g> pretty much an exact match

L240[03:22:18] <g> lol

L241[03:22:23] <Forecaster> :P

L242[03:22:39] <g> Forecaster, you have explained railcraft signals to me, thanks :v

L243[03:22:48] <g> I wouldn't have gotten that .-.

L244[03:22:56] <Forecaster> you're welcome

L245[03:23:15] <g> I was sitting at the wiki page trying to figure out why it was useful, and then, yeah, videos xD

L246[03:23:48] <Elizabeth> Forecaster is best caaster

L247[03:24:21] <Forecaster> oh yeah, *the episode* goes up today :P

L248[03:24:31] <Forecaster> in about 2h30m

L249[03:24:33] <Forecaster> :3

L250[03:24:46] <Elizabeth> the one where yours truly pops up?

L251[03:24:50] <Forecaster> it's not tagged opencomputers so it wont be announced in here

L252[03:24:54] <Forecaster> but I'll link to it

L253[03:25:05] <Forecaster> yep

L254[03:25:06] <Elizabeth> cool, i'll probably be in london then

L255[03:25:08] <Elizabeth> cool

L256[03:26:33] <Kodos> Lizzy, you ever make it over to Wales ever

L257[03:27:01] <Kodos> Also I found the room I made the office out of =D

L258[03:27:48] <Elizabeth> Kodos: eh?

L259[03:27:56] <Kodos> The TARDIS Schemas

L260[03:28:05] <Kodos> Mimi got me the zip of all of the ones that are being used on PCL

L261[03:28:12] <Kodos> And I found the room I was using for my office inside my TARDIS

L262[03:29:17] <Elizabeth> I was questioning your comment about wales...

L263[03:29:27] <Kodos> Oh

L264[03:29:37] <Kodos> Did you ever watch Torchwood

L265[03:30:05] <Elizabeth> I watched all of Season one and part of season 2

L266[03:30:21] <Kodos> Erm

L267[03:30:27] <Kodos> I can't ask you without potentially spoiling something minor

L268[03:30:42] <Elizabeth> to be honest i got bored of torchwood

L269[03:30:47] <Kodos> Okay, then

L270[03:30:55] <Kodos> Did you ever see the bit when they had the cloaking sidewalk thinger

L271[03:31:25] <Elizabeth> nope

L272[03:31:36] <Kodos> Alrighty, nvm then =D

L273[03:31:38] <Elizabeth> Latest i got in season 2 was when Martha came

L274[03:33:25] <Kodos> Ah

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L276[03:34:12] <Elizabeth> vifino for president 2016

L277[03:34:21] <Elizabeth> .-.

L278[03:34:30] <Elizabeth> shhh

L279[03:37:33] <Forecaster> ooo, there's a channel where they crush things with a hydraulic press

L280[03:38:00] <snowden89> yeah its the new version of will it blend

L281[03:38:04] <snowden89> its now will it press!

L282[03:39:43] <Forecaster> sounds like a finnish accent

L283[03:41:07] <Forecaster> I'm not surprised the watch didn't compress very much

L284[03:41:20] <Forecaster> it's a pretty compact lump of metal

L285[03:45:46] <Forecaster> they even have a video named "Can you crush blender or blend hydraulic press?" :P

L286[03:45:56] <snowden89> lol

L287[03:45:58] <Kodos> Super annoyed with Computronics atm

L288[03:46:03] <Forecaster> ?

L289[03:46:05] <snowden89> why>

L290[03:46:18] <Kodos> For some reason, after loading a world in my pack, I can't load another one without completely restarting MC

L291[03:46:27] <Kodos> Ahd the log points to Computronics as the culprit, though I have no idea why

L292[03:46:46] <Forecaster> what's the log say?

L293[03:46:57] <Kodos> From what I can tell, it's an issue with removing audio?

L294[03:46:59] <Kodos> Let me puush it

L295[03:47:10] <snowden89> ascii finger pointing at computronics with a sign he did it!

L296[03:47:15] <Forecaster> I've never had issues loading worlds with my pack

L297[03:47:24] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/o81wp/27d4af464f.txt

L298[03:47:49] <Forecaster> what version are you on?

L299[03:47:53] <g> I knew there was something up with that..

L300[03:48:07] <Kodos> checking

L301[03:48:26] <g> Kodos, do the tapes work for you?

L302[03:48:34] <Kodos> I'd have to check

L303[03:48:40] <Kodos> Haven't tried in awhile

L304[03:48:45] <Kodos> Not sure I've tried at all with this version

L305[03:48:48] <Kodos> Pretty sure it's off the dev builds

L306[03:48:50] <g> Would you mind? They don't work for anyone in my pack

L307[03:48:56] <Kodos> Sure can, one sec

L308[03:48:57] <g> I'm using the latest, which is 1.6

L309[03:49:10] <Kodos> I've got 1.6.1 'tRonics

L310[03:49:17] <Kodos> "Rack thingers and stuff"

L311[03:49:18] <g> ytdl exists if you don't have a dfpwm

L312[03:49:23] <Kodos> But it's a devbuild

L313[03:49:39] <g> well if it works on that, I'll update

L314[03:50:15] <Forecaster> for 1.8?

L315[03:50:22] <g> 1.7.10 here

L316[03:50:45] <Kodos> http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/ This is where I got my build

L317[03:50:59] <Kodos> Huh, there's a newer one

L318[03:51:01] <Kodos> Let me grab that

L319[03:51:19] <g> Why do they have different names? Are they branches?

L320[03:51:35] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L321[03:51:46] <Forecaster> because vexatos is weird like that

L322[03:51:49] <Forecaster> they're not branches

L323[03:51:59] <g> this is confusing

L324[03:52:05] <Forecaster> apparently numbering them is the devil or something

L325[03:52:11] <g> also there aren't equivalents for each mc version..

L326[03:52:29] <Kodos> He just uses the latest feature that he's sto- err coded for reference

L327[03:53:22] <Kodos> Oh neat, RC 9.10 adds IC2 Classic Support

L328[03:53:28] <g> okay, so the date is more important, alright

L329[03:53:34] <Forecaster> yeah

L330[03:53:55] <Kodos> Grabbing RCA, too

L331[03:54:05] <Forecaster> RCA?

L332[03:54:11] <Kodos> Railcraft Cosmetic Additions

L333[03:54:19] <Forecaster> oh right

L334[03:54:22] <Kodos> Anyone know if Immersive Engineering works with IC2 Classic's EU?

L335[03:54:29] <Forecaster> no idea

L336[03:54:36] <Kodos> LET'S FIND OUT

L337[03:54:36] <Forecaster> don't use either of those

L338[03:54:39] <g> It doesn't work with EU in general afaik

L339[03:54:43] <g> it's an RF mod

L340[03:54:46] <Forecaster> it does

L341[03:55:02] <Forecaster> it converts to eu when connected to ic2 machines

L342[03:55:22] <g> huh, okay

L343[03:57:32] <Kodos> Hrm, error on startup with the newer tronics file. Let's see if I'm outdated on CoFHCore, since that was the last problem I had

L344[03:58:08] <Kodos> Hm, nope, not that

L345[03:58:36] <g> what's the error?

L346[03:59:26] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/o81Wv/45e40a1025.txt

L347[03:59:45] <g> I really don't know how the hell he manages to compile these things

L348[03:59:49] <g> that shouldn't compile

L349[04:01:58] <g> this thing is going to be so goddamn complicated

L350[04:02:05] <g> I feel like I'm gonna be building this for months

L351[04:02:38] <g> I'm making an underground rail system for my town-like base which, with OC's help, will hopefully allow me to move items and fluids around on request

L352[04:03:01] <Kodos> A buddy of mine has been working on a drone that puts out fires with water

L353[04:03:08] <g> haha, that's neat

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L355[04:04:13] <meep> haaaalp Elizabeth is slapping me with a scarf

L356[04:04:23] <g> Elizabeth: You go girl

L357[04:04:23] <Elizabeth> :D

L358[04:04:51] <meep> Shut up g

L359[04:04:54] <g> hoping to have a station like this at every building, going to have to use a lot of redstone IOs.. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/java_2016-04-06_10-04-25.png

L360[04:05:49] <Kodos> Pretty crossbow

L361[04:05:59] <g> enderium

L362[04:06:20] <Kodos> I hope TiC2 is updated soon for 1.9

L363[04:06:21] <Kodos> Broken atm

L364[04:06:42] <g> I'm sticking on 1.7.10 for now

L365[04:06:45] <Kodos> Also hoping Vex logs in so I can throw this crashlog at him

L366[04:07:00] <g> a crashlog like that, he'll probably already know about

L367[04:07:08] <g> I mean the client won't start, so

L368[04:07:12] <Elizabeth> anyway, off to Londinium

L369[04:07:16] <Kodos> o/

L370[04:07:40] <g> o/

L371[04:07:42] <g> Kodos,

L372[04:07:42] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/java_2016-04-06_10-07-49.png

L373[04:07:50] <Kodos> Jesus

L374[04:08:02] <g> haha

L375[04:08:03] <Kodos> Do you have moss on the bolts?

L376[04:08:03] <g> yeah

L377[04:08:06] <g> yes

L378[04:08:13] <Kodos> Sooo auto ammo refill?

L379[04:08:13] <g> Only one though

L380[04:08:15] <g> yep

L381[04:08:32] <Kodos> If I had the throwing knives set up like that, I'd probably go get a ninja skin

L382[04:08:32] <g> I'll probably put some quartz on them as well, maybe a fire crystal

L383[04:08:41] <Kodos> Would be hilarious

L384[04:08:44] <g> haha

L385[04:08:49] <g> they're not accurate unfortunately

L386[04:08:57] <g> the shurikens are a bit more accurate

L387[04:09:38] <g> bolts for good measure: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/java_2016-04-06_10-09-44.png

L388[04:10:03] <g> slime fletching is the most accurate

L389[04:11:03] <Kodos> Looks like it does work with IC2 Classic

L390[04:11:05] <Kodos> (IE)

L391[04:11:08] <g> Nice

L392[04:11:36] <Kodos> Only 4 hearts?

L393[04:11:41] <Kodos> Does the 22 from the xbow carry over?

L394[04:11:44] <g> Yeah

L395[04:11:47] <Kodos> Ah, that's nice then

L396[04:11:56] <g> 39 from the crossbow + 4 from the bolts

L397[04:12:11] <g> + a max of 20.5 from crits

L398[04:12:27] <g> 63.5 hearts max damage

L399[04:12:38] <g> which is, of course, 127 actual damage points, without armor

L400[04:12:57] <g> (players start with 20)

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L402[04:14:12] <lunarmom> Finally! After several days, I had enough diamonds to make a T3 case and use this.

L403[04:14:31] <Forecaster> "this"?

L404[04:14:36] <lunarmom> wocchat

L405[04:14:53] <Forecaster> you need a T3 case for that?

L406[04:15:05] <lunarmom> Yeah, unless you have an APU.

L407[04:15:14] <Forecaster> ah

L408[04:15:17] <greaser|q> does it really need a T3 GPU

L409[04:15:28] <greaser|q> or are internet cards T3

L410[04:15:34] <greaser|q> either way, congrats on your dedication

L411[04:15:36] <lunarmom> They're T2

L412[04:15:37] <Forecaster> internet cards are T2

L413[04:16:20] <lunarmom> Just that I had a T2 GPU and only one T2 slot

L414[04:16:34] <lunarmom> So I couldn't get the internet card in.

L415[04:16:56] <Forecaster> ah

L416[04:17:03] <lunarmom> I spent a lot of time making an excavator with Immersive Engineering.

L417[04:17:51] <lunarmom> And also using that mod to power this setup.

L418[04:18:37] <lunarmom> In the end, I kinda had to cheat, because IE uses a shit-ton of steel

L419[04:19:33] <Forecaster> gasp

L420[04:19:34] <lunarmom> But yeah, I still spent hours upon hours.

L421[04:20:09] <lunarmom> I didn't just give myself the pieces for the multiblock structure, I gave myself the base materials in exchange for deleting diamonds.

L422[04:20:36] <lunarmom> Then crafted/processed those base materials.

L423[04:20:44] <lunarmom> A painstaking process.

L424[04:20:51] <lunarmom> And here I sit now.

L425[04:20:52] <snowden89> I would have just joined irc :P

L426[04:20:54] <snowden89> lol

L427[04:21:31] <lunarmom> Well, I've been struggling with IRL stuff, and I needed to take my mind off that.

L428[04:21:51] <lunarmom> You know how it can be, right?

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L430[04:22:21] <Kodos> Indeed

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L432[04:22:28] <Kodos> The stress of every day life can be burdening

L433[04:22:49] <lunarmom> I'm more in pain than stressed.

L434[04:23:07] <lunarmom> I relieve stress with meditation, but I didn't have any painkillers.

L435[04:24:46] <lunarmom> None I could swallow, anyway.

L436[04:25:14] <lunarmom> I need fizzy tablets to dissolve in water.

L437[04:28:04] <lunarmom> Anyway, how are you all doing?

L438[04:28:39] <lunarmom> Guessing not everyone is on in-game IRC?

L439[04:29:18] <g> er, most people here don't do it ingame

L440[04:29:19] <g> lol

L441[04:29:38] <lunarmom> xD

L442[04:29:40] <g> some people don't even play minecraft

L443[04:29:43] <lunarmom> Just me, then?

L444[04:29:58] <lunarmom> Christ, that makes me feel sad.

L445[04:30:32] <g> haha

L446[04:30:38] <g> it's easier to use a real IRC client

L447[04:30:42] <lunarmom> I'm the only one with enough dedication to build my own crappy Minecraft PC?

L448[04:30:58] <g> Nah, this is OC, we use them for other things

L449[04:31:25] <lunarmom> I'd use it for reactor control, but I don't have the materials.

L450[04:31:43] <g> yeah, that's one of the things we use it for on my server

L451[04:31:47] <lunarmom> And tbph, I like to talk more.

L452[04:32:13] <lunarmom> Does your server utilize SecureOS?

L453[04:33:15] <greaser|q> i generally play in creative because, well, i started playing when 0.23_01 was the version

L454[04:33:25] <lunarmom> Ah

L455[04:34:17] <lunarmom> I like to play Survival, but generally on Peaceful, or Easy-Normal with mobgriefing set to false.

L456[04:34:42] <greaser|q> lemme guess, you don't like creepers?

L457[04:34:50] <lunarmom> does anyone?

L458[04:34:57] <greaser|q> i hate skeletons more

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L460[04:35:26] <Kodos> Zombies annoy me the most, with the door banging

L461[04:35:30] <lunarmom> Well, skeletons give you bonemeal, and don't destroy your handcrafted shit.

L462[04:36:09] <lunarmom> Zombies are the most mentally straining, I agree.

L463[04:36:15] <g> <lunarmom> Does your server utilize SecureOS?

L464[04:36:21] <g> Never used it

L465[04:36:28] <lunarmom> I've used it.

L466[04:36:45] <lunarmom> It requires a uname and pw

L467[04:37:01] <lunarmom> and has built in security functions.

L468[04:37:07] <g> yeah, I know what it is

L469[04:37:10] <g> Never had a use for it

L470[04:37:51] <Kodos> lunarmom, the author of that is here, you know.

L471[04:38:01] <lunarmom> Oh, really?

L472[04:38:03] <Kodos> Yes

L473[04:38:10] <Kodos> Shuudoushi, you have a fan =)

L474[04:38:11] <lunarmom> :)

L475[04:38:38] <Kodos> I'm technically a contributor, but I wrote all of a dozen lines I think

L476[04:38:42] <meep> choo choo

L477[04:38:50] <Kodos> And those were coin tossing and dice rolling functions

L478[04:38:58] <meep> Liz n me r in choochoo to london

L479[04:39:03] <Kodos> Nice

L480[04:39:04] <lunarmom> I've been looking into setting up a server net within a server.

L481[04:39:19] <Kodos> OC Networking is daunting (to me)

L482[04:39:28] <Kodos> I can get basic stuff going

L483[04:39:34] <Kodos> But anything advanced and I just turn into a drooling mess.

L484[04:39:50] <lunarmom> I have some experience with setting up individual servers IRL, but other than that...

L485[04:40:28] <lunarmom> I kinda want to recreate Hacknet in Minecraft.

L486[04:43:23] <Kodos> That'd be neat

L487[04:43:29] <lunarmom> OpenOS and Hacknet have a lot in common, so.

L488[04:44:29] <lunarmom> All that's missing is the software for SSH, porthacks...

L489[04:44:42] <Kodos> Only games I've really messed with were a zork-like and an archery program (Since an arrow shot at higher tier screens counts as a touch)

L490[04:44:54] <lunarmom> Ah

L491[04:45:27] <Kodos> At some point, if no one else does by the time I get around to it, I will probably make a lib that will let you draw arbitrary shapes on the screen

L492[04:45:52] <Kodos> Probably just spheroids and cuboids, but still

L493[04:46:00] <lunarmom> Yeah, it's something :o

L494[04:46:03] <Kodos> Wait, is spheroids a word? I forget :x

L495[04:46:07] <lunarmom> It is

L496[04:46:08] <Kodos> It's been years since school

L497[04:46:10] <Kodos> Okay, good

L498[04:46:23] <lunarmom> Been years for me too, I just read up on wikis

L499[04:46:52] <lunarmom> Sometimes I pull out a yoooge book from my shelf.

L500[04:47:19] <lunarmom> Got the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics.

L501[04:48:03] <lunarmom> I like to look at the molecular structure of organic and inorganic compounds from time to time.

L502[04:49:42] <lunarmom> An acquired interest from when I watched Breaking Bad.

L503[04:49:54] <Kodos> Heh

L504[04:50:16] <Kodos> I just mostly like tinkering with code, and finding useless things to do with OC and its addons in Minecraft

L505[04:50:25] <lunarmom> Nice x3

L506[04:50:59] <lunarmom> I used to tinker with code some, but mostly HTML and CSS.

L507[04:51:13] <Kodos> I made a program here the other day that takes a player's current coordinates, stores them, teleports the player to a computer that's running code to have them fill out a form for a suggestion or player/admin complaint, and then teleports them back. Then the program will print out the complaint/suggestion on paper

L508[04:51:31] <Kodos> so an admin can store it for later in a filing cabinet or what have you

L509[04:51:42] <lunarmom> That is awesome.

L510[04:51:56] <lunarmom> It genuinely inspires awe.

L511[04:52:38] <lunarmom> I just thought of pairing that with a TE teleportation plate.

L512[04:53:03] <Kodos> Could do

L513[04:53:07] * Elizabeth is on her way to London with her vifino

L514[04:53:16] <lunarmom> But then, that'd mean you couldn't pull someone from just anywhere.

L515[04:53:18] <Kodos> Before the port limit on modems, I had a realllly well documented program for network message logging

L516[04:53:26] <lunarmom> They'd have to physically stand on a plate.

L517[04:53:28] <Izaya> "meep | Liz n me r in choochoo to london"

L518[04:54:07] <lunarmom> what is 'vifino'?

L519[04:54:16] <Kodos> vifino is one of our regular chatters here

L520[04:54:20] <Kodos> He and Lizzy are dating.

L521[04:54:23] <Kodos> (I assume, anyway)

L522[04:54:27] <lunarmom> Ah xD

L523[04:54:30] <lunarmom> I see

L524[04:54:56] <g> haha, good way to explain geoblocking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbiacSD13qk

L525[04:54:57] <MichiBot> Imagine this happening to you when shopping (hidden camera) | length: 2m 32s | Likes: 70 Dislikes: 1 Views: 2628 | by BEUC - The European Consumer Organisation

L526[04:56:53] <Elizabeth> Kodos: yes

L527[04:57:04] <Kodos> Well, there you go.

L528[04:57:07] <lunarmom> Oh wow.

L529[04:57:10] <lunarmom> Yes.

L530[04:57:22] <lunarmom> That is a perfect way to explain geoblocking.

L531[04:59:06] <lunarmom> Kodos: How much of Hacknet have you seen?

L532[04:59:16] <Kodos> The store page of Steam =)

L533[04:59:29] <lunarmom> I've played through a bit of it.

L534[04:59:40] <lunarmom> It's pretty damned good.

L535[05:00:04] <snowden89> :P

L536[05:00:08] <Kodos> I played TIS-100 off and on

L537[05:00:11] <snowden89> create a lue turtle

L538[05:00:12] <Kodos> Got stuck

L539[05:00:12] <lunarmom> If you care to look around, there's bash quotes in a lot of places.

L540[05:00:21] <snowden89> lua*

L541[05:00:31] <snowden89> as in the line drawing program

L542[05:00:33] <lunarmom> I played TIS-100

L543[05:00:37] <snowden89> not the CC turtles

L544[05:00:59] <Kodos> snowden89, are you referring to the game 'Snake'?

L545[05:01:10] <lunarmom> I'm up to 90% achievements on that.

L546[05:01:33] <lunarmom> One of a few games I've 100%-ed is The Long Dark.

L547[05:01:36] <Kodos> lunarmom, then allow me to brighten your day. One moment...

L548[05:01:57] <Kodos> http://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/238603-tis-3d

L549[05:02:12] <lunarmom> Oh yes, I've seen that :3

L550[05:02:47] <lunarmom> I've thought about trying it, but I'm not currently up for that.

L551[05:03:31] <lunarmom> I got through most of it in 8 hours xD

L552[05:03:32] <Kodos> I really wish this one iHeart channel would work =(

L553[05:03:45] <lunarmom> iHeart channel?

L554[05:03:49] <Kodos> iHeart Radio

L555[05:04:06] <lunarmom> What kind of radio is that?

L556[05:04:11] <Kodos> Internet radio

L557[05:04:16] <Kodos> For music

L558[05:04:26] <Kodos> %g iheart

L559[05:04:28] <lunarmom> Do they play techno love ballads?

L560[05:04:28] <MichiBot> Kodos: http://www.iheart.com/ - iHeartRadio: Listen to Free Radio Stations & Music Online: "iHeartRadio. All your music. All your stations. All free. Listen to live AM & FM

L561[05:04:36] <Kodos> They'll play anything you want

L562[05:04:41] <Kodos> Except Yodeling Slim Clark, apparently

L563[05:04:47] <lunarmom> xD

L564[05:05:03] <lunarmom> Do you like Perturbator?

L565[05:05:25] <Kodos> Not big on synth tbh

L566[05:05:37] <lunarmom> I am yooooge on synth.

L567[05:06:02] <Elizabeth> %tell Vexatos https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/issues/193#issuecomment-206280052 feel free to close that

L568[05:06:03] <MichiBot> Elizabeth: Vexatos will be notified of this message when next seen.

L569[05:06:10] <lunarmom> Maybe because I play it myself.

L570[05:06:41] <lunarmom> Big fan of Wendy Carlos' work.

L571[05:06:42] <Kodos> I like music from the 20s to the 60s

L572[05:07:00] <Kodos> Egads, soon I'll have to specify the 1920s...

L573[05:07:15] <lunarmom> The scores of A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, TRON...

L574[05:07:43] <Forecaster> TIL you can pull out the win10 start menu horizontally

L575[05:07:51] <lunarmom> Yeah, in just 4 short years.

L576[05:07:52] <Forecaster> that is neat

L577[05:08:10] <lunarmom> Yea

L578[05:09:09] <lunarmom> I've learned how to program synths, and have been playing around with Sonic PI some.

L579[05:09:30] <Forecaster> sonic PI is cool

L580[05:09:35] <lunarmom> ^

L581[05:09:36] <Forecaster> I wish I had more time to learn it

L582[05:09:41] <Kodos> I prefer pumpkin pie myself

L583[05:10:08] <lunarmom> I've recreated part of Gary Numan's "Are Friends Electric" with that.

L584[05:10:30] <Forecaster> now it's time to make lunch burgers

L585[05:10:45] <lunarmom> Ever tried pizza burgers?

L586[05:10:53] <Forecaster> no

L587[05:11:26] <lunarmom> Well, they may or may not be something for you, but I like 'em.

L588[05:11:43] <Kodos> Hm, can T3 Data Card not do RSA?

L589[05:12:26] <g> I think you'd need computronics for that

L590[05:12:29] <lunarmom> I don't know, but it says nothing in description.

L591[05:12:40] <greaser|q> i think data cards use ECDSA instead

L592[05:12:49] <Kodos> Yeah, that's waht I'm seeing. Ah well, thanks anyway.

L593[05:12:51] <greaser|q> protip, remember to randomise k

L594[05:13:00] <greaser|q> anyhow i'm out

L595[05:13:08] <lunarmom> o/

L596[05:13:11] <Kodos> Honestly, I know fuckall for encryption, or I'd be incorporating it into my programs

L597[05:13:15] <Kodos> o7

L598[05:13:32] <lunarmom> I've read a lot about encryption.

L599[05:13:58] <lunarmom> Everything from the earliest forms to PGP and Quantum Encryption.

L600[05:15:45] <Kodos> My "Secure" file transmission software consists of ROT13'ing a file and deflating it

L601[05:15:53] <Kodos> Then serializing that and sending it

L602[05:16:13] <g> if in doubt: bcrypt

L603[05:16:19] <g> (for passwords, etc)

L604[05:16:35] <g> otherwise a secure form of rsa with keypairs, yeah

L605[05:16:50] <Kodos> Well, for OC, it doesn't have to be super secure so I will probably break down one day and just hash the passwords and store the hash

L606[05:17:05] <g> I dunno if you can get access to bcrypt in OC to be fair

L607[05:17:08] <Kodos> Then compare a hashed input

L608[05:17:09] <g> but it has all that stuff

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L611[05:17:51] <Elizabeth> Woo, fenchurch Street station

L612[05:18:02] <lunarmom> I just extended my screen a bit.

L613[05:18:24] <lunarmom> Now I can actually read what it says out of the window xD

L614[05:18:39] <Kodos> I'm sorry, Lizzy, I just can't think of London without at least half a dozen Doctor Who episodes going through my head.

L615[05:19:14] * g used to live in London

L616[05:20:20] * lunarmom plays the Dr Who theme

L617[05:21:00] <lunarmom> Is it true that everyone leaves for Christmas?

L618[05:21:23] <g> in london? no

L619[05:21:26] <g> A lot of people do though

L620[05:21:45] <g> if you have family outside of london you might as well go to them instead of hanging about in a big dirty city

L621[05:21:57] <lunarmom> Yeah, true.

L622[05:22:34] <lunarmom> I live in a rural community.

L623[05:22:47] <g> yeah, I do as well now

L624[05:22:47] <lunarmom> With crap internet.

L625[05:22:50] <g> small town in kerry

L626[05:22:54] <g> we have fiber though so whatever

L627[05:23:02] <lunarmom> I'm jelly.

L628[05:23:11] <lunarmom> Spread me on buttered toast.

L629[05:23:11] <g> we only got it like

L630[05:23:14] <g> halfway though last year

L631[05:23:20] <g> ah, you're american?

L632[05:23:29] <lunarmom> xD

L633[05:23:41] <lunarmom> No, I only mostly talk to americans

L634[05:23:59] <lunarmom> I'm Swedish/Finnish

L635[05:24:05] <g> I get that american "jelly" is just jam without fruit parts

L636[05:24:05] <g> but

L637[05:24:24] <g> it's not the wibbly wobbly fruity tooty tasty wasty stuff

L638[05:24:42] <lunarmom> x'D

L639[05:24:55] <Kodos> I really, really, -really- want to try a jammy dodger

L640[05:25:07] <lunarmom> Yeah, but if I said jam, it would ruin the joke.

L641[05:25:17] <g> they're good

L642[05:25:28] <g> the recipe has changed a lot over the years

L643[05:25:29] <Kodos> I wonder if those are shippable to america

L644[05:25:38] <g> they used to be hard biscuits but they're soft now and much sweeter

L645[05:25:43] * Kodos goes to check American Amazon

L646[05:25:59] <lunarmom> If they are, they'd be expensive.

L647[05:26:15] <lunarmom> If I want Skittles, they're overpriced af

L648[05:26:27] <Forecaster> lunarmom: what's a pizza burger then?

L649[05:26:39] <g> haha, it's exactly what it sounds like

L650[05:26:48] <Kodos> Yeah, 20 bucks for 12-4.9 oz packs

L651[05:26:54] <lunarmom> It's a burger made with tiny pizzas for the bread

L652[05:26:59] <Forecaster> ah

L653[05:27:21] <lunarmom> I like to put banana and peanuts on pizza, along with tunafish and mussels.

L654[05:27:30] * Kodos is self-teaching himself how to use --options

L655[05:27:31] <g> alternatively you can get burgers where like, the "bun" is pizza base and the inside is the pizza filling

L656[05:27:58] <Forecaster> so basically a small baked in pizza

L657[05:28:03] <lunarmom> Whenever I bring it up, people ask if I'm pregnant.

L658[05:28:32] <Kodos> I eat Miracle Whip with Salami, pepperoni, bologna, and green onions mixed in

L659[05:28:38] <Kodos> You don't have to be pregnant to eat weird shit

L660[05:28:47] <lunarmom> I mean, it's not like I put pineapple and shrimp on them xD

L661[05:28:59] <Kodos> I love pineapple and chicken bbq pizza

L662[05:29:01] <lunarmom> That is pretty good, tho owo

L663[05:29:29] <lunarmom> But yeah, I do go by lunarmom, so xD

L664[05:30:43] <g> Kodos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZmqJQ-nc_s

L665[05:30:43] <MichiBot> family guy cool whip | length: 29s | Likes: 1264 Dislikes: 35 Views: 437533 | by Mattilderton

L666[05:30:50] <Kodos> Love that scene

L667[05:31:03] <Kodos> Seth did that on the Graham Norton show once, too

L668[05:31:08] <g> haha

L669[05:31:09] <lunarmom> Cool Hwip.

L670[05:31:36] <lunarmom> Also, Hwil Hweaton.

L671[05:31:36] <Kodos> Wish Vex could've gotten TTS working

L672[05:31:43] <Kodos> Would be hilarious to have my computer say Cool Hwip

L673[05:32:10] <Izaya> gah I have a big hole in my logs from 1PM to 6PM

L674[05:32:12] <Izaya> >.<

L675[05:32:29] <lunarmom> Why? ._.

L676[05:32:40] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lxcajZDFs

L677[05:32:41] <MichiBot> Family Guy- Best Of Cool Whip | length: 2m 3s | Likes: 3529 Dislikes: 322 Views: 1037940 | by Niminem

L678[05:32:43] <g> haha, there's lots of these

L679[05:32:53] <Izaya> changed over domains recently, my stuff was still configured for the old one and I reset my router, and I didn't fix it till I got home

L680[05:33:02] <lunarmom> Oh.

L681[05:33:20] <lunarmom> My keyboard is stupid sometimes.

L682[05:33:30] <lunarmom> Mechanical.

L683[05:34:28] <Kodos> For anyone interested

L684[05:34:28] <Kodos> https://github.com/blog/2144-gpg-signature-verification

L685[05:34:42] <g> yup, enabled it git-wide on my PC earlier

L686[05:34:49] <g> Works really well if you use, eg, keybase.io

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L688[05:35:35] <lunarmom> I hate my body right now; can't even breathe without feeling stabby pains

L689[05:36:12] <Izaya> ooo, GPG

L690[05:36:13] <Kodos> I'm really excited to have figured out how to use -- to make varying parameters for a program

L691[05:36:30] <Kodos> No more having to constantly edit crap

L692[05:37:36] <lunarmom> Varying parameters :3

L693[05:38:43] <lunarmom> I'm trying to figure out how to use the Keypad block in the SecureOS addon

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L695[05:39:20] <Izaya> for some reason that reminded me of that Kraftwerk song about calculators

L696[05:39:44] <Kodos> >SecureOS Addon

L697[05:39:50] <Kodos> I'm sorry, Caitlyn

L698[05:39:52] <lunarmom> Kraftwerk! xD

L699[05:40:27] <Kodos> What issues are you having with the Keypad?

L700[05:40:28] <lunarmom> Who's Caitlyn?

L701[05:40:36] <Kodos> Caitlyn is the author of OpenSecurity

L702[05:40:40] <Kodos> The addon that adds SecureOS, and the keypad

L703[05:40:41] <lunarmom> Oh -w-

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L705[05:41:27] <lunarmom> Well, I need the SecureOS for it, right?

L706[05:41:38] <Kodos> No, I don't think SOS has anything for the keypad yet

L707[05:41:44] <lunarmom> Ah, okay.

L708[05:42:05] <lunarmom> Well, I just don't know how to hook it up.

L709[05:42:26] <Kodos> With a cable, same as any other component

L710[05:44:20] <lunarmom> I guess I need a program to use it for opening a door as well?

L711[05:44:29] <Kodos> Indeed.

L712[05:44:30] <Forecaster> yes

L713[05:44:32] <Kodos> This may help: https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/wiki/Blocks#keypad

L714[05:45:15] <lunarmom> Yeah, I'm looking at that page.

L715[05:45:40] <lunarmom> All it tells me is I need help xD

L716[05:45:53] <lunarmom> I cannae do this on me own.

L717[05:46:08] <Kodos> I don't have any experience with using the keypad (yet), however if you need to look at a program for the magcard reader, I do have one of those

L718[05:46:13] <Forecaster> you need to listen for the events when a keypad key is pressed

L719[05:46:31] <Forecaster> store the order and compare with your code

L720[05:46:43] <Forecaster> if it matches send out a signal to open whatever door you want

L721[05:46:59] <lunarmom> If not, trigger the alarm speaker.

L722[05:47:07] <Forecaster> if you want

L723[05:47:08] <Forecaster> :P

L724[05:47:09] <lunarmom> xD

L725[05:47:19] <lunarmom> And a lava pit in the floor.

L726[05:47:20] <Forecaster> maybe after x failed attempts or something

L727[05:47:31] <Kodos> You could just lock the room they're in down, and instead play Rick Astley for hours

L728[05:47:31] <Forecaster> and lava after y failed attempts :P

L729[05:47:56] <lunarmom> I've got a basic piston door.

L730[05:48:06] <Forecaster> redstone then

L731[05:48:24] <lunarmom> And a bookcase with a redstone book.

L732[05:48:30] <lunarmom> Bibliocraft xD

L733[05:48:54] <lunarmom> Door opens when I take the book out.

L734[05:49:28] <lunarmom> I was thinking of changing it so that the book triggers the reveal of the keypad.

L735[05:49:31] <Elizabeth> Beep

L736[05:49:43] <Kodos> I always keep the book in the first shelf slot (Zero strength), and move it to another slot when I need the door open

L737[05:49:45] <lunarmom> Then use the keypad for the hidden door.

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L739[05:50:12] <lunarmom> Yeah, that's good.

L740[05:51:30] <Forecaster> sigh, I want a way to measure fluid flow without choking it

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L742[05:52:50] <Kodos> Not sure, I've always used pressure pipes for my fluid movement

L743[05:53:01] <Forecaster> I use BC pipes

L744[05:53:14] <Forecaster> hm, keypad is placed facing away from you for some reason

L745[05:53:18] <Kodos> There's an open ticket for computer controlled energy/fluid sensor/valves

L746[05:53:21] <lunarmom> I always use TE pipes.

L747[05:53:26] <Kodos> Forecaster, don't sneak

L748[05:53:29] <lunarmom> xD

L749[05:53:39] <lunarmom> *don't snek

L750[05:53:40] <Forecaster> I was clicking a screen...

L751[05:53:41] <Forecaster> I had to

L752[05:53:53] <Kodos> Ah, well sneaking will place it reverse

L753[05:53:54] <Kodos> d

L754[05:54:02] <Forecaster> yeah I figured that

L755[05:57:41] <lunarmom> I'll be back later.

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L759[06:04:02] <Kodos> I really need to do that nanomachines program idea I had

L760[06:04:05] <Kodos> But... networking

L761[06:07:01] <Forecaster> what would it do?

L762[06:08:22] <Kodos> Check each input quickly, and print out a list of all effects of your current nanomachine configuration

L763[06:08:53] <Kodos> With an optional check for a chat upgrade to tell you to stand still whlie it does it

L764[06:15:27] <snowden89> Kodos: no not snake

L765[06:15:32] <snowden89> python uses it as well

L766[06:15:44] <snowden89> its a basic programming tool for education

L767[06:15:46] <Kodos> Woo, night vision nanos

L768[06:16:06] <snowden89> you program a pen, to move left right up down, pen up or down

L769[06:16:19] <snowden89> to stop or start leaving a line behind it

L770[06:16:21] <snowden89> etc

L771[06:16:34] <Kodos> Sounds like something my brother would have me play as a kid

L772[06:16:35] <Elizabeth> "press any button to play" says this thing in the science museum that does fuck all when you press said button

L773[06:16:47] <snowden89> second, encryption everytime i try and ask about it i get told dont reinvent the wheel it wont be safe

L774[06:16:56] <snowden89> just use e.g library

L775[06:17:11] <Kodos> When someone tells you not to do it

L776[06:17:15] <Kodos> Tell them, Fine i'll go use ROT13

L777[06:17:29] <snowden89> but so far i have come to learn anything that is two way encryption

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L779[06:17:35] <snowden89> is not safe enough

L780[06:17:50] <g> Everything has some kind of weakness

L781[06:17:59] <g> You have to use something that is appropriate for your situation

L782[06:18:57] <snowden89> basically if its possible to recover the item

L783[06:18:59] <snowden89> at the end

L784[06:19:02] <Forecaster> Elizabeth: https://youtu.be/a2jblKk-Gt8

L785[06:19:02] <MichiBot> Modded Minecraft [Episode 134] - Into The Pit | length: 35m 31s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 View: 1 | by Forecaster

L786[06:19:06] <Forecaster> :3

L787[06:19:07] <snowden89> then the encryption will break eventually

L788[06:19:20] <Elizabeth> Forecaster: ooh, will look in a bit

L789[06:19:24] <g> snowden89, I don't follow

L790[06:19:25] <Kodos> My solution will be a program that stores two values in two files. A username, and a password. Usernames will be plaintext, and passwords will be hashed and have the hashes stored

L791[06:19:42] <Kodos> Then just store the lines of each file into two tables

L792[06:19:49] <snowden89> as in string goes in gets hashed gets salted

L793[06:19:52] <Kodos> And compare the hashes against each entry in the table and the username

L794[06:20:26] <snowden89> then you use the outputted salt+hash for comparing the password

L795[06:20:27] <snowden89> to

L796[06:20:41] <snowden89> so customer at login for example enters original password and username

L797[06:20:49] <snowden89> it encrypts output is compared

L798[06:20:53] <snowden89> to database

L799[06:25:30] <Kodos> Okay, that was a pretty terrible round of nano

L800[06:33:43] <Forecaster> here's for lunarmom when they return: http://pastebin.com/24Pv7vfs

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L802[06:38:11] <g> Forecaster: %tell ?

L803[06:38:25] <Kodos> Are you open to suggestions?

L804[06:38:32] <Kodos> Also, fuck me the rendering issue is back =(

L805[06:38:43] <Forecaster> g: oh yeah

L806[06:38:47] <Forecaster> Kodos: sure

L807[06:39:37] <Kodos> You shoudl utilize the * and # buttons, maybe even have them change to C and E

L808[06:39:44] <Kodos> for clearing your input and confirming it

L809[06:39:55] <Forecaster> * already clears it

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L811[06:40:19] <Forecaster> I made it simple and "autoconfirm" when the correct length is reached

L812[06:40:21] <lunarmom> Back :D

L813[06:40:32] <Forecaster> lunarmom: http://pastebin.com/24Pv7vfs

L814[06:40:33] <lunarmom> I now have a 2x3 screen.

L815[06:40:35] <Forecaster> here you go

L816[06:40:43] <Forecaster> here's a keypad program to look at

L817[06:40:48] <Forecaster> that I just wrote

L818[06:41:02] <Forecaster> (I started just before you left)

L819[06:41:22] <Forecaster> Kodos: I know that is less secure, but I doubt it matters that much :P

L820[06:41:24] <Kodos> Which MC Code is green :x

L821[06:41:40] <Kodos> %g Minecraft Formatting Codes

L822[06:41:40] <lunarmom> Niiice

L823[06:41:42] <MichiBot> Kodos: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Formatting_codes - Formatting codes – Minecraft Wiki: "Mar 29, 2016 ... Text in Minecraft can be formatted with the section sign ( § ). ... If a color code is

L824[06:41:47] <Forecaster> regular green? 13

L825[06:42:09] <Forecaster> oh, those ones, not sure

L826[06:42:21] <lunarmom> Is it working?

L827[06:42:29] <Forecaster> of course

L828[06:42:36] <lunarmom> I'll give it a try then :3

L829[06:42:40] <Forecaster> mind you it doesn't do anything, the computer just beeps at you

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L831[06:45:20] <Kodos> made some adjustments =)

L832[06:45:29] <Kodos> Now it uses green for "ACCEPTED" and red for "WRONG"

L833[06:45:38] <Kodos> With resets back to white after it fades

L834[06:45:54] <Kodos> Would you mind if I used this as a basis for a security door program?

L835[06:46:02] <Forecaster> go ahead

L836[06:46:21] <Kodos> Thanks =)

L837[06:46:39] <Kodos> brb

L838[06:47:56] <Forecaster> the wiki doesn't have the "private" security door

L839[06:48:02] <Forecaster> I wonder what's different about that one

L840[06:48:26] <Forecaster> oh, it doesn't have a recipe

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L842[06:49:09] <lunarmom> Yeap, it works

L843[06:49:19] <Caitlyn> the private door just doesn't have a window

L844[06:49:34] <Forecaster> oh, of course

L845[06:50:16] <lunarmom> The keypad is really nice.

L846[06:50:28] <Forecaster> it is

L847[06:50:47] <lunarmom> Guess I'll need another computer to manage my doors.

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L849[06:51:23] <Caitlyn> The recipe for the regular doors will be different in the next release, and Private doors will have a recipe

L850[06:51:40] <Forecaster> ah

L851[06:51:51] <lunarmom> Nice

L852[06:52:00] <lunarmom> Looking forward to that.

L853[06:52:06] <Forecaster> I kinda wish there was a door that you could just lock/unlock, instead of open/close

L854[06:52:22] <lunarmom> Yeah :o

L855[06:52:25] <Caitlyn> Top center slot is a glass pane for the regular door, and obsidian for the private

L856[06:52:57] <lunarmom> What about a vault door?

L857[06:53:10] <lunarmom> Like a bank vault?

L858[06:56:48] <Forecaster> maybe you should also add a wall block that's also indestructible?

L859[06:57:12] <Forecaster> not very useful to have an indestructible door if you can just dig around it :P

L860[06:57:49] <Caitlyn> The issue with that is, it requires a tile entity... and a WALL of TEs would be bad.

L861[06:58:01] <Forecaster> ah, yeah it would

L862[06:58:02] <lunarmom> True that.

L863[06:58:10] <Caitlyn> Because otherwise I have no way to store the owner for YOU to be able to break it

L864[06:58:17] <lunarmom> Especially if you want to be able to move them.

L865[06:58:31] <Forecaster> maybe something similar to the Pneumaticcraft security station that protects an area around it?

L866[06:58:47] <lunarmom> There's an idea.

L867[06:59:17] <Forecaster> I mean, I already have that, but those who don't have PC wont

L868[07:01:21] <lunarmom> Is there a mod that adds huge bank-vault/fallout shelter style doors?

L869[07:01:43] <snowden89> umm no but they are easy enough to make something similar

L870[07:01:56] <snowden89> using Tcon drawbridges

L871[07:01:59] <lunarmom> I think I've seen something like it, but that one was yooooge

L872[07:02:10] <Elizabeth> vifino: lets move

L873[07:02:19] <lunarmom> Like that one door in Portal 2.

L874[07:02:22] <snowden89> or redstone, and funky locomotive

L875[07:02:33] <Forecaster> locomotion

L876[07:02:48] <snowden89> to use sticky pistons to move the big cog seen in fallout 4 style door

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L878[07:03:38] <lunarmom> Any Fallout door, really xD

L879[07:03:59] <lunarmom> But yeah, I'm slightly more interested in a bank vault door.

L880[07:04:00] <snowden89> I like to use a row of sticky pistons

L881[07:04:09] <snowden89> two layers deep

L882[07:04:24] <snowden89> one pushing technical chisal blocks from left to right

L883[07:04:30] <lunarmom> I'd like one that is a multiblock structure.

L884[07:04:32] <snowden89> and nother pushing up and down

L885[07:04:42] <snowden89> with a delay so first door opens

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L887[07:04:47] <snowden89> second door opens

L888[07:05:00] <snowden89> using a computer to send redsignal to both layers

L889[07:05:57] <snowden89> its my plan if i ever get ingame to work on my evil lair

L890[07:06:35] <lunarmom> >:3

L891[07:06:48] <lunarmom> You ever played Evil Genius?

L892[07:07:14] <Forecaster> oh yes

L893[07:07:33] <lunarmom> :D

L894[07:07:42] <lunarmom> I played the shit out of that years ago.

L895[07:08:01] <Forecaster> I bought it on GOG.com

L896[07:08:55] <lunarmom> I have an original disc xD

L897[07:09:18] <Forecaster> I used to have one

L898[07:09:23] <lunarmom> Ah, riddled with bugs, but it was fun.

L899[07:09:49] <lunarmom> Would've been nice to see a remake.

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L941[07:10:02] <^v> Oh noes! chaos split 3:

L942[07:10:04] <Forecaster> yeah

L943[07:10:10] <lunarmom> .-.

L944[07:10:14] <lunarmom> what just happen?

L945[07:10:19] <Caitlyn> Netsplit

L946[07:10:23] <lunarmom> Ouch

L947[07:10:27] <Caitlyn> One of the servers on the network split from the others

L948[07:10:38] <lunarmom> >n<

L949[07:10:52] <lunarmom> if only it had been a banana split

L950[07:11:28] <Forecaster> I updated the keypad program to work with mag cards as well

L951[07:11:35] <lunarmom> Nice :D

L952[07:11:45] <Forecaster> now it will check any swiped cards for the code stored in the program

L953[07:12:21] <lunarmom> I'm thinking about if there is a good way to implement biometric readers, or if that would just be superfluous.

L954[07:12:45] <Forecaster> a screen is pretty much a biometric reader :P

L955[07:12:59] <lunarmom> xD

L956[07:13:01] <lunarmom> Yea

L957[07:13:09] <Caitlyn> biometric readers are planned for OpenSec

L958[07:13:18] <lunarmom> What kind?

L959[07:13:29] <lunarmom> Print, retinal?

L960[07:13:40] <Forecaster> because they tell you *who* clicked the screen, or pressed the button

L961[07:13:41] <Forecaster> :P

L962[07:14:48] <lunarmom> I've been thinking about a mod to bypass security measures.

L963[07:15:26] <Caitlyn> Currently mag readers tell you who swipped... that's changing soon

L964[07:15:32] <Caitlyn> Well, it's becoming a config option

L965[07:15:33] <lunarmom> That could be interesting on a server with a lot of stuff like that.

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L967[07:20:59] <Forecaster> yeah, letting the computer know who swiped the card seems odd :P

L968[07:21:09] <Caitlyn> Yeah, it bugs me..

L969[07:21:30] <Forecaster> I'm guessing that's standard event behaviour

L970[07:21:40] <Forecaster> since screens do it too

L971[07:22:07] <Caitlyn> No, it was just a stupid design decision when I added them

L972[07:22:36] <Forecaster> well, it's kind of the standard, since a lot of the OC events do it :P

L973[07:22:57] <Caitlyn> Meh..

L974[07:23:09] <Forecaster> but yeah

L975[07:23:10] <Caitlyn> Anyway just added the config entry for it, if false it returns "player"

L976[07:23:15] <Forecaster> I don't think it should be a config option

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L1020[07:23:28] <Caitlyn> Kodos would be mad at me if it wasn't :P

L1021[07:23:30] <g> ..finally

L1022[07:23:38] <g> As I was saying, evil genius was good

L1023[07:23:43] <g> As was dungeon keeper

L1024[07:23:44] <g> (And they were fairly similar)

L1025[07:24:09] <Forecaster> make it default to false though?

L1026[07:24:20] <g> the difference is that dungeon keeper is getting modern spiritual sequels

L1027[07:24:21] <g> :P

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L1029[07:24:44] <Forecaster> I like EG more

L1030[07:24:50] <g> (dwelvers, war for the overworld)

L1031[07:25:15] <Forecaster> don't forget dungeon keeper for mobile :D

L1032[07:26:36] <g> that was a terrible EA moneypot :P

L1033[07:26:50] <g> but EA haven't made any "real" dungeon keeper games

L1034[07:26:57] <g> the originals were by Bullfrog and the others are indie

L1035[07:26:58] <Forecaster> no kidding

L1036[07:27:22] <g> (Bullfrog also had stuff like theme hospital and theme park world)

L1037[07:30:03] <g> dwelvers is the most interesting-looking "spiritual sequel" I think

L1038[07:30:09] <g> WFtO is done, and is really good, but

L1039[07:30:29] <g> dwelvers is in early access right now, and lets you dig down or build up, has a surface, and has a lot of resource management

L1040[07:31:12] <Forecaster> I don't think I've seen that

L1041[07:32:26] <Techokami> man, what is it with this kid that keeps requesting things that already exist/don't fit in the mod's scope

L1042[07:32:51] <Forecaster> insolent children

L1043[07:33:42] <Techokami> my email inbox is being flooded with requests to add cameras to Computronics (uh, what?) and other such things

L1044[07:35:18] <g> securitycraft has that

L1045[07:35:19] <g> lol

L1046[07:35:23] <g> just direct him there

L1047[07:35:36] <bauen1> Can setsunafseiei be baltazarknowiz new account?

L1048[07:38:30] <Elizabeth> Techokami: I know :/

L1049[07:40:31] <Skye> So there

L1050[07:40:43] <Skye> 's someone more annoying than Soni? O_O

L1051[07:40:53] <Forecaster> apparently

L1052[07:41:11] <Elizabeth> Skye: yup

L1053[07:41:15] <meep> who knows? it might be soni

L1054[07:41:23] <meep> or soni's friend

L1055[07:41:36] <Caitlyn> No, Soni at least is semi coherent

L1056[07:41:39] <Caitlyn> :P

L1057[07:41:40] <Skye> ^

L1058[07:41:40] <Caitlyn> friend maybe

L1059[07:41:42] <Caitlyn> Soni, no.

L1060[07:41:57] <Elizabeth> Also Caitlyn watch out, they may be coming for open security next

L1061[07:42:10] <Caitlyn> That's ok, I have no issue with blocking them

L1062[07:42:13] <meep> ohshitruuuuun.gif

L1063[07:42:25] <Elizabeth> Blame Forecaster

L1064[07:42:32] * Forecaster hides

L1065[07:42:33] <bauen1> setsunafseiei is apparently a charachter from some kind of anime

L1066[07:42:43] * Caitlyn glares at Forecaster

L1067[07:44:12] <Saphire> New phone!

L1068[07:44:32] <Elizabeth> ?

L1069[07:45:53] * Skye phones everyone

L1070[07:46:20] * Elizabeth wonders why her phone is ringing

L1071[07:46:24] * meep looks at the caller and lets it ring

L1072[07:46:41] * bauen1 doesn't answers

L1073[07:46:59] <Skye> oops

L1074[07:47:09] * Caitlyn sends the phone spiders

L1075[07:47:19] * Skye stops the call after realising what happened

L1076[07:47:34] * bauen1 calls Skye back

L1077[07:47:49] * Skye pretends to not exist

L1078[07:48:10] * bauen1 calls Skye again

L1079[07:48:31] * meep sends a SMS to Skye with the content "I didn't do it. For further inqueries, talk to my lawyer."

L1080[07:49:05] * Skye pretends to not exist but appears to be failing

L1081[07:50:47] * bauen1 goes up to Skye, answering the call for him

L1082[07:51:03] <Skye> echoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

L1083[07:51:52] * Elizabeth covers her ears

L1084[07:52:01] * bauen1 runs away

L1085[07:52:30] * meep grabs bauen1's and Skye's phone and kicks them both away

L1086[07:52:52] * Skye sets the phone on fire in a fume cupboard

L1087[07:52:56] <Skye> wsitwoop

L1088[07:53:03] <Skye> uhoh

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L1090[07:55:14] * bauen1 gets a new phone

L1091[07:55:19] * bauen1 calls meep

L1092[07:56:26] <bauen1> oh wait he made 2 new posts

L1093[07:56:30] <bauen1> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1756#issuecomment-206357233

L1094[07:56:46] <bauen1> maybe he wont go to OpenSecurity after all

L1095[07:57:11] <Forecaster> apparently it "lacks CCTV" which is important somehow?

L1096[07:58:32] <Caitlyn> yay..

L1097[07:58:52] <g> the CCTV in securitycraft is less than ideal anyway

L1098[07:59:04] <g> it requires another addon to display it on any surfaces, and it only supports certain graphics cards

L1099[07:59:10] <Forecaster> I don't know what it does

L1100[07:59:17] <g> it's basically what it looks like

L1101[07:59:20] <Forecaster> there's no block or item descriptions on the post

L1102[07:59:20] <Caitlyn> Yeah, it uses LookingGlass

L1103[07:59:21] <g> you put a camera up somewhere

L1104[07:59:23] <g> link it to a screen

L1105[07:59:32] <Forecaster> it just refers to the in-game manual

L1106[07:59:35] <g> and then you can right-click with the screen to move your viewport to the camera

L1107[07:59:36] <Forecaster> I hate when they do that

L1108[07:59:46] <g> or you can put the screen in a block frame and have it display on a wall or something

L1109[07:59:52] <g> assuming you have LookingGlass

L1110[08:00:13] <Forecaster> that doesn't sound useful for OC at all

L1111[08:00:20] <g> Yeah, it's not

L1112[08:00:31] <g> The only thing it'd be handy for is the fact that the screens have channels

L1113[08:00:35] <g> I think you have up to 10 channels

L1114[08:00:40] <g> he probably wants to switch it with OC

L1115[08:01:06] <g> but that's such a tiny api with barely any use, SC should support OC for that

L1116[08:01:19] <Forecaster> I wouldn't be surprised if he expected to be able to watch the cameras on an OC screen

L1117[08:01:26] <bauen1> ^

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L1119[08:01:55] <bauen1> he only joined yesterday

L1120[08:02:07] <g> Caitlyn, you have access to management on github right?

L1121[08:02:10] <bauen1> and already managed to make 6 issues -.-

L1122[08:02:28] <bauen1> and 3 already got closed

L1123[08:02:51]

<Mimiru> no

L1124[08:02:58] <g> ah, okay

L1125[08:03:04] <g> It'd be good to close this one really

L1126[08:04:27] <bauen1> g he will just open another one

L1127[08:05:04] <Izaya> Xabber or Conversations?

L1128[08:05:19] <g> that is an awful lot of tickets

L1129[08:05:31] <g> bauen1, honestly it looks like it'd be safe to report to github for spam at this point

L1130[08:05:45] <bauen1> yeah

L1131[08:05:53] * meep sees he gets a call from bauen1 and ignores it

L1132[08:06:11] * bauen1 calls meep and pretends to be Skye

L1133[08:06:46] <Elizabeth> Lol, he rage closed the issue

L1134[08:06:48] <g> did you click the link on his profile?

L1135[08:06:50] <g> lol, he did

L1136[08:06:55] <Forecaster> xD

L1137[08:07:03] <bauen1> oh no

L1138[08:07:05] <Skye> bauen1, no-one can fake my voice

L1139[08:07:11] * meep still ignores his phone

L1140[08:07:12] * bauen1 can

L1141[08:07:19] <Skye> no

L1142[08:07:30] <Skye> my voice is unique, and also ear shattering

L1143[08:07:33] * bauen1 but fails at faking Skeys voice

L1144[08:07:43] <Izaya> don't remind me

L1145[08:07:46] <Skye> I think people would kill you if you faked my voice

L1146[08:07:50] <g> I feel like leaving a hooray reaction on one of those

L1147[08:07:53] <g> :v

L1148[08:07:56] * Elizabeth can confirm Skye's voice hurts

L1149[08:08:04] <meep> bauen1: You'd have to fake being Elizabeth, KittyKath or my mom to get me to pick up.

L1150[08:08:15] <meep> Which isn't happening.

L1151[08:08:48] <Skye> that would get you killed by the person who you fake

L1152[08:09:06] <meep> Wooohooooo, Elizabeth is taking me to the london eye :D :D :D

L1153[08:09:22] <Elizabeth> Providing I can find a route

L1154[08:09:35] <Skye> the london eye is fun

L1155[08:09:36] * bauen1 calls meep pretending to be trump

L1156[08:09:42] <g> bauen1, btw, where are his securitycraft issues? I don't know where the repo is and he has nothing on his profile

L1157[08:09:46] <Izaya> vifino x Elizabeth best

L1158[08:09:50] <Skye> bauen1, okay you're definitely gonna die

L1159[08:09:50] <meep> yes

L1160[08:09:54] <Elizabeth> Yup

L1161[08:09:56] <bauen1> lol

L1162[08:10:30] <Forecaster> g: the only tickets he's made are for oc and computronics

L1163[08:10:35] <bauen1> he hasnt made any issues on securitycraft so far i think

L1164[08:10:42] * meep locates the place bauen1 is calling from, comes up to him and snaps his neck

L1165[08:10:44] <g> ah, okay

L1166[08:10:56] <bauen1> oh no

L1167[08:11:02] <Izaya> Oh snap

L1168[08:11:03] <Elizabeth> Well that escalated quickly

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L1170[08:11:32] <Skye> Elizabeth, "Well that escalated quickly" -- #oc

L1171[08:13:18] <Inari> "Well that climaxed quickly" -- #oc +ina

L1172[08:13:28] <Skye> THIS IS MADNESS

L1173[08:13:32] <Skye> ...

L1174[08:13:36] <Skye> EnderBot2?

L1175[08:13:36] <Inari> lol

L1176[08:13:50] <Inari> i dunno what the heck you do with your bots

L1177[08:13:54] <Inari> but they dont seem very stable

L1178[08:14:00] <Skye> Elizabeth, it broke? D:

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L1181[08:16:59] <Elizabeth> This is madness!

L1182[08:16:59] *** EnderBot2 is now known as Leonidas

L1183[08:17:00] <Leonidas> Madness....?

L1184[08:17:00] <Leonidas> THIS.

L1185[08:17:01] <Leonidas> IS.

L1186[08:17:02] <Leonidas> #oc!!

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L1188[08:17:03] <EnderBot2> Seriously, what did you think this was?

L1189[08:17:19] <Skye> yey

L1190[08:17:23] <bauen1> Wait, how does karma work?

L1191[08:17:30] <Skye> bauen1--

L1192[08:17:32] <g> bauen1++

L1193[08:17:42] <bauen1> ok

L1194[08:17:57] <Caitlyn> %+200 bauen1

L1195[08:17:59] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: bauen1 now has 200 points

L1196[08:18:02] <Caitlyn> :P

L1197[08:18:03] <g> :V

L1198[08:18:05] <bauen1> lol

L1199[08:18:17] <Skye> It worked differently on a different channel

L1200[08:18:20] <Caitlyn> %+1 g

L1201[08:18:20] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: g now has 1 points

L1202[08:18:28] <g> :o

L1203[08:18:28] <Skye> %-1 Skye

L1204[08:18:32] <Caitlyn> Yes, well MichiBot isn't your average bot.

L1205[08:18:39] <Skye> duh

L1206[08:18:43] <Caitlyn> Also, no negative :P

L1207[08:18:46] <Caitlyn> yet anyway

L1208[08:18:51] <Skye> wait whazt

L1209[08:19:09] <Inari> <nick>++ is a much better system though

L1210[08:19:13] <Skye> oh now I can't tup[wt

L1211[08:19:15] <Skye> I camn

L1212[08:19:17] <Skye> t type

L1213[08:19:19] <Skye> >_<

L1214[08:19:21] <Skye> halp

L1215[08:19:22] <Caitlyn> If you want to remove points, you have to overflow :P

L1216[08:19:22] <Inari> theres negative

L1217[08:19:26] <Inari> yeah that

L1218[08:19:27] <Inari> :p

L1219[08:19:35] <Caitlyn> Inari, write the regex and nick checking for me, and I'll add nick++

L1220[08:19:44] <Inari> whats it written in :P

L1221[08:19:48] <Caitlyn> Java.

L1222[08:20:04] <Caitlyn> %commands

L1223[08:20:07] <g> nick checking?

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L1225[08:20:09] <Caitlyn> %source

L1226[08:20:09] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/

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L1228[08:20:30] <Caitlyn> g, code that checks if <nick> is actually a nick in the channel, it's not hard, I'm just lazy

L1229[08:20:38] <g> in ultros that'd be like

L1230[08:20:40] <Inari> how do i like

L1231[08:20:45] <Inari> use registers in C

L1232[08:20:50] <g> user in channel.users

L1233[08:21:03] <Caitlyn> "it's not hard, I'm just lazy"

L1234[08:21:15] <Skye> Caitlyn, https://github.com/maxpowa/inumuta-modules/blob/master/karma.py

L1235[08:21:18] <g> I'm waiting for your equivalent java one-liner

L1236[08:21:18] <g> :P

L1237[08:21:29] <Caitlyn> L.A.Z.Y

L1238[08:21:54] <g> oh dear, another bot with a non-class-based api

L1239[08:22:07] <Skye> Lazy A?? ZzZ Y?

L1240[08:22:08] <g> goddamnit people, classes are kinda useful yknow?

L1241[08:22:09] <g> lol

L1242[08:22:31] <Skye> now I want to learn Lisp and write a bot in Lisp to troll g

L1243[08:22:39] <g> I wrote a bot in clojure before

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L1245[08:22:46] <g> lol

L1246[08:22:52] <Skye> Lisp

L1247[08:22:53] <g> and Ultros supports a lisp called Hy anyway

L1248[08:22:59] <Skye> not Clojure

L1249[08:23:02] <Skye> no classes

L1250[08:23:03] <Skye> :P

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L1252[08:23:11] <Skye> or maybe Erlang

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L1254[08:23:47] <g> people using an OO language and not using objects are kind of missing the point

L1255[08:24:03] <Caitlyn> Also, g

L1256[08:24:04] <Caitlyn> event.getChannel().getUsers().contains(recipient)

L1257[08:24:18] <g> well that's better than I was afraid of

L1258[08:24:20] <g> :P

L1259[08:24:44] <g> I can't read java closures, was afraid you'd do some silly magic with them

L1260[08:24:52] <Inari> g: channel.users.get(nick)

L1261[08:24:55] <g> (lambdas my ass)

L1262[08:25:04] <g> Inari, that doesn't return a boolean

L1263[08:25:14] <Inari> im not sure what you need a boolean for

L1264[08:25:15] <g> (does it?)

L1265[08:25:21] <g> we're checking whether they're in the channel

L1266[08:25:26] <g> you'd have to have another line there

L1267[08:25:31] <Inari> i thougth we're trying to get them by name :P

L1268[08:25:38] <Caitlyn> We have their name :P

L1269[08:25:46] <g> with ultros, we already have the user object

L1270[08:25:47] <g> :P

L1271[08:26:01] <g> if not, it'd be protocol.get_user(nick)

L1272[08:26:03] <g> but anyway

L1273[08:26:03] <Inari> message.mentions[0]

L1274[08:26:15] <g> mentions? interesting idea

L1275[08:26:15] <Inari> there, java oneliner

L1276[08:26:19] <Inari> provided you have the rihgt library

L1277[08:26:22] <Inari> which ultros basically is

L1278[08:26:28] <Caitlyn> getUsers() returns a ImmutableSortedSet

L1279[08:26:30] <g> yeah ultros is basically a framework

L1280[08:26:30] <g> lol

L1281[08:26:44] <Inari> im not sure what we're trying to do even :P

L1282[08:26:52] <Inari> like why woudl you have the usero bject of a mentioned user

L1283[08:26:58] <Inari> that makes no sense

L1284[08:27:08] <g> oh right, I misread

L1285[08:27:19] <g> yeah you'd have the user object of the person that sent the message

L1286[08:27:26] <g> not the people mentioned

L1287[08:27:30] <Inari> jesus christ ocmpiler

L1288[08:27:31] <g> although that's a neat idea, I might actually do that

L1289[08:27:33] <Inari> just like

L1290[08:27:35] <Inari> do the thingy

L1291[08:27:46] <Inari> why are you trying to clutter stupid stuff in there

L1292[08:27:46] <Inari> :<

L1293[08:27:51] <g> (it'd be lazy though ofc)

L1294[08:28:12] <Caitlyn> Right I was going to switch from Long to BigInt

L1295[08:28:26] <g> alright, so.. does OC have AE integration built in or am I getting this from computronics?

L1296[08:28:41] <Inari> think it has osme integration

L1297[08:29:42] <Caitlyn> anyway

L1298[08:29:45] <g> ah, it's in scala

L1299[08:29:46] <Caitlyn> off to work

L1300[08:29:49] <g> welp, guess I won't be reading this

L1301[08:29:52] <Inari> g: werent you all into C

L1302[08:30:01] <g> C? not a fan, no

L1303[08:30:08] <Inari> hmm who was then

L1304[08:30:23] <g> Not a clue

L1305[08:30:46] <g> Wasn't me anyway, the only time I advocate for C is when something is too slow in python :v

L1306[08:31:23] <g> jesus christ, I cannot read that scala for shit

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L1308[08:31:58] <g> ..huh

L1309[08:32:02] <g> getCpus, not getCPUs?

L1310[08:32:07] <g> wut

L1311[08:32:12] <Elizabeth> Go

L1312[08:32:15] <Elizabeth> away wing

L1313[08:32:20] <Elizabeth> Phone fuck ofd

L1314[08:32:33] <meep> Inari: You should've seen Elizabeth las-- nevermind.

L1315[08:32:37] * meep hides

L1316[08:32:43] <Inari> lol

L1317[08:32:48] <g> that would probably not have been safe for this channel's eyes

L1318[08:32:50] <g> :P

L1319[08:33:02] <Inari> whos meep :x

L1320[08:33:06] <g> vifino

L1321[08:33:27] <meep> onifiv in disguise

L1322[08:33:40] <meep> but shhh, don't tell vifino

L1323[08:34:13] <g> buh, okay

L1324[08:34:25] <g> so I can only set an export bus' configuration, and make it execute that configuration once

L1325[08:34:31] <g> but I can't just make it export directly

L1326[08:35:01] <g> and the api for setting the config is a little.. unwieldy

L1327[08:35:36] <g> and I don't understand the "export bus pointing in the specified direction" - export buses can only point in one direction at once anyway

L1328[08:36:33] <g> oh okay

L1329[08:36:37] <g> yeah this isn't suitable _at all_

L1330[08:36:49] <g> it can only get its configuration from a database component anyway

L1331[08:37:16] <Forecaster> I'm probably gonna add OpenSecurity to my modpack :3

L1332[08:38:24] <g> yeah I can't think of any way I can use this

L1333[08:38:25] <g> hmm

L1334[08:38:42] <Forecaster> what are you trying to do?

L1335[08:38:42] <Izaya> ... Huh, Conversations is $3.09 on Google Play.

L1336[08:38:46] <Izaya> Weird.

L1337[08:38:59] <Forecaster> what is that?

L1338[08:39:00] <g> alright, I guess I'll explain what I'm up to, maybe one of you will have some idea

L1339[08:39:09] <Inari> meep: hope she had some pretty shibari on

L1340[08:39:09] <Inari> :p

L1341[08:39:31] <g> basically I'm trying to set up a railcraft system, between multiple buildings. the storage is in one building, and it's an AE network only

L1342[08:39:50] <g> I'd like to be able to request items from that AE network to be sent to the building I'm in via railcraft using OC, which.. doesn't sound that unreasonable

L1343[08:40:25] <g> I can think of a way to do that using export buses, but the OC API for export buses appears to require a database component containing the items that should be exported by the export bus

L1344[08:40:38] <Forecaster> hm

L1345[08:40:45] <g> which isn't really feasible given that I might not have those items on hand, and a database is _way_ smaller than the contents of the AE network

L1346[08:40:49] <Forecaster> I've never used AE with OC

L1347[08:41:06] <Forecaster> how do you intend to request the item?

L1348[08:41:22] <Forecaster> a terminal connected to the storage somehow I'd assume?

L1349[08:41:30] <g> well, I was hoping to use OC to make an export bus on the ME network export items to a railcraft loader

L1350[08:41:35] <g> and then send a cart along using redstone

L1351[08:41:45] <Forecaster> no no

L1352[08:41:53] <Forecaster> I mean, how is the item requested at the destination?

L1353[08:42:01] <Forecaster> ie how does it know what to send where?

L1354[08:42:05] <g> from an OC computer

L1355[08:42:08] <g> I'd write a script

L1356[08:42:19] <g> hopefully allowing the user to input the name or partial name of an item there and how many they want

L1357[08:42:25] * Forecaster goes to add AE to his testing instance

L1358[08:42:28] <g> repeatedly

L1359[08:42:33] <g> and then send the cart along when they've done that

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L1361[08:43:08] <g> it'd use some kind of networking obviously, probably wireless

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L1363[08:44:03] <g> AE uses an awful lot of power btw, you probably don't want it in your main modpack unless you can support it

L1364[08:44:18] <Izaya> ~w modem

L1365[08:44:18] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem

L1366[08:44:28] <Forecaster> "testing instance"

L1367[08:44:52] <bauen1> power in tearms of RF or cpu usage

L1368[08:45:10] <g> RF

L1369[08:45:14] <g> or kAE/tAE in this case

L1370[08:45:17] <g> but it takes RF

L1371[08:45:23] <Forecaster> and EU

L1372[08:45:26] <Izaya> you can have a max of 16 open ports, right?

L1373[08:45:35] <g> the function prototype: setExportConfiguration = function(side:number[, slot:number][, database:address, entry:number):boolean -- Configure the export bus pointing in the specified direction to export item stacks matching the specified descriptor.

L1374[08:45:40] <g> Izaya, huh?

L1375[08:45:53] <Izaya> on a modem

L1376[08:45:59] <g> ah

L1377[08:46:01] <g> no idea

L1378[08:46:06] <g> thought you were talking about AE

L1379[08:46:16] <Forecaster> so, do you need some sort of registry of all the items that is used to request them? or can it be a freetext type thing?

L1380[08:46:33] <g> I would like it to be freetext. But the API seems to require a database component

L1381[08:46:43] <g> to use those, you right-click in the air with one and put some items in it

L1382[08:46:47] <g> and then you put it inside an adapter

L1383[08:47:00] <g> and those items in the database are available via the api

L1384[08:47:34] <g> then it looks like you'd supply the address of the database component here, and the slot of the item in it that you want

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L1386[08:47:58] <g> that also probably means that you'd need to have the database connected to whatever computer is connected to AE, which.. also wouldn't be the case in my setup

L1387[08:48:55] <Kodos> What did I miss

L1388[08:48:57] <g> the problem is that Sangar and the other OC contributors have heavily gone down the path of "immersion" which means that a lot of the APIs are incredibly lacking, but.. maybe there's a way around this one

L1389[08:48:58] <g> Hi Kodos

L1390[08:49:02] <Kodos> Accidentally fell asleep on mom's couch

L1391[08:49:06] <g> :P

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L1393[08:49:44] <g> actually, Kodos, you're voice, maybe you'd have some ideas on this

L1394[08:49:55] <fingercomp> OpenPeripheral-Integration adds a driver for ME interface (component.me_interface). One of this component's function is `exportItem()`

L1395[08:50:13] <g> fingercomp, trying to avoid using that for now, but I'll use it if it's my only option

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L1397[08:50:30] <Forecaster> why?

L1398[08:50:42] <g> a lot of people consider it cheating in here

L1399[08:50:47] <Forecaster> Kodos: I updated the keypad program to allow looking for the code in swiped mag-cards

L1400[08:51:22] <Kodos> Will poke you for the link later, I'm going to bed soonish

L1401[08:51:31] <Kodos> Gotta go starta download for my wife

L1402[08:51:37] <Forecaster> it's the same as before

L1403[08:52:39] <g> this is the second time I've found something impossible to do with OC's item APIs :v

L1404[08:53:18] <Izaya> Kodos: you seem to have a nice life- there may be issues, but you seem to enjoy it as much as possible

L1405[08:53:34] <Izaya> unrelated, just a thought

L1406[08:54:43] <Kodos> g, ELI5 what you're trying to do

L1407[08:55:00] <Kodos> Izaya, I try to as much as I can

L1408[08:55:32] <g> Kodos, let's say I have two OC computers in different buildings and a railcraft rail network

L1409[08:55:54] <g> I want to use one OC computer to request items from the AE network connected to the other OC computer, into the chest cart on my railcraft network

L1410[08:56:05] <g> (and then send it along, but never mind that)

L1411[08:56:33] <g> I found an export bus API bundled with OC but it seems to require a database component with the item I want to request in it

L1412[08:57:08] <Kodos> You could try writing a program that you send a search query to, and it stores all items with that string in the name into a database

L1413[08:57:15] <Kodos> not sure if that makes sense

L1414[08:57:34] <g> I'm not sure how you'd do that, though - afaik you can only edit a database manually?

L1415[08:57:53] <g> otherwise it'd have to deal with naming conflicts and stuff

L1416[08:58:40] <g> although I'm pretty sure the only way to get an itemstack in OC is from a database

L1417[08:59:28] <Kodos> ~w database

L1418[08:59:28] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:database

L1419[08:59:38] <Kodos> ~w me_controller

L1420[08:59:38] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:tank_controller

L1421[08:59:40] <Kodos> err

L1422[08:59:48] <Kodos> There's a way to use ME Controller's methods to store items into a database

L1423[09:00:01] <Kodos> So you'd just need to interpret a network message and deal with that

L1424[09:00:40] <g> hm, I see

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L1426[09:00:56] <g> I see the method for that, yeah

L1427[09:01:06] <g> Although I wonder how the filter works

L1428[09:06:02] <g> ..hm, this does mean I'm going to need a computer connected to the controller itself though, via an adapter

L1429[09:06:07] <g> cables everywhere once again

L1430[09:06:08] <g> lol

L1431[09:08:37] <Elizabeth> Vifino is being British, he is queuing

L1432[09:08:48] <meep> Inari: no idea what a shibari is but i think the correct way is without anything

L1433[09:09:04] <Inari> meep: how do you not know shibari

L1434[09:09:14] <Inari> Elizabeth: you're that popular?

L1435[09:09:55] <Elizabeth> Inari:?

L1436[09:10:11] <Elizabeth> Meep what about the other stuff?

L1437[09:10:11] <Elizabeth> :P

L1438[09:10:15] <Elizabeth> *lenny *

L1439[09:10:34] <Inari> Elizabeth: he's queueing for you

L1440[09:10:34] <meep> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

L1441[09:10:35] <Inari> :p

L1442[09:10:53] <Elizabeth> He's queueing with me

L1443[09:11:09] <meep> Inari: only at home

L1444[09:13:48] <g> How on earth does the filter work..

L1445[09:14:17] <Inari> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/24/c9/41/24c94159e9f04bdaa9e1f4224051ef50.jpg shibari example

L1446[09:14:38] <Inari> though i've seen prettier versions

L1447[09:14:46] <bauen1> this channel isnt set to secret btw

L1448[09:14:50] <bauen1> i think

L1449[09:14:53] <Inari> why would it be

L1450[09:15:06] <g> How do filter tables work in OC?

L1451[09:15:06] <Elizabeth> Inari: ooh :)

L1452[09:15:30] <g> eg, store(filter:table, dbAddress:string)

L1453[09:15:47] <g> (stores items from the network matching the filter into the database)

L1454[09:15:51] <Inari> i wanna try sansar

L1455[09:16:02] <Forecaster> give it a table of strings?

L1456[09:16:12] <g> oh right, tables are arrays too

L1457[09:16:22] <Forecaster> yeah

L1458[09:16:25] <Inari> everything is a table

L1459[09:16:39] <g> nope, it just matched everything when I did that

L1460[09:17:17] <g> ..How are tables defined in lua again? Like if I wanted a table {"label": "Keyboard"} in one literal

L1461[09:17:26] <g> It doesn't like that

L1462[09:17:29] <Inari> "one literal"?

L1463[09:17:38] <g> yeah, you know what a literal is right

L1464[09:17:40] <g> like "" is a literal string

L1465[09:17:50] <g> {} is a literal empty table

L1466[09:17:50] <Forecaster> local table = {}

L1467[09:17:56] <g> I have to define it beforehand?

L1468[09:17:57] <Forecaster> table["key"] = "value"

L1469[09:18:02] <Kodos> {["label"]= "Keyboard"} maybe?

L1470[09:18:03] <Inari> no

L1471[09:18:03] <Forecaster> that's how I do it

L1472[09:18:07] <Inari> you can do

L1473[09:18:19] <Inari> blah = {label = "keyboard"] afaik?

L1474[09:18:21] <g> Kodos, thanks

L1475[09:18:26] <g> that didn't error

L1476[09:18:27] <g> xD

L1477[09:18:31] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L1478[09:18:33] <Inari> #lua blah = {label = "keyboard"] print(blah.label)

L1479[09:18:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: '}' expected near ']'

L1480[09:18:39] <Inari> #lua blah = {label = "keyboard"} print(blah.label)

L1481[09:18:40] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > ⨌⨍⨎⨏⨐⨑⨒⨓⨔⨕⨖⨗⨘⨙⨚⨛⨜⨝ | nil

L1482[09:18:40] <g> okay great, yeah, that worked

L1483[09:18:43] <Inari> wat

L1484[09:18:53] <g> isn't that the mac crash string?

L1485[09:18:54] <g> lol

L1486[09:18:55] <Kodos> meep, unfuck the bot

L1487[09:19:21] <Inari> #lua blah = {"label" = "keyboard"} print(blah.label)

L1488[09:19:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: '}' expected near '='

L1489[09:19:24] <Inari> hm

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L1491[09:19:30] <Inari> could have sworn there was a way to not need [""]

L1492[09:19:33] <Inari> bauen crashed?

L1493[09:19:40] <Inari> hmm nah guess that would be ping timeout

L1494[09:19:40] <g> yeah, I think he's on a mac

L1495[09:19:43] <g> this happened yesterday

L1496[09:19:43] <Kodos> Yes, he crashes when that string pops up

L1497[09:19:47] <Inari> haha

L1498[09:19:48] <Inari> neat

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L1500[09:19:54] <Kodos> #resetsandbox

L1501[09:19:58] <Kodos> #resetlua

L1502[09:19:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Sandbox Reset!

L1503[09:20:01] <Kodos> Try now

L1504[09:20:09] <bauen1> Who just messed whit unicode??

L1505[09:20:10] <Inari> #lua print("try carshing!")

L1506[09:20:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > try carshing! | nil

L1507[09:20:14] <Inari> lol

L1508[09:20:21] <Kodos> #lua blah = {label = "keyboard"} print(blah.label)

L1509[09:20:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > keyboard | nil

L1510[09:20:30] <Kodos> There

L1511[09:20:32] <Kodos> Now it's fixed.

L1512[09:20:59] <bauen1> i hate vifino and MrRatermat

L1513[09:21:05] <g> yeah that works

L1514[09:21:07] <g> alright, thanks

L1515[09:21:25] <bauen1> one of them took my persistency exploit for DEADBEEF and compined it with unicode crash string -.-

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L1517[09:21:39] <Inari> g: yeah it just checks the item stacks against the table values for damage/maxDamage/size/maxSize/hasTag/name/label

L1518[09:21:43] <g> ..databases don't have an easy clear command to clear all the slots? jeez

L1519[09:21:49] <g> Yeah, that makes sense

L1520[09:22:03] <Inari> its called

L1521[09:22:05] <Inari> chuck db into lava

L1522[09:22:15] <g> haha, that won't be happening

L1523[09:22:34] <Inari> thats what you think

L1524[09:22:45] <g> well, I'm handling it, so

L1525[09:22:45] <g> :P

L1526[09:22:53] <Inari> lewd

L1527[09:22:57] <g> l00d

L1528[09:23:06] <g> Hey Inari, I'm surprised you aren't all over this miitomo thing

L1529[09:23:08] <Inari> Liz00d

L1530[09:23:16] <Inari> mitomo?

L1531[09:23:23] <g> nintendo's first mobile app

L1532[09:23:29] <g> it's a social network type thing

L1533[09:23:44] <Inari> well issue #1

L1534[09:23:46] <Inari> miis are ugly as heck

L1535[09:24:01] <g> haha, actually they don't look bad in this

L1536[09:24:10] <g> wouldn't make sense for them to look terrible given the clothing systems

L1537[09:24:13] <Inari> well they looked horrible when i tried to make a good looking one on 3ds

L1538[09:24:16] <meep> bauen1: the fuck are you smoking

L1539[09:25:14] <Kodos> meep, someone made the Lua bot print out that crash string any time someone wanted somethign printed

L1540[09:25:16] <g> Inari, it's not /beautiful/ but it's nicer than I've seen on consoles https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/miitomo.png

L1541[09:25:17] <Kodos> I reset the sandbox

L1542[09:25:21] <Kodos> Is fine now

L1543[09:25:29] <meep> oh, nice

L1544[09:25:34] <Inari> yeah

L1545[09:25:37] <Inari> pretty terrible

L1546[09:25:37] <Inari> lol

L1547[09:25:42] <g> :P

L1548[09:25:46] <Inari> the glasses might contribute to how terrible i find them though

L1549[09:25:55] <g> the glasses are just floating shapes, yeah

L1550[09:25:55] <g> :P

L1551[09:26:04] <Inari> nah i hate glasses on girls in geenral

L1552[09:26:04] <Inari> :D

L1553[09:26:08] <g> oh, lol

L1554[09:26:11] <meep> To those who saw it: Don't paste it, don't publish/spread. Hechar issue is a wontfux

L1555[09:26:20] <Inari> glasses can look pretty sexy on guys though

L1556[09:26:23] <g> they aren't fixing it, meep?>

L1557[09:26:30] <bauen1> yeah

L1558[09:26:30] <meep> nope

L1559[09:26:38] <bauen1> and i cant be bothered to switch clients atm

L1560[09:26:42] <Inari> #AppleIsBest

L1561[09:26:44] <g> google should put it on their homepage

L1562[09:26:45] <meep> bauen1: there is no persistancy exploit

L1563[09:26:45] <Inari> /s

L1564[09:26:48] <g> then apple will fix it

L1565[09:26:52] <bauen1> meep there should be

L1566[09:27:11] <meep> deadbeef is perstent until reset you idiot

L1567[09:27:22] <Inari> lol

L1568[09:27:36] <meep> g: hexchat's fault, not apples

L1569[09:27:56] <g> oh, I thought it was a mac exploit

L1570[09:28:32] <bauen1> meep: there was/is a exploit to overwrite what is written as answer to #lua

L1571[09:28:53] <bauen1> vifino might have fixed it tho

L1572[09:29:27] <meep> i did

L1573[09:29:52] <bauen1> actually i might aswell try breaking deadbeef until keelme comes back :D

L1574[09:30:15] <meep> and please, just overwrite print and _G

L1575[09:30:24] <meep> there you go

L1576[09:30:33] <bauen1> thats what they used

L1577[09:31:05] <bauen1> i actually remove the return value and the sanitizer checks for \n

L1578[09:31:32] <meep> not that i care

L1579[09:31:33] <payo-remote> o/

L1580[09:31:49] <payo-remote> good morning fellow ocians

L1581[09:32:01] <bauen1> well it was funny to make it write a big note about me breaking it whenever somebody run lua code

L1582[09:32:15] <bauen1> and multiline ascii art was also fun

L1583[09:33:27] <g> so now that I know how I'm going to do this for items

L1584[09:33:28] <meep> You know what isn't fun? Getting annoyed by you.

L1585[09:33:31] <g> I wonder if I can do it also for fluids

L1586[09:33:52] <bauen1> why do i annoy you?

L1587[09:35:21] <g> I would say arguably not, since the controller has no methods for fluids..

L1588[09:35:41] <g> OC would have to have extracells support

L1589[09:35:45] <g> although that is mentioned in the driver a few times

L1590[09:37:40] <meep> bauen1: I'm on a london trip with my love. I don't care what you exploitdd right now.

L1591[09:38:16] <bauen1> actually you started the conversation

L1592[09:38:27] <bauen1> so just tell me to stop and i will?

L1593[09:39:18] <Kodos> I can't tell if you're talking to someone I have on ignore, or if you're just not making sense

L1594[09:39:44] <g> Kodos, who was that directed at?

L1595[09:39:50] <Kodos> bau

L1596[09:39:57] <g> he's talking to meep

L1597[09:40:06] <bauen1> Kodos: talking to meep, and i dont care if i dont make sense

L1598[09:40:23] <meep> Kodos has me ignored?

L1599[09:40:29] <Kodos> No

L1600[09:40:31] <Kodos> I was just confused

L1601[09:40:36] <bauen1> well then i dont make sense

L1602[09:40:43] <meep> o_O

L1603[09:41:08] <bauen1> not that i would care about it

L1604[09:41:56] <Forecaster> I imagine you saying that in an Ior voice

L1605[09:45:25] <Saphire> New phone is awesome

L1606[09:45:38] <payo-remote> Saphire: stats?

L1607[09:46:45] <Elizabeth> Casually drinking Pepsi max on the Coca-Cola branded London eye

L1608[09:46:56] <Forecaster> :O

L1609[09:47:01] <Forecaster> cheeky

L1610[09:47:07] <Inari> i wanna drink sakura pepsi

L1611[09:47:18] * Forecaster prefers cola

L1612[09:47:18] <Inari> https://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/313.jpg?w=580&h=520 :3

L1613[09:47:31] <Inari> Forecaster: lizzy is a true rebel

L1614[09:49:54] <Elizabeth> Yup

L1615[09:52:30] <g> huh.. so I can put liquids in a database?

L1616[09:53:05] <Forecaster> I think it only takes item stacks

L1617[09:53:26] <g> The API for the fluid export bus is the same as the item one though, aside from fluid being in the name of the API calls

L1618[09:53:31] <g> meaning it also needs a database

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L1620[09:57:05] <g> as expected. controller.store() does not deal with liquids..

L1621[09:58:55] <g> hm

L1622[09:59:03] <g> I don't see a way to get what fluids are stored in the network

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L1624[10:01:09] <payo-remote> g: i dont have an answer, but just curious. are you working with ae2?

L1625[10:01:14] <g> Yeah

L1626[10:01:20] <g> I'm looking at extracells' OC stuff now

L1627[10:01:21] <payo-remote> and liquids, isn't that an addon?

L1628[10:01:23] <payo-remote> yeah

L1629[10:01:35] <payo-remote> so this would be a driver for ec then?

L1630[10:01:43] <g> Yeah, EC provides one

L1631[10:01:45] <meep> Why would a computer deal with those deathly disgusting goo anyways?

L1632[10:01:53] <payo-remote> sorry, i have very little knowledge of this area (compared to my other work in oc)

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L1634[10:02:02] <g> The API seems to match the standard AE one

L1635[10:02:19] <payo-remote> meep: it's stored as ME :)

L1636[10:02:32] <g> ah okay, I see

L1637[10:02:37] <g> It uses buckets of xyz in the database

L1638[10:02:41] <g> or other fluid containers

L1639[10:02:46] <payo-remote> oh ok

L1640[10:02:58] <g> but still, that can't tell me what's in the system

L1641[10:03:00] <g> hmm

L1642[10:03:16] <g> I'd have to have a completely separate database with every possible fluid in it

L1643[10:05:03] <g> huh, what's this

L1644[10:05:06] <g> an ME upgrade?

L1645[10:05:36] <g> can't put it in an adapter though

L1646[10:06:24] <g> ah, it seems like that needs to be part of a drone or something

L1647[10:06:29] <g> and still needs a database or whatever

L1648[10:09:15] <g> okay, we have 204 fluids.. that's too many for one database

L1649[10:11:28] <Forecaster> some of them are probably not gonna end up in there

L1650[10:11:40] <g> Not so many that I only have 81 though

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L1652[10:15:48] <g> yeah, all I can do is open an issue

L1653[10:15:51] * g shrugs and does so

L1654[10:27:43] <Inari> "your printer needs attention" well crap, no printers already act like babies

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L1658[10:41:26] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos

L1659[10:41:54] <Kodos> Vexatos, with the latest dev of 'Tronics, I get this http://puu.sh/o81Wv/45e40a1025.txt

L1660[10:42:39] <Vexatos> anything else?

L1661[10:42:49] <Vexatos> you has fml-client-latest.log?

L1662[10:43:08] <Kodos> Probably not, I've ran the pack a few times with the older one

L1663[10:43:17] <fingercomp> Kodos: try to update OC to the latest version. It solved the problem for me.

L1664[10:43:31] <Kodos> Erm, yes, that would probably be a good idea

L1665[10:43:33] <Vexatos> ah yea

L1666[10:43:35] <Vexatos> that might fix it

L1667[10:43:43] <Vexatos> all dev builds have "1.6.0" as a dep right now

L1668[10:43:52] <Vexatos> as I change between stable builds and dev builds

L1669[10:43:58] <Vexatos> which have different fourth version number scheme

L1670[10:44:14] <Vexatos> so that's why I am not using the fourth

L1671[10:44:24] <Vexatos> so yea, always assume latest

L1672[10:44:58] <Vexatos> also w00t almost 1000 commits ;_;

L1673[10:45:08] <Vexatos> fingercomp, thanks for your contributions to Computronics, btw

L1674[10:45:15] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_FFMdc people trying to use forums

L1675[10:47:08] <Kodos> fingercomp you should add a rack mounted raid ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

L1676[10:47:29] <Vexatos> also uh

L1677[10:47:32] <Kodos> https://youtu.be/u9Dg-g7t2l4

L1678[10:47:33] <MichiBot> Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music Video] | length: 4m 20s | Likes: 332647 Dislikes: 11319 Views: 30399748 | by Disturbed

L1679[10:47:36] <Vexatos> once tterrag gets his CTMLib done

L1680[10:47:48] <Vexatos> we might get connected textures as an optional thing on Colorful lamps

L1681[10:47:49] <Vexatos> .-.

L1682[10:47:55] <Vexatos> (asie ^)

L1683[10:56:48] <Saphire> gaaaaaaaaah

L1684[10:57:05] * Saphire 's eye twitches

L1685[10:58:25] <Vexatos> wub wub

L1686[10:58:44] <Vexatos> tomorrow starts our analysis training

L1687[10:59:33] <Saphire> that "setsuna" begins to be quite annoying :/

L1688[10:59:52] <Forecaster> what? again?

L1689[10:59:56] <Forecaster> I thought they quit

L1690[11:00:52] <Saphire> I am reading old issues

L1691[11:00:59] <Saphire> like a few weeks old

L1692[11:01:13] <Forecaster> ah

L1693[11:01:58] <Saphire> ow

L1694[11:02:22] <Saphire> i both want to flick that person and hug them

L1695[11:02:32] <Vexatos> D:

L1696[11:02:37] <Vexatos> in other news

L1697[11:02:41] <Vexatos> ERMAHGURD

L1698[11:02:42] <Vexatos> NEW

L1699[11:02:43] <Vexatos> FORECASTER

L1700[11:02:44] <Vexatos> EPISODE

L1701[11:02:46] <Forecaster> the final(?) hissy fit is a fun one

L1702[11:03:20] <fingercomp> 4 capacitors in one rack, that's good

L1703[11:03:40] <Vexatos> fingercomp, does it work? >_>

L1704[11:04:00] <fingercomp> not good thing is that it crashed when I tried to connect them to the computer =\

L1705[11:04:18] <Forecaster> so, no, didn't work :P

L1706[11:04:22] <Vexatos> what

L1707[11:04:28] <Saphire> also, got a new phone

L1708[11:04:40] <Saphire> it's awesome

L1709[11:04:43] <Vexatos> fingercomp, what happeneded

L1710[11:05:07] <Michiyo> Kodos, "Rack mountable raids" You mean... what I'm working on in OS... for you..?

L1711[11:05:14] <Saphire> wai, isn't fingercomp a CC

L1712[11:05:22] <Saphire> gah

L1713[11:05:36] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/4rOdLHK did i link this before?

L1714[11:05:37] <Inari> no clue

L1715[11:05:39] <Forecaster> 4 caps in a rack works for me

L1716[11:05:45] <fingercomp> http://pastebin.com/v0erkge0

L1717[11:05:46] <Vexatos> Michiyo, how does it even belong into OS

L1718[11:06:05] <Forecaster> Inari: no, but I've seen it

L1719[11:06:17] <Kodos> Again

L1720[11:06:18] <Kodos> Logs

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L1722[11:07:14] <fingercomp> At least the SSD worked well

L1723[11:07:18] <Vexatos> ikr

L1724[11:07:27] <Vexatos> did you test the adjacent-rack thing?

L1725[11:07:27] <Vexatos> :>

L1726[11:08:11] <fingercomp> yes, that's exactly what I did

L1727[11:08:15] <Vexatos> nice

L1728[11:08:27] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar http://pastebin.com/v0erkge0 what

L1729[11:08:28] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

L1730[11:08:30] <Kodos> Setting bottom rack components to top, and top ones to bottom?

L1731[11:09:19] <Vexatos> fingercomp, does it also happen with a new rack with 4 light boards?

L1732[11:09:33] <Vexatos> exact same setup

L1733[11:09:44] <fingercomp> I need to launch MC again to test it

L1734[11:10:14] <Vexatos> Because I see no difference at all

L1735[11:10:17] <Vexatos> Actually

L1736[11:10:26] <Vexatos> does it happen with remote terminal thingers, too

L1737[11:10:31] <Vexatos> anything but servers, pretty much

L1738[11:10:38] <Vexatos> because this looks like an OC bug

L1739[11:11:01] * Vexatos pokes asie for a reason

L1740[11:12:09] <Elizabeth> Home-wood bound

L1741[11:15:11] <Michiyo> wood...

L1742[11:15:33] <Elizabeth> Michiyo: no, stop, just need

L1743[11:15:37] <Elizabeth> No*

L1744[11:15:43] <Elizabeth> Fuck you too phone

L1745[11:15:52] <Michiyo> Hey, YOU said Home-wood...

L1746[11:15:55] <Michiyo> :P

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L1749[11:21:16] <Vexatos> asie, http://paste.asie.pl/9iFD

L1750[11:21:19] <Vexatos> :>

L1751[11:22:17] <g> crikey Elizabeth, you're a walking innuendo today

L1752[11:22:17] <g> :P

L1753[11:22:47] <asie> Vexatos: wait

L1754[11:22:51] <Elizabeth> Just doing my job

L1755[11:22:59] <asie> ohmy

L1756[11:23:09] <asie> i think it should be (INFINITY / 4) though

L1757[11:23:14] <asie> as you need four dedodated wams for a server

L1758[11:23:24] <Vexatos> But

L1759[11:23:30] <Vexatos> INFINITY / 4 is INFINITY

L1760[11:23:35] <Vexatos> java is smart like that

L1761[11:24:41] <Vexatos> asie, I literally fixed OC's memory system (and broke any architecture addon) just for this

L1762[11:24:48] <Vexatos> praise 1.6 breaking changes \:D/

L1763[11:26:42] <fingercomp> Aaand.. The same crash. I didn't even need 4 non-server-things. Connecting only 2 of them to the same side is enough O.o

L1764[11:27:35] <Vexatos> sounds like an OC bug

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L1766[11:32:41] <Vexatos> damnit

L1767[11:32:41] <Vexatos> https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/blob/master/src/main/java/pl/asie/computronics/item/ItemOpenComputers.java

L1768[11:32:47] <Vexatos> this class would look so awesome on Java 8

L1769[11:32:47] <Vexatos> .-.

L1770[11:35:01] <Forecaster> I hope this illnes goes away before I have to record the next episode...

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L1773[11:47:29] <Forecaster> http://nedroid.com/2007/12/beartato-74/

L1774[11:47:36] <Forecaster> this amuses me greatly for some reason

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L1778[11:50:26] <payo-remote> plus he's slippery

L1779[11:50:30] <payo-remote> it's good, i approve

L1780[11:55:22] <Inari> slippery?

L1781[11:55:22] <Inari> lewd

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L1783[11:56:23] <Kodos> Steam needs to get its shit together

L1784[11:56:46] <g> steam always needs to get its shit together

L1785[11:57:45] <Vexatos> yo asie or anyone else http://i.imgur.com/inWhTjm.png

L1786[11:57:47] <Vexatos> any idea?

L1787[11:58:12] <Vexatos> btw fingercomp. what do you think of the new light board texture (you should be seeing it if you are using the latest Computronics version .-.)

L1788[11:58:12] <Forecaster> what is that?

L1789[11:58:25] <g> dedodated wam

L1790[11:58:25] <Vexatos> A very boring texture for dedodated wam

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L1792[12:00:07] <lunarmom> Heya

L1793[12:01:01] <Forecaster> greeblings

L1794[12:01:17] <Vexatos> I obviously need something better

L1795[12:01:19] <fingercomp> Vexatos: it's ok

L1796[12:01:35] <Vexatos> fingercomp, sangar came up with that one

L1797[12:01:43] <Vexatos> now the colours look so similar though :/

L1798[12:01:56] <lunarmom> I made another world, built a brick house, and a T3 PC.

L1799[12:02:14] <lunarmom> Creative, this time.

L1800[12:02:53] <lunarmom> Going to make this into an adventure map, I think.

L1801[12:04:38] <Forecaster> with what goal?

L1802[12:04:45] <lunarmom> Idunno.

L1803[12:05:05] <lunarmom> I have a lot of ideas tho

L1804[12:05:29] <lunarmom> To pick one and stick to it is the problem.

L1805[12:06:25] <lunarmom> I could make it a zombie survival thing, with a few more mods, but Project Zomboid does that a lot better...

L1806[12:06:37] <Kodos> Zombie Awareness.

L1807[12:06:59] <lunarmom> Probably going to make it a puzzle adventure.

L1808[12:07:21] <lunarmom> Maybe a horror puzzle adventure.

L1809[12:08:00] <lunarmom> "Cripes... The generator stopped working? Better go check it out."

L1810[12:08:39] * Vexatos pokes Sangar

L1811[12:08:58] <lunarmom> "There's only me here, who could've switched it off?"

L1812[12:09:20] <lunarmom> brb

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L1814[12:10:33] <Vexatos> spooky

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L1816[12:10:41] * g looks over at DrummerMC

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L1818[12:10:47] * g pokes DrummerMC gingerly

L1819[12:10:52] <Lunar_Mom> Back

L1820[12:11:45] <Lunar_Mom> I switched to browser

L1821[12:13:57] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar which colour did you use for the creative items in OC? how did you make the textures >_>

L1822[12:13:58] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

L1823[12:14:34] <g> Vexatos: you don't have a colour picker tool?

L1824[12:14:43] <Vexatos> of course

L1825[12:14:48] <Vexatos> but he uses photoshop magic

L1826[12:14:52] <g> oh, I see

L1827[12:19:53] <payo-remote> colour

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L1829[12:20:02] <payo-remote> i can't help but read that with a french accent

L1830[12:20:20] <payo-remote> well, a hacked americanized french mockery accent

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L1832[12:21:20] <Lunar_Mom> Read what now?

L1833[12:21:43] <payo-remote> colour, "kuh-LURE"

L1834[12:22:08] <Lunar_Mom> "kuh-leur"

L1835[12:22:15] <payo-remote> mm, better

L1836[12:22:17] <payo-remote> kuh-leur

L1837[12:22:35] <Sangar> cou-leur?

L1838[12:22:36] <Sangar> also hi

L1839[12:22:49] <Sangar> what in the

L1840[12:23:01] <Vexatos> hi snagar

L1841[12:23:03] <Lunar_Mom> what in the what?

L1842[12:23:08] <Caitlyn> God damn it Sangar!

L1843[12:23:16] <payo-remote> snagnar

L1844[12:23:25] <Vexatos> what photoshop magic did you use for your creative items? I need to steal it for the creative wam stick

L1845[12:23:33] <Vexatos> unless of course you have a better idea

L1846[12:23:34] <Sangar> 2manytells

L1847[12:23:38] * Elizabeth is back home with her vifino

L1848[12:23:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, should it be like http://i.imgur.com/inWhTjm.png or should the board be magenta-ish, too :/

L1849[12:24:41] <Stary2001> Elizabeth, :3

L1850[12:24:52] <Sangar> Vexatos, mm, don't think the built in rams sticks themselves are colored. but a bit more... purple-ish?

L1851[12:24:59] <Sangar> just color-pick from the creative apu or so :P

L1852[12:26:07] <Caitlyn> Sangar, is there any sane way to reconnect a node after it's been .removed()? trying to just make a newNode doesn't seem to work

L1853[12:26:15] <Caitlyn> .remove()'d

L1854[12:26:35] <Sangar> %tell greaser|q awesome, by all means. and yeah, an interface extending Component is what i was thinking, too

L1855[12:26:37] <MichiBot> Sangar: greaser|q will be notified of this message when next seen.

L1856[12:26:56] <Sangar> oh, i got all my twells twice

L1857[12:27:04] <Sangar> twells

L1858[12:27:08] <Sangar> ffs

L1859[12:27:10] <Caitlyn> Sangar, o_O

L1860[12:27:10] <Sangar> fingers

L1861[12:27:27] <Vexatos> Sangar, that's exactly what I did

L1862[12:27:28] <Vexatos> >_>

L1863[12:27:35] <Vexatos> or do you mean, make the board purple-ish

L1864[12:27:35] <Lunar_Mom> buttered fingers

L1865[12:27:48] <Vexatos> <Sangar> Vexatos, mm, don't think the built in rams sticks themselves are colored. <-- is exactly why I am asking

L1866[12:28:19] <Sangar> Vexatos, i mean the three 2x1 color things

L1867[12:28:28] <Vexatos> those are picked from the APU

L1868[12:28:30] <Vexatos> .-.

L1869[12:28:35] <Sangar> orly

L1870[12:28:40] <Vexatos> from the lights in the centre

L1871[12:28:47] <Vexatos> the darkest and the brightest of the three pixels

L1872[12:29:13] <Sangar> in that case nevermind, i'll blame it being out of context :P

L1873[12:29:27] <Vexatos> if you have a better suggestion, go ahead

L1874[12:29:50] <Sangar> make it animated? :P like pulsate the colory bits?

L1875[12:30:12] <Vexatos> I had a neat idea, too http://i.imgur.com/EAUuOvP.png

L1876[12:30:35] <Lunar_Mom> dat WAM xD

L1877[12:30:35] <Sangar> looks like a weird flavor of chocolate :P

L1878[12:30:45] <Kodos> Sangar, any idea on Caitlyn's problem?

L1879[12:31:37] <Sangar> Caitlyn, node of a te? then joinOrCreateNetwork (or what it's called)

L1880[12:31:48] <Caitlyn> It's a Driver

L1881[12:31:56] <Sangar> huh

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L1883[12:32:11] <Sangar> why do you need to disconnect it?

L1884[12:32:30] <Caitlyn> I need to change the address, is there a better way to do that?

L1885[12:32:36] <Caitlyn> http://paste.pc-logix.com/view/d7570e23

L1886[12:32:37] <Caitlyn> My current code

L1887[12:32:42] <Sangar> ah, no. that's what you got to do then.

L1888[12:32:58] <Sangar> well, in that case your best bet is to store its neighbors before disconnecting, then reconnect to them all

L1889[12:33:01] <Caitlyn> the 2nd address is null, and I have to remove and reinsert the card to get it to detect

L1890[12:33:18] <Caitlyn> Ahh, I'd not thought of that

L1891[12:33:20] <Caitlyn> Thanks Sangar

L1892[12:33:23] <Sangar> np

L1893[12:33:39] <Caitlyn> Now a comment in my class, cause I have to go back to work

L1894[12:33:40] <Caitlyn> lol

L1895[12:33:47] <Sangar> heh

L1896[12:34:41] <payo-remote> Sangar: what was your thought on the buffer chomp?

L1897[12:35:12] <Vexatos> Sangar, should also add another memory stick that reduces your RAM amount

L1898[12:35:20] <Sangar> payo-remote, ah, yes. if i understand it correctly, that operates on read chunks? in that case i suppose it could fail if one chunk ends in \r and the next starts with \n no?

L1899[12:35:28] <Vexatos> I want to call it Google Chrome but I know I can't

L1900[12:35:29] <Vexatos> :>

L1901[12:35:37] <Sangar> Vexatos, but produces energy in return? :P

L1902[12:35:51] <Vexatos> nah It's just eat all your RAM for no reason

L1903[12:35:53] <payo-remote> Sangar: ah, true -- ok, i'll consider that

L1904[12:36:00] <payo-remote> Sangar: to support that, i'd have to store state for this

L1905[12:36:24] <Sangar> yeah, i'm not sure we care enough, but then again it could lead to really odd inconsistencies

L1906[12:37:04] <payo-remote> well, it is possible that a user provides a file stream for std in to run scripts

L1907[12:37:13] <payo-remote> and that file could have "bad" endings

L1908[12:37:47] <payo-remote> but i agree it's low pri, just something i've noticed

L1909[12:39:27] <Sangar> hmm, the buffer does have state already anyway, tho, no? so if there's an \r at the end of a chunk, just keep that around and prepend it to the next chunk or so?

L1910[12:40:07] <gamax92> hello Sangar

L1911[12:40:12] <Sangar> hey gamax92

L1912[12:40:35] <payo-remote> Sangar: i'll play with that. for now i've closed the PR

L1913[12:40:44] <Sangar> okeh

L1914[12:43:05] <gamax92> payo-remote: anything interesting happening?

L1915[12:43:45] <Lunar_Mom> I got my painkiller, finally.

L1916[12:47:54] <Vexatos> Hm Sangar, I cannot #redirect from a Computronics manual page to an OC man page?

L1917[12:48:19] <Sangar> not even with an absolute path?

L1918[12:49:31] <gamax92> Sangar: anything for me to do?

L1919[12:50:04] <Vexatos> Sangar, "path not found: computronics/<pathIactuallyentered>"

L1920[12:50:22] <Vexatos> even /../ doesn't work

L1921[12:50:23] <Vexatos> >_>

L1922[12:51:50] <Sangar> gamax92, hmm, dunno, if you have clever ideas on the low-level api throw them into that issue i guess? other than that, i don't think payo-remote broke luaj again so nothing on that front :P

L1923[12:51:59] <gamax92> what issue :P

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L1925[12:52:25] <Sangar> gamax92, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1730

L1926[12:52:32] <gamax92> oh that one

L1927[12:53:24] <Sangar> Vexatos, hrm, just /blocks/blah also goes to /tronics/blocks/blah?

L1928[12:53:35] <Vexatos> Sangar, should Tier 3 devices be mentioned in the manual index?

L1929[12:53:36] <Vexatos> yes

L1930[12:53:43] <gamax92> I'm largely rusty on low level stuff

L1931[12:53:55] <Vexatos> Sangar at least /%LANGUAGE%/blocks/blah

L1932[12:54:34] <Sangar> Vexatos, you mean creative ones? dunno, i don't have that issue since there's generally a t1 to collectively cover it :P specifically for your wam... maybe, since it's kind of a special case?

L1933[12:54:55] <Sangar> gamax92, ah well, join the club

L1934[12:55:21] <Vexatos> I'll just write up a fun thing

L1935[12:55:35] <gamax92> Plus I've never gotten cc65 working

L1936[12:56:17] <Sangar> Vexatos, ah, right, there's a makeRelative in the #redirect resolving because that usually makes sense...

L1937[12:56:22] <gamax92> greaser|q: poke

L1938[12:56:37] <Sangar> i guess that could check for a leading `/`... not sure if that'd break anything tho :X

L1939[12:56:50] <Sangar> but yeah. just make a page and a normal link for now :P

L1940[12:59:20] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://pastebin.com/MgPNXLMn good enough?

L1941[12:59:42] <g> that w10 update with native linux apps has just appeared for insiders

L1942[12:59:58] <gamax92> basically the whole idea of interupts and overlapping interrupts and such is confusing to me

L1943[12:59:58] <g> I'm dling it now, will report

L1944[13:00:15] <gamax92> however the idea of status registers is easy to work with

L1945[13:00:30] <Sangar> Vexatos, sounds like it's buggy af :P

L1946[13:01:39] <Vexatos> well I need to explain its unavailability somehow .-.

L1947[13:02:09] <Vexatos> Guess I'll change the tooltip to "Not sure how much is recommended."

L1948[13:02:11] <Vexatos> because

L1949[13:02:13] <Vexatos> :|

L1950[13:02:17] <Sangar> :P

L1951[13:03:40] <gamax92> plus I have no MMU

L1952[13:03:56] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://pastebin.com/CmsZKZ6M better?

L1953[13:04:27] <Vexatos> change "available" to "usable" I guess unless you have a better word suggestion

L1954[13:04:44] <payo-remote> gamax92: back, interesting? um ... liking the new job, busy. doing openos work every night because i suck and i keep finding bugs to fix :)

L1955[13:05:01] <Sangar> "univserse"

L1956[13:05:06] <Vexatos> totally indented

L1957[13:05:13] <Sangar> but yeah, good

L1958[13:05:14] <payo-remote> luaj!? i ... bah

L1959[13:05:15] <Vexatos> indented

L1960[13:05:20] <payo-remote> i didn't break that. someone came to ME

L1961[13:05:25] <payo-remote> i can't even remember who that was :P

L1962[13:05:29] <gamax92> I do have some sort of Memory Utility that can copy/fill with packed/unpacked input/output

L1963[13:06:45] <gamax92> unpacked being Y number of bytes from $X to $X+Y, and packed being Y number of bytes from $X Y times.

L1964[13:07:17] <Michiyo> g, it has the core, but not the packages provided by canonical, as far as I can t ell anyway

L1965[13:07:26] <Michiyo> so, no bash etc

L1966[13:07:27] <g> Michiyo, apt-get is there

L1967[13:07:30] <g> and there is bash

L1968[13:07:36] <Michiyo> I... didn't have bash

L1969[13:07:39] <gamax92> Michiyo: are you an insider

L1970[13:07:43] <g> You need to be an insider

L1971[13:07:46] <Michiyo> No, I'm just talking out my ass

L1972[13:07:48] <Michiyo> Yes.

L1973[13:07:48] <g> and also you need to enable developer mode

L1974[13:07:59] <g> and then enable the feature itself

L1975[13:08:01] <g> see here, https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/06/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14316/

L1976[13:08:08] <gamax92> Michiyo: >_>

L1977[13:08:12] * CompanionCube wishes only that it had pacman too

L1978[13:08:22] <CompanionCube> but that could be emulated by pacapt

L1979[13:08:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, should I make it a tier 3 item? :P

L1980[13:08:34] <Vexatos> which tier are your creative items

L1981[13:10:43] <g> I wonder if this will make cmd support shebangs

L1982[13:10:48] <g> I could really get behind that

L1983[13:11:56] <Michiyo> I sorta want a W10 phone now..

L1984[13:12:12] <g> Yeah, lots of goodies

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L1987[13:12:30] <Sangar> Vexatos, 4 usually

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L1989[13:12:55] <Sangar> or "normal tiers + 1" possibly

L1990[13:14:49] <Vexatos> so they only fit into creative cases?

L1991[13:15:31] <Vexatos> hmm if I'd make it blinkedy animated, and I have 6 blinking things... I could make it spell "dedodated" in binary .-.

L1992[13:17:11] <Vexatos> a pity that I'd need seven for that

L1993[13:17:41] <Sangar> isnt it dedotated?

L1994[13:18:30] <g> yes.

L1995[13:18:38] <Kodos> Either way it sounds fucking retarded

L1996[13:19:03] <g> you should probably think about what that says about a mod author if they include that in their mod

L1997[13:19:46] <g> doesn't reflect well :P

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L2000[13:23:42] <gamax92> perhaps I'll just look at greaser|q's cpu emu for tips ...

L2001[13:24:28] <Sangar> ste- learn from the best!

L2002[13:25:02] <Sangar> allrighty, payo-remote, merged! thanks as per usual :) one more thing i noticed, not sure if that's intentional, shift-tab doesn't seem to work anymore? i.e. cycling in reverse?

L2003[13:25:22] <payo-remote> oversight, forgot about it

L2004[13:25:30] <payo-remote> tonight?

L2005[13:25:39] <Sangar> whenever you have the time :)

L2006[13:25:46] <payo-remote> np, tonight then

L2007[13:25:57] <vifino> Lizzy fell asleep in front of me :)

L2008[13:26:02] <vifino> So cute.

L2009[13:26:20] <Sangar> i still want to have another deeper look into the network issue with eio circuits (that i can for the life of me not reproduce -.- ahd it running for hours)

L2010[13:26:46] <Sangar> and the mcu not properly saving component states or whatever that is, couldn't reproduce that one yet, either :/

L2011[13:26:51] <Sangar> hate those

L2012[13:27:46] <payo-remote> Sangar: btw i'm glad the tab complete thing was actually a timing thing. i did have unit tests on that, but unit tests tend to favor an exact timing behavior, and not variance

L2013[13:28:08] <Sangar> hah

L2014[13:28:50] <payo-remote> when i was able to repro it, it was so odd because it'd work sometimes, and then not work .. and then work

L2015[13:28:59] <Sangar> i see

L2016[13:29:03] <payo-remote> and i was thinking "there is no multithreading in openos, how on earth do i have a timing issue"

L2017[13:29:12] <Sangar> those bugs are fun too :X

L2018[13:29:25] <Sangar> so what was it exactly?

L2019[13:29:30] <gamax92> '-'

L2020[13:29:31] <payo-remote> key-up event

L2021[13:29:40] <payo-remote> i was clearing tab complete cache too often

L2022[13:29:47] <Sangar> haha

L2023[13:29:53] <payo-remote> :)

L2024[13:30:02] <payo-remote> so my fix is to ONLY clear on specific events

L2025[13:30:06] <payo-remote> rather than, just always

L2026[13:30:15] <Kodos> Any major content updates coming to OC soon that aren't OpenOS fixes/changes?

L2027[13:30:15] <payo-remote> whitelist vs blacklist i guess

L2028[13:30:26] <payo-remote> OpenOS fixes/changes ARE major!

L2029[13:30:29] * payo-remote grumbles

L2030[13:30:35] <payo-remote> %flip Kodos

L2031[13:30:37] <MichiBot> payo-remote: (╯°□°）╯︵sopo丬

L2032[13:30:37] <gamax92> Kodos: yes, LuaJ fixes too

L2033[13:30:43] <gamax92> :P

L2034[13:30:54] <Sangar> and one of these days, a proper 1.6 release :P

L2035[13:30:59] <payo-remote> :)

L2036[13:31:03] <Kodos> And what about those rack mounted upgrade containers

L2037[13:31:03] <Sangar> but no new blocks or such planned from my side

L2038[13:31:30] <payo-remote> any 1.6 tutorial videos with you and mightypriates crew?

L2039[13:31:32] <payo-remote> pirates*

L2040[13:31:37] * payo-remote loves those

L2041[13:31:53] <Sangar> might be worth it for the new racks, will see :P

L2042[13:32:09] <payo-remote> if you want some random idiot running around in the hilltops in the background

L2043[13:32:11] <payo-remote> <---

L2044[13:32:15] <Sangar> ^^

L2045[13:32:43] <payo-remote> or i could make a cube-farm building

L2046[13:32:47] <payo-remote> and we have a rack room

L2047[13:32:53] <payo-remote> you demo in the rack room --

L2048[13:33:03] <payo-remote> and i'd be one of the devs just working in the cube farm

L2049[13:33:16] <Sangar> we'll just put mannequins everywhere :P

L2050[13:34:09] * payo-remote sings "Nothings gonna stop us now"

L2051[13:35:02] <gamax92> Sangar: make a robot farm

L2052[13:35:09] <gamax92> using robots

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L2054[13:35:41] <Sangar> robots maintaining servers? :P

L2055[13:35:49] <gamax92> why servers

L2056[13:36:06] <Sangar> because we were talking about racks :X

L2057[13:36:20] <gamax92> "Sangar: make a robot farm" "using robots"

L2058[13:36:36] <Lunar_Mom> Server farm.

L2059[13:36:37] <g> right, time to restart for this update..

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L2061[13:36:47] <Sangar> you can't just change the topic like that and expect me to not be confused :P

L2062[13:36:58] <Vexatos> <g> you should probably think about what that says about a mod author if they include that in their mod

L2063[13:37:00] <Vexatos> why?

L2064[13:37:12] <gamax92> Sangar: you forgot something btw

L2065[13:37:18] <Kodos> Because when you have an item called Dedodated wam, it makes you look like a moron

L2066[13:37:27] <gamax92> components can't disable other components

L2067[13:37:27] <Sangar> Vexatos, it's a bit of a controversial meme

L2068[13:37:32] <gamax92> but Lua can disable components

L2069[13:37:49] <Sangar> gamax92, what do you mean?

L2070[13:37:53] <Lunar_Mom> Why's it called dedodated wam?

L2071[13:38:05] <Vexatos> Sangar: MightPirates Computronics tutorials when :3

L2072[13:38:13] <gamax92> from Lua, I can just filter out and hide the filesystem components, then merge em together and make a new one

L2073[13:38:25] <Vexatos> s/ht/hty

L2074[13:38:25] <MichiBot> <Vexatos> Sangar: MightyPirates Computronics tutorials when :3

L2075[13:38:38] <Vexatos> Kodos, but why

L2076[13:38:41] <Sangar> Vexatos, no idea :P

L2077[13:38:51] <Vexatos> I don't understand why it would

L2078[13:38:54] <Kodos> If you have to ask, it won't matter what I say

L2079[13:39:04] <Vexatos> huh?

L2080[13:39:08] <Vexatos> Now I am even more confused

L2081[13:39:11] <Sangar> gamax92, are we talking about the raid card issue now?

L2082[13:39:13] <gamax92> Vexatos: are you perhaps an idiot

L2083[13:39:17] <gamax92> Sangar: yes

L2084[13:39:22] <Vexatos> gamax92, no?

L2085[13:39:37] <Vexatos> I just don't understand why people would think I am stupid because I add a silly item to Computronics

L2086[13:39:51] <gamax92> Because it's a controversial name

L2087[13:39:51] <Sangar> gamax92, well, in that case, sure, you can, but the raid card would have to for hdds not also still being available normally, and that's not lua :P

L2088[13:40:10] <gamax92> you said to write a filesystem in lua :p

L2089[13:40:36] <Lunar_Mom> how is dedodated wam controversial? I honestly do not get it.

L2090[13:41:09] <Vexatos> gamax92, what is "controversial" about it

L2091[13:41:14] <Vexatos> it's just a stupid word

L2092[13:41:20] <Sangar> Vexatos, from my understanding the thing is in bad taste because some people set up a kid to basically make a fool of it and the panelists, which was a bit of a dick move

L2093[13:41:34] <Vexatos> huh

L2094[13:42:28] <Kodos> What about people who can't actually say it properly, and DO pronounce it like that

L2095[13:42:57] <Vexatos> You do not ever pronounce "dedicated" that way

L2096[13:42:58] <Sangar> that said, i personally think it's developed enough of a life of its own for that to be overshadowed by its "popularity", but i understand if people have an issue with it, too :P

L2097[13:43:12] <Kodos> Vexatos, do you know what a speech impediment is

L2098[13:43:20] <Vexatos> Do you know what an "intended typo" is

L2099[13:43:51] <Vexatos> I don't get why you are so pissed about it

L2100[13:43:58] <Kodos> I'm not pissed

L2101[13:44:03] <Kodos> I'm not even surprised

L2102[13:44:05] <Vexatos> you sound pissed

L2103[13:44:52] <Vexatos> Literally every pun ever is based on words that are similar in sound or text

L2104[13:45:01] <Vexatos> why are those fine then >_>

L2105[13:45:02] <gamax92> it's not a pun?

L2106[13:45:06] <Vexatos> no it is not

L2107[13:45:08] <Kodos> Because they're not tasteless

L2108[13:45:12] <Vexatos> but

L2109[13:45:15] <Kodos> Just

L2110[13:45:16] <Kodos> stop

L2111[13:45:17] <Vexatos> I don't get what's tasteless about it

L2112[13:45:22] <Vexatos> I just do not get it

L2113[13:45:35] <Vexatos> It's been so long since the word developed a life on its own

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L2115[13:45:47] <Vexatos> 3 years?

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L2118[13:46:31] <Kodos> Can we just move on to a less controversial topic

L2119[13:46:35] <gamax92> okay

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L2121[13:46:41] <gamax92> petting kitties

L2122[13:46:41] <Vexatos> can't we just finish arguing

L2123[13:46:47] <Vexatos> so I understand what you are actually talking about

L2124[13:47:02] <Sangar> imma go play dark souls now, i contributed all i can to that discussion :P

L2125[13:47:04] <Vexatos> you have yet to explain why it is so tasteless in your opinion

L2126[13:47:04] <Kodos> There's no point. I've tried explaining it, instead of arguing

L2127[13:47:09] <Vexatos> You didn't

L2128[13:47:20] <Kodos> No, I did, you just don't get it

L2129[13:47:20] <Vexatos> <Kodos> If you have to ask, it won't matter what I say

L2130[13:47:36] <Vexatos> <Kodos> What about people who can't actually say it properly, and DO pronounce it like that <-- not really valid because that applies to literally every word

L2131[13:47:54] <gamax92> Vexatos: it's a word that makes fun of something, and yes not all making fun of something is necessarily bad or good, but the one you chose for your item name has the potential to go bad since it's like Kodos said, relates to a speech impediment

L2132[13:47:55] <Kodos> My father could talk properly, except for the word oil

L2133[13:48:07] * Vexatos sighs

L2134[13:48:18] <Kodos> A speech impediment doesn't affect every word in someone's vocab

L2135[13:48:20] <Kodos> Now

L2136[13:48:22] <Kodos> Please drop it

L2137[13:48:23] <Kodos> And move on

L2138[13:48:24] <Vexatos> I know what a speech impediment is

L2139[13:48:29] <gamax92> Vexatos: no shush

L2140[13:48:31] <gamax92> new topic.

L2141[13:48:43] <Vexatos> I am well aware of what its effects are

L2142[13:48:46] <Lunar_Mom> Vault doors?

L2143[13:48:50] <Lunar_Mom> :3

L2144[13:48:52] <gamax92> Lunar_Mom: which kind?

L2145[13:48:59] <Vexatos> but noone I know with one is as pissed as you are about stuff like that

L2146[13:49:00] <Lunar_Mom> Bank vault.

L2147[13:49:01] <gamax92> like, a giant bank vault?

L2148[13:49:03] <Kodos> !kick Vexatos I asked you nicely to drop it.

L2149[13:49:04] *** Vexatos was kicked by zsh ((Kodos) I asked you nicely to drop it.))

L2150[13:49:05] <Lunar_Mom> YES

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L2152[13:49:07] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos

L2153[13:49:09] <gamax92> :3

L2154[13:49:18] <Kodos> There used to be a vault mod

L2155[13:49:23] <Kodos> Not sure what happened to it

L2156[13:49:27] <Vexatos> Kodos, you're being childish now

L2157[13:49:29] <Kodos> Had modular sized vaults

L2158[13:49:35] <gamax92> I think I've remember using that before

L2159[13:49:47] <Kodos> I'm really not

L2160[13:50:01] <Lunar_Mom> I've been wanting a bank vault with the ability to stack ingots as well.

L2161[13:50:09] <Kodos> Lunar_Mom, check out a mod called Stacks On Stacks

L2162[13:50:12] <Vexatos> why can't you argue just because someone is not sharing your opinion? I will change the name but just please learn to argue like a sane person

L2163[13:50:18] <gamax92> It's been a long time since I've really played modded minecraft or really minecraft at all.

L2164[13:50:23] <Vexatos> because the way you said your arguments was really confusing for me

L2165[13:50:29] * CompanionCube thinks that if your argument relies on 'what if someone X' then you don't have much of an argument to begin with

L2166[13:50:35] <Vexatos> if you just had stated them normally, this would have been over a long time ago

L2167[13:50:37] <gamax92> Any time I've launched it recently was just to go do things on OC

L2168[13:51:25] <Lunar_Mom> I put together a modpack to play with people, but I can't set up servers at home.

L2169[13:51:28] <gamax92> It just happens to be a Lua based platform to me, kinda like Love2D or Pico-8

L2170[13:51:56] <Kodos> Vexatos, I'm asking one last time for you to stop talking about it. I'm done discussing it, explaining it, etc. If you continue to bring it up, I will ban you for 24h for breaking Rule 13.

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L2172[13:52:08] * Vexatos sighs

L2173[13:52:19] <Kodos> I've made it as clear as I can why I think the name is bad

L2174[13:52:20] <Vexatos> I have a Déjà Vu right now

L2175[13:52:24] <Vexatos> Yes NOW you did

L2176[13:52:28] <Vexatos> in a very confusing way

L2177[13:52:29] <Vexatos> and I agree

L2178[13:52:31] <Vexatos> I will change it

L2179[13:52:39] <Vexatos> but you could just have stated it from the beginning

L2180[13:52:42] <Kodos> It's not conf- Fuck, why am I still arguing with you

L2181[13:53:05] <Lunar_Mom> Oh yes, this is what I've been looking for .3.

L2182[13:53:11] <Vexatos> You stated you wanted to stop the topic more often than you actually said why it was bad, that was my problem

L2183[13:53:26] <Lunar_Mom> Thank you so much gamax

L2184[13:53:34] <gamax92> Lunar_Mom: oh?

L2185[13:54:06] <Lunar_Mom> I've had a mighty need for a mod like this one.

L2186[13:54:24] <gamax92> I dunno what you're talking about :P

L2187[13:54:27] <vifino> Wow, Liz is so tired, she went to bed already.

L2188[13:54:43] <CompanionCube> it's only 8pm

L2189[13:54:56] <Lunar_Mom> Wait, you didn't... Oh damn... I need new glasses.

L2190[13:54:59] <Lunar_Mom> xD

L2191[13:55:09] <Lunar_Mom> Sorry, thanks Kodos.

L2192[13:55:39] <vifino> CompanionCube: to be fair, we had a trip to london today

L2193[13:55:47] <vifino> which was quite straining

L2194[13:55:52] <gamax92> I have to go work up on my Love2D project again today

L2195[13:56:19] <gamax92> Also have to finish porting loveframes to 0.10.0, most of it's already been done by others, but they forgot to change the parameters for keypressed and keyreleased

L2196[13:56:55] <gamax92> also need a new skin for it, might just invert the Blue skin though :P

L2197[13:57:07] <gamax92> otherwise it's going white

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L2199[13:57:29] <gamax92> actually, what does orange invert into?

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L2201[13:57:53] <vifino> black orange

L2202[13:58:00] <gamax92> RGB wise :P

L2203[13:58:11] <Temia> Cobalt

L2204[13:58:12] <vifino> noodles?

L2205[13:58:19] <gamax92> cobalt?

L2206[13:58:24] <vifino> Noodles.

L2207[13:58:24] <Temia> Cobalt!

L2208[13:58:27] <gamax92> yes

L2209[13:58:30] <gamax92> Temia was right

L2210[13:58:38] <vifino> We both were :<

L2211[13:58:53] <gamax92> okay Patrick

L2212[13:59:05] <gamax92> And no, noodles is not an instrument

L2213[14:00:10] <vifino> who the hell is patrick?

L2214[14:00:56] <gamax92> good ol culture differences :)

L2215[14:01:50] <gamax92> Temia, vifino: If you could go to a convention, what would you want to go to

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L2217[14:02:02] <vifino> 33C3

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L2219[14:02:19] <vifino> 32C3 was amazeballs

L2220[14:02:38] <Temia> ...well

L2221[14:02:41] <Temia> I.... don't.

L2222[14:02:42] <CompanionCube> vifino, you've never seen the meme?

L2223[14:02:47] <Temia> ._.

L2224[14:02:56] <gamax92> Temia: that's a valid answer too, don't worry

L2225[14:02:59] <vifino> CompanionCube: what meme

L2226[14:03:00] <vifino> .-.

L2227[14:03:23] <CompanionCube> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bKHCj9ToYp0/maxresdefault.jpg

L2228[14:03:40] <gamax92> could you have found any worse quality picture

L2229[14:03:44] <CompanionCube> no

L2230[14:03:50] <CompanionCube> enjoy the jpegness

L2231[14:04:03] <CompanionCube> embrace it

L2232[14:04:29] <vifino> oh, that thing

L2233[14:04:31] <vifino> i see

L2234[14:04:39] <Kodos> Vexatos, dropping it doesn't mean PM me -.-

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L2237[14:05:36] <vifino> Temia: Why wouldn't you go to a fancy convention? :(

L2238[14:05:42] <Vexatos> Kodos, sorry I wanted to apologize

L2239[14:05:42] <vifino> It's fun on some of them.

L2240[14:05:44] <Vexatos> >_>

L2241[14:05:53] <Kodos> "Friendly advice" is an apology?

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L2243[14:06:00] <vifino> 32C3 was fun, I'm sure you would have liked it...

L2244[14:06:08] <Kodos> Also telling me what I should do

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L2246[14:06:25] <vifino> Kodos: eat your vegetables

L2247[14:06:30] <Vexatos> Kodos, Advice and apology. better?

L2248[14:06:35] <Vexatos> You don't need to take either

L2249[14:06:41] <Vexatos> but I'd appreciate if you accepted the latter

L2250[14:12:19] <Kodos> Insulting me in PM is a fast way to get yourself banned

L2251[14:12:24] <vifino> woo hoo, i made a (very basic) irc server

L2252[14:13:07] <vifino> no pings yet, tho...

L2253[14:13:30] <KittyKath> Kodos, Vexatos. Both of you. Calm the fuck down already.

L2254[14:13:44] <Kodos> I'm fine, I've been trying to watch TV for the last 30 minutes

L2255[14:13:51] <Vexatos> I'd like to, but he keeps rejecting any apology I offer

L2256[14:13:52] <Vexatos> :/

L2257[14:13:53] <Kodos> He keeps PMing me, and kicking me out of full screen

L2258[14:13:55] <vifino> KittyKath!! \o/

L2259[14:14:03] <KittyKath> Vexatos: Other people have other opinion and some don't want to discuss shit. Drop it. NOW.

L2260[14:14:12] <Vexatos> KittyKath, an APOLOGY

L2261[14:14:13] <Michiyo> Oh for fucks sake..

L2262[14:14:15] <KittyKath> Kodos: Get a better client and do not ban Vex.

L2263[14:14:20] <KittyKath> Vexatos: DROP. IT.

L2264[14:14:56] <Vexatos> KittyKath, you have no idea how it feels to me to know that I made someone pissed without being able to resolve it

L2265[14:15:13] <Michiyo> Boy do I have news for you.

L2266[14:15:15] <Michiyo> :P

L2267[14:15:18] <vifino> ^

L2268[14:15:18] <Vexatos> I am literally crying right now.

L2269[14:15:19] <KittyKath> Vexatos: Well you are making it worse. So the best course of action would be to just shut up.

L2270[14:17:14] <Vexatos> I can't. Not without this thing resolved. I can not stand anyone hating me because of something I did with NO WAY OF RESOLVING IT WHATSOEVER. I will feel bad for weeks. I am REALLY bad at handling knowing this. I am weird.

L2271[14:17:18] <Kodos> I've got a kickban copied to my clipboard. If in the next 20 mins you mention anything remotely close to it again, I'll paste and hit enter. And Kitty, please don't tell me what to do.

L2272[14:17:23] <Kodos> Starting now

L2273[14:17:27] <Temia> Ahem.

L2274[14:17:32] <Vexatos> GOD DAMNIT

L2275[14:17:34] <KittyKath> Kodos: I will always tell you what to do.

L2276[14:17:38] <KittyKath> Vexatos: *sigh*

L2277[14:17:55] <Temia> Let's cool our tempers, everyone.

L2278[14:18:02] <Vexatos> KittyKath, I know I am as stubborn as he is, and I am sorry for having made a mess of this channel

L2279[14:18:03] * CompanionCube forsees no good coming of this

L2280[14:18:04] <Vexatos> I really am

L2281[14:18:14] <Temia> Now, Vifino, regarding what you said before this randomly exploded out of nowhere

L2282[14:18:22] <Vexatos> because it's only my fault that this discussion is still here

L2283[14:18:24] <Temia> I'm not really big on conventions. :c Been to them before, felt uncomfortable.

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L2285[14:19:00] <vifino> Temia: The few times I've been on one I felt the same, with the exception of 32C3.

L2286[14:19:22] * vifino is currently hiding behind a pillow because of the stuff that's going on right now

L2287[14:19:33] <CompanionCube> vifino, can I share the pillow

L2288[14:19:37] <CompanionCube> or would that be creepy

L2289[14:20:08] <vifino> I would say the latter. Sorry.

L2290[14:20:18] <KittyKath> Vexatos: Okay, look. You are not a terrible person but even the best people get other people upset sometimes. People value different topics differently so they (in your eyes) may overreact. But that does not mean that people hate you. Leave it be, let the moods calm for a while and then - a day or two later - just do a simple "I'm sorry about yesterday / the day before yesterday".

L2291[14:20:49] <KittyKath> Don't explain yourself, don't give advice - that will only make it worse.

L2292[14:21:04] <Kodos> I am perfectly calm. Since we're not able to drop it, let me say this; If you actually watch the dedotated wam kid, you'll hear them mispronounce other 'R's, such as the one on Recommended

L2293[14:21:27] <Kodos> It is a speech impediment. It isn't staged, it isn't funny, and it's not something to mock

L2294[14:22:00] <KittyKath> If they think you're an asshole before they won't change their mind. If they liked you before they will like you afterwards too - or at least give you a possibility to explain yourself. But that possibility comes from the other side.

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L2297[14:22:38] <KittyKath> ^ He did the right thing

L2298[14:23:40] <Vexatos> Kodos, I already said, your point is completely valid and I did rename it like 15 minutes ago

L2299[14:23:55] <Vexatos> You actually had a valid point and I god damn agree

L2300[14:24:26] <Kodos> Then why did you insist on arguing incessantly like a petulant child

L2301[14:25:26] <Vexatos> right now? I just want you to not hate me for having offended you

L2302[14:25:37] <Vexatos> that's much worse than anything I did

L2303[14:25:44] <Vexatos> with this memory stick

L2304[14:25:48] <Kodos> And as I said in PM, I've not liked you for a long time, for a multitude of reasons. Today has nothing to do with it

L2305[14:27:47] <Vexatos> Can you at least _recognize_ that you win this discussion and I changed my mind and this issue is resolved so we can actually consider this topic done?

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L2307[14:28:00] <Kodos> I knew from the getgo I had won, you were the one who kept arguing

L2308[14:28:09] <Vexatos> ...

L2309[14:28:10] <Vexatos> I

L2310[14:28:28] *** Parts: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p200300556E32CA017065F786DFABAB2D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (I guess I have to go now. Bye ✔)

L2311[14:28:36] <Kodos> Finally, fuck

L2312[14:28:40] <Kodos> I can watch television finally

L2313[14:31:56] <Michiyo> Oh man the fun shit you miss when you have customers..

L2314[14:32:07] <vifino> "fun"

L2315[14:33:00] <Michiyo> Did I forget my </sarcasm> tag

L2316[14:33:22] <vifino> Yes.

L2317[14:33:33] <Michiyo> I figured it was implied...

L2318[14:34:02] <alekso56> Literally everyone hates customers except vifino. :p

L2319[14:34:17] <Michiyo> lol

L2320[14:34:23] <vifino> What?

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L2322[14:36:49] <alekso56> vifino: you might have assume that the statement was missing a logical structure, here take a logical sentence "Oh man, the fun stuff you guys miss out on! these customers are the WORST :L"

L2323[14:36:58] <alekso56> *assumed

L2324[14:37:21] <vifino> oh ok

L2325[14:39:02] <alekso56> Ugh, these irc users. :oooooooooo *shotsfired*

L2326[14:40:16] <vifino> alekso56: oh ok

L2327[14:41:00] <alekso56> You should put that in a issue report on github, for maximum meme-sport.

L2328[14:41:15] <alekso56> *an :v

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L2330[14:50:11] <Michiyo> ugh ffs

L2331[14:50:41] <Michiyo> guy just brought 4 32lb boxes in that I now have to lug around manually type the UPS tracking number in, then take them back out front

L2332[14:51:18] <Kodos> Take a picture of the numbers with your phone

L2333[14:52:10] <alekso56> i got pretty pro at using a bar scanner app/qr scanner app that could send the numbers to the computer.

L2334[14:52:22] <alekso56> eased everything.

L2335[14:53:34] <Michiyo> alekso56, got a name? lol

L2336[14:54:10] <alekso56> nope, i forgot it completely after i stopped working there.

L2337[14:54:44] <gamax92> KittyKath: random question because looking for input, what's a good(any) way to handle dynamic resolution and content scaling in a game engine?

L2338[14:55:27] <gamax92> My current idea is just to have the engine map the sides of the screen as values from -1 to 1 and then seperate functions for anchoring content like a HUD to the edges/corners of the screen

L2339[14:58:23] <gamax92> well, it's also not going to destroy the aspect radio, some something like 4:3 would get -4/3 and 4/3 for the sides

L2340[14:59:37] <alekso56> Michiyo: the closest alternative i could find on google play now is neoreader qr & barcode scanner

L2341[15:00:10] <KittyKath> gamax92: How crazy do you want to go?

L2342[15:00:52] <gamax92> as much as you'd like?

L2343[15:02:08] <KittyKath> Add a CSS parser and use that to define the GUI looks. You don't need the full CSS3 standard, especially the animation part.

L2344[15:04:27] <gamax92> It's not an interface though, just some 2D(Flat 3D) graphics

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L2346[15:04:37] <Michiyo> alekso56, ahh yeah I've used NeoReader it's pretty good

L2347[15:05:16] <KittyKath> gamax92: Then I don't think I understand your problem correctly

L2348[15:05:55] <gamax92> KittyKath: automatically scaling content based on the resolution

L2349[15:06:37] <KittyKath> What content? The HUD/GUI or the rendered content? If the former, CSS. If the latter - viewport?

L2350[15:06:56] <gamax92> rendered content

L2351[15:08:21] <KittyKath> And adjusting the viewport is not enough?

L2352[15:10:37] <gamax92> well it is actually, it's just a generic term for the technical solution I've come up with, but thanks

L2353[15:11:27] <Michiyo> hmm now I need an easy way to get from phone to PC..

L2354[15:12:03] <alekso56> Michiyo: you mean a spam email? :oooo

L2355[15:12:22] <Michiyo> alekso56, no option to setup email on this machine..

L2356[15:12:30] <alekso56> spam webmail?

L2357[15:12:34] <Michiyo> I mean I could.... but boss might get pissy

L2358[15:12:37] <Michiyo> Oh hmm

L2359[15:12:46] <Michiyo> Yeah I don't have my webmail fixed yet, I'd have to do that t onight :P

L2360[15:14:49] <Michiyo> hmm... if I could make this somehow automatically send a email when I scan... lmao

L2361[15:20:08] <gamax92> Though I'm probably am going to use 100, makes it easier to do precents

L2362[15:20:10] <gamax92> percents

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L2365[15:36:03] * Elizabeth groans

L2366[15:37:00] <gamax92> misread, thought you said grows

L2367[15:38:19] <Kodos> Reading the logs, Lizzy?

L2368[15:39:20] *** gAway2002 is now known as g

L2369[15:39:25] <gamax92> HI G

L2370[15:39:28] <gamax92> capslock

L2371[15:39:36] <g> That took some time..

L2372[15:39:37] <vifino> gamax92: http://puu.sh/o8EQL.png :D

L2373[15:39:38] <g> but I'm alive \o/

L2374[15:39:53] <gamax92> g: are you hurt badly?

L2375[15:39:59] <Michiyo> Haa said fuck it, and setup pushbullet between my phone/work PC, grabbed "Barcode Reader" which lets me share via email, directed email to use pushbullet. When I scan a UPS tracking barcode, I select email, select the shipping computer, and it's instantly on my clipboard

L2376[15:40:02] <g> No, just, yknow, 2 hour upgrade

L2377[15:40:02] <g> lol

L2378[15:40:09] <greaser|q> mroing

L2379[15:40:15] <g> Michiyo, yep, pushbullit is awesome

L2380[15:40:24] <g> pushbullet*

L2381[15:40:28] <gamax92> vifino: irc server!

L2382[15:40:28] <Michiyo> Yeah, I love it

L2383[15:40:30] <gamax92> greaser|q!

L2384[15:40:35] <vifino> gamax92: yes!

L2385[15:40:41] <greaser|q> sup

L2386[15:41:09] <vifino> r00f

L2387[15:41:17] <Michiyo> and it cuts my possibility for fucking up on tracking number input down

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L2389[15:44:44] <g> Michiyo there are USB barcode readers too

L2390[15:44:51] <g> they emulate keyboards

L2391[15:45:10] <Michiyo> Yeah I know, but those cost money :P

L2392[15:45:14] <g> yeah, but not much

L2393[15:45:16] <g> :P

L2394[15:45:18] <Michiyo> and my boss is all about the no money spent

L2395[15:45:19] <g> and you're in radioshack

L2396[15:45:23] <g> surely they have some in stock anyway

L2397[15:45:24] <Michiyo> THink we have them? lol

L2398[15:45:26] <Michiyo> haha

L2399[15:45:28] <Michiyo> HAHAHA

L2400[15:45:31] <Michiyo> HAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA

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L2402[15:45:32] <Michiyo> lol.

L2403[15:45:33] <Michiyo> no

L2404[15:45:44] <g> :v

L2405[15:45:46] <Michiyo> I can't even get them from the warehouse

L2406[15:45:48] <Michiyo> I've checked

L2407[15:45:50] <g> Here we go Michiyo

L2408[15:45:51] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_21-45-39.png

L2409[15:45:53] <g> here. we. go.

L2410[15:46:04] <Michiyo> yeah didn't work for me

L2411[15:46:12] <g> did you do what I told you to?

L2412[15:46:19] <Michiyo> I'm wondering if something is fucked on my desktop

L2413[15:46:23] <Michiyo> I've not had the chance to yet

L2414[15:46:25] <Michiyo> also

L2415[15:46:33] <Michiyo> s/desktop/laptop/

L2416[15:46:33] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> I'm wondering if something is fucked on my laptop

L2417[15:46:36] <g> you _have_ to do that otherwise you won't have the compatibility layet

L2418[15:46:38] <g> layer*

L2419[15:46:50] <g> latest insider preview build:

L2420[15:46:58] <g> -> settings -> update -> for developers -> developer mode

L2421[15:47:17] <g> then: "windows features" -> install/manage windows features -> windows subwhatever for linux

L2422[15:47:26] <g> subsystem

L2423[15:47:32] <g> reboot

L2424[15:47:35] <g> then open a cmd and run bash

L2425[15:47:37] <g> that's it

L2426[15:48:00] <g> you'll need to be on the fast or slow ring for insider builds as well, not the stable ring

L2427[15:48:12] <Michiyo> I'll just PM that to my other self

L2428[15:48:21] <Michiyo> and yeah laptop is not in stable ring

L2429[15:48:28] <Michiyo> desktop is, laptop is not

L2430[15:48:46] <g> if your upgrade screen didn't look like this

L2431[15:48:47] <g> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/124255619791323136/167344797420355585/20160406_194804.jpg

L2432[15:48:51] <g> then you're not on a fast enough ring

L2433[15:49:01] <Elizabeth> "<@Michiyo> Did I forget my </sarcasm> tag" sarcasm is implied, it was in your Op in #oc contract :P

L2434[15:49:27] <Michiyo> Yeah, I thought so too :P

L2435[15:49:50] <Michiyo> g, don't remember what it looked like, I've worked since then :P

L2436[15:49:56] <g> :P

L2437[15:50:15] <Michiyo> Chances are laptop is getting a fresh windows install tonight anyway, so I'll just switch back to fast and get the update again soon

L2438[15:50:36] <g> Just install the new insider iso then

L2439[15:51:24] <Michiyo> But that means downloading the iso, and using the tool...

L2440[15:51:26] <Michiyo> :P

L2441[15:51:43] <g> you can't do that? :P

L2442[15:51:43] <gamax92> the tool D:

L2443[15:52:02] <Michiyo> g, effort.

L2444[15:52:07] <Michiyo> :P

L2445[15:52:12] <g> it's not much effort o.o

L2446[15:52:16] <Elizabeth> Kodos, just for future reference, please don't abuse your powers to punnish someone who has PM'd you.

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L2448[15:53:18] <Elizabeth> I don't really care about what you were arguing over, that topic was closed already.

L2449[15:53:24] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_21-53-21.png

L2450[15:53:29] <g> don't mind the ridiculous amount of green

L2451[15:53:31] <g> I maximised cmd

L2452[15:53:38] <Elizabeth> lol

L2453[15:54:15] <Stary2001> custom maid 3d? :p

L2454[15:54:37] <g> haha, I've screenshotted my roots before many times, and nobody else has noticed that

L2455[15:54:38] <g> grats

L2456[15:54:39] <vifino> g: test docker!111111

L2457[15:54:39] <g> it's empty :P

L2458[15:54:41] <vifino> :D

L2459[15:54:48] <g> vifino, hold on, trying to install git lol

L2460[15:54:51] <Stary2001> vifino: ....hahahaha no.

L2461[15:54:55] <vifino> Stary2001: yes

L2462[15:55:01] <gamax92> neeeeat.

L2463[15:55:05] <vifino> would be cool doe

L2464[15:55:16] <g> apt-get is having a hard time connecting to the interwebs atm

L2465[15:55:43] <Elizabeth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VgLKXD-BoY

L2466[15:55:44] <MichiBot> Nightwish "The Phantom Of The Opera" with lyrics | length: 5m 17s | Likes: 103248 Dislikes: 2172 Views: 23479540 | by northhillstreet

L2467[15:55:51] <Elizabeth> g, pacman -S git

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L2469[15:56:16] <g> Elizabeth: no

L2470[15:56:16] <g> :P

L2471[15:56:47] <g> I'm not sure what process these are running under

L2472[15:56:50] <g> I see nothing in my task manager..

L2473[15:57:08] <Stary2001> g, they're seperate

L2474[15:57:10] <Stary2001> iirc

L2475[15:57:17] <g> there's a bash.exe which is Microsoft Bash Launcher though

L2476[15:57:23] <g> yeah, but I'd expect a service or something using cpu

L2477[15:57:39] <greaser|q> now you too can have a bug called bash

L2478[15:57:58] <greaser|q> i would be tempted to make a childrens book called that

L2479[15:58:16] <g> looool

L2480[15:58:21] <g> I started bash outside of a cmd

L2481[15:58:22] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/bash_2016-04-06_21-58-14.png

L2482[15:58:49] <g> anyway yeah, I don't seem to have networking

L2483[15:59:23] <g> ifconfig gives "cannot open /proc/net/dev (no such file or directory)"

L2484[15:59:32] <greaser|q> g: is this msys, cygwin, or Microsoft Linux?

L2485[15:59:44] <g> this is the new windows subsystem for linux preview

L2486[15:59:47] <greaser|q> hawt

L2487[16:00:01] <greaser|q> is bash.exe an ELF or a PE

L2488[16:00:01] <Elizabeth> greaser|q, why thank you

L2489[16:00:21] <g> bash.exe is the launcher

L2490[16:00:26] <g> so I'd say that's a standard windows exe

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L2492[16:00:41] <g> I can't use apt-get etc outside of bash

L2493[16:00:46] <vifino> yes. Elizabeth is very very hawt

L2494[16:00:51] <LuMistry> Greetings

L2495[16:00:59] <greaser|q> ...is that font bitstream vera?

L2496[16:01:03] <greaser|q> AKA dejavu

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L2498[16:01:08] <g> I dunno

L2499[16:01:13] <g> it's hard to read, I opened bash in cmd again instead

L2500[16:01:49] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_22-01-47.png

L2501[16:01:49] <g> hmm

L2502[16:02:37] <gamax92> g: is the file utility there

L2503[16:02:43] <g> yes

L2504[16:02:56] <gamax92> what format are the programs (besides the bash launcher)

L2505[16:02:58] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_22-02-56.png

L2506[16:03:23] <gamax92> ELF o.o

L2507[16:03:24] <Stary2001> yes

L2508[16:03:31] <greaser|q> windows is now a 64-bit OS

L2509[16:03:33] <Michiyo> Also just setup Synergy so I could use a single keyboard/mouse to control our shipping and rental computer

L2510[16:03:33] <Michiyo> woo

L2511[16:03:34] <Stary2001> gamax92: its a syscall translator

L2512[16:03:41] <Stary2001> w/ elf loader

L2513[16:03:42] <gamax92> so is foreignlinux

L2514[16:03:44] <g> yeah, it's kind of like wine

L2515[16:03:45] <g> in reverse

L2516[16:03:49] <gamax92> like flinux?

L2517[16:03:51] <greaser|q> it's literally line

L2518[16:03:53] <vifino> wine in ubuntu for linux when

L2519[16:03:57] <gamax92> greaser|q: outdated

L2520[16:03:58] <greaser|q> vifino: right now apparently

L2521[16:04:02] <vifino> greaser|q: do it

L2522[16:04:11] <g> if I had networking I could probably install wine

L2523[16:04:11] <g> lol

L2524[16:04:13] <greaser|q> wait shit i misread sorry

L2525[16:04:21] <greaser|q> apparently someone managed to get wine running on windows 7 once

L2526[16:04:28] <greaser|q> or at least built in mingw

L2527[16:04:41] <gamax92> greaser|q: flinux though

L2528[16:04:50] <vifino> fl00nekcs

L2529[16:04:53] <g> I'm really not sure where to go to try to get net up

L2530[16:04:59] <g> the demo they showed had networking

L2531[16:05:27] <g> ah

L2532[16:05:29] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_22-05-27.png

L2533[16:05:33] <g> we have upstart, ladies and gents

L2534[16:06:20] <g> that uh

L2535[16:06:22] <g> that didn't go so well

L2536[16:06:23] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_22-06-19.png

L2537[16:07:05] <gamax92> greaser|q: I wonder what'll happen to flinux now though

L2538[16:07:05] <g> oh cool, nano

L2539[16:10:36] <Michiyo> What are: Things no one has ever said honestly?

L2540[16:10:37] <Michiyo> :P

L2541[16:10:37] <g> ahaha

L2542[16:10:40] <g> yeah, wine1.6 is in apt-get

L2543[16:10:45] <g> I just need to get networking up somehow

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L2545[16:11:27] <Michiyo> s/honestly/non ironically/

L2546[16:11:27] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> What are: Things no one has ever said non ironically?

L2547[16:11:31] <gamax92> oh also interesting, that layer does 64bit binaries

L2548[16:11:31] <Michiyo> there we go

L2549[16:11:35] <g> gonna attempt a reboot, then.. brb

L2550[16:11:41] <gamax92> flinux can only do 32bit

L2551[16:14:15] * Michiyo quits

L2552[16:16:22] <greaser|q> i'm looking at the wiki on the flinux github and 64-bit does look rather hard to fix

L2553[16:16:56] <greaser|q> it has to actually translate the code in the binaries beforehand

L2554[16:17:28] <gamax92> greaser|q: well I mean ... the microsoft thing is doing 64bit elf's so something's obviously changed inside

L2555[16:17:47] <greaser|q> yeah it seems microsoft's approach is going to be the most viable

L2556[16:17:51] <greaser|q> at least for 64-bit

L2557[16:18:05] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, :(

L2558[16:18:07] <Skye> MS seems to be emulating Linux

L2559[16:18:16] <Michiyo> Elizabeth?

L2560[16:18:17] <Elizabeth> Skye, you're late

L2561[16:18:36] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, don't quit, you're my best employee

L2562[16:19:01] <Skye> Elizabeth, welll, *makes jokes about british trains always being late*

L2563[16:19:20] <Elizabeth> C2C trains are pretty good

L2564[16:19:45] <Skye> the train I take to school is always late

L2565[16:19:53] <Skye> by a few minutes

L2566[16:19:57] <Skye> ALL THE TIME

L2567[16:20:08] <Skye> and when they change the timetable to account for that

L2568[16:20:13] <Skye> IT STILL IS LATE

L2569[16:23:14] <Stary2001> hahahaha

L2570[16:23:34] <Skye> the trains are so old

L2571[16:23:48] <Skye> and they don't have the spares anymore

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L2573[16:23:54] <Skye> (as in extra trains)

L2574[16:24:03] <Skye> so there are more cancellatiions

L2575[16:24:43] <g> aaand I'm back

L2576[16:25:17] * Skye flips trains

L2577[16:25:26] <g> so, yeah, I can't get networking up

L2578[16:25:37] <g> this is the closest I get: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_22-25-32.png

L2579[16:25:40] <Michiyo> %flip trains

L2580[16:25:41] <MichiBot> Michiyo: (╯°□°）╯︵suıɐɹʇ

L2581[16:27:30] <gamax92> %flip suıɐɹʇ

L2582[16:27:31] <MichiBot> gamax92: (╯°□°）╯︵trains

L2583[16:28:25] <Stary2001> g: grab the .debs manually, stick into the linux root, magic.

L2584[16:28:40] <g> blerg, yeah, I could do that

L2585[16:28:45] <g> but what's the point in having git without net

L2586[16:29:25] <gamax92> 1.6 is so old :P

L2587[16:29:37] <g> it's ubuntu trusty

L2588[16:29:39] <g> of course it's old

L2589[16:29:39] <g> :v

L2590[16:29:43] <gamax92> oh jeez :P

L2591[16:29:50] <gamax92> cause LTS?

L2592[16:30:03] <g> yeah

L2593[16:30:07] <g> I can't install wine1.6 anyway

L2594[16:30:17] <g> wine1.6 : Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4) but it is not installable

L2595[16:30:33] <gamax92> oh, you got net working?

L2596[16:30:36] <g> No

L2597[16:30:41] <g> it's already in the apt cache

L2598[16:31:00] <gamax92> did you investigate why it's not installable?

L2599[16:31:06] <g> I'm not sure how

L2600[16:31:38] <g> no installation candidate according to apt

L2601[16:31:48] <g> as in, it's not in my apt cache

L2602[16:31:55] <g> which I can't fix without net

L2603[16:32:12] <g> if anyone has any ideas on the net issue.. :P

L2604[16:32:36] <g> this is everything in /var/log: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_22-32-29.png

L2605[16:33:04] <Elizabeth> issue found: Windows

L2606[16:33:42] <g> are you really trying to troll at a time like this?

L2607[16:33:42] <Stary2001> :D

L2608[16:33:42] <g> :v

L2609[16:33:57] <Michiyo> g, welcome to #oc

L2610[16:34:06] <Michiyo> :p

L2611[16:36:19] <greaser|q> g: does xeyes work at least?

L2612[16:36:58] <greaser|q> ah shit turns out my distro lacks xeyes

L2613[16:37:16] <gamax92> g: ifconfig?

L2614[16:38:49] <Stary2001> ip a

L2615[16:40:52] <g> xeyes not installed

L2616[16:41:08] <g> ip a / ifconfig: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_22-41-05.png

L2617[16:41:24] <Stary2001> wonderful

L2618[16:42:16] <gamax92> g: what's even in proc :v

L2619[16:42:38] <g> gamax92, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_22-42-36.png

L2620[16:44:51] <g> here's /dev for good measure, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/Discord_2016-04-06_22-44-41.png

L2621[16:44:59] <gamax92> g: /proc/net/if_inet6

L2622[16:45:20] <g> I opened it in nano and broke it, it closed

L2623[16:45:20] <g> xD

L2624[16:45:21] <g> one sec

L2625[16:45:37] <g> okay, so, what? if up if_inet6?

L2626[16:46:14] <g> nah, those are just unknown interfaces

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L2628[16:49:58] <gamax92> >_>

L2629[16:50:04] <gamax92> cat the file you silly :P

L2630[16:50:26] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_22-50-23.png

L2631[16:50:49] <gamax92> the fuck is und

L2632[16:50:52] <CompanionCube> ^

L2633[16:51:33] <Stary2001> who knows

L2634[16:51:44] <g> ifup says it's an unknown interface at any rate

L2635[16:52:14] <gamax92> I'm just gonna guess it's a work in progress

L2636[16:52:21] <gamax92> networking atleast works in flinux

L2637[16:52:56] <CompanionCube> but in this version you can have 64-bit ELFs

L2638[16:53:35] <g> in their demo at BUILD 2016, they had networking and installed things from apt-get

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L2641[16:55:07] <Skye> g, maybe your thing is broken for some thing

L2642[16:55:19] <g> might be

L2643[16:55:24] <g> and hey, this is early alpha and all

L2644[16:55:25] <g> :P

L2645[16:55:42] <g> that brings up another thing though

L2646[16:55:44] <g> where is all this stuff

L2647[16:55:50] <g> like, it has to be stored somewhere

L2648[16:55:51] <CompanionCube> or it could just be that networking support shown was a giant hack

L2649[16:56:01] <CompanionCube> and they want to clean it up before any form of release

L2650[16:56:08] <g> perhaps

L2651[16:56:53] <CompanionCube> I'd bet it's buried somewhere in the Windows directory

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L2653[16:59:33] <gamax92> CompanionCube: but what about that odd placement of the hosts file in %SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc :P

L2654[17:00:07] * CompanionCube knows why

L2655[17:00:34] <gamax92> tell? :3

L2656[17:00:40] <g> some other networking things: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/cmd_2016-04-06_23-00-36.png

L2657[17:00:41] <Skye> probably because DNS and TCP/IP wasn't part of Windows

L2658[17:01:00] <CompanionCube> Isn't it because the network stack was originally lifted from a BSD?

L2659[17:01:01] <g> I guess it's just not in there yet

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L2661[17:04:13] <g> so vivaldi browser 1.0 is out

L2662[17:04:15] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/vivaldi_2016-04-06_23-02-40.png

L2663[17:04:17] <CompanionCube> gamax92, question answered good enough?

L2664[17:04:18] <g> I dunno why I can do this

L2665[17:04:19] <g> on the left

L2666[17:04:20] <g> but I can

L2667[17:04:21] <g> :v

L2668[17:04:23] <greaser|q> need an opinion on this one: do hardbus MMIO reads need a mask?

L2669[17:04:36] <gamax92> CompanionCube: makes sense, I remember hearing something like that

L2670[17:04:42] <greaser|q> i'm going to say no on this one, thing is i'm starting to make the actual interface for OC

L2671[17:06:41] <vifino> very scientific tests have proove that one is able to tickle Elizabeth

L2672[17:06:49] <vifino> prooven

L2673[17:07:19] <greaser|q> but then again some components may want to know what fields are actually being read

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L2676[17:07:46] <greaser|q> i'll leave it in even if nobody ever uses it

L2677[17:08:59] <gamax92> greaser|q: right I was gonna ask you something about interrupts

L2678[17:09:28] <greaser|q> you give the component a token it can use, it will then use that token as an argument when firing the interrupt

L2679[17:09:49] <greaser|q> oh fuck i just realised, some interrupts hold the line until they are cleared... i need to fix that

L2680[17:10:13] <greaser|q> gamax92: ask away anyway

L2681[17:11:03] <gamax92> greaser|q: (I know nothing about MIPS) How would you handle multiple interrupts or something, or about interrupts vs status registers

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L2683[17:13:04] <greaser|q> gamax92: are you talking about from the component end or the architecture end? MIPS has 6 interrupt pins, and if that's not satisfactory you can have an external controller

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L2685[17:13:33] <greaser|q> you read the state of these from cop0_sr

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L2687[17:14:16] <gamax92> both maybe? I'm thinking about the 6502 again and how it's got two interrupts, an ignorable one and a not ignorable one

L2688[17:14:19] <greaser|q> general idea is that an interrupt fires when interrupts are globally enabled, the specific interrupt is enabled, and there's currently a signal on the interrupt pin

L2689[17:14:46] <greaser|q> 6502-based systems typically have an external interrupt controller

L2690[17:15:13] <gamax92> would that be like reading status registers then (they'd be on the external controller)

L2691[17:15:17] <greaser|q> yeah

L2692[17:15:34] <gamax92> okay

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L2695[17:15:52] <gamax92> I know there's a few things already that are using interrupts, think a timer and the acia?

L2696[17:16:01] <greaser|q> x86 is a nasty case, John Mashey (one of the MIPS designers) mentioned the case although didn't call it by name (the 68000 also does this for example)

L2697[17:16:31] <Altenius> What does this line do in scala? palette.map(delta(value.value, _)).zipWithIndex.minBy(_._1)._2.toByte where palette, value, and delta are variables/functions

L2698[17:16:31] <greaser|q> basically, what happens in x86 and the 68000 is interrupts trigger a jump table

L2699[17:17:20] <greaser|q> what happens in practice is each vector sets a register and then branches to some common code

L2700[17:17:27] <greaser|q> so it's kinda shit

L2701[17:17:39] <greaser|q> this is what Mashey pointed out

L2702[17:17:54] <greaser|q> this is why MIPS uses the c0_cause register to tell you what actually happened

L2703[17:18:15] <gamax92> I've been wondering if the mmio stuff being talked about would help out with components for the 6502, if it means stuff is getting a more low level design

L2704[17:19:39] <gamax92> the Memory Engine atleast helps out with that for me

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L2706[17:20:51] <greaser|q> it might be a nuisance for 6502 stuff simply because it's a 32-bit bus and the 6502 uses an 8-bit bus; furthermore it's a wider bus width

L2707[17:21:00] <greaser|q> erm, wider address width

L2708[17:21:07] <greaser|q> but the address width actually shouldn't be an issue

L2709[17:21:13] <gamax92> the address width is 16bit?

L2710[17:21:36] <greaser|q> hardbus lets a component use up to 32 bits for addresses

L2711[17:21:59] <greaser|q> although that's probably bloody impractical, and the two components i've been making tentative proposals don't even hit 8

L2712[17:22:37] <gamax92> ahh well, stuff can be mapped in an out of the address space here, or use packed variants instead

L2713[17:23:50] <greaser|q> tbh hardbus will still be clunky for 6502 but hopefully less clunky than softbus is

L2714[17:25:31] <greaser|q> i was considering getting rid of dmaSetChannel but you still need to tell a component where to write when it needs to write to an architecture DMA channel

L2715[17:25:59] <gamax92> I guess the memory engine is my form of DMA :v

L2716[17:29:56] <g> Forecaster, I have a question for you

L2717[17:30:24] <g> There are railcraft "hidden block" tile entities strewn about my world for.. some reason, as resident railcraft #oc dude, do you know what that's about?

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L2719[17:30:45] <gamax92> g: heat?

L2720[17:30:58] <g> I dunno what they are

L2721[17:31:00] <Matty45> Hi

L2722[17:31:05] <g> but they cause client crashes when you place a decocraft item in them

L2723[17:31:23] <gamax92> I know railcraft dumps "residual heat" blocks everywhere you walk

L2724[17:31:42] <g> is there any reason I shouldn't disable those blocks?

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L2726[17:32:29] <gamax92> g: if you use the trackman goggles, the Tracking Aura will not work

L2727[17:32:52] <g> hm, oaky

L2728[17:32:54] <g> okay*

L2729[17:32:56] <g> I can live without that

L2730[17:33:19] <g> question is HOW I can turn this off

L2731[17:33:20] <g> lol

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L2733[17:34:29] <gamax92> g: blocks.cfg -> B:residual.heat=false

L2734[17:34:33] <g> aha

L2735[17:34:34] <g> okay, thanks

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L2738[17:43:05] <g> so uhh

L2739[17:43:11] <g> it's time to renew my pycharm jetbrains OSS licenses for ultros

L2740[17:43:17] <Caitlyn> woo

L2741[17:43:21] <g> and the only way I can do that is change it to a toolbox subscription

L2742[17:43:25] <g> it was a one-click job

L2743[17:43:32] <g> but now the license is valid for _all_ jetbrains products

L2744[17:43:35] <g> that's.. holy crap

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L2746[17:47:19] <Caitlyn> damn it.. I have no idea how to store these nodes

L2747[17:47:46] <greaser|q> oooh nice

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L2749[17:51:03] <Caitlyn> ffs internet

L2750[17:52:07] <Caitlyn> god damn it

L2751[17:52:13] * Caitlyn sighs

L2752[17:53:00] <Caitlyn> node is fucking null here

L2753[17:53:09] <Caitlyn> so I CAN'T reconnect to the neighbors

L2754[17:55:46] <Caitlyn> %flip Sangar

L2755[17:55:47] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: (╯°□°）╯︵ɹɐɓuɐS

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L2759[18:20:28] <Kodos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/ce940696cba263c4a0fc36d2ed9b1a1939d74a04

L2760[18:20:35] <Kodos> Caitlyn, ^ Maybe that?

L2761[18:21:36] <Caitlyn> Kodos, this isn't rack stuff

L2762[18:21:41] <Kodos> oh

L2763[18:21:44] <Caitlyn> this is the Network card

L2764[18:21:48] <Kodos> Ah

L2765[18:23:16] <Caitlyn> http://paste.pc-logix.com/view/464aa28f

L2766[18:25:12] <Kodos> You're calling it modem?

L2767[18:25:34] <Caitlyn> Yeah, just like the regular network card

L2768[18:25:38] <Kodos> Could it be conflicting with the existing one

L2769[18:25:52] <Caitlyn> No..

L2770[18:26:08] <Caitlyn> It works fine except for reconnecting

L2771[18:34:15] <Caitlyn> gamax92, Do you know anything about this..?

L2772[18:34:22] <gamax92> hello

L2773[18:34:35] <gamax92> that paste is 404 for me

L2774[18:34:42] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬ ffs stikked

L2775[18:35:19] <Caitlyn> http://hastebin.com/iyohicutic.hs

L2776[18:35:37] <Caitlyn> this.node is null after calling remove() even if I do newNode

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L2778[18:43:35] <gamax92> oh ... that kind of stuff

L2779[18:46:38] <Caitlyn> Yes..

L2780[18:51:21] <greaser|q> just realised an issue with hardbus: it assumes there are no other components fighting for the bus

L2781[18:51:37] <gamax92> greaser|q: isn't that an issue in general

L2782[18:51:47] <gamax92> with that style of device access

L2783[18:51:48] <greaser|q> it's amplified with hardbus

L2784[18:52:24] <greaser|q> mainly, IRQ and DMA channels need to know what architecture they're mapped to

L2785[18:52:44] <greaser|q> and i think it would be possible to map a pin/channel to more than one architecture

L2786[18:53:23] <greaser|q> thing is, what's the class/interface for an architecture?

L2787[18:53:43] * vifino carries Elizabeth to bed

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L2793[19:24:34] <gamax92> I have acquired pizza!

L2794[19:24:52] <Caitlyn> gamax92, just finished Pizza!

L2795[19:25:11] <gamax92> I know, thanks for the extra slices

L2796[19:25:20] <Caitlyn> Np :P

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L2798[19:36:46] <gamax92> "I just wanted to taste it, that's all"

L2799[19:36:51] <gamax92> *ate an entire slice of pizza*

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L2821[22:46:37] <xarses> hmm, so is there a way to compare against the hand slot? it seems no

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L2825[23:28:06] <payo-remote> Shuudoushi:

L2826[23:28:52] <payo-remote> Shuudoushi: it appears to make wget safer is not a simple one liner

L2827[23:28:58] <payo-remote> it appears there are many ways it can fail

L2828[23:29:14] <payo-remote> without using a temp file safety net, this appears to be a reasonable solution: https://git.io/vVKIf

L2829[23:29:27] <payo-remote> however, i think the best solution would be to use a temp file

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L2831[23:49:49] <payo-remote> anyone have a bash system that cycle tab completes instead of stops on first ambiguity and then inline-prints options on 2nd tab

L2832[23:49:50] <payo-remote> ?

L2833[23:51:34] <Saphire> zsh

L2834[23:51:42] <payo-remote> Saphire: would you test something for me?

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L2836[23:51:43] <gamax92> ash

L2837[23:51:56] <gamax92> oh, nvm

L2838[23:51:59] <Saphire> payo-remote: hm?

L2839[23:52:08] <Saphire> test what?

L2840[23:52:12] <payo-remote> tab complete through a cycle, and then left arrow and then right arrow, and tab again

L2841[23:52:25] <payo-remote> does it continue to cycle ALL? or a reduced set starting from that print again

L2842[23:52:46] <gamax92> I'd imagine it'd be the reduced set

L2843[23:52:47] * payo-remote hopes that was understandable

L2844[23:52:54] <Saphire> um?

L2845[23:52:56] <payo-remote> probably, just curious

L2846[23:53:17] <payo-remote> Saphire: say you have files "f" and "foo" and "foo2"

L2847[23:53:25] <payo-remote> ls f[tab] should cycle all three

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L2849[23:53:33] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos

L2850[23:53:35] <payo-remote> when it says foo, press left arrow and then right arrow

L2851[23:53:37] <payo-remote> then tab again

L2852[23:53:44] <payo-remote> does it cycle all 3, or just foo and foo2?

L2853[23:54:30] <Saphire> hm

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L2855[23:55:50] <Saphire> welp..

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L2858[23:56:17] <Saphire> i use a menu for that and it uses arrow keys to navigate..

L2859[23:56:22] <payo-remote> haha

L2860[23:56:23] <payo-remote> ok

L2861[23:56:38] <payo-remote> i can just download another shell and test

L2862[23:56:59] <payo-remote> also, thanks all for understand that when i said "bash system" really what i meant was "another shell"

L2863[23:57:00] <payo-remote> :)

L2864[23:57:12] <Saphire> i can disable the menu...

L2865[23:57:39] <payo-remote> ah thanks :) i appreciate it

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