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L4[00:00:16] <Shuudoushi> most of it is really payonels by this point >.>

L5[00:00:17] <ocdoc> DB Update Detected, reloading ..

L6[00:00:17] <ocdoc> Everything's cool

L7[00:01:04] * gamax92 pets ocdoc~

L8[00:01:04] * ocdoc purrs

L9[00:01:06] <Shuudoushi> minus the SOS specific stuff that is

L10[00:01:25] <gamax92> anyway I have to sleeps

L11[00:01:35] <Shuudoushi> o/

L12[00:01:43] <Mimiru> o/

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L14[00:03:50] <Shuudoushi> Mimiru: pushing to release

L15[00:04:54] <Mimiru> Nah

L16[00:04:55] <Mimiru> Denied

L17[00:06:03] <payonel> Shuudoushi: btw, grep

L18[00:06:07] <payonel> grep is awesome now

L19[00:06:18] <Shuudoushi> lol

L20[00:06:45] <payonel> find is there, it doesn't have the BEST mirroring with gnu find due to shell.parse (i was too lazy to mimic gnu find arg parsing myself)

L21[00:06:48] <payonel> but it works

L22[00:06:57] <payonel> anywho, grep coloring and such, it's all there

L23[00:07:03] <payonel> try it out :)

L24[00:07:11] <Shuudoushi> already have :3

L25[00:07:33] <Shuudoushi> you saved me like endless hours worth of work trying to figure it out myself lol

L26[00:08:04] <Shuudoushi> btw, payonel, http://goo.gl/Hpduw1

L27[00:08:31] <payonel> label-guid ?

L28[00:08:35] <payonel> interesting idea

L29[00:09:14] <Shuudoushi> and further more http://goo.gl/IwzaeH

L30[00:09:21] <Shuudoushi> it's dynamic!

L31[00:09:37] <payonel> haha

L32[00:09:39] <payonel> nice

L33[00:10:19] <Shuudoushi> plus line 54 https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/blob/release/SecureOS/boot/90_filesystem.lua#L8-L24

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L35[00:17:13] <Shuudoushi> payonel: my greetings are better than yours! http://goo.gl/C3DlB5

L36[00:17:14] <Shuudoushi> lol

L37[00:17:56] <payonel> ha

L38[00:18:00] <payonel> i didn't touch motd's

L39[00:19:23] <Shuudoushi> lol

L40[00:19:43] <Shuudoushi> I'd get bored or pissed and make a couple or something

L41[00:20:21] <Shuudoushi> now I just need to figure out how to get the motd to saty at the top of the screen whil enot in a program...

L42[00:20:30] <Shuudoushi> but that'll be for another day

L43[00:20:47] <Mimiru> Just tested OpenFM on a fresh install of Xubuntu

L44[00:20:50] <Shuudoushi> may, or may not, have work tomorrow...

L45[00:20:54] <Mimiru> And wouldn't you know it....

L46[00:20:57] <Mimiru> it plays.

L47[00:21:07] <Shuudoushi> lmao

L48[00:21:20] <Shuudoushi> so vifino broke something in his OS huh/

L49[00:21:20] <payonel> hmm

L50[00:21:40] <payonel> i just noticed io_handle:read("*l") returns \13 (CR)

L51[00:21:50] <Mimiru> I guess so

L52[00:22:03] <Mimiru> but I'm playing DeepHouse on radionomy with no issue

L53[00:23:53] <payonel> ok i am out

L54[00:23:56] <payonel> o/

L55[00:36:21] <Shuudoushi> payonel: peace and thanks for the help ^^;

L56[00:48:49] <Antheus> I'm going to put my new API on OPPM and then my DNS then I'm hitting the hay

L57[00:50:14] <Antheus> Strange

L58[00:50:20] <Antheus> My home dir isn't loading

L59[00:51:01] <Antheus> I'm very conerned

L60[00:51:12] <Antheus> Opend a terminal and ls isn't doing anthing

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L62[00:53:53] <Saphire> rm -rf?

L63[00:54:08] <Kodos> New API?

L64[00:55:56] <Antheus> oh my

L65[00:56:14] <Antheus> something went went wrong with my server

L66[00:56:26] <Antheus> put me into a maintaince shell

L67[00:58:35] <Antheus> .-.

L68[00:58:51] <Saphire> Hm?

L69[01:09:12] <Antheus> Seems to be working

L70[01:09:37] <Antheus> what is the difference between '//usr/lib' and '/usr/lib'?

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L72[01:11:45] <Izaya> one has an extra /

L73[01:11:51] <Antheus> kk

L74[01:21:17] <Antheus> .oppm

L75[01:21:35] * Antheus waits

L76[01:22:02] <Antheus> .oppm

L77[01:22:05] <Antheus> er

L78[01:25:32] <Antheus> .p

L79[01:25:33] <^v4> Ping reply from Antheus 0.56s

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L81[01:28:54] zsh sets mode: +v on asie

L82[01:31:47] <Antheus> .oppm

L83[01:31:58] <Antheus> !oppm

L84[01:32:00] <Antheus> ~oppm

L85[01:32:23] <Antheus> .openprg

L86[01:32:25] <^v4> Antheus, http://v4.pixeltoast.tk/paste/uAhlr.html

L87[01:32:28] <Antheus> there we go

L88[01:33:29] <Antheus> .openprg

L89[01:33:31] <^v4> Antheus, http://v4.pixeltoast.tk/paste/LuBRm.html

L90[01:35:00] <Antheus> .openprg

L91[01:35:15] <Antheus> ...

L92[01:35:17] <^v4> Antheus, http://v4.pixeltoast.tk/paste/nk0hz.html

L93[01:35:58] <Antheus> How often does openprograms.github.io update?

L94[01:41:39] <ping> Antheus, it doesnt run automatically .-.

L95[01:41:48] <ping> you are manually updating it

L96[01:41:54] <ping> what are you expecting it to update?

L97[01:43:13] <ping> dafuq

L98[01:44:34] <ping> Antheus, i know for a fact github caches the html so that might be it

L99[01:46:52] <Antheus> Yah, it was cached

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L101[01:53:35] <iRaje> @Lizzy

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L103[01:58:34] <Kimiro> Welp. It's been real.

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L107[02:31:45] <Kodos> So uhh who was that

L108[02:54:20] <Shuudoushi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQBGmBOhQEE

L109[02:54:21] <MichiBot> Pan Smells Like Teen Spirit | length: 1m 46s | Likes: 5555 Dislikes: 1337 Views: 949005 | by movies soundtracks

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L111[03:31:24] <Antheus> If you had multiple of the same component, say OC Lights, how would you change them all at once?

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L113[03:33:17] <Antheus> Shuudoushi, didn't you do something like this?

L114[03:33:52] <Shuudoushi> get their proxy info

L115[03:34:04] <Shuudoushi> or label

L116[03:34:11] <Shuudoushi> resolve down to address

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L118[03:34:35] <Shuudoushi> run it ina for loops, pairs should do

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L121[03:38:04] <Izaya> Shuudoushi: what in haruhi's name

L122[03:38:26] <Shuudoushi> ?

L123[03:38:45] <Izaya> The video

L124[03:39:53] <Shuudoushi> oh lol

L125[03:40:05] <Shuudoushi> not 1/2 bad really

L126[03:40:28] <Shuudoushi> fucking weird, but not bad

L127[03:42:07] <Izaya> certainly looks interesting

L128[03:42:18] <Izaya> But uh, guessing not very serious

L129[03:55:15] <Antheus> ~w component

L130[03:55:15] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component

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L140[04:49:55] <Kodos> Only took me all night, but I'm 15 minutes away from finishing S2 of Daredevil

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L144[05:25:15] <Sangar> o/

L145[05:32:31] <cloakable> woot

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L147[05:55:33] <asie> hi Sangar

L148[05:56:28] <Sangar> hey asie

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L151[06:01:25] <WatchtowerAnnouncer> Time for a new episode from F.orecaster! You're welcome! (Period to prevent ping)

L152[06:01:25] <WatchtowerAnnouncer> https://youtu.be/NVrS_lCmRkw - Railcraft [Episode 10] - Count Your Tokens

L153[06:01:25] <WatchtowerAnnouncer> Tags on this video: Trains,Tutorial,Token,Computers,Computronics,OpenComputers,Programming

L154[06:01:29] <MichiBot> Railcraft [Episode 10] - Count Your Tokens | length: 22m 53s | Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0 Views: 3 | by Forecaster

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L156[06:04:55] * Dimensional is enjoying OC. Hopes to see it on 1.9, and possibly with the other mods that depend on it.

L157[06:05:01] <Dimensional> Most awesome mod ever!

L158[06:08:48] <Sangar> heh, thanks :) as for 1.9, it'll definitely happen, just no eta. but pretty sure not before forge for it goes stable :P

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L163[06:32:11] <g> the MC obfuscation really is a shame

L164[06:32:23] <g> for the most part, if it wasn't there, mods would only really need a recompile to be compatible with updates..

L165[06:33:32] <Sangar> not really? unless mojang had every mod ever in their project to refactor them along with their mc refactors

L166[06:36:14] <g> I'm assuming that forge would still exist

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L169[06:40:03] <Izaya> how do I make serializaiton.serialize output infinite lines?

L170[06:40:07] <Izaya> ~w serialization

L171[06:40:07] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:serialization

L172[06:50:50] <Sangar> g but BlockPos for example isn't forge :P

L173[06:51:05] <g> yeah I know, obviously when they refactor things mods will have to update

L174[06:51:10] <g> but it'd be a hell of a lot easier even then

L175[06:51:52] <Sangar> well, proper variable (and often method) names would probably help, i'll agree on that ;)

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L178[07:05:02] <asie> g: ahaha

L179[07:05:09] <asie> Forge breaks less things than you think

L180[07:05:15] <asie> almost every major breakage was Mojang

L181[07:05:19] <g> I know

L182[07:05:21] <g> that's my point

L183[07:05:23] <asie> no

L184[07:05:25] <asie> it's hardly your point

L185[07:05:27] <asie> the obfuscation is worked around by MCP

L186[07:05:35] <g> No it's not

L187[07:05:38] <asie> MCP has access to Mojang's mapping you fool

L188[07:05:39] <g> quite a lot of things remain obfuscated

L189[07:05:40] <asie> since 1.6

L190[07:05:46] <asie> they use Mojang's mapping to remap their own mappings

L191[07:05:58] <asie> the reason things remain obfuscated is due to Mojang's lawyers not allowing MCP to use the mappings outright

L192[07:06:04] <asie> due to some fears about Minecraft's IP being less defensible in court

L193[07:06:14] <asie> and yes, I meant Mojang's, not Microsoft's - this has been the argument back in 2013...

L194[07:06:35] <asie> however, MCP's method of using Mojang's mappings is less effective than Cuchaz's heuristics

L195[07:06:44] <asie> MCP gives them about 60-70% function names ported on a large update

L196[07:06:50] <asie> Eureka gave 90%, without access to any secret/confidential info =)

L197[07:07:06] <asie> also, func_******_* also change less often than you'd think

L198[07:07:16] <asie> the obfuscated names are worse

L199[07:07:36] <asie> in other words, if mods only need a recompile, so does MCP, and thus so do mods.

L200[07:07:44] <asie> as they have access to mojang's mapping and use it to port and have been for a while now

L201[07:08:10] <asie> in other words, your point is pointless :D

L202[07:09:39] <asie> the big issue is that i still haven't gotten off my butt and made my own game

L203[07:09:45] <asie> instead maintaining a zombie

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L226[08:34:02] * vifino groans and snuggles up to Lizzy

L227[08:34:16] <vifino> Shuudoushi: I do not have a broken system. Trust me on that one.

L228[08:37:56] <Izaya> ohai vifino

L229[08:38:02] <vifino> Hey Izaya.

L230[08:38:10] <Izaya> how's stuff for you?

L231[08:38:42] <vifino> Quite fine. Though Mimiru's OpenFM still plays no sound on my systems. You?

L232[08:39:11] <Izaya> this weekend has gone on far too long and is far too sweet

L233[08:39:26] <vifino> hahaha

L234[08:39:41] <vifino> WAITWAITWAIT

L235[08:39:47] <Izaya> anyway I'm just making my browsing experience more fun

L236[08:39:53] <vifino> NVIDIA DRIVERS HAVE WAYLAND SUPPORT NOW?!?!!?

L237[08:39:55] <vifino> FUCK YES

L238[08:39:55] <Izaya> no more client side adblock, privoxy for the whole LAN

L239[08:39:57] <Izaya> wait what

L240[08:39:59] <Izaya> WHAT

L241[08:40:02] * Lizzy snuggles vifino

L242[08:40:23] <vifino> [ebuild U ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-364.12-r1 [361.28-r2] USE="-wayland%"

L243[08:40:33] * vifino kisses Lizzy all over

L244[08:40:42] <Izaya> "Nvidia 364.12 Linux Driver Out Now with Vulkan 1.0, Wayland, and Mir Support"

L245[08:40:44] <Izaya> interesting

L246[08:40:50] <Izaya> Vulkan is also interesting

L247[08:40:52] <vifino> Exactly.

L248[08:41:06] <vifino> Time to rebuild my system with wayland.

L249[08:41:22] <Izaya> OpenGL has sentimental value to me but Vulkan is certainly more sane

L250[08:42:09] <Izaya> sentimental isn't the right word

L251[08:42:11] <Izaya> anyway

L252[08:44:05] <vifino> I hope I won't break my system by converting to wayland, but oh well.

L253[08:45:00] <Izaya> it's always an adventure

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L256[08:50:36] <vifino> Portage is working for a long time, must mean I am almost good to go.

L257[08:50:39] <vifino> woot, I am!

L258[08:51:20] <vifino> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/7MkXosb0

L259[08:53:52] <vifino> Izaya: Also, KMS support! :D

L260[08:54:02] <Izaya> yay?

L261[08:54:05] <vifino> Yay!

L262[08:54:14] <vifino> Full resolution framebuffers, me thinks!

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L264[08:57:02] <vifino> Izaya: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/364.12/README/kms.html

L265[09:04:43] <cloakable> Oooo

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L268[09:05:39] <vifino> :O

L269[09:05:46] * vifino hugs it

L270[09:05:50] <cloakable> :D

L271[09:09:44] <Sangar> asie, since you got mcmp working in charset i have a question for you :P am i missing something, or is it impossible for a part that sits in the center slot and only "soft occupies" side ones (aka cable) to expose its capabilities reliably?

L272[09:10:29] <asie> Sangar: MCMP is supposed to take care of that for you

L273[09:10:39] <asie> it's supposed to take care of coverngs

L274[09:10:41] <asie> coverings

L275[09:10:46] <asie> and i think it works fairly well with freestanding wire so

L276[09:11:16] <Sangar> so how do i get it to return the capability for a center slotted part?

L277[09:11:49] <Sangar> because this never happens because face is never null: https://github.com/amadornes/MCMultiPart/blob/master/src/main/java/mcmultipart/capabilities/MultipartCapabilityHelper.java#L60

L278[09:12:05] <asie> wait

L279[09:12:08] <asie> he /still/ has not fixed it?

L280[09:12:13] <amadornes> eh?

L281[09:12:15] <Sangar> and this is unreliable because if there's any other part that's a capability provider (chisel and bits) that can early exit with false https://github.com/amadornes/MCMultiPart/blob/master/src/main/java/mcmultipart/capabilities/MultipartCapabilityHelper.java#L70

L282[09:12:16] <amadornes> I thought I did :/

L283[09:12:32] <asie> oh, right, that

L284[09:12:34] <asie> yeah, uh

L285[09:12:36] <asie> that.

L286[09:12:47] <Sangar> mind i'm still working on 1.8.9, not sure if that's fixed in 1.9

L287[09:13:10] <Sangar> ohai amadornes :3

L288[09:13:12] <amadornes> feel free to rewrite that class if needed... I wasn't quite sure how people would want it to behave

L289[09:13:19] <amadornes> heyo :3

L290[09:13:35] <Sangar> you mean make a pr?

L291[09:13:53] <Sangar> (because the multipart te uses that after all :P)

L292[09:14:19] <amadornes> yeah, if you want to make a PR with a completely new implementation of that class that makes more sense I'll pull it :P

L293[09:14:47] <Sangar> i *think* it's just a few tweaks (two i can think of right now). i'll try them and see how that goes then!

L294[09:15:02] <amadornes> btw, on a completely unrelated note: I'm working on Framez 3 :3

L295[09:15:08] <Sangar> weeee

L296[09:15:26] <amadornes> this time with animations, sounds and a crapton of upgrades :D

L297[09:15:40] <amadornes> and TiCon-esque frame customization :P

L298[09:15:58] <amadornes> you can make frankenframes now http://ss.amadornes.com/ama-1459088145-216 :D

L299[09:16:15] <Sangar> ohgod

L300[09:16:30] <Sangar> this will result in the most fancy frame quarries ever :P

L301[09:16:36] <amadornes> hehehe :P

L302[09:16:51] <amadornes> or the fanciest tunnel of server death ever

L303[09:17:02] <amadornes> because we're totally rebuilding that for BTM16.5

L304[09:17:02] <Sangar> hah

L305[09:17:15] <Sangar> looking forward to that ;)

L306[09:17:50] <amadornes> I'm making a completely new block "movement" API for it

L307[09:17:59] <amadornes> I don't like the fact that things stop every block/90º

L308[09:18:10] <amadornes> so part of the lag will be fixed :P

L309[09:19:08] <amadornes> I'm hoping MCMP will be in Forge by the time BTM16.5 happens

L310[09:19:14] <Sangar> just use a sub-world system and have arbitrary rotations :P should be simple enough, right ;)

L311[09:19:15] <amadornes> that way we won't have to worry about multiple multipart APIs :D

L312[09:19:25] <amadornes> that's exactly what I'm doing ;D

L313[09:19:30] <Sangar> oh my

L314[09:19:38] <amadornes> but it's fully recursive

L315[09:19:45] <amadornes> you can stack worlds inside eachother as deep as you want

L316[09:19:47] <Sangar> frames on frames? :O

L317[09:19:51] <amadornes> yup \o/

L318[09:19:55] <Sangar> ermgurd

L319[09:20:22] <amadornes> BTM16.5 is going to be fuuuuun :P

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L321[09:22:01] <amadornes> aaaaanyway... back to working on the one-click-reload-just-one-model-and-not-all-resources mod :D

L322[09:22:36] <amadornes> got blocks down, items and textures to go :P

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L325[09:24:17] <amadornes> for some reason MC can find item models inside the data storage but I can't >.<

L326[09:25:29] <Sangar> >_>

L327[09:25:46] <Sangar> it's magic!

L328[09:26:08] <Sangar> allright then, let's see if i just broke all the things...

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L330[09:36:20] <Sangar> gaaah

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L332[09:40:23] <Sangar> well, the good news is the capabilities work now. the bad new is somewhere along the way i broke rendering for my regular cables -.-

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L336[09:49:37] <vifino> So... I may have accidentally bought the.vodka.

L337[09:53:59] <g> what is it with you people and the infinite money to spend on useless domains? :P

L338[09:54:11] <vifino> https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/4c5ftd/i_was_sitting_next_to_this_really_hot_thai_girl/

L339[09:54:25] <vifino> g: It's an addiction.

L340[09:54:57] <Lucca> :^)

L341[09:54:59] <g> man, that's so boring

L342[09:55:00] <g> :P

L343[09:58:07] <cloakable> I have one domain xD

L344[10:00:56] <vifino> cloakab.le?

L345[10:01:54] <cloakable> fennec.org.uk :3

L346[10:02:57] <g> isn't org.uk supposed to be used by actual orgs?

L347[10:03:11] <cloakable> nah

L348[10:03:24] <g> and I'm guessing you're a furry? :P

L349[10:03:43] <g> ~~~domain psychology~~~

L350[10:04:25] <cloakable> *gasp*

L351[10:04:31] <g> lol

L352[10:04:40] <cloakable> yes :D

L353[10:05:05] <g> alright :P

L354[10:05:19] <vifino> g: domain psychology me: holy.party, i0i0.me, letsjust.chat, vifino.{cc,de,party}, wtfits.science and the.vodka

L355[10:05:43] <Stary2001> vifino: you missed tty.sh

L356[10:05:46] <vifino> Note: Pychopath is not a valid answer.

L357[10:05:50] <vifino> Stary2001: oh, lol

L358[10:05:53] <g> vifino: troll

L359[10:05:56] <vifino> i was just looking at my cloudflare

L360[10:05:57] <g> :P

L361[10:06:07] <vifino> g: Troll?

L362[10:06:09] <vifino> Me?

L363[10:06:12] <g> also a bit of a narcissist

L364[10:06:12] <vifino> Wat.

L365[10:06:13] <g> xD

L366[10:06:28] <g> Hey, I didn't say it works :P

L367[10:06:38] <Stary2001> me: stary2001.co.uk, 9net.org

L368[10:06:41] <Stary2001> so many domains, wow

L369[10:06:53] <g> I don't get why people want <username>.ext

L370[10:07:14] <Forecaster> vanity?

L371[10:07:15] <Stary2001> probably because you cant get g.*anything*

L372[10:07:18] <vifino> cause it's easy to remember when drunkenly trying to show off

L373[10:07:24] <g> I don't want g.anything

L374[10:07:24] <g> :P

L375[10:07:33] <g> my main domain is <whatever>.gserv.me

L376[10:07:34] <vifino> g.ay

L377[10:07:57] <vifino> hrm, g.el?

L378[10:07:58] <g> gserv.me just goes to my blog that I haven't updated since november

L379[10:08:48] <vifino> oh, yeah, i should probably make a blog post on my blog on how i switched to gentoo and praised lord RMS

L380[10:09:20] <vifino> or how i switched to gentoo and just did the shit i wanted to do.

L381[10:09:23] <vifino> \o/

L382[10:09:34] <g> I got bored of constantly moving between CMSes or relying on PHP in general so I just got a wordpress hosted thing

L383[10:09:39] <g> it was free anyway

L384[10:09:50] <vifino> ew

L385[10:10:12] <g> I don't have to update it so hey

L386[10:10:17] <g> no skin off my back

L387[10:10:41] <vifino> #makeyourownblogsoftware

L388[10:10:44] <vifino> should be a thing

L389[10:10:46] <g> I did that once

L390[10:10:50] <Mimiru> vifino, get me a method to reproduce your issue that doesn't involve using some esoteric ass linux distro, and I'll fix it.

L391[10:11:17] <vifino> Mimiru: You consider arch esoteric?

L392[10:11:53] <Mimiru> I consider arch to be a giant fucking pain in the ass.

L393[10:12:02] <KittyKath> a) Arch has 10% of all distros in its best days so yes b) I think she's referring to gentoo?

L394[10:12:34] <vifino> KittyKath: I had the same issue in both arch and gentoo.

L395[10:12:52] <KittyKath> Using Jack I assume?

L396[10:12:54] <vifino> Everything but openfm works.

L397[10:13:08] <vifino> Yes, but pulseaudio and alsa both work flawlessly on top of it.

L398[10:13:19] <Mimiru> And OpenFM works for me everywhere else...

L399[10:13:37] <KittyKath> Alsa on top of jack ....?

L400[10:13:44] <vifino> To be fair, I only used openfm in your pack, Mimiru.

L401[10:13:48] <vifino> KittyKath: Yes?

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L403[10:16:40] <gamax92> Mimiru: I'll also go test it sometime this morning,

L404[10:16:58] <gamax92> or now

L405[10:17:12] <Mimiru> gamax92, it would be appreciated

L406[10:17:40] <Mimiru> I mean... the audio playback is pretty straight forward... https://git.io/vVf9Y

L407[10:24:22] <Mimiru> I create a new output device at 50, open it at 53, then grab and decode frames at 74, and write the output to the device at 134 to 143

L408[10:25:11] <gamax92> Mimiru: btw theres a typo on your projects page

L409[10:25:18] <gamax92> "fm = components.openfm_radio" components should be component

L410[10:25:45] * Mimiru whistles

L411[10:25:50] <Mimiru> I have no idea what you're talking about

L412[10:25:55] <Mimiru> fm = component.openfm_radio :p

L413[10:25:59] <Mimiru> (Thanks)

L414[10:26:03] <gamax92> Mimiru: anyway, it failed but I have a stacktrace

L415[10:26:21] <Mimiru> K

L416[10:26:22] <gamax92> oh ... let me get rid of LuaJ first >_>

L417[10:26:42] <Mimiru> Wait.... are there Natives for Arch/Gentoo?

L418[10:26:50] <KittyKath> TIL OpenLDAP assumes AES256 is just double as secure as AES128. *sigh*

L419[10:26:56] <vifino> of course.

L420[10:26:59] <Mimiru> I wonder if it's an issue with interaction between OFM and LuaJ in that case..

L421[10:27:03] <Mimiru> Ahh,

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L423[10:27:34] <KittyKath> o/ BearishMushroom

L424[10:27:57] <gamax92> Mimiru: it's playing on LuaC

L425[10:28:12] <gamax92> (It also caused the computer to hang and blue screen for too long without yielding)

L426[10:28:13] <BearishMushroom> o/ KittyKath

L427[10:28:19] <vifino> Amazing math skills openldap has, KittyKath.

L428[10:28:41] <KittyKath> vifino: It's not about math, its about knowing crypto :v

L429[10:29:08] <vifino> KittyKath: It's about knowing how square root works*

L430[10:29:18] <KittyKath> Uhm no.

L431[10:29:21] <vifino> er

L432[10:29:30] <vifino> ^something

L433[10:29:33] <vifino> i dont words

L434[10:29:34] <gamax92> vifino: shush you're making yourself look bad :P

L435[10:29:35] <KittyKath> AES256 have completely different attack vectors from AES128.

L436[10:29:52] <KittyKath> You break them differently. Despite the very basic algorithm being similar.

L437[10:29:55] <vifino> gamax92: not much more than usual.

L438[10:30:14] <KittyKath> AES256 is not twice as secure as AES256. More like 1.4 or something like that.

L439[10:30:28] <KittyKath> When you want some thing twice as secure as AES128 use Serpent.

L440[10:30:31] <Mimiru> gamax92, the too long without yielding thing should only happen if it takes too long to start the stream... I've only had it happen a couple of times, and never when I can debug it

L441[10:31:02] <gamax92> when you call setUrl it'll fill the text box on the radio, right?

L442[10:31:16] <Mimiru> Assuming it's valid, yes

L443[10:31:21] <gamax92> It entirely fails to on LuaJ

L444[10:31:28] * gamax92 investigates

L445[10:31:47] <gamax92> oh I'm also not sure I have the latest LuaJ patch, probably not.

L446[10:31:59] <Mimiru> Ok, see THAT I can look into.... "It doesn't work" doesn't help much.

L447[10:33:09] <gamax92> Mimiru: well it just sounds like a LuaJ issue but if you find anything, lemme know :3

L448[10:34:04] <Mimiru> Oh right... luaj isn't an option unless you in the config

L449[10:34:36] <gamax92> Yeah, I in the config, helps when you can have two computers with one being LuaJ for testing bugs

L450[10:34:40] <Mimiru> enable*

L451[10:34:46] <gamax92> :P

L452[10:35:26] <Mimiru> I could have sworn there was a way to have LuaJ be one of the options when you shift click a CPU

L453[10:35:30] <Mimiru> instead of just forcing it

L454[10:35:50] <Mimiru> registerLuaJArchitecture=false

L455[10:35:51] <Mimiru> There it is

L456[10:35:52] <Mimiru> lol

L457[10:36:14] <gamax92> yeah, still not working with latest patches.

L458[10:36:34] <vifino> oh, great, apparently there is now a libicu missmatch on my system, one loaded, one compiled

L459[10:36:46] <vifino> minecraft displays weird letters \o/

L460[10:37:13] <Mimiru> gamax92, is there any way to know in my component which arch is being used...?

L461[10:37:18] <KittyKath> What kind of text encoding does MC use btw? Is it latin1 or what?

L462[10:38:05] <Mimiru> "no bootable medium found"

L463[10:38:08] <Mimiru> what the actual fuck

L464[10:38:26] <Mimiru> [10:37:45] [OpenComputers-Computer-1/WARN] [OpenComputers]: Kernel returned unexpected results. ¬_¬

L465[10:38:55] <Mimiru> Boots fine in Lua 5.3

L466[10:38:59] <Mimiru> but LuaJ won't boot at all

L467[10:39:15] <Mimiru> and 5.2..

L468[10:39:17] <gamax92> Mimiru: I remember getting something like that ...

L469[10:39:41] <gamax92> think I know what it was though ... brbr

L470[10:39:58] <gamax92> err wait

L471[10:40:02] <gamax92> Mimiru: what oc version you using

L472[10:40:18] <Mimiru> 1.5.22.46-dev

L473[10:41:06] <gamax92> I want to say that was before the userdata issue ...

L474[10:41:55] <gamax92> I guess LuaJ was broken even then.

L475[10:42:06] <gamax92> Mimiru: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/8d0db7b6290c55ee97ba37170dee6326882a0d51

L476[10:42:37] <Mimiru> So... 1.6+?

L477[10:42:56] <gamax92> Thats what I was testing in

L478[10:43:23] <Mimiru> k... updating to 1.6 in dev

L479[10:45:49] <Mimiru> 1.6.0.885

L480[10:46:10] <gamax92> Mimiru: what it still doesn't boot?

L481[10:46:32] <Mimiru> No idea yet

L482[10:46:33] <Mimiru> :P

L483[10:46:50] <gamax92> It's probably going to need an OpenOS upgrade just so you know

L484[10:47:03] <Mimiru> Yeah booted up fine

L485[10:47:07] <gamax92> well then

L486[10:48:07] <Mimiru> tab complete is broken... going to reinstall :P

L487[10:48:54] <Mimiru> Still broken...

L488[10:49:46] <Mimiru> gamax92, http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-03-27_10-49-30.png

L489[10:49:56] <Mimiru> that was a fresh radio without nothing set

L490[10:50:05] <Mimiru> called setURL and.. it's there

L491[10:50:08] <gamax92> huh.

L492[10:50:27] <gamax92> Mimiru: and sure it's on LuaJ?

L493[10:51:03] <gamax92> >_> right I also have to go update OC for some stuff.

L494[10:52:03] <Mimiru> gam pulled the APU cycled through to luaj

L495[10:52:07] <Mimiru> gamax92*

L496[10:52:15] <Mimiru> also why is tab complete broken in the lua shell..?

L497[10:52:23] <gamax92> Because payonel

L498[10:52:28] <Mimiru> ._.

L499[10:52:45] <Mimiru> Is there anything I can do to make sure I'm on LuaJ?

L500[10:52:56] <gamax92> computer.getArchitecture or something like that.

L501[10:53:12] <Mimiru> "LuaJ"

L502[10:53:17] <gamax92> alright

L503[10:54:03] <Sangar> it's broken the interpreter? D: well then, let's indeed collectively yell at payonel :X

L504[10:54:34] <fingercomp> in /lib/term.lua: before line 483 insert "if #c ~= 0 then". Also insert "end" before "end --[[@delayloaded-end@]]" to close "if"

L505[10:54:37] <Mimiru> Yep

L506[10:55:04] <gamax92> Russians!

L507[10:56:50] <Mimiru> Fuuuun.... http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-03-27_10-56-36.png

L508[10:58:12] <Mimiru> fingercomp, http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-03-27_10-57-50.png did as you said, no change

L509[10:58:34] <fingercomp> save and reboot

L510[10:59:01] <Mimiru> I had

L511[10:59:45] <Mimiru> it works at shell

L512[10:59:58] <Mimiru> but not in the lua interpreter

L513[11:00:48] <Mimiru> I wish there was an easy way to sync my Tampermoney scripts...

L514[11:01:22] <gamax92> ehh how is tab broken?

L515[11:01:44] <Mimiru> fm = comp[tab] does nothing

L516[11:01:49] <Mimiru> fm.set[tab] does nothing

L517[11:02:00] <gamax92> oh, doing nothing, was worried about crashes

L518[11:03:16] <Mimiru> I *REALLY* wish I could figure out how to extract song data from the streams

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L520[11:11:05] <g> Mimiru, streams?

L521[11:11:36] <Mimiru> g music streams

L522[11:11:52] <Mimiru> like what OpenFM plays, mp3/ogg files/streams

L523[11:12:19] <g> well, anything icecast-ish allows you to send a header in your request

L524[11:12:28] <g> which then adds metadata to the stream at the start

L525[11:12:35] <gamax92> g: Mimiru means from a client point of view

L526[11:12:44] <g> yes, I'm talking from a client point of view

L527[11:12:50] <gamax92> no you arent

L528[11:12:53] <g> yes I am

L529[11:12:58] <g> you have no idea what I'm talking about gamax

L530[11:13:16] <Mimiru> Yeah, the client sends dtaat in the header requesting the metadata be returned with the stream

L531[11:13:16] <gamax92> nothing you just said is helpful to understanding with the api's Mimiru is using on how to extract the stream metadata

L532[11:13:33] <g> gamax92, how about you allow Mimiru to actually say what's helpful to her?

L533[11:13:39] <Mimiru> But like gamax92 said, I don't know how to extract said metadata with the libs I have

L534[11:13:43] <gamax92> ^

L535[11:13:44] <g> I was getting to that

L536[11:14:16] <gamax92> Gah, sorry.

L537[11:14:21] <g> If you can get at the http response, as in, the headers, there's, eg, icy-metaint in there

L538[11:14:25] <g> you might do something like this

L539[11:14:26] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/March/firefox_2016-03-27_17-14-21.png

L540[11:14:32] <g> (python)

L541[11:15:08] <g> brb, need to get things out of the oven

L542[11:15:20] <gamax92> I wish my anger would stop flaring like that.

L543[11:18:05] * Mimiru hugs gamax92

L544[11:18:12] <Mimiru> I know those feels...

L545[11:21:02] <Lizzy> ¬_¬ i think i disabled the trackpad on my laptop when in windows now i can't re-enable it on linux ¬_¬

L546[11:22:44] <gamax92> Mimiru: anyway LuaJ's working fine here now

L547[11:22:59] <gamax92> grabbed latest OC which has the string fix

L548[11:25:15] *** Gyro_ is now known as Gyro

L549[11:25:56] <Mimiru> K.. OpenFM can work fine without OC.. though

L550[11:26:39] <Mimiru> So if it's not working for vifino there has to be another reason, but I'm using a pretty system agnostic method of setting up the audio output

L551[11:27:01] * Lizzy is waiting for the PCL pack to download on her laptop so she can test it there (Arch)

L552[11:27:23] <Mimiru> What distro are you on gamax92?

L553[11:27:27] <gamax92> Ubuntu

L554[11:27:43] <Mimiru> Same ATM, I didn't have my Fedora USB handy... or at all

L555[11:27:49] <Mimiru> fucking lost a 64gb USB stick

L556[11:27:54] <vifino> :/

L557[11:28:15] * gamax92 plays two streams at once, enjoys the effect the echo has

L558[11:29:42] <Lizzy> man my desk is dusty

L559[11:31:23] <Lizzy> brb,. idnner

L560[11:31:25] <Lizzy> *dinner

L561[11:31:25] <Inari> are there any languages taht attempt to give the user more control over caching while still allowing to code in the usual design patterns?

L562[11:31:58] <Forecaster> how would I make a server always use the remote interface as the primary screen/keyboard?

L563[11:32:13] <Forecaster> currently it likes to default to my intended status screen

L564[11:32:50] <rashy> erm ... I think it's possible to set the address of the primary device - can't remember how

L565[11:33:13] <KittyKath> Inari: If you mean CPU caching, C :P

L566[11:33:47] <Inari> im not sure C applies as it isnt a oop lang xD

L567[11:34:18] <KittyKath> You said the "usual" design patterns. You never specified OOP.

L568[11:34:29] <Inari> well most of them seem to be oop to some degree :P

L569[11:34:38] <Inari> how does C allow to specify caching?

L570[11:34:43] <rashy> Forecaster, component.setPrimary is the command you want.

L571[11:35:01] <KittyKath> "Usual" either means the oldest ones (FORTRAN is not OOP) or the most used ones (Given that C is still one of the most used languages out there...)

L572[11:35:24] <KittyKath> Inari: C allows for just about every optimization possible. Bare maybe multiple entry points.

L573[11:35:53] <Inari> sure.. well i mostly meant without making your code look like a patchwork hackjob xD

L574[11:36:03] <KittyKath> Well, that won't happen with C.

L575[11:36:05] <rashy> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:component

L576[11:36:47] <Inari> KittyKath: so yeah, OOP design patterns i guess :p gang of four and so on

L577[11:37:07] <KittyKath> Inari: OOP is notoriously bad when it comes to caching. C++ would still work though.

L578[11:37:17] <Inari> KittyKath: hence im wondering if thers any language that allows to have caching optimisation while using oop design pattenrs

L579[11:38:16] <Inari> http://pastebin.com/SW7bEgjF like here, the second way is apparently better for caching and performance, buit its just super ugly to look at and work with imo

L580[11:38:26] <KittyKath> If you're ready to go a bit more on untested territory and don't strictly *require* oop (because, let's be honest; OOP is bad), then you could try out Rust. Since 90% of its abstractions are zero-cost you could dig into the source and check out how it generates code and then optimize for caching speed.

L581[11:39:04] <Inari> i'd disagree on it being bad haha

L582[11:41:13] <KittyKath> Inari: Sure, to each their own :P However, optimized code always tends to look bad. But it really comes down to maintainability vs speed. Even if a language allowed for better cache management you'd still have to have a great understanding of how CPU and CPU caching works before you could really use it. And at that point you'll be able to write fast code in any language and get used to its looks.

L583[11:41:57] <Inari> sure, but its ugly code even fi you're used to it being ugly :P

L584[11:42:57] <Inari> so ideally you should bea ble to write it like the frist, but indicate in your loop wehre you call update on all of them and/or in the objects themselves how caching should be performed

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L587[11:45:54] <KittyKath> Inari: I don't know of a language that does that. But then again I don't think there is a huge demand for it. Performance critical code tends to exist in a walled garden where no abstraction is allowed that might introduce cost.

L588[11:46:35] <Inari> Eh, even code that isnt "critical" would benefit from running better

L589[11:46:56] <KittyKath> And for that there exists the -O0 flag on every modern compiler :P

L590[11:47:06] <Mimiru> lol... shit

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L592[11:47:15] <Mimiru> adding the Icy-MetaData header breaks playback

L593[11:47:23] <Mimiru> cause it tries to decode the metadata as musi

L594[11:47:28] <Mimiru> music*

L595[11:48:16] <Inari> KittyKath: ?

L596[11:48:18] <KittyKath> Inari: cost-benefit and all that jazz. Unless the time put into optimizing code to that level pays off nobody will optimize to that level.

L597[11:48:34] <Inari> it pays off, just not to the right people

L598[11:48:34] <Inari> :P

L599[11:48:46] <KittyKath> Adding a optimization flag that reduces size already helps enormously with caching and the cost of that is basically zero.

L600[11:49:27] <KittyKath> It needs to pay of to the developer or company behind the developer. Price of optimization is huge

L601[11:49:34] <Inari> sadly

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L603[11:49:53] <KittyKath> And modern computers are so fast that that optimization is only really noticeable in really really hot code.

L604[11:50:27] <Kodos> Deja Vu

L605[11:50:32] <Inari> or you know, stuff coudll just overall run better with being able to execute more programs

L606[11:51:05] <KittyKath> Inari: Cache optimization does not help in the general case.

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L608[11:51:30] <Inari> why not?

L609[11:51:39] <Inari> a lot of software does stuff like "do X to a bunch of Y"

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L611[11:52:33] <KittyKath> Yeah but for cache optimizations to shine it needs to be "Do X with sequential memory access to Y area a few billion times for a few hours straigt" Context switches will most likely invalidate cache completely.

L612[11:52:38] <Lizzy> and back

L613[11:53:43] <Inari> KittyKath: Im kind of doubting anything would do that :P

L614[11:53:48] <KittyKath> Unless that is the case you're better of optimizing in different areas like allocation count, size of allocated mem, reducing redundant computations or simply switching from an interpreted language to a compiled one.

L615[11:54:18] <Lizzy> hmm, need to figure out a way to make the technic launcher start mc wrapped in optirun

L616[11:54:29] <KittyKath> Inari: Well of course stuff like that happens. Banking industries uses crazy optimization. Every business which has dedicated servers for one specific job has that issue.

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L618[11:54:55] <KittyKath> Investment Banking that is. General banking does not care.

L619[11:55:05] <Inari> sure but the example was about games haha

L620[11:55:55] <vifino> Lizzy: just start the technic launcher in optirun? it doesn't make that much of a different, me thinks

L621[11:56:01] <KittyKath> Well yeah rest assured that caching is generally not a problem. Unless your game is CPU-bound work on your shaders first. (Assuming not an online game where you're working on the server. If you are problems are different of course)

L622[11:56:23] <Inari> well this guy says otherwise :p

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L624[11:57:09] <Inari> guess it ws mostly about console games so i guess its even more about squeezing out drops haha

L625[11:57:54] <Lizzy> hmm, okay. Arch on my laptop can't play OpenFM either....

L626[11:57:56] <KittyKath> Inari: Well sorry to be blunt but I could not care less about what a random dude on the internet says. If you are making a game, figure out what your problems are before you try to solve them. If your problem is truly down to the cache and you optimized every other part of the game to the max, then care about cache hits and cache misses.

L627[11:58:27] <Inari> well hes engine director and insomniac games :f

L628[11:58:51] <Lizzy> Mimiru, do you got virtualbox?

L629[11:59:13] <KittyKath> And he says "Caching is the biggest issue you will have when making a game"? Because if so he's a bit removed from the reality. :/

L630[11:59:49] <KittyKath> He probably means caching is one of the *hardest* issues with modern (AAA) games. Because that is true.

L631[11:59:58] <Inari> well from what i gathered.. L2 cache miss means very slow loading from RAM, bad for game performance

L632[12:00:19] <KittyKath> yeah but unless your game is CPU-bound (again) that won't matter.

L633[12:00:44] <KittyKath> And 99% of modern AAA games are GPU-bound instead.

L634[12:01:11] <Inari> sounds like it still uses the CPU better regardless xD :p

L635[12:01:16] <KittyKath> Inari: So what?

L636[12:01:25] <Inari> its preferable that a game uses less of my CPU

L637[12:01:38] <KittyKath> Optimizing without benefit is huge cost with 0 benefit. Awesome.

L638[12:02:01] <Inari> if you call using less of someones CPu so its free to do other tasks no benefit, sure

L639[12:03:04] <Mimiru> Lizzy, yes, but I'm not dealing with the clusterfuck of Arch. It's been a few years since I tried to use it, and that experience has turned me off to using it for good.

L640[12:03:08] <KittyKath> Inari: They are playing a game! Its not like they are planning on playing a game and rendering a video in the background while also compiling with -O3! And if they *are*, they *know* they need a crazy CPU.

L641[12:03:22] <Inari> maybe they are

L642[12:03:22] <Inari> :p

L643[12:03:30] <Lizzy> Mimiru, k, i could give you a pre-configured VM :)

L644[12:03:31] <KittyKath> If a CPU is at 50% or at 60% usage DOES NOT MATTER in reality.

L645[12:04:00] <KittyKath> Inari: Then they have a good CPU. Or know how to prioritize those tasks. Or are plain stupid. Idk.

L646[12:04:20] <Mimiru> If you do that I'll look into the issue.

L647[12:04:21] <Inari> KittyKath: it should matter though ^^"

L648[12:04:32] <KittyKath> Inari: Why? Because go green and use less energy?

L649[12:04:38] <Lizzy> Mimiru, i'll set one up a bit later/tomorrow

L650[12:04:44] <Lizzy> then send it to you

L651[12:04:48] <Inari> maybe, but theres no reason to use more if you dont have to

L652[12:05:04] <KittyKath> FFS 60% usage means the CPU has 40% nothing to all the time. Lets increase that to 60% of the time because reasons!

L653[12:05:31] <KittyKath> Inari: It is incredible tedious and takes time off more important tasks for the developer like fixing bugs. There. Reason.

L654[12:05:46] <Mimiru> Thanks

L655[12:06:37] <KittyKath> Inari: Do you rather have a really nice game that uses 60% of your CPU but has few bugs or an incredible buggy game that crashes randomly but only uses 50% of your CPU? And which one do you think sells better? Because 10% optimization on the CPU is what you are looking at really.

L656[12:07:16] <KittyKath> CPUs switch tasks while waiting on the RAM. Its not 1980 anymore, CPUs become more and more intellingent in that regard.

L657[12:08:56] <KittyKath> All the crazy optimizations Intel put in their CPUs have benefits of under 1%. Optimizing CPUs is not worth your time unless you are intel. Optimizing Caches is not worth it as game developer. Inari, get real D:<

L658[12:09:29] <Inari> *shrug* maybe :P just stll sounds like my PC could do a whoel lot more busywork if things were written in a more optimised way :p and hence it would be nice for languages that allows such things to be hinted to the compiler

L659[12:09:41] <Inari> compilers also are terrible at understand certain things :<

L660[12:10:10] <KittyKath> Inari: Please go check how much usage your CPU has currently. And then go have a look how many times it hits 100% and what are you doing at that time.

L661[12:11:04] <Inari> minecraft is pretty horrible in terms of cpu usage xD

L662[12:11:08] <KittyKath> Yes, and one thing compiler are not terrible at understanding is how to optimize programs. Believe me, they are way smarter at that than you or I or anybody else in this channel could ever dream to be.

L663[12:11:19] <Inari> yeah, no

L664[12:11:21] <KittyKath> Inari: Yeah, there is nothing about MC code that is good. Cache is the least of their worries.

L665[12:12:47] <KittyKath> Inari: No, really. Please have a look at what crazy kinds of optimizations the Intel compiler or the LLVM can do. They understand CPUs way better than you or I. Because they are written by people who did optimization for 40 years straight.

L666[12:13:21] <Inari> well i didnt look at llvm/intel, i think the examples were clang and msvc, clang being a bit better but still not great

L667[12:13:27] <KittyKath> Clang is LLVM.

L668[12:13:31] <Inari> ah

L669[12:13:32] <Inari> :p

L670[12:13:59] <KittyKath> Compiler performance is a completely different issue too.

L671[12:14:17] <Inari> sure, its in the same domain thouhg: making programs run better haha

L672[12:14:36] <KittyKath> Making a program "go fast" is way more than caches. It is mostly caches nowadays but only if you have fixed all the other performance hogs first.

L673[12:14:59] <Forecaster> it starts printing stuff into the remote interface during boot, but then switches to the screen D:<

L674[12:15:23] <Inari> exactly

L675[12:15:29] <Inari> but its part of the whole :p

L676[12:15:33] <KittyKath> Inari: Have you fixed all other hogs first?

L677[12:15:57] <Inari> at some point you will ahve

L678[12:16:25] <KittyKath> And at that point you can start care about cache optimizations. And you stop caring about ugly code because everything is ugly code already.

L679[12:16:43] <Inari> or you could start with wanting non-ugly code while still making it performant :p

L680[12:16:47] <Inari> hence the questiona bout languages

L681[12:16:47] <KittyKath> Rust

L682[12:17:13] <KittyKath> Will get you 90% of the way. The other 10% are 90% of the work and completely written in ASM.

L683[12:18:31] <KittyKath> And no, those 10% can't be put in a different language. They are specifically optimized for one CPU type.

L684[12:19:57] <Inari> like this (contrived example but still) http://akari.in/pinky_wgx6B becomes a huge something :P http://akari.in/pinky_Sbo8H if you do http://akari.in/pinky_oAC2Q then however it understands: http://akari.in/pinky_2QMsy ... anyway :P

L685[12:20:57] <Inari> i guess i mostly dislike that the language doesnt make such things more intricate

L686[12:21:02] <Inari> well

L687[12:21:07] <Inari> integrated i guess is the right wortd

L688[12:21:08] <Inari> :p

L689[12:21:52] <KittyKath> Inari: a) that is not caching issue per se. b) You are seriously underestimating how hard optimizations are. If you want perfectly optimized code all the time, write optimized ASM all the time.

L690[12:24:01] <Inari> a) as said, its not caching, it the same domain of "making things run better" :P

L691[12:24:33] <gamax92> Mimiru: yeah, the icecast metadata will just periodically dump itself in the middle of your stream

L692[12:24:33] <Inari> b) it doesnt matter what im estimating, the language should still allow some tweaks without making your code frankensteins monster

L693[12:24:39] <gamax92> Mimiru: btw, what libraries are you using?

L694[12:24:48] <KittyKath> Inari: Yes, but no language without the fine grained control that ASM has can provide that. And then you are just writing ASM.

L695[12:24:52] <Mimiru> Yeah, I know, just working out how to skip the meta and keep the stream data

L696[12:25:10] <Inari> a context-hinting extension of a language could do that

L697[12:25:13] <Inari> tell the compiler the context

L698[12:25:17] <Inari> since it cant seem to udnerstand it

L699[12:25:18] <KittyKath> No, not to the extend of ASM.

L700[12:25:20] <KittyKath> Not possible

L701[12:25:35] <KittyKath> Unless it is asm. Like __asm__() or asm!()

L702[12:25:43] <Mimiru> gamax92, javazoom, javax, and mp3 and ogg SPIs, I also use the okhttpclient because the built in java shit really didn't like the ICY 200 OK reply

L703[12:27:27] <Mimiru> Meh, this is all moot anyway, as the streams only ever run client side, and to DISPLAY the meta the stream would have to be server side.

L704[12:28:06] <gamax92> that's true ...

L705[12:28:37] <Mimiru> Only option there is to play the stream server side, and not actually output any sound...

L706[12:28:44] <Mimiru> which doesn't seem like a good idea

L707[12:29:25] <Mimiru> Running every stream on the server constantly would eat bandwidth

L708[12:30:46] <gamax92> Mimiru: it's also posssible to just stream up to a ICY chunk

L709[12:31:45] <gamax92> since sadly iirc the metadata comes after the first audio chunk but they're usually only like a few KB

L710[12:32:21] <Mimiru> yeah.. but that means having to keep opening and closing the stream to get the chunk data... which really isn't that great of a solution either

L711[12:35:48] <Inari> KittyKath: doesnt hav eto be to the extend of asm

L712[12:38:20] <KittyKath> Inari: Must if you want to have the control you apparently do.

L713[12:40:59] <S3_> OH WOW

L714[12:41:04] <S3_> I think Freenode is getting pounded

L715[12:41:19] <S3_> my bouncer can't connect to like any of the servers and when I connect from here it lags like a bitch

L716[12:41:25] <S3_> on their end

L717[12:41:36] <S3_> I dunno why I am surprised though

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L719[12:41:48] <LuMistry> Greetings

L720[12:41:52] <rashy> yello

L721[12:42:06] <S3_> 'Time to set up a dedicated network for realtime blackhole

L722[12:42:10] <S3_> :P

L723[12:42:27] <S3_> If they're getting hit with ddos that hard..

L724[12:43:11] <S3_> wtf?

L725[12:43:17] <S3_> http://www.digitalattackmap.com/#anim=1&color=0&country=ALL&list=0&time=16887&view=map

L726[12:43:35] <S3_> is it just me, or is that france..

L727[12:43:47] <S3_> maybe OVH is having issues..

L728[12:44:22] <rashy> wow, all DDoS's are coming from brazil. time to nuke brazil.

L729[12:44:34] <rashy> (I kids)

L730[12:45:28] <S3_> ...

L731[12:45:40] <S3_> this whip cream on the pie I brought home

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L733[12:45:44] <S3_> it's LOADED WITH BURBON!

L734[12:45:48] <S3_> I can taste it

L735[12:46:14] <S3_> bourbon*

L736[12:46:47] <gamax92> I do want to figure out why engrampa has a fake path when viewing zip files

L737[12:47:57] <S3_> wut

L738[12:48:01] <S3_> engrampa?

L739[12:48:23] <S3_> interesting, so mate has its' own Archiver now?

L740[12:48:38] <S3_> I used mate once back when it was like version 0.0 :P

L741[12:48:49] <gamax92> MATE just took all of GNOME 2's tools and renamed them

L742[12:49:05] <S3_> I dunno

L743[12:49:20] <S3_> when I looked into the project their goal was to introduce a gnome port that didn't patch anything

L744[12:49:43] <S3_> has that changed?

L745[12:49:48] <gamax92> S3_: Engrampa is a fork of File Roller >_>

L746[12:50:03] <S3_> what I mean

L747[12:50:14] <S3_> is that gnome patches wget and everything

L748[12:50:17] <S3_> and keeps the original name

L749[12:50:21] <gamax92> oh I dunno

L750[12:50:29] <S3_> so when I removed gnome back in like linux 2.4 on slackware

L751[12:50:35] <S3_> it uninstalled the entire base system almost

L752[12:50:36] <S3_> XD

L753[12:50:41] <gamax92> heh

L754[12:51:19] <S3_> people who used gnome based systems like ubuntu feisty fawn at the time didn't have the issue because well, it came with gnome

L755[12:51:24] <S3_> but slackware was independent

L756[12:52:04] <S3_> and somebody from the gnome project just contacted me the other day

L757[12:52:16] <S3_> asked if I could write a C patch for packagekit so that it does md5 sum checks on downloaded packages

L758[12:52:21] <S3_> ...

L759[12:53:10] <S3_> Being an understanding person for a request like that my response was ironically, "Why the hell doesn't it do that in the first place?

L760[12:53:37] <S3_> or any checksums

L761[12:53:56] <S3_> gamax92: By the way I was a troll the other day

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L763[12:54:14] <S3_> I went into ##archlinux or whatever and asked how to install Arch without systemd

L764[12:54:20] <S3_> :>

L765[12:56:09] <gamax92> I'm not up to date about the whole systemd controversy

L766[12:57:34] <S3_> gamax92: well, besides the fact that systemd systems by default mount your uefi firmware off the chip as rw so you can brick your system if you do rm -rf /...

L767[12:57:41] <S3_> right now

L768[12:57:55] <S3_> unless you're crazy and want to desolder the chip and reprogram it

L769[12:58:17] <S3_> If I ever design a motherboard. I will expose a JTAG header.

L770[12:58:28] <S3_> I will see to it

L771[12:59:02] <S3_> I'm pretty sure modern intel / amd chips support JTAG now because of the companies are now so closely tied to FPGAs

L772[13:01:48] <S3_> gamax92: I'm trying to figure out wether or not I should use a void pointer and make all nodes exactly the same in my database, or to make it so that the scalar nodes are always one level lower (much more nodes in large databases)

L773[13:02:00] <S3_> downside to the first is that the nodes are larger

L774[13:02:01] <gamax92> I'm not a database person

L775[13:02:21] <S3_> well it's just a hash tree

L776[13:02:24] <S3_> in C

L777[13:02:41] <S3_> I decided all nodes can either point to an array, a hash, or a scalar

L778[13:02:48] <S3_> scalar could be a string or a number

L779[13:07:35] <Forecaster> hm, how do I yeld in a loop to avoid erroring?

L780[13:10:35] <Forecaster> ah nevermind

L781[13:10:38] <Inari> haha

L782[13:18:12] <S3_> Forecaster: you mean how do you not busywait?

L783[13:19:44] <Forecaster> I just want a loop continusly running doing things

L784[13:19:54] <Forecaster> but it seems a sleep was enough

L785[13:20:12] <Forecaster> but now I need to make it loop while remaining interruptable

L786[13:21:01] <Forecaster> it doesn't seem like a timer sends a signal

L787[13:21:39] <S3_> event polling!

L788[13:22:05] <Forecaster> ?

L789[13:28:52] <Forecaster> that doesn't tell me much unfortunately

L790[13:32:16] <Forecaster> I expected the timer to trigger an event

L791[13:32:27] <Forecaster> is there a way to periodically cause an event without any input?

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L794[13:37:51] <Forecaster> I'd really like to be able to close the program without rebooting the computer

L795[13:40:13] <Antheus> Happy Easter btw

L796[13:41:29] <Forecaster> it's not unless I can get started on this program >:

L797[13:41:54] <rashy> if possible, code an exit condition into the loop

L798[13:42:19] <rashy> that would depend on what the loop is doing though

L799[13:42:23] <Forecaster> that's easy I just listen for the interrupted event

L800[13:42:36] <Forecaster> but I still need it to run continously

L801[13:42:45] <Forecaster> I can't have it stop and wait for the next interrupt

L802[13:43:15] <Forecaster> and the program itself wont have any exit conditions

L803[13:43:35] <Forecaster> oh wait

L804[13:43:37] <Forecaster> duh

L805[13:43:44] <Forecaster> I just have to set a timeout on the pull

L806[13:44:02] <Forecaster> then it'll wait for an interrupt, and if there isn't one it'll run another loop

L807[13:46:22] <Forecaster> perfect

L808[13:46:30] <Forecaster> right in front of my face the entire time :P

L809[13:46:46] <Forecaster> now to design the actual program

L810[13:51:39] <Forecaster> dammit

L811[13:51:55] <Forecaster> what was the function to expand an address?

L812[13:52:13] <fingercomp> component.get

L813[13:52:26] <Forecaster> right, thanks

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L820[15:30:17] <Vexatos> #tell DeanIsaKitty god damnit you derp

L821[15:30:40] <Vexatos> vifino, ;_;

L822[15:30:42] <Vexatos> What have you done

L823[15:31:08] <KittyKath> Vexatos: %tell and fuck you too =.=

L824[15:31:31] <Vexatos> KittyKath, y u no GOD DAMN READ ONE OF THE TEN OTHER ISSUES BEFORE POSTING AN ISSUE

L825[15:31:39] <Vexatos> Seriously

L826[15:31:41] <Vexatos> PLEASE

L827[15:31:43] <Vexatos> read. closed. issues.

L828[15:31:47] <Vexatos> github search exists+

L829[15:31:49] <Vexatos> :|

L830[15:31:59] <KittyKath> Nah, too lazy

L831[15:33:21] <vifino> Vexatos: What have I done?

L832[15:33:30] <vifino> WHAT HAVE I DONE?!

L833[15:33:33] <Vexatos> vifino, the nyan cat summoning altar

L834[15:33:54] <vifino> Vexatos: Yes.

L835[15:34:08] <vifino> It was successful, if you are interested.

L836[15:35:04] <Vexatos> KittyKath, there

L837[15:35:37] <KittyKath> Vexatos: Also the other 14 open issues have nothing to do with Computronics & ExU. And the last issue on Extra Utilities is from 2014. Sorry I don't consider that current?

L838[15:35:54] <Vexatos> KittyKath, the "like 10 issues with the exact same crash"

L839[15:36:11] <Vexatos> KittyKath, exactly. It has never been fixed on the ExU side

L840[15:36:25] <Vexatos> Now you see how bad RWTema is at bug fixing

L841[15:37:49] <KittyKath> Vexatos: 10 other issue? Where? on what repo? And while we're at it; how about an open issue with a wontfix? So other people can see it? Or a note in the readme? Or a note on your wiki? How was I supposed to know?

L842[15:38:08] <Vexatos> KittyKath, I was exaggerating, it's 4

L843[15:38:15] <Vexatos> 5 including the one on the ExU repo

L844[15:38:20] <Vexatos> I linked them on your issue

L845[15:38:39] <KittyKath> FFS even a sie told me to report it to you >:I NOt even an ex-dev knows its still an issue how am I suppoused to??

L846[15:38:54] <Vexatos> KittyKath, because it's common sense to skim through issues before posting one ;_;

L847[15:39:02] <Vexatos> Because asie quit before it occured

L848[15:39:10] <KittyKath> Yeah no fuck you >.>

L849[15:39:28] <Vexatos> vifino, D:

L850[15:39:32] <rashy> wtg asie

L851[15:39:35] <Vexatos> did it take over the universe?

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L853[15:42:32] <vifino> Vexatos: No need to confess your jellyness.

L854[15:43:06] <Vexatos> vifino, I cannot express the extend of my colloidality

L855[15:43:17] <Vexatos> It's too vast

L856[15:45:17] <vifino> Vexatos: I'm not sure if that's good or bad, but thanks.

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L858[15:45:42] <vifino> I killed Vexatos.

L859[15:47:29] <rashy> you monster

L860[15:47:29] <Antheus> RIP

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L862[15:48:53] <Antheus> .tell Vexatos Could you make speakers in Computronics also act as audio cables?

L863[15:48:54] <^v4> Antheus, Message queued.

L864[15:49:15] <ping> .tell Antheus ^v4 is unstable you should probably use EnderBot2

L865[15:49:16] <^v4> ping, Message queued.

L866[15:50:43] <vifino> *MichiBot

L867[15:50:53] <vifino> You are a failure, ping.

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L873[16:00:21] <Antheus> ping, do you even pong?

L874[16:11:02] <asie> KittyKath: I told you ExU is a troublemaker

L875[16:13:36] <Kodos> I got rid of it once OpenPrinter got filing cabinets

L876[16:13:44] <Kodos> They don't function the same at all, but

L877[16:13:53] <Kodos> What I was using ExU's cabinets for, I can do with the new ones for OpenPrinter

L878[16:14:02] <Kodos> Plus OP's ones look nicer

L879[16:33:58] <S3_> whee

L880[16:42:02] <g> is there any way, in the openOS lua repl, to split the line?

L881[16:42:13] <g> eg if I wanted to write a quick multi-line function

L882[16:43:05] <Kodos> Basically you want a line break in the interpreter?

L883[16:43:18] <g> yeah

L884[16:43:33] <Kodos> There's no way that I know of, but what i usually do is write the function in NP++, join the lines, clean it up, and use that

L885[16:43:44] <g> hm, okay

L886[16:43:59] <Kodos> In NP++, Edit > Line Operations > Join Lines

L887[16:44:14] <Kodos> or Ctrl+J

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L889[16:45:53] <S3_> ok

L890[16:46:04] <Kodos> ok

L891[16:46:25] <gamax92> ok

L892[16:46:58] <S3_> ...

L893[16:47:01] <S3_> what are the chances

L894[16:47:47] <S3_> ok :)

L895[16:48:02] <Kodos> ok

L896[16:48:16] <gamax92> (: ok

L897[16:48:45] <S3_> I

L898[16:48:47] <S3_> do

L899[16:48:50] <S3_> not

L900[16:48:54] <S3_> know

L901[16:48:57] <S3_> where

L902[16:49:08] <S3_> family

L903[16:49:36] <Kodos> resides

L904[16:49:41] <S3_> doctors

L905[16:49:46] <S3_> acquired

L906[16:49:50] <S3_> illegibly

L907[16:49:54] <S3_> perplexing

L908[16:49:56] <S3_> handwriting.

L909[16:50:54] <Kodos> Nevertheless, extraordinary pharmaceutical intellectuality counterbalancing indecipherability, transcendentalizes intercommunication's incomprehensibleness.

L910[16:51:06] <gamax92> g: I'mma go quickly make a multi line repl

L911[16:51:20] <Kodos> Call it gedit =D

L912[16:51:25] <gamax92> ?

L913[16:51:26] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L914[16:51:32] <S3_> Kodos: has it

L915[16:51:40] <gamax92> I don't see how it's relevant but okay

L916[16:51:44] <S3_> gamax92: what does it eval?

L917[16:51:49] <gamax92> lua

L918[16:51:51] <S3_> why?

L919[16:52:14] <S3_> does gamax92 even like Lua?

L920[16:53:52] <S3_> gamax92: In the interests of minetest wouldn't it be cool of there was a mod for forge to provide lua access to the forge API

L921[16:54:07] <S3_> for modding with lua

L922[16:54:11] <S3_> if*

L923[16:54:30] <S3_> oh there is already

L924[16:54:38] <S3_> luacraft

L925[16:54:41] <gamax92> ehh

L926[16:54:54] <gamax92> is that even alive

L927[16:55:06] <gamax92> it is, interesting

L928[16:55:24] <gamax92> it was very much dead last time I checked

L929[16:55:58] <S3_> that's kind of a bummer

L930[16:56:04] <gamax92> what?

L931[16:56:17] <S3_> Well it would be nice

L932[16:56:30] <gamax92> You misread what I said.

L933[16:56:31] <S3_> well wait 1.7.10

L934[16:56:34] <gamax92> It's alive

L935[16:56:37] <S3_> oh

L936[16:56:46] <S3_> heh

L937[16:56:50] <S3_> yay!

L938[16:58:33] <S3_> wat

L939[16:58:40] <S3_> is luacraft Lyqid's project...?!

L940[17:00:10] <gamax92> oh, it is dead

L941[17:00:29] <gamax92> it's got a 1.7.10 version but besides that has not been updated in a while

L942[17:01:56] <g> gamax92: If you manage it, then thanks \o/

L943[17:04:41] <g> also, is there a way to get the parent table of a function?

L944[17:05:17] <g> if I'm in that function that is

L945[17:07:20] <gamax92> g: http://hastebin.com/wulumuhoze.lua

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L947[17:08:16] <gamax92> ... bugged.

L948[17:11:01] <g> TIL, lua has goto

L949[17:12:55] <gamax92> oh

L950[17:13:33] <gamax92> still bugged.

L951[17:15:30] <gamax92> it seems the newest is in 1

L952[17:16:39] <S3_> yeah it's definately dead project

L953[17:18:38] <gamax92> less bugged but history turns to garbage.

L954[17:22:23] <gamax92> fixed

L955[17:23:39] <gamax92> g: http://hastebin.com/jotiqixixe.lua

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L957[17:27:09] * vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed

L958[17:32:44] <g> gamax92, can I apply that on OC somehow?

L959[17:32:44] <g> :P

L960[17:33:38] <gamax92> OpenOS's /bin/lua.lua ?

L961[17:33:53] <gamax92> g: fixed things http://hastebin.com/gexemizasa.lua

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L964[17:55:37] <g> gamax92, I mean, the diff

L965[17:55:45] <g> I guess I could use ssh, but

L966[17:55:58] <gamax92> why would you need ssh to apply a diff

L967[17:56:19] <g> because lazy

L968[17:56:30] <g> I'm guessing there's no OC difftool is what I'm saying

L969[17:56:30] <g> :P

L970[17:57:11] <gamax92> g I'm not in the mood for your shit right now, please just stop.

L971[17:57:47] <g> what?

L972[17:58:00] <gamax92> Go fucking use the patch program in linux or just copy the lines in an editor and delete the plus signs or do anything else besides what you're doing right now

L973[17:58:53] <g> Okay, but don't blame whatever's got your knickers in a twist on me

L974[17:58:55] <g> thanks for the edit, btw

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L977[18:08:55] <g> That works pretty great \o/

L978[18:11:12] <gamax92> g: I was trying to think if I could avoid using a goto, but decided that a goto would be easiest

L979[18:14:05] <g> I had to make one change

L980[18:14:13] <gamax92> hmm?

L981[18:14:29] <g> setForeground() wasn't returning what you were expecting, it was complaining of nils, so I just stored the result of getForeground() and used that instead

L982[18:15:03] <gamax92> oh right, forgot about that.

L983[18:15:10] <Sangar> weee, multipart cables. with utterly broken collisions, but hey.

L984[18:15:15] <gamax92> erm wait.

L985[18:15:20] <Sangar> and with that, sleep. gnight o/

L986[18:15:37] <Mimiru> lol.. that's fucked up :P

L987[18:15:38] <Mimiru> Night

L988[18:19:57] <vifino> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadminlastwords/comments/4c7pbd/manydays_uptime_yay_who_needs_security_fixes/ ~

L989[18:35:49] <Kodos> o/

L990[18:44:19] <gamax92> vifino: wolfmitchell...

L991[18:44:28] <wolfmitchell> .

L992[18:44:36] <gamax92> you ...

L993[18:44:59] <g> oh, it's that guy

L994[18:46:30]

<Mimiru> My 1tb seagate drive is in the middle of a head crash

L995[18:46:38] <Kodos> Oh fun

L996[18:47:12] <vifino> gamax92: Yes?

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L1005[19:26:11] <Antheus> May the odds be ever in your favor, Mimiru

L1006[19:26:20] <Mimiru> o_O

L1007[19:27:02] <Antheus> "My 1tb seagate drive is in the middle of a head crash"

L1008[19:27:14] <Mimiru> ahh yeah

L1009[19:27:24] <Mimiru> grabbed what I could...

L1010[19:28:29] <Antheus> Well, time to go lay down and watch some things on youtube ;P

L1011[19:56:12] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/explorer_2016-03-27_19-52-49.png

L1012[19:56:47] <Kodos> 10 TB?

L1013[19:56:49] <Kodos> wat

L1014[19:56:59] <Mimiru> 10 TB.. :P

L1015[19:57:37] <Mimiru> Though, it's all just a trick

L1016[19:58:11] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/explorer_2016-03-27_19-57-43.png I setup a storage space, and you have to give a max capacity and there is no way I can find to change it after the fact

L1017[19:58:13] <gamax92> It's actually just 1GB mirrored 1024 times

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L1019[19:58:27] <Mimiru> So I set it to 10TB so I can add drives as I get them

L1020[19:59:02] <Mimiru> Oh

L1021[19:59:08] <Mimiru> You can change the capacity

L1022[19:59:11] <Stary2001> lmao

L1023[19:59:11] <Mimiru> Well then...

L1024[19:59:20] <Stary2001> whoops?

L1025[19:59:24] * Mimiru shrugs

L1026[19:59:29] <Mimiru> Just means I can add more storage :P

L1027[20:01:06] <Kodos> Speaking of adding more storage

L1028[20:01:14] <Kodos> ;-D

L1029[20:02:12] <snowden89> hmm

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L1031[20:28:30] <Kodos> HexChat is annoying

L1032[20:29:07] <Dimensional> It's still better than BinChat, DecChat, and OctChat.

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L1039[20:48:50] <gamax92> WocChat

L1040[20:50:37] <Kodos> Does WocChat support me right clicking a username in the list yet

L1041[20:50:57] <gamax92> to do what

L1042[20:50:59] <Kodos> With a menu pop up that lets me do stuff like kick, ban, op, deop, voice, devoice, slap, PM, etc

L1043[20:51:04] <gamax92> there is no menu code sorry

L1044[20:57:26] <Shuudoushi> who wants to help me to try and fix Gophers gml stuff?

L1045[20:58:18] <Kodos> Not it

L1046[20:58:34] <gamax92> Not I

L1047[21:00:57] <Shuudoushi> figured as much...

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L1050[21:08:53] <Dimensional|2> KVirc does all that

L1051[21:09:00] <Dimensional|2> Right click and stuff

L1052[21:09:08] <gamax92> WocChat is an OC irc client

L1053[21:09:10] <Dimensional|2> It's a little difficult to figure out at first.

L1054[21:09:17] <Dimensional|2> Ah

L1055[21:09:48] <gamax92> For the record, HexChat also does all that

L1056[21:10:58] <Kodos> Yeah, but i can't move my custom shit to new places, it forces it to the bottom of my popup menu

L1057[21:22:25] <Shuudoushi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmUb2d1pQ4

L1058[21:22:27] <MichiBot> CADBURY CANNON | length: 1m 52s | Likes: 165 Dislikes: 1 Views: 1516 | by TACTICAL G-CODE

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L1061[21:57:03] <Shuudoushi> something is eating my RAM again... http://goo.gl/uhCqY3

L1062[21:58:18] <Izaya> Lizzy: you play The Division, right?

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L1064[22:09:25] <Dimensional|2> Could it be the Chubacobra? That its goats and rams.

L1065[22:09:41] <gamax92> The Dedotated

L1066[22:11:05] <Izaya> I'm going to guess that the thing eating your memory is Windows

L1067[22:11:22] <snowden89> thats why i board up my windows

L1068[22:11:32] <snowden89> stop those assholes eating me out of house and home

L1069[22:11:34] <snowden89> or memory

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L1071[22:13:09] <Dimensional|2> New product from Apple Computers. The Apple iHouse. It's key feature: No Windows

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L1073[22:14:58] <gamax92> It just has holes in the walls instead for nice fresh air, but don't worry, Apple has security features for those holes

L1074[22:15:48] <Mimiru> Shuudoushi, Sorry to hear that http://michi.pc-logix.com/Taskmgr_2016-03-27_22-15-34.png

L1075[22:16:29] <Shuudoushi> ...

L1076[22:16:45] <Shuudoushi> give me some of your RAM fucker

L1077[22:16:48] <Mimiru> Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (4.21GHz) • Memory: 31.9 GiB Total (23.3 GiB Free) • Storage: 576.4 GiB / 10.7 TiB (10.1 TiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960, Air Display (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.1) • Uptime: 25m 48s

L1078[22:16:57] <Shuudoushi> Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) • CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor (3.06GHz) • Memory: 12.0 GiB Total (4.1 GiB Free) • Storage: 2.0 TiB / 2.4 TiB (414.2 GiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST • Uptime: 1d 0h 13m 9s

L1079[22:17:22] <Shuudoushi> at least I have a better OS...

L1080[22:17:30] <Shuudoushi> and more uptime lol

L1081[22:17:40] <Mimiru> The difference between home and pro was nothing I needed

L1082[22:17:42] <Mimiru> and $30

L1083[22:17:53] <snowden89> i love those windows 10 PC

L1084[22:18:00] <Shuudoushi> I got pro for free b/c of win7 ult lol

L1085[22:18:08] <Mimiru> My 10 is fully legit :p

L1086[22:18:12] <snowden89> that people shutdown everyday but uptime shows 4 - 6 days uptime

L1087[22:18:14] <Shuudoushi> as is mine :D

L1088[22:18:19] <snowden89> due to fast startup

L1089[22:18:41] <Mimiru> Shuudoushi, you and I both know your 7 ult wasn't... :P

L1090[22:18:43] <Shuudoushi> Mimiru: http://goo.gl/A0oQYz

L1091[22:18:49] <Shuudoushi> lol

L1092[22:18:55] <Shuudoushi> win10 doesn't know that XD

L1093[22:19:26] <Izaya> Mem: 7.7G 2.0G 2.6G 96M 3.1G 5.5G

L1094[22:19:35] <Izaya> I don't have a huge amount of RAM but I'm not using much of it atm either

L1095[22:19:50] <Shuudoushi> and further more, I can recover a fully legit product key with magic jelly bean finder :P

L1096[22:19:58] <Izaya> also "Digital Entitlement"

L1097[22:19:58] <Mimiru> my RAM usage would bottom out if not for the 8 chrome windows with tabs out the ass

L1098[22:20:00] <Shuudoushi> or is it just magic bean finder now...

L1099[22:20:26] <Shuudoushi> why is cortona running again... http://goo.gl/JQMHlF

L1100[22:20:33] <Shuudoushi> cortana*

L1101[22:20:40] * Mimiru hugs Cortana

L1102[22:20:42] <Izaya> I have 26 tabs open in luakit, 8 tabs in Firefox, evolution, Steam and PCManFM open

L1103[22:20:55] <Izaya> cortana is creepy as

L1104[22:21:00] <Izaya> certainly cool

L1105[22:21:02] <Izaya> but creepy

L1106[22:21:15] <Shuudoushi> not even 1/2... http://goo.gl/c0pSxF

L1107[22:22:09] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/lvCsd02.png this is why I limit myself to 30 tabs in luakit and only use FF when something breaks

L1108[22:22:27] <Shuudoushi> XD

L1109[22:23:55] <Izaya> I used to end up with like several hundred tabs in FF...

L1110[22:24:00] <Izaya> and still have 4GB memory free

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L1112[22:49:20] <gamax92> Are you Okay?

L1113[22:49:47] <Kodos> Are there any doc pages with shell commands listed?

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L1115[23:00:18] <Mimiru> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/tree/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/bin that has most of the commands.. lol

L1116[23:00:31] <Kodos> Dark, ^

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L1119[23:36:29] <Kodos> #lua return 1000 / 64

L1120[23:36:40] <Dark> ty kodos

L1121[23:36:51] <Kodos> np

L1122[23:36:58] <Kodos> %calc 1000/64

L1123[23:36:58] <MichiBot> Kodos: 15.62

L1124[23:37:14] <Dark> %calc 5!

L1125[23:37:50] <Mimiru> It's a very simple calculator...

L1126[23:40:01] <Dark> just checking, always find it interesting when calculators can do complex math

L1127[23:40:20] <Dark> %calc 2^4

L1128[23:40:20] <MichiBot> Dark: 16

L1129[23:40:28] <Dark> %calc 2e4

L1130[23:40:28] <MichiBot> Dark: 20,000

L1131[23:40:35] <Dark> %calc 2E4

L1132[23:40:35] <MichiBot> Dark: 20,000

L1133[23:40:42] <Dark> hmm not sure those should be the same

L1134[23:44:01] <Kodos> %calc 2E-4

L1135[23:44:04] <MichiBot> Kodos: 0

L1136[23:44:06] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L1137[23:44:16] <Kodos> %calc 2e+1

L1138[23:44:16] <MichiBot> Kodos: 20

L1139[23:44:30] <Kodos> %calc 1.234e+4

L1140[23:44:30] <MichiBot> Kodos: 12,340

L1141[23:44:41] <Kodos> #ihavenoideawhatiamdoing

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