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L7[00:39:27] <Kodos> Anyone use Agricraft?
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L12[01:48:51] <Cazzar> So
L13[01:48:57] <Cazzar> Discord has a linux client now
L14[01:48:58] <Cazzar> ?
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L46[05:13:45] <Sangar> o/
L47[05:14:21] <Forecaster> okay, who murdered vexatos? D:<
L48[05:14:31] <Forecaster> he's missing and I need him >:
L49[05:14:45] <g> Sorry Forecaster D:
L50[05:14:50] <g> but he was trying to steal my cookies :v
L51[05:15:10] <Forecaster> that is pretty serious, but could you try to reanimate him?
L52[05:15:15] <Sangar> wouldn't be surprised if he's on vacation
L53[05:15:20] <Forecaster> I need him to fix computronics >:
L54[05:15:27] <g> ..holiday at this time of year? :P
L55[05:15:29] <g> Forecaster, what's broken?
L56[05:15:37] <Forecaster> it's not broken per see
L57[05:16:09] <Forecaster> but it seems his digital signal boxes don't return the label of the box that was triggered with the event
L58[05:16:10] <Sangar> today and monday is a national holiday in germany
L59[05:16:28] <Forecaster> so it's impossible to tell where the change originated
L60[05:17:40] <Forecaster> is it possible for an addon to send custom data with an event?
L61[05:17:57] <bauen1|afk> Being on vacation is not a valid excuse to stay away from Opencomputers
L62[05:17:58] <bauen1|afk> xD
L63[05:18:16] <Sangar> Forecaster, yes, possible
L64[05:18:31] <Sangar> :P
L65[05:18:34] <Forecaster> then it's inexcusable that he isn't doing it D:<
L66[05:18:55] <Forecaster> I'm stuck until this is added...
L67[05:19:11] <Forecaster> I need to be able to tell where the signal originated
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L69[05:21:16] <Forecaster> I guess I have to shelf this video until he reappears
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L73[05:35:28] <Sangar> it's a Vexatos!
L74[05:36:02] <bauen1> So Holidays isn't a excuse?
L75[05:36:06] <Vexatos> OH NOES
L76[05:36:12] <Vexatos> HOW DARE I JOIN IRC ON HOLIDAY
L77[05:36:21] <bauen1> Being on vacation is not a valid excuse to stay away from Opencomputers
L78[05:36:46] * Saphire looks at bauen1
L79[05:36:48] <Saphire> Oh hey
L80[05:36:53] * bauen1 looks back
L81[05:36:57] <bauen1> hello
L82[05:37:02] <Saphire> I guess you got stuck here?
L83[05:37:11] <Vexatos> Sooo
L84[05:37:12] <bauen1> At breaking the bot?
L85[05:37:13] <Vexatos> Sangar, what's on
L86[05:37:19] * Saphire shrugs
L87[05:37:29] <Sangar> Vexatos, Forecaster
L88[05:37:33] * bauen1 doesnt know what that word mean
L89[05:37:42] * bauen1 is from germany
L90[05:37:43] <Forecaster> I already prodded him
L91[05:37:47] <Saphire> bauen1: i mean on IRC..
L92[05:37:52] <bauen1> yep
L93[05:38:07] <Saphire> Well, welcome to #oc where madness happens and possibly some OC discussions
L94[05:38:16] <bauen1> Thanks ;D
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L99[06:20:38] <Lizzy> "<@Sangar> [10:16:12] today and monday is a national holiday in germany" woop for bank holidays
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L103[06:40:45] <KittyKath> bauen1: a) leo.org will come in handy b) as a fair warning, it is advised against using nickchanges to signal that you're away or not. IRC has a special AWAY command which is way less spammy and intrusive than changing your nick.
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L106[06:43:15] <bauen1> ok thx KittyKath
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L117[07:38:58] <bauen1> #lua print("This is a test Sorry for inconviniences(whatever)")
L118[07:38:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Output: http://pb.i0i0.me/p/xqpKJef9
L119[07:41:50] <Kimiro> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYH2lNrnCm8 :>
L120[07:41:53] <MichiBot> Finn and Jake Adventure Time Cameo in Futurama | length: 7s | Likes: 6183 Dislikes: 185 Views: 956310 | by Superjesterdude102
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L122[07:43:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, you spoilt me
L123[07:44:11] <Sangar> how so?
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L125[07:44:51] <Vexatos> I am not used to stubborn and ignorant devs of mods I write addons for
L126[07:45:02] <Vexatos> (Since I have only little contact to dan)
L127[07:45:09] <Sangar> <_>
L128[07:45:37] <Vexatos> TGregworks apparently has an incompatibility with IguanaTinkerTweaks and boni's only response was "stop using 1.7.10"
L129[07:45:50] <Sangar> welp
L130[07:45:50] <Vexatos> :|
L131[07:46:34] <jhagrid7> Hey everyone
L132[07:48:00] <AlexisMachina> well he's not supporting 1.7.10 anymore
L133[07:49:12] <AlexisMachina> Vexatos whats the issue? does it not get experience?
L134[07:49:22] <Vexatos> nope
L135[07:49:32] <AlexisMachina> what is it then?
L136[07:49:39] <Vexatos> But you cannot put a TGw tool part into your tool station to replace a tool part of an existing tool
L137[07:49:53] <AlexisMachina> ah that
L138[07:49:59] <Vexatos> and if your tool contains a TGw tool part and you try to upgrade it with a normal tool part, the colour is messed up
L139[07:50:52] <AlexisMachina> thats weird
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L142[08:02:39] <Inari> why you no find time execvp
L143[08:02:40] <Inari> :<
L144[08:03:04] <Inari> i wonder if its because its actually "./time\000\000\220\t@\000\000\000\000\000\000\354\377\377" and not ".time\000" :P but no clue
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L146[08:10:54] <S3_> wtf unicode
L147[08:10:57] <S3_> go away unicode
L148[08:11:08] <S3_> :P
L149[08:11:28] <Lizzy> lol wut? k, i left my windows partition on my laptop in hibernate again
L150[08:11:43] <Inari> and it booted back up to porn?
L151[08:11:54] <S3_> Lizzy: trying to access your files? Don't you hate that ?!
L152[08:12:24] <S3_> Lizzy: there is a way to force it if it is ntfs, but I forget what it was and how safe it was
L153[08:12:42] <vifino> LIZZY!!! \o/
L154[08:12:51] <Lizzy> S3_, no, i can access the disk in read only from linux when it's hibernated, just booted back into windows and suddenly i'm presented with stuff i was working on a few days ago
L155[08:13:08] * vifino throws himself at Lizzy <3
L156[08:13:16] * Lizzy catches vifino
L157[08:13:22] <S3_> lol
L158[08:13:26] <vifino> weee
L159[08:13:42] <S3_> I had to do something crazy to access my ntfs files from FreeBSD
L160[08:13:46] <S3_> when it was hibernated
L161[08:14:02] <S3_> ntfs was like nope even with force
L162[08:14:38] <Lizzy> also generally i don't actually put windows into hibernate, i just forget to charge it when using windows then use linux after
L163[08:20:05] <S3_> NOPE
L164[08:20:10] <S3_> NOPE!
L165[08:20:18] <Lizzy> there, got driver signature enforcement off so i can install this driver
L166[08:20:20] <S3_> I was just heading out to the bus
L167[08:20:33] <S3_> and I slipped on my driveway like 5 times then slid all the way down the sidewalk
L168[08:20:38] <Lizzy> lol
L169[08:20:41] <S3_> the entire road and sidewalks are all blakc ize
L170[08:20:43] <S3_> ice*
L171[08:23:39] <Inari> so
L172[08:24:29] <Inari> calling execvp with command "time\000" why it now ork D:
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L174[08:27:15] <S3_> so my school is not canceled today, no surprise
L175[08:27:26] <Inari> hmmm
L176[08:27:34] <S3_> my university will not cancel unless it is a state of emergency
L177[08:27:38] <Inari> though why does it show this and that differently :x
L178[08:27:47] <S3_> even if the road is an inch of solid ice XD
L179[08:29:40] <S3_> so who wants to make an OC branch for minetest? lololol
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L181[08:36:59] <Inari> c string handling is a pain
L182[08:47:29] <S3_> I need to do a channel cleanup I'm in more than 50 channels
L183[08:47:37] <S3_> Inari: Perl is meant for that
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L191[09:28:18] <Mimiru> vifino, how the hell do you reset |0xDEADBEEF|'s sandbox again? lol
L192[09:28:33] <vifino> #resetlua
L193[09:28:33] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Sandbox Reset!
L194[09:28:52] <Mimiru> Woo, cause this: http://pb.i0i0.me/p/xqpKJef9 Was happening lol
L195[09:28:58] <vifino> bauen1 keeps fucking it up.
L196[09:29:18] <Mimiru> |0xDEADBEEF|, not have an ignore?
L197[09:29:30] <vifino> it does.
L198[09:29:36] <vifino> but i can't be bothered.
L199[09:30:04] <vifino> he has fun n stuff, he also fixes some things, only thing im complaining about is the fact that he doesnt reset it afterwards.
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L201[09:32:37] <bauen1> You might wanna reset it after 30 minutes of idle time
L202[09:32:53] <vifino> nope.
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L208[09:47:22] <Antheus> lol
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L217[10:27:49] <Pwootage> What settings library is it that OC uses? Typesafe something?
L218[10:28:03] <Sangar> yes
L219[10:28:07] <Pwootage> (finally moving back into semi-serious MC modding :p)
L220[10:28:24] <Pwootage> I like OC's settings file, so I was thinking I'd use the same library
L221[10:29:05] <Sangar> mind it only uses it because i was told forge's built-in config would be removed in... 1.7? :P but it's a nice lib so hey
L222[10:31:04] <Sangar> saving configs back out again is a bit suboptimal (order and formatting won't be preserved) because it's not designed for that
L223[10:39:54] <Pwootage> How do you generate the comments, out of curiosity? I could probably look a bit more, but I'm not seeing it in Settings.scala
L224[10:40:19] <Sangar> Pwootage, by having them in the "template" config file.
L225[10:40:49] <Sangar> that's also where default values are defined
L226[10:40:59] <Sangar> in oc's case: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/application.conf
L227[10:41:03] <Pwootage> Ah! that makes sense
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L230[10:45:50] <Kodos> Blech
L231[10:46:36] <g> belch
L232[10:48:18] <Mimiru> Bleach
L233[10:49:31] <Pwootage> Blog
L234[10:51:38] <Lizzy> Blue
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L237[10:58:16] <gamax92> Sangar: oh
L238[10:59:00] <Sangar> oh?
L239[10:59:23] <gamax92> Sangar: thinking about ocemu's config loading/writing
L240[11:00:10] <gamax92> It looks like the OC config but with lua comments, but really it's just a Lua Table oddly formatted
L241[11:00:21] <Sangar> sounds fine?
L242[11:00:42] <gamax92> Sangar: Well it writes the config when you close the emulator
L243[11:08:12] <payonel> Shuudoushi: delayed is a new key for package
L244[11:08:31] <payonel> Shuudoushi: you would need to update your /lib/package.lua
L245[11:08:42] <payonel> it isn't required, i could help you merge it out if you prefer
L246[11:08:52] <payonel> it just reduces RAM cost for boot
L247[11:09:21] <Shuudoushi> hmmm
L248[11:10:37] <Shuudoushi> but my package lib was already the same as OOS 1.6...
L249[11:10:57] <Shuudoushi> or at least when I overwrote the file, there were no changes to it
L250[11:11:07] <payonel> that error is probably due to init.lua saying something like package.delayed["term"] = true
L251[11:11:15] <Aedda> Idea, what if you could replace the standard computer case with a 3d print? With a specific material for the case light.
L252[11:11:17] <Shuudoushi> yes
L253[11:11:18] <payonel> and delayed is created in /lib/package.lua
L254[11:11:31] <Kodos> Aedda, that's been discussed, but thus far nothing has come of it afaik
L255[11:11:45] <Aedda> Ah, thanks for letting me know Kodos :)
L256[11:12:02] <Kodos> It was also brought up wrt replacing tools with prints, too
L257[11:14:16] <Shuudoushi> payonel: SOS' package.lua https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/blob/dev/lib/package.lua
L258[11:14:32] <payonel> hmm, yep, right there
L259[11:14:51] <Shuudoushi> and it is package.delayed["term'] = true
L260[11:15:58] <Shuudoushi> but line 22-23 is where delayed is defined, but it's still erroring out for some reason...
L261[11:18:23] <payonel> it seems you don't preload .. ?
L262[11:18:37] <payonel> you select an os to boot
L263[11:18:58] <payonel> i could make package safer for your scenario i think
L264[11:19:34] <Shuudoushi> https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/blob/dev/boot/kernel/SecureOS#L102
L265[11:20:14] <Shuudoushi> there are VERY few difs between my kernel and OOS'
L266[11:20:48] <payonel> if you could get the stack of that error, it'd help
L267[11:21:06] <Shuudoushi> waiting on MC to launch right now
L268[11:23:55] <Shuudoushi> I do need to figure out how to wiggle my code back into rm to move stuff to a trash folder over just deleting everything
L269[11:24:12] <payonel> it's weird you could have a package {} and not have the package.delayed {}
L270[11:24:18] <payonel> that doesn't make a lot of sense to me
L271[11:24:38] <Mimiru> Welcome to Shuucode
L272[11:24:41] <payonel> one thought i had was, ok, i'll just add package.delayed = package.delayed or {} in init.lua
L273[11:24:54] <payonel> but that doesn't make any sense, bc to get package{}, you get its delayed{}
L274[11:26:02] <Shuudoushi> this fucking screen though yo... http://goo.gl/bjFGnO
L275[11:26:26] * Kodos makes grabby hands
L276[11:26:28] <Kodos> Lemme see code
L277[11:26:30] <Kodos> I fix
L278[11:26:49] <Shuudoushi> https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/blob/dev/boot/kernel/SecureOS#L123
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L280[11:28:14] <Shuudoushi> payonel: ummm... wtf? http://goo.gl/UPMly8
L281[11:31:16] <S3_> You know, sometimes I wonder why most processors even have a CMP instruction
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L283[11:31:24] <S3_> most architectures don't need it at -all-
L284[11:31:50] <S3_> I guess it does save a store load
L285[11:42:05] <Shuudoushi> ... time for work...
L286[11:42:16] <Shuudoushi> I'll catch y'all later o/
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L290[11:57:07] <payonel> Shuudoushi: sorry i missed you there
L291[11:57:30] <payonel> wish i could look into this now - will later
L292[12:00:00] <Sandra> S3, what do they use instead of CMP?
L293[12:00:33] * rashy waves
L294[12:04:16] * payonel particals
L295[12:08:01] <rashy> ahaha xD
L296[12:08:10] * rashy high fives payonel
L297[12:12:45] <payonel> :D
L298[12:14:40] <S3_> Sandra: why, subtraction of course :P
L299[12:15:14] <S3_> Sandra: The only difference between cmp and sub in most architectures is that cmp doesn't modify any destination address / register / whatever
L300[12:16:14] <S3_> imagine you comparing two unsigned numbers, like 50 and 100, so you have cmp 50, 100 (just making this instruction set up)
L301[12:16:18] <S3_> it does 50 - 100
L302[12:16:38] <S3_> and then the conditional branch functions look at the flags
L303[12:17:14] <S3_> for example with unsigned in this situation branch if equal is the same as asking, is the zero flag true?
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L305[12:18:52] <Sandra> ahk.
L306[12:27:02] <S3_> hopefully that makes sense lol
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L315[13:24:54] <gamax92> "I like to slightly burn the food a bit, it adds to the flavor and makes me feel at home"
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L317[13:28:51] <g> gamax92: charring is tasty with some
L318[13:28:51] <g> :P
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L332[14:55:51] <MajGenRelativity> %p
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L336[14:56:08] <MajGenRelativity> oof
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L339[14:56:36] <MajGenRelativity> better
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L341[15:10:01] <g> http://www.pcgamer.com/ubisoft-steam-sale-leaves-bundles-costing-more-than-individual-games/
L342[15:10:23] <Kodos> Not surprised with ubishit
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L346[15:17:36] <gamax92> paladins is a neat game
L347[15:19:58] <Inari> waaaaat
L348[15:19:59] <Inari> java pls
L349[15:20:27] <Inari> debugger variables
L350[15:20:33] <Inari> tokens.length = 1
L351[15:20:41] <Inari> watched: tokens.length == 1 = true
L352[15:21:00] <Inari> select whole if, says its true
L353[15:21:03] <Inari> but goes into else branch
L354[15:21:03] <Inari> what
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L361[15:43:45] <noiro> why does robot.up() not work? I installed openOS but it's saying it can't find robot o.o
L362[15:46:53] <Temia> How are you declaring the robot component?
L363[15:47:15] <gamax92> that sounds like api, are you doing a local robot=require("robot")
L364[15:47:45] <Temia> robot is a component API, not a library one
L365[15:47:55] <gamax92> it has an api wrapper
L366[15:48:00] <Temia> Oh.
L367[15:48:02] <Temia> Sure enough.
L368[15:48:04] <Temia> .-.
L369[15:48:11] <Temia> That's mildly confusing
L370[15:48:27] <noiro> huh?
L371[15:48:28] <gamax92> yeah ... but the robot api itself is much more confusing
L372[15:48:54] <gamax92> you'll get functions that are heavily generic and take a generic side, but will only do certain things for certain sides, or nothing at all
L373[15:49:33] <gamax92> s/robot api/robot component api/
L374[15:49:34] <MichiBot> <gamax92> yeah ... but the robot component api itself is much more confusing
L375[15:50:08] <noiro> So robot.up() isn't the command I'd put into programs I"d make to make it go up?
L376[15:50:29] <Temia> Rather, before you call robot.up(), you need to declare the API
L377[15:50:36] <Temia> Since each script runs in its own context.
L378[15:50:40] <noiro> how? require(robot)?
L379[15:50:45] <Temia> s/context/scope
L380[15:50:45] <MichiBot> <Temia> Since each script runs in its own scope.
L381[15:50:58] <Temia> as gamax said, 'local robot = require("robot")
L382[15:51:03] <Temia> local is optional but in good form
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L384[15:54:01] <noiro> Also, why can't I install a generator upgrade into a robot that's tier 1?
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L386[15:56:53] <vifino> Temiamoo!
L387[15:57:01] * vifino hugs Temiamoo
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L391[16:04:20] <g> right, let's see if the database upgrade got better in 1.6..
L392[16:05:51] <g> I'm hoping it supports the ore dictionary now :v
L393[16:09:39] <g> nope.avi
L394[16:09:44] * g pokes the Sangar?
L395[16:10:15] <g> ah, idle 5hrs
L396[16:10:32] <g> Michiyo / Mimiru, do you know if there's a reason that the database upgrade can't deal with oredict names?
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L400[16:14:12] <g> %tell Sangar Should the database upgrade support oredict names? It doesn't for me and it seems like kind of a big oversight if it just isn't implemented
L401[16:14:12] <MichiBot> g: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L403[16:15:46] <Sangar> the original usecase of the db upgrade is storing *exact* items (incl. nbt), to pass them on to other methods (e.g. configuring ae interfaces). what are you trying to use it for that you need oredict info?
L404[16:17:48] <g> Sangar, I want to be able to use it for moving items around via the transposer
L405[16:17:59] <g> for example, if I want to use diamonds in a bank, and I want to use all diamonds, not just vanilla ones
L406[16:18:22] <g> but it doesn't seem like any of the item APIs actually have the oredict names
L407[16:21:12] <Sangar> hmm, i see. make an issue for a 'fuzzy:boolean' arg then; for the inv controller's compareStackToDatabase probably
L408[16:21:30] <g> honestly comparing by string would be fine
L409[16:21:43] <Vexatos> but MUH IMMERSION
L410[16:21:48] <Sangar> eh, don't really want to expose oredict strings
L411[16:21:53] <g> why not?
L412[16:21:55] <Vexatos> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
L413[16:22:01] <Vexatos> g: because MUH IMMERSION
L414[16:22:04] <Sangar> same reason internal ids aren't exposed
L415[16:22:08] <Sangar> or absolute coordinates
L416[16:22:13] <Vexatos> Same reason why there are no absolute coords
L417[16:22:14] <g> but they're not internal IDs or absolute coordinates
L418[16:22:15] <Vexatos> or NBT data
L419[16:22:20] <g> and they're not nbt data
L420[16:22:24] <Vexatos> They are internal
L421[16:22:29] <Vexatos> they are about as internal as you can get
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L423[16:22:37] <Sangar> it's not something that "exists" from a perspective from inside the mc world
L424[16:22:41] <Vexatos> ^
L425[16:22:53] <g> actually I'd argue that it's quite important from that perspective
L426[16:23:01] <g> when you have a bunch of mods that add, eg, copper
L427[16:23:01] <Vexatos> It's quite an important design decision
L428[16:23:29] <g> and yet we have the debug card
L429[16:23:30] <g> :P
L430[16:23:36] <Vexatos> in creative mode
L431[16:23:39] <g> yep
L432[16:23:41] <Vexatos> ^ major point there
L433[16:23:41] <Sangar> then you can slap one of the copper ingots in the db upgrade, and once the fuzzy parameter is in compare true against it with all copper ingots
L434[16:23:49] <Vexatos> It's the card for everything that breaks immersion
L435[16:24:17] <g> a fuzzy compare wouldn't work, by the way
L436[16:24:30] <g> some things have multiple oredict names, you'd need to be able to specify which ones you want and which you don't
L437[16:24:37] <Vexatos> uhm no?
L438[16:24:42] <Vexatos> it'd just match any
L439[16:24:50] <g> and that might not be what you want
L440[16:24:58] <Vexatos> well, blame Pam's HarvestCraft
L441[16:25:05] <g> there's plenty of other mods that do that
L442[16:25:05] <g> lol
L443[16:25:14] <Vexatos> plenty=Pam's HarvestCRaft
L444[16:25:29] <g> or, yknow, chisel, TE, anything with block recolours, ec
L445[16:25:37] <g> etc*
L446[16:26:31] <g> oredict names are human readable besides, yes it's an internal representation of a type but it's not game-breaking or immersion-breaking in any way
L447[16:26:40] <g> I mean you expose damage values here, those are technically internal as well
L448[16:26:45] <jhagrid7> Sangar: How's life?
L449[16:26:47] <Vexatos> it's only human-readable because that makes it easy to support
L450[16:27:05] <Vexatos> It's about as human-readable as good variable names
L451[16:27:11] <g> and actually you are exposing the IDs as well
L452[16:27:14] <g> not the numerical ones, but the string ones
L453[16:27:19] <g> and hasTag, whatever that is
L454[16:27:27] <Vexatos> And I always hated it :P
L455[16:27:31] <Sangar> belgh. while the multiple names per thing is an actual problem, i still don't really want to expose oredict names :/
L456[16:27:40] <Sangar> think of a way around that if you would :P
L457[16:27:44] <g> you can't give me "muh immersion" when you already appear to be breaking it
L458[16:27:44] <g> :P
L459[16:27:54] <g> Sangar, there isn't really another way
L460[16:28:04] <Vexatos> g: I never use those cheaty things
L461[16:28:05] <g> the only ways around it would require knowing what the oredict names are
L462[16:28:13] <Vexatos> I can tell you about MUH IMMERSIONâ„¢ all I want
L463[16:28:20] <g> okay, but I'm going to ignore you
L464[16:28:20] <g> :P
L465[16:28:31] <Kodos> g, alternatively you could add it yourself, self compile, and just use that
L466[16:28:38] <g> Kodos, I can't compile OC
L467[16:28:42] <g> it refuses to compile on any of my machines
L468[16:28:50] <g> Sangar: you could add an option to only match the first name for example, but then you'd need to know what the first name actually is
L469[16:29:17] <Vexatos> or you just work around the limitations
L470[16:29:25] <Vexatos> Because that's what a programmer does
L471[16:29:39] <Sangar> s/programmer/progamer/
L472[16:29:39] <MichiBot> <Vexatos> Because that's what a progamer does
L473[16:29:41] <Dashkal> Sangar: To stay inside that wall. A call where I feed it multiple item dicts and say "Fuzzy like this and that"
L474[16:29:50] <Vexatos> Sangar, glorious
L475[16:29:51] <g> no, I'm not going to write awful hacky code because of an unnecessary api limitation
L476[16:29:52] <g> :P
L477[16:30:03] <g> I can't even think of a good way to work around it anyway
L478[16:30:14] <Sangar> Dashkal, that seems like a reasonable approach.
L479[16:30:18] <Vexatos> "awful hacky code because of an unnecessary api limitation" is every mod ever
L480[16:30:22] <g> automated public smeltery for example?
L481[16:30:31] <g> I want people to put platinum ores into a chest
L482[16:30:36] <g> and they get platinum ingots back
L483[16:30:43] <g> so, I look at the name, see if "platinum" is in it
L484[16:30:49] <g> ah, but wait, shiny metal is considered platnium
L485[16:30:51] <Vexatos> Sangar, what, compareFuzzyTo(databaseslot1, databaseslot2, databaseslot455) ?
L486[16:30:51] <Vexatos> :P
L487[16:30:53] <g> platinum*
L488[16:30:54] <Dashkal> That said, that won't solve dyes.
L489[16:30:56] * Kodos fucks off to go preorder Lego Star Wars TFA
L490[16:31:08] <Vexatos> g: You have platinum in a database
L491[16:31:15] <Vexatos> do a fuzzy check for platinum to that entry
L492[16:31:16] <Dashkal> Since all dyeBlue has listDye or whatever.
L493[16:31:17] <Vexatos> you win
L494[16:31:31] <Vexatos> Dashkal, I do not think that's in Forge
L495[16:31:35] <g> no, because shiny metal has oreShiny and orePlatinum for example
L496[16:31:38] <Sangar> ah, right, it's that way around :X
L497[16:31:38] <Kodos> What about rack mounted raids or databases?
L498[16:31:39] * Kodos runs
L499[16:31:40] <Sangar> ohwell
L500[16:31:44] <g> stuff like that
L501[16:32:06] <Vexatos> confirmed, Dashkal
L502[16:32:09] <Vexatos> it's not forge doing that
L503[16:32:09] <g> you can trivialise all you like but there's no foolproof way to work around it
L504[16:32:15] <Dashkal> ok?
L505[16:32:19] <g> and an imperfect server facility isn't acceptable :P
L506[16:32:23] <Dashkal> We don't tend to play OC on Forge alone...
L507[16:32:28] <Vexatos> g: oreShiny doesn't exist
L508[16:32:34] <Dashkal> If we did, the oredict wouldn't need to exist at all
L509[16:32:37] <Vexatos> it's just orePlatinum
L510[16:32:41] <g> I know, it was hypothetical
L511[16:32:57] <g> there are actual examples of this, but I'm not going to go digging through 550 NEI pages
L512[16:33:14] <Vexatos> And which one does not relate to Pam's HarvestCraft?
L513[16:33:15] <Vexatos> ;P
L514[16:33:24] <g> I didn't even say I had pam's
L515[16:33:24] <g> lol
L516[16:33:50] <g> (I do, but I haven't ever wanted to use OC with pam's items)
L517[16:34:39] <Vexatos> this list* is an awful hack and unintended use of the oredict
L518[16:34:46] <Vexatos> that's pretty much only used by HarvestCraft
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L520[16:34:59] <g> it's used by several other mods that I've seen
L521[16:35:11] <g> and it doesn't really matter if it is unintended, mods do it
L522[16:35:18] <g> it's something that has to be dealt with for that reason
L523[16:36:08] <Vexatos> or you just
L524[16:36:10] <Vexatos> y'know
L525[16:36:13] <Vexatos> deal with it
L526[16:36:15] <Vexatos> and work around it
L527[16:36:21] <g> there is no way to work around it.
L528[16:36:21] <Vexatos> which is what you should do
L529[16:36:25] <Vexatos> yes there is
L530[16:36:33] <g> and what's that?
L531[16:36:36] <Vexatos> Want every dye? add every dye to database
L532[16:36:39] <Vexatos> problem solved
L533[16:36:44] <g> databases are limited size
L534[16:36:47] <Vexatos> database full? add another
L535[16:36:53] <Vexatos> Not that hard.
L536[16:36:54] <g> yeah no, that isn't a solution
L537[16:36:57] <Vexatos> it is
L538[16:37:01] <g> juggling 10-20 databases isn't good enough
L539[16:37:08] <g> not least because of the amount of room it'd take up
L540[16:37:12] <Vexatos> When would you ever need 2500 slots
L541[16:37:17] <g> and I imagine it'd be execssively slow
L542[16:37:24] <g> I don't know, I may need it in the future at this rate
L543[16:37:34] <Vexatos> IIRC the largest database has 12x9 slots
L544[16:37:49] <g> yeah the largest one is 81 slots
L545[16:38:20] <Vexatos> plenty
L546[16:38:26] <g> for you? maybe.
L547[16:38:52] <g> power users exist
L548[16:38:53] <Vexatos> For specific oredict entries? sufficient
L549[16:39:01] <Vexatos> for those entries like list*? use fuzzy
L550[16:39:09] <g> fuzzy wouldn't be specific enough
L551[16:39:14] <Vexatos> yes it would
L552[16:39:21] <Vexatos> find one item that only has that one oredict entry you want
L553[16:39:24] <Vexatos> and compare to that
L554[16:39:27] <Vexatos> in the database
L555[16:39:27] <g> and if there isn't one?
L556[16:39:31] <Vexatos> There is
L557[16:39:31] <Dashkal> Holy crap it's like watching a car argue with a brick wall...
L558[16:39:39] <g> Dashkal: xD
L559[16:39:41] <Vexatos> Dashkal, can I be the wall?
L560[16:39:44] <g> Vexatos, you're making too many assumptions
L561[16:39:54] <Vexatos> g, and you are having bad ideas
L562[16:40:07] <Vexatos> go play OpenPeripheral if you want to be cheaty kthx
L563[16:40:22] <g> no, I'd rather not install CC
L564[16:40:22] <g> lol
L565[16:40:34] <Vexatos> OpenP has been an OC addon for months, you derp
L566[16:40:37] <Vexatos> a bad one
L567[16:40:39] <Vexatos> but it has
L568[16:40:47] <g> also, how is oredict cheaty?
L569[16:40:59] <g> this is pretty much the exact reason it exists
L570[16:41:01] <Vexatos> immersion~
L571[16:41:06] <Vexatos> no
L572[16:41:26] <Vexatos> there is exactly one single reason it exists: Crafting recipes for metal ingots
L573[16:41:31] <Vexatos> it is called ORE dict for a reason
L574[16:41:33] <Vexatos> not fooddict
L575[16:41:38] <Vexatos> not dyedict
L576[16:41:39] <Vexatos> OREdict
L577[16:41:59] <g> okay? but use cases evolve
L578[16:42:00] <Vexatos> it is meant for making multiple mods' copper ingots and ores intercompatible
L579[16:42:02] <Vexatos> nothing else
L580[16:42:14] <Vexatos> well tell that to Lex and he'll instantly ban you
L581[16:42:15] <Vexatos> :P
L582[16:42:22] <g> the name may be oredict, but I'm quite happy that mod glass works in vanilla glass recipes
L583[16:42:30] <g> yes, well, lex is corrupt, but we all know that :P
L584[16:43:51] <g> anyway, programming isn't something that suits idealism, your methods work when things are working exactly how you expect them to, but that doesn't appear to be the case for everyone
L585[16:43:58] <Vexatos> Or make it compare to two or three or * stacks in the database and find all the oredict entries common between all of them
L586[16:44:07] <Vexatos> and only match against those
L587[16:44:09] <g> that may also not be enough
L588[16:44:23] <Vexatos> If two items share the exact same oredict entries and ALL of them
L589[16:44:27] <Vexatos> they are virtually identical
L590[16:44:28] <g> look, you can stick your head in the sand and constantly come up with excuses not to implement something extremely simple
L591[16:44:29] <Vexatos> so why not
L592[16:44:49] <Vexatos> who cares about simple? simple is cheaty most of the time. Simple is boring
L593[16:45:08] <g> it's too useful to overlook
L594[16:45:21] <Vexatos> something something NBT data exposure
L595[16:45:31] <g> oredict has nothing to do with NBT though?
L596[16:45:40] <Vexatos> it's pretty much the same argument
L597[16:45:47] <Vexatos> why people would want it, why OC doesn't have it
L598[16:45:50] <g> it's a type identifier
L599[16:46:13] <g> it's internal from a programming perspective, but it definitely isn't immersion-breaking
L600[16:46:19] <Vexatos> it is
L601[16:46:38] <g> or did you forget that we're using computers in a game designed with only medieval tech in mind?
L602[16:46:38] <g> :P
L603[16:47:15] <Vexatos> Orly? Tell me more about that *looks at redstone*
L604[16:47:19] <g> pretty much every non-lore-safe mod is "immersion-breaking" if you want to go down that route
L605[16:47:44] <Vexatos> it's not immersion-breaking if it becomes part of the immersion
L606[16:47:48] <Vexatos> like good mods do
L607[16:48:08] <Vexatos> if you want oredict tags, go install OpenPeripheral
L608[16:50:02] <g> there are no docs for this
L609[16:51:52] <g> not going to install a mod when I don't know what it does
L610[16:51:52] <Vexatos> in my opinion, not providing any numbers or text to the world that should not appear in the world is one of the most important things in OC
L611[16:51:57] <Vexatos> makes the mod unique
L612[16:52:02] <Vexatos> good mods do this.
L613[16:52:11] <g> it's unique in a lot of good ways, really
L614[16:52:39] <g> but it is a mod about programming to me, and I feel that crippling an api for the sake of immersion isn't really a good thing
L615[16:53:06] <g> hell, if something like this was in the creative debug card it'd be fine, as long as it exists _somewhere_ for server staff to provide services to players
L616[16:53:49] <g> but there's no way I can compile OC, so it's never going to happen I guess
L617[16:54:35] <Vexatos> You have yet to provide a single thing I can not work around with the current system (and the addition of a fuzzy boolean)
L618[16:54:55] <Vexatos> OC is not about providing the easiest way to do something
L619[16:56:12] <g> well, right now, does anything remotely support oredict?
L620[16:56:26] <g> as far as I've found, that's a no, so the only way I see to work around it right now is using item names and string IDs
L621[16:56:32] <g> which.. well, there's no way to get that foolproo
L622[16:56:35] <g> foolproof*
L623[16:57:26] <omglolbah> g: uh... openp has plenty of docs :p
L624[16:57:33] <g> omglolbah, they're all ingame
L625[16:57:41] <g> the thread even says as much
L626[16:57:59] <omglolbah> So dump em to file and pastebin that shit :p
L627[16:58:02] <omglolbah> That is what I do
L628[16:58:13] <g> that would require installing the mod, wouldn't it?
L629[16:58:23] <omglolbah> So clone the instance and look at it?
L630[16:58:29] <omglolbah> What are you trying to do anyway?
L631[16:58:41] <g> I just don't want to install it until I have a better idea of what it does
L632[16:58:59] <g> there's like a two-line description, I don't want to restart the server just to find it doesn't support what I need
L633[16:59:01] <omglolbah> It adds a bunch of peripherals that let you manage external blocks in a variety of ways
L634[16:59:08] <KittyKath> Or just look at the source? https://github.com/OpenMods/OpenPeripheral/
L635[16:59:22] <omglolbah> http://omglolbah.net/minecraft/lua/
L636[16:59:26] <omglolbah> almost everything there uses openp
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L638[17:01:25] <g> I really can't tell if this supports oredict or not
L639[17:01:26] <g> ._.
L640[17:01:34] <g> it's all generic and I don't know forge well enough
L641[17:03:17] <g> meh, I'll just give up, this isn't going to happen
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L646[17:14:28] <asie> g: not even BuildCraft supports oredicts officially
L647[17:14:33] <asie> the lists let you sort by Type, by Material, or both
L648[17:14:56] <asie> this is due to immersion which Vexatos mentioned
L649[17:15:03] <g> I honestly don't use buildcraft
L650[17:15:08] <g> we have it installed but other people use it
L651[17:15:14] <asie> Who does? Kappa
L652[17:15:19] <rashy> it's a pointless mod anyway
L653[17:15:21] <rashy> <3
L654[17:15:25] <asie> yeah, it sucks <3
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L656[17:15:40] <rashy> teehee :3
L657[17:16:19] <Vexatos> but asie, you know what's worse? OC's and Computronics' in-game documentation
L658[17:16:24] <Vexatos> seriously, who wrote this crap?
L659[17:16:26] <asie> Vexatos: you know what's worse?
L660[17:16:29] <rashy> touche
L661[17:16:29] <asie> BC's in-game documentation Kappa
L662[17:16:36] <Vexatos> asie, which documentation
L663[17:16:36] <Vexatos> :3
L664[17:16:48] * Vexatos pokes rashy
L665[17:17:26] <g> my point is that I don't know what filters you mean
L666[17:17:26] <g> :P
L667[17:17:35] <rashy> haha xD I was supposed to work on that, wasn't I? >.>
L668[17:17:46] <Vexatos> rashy, on BC's doc? No
L669[17:17:52] <Vexatos> BC doesn't even have a manual yet
L670[17:17:53] <Vexatos> :P
L671[17:17:55] <g> but mekanism, storage drawers and tconstructs have fantastic oredict support, and they're all the better for it
L672[17:17:56] <rashy> ohhh
L673[17:18:01] <g> tconstruct*
L674[17:18:07] <rashy> I vaguely remember something about asie wanting to implement it
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L676[17:18:13] <rashy> memory is a bit hazy though
L677[17:18:19] <Vexatos> g: StorageDrawers are either whitelist-based or bad
L678[17:18:30] <Vexatos> Mek and TCon only care about input
L679[17:18:34] <g> storagedrawers has special drawers designed for metal
L680[17:18:38] <Vexatos> no need to break immersion anywhere
L681[17:18:42] <Vexatos> Mek's oredict item is bad
L682[17:18:42] <g> no, mek has filtering, eg on the digiminer
L683[17:18:47] <Vexatos> and you should feel bad for using it
L684[17:18:49] <Vexatos> or the digiminer
L685[17:19:17] <Vexatos> g: Metals? I have a solution for you
L686[17:19:17] <g> storagedrawers' compression drawers only store one type of metal at once, but it automatically converts it between ingots, blocks and nuggets as you take metals out
L687[17:19:22] <Vexatos> Railcraft's Metal Chest
L688[17:19:28] * rashy abused the fuck out of the digiminer on an old server
L689[17:19:40] <g> but it oredicts the metals automatically so that all ingotCopper for example goes to the same drawer
L690[17:21:01] <g> also mek's digiminer is great, I'm lazy k
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L695[17:24:58] <omglolbah> g: I still dont knmow what you're trying to achieve with the oredict access
L696[17:25:07] <g> it doesn't matter anymore
L697[17:25:09] <g> forget I said anything
L698[17:25:52] <omglolbah> uh.... okthen
L699[17:26:10] <omglolbah> Cant really tell you if openp would help you if I dont know what you're doing so... *returns to HOTS*
L700[17:26:10] <g> don't really care enough to continue arguing about it
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L704[17:39:45] <g>
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L715[18:10:35] <Turtle> .-. What was the mod block/whatever that let you extract items with at least X items in a stack?
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L717[18:20:05] <Lizzy> !flags LordFokas +vV
L718[18:20:05] -zsh- Lizzy set flags +Vv on LordFokas.
L719[18:20:05] zsh sets mode: +v on LordFokas
L720[18:20:47] <LordFokas> oh, shiny :)
L721[18:20:58] <Lizzy> you had voice before
L722[18:21:06] <LordFokas> I know
L723[18:21:38] <LordFokas> I haven't been around enough
L724[18:22:19] <LordFokas> but I've recently got a huge itch to pick up modding again, which probably means I'll be active on IRC soon enough
L725[18:22:34] <Turtle> \o/
L726[18:22:38] <rashy> (y)
L727[18:23:11] <LordFokas> I also seem to have gotten a literal itch
L728[18:23:18] * LordFokas scratches himself
L729[18:23:31] <rashy> >.> sorry
L730[18:24:01] <LordFokas> heh
L731[18:25:04] <Kimiro> Rashy is one of the less popular 19 dwarves.
L732[18:25:34] <Kimiro> Along with Bleedy, Screamy and Touchy and Feely.
L733[18:25:37] <rashy> I don't blame the other 18, I am contagious xD
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L755[21:05:53] <Shuudoushi> http://goo.gl/46uAHR
L756[21:22:54] <AlexisMachina> Kodos you here ?
L757[21:23:56] <AlexisMachina> GRRR
L758[21:23:57] <Kodos> Yes
L759[21:24:06] <Kodos> Sorry, was assisting the missus
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L764[22:05:01] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/nUc4R/e2c50a0949.png Well, that seems excessive
L765[22:17:10] <Kodos> Rimworld is weird
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L768[22:26:22] <Temia> Kodos, rule of thumb is not to get exposed to lethal amounts of radiation
L769[22:26:35] <Kodos> I was in creative mode
L770[22:26:54] <Temia> Fair enough. It'd probably kill you in two seconds if you went out of it
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L772[22:27:44] <rashy> mmm, radiation
L773[22:28:01] <rashy> debating on this for wall-mounting my pc http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133283
L774[22:28:35] * rashy snuggles Temia
L775[22:29:24] * Temia eeps. o-o
L776[22:29:45] <rashy> no moo today? ;P
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L780[22:51:52] <Kodos> Which one of you speaks portuguese again
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L782[23:08:00] <Shuudoushi> ;seen Magik6k
L783[23:08:02] <Shuudoushi> ...
L784[23:08:15] <Shuudoushi> which fucking bot has seen?
L785[23:09:49] <Mimiru> God damn Michi-Fucking-Bot
L786[23:10:02] <Mimiru> What fucking bot do we have here that even HAS a ; prefix?
L787[23:10:09] * Mimiru bans Shuudoushi
L788[23:10:23] <Shuudoushi> oh yeah... that's kmath from #kspmodders...
L789[23:10:39] <Shuudoushi> what's MichiBots prefix again?
L790[23:10:47] <Mimiru> q_q
L791[23:10:56] <Mimiru> %flip Shuudoushi
L792[23:10:56] <MichiBot> Mimiru: (╯°□°）╯︵ıɥsnopnnɥS
L793[23:10:57] <rashy> %
L794[23:11:05] <rashy> %seen michibot
L795[23:11:06] <MichiBot> rashy: michibot has not been seen.
L796[23:11:12] <rashy> xD
L797[23:11:17] <Shuudoushi> it's been forever and there's like 5 bots in here -_-
L798[23:11:23] <Shuudoushi> XD
L799[23:11:32] <Mimiru> a.) It's case sensitive and b.) Only joins trigger michibot to update it's own "seen" time
L800[23:11:37] <Shuudoushi> %seen Magik6k
L801[23:11:37] <Mimiru> %seen MichiBot
L802[23:11:38] <MichiBot> Shuudoushi: Magik6k was last seen 1d 19h 52m 2s ago.
L803[23:11:39] <MichiBot> Mimiru: MichiBot was last seen 17m 12s ago.
L804[23:11:57] <rashy> and here I thought michibot was being sassy
L805[23:12:04] <Shuudoushi> lol
L806[23:12:07] <rashy> disappointed that you didn't account for that ;P
L807[23:12:13] <Shuudoushi> Mimiru will likely add that now
L808[23:12:17] <Mimiru> Nah
L809[23:12:19] <Mimiru> effort.
L810[23:13:08] <Shuudoushi> lol, lazy fucker
L811[23:13:39] <Mimiru> 17 minutes though...
L812[23:14:20] <Mimiru> MichiBot, hasn't joined.. and no one has talked via Corded...
L813[23:14:23] <Mimiru> so why 17... OH
L814[23:14:24] <Mimiru> Right
L815[23:14:33] <Shuudoushi> ?
L816[23:14:35] <Mimiru> Because 17 minutes ago I joined MichiBot to another channel
L817[23:14:40] <Shuudoushi> lol
L818[23:14:49] <Mimiru> Which triggered it to update it's own time...
L819[23:15:03] <Mimiru> messages update it for others.. but MichiBot doesn't watch it's own messages
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L821[23:15:47] <Mimiru> %seen Corded
L822[23:15:47] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Corded was last seen 6h 49m 1s ago.
L823[23:16:18] <Mimiru> I don't wanna work tomorrow
L824[23:16:36] * rashy pats Mimiru
L825[23:17:05] <Shuudoushi> eh
L826[23:17:32] <Shuudoushi> starting next week I get to chop up a mustang and use it's parts to build another mustang
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L828[23:18:39] <Shuudoushi> and still with this bullshit... http://goo.gl/MTcG8x
L829[23:18:43] <Lymia> Hi. Where do you go to report security bugs? I'm pretty sure the github issue tracker isn't an appropriate place to do that.
L830[23:19:12] <Kodos> here's usually safe
L831[23:19:15] <Kodos> Usually
L832[23:19:15] <Mimiru> Lymia, GitHub, or OC forums and PM Sangar? IRC Query will work too, if he doesn't lose connection
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L834[23:20:25] <Shuudoushi> all we normally do when we read about a sec bug is exploit it for a few days then patch it out of existence anyway
L835[23:21:17] <Shuudoushi> wtf?
L836[23:21:19] <Shuudoushi> http://goo.gl/kfQ4Wq
L837[23:22:19] <Shuudoushi> at least now it's a new error... http://goo.gl/IzGuaU
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L839[23:22:49] <Lymia> kk. When's Sangar usually on, then?
L840[23:23:04] <Mimiru> Yes...
L841[23:23:08] <Shuudoushi> I'm thinking my updater fucked up some place...
L842[23:23:12] <Mimiru> There is no "Usual" really :P
L843[23:23:21] <Lymia> ... ah. :P
L844[23:23:25] <Lymia> Maybe I'll just put up github issues then
L845[23:23:29] <rashy> sangar is a mystery. he's on when he wants to be on.
L846[23:23:31] <Lymia> Does anybody run Windows servers with OC on them.
L847[23:23:37] <rashy> github issue is a safe bet
L848[23:23:40] <Mimiru> Ewwwww..
L849[23:23:56] <rashy> I still think "windows server" is an oxymoron
L850[23:24:01] <Mimiru> I say... with 3 windows servers to my name
L851[23:24:01] <Izaya> why would you ever use windows server
L852[23:24:03] <Izaya> for anything
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L854[23:24:07] <Izaya> (except mail)
L855[23:24:12] <Mimiru> Yes... mail
L856[23:24:12] <Izaya> (or AD DS)
L857[23:24:14] <rashy> active directory
L858[23:24:23] <rashy> although, zentyal is a good replacement
L859[23:24:27] <Mimiru> Bast is my mail server, cause hMailServer makes mail not suck balls
L860[23:24:27] <rashy> or samba4
L861[23:24:41] * Izaya weeps and remembers he has to maintain several Windows servers
L862[23:24:44] <Lymia> It's not a big deal, but, uh.
L863[23:24:47] <Izaya> and I was just beginning to enjoy my weekend
L864[23:25:01] <Lymia> Some of the filesystem sanitation code is in the class for buffered filesystems.
L865[23:25:04] <Lymia> And you can turn buffering off.
L866[23:25:21] <Mimiru> o_O
L867[23:25:29] <Lymia> (In the configuration)
L868[23:25:34] <Izaya> so this bug only affects Windows or..?
L869[23:25:38] <gamax92> Lymia: your nicknaem is familiar
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L871[23:25:44] <Lymia> On Windows, it lets you write any file to the server.
L872[23:25:45] <Kodos> gamax92, #computercraft
L873[23:25:49] <gamax92> that's why
L874[23:25:53] <Izaya> ... ouch
L875[23:25:56] <Lymia> On Linux, it just lets you delete every single computer ever. :c
L876[23:25:56] <Shuudoushi> I don't understand this... http://goo.gl/IzGuaU
L877[23:26:02] <Izaya> that said, I do- oh
L878[23:26:08] <Lymia> But not write arbitrary files, so.
L879[23:26:21] <gamax92> You had one job Sangar.
L880[23:26:29] <Lymia> It's OK.
L881[23:26:31] <Lymia> Default configuration is safe.
L882[23:26:34] <Lymia> ... I thik.
L883[23:26:35] <Lymia> think*
L884[23:26:43] <Mimiru> Let me just turn buffered files back on now....
L885[23:26:49] <Izaya> I'm pretty sure most servers use buffered FS
L886[23:27:05] <Shuudoushi> Mimiru: but knowing this flaw will help me with updating my shit T.T
L887[23:27:20] <Izaya> anyway I'd say it's probably safe to just put it on the issue tracker
L888[23:27:26] <Mimiru> I have a linux box, but my mc server has oc's buffered fs disabled
L889[23:27:30] <Mimiru> Shuudoushi, how so?
L890[23:27:51] <Shuudoushi> I forgot you're smart and have the server on a linux box, so nvm...
L891[23:27:56] <dmod> hi ppl
L892[23:28:01] <Shuudoushi> o/
L893[23:28:05] <Lymia> There's also a minor bug in the first line of defense filename sanitation... which is why I can delete all the computers ever.
L894[23:28:39] <gamax92> is it the fact that you can list ".."
L895[23:28:49] <Kodos> Mimiru, do you still have the code from the ICBM Component mod
L896[23:28:51] <Kodos> dmod, Howdy
L897[23:29:11] <Kodos> Mimiru, nevermind, I'm blind
L898[23:29:14] <Mimiru> Kodos, funny enough.... I found it this morning
L899[23:29:23] <Mimiru> Kodos, bizzy deleted his repo
L900[23:29:23] <Kodos> Oh good, because Bizzy's link doesn't work
L901[23:29:25] <Kodos> yeah
L902[23:29:29] <Mimiru> so afaik, I have the only copy
L903[23:29:52] <Kodos> #icbm =D
L904[23:30:00] <Mimiru> Ha fuck...
L905[23:30:03] <Mimiru> it's 1.6
L906[23:30:12] <Kodos> Lol
L907[23:30:13] <Kodos> Indeed
L908[23:30:22] <Mimiru> I had a 1.7 build iirc...
L909[23:30:59] <Lymia> gamax92, yes, actually.
L910[23:35:13] <Mimiru> Kodos, https://github.com/CaitlynMainer/ICBMComponent As soon as it pushes
L911[23:35:30] <dmod> but yea Mimiru we have 1.7.10 builds :P
L912[23:35:50] <dmod> http://builtbroken.com/pages/icbm/1.7/downloads.php
L913[23:35:53] <Mimiru> Yeah, I'm aware
L914[23:36:31] <Lymia> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers
L915[23:36:37] <Lymia> This is the main repo, right?
L916[23:36:41] <Mimiru> yes
L917[23:36:47] <Lymia> MightyPirates != Sangar, so..
L918[23:36:48] <Lymia> Am checking.
L919[23:37:03] <Kodos> You want fnuecke
L920[23:37:21] <Mimiru> dmod, if you guys don't have built in OC compat, I could update ICBMComponent for 1.7
L921[23:37:22] <Kodos> if you're wanting to tag Sanger
L922[23:37:48] <Kodos> Mimiru, you might want to check out the new ICBM before you declare that
L923[23:38:22] <Lymia> How do you tag someone on Github?
L924[23:38:32] <Lymia> Just @, right
L925[23:38:35] <dmod> @<username>
L926[23:39:07] <Mimiru> Kodos, why....
L927[23:39:33] <Kodos> AMS, FoF Systems, silos, launchers, portable launchers, uhh
L928[23:39:41] <Kodos> dmod halp
L929[23:40:03] <dmod> http://builtbroken.com/pages/icbm/wiki/
L930[23:42:40] <dmod> does that help you Kodos?
L931[23:42:56] <Kodos> Well at least it has names of things
L932[23:42:58] <Kodos> It'll do =D
L933[23:44:11] <Lymia> Meh. Maybe I'll go poke at OC more later. ComputerCraft already fixed most things that you can fix without ditching LuaJ. :p
L934[23:44:43] <Kodos> Including the bug that only took Dan2h what, 3 years to fix?
L935[23:45:19] <Mimiru> K.. so I'm not sure if this list was supposed to scare me or something Kodos...
L936[23:46:05] <Kodos> if the list doesn't, the 40-64 block long missiles will (Once they're done)
L937[23:46:06] <Lymia> getmetatable on strings?
L938[23:46:46] <Kodos> Maybe. Whichever one it was that would brick computers until a server restart (including newly placed ones)
L939[23:46:58] <gamax92> Lymia: Why not play with the LuaJ in OC then :P
L940[23:47:08] <Lymia> I think that one has something to do with coroutine?
L941[23:47:12] <gamax92> It's been getting various fixes and updates too
L942[23:47:15] <Mimiru> I still don;t see why this would bother me... I'm working in code here... I don't care how big the missiles are, I just set stuff on the controller and fire atm :P
L943[23:47:19] <Lymia> I think that's LuaJ being dumb.
L944[23:47:46] <Lymia> LuaJ uses a thread.
L945[23:47:49] <Lymia> For every coroutine
L946[23:48:18] <gamax92> Kodos: oh you mean like what I did on PCL?
L947[23:48:20] <gamax92> sorry Mimiru
L948[23:48:34] <Mimiru> Wait.. what?
L949[23:48:45] <gamax92> CC computers aren't waking up anymore
L950[23:49:01] <Kodos> getmetatable("").__index=nil
L951[23:49:02] <Kodos> That one
L952[23:49:06] <Lymia> ah
L953[23:49:10] <Kodos> Knew I had it around here somewhere
L954[23:49:13] <Mimiru> God damn it
L955[23:49:15] <Lymia> That one's long fixed
L956[23:49:29] <Kodos> Lymia, yeah, but it stood unfixed for years, literally
L957[23:49:34] <gamax92> I thought getmetatable is only supposed to take tables
L958[23:49:41] <Kodos> Despite being reported ages ago
L959[23:49:43] <gamax92> and that you had to use debug.getmetatable for the other types
L960[23:49:43] <Lymia> Later, I found out you could write getfenv(("").gsub) and still get the string metatable.
L961[23:50:00] <Lymia> And that got fixed... but when fixing that, IIRC, dan broke the fix on getmetatable("")
L962[23:50:22] <Lymia> And now it's fixed, until dan decides to update to 5.3
L963[23:50:33] <Mimiru> "long fixed" Not on my version of MC/CC it seems... :P
L964[23:50:39] <gamax92> LuaJ isn't out for 5.3 ...
L965[23:50:42] <Izaya> so some time in the next hundred years?
L966[23:50:54] <Lymia> When he updates to 5.3, there will then be local string_mt getmetatable(setmetatable({}, {__eq = function (t, mt) string_mt = mt end}))
L967[23:51:04] <gamax92> Lymia: luaj isn't out for 5.3
L968[23:51:32] <Kodos> I wonder
L969[23:51:34] <Kodos> !devoice
L970[23:51:34] zsh sets mode: -v on Kodos
L971[23:51:36] <Kodos> !voice
L972[23:51:36] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
L973[23:51:37] <Kodos> =D
L974[23:51:46] <Mimiru> !deop
L975[23:51:46] zsh sets mode: -o on Mimiru
L976[23:51:50] <Mimiru> !voice
L977[23:51:50] zsh sets mode: +v on Mimiru
L978[23:51:52] <Mimiru> :P
L979[23:51:55] <Kodos> !op
L980[23:51:56] <dmod> Mimiru: DarkCow also set it so turrets won't shoot down your missiles anymore :P
L981[23:51:57] <Kodos> D'aww
L982[23:52:13] <Lymia> What's the fun in ICMBs
L983[23:52:26] <Lymia> When you can just use linking books and sufficiently large explosives
L984[23:52:37] <Kodos> I'll tell you
L985[23:52:59] <Kodos> Nothing can replace the sounds you hear on Teamspeak as the panic sets in from them hearing the scream of an ICBM coming their way, and the fear in their voice from not knowing which warhead you used
L986[23:53:25] <Lymia> But it's also fun hearing the panic when everything blows up out of nowhere.
L987[23:53:27] <Lymia> And keeps blowing up
L988[23:53:30] <Lymia> With no source in sight.
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L990[23:53:47] <Kodos> At that point, I'd just use OC to spawn in a primed TNT Entity with 0 fuse time
L991[23:54:09] <Dark> My favorite thing to do, is them them with cake
L992[23:54:17] <Dark> *is send them
L993[23:54:27] <Dark> they panic, then get cake
L994[23:54:36] <Kodos> Dark, I need a warhead that lets me send an entity
L995[23:54:37] <Dark> repeat a few times and they will start to turn off the force field
L996[23:54:44] <Kodos> Missile-delivered horse breeding service
L997[23:54:54] <Dark> planned, but not the breeding part
L998[23:54:58] <Kodos> Obviously
L999[23:55:00] <Dark> technically the code is already implemented
L1000[23:55:01] <Kodos> I'd do that separately
L1001[23:55:06] <Dark> but not the crafting
L1002[23:55:41] <Lymia> Too bad CC is 5.1 and OC is 5.2/5.3
L1003[23:55:42] <Kodos> I wonder what I could use OpenPrinter for with ICBM
L1004[23:55:52] <Lymia> It'd be fun to try and write a OS that works on both.
L1005[23:55:59] <Lymia> .... well, I guess I still could.
L1006[23:56:05] <Dark> Kodos if I add support to access the missile reports
L1007[23:56:09] <Dark> you could print them
L1008[23:56:12] <Lymia> CC allows bytecode loading, so, I could probably write a 5.3 to 5.1 byecode compiler.
L1009[23:56:12] <Kodos> That'd work
L1010[23:56:16] <Dark> launchers track every missile fired
L1011[23:56:23] <rashy> add a fac component to OpenPrinters. make sure you target has one too.
L1012[23:56:29] <rashy> fax*
L1013[23:56:33] <Kodos> I already have programs for reactor stats and specs, and TPS reports
L1014[23:56:39] <Kodos> And filing cabinets to stick them in
L1015[23:56:45] <Dark> nice
L1016[23:56:57] <Dark> miss my old CC programs actually
L1017[23:57:04] <Dark> use to have one that emailed me when automation failed
L1018[23:57:04] <Lymia> It...
L1019[23:57:08] <Dark> or when bots got lost
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L1021[23:57:23] <Kodos> Technically you could do that with OC provided you knew what you were doing, I would think
L1022[23:57:32] <Lymia> Shouldn't be hard to adjust my old CC sandbox code to emulate an OC computer.
L1023[23:57:38] <Dark> I know I can, just never got back into the lau computer stuff in MC
L1024[23:57:39] <Lymia> Actually.
L1025[23:57:39] <Lymia> Er.
L1026[23:57:41] <Dark> too much work
L1027[23:57:42] <Kodos> Lymia, ocemu
L1028[23:57:44] <Lymia> That is, emulate CC on an OC computer.
L1029[23:57:48] <Kodos> Oh
L1030[23:57:57] <Lymia> It's outdated as heck though.
L1031[23:58:04] <Lymia> And emulates a super-outdated CC version.
L1032[23:58:46] <Kodos> Once I get my food put away, I'm gonna throw ICBM into my RF pack, and see about getting a missile factory set up
L1033[23:58:52] <Kodos> Dark, I need stackable missiles :x
L1034[23:58:56] <Kodos> For aesthetics
L1035[23:59:25] <Kodos> x x
L1036[23:59:27] <Kodos> x x x
L1037[23:59:29] <Kodos> Something like that
L1038[23:59:42] <Dark> Planned
L1039[23:59:46] <Kodos> I'd use the missile station, but it renders gray sti- Oh nice
L1040[23:59:49] <Lymia> meh
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