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L19[04:00:18] <greaser|q> considering
there's always a bloody lua bytecode attack, i believe eris has
bytecode loading disabled, or at least machine.lua has
L20[04:00:37] <greaser|q> also, please
strangle whoever wrote that
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L22[04:09:48] <KittyKath> greaser|q: Why
should I?
L23[04:10:28] <greaser|q> it's got
something to do with the fact that the guy who posted it on WOOYUN
can't seem to tell the diff between an acronym and a WORD
L24[04:10:45] <KittyKath> Not like we had
to add the LUA trigger to EnderBot2...
L25[04:10:45] <EnderBot2> Lua*
L26[04:16:10] <greaser|q> that trigger is
definitely necessary at least in some places
L27[04:16:17] <greaser|q> even the ones
which don't have the trigger
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L29[04:19:06] <KittyKath> Oh gosh, this FBI
vs Apple case has become so much propaganda rethoric it would be
funny if it wasn't the DOJ vs the one company that cares less about
your privacy than Google.
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L36[04:51:00] <Lizzy> \o/
L37[04:58:50] *
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is soft and nice
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L40[05:00:17] *
Lizzy can't wait till the 2nd of April
L41[05:00:28] <KittyKath> ^^
L42[05:00:38] <Lizzy> ^_^
L43[05:00:50] <Lizzy> (>^_^<)
L44[05:04:43] <Lizzy> I think this morning
was the first day I've woken up and walking hasn't felt like a
chore in a long while
L45[05:06:10] *
KittyKath is happy Lizzy is so happy ^^
L47[05:10:55] *
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L51[05:33:39] <g> hm, I wonder what the
best way to measure power flow with OC would be..
L52[05:35:18] <g> ah, enderio power monitor
maybe
L53[06:02:23] <Izaya> KittyKath: the scary
thing about the Apple v FBI case is that so few people are
realising, oh wait, it's
Apple. That, or they don't care,
which I sadly think is more likely.
L54[06:11:15] <KittyKath> The thing is the
FBI got everything from Apple they asked for in the case, the
iPhone was just a minor detail. I'm not sure but I have the feeling
it was basically the FBI just wanting to show off how much they
made Apple their bitch and Apple just didn't want that kind of bad
PR.
L55[06:14:22] <Izaya> My theory is that the
FBI got to divert attention from the rest of everything they're
doing and Apple got good PR so it was good for both sides
L58[06:18:20] <g> why is term nil in
centerText?
L59[06:23:49] <g> hm, yeah, that was pretty
odd, renaming the module from util to tool fixed it
L60[06:24:01] <Inari> g: :o whats that
font
L61[06:24:10] <g> I'm using a snapshot
build
L62[06:24:22] <Inari> looks pretty
L63[06:25:20] <g> (that function does not
work by the way)
L64[06:27:57] <Izaya> I'm a fucking
idiot.
L65[06:28:05] <Izaya> If I want push
notifications, why not make an XMPP bot?
L66[06:28:17] <g> eh? why xmpp?
L67[06:28:38] <Izaya> Because my XMPP
client is always running?
L68[06:29:01] <g> wat, people use
xmpp?
L69[06:29:07] <Izaya> yes?
L70[06:29:10] <g> ..wait, I think I said
that last time..
L72[06:30:06] <g> that does not look
centered
L73[06:30:30] <Izaya> interesting, my
adblocker drops dropbox URLs
L74[06:30:38] <Izaya> I should look into
that
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L76[06:32:49] <Izaya> I could also use
IRC
L77[06:32:54] <Izaya> but my IRC connection
is rather unstable
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L80[06:34:11] <g> are spaces not monospace
in this font?
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L82[06:34:28] <g> hm, no, they are
L84[06:35:29] <g> (is there some editor
with text highlighting by the way?)
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L86[06:36:54] <KittyKath> g: Out of game?
Everyone. In-game you need tier 3 graphics & screens
L87[06:37:04] <g> I have tier 3 graphics
and screens
L88[06:37:09] <KittyKath> huh
L89[06:37:25] <KittyKath> Maybe its a
different editor then. No idea
L90[06:37:29] <g> is "edit" just
not the right command?
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L93[06:41:43] <g> requires are cached out
of process?
L94[06:42:04] <g> that would have been good
to know
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L96[06:42:20] <g> fixed it, anyways
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L100[06:44:42] <vifino> What's the second
april, Lizzy?
L101[06:44:44] <Snapples> No 1.9 branch
for OC yet?
L102[06:44:49] <Snapples> I'm
disappointed.
L103[06:44:58] <g> hahahaha
L105[06:45:06] * g
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L106[06:45:22] <Izaya> Phone has been up
for 87 days
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L108[06:54:55] <Izaya> MC 1.9 is
out?
L109[06:56:25] <vifino> Apparently.
L110[06:57:55] <Izaya> Huh.
L111[06:59:03] <Lizzy> vifino, :£
L112[06:59:04] <Lizzy> :3
L113[06:59:32] <vifino> :3
L114[06:59:57] <vifino> Oh, right. *cough*
LIZZY!!!
L115[07:00:10] *
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L118[07:00:32] <vifino> :3
L119[07:01:25] <vifino> Izaya: I'm
actually surprised how well my luaforth is actually expandable and
can *actually* be used instead of a small toy thing.
L120[07:01:52] <vifino> I also added all
sorts of tests and stuff. Proven Working(tm).
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L128[07:13:06] <g> How do I force a
process down, again?
L129[07:13:20] <vifino> magic.
L130[07:13:25] <vifino> ctrl-alt-c
L131[07:13:28] <g> (and why is there no
default keys list on the wiki?)
L132[07:13:36] <vifino> or...
ctrl-shift-c?
L133[07:13:36] <g> nothing happened
L134[07:13:38] <vifino> dunno.
L135[07:13:44] <g> neither of those did
anything
L137[07:13:51] <vifino> hold it for a
bit
L138[07:13:52] <vifino> 3 seconds
L139[07:13:56] <g> ah right
L140[07:14:05] <g> I somehow crashed the
process
L141[07:14:08] <g> so.. kinda
success?
L143[07:14:11] <vifino> good job.
L144[07:14:34] *
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instructions
L145[07:14:47] <g> for some reason
os.execute("resolution 50 15") is doing nothing in my rc
script
L146[07:14:55] <g> but it happily launches
my actual script
L147[07:15:27] <g> unless there's a better
way to set the default res?
L148[07:15:32] <fingercomp> .shrc? then
`resolution 50 15` would be enough
L149[07:15:41] <g> didn't know that was a
thing
L150[07:16:07] <vifino> new openos is
magic.
L151[07:16:14] <g> yep, that set it
L152[07:16:19] <vifino> or so I'm
told.
L153[07:16:28] <g> it's got a race
condition though
L154[07:16:36] <g> the next process starts
up too quickly and gets the old resolution
L155[07:17:47] <Snapples> Izaya: 1.9 is
out for a few days now.
L156[07:17:58] <Snapples> There are
already around 200 mods for it on curse.
L157[07:18:46] <g> there we go, adding a
sleep did it
L159[07:19:29] <g> no idea why power flow
of nothing is actually 20
L160[07:19:30] <g> but hey
L161[07:19:39] <g> also, I found a typo in
an api, I guess I'll go pr that..
L162[07:20:42] <g> ..huh, I guess it's in
enderio
L165[07:23:03] <g> well I can't find
it
L167[07:23:08] <g> the power monitor has a
method, "getMaxPowerInCoduits"
L168[07:23:12] <g> it should be
"getMaxPowerInConduits"
L169[07:23:29] <g> github search is not
helping :P
L170[07:30:04] *
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L171[07:35:12] <fingercomp> g:
Computronics/src/main/java/pl/asie/computronics/integration/enderio/DriverPowerMonitor.java
(lines 43, 147)?
L172[07:37:02] <g> ah, computronics
L173[07:37:04] <g> Vexatos!
L174[07:37:11] <Vexatos> me
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L176[07:37:36] <g> you're part of that
right?
L178[07:40:11] <g> hm, I can't seem to
extract the stored power from the power monitor
L181[07:41:53] <Vexatos> .-.
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L183[07:42:20] <g> Vexatos: well I dunno,
the current version I have seems to match the latest release on the
site
L184[07:42:33] <g> unless this was fixed
after that?
L185[07:42:40] <Vexatos> It was
L187[07:43:06] <g> ah, okay
L188[07:43:30] <g> have you used those
power monitors before?
L189[07:43:31] <Vexatos> :3
L190[07:43:34] <g> I can't seem to extract
any power from it
L191[07:43:54] <g> it keeps an internal
buffer for tracking but I can't exactly measure output when there's
no output :P
L192[07:45:24] <g> oh, I see
L193[07:45:29] <g> it's not supposed to be
in line
L194[07:46:34] <g> or.. is it? hm
L195[07:47:41] <g> this is very
confusing
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L198[08:02:09] <Vexatos> It is not
L199[08:05:58] <g> man I hate writing code
like this
L200[08:06:10] <g> and I kinda wonder why
text doesn't already have a middle pad function, but anyway..
L201[08:07:21] <CompanionCube> looked in
selene?
L202[08:07:27] <CompanionCube> selene has
loads of useful shit
L203[08:07:32] <g> No idea what that
is
L204[08:08:12] <g> there's a text.wrap
function
L205[08:08:21] <g> but uh
L206[08:08:22] <g>
"text.wrap(value:string, width:number,
maxWidth:number)"
L207[08:08:26] <g> "Wraps the
provided string to specified width."
L208[08:08:31] <g> that doesn't really
help me understand what it does
L210[08:09:17] <g> not what I need
anyway
L212[08:12:56] <g> that doesn't have
anything like that as far as I can see
L213[08:13:02] <g> (and I dunno how I'd
get it into OC)
L215[08:13:12] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L216[08:15:36] <g> I can't find anything
that does this via google either
L218[08:15:42] <g> why is this such an
unusual thing?
L219[08:16:23] <Vexatos> g: oppm install
selene-openos
L220[08:16:26] <Vexatos> NOT THAT HARD I
SWEAR
L221[08:16:55] <Vexatos> then edit
/etc/selene.cfg and turn on liveMode
L222[08:17:00] <Vexatos> reboot
L223[08:17:04] <Vexatos> find bugs
L224[08:17:06] <g> okay, but it doesn't
have what I need anyway
L226[08:17:15] <Vexatos> what do you
need?
L227[08:17:25] <g> a function to pad a
string on both sides to the specified width
L229[08:17:39] <g> I need to specifically
have that instead of using term to position it because the length
changes
L231[08:18:21] <Vexatos> something like
this?
L232[08:18:34] <Vexatos> it only adds
padding on the right side
L233[08:18:39] <g> I need padding on both
sides
L235[08:18:42] <Vexatos> but it's super
easy to center it
L236[08:18:54] <g> also, I honestly can't
read that
L237[08:19:07] <Vexatos> just ((d - #num)
/ 2) on both sides
L238[08:19:22] <Vexatos> instead of (d -
#num) on one side
L239[08:19:58] <g> I'll just show you what
I have, will I? :P
L241[08:20:31] <Vexatos> the hell is that
screen ratio
L242[08:20:33] <Vexatos> D:
L243[08:20:46] <Vexatos> anyways, need to
move some wood around. bbl
L244[08:20:50] <Vexatos> (sorry)
L245[08:20:52] <g> it's not the
default
L247[08:20:56] <g> that's all
L248[08:21:04] <g> I just set it to
something arbitrary because it was 50x15
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L250[09:18:49] ***
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L251[09:22:53] *
Michiyo sighs
L252[09:23:00] <Michiyo> Stay classy
Arkansas...
L253[09:23:03] <Michiyo> I need to move
:/
L254[09:23:32] <Michiyo> Like.... maybe
somewhere other than the US..
L255[09:23:42] <KittyKath> Canada
\o/
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L257[09:29:16] <Lizzy> Michiyo, the UK! or
Germany, either one works
L258[09:30:12] <Michiyo> Just looking for
something a touch more Trans friendly than this shithole...
:P
L259[09:30:33] <KittyKath> Germany
L260[09:30:41] <KittyKath> You'd be
surprised
L261[09:32:34] *
Lizzy hugs KittyKath
L262[09:32:39] *
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L263[09:32:48] <Michiyo> A city councilor
in a city not far from me, went into a restaurant, and *demanded*
to know his server's gender identity and said he'd show her his
dick to prove he was male. The kicker, the server was female,
presented female, and was not ambiguous in any way. Be he continued
demanding to know if she was male/female.
L264[09:32:53] *
Michiyo hugs Lizzy
L265[09:33:14] ***
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L266[09:33:29] <Michiyo> And the comments
on the FB post just make me very sad..
L267[09:33:37] <Gavle> So
L268[09:33:55] *
KittyKath hugs Michiyo
L269[09:34:03] *
KittyKath hugs Lizzy too
L270[09:34:12] *
Michiyo hugs KittyKath
L271[09:34:18] <Michiyo> Hugfest
2016
L272[09:34:29] <Gavle> A linked card
receiving a message from its companions generates a standard modem
message event, right?
L273[09:34:40] <Gavle> Companion*
L274[09:34:57] <Michiyo> iirc, yes
L275[09:35:05] <Gavle> Ok
L276[09:35:10] <Michiyo> it's been a while
since I played with Linked Cards though
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L278[09:35:29] <Michiyo> It has been a
while since I played with OC for that matter.. :p
L279[09:35:36] <Gavle> Say I have two
computers with linked cards
L280[09:35:51] <Gavle> The receiver is not
in a loaded chunk, and the sender is
L281[09:35:52] <Michiyo> You have two
computers with linked cards
L282[09:36:21] <Gavle> If the sender sends
a message, will the receiver receive it once its chunk becomes
loaded?
L283[09:36:32] <Michiyo> I have no idea on
that
L284[09:37:02] <Gavle> Ok
L285[09:37:16] <Michiyo> I've always had
both ends chunkloaded
L286[09:37:59] <Gavle> As a generic
question, how strenuous on the real server is a computer under the
effects of os.sleep()
L287[09:38:42] <Gavle> If I have say, 100
servers all sleeping, will that cause a lot of lag?
L288[09:41:04] <Gavle> Anybody know?
L289[09:41:11] <Michiyo> I would assume
no... but then again I've never had 100 computers sleeping...
L290[09:41:38] <Gavle> Ah
L291[09:42:06] <Gavle> Well, I have a
situation that calls for lots of linked cards, and I wanted to know
if it was feasible lag wise
L292[09:42:16] <Gavle> Perhaps it is
L293[09:42:49] <Gavle> If so, that would
be fantastic, as it widens my playbook
L294[09:42:49] <fingercomp> Gavle:
os.sleep uses event.pull, which is also used by OpenOS command
prompt. There are more than 100 running computers on the server
where I play. And nothing really bad happened. So the answer is
"no".
L295[09:43:12] <Gavle> Thank you
fingercomp
L296[09:43:45] <Gavle> I can now add a
project to my list
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L298[09:49:51] *
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L299[09:49:52] <vifino> :D
L300[09:50:07] <vifino> A bit late to the
party, but oh well.
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L302[09:51:12] <reinei> o/
L303[09:51:27] ***
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L305[09:57:22] *
Michiyo hugs vifino too
L306[09:57:48] * g
watches Vexatos' empty chair
L307[09:58:06] <Vexatos> ._.
L308[09:58:13] <g> oh, you're back
L310[09:58:19] <reinei> thats a ._. combo
from vexatos!
L311[09:58:28] <reinei> current streak:
2
L312[09:58:48] <Vexatos> 4*
L313[09:58:49] <g> I didn't see anything
from him since he went afk :P
L314[09:58:50] <reinei> yeah
L315[09:59:16] <reinei> g, he just
answered 3 of my texts with a ._. and one of yours in 4 different
chats
L316[09:59:29] <g> ah okay
L317[09:59:32] <reinei> meaning he sent
._. in a row 4 times ...
L318[09:59:37] <g> Vexatos, did you get a
sec to look at that screenshot?
L319[09:59:38] <reinei> and then he broke
that perfect chain
L320[09:59:40] <g> I'm not sure what I'm
doing wrong
L321[09:59:45] <Vexatos> I didn't
L322[09:59:57] <Vexatos> I don't like
dealing with formatting unless I have to :P
L323[10:00:12] <reinei> formatting of
strings or disk spcae?
L324[10:00:18] <reinei> space*
L325[10:00:25] <g> strings
L326[10:00:33] <g> I can't figure out how
to pad both sides of this string equally
L327[10:00:46] <Vexatos> reinei, sudo
shred -fuz /dev/sda1
L328[10:00:49] <g> I want it to be
centered on the screen by padding it with spaces, so it overwrites
the entire line
L330[10:01:04] <reinei> ok, lemme have a
look, please?=
L332[10:01:16] <g> thanks
L333[10:03:05] <reinei> is the text
supposed to be printed exactly in the middle of the screen or only
pad out to the left and right edge?
L334[10:03:42] <g> well, the end goal is
to get it printed in the middle
L335[10:03:49] <g> but I'll be doing this
in the loop and the length of the text printed might change
L336[10:03:56] <g> so I want to pad it out
to overwrite the entire line
L337[10:04:00] <reinei> so why do you pass
x1 and x2?
L338[10:04:19] <reinei> would it be OK to
just give it a string and have it printed centered on the current
line?
L339[10:04:20] <g> well, those are two
points to center between, but I don't actually need that in this
use case
L340[10:04:30] <g> I started out with
modifying a function I found that wasn't working
L341[10:04:41] <g> yeah that'd be
fine
L342[10:04:41] <reinei> ~text
L343[10:04:56] <reinei> no what was the
bots search syntax again?
L344[10:05:00] <g> ~w text
L346[10:05:06] <reinei> thanks xD
L347[10:05:14] <g> I checked it, it
doesn't have anything for this
L349[10:05:29] <reinei> I just wanted the
description of padLeft/padRight
L350[10:05:33] <g> ah right
L351[10:06:15] <g> I thought .wrap() might
do it but the description is as ambiguous as it gets
L352[10:06:35] <Michiyo> I'm pretty sure
.wrap is just a wordwrap function
L353[10:06:50] <g> no idea what that
is
L354[10:06:55] <Michiyo> %g word
wrap
L356[10:07:25] <g> oh, right
L357[10:08:31] <Michiyo> I've been here
for an hour, and I need a nap
L358[10:08:46] <Michiyo> Pro Tip: Don't
get old...
L359[10:09:01] <reinei> screens were 1
indexed, right?
L361[10:09:08] <reinei> like
term.setCursor(1, 1) is the top left?
L362[10:09:09] <reinei> ok
L364[10:15:18] <g> aaaand..
L365[10:15:22] <reinei> and hey thats
script is exactly as long as your old one
L367[10:15:29] <fingercomp> there's not //
in lua. Use math.floor
L368[10:15:31] <fingercomp> *no
L369[10:15:33] <g> line 6, unexpected
symbol near /
L370[10:15:36] <reinei> there is in
5.3
L371[10:15:43] <g> oc uses 5.2 afaik
L372[10:16:02] <reinei> yeah then do
math.floor(len/2)
L373[10:16:30] <reinei> I thought you had
already switched ...
L374[10:16:59] <fingercomp> Ah, I always
forget about these operators >_<
L375[10:17:15] <reinei> idiv and the rest
ftw
L376[10:17:51] <g> width is nil
L377[10:17:58] <reinei> also float a =
32.5;int b = * (int*) a;
L378[10:18:24] <reinei> well let my find a
substitue then xD
L380[10:18:34] <reinei> I don'T know how
to get the fricking width of an oc screen
L381[10:18:44] <reinei> ~w gpu
L383[10:18:54] <g> you do like
L384[10:19:08] <g> width, height,
x_offset, y_offset, relative_x, relative_y =
term.getViewport()
L385[10:19:13] <fingercomp> replace L12
with `local width = term.getViewport()`
L386[10:19:45] <reinei> yeah I messed up
select xDD
L387[10:19:57] <reinei> it should have
been select(1, term.getViewport()) xD
L388[10:20:04] <reinei> or fingercomp's
idea
L389[10:20:05] <g> okay, that didn't quite
work
L390[10:20:12] <g> it's resetting the
height as well
L391[10:20:29] <reinei> resetting?
L392[10:20:37] <g> yeah, it's only
printing on the top line of the screen
L393[10:20:49] <g> ah right
L394[10:20:50] <g> misread the api
L395[10:21:04] <reinei> mine or
oc's?
L396[10:22:13] <reinei> also if you want
to use this for anything bigger, you might want to handle that
'--welp' case of the string being longer than the screen
L397[10:24:04] <g> gotcha
L398[10:24:07] <g> well, good job, it
works :P
L400[10:24:08] <g> thanks
L401[10:24:11] <reinei> np
L402[10:26:01] <vifino> woot, there is a
jack audio patch for libao :D
L403[10:26:13] <vifino> ... if gitorious
would load.
L404[10:26:14] <Michiyo> "oc uses 5.2
afaik" By default, but you can switch the CPU to 5.3 :p
L405[10:26:41] <gamax92> hai
L406[10:26:46] <Michiyo> O/
L407[10:27:00] <vifino> PLEASE GITORIOUS,
I NEED THIS PATCH
L408[10:27:11] *
vifino sobs
L409[10:27:43] <gamax92> vifino: ?
L410[10:28:11] <vifino> gamax92: there is
a jack audio patch for libao, but gitorious gave up
L411[10:28:32] <gamax92> oh
L412[10:29:38] <vifino> YES
L413[10:29:41] <vifino> I GOT IT
L414[10:29:43] <vifino> WOOOO
L415[10:35:11] <vifino> hey, gamax92, do
you know how i can generate a patch just adding files from
nothing?
L416[10:36:14] <gamax92> diff?
L417[10:37:20] <vifino> I can't figure it
out.
L418[10:37:32] <vifino> oh, there we
go
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L421[10:40:53] <Lizzy> My boss is
awesome
L422[10:41:29] <reinei> why? did he also
give you3 thousand dollars, because he already made too much money
this year?
L423[10:41:52] <vifino> She said awesome,
not idiotic.
L424[10:42:06] <reinei> Notch did that
once and was called the most awesome best
L425[10:42:08] <reinei> boss*
L426[10:42:51] <vifino> Notch is an idiot,
then.
L427[10:43:20] <reinei> welp, guess so
xD
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L433[11:14:42]
zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
L434[11:21:28] <Lizzy> CompanionCube,
cool
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L437[11:31:42] <Lizzy> Also my boss is
awesome because he let me play division when we didn't have
anything pressing to do and even allowed my laptop to access the
division servers
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L439[11:34:44] <Kodos> How is it
L440[11:34:58] <Lizzy> It's good
L441[11:34:58] ***
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L442[11:35:37] <omglolbah> I've heard a
lot of mixed info on it
L443[11:35:56] <Lizzy> My laptop runs it
on low settings (at a playable framerate so I'm not too fussed),
have yet to try it on my desktop on high settings
L444[11:35:58] <reinei> yep
L445[11:36:12] <reinei> and gameplay
wise?
L446[11:36:56] <Lizzy> It's fairly good,
haven't played enough yet to give it a solid score
L448[11:38:09] <vifino> Successfully
patchified the thingies.
L449[11:39:17] <reinei> some of those
patch lines are like the update buffers in openssl, they appear to
do nothing O.o
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L451[11:41:13] <vifino> reinei: u
w0t?
L452[11:42:04] <reinei> nothing, I was
just talking about some of the patches being a few spaces being
removed xD
L453[11:42:14] <vifino> q_q
L454[11:42:16] <reinei> or being
added
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L456[11:43:30] <gamax92> reinei: diff has
options to fix that
L457[11:44:38] <gamax92> bah fuck ... need
to check something >_>
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L459[11:45:41] <gamax92> err no that's
right, I used the lua shell and not OC to test for that bug
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L462[12:29:31] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L463[12:30:54] <Temia> Well, it seems
sorted by popularity anyway
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L465[12:32:05] *
gamax92 wraps Temia in a warm blanket
L466[12:33:33] *
Temia is a beef burrito. owo
L467[12:33:42] *
Temia snuggles on Gamax and dozes off. =w=
L468[12:34:15] *
gamax92 is not a fan of beef
L469[12:34:38] *
Lizzy pets Temia
L470[12:35:34] ***
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L471[12:50:20] <noiro> Is building your
own OS's in OC worth it/fun? I'm coming from CC and kinda
considering wanting to just challenge myself (along with play more
with a linux-esque architecture)
L472[12:50:34] <rashdanml> I spy a
Temia
L473[12:50:43] <KittyKath> noiro: Its
incredibly fun. Worth it? Meh, depends on what you want.
L474[12:50:46] <Temia> Moo?
L475[12:50:52] <rashdanml> moo!
L476[12:51:10] *
rashdanml noms meat
L477[12:51:35] <noiro> I want a challenge
and to learn more of how OS's work on a very dumbed-down
level.
L478[12:52:01] *
gamax92 slaps rashdanml
L479[12:52:01] *
EnderBot2 chuckles
L480[12:52:03] <gamax92> bad D:
L481[12:52:11] <noiro> I made a
vector-based navigation system in CC that was reboot/server
chunkunload persistent and could pathfind
L482[12:52:13] <rashdanml> ow
L483[12:52:22] *
gamax92 slaps rashdanml again and again
L484[12:52:22] *
EnderBot2 high-fives gamax92
L485[12:52:25] <gamax92>
baaaaaaaaaad
L486[12:52:39] <noiro> and I made a
launcher that checks all my code against my dropbox for updates and
if they exist, updates them every time a turtle reboots
L487[12:53:11] <rashdanml> :'(
L488[12:53:52] <noiro> So it's like,
"Okay, you can do the basics of network connections, movement,
and GUIs/interfaces, wanna try a OS?"
L489[12:53:59] *
rashdanml snuggles Temia
L490[12:54:14] <gamax92> good.
L491[12:54:39] <gamax92> This is how you
treat your fellow moo
L492[12:54:47] <Temia> mu. .w.
L493[12:55:00] <noiro> Is OC updated to
1.8.9?
L494[12:55:06] <gamax92> noiro: yeah
L495[12:55:07] <reinei> since when is
Temia a full time moo? I thought she was a part time moo?!
L496[12:55:22] <gamax92> what would be the
other part then? o.o
L497[12:55:22] <Temia> What do you even
mean by part-time?
L498[12:55:46] <reinei> half moo half I
dunno, ...
L499[12:56:10] <Temia> That's not
part-time, that's just part.
L500[12:56:43] <reinei> well, you're also
'''working''' as a moo, as you can see by the fact that people
snuggle up to you, after chewing on you ...
L501[12:58:22] <gamax92> I'm wondering
...
L502[12:58:37] <gamax92> But Sangar isn't
here and I forgot to ask him last time D:
L503[12:58:41] <g> so I guess I'm gonna be
stuck on 1.7.10 forever..
L504[12:58:44] <gamax92> Vexatos
L505[12:59:10] <g> I have a feeling that
some of these 191 mods won't be updating past it
L507[13:00:44] <gamax92> %tell Sangar ping
me when you're around, need to ask you about coercion stuff
L508[13:00:45] <MichiBot> gamax92: Sangar
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L509[13:00:53] <Temia> Well that's just
rude D:
L510[13:01:04] <Temia> I am moo, I don't
just work for it!
L511[13:01:39] <reinei> never said you're
working FOR it, I said you are working AS it, thus being it, am I
wrong?
L512[13:01:49] <gamax92> Yes
L513[13:02:01] <gamax92> Doesn't have to
feel like work
L514[13:03:44] <noiro> I wonder if
anyone's ever pushed themselves into the realm of complete
no-lifehood and tried to build a working playback mechanism for
youtube in OC
L515[13:03:54] <Temia> No. I work as a
programmer.
L516[13:03:55] <Temia> :p
L517[13:03:58] <reinei> youtube: no mp4:
yes
L518[13:04:13] <reinei> I think it was mp4
at least
L519[13:04:30] <reinei> maybe asie even
played it straight from youtube, dunno
L520[13:04:54] <gamax92> reinei: you mean
ice codec?
L521[13:05:13] <reinei> dunno, was it that
one he tried at BTM16?
L523[13:06:40] <Lizzy> well that was
nearly disasterious, i dropped my laptop when putting it in my bag
to go home, booted it up at home and it couldn't find the ssd's
partitions
L524[13:06:41] ***
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L525[13:06:56] <Lizzy> turns out the ssd
feel out of it's socket
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player who installed OC wants: 1) boot an computer 2) learn how to
use OpenOS 3) write his own OS. But the question lies, who will use
these OSes except their authors?..)
L527[13:10:59] <gamax92> Who will use
these OSes except their authors?
L528[13:11:10] <gamax92> many people will,
if you do a good job at writing it and marketing it
L529[13:11:27] <gamax92> Just look at
Igor's MineOS
L530[13:13:21] <noiro> OC can only play
midi files?
L531[13:13:31] <gamax92> only?
L532[13:13:36] <vifino> only?
L533[13:13:44] <vifino> damn you
gamax92
L534[13:14:01] <gamax92> vifino: why,
you've restrengthened the point about only
L535[13:14:21] <gamax92> now the point is
stronger that "only" makes no sense
L536[13:14:29] <noiro> Well I mean, I just
mean that then you're locked into specific frequency returns, so
voice couldn't be played
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L538[13:15:09] <Kodos> noiro, are you
familiar with oppm
L539[13:15:17] <gamax92> voice can't be
played anyway unless you using the Computronics Tape Drive
L540[13:15:29] <vifino> gamax92: oh, yeah,
do you know what WAD installation failed: error creating
/title/00000001/00000002/content/title.tmd means when i try to
install a wad in dolphin?
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L542[13:15:42] <gamax92> vifino: which
WAD?
L543[13:15:50] <vifino> gamax92: system
menu
L544[13:15:56] <noiro> I mean, someone
mentioned making a working mp4 player so I was doing some research
on it. But if you can only do midi, mp3 format would have no way of
being fully supported
L545[13:15:59] <vifino> but no matter
which i try, just doesnt work
L546[13:16:13] <gamax92> noiro: why do you
think you can only do midi
L547[13:16:21] <gamax92> OpenOS isn't a
midi player
L548[13:16:32] <gamax92> the internet card
is not a midi player
L549[13:16:35] <gamax92> the gpu is not a
midi player
L550[13:16:43] <gamax92> the hard drive is
not a midi player
L551[13:16:52] <vifino> Mii channel gives
me WAD installation failed: error creating
/title/00010002/48414341/content/title.tmd
L552[13:17:13] <noiro> Was looking over
OC's libraries and it looks like it has the option of playing a
noteblock at a specific frequency or a computer.beep output (which
I assume would also take a frequency and duration).
L553[13:17:27] <gamax92> vifino: It's been
a while since I messed with the WAD stuff, but I don't remember
having an issue installing WADs
L554[13:17:48] <gamax92> is it possible
the permissions on the nand folder are messed up?
L555[13:17:49] <vifino> :(
L556[13:18:05] <vifino> i can throw stuff
in it from my account
L557[13:18:37] <gamax92> vifino: my nand
stuff is in "~/.local/share/dolphin-emu/Wii"
L558[13:18:56] <gamax92> or whatever the
XDG_DATA_DIR is
L559[13:20:38] <vifino> gamax92: i have it
manually specified and stuff
L560[13:20:45] <vifino> before that it was
just blank in the settings
L561[13:20:46] <gamax92> oh?
L562[13:21:00] <gamax92> It can be changed
in the settings now? .-.
L563[13:21:12] <vifino> Config ->
paths
L564[13:21:31] <vifino> "Wii NAND
Root:"
L565[13:22:16] <vifino> gamax92: what
version of dolphin do you have?
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L567[13:22:35] <gamax92> typically the
latest dev version
L568[13:22:45] <gamax92> which I need to
go reinstall since I reinstalled linux
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L570[13:27:33] <vifino> gamax92: I'm
currently building a git copy, let's see if that'll be
better.
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L572[13:29:37] <noiro> does OC require
another mod which generates RF?
L573[13:29:47] <gamax92> no
L574[13:29:49] <noiro> or does it have its
own inhouse power system I can use?
L575[13:30:00] <gamax92> you can run with
no power mods, it'll just disable power usage
L576[13:30:04] <Kodos> It doesn't have
power gen, but if you run it with no power mods, it'll just
'work'
L577[13:30:28] <noiro> hmm, don't robots
have solar generation on them that'd still work?
L578[13:33:39] <noiro> For making your own
OS, I take it Lua is accepted so creating your own compiler isn't
required?
L579[13:34:07] <Kodos> ~w custom OS
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L582[13:37:53] <noiro> I've been reading
over that. It says the BIOS looks for a setBootAddress, but if you
have your own OS that's on a floppy and not yet installed, wouldn't
there be no getBootAddress yet on the HDD? Or would it also try to
find it on the floppy as well and I could move from there with an
installation?
L583[13:38:48] <gamax92> noiro: ehh.
L584[13:39:09] <gamax92> the BIOS (The
EEPROM code) is the thing that implements setBootAddress and
getBootAddress
L585[13:40:18] <gamax92> they operate on
the EEPROM's small data section, and it'll detect if it's perferred
boot address (whatever is in the data section) is no longer valid
and search for a drive that has /init.lua
L586[13:40:22] <noiro> But if the BIOS is
read-only, how would I point to the floopy so it knows to start? Or
as long as the floopy has a init.lua, don't worry about it?
L587[13:40:36] <gamax92> EEPROM's aren't
read only?
L588[13:41:03] <noiro> They arn't IRL, but
would I figure manually editing it via electric pulses may be a tad
out of scope for OC
L589[13:41:15] <gamax92> and yeah, as long
as your drive has an init.lua it'll find it and boot it
L590[13:41:28] <gamax92> and then as long
as it's there, it'll keep booting it specifically even if other
drives have init.lua
L591[13:41:58] <gamax92> unless you then
remove the drive or call setBootAddress to some other drive
L592[13:42:12] <noiro> okies, just trying
to figure out where to start with making an OS. Most of what is
given seems fairly self-explanatory, but figuring out how to move
data from floppy to connected harddrive without IO library ought to
be interesting
L593[13:42:33] <gamax92> noiro: OpenOS
cheats by just calling the cp program :P
L594[13:42:52] <gamax92> it literally just
clones the floppy drive to the hard drive :P
L595[13:43:17] <noiro> ... Upon executing
init.lua or would I be manually executing cp myself?
L596[13:43:31] <gamax92> noiro: does
OpenOS immediately install itself?
L597[13:43:57] <noiro> I know the example
OS you boot the floppy and type install and it does. Trying to
figure out where the automation stops and where I start
coding
L598[13:44:17] <noiro> wasn't sure if the
type install prompt was BIOS still or part of init.lua
L599[13:44:28] <gamax92> that's part of
OpenOS
L600[13:45:03] <noiro> okay, so I could
have my own custom installer and manually cp files over to the HDD
(after I run the necissary code to detect where it is)
L601[13:45:37] <gamax92> you could scrap
every file on the floppy and write everything from scratch if you
so desired :P
L602[13:45:59] <gamax92> with only the
BIOS, you get no programs, no process management, no shell, no
terminal api, no event library, ...
L603[13:46:31] <gamax92> you still have
stuff like the component api and computer api and unicode, but
OpenOS even extends those for you too
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L605[13:46:45] <gamax92> for example, you
can't do component.gpu, you'd have to use component.proxy
L606[13:47:09] <gamax92> OpenOS provides
that simplicity
L607[13:47:21] <gamax92> you couldn't do
event.pull, you'd do computer.pullSignal
L608[13:47:26] <noiro> That is kinda what
I"m going for, but I'm trying to work out which parts are
included and which parts arn't. Obviously the ability to
copy/remove/delete files is a tad important even if I'm not
performing IO
L609[13:48:18] <gamax92> noiro: there is
no filesystem api with only the BIOS, you have to interact with the
component methods on the drives
L610[13:48:53] <noiro> can you show me the
component methods for a HDD? Whenever I look on the wiki, it just
gives recipes on how to make it, not sure if there's a code-only
version for components
L611[13:49:02] <gamax92> ~w filesystem
component
L613[13:49:35] <noiro> ooh, this is going
to be interesting
L614[13:51:10] <noiro> guess I'll actually
have to learn to read and write bytes and not rely so heavily on
textfiles, huh? Ahh well xD
L615[13:51:24] <reinei> what are text
files other than bytes?
L616[13:51:27] <gamax92> ^
L617[13:51:45] <reinei> ascii text files
are the most basic of file types you could have
L618[13:51:50] <reinei> (almost)
L619[13:52:31] <noiro> maybe, but I've
relied a little too heavily on writeLine("Text\n"),
writeLine("Text") f.close()
L620[13:52:38] <noiro> I assume it won't
be that easy
L621[13:52:58] <gamax92> those are CC
methods
L622[13:52:58] <reinei> gamax92, does lua
know string to byte conversion?
L623[13:53:09] <gamax92> reinei: strings
are just array of bytes ...
L624[13:53:22] <reinei> yeah then it'll be
easy if you know what you are doing
L625[13:53:24] <gamax92> noiro: and oddly
enough ... it is kinda just that easy.
L626[13:53:45] <noiro> all I saw was
readByte and writeByte o.o no writeLine
L627[13:54:03] <reinei> writeByte('\n')
might work
L628[13:54:04] <gamax92> noiro: there
aren't even functions called that ...
L629[13:54:14] <gamax92> reinei: there
aren't even functions called that .......
L630[13:54:32] <reinei> yeah yeah
write(handle '\n')
L631[13:54:43] <gamax92> there you go,
that's better.
L632[13:54:45] <noiro> Doesn't the
component drive have: readByte(offset:number):number
L633[13:54:52] <reinei> thats DRIVE
L634[13:54:57] <Kodos> That's an unmanaged
hard drive
L635[13:55:02] <reinei> you don'T wanna go
THAT low level
L636[13:55:15] <reinei> that would be hell
for starters xD
L637[13:55:17] <gamax92> noiro: you want
to stick with managed drives (filesystem component)
L638[13:55:24] <gamax92> the BIOS makes no
effort to boot an unmanaged drive
L639[13:55:31] <gamax92> and so you'd have
to write a custom eeprom for that
L640[13:55:38] <noiro> Is that included
with the BIOS for a included floppy?
L641[13:55:54] <gamax92> the openos floppy
and HDD's you build all start out in managed mode
L642[13:55:56] <noiro> I mean, I was
looking at it and thought I was expected to go that low level and
I'm like, "Oh good lord"
L643[13:56:15] <gamax92> so you don't have
to like, write a ext2 filesystem drive ... :P
L644[13:56:35] <gamax92> you can just say,
open a file here, put this data in it, and then close it
L645[13:56:39] <reinei> noiro you could
then just as well write a custom child mod for OC in Java bytecode
if you're coming from CC and want to write THAt low level
L646[13:57:02] <reinei> at least thats my
opinion
L647[13:57:12] <noiro> XD I'll see what I
pull off with managed mode first, haha. Just checked it and write()
is supported xD
L648[13:58:19] <noiro> is OpenOS
sourcecode editable or up somewhere on a git? I assume the
component variation of a network card is available (HTTP will be
enabled on my server)
L649[13:59:16] <gamax92> noiro: internet
card, and yeah it's on github
L650[13:59:38] <Kodos> SecureOS is a good
example of a modified OpenOS
L652[13:59:51] <gamax92> not sure about
good :P
L653[14:00:03] <Kodos> You know of any
better ones? =P
L654[14:00:17] <reinei> gamax92, it
contains the word 'secure' in the name so it MUST be good
L655[14:00:18] <gamax92> all of the work
payonel has put into OpenOS
L656[14:01:43] <Kodos> I can't decide
between playing my tech pack, or my magic pack
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L658[14:04:57] <noiro> Hmmm, OpenOS's
init.lua isn't too difficult to understand, but there's a lot of
logic I can't immediately decypher and would have to dig through
when I went poking around on the filesystem.lua in lib
L659[14:05:32] <noiro> That's a lot of
freedom though and I can't say I'm unimpressed XD
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L661[14:06:55] <gamax92> noiro: hmm?
L662[14:07:48] <noiro> segments() and
findNode() specifically, I was trying to figure out what was
happening and why
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L664[14:09:04] <Michiyo> Man... speaking
of SecureOS... Shuudoushi is going to have LOTS of fun having to
redo all of his changes for the new OpenOS..
L665[14:09:29] <Michiyo> %seen
Shuudoushi
L666[14:09:30] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
Shuudoushi was last seen 4d 18h 33m 36s ago.
L667[14:09:50] <gamax92> noiro: segments
is just to break a path into segments :P
L668[14:10:05] <noiro> Oh, for parsing
directory names?
L669[14:10:40] <gamax92> and not only for
breaking a path apart, but also for handling backward slashes and
".."
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L671[14:10:51] <gamax92> kinda like fs.
... fs.combine?
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L673[14:12:50] <noiro> I was about to say,
I just checked the managed and there's already handling for paths
and checking if something exists at a path. I was looking to see
what I'd need to implement a working OS from the beginning and
guess I forgot there's a lot of useful utility stuff openOS
includes I have to keep an eye out for.
L674[14:13:33] <noiro> Mostly just gettin
ghte OS onto a HDD with events for keyboard input and program
execution with a shell of some kind.
L675[14:15:29] <vifino> ... why does
libreoffice have a bluetooth option?!
L676[14:15:33] <vifino> wtf.
L677[14:16:23] <ping> vifino, wat?
L678[14:16:44] <vifino> ping: libreoffice
has something in regards to bluetooth
L679[14:17:00] <vifino> it also requires a
shit ton of ram to build
L680[14:17:04] <vifino> like 10gb
ram
L681[14:17:09] <gamax92> noiro: well
OpenOS also supports runtime symlinks (they don't persist) and
mounting volumes
L682[14:17:14] <vifino> and that is with
memory deduplication
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L684[14:19:46] <vifino> Man, gentoo is
awesome.
L685[14:19:53] <vifino> Makes it really
really easy to apply custom patches.
L686[14:20:04] <vifino> Just drop em in a
folder and there is that.
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L690[14:23:58] <gamax92> Sangar has been
r.i.p
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L693[14:28:48] <Kodos> Huh... Just noticed
that with the exception of Railcraft, my entire tech pack can be
operated via OC
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L695[14:28:59] <Kodos> Well, technically i
guess it can be too
L696[14:31:15] <Lizzy> Kodos, the newest
versions of Computronics (not sure if they're out of dev yet. cc
Vexatos) allow for a lot more control :)
L697[14:31:26] <Kodos> I know, I saw the
signal label thingies
L698[14:31:37] <Kodos> I haven't actually
figured out signal systems yet though
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L700[14:31:52] <Vexatos> Lizzy, even
before
L701[14:32:41] <Kodos> Michiyo, did you
ever fix it so page titles don't show up at the top of printed
pages
L702[14:32:46] <Vexatos> receiver
boxes,detectors, locomotive relay, pretty much every track that
does anything, signal motors
L703[14:32:58] <Vexatos> anything
electric
L704[14:33:00] <gamax92> >:(
Vexatos
L705[14:33:06] <Vexatos> and routing
detectors
L706[14:33:09] <vifino> electric
boogaloo
L707[14:33:12] <Vexatos> gamax92
>:)
L708[14:33:59] <gamax92> Vexatos: when
converting between lua strings and Java strings (for addons and
such), how does it go about random binary garbage that may happen
to be there?
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L710[14:34:27] <Vexatos> not at all I
think
L711[14:34:37] <gamax92> does it just
convert each byte into a char, trying to perform no
conversions?
L712[14:34:44] <Vexatos> at least all I am
getting is UTF-8 encoded. but you do have args.getByteArray()
L713[14:35:01] <gamax92> hmm ...
L714[14:35:13] <Vexatos> pretty sure it
does UTF-8 though
L715[14:35:16] <Vexatos> not quite
sure
L716[14:35:20] <Vexatos> I know for sure
that CC does
L717[14:35:52] <gamax92> Was noticing
various stuff in OC where garbage will display and not be corrupted
but will in LuaJ and just result in question marks
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L720[14:37:42] <noiro> I really like a lot
of features of OC, I'm just worried it'd be hard for various users
to really get into due to the learning curve. My bf is one of the
few people I play with on my server that actually codes regurlarly
so it'd effectively be a wasted mod for evreyone else that I
couldn't balance other mods around as they'd not be able to handle
it.
L721[14:38:16] <rashdanml> -shrug- each
their own, I guess
L722[14:38:55] <g> lua isn't that
hard
L723[14:39:00] <rashdanml> the initial
hurdle of getting a simple computer isn't too difficult. more
steps, but not hard.
L724[14:39:01] <g> it's designed to be
friendly to non-programmers
L725[14:39:06] <rashdanml> and ^
L726[14:39:18] <g> people are often
discouraged because "CODING IS HARD (TM)"
L727[14:39:18] <noiro> the other
conclusion is, "Well include CC as well, it's pretty
idiot-proof" But CC can be OP as anything very early-on if you
knwo what you're doing. So I either give a mod that's fun for a lot
of people but that'd get abused to all heck by anyone who's more
creative
L728[14:39:23] <g> just make them try
it
L729[14:39:40] <g> CC is way more limited
than OC though
L730[14:39:51] <noiro> it's more limited
yes, but it's also a lot easier to get into and fiddle with
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L732[14:40:09] <g> well it's less
complicated in some ways I suppose
L733[14:40:17] <Izaya> let them use CC but
only give them a FORTH prompt when they boot
L734[14:40:30] <rashdanml> getting a
computer up and running in CC is literally one recipe
L735[14:40:30] <g> ...haha, that'd be
great
L736[14:40:37] <g> yeah, that's true
L737[14:40:38] <noiro> XD
L738[14:40:58] <gamax92> replace bios.lua
with a forth implementation :v
L739[14:41:01] <g> CC feels a lot more
fragmented, from a server admin point of view
L740[14:41:06] <rashdanml> OC works great
with auto-crafting setups if you need to build more computers
quickly
L741[14:41:22] <gamax92> rashdanml: how
so
L742[14:41:23] <Izaya> OC's recipes seem
like they belong in Factorio
L743[14:41:29] <noiro> Usually for CC, I
remove excavate, tunnel, and the pastebin library with HTTP enabled
so they can create their own http pull's but they don't get to just
pastebin OPprogram myOPProgram
L744[14:41:32] <gamax92> Izaya: yes
L745[14:41:39] <CompanionCube> Izaya, ohey
izaya
L746[14:41:39] <g> OC's recipes are
complicated but I don't dislike that
L747[14:41:42] <Kodos> I use IE Assemblers
and other things to make OC Computers
L748[14:41:43] <g> it makes you work for
your automation
L749[14:41:52] <Izaya> Hai
CompanionCube
L750[14:42:14] <rashdanml> well, the more
steps become way less tedious when auto-crafted with AE, for
instance, gamax92
L751[14:42:38] <gamax92> that's not
relevant to what you said.
L752[14:43:01] <noiro> I still have no
idea how I feel about AE xD It's both a lifesaver to making MC less
tedious and also so very overpowered
L753[14:43:09] <g> I love AE
L754[14:43:20] <g> I feel like it's not OP
because it is an absolute bitch to get started with
L755[14:43:22] <noiro> At some point in
AE, you basically stop playing the game
L756[14:43:32] <noiro> and AE plays it for
you
L757[14:43:35] <g> brbafk
L758[14:43:42] *
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L761[14:53:01] <Vexatos>
<gamax92>
Was noticing various stuff in OC where
garbage will display and not be corrupted but will in LuaJ and just
result in question marks
L762[14:53:07] <Vexatos> maybe LuaJ
force-converts to UTF-8?
L763[14:53:11] <gamax92> it does
L764[14:53:22] <gamax92> tojstring will
try to parse the bytes as UTF-8
L765[14:53:23] <Vexatos> check LuaC
handler
L766[14:53:26] <Vexatos> maybe it
doesn't
L767[14:53:34] <Vexatos> maybe that one
doesn't*
L768[14:54:05] <gamax92> I couldn't really
find much when I looked last time ...
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L770[14:56:16] <g> So what's the deal with
LuaJ?
L771[14:56:25] <g> What advantages will it
provide?
L772[14:57:03] <gamax92> g:
advantages?
L773[14:57:03] <Michiyo> A working mod for
people who don't have an OS with natives available, or they disable
Eris?
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L775[14:57:31] <g> there are OSes without
natives? o.o
L776[14:57:47] <Michiyo> OC has LuaJ
support already, but LuaJ has bugs..
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L779[15:01:28] <Michiyo> But yeah, shift
right click with a CPU/APU in your hands a few times, you'll get
Lua 5.2, lua 5.3, and LuaJ, which doesn't have persistence and
comes with fun bugs with stuff like string formatting
L780[15:01:44] <g> ah, I see
L781[15:01:55] <g> ..oh, the architecture
is part of the cpu
L782[15:02:03] <g> I thought it was part
of the eeprom then I realised that makes no sense
L783[15:04:59] <gamax92> g: want something
fun?
L784[15:05:06] <gamax92> try to do
"0x-A"+0
L786[15:05:34] <gamax92> in LuaJ
L787[15:05:40] <g> I don't even have mc
open
L789[15:05:45] <gamax92> oh
L790[15:05:50] <gamax92> well, it gives
-10 instead of erroring
L793[15:06:09] <gamax92>
"-0xA"+0 however errors instead of giving -10 :P
L794[15:06:31] *
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L798[15:15:56] <Izaya> holy shit
L799[15:16:00] <gamax92> g: The why is
because you know how tonumber accepts a base to do base conversions
with?
L800[15:16:00] <Izaya> the packet loss is
not only real
L801[15:16:03] <Izaya> it's insane
L802[15:16:33] <gamax92> LuaJ will check
if the first two bytes after all the whitespace is "0x"
and then try to reuse that code
L803[15:16:40] <Izaya> 2/24 pings
successful
L804[15:17:15] <gamax92> which is wrong
because it doesn't have to start with 0x, as shown with
tonumber("-0xA") or tonumber("+0xA")
L805[15:18:02] <gamax92> the base
conversions code is also not supposed to handle decimal points or
the hexadecimal literal 'p' character
L806[15:18:02] <g> gamax92: That's..
pretty odd
L807[15:18:20] <Izaya> fuck this I'm
restarting the router
L808[15:18:34] <Izaya> 1/25 worst
connection
L809[15:18:39] <gamax92> the base
conversions code does handle negatives, but the way it's being
reused makes it so that it's handled in the wrong spot
L810[15:18:42] *
Michiyo restarts Izaya
L811[15:18:57] <gamax92> also none of the
string to number conversions code handles the plus sign
correctly
L812[15:19:15] <gamax92> s/correctly/at
all/
L813[15:19:15] <MichiBot> <gamax92>
also none of the string to number conversions code handles the plus
sign at all
L814[15:20:21] <Michiyo> wow..
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L817[15:26:30] <gamax92> Michiyo: should
note though, this is only if you happen to be using tonumber or
doing arithmetic with a string
L818[15:27:12] <gamax92> LexState has a
complete strx2number port that will properly accept -0xA.Cp7 and
will error on all the things it should
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L820[15:30:24] <gamax92> kinda one of the
things that sucks about Java in terms of having a Lua port on it is
that Lua can and does a fair bit of code deduplication by having a
sane string type :P but also because you can pass by reference
simple types in C
L821[15:31:21] <Kodos> How much of Extra
Utilities can I disable?
L822[15:31:51] <Kodos> Oh wow, nevermind,
I can do all of it
L823[15:36:24] <gamax92> I've noticed some
stuff in LuaJ that's basically exactly the same code, just that one
works on Java Strings and Java characters, and the other works with
LuaJ's LuaString and Java's bytes
L824[15:37:27] <Kodos> Ugh,
nevermind
L825[15:37:30] <Kodos> That's fucking
retarded
L826[15:37:39] <Kodos> You can't run Extra
Utilities without CoFHCore, even with the generators disabled
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L828[15:37:56] <g> cofhcore does a hell of
a lot of stuff
L829[15:38:05] <Kodos> Indeed
L830[15:38:22] <Kodos> I disabled
everything from ExU but the filing cabinets
L831[15:38:26] <Kodos> But it still
crashes on startup
L832[15:38:56] <g> the filing cabinets
aren't useful
L833[15:39:03] <g> use the storage drawers
mod for that instead
L834[15:40:38] <Kodos> I want the filing
cabinets both because they're useful for what I use them for, as
well as being aesthetic
L835[15:40:48] <Kodos> I keep my
OpenPrinter folders in them :3
L836[15:41:04] <Michiyo> Filing Cabinets
are almost done..
L837[15:41:17] <Kodos> Need any other
textures?
L838[15:41:22] <Michiyo> All of them
:P
L839[15:41:25] <g> storager drawers is imo
the best in-world storage
L840[15:41:26] <Kodos> I gave you the
front one already
L841[15:41:32] <Michiyo> I lost the drive
it was on
L842[15:41:34] <g> (as opposed to, say,
AE, which is data storage)
L843[15:41:35] <Kodos> Oh
L844[15:41:36] <Kodos> Uhh
L845[15:41:37] <Kodos> okay, hang on
L846[15:42:00] <Michiyo> I lost the drive
with all of my mod stuff on it actually
L847[15:42:01] <Michiyo> ffffff
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L849[15:45:37] <Michiyo> and of course
none of it is on git...
L850[15:46:01] <Kodos> =\
L851[15:46:15] <Kodos> This is why I code
out of my dropbox folder
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L854[15:51:33] <Kodos> How much did we
lose
L855[15:54:07] <Michiyo> Everything I did
over the weekend, which was all of the Filing cab stuff...
L856[15:54:29] <Michiyo> I say weekend, it
was mainly sunday, I was at my moms saturday
L857[15:55:46] *
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L864[16:04:36] <KittyKath> GamerEagle:
Hai
L865[16:05:18] <KittyKath> g: And that's
why you don't let google play with Linux xD
L866[16:05:46] *
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L867[16:06:37] <Kodos> Michiyo, That's not
too terrible then
L868[16:06:45] <vifino> LIZZY!!! \o/
\o/
L869[16:06:56] <KittyKath> g: But really
it comes just down to "Don't install software you don't know
is good."
L870[16:07:01] *
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L871[16:07:04] <Michiyo> But yeah,
everything from the block up is gone
L872[16:07:16] *
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L874[16:08:18] <gamax92> Dammit Sangar,
where the fuck are you.
L875[16:08:44] <vifino> Nanana, gamax92,
don't swear D:
L876[16:08:55] <gamax92> Sangar, where are
you.
L877[16:09:02] <vifino> Perfect.
L878[16:09:04] *
vifino hugs gamax92
L879[16:09:19] <Lizzy> dammit Sangar,
where the are you?
L880[16:09:29] *
gamax92 hugs vifino back
L881[16:09:47] <vifino> Lizzy: shower,
go!
L882[16:09:52] <Lizzy> cant
L883[16:09:53] *
vifino drags Lizzy into the shower
L884[16:09:59] <Lizzy> waiting for sis to
finish in the bathroom
L885[16:10:05] <vifino> ah
L886[16:12:32] <Inari> Lizzy: why
L887[16:12:34] <Inari> just join her in
the bathroom
L888[16:12:38] <Lizzy> Inari, ¬_¬
L889[16:13:22] *
vifino slaps Inari
L890[16:13:22] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L891[16:13:40] <Inari> lol
L892[16:13:41] <Inari> what
L893[16:13:41] <Kodos> I'll get the
texture off my wife's hard drive in a few days. Her PC died, so I
have to borrow the dock from my brother again to get the file
L894[16:13:42] <Inari> family
L895[16:13:42] <Inari> skinship
L896[16:13:50] <gamax92> Inari: no, Lizzy
would have to be accompanied by vifino for it to not be
awkward
L897[16:14:00] <g> awkward is cool
too
L898[16:14:06] <gamax92> depends
L899[16:14:07] <g> I mean
L901[16:14:10] <Inari> i feel its actually
more awkward tha way
L902[16:14:10] <g> totally
L903[16:14:12] <Inari> but suuure?
L904[16:14:59] <vifino> So... it would be
less awkward if I would have a shower with Lizzy and her
sister?
L905[16:15:05] <vifino> Oh...
okay...
L906[16:15:33] <Lizzy> not terribly sure
my sister would like that....
L907[16:15:58] <Lizzy> hmm, i feel like
making a mesh/p2p thing that auto-descovers 'peers' by sending out
multicasts every so often
L908[16:16:14] <Lizzy> anyway, sis is out
o the shower so in i go
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L915[17:19:37] <gamax92> ... oh
>_>
L916[17:19:56] <gamax92> I swear if this
works fine ...
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L922[17:56:57] <gamax92> I think I can
just borrow the Java function for this, I just have to make sure I
do the constraint checks, Java is being stricter
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L925[18:05:17] <gamax92> or not.
L926[18:10:01] *
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L937[19:45:05] <MichiBot>
Take Me To
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L938[19:45:45] <gamax92> I used the Java
function, despite it's limitations, it's a lot better than the old
hacky code that was there before
L939[19:48:13] <Mimiru> g, I really like
his cover of "Hello"
L940[19:48:21] <g> Yeah, that's a great
cover
L941[19:48:49] <Mimiru> It got played on
XM - Octane last month and I had to look him up
L942[19:55:36] <rashy> \o/
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L948[21:01:21] <gamax92> gah, the
strictness :P
L949[21:02:10] <gamax92> cannot use
zeroPad if left justify is enabled or width is not specified
L950[21:02:26] <gamax92> cannot use space
if force plus sign is enabled
L951[21:02:36] <gamax92> cannot use
alternative mode with generic formatting
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L954[21:09:40] <gamax92> cannot use left
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L957[21:17:01] <Mimiru> %alot enable
L958[21:17:01] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Enabled
Alot for this channel
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L960[21:28:31] <Mimiru>
"....................................................................................................................................................................................................................."
- gradlew setupDecomWorkspace 2016
L961[21:35:25] <rashy> decided to order a
couple of books on C and Java. Learned basics of C long time ago,
never properly learned Java. I tend to find book learning better
than online reading
L962[21:38:02] <gamax92> think I've
covered all the cases ...
L963[21:50:35] <rashy> there are always
more cases ...
L964[21:58:24] <gamax92> rashy: well it
stopped erroring.
L965[21:58:32] <rashy> xD
L966[21:58:34] <gamax92> oh right I could
run the test script
L967[22:00:04] <gamax92> well it
passed
L968[22:02:10] <rashy> yay
L970[22:23:09] <Kodos> \o/
L971[22:23:18] <Kodos> I'll get to work on
the texture then
L972[22:23:19] <Mimiru> That's basically
copy/paste of the Shredder with most stuff renamed. I still need to
work on the actual container stuff more
L973[22:23:35] <Mimiru> but that's most of
what I had done
L974[22:26:18] <Kodos> Enjoy ARK, and good
job getting that done again so quick
L975[22:26:44] <Mimiru> Testing a server
for a friend
L976[22:28:09] <gamax92> %seen
Sangar
L977[22:28:11] <MichiBot> gamax92: Sangar
was last seen 1d 7h 6m 31s ago.
L979[22:34:12] <Mimiru> Yeah, looks
good
L982[22:35:08] <Kodos> err 16
L983[22:35:12] <Kodos> It's 16, I
swear
L984[22:35:44] <Kodos> If you need the
non-front sides texture done, let me know. I modified the
machine_bottom png file you gave me ages ago
L986[22:38:35] <Kodos> Ew, yeah, let me
give you the one I use
L988[22:39:41] <Kodos> Use that for the
sides
L990[22:43:13] <Kodos> Humm
L991[22:43:29] <Kodos> How would you feel
about the edges being like the rest of the texture on the non-front
ones
L992[22:44:55] <Mimiru> What do you
mean?
L993[22:45:16] <Kodos> Hang on
L995[22:48:06] <Kodos> err
L996[22:48:07] <Kodos> non front
L997[22:48:39] <Kodos> With this one, the
front texture gives the illusion of having a drawer
L998[22:48:48] <Kodos> Without needing
fancy model bullshit
L1000[22:51:33] <Kodos> That's the winner
=D
L1001[22:51:41] <Kodos> See how the front
'pops' out now
L1002[22:52:10] <Kodos> Heh, I should've
done a single pixel at the corner of the front to make it look like
it has a lock lol
L1003[22:56:30] <Mimiru> Caused by:
java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 20 1_1
L1004[22:56:34] <Kodos> wat
L1005[22:56:34] <Mimiru> err q_q
L1006[22:57:17] <Mimiru> How many slots
should it have...
L1007[22:59:05] <Kodos> Well, it'll hold
folders. I would think 27 should suffice
L1008[22:59:17] <Kodos> Most likely
people still stack them two high
L1009[22:59:25] <Kodos> And if you have a
'records room', you'll have plenty of them
L1010[23:01:55] <Kodos> With folders,
that's what, 70 something papers stored?
L1011[23:05:39] <Kodos> #lua return
27*3
L1012[23:05:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
81
L1013[23:05:41] <Kodos> 81
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L1015[23:17:16] <Kodos> Now I just need
to get this tps command output to be prettier or easier to
parse
L1016[23:17:21] <Kodos> So I can format
it for papers ;3
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L1020[23:24:01] <Kodos> \o/
L1021[23:24:14] <Mimiru> I'll push this
and I need to crash
L1022[23:24:30] <Kodos> Okay, but I have
one more minor request but it'll be tomorrow's project if you're
interested in even adding it
L1023[23:24:39] <Mimiru> Sup?
L1024[23:24:47] <Kodos> Being able to
name cabinets like you did with the folders
L1025[23:25:08] <Kodos> IIRC that should
make it so when you look at it with WAILA, it'll show the name of
the cabinet
L1026[23:25:42] <Mimiru> Eeeeh... I'll
look into it..
L1027[23:25:54] <Mimiru> As long as I
don't have to do anything with WAILA API for it...
L1028[23:25:56] <Kodos> It's not a huge
deal, since halfway through typing the request, I realized it was a
block and naming it is rather silly
L1029[23:25:57] <Mimiru> cause fuck that
thing :p
L1030[23:26:01] <Kodos> No you
won't
L1031[23:26:17] <Kodos> Tbh, I could just
name them in an anvil
L1032[23:26:22] <Kodos> But you know,
lazy and such
L1033[23:26:30] <Kodos> But that's what
the folders do, too
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L1035[23:28:56] <Mimiru> you can do
folders in the anvil, but you can also do it when you put stuff in
the folder
L1036[23:29:30] <Kodos> Right
L1037[23:29:45] <Kodos> The same should
be able to be done with the cabinets
L1038[23:29:52] <Kodos> When the GUI is
open, just have a text field to rename them
L1039[23:30:00] <Kodos> Again, though,
that's entirely up to you
L1040[23:30:14] <Mimiru> Eh.. but then
anyone can rename them
L1041[23:30:18] <Kodos> True
L1042[23:30:21] <Mimiru> otherwise I have
to implement owner stuff
L1043[23:30:26] <Mimiru> which becomes a
pain in the ass
L1044[23:30:32] <Kodos> Would you be
willing to test something for me in the dev env?
L1045[23:31:03] <Mimiru> It depends
:P
L1046[23:31:04] <Kodos> Use an anvil to
name a cabinet 'TPS Reports', place it, and open the GUI and see if
it still says File Cabinet or if it does the name
L1047[23:31:16] <Kodos> If it does the
name, that's good enough for me
L1048[23:31:27] <Mimiru> It'll say file
cabinet :p
L1049[23:31:32] <Kodos> Lol okay
L1050[23:31:39] <Kodos> Get some rest,
you/we can muck with it more tomorrow
L1051[23:31:45] <Mimiru> it's hard coded
to the localized name atm
L1052[23:31:48] <Kodos> Mkay
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