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L4[00:00:16] <Antheus> yay corded
L5[00:02:20] <lperkins2> The editor have a quick delete-all or delete-after-cursor function?
L6[00:02:47] <lperkins2> clearing the file and pasting from the clipboard is taking longer each edit
L7[00:02:59] <Antheus> great...
L8[00:03:11] <Antheus> OC turned off it's sound stuff
L9[00:03:47] <Antheus> forgot how to fix that...
L10[00:04:02] <Antheus> because I know I don't have a "low end sound card or your sound card ran out of memory"
L11[00:08:37] <Antheus> Did the font for OC change or something?
L12[00:08:44] <gamax92> indeed
L13[00:09:02] <Antheus> I don't know how I feel about this....
L14[00:09:25] <gamax92> too bad, you can always go drop the old unifont.hex and wcwidth.bin into your jar
L15[00:09:56] <Antheus> I'll get used to it
L16[00:09:58] <Antheus> :P
L17[00:10:14] <Antheus> and it starts you out in /home/ now...
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L25[00:48:55] <Antheus> I'm so used to using nano I keep hitting ctrl+o and ctrl+x in OC's edit
L26[00:53:49] <omglolbah> Know that feeling
L27[00:54:04] * omglolbah is a filthy nano/pico-using scrub and knows it :p
L28[00:54:22] <Antheus> nano is life
L29[00:54:23] <Antheus> also
L30[00:54:26] <greaser|q> as i once said, if people who use nano like nano shinonome, what do people who like pico like
L31[00:54:47] * greaser|q belongs to the vim master race
L32[00:54:52] <gamax92> pico de gallo
L33[00:55:00] <Antheus> "stdin:2: ')' expected (to close '(' at line 1) near <eof>"
L34[00:55:03] <Antheus> WTH
L35[00:57:23] <Antheus> nvm
L36[00:57:34] <Antheus> just suck at using lua command line :P
L37[00:58:20] <greaser|q> and yeah your friendly reminder that :w is almost never a smiley
L38[00:58:30] <gamax92> :v
L39[00:59:15] <Antheus> :K
L40[00:59:20] <Antheus> Great...
L41[00:59:22] <Antheus> now
L42[00:59:43] <Antheus> things saying that arg 3 was bad, and it expected a string but got nil
L43[00:59:47] <Antheus> when I gave it a string
L44[00:59:50] <Antheus> .-.
L45[01:00:00] <greaser|q> and just in case someone thinks :w is a smiley, they can rest assured that :wq is not
L46[01:00:14] <Antheus> :wq!
L47[01:00:37] <greaser|q> but at the same time if someone does type :wq (or even worse, :wq!) into chat, it's a good sign that they hate you
L48[01:01:13] <gamax92> greaser|q: :wq!
L49[01:01:24] <greaser|q> gamax92: :!rm -rf *
L50[01:01:36] <gamax92> D:
L51[01:02:29] <gamax92> greaser|q: I did manage to successfully edit a file in vim earlier last week :3
L52[01:02:36] <greaser|q> wheee
L53[01:02:54] <Antheus> I also did that not too long ago
L54[01:03:11] <Lucca> gj
L55[01:03:12] <Lucca> heres a medal
L56[01:03:13] <greaser|q> gamax92: http://tnerual.eriogerg.free.fr/vimqrc.pdf <-- print that off and thank me later
L57[01:03:50] <greaser|q> it's great once you have a full VIM w/ X clipboard support and also support for vertical split panes
L58[01:04:18] <greaser|q> "^W s" and "^W v" for horizontal and vertical splits respectively
L59[01:04:31] <greaser|q> ^W hjkl to move between panes of course
L60[01:06:24] <Antheus> I should print that off
L61[01:06:26] <Antheus> oh wait
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L63[01:06:50] <Antheus> I have yet to get my printer working on linux
L64[01:07:03] <gamax92> my printer works on linux
L65[01:07:55] <Izaya> my printer has never been tested on linux, windows, or mach
L66[01:08:47] <greaser|q> it really depends on which printer you have
L67[01:08:58] <greaser|q> fuji xerox are very much "fuck you"-tier
L68[01:09:02] <SoraFirestorm> uh... something something Emacs
L69[01:09:06] <greaser|q> HP actually provide drivers though
L70[01:09:24] <Antheus> great....
L71[01:09:29] <greaser|q> SoraFirestorm: the second best text editor ever
L72[01:09:44] <SoraFirestorm> s/the second//
L73[01:09:44] <Izaya> ... after all the other text editors
L74[01:09:44] <MichiBot> <greaser|q> SoraFirestorm: best text editor ever
L75[01:09:53] <Izaya> vim > emacs
L76[01:09:54] <greaser|q> s/text editor/operating system/
L77[01:09:55] <MichiBot> <Izaya> ... after all the other operating systems
L78[01:09:59] <greaser|q> fuck
L79[01:10:17] <Antheus> Guess o
L80[01:10:23] <Antheus> i'm doing a full system update
L81[01:10:31] <SoraFirestorm> that's nice?
L82[01:10:35] <Izaya> pacaur -Syu?
L83[01:10:51] <greaser|q> make buildworld && make buildkernel && make installworld && make installkernel && reboot
L84[01:10:57] <greaser|q> git gud scrubs
L85[01:11:08] <Antheus> Yes, Izaya
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L88[01:11:24] <SoraFirestorm> Hey VanillaBean
L89[01:11:29] <SoraFirestorm> did you ever get things sorted out?
L90[01:12:47] <SoraFirestorm> or are you still having trouble with events?
L91[01:12:51] <VanillaBean> Hi SoraFirestorm. I'm off to bed now but snowden89 helped me and pointed out that I wasn't opening the port, which is why it wasn't working for you
L92[01:12:57] <SoraFirestorm> ah
L93[01:12:58] <SoraFirestorm> ok
L94[01:13:05] <SoraFirestorm> makes sense
L95[01:13:42] <VanillaBean> I'm thinking that I haven't been closing them properly which might be why the events are doubling on me
L96[01:13:43] <SoraFirestorm> what about your double event pull?
L97[01:13:55] <SoraFirestorm> closing what exactly?
L98[01:14:05] <VanillaBean> the modem port
L99[01:14:14] <SoraFirestorm> that shouldn't have anything to do with it
L100[01:14:32] <VanillaBean> hm
L101[01:14:47] <VanillaBean> then I don't have an answer yet
L102[01:14:53] <SoraFirestorm> IIRC, you don't even need to open ports for just sending out
L103[01:15:15] <VanillaBean> just for listening?
L104[01:15:16] <Antheus> Yes o do
L105[01:15:16] <SoraFirestorm> ~w event
L106[01:15:16] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L107[01:15:21] <SoraFirestorm> ~w modem
L108[01:15:21] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
L109[01:15:33] <Antheus> You need to open the port iirc
L110[01:15:41] <Antheus> if you are listening, sending, or recieving
L111[01:15:59] <SoraFirestorm> well, I have Minecraft running
L112[01:16:01] <SoraFirestorm> might as well test
L113[01:16:20] <VanillaBean> well, I gotta get to bed
L114[01:16:51] <VanillaBean> it will probably be 2 days before I get back to this :/
L115[01:16:56] <SF-MC> no, no you do not
L116[01:17:10] <SF-MC> open is only necesary for listening
L117[01:17:17] <SF-MC> which, btw VanillaBean
L118[01:17:24] <SF-MC> I'm not getting any double prints or anything
L119[01:17:33] <VanillaBean> hm
L120[01:17:36] <SF-MC> now
L121[01:17:41] <SF-MC> here's something I'm doing that you may not be
L122[01:17:47] <SF-MC> I have a relay between the computers
L123[01:17:53] <VanillaBean> are you using a robot or computer?
L124[01:17:56] <SF-MC> so that only network msgs pass through the cable
L125[01:18:05] <SF-MC> computer on both sides, but that shouldn't mater
L126[01:18:13] <VanillaBean> I'm using a robot
L127[01:18:19] <Izaya> fuck I use too many distros
L128[01:18:23] <SF-MC> well
L129[01:18:24] <SF-MC> holon
L130[01:18:27] <VanillaBean> can't cable a robot
L131[01:18:28] <Izaya> sudo apt-get -S torsocks
L132[01:18:40] <snowden89> you dont use enough Izaya
L133[01:19:08] <Izaya> snowden89: the beard farm is in progress
L134[01:19:22] <VanillaBean> snowden89, back to work!
L135[01:19:27] <VanillaBean> :)
L136[01:19:38] <snowden89> http://xkcd.com/1654/ < izaya just run this for all your software
L137[01:19:41] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Universal Install Script Posted on: 3/11/2016
L138[01:19:41] <snowden89> one should work :P
L139[01:19:46] <Izaya> ah that one
L140[01:19:51] <snowden89> yeah
L141[01:20:24] <VanillaBean> docker...this is recent
L142[01:20:30] <greaser|q> no prt-get what the hell are you doing randall
L143[01:21:08] <Izaya> >no cd /usr/ports/$1; make install;
L144[01:21:29] <SF-MC> seems fine with a robot on the client side
L145[01:21:37] <VanillaBean> hm
L146[01:21:41] <VanillaBean> ok
L147[01:21:46] <SF-MC> upgraded the relay to be a wireless relay
L148[01:21:54] <SF-MC> testing with Creatix as my robot
L149[01:22:01] <VanillaBean> something's up on my end i guess
L150[01:22:06] <SF-MC> must be
L151[01:22:11] <SF-MC> check your network topology
L152[01:22:18] <VanillaBean> thanks for testing it for me
L153[01:22:20] <SF-MC> yup
L154[01:22:27] <SF-MC> 1.5.22.46
L155[01:22:32] <SF-MC> is my specific version btw
L156[01:22:38] <VanillaBean> ok
L157[01:22:42] <VanillaBean> thanks
L158[01:22:43] <Antheus> HP's drivers for linux don't work for my HP printer
L159[01:22:46] <Antheus> .-.
L160[01:22:53] <SF-MC> Antheus: just use CUPS?
L161[01:22:59] <snowden89> via usb?
L162[01:23:04] <snowden89> cause you should be using cups?
L163[01:23:07] <Antheus> Network
L164[01:23:47] <snowden89> are you able to ping the printer?
L165[01:23:50] <Antheus> yes
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L167[01:24:40] <greaser|q> on the plus side cups tends to automatically detect network printers even ones it completely lacks drivers for
L168[01:24:47] <snowden89> ^
L169[01:24:57] <snowden89> definetly HP they are all kind of the same
L170[01:24:58] <greaser|q> well ok when i say automatically detect i mean you click add printer and it'll show up in a list
L171[01:25:04] <SF-MC> 11/10 CUPS is great
L172[01:25:19] <snowden89> fuji xerox seems to be difficult at times
L173[01:25:28] <gamax92> I have a parallel port printer
L174[01:25:49] <snowden89> is it a dot matrix printer?
L175[01:25:53] <gamax92> no
L176[01:26:04] <snowden89> does it use thermal bands and those long reels of paper?
L177[01:26:09] <gamax92> no
L178[01:26:40] <snowden89> not seen a printer using actual printer ports for so long
L179[01:26:47] <greaser|q> the frustrating thing is that printers are "almost standardised", but by "almost" i mean printer manufacturers are just deliberately being difficult and making up as many incompatibilities as they can so your PCL printers don't work
L180[01:26:54] <gamax92> It's not the newest thing.
L181[01:27:08] <snowden89> normally its always ethernet, USB, wifi
L182[01:27:11] <greaser|q> so "mostly" is probably a better term, as "almost" implies they're actually fucking trying to clean their shit up
L183[01:27:19] <greaser|q> and they definitely aren't
L184[01:27:21] <SF-MC> s/normally/nowadays/
L185[01:27:22] <MichiBot> <snowden89> nowadays its always ethernet, USB, wifi
L186[01:27:35] <SF-MC> wasn't always so :P
L187[01:27:43] <snowden89> yeah i know
L188[01:27:48] <snowden89> thats why i am wondering the age lol
L189[01:27:54] <greaser|q> heck, later HP printers require you to download a proprietary blob
L190[01:28:22] <greaser|q> suspecting it's because they're sick of hearing that windows is a shit of a thing to install printer drivers on and linux actually managed to be easier to install drivers for by a country mile
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L192[01:28:48] <snowden89> lol i love how you get new mac users
L193[01:28:59] <snowden89> running in a circle becuase the CDs wont load .exe
L194[01:29:02] <snowden89> on there computer
L195[01:29:03] <greaser|q> ahahahahaha
L196[01:29:22] <greaser|q> first time i used linux, was a shock to the system to find out that executables didn't have a file extension
L197[01:29:40] <snowden89> that executables could be any file type you like
L198[01:29:48] <gamax92> it actually has a usb port on it, but I lack a cable, nor remember if it actually worked at all
L199[01:29:50] <greaser|q> the problem with hardware on linux is "does this piece of hardware work properly, if at all". if the answer is "yes", it usually Just Works(tm)
L200[01:29:54] <SF-MC> ugh, the whole 'extension association' system in Windows is the most broken shit ever
L201[01:30:07] <greaser|q> the problem with hardware on windows on the other hand is "where the fuck are the drivers for this"
L202[01:30:14] <greaser|q> they're out there, they're just not bundled
L203[01:30:18] <SF-MC> almost as bad as wiring the display server into the kernel
L204[01:30:39] <Izaya> oh man
L205[01:30:49] <Izaya> ever tried to reinstall windows on 7 machines with no CDs?
L206[01:31:02] <snowden89> nope i dont beleive you can
L207[01:31:06] <greaser|q> does it involve running fdisk and format
L208[01:31:07] <snowden89> always asks for rescue CD?
L209[01:31:14] <snowden89> or rescue disk of some kind
L210[01:31:14] <greaser|q> i mean you can definitely do it with windows 9x
L211[01:31:36] <greaser|q> you just have to do it the usual way, which is if the disk isn't partitioned or formatted you need to deal with fdisk and/or format
L212[01:31:45] <gamax92> flash drive?
L213[01:31:52] <gamax92> install from hdd?
L214[01:31:58] <gamax92> network install?
L215[01:32:00] <gamax92> image?
L216[01:32:10] <greaser|q> i get the feeling if computers didn't have the OS preinstalled, we'd have more linux users... or more appropriately, fewer windows users
L217[01:32:17] <SF-MC> ^
L218[01:32:21] <Izaya> snowden89: fresh CD
L219[01:32:25] <greaser|q> windows is actually a shit of a thing to get working
L220[01:32:26] <Izaya> DVD rather
L221[01:32:35] <Izaya> because Windows can't cope with <701M
L222[01:32:49] <Izaya> of RAM, HDD or network usage
L223[01:32:57] <Izaya> or CD size for that matter
L224[01:33:01] <SF-MC> greaser|q: exactly because 99% of Windows installations are performed by the OEM
L225[01:33:05] <greaser|q> oh yeah, fun thing, i installed crux on this by using a second laptop running python's built-in web server and copying across the crux iso, while using a fedora 16 live cd
L226[01:33:29] <SF-MC> that's...
L227[01:33:30] <SF-MC> wow
L228[01:33:30] <greaser|q> and because red hat suck arse, i had to use firefox to download it as they do not provide wget on their live cd
L229[01:33:31] <SF-MC> ok
L230[01:33:37] <Izaya> SF-MC: they also only have to do an iso for a line of machines once
L231[01:33:37] <SF-MC> srsly?
L232[01:33:44] <Izaya> then it autoinstalls all their crapware
L233[01:33:45] <SF-MC> no wget on a live?
L234[01:33:47] <SF-MC> I doubt it
L235[01:33:49] <greaser|q> yep
L236[01:33:55] <snowden89> that seems odd
L237[01:33:57] <SF-MC> also
L238[01:33:58] <Izaya> the extra shit like Microsoft Bing Malware Toolbar
L239[01:34:05] <Izaya> chrome because fuck your privacy
L240[01:34:08] <SF-MC> s/ Bing //
L241[01:34:09] <MichiBot> <Izaya> the extra shit like MicrosoftMalware Toolbar
L242[01:34:12] <greaser|q> don't doubt it, we're talking about redhat, proud lovers of wonderful reliable pieces of slim linux software like pulseaudio
L243[01:34:14] <Izaya> and hopefully some drivers too
L244[01:34:22] <SF-MC> but I like Redhat :(
L245[01:34:33] <greaser|q> ever since systemd i stopped liking them
L246[01:34:45] <SF-MC> *sigh
L247[01:34:48] <greaser|q> my disdain for it was when i tried to fix something
L248[01:34:49] <SF-MC> *
L249[01:34:53] <snowden89> lol i love how chromium has become second common form of browser hijacking software
L250[01:34:57] <snowden89> after opera
L251[01:34:58] <greaser|q> and hey, copying the files across using a CD it saved me having to actually burn yet another CD
L252[01:35:04] <greaser|q> erm, using a livecd
L253[01:35:08] <greaser|q> that was already burnt
L254[01:35:14] <Izaya> systemd is a nice init system
L255[01:35:16] <Izaya> but a terrible OS
L256[01:35:34] <greaser|q> and i still don't know where the fucking unit files are
L257[01:35:39] <greaser|q> even though someone told me once
L258[01:35:45] <snowden89> i normally use bootable USBs
L259[01:35:58] <greaser|q> anyway, i found out today that CRUX will happily boot without an initrd
L260[01:35:58] * Izaya uses PXE
L261[01:36:03] <SF-MC> . /lib/systemd/* ?
L262[01:36:05] * gamax92 uses bootable USBs
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L264[01:36:30] <greaser|q> which shaved off the 10 seconds it wastes waiting for devices it hasn't loaded drivers for to settle
L265[01:36:33] <snowden89> cause dealing with disks be they floppy or CD is just to much work
L266[01:36:47] <SoraFirestorm> yes, /lib/systemd/*
L267[01:36:54] <greaser|q> after the grub delay it takes about 10 seconds to get to xdm
L268[01:37:04] <greaser|q> it's a BSD init system too ;)
L269[01:37:14] <greaser|q> BSD init is best init
L270[01:37:58] <gamax92> greaser|q: I get ~20 seconds after grub, used to be like 50 though, but fixed by preloading stuff into cache
L271[01:37:59] <greaser|q> think sysv init, but without the runlevel hackery, with dependency resolution, and a simple config file
L272[01:38:17] <greaser|q> it does help having a hybrid SSHD
L273[01:38:31] <SoraFirestorm> indeed it would
L274[01:38:59] <gamax92> greaser|q: I have no SSD
L275[01:39:14] <greaser|q> still, bsd init is my favourite init system, it's fairly straightforward and when shit breaks you can fix it
L276[01:39:22] <greaser|q> anyhow afk, food
L277[01:46:31] <SoraFirestorm> eventually I'll upgrade to an SSD
L278[01:46:52] <SoraFirestorm> once the GB/$ matches that of spinny drivers
L279[01:47:11] <lperkins2> Probably be a long time before that happens...
L280[01:47:39] <v^> SoraFirestorm, the physical memory is much cheaper than HDDs
L281[01:47:39] <SoraFirestorm> GB/$ has been steadily improving
L282[01:47:55] <lperkins2> yes, for spinning disks too
L283[01:47:55] <v^> but they layer it to give it as much endurance as an hdd would get
L284[01:48:45] <v^> so if you arent downloading a bunch of crap then there is unused flash
L285[01:49:11] <lperkins2> $50 for 1TB spinning disk
L286[01:49:38] <lperkins2> and $104 for 3TB
L287[01:49:51] <lperkins2> ssds are no where near $30/TB
L288[01:50:08] <SoraFirestorm> which is why I'm waiting for the price ratio to get better
L289[01:50:49] <SoraFirestorm> tbh, I really want an SSD for the power efficiency gains
L290[01:50:55] <SoraFirestorm> not because they are faster
L291[01:51:11] <lperkins2> right, that's why I put one in my laptop,
L292[01:51:11] <SoraFirestorm> but faster is a nice plus
L293[01:51:17] <lperkins2> get 8 hours of battery life
L294[01:51:27] <SoraFirestorm> I get... a few
L295[01:51:44] <SoraFirestorm> I've heard that the power efficiency gains aren't spectacular though
L296[01:51:54] <lperkins2> depends on the use profile,
L297[01:51:56] <SoraFirestorm> I saw +30 minutes vs a spinny drive
L298[01:53:12] <lperkins2> the hard drive isn't usually the main power sink, so it doesn't usually make that much of a difference
L299[01:53:18] <SoraFirestorm> right
L300[01:53:31] <SoraFirestorm> I think my bigger sinks are my CPU and GPU
L301[01:53:40] <lperkins2> if you're constantly writing to the spinning disk, it sucks a lot more power than the ssd,
L302[01:53:44] <SoraFirestorm> I did intentionally trade for better hardware
L303[01:53:56] <SoraFirestorm> I opted for an i7 vs an i5
L304[01:54:07] <Izaya> I think I lose more power to cooling than anything else on my laptop
L305[01:54:07] <SoraFirestorm> and also opted for a dedicated graphics adapter
L306[01:54:09] <lperkins2> linux log files tend to always be writing, so I couldn't get my spinning disk to sleep for more than 30 seconds at a go, hence the ssd
L307[01:54:19] <SoraFirestorm> hm
L308[01:54:24] <Izaya> lperkins2: why not ramdisk and logrotate?
L309[01:54:27] <SoraFirestorm> I tend to have very little disk activity
L310[01:54:45] <lperkins2> more of a pain to set up, plus crash recovery is better if you have the log :)
L311[01:54:48] <SoraFirestorm> especially compared to Windows
L312[01:54:51] *** Skwid|Sleep is now known as Skwid
L313[01:54:59] <SoraFirestorm> Windows sits there and hammers on the HDD
L314[01:55:03] <lperkins2> I've got an optimus graphics system, so I can turn off the fancy gpu when I'm not playing minecraft
L315[01:55:13] <lperkins2> with it on, I get about 30 minutes of battery life
L316[01:55:15] <SoraFirestorm> I believe I have Optimus
L317[01:55:25] <snowden89> i dont know my laptop is a tank
L318[01:55:28] <SoraFirestorm> I have no idea how to properly turn it off though
L319[01:55:34] <SoraFirestorm> I'm using nouveau
L320[01:55:34] <snowden89> so its normally always on cable anyway
L321[01:55:35] * Izaya has original Intel Integrated HD Graphics
L322[01:55:48] <lperkins2> I get the 8 hours by turning the cpu to 800mhz, turning the screen brightness down, and turning off bumblebee
L323[01:55:56] <SoraFirestorm> aaah
L324[01:56:01] <SoraFirestorm> I've not bothered to underclock
L325[01:56:18] <SoraFirestorm> Linux scales down the frequency when not under load anyhow
L326[01:56:19] <lperkins2> um, if you've got optimus, the bbswitch kernel module lets you disable the discreet card,
L327[01:56:50] <lperkins2> echo OFF > /proc/acpi/bbswitch
L328[01:56:55] * Izaya can get 5 (down from 8 3 years ago) if he a) underclocks to 733Mhz, b) has the brightness most of the way down, c) uses a vtty instead of X, d) turns off all the unneccesary crap that is in laptops like bluetooth
L329[01:56:57] <lperkins2> ON to reenable it
L330[01:57:18] <SoraFirestorm> I don't have /proc/acpi/bbswitch
L331[01:57:19] <SoraFirestorm> hm
L332[01:57:23] <lperkins2> modprobe bbswitch
L333[01:57:38] <lperkins2> I had to specifically install it, sys-power/bbswitch in gentoo
L334[01:57:46] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop acpi] $ sudo modprobe bbswitch
L335[01:57:46] <SoraFirestorm> [sudo] password for root:
L336[01:57:46] <SoraFirestorm> modprobe: FATAL: Module bbswitch not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
L337[01:57:46] <SoraFirestorm>
L338[01:57:56] <SoraFirestorm> I'll do a package search
L339[01:58:05] <SoraFirestorm> nope
L340[01:58:10] <lperkins2> what distro?
L341[01:58:14] <SoraFirestorm> Fedora 23
L342[01:58:21] <lperkins2> oh, I'm sorry :-P
L343[01:58:45] <lperkins2> try bbswitch-dksm
L344[01:58:47] <SoraFirestorm> :P
L345[01:58:50] <SoraFirestorm> did try
L346[01:58:59] <SoraFirestorm> I'm fiddling with my search query
L347[01:59:11] <SoraFirestorm> it may also be that my card is too new
L348[01:59:24] <SoraFirestorm> 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 940M] (rev a2)
L349[01:59:24] <SoraFirestorm>
L350[01:59:49] <lperkins2> mine is like 3 years old, NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 735M]
L351[02:00:28] <lperkins2> you use bumblebee to launch programs on the discrete card?
L352[02:00:39] <SoraFirestorm> no
L353[02:00:42] <SoraFirestorm> I don't choose
L354[02:00:45] <SoraFirestorm> I think the system does
L355[02:00:53] <SoraFirestorm> idk how it works
L356[02:00:55] <lperkins2> are you sure you ever use the discrete card?
L357[02:01:02] <SoraFirestorm> no :P
L358[02:01:16] <snowden89> such wasted potantial :(
L359[02:01:17] <lperkins2> glxinfo | grep -i nvidia
L360[02:01:30] <lperkins2> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
L361[02:01:31] <SoraFirestorm> OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
L362[02:01:32] <SoraFirestorm>
L363[02:01:42] <lperkins2> you're not using nvidia graphics
L364[02:02:04] <lperkins2> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bumblebee
L365[02:02:09] <SoraFirestorm> then I'm actually seriously impressed with the Intel Intergrated <3
L366[02:02:18] <lperkins2> they're pretty nice, opengl 3.3 or some such
L367[02:02:20] <SoraFirestorm> Because it's hella better than the old dual graphics
L368[02:02:34] <SoraFirestorm> last laptop had 2x ATI Radeon 7ks
L369[02:02:50] <SoraFirestorm> one as part of the APU, one dedicated
L370[02:03:50] <lperkins2> the dedicated graphics matters more on the i5 or i3 than the i7
L371[02:04:09] <SoraFirestorm> what do you mean?
L372[02:04:12] <lperkins2> I really only bothered to get the discrete card for cuFFT and the like
L373[02:04:26] <lperkins2> so the i7 is slightly better as a GPU than the i5 or i3,
L374[02:04:36] <lperkins2> I think it's intel HD 3300 instead of HD 3000
L375[02:05:08] <Izaya> IMO the best laptop graphics would be Intel Iris Pro
L376[02:05:18] <Izaya> great linux drivers, low power consumption, reasonably fast
L377[02:05:57] <lperkins2> heh, I've not gone shopping in like 2 and a half years, so my knowledge is a bit out of date
L378[02:05:58] ⇦ Parts: Kubuxu (~Kubuxu@vs1.kubuxu.ovh) (WeeChat 1.4))
L379[02:06:21] <lperkins2> looks like intel is actually doing a good job in the GPU market
L380[02:06:28] <SoraFirestorm> I'm a little afraid of adding a 3rd party repo
L381[02:06:51] <SoraFirestorm> North Carolina State Uni
L382[02:06:53] <lperkins2> can build it yourself from git...
L383[02:06:56] <SoraFirestorm> meh, I'll do it
L384[02:07:06] <SoraFirestorm> fedoraproject wiki is recommending it
L385[02:08:14] <lperkins2> hm, Intel Iris Pro supporit SIMD?
L386[02:09:05] <SoraFirestorm> I've heard that Intel graphics chipsets are fine...
L387[02:09:12] <SoraFirestorm> so long as you aren't trying to game with them :P
L388[02:09:45] <lperkins2> they run most games reasonably well
L389[02:09:59] <Izaya> dunno, never touched a machine with them
L390[02:10:27] <lperkins2> big thing is they can only run the game, not a lot of things in the background too
L391[02:10:59] <SoraFirestorm> if what lperkins2 is saying is true, then Intel intergrated does at least a good job of running Xonotic @ 1080p with fairly heavy graphics settings
L392[02:11:13] <SoraFirestorm> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Skylake Integrated Graphics (rev 07)
L393[02:11:14] <SoraFirestorm>
L394[02:11:16] <lperkins2> expect to lose an entire core (2 virtual thanks to hyperthreading) to the graphics
L395[02:11:20] <SoraFirestorm> is my Intel graphics adapter btw
L396[02:11:28] <Antheus> \o/
L397[02:11:32] <Antheus> got the printer working
L398[02:11:34] <SoraFirestorm> anyways
L399[02:11:59] <lperkins2> so if you get bumblebee + optirun working, you'll see your CPU load much lower when running xonotic
L400[02:12:16] <SoraFirestorm> wasn't ever watching CPU load
L401[02:12:17] <SoraFirestorm> soooo
L402[02:12:27] <lperkins2> heh, I always have my computers trying to do too much
L403[02:12:34] <SoraFirestorm> anyways
L404[02:12:37] <SoraFirestorm> got the packages installed
L405[02:12:42] <SoraFirestorm> gunna pull a reboot
L406[02:12:44] <SoraFirestorm> brb
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L409[02:16:17] <SoraFirestorm> was able to boot back up \o/
L410[02:17:24] <SoraFirestorm> anyways
L411[02:17:27] <SoraFirestorm> battery is mostly dead
L412[02:17:44] <SoraFirestorm> so I can't really give a new estimated battery life time
L413[02:18:06] <lperkins2> bbswitch available?
L414[02:18:24] <SoraFirestorm> lperkins2: /proc/acpi/bbswitch available, yes
L415[02:18:51] <lperkins2> oh, and if you want to use the nvidia drivers (instead of the FOSS ones), you have to specify that (/etc/bumblebee.conf or distribution equivalent)
L416[02:19:07] <SoraFirestorm> I do not
L417[02:19:12] <SoraFirestorm> I wish to use nouveau
L418[02:19:35] <SoraFirestorm> I've fought fglrx a few times too many
L419[02:19:37] <lperkins2> haven't tried nouveau in several years, last time I did, it couldn't come close to nvidia's performance
L420[02:19:49] <SoraFirestorm> I'm painfully aware of the breakage that can happen
L421[02:19:52] <lperkins2> fglrx is crap, never gonna buy another radeon card
L422[02:20:04] <SoraFirestorm> when I finally migrated back to radeon
L423[02:20:05] <SoraFirestorm> it was fine
L424[02:20:13] <SoraFirestorm> ymmv
L425[02:20:16] <lperkins2> also never had problems with nvidia, but I'm on a slightly more flexible distro
L426[02:21:17] <lperkins2> to run something on the discrete card, make sure bumblebeed is running, then use optirun <program> [program args]
L427[02:21:48] <lperkins2> something like `optirun glxinfo | grep -i vendor
L428[02:21:57] <SoraFirestorm> uhm
L429[02:22:04] <SoraFirestorm> [ 496.912283] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card0: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied
L430[02:22:04] <SoraFirestorm>
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L432[02:22:10] <SoraFirestorm> that's no good
L433[02:22:29] <lperkins2> you must be in the video group, probably
L434[02:22:44] <lperkins2> at least it's the video group on gentoo and debian
L435[02:22:48] <SoraFirestorm> I forget how to list my own groups
L436[02:22:49] <lperkins2> ls -l /dev/dri/card0
L437[02:22:52] <lperkins2> groups
L438[02:22:58] <SoraFirestorm> derp...
L439[02:23:05] <SoraFirestorm> Sora bumblebee
L440[02:23:05] <SoraFirestorm>
L441[02:23:31] <SoraFirestorm> could have sworn I was part of several other groups...
L442[02:23:35] <lperkins2> bumblebee group lets you talk to the bumblebee daemon, but not access the video card
L443[02:23:39] <SoraFirestorm> meh
L444[02:23:52] <gamax92> lperkins2: :P
L445[02:23:59] <lperkins2> disk wheel uucp audio cdrom video games users vboxusers bumblebee crontab sudo
L446[02:24:09] <SoraFirestorm> yeaah
L447[02:24:09] <gamax92> vboxusers!
L448[02:26:38] <SoraFirestorm> gotta logout
L449[02:26:39] <SoraFirestorm> holdon
L450[02:26:49] ⇦ Quits: SoraFirestorm (~user@131-191-86-130.as.clicknet.org) (Remote host closed the connection)
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L452[02:27:38] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop ~] $ groups
L453[02:27:38] <SoraFirestorm> Sora disk cdrom games video audio
L454[02:27:38] <SoraFirestorm>
L455[02:27:43] <SoraFirestorm> wtf
L456[02:27:48] <SoraFirestorm> why did you remove bumblebee!
L457[02:28:29] <SoraFirestorm> whatever
L458[02:28:37] <Antheus> SoraFirestorm, so do you need to open the port to send messages?
L459[02:28:45] <SoraFirestorm> no,
L460[02:28:48] <SoraFirestorm> only for recv
L461[02:28:53] <SoraFirestorm> for sending just send
L462[02:29:07] <SoraFirestorm> brb relogging
L463[02:29:12] ⇦ Quits: SoraFirestorm (~user@131-191-86-130.as.clicknet.org) (Remote host closed the connection)
L464[02:29:25] <Skwid> %quote
L465[02:29:28] <MichiBot> Quote #9: <vifino> DeanIsaKitty, you're an idiot. I like you.
L466[02:29:44] *** Skwid is now known as Ajloveslily
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L468[02:30:01] <Sora> let's try this again
L469[02:30:15] *** Sora is now known as Guest31620
L470[02:30:34] <Antheus> %quote
L471[02:30:34] <MichiBot> Quote #16: <Antheus> "If you want dick, look at Kodos"
L472[02:30:39] <Guest31620> [Sora@SoraLaptop ~] $ glxinfo | grep -i vendor
L473[02:30:39] <Guest31620> server glx vendor string: SGI
L474[02:30:40] <Guest31620> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
L475[02:30:40] <Guest31620> OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
L476[02:30:42] <Guest31620>
L477[02:30:45] *** Guest31620 is now known as SoraFirestorm
L478[02:30:58] <lperkins2> need to prefix it with optirun
L479[02:31:00] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop ~] $ optirun glxinfo | grep -i vendor
L480[02:31:01] <SoraFirestorm> [ 1041.303673] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card0: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied
L481[02:31:01] <SoraFirestorm>
L482[02:31:04] <SoraFirestorm> was about to
L483[02:31:06] <lperkins2> crap
L484[02:31:13] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop ~] $ groups Sora
L485[02:31:13] <SoraFirestorm> Sora : Sora disk cdrom games video audio bumblebee
L486[02:31:13] <SoraFirestorm>
L487[02:31:22] <lperkins2> ls -l /dev/dri/card0
L488[02:31:29] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop ~] $ ls -l /dev/dri/card0
L489[02:31:29] <SoraFirestorm> crw-rw----+ 1 root video 226, 0 Mar 15 00:13 /dev/dri/card0
L490[02:31:30] <SoraFirestorm>
L491[02:31:30] <lperkins2> might not be the video group on fedora...
L492[02:31:39] <lperkins2> odd...
L493[02:31:42] <SoraFirestorm> indeed
L494[02:31:57] <lperkins2> what user is bumblebeed running as?
L495[02:32:02] <lperkins2> and is it in the video group?
L496[02:32:23] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop ~] $ ps aux | grep -i bumblebee
L497[02:32:23] <Ajloveslily> ls -i test
L498[02:32:23] <SoraFirestorm> root 1024 0.0 0.0 25776 3392 ? Ss 00:14 0:00 /usr/sbin/bumblebeed
L499[02:32:23] <SoraFirestorm> Sora 5503 0.0 0.0 118476 2360 pts/1 S+ 00:32 0:00 grep --color=auto -i bumblebee
L500[02:32:23] <SoraFirestorm>
L501[02:32:27] <Ajloveslily> tf
L502[02:32:34] <Ajloveslily> alias
L503[02:32:45] <SoraFirestorm> so... root?
L504[02:32:49] <lperkins2> yup..
L505[02:32:55] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop ~] $ groups root
L506[02:32:55] <SoraFirestorm> root : root
L507[02:32:55] <SoraFirestorm>
L508[02:33:05] <Ajloveslily> what if we just deleted it?
L509[02:33:07] <SoraFirestorm> not *quite* comfortable changing root's groups
L510[02:33:09] <lperkins2> root owns /dev/dri/card0
L511[02:33:15] <SoraFirestorm> right
L512[02:33:17] <lperkins2> so it doesn't need to be in the video group
L513[02:33:27] <lperkins2> what about the permissions on /dev/dri?
L514[02:33:27] <SoraFirestorm> ah, right right
L515[02:33:41] <Ajloveslily> rm -rf --no-preserve-root / works most of the time
L516[02:34:20] <lperkins2> um,
L517[02:34:30] <SoraFirestorm> drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 100 Mar 14 17:13 dri/
L518[02:34:30] <SoraFirestorm>
L519[02:34:31] <lperkins2> cat /proc/acpi/bbswitch
L520[02:34:34] <SoraFirestorm> I suppose that would do it
L521[02:34:45] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ cat /proc/acpi/bbswitch
L522[02:34:45] <SoraFirestorm> 0000:01:00.0 ON
L523[02:34:45] <SoraFirestorm>
L524[02:34:51] <lperkins2> that's the same as my /dev/dri permissions
L525[02:34:55] <greaser|q> aaand bapck
L526[02:34:59] <SoraFirestorm> hrm
L527[02:35:21] <lperkins2> I don't see any reason you shouldn't be able to run it
L528[02:35:30] <lperkins2> maybe chgrp it to you
L529[02:35:44] <lperkins2> if that fixes it, your groups are still messed up
L530[02:35:59] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ groups Sora
L531[02:35:59] <SoraFirestorm> Sora : Sora disk cdrom games video audio bumblebee
L532[02:35:59] <SoraFirestorm>
L533[02:36:10] <SoraFirestorm> and I haven't fiddled with them since logging back in this time
L534[02:36:12] <lperkins2> upper case username?
L535[02:36:15] <SoraFirestorm> yes
L536[02:36:25] <SoraFirestorm> I'm such a rebel
L537[02:36:29] <lperkins2> I'm surprised that hasn't caused any issues...
L538[02:36:35] <SoraFirestorm> never has
L539[02:36:46] <SoraFirestorm> I've run systems like this for years
L540[02:36:56] <Ajloveslily> SoraFirestorm, what are you trying to do?
L541[02:36:56] <SoraFirestorm> my username is invariably 'Sora' on these systems
L542[02:37:11] <SoraFirestorm> Ajloveslily: get Optimus working
L543[02:37:13] <lperkins2> yeah, I never had problems with it, but then I was told it's not the 'proper' way,
L544[02:37:24] <SoraFirestorm> Well, strictly speaking, it's not
L545[02:37:31] <SoraFirestorm> but that's never stopped me :)
L546[02:37:38] <lperkins2> anyway, I'd sudo chgrp Sora /dev/dri/card0
L547[02:37:42] <lperkins2> and see if that makes it work
L548[02:37:46] <lperkins2> should last until next reboot
L549[02:37:51] <SoraFirestorm> was about to ask
L550[02:37:53] <lperkins2> could also chown it
L551[02:37:59] <SoraFirestorm> that'll reset at reboot
L552[02:38:07] <SoraFirestorm> makes me feel better about doing it
L553[02:38:12] <lperkins2> well, I can't promise if it will on fedora...
L554[02:38:22] <lperkins2> I've not run fedora since 2008
L555[02:38:39] <lperkins2> but if it uses udev or anything similar to it, it will
L556[02:38:46] <SoraFirestorm> bbswitch is having an effect though
L557[02:38:50] <lperkins2> worst case, you change it back
L558[02:38:54] <lperkins2> that'd be a good sign
L559[02:38:56] <SoraFirestorm> battery life doubled with it OFF
L560[02:38:58] <Ajloveslily> What's fedora? an os?
L561[02:39:06] <SoraFirestorm> Linux distro
L562[02:39:06] <lperkins2> a linux distro,
L563[02:39:10] <Ajloveslily> ah
L564[02:39:20] <Ajloveslily> *tips fedora* m'distro
L565[02:39:23] <lperkins2> it's the professional, enterprise version linked to CentOS
L566[02:39:26] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ optirun glxinfo | grep -i vendor
L567[02:39:26] <SoraFirestorm> [ 1547.049306] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card0: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied
L568[02:39:26] <SoraFirestorm>
L569[02:39:33] <lperkins2> what was your gpu?
L570[02:39:40] <lperkins2> how new is it?
L571[02:39:43] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ ls -l /dev/dri/card0
L572[02:39:43] <SoraFirestorm> crw-rw----+ 1 root Sora 226, 0 Mar 15 00:13 /dev/dri/card0
L573[02:39:43] <SoraFirestorm>
L574[02:39:56] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ lspci | grep -i 3D
L575[02:39:56] <SoraFirestorm> 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 940M] (rev a2)
L576[02:39:56] <SoraFirestorm>
L577[02:40:08] <SoraFirestorm> pretty new afaict
L578[02:41:15] <lperkins2> try
L579[02:41:17] <lperkins2> which primusrun
L580[02:41:30] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ which primusrun
L581[02:41:30] <SoraFirestorm> /usr/bin/which: no primusrun in (/home/Sora/i686-elf-cross/bin:/home/Sora/bin:/home/Sora/i686-elf-cross/bin:/home/Sora/bin:/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/home/Sora/.local/bin:/home/Sora/.local/bin)
L582[02:41:30] <SoraFirestorm>
L583[02:42:24] <lperkins2> try optiurn -b primus glxinfo
L584[02:42:45] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ optirun -b primus glxinfo
L585[02:42:45] <SoraFirestorm> [ 1747.704553] [ERROR]Accel/display bridge primus is not installed.
L586[02:42:45] <SoraFirestorm>
L587[02:42:59] <SoraFirestorm> I suspect that's a problem
L588[02:43:23] <lperkins2> hm,
L589[02:43:27] <SoraFirestorm> battery life is shooting up tough
L590[02:43:32] <lperkins2> maybe chown Sora /dev/dri/card0
L591[02:43:33] <SoraFirestorm> when I turn bbswitch OFF
L592[02:43:41] <SoraFirestorm> which is really nice <3
L593[02:43:57] <Ajloveslily> could be a case of treating symptoms and not illness
L594[02:44:22] <lperkins2> well, I find some people who seem to be using the 940M with optirun successfully,
L595[02:44:45] <lperkins2> and it's not like it's crashing or something, the kernel just won't let you run it...
L596[02:44:54] <lperkins2> other thing would be sudo optirun glxinfo
L597[02:44:59] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ ls -l /dev/dri/card0
L598[02:45:00] <SoraFirestorm> crw-rw----+ 1 Sora Sora 226, 0 Mar 15 00:13 /dev/dri/card0
L599[02:45:00] <SoraFirestorm>
L600[02:45:11] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ optirun glxinfo | grep -i vendor
L601[02:45:11] <SoraFirestorm> [ 1895.408699] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card0: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied
L602[02:45:11] <SoraFirestorm>
L603[02:45:11] <SoraFirestorm> [ 1895.408790] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
L604[02:45:16] <SoraFirestorm> this is... puzzling
L605[02:45:30] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop dev] $ sudo optirun glxinfo | grep -i vendor
L606[02:45:30] <SoraFirestorm> [sudo] password for root:
L607[02:45:30] <SoraFirestorm> [ 1913.557281] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card0: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied
L608[02:45:30] <SoraFirestorm>
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L611[02:45:33] <SoraFirestorm> [ 1913.557388] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
L612[02:45:37] <SoraFirestorm>
L613[02:45:39] <lperkins2> uh huh,
L614[02:45:51] <SoraFirestorm> hey lperkins2
L615[02:45:55] <SoraFirestorm> It's getting late
L616[02:45:57] <lperkins2> cat /etc/bumblebee.conf or whatever it is
L617[02:45:58] <lperkins2> sure
L618[02:46:03] <SoraFirestorm> Thanks for all the help
L619[02:46:08] <lperkins2> I guess enjoy your better battery life :)
L620[02:46:13] <SoraFirestorm> We can continue sorting this out tomorrow or something
L621[02:46:15] <SoraFirestorm> oh yes
L622[02:46:16] <SoraFirestorm> for sure
L623[02:46:26] <SoraFirestorm> that's enough benefit for now :)
L624[02:46:31] <SoraFirestorm> again, thanks for your help
L625[02:46:36] <lperkins2> about the only difference between your install and mine (other than distro) is I'm using nvidia's proprietary drivers
L626[02:46:44] <lperkins2> so I don't know what else to suggest anyway
L627[02:46:52] <SoraFirestorm> But its 12:46 and I have a few things to do still
L628[02:46:52] <lperkins2> no problem, it's been fun :)
L629[02:46:57] <SoraFirestorm> last thing before I go
L630[02:46:59] <lperkins2> heh, PDT too
L631[02:47:02] <Ajloveslily> SoraFirestorm, you are listing dev/dri/card0 and nothing is showing?
L632[02:47:12] <lperkins2> no, /dev/dri/card0 is showing what it should
L633[02:47:13] <SoraFirestorm> Does bbswitch remember state between boots?
L634[02:47:22] <lperkins2> I don't know, I think so?
L635[02:47:40] <Ajloveslily> lperkins2, nothing?
L636[02:47:42] <lperkins2> you'll want to check on reboot
L637[02:47:43] <SoraFirestorm> guess I'll check tomorrow
L638[02:47:50] <SoraFirestorm> laters you lot
L639[02:47:55] <SoraFirestorm> o/
L640[02:47:57] <Ajloveslily> nn
L641[02:47:57] <Ajloveslily> p/
L642[02:47:59] <Ajloveslily> o/
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L644[02:48:05] <lperkins2> Ajloveslily crw-rw----+ 1 root Sora 226, 0 Mar 15 00:13 /dev/dri/card0
L645[02:48:20] <lperkins2> for some reason, pasting was including an empty line
L646[02:48:36] <Ajloveslily> oh they were just listing it to get the attrabutes on it
L647[02:48:52] <lperkins2> yup, cause writing to it kept coming back with permission denied
L648[02:49:02] <lperkins2> not sure why, even root got permission denied
L649[02:49:17] <Ajloveslily> that's super weird
L650[02:49:30] <lperkins2> it's kernel driver stuff,
L651[02:49:43] <Ajloveslily> how were they trying to write to it? no -f option I take it
L652[02:49:54] <lperkins2> you know about how linux maps hardware devices?
L653[02:50:04] <Ajloveslily> sorta kinda
L654[02:50:10] <lperkins2> /dev/* are file handles that interact with hardware
L655[02:50:21] <lperkins2> basically everything goes through the file API
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L657[02:50:46] <Ajloveslily> I'm very very new to it, I don't even run it...yet?
L658[02:50:46] <lperkins2> /dev/dri/card0 is the file interface for the nvidia GPU
L659[02:51:01] <Ajloveslily> yeah dri = driver
L660[02:51:09] <lperkins2> um, no
L661[02:51:13] <Ajloveslily> no?
L662[02:51:18] <lperkins2> dev=device
L663[02:51:22] <lperkins2> dri=...
L664[02:51:28] <lperkins2> something rendering something?
L665[02:51:47] <Ajloveslily> dri=dude radical imaging
L666[02:51:47] <lperkins2> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwinspzXmsLLAhUBS2MKHdNkCO8QFggcMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDirect_Rendering_Infrastructure&usg=AFQjCNH1ljZt02-ciDFNReqOF0Jg8Xiy0Q&sig2=V7r51MELEXNVjg6OXqCWCg&bvm=bv.116954456,d.cGc
L667[02:51:57] <lperkins2> direct rendering infrastructure
L668[02:51:58] <Ajloveslily> ah
L669[02:52:17] <lperkins2> commonly called 3d video acceleration
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L671[02:52:20] <Ajloveslily> if dev is device how is /dev/null affiliated with a device?
L672[02:52:28] <lperkins2> it is the null device
L673[02:52:33] <Ajloveslily> derp ofc
L674[02:52:41] <lperkins2> note that all of this sits on top of a virtualization layer
L675[02:52:44] * Lizzy groans
L676[02:52:59] <lperkins2> that way user programs don't have to actually know about the hardware
L677[02:53:17] <lperkins2> so /dev/null is a virtual device that provides no data and roundfiles any data given to it
L678[02:53:18] <Ajloveslily> lperkins2, so what were they trying to do that writes to /dev/dri/card0
L679[02:53:40] <lperkins2> Optimus video laptops have 2 graphics cards
L680[02:53:50] <lperkins2> an integrated one (intel i7 or similar)
L681[02:53:59] <lperkins2> and a discrete one (nvidia Optimus something)
L682[02:54:15] <lperkins2> the optimus card is not connected to anything, you can't plug a monitor into it
L683[02:54:35] <lperkins2> so instead you have to copy its framebuffer to the intel card to actually display stuff
L684[02:54:51] <lperkins2> the library + applications that let you do that easily are called Bumblebee
L685[02:55:11] <lperkins2> he was trying to connect to the bumblebeed daemon to get the glx information from the nvidia card
L686[02:55:37] <Ajloveslily> ohh
L687[02:55:56] <lperkins2> /dev/dri/card1 is the intel card, card0 is the nvidia card
L688[02:56:07] <lperkins2> for some reason, the nvidia card's driver was denying access to bumblebee
L689[03:00:21] <lperkins2> ugh, I restarted minecraft and now my remote terminal won't show anything...
L690[03:02:40] <lperkins2> there we go, had to break and replace the server rack
L691[03:05:01] <lperkins2> what's the eval function for lua?
L692[03:05:29] <greaser|q> load("print('dongs')")()
L693[03:05:32] <greaser|q> i think
L694[03:06:08] <lperkins2> crap, that's not elegant...
L695[03:06:41] <lperkins2> I suppose if I auto-prepend 'return' on the front of the string it'd be okay...
L696[03:09:22] <greaser|q> function eval(s, ...) return load(s)(...) end
L697[03:09:26] <greaser|q> and now it is
L698[03:09:36] <greaser|q> or of course
L699[03:09:40] <greaser|q> function eval(s, ...) return load("return "..s)(...) end
L700[03:10:48] <greaser|q> hmm, i wonder how much effort it would take to recreate space station 13 in minecraft (it'll likely be based on donut)
L701[03:11:10] <greaser|q> just thinking you could totally make a cryptographic sequencer using an rfid/nfc mod
L702[03:12:46] <greaser|q> a card that has [==["..eval('component.redstone.setBundledOutput(sides.back,{15,15,15,15,15,15,15,15,15,15,15,15,15,15,15}).."]==] as its contents
L703[03:13:07] <greaser|q> ok, one more 15 in there
L704[03:17:21] <lperkins2> crap, I didn't realise load is a reserved name in lua, so I have a function called load in my global namespace... refactor time
L705[03:18:02] <Antheus> A paper just fell in my room
L706[03:18:04] <Antheus> I jumped
L707[03:18:17] <Izaya> a paper
L708[03:18:24] <Antheus> a paper
L709[03:18:29] <Antheus> letter sized if you were wondering
L710[03:18:45] <Antheus> \o/ waking up in 4 hours
L711[03:18:49] <Antheus> who needs sleep?
L712[03:18:56] <Izaya> mortals
L713[03:18:58] <Izaya> and the weak
L714[03:19:03] <Izaya> are you weak?
L715[03:19:34] <lperkins2> um, is there a way with load to specify the environment in which to run it?
L716[03:19:41] <Antheus> yes
L717[03:19:42] <Antheus> very weak
L718[03:21:37] <fingercomp> lperkins2: load(strToLoad, _, _, env)
L719[03:22:14] <lperkins2> ah, hm, now I just need access to the current continuation in the python vm...
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L721[03:23:54] <lperkins2> what are the two _?
L722[03:24:47] <Antheus> ~w modem
L723[03:24:47] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
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L725[03:25:01] <fingercomp> `source` and `mode` arguments
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L727[03:25:07] <Totoro> o/
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L729[03:25:46] <greaser|q> source can just be "<eval>", mode should be "t"
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L731[03:26:30] <lperkins2> thanks
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L740[04:04:33] <lperkins2> night all
L741[04:06:28] <snowden89> night
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L744[04:34:53] <KittyKath> Sometimes ... sometimes I think the FBI read '1984' not as a dystopian piece of fiction; but as a field manual. https://info.publicintelligence.net/FBI-PreventingExtremismSchools.pdf
L745[04:41:27] * Izaya looks for that picture
L746[04:42:41] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/8esbzhs.jpg
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L750[05:34:25] * Lizzy has just had an idea for a python daemon that sends system info like temps via IPv6 multicast groups to other devices on her vpn networks
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L755[06:39:45] zsh sets mode: +v on asie
L756[06:45:22] <Lizzy> %lookup janus.theender.net
L757[06:45:24] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for janus.theender.net 107.191.47.156 2001:19f0:6800:8161::1
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L762[07:24:28] <Kodos> Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a fluid dictionary, right?
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L769[07:31:25] <Gavle> GavleGavle
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L771[07:35:09] <Kodos> Lool
L772[07:40:21] <Gavle> wassup Kodos?
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L774[07:40:44] <LuMistry> Greetings
L775[07:40:46] <Kodos> Howdy
L776[07:40:56] <LuMistry> How are you Kodos?
L777[07:42:14] <Kodos> Tired
L778[07:42:36] <LuMistry> That's a shame
L779[07:42:43] <LuMistry> should you go to bed? idk what time it is for you
L780[07:45:22] <Kodos> Thinking about taking my wife to see Zootopia this weekend
L781[07:45:40] <LuMistry> Sounds like fun
L782[07:47:02] * Saphire haven't seen it yet
L783[07:47:27] <Izaya> finally got FF working
L784[07:47:34] <Izaya> if I spawn it from inside gfb
L785[07:47:36] <Izaya> gdb*
L786[07:47:41] <Izaya> and keep telling it to continue
L787[07:47:43] <Izaya> it'll run
L788[07:49:09] <Kodos> I'm kind of excited for Project AIX
L789[07:50:01] <Izaya> IBM's UNIX?
L790[07:50:20] <Kodos> No, the AI Minecraft Mod that Microsoft is working on
L791[07:51:44] <Izaya> oh
L792[07:51:51] <Izaya> GNU released a new AI thing
L793[07:55:20] <Gavle> Microsoft is working on a Minecraft Mod?
L794[07:55:22] <Gavle> :|
L795[07:55:52] <Gavle> They should focus on the Workbench API (or whatever the official Forge thing is called) and then do mods XD
L796[07:57:13] <Kodos> There are lots of things people should do, but don't
L797[08:03:08] <Gavle> Yep
L798[08:03:30] <MajGenRelativity> I should be working on my chat application, but I'm being lazy :P
L799[08:05:39] <Kodos> http://i.imgur.com/ri4nbJf.jpg
L800[08:07:04] <Roadcrosser> rip
L801[08:07:13] <Roadcrosser> oh, corded works.
L802[08:07:15] <Roadcrosser> yay.
L803[08:08:18] <Mimiru> I made it restart at midnight, seems to have stopped the derps
L804[08:08:54] <Roadcrosser> \o/
L805[08:10:44] <g> Roadcrosser, if you start that rip shit in here as well, you will actually get banned :P
L806[08:11:04] <g> most people in here don't have my patience. xD
L807[08:12:14] <MajGenRelativity> what?
L808[08:12:16] <Roadcrosser> wot
L809[08:12:29] <Roadcrosser> you know I've been doing that to copygirl for ages
L810[08:12:44] <Roadcrosser> ohi mgr o/
L811[08:12:55] <g> actually I forgot to ask
L812[08:13:03] <MajGenRelativity> hi Roadcrosser
L813[08:13:13] <g> is copyboy/girl actually trans, or this another one if he/her trolls?
L814[08:13:19] <g> of his/her*
L815[08:13:23] <g> typing like that is hard :u
L816[08:13:32] <Roadcrosser> from what I can see, actually trans
L817[08:13:39] <g> okay, fair enough
L818[08:14:20] <Roadcrosser> copy even asked me to use female pronouns soooo
L819[08:15:02] <Lizzy> HAHAHA, I was going to buy The Division when i got my 970 but i just got an email saying it was bundled with the card!
L820[08:15:09] <Saphire> ...
L821[08:15:12] <Saphire> why
L822[08:15:17] <Lizzy> ?
L823[08:15:27] <Saphire> I heard it sucks
L824[08:15:48] * Saphire shrugs
L825[08:15:52] <g> by the way, have you guys used the storage drawers mod?
L826[08:15:57] <g> it's so good, so much nicer than barrels
L827[08:16:15] <Lizzy> meh, its comming free so i dont mind *the game that is, the card still cost me)
L828[08:21:04] * Saphire groans
L829[08:21:12] * Saphire slaps Kimiro|DreamerOfTheLongDream
L830[08:21:12] * EnderBot2 high-fives Saphire
L831[08:21:20] <Saphire> My nicklist Q_Q
L832[08:21:36] <Lizzy> ?
L833[08:21:57] <Inari> their nicklist probably sizes by the longest nick
L834[08:21:58] <Inari> :P
L835[08:22:03] <Saphire> Yup
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L838[08:25:28] <Inari> Saphire: see, my nicklist just does wth it wants
L839[08:25:30] <Inari> :
L840[08:25:30] <Inari> <
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L842[08:26:21] <MajGenRelativity>
L843[08:26:25] <MajGenRelativity> whoops
L844[08:27:15] <Lizzy> %logs
L845[08:27:27] <Lizzy> Mimiru, whsts the ogs linbk?
L846[08:27:33] <Lizzy> *whats the logs link?
L847[08:27:44] <Mimiru> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com
L848[08:27:51] <Lizzy> thanks <3
L849[08:28:07] <Mimiru> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/.getlatest.php for a .tgz of all of them
L850[08:28:23] <Lizzy> k
L851[08:31:24] <Kodos> Okay, TV time =D
L852[08:31:44] <Kodos> ~3 hours of television, 4x 45 min episodes
L853[08:35:57] <Gavle> Okay, programming time
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L855[08:39:58] <Kodos> Oh this oughta be good
L856[08:40:07] <Kodos> Apparently this is the Red Kryptonite episode of Supergirl =D
L857[08:47:56] <Cruor> Kodos: everything that isnt 22min episodes is deaaaath and destruuuuctio
L858[08:48:04] <Cruor> :I
L859[08:48:16] <Kodos> I watch a lot of crime drama series, so I'm used to the 42 min epis
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L861[08:51:51] <Gavle> so, I have a question.
L862[08:51:58] <Gavle> I have two rc programs that are enabled
L863[08:52:13] <Gavle> Is there a way to know, or make, in which order they load?
L864[08:52:17] <Gavle> on startup
L865[08:57:02] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L866[08:58:31] <Gavle> from what I can tell from 99_rc.lua in /boot, it just uses rc.allRunCommand('start')
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L868[08:58:55] <Gavle> Kodos, you're the one who suggested rc to MGR, I thought you knew more :P
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L870[08:59:29] <Gavle> ~w RC
L871[08:59:29] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:rc
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L873[09:00:22] <Gavle> well, that's no help
L874[09:02:42] <Gavle> http://pastebin.com/STnh0F4b
L875[09:02:58] <Gavle> That's the command rc.lua in /boot calls when it loads all the enabled programs
L876[09:05:21] <Gavle> the difficulty I have in analyzing it lies in the fact that I cannot seem to force the understanding of ipairs into my head
L877[09:05:49] <Kodos> Why not just run three separate ones with alphabetical names that print out numbers, and see which one loads first
L878[09:07:44] <Gavle> well, that's also valid
L879[09:09:49] <Gavle> it does appear to be alphabetical
L880[09:10:01] <Gavle> thank you Kodos
L881[09:14:37] <Kodos> Indeed
L882[09:14:49] <Kodos> Is that your pastebin? I wanna scavenge for code :3
L883[09:15:13] <Gavle> it's typed up directly from the rc library
L884[09:15:21] <Kodos> Right, but I mean that's your account, right
L885[09:15:32] <Kodos> Dun wanna steal code that isn't yours
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L887[09:16:19] <Gavle> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
L888[09:16:40] <Kodos> wat
L889[09:17:31] <Gavle> unfortunately, I cannot allow you to access that page
L890[09:17:44] <Gavle> It contains a wide variety of sensitive information
L891[09:17:50] <Kodos> Now you sound like MGR lol
L892[09:17:50] <Gavle> MajGenRelativity, become aware of this
L893[09:18:06] * MajGenRelativity runs in
L894[09:18:07] <MajGenRelativity> wassup
L895[09:18:14] <MajGenRelativity> Gavle, destroy them all
L896[09:18:21] <MajGenRelativity> I have anything important stored locally
L897[09:18:26] <Gavle> already done
L898[09:18:49] <Gavle> We appreciate your interest Kodos, but there are things you must not know
L899[09:19:02] <Gavle> at least without signing a few NDA's and becoming a citizen of the Global Empire
L900[09:19:20] <MajGenRelativity> GAVLE NO
L901[09:19:35] <MajGenRelativity> I DIDNT HAVE THE IMPORTANT ONE BACKUD UP
L902[09:19:44] <KittyKath> God you two are useless. *shakes head*
L903[09:20:08] <Kodos> Would it help that I archived the account before you wiped it?
L904[09:20:22] <Gavle> uh
L905[09:20:24] <Gavle> what?
L906[09:20:30] <Kodos> I have a thingy
L907[09:20:36] <Gavle> :|
L908[09:22:04] <KittyKath> Kodos: bytheby, if you paste something on pastebin you agree to license it under CC-BY-SA 3.0, so "steal" away.
L909[09:22:16] <Kodos> Yep, that's why I have the entire thing archived =D
L910[09:22:17] <MajGenRelativity> wait
L911[09:22:18] <MajGenRelativity> what
L912[09:22:35] <MajGenRelativity> GAVLE
L913[09:22:38] <MajGenRelativity> WE HEF PROBLEM
L914[09:22:43] <KittyKath> MGR, as I said: you two are useless. Don't upload sensitive stuff to pastebin. EVER
L915[09:22:45] <Gavle> I know, I just read the license
L916[09:23:06] <Kodos> Why the hell do I keep getting 'spankbang' from searching your guys' pastebin username
L917[09:23:06] <MajGenRelativity> We gotta switch to a different service
L918[09:23:16] <g> don't upload sensitive stuff anywhere regardless of the license ._.
L919[09:23:32] <KittyKath> g: Unless you can afford to enforce your rights. See SE>
L920[09:23:42] <Gavle> MGR: we have a potentially massive security breach
L921[09:23:54] <KittyKath> "Security breach" Awwwww cute
L922[09:23:59] <Gavle> Kodos, I call upon you to remove the image after returning the one pastebin I need
L923[09:24:07] <Kodos> Interestingly enough, Gavle's pastebin has tons of instances of the name MajjyMaj
L924[09:24:11] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L925[09:24:21] <Gavle> oh yeah
L926[09:24:31] <Gavle> that one time when I edited source code to obfuscate
L927[09:24:35] <g> KittyKath: eh, the damage will have been done by then :P
L928[09:24:53] <KittyKath> g: https://github.com/KeenSoftwareHouse/SpaceEngineers/ <- No? Greates PR I've seen in ages ;P
L929[09:25:13] <g> what pr?
L930[09:25:13] <g> lol
L931[09:25:39] <KittyKath> It's pretty awesome. They got people to work for them for free. xD
L932[09:25:42] <Gavle> MGR, I have a temporary solution worked out
L933[09:25:52] <g> oh, public relations
L934[09:25:54] <g> not pull request
L935[09:26:00] <Gavle> It's significantly more annoying though
L936[09:26:02] <KittyKath> Kodos: Mind slipping me the backup? :P
L937[09:26:10] <Michiyo> I'll take 2.. :P
L938[09:26:11] <KittyKath> g: They have 100 open ones of that sort ;xD
L939[09:26:13] <Gavle> Hey
L940[09:26:18] <g> yeah. :P
L941[09:26:26] <KittyKath> And 228 closed ones apparently
L942[09:26:36] <Gavle> Some of that information is proprietary property of (404: Agency Not Found)
L943[09:26:57] <Lizzy> Gavle, not once you uploaded it to Pastebin
L944[09:27:02] <KittyKath> Gavle: You licensed it under CC-BY-SA, I'll make sure to attribute it to you xD
L945[09:27:05] <Gavle> Well, I know that now
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L947[09:27:18] <g> Gavle, how about you go fix the stuff
L948[09:27:22] <g> instead of bitching about it on here
L949[09:27:36] <Gavle> I deleted all the pastes, but Kodos has a backup
L950[09:27:38] <g> that way you get a minimum of damage, and trolled less
L951[09:27:44] <g> what was it? passwods?
L952[09:27:47] <g> passwords*
L953[09:27:48] <Gavle> No
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L955[09:27:51] <Gavle> Source code
L956[09:27:55] <Kodos> Just their silly Minecraft code stuffs
L957[09:28:08] <g> oh, some mod?
L958[09:28:10] <KittyKath> g: It was their highly important source code that's worth millions of dollars :P
L959[09:28:11] <Kodos> OC
L960[09:28:16] <Gavle> g, no
L961[09:28:25] <g> well either way, binaries can be decompiled
L962[09:28:34] <g> there is no "I'll give you my program and not any of the source" these days
L963[09:28:47] <Gavle> It's small bits and pieces that may go into a program I'm writing for OpenComputers
L964[09:28:51] <Gavle> mostly a chat program
L965[09:28:52] <KittyKath> g: Lua source code. Not even a bin ;P
L966[09:29:01] <g> so what's the problem
L967[09:29:05] <g> it's just some lua oc thing
L968[09:29:11] <KittyKath> g: Someone might steal it!
L969[09:29:16] <g> who cares
L970[09:29:17] <g> lol
L971[09:29:20] <Michiyo> Oh the noes
L972[09:29:20] <Gavle> g, I care
L973[09:29:22] <g> why?
L974[09:29:24] <Michiyo> the
L975[09:29:26] <Michiyo> damn it
L976[09:29:33] <Gavle> It's property of the (404: Agency Not Found)
L977[09:29:49] <Michiyo> s/ the / teh /
L978[09:29:49] <MichiBot> <Gavle> It's property of teh (404: Agency Not Found)
L979[09:29:50] <g> of the what now?
L980[09:29:52] <Kodos> Do you ahve a copyright? Trademark?
L981[09:29:53] <Michiyo> damn it :p
L982[09:29:58] <Michiyo> Oh teh noes* :P
L983[09:30:08] <Gavle> g, the (404: Agency Not Found)
L984[09:30:15] <g> be more direct
L985[09:30:16] <Gavle> Kodos, I don't atm
L986[09:30:34] <Michiyo> g, it's an RP thing.. :P
L987[09:30:59] <g> ...so he should care even less about it?
L988[09:31:04] <Gavle> well, I've already failed as a director......
L989[09:31:07] <Gavle> but, I've learned
L990[09:31:25] <g> point is, it's just a small amount of lua code
L991[09:31:30] <KittyKath> g: But somebody might steal it! And say they wrote it! And get all the recognition for the revolutionary code I wronte!!
L992[09:31:34] <g> going into something probably 3 people will use
L993[09:31:44] <Gavle> KittyKath, it's not revolutionary
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L995[09:31:51] <Gavle> g, many more than 3 will use it
L996[09:31:55] <KittyKath> There has never been something like it before!
L997[09:32:07] <Gavle> KittyKath, it's not even originating from me
L998[09:32:10] <g> the point is, it's not worth worrying about
L999[09:32:15] <Lizzy> %g xkcd standards
L1000[09:32:17] <MichiBot> Lizzy: https://xkcd.com/927/ - xkcd: Standards: "Permanent link to this comic: http://xkcd.com/927/ Image URL (for hotlinking/
L1001[09:32:20] <Gavle> It was outsourced to another person and then handed in to answer a question
L1002[09:32:28] <g> it's not worth bitching about, it's not really worth discussing at all
L1003[09:32:34] <g> shut up and eat your choc-ice, basically
L1004[09:32:49] <KittyKath> Mostly the former one ;P
L1005[09:32:57] <Gavle> g, I've learned now, but I will not stop trying to repair the damage
L1006[09:33:04] <g> there is no damage to repair
L1007[09:33:09] <g> these people are trolling you, and you are baiting them
L1008[09:33:14] <Gavle> however, I have no need to keep discussing this here
L1009[09:33:19] <Gavle> g, yes, there is
L1010[09:33:27] <Gavle> however, this discussion is unnecessary
L1011[09:33:37] <g> you ain't selling it
L1012[09:33:38] <g> there is no damage.
L1013[09:33:39] <KittyKath> Gavle: Then ... stop participating?
L1014[09:33:55] <g> (and if you actually are selling it.. you're naiive)
L1015[09:34:00] <Kodos> Okay, move on guys
L1016[09:34:03] <g> gotcha
L1017[09:34:21] <KittyKath> g: Hey! THere are a lot of people that earn their wage selling source code :<
L1018[09:34:30] <g> selling lua snippets for OC?
L1019[09:34:30] <g> :P
L1020[09:34:37] <KittyKath> Totally
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L1022[09:34:56] <g> well shit, if it's that easy to scam people, I'm in the wrong industry
L1023[09:34:59] <g> brb printing money
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L1025[09:35:46] <Lizzy> Out of context log lines: [22:38:57] <Wobbo> Thanks, mine is wet and stuff
L1026[09:36:00] <Kodos> Where's that pastebin license you guys were talking about
L1027[09:36:06] <KittyKath> Lizzy: #ocnocontext
L1028[09:36:17] <KittyKath> Kodos: Bottom of every page <.<
L1029[09:37:22] <LuMistry> I'm glad I learned about this
L1030[09:37:33] <LuMistry> I also had sensitive source code on pastebin
L1031[09:37:36] <LuMistry> It's all deleted now
L1032[09:37:39] <KittyKath> Another one who thinks their code is important .-.
L1033[09:38:00] <Kodos> So basically I can use whatever I find?
L1034[09:38:03] <KittyKath> Yep
L1035[09:38:07] <Kodos> As long as I give credit
L1036[09:38:13] <KittyKath> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ terms
L1037[09:38:26] <Gavle> :|
L1038[09:38:31] <Lizzy> my stuff is all private/unlisted
L1039[09:38:36] <Kodos> Sweet
L1040[09:38:39] <KittyKath> My stuff is not on pastebin \o/
L1041[09:38:49] <Kodos> All my private shit is on my thumb drive
L1042[09:38:54] <Gavle> My stuff isn't on pastebin anymore
L1043[09:38:59] <Michiyo> Anything I don't want seen is on my gitlab :P
L1044[09:39:02] <Kodos> It was when I scraped it though
L1045[09:39:11] <Gavle> Yeah, well, it isn't anymore
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L1047[09:39:33] <Kodos> I'm so glad I got that lifetime PRO account with Pastebin =D
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L1049[09:39:39] <Lizzy> Kodos, same
L1050[09:39:41] <KittyKath> LuMistry: Apropos scraping. I'm sure there are backups of pastebin around :P
L1051[09:39:55] <LuMistry> Well
L1052[09:39:56] <Michiyo> I want a Pro account... but money
L1053[09:40:06] <Kodos> Mine was through a giveaway
L1054[09:40:07] <LuMistry> I'm an angry person now
L1055[09:40:21] <KittyKath> Gavle: bytheby licenses; GH gists: We claim no intellectual property rights over the material you provide to the Service. Your profile and materials uploaded remain yours. However, by setting your pages to be viewed publicly, you agree to allow others to view your Content. By setting your repositories to be viewed publicly, you agree to allow others to view and fork your repositories.
L1056[09:40:23] <Gavle> I'm with you LuMistry
L1057[09:40:47] <Lizzy> I got mine when they were offering the lifttime pro access on sale
L1058[09:40:53] <Gavle> KittyKath, thank you. Gists shall be investigated for suitability
L1059[09:40:54] <Kodos> Indeed
L1060[09:41:03] <KittyKath> LuMistry / Gavle. He who can read has an important leg up on life.
L1061[09:41:04] <Kodos> Gavle, is Pastebin the only account you and MGR share, or are there others?
L1062[09:41:33] <Gavle> why do you ask?
L1063[09:41:37] <Kodos> Just curious
L1064[09:42:19] <Gavle> we do not share IRC accounts, if that is what you're implying
L1065[09:42:32] <Lizzy> Are you sure about that?
L1066[09:42:35] <Kodos> I wasn't
L1067[09:43:07] <Gavle> Lizzy: what
L1068[09:43:13] <Gavle> Kodos, ok *shrugs*
L1069[09:43:15] <Lizzy> never mind
L1070[09:43:23] <Lizzy> i clicked the wrong chat window
L1071[09:47:24] <gamax92> KittyKath: oooh, pastebin license
L1072[09:49:06] <MajGenRelativity> someone gave me a simple cipher code months ago, and now I can't remember who to ask so they can explain how it works :(
L1073[09:49:16] <gamax92> MajGenRelativity: hi
L1074[09:49:26] <MajGenRelativity> hello gamax92
L1075[09:49:46] <MajGenRelativity> I believe Gavle may have a request pending for you, but idk
L1076[09:49:54] <gamax92> who?
L1077[09:50:39] <Gavle> me
L1078[09:52:20] <MajGenRelativity> gamax92, you there?
L1079[09:52:28] <gamax92> no
L1080[09:52:30] <MajGenRelativity> ok
L1081[09:57:17] <KittyKath> LuMistry: Did you know that Archive.org used to scrape & backup the entirety of pastebin? I didn't either until now :D
L1082[09:57:36] <LuMistry> :|
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L1084[09:57:46] <LuMistry> Why are you looking for pastebin backups?
L1085[09:57:51] <KittyKath> Because I can
L1086[10:00:47] <KittyKath> Also because *some* people need to learn that if they upload *anything* to the internet they have to assume it is completely public after that moment.
L1087[10:00:55] <Gavle> KittyKath, is it possible to read Gists from an OpenComputer
L1088[10:01:01] <KittyKath> Gavle: Yep
L1089[10:01:04] <Kodos> wget the raw link
L1090[10:01:16] <Gavle> I'll have to do some investigation then
L1091[10:01:21] <KittyKath> Kodos: Shhh, let them use their brains for once.
L1092[10:02:16] <Kodos> http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/withercrumbs
L1093[10:02:51] <Michiyo> Ha.. that's kinda neat
L1094[10:03:01] <Kodos> Urgh, I'm so hungry
L1095[10:03:08] <Kodos> Wife made mashed potatoes, and didn't make me anything to eat
L1096[10:03:15] <Kodos> So now I'm smelling mashed potatoes
L1097[10:03:39] <KittyKath> Kodos: It sounds like your wive is a bit bitchy. What did you do? :D
L1098[10:04:02] <Kodos> She's not bitchy, she's fine. I've done it to her
L1099[10:04:11] <Kodos> I just hate being hungry and smelling mashed potatoes is torture
L1100[10:06:34] <Michiyo> anyone know the new MC skin url?
L1101[10:06:45] <Kodos> Check with the skindex
L1102[10:07:04] <gamax92> I should get into theme editing, I like this custom theme, but it also has some poor color choices at times.
L1103[10:07:29] <Michiyo> found it.. http://skins.minecraft.net/MinecraftSkins/
L1104[10:07:32] <Michiyo> used to be on aws
L1105[10:09:11] <Michiyo> There.. had to fix a skin viewer panel on some forums I help with
L1106[10:09:19] <Michiyo> noticed it was pulling my old skin
L1107[10:10:27] <Gavle> MajGenRelativity, I'm working on a stopgap maneuver that should dramatically improve security going forward
L1108[10:10:44] <MajGenRelativity> Make it so, Number 1
L1109[10:10:51] <Kodos> Here's an idea for a stopgap maneuver that should dramatically improve security
L1110[10:10:55] <Kodos> Don't post your shit on public sites
L1111[10:11:05] <Gavle> That's one component of the plan
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L1118[10:45:28] <Kodos> What is Force Lasers
L1119[10:45:55] <MajGenRelativity> It's a mod I was working on months ago
L1120[10:46:03] <MajGenRelativity> Development is pretty much retired
L1121[10:46:19] <Kodos> Ah, derp, it says 2015, nvm
L1122[10:50:23] <Gavle> MajGenRelativity! WE ARE A GO FOR GISTS
L1123[10:50:42] <Gavle> I was successfully able to adapt existing code around it
L1124[10:50:49] <MajGenRelativity> eggsellent
L1125[10:50:54] <Kodos> You guys should like
L1126[10:51:01] <Kodos> Get a private IRC channel to talk about this stuff
L1127[10:51:08] <Kodos> Wouldn't want anyone stealing your secrets
L1128[10:51:43] <Gavle> I put the announcement here on purpose
L1129[10:51:57] <Gavle> I wouldn't share secrets through here
L1130[10:51:59] <Kodos> Yeah, but no one except you two care tho
L1131[10:52:05] <Kodos> So why not move it to another channel?
L1132[10:52:08] <Gavle> Ok, then I will shut up
L1133[10:56:20] <asie> Sangar: schematic-json should finally be introduced in BC 7.2.x
L1134[10:56:25] <asie> this time much better thanks to BlockState magic
L1135[10:59:46] <MajGenRelativity> I must go
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L1138[11:00:35] <Totoro> what is Compound Blocks for? multiblock screens?
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L1142[11:03:07] <Totoro> or something like server rack, with each side having different behavior
L1143[11:03:43] <Ajloveslily> (´･ω･`)
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L1149[11:08:55] <naosi> Uhmm...
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L1153[11:10:42] <gamax92> what.
L1154[11:12:06] <gamax92> I should get some jbweld
L1155[11:22:11] <Antheus> Hmm
L1156[11:22:20] <Antheus> When did Kenny have his meltdown and leave?
L1157[11:22:25] <Antheus> like, what month in 2014
L1158[11:23:01] <Michiyo> I've posted it before, but damned if I remember now
L1159[11:24:10] <Antheus> I know it was after may...
L1160[11:24:43] <Antheus> after aug...
L1161[11:24:59] <Kodos> %seen Kenny
L1162[11:25:01] <MichiBot> Kodos: Kenny has not been seen.
L1163[11:25:03] <g> What key is "+LMENU"?
L1164[11:25:05] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1165[11:25:06] <Kodos> Alt
L1166[11:25:08] <Kodos> Left Alt
L1167[11:25:08] <g> (as opposed to "LMENU")
L1168[11:25:17] <g> left alt does nothing
L1169[11:25:19] <g> which is why I ask
L1170[11:25:23] <Antheus> before aug 18th though
L1171[11:25:24] <Kodos> Screenshot of where it's mentioned?
L1172[11:25:45] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/March/java_2016-03-15_16-25-45.png
L1173[11:26:21] <Kodos> Are you running any keybind mods
L1174[11:26:24] <Kodos> NEK, etc
L1175[11:26:26] <Michiyo> Yeah Kenny left WAAAAY before I added the tracking to michiot
L1176[11:26:29] <g> yeah, not enough keys
L1177[11:26:30] <Michiyo> MichiBot*
L1178[11:26:36] <Kodos> It's likely messing with something
L1179[11:26:56] <g> But why is it +LMENU
L1180[11:26:58] <g> not LMENU
L1181[11:27:03] <g> the other key is LSHIFT
L1182[11:27:09] <g> and the controls options also says LMENU
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L1184[11:31:52] <Antheus> "[23:07:10] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: btw i used some of your stuff"
L1185[11:32:12] <Antheus> A phrase that will probally never be mentioned agin. (2014-7-15)
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L1187[11:35:46] <Ajloveslily> %quote add [23:07:10] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: btw i used some of your stuff
L1188[11:35:54] <Ajloveslily> or not
L1189[11:36:24] <Ajloveslily> Michiyo, pls
L1190[11:36:41] <Michiyo> addquote
L1191[11:36:53] <Michiyo> and drop the time... and the < and >
L1192[11:36:54] <Michiyo> :P
L1193[11:37:13] <Michiyo> %addquote gamax92 PotatoTrumpet: btw i used some of your stuff
L1194[11:37:13] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Quote added at id: 245932
L1195[11:37:17] <Michiyo> wtfhsiu;sdg
L1196[11:37:25] <g> wat
L1197[11:37:26] <Michiyo> %quote gamax92
L1198[11:37:26] <MichiBot> Quote #20: <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: btw i used some of your stuff
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L1200[11:37:41] <g> are you using auto_increment?
L1201[11:37:47] <g> 'cause the id isn't guaranteed to start at 1
L1202[11:37:49] <gamax92> Michiyo: You need to take a break at a spa
L1203[11:38:10] <Michiyo> g, yes.. but I'm not counting on it starting at one...
L1204[11:38:18] <Michiyo> I'm just grabbing the ID it used for the insert
L1205[11:38:24] <Ajloveslily> >id 245932
L1206[11:38:36] <g> I'm just wondering why you're surprised
L1207[11:38:38] <Michiyo> except the id was 20...
L1208[11:38:48] <Michiyo> Because the id it used is 20... not 245932
L1209[11:39:01] <Michiyo> "Quote #20"
L1210[11:39:14] <g> you use the same id for that? okay
L1211[11:41:47] <g> KittyKath: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/15/mozilla_to_release_first_version_of_servobased_browser_in_june/
L1212[11:42:03] <g> a browser in Rust?
L1213[11:42:10] <g> I guess it's just achieved mainstream relevancy
L1214[11:42:11] <g> :P
L1215[11:44:01] <KittyKath> "Release" in this context does not suggest a production-ready download, but rather an early preview.
L1216[11:44:29] <KittyKath> Also Rust is already relevant, it just has a hurtfully fast iteration cycle.
L1217[11:44:51] <g> it's relevant, I just haven't seen much widely-used software written with it yet
L1218[11:45:02] <g> given that this is going to be part of firefox, well.. :P
L1219[11:46:07] <KittyKath> Yeah, Oxidation will at some point be relevant, but that Browser most likely won't :P
L1220[11:46:16] <Kodos> I'm guessing we're not talking about Rust the game
L1221[11:46:25] <g> No, the language
L1222[11:46:25] <g> :P
L1223[11:46:27] <g> Screw garry.
L1224[11:50:50] <g> I wish there was a way to pipe stuff out of furnaces and stuff and still get the XP
L1225[11:52:24] <Nathan1852> %tell Sangar apparently only the ender io OC cable + facade didn't work out after all https://www.dropbox.com/s/gr5sz94i2pej7od/crash-2016-03-14_23.23.37-server.txt?dl=0
L1226[11:52:25] <MichiBot> Nathan1852: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1237[12:08:18] <Antheus|Away> 8+
L1238[12:08:58] <Ajloveslily> Antheus|Away, ?
L1239[12:09:18] <gamax92> 2=
L1240[12:10:16] <Ajloveslily> k
L1241[12:16:28] <gamax92> Ajloveslily: hello
L1242[12:16:38] <Ajloveslily> hi gamax92 ♥
L1243[12:17:29] <Mettaton_Fab> has anyone seen the Human?
L1244[12:19:10] <gamax92> Have you done anything productive in your life ever, instead of the constant undertale references?
L1245[12:19:46] <g> oh, that's another undertale reference
L1246[12:19:59] <g> you're like one of the obnoxious bronies, Mettaton_Fab
L1247[12:20:00] <gamax92> Like, do you do anything with OpenComputers, write programs, use programs, ... use the mod at all?
L1248[12:20:20] <g> as a previously obnoxious brony, I can speak from experience
L1249[12:20:21] <g> :P
L1250[12:21:23] <Michiyo> I thought he was looking for Human, not talked to him in ages... lol
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L1252[12:23:39] <Nathan1852> Aww, you can't give robots an hologram projector to use?
L1253[12:24:09] <Kodos> No, sadly
L1254[12:24:29] <gamax92> hmm ... I wonder if you could put a glasses projector in a robot (OpenGlasses)
L1255[12:25:26] <Nathan1852> Is it possible for robots to start computers?
L1256[12:26:59] <Kodos> You could do wakeOnRedstone for the computer
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L1258[12:27:48] <KittyKath> gamax92: I don't use the mod either. Or play minecraft for that matter. :P
L1259[12:27:50] <Nathan1852> that wont work if the robot should place the computer
L1260[12:28:41] <gamax92> KittyKath: I know but you've proven yourself to be productive in some form
L1261[12:30:25] <fingercomp> Nathan1852: `robot.use(nil, true)`
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L1263[12:30:38] <gamax92> .-. I wanted to ask someone something, but forgot.
L1264[12:30:41] <gamax92> hey lperkins2
L1265[12:31:00] <Nathan1852> fingercomp: That starts the computer?
L1266[12:31:07] <fingercomp> yes
L1267[12:31:16] <Nathan1852> Nice, thank you
L1268[12:32:10] <KittyKath> gamax92: Unless `productive` means `sitting in front of a monitor all day doing barely anything interrupted by breaks to bitch at people` I disagree
L1269[12:33:06] <gamax92> then you're not annoying like Mettaton_Fab is.
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L1272[12:37:18] <Mettaton_Fab> how do i use alot of 1........7.10 mods on a potato?
L1273[12:37:20] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L1274[12:37:38] <Mettaton_Fab> i hate dat keyburd.
L1275[12:38:38] <lperkins2> what's up gamax92?
L1276[12:41:42] <gamax92> lperkins2: what ever happened to that arch you were working on?
L1277[12:44:18] <lperkins2> sitting in my project stack,
L1278[12:44:28] <lperkins2> got busy doing paying work
L1279[12:44:50] <lperkins2> It works,
L1280[12:45:00] <lperkins2> but the input is via ps2 keyboard
L1281[12:45:04] <lperkins2> and output is via serial
L1282[12:45:28] <lperkins2> and init (systemd or any other) doesn't want to read from /dev/tty0 and write to /dev/ttyS0
L1283[12:45:56] <lperkins2> I probably need to write a serial input driver for it, so it can have a serial keyboard
L1284[12:46:01] <lperkins2> but I really don't want to...
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L1287[12:51:07] <gamax92> lperkins2: :c aww
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L1289[12:57:48] <lperkins2> anyway, I've got a paying project at the moment, then I need to get the deflector shield mod into a publishable state, then maybe I'll get back to the x86 arch
L1290[12:58:09] <gamax92> mmm
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L1293[13:03:06] <potato> Mettaton_Fab: 1. alot isn't a word
L1294[13:03:06] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L1295[13:03:18] <potato> 2.
L1296[13:03:20] <potato> you don't
L1297[13:03:50] <gamax92> Good to see you're still around, potato :P
L1298[13:04:06] <potato> gamax92: I'm Tiktalik :P
L1299[13:20:32] <Sangar> o/
L1300[13:21:25] <Mimiru> \o
L1301[13:22:18] <Sangar> Nathan1852, so that's just facaded conduit? mind sending me a screenshot of your setup just in case?
L1302[13:28:02] <Nathan1852> Sangar: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qzf5p2ojr4iqxiu/2016-03-15_19.25.08.png?dl=0 It is the block with only the facade and the network cable. Don't mind the cables around it, that is just my workaround
L1303[13:28:32] <g> Sangar: Any chance of a drone upgrade that allows you to display scrolling text over it?
L1304[13:28:39] <g> maybe allow use of the hologram projector as an upgrade?
L1305[13:28:58] <g> (would be nice for robots too)
L1306[13:29:52] * Nathan1852 just posted a suggestion for OC suggesting holograms for robots
L1307[13:29:54] <Nathan1852> lol
L1308[13:30:10] <Sangar> g, holo as upgrade is one of the oldest issues open :P i had two shots at it and stopped because it got to messy. soooo. maybe some day :P
L1309[13:30:18] <g> pls ;-;
L1310[13:30:28] <g> I want a follower drone that shouts at me
L1311[13:30:31] <g> in text
L1312[13:30:35] <Kodos> IIRC my workaround was using a motion sensor and a chat upgrade to have the drone talk
L1313[13:30:51] <g> that'd get spammy though
L1314[13:31:32] <Sangar> what're the dark big boxes? maybe i should throw in ae2 to test too :X
L1315[13:32:04] <g> the grey things? Just where there are multiple conduits in the same block
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L1318[13:32:17] <Nathan1852> The dark boxes are the facades, they are dark because I have a wrench in my hand so you can actually see the cables
L1319[13:33:10] <g> I think they did those boxes so they didn't have to render the cables connecting properly in complicated crossover situations :P
L1320[13:33:51] <Nathan1852> Oh, you mean the boxes where the cables connect?
L1321[13:34:04] <g> that's what I was assuming he meant anyway
L1322[13:34:47] <Sangar> yeah, those
L1323[13:34:50] <Sangar> brb food
L1324[13:35:52] <Nathan1852> Then g is pretty much right. They are just the connections of the cables
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L1327[13:40:35] <Nathan1852> How do I paste in OC again?
L1328[13:40:43] <g> shift+insert?
L1329[13:41:02] <Nathan1852> Yes, thank you
L1330[13:41:27] <Lizzy> Nathan1852, insert
L1331[13:42:38] * Nathan1852 thinks he tried to press delete three times
L1332[13:42:47] * Nathan1852 facepalms
L1333[13:42:50] <g> Is there a way for a server to add custom floppies to drops?
L1334[13:43:00] <g> or to include a lib on the openos floppy:?
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L1336[13:46:30] <g> hm, actually I can just leave an infinite dispenser with the floppy.. that'd work
L1337[13:46:59] <vifino> I'm back!
L1338[13:47:06] <vifino> LIZZY!!! ¿o/
L1339[13:47:09] <vifino> ′_′
L1340[13:47:20] * vifino facepalms
L1341[13:47:44] * vifino curls up into a ball on Lizzy's lap
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L1343[13:48:20] * Lizzy pets vifino
L1344[13:48:29] * vifino purrs
L1345[13:53:47] <vifino> This cheap Rii keyboard thing is surprisingly not shit.
L1346[13:58:16] <vifino> q_q no wonder keyboard input doesnt work anymore, i had the awesome menu open
L1347[14:04:57] <g> there's no docs for the transposer?
L1348[14:05:10] <Michiyo> I stole them
L1349[14:05:11] <Michiyo> sorry
L1350[14:05:21] <g> dammit michi
L1351[14:05:55] <Michiyo> 3.5 hours
L1352[14:05:58] <Michiyo> and I'm tired as hell
L1353[14:06:25] <Nathan1852> %tell Sangar I have to go, you might want to create a Git Issue and ping me in it (@Nathan1852) if you have any more questions. I'm happy to answer them, hopefully this bug can get fixed soon
L1354[14:06:27] <MichiBot> Nathan1852: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1355[14:08:13] <g> basically I'm going to try to write a program to give people their starting kits..
L1356[14:13:21] <Kodos> I kind of want to make a new mod, but I have no idea what to make
L1357[14:15:20] <g> make a python eeprom
L1358[14:15:21] <g> D:
L1359[14:15:35] <Kodos> If I was going to attempt an addon, I have better ideas
L1360[14:15:37] <g> ugh, fuck, afk
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L1362[14:20:33] <gamax92> I wonder if payonel completely ignore the link that I sent him
L1363[14:22:19] <vifino> gamax92! \o/
L1364[14:22:23] <vifino> How are you?
L1365[14:22:41] <gamax92> overcooked
L1366[14:27:19] <vifino> oh fuck me
L1367[14:27:28] <Lizzy> maybe later
L1368[14:27:31] <vifino> my leg hurts so fucking much .-.
L1369[14:28:18] <vifino> Lizzy: :3
L1370[14:28:40] <gamax92> What is vifino's favorite food
L1371[14:28:51] <Lizzy> my taco
L1372[14:29:18] <vifino> gamax92: Lizzy
L1373[14:29:20] <gamax92> What is vifino's second favorite food
L1374[14:29:30] <vifino> pizza
L1375[14:29:36] <gamax92> mmm :3
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L1377[14:32:48] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L1378[14:34:00] <gamax92> hi Vexatos
L1379[14:34:51] <Vexatos> hi gamax92
L1380[14:38:48] <Kasen> hi Kasen
L1381[14:39:18] <gamax92> hi Nesak
L1382[14:39:25] <gamax92> woops, that's not right
L1383[14:39:42] <Kasen> that took me longer than it should have - more coffee needed
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L1385[14:42:34] <Michiyo> Man it's nap time
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L1387[14:52:48] <gamax92> %tell Nachtara Question: What's the daily life of a wofl like?
L1388[14:52:50] <MichiBot> gamax92: Nachtara will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1389[14:54:32] <Michiyo> lol
L1390[15:01:02] <g> %tell Nachtara At what point did you realise you were a wofl, and not a snaek, rabbti or fxo?
L1391[15:01:04] <MichiBot> g: Nachtara will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1392[15:01:38] <Michiyo> lolol
L1393[15:02:06] <vifino> They'd probably taste good, if only the disgusting smell of typos wouldn't be there.
L1394[15:02:13] <vifino> taste, too
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L1396[15:04:56] <Vexatos> What's a wofl
L1397[15:04:58] <Vexatos> is it like
L1398[15:05:02] <Vexatos> a canine waffle?
L1399[15:05:24] <g> http://orig07.deviantart.net/ba99/f/2009/178/4/2/death_by_waffle_by_strikelist.jpg
L1400[15:06:05] <{}> kinky
L1401[15:06:18] * g slaps {}
L1402[15:06:18] * EnderBot2 chuckles
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L1406[15:19:38] <Michiyo> 2-14-4-29 to 2014-5-11 just added to the log archives thanks to Lizzy
L1407[15:20:12] <Michiyo> wow.. that was supposed to be 2014-04-30
L1408[15:20:18] <Michiyo> no idea how I fucked that up so bad
L1409[15:20:39] <alekso56> of this channel?
L1410[15:20:48] <Michiyo> yes
L1411[15:21:06] <Michiyo> logs start 2014-1-30
L1412[15:21:20] <Michiyo> Sadly I don't have anything older than that
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L1416[15:33:37] <Michiyo> 1/30 I was using Kenobi... I had the nick ObiWan :P
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L1418[15:38:41] * MajGenRelativity groans
L1419[15:38:45] <MajGenRelativity> such bad puns Michiyo
L1420[15:38:59] <MajGenRelativity> although, mine aren't much better XD
L1421[15:39:08] <gamax92> how is that a pun?
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L1423[15:39:49] <gamax92> there is no word play there, it's just a name
L1424[15:44:08] <Michiyo> gamax92, ObiWan@kenobi.pc-logix.com was my full host mask
L1425[15:44:39] <Kodos> lol
L1426[15:44:55] <Gavle> LOL
L1427[15:44:57] <gamax92> cool, that's still not a pun like MGR think's it is
L1428[15:45:17] <Gavle> I created a rudimentary Lua encryption system that turns a 100 byte file into a 2 KB file
L1429[15:45:35] <Kodos> That's retarded, why would someone want to increase their file size
L1430[15:45:38] <gamax92> sounds like shit
L1431[15:45:44] <Gavle> correction, 184 byte to 2800 byte
L1432[15:46:00] <gamax92> is it called bloatfile.lua?
L1433[15:46:07] <Gavle> no, but it should XD
L1434[15:46:21] <Gavle> however, the file gets destroyed almost immediately
L1435[15:46:28] <Izaya> Thought: by count of files, there's probably more bash on a linux box than compiled code
L1436[15:46:34] <Gavle> It's not to encrypt files for permanent storage in an OC HDD
L1437[15:48:16] <Gavle> http://pastebin.com/VvppbhfQ
L1438[15:48:20] <Gavle> here, have some code
L1439[15:48:44] <Kodos> Interesting that you have the same pastebin username as MGR's computer login
L1440[15:48:57] <Gavle> what?
L1441[15:49:20] <Kodos> Line 16 of https://pastebin.com/kCkYQKY1 I cloned that from MGR's pastebin
L1442[15:49:37] <Kodos> Scraping ftw =D
L1443[15:50:07] <Gavle> It's not my pastebin
L1444[15:50:15] <Gavle> also, I'm now salty
L1445[15:50:19] <Kodos> Sooo MGR has two pastebin accounts?
L1446[15:50:30] <Gavle> I specifically asked you to not share pastebin data
L1447[15:50:32] <Gavle> what?
L1448[15:50:33] <Gavle> no
L1449[15:50:39] <Kodos> Don't put shit on pastebin if you don't want it shared
L1450[15:50:58] <Kodos> Also, that's on MY pastebin
L1451[15:51:21] <Gavle> This is why I've adopted a dual-layer security solution
L1452[15:51:32] <Gavle> including bloatfile.lua :P
L1453[15:54:15] <vifino> As we all know, Gavle is MGR.
L1454[15:54:35] <Gavle> no
L1455[15:54:49] <Gavle> I use his pastebin so we can work on the same stuff
L1456[15:54:56] <vifino> Prove it.
L1457[15:55:02] <Gavle> And we're apparently not to bright when it comes to information security
L1458[15:55:08] <Gavle> vifino, what?
L1459[15:55:20] <Kodos> When MGR goes offline, your bouncer swaps you to Away
L1460[15:55:25] <Kodos> When he comes online, you do too
L1461[15:55:31] <vifino> ^
L1462[15:55:36] <Gavle> that is true
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L1464[15:58:34] <MajGenRelativity> well, I'm not Gavle, and I'm going to go
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L1466[15:58:43] <Kodos> Wait for itttt
L1467[15:58:53] <Gavle> for what?
L1468[15:59:06] <Kodos> Well of course you aren't going to go offline now that we've pointed it out
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L1470[16:00:32] <Gavle> eh
L1471[16:00:35] <Gavle> I'm going to go too
L1472[16:00:52] <Gavle> bloatfile.lua now needs a counterpart to unbloat
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L1474[16:05:58] <KittyKath> Kodos: Actually encryption increases size in the most cases. For one you have to pad to the nearest block size (in case of block ciphers) but you also have to store additional metadata and maybe signatures too. (Doesn't apply in this case of course but just saying)
L1475[16:06:28] <Kodos> Even still, increasing file size to that scale for the sake of obfuscation is absurd
L1476[16:07:19] <g> http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/03/15/android-n-name-nows-your-chance-to-vote/
L1477[16:07:28] <g> I had a feeling nougat would be one of them..
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L1480[16:09:53] <KittyKath> Kodos: Of course. On a completely unrelated notice I just today got a chance to dabble with a windows virus which was several kilobytes of obfuscated JS basically running "CreateObject WScript.Shell ... something.exe .. http://somelinksomelink run something.exe"
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L1482[16:13:05] <vifino> oh wow, these micro usb cables are awesome
L1483[16:13:14] <vifino> fully black and aluminium, braided cable
L1484[16:13:15] <vifino> :D
L1485[16:13:20] <vifino> I luvem
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L1487[16:15:44] <Kodos> Wheee
L1488[16:17:45] <Mimiru> Indeed.
L1489[16:18:19] <Elizabeth> :
L1490[16:18:28] <Elizabeth> numlock ffs
L1491[16:19:03] <Mimiru> Woo
L1492[16:20:49] <Mimiru> 1:10... q_q
L1493[16:21:01] <Michiyo> day needs to be over already
L1494[16:25:15] <greaser|q> ...yeah that sums up my yesterday
L1495[16:25:30] <greaser|q> but thankfully it is over, and now i have today
L1496[16:25:33] <Michiyo> 1:05 I swear that took 30 minutes
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L1499[16:36:40] <CompanionCube> KittyKath, poking malware can be...interesting
L1500[16:36:55] <CompanionCube> I think mine ended up pointing to Locky.
L1501[16:41:07] <KittyKath> CompanionCube: It was only the code that downloads the actual payload malware. I haven't poked at the latter yet.
L1502[16:41:34] <CompanionCube> I just grabbed the binary and tossed it to virustotal
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L1508[17:33:01] <Kodos> kPa converts to PSI, right?
L1509[17:35:08] <vifino> Kodos: http://www.csgnetwork.com/presskpapsicvt.html
L1510[17:35:31] <Kodos> I already googled it. TIL what kPa stands for
L1511[17:35:43] <{}> stands for what
L1512[17:35:50] <KittyKath> kilopascal
L1513[17:35:53] <vifino> Kilo pascal
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L1515[17:36:11] <{}> Killer Passport
L1516[17:36:12] <{}> Got it
L1517[17:36:21] <KittyKath> 1 psi == 6.947573 kpa
L1518[17:36:27] * vifino burns {}
L1519[17:36:41] <{}> vifino: Like the jews during WW5
L1520[17:36:49] <{}> Wait, I can't tell you people about it
L1521[17:36:50] <vifino> Exactly.
L1522[17:36:50] <{}> SHIT
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L1524[17:37:01] <Temia> 'kay
L1525[17:37:09] <{}> (Hopefully they take that as a joke ^^;)
L1526[17:37:22] <{}> (Totally isn't a time traveler or anything)
L1527[17:37:22] <vifino> What joke?
L1528[17:37:26] <{}> SHIT
L1529[17:37:29] <vifino> Temiamoo!
L1530[17:37:31] * vifino pets Temia
L1531[17:37:39] * Temia flops on vifino and dozes. z.z
L1532[17:37:46] * gamax92 puts blanket over Temia
L1533[17:37:56] * {} Android 6.0 Doze Mode on vifino
L1534[17:39:52] * vifino picks up Temia and Lizzy, carries Lizzy to bed and sits back where he sat before, putting Temia where she was
L1535[17:40:23] <vifino> {}: onli cuz u dunt haf M
L1536[17:40:29] <vifino> jelii bruh
L1537[17:40:51] <{}> !kick vifino Fuck you
L1538[17:40:57] <{}> GOD DAMMIT ZSH
L1539[17:41:01] <{}> LET ME ANGER
L1540[17:41:04] <vifino> :3
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L1542[17:47:09] <vifino> I'm gonna join Lizzy and finally end the day. Temia, you need to decide where you want to go, after all I'mma go to bed.
L1543[17:47:20] * vifino places Temia besides him and goes to bed
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L1550[18:13:40] <Mimiru> I guess I need to fix OFM 1.7...
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L1552[18:19:59] <Mimiru> Or.. not I can't reproduce the issue
L1553[18:19:59] <Mimiru> yay
L1554[18:20:52] <gamax92> Steam thinks I have NO CONNECTION
L1555[18:21:01] <gamax92> Steam is stupid.
L1556[18:21:20] <g> it says the servers are down for maintainance here
L1557[18:21:22] <Mimiru> What gamax92 I can't see what you're saying... do you have connection?
L1558[18:21:51] <gamax92> g: ahh ...
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L1560[18:26:17] <Mimiru> the GH issue has "java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: unexpected url: " "Unexpected URL" the fucking method it's bitching about? Request request = new Request.Builder().url(streamURL).build();
L1561[18:26:27] <Mimiru> HOW DARE I SEND A URL INTO A .URL METHOD!?
L1562[18:26:34] <Mimiru> But it works fine for me :P
L1563[18:28:12] <Mimiru> I do however get [B cannot be cast to java.lang.String"
L1564[18:28:19] <Mimiru> when trying to run setURL...
L1565[18:28:20] <Mimiru> wtf
L1566[18:29:46] <Mimiru> Oh fucking hell
L1567[18:29:52] <Mimiru> how have I not noticed THIS?!
L1568[18:30:05] <Mimiru> gamax92, could I request some input?
L1569[18:32:01] <Mimiru> https://git.io/vaufi I have an Object[] for args for OC/CC compat
L1570[18:32:42] <Mimiru> but if I try to args[1].toString I get [B@####### and just trying to do (String) args[1] tells me that [B can't be cast to String
L1571[18:33:03] <Mimiru> errr args[0]
L1572[18:33:04] <Mimiru> not 1..
L1573[18:34:00] <gamax92> hmm?
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L1575[18:36:21] <Mimiru> I covered it pretty well there, any idea on what I'm doing wrong?
L1576[18:36:48] <gamax92> is it the "streamURL = (String) args[0];"
L1577[18:37:16] * gamax92 checks something
L1578[18:37:51] <Mimiru> Yes, I've tried both (String) args[0] which says [B can't be cast to String and args[0].toString() which gives me [B@########
L1579[18:38:27] <gamax92> I ... have not a clue wtf [B is.
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L1581[18:38:46] <gamax92> Mimiru: What happens if you do System.out.println(args[0].class.getSimpleName());
L1582[18:39:06] <gamax92> or is it .getClass(), I forget
L1583[18:39:10] <Mimiru> Syntax error on token "class", Identifier expected
L1584[18:39:21] <Mimiru> getClass cannot be resolved or is not a field
L1585[18:39:27] <gamax92> bah sorry
L1586[18:39:31] <gamax92> I don't know .-.
L1587[18:39:47] <Mimiru> it worked when I typed it out by hand.. odd
L1588[18:39:55] <Mimiru> one minute gotta restart Mc for changes in this crap to work
L1589[18:40:02] <gamax92> I don't even have a JDK installed yet
L1590[18:40:45] <Mimiru> gamax92, it's a byte[]
L1591[18:40:58] <gamax92> ahh, well that'd be why :3
L1592[18:42:00] <gamax92> iirc it's something like: String streamURL = new String(args[0], "UTF-8");
L1593[18:42:09] <Mimiru> Yeah, that's what I'm trying now
L1594[18:42:12] <Mimiru> Thanks gamax92
L1595[18:42:47] <Mimiru> Yep, worked perfectly
L1596[18:42:56] <Mimiru> Wonder why the other conversions work
L1597[18:43:08] <Mimiru> Oh
L1598[18:43:09] <Mimiru> it doesn't
L1599[18:43:09] <Mimiru> wtf
L1600[18:43:17] <Mimiru> I swear I tested this shit
L1601[18:43:40] <Stary2001> :D
L1602[18:43:48] <Mimiru> world.provider.dimensionId; is somehow null randomly
L1603[18:43:48] <Mimiru> q_q
L1604[18:43:53] <Mimiru> o/ Stary2001
L1605[18:43:59] <Stary2001> o/
L1606[18:45:14] <Mimiru> Even better... world is null
L1607[18:45:16] <Mimiru> how?
L1608[18:47:50] <Mimiru> wow... that's a really good station for house music
L1609[18:47:52] <Mimiru> I can dig it
L1610[18:49:21] <Mimiru> Oh... it's null on the server
L1611[18:53:41] <Kodos> https://youtu.be/VGQZItOMz6k
L1612[18:53:42] <MichiBot> Tally Hall - Good Day | length: 3m 24s | Likes: 3385 Dislikes: 36 Views: 380605 | by tallyhall
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L1617[19:48:42] <Kodos> Looks like someone grouped 'Kenny', wonder if it's him on an alt
L1618[19:56:19] <Mimiru> Kodos, I doubt it
L1619[19:56:23] <Mimiru> wrong state
L1620[19:56:29] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1621[19:56:38] <Kodos> It's been a long time, maybe he moved
L1622[19:56:48] <Mimiru> He hasn't... I'm not going into detail of how I know :P
L1623[19:56:54] <Kodos> Lol fair enough
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L1625[19:59:08] <Kodos> Oh thank fuck, my wife is running the air conditioner
L1626[19:59:11] <Kodos> I sleep 100x better with it on
L1627[20:03:49] <Kodos> Anyone in need of random audio assets: http://www.tomitobu.com/2016/03/16gb-sonniss-gdc-2016-10gb-sonniss-gdc.html
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L1632[20:08:15] <Kane_Hart> hey :P
L1633[20:08:35] <Kane_Hart> does infinity have anything to grab chat via CC I know it's cc but the idea also is OC lol
L1634[20:09:00] <Kane_Hart> I wanted to link my infinity chat via cc to a page or something then with OC have it connected to that lol
L1635[20:09:08] <Kane_Hart> display it on my other server lol
L1636[20:09:56] <Kodos> Computronics has the chat box
L1637[20:11:29] <Kane_Hart> sadly don't think that is included
L1638[20:11:39] <Kane_Hart> The pain of using someone else pack lol
L1639[20:11:54] <Kane_Hart> I'm making my own packs now for the future on curse but yeah
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L1641[20:15:41] <lperkins2> anybody interested in giving feedback on a mod?
L1642[20:16:03] <Antheus> no
L1643[20:16:16] <Antheus> So uh
L1644[20:16:52] <Antheus> the recommended point for installing user-created libs is /usr/lib, correct?
L1645[20:17:01] <lperkins2> are we talking OC?
L1646[20:17:03] <lperkins2> if so, yes
L1647[20:17:17] <Antheus> lperkins2, you have a mod
L1648[20:17:25] <lperkins2> I have several mods,
L1649[20:17:40] <lperkins2> I'm getting ready to publish one, so I'm seeking feedback for it.
L1650[20:18:00] <lperkins2> A replacement for MFFS
L1651[20:18:49] <greaser|q> if you're making an MFFS replacement for 1.7.10 or 1.8.9 or whatever have all my yes
L1652[20:19:07] <greaser|q> i have a 1.7.10 setup and a 1.8.9 setup... and another 1.7.10 setup for testing some of my OC mod mods
L1653[20:19:16] <lperkins2> 1.7.10, probably will compile for 1.8, but I've not moved any of my compiling to it
L1654[20:19:47] <lperkins2> it's similar to MFFS, but both simpler and more nuanced
L1655[20:20:18] <lperkins2> http://alestan.publicvm.com/bin/DeflectorShield--1.7.10-0.1.0.jar
L1656[20:20:18] <Kodos> lperkins2, Which MFFS?
L1657[20:20:52] <lperkins2> the only modular forcefield system I looked at was the broken 1.7.10 version
L1658[20:21:05] <Kodos> So Calc's
L1659[20:21:15] <Kodos> There's also the old IC2 addon one
L1660[20:22:40] <Kodos> Might want to fix the mod name
L1661[20:22:44] <Kane_Hart> so
L1662[20:22:47] <Kodos> Came up for me as "OpenComputers x86"
L1663[20:22:50] <Kane_Hart> rf tools and immibis
L1664[20:22:56] <Kane_Hart> not a modual forcefield mod :P
L1665[20:23:10] <Kane_Hart> Advanced Repulsion Systems
L1666[20:23:48] <Kane_Hart> Advanced Repulsion Systems is MFFS rewritten and RF Tools has it's own one with similar features
L1667[20:24:42] <Kodos> No textures, no creative tab
L1668[20:26:05] <lperkins2> oh, oops, copied the mod folder from a different one of my mods and forgot to edit the info file
L1669[20:26:19] <lperkins2> and yeah, textures is the reason it's not published yet,
L1670[20:26:36] <lperkins2> hadn't even thought about a creative tab since I use nei for all that, but I'll add it to the list
L1671[20:26:54] <Kodos> How do I set up a field? i have a fuckton of cooling thingers in it
L1672[20:27:09] <lperkins2> connect an OC computer to it
L1673[20:27:50] <lperkins2> you specify where to put the field in spherical polar coords and tell it to start
L1674[20:27:57] <lperkins2> also, it needs RF input
L1675[20:28:35] <Kodos> You say it's simpler and more nuanced, but you use words like spherical polar coordinates
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L1678[20:28:55] <Kodos> Maybe include a manual with it, or at least example programs
L1679[20:29:04] <Kodos> with commented code
L1680[20:29:21] <Kane_Hart> and
L1681[20:29:23] <lperkins2> I have a controller program for iot
L1682[20:29:30] <Kane_Hart> force it on start of the game with no config to disable it
L1683[20:30:18] <lperkins2> I'll upload the programs for it to OPPM
L1684[20:30:31] <lperkins2> probably add a loot disk too if I can figure it out
L1685[20:30:49] <Kodos> Dunno
L1686[20:30:54] <Kodos> I gotta run though, it's storming here
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L1688[20:36:03] <lperkins2> hm, how do I add a creative tab?
L1689[20:38:12] <lperkins2> ah, called CreativeTabs not CreativeTa b
L1690[20:39:00] <Mimiru> lperkins2, I do it this way: https://git.io/vauce https://git.io/vaucJ then just do Bleh.setCreativeTab(CreativeTab)
L1691[20:41:50] <lperkins2> looks like you implement your own CreativeTab class
L1692[20:42:17] <lperkins2> ah, but it's trivial
L1693[20:49:12] <lperkins2> okay, fixed, built, and uploaded
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L1699[21:54:47] <gamax92> ~takes cookies out of trash~ ~gifts to someone~ "Wow, Thanks!"
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L1702[22:23:29] <gamax92> payonel!
L1703[22:24:27] <payonel> gamax92: i know!
L1704[22:24:38] <payonel> the stupid machine had shutoff (Crashed)
L1705[22:24:43] <Mimiru> Woah
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L1707[22:24:47] <payonel> i had to have a real person go and turn it back on
L1708[22:24:48] <Mimiru> wb
L1709[22:25:08] <payonel> it's an old laptop :)
L1710[22:25:37] <payonel> and about 4 hours driving distance from me
L1711[22:31:34] <payonel> gamax92: so about the uptime/clock incorrectness of time - time in real shell gives you time your process ran on the cpu, sounds like i won't be able to show that value. might as well only show elapsed time
L1712[22:31:44] <payonel> am i understanding the problem correctly?
L1713[22:34:47] <gamax92> payonel: did you see the gist?
L1714[22:35:00] <Mimiru> son of a bitch, fucking ogg playback is broken in normal client
L1715[22:35:04] <Mimiru> but works fine in dev
L1716[22:35:09] <Mimiru> makes debugging fun
L1717[22:35:57] <gamax92> Mimiru: my mind is blank, what's the name of the service Corded runs on?
L1718[22:36:04] <payonel> discorded
L1719[22:36:06] <payonel> discord
L1720[22:36:08] <Mimiru> Discord
L1721[22:36:13] <gamax92> right thank you
L1722[22:36:38] <gamax92> payonel: https://gist.github.com/gamax92/c75c45be58828ff81fb3
L1723[22:37:42] <payonel> oh ha, so .. .ok
L1724[22:37:56] <payonel> i read that link the other day when you gave it -- i'll blame it on my preoccupation, i was busy at the time
L1725[22:38:23] <payonel> but it looked so good the way you wrote it, i didn't realize it was a gist and not a link to existing code :)
L1726[22:38:46] <gamax92> heh
L1727[22:38:59] <payonel> but yes, thank you. i see what i did wrong and i really like the way you wrote it
L1728[22:39:18] * payonel is afk for a bit
L1729[22:39:28] <Mimiru> And they were never seen again....
L1730[22:40:06] <Mimiru> Ok.. what the actual fuck
L1731[22:40:15] <Mimiru> I KNOW ogg worked on this build
L1732[22:44:10] <Mimiru> It's gotta be something in the JVM...
L1733[22:44:22] <Mimiru> java.io.IOException: mark/reset not supported
L1734[23:10:38] <Mimiru> yay fixed ogg playing
L1735[23:22:57] <Antheus> ~w modem
L1736[23:22:57] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
L1737[23:26:06] <Antheus> ~w gpu
L1738[23:26:06] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
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L1740[23:28:47] <Antheus> how to you set the cursor position?
L1741[23:30:31] <gamax92> term.setCursor
L1742[23:32:02] <v^> gamax92, there are 20 letters in the alphabet right
L1743[23:32:26] <Antheus> 26
L1744[23:32:38] <v^> oh i forgot u r a q t
L1745[23:32:57] <Antheus> I C what you did there
L1746[23:32:58] <gamax92> that's only 5 letters, you're missing one more.
L1747[23:32:58] <lperkins2> which alphabet?
L1748[23:33:09] <v^> gamax92, dont worry you will get the d later ;)
L1749[23:33:16] <Antheus> #REKT
L1750[23:33:37] * Izaya pokes vifino
L1751[23:33:39] <v^> gf isnt online so i had to try it lol
L1752[23:33:59] <Izaya> Ohok detached
L1753[23:34:20] <gamax92> fak. I fell right into v^'s trap.
L1754[23:35:09] <Mimiru> Haaaa
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L1756[23:36:02] <Mimiru> Naomi appreciated it... lol
L1757[23:36:14] <Antheus> ;)
L1758[23:38:23] <Mimiru> yay I think I fixed all of the valid OpenFM issues
L1759[23:40:38] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/ideapad-s10e.txt
L1760[23:41:00] <v^> gamax92, gf fell for trap too x3
L1761[23:42:23] <Izaya> v^: clever ... trap
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L1763[23:43:45] <Antheus> als;djfasl;kdfja
L1764[23:43:53] <Antheus> knock out one bug, 200 more show up
L1765[23:44:15] <Izaya> Yup
L1766[23:44:20] <Antheus> #HowComplicatedCouldACleanedUpVersionOfSuPeRMiNoR2'sDNSBe?
L1767[23:44:49] <Izaya> n+1 complications
L1768[23:44:58] <Antheus> Solve a bug in the server program, find a bug in the API
L1769[23:47:32] <Antheus> ~w fs
L1770[23:47:33] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
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L1774[23:48:43] <Antheus> ~w io
L1775[23:48:43] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-io
L1776[23:56:15] <Antheus> safdasf
L1777[23:56:37] <Antheus> I can't figure out why my program is skipping over two entire if statements
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