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L1[00:00:00] <astro73> it's only got GET and POST with no header control
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L3[00:00:08] <gamax92> ahh that ...
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L6[00:00:17] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: If you write everything yourself because you don't trust other people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here
L7[00:00:20] <Izaya> astro73: so get working on it? :P
L8[00:00:26] <sugoi> computer.pushSignal("test",{1}) print(event.pull())
L9[00:00:33] <gamax92> astro73: you can use the raw sockets to do customized stuff, though I know that's not entirely convient
L10[00:00:42] <sugoi> it should show the table param
L11[00:00:45] <sugoi> in 1.6 i'm seeing nil
L12[00:01:14] <astro73> that's what i figured I'd end up doing. I'm just annoyed because both OC and CC have half an HTTP API
L13[00:01:26] <astro73> so neither can make full use of eg CouchDB
L14[00:01:28] <gamax92> well CC has the custom headers atleast :P
L15[00:01:46] <Izaya> OC has proper TCP so \o/
L16[00:01:50] <gamax92> that
L17[00:01:55] <Izaya> hrm
L18[00:02:07] <Izaya> is there any way I can force a computer to identify using a TCP socket?
L19[00:02:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Identify in what context?
L20[00:02:27] <gamax92> sugoi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FArtWESyifI
L21[00:02:27] <MichiBot> gamax92: OpenComputers - Debugging Strip | length: 29s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 4 | by gamax92
L22[00:02:47] * sugoi watches
L23[00:03:54] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty: well a network card has a sending UUID
L24[00:04:45] <astro73> izaya: TCP doesn't have any baked-in identifiers other than IP
L25[00:04:48] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: huh, thanks for linking that to me
L26[00:05:11] <Izaya> Mmm
L27[00:05:14] <Izaya> oh well
L28[00:05:33] <astro73> if you want to send an identifier, you're going to have to do it in the protocol
L29[00:05:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: You can make a computer send an identifier that's provable to be correct, but as astro73 said TCP has nothing built in.
L30[00:06:01] <astro73> what are you talking to?
L31[00:06:12] <DeanIsaKitty> And unless you implement IPSec you won't find anything lower that identifies either :P
L32[00:06:29] <Izaya> Writing a router of sorts
L33[00:06:56] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: There's also the polar opposite where you don't trust in-house code at all, but I don't exactly remeber what that one was called.
L34[00:07:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: A router over TCP?
L35[00:07:26] <Izaya> yes
L36[00:07:34] <Izaya> to route messages between OC computers
L37[00:07:40] <Izaya> I can alternatively use IRC
L38[00:07:50] <astro73> so you want an OC VPN
L39[00:07:54] <Izaya> depending on how insane I want to be
L40[00:08:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Uh well a VPN would be more than doable. It would be slow af but doable.
L41[00:08:16] <Izaya> What level card is an internet card?
L42[00:08:17] <astro73> are you looking to route messages or sockets?
L43[00:08:53] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: is it bad if I'm patching and rebuilding stuff to remove warning messages?
L44[00:09:08] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Depends what kind of warning messages.
L45[00:09:44] <gamax92> so, there's a bunch of accessibility stuff under at-spi, and if at-spi2-core is running the computer hangs on logout/shutdown/reboot/whatever
L46[00:09:45] <astro73> (oh, that reminds me, i need to send a pull request to print3d-examples; one of the models has a syntax error)
L47[00:09:50] <sugoi> gamax92: ok regardless of cpu arch :) pushSignal appears to not be pushing tables
L48[00:09:55] <sugoi> i checked 1.5 as well
L49[00:10:00] <sugoi> weird, the wiki says it should
L50[00:10:06] <sugoi> ocemu pushes tables
L51[00:10:15] <sugoi> but i get nil, 1.5 and 1.6
L52[00:10:19] <gamax92> So I made a fake package that claims to provide at-spi2-core, but really is just an empty package
L53[00:10:34] <gamax92> and then libatspi throws a warning when it's not able to talk to at-spi2-core, so I patched that out
L54[00:10:38] <astro73> izaya: What is the application of your little project?
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L56[00:10:48] <gamax92> sugoi: ocemu isn't perfect, but thanks for telling me that
L57[00:11:16] <sugoi> oh i was wrong
L58[00:11:19] <gamax92> :|
L59[00:11:21] <sugoi> i didn't finish reading the whole line
L60[00:11:23] <sugoi> in the api page
L61[00:11:29] <sugoi> tables and functions are not supported.
L62[00:11:30] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi: Note that the types supported as signal parameters are limited to the basic types nil, boolean, number and string, tables and functions are not supported.
L63[00:11:36] <sugoi> ^
L64[00:11:43] <sugoi> yeah, reading i good at...
L65[00:11:49] <sugoi> /s
L66[00:11:57] <sugoi> i should have finished reading that last sentence :)
L67[00:11:59] <astro73> if you're just looking to foward messages, you could use one of the existing message queue protocols
L68[00:12:06] <gamax92> sugoi: wyh nto atmtpet raignde tish?
L69[00:12:09] <astro73> ampq, mqtt, etc
L70[00:12:22] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Well, if you don't need the part of at-spi that relies on at-spi2-core then you're perfectly fine.
L71[00:12:53] <sugoi> :)
L72[00:13:04] <sugoi> gamax92: so yeah, can't (shouldn't be able to) push tables :(
L73[00:13:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Serialize table? :P
L74[00:13:36] <gamax92> bleh I go to bed soon.
L75[00:13:52] <sugoi> DeanIsaKitty: i dont need to push tables
L76[00:14:05] <sugoi> i just had relied on it in ocemu -- not thinking of checking that for real support
L77[00:14:19] <sugoi> i'm just pushing things like components
L78[00:14:26] <sugoi> i can push addresses just as well
L79[00:14:36] <sugoi> BTW
L80[00:14:41] * sugoi got a job offer
L81[00:14:47] <gamax92> :D
L82[00:14:58] <DeanIsaKitty> awww :3
L83[00:15:01] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles sugoi
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L85[00:15:16] <sugoi> aww :)
L86[00:15:37] <sugoi> i was interviewing a ton over the last few weeks
L87[00:16:20] <sugoi> i feel very blessed, i got the job i was hoping for
L88[00:17:42] <Izaya> thank the random number gods
L89[00:17:46] <sugoi> haha
L90[00:18:17] <astro73> oh, that's my other whine: pretty serialization is broken and i didn't see it documented
L91[00:18:30] <sugoi> astro73: how so?
L92[00:18:58] <astro73> in my case, it went about 8 lines and then stopped with a "..."
L93[00:19:06] <sugoi> aahhhh...........
L94[00:19:11] <astro73> as if pretty printing only meant "print to screen"
L95[00:19:12] <sugoi> i'll get that switched
L96[00:19:19] <sugoi> :/
L97[00:19:26] <sugoi> i didn't get feedback on that
L98[00:19:30] <sugoi> i forgot to revert
L99[00:19:35] <sugoi> but, here's feedback
L100[00:19:38] <sugoi> :)
L101[00:19:50] <DeanIsaKitty> I need to not forget that sugoi is the local OpenOS expert <.<
L102[00:19:52] <astro73> well, it makes total sense in the lua shell
L103[00:20:13] <sugoi> astro73: yeah...and most of the time for the work i was doing, big was better
L104[00:20:24] <sugoi> sorry, i'll make note of that now
L105[00:20:29] <astro73> but if you're writing out a file that you expect to read it in again, it's broken
L106[00:20:39] <sugoi> well you could use more
L107[00:20:57] <gamax92> sugoi has been working with a lot of OpenOS
L108[00:21:00] <astro73> (and you'd use pretty in such a case if you think a human will ever edit it)
L109[00:21:11] <gamax92> and would make memory optimizers proud
L110[00:21:17] <sugoi> i.e. :D
L111[00:21:20] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: I know :P
L112[00:21:22] <sugoi> zug, anyhwo
L113[00:21:39] <sugoi> astro73: you wrote the serialization to a file?
L114[00:21:48] <gamax92> sugoi: you never said anything about the video btw
L115[00:21:49] <sugoi> can you just `more file.txt` ?
L116[00:21:55] <sugoi> gamax92: i watched it
L117[00:22:02] <sugoi> you switched to 5.3, and it booted
L118[00:22:02] <astro73> that's not the problem
L119[00:22:16] <sugoi> astro73: first of all, i'll revert the change, 2nd, then what is your problem?
L120[00:22:26] <gamax92> sugoi: no but obviously that wouldn't magically create free memory, what did I do to do so?
L121[00:22:38] <astro73> the problem was that what it wrote to to the file was about 10 entries to the table and then "..."
L122[00:22:49] <astro73> (when set to pretty)
L123[00:22:55] <gamax92> astro73: pass math.huge instead of true
L124[00:23:10] <sugoi> gamax92: hmm? maybe i need to rewatch
L125[00:23:11] <gamax92> pretty is actually a number value (but it also accepts booleans and defaults to 10)
L126[00:23:14] <astro73> i didn't even realize it took a non-bool
L127[00:23:27] <sugoi> oh, astro73 -- you're talking about something different!
L128[00:23:31] <sugoi> i thought....
L129[00:23:34] * sugoi checks code
L130[00:24:05] <astro73> i'm discussing the serialization module
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L132[00:24:17] <astro73> (or s11n as i like to call it)
L133[00:24:42] <astro73> oh, excuse me, serialize(pretty=true)'s breaking behavior is documented
L134[00:24:51] <astro73> the fact that it can take a number is not
L135[00:25:17] <sugoi> wow, i'm embarrassed
L136[00:25:24] <sugoi> i DID revert that old change i used for debugging
L137[00:25:30] <sugoi> i changed the default pretty length to like 10k
L138[00:25:32] <sugoi> the default is 10
L139[00:25:50] <sugoi> yeah so....
L140[00:25:52] * sugoi hides
L141[00:25:55] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: pretty=number of entries outputted?
L142[00:26:14] <sugoi> DeanIsaKitty: true==10
L143[00:26:19] <sugoi> because, the default pretty len is 10 lines
L144[00:26:29] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi: That was not the question.
L145[00:26:30] <sugoi> from the source
L146[00:26:32] <sugoi> local limit = type(pretty) == "number" and pretty or 10
L147[00:26:39] <sugoi> oh, ok
L148[00:26:43] * sugoi back to shadows
L149[00:27:06] <astro73> i assumed the number was the number of lines
L150[00:28:10] <DeanIsaKitty> astro73: There, documentation updated.
L151[00:28:51] <astro73> that's handy, since pretty-printing 3dm files would be nice if you have to edit them by hand again
L152[00:29:48] <sugoi> gamax92: watched again
L153[00:29:50] <sugoi> ok wat?
L154[00:29:59] <sugoi> why did it work so much better with 5.3 arch?
L155[00:30:07] <sugoi> how did you get 30k free on 1.5 like that?
L156[00:30:25] <astro73> (also, may have to build a dedicated IRC computer now)
L157[00:30:30] <Kimiro> wat
L158[00:30:42] <DeanIsaKitty> astro73: Or use an actual IRC client? (Just saying)
L159[00:31:30] <gamax92> sugoi: I patched machine.lua to strip debugging information in load :P
L160[00:31:45] <gamax92> not an actual solution but more (I could and so I did)
L161[00:32:06] <sugoi> ha, cool
L162[00:32:25] <astro73> deanisakitty: my computer is too wimpy to have much open at the same time as this modpack
L163[00:32:58] <gamax92> it's also like 43k, forgot to take into account fluctuations
L164[00:33:37] <astro73> let me try irssi, though...
L165[00:34:19] <DeanIsaKitty> astro73: hex takes like how many kb ram??
L166[00:34:31] <sugoi> that is quite significant
L167[00:34:52] <sugoi> gamax92: perhaps would should feature-request something like...a new arch that doesn't have debug info?
L168[00:35:29] <astro73> bbiab
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L172[00:42:07] <gamax92> sugoi: probably not
L173[00:43:01] <gamax92> it'll screw up error messages and tracebacks up a little
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L175[00:43:34] <astro73|irssi> well, that took a bit longer than i was hoping
L176[00:43:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Vexatoast. :I
L177[00:44:12] <gamax92> peanut butter n strawberry jelly
L178[00:44:32] <astro73|irssi> oh, btw, can a peripheral be attached to more than one computer?
L179[00:44:33] <Vexatos> Hello dean the old and wise
L180[00:45:06] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm not old. And even less wise. I think you're looking for Dashkal. <.<
L181[00:45:34] <Dashkal> Fuck that. Wise?
L182[00:45:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Nah, old.
L183[00:45:58] <astro73|irssi> and if not, has any implemented network file sharing?
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L185[00:46:07] <Dashkal> mrh, compared to plenty here, true
L186[00:47:38] <Izaya> astro73|irssi: like, NFS-style or?
L187[00:47:56] <astro73|irssi> yeah, like mounting a remote file system
L188[00:48:06] <Izaya> It's been done
L189[00:48:09] <astro73|irssi> (assuming you can't just have multiple computers talking to a RAID)
L190[00:48:12] <Izaya> can't point you to any though
L191[00:48:35] <astro73|irssi> i assumed it can be done, since i saw redfs in oppm
L192[00:51:02] <gamax92> I should write a networked vcomponent
L193[00:53:53] <Xilandro> astro73|irssi, check out ServerFS, and GFT, on the OC forums. Link's in the topic
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L197[00:59:49] <astro73|irssi> thanks!
L198[01:01:44] <astro73|irssi> ... i have to register to see anything, don't i?
L199[01:02:07] <Kodos> Possibly
L200[01:02:43] <astro73|irssi> all i see are announcements and releases
L201[01:03:08] <Izaya> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/828-gft-simple-intra-network-file-transfer/ I'm not logged in
L202[01:03:27] <Izaya> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/844-serverfs-host-a-filesystem-over-the-network/
L203[01:06:00] <astro73|irssi> weird
L204[01:06:05] <Kodos> Wassat
L205[01:15:47] <astro73|irssi> i'm allowed to look at it, but not search for or browse to it
L206[01:18:18] <Kodos> Weird
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L208[01:36:18] <Kodos> Oh neat, I found my IC2 reactor printer thinger
L209[01:40:30] <astro73|irssi> so yeah, my code is http://pastebin.com/UbujR14P and http://pastebin.com/xFHGisPb
L210[01:40:58] <astro73|irssi> (lib/model.lua and bin/print3d-holo.lua)
L211[01:41:05] <Kodos> Oh nice, a print3d holo preview program?
L212[01:41:40] <astro73|irssi> yeah
L213[01:42:07] <astro73|irssi> requires a database of textures->rgb that i'm still working on, though
L214[01:45:49] <astro73|irssi> but yeah, eventually i'm going to work on a model editor that shapes on screen and a holographic preview
L215[02:01:48] <astro73|irssi> *has
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L217[02:02:36] <Kodos> https://pastebin.com/rjFduUMV =D
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L220[02:24:17] <astro73|irssi> nice
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L224[03:12:37] * vifino groans and flops on Lizzy
L225[03:19:09] <vifino> >DeanIsaKitty >Old and Wise >nope.avi
L226[03:19:18] <vifino> More like derpy and adorable.
L227[03:19:32] <vifino> Plus an idiot.
L228[03:32:17] <Sangar> o/
L229[03:32:45] <Dashkal> 'lo
L230[03:33:15] <Sangar> and behold'
L231[03:34:11] <Vexatos> snag ar
L232[03:34:12] <Vexatos> o\
L233[03:36:50] <Sangar> so, anyone had a chance to see how broken 189 16 is? :X
L234[03:36:58] <Vexatos> wait
L235[03:37:02] <Vexatos> it's ready to be tested
L236[03:37:06] <Vexatos> and you have not told me?!ß
L237[03:37:07] <Vexatos> rpodhgsi9bhsph
L238[03:37:09] <Vexatos> damnit
L239[03:37:10] <Vexatos> D:
L240[03:37:39] <Sangar> you were offline :P
L241[03:37:47] <Izaya> .tell?
L242[03:38:27] <Sangar> also i did not expect i'd have to tell you personally :X
L243[03:38:43] <Sangar> it's not like there arent 100 other people in the channel :P
L244[03:39:41] <Kodos> I was actually getting ready to go grab it
L245[03:40:34] <Kodos> Build 8, I'm guessing?
L246[03:46:07] <Sangar> if that's the last one, yes
L247[03:47:46] <Kodos> It's from like 3 days ago, so I assume so
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L249[03:58:14] <Kodos> Well, the first thing i see is Terminal Servers don't have a texture
L250[03:58:40] <Kodos> The item, anyway
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L252[04:10:10] <Kodos> Other than th at, nothing seems broken. I'll tinker with it though
L253[04:13:19] <Kodos> Hm, when installing OpenOS, it seems to fail right before the All Set! message, something about not being able to write mnt onto itself
L254[04:25:09] <Sangar> hmm, that should've been fixed. might have not pulled that into 189 yet
L255[04:26:11] <Sangar> Vexatos, dafuq is dis http://pastebin.com/uzRH8bpg
L256[04:26:55] <Vexatos> something related to recipe sorter? :P+
L257[04:27:06] <Sangar> well you added the decolorizer thinger :P
L258[04:27:10] <Vexatos> I guess it doesn't like that the decolorize recipe should load after the colorize one?
L259[04:27:13] <Vexatos> maybe I made a typo there
L260[04:27:19] <Vexatos> should be sorted after*
L261[04:28:08] <Sangar> RecipeSorter.register(Settings.namespace + "decolorizer", classOf[DecolorizeRecipe], Category.SHAPELESS, "after:oc:decolorizer") -> RecipeSorter.register(Settings.namespace + "decolorizer", classOf[DecolorizeRecipe], Category.SHAPELESS, "after:*") ?
L262[04:28:28] <Vexatos> Yup I did
L263[04:28:32] <Vexatos> RecipeSorter.register(Settings.namespace + "decolorizer", classOf[DecolorizeRecipe], Category.SHAPELESS, "after:oc:decolorizer")
L264[04:28:36] <Vexatos> has to be after:oc:colorizer
L265[04:28:44] <Sangar> ah, k
L266[04:28:53] <Vexatos> otherwise it'll be sorted after itself
L267[04:28:58] <Sangar> yeah :P
L268[04:29:11] <Kodos> In other news, I've almost got ServerFS working
L269[04:29:18] <Kodos> I just need to figure out why it's timing out
L270[04:29:24] <Sangar> wazzat
L271[04:29:38] <Kodos> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/844-serverfs-host-a-filesystem-over-the-network/
L272[04:31:15] <Vexatos> Sangar, now to port my entire rack mountable and upgrade renderers to GLStateManager ;_;
L273[04:32:06] <Vexatos> ....why again do we need this
L274[04:32:11] <Kodos> Because I want light boards
L275[04:32:12] <Kodos> =D
L276[04:32:14] <Vexatos> No
L277[04:32:15] <Vexatos> I mean
L278[04:32:18] <Vexatos> what is the difference
L279[04:32:26] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L280[04:32:31] <Vexatos> between GlStateManager.blendFunc and GL11.glBlendFunc
L281[04:32:42] <Vexatos> Do you have any clue, snagar? >_>
L282[04:36:14] <Sangar> Vexatos, because the state manager caches stuff and only calls the actual gl functions when something changed
L283[04:36:25] <Sangar> so if you don't use it, you desync the gl state from the manager
L284[04:36:30] <Vexatos> but there is no glColor3ub equivalent
L285[04:36:35] <Sangar> and rendering in other mods may break e.g.
L286[04:36:45] <Vexatos> wat do
L287[04:36:50] <Sangar> floatify?
L288[04:37:07] <Vexatos> and some git really thought this was "better"?
L289[04:37:09] <Sangar> Kodos, neat
L290[04:37:19] <vifino> Yaaay, finally my ddns thing worked.
L291[04:37:22] <Vexatos> how do I even floatify an unsigned byte
L292[04:37:27] <Kodos> Magic
L293[04:37:29] <Sangar> Vexatos, it's probably them working towards making this stuff plugin-api-able or some such thing
L294[04:37:59] <Sangar> Vexatos, (b&0xff)/255f?
L295[04:38:12] <Vexatos> sooo
L296[04:38:13] <Vexatos> ugly
L297[04:38:14] <Vexatos> ;_;
L298[04:38:53] <Vexatos> GlStateManager.color(((color >> 16) & 0xFF) / 255f, ((color >> 8) & 0xFF) / 255f,(color & 0xFF) / 255f);
L299[04:38:54] <Vexatos> ;_;
L300[04:38:56] <Sangar> i wouldnt even be surprised if internally the state manager would then do (int)(b*255) or so :P
L301[04:39:01] <Vexatos> Yea
L302[04:39:02] <Sangar> haha
L303[04:39:09] <Vexatos> no, it calls GL11.glColor4f
L304[04:39:14] <Sangar> aww
L305[04:39:25] <Vexatos> GlStateManager.blendFunc(GL11.GL_SRC_ALPHA, GL11.GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA);
L306[04:39:29] <Vexatos> such use
L307[04:39:30] <Vexatos> many efficient
L308[04:39:31] <Vexatos> wow
L309[04:39:37] * Vexatos sighs
L310[04:40:21] <Kodos> I gotta admit, ServerFS makes me want rackmounted raids more :x
L311[04:40:56] <vifino> Yaaay, wtfits.science points to my home ip once again
L312[04:41:00] <Vexatos> Kodos, you won't get them
L313[04:41:03] <Vexatos> make them yourself
L314[04:41:11] <Kodos> Vexatos, believe it or not, I've tried
L315[04:41:15] <Vexatos> or just place. down. a. god. damn. raid.
L316[04:41:20] <Vexatos> it's not that hard
L317[04:42:06] <Kodos> With how racks behave in 1.6, wrt the side selection within the rack gui, it feels.. better, to have a raid within the rack, as opposed to taking up the blockspace on that side
L318[04:42:28] <Kodos> So, while I appreciate the advice, I'll continue my quest for rmr's
L319[04:45:26] <Kodos> As far as other rack mountables, Sangar have you given any thought of late to #1594?
L320[04:48:03] <Sangar> i hadn't. re adapters, most likely not, as for upgrades... if anything i feel like i should rip out upgrades from the adapters, so there'd have to be a new block for them. for that there *may* be a mountable, but i'll have to have another look at which upgrades can go into the adapter right now, i totally lost track
L321[04:49:36] <Kodos> I'd mainly like to see database upgrades more than anything, MAYBE geolyzer though that seems too complex of a block to stick in a mountable. But databases could be neat for relaying information back and forth to a robot that may be mining or crafting or what have you
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L327[05:09:13] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L328[05:09:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, terminal server texture is missing
L329[05:09:46] <Vexatos> furthermore, the block name of the rack seems to have changed
L330[05:09:49] <Sangar> yeah, Kodos said so; probably upper/lowercase again
L331[05:09:56] <Vexatos> meaning any rack already placed before upgrade to 1.6 would go poof
L332[05:10:15] <Sangar> i thought i added a remapping handler for that
L333[05:11:06] <Vexatos> also: No single mountable renders properly
L334[05:11:13] <Sangar> yeah. it should remap the old blocks
L335[05:11:16] <Vexatos> maybe you did in 1.7
L336[05:11:25] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0u90QZLjl8 this is so nice to have on in the backgroujnd
L337[05:11:28] <MichiBot> Inari: ► Best of Electro Swing November 2015 ◄ ~( ̄▽ ̄)~ | length: 48m 5s | Likes: 12578 Dislikes: 142 Views: 573376 | by Xefox Music
L338[05:11:31] <Vexatos> but I definitely just got a message "blah blah missing block"
L339[05:11:37] <Vexatos> when joining the world
L340[05:11:43] <Sangar> Vexatos, it's also there in 189, will need to retest then
L341[05:11:46] <vifino> Inari: electro swing is good, yes.
L342[05:12:00] * Inari shakes vifino
L343[05:12:06] <vifino> waaat
L344[05:12:12] <Inari> why has never anyone told me about it? <- totally legit sentence
L345[05:12:13] <Sangar> Vexatos, iirc you need to force a chunk rerender atm
L346[05:12:20] <Vexatos> Yes indeed
L347[05:12:23] <Vexatos> that fixed it
L348[05:12:34] <Sangar> yeah. forgot to add that before pushing
L349[05:12:44] <vifino> Inari: I probably spoke about it before
L350[05:13:29] <Inari> vifino: well i cant read everything said here
L351[05:14:08] <vifino> Inari: Then don't complain.
L352[05:14:09] <vifino> :D
L353[05:14:21] <Inari> https://twitter.com/Kirika_ma_cos/status/702502621022531584 i cant recall where that was linked, was it here?
L354[05:14:22] <MichiBot> Wed Feb 24 08:37:31 CST 2016 @Kirika_ma_cos: だいしゅきホールドからの腕ひしぎ十字固め https://t.co/hlfEYt3YHH
L355[05:15:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, icons used in a TESR need to be stitched now, too?
L356[05:16:10] <Inari> vifino: usually i find it annoying to keep music running in the background, as it tends to give me headache or make me feel fatigues :P but eletro swing blends in pretty nicely
L357[05:16:47] <asie> Vexatos: no
L358[05:16:48] <Sangar> oh i moved that to the api :X didn't mean to
L359[05:16:52] <asie> oh in TIS?
L360[05:16:54] <asie> or OC
L361[05:17:07] <Sangar> he's talking about rack mountable overlays
L362[05:17:10] <Vexatos> yes
L363[05:17:16] <Vexatos> TileEntity.renderOverlay
L364[05:17:25] <Vexatos> only takes stitched resource locations, apparently
L365[05:17:35] <Sangar> i moved the texture lookup to the api, and basically force people to use the atlas, that was unintentional
L366[05:17:39] <Sangar> will change that
L367[05:17:51] <Vexatos> yup
L368[05:17:56] <vifino> Inari: Same.
L369[05:18:00] <Vexatos> added stuff to texturestitchevent and it works now
L370[05:18:33] <Inari> vifino: might also have something to do with that i dont try to make it as loud as my usual music :P
L371[05:18:37] <Vexatos> hmm
L372[05:18:43] <Vexatos> now I caused a chunk rerender and it didn't update
L373[05:18:48] <Vexatos> it only displays the TESR now, cute
L374[05:22:23] <Sangar> oh, right, that was why... i switched most of the stuff to atlas in 18. gah.
L375[05:23:08] <Vexatos> Sangar, and for some reason... I have infinite energy?
L376[05:23:11] <Vexatos> oh wait
L377[05:23:17] <Vexatos> might be due to lack of power mod
L378[05:23:32] <Vexatos> because my SSD is continuously running
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L380[05:29:45] <Vexatos> Sangar, look at this change log http://git.io/v22LN
L381[05:29:46] <Vexatos> ;_;
L382[05:29:53] <Vexatos> why is it so much larger than 1.6.0 .-.
L383[05:30:02] <Vexatos> I don't want to release 1.7.0 that's be boring D:
L384[05:30:19] <Sangar> :P
L385[05:32:22] <Vexatos> Sangar, regarding SidedBlock
L386[05:32:32] <Vexatos> I think you should deprecate all the prefab stuff using Block, too
L387[05:34:12] <Sangar> oh right, prefabs
L388[05:34:39] <Vexatos> in other news, while you were gone, Soni came along and actually did some sane suggestions to Computronics
L389[05:34:47] <Vexatos> and now the Iron Note Block is 50% better and more safe
L390[05:35:43] <Vexatos> AHAHAHAA
L391[05:35:51] <Vexatos> https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/network look at this thing .-.
L392[05:36:04] <Vexatos> NotEnoughMerging
L393[05:36:18] <vifino> The Mergening(tm)
L394[05:37:04] <Vexatos> Mergendising
L395[05:45:39] <g> #Justserverrackthings
L396[05:46:16] <Kodos> Anyway, I'ma go to bed. Rackmounted Databases get ;-D
L397[05:46:46] <g> interesting reason to go to bed
L398[05:46:55] <Kodos> That's not my reason
L399[05:46:58] <Kodos> Being awake for 24+h is
L400[05:47:10] <Kodos> I'm not even tired, but at this point, I should probably sleep
L401[05:47:11] <g> :P
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L403[05:55:55] <Lennart> Can't seem to find what inventory funcionality drones/robots have without the inventory controller, do you need it to do basically anything with the inventory?
L404[05:57:52] <Inari> ~oc robot
L405[05:57:52] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot
L406[05:58:19] <Lennart> thanks
L407[05:58:32] <Inari> seems it can transfer, compare, measrue space/count
L408[05:58:38] <Inari> at least the robot
L409[05:58:40] <Inari> no clue on drone
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L414[06:22:00] * Lizzy groans and wonders why she decided falling asleep at her desk was a good idea
L415[06:22:08] * Lizzy notices a vifino on her lap
L416[06:22:11] * Lizzy pets
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L418[06:22:39] * Saphire mews
L419[06:22:48] * Lizzy pets Saphire
L420[06:22:55] <Lizzy> .default
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L422[06:23:00] * vifino purrs
L423[06:23:05] * vifino kisses Lizzy <3
L424[06:23:15] * Lizzy kisses vifino back
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L426[06:27:31] <Inari> anyone made DLL loader/injectors for .net games yet? xD
L427[06:30:49] <Inari> im kinda completely lost on how a good laoder would work :D
L428[06:31:03] <Inari> a crappy one can just load some DLL and leave all the other things up to the DLL I guess
L429[06:31:05] <Inari> but dunno
L430[06:32:04] <vifino> Inari: Linux library injector: LD_PRELOAD="/path/to/library.so" program
L431[06:32:05] <vifino> :D
L432[06:32:39] <Inari> yeah lets use linux lib injectors for windows games
L433[06:33:14] <Saphire> ...
L434[06:33:17] <Saphire> wtf, wine
L435[06:33:45] <vifino> Inari: Yep.
L436[06:33:47] <Inari> wtf, lets make every normal user install linux and wine to run the game
L437[06:33:51] <Inari> great idea
L438[06:33:56] <vifino> ^
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L440[06:35:10] <Inari> so do i make al oader that injects the DLLs? or do i patch the .exe to load the DLLs?
L441[06:35:31] <Saphire> ...fuck you wine
L442[06:35:44] <Saphire> wine: WINEARCH set to win32 but '~/.wine' is a 64-bit installation.
L443[06:35:45] <vifino> Inari: loader that injects the dll
L444[06:35:50] <Saphire> that's clean .wine
L445[06:35:52] <vifino> Saphire rm -rf .wine
L446[06:35:57] <Saphire> ITS CLEAN
L447[06:36:12] <vifino> RM -RF IT ANYWAYS
L448[06:36:13] <Saphira> meow
L449[06:36:24] <Saphire> ...rky
L450[06:36:27] <Saphire> *rly
L451[06:36:31] <Saphire> it was just an empty dir
L452[06:36:42] <Saphire> and it was screaming that it's 64 bit installation
L453[06:36:54] <Saphira> meow
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L455[06:38:08] <Saphira> well
L456[06:38:17] <Saphira> im a dragon
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L458[06:38:26] * Saphire sighs
L459[06:38:29] <Saphira> hello
L460[06:42:29] <Inari> nnow to figure out how to make a launcher in C# :P
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L462[06:43:18] <vifino> Haha, netflix thinks I am in the US.
L463[06:43:26] <Saphire> vifino: yay
L464[06:43:55] <Saphire> hm, apparently "PA2" is cance
L465[06:43:58] <Saphire> *cancel
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L468[07:13:06] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/0dSdBwn
L469[07:14:23] <vifino> hahah
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L471[07:30:54] <Vexatos> what is that
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L476[07:45:04] <Inari> Vexatos: what is what?
L477[07:45:17] <Vexatos> that image .-.
L478[07:45:42] <Inari> its pretty sefl explanatory?
L479[07:45:49] <Vexatos> it's creepy .-.
L480[07:45:54] <Inari> how
L481[07:46:14] <Vexatos> cows murdering random strangers is creepy :P
L482[07:46:19] <Inari> lol
L483[07:47:59] <Lizzy> hmm, did Temia drink again?
L484[07:48:26] * Inari throws {Lizzy} at vifino
L485[07:51:24] <vifino> I just got out of the shower, Inari.
L486[07:51:35] <alekso56> hawt
L487[07:52:05] <Temia> mu?
L488[07:52:14] * Temia rubs her eyes.=.=
L489[07:54:38] * vifino pets Temia
L490[07:56:21] * Temia flops against Vifino. \\
L491[07:56:52] * Temia is still in her pyjamas. hugs her plush cow close and curls up. zzzmoo.
L492[07:57:12] * Saphira burns a sandwich by accident
L493[07:57:15] <Saphira> oops
L494[07:57:16] * vifino grabs a small blanket and puts it over Temia
L495[07:57:22] <alekso56> what the hell Saphira D:
L496[07:57:45] <Saphira> im a dragon! (flaps wings)
L497[07:58:04] <alekso56> you are blowing away all the sandwiches now! :l
L498[07:58:16] * Saphira tucks away wings
L499[07:58:18] <Saphira> oops
L500[07:58:40] * Saphira grabs some marshmellows
L501[07:59:16] * Saphira roasts a few
L502[08:00:24] * Saphira walks off with the marshmellows
L503[08:01:06] <Lizzy> Saphira, don't worry about your wings hitting stuff. mine do it all the time
L504[08:01:27] * Saphira groans before eating all the marshmellows
L505[08:02:36] <Saphira> om nom
L506[08:03:00] * Saphira finds a wild pikachu
L507[08:03:04] <Saphira> Eek!
L508[08:04:00] <Saphira> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u82ptblJvog
L509[08:04:02] <MichiBot> Saphira: The Hunt for Pikachu | length: 1m 38s | Likes: 139547 Dislikes: 4465 Views: 19791163 | by FinalCutKing
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L515[08:35:00] <Saphira> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz3FeSDWxvI
L516[08:35:02] <MichiBot> Saphira: Day in the life of a Stormtrooper | length: 7m 44s | Likes: 61246 Dislikes: 6062 Views: 14113172 | by Ace Cosplay
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L524[09:27:14] <Inari> windows pls
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L527[09:37:58] <Inari> windows please
L528[09:38:02] <Inari> how do zou do that even
L529[09:39:57] <Inari> there was some 0kb file that wouldnt allow itself to be deleted or rigthclicked, else explorer woudl freeze, then explorer froze up even more D: and then i closed it in task manager but it wouldnt fully let itself be closed... couldnt start cmd or anything in task manager either, so i hit the PCs reset button.. then it showed the first screen I see after starting up (black with just a underline on
L530[09:39:57] <Inari> the top left), but wouldnt continue, hit reset again, same, had to actually turn the PC off and then on again <.<
L531[09:40:17] * Vexatos pokes marcin212
L532[09:43:20] <`-`> I just found the reason why my ARM arch tripped up when attempting to run Lua .-.
L533[09:43:31] <`-`> It's a pretty stupid bug too
L534[09:43:37] <`-`> And it's not even my fault
L535[09:43:55] <Inari> what is it?
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L537[09:49:07] <`-`> Inari: The bug was that flag bits were being set by the barrel shifter before the instruction condition code was ever looked at, making instructions with certain condition codes always execute in certain situations
L538[09:49:25] <`-`> It broke a random jump table in Lua's bytecode generator
L539[09:49:47] <`-`> But hey, "GPU_ADDRESS set [1.0, 1.0, 2+2 = 4]"
L540[09:49:51] <`-`> it works
L541[09:49:56] <alekso56> what is a barrel shifter? .-.
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L544[09:50:14] <`-`> alekso56: It shifts things in a barrel
L545[09:50:55] <`-`> Well, I think they refer to the barrel shifter as the part on the chip that handles inline shifting operations in instructions
L546[09:51:12] <alekso56> like a shift register?
L547[09:51:32] <`-`> I'm pretty sure they call it a barrel shifter because you can do bit rotation
L548[09:51:50] <`-`> There are diagrams of the shift operations in the ARM7TDMI manual
L549[09:52:11] <`-`> But anyways, I need to get breakfast
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L551[10:11:31] * gamax92 puts heated blanket over vifino and Temia
L552[10:12:13] <alekso56> gamax92: fanart, stat.
L553[10:12:51] <gamax92> I don't have a drawing style of vifino
L554[10:13:19] <alekso56> ahhh right, vifino needs a chibi
L555[10:13:40] <gamax92> :3
L556[10:15:04] <Temia> mu? o-o
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L558[10:19:37] <alekso56> gamax92: just put anon as vifino.
L559[10:19:43] <alekso56> good nuff.
L560[10:21:14] <gamax92> eww no
L561[10:21:40] <gamax92> that would just look bad
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L566[10:26:47] <alekso56> gamax92: just the outline?
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L568[10:32:26] <gamax92> fakeroot :P
L569[10:44:00] <Temia> If you put an anon in place of Viffy I'd feel like some kind of /tg/ drawfriend bait :c
L570[10:45:08] <alekso56> wifino heh.
L571[10:45:26] <g> waifuno?
L572[10:45:33] <g> :P
L573[10:47:22] <gamax92> Temia: this is why I refused to use an anon
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L575[10:50:48] <Temia> ...t-though I wouldn't mind the attention if it did come to that... .3.
L576[10:50:53] * Temia pokes her fingers together
L577[10:51:08] <alekso56> baka~
L578[10:51:12] <Temia> :c
L579[10:51:33] <gamax92> I can't draw right now anyway XD
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L583[10:59:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Nachtara :D
L584[10:59:33] <Nachtara> :D
L585[11:01:17] * Lizzy starts playing her bass to random songs
L586[11:02:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Also I'm pretty sure I'm happy that I have no idea what that scrollback is supposed to mean.
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L589[11:08:53] <gamax92> huh ...
L590[11:09:29] <gamax92> https://git.io/v22ac
L591[11:10:05] <gamax92> tables are checked for in toSimpleJavaObject, so why aren't they supported
L592[11:10:25] <Vexatos> they are
L593[11:10:36] <gamax92> what? I can't get them to work then
L594[11:10:45] <Vexatos> guess how the beep card works
L595[11:10:48] <Vexatos> why it can take tables
L596[11:10:49] <Vexatos> .-.
L597[11:11:00] <gamax92> so, is signals specifically also looking for tables and then removing them?
L598[11:11:33] <gamax92> because looking at pushSignal it looks like it just specifically calls toSimpleJavaObjects
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L600[11:12:00] <Vexatos> signals?
L601[11:12:37] <gamax92> Vexatos: ... computer signals
L602[11:12:39] <gamax92> pushSignal
L603[11:12:41] <gamax92> you know, that thing?
L604[11:12:42] <Vexatos> ah
L605[11:12:44] <Vexatos> yea
L606[11:13:01] <Vexatos> uuh
L607[11:13:07] <Vexatos> never tried sending tables through signals
L608[11:13:12] <Vexatos> but... it should work?
L609[11:13:45] <gamax92> it doesn't, just gives nil, and "tables and functions are not supported."
L610[11:14:00] <gamax92> err no, it doesn't give nil, "tables and functions are not supported.", that's what it says in the manual
L611[11:14:34] <alekso56> i hate things that follow the manual.
L612[11:14:34] <gamax92> I said that badly :P
L613[11:15:58] <gamax92> hmm ...
L614[11:16:09] <gamax92> Vexatos: "Trying to push signal with an unsupported argument of type li.cil.repack.com.naef.jnlua.DefaultConverter$18" is what a table gives
L615[11:16:25] <Vexatos> huh
L616[11:16:30] <Vexatos> well
L617[11:16:34] <Vexatos> I guess you can't, then :P
L618[11:17:17] <gamax92> Vexatos: but think about it though, toSimpleJavaObjects states java.util.Map
L619[11:18:11] <gamax92> or well, ExtendedLuaState does anyway, ScalaClosure doesn't
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L623[11:19:48] <gamax92> I'd imagine to be the ExtendedLuaState one though, that's whats being imported
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L626[12:10:23] <DeanIsaKitty> http://thetab.com/us/rutgers/2016/02/18/swastika-3563 So this happened. And its quite funny because as a german I at least know that the swastika goes the other way round ^.^
L627[12:14:46] <gamax92> sugoi: fixed pullSignal in ocemu
L628[12:15:02] <gamax92> it's now nil preserving and removes tables and functions
L629[12:15:27] <gamax92> it should also probably remove threads ...
L630[12:16:22] <gamax92> yep.
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L637[13:12:28] <greaser|q> hearing that story about the 0kb file reminds me of this still glorious bug in windows, i don't know if it still exists simply because it involves a floppy disk
L638[13:13:01] <DeanIsaKitty> It's *windows*. They are backwards-compatible in their bugs.
L639[13:13:42] <greaser|q> what you do is you create a blank file, use debug.exe to manually edit the disk and turn it into a directory, then when you open the now-directory and try to create a new text document in it from explorer your CPU resets
L640[13:14:06] <greaser|q> to check your familiarity with x86: do you know what a triple-fault is
L641[13:14:19] <`-`> Oh baby a triple
L642[13:14:31] <gamax92> thats ... interesting
L643[13:14:37] <`-`> If you fault in your fault handler you fault for real
L644[13:14:44] <gamax92> can't see why'd that break besides the lack of . and .. entries
L645[13:14:52] <greaser|q> because if you don't, you're about to find out why this is so glorious
L646[13:14:52] <gamax92> oh right
L647[13:15:00] <gamax92> empty files have no clusters
L648[13:15:03] <greaser|q> yeah
L649[13:15:16] <greaser|q> and aren't allocated a pointer on the disk all
L650[13:15:35] <greaser|q> so what happens is it manages to get, i think a page fault
L651[13:15:48] <gamax92> Well I can always just craft a virtual floppy image :P
L652[13:15:49] <greaser|q> in the fault handler it ends up faulting on that address again
L653[13:15:55] <greaser|q> this moves to the double fault handler
L654[13:16:05] <greaser|q> you're supposed to be REALLY CAREFUL here
L655[13:16:22] <greaser|q> and from my understanding, MS are REALLY CAREFUL here though i've yet to see a double fault show up properly
L656[13:16:35] <greaser|q> turns out, they weren't careful enough, so they fault in the double-fault handler
L657[13:16:38] <greaser|q> this causes a triple-fault
L658[13:16:42] <Stary2001> :D
L659[13:16:48] <greaser|q> once you hit a triple-fault, the CPU goes "fuck it, i'm resetting"
L660[13:16:56] <Stary2001> greaser|q: linux has triple-faulting as an intentional reboot mechanism
L661[13:17:09] <greaser|q> Stary2001: lots of things do... in this case, it's definitely not intentional
L662[13:17:14] <Stary2001> :D
L663[13:17:25] <greaser|q> heck, on the 80286 you had to reset the CPU somehow to get out of protected mode
L664[13:17:33] <Stary2001> huh
L665[13:17:40] <greaser|q> the expected method was to fuck with the keyboard controller
L666[13:17:49] <greaser|q> lots of waiting and dropping magic bytes in
L667[13:18:14] <greaser|q> but of course the easier solution was to set up a blank interrupt descriptor table (IDT) and then trigger a fault
L668[13:19:10] <Temia> I'd try that but I think my USB floppy drive is busted. Plus I'm not sure whether it'd work with one or not.
L669[13:19:15] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, http://i.imgur.com/u4pvwz0.jpg
L670[13:19:48] <greaser|q> i recall reading some info on how to reset your computer in code and much like the A20 line and getting memory info it turns out that every single method has at least one system that doesn't support it
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L672[13:20:41] <greaser|q> jumping to FFFF:FFF0 is actually pretty stupid as you really do want the reset signal to go out to places
L673[13:21:05] <greaser|q> but the general rule is if you have ACPI, use that
L674[13:21:20] <greaser|q> if not, use APM if available, and if not, uhh
L675[13:21:30] <greaser|q> i think it actually boils down to "do *exactly* what Windows does"
L676[13:21:47] <greaser|q> which means you have to parse buggy ACPI tables and emulate the Windows-specific bugs in it
L677[13:22:02] <greaser|q> in short, PCs fucking suck
L678[13:22:16] <Stary2001> :D
L679[13:22:36] <`-`> We just need another standardized architecture that hasn't been around for 20+ years
L680[13:22:51] * Stary2001 looks at arm
L681[13:22:58] * Stary2001 looks away from arm jesus christ help me
L682[13:23:11] <`-`> Stary2001: The problem with ARM is that it gives the chip makers the ability to do whatever they want
L683[13:23:15] <greaser|q> to be honest, ARM's instruction set has managed to hold up for all these years without being severely mangled
L684[13:23:25] <greaser|q> and yes what `-` said
L685[13:24:06] <`-`> Thats the reason why phones have to have specific versions of their operating systems that interface with the phone's unique set of hardware
L686[13:24:26] <greaser|q> although that also has the advantage that they can cut out the backwards compatibility cruft
L687[13:24:26] <`-`> You can't take the ROM from a Moto X and drop it in a Nexus 5 and expect it to run
L688[13:25:09] <gamax92> greaser|q: isn't that also in part of Java?
L689[13:25:10] <greaser|q> your friendly reminder that 26-bit mode was dropped entirely in ARMv5
L690[13:25:19] <gamax92> Android wise
L691[13:25:26] <greaser|q> gamax92: what's in part of java?
L692[13:25:34] <gamax92> the lack of backwards compatibility
L693[13:26:00] <greaser|q> java definitely has backwards compat, you just need to compile for that version
L694[13:26:21] <`-`> gamax92: It's more like the memory mapping between two phones are completely different
L695[13:26:23] <greaser|q> private protected anyone?
L696[13:26:45] <greaser|q> `-`: fortunately mmap is a thing so userspace can be consistent
L697[13:26:48] <`-`> ARM doesn't really have stuff like x86 where you can describe every part of the system to the running program
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L700[13:27:57] <Inari> Shuudoushi: http://i.imgur.com/SBQZXRZ.jpg ? :P
L701[13:28:03] <Inari> "this is how real pros play"
L702[13:28:27] <Shuudoushi> o.O
L703[13:28:32] <greaser|q> also, your friendly reminder that your 64-bit computer *still* boots into 16-bit real mode just so you can run DOS 2.0
L704[13:28:41] <Shuudoushi> Inari: I don't even...
L705[13:28:42] <greaser|q> and that A20 line is still a thing
L706[13:28:55] <`-`> also, you should look at your CPU flags
L707[13:29:07] <Shuudoushi> and that fucker is british, their weird anyway!
L708[13:29:17] <`-`> Hello 3dnowprefetch
L709[13:29:18] <greaser|q> what's this about CPU flags?
L710[13:29:23] <greaser|q> ahhhh
L711[13:29:37] <greaser|q> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx lahf_lm ida arat epb pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid
L712[13:29:37] <greaser|q> xsaveopt
L713[13:29:38] <Shuudoushi> s/their/they're
L714[13:29:39] <MichiBot> <Shuudoushi> and that fucker is british, they're weird anyway!
L715[13:29:50] <greaser|q> it's an intel, there's no 3dnow on here
L716[13:29:53] <Shuudoushi> also
L717[13:29:56] <gamax92> greaser|q: atleast grub can skip loading the 16bit stub on linux kernels
L718[13:30:02] * Shuudoushi licks Inari's face for being a brat.
L719[13:30:15] <`-`> greaser|q: AMD has this weird thing with still supporting parts of 3dnow
L720[13:30:28] <`-`> bugs : fxsave_leak
L721[13:30:32] <greaser|q> gamax92: well yeah, but grub itself is still given 16-bit real mode with the A20 line forced to 0
L722[13:30:34] <`-`> It seems I have a CPU bug
L723[13:30:39] <greaser|q> ahahahaha
L724[13:30:52] <greaser|q> i apparently have no CPU bugs
L725[13:30:57] <greaser|q> i do have a fuckton of GPU bugs though
L726[13:30:58] <`-`> Lucky
L727[13:31:10] <greaser|q> it's a sandy bridge CPU
L728[13:31:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: :3
L729[13:31:27] <gamax92> I forget what CPU this i
L730[13:31:36] * DeanIsaKitty licks Shuudoushi's face for no reason
L731[13:31:47] * Shuudoushi just shrugs.
L732[13:31:48] <gamax92> "bugs : tlb_mmatch apic_c1e fxsave_leak sysret_ss_attrs"
L733[13:31:57] <`-`> AMD A8-4500M APU or "1.9GHz disaster"
L734[13:32:06] <greaser|q> my old laptop's a GM45, the gpu on that has a pretty low bug count from what i've heard
L735[13:32:16] <gamax92> AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 545 Processor
L736[13:32:18] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: you must like having a mouth full of hair then lol
L737[13:32:24] <greaser|q> and i have confirmed that that thing can also raytrace in 320x200
L738[13:32:37] * Shuudoushi needs to fucking shave.
L739[13:32:40] <`-`> greaser|q: At what speed?
L740[13:32:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Go fucking shave
L741[13:32:43] <greaser|q> 30fps
L742[13:32:44] <gamax92> It's a cut quad core but we've confirmed the other two cores are garbage
L743[13:32:49] <`-`> Well damn
L744[13:32:53] <greaser|q> using 1/4-res shadows
L745[13:32:57] <greaser|q> well, 1/4-scale
L746[13:32:59] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: but I'm lazy and it's fucking cold here
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L748[13:33:22] <greaser|q> yes, the GM45 is actually worth targeting as a minimum spec
L749[13:33:33] <greaser|q> unless you really can't be arsed with gl 2.1
L750[13:33:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: I don't care. Shave :<
L751[13:33:48] <Shuudoushi> lol
L752[13:33:59] <greaser|q> either way it's still reasonably capable
L753[13:34:06] <gamax92> ... lemme check somehing
L754[13:34:12] <`-`> greaser|q: You can almost hear someone in the distance screaming "Vulkan"
L755[13:34:26] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: fine, but only b/c it's getting on my nerves -_-
L756[13:34:31] <DeanIsaKitty> ^^
L757[13:34:32] <greaser|q> `-`: i'd love to see my gm45 run vulkan... but first, i need my hd3000 to run it
L758[13:34:45] <greaser|q> gamax92: if you had a computer that said this, would you shit yourself? bugs : f00f
L759[13:34:47] * DeanIsaKitty is a manipulative little bitch *evil grin*
L760[13:34:55] <gamax92> no
L761[13:35:02] <greaser|q> do you know what the f00f bug is
L762[13:35:10] <gamax92> yes
L763[13:35:14] <gamax92> an old pentium bug
L764[13:35:23] <greaser|q> why would you not shit yourself
L765[13:35:30] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: not really, I'm just sick of my face itching
L766[13:35:38] <greaser|q> could be amusing finding one with the fdiv bug in it
L767[13:35:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Shut up and let me dream :<
L768[13:35:48] <Shuudoushi> LMFAO
L769[13:35:50] <DeanIsaKitty> And go shave.
L770[13:36:10] <`-`> Huh, the CPU pretty much hangs itself forever
L771[13:36:11] <`-`> nice
L772[13:36:31] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: but I am o.O
L773[13:36:38] <gamax92> you are a shave?
L774[13:37:02] <Shuudoushi> I'm actively shaving
L775[13:37:24] <gamax92> Don't shave and drive
L776[13:37:37] <Shuudoushi> lol
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L778[13:37:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Pics or it didn't happen :P
L779[13:37:57] <Shuudoushi> my pocket knife seems to be a bit dull again... need to sharpen it after I'm done
L780[13:38:45] <gamax92> how well does masking tape hold up under pressure
L781[13:38:51] <gamax92> err ... electrical tape
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L783[13:39:05] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Not very well.
L784[13:39:31] <gamax92> oh, what other tapes are there that are black and do
L785[13:39:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Ducktape
L786[13:40:02] <DeanIsaKitty> And Yes I DO know its called Duct tape. I call it Ducktape get fucking used to it.
L787[13:40:37] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: gaffers tape it pretty good
L788[13:40:43] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: I wasn't gonna complain
L789[13:41:03] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: what are you taping and how much pressure does it really need to hold?
L790[13:41:28] <gamax92> the case on my laptop bring split
L791[13:41:38] <Shuudoushi> being*
L792[13:41:47] <gamax92> yes sorry
L793[13:41:50] <greaser|q> something something force something something together
L794[13:42:23] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: any tape should hold it then tbh, but go for gaffers anyway
L795[13:42:52] <Shuudoushi> lol, nicked my lip for the first time in 8 years of shaving with a knife XD
L796[13:43:00] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Weld it? :P
L797[13:43:23] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: jb weld would do the job
L798[13:43:38] <gamax92> I have jb weld
L799[13:44:02] <Shuudoushi> just smudge a bit in there and use the e-tape to hold it for a few hours
L800[13:44:27] <Shuudoushi> just don't expect to be able to ever open the laptop up to replace stuff again though
L801[13:44:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Or just weld it with a soldering iron?
L802[13:44:39] <gamax92> it's plastic ...
L803[13:44:44] <DeanIsaKitty> ...
L804[13:44:45] <DeanIsaKitty> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP3yW-hqFng
L805[13:44:46] <MichiBot> DeanIsaKitty: Plastic Welding 101 | length: 6m 14s | Likes: 1004 Dislikes: 91 Views: 491578 | by ScottysDetailing
L806[13:44:52] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm serious
L807[13:44:58] <Mimiru> Been there... done that
L808[13:45:05] <Shuudoushi> don't suggest it
L809[13:45:40] <gamax92> greaser|q: bleh nope, 945GMS
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L811[13:45:52] <gamax92> GSE*
L812[13:46:26] <greaser|q> 945 is weaker, but still somewhat reasonabl
L813[13:46:26] <greaser|q> e
L814[13:46:34] <greaser|q> what's "complete shit" is the GMA 3150
L815[13:46:38] <Shuudoushi> there, took my face pubs down to just stubble, at least I don't look like a creep or a 12 year old
L816[13:46:45] <greaser|q> i say that and i have a desktop lying around here with an i815 chipset
L817[13:46:47] <Shuudoushi> pubes*
L818[13:47:23] <gamax92> Shaving is a form of time travel
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L820[13:48:07] <Shuudoushi> makes me look 3 years younger, that's for sure...
L821[13:48:18] <Shuudoushi> 13*
L822[13:48:28] <Shuudoushi> I really need to fix this fucking thing -_-
L823[13:48:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Also go sharpen your blade
L824[13:49:23] <Shuudoushi> in the process of
L825[13:49:25] <gamax92> can a keyboards get affected by bad debounce and end up doing double keys?
L826[13:49:46] <Shuudoushi> rubber dome can
L827[13:49:56] <Shuudoushi> not too sure about mech
L828[13:52:11] <Inari> Shuudoushi: british arent weird :P
L829[13:52:56] <Shuudoushi> Inari: you don't know many british soldiers then...
L830[13:52:58] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: interesting, that looks like it's just a normal iron?
L831[13:53:12] <Inari> Shuudoushi: haha
L832[13:53:32] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Uh, what?
L833[13:54:20] <DeanIsaKitty> It's plastic it melts at very low temperatures. So yes, that is a normal soldering iron.
L834[13:55:09] <gamax92> I'd assume the portable soldering iron I have is good enough to work then
L835[13:55:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Probably
L836[13:55:34] <Shuudoushi> the show just opened, so I'm off to fix the valves that loosened up while racing a cop the other day
L837[13:55:38] <Shuudoushi> shop
L838[13:55:41] <Shuudoushi> **
L839[13:55:52] <DeanIsaKitty> YOu did what now??
L840[13:56:03] <gamax92> Shuu ...
L841[13:56:04] <gamax92> bad
L842[13:56:23] <Shuudoushi> I raced a police charger the other day and some of my rockers loosened up from bouncing the rev limiter too much
L843[13:56:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Are you compesating for something? :P
L844[13:56:28] <Shuudoushi> no
L845[13:56:45] <Shuudoushi> I was bored, he was bored, so we hit the interstate
L846[13:57:06] <Shuudoushi> btw, in the US, police charges can't do more than 130 it seems
L847[13:57:15] <gamax92> :|
L848[13:57:30] <DeanIsaKitty> And over here they drive Porsche's to their limit. <.<
L849[13:57:32] <Shuudoushi> chargers*
L850[13:57:42] <Shuudoushi> lol, which ones?
L851[13:57:49] <Shuudoushi> 911 turbos?
L852[13:57:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Pff, what do I know. I'm not a car girl :P
L853[13:58:12] <Shuudoushi> XD
L854[13:58:16] <DeanIsaKitty> But yeah, probably 911s
L855[13:58:35] <Shuudoushi> my car can out pace a 911 S, not sure about a 911 turbo though
L856[14:02:00] <Shuudoushi> I'm off, catch y'all later o/
L857[14:02:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Yes siemens, please throw random buzzwords like "Totally integrated automation" at me, it makes you look even more pathetic than usual. :D
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L860[14:09:21] * DeanIsaKitty pokes Turtle
L861[14:10:58] <Turtle> oh what is going on here with my connection
L862[14:11:02] <Turtle> also hi
L863[14:11:14] <DeanIsaKitty> hai ^^
L864[14:11:29] <gamax92> :P greaser|q
L865[14:11:34] <Turtle> Looks like I DC'd and joined one instead of spamming connects, right?
L866[14:11:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: Yep
L867[14:11:54] <Turtle> okay then it's good :p
L868[14:12:08] <gamax92> greaser|q: 65el02 emulator for MIPS arch?
L869[14:12:22] <greaser|q> gamax92: find a C implementation and you've got one already ;)
L870[14:12:26] <gamax92> greaser|q: okay
L871[14:12:29] <greaser|q> well ok then you need to link it with green.c
L872[14:12:38] <gamax92> greaser|q: http://bigfootinformatika.hu/65el02/
L873[14:13:49] <gamax92> I'm sure it'd have to be tweaked a bit but it's all C
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L875[14:16:40] <greaser|q> gamax92: i finally delivered: https://i.imgur.com/OLNwfGF.png
L876[14:17:04] <gamax92> oh :P
L877[14:17:24] <gamax92> yay :P
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L930[14:33:10] <^v> Oh noes! chaos split 3:
L931[14:33:19] <gamax92> oh noes
L932[14:34:28] <ping> oh noes! fu
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L972[14:34:38] zsh sets mode: +v on DeanIsaKitty
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L975[14:36:40] <gamax92> You gotta get out of there, it's not safe!
L976[14:37:15] <gamax92> greaser|q: where is labour and green again?
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L978[14:37:32] <greaser|q> labour.c is the kernelmode wrapper for newlib, green.c is the usermode wrapper
L979[14:37:40] <gamax92> "where"
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L981[14:40:36] <greaser|q> src/main/resources/
L982[14:40:39] <greaser|q> in ocmips
L983[14:40:45] <gamax92> so not mocha
L984[14:41:05] <gamax92> also doesn't that mean you're bundling it in the jar
L985[14:41:39] * Tiktalik waves at gamax92
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L987[14:41:58] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
L988[14:42:05] * gamax92 waves at Tiktalik
L989[14:42:12] <gamax92> :o
L990[14:43:50] <Kodos> x.x
L991[14:44:36] * DeanIsaKitty waves at Kodos
L992[14:45:23] <vifino> Wha? rule34 of me and Temia? o_O
L993[14:45:36] <gamax92> .... NOBODY SAID R34
L994[14:46:02] <vifino> Close nuff.
L995[14:46:07] <gamax92> I was gonna draw a friendly vifino petting a curled up Temia
L996[14:46:13] <gamax92> but then had no idea how to draw vifino
L997[14:46:58] <vifino> You draw a nice idiot that wears black with messed up hair and maybe cat ears or something
L998[14:47:24] <vifino> Ask Lizzy or DeanIsaKitty how to draw me
L999[14:47:48] <vifino> I'd definitly like me some art :D
L1000[14:47:54] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Draw a fat ugly cat. Just kidding. I have no idea how to describe looks.
L1001[14:48:06] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: ... Fat?
L1002[14:48:10] <vifino> Ugly?
L1003[14:48:13] <vifino> ._.
L1004[14:48:24] <gamax92> I know what vifino looks like but I don't have a drawing style
L1005[14:48:27] <vifino> I'm neither, you goofball. :<
L1006[14:48:39] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Draw a hideous skinny black hackly cat
L1007[14:49:11] <gamax92> Lizzy: how to draw vifino?
L1008[14:49:13] <vifino> Hideous? ._.
L1009[14:49:32] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Why do you say I'm ugly? ._.
L1010[14:50:11] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: I'm not saying your ugly. I'm just asking gamax92 to draw a hideous cat. :P
L1011[14:50:29] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: .-. why can't you say nice things about me?
L1012[14:50:50] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: I do all the times, you just don't listen :P
L1013[14:51:17] <vifino> hideous: extremely ugly; extremely unpleasant.
L1014[14:51:25] <vifino> That's not nice .-.
L1015[14:51:44] <alekso56> vifino: i got a letter saying that im a journey man in computers and stuff, what does that mean?
L1016[14:51:54] <vifino> You're an idiot, DeanIsaKitty .-.
L1017[14:52:08] <vifino> alekso56: I don't know.
L1018[14:52:54] <vifino> Away again.
L1019[14:53:06] <gamax92> I'm still going to be a considerate person and ask for Lizzy's input
L1020[14:53:39] * vifino messes up DeanIsaKitty's hair and leaves to continue being nice to people on this party
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L1022[14:53:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Not my hair! :<
L1023[14:54:35] <alekso56> o crap, i can charge people for stuff now? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman#Origin_of_the_title
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L1025[14:54:52] <gamax92> I'm imagining DeanIsaKitty as a super hero with the one weakness of messed up hair
L1026[14:54:56] <gamax92> :P
L1027[14:55:58] <alekso56> i have two hardrives, one with vital info on it, and one with no info on it, im going to copy one hdd over the other. how do i find out which one has the important data? D:
L1028[14:56:44] <vifino> gamax92: DeanIsaKitty is a hideous long person. <.<
L1029[14:56:56] <Dashkal> gamax92: Draw an annoyed adorable kitty with messed up hair.
L1030[14:57:01] <alekso56> buh my longcats
L1031[14:58:26] <vifino> Dashkal: That's an pretty accurate description of me. :D
L1032[14:58:38] <Dashkal> Wait, there are two of you?
L1033[14:58:41] <gamax92> XD
L1034[14:58:43] * Dashkal is just a bit more scared
L1035[14:59:21] <vifino> Dashkal: DeanIsaKitty and I are pretty alike.
L1036[14:59:34] * Dashkal is quite a bit more scared
L1037[15:00:25] <vifino> Good choice.
L1038[15:00:37] <Dashkal> Self preservation is important :P
L1039[15:00:43] <Dashkal> But I lack any
L1040[15:00:56] * Dashkal messes up both vifino and DeanIsaKitty's hair
L1041[15:01:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Not in psychological sense. vifino is fucked up in a different way
L1042[15:01:12] * DeanIsaKitty tears apart Dashkal's hand
L1043[15:01:16] <vifino> We're both fucked up, though.
L1044[15:01:16] <DeanIsaKitty> No! :<
L1045[15:01:22] * vifino pets DeanIsaKitty
L1046[15:01:37] * Dashkal completely rubs DeanIsaKitty's fur in the wrong direction with the bloddy stump
L1047[15:01:38] * vifino makes DeanIsaKitty's hair the way it was
L1048[15:01:43] <Dashkal> Sniped!
L1049[15:01:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: I hate you <.<
L1050[15:01:55] * Dashkal bleeds on DeanIsaKitty
L1051[15:01:56] <Dashkal> You did this
L1052[15:02:02] <DeanIsaKitty> You started this!
L1053[15:02:22] <alekso56> O_O
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L1055[15:02:33] <Dashkal> Oh, sorry *regenerates*
L1056[15:02:34] <DeanIsaKitty> alekso56: stay the fuck out of this.
L1057[15:02:47] <vifino> Though take back the ugly and fat claim, DeanIsaKitty :<
L1058[15:03:01] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: That wasn't about you you twat
L1059[15:03:13] <vifino> Okay then.
L1060[15:03:16] * Dashkal gets a confused look on his face
L1061[15:03:18] * vifino hugs DeanIsaKitty
L1062[15:03:24] * DeanIsaKitty hugs vifino
L1063[15:03:26] <Dashkal> Oh, ok then
L1064[15:03:55] <vifino> Seemed weird that DeanIsaKitty would insult me that way, anyways..
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L1067[15:04:15] <vifino> Hell, being insulted at all by her is something uncommon.
L1068[15:05:17] <Dashkal> I am reminded why I'm glad I disassociated from the goons...
L1069[15:06:29] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: I'm close to 6'2 btw
L1070[15:06:33] <g> I get insulted sometimes, I don't mind it
L1071[15:06:42] <gamax92> das tall
L1072[15:06:46] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Yeah, you suck though :P
L1073[15:06:56] <g> lol
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L1075[15:07:30] <g> I knew someone that used to routinely call me fat any time I was eating anything
L1076[15:07:38] <g> although she disappeared in a flood
L1077[15:07:40] <g> well, anyway
L1078[15:07:46] <gamax92> I'm 5'7
L1079[15:07:56] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: das tiny
L1080[15:08:01] <gamax92> My mother is 5'3
L1081[15:08:05] <g> I'm somewhere around 5'10
L1082[15:08:07] <g> I think
L1083[15:09:14] <gamax92> how the fuck, the measuring tape is stuck under the door
L1084[15:09:35] <g> you dun fucked up
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L1091[15:24:53] <Izaya> 189cm a year or two ago?
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L1094[15:38:15] <Forecaster> sugoi: Vexatos told me to inquire you about the "slot" value in peripherals
L1095[15:38:53] <gamax92> two cards marked as 2GB, both are actually under 2GB and both don't store the same number of bytes
L1096[15:38:58] <gamax92> yay manufacturers
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L1098[15:44:37] <Lizzy> "<gamax92> Lizzy: how to draw vifino?" cute and fluffy
L1099[15:45:30] <vifino> :)
L1100[15:46:39] <gamax92> ...oh
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L1102[15:56:47] <CompanionCube> gamax92, the joys of GB/GiB
L1103[15:57:01] <gamax92> yup
L1104[15:57:11] * Lizzy prods Temia
L1105[15:58:04] <DeanIsaKitty> https://twitter.com/voxel/status/586452796125265921 XD
L1106[15:58:05] <MichiBot> Fri Apr 10 03:56:57 CDT 2015 @voxel: Not going to lie, pretty excited about the highlighted section of this.
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L1108[15:58:35] <Lizzy> lol
L1109[16:04:13] <Saphira> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7HgqXWMpX4
L1110[16:04:15] <MichiBot> Saphira: Funny and cute ferret videos compilation | length: 5m 56s | Likes: 9150 Dislikes: 417 Views: 2449903 | by Tiger FurryEntertainment
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L1115[16:31:41] * Temia meep
L1116[16:31:46] <Temia> Sorry, just got back. What's up, Lizzy?
L1117[16:31:59] <Forecaster> how do you tell the bot to throw text at someone when they re-appear?
L1118[16:32:05] * DeanIsaKitty throws a warm blanket over Temia
L1119[16:32:07] <Lizzy> Forecaster, %tell
L1120[16:32:23] <Forecaster> okay good
L1121[16:32:32] <Lizzy> Temia, one of your players said your server died, i was going to restart it but i didn't know what folder it was in
L1122[16:32:46] <Forecaster> I might have words for Vex soon, depending on how his fixes are working
L1123[16:32:57] <Lizzy> ?
L1124[16:33:04] <Forecaster> testing computronics stuff
L1125[16:34:01] <Temia> Ah, my apologies
L1126[16:34:13] <Temia> The startup script was estcraftEternal/server.sh
L1127[16:34:23] <Lizzy> okay, want me to start it?
L1128[16:35:17] <Lizzy> Temia, ^
L1129[16:41:11] <Forecaster> hm, I have a component that has a table named "aspects table" with a space in it
L1130[16:41:18] <Forecaster> how do I iterate over that?
L1131[16:44:24] <Forecaster> I want to do "for k,v in pairs(component.digital_controller_box["aspects table"]) do print(k,v) end" but that doesn't work
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L1134[16:55:39] <gamax92> greaser|q: you there?
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L1136[17:00:34] <gamax92> wow, that's an interesting component interface
L1137[17:01:49] <Forecaster> I just want to know how to refer to a field with a space in the name >:
L1138[17:02:10] <gamax92> Forecaster: ["field with spaces"]
L1139[17:02:30] <Forecaster> I tried that
L1140[17:02:32] <Forecaster> it doesn't work
L1141[17:02:38] <gamax92> #lua bad_tbl={["field with spaces"]=4}, return bad_tbl["field with spaces"]
L1142[17:02:38] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near 'return'
L1143[17:02:41] <Forecaster> it gets nil
L1144[17:02:44] <gamax92> #lua bad_tbl={["field with spaces"]=4} return bad_tbl["field with spaces"]
L1145[17:02:44] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4
L1146[17:03:04] <gamax92> Forecaster: it does and that's how you do it, maybe you have the wrong key name or it's underscores?
L1147[17:03:23] <Forecaster> it's not an underscore, I've tried that
L1148[17:03:33] <Forecaster> and the key is listed as "aspect table"
L1149[17:03:58] <gamax92> aspect or aspects
L1150[17:04:52] <Forecaster> aspects
L1151[17:04:53] <gamax92> because if it's aspects, you could just seeing a tab wrong, since tabs align to 8 spaces and aspects is 7 characters, so it looks like it says "aspects table"
L1152[17:05:12] <gamax92> sure it's not just aspects?
L1153[17:05:20] <Forecaster> oh
L1154[17:05:22] <Forecaster> right...
L1155[17:05:30] <Forecaster> yeah that's got to be it
L1156[17:05:31] <Forecaster> xD
L1157[17:05:46] <Forecaster> yeah it was
L1158[17:06:05] <Forecaster> why can't it just align all of them at the same level >:
L1159[17:06:10] <Forecaster> grmbl
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L1162[17:13:27] <gamax92> %tell greaser|q poke gamax92 when you get back.
L1163[17:13:28] <MichiBot> gamax92: greaser|q will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1165[17:21:57] <Forecaster> what the heck
L1166[17:22:03] <Forecaster> my screen died
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L1168[17:23:31] <Forecaster> replacing it fixed it...
L1169[17:23:33] <Forecaster> weird
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L1171[17:25:35] <Kodos> Did it get a redstone signal by chance?
L1172[17:25:50] <Forecaster> no
L1173[17:25:59] <Forecaster> unless the computer output a redstone signal...
L1174[17:26:11] <Forecaster> OH!
L1175[17:26:19] <Forecaster> that's why the redstone block wasn't working
L1176[17:26:26] <Forecaster> there was a redstone card in the computer...
L1177[17:26:30] <Kodos> Lol
L1178[17:26:30] <Forecaster> >_<
L1179[17:26:41] <Kodos> Redstone signals will turn a screen on/off
L1180[17:26:45] <Kodos> You can use that to save energy
L1181[17:26:55] <Forecaster> I didn't know that
L1182[17:27:01] <Kodos> Since a screen uses more energy depending on the amount of characters being displayed
L1183[17:31:46] <g> that's probably one of the most unrealistic thing oc does
L1184[17:31:47] <g> :P
L1185[17:31:53] <g> things*
L1186[17:32:06] <Turtle> ironicly, not anymore
L1187[17:32:12] <gamax92> AMOLED
L1188[17:32:16] <Turtle> ^ :p
L1189[17:32:16] <Forecaster> nevermind nanobots or flying robots :P
L1190[17:32:23] <g> drones are a thing
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L1192[17:32:27] <g> nanomachines are kind of a thing
L1193[17:32:27] <g> lol
L1194[17:32:37] <gamax92> and AMOLED screens are a thing
L1195[17:32:42] <g> also, there are screens that actually turn off the pixels now?
L1196[17:32:44] <g> neat
L1197[17:32:48] <Turtle> Yep, amoled
L1198[17:33:00] <Forecaster> huh?
L1199[17:33:05] <Forecaster> there is?
L1200[17:33:15] <Turtle> Galaxy S7 can disable certain pixels, lighting up only some
L1201[17:33:24] <g> that's pretty neat
L1202[17:33:25] <Turtle> for things like showing time
L1203[17:33:28] <Forecaster> oh, in reality
L1204[17:33:30] <Forecaster> :P
L1205[17:33:34] <Turtle> ya, in reality
L1206[17:33:35] <Forecaster> yes
L1207[17:33:38] <Turtle> which is fairly new
L1208[17:33:44] <g> oh, that's why the "now" air gesture display thing on the note 3 doesn't suck juice
L1209[17:35:28] <Turtle> but yeah, S7 will have an always-on clock on the display to save battery displaying the entire lockscreen in bursts
L1210[17:37:03] <gamax92> Dark themes :>
L1211[17:37:06] <g> it's a smart idea
L1212[17:37:10] <gamax92> save your eyes and your battery
L1213[17:37:14] <g> although honestly my note 3 lasts more than 24h with constant use
L1214[17:37:18] <g> (though I'm using greenify)
L1215[17:37:29] <Izaya> Is it OLED?
L1216[17:37:49] <g> 1080p Super AMOLED
L1217[17:38:05] <Izaya> IIRC they only use power when turned on
L1218[17:38:07] <g> 5.7”
L1219[17:38:24] <Izaya> Over 5" becomes impractical IMO
L1220[17:38:32] <g> I'd rather it was bigger
L1221[17:38:36] <g> I like big devices
L1222[17:38:43] <g> I have a 21-inch tablet in the kitchen
L1223[17:38:54] <Izaya> Damn
L1224[17:39:06] <Izaya> still, I like my phone to fit in my pocket
L1225[17:39:07] <g> I mean I don't carry that everywhere, but yknow
L1226[17:39:08] <g> :P
L1227[17:39:12] <g> It fits in my pockets
L1228[17:39:15] <g> the note, I mean
L1229[17:39:49] <`-`> It's sad. My watch now has a later version of android than my watch
L1230[17:39:52] <Izaya> I once carried a 7" tablet around
L1231[17:40:13] <g> I have a bricked note 10.1 around here somewhere
L1232[17:40:16] <Forecaster> you have two watches?
L1233[17:40:23] <vifino> `-`: Your watch has a later version of android than your watch?
L1234[17:40:26] <vifino> Sense much?
L1235[17:40:27] <`-`> s/watch/phone
L1236[17:40:27] <MichiBot> <vifino> `-`: Your phone has a later version of android than your watch?
L1237[17:40:29] <g> which is.. surprise surprise, 10.1 inches
L1238[17:40:30] <`-`> I'm tried
L1239[17:40:34] <`-`> I had a long day
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L1241[17:40:49] <g> I do carry a messenger bag everywhere though
L1242[17:40:50] <vifino> lolk
L1243[17:41:15] <Izaya> oversized laptop bag ftw
L1244[17:41:17] <Forecaster> not sure what that has to do with anything?
L1245[17:41:18] <Forecaster> :P
L1246[17:41:28] <`-`> Plus Motorola is giving out bootloader unlock codes for the Moto X 2014 on Verizon, but not the Moto X 2013 on Verizon
L1247[17:41:30] <g> I decided to be an annoying brony
L1248[17:41:32] <`-`> I hate verizon
L1249[17:41:33] <g> so a laptop bag wouldn't do
L1250[17:41:34] <g> :P
L1251[17:42:01] <g> https://www.dropbox.com/s/03tkgk5vdzkd2j6/IMG_20131021_180241.jpg?dl=0
L1252[17:42:12] <Izaya> I can get a bootloader unlock code for my Moto G3 but it voids the warranty so
L1253[17:42:24] <g> yes, pretty much any device modding does
L1254[17:42:33] <g> rooting, custom roms, custom recovery, whatever
L1255[17:42:41] <`-`> I should see if I can get an unlock code for my 2013 again... maybe something changed
L1256[17:42:46] <g> totally worth it though, if you're careful enough
L1257[17:42:51] <`-`> g, why
L1258[17:42:52] <g> and there's always triangle away
L1259[17:42:58] <g> `-`, why what?
L1260[17:43:04] <`-`> g, bag why
L1261[17:43:05] <Izaya> As such, I'm waiting until 27 Dec until I unlock it
L1262[17:43:08] <g> why not?
L1263[17:43:20] <g> I have several brony-related items, this is the least of anyone's worries
L1264[17:43:22] <g> :P
L1265[17:43:25] <`-`> .-.
L1266[17:43:33] <`-`> Aaaaaaaaanyways
L1267[17:43:33] <vifino> g: newer samsungs have bootloader fuses which blow and can't be reset afaik
L1268[17:43:45] <g> vifino, such as the s6? hmm
L1269[17:43:46] <vifino> note 3+ have this and newer samsungs, too
L1270[17:43:50] <`-`> All phones from 2012 onward have bootloader fuses
L1271[17:43:55] <g> No, you can flash the bootloader on note 3
L1272[17:44:01] <vifino> yes, you can.
L1273[17:44:07] <vifino> but it is marked as flashed.
L1274[17:44:24] <vifino> nothing you can reset software wise.
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L1276[17:44:36] <g> ah, I see
L1277[17:44:49] <alekso56> i just desolder the fuses .-.
L1278[17:44:50] <Izaya> Does it make a popping noise?
L1279[17:45:01] <`-`> alekso56: But then they'll know you opened the phone
L1280[17:45:12] <alekso56> i doubt they will.
L1281[17:45:33] <Izaya> I just realised
L1282[17:46:01] <Izaya> I can't take a picture of the inside of my phone
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L1284[17:46:20] <g> ..haha
L1285[17:46:29] <alekso56> you don't have a camera?
L1286[17:46:35] <g> it's in his/her phone
L1287[17:46:35] <g> xD
L1288[17:46:47] <Izaya> well I have my old phone
L1289[17:46:53] <alekso56> so you don't have a camera.
L1290[17:46:55] <DeanIsaKitty> g: `their` for gender-neutral pronouns :P
L1291[17:46:59] <Forecaster> %tell Vexatos everything seems to work fine! https://youtu.be/oAjtKJCqRGo
L1292[17:47:00] <Izaya> but it's at home
L1293[17:47:00] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Vexatos will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1294[17:47:06] <Izaya> and I'm playing RL
L1295[17:47:16] <g> DeanIsaKitty: I'm being vague rather than politically correct in this case :P
L1296[17:47:30] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Oh, then he :P
L1297[17:47:38] <g> ah, okay, lol
L1298[17:47:53] <g> Forecaster: Great succes!?
L1299[17:47:56] <g> success*
L1300[17:48:02] <Forecaster> Huge!
L1301[17:48:10] <g> oh god what
L1302[17:48:26] <g> xD
L1303[17:48:27] <Forecaster> Huge success.
L1304[17:48:33] <g> that's great, lol
L1305[17:48:46] <Forecaster> well, everyone died in the race, but still
L1306[17:48:55] <g> pfft, every war has casualties
L1307[17:49:39] <g> anyway yeah, I have one of those magnetic cases
L1308[17:49:41] <g> for the note 3
L1309[17:49:47] <g> so the screen is never on when I can't see it
L1310[17:50:30] <Forecaster> my case isn't magnetic, but I have an app that turns the screen off when some sensor on the front is covered
L1311[17:50:38] <alekso56> Forecaster: i see you have systematically made a machine that purges unwanted plebs.
L1312[17:50:44] <Aedda> Anyone know of a way to make a 3d printed object act solid (non-glass)? e.g. allow attaching levers, torches, or passing redstone over?
L1313[17:50:46] <alekso56> ..nice.
L1314[17:51:07] <`-`> Aedda: I think the entire side that you want solid needs to be filled
L1315[17:51:10] <Izaya> I wish phones had buttons on the side so I could do input with the 3 fingers I use to hold it
L1316[17:51:16] <Forecaster> alekso56: it's enderman inspected and approved
L1317[17:51:23] <g> Forecaster: yeah, that's nice too
L1318[17:51:25] <`-`> Thats how it was some time ago, I believe
L1319[17:51:27] <Aedda> `-`: Oh, I will try that, thanks
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L1321[17:51:40] <g> the note 3 has like a separate sensor for light and.. gestures?
L1322[17:51:50] <g> there's like a.. gesture.. sensor next to the usual light sensor
L1323[17:51:57] <g> which lets you do hand gestures in midair
L1324[17:52:03] <g> it sounds unweildy as hell but it works nicely
L1325[17:52:22] <`-`> It's probably an IR sensor matrix camera thing maybe
L1326[17:52:23] <Forecaster> doing hand gestures in other mediums vary in difficulty
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L1328[17:52:38] <Aedda> `-`: That actually worked, right on!
L1329[17:52:46] <g> haha, water gestures
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L1331[17:52:51] * g sighs, unzips
L1332[17:53:51] <gamax92> untbz2
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L1336[18:02:24] <gamax92> g: heh, I found an old program of mine called parrot, guess what it does
L1337[18:05:38] <g> hmm :P
L1338[18:05:43] * g force-feeds gamax92 crackers
L1339[18:06:04] <gamax92> wha no
L1340[18:07:38] * vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed
L1341[18:07:50] * Lizzy falls asleep on vifino
L1342[18:07:56] <vifino> :)
L1343[18:08:45] <gamax92> g: it just opens and configures /dev/dsp to a certain rate, and then proceeds to endlessly shove /dev/stdin into /dev/dsp, while showing how many bytes (and a hh:mm:ss counter) have been passed through
L1344[18:09:03] <g> hah, I see
L1345[18:09:18] <`-`> gamax92: I think I remember the day you were making that... you were yelling about ioctl on /dev/dsp or something :P
L1346[18:09:28] <gamax92> shhhh
L1347[18:10:11] <vifino> wow, such oss much dislike
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L1349[18:12:06] <gamax92> vifino: what would you prefer instead
L1350[18:12:12] <vifino> JACK!
L1351[18:12:40] <gamax92> vifino: and what does JACK run on top of? ;)
L1352[18:12:51] <Dashkal> alsa
L1353[18:12:51] <vifino> alsa
L1354[18:13:00] <gamax92> Dashkal wins!
L1355[18:13:07] <vifino> not on my screen
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L1357[18:13:55] <Izaya> I'm going to use this opportunity to state my hatred of pulse
L1358[18:14:03] <vifino> Same.
L1359[18:14:11] <vifino> JACK masterrace, fuck pulse.
L1360[18:14:15] <Dashkal> I find myself missing pulse when I don't have it.
L1361[18:14:23] <Dashkal> But I also cba to learn jack
L1362[18:15:02] <vifino> lol
L1363[18:15:16] <Izaya> ALSA lets me use multiple programs with sound at once
L1364[18:15:18] <vifino> You set up jack once and it Just Works(tm)
L1365[18:15:25] <vifino> Izaya: dmix sucks.
L1366[18:15:36] <gamax92> ALSA does for me too, but I'm not using dmix
L1367[18:15:47] <vifino> gamax92: but you have a decent sound card .-.
L1368[18:15:48] <Temia> Ah, sorry, Lizzy
L1369[18:15:51] <Temia> Didn't see the ping.
L1370[18:15:54] <Izaya> vifino: hardware mixer
L1371[18:15:59] <vifino> .---.
L1372[18:16:03] <Temia> And you're away now so I guess it's moot but yeah I started it back up already now that I'm home .-.
L1373[18:16:20] <Izaya> Vague advantage of having gaming hardware
L1374[18:16:20] <ping> Temia, oh i see how it is
L1375[18:16:23] <ping> just ignore me like
L1376[18:16:27] <ping> well you know what
L1377[18:16:29] <ping> FUCK YOU
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L1379[18:16:38] <Temia> :c
L1380[18:16:40] * Temia sadmoo.
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L1382[18:16:43] zsh sets mode: +v on ping
L1383[18:16:46] <ping> jkjk
L1384[18:16:47] <ping> <3
L1385[18:16:50] <Temia> :C
L1386[18:16:52] * Temia sadmoos at!
L1387[18:16:56] <vifino> ping: Get out.
L1388[18:17:10] * gamax92 removes ping's batteries and puts back on the shelf
L1389[18:17:23] <vifino> Well done, gamax92.
L1390[18:17:26] <Lucca> a small loan of a million ping s
L1391[18:17:27] * vifino gives gamax92 a cookie
L1392[18:18:19] <gamax92> :D!
L1393[18:18:29] * gamax92 puts the cookie on the fridge owo
L1394[18:18:36] <vifino> :3
L1395[18:19:32] <gamax92> Izaya: how many streams can your card do with ALSA?
L1396[18:19:47] <Izaya> Haven't done testing
L1397[18:20:11] <Izaya> Can mumble, mpd and minecraft so
L1398[18:20:21] <vifino> Izaya: aplay -l
L1399[18:20:22] <gamax92> you don't need to test it ... some command in alsa that I forget which specifically tells you how many it supports
L1400[18:20:36] <Izaya> Will test when I get home
L1401[18:20:40] <vifino> gamax92: ninja'd you :D
L1402[18:20:42] <gamax92> oh right, subdevices
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L1404[18:21:54] <`-`> If there were a million pings in the world, would you kill one because they're so annoying? :>
L1405[18:22:07] <vifino> `-`: I'd cill every single one.
L1406[18:22:10] <vifino> kill*
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L1408[18:23:13] <gamax92> I'd sell every single one and make a small loan of a million dollars
L1409[18:23:19] <DeanIsaKitty> `-`: Oh come on, ping isn't *that* bad
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L1412[18:24:51] <`-`> DeanIsaKitty: Yes, ping is that bad
L1413[18:24:58] <`-`> He times out all your connections :<
L1414[18:25:20] <`-`> Remote host is also a meanie
L1415[18:25:52] <gamax92> I don't blame him, he has to deal with everyone shouting PING :LAG98394 at him, sometimes you just get tired of all the shit and don't PONG back
L1416[18:25:52] <Dashkal> Now that's unfair. That's not ping's fault. It's his lazy cousin pong not doing his.
L1417[18:26:23] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: ping is exactly that bad.
L1418[18:26:40] <ping> DeanIsaKitty, vifino and `-` are the people that have to deal with my shit the most
L1419[18:26:42] <vifino> I'm not saying I don't like him, cause I do.
L1420[18:26:44] <ping> you cant say im not that bad
L1421[18:27:09] <vifino> ping: You are assisting in an argument against yourself?
L1422[18:27:14] <DeanIsaKitty> ping: You're probably a huge asshole but I don't know you so I'll say you're not :P
L1423[18:27:14] <vifino> Okay then.
L1424[18:27:31] <ping> "<DeanIsaKitty> ping: You're probably a huge asshole" no im just fucking annoying sometimes
L1425[18:27:43] <vifino> "sometimes"
L1426[18:27:47] <ping> "sometimes"
L1427[18:27:57] <`-`> "striped sweater"
L1428[18:28:04] <`-`> "all the tiiiiiiiiime"
L1429[18:28:08] <vifino> "quoting things that nobody said"
L1430[18:28:56] <gamax92> hehe
L1431[18:29:06] <`-`> > when the text is green
L1432[18:29:22] <vifino> >when it isn't
L1433[18:29:37] <gamax92> WHEN YOU DUN FUCKED UP
L1434[18:29:55] <`-`> when the text is being sucked into a fancy tornado ~\/~
L1435[18:29:56] <vifino> >when people say you dun fucked up
L1436[18:30:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Calm the fuck down everybody.
L1437[18:30:21] <vifino> >no mam i am not on drugs thank you
L1438[18:30:25] <`-`> when you don't give a fuck
L1439[18:30:54] * gamax92 calm
L1440[18:30:55] <g> rainbow
L1441[18:31:14] <vifino> >when people say quoting is not an art
L1442[18:31:35] <Dashkal> note to self, adjust terminal colors
L1443[18:31:52] <g> %tell Dashkal terminal colours :u
L1444[18:31:52] <MichiBot> g: Dashkal will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1445[18:31:58] <Dashkal> >.>
L1446[18:32:11] <vifino> note to self, get 16 million colors in terminal
L1447[18:32:21] <vifino> %tell vifino you suck.
L1448[18:32:22] <MichiBot> vifino: vifino will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1449[18:32:30] <Dashkal> Oh I have plenty. I just want ansi blue to be a lot brighter than it tends to be
L1450[18:32:51] <vifino> Dashkal: It's navy blue. .-.
L1451[18:32:56] <Dashkal> mmm, set only to 256 mode
L1452[18:33:08] <vifino> Duh. Same here.
L1453[18:33:11] <Dashkal> ANSI Blue
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L1458[18:44:48] <gamax92> ~w table.concat
L1459[18:44:49] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-table.concat
L1460[18:51:41] <gamax92> vifino: sentence generators :3
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L1462[18:53:58] <vifino> yaay
L1463[18:55:15] <gamax92> "<vifino> gamax92 wii edition on my raspi :3"
L1464[18:55:46] <vifino> Yes.
L1465[18:56:03] <gamax92> "<vifino> o/ Sangar doesn't allow USB Passthru, VMWare has me already downloaded 25gb!"
L1466[18:56:18] <vifino> Yes.
L1467[18:57:36] <gamax92> "<Mimiru> Also.. I told it should, yes.. Cause THAT does it applies the turbines to near 5 minutes, and 10"
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L1469[18:58:56] <gamax92> "<Mimiru> Not sure you'll end up with them. *MY* docs"
L1470[19:02:07] <gamax92> "<vifino> gamax92: I work on a 400mhz board with 400mhz" :P
L1471[19:02:27] <vifino> Yes.
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L1473[19:02:51] <`-`> gamax92: Me next
L1474[19:02:56] <gamax92> okay
L1475[19:02:58] <`-`> ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L1476[19:03:21] <vifino> gamax92: I changed the virtual boot drive from sata to virtio in my windows vm for gaming :D
L1477[19:03:57] <gamax92> :3
L1478[19:04:00] <gamax92> virtio is nice
L1479[19:04:08] <vifino> Yep!
L1480[19:04:14] <vifino> Performance!!!
L1481[19:04:24] <`-`> !!!
L1482[19:04:49] <vifino> I'm currently trying to change the networking to a bridge and using vhost-net for moar performancies.
L1483[19:04:53] <gamax92> "<`_`> shoot gamax92 is a reference image on the actual youtube site on another fail compression that he's doing it in gradients, they were drugs"
L1484[19:05:05] <`-`> Lovely
L1485[19:05:45] <vifino> `-` on drugs, #confirmed
L1486[19:06:26] <gamax92> ... oops.
L1487[19:06:32] <gamax92> I named your file incorrectly.
L1488[19:08:27] <gamax92> "<`-`> I have no fucking work when people get DOWN MR KODOS got a moist enough space does Unity and 0"
L1489[19:08:42] <`-`> XD
L1490[19:10:11] *** g is now known as gAway2002
L1491[19:12:17] <Kodos> wat
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L1493[19:16:32] <Mimiru> o_O
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L1495[19:47:03] * Antheus explodes
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L1498[20:04:36] <vifino> #p
L1499[20:04:37] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.521903723 Seconds passed.
L1500[20:04:46] <vifino> Huh, it's alive.
L1501[20:04:48] <vifino> Interesting.
L1502[20:05:00] <vifino> #>> raise "waaat"
L1503[20:05:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > waaat
L1504[20:05:04] <vifino> ¬_¬
L1505[20:05:22] <vifino> #>> nil.do_nothing
L1506[20:05:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > undefined method `do_nothing' for nil:NilClass
L1507[20:05:28] <vifino> Pfft. Boring.
L1508[20:05:33] <vifino> Where is the (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ library.
L1509[20:05:50] <vifino> #>> require 'table_flip'
L1510[20:05:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > cannot load such file -- table_flip
L1511[20:05:54] <vifino> :(
L1512[20:05:58] <vifino> #>> require 'table_flipper'
L1513[20:05:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > true
L1514[20:06:01] <vifino> :D
L1515[20:06:05] <vifino> #>> nil.do_nothing
L1516[20:06:06] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ : undefined method `do_nothing' for nil:NilClass
L1517[20:06:08] <vifino> \o/
L1518[20:11:43] <vifino> %addquote
L1519[20:12:14] <vifino> %addquote vifino I want to put a flute in someone's nose and play them like a doodlesack.
L1520[20:12:15] <MichiBot> vifino: Quote added at id: 229500
L1521[20:12:25] <vifino> That's alots(tm) of quotes.
L1522[20:12:26] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
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L1524[20:19:41] <Saphira> Mimiru
L1525[20:20:00] <Saphira> wth is wrong with shocky? he just said something
L1526[20:24:43] * ocdoc pets Saphira
L1527[20:25:28] * Saphira roasts marshmellow
L1528[20:26:07] <ocdoc> I am not a marshmallow! >~<
L1529[20:27:12] * Saphira coveres you in ice
L1530[20:27:59] * ocdoc chills
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L1532[20:46:16] <greaser|q> gamax92: poke
L1533[20:46:23] <gamax92> ohai
L1534[20:46:29] <greaser|q> well that was quick
L1535[20:46:50] <gamax92> greaser|q: I wanted to get your input about doing component access from something like a 6502
L1536[20:47:00] <greaser|q> def flip_table(t): return t[::-1]
L1537[20:47:37] <greaser|q> ok, if you want to do component access there's a few ways of doing it, you could steal what i use
L1538[20:48:40] <sugoi> gamax92: my term is done, did you have a final opinion on how to update your irc client?
L1539[20:49:06] <sugoi> right now, my solution for you would be term.read({nowrap=true})
L1540[20:49:22] <gamax92> sugoi: is it possible for me to detect openos 1.6 so that I don't break 1.5 seeing as it's still the default?
L1541[20:49:24] <sugoi> and if you have a history object, you can still use it: history.nowrap=true;term.read(history)
L1542[20:49:25] <greaser|q> another approach is to possibly have a method signature, set a pointer to that thing, then set a pointer to the arg table
L1543[20:49:43] <sugoi> gamax92: ^ does that work? i was hoping this solution would be backward compat
L1544[20:49:52] <sugoi> as history.nowrap=true would be an ignored field
L1545[20:50:07] <gamax92> wow, clever.
L1546[20:50:14] * sugoi blushes
L1547[20:50:16] <gamax92> lemme check.
L1548[20:50:49] <greaser|q> oh hey it's sugoi... did you see that i added virtual memory support to ocmips and managed to boot the ~350KB of lua 5.3.2 within 48KB of pages?
L1549[20:51:01] <gamax92> sugoi: yeah that should work fine
L1550[20:51:19] <gamax92> I don't do anything special with the history table except give it to term.read
L1551[20:51:21] <greaser|q> (it takes 6 seconds to boot off a floppy with a suitable amount of RAM, and on T1 ram it takes 19 minutes)
L1552[20:51:24] <sugoi> btw, as for version check, yes: _G._OSVERSION=="OpenOS 1.6"
L1553[20:51:30] <sugoi> but i'd hope we never ever need to use that :)
L1554[20:51:42] <gamax92> I might, considering I'm hacky using term.read
L1555[20:51:43] <sugoi> greaser|q: haha, that is so awesome
L1556[20:52:03] <greaser|q> i also got gamax to write me a brainfuck interpreter in C and got the kernel to load that
L1557[20:52:10] <sugoi> greaser|q: haha, wow!
L1558[20:52:12] <greaser|q> then stole the hello world program he had in there and wrote a brainfuck interpreter in lua
L1559[20:52:21] <sugoi> :/
L1560[20:52:24] <gamax92> :/
L1561[20:53:07] <greaser|q> so it was brainfuck running on Lua running on mocha (my kernel) running on MIPS running in MineCraft running on Java running on Linux running on an x86_64 CPU
L1562[20:53:22] <gamax92> Running in qemu
L1563[20:53:23] <sugoi> haha, that's crazy twisted
L1564[20:53:35] <greaser|q> at least with brainfuck i had the decency to run it atop mocha so you still get a lot of layers of abstraction
L1565[20:53:43] <greaser|q> mocha definitely needs its own libc though
L1566[20:53:51] <sugoi> gamax92: ok, cool -- i'm doing some more testing, and finalizing my thoughts on the api i made...just some tidy-up work
L1567[20:53:58] <sugoi> but i'm "done", it works and stuff
L1568[20:54:11] <sugoi> in fact, the widechar support i made is not only better than previous term code
L1569[20:54:21] <sugoi> but it is more solid than my putty window support
L1570[20:54:24] <gamax92> well saying that isn't really too impressive
L1571[20:54:32] <gamax92> the previous widechar support is garbage
L1572[20:54:33] <gamax92> :P
L1573[20:54:35] <sugoi> :)
L1574[20:54:40] <sugoi> well it should be awesome now
L1575[20:55:11] <sugoi> i hope to make the PR tonight
L1576[20:55:40] <sugoi> i checked all the code in OpenPrograms, the term usage is rather simple
L1577[20:55:55] <gamax92> except for mine, right? :P
L1578[20:55:56] <sugoi> so far, your irc client is the only special case i could ifind
L1579[20:55:58] <sugoi> yes
L1580[20:55:59] <sugoi> :)
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L1582[20:56:51] <sugoi> mpmxyz wrote the multi term additions, i wrote a prototype how to make it work now, without hijacking term code: https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/issues/1
L1583[20:57:00] <sugoi> i hope he reviews it and considers making a new /lib/multiterm
L1584[20:57:19] <sugoi> also, that solution rocks -- it's actually a multi-process prototype
L1585[20:57:27] <sugoi> leveraging the /lib/pipes code i wrote for popen
L1586[20:58:06] <gamax92> sugoi: but how does T1 look
L1587[20:58:11] <sugoi> 30k free
L1588[20:58:47] <gamax92> sugoi: heh, where can I get the latest openos 1.6, want to test something
L1589[20:58:58] <sugoi> with the new term?
L1590[20:59:07] <sugoi> because that's not PR'd even
L1591[20:59:10] <greaser|q> i really should port openos to C
L1592[20:59:12] <gamax92> ahh
L1593[20:59:17] <gamax92> sugoi: no with that machine.lua hack
L1594[20:59:36] <sugoi> https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/tree/next-term <- my branch for the "next-term"
L1595[20:59:42] <sugoi> um
L1596[20:59:49] <sugoi> ok sec
L1597[21:01:23] <greaser|q> actually yeah, if i can port the openos libs to C i can compile it with liblua.a and then all the stuff written in C will use virtual memory
L1598[21:02:00] <greaser|q> read-only disk-backed virtual memory, the best kind of virtual memory as you can just free it at will to make space for more stuff
L1599[21:02:00] <sugoi> it is somewhere here http://ci.cil.li/
L1600[21:02:06] <sugoi> but i forget, and i have to go afk for a min
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L1603[21:20:49] <gamax92> !
L1604[21:20:58] <gamax92> greaser|q: is it possible to run endoh1?
L1605[21:21:49] <Xal> hey how is the MIPS arch going greaser|q
L1606[21:25:13] <Saphira> !cookie
L1607[21:25:15] <Saphira> aw
L1608[21:25:20] <Saphira> no cookie command
L1609[21:25:52] * ocdoc takes gamax92's cookie and gives to Saphira
L1610[21:26:13] * Saphira looks at ocdoc with an evil face
L1611[21:27:12] <gamax92> hey!
L1612[21:33:01] <CompanionCube> greaser|q, so basically anything that can be run in C and doesn't need a libc can now be ran on the MIPS arch?
L1613[21:33:41] <gamax92> what? I though we were using newlib
L1614[21:34:26] * CompanionCube knows practically nothing
L1615[21:35:13] * ocdoc wonders why Saphira is being evil
L1616[21:35:25] * Saphira eats cookie
L1617[21:35:32] * Saphira turns into a ferret
L1618[21:35:41] <ocdoc> :D
L1619[21:35:52] <`-`> gamax92: It is using newlib
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L1621[21:36:26] <gamax92> `-`: what are you using
L1622[21:36:30] <`-`> gamax92: newlib
L1623[21:36:41] <gamax92> `-`: what do you want to use?
L1624[21:36:44] <`-`> I did just take devkitARM and stuff
L1625[21:36:53] <`-`> gamax92: What do you mean
L1626[21:37:07] <gamax92> `-`: is there an alternative libc that you'd rather have instead?
L1627[21:37:25] <`-`> Nope
L1628[21:37:31] <`-`> glibc has too many bugs
L1629[21:37:42] <`-`> bionic sucks
L1630[21:37:43] <gamax92> glibc isn't the only alternative ...
L1631[21:39:04] <Saphira> wtf is this image
L1632[21:39:06] <Saphira> http://i.imgur.com/Zr3ge2N.gif
L1633[21:39:42] <gamax92> XD
L1634[21:39:44] <gamax92> that one
L1635[21:39:53] * Saphira dies from laughing
L1636[21:40:04] <gamax92> it's a machine that's supposed to feed you snacks
L1637[21:40:23] <Saphira> but instead. kills you
L1638[21:42:12] <sugoi> gamax92: back now, you probably figured it out by now, but here http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-dev-MC1.7.10/
L1639[21:42:16] <sugoi> those are the 1.6 builds
L1640[21:42:27] <gamax92> sugoi: but are they better memory wise
L1641[21:42:34] <gamax92> or is that not pr'd
L1642[21:42:50] <sugoi> those have OpenOS 1.6 with everything but my new term
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L1644[21:43:02] <sugoi> so, still better memory wise, but my new term daves another 20k
L1645[21:43:33] <sugoi> or, you could drop loot/OpenOS from my next-term branch if you wanted to
L1646[21:44:00] <gamax92> okay
L1647[21:44:40] <sugoi> daves? :) ha, saves*
L1648[21:44:46] <greaser|q> CompanionCube: anything that can be run in C and *does* need a libc can plausibly be run
L1649[21:45:11] <greaser|q> musl's a plausible alternative but i need to get my head around making it build
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L1651[21:48:24] <Saphira> death by machines
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L1653[21:49:45] <greaser|q> ...why the fuck does it need _impure_ptr and __errno i fucking UNDEFED ERRNO
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L1656[21:54:25] <greaser|q> aaand with that shit sorted out i can now focus on, erm... printf
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L1658[21:56:48] <gamax92> #lua 1919-1870
L1659[21:56:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 49
L1660[21:56:59] <Kodos> wat
L1661[21:58:45] <gamax92> sugoi: btw, ^C is not exiting the lua prompt anymore
L1662[21:59:08] <AlissaSquared> doube tap
L1663[21:59:10] <sugoi> ^d -- didn't know ^c did as well
L1664[21:59:10] <AlissaSquared> oh wait this is #oc
L1665[21:59:20] <AlissaSquared> sugoi: ^d is EOF
L1666[21:59:22] <gamax92> sugoi: it says it when you start up lua :P
L1667[21:59:26] <AlissaSquared> ^c is interrupt
L1668[21:59:34] <sugoi> i know what ^c is :)
L1669[21:59:43] <greaser|q> ^z
L1670[21:59:48] <sugoi> but ^d also ends /bin/lua, even in openos 1.5
L1671[21:59:50] <greaser|q> actually we could do with more ^g everywhere
L1672[21:59:59] <sugoi> i didn't know /bin/lua also supported interrupt for closing it
L1673[22:00:29] <gamax92> well, it's what it claims, you can just change it to say Ctrl-D, or make Ctrl-C work again, or idunno.
L1674[22:00:40] <greaser|q> it totally doesn't say anything about ^D: https://i.imgur.com/l4onZ97.png
L1675[22:00:41] <sugoi> i'll fix/review it
L1676[22:01:53] <AlissaSquared> i just realized that
L1677[22:02:06] <AlissaSquared> is that a legit Lua binary? it has the PUC-Rio copyright
L1678[22:02:30] <sugoi> well thanks for testing :)
L1679[22:02:47] <gamax92> :/ why is os.sleep not working in my program
L1680[22:03:08] <ping> thats amazing ._.
L1681[22:03:23] <gamax92> oh, because I'm editing the wrong file :P
L1682[22:03:32] <ping> is that an actual ARM processor arch
L1683[22:03:40] <gamax92> MIPS
L1684[22:03:44] <ping> oh lol
L1685[22:03:45] <ping> nvm
L1686[22:03:49] <Saphira> god damn me
L1687[22:03:55] * AlissaSquared still doesn't know what MIPS is
L1688[22:04:04] <gamax92> AlissaSquared: do you know what ARM is?
L1689[22:04:10] <Saphira> i tried helping someone WHO DOES NOT KNOW HIS ACCOUNT NAME
L1690[22:04:12] <AlissaSquared> an architecture
L1691[22:04:19] <gamax92> cool, MIPS is also an architecture
L1692[22:04:20] <AlissaSquared> the thing that Pi's have
L1693[22:04:23] <AlissaSquared> oh
L1694[22:04:42] <ping> AlissaSquared, MIPS is another RISC architcecture
L1695[22:04:52] <AlissaSquared> cool another acronym
L1696[22:04:54] <AlissaSquared> how helpful
L1697[22:04:55] <ping> (like ARM) (x86 is CISC)
L1698[22:05:07] <AlissaSquared> "RISC (reduced instruction set computer) "
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L1700[22:05:18] <AlissaSquared> 'kay
L1701[22:05:24] <ping> basically RISC = simple, CISC = overly complicated bullshit
L1702[22:05:25] <gamax92> there that helps.
L1703[22:05:31] <CompanionCube> isn't MIPS the one that is commonly used in consumer routers?
L1704[22:05:41] <AlissaSquared> So... You built a MIPS emulator? Or...
L1705[22:05:41] <gamax92> yeah, my router has it
L1706[22:05:43] <ping> idk, all my routers have had ARM
L1707[22:05:54] <ping> besides the crappy ones with no UI
L1708[22:06:24] <CompanionCube> the one on this disk uses a Broadcom MIPS SoC
L1709[22:06:24] <AlissaSquared> I don't even know what my router uses because my dad won't let me touch it
L1710[22:06:36] <AlissaSquared> but so far I think it uses Haskell, Lua, and I feel quite sorry for it
L1711[22:06:40] <CompanionCube> AlissaSquared, you could just google the model
L1712[22:06:51] <AlissaSquared> lazy though
L1713[22:06:55] <AlissaSquared> and unimportant IMO
L1714[22:06:57] <ping> AlissaSquared, wtf kind of router uses haskell?
L1715[22:07:05] <AlissaSquared> mine apparently
L1716[22:07:11] <ping> give us model number
L1717[22:07:14] <ping> is important to us not u
L1718[22:07:36] <AlissaSquared> .-.
L1719[22:07:40] <gamax92> #lua 69.58-28.21
L1720[22:07:40] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 41.37
L1721[22:07:48] <CompanionCube> I'm not sure that any consumer router would have the required system resources for haskell
L1722[22:07:49] <AlissaSquared> i'm pretty sure it'll be important if i gave it to you
L1723[22:07:55] <gamax92> sugoi: so 41.37KiB more with that machine.lua hack
L1724[22:07:59] <AlissaSquared> okay, nvm. it uses .ha not .hs extension
L1725[22:08:12] <sugoi> gamax92: woah
L1726[22:08:25] <ping> CompanionCube, but doesnt ghc make it basically as memory consuming as c++
L1727[22:08:36] <greaser|q> yes i built a MIPS emulator
L1728[22:08:39] <gamax92> where with is 69.58KiB free, and 28.21KiB without
L1729[22:08:41] <CompanionCube> Aren't .ha files archives
L1730[22:08:48] <greaser|q> and am now reimplementing printf for the... somethingth time
L1731[22:08:54] <AlissaSquared> dk, dc CompanionCube
L1732[22:09:06] <gamax92> err, I need to actually do a valid test. 5.2 and 5.3 are not the same.
L1733[22:09:09] <CompanionCube> ?
L1734[22:09:28] <AlissaSquared> don't know, don't care
L1735[22:09:32] <sugoi> gamax92: do you have a branch w/ that hack commited i can see?
L1736[22:09:57] <CompanionCube> ah, usually see that with 'i' prefixe
L1737[22:10:15] <AlissaSquared> that's like two extra letters though D:
L1738[22:10:31] <gamax92> sugoi: http://hastebin.com/gayovetevu.lua
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L1740[22:11:40] <gamax92> huh neat.
L1741[22:11:59] <gamax92> sugoi: so apparently, 5.2 is 28.21KiB free, and 5.3 is 34.64KiB free
L1742[22:12:15] <sugoi> that so cool you tried that
L1743[22:12:18] <gamax92> #lua 69.58-34.64
L1744[22:12:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 34.94
L1745[22:12:51] <AlissaSquared> what's the second arg to dump?
L1746[22:12:51] <sugoi> i can see why it saves memory
L1747[22:12:55] <gamax92> eitherway, nice job at making T1 usable :P
L1748[22:12:55] <AlissaSquared> ~w string.dump
L1749[22:12:55] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-string.dump
L1750[22:12:57] <sugoi> i would have not guessed so much would be saved
L1751[22:13:05] <gamax92> AlissaSquared: look at 5.3 manual
L1752[22:13:11] <sugoi> gamax92: thanks :)
L1753[22:13:13] <AlissaSquared> looking.
L1754[22:13:25] <sugoi> now i need to get a new irc nick
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L1756[22:13:39] <sugoi> so maybe ppl can know who to ask questions to
L1757[22:13:43] <AlissaSquared> 'If strip is a true value, the binary representation may not include all debug information about the function, to save space.' nice
L1758[22:13:47] <sugoi> also, i know i need to update the docs
L1759[22:16:14] <gamax92> huh ...
L1760[22:16:28] <gamax92> sugoi: ^C also doesn't seem to work on the shell,
L1761[22:16:35] <sugoi> for to do what?
L1762[22:16:44] <gamax92> have it exit and reload
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L1764[22:16:55] <gamax92> granted, that doesn't make sense
L1765[22:16:58] <sugoi> :)
L1766[22:17:00] <gamax92> but, was old behaviour
L1767[22:17:07] <sugoi> yeah, ... i didn't know ppl expected that
L1768[22:17:17] <sugoi> i wanted ^c to be what normal shell does
L1769[22:17:18] <gamax92> I'm just a person
L1770[22:17:37] <gamax92> s/ a / one /
L1771[22:17:37] <MichiBot> <gamax92> I'm just one person
L1772[22:18:08] <sugoi> but ^c for /bin/lua, that's more important i think
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L1774[22:18:22] <sugoi> i'm thinking for how i want it to work
L1775[22:18:29] <sugoi> s/for //
L1776[22:18:31] <MichiBot> <sugoi> i'm thinking how i want it to work
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L1778[22:19:33] <sugoi> gamax92: anywho, ^d will reset the shell
L1779[22:20:03] <gamax92> actually, what does python say when you start it up?
L1780[22:20:38] <sugoi> nothing about closing it
L1781[22:20:45] <gamax92> sugoi: right, if you type "exit" or "quit" into python, it'll specifically mention Ctrl-D
L1782[22:20:48] <greaser|q> Python 2.7.10 (default, Nov 17 2015, 00:30:06)
L1783[22:20:48] <greaser|q> [GCC 5.2.0] on linux2
L1784[22:20:48] <greaser|q> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
L1785[22:20:51] <sugoi> oh, but ^d..yeah ^
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L1787[22:21:09] <greaser|q> it does when you type in exit, yeah
L1788[22:21:42] <sugoi> but will ppl want ^c for /bin/lua?
L1789[22:21:47] <sugoi> i bet they will
L1790[22:21:59] <sugoi> note: i plan on leaving ^d exactly as is
L1791[22:22:15] <sugoi> just that the problem is, ^c from term.read() is ""
L1792[22:22:16] <greaser|q> ^c and ^d are both worth having as... well, exactly what they do
L1793[22:22:23] <sugoi> yep
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L1795[22:22:48] <greaser|q> well printf sorta works, it NPEs in places though
L1796[22:22:56] <gamax92> sugoi: https://imgur.com/g0lRuG0,1xaXMTk
L1797[22:23:40] <sugoi> what do you want it to say? :)
L1798[22:24:13] <gamax92> sugoi: huh? I was just showing you the effect of stripping debugging information
L1799[22:24:18] <sugoi> oh
L1800[22:24:45] <greaser|q> the important thing though is the kernel used to be about 100KB
L1801[22:24:46] <gamax92> error messages and traceback's lose all meaning
L1802[22:24:50] <greaser|q> and now it's about 27KB
L1803[22:25:16] <gamax92> the only reason machine is still there is because I can't strip that
L1804[22:25:21] <sugoi> gamax92: that's exactly the output i'm used to
L1805[22:25:27] <sugoi> because i ocemu...i pressume
L1806[22:25:34] <gamax92> sugoi: just question marks?
L1807[22:25:38] <gamax92> because that's not good
L1808[22:25:56] <sugoi> oh sorry
L1809[22:25:58] <sugoi> haha
L1810[22:26:00] <sugoi> i didn't scroll down
L1811[22:26:04] <gamax92> :/
L1812[22:26:09] <sugoi> :\
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L1814[22:27:19] <sugoi> also, /bin/lua -- if you enter a lot, does it scroll too far?
L1815[22:27:26] <sugoi> weird, i need to look into that
L1816[22:28:26] <gamax92> sugoi: no?
L1817[22:28:37] <sugoi> might just be ocemu then?
L1818[22:28:40] <sugoi> i'll test in game
L1819[22:31:09] <gamax92> I also don't see what you're saying in ocemu
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L1821[22:33:43] <sugoi> OH
L1822[22:33:47] <sugoi> phew
L1823[22:33:55] <sugoi> accidentally resized the ocemu window
L1824[22:33:57] <sugoi> nvm
L1825[22:34:05] <sugoi> :) i'm not used to it being a window :/
L1826[22:34:17] <gamax92> you can always just use the old buggy ffi dll
L1827[22:34:30] <sugoi> :)
L1828[22:34:32] <sugoi> i like this one
L1829[22:39:22] <greaser|q> once i finally get printf to behave it should be possible to boot off a T1 stick in under a minute
L1830[22:39:33] <greaser|q> allegedly i have 31 pages free
L1831[22:41:09] <gamax92> yep, router is MIPS based
L1832[22:43:17] <gamax92> sugoi: oh lol.
L1833[22:43:24] <sugoi> ...yeah?
L1834[22:43:28] <gamax92> resizing the window on linux does not stretch it
L1835[22:43:33] <gamax92> but it seems to in windows
L1836[22:43:44] <sugoi> nor on windows
L1837[22:43:50] <sugoi> not since the very lateset update
L1838[22:43:53] <gamax92> huh, I could have sworn it did
L1839[22:44:05] <sugoi> it did..then you guys fixed something, then that stopped
L1840[22:44:34] <gamax92> :| why did you guys want me to have it be resizable then
L1841[22:45:10] <sugoi> that's a very good question. i was just here enjoying the show
L1842[22:45:40] <gamax92> then I'm just gonna remove that then.
L1843[22:45:50] <gamax92> sugoi: you're on windows though right?
L1844[22:45:55] <sugoi> but i thought you were fixing something else....
L1845[22:45:57] <sugoi> but i dont remember
L1846[22:45:59] <sugoi> yes
L1847[22:46:01] <sugoi> windows
L1848[22:46:02] <gamax92> I updated the ffi dll :P
L1849[22:46:14] <sugoi> i thought it was fixing more other things
L1850[22:46:45] <gamax92> oh.
L1851[22:46:59] <gamax92> sugoi: is it sdl_renderer_software by chance?
L1852[22:47:19] <sugoi> could be - who were you workingwith on this?
L1853[22:47:23] <sugoi> i was just testing it for you two
L1854[22:47:31] <sugoi> i dont remember what was the goal
L1855[22:47:34] <gamax92> Kasen
L1856[22:47:43] <sugoi> i, personally, like the "window"ness of it
L1857[22:47:59] <gamax92> it was randomly full screening and grabbing the mouse or being the wrong resolution, etc.
L1858[22:48:00] <sugoi> no longer having to exit fullscreen, and window-right-side-clip it
L1859[22:48:06] <sugoi> yeah
L1860[22:48:14] <sugoi> so a non-scaling window is JUST FINE
L1861[22:48:37] <gamax92> sugoi: go into screen_sdl2 and replace the createRenderer line with "renderer = SDL.createRenderer(window, -1, SDL.RENDERER_TARGETTEXTURE + SDL.RENDERER_SOFTWARE)"
L1862[22:48:54] <gamax92> also go play around with commenting lines in that "Attempt to fix random issues on Windows 64bit" block
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L1865[22:49:47] <sugoi> +software does not scale
L1866[22:50:04] <sugoi> i.e. no change in behavior
L1867[22:50:47] <gamax92> well if I'm keeping resize I'm going to have to put that on, otherwise I get complete garbage around the terminal area
L1868[22:51:14] <sugoi> bah
L1869[22:51:22] <sugoi> i wish ^c wasn't legacy "exit" for /bin/lua
L1870[22:51:24] <sugoi> this sucks
L1871[22:52:05] <sugoi> it always should have been just ^d
L1872[22:52:07] <sugoi> meh
L1873[22:52:54] <gamax92> yeah no fuck this, no resizing.
L1874[22:53:15] <gamax92> sorry Kasen, you can just resort to your hack that forces windows to be resizable
L1875[23:03:33] <greaser|q> it takes about 1:20 to boot off a T1 stick of RAM off the floppy disk now
L1876[23:03:37] <greaser|q> yay for custom libcs
L1877[23:04:42] <gamax92> sugoi: heh, is the super excessive output from ocemu at all helpful to you? :P
L1878[23:05:58] <sugoi> no, i debug=true :)
L1879[23:06:18] <sugoi> i mean, false
L1880[23:06:22] <sugoi> :/
L1881[23:06:31] <sugoi> now that i know about log, that's all i need :)
L1882[23:06:35] <greaser|q> this is taking a while to load mandel.lua... but i now have more pages of RAM on a T1 than i used to have on a T1.5 prior to moving to my own libc
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L1884[23:07:07] <Kasen> gamax92, i thought you fixed that thing with the ffi rebuild?
L1885[23:07:09] <greaser|q> still took about 3 minutes to load the mandelbrot program off the disk though
L1886[23:07:37] <gamax92> Kasen: no the issue is that having the window be resizable makes no sense
L1887[23:07:44] <gamax92> and so I removed it :)
L1888[23:07:49] <Kasen> oh right
L1889[23:07:50] <Kasen> why?
L1890[23:07:53] <Kasen> makes sense to me
L1891[23:07:56] <greaser|q> in other words, running lua on a T1 stick in ocmips has now been upgraded to "impractical" from "what the fuck do you think you're doing just stop it and rethink your life"
L1892[23:07:56] <gamax92> good for you
L1893[23:08:05] <Kasen> i want the window bigger, so i make it bigger
L1894[23:08:13] <Kasen> makes no sense to not be resizeable
L1895[23:08:13] <sugoi> greaser|q: why do you say "page of ram" and not just "ram"
L1896[23:08:31] <sugoi> or are we pretending the oc env has "pages" too ?
L1897[23:08:37] <sugoi> what would our page size be?
L1898[23:08:39] <gamax92> sugoi: each page is 4KB
L1899[23:08:40] <greaser|q> 4KB
L1900[23:08:40] <sugoi> :)
L1901[23:08:48] <greaser|q> sugoi: OCMIPS literally has pages now
L1902[23:08:50] <sugoi> according to what? it's all emulated
L1903[23:08:52] <Saphire> :|
L1904[23:09:09] <greaser|q> the TLB size on a MIPS R3000 with virtual memory support is 4KB
L1905[23:09:12] <Saphire> sugoi: pages is a method of deviding a freaking RAM
L1906[23:09:22] <Saphire> isn't it?
L1907[23:09:26] <Saphire> *are
L1908[23:09:32] <sugoi> ...
L1909[23:09:39] <sugoi> why am i so often misunderstood
L1910[23:09:41] <gamax92> Saphire: do you words :P
L1911[23:09:48] <sugoi> i am quite aware of what pages are
L1912[23:09:52] <Saphire> gamax92: yeah, that was awful >_>
L1913[23:09:55] <Saphire> sugoi: sorry
L1914[23:10:28] <sugoi> but what are pages for oc?
L1915[23:10:40] <greaser|q> once again, OCMIPS
L1916[23:10:41] <gamax92> sugoi: not for oc, for ocmips
L1917[23:10:44] <Saphire> ^
L1918[23:10:49] <greaser|q> it's a mod for OC that adds a MIPS CPU
L1919[23:10:54] <sugoi> ah
L1920[23:10:55] <sugoi> ok
L1921[23:11:01] <sugoi> thanks
L1922[23:11:04] <greaser|q> which i am working on, although right now the only thing that really needs work is the kernel and userland
L1923[23:11:17] <gamax92> hype intensifies :)
L1924[23:11:34] <greaser|q> it took 1 day to write the initial usermode-only emulator
L1925[23:11:48] <greaser|q> then one or two to get it working in OC, one or two to get virtual memory working
L1926[23:12:05] <greaser|q> this is mostly a testament to the fact that MIPS is great
L1927[23:12:19] <greaser|q> ...yeah this mandelbrot is taking fucking forever
L1928[23:12:46] <greaser|q> throw a 1MB of RAM at it and it'll draw just fine, like, 5 lines of 159 chars per second
L1929[23:12:50] <gamax92> oh right that's what I wanted to ask you.
L1930[23:12:58] <gamax92> greaser|q: does your component interface handle tables
L1931[23:13:04] <gamax92> and if not, do you think it's necessary
L1932[23:13:12] <greaser|q> gamax92: at the moment no, and i don't know of any components that *need* it
L1933[23:13:27] <greaser|q> there is one thing i do need to add support for though: blocks of a given size of memory
L1934[23:15:12] <greaser|q> ok, T1.5 RAM is still impractical, the brainfuck lua script is spitting out chars... well, let's say it's 3 seconds per char or something
L1935[23:15:35] <greaser|q> on T2 it's instantaneous
L1936[23:16:01] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/Jd0luYg.png
L1937[23:16:30] <greaser|q> ^ T1 RAM
L1938[23:16:39] <gamax92> greaser|q: what if you align the code with the respective ascii character in memory, maybe with a multiplier to gain space, and then you can just jump to memory based on the instruction
L1939[23:16:51] <greaser|q> also pictured: accurate RAM calculation
L1940[23:17:22] <greaser|q> gamax92: not sure what you're talking about here
L1941[23:18:15] <gamax92> greaser|q: hmm ... thinking jump table is the correct term here.
L1942[23:19:10] <gamax92> nah, that wouldn't be good, they're too spaced out
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L1944[23:19:26] <gamax92> greaser|q: http://luajit.org/performance_mips.html
L1945[23:20:03] <greaser|q> gamax92: tempted to make it an option, but it's not going to be suitable for T1 RAM... the real reason for it being painfully slow is it's constantly reloading chunks of code off a floppy disk
L1946[23:20:38] <gamax92> greaser|q: does it detect hotspots, trying to unload unused cold areas?
L1947[23:21:02] <greaser|q> gamax92: it casually cycles through the page list
L1948[23:23:58] <greaser|q> another fun thing: we have 64 TLBs, each TLB maps 4KB from a virtual address to a physical address
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L1950[23:27:28] <greaser|q> 4KB * 64 = 256KB
L1951[23:27:37] <greaser|q> so if you absolutely have to you can just use it as a page table
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L1954[23:47:21] <sugoi> heh, could implement a LRU cache for your pages
L1955[23:47:27] <sugoi> for your paging*
L1956[23:49:04] <sugoi> ha! found a trick for /bin/lua exit on ^c
L1957[23:49:08] <sugoi> ^c returns ""
L1958[23:49:15] <sugoi> but [enter](no input) returns "\n"
L1959[23:49:37] <gamax92> oh :P
L1960[23:49:41] <sugoi> tada! ^c exited
L1961[23:50:01] <sugoi> gamax92: thanks for testing
L1962[23:50:16] <sugoi> btw, i changed the text of the lua start as well
L1963[23:50:19] <gamax92> sugoi: I'd still make the message say , yeah.
L1964[23:50:21] <sugoi> to read "Ctrl+D"
L1965[23:50:27] <sugoi> cool, we agree on that
L1966[23:51:07] <sugoi> good, this is much better than my other hack idea
L1967[23:51:20] <sugoi> term.read takes a filter, and doesn't return if the filter rejects the input
L1968[23:51:28] <sugoi> well, it's either a regex or a callback
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L1970[23:51:38] <sugoi> i was going to inject a callback that would track HOW term.read returned
L1971[23:51:45] <sugoi> stupid hack
L1972[23:52:00] <sugoi> but as i was prototyping it, i noticed [enter]'s return gives \n
L1973[23:52:05] <sugoi> anywho, yeah, better this way
L1974[23:55:39] <gamax92> eyy there we go.
L1975[23:55:39] <gamax92> http://www.hvsc.de/download/C64Music/DOCUMENTS/Songlengths.txt
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