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L5[00:07:47] <sugoi> #lua return (function(c,bw,wr,bx,cw,w) return (not c and bw>0) or (wr and c and (bx+bw+cw)>w) end)()
L6[00:07:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to compare number with nil
L7[00:09:01] <sugoi> #lua return (function(c,bw,wr,bx,cw,w) return (not c and bw>0) or (wr and c and (bx+bw+cw)>w) end)(nil,0,false,nil,0,10)
L8[00:09:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > false
L9[00:09:09] <Xal> can the bot do anything other than lua?
L10[00:09:20] <sugoi> #lua return (function(c,bw,wr,bx,cw,w) return (not c and bw>0) or (wr and c and (bx+bw+cw)>w) end)(nil,0,true,nil,0,10)
L11[00:09:20] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L12[00:09:49] <sugoi> #lua return (function(c,bw,wr,bx,cw,w) return (not c and bw>0) or (wr and c and (bx+bw+cw)>w) end)(true,0,true,nil,0,10)
L13[00:09:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value (local 'bx')
L14[00:10:09] <sugoi> yar
L15[00:10:18] <sugoi> Xal: a few things but i dont know them :)
L16[00:10:36] <gamax92> #rb
L17[00:10:44] <gamax92> I don't know any ruby
L18[00:11:05] <gamax92> #rb puts "Hello World!";
L19[00:11:19] <gamax92> maybe #rb isn't a thing ... or admin only
L20[00:13:22] <Xal> hmm, know of any other languages built in to it?
L21[00:13:41] <Kodos> Ypi
L22[00:13:42] <Kodos> err
L23[00:13:46] <Kodos> You'd have to ask vif
L24[00:13:48] <Kodos> Deadbeef is his
L25[00:14:18] <sugoi> #lua return nil or '' and 1, 2 or '' and 1
L26[00:14:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 | 2
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L36[02:26:31] <Vexatos> gamax92, http://git.io/v2TUZ :)
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L38[02:45:08] <Meelock> why do you keep on posting that?
L39[02:51:41] <Vexatos> It's a big project and gamax92 is good at this stuff :P
L40[02:51:59] <Vexatos> Next step is to figure out how I want to process the instructions
L41[02:52:48] <Meelock> k
L42[02:53:43] <Vexatos> gamax92, I'd like to process all eight channels at the same time, but the only thing I can think of right now is processing every channel individually into their bytes and then processing them a second time with respect to the two types of modulation...
L43[02:53:46] <Meelock> i dont really get it
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L80[06:00:03] <WatchtowerAnnouncer> Time for a new episode from F.orecaster! You're welcome! (Period to prevent ping)
L81[06:00:03] <WatchtowerAnnouncer> https://youtu.be/KtG0QWch9g8 - Modded Minecraft [Episode 122] - The Budding Roboticist
L82[06:00:03] <WatchtowerAnnouncer> Tags on this video: OpenComputers,Robots,Electronics Assembler,Crafting,Planning
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L108[09:24:35] <gamax92> Vexatos: I dunno
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L110[09:32:06] * Vexatos pokes sugoi some more
L111[09:32:12] <Vexatos> gamax92, it's quite hard :/
L112[09:33:22] <MrRatermat> if you know what i mean ;)
L113[09:33:43] <gamax92> hello MrFappermat
L114[09:33:53] <MrRatermat> We both know I don't do that.
L115[09:34:47] <gamax92> Vexatos I don't understand why you need to double process
L116[09:35:06] <gamax92> also brb need to switch to computer
L117[09:37:44] <gamax92> Vexatos: wouldn't you just make a list of all things being modulated and then not, do all the not's and then do all the modulated using it's respective linked channel?
L118[09:39:34] <Vexatos> gamax92, Audio.play receives an array of instruction queues
L119[09:39:37] <Vexatos> one queue per channeƶ
L120[09:39:39] <Vexatos> channel*
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L122[09:40:56] <Vexatos> gamax92, one idea would be to only generate values from channels that are not modulators currently and just expect the other channels to drag those with them
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L124[09:41:12] <Vexatos> (which they will do because the carriers' generate function calls the modulators' generate)
L125[09:42:01] <Vexatos> so, every sample, check each channel if it currently has delay left to process
L126[09:42:03] <Vexatos> if it does, do so
L127[09:42:09] <Vexatos> but only if it is not a modulator
L128[09:42:18] <Vexatos> if it does not, process all instructions until it has delay again
L129[09:42:23] <Vexatos> gamax92, does that sound right?
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L132[09:43:34] <gamax92> hmm, if carriers call modulators anyway, then I guess that'll work
L133[09:44:19] <gamax92> Vexatos: err wait ...
L134[09:44:28] <Vexatos> http://git.io/v2T1y
L135[09:44:38] <gamax92> you made each channel have a separate instruction queue?
L136[09:44:40] <Vexatos> when getting the modualted value, it calls the modulator's gate generate
L137[09:44:43] <Vexatos> ...yes?
L138[09:44:49] <Inari> steins gate
L139[09:44:53] <Vexatos> that was the plan from the start
L140[09:44:54] <Vexatos> .-.
L141[09:45:05] <gamax92> well just remember, delay doesn't make sense as a per channel instruction :P
L142[09:45:20] <Vexatos> why not
L143[09:45:26] <Vexatos> ...oh
L144[09:45:30] <Vexatos> D U H
L145[09:45:34] <Vexatos> yea
L146[09:45:35] <Vexatos> uhm
L147[09:45:40] <Vexatos> well
L148[09:45:41] <Vexatos> yea
L149[09:45:42] <Vexatos> ...
L150[09:45:51] <Vexatos> >_ _ _ >
L151[09:45:59] <Vexatos> <_<
L152[09:46:07] <gamax92> inb4 <_>
L153[09:46:11] <Vexatos> but what about the release phase of ADSR
L154[09:46:14] <Vexatos> that takes time as well
L155[09:46:26] <Vexatos> since it happens after you close a gate
L156[09:46:33] <gamax92> Gate off, more delay
L157[09:47:04] <Vexatos> hmm so you mean the release wouldn't cause any delay itself?
L158[09:47:10] <Vexatos> I guess that's fine
L159[09:47:48] <Vexatos> that sounds good
L160[09:47:49] <Vexatos> yea
L161[09:47:51] <gamax92> In this case it's fine to think generically
L162[09:47:57] <Vexatos> hmmm I like my implementation of this
L163[09:48:07] <Vexatos> that the Gate is the only thing actually called from the outside
L164[09:48:08] <gamax92> Delay is just to generically start processing and generating audio data
L165[09:48:18] <Vexatos> ok
L166[09:48:22] <gamax92> and every other instruction is just to generically configure some part of the channel
L167[09:48:23] <Vexatos> then I can have a single massive queue I guess
L168[09:48:33] <Vexatos> but that means every instruction also needs a channel parameter
L169[09:48:41] <Vexatos> MOAR PACKET SIZE
L170[09:48:52] <Vexatos> well, it's just a byte
L171[09:49:03] <Vexatos> but at 200 instructions, that's 200 additional bytes >_>
L172[09:49:16] <Vexatos> (not sure yet what the limit will be)
L173[09:49:30] * gamax92 goes to grab a file ...
L174[09:49:39] <Vexatos> there will both be a limit on instructions and on time, I guess
L175[09:49:56] <Vexatos> to make you unable to just make a 2 hour song with only 10 instructions
L176[09:50:07] <Vexatos> since all that would still be buffered on the client
L177[09:50:13] <Vexatos> not inside OpenAL, thankfully
L178[09:50:23] <Vexatos> but still in a local bytebuffer queue :P
L179[09:51:23] <gamax92> also do you have any persistence? or way to work with if someone joins near an active one?
L180[09:52:24] <Vexatos> no
L181[09:52:31] <Vexatos> None of the sound cards have that
L182[09:52:39] <Vexatos> as I said, it's all generated on the client
L183[09:52:45] <Vexatos> since I can't use DFPWM this time
L184[09:53:11] <Vexatos> hmm
L185[09:53:18] <gamax92> oh, so I guess someone walks away and then comes back and gets corrupted audio because the assumed state no longer matches the actual state?
L186[09:53:19] <Vexatos> unless I keep the instruction queue on the server
L187[09:53:20] * gamax92 slaps Vexatos
L188[09:53:22] <Vexatos> for a little longer
L189[09:53:50] <Vexatos> and just erase Delay instructions inside as time goes on
L190[09:54:05] <Vexatos> gamax92, if they leave and come back, they'll hear nothing at all
L191[09:54:17] <Vexatos> that's why the buffer is limited to a few seconds anyway
L192[09:54:28] <Vexatos> you are supposed to call process() often
L193[09:55:19] <Vexatos> as I said, what I could do is leave the queue existing on the server, but every tick, check the queue for the next delay instruction and decrement that
L194[09:55:33] <Vexatos> so when someone comes closer, they'd get the entire instruction stack minus all the delay time they missed
L195[09:56:23] <gamax92> uhhhh...
L196[09:58:15] <gamax92> Vexatos: if I process and the instruction buffer still has stuff in it but enough to take the new instructions ... that'll work right
L197[09:59:01] * vifino groans and flops on Lizzy
L198[09:59:26] <Lizzy> /me pets vifino
L199[09:59:30] * Lizzy pets vifino
L200[09:59:40] <Vexatos> If I slowly delete stuff from the instruction queue on the server side
L201[09:59:45] <Vexatos> that'll also have another advantage
L202[09:59:50] * vifino purrs
L203[10:00:03] <Vexatos> because then every additional process() would just append to THAT queue
L204[10:00:17] <Vexatos> with some ResetEverything instruction inbetween
L205[10:00:34] <Vexatos> that way I could keep track of the instruction buffer and error if it's too large
L206[10:00:45] <Vexatos> so the instruction limit would not be per process() but total
L207[10:01:13] <Vexatos> of course that is massively affected by deync
L208[10:01:16] <Vexatos> but.... welll
L209[10:01:17] <Vexatos> whatever
L210[10:01:19] <gamax92> 1m41s song has a 23KB instruction file
L211[10:01:22] <Vexatos> it's only sent to the client once
L212[10:01:57] <Vexatos> how many instructions are that
L213[10:03:09] <gamax92> Vexatos: idunno but I guess I could count
L214[10:03:32] <gamax92> the "instuctions" here are basically just put byte in register
L215[10:03:55] <Vexatos> yea
L216[10:04:00] <Vexatos> we won't go THAT low
L217[10:08:17] <gamax92> Vexatos: 13318
L218[10:08:41] <Lizzy> Man the fuel scoop was a good investment
L219[10:08:43] <Vexatos> so 700 per minute, roughly
L220[10:09:12] <gamax92> keep in mind this is just one file
L221[10:09:37] <gamax92> #lua 13318/(182100/1000/60)
L222[10:09:38] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4388.1383855025
L223[10:09:41] <gamax92> ?
L224[10:10:41] <gamax92> oh. umm.
L225[10:11:33] <gamax92> the song is apparently listed as 3m02s
L226[10:13:30] <gamax92> Vexatos: where did you come up with 700 o.o;
L227[10:15:06] <gamax92> #lua 13318/((41/60)+1)
L228[10:15:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 7911.6831683168
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L230[10:15:26] <gamax92> 7911 is a big bit off from 700
L231[10:15:39] <Vexatos> only a factor of 10
L232[10:16:14] <gamax92> Vexatos: yeah good job, you were 9% correct :P
L233[10:16:55] <gamax92> but yeah the song has ~4388 per minute
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L238[10:44:53] <gamax92> #lua 46804/294134*60000
L239[10:44:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 9547.4851598251
L240[10:45:04] <gamax92> #lua 46804/(294134/60000)
L241[10:45:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 9547.4851598251
L242[10:45:09] <gamax92> right
L243[10:48:06] <Turtle> that's pretty much how math works yes
L244[10:48:34] <gamax92> Turtle: I'm just making sure I'm not insane
L245[10:49:17] <Turtle> ok
L246[10:50:09] <Turtle> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?t=crmtb01&f=ob&i=46804%2F294134*60000+%3D+46804%2F(294134%2F60000)
L247[10:50:20] <Turtle> aand the last bracket got rekt, yay
L248[10:52:35] <gamax92> ($v1>>5)|($v1>>4)|(($v1%42)*($v1>>4)|(0x15483113)-($v1>>4))/($v1>>16)^($v1|($v1>>4))
L249[10:52:43] <gamax92> s/$v1/t/
L250[10:52:43] <MichiBot> <gamax92> ($v1>>5)|($v1>>4)|(($v1%42)*($v1>>4)|(0x15483113)-($v1>>4))/($v1>>16)^($v1|($v1>>4))
L251[10:52:44] <Turtle> TLDR: You can multiply the fraction by either 60000^-1 or just 60000 to get the other result
L252[10:52:47] <gamax92> wot
L253[10:52:55] <gamax92> you changed nothing ;-;
L254[10:53:11] <gamax92> s/\$v1/t/g
L255[10:53:16] * gamax92 shrugs
L256[10:53:30] <Turtle> you sure $v1 is valid regex?
L257[10:53:43] <gamax92> Idunno
L258[10:54:13] <Turtle> it's not, \$v1 should work tho
L259[10:55:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2> whoa
L260[10:55:57] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Regex is not fun to look at
L261[10:56:19] <Turtle> You go to some regex tester website, and try options until it works :p
L262[10:56:46] <SuPeRMiNoR2> lets see... Nope... nope.... nope... nope....
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L264[10:58:29] <gamax92> Vexatos: you still around?
L265[11:00:36] <Vexatos> yes
L266[11:00:50] <gamax92> Vexatos: http://greggman.com/downloads/examples/html5bytebeat/html5bytebeat.html#t=0&e=0&s=8000&bb=5d000001002f0000000000000000379d4ad21f892ba266cab851577425ba232d7b201384a5577ac4b4a199af6fbbad4ef7cf8355e9b3792a79437fff857c8000
L267[11:00:55] <gamax92> >_> that's a long url jeez
L268[11:01:19] <Vexatos> AAAAAAARGH MY EYEEEEES
L269[11:01:22] <gamax92> colors!
L270[11:01:35] <Vexatos> my screen stongly disapproves.
L271[11:02:01] <gamax92> what is your screen?
L272[11:02:29] <gamax92> you were supposed to listen to it more than look at it :P
L273[11:02:40] <Turtle> What the hell are we listening too? :p
L274[11:02:50] <gamax92> Turtle: (t*9&t>>4|t*5&t>>7|t*3&t/1024)
L275[11:03:34] <gamax92> where t is a constantly growing number
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L286[12:52:50] <sugoi> lua 1-based indexing is going to completely destroy my brain
L287[12:53:08] <sugoi> i honestly am afraid this is cementing bad patterns in my head
L288[12:55:47] <`-`> Eh, I'm used to it
L289[12:55:58] <`-`> Probably because I use so many languages now .-.
L290[12:56:00] <sugoi> `-`: that's specifically what i'm afraid of
L291[12:56:14] <`-`> Like, I'm used to it but I only do it for Lua
L292[12:56:19] <sugoi> once i'm used to the wrong indexing, i start using it naturally
L293[12:56:33] <`-`> I never do 1-based indexing in any other languages accidentally
L294[12:56:58] <sugoi> i'm not talking about a simple for i=1 vs i=0
L295[12:57:14] <sugoi> but index+offsets and range truncation, etc
L296[12:57:20] <sugoi> everything starts to get crap
L297[12:57:28] * sugoi curses the Lua gods
L298[12:58:20] <Michiyo> sugoi: I always forget about lua being 1 indexed... which is why OS stuff is 0 indexed when interacting with lua...
L299[12:58:27] <Kasen> i end up with a lot of off-by-one shit in Lua because of 1-indexing still
L300[12:58:59] <sugoi> OS stuff is 0 indexed, like what?
L301[12:59:13] <sugoi> Kasen: comrad
L302[12:59:27] <sugoi> comrade*
L303[12:59:35] <Michiyo> Umm, stuff returned from the Entity Scanner, and RFID scanner afaik
L304[12:59:46] <Michiyo> I may have fixed it... but I don't remember doing so
L305[13:00:08] <sugoi> oh, i thought you meant openos api
L306[13:00:14] <sugoi> which...i should be familiar with
L307[13:00:16] <sugoi> so i was curious :)
L308[13:00:24] <Michiyo> OpenSecurity, OS :P
L309[13:00:27] <sugoi> AH
L310[13:00:40] <Michiyo> anyway afk lunch
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L315[13:21:00] <Vexatos> http://git.io/v2TyK mweh heh heh
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L319[13:48:44] <sugoi> heh, nice
L320[13:49:05] <sugoi> does github let you rename your fork?
L321[13:49:09] <sugoi> so it could be vimoc?
L322[13:50:28] <`-`> I've seen some renamed forks before, but I ahve no clue how to do it
L323[13:50:30] <`-`> have even
L324[13:51:10] <Vexatos> sugoi, https://github.com/Vexatos/VimOC
L325[13:51:18] <gamax92> same way as renaming a repo
L326[13:51:41] <sugoi> ok cool
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L334[14:02:21] <gamax92> "Why would we change the topic when we can keep drawing the same thing using poorly drawn stickfigures with the largest brush tool in 2 minutes"
L335[14:04:39] <asie> o
L336[14:04:43] <asie> <|\
L337[14:04:45] <asie> < \
L338[14:05:15] <gamax92> it's ...
L339[14:05:20] <gamax92> it's beautiful
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L364[14:53:11] <Leutech2154> hello
L365[14:53:16] <Leutech2154> i have a problem
L366[14:53:57] <Leutech2154> is anyone here ?
L367[14:54:30] <greaser|q> no
L368[14:54:45] <greaser|q> seriously, if you have a problem, don't wait for someone to be here
L369[14:54:49] <greaser|q> just say the damn thing
L370[14:55:14] <greaser|q> Leutech2154: ^ ^ ^
L371[14:55:44] <Leutech2154> i have a problem with a programm with oc, i need a programm to control a stargate and a programm to control from big reactors an yelloriumreactor
L372[14:56:12] <greaser|q> you'll probably want a redstone card
L373[14:56:39] <greaser|q> unless the parts you need to control are supported as components
L374[14:56:45] <Michiyo> Well, BigReactors, and Both SGCraft, and LanteaCraft have OC control without needing a RedStone card...
L375[14:57:10] <Leutech2154> yes Michiyo but i need a programm for this
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L377[14:57:55] <Michiyo> Ok.... I was telling greaser|q that the mods you want to interact with don't NEED redstone control
L378[14:58:17] <greaser|q> it sounds like whatever you're going to do is going to result in horribly messy code
L379[14:58:21] <Leutech2154> okay
L380[14:58:22] <greaser|q> but i'll tip you off on where to start
L381[14:58:28] <greaser|q> component = require "component"
L382[14:58:54] <greaser|q> if you're in the lua shell there's ways to probe what the devices are called and what their methods are
L383[14:59:14] <Michiyo> Leutech2154: which Stargate mod?
L384[14:59:23] <Leutech2154> sgcraft
L385[14:59:34] <Michiyo> Ahh.. can't help you with that
L386[14:59:35] <Leutech2154> i have a programm from computercraft
L387[14:59:35] <greaser|q> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:component
L388[14:59:38] <Michiyo> good luck.
L389[14:59:52] <Leutech2154> but i need a programm for oc
L390[15:00:16] <Michiyo> I wrote the OC interaction for LanteaCraft... I'ven ot touched SGCraft in years
L391[15:00:40] <greaser|q> dammit what's the program that lists all the devices and their names
L392[15:00:47] <Michiyo> components ?
L393[15:00:59] <Michiyo> typing that at the shell lists everything attached
L394[15:01:26] <greaser|q> sweet
L395[15:01:28] <Leutech2154> sry but i can't understand all this shit with lua or anything
L396[15:01:40] <greaser|q> Leutech2154: in time you will if you actually try
L397[15:02:00] <Leutech2154> and my english is not so good i come from germany
L398[15:02:01] <greaser|q> i mean if you've managed to use a program in CC, you probably at least know some of how the commandline works
L399[15:02:07] <sugoi> Leutech2154: are you hesitant to learn programming or Lua specifically
L400[15:02:43] <Leutech2154> i have a learn porblem
L401[15:02:47] <Leutech2154> sry
L402[15:02:53] <Leutech2154> to learn lua
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L404[15:03:12] <sugoi> i used to very much dislike Lua :)
L405[15:03:25] <sugoi> a BIG part of my issue was that i don't like programming in-game
L406[15:03:39] <greaser|q> so yeah, run this program: components
L407[15:03:40] <sugoi> consider using editors outside the game, see if that matters to you
L408[15:04:00] <greaser|q> and then find out what looks like the thing that controls the reactors and the thing that controls the stargate
L409[15:04:40] <greaser|q> this has some more info on how to actually program it but i'll narrow it down to what you need http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:component_access
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L412[15:10:30] <Inari> sugoi: at least it isnt LSL :<
L413[15:11:39] <Leutech2154> greaser|q i have the compnents and now ?
L414[15:11:47] <Michiyo> get an oppm disk, put it in your computer, oppm install oppm, then oppm install br_control
L415[15:11:59] <greaser|q> what component looks like a stargate? what compon... ahh nevermind just do what Michiyo says
L416[15:12:00] <Michiyo> that's a half decent BigReactors control program
L417[15:12:06] <sugoi> Inari: first i've heard of that
L418[15:12:08] <sugoi> :)
L419[15:12:37] <Inari> list abc = ["a string", 143];
L420[15:12:41] <Inari> want the string?
L421[15:12:48] <Inari> llList2String(abc, 0)
L422[15:12:49] <Inari> hf
L423[15:12:52] <Michiyo> I don't know of any ready made SGCraft control programs, there is lc_control.. but it's for LanteaCraft, and Greg went a totally different direction when he implemented OC/CC control
L424[15:13:05] <Michiyo> The SGCraft docs have some example code, it might be your best bet
L425[15:13:36] <Leutech2154> Michiyo oppm install br_control will not function he says package does not exist
L426[15:14:04] <Michiyo> Oh.. try BR_Control
L427[15:14:25] <Leutech2154> no
L428[15:14:39] <Michiyo> Oh shit right fucking kenny
L429[15:14:58] <greaser|q> ...did the package disappear
L430[15:15:12] <Michiyo> No.. it's still there wtf...
L431[15:15:28] <Michiyo> and he has a packages.yaml... unless that's not what oppm uses
L432[15:15:51] <Michiyo> Ok..... just do this at the shell...
L433[15:15:55] <Michiyo> wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenPrograms/Kenny-Programs/master/BR_Control/BR_Control.lua
L434[15:15:59] <Leutech2154> he says me first "Installing package to ..." and second "Package does not exist"
L435[15:16:02] <Michiyo> it'll download the deps on first run
L436[15:16:25] <Leutech2154> how i can paste url in oc
L437[15:16:38] <Michiyo> insert is default iirc
L438[15:17:21] <Xal> you can middle-click too
L439[15:18:08] <Leutech2154> okay thanks now i have the BR_Control.lua
L440[15:18:10] <Michiyo> who has time for mice
L441[15:23:58] <Leutech2154> okay i have a better control for BR
L442[15:25:43] <Leutech2154> http://pastebin.com/x8G9XRrt
L443[15:25:50] <Leutech2154> this is the control
L444[15:26:06] <Michiyo> That crashes chrome for me.. so meh :P
L445[15:30:06] <Xal> update yer chrome!
L446[15:33:31] <Michiyo> Ummm... it IS updated...?
L447[15:35:03] <Xal> update it harder
L448[15:35:32] <gamax92> update to chrome betas!
L449[15:36:31] <Michiyo> Nah
L450[15:37:16] <Lilly_Satou> update to firefox!
L451[15:37:24] <Lilly_Satou> ITS JUST A PRANK BRO
L452[15:37:35] <vifino> UPDATE TO OPERA!!!
L453[15:37:40] <vifino> ...
L454[15:37:44] <vifino> I'll see myself out.
L455[15:37:46] <Michiyo> I DO have FF installed... but it likes to go solid black over RDP
L456[15:38:06] <Lilly_Satou> vifino: opera is ok/10
L457[15:38:17] <Lilly_Satou> well, was
L458[15:38:20] <vifino> was*
L459[15:38:23] <Lilly_Satou> until they switched to chrome style ui's
L460[15:38:25] <Lilly_Satou> :v
L461[15:38:25] <vifino> ^
L462[15:38:27] <vifino> ^
L463[15:39:04] <Michiyo> v
L464[15:39:05] <Michiyo> ^
L465[15:39:22] <vifino> :^
L466[15:40:14] <Lilly_Satou> i bet the devs were like "we need more user, let switch to gogol kromm ui"
L467[15:40:39] <Lilly_Satou> rest in piece, opera
L468[15:41:29] <Vexatos> Michiyo, bigreactors-control
L469[15:41:30] <Vexatos> pls
L470[15:42:05] <Vexatos> Why use Kenny's outdated stuff :P
L471[15:42:18] <Vexatos> It's not even on OPPM :D
L472[15:42:25] * Vexatos advertises own BR control program
L473[15:43:50] <Michiyo> I use super's stuff.. but the setup can be a bit hard :P
L474[15:46:17] <Vexatos> The programs I have on OPPM that are not hidden are idiot-proof
L475[15:46:21] <Vexatos> like
L476[15:46:25] <Vexatos> oppm install bigreactors-control
L477[15:46:28] <Vexatos> bigreactors-control
L478[15:46:29] <Vexatos> done
L479[15:50:29] <Michiyo> autopid and power-monitor is running 48 turbines and 4 reactors for me atm
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L481[15:51:10] <Michiyo> I need to bring 4 more reactors, and another set of turbines up one day.. but I gotta finish redoing the reactor rooms for #3 and #4
L482[15:51:43] <Vexatos> nah, my program doesn't handle multiple reactors, unfortunately
L483[15:52:40] <Michiyo> yeah, kinda a big selling point for me heh
L484[15:53:52] <Michiyo> at peak demand, currently I think I can hit 12m rf/t And I'm going to atleast double that. Not that I *NEED* to.. but I want to
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L486[15:57:32] <sugoi> i wish there was more need for that kind of power
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L488[15:57:39] <sugoi> sometimes end game gets so bland
L489[15:57:52] <Vexatos> don't install bigreactors
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L491[15:57:58] <Vexatos> suddenly everything works again!
L492[15:58:17] <sugoi> well and...i haven't played in about 7 months
L493[15:58:20] <Vexatos> Or better yet, install GregTech! You'll have both the power production and the demand for it in the very same mod!
L494[15:58:34] <Vexatos> 10M EU/t in one machine? sure
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L496[15:59:50] <gamax92> āœ”
L497[16:00:55] <Lizzy> Michiyo: i struggle going to the power plant world as it is, if you put more in i am not gonna be able to go there at all
L498[16:01:32] <sugoi> gamax92: so i've fixed all my wide char issues with my new term
L499[16:01:35] <sugoi> but
L500[16:01:42] <sugoi> and this really frustrates me --
L501[16:02:01] <Michiyo> Lizzy: yeah no idea why though...
L502[16:02:02] <sugoi> in order to inject more text (not append) into the input stream
L503[16:02:15] <sugoi> i have to unicode.sub each and every char following the cursor
L504[16:02:20] <sugoi> to correctly wrap at any point
L505[16:02:34] <sugoi> and that is slower than find
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L507[16:03:11] <sugoi> i've filled up a tier 3 screen with text, and then held 'a' pushing all the text
L508[16:03:29] <sugoi> it is ...fast enough... but slightly slower than were this just simple find and ascii
L509[16:03:37] <sugoi> :(
L510[16:05:29] <gamax92> sugoi: you can't just cache the old position?
L511[16:05:56] <sugoi> i'd have to cache the width of every char
L512[16:06:21] <sugoi> say you have "abc" and you inject w at position 2, you have to push the chars after it
L513[16:06:27] <sugoi> but i dont know their individual widths
L514[16:06:42] <sugoi> so they wrap at 'unknown' points
L515[16:06:53] <sugoi> unless i wlen each one
L516[16:07:07] <sugoi> sub and wlen, for all
L517[16:07:24] <sugoi> if only there was a wsub :) ...
L518[16:07:40] <sugoi> give me n positions of text, or the next segment smaller
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L520[16:07:46] <gamax92> oh uhh, it wouldn't fix wlen for everything, but you can a gmatch with the utf8 character match string
L521[16:07:54] <gamax92> sugoi: also that sounds like wtrunc
L522[16:08:31] <sugoi> i have to step away, i'll look into these solutions later
L523[16:08:37] <gamax92> alright
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L526[16:33:07] <gamax92> hey Kodos
L527[16:33:13] <Kodos> o/
L528[16:38:17] <Lizzy> o?
L529[16:38:21] <Lizzy> o/ *
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L531[16:42:54] <Kodos> Have I missed anything while I was off killing myself by moving 4 rooms worth of shit across town
L532[16:43:30] <Lizzy> don't think so
L533[16:45:17] <Lizzy> other than me buying E:D horizons
L534[16:45:28] <Kodos> Did you get a discount for already owning E:D?
L535[16:45:36] <Lizzy> I can't remember
L536[16:46:32] <Kodos> I see Soni's assaulted the issue tracker once more
L537[16:46:56] <Lizzy> hmm, nope, didn't get a discount when buying the season pass
L538[16:47:20] <gamax92> #lua 2552/600,1920/500
L539[16:47:20] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4.2533333333333 | 3.84
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L542[16:55:35] <Lizzy> Kodos, if/when you do get horizons: https://youtu.be/JdW2dVBtRak is helpful
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L545[16:58:01] <Dashkal> Lizzy: Danke! I've been too chickenshit to actually make use of the horizons stuff
L546[16:58:08] <Aedda> Can the 3d printer 1) print glass? 2) print a mixture of a solid material and transparent in the same 3d object?
L547[16:58:22] <Dashkal> Of course I didn't actually buy it for the landings. It's the upcoming multi-seat ships I want.
L548[16:59:05] <Lizzy> Dashkal: heh, i was looking for a guide cause i couldn't seem to do it properly by kamikaziing to the surface
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L550[17:02:34] <Kodos> Aedda yes
L551[17:02:40] <Kodos> Just use separate textures per shape
L552[17:03:07] <Aedda> Awesome, thank you Kodos
L553[17:03:27] <Kodos> You're welcome. If you need some example 3d prints, I recommend checking out print3d and print3d-examples on oppm
L554[17:04:23] <v^> im going to get a real 3d printer free soon
L555[17:04:26] <v^> im exited
L556[17:04:45] <vifino> fuck you, v^
L557[17:07:21] <v^> vifino, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YypxPIo54A
L558[17:07:22] <MichiBot> v^: EinStart-S Desktop 3D Printer | length: 3m 14s | Likes: 3 Dislikes: 1 Views: 942 | by SHINING 3D
L559[17:07:23] <v^> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
L560[17:07:29] <v^> dat tolerence
L561[17:07:32] <v^> i want
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L563[17:09:02] <vifino> fuck you, v^
L564[17:09:25] <v^> vifino, rude
L565[17:09:26] <v^> why
L566[17:09:45] <Aedda> jealousy, I can relate lol
L567[17:09:57] <Aedda> I'd kill for even a crappy 3d printer
L568[17:10:01] <Aedda> I'd make, things
L569[17:10:14] <Aedda> widgets and widgets to hold the widgets
L570[17:12:22] <gamax92> Aedda: well, kill v^
L571[17:12:45] <v^> well the thing is
L572[17:12:56] <v^> we are a finalist in a competition
L573[17:13:32] <v^> but they are expecting the people to get the printers to be given
L574[17:13:35] <v^> to schools
L575[17:14:05] <Lizzy> :@ still can't fucking get my ship to glide
L576[17:14:09] <v^> but we are a 2 person team and my teammate doesnt do 3d modeling
L577[17:17:20] <Aedda> someday, someday, took me 12 years to get my first graphics tablet lol...
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L579[17:17:54] <sugoi> gamax92: does ocemu do ANYTHING with keyboard repeat speed?
L580[17:18:39] <gamax92> SDL was doing that
L581[17:22:25] <Temia> I believe it's fairly easy to configure that though?
L582[17:23:16] <gamax92> I haven't looked into anything like that, it's possible that it's default settings are not consistent on each platform and need to be set on boot
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L585[17:28:12] <Lizzy> Michiyo: corded died
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L588[17:31:33] <sugoi> gamax92: sometimes my host machine repeat gets set very low
L589[17:31:51] <sugoi> anywho, not a big deal - but about wtrunc
L590[17:31:57] <sugoi> wow, thanks for pointing that out to me
L591[17:32:06] <sugoi> i may implement term.drawText a third time now...
L592[17:32:08] <sugoi> :)
L593[17:32:50] <gamax92> sugoi: remember, wtrunc will go as high as it can without going to count
L594[17:33:07] <gamax92> ... and it errors if there aren't enough characters to do so
L595[17:33:16] <sugoi> thank you for the confirmation. i just tested with it a few dozens times to get a reasonable understanding of that
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L603[17:49:57] <Negi> Damn, I suck at writing tutorials.
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L606[17:58:44] <Lizzy> Kodos, did you buy E:D through steam?
L607[17:58:56] <Kodos> No, I bought it on the last day of beta
L608[17:58:59] <Kodos> Before gamma
L609[17:59:16] <Lizzy> okay
L610[17:59:33] <Lizzy> cause getting the season pass for Horizons to work was a pain
L611[18:00:53] <Kodos> My PC probably couldn't handle Horizons anyway, not until I can get at least a GeForce GPU, or a new PC with an intel processor instead of AMD
L612[18:04:32] <jhagrid7> AMD is horrible for upgrading
L613[18:06:14] <jhagrid7> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LRQJjX
L614[18:07:21] <greaser|q> any reason to use a motherboard that says "gaming" on it?
L615[18:07:29] <Lizzy> lol not sure if my laptop can take horizons
L616[18:07:30] <greaser|q> after all, "gaming" is part speak for "ripoff"
L617[18:07:49] <Lizzy> currently choking on the compute shaders
L618[18:08:09] <Xal> hey guys wanna buy my gaming leds
L619[18:08:21] <Xal> they make your gpu glow red, thus making it faster
L620[18:08:32] <Xal> or, you can buy the blue ones, which lower temps
L621[18:08:50] <greaser|q> i'd take a tip from my parents' generation and just use suitably-coloured house paint
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L623[18:10:42] <greaser|q> with that said, who wants some gaming minecraft hosting? only $10 a day
L624[18:15:29] <gamax92> greaser|q: I currently have $0 and an income of $0, can I still get a server?
L625[18:15:53] <greaser|q> sure, just take out one of our easy loans with only 8% interest per week
L626[18:16:23] <gamax92> I'm kidding btw don't need a server
L627[18:17:20] <Negi> I should get decent hardware to host one some day.
L628[18:22:05] <asie> gamax92: yes you can actually
L629[18:22:17] <asie> your $0 server will have all the functionality of a normal gaming server
L630[18:22:22] <asie> except with a 0GB high-performance SSD
L631[18:22:24] <asie> and no, PXE is not allowed
L632[18:22:30] <asie> USB sticks cost $10 a day
L633[18:23:30] <gamax92> Why is Steam such a piece of shit
L634[18:25:26] <Lizzy> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++~
L635[18:25:34] <Lizzy> whoopd
L636[18:26:39] <Lizzy> fucking autodock computer took 5 minutes "waiting in queue" whilst nothing happened around me
L637[18:29:12] <sugoi> #lua return ("abc"):find("[a]",1)
L638[18:29:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 | 1
L639[18:29:41] <gamax92> #lua return ("abc"):find("a",nil,true)
L640[18:29:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 | 1
L641[18:29:55] <sugoi> i expected 1,1
L642[18:30:00] <sugoi> but my simple code is not working
L643[18:30:06] <sugoi> sometimes i just want some sanity
L644[18:30:09] <sugoi> :)
L645[18:30:23] <gamax92> mmm, sanity
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L647[18:37:07] <Mimiru> So I'm going to be doing the job application thing soon
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L649[18:47:14] * sugoi is doing the job application thing
L650[18:47:50] <Mimiru> I got bitched at today for "being too helpful"
L651[18:47:56] <Mimiru> I'm like how is that even a thing?
L652[18:48:01] <Lizzy> lol?
L653[18:49:37] <Mimiru> Woman comes in needing a battery, has no idea what kind.. just the voltage... 6 volt. We've had a 6volt lantern battery with a broken case, and low voltage sitting behind the counter since I started working there, I showed her it and asked her if that's the kind of 6 volt battery she needed
L654[18:50:49] <Mimiru> she took a picture, sent it to her husband/boyfriend whatever, it had the price on it, $7.99. He said yes, we didn't have another one of that exact same battery, so co-worker got the same style 6 volt lantern battery off the shelf, but it was $16.49, we explained we couldn't sell the broken one cause it was... broke
L655[18:51:50] <malcom2073> vifino: Was it you that had the github repo, that was a bunch of defines to let you program c++ using VB syntax? heh
L656[18:53:04] <Mimiru> she takes the other one, and goes. about 30 minutes later I'm dealing with a kid buying an RC Car, and the phone rings, co-worker answers and it's the husband/boyfriend pissed cause we charged $16.49 for this battery, and not the $7.99 that was on the other one.... an entirely different brand/chemistry battery, co-worker explains WHY the price was different, he then yells at her cussing her out, so loud that the kid who I'm selling this car to
L657[18:53:04] <Mimiru> can hear.. she (very nicely I'll add, much better than I would have) hangs up on him
L658[18:54:00] <Mimiru> He calls back and demands to speak to the manager, co-worker gives him his number... About an hour later he comes over and asks us what happened, we explain to him, and he proceeds to pop that "You're too helpful" bullshit off to me...
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L660[18:56:42] <Mimiru> And I'm standing here with my dumbfounded what the actual fuck are you talking about expression on my face, he proceeds to go on this rant, because this guy wanted to buy the broken battery, that we don't sell defective products.. and this whole time I'm like.. dude you sell HDMI to composite cables that literally have NOTHING connected electrically, and called me fucking stupid when I told you they don't work even though people buy them and
L661[18:56:42] <Mimiru> return them the next day
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L663[18:57:05] <Mimiru> you sell HDMI to VGA cables, with no active conversion function... and people return them too...
L664[18:57:17] <Mimiru> but yeah we don't sell defective products...
L665[18:57:32] <malcom2073> Lol, radio shack?
L666[18:57:34] <Dashkal> Sounds like you work for a scam artist...
L667[18:57:34] <Mimiru> So yeah... I still have a job, but I'm jumping ship
L668[18:58:50] <Mimiru> yes, RadioShack
L669[18:59:32] <Lizzy> right, laptop. are you going to shit yourself when i try to run cities skylines this time?
L670[19:01:17] <Mimiru> Old me would have quit on the spot...
L671[19:01:19] <Mimiru> I'm proud of new me
L672[19:01:36] <Xal> I miss the old radio shack
L673[19:02:02] <Xal> you could walk in and buy a 3-pack of resistors for like four dollars
L674[19:02:11] <Mimiru> Xal, they're 2.99
L675[19:02:13] <Mimiru> :P
L676[19:02:20] <Mimiru> for like 4 or 5
L677[19:02:25] <Xal> canada prices :'(
L678[19:02:26] <vifino> malcom2073: Nope.
L679[19:03:16] <Mimiru> Ahh right Canada, you guys ended up with "The Source" after the Canadian RS office didn't pay :P
L680[19:03:57] <Xal> they stripped out all of the old electronic components D:
L681[19:04:23] <Xal> honest question: how often do you have people actually buy hobbyist electronics stuff
L682[19:04:35] <Xal> or is it just "would you like to buy a phone" shack?
L683[19:04:40] <Mimiru> Eh... it's not common
L684[19:04:45] <Mimiru> but not "rare"
L685[19:05:15] <Mimiru> And no.. we don't really sell phones
L686[19:05:21] <Dashkal> If you're in one of the bigger cities you can still find places. But anywhere else now and you look online.
L687[19:05:24] <Mimiru> we have a few Net10 phones... but meh
L688[19:06:21] <Xal> last time I went to the source I asked if they had any solder (there was no electronics hobby stuff any more)
L689[19:06:34] <Xal> they said they don't order it any more and nobody wants to buy it
L690[19:06:43] <Xal> so i ended up with like 10 different spools of solder for free
L691[19:07:10] <Mimiru> Ahh yeah we guy kolks in getting solder, and irons and stuff semi commonly
L692[19:07:54] <Lizzy> gg windows
L693[19:07:56] <Xal> recently got myself a hakko fx888
L694[19:07:59] <Xal> bloody love that thing
L695[19:08:14] <Lizzy> explorer.exe crashes cause it ran out of ram then everything else fucks up
L696[19:08:15] <Xal> s/fx888/fx888d/
L697[19:08:15] <MichiBot> <Xal> recently got myself a hakko fx888d
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L699[19:15:00] <sugoi> s/sugoi/wouldn't know the diff/
L700[19:15:00] <MichiBot> <gamax92> wouldn't know the diff: remember, wtrunc will go as high as it can without going to count
L701[19:16:12] <sugoi> gamax92: ignore that ^ and this <-
L702[19:16:14] <sugoi> :P
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L705[19:39:05] * vifino picks up the very tired Lizzy and carries her to bed
L706[19:39:53] <CompanionCube> ah, explorer
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L709[19:56:14] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Xal: I have one of those (fx888d)
L710[19:57:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I love it
L711[20:00:31] <Xal> I know right? really great iron
L712[20:03:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> It heats up so fast
L713[20:03:22] <SuPeRMiNoR2> The last iron I had was from radioshack
L714[20:03:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Wind would cool it down
L715[20:06:55] <gamax92> I have a lil portable iron
L716[20:07:23] <gamax92> perfect for stabbing peop- erm, I mean soldering things anywhere!
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L718[20:12:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> lol
L719[20:12:25] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I know someone who has a butane portable iron
L720[20:12:28] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I assume it works like shit
L721[20:12:35] <SuPeRMiNoR2> But still cool
L722[20:17:24] <CompanionCube> yay, pi is alive and well
L723[20:17:34] <CompanionCube> just the SD card was ded
L724[20:27:46] <vifino> f.
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