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L11[00:26:47] <Kodos> I'll try that, but I'm not holding my breath
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L19[01:47:12] <Shuudoushi> ...
L20[01:47:27] <Shuudoushi> yep, I'm making KSP 64-bit...
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L25[02:26:34] <alekso56> Shuudoushi: so this is where you've been hiding.
L26[02:26:50] <Shuudoushi> yep
L27[02:26:51] <Shuudoushi> lol
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L36[03:59:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Can I laugh at you off of my high Linux throne where KSP 64-bit worked flawlessly since Squad introduced 64-bit mode?
L37[04:01:23] <Shuudoushi> huh, that hasn't happened in awhile
L38[04:01:32] <Shuudoushi> hexchat just fully locked up on me
L39[04:01:35] <Shuudoushi> but
L40[04:01:39] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: sucka dick
L41[04:02:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Always. :P
L42[04:06:49] <Shuudoushi> lol... according to FARs analysis thing, I have to be going at least Mach 0.7 to be able to takeoff...
L43[04:08:20] <DeanIsaKitty> How can you fuck up a plane that bad?
L44[04:09:02] <Shuudoushi> not a clue...
L45[04:09:10] <Shuudoushi> oh wait
L46[04:09:18] <Shuudoushi> by starting to build it without FAR
L47[04:09:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Send me a picture of SPH with COL, COM and COT and I might be able to help you :P
L48[04:09:43] <Shuudoushi> so I made it look cool as well as fly well, but FAR fucked me on that one >.>
L49[04:10:08] <DeanIsaKitty> But you can easily have good looking and flying well.
L50[04:10:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, depending on what you call good looking.
L51[04:10:21] <Shuudoushi> http://puu.sh/mNXs0/fc50263424.png
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L53[04:10:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Thrust?
L54[04:11:05] <Shuudoushi> it's there
L55[04:11:10] <Shuudoushi> all the way at the back
L56[04:11:11] <DeanIsaKitty> No shit sherlock.
L57[04:11:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Amount of?
L58[04:12:06] <Shuudoushi> two whiplashes, 386.6 at max each
L59[04:12:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Do you have procedual wings?
L60[04:12:42] <Shuudoushi> before FAR, this thing would cruise at M 1.6 fully loaded (over 30 tons)
L61[04:12:50] <Shuudoushi> some of them
L62[04:12:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah yeah, the COL is way to far bac,
L63[04:12:59] <DeanIsaKitty> *back
L64[04:14:09] <DeanIsaKitty> get a straight leading edge, 35 degree or something and move it up front until the COL is just barely behind the COM. As in touching
L65[04:14:10] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: any further forward, it'll start to pass COM http://puu.sh/mNXAh/c2f50c913a.png
L66[04:14:46] <DeanIsaKitty> How high do you want to go?
L67[04:15:16] <Shuudoushi> eh, not far, about 3~5 KM
L68[04:15:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Eh then thats ok
L69[04:15:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Also make sure the COT is not even a millimeter above the COM
L70[04:15:59] <Shuudoushi> slightly below it
L71[04:16:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Thats ok
L72[04:16:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Unless you go too far into supersonic that is
L73[04:16:26] <Shuudoushi> and by slightly, I mean http://puu.sh/mNXFi/e6e4ab0e0b.png
L74[04:16:42] <DeanIsaKitty> COT = Center of Thrust
L75[04:16:47] <Shuudoushi> mach 2 or 3 is about as much as this thing should see
L76[04:16:47] <DeanIsaKitty> the pinkish one
L77[04:17:21] <DeanIsaKitty> COL seems to be perfectly in line with COM though. Which is good
L78[04:17:21] <Shuudoushi> camera moved while taking the screen shot... http://puu.sh/mNXHa/5a94544b53.png
L79[04:18:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Look at the plane from behind in a way that the direction vector out of the COT becomes a point and send me that screenshot. Way more accurate
L80[04:18:15] <Shuudoushi> I was wanting to go just a bit below, to get more maneuverability, but the AI is having a hard enough time lol
L81[04:18:35] <DeanIsaKitty> You can go below, but only and only if you stay subsonic.
L82[04:18:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Sonic physics are crazy as fuck.
L83[04:19:35] <Shuudoushi> lol
L84[04:19:35] <Shuudoushi> http://puu.sh/mNXMc/43ce53972a.png
L85[04:19:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Thats ok
L86[04:19:54] <Shuudoushi> that's about as lined up as I can get it
L87[04:20:23] <Shuudoushi> lol, http://puu.sh/mNXNN/3766acbeaa.png
L88[04:21:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Now get out the trusty ol' FAR simulator and simulate 0.86, 1.3 and 1.6 Mach. Flight pattern should be stable for 30, 20 and 10 degree respectively. If not that design won't fly too well.
L89[04:21:19] <Shuudoushi> I might just install the B9 stuff now that I have 64-bit working
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L91[04:21:44] <DeanIsaKitty> http://i.imgur.com/UzDtVQ3.png Hmm....
L92[04:22:19] <Shuudoushi> nice
L93[04:23:24] <Shuudoushi> I don't know what I'm looking at here... http://puu.sh/mNXUg/7dfac82e2d.png
L94[04:23:38] <Shuudoushi> this is after clicking the 'run sim' button
L95[04:23:52] <DeanIsaKitty> That's your stability derivates.
L96[04:24:36] <DeanIsaKitty> How much do you know about aerodynamics? <.<
L97[04:25:14] <Shuudoushi> aircraft aero? almost nothing
L98[04:25:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Other types of aerodynamics?
L99[04:25:56] <Shuudoushi> I can make a car stick to roof at 200 mph
L100[04:26:03] <Shuudoushi> to you roof*
L101[04:26:23] <Shuudoushi> but it's a lot harder to make lift then downforce
L102[04:26:33] <DeanIsaKitty> So you have at least a background in phyisics, that makes all of this a bit easier ^^
L103[04:26:40] <Shuudoushi> lol
L104[04:26:41] <Shuudoushi> no
L105[04:26:53] <Shuudoushi> not really*
L106[04:27:01] <Shuudoushi> fuck you too keyboard -_-
L107[04:27:29] <Shuudoushi> I can do stuff practically, doing the math never works right for me >.>
L108[04:28:22] <Shuudoushi> also, with cars, you don't shift weight and go through as extreme of changes in air dens and such
L109[04:28:35] <Shuudoushi> as aircraft
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L111[04:29:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Do you at least like maths? :P
L112[04:29:50] * Shuudoushi slaps DeanIsaKitty for such a rude statement.
L113[04:29:50] * EnderBot2 high-fives Shuudoushi
L114[04:29:54] <Shuudoushi> but no
L115[04:30:11] <Shuudoushi> I'm good at it, but I fucking hate it
L116[04:30:19] <DeanIsaKitty> I love maths and the maths connected to aerodynamics. No need to slap me you bastard.
L117[04:30:26] <Shuudoushi> XD
L118[04:31:01] <Shuudoushi> I mostly don't understand why this graph didn't change...
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L120[04:32:06] <Shuudoushi> I need way more low speed lift, I know that much at least...
L121[04:32:14] <DeanIsaKitty> Ok, so stabilty derivates mean (on a very, very basicl level) the stability of your aircraft in certain situations.
L122[04:32:22] <Shuudoushi> and tilting the wings a few degrees is a bag idea...
L123[04:33:06] <DeanIsaKitty> These certain situations are airflow from a direction v.
L124[04:33:32] <Shuudoushi> you can skip the 101 portion
L125[04:33:46] <DeanIsaKitty> You just asked what you are looking at
L126[04:33:51] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm explaining it.
L127[04:33:57] <Shuudoushi> with the simulator
L128[04:34:36] <Shuudoushi> this screen just confuses the piss out of me for some reason... http://puu.sh/mNYix/c400ada003.png
L129[04:34:56] <DeanIsaKitty> That is why I'm trying to explain shit to you.
L130[04:35:13] <Shuudoushi> very well, sorry for interrupting
L131[04:37:53] <Shuudoushi> this green line just doesn't look right... http://puu.sh/mNYnG/b3ca1945da.png
L132[04:38:03] <DeanIsaKitty> u is flow in Z dir, so fwd/bwd; w is flow in Y dir, so up/down. If you give Init u and Init w a value, set the time frame (End time) and the resolution (dT, derivative of time ffs) you get your stability waves
L133[04:38:22] <DeanIsaKitty> What?
L134[04:38:30] <DeanIsaKitty> No, the green line looks perfect.
L135[04:38:48] <Shuudoushi> key dif with aircraft and car aero then
L136[04:39:06] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm much more worried with your pressure differential along your wings.
L137[04:39:18] <Shuudoushi> yeah...
L138[04:39:36] <Shuudoushi> I still can't figure out why it keeps doing that
L139[04:39:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Keeps doing *what*
L140[04:39:56] <Shuudoushi> freaking out
L141[04:40:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Don't play the pronoung game, I hate that -.-
L142[04:40:15] <Shuudoushi> lol
L143[04:40:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, its an airplane and you're using FAR. There is a reason why you can study airplane physics.
L144[04:41:00] <Shuudoushi> the blue line keeps changing almost every time I turn it off and on, even when I don't change anything
L145[04:41:22] <DeanIsaKitty> It should not, that one should be pretty static
L146[04:43:02] <Shuudoushi> green and yellow are vry static for me, but blue looses its fucking shit
L147[04:44:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Do you change something in the simulation?
L148[04:44:51] <Shuudoushi> no
L149[04:44:51] <DeanIsaKitty> As in air speed or other values?
L150[04:44:57] <Shuudoushi> no
L151[04:45:13] <DeanIsaKitty> So you just click the lowest checkbox and stuff changes?
L152[04:45:23] <Shuudoushi> more or less
L153[04:45:46] <DeanIsaKitty> <.<
L154[04:45:54] <Shuudoushi> and my flaps don't work... that answers a few questions...
L155[04:46:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Flaps are not really important on such a small craft
L156[04:46:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Especially given KSP indestructible landing gears.
L157[04:47:32] <Shuudoushi> I fixed that with a mod >.>
L158[04:48:11] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm pretty sure if you'd apply the whipsy terran landing gears to a plane in KSP it would break apart on the runway.
L159[04:48:21] <Shuudoushi> XD
L160[04:52:30] <Shuudoushi> lol, my pods tab disappeared XD http://puu.sh/mNYWW/0eb1a0354d.png
L161[04:59:31] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: on the changing of the blue line, seems to change when I leave and reenter the SPH
L162[04:59:50] <Shuudoushi> even though no settings or parts were touched and stayed the same
L163[05:02:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Hmm. Is FAR so realistic that it simluates pressure changes due to daylight cycle? x)
L164[05:02:37] <Shuudoushi> ...
L165[05:02:53] <Shuudoushi> normally I would called you stupid... but that's what I was thinking...
L166[05:03:22] <Shuudoushi> it seems that my keyboard can no longer control my pitch yaw etc...
L167[05:03:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Given that I know a tad more about (plane) aerodynamics than you it would not be very productive calling me stupid ;)
L168[05:03:40] <Shuudoushi> not an issue that I've ever had before...
L169[05:03:51] <Shuudoushi> lol
L170[05:04:43] <Shuudoushi> oh wait...
L171[05:05:13] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: youthink my current control issue could be b/c I still have the 32-bit ver of advance fly-by-wire installed/
L172[05:05:47] <DeanIsaKitty> I never touched 32 bit, no idea what issues could be. I just use native x64.
L173[05:06:03] <Shuudoushi> show off >.>
L174[05:06:24] <Shuudoushi> well, I'm going to uninstall it and install b( stuff while I'm at it
L175[05:06:24] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm sorry you're not capable of using a proper OS.
L176[05:06:31] <Shuudoushi> I am
L177[05:06:44] <Shuudoushi> just too fucking lazy to do so >.
L178[05:06:47] <Shuudoushi> >.>*
L179[05:07:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Are you also to lazy to do the maths necessary for designing a proper plane?
L180[05:07:43] <Shuudoushi> no, those just break the brain
L181[05:07:59] <Shuudoushi> (I'm currently 2 days into no sleep)
L182[05:08:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Not mine apparently, so ... point?
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L184[05:35:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Hmm, I think I overscaled a little bit http://i.imgur.com/34dOatO.png
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L186[05:44:49] * vifino groans and falls over
L187[05:44:58] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: lmao
L188[05:59:27] <scj643> Can more cores increase pi computation speed?
L189[06:05:42] <Lizzy> meep
L190[06:06:14] * vifino stands up and tumbles towards Lizzy
L191[06:07:00] <scj643> Lizzy pi fs have you heard of it
L192[06:07:24] <Lizzy> no?
L193[06:07:26] <scj643> https://github.com/philipl/pifs
L194[06:07:33] * Lizzy catches vifino
L195[06:07:41] <Lizzy> will look on my lunch break
L196[06:07:45] <scj643> Got an idea it could be used for compression
L197[06:08:14] <scj643> Wonder why no one thought of this for high long term compression
L198[06:08:37] <scj643> Pi is always pi and never changes
L199[06:08:53] <scj643> And has an even distribution of every number
L200[06:09:26] <scj643> If you could calculate pi in hexadecimal it makes sense
L201[06:09:31] * vifino snuggles and kisses Lizzy
L202[06:10:44] * Lizzy snuggles vifino back
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L204[06:18:46] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: http://puu.sh/mO2h6/dd0827c56c.png
L205[06:19:15] <Shuudoushi> still takes a whole runway to takeoff and wants to keep rolling, but at least now it can get in the air :D
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L208[06:28:11] <mpmxyz> Good Afternoon!
L209[06:29:54] <Lizzy> o/
L210[06:32:09] <malcom2073> Needs a Fast 5 runway
L211[06:32:11] <malcom2073> 50 miles long
L212[06:37:02] <mpmxyz> Do you know any redstone library for OC?
L213[06:37:54] <Shuudoushi> why lib?
L214[06:38:00] <Shuudoushi> why a lib?*
L215[06:39:56] <mpmxyz> I'm just asking if there is something that makes using redstone easier. (easier->less bloated code/complex functions already written)
L216[06:40:11] <Shuudoushi> kinda
L217[06:40:24] <Shuudoushi> /bin/redstone.lua
L218[06:40:39] <Shuudoushi> that's got the info in it for making a lib
L219[06:40:51] <mpmxyz> Hmm...
L220[06:42:44] <Shuudoushi> I'm pretty sure a few 'function redstone.setWirelessOutput(value)'s here and there will get you the start of what you need
L221[06:43:30] <Shuudoushi> in fact, give me like 5 min and I'll make you a lib
L222[06:44:23] <Shuudoushi> be buggier than fuck and will likely crash you r whole computer, but hey :D (I'm working on like no sleep here >.>)
L223[06:44:52] <mpmxyz> Thanks, but I already have something. I wanted to know if it makes sense to write the documentation and publish it to the forum.
L224[06:44:55] <Shuudoushi> but no, really, it shouldn't be to much trouble to toss together a lib for ya
L225[06:45:04] <Shuudoushi> ah
L226[06:45:16] <Shuudoushi> I guess it could
L227[06:45:43] <Shuudoushi> bundled cable stuff tends to be a massive pain at times
L228[06:46:06] <mpmxyz> Functions:
L229[06:46:26] <mpmxyz> rstools.analog(typ, address, side, color) -> {some methods and __call metatable}
L230[06:46:32] <mpmxyz> rstools.digital(typ, address, side, color) -> {some methods and __call metatable}
L231[06:46:33] <Shuudoushi> if ya go some stuff that will auto do the colors and all for that at the very least, someone should be able to put it to great use
L232[06:47:01] <mpmxyz> I'll write the documentation.
L233[06:47:07] <Shuudoushi> and I forgot a comma...
L234[06:47:47] <Shuudoushi> I'm going to try and get some sleep before I start coming across as a total ass...
L235[06:48:03] <Shuudoushi> well.. more than usual that is
L236[06:48:40] <Shuudoushi> hmmm, seems hexchat really doesn't like me getting pinged tonight...
L237[06:49:41] <Lizzy> lol
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L239[06:54:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Looks nice :P
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L242[06:56:44] <mpmxyz> http://pastebin.com/YCu98ML2
L243[06:57:05] <mpmxyz> Just an example for the usage of the library.
L244[07:00:39] * Sharidan searches for coffee ...
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L249[07:04:46] <Shuudoushi> http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QDilZVNFTys/VN5IxBDrE6I/AAAAAAAACJM/vcHYmXV4Eyw/w380-h252-no/15+-+1.gif
L250[07:09:13] <Sharidan> that would be Shuu fighting bugs :P
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L252[07:10:59] <mpmxyz> My cat just walked over my keyboard. -.-
L253[07:11:21] <Sharidan> only one thing worse than that ... cat using keyboard as bed
L254[07:11:40] <vifino> that's not worse, that is adorable.
L255[07:11:50] <Lizzy> windows please get your shit together with your network routes
L256[07:11:58] <Sharidan> worse if your trying to fix a bug :p
L257[07:12:21] <Sharidan> other than that I agree vifino :)
L258[07:13:50] <Sharidan> huh?!? the computronics ticket machine doesnt require ink?
L259[07:29:02] <MajGenRelativity> thanks to Inari and Kodos, my chat program is now functional and released!
L260[07:46:54] <DeanIsaKitty> All hail Inari?
L261[07:48:32] <MajGenRelativity> yes
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L266[07:55:50] <MajGenRelativity> who knows, I may even expand it to use the ocranet
L267[07:55:55] <MajGenRelativity> Minecraft IRC XD
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L271[08:09:14] <Mimiru> Yay migraine from hell, and since I had to switch my usual day off for Wednesday I work today
L272[08:09:38] <MajGenRelativity> my condolences
L273[08:10:11] <Mimiru> It's all good, I'm gonna go to work, and puke all over the place
L274[08:11:34] * MajGenRelativity gives thumbs up
L275[08:25:50] <MajGenRelativity> quick question
L276[08:26:01] <MajGenRelativity> how many lines of code can a T3 CPU execute per second
L277[08:28:19] <Sharidan> depends on the commands
L278[08:28:38] * Sharidan flipping notes ...
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L280[08:29:24] <Sharidan> a T3 GPU has 256 budget points
L281[08:29:32] <MajGenRelativity> not a GPU, CPU
L282[08:29:45] <Sharidan> oh my bad
L283[08:30:01] <Sharidan> there's still some kind of budgetting going on
L284[08:30:49] <Sharidan> but it's quite a bit of code
L285[08:31:19] <Sharidan> CMB is ~50kb of code and it all executes rather quickly on a T3 CPU
L286[08:36:01] <Magik6k> %tell Sangar how do I make custom slot in tablet(lie for a smartcard)
L287[08:36:03] <MichiBot> Magik6k: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L288[08:36:27] <Skye> Beep
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L293[08:50:39] <Myrex> can anyone help me? wiki says that OC has some integration with logistic pipes. i tried different pipes with adapter but all appeared as "bc_pipe" and doesn't have any useful methods. so there is a question - that kind of integration mentioned in wiki?
L294[08:51:39] <Sharidan> Myrex: go on the forums and fetch CMB --> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/835-cmb-component-methods-browser/
L295[08:52:09] <Sharidan> you'll need an internet card to download it to your OC computer. it's a tool that lets you browse methods of external components
L296[08:52:22] <Sharidan> you can browse methods for any attached component
L297[08:56:09] <Myrex> well, i can easily browse methods by lua shell, but i'm did't find any logistic pipes-related methods when attaching any pipe to adapter, so i'm asking is there only a certain types of tubes hase some methods or there not real LP drivers at all?
L298[08:58:23] <Sharidan> Myrex: I honestly don't know what logistics pipes exposes in terms of methods and which parts to interface with
L299[08:58:46] <Myrex> tt
L300[08:58:53] <Myrex> anyone else?
L301[08:58:54] <Sharidan> I would try to attach a bunch of different LP pipes and stuff and then just browse them with CMB
L302[08:59:20] <Myrex> did than, nothinh intresting so far, so i came to aks
L303[08:59:25] <Myrex> ask*
L304[08:59:26] <Michiyo> LP support is in the LP mod itself.. it's possible something has broken on their end
L305[08:59:53] <Michiyo> LP version, and OC version?
L306[09:00:45] <Michiyo> Ahh
L307[09:00:48] <Michiyo> NVM I see the issue I think
L308[09:01:31] <Myrex> OC 1.5.21, LP 0.9.3.70 if it matters
L309[09:01:40] <Michiyo> OpenComputers@1.3
L310[09:01:49] <Michiyo> https://github.com/RS485/LogisticsPipes/blob/stable/common/logisticspipes/pipes/basic/LogisticsTileGenericPipe.java#L87
L311[09:02:05] <Michiyo> Looks like LP is hard depending on oc 1.3, and only 1.3
L312[09:02:17] <Michiyo> https://github.com/RS485/LogisticsPipes/issues/821
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L314[09:02:57] <Myrex> that a shame...
L315[09:03:11] <Michiyo> Looks like it's fixed in one of the dev branches, no idea if it's being built though
L316[09:03:19] <Myrex> well thaks for pointing me to known isuues
L317[09:03:39] <Michiyo> Stable-bc7 doesn't have that line
L318[09:04:50] <Michiyo> yeah, the bc-7 branch uses public static final String openComputersModID = "OpenComputers";
L319[09:04:53] <Michiyo> So it should work
L320[09:05:11] <Myrex> hm
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L322[09:05:32] <Myrex> i'll see, thanks again
L323[09:09:55] <Michiyo> and yeah you're on 0.9.3.70 which is bc-7
L324[09:09:57] <Michiyo> idk..
L325[09:10:02] <Michiyo> at one point though it was fixed on 1.3
L326[09:10:17] <Myrex> nope, latest version is exactly same that i'm useg, so it's still broken
L327[09:11:18] <Michiyo> well by fixed on 1.3 I meant using a hard coded 1.3 detection
L328[09:11:46] <Michiyo> I'm at work ATM so I can't go super into detail on the code though
L329[09:12:28] <Myrex> NVM it's still not OC trouble at all
L330[09:13:07] <Myrex> it's propaly best for me to go to LP channel)
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L332[09:22:42] <Lizzy> Michiyo, LP updated to the latest OC at some point
L333[09:22:55] <Lizzy> make sure you have the latest of both and it should work
L334[09:27:12] <Myrex> it doesn't work and LP issue in bugtracker still opened so not only me have that trouble
L335[09:29:05] <Myrex> and sadly there is no activity in LP repos for two months, so mod is quite stalled
L336[09:29:18] <Michiyo> Lizzy: he has the latest with the fix
L337[09:34:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: http://i.imgur.com/35nirAF.png Also a max of 6 Meganewton thrust at Mach 4.5 because fuck everything behind this plane in particular.
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L339[09:36:25] <Michiyo> DeanIsaKitty: When you absolutly HAVE to go forward RIGHT, FUCKING, NOW.
L340[09:36:26] <Michiyo> lol
L341[09:37:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Michiyo: Well, its built for Supersonic speeds above 2 mach as cruising speed so yeah go figure ^^
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L343[09:43:05] <MajGenRelativity> gotta go fast
L344[09:45:18] <MajGenRelativity> speaking of gotta go fast, the whooT chat program has to go through several revisions
L345[09:47:31] <MajGenRelativity> whoo
L346[09:47:44] * MajGenRelativity downloads whooT to Vista02
L347[09:47:54] <MajGenRelativity> ?
L348[09:47:58] <MajGenRelativity> He didn't crash?
L349[09:48:18] <MajGenRelativity> Did he install Service Pack 1&2? :P
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L365[11:21:23] <Kodos> o7
L366[11:23:37] <Michiyo> o/
L367[11:24:13] <Michiyo> yay got my IRS Transcripts today, which means the IRS finally processed my taxes
L368[11:26:35] <Kodos> Bout fuckin time
L369[11:26:58] <Michiyo> Right?
L370[11:27:00] <Michiyo> lol
L371[11:27:10] <Michiyo> means my DD should be.. next week or so
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L376[11:41:20] <Inari> "Experiments on subatomic particles over the past 50 years ago show that Nature doesn't treat both directions of time equally." "In particular, subatomic particles called K and B mesons behave slightly differently depending on the direction of time."
L377[11:41:20] <Inari> "When this subtle behaviour is included in a model of the universe, what we see is the universe changing from being fixed at one moment in time to continuously evolving." "In other words, the subtle behaviour appears to be responsible for making the universe move forwards in time." :o
L378[11:42:36] <mpmxyz> Is the repository list of OPPM updated or is it a dead project?
L379[11:46:57] <Kodos> afaik oppm isn't dead
L380[11:50:54] <Michiyo> No, oppm isn't dead. Vexatos is active, and ^v is here to run updates whenever.. why?
L381[11:51:04] <Michiyo> vex isn't here *now* but is here often.
L382[11:53:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: It mostly just connects entrophy to time. We just can't really imagine a world of decreasing enthropy.
L383[11:54:00] <Inari> well its still interseting :p
L384[11:54:24] <DeanIsaKitty> I never said its not. :p
L385[11:54:30] <Inari> xD
L386[11:54:40] <Inari> "mostly just" suggests a "meh"
L387[11:55:35] <Michiyo> mpmxyz: why?
L388[11:55:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, blatantly stating that the universe moves forward in time and has to do so because of *reason* is .. blatant :P
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L390[11:55:57] <Inari> i wonder when we'll have butt controls
L391[11:56:16] <DeanIsaKitty> What? <.<
L392[11:56:31] <Inari> http://abload.de/img/photo-14391-eb60ba5a043i0.gif
L393[11:57:11] <Skye> Inari, wat
L394[11:57:23] <DeanIsaKitty> They do exists though. But most people call them "boyfriends" ^^
L395[11:57:34] <Inari> lol
L396[11:57:40] <Inari> im nto sure this helps me control computers with my butt
L397[11:57:41] <Inari> but sure
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L399[11:58:02] <Kodos> I know when my wife uses her butt, it controls my computer to the point of turning off
L400[11:58:10] <Kodos> Ayyyy
L401[11:58:26] <Inari> she sat on it and ti collapsed?
L402[11:58:55] <Michiyo> -_-
L403[11:59:18] <Kodos> No, she shakes it and I turn the PC off and go after her
L404[11:59:27] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: well i dontk now physics well enough to say much on it :P
L405[11:59:44] <Inari> why would you turn the PC off
L406[12:00:07] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: http://phys.org/news/2016-01-space-universal-symmetry.html
L407[12:00:30] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Sex. Thats what butt control boils down :P
L408[12:00:38] <DeanIsaKitty> down to *
L409[12:00:42] <Inari> :P
L410[12:01:10] <Inari> sounds like anal sex thouhg :<
L411[12:01:17] <DeanIsaKitty> xD
L412[12:03:00] <Michiyo> Oh hey... lunch
L413[12:03:08] <Michiyo> afk
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L415[12:06:09] <vifino> /usr/include/bits/stdlib.h:90:3: error: #error "Assumed value of MB_LEN_MAX wrong"
L416[12:06:14] <vifino> welp
L417[12:07:22] <Inari> communism is everywhere
L418[12:08:00] <vifino> no ling vm for me, i gues
L419[12:08:01] <vifino> ._.
L420[12:09:50] <Inari> but im le tired
L421[12:11:14] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR1oAXaPLMo
L422[12:11:16] <MichiBot> Inari: A LOVELY BABY | Ashens | length: 1m 13s | Likes: 1800 Dislikes: 14 Views: 12684 | by ashens
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L425[12:21:16] <Kodos> Anyone familiar with Natura
L426[12:22:13] <Inari> somewhat?
L427[12:22:44] <Kodos> The flesh blocks that are in the nether, can those be turned into raw meat from MFR
L428[12:23:12] <Inari> why MFR?
L429[12:23:44] <Kodos> Meat ingots are food, but since they're 'ingots', I can use Stacks on Stacks to stack them
L430[12:25:02] <Inari> sure but meat ingots arent made from blocks as far as i recall?
L431[12:25:49] <Kodos> I know. But I saw a picture awhile ago that showed the flesh blocks from natura being crafted into raw meat ingots
L432[12:26:01] <Kodos> So I'm wondering if they'r not considered the 3x3 ingot storage block for raw meat
L433[12:26:06] <Kodos> And was hoping someone could confirm
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L438[12:55:54] <Inari> https://twitter.com/ListsOfNote/status/693101094961070080
L439[12:55:56] <MichiBot> Fri Jan 29 09:59:12 CST 2016 @ListsOfNote: Nihilistic Password Security Questions https://t.co/6XePi9PvIq
L440[13:01:41] <Sharidan> hmm ... how would I go about detecting T1 screen blocks?
L441[13:02:09] <Kodos> I've been wanting a way to check the tiers of components for some time
L442[13:02:28] <Sharidan> yeah that'd be nice to have ... same for hdd/floppy
L443[13:03:27] <Sharidan> I've run into a nice little curiosity: I've got a T1 graphics card hooked to T2 screen blocks: touch & mouse works
L444[13:03:48] <Sharidan> of course touch/mouse wont work on T1 screen blocks
L445[13:04:39] <Sharidan> would be nice to have a way of detecting when touch/mouse is unavable, so the UI can be changed accordingly
L446[13:06:21] <Saphire> Um..
L447[13:11:13] <Kodos> With screens, even something as simple as checking color depth would allow for checking the tier
L448[13:11:29] <Sharidan> nope, that only works for the gpu mate
L449[13:12:40] <Kodos> Right, but screens still have a maximum color depth
L450[13:12:47] <Kodos> Each tier has a different one
L451[13:13:04] <Kodos> Even with a T3 GPU, a t1 screen still only supports a CD of 1
L452[13:13:48] <Sharidan> that much is true, however touch/mouse events will be available on a T3 GPU with T1 screens attached
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L455[13:14:41] <^v4> Oh noes! brutus split 3:
L456[13:14:42] <^v> Oh noes! brutus split 3:
L457[13:15:13] <Saphire> A what split?
L458[13:15:18] <Sharidan> sorry - the other way around. with a T1 GPU and T2/T3 screens attached, touch/mouse events are active, but can only display black & white
L459[13:15:35] <Sharidan> net split
L460[13:15:43] <Sharidan> parts of espernet got disconnected from other parts
L461[13:16:53] <Kodos> Is there a way to check whether a function would succeed without actually triggering the function?
L462[13:17:38] <Sharidan> don't think so
L463[13:17:52] <Inari> Kodos: how would that work
L464[13:18:34] <Kodos> I dunno, I was just wondering if there was a way to, for example, check if a screen's touchMode can be inverted, without actually inverting it
L465[13:18:59] <Sharidan> hmm ... interesting idea ..
L466[13:19:07] * Sharidan boots up another trial ...
L467[13:19:21] <Inari> touchmode?
L468[13:19:55] <Sharidan> yeah - there's an option where you can invert touch mode to require sneaking to open the UI vs. not sneaking
L469[13:19:57] <Michiyo> yes, you can switch the touchmode on a screen so that you have to shiftclick the open the UI iirc
L470[13:20:09] <Michiyo> damn... missed it by THAT much..
L471[13:20:17] <Sharidan> sowwy Michiyo <3
L472[13:20:58] <Kodos> touchMode inversion is only available on a T3 screen, so if the method -would- work, that means you can check for T3 screen
L473[13:20:58] <Inari> ~oc screen
L474[13:20:58] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:screen
L475[13:21:06] <Sharidan> I'm working on a new app and needed a way to detect if touch/mouse is available, so I can change the UI if not available
L476[13:21:13] <Inari> well
L477[13:21:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: If the function is only then *available* you can just check for nil
L478[13:21:41] <Inari> or if it isnt you could just cache the setting
L479[13:21:42] <Sharidan> http://www.sharidan.dk/upload/todo-button2.png
L480[13:21:44] <Kodos> I'm not sure the function disappears on a lower tier screen
L481[13:21:44] <Inari> call it with changed setting
L482[13:21:46] <Inari> see if it changed
L483[13:21:52] <Inari> revert it
L484[13:21:54] <Inari> and return the result :p
L485[13:21:58] <Kodos> Speaking of TODO
L486[13:22:08] <Kodos> What is that exactly? I noticed vim highlighted it for me
L487[13:22:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: Otherwiese make a sorta ./configure script that checks settings by executing them and creates a cache as Inari said
L488[13:22:19] <Inari> its...
L489[13:22:20] <Inari> TODO :p
L490[13:22:26] <Sharidan> need to remove the buttons at the bottom of the screen if touch/mouse is not available
L491[13:22:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: TODO and FIXME are just vim specific highlights.
L492[13:22:29] <Kodos> Obviously I know it means that item is on the todo list
L493[13:22:42] <Kodos> Ohh, so you can mark broken/unfinished shit?
L494[13:22:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah
L495[13:22:49] <Kodos> Nifty
L496[13:22:56] <Inari> sublime or atom had taht too
L497[13:23:04] <DeanIsaKitty> They both suck though :P
L498[13:23:09] <Inari> nah
L499[13:23:12] <Inari> both are good
L500[13:23:13] <Inari> :D
L501[13:23:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Atom sucks in every way possible, sublime is good software with bad licensing.
L502[13:23:56] <Inari> atom is pretty good
L503[13:24:58] <Dashkal> I want to love vim, I really do... but... I don't think I'll ever get used to the cursor-on-character model.
L504[13:25:05] <alekso56> wait, don't you need an high end gaming rig to run atom in large projects?
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L507[13:25:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Its written in Coffeescript and CSS so pretty much, yeah
L508[13:25:48] <Inari> dunno atom used to be kinda sluggish but now its pretty nice
L509[13:25:54] <alekso56> damn, almost 60fps in atom :l
L510[13:26:08] <Skye> DeanIsaKitty, I bet it's partially made in that because cross platform is hard
L511[13:26:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Skye: No, its really not
L512[13:26:32] <Inari> its nicely hackable, its cross platform and it works, so i like it
L513[13:26:33] <Inari> xD
L514[13:26:34] <Sharidan> interesting ..
L515[13:26:57] <alekso56> Inari: i guess it's neat as a tiny project script maker.
L516[13:26:59] <Sharidan> \o/ !!!
L517[13:27:07] <Sharidan> found a nifty way of detecting T1 screens
L518[13:27:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Vim and Emacs are nicely hackabe, cross platform, work and are also fast :P
L519[13:27:11] <Inari> alekso56: i dont really see why it would become any more laggy in a big project
L520[13:27:21] <vifino> I need to do more stuff with erlang and elixir...
L521[13:27:23] <Kodos> I use Atom for writing markdown things
L522[13:27:26] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: they're both ugly, lack a good interface and arent as nicely hackable :P
L523[13:27:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: False, false and false :3
L524[13:27:43] <Sharidan> if (not screen.isTouchModeInverted) then print("T1 screen") end
L525[13:27:44] <vifino> ^
L526[13:27:48] <Kodos> I'm still wanting to find something I can use that I can reference something from File B in File A (Both files have to be open), and it'll know what i'm talking about
L527[13:27:50] <DeanIsaKitty> Or, objective, objective, FALSE.
L528[13:27:57] <vifino> ^
L529[13:27:59] <Dashkal> subjective?
L530[13:28:06] <DeanIsaKitty> yeah that one
L531[13:28:07] <Skye> DeanIsaKitty, what do you think about IntelliJ IDEA?
L532[13:28:08] <Inari> lol
L533[13:28:09] <vifino> ^
L534[13:28:11] <Inari> dil
L535[13:28:14] <Inari> *fail
L536[13:28:16] <vifino> ^
L537[13:28:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Skye: Want a long or a false rant?
L538[13:28:19] * vifino runs
L539[13:28:26] <Skye> uhhhh
L540[13:28:35] <Dashkal> I agree they're both ugly as hell, and the interface learning curve requires rock climbing training. But hackable? The only thing more hackable is the source code directly...
L541[13:28:36] * Inari pistols Lizzy at vifino
L542[13:28:41] <Skye> I need to eat dinner now
L543[13:28:42] <Michiyo> Sharidan: but.. won't that return that it's a T1 on a T3 with touch mode inverted?
L544[13:28:51] <Inari> Dashkal: what do you code plugins in?
L545[13:28:54] <Dashkal> I hate IntelliJ, and use it exclusively, because I hate everything else more...
L546[13:28:55] <vifino> Inari: You mylastename Lizzy at me?
L547[13:28:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Skye: Short version: Its a nice IDE :)
L548[13:29:05] <Sharidan> doesnt matter which graphics card it is, if it's T1 screen block(s) that method doesnt exist
L549[13:29:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Python, Ruby, VimScript, Lua for vim, ELisp for Emacs.
L550[13:29:17] <Kodos> Good to know, Shari
L551[13:29:18] <Dashkal> Inari: I'd code plugins for vim/emacs in vim/emacs... The internal support is very good in both cases.
L552[13:29:20] <Sharidan> tested it on T1 screen blocks with all 3 tiers of GPUs
L553[13:29:24] <Inari> well thats okay i guess :P
L554[13:29:34] <Inari> so its still ugly and has a crappy UX
L555[13:29:38] <Michiyo> Sure... but a t3 Screen with inverted touchmode would trigger the same check
L556[13:29:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Other than Atom where its literally the worst language ever.
L557[13:29:53] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: hm? js?
L558[13:29:58] <Dashkal> 'Crappy UX' is subjective, since it depends on what you want. The UX is pretty good when having that much power is the point.
L559[13:30:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: I don't think so. I like vim very much. Also both have GUIs too.
L560[13:30:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Yep.
L561[13:30:06] <Sharidan> if (screen.isTouchModeInverted) then ... is a property/method check - not executing
L562[13:30:07] <Dashkal> If all you want to do is edit a text file, they're the wrong tool.
L563[13:30:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Compared to ..?
L564[13:30:21] <Inari> Dashkal: if all i wanted was a textfile, they'd do
L565[13:30:35] <Michiyo> Sharidan: I'm aware.... but go execute that on a t3 screen so that it's inverted, then run your check
L566[13:30:35] <Dashkal> Hell no, vim/emacs require way too much learning for basic functionality
L567[13:30:40] <Dashkal> Nano
L568[13:30:45] <Michiyo> your check will say that it's a t1.
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L570[13:30:53] <Dashkal> The keystrokes you need are right there on the screen
L571[13:30:58] <Inari> just saying that i'd put up with the interface for that XD
L572[13:31:04] <Sharidan> so if .isTouchModeInverted = nil then it's a T1 screen, because T1 screens don't have that method. on T2 or T3 screens that method does exist
L573[13:31:39] <Dashkal> When I want code navigation, multiple files, tooling integration, and I need it to run in a console because I'm remoting, I reach for vim (and emacs works as well for those who have learned it)
L574[13:31:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: If you only ever want to edit one textfile nano is good. But vi is more accessible on pretty much any unix and its one thing to learn more or less.
L575[13:31:51] <Dashkal> But to edit a config file? nano.
L576[13:32:00] <Inari> well im not remoting so i go with a prettier and nicer editor that works well
L577[13:32:00] <Dashkal> DeanIsaKitty: See what I said just before you hit enter
L578[13:32:01] <Kodos> I wonder if this would work: (Code incoming)
L579[13:32:16] <Dashkal> Oh yes, if you're only ever working local, use something that makes good use of your pixels.
L580[13:32:30] <Kodos> Actually nvm
L581[13:32:43] <vifino> S3: Aren't you using erlang too? Tip: Fuck rebar, use MAD instead, fully compatible, but smaller and faster :D https://github.com/synrc/mad
L582[13:32:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: There are several Guis for both vim and emacs and they all look pretty nice.
L583[13:32:48] <Inari> why would you work remotely, or more to the point why couldnt you just have your text editor load remote files and save to remote if you are already remoting anyway
L584[13:32:48] <Dashkal> I often find myself editing files with structure on remote servers.
L585[13:33:04] <Kodos> I'm trying make code that will check all connected components, and for each... let's say redstone, component it finds, it proxies the address as 'redstone1', 'redstone2', etc
L586[13:33:24] <Dashkal> This all said, I really dislike cursor-on-character.
L587[13:33:31] <Dashkal> And vim is that to its very core. Dunno about emacs.
L588[13:33:33] <Kodos> ELI5 Cursor on character
L589[13:33:48] <Dashkal> The cursor in vim is /on/ a character. Most editors have it between two characters.
L590[13:34:07] <Kodos> That's a pretty petty thing to disavow a pretty solid editor
L591[13:34:19] <Dashkal> This leads to a ton of interactions that take this into account. Insert before or after? Edit before or after? That kind of thing.
L592[13:34:20] <Inari> not if it regularly confused you and throw syou off
L593[13:34:21] <Inari> :P
L594[13:34:24] <DeanIsaKitty> TIL FAR sim does not take fuel levels into account... <.>
L595[13:34:36] <Dashkal> It nearly doubles the interface space. So many operations have to care what you meant.
L596[13:34:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: It becomes insert ON or insert after. not that much difference really...
L597[13:34:50] <Dashkal> So no, not petty. There's a significant cognative burden dealing with that crap.
L598[13:35:09] <Dashkal> I'd rather save the brain cycles for what I'm actually coding.
L599[13:35:16] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: cant find any so far xD
L600[13:36:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: What are your arguments against this interface: http://i.imgur.com/pNEwG8S.png
L601[13:36:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: For me its the other way round. I missstep everytime I uses a graphical editor that uses between-character cursors.
L602[13:36:32] <Inari> i wouldnt call it a GUI for one
L603[13:36:34] <Dashkal> One of these days I'll get powerline working
L604[13:36:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Is that an argument? <.<
L605[13:36:44] <Inari> more some consolized monstrosity of somehting
L606[13:36:49] <Inari> yeah im asking for a gui
L607[13:36:50] <Inari> its not a gui
L608[13:37:00] <Dashkal> ewww, c++
L609[13:37:02] <DeanIsaKitty> What does a gui give you?
L610[13:37:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Shut up already.
L611[13:37:10] <Inari> line that are lines for one
L612[13:37:11] <Dashkal> Never :D
L613[13:37:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: What?
L614[13:37:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: I can make you though :3
L615[13:37:28] <Inari> those vertical lines :P
L616[13:37:35] <Inari> or supposed-to-be-lines
L617[13:37:36] <Dashkal> And you'll have to to get me to shut up :D
L618[13:37:41] <Inari> also a UI is more adjustable
L619[13:37:44] <Inari> *GUI
L620[13:37:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Thats a quick unicode hack
L621[13:37:49] <DeanIsaKitty> How?
L622[13:37:56] <DeanIsaKitty> What is more adjustable?
L623[13:37:57] <Inari> cause i can drag it in subchars
L624[13:38:03] <Dashkal> This said, GUI beats console UI since it can make far more efficient use of pixel space.
L625[13:38:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: No, not really.
L626[13:38:19] <Dashkal> Erm, now you're just denying reality
L627[13:38:25] <Dashkal> It literally has a higher resolution
L628[13:38:32] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: anyway, it just looks ugly compared to any modern GUI
L629[13:38:40] <DeanIsaKitty> When it comes to text editors, I can't see anything that an graphical editor gives you.
L630[13:38:48] <Dashkal> That appears to be by choice
L631[13:38:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: subjective, but ok.
L632[13:38:57] <Dashkal> so. s/can't/won't/
L633[13:39:03] <Inari> well not like it matters in this case
L634[13:39:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Please tell me an example ffs
L635[13:39:32] <vifino> wat, how is DeanIsaKitty's vim ugly
L636[13:39:37] <vifino> it looks pretty good
L637[13:39:43] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Nobody said that shut up
L638[13:39:53] <vifino> ¬_¬
L639[13:39:54] <Dashkal> Character. spacer (background color), line (contrasting color), spacer (background). More characters. Differentiated sections without having to conform to a global character grid, saving pixel space.
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L641[13:40:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Now you completely lost me.
L642[13:40:23] <Dashkal> You get more space to work with without having to shrink your characters.
L643[13:40:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah, I think what you're going for.
L644[13:40:44] <Inari> vifino: you're biased
L645[13:41:09] <DeanIsaKitty> Well yeah character grid is quite a restriction, but given that what I'm using is 100% text anyway it does not make a difference to me ^^
L646[13:41:10] <Dashkal> It also lets me use proportional width fonts where I don't need character alignment, so the same bit of text takes less space without shrinking the individual glyphs.
L647[13:41:24] <vifino> Inari: yes, because I use both vim, emacs and atom, sometimes even nano, I am obviously biased
L648[13:41:29] <Inari> nah
L649[13:41:30] <vifino> s/both //
L650[13:41:31] <Kibibyte> <vifino> Inari: yes, because I use vim, emacs and atom, sometimes even nano, I am obviously biased
L651[13:41:31] <Dashkal> Now I can get more information on my monitor than I otherwise could.
L652[13:41:36] <Inari> cause vifino and vim
L653[13:41:38] <Dashkal> All without shrinking the text.
L654[13:41:39] <Inari> obviously you'Re gonna defend it
L655[13:41:41] <vifino> ...
L656[13:41:42] <DeanIsaKitty> While that is actually possible with a pure character interface, Dashkal go on.
L657[13:41:50] <Dashkal> No, it is not. By definition
L658[13:41:53] <vifino> Shut up, Inari. ¬_¬
L659[13:41:56] <Inari> lol
L660[13:42:06] <Dashkal> You cannot get non-grid-aligned characters on a character grid.
L661[13:42:28] <Dashkal> And non-grid-aligned characters allow higher information density without shrinking the glyphs.
L662[13:42:33] <vifino> /nick wefinuh
L663[13:42:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: No, but you can make terminal emulators that use proportional font and go with lines over a grid.
L664[13:42:41] <Sharidan> sure you can, if you reprogram the character prom
L665[13:42:47] <Dashkal> It allows different bits of text to be in entirely different sizes (allowing size to be used for imprtance)
L666[13:43:25] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Given how blind I am that would be a certain disadvantage to me. What you see there is a 17" screen. Any smaller and I have a hard time reading it ^^
L667[13:43:32] <Dashkal> The end result is a dramatic increase in bandwidth. You can get so much more information out of the same pixel space.
L668[13:43:53] <Sharidan> bit compression
L669[13:44:14] <Dashkal> I mean bandwidth on the machine/human connection. More for your eyes to see in the same number of pixels.
L670[13:44:33] <Sharidan> that bandwidth is limitless
L671[13:45:02] <Dashkal> That's false. Literally. The maximal possible bandwidth can be calculated (w*h*d*fps*time)
L672[13:45:13] <Dashkal> You can calculate exactly how much information can be conveyed
L673[13:45:41] <Dashkal> Of course humans can't consume the hard maximum (it'd be watching noise)
L674[13:46:04] <Inari> d being colour depth?
L675[13:46:06] <Sharidan> it's true that one half of that bandwidth setup is severely limited to our capabilities in terms of creating the machine vs. what our eyes and brains are capable of doing
L676[13:46:07] <Dashkal> Yes
L677[13:46:09] <alekso56> vifino: i opened the same project in all the things: eclipse: 468MB , Atom: 46.3MB , Intellij IDEA: 908.4MB, sublime2: 60.7MB: cpu loads at typing: 3-7%,0.3%,18-40%,0.7-0.9%
L678[13:46:25] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: I have used numerous graphical editors, some of which are really well designed (sublime, IDEA, VS in that order) I have not yet seen any increase in actual information conveyed. Most editor then lose a huge amount of screen space with pretty pictures over single letters on a grid.
L679[13:46:39] <vifino> alekso56: kewl
L680[13:46:41] <Dashkal> My point is using the resolution directly (graphical) allows for more information to be conveyed than a pure console, without going over the human limit.
L681[13:46:57] <vifino> also til atom uses less than half a gig of memory
L682[13:46:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: But what editor does that?
L683[13:46:59] <Dashkal> DeanIsaKitty: Anecdotal
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L685[13:47:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: All of this is.
L686[13:47:17] <Dashkal> Erm... ok, I'm done with you.
L687[13:47:22] <Inari> 1920 pixels * 1080 pixels * 32-bit * 60 fps * 1s => 2073600 pixels² * 60 frames * 4294967296 = ?
L688[13:47:36] <DeanIsaKitty> All of this discussion is subjective as fuck and some backhands maths won't change that.
L689[13:47:37] <Dashkal> Spend some time looking up definitions
L690[13:47:42] <Sharidan> you argue some fine points Dashkal, I'll give you huge credit for that :)
L691[13:48:10] <vifino> alekso56: atom uses 387M here
L692[13:48:24] <Dashkal> One can absolutely say they subjectively prefer a pure console interface. One cannot argue that the bandiwdth of a console interface matches a graphical one.
L693[13:48:52] <DeanIsaKitty> I would not do that. The maths work out as you said. But no EDITOR uses the bandwith.
L694[13:49:06] <alekso56> vifino: running the non modded version?
L695[13:49:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, none I tried. If you have a counterexample please provide.
L696[13:49:26] <vifino> alekso56: but then atom is completely useless ._.
L697[13:49:27] <Sharidan> Dashkal: at the end of the day, UI and information presentation is important more so for skimming purposes, which humans do 80% of the time
L698[13:49:37] <Dashkal> DeanIsaKitty: You have already asserted that you do not believe me, so answering your question is pointless.
L699[13:49:39] <Inari> 387M is perfectyl fine?
L700[13:49:40] <vifino> it doesn't even have tab completion then
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L702[13:50:21] <Dashkal> Sharidan: Indeed. But graphical UIs can do even that with more pixel efficiency than text (sectioning out pieces of the UI to draw attention to the impotant bits takes far less space when you only need to draw the border and maybe some subtle shading of the background)
L703[13:50:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: I really want to believe you, no matter what your opinion is. I just haven't seen an example of an editor that in the same window size actually does convey more information - using the bigger bandwith it no doubt has.
L704[13:50:57] <Dashkal> DeanIsaKitty: I find that IntelliJ IDEA makes more efficient use of my resolution than vim.
L705[13:50:58] <Inari> well there you had an example
L706[13:51:02] <Inari> drawing border around text
L707[13:52:09] <vifino> Dashkal: You aren't ranting about font sizes, are you?
L708[13:52:11] <Skye> icons?
L709[13:52:26] <Dashkal> vifino: All of my arguments assume a common font size for the main bulk of the text on the screen.
L710[13:52:38] <Dashkal> GUIs do have the advantage of varrying the size to indicate importance.
L711[13:52:40] <vifino> Alrighty then.
L712[13:52:53] <Dashkal> Ex: My memory indicator uses smaller glyphs than the code.
L713[13:53:22] <Kodos> I fucking hate math =(
L714[13:53:48] <Dashkal> I have a certain amount of interest here. I run xmonad and no system tray. I have a single bit of "os chrome" in the form of a small xmobar on an aux monitor.
L715[13:53:56] <Dashkal> And I'd like to be rid of it, but I need that information too often.
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L717[13:56:11] <Michiyo> Sharidan: sorry, I get what you mean now.. was afk dealing with a customer
L718[13:56:23] <Sharidan> Michiyo: no worries :)
L719[13:56:29] <Kodos> Okay, if I have two values (Current and max), and I have a set of 12 lights set up as a bar of lights, how do I tell the 12 lights how many I need lit up, based on how much of current out of the max is used/free
L720[13:57:05] <Sharidan> Michiyo: ran a full test of all tiers of screens and GPU's and testing that method works perfectly to detect T1 screens <=> touch/mouse availablity :)
L721[13:57:31] <Michiyo> Nice
L722[13:57:43] <Sharidan> Kodos: basic percentage
L723[13:58:45] <Kodos> Yes
L724[13:58:46] <Sharidan> pct = current / (max / 100)
L725[13:58:57] <Kodos> But let me tell you how bad my math is
L726[13:58:59] <Sharidan> then you know the percent of blocks to light up
L727[13:59:03] <Kodos> I don't know how to do long division
L728[13:59:12] <Sharidan> 12 blocks ?
L729[13:59:18] <Kodos> Sort of. 12 lights
L730[13:59:23] <Kodos> I'm using a lightboard
L731[14:00:01] <Sharidan> sec
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L733[14:02:06] <Sharidan> Kodos: try this:
L734[14:02:29] <Sharidan> lightsOn = math.floor((current/(max/100))*(totalLights/100))
L735[14:02:47] <Kodos> Err
L736[14:02:49] <Kodos> Give me a sec
L737[14:03:10] <Sharidan> totalLights = 12; current = 728; max = 1024
L738[14:03:13] <Sharidan> for example
L739[14:03:18] <Sharidan> that'll respond with lightsOn = 8
L740[14:04:57] <Sharidan> you may want to use math.ceil instead to get at least one lamp on when current > 0
L741[14:05:33] <Kodos> Right
L742[14:05:37] <Kodos> Okay, so let me get my code
L743[14:07:02] <Sharidan> as long as max > 0 and totalLights > 0, the above math will return how many lights need to be on. that's what you needed, right? :)
L744[14:09:57] <Kodos> Well, now
L745[14:10:28] <Kodos> I need a function that will take the current and max values, and either return the amount of lights, or sets the lights within the function
L746[14:10:45] <Kodos> But let me show you the code I'm using that with for now
L747[14:10:56] <Sharidan> sure
L748[14:11:28] <Kodos> https://github.com/MyNameIsKodos/OpenComputers-Programs/blob/master/lib/kodos.lua#L122-L174 This is my lib
L749[14:11:36] <Kodos> The highlighted code is all the light board functions I have thus far
L750[14:11:45] <Kodos> I basically want to do a setMeter function, as described above
L751[14:12:28] <Kodos> Once I get that, I can make sure it's checking for the lightboard having 12 lights (to make sure it's in the right mode), and then do the actual function
L752[14:12:40] <Sharidan> hoki - gimme a min
L753[14:13:21] <Sharidan> setMeter?
L754[14:14:03] <Sharidan> does this always hold the number of lights? --> component.light_board.light_count
L755[14:14:12] <Kodos> Yeah, it's a field
L756[14:14:18] <Kodos> The function will only work if that == 12
L757[14:14:23] <Sharidan> gotcha
L758[14:14:23] <Kodos> s/will/should
L759[14:14:24] <Kibibyte> <Kodos> The function should only work if that == 12
L760[14:14:34] <Kodos> I have a check for a similar thing in another function
L761[14:15:25] <Sharidan> the onOff parameter is a boolean, right?
L762[14:16:47] <Kodos> Yeah
L763[14:16:52] <Kodos> true turns it on, false turns it off
L764[14:17:21] <Kodos> The entire lib is basically "Shit I only have to write once" that simplifies things that either I have too much trouble understanding, or too much trouble remembering how to do shit
L765[14:17:23] <Sharidan> try this: http://pastebin.com/6yUWxCpL
L766[14:18:10] <Kodos> I don't need the color passed. I'm going to init the meter in the program I use to have a red, orange, yellow, green coloration in an order depending upon what i"m using it for
L767[14:18:15] <Kodos> But I can work with that, thanks =D
L768[14:18:21] <Sharidan> np :)
L769[14:22:16] <Kodos> So wait, you can pass 0 or 1 as a boolean?
L770[14:22:44] <Sharidan> note the parenthese around the values: (l <= lightsOn)
L771[14:22:55] <Sharidan> that converts it into a boolean statement, thus returning true or false
L772[14:23:05] <Kodos> Ohhh
L773[14:23:06] <Kodos> Neat
L774[14:23:28] <Sharidan> quick'n'dirty way of doing it - saves if statements and variables
L775[14:24:15] <Sharidan> you can do that with any expression that evaluates as true or false in any scripting/programming language
L776[14:26:20] <Kodos> Okay, plugged it in, time to go test
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L778[14:26:47] <Sharidan> hmm ... might need to add in a small check to prevent maxValue from being 0
L779[14:27:09] <Sharidan> if maxValue == 0 then division by zero crash
L780[14:29:00] <Kodos> I can fix that ingame
L781[14:29:17] <Sharidan> if (maxValue==0) then maxValue = 1 end
L782[14:29:34] <Sharidan> easy enough to fix :)
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L784[14:32:25] <Kodos> Doesn't actually seem to error with a 0 as max
L785[14:32:39] <Sharidan> meh - then just leave it as is
L786[14:32:54] <Sharidan> 0/100 = 0 so it should actually error out with division by zero
L787[14:33:09] <Sharidan> since currentValue / 0 is not mathematically possible
L788[14:33:57] <Kodos> Well, I wouldn't know how to tell it to error anyway lol
L789[14:34:04] <Sharidan> lol
L790[14:34:11] <Sharidan> if it works, run with it :)
L791[14:34:21] <Kodos> Now I just need to write a quick initMeter function so it knows whether to set up the colors in either ascending or descending
L792[14:34:28] <Sharidan> if it starts crashing out, then add a fix to prevent maxValue = 0
L793[14:34:50] <Kodos> Yeah, I'll do a failsafe TODO. I'm thinking if max = 0, just turn the meter blue
L794[14:35:03] <Sharidan> yea could do
L795[14:35:13] <Kodos> I did something similar with my dynamic capbank monitor program
L796[14:35:19] <Kodos> Only I used fancy bitshifting for it
L797[14:35:24] <Kodos> I wouldn' have a clue how to do that here
L798[14:35:34] <Kodos> s/used/had Vex write
L799[14:35:34] <Kibibyte> <Kodos> Only I had Vex write fancy bitshifting for it
L800[14:36:02] <Kodos> Questoin
L801[14:36:17] <Sharidan> uhm, show me your current .setMeter method pls
L802[14:36:25] <Kodos> If I have a function that returns 3 values, can I use it in place of those 3 values in another function
L803[14:36:39] <Kodos> Example:
L804[14:37:03] <Sharidan> yea you should be able to - I'm doing something like that to pass event arguments between objects
L805[14:37:15] <Kodos> myFunctionB returns an x,y, and z coordinate, and I can just do myFunctionA(myfunctionB())
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L807[14:37:39] <Sharidan> myFunctionA(x, y, z)
L808[14:37:46] <Sharidan> if that's the case, then it should work just fine
L809[14:37:52] <Sharidan> otherwise you can do this:
L810[14:37:57] <Sharidan> myFunctionA(...)
L811[14:38:06] <Sharidan> local x, y, z = table.unpack({...})
L812[14:38:08] <Sharidan> that works too
L813[14:38:44] <Sharidan> that's actually how I'm dumping the return from event.pull() into my objects
L814[14:39:12] <Kodos> https://github.com/MyNameIsKodos/OpenComputers-Programs/blob/master/lib/kodos.lua#L156-L163
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L816[14:40:09] <Sharidan> hokay, so if maxValue = 0 you want them all set to some color, right?
L817[14:40:56] <Kodos> That much, I can do. It's a simple matter of iterating over each of the lights and using my setlight function to set it to on and blue
L818[14:41:53] <Sharidan> http://pastebin.com/6yUWxCpL
L819[14:42:01] <Sharidan> integrated it into setMeter
L820[14:42:15] <Sharidan> you just have to replace the string I put inthere with your color setup
L821[14:42:23] <Michiyo> color thingie!
L822[14:42:24] <Kodos> Yeah, it's just hex, so that's easy enough
L823[14:42:45] <Kodos> As far as you using setColor, and setActive separately, I can do that via my setLight function :3
L824[14:42:48] <Kodos> In one line
L825[14:42:48] <Sharidan> if you pass 0 to max, it'll skip all the calculations and force all 12 lights to clr and on
L826[14:43:35] <Sharidan> true - only put them there to make sure you knew what was going on mate :)
L827[14:43:36] <Michiyo> can I go to bed yet?
L828[14:43:45] <Sharidan> nah, too early Michiyo :)
L829[14:43:52] <Michiyo> But.. migraine
L830[14:43:56] <Michiyo> never to early
L831[14:44:08] <Sharidan> oh, then you are allowed to head to bed. go already! :)
L832[14:44:25] <Michiyo> heh.. if only.. were my boss here I'd have went home by now
L833[14:44:49] <Michiyo> but out of town till who knows when, which leaves the store closed, and sears with only one guy
L834[14:44:54] <Sharidan> has it reached the puke state yet?
L835[14:45:12] <Michiyo> Quiet a few times
L836[14:45:16] <Kodos> Question
L837[14:45:20] <Sharidan> damn it's bad :/
L838[14:45:31] <Kodos> If max gets passed as 0, shouldn't it not only set the meter to blue, but also return out of the function
L839[14:45:31] <Sharidan> Michiyo: I suffers from those horrible migranes too
L840[14:45:50] <Sharidan> yup
L841[14:46:04] <Michiyo> This is the first bad one I've had since my doctor put me on Topamax
L842[14:46:19] <Kodos> Topamax is bad
L843[14:46:22] <Michiyo> I used to get them daily
L844[14:46:47] <Michiyo> Kodos: it's topamax, or month long migraines that don't go away unless I'm drugged up outa my head
L845[14:46:57] <Michiyo> So... topamax.
L846[14:46:59] <Kodos> Ehh, fair enough, but make sure you're taking extra care of your teeth
L847[14:47:11] <Kodos> Topamax weakens the enamel and shit on your teeth
L848[14:47:12] <Michiyo> Oh?
L849[14:47:20] <Michiyo> Huh.. good to know
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L851[14:47:26] <Kodos> My wife's getting her entire set of teeth pulled because of Topamax
L852[14:48:05] <Michiyo> But yeah, the hospital here got to know me very well cause of all the shots I had to take..
L853[14:48:13] <Kodos> Okay, so I have the loop setting the lights to blue and on, and then immediately after the loop, I have it returning nil, "no max value found"
L854[14:48:13] <Michiyo> I'm pretty sure most of them thought I was a druggy
L855[14:48:47] <Kodos> Druggies want pills, not shots, tbh
L856[14:48:58] <Michiyo> Narcotics are narcotics
L857[14:49:05] <Michiyo> lol
L858[14:49:34] <Kodos> Indeed
L859[14:49:55] <Michiyo> Though, if anyone ever offeres you dilaudid... you might want to run away
L860[14:49:58] <Michiyo> I know I will
L861[14:50:00] <Michiyo> customer
L862[14:50:15] <Sharidan> Kodos: can you fresh your repository with the latest changes?
L863[14:50:20] <Michiyo> Oh its my mom
L864[14:50:27] <Inari> dilaudid?
L865[14:50:38] <Kodos> Yep, let me just fix my stupid and test it
L866[14:51:41] <Kodos> Okay, I broke something with misplaced loopclosing ends
L867[14:51:47] <Kodos> Let me just upload and you can look at it
L868[14:51:55] <Kodos> Also, this is new https://gyazo.com/cb8b727f51e389b01fde4d4aa53729b4
L869[14:52:11] <Sharidan> oh I see that one frequently
L870[14:52:37] <Kodos> https://github.com/MyNameIsKodos/OpenComputers-Programs/blob/master/lib/kodos.lua
L871[14:52:45] <Kodos> I broke it somewhere
L872[14:52:49] <Kodos> Won't load the lib now
L873[14:53:18] <Sharidan> you're missing an "end" in .setMeter()
L874[14:53:23] <Kodos> Ah
L875[14:53:37] <Sharidan> add another "end" before "return"
L876[14:53:48] <Sharidan> that end will then finish the if-statement
L877[14:54:17] <Kodos> Which return
L878[14:54:32] <Sharidan> last line of .setMeter() is return
L879[14:54:54] <Sharidan> the "end" right above "return" finishes the for-do loop, so you need to add one more "end" right before "return"
L880[14:54:58] <Sharidan> to finish off the if-statement
L881[14:55:16] <Sharidan> "return" is at line 167
L882[14:55:26] <Sharidan> so insert another "end" between line 166 and 167
L883[14:55:31] <Sharidan> and you should be golden
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L886[14:56:10] <Kodos> Looks like I've got some bad tabs, hang on
L887[14:56:15] <Kodos> This is all sorts of bork =(
L888[14:56:20] <Sharidan> yea - indentation is horrible :/
L889[14:56:54] * Sharidan disovers his pot of coffee empty. Runs to kitchen ..
L890[14:57:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: If you're using vim and want to convert tabs to spaces do ":%s/\t/ /g" (that'll be two spaces per tab then)
L891[14:58:34] <Kodos> I only have vim on my netbook
L892[14:58:37] <Kodos> But ty =D
L893[14:58:48] <Kodos> I should really make a cheatsheat of common things I need to remember
L894[14:58:50] <Kodos> Like that
L895[14:59:06] <`-`> Michiyo: Your certs are out of date :P
L896[14:59:31] <Inari> certus quartz
L897[15:02:35] <Kodos> #lua return (3*6), (4*6)
L898[15:02:36] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 18 | 24
L899[15:02:43] <Kodos> #lua return 18/24
L900[15:02:44] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.75
L901[15:02:50] <Kodos> Neat, that does work out
L902[15:03:43] <Kodos> Nice, the function now sets the lights to blue, and errors out with nil, "no max value found"
L903[15:03:49] <Kodos> If 0 gets passed as max
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L905[15:04:02] <Sharidan> sweet :)
L906[15:04:49] <Kodos> Looks like setting 0 to current, and a nonzero int for max still has no lights show up
L907[15:04:54] <Kodos> So I'll need to do a better check for that
L908[15:05:02] <Kodos> Or just check if lightsOn == 0 and set it to one
L909[15:05:35] <Sharidan> well, if you pass current as zero, then the correct show of light would be none
L910[15:06:02] <Kodos> Right
L911[15:06:44] <Sharidan> as soon as current becomes 1, one light will go on, because of math.ceil
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L913[15:07:00] <Sharidan> even if it's 0.00000000001 percent, it'll still become 1
L914[15:07:14] <Kodos> Ah, so it does.
L915[15:07:22] <Sharidan> so you really wouldnt need to do any extra checking on current
L916[15:07:35] <Sharidan> the main reason for doing the max check, is to prevent division by zero crashes
L917[15:07:45] <Fayne_Aldan> Hey Sangar, are you there? I've been having a problem with the in-game OC manual.
L918[15:07:52] <Dashkal> Noms acquired
L919[15:08:00] <Kodos> Fayne_Aldan: what sort of problem?
L920[15:08:16] <Fayne_Aldan> Issue #1615
L921[15:08:24] <Sharidan> Kodos: because if current = 1 and max = 0 then the math becomes: 1 / ( 0 / 100 ) ... 0 / 100 = 0 so 1 / 0 = error
L922[15:08:42] <Kodos> Right
L923[15:08:49] <Sharidan> game crash when certain manual links are clicked if memory serves
L924[15:08:57] <Kodos> Okay, now to write the initMeter function
L925[15:09:24] <Michiyo> %seen Sangar
L926[15:09:25] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Sangar was last seen 4d 21h 51m 40s ago.
L927[15:09:33] <Fayne_Aldan> Well, I think I narrowed it down to the item/block rendering on a lot of pages, Sharidan.
L928[15:09:36] <Michiyo> Yeaahh.. Sangars not there man..
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L930[15:10:18] <Kodos> Has anyone else run into the manual rendering issue?
L931[15:10:40] <Michiyo> Nope..
L932[15:10:56] <Michiyo> of course I don't have anything with an intergrated GPU to test with either
L933[15:10:58] <Michiyo> so.. :/
L934[15:11:06] <Sharidan> I don't have that issue on 1.5.22.42 but that's on 1.7.10. I think Fayne is on 1.8.9
L935[15:11:10] <Kodos> Yea, sounds like old/weak hardware issues more than an error on OC's side
L936[15:11:21] <Michiyo> yeah that's my guess too.
L937[15:12:05] <Fayne_Aldan> the thing, though, is that i still encountered the crash when I built OC with the item/block rendering code in the manual disabled
L938[15:12:23] <Fayne_Aldan> and by disabled i mean commented out
L939[15:12:44] <Michiyo> Also, yes Inari dilaudid, it's a hell of a pain med, knocked me out for 3 days.. I woke up on the 3rd day at work, asked Naomi how we got there, and she told me I drove..
L940[15:13:11] <Kodos> Fayne_Aldan: Do you have a crashlog I can look at
L941[15:13:17] <Skye> Michiyo, O_O
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L943[15:13:20] * Sharidan puts a pot of fresh hot coffee on the room table for everyone
L944[15:13:32] <Fayne_Aldan> No. It's not an actual crash. The game just stops responding. -Kodos
L945[15:13:41] <Michiyo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydromorphone
L946[15:14:18] <Kodos> Oh hey, my dad was on that stuff
L947[15:14:25] <Michiyo> The dosage I was given was usually reserved for late stage cancer patients
L948[15:14:25] <Fayne_Aldan> It's strange though, since I didn't even know Java could hang...
L949[15:14:33] <Kodos> Lol?
L950[15:14:34] <Michiyo> Umm yes, Java can hang, for sure.
L951[15:14:51] <Fayne_Aldan> So then how do you debug a hanging program?
L952[15:15:23] <Kodos> Get better hardware. That's likely your only solution
L953[15:15:24] <Michiyo> Usually you run it via the debug function in your IDE
L954[15:15:25] <Kodos> It's not anything on OC's side
L955[15:15:34] <Michiyo> then you can capture states and crap
L956[15:15:37] <Sharidan> any type of software can hang. infinite loops, extremely large loops or even hardware not responding can cause software to hang
L957[15:15:42] <Fayne_Aldan> Michiyo, the only IDE I have is Notepad++.
L958[15:15:44] * DeanIsaKitty fills a mug of black coffee out of Sharidan's can and drinks it in one go
L959[15:15:51] <Michiyo> Then, first step, is to fix that
L960[15:15:57] <Michiyo> get Eclipse, or IntelliJ
L961[15:16:00] <Kodos> IntelliJ
L962[15:16:12] <Sharidan> \o/ @ Dean
L963[15:16:12] <Michiyo> I prefer eclipse... other people are wrong.
L964[15:16:12] <Michiyo> :P
L965[15:16:13] <Skye> who wants hot chocolate?
L966[15:16:15] <Fayne_Aldan> Which one uses less RAM?
L967[15:16:23] <Kodos> It's an IDE
L968[15:16:24] <Michiyo> j/k of course lol
L969[15:16:29] <Sharidan> rofl Michiyo
L970[15:16:29] <Kodos> You're going to need ram
L971[15:16:45] <Kodos> Fayne_Aldan: Do you know what a dxdiag report it
L972[15:16:47] <Kodos> is*
L973[15:16:56] <Fayne_Aldan> Kodos, I have a single-core 3GB Celeron processor.
L974[15:17:06] <Fayne_Aldan> yes, i know my computer is bad.
L975[15:17:08] <Michiyo> Eclipse with OpenSecurity (an addon for OpenComputers) usually sits at about 440 mb usage
L976[15:17:21] <Michiyo> no idea what OC proper uses, since I've never tried.
L977[15:17:32] <Michiyo> Also never tried scala in eclipse...
L978[15:17:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Fayne_Aldan: Both about the same. But IDEA is more user-friendly for newcomers so get that.
L979[15:17:41] <Michiyo> So, InteliJ might be the best choice.
L980[15:17:43] <Sharidan> uhm, can I ask for some feedback on something?
L981[15:17:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Sure
L982[15:17:58] <Fayne_Aldan> i actually have more experience with eclipse
L983[15:17:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Michiyo: Scala in Eclipse sucks harder than Windows. <.<
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L985[15:18:06] <Sharidan> the buttons at the bottom of this screen: suck or ok? --> http://www.sharidan.dk/upload/todo-button2.png
L986[15:18:17] <Fayne_Aldan> and kodos, i do know about dxdiag, but not necessarily a dxdiag report.
L987[15:18:35] <Kodos> There's a button that says 'Save all information'
L988[15:18:39] <Kodos> Just do that, and pastebin the text file
L989[15:18:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: They're ok. But only if the "sink" if you click them :P
L990[15:19:01] <Kodos> Why would they sink? Those are drop shadows, not bevels
L991[15:19:13] <Sharidan> when clicked, the shadow disappears and the blue part of the button moves one position to the right, then flips back to what you see in the screenie
L992[15:19:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: Because dialog
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L994[15:19:35] <Skye> like MS-DOS EDIT.COM
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L996[15:19:56] <Sharidan> actually they are inspired by Turbo Vision, which came before M$ stole that design from Borland
L997[15:20:14] <Fayne_Aldan> i got disconnected from mibbit when i tried to use the pastebin tool...
L998[15:20:33] <Sharidan> eventually I want to combine all of my nifty UI bits into a Turbo Vision inspired UI library
L999[15:20:38] <Fayne_Aldan> did the link actually send?
L1000[15:20:44] <Kodos> No
L1001[15:20:47] <Sharidan> nope Fayne
L1002[15:21:21] <Fayne_Aldan> http://pastebin.com/CMzXmdgc
L1003[15:21:31] <Kodos> I would lov to see a button API that doesn't take a PhD to utilize
L1004[15:21:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: Make that lib open source and post it on the forums <.<
L1005[15:21:46] <Skye> hmm
L1006[15:21:49] <Sharidan> oh I will eventually Dean :)
L1007[15:21:53] <Skye> should I make miniOS 2?
L1008[15:22:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: I'll hold you up to that promise :P
L1009[15:22:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Skye: Yes. Always
L1010[15:22:08] <gamax92> 8086:2A42
L1011[15:22:10] <Sharidan> please do :)
L1012[15:22:25] <Kodos> 3 Gigs of ram? That seems an odd number
L1013[15:22:30] <gamax92> Intel GMA 4500MHD?
L1014[15:22:43] <Skye> the issue is that OCemu doesn't work properly on my computer
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L1016[15:22:52] <Fayne_Aldan> as i said, i know my computer is bad, kodos.
L1017[15:22:55] <Skye> and I don't want to run minecraft for development
L1018[15:23:36] <Kodos> Fayne, at a glance, I can't say with certainty your computer is built to run modded MC, tbh
L1019[15:24:19] <Sharidan> hey Dean?
L1020[15:24:36] <Skye> who makes OCemu?
L1021[15:24:41] <Fayne_Aldan> how so, kodos?
L1022[15:24:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: Dean doesn't ping me, use my full name if you want a faster response :P
L1023[15:24:53] <Sharidan> gotcha :)
L1024[15:24:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Skye: gamax makes the lua one
L1025[15:25:27] <Fayne_Aldan> wait. ocemu?
L1026[15:25:28] <Sharidan> Dean: if you wanna snatch some of my UI components, you can grab newTerm(), newStatusBar() and newListBox() from the CMB code
L1027[15:25:30] <Kodos> 3 gigs of ram total, that's including operating your windows (Which btw 10 sucks), as well as running minecraft and anything else you have going on
L1028[15:25:32] <gamax92> Skye: you have the full screen issue, right?
L1029[15:25:43] <Skye> yeah
L1030[15:25:49] <Kodos> Not to mention integrated graphics means no hardware support, it's all onboard
L1031[15:26:08] <Fayne_Aldan> i always close all my programs when i play minecraft
L1032[15:26:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: Hm, not right now, but I kinda want to make a dedicated "client" OS built for controlling "server" that are connected to Item storage / Nuclear reactor / the door / w/e
L1033[15:26:38] <Sharidan> DeanIsaKitty: but eventually I'll migrate those objects into my future UI library, including these new buttons
L1034[15:26:46] <Fayne_Aldan> also, when i first upgraded to windows, my graphics driver didn't work and i couldn't run opengl above 1.1. i had to manually reinstall the drivers from the website.
L1035[15:26:49] <Skye> I want to experiment with minimising RAM usage
L1036[15:27:00] <Sharidan> Dean: yea I can see why you'd want a nice UI for some of that :)
L1037[15:27:08] <Fayne_Aldan> so i'm not even 100% sure if i'm running the correct drivers and the latest version.
L1038[15:27:23] <Michiyo> "10 sucks" erm... k
L1039[15:27:24] <gamax92> Fayne_Aldan: I don't know how well these modded drivers are or if they even work for win10, but there are modded drivers for your chip
L1040[15:27:43] <Sharidan> lib might end up becoming fairly big tho, as I intend on adding all sorts of things into it, like progress bars, switches, radiobuttons, checkboxes etc.
L1041[15:27:54] <Fayne_Aldan> gamax92: where are they then?
L1042[15:28:17] <gamax92> http://augmentarium.blogspot.com/2011/08/optimize-gma-4500.html
L1043[15:28:35] <gamax92> guy claims it works for his 4500MHD (which matches your device id)
L1044[15:29:40] <greaser|q> GMA 4500MHD is great, i have one
L1045[15:29:52] <greaser|q> it's not horrendously fast but you can get reasonable perf for it
L1046[15:29:59] <gamax92> greaser|q: ahh good, go help the man then :)
L1047[15:30:24] <Kodos> Okay, I have 12 lights, how should the colors be separated? I'm doing a green>yellow>orange>red setup
L1048[15:30:27] <Fayne_Aldan> i have never even seen anything about this gma 4500mhd before...
L1049[15:30:45] <greaser|q> they're common as fuck but most people don't know the name of it
L1050[15:31:01] <Fayne_Aldan> my computer's intel...
L1051[15:31:22] <greaser|q> if you have a GM45 laptop it's got a GMA 4500MHD
L1052[15:31:31] <gamax92> Fayne_Aldan: yes, that's an intel chip
L1053[15:31:31] <Fayne_Aldan> gm45?
L1054[15:32:09] <gamax92> From your dxdiag: "VEN_8086&DEV_2A42" -> 8086:2A42 -> "Intel GMA 4500MHD"
L1055[15:32:33] <Fayne_Aldan> huh...
L1056[15:32:41] <Michiyo> 8086 is Intel, very iconic
L1057[15:32:46] <Michiyo> Hard to miss lol
L1058[15:33:06] <Skye> hahahaha
L1059[15:33:07] <CompanionCube> it'd be interesting to see an OC OS that was entirely object-oriented
L1060[15:33:29] <Skye> CompanionCube, do you have any idea on how to minimise RAM usage?
L1061[15:33:37] <gamax92> greaser|q does
L1062[15:33:50] <Sharidan> minimize table usage is one way
L1063[15:33:51] <CompanionCube> Skye, iirc there is a utility for crunching / minifying Lua files
L1064[15:33:52] <gamax92> and sugoi
L1065[15:33:56] <Sharidan> tables are very memory expensive
L1066[15:34:02] <Skye> CompanionCube, then all debugging is lost
L1067[15:34:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Now I got to figure out how to properly balance out this plane.. http://i.imgur.com/FXQ1lsb.png ._.
L1068[15:34:08] <Fayne_Aldan> and as i said before, i'm not even sure if i installed the correct graphics drivers. my problem may just be because i'm using the wrong drivers.
L1069[15:34:17] <gamax92> Fayne_Aldan: doubt that
L1070[15:34:24] <CompanionCube> Skye, wouldn't be too hard to have a 'safe'/debug mode
L1071[15:34:38] <Skye> eeeehhhh
L1072[15:34:41] <CompanionCube> since errors in the core OS have lesser probability than errors in userspace
L1073[15:34:48] <Sharidan> Kodos: do you need the setMeter from my pastebin anymore?
L1074[15:34:51] <DeanIsaKitty> CompanionCube / Skye luamin & squish on github. Make a build env with a debug and a relase target
L1075[15:35:12] <Skye> I wish there was a way to a insert line numbers while loading programs in OC
L1076[15:35:26] <greaser|q> if you want to minimise RAM: dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=8192 of=/swap
L1077[15:35:31] <greaser|q> swapon /swap
L1078[15:35:32] <greaser|q> done
L1079[15:35:32] <Skye> ._.
L1080[15:35:39] <Skye> greaser|q, for OC
L1081[15:35:41] <Fayne_Aldan> gamax92: i dl'd my drivers from acer, but this computer hasn't been supported for a long time so there's probably a newer version
L1082[15:35:54] <greaser|q> ah right, basically remove most of OpenOS
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L1084[15:36:06] <mpmxyz> Good evening!
L1085[15:36:09] <Kodos> Anyone got a quick and dirty hexcode for orange
L1086[15:36:12] <Skye> evening
L1087[15:36:13] <Sharidan> o/ mpmxyz
L1088[15:36:53] <gamax92> Kodos: FFA500
L1089[15:37:03] <Kodos> Works, thanks
L1090[15:37:09] <Sharidan> Kodos: do you need the setMeter from my pastebin anymore?
L1091[15:37:24] <greaser|q> but yeah basically openos loads a lot of shit that you probably don't need
L1092[15:37:27] <Kodos> No, I've got it in my lib now, thanky ou
L1093[15:37:40] <Kodos> Hmm, 8 green, 2 orange, 2 red looks weird
L1094[15:37:41] <Sharidan> Kodos: alright, just wanted to check before I delete it :)
L1095[15:38:23] <Kodos> Maybe I'll go google LED Meters
L1096[15:38:25] <Kodos> See what other people use
L1097[15:38:53] <Fayne_Aldan> all right... i'll try that royal bna driver.
L1098[15:38:55] <Michiyo> kodos 4 3 3 2
L1099[15:39:04] <mpmxyz> I haven't checked the forums for a while. Any projects that I should take a look at?
L1100[15:39:19] <Michiyo> if you're still doing green yellow orange red
L1101[15:39:40] <Michiyo> otherwise 5 4 3
L1102[15:39:45] <Kodos> Yeah, doing the first one now
L1103[15:39:46] <Michiyo> that's how I usually do it
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L1105[15:40:08] <Kodos> That looks good =D
L1106[15:40:26] <Sharidan> screenie pls Kodos :)
L1107[15:40:30] <Michiyo> ^
L1108[15:40:48] <Kodos> Give me a sec to find something decent looking for the 4th rack slot
L1109[15:41:19] <Kodos> https://gyazo.com/6d7f415a660bf97dbba0b4710c214aa3
L1110[15:41:36] <Sharidan> uuh yea that does look nice :)
L1111[15:41:46] <Fayne_Aldan> chrome won't download the royal bma driver
L1112[15:41:51] <Kodos> Now all I need is someone to make a rackmounted Raid, and my idea will be complete
L1113[15:41:52] <Fayne_Aldan> *bna
L1114[15:42:18] <Michiyo> Kodos: convert OC's raid scala to java, and I'll make a stand alone mod for it :P
L1115[15:42:36] <Kodos> Michiyo: Seeing as Raids are super useful for storing logs, I'd say it's arguable that they belong in OS
L1116[15:43:28] <Kodos> Is calling uptime is returned in ticks or seconds
L1117[15:43:32] <Kodos> err
L1118[15:43:37] <Kodos> How is uptime retured
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L1120[15:43:39] <Kodos> ...
L1121[15:43:43] <NickP> hello
L1122[15:43:50] <Sharidan> o/ NickP
L1123[15:44:10] <NickP> can you help me out
L1124[15:44:20] <Kodos> We can sure try =)
L1125[15:44:23] <Sharidan> what seems to be the problem? :)
L1126[15:44:24] <Dashkal> No, but only because my mind reading ability sucks :)
L1127[15:44:36] <Sharidan> lol Dashkal
L1128[15:44:39] <Fayne_Aldan> i can't download the bna drivers because the person hosting them on box is out of bandwidth.
L1129[15:45:06] <NickP> i cannot set up a server on opencomputers
L1130[15:45:55] <Michiyo> NickP: what's the issue you're having?
L1131[15:46:08] <NickP> cannot set up server
L1132[15:46:19] * Michiyo sighs
L1133[15:46:22] <Dashkal> We need a lot more detail. What have you tried? What specifically isn't happening that should?
L1134[15:46:24] <gamax92> please be more descriptive than that
L1135[15:46:26] <Michiyo> I got that... what's the *exact* issue?
L1136[15:46:43] <Kodos> Do you mean the server item?
L1137[15:46:45] <NickP> i cant hook one up in the first place
L1138[15:46:58] * Fayne_Aldan facepalms
L1139[15:47:04] <Kodos> You're putting components in the server, and the server into a rack, yes?
L1140[15:47:07] <Sharidan> place a server rack block - right-click it - put server in one of the slots
L1141[15:47:43] <Fayne_Aldan> ok, i actually thought he meant a minecraft server.
L1142[15:47:59] <Sharidan> nah, this is #oc - not real world support :)
L1143[15:48:11] <Michiyo> Sharidan: you'd be surprised.
L1144[15:48:13] <Kodos> We do IRL support on occasion
L1145[15:48:17] <NickP> yes i know i did that and i put a screen up next to it and wired it to another computer and it did not work
L1146[15:48:22] <Sharidan> true! lol
L1147[15:48:28] <Kodos> NickP: What version of OC are you using
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L1149[15:48:47] <Kodos> Also, servers are their own computers, you don't need to 'wire it' to another computer
L1150[15:48:48] <NickP> the one for minecraft 1.8
L1151[15:48:55] <Michiyo> You.. put a screen next to it and hardwired it to another computer..
L1152[15:49:02] <Michiyo> well.. yes that might cause issues
L1153[15:49:05] <NickP> i signed on in my server com NickP@
L1154[15:49:09] <NickP> i signed on in my server com NickP2@
L1155[15:49:32] <NickP2> this is my server com
L1156[15:49:34] <Michiyo> Know what... I'm at work.. I'mma go.. do work
L1157[15:49:42] <Michiyo> or... something
L1158[15:49:45] <Sharidan> lol Michiyo
L1159[15:49:47] <Michiyo> good luck everybody eles!
L1160[15:49:52] <Michiyo> else*
L1161[15:49:57] <Sharidan> have fun Michiyo! :)
L1162[15:50:03] <NickP> bye
L1163[15:50:07] <NickP2> bye
L1164[15:50:32] <NickP> plz help
L1165[15:50:46] <gamax92> Kodos: I swear this is just a troll
L1166[15:51:10] <Kodos> Considering they know how to IRC in OC, I'd be inclined to agree
L1167[15:51:21] <Kodos> But
L1168[15:51:27] <Kodos> It's a bold move, Cotton. let's see how it plays out
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L1170[15:51:53] <Kodos> s/plays out/pays off
L1171[15:51:57] <Kibibyte> <Kodos> It's a bold move, Cotton. let's see how it pays off
L1172[15:51:58] <Kodos> my bad
L1173[15:52:37] <Kodos> s/how/if
L1174[15:52:37] <Kibibyte> <Kodos> It's a bold move, Cotton. let's see if it pays off
L1175[15:52:38] <Kodos> Fuck
L1176[15:52:41] <Kodos> I can't quote today
L1177[15:52:45] <Kodos> %quote Life's
L1178[15:52:46] <MichiBot> Kodos: No quotes found for Life's
L1179[15:52:49] <Kodos> erm
L1180[15:52:50] <Kodos> %quote
L1181[15:52:51] <MichiBot> Kodos: Shuudoushi I will malice you with a shoe horn!
L1182[15:52:58] <gamax92> :P
L1183[15:53:00] <Kodos> When the fuck did I say that
L1184[15:53:11] <gamax92> %quote
L1185[15:53:11] <MichiBot> gamax92: <@Lizzy> well, fuck...
L1186[15:53:30] <Sharidan> %quote
L1187[15:53:31] <MichiBot> Sharidan: <@Lizzy> well, fuck...
L1188[15:53:42] <Sharidan> lol
L1189[15:53:45] <Fayne_Aldan> what...?
L1190[15:53:46] <gamax92> its quote knowledge is not very high
L1191[15:54:51] <xarses> is it possible to tell when two devices are near each over on the network, for example If an adapter has an adjacent driver, and I put an inventory controller upgrade in said adapter, can I find their relationship in a deterministic manner?
L1192[15:55:11] <Kodos> English?
L1193[15:55:12] <NickP> how do i close this window
L1194[15:55:21] <Kodos> NickP: Alt+F4
L1195[15:55:28] <NickP> k tnks
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L1197[15:55:38] <Dashkal> Wow, I think that's the first time that's ever been the real answer...
L1198[15:55:44] <Kodos> Lol
L1199[15:55:47] <gamax92> ... umm
L1200[15:55:48] <Sharidan> lol
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L1202[15:56:05] <gamax92> but that was wocchat.
L1203[15:56:23] <Dashkal> Now, they probably meant the tab, but that was the answer to the question asked...
L1204[15:56:50] <Kodos> NickP2 was Wocchat
L1205[15:56:54] <Kodos> I think
L1206[15:57:17] <Sharidan> NickP was ~nickp@h69-130-70-227.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net * NickP [WocChat]
L1207[15:58:46] <Michiyo> Kodos: you never said that, Shuudoushi did, it's *nick* *quote*
L1208[15:59:05] <Michiyo> but since you invoked %quote it's *you* *nick* *quote*
L1209[15:59:13] <Kodos> Ohhh
L1210[15:59:17] <Kodos> Now I feel retarded
L1211[15:59:23] <Kodos> %quote Kodos
L1212[15:59:24] <MichiBot> Kodos: No quotes found for Kodos
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L1214[15:59:31] <Kodos> Where's my life statement =(
L1215[15:59:48] <Sharidan> so how does one add a quote to it?
L1216[15:59:49] <Michiyo> I HAD it putting *you* <*nick*> *quote* but people kept adding quotes with <nick>
L1217[15:59:51] <Michiyo> so I removed it...
L1218[16:00:20] <Michiyo> Kodos: I had to flush stuff out of the quote DB, so readd it... but in the format of %addquote <Kodos> Yourquote plox
L1219[16:00:30] <Sharidan> %quote Sharidan Life is too short for cold coffee.
L1220[16:00:41] <Michiyo> addquote
L1221[16:00:45] <Sharidan> %addquote Sharidan Life is too short for cold coffee.
L1222[16:00:45] <MichiBot> Sharidan: Quote added.
L1223[16:00:53] <Sharidan> %quote Sharidan
L1224[16:00:53] <MichiBot> Sharidan: Sharidan Life is too short for cold coffee.
L1225[16:00:56] <Kodos> %addquote Kodos Life is too short for matching socks.
L1226[16:00:56] <MichiBot> Kodos: Quote added.
L1227[16:01:02] <Sharidan> %addquote Life is too short for cold coffee.
L1228[16:01:02] <MichiBot> Sharidan: Quote added.
L1229[16:01:08] <Sharidan> %quote Sharidan
L1230[16:01:09] <MichiBot> Sharidan: Sharidan Life is too short for cold coffee.
L1231[16:01:12] * Michiyo sighs
L1232[16:01:12] <Sharidan> do'h!
L1233[16:01:13] <Sharidan> lol
L1234[16:01:17] <Kodos> >.>
L1235[16:01:25] <Kodos> %delquote Kodos
L1236[16:01:29] <Sharidan> killquote plx
L1237[16:01:33] <Michiyo> delquote doesn't woork atm...
L1238[16:01:35] <Kodos> Ah
L1239[16:01:45] <Kodos> Maybe make quotes addable by flagged only?
L1240[16:01:54] <Kodos> And I can be less retarded in the future
L1241[16:01:56] <Michiyo> I have to stop the bot, copy the DB, open it in a sqlite editor, and remove them
L1242[16:02:28] <Michiyo> AFK Sears needs me
L1243[16:02:36] <Sharidan> ick ... that sounds like .... work - eew
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L1245[16:06:21] <Lizzy> welp, either the new board i got or both of my sandy bridge cpus are dead
L1246[16:06:31] <Lizzy> there goes my file server idea
L1247[16:06:42] <Michiyo> Damn..
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L1249[16:07:25] <NickP> hello
L1250[16:07:44] <Lizzy> so the 60GB SSD and 2x3TB drives i ordered for it will now go into my main pc
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L1253[16:12:43] <Michiyo> Wait, Kodos what's wrong with your quote entry?
L1254[16:13:10] <Michiyo> Sharidan's I can see, as he added the same quote... just one of them is attributed to "life" :/
L1255[16:13:12] <Michiyo> :P
L1256[16:13:40] <Michiyo> same quote twice*
L1257[16:13:42] <Sharidan> it was putting my name there twice, so I tried overwriting it without "Sharidan"
L1258[16:13:54] <Michiyo> No... it wasn't putting your name there twice.
L1259[16:14:01] <Sharidan> %quote
L1260[16:14:01] <MichiBot> Sharidan: Kodos Life is too short for matching socks.
L1261[16:14:07] <Sharidan> %quote Sharidan
L1262[16:14:07] <MichiBot> Sharidan: Sharidan Life is too short for cold coffee.
L1263[16:14:08] <Terminal-Access> missing the 's off the name ?
L1264[16:14:15] <Michiyo> *person who used the command* *person who the quote is attributed to* *quote*
L1265[16:14:17] <Sharidan> ooooh ok - got it now :P
L1266[16:14:24] <Sharidan> gotcha :)
L1267[16:14:28] * Sharidan feels moronic
L1268[16:14:39] * Sharidan slaps Sharidan around a bit with a large trout
L1269[16:14:39] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
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L1271[16:14:58] <Michiyo> It WAS You: <User> Quote
L1272[16:15:12] <Michiyo> But people kept doing %addquote <SoandSo> Quote
L1273[16:15:13] <Sharidan> I was being stupid Michi :)
L1274[16:15:28] <Michiyo> and when you used %quote you'd get User: <<SoandSo>> Quote
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L1276[16:15:34] <Michiyo> so I removed the < and >
L1277[16:15:34] <Sharidan> ah
L1278[16:15:46] <Michiyo> then everyone stopped adding the < and > and now it looks wrong again -_-
L1279[16:15:47] <Michiyo> lol
L1280[16:15:56] * Lizzy sighs
L1281[16:16:03] <Lizzy> there goes my plans for next week
L1282[16:16:14] <Michiyo> So now I have to do conditional < and >
L1283[16:16:15] <Terminal-Access> a technomages work is never done as you can never please every one! ;)
L1284[16:16:23] <Michiyo> But on the plus side... antiping seems to work...
L1285[16:16:55] <Michiyo> it spams a ZWS every other character in the person being quoted section lol
L1286[16:18:00] <Michiyo> Sorry Lizzy if I had any intel CPUs I'd offer to send you one...
L1287[16:18:04] * Terminal-Access curls up on the sofa and zones summor eot his audiobook xD
L1288[16:18:08] <Michiyo> though it'd probs cost insane moneies to do so
L1289[16:18:16] <Michiyo> monies too
L1290[16:18:37] <Michiyo> The only CPU I have in the store is a AM3 Athlon II x4 2.6 GHz
L1291[16:18:41] <Lizzy> Michiyo, na, i'm not sure if i've killed this board with the 2 cpus i tried or whether my old board killed them
L1292[16:19:04] <Lizzy> i need alcohol
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L1296[16:19:51] <Izaya> priorities
L1297[16:20:08] <Michiyo> Sorry Lizzy RadioShack doesn't sell alcohol...
L1298[16:20:30] <Lizzy> don't worry, got 2 crates of Bulmers here
L1299[16:20:48] <Terminal-Access> i have some archers xD
L1300[16:21:09] <Michiyo> Bleh.... 70 minutes
L1301[16:21:11] <Izaya> the rum is not always gone
L1302[16:21:13] <Michiyo> Err 69 minutes
L1303[16:22:05] <Michiyo> 68...
L1304[16:22:06] <Michiyo> lol
L1305[16:22:55] <Lizzy> I've always said I'm a prime example of Sod's Law in action (Murphy's Law, to those of you who know it that way)
L1306[16:23:16] <Michiyo> Atleast it's friday, I may not be off tomorrow, but I get paid..
L1307[16:24:09] <Terminal-Access> yea murphs n ass, (every thing that can go wrong will go wrong)
L1308[16:25:28] <Kodos> Just had a guy try to sell me 18 lbs of high quality steak for 150$
L1309[16:25:44] <Kodos> Said he was overstocked and needed it gone quick
L1310[16:26:03] <Michiyo> el oh el
L1311[16:26:09] <Kodos> Inded
L1312[16:27:07] * Lizzy sighs
L1313[16:27:28] <Lizzy> W7 can you please hold on long enough to get to 10?
L1314[16:27:50] <Izaya> that's only 33 minutes away
L1315[16:28:31] <Lizzy> Izaya, i want to do a full backup first, not that it actually matters much since w7 isn't happy
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L1317[16:30:02] <Lizzy> hmm, could i use dd in linux and then compress it so that it is only taking up the space it uses rather than 1tb?
L1318[16:30:37] <Izaya> yup
L1319[16:30:40] <Izaya> or even do it in one command
L1320[16:31:07] <Skye> use ddrescue? :P
L1321[16:31:24] <CompanionCube> Skye, ddrescue on a perfectly functioning disk is pointless
L1322[16:31:30] <Lizzy> ^
L1323[16:32:37] <vifino> Lizzy: jsut leave the of part out of the dd command and add "| gzip output.gz" or similar
L1324[16:32:39] <vifino> you could use xz
L1325[16:32:45] <Lizzy> Izaya, what be the command? also will it work if my disk is fragmented?
L1326[16:32:50] <Lizzy> hmm, oka
L1327[16:33:00] <vifino> actually
L1328[16:33:03] <vifino> hold on
L1329[16:33:18] <Kodos> I still like how I can have two racks worth of components =D
L1330[16:33:42] <vifino> Lizzy: jsut leave the of part out of the dd command and add "| gzip > output.gz" or similar*
L1331[16:33:46] <vifino> there we go, fixed
L1332[16:33:56] <CompanionCube> Lizzy, dd makes a byte-for-byte copy
L1333[16:35:39] <vifino> Lizzy: also, append -9 to gzip to use the best compression level
L1334[16:35:40] <Skye> CompanionCube, ddrescue gives me progress
L1335[16:35:48] <Skye> and I really need progress
L1336[16:35:49] <CompanionCube> Skye, use pv
L1337[16:35:51] <vifino> Skye: status=progress
L1338[16:35:52] <CompanionCube> or similar
L1339[16:36:43] <Skye> ?
L1340[16:36:56] <vifino> Skye: append 'status=progress' to dd
L1341[16:37:00] <vifino> watch magic happen
L1342[16:37:58] <Izaya> Lizzy, I think it's like, dd to stdout and then compress it with gz or xz or similar
L1343[16:38:40] <Lizzy> okay
L1344[16:39:14] <vifino> Izaya: read my answers :P
L1345[16:39:25] <Izaya> ohok
L1346[16:39:29] <Izaya> I looked at the green text
L1347[16:39:30] <vifino> :3
L1348[16:39:39] <Izaya> it's too early in th e morning
L1349[16:41:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Should I bother setting up my joystick for flight testing or just not care?
L1350[16:45:46] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: buy a plane shell and convert it into a massive controller setup
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L1352[16:46:40] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Been there done tha... wait what?
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L1355[16:54:05] * vifino yawns and falls asleep on Lizzy
L1356[16:55:39] <Kodos> Okay, time to go fix the ton of errors on my lightboard edition of a BR Monitor
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L1358[16:59:13] <Kodos> Jesus, just saw the post on the creeperhost thing
L1359[16:59:20] <Lizzy> ?
L1360[16:59:43] <Skye> ?
L1361[17:00:02] <Izaya> ?
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L1363[17:00:39] <g> Kodos: ?
L1364[17:01:02] <Sharidan> uhm, could I ask for some advice?
L1365[17:01:39] <Skye> ?
L1366[17:01:46] <Sharidan> which app should I use to sync code to github? I'm on win7
L1367[17:01:57] <g> git.
L1368[17:02:04] <Kodos> Yep, use cmd and just use git
L1369[17:02:09] <Dashkal> github has a client. There's also tourtisegit. Personaly I use git on msys. Straight up command line
L1370[17:02:10] <Lizzy> i use SourceTree on windows
L1371[17:02:24] <Skye> https://twitter.com/CreeperHost/status/693132074295894016/photo/1
L1372[17:02:24] <Sharidan> their guides mention github desktop, but I'm sure you guys are using something different
L1373[17:02:40] <Skye> I use GitHub desktop
L1374[17:02:42] <Skye> MSYS Git
L1375[17:02:45] <Skye> TortoiseGit
L1376[17:02:48] <Skye> SourceTree
L1377[17:02:51] <Skye> GitKraken
L1378[17:02:53] <Skye> all of them
L1379[17:03:09] <Sharidan> ok. thanks for the input everyone :)
L1380[17:03:21] * Izaya uses git on linux but that isn't what was asked
L1381[17:03:37] <g> I use msysgit
L1382[17:03:45] <Sharidan> I'm debating whether to continue using my own distribution system or do the github thing
L1383[17:03:49] <g> under its distribution name: git for windows
L1384[17:04:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: github's software is nice if you want guis, but msysgit is the same feeling as on every platform. Depends on what you prefer
L1385[17:05:07] <Sharidan> I prefer something that doesnt require 30 minutes of typing and doesnt require 4 weeks of training to learn :)
L1386[17:05:18] <g> what language and IDE are you using?
L1387[17:05:24] <Skye> oh yeah
L1388[17:05:29] <Skye> I also use IntelliJ's Git
L1389[17:05:33] <Sharidan> atm it's just for my lua scripts for OC
L1390[17:05:38] <g> yeah, I use intellij's git, but you need msysgit for that
L1391[17:05:42] <g> afaik
L1392[17:05:50] <Dashkal> Sharidan: With those requirements, zips once in awhile. VCS systems require learning if they're going to work for you instead of against you.
L1393[17:05:59] <g> git is worth learning, though
L1394[17:06:09] <g> given how common and awesome it is
L1395[17:06:16] <Dashkal> I always suggest this site for learning git: gitready.org
L1396[17:06:28] <Dashkal> Just start on the beginner track and work until you know enough for what you want.
L1397[17:06:44] <Sharidan> yea I know it's widely used
L1398[17:07:07] <Kodos> I used CodeCademy's git course
L1399[17:07:22] <DeanIsaKitty> git-scm.org \o/
L1400[17:07:41] <g> honestly, don't half-ass VCS
L1401[17:07:44] <g> given how important it is
L1402[17:07:49] <Dashkal> ^
L1403[17:07:53] <g> and how much you're likely to use it
L1404[17:08:04] <g> it's not hard to learn
L1405[17:08:12] <Kodos> Whta's a VCS?
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L1407[17:08:21] <g> version control system
L1408[17:08:33] *** amadornes is now known as amadornes[OFF]
L1409[17:08:42] <Dashkal> (And yes, I committed the ATM machine redundancy, I do that)
L1410[17:09:25] <Sharidan> hmm ... I think for now I'll just stick with my appDist through my site
L1411[17:10:33] <Dashkal> Totally fair
L1412[17:11:47] <scj643> Finished my funimation api
L1413[17:11:48] <scj643> https://github.com/ABusers/A-Certain-Magical-API
L1414[17:11:49] <Sharidan> well, my appDist has selective including through the installer, which lets me update misc. components independantly of the main package
L1415[17:12:54] <g> scj643: no requests?
L1416[17:12:57] <g> you hate yourself? :P
L1417[17:13:10] <scj643> ?
L1418[17:13:18] <g> python-requests
L1419[17:13:24] <scj643> It's not a site yet
L1420[17:13:24] <g> urllib/2 both have so many problems
L1421[17:13:33] <g> I'm looking at funimation.py
L1422[17:13:35] <scj643> oh
L1423[17:13:46] <scj643> THis was riped from a kodi plugin
L1424[17:13:54] <scj643> it used urllib
L1425[17:14:04] <g> shouldn't you be giving attribution? or is it not a C+P
L1426[17:14:19] <scj643> It's goal is to just get json data and spit out video urls
L1427[17:15:53] <scj643> Oh yeah pycharm will bitch about the pythonista files
L1428[17:16:13] <g> oh hey, someone else uses pycharm
L1429[17:16:13] <g> \o/
L1430[17:16:24] <MajGenRelativity> hi
L1431[17:16:29] <scj643> I love it
L1432[17:16:32] <Izaya> oh
L1433[17:16:52] <g> I love it too
L1434[17:17:09] <MajGenRelativity> hi Izaya
L1435[17:17:09] <scj643> It's a little slow for me but my computer is only a 2.2ghz dual core pentium
L1436[17:17:18] <scj643> For quick jobs I use sublime
L1437[17:17:21] <g> oh jeez, yeah, I couldn't stick that
L1438[17:17:44] <g> that's what I'm on: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/January/Taskmgr_2016-01-29_23-17-39.png
L1439[17:17:49] <Izaya> scj643, a pentium with 2GB RAM, right?
L1440[17:17:54] <scj643> 4gb
L1441[17:18:03] <scj643> 2gb is my desktop seedbox with ddr2
L1442[17:18:11] <scj643> and a 2.8ghz single core AMD Athlon
L1443[17:18:20] <Izaya> that should be fine for anything not a web browser or game
L1444[17:18:33] <g> on linux? barely
L1445[17:18:44] <g> on windows? you're pushing it a little for dev tools
L1446[17:19:07] <Izaya> most of my 'desktop' machines are a Core 2 Duo or similar with 2-4GB RAM and integrated graphics
L1447[17:19:11] <Izaya> oooooo that reminds me
L1448[17:19:18] <Izaya> I'm getting like 5 identical C2D boxen
L1449[17:19:24] <Izaya> I should totally cluster them
L1450[17:21:00] <g> I couldn't do serious dev on anything less than an i5
L1451[17:21:09] <g> well Im ean, I could
L1452[17:21:10] <g> but
L1453[17:21:13] <g> it'd be too slow to be viable
L1454[17:21:39] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/tcY9Q3M3 my desktop
L1455[17:21:56] <g> that is fantastically hard to read
L1456[17:22:19] <Izaya> I didn't do the syntax highlighting, it's automatic and I forget how to turn it off
L1457[17:22:25] <Lizzy> Izaya, what's the flag to get that?
L1458[17:22:34] <Lizzy> the inxi output
L1459[17:22:39] <Izaya> -v7
L1460[17:22:43] <Lizzy> thanks
L1461[17:22:44] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/January/Speccy64_2016-01-29_23-22-41.png
L1462[17:22:45] <Inari> thats a weird desktop
L1463[17:22:46] <Izaya> and to disable colour it's -c0
L1464[17:22:49] <Inari> people usually have pictures on theirs
L1465[17:22:53] <Lizzy> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
L1466[17:22:53] <Lizzy> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
L1467[17:22:56] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L1468[17:23:01] <Inari> gj
L1469[17:23:14] <scj643> my 2.8 ghz is running server 2012 r2
L1470[17:23:27] * Inari sews Temia's tail to Lizzy's arm
L1471[17:23:32] <scj643> http://wpc.8c48.edgecastcdn.net/038C48/SV/480/ACMJPNM001/ACMJPNM001-480-3500K.mp4.m3u8?9b303b6c62204a9dcb5ce5f5c607 example fuimation url
L1472[17:23:39] <Lizzy> Inari, why?
L1473[17:23:48] <Inari> so you can be together forever
L1474[17:23:48] <scj643> Works best in a video player or safari
L1475[17:23:49] <Temia> o.o
L1476[17:23:49] <Inari> :3
L1477[17:23:54] * Temia axes Inari.
L1478[17:23:55] <Inari> and i need to practice sewing
L1479[17:23:57] <Inari> :<
L1480[17:24:00] * Temia unsews herself.
L1481[17:24:18] <Izaya> scj643, you're running recent Windows on a weak box?
L1482[17:24:26] <scj643> Yep
L1483[17:24:32] <scj643> I have no issues either
L1484[17:24:36] <scj643> I just let it site
L1485[17:24:37] <scj643> *sit
L1486[17:24:44] <scj643> It's headless too
L1487[17:24:56] <Izaya> well I guess if you don't have to interact with it it wouldn't be incredibly terribad
L1488[17:25:26] <DFrostedWang> random question, do you need mantle to use ticon?
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L1490[17:25:53] <MajGenRelativity> DFrostedWang, yes
L1491[17:25:53] <Lizzy> DFrostedWang, i think so
L1492[17:25:54] <DFrostedWang> it's been a long time since I've put together my own pack
L1493[17:26:00] <DFrostedWang> okay I'll grab it then, thanks
L1494[17:26:00] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/onjiCkV4 my server
L1495[17:26:01] <Temia> I'm... pretty sure Mantle is a dependency of TiCon so yes?
L1496[17:26:13] <scj643> Most of the new pushes to my github were from my iPad
L1497[17:26:33] <Lizzy> https://pastebin.com/0mXGp5G2 my system's specs
L1498[17:26:59] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/P01dO2I.jpg
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L1500[17:27:39] <DFrostedWang> Also does forge look in subdirectories for mods?
L1501[17:27:44] <Lizzy> no
L1502[17:27:50] <DFrostedWang> hrm, I thought it did
L1503[17:27:56] <Lizzy> the main .jars need to be in the root of mods/
L1504[17:28:01] <DFrostedWang> thanks
L1505[17:30:33] <Lizzy> is there any dd related tools that give progress? or will that not work when i'm piping it to stdout then into pigz then to a file
L1506[17:31:08] <Temia> You can throw together a small loop in a shell script to fire SIGUSR1 at a dd to get info.
L1507[17:31:53] <Michiyo> hoooooome tiem
L1508[17:33:13] <Michiyo> And, yes iirc it will, it'll look in the mc version.... eg 1.7.10 or 1.8.*
L1509[17:33:39] <Michiyo> so /mods/1.7.10/yourmod.jar should load
L1510[17:36:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: No, I read the bible. That made me an atheist :P
L1511[17:36:22] <Inari> tooky ou long enough?
L1512[17:36:37] <DeanIsaKitty> What?
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L1515[17:37:58] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: well most people i think become that wihtout reading the whole bible :P
L1516[17:39:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: I am not baptized and grew up in a family that does not value religion very much. But reading the bible made me go from agnostic to atheistic.
L1517[17:39:35] <Izaya> religion is just another form of control
L1518[17:39:44] * g scratches head
L1519[17:39:45] <scj643> Spice and Wolf teaches us that :D
L1520[17:39:49] <g> what'd I walk in on?
L1521[17:39:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Also I was 7 when I read the bible. Sorry that I did not read it earlier. <.<
L1522[17:40:04] <Lizzy> g, late night #oc
L1523[17:40:07] <Izaya> something it would probably be wise to walk out of before it escalates
L1524[17:40:10] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: :P
L1525[17:40:15] <Izaya> it's 11AM though
L1526[17:40:22] <g> it's 11:40pm
L1527[17:40:25] <g> :u
L1528[17:40:33] <g> I haven't read the bible
L1529[17:40:35] <DeanIsaKitty> g: no, its 00:40
L1530[17:40:40] <g> but I know a lot of the silliness
L1531[17:40:44] <scj643> 6:40 pm
L1532[17:41:14] <Inari> the bible is pointless anyway
L1533[17:41:22] <g> http://bibviz.com/ is a good resource
L1534[17:41:31] <Inari> since it was literally hand picked mmmaaaaaannnnyyy years later which stories go in and which not
L1535[17:42:50] <Lizzy> I'm an Athiest because I don't want my actions or beliefs associated with anyone but myself
L1536[17:43:25] <g> I'm agnostic-atheist, but really mostly because there isn't any religion that /isn't/ batshit in some way
L1537[17:43:30] <Inari> Lizzy: intersting :P
L1538[17:43:36] <Inari> i wonder how that'll work out for your relationship(s)
L1539[17:43:45] <scj643> I would be wicken but my mom would kill me
L1540[17:43:48] <Lizzy> Inari, ?
L1541[17:44:02] <Inari> Lizzy: they tend to get associatd
L1542[17:44:07] <Inari> g: i like shinto
L1543[17:44:12] <g> also, relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr1I3mBojc0
L1544[17:44:12] <MichiBot> g: Tim Minchin - The Good Book (Live) | length: 4m 55s | Likes: 6891 Dislikes: 136 Views: 873565 | by QueenSlartibartfast
L1545[17:44:19] <Lizzy> Inari, meh, that's their fault
L1546[17:44:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: vifino's already worshipping Lizzy, so eh :P
L1547[17:44:28] <scj643> Lol
L1548[17:44:40] <scj643> Anyone here use F.Lux
L1549[17:44:47] <Inari> nah
L1550[17:44:58] <Lizzy> I may throw a few "Hail Satan"s in there cause Satan is a cool chick :P
L1551[17:45:02] <g> I know people that ust it
L1552[17:45:03] <g> use*
L1553[17:45:06] <scj643> https://justgetflux.com/
L1554[17:45:18] <Inari> i still like to believe both satan and god are lolis and twin sisters
L1555[17:45:21] <scj643> I like it I really can fall asleep easier when it's on
L1556[17:45:31] <g> Inari: almost madoka-ish
L1557[17:45:32] <g> :P
L1558[17:45:38] <Inari> i can fall asleep no problem and it being on drives me insane
L1559[17:45:39] <scj643> Madoka Magica
L1560[17:45:39] <Inari> so yeah
L1561[17:45:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: I like death more, but Hail death sounds weird ^^
L1562[17:45:47] <scj643> Inari: I don't mind it
L1563[17:45:54] <Lizzy> :P
L1564[17:46:01] <scj643> I also have it set to not filter that much
L1565[17:46:22] <Inari> i#ll randomly look away from the screen for 10s and look back to screen and notice "crap its going all red-dish and crappy again" *turns off flux*
L1566[17:46:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Obligatory "Death is not cruel, merely terrible good at his job"
L1567[17:46:49] <scj643> Inari: I have it set to do that slowly
L1568[17:46:50] <Inari> well death is cruel by having its job
L1569[17:47:03] <Inari> if someone hires you to torture people you may be good at your job
L1570[17:47:05] <Inari> but you're still cruel
L1571[17:47:05] <Inari> :p
L1572[17:47:12] <Lizzy> https://i.imgur.com/Eo71DI1.png
L1573[17:47:12] <scj643> Inari: it takes an hour to transistion for me
L1574[17:47:14] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: death doesn't torture, he relieves.
L1575[17:47:21] <Inari> scj643: yeah but i mean when youj look away shortly and back you notice it even if youd idnt before :P
L1576[17:47:26] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: if you see it that way
L1577[17:47:39] <scj643> I know it's on but I also tend to use my computer mostly at night
L1578[17:47:55] <g> "Swing your daughter by the hand, but if she gets raped by a man and refuses then to marry him, STONE HER TO DEATH"
L1579[17:47:56] <g> ":D"
L1580[17:48:24] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Old testament?
L1581[17:48:30] <g> it's in the video.
L1582[17:48:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh, ok
L1583[17:48:44] <Lizzy> obligatory must post: https://i.imgur.com/XlfOhUO.png
L1584[17:48:45] <g> did none of you click it?
L1585[17:48:48] <g> maybe you haven't heard of tim
L1586[17:48:48] <g> :P
L1587[17:49:03] <DeanIsaKitty> g: I'm watching Crash's stream, your shit is not even close as important ;P
L1588[17:49:04] <scj643> Lol Lizzy
L1589[17:49:14] <g> multitask
L1590[17:49:15] <g> :P
L1591[17:49:30] <DeanIsaKitty> g: My internet is fast, but not *that* fast.
L1592[17:49:40] <g> someone doesn't have fiber, eh
L1593[17:49:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Yep
L1594[17:49:56] * g strokes his 100mbit line
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L1596[17:50:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Lol, I can get that without fiber :P
L1597[17:50:51] <g> not for $30/mo you can't
L1598[17:50:53] <g> lol
L1599[17:50:59] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Wanna bet?
L1600[17:51:09] <g> surprsie me
L1601[17:51:12] <g> surprise*
L1602[17:51:29] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Compared to the US german intenet is cheap as fuck.
L1603[17:51:45] <g> compared to ireland as well, I'm sure
L1604[17:51:49] <g> we're paying €30/mo
L1605[17:51:50] <g> however
L1606[17:51:53] <g> that's not for a fixed 100mbit
L1607[17:51:53] <scj643> if you don't like f.lux try redshift the foss alternative
L1608[17:52:00] <g> that's for "whatever the fastest available in the region is"
L1609[17:52:11] <g> so if it goes up, we don't pay any more
L1610[17:52:12] <g> :P
L1611[17:52:15] <g> which it will
L1612[17:52:17] <scj643> https://github.com/jonls/redshift
L1613[17:52:49] <g> scj643: if you want to "lighten up", watch monster musume instead of turning your face orange
L1614[17:52:50] <g> :P
L1615[17:54:30] * Lizzy wants to play ksp
L1616[17:54:47] * Lizzy is currently maxing all cores+threads out with dd&pigz
L1617[17:54:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Then start KSP?
L1618[17:54:51] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah
L1619[17:56:50] <Izaya> http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/breakfastofchampions/
L1620[18:03:27] * Vista02 waves
L1621[18:04:01] * MajGenRelativity waves at Vista02
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L1623[18:08:03] <scj643> WTF I can watch twitch but mubmle isn't working for shit
L1624[18:08:10] <Lizzy> lol
L1625[18:08:14] * Lizzy sighs
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L1627[18:09:54] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
L1628[18:09:57] <Kodos> https://gyazo.com/e6dcc258bd6e47bacbd81e9468284759 =D
L1629[18:11:01] <Lizzy> yay, the nice feeling of uncertainty is back
L1630[18:11:08] <scj643> ?
L1631[18:11:23] <Izaya> http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/hail/
L1632[18:11:35] <g> Kodos: gyazo is still self-advertising I see..
L1633[18:12:01] <g> at least it's not a goddamn tooltip over the image now I guess
L1634[18:12:21] <scj643> I use my vps for file hosting
L1635[18:12:29] <g> I use shareX with dropbox mostly
L1636[18:12:35] <g> sharex is friggin' awesome
L1637[18:12:43] <g> shame you linux kids have no equivalent
L1638[18:12:48] <Lizzy> :<
L1639[18:12:48] <Kodos> The light board is tracking reactor status, energy buffer amount, fuel levels and waste levels =D
L1640[18:12:52] <scj643> I use shareX too
L1641[18:12:56] <g> https://getsharex.com/
L1642[18:12:58] <g> shutter is closeish
L1643[18:13:04] <scj643> That's how I upload to my VPS
L1644[18:13:06] <Lizzy> g, i use sharex
L1645[18:13:07] <g> it's as close as you can get on linux anyway
L1646[18:14:36] <Izaya> g: nfs mounted public_html with scrot?
L1647[18:14:53] <g> that's probably the most caveman-like way to do it, but it sure does work
L1648[18:15:23] <Izaya> You could always use Xfce4 screenshooter too or similar
L1649[18:15:33] <g> on linux, nothing matches shutter
L1650[18:15:39] <g> and nothing even comes close to sharex
L1651[18:16:24] <g> http://shutter-project.org/
L1652[18:16:49] <g> shutter is still kinda cumbersome but it works
L1653[18:18:57] <Izaya> So what's the advantage of either? You can set up commands that do this stuff
L1654[18:19:04] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfGggAGITwg
L1655[18:19:06] <MichiBot> Lizzy: 2CELLOS - Highway To Hell feat. Steve Vai [OFFICIAL VIDEO] | length: 4m 22s | Likes: 123001 Dislikes: 1371 Views: 14624048 | by 2CELLOS
L1656[18:19:23] <g> Izaya, the advantage is that it's already set up, it's easy, and there's no cumbersome config files
L1657[18:19:33] <g> plus, it's community-supported
L1658[18:19:47] <Izaya> So basically no setup
L1659[18:19:49] <g> unlike your homebrew scripts, someone else will fix it
L1660[18:19:55] <Izaya> Fair enough
L1661[18:20:13] <g> also yeah, there's no research to write said scripts
L1662[18:20:16] <Izaya> Hey, if it works it works
L1663[18:20:19] <g> I understand the flexibility of doing so
L1664[18:20:28] <g> but well, I'd rather set it and forget i
L1665[18:20:29] <g> it*
L1666[18:20:37] <g> sharex hotkeys are just part of my workflow these days
L1667[18:21:08] <scj643> I don't use sharex hotkeys at all
L1668[18:21:21] <g> I modelled mine after puuush, which is what I used before it got hacked
L1669[18:21:32] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/January/ShareX_2016-01-30_00-21-29.png
L1670[18:21:50] <Shuudoushi> why the hell can I not generate lift at anything below Mach 0.35...
L1671[18:22:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Becuase .35 mach is barely any speed
L1672[18:22:18] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/6CPf3zO.png xfce4-screenshooter is pretty nice
L1673[18:22:29] <g> that's it?
L1674[18:22:39] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: I know, it's like 120-ish m/s
L1675[18:22:42] <Izaya> It takes a screenshot and can upload or save it
L1676[18:22:53] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/January/firefox_2016-01-30_00-22-49.png
L1677[18:23:06] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/January/firefox_2016-01-30_00-23-04.png
L1678[18:23:12] <Lizzy> I think my sharex on my laptop uploads when i press printscreen
L1679[18:23:29] <g> mine takes the screenshot, uploads it, and copies the url to my clipboard
L1680[18:23:39] <scj643> Mine doesn't have keybinds
L1681[18:23:46] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: I'm going for a redesign using B9 parts http://puu.sh/mOJGz/9a51d2e7a7.png
L1682[18:24:15] <Shuudoushi> I forgot all about B9 adding the engines I'm using now lol
L1683[18:24:35] <scj643> http://scj643.theender.net/s/24.%20Nanatsu%20no%20Taizai%20-%20The%20Seven%20Deadly%20Sins%20%5B1080%20Hi10p%20AAC%5D%5Bkuchikirukia%5D.mkv_000129.580.png
L1684[18:24:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Looks nice :)
L1685[18:24:45] <Lizzy> scj643, that url through....
L1686[18:24:54] <scj643> That's the regular file name
L1687[18:24:59] <g> Izaya: I think my equivalent is this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/January/ShareX_2016-01-30_00-24-46.png
L1688[18:25:08] <scj643> That's not a screenshot thing
L1689[18:25:10] <scj643> *though
L1690[18:25:22] <Shuudoushi> shut up windows, you're doing fine on RAM, there is no need to close KSP -_-
L1691[18:25:29] <Lizzy> Shuudoushi, lol
L1692[18:25:38] <Shuudoushi> lol, DeanIsaKitty, I think this will work :D http://puu.sh/mOJQU/23780e7634.png
L1693[18:25:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: I'm working on a redesign of the Wanderer. Now its more or less stable for return flights but it wont get it's fat ass off the runway when fueled up.
L1694[18:25:38] <scj643> Lol
L1695[18:25:40] <scj643> http://scj643.theender.net/s/ED%201%20%28for%20ordered%20chapters%29.mkv_000108.082.png
L1696[18:25:47] * Izaya has xfce4-screenshooter bound to both Print Screen and Shift-Print Screen
L1697[18:25:54] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: XD
L1698[18:26:04] <Izaya> One to take a window screenshot, one for a fullscreen screenshot and throw it in my public_html
L1699[18:26:12] <g> also, sharex can do screen recording
L1700[18:26:16] <Lizzy> %lookup sch634.theender.net
L1701[18:26:17] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for sch634.theender.net 107.191.47.156
L1702[18:26:18] <Lizzy> !¬_¬
L1703[18:26:20] <scj643> Mine just goes to my /s directory
L1704[18:26:23] <Lizzy> %lookup scj634.theender.net
L1705[18:26:23] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for scj634.theender.net 107.191.47.156
L1706[18:26:29] <Lizzy> er
L1707[18:26:30] <Shuudoushi> now to add weapon rails from BDArmory :3
L1708[18:26:34] <scj643> .... lizzy
L1709[18:26:38] <Lizzy> %lookup scj643.theender.net
L1710[18:26:38] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for scj643.theender.net 104.236.56.14
L1711[18:26:41] <Lizzy> shutup
L1712[18:26:44] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/January/ShareX_2016-01-30_00-24-46.png
L1713[18:26:54] <Lizzy> okay, so it's the shorter one that i run, k
L1714[18:27:01] <g> whoops
L1715[18:27:02] <g> not that one
L1716[18:27:03] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/January/ShareX_2016-01-30_00-26-40.png
L1717[18:27:14] <g> forgot to disable the after capture window
L1718[18:27:15] <g> lol
L1719[18:27:18] <Izaya> oh hey it uses ffmpeg
L1720[18:27:24] <g> that's one of the options, yeah
L1721[18:27:32] <g> it'll download and set it up for you if you don't have it
L1722[18:28:09] <Izaya> why the 2002 in your username?
L1723[18:28:21] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: i think I might be able to get this thing up to mach 4 :D http://puu.sh/mOK1U/631cf56f47.png
L1724[18:28:23] <g> was a password reminder when I was like 12
L1725[18:28:27] <Skye> gah
L1726[18:28:28] ⇨ Joins: ElTesto (webchat@24-212-242-132.cable.teksavvy.com)
L1727[18:28:33] <Izaya> fair enough
L1728[18:28:46] <scj643> my name was a suggestion when I signed up for my first gmail
L1729[18:28:46] <Skye> I don't know what RAM to upgrade my computer with
L1730[18:28:56] <Izaya> oh man KSP looks more complicated than I remember
L1731[18:29:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Maybe when you take a steep dive.
L1732[18:29:12] <g> yeah, the other two it gives are ".NET (Bad quality)" and "Octree quantizer (Medium quality)"
L1733[18:29:15] <g> as alternatives to ffmpeg
L1734[18:29:45] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: lol, it is missing the raw power for Mach 4 with FAR installed
L1735[18:30:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Nah, it just misses the raw power. FAR actually makes high speeds easier.
L1736[18:30:24] <Shuudoushi> this looks shockingly good... http://puu.sh/mOK9m/5ada11cdb7.png
L1737[18:30:56] <g> right, I'd better go
L1738[18:30:57] <g> o/
L1739[18:31:00] <DeanIsaKitty> \o
L1740[18:31:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Well, you see very precisely where your plane will snap :P
L1741[18:31:22] <Izaya> \o
L1742[18:31:30] <Shuudoushi> lol, pretty much
L1743[18:31:34] *** g is now known as gAway2002
L1744[18:31:38] <Shuudoushi> time for struts }:D
L1745[18:32:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Its not that KSP is more complex, its just if you want to do FAR properly it gets complicated and very mathy :P
L1746[18:32:39] <Izaya> probably why I only tried FAR once or twice
L1747[18:33:02] <ElTesto> Hi everyone, Are OpenComputer release available somewhere than CurseForge? I've got the issue 1600 currently, and I know it's been closed for only 15 days, but I was wondering if something has been released since then. Thank you.
L1748[18:33:25] <Izaya> is ci.cil.li still a thing?
L1749[18:33:31] <DeanIsaKitty> ElTesto: See "dev build" in the topic.
L1750[18:33:35] <Lizzy> Izaya, yep
L1751[18:33:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: See topic.
L1752[18:33:38] <scj643> I just cleared out my share folder
L1753[18:33:42] <Izaya> it was broken for a few days
L1754[18:34:01] <Izaya> or perhaps just while I was throwing together a modpack
L1755[18:34:24] <ElTesto> DeanIsaKitty: Perfect, thank you.
L1756[18:34:44] <Izaya> http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1453240158343.webm
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L1758[18:35:32] <Kodos> Whoo, it works.
L1759[18:35:49] ⇨ Joins: VikeStep (~VikeStep@101.184.165.77)
L1760[18:36:17] <Izaya> Vexatronics Graphics Terminals when
L1761[18:36:41] <Shuudoushi> I have 3 more GIGS of RAM to use, fuck off please -_- http://puu.sh/mOKxD/5dc975df47.png
L1762[18:36:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Aren't you on winderps?
L1763[18:37:04] <Shuudoushi> yes x.x
L1764[18:37:06] <MajGenRelativity> correction, Windows
L1765[18:37:12] <Kodos> I still want a Sine Wave Oscillator
L1766[18:37:12] <MajGenRelativity> I use Windows too Shuudoushi
L1767[18:37:14] <Shuudoushi> Windohs
L1768[18:37:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, of course shit doesn't work Shuudoushi :P
L1769[18:37:21] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1770[18:37:22] <Izaya> no, Dean was right the first time
L1771[18:37:48] * Vista02 is Windows Vista
L1772[18:37:50] <Dashkal> You seem to be making a mistaken implication, DeanIsaKitty. It's not winderps that's the problem. It's the whole "computer" bit. We kinda suck at those.
L1773[18:37:55] <Shuudoushi> MajGenRelativity: I don't like windows, but i can't get my shit running on Linux right, so I'm stuck with it ><
L1774[18:38:02] * Vista02 is Windows Vista
L1775[18:38:03] * Dashkal mutters about the whole damn software development industry
L1776[18:38:03] * Shuudoushi ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro ** CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 12253 MB Total (3236 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST ** Uptime: 106.08 Hours **
L1777[18:38:13] <Izaya> I have a theory about how our computers manage to suck
L1778[18:38:14] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Yes, but Windows makes it especially bad.
L1779[18:38:21] <MajGenRelativity> Shuudoushi, just integrate Vista02 into your computer
L1780[18:38:27] <Izaya> so basically
L1781[18:38:27] <ElTesto> Izaya: It's called "good enough".
L1782[18:38:27] <Dashkal> Meh, I run Arch. I'm no stranger to things acting bizarrely
L1783[18:38:29] <MajGenRelativity> everybody knows Vista was a good Windows
L1784[18:38:32] <Shuudoushi> the fuck is that...
L1785[18:38:35] <Dashkal> ElTesto++
L1786[18:38:40] * Vista02 is Vista02
L1787[18:38:40] <Izaya> bill gates is an alien
L1788[18:38:43] <Dashkal> That's it exactly. Meh, it works. Next.
L1789[18:38:47] <MajGenRelativity> Izaya, yes
L1790[18:38:50] * Shuudoushi stabs MajGenRelativity in the neck with a shoe horn.
L1791[18:38:52] *** Vista02 is now known as BillGates
L1792[18:38:52] <Izaya> and he's trying to stop the advancement of humans
L1793[18:38:52] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Meh, I run Arch. I'm a stranger to things acting not precisely how I want them to.
L1794[18:39:00] <Izaya> by making it very difficult to get anything done on Windows
L1795[18:39:07] * MajGenRelativity deflects that stabs with his Draconic Armor
L1796[18:39:07] <Dashkal> Arch does NOT behave sanely.
L1797[18:39:08] <Shuudoushi> %quote Shuudoushi
L1798[18:39:08] <MichiBot> Shuudoushi: Shuudoushi I will malice you with a shoe horn!
L1799[18:39:13] <BillGates> I AM BILL GATES
L1800[18:39:13] <Dashkal> Not unless you set it up then never ever update.
L1801[18:39:24] <scj643> Playing tf2
L1802[18:39:25] <BillGates> FORWARD MY EMAILS OR I EAT YOUR HARD DRIVE
L1803[18:39:34] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1804[18:39:34] <Izaya> :o
L1805[18:39:34] <MajGenRelativity> XD
L1806[18:39:35] <Lizzy> BillGates, na
L1807[18:39:41] <MajGenRelativity> somebody triggered Vista02
L1808[18:39:43] <Izaya> He's talking without /me
L1809[18:39:44] <Dashkal> That said, I'll take the configurability over the pretictably not good enough that is *buntu.
L1810[18:39:49] <BillGates> Yes Izaya
L1811[18:39:53] <BillGates> I am Bill Gates
L1812[18:39:57] <Izaya> It's possible!
L1813[18:40:07] <BillGates> Maybe I will be Steve Jobs when the world ends
L1814[18:40:09] <BillGates> nobody knows
L1815[18:40:22] <BillGates> correction, I do
L1816[18:40:24] <Lizzy> also for KSP peeps: i am running a DMP server on Athar.theender.net
L1817[18:40:31] ⇦ Quits: ElTesto (webchat@24-212-242-132.cable.teksavvy.com) (Quit: Nice community, nice people, lots of answer. Would recommend. A++)
L1818[18:40:33] <BillGates> and the answer is: no i will not be Steve Jobs
L1819[18:40:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Eh, DMP is still a lot of work with mods...
L1820[18:41:02] <Izaya> fear not, BillGates
L1821[18:41:09] <Izaya> HAL-9000 will deal with you
L1822[18:41:32] <BillGates> I'm sorry Dave, but I can't do that
L1823[18:42:34] <Izaya> can't let you*
L1824[18:42:37] * BillGates begins opening airlocks
L1825[18:42:42] <BillGates> izaya, no
L1826[18:42:46] <BillGates> I cannot do
L1827[18:43:11] * CompanionCube counters BillGates with a sword made of Windows ME installation media
L1828[18:43:21] * BillGates striggles
L1829[18:43:25] * BillGates straggles
L1830[18:43:27] * BillGates stroggles
L1831[18:43:28] ⇦ Quits: BillGates (~vista02@ov9.bisecthosting.com) (Quit: BillGates)
L1832[18:43:30] * Izaya tried to imagine a sword made of CDs
L1833[18:43:47] <CompanionCube> so is my sword evil
L1834[18:43:49] <MajGenRelativity> dangit CompanionCube
L1835[18:43:53] <CompanionCube> or just infinitely terrible
L1836[18:43:55] <MajGenRelativity> you used Windows ME
L1837[18:44:03] <Izaya> a sword made up of one install of Windows 10 on floppy disks
L1838[18:44:05] <MajGenRelativity> the only thing that can out-match Vista
L1839[18:44:13] <Izaya> only one install
L1840[18:44:15] <Izaya> with some left over
L1841[18:44:18] <Kodos> Is there an easy way to assign variables to multiple same-type components, or do I need to do it manually via address
L1842[18:44:22] <CompanionCube> MajGenRelativity, maybe MS Bob would be worse if used right
L1843[18:44:23] ⇦ Quits: xarses (~xarses@64.124.158.100) (Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
L1844[18:44:32] <MajGenRelativity> MS bob?
L1845[18:44:41] ⇨ Joins: Bill_Gates (~bill_gate@ov9.bisecthosting.com)
L1846[18:44:46] <Bill_Gates> I am back
L1847[18:44:55] * Bill_Gates annihilates CompanionCube
L1848[18:45:09] * Bill_Gates takes cows
L1849[18:45:17] * Bill_Gates throws them into the abyss
L1850[18:45:27] * Bill_Gates sets MajGenRelativity to /dev/null
L1851[18:45:28] <Bill_Gates> welp
L1852[18:45:33] * Lizzy contemplates using her hammer
L1853[18:45:36] <Bill_Gates> get rekt
L1854[18:45:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: shia lebouf
L1855[18:45:53] <Shuudoushi> oh, DeanIsaKitty, what mod is those tank treads that you were using this morning from?
L1856[18:45:56] <MajGenRelativity> Bill_Gates is just slaughtering us all
L1857[18:46:07] * Bill_Gates goes into hiding
L1858[18:46:15] * CompanionCube resurrects himself from /proc
L1859[18:46:23] * Izaya carves ninja stars out of floppy disks
L1860[18:46:25] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: BD Foundries or something like that IIRC
L1861[18:46:39] * CompanionCube exploits a buffer overflow vuln to escalate to UID 0
L1862[18:46:59] <Shuudoushi> got a link?
L1863[18:47:09] <CompanionCube> kill -9 $(pidof bill_gates)
L1864[18:47:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: kerbalstuff.com <.<
L1865[18:47:38] <Bill_Gates> I have immunized myself to computers
L1866[18:47:40] <Shuudoushi> lol, that works tbh XD
L1867[18:47:42] <Bill_Gates> I am the Universe now
L1868[18:47:53] <Kodos> Does anyone know who this guy is
L1869[18:48:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: XP01/Vista02
L1870[18:48:18] <Lizzy> ^
L1871[18:48:19] <Izaya> He was XP01 at one point
L1872[18:48:21] <Kodos> Ah
L1873[18:48:35] <Izaya> he seems to have evolved
L1874[18:48:35] * Lizzy hands her hammer to Kodos
L1875[18:48:43] <Kodos> k
L1876[18:48:44] * Bill_Gates is wrekt
L1877[18:48:52] <Kodos> !kickban Bill_Gates Immunize yourself against this for 24h, eh
L1878[18:48:52] *** Bill_Gates was kicked by zsh ((Kodos) Immunize yourself against this for 24h, eh))
L1879[18:49:02] <MajGenRelativity> :/
L1880[18:49:08] <MajGenRelativity> Kodos
L1881[18:49:11] <MajGenRelativity> You banned the IP
L1882[18:49:15] <MajGenRelativity> of my entire server
L1883[18:49:22] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: Sucks to be you
L1884[18:49:25] <Kodos> Maybe tell your users not to be annoying twats?
L1885[18:49:36] <MajGenRelativity> Kodos, I'm not going to micro my users
L1886[18:49:44] <Kodos> And I'm not going to unban the IP until tomorrow night
L1887[18:49:44] <Izaya> plot twist: XP01 is MajGenRelativity
L1888[18:49:44] <MajGenRelativity> That just makes people angry
L1889[18:50:01] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: No, but now you can macro that one person out.
L1890[18:50:14] <MajGenRelativity> well, at least nobody else has MC IRC clients
L1891[18:50:18] <MajGenRelativity> DeanIsaKitty, what?
L1892[18:50:28] <Izaya> uh
L1893[18:50:36] <Izaya> wait like an OC client?
L1894[18:50:40] <MajGenRelativity> yes
L1895[18:50:41] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: kerbal foundries it seems
L1896[18:50:48] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: If somebody asks why they can't access IRC point them to XP01.
L1897[18:51:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Probably. I set up my modded 1.0.4 ages ago
L1898[18:51:01] <MajGenRelativity> DeanIsaKitty, nobody knows who XP01 is
L1899[18:51:07] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1900[18:51:18] <MajGenRelativity> otherwise I would have poked him
L1901[18:51:35] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: Well, sorry you don't know how to properly provide services.
L1902[18:51:44] <MajGenRelativity> what?
L1903[18:52:04] <Kodos> Mkay, heading to cards at mom's. When I get back, I have to write a program to store addresses of all of the same-type component, and then proxy those components via the table
L1904[18:52:35] <Dashkal> I do admit I'm very surprised you allow outgoing TCP when you have no way to isolate what player started the connection
L1905[18:52:48] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: ^ What I'm talking about
L1906[18:52:51] <MajGenRelativity> How would I isolate the player?
L1907[18:53:03] <Dashkal> I don't know of a way. Hence the surprise you left it on.
L1908[18:53:08] <MajGenRelativity> :/
L1909[18:53:29] <MajGenRelativity> It's for IRC and eventual ocranet stuff
L1910[18:53:34] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: There is none but I'm sure sangar would pull a PR adding one :P
L1911[18:53:35] <Dashkal> Allowing network from your host without a way to trace who did it is just a bad idea. Since anybody wondering why our machine did the thing ends up at you.
L1912[18:53:52] <Dashkal> See, for example, that ban~
L1913[18:54:35] <MajGenRelativity> Yeah, but what would the trace do?
L1914[18:54:40] <MajGenRelativity> It would lead to a computer
L1915[18:54:53] <Lizzy> yes, which you could then break and see who comes crying
L1916[18:54:54] <Dashkal> And if you know what, you head over there and see what player is at the console.
L1917[18:55:00] <Kodos> Or you know, if people were smart enough to use 'addUser'
L1918[18:55:03] <Kodos> It wouldn't be a problem
L1919[18:55:18] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, any decent player can make another computer
L1920[18:55:38] <Kodos> tl;dr MGR is a bad server host
L1921[18:55:49] <MajGenRelativity> Yes, yes I am
L1922[18:55:56] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, yes but how many people just thing "oh, it broke, lets make a new one"
L1923[18:56:05] <MajGenRelativity> Me
L1924[18:56:07] <Lizzy> ... what is my bouncer doing...
L1925[18:56:08] <MajGenRelativity> I have 18k diamonds
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L1927[18:56:29] <Lizzy> oh
L1928[18:56:31] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L1929[18:56:49] <MajGenRelativity> there's a thing called automation
L1930[18:56:53] <MajGenRelativity> people use it on my server :)
L1931[18:56:59] <Dashkal> That reminds me. Next server I'm shutting off the recipes for the internet card entirely.
L1932[18:57:12] <Saphire> ...
L1933[18:57:18] <Dashkal> I want the feature on so I can (ab)use it. But any connections going out are my fault.
L1934[18:57:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Hmm, what would be nice would be a netmask restricting what IPs you can access from an internet card. That way local nets could be a thing but you could not go everywhere you want.
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L1936[18:57:52] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, well, if you're not willing to put some effort into who is using what then i'm not lifting the ban.
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L1938[18:57:56] <Lizzy> ffs
L1939[18:58:01] <Lizzy> znc please
L1940[18:58:05] * Saphire notes down Dashkal as asshole admin :/
L1941[18:58:06] <Lizzy> stahp
L1942[18:58:06] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, how would I put effort into it?
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L1948[18:58:21] <Lizzy> oh
L1949[18:58:24] <Lizzy> thanks esper
L1950[18:58:30] <Dashkal> Saphire: I'm unwilling to take the risk of a player deciding to do something illegal where it'll be traced to a server I control.
L1951[18:58:33] * Lizzy presents middle finger to esper
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L1953[18:58:45] <Dashkal> The worst case is a hell of a lot more serious than a 24hr IRC ban
L1954[18:58:48] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, I don't know of any tools I can use to track the player
L1955[18:58:54] <Kodos> Saphire: That's not being an asshole, that's being smart
L1956[18:59:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: *cough* DMCA *cough*
L1957[18:59:08] <Saphire> That's paranoia
L1958[18:59:11] <MajGenRelativity> I agree with Saphire
L1959[18:59:22] <Dashkal> I've seen what people do when they thing shit can't be traced to them personally.
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L1961[18:59:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: MajGenRelativity You have the luck of never having a DMCA reach you. Good for you.
L1962[18:59:38] <MajGenRelativity> DMCA?
L1963[18:59:41] <Dashkal> Go fire up a TOR exit node and watch what spews out of it...
L1964[18:59:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Wow...
L1965[18:59:46] <MajGenRelativity> TOR?
L1966[18:59:49] * Kodos makes a note that MGR and Saphire are a bit retarded
L1967[18:59:50] <DeanIsaKitty> .-.
L1968[18:59:58] * gamax92 makes same note
L1969[19:00:03] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: Only MGR, who has no idea about anything.
L1970[19:00:06] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, well, perhaps ask around. if no-one knows then block esper connections for a bit to see if anyone else comes moaning
L1971[19:00:29] <Kodos> If Saph thinks Dash is being 'paranoid', then they have little to no knowledge of what someone can do on the internet
L1972[19:00:29] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, I asked around :/
L1973[19:00:45] <MajGenRelativity> I'm not THAT dumb
L1974[19:01:01] <MajGenRelativity> but I'll watch for complaints
L1975[19:01:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: Saphire is in Russia, laws are a bit different.
L1976[19:01:23] <Kodos> If the offense is serious enough, country of origin is irrelevant
L1977[19:01:37] <Saphire> >implying the antipiracy laws work here
L1978[19:01:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: No, not really.
L1979[19:01:48] <Saphire> Kodos: uh..
L1980[19:02:01] <Kodos> Right
L1981[19:02:03] <DeanIsaKitty> If a country does not give a fuck about the US, it wont give a fuck about the US. Russia most certainly does that
L1982[19:02:03] <Dashkal> It's simply a matter of where the blame lands if someone pulls some shit. Someone is a dick in irc, and MGR gets the fallout.
L1983[19:02:15] <MajGenRelativity> which makes me angry
L1984[19:02:20] * Dashkal shrugs
L1985[19:02:22] <Kodos> I'm not going to stress myself out by dealing with this. You guys can say or do whatever. I'm out of here
L1986[19:02:22] <Dashkal> You allowed it
L1987[19:02:23] <MajGenRelativity> I get enough crap from people already
L1988[19:02:25] <Dashkal> It /is your fault/
L1989[19:02:26] <Saphire> How the hell you do something serious using just OC on server?
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L1991[19:02:42] <MajGenRelativity> Dashkal, I'm not all seeing
L1992[19:02:50] <Dashkal> No, you're blindfolded
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L1995[19:03:00] <MajGenRelativity> what?
L1996[19:03:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: Uhm.. Internet card allows TCP connection to everywhere. What could you possibly do with that...
L1997[19:03:06] <Dashkal> You're closing your eyes and letting people on a server you control do whatever they want.
L1998[19:03:16] <Saphire> DeanIsaKitty: :/
L1999[19:03:20] <Dashkal> Well, you just found out what happens
L2000[19:03:48] <MajGenRelativity> Dashkal, if I close TCP, people can't use OPPM, right?
L2001[19:03:55] <Izaya> no
L2002[19:04:03] <Izaya> they can use http
L2003[19:04:05] <Izaya> just not tcp
L2004[19:04:06] <Saphire> DeanIsaKitty: I mean, it's not any better than using tor
L2005[19:04:07] <DeanIsaKitty> THat uses HTTP, which I think is a different option
L2006[19:04:07] <Dashkal> Saphire: OC program that makes two outgoing connections. One to where I want to connect, one to a server I personally control. The MC server is now an open proxy.
L2007[19:04:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: Uh....
L2008[19:04:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Do you have *any* idea how TOR works?
L2009[19:04:29] <Saphire> Sigh
L2010[19:04:29] * Kodos edits his notes to note that Saphire is SUPER retarded
L2011[19:05:17] <MajGenRelativity> I don't understand why you can't just mute the player instead of banning them
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L2013[19:05:32] <MajGenRelativity> That way, others don't get collateral damage
L2014[19:05:58] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: Because people don't learn when they're muted and still annoy the fuck out of opers.
L2015[19:06:07] <Saphire> Let me rephrase that (and hey, I just woke up! I'm retarted at this time .-.)
L2016[19:06:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: Yes, please do.
L2017[19:06:33] <MajGenRelativity> :/
L2018[19:06:48] <MajGenRelativity> :\
L2019[19:06:50] <MajGenRelativity> :|
L2020[19:07:10] <MajGenRelativity> whatever
L2021[19:07:29] <Saphire> You just can use tor or proxies to do something. Using minecraft for that seems.. retarded and stupid
L2022[19:08:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: Yeah, but TOR and proxies are watched more suspicious than MC.
L2023[19:08:11] <Dashkal> Given the lack of any kind of internal logging, seems reasonable to me.
L2024[19:08:33] <Saphire> ofc you can use offline/pirated server not to get you tracked down but still..
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L2026[19:08:54] <Dashkal> Sangar: Suggestion, given the above 'drama'. Internet card should be off by default.
L2027[19:09:08] <Saphire> fuck no
L2028[19:09:25] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: Furthermore logging ^ and the fact that you can not trust TOR or anonymous proxies but people that have open servers running because of stupidity / missing knowledge don't know how to binary edit in transit.
L2029[19:09:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Also MC is pretty accessible compared to TOR or proxies and pretty cheap ^^
L2030[19:10:06] <Saphire> I think that OC proxy would be slow..
L2031[19:10:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Open an issue or send a mail. He won't notice in here. Also Internet card is off by default on dedicated servers.
L2032[19:10:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: Maybe. So what?
L2033[19:10:33] <Dashkal> Sangar: I'm told that's already the case for dedicated servers. Nevermind, already reasonable :)
L2034[19:10:48] <Dashkal> DeanIsaKitty: Already done then. Admins have to opt-in to this risk.
L2035[19:10:49] <Saphire> And damn, now I want to try making a proof of concept..
L2036[19:11:24] <Dashkal> If MGR opted in, I have exactly zero sympathy.
L2037[19:11:35] <Dashkal> And more than a little amusement
L2038[19:11:37] <Saphire> welp, time to use my hideous knowledge of C and linux networking
L2039[19:11:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: You can trust Sangar with sane defaults in term of security. <.<
L2040[19:12:01] <Dashkal> Heh, I rarely trust anybody with security.
L2041[19:12:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Figures.
L2042[19:12:13] <Dashkal> People tend to get pragmatic with security.
L2043[19:12:49] <Shuudoushi> huh, seems I already had kerbal foundries installed o.O
L2044[19:13:19] <Saphire> Shuudoushi: "there is KSP in my mods"?
L2045[19:13:26] <CompanionCube> wouldn't you likely hit memory / CPU / disk limits with using OC for anything serious
L2046[19:13:38] <DeanIsaKitty> CompanionCube: For a TCP proxy? Nah
L2047[19:13:38] <Saphire> ^
L2048[19:13:39] <Shuudoushi> Saphire: pretty much
L2049[19:13:51] <Dashkal> I suspect Saphire is right and it'd be something of a slow proxy. Totally doable. Likely end up as fast as TOR at least.
L2050[19:13:58] <Shuudoushi> Saphire: I'm running over 100 mods atm lol
L2051[19:14:33] <Dashkal> Sounds like one of my bethesda game installs...
L2052[19:14:39] <Saphire> hm..
L2053[19:15:04] <Saphire> I wonder if there is already a listening tcp proxy client
L2054[19:17:45] <Shuudoushi> Dashkal: ,y install of Skyrim has well over 150 mods installed >.>
L2055[19:17:50] <Shuudoushi> my*
L2056[19:18:11] <Dashkal> Yep. I have quite a few less (Skyrim is somehow less stable with mods than minecraft) but that's the idea
L2057[19:18:16] <Shuudoushi> seems I may have a modding problem ^^;
L2058[19:18:28] <Saphire> Heh, measuring you mods ammount?
L2059[19:18:53] <Shuudoushi> Dashkal: the amount of shit I had to tweak that should never be tweaked to run that many mods was insane >.>
L2060[19:18:54] * Saphire never got skyrim with more than 10-20 mods .-.
L2061[19:18:56] <Dashkal> I'm actually somewhat impressed that bethesda mod stability is so bad by comparison. The minecraft JVM is the single most terrifying abomination of code I've ever seen, but it at least tends to crash fast or keep going for the long haul.
L2062[19:19:05] <DeanIsaKitty> JUst another dick comparison for nerds :P
L2063[19:19:24] <Shuudoushi> pretty much XD
L2064[19:19:30] <Dashkal> No argument
L2065[19:19:36] <Saphire> Shuudoushi: put that somewhere to not lose all the work
L2066[19:20:08] <Shuudoushi> Saphire: I make a backup of my skyrim dir every time I launch the game >.>
L2067[19:20:22] <Shuudoushi> and there is no less than 3 backups at a time
L2068[19:20:22] <Saphire> Dashkal: the original game is said to be buggy all alone..
L2069[19:20:31] <Dashkal> Yes, yes it is...
L2070[19:20:37] <Dashkal> Unofficial patches or no play please
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L2072[19:20:48] <Dashkal> That said, I was seriously impressed with the improvement on that front in fallout 4.
L2073[19:21:00] <Dashkal> Bugs, yes, but nowhere /near/ the mess that was Skyrim.
L2074[19:21:08] <Shuudoushi> fucking hell... http://puu.sh/mONaZ/d49b3ee29d.png
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L2076[19:21:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Told you :P
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L2078[19:21:40] <Dashkal> That's what you get for welcoming in a rainbow farting pop tart.
L2079[19:22:01] <Shuudoushi> eh, that's an issue I've had before going to 64-bit
L2080[19:22:21] <Shuudoushi> just been forgetting to point my mod loader to the launcher instead of the exe itself
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L2082[19:23:12] <Shuudoushi> I've been debating just converting KSP over to unity 5 myself...
L2083[19:23:33] <Shuudoushi> only issue, I fucking hate messing with other peoples shit when it comes to unity
L2084[19:24:03] <Shuudoushi> 9 times out of 10, everything is a fucking mess and requires a full redo
L2085[19:24:21] <Shuudoushi> compared to a quick patch that is
L2086[19:24:23] * Dashkal has noticed that very thing when trying to find libraries in his day job
L2087[19:24:32] <gamax92> Half Life 1 Engine
L2088[19:24:41] <Shuudoushi> ...
L2089[19:24:59] <gamax92> Quake 1 Engine
L2090[19:25:07] <gamax92> DOOM Engine
L2091[19:25:12] <Dashkal> I have fond memories of modding the quake 1 engine.
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L2093[19:25:26] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Thats because you're an old fart
L2094[19:25:35] <Shuudoushi> DOOM is a fucking nightmare though...
L2095[19:25:37] * Dashkal stabs the snarky kitty
L2096[19:25:43] <Shuudoushi> LMFAO
L2097[19:25:54] * DeanIsaKitty scratches Dashkal's arm open
L2098[19:25:59] * Dashkal is alergic
L2099[19:26:01] * Dashkal dies
L2100[19:26:09] <Dashkal> Wait, vampire. Can't die to that.
L2101[19:26:30] * Dashkal looks itchy and uncomfortable
L2102[19:27:35] * DeanIsaKitty gets a wooden spear and a mallet
L2103[19:27:59] <Dashkal> I removed my heart years ago. Hadn't you noticed yet?
L2104[19:28:24] <DeanIsaKitty> Hmm, yeah you're right. Heartless bitch <.<
L2105[19:28:28] <Dashkal> If you really want to force a respawn, just stick with the basics. Blast open a hole in the roof on a sunny day.
L2106[19:28:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Is it sunny where you're at?
L2107[19:29:15] <Dashkal> Overcast for the forseeable future, and sun just below the horizion anyway.
L2108[19:29:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Hmm, what happens when I just feed you C4?
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L2110[19:29:46] <Dashkal> That'll do the job pretty well too, yes.
L2111[19:30:01] * Dashkal stabs the kitty more
L2112[19:30:06] * DeanIsaKitty dodges
L2113[19:30:14] * Dashkal starts humming and paints the walls... blue?
L2114[19:30:16] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/ws3.jpg
L2115[19:30:24] * DeanIsaKitty hands Dashkal a piece of cake
L2116[19:30:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Want some cake ^^
L2117[19:30:29] <Izaya> so I put my nephew in my computer chair
L2118[19:30:38] <DeanIsaKitty> You have a nephew? <.<
L2119[19:30:48] <Izaya> one of my sisters is like 28
L2120[19:30:53] <Dashkal> I think I'll pass. Don't want to ruin my appetite before the end of year party in an hour
L2121[19:30:58] <DeanIsaKitty> That poor poor guy
L2122[19:31:45] <DeanIsaKitty> End of year party??
L2123[19:31:59] <Dashkal> Yes. We do that.
L2124[19:32:02] <Dashkal> Once a year in fact.
L2125[19:32:14] <DeanIsaKitty> And why at the end of January? <.>
L2126[19:32:20] <Dashkal> That's when scheduling allowed.
L2127[19:32:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah. ok. Whatever
L2128[19:33:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: So... basically we should be happy you did not infact dropped him on his head the second you saw him?
L2129[19:33:25] <Dashkal> Heh, I don't care about the date. I just see "Free food on work" and I'm content not to ask questions.
L2130[19:33:47] <Izaya> I'm not that bad Dean
L2131[19:34:02] <DeanIsaKitty> That is a very good argument though. You can get me to do a lot of stuff for free food. Given that its good that is.
L2132[19:34:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Also you'd be too lazy to clean that mess up
L2133[19:34:31] <Izaya> oi
L2134[19:34:34] <Dashkal> Hope so. Will find out soon enough.
L2135[19:34:37] <Izaya> it wasn't this bad before he got here
L2136[19:34:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Suuuuuure :P
L2137[19:35:53] <Izaya> I didn't have to have all my stuff on my desk so he couldn't get at it
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L2140[19:51:09] <Shuudoushi> it's taken over 30 min to load KSP...
L2141[19:51:19] <Shuudoushi> I should maybe look into that...
L2142[19:51:21] <Dashkal> You might have a problem...
L2143[19:52:01] <Shuudoushi> it's strange, that's for sure http://puu.sh/mOOYY/1ccf2ae68a.png
L2144[19:53:09] <Shuudoushi> I'm thinking Active Texture Management is what's giving me issues...
L2145[19:53:26] <Shuudoushi> maybe I'll just remove it next time I crash or something
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L2148[20:43:54] <gamax92> r.i.p chips
L2149[20:44:02] <gamax92> were crushed to death
L2150[20:47:15] <Antheus> #blame gamax92
L2151[20:48:34] <Mimiru> I have a new kitty
L2152[20:48:36] <Mimiru> \o/
L2153[20:48:47] <Antheus> Are you going to eat it?
L2154[20:48:51] <Antheus> jk
L2155[20:48:53] <Mimiru> dot dot dot
L2156[20:48:58] <Antheus> pic required
L2157[20:49:08] <Antheus> can't brag about a cat on the interwebz w/o posting a pic
L2158[20:49:09] <Antheus> also
L2159[20:49:23] <Antheus> I should get arch setup on my laptop tonight
L2160[20:49:31] <Mimiru> No pic... sorry
L2161[20:49:33] <Antheus> so I can download some lightweight games
L2162[20:49:34] <Mimiru> His name is Thor though
L2163[20:49:42] <Antheus> and play it on the bus to Austin
L2164[20:49:47] <Antheus> a 3 hour bus ride
L2165[20:49:50] <Antheus> more like 4
L2166[20:49:51] <Antheus> but
L2167[20:49:53] <Antheus> you understand
L2168[20:50:02] <Antheus> don't want to talk to others
L2169[20:50:33] <Antheus> I guess I could just wake up early
L2170[20:50:37] <Antheus> and go to bed now
L2171[20:50:43] <Antheus> .-.
L2172[20:51:12] <Antheus> Good night #oc, see yall in n+-i days!
L2173[20:51:22] <Corded> * Antheus slowly dies on the inside
L2174[20:51:34] <Mimiru> night Antheus
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L2176[21:04:42] <Kodos> o/
L2177[21:05:26] <Izaya> Mimiru, I imagine Loki would be a better name for a cat
L2178[21:05:35] <Mimiru> We had a Loki already
L2179[21:05:39] <Mimiru> Not reusing names.
L2180[21:05:49] <Izaya> Ah. Fair enough.
L2181[21:05:54] <Mimiru> Loki was great though
L2182[21:05:59] <Mimiru> Miss the fuck outa that cat
L2183[21:07:04] <Kodos> What breed of cat did you get
L2184[21:07:28] <Mimiru> Cat
L2185[21:07:29] <Mimiru> :P
L2186[21:08:21] <xarses> is it possible to tell when two devices are near each over on the network, for example If an adapter has an adjacent driver, and I put an inventory controller upgrade in said adapter, can I find their relationship in a deterministic manner?
L2187[21:08:31] <Mimiru> afaik, no
L2188[21:10:21] <Kodos> Name it Mittens Q. Deathclaw the 3rd
L2189[21:16:17] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2016-01-29_21-15-07.png
L2190[21:21:37] <xarses> kittens are the devil
L2191[21:22:25] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Mimiru: that is a cute little cat :3
L2192[21:23:23] <Mimiru> ty
L2193[21:41:07] <Kodos> Anyone know of a tool or plugin for Notepad++ that will let me highlight lines of text, and the tool can sort them alphabetically?
L2194[21:41:34] <Kodos> Nevermind, found one =D
L2195[21:43:09] <Kodos> Now to just sort my functions in a way that doesn't break things
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L2202[22:04:15] <xarses> Kodos: use sublime
L2203[22:04:27] <xarses> it does all kinds of fancy things
L2204[22:05:30] <Izaya> use vim
L2205[22:05:40] <xarses> emacs will do it too
L2206[22:05:53] <Kodos> Notepad++ did it
L2207[22:05:58] <Izaya> emacs is a nice OS and it even has a decent editor since they added evil mode
L2208[22:06:01] <Kodos> It was under line operations
L2209[22:06:33] <Kodos> Now I just have to figure out a way to get the functions sorted without it reorganizing the code within the functions
L2210[22:06:53] * xarses wonders why we are using lua instead of lisp
L2211[22:07:18] <xarses> ya, i think sublime will let you do that since it lets you fold chunks
L2212[22:07:27] <xarses> but I've never tried
L2213[22:07:47] <xarses> also, why are you sorting your functions
L2214[22:08:01] <xarses> thats the kind of anal you code in the first place
L2215[22:08:03] <Kodos> I suffer from OCPD (Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder)
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L2217[22:08:30] <Kodos> At one time, it was sorted. But I keep adding to the library
L2218[22:09:33] <xarses> I'm so annoyed i cant use emacs edit shortcuts in the OpenOS I might just have to code them in
L2219[22:10:07] <xarses> ^a ^e ^k ^y for the most part. its driving me nuts
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L2221[22:15:51] <Izaya> hey Kodos
L2222[22:15:54] <Izaya> guess what
L2223[22:17:08] <Mimiru> There... I'm done fucking with MichiBot for now
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L2227[22:18:58] <Mimiru> %quote
L2228[22:19:06] <MichiBot> Quote #2: <Shuudoushi> I will malice you with a shoe horn!
L2229[22:19:13] <Mimiru> %quote
L2230[22:19:13] <MichiBot> Quote #4: <Kodos> Life is too short for matching socks.
L2231[22:19:18] <Mimiru> ok
L2232[22:19:24] <Mimiru> %addquote Testing Testing5
L2233[22:19:25] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Quote added at id: 6
L2234[22:19:30] <Mimiru> %quote Testing
L2235[22:19:30] <MichiBot> Quote #6: <Testing> Testing5
L2236[22:19:35] <Mimiru> %delquote 6
L2237[22:19:36] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Quote removed.
L2238[22:19:41] <Mimiru> %quote Testing
L2239[22:19:41] <MichiBot> Mimiru: No quotes found for Testing
L2240[22:19:44] <Mimiru> K
L2241[22:23:20] <Kodos> %quote
L2242[22:23:22] <MichiBot> Quote #1: <Lizzy> well, fuck...
L2243[22:23:28] <Kodos> Aww, mine should be number 1
L2244[22:23:46] <Kodos> Izaya: chicken butt?
L2245[22:25:37] <Mimiru> Stuff got ordered randomly when I added the autoinc
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L2247[22:33:22] <Shuudoushi> lol... at least I managed to make a boat? http://puu.sh/mOXQe/daad547381.png
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L2249[22:37:32] <Kodos> My brain is torn between coding and photoshop, and my body just wants to sleep
L2250[22:40:02] <Izaya> Kodos:
L2251[22:40:07] <Izaya> #lua t={} start = string.byte("a") len=25 for i = start, start+len do table.insert(t,string.char(i)) end table.insert(t,math.random(1,#t),table.remove(t,math.random(1,#t))) s="" for k,v in pairs(t) do s=s..v.." " end return s
L2252[22:40:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s u v t w x y z
L2253[22:40:47] <Izaya> :3
L2254[22:40:48] <`-`> #lua ("!"):rep(26):gsub("().", function(index) return string.char(index+64) end)
L2255[22:40:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ | 26
L2256[22:40:59] <`-`> Lua has functional programming
L2257[22:41:02] <`-`> But it only works with strings
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L2259[22:41:55] <Kodos> Izaya: Now ELI5 that
L2260[22:42:14] <`-`> #lua ("!"):rep(26):gsub("().()", function(a,b) return a+b end)
L2261[22:42:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 357911131517192123252729313335373941434547495153 | 26
L2262[22:42:20] <Izaya> Look closely at the string it spat out
L2263[22:43:00] <Kodos> "u v t"
L2264[22:44:22] <CompanionCube> huh
L2265[22:45:33] <CompanionCube> why
L2266[22:46:17] <Izaya> To mess with Kodos' OCPD :p
L2267[22:46:29] <Izaya> Hopefully, anyway
L2268[22:47:44] <CompanionCube> OCPD?
L2269[22:47:58] <Kodos> I suffer from OCPD (Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder)
L2270[22:48:04] <Kodos> And they're being shitters
L2271[22:49:10] <Izaya> I do try.
L2272[22:49:44] <Izaya> anyway how it works is
L2273[22:49:57] <Izaya> first it generates a table of the letters from a to z
L2274[22:50:08] <Izaya> then takes one out at random and places it back in at a random position
L2275[22:50:23] <greaser|q> try math.random(4,#t-3) instead for stuff
L2276[22:52:38] <Kodos> I'd rather have a snippet that will make it so if I have 6 redstone components, it'll autoassign their proxy call to 'redstone1', 'redstone2', etc
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L2281[23:24:59] <Lizzy> welp, finished FMA
L2282[23:25:02] <Lizzy> now going to bed
L2283[23:35:41] <Kodos> I suck so bad at spriting
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L2286[23:50:33] <sugoi> vex ... WHERE ARE YOU
L2287[23:50:39] <gamax92> dead
L2288[23:50:42] <gamax92> r.i.p in vex
L2289[23:50:46] <sugoi> gamax92: !
L2290[23:50:49] <gamax92> hai :D
L2291[23:50:53] <sugoi> i'm 834 bytes BELOW openos 1.5
L2292[23:51:00] <sugoi> and it's not crap hacks
L2293[23:51:01] <gamax92> moar moar moar!
L2294[23:51:08] <gamax92> did you rewrite term yet? :P
L2295[23:51:41] <sugoi> no :)
L2296[23:51:48] <sugoi> can that be a 1.6 patch? :)
L2297[23:52:00] <sugoi> i really want to be done, i want to release :)
L2298[23:52:08] <sugoi> i'm happy to continue after
L2299[23:52:19] <sugoi> but this is pretty awesome (dropping below 1.5)
L2300[23:52:35] <Kodos> What are you writing anyway
L2301[23:53:14] <sugoi> mostly an upgraded shell
L2302[23:53:21] <sugoi> with fixes and optimizations in various boot areas
L2303[23:54:44] <Kodos> I'm thinking about adapting some of my lib methods into an 'easyutils' library
L2304[23:58:23] <Kodos> Oh hey, SC is free this weekend
L2305[23:58:40] <Kodos> If I started it right now, it might be downloaded when the free weekend ends
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