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L23[02:00:46] <vifino> /aaway
L24[02:01:37] <Vexatos> /ooway
L25[02:01:48] *
Vexatos pokes Techokami
L26[02:04:57] <vifino> Vexatos: /aaway runs
/away on every server I am connected to.
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L28[02:06:01] <Vexatos> #tell
L29[02:06:07] <Vexatos> Mhm how does this
work again
L30[02:06:09] <vifino> Jesus, that took
forever.
L31[02:06:44] <vifino> I took like 5 tries
to get my nickserv password right.
L32[02:08:21] <Vexatos> #help
L33[02:08:23] <Vexatos> .-.
L34[02:08:27] <Vexatos> Uuuh
L35[02:08:32] <Vexatos> what was the prefix
for MichiBot again
L36[02:08:41] <vifino> %.
L37[02:08:45] <Vexatos> %tell
L38[02:08:45] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Who did
you want to tell?
L39[02:08:47] <Vexatos> there we go
L40[02:08:47] <vifino> %tell Vexatos to
rtfm
L41[02:08:47] <MichiBot> vifino: Vexatos
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L42[02:08:57] <Vexatos> %tell vifino there
is a manual?
L43[02:08:57] <MichiBot> Vexatos: vifino
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L44[02:09:08] <Alissa> vifino: /aa best
alias though
L45[02:09:20] <vifino> %tell Vexatos `man
MichiBot`
L46[02:09:20] <MichiBot> vifino: Vexatos
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L48[02:10:29] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Techokami
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L49[02:12:08] <v^> VexaToast
L50[02:12:22] <Vexatos> Hi
L51[02:13:50] <vifino> I need to get an
Amiga 1200.
L52[02:14:36] <Vexatos> v^, what's up
L53[02:14:44] <Vexatos> Have you fixed
openprg? >_>
L54[02:14:48] <v^> oh right
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L56[02:19:25] <lperkins2> Vexatos, is there
a way to specify a dependency should be installed without
specifying where?
L57[02:20:13] <Vexatos> Well you could
specify "/" as the dependency
L58[02:20:24] <Vexatos> which would equal
"the same folder you install the parent package in"
L59[02:20:32] <lperkins2> Ah, okay
L60[02:22:09] <lperkins2> now installing
python-gml should automatically pull in gml
L61[02:25:55] <v^> Vexatos, looks like ^v4
is segfaulting for no goddamn reason
L62[02:26:08] <v^> so im attaching gdb so i
can fix it
L63[02:26:17] <Vexatos> segfault is the
best
L64[02:34:25] <ven000m_> hey guys.
L66[02:35:01] <ven000m_> i wonder if i can
add the player name that presses the button to the script
L68[02:35:14] <ven000m_> or smth like
that
L69[02:35:18] <ven000m_> would that work in
LUA?
L70[02:35:38] <v^> Program received signal
SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
L71[02:35:38] <v^> 0x00007fffe9e781bb in ??
() from /usr/lib/fglrx/libamdocl64.so
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L75[02:37:58] <v^> Vexatos, here you
go
L76[02:38:04] <v^> -^v4- From ds84182: I'm
going to murder you and wear your hair ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
L78[02:38:15] <Vexatos> <openprg
L79[02:38:16] <v^> turns out ^v4 requires
an x server
L80[02:38:23] <v^> .openprg
L81[02:38:24] <Vexatos> but why
L82[02:38:28] <v^> i have no clue
L84[02:38:40] <v^> it has probably become
sentient
L85[02:38:43] <v^> also that URL doesnt
work
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L88[02:39:17] <Vexatos> yay .-.
L89[02:39:23] <v^> just replace
pixeltoast.tk to pxtst.com
L90[02:39:32] <Vexatos> but
L91[02:39:34] <Vexatos> the URL did
work
L92[02:39:43] <v^> > just replace
pixeltoast.tk to pxtst.com
L94[02:39:55] <Vexatos> that worked
L96[02:40:24] <v^> i was thinking of
ptoast.tk
L97[02:40:38] <v^> ptoast.tk now is a
malware dickfest thanks to parking
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L100[02:43:06] <Izaya> if depth > 100
then
L101[02:43:07] <Izaya> error("link
cycle detected")
L102[02:43:16] <Izaya> that's rather not
ideal
L103[02:43:28] <v^> Izaya, lmao
L104[02:43:39] <Izaya> not my code
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L109[02:44:42] <ven000m_> can a LUA script
detect a player name?
L110[02:45:00] <Izaya> you can pull a
keyboard event
L111[02:45:09] <v^> ven000m_, key press
events give you a player name IIRC
L112[02:45:15] <v^> or is it a UUID
now
L113[02:45:17] <ven000m_> that'd be
cool
L114[02:45:23] <Kubuxu> Izaya: you could
run proper loop detection but it would complicate code a bit
L115[02:46:26] <v^> Kubuxu, well
L116[02:46:37] <v^> if you have a custom
filesystem or something
L117[02:47:00] <Izaya> I can safely say
that the filesystem lib is incomprehensible to me
L118[02:47:05] <v^> you could end up in a
while loop situation without being able to tell if it is an
infinite loop or not
L119[02:49:01] <Kubuxu> v^: proper loop
detection in O(1) memory is to walk the list at two speeds, ie.
normal and once in two times. If there is loop they will sooner or
later collide.
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L121[02:49:27] <lperkins2> ugh, we need a
way to use CC peripherals without CC installed...
L122[02:49:47] <lperkins2> I wonder how
hard it would be to auto generate mockups...
L123[02:49:50] <Vexatos> why
L124[02:50:28] <lperkins2> I hate having
CC installed, but have several addons that use it's peripheral
API
L125[02:50:33] <Kodos> Such as?
L126[02:51:12] <lperkins2> A patch for
ProjectRed which interfaces with request pipes
L127[02:51:25] <lperkins2> and a
programmable transporter mod,
L128[02:51:59] <lperkins2> Also, some
world sensors
L129[02:52:07] <lperkins2> which work with
IC2 reactors
L130[02:52:21] <Vexatos> For reactors, use
Nuclear Control
L131[02:52:35] <Vexatos> for world
sensors, Computronics and OpenPeripheral Addons
L132[02:52:52] <Vexatos>
"programmable transporter" is a Transposer or a Drone I
guess
L133[02:53:34] <lperkins2> it's a bit more
sophisticated than that,
L134[02:53:58] <lperkins2> I can update it
to use OC's API, but I haven't touched its code in like 2
years
L135[02:56:06] <lperkins2> Similarly,
project red is open source, so I can make it work too,
L136[02:56:20] <lperkins2> but a way to
use any CC peripheral without CC installed would still be
nice
L137[02:57:11] <Turtle> I'm fairly certain
you can't do that without breaking several conventions and getting
the wrath of dan for doing so
L138[02:59:49] <v^> lol i had the problem
of Project Red ONLY working for OC and not CC
L139[03:00:24] <lperkins2> Don't need to
do anything with his stuff, just have to make OC think CC is
installed and dynamically translate implementors of
IPeripheralProvider to implement ManagedPeripheral
L140[03:01:04] <lperkins2> Or possibly
just the second half of that
L141[03:01:39] <Turtle> yeah but you need
classes for that that are CC's stuff
L142[03:02:20] <lperkins2> No, you need
classes which have the same name, and good exception handling
L143[03:02:21] <Turtle> you can
reimplement those, but it will not play along nice with updates and
such, and we already have plenty of drama in minecraft
modding
L144[03:02:40] <lperkins2> I'm not sure
how much you'd actually need
L145[03:02:44] <Turtle> lperkins2, same
name, same package, and basicly identical functionality or updates
will ruin everyone involved's lives
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L147[03:03:23] <Turtle> I'm also pretty
sure using someone else's package name, let alone intentionally
creating a collision, is bad practise anyway.
L148[03:03:49] <lperkins2> You'd have to
declare a mod conflict with CC so that you can't have both
installed
L149[03:04:10] <lperkins2> but all the
arguments to callMethod are interfaces,
L150[03:04:24] <lperkins2> so you could
just provide your own implementations of them
L151[03:04:28] <Turtle> they are? I
haven't looked at the CC api tbh
L152[03:04:46] <Vexatos> lperkins2, OC
already has CC peripheral support
L153[03:04:55] <lperkins2> Yes, but only
if CC is installed
L154[03:04:58] <Vexatos> the issue is that
most mods remove their peripheral stuff when CC is not
installed
L155[03:05:02] <Vexatos> like, completely
get rid of it
L156[03:05:06] <Vexatos> via
@Optional
L157[03:05:09] <Turtle> ohhh, hurr
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L159[03:05:24] <Kodos> What if you made a
dummy mod
L160[03:05:24] <Vexatos> it won't even be
there
L161[03:05:29] <Kodos> With the same mod
ID
L162[03:05:35] <Kodos> So it would trigger
the peripheral optionals
L163[03:05:41] <Vexatos> then Computronics
would error for instance
L164[03:05:45] <Vexatos> As would
CCTweaks
L165[03:05:52] <Vexatos> and
OpenPeripheral, probably
L166[03:05:53] <Kodos>
NotMyFaultException
L167[03:06:02] <Turtle> It is if you made
the dummy mod
L168[03:06:07] <Vexatos>
gregtech.api.util.GT_ItsNotMyFaultException
L169[03:06:08] <lperkins2> So if the other
mod leaves the functions, then OC can still use the
peripheral
L170[03:06:10] <Vexatos> get your
references
L171[03:06:13] <Vexatos> :<
L172[03:06:42] <Vexatos> lperkins2, it
would work if dan's API was an @API but it is not
L173[03:06:51] <v^> well it would probably
be easier to just remove the recipies for CC
L174[03:06:59] <v^> so it wouldnt even
matter
L175[03:07:38] <lperkins2> Aye, that's
what we've done
L176[03:08:05] <Turtle> Back to abusing
selenium
L177[03:15:31] <Vexatos> red or grey
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L179[03:19:50] <Kodos> Was that a question
about Selenium, or are you just asking randomly
L180[03:20:54] <Turtle> Vexatos, I just
can't be bothered to pull the api out of >8k lines of poorly
written undocumented JS
L181[03:28:39] <v^> dan is bad coder
L182[03:28:53] <Vexatos> Kodos, red or
grey selenium
L183[03:28:56] <Vexatos> Se6 or Se8
:P
L184[03:29:16] <v^> CC is closed source
because dan and cloudy would be laughed at
L185[03:29:23] <Vexatos> no
L186[03:29:32] <Vexatos> it was something
something MCEdu contract
L187[03:29:53] <Vexatos> IIRC
L188[03:31:06] <v^> i thought MCEdu was
like way after CC was made
L189[03:32:43] <Turtle> v^ something
something the internals of minecraft
L190[03:32:58] <Kodos> FOSS or gtfo
L192[03:33:07] <v^> they could just make
their github public
L193[03:33:51] <Turtle> I ment to poke fun
about minecraft's internals being a laughable mess, not the losed
source nature of minecraft
L194[03:33:55] <Turtle> >.<
L195[03:34:10] <v^> talking about CC
L196[03:34:32] <v^> MC has been decompiled
pretty much completely
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L201[04:31:09] <vifino> Which is faster, a
Pentium M @ 2Ghz or a Pi2 @ 1Ghz?
L202[04:31:29] <vifino> Answer: They are
both slow. :|
L203[04:32:22] <vifino> Jack segfaults on
the pentium. ¬_¬
L204[04:42:45] <v^> vifino, well the pi is
ARM right?
L205[04:42:51] <v^> doesnt arm have shitty
ipc
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L207[04:43:20] <vifino> v^: Four cores
compared to a shitty old pentium m?
L208[04:43:41] <v^> x86 bruh
L209[04:43:53] <v^> x86 is magic
L210[04:44:00] <vifino> ¬_¬
L211[04:45:26] <v^> i have to sleep
L212[04:45:31] <v^> so yeah
L213[04:46:57] <v^> vifino, pentium M gets
around 9 ipc
L214[04:47:24] <v^> or 18 MIPS
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L216[04:47:34] <v^> x86 mind you
L217[04:48:29] <v^> or wait
L218[04:48:34] <v^> 18000 MIPS
L219[04:48:36] <v^> im stupid
L220[04:50:35] <v^> and most of the time
ARM cores are only 1 ipc
L221[04:50:49] <v^> so its 4000 MIPS vs
18000 MIPS
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L226[05:02:21] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: v^
is right though. x86 is absolute magic when it comes to raw power.
On the other hand ARM is absolute magic when it comes to raw power
draw :P
L227[05:07:25] <vifino> For fucks sake,
this pentium m laptop really doesn't fucking like jack.
L228[05:10:15] <vifino> Maybe it's just
freebsd being useless in regards to audio.
L229[05:10:20] <vifino> Fuck OSS.
L230[05:10:43] <vifino> "===>
Compilation failed unexpectedly."
L231[05:10:48] <vifino> Thanks,
freebsd.
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L240[05:35:28] <DeanIsaKitty> bless
you
L241[05:35:32] <Lizzy> Thanks
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L247[05:38:05] <Lizzy> if only i could
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L248[05:38:12] <Lizzy> actually that
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L249[05:38:13] <Lizzy> nvm
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L270[06:06:58] <Typogre> Hello
L271[06:07:43] <Lizzy> hi
L272[06:08:14] <vifino> Great, the test I
returned to the teacher had a weird formatting, resulting in me
getting a 5. .-.
L273[06:08:37] <vifino> Should have just
exported it as a PDF. Oh well.
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L275[06:10:07] <vifino> Also, I apparently
thought solving it in my head would be a good idea.
L276[06:11:16] <vifino> Soo, I returned a
test with invalid stuff, solved the excercises in my head and
didn't notice anything wrong.
L277[06:11:34] <vifino> Such smart I
am.
L278[06:16:56] <dangranos> literally
with... oh
L279[06:18:00] <vifino> dangranos:
Hmm?
L280[06:18:31] <dangranos> btw, by
"in your head" you mean without pen and paper at
all?
L281[06:18:36] <vifino> Yeah.
L282[06:18:56] <vifino> I did write down
the result, of course.
L283[06:19:00] <vifino> But nothing
else.
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L285[06:19:58] <vifino> But yeah, no shit
I got stuff wrong, that test wasn't supposed to be solvable without
a calculator.
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L288[06:24:06] <vifino> I have a not so
low chance of failing school, great.
L289[06:24:41] <vifino> At least there are
people right now that want to hire me, so I think even if I fail,
I'll at least get a decent job.
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L291[06:29:43] <PrinzJuliano> hey guys. Is
there an alternative for getfenv() in lua 5.2?
L292[06:30:00] <dangranos> no
L293[06:30:11] <dangranos> that's short
answer
L294[06:30:24] <dangranos> and i guess a
long answer too?
L295[06:30:34] <PrinzJuliano> but how can
you recreate the functionallity tho?
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L298[06:31:11] <dangranos> CC switcher i
guess?
L299[06:31:38] <dangranos> wai
L300[06:31:57] <dangranos> >Functions
setfenv and getfenv were removed, because of the changes in
environments.
L301[06:32:42] <PrinzJuliano> yes i used
to be coding on computer craft and im porting one of the Frameworks
i used to code with to oc
L302[06:33:16] <PrinzJuliano> can i simply
use the _ENV table as environment?
L303[06:33:52] <Sangar> short answer: yes.
long answer: probably.
L304[06:34:08] <dangranos> you can sandbox
certain things
L305[06:34:24] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: 5
letters more! You are so talky! :P
L306[06:34:42] <dangranos> PrinzJuliano:
what is the problematic code btw?
L307[06:35:29] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty,
indeed!
L308[06:35:45] <dangranos> you can also
make a sublibrary that will contain vendor-specific code
L310[06:36:02] <dangranos> couldn't you
name it .lua?
L311[06:36:04] <dangranos> just
asking
L312[06:36:37] <PrinzJuliano> its from cc
where you do not wirte the .lua extension for simplicity
L313[06:36:45] <PrinzJuliano> *write
L314[06:38:11] <dangranos> ouch, hard
tabs
L315[06:39:12] <PrinzJuliano> btw. it's
not my code it is from oeed. But I think that this API is great to
use
L316[06:39:13] <vifino> Boo-hoo, tabs,
lets be hurt by allowing people to select their favourite spacing
between indentation levels!
L317[06:39:15] <vifino> ¬_¬
L318[06:39:27] <dangranos> -_-
L319[06:39:52] <PrinzJuliano> guys i think
you're missing the point here
L320[06:40:03] <dangranos> so you just...
wrap the _G into a table?
L321[06:40:12] <PrinzJuliano>
basicly
L322[06:40:34] <PrinzJuliano> but its the
functions environment not the global one
L323[06:40:40] <dangranos> and that's
necessary because... why?
L324[06:41:06] <PrinzJuliano> loading
dynamicly components at program start
L325[06:41:30] <dangranos> i mean, why
mess with environment?
L326[06:42:39] <PrinzJuliano> well i think
i can just try to require the component and then import the
functions into .... right there is the point with the
environment
L327[06:43:26] <dangranos>
require("filename") returns whatever this filename
returns iirc
L328[06:43:59] <PrinzJuliano> alright
then
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L330[06:44:14] <dangranos> derp?
L331[06:44:36] <dangranos> i still don't
understand the point of those manipulations
L332[06:47:21] <Sangar> one of the reasons
i'm happy for _ENV is that i got the feeling a lot of people
misused g|setfenv because they didn't know better
L333[06:49:11] <dangranos> i think he
tries to sandbox the environment?
L334[07:01:29] <Izaya> Is there a decent
way to do plausible deniability under Linux?
L335[07:02:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Yes.
What exactly do you need?
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L337[07:03:11] <Izaya> Well I was
thinking, it comes up with the usual dm-crypt stuff, enter the
password for volume whatever
L338[07:03:23] <Izaya> but if I enter one
password, it boots to a more clean system
L339[07:03:38] <Izaya> and if I enter a
different password, it boots to a somewhat... less clean
system
L340[07:04:24] <vifino> Fancy Grub2
configs + btrfs subvolumes maybe?
L341[07:04:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Thats easy.
A (well done) dm-crypt system looks like random garbage anyway, so
does empty space inside a dm-crypt system. So you just have a
system inside empty space of another system.
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L343[07:05:59] <DeanIsaKitty> But make
sure you have an encrypted /boot. Otherwise you can just drop the
whole thing since its useless.
L344[07:10:37] <Izaya> hm, looks like I
can tell it to use different GRUB config files based on usernames
and passwords
L345[07:10:41] <Izaya> excellent
L346[07:10:51] <Izaya> okay,
L347[07:11:33] <Izaya> so, encrypted
/boot, have users/passwords for grub on top of that, the main one
will have clean linux and windows, and the hidden one will have the
nonclean system
L348[07:11:55] <Izaya> :D
L349[07:12:04] <Izaya> *paranoia
intensifies*
L350[07:12:14] <Izaya> too bad my laptop
doesn't support Libreboot
L351[07:12:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Make sure
the windows does not come anywhere near the dirty system
L352[07:12:58] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, it'll
be on the same disk, but the dirty system will be encrypted and
using a filesystem windows can't read anyway, even with third-party
tools
L353[07:13:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Also you
should keep in mind that when your clean linux starts writing into
the aera the dirty system is you *will* face system
corruption.
L354[07:13:06] <Izaya> (is there a BTRFS
driver for Windows?)
L355[07:13:20] <DeanIsaKitty> No, because
it will corrupt the dirty system in an instant
L356[07:14:25] <vifino> God, k20 needs a
makeover.
L357[07:14:37] <Izaya> so if I had simply
an encrypted linux and a windows partition
L358[07:14:42] <Izaya> it would corrupt
that too?
L359[07:14:44] <vifino> Fugal, did you
really have to make a ringbuffer wrapper for JACK's?
L360[07:16:21] <DeanIsaKitty> If you have
the hidden partition in the same area as windows it will corrupt
far more likely than if you have it at the very end of a linux
partition. You can control how Linux uses the space easier.
L361[07:16:51] <Izaya> Why would I have my
Windows not on a different partition?
L362[07:17:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Also, why
not just run with an encrypted live USB stick? Last time I checked
Australia had no key disclosure laws.
L363[07:17:23] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, I'm
doing this mostly for kicks
L364[07:17:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: I
don't know why you even have Windows at all.
L365[07:17:35] <Izaya> I have very little
to hide, but I want to be able to anyway.
L366[07:17:42] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, to
play... like... CLANNAD
L367[07:17:55] <Izaya> Like the only game
that doesn't work better in WINE
L368[07:18:16] <Izaya> I could probably
strip the Windows install down to 20-25GB if I wanted
L369[07:18:49] <vifino> Izaya: VT-x?
L370[07:19:01] <Izaya> vifino, blame HP,
no VT-x
L371[07:19:07] <vifino> .-.
L372[07:19:15] <vifino> God damn it,
HP.
L373[07:19:27] <Izaya> if I don't mind a
lot of heat output I can run it without VT-x though
L374[07:19:28] <vifino> It's not like it
would give you less performance if you leave it activated.
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L376[07:19:37] <Izaya> just a tiny 32-bit
XP VM
L377[07:19:45] <Izaya> vifino, supposedly
it's for battery life
L378[07:19:49] <Izaya> all 5 minutes
extra
L379[07:19:55] <vifino> Yeah..
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L381[07:20:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: a)
Keep the hidden partition as small as possible. Us a FS thats
easily resizeable. b) Use a FS you know and understand for the
"host" and do some legwork. If you can make it not write
in the hidden part and have it not look suspicious, you should do
that.
L382[07:21:13] <DeanIsaKitty> c) If you
ever hacked a HDD controller to make some sectors seem corrupted
unless the right os booted from them, you know what paranoia means
:P
L383[07:21:36] <Izaya> that sounds above
my wizardry level for the moment
L384[07:21:53] <vifino> @schiermi |
gepahed?
L385[07:21:53] <vifino> ripp | muss
irgendwas thailaendisches zu essen sein
L386[07:21:53] <vifino> 10/10
L387[07:23:29] <DeanIsaKitty> "My
hard drive boots linux" "Nothing special, like half of
the people in here use Linux" "No, you don't understand.
My HDD Controller RUNS LINUX." "..."
L388[07:23:47] <Izaya> hm
L389[07:23:57] <Izaya> depending on how
advanced the controller is and whether it uses a proper
processor
L390[07:24:10] <Izaya> I imagine more
expensive controllers could actually be made to do that
L391[07:24:23] <DeanIsaKitty> That was a
real conversation. (translated ofc)
L392[07:25:55] <vifino> Izaya: Many newer
HDD's have quite powerful controllers in them, and it's a
thing.
L393[07:26:53] <Izaya> that's sorta
awesome
L394[07:27:11] <Izaya> aren't there like,
smart cards that can run Linux or something?
L395[07:27:55] <vifino> I don't know about
that.
L396[07:28:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Yeah
there are. I haven't played with that yet sadly.
L397[07:28:34] <vifino> But if there are
washing machines which run linux, I'm sure somewhere someone
thought the exact same thing.
L398[07:28:54] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty:
Linkity?
L399[07:29:17] <Izaya> Maybe someone
should make linux printers, induce some sanity
L400[07:30:02] <vifino> Oh, there are
plenty already.
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L402[07:30:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Somehow the
mozilla webpage confuses me every time ._.
L403[07:30:41] <Izaya> vifino, are they
still evil?
L404[07:31:03] <vifino> Izaya: That was a
rethorical question, wasn't it?
L405[07:31:15] *
Izaya sighs
L406[07:32:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Has anybody
in here experience with C/C++ Development on Windows? :S
L407[07:32:57] *
vifino was about to say "I do." but then read the last
two words
L408[07:33:09] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty,
Borland?
L409[07:33:24] *
Izaya has not touched C/C++ on Windows
L410[07:33:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Hmm, I was
more looking at Mingw et al.
L411[07:34:11] <vifino> >>>
Emerging (5 of 22) x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.17::gentoo
L412[07:34:12] <vifino> Here we go
L413[07:34:16] <vifino> Brace for
impact.
L414[07:34:43] <vifino> ... Oh, it
contains nothing to be actually compiled.
L415[07:34:50] <vifino> Fair enough.
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L418[08:06:38] <vifino> The musicpd
package has been successfully installed.
L419[08:06:40] <vifino> ~o~
L420[08:07:29] <vifino> While my pi is
building wayland, my pentium m laptop has built mpd!
L421[08:07:30] <vifino> wee
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L423[08:08:45] <Izaya> vifino, I had a
great idea
L424[08:08:54] <vifino> I'm
listening.
L425[08:09:09] <Izaya> so, first, stick my
best Pentium 4 in my old desktop
L426[08:09:21] <Izaya> then, modify the
CPU cooler
L427[08:09:21] <vifino> Yes, then?
L428[08:09:31] <vifino> Fun.
L429[08:09:34] <vifino> Let it
explode!
L430[08:09:35] <Izaya> stick a large flat
surface on it
L431[08:09:43] <Izaya> or maybe
finned
L432[08:09:48] <Izaya> either way
L433[08:09:58] <Izaya> I want to cook
bacon and boil water on it
L434[08:10:02] <vifino> :D
L435[08:10:20] <vifino> If my i7-5960X is
dead, I'll make a hand warmer out of it.
L436[08:10:25] <DeanIsaKitty> Want some
tea? Welp, lets compile the new kernel.
L437[08:10:26] <vifino> A 1.2k€
handwarmer.
L438[08:10:41] <Izaya> and to make it heat
up more: folding@home
L440[08:10:49] <MichiBot> Lizzy:
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L441[08:10:51] <vifino> Gentoo. Nuff
said.
L442[08:11:13] <Izaya> 3.4Ghz, 64-bit,
hyperthreaded
L443[08:15:31] <Jelmazmo> Hi. What`s wrong
with Gentoo? And one question: anybody tried to create browser able
to open "local" sites on Minecraft server? And
"local" web-server, of course. I am just want to learn
programming using OC (like a visual material where I can see all
changes instantly), so I am interested in
"long-time"-challenge.
L444[08:16:24] <Izaya> nothing is wrong
with gentoo if it's what you like
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L446[08:16:39] <Izaya> solid source-based
distro
L447[08:17:09] <Izaya> side effect of that
means it's not too hard to use gentoo to turn a machine into a
heater though
L448[08:17:09] <Jelmazmo> In
"local" sites I mentioned something like in-game forums,
chats (without default MC-chat) and other similar thing
L449[08:17:28] <Jelmazmo> > [20:10]
<vifino> Gentoo. Nuff said.
L450[08:17:52] <Jelmazmo> I was interested
about that. Said that Gentoo like a something bad.
L451[08:17:54] <vifino> Jelmazmo:
Compiling -> Heats up CPU
L452[08:18:11] <vifino> I run Funtoo on my
raspberry pi2.
L453[08:18:22] <vifino> And I don't
dislike it.
L454[08:19:22] <Jelmazmo> Possible. As I
know, Gentoo have to compile all packets it is use, so on weak
procs it is can be very long to install nesessary apps
L455[08:19:49] <vifino> Indeed.
L456[08:20:06] <Alissa> I had to compile
the latest znc once on a Raspberry Pi. That took forever. \o/
L457[08:20:24] <vifino> But I'm a fan of
ricing, so it's not like I particularly dislike it, if I get good
results.
L458[08:20:26] <Alissa> Especially
considering I had to recompile it after compiling a custom version
of SWIG
L459[08:23:43] <Jelmazmo> I tried Gentoo
but it gave me lesser that 1 percent for perfomance, heh. So I
remained at Debian as a primary OS (and later passed on Kubuntu,
but is is a derivative of Ubuntu => Debian, so it isn`t
matters(
L460[08:24:07] <vifino> Jelmazmo: On a
Pi2, it matters much.
L461[08:24:10] <Jelmazmo> Bump: "And
one question: anybody tried to create browser able to open
"local" sites on Minecraft server? And "local"
web-server, of course. I am just want to learn programming using OC
(like a visual material where I can see all changes instantly), so
I am interested in "long-time"-challenge."
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L463[08:24:56] <vifino> Compared to Arch,
it is really speedy, because it uses fancy hard float, -O3 and
stuff. Also contains serveral "accellerated" versions of
software.
L464[08:25:10] <vifino> Like gstreamer
with hardware h264 decoder.
L465[08:25:26] <vifino> :D
L466[08:25:33] <vifino> Cousin just told
me my mainboard arrived today!
L467[08:25:36] <vifino> Weeeee!
L468[08:25:43] <Jelmazmo> vifono:
Possible. In Russia isn`t very popular devices like that, but
Google gave me enough info, so I can agree with you.
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L470[08:26:42] <vifino> Yeah, sadly it's
not popular everywhere.
L471[08:26:48] <vifino> It's a really nice
thing to toy around with.
L472[08:27:21] <Inari> Jelmazmo: why would
you not tab-complete ;-;
L473[08:27:34] <vifino> I imported dev
boards from china with my cousin, bought some from a guy who hand
soldered ones, etc..
L474[08:27:48] <vifino> But in the end,
the raspberry pi's are the ones I like the most.
L475[08:27:51] <vifino> \o/
L476[08:28:07] <Izaya> Does the Pi 2 have
SATA?
L477[08:28:11] <vifino> Nope.
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L479[08:28:25] <vifino> Only a slow usb 2
bus.
L480[08:28:35] <vifino> Not even usb
otg.
L481[08:28:54] <Izaya> right, not that I
have one, but I'd prefer a board with SATA
L483[08:31:07] <vifino> Hehe :)
L484[08:32:51] <Jelmazmo> Of course, it is
possible to order devices, and it is relatively cheap (yet after
this events with Crimes, Ukraine, ISIS/Torkey and other...), but it
is really nowhere to plug-in them
L485[08:34:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Jelmazmo:
You're in Russia? Go into HF electronics, you'll have way more fun
<.<
L486[08:39:46] <Jelmazmo> Factories uses
big servers with great power: in Russia big factory = only one
factory, small factories can`t live because Bratva (local mafia,
heh)/Military orders. In phones - Androids/IPhone only, in PCs is
preferred a "standart" ATX big computer cases with
powerful (and cheap, heh) Chinese chitterlings. In is have no
application for Pi/Pi2, microcontrollers or too small/unpowerful
for general PC/phone/tablet/anything, or too powerful
L487[08:39:47] <Jelmazmo> for very simple
task that can be realised by 3,5 lamps
L488[08:42:27] <Jelmazmo> Honestly
speaking, I am working on military factory and there are all
electronics or still on diods/triods, because it is enough, or it
is super-powerful server that can to "feed" really all
the plant, offices and other related things
L489[08:43:08] <Jelmazmo> Serve. Instead
of feed, srry, I don`t know language well and practicising
L490[08:43:18] *
Izaya wants one of those soviet LSI-11 clones
L491[08:44:59] <Jelmazmo> Izaya: You are
about PDP? It is found nowadays only in museums, heh. It was too...
"middle" and unspecialised.
L492[08:45:45] <Izaya> I only want a
PDP-11 because old UNIX, a piece of history
L493[08:46:35] <Izaya> I found a few
single chip PDP-11 processor clones from the USSR or whatever on
ebay for like $10/piece
L494[08:46:35] <Jelmazmo> But I see them
in some schools/universities like a clearly "tutorial"
machine that working with some instrumentation.
L495[08:46:59] <Izaya> Oh cool.
L496[08:48:09] <Jelmazmo> Possible, it is
possible (sorry for tautology :) ) to buy one of this from
school/university, and relatively cheap. It is changing nowadays
for modern microcontrollers
L497[08:49:25] <Jelmazmo> But where it
even works well... It is works, and making it`s task - what the
profit to change working instrument to another, that isn`t better
for it`s task?
L498[08:49:38] <dangranos>
*Possibly?
L499[08:49:55] <Jelmazmo> *Possible, srry
:/
L500[08:50:11] *
dangranos is confused
L501[08:51:55] <Izaya> "Don't fix
what isn't broken"?
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L503[08:52:14] <Jelmazmo> *\Or maybe
possibly, I have 3 in English in school :)
L504[08:52:26] <Jelmazmo> You know better,
I think
L505[08:52:36] <Jelmazmo> Izaya:
Yep.
L506[08:52:58] <Jelmazmo> It is working
=> DON`T TOUCH!!!11
L507[08:53:08] <Izaya> Keeping old
machines running would be the hard part
L508[08:53:25] <Izaya> The older the
machine, the harder it is to get parts
L509[08:53:47] <dangranos> Jelmazmo: not
really
L510[08:54:02] <dangranos> english isn't
even my native and i'm only at 9th grade
L511[08:57:34] <Jelmazmo> Well, it is yet
pretty much of "oldschool" specialists that are
remembering all about old components. When they all will go on
pension/die/anything else, Russia will massively buy new
electronics - but for now it isn`t needed. Old is working well,
giving nesessary speed of calculations, and we have a people who
can to work with it - all is well. And this "old-school"
people are tutoring young generation (students in university), so
they
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L513[08:57:35] <Jelmazmo> loose will not
be a catastrophe.
L514[08:59:19] <Jelmazmo> And, I want to
mention one fact: knowledge of historic electronics really helps in
novadays. "From simpler to hardest".
L515[09:01:20] <Jelmazmo> And of cource,
if prrogrammer knows how is working lowest-level hardware, then he
will write much more optimized code because of don`t using some
"bydlo"-features
L516[09:01:30] <Alissa> >_>
L517[09:01:33] <Jelmazmo> *course
L518[09:01:35] <Alissa> my school blocked
dash.papyros.io
L519[09:01:38] <Alissa> but not
papyros.io
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L521[09:01:46] <dangranos> wut
L522[09:01:47] <Alissa> so i can't update
papyros \o/
L523[09:01:59] <dangranos> i bet they use
pirated copy
L524[09:02:05] <dangranos> oh
L525[09:02:10] <dangranos> it's a distro
XD
L526[09:02:13] <Alissa> and on that note,
anyone know how to set up pacman to use a SOCKS proxy?
L527[09:02:23] <Alissa> dangranos: distro
and shell, I'm trying to install the shell atm
L528[09:02:24] <Jelmazmo> Alissa: Schools
is so schools :) More precisely, their system administrators.
L529[09:02:30] <dangranos> though that it
was some propriritarty program
L530[09:02:51] <dangranos> okay, this is
interesting
L531[09:02:57] <dangranos> build on top of
pacman?
L532[09:03:32] <Alissa> papyros is an Arch
fork
L533[09:03:45] <Alissa> I'm currently just
trying to get the shell.
L534[09:04:52] <Jelmazmo> I don`t tried
Arch but on Debian in likely situation I just dow
L535[09:04:55] <Jelmazmo> Fck
L536[09:05:09] <Jelmazmo> downloaded
packed files and launched them directly
L537[09:07:13] <Jelmazmo>
http://noblockme.ru/ - just enter name of site (or
google.com, or anything). I doubt that your system admins blocked a
russian site :D
L538[09:07:39] <Alissa> Jezza: That's how
official packages and some AUR packages work.
L539[09:07:52] <Alissa> ._.
L540[09:07:55] <Alissa> weird tab
complete
L541[09:08:00] <Alissa> Jelmazmo: *
L542[09:08:10] <Alissa> and, it's not the
proxy that's the problem
L543[09:08:20] <Alissa> the problem is
hooking my package manager up to the proxy
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L545[09:10:02] <dangranos>
bastaaaard
L546[09:10:14] <dangranos> papyros-shell
is wayland thing
L547[09:10:20] <dangranos> i'm on
nvidia
L548[09:10:44] <dangranos> Jelmazmo: than
you
L549[09:10:49] <dangranos> *THANK
YOU
L551[09:11:49] <dangranos> ...this isn't
https
L552[09:11:54] *
dangranos flips the table
L553[09:12:01] <Alissa> Jelmazmo: Don't
worry about it.
L554[09:12:14] <Alissa> dangranos: what is
wayland?
L555[09:12:19] <Alissa> i tried looking it
up a while back
L556[09:12:19] <Jelmazmo> k
L557[09:12:24] <Alissa> but i have no idea
what it is still
L558[09:12:26] <dangranos> x
replacement
L559[09:12:37] <dangranos> also something
that requires KVM
L560[09:12:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Alissa: `man
pacman.conf` look at XferCommand
L561[09:12:46] <dangranos> nvidia says
"fuck you" at KVM support
L562[09:12:49] <Jelmazmo> Wayland is still
live? Hm.
L563[09:13:17] <Alissa> so wait it
/requires/ wayland?
L564[09:13:28] <Alissa> because KVM
support is a nope for this computer.
L565[09:14:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Alissa:
Seems that way, yes
L566[09:14:54] <Alissa> :c
L567[09:14:57] <vifino> I hate and love
being the tech support guy.
L568[09:15:01] <vifino> Urgh.
L569[09:15:02] <Alissa> time to get a new
computer \o/
L570[09:15:10] <Alissa> vifino: i just
/love/ being family tech support
L571[09:15:12] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: I
only hate it :P
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L573[09:15:20] <Alissa> because somehow i
can manage to fix a fan :I
L574[09:15:35] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: At
work I get paid for it, pretty good might I add :P
L575[09:15:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Brb, gotta
install Windows 8 on my mum's laptop <.<
L576[09:15:54] <vifino> Installing a
cracked windows 7 on a laptop? 100€! :D
L577[09:16:04] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: I
feel your pain. :v
L578[09:16:44] <Alissa> DeanIsaKitty: Heh,
my dad made me install Windows 8.1, install /every/ update
possible, THEN upgrade to Windows 10.
L579[09:16:50] <DeanIsaKitty> Nvm, windows
want to take its time >.<
L580[09:17:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Alissa:
Luckily my dad hates W10 even more than I do
L581[09:17:22] <Jelmazmo> vifino: in
Russia it is a great business. It is very simple for _very_ lazy
man that dealing w/ support to get 10000 rubles (~1700-1800 $) in
_one_ day. And this is just for setupping cracked Windows 7 and
trial Avast Internet Security :D
L582[09:17:51] <dangranos> heh
L583[09:18:10] <DeanIsaKitty> 10000 RUB is
around 145 USD / EUR
L584[09:18:10] <dangranos> my dad hates
people like that
L585[09:18:27] <dangranos> because those
people then will complain "it's not working!"
L586[09:18:34] <dangranos> also, cracked
windows is shit
L587[09:18:41] <dangranos> especially when
it's modified
L588[09:18:43] <dangranos> ugh
L589[09:18:44] <Jelmazmo> Shit, ywe.
DealnlsaKitty thx, I losed one null
L590[09:18:47] <dangranos> "Zver
CD"
L591[09:18:56] <Daiyousei> >cracked
windows
L592[09:18:56] <Daiyousei> wot
L593[09:18:58] <dangranos> that shit is
everywhere, saw it in my school too
L594[09:19:09] <dangranos> Daiyousei:
welcome to para... russia
L595[09:19:14] <Daiyousei> oh
L596[09:19:15] <Daiyousei> i see
L597[09:20:00] <Jelmazmo> Daiyousei: hm,
in other countries police are checking all the flats and arresting
for pirate Shindoshs?
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L599[09:22:13] <Jelmazmo> And why cracked
windows is shit? Repack by Vasyan1999_PRO_S4P3R is even more stable
than official distributable disk of Windows because consist browser
(IE isn`t browser), basic antivirus, some visual themes and soft
like DaemonTools, VLC or other useful things
L600[09:22:59] <Jelmazmo> And, of course,
repack have latest updates. Without anal zonds of uncle John
:)
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L604[09:29:29] <vifino> mmm. freshly
restarted weechat.
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L612[09:58:47] *
Lizzy wants the 3rd to hurry up
L613[09:58:53] *
Lizzy wants the 3rd to hurry up and get here
L614[09:59:16] *
vifino wants Lizzy to hurry up and get here
L615[09:59:18] *
vifino runs
L616[10:01:25] <Lizzy> don't run, i'll
have to go further to get to you
L617[10:01:55] *
vifino runs to Lizzy
L618[10:02:14] <Lizzy> \O/
L619[10:02:23] <vifino> :3
L620[10:04:15] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo:
first you install cracked Windows, then you get 5 years in jail.
Install Linux instead.
L621[10:06:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Where the
fuck do you live that you'd get 5 years for *installing* a cracked
windows? 0.0
L622[10:06:49] <Lizzy> hitecnologys, i've
been using cracked windows and i have no police records
L623[10:07:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Also, can
you uninstall malware like Internet Explorer and the Store on
W8.1?
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L625[10:08:15] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, i'm
not sure, lemme check
L626[10:08:17] <hitecnologys> Lizzy:
you're not installing it on someone else's machine for money.
L627[10:08:34] <Lizzy> hitecnologys, you
didn't specify that
L628[10:09:07] <hitecnologys> Lizzy: well,
I was replying in context specified by Jelmazmo.
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L631[10:09:28] <hitecnologys> Lizzy: that
already included "for money" and "on someone's
computer".
L632[10:09:33] <Lizzy> ah
L633[10:09:46] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, you
can remove IE. the store is still there though
L634[10:09:51] <Lizzy> *cant be
removed
L635[10:11:02] <hitecnologys> Lizzy: and
it's not some scary tale. Decent amount of people goes down like
that and pays huge fines or worse.
L636[10:12:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: How
do you remove IE?
L637[10:12:10] <vifino> format C:
L638[10:12:26] <DeanIsaKitty> Huh, mingw
comes with vim 7.2 ...
L640[10:12:34] <MichiBot> vifino:
How
To Uninstall Internet Explorer | length:
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L641[10:13:37] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, go to
add/remove programs, turn windows features on/off, untick IE
L642[10:14:17] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Does
not include enough Shotgun.
L643[10:14:45] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty:
Indeed. That's why you will make a new version for me. >:3
L644[10:15:09] *
vifino would totally watch internet explorer get uninstalled using
a shotgun
L645[10:16:14] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino:
0.0
L646[10:16:17] <DeanIsaKitty> But ...
but
L647[10:16:23] <DeanIsaKitty> My poor
shotgun :<
L648[10:16:39] <vifino> Yeah... But do the
service for humanity.
L649[10:17:41] <Jelmazmo> hitecnologys:
but I an installed Linux already. I just wanted to say than
uneducated in PC people in Russia (Лохи - reads as
"lohi") want to be installed Windows on their PCs because
"linux have not gaems and vkontakte ^(" and really ready
to pay money for me to install on their PCs cracked OS with kit of
base soft
L650[10:18:12] <Jelmazmo> Good sidejob,
and not difficult :)
L651[10:18:23] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo: I
know that, I live here.
L652[10:18:41] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo:
sidejob? I've seen quite a lot of people doing that for
*living*!
L653[10:20:00] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo:
err, to be accurate I mean there, in Russia.
L654[10:20:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Do you
people have too much or too little money? <.<
L655[10:20:14] <Jelmazmo> hitecnoligys:
they are working above bratva and have to pay very large percent
from profit for крыша (krisha - sort of tax from bratva if you are
enough moron to make with them agreement)
L656[10:20:37] <Alissa> C+ :<
L657[10:20:53] <Alissa> wrong buffer
sorry
L658[10:20:54] <Jelmazmo> I am taking 100%
of price I making, without any bratva. It is not 90-s and it is
possible to work in small business
L659[10:20:54] <DeanIsaKitty> C++
:>
L660[10:20:55] *
hitecnologys Auto completion detector: *PING*
L661[10:21:27] <hitecnologys> Somebody
misspelled my name when trying to retype it!
L662[10:21:30] <Alissa> DeanIsaKitty:
>_>
L663[10:21:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Alissa:
<_<
L664[10:21:57] <Jelmazmo> DeanIsaKitty: it
is much of prople who have many money and small amount of brains,
like in every place of world :)
L665[10:22:01] <Jelmazmo> *people
L666[10:22:04] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo:
hmm, not that familiar with how it works exactly. I'm into legal
business mostly.
L667[10:22:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Jelmazmo: I
like the fact that you differentiate between many and much but then
use them the wrong way round x)
L668[10:22:44] <Vexatos> is it illegal to
install an illegally acquired OS for someone else if that other
person was the one who acquired it? :P
L669[10:22:48] <hitecnologys>
DeanIsaKitty: I wouldn't say it's either. Some people just aren't
motivated enough to become qualified enough for serious
business.
L670[10:23:01] <Alissa> Vexatos: Depends
on the terms of service.
L671[10:23:07] <Alissa> Just make them
agree to all the terms of service
L672[10:23:33] <Vexatos> I hope I won't
ever have to agree to the new winderps TOS
L673[10:23:35] <Vexatos> ToS*
L674[10:23:52] <Alissa> I got lucky in
that I - for some reason - didn't have to.
L675[10:23:54] <Jelmazmo> Vexatos: in
Russia police don`t watch on illegal/legal soft _on PCs of simple
citizens_. We have checks on factories and offices, but not
more
L676[10:23:55] <Vexatos> Already copied
over the skype configs to my other device so it won't ask me to
agree to them :P
L677[10:24:11] <Vexatos> Jelmazmo, noone
ever does
L678[10:24:12] <Alissa> probably something
about upgrading from 8.1 means i skip ToS
L679[10:24:26] <Vexatos> Lots of people in
here have gotten _something_ illegally
L680[10:24:35] <Vexatos> if only
copyrighted images from Google
L681[10:24:38] <Alissa> Jelmazmo: But if
you want support, you're fudged.
L682[10:24:52] <hitecnologys> Alissa: no,
you just call the guy who installed it.
L683[10:25:06] <Vexatos> I have been a
student all my life, so I am allowed to download random images from
google :>
L684[10:25:06] <Jelmazmo> Alissa: Support?
We have Google and Yandex :D
L685[10:25:06] <hitecnologys> Is it even
on topic here? =P
L686[10:25:18] <Alissa> hitecnologys:
We're talking computers. :P
L687[10:25:27] <Vexatos> Since it is legal
"for academic purposes" <_>
L688[10:25:30] <hitecnologys> Oh well,
alright then.
L689[10:25:33] <Jelmazmo> It is the best
support I think
L690[10:25:46] <Vexatos> Jelmazmo,
DuckDuckGo
L691[10:25:51] *
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L693[10:26:23] <Vexatos> linux mint ships
duckduckgo as one of the default search engines for firefox
L694[10:27:06] <hitecnologys> At least DDG
doesn't have shitty ads all over the page that adjust to your
queries.
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L696[10:27:40] <Jelmazmo> Vexatos: I am
speaking about simple citizen, w/ most probability he doesn`t know
about DDG
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L700[10:28:33] <Alissa> hitecnologys:
adblock though
L701[10:28:38] <Vexatos>
"simple" is a nice English word. It is highly suggestive
in multiple ways
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L704[10:29:48] <hitecnologys> Alissa:
right, but I download them anyway so it's traffic and unnecessary
load on mine and their equipment.
L705[10:29:58] <Alissa> DeanIsaKitty: I
wish it installed with Firefox pre-installed
L706[10:30:00] <Alissa> Or Chrome.
L707[10:30:00] <Lizzy> lol
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L709[10:30:35] <Jelmazmo> And yes, in
Russia from 1st January of 2016 isn`t legal to use Windows on state
factories. offices and companies, also in schools/universities
because they are mostly state too, they will be force changed on
ALT Linux/Kubuntu/some other distros
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L711[10:30:52] <Jelmazmo> Partially
because of Windows 10 :/
L712[10:31:13] <Vexatos> Linux Mint is the
best <3
L713[10:31:21] <Alissa> Arch :<
L714[10:31:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Alissa:
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Only malware left is
SkyDrive(?) and Store...
L715[10:31:49] <Alissa> OneDrive* ?
L716[10:31:51] <DeanIsaKitty> What even is
SkyDrive? Like Google's Drive thingy?
L717[10:31:56] <Alissa> idk
L718[10:31:59] <Vexatos> Microsoft's drive
thing
L719[10:31:59] <Alissa> i thought it was
OneDrive
L720[10:32:02] <Vexatos> renamed to
OneDrive
L722[10:32:04] <Vexatos> about a year
ago
L723[10:32:10] <Jelmazmo> So, in next 10
years it will be a full generation of linuxoids in whole country,
heh
L724[10:32:12] <Vexatos> it doesn't allow
direct links
L725[10:32:15] <Vexatos> so it's useless
to me
L726[10:32:28] <Alissa> cloud storage in
general is pretty useless.
L727[10:32:35] <Alissa> i just scp
everything over to my backups server :3
L728[10:32:38] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo:
from what i know, RosaLinux is the only distro actually approved by
Federal Security Agency.
L729[10:32:42] <Vexatos> Jelmazmo, if you
get to recommend one, check out Linux Mint. It's quite nice for
people used to Windows and too much to get used to
L730[10:32:47] <Lizzy> also i think they
slashed the storage space on onedrive just because a few people
were abusing the 'unlimited' plan
L731[10:33:06] <Alissa> Lizzy: Terabytes
of porn? :P
L732[10:33:29] <Lizzy> Alissa, i don't
know what it was, i just heard it from the WAN Show
L733[10:33:32] <Vexatos> Alissa:
Yobibytes
L734[10:33:38] <Jelmazmo> hitechnologys: I
read that they allowed more distros for using
L735[10:33:44] <Lizzy> i think it was a
few petabytes
L736[10:33:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: How
do I use windows update on 8.1?
L737[10:33:54] <Vexatos> PETERBYTES
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L739[10:34:14] <hitecnologys> Alissa: who
stores that on onedrive? It's not reliable enough! Gotta go with
RAID10 with at least two sites for extra redundancy at least.
L740[10:34:17] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, same
way as W7, just open the charms menu, click settings and then go to
the control panel
L741[10:34:28] <Jelmazmo> Kubuntu is
working in school where is my nephew learning, for example, and
they are not planning to change OS on PCs
L742[10:34:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Found
it \o/
L743[10:34:34] <hitecnologys> Err, s/at
least././
L744[10:34:34] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, or
right click the start button
L745[10:35:12] <Alissa> Jelmazmo: We've
(My school) moved to Google /everyhting/
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L747[10:35:21] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo:
maybe.
L748[10:35:28] <Alissa> so now it's
Chromebooks, Google Classroom, Google Drive, Google
Lunches...
L749[10:35:32] <Alissa> (just kidding on
the last part)
L750[10:35:39] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo:
don't really follow it since we use mostly Linux at work
anyway.
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L752[10:35:52] <Jelmazmo> Vexatos: I am
very long working with Linux distros, so for home I selected
Kubuntu quite a long time ago. But I know about Mint, yes
L753[10:36:17] <Sangar> o/
L754[10:36:32] <Alissa> Hey Sangar.
L755[10:36:33] <Vexatos> o\
L756[10:36:45] <hitecnologys> Vexatos:
serious people use LFS anyway, why bother choosing between all
those distros when you can just build your own?
L757[10:36:46] <Alissa> For home, I use
Windows 10 because bleh, bite me.
L758[10:36:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Snagar!
\o/
L759[10:36:51] <hitecnologys> Sangar:
greetings!
L760[10:37:01] <Alissa> My laptop is
Arch.
L761[10:37:02] *
DeanIsaKitty bite-crushes Alissa arm
L762[10:37:18] <hitecnologys> Alissa: does
it break after each update?
L763[10:37:21] <Alissa> Although I might
start using Papyros eventually
L764[10:37:23] <Jelmazmo> hitecnologys: de
facto it is only one requirement - OS mustn`t have US anal sonds,
like Windows 7/8/8.1 (with latest updates)/10 or MacOSX (nuff
said)
L765[10:37:25] <Sangar> how are we?
L766[10:37:30] <Vexatos> Sangar,
many
L767[10:37:30] <Alissa> hitecnologys: As a
matter of fact, never once has it broken.
L768[10:37:34] <Alissa> well actually
that's a lie
L769[10:37:38] <Alissa> an AUR package
broke once
L770[10:37:43] <Jelmazmo> Just politics
and anti-intelligence, nothing else
L771[10:37:44] <Alissa> but it was because
it was the unstable Git uild
L772[10:37:45] <hitecnologys> Alissa: I
see. Lucky you.
L773[10:37:47] <Sangar> excellent
L774[10:37:50] <Alissa> but only
once
L775[10:37:56] <Alissa> and i didn't even
need it apparently \o/
L776[10:38:26] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo: I
see.
L777[10:39:18] <Jelmazmo> Alissa: for what
anybody should bite you? anal zonds is your choise, nobody will not
judge you :3
L778[10:39:52] <Alissa> Jelmazmo: I can
think of many reasons.
L779[10:39:56] <Alissa> 1. Obviously
delicious
L780[10:40:05] <Alissa> 2. Attempt to gain
radioactive powers
L781[10:40:11] <Alissa> I'll stop
there.
L782[10:40:28] <hitecnologys> Alissa: can
I get a free sample on (1)? Not so sure about that.
L783[10:40:55] <Alissa> Maybe some other
time. DeanIsaKitty took out a bit too much. :P
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L785[10:41:13] <hitecnologys> Eh, gonna
get some coffee then. Be right back.
L786[10:41:16] <Jelmazmo> Hm. I waited
something "FPS in games" or "native commercial
soft". For 2nd we have a wine or windows XP/7/8/8.1 without
latest updates in dualboot
L787[10:42:12] <Jelmazmo> For 1st - games
that have clear OpenGL version (not translator from DirectX) even
have higher FPS under Linux
L788[10:43:19] <Jelmazmo> And bump
:D
L789[10:43:21] <Jelmazmo> "And one
question: anybody tried to create browser able to open
"local" sites on Minecraft server? And "local"
web-server, of course. I am just want to learn programming using OC
(like a visual material where I can see all changes instantly), so
I am interested in "long-time"-challenge."
L790[10:43:53] <dangranos> ._.
L791[10:44:00] <dangranos> PPPoE
L792[10:44:01] <Alissa> DeanIsaKitty:
._.
L793[10:44:06] <dangranos> on optical
fibre
L794[10:44:15] <dangranos> i'm...
wat
L795[10:44:15] <hitecnologys> Jelmazmo: I
think "hardware virtualization and direct IO access" and
"we don't need dual-boot" is what you were actually
trying to say.
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L801[10:47:18] <Jelmazmo> hitecnologys:
virtualization have lower efficiency when we requied FPS or just
high perfomance
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L804[10:48:07] <Jelmazmo> So wine/if wine
cannot, then dualboot is sometimes most applicable decision
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L807[10:59:04] <hitecnologys> Oh wee, I
like those random hardware failures.
L808[10:59:30] <hitecnologys> Are there
logs?
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L815[11:24:13] <Lizzy> The game
L816[11:24:16] <Alissa> Back to class.
Bye.
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L820[11:52:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: How
the fuck do you manage to be productive on Windows? q.q
L821[11:54:21] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, i
bought the strongest potions
L822[11:55:01] <Vexatos> Tier 3 mana
regen
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L824[11:57:02] <DeanIsaKitty> I mean I'm
not used to it, but absolutely everything is an uphill battle
against M$ because they think every user of Windows is stupid af.
>:|
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L826[11:57:37] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, idk,
i feel the same about mac os :P
L827[11:58:26] <Vexatos> Well Winderps is
for the realls stupid and average people
L828[11:58:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar:
Guess why I don't use that either. >.>
L829[11:58:34] <Vexatos> Mac OS is for the
really stupid and rich people :>
L830[11:58:41] *
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L832[11:59:02] <Sangar> in other news,
progress on my new mod \o/
L833[11:59:15] <scj643> New mod!!!
L834[11:59:20] <asie> Sangar: what is
it?
L835[11:59:28] <vifino>
NotOpenComputers
L836[11:59:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Why
didn't you tell me earlier?? :<
L839[11:59:32] <MichiBot> Sun Nov 29
16:26:37 CST 2015 @SangarWasTaken: Working on a new mod on the
side. Once I'm more confident I'll actually finish it, I'll share
some details.
https://t.co/jzErYarwk8
L840[11:59:37] <XDjackieXD> os x isn't as
bad. iOS is the worst shit >.>
L841[11:59:46] <scj643> I'm on iOS
L842[11:59:54] <scj643> It isn't shit for
a mobile OS
L843[12:00:04] <Sangar> asie, les pipes -
1.8.8 right?
L844[12:00:09] <asie> Sangar: yes
L845[12:00:15] <CompanionCube> OSX is for
people who like to burn money. And for hipsters.
L846[12:00:22] <XDjackieXD> It's
completely locked down. I like to tinker with my mobile os... (I
had an iPod touch and I couldn't survive without jailbreaking
it...)
L847[12:00:23] <Sangar> might throw that
in my devenv then :3
L848[12:00:28] <scj643> Or
hackentoshes
L849[12:00:31] <Vexatos> Sangar, also
install Flamingos
L850[12:00:34] <Vexatos> test with
those
L851[12:00:36] <XDjackieXD> CompanionCube:
I have os x inside a VM :P
L852[12:00:37] <asie> worldrenderer seems
to be mostly mapped now, too
L853[12:00:39] <scj643> I am jailbroken
too
L854[12:00:40] <asie> but yeah it's les
pipes
L856[12:00:49] <asie> i'm also going to
add les locks and les backpacks from BetterStorage
L857[12:00:52] <Vexatos> your argument is
invalid.
L858[12:01:04] <asie> and eventually les
Computronics audio system
L859[12:01:05] <Sangar> yeah, i saw. still
not sure how i have to port my old calls, but i'll get to that
eventually :X
L860[12:01:08] <Vexatos> DM
L862[12:01:20] <Vexatos> doooooooo
eeeeeeet
L863[12:01:21] <Sangar> as for what it
is... there's a spoiler in that screenshot!
L864[12:01:21] <Vexatos> :3
L865[12:01:27] <asie>
"tis3d"
L866[12:01:30] <asie>
"TIS-100"
L867[12:01:33] <asie> oh please no
L868[12:01:35] <Sangar> :3
L869[12:01:41] <asie> i wanted to have
dibs on the new assembly computer mod
L870[12:01:41] <Vexatos> 3tis5me+
L871[12:01:44] <asie> thanks for ruining
my fun.
L873[12:01:50] <Sangar> >_>
L874[12:01:53] <Vexatos> Call it
TooManyGraphics
L875[12:01:54] <Sangar> you can always do
better
L876[12:01:57] <asie> nah
L877[12:02:00] <asie> i can't beat
yoooou
L878[12:02:03] <Vexatos> or
NotEnoughGraphics?
L879[12:02:05] <Sangar> or contribute once
i push it to github
L880[12:02:09] <asie> >Scala
L881[12:02:11] <Sangar> nope
L882[12:02:12] <Sangar> java
L883[12:02:16] <asie> what
L884[12:02:19] <Sangar> mhm
L885[12:02:23] <asie> ehhh
L886[12:02:25] <asie> i had a vision
already and all
L887[12:02:27] <asie> bleh
L888[12:02:32] <Sangar> then go with that
;)
L889[12:02:34] <Vexatos> Why not Selene
though
L890[12:02:37] <Vexatos> >Go
L891[12:02:41] <Vexatos> asie would
probably love to
L892[12:02:50] <Sangar> i don't even have
guis yet :X
L893[12:03:07] <Vexatos> I wrote one GUI
in my life
L894[12:03:24] <asie> Sangar: i don't have
a lot of time sadly
L895[12:03:29] <asie> and I have to write
an entire redstone logic mod first
L896[12:03:46] <Vexatos> BreadLogic
L897[12:03:52] <Sangar> asie, i know that
problem. which is why this mod will be very... focused
L898[12:03:52] <Vexatos> Adds all kinds of
flavours
L899[12:03:57] <Vexatos> you need to bake
your gates
L900[12:04:00] <Vexatos> in an oven
L901[12:04:01] <asie> Sangar: well, mine
isn't
L902[12:04:05] <asie> Charset is meant to
be everything
L903[12:04:06] <Vexatos> with different
flour and grain
L904[12:04:10] <Vexatos> asie: am I doing
this right?
L905[12:04:10] <asie> in modules
L906[12:04:14] <asie> Vexatos: haha
L907[12:04:30] <Vexatos>
brotkultur.de
L908[12:04:51] <Vexatos> 3266 :U
L910[12:12:09] <XDjackieXD> the
instructions look a lot like ASM :3
L911[12:12:19] <Sangar> yep
L912[12:12:31] <Sangar> totally not the
TIS-100 instruction set, nope :P
L913[12:12:35] <XDjackieXD> :P
L914[12:13:29] <asie> Sangar: okay that is
pretty neat
L915[12:13:31] <asie> but not my
style
L916[12:13:32] <XDjackieXD> ohhhhh the
game looks nice and now I know what it does/should do ^^
L917[12:14:06] <Sangar> asie, then all is
well and you can still do your asm mod ;)
L918[12:14:19] <asie> well, forth mod with
an asm backend
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L920[12:17:36] <Sangar> i'm not sure i
wouldn't actually prefer writing asm over forth :X
L921[12:17:48] <vifino> Wow, ruuude.
L922[12:17:55] <vifino> All hail
forth.
L923[12:17:58] <vifino> <.<
L924[12:18:20] <asie> Sangar: You can do
both!
L925[12:18:28] <vifino> ForthSM
L926[12:18:38] <Sangar> okthen
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L929[12:24:20] <Pwootage> That's kinda a
cool idea
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L931[12:32:33] <Vexatos> "Florian
Nücke"? Who's that
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L933[12:34:58] <Sangar> <_>
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L935[12:44:35] <CompanionCube> imagine if
you integrated the asm with OC
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L939[12:59:18] <Pwootage> You know,
writing a vm to run in OC isn't hard (in lua or scala as an
archetecture)
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L950[15:26:42] <ds84182> Sangar: Question,
how do you build windows executables while in your non Windows OS
for OC
L951[15:27:18] <asie> ds84182: mingw
exists for linux
L952[15:27:34] <ds84182> asie: Yeah, but
doesn't that build executables that depend on mingw?
L953[15:27:42] <asie> ds84182: Can't you
link statically?
L954[15:27:46] <asie> Also, mingw is not
Cygwin
L955[15:27:54] <ds84182> Oh yeah
L956[15:27:57] <asie> Also, I *think*
Sangar doesn't actually recompile the executables every time
L957[15:28:01] <asie> but just when Lua
versions change
L958[15:28:09] <ds84182> And you can't
statically link at runtime .-.
L959[15:28:42] <ds84182> If I were to ever
resume making this ARM arch for OC, I would have to opt for using a
native ARM implementation
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L961[15:29:03] <asie> Sangar: Lua 5.3.2 is
out
L962[15:29:05] <asie> should I update eris
to that?
L963[15:29:13] <ds84182> lol, ping got
rekt
L964[15:29:54] <Sangar> asie, ik, and
sure, maybe i even find the motivation to recompile the libs
:P
L965[15:30:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, dooo
eeet
L966[15:30:07] <Sangar> (so yes, i do
build them by hand when i have to)
L967[15:30:14] <asie> Sangar: there's
actually some nice crash fixes fixed
L968[15:30:24] <ds84182> CRASH FIXES
L969[15:30:29] <Vexatos> Sangar, idea: If
no compatible lib can be found, try running "make"
:3
L970[15:30:30] <asie> crash bugs
fixed
L971[15:30:34] *
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L972[15:30:40] <ds84182> Lua is now
Nintendo
L973[15:30:54] <ds84182> Various
improvements to system stability and performance
L975[15:31:20] <asie> Lua doesn't quietly
block scripts from running
L976[15:31:25] <asie> only to leave twenty
extra holes
L977[15:31:42] <Sangar> welp
L978[15:32:00] <Vexatos> Sangar, or make
it open a GUI that has a button
L979[15:32:05] <Vexatos> "compile for
my system"
L980[15:32:06] <Vexatos> :3
L981[15:32:29] <Vexatos> because that's
totally a great idea
L982[15:32:45] <Vexatos> anyway... asie,
anything interesting except for fug bixes?
L983[15:32:51] <asie> Vexatos: no
L984[15:32:53] <Sangar> totally
L985[15:33:16] <asie> Integrated Dynamics
will be integrating with CharsetPipes
L986[15:33:28] <asie> with the two
combined (and when CharsetPipes adds color-coding and fluids) you
get pretty much all of BC's functionality
L987[15:34:51] <asie> Sangar: TIS3D sounds
like a very neat vanilla+ computer mod, by the way
L988[15:34:58] <asie> and let me tell
you
L989[15:35:06] <asie> "vanilla+
computer mod" is something i had never in my life expected to
say
L990[15:35:31] <Vexatos> Sangar, will it
have component support
L991[15:35:51] <Vexatos>
Imeantotallynotgoingtobeanedocomputerreplacementifievergettoportcomputronicscoughcough
L992[15:38:01] <Sangar> asie, glad to hear
it, because that's pretty much what i'm aiming for!
L993[15:38:23] <Sangar> Vexatos, it'll
have an api to add custom modules
L994[15:38:28] <asie> Sangar: good
L995[15:38:28] <Sangar> (the things that
slot in the sides of casings)
L996[15:38:36] <Vexatos> also an adapter
module
L997[15:38:39] <Vexatos> for component
access
L998[15:38:41] <asie> i am planning to add
some kind of adapter for my computer mod for OC
L999[15:38:43] <Vexatos> and BUSes
L1000[15:38:46] <Vexatos> able to send
bytes
L1001[15:38:46] <asie> might also add one
for the new mod
L1002[15:38:46] <Vexatos> ;_;
L1003[15:38:48] <asie> though
L1004[15:38:55] <asie> i might just use
TIS3D
L1005[15:38:59] <Sangar> coolio
L1006[15:39:03] <asie> what i do plan to
work on though
L1007[15:39:07] <asie> is a redstone
logic mod
L1008[15:39:13] <asie> wires first
likely
L1009[15:40:20] <Sangar> mhm
L1010[15:40:32] <asie> also a locking
omd
L1011[15:40:34] <asie> mod*
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L1013[15:41:11] <Vexatos> Sangar, we need
a way to send bytes to other blocks.... like the thing that
NedoComputers had
L1014[15:41:22] <Vexatos> or some way for
me to make my tape drive get bytes again >_>
L1015[15:41:27] <Vexatos> or asie's tape
drive
L1016[15:41:28] <Vexatos> rather
L1017[15:41:28] <Vexatos> :P
L1018[15:41:32] <asie> but
L1019[15:41:46] <Sangar> should be doable
to have a module that reads numbers and outputs bytes to a
neighboring block
L1020[15:41:50] <Vexatos> imagine
TIS3D.... with a 128-minute tape
L1021[15:41:56] <Vexatos> that'll be a
LOT of storage
L1022[15:41:58] <ds84182> What is
TIS3D
L1023[15:42:01] <ds84182> link me
pls
L1024[15:42:14] <Vexatos> ds84182, The
Immersive Systems - 3D
L1025[15:42:22] <Vexatos> best
backronym
L1026[15:42:24] <Sangar> <_>
L1028[15:42:50] <Vexatos> s/w/wh/
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L1030[15:48:13] <ds84182> Ohmy
L1031[15:49:06] <ds84182> Wait, so wait
what
L1032[15:49:43] <ds84182> Oh
L1033[15:49:47] <ds84182> I see how that
works I think
L1034[15:50:57] <ds84182> Sangar:
Question, when doing a MOV to a direction, does that invoke the
executable below you?
L1035[15:51:37] <Vexatos> Sangar, now...
does that mod contain ASM itself
L1036[15:52:01] <Vexatos> because then
you would have ASM running in a VM implemented in Java modified
using ASM U:
L1037[15:52:13] <ds84182> fak, my phone
just randomly rebooted
L1038[15:52:15] <ds84182> gr8
L1039[15:52:42] <Sangar> ds84182, no,
they (pretend to) run in parallel
L1040[15:53:25] <Sangar> Vexatos, not
really :P at least for now i'm just parsing the code with regex and
generating instruction nodes with an `execute` function
L1041[15:53:34] <ds84182> Sangar: What
happens in a loop then?
L1042[15:53:52] <Vexatos> Sangar, wait,
there's not even a VM?
L1043[15:53:54] <Vexatos> I mean, ASM is
ASM
L1044[15:54:00] <Sangar> pseudo vm
L1045[15:54:07] <Vexatos> I could
implement that with matches and pens
L1046[15:54:12] <Vexatos> literally
L1047[15:54:25] <Vexatos> Call the mod
NotEnoughInstructions
L1048[15:54:37] <Vexatos> anyways, time
to go
L1049[15:54:37] <Vexatos> bye
L1050[15:54:39] <ds84182> Ok, so if I got
this correctly, MOV <SIDE> <SIDE> pretty much just
connects the two forever
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L1052[15:54:56] <Sangar> ds84182, writing
to a port works by having the two endpoints calling beginWrite and
beginRead, after the update if both were called (at some point) the
port will enter transferring mode and in the next update the reader
can actually read the value
L1053[15:55:30] <Sangar> mov right right
would read a value from the right and bounce it back to the
right
L1054[15:55:46] <Sangar> i.e. mov
finishes the read first, then begins the write
L1055[15:55:59] <ds84182> Sangar: So, now
I'm guessing that programs restart from the beginning after
finishing?
L1056[15:56:08] <Sangar> yes
L1057[15:56:21] <ds84182> Alrighty, that
actually makes a lot of sense now
L1058[15:56:46] <ds84182> Sangar: lit
panels would be cool :P
L1059[15:56:53] <Sangar> yeah, planned
^^
L1060[15:56:59] <ds84182> : D
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L1062[15:57:13] <Sangar> also probably
some way of programming them without books :X (or at least in
addition to)
L1063[15:57:31] <ds84182> Sangar: You
could copy the book UI over and do stuff that way
L1064[15:57:44] <ds84182> And you could
have syntax highlighting too
L1065[15:57:58] <Sangar> possibly, yeah.
just selecting at an arbitrary position would make this a lot
less... painful :X
L1066[15:58:02] <Sangar> and that
L1067[15:58:22] <ds84182> Sangar: How
many registers does it have
L1068[15:58:29] <Sangar> and in-advance
info on parser errors. that's the t3 magical-code-input-thinger
then :X
L1069[15:58:45] <Sangar> ds84182, two.
acc and bak, and bak can only be accessed by sav and swp
L1070[15:59:00] <Sangar> it's really just
tis-100's instruction set :P
L1071[15:59:35] <Izaya> did gamax92 have
a table-to-tape program?
L1072[15:59:59] <Izaya> like,
semi-transparent?
L1073[16:01:11] <ds84182> Sangar: It
would also be cool if you could move items on your walls :P
L1074[16:01:39] <Sangar> ?
L1075[16:01:59] <ds84182> I dunno, I was
thinking of some more complex stuff
L1076[16:02:17] <ds84182> Like, sucking
the items out of chests and pushing them through the modules
L1077[16:02:31] <Sangar> that's what
pipes are for :P
L1078[16:02:39] <ds84182> Ohmy
L1079[16:02:54] <ds84182> Sangar: Also,
if you add an API, let us add instructions and new modules :P
L1080[16:02:55] <Sangar> i.e. asie's
metier
L1081[16:03:18] <Sangar> new modules yes,
instructions nah, will have to make your own execution module for
that :P
L1082[16:12:43] <ds84182> Oh god, these
call stacks are enormous
L1084[16:17:11] <MajGenRelativity> eyyyyy
it's Sangar
L1085[16:17:14] <MajGenRelativity>
sup
L1086[16:17:30] <Sangar> yo
L1087[16:18:04] <MajGenRelativity> I
still like your mod, so my life's good. How's yours?
L1088[16:19:02] <Sangar> i'm working a
new (well, additional) mod, so also good ;)
L1089[16:19:11] <MajGenRelativity> what
is it called?
L1090[16:19:17] <Sangar> TIS-3D
L1091[16:19:23] <MajGenRelativity> what
does it do?
L1093[16:19:41] <Sangar> disclaimer: very
much wip
L1094[16:20:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar:
Programming without books? Soo.... Punchcards?
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L1096[16:20:26] <Sangar> heh
L1097[16:20:28] <MajGenRelativity>
um
L1098[16:20:29] <MajGenRelativity>
well
L1099[16:20:38] <MajGenRelativity> I'll
look into it more as it progresses :)
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L1102[16:26:18] <MajGenRelativity> my new
modpack be crashing
L1103[16:27:40] <MajGenRelativity> I have
to do things, and then I will submit a crash report somewhere
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L1106[16:30:36] <MGR> DeanIsaKitty
L1107[16:30:49] <DeanIsaKitty> MGR
L1108[16:30:56] <MGR> I feel like
something happened a couple days ago involving you, but I can't
remember what
L1109[16:31:05] <MGR> I do remember that
I am supposed to feel slightly miffed
L1110[16:31:16] <MGR> Either way, I
gtg
L1111[16:31:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, I
couldn't care less.
L1112[16:31:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Bye
:P
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L1115[16:33:27] <ds84182> DeanIsaKitty:
lead foil hat
L1116[16:33:54] <ds84182> because we all
know that new pieces of tin foil contain government audio
receivers
L1117[16:35:11] <DeanIsaKitty> ds84182:
Nonono, wolfram foil hat
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L1122[16:42:29] *
CompanionCube is recompiling his DE and its dependencies from
source
L1123[16:42:34] <CompanionCube> hope
nothing breaks
L1124[16:43:29] <Mimiru> ugh moar
packets
L1125[16:43:33] <Mimiru> q_q
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L1129[16:54:36] <oc> hello?
L1130[16:55:00] <oc> Anyone here? I just
got the irc floppy
L1131[16:55:09] <CompanionCube> hi
L1132[16:55:17] <oc> oh ok phew. Hey
:)
L1133[16:55:29] <oc> I'm running on a
tablet in minecraft
L1134[16:56:27] <Sangar> wee, saving
works
L1135[16:56:36] <oc> saving on
what?
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L1138[16:57:11] <test> hmm
L1139[16:57:14] <test> better
L1140[16:57:24] <Sangar> stuff
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L1143[17:07:37] *
Sangar has a hard time resisting thinking of "wollt ihr den
totalen krieg"... :/
L1145[17:09:28] <MichiBot> DeanIsaKitty:
Warum nimmt die Bundesregierung Bruch des Völkerrechts in
Kauf? | length:
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Views:
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Tilo Jung
L1146[17:11:24] <Sangar> i actually
listened to the full videos for a time... but i can't do it
anymore, it's just too painful
L1147[17:12:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar:
Yeah, it is cringeworthy. Who voted for those guys again?
L1148[17:12:30] *
Sangar shrugs
L1149[17:14:42] *
DeanIsaKitty is torn between getting more popcorn or building a
nuclear bunker.
L1150[17:21:23] <Sangar> well, i'm off.
gnight o/
L1151[17:22:19] <ds84182> Sangar:
gnight
L1152[17:30:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar:
Night, lets hope we don't wake up to Germany starting yet another
war :P
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L1157[17:39:13] <ds84182> DeanIsaKitty: I
thought Turkey started the war
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L1173[18:13:50] <MGR> I must go
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L1175[18:14:07] <scj643> Bye
L1176[18:14:44] <ds84182> scj643: Do you
want to know about our lord and savior Anix?
L1177[18:15:02] *
scj643 walks away slowly
L1178[18:15:22] <ds84182> Our lord and
savior Anix will answer your prayers in the
kobject.newFuture()
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L1183[18:37:55] <Mimiru> Ugh... I need to
have a way to put memory cards into radios without making the GUI
huge..
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L1186[18:51:07] <Inari> Mimiru:
rightclick on a slot on radio model?
L1187[18:51:12] <Inari> with memory card
in hand
L1188[18:51:16] <Inari> no UI :P
L1189[18:53:20] <Mimiru> Ugh..
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L1193[19:03:21] <Mimiru> That means
rendering and shit
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L1195[19:04:46] <Alissa> Mimiru: But it
also means no UI.
L1196[19:04:56] <Mimiru> But it means
rendering and shit
L1197[19:05:01] <Mimiru> I'd much rather
do a GUI
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L1199[19:10:52] <Alissa> Whatever floats
your goat.
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L1201[19:22:12] <ds84182> s/floats your
goat/sinks your submarine
L1202[19:22:33] <Alissa> ds84182:
whatever floats
your submarine.
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L1204[19:26:49] <Mimiru> %sed
enable
L1205[19:26:52] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Enabled SED for this channel
L1206[19:27:02] <Mimiru> Kibided
L1207[19:27:07] <ds84182> kibided
L1208[19:27:10] <ds84182> heded
L1209[19:27:11] <gamax92> KIBIRIPU
L1210[19:27:17] <Mimiru> and
TotallyNotKatie is ded too
L1211[19:27:20] <Mimiru> though I can fix
that now
L1212[19:27:26] <gamax92> I guess this
means ...
L1213[19:27:30] <gamax92> that ocdoc must
take over
L1214[19:27:37] <ds84182> ocdoc
takeover
L1215[19:28:17] <Mimiru> hmm.. I need to
test
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L1219[19:28:58] <Mimiru> hmm
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L1222[19:29:31] *** Server sets mode:
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L1223[19:29:31] *** Server sets mode:
+ntz
L1224[19:29:31] *** Server sets mode:
+ntz
L1225[19:29:31]
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L1226[19:29:32] <ds84182> party();
L1227[19:29:32] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L1228[19:29:33] <Mimiru> ffs
L1229[19:29:33] <ds84182> SHIT
L1230[19:29:52] <gamax92> til ffs is not
a sound but actually "for fucks sake"
L1231[19:30:01] <Mimiru> lol...
L1232[19:30:09] <Alissa> gamax92,
:P
L1233[19:30:19] <ds84182>
"FFS", said the wind.
L1234[19:30:20] <gamax92> it works both
ways though
L1235[19:35:37] <Temia> >;
L1236[19:39:55] <ds84182> #lua
>;
L1237[19:39:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
[string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '>'
L1238[19:40:06] <ds84182> [string
"Temia"]:1: unexpected symbol near '>'
L1239[19:41:03] <ds84182> <>
>;
L1240[19:41:03] <^v> ds84182, false
L1241[19:41:11] <Temia> Now I want to see
a scripting language built around shitposting.
L1242[19:41:20] <Temia>
">implying x = 1"
L1243[19:41:30] <ds84182> Temia: LuaJIT +
Unicode
L1244[19:41:50] <ds84182> <>
＞=print
L1245[19:41:50] <^v> ds84182, nil
L1246[19:42:03] <ds84182> <>
＞"implying x = 1"
L1247[19:42:03] <^v> ds84182, nil
L1248[19:42:07] <ds84182> lel
L1249[19:42:08] <ds84182> fail
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L1251[19:42:16] <Mimiru> disable
L1252[19:42:21] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L1253[19:42:22] <ds84182> Mimiru:
enable
L1254[19:42:26] <gamax92> Mimiru:
enablew
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L1257[19:42:40] <gamax92> instead of
EnableA, EnableW
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L1259[19:43:13] <Mimiru> %sed
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L1260[19:43:14] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Disabled SED for this channel
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L1262[19:43:18] <Mimiru> %sed
enable
L1263[19:43:19] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Enabled SED for this channel
L1264[19:43:22] <Mimiru> k
L1265[19:43:31] <Mimiru> There.. no more
need for "TotallyNotKatie"
L1266[19:44:40] <ds84182> <>
＞"implying x = 1"
L1267[19:44:41] <^v> ds84182, lua:1:
attempt to call method 'matches' (a nil value)
L1268[19:44:43] <ds84182> shit
L1269[19:44:55] <ds84182> <>
＞"implying x = 1"
L1270[19:44:55] <^v> ds84182, nil
L1271[19:44:59] <ds84182> <>
shitpost_x
L1272[19:44:59] <^v> ds84182, 1
L1273[19:45:04] <ds84182> Temia:
done
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L1275[19:46:05] <Mimiru> %sed
enable
L1276[19:46:15] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L1277[19:46:16] <Mimiru> wtf
L1278[19:46:21] <Mimiru> fmfl I hate
python
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L1282[19:49:45] <Mimiru> %sed
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L1283[19:49:50] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
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L1289[19:50:14] <Mimiru> %sed
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L1293[19:50:38] <Mimiru> k there.
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L1312[21:05:12] <Mimiru> why the fuck do
I have 100% usage and 8 second latency on my main drive
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L1315[21:05:28] <Mimiru> Oh look 11
ms
L1316[21:05:32] <Mimiru> err 11s
L1317[21:10:19] <Temia> Why?
L1318[21:10:27] <Temia> You're running
Windows, the eternal anomalous state.
L1319[21:10:59] <Mimiru> …
L1320[21:11:11] <Temia> For all I know,
the kernel entered a blocking file operation on a bad handle.
L1321[21:11:36] <malcom2073> Windows 7
there was an application taht would show you which applications
were using hard drive bandwidth
L1322[21:11:39] <malcom2073> does 8+ have
the same?
L1323[21:11:58] <Mimiru> Sure resource
monitor, but it shows nothing
L1324[21:12:09] <malcom2073> So by
sure.... you mean no?
L1326[21:13:02] <malcom2073> Heh,
probably utorrent bitcoining :P
L1327[21:13:11] <Mimiru> this is utorrent
before all that shit
L1328[21:13:23] <Mimiru> 2.2.1
L1329[21:13:31] <Mimiru> Also, it's not
started on boot
L1330[21:13:34] <Mimiru> I started it
myself
L1331[21:14:32] <malcom2073> Just
hassling ya heh
L1332[21:14:55] <Mimiru> Oh ffs, and now
chrome is tossing random connection refused
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L1341[22:40:04] <IzayaPhone> power went
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