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L1[00:00:37] <_habnabit> Izaya, http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:sign doesn't seem to take a side, though, so i don't know how i could use down with it
L2[00:05:03] <_habnabit> oh, apparently getValue and setValue do both take a side, but it's not in the docs
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L4[00:06:37] <gamax92> Documentation is not guaranteed to be correct nor up to date.
L5[00:06:47] <_habnabit> hilarious
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L9[00:20:28] <Something12> oh, and don't forget you can also extend that shim table to include anything to "emulate" love2d's functions
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L24[02:16:25] <Turtle> \o/ laptop mc dev env should work soon(tm)
L25[02:20:29] <Turtle> ... it would maybe help if windows didn't eat the .jar extension of some libs
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L36[04:23:10] * vifino walks around brabbeling, almost whisper quiet, before eventually ending up on Lizzy's lap
L37[04:31:09] * Temia staaares. follows. curls up beside. z.z
L38[04:32:01] * Lizzy pets vifino and Temia
L39[04:33:52] * vifino purrs before stretching and curls up tightly again
L40[04:34:58] <Lizzy> #lua _G["beep"] = "abcd"; m = { _G["beep"] }; print( m[1]); _G["beep"] = "1234"; print(m[1])
L41[04:34:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > abcd | abcd | nil
L42[04:35:07] <Lizzy> damn
L43[04:35:14] <Lizzy> that didn't work how i wanted it to
L44[04:37:36] <Turtle> .-. ugh I'm annoyed at having to shell out loads-of-money(tm) because uni is being a jerk
L45[04:47:57] <Lizzy> yay, trying to come up with a structure for storing information is hard
L46[04:49:25] <Turtle> Point firehose of data somewhere, ??? , profit!
L47[04:49:48] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
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L49[04:52:54] <Lizzy> #lua print( 0x1, 0xA )
L50[04:52:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 10 | nil
L51[04:53:00] <Lizzy> #lua print( 0x1, 0xF )
L52[04:53:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 15 | nil
L53[04:53:05] <Lizzy> #lua print( 0x1, 0xFF )
L54[04:53:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 255 | nil
L55[04:53:09] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/9UWvih5.png
L56[04:53:11] <Lizzy> #lua print( 0x1, 0xF0 )
L57[04:53:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 240 | nil
L58[04:53:42] <Lizzy> #lua print( 0x1, 0x0F )
L59[04:53:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 15 | nil
L60[04:55:45] <dangranos> http://i.imgur.com/yKiZ3an.png
L61[04:55:52] <dangranos> i dont want to show my ~
L62[04:56:03] <dangranos> it's way too dirty
L63[04:56:25] <Izaya> that screenshot was my new box
L64[04:56:28] <Izaya> 'new'
L65[04:56:58] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/UDUYXz3.png my workstation
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L67[06:21:40] <DeanIsaKitty> God, I hate Windows so much >.<
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L70[06:42:04] <Izaya> Don't we all?
L71[06:42:11] <malcom2073> Is there a gui lib that uses unicode 9450+ blocks to make boxes and stuff?
L72[06:48:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: I know you do for a living :P
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L77[07:10:00] <vifino> printer, pls.
L78[07:10:04] <vifino> Behave.
L79[07:10:19] <Lizzy> "No" ~ printer
L80[07:10:42] * vifino slaps the printer
L81[07:10:42] * EnderBot2 high-fives vifino
L82[07:10:59] <Izaya> vifino, are small young humans or printers more evil?
L83[07:11:11] <vifino> Izaya: Wait, there is a difference?
L84[07:11:17] <vifino> Huh.
L85[07:11:22] <vifino> Interesting.
L86[07:11:36] <Izaya> one outputs paper it eats
L87[07:12:04] <vifino> I mean, don't blame me, both eat money like hell and stink sometimes, refusing to work more often then not.
L88[07:12:32] <malcom2073> One uses paper to display its output, one uses paper to clean its output
L89[07:13:03] <vifino> Wait, small young humans display something?
L90[07:13:12] <vifino> Huh. TIL.
L91[07:13:19] <Izaya> let's not go there
L92[07:13:20] <malcom2073> They display Promise!
L93[07:13:39] <Izaya> hah
L94[07:13:43] <malcom2073> Woohoo, I have fancy progress bars for my reactor control!
L95[07:14:00] <vifino> %flip weston
L96[07:14:00] <MichiBot> vifino: (╯°□°)╯︵uoʇsǝʍ
L97[07:14:09] <vifino> weston pls.
L98[07:14:09] <Izaya> if it makes you feel better about humanity, sure, promise
L99[07:14:16] <vifino> y u no rpi use flag
L100[07:14:19] <malcom2073> Izaya: It's how I sleep at night, don't mess with it
L101[07:14:23] <vifino> y u bork.
L102[07:14:51] <vifino> Oh, I found a difference between the small young printers and humans!
L103[07:15:08] <vifino> One lights on fire, the other don't.
L104[07:15:12] <vifino> ... Or do they?
L105[07:15:17] <vifino> Hell, if I knew.
L106[07:15:25] <Izaya> both cause fires
L107[07:15:38] <Izaya> both interfere with surrounding technology, too
L108[07:15:56] <vifino> And both require manual help cleaning their print heads.
L109[07:15:58] <vifino> :v
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L111[07:17:14] <Izaya> Both make weird useless noises
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L113[07:17:18] <Lizzy> grr, the router i picked on PacketTracer doesn't do IPv6...
L114[07:25:30] <Turtle> rip D:
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L117[07:44:52] <Turtle> \o/ I feel overly happy at getting EWS to work
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L120[09:06:14] <malcom2073> nice, I save a significant amount of fuel running my reactors with the control rods rather than just on/off control
L121[09:06:20] <malcom2073> <3 oc
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L126[09:38:10] <MajGenRelativity> I am sad
L127[09:38:19] <MajGenRelativity> AtLauncher rejected my modpack
L128[09:38:26] <asie> ATLauncher rejects modpacks
L129[09:38:27] <asie> =)
L130[09:38:35] <MajGenRelativity> asie, I know they do
L131[09:38:41] <MajGenRelativity> I just thought mine was good :|
L132[09:38:55] <asie> It might have been
L133[09:38:57] <asie> but they also reject duplicates
L134[09:38:59] <asie> or similar packs
L135[09:38:59] <MajGenRelativity> I can send you a link to the mod spreadsheet if you want to offer a suggestion?
L136[09:39:01] <asie> or packs with similar mods
L137[09:39:06] <asie> Also, I'd rather read the configs
L138[09:39:14] <asie> mod spreadsheets are useless - almost every mod combination has been done multiple times over
L139[09:39:36] <MajGenRelativity> I didn't even get to the point of doing the configs :((((
L140[09:39:58] <asie> That means your pack had nothing unique going for it, likely. Just throwing mods together is easy now and unless you have some really crazy combination it won't work
L141[09:40:02] <MajGenRelativity> The pack submission first step is to tell them what type of pack and send in a spreadsheet of all the mods with the perms to use them
L142[09:40:08] <asie> Yes. Of course.
L143[09:40:17] <asie> But you know, sending them a working pack to showcase its uniqueness is better
L144[09:40:19] <asie> likely
L145[09:40:36] <MajGenRelativity> What?
L146[09:40:52] <MajGenRelativity> How would I send them a working pack?
L147[09:41:01] <asie> In the description!
L148[09:41:04] <asie> Or name exactly what you did to make it unique
L149[09:41:25] <asie> and I mean *did*, not *will do*. Ideas without execution are fleeting thoughts...
L150[09:41:34] <asie> Remember, there's tons of launchers to choose from
L151[09:41:41] <MajGenRelativity> I did a tech pack with a few automation and tech-integration magic mods
L152[09:41:43] <asie> FTB, Technic, AT, forking SKCraft, etc
L153[09:41:45] <asie> wait
L154[09:41:48] <asie> that sounds like, um
L155[09:41:50] <asie> what everyone else is doing
L156[09:41:57] <MajGenRelativity> *facepalms*
L157[09:41:59] <asie> what made yours unique?
L158[09:42:07] <MajGenRelativity> Love and Hard Work?
L159[09:42:19] <asie> Okay, that makes it unique from the average kitchen sink
L160[09:42:21] <asie> but
L161[09:42:24] <asie> that's still not unique, at all
L162[09:42:25] <MajGenRelativity> lol
L163[09:42:35] <MajGenRelativity> How would I make it unique?
L164[09:42:40] <asie> I don't know.
L165[09:42:48] <MajGenRelativity> I thought as much :P
L166[09:43:05] <Vexatos> How to make a pack unique, step 1: Have Flamingo be the central mod in the pack
L167[09:43:26] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos
L168[09:43:30] <MajGenRelativity> what is Flamingo
L169[09:43:51] <MajGenRelativity> Does it literally just add flamingos?
L170[09:44:15] <Vexatos> BEHOLD: http://gfycat.com/LameShockingDingo
L171[09:45:00] <MajGenRelativity> ok
L172[09:45:01] <asie> should I
L173[09:45:03] <asie> port Flamingo to 1.8.8
L174[09:45:07] <MajGenRelativity> yes
L175[09:46:57] <MajGenRelativity> Other than making a public modpack for my server, anyone have good ideas to advertise it?
L176[09:47:28] <Vexatos> asie: Feel free to make a PR, I'd definitely release it >_>
L177[09:47:58] <asie> MajGenRelativity: Get a booth at BetterThanMinecon
L178[09:48:01] <asie> http://btm.asie.pl/16/
L179[09:48:09] <Vexatos> speaking of advertisement
L180[09:48:11] <Vexatos> :^)
L181[09:49:29] * MajGenRelativity starts hyperventilating
L182[09:49:36] <MajGenRelativity> That sounds like a lot of people
L183[09:50:26] <MajGenRelativity> Um
L184[09:50:53] <MajGenRelativity> How could I show off my modpack with a booth?4
L185[09:52:02] <Vexatos> http://btm.asie.pl/15/gallery.html
L186[09:52:14] <Vexatos> third row, first and third column
L187[09:53:13] <Lizzy> ^ only works on large screens, my mobile has 2 columns
L188[09:53:49] <Vexatos> the stuff with the netherrack >_>
L189[09:54:08] <asie> That's big and you probably won't get as much
L190[09:54:11] <asie> But use it to show what's unique!
L191[09:54:16] <asie> Or just have an OpenComputers ad scream
L192[09:54:20] <asie> ad screen*
L193[09:54:22] <asie> not scream
L194[09:54:41] <Vexatos> "ad scream"
L195[09:54:50] <Vexatos> I know that neptunepink would know how that would work
L196[09:54:58] <Vexatos> In fact, he would probably add it to Factorization
L197[09:55:11] <MajGenRelativity> Hm
L198[09:57:03] <MajGenRelativity> That brings me back to the problem of what makes my modpack unique
L199[09:57:09] <MajGenRelativity> I shall ponder that
L200[09:57:09] <Pwootage> Yay, vacation + working on OC scripts day
L201[09:57:13] <Pwootage> Oh, and turkey I guess
L202[10:00:30] <MajGenRelativity> I must go
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L205[10:08:22] <MajGenRelativity> I HAVE AN IDEA
L206[10:08:53] <MajGenRelativity> Instead of trying to make a unique modpack that can grab attention, I can advertise my server instead!
L207[10:09:50] <MajGenRelativity> It came on the heels of another brilliant idea that finally allows me to flush large amounts of essentia from my ME network
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L212[10:25:30] <ironmountain> Hey errybuddy
L213[10:25:43] <MajGenRelativity> hello ironmountain
L214[10:25:52] <ironmountain> How are you?
L215[10:26:15] <gamax92> Howard you?
L216[10:26:31] <MajGenRelativity> I am well, how are you?
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L218[10:27:02] <ironmountain> Quite well. I haven't slept for 27 hours but I'm still going strong.
L219[10:27:31] <MajGenRelativity> well
L220[10:27:40] <MajGenRelativity> that sounds intense
L221[10:27:48] <ironmountain> Extremely
L222[10:27:51] <DeanIsaKitty> 27 hours? Pff, fucking casuals.
L223[10:28:03] <ironmountain> ;-;
L224[10:30:50] <MajGenRelativity> DeanIsaKitty, do tell of your tales of lack of sleep
L225[10:31:43] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: Not lack of sleep, loads of work and a tight timeframe.
L226[10:31:50] <MajGenRelativity> ah
L227[10:31:58] <MajGenRelativity> I once stayed up until 1 AM
L228[10:32:02] <MajGenRelativity> I regretted it so much
L229[10:32:17] <gamax92> I stayed up last night till ~1:40
L230[10:32:24] <gamax92> didn't regret
L231[10:33:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Which resulted in 42h of more or less continuous labour carrying, setting up, operating, taking down & storing of equipment.
L232[10:33:52] <ironmountain> MajGenRelativity, so edgy staying up past midnight
L233[10:34:03] <MajGenRelativity> listen m8
L234[10:34:09] <ironmountain> Seriously
L235[10:34:09] <gamax92> /ignore MajGenRelativity
L236[10:34:11] <gamax92> nope
L237[10:34:12] <MajGenRelativity> I need at least 8 hours of sleep every night
L238[10:34:24] <MajGenRelativity> gamax92, I have had enough of your disingenuous assertions
L239[10:34:36] <gamax92> k dun't care
L240[10:34:39] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: Don't mess with gamax92. Just *don't*.
L241[10:34:43] <ironmountain> I would recommend getting that 8 hours down to 6
L242[10:35:04] <MajGenRelativity> ironmountain, no
L243[10:35:04] <DeanIsaKitty> ironmountain: Maj is a kid, they still need a lot of sleep.
L244[10:35:19] * MajGenRelativity stares
L245[10:35:21] <MajGenRelativity> no
L246[10:35:35] <ironmountain> >_>
L247[10:35:48] <gamax92> yeah but just realize when you're an adult, that whole being a perfect right angle with 8 hours of sleep becomes near impossible
L248[10:35:52] <gamax92> so it's better to practice now
L249[10:35:59] <ironmountain> ^
L250[10:36:04] <DeanIsaKitty> There is an EXTENDED version of the Hobbit movies?? They already made three movies out of one book, what did they do now?? <.<
L251[10:36:17] <ironmountain> Seriously?
L252[10:36:19] <MajGenRelativity> I am an adult
L253[10:36:23] <MajGenRelativity> I still get 8 hours of sleep
L254[10:36:24] <Mimiru> I've not seen 8 hours of sleep in a long. time.
L255[10:36:24] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: No, you're not.
L256[10:36:30] <MajGenRelativity> It's called not having a social life
L257[10:36:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Mimiru: You have kids. You will never sleep again.
L258[10:36:51] <Mimiru> I usually crash by 1-2 and up by 6:30
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L260[10:37:32] <MajGenRelativity> I also don't have a full-time job
L261[10:38:15] <gamax92> So, not an adult
L262[10:38:32] <DeanIsaKitty> *So* not an adult :P
L263[10:39:12] <MajGenRelativity> I am an adult
L264[10:39:17] <MajGenRelativity> I just don't have a full-time job
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L268[10:51:27] <ConcernedHobbit> Hello, it's me. I was wondering who pinged me?
L269[10:52:09] <DeanIsaKitty> Me. Now go back to your cave. :P
L270[10:52:17] <MajGenRelativity> lol
L271[10:54:13] * Skye demolishes the cave
L272[10:54:23] * DeanIsaKitty demolishes SkySom
L273[10:54:32] * DeanIsaKitty demolishes Skye
L274[10:54:41] * MajGenRelativity demolishes DeanIsaKitty
L275[10:54:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Whoops. Eh, collateral damage
L276[10:54:50] * Skye revives
L277[10:54:53] <Skye> ouch
L278[10:55:10] <Skye> being turned into a puddle of blood is painful
L279[10:55:31] <MajGenRelativity> I would expect so
L280[10:55:42] * Skye glares at DeanIsaKitty
L281[10:56:05] * DeanIsaKitty polishes claws
L282[10:57:08] * MajGenRelativity unsheathes his Kikoku
L283[10:57:10] * Skye searches around in a bag
L284[10:57:13] <Skye> awww
L285[10:57:15] <Skye> I lost it...
L286[10:57:38] * DeanIsaKitty hands Skye a portable railgun
L287[10:57:44] <DeanIsaKitty> You're searching that one?
L288[10:57:57] <Skye> no
L289[10:58:22] * Skye sighs
L290[10:58:34] <Skye> I'd turn everyone into a kitten
L291[10:59:10] * Skye decides to hide in the bag instead
L292[10:59:49] <MajGenRelativity> why
L293[11:00:05] * Skye is bored
L294[11:00:18] * Lizzy picks up the bag Skye is in and puts it on the shelf
L295[11:00:19] <MajGenRelativity> inhale
L296[11:00:27] <Skye> wha
L297[11:00:31] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, i wouldn't advise that
L298[11:00:31] * Skye is scared
L299[11:00:43] <Skye> I'm high up! I can't move!
L300[11:01:01] * Lizzy brings Skye down again
L301[11:01:08] * MajGenRelativity takes the bag with Skye in it and shreds it
L302[11:01:29] * Skye is happy then killed slowly and painfully
L303[11:01:29] * Lizzy teleports Skye out just before he gets shredded
L304[11:01:36] <MajGenRelativity> no
L305[11:01:38] * Skye is not killed?
L306[11:01:39] <MajGenRelativity> I don't shred Skye
L307[11:01:42] <MajGenRelativity> just the bag
L308[11:01:52] * Lizzy guards Skye from MajGenRelativity
L309[11:01:59] <MajGenRelativity> I don't want to kill Skye!
L310[11:02:05] * Skye throws MajGenRelativity's shoes into the shredder
L311[11:02:29] <Skye> ^.^
L312[11:02:32] <MajGenRelativity> this is seriously what I get for helping?
L313[11:02:40] <Skye> YOU SHREDDED MY BAG
L314[11:02:44] * MajGenRelativity runs his Kikoku through Skye and Lizzy
L315[11:02:57] * Skye revives with a new bag
L316[11:03:16] <MajGenRelativity> you can't revive from a Kikoku hit
L317[11:03:34] <Skye> IN #OC YOU ALWAYS REVIVE
L318[11:04:02] <MajGenRelativity> NOT WITH THE EU GOD SWORD
L319[11:04:18] <Skye> Lizzy is a goddess of #oc, I think
L320[11:04:56] <Mimiru> Lizzy and I share that responsibility :P
L321[11:04:58] <MajGenRelativity> the Kikoku can kill a god too
L322[11:05:05] <Lizzy> Mimiru, +1
L323[11:05:16] <MajGenRelativity> It killed Mianite
L324[11:05:21] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, a god? maybe. a goddess? na
L325[11:05:33] <MajGenRelativity> what's the difference other than gender?
L326[11:06:13] <Skye> MajGenRelativity, in #oc? Goddesses are more powerful, I guess.
L327[11:06:54] <MajGenRelativity> I'm just going to go back to manufacturing unnecessarily large amounts of items
L328[11:07:18] * MajGenRelativity is away for now
L329[11:08:11] <Lizzy> the ops in #oc are about 66/33 female. if you're wondering why not 50/50, it's because spiriteddusty is rarely here
L330[11:08:42] <MajGenRelativity> Is that supposed to convey a weighty matter to me?
L331[11:08:44] <Vexatos> what about zsh?
L332[11:08:58] <MajGenRelativity> I don't exactly care too much about the gender of my operators
L333[11:09:16] <Vexatos> I call that a 0.4-0.4-0.2
L334[11:09:22] <Lizzy> zsh has yet to identify as any so it's nutral
L335[11:09:26] <Lizzy> i also canot spell
L336[11:09:27] <Vexatos> exactly
L337[11:09:43] <Vexatos> so it's 40/40/20
L338[11:10:21] <MajGenRelativity> ok
L339[11:10:27] <MajGenRelativity> I'm going to go eat
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L341[11:13:55] <SuPeRMiNoR2> op40/40/20
L342[11:14:13] * Lizzy throws a blowup beachball at SuPeRMiNoR2
L343[11:14:26] * SuPeRMiNoR2 is holding a pin
L344[11:16:48] * Skye sets the concept of Gender on fire
L345[11:18:32] * DeanIsaKitty sets Skye on fire to make "her" a "it"
L346[11:19:07] <Sangar> o/
L347[11:19:20] <SuPeRMiNoR2> \o
L348[11:19:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Snagar! \o/
L349[11:19:43] * Vexatos snags the ar
L350[11:19:55] <Sangar> so today's the day the us napalms turkey?
L351[11:20:07] <Pwootage> Mine's going to be smoked!
L352[11:20:08] * Skye respawns
L353[11:20:14] <Pwootage> But yes :D
L354[11:20:25] <Vexatos> Sangar,
L355[11:20:26] <Vexatos> <Saice> Happy turkey murder day everyone
L356[11:20:28] <Vexatos> I guess so
L357[11:20:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Certainly going to do something with turkey XD
L358[11:20:36] <Sangar> heh
L359[11:20:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar! Why you no email? :|
L360[11:21:01] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, bc i realized i also no pgp at home and i lazy
L361[11:21:02] <Vexatos> But we all know that German bread is superior to turkey anyway
L362[11:21:08] <Sangar> also i no home yesterday evening :X
L363[11:21:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Why you suck so much? :X
L364[11:21:50] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, it's my life goal
L365[11:22:19] <DeanIsaKitty> I like that attitude.
L366[11:22:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Can I eat it?
L367[11:22:32] <Sangar> if you smoke it
L368[11:22:41] * DeanIsaKitty starts roasting Sangar
L369[11:22:55] <Sangar> *'s hopes and dreams
L370[11:23:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Uhm, now I got to think of something new...
L371[11:23:20] <Pwootage> Argh, why is it so obnoxious to deal with networking >:(
L372[11:23:24] <Sangar> in other news, 1.8.8 breaks so much stuff again, gah. signature changes suck :X
L373[11:23:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: #Microsoft
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L375[11:24:05] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, #Microjang
L376[11:24:26] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: #BothSuck
L377[11:24:29] <Pwootage> is it so much to ask for an async "let me know when data comes in"?
L378[11:24:37] <Pwootage> Actually node has that, I guess I'll write it in node
L379[11:25:07] * DeanIsaKitty starts hugging Sangar
L380[11:25:28] * Sangar starts holding his breath
L381[11:25:28] <DeanIsaKitty> With fire and white phosphorus
L382[11:26:42] * Sangar turns into smoke
L383[11:26:45] <Skye> is it me or does DeanIsaKitty like causing pain and death
L384[11:26:55] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I was wondering why my laptop was low on ram. Turns out a VM of fedora was running
L385[11:27:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Skye: Maaaaayybeeeee :DD
L386[11:27:07] <Sangar> it's what happens when you embrace the dark side
L387[11:27:13] <Sangar> wait
L388[11:27:17] <Sangar> does that make me the dark side?
L389[11:27:19] <Sangar> hmmmm
L390[11:27:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Nah
L391[11:27:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Unless you hate me. Then yes :P
L392[11:27:49] <Skye> DeanIsaKitty, do you have cookies?
L393[11:27:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Skye: Loads.
L394[11:28:00] <Sangar> what is this hate you speak of?
L395[11:28:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Chocolate. Raisins are for the light side.
L396[11:28:10] <Skye> Sangar, do you have cookies?
L397[11:28:18] <Sangar> Skye, ask my browser
L398[11:28:33] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Sangar'sBrowser: Do you have cookies?
L399[11:28:56] *** DeanIsaKitty is now known as SangarsBrowser
L400[11:28:59] <SangarsBrowser> SuPeRMiNoR2: No, fuck off
L401[11:28:59] <Sangar> my browser says "Yes, come to the dark side, we have all the cookies."
L402[11:29:05] *** SangarsBrowser is now known as DeanIsaKitty
L403[11:29:07] <Sangar> :X
L404[11:29:57] <gamax92> Sangar: mint
L405[11:30:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Arch
L406[11:30:24] <gamax92> >_>
L407[11:30:26] <gamax92> Arch Cookies?
L408[11:30:52] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Rescuing you from the flood since 500 BC
L409[11:30:57] <gamax92> lol
L410[11:30:57] <Sangar> isn't/wasn't chocolote a desktop thinger even?
L411[11:31:05] <DeanIsaKitty> chocolote <.<
L412[11:31:11] <Sangar> ey
L413[11:31:11] <gamax92> I know Chocolaty is a Windows Package manager
L414[11:31:14] <Sangar> spelling is overrated
L415[11:31:20] <Sangar> (no it's not)
L416[11:31:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: You are overrated :X
L417[11:31:25] <gamax92> ^
L418[11:31:33] <Sangar> oh, that might be what i was thinking of possibly
L419[11:31:36] <Sangar> yeah, i'm aware
L420[11:31:37] <DeanIsaKitty> You nickpicked me for like 4 hours for spelling :X
L421[11:31:45] <Sangar> moreso than most others :X
L422[11:32:04] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Sangar
L423[11:32:10] <gamax92> awwww~
L424[11:32:10] <DeanIsaKitty> No you're not. You're awesome :3
L425[11:32:13] * Skye hugs Sangar
L426[11:32:17] <Sangar> just because i expect others to have perfect spelling doesn't imply i need to :3
L427[11:32:24] * DeanIsaKitty slaps Skye
L428[11:32:24] * EnderBot2 high-fives DeanIsaKitty
L429[11:32:25] <gamax92> yes it doe
L430[11:32:27] <DeanIsaKitty> My Sangar :<
L431[11:32:37] <Sangar> HUGFEST
L432[11:32:45] <Sangar> anyway
L433[11:32:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: fucking hypocrite hipster <.<
L434[11:32:57] <Sangar> me in a nutshell i guess
L435[11:33:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Minus the fucking part?
L436[11:33:06] <Skye> If I ship DeanIsaKitty and Sangar, will I get brutally murdered?
L437[11:33:14] <Sangar> but plus the <.<, yes
L438[11:33:25] <Sangar> depends on how much you charge
L439[11:33:30] <DeanIsaKitty> Skye: You'll get an invitation to the wedding
L440[11:34:03] <Skye> oh
L441[11:34:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Skye: Actually, if you manage to get Sangar out of his cave for once you'll get a huge cookie from me.
L442[11:34:57] <Sangar> what cave? >_>
L443[11:35:19] <DeanIsaKitty> The cave you call home you fucking stone age man <.<
L444[11:35:28] * Skye fills the cave with concrete after dragging Sangar outside
L445[11:35:59] <Sangar> just because i don't have a smartphone >_>
L446[11:36:20] <DeanIsaKitty> YES! Just because you don't have a smartphone~
L447[11:36:23] <gamax92> notassmartasyouphone
L448[11:36:23] <Sangar> the new WorldRenderer implementation confuses me :/
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L450[11:36:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: You confuse me too :|
L451[11:36:37] <Sangar> all the custom data layouts...
L452[11:36:41] <gamax92> Sangar: can I ask you a lua modding related question?
L453[11:36:52] <Sangar> i cannot comprehend with just the field_123 names :/
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L455[11:37:05] <Sangar> gamax92, can you?
L456[11:37:30] <gamax92> Yes, and here goes: Would you know anything about patching lua to accept += -= *= /= %=
L457[11:37:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Want to have an absolutely confusing data structure?
L458[11:37:52] <DeanIsaKitty> FtDs blueprints q.q
L459[11:38:02] <Sangar> gamax92, dig into the parser and find where operators are handled, i guess?
L460[11:38:02] <gamax92> adding variable (that operation) expression to lua's grammar
L461[11:38:16] * Lizzy presents herself as the answer to DeanIsaKitty's data structure question
L462[11:38:40] <gamax92> nah, DeanIsaKitty knows Lizzy in and out
L463[11:39:13] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: You hit the nail on the head :P
L464[11:39:33] <coiax> I'm having trouble using EnderIO's Insulated Redstone Conduits to send "coloured" signals. It was mentioned in this Github issue which is closed about a year ago https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/613
L465[11:40:32] <Sangar> do you have mfr installed?
L466[11:41:17] <Turtle> lol. that reminds me of the office compatibility fix trick
L467[11:41:59] <coiax> I am not sure, is there a quick way of checking?
L468[11:42:15] <Turtle> You got NEI? Look for any of the MFR machines
L469[11:42:16] <coiax> but I certainly don't have any of the minecraft factory reloaded blocks
L470[11:42:22] <coiax> which would certainly indicate no
L471[11:46:05] <Pwootage> Did anyone ever get an ecmascript arch working in OC?
L472[11:57:59] <Lizzy> "<gamax92> nah, DeanIsaKitty knows Lizzy in and out" *lenny*
L473[11:58:20] <SuPeRMiNoR2> here you go: ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
L474[11:58:28] <Lizzy> that looks messed up
L475[11:58:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Its winking
L476[11:58:53] <Lizzy> right, now that i've had dinner. back to rocksmith
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L480[12:21:40] <Alissa> Greetings.
L481[12:21:47] <Alissa> Is there any update at all on using SSL over TCP?
L482[12:28:03] <MajGenRelativity> Greetings Alissa
L483[12:28:08] <MajGenRelativity> I have absolutely no idea
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L486[12:34:54] <Mimiru> yay youtube-dl on windows thanks chocolatey
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L488[12:36:49] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khfJ-HB12Z0
L489[12:36:51] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Dara O'Briain on NCT Classes | length: 11m 13s | Likes: 477 Dislikes: 7 Views: 103157 | by Mango Swiss
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L491[12:42:51] <Alissa> Mimiru: Mind if I pass you a few playlists? :P
L492[12:43:04] <Mimiru> I have no idea why you'd bother.
L493[12:43:40] <Alissa> I tried youtube-dl on here once but it didn't really like me. But it was more of a joke than an actual request.
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L495[12:44:08] <Mimiru> It's annoying to use.. it downloads to C:\Windows\syswow64
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L497[12:47:21] <Mimiru> and using -o results in permission denied
L498[12:47:22] <Mimiru> fun
L499[12:48:57] <Mimiru> Ah... it failed to CD like I told it to
L500[12:48:57] <Mimiru> fun
L501[12:51:11] <coiax> so I just discovered that the environment that EEPROMs run in doesn't have require()
L502[12:51:18] <Lizzy> nope
L503[12:51:22] <Lizzy> ~w custom os
L504[12:51:22] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L505[12:51:34] <Lizzy> coiax, ^ is pretty much what eeproms have
L506[12:51:39] <coiax> I suppose this makes sense, but how do I do stuff with my microcontrollers
L507[12:52:03] <coiax> okay so these are the variables already in the namespace?
L508[12:52:06] <coiax> or table?
L509[12:52:13] <coiax> I'm sorry, I don't know lua words
L510[12:52:14] <Lizzy> already in the namespace
L511[12:52:58] <coiax> hmm, okay
L512[12:53:00] <coiax> helpful, thanks :)
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L515[12:55:36] <coiax> also, when I craft an assembler + EEPROM to change the inner EEPROM, shouldn't I get the old one back?
L516[13:02:10] <coiax> oh, you get it back, huh
L517[13:02:12] <coiax> never mind
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L519[13:14:37] <coiax> Is there a built in program in the basic OS for sending basic network messages?
L520[13:15:31] <Lizzy> apart from going into the lua prompt and invoking the component, not that i know of
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L527[13:28:11] <coiax> Here is my wireless Redstone unit code: http://pastebin.com/xdF1hGEQ which is crashing on line 15, bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil)
L528[13:29:14] <Lizzy> replace arg with ...
L529[13:29:21] <Lizzy> or {...}
L530[13:29:31] <Lizzy> on line 15
L531[13:30:57] <coiax> now it's saying badargument to ipairs, table expected, got number
L532[13:31:09] <coiax> so progress :D
L533[13:31:23] <Vexatos> hey ds84182, you were the guy installing the new AMD driver two days ago, or did I misremember ;_;
L534[13:32:14] <coiax> debugging code without some form of introspection or random print statements is difficult
L535[13:32:31] <Vexatos> then add random print statements
L536[13:32:40] <Lizzy> Vexatos, microcontroller
L537[13:32:41] <Vexatos> oh wait, MCU
L538[13:32:48] <Vexatos> uuuh
L539[13:32:50] <Vexatos> last time I checked
L540[13:32:54] <Vexatos> the Beep card worked in it
L541[13:32:56] <Lizzy> coiax, if you're only ever passing one parameter to sum, just do it normally. the triple dots is only used if you are potentially expecting to have more/an unknown amount of parameters
L542[13:33:00] <Vexatos> also computer.beep should be a thing too
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L544[13:33:02] <Vexatos> in the MCU
L545[13:33:06] <coiax> yeah, it is, I'm using it
L546[13:33:22] <coiax> I'm attempting to "sum" a string into a number to pass into computer.beep
L547[13:33:37] <coiax> and I don't quite understand how multiple parameters works in lua yet
L548[13:33:58] <Lizzy> are you passing multiple strings to the sum() function or just one?
L549[13:33:58] <coiax> (I mean, this sum code works in the repl.it lua interpreter :3)
L550[13:34:02] <coiax> uh
L551[13:34:11] <Vexatos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/lib/note.lua
L552[13:34:15] <Vexatos> that's how I did it
L553[13:34:21] <coiax> I'm passing it string.byte(STRING, 1, -1)
L554[13:34:36] <Vexatos> note.freq is probably the one interesting to you
L555[13:34:44] <Lizzy> lua return string.byte( "noodles", 1, -1)
L556[13:34:49] <Lizzy> #lua return string.byte( "noodles", 1, -1)
L557[13:34:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 110 | 111 | 111 | 100 | 108 | 101 | 115
L558[13:35:16] * Vexatos hies
L559[13:35:19] * Vexatos hides, even
L560[13:35:28] <Lizzy> #lua a = table.pack(tring.byte( "noodles", 1, -1)), return serialize(a)
L561[13:35:28] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near 'return'
L562[13:35:38] <Lizzy> #lua a = table.pack(tring.byte( "noodles", 1, -1)); return serialize(a)
L563[13:35:38] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to index a nil value (global 'tring')
L564[13:35:45] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L565[13:35:49] <Lizzy> #lua a = table.pack(string.byte( "noodles", 1, -1)); return serialize(a)
L566[13:35:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global 'serialize')
L567[13:35:51] <Lizzy> .-.
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L569[13:36:15] <Lizzy> #lua a = table.pack(string.byte( "noodles", 1, -1)); return serialize.serialize(a)
L570[13:36:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to index a nil value (global 'serialize')
L571[13:36:18] <Lizzy> meh
L572[13:36:34] <coiax> so the string.byte() is returning multiple values
L573[13:36:37] <coiax> a bunch of numbers, right?
L574[13:36:40] <Lizzy> yes
L575[13:36:55] <coiax> so how do I treat that like a table
L576[13:37:00] <Vexatos> {string.bytes("noodles", 1, -1)}
L577[13:37:03] <Vexatos> how about that
L578[13:37:23] <Vexatos> #lua local d = {string.bytes("noodles", 1, -1)} for i,j in ipairs(d) do print(i,j) end
L579[13:37:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (field 'bytes')
L580[13:37:28] <Vexatos> ehmwat
L581[13:37:34] <Vexatos> ehmsrslywat
L582[13:37:37] <Lizzy> bytes > byte
L583[13:37:42] <Vexatos> #lua local d = {string.byte("noodles", 1, -1)} for i,j in ipairs(d) do print(i,j) end
L584[13:37:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 110 | 2 111 | 3 111 | 4 100 | 5 108 | 6 101 | 7 115 | nil
L585[13:37:45] <Vexatos> there we go
L586[13:38:04] <Vexatos> would be way easier with Selene, obviously, but you won't get that on an MCU :P
L587[13:38:23] <coiax> oh shit, ran out of oxygen, brb
L588[13:38:25] <Vexatos> it's currently 10 times as big as Lua ;_;
L589[13:38:40] <Vexatos> asphyxiation in 3....2....
L590[13:38:51] <Lizzy> coiax, in your pastebin: change the ipairs(arg) on line 15 to read ipairs({...})
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L592[13:39:20] <MrWonderful2016> would it be possible to compile c code in java?
L593[13:39:27] <gamax92> sure
L594[13:39:32] <Lizzy> toaster
L595[13:39:32] <Vexatos> of course
L596[13:39:38] <Vexatos> just need a C compiler in Java
L597[13:39:42] <Vexatos> because that makes sense
L598[13:39:48] <Vexatos> since Java is written in C
L599[13:39:50] <Vexatos> ...
L600[13:39:53] <gamax92> lua compiler in lua
L601[13:39:54] <MrWonderful2016> It is?
L602[13:39:58] <gamax92> why would it not be?
L603[13:40:00] <Vexatos> isn't everything?
L604[13:40:01] <Skye> MrWonderful2016, it's possible. but not practical.
L605[13:40:05] <Vexatos> Like, _everything_ kind of
L606[13:40:08] <MrWonderful2016> ok
L607[13:40:09] <Vexatos> C compilers are compiled in C
L608[13:40:27] <Lizzy> can microcontrollers be turned on via the network wake messages like normal computers?
L609[13:40:35] <gamax92> you can run a tiny linux with gcc in jpc, compiling C via java? c:
L610[13:40:58] <Vexatos> Lizzy, pretty sure
L611[13:41:00] <coiax> Lizzy, thanks it's now working
L612[13:41:05] <MrWonderful2016> would an addon that lets you write code in c be feasable
L613[13:41:08] <Vexatos> since it should be in the native computer API
L614[13:41:12] <Lizzy> coiax, no problem
L615[13:41:18] <MrWonderful2016> or would it be too slow
L616[13:41:22] <gamax92> MrWonderful2016: you have to find a C compiler for Java first.
L617[13:41:22] <Vexatos> MrWonderful2016, have fun sandboxing C
L618[13:41:26] <gamax92> also that
L619[13:41:29] <Lizzy> Vexatos, cool. that gives me a few ideas for stuff
L620[13:41:31] <coiax> second question, do signs always have newline characters in them?
L621[13:41:39] <Vexatos> Lizzy, just use Ticket machines instead
L622[13:41:41] <Vexatos> and Flamingos
L623[13:41:46] <Vexatos> they will solve all your problems
L624[13:41:53] <MrWonderful2016> or maybe it could be done natively clientside
L625[13:41:59] <Pwootage> Sandboxing c is easy with a VM
L626[13:42:05] <Pwootage> Also, OC has no clientside (not really)
L627[13:42:07] <Lizzy> Vexatos, Mimiru doesn't have the flamingo's on her server
L628[13:42:22] <gamax92> all of the computer stuff is on the server
L629[13:42:31] <MrWonderful2016> I mean that it the client has a c compiler on their computer
L630[13:42:39] <MrWonderful2016> and they process it
L631[13:42:46] <Lizzy> too risky
L632[13:42:47] <gamax92> that is heavily exploitable
L633[13:42:57] <Vexatos> what
L634[13:43:01] <Vexatos> Mimiru,
L635[13:43:02] <Vexatos> how
L636[13:43:08] <gamax92> Client -> Server: Yeah I totally compiled that code, this binary is totally not malware
L637[13:43:12] <Vexatos> how are you physically capable of not having installed Flamingo
L638[13:43:21] <Vexatos> I am unable to comprehend this
L639[13:43:33] <Lizzy> brb restarting to linux because my desktop's windows install doesn't have my stylish stuff
L640[13:43:51] <Mimiru> Vexatos, because.
L641[13:43:55] <Vexatos> gamax92, Sangar uses native libs
L642[13:44:01] <Vexatos> so why not for C xD
L643[13:44:02] <Lizzy> whilst it's doing that though: laptop!
L644[13:44:08] <Vexatos> just assume gcc is there
L645[13:44:12] <Vexatos> or something <_>
L646[13:44:22] <MrWonderful2016> or maybe it could send the c code to the localhost
L647[13:44:32] <coiax> oh, Computers can't take sign upgrades :(
L648[13:44:40] <Lizzy> coiax, adapters can
L649[13:44:41] <Lizzy> i think
L650[13:44:43] <Vexatos> coiax, doesn't it fit into the adapter?
L651[13:44:46] <MrWonderful2016> or just do it the same way lua is done natively
L652[13:44:53] <coiax> oh, cool, let me make one
L653[13:44:58] <MrWonderful2016> would run really fast
L654[13:45:33] <Lizzy> lua is done though (default) 5 worker threads that are started by scala/the JVM
L655[13:45:53] <Mimiru> hah... Totally just installed sudo on windows :P
L656[13:45:55] <MrWonderful2016> but there is a config option for doing it natively
L657[13:46:08] <Lizzy> ?
L658[13:46:26] <Lizzy> MrWonderful2016, what config option?
L659[13:47:07] <MrWonderful2016> alwaystrynative
L660[13:47:38] <Lizzy> that's the native libs bundled with OC, the fallback if those don't work is LuaJ
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L662[13:47:56] <MrWonderful2016> oh
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L664[13:48:07] <MrWonderful2016> so they arent actually native
L665[13:48:11] <coiax> how do I use the sign i/o upgrade in the adaptor? The wiki doesn't have anything
L666[13:48:16] <gamax92> Vexatos: the point is doing it on the client makes zero sense
L667[13:48:23] <Lizzy> Icedream, DFrostedWang only one account in here at a time please
L668[13:48:28] <Vexatos> of course it doesn't
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L670[13:48:46] <Lizzy> thanks
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L672[13:49:06] <Lizzy> and pc is on linux
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L676[13:50:38] <coiax> how do I use the adapter? :3
L677[13:50:48] <MrWonderful2016> oh
L678[13:51:10] <Lizzy> coiax, it'll provide whatever component you put into it
L679[13:51:16] <MrWonderful2016> apparently java lets you call native c code
L680[13:51:40] <Lizzy> so basically it'll be like a normal component
L681[13:51:47] <coiax> component.sign is returning nil
L682[13:51:50] <coiax> should I restart?
L683[13:51:55] <Lizzy> sign_upgrade
L684[13:51:57] <Lizzy> probably
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L686[13:52:23] <Lizzy> AntheusTmp, what did you break?
L687[13:52:31] <Lizzy> the probably was to my suggestion of the name, not your restarting
L688[13:52:41] <Mimiru> Not enough.. he's here...
L689[13:52:45] <Mimiru> needs to break more.
L690[13:53:02] <AntheusTmp> Happy Thanksgiving gamsx92, Miniru, and SuPeRMiNoR2!
L691[13:53:17] <AntheusTmp> Dear god I suck a typing
L692[13:53:19] <Mimiru> Happy Thanksgiving :P
L693[13:53:27] <coiax> no, it is component.sign
L694[13:53:28] <Mimiru> Hey I look at it as AntiPing :P
L695[13:53:29] <gamax92> suck a typing
L696[13:53:32] <Lizzy> i could be really mean if i decided to abuse a certain znc module i have loaded
L697[13:53:37] <Mimiru> anyway, I'm heading to my aunts
L698[13:53:38] <coiax> I just keep expecting something to happen when I type just that
L699[13:53:49] <coiax> okay, so signs DO have newlines in them
L700[13:53:51] <AntheusTmp> I'm in a car, and don't have an Orc client that works
L701[13:54:03] <gamax92> suck a typing...
L702[13:54:06] <Lizzy> coiax, i guessed that since they have 4 lines for text in vanilla
L703[13:54:08] <coiax> pop quiz: quickest way of stripping newlines from a string
L704[13:54:12] <coiax> yeah, that makes sense
L705[13:54:26] <AntheusTmp> It's pouring down rain, and I've seen 2 flipped cars
L706[13:54:27] <gamax92> :gsub("[\r\n]","")
L707[13:54:27] <Mimiru> Signs actually have 4 lines of NBT, one for each line. :P
L708[13:54:29] <Lizzy> coiax, string.gsub("\n","")
L709[13:54:39] <MrWonderful2016> do you think it would be better to run the c code natively or through something like nested vm
L710[13:54:47] <gamax92> natively never.
L711[13:54:52] <coiax> wait, do I call that on the string itself?
L712[13:55:07] <gamax92> if mine, string_variable:gsub("[\r\n]","")
L713[13:55:12] <coiax> *manualing intensifies*
L714[13:55:12] <Lizzy> ^
L715[13:55:19] <gamax92> if lizzy, strnig.gsub(string_variable,"\n","")
L716[13:55:23] <MrWonderful2016> or jni
L717[13:55:37] <coiax> is that just a stylistic choice
L718[13:55:43] <gamax92> yeah
L719[13:55:44] <coiax> kk
L720[13:55:45] <Lizzy> kinda
L721[13:56:03] <AntheusTmp> Well, I'm off!
L722[13:56:12] <gamax92> it is possible for :gsub and string.gsub, but unless you're having metatable fun, probably not.
L723[13:56:20] <Lizzy> good riddance
L724[13:56:20] <gamax92> ... sentences what are.
L725[13:56:34] <gamax92> s/.gsub/.gsub to be different/
L726[13:56:34] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> it is possible for .gsub to be different and string.gsub, but unless you're having metatable fun, probably not.
L727[13:56:39] <gamax92> sdkfjsdkfs
L728[13:56:50] <MrWonderful2016> why is native generally a bad idea
L729[13:57:01] <gamax92> MrWonderful2016: let me compile my malware
L730[13:57:10] <Lizzy> MrWonderful2016, would you allow random people to run code on your machine?
L731[13:57:15] <MrWonderful2016> ah
L732[13:57:30] <coiax> hurray, my code progresses!
L733[13:57:41] <coiax> apparently os.sleep isn't a thing in the environemtn
L734[13:57:50] <Vexatos> gamax92, metatable fun? Reminds me of Selene >_>
L735[13:58:40] <coiax> how would I wait for an amount of time as a microcontroller?
L736[13:58:52] <Lizzy> coiax, nope, try just doing computer.pullSignal(0.5) occasionally to 'sleep' (though if your script relies on events being captured properly you may want to do it differently
L737[13:59:13] <coiax> :/
L738[13:59:25] <coiax> I just wanna turn the redstone on for a bit
L739[13:59:28] <gamax92> all sleep does is loop and pull events waiting for it's timeout
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L741[14:00:00] <coiax> but yeah, this has taught me a lot about the privilidge that normal code has
L742[14:00:05] <coiax> with all its libraries n shit
L743[14:00:22] <Lizzy> also aww, i lost my eeprom script in it's readable form
L744[14:00:38] <coiax> have you only got the crunched version?
L745[14:00:58] * Inari holds up a sign, written 'fail' on it
L746[14:01:12] * Lizzy throws a soft ball at Inari
L747[14:01:22] <Lizzy> i could probably pull the data off of the eeprom but i don't feel like doing that
L748[14:01:28] * Inari flips sign, now shows the backside written 'lewd' on it
L749[14:01:38] <gamax92> Lizzy is throwing her balls at Inari
L750[14:01:43] <Lizzy> ...
L751[14:02:02] <Inari> gamax92: nice backup
L752[14:02:28] <coiax> what's the game tick, roughly? 20 times a second?
L753[14:02:33] <cloakable> Yup
L754[14:02:45] <gamax92> not roughly, absolutely
L755[14:02:50] <cloakable> Though things can change that
L756[14:02:56] <coiax> so a pullSignal(0.5) should be more than enough to have a redstone pulse
L757[14:02:56] <MrWonderful2016> then cant you sandbox the c code
L758[14:03:15] <gamax92> "<Vexatos> MrWonderful2016, have fun sandboxing C"
L759[14:03:27] <DeanIsaKitty> MrWonderful2016: Yeah you can. But I would suggest you better not.
L760[14:03:31] <MrWonderful2016> ok
L761[14:03:40] <MrWonderful2016> then is running it in the jvm viable
L762[14:04:00] <MrWonderful2016> or would it better idea to run the c code in its own virtual machine
L763[14:04:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, running C code in a Java VM will be kinda hard.
L764[14:04:34] <coiax> everyone needs a summer project
L765[14:04:47] <MrWonderful2016> there is c2j
L766[14:05:04] <coiax> oh, now my favourite game, where is the redstone pulse actually coming from
L767[14:05:43] <coiax> actually, nope, my bad, forgot to set it high
L768[14:06:00] <gamax92> if you use a converter like that, you lose a lot of possibilities for things to do in C
L769[14:06:09] <gamax92> also you still have to sandbox that, java based malware exists
L770[14:06:13] <MrWonderful2016> yeah
L771[14:06:53] <MrWonderful2016> wait, how is that any different from running lua code in java
L772[14:06:55] <coiax> yes, I have created a really crappy wireless redstone microcontroller! :D
L773[14:07:08] <coiax> because lua is in theory more sandboxable?
L774[14:07:20] <coiax> it was a language designed to be embedded, for one thing
L775[14:07:31] <MrWonderful2016> ah
L776[14:07:38] <DeanIsaKitty> MrWonderful2016: One is interpreted, one is compiled
L777[14:07:49] <coiax> you can technically interpret C
L778[14:07:55] <MrWonderful2016> gtg
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L780[14:07:59] <Lizzy> lua is the interpreted one
L781[14:08:02] <DeanIsaKitty> You can technically compile Lua
L782[14:08:03] <gamax92> lua is also compiled ... ish.
L783[14:08:10] <gamax92> not compiled in the sense of C or Java though
L784[14:08:26] <gamax92> it left
L785[14:08:28] <gamax92> rejoice
L786[14:08:32] <Lizzy> \o/
L787[14:08:39] <Lizzy> ooh
L788[14:08:46] <Lizzy> just remembered, SE update today
L789[14:10:30] <coiax> (what's a SE?)
L790[14:10:38] <Lizzy> Space Engineers
L791[14:10:46] <coiax> oh :)
L792[14:10:59] <coiax> I did play that for a bit, but my machine isn't really capable of running it well
L793[14:11:39] <coiax> plus, I can't seem to design a mining ship that bores straight through an asteroid without randomly cutting parts of itself off
L794[14:12:15] <gamax92> "To use this site, you must be running Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or later. "
L795[14:12:23] <gamax92> "Internet Explorer 5"
L796[14:12:25] <gamax92> "5"
L797[14:12:33] <gamax92> Illuminati
L798[14:12:51] <Izaya> not 3?
L799[14:13:42] <gamax92> illuminati pentagon :p
L800[14:14:14] <coiax> I remember in CompSci lectures when the lecturer was late, we'd log onto the projector and run the Acid3 test on IE6
L801[14:14:24] <coiax> these were the days... :)
L802[14:14:43] <Kubuxu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myhYNsRXYgs
L803[14:14:45] <MichiBot> Kubuxu: Cokebacca | length: 9s | Likes: 3433 Dislikes: 46 Views: 29067 | by Johannes Hansen
L804[14:15:10] <gamax92> coiax: I ran demoscene programs instead
L805[14:15:53] <Izaya> coiax: we plug wireless keyboards and mice in
L806[14:16:07] <gamax92> also, stupid fucking wine staging, it wants to remove half my system because of libicu55:i386
L807[14:16:39] <gamax92> so i have no 32bit installed and had to hack some packages to ignore that there is no 32bit wine
L808[14:17:06] <Izaya> dpkg?
L809[14:17:25] <gamax92> my system is dpkg based yes
L810[14:17:49] <Izaya> blame dpkg/apt etc :D
L811[14:17:55] <gamax92> why?
L812[14:18:32] <Izaya> I find that they like to do stupid stuff
L813[14:18:43] <Izaya> like break your system
L814[14:19:13] <gamax92> well no, it refused to do it
L815[14:23:28] <gamax92> yeah now that I look at it, the older version of libxml2 doesn't depend on libicu, and the less older uses libicu52
L816[14:27:24] <scj643> Git for modpack distribution isn't bad
L817[14:27:38] <scj643> Saves even more with the diffs when updating
L818[14:27:48] <gamax92> git is not meant for binary files.
L819[14:27:54] <scj643> I know but it works
L820[14:28:14] <Lizzy> just hope you don't have too many pack updates
L821[14:28:19] <scj643> Nope I don't
L822[14:28:27] <scj643> And if it gets to that point I nuke the repo
L823[14:28:33] <scj643> And reset
L824[14:28:45] <scj643> It makes delploying easy
L825[14:29:00] <scj643> I push then pull on the server you provide Lizzy
L826[14:30:19] <DeanIsaKitty> scj643: Boar. https://bitbucket.org/mats_ekberg/boar/wiki/Home
L827[14:31:02] <scj643> How does that help me?
L828[14:31:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Or SVN. Or CVS. Basically any VCS except maybe Mercurial is better with Binaries than git.
L829[14:31:30] <scj643> .....
L830[14:31:41] <scj643> What issues would I run into using git
L831[14:31:52] <DeanIsaKitty> Its slow as fuck.
L832[14:31:54] <gamax92> ^
L833[14:31:56] <DeanIsaKitty> And blows up
L834[14:31:58] <Lizzy> it taking forever to push/pull/commit
L835[14:31:59] <DeanIsaKitty> in size that is
L836[14:32:05] <scj643> http://git.dannysmc.com/scj643/oc-server
L837[14:32:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Look, Boar is designed SPECIFICALLY for big binaries. There is no disadvantage to it in this usecase.
L838[14:32:47] <scj643> But I don't want people downloading tools that they don't need
L839[14:32:56] <Lizzy> that reminds me, DeanIsaKitty would you mind seeing if there's a set route to 62.4.22.248 on the VPS i gave you? can't remember if i statically set that or not
L840[14:33:38] <scj643> Took 1 second to pull with a couple changes
L841[14:33:41] <DeanIsaKitty> default via 62.4.22.1 dev eth0
L842[14:33:42] <DeanIsaKitty> 62.4.22.1 dev eth0 scope link
L843[14:33:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: ^
L844[14:34:02] <Lizzy> k, so i haven't done that on yours yet
L845[14:34:26] <Lizzy> you can access everything else on the net, except possibly other VPSs on athar and athar itself
L846[14:34:37] <Lizzy> because of the way i do the bridging
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L848[14:34:49] <Lizzy> gonna see if there's a better way of doing it
L849[14:35:52] <Lizzy> the way i did it on one of my test VMs was telling it to get to 62.4.22.248 via an internal interface
L850[14:37:08] <scj643> Whatyou ussing for that?
L851[14:37:14] <Lizzy> ?
L852[14:38:34] <scj643> Bridging?
L853[14:38:43] <Lizzy> eh?
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L855[14:39:10] <scj643> Everything you said before I said What are you using for that?
L856[14:40:19] <Lizzy> basically your VPS gets access to the outside internet by piggybacking on eth0 of Athar, that breaks when you try to access something on Athar itself because it just comes back through to your VPS
L857[14:40:59] <scj643> Oh
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L859[14:41:43] <Lizzy> by breaks i mean if you tried to traceroute to athar you'd just get a !H responds back
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L861[14:42:27] <scj643> Well I'm back to managing my pack
L862[14:42:38] <scj643> I got one user that gets on around midnight EST often
L863[14:42:48] <Temia> so there's apparently a Raspberry Pi Zero now.
L864[14:43:00] <Lizzy> yep, faster than a v2 and smaller
L865[14:43:05] <Lizzy> or so i've heard
L866[14:43:22] <ks156> Hi everybody. Can somebody tell me if it's possible to connect an opencomputer to my lan (192.168.x.x) ?
L867[14:43:22] <Temia> Not faster, it's actually still using the 1's SoC
L868[14:43:33] <Temia> But it's clocked at 1GHz.
L869[14:43:56] <Lizzy> ks156, yes but you'll most likely need to remove the entry in the blacklist in the OC Config
L870[14:44:07] <Temia> For security reasons, that kind of thing is blacklisted by default.
L871[14:44:19] <ds84182> Hellooooo, darlings
L872[14:44:21] <ds84182> My drivers are fixed.
L873[14:44:24] <scj643> Don't want someone accesing stuff behind a firewal
L874[14:44:45] <scj643> Would that be possible to use an OC computer to forward ports outbound?
L875[14:45:03] <ks156> Ok. Where's the OC Config Lizzy ?
L876[14:45:14] <scj643> Config/Open Comptuers
L877[14:45:15] <gamax92> ... this
L878[14:45:19] <gamax92> okay.
L879[14:45:46] <Lizzy> ks156, if you're on mc 1.7.10, OpenComputers.cfg in the Config folder. in MC 1.8 it's in it's own folder IIRC
L880[14:45:51] * Lizzy prods samrg472
L881[14:45:52] <ks156> perfect, thanks scj643
L882[14:45:59] <Lizzy> * Sangar
L883[14:45:59] <scj643> Your welcome
L884[14:46:36] <gamax92> I like how ks156 went for scj's answer which is completely wrong
L885[14:46:43] <samrg472> what
L886[14:46:46] <ks156> I just have to remove 192.168.0.0/16 from the blacklist array I suppose, right ?
L887[14:46:52] <Lizzy> diddn't mean to ping you samrg472
L888[14:46:54] <Temia> yerp
L889[14:46:55] <Lizzy> ks156, yup
L890[14:47:12] <gamax92> Temia: overclocked pi
L891[14:47:13] <gamax92> ?
L892[14:47:39] <Temia> Factory-overclocked, essentially
L893[14:48:34] <Temia> Which I'm mildly surprised by. I thought they started running out of the 1's SoC -- to start dropping stock and yields down further by clock stability is gutsy.
L894[14:49:27] <gamax92> Temia: have you gone on strike?
L895[14:50:26] * Lizzy goes to prepare iDRAC access to Athar just incase she brings the network on it down by accident soon
L896[14:51:10] <Temia> ?
L897[14:51:12] <Temia> ???
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L900[14:51:17] <gamax92> ? ?
L901[14:51:24] <Temia> ?!?!?!
L902[14:51:26] * Temia explodes
L903[14:51:29] <gamax92> !?!!?!
L904[14:51:34] <Lizzy> :O
L905[14:51:39] * Lizzy unexplodes Temia
L906[14:51:49] <Mimiru> ‽‽‽‽
L907[14:52:03] <Lizzy> go away with your fancy question marks
L908[14:52:10] <Mimiru> INTEROBAAAAANG
L909[14:52:10] <gamax92> #define l_mathop(x) (x)
L910[14:52:12] <gamax92> wtf is this
L911[14:52:25] <Lizzy> also DeanIsaKitty whilst i'm at it, want me to update the reverse dns for your VPS?
L912[14:52:43] <ds84182> gamax92: It lets you cast your x to other stuff if you want
L913[14:52:56] <Daiyousei> quality #define
L914[14:53:29] <gamax92> ds84182: I'm trying to patch lua to have fixed point numbers
L915[14:53:32] <gamax92> not going well
L916[14:56:04] <ds84182> gamax92: It's easy
L917[14:56:12] <ds84182> Just replace l_mathop with fixed point stuff
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L919[14:56:37] <Lizzy> Mimiru, if Athar suddenly drops off of PCL/DN, it's not dead as such, just the network not doing what i wanted it to
L920[14:56:53] <gamax92> ds84182: >_> all that does is return the same thing
L921[14:56:58] <ks156> Lizzy is there somewhere a doc that explains how to configure the network? 192.168 is de-blacklisted, but network still unreachable :/
L922[14:56:59] <gamax92> how is that define even useful
L923[14:57:15] <gamax92> l_mathop(potato) -> (potato) WOW I DID SO MUCHS
L924[14:57:16] <ds84182> gamax92: Then, I dunno
L925[14:57:23] <ds84182> Call a fucking function in the define instead
L926[14:57:30] <ds84182> Be glad they LEFT YOU A DEFINE
L927[14:57:33] <Lizzy> did you stop mc, save then start mc back up again?
L928[14:57:38] <gamax92> ds, chill
L929[14:57:45] <scj643> Ok MC is writing a lot of data and I'm playing on a client
L930[14:57:46] <gamax92> chill like that GPU of yours can't
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L932[14:57:55] <ks156> Lizzy: yes
L933[14:57:57] <ds84182> gamax92: Excuse me bitch but it can now
L934[14:58:01] <ds84182> I have fglrx installed
L935[14:58:06] <ds84182> I'm at 52C
L936[14:58:10] <ds84182> And going down
L937[14:58:37] <gamax92> my GPU is cooler
L938[14:58:53] <ds84182> k
L939[14:59:04] <Lizzy> my gpu is currently at 30C
L940[14:59:14] <gamax92> mines at 34C
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L946[15:06:23] <ds84182> gamax92: So, xkcd.com/fonts/xkcd-Regular.otf
L947[15:06:44] <ds84182> I set my font to that
L948[15:06:50] <ds84182> everything is uppercase to me
L949[15:14:30] <gamax92> ds84182: wHaTs wRoNg wItH YoU?
L950[15:14:56] <Inari> at times i wihs i could draw nicely :<
L951[15:15:01] <ds84182> gamax92: Your mother
L952[15:15:14] <gamax92> Inari: draw lewdly instead
L953[15:17:17] <Inari> i cant draw at all
L954[15:17:17] <Inari> xD
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L957[15:34:41] <scj643> I wish I could draw
L958[15:34:51] <scj643> I also wish I had people to play with
L959[15:41:52] <Inari> i wonder how life would be if you orgasmed from toothbrushing
L960[15:42:33] <Temia> only if you have vagina dentata.
L961[15:42:43] <Inari> what?
L962[15:42:52] * Temia ... sees herself to bed before her virus-addled brain can make things worse
L963[15:43:18] <Inari> Temia: that gave me the weirdest though ever
L964[15:43:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia...
L965[15:43:27] <gamax92> Temia
L966[15:43:33] <Temia> Yeees? <3
L967[15:43:37] <Inari> "what if the top row of teeth in your mouth very vaginas, and the bottom rows erect dicks"
L968[15:43:44] <Inari> *were
L969[15:43:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: You are awesome, but awful at the same time
L970[15:44:01] <Temia> haha, I didn't even do anything and I made it worse
L971[15:45:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Now go to bed you handsome devil
L972[15:45:30] <Temia> But I'm not a devil, I'm a cow '^'
L973[15:45:36] <Temia> I mean I would make a cute one for halloween...
L974[15:45:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Probably <.<
L975[15:45:53] <gamax92> void* (*void_func)(void*, void**, int, const void*);
L976[15:45:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Send me a picture and I can confirm :P
L977[15:45:54] <Inari> moo
L978[15:46:02] <Temia> Nobody's drawn devilmoo yet.
L979[15:46:12] <gamax92> yes I have
L980[15:46:31] <Temia> but it would work! Red dye, a little plastic tailspade, trident, and flame bikini top. '3' I would become utterly diabolical
L981[15:46:40] <Temia> you haven't Gamaaax
L982[15:46:44] <Temia> If you have I've never seen it
L983[15:46:50] <gamax92> ehh ... not of that description
L984[15:46:57] <gamax92> so I guess not
L985[15:47:01] <Temia> hah.
L986[15:47:07] * Temia flops on Gamax. zzzmoo.
L987[15:47:28] * Lizzy should draw this weekend
L988[15:47:48] * gamax92 cuddles a moo
L989[15:48:34] <Pwootage> argh, I still hate lua
L990[15:48:41] <lacsap> If I decide to install opencomputers on my minecraft server, do all of the players playing on it needs to have it also installed on their clients?
L991[15:48:44] <Pwootage> Hate's a strong word... dislike
L992[15:48:49] <gamax92> lacsap: everyone needs it
L993[15:49:20] <Pwootage> Any mod which adds blocks must be on all clients (basically)
L994[15:49:49] <Inari> why are cats so scared of cucumbers?
L995[15:49:55] <Inari> answer: they all know melissa
L996[15:50:05] <lacsap> ok thank you both, I don't have much experience with minecraft forge and I couldn't find the info for oc
L997[15:52:53] <Pwootage> I kinda want to write a bytecode JIT D:
L998[15:53:08] <Inari> eejit?
L999[15:53:08] <gamax92> THEN WRITE IT YOU FUCK
L1000[15:54:18] <gamax92> Izaya needs to talk more often
L1001[15:54:53] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Why? He's already at the top of the stats <.<
L1002[15:55:02] <gamax92> no I am
L1003[15:55:10] <gamax92> by 2000
L1004[15:55:13] <Lizzy> heh https://i.imgur.com/d97q8ko.jpg
L1005[15:55:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh, you're right
L1006[15:55:37] <Lizzy> .stats
L1007[15:55:37] <EnderBot2> We have channel stats provided by Liz \o/ http://www.theender.net/stats/oc.html
L1008[15:55:43] <gamax92> \o/
L1009[15:55:46] <Temia> Wow Lizzy
L1010[15:55:49] <Temia> That's even worse than I am
L1011[15:55:55] * Lizzy snickers
L1012[15:55:59] <Temia> bravo.
L1013[15:56:01] <gamax92> I thought Temia was zzzmoo
L1014[15:56:03] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Fuck you, I love you <3 :D
L1015[15:56:11] <Lizzy> Fuck me? okay!
L1016[15:56:13] <Temia> I was awoken by how utterly awful Lizzy's link was
L1017[15:56:14] <Lizzy> :P
L1018[15:56:17] <gamax92> heh
L1019[15:56:34] <Pwootage> But that means I'd be writing a JIT, and that's sort of gross
L1020[15:56:46] <gamax92> it's okay, luajit is vomit
L1021[15:57:05] <Pwootage> (it would be a jit for like pwisa, not lua crap)
L1022[15:58:12] <Inari> Lizzy: as long as you dont make cookies out of it
L1023[15:58:21] <Lizzy> ...
L1024[15:58:38] * Lizzy holds up the "lewder" sign
L1025[15:59:00] <Inari> > https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120216185514AAvCCcp
L1026[15:59:37] * Lizzy pukes
L1027[16:00:36] <Inari> ikr
L1028[16:01:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Hm? Its not like its dangerous or anything.
L1029[16:01:12] <Lizzy> ?
L1030[16:01:30] <DeanIsaKitty> Blood
L1031[16:01:42] <Inari> its kind of.. pretty.. very.. gross
L1032[16:01:44] <DeanIsaKitty> ?
L1033[16:01:52] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: You never worked in ER, did you?
L1034[16:02:00] <Inari> you eat period blood there?
L1035[16:02:09] <gamax92> ... wtf is this conversation
L1036[16:02:10] <gamax92> please no
L1037[16:02:16] <DeanIsaKitty> No, why should we?
L1038[16:02:20] * Inari notes to never go to ER
L1039[16:02:37] <Lizzy> Welcome to #OC's Dark hour, the new 3rd person hour
L1040[16:02:40] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: what are you talking about
L1041[16:03:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: You start to lose disgust from blood when you have seen people that got hit by a train.
L1042[16:03:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, whats left of them anyway
L1043[16:03:36] <Inari> sure, but what ar eyou referring to with disgust of blood
L1044[16:03:44] <DeanIsaKitty> < Inari> its kind of.. pretty.. very.. gross
L1045[16:03:55] <Inari> that was after what you already said
L1046[16:04:02] <Inari> so i mwondering what you're originall talkin about
L1047[16:04:23] <DeanIsaKitty> That I don't understand why people are disgusted by eating blood.
L1048[16:04:33] <Inari> they aren't, usually
L1049[16:04:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Especially in the little amounts that that bitch was talking about
L1050[16:05:07] <Inari> the fact that its menstruation blood is pretty ew to me though :P
L1051[16:05:08] <DeanIsaKitty> You were or I misinterpreted your reaction
L1052[16:05:26] <Lizzy> i'm still reading the answer to that yahoo answers link
L1053[16:05:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Its still blood. Its not really different.
L1054[16:05:37] <Inari> yeah, well, enjoy
L1055[16:05:56] <DeanIsaKitty> It has a bit of other stuff in it as well, but they are not disgusting either
L1056[16:06:02] <Inari> and then reading about sucking on tampons, what
L1057[16:06:30] <Inari> menstruation is unnecessary anyway, pls nature ;-;
L1058[16:07:15] <gamax92> #lua "if (shit and apples )":match("if%s-%b()")
L1059[16:07:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '"if (shit and apples )"'
L1060[16:07:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Not really, sadly.
L1061[16:07:27] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: much really
L1062[16:07:29] <gamax92> #lua )"if (shit and apples) other things"_:match("if%s-%b()")
L1063[16:07:29] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near ')'
L1064[16:07:35] <gamax92> kgjdfg
L1065[16:07:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-evolutionary-benefit-or-purpose-of-having-periods
L1066[16:07:57] <Inari> read that
L1067[16:07:59] <Pwootage> Are there (short of the broken ARM one, and my old not-quite-done one) any actual alternate OC archetectures out there?
L1068[16:07:59] <gamax92> #lua ("if (shit and apples) other things"):match("if%s-%b()")
L1069[16:07:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > if (shit and apples)
L1070[16:08:07] <Inari> basic things learned a) more reasons to never be pregnant
L1071[16:08:09] <gamax92> okay.
L1072[16:08:18] <Inari> b) still no point in the womb having the ability to become pregnant so often
L1073[16:08:21] <gamax92> ... fak the original code already does this.
L1074[16:08:36] * gamax92 panics, doesn't know how to fix.
L1075[16:08:42] <Pwootage> gamax92: ok now i have to ask, what are you doing?
L1076[16:09:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Getting pregnant is nowadays luckly a choice :P
L1077[16:09:09] <gamax92> Pwootage: so pico8 has this shorthand if syntax: if (expression) expression
L1078[16:09:18] <gamax92> which maps to this: if expression then expression end
L1079[16:09:19] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: mostly anyway
L1080[16:09:29] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: and still no reason it has to be active like that when you choose not to
L1081[16:10:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Is evolution a reason to you?
L1082[16:10:13] * Lizzy expels some gas from her behind then flops onto DeanIsaKitty and sleeps
L1083[16:10:16] <gamax92> if you have things like if (expression) and, or if (expression) or, or then, or whatever else you could think of to put after that, it fails
L1084[16:10:26] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: i dont care about evolution
L1085[16:10:29] <Inari> we live in 2015
L1086[16:10:36] <gamax92> my custom lua patcher for this because I'm to lazy to use lpeg or something only does and, or, and then
L1087[16:10:44] <Lizzy> Time is but an illusion
L1088[16:10:50] <Inari> for all i care i want a cybernetic body that doestn suck at everything
L1089[16:11:03] <Pwootage> gamax: ah
L1090[16:11:05] <gamax92> it basically has to be not an operator next to it
L1091[16:11:05] <Inari> nature is good at getting things done, in aterribly hacky way
L1092[16:11:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: The reason you can tell me over IRC that you don't care about evolution is A PRODUCT OF EVOLUTION, do you realize that?
L1093[16:11:17] <gamax92> Pwootage: pico8 is fun btw, you should buy it
L1094[16:11:17] * Lizzy zzz on DeanIsaKitty
L1095[16:11:30] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: so?
L1096[16:11:34] <gamax92> yes it costs money, you can be a cheap shit though and use picolove or abuse the webplayer
L1097[16:11:44] <Pwootage> What is it?
L1098[16:11:45] <Inari> im a product of being pregnant and a product of being a baby, yet i harshly despise both those things XD
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L1100[16:12:02] <Pwootage> I'm willing to spend money if it's good, just never really heard of it, although apparently it involves lua
L1101[16:12:43] <gamax92> if you like working with limited things and trying to push it to a limit, then it's pretty nice, it's also still very capable of making games though
L1102[16:12:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Look, I really think you are a smart person. I don't think I have to explain to you why tinkering with genes is a bad idea.
L1103[16:13:20] * Lizzy makes a mental note to hide her gene research from DeanIsaKitty
L1104[16:13:35] <DeanIsaKitty> And that is basically the only way to get rid of periods alltogether.
L1105[16:13:38] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: it isnt, we just suck at so far xD esp. as we dont understand enough there are unexpected side-effects, etc
L1106[16:13:41] <Inari> hence
L1107[16:13:43] <Inari> cybernetic body
L1108[16:13:43] <Inari> woo
L1109[16:13:58] <gamax92> Pwootage: specs of the engine: 16 color 128x128, 16:16 floating point lua numbers, no standard lua api (custom set), sprite engine and music engine
L1110[16:14:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Do you trust humanity to use that knowledge for good?
L1111[16:14:14] <gamax92> and if you want more, you can peek and poke directory to the screen, music, graphics, maps, etc with lua
L1112[16:14:22] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: i dunno, i dont care, i just want a good body
L1113[16:14:31] <Inari> its gonna happen one way or another anyway
L1114[16:14:36] <Pwootage> gamax: fun
L1115[16:15:25] * Lizzy yawns and then curls up more on DeanIsaKitty's lap
L1116[16:15:51] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: I think its best to agree to disagree here :)
L1117[16:16:20] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: haha :P i just hate a lot of things that are just this way cause "nature"
L1118[16:16:37] <Inari> like our eyes, pain, menstruation, lots of idiotic things that could be done much better nowadays but were necessary when we were a lesser race
L1119[16:16:45] <Inari> or maybe species :P
L1120[16:16:48] <Inari> the less overloaded term
L1121[16:17:03] <DeanIsaKitty> Race is not even correct in that context
L1122[16:17:13] <Inari> species then xD
L1123[16:17:16] * gamax92 gags Inari >_>
L1124[16:17:19] <gamax92> staph
L1125[16:17:25] <Inari> gamax92: ?
L1126[16:17:30] * DeanIsaKitty throws gamax92 into a pool of sulfuric acid
L1127[16:17:35] <DeanIsaKitty> don't touch Inari
L1128[16:17:42] <Inari> gamax92: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/888/789/f39.jpg
L1129[16:17:43] * gamax92 pokes Inari gently
L1130[16:17:53] <ironmountain> Race could be what he meant, though that might be a bit more controversial.
L1131[16:18:03] <Inari> *she
L1132[16:18:15] <ironmountain> Sorry
L1133[16:18:27] <gamax92> "This file was generated by the Retargetable Decompiler"
L1134[16:18:31] <DeanIsaKitty> ironmountain: Race is biologically speaking incorrect in that context. That's what I meant.
L1135[16:18:49] <Inari> basically things like menstruation are that way cause it worked fine in the past, but nowadays it coudl work differently, if we just had enough knowledge
L1136[16:18:54] <gamax92> Pwootage: but yeah, it's lua syntax is also a bit non standard
L1137[16:19:07] <gamax92> it can do things like +=, -=, *=, /=, %=
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L1139[16:19:27] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: and well i expect things to be changeable in the future, hence why i prefer an argument of "why noT?" for "why are people gay?" rahter than "cause they cant change it!"
L1140[16:19:28] <Pwootage> So it has a pre-compiler, then
L1141[16:19:35] <Pwootage> well, compiler I guess
L1142[16:20:12] <DeanIsaKitty> I don't think we'll be able to change sexual orientation anytime near.
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L1144[16:20:13] <gamax92> ehh, it can and does have a modify lua
L1145[16:20:21] <gamax92> modified lua*
L1146[16:20:26] <DeanIsaKitty> We don't even know what causes it.
L1147[16:20:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, not precisely that is.
L1148[16:20:45] <gamax92> like that fixed point 16:16 thing, that's not something that you can just pre-compile
L1149[16:21:17] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: someday we wil
L1150[16:21:19] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, when you say orientation, does that mean what you're attracted to or what you identify as?
L1151[16:21:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: In that specific case I prefer the argument: "Why do you even care" and "Biology. Same thing that made you stupid"
L1152[16:21:35] <gamax92> and (operation)= is a bit harder to do, t/=t/2 maps to t=t/(t/2), and all I've been able to successfully do is t=t/t/2 which is not the same
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L1154[16:21:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: attracted to, in this case. Identification is a whole other beast.
L1155[16:21:49] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: haha :P well i just get annoyed when people go by saying its wrong to discriminate cause you cant change being it or something
L1156[16:22:02] <DeanIsaKitty> But it is true. At least at the moment
L1157[16:22:16] <Inari> sure, but its a bullshit point to argue from
L1158[16:22:17] <DeanIsaKitty> You cant efficiently change your (biological) sex either.
L1159[16:22:24] <DeanIsaKitty> I don't think so
L1160[16:22:39] <Inari> discriminating against something doesnt become right just becasue you can change it
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L1162[16:22:44] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, ah, i don't think we should need to change that. people just need to stop belittling people because of something the read in a book that was written a long time ago
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L1164[16:23:01] <Lizzy> *they read
L1165[16:23:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: So discriminating agaist the willful ignorant is wrong?
L1166[16:23:15] <MajGenRelativity> what
L1167[16:23:17] <Inari> discriminating is always wrong :P
L1168[16:23:26] <MajGenRelativity> willfully ignorant though?
L1169[16:23:32] * MajGenRelativity pulls the ripcord immediately
L1170[16:23:35] <MajGenRelativity> I'm out of this
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L1172[16:23:41] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: You were never in.
L1173[16:24:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Well, depends.
L1174[16:24:08] <Inari> like, take nazis, sure they suck, but well they have a right to their views too
L1175[16:24:24] <DeanIsaKitty> I know a few people that would change their sex without question when given the chance.
L1176[16:24:46] <Inari> not giivng someone a job cause they have red haircolour that you dont like isnt okay because they could dye it black
L1177[16:24:48] <Lizzy> Inari, at least Hitler didn't do any testing on animals
L1178[16:24:51] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Ok, I think I define discrimination different from you.
L1179[16:24:57] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: well you can somewhat do that
L1180[16:25:21] <Inari> Lizzy: well hitler isnt relevant anyway
L1181[16:25:31] <DeanIsaKitty> But given a very strict definition, yes, discrimination is wrong in any case.
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L1183[16:25:42] <Inari> hitler <----------------------------------------------------| current nazis | -----------------------------------> xD
L1184[16:25:57] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzb_p1mRW1M
L1185[16:25:57] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Jimmy Carr Most Offensive Jokes | length: 7m 23s | Likes: 12924 Dislikes: 590 Views: 2665866 | by ccbcaddyman13
L1186[16:26:02] <Inari> "xD" not being part of the diagram
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L1189[16:26:36] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: not sure what you'd call "efficient" int hat matter though @ sex change... something like, drink a potion and wake up as other sex?
L1190[16:26:54] <gamax92> no, sneezing and becoming the opposite gender
L1191[16:26:58] <Inari> lol
L1192[16:27:09] <Inari> dat TLR reference
L1193[16:27:15] <gamax92> :>
L1194[16:27:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Complete sex change with restoration of all functionality. I.e. being able to get pregnant after a m->f change and being able to produce living sperm after a f->m change
L1195[16:27:43] <Inari> gamax92: if you sniff some pepper right at orgasm you'll hav ea fun experience :P
L1196[16:27:52] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: ah
L1197[16:27:58] <Inari> well yeah we're a bit aways away from that
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L1199[16:28:13] <Alissa> only a tad bit.
L1200[16:28:15] <Inari> curiously, it should even be kind of possible, if you could instruct the body to
L1201[16:28:22] <Alissa> last i checked there were synthetically grown genitalia.
L1202[16:28:27] <gamax92> "YOU GOTTA HACK THE DNA!"
L1203[16:28:29] <Inari> and give the body new puripotent cells :P
L1204[16:28:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Theoretically yes. Practically, there's a whole heap of problems to be solved
L1205[16:28:59] <Inari> hence "if you could"
L1206[16:29:20] <Inari> and "should" ;D
L1207[16:29:25] <Inari> the future will be fun
L1208[16:29:26] <Inari> \o/
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L1210[16:29:37] <DeanIsaKitty> Not the future we'll live in.
L1211[16:29:43] <Inari> so pessimistic :P
L1212[16:29:56] <gamax92> no no, Dean is right
L1213[16:29:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Either that or realisitc ;)
L1214[16:30:00] <gamax92> Dean's going to kill you and then suicide
L1215[16:30:04] <Inari> haha
L1216[16:30:18] * Inari fondles Lizzy's lemons meanwhile
L1217[16:30:32] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: No, not really.
L1218[16:30:33] * Lizzy sleepy nyahs
L1219[16:30:50] <Inari> eh, i cling to advancement of technology, cryo-stuff, and/or virtual reality :P
L1220[16:31:23] <gamax92> virtual reality, where you could pretend you're an ice cube if you so desire.
L1221[16:31:26] <Inari> once we get a way to inrecase yourl lifespan by 2 years we'll improve it ot be 6 years, then i'Tll be 12 and then 20, and in those 20 years we'll find some better way to do the whole thing which gives 50 years
L1222[16:31:26] <Inari> etc
L1223[16:31:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Sadly its not that easy
L1224[16:32:07] <Inari> *shrug* its possible* points to 1995*
L1225[16:32:32] <DeanIsaKitty> We already increased our lifespan from ~20 to ~90 years. But medicine believes we won't get much over 100 years simply how our body works.
L1226[16:32:47] <Inari> without doing different things, etc :3
L1227[16:32:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Unless we can get completely rid of cancer. Then yes
L1228[16:32:51] <primetoxinz> any way to set term font size?
L1229[16:32:57] <Inari> cancer sucks
L1230[16:33:04] <Inari> gimme nanomachines D:
L1231[16:33:07] <gamax92> primetoxinz: decrease the resolution
L1232[16:33:20] <primetoxinz> awww, that's the only way?
L1233[16:33:22] <gamax92> yep.
L1234[16:33:33] * Lizzy wonders if transplanting organs other than hearts and lungs will ever become easy
L1235[16:33:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: When we would be able to not ever get cancer humans will not die a death of high age.
L1236[16:33:35] <primetoxinz> guess I'll live with it
L1237[16:33:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Yeah
L1238[16:33:49] <gamax92> it's the same as CC but vice versa. in CC you can change the font size but you get a smaller resolution
L1239[16:33:54] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: ?
L1240[16:33:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: It's at its hardest pretty much.
L1241[16:34:01] <gamax92> and in OC you decrease the resolution and get a larger font
L1242[16:34:11] <DeanIsaKitty> From now on it'll only become less complicated
L1243[16:34:21] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, indeed
L1244[16:34:33] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: sounds as though you'Re suggesting everyone who dies of old age actually dies of cancer
L1245[16:35:03] * Lizzy smacks Inari off of her then snuggles up with DeanIsaKitty and falls asleep for realz this time
L1246[16:35:09] <Inari> :<
L1247[16:35:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: No I am not.
L1248[16:35:33] * Inari makes a lewd-sounding noise as she is smacked, due to still being gagged
L1249[16:35:36] * Inari spits the gag back at gamax
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L1251[16:35:51] <gamax92> there's a decompiler called "the Retargetable Decompiler"
L1252[16:35:54] <Inari> un way tii vired
L1253[16:35:58] <Inari> *im way too bored
L1254[16:36:08] <gamax92> it works okay, though the output is kinda carpy at time
L1255[16:36:20] * Inari shakes DeanIsaKitty
L1256[16:36:22] <Inari> gimme good tech
L1257[16:36:23] <Inari> :<
L1258[16:36:23] <gamax92> every variable name is just v## and every global is g##
L1259[16:36:37] <Inari> cant some alien race drop by and take me in? D:
L1260[16:37:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Well, the short answer is that there is a (theoretically) feasible way of not growing old. It has the disadvantage of making our whole body a huge tumor.
L1261[16:37:53] <Inari> haha
L1262[16:37:56] <Inari> neat
L1263[16:37:56] <gamax92> welp.
L1264[16:37:57] <DeanIsaKitty> There is a species that does not get cancer. Biologically. It simply can't. And it happens to have this ability to not grow old. And it literally lives for ever.
L1265[16:38:07] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/mLMnPtE.jpg
L1266[16:38:10] <gamax92> no thanks
L1267[16:38:21] <DeanIsaKitty> If you manage to transfer that to humans they too will not die.
L1268[16:38:25] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: how does it not get cancer?
L1269[16:38:38] <ds84182> Tartigrade
L1270[16:39:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: The Biology behind that is way above anything I know. Sorry, I can't explain :)
L1271[16:39:26] <Inari> ah
L1272[16:39:40] <Inari> basically, nano machines would solve all our issues \o/
L1273[16:39:42] <Inari> lets work on those
L1274[16:39:47] <Pwootage> Well I'm going to actually work on a pwix architecture for OC, finally, I think...
L1275[16:39:59] <Inari> though we'Re making some small stepos in cancer stuff at least
L1276[16:41:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: You should probably study medicine and beat cancer once and for all ;)
L1277[16:42:12] <Inari> i want to study too much stuff :P
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L1279[16:43:56] <Inari> physics, nuclear physics, quantum physics, japanese, korean, electricity, nanoelectronics, (/nanomaterials? if thats a thing to study xD), space, technology, biotechnology, etc
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L1281[16:44:29] <DeanIsaKitty> physics, nuclear and quantum is one degree
L1282[16:44:32] <gamax92> Inari: japanese.
L1283[16:44:42] <Inari> possibly :P dunno how they're spearate dinternally
L1284[16:44:49] <DeanIsaKitty> May I ask why you want to *study* korean and japanese?
L1285[16:44:54] <Inari> basically eveything sans chemistry
L1286[16:45:03] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: in that case its more like "learn" haha
L1287[16:45:19] <Inari> [23:51:52] *Evey* I'm sorry, but I'm away (Sleeping with Ender in his hammock) <- heh
L1288[16:45:25] <DeanIsaKitty> You're in Germany, correct?
L1289[16:45:56] <Inari> ya
L1290[16:45:59] <gamax92> inari is a german? o.o
L1291[16:46:05] <Inari> gamax92: ya?
L1292[16:46:56] <DeanIsaKitty> "Luft- & Raumfahrt" could be interesting to you. Its a lot of physics, but less quantum than otherwise. But its a pretty crazy engineering degree.
L1293[16:47:11] <Inari> i basically just want to know everything about the universe :P
L1294[16:47:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Its called slightly different from university to university, so yeah
L1295[16:47:31] <DeanIsaKitty> That would be Astrophysics then
L1296[16:47:35] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: the main issue with studying al lthat is a) im lazy and b) it woudl take liek 30 years
L1297[16:47:46] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: the universe meaning, /the universe/
L1298[16:47:58] <Inari> all forces, quantum whatever, everything
L1299[16:48:22] <DeanIsaKitty> As I said. Thats Astrophysics.
L1300[16:48:39] <Inari> im not sure that has much to do with that but lets look i tup
L1301[16:49:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: You can believe me. Astrophysics is everything about the Universe including Quantum physics.
L1302[16:49:14] <Inari> well sure but idont carea bout the actual universe very much
L1303[16:49:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Now you're contradicting yourself
L1304[16:49:37] <Inari> haha
L1305[16:49:55] <Inari> i dont care about planets or heavenly bodies very much :P i mean more like, the "fabric of the world", theory of everything
L1306[16:49:56] <Inari> etc
L1307[16:50:29] <Inari> unless your suggestion wasnt "go study that because universe" and more like "go study that cause it has everything in it"
L1308[16:51:06] <Inari> not that we know very much about the fabric of the world, so studying that wouldnt necessarily help much in that quest even
L1309[16:51:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Astrophysics includes the very start of the universe, the very end of the universe and absolutely everything in between. It's just not too detailed.
L1310[16:51:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: We know enough
L1311[16:51:28] <Inari> we know like nothing
L1312[16:51:37] <DeanIsaKitty> We don't know what we don't know.
L1313[16:51:42] <DeanIsaKitty> But we know a hell of a lot.
L1314[16:51:46] <Inari> we're not even sure the elementary particles are elementary
L1315[16:52:04] <DeanIsaKitty> We don't know if the concept of particles is valid :P
L1316[16:52:09] <DeanIsaKitty> But lets not go there xD
L1317[16:52:10] <Inari> that too :P
L1318[16:52:20] <DeanIsaKitty> You might want to study philisophy then :P
L1319[16:52:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Altough I really would love to see more women in science & engineering
L1320[16:52:54] <Inari> anyway, when i say "everything about universe" i mean, i want to know, how /everything/ wokrs in /every detail/ at /every level/ and be able to use that knowledge to build/research things
L1321[16:53:24] <Inari> hence why theory of everything i guess
L1322[16:53:24] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Do you know how much knowledge is generated per day?
L1323[16:53:35] <Inari> nope
L1324[16:54:10] <Inari> not enough :p since we still dont know anything
L1325[16:54:22] <Inari> heck, we just figured out theres a particle that was missed 85 years ago apparently
L1326[16:54:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Something like a few houndred thousand books per day. You will never know everything.
L1327[16:54:49] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: sure, but i still want to :P primarily cause i have a lovehate with current technology
L1328[16:54:57] <Inari> i love technology, but hate how primitive ours is
L1329[16:55:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Thats a strange thing to say given that you can't possible tell how primitive it is
L1330[16:56:03] <Inari> besides, i imagine it could be a lot like assembly, if you know assembly you can figure out how windows works, it isnt ideal and would take a long time, and such but you can do :P
L1331[16:56:16] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: its primitive in what it can do
L1332[16:56:28] <DeanIsaKitty> In comparison to?
L1333[16:56:39] <Inari> to what i want i to be able to do
L1334[16:56:49] <gamax92> transform
L1335[16:56:53] <Inari> it cant even beat cancer :<
L1336[16:57:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, sorry to tell you but the world does not listen to what YOU want.
L1337[16:57:10] <Inari> no micromachines, no space elevator, heck we need way too much effrot to just get a drone to mars
L1338[16:57:21] <Inari> *rover
L1339[16:57:33] <DeanIsaKitty> The effort would be the same regardless. Physics and stuff
L1340[16:57:36] <Inari> i hope EM drive turns out true though
L1341[16:57:44] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: somewhat
L1342[16:57:44] <DeanIsaKitty> ?
L1343[16:58:09] <Inari> if you have high-powered engines wiht easily availabel fuel and good enough materials you could do it a lot easier, see: computers today
L1344[16:58:21] <Inari> noone cares about memory anymore, cause its cheap, and quicker/easier to just waste it
L1345[16:58:44] <DeanIsaKitty> The law of conservation of energy will still apply, no matter what fuel you use.
L1346[16:58:47] <gamax92> mmm, memory
L1347[16:58:55] <gamax92> "<Chrome> om nom nom"
L1348[16:59:04] <Inari> sure, but there could be an easy way to get lots of energy
L1349[16:59:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Also, EM drive? You mean the thing that "pushes" against the
L1350[16:59:11] <DeanIsaKitty> "quantum vacuum">
L1351[16:59:15] <DeanIsaKitty> *?
L1352[16:59:20] <Inari> dunno what it does
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L1354[16:59:25] <Inari> it supposedly genrate thrust wihtout emission
L1355[16:59:29] <Inari> hence it could run on solars
L1356[16:59:59] <Inari> which would be great because a) we learn new things and b) its great for space travel
L1357[17:00:12] <DeanIsaKitty> EM Thursters means Electromagnetic thruster. Its very much reality today. Called "ion drive"
L1358[17:00:21] <Inari> no
L1359[17:00:27] <Inari> ion drives have meission :P
L1360[17:00:29] <Inari> this is different
L1361[17:00:39] <Inari> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_resonant_cavity_thruster
L1362[17:00:47] <DeanIsaKitty> radio frequency resonant cavity thruster
L1363[17:00:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah
L1364[17:00:56] <DeanIsaKitty> NOT "EM Drive"
L1365[17:01:13] <DeanIsaKitty> But RFRCT is hard to say
L1366[17:01:18] <Inari> its usually called em drive in media news :P
L1367[17:01:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah. Thats pretty much exactly why I hate when people call it that
L1368[17:01:46] <Inari> also EmDrive is the thing that nasa is testing atm apparently
L1369[17:01:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Just, like "Hacker
L1370[17:01:50] <DeanIsaKitty> "
L1371[17:02:08] <Inari> well emdrive is a specific name
L1372[17:02:14] <Inari> its like saying this engine is called "blublub"
L1373[17:02:24] <Inari> the general temr of the engine would be an ion drive for example
L1374[17:02:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Also called Cannae drive. You know, just because the Nasa is testing something.
L1375[17:02:29] <Inari> but it still has its specific label
L1376[17:02:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Google "tested" teleportation.
L1377[17:02:43] <Inari> cannae drive is a different design
L1378[17:03:40] <Inari> well so far its looking good for EM Drive
L1379[17:03:43] <Inari> hope its true :3
L1380[17:03:56] <DeanIsaKitty> You know...
L1381[17:04:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Do you want me to destroy your dreams or not?
L1382[17:04:15] <Inari> with what? xD
L1383[17:04:22] <DeanIsaKitty> The fucking reality.
L1384[17:04:27] <Inari> which is?
L1385[17:04:38] <DeanIsaKitty> The "EmDrive"
L1386[17:04:50] <Inari> well unless you have new info the reality is that it could work apparently
L1387[17:05:53] <DeanIsaKitty> No, not how the media portrais it.
L1388[17:06:02] <Inari> in what way
L1389[17:07:42] <DeanIsaKitty> a) We have no idea what exactly is happending -> Everybody that says "It might just work" is useless. b) The laws of physics still apply. No matter what.
L1390[17:08:49] <Inari> a) sure, thats why it would be exciting to have it work :P new physics, and wlel they do measure a thrust that they cant explain where it comes from, so for all we know so far its working b) the laws of the universe always apply, the laws of physics are made by humans and falsible
L1391[17:09:00] <Inari> the real test would be to just strap it to a satellite and see
L1392[17:09:06] <Inari> but apparenlty thats pretty pricey
L1393[17:09:31] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm not gonna argue with you, I simply don't have the energy for that at the moment.
L1394[17:10:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Believe what you want to believe, but don't expect people to jump on the bandwagon just because somebody says its moving.
L1395[17:10:17] <Inari> its not much to argue really, nasa is testing it, they still measure anamoulous thrust signals even while trying to factor out all possible errors. it either works or it doesnt, if it works, then hey, new physics, or new ways to apply old physics, good. if it doestn, well it was a nice hope at least
L1396[17:10:34] <Inari> wow i buthcered that word xD
L1397[17:10:41] <Inari> *anomalous :P
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L1400[17:30:52] <Izaya> successfully put lines all over my document
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L1404[17:48:47] <CompanionCube> Izaya, ohey
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L1407[17:59:52] <Inari> Izaya: as long as they arent white, stringy lines
L1408[18:00:27] <gamax92> Inari: string cheese
L1409[18:00:44] <Inari> error: variable cheese of type string not initialized
L1410[18:01:39] <gamax92> :c
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L1412[18:04:34] <gamax92> uhh
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L1423[20:36:15] <Rorax> when a micro controller complains about failing to load the bios. "then expected near 24 found = "
L1424[20:36:20] <Rorax> whats that normally mean?
L1425[20:36:34] <Rorax> I ran into this problem before but can't remember the solution >.>
L1426[20:43:18] <Rorax> "failed loading bios: bios:24: 'then' expected near ="
L1427[20:43:22] <Rorax> specifically
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L1429[20:52:30] <ds84182> Rorax: Are you declaring a variable named "if"?
L1430[20:52:51] <Rorax> pretty sure I'm not, lemme review
L1431[20:53:11] <ds84182> #lua if b = 3 then end
L1432[20:53:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: 'then' expected near '='
L1433[20:53:19] <ds84182> Yeah, you forgot to do double ==
L1434[20:53:31] <Rorax> hot damn thanks
L1435[20:53:40] <ds84182> Anytime :P
L1436[20:54:10] <Rorax> not sure how I missed that but I'm glad you did ;)
L1437[20:55:01] <Rorax> n't * :P
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L1444[22:56:33] <_habnabit> oh jeez robots interact really strangely with thermal expansion ducts
L1445[22:56:54] <_habnabit> whenever they go adjacent to an itemduct, it makes a connection as if it was anything else with an inventory
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L1449[23:26:15] <Rorax> thats because robots are not entities like a zombie or what have you they are a tile entity with an inventory and so the ducts understand that :P
L1450[23:26:59] <Rorax> anyhoo I have found something so bizzare with greg machines and transposers that I swear black and blue was not happening before
L1451[23:27:04] <Rorax> maybe a server thing?
L1452[23:27:08] <Rorax> anyway
L1453[23:27:34] <Rorax> best way to describe this is to give some context about a chemical reactor machine
L1454[23:27:51] <Rorax> it has 5 slots
L1455[23:28:08] <Rorax> two item input (known as 5 and 6)
L1456[23:28:19] <Rorax> two liquid input slots (dunno the numbers)
L1457[23:28:25] <Rorax> and one item output slot (7)
L1458[23:28:35] <Rorax> so heres the problems
L1459[23:29:12] <Rorax> if I were to say, move an item from slot six into slot 5 of the reactor it should work. But it doesn't. sorta
L1460[23:29:31] <Rorax> if the slot is empty. it won't work. as if slot 5 doesn't exist (false)
L1461[23:30:00] <Rorax> if slot 5 has an item in it already, of the same type that the transposer is trying to move
L1462[23:30:03] <Rorax> suddenly it works
L1463[23:31:15] <Rorax> This behavior wasn't occuring in single player
L1464[23:33:16] <Rorax> example. I try to move a hydrogen cell from a fluid canner (slot 6 output) to the left input slot of the chemical reactor (slot 5 input) AND slot 5 is empty: false
L1465[23:34:05] <Rorax> I try to move a hydrogen cell from a fluid canner (slot 6 output) to the left input slot of the chemical reactor (slot 5 input) AND slot 5 has a hydrogen cell in it: true
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