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L144[01:48:49] <SnowDapples> pipes
L145[01:48:50] <SnowDapples> \o/
L146[01:56:04] <vifino> papès
L147[01:57:20] <Skye|Tired> The Internet
is dying.
L148[01:57:43] <Izaya> we need to build a
new one
L149[01:57:58] <Izaya> with 'outdated'
hardware and better tech
L150[01:58:05] <Izaya> and no
javascript
L151[01:58:51] <Skye|Tired> IPv6
L152[01:58:57] <Skye|Tired> And Lua
L153[01:59:14] <Izaya> nah, Lua isn't fast
enough for infrastructure
L154[01:59:39] <Izaya> oh
L155[01:59:42] <Izaya> as clientside
L156[01:59:45] <Izaya> I support
this.
L157[02:01:00] <Skye|Tired> Heh
L158[02:01:24] <Skye|Tired> Is it possible
to make Lua fast enough for infrastructure?
L159[02:04:32] <Izaya> probably not
L160[02:04:38] <Izaya> maybe for outer
routers
L161[02:07:03] <vifino> Lua is fast.
L162[02:07:08] <vifino> For an interpreted
language, that is.
L163[02:07:24] <vifino> With LuaJIT you
give a few languages quite a challange.
L164[02:07:45] <Izaya> is it faster than
java?
L165[02:07:52] <vifino> lol
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L171[02:29:05] *
vifino wonders when Elizabeth is gonna wake up...
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L173[02:29:45] <Izaya> yay
L174[02:29:48] <Izaya> my cisco
boots
L175[02:29:54] <Izaya> it's not on my LAN
though
L176[02:30:12] <Skye|Tired> I need to go
now. ...
L177[02:34:25] <Izaya> vifino, got any
idea how to reset a cisco without any connection to it, serial or
network?
L178[02:36:08] <vifino> uuuuuh.
L179[02:36:23] <vifino> Well, you'd need
the serial.
L180[02:36:30] <Izaya> fuck
L181[02:36:43] <vifino> Or you open it,
get a flash programmer, set some values and stuff.
L182[02:36:57] <Izaya> that sounds even
less practical
L183[02:37:08] <vifino> But if you don't
have a cisco console cable, I don't think you have a flash
programmer.
L184[02:37:19] <vifino> Izaya: They are
made so that doesn't happen.
L185[02:37:29] <Izaya> like if I
wanted
L186[02:37:38] <Izaya> I could wire up a
cable
L187[02:37:45] <Izaya> but I don't need
another fire hazard in this room
L188[02:38:29] <vifino> I'm guessing you
don't have the enable password.
L189[02:38:39] <Izaya> I found out how to
reset that though.
L190[02:38:47] <Izaya> hold MODE while it
powers on
L191[02:38:50] <Izaya> hopefully
L192[02:38:55] <vifino> You can't really
connect to it through the lan ports, if you reset it, you still
need a serial.
L193[02:39:15] <Izaya> I can wait till
tomorrow then I guess
L194[02:39:17] <vifino> Izaya: yeah, hold
mode for 3 secs I think.
L195[02:39:42] <Izaya> maybe I'll try the
Linksys next
L196[02:39:58] <vifino> managed?
L197[02:40:04] <vifino> model no?
L198[02:40:24] <Izaya> '24-port 10/100 +
4-port gigabit with WebView'
L199[02:40:32] <vifino> That uh
L200[02:40:33] <Izaya> SRW224G4
L201[02:40:37] <vifino> tells me
nothing.
L202[02:41:44] <vifino> Izaya: Linksys
one, not the cisco.
L203[02:42:03] <Izaya> SRW224G4
L205[02:46:00] <vifino> They are actually
cisco.
L206[02:46:02] <Izaya> that's the
one
L207[02:46:54] <Skye|Tired> vifino, aren't
linksys and Cisco the same company?
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L209[02:47:04] <vifino> Skye|Tired:
til
L210[02:48:03] <Skye|Tired> I think
Linksys are the more consumer oriented stuff if I recall
correctly.
L211[02:48:05] <vifino> Thought linksys
was somehow related to belklin.
L212[02:48:22] <vifino> I don't
know.
L213[02:48:24] <Skye|Tired> Wot
L214[02:48:25] <vifino> *belkin
L215[02:48:50] <Skye|Tired> I really hope
you are completely mistaken there! :P
L216[02:49:04] <vifino> The Linksys
company was founded in 1988. It is currently owned by Belkin, who
bought it from Cisco,
L217[02:49:20] <vifino> TIL.
L218[02:49:40] <vifino> I only like one
product series from linksys.
L219[02:49:40] <Skye|Tired> Oh God.
L220[02:49:44] <vifino> The WRT series
routers.
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L222[02:50:17] <Skye|Tired> So linksys was
Cisco, probably at the time Izaya's switch was made
L223[02:53:18] <vifino> By the way, what
do you guys think of the new macbook? I looked at one at our
electronics store with my mom, mainly because if the touchpad, it
interests me. They are way too underpowered though.
L224[02:53:39] <vifino> I mean, what, 2k€
for a celery?
L225[02:53:58] <vifino> Jeeez, could at
least put a skylake i3 in there or something.
L226[02:54:44] <vifino> I kinda like the
idea of only having one port though.
L227[02:54:59] <vifino> You could easily
waterproof it, theoretically.
L228[02:55:18] <vifino> I mean, if the
keyboard and screen hold up.
L229[02:56:34] <vifino> If only the
chromebook pixel 2 would be cheaper.
L230[02:56:41] <vifino> It is darn
shiny.
L231[02:59:46] <Izaya> wait
L232[02:59:50] <Izaya> the new macbook has
a celery?
L233[02:59:53] <Izaya>
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
L234[03:00:03] <vifino> Yeah.
L235[03:00:05] <Izaya> and 2k eur = 4k AUD
or so
L236[03:00:10] <Izaya> IIRC
L237[03:00:14] <vifino> well, its not that
much
L238[03:00:19] <vifino> but its half of
that for sure.
L239[03:02:47] <vifino> Izaya: Saw the
pixel 2?
L240[03:02:50] <vifino> It is
awesome.
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L244[03:06:56] <Izaya> ehh
L245[03:07:07] <Izaya> I dunno about their
claims of 'most beautiful'
L246[03:07:17] <Izaya> but they say that
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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L248[03:14:34] <vifino> Izaya: Uh, at
least the display is not.
L249[03:14:42] <vifino> I mean, it is
objectively good.
L250[03:14:56] <Izaya> the display is
nice
L251[03:15:00] <vifino> High pixel count,
good color reproduction.
L252[03:15:09] <Izaya> but the laptop
itself
L253[03:16:29] <vifino> Eh, I like
it.
L254[03:16:35] <vifino> But yeah, that is
opinion.
L255[03:16:38] <vifino> Some like it, some
don't.
L256[03:16:51] <vifino> But it got usb
type c, woo.
L257[03:17:46] <Izaya> I personally like
the ThinkPad design
L258[03:18:09] <Izaya> functional, simple,
and probably rather solid
L259[03:18:53] <vifino> You can say the
same thing about the pixel.
L260[03:19:16] <Izaya> ehhh
L261[03:19:21] <Izaya> it doesn't look all
that solid
L262[03:19:42] <Izaya> but it is rather
functional-looking and it only has like 4 ports, right?
L263[03:20:35] <vifino> It's aliminium all
over, solid state inside, it is solid.
L264[03:20:45] <vifino> Yeah, 4 usb
ports.
L265[03:20:50] <vifino> Count an audio
jack too.
L266[03:21:02] <vifino> ... I think it has
one.
L267[03:21:06] *
vifino shrugs
L268[03:22:00] <Izaya> I also dislike the
colour, but I guess you could paint it
L269[03:22:08] *
vifino facepalms
L270[03:22:50] <Izaya> I wonder how the
Retro ThinkPad is going
L271[03:23:24] <SnowDapples> I like my
Thinkpad.
L272[03:24:45] <vifino> No wonder I
haven't heard anything from Elizabeth yet, my phone was in another
room .-.
L273[03:28:12] <Izaya> ._. so I found out
why it won't boot
L274[03:28:28] <Izaya> yaboot can't
btrfs
L275[03:41:01] <vifino> Whats
yaboot?
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L277[03:42:15] <Izaya> openfirmware boot
for linux
L278[03:43:18] *
Elizabeth kisses vifino
L279[03:43:31] <vifino> :D You're
awake!
L280[03:43:36] *
vifino kisses Elizabeth back
L281[03:43:45] <Elizabeth> yep, and in
lessons so replies will be slightly delayed
L282[03:44:18] <vifino> okies
L283[03:44:24] <Elizabeth> what is still
using my nvidia gpu....
L284[03:44:47] <Elizabeth> i left it as
the default cause minecraft wont use it otherwise so now everything
has started using it
L285[03:45:07] <Elizabeth> also Izaya, is
there not a reset button on the switch?
L288[03:47:58] <Izaya> Elizabeth, Cisco
has a MODE button to reset the password, but no actual way to reset
the IP configuration
L289[03:48:08] <Izaya> Linksys also needs
serial to reset
L290[03:48:13] <Elizabeth> :/
L291[03:48:23] <Izaya> so I'll wait until
tomorrow
L292[03:48:27] <Inari> lizzster :D
L293[03:48:33] <Izaya> when I can obtain a
cisco serial cable
L294[03:48:55] <Elizabeth> well, if you
can reset the password and get into the ios prompt, just do erase
start"
L295[03:49:02] <Elizabeth> well, if you
can reset the password and get into the ios prompt, just do
"erase start" *
L296[03:49:12] <Elizabeth> and that should
completely reset it
L297[03:49:52] <Izaya> yeah
L298[03:49:56] <Elizabeth> also yay,
learning about routing concepts
L299[03:51:41] <Izaya> Cisco routers
are... MIPS?
L300[03:52:03] <Izaya> or rather
networking gear
L301[03:52:28] <Elizabeth> MIPS? I am
unfamiliar with that acronym
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L303[03:55:10] <Izaya> it's a processor
architecture
L304[03:58:19] <Inari> , million
instructions per second (MIPS),
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L306[04:00:59] <Elizabeth> yeah,
networking gear 'cpus' are more like standard gpus than cpus in
terms of the ammount of cores and power per core
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L311[04:28:28] <Elizabeth> heh, i'm using
my cpu so little, that it's clocked down to 0.8GHz
L312[04:29:37] <vifino> Izaya: You...
installed linux on that old mac?
L313[04:29:38] <vifino> wow.
L314[04:29:43] <vifino> Impressive.
L315[04:30:05] <Izaya> what did you think
I'd do with it?
L316[04:30:26] <vifino> No, I was just
thinking that it would probably not work well because of the
drivers.
L317[04:31:29] <Izaya> well I don't have
any video on it yet
L318[04:31:33] <Izaya> but I can ssh
in
L319[04:31:53] <vifino> ah, I thought that
would be on the machine.
L320[04:32:05] <vifino> Too bad, would
have been very awesome.
L321[04:32:51] <Izaya> I'm working on
it
L322[04:32:53] <Izaya> I think
L323[04:32:54] <Izaya> that
L324[04:32:59] <Izaya> I need to work on
my uh
L325[04:33:00] <Izaya> xorg.conf
L326[04:33:01] <Izaya> q_q
L327[04:34:15] <vifino> Does the graphics
card even have drivers?
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L329[04:42:24] <Izaya> it sorta does
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L331[04:42:34] <Izaya> you need to specify
video driver
L332[04:54:35] <Izaya> vifino, I do
believe that the only acceptable interface for this machine would
be a *STEP
L333[04:55:04] <vifino> Hahaha.
L334[04:55:17] <vifino> 256mb ram,
eh?
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L336[04:55:43] <Izaya> yeah
L337[04:55:52] <Izaya> this model, stock,
has 128M
L338[04:58:57] <vifino> Perfect to run a
heavyweight desktop environment on.
L339[04:59:06] <vifino> Without swap that
is, that would ruin the fun.
L340[05:00:01] <Izaya> "Setting up
sane-utils" Where we're going, we don't need sanity.
L341[05:00:32] <vifino> Izaya: You should
run gentoo on that thing and compile everything with -Os, upxing
everything xD
L342[05:00:45] <Izaya> lemme get debian
booting properly first
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L348[05:06:54] <Izaya> welp no
display
L349[05:07:02] <Izaya> but I can still
boot OS X
L350[05:07:47] <Forecaster> is there an
easy way to read lines of a file?
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L352[05:08:20] <Izaya> Forecaster, open
it, read *l I think
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L357[05:15:05] <Izaya> VIDEO
L358[05:16:44] <Izaya> well, console
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L367[05:27:06] <Noob> Ugh what is Drone
Docking Upgrade in Computronics?
L368[05:28:54] <Elizabeth> it allows
drones to dock with BC pipes
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L370[05:29:22] <Noob> And why would want
drone to dock with BC pipes?
L371[05:30:02] <Crucru> Noob: because they
can :>
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L373[05:30:23] <Elizabeth> item transfer,
power ups, ask vexatos when he shows up
L374[05:31:20] <Noob> -.- what is it with
never populating wiki of either of OC projects ._.
L375[05:32:20] <Elizabeth> ?
L376[05:34:32] <Noob> Elizabeth: I mean,
documentation of OC and Computronics, as well as few other addons
is quite poor done. For example I wouldn't have to bother vex with
questions "wtf is docking upgrade" if he (or others) had
added a very short wiki page that describes wtf is that upgrade and
what is it useful for lol
L377[05:35:12] <SnowDapples> docking
upgrade
L378[05:35:13] <SnowDapples> I:
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L380[05:35:43] <Noob> SnowDapples: so tell
me what is it for then? Just docking, no other purpose? :/
L381[05:35:49] <vifino> It be makin'
dockin' a thing, dawg!
L383[05:36:09] <Noob> lol
L384[05:36:41] <SnowDapples> Well, I
suppose it is what Elizabeth mentioned.
L385[05:36:53] <SnowDapples> Makes sense,
since drones are similar to BC robots.
L386[05:36:54] <Noob> Turtle: that's what
im talking about. Even a few lines would be helpful
L387[05:37:03] <Turtle> Doesn´t the ingame
thingy provide info though
L388[05:37:05] <Turtle> pretty sure it
does
L389[05:37:27] <SnowDapples> not everyone
is ingame all the time to look trough that.
L391[05:38:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Smartest
species on this planet. Pff.
L392[05:38:48] <SnowDapples> Ah, that's
from Computronics
L393[05:39:08] <Turtle> Yes, I suggest you
get waila or something, it´s great, and shows from which mod a
block is
L394[05:39:24] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: I love
when people automatically assume that everyone loves to read things
ingame always, and only ingame, and never need to give other people
the page to read about it -.-
L395[05:39:24] <DeanIsaKitty> SnowDapples:
We were talking about the computronics Wiki. What did you
expect?
L396[05:39:43] <SnowDapples> Well, I'm in
the OC channel, so I expected OC stuff ;D
L397[05:39:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: Did
you realize that I sent you a link that you can open in a normal
webbrowser or does that exceed your mental capacity?
L398[05:40:57] <DeanIsaKitty> I put TWO
WORDS into githubs search bar. "Docking" and
"Upgrade" HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT Noob??
L399[05:41:38] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: did
you realize that your link is located somewhere in the depths of
7th hell, not on some easy-and-quick-to-access wiki. And why on
earth users should look for such info inside source code of github?
lol
L400[05:41:48] <DeanIsaKitty> I hate that
attitude of your. NOBODY OWES YOU ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING! IF YOU WANT
INFORMATION, WORK FOR IT IDIOT
L401[05:42:01] <Turtle> JESUS CHRIST STOP
BEING MAD INSTANTLY
L402[05:42:01] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: wow
chill dude lol
L403[05:42:03] <Turtle> THIS IS NOT
TUMBLR
L404[05:42:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob,
Turtle: No.
L405[05:42:14] <Turtle> (If this IS
tumblr, let me know and I will nope out right away.)
L406[05:42:14] <DeanIsaKitty> I
wont.
L407[05:43:01] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: Stop
being hot-headed silly. I'm talking about convenience, because what
I'm saying is that regular people won't go there
L408[05:43:31] <DeanIsaKitty> I expect
people to use the small rest of a brain to think for themselves,
ESPECIALLY in this channel. Convenience is relative. Github is very
convenient if you ask me.
L409[05:45:38] <SnowDapples> I expected to
find info about that trough google, but to my surprise, I
couldn't.
L410[05:45:39] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: And I
expect all people to be emotionally stable, never yelling and
understand objective criticism that is only for the own good of the
projects. Does that mean I shall go "full nazi" on you
because of that?
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L412[05:46:07] <DeanIsaKitty> SnowDapples:
Google is a very bad search engine when it comes to code.
L413[05:46:14] <SnowDapples> but I found
that there's #computronics
L414[05:46:27] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, you
what
L415[05:46:41] <Turtle> If I google
´computronics mod´, the github is the 2nd result, the wiki is the
5th
L416[05:46:59] <Turtle> And before you say
anything, NO PEOPLE SHOULD NOT LOOK AT THE SOURCE CODE FOR
DOCUMENTATION
L417[05:47:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Githubs search searches the code itself, which is what you would
need there.
L418[05:47:11] <CodeNinja> I had to
once
L419[05:47:20] <DeanIsaKitty> And I am of
a different opinion. Source is the best documentation there
is.
L420[05:47:31] <Turtle> Yeah sucks to be
you.
L421[05:47:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Not really
:)
L422[05:48:04] <CodeNinja> I had to look
in source for documentation of Reika's mods because there is no
reliable online documentation
L423[05:48:09] <SnowDapples> Turtle:
that's the wiki that is missing the article for the docking
upgrade.
L424[05:48:17] <Turtle> SnowDapples,
ik
L425[05:48:18] <CodeNinja> except the
GitHub
L426[05:48:18] <Elizabeth> Reika's mods
are just.... iffy
L427[05:48:21] <Noob> Turtle: Exactly what
I'm saying. That kind of attitude only kills popularity of mod,
because people are pulled off from such "user-friendly access
to information"
L428[05:48:26] <Turtle> I´m not the one
who was raging his ass off at Noob´s inability to search through
the entire codebase of computronics for the documentation files
without any knowledge of how said documentation works
L429[05:48:27] <Turtle> >.>
L430[05:48:56] <Turtle> It´s not -that-
hard to copy-paste the 3 lines of documentation on the wiki
computronics has, really.
L431[05:49:03] <CodeNinja> There is a
comprehensive ingame maunal, but sometimes you want to know things
outside the game.
L432[05:49:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: Feel
free to do so.
L433[05:49:24] <Turtle> Not authed to do
so :p
L434[05:49:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Go slap
Vexatos
L435[05:49:49] <Turtle> Heck, I´m pretty
sure you could reimplement an online version of the documentation
with some hackery
L436[05:49:55] <DeanIsaKitty>
vifino!
L437[05:50:19] <vifino> Me?
L438[05:50:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Its your
server the wiki is hosted on, isn't it?
L439[05:50:37] <vifino> Yes.
L440[05:50:52] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty:
Besides, looking for documentation inside _code_ of project isn't a
very bright idea of information-access. I'm sure you wouldn't want
to learn about something like "windows api" only by
reading those huge header files, would you?
L441[05:51:40] <vifino> Oh, yeah, also, in
regards to that.
L442[05:51:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Thats why
documentation comments are pretty cool.
L443[05:51:43] <vifino>
DeanIsaKitty!
L444[05:51:48] <DeanIsaKitty>
vifino!
L445[05:51:50] <vifino>
DeanIsaKitty!
L446[05:51:53] <DeanIsaKitty>
vifino!
L447[05:51:55] <vifino>
DeanIsaKitty!
L448[05:51:59] <Turtle> I´m just going to
quickly point out it´s not unlikely that code changes documentation
outside of distribution versions
L449[05:52:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Sup.
L450[05:52:04] <Turtle> and legacy
versions are a thing
L451[05:52:14] <vifino> I'm quite fine,
how about you?
L452[05:52:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: So,
go back a few commits?
L453[05:52:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Rather good
I guess.
L454[05:52:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Except for a
short rant at people's attitude.
L455[05:52:54] <SnowDapples> I'm pretty
sure 80% of mod-users don't know how to use Github.
L456[05:52:56] <CodeNinja> etexts are the
bane of my existence
L457[05:52:58] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: why,
if you're so "nazi" then you should enjoy truly hardcore
level: reading code and figuring out for yourself :D
L458[05:53:03] <CodeNinja> especially
Pearson ones
L459[05:54:11] ⇦
Quits: t3hero_ (~t3hero@2601:202:100:7e79:90a:48bd:3b5:e39e) (Read
error: Connection reset by peer)
L460[05:54:21] <SnowDapples> agh, what's
up with these flamingos
L461[05:54:26] <SnowDapples> they're
everywhere :(
L462[05:54:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob:
Consider yourself informed that a) over here nazi has a meaning and
you shouldn't throw it around like that abd b) Yes, I do
actually.
L463[05:54:44] <CodeNinja> kill it with
fire
L464[05:54:45] <DeanIsaKitty> *and
L465[05:55:11] <vifino> I also do the
same, DeanIsaKitty.
L466[05:55:20] <CodeNinja> DIE PINK
BIRDS
L467[05:55:21] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: A
lot of coders do.
L468[05:55:26] <CodeNinja> I WILL BURN
YOU
L469[05:55:36] *
DeanIsaKitty hands CodeNinja a flamethrower
L470[05:55:48] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty,
you're a genius, right?>
L471[05:55:55] <Turtle> Yes, but unless
you have been living under a rock for the last godknowshowmany
years, software is not only to be used by other programmers
>.>
L472[05:55:55] <DeanIsaKitty> AHAHAHAHAHA
NO.
L473[05:56:10] <Izaya> have you any
idea
L474[05:56:20] <Izaya> the most minimal
xorg.conf to set colour depth to 24?
L475[05:56:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Probably? Maybe? That doesn't mean I have to make it easy for them,
do I?
L476[05:56:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Uhm,
sec
L477[05:56:29] <CodeNinja> -_-
L478[05:56:33] <vifino> CompanionCube once
told me that I wouldn't do that, it would be insane. I said that as
an answer to his response to me saying that I don't use comments or
docs 99% of the time.
L479[05:56:38] <Turtle> No, but you can at
least try to not be a jerk about it either >.>
L480[05:56:40] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: Notice
the quotes I've put around the world and remember the meaning
people usually put in such usage (for example, "grammar
nazi"). I'm sure you are clever enough to understand that I
mean no other meaning than that one, aren't you? :P
L481[05:56:51] <vifino> Skrubs. :|
L482[05:56:58] <Turtle> Noob, please, stop
trying to bend godwins law, it´s not going to happen.
L483[05:57:03] <CodeNinja> -_-
L484[05:57:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya:
Section "Screen" SubSection "Display" Depth 24
EndSubSection EndSection
L485[05:57:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Should do
the trick
L486[05:58:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: Does
"nigger" make you feel uncomfortable? Because it
should.
L487[05:58:46] <CodeNinja> It would, but I
hear it too often
L488[05:59:10] <Izaya> gah
L489[05:59:15] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, D: no
screens found
L490[05:59:30] <vifino> In a world where
people think that germans are all nazis, I think it is okay to be a
little bit mad at people calling them that.
L491[05:59:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Is the
identifier correct? Should be "Screen0" or
"Screen1"
L492[06:00:09] *
Izaya needed to add 'identifier'
L493[06:00:10] <Izaya> argh
L494[06:00:13] <Izaya> stupid apple
hardware
L495[06:00:17] <Izaya> still 8-bit
colour
L496[06:00:19] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: It
makes me feel nothing because it's a word used without meaning lol.
If you analyze sentences only by words then you may as well pretend
to be talking bot :P
L497[06:00:30] <CodeNinja> ALOT
L499[06:00:41] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: I'm
not mad at somebody calling me Nazi - it couldn't be more
incorrect. I'm mad because that takes the meaning of the word. Same
goes for all the new "rape" words there are now on
tumblr.
L500[06:01:38] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: It
didn't only apply to you.
L501[06:02:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Hmm.
Try setting DefaultDepth to 24 too in the Screen section itself.
:|
L502[06:03:53] <CodeNinja> what's
tumblr?
L503[06:03:59] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty:
Alright, I'll call you then "ignorant self-conceit bighead
with too short sight to understand that not everyone around them
think same or must enjoy same things they do, or use same ways of
doing things, and who thinks that everyone who doesn't follow that
must die in fire". Happy now with a name that means
practically the same thing but is written in different way?
:P
L504[06:04:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: I
guess I could be nice and do even more work for people that could
use it. But I could also spare me that time and do something which
I give higher priority. Its all about priorities, isn't it?
L505[06:04:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: FOR
YOU means the same thing. Not for me.
L506[06:04:34] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, oh
for fucks sake, This is not about you doing it.
L507[06:04:44] <Turtle> It´s about you not
being an asshat about the fact that it should be done
L508[06:04:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Not about
you either
L509[06:04:48] <Turtle> By whom is not
relevant here
L510[06:04:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Should be
done? By what you want.
L511[06:05:09] <CodeNinja> wow everyone
missed my stupid question in the middle of the battle
L512[06:05:23] <SnowDapples> tumblr is
basicially this.
L513[06:05:35] <Turtle> CodeNinja,
Blogging website, it´s basicly 4chan but with actual not-dumbness
on top
L514[06:05:35] <SnowDapples> Without the
useful parts.
L515[06:05:41] <DeanIsaKitty> This is open
source. Who defines what SHOULD be done?
L516[06:05:51] <Turtle> COMMON SENSE
DOES.
L517[06:06:00] <DeanIsaKitty> And that
means Wiki?
L518[06:06:05] <Izaya>
AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
L519[06:06:05] <Turtle> There is a
difference between must and should
L520[06:06:13] <DeanIsaKitty> For me
common sense is also using the github search function.
L521[06:06:20] <CodeNinja> DeanIsaKitty:
The ones who are competent enough to write code
L522[06:06:38] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: So for
you "grammar nazi" means "agent of holocaust",
and not "bighead who is extremely annoyed at anyone doing
grammar mistakes and yelling at them for that"? Just stop
being silly and admit that you need more temper and more common
sense :P
L523[06:06:42] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
You don't need to write code or be able to to read Markdown.
L524[06:06:49] <SnowDapples> ALOT
L526[06:07:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: I
dislike the word grammar nazi even more, don't you worry.
L527[06:07:20] <CodeNinja> I hear all of
these things way too often to care anymore
L528[06:07:27] <CodeNinja> I just ignore
them
L529[06:07:28] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, stop
pretending that there are no hoops involved in searching the github
for the markdown if you have no idea how the manual works
L530[06:07:44] <DeanIsaKitty> And I would
stop making assumptions about my temper since you do not know me.
At all. I don't make assumptions about you either.
L531[06:07:56] <Turtle> You are making
assumptions all the damn time here
L532[06:08:05] <DeanIsaKitty> For
example?
L533[06:08:51] *
CodeNinja gets popcorn
L534[06:08:54] <DeanIsaKitty> I tried for
the dearest to just respond to your actions and not assuming
anything behind them. I know you all have a fully developed brain
and a very smart. Dont you worry.
L535[06:09:20] <CodeNinja> u ppl r
silly
L536[06:09:21] <Noob> So you're basically
saying it's an "agent of holocaust", DeanIsaKitty?
Alright, we got a special snowflake here with damaged sense of
perception. Alright I'm out, arguing with those is pointless, for
they barely surpass talking bots in any sense -.-
L537[06:09:25] <DeanIsaKitty> The only
thing I assume that everybody in this channel is above the norm
when it comes to general intelligence.
L538[06:09:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: No,
I'm not.
L539[06:09:52] <Turtle> I had to scroll up
a bit, ¨<DeanIsaKitty> I love people that are unable to
think.¨ with regards to finding the markdown
L540[06:09:56] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: Excuse
me, who are you to assume anything and expect anything? A god or
something?
L541[06:10:06] <CodeNinja> Noob: That was
rude
L542[06:10:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Can I hold
that critisism against you too Noob?
L543[06:10:30] <CodeNinja> I'm not saying
everyone else wasn't, but that was next-level rude
L544[06:10:40] <Turtle> because having
common sense == being able to figure out what github is, that the
markdown would be on there, and how the search function works
L545[06:10:41] <Turtle> >.>
L546[06:11:02] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: Sure,
criticize me all you wish. As long as it makes sense and not being
a burst of rage for no objective reason
L547[06:11:37] <Turtle> This is still
minecraft, sure OC is not aimed at the youngest of players, but you
should still not go on a rant about how people are dumb for
suggesting (Albeit in a crude way) an easier way to find the
information
L548[06:11:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: I
will, don't you worry. But go ahead too.
L549[06:11:40] <CodeNinja>
"prohibited Friendship content" WTF does that page have
to do with friendship, and why is this blocked?
L550[06:11:45] <Noob> CodeNinja: I would
have agreed with you had he not yelled before that "everyone
must be as smart as me", which I think is actually rude
L551[06:11:52] <Turtle> Noob: Will you
quit fueling the rage here .-.
L552[06:12:08] <Turtle> Throwing around
words like grammar nazi isn´t going to help anything
L553[06:12:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: I am
not enraged. For me this is just a normal debate with people.
L554[06:12:18] <CodeNinja> wow
L555[06:12:46] <Turtle>
¨<DeanIsaKitty> I hate that attitude of your. NOBODY OWES YOU
ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING! IF YOU WANT INFORMATION, WORK FOR IT IDIOT¨
Uhu
L556[06:12:49] <Turtle> Perfectly
cool.
L557[06:12:53] <Turtle> Not mad in the
slightest.
L558[06:12:55] <CodeNinja> debates on the
internet are harsh and lack most principles of logic used in debate
clubs
L559[06:13:05] <Turtle> CodeNinja, You
just figured that one out? :P
L560[06:13:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Yeah, I ranted. But I don't anymore, do I?
L561[06:13:43] <CodeNinja> no, its just
even more obvious in real-time chat like IRC
L562[06:14:15] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, Did
you just miss the entire point of MY rant?
L563[06:14:17] <Turtle> .-.
L564[06:14:28] <DeanIsaKitty> I hope
not
L565[06:14:31] <CodeNinja> Brain, why do
you refuse to accept knowledge of basic Lua?
L566[06:14:43] *
CodeNinja hits self in head
L567[06:15:04] <Turtle> .-. Well, I tried
to get you so far to not rant at the idea that reading markdown
from source is a worse idea than updating the wiki >.>
L568[06:15:08] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Imagine "then" "do" etc are { and
"end" is } and it might be a bit easier :D
L569[06:16:06] <CodeNinja> I can code in
TI-84 BASIC, which is relatively self-explanatory, but little
else
L570[06:16:12] <Noob> Turtle: I'm talking
about people being unable to understand common sense and meanings.
If someone goes butthurt just because "others dont think like
he does" and thinks that it's *alright*, then that's not my
fault for "fueling rage". They will rage just from me
asking logical points in their speech
L571[06:16:29] <vifino> function
drink_booze(person) for cell in pairs(person.brain) do
cell:murder() end end
L572[06:16:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: My
whole argument was about you two ladies/gentleman being upset about
the fact that there is no information available about Computronics
at all and how that is a bad thing. This is an attitude I simply
can't stand, sorry.
L573[06:16:48] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, yep
you missed my point
L574[06:17:06] <DeanIsaKitty> No, I did
not
L575[06:17:14] <CodeNinja> Who said there
was no information on Computronics? There's lots of information,
albeit spread across several sites
L576[06:17:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Unless our
misunderstanding goes deeper than that.
L577[06:17:18] <Turtle> ^
L578[06:17:30] <CodeNinja> to get all that
you need yopu may need to poen many pages
L579[06:17:40] <DeanIsaKitty> <
Noob> Elizabeth: I mean, documentation of OC and Computronics,
as well as few other addons is quite poor done.
L580[06:17:40] <Turtle> I said that
updating the wiki was ´better´ than telling everyone to go find the
source code
L581[06:17:42] <CodeNinja> *open
L582[06:17:50] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, Is
that my name on that message?
L583[06:18:03] <DeanIsaKitty> No, I said
you TWO, refering to you and Noob.
L584[06:18:24] <Turtle> ... Yep you
screwed yourself here: You are assuming I and noob share exactly
the same stance on the matter
L585[06:18:28] <CodeNinja> i tried
L586[06:18:57] <DeanIsaKitty> In this
specific instance - since you defended his point - I debated
against both of you.
L587[06:19:14] <Turtle> Look, that´s
fine
L588[06:19:29] <Turtle> I defended his
point, but also yelled at him to stop being an idiot while debating
it too
L589[06:19:29] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: Yes,
for example about camera upgrade. Despite there being information
on the wiki, I still had to ask vex in which ranges does he work,
and he confirmed for me that those ranges on wiki pages aren't
actually correct. That's why I called it "poor done",
along with lacking information about some other things _on
wiki_
L590[06:19:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Sorry if you felt attacked - I didn't mean to.
L591[06:20:00] *
CodeNinja tries to think of another valid question unrelated to the
arguement
L592[06:20:06] <Turtle> I just got annoyed
you exploded in range (for a short while) at the idea people are
dumb >.>
L593[06:20:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Thats my general stance on people.
L594[06:20:23] <Turtle> Which kinda made
you look like one of those ¨I AM THE BEST, GET ON MY LEVEL
SCRUBS¨-people
L595[06:20:30] <DeanIsaKitty> I hoped this
channel would be less idiots and more smart people
L596[06:20:46] <Noob> Now look at him,
he's throwing more names.
L597[06:20:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: I am
not talkin about you.
L598[06:21:25] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, well
yeah, but that doesn´t mean suggestions for streamlining is only
for idiots
L599[06:21:35] <vifino> FUCK!
L600[06:21:48] <CodeNinja> No one here is
an idiot, I think some level of intelligence would be required to
find this channel in the first place
L601[06:21:51] <vifino> Where is my
launchkey when I need it? ;_;
L602[06:22:01] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Thats pretty much my point
L603[06:22:05] <CodeNinja> You are just
loudly opinoinated
L604[06:22:13] <DeanIsaKitty> In some
cases
L605[06:22:14] <CodeNinja> Like
Americans
L606[06:22:39] <DeanIsaKitty> for example
when people fuck up in an area where I held them in high
regards.
L607[06:22:56] <CodeNinja> Like bomb
defusal?
L608[06:23:02] <CodeNinja> With real
bombs?
L609[06:23:10] <vifino> :D FOUND IT!
L610[06:23:13] <vifino> WOOOOOOOO!
L611[06:23:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, there
won't be much to scream at after that will it?
L612[06:23:24] <CodeNinja> nope :)
L613[06:23:28] <Forecaster> now I want to
play "Keep talking and nobody explodes"
L614[06:23:42] <CodeNinja> I watched
Soaryn play it
L615[06:23:43] <vifino> Forecaster: Keep
talking or I'll make you explode.
L616[06:23:45] <vifino> >:D
L617[06:23:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Streamlining is this case would be more work for the maintainer
though.
L618[06:24:49] <Turtle> Yes, but in this
case we argue that the effort involved in copy-pasting the ingame
manual text or giving someone permissions to do so is worth the
effort
L619[06:24:50] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: All
you have to do is expand your temper a little more and accept that
people don't have to think exactly like you (i.e., using github
first to look for the information or know about github so much)
lol
L620[06:25:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: Not
first, but also.
L621[06:25:06] <Turtle> (Especially with
the maintainer being less asked about the now relatively tricky to
find information)
L622[06:25:35] <CodeNinja> TURTLE
L623[06:25:44] <Turtle> ... did I fuck up
badly?
L624[06:25:54] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: As for
streamlining, the In-game doc is good enough to be directly
script-ported onto wiki. Since OC supports images, a script could
replace ingame format of item images with those on website
L625[06:25:55] <CodeNinja> oh wait, it
wasnt you
L626[06:25:59] <Turtle> .-. xD
L627[06:26:09] <CodeNinja> noob, shut
up
L628[06:26:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
sadly its not just that. I can now only speak from my own
experience but documentation for an external wiki is more like stop
coding -> goto wiki -> open new page -> Think of good docs
(or copy them) -> Save -> go back to coding -> forget
everything about the code and be out of the flow.
L629[06:26:23] <CodeNinja> then there will
be no more arguement
L630[06:26:27] <vifino> ... Could someone
give me Propellerhead Reason 8? >_> <_<
L631[06:26:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: Please
write such a script. I'm pretty sure Vex would be grateful
L632[06:26:49] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, well
yeah but devs being poked on IRC all the time would take them out
of coding a lot too :p
L633[06:27:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, guess
why he doesn't respond very fast.
L634[06:27:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Neither does
Sangar btw :)
L635[06:27:17] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: I
would if I had any idea into insights of the wiki system, or
website itself, or anything else like that
L636[06:27:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: See?
Writing such a script is more work that you might think.
L637[06:27:47] <Turtle> ... where is that
xkcd
L639[06:27:55] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Automation Posted on: 1/20/2014
L640[06:28:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Pretty much, yes
L641[06:28:40] <Turtle> but, realisticly,
if it weren´t significantly not worth the effort, you should be
able to reflection the manual code out of the mod jar, then display
that on a website
L642[06:28:50] <Turtle> Vaadin could be
pretty neat for doing such a thing
L643[06:29:03] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty: Pretty
sure Python script for that work wouldn't be that hard. I would
even give the part that downloads github doc pages and converts
item images there with link+pic
L644[06:29:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: I
think just running javadoc / scaladoc on the code would help
too.
L645[06:29:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: Write
one
L646[06:29:39] <Turtle> tbh, I don´t
expect javadoc to do a whole lot
L647[06:29:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: I
lost track, did you screen thing work?
L648[06:30:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: Not
a lot, but maybe just enough?
L649[06:30:29] <Turtle> Doubt it, since
you need to get data out of the interface >.<
L650[06:30:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: IIRC
javadoc does make use of doc-comments.
L651[06:31:01] <Turtle> yeah but I highly
doubt the OC manual is javadoc compatible :P
L652[06:31:05] <DeanIsaKitty> And even if
not, editing the .md in the repo would be much less work than
editing the wiki still
L653[06:31:28] <Turtle> And I´m not even
sure if you can reflection your way out of having to rewrite a
dummy minecraft/forge implementation so the jvm won´t hate
you
L654[06:32:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Maybe. I
don't know enough about JavaDoc to say anything of value here. My
point was just that there are static generators for documentation,
might as well use them/
L655[06:33:05] <Turtle> Wouldn´t it give
code documentation anyway? Instead of documentation for the
blocks?
L656[06:33:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah, but
the docs for the code that results in a block might as well
document what that block does.
L657[06:35:52] <vifino> I never really
document my code, no matter if it is work or private, makes sure
nobody can replace me ;D
L658[06:36:04] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty,
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah no
L659[06:36:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Huh?
L660[06:36:23] <Turtle> Code documentation
=/= good functionality documentation
L661[06:36:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah, but
they don't contradict each other either, do they?
L662[06:36:42] <Turtle> Don´t assume
people program without mistakes. (Otherwise modding would be
fucktons easier, Grr Mojang)
L663[06:37:04] <DeanIsaKitty> I absolutely
do not. I had my fair share of bugs
L664[06:37:30] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, my
point is that javadoc doesn´t help with functionality in a lot of
cases
L665[06:37:31] <DeanIsaKitty> But
documentation is different from code - at least for me.
L666[06:37:37] <Turtle> especially when
apis come into the picture
L667[06:37:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: It
may not. No need to only use javadoc
L668[06:38:30] <Turtle> I guess, but then
you´re back to markdowns
L669[06:38:52] <DeanIsaKitty> I mean
basically you could have a system like Noo b said where a script
takes those mds and uploads them to a wiki of sorts. That would be
static doc generation too
L670[06:39:41] <Turtle> Might be more
feasible to just have a website run the interface directly from
(deobfuscated) mod jars though
L671[06:40:03] <DeanIsaKitty> My argument
is that writing documentation outside of the source tree is more
cumbersome than inside and that might just make the difference
between horrible docs and somewhat okayish docs
L672[06:40:06] <Turtle> Depends on if it´s
possible to run just the interface without the jvm yelling because
minecraft is not loaded .-.
L673[06:40:45] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty,
in-source documentation is not a problem, but having it outside the
code too is imho, better than the alternatives
L674[06:40:53] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, nop,
have to play with modesetting more
L675[06:41:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: But
you see how well the outside documentation gets updated. And I
fully understand why this keeps happening and happening.
L676[06:42:02] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty,
hence I mentioned that it didn´t have to be the maintainer
L677[06:42:15] <CodeNinja> OCTREE
L678[06:42:19] <Turtle> (Y´know, why wikis
are well, wikis, instead of regular websites)
L679[06:42:26] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: I
can talk to Vex so he gives you and Noob (if you want) wiki
accounts
L680[06:42:58] <Turtle> I could attempt to
update the wiki, but I don´t use computronics a lot though
>.<
L681[06:43:04] <Turtle> but yeah you could
I suppose
L682[06:43:12] <Turtle> *As in, yell at
Vex
L683[06:43:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Okay. That
settles it then :P
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L685[06:43:51] <DeanIsaKitty> If you run
the docs I won't ever blame you for the quality and I can't yell at
you for saying that the docs are bad either :P
L686[06:44:28] <Turtle> hmhm
L687[06:44:45] <Turtle> Quickly looked at
the manual code, it´s a bit too linked to minecraft to just
reflection out of .-.
L688[06:45:45] <Turtle> if the api allows
to read out already set manual stuff should be possible to make a
mod to just dump the OC manual at a buttonclick
L689[06:46:17] <CodeNinja> Why does MC
change bits of its internal code in every new version?
L690[06:46:30] <CodeNinja> with no
apparent reason for doing so
L691[06:46:35] <dangranos> why wouldn't
it?
L692[06:46:45] <CodeNinja> To be nice to
modders
L693[06:46:50] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Because Mojang has a utter disregard for modders. They do whatever
is convenient and don't care about modability
L694[06:47:22] <Turtle> To quickly plug
into that, oh god the skybox is raw openGL and I have no idea what
the hell AE2 is doing in it´s skybox code
L695[06:47:40] <DeanIsaKitty> You surely
remember Mojangs API they promised? That should give you a hint
about the situation.
L696[06:47:59] <Turtle> ... Didn´t some
people made a bloody animated song about the API not being here yet
ages ago?
L697[06:48:01] <DeanIsaKitty> AE2 is open
source?
L698[06:48:23] <Turtle> Dunno, I could
just go onto their github, steal the sky code for some
testing
L699[06:48:37] <DeanIsaKitty> LGPL. Huh.
Anybody know since when?
L700[06:48:47] <Turtle> pretty sure I
can´t use the code in production, but just to test another part of
my code, who the hell is going to care >.<
L701[06:49:04] <DeanIsaKitty> LGPL. You
can do whatever the hell you want actually.
L702[06:49:25] <Turtle> pretty sure I have
to keep the code that´s copied somewhat seperate
L704[06:50:00] <DeanIsaKitty> The right
paragraph is the most useful
L705[06:50:06] <Turtle> I (somewhat, not a
lawyer) know what LGPL is :P
L706[06:50:25] <Turtle> But for what I
want to implement I need to do a load of custom opengl anyway
L707[06:50:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Modification
is allowed. So you don't have to keep any code seperate
L708[06:50:49] <Turtle> when the fuck did
the lwjgl site become not-ugly
L709[06:51:21] <Turtle> nvm, just v3 that
has the fancy site, v2 is still the ugly old one :P
L710[06:51:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Since they
started using bootstrap
L711[06:57:41] <Elizabeth> back to
lessons
L712[06:58:09] <Turtle> slightly related:
Guessing by how RFTools/mystcraft have custom skies, it should be
possible to do a decent bit of situation dependant sky rendering,
no?
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L714[07:11:52] <Turtle> Even less related:
Is it known how galacticraft does it´s celestials? (E.g. earth
during takeoff)
L715[07:18:56] <Kodos> o/
L716[07:19:06] <Turtle> o/
L717[07:21:34] <CodeNinja> Turtle: Part of
it is a vanilla map render...
L718[07:22:07] <Turtle> CodeNinja, err,
how do you mean? It using some of the code that is used for the map
item?
L719[07:23:12] <Noob> Hm, github doesn't
let me spam repo API too much unfortunately
L720[07:23:12] <CodeNinja> I mean it
starts as actually moving you up in y and rendering that, then it
becomes an enlarged map. Like, they supersize a map and use
that.
L721[07:23:26] <Turtle> oh I see
L722[07:23:32] <CodeNinja> The only reason
I know this is because I launched a rocket.
L723[07:23:44] <Turtle> I wanted to try
and copy that somehow, to get a dimension which looks like it´s in
´in orbit´
L724[07:23:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: It
should be something like 60req/min. Should be enough for most
things though.
L725[07:24:24] <CodeNinja> You could just
overwrite the moon in that dim with an earth, and alter its
properties
L726[07:24:48] <Forecaster> does
"int++" work in lua?
L727[07:24:58] <Caitlyn> no, sadly
L728[07:24:58] <Turtle> Yeaaah, what I was
aiming for would require various planets, so not overriding a
celestial might be better
L729[07:25:03] <Forecaster> if not what's
the closest equivalent?
L730[07:25:06] <Caitlyn> int = int +
1
L731[07:25:09] <DeanIsaKitty>
int=int+1
L732[07:25:18] <Forecaster> allright
L733[07:25:20] <Forecaster> close
enough
L734[07:25:21] <CodeNinja> set int to
value of int + one
L735[07:25:33] <CodeNinja> should work in
any language
L736[07:26:13] <DeanIsaKitty> s/age/age
with variables/g
L737[07:26:13] <Kibibyte>
<CodeNinja> should work in any language with variables
L738[07:26:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Well,
mutable variables to be precise
L739[07:26:55] <CodeNinja> Kibibyte:
???
L740[07:27:03] <DeanIsaKitty> Our sed
bot
L741[07:27:11] *
DeanIsaKitty hugs Kibibyte
L742[07:27:21] <Caitlyn> s/our/one of
our/
L743[07:27:21] <Kibibyte>
<DeanIsaKitty> AE2 is open sone of ource?
L744[07:27:26] <CodeNinja> what is a
"sed bot"
L745[07:27:32] <Caitlyn> s/Our/One of
our/
L746[07:27:32] <Kibibyte>
<DeanIsaKitty> One of our sed bot
L747[07:27:35] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Do you know the unix tool "sed"?
L748[07:27:35] <Caitlyn> s
L749[07:27:37] <Caitlyn> w/e
L750[07:28:01] <CodeNinja> nope, always
used windows
L751[07:28:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Its a search
and replace tool on the most basic level
L752[07:28:17] <DeanIsaKitty> i.e.
L753[07:28:32] <DeanIsaKitty>
s/\//hatev/g
L754[07:28:32] <Kibibyte> <Caitlyn>
whateve
L755[07:29:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Technically
speaking its an editor that works on a stream (Stream EDitor)
L756[07:29:56] <Forecaster> apparently I
can't put "sides.south" in a table >:
L757[07:29:59] <Caitlyn> Alas, I must go
to work. PS. I hate metal roofs (Putting them on that is)
L758[07:30:27] <CodeNinja> I wonder how
roofers survive in florida
L759[07:30:50] <vifino> haha, i just
entertained myself with a synth for ages.
L760[07:32:08] <CodeNinja> I entertained
myself with a ring of lumen turrets while trying to code
"Still Alive" into a chromaticcraft crystal
orchestra
L761[07:32:27] <CodeNinja> actually
technically not coding
L762[07:33:22] <Forecaster> why doesn't
"table = {"string", sides.south, sides.up} work
D:
L763[07:33:53] <DeanIsaKitty> is sides
included?
L764[07:34:28] <Forecaster> no, I thought
it was included by default
L765[07:34:38] <Forecaster> it works in
the lua prompt without having to do anything
L766[07:34:45] <DeanIsaKitty> have a look
if sides.south means anything in the file.
L767[07:34:54] <DeanIsaKitty> If its nil
then it can
L768[07:34:57] <DeanIsaKitty> 't
work
L769[07:35:11] <Forecaster>
require("sides") worked
L770[07:35:28] <DeanIsaKitty> If you
required sides it is in fact included
L771[07:35:41] <Forecaster> it is now
yeah
L772[07:35:45] <Forecaster> I didn't do
that earlier
L773[07:35:53] <CodeNinja> is there a way
to import Lua code from an external editor into opencomputers
L774[07:35:54] <DeanIsaKitty> That should
fix it then :)
L775[07:36:06] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Yeah
L776[07:36:10] <Forecaster>
copypaste
L777[07:36:11] <Forecaster> :P
L778[07:36:14] <CodeNinja> omg
L779[07:36:21] <DeanIsaKitty> in
saves/world/opencomputer/... something like that
L780[07:36:25] <CodeNinja> copypaste never
works in MC
L781[07:36:33] <CodeNinja> you must be
lying
L782[07:36:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Who?
Me?
L783[07:36:50] <Forecaster> you can paste
into the oc text editor fine
L784[07:36:59] <CodeNinja> I'm
kidding
L785[07:37:07] <Forecaster> if you have
multiple files it can be annoying though
L786[07:37:15] <CodeNinja> I
have...difficulties copypasting with MC
L787[07:37:29] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Just copy it over windows explorer
L788[07:37:46] <CodeNinja> partly because
I still havent figured out how to select a block of MC's text
L789[07:37:47] <DeanIsaKitty> If you do
that also set the buffered filesystem in the config to 0
L790[07:37:56] <CodeNinja> the oc text
editor fine [08:36] <CodeNinja> I'm kidding [08:37]
<Forecaster> if you have multiple files it can be annoying
though [08:37] <CodeNinja> I have...difficulties copypasting
with MC [08:37] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja: Just copy it over
windows explorer [08:37] <CodeNinja> partly because I still
havent figured
L791[07:38:19] <CodeNinja> and yes, I can
copypast just fine outside of MC, in case you were worried
L792[07:38:35] <Forecaster> copying from
minecraft can be annoying yeah
L793[07:38:40] <Forecaster> pasting works
fine :P
L794[07:39:33] <CodeNinja> Sometimes I
look at the user list and wonder how many users are bots
L795[07:39:43] <Forecaster> I'm a
bot
L796[07:39:59] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Ok, the actual path to the files in the saves is
saves/<WorldName>/opencomputers/<computer id>
L797[07:40:42] <CodeNinja> ok
L798[07:40:54] <Forecaster> but that's
cheating D:
L799[07:40:56] <Kodos> Only instead of
computer ID, he means HDD/Floppy ID
L800[07:41:00] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
MichiBot Kibibyte v^ DEADBEEF should be all
L801[07:41:08] <CodeNinja> Now I can write
Lua code in Notepad++ and paste it into MC in one way or
another
L802[07:41:14] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: yeah,
haven't played in a while :D
L803[07:42:01] <Forecaster> also my
WatchtowerAnnouncer, but that only connects when there's an episode
to announce :P
L804[07:42:31] <CodeNinja> an episode of
what?
L805[07:42:38] <Forecaster> my
letsplay
L806[07:42:50] <CodeNinja>
youtube.com/forecaster?
L807[07:42:57] <Forecaster>
forecaster71
L808[07:43:28] <CodeNinja> What pack?
Custom?
L809[07:43:33] <Forecaster> custom
L810[07:44:14] <CodeNinja> Yay for
custom
L811[07:44:34] <CodeNinja> When I first
played a custom pack I forgot to turn off dupe oregen
L812[07:45:02] <CodeNinja> I turned it off
later, but it's probably only effective in unexplored chunks
L813[07:45:15] <Forecaster> I have Custom
Ore Gen
L814[07:46:06] <CodeNinja> yeah, I want
that but I dont know enough about JSON files to do it
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L816[07:46:28] <Forecaster> you don't
really need to edit files to use it
L817[07:46:36] <Forecaster> the default
distributions work fine
L818[07:46:53] <Forecaster> assuming you
are using mods that are included
L819[07:47:56] <Forecaster> and you can
tweak it with the in-game settings when creating a new world
L820[07:48:04] <CodeNinja> I just
installed forge, threw together a mod collection, and sorted out
dependencies
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L822[07:49:33] <Forecaster> I installed
COG later in the series
L823[07:50:55] <CodeNinja> Oh, I was
talking about the CoFH Core custom oregen
L824[07:51:12] <Forecaster> I wasn't
:P
L825[07:51:18] <CodeNinja> I just
noticed
L826[07:52:51] <CodeNinja> Modlist
anywhere?
L827[07:53:09] <Forecaster> there's a
scrolling list at the end of each episode
L829[07:56:05] <CodeNinja> I have many of
those mods
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L831[08:00:52] <CodeNinja> HE HAS THE
PNEUMATIC HELMET
L832[08:01:17] <CodeNinja> we will watch,
no one uses the pneumatic helmet
L833[08:03:32] <Forecaster> hm, how do I
split a string in two at a space
L834[08:04:01] <CodeNinja> ummmm
L836[08:04:17] <Turtle>
string.gmatch
L837[08:04:26] <Forecaster> oo
L838[08:05:12] <CodeNinja>
substrings?
L839[08:05:20] *
CodeNinja guesses wildly
L840[08:05:30] <CodeNinja> Do you do
coding in your vids?
L841[08:05:41] <Forecaster> I haven't so
far
L842[08:05:49] <Forecaster> except
Pneumaticcraft programming
L843[08:05:55] <CodeNinja> this is
wrong
L844[08:06:00] <Forecaster> I'm just now
starting doing oc stuff
L845[08:06:09] <CodeNinja> Forecaster does
not sound like forecaster
L846[08:06:50] <Forecaster> and I'm not
going to code on camera, it would be super boring
L847[08:07:09] <Forecaster> I will show
the program when it's done though, and probably go through it
L848[08:07:15] <CodeNinja> But
educational
L849[08:10:11] <Forecaster> patterns are
complicated
L850[08:10:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Forecaster:
You could make dedicated episodes on programs you made, similar to
how direwolf does it.
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L852[08:11:00] <Forecaster> nah, I'll walk
through the program once it's done
L853[08:11:09] <Forecaster> and then show
it in action
L854[08:11:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Thats what I
meant actually :D
L855[08:11:26] <Forecaster> that's
generally what I've done with PC programs
L856[08:11:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Show the
source, explain the source and teach the little kids some Lua
:P
L857[08:12:35] <Forecaster> patterns seem
to be kinda similar to regex, but not really
L858[08:13:00] <Forecaster> how do I match
a blankspace...
L859[08:13:08] <DeanIsaKitty> They are
from what I can tell quite a bit less powerfull than regex
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L861[08:13:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Forecaster:
'% ' I think
L862[08:14:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Or it might
just be a space itself
L864[08:14:56] <Kodos> %s for space
characters
L865[08:15:00] <DeanIsaKitty> ... nvm I'm
blind.
L866[08:15:48] <CodeNinja> Who would like
it if Minecraft used a custom game engine with an interface like
Unity and the internal code wasn't changed without warning? And
API's were provided for modding?
L867[08:16:05] <Forecaster> nobody, I'm
sure
L868[08:16:25] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Then you just had MineTest
L869[08:16:50] <CodeNinja> what do you
mean
L870[08:17:12] <Kodos> You pretty much
described MineTest
L872[08:18:23] <CodeNinja> did someone
seriously take it upon themselves to rewrite the entirety of MC's
code in a logical way?
L873[08:18:33] <Turtle> no way that´s the
entirety :P
L874[08:18:42] <DeanIsaKitty> No its a
completely different game
L875[08:18:45] <CodeNinja> oh
L876[08:18:50] <DeanIsaKitty> Just the
same basic idea as Minecraft
L877[08:19:02] <DeanIsaKitty> But somebody
made a savegame compatible clone iirc
L878[08:19:55] <CodeNinja> darnit MC,
Space engineers is easier to mod, and it uses a custom engine
L879[08:20:06] <CodeNinja> and doesnt run
on java
L880[08:20:12] <Kodos> And is hopefully
getting planets today
L881[08:20:20] <Forecaster>
hopefully
L882[08:20:33] <Forecaster> I just wish my
computer could run it without stuttering
L883[08:20:36] <CodeNinja> Am I the only
one who doesnt care about planets?
L884[08:20:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Sadly its
only windows atm
L885[08:21:16] <CodeNinja> I just want a
more failsafe way to launch gravity-drive torpedoes
L886[08:21:37] <Forecaster> but
atmospheric thrusters D:
L887[08:21:44] <Kodos> Hydrogen fuel
L888[08:21:53] <Kodos> That's what I'm
most excited for; Hydrogen additions and changes
L889[08:21:57] <CodeNinja> KSP
L890[08:22:17] <Forecaster> it's like
minecraft and ksp had a bady, kinda
L891[08:22:21] <Forecaster> baby*
L892[08:22:22] <CodeNinja> Its the only
other game I wish I had the money to buy
L893[08:22:26] <Forecaster> :P
L894[08:22:29] <Turtle> That reminds me,
shameless question: How sane would it be to implement spaceships
(For minecraft) in a way that is somewhat similar to how starbound
does it?
L895[08:22:38] <CodeNinja> whats
starbound
L896[08:22:47] <Forecaster> Turtle: how do
you mean?
L897[08:22:51] <Forecaster> as a separate
world?
L898[08:22:54] <Turtle> TLDR: Terraria in
space that had dev issues
L899[08:22:55] <CodeNinja> It would be
undeniably awesome. What's starbound?
L900[08:22:59] <Turtle> Seperate
dimension
L901[08:23:08] <Forecaster> world ==
dimension
L902[08:23:13] <Forecaster> I've wanted
that
L903[08:23:18] <Forecaster> that'd be
awesome
L904[08:23:20] <Turtle> semantics
L905[08:23:21] <Turtle> but uh
L906[08:23:28] <CodeNinja> If you can
manage the miracle of seamless transitiion, that would be
awesome
L907[08:23:44] <Turtle> It´d have loading
screens as it´s a seperate world/dimension
L908[08:23:46] <Forecaster> seamless
transition between what?
L909[08:23:56] <CodeNinja> ship and
ground
L910[08:23:59] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
With all the loading time attached I can't really imagine seamless
dimension travel
L911[08:23:59] <Forecaster> in starbound
you teleport between the ship and planets
L912[08:24:09] <Turtle> But it should be a
lot more functional than the current mess of entities that
galacticraft/advanced rocketry have
L913[08:24:17] <Turtle> (At the cost of
not being able to land)
L914[08:24:38] <CodeNinja> AKA make it
less immersion-breaking than the MC loading screen
L915[08:25:04] <CodeNinja> I'm looking at
you, galacticcraft
L916[08:25:15] <Forecaster> it'd be like
teleporting to a dimension I'd assume
L917[08:25:19] <Turtle> You´d just beam
up/down the spaceship, I can´t remove the loading screen that
dimension switching has without fucking over a good part of
minecraft forge in the process .-.
L918[08:25:48] <Forecaster> there's also
Advanced Rocketry
L919[08:25:55] <Turtle> Like, you´re not
getting a ´WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO´ prompt in your face, but it the
dimension loading screen is hard to remove I believe
L920[08:26:01] <CodeNinja> Mojang, we want
a modding API, and boats that arent ridiculously easy to
break
L921[08:26:05] <Forecaster> which has
building rockets out of blocks that you launch ksp style
L922[08:26:12] <CodeNinja> But mostly a
modding API
L923[08:26:18] <Forecaster> CodeNinja:
boats have been fixed in 1.9
L924[08:26:21] <Turtle> Forecaster, yep,
but as far as I got it, it´s still a semiglitchy mess of
entities
L925[08:26:37] <CodeNinja> So is KSP, have
you encountered the Kraken?
L926[08:26:51] <Turtle> Yeah, also join
reinforcement dude
L927[08:26:53] <Turtle> it´s good :P
L928[08:26:54] <CodeNinja> Each part is a
separate entity
L929[08:27:02] <Turtle> in AR or
KSP?
L930[08:27:10] <Forecaster> ksp
L931[08:27:11] <CodeNinja> KSP
L932[08:27:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Thats why
welding is so powerful in KSP :P
L933[08:27:18] <Turtle> Because KSP was
supposed to work that way
L934[08:27:26] <Turtle> In minecraft it´s
just a hack
L935[08:27:32] <CodeNinja> I wish there
way some way to obtain a free copy of KSP
L936[08:27:35] <CodeNinja> I am poor
L937[08:27:35] <Turtle> (Upon the pile of
hacks that is forge, mcp, and minecraft itself)
L938[08:27:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Minecraft
itself is just a hack
L939[08:27:43] <Turtle> :STEAM
SALES:
L940[08:27:53] <CodeNinja>
but...free?
L941[08:28:00] <DeanIsaKitty> KSP has no
DRM, you know that, don't you?
L942[08:28:02] <CodeNinja> yes
L943[08:28:14] <CodeNinja> Im not pirating
it nonetheless
L944[08:28:39] <DeanIsaKitty> So you want
somebody to just gift it to you?
L945[08:28:41] <CodeNinja> The fact that
the developers trust you not to pirate it makes me even less likely
to pirate it
L946[08:28:45] <Forecaster> you're not
gonna get it for free then :p
L947[08:28:59] <CodeNinja> No, I want a
fair opportunity to obtain it for free
L948[08:29:03] <Forecaster> I pirated it
to start with
L949[08:29:15] <Forecaster> then
determined that it was an excellent game and bought it
L950[08:29:22] <CodeNinja> ****, I'll get
the demo and save up my moneys
L951[08:29:30] <CodeNinja> How much is it,
$20?
L952[08:29:36] <DeanIsaKitty> There is no
fair way of getting stuff thats worth money for free without
somebody gifting it CodeNinja.
L953[08:29:37] <Turtle> something like
that
L955[08:30:46] *
CodeNinja knows what terraria is
L956[08:30:47] <Turtle> Something like
that should be implementable in minecraft, probably even completely
built up from the ground (Akin to SE)
L957[08:30:57] <Forecaster> can't change
the exterior though, unless you have a certain mod
L958[08:31:00] <Turtle> CodeNinja, yeah
but I needed to point out the principle of building :p
L959[08:31:03] <CodeNinja> I wouldnt
really care to play it tho
L960[08:31:19] <Turtle> Just needed to
point out how building works so you can imagine how it´d work in
minecraft >.<
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L962[08:31:59] <CodeNinja> so basically a
fancy Spatial IO cell
L963[08:32:14] <Turtle> actually, it might
be possible to allow airsealing of an entire spaceship without huge
amounts of lag every time a block is broken
L964[08:32:17] <Forecaster> why does
string.gmatch return a function...
L965[08:32:21] <Turtle> CodeNinja,
basicly
L966[08:32:31] <Turtle> Forecaster, it
returns an interator
L967[08:32:46] <Forecaster> what do I do
with that?
L968[08:33:02] <Turtle> for string in
FUNCTION do [STUFF] end
L969[08:33:17] <Turtle> note: Don´t use
´string´ as variable, I am a bad :p
L970[08:33:20] <Turtle> but you get the
point
L971[08:34:03] <Forecaster>
"unfinished capture"... what
L972[08:34:14] <Turtle> what now
L973[08:34:34] <Turtle> your pattern is
wrong
L974[08:34:47] <Forecaster> oh I see
L975[08:34:53] <Forecaster> I forgot a
)
L976[08:35:01] <Turtle> You need to escape
brackets too since, patterns :P
L977[08:35:07] <CodeNinja> I see a
fire
L978[08:35:46] <Turtle> but yeah, the
whole spaceship thing should be interesting now?
L979[08:35:52] <CodeNinja> It is
indded
L980[08:36:05] <Forecaster> like I said,
I've thought about a mod like that
L981[08:36:07] <Forecaster> I wants
it
L982[08:36:13] <Turtle> I was thinking
about heavily forcing usage of OC for things like
warpdrives/shields, There might be a hacky way to do ship to ship
combat
L983[08:36:22] <CodeNinja> Is trying to
fill a room with Galacticraft O2 laggy?
L984[08:36:35] <Turtle> CodeNinja, it´s a
pretty small room
L985[08:36:50] <CodeNinja> but what about
a big room?
L986[08:36:53] <Turtle> and it checks for
every block, once every few ticks I believe
L987[08:36:57] <Turtle> you simply can´t
iirc.
L988[08:37:02] <Forecaster> it returns the
word now, but not the second match, the digit...
L989[08:37:02] <CodeNinja> What about a
base, on mars?
L990[08:37:30] <Turtle> either way, how I
was wanting to handle it would be ´locking´ down all hull blocks
after a scan
L991[08:37:36] *
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moon
L992[08:37:49] <Turtle> so they can´t be
broken, meaning no need to check for hull breaches
L993[08:38:09] <Turtle> (And then to
build, you´d disable the lock, automatic depressurize, etc)
L994[08:38:17] <CodeNinja> combat would
have to check for hull breaches
L995[08:38:29] <CodeNinja> because
combat
L996[08:38:32] <Turtle> well yeah but that
can be done without checking all blocks 24/7
L997[08:38:47] <CodeNinja> yeah, since
each ship is a separate dim
L998[08:38:54] <Turtle> if I were to
implement combat it´d be ´virtual´ combat anyway, since seperate
dim
L999[08:38:57] <CodeNinja> I want the
Doors mod
L1000[08:39:08] <CodeNinja> CAMERA TO
ANOTHER WORLD
L1001[08:39:14] <Turtle> Would probably
be neat to have some kind of radar component/peripheral that allows
detection of other ships
L1002[08:39:22] <Turtle> without them
being visible otherwise, because space is huge
L1003[08:39:31] <CodeNinja> I wonder if
Reika could use that mod to fix his CCTV's
L1004[08:39:39] <Forecaster> meh why
doesn't it print the number? D:
L1005[08:39:45] <Turtle> Forecaster, code
please? :P
L1006[08:40:00] <Forecaster> where were
the files stored again?
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L1008[08:40:13] <Turtle>
saves/opencomputers/FILESYSTEM_ID
L1009[08:40:14] <Turtle> iirc
L1010[08:40:20] <Forecaster> nvm, found
it
L1012[08:41:10] <CodeNinja> how di I
access the files on the disk drive from the command line?
L1013[08:41:19] <Turtle> CodeNinja, with
openos? mount them
L1014[08:41:50] <Kodos> Or find it
directly in the /mnt folder
L1015[08:41:59] <CodeNinja> The os that
doesnt come on a red floppy
L1016[08:42:11] <CodeNinja> I think it
comes in a green floppy
L1017[08:42:16] <Turtle> Forecaster, try,
¨local result = {string.gmatch(input, '([a-z]*)%s([0-9]*)')}¨ and
see what happens
L1018[08:42:23] <Turtle> I suspect it´s
doing two returns
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L1021[08:42:57] <Turtle> (It´s near the
bottom, under captures)
L1022[08:43:27] <Turtle> hang on, what I
supplied would massively break, whoops
L1023[08:43:45] <Forecaster> it did the
same thing
L1024[08:43:51] <Forecaster> as it did
before
L1025[08:44:17] <Forecaster> why do you
use ¨ as "?
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L1032[08:45:40] <Turtle> Forecaster, idk,
hexchat does it
L1033[08:45:50] <Forecaster> weird
L1034[08:45:54] <Turtle> but uh, I
screwed up
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L1038[08:46:25] <Turtle> local result,
test = string.gmatch(input, '([a-z]*)%s([0-9]*)') and add for val
in test do print(val) end
L1039[08:46:30] <Turtle> Try that
L1040[08:46:47] <Noob> Got disconnected
lol. In case you didn't get my message
L1041[08:46:52] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty:
http://pastebin.com/NzBhp9MM here's "your"
script. Grabs docs, converts to wiki-syntax, spills it out in the
end cause I have no idea how the heck computronics wiki works from
there, so it's up to host
L1043[08:47:27] <Turtle> You
goofed.
L1044[08:47:55] <scj643> My favorite
mobile game is in an encrypted form of lua or a compiled
version
L1045[08:48:18] <Noob> Turtle: Well,
little typos :P But the script itself works doesn't it?
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L1047[08:48:32] <Turtle> you load item,
and item
L1048[08:48:34] <Turtle> not item and
block
L1049[08:48:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob: I
get the feeling that you are trying to proove something. I don't
need that script, send it to Vexatos instead
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L1051[08:49:16] <CodeNinja> NOOB
L1052[08:50:16] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty:
We'll I'm just showing that it doesn't really take much time to do,
nor is it such a big thing lol (most of the time I was just being
stupid with regular expressions cause they didn't want to work
properly)
L1053[08:50:22] <Noob> CodeNinja:
Yeah?
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L1057[08:51:51] <Forecaster> didn't work
:P
L1058[08:52:08] <Turtle> odd, then it´s
not giving multiple returns
L1059[08:52:58] <CodeNinja> You are a
cool person who knows more about JSON files than I do
L1060[08:53:56] <Noob> CodeNinja: Had
luck working with various json-containing projects for several
times lol
L1061[08:54:25] <CodeNinja> I want to set
up custom oregen with CoFH core
L1062[08:55:08] <Noob> Turtle: I've
replaced "item" with "block" in that line and
everything works here lol
L1063[08:55:38] <Turtle> well ya but if
you pull item twice you´d get the item documentation twice
L1064[08:55:43] <Turtle> instead of both
item and block documentation
L1065[08:56:12] <Noob> Turtle: I know and
I told you, I've forgot to change link there thats all -.-
L1066[08:56:57] <CodeNinja> I have to go
make a table with Autodesk 3DS Max
L1067[08:57:07] <Turtle> I just notified
that something was not working in the file you linked
>.>
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L1069[08:58:00] <Forecaster> Turtle: I
managed it with match instead
L1070[08:58:12] <Forecaster> just running
it twice, once for each substring I want
L1071[08:58:14] <Turtle> Forecaster,
alright, figured match would work if you only need two vars
:P
L1072[08:59:22] <Forecaster>
actually
L1073[08:59:45] <Forecaster> wait no,
nevermind
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L1075[08:59:57] <Forecaster> I was going
to say I could pass the recipe and amount as arguments
L1076[09:00:08] <Forecaster> but then I
can't write the list of recipes before you select one
L1077[09:00:49] <Forecaster> though I
could have it print the list if no arguments are passed
L1078[09:01:43] <Turtle> heh
L1079[09:01:53] <Forecaster> hm
L1080[09:02:07] <Forecaster> desitions
desitions...
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L1085[09:15:07] <Kodos> Ugh
L1086[09:15:16] <Kodos> So begins the day
of phone tag with my caseworker at DHS
L1087[09:16:14] <Turtle> Besides AE2, any
other opensource mods that implement their own
dimension/sky/whatever?
L1088[09:16:21] <Kodos>
Galacticraft
L1089[09:16:37] <Turtle> galacticraft is
opensource?
L1091[09:16:51] <Turtle> huhm, TIL
L1093[09:22:26] <Turtle> Kodos: FML his
base worldprovider is not in that repo xD
L1094[09:22:48] <Turtle> Hopefully it´ll
be in the api repo .-.
L1095[09:22:52] <S3> Whee
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L1098[09:24:40] <Turtle> .-. ugh.
micdoodle´s got his own worldprovider interface
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L1100[09:26:43] <S3> I need to buy some
earplugs so that I can listen to my headphones when I'm on the
bus
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L1102[09:27:23] <S3> They work well as
long as there isn't any noise going on that is consistent and
loud
L1103[09:27:39] <S3> But earplugs would
fix that
L1104[09:27:54] <S3> To the hardware
store!
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L1107[09:36:45] <S3> Apt is a virus
L1108[09:36:52] <S3> Hey cruor
L1109[09:37:22] *
Cruor waves
L1110[09:37:24] <Cruor> or
something
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L1113[09:38:28] <S3> Actually they may
have earplugs at the university store... For some program that
needs em...
L1114[09:38:33] <Kodos> Okay, time to
watch shit on Netflix until SE updates
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L1123[10:18:53] <Elizabeth> Home
time
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L1126[10:28:07] <CodeNinja> home is whrer
the cake is
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L1130[10:44:54] <Kodos> Fuck cake, I'm
making pie
L1131[10:45:40] <CodeNinja> No lies for
you
L1132[10:48:29] *
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L1134[10:49:50] <Turtle> I assume you´ve
already heard of the shitstorm?
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L1137[10:50:42] <gamax92> Turtle:
hmm?
L1138[10:51:01] <Turtle> The whole
microtransactions deal
L1139[10:52:13] <gamax92> I have $0
irl
L1140[10:52:40] <Turtle> Yeah, but TLDR:
There are now crates like TF2, with weapon skins, That give stat
boosts
L1141[10:52:46] *
CodeNinja waits for gamax to starve
L1142[10:52:59] <Turtle> The ´unlocks´
can be for weapons you don´t own the dlc for
L1143[10:53:02] <Turtle> so yeaaaah
people are mad
L1144[10:53:41] <gamax92> ahh
L1145[10:53:57] <gamax92> I was gifted a
few dlc packs but idunno
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L1147[10:54:41] <Turtle> TLDR: Everyone
is mad, Jim Sterling got involved, everyone hates overkill
now
L1148[10:54:46] <Turtle> vOv
L1149[10:55:58] <gamax92> CodeNinja: But
I am starving.
L1150[10:56:33] <CodeNinja> here is food:
(|0)
L1151[10:56:38] <CodeNinja>
itsaburger
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L1153[10:56:58] <CodeNinja> sadly ruined
by monospace font in my client
L1154[10:57:22] <gamax92> I also have a
monospace font.
L1156[10:59:27] <Turtle> Context: That is
the sky
L1157[10:59:57] <gamax92> beautiful
weather we're having today, eh Turtle?
L1158[11:00:41] <ds84182> You could say
the sun is bright and quadding today.
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L1162[11:01:51] <CodeNinja> waht does it
llok like
L1163[11:01:58] <CodeNinja> imgur is
blocked here
L1164[11:02:07] <Turtle> a giant white
shipe in the sky
L1165[11:02:09] <gamax92> ;-; lag.
L1166[11:02:21] <Turtle> Working on a
skyrendering implementation and it failed
L1167[11:02:26] <Turtle> *shape
L1168[11:02:34] <gamax92> accidentally
closed tab, takes like 10 seconds for it to re show up, and then 5
seconds for the user list and topic to be populated
L1169[11:02:44] <CodeNinja> lol
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L1171[11:03:27] <gamax92> #p
L1172[11:03:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.110497279 Seconds passed.
L1173[11:05:46] <Elizabeth> and
home
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L1179[11:19:59] <Kodos> Couldn't find
anything good to watch, so I started watching Merlin
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L1184[11:27:12] <CodeNinja> wtf is
that
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L1186[11:29:24] <Kodos> A 5 season TV
show that will hopefully at least last me over the weekend
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L1189[11:32:08] <CodeNinja> wait, there
are people who use Enviromine outside of HQM packs or challenge
maps?
L1190[11:32:15] <CodeNinja>
Apparently...
L1191[11:35:57] <Kodos> Code who are you
talking to
L1192[11:36:36] <CodeNinja> noone
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L1194[11:36:50] <Elizabeth> Kodos, mind
poking me when the SE update drops?
L1195[11:37:02] <Kodos> Elizabeth,
there's a bot that joins #space-engineers when it does
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L1197[11:37:42] <CodeNinja> Let's play:
Accidentally DDOS the space engineers download server by everyone's
rush to download the update
L1198[11:38:02] <Elizabeth> CodeNinja,
steams servers
L1199[11:38:07] <CodeNinja> It happened
to KSP, and Factorio as well I think
L1200[11:38:08] <Elizabeth> it all goes
through steam
L1201[11:38:14] <CodeNinja> i
forgot
L1202[11:38:29] <CodeNinja> There are
some games that are not only on steam
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L1204[11:40:34] <Inari> CodeNinja: at
least you're not Cubic Ninja
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L1212[11:56:20] <Turtle> ... welp I broke
regular rendering too now
L1213[11:56:55] <CodeNinja> oy
L1215[11:57:06] <CodeNinja> EPIC
FAIL
L1216[11:57:30] <CodeNinja> What does it
look like: (imgur blocked by webfilter)
L1217[11:57:54] <Turtle> .-. why do you
call ´EPIC FAIL´ right away then? It´s rendering blocks it
shouldn´t render
L1218[11:58:20] <CodeNinja> you said you
broke MC rendering...that's pretty epic
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L1220[11:59:56] <Lilly_Satou> thats
ridiculously easy
L1221[12:00:12] <Lilly_Satou> i did that
with a single opengl call
L1222[12:00:13] <Lilly_Satou> ezpz
L1223[12:01:06] <Turtle> aparently you
can just return null for a skyhandler and shit won´t break
L1224[12:01:07] <Turtle> vOv
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L1226[12:08:00] <Kodos> Why the hell is
the name CamelBros so familiar
L1227[12:08:02] <S3>
....................
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L1229[12:08:27] <S3>
......loading............... Done.
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L1231[12:09:41] <S3> Extracting kernel
image kodos.gz.............. Identified operating system KOD OS..
Jumping into entry point.
L1232[12:10:33] <S3> Kodos: lol. Had
to.
L1233[12:10:50] <CodeNinja> whas have you
done
L1234[12:12:26] <gamax92> Uncompressing
S3..............................................................
L1235[12:12:32] <gamax92>
..............................................................................
L1236[12:12:35] <S3> Ahhhhhhhhhh
noooo!
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L1238[12:13:23] <S3> Press the ANY key to
continue.
L1239[12:13:50] *
gamax92 prints out the word ANY on a label machine, attaches to
keyboard, presses
L1240[12:14:23] <CodeNinja> lol
L1241[12:14:48] <S3> Loading
templeos-ng..............
L1242[12:15:22] <S3> Gamax92
@holyC%
L1243[12:15:28] <gamax92> NitrousOS
L1244[12:20:12] <S3> Interesting
L1245[12:20:36] <S3> I always wondered
why the best fishing industry is pretty much here in the state of
Maine
L1246[12:20:53] <gamax92> no the best
fishing industry is in Japan, maybe
L1247[12:21:34] <S3> I was talking about
us but ok
L1248[12:21:36] <CodeNinja> When scj643
comes around, would someone poke him about the dupe ore problems
with his pack?
L1249[12:21:46] <S3> It is because Maine
had the largest tufts
L1250[12:21:50] <S3> Tides*
L1251[12:22:12] <gamax92> S3 confirmed to
be S3
L1252[12:22:14] <S3> The gulf of Maine is
almost exactly proportional to the lunar ride 12 hour
rotation.
L1253[12:22:16] <scj643> What
L1254[12:22:24] <S3> Tide*
L1255[12:22:30] <gamax92> Proof: Talking
about Maine
L1257[12:22:36] <Turtle> o.o
L1258[12:22:46] <Turtle> CHROME ALLOWED
YOU TO ENABLE MUTEING TABS BY CLICKING THE ICON?!
L1259[12:22:58] <gamax92> yes but you had
to enable it in the flags
L1260[12:23:00] <S3> What's wrong with
Maine lol
L1261[12:23:04] <Turtle> Yeah just
noticed that .-.
L1262[12:23:06] <gamax92> nothing
L1263[12:23:29] <Turtle> S3: [Insert
hipster joke]
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L1265[12:23:50] <S3> Maine is also right
next to bay of fundi
L1266[12:23:57] <scj643> CodeNinja:
what
L1267[12:23:57] <S3> Which had the
highest ride in the world
L1268[12:24:02] <S3> Tide d damn it
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L1270[12:24:50] <CodeNinja> You did not
disable duplicate oregen. There are like three or four different
types of copper underground.
L1271[12:25:03] <scj643> So what's the
problem with that
L1272[12:25:10] <S3> But the temperature
of the water and location gives us like the best lobster and the
five brings us amazing quantities of awesome fish and
shellfish
L1273[12:25:20] <S3> I just never knew
there was a scientific grain
L1274[12:25:20] <scj643> To late now
since the world is generated
L1275[12:25:22] <CodeNinja> Inventory
space in survival
L1276[12:25:24] <S3> Reason*
L1277[12:25:31] <scj643> Get a forge
lexicon
L1278[12:25:45] <S3> Is that like a
liquid Mexican?
L1279[12:25:45] <CodeNinja> That costs a
diamond, I do not have one
L1280[12:25:48] <S3> Damn it phone
L1281[12:25:58] <gamax92> get a
diamond.
L1282[12:26:05] <S3> Phone what the heck
is a liquid Mexican
L1283[12:26:15] <gamax92> XD
L1284[12:26:18] <gamax92> auto correct
best correct
L1285[12:26:20] <CodeNinja> i went mining
for an hour.
L1286[12:26:23] <scj643> Empower it and
it it will change it
L1287[12:26:33] <gamax92> CodeNinja: then
you're obviously mining in the wrong area.
L1288[12:26:37] <gamax92> diamonds are
errywhere
L1289[12:26:41] <S3> Lol m trying not to
laugh in class
L1290[12:26:50] <CodeNinja> y=just above
lava pools
L1291[12:26:57] <S3> For now on I'm going
to blame liquid mexicana
L1292[12:27:00] <gamax92> yeah wrong
area
L1293[12:27:06] <CodeNinja> did a bunch
of caving
L1294[12:27:12] <CodeNinja> WHERE
THEN
L1295[12:27:14] <S3> Mexicans*
L1296[12:27:23] <scj643> Go strip
mining
L1297[12:27:29] <gamax92> you should mine
in the areas where there are diamodns
L1298[12:27:54] <S3> So are we talking
about scj's mc server?
L1299[12:28:26] <CodeNinja> yes
L1300[12:28:28] <scj643> Go to #scj643 if
it's server specific
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L1302[12:28:40] <CodeNinja> already
tried
L1303[12:28:42] <scj643> But this applies
to mine craft in general
L1304[12:28:51] <gamax92> But this
applies to forge in general
L1305[12:29:01] <scj643> ^^^^^
L1306[12:29:38] <gamax92> Uncompressing
linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
L1307[12:29:52] <scj643> Nice
L1308[12:30:19] *
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L1309[12:33:18] <S3> Man gitlab is
lame
L1310[12:33:23] <Elizabeth> ?
L1311[12:33:30] <gamax92> I've not used
gitlab
L1312[12:36:24] <CodeNinja> scj643: This
applies more to the pack than the server.
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L1315[12:43:55] *
CodeNinja is frustrated
L1316[12:44:07] <Elizabeth> CodeNinja, if
it's about his pack or server, it goes in his channel
L1317[12:44:26] <CodeNinja> Just put it
in his channel
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L1319[12:50:28] <Turtle> gaah. I still
can´t figure out how skyrendering is done .-.
L1320[12:50:52] <gamax92> Turtle: how to
render the sky: render the sky
L1321[12:51:05] <gamax92> JUST DO
IT
L1322[12:51:12] <gamax92> NOTHING IS
IMPOSSIBLE
L1323[12:51:19] <Turtle> but... but I
don´t want to shamelessly copy-paste a generic sky .-.
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L1325[12:53:06] <gamax92> D:<
L1326[12:53:11] <gamax92> wine-staging
has gtk3 support.
L1327[12:53:15] *
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L1329[12:55:11] <Turtle> ... is there
even a generic starry sky from a mod that is opensource? xD
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L1331[12:55:31] <Turtle> (I mean I guess
I could attempt to reverse-engineer RFTools)
L1332[12:56:02] <gamax92> by
reverse-engineer you mean run through BON2 and then
cfr/procyon
L1333[12:56:05] <gamax92> ?
L1334[12:56:16] <Turtle> no?
L1335[12:56:22] <gamax92> then what do
you mean
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L1337[12:57:00] <Turtle> Looking at
RFTools´ source, figuring out which part renders a starry sky, then
copying it´s functinality
L1338[12:57:05] <CodeNinja> is rftools or
mystcraft open-source?
L1339[12:57:58] <Turtle> RFTools is
L1340[12:58:12] <Turtle> Under MIT even I
believe
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L1342[13:00:54]
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L1343[13:01:53] <Turtle> I might actually
´steal´ RFTool´s skycode, this is much better done than the
alternatives I´ve seen
L1344[13:02:16] <Turtle> (And by that I
mean, it´s actually sane, instead of random opengl)
L1345[13:02:21] <gamax92> :P
L1346[13:05:57] <Turtle> ... is minecraft
hardcapped at 1200 fps?
L1347[13:06:04] <Turtle> nope.
L1348[13:06:09] <XDjackieXD> :P
L1349[13:06:16] <CodeNinja> what have you
done?
L1350[13:06:33] <Turtle> small stone
platform with some glowstone
L1351[13:06:42] <Turtle> looking at the
sky -> >1300 FPS without F3 menu
L1352[13:06:46] <Turtle> F3 menu nukes it
down to 500
L1353[13:06:47] <XDjackieXD> :P
L1354[13:06:47] <Turtle> xD
L1355[13:06:59] <Turtle> so yeaaaaah...
yoink.
L1357[13:07:22] <Turtle> For the curious:
Currently running his end sky rendering code
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L1360[13:13:55] <Noob> O-oh, I've tried
to assemble rocket from AR with OC computer stuff. As expected, my
game crashed xD
L1361[13:17:00] <CodeNinja> why does NEI
crash when you try to give yourself items with a full inv?
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L1363[13:17:31] <Turtle> Noob, one if the
reasons I am implementing my own weird spaceship system
L1364[13:17:39] <CodeNinja> Since it just
runs MC commands, does vanilla MC crash when you do /give with a
full inv?
L1365[13:17:54] <CodeNinja> Archemides
ships, ppl
L1366[13:18:05] <Turtle> those are pretty
glitchy
L1368[13:18:14] <Turtle> I FUCKED UP, BUT
I KNOW WHAT I FUCKED UP
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L1370[13:19:18] <Noob> Turtle: Eh, aren't
this coming to AR as well though? Shall I bring here that infamous
xkcd comic about standarts? :P
L1371[13:19:36] <Turtle> I´m doing
something QUITE different than AR :P
L1372[13:19:36] <Noob> Turtle: or that
guy doesn't accept help? lol
L1373[13:19:43] <Noob> Oh I see lol
L1374[13:19:48] <Turtle> but it´d be neat
if AR got OC support
L1376[13:20:03] <dangranos>
seriously
L1377[13:20:04] <Turtle> Noob, I´m not so
much doing rockets as actual spaceships
L1378[13:20:29] <Noob> Turtle: add
integration with GC/AR then unless you got your own celestial
bodies :P
L1379[13:20:36] <Turtle> Noob, I will
attempt to
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L1381[13:21:03] <Turtle> dangranos, hang
on my brain is partially trying to parse this filenotfounderror in
the background, what am I looking at?
L1382[13:21:21] <Forecaster> I wish I had
a lua ide
L1383[13:21:52] <Turtle> Forecaster,
there´s eclipse variations for Lua, there´s Intellij support for
lua
L1384[13:22:09] <Forecaster> that has the
oc api's :P
L1385[13:22:12] <Noob> And I'm pretty
positive that AR may get OC support. So far he's not using
"Our Own Brand Power/Fuel System(tm)" tactic and his mod
doesnt even have it's own energy devices lol
L1386[13:22:47] <Turtle> Forecaster, ah,
should be possible to provide a dummy api for the IDE, and then
test ingame
L1387[13:22:57] <Forecaster> maybe
L1388[13:23:20] <Forecaster> ...only
having 2 monitors sucks
L1389[13:23:23] <Turtle> or you´d need an
OC emulator that runs in the commandline :p
L1390[13:23:28] <Forecaster> >:
L1391[13:23:29] <Turtle> oo my skybox
works
L1392[13:23:45] <Turtle> s/my/´my´/
L1393[13:23:46] <Kibibyte> <Turtle>
oo ´my´ skybox works
L1394[13:24:04] <gamax92> Turtle get
those not quotes out of here.
L1395[13:24:18] <Turtle> ... I have no
idea why hexchat is doing it
L1396[13:24:18] <Turtle> D:
L1397[13:24:20] <Forecaster> better than
¨
L1398[13:24:22] <Forecaster> :P
L1399[13:24:57] <Turtle> yeah I´m pretty
annoyed hexchat uses a diacritical mark over space for quotes
L1400[13:25:32] <Turtle> ... I can do
bullshit like this? ẗ
L1401[13:25:44] <Turtle> ḧ
L1402[13:25:45] <Turtle> wat.
L1403[13:25:59] <gamax92> some unicode
characters are combining characters to do stuff specifically like
that
L1404[13:28:38] <Forecaster> and my
taskbars got thrown around when the third monitor went offline
>:
L1405[13:28:42] <Forecaster> it's all
weird now
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L1407[13:29:41] <Turtle> hmh, aparently
theres a python script that fixes this issue
L1408[13:30:19] <Forecaster> ...dammit,
why does so many plugins have to use the word "evaLUAte"
>:
L1409[13:30:30] <Kodos> Just match case
and search for Lua
L1410[13:30:31] <Turtle> vOv
L1411[13:30:44] <Turtle> What are you
looking a plugin for?
L1412[13:31:24] <Forecaster> case only
affects the highlighting apparently :P
L1413[13:31:44] <Forecaster> Turtle:
IntelliJ
L1414[13:32:07] <Turtle> if python
install doesn´t hog EVERYTHING for a moment here, hang on
L1415[13:32:18] <Forecaster> it wasn't
that hard to spot the proper plugin thought :P
L1416[13:32:48] <Turtle> oh lol
L1417[13:34:21] <Forecaster> oh, pride
and predjudice and zombies trailer
L1418[13:34:58] <Forecaster> hm
L1419[13:35:14] <Forecaster> lua sdk
version "Kahlua" or "LuaJ"
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L1422[13:35:24] <Forecaster> I dunno
which to pick
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L1424[13:35:46] <Turtle> You´re not going
to be running OC code in a lua sdk I´m afraid
L1425[13:36:09] <Forecaster> I
guess
L1426[13:36:14] <Forecaster> it doesn't
affect the syntax?
L1427[13:36:19] <Turtle> Shouldn´t.
L1428[13:36:25] <Forecaster>
hmmm....
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L1430[13:36:27] <Turtle> I would
recommend you just bind it to a minecraft install
L1431[13:36:33] <Turtle> as in, the
SDK/Run config
L1432[13:37:25] <gamax92> :>
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L1437[13:41:58] <Vexatos> new
Computronics version just got released .-.
L1438[13:42:08] <Turtle> Vexatos, what´d
you do
L1439[13:42:12] <Turtle> ...
L1440[13:42:20] <Vexatos> Kodos, has a
gift for you
L1441[13:42:37] <Kodos> wut
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L1443[13:43:12] <Vexatos> Kodos, I heard
you like chat boxes >_>
L1444[13:43:21] <Kodos> I do
L1445[13:43:27] <Vexatos> well there you
go
L1446[13:43:30] <Kodos> Wait, did you
make them colorable?
L1447[13:43:31] <gamax92> Vexatos: brick
beep?
L1448[13:43:33] <Wobbo> o/
L1449[13:43:35] <Vexatos> gamax92, not
yet
L1450[13:43:38] <Elizabeth> ohai
Wobbo
L1451[13:51:21] <Vexatos> Kodos, that's
been in there for months now
L1452[13:51:39] <Vexatos> no, I added an
option to make them work interdimensionally and have no range limit
(the normal ones)
L1453[13:51:50] <Vexatos> The creative
one now has all of that by default
L1454[13:51:59] <Vexatos> no range limit,
works across dimensions.
L1455[13:52:22] <Kodos> Just receiving,
or transmitting too
L1456[13:52:37] <Kodos> Also how do you
color them because right click with dye doesn't work
L1457[13:52:45] <Vexatos> all of it
L1458[13:52:52] <Vexatos> right click
with dye should work
L1459[13:52:53] <Vexatos> like
L1460[13:52:55] <Vexatos> it works for
me
L1461[13:52:57] <Kodos> Weird
L1462[13:52:59] <Vexatos> on a
server
L1463[13:53:01] <scj643> Anyone need
me
L1464[13:53:06] <Elizabeth> no
L1465[13:53:16] <Kodos> Anyway, thanks,
i'll poke Cait to update if she can
L1466[13:53:24] <Kodos> This will make
Dave much more useful
L1467[13:53:31] <Vexatos> exactly
L1468[13:53:34] <Turtle> \o/
starrrsss
L1469[13:53:34] <Kodos> Since I got him
working with other things going simultaneously
L1470[13:53:36] <Vexatos> which is why I
pinged you
L1471[13:53:40] <Kodos> Thanks to the
event sample code
L1472[13:53:55] <Vexatos> creative chat
box can't be dyed btw
L1473[13:53:58] <Kodos> I know
L1474[13:54:05] <Vexatos> only the blocks
in Computronics which are grey-ish by default can
L1475[13:54:11] <Kodos> But if the
regular one can have the same functionality, I'll just dye it
L1476[13:54:18] <Vexatos> Mind
L1477[13:54:26] <Vexatos> the
magenta-dyed chat box has a different colour
L1478[13:54:29] <Vexatos> than the
creative chat box
L1479[13:54:36] <Kodos> I dye my shit
gray
L1480[13:54:37] <Vexatos> I intentionally
made the magenta a different one
L1481[13:54:39] <Vexatos> :P
L1482[13:55:17] <Vexatos> For the normal
chat box you need to enable makeMagical in the config
L1483[13:55:26] <Vexatos> it basically
turns the craftable chat box into a creative chat box
L1484[13:55:37] <Vexatos> because some
people just wanted to use the creative one
L1485[13:55:44] <Vexatos> without being
called a cheater >_>
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L1487[13:59:27] <Kodos> Meh, I just like
being able to do stuff
L1488[13:59:43] <Kodos> Right now, the
program Dave is running in is a clusterfuck of code, and I tried
reorganizing it, but it broke Dave
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L1493[14:07:08] <Vexatos> ok
L1496[14:18:38] <Skye|Tired> #p
L1497[14:18:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
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L1501[14:48:05] <Forecaster> what was the
method for returning a components methods?
L1502[14:48:10] <Forecaster> I've
forgotten...
L1503[14:48:39] <Turtle> just proxy it
and iterate the table it returns?
L1504[14:49:09] <Kodos> Or use my dump
method, found in my lib
L1505[14:49:15] <Turtle>
component.methods
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L1510[14:57:02] <jhagrid77_> ... did
people change their name, or leave? ...
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L1512[14:57:18] <Kodos> Who are you
looking for?
L1513[14:57:18] <scj643> Well my server
has multiple of the same ore because I didn't know how to change
it
L1514[14:57:49] <Forecaster>
component.transposer.methods returns nil...
L1515[14:58:08] <Kodos> ~w component
API
L1517[14:58:08] <gamax92> because that's
not how you query methods on a proxy
L1518[14:58:43] <Forecaster> ah
L1519[14:58:46] <jhagrid77_> Just
wondering as I usually see Lizzy here
L1520[14:59:10] <Kodos> She's still
here.
L1521[15:00:14] <Forecaster> is there a
quick way of emptying a file without having to delete it and make a
new one?
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L1524[15:00:57] <Kodos> Not really
L1525[15:01:03] <Forecaster> darn
L1526[15:01:15] <Wobbo> opening it in
write mode should do the trick right?
L1527[15:01:27] <Forecaster> from the
commandline
L1528[15:01:32] <Wobbo> Nope
L1529[15:02:04] <Wobbo> but you can write
a program that does that
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L1531[15:04:46] <CodeNinja> hey look,
someone uses DOS still? OK...
L1532[15:04:53] <CodeNinja> del *.*
L1533[15:05:28] <jhagrid77_> Ubuntu for
the win
L1534[15:06:06] <jhagrid77_> temped to
put my 400gb windows 7 partition to 50gb and put the rest in
Ubuntu
L1535[15:06:45] <scj643> Windows will
kill itself with 50 GB
L1536[15:07:11] <Kodos> I gave my windows
partition half a terabyte
L1537[15:07:43] <CodeNinja> I gave my
windows partition an entire terabyte, as I have no other
partition
L1538[15:07:55] <Kodos> Elizabeth,
Caitlyn SE Updated
L1539[15:08:03] <Forecaster> :O
L1540[15:08:04] <Forecaster>
finally
L1541[15:08:13] <Kodos> No planets
L1542[15:08:19] <Kodos> Big
surprise
L1543[15:08:35] <Forecaster> but hydrogen
thrusters!
L1544[15:08:36] <Forecaster> :D
L1545[15:08:56] <Elizabeth> the new doors
look cool
L1546[15:09:02] <Kodos> Still trying to
load the video
L1547[15:10:33] <Forecaster> nice
L1548[15:13:56] <Kodos> Holy fucking
shit
L1549[15:13:58] <Kodos> >We have also
added the ability for modders to create custom fuels and custom
thrusters that require the fuel.
L1550[15:14:17] <Forecaster> I didn't get
to that bit yet
L1551[15:14:28] <Forecaster> there we
are
L1552[15:15:21] <scj643> Wow
L1553[15:16:04] <CodeNinja> what do the
hydrogen thrusters use, ice run thru a new machine?
L1554[15:16:05] <Forecaster> hm, if the
jetpack is hydrogen powered now they should change the color of the
flames :P
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L1556[15:16:27] <Kodos> CodeNinja, same
machine as before, you just get hydrogen too
L1557[15:16:50] <CodeNinja> So the oxygen
generator also generates and stores hydrogen.
L1558[15:16:57] *
Elizabeth wants to see Avenger's helicarrier engines after planets,
with a way to put them into 'generation mode' which you can use
when decending to the planet to get a bit of an electrical
boost
L1559[15:17:47] <Forecaster> did the
video actually say what the inertial dampener change was?
L1560[15:17:54] <Elizabeth> nope
L1561[15:18:06] <Turtle> Elizabeth, I can
only imagine that ending in a ¨Oops. Fucked up the
autorotate.¨
L1562[15:18:56] <Elizabeth> eh?
L1563[15:19:14] <jhagrid77_> Man I wish I
could use the mods I have in 1.8 so that I could play the latest
Open Computers
L1564[15:19:16] <scj643> Codeninja I have
multiples of the same ore because I didn't know how to combine it
into one
L1565[15:19:31] <Turtle> Spinning up
helicopter blades by falling down, it´s called autorotation
L1566[15:21:20] <CodeNinja> scj643: Go
into the configs and disable oregen for every type of ore except
one
L1567[15:21:32] <scj643> Too late
now
L1568[15:21:41] <scj643> Already have my
world
L1569[15:21:55] <scj643> I would have to
world edit every single chunk
L1570[15:22:03] <scj643> Or have empty
pockets
L1571[15:22:04] <CodeNinja> Not too late.
Push a pack update, because stuff like this makes you and your pack
look bad.
L1572[15:22:13] <scj643> Ok
L1573[15:22:19] <Turtle> Wait what is the
problem here?
L1574[15:22:22] <scj643> Damn have to
make another update
L1575[15:22:34] <CodeNinja> He never
disabled duplicate oregen
L1576[15:23:02] <scj643> Is that really
an issue though
L1577[15:23:06] <Turtle> If it´s just the
issue of having 5 million types of ore, instead of double the
amount, CoFH´s forgelexicon has an option to convert all
ores/ingots/whatever to a specific forgedictionary equivalent
iirc
L1578[15:23:22] <Turtle> as in, when you
pick them up
L1579[15:23:36] <scj643> Yeah
L1580[15:23:40] <CodeNinja> Except unless
you want to add minetweaker the forge lexicon is expensive
earlygame, when stuff like this matters more
L1581[15:23:49] <Elizabeth> Turtle, err,
did you watch the avengers?
L1582[15:23:58] <Turtle> Elizabeth,
ya?
L1583[15:24:07] <Turtle> I don´t quite
get what you ment then I guess
L1584[15:24:15] <scj643> CodeNinja just
deal with it
L1586[15:24:36] <MichiBot> Elizabeth:
Marvel's The Avengers - Clip: Helicarrier (2012) | HD |
length:
2m 1s | Likes:
503
Dislikes:
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by
UltimateHDVideostify
L1587[15:25:04] <scj643> I can make you
one if your really hate multiple ores
L1588[15:25:06] <CodeNinja> Ill do the
configs myself and post them to the OneNote server doc.
L1589[15:25:16] <scj643> Ok
L1590[15:25:51] <Turtle> Elizabeth, yeah
not quite sure what you ment, if you mean dropping through the
atmosphere to spin up the blades, that´s autorotation
L1591[15:26:10] <Elizabeth> eh?
L1592[15:26:27] <Turtle> Wikipedia:
¨Autorotation is a state of flight in which the main rotor system
of a helicopter or similar aircraft turns by the action of air
moving up through the rotor, as with an autogyro, rather than
engine power driving the rotor.¨
L1593[15:26:49] <Elizabeth> ah
L1594[15:27:54] <jhagrid77_> scj643: have
you found 1.8 versions of the mods in your mod pack?
L1595[15:28:00] <scj643> Nope
L1596[15:28:16] <jhagrid77_> darn
L1597[15:28:26] <Turtle> It´s generally
used when a helicopter engine fails as last resort, to spin up the
rotor (Then turn the blades to provide lift at the last
moment)
L1598[15:30:27] <Forecaster> you can do
== nil right?
L1599[15:30:39] <Elizabeth> yes
L1600[15:30:44] <Forecaster> good
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L1602[15:31:21] <CodeNinja> Many of the
mods scj643 is using have stated that they will not update until
1.9 or depend on mods that have stated this
L1603[15:31:57] <Forecaster> but not !=
nil
L1604[15:32:01] <jhagrid77_> Anyone got a
good Open Computers world?
L1605[15:32:11] <Turtle> Forecaster, use
~= nil
L1606[15:32:16] <jhagrid77_> or could
link me to one with potential?
L1607[15:32:29] <Inari> "open
computers world"?
L1608[15:32:47] <jhagrid77_> Like a good
server setup etc...
L1609[15:33:08] <Inari> i have no clue
what you mean
L1610[15:33:20] <Inari> oh
L1611[15:33:32] <Inari> a setup of OC
servers :P not a setup for aserver thar tuns OC
L1612[15:33:40] <Inari> so like a
tutorial map?.?
L1613[15:33:52] <jhagrid77_> Ehh just a
good world
L1614[15:34:13] <jhagrid77_> I make
superflat worlds but it gets annoying after awhile
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L1616[15:34:58] <CodeNinja> try an
amplified world type
L1617[15:35:13] <CodeNinja> its the polar
opposite of superflat
L1618[15:36:04] <jhagrid77_>
"Requires beefy computer" please explain
L1619[15:37:46] <Turtle> more block faces
to render because of the higher variation in height
L1620[15:37:52] <CodeNinja> My computer
isn't "beefy" by any standards, I only get 30FPS, but I
can gen an amplified world
L1621[15:37:56] <scj643> Double
chunks
L1622[15:38:02] <CodeNinja> and run it
too
L1623[15:38:11] <Turtle> scj643, wait, it
has double chunks?
L1624[15:38:12] <scj643> It has twice the
world size
L1625[15:38:24] <CodeNinja> and run it
too
L1626[15:38:27] <scj643> Once you hit 129
it saves another chunk layer
L1627[15:38:45] <scj643> That's why the
server has a build limit option
L1628[15:38:45] <CodeNinja> really?
L1629[15:38:48] <jhagrid77_> I mean im
running a Toshiba Satellite L755-S5112 laptop with Ubuntu, on stock
I don't think a core i3 proccessor, 4 gb + 8gb swap ram and an
Intel HD 4000 (windows anyways)
L1630[15:38:50] <scj643> Yes
L1631[15:38:54] <CodeNinja>
that's...interesting
L1632[15:39:19] <Turtle> but chunks go up
to 255 don´t they?
L1633[15:39:21] <Elizabeth> CodeNinja,
Anvil is basically a hack on the old mcregion format
L1634[15:39:28] <Elizabeth> Turtle,
256
L1635[15:39:44] <Turtle> yeah but the
lowest block is 0 because programming
L1636[15:39:52] <Elizabeth> old height
was 128 before MC 1.2.X i believe
L1637[15:40:29] <CodeNinja> what does
railcraft have in the way of oregen?
L1638[15:40:30] <scj643> Yeah they added
a second layer above that
L1639[15:40:37] <scj643> Yes it
does
L1640[15:40:41] <scj643> Poor ore
L1641[15:40:45] <Elizabeth> CodeNinja,
sulfur
L1642[15:40:50] <Forecaster> and
saltpeter
L1643[15:40:54] <scj643> That to ^^
L1644[15:41:07] <Forecaster> it also
generates rock deposits
L1645[15:41:11] <CodeNinja> OK, so
nothing generic like normal copper or lead
L1646[15:41:21] *
Elizabeth forgot that Forecaster was here who knows RC as good as
CJ
L1647[15:41:21] <Forecaster> quarried
stone, and abyssal stone in oceans
L1648[15:41:21] <scj643> Except poor
or
L1649[15:41:35] <Forecaster> the latter
can contain ores
L1650[15:42:05] <Forecaster> CodeNinja:
poor ores are of the same types as normal ores
L1651[15:42:11] <scj643> I'm going to be
sticking with our configs you can never have enough ore in modded
mine craft
L1652[15:42:12] <S3> So there should be s
miss that implements ice picks
L1653[15:42:12] <S3> Which is you kill a
zombie with an ice pick the chance of a zombie brain drop
increases
L1654[15:42:20] <CodeNinja> augh, the
names of engineer's toolbox ores
L1656[15:42:29] <Turtle> Did railcraft
stop using fake airblocks yet?
L1657[15:42:35] <Forecaster> no
L1658[15:42:43] <CodeNinja> wtf is
cassiterite?
L1659[15:42:45] <scj643> What about fake
air blocks for what
L1660[15:42:50] <Turtle> Tracking
players
L1661[15:42:54] <Elizabeth> also scj643
and CodeNinja, if you're talking about scj643's server please take
it into another channel
L1662[15:42:55] <scj643> Oh
L1663[15:43:03] <Turtle> It (used to)
screw up multiblock tanks a while ago
L1664[15:43:10] <Turtle> not sure if
people fixed their tanks yet
L1665[15:43:14] <Forecaster> because
nobody used isAir
L1666[15:43:19] <CodeNinja> Mostly I'm
asking for help about ores
L1667[15:43:20] <Forecaster> verybody
does now
L1668[15:43:27] <Forecaster>
everybody*
L1669[15:43:51] <scj643> For some strange
reason ae2 version checker likes to crash when launching
L1670[15:44:04] <scj643> Xcb unknown
request
L1671[15:44:16] <S3> Codeninja: it's a
type of coodies you can catch from somebody named Cassy in any
class
L1672[15:44:29] <S3> You don't want
it
L1673[15:44:45] <Forecaster> isn't that
cassitis?
L1674[15:44:51] <CodeNinja> I'm trying to
disable duplicate oregen in configs, be helpful for crying out
loud
L1675[15:44:51] <scj643> S3 what's your
opinion on multiple ores
L1676[15:45:05] <S3> No idea what you
mean
L1677[15:45:16] <scj643> Having different
mods with the same ore
L1678[15:45:25] <S3> Forge usually takes
care of it
L1679[15:45:31] <CodeNinja> Not going
thru the cfg's and disabling oregen for all but one of each type of
ore
L1680[15:45:36] <S3> It does a damn good
job
L1681[15:45:43] <Forecaster> forge
doesn't do that...
L1682[15:45:47] <CodeNinja>
/sarcasm
L1683[15:46:18] <scj643> CodeNinja your
wasting your time I don't want random air blocks in my world
L1684[15:46:58] <S3> Scj: you should
probably listen to what Elizabeth demands
L1685[15:47:01] <Elizabeth> S3, all forge
does is provide the ore dictionary so you can have 2 types of
copper and they both work in recipes
L1686[15:47:31] <S3> Elizabeth: that's
what I'm talking about
L1687[15:47:32] <scj643> And can be
converted with forge lexicon from Thermal something
L1688[15:47:39] <Elizabeth> oh look, one
of the APs went down at my work. oh well
L1689[15:47:50] <Forecaster> APs?
L1690[15:47:55] <Elizabeth> Access
Point
L1691[15:47:58] <Forecaster> ah
L1692[15:48:05] <Elizabeth> specifically
a Cisco Meraki AP
L1693[15:48:25] <S3> This is what happens
when you use access points that do more than ap? :P
L1694[15:49:01] <Elizabeth> no the AP in
question is at a remote site that connects back to the main sites
via a VPN
L1695[15:49:06] <Elizabeth> the VPN dies
a lot
L1696[15:49:15] <S3> Ouch.
L1697[15:49:24] <Forecaster> hm, can a
function call itself in lua?
L1698[15:49:38] <S3> Ipsec? Openvpn?
Tinc?
L1699[15:49:57] <Elizabeth> we should
have gotten a proper line in but BT want loads of money for a
cockup on their part
L1700[15:50:02] <Elizabeth> S3, dell
sonic wall
L1701[15:50:13] *
S3 screams!
L1702[15:50:43] <Elizabeth> I might
suggest SoftEther to my boss (network specialist) tomorrow cause
that may be a darn sight more reliable
L1703[15:50:55] <scj643> Nice
L1704[15:51:12] <scj643> I get notified
if softether is mentioned :D
L1705[15:51:17] <Elizabeth> .-.
L1706[15:51:41] <scj643> Sonic walls
suck
L1707[15:51:42] <Forecaster> some advice
above lua question please?
L1708[15:51:50] <Forecaster>
someone*
L1709[15:52:00] <Forecaster> advice on*
dammit
L1710[15:52:06] <Izaya> it cam
L1711[15:52:08] <Elizabeth> Forecaster,
it probably could, but then you'd have infinite recusion to deal
with
L1712[15:52:12] <Izaya> can
L1713[15:52:17] <scj643> Codeninja free
forge lexicon
L1714[15:52:24] <S3> I don't know why
people think sonic wall is so great
L1715[15:52:24] <S3> It's like people are
absolutely unaware of how those things aren't as rugged as people
believe then to be
L1716[15:52:24] <S3> And we process this
at my campus
L1717[15:52:26] <S3> Proved,*
L1718[15:52:36] <Forecaster> I can deal
with recursion
L1719[15:52:38] <Izaya> but then you'd
overflow the stack
L1720[15:52:51] <scj643> And get your OC
killed
L1721[15:52:53] <Elizabeth> S3, the one
we have at the remote site randomly thinks it needs to dial a
dialup connection
L1722[15:52:53] <Forecaster> it'd be
condition of course
L1723[15:53:06] <Elizabeth> even though
it doesn't have any modems on it
L1724[15:53:09] <Izaya> sonic wall?
L1725[15:53:17] <Forecaster> it's for
crafting things that need other craftable components
L1726[15:53:19] <S3> I can't speak a
whole lot for the new ones but the old ones had really nasty
exploits
L1727[15:53:39] <Elizabeth> Izaya, crappy
vpn 'soloution' from dell
L1728[15:53:47] <Izaya> oh
L1729[15:53:49] <Izaya> dell
L1730[15:53:49] <Izaya> k
L1731[15:53:52] *
Kodos is || this close to kicking the shit out of someone
randomly
L1732[15:54:04] <Elizabeth> dell make
fairly good at servers, vpns, not so much
L1733[15:54:33] <Forecaster> Kodos: zero
blankspaces?
L1734[15:54:50] <Izaya> I haven't really
played with any functional Dell servers
L1735[15:55:08] <Izaya> My first desktop
was a dell though
L1736[15:55:33] <S3> Before I had to come
in and help it take a look at it it was all fun and games until all
it took was some Chinese kid in the dorms started hijacking
everyone's ssl connections
L1737[15:56:12] <Elizabeth> lol
L1738[15:56:18] <S3> Thanks to some
stupid simple cookie stealing exploit that let you grab an active
administrator session
L1739[15:56:34] <S3> Without getting
access to the client logged in
L1740[15:56:56] <Forecaster> I might need
more than 2 t1 ram cards to run this program when it's done
:P
L1741[15:57:11] <S3> But it was also
looking while ago
L1742[15:57:15] <S3> Older del
hardware
L1743[15:57:19] <S3> Dell*
L1744[15:58:15] <S3> A long while
ago*
L1745[15:58:48] <Inari> in a galaxy far,
far away
L1746[15:59:19] <Elizabeth> .stats
L1748[15:59:27] <S3> The other thing that
was stupid was it over there. They required that everyone install
their root CA so that they could mitm all of your ssl connections.
Which of why they were able to hijack them
L1749[15:59:30] <Elizabeth> oh, that AP
just came back up
L1750[16:00:48] <Forecaster> aw, I'm not
listed >:
L1751[16:01:03] <Elizabeth> you are
L1752[16:01:04] <S3> Either way everyone
talks about how much they love sonic wall and I always give them
dirty looks :P
L1753[16:01:10] <Elizabeth> in the
"these didn't make it to the top"
L1754[16:01:17] <Forecaster> > -
>
L1755[16:01:43] <Forecaster> I'd be on
the "time connected" list if there was one >:
L1756[16:02:21] <Elizabeth> theres times
joined down the bottom, but asie currently holds that with
2295
L1757[16:02:40] *
Izaya grins
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L1759[16:03:13] <Izaya> I can get a
non-fire-hazard cisco cable today
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L1761[16:04:00] <Forecaster> that's the
opposite :P
L1762[16:04:38] <Forecaster> my server
has a ~98% uptime, thus my irc connection does as well
L1763[16:05:12] <Izaya> As does a lot of
people here
L1764[16:05:29] <Forecaster> there should
be a stat for it!
L1765[16:05:37] <Izaya> ... great
english, me
L1766[16:05:53] <Ender> 23:05:53 up 33
days, 22:50, 4 users, load average: 1.27, 1.44, 1.46
L1767[16:05:53] <Forecaster> me fail
english?!
L1768[16:06:09] <Turtle> That´s
unpossible.
L1769[16:06:20] <Forecaster> ^^
L1770[16:06:23] <Turtle> :p
L1771[16:06:41] <Elizabeth> 21:06:41 up
143 days, 6:24, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.08, 0.07
L1772[16:07:18] <Forecaster> my current
uptime is only 8 days due to a power failure >:
L1773[16:07:22] <CodeNinja> Can someone
come over to #ftb and help with a pair of unrelated server
crashes?
L1774[16:07:48] <Forecaster> or well, not
failure, they had to turn the power of for maintenance
L1775[16:07:49] <Elizabeth> my laptop has
about 12 days uptime (i think) as it's not been shut down since i
got it
L1776[16:08:05] <Forecaster> grass had
grown into a substation nearby
L1777[16:08:17] <Izaya> ... wat
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L1779[16:08:41] <Elizabeth> .load
L1780[16:08:41] <EnderBot2> CPU: 1.4 1.37
1.43 , RAM: 9.9G/31.3G (~31.6%), SWAP: 139.2M/88.2G (~0.2%)
L1781[16:08:52] <Elizabeth> that usage
though
L1782[16:09:04] <Elizabeth> i'm talking
about the ram, not the swap
L1783[16:09:14] <Forecaster> someone came
rang on the door last week, said they'd be turning the power off to
remove grass from a substation
L1784[16:09:32] <S3> And they wonder why
and deny all problems
L1785[16:10:40] <Forecaster> dammit
L1786[16:10:44] <Forecaster> I've died
303 times now
L1787[16:10:58] <Elizabeth> that's the
ram usage with 3 VMs with a max of 2GB each (two of which probably
run mc servers), Temia's mc server if it's still up, my test mc
server, gitlab and a few other things
L1788[16:11:09] <Forecaster> I died of
thirst because I got distracted programming
L1789[16:11:13] <CodeNinja> lol
L1790[16:11:39] <CodeNinja> I watched
your latest vid and was suprised you used enviromine
L1791[16:11:53] <CodeNinja> do you have
physics enabled?
L1792[16:11:58] <Forecaster> yes
L1793[16:12:18] <Elizabeth> enviromine's
physics are not fun ina cave world
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L1795[16:12:46] <CodeNinja> nope
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L1797[16:13:20] <Forecaster> envmine
makes building things a lot more interesting
L1798[16:13:42] <Elizabeth> Forecaster,
what FPS do you record your videos at?
L1799[16:13:51] <Forecaster> uh
L1800[16:13:58] <Forecaster> 30*
L1801[16:14:05] <Forecaster> *when my
minecraft actually runs at 30
L1802[16:14:23] <Elizabeth> cause the
video seems slightly choppy which is kinda hard to watch for long
periods of time
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L1804[16:14:59] <Forecaster> my computer
isn't well unfortunately
L1805[16:15:09] <Elizabeth> ah
L1806[16:15:18] <Forecaster> my video
card is failing
L1807[16:16:11] <Elizabeth> anyway, i
need to go to bed
L1808[16:16:23] <Forecaster> night
L1809[16:16:37] <Elizabeth> o/
L1810[16:17:08] <CodeNinja> is someone
here that could help in #oc with a server start failure
L1811[16:17:14] <CodeNinja> oops
#ftb
L1812[16:17:18] <Elizabeth> no
L1813[16:17:24] <Elizabeth> ask #ftb to
help
L1815[16:17:34] <Forecaster> this happens
occationally
L1816[16:17:48] <Forecaster> which is
probably maybe a sign of a failing video card, probably
L1817[16:17:49] <Elizabeth> :/
L1818[16:18:00] <Elizabeth> what card do
you have?
L1819[16:18:25] <Forecaster> GTX 750ti or
something like that
L1820[16:18:34] <Elizabeth> ah
L1821[16:19:02] <Forecaster> I forget the
number
L1822[16:19:30] <Elizabeth> really going
now
L1823[16:19:59] <Forecaster> yeah,
750
L1824[16:21:32] <Forecaster> hm, well,
the program ran... but it didn't do anything...
L1825[16:21:33] <Forecaster> debug
time
L1826[16:22:19] <Turtle> Check
temperature
L1827[16:22:25] <Turtle> That is a card
issue
L1828[16:23:13] <Forecaster> I used to
have a temperature monitoring program
L1829[16:23:19] <Forecaster> I forget
what happened to that
L1830[16:23:39] <Turtle> I have used
GPU-Z in the past, but it caused a driver crash or two though
L1831[16:23:53] <Turtle> (That was with
an AMD card which is now dead though)
L1832[16:24:31] <Izaya> MSI Afterburner
with the remote monitoring thing
L1833[16:24:50] <Izaya> hooked up my
tablet below my monitors
L1834[16:24:59] <Turtle> But yeah those
squares are a somewhat common nvidia artifact
L1835[16:25:04] <Turtle> so you need to
check your temperature
L1836[16:25:20] <Forecaster> the image
also flickers sometimes on the some monitors
L1837[16:25:34] <Forecaster> -the
L1838[16:25:37] <Turtle> Run a
temperature monitoring tool
L1839[16:25:42] <Turtle> Be it GPU-Z or
afterburner
L1840[16:25:57] <Turtle> or just feel the
exhaust without blocking it
L1841[16:28:11] <Turtle> If it´s near 95
degrees, you have a problem.
L1842[16:28:35] <Forecaster> problem
right now... winrar window stuck off-screen...
L1843[16:28:44] <Forecaster> because a
monitor is disconnected
L1844[16:28:57] <Forecaster> need to
remember how to rescue off-screen windows
L1845[16:29:23] <XDjackieXD> on Gnome3 it
is alt+space. idk the "move window"-shortcut for win
though...
L1846[16:29:35] <CodeNinja> also
alt+space
L1847[16:29:48] <XDjackieXD> try
maximising the windows through the taskbar
L1848[16:29:57] <Forecaster> got it
L1849[16:30:11] <jhagrid77_> SO i got
this error Description: Ticking memory connection
java.lang.NegativeArraySizeException how do I fix it?
L1850[16:30:11] <Forecaster> alt + space,
m
L1851[16:30:16] <Forecaster> gets it into
move mode
L1852[16:31:18] <Turtle> jhagrid77_,
where did you get it?
L1853[16:32:31] <jhagrid77_> Define
where
L1854[16:32:36] <Turtle> ...
L1855[16:32:41] <jhagrid77_> Like where I
was when it crashed
L1856[16:32:43] <Turtle> Where did it
show you the error
L1857[16:32:48] <Turtle> in a
crashlog?
L1858[16:32:51] <jhagrid77_> Yes
L1859[16:32:56] <Turtle> Did the
minecraft game crash
L1860[16:33:07] <Turtle> alright, I want
two things, A) The entire crashlog, B) What were you doing when it
crashed
L1862[16:34:19] <jhagrid77_> I was
placing hard drives into RAIDS
L1863[16:34:43] <Turtle> Are you running
a dev build?
L1864[16:35:04] <jhagrid77_> No
L1865[16:35:06] <Forecaster> GPU
temperature: 35...
L1866[16:35:20] <jhagrid77_> The latest
1.7.10 build
L1867[16:35:37] <Turtle> Forecaster, do
you get the artifacts when running a game? If so, you could start
up said game again
L1868[16:35:42] <Turtle> jhagrid77_,
odd.
L1869[16:35:56] <Forecaster> it's
happened when running minecraft
L1870[16:36:03] <Forecaster> but it's
also happened when not running minecraft
L1871[16:36:15] <Turtle> If you can risk
it, keep monitoring the temperature to see if it´s going up
L1872[16:36:43] <Forecaster> I've had
minecraft running for hours now...
L1873[16:36:47] <Forecaster> it's at
34
L1874[16:37:13] <Forecaster> well,
~36
L1875[16:38:03] <jhagrid77_> How do you
monitor it on Ubuntu (Version 14.04.3 LTS)
L1876[16:38:30] <Turtle> jhagrid77_, gpu
temperature? idk
L1877[16:38:55] <Turtle> jhagrid77_, try
breaking the raid and replacing it
L1878[16:39:07] <Turtle> (This will wipe
any data on the raid I believe)
L1879[16:39:55] <jhagrid77_> Wait I think
i know why its crashing, I'm placing 10gb unmanaged HDDs into
them
L1880[16:40:12] <Turtle> Err, there´s no
10GB unmanaged HDDs in OC?
L1881[16:40:26] <jhagrid77_> There is if
you mod the config file XD
L1882[16:40:34] <Turtle> Yeah don´t do
that
L1883[16:40:37] <Turtle> you integer
overflowed
L1884[16:40:56] <jhagrid77_> Although I
think I will get rid of the raids considering my servers would then
be overpowered
L1885[16:41:02] <Turtle> can you do me a
favor and give me the config file? :P
L1886[16:41:20] <jhagrid77_> Where you
want me to upload it to?
L1887[16:41:25] <Turtle> pastebin is
fine
L1889[16:42:38] <jhagrid77_> might have
to delete the #s as I think its only a ubuntu thing
L1890[16:43:59] <Forecaster> temp still
at ~35
L1891[16:44:00] <Turtle> For HDD size,
stay under 2147483 kB
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L1893[16:44:25] <Turtle> you were
actually overflowing several times, so I would highly advise you to
not make 10GB OC filesystems
L1894[16:44:28] <Turtle> you won´t need
them anyway
L1895[16:45:32] <scj643> Lol
L1896[16:45:42] <scj643> Your nuts
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L1898[16:47:38] <Turtle> jhagrid77_, I´m
throwing it up as an issue on the OC github, so you won´t have to,
k?
L1899[16:48:19] <scj643> Why would you
need a file system that damn big
L1900[16:48:38] <CompanionCube> anyone
here with TalkTalk?
L1901[16:48:47] <Turtle> Not, but Sangar
will probably want to limit the size to avoid overflows
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L1903[16:49:23] <Turtle> (I feel pretty
smug for figuring out it was an overflow error though :P)
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L1905[16:51:23] <Forecaster> the heck is
TalkTalk?
L1906[16:51:31] <CompanionCube> UK
ISP
L1907[16:51:40] <CompanionCube> that
recently got rekt by hackers
L1908[16:51:40] <Forecaster> ah
L1909[16:51:53] <CompanionCube> certain
data might be leaked
L1910[16:52:47] <CompanionCube>
Forecaster, they had the balls to say that some passwords may not
have been encrypted/hashed
L1911[16:53:13] <Forecaster> what
L1913[16:56:09] <Forecaster> ...
L1914[16:57:02] <scj643> They are really
stupid
L1915[16:57:20] <CodeNinja> At least they
admitted it
L1916[16:59:01] <scj643> Code ninja you
still trying to change the configs
L1917[16:59:30] <scj643> Codeninja?
L1918[16:59:31] <CodeNinja> yes
L1919[16:59:39] <CodeNinja> Patience, old
one
L1920[16:59:40] <scj643> Your wasting
time
L1921[16:59:49] <CodeNinja> yes I
am
L1922[16:59:55] <CodeNinja> why?
L1923[16:59:55] <scj643> I'm not changing
the configs it would really mess up the world
L1924[16:59:59] <Izaya> you're*
L1925[17:00:08] <CodeNinja> well, then I
wont do them
L1926[17:00:12] <scj643> Ok
L1927[17:00:23] <scj643> Also free forge
lexicons at spawn
L1928[17:00:31] <CodeNinja> Why no TiCon,
btw?
L1929[17:00:47] <scj643> See no point in
it
L1930[17:00:54] <scj643> A computer can't
interact with it
L1931[17:01:06] <CodeNinja> arrgghhh, I
will miss my hammer
L1932[17:01:49] <Kodos> Use #scj643 for
server talk, any further discussion about it here will be
considered spam and treated as such
L1934[17:02:12] <Kodos> You guys have
been warned time and again
L1935[17:02:13] <scj643> Sorry
L1936[17:02:24] <CodeNinja> I
apologize
L1937[17:02:47] <scj643> Get on the MC
server if you can
L1938[17:03:01] <Kodos> Seriously?
L1939[17:03:36] <scj643> Sorry
L1940[17:03:46] <CodeNinja> there, I used
the appropriate channel
L1941[17:03:49] <scj643> Last time
L1943[17:04:04] *
CompanionCube hugs Kodos
L1944[17:04:14] <Forecaster> recipes
should be accessible inside the function right?
L1945[17:04:23] <Forecaster> or do I need
to do something to make it such?
L1946[17:04:28] <jhagrid77_> Ok so I have
a question, I have correctly done a case etc... when I hook up a
screen and keyboard it isn't showing any text as if the monitor
isnt active
L1947[17:04:44] <Forecaster> did you turn
the computer on?
L1948[17:04:50] <scj643> Got a gpu
L1949[17:04:55] <scj643> Or apu
L1950[17:05:02] <Forecaster> graphics
card
L1951[17:05:31] <jhagrid77_> Yes
L1952[17:05:37] <Forecaster> of the same
tier or higher than the screen?
L1953[17:05:38] <jhagrid77_> and it
crashed from low memory
L1954[17:05:57] <jhagrid77_> It is a
creative case, with creative/tier 3 items
L1955[17:06:13] <Forecaster> is the
screen touching the computer?
L1956[17:06:23] <Forecaster> or connected
with a cable?
L1957[17:06:27] <jhagrid77_> First yes
then I used a cable
L1958[17:07:13] <Forecaster> take a
screenshot of your setup
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L1960[17:07:49] <scj643> Anyone good with
railcraft
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L1965[17:09:47] <scj643> I find it funny
that no new updates for CC have been made
L1966[17:09:51] <jhagrid77> Well that was
crazy, my computer turned itself up
L1967[17:09:57] <scj643> Last update was
CC edu
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L1969[17:11:01] <jhagrid77> So what were
you saying?
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L1973[17:14:09] <Forecaster> \o/
L1974[17:14:11] <Forecaster> it
worked!
L1975[17:14:17] <Forecaster> the program
crafted things!
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L1977[17:14:40] <scj643> Nice
L1978[17:15:00] <scj643> Now make it open
source and put on your choice of hosting
L1979[17:15:06] <scj643> And have
documentation
L1980[17:15:15] <Forecaster> it's not
done yet
L1981[17:15:18] <jhagrid77> and now the
it wont boot
L1982[17:15:44] <Forecaster> if the
computer doesn't boot you can use a network tool to see why
L1983[17:15:58] <Forecaster>
Analyzer*
L1984[17:16:23] <Forecaster> Turtle: gpu
temp still sitting at 35 :P
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L1986[17:16:41] <Turtle> Forecaster,
odd
L1987[17:16:54] <Turtle> if it goes up
terribly before the squares happen, it´s a cooling issue
L1988[17:17:05] <Turtle> if it stays
around 35 and the squares/artifacts happen, GPU´s broke
L1989[17:17:17] <jhagrid77> Hmm memory
erros
L1990[17:17:20] <jhagrid77> errors*
L1991[17:17:27] <jhagrid77> Description:
Exception in server tick loop java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap
space
L1992[17:17:31] <Forecaster> they don't
happen that often
L1993[17:17:41] <Forecaster> and once
they do it'll be difficult checking the temp
L1994[17:17:50] <Forecaster> unless
afterburner logs it to a file
L1995[17:18:52] <Turtle> jhagrid77, are
you running many mods, and, did you up the memory you gave
mincraft?
L1996[17:19:22] <jhagrid77> Im running
whatever mods scj643 has, and the associated memory is 2gb
L1997[17:19:37] <scj643> That's 92
nods
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L1999[17:19:41] <Turtle> How much RAM
does your computer have?
L2000[17:19:42] <scj643> mods
L2001[17:19:52] <jhagrid77> 4gb plus 8gb
swap
L2002[17:20:18] <Turtle> You might want
to downsize your modpack then or let minecraft run in swap, which
is extremely laggy
L2003[17:20:55] <scj643> I got 4gb of ram
and it runs fine
L2004[17:21:08] <scj643> And no gpu
L2005[17:21:15] <Turtle> odd, because
heap errors mean the jvm doesn´t have enough ram
L2006[17:21:33] <Turtle> jhagrid77,
confirm your launcher is set to 2GB please.
L2007[17:21:58] <scj643> Are you using my
launcher!
L2008[17:22:10] <scj643> ?
L2009[17:22:29] <jhagrid77> No
pirated
L2010[17:22:33] <scj643> Oh
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L2012[17:22:48] <scj643> That might
explain a lot
L2013[17:23:40] <jhagrid77> I already
explained this, and Lizzy said I can still get support as nothing
was said about pirated MC
L2014[17:23:47] <Turtle> That is not the
problem here
L2015[17:23:50] <Antheus> \o
L2016[17:23:55] <jhagrid77> 92 to 56
mods
L2017[17:23:59] <Turtle> Do you crash
right away?
L2018[17:24:19] <jhagrid77> Just
did
L2019[17:24:44] <jhagrid77> Maybe if I
lower it to 4gb max
L2020[17:24:53] <Turtle> just wait
L2021[17:25:03] <Turtle> can you get into
a superflat world? F3 should tell you the allocated memory
L2022[17:25:28] <jhagrid77> Min ram is 2G
max is like 8G
L2023[17:25:36] <jhagrid77> 1 sec let me
see
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L2025[17:26:01] <Turtle> yeah but there´s
not really any doubt in what causes a heapspace error
L2026[17:26:13] <Turtle> unless a mod
randomly throws it, which would be pretty dumb
L2027[17:26:24] <Forecaster> you have max
higher than what you actually have?
L2028[17:26:42] <Turtle> Forecaster,
swap, but it´s not the smartest idea
L2029[17:27:01] <Forecaster> that's what
I meant
L2031[17:34:18] <jhagrid77> The lag
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L2039[17:48:51] <Forecaster> hm, my
pagefile was maxed out while minecraft was running apparently
L2040[17:49:05] <Turtle> Forecaster, oh
dear
L2041[17:49:40] <scj643> Damn
L2042[17:52:49] <Turtle> side note, is it
possible to ´modify´ resources (like textures) at all during
runtime? Given how minecraft works with resourcelocations .-.
L2043[17:53:26] <Forecaster> you can
switch out resource packs with a world loaded, so I'd say yes
L2044[17:53:53] <Turtle> yeah but that´s
switching out, I ment something like changing colours without
applying a filter during render
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L2046[17:54:45] <Turtle> actually,
aparently the tesselator has a filter option
L2048[17:57:22] <Forecaster> heh, after
closing minecraft the gpu temp has gone down by about 4
degrees
L2049[17:57:23] <Turtle> I could probably
do some layering magic with that
L2050[17:57:53] <Turtle> Forecaster, it´s
somewhat logical, without the many fixes provided by
forge/fastcraft, minecraft is incredibly cpu-reliant
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L2052[17:58:50] <Forecaster> yeah, my cpu
is not quite good enough unfortunately
L2053[17:59:02] <markman4897> Hello
L2054[17:59:18] <Forecaster> hi
L2055[17:59:47] <markman4897> I was
pointed here for quick support on OC, am I in the right
place?
L2056[17:59:52] <Forecaster> yes
L2057[18:00:11] <scj643> So a dual core
pentium b960 at 2.2 ghz is better than your cpu Forecaster
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L2060[18:00:58] <markman4897> great... I
encountered a problem with with if a ~= b where it still executed
instead of a being the same as b ...
L2061[18:01:03] <Forecaster> Mine is a
2.5 Quad Core, so no
L2062[18:01:16] <markman4897> I can
provide a longer description but it would kinda flood the
chat
L2063[18:01:25] <scj643> Then why can't
you play MC
L2064[18:01:41] <scj643> I play on that
dual core pentium
L2065[18:01:57] <Forecaster> I can play
it, it just doesn't always run at a high framerate
L2066[18:02:09] <scj643> Live with
it
L2067[18:02:19] <Forecaster> I
refuse.
L2068[18:02:29] <scj643> I get around 55
on my pack
L2069[18:02:40] <Forecaster> good for you
:P
L2070[18:02:44] <scj643> And your cpu is
better
L2071[18:02:46] <Turtle> Forecaster, I
assume you tried fastcraft/optifine?
L2072[18:02:57] <Forecaster> I have
fastcraft, I avoid optifine
L2073[18:03:03] <Turtle> alright just
making sure
L2074[18:03:24] <Forecaster> any time
I've used it it's just made things worse
L2075[18:03:25] <Kodos> markman4897, PM
me with details, please
L2076[18:03:27] <Turtle> (Also: If you
can afford to, multiplayer servers tend to have less rendering lag
since minecraft´s merged architecture)
L2077[18:03:50] <Forecaster> I already
run a dedicated server to offload my computer
L2078[18:03:54] <Forecaster> it's local
though
L2079[18:04:06] <scj643> Is it on a
different compute
L2080[18:04:08] <scj643> R
L2081[18:04:10] <Turtle> You mean, on the
same device, or another device same network? :P
L2082[18:04:18] <Forecaster> the latter
of course
L2083[18:04:24] <Turtle> Alright alright,
:P
L2084[18:04:27] <scj643> Ok
L2085[18:04:28] <Forecaster> :P
L2086[18:04:43] <Forecaster> I'm a
computer geek
L2087[18:04:59] <scj643> Get better
hardware?
L2088[18:05:16] <Forecaster> do you know
where I can get good hardware for almost no money?
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L2090[18:05:17] <scj643> I
L2091[18:05:32] <scj643> Or overclock if
possible
L2092[18:05:55] <Turtle> Yes, overclock
the computer that has graphics artifacts
L2093[18:05:59] <Turtle> Glorious
Idea
L2094[18:06:02] <Forecaster> brilliant
idea :P
L2095[18:06:05] <Turtle> That totally
will not backfire
L2096[18:06:13] <Turtle> Alright I´ll cut
the sarcasm
L2097[18:06:13] <Turtle> xD
L2098[18:06:16] <scj643> Didn't see
that
L2100[18:08:28] <scj643> Damn you use
Windows 10 :D
L2101[18:08:49] <Forecaster> yes
L2102[18:08:52] <Turtle> Double digit nei
pages? You scrub /s
L2103[18:11:38] <Forecaster> I like
stuff... and mods that add stuff...
L2104[18:11:53] <Forecaster> it's all I
have D:
L2105[18:11:57] <Turtle> Before culling,
what I run has >100 pages, xD
L2106[18:12:03] <Turtle> Thank god for
microblock culling
L2107[18:12:03] <Turtle> xD
L2108[18:12:08] <Forecaster> oh
yeah
L2109[18:12:14] <Forecaster> I have those
off :P
L2110[18:12:16] <Forecaster> and
facades
L2111[18:12:31] <Turtle> (It´s +- 36
after culling, but I don´t have all of gendustry culled so it´s
still a bit cluttered)
L2112[18:12:50] <jhagrid77> Can someone
please help me, all of a suddon MC is being really slow and I cant
launch anything
L2113[18:12:59] <Forecaster> wellp, it's
1am.
L2114[18:12:59] <Turtle> jhagrid77, did
you increase memory into swap?
L2115[18:13:01] <Turtle> Swap is
slow.
L2116[18:13:03] <Forecaster> I need to go
to bed
L2117[18:14:32] <Turtle> side note,
minecraft planets are canonically cubic, right?
L2118[18:14:35] <jhagrid77> Max is 3gb I
believe
L2119[18:15:17] <Turtle> jhagrid77, if
everything is slow you are probably running into swap
L2120[18:15:25] <markman4897> could
anyone help me with this simple mining program for a robot (problem
line 24, will execute the loop even if the condition is false)
http://pastebin.com/PxvQwTnZ
L2121[18:15:26] <Turtle> Can you see your
current memory usage?
L2122[18:16:10] <Turtle> markman4897, it
might not be coercing to numbers, and comparing a string
L2123[18:16:30] <Turtle> use
tonumber(sideX) in the comparison, see if that changes
anything
L2124[18:16:31] <Temia> Holy crap
Forecaster.
L2125[18:16:37] <markman4897> didnt think
about that, will try
L2126[18:16:44] <Temia> Your VRAM is
*toast*.
L2127[18:16:56] <Turtle> (When the fuck
did I become nonshit at programming... wtf)
L2128[18:18:06] <Temia> I remember when
my 8600 finally cacked it -- any hardware-accelerated operation
induced artifacts, but the system was otherwise stable. Too bad
smooth scrolling uses hardware acceleration `o`
L2129[18:19:04] <Turtle> Temia, when my
card died (again) the origin would move (And the cut off parts
would wrap to the other side)
L2130[18:19:22] <markman4897> oh my...
this actually was the problem
L2131[18:19:26] <markman4897> thanks a
ton
L2132[18:20:06] <Turtle> Np :P
L2133[18:20:44] <scj643> In thermal
expansion red stone is a viable starter power
L2134[18:20:46] <markman4897> any idea
why it was considered as string even without ""
L2135[18:21:06] <Turtle> sideX =
io.read()
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L2137[18:21:10] <Turtle> io.read returns
a string
L2138[18:21:41] <Turtle> in the for loop,
it is automatically converted to a number as a string would make no
sense there, in a comparison, a string is a valid thing to compare
against, so it´s not converted
L2139[18:22:40] <markman4897> okay...
this always gets me at the end -.- thanks for the explanation
L2140[18:22:50] <Turtle> heh dw
L2141[18:22:52] <Turtle> ... OH GOD
UBISOFT
L2142[18:22:55] <Turtle> NOT AGAIN, DID
YOU NOT LEARN
L2143[18:23:00] <Kodos> uwot
L2144[18:23:09] <Turtle> Aparently AC
syndicate is as shitty as unity
L2145[18:23:18] <Turtle> GRAB THE
POPCORN, UBISOFT FUCKED UP AGAIN
L2146[18:23:52] <jhagrid77> Turtle: Well
it seems to work now, must have been running into swap
L2147[18:24:21] <Turtle> jhagrid77, swap
is INCREDIBLY slow as it writes the excess data to a hard
drive
L2148[18:24:24] <markman4897> do you by
any chance know how to disable swap in ubuntu alike linux?
L2149[18:24:34] <jhagrid77> Although I
wish I had more actual ram
L2150[18:24:37] <scj643> Swap off
L2152[18:24:41] <scj643> As root
L2153[18:24:46] <Turtle> Literally top
google result :p
L2154[18:24:55] <markman4897> thank you
yet again :)
L2155[18:25:02] <markman4897> you trully
are a life saver
L2156[18:25:44] <Turtle> Well no I just
applied basic google-fu
L2157[18:25:54] <Turtle> ¨ubuntu disable
swap¨
L2158[18:26:00] <markman4897> yeah
L2159[18:27:00] <Turtle> like, you´re
welcome, but I recommend trying google first :p
L2160[18:27:30] <scj643> Or Bing if you
like Microsoft paying you
L2161[18:28:10] <markman4897> i know.. it
takes me longer to write in google than it took you to respond...
and i wasnt trying to make you google but get the info if anyone
knew it from the top of their hat... (as the previous message was
about swap)
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L2164[18:32:31] <Turtle> markman4897, I
didn´t mean to offend you or anything, just pointing out that
google was usually quicker, but yeah I was quicker at googling than
you I guess :p
L2165[18:33:04] <scj643> If it's math
asking Siri is quicker
L2166[18:33:17] <scj643> Or yelling at
it
L2167[18:33:43] <markman4897> not
offended, just sayin and still appreciating the quick help
L2168[18:34:39] <markman4897> also now
that this extremely basic miner works... i read somewhere that OC
lacked a big written programs base... should i post such simplicity
somewhere or is it too basic to even bother?
L2169[18:35:24] <scj643> If you join my
server we can get a community together to do stuff like that
L2170[18:36:39] <markman4897> your
server? stuff like programing*
L2171[18:36:47] <scj643> Yes
L2172[18:36:58] <markman4897> and your
server is with what mods?
L2173[18:37:02] <scj643> It's an OC
centered server
L2174[18:37:08] <markman4897>
interesting...
L2175[18:37:10] <markman4897> 24/7?
L2176[18:37:10] <scj643> OC and cc with
addons
L2177[18:37:19] <scj643> Join
#scj643
L2178[18:40:26] <scj643> 24/7 as long as
tmux does
L2179[18:40:29] <Kodos> scj643, use PM to
advertise from now on
L2180[18:40:38] <scj643> Ok
L2181[18:42:54] <markman4897> my bad for
asking questions on the main channel...
L2182[18:50:48] <Turtle> I should figure
out how to spawn basic structures in dimensions
L2183[18:50:55] <Turtle> currently just
got a complete void .-.
L2184[18:53:21] <Turtle> oh, btw, do
people have a preference for space navigation? 3D
coordinates?
L2185[18:54:27] <Kodos> Depends on what
you mean
L2186[18:54:40] <Kodos> Are you talking a
specific location, or method of picking a direction to fly
L2187[18:55:09] <Turtle> Going to
implement a warp-drive like system, I´m going to have to link
locations (Planets/whatever) to a direction/whatever method
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L2189[18:55:59] <jhagrid77> Thats sad, I
can run Unturned fairly well but MC sucks
L2190[18:56:03] <Kodos> I like the way
trek did it, where you had an imaginary plane, and used two 360
degree directions
L2191[18:56:15] <Turtle> like, assume for
a second there´s a warp drive component, you got to tell it somehow
where to go, there´s a few ways of doing so
L2192[18:56:37] <Turtle> Kodos, wouldn´t
2 directions of 360 degrees be a 3D space?
L2193[18:56:43] <Kodos> Yes
L2194[18:57:12] <Turtle> but yeah, I want
to implement it in a way that leaves most of the navigation to be
done by the end user
L2195[19:01:06] <Kodos> How many minutes
in 5 days
L2196[19:01:22] <Turtle> 5*24*60?
L2197[19:01:31] <scj643> 7200
L2198[19:01:37] <Kodos> #lua
5*24*60
L2199[19:01:37] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
7200
L2200[19:01:38] <Kodos> k
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L2202[19:05:56] <Turtle> but, Kodos, what
you are saying is having a 3D grid of ´destinations´, and moving
through it by selecting a direction and distance?
L2203[19:06:27] <Kodos> No, the two
directions would be horizontal and vertical rotation
L2204[19:06:34] <Kodos> Which would
result in you pointing in a certain direction
L2205[19:06:45] <Turtle> well yeah, I
compounded those,
L2206[19:08:56] <Kodos> As for a
distance, maybe have a speed and a duration
L2207[19:09:01] <Kodos> So some math
would be involved
L2208[19:09:08] <Turtle> well yeah that´s
what I´m aiming for
L2209[19:09:17] <Turtle> I could go full
startrek and just use a warpfactor
L2210[19:09:36] <Turtle> Kodos: The base
idea is that a lot of code overhead is to be done before the
spaceship would be usable :p
L2211[19:09:53] <Kodos> I like it, just
don't m ake it too stupidly hard
L2212[19:10:40] <Turtle> yeah
L2213[19:11:08] <Turtle> How much OC crap
can you run before performance is impacted?
L2214[19:11:59] <Kodos> The only
performance issues I've had with OC is that one time GUIs being
opened slowed your game down
L2215[19:12:18] <Turtle> Oh you mean with
the inventories?
L2216[19:12:54] <Turtle> I yelled at
Sangar enough to get that one fixed, NEI was giving a full list of
all items, instead of just the items visible right now
L2217[19:16:17] <Turtle> But, what I was
thinking off was having one server/computer per system of the
spaceship (That is, shields/warpdrive/etc)
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L2219[19:20:16] <Kodos> I'd want
aesthetic replacements for computers first, though
L2220[19:20:23] <Kodos> So you can build
a 'bridge' and have them all there
L2221[19:20:34] <Turtle> Go yell at
someone else
L2222[19:20:40] <Kodos> Indeed
L2223[19:20:50] <Turtle> If you´re going
to control a spaceship using floppy based computers, aesthetics be
damned
L2224[19:20:50] <Turtle> xD
L2225[19:21:19] <Turtle> (But
flatscreen/holographic screens would be neat)
L2226[19:22:12] <Kodos> Need I remind you
what Apollo 11 ran on?
L2227[19:22:50] <Turtle> There´s a slight
difference between a giant ballistic missile and a spacecraft able
to reach FTL speeds, equipped with forcefields
L2228[19:24:07] <Turtle> I probably
should go now, but yeah I´ll look into that trek-like warp system,
sounds decently neat
L2229[19:24:23] <Turtle> will probably
still use a 3D-grid internally for locations
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L2231[19:33:13] <Turtle> well, cya
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L2242[20:26:51] <jhagrid77> Anyone
here?
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L2258[21:24:21] <Caitlyn> Sangar, why are
you never around when I need j00>!
L2259[21:24:23] <Caitlyn> ?!*
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L2261[21:45:22] <scj643> I'm here I'm
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L2263[21:49:31] <Kodos> You're not the
dev of OC
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L2265[21:50:11] <Antheus> lol
L2266[21:50:30] <Antheus> TIL: Plan9k can
not run off of 1 t2 memory stick w/o crashing
L2267[21:51:38] <Temia> Gee, that's a
surprise
L2268[22:02:07] <Antheus> ~w ipairs
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L2272[22:13:56] <Antheus> ~w rc
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L2275[22:19:53] <Antheus> ~w modem
L2277[22:22:40] <Antheus> ~w event
L2279[22:23:59] <Antheus> ~w string
L2281[22:24:30] <vifino> Antheus: Hey, I
found something that you should look at:
L2282[22:24:33] <jhagrid77> Can anyone
please give me some tips on decreasing the lag I am facing?
L2283[22:24:37] <vifino> ~w brain
L2285[22:24:52] <Antheus> vifino: I eat
brains for breakfast
L2286[22:25:05] <vifino> Antheus: You
should store one of them in yer head.
L2287[22:25:16] <Antheus> I do have one
:P
L2288[22:35:47] <jhagrid77> ...
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L2292[22:48:45] <Antheus> So, I'm trying
to get this to work with the rc program, yet It keeps saying that
it expected a function, but got nil
L2294[22:51:06] <Caitlyn> Antheus, no
idea if it'll make any difference.. but remove the () from the
function name in your e.listen
L2295[22:51:12] <Caitlyn> iirc you don't
need them
L2296[22:53:10] <Antheus> didn't fix
it
L2298[22:55:55] <Antheus> Caitlyn:
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L2300[22:58:22] *
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L2302[23:00:24] <Antheus> Is there a way
to get a program to run in the background?
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L2304[23:03:14] <Caitlyn> Antheus, I just
tested your file without the extra args in your printMsg function,
and got no error
L2305[23:04:03] <Antheus> .-.
L2306[23:04:44] <Antheus> I keep getting
the same error
L2307[23:04:50] <Caitlyn> printMsg(e,
laddr, raddr, p, d, type, message) works
L2308[23:04:57] <Caitlyn> adding the
other args there breaks it
L2309[23:08:29] <Antheus> Woo, it
works
L2310[23:08:41] <Caitlyn> Nice, what'd
you end up with?
L2312[23:13:25] <Caitlyn> Well, it seems
I have no idea how to do shit with network cards.
L2313[23:13:26] <Caitlyn> lol
L2314[23:13:40] <Antheus> lol
L2315[23:13:55] <Caitlyn> cause my
broadcast isn't getting picked up on my receiver... so meh. I
should have been in bed 45 minutes ago
L2316[23:14:35] <Antheus> Caitlyn:
same.
L2317[23:14:48] <Antheus> Usually go to
bed at 10:30ish
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L2322[23:31:20] <vifino> TIL the app
ParcelTrack.
L2323[23:31:24] <vifino> Holy shit is it
good.
L2324[23:31:40] <vifino> Tracks *all* the
delivery things.
L2325[23:31:58] <vifino> + looks sexy as
fuck with Eclipse2 dark mode activated
L2326[23:32:44] <vifino> :O
L2327[23:32:48] <vifino> It is cross
platform!1111
L2328[23:32:53] <vifino> HYPE
L2329[23:33:49] <Antheus> ~w computer
api
L2331[23:34:52] <vifino> Aaaand it looks
just as sexy as the android app :D
L2332[23:35:36] <vifino> I've been using
this thing for 10 minutes and already love it.
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L2335[23:39:52] <Izaya> Wouldn't be much
use if you don't buy online much
L2336[23:40:48] <vifino> Izaya: I
disagree.
L2337[23:41:11] <vifino> Knowing your
package status is awesome even if you only have one package
delivered to you.
L2338[23:41:49] <Izaya> true, but most
things have a tracker anyway
L2339[23:41:56] <Izaya> in other
news
L2340[23:41:59] <vifino> That's the
point.
L2341[23:42:12] <Izaya> obtained cisco
console cable today
L2342[23:42:15] <vifino> Every darn thing
has its own tracker app.
L2343[23:42:24] <vifino> This one
combines all of them.
L2344[23:42:27] <vifino> So..
L2345[23:42:28] <vifino> woo!
L2346[23:42:30] *
Antheus tries to remember the last thing he hordered
online
L2347[23:42:55] <vifino> :O
L2348[23:43:11] <vifino> You can also
email to this parceltrack thing and it will extract the
information
L2349[23:43:12] <vifino> :D
L2350[23:43:20] <vifino> yay
lazines
L2351[23:43:22] <vifino> s
L2352[23:45:53] <vifino> For example, I
know that the replacement motherboard got delivered yesterday, but
the guy didn't answer the thing as i asked who was there, I thought
it was a kid ringing and running away.
L2353[23:46:00] <vifino> So yay for
another day of waiting.
L2354[23:48:08] <Izaya> ._.
L2355[23:48:10] <Izaya> gg guy
L2356[23:48:32] <vifino> ikr
L2357[23:48:33] <Antheus> ~w io
L2359[23:48:42] <Antheus> ~w term
L2361[23:51:47] <vifino> But dang, this
app simplifies everything.
L2362[23:52:09] <vifino> Normally we get
packages delivered by either DHL, Hermes or UPS.
L2363[23:52:14] <vifino> 3 apps.
L2364[23:52:24] <vifino> Now I only have
one and it is preeeeetttttttyyyyy!
L2365[23:52:26] <vifino> wooooo
L2366[23:53:17] <vifino> The app on
android has material design, even ds84182 would approve.
L2367[23:53:35] <vifino> And its a german
app, so what can I say :D
L2368[23:53:40] <vifino> huehuehue
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L2370[23:58:02] <jhagrid77> Nice