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L27[03:37:28] ***
scj643ender was kicked by Lizzy (Did you not read the
rules?))
L28[03:37:43] <Lizzy> ermm
L29[03:37:48] <Lizzy> thanks irssi
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L37[05:07:25] <Kodos> !kick scj643 You
missed one
L38[05:07:25] ***
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L39[05:08:37] <SnowDapples> :o
L40[05:08:40] <Lizzy> Kodos, i was kicking
his bot thing, not him
L41[05:08:52] <Kodos> My ba
L43[05:08:57] <Kodos> It's 5 am and I don't
even have my glasses on
L44[05:09:05] <Kodos> But I had read the
convo with gamax and wasn't sure
L45[05:09:07] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L46[05:09:41] <SnowDapples> What do you
guys need 6 bots for?
L48[05:10:12] <SnowDapples> (besides
spamming the channel with lua stuff)
L49[05:10:45] <SnowDapples> The rules
mention 6 authorized bots.
L50[05:11:05] <Lizzy> that isnt an
up-to-date list
L51[05:11:25] <Izaya> more bots > less
bots
L52[05:11:28] <Izaya> literally :D
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L54[05:13:37] <Temia> Kodos, please don't
try to moderate at 5 AM
L55[05:13:41] <Temia> Unless it's
like
L56[05:13:49] <Temia> Clearcut
shitposting
L57[05:13:55] <Kodos> Temia, I usually
don't but that guy was an annoying twat
L58[05:14:10] <Izaya> hitting the nail
right on the head
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L60[05:19:38] <Spookdra> it's true!
L61[05:22:11] *
Ender cuddles Evey
L63[05:23:24] <Temia> Fair enough
L64[05:25:02] <Kodos> Okay, now to get my
glasses, and make sure what I read was correct, then pizza, Dr
Pepper, and organizing my clusterfuck of an autorun file
L65[05:26:16] *
Lizzy has forgotten what she was doing
L66[05:28:17] <Lizzy> oh yeah
L67[05:28:20] *
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L71[05:33:33] <Lizzy> that was not directed
at anyone in here
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L73[05:44:01] <Kodos> Was it apt-get update
or upgrade that actually updates the packages
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L75[05:44:28] <Lizzy> update updates the
source list, upgrade updates the packages
L77[05:44:56] <Lizzy> though you'd
typically do both at the same time if you haven't done so in a
while
L78[05:45:41] <Kodos> I plan to, I just
couldn't remember which was which from when someone told me the
other day
L79[05:47:22] <Turtle> Doesn´t update just
cache what´s available on the servers on the source list?
L80[05:48:02] <Izaya> :/ I'd use a .tech
domain, but not a .technology
L81[05:48:20] ***
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L82[05:48:40] <Kodos> If I have
shell.execute midway through my code, once it runs the program
through, does it return to my code, or go back to prompt (If that's
what the program does when it ends)
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L84[05:48:46] <scj643> What
L85[05:48:58] <Turtle> Kodos, it´ll
continue your code I believe
L86[05:49:08] <scj643> What happens
L87[05:49:20] <Kodos> That makes this
infinitely easier
L88[05:49:36] <Turtle> iirc, it even runs
in protected mode
L89[05:49:57] <scj643> Why was I
kicked
L90[05:50:11] <Kodos> I was midway through
writing functions to add/remove UUIDs to a .dat file
L91[05:50:18] <Kodos> And I realized it
would be better in separate programs
L92[05:50:34] <scj643> Kodos: why was I
kicked?
L93[05:50:51] <Kodos> Because I was
attempting to moderate IRC at 5 AM when I had just woke up, with no
glasses and no morning beverage
L94[05:50:59] <scj643> Oh
L95[05:51:00] <Kodos> (Read: Sorry, my
bad)
L96[05:51:09] <scj643> It was 6 am my time
:D
L97[05:51:19] <Izaya> hrm
L98[05:51:24] <Kodos> I've since located my
glasses and acquired tea and leftovers
L99[05:51:26] <Izaya> I wonder if we'll
eventually get a .ios
L100[05:51:37] <Izaya> for mediocre
hipster iPhone apps
L101[05:51:48] <scj643> Well good to know
my server was still connected to IRC
L102[05:51:49] <Izaya> because then I can
use shadowkatstud.ios
L103[05:52:07] <Elizabeth> lol
L104[05:53:05] <scj643> Lizzy is
dead?
L105[05:53:07] <Kodos> Bah, wish there was
a script to sort Lua code out
L106[05:53:37] <Elizabeth> yes, Lizzy is
dead
L107[05:54:03] <scj643> She banned then
unbanned my server ip she must have had the same issue as you
L108[05:54:30] <scj643> She must have
forgotten that my server is hosted on the same server as her
bouncer possibly
L109[05:54:49] <scj643> Of which
connecting a server to IRC is allowed
L110[05:55:33] <Ender> %lookup
athar.theender.net
L111[05:55:35] <MichiBot> Ender: DNS Info
for athar.theender.net 62.4.22.248
L112[05:55:36] <Kodos> I need something
stronger than tea...
L113[05:55:38] <Ender> %lookup
janus.theender.net
L114[05:55:39] <MichiBot> Ender: DNS Info
for janus.theender.net 107.191.47.156 2001:19f0:6800:8161::1
L115[05:55:47] <scj643> Oh different
ups
L116[05:55:49] <Ender> %lookup
scj.theender.net
L117[05:55:49] <MichiBot> Ender: DNS Info
for scj.theender.net 62.210.7.192
L118[05:55:51] <scj643> Ips
L120[05:56:22] <Ender> She banned your IP
because she saw it was from your mc server
L121[05:56:25] <Kodos> Something something
motherboard?
L122[05:56:29] <scj643> Why
L123[05:56:40] <Izaya> hadn't thought of
that angle
L124[05:56:46] <Izaya> but I know for a
fact that it's stronger than tea
L125[05:56:54] <Ender> did you read the
rules, scj643?
L126[05:57:00] <scj643> What?
L127[05:57:05] <Kodos> !rules
L128[05:57:08] <Kodos> Bah
L129[05:57:11] <Kodos> It's in the
topic
L130[05:57:11] <Kodos> go read
L131[05:57:14] <Ender> .rules
L133[05:57:18] <Kodos> Oh, a dot
L134[05:57:18] <Kodos> Derp
L135[05:59:28] <Kodos> Okay, this isn't as
bad as I thought it would be with Atom's folding
L136[05:59:32] <scj643> How did I break
them?
L137[05:59:40] <Kodos> Did you read the
Ingame IRC bits part
L139[06:00:06] <scj643> I had one
connection
L140[06:00:31] <Ender> Lizzy couldn't
determin that though, so she banned the ip
L141[06:00:36] <scj643> Oh
L142[06:01:18] <Kodos> Hang on, I'll fix
it
L143[06:01:32] <scj643> She already
unbanned me
L144[06:01:40] <Kodos> !unban
*!*@scj.theender.net
L145[06:01:40] *** zsh sets mode: -b
*!*@scj.theender.net
L146[06:01:45] <Kodos> Not that one
L147[06:01:50] <scj643> Oh
L148[06:02:11] <scj643> Yeah and that
wasn't the "server" IRC that connects in game chat
L149[06:02:23] <scj643> It was an OC on an
IRC client
L150[06:02:31] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L151[06:02:33] <scj643> At spawn
L152[06:03:06] <Izaya> >giving users
something that could be abused and blamed on you
L153[06:03:12] <Izaya> I see you've never
done any tech support
L154[06:03:19] <scj643> Nope
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L156[06:03:43] <scj643> Well all my users
are from here
L157[06:04:18] <scj643> Also could protect
the computer from other user input
L158[06:04:25] <scj643> Have it be read
only
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L160[06:04:50] <Kodos> If you're just
using it for rules or something, you could always use RFTools
screens
L161[06:05:05] <scj643> no
L162[06:05:27] <scj643> Server doesn't
even have official rules just don't be an ass
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L164[06:06:25] <CodeNinja_> scj643's
server: Where the only law is Wheaton's law.
L165[06:06:35] *
Elizabeth shorts part of her electronics then gets a face full of
capacitor gas
L166[06:06:45] <Elizabeth> bleugh
L167[06:06:45] <CodeNinja_> can someone
kick my timed-out self?
L168[06:06:47] <scj643> Damn
L169[06:07:05] <Elizabeth> CodeNinja_,
your normal nick just timed out
L170[06:07:15] <CodeNinja_> good
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L172[06:07:31] <Kodos> Bah, someone in
GC's channel got 'Fly me to the moon' stuck in my head
L174[06:08:40] <MichiBot> Izaya:
Savage
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L177[06:11:59] <MichiBot> CodeNinja:
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L179[06:12:16] <MichiBot> Kodos:
Twisted Sister -- We're Not Gonna Take it [Extended Version]
OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO | length:
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L180[06:14:03] <Izaya> "The uploader
has not made this video available in your country.
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L184[06:19:14] <MichiBot> Elizabeth:
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L185[06:29:52] <Kodos> I'm really
disappointed that in 4 years, I haven't found a game with the depth
of SS13 that I've enjoyed
L186[06:30:37] <scj643> Damn need to
resprihg
L187[06:30:42] <scj643> *resprihg
L188[06:30:45] <scj643> *n
L189[06:30:47] <scj643> Not h
L190[06:30:59] <scj643> I can't type right
now
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L193[06:32:38] <scj643> Though respringing
is faster than a reboot by a long shot
L194[06:35:54] <scj643> How old is OpenSSL
0.9.8
L195[06:37:28] <scj643> Elizabeth: how is
softether going?
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L197[06:46:37] <Kubuxu> My cousin:
L198[06:46:39] <Kubuxu> For months we were
talking about bringing our laptop to a service shop as it had a
broken hinge. The week we finally gave it for repair the bloody
shop got burned down!! Should have just used a duct tape...
L199[06:47:16] <scj643> I use duct tape
already
L200[06:47:23] <scj643> My hinge already
is broken
L201[06:47:25] <Kubuxu> What is the
chance...
L202[06:47:42] <scj643> Been like that for
about a year I think
L203[06:48:00] <Kubuxu> That is why you
buy laptop with huge metal hinges :P
L204[06:50:28] <scj643> Or get a
tablet
L205[06:51:34] <Kubuxu> Show me a tablet
with 4 core i7, 16GB RAM, GTX760M and 4h battery life, then I will
by it
L206[06:51:48] <scj643> Dang
L207[06:52:20] <Kubuxu> Yup, when you are
switching from PC to notebook only you are used to some
standard.
L208[06:52:27] <Kubuxu> and you have to
keep it
L209[06:52:28] <scj643> My laptop is a
dual core 2.2ghz pentiummb960 4 GB ram Intel graphics and at most 2
hour battery
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L213[07:02:25] <Kubuxu> You got to love
kids that pay for them.
L214[07:03:06] <Kubuxu> Funniest this is
that we might get lower number of people for day of two but then
there is no difference.
L215[07:06:44] <Kodos> Holy shit my
brother is retarded
L216[07:06:50] <SnowDapples> \o/
L217[07:06:53] <Kubuxu> I am forced to
agree.
L218[07:06:55] <Kubuxu> :P
L219[07:07:02] <scj643> You said it
L220[07:07:23] <scj643> How is he stupid
I'm curious
L221[07:11:37] <Kodos> Okay, code is semi
organized now, time to get on the server and replace
autorun.lua
L223[07:11:56] <S3> Autorun.lua?
L224[07:12:12] <Kodos> Originally it was
just running my door open/close stuff with magcards
L225[07:12:20] <Kodos> But I've since
integrated Dave into it
L226[07:12:20] <S3> Vifino: ever mounted a
gzipped filesystem?
L227[07:12:25] <Kodos> And it became a
clusterfuck of code
L228[07:12:31] <Kodos> So I yanked it out
and organized it
L229[07:13:25] <Elizabeth> scj643, took
you long enough to realise i changed nicks
L230[07:13:39] <scj643> Yeah
L231[07:13:41] <S3> Who is
Elizabeth?
L232[07:13:48] <Elizabeth> S3, whois
me
L233[07:13:50] <Kodos> What's short for
Elizabeth
L234[07:14:09] <Elizabeth> as for
softether, haven't worked on it at all today, been doing work stuff
this morning and just finished watching doctor who on my lunch
break
L235[07:14:11] <scj643> Lizzy
L236[07:14:33] <Kodos> Oh yeah, forgot
there was a new one
L237[07:14:33] <Kodos> brb
L238[07:14:36] <scj643> Also Elizabeth how
much do you care about encryption
L239[07:16:01] <S3> At first I thought
that Elizabeth was vifino because of the whois result lol
L240[07:16:15] <Elizabeth> wat
L241[07:16:20] <Elizabeth> oh
L242[07:16:23] <Elizabeth> the
channel
L243[07:16:25] <S3> It looked weird on my
client
L244[07:16:35] <Elizabeth> scj643, in what
sense?#
L245[07:16:39] <S3> That was my reaction
to
L247[07:17:08] <scj643> Softether uses rc4
and ssl3
L248[07:17:17] <scj643> By default but can
use tls
L249[07:18:37] <S3> Meh encryption.
L250[07:19:07] <S3> It is unlawful for me
to encrypt my data over the radio
L251[07:19:20] <scj643> .......
L252[07:19:31] <S3> I could lose my
license
L253[07:19:54] <scj643> Oh
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L255[07:20:37] <scj643> I'm in some
communities where they take security seriously
L256[07:20:53] <Elizabeth> afk
L257[07:22:12] <S3> But scj643: if I have
a legitimate reason I am licensed to run a wireless g network at
1.5 kilowatts watts
L258[07:22:22] <S3> Woops said watts
wife
L259[07:22:25] <S3> Twice*
L260[07:22:44] <scj643> ......
L261[07:22:47] <scj643> English
L262[07:23:12] <S3> Considering most
routers transmit at about 20 to 70 miliwatts...
L263[07:23:34] <S3> Do you know the metric
system?
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L265[07:24:04] <S3> It is based on
increments of a thousand
L266[07:24:12] <scj643> I know that
L267[07:24:16] <S3> Right
L268[07:24:20] <scj643> What's wireless
g
L269[07:24:27] <S3> So 1 kilo watt is 1000
watts
L270[07:24:44] <scj643> I know that part I
don't understand wireless G
L271[07:24:47] <S3> 1 miliwatts is 1
thousandth of a watt
L273[07:25:15] <scj643> I know what a watt
and the metric system is pretty well.
L274[07:25:21] <S3> Wireless G is an
802.11 standard
L275[07:25:26] <scj643> Ok
L276[07:25:32] <scj643> That's all I
needed to know
L277[07:25:41] <Turtle> I think S3´s point
is that a 1KW transmitter is expensive, and large, like, several
thousands expensive
L278[07:25:51] <S3> Where are you?
Tazmania? Lol
L279[07:26:30] <S3> Turtle expensive to
run.. Expensive to build
L280[07:26:52] <S3> Most antennas will
literally become molten metal at that
L281[07:27:00] <S3> Because they are often
to thin
L282[07:27:02] <scj643> Why would you want
a 1.5KW wifi network
L283[07:27:03] <Turtle> eh, you can run
them off auxillary generators if you really want to, 1KW is not a
ton
L284[07:27:23] <S3> Turtle good w
question. It's a bit pointless
L285[07:27:37] <S3> But my license covers
a lot more than that
L286[07:28:11] <Turtle> ... also, hang
on
L287[07:28:14] <S3> I can transmit signals
at wavelengths 160 meters long
L288[07:28:26] <S3> Big antenna.
L289[07:28:52] <Turtle> I for a moment got
confused with the wifi frequency range.
L290[07:28:59] <scj643> Issue on softether
Fixed the problem that an unnecessary "Insert disk"
dialog box appears when installing VPN Server or VPN Bridge on
Windows 10.
L291[07:29:06] <S3> Scj643 you should get
one too. There no age requirement and its cheap to take the
test
L292[07:29:19] <Turtle> Having a
unshielded microwave would be somewhat dumb xD
L293[07:29:22] <scj643> In the U.S.
L295[07:29:30] <scj643> Wow
L296[07:29:34] <S3> I'm in the us
L298[07:29:49] <Turtle> Isn´t it just not
being dumb with the equipment? Knowing laws/regulations?
L299[07:29:53] <scj643> But didn't you say
something about you can't encrypt
L300[07:30:16] <S3> Turtle well
actually... It's sort of weird to most of us but microwaves used to
have no doors
L301[07:30:41] <scj643> Also s3 wouldn't a
1.5 KW wireless G network over power all your neighbors
signals
L302[07:30:48] <scj643> That
L303[07:30:50] <Turtle> S3, well, yeah,
but a 1KW transmitter is still pretty heavy, even if it is
omnidirectonal
L305[07:31:09] <scj643> That'll teach
Comcast to make shit public wifi that interferes with everyone
else
L306[07:31:17] <dangranos> hi
L307[07:31:25] <scj643> Hi
L308[07:31:37] <Turtle> Public transit has
wifi here, every time another bus passes on the highway my phone
goes ¨Hurr.¨ for a moment xD
L309[07:31:39] <S3> It takes a lot more
per to ionize. But
L310[07:32:01] <scj643> wow turtle wish I
was where you were
L311[07:32:07] <Turtle> Yeah no
L312[07:32:17] <Turtle> there´s ALWAYS the
one asshat who tries to netflix and drowns out the entire
connection
L313[07:32:24] <scj643> Damn
L314[07:32:25] <Elizabeth> lol
L315[07:32:26] <S3> Lol. And yet turtle
every time somebody brings a cell phone to a concert with analog
audio e equipment the speakers freak out
L316[07:32:40] <Turtle> S3, well yeah
xD
L317[07:32:56] *
scj643 does wireshark sniffing and kicks the asshole
off
L318[07:32:59] <S3> Fortunately my live
rack is all digital
L319[07:33:14] ⇦
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timeout: 206 seconds)
L320[07:33:23] <S3> 90Khz audio is
nice
L321[07:34:17] <scj643> My audio equipment
is whatever is on my iPad, my laptop, a cheap hdtv and a monoprice
headphone set
L322[07:35:32] <S3> I have a 1000$
amplifier and an alesis compressor and some other pro audio
equipment. I bought it all when I made salary
L323[07:35:47] *
Elizabeth waits for a vm to start
L324[07:39:53] <Caitlyn> So, OpenFM's new
player can do MP3 and OGG now
L325[07:40:14] <Caitlyn> I just have to
finish implementing everything.. like Stop... and volume.
L326[07:40:57] <S3> I need to go yell at
the networking department today
L327[07:41:08] <Elizabeth> please
don
L328[07:41:09] <Elizabeth> t
L329[07:41:21] <S3> We use port security
so only so many Mac addresses can be on any port
L330[07:41:29] <scj643> Which
L331[07:41:34] <S3> Any time.. Not just at
the same time
L332[07:41:47] <scj643> Nice Caitlyn looks
like I'll be updating soon
L333[07:41:56] *
Elizabeth finds port security semi-redundant
L334[07:42:07] <scj643> Also I like
which
L335[07:42:07] <Elizabeth> at least in my
workplace
L336[07:42:12] <Caitlyn> scj643, do you
have an example of a ogg stream?
L337[07:42:14] <S3> Makes it hard to do my
job of setting oa virtualization farm for a department on
campus
L338[07:42:36] <scj643> I do let me get
it
L339[07:42:52] <S3> Ogg vorbis is
amazing
L341[07:43:29] <scj643> Ping?
L342[07:43:37] <Elizabeth> ping
L343[07:44:06] <scj643> That's NPR
L344[07:44:19] <Caitlyn> k
L345[07:44:28] <Caitlyn> I may shoot
myself, but I'll see if it works
L346[07:44:32] <Caitlyn> :P
L347[07:46:00] <scj643> Why?
L348[07:46:07] <Elizabeth> %lookup
janus.theender.net
L349[07:46:07] <MichiBot> Elizabeth: DNS
Info for janus.theender.net 107.191.47.156
2001:19f0:6800:8161::1
L350[07:46:20] <S3> Ogg flac is also great
though
L351[07:46:33] <Caitlyn> k, streaming ogg
works.
L353[07:46:56] <S3> Damn network
L354[07:47:13] <Caitlyn> Though, this damn
ogg file I'm streaming seems to skip
L355[07:47:16] <S3> Scj643 ever used ogg
flac?
L356[07:47:37] ⇦
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L357[07:48:28] <scj643> Nope
L358[07:48:43] <Caitlyn> See if it does it
with my test mp3...
L359[07:49:52] <Caitlyn> I REALLY need to
implement stop
L360[07:49:53] <Caitlyn> lol
L361[07:51:20] <S3> Yeah ogg can pack a
lot more than just vorbis
L362[07:52:07] <Caitlyn> Damn Rick and
Morty....
L363[07:52:08] <Caitlyn> %yt Chaos Chaos -
Do You Feel It
L364[07:52:09] <MichiBot> Caitlyn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTA0DSfrGZ0 -
Chaos Chaos (formerly Smoosh) - Do You Feel It? - YouTube:
"Apr 19, 2015 ... +Chaos Chaos FANS shit, you must feel so
guilty ... for lyrics. thought we'd just
L365[07:52:18] <S3> Flac is a lossless
format and is useful for professional audio over lossy carriers
such as radio waves
L366[07:53:21] <S3> Most radio stations
forbid the use of lossy compression on audio such as mp3
L367[07:53:37] <S3> On the us
L369[07:53:49] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Depends
what your goal is. If you want the best quality with little
bandwith flac is a bad choice ;)
L370[07:53:54] <Caitlyn> Oh now I see why
it was stuttering.. the server I was streaming my test off from is
currently uploading at 3 KB/s
L371[07:54:10] <Caitlyn> s/off/ogg/
L372[07:54:10] <Kibibyte> <Caitlyn>
Oh now I see why it was stuttering.. the server I was streaming my
test ogg from is currently uploading at 3 KB/s
L373[07:54:25] ***
Cranium[Away] is now known as Cranium
L374[07:54:30] <S3> Deanisakitty: most
stations here use raw audio. :P
L375[07:54:41] <S3> Which is massive
L376[07:55:12] <Caitlyn> 20 minutes to
download 4 mb... this is great
L377[07:55:18] *
Caitlyn stabs shitty remote server
L378[07:55:27] *
Izaya frowns
L379[07:55:38] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: If you
are sending radio - especially analogue - raw audio is probably a
good idea :P
L380[07:55:56] <Izaya> what is one even
meant to do with an ancient machine running ancient OS X?
L381[07:56:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya:
thrash it?
L382[07:56:28] <S3> Flac works just as
well, it takes up less space on the local storage systems and is
approved for professional audio
L383[07:56:47] <Izaya> well this is one of
the few times I'll have a chance to use OS X
L384[07:57:00] <S3> Izaya: burn it
L385[07:57:01] <Izaya> so I may as well
take advantage of it
L386[07:57:06] <scj643> You put a Linux
system in it
L387[07:57:12] <Izaya> I'll be
dual-booting debian of course
L388[07:57:14] <scj643> If it's not Intel
based
L389[07:57:17] <DeanIsaKitty> S3:
"professional audio" is a pretty wide field. Yes, FLAC is
very good when you want lossless audio, but that is simply not
always the case in the industry.
L390[07:57:33] <scj643> Izaya: is it Intel
based Mac
L391[07:57:41] <Izaya> Nope, G4
L392[07:57:49] <scj643> Good luck
L393[07:57:51] <Caitlyn> I miss my G4
laptop...
L394[07:58:04] <Caitlyn> I remember
installing a Windows XP VM.
L395[07:58:06] <Izaya> PPC macs are the
only ones I'd see much advantage to
L396[07:58:11] <Caitlyn> It took 12 hours
to install.
L397[07:58:13] <scj643> Why
L398[07:58:16] <Caitlyn> and took 2 to
boot.
L399[07:58:26] <scj643> What's better
about the PPC macs
L400[07:58:35] <Izaya> They aren't
x86
L401[07:58:45] <scj643> Besides that
L402[07:58:46] <Izaya> and x86 sucked even
harder than it does now back then
L403[07:59:07] <scj643> No one makes stuff
for PPC anymore though
L404[07:59:07] <S3> X86 always sickness
and always will such
L405[07:59:19] <S3> Sucked*
L406[07:59:31] <DeanIsaKitty> x86's mov
instruction is turing-complete
L407[07:59:41] <S3> Doesn't matter
L408[07:59:43] <Izaya> Indeed, as such,
x86 is more practical, scj643
L410[07:59:54] <Elizabeth> %lookup
osiris.stary2001.co.uk
L411[07:59:56] <MichiBot> Elizabeth: DNS
Info for osiris.stary2001.co.uk 62.210.129.229
2001:bc8:395b::1
L412[08:00:13] <S3> My 2mhz 6502 will beat
the shit out of your 5mhz 8080 anyday.
L413[08:00:19] <S3> Performance wide
L415[08:00:27] <Izaya> I certainly
wouldn't buy a current Mac
L416[08:00:30] <Izaya> woo 6502
L417[08:00:33] <S3> That's how shit that
idea was
L418[08:00:56] <S3> Design goof
L419[08:01:11] <Izaya> running circles
around a Z80 at double the clock speed
L420[08:01:15] <DeanIsaKitty> RISC
ftw?
L421[08:01:37] <Izaya> RISC ftw.
L422[08:01:40] <S3> 6502 was neither risc
nor cisc
L423[08:01:51] <S3> But risc is cool
L425[08:02:08] <S3> Izaya: guess what I
found out a few days ago
L426[08:02:09] <scj643> Or any windows
hackery
L427[08:02:33] <Izaya> information?
L428[08:02:43] <Elizabeth> :@ FFS
tincd
L430[08:03:10] <S3> My ee professor worked
for zilog for the z80 birthing and his friend was the one who
founded xilinx
L431[08:03:28] <S3> Which xilinx is the
initial fpga company
L432[08:03:52] <S3> Pretty cool
L433[08:04:02] <Izaya> that's certainly
interestinf
L434[08:04:41] <S3> Kind of ironic
considering the guy who designed the 6502 graduated from here
L436[08:06:09] <scj643> Well we can all
look and point at how Microsoft fails with activation and why it's
pirated so much
L437[08:06:18] <S3> I read that as
"my limb through my windshield"
L439[08:07:07] <S3> Windows should be
free
L440[08:07:14] <scj643> It should
L441[08:07:15] <S3> People shouldn't sell
software
L442[08:07:26] <S3> People should sell
sorry and services
L443[08:07:27] <scj643> Ok that's
sarcasm
L444[08:07:35] <scj643> Sorry?
L445[08:08:07] <scj643> People should sell
software but a consumer OS forget about it
L446[08:08:14] <Izaya> that isn't
sarcasm
L447[08:08:22] <scj643> .....
L448[08:08:23] <Izaya> software shouldn't
be sold
L449[08:08:24] <scj643> Explain the sorry
part
L450[08:08:31] <Izaya> dunno about
that
L451[08:08:38] <Turtle> ... you know that
windows is aimed at businesses?
L452[08:08:56] <Turtle> It´s pretty hard
to convince businesses to give you money for the free stuff you´re
giving them
L453[08:08:56] <Izaya> software should be
free
L454[08:09:04] <scj643> I know but it's on
millions of home users
L455[08:09:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: And
how does Redhat survive again?
L456[08:09:14] <Izaya> services on the
other hand
L457[08:09:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: And
google?
L458[08:09:22] <scj643> They should make
the home edition free
L459[08:09:36] <DeanIsaKitty> scj643: They
basically are with W10
L460[08:09:44] <scj643> No
L461[08:09:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Yes
L462[08:09:50] <Turtle> ... DeanIsaKitty
Google provides advertisement to pretty much everywhere on the
internet, they are not a good example of your point
L463[08:10:06] <scj643> If your on a
system without windows you can't get win10 for free
L464[08:10:18] <DeanIsaKitty> scj643: You
can go pirate W7 and upgrade to W10
L465[08:10:27] <scj643> Red hat provides
updates for the system
L466[08:10:29] <Izaya> you can always get
Windows for free
L467[08:10:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: They
do more than advertisment, but true. Bad example. sorry :D
L468[08:10:37] <S3> Deanskitty: there are
two major points of redhat and they are very smart
L469[08:10:42] <scj643> DeanIsaKitty: no
you can't just do that
L470[08:10:44] <Izaya> RedHat provices
support
L471[08:10:50] <Turtle> ^ I was about to
point that out
L472[08:10:51] <DeanIsaKitty> scj643: Yes
you can.
L473[08:10:52] <S3> The first point of
redhat is to sell support
L474[08:11:03] <Caitlyn> scj643, I did
exactly that.
L475[08:11:06] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Wasn't
that your point in the first place?
L476[08:11:28] <S3> The second point of
redhat is to create a Linux distribution that can be marked on us
tax reductions
L477[08:11:33] <scj643> You can until next
year then
L478[08:11:34] <Izaya> scj643: Once you
install the keylogger update for W7 you can run a few commands and
update to 10
L479[08:11:35] <DeanIsaKitty> How
corporations shouldn't sell software but support instead?
L480[08:11:52] <Izaya> provided Nothing
Happened
L481[08:12:00] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, that
is not going to work
L482[08:12:00] <S3> There are companies Hi
put there who refuse to use any products unless they can deduct
them on taxes even if they are free
L483[08:12:06] <S3> Hence redhat is
born
L484[08:12:09] <scj643> Yeah but not
having a valid key won't make the update valid
L485[08:12:30] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: You have
to explain that tax reductions part. I know you can get around to
not pay taxes pretty easily in the US, but what does that have to
do with RHEL?
L486[08:12:42] <Izaya> scj643: You are
issued a new key when you update
L487[08:12:54] <scj643> Ok
L488[08:13:09] <Caitlyn> 4 computers
upgraded to 10 from pirated 7, all 4 are perfectly fine.
L489[08:13:10] <scj643> Only on windows 7
though and does it work on pro
L490[08:13:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: Ok,
what makes you so certain?
L491[08:13:25] <Turtle> Companies will cut
costs
L492[08:13:27] <DeanIsaKitty> scj643: Down
to vista actually :)
L493[08:13:35] <Izaya> Your faith in a
corp amazes me, scj643
L494[08:13:47] <Izaya> Their motivation
isn't to make everyone pay
L495[08:13:48] <Turtle> Assuming for a
moment we have a software market of all free software and money is
earned via support
L496[08:13:50] <scj643> I thought vista
wasn't getting the upgrade
L497[08:13:57] <S3> I just explained it.
Some companies have a policy that states that if the products they
use can not be deducted on their taxes then they can not be
used.
L498[08:14:03] <Turtle> Companies will cut
costs by using whatever software requirees them to shell out the
least amount of money for support
L499[08:14:03] <S3> Even if they are
free
L500[08:14:03] <Izaya> if it's possible to
pirate but not easy
L501[08:14:11] <Turtle> If they even will
buy support, because manglement
L502[08:14:14] <S3> Talk about stupid
management
L503[08:14:16] <Izaya> so as people grow
up
L504[08:14:21] <scj643> Also time to get
motherboards to do the upgrade to sell them with windows 10
L505[08:14:26] <Izaya> theyget used to
Windows
L506[08:14:33] <Izaya> or PhotoShit
L507[08:14:35] <Turtle> This´ll lead to a
competition where software companies would literally kill their own
revenue for market share, which is not sustainable
L508[08:14:41] <Izaya> Or whatever
else
L509[08:15:13] <scj643> Photoshop piracy
is soo easy
L510[08:15:22] <Izaya> and as such their
place of employment ends up paying MS or Aderp
L511[08:15:31] <S3> Scj643- because it is
software
L512[08:15:34] <scj643> Literally a
patched DLL and done
L513[08:15:37] <S3> Software pact period
is ready
L514[08:15:40] <S3> Easy*
L515[08:15:47] <S3> Stupid phone
L516[08:15:53] <Izaya> so they can used
licensed versions because they're best with it
L517[08:16:01] <S3> Software piracy is
easy period*
L518[08:16:09] <scj643> Not always
L519[08:16:21] <Izaya> easy piracy is a
calculated loss
L520[08:16:27] <scj643> I've tried
pirating TI nspire not easy unless you can get a license key
L522[08:16:54] <gamax92> I pirated once
...
L523[08:16:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Depends on how far you define support. One example where the system
works could be similar to managed servers where you use free
software (Linux) but pay for people to have it set up for you. For
small companies thats certainly less expensive than getting a
proper system admin to do that kind of stuff.
L524[08:16:57] <gamax92> Got shot in the
eye.
L525[08:17:01] <S3> They said that about
Cisco ios though
L526[08:17:10] <S3> And that process to be
wrong
L527[08:17:11] <scj643> Of which was only
on a private torrent tracker which someone got me it and it
worked
L528[08:17:18] <S3> Proved
L529[08:17:43] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, the
problem is that that´s a niche market, it´s not going to work for
the entire software industry
L530[08:17:48] <S3> Gamax92 what
happened
L531[08:18:05] <scj643> He was joking
about pirates
L532[08:18:12] <gamax92> ^
L533[08:18:12] <scj643> If I'm
correct
L534[08:18:17] <Caitlyn> k, copying the
ogg file to my server and streaming it results in no skipping
L535[08:18:20] <scj643> Yay I am
correct
L536[08:18:28] <S3> Well at least it
wasn't an arrow to the knee
L537[08:18:35] <scj643> Nice Caitlyn
L538[08:18:58] <Caitlyn> It seems
streaming likes more than 3 kb/s up from the source server :P
L539[08:19:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Absolutely not. But most of the software written out there is
custom fittet for a specific job (at least from what I know) so
that software won't be made free anyway anytime soon. But the basic
software - the infrastructure if you will is a different
beast.
L540[08:20:14] <scj643> Only thing that
can't be pirated is services from servers
L541[08:20:22] <scj643> Like updates to
don't starve GOG
L542[08:20:28] <DeanIsaKitty> scj643:
Thats just called hacking then :)
L543[08:20:34] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, eh,
I doubt it. There´s plenty of large companies whose management
would rather lose a ton of production than spend half the lost
production on service fees.
L545[08:21:06] <scj643> Could just have a
bot guess keys and figure which doesn't get a 403 or 304
L546[08:21:10] <scj643> *4040
L547[08:21:13] <scj643> *404
L548[08:21:17] <scj643> Damn iPad
L549[08:21:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: I
really think that depends which way their bonuses will be higher
:D
L551[08:21:35] <scj643> No 404
L552[08:21:42] <scj643> Page not
found
L553[08:21:57] <scj643> To get updates
they use a cdn that has a key on it
L554[08:22:06] <S3> Just remember kids. If
you get a 4xx error it is ALWAYS -your- fault. According to the
standard
L556[08:22:25] <scj643> Just need to guess
keys which will take a while
L557[08:22:29] <Caitlyn> 418.
L558[08:22:31] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, heh,
probably.
L559[08:22:47] <scj643> Or just buy the
add on DLC for $5 and skip the $15 base game
L561[08:22:52] <MichiBot> Wed Oct 14
04:14:17 CDT 2015 @keirkettle: Http return code cheat sheet by
@aahoogendoorn at #softwarearchitect2015
http://t.co/x8grLOKIb0
L562[08:22:59] <S3> If it is a 5xx error
it is the servers fault according to standard:)
L563[08:23:07] <scj643> Since it only
checks the expansion key
L564[08:23:15] <Elizabeth> Caitlyn,
teapot
L565[08:23:21] <Caitlyn> \o/
L566[08:23:26] <SnowDapples> This is good
:D
L567[08:23:34] <scj643> That's funny
L568[08:23:57] <scj643> Going to make a
nice table of that someday with pictures and the middle
finger
L569[08:24:09] <Elizabeth> ...
L570[08:24:34] <Elizabeth> why the hell is
my laptop's tincd constantly sending packets yet all other tinc
stuff is fine
L571[08:25:00] <scj643> what's the benifit
of tinc
L573[08:25:44] <Elizabeth> easy layer 2
vpn between my devices and a few others like Izaya's &
Stary2001's
L574[08:25:45] <DeanIsaKitty> scj643:
Whats the benefit of any VPN?
L575[08:25:59] <scj643> I can get a $5
Amazon gift code but you can't use that on GOG
L576[08:27:50] <S3> Encrypt aes
information header with rsa8192 8192, encrypt rest of game with
aes512, by the time it's broken it won't matter anymore. CD key on
box is private key. Long ass cdkey
L577[08:28:10] <S3> Private key not stored
anywhere else
L579[08:28:35] <DeanIsaKitty> S3:
AES512?
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L581[08:28:52] <scj643> Oh wait you have
to have the base game on GOG damn
L582[08:29:04] <S3> Aes256 is probably
sufficient...
L583[08:29:28] <Kodos> New Who was
good
L584[08:29:36] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Apart
from the fact that AES is only speced up to 256 (there is no
AES512) you won't break that anyway anytime in your life.
L585[08:30:46] <S3> It's only spec'd to
256 but some proper 512 bit implementations have been done
L586[08:31:17] <S3> But yeah 256 is more
than sufficient
L587[08:31:58] <S3> The problem is getting
your players to enter in such s key. You could store the private
key encrypted and make the cdkey the passphrase but
L588[08:32:24] <DeanIsaKitty> Hell, AES128
will last longer than your lifetime
L589[08:32:24] <scj643> You can still gift
it I think
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L592[08:32:35] <S3> Depends
L593[08:32:46] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Rjindael
is up to whatever. AES is up to 256.
L594[08:32:47] <S3> Aes128 g has been
broken
L595[08:32:52] <S3> But it does take
computing power
L596[08:32:56] <scj643> Just need someone
to exchange the $5 Amazon for don't starve
L597[08:33:00] <DeanIsaKitty> AES 256 has
been broken
L598[08:33:16] <S3> Not unless that's
recent-
L599[08:33:17] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: EVERY
GODDAMN CIPHER OUT THERE HAS BEEN BROKEN. THAT IS THE POINT ABOUT
THEM
L600[08:33:18] <scj643> Any hacker would
have a botnet that could do it
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L603[08:33:30] <CodeNinja> IT ALWAYS
DEPENDS
L604[08:33:44] <DeanIsaKitty> The only
difference is computing power thats needed.
L605[08:33:49] <DeanIsaKitty> And AES256
has flaws.
L606[08:34:20] <DeanIsaKitty> It gets
broken differently than AES128.
L607[08:34:30] <DeanIsaKitty> And in just
a few years it may be less secure than AES128 from all that we
know.
L608[08:34:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Cryptography
is NOT linear. More bit keys does not equal more secure.
L609[08:35:17] <DeanIsaKitty> So please
don't expect Rjindael 512 to be secure AT ALL.
L610[08:35:38] <CodeNinja> With a powerful
enough computer, you could break any cipher. The security of any
encryption is the extreme amount of time required to crack it (if
it'll take longer than your lifespan, it's secure for most
things
L611[08:35:39] <S3> Here's what you
do
L612[08:35:50] <S3> Just shift all bits to
the left once
L613[08:35:58] ***
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L614[08:36:03] <S3> Nobody will ever
know..... Lololl
L615[08:36:12] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: The most
secure cipher is XOR-ing with a never-repeating keystream.
L616[08:36:25] <S3> I've heard that
L617[08:36:42] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Thats more or less true
L618[08:36:50] <S3> But you won't get a
never repeating key stem
L619[08:36:56] <S3> Stream*
L620[08:37:00] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Thats
why AES exists.
L621[08:38:45] <CodeNinja> Speaking of
encryption, has anyone managed to make a moderately secure comms
encryption system for OC or CC?
L622[08:39:00] <S3> I have a friend who
has a ceh now from college and is applying for the NSA. He went to
school down in Florida for security
L623[08:39:04] <S3> Fun stuff
L624[08:39:13] <CodeNinja> He must break
all the things
L625[08:39:18] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Moderately secure? Depends on who should not be able to
decrypt
L626[08:39:48] <S3> Codeninja: magic6k had
some suggestions....
L627[08:39:58] <S3> I needed rsa
L628[08:40:08] <S3> But I think he told me
of a better way
L629[08:40:16] <CodeNinja> A device other
than the intended reciever, able to hold secure under bruteforce of
one day
L630[08:40:35] <S3> And I was only needing
it for authentication to the ATM switches outside of
Minecraft
L631[08:40:49] <S3> Not for hiding
anything
L632[08:41:02] <CodeNinja> If anyones
willing to spend a day to decrypt a communication in a video game,
they have issues, or else way too much free time
L633[08:41:02] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Use the computronics cipher block
L634[08:41:18] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
What?
L635[08:41:22] *
CodeNinja goes to look up computronics
L636[08:41:42] <S3> Since the ATM switches
e sort of like proxy servers, I needed to authenticate then in a
more reliable eat
L638[08:42:00] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: There is
a pure Lua RSA implementation. But it is slow as hell.
L639[08:42:18] <CodeNinja> Basically I
want the only person able to read it is the intended receiving
computer. If it takes longer than a day to brute-force decrypt the
message, its OK
L640[08:42:35] <S3> Yeah. Well it's only
be run once. All implementations I saw in the lua wiki were not
complete or needed C libs
L641[08:44:15] <S3> Once they
authenticate, I can just start negotiating ATM/STM streams
L643[08:44:49] <scj643> Not able to get
dont starve key for GOG since they require the base game on your
account
L644[08:44:49] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Inside OC that is easy. If your opponent just copies the ciphertext
out and brute-force cracks it outside you out of luck with pure
Lua. The Cipher Block will work still.
L645[08:44:55] <S3> Deanisakitty, you
might actually like that project heh
L646[08:44:58] <DeanIsaKitty> It
implements AES and RSA iirc.
L647[08:45:12] <CodeNinja> This cipher
block looks acceptable
L648[08:45:13] <CodeNinja> At least
securing data on a computer is as easy as making sure your server
is not in offline mode
L649[08:45:19] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Are you
serious about good crypto in OC?
L650[08:45:37] <S3> Deanisakitty it's not
for OC
L651[08:45:49] <S3> Not the
encryption
L652[08:46:31] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Uhm..
ok?
L653[08:46:52] <S3> The point of rsa is
for authenticating with the level 1 ATM switches
L654[08:47:03] <S3> Which are not in
Minecraft.
L655[08:47:43] <CodeNinja> *incoming bad
assumption* if the program was properly (read: confusingly) coded,
ones opponent would have to reverse engineer the program to get the
ciphertext in the first place, or else have something listening on
the appropriate channel
L656[08:48:05] <CodeNinja> meaning
familiarity with OC and Lua
L657[08:48:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Uhm
L658[08:48:50] <S3> This is to help
prevent unauthorized traffic from the internet from being
routed
L659[08:48:58] <CodeNinja> Apparently
there is an Advanced Cipher Block that uses RSA...
L660[08:49:12] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Thats the one I was talking about :D
L661[08:49:15] <CodeNinja> There's no
documentation tho
L662[08:49:41] <CodeNinja> Im assuming the
methods are the same as the standard Cipher Block
L663[08:49:43] <S3> Codeninja: does it
also implement the improved diffie have lman algo?
L664[08:49:49] <S3> So you can ssh
L665[08:49:57] <S3> Helman*
L666[08:49:59] <CodeNinja> I have no
idea
L667[08:50:00] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Go poke Vex
L668[08:50:15] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja: I
think they only implement AES and RSA.
L669[08:50:18] <CodeNinja> /whois
Vexatos
L670[08:50:19] <DeanIsaKitty> *S3
L671[08:50:20] <S3> I'm headed to work.
IRC from phone is annoying
L674[08:52:30] <S3> So basically
deanisakitty I am working on implementing oc flavored ATM and
STM
L675[08:53:21] <S3> The purpose of STM is
to increase bandwidth
L676[08:53:36] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja: I
know, but there is no article about the adv cipher block :)
L677[08:53:57] <CodeNinja> Exactly
L678[08:54:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Thats why I
sent you the IG docs :P
L679[08:54:25] <CodeNinja> The
documentation you have given shows no functions tho
L680[08:56:04] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Poke Vex or have a look at the code, I can't help you with
Computronics
L681[08:56:40] <CodeNinja> OK, first I
have to learn Lua
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L683[08:56:49] <DeanIsaKitty> S3:
Asynchronous Transfer Mode or do you mean a different ATM?
L684[08:58:24] <CodeNinja> self
destructing card: APPROVED
L685[08:59:30] <CodeNinja> Wasn't there an
addon that allowed playing of any MC sound?
L686[08:59:47] <Caitlyn> MassSound
L687[09:00:08] <Caitlyn> Also,
OpenSecurity's Alarm, if enabled in the config
L690[09:04:38] <DeanIsaKitty> I'd guess
you know Java better than Lua then?
L691[09:04:55] <CodeNinja> Yes, I know
very little java, and no lua at all
L692[09:05:14] <CodeNinja> I know more
C++
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L695[09:08:03] <S3> ok im back
L696[09:08:42] <S3> DeanIsaKitty: but as I
was saying as I was getting disconnected like crazy is that I'm
basiclaly creating a packet switching circuit switched Internet for
Minecraft
L697[09:08:55] <S3> with dynamic
routing
L698[09:08:57] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Cool,
have fun
L699[09:09:07] <S3> it's not hard
L700[09:09:35] <S3> I gotta get Izaya to
test it
L701[09:10:31] <CodeNinja> wait, S3 is
implementing TCP/IP for Minecraft?
L702[09:10:33] <DeanIsaKitty> AHAHAHA have
fun :D
L703[09:11:29] <CodeNinja> We are
polylingual
L704[09:11:57] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Are you?
L705[09:12:15] <S3> CodeNinja: NO.
L706[09:12:26] <S3> we don't need IP
L707[09:12:29] <S3> and we don't need
TCP
L708[09:12:32] <CodeNinja> I speak
English, Latin, C++
L709[09:12:56] <S3> why would you use IP
of you have ATM + ISDN addressing? :P
L710[09:13:06] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Fucking casual :P
L711[09:13:09] <S3> its much easier to
implement and more appropriate
L712[09:13:31] <S3> and with the bitrate
we have using OC, ATM is much more reliable.
L713[09:13:59] <CodeNinja> why does the
internet use TCP/IP instead of something else?
L714[09:14:11] <S3> CodeNinja: you will
find the Internet uses more than TCP/IP
L715[09:14:28] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Apart from what S3 said, Arpanet.
L716[09:14:31] <S3> ATM is still a major
factor for many trunks
L717[09:14:37] <CodeNinja> Best security
ever: Use a transfer protocol noone supports, then send it thru a
TCP/IP tunnel.
L718[09:14:53] <DeanIsaKitty> a ... tcp
... tunnel ... ?
L719[09:15:03] <DeanIsaKitty> Oke, sure
have fun.
L720[09:15:14] *
CodeNinja actually has no idea what he's talking about
L721[09:15:37] <CodeNinja> To send data
over the interwebs, you have to use TCP/IP
L722[09:15:48] <CodeNinja> as far as I
know
L723[09:15:54] <DeanIsaKitty> I figured
that much.
L724[09:15:55] <DeanIsaKitty> You really
have no idea.
L725[09:15:57] <S3> CodeNinja: that's not
really true.
L726[09:16:04] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Thats
not even remotely true.
L727[09:16:25] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
The internet is an IP network. Its called Internet Protocol for a
reason.
L728[09:16:49] <DeanIsaKitty> What you use
above that (TCP, UDP, IPSec, .... ) is completely irelevant.
L729[09:16:56] <CodeNinja> I learn more
here than in class, and they still call it time wasting
L730[09:17:33] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Have a look at the OSI-stack. Wikipedia is pretty okayish on that
topic :)
L731[09:17:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Read that
and if you have questions poke S3 :P
L732[09:17:53] <S3> CodeNinja: just
because you're using IP doesn't mean everywhere in between is also
using it.
L733[09:18:05] <S3> there are still manu
active STM optical trunks out there.
L734[09:18:12] <S3> many*
L735[09:18:20] <S3> well SONET
derived..
L736[09:19:26] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Are
there still serious X.25 networks that you know of?
L737[09:19:34] <CodeNinja> Is Instant
messaging just a fancy version of IRC, or is it something
else?
L738[09:19:41] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
something else
L739[09:19:45] <DeanIsaKitty> XMPP
i.e.
L740[09:19:59] <DeanIsaKitty> facebook is
just glorified XMPP. So is GMail actually
L741[09:20:32] <CodeNinja> so they are two
different protocols?
L742[09:20:42] <S3> DeanIsaKitty: X.25?
No. But I'm sure they exist in communities with older
telecommunication models that updated in an unfortunate time
:P
L743[09:20:44] <DeanIsaKitty> IRC and
XMPP? Yes, very much so.
L744[09:21:25] <S3> CodeNinja: when you do
a traceroute, you're getting a good idea of the path your data
takes to get somewhere else. but what you are seeing is the IP
network that makes up the Internet
L745[09:21:46] <S3> CodeNinja: have you
ever thought about what happens in between some (not all) of those
routers?
L746[09:21:54] <S3> sometimes there's more
going on
L747[09:21:56] <CodeNinja> So IRC is a
protocol, not just an abbreviation for Internet Relay Chat or
something like that
L748[09:22:10] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
It is both actually :D
L749[09:22:34] <DeanIsaKitty> CodeNinja:
Hey, if you want we can meet up in a Mumble server some time and
talk about networking for a few hours ;)
L750[09:22:43] <CodeNinja> Ive often
wondered how a bunch of people way smarter than me figured out a
way to fire only packets of data at a time without messing stuff
up
L751[09:22:44] <DeanIsaKitty> But I g2g
for now :P
L752[09:22:59] <CodeNinja> I dont have
mumble, and if i did, id use a voice changer
L753[09:23:18] <S3> CodeNinja: there are
trunking protocols out therer that take hundreds of incoming frames
at a time and interleave them in the same jumbo frame, for
example
L754[09:23:26] <S3> like STM
L755[09:23:43] <S3> otherwise, it would
tax the switches
L756[09:23:48] <CodeNinja> Choosing a
profession will be difficult for me
L757[09:24:02] <S3> its useful for massive
trunks like transatlantic fiber to another continent
L758[09:24:29] <S3> where IP routing would
just bottleneck more than it needs to
L759[09:24:56] <S3> anyways enough ranting
out of me :)
L760[09:25:08] <CodeNinja> Its educational
ranting
L761[09:25:11] <S3> CodeNinja: my whole
point was that you shouldn't think that 100% of the Internet is all
IP.
L762[09:25:25] <CodeNinja> I dont
L763[09:25:27] <S3> an to be honest with
you, I prefer UDP over TCP
L764[09:25:30] <CodeNinja> not
anymore
L765[09:25:49] <S3> because with UDP I
have a bit more control over what part of my data is reliable and
what is not, etc.
L766[09:26:04] <S3> plus reliable UDP has
the potention to be much faster than TCP
L767[09:26:17] <S3> it just so happens
that "everybody" started using TCP and join the
bandwagon.
L768[09:26:42] <CodeNinja> what goes on
inside that little box called a router after I put an RJ-45
connector on both ends of a CAT-6 cable and plug it in to my PC and
the router
L769[09:26:45] <S3> people believe that
you should always use TCP for reliability and UDP for lossy
crap
L770[09:26:52] <S3> which is not a good
way to think about it
L771[09:27:15] <S3> CodeNinja: you create
a potential difference :P
L773[09:27:51] <CodeNinja> what, I can
install hardware better than most of my relatives, and i havent
even graduated
L774[09:27:57] <Skye|ZZZ> S3, TCP copes
with NAT better
L775[09:27:58] <CodeNinja> from high
school
L776[09:28:11] <CodeNinja> ALL THESE
ACRONYMS
L777[09:28:16] <Elizabeth> NAT should not
have to be a thing
L778[09:28:20] <S3> Skye|ZZZ: right, but
thats the thing
L779[09:28:24] <CodeNinja> ITS WORSE THAN
THE MILITARY
L780[09:28:24] <S3> ^^^^^
L781[09:28:31] <S3> Elizabeth: took the
words right out of my mouth
L782[09:29:14] <S3> NAT is evil.
L783[09:29:23] <Skye|ZZZ> I think you can
use UDP with NAT if you do it careful
L784[09:29:37] <S3> it works fine
Skye|ZZZ
L785[09:29:45] <S3> I do UDP NAT all the
time with private virtual servers
L786[09:29:47] <CodeNinja> NAT: because
not everyone uses IPv6 yet
L787[09:29:48] <Elizabeth> fuck you too,
virt-manager
L788[09:30:11] <Elizabeth> CodeNinja, no,
NAT: because everyone was too lazy to switch earlier
L789[09:30:46] <Skye|ZZZ> CG-NAT: because
ISPs hate us.
L790[09:30:49] <S3> Skye|ZZZ: what you're
thinking about, is the biproduct of home NAT routers I think, which
makes many things a pita.
L791[09:30:52] <CodeNinja> Laziness,
misguided reluctance to spend money, incompetence, same
results
L792[09:30:57] <S3> thanks to ISPs
L793[09:31:22] <S3> and NAT also exists in
IPv6, it's just frowned upon, if you do it I will get mad.
L794[09:31:28] <S3> VERY mad.
L795[09:31:45] <Elizabeth> you shouldn't
need to do NAT with IPv6
L796[09:31:50] <S3> exactly
L797[09:31:58] <Elizabeth> #lua
2^128
L798[09:31:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
3.4028236692094e+38
L799[09:32:02] <Elizabeth> .-.
L800[09:32:17] <Skye|ZZZ> NAT can kinda be
considered a firewall. a bad one
L801[09:32:20] <CodeNinja> whats the
difference btwn IPv4 and IPv6, other than longer #'s?
L802[09:32:32] <Skye|ZZZ> CodeNinja: more
numbers
L803[09:32:36] <Elizabeth> CodeNinja, much
larger address space
L804[09:32:51] <S3> CodeNinja: not much
except that you have ICMP6 and stuff like that which is useful for
connecting ipv6 networks
L805[09:32:59] <Elizabeth> IPv4 has about
4 billion (3.7 billion are actually publicly routable)
L806[09:33:12] <S3> ICMPv6 place a very
important role in IPv6
L807[09:33:53] <CodeNinja> I have to
switch to an imaged lab PC
L808[09:33:54] <S3> but the routing is the
same EXCEPT, a properly configured IPv6 network can route faster
than an IPv4, even though IPv6 is 128 bits and IPv4 is 32.
L809[09:33:54] <Elizabeth> IPv6 has
340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 many unique
addresses
L810[09:34:03] ⇦
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L811[09:34:24] <S3> which is hard to
imagine, but a proper set of IPv6 routes allow the IPv6 router to
assume routing destinations, unlike in IPv4
L812[09:34:27] <Elizabeth> which in words
is supposedly:
L813[09:34:27] <Elizabeth> 340
undecillion, 282 decillion, 366 nonillion, 920 octillion, 938
septillion, 463 sextillion, 463 quintillion, 374 quadrillion, 607
trillion, 431 billion, 768 million, 211 thousand and 456
L814[09:34:34] <S3> so it doesn't even
have to spend time on the routing table figuring it out
L816[09:35:38] <Elizabeth> lol
L817[09:36:24] <S3> codeninja left s
L819[09:36:30] <S3> I think we fried his
brain
L820[09:36:45] <Elizabeth> scj643, will
work on Softether more later, qemu's vm manager doesn't like me at
the moment
L822[09:37:01] <S3> what are you
using?
L823[09:37:13] <S3> I am migrating my
virtualization backend to libvirt
L824[09:37:13] <Elizabeth> ?
L825[09:37:28] <S3> I've been writing a
virtualization management backend in Perl
L826[09:37:58] <S3> uses JSON sockets so
you can connect to it from your website and add buttons, etc to
start stop shutdown, query VMs etc of many hypervirts
L827[09:38:05] <S3> xen, kvm,
openvz...
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L832[09:41:55] <Ivoah> When did hover
boots give the slowness debuf?
L833[09:42:04] <Ivoah> And is there an
option to turn it off?
L834[09:42:38] <Elizabeth> my vms use
either qemu-kvm or libvirt
L835[09:43:00] <Elizabeth> are they
powered?
L836[09:43:01] <CodeNinja> use nanobots,
give yourself speed
L837[09:44:21] <Vexatos> Ivoah, you get it
once they get discharged
L838[09:44:24] <Ivoah> Is there a wiki
page for nanobots?
L839[09:44:32] <Ivoah> Vexatos: But I'm
not using any power mods
L840[09:44:50] <Vexatos> well then
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L842[09:44:56] <Vexatos> SANGAR FIX YER
MOD
L843[09:45:32] <Ivoah> I just got a pair
of fully charged boots from the creative menu and destroyed my
uncharged pair
L844[09:45:39] <Ivoah> they shouldn't
discharge, right?
L845[09:45:41] <CodeNinja> Vexatos is
angry...
L847[09:45:52] <Vexatos> Ivoah, probably
not in no-power mode
L848[09:45:56] <Vexatos> sounds like a
bug
L849[09:45:58] <Ivoah> mkay
L850[09:45:59] <S3> oh hey CodeNinja you
dissapeared from us
L851[09:46:07] <Ivoah> Should I report it
on the tracker?
L852[09:46:28] <S3> what did I do to make
Vexatos mad
L853[09:46:35] <CodeNinja> I did, had to
switch computers
L854[09:46:41] <S3> CodeNinja: lol
L855[09:46:54] <Elizabeth> CodeNinja, IPv6
has 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 many unique
addresses, which in words is: 340 undecillion, 282 decillion, 366
nonillion, 920 octillion, 938 septillion, 463 sextillion, 463
quintillion, 374 quadrillion, 607 trillion, 431 billion, 768
million, 211 thousand and 456
L856[09:46:59] <S3> you missed the most
awesome feature of ipv6 :P
L857[09:47:14] <CodeNinja> Vexatos said
"SANGAR FIX YER MOD"
L858[09:48:00] ***
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L859[09:48:01] <S3> CodeNinja: since you
weren't around, to fry your brain a bit, ipv6 is 128 bit and ipv4
is 32 bit. a properly configured collection ov IPv6 subnets can
route faster than IPv4. it's your homework to find out why :)
L860[09:48:07] <S3> since you were
absent
L862[09:50:44] <CodeNinja> In short, we
wont run out of IP addresses until the number of things with
addresses is over one trillion times the current world
population
L863[09:51:14] <S3> Vexatos: LOL!
L864[09:51:23] <S3> That is great
L865[09:51:26] <scj643> Lol
Elizabeth
L866[09:51:52] <S3> CodeNinja: ipv7 gives
us like, more than a quadrillion ip addresses per square foot of
the earth's surface.
L867[09:52:10] <S3> I forgot the absolute
number
L868[09:52:17] <CodeNinja> you mean v6,
right?
L869[09:52:19] <S3> but it's more than a
quadrillion
L872[09:52:34] <S3> O almost typed 5 that
time lol
L873[09:53:08] <CodeNinja> Introducing
IPv8, because we count by twos and have now colonized space,
creating a need for even more IP addresses
L874[09:53:27] <CodeNinja> Combined with
the fact that everything depends on the internet
L875[09:53:39] <Ivoah> IPv∞
L876[09:55:05] <S3> Elizabeth: well
whaddya ya know!
L877[09:55:15] <S3> I came into work and
my boss says we're now at war over port security.
L878[09:55:25] <S3> with networking
L879[09:55:56] <CodeNinja> Is your boss
competent?
L880[09:56:18] <S3> he's not stupid
L881[09:56:20] <S3> that's for sure
L882[09:56:28] <S3> but I am -the-
sysadmin
L883[09:56:41] <S3> I tell him what I need
and he gets it
L884[09:56:52] <S3> if I need port
security lifted for some ports then he does it
L885[09:57:13] <S3> but the campus
networking department is the one that actually does it
L886[10:00:01] <CodeNinja> are THEY
incompetent?
L887[10:00:09] <S3> sometimes
L888[10:00:14] <S3> they are lying
L889[10:00:24] <S3> they said policy
states they can't do it
L890[10:00:27] <S3> I've seen their
policies
L891[10:00:34] <S3> so they're writting
new policies right now.
L892[10:00:54] <S3> how do I know this? I
used to work over there :P
L893[10:01:36] <S3> CodeNinja, Elizabeth,
I'll tell an interesting scenario of my university
L894[10:01:43] <CodeNinja> OK
L895[10:01:47] <S3> everyone on my campus
gets a globally routable IPv4 address.
L896[10:01:59] <S3> over 10,000+ people
per day commute
L897[10:02:21] <S3> we have the bandwidth
to serve everyone, because we preactically own the state fiber
line
L899[10:02:47] <CodeNinja> But?
L900[10:02:52] <S3> so we have a /16
IPv4
L901[10:03:05] <S3> which is a massive
chunk. you wonder where all the ipv4 addresses went?
L902[10:03:06] <S3> here.
L903[10:03:22] <Cazzar> And my uni
:P
L905[10:03:31] <S3> anyways
L906[10:03:48] <Cazzar> Well, I don't work
there, though each device is globally routable
L907[10:04:03] <S3> a while ago, we
decided we needed more so we got additionally some Carrier Grade
NAT assigned for us
L908[10:04:06] <S3> a /16
L909[10:04:09] <S3> it was filled within 1
semester
L910[10:04:21] <S3> ANd the global space
as well is still about
L911[10:04:29] <S3> I was working over in
IT
L912[10:04:44] <S3> and they have had IPv6
ready to deploy for a while
L913[10:05:04] <S3> its all set, all
global, it jkust needs to be dispersed
L914[10:05:09] <S3> they refused to do
it
L915[10:05:13] <S3> guess why?
L916[10:05:25] <CodeNinja> Cost?
L917[10:05:31] <CodeNinja> Laziness?
L918[10:05:36] <CodeNinja>
Incompetence?
L919[10:05:40] <S3> ONE REASON: They were
afraid people would share IP addresses.
L920[10:05:40] <CodeNinja>
Stupidity?
L922[10:05:48] <Skye|ZZZ> Wot
L923[10:05:50] <Skye|ZZZ> Wot
L924[10:05:55] <CodeNinja> that falls
under incompetence
L925[10:06:06] <Skye|ZZZ> Isn't that the
opposite of what IPv6 does.
L926[10:06:11] <CodeNinja> stupidity as
well
L928[10:06:32] <S3> Skye|ZZZ: ICMPv6 can
even do neighbor checks to machines outside of the network
L929[10:06:41] <S3> it is extremely smart
and versatile
L930[10:07:00] <S3> machines will NOT
assign themselves addresses that fail the icmpv6 neighbor discovery
check
L931[10:07:10] <S3> during an RA
L932[10:07:28] <Skye|ZZZ> IPv6 is
awesome
L933[10:07:50] <CodeNinja> Attributed to
Einstien: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human
stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
L934[10:08:30] <Skye|ZZZ> S3, do you have
any power to force them to deploy IPv6 somehow?
L935[10:09:11] <S3> not really.
L936[10:10:58] <S3> Not unless I become
head of IT
L937[10:11:08] <Skye|ZZZ> Aww
L938[10:11:23] <S3> I already have an IPv6
tinc network setup
L939[10:11:34] <S3> on all my servers and
my apartment and my friends' appartments etc
L940[10:11:40] <S3> we can just share
services all day etc
L941[10:11:52] <Skye|ZZZ> Heh
L942[10:12:09] <S3> sometimes somebody
changes my chromecast's name to something from cards against
humanity but
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L944[10:14:19] <Turtle> So, there´s been a
bit of talking about ip, any OC standards for network routing yet?
.-.
L945[10:15:15] <Vexatos> Magik6k has
something .-.
L946[10:15:17] <S3> Turtle: I am working
on something you might like.
L947[10:15:40] <Turtle> S3, running a
modded server, I need something that maintains a bit of sanity when
building an ISP .-.
L948[10:15:51] <Turtle> (Some goofs want
to link up their bases, ohwell.)
L949[10:15:55] <S3> Turtle: then you will
LOVE my project.
L950[10:16:08] <Skye|ZZZ> I want to make
my own network standard, but at the same time, I don't want
to.
L951[10:16:14] <Turtle> I don´t need
working code, a good standard/protocol would be great :p
L952[10:16:14] <S3> I'm getting near
actually writing the code for it. been planning its ins and outs
for the past month.
L953[10:16:32] <S3> Turtle: I will write
it up
L954[10:16:44] <S3> it is Open Computers'
flavored ATM & STM
L955[10:16:51] <S3> with ISDN style
addressing
L956[10:16:53] <Turtle> hang on, did
microcontrollers support closing network sides again?
L957[10:16:59] <Turtle> I forgot to test
when I was told ages ago
L958[10:17:02] <Turtle> S3, ooh
shiny
L959[10:17:34] <S3> Turtle: ATM gives us
very stable, easy to dynamically route 1KB/s streams. sitting on
top of STM, we can achieve maximum bandwidth of default relay
configurations- about 160KB/s
L960[10:18:02] <S3> it is like T1 / T3
where to get more bandwidth you just tie as many 1KB/s lines
together as you need and shove them through STM
L961[10:18:25] <S3> so if you need 4KB/s,
grab 5 1KB/s lines. which is enough to transmit audio streams using
the data tapes.
L962[10:18:34] <S3> all on the same
wire
L963[10:18:36] *
Magik6k made that self-routing api on network disk
L964[10:18:42] <Magik6k> And it needs a
rewrite
L965[10:19:09] <Turtle> S3, err, I didn´t
need an in depth generic data networking thing, just something that
routes messages sanely :p
L966[10:19:11] <S3> Turtle: the routing
schema of the ATM network is dynamically configured using PNNI and
most of the work is all done for you
L968[10:19:29] <S3> Turtle: well, true-
but if you want to help me make an "internet" for
Minecraft
L969[10:19:32] <S3> that's what I am
doing
L970[10:19:33] <S3> cross server.
L971[10:19:43] <Turtle> cross server is
somewhat trivial
L972[10:19:49] <Turtle> just create a
TCP/HTTP bridge
L973[10:19:51] <S3> it is very trivial
with this design
L974[10:19:52] <Magik6k> Turtle, the
network floppy is as zeroconf as it can get
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L979[10:20:26] <S3> Turtle: vifino and
maybe somebody else will be running level 1 ATM switches as an
ISP
L980[10:20:37] <S3> if you want to make
ISPs, you could become a layer 1 or layer 2... or more
L981[10:20:50] <S3> level 1 or level
2*
L982[10:21:00] <S3> it's very simple
L983[10:21:03] <Turtle> S3, I just need
something that is slightly better than having a giant row of relays
with linked cards in them :p
L984[10:21:08] <gamax92> pixelmon worst
thing ever
L985[10:21:08] <S3> I just give you a
block of addresses
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L990[10:21:35] <Turtle> gamax92,
hmm?
L991[10:21:39] <S3> still, if you're
interested later when it starts rolling out, please help
participate in forming our OCRANET :)
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L993[10:21:54] <S3> name courtesy of
CompanionCube
L994[10:22:00] <Magik6k> ohwait, S3, do
you have code forthat?
L995[10:22:27] <S3> Magik6k: just about to
start. I have been planning all of the conflicts betweeen OC and
IRL ATM for the past month
L996[10:22:54] <S3> itl be simple set of
protocols: AAL5, ATM, STM, and PNNI
L997[10:22:57] <CodeNinja> stupid school
softwrae that doesnt work properly and only works at all on
IE
L998[10:23:08] <gamax92> gotta wait
through adfly, 5 seconds, gotta wait through their download
counter, 11 seconds. "launcher" is actually a 32bit exe
to install a .NET based launcher
L999[10:23:20] <Magik6k> And do you intend
to route between linked/wireless/normal using servers?
L1000[10:23:25] <Turtle> gamax92, ...
F
L1001[10:23:45] <gamax92> a bunch of side
mods are only available through their launcher because their
website is outdated
L1002[10:23:49] <S3> yep. OCBSD will just
see those all as ifconfig interfaces, but I mean I plan to port it
to OpenOS
L1003[10:23:57] <S3> so to OCBSD it wont
matter what you use
L1004[10:24:00] <Magik6k> If so I'd love
to get it to replace current network stack in plan9k
L1005[10:24:09] <gamax92> is closed
source, and to make an side mod you have to be a pixelmon developer
or something like that
L1006[10:25:13] <S3> Magik6k: I intend
OCBSD to have a network stack that is sort of independant. What I
plan to do is in /sys/net, have a collection of socket files, but
there are socket "collections" where if you open them it
makes a stack for you dependent on the parameters you pass
L1007[10:25:26] <S3> that way I don't
have to fix myself on one networking stack
L1008[10:25:46] <Magik6k> hmm
L1009[10:26:24] <S3> but that's just one
way of doing it
L1010[10:26:50] <S3> I messed with
ethernet using the RPC in redpower and that was boring :(
L1011[10:26:53] <S3> ethernet is
boring
L1012[10:27:06] <S3> with ATM it forms
more of a telecom network
L1013[10:27:27] <S3> and I will be
running a france atm switch, somebody else plans to run one in the
US
L1014[10:27:36] <S3> but you don't
"have" to connect to them
L1015[10:27:38] <CodeNinja> rewrite
pixelmon then
L1016[10:27:50] <Magik6k> I may run one
on 1 GiB server in france
L1017[10:28:02] <S3> Magik6k: there is
just one limitation I have run into which I wonder if you would
have any insight
L1018[10:28:09] <Magik6k>
s/GiB/Gbps
L1019[10:28:09] <Kibibyte>
<Magik6k> I may run one on 1 Gbps server in france
L1021[10:28:29] <CodeNinja> relavent
code: AnimationAPI, ExU Golden Lasso or MFR thingy
L1022[10:29:01] <CodeNinja> This person
knows nothing about coding, just knows mod items with approriate
functions
L1023[10:29:37] <Magik6k> S3, what is
it?
L1024[10:30:26] <S3> Magik6k: the problem
is that the in game ATM switches, I found that if I have multiple
interfaces, I couldn't figure out how to actually direct network
traffic in a way that it doesn't repeat between machines.I guess
ill throw an example
L1025[10:30:32] <S3> if I have computers
A B and C
L1026[10:30:36] <S3> A ---- B -----
C
L1027[10:30:50] <S3> if A sends a
broadcast message, C will get the message too.
L1028[10:30:58] <S3> I thought that ws
kind of weird.
L1029[10:31:09] <S3> since the cables
were on seperate sides of the box
L1030[10:31:42] <CodeNinja> are these
computers on a ring network?
L1031[10:31:53] <Magik6k> You are talking
about how OC networking works now right?
L1032[10:31:57] <Magik6k> S3 ^
L1033[10:32:16] <S3> how network
components communicate through the cables, yes
L1034[10:32:32] <Magik6k> I had same
problem
L1035[10:32:55] <Magik6k> Just use
servers with 1net card add linked cards
L1036[10:33:05] <Magik6k> or wait for oc
1.6 racks
L1038[10:34:16] <S3> one of the ways to
fix it is to send to the addresses, but it would make the program
more stateless if it doesn't know where it's going
L1039[10:34:25] <S3> or doesn't care
physically*
L1040[10:35:13] <S3> the other way I
found was to have multiple servers and each server was an
interface.. but that seemed a bit harsh
L1041[10:35:34] <Magik6k> ewwnonono
L1042[10:35:38] <S3> exactly
L1043[10:35:44] <S3> I thought the
same
L1044[10:36:03] <S3> what will 1.6 racks
do for us?
L1045[10:36:27] <Magik6k> epic
things
L1047[10:36:43] <S3> are linked cards
wireless or do they run by cable?
L1048[10:36:55] <Magik6k> linked are
wireless
L1049[10:37:08] <Magik6k> and work across
dimenions
L1050[10:37:13] <S3> hmm.
L1051[10:37:30] <S3> I might be able to
do this..
L1052[10:37:36] <S3> I could modify PNNI
a bit
L1053[10:37:41] <S3> which is our dynamic
routing protocol
L1054[10:38:03] <S3> so that it
broadcasts but then the individual nodes unicast using lan cards
using the PNNI routing info
L1055[10:38:13] <Magik6k> My networking
had L1 driver interface to which interface drivers later registered
it's inteffaces.
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L1057[10:40:11] <S3> yeah I think that
may be the best way to do it, the information from PNNI's dynamic
routing advertising can be used to build unicast paths.
L1058[10:40:23] <S3> and then the lan
card can just transmit to that address
L1059[10:40:36] <S3> the PNNI would send
broadcast
L1060[10:41:07] <S3> PNNI itself is
checked anyways for the correct data
L1061[10:41:17] <S3> it will ignore any
machine who is not a peer leader.
L1062[10:41:42] <S3> and the cool thing
Magik6k about atm if you didn;t know is if the peer leader goes
down all of the ATM switches pull a vote on who is the next peer
leader.
L1063[10:41:45] <S3> all automatic
L1064[10:42:00] <Magik6k> nice
L1065[10:42:03] <S3> yeah.
L1066[10:42:06] <CodeNinja> what is with
this web filter
L1067[10:42:30] <S3> Magik6k: I like that
server UI
L1068[10:42:35] <Magik6k> Won't it break
when switching AP using tablet with wifi card?
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L1070[10:43:20] <scj643> What happened in
the past hour
L1071[10:43:23] <S3> Magik6k: well, your
tablet shouldn't be in a peer group.
L1073[10:43:40] <S3> peer groups are
really for the "fathering levels:
L1075[10:44:14] <CodeNinja> Everyone else
talked about network stuff and I made unintelligent comments
L1076[10:44:16] <S3> oh wait I see what
you mean. yeah. there is that problem. We can fix that though
Magik6k
L1077[10:44:26] *
Magik6k didn't dig into ATM yet
L1078[10:44:28] <scj643> Been working
with Python and pushbullet since it has the best API
L1079[10:44:34] <S3> I will need to take
a look over and recall how handoffs work on cell phone towers,
Magik6k
L1080[10:44:44] <S3> that is probably how
wireless will be handled.
L1081[10:44:58] <S3> because the numbers
need to remain the same
L1082[10:45:05] <scj643> Only issue I'm
having with Pushbullet is how do I verify the server
L1083[10:45:19] <S3> problem: somebody is
borrowing one of my telecom books from college
L1084[10:47:40] <S3> yeah if I can get
the technical details of how a cell phone keeps its phone number
during a handover between cell phone carrier networks then we
should be fine
L1085[10:48:22] <CompanionCube> isn't ATM
the foundation of a large segment of the world's broadband?
L1086[10:48:33] <S3> yes.
L1087[10:48:36] <scj643> Wouldn't UUID
work better for ID
L1088[10:48:42] <S3> scj643: no.
L1089[10:48:46] <scj643> Ok
L1090[10:48:53] <S3> scj643: but guess
what
L1091[10:48:53] <scj643> I'm ignorant
about what is going on
L1092[10:49:15] <S3> I modified ATM to
fit OC UUIDs for mac addresses instead of 6 byte ones.
L1093[10:49:41] <scj643> Nice
L1094[10:49:44] <S3> yep.
L1095[10:49:49] <Magik6k> hmh
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L1097[10:49:52] <scj643> So what is the
range we get
L1098[10:49:57] <S3> but for routing the
ISDN addressing scheme is used
L1099[10:50:12] <S3> you could use
something else if you don't like it.. but IDSN works fine
L1100[10:50:19] <S3> it is "easy to
subnet"
L1101[10:50:29] <Magik6k> I wonder if
some DHT based meshnet wouldn't be simpler(to use ofc)
L1102[10:50:31] <scj643> Ok
L1103[10:50:31] <S3> easier than ip
imp
L1104[10:50:34] <S3> imo*
L1105[10:50:49] <scj643> How will we get
around the max component issue of computers
L1106[10:51:02] <S3> relays and atm
switches :P
L1107[10:51:09] <scj643> Ok
L1108[10:51:23] <scj643> Will the default
OC setup work with this
L1109[10:51:32] <S3> I recommend
deploying a relay between your telephone line (if you use immersive
engineering) and your in house wiring
L1110[10:51:36] <S3> for connecting to
the network
L1111[10:51:40] <Magik6k> In oc1.6 it
will be T2-3 server with 4 net cards
L1112[10:51:53] <scj643> Ok
L1113[10:52:29] <scj643> Time to work on
my server again might do another world reset because I need to
remove bloat
L1114[10:53:06] <Kodos> Whose bright idea
was it for me to watch a tear jerker movie before a doctor
appointment
L1115[10:53:10] <scj643> Any
objection
L1116[10:55:04] <scj643> .....
L1117[10:55:23] <S3> scj643: why you
do
L1118[10:55:35] <scj643> Do what?
L1119[10:55:42] <S3> you need to stop
screwing with it.
L1120[10:55:47] <scj643> Ok
L1121[10:55:49] <S3> you're supposed to
be hosting an Open Computers server
L1122[10:55:59] <S3> so come up with
something and keep it. plan it out :)
L1123[10:56:05] <S3> here's what I wanted
to do last night
L1124[10:56:16] <scj643> That's my plan
right now
L1125[10:56:20] <S3> I wanted to start a
survival map and build a dormitory for our fellow Open Computers
players
L1126[10:56:23] <Elizabeth> home
time
L1127[10:56:28] <S3> and then set up OC
labs
L1128[10:56:28] <scj643> Nice
L1129[10:56:40] <S3> something
presentable for the OC community
L1130[10:56:48] <S3> but we need a good
map to do it
L1131[10:57:13] <S3> BOP is also
nice...
L1132[10:57:18] <S3> makes it look less
like crap
L1133[10:57:23] <scj643> BOP?
L1134[10:57:27] <S3> Biomes O
Plenty
L1135[10:57:31] <scj643> Oh
L1136[10:57:34] <S3> I put it on every
server I run
L1137[10:57:39] <S3> because the default
biomes are so bore.
L1138[10:58:44] <scj643> Ok so I'm going
to have to add that
L1139[10:59:05] <scj643> Also going to
have to find a permissions solution think forge essentials will
work
L1140[10:59:13] <S3> why do we need a
permissions mod?
L1141[10:59:54] <S3> here's what I was
thinking
L1142[11:00:21] <scj643> Well forge
essentials integrates with fakeplayers from forge
L1143[11:00:32] <S3> BOP, IE, Imersive
Integration, OC, Computronics, maybe some more addons for it,
Mystcraft, and a few others.
L1144[11:00:40] <S3> purpose of
mystcraft: a portal for a creative map.
L1145[11:00:45] <S3> and whatever
else
L1146[11:00:48] <scj643> Don't need
myst
L1148[11:00:55] <scj643> Forge essentials
multi world
L1149[11:01:00] <S3> that works
then
L1150[11:01:28] <scj643> And an inventory
per dimension mod
L1151[11:01:31] <S3> any other tech mods
you can come up with
L1152[11:01:41] <scj643> S3 do you use
any thing that has collaboration
L1153[11:01:49] <S3> what do you
mean?
L1154[11:01:57] <scj643> I use one
note
L1155[11:02:08] <scj643> Something where
we can put this stuff down
L1156[11:02:30] <scj643> Also going to
have to come up with a way of donating to Elizabeth
L1157[11:02:33] <S3> oh. No I mean google
docs usually works fine.
L1158[11:02:40] <scj643> Ok
L1159[11:02:56] <scj643> Though docs for
iOS sucks
L1160[11:03:51] <S3> Magik6k: due to the
size of UUIDs, we can technically register certain UUIDs as
mobile
L1161[11:04:13] <S3> and then perform
routing based on "last registered to" algorithms
L1162[11:04:21] <gamax92> S3: so how many
bits are in a uuid that you'd get from oc?
L1163[11:04:24] <S3> this would also work
well with moving and handoffs
L1164[11:04:34] <gamax92> like how many
bits change
L1165[11:04:44] <S3> well looking at the
size of the addressing packets gamax92 it looks like we can use the
full 128 bits.
L1166[11:04:59] <S3> the data will be
longer but wont exceed the cell size
L1167[11:04:59] <gamax92> no no no, how
many bits change in a uuid that you get from oc
L1169[11:05:23] <dangranos> hm
L1170[11:05:39] <dangranos> back to the
future is going to be entirely in the past after tomorrow...
L1171[11:05:48] <S3> gamax92: how would
you do it?
L1172[11:06:18] <gamax92> 128 - 4 (one
digit is always a 4) - 1 (one digit is always 8/9/a/b)
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L1174[11:07:18] <scj643> S3 what do you
think
L1175[11:08:29] <S3> scj643: ?!
L1177[11:08:59] <scj643> The pm
link
L1178[11:09:01] <gamax92> actually that'd
be -2 not -1
L1179[11:09:08] <S3> it just shows a
couple sentences
L1180[11:09:17] <gamax92> 122 bits are
changeable, despite there being 128 bits in total.
L1181[11:09:33] <S3> Magik6k: I just
remembered that there are some reserved address types which were
never assigned in the ATM addressing data
L1182[11:09:43] <scj643> You should be
able to edit it
L1183[11:09:53] <S3> we could have
another addressing scheme just for mobile types that is compatible
with normal PNNI based dynamic routing
L1184[11:10:26] <S3> it would be an easy
way for switches to differentiate the types of routing
L1185[11:10:53] <gamax92> S3: y u no
listen.
L1186[11:10:58] <S3> gamax92: what
L1187[11:11:14] <gamax92> You never even
answered and when I told you the answer you ignored.
L1188[11:11:33] <S3> gamax92: well I'm
not exactly sure why you are telling me this
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L1190[11:12:42] <scj643> CodeNinja: we
are going through a reset and setting up properly
L1191[11:13:05] <CodeNinja> Setting up
your server?
L1193[11:13:32] <CodeNinja> Just remember
if its whitelisted that CodeNinja is NOT my IGN
L1194[11:13:41] <S3> the endpoint
indentifier MEI will be used for aliasing interfaces in OCBSD
L1195[11:14:01] <S3> gives you up to 256
sub interfaces :)
L1196[11:14:31] <scj643> S3 should we be
white listed or no
L1197[11:14:49] <S3> aren't you intending
it to be the community OC server?
L1198[11:14:54] <S3> why whitelist
that
L1199[11:15:07] <scj643> Just a question
that needed to come up
L1200[11:15:17] <scj643> I'm fully
planing this one out
L1201[11:16:47] <CodeNinja> good for
you
L1202[11:17:00] <Skye|ZZZ> Use a white
list until you're sure it's stable enough
L1203[11:17:04] <scj643> Ok
L1204[11:17:20] <CodeNinja> Planning on
adding any quality-of-life mods like Bibliocraft or Natura?
L1205[11:17:26] <scj643> Yes
L1206[11:17:30] <scj643> Biblio
craft
L1207[11:17:38] <scj643> No natura but
biomes o plenty
L1208[11:17:50] <CodeNinja> Can you post
the modlist?
L1209[11:18:08] <Skye|ZZZ> scj643: will
it have ICs?
L1210[11:18:53] <scj643> It might can't
have PRs version since waila will kick you from the server if one
is placed
L1211[11:19:06] <scj643> IC will be on it
once it's a little more stable
L1212[11:19:27] <CodeNinja> Im editing
the modlist ATM
L1214[11:19:36] <CompanionCube> so very
lame
L1215[11:20:10] <scj643> Ok
L1216[11:20:18] <Skye|ZZZ> scj643: what
do you define as stable
L1217[11:20:32] <CodeNinja> So far: BOP,
Bibliocraft, Project Red, OpenComputers
L1218[11:20:35] <scj643> Doesn't have any
major server or client impacts and doesn't crash
L1219[11:20:56] <scj643> Also CodeNinja
try to put links to official download pages as well
L1220[11:21:21] <CodeNinja> Ill work on
that next
L1221[11:21:38] <CodeNinja> But I need a
complete modlist first
L1222[11:21:44] <scj643> Also project red
is a subset of mods that we aren't going to have it all
L1223[11:22:17] <scj643> Need to find a
host that everyone gets a good ping to
L1224[11:22:19] <CodeNinja> I'll add a
list of the subsets after Project: Red in the list if you give me
the lisr
L1225[11:22:36] <CodeNinja> I was fine
with the old one
L1226[11:22:38] <scj643> You can view the
current mods in your mods folder
L1227[11:22:45] <CodeNinja> ok, those
ones
L1228[11:22:56] <CodeNinja> not at home
ATM so cannot look
L1229[11:23:02] <Vexatos> why project
red?
L1230[11:23:08] <scj643> Why not
L1231[11:23:13] <Vexatos> It's bad
.-.
L1232[11:23:19] <scj643> Vexatos: you
want to help plan
L1233[11:23:19] <CodeNinja> Because
pretty colored lights
L1234[11:23:24] <scj643> Not that
part
L1235[11:23:31] <scj643> Not getting the
lighting
L1236[11:23:33] <Vexatos> b...but for
that there's RedLogic D:
L1237[11:23:34] <CodeNinja> mnbcx
at5seig'[
L1238[11:23:48] <CodeNinja> oops
L1239[11:23:53] <Vexatos> k
L1240[11:24:12] <CodeNinja> Reminder:
Click somewhere else before attempting keyboard cleaning
L1241[11:24:26] <Magik6k> S3, nice. What
do you think will be limit of frame payload size
L1242[11:24:33] <scj643> Vexatos: does
redlogic have bundled cables
L1243[11:24:37] <CodeNinja> yes
L1244[11:24:39] <CodeNinja> it does
L1245[11:25:15] <CodeNinja> Its in
Revolution instead of Project Red
L1246[11:26:18] <Vexatos> It's Basically
wires, lights and gates
L1247[11:26:32] <Vexatos> i.e. all you'd
ever want out of P:Red
L1248[11:26:34] <CodeNinja> Redlogic
lacks ForgeMultiPart support
L1249[11:26:36] <scj643> And it's very
complex ICs
L1250[11:26:36] <Vexatos> without all
that bloat
L1251[11:26:48] <scj643> Forge multipart
thoug
L1252[11:26:50] <Vexatos> IC
ripoff*
L1253[11:26:56] <Vexatos> immibis'
microblocks is superior anyway
L1254[11:27:18] <Vexatos> also, RL does
have integrated circuits too
L1255[11:27:22] <S3> I am back
L1256[11:27:31] <CodeNinja> I dont know
if its forge multipart.
L1257[11:27:33] <Kodos> Sure, if you
build a huge, ugly mustard-yellow 'cleanroom'
L1258[11:27:37] <Vexatos> in fact, it was
the first to have them, even though not with a fancy (or
ripped-off) GUI
L1259[11:27:44] <scj643> Ok
L1260[11:27:44] <CodeNinja> REdlogic
doesnt have *any* multipart.
L1261[11:27:52] <Vexatos> CodeNinja,
immibis' Microblocks
L1262[11:27:56] <Kodos> Vexatos,
considering you're the lead dev for Computronics now, you hardly
have room to bitch about who rips off what
L1263[11:28:03] <scj643> lol
L1264[11:28:06] <CodeNinja> hey, be
nice
L1265[11:28:06] <Vexatos> what
L1266[11:28:08] <gamax92> redlogic uses
immibru microblocks
L1267[11:28:09] <Vexatos> What did I
steal?
L1268[11:28:22] <CodeNinja> Someone will
be happy to hear that
L1269[11:28:25] <S3> I don't like
redlogic
L1270[11:28:32] <Kodos> I didn't say you
stole anything, but Computronics has at least two features that
were brought up in conversation for other mods before being
added
L1271[11:28:33] <Elizabeth> Yay for train
logistics
L1272[11:28:37] <Vexatos> gamax92, that's
actually quite funny
L1273[11:28:43] <S3> Redlogic doesn't
come with some gates I use I forget what they are though
L1274[11:28:47] <gamax92> why .-.
L1275[11:28:49] <S3> So I just use
project red
L1276[11:28:54] <scj643> Oh so redlogic
is out
L1277[11:28:55] <Vexatos> Kodos, tell
me
L1278[11:29:03] <Elizabeth> And by train
logistics I don't mean in mc
L1279[11:29:07] <scj643> Bluepower is
incomplete
L1280[11:29:09] <S3> It's one of the
cells
L1281[11:29:13] <Kodos> Colorful Lamp
(OpenLight) and Cipher Block (The original idea for
OpenSecurity)
L1282[11:29:16] <Vexatos> it should have
all the cells
L1283[11:29:23] <Vexatos> Kodos, not mine
and... not mine
L1284[11:29:26] <S3> They may have added
them
L1285[11:29:32] <Elizabeth> This place
fucking stinks of weed
L1286[11:29:32] <Vexatos> also not from
opensec but from immibis' peripherals
L1287[11:29:33] <gamax92> i gave up on
bluepower
L1288[11:29:37] <Vexatos> IIRC
L1289[11:29:46] <Vexatos> which never was
an OC addon
L1290[11:29:54] <Vexatos> until Snagar
added CC<->OC compat stuffs
L1291[11:29:57] <S3> Most of my circuits
rely heavily on buffer and null cells so if they have them now
should be fine. I use and cells as well though
L1292[11:30:11] <Vexatos> Pretty sure RL
has all the cells redpower had
L1293[11:30:19] <S3> I just remember in
the past red Logic didn't have what I needed and I got mad
L1294[11:30:26] <gamax92> Vexatos: except
that one time when asie
L1295[11:30:33] <Vexatos> *gets
shot*
L1296[11:30:34] <S3> Probably want
implemented yet
L1297[11:30:37] <CodeNinja> Vexatos:
Computronics specializes in "old-school" computer parts,
right?
L1298[11:30:37] <S3> Wasn't*
L1299[11:30:43] <Vexatos> CodeNinja, does
it?
L1300[11:30:46] <Vexatos> good to
know
L1301[11:30:48] *
Vexatos hides nanomachines
L1302[11:30:49] <CodeNinja> I thought it
did
L1303[11:30:49] <gamax92> computronics
only specializes in tapes
L1304[11:30:53] <Vexatos> ^
L1305[11:30:58] <Kodos> !kick Kodos
reasons
L1306[11:30:58] ***
Kodos was kicked by zsh ((Kodos) reasons))
L1307[11:31:01] <gamax92> k
L1309[11:31:17] <Vexatos> but the tapes
are the best thing about the mod
L1310[11:31:20] <CodeNinja> We need
those
L1311[11:31:24] <gamax92> not those kinds
of tapes
L1312[11:31:26] <Vexatos> we... have
those
L1313[11:31:29] <S3> Today we're talking
about waves in ocean sciences class
L1314[11:31:30] <scj643> No cells
L1315[11:31:31] <Vexatos> Just
smaller
L1316[11:31:32] <Vexatos> :P
L1317[11:31:33] <S3> Which just
started
L1318[11:31:42] <CodeNinja> Big
multiblock networked storage
L1319[11:31:47] <CodeNinja> With cool
sounds
L1320[11:31:55] <Vexatos> CodeNinja,
well, a tape drive can hold one tape and has cool sounds
L1321[11:31:57] <Vexatos> sooo
L1322[11:31:58] <CodeNinja> :D
L1323[11:32:04] <Vexatos> place multiple
drives next to each other
L1324[11:32:08] <Vexatos> and.... have
that?
L1325[11:32:15] <CodeNinja> But can you
store data on it? I thought they were only for sound
L1328[11:32:27] <gamax92> they sound like
BRRRKKKKKRKRKRKKKRKRKKTTKRKTKRKTKTRKKKBKRKKTKTKRKTRK
L1329[11:32:28] <Vexatos> You store
arbitrary data on them
L1330[11:32:36] <Vexatos> Yep
L1331[11:32:36] <S3> On fact you can read
the sound data of of them
L1332[11:32:40] <Vexatos> if it happens
to be DFPWM it will play actual music
L1333[11:32:41] <scj643> S3 redlogic does
t have cells
L1334[11:32:44] <Vexatos> otherwise it
will just be noise
L1335[11:32:48] <Vexatos> but it WILL try
to play it :P
L1336[11:32:48] *
gamax92 needs to see where his libdfpwm.lua is
L1337[11:32:50] <Vexatos> it you tell it
to
L1338[11:32:53] <S3> Scj643 yay!
L1340[11:33:00] <MichiBot> CodeNinja:
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L1341[11:33:03] <scj643> So we're stuck
on project red
L1342[11:33:11] <Vexatos> CodeNinja,
no
L1344[11:33:12] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
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L1345[11:33:16] <gamax92> Vexatos: btw
what happens if you try to play not dfpwm, and like, it's level
position goes below 0 or above 255
L1346[11:33:18] <S3> It was a while ago
and redlogic probably want finished yet
L1347[11:33:23] <S3> Wasnt
L1348[11:33:24] <Vexatos> also, the drive
itself makes no sound like that, CodeNinja
L1349[11:33:32] <Vexatos> for that, use
the Computronics beep card
L1350[11:33:35] <Vexatos> it makes square
waves
L1351[11:33:39] <Vexatos> which is...
close enough?
L1352[11:33:42] <Vexatos> And before
gamax92 fixed it
L1353[11:33:48] <Vexatos> it actually did
make sounds close to that
L1354[11:33:48] <gamax92> beep card is
not as good as immibru speaker ;-;
L1355[11:33:49] <Vexatos> :P
L1356[11:33:55] <CodeNinja> Those are
floppy discs, not tape drives.
L1357[11:34:00] <Vexatos> ah right
L1358[11:34:02] <Vexatos> I just
L1359[11:34:03] <CodeNinja> They sound
different
L1360[11:34:04] <Vexatos> nevermind
L1361[11:34:06] *
Vexatos hides
L1362[11:34:06] <scj643> If someone knows
Java and can get waila working that would allow use to use the
somewhat more stable PR integrated circuits
L1363[11:34:08] <Vexatos> NEVERMIND
SIR
L1364[11:34:19] <Vexatos> gamax92, can we
bring back the pre-fix computer.beep?
L1365[11:34:24] <Vexatos> before it was
square
L1366[11:34:31] <Vexatos> when it did
sound like a malfunctioning floppy drive?
L1367[11:34:31] <CodeNinja> I know a
little java, not enough to make a mod tho...
L1368[11:34:32] <Vexatos> <3
L1369[11:34:35] <gamax92> XD
L1370[11:34:45] <gamax92> yes we
can.
L1371[11:35:02] <CodeNinja> My hard drive
*almost* sounds like that
L1372[11:35:09] <CodeNinja> I think its
just really loud tho
L1373[11:35:13] <S3> Magic6k not sure if
I told you but I plan to make an unmanaged rack mount SAN raid
add-on for server tracks
L1374[11:35:33] <S3> Makes all disks into
one unmanaged one
L1375[11:35:43] <Vexatos> gamax92, hit a
beep card with a brick (like you do with the spoofing card)
L1376[11:35:49] <gamax92> wat?
L1377[11:35:51] <Vexatos> and get a burp
card?
L1378[11:35:54] <Vexatos> .-.
L1379[11:36:11] <scj643> Lol
L1380[11:36:28] <Vexatos> I need to dig
through github to find the old audio sound stuff
L1381[11:36:33] <Vexatos> oh wait
L1382[11:36:33] <scj643> Unless I can
disable the PR module for Waila
L1383[11:36:35] <Vexatos> I can't use
it
L1384[11:36:35] <CodeNinja> wait, you get
to throw bricks at things?
L1385[11:36:39] <Elizabeth> :< the
site I used to use for downloading Yt bids just has a bunch of shit
redirects
L1386[11:36:40] <Vexatos> I am using
Snagar's Audio lib
L1387[11:36:55] <Vexatos> CodeNinja, you
actually just craft a network card with a brick to make it
malfunction
L1388[11:36:58] <Vexatos> (allow
spoofing)
L1389[11:37:08] <S3> Audio lib. Does it
let you make square waves?
L1390[11:37:13] <S3> And since waves
etc
L1391[11:37:14] <Vexatos> Yes
L1392[11:37:17] <Vexatos> no
L1393[11:37:18] <S3> Some*
L1394[11:37:20] <Vexatos> only
square
L1395[11:37:23] <S3> Damn it phone
L1397[11:37:34] <Vexatos> The Beep card
uses it
L1398[11:37:35] <CodeNinja> I can make
models in 3ds Max, if anyone can turn models made for a modern game
engine into MC-usable files
L1399[11:37:50] <S3> Blender ftw
L1400[11:38:06] <CodeNinja> Mine is
fancier, and I get it for free
L1401[11:38:11] <CodeNinja> cause
student
L1402[11:38:34] <CodeNinja> jk, never
used blender
L1403[11:38:45] <S3> Blender is used in
production now
L1404[11:38:51] <scj643> I can get it too
but my laptop sucks ass
L1405[11:39:42] <CodeNinja> here, borrow
my dad's, it will start and load MC, but plays it at 2 FPS, and I
have no idea why
L1406[11:39:49] <scj643> Lol
L1407[11:40:14] <CodeNinja> Modded @ 2
FPS, havent tried vanilla
L1408[11:40:20] <CodeNinja> Minimum
settings
L1409[11:40:22] <scj643> Wow
L1410[11:40:38] <CodeNinja> It has 8GB
ram
L1411[11:40:43] <CodeNinja> Allocated
1
L1412[11:40:48] <CodeNinja> 50 mods
L1414[11:41:24] <scj643> CodeNinja: shit
gpu then
L1415[11:41:34] <S3> You know it's kind
of hard to imagine but your weight fluctuates in unmeasurable
amounts during the day not just because of the food you eat but
also because of the moon
L1416[11:41:37] <CodeNinja> Its AMD
integrated
L1417[11:41:49] <S3> Weird crazy
stuff
L1418[11:41:49] <scj643> That would
explain it
L1419[11:41:55] <CodeNinja> Supposedly
better than Intel integrated
L1420[11:41:55] ***
surferconor425|Away is now known as surferconor425
L1421[11:42:00] <scj643> Unless it's an
apu
L1422[11:42:18] <CodeNinja> Could be -
its a newer chip
L1423[11:42:30] <scj643> Then it's
malware infested
L1424[11:42:31] <CodeNinja> I have an AMD
without any integrated GFX
L1425[11:42:54] <scj643> That's my list
for bad performance
L1426[11:43:01] <CodeNinja> Computer runs
fine, boots faster than my in-most-ways-better gaming PC
L1427[11:43:04] <scj643> The last thing
is something is dying
L1428[11:43:18] <scj643> Or it's just
windows being shit like normal
L1429[11:43:18] <CodeNinja> Or it just
hates Java and MC
L1430[11:43:27] <CodeNinja> I blame
windows 8.1
L1431[11:43:29] <scj643> Wrong version of
Java
L1432[11:43:35] <scj643> Bad
drivers
L1433[11:43:41] <CodeNinja> Java 8
latest
L1434[11:43:47] <scj643> 64bit?
L1435[11:43:51] <CodeNinja> Manufacturer
drivers
L1436[11:44:11] <scj643> Then idk don't
do tech support
L1437[11:44:11] <S3> You should just put
an M8HC11 in your laptop :)
L1438[11:44:24] <CodeNinja> Yes, 64-bit
java, altho the SAME INSTANCE runs fine on 32-bit java
L1439[11:44:30] <CodeNinja> Its
complicated
L1440[11:44:55] <CodeNinja> It probably
didnt help that I was runnung MC off a USB on that laptop
L1441[11:44:55] <S3> Actually an m8hc11
would be fun as an oc arch. What do you think gamax
L1442[11:45:03] <gamax92> I don't know
what that is.
L1443[11:45:16] <S3> It's a 68000
model
L1444[11:45:30] <S3> Motorolla
L1445[11:45:37] <CodeNinja> I think Intel
4004 would be fun as an OC Arch
L1446[11:45:52] <scj643> Z80 anyone
L1447[11:46:24] <scj643> I'll be away for
an hour in 15 minutes
L1448[11:46:29] <S3> And I left the 6
or
L1449[11:46:32] <S3> Out*
L1450[11:46:42] <S3> It's m68hc11
L1451[11:47:04] <S3> Scj643- the z80 was
an okay processor
L1452[11:47:19] <S3> The z180 was much
better just lesser known
L1453[11:47:19] <scj643> S3 did you get a
chance to check the onenote notebook
L1455[11:47:28] <Elizabeth> Fucking
trains
L1456[11:47:30] <S3> Don't have the link
now
L1457[11:48:07] ***
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L1458[11:48:41] <scj643> Going to work on
it when I get home
L1460[11:50:26] <S3> There is also the 32
bit 68000
L1461[11:50:42] <S3> That is properly 32
bit at least
L1463[11:51:12] <scj643> No
L1464[11:51:18] <CodeNinja> OneNote
Notebook
L1465[11:51:19] <scj643> Don't put the
edit link damnit
L1466[11:51:29] <CodeNinja> SORRY
L1467[11:51:34] <scj643> Oh well
L1469[11:51:48] <CodeNinja> THERE
L1470[11:51:49] <scj643> Too late
now
L1471[11:52:15] <S3> It's asking for a
Microsoft login so no
L1472[11:52:22] <scj643> Dang
L1473[11:52:26] <S3> Not making Microsoft
account
L1474[11:52:35] <CodeNinja> Im not logged
in...
L1475[11:52:38] <scj643> Onenote is the
only thing that is good for it
L1477[11:53:22] <scj643> Shouldn't ask
you to log in
L1479[11:53:34] <scj643> Not from that
link at least
L1480[11:53:42] <CodeNinja> IM NOT LOGGED
IN AND I CAN EDIT
L1481[11:53:55] <scj643>
Caps!!!!!!!
L1482[11:54:01] <CodeNinja> link works
for me
L1483[11:54:20] <scj643> Going to be
offline for the next hour
L1484[11:54:29] <S3> Wow I just learned
the difference between an ocean and a sea
L1485[11:54:39] *
Elizabeth waits for apps you download
L1486[11:54:58] <Elizabeth>
s/you/to
L1487[11:54:59] <Kibibyte> * Elizabeth
waits for apps to download
L1489[11:55:22] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
The Bielefeld Conspiracy | length:
2m 21s | Likes:
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Tom
Scott
L1490[11:56:18] <S3> Lol.
L1491[11:56:31] <S3> It loads then
redirects me instantly to log in
L1492[11:56:39] <S3> Every time
L1493[11:56:58] <scj643> Try using a user
agent switcher to go to mobile
L1494[11:57:16] <scj643> It works on
mobile safari
L1495[11:57:30] <S3> I'm on Android
L1496[11:57:42] <S3> I'm in class
lol
L1497[11:57:50] <scj643> That might be
it
L1498[11:57:54] <S3> Still
L1499[11:57:59] <S3> Microsoft is
dumb
L1500[11:58:18] <scj643> Onenote is the
only good thing they did
L1501[11:58:30] <CodeNinja> Word is
ok
L1502[11:58:36] <CodeNinja> google docs
better
L1503[11:58:46] <S3> Google docs Google
docs
L1504[11:58:48] <CodeNinja> Also credit
due for XP
L1506[11:58:52] <MichiBot> CodeNinja:
Reconstructing Science Remix (Futuristic Orchestra) 10 hours
| length:
10h, 1m 59s | Likes:
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5
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10hourclips
L1507[11:58:58] <S3> Shun the Microsoft
caca
L1508[11:59:30] <S3> I refuse to use
Microsoft caca
L1509[11:59:56] <S3> It's a poor service
written by a viralv company
L1510[12:02:09] <Elizabeth> Well the
android onenote app is pos
L1511[12:03:02] <S3> I was using Google
chrome
L1512[12:04:24] <Elizabeth> Okay, when
trying to log into the 1note app with the existing account there it
didn't work, logging in manually with the same account workes
L1513[12:06:27] <Elizabeth> scj643: I
fixed the location of the server in that notebook
L1514[12:08:33] *
vifino flops on Elizabeth and curls up
L1515[12:12:21] *
Elizabeth pets vi
L1516[12:12:27] *
Elizabeth pets vifino
L1517[12:13:42] *
vifino purrs
L1518[12:16:38] <Elizabeth> Elizabeth +
cold = run and hide
L1519[12:22:25] ***
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L1523[12:37:15] <S3> Problem with being a
class with over 300 people
L1524[12:37:22] <S3> Getting the heck out
of there
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L1527[12:40:20] *
vifino picks up Elizabeth and goes to get food and
drinks
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seconds)
L1529[12:41:32] <Caitlyn> \o/ home
again...
L1530[12:41:41] <Caitlyn> Now to work on
implementing stop on the new player
L1531[12:43:00] <Caitlyn> K... stop works
\o/
L1532[12:44:33] <Elizabeth> Wee
L1533[12:44:40] ***
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L1535[12:50:39] <Elizabeth> and
home#
L1536[12:51:01] <Caitlyn> volume is a
PITA, btw... lol
L1537[12:51:02] <CodeNinja> Home is where
the cookies are
L1538[12:51:15] <Elizabeth> CodeNinja,
there is indeed cookies in the fridge
L1539[12:51:27] <Elizabeth> though i have
dinner before those
L1540[12:52:41] <CodeNinja> HOW DID I
KNOW
L1541[12:52:50] <CompanionCube>
CodeNinja, Home is where 127.0.0.1 is.
L1542[12:54:15] <CodeNinja> No, home is
where ::1 is.
L1543[12:56:33] *
gamax92 just noticed the pci vendor for Intel is
0x8086
L1544[12:56:44] <Caitlyn> lol, yep
L1545[12:58:50] <CodeNinja> IPv6 >
IPv4
L1546[12:59:05] <S3> Wheeeeee
L1547[12:59:13] <S3> ::0 ftw
L1548[12:59:33] <S3> your network may be
deadbeefcafe
L1549[12:59:37] <S3> but my network is
over 9000.
L1550[13:00:01] <CodeNinja> I want a 4004
arch for OC
L1551[13:00:12] <S3> why?
L1552[13:00:16] <CodeNinja> because
L1553[13:00:23] <CodeNinja> because
whatever
L1554[13:00:24] <S3> nobody liked
ity
L1555[13:00:54] <S3> it was the first cpu
cpiu
L1556[13:00:56] <S3> cpu*
L1557[13:01:11] <CodeNinja> fine, MP944
then
L1559[13:01:50] <CodeNinja> why?
L1560[13:01:50] <S3> gamax92 has
OCsympn
L1561[13:01:52] <S3> symon*
L1562[13:01:56] <S3> maybe you should
look at that
L1563[13:03:28] <gamax92> Home is where
127.1 is
L1564[13:03:57] <S3> oh interesting
L1565[13:04:07] <gamax92> Vexatos:
halp.
L1566[13:04:07] <S3> a website where zip
codes are stored as integers and not strings
L1567[13:04:12] <S3> so I can't get
delivery from them
L1568[13:04:23] <Vexatos> gamax92,
whatishappening
L1569[13:04:27] <Vexatos> also it's
127.0.0.1
L1570[13:04:35] <gamax92> Vexatos: 127.1
works
L1571[13:04:37] <S3> actually it's the
whole 127/8 iirc
L1572[13:04:39] <CodeNinja> gamax92: why
is it not ::1
L1573[13:04:42] <Vexatos> >_>
L1574[13:04:56] <Vexatos> CodeNinja,
because :: marks labels in Lua
L1575[13:04:58] <gamax92> Vexatos: But
I'm trying to run a transformer on OC's classes and it seems to
completely skip anonfun stuff
L1576[13:05:14] <S3> yeah it looks like
it's 127.0.0.0/8
L1577[13:05:33] <Vexatos> #lua local i =
1 ::fish;; print("hello") i = i + 1 if i < 10 goto
fish end
L1578[13:05:33] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
[string "lua"]:1: '::' expected near ';'
L1579[13:05:42] <CodeNinja>
192.168.1.2
L1580[13:05:42] <Vexatos> #lua local i =
1 ::fish:: print("hello") i = i + 1 if i < 10 goto
fish end
L1581[13:05:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
[string "lua"]:1: 'then' expected near 'goto'
L1582[13:05:46] <Vexatos> #lua local i =
1 ::fish:: print("hello") i = i + 1 if i < 10 then
goto fish end
L1583[13:05:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > hello
| hello | hello | hello | hello | hello | hello | hello | hello |
nil
L1584[13:05:48] <Vexatos> there .-.
L1585[13:05:59] <Vexatos> gamax92, why a
transformer?
L1586[13:06:03] <S3> Vexatos:
L1587[13:06:06] <gamax92> to patch oc
stuff
L1588[13:06:11] <Vexatos> but why
L1589[13:06:14] <gamax92> secret
L1590[13:06:17] <Vexatos> why not just...
make a PR
L1591[13:06:29] <S3> #js
Array(16).join("wat - 1") + " Batman!"
L1592[13:06:29] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
"wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1wat -
1wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1wat - 1 Batman!"
L1593[13:06:34] <S3> oops
L1594[13:06:38] <S3> #js
Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + " Batman!"
L1595[13:06:38] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
"NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN
Batman!"
L1596[13:06:56] <Vexatos> With Selene I
could do that tii+
L1597[13:06:57] <Vexatos> too*
L1598[13:07:05] <CodeNinja> NaN has eaten
you
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L1601[13:07:39] <S3> Vexatos go fix
Sangar's stuff.
L1602[13:07:40] <CodeNinja> that looks
somewhat like a bulldozer
L1603[13:07:40] <gamax92> Vexatos:
because it's not beneficial and only for fun
L1604[13:07:43] <S3> That's your new
job
L1605[13:07:56] <CodeNinja> Who is
Sangar?
L1607[13:08:03] <gamax92> Sangar is
Vexatos
L1608[13:08:09] <CodeNinja> *assumes its
not SirSengir*
L1609[13:08:12] <S3> gamax92: so?
L1610[13:08:13] <gamax92> please blame
all bugs and issues on Vexatos
L1612[13:08:26] <S3> Vexatos needs to fix
Sangar's stuff
L1613[13:08:31] *
Elizabeth blames Vexatos for everything
L1615[13:08:43] <S3> is Sangar really
Vexatos ?
L1616[13:08:47] <gamax92> no...
L1617[13:08:51] <S3> I didn't think
so
L1618[13:08:58] *
CodeNinja blames the Kraken for everything
L1619[13:09:10] <S3> that damn frigging
kraken on smite
L1620[13:09:11] <S3> so OP
L1621[13:09:18] *
gamax92 tries to do a different approach to this ...
L1622[13:09:26] <S3> but that's
okay
L1623[13:09:32] <S3> I play bakasura, and
that's OP too
L1625[13:10:17] *
CodeNinja blames the Deep Space Kraken for everything
L1626[13:11:12] <CodeNinja> Can someone
give me the link for scj643's OneNote server file?
L1627[13:11:19] <gamax92> oh, maybe the
class just hasn't loaded.
L1628[13:11:30] <scj643> I'm back
L1629[13:11:35] <S3> yeah
allyourlinksarebelongtous
L1630[13:11:57] ***
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L1631[13:12:06] <S3> gamax92: That's what
I say when I attend class early
L1632[13:12:06] <CodeNinja> I come with a
cutting torch to save the day
L1633[13:12:11] <S3> "The class
hasn't finished loading yet"
L1634[13:12:21] <CodeNinja> Its a virtual
torch
L1635[13:13:02] <S3> I really need to get
to buying that new motherboard replacement for my laptop
L1636[13:13:55] <gamax92> ahh, that was
it.
L1637[13:13:59] <gamax92> i had to go in
game for it to work.
L1638[13:14:09] <S3> gamax92: working on
OCSymon?
L1639[13:14:12] <gamax92> no
L1642[13:14:24] <MichiBot> Elizabeth:
Adam Savage's Ultimate Duck Army | length:
22m 5s |
Likes:
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434310 | by
Tested
L1643[13:16:08] *
vifino returns with food and drinks for both Elizabeth and
him
L1644[13:16:13] <scj643> Well I'm free to
work on the pack
L1645[13:16:13] <vifino> Tada!
L1646[13:16:17] <Elizabeth> woo
L1647[13:16:22] *
Elizabeth noms
L1648[13:16:50] <vifino> :3
L1650[13:17:24] *
CodeNinja : NOM NOM NOM
L1651[13:17:42] ***
rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L1652[13:18:02] <scj643> Ok time to work
on the pack
L1653[13:18:40] <scj643> S3 did you get
onenote working
L1654[13:18:51] <CodeNinja> Can I make
"Still Alive" with iron note blocks?
L1655[13:19:13] <scj643> No but you can
play an MP3 using open fm
L1656[13:19:23] <scj643> Maybe you
can
L1657[13:19:33] <scj643> Definitely with
the computer beeps
L1658[13:19:42] <scj643> What needs to be
done with my pack
L1659[13:21:07] <CodeNinja> Modlist,
permissions, whitelist, launcher
L1660[13:21:20] <CodeNinja> Im working on
modlist
L1661[13:21:29] <Vexatos> beep card can
do it
L1662[13:21:30] <scj643> Launcher is an
issue
L1663[13:21:32] <Vexatos> for sure
L1664[13:21:38] <CodeNinja> Use
ATLauncher
L1665[13:21:40] <Vexatos> tape drives
can, obviously
L1666[13:21:44] <scj643> Hell no
L1667[13:22:02] <scj643> ATLauncher is a
pain to get on
L1668[13:22:14] <CodeNinja> You'll need
perms for everything, and a website
L1669[13:22:18] <CodeNinja> thats
is
L1670[13:22:20] <CodeNinja> it
L1671[13:22:21] <scj643> Going to go with
a custom launcher that uses SKlauncher
L1672[13:22:24] <CodeNinja> AFAIK
L1673[13:22:29] <CodeNinja> OK, sounds
good to me
L1674[13:22:48] <CodeNinja> as long as
someone good enough with computers to use OC can use it
easily
L1675[13:23:06] <scj643> Only thing is I
need to keep the mod files for regular download because s3 is on
OpenBSD
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L1678[13:25:28] <scj643> Should I have CC
in the pack
L1679[13:26:30] <scj643> Also we need a
name and logos
L1680[13:26:46] <Noob> Well since I found
out that OC exists I always remove CC from packs, though I suppose
it's not my business whether you should or not :D
L1681[13:27:06] <S3> I use both.
L1682[13:27:11] <CodeNinja> I'll work on
that too, I have photoshop on my school laptop
L1683[13:27:22] <scj643> Ok
L1684[13:27:31] <scj643> I'll keep CC and
add js
L1685[13:27:34] <scj643> One
L1686[13:27:49] <scj643> Ons we can rip
their Apis too
L1687[13:28:53] <S3> I just
realized
L1688[13:29:29] <S3> I'm not doing it
this way, but I could have named the disks in /dev for OC hard
drives ocd
L1689[13:29:33] <S3> oc disk
L1690[13:30:47] <infina> S3:
really?
L1691[13:32:31] <scj643> Should I update
to the latest dev version of forge essentials
L1692[13:32:59] <S3> infina: :P
L1693[13:33:01] <scj643> Never mind
L1694[13:33:45] <scj643> Ok getting their
stable builds
L1695[13:35:03] <scj643> Has openfm
released a new build
L1696[13:38:56] <Caitlyn> Build 8 is the
latest
L1697[13:39:05] <Caitlyn> I'm still
working on the new player
L1698[13:40:13] <scj643> Ok
L1699[13:40:51] <Caitlyn> some streams
are throwing index out of range exceptions
L1700[13:41:01] <Caitlyn> and I can't
release like that
L1701[13:41:20] <scj643> Ok
L1702[13:41:27] <scj643> Is Vexatos
here
L1703[13:41:40] <Vexatos> no
L1704[13:41:51] <Forecaster> lies
L1705[13:42:04] <scj643> What's new in
computronics
L1706[13:42:16] <Vexatos> nanomachines,
son
L1707[13:42:22] <Vexatos> I mean,
nothing
L1708[13:42:24] <Vexatos> some bug
fixes
L1709[13:42:31] <Vexatos> the Colorful
Upgrade was added in 1.5.7
L1710[13:42:41] <scj643> 1.5.8
L1711[13:43:03] <Vexatos> bug fixes
L1712[13:43:08] <S3> Vexatos is always
trying to hide the nanobots
L1713[13:43:13] <Vexatos> also forestry 4
support
L1714[13:43:14] <S3> his ipv6
nanobots
L1715[13:43:15] <Vexatos> never
L1716[13:43:19] <S3> what do nanobots
even do?
L1717[13:43:28]
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L1718[13:44:29] <Vexatos> give you
buffs
L1719[13:44:48] <scj643> S3 going to have
to make special builds for you
L1720[13:45:10] <S3> why?
L1721[13:45:10]
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192 seconds)
L1722[13:45:23] <scj643> SKLauncher
doesn't work for you
L1723[13:45:35] <S3> dude I just need the
contents of the minecraft mods and config dir
L1724[13:45:39] <S3> thats how I did it
the other day
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L1726[13:46:00] <scj643> How would I go
about syncing a folder with my server
L1727[13:46:06] <S3> if I can tear that
out of an sklauncher pack
L1728[13:46:11] <S3> then I should be
fine
L1729[13:46:21] <scj643> You can't since
it uses a hashed format
L1730[13:46:25] <MajGenRelativity>
hello
L1731[13:46:26] <S3> scj643: rsync. if
you're using lftp? upload: mirror -R
L1732[13:46:38] <scj643> I'm using
sftp
L1733[13:46:40] <MajGenRelativity> is
there any way for a robot to know how much energy it stores?
L1734[13:46:49] <S3> use lftp if you can.
it has sftp support
L1736[13:46:56] <S3> if you're using
vanilla sftp
L1737[13:47:15] <S3> otherwise cp -R
might work
L1738[13:47:26] <Kodos|Phone> ~w
computer.energy
L1740[13:47:34] <S3> er not cp -R
but
L1741[13:47:57] <MajGenRelativity> much
thanks Kodos|Phone
L1742[13:48:09] <Kodos|Phone> TIL my
liver enzymes are fucky
L1743[13:48:11] <scj643> I'm using the
sftp from openssh
L1745[13:48:32] <Kodos|Phone> Fucked
rather
L1746[13:48:34] <S3> that client is
awful
L1747[13:48:37] <Kodos|Phone> Stupid
phone
L1748[13:48:46] <scj643> No that's my
server
L1749[13:49:01] <S3> hehe.
L1750[13:49:06] <S3> I use lftp to do my
sftp transfers
L1751[13:49:20] <S3> there's a trick to
do if you use key pairs
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L1753[13:49:40] <scj643> I use passwords
because it's shared
L1754[13:49:49] <S3> .....
L1755[13:49:50] <S3> WHAT
L1756[13:49:55] <S3> whyyyy
L1757[13:50:00] <scj643> Providing
storage space for my other gaming community
L1758[13:50:09] <S3> still?
L1759[13:50:23] <scj643> They need
console access
L1760[13:50:30] <S3> by using password
auth, your ssh server is suseptible to dictionary attacks
L1761[13:50:42] <S3> I force everyone to
use key pair auth on my servers
L1762[13:50:46] <S3> if they dont want
to, too bad
L1763[13:51:14] <Kodos|Phone> Hng
L1764[13:51:30] <S3> infina: you tell
him
L1766[13:51:58]
zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos|Phone
L1767[13:52:39] <Kodos|Phone> I will be
glad to get back home
L1768[13:52:44] <S3> Kodos|Phone:
whee
L1769[13:53:06] <scj643> Testing my pack
right now
L1770[13:53:17] <S3> whats in it?
L1771[13:53:32] <scj643> Also SKLauncher
makes it easy for me to check for updates
L1772[13:53:40] <scj643> It has all the
same mods as before
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L1774[13:53:43] <Kodos|Phone> Can someone
please tell me something positive before I lose my shit in the dr
office
L1775[13:53:55] <S3> Kodos|Phone: you'll
be fine
L1776[13:53:57] <Elizabeth> Kodos|Phone,
3
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L1778[13:54:09] <scj643> I removed
optifine
L1779[13:54:17] <S3> scj643: yeah don't
force people to use optifine
L1780[13:54:21] <S3> some people
can't
L1781[13:54:33] <Kodos|Phone> Is it not
shit yet
L1782[13:54:41] <scj643> I can make it an
optional mod on install
L1783[13:55:53] <S3> better
L1784[13:56:01] <S3> some people prefer
fastcraft also
L1785[13:56:05] <S3> which I don't
but
L1786[13:56:29] <S3> it can have issues
with other mods more often than not
L1787[13:56:45] <scj643> Can't have
fastcraft
L1788[13:56:47] <S3> scj643: so do we got
a new map?
L1789[13:56:51] <scj643> Yes we
will
L1791[13:56:57] <Kodos|Phone> I want to
make a mod that turns any placed cc blocks into a primed tnt
entity
L1792[13:56:58] <scj643> You can make it
if you want
L1793[13:57:02] <S3> do we have
BOP?
L1794[13:57:04] <scj643> Lol
L1795[13:57:11] <scj643> Oh forgot to
grab that
L1796[13:57:17] <S3> (you also have to
enable BOP in the settings file)
L1797[13:57:28] <Kodos|Phone> If modid ==
cc then boom ()
L1798[13:57:31] <S3> you have to change
the world type to BIOMESOP
L1799[13:57:50] <S3> I usually also
increase the biome sizes by one or so but thats me being
weird.
L1800[13:58:01] <scj643> Ok
L1801[13:58:02] <S3> to like, halfway
between normal and large biomes
L1802[13:58:10] <Vexatos>
<scj643>
Can't have fastcraft
L1803[13:58:11] <CodeNinja> BOP does give
you that big annoying warning on first startup to make sure you
know how to enable it
L1804[13:58:12] <Vexatos> why not
L1805[13:58:28] <scj643> Fastcraft and
forge essentials doesn't mix
L1806[13:58:31] <S3> CodeNinja: yeah I
noticed they've started doing that
L1807[13:58:37] <S3> I dunno why they
bother
L1808[13:58:55] <CodeNinja> Poor
documentation?
L1809[13:58:59] <scj643> S3 couldn't you
generate the world in SP and have it work that way
L1810[13:59:00] <S3> yeah probably
L1811[13:59:07] <CodeNinja> Only way to
get people to possibly read it?
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L1813[13:59:11] <S3> scj643:
could..
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L1815[13:59:26] <CodeNinja> Modded CMP
servers are hard to find
L1816[13:59:31] <S3> by the way who is
interested in the curiosity of making a new mod to replace the
minecraft world storage format
L1817[13:59:58] <CodeNinja> Me, I'd like
to learn about how minecraft stores its worlds
L1818[13:59:58] <S3> I was thinking of
making a mod to replace the anvil format or whatever (its easy to
do) with two octrees, one for the world chunks and one for the
lighting on chunks.
L1819[14:00:06] <S3> it might speed up
the worlds a LOT
L1820[14:00:15] <S3> and make worlds that
are 50 GB as small as a couple megabytes
L1821[14:00:26] <scj643> Will it break
mods
L1822[14:00:30] <S3> shouldn't
L1823[14:00:33] <S3> it's just save file
format
L1824[14:00:38] <CodeNinja> I'd like to
rewrite the entire MC game engine to not use Java
L1825[14:00:44] <S3> any mod that breaks
for that should not be modding
L1826[14:00:54] <S3> because it is
supposed to be like, behind the scenes
L1827[14:01:10] <S3> octrees might really
give us performance benefits
L1828[14:01:17] <S3> like
ridiculous
L1829[14:01:18] <CodeNinja> whats an
octree
L1830[14:01:35] <S3> its when you take a
world and you split it into 8 segments
L1831[14:01:49] <CodeNinja> Forget world
load times, I want *launch* time improvements
L1832[14:02:08] <S3> an optimized octree
format is smart enough that if the entire world is dirt, and no
air, bedrock, etc, then the entire world would only take one block
of space.
L1833[14:02:11] <S3> isn't that
neat?
L1835[14:02:29] <CodeNinja> Yes, isnt
that how photo compression works?
L1836[14:02:32] <scj643> It is
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L1838[14:02:49] <CodeNinja> it compresses
same or similar color areas into one pixel
L1839[14:02:53] <S3> in 2D graphics, they
often use quadtrees
L1840[14:02:56] <CodeNinja> or something
like that
L1841[14:03:03] <S3> but octrees are
useful for 3D
L1842[14:03:03] <CodeNinja>
Terraria
L1843[14:03:30] <S3> I was thinking of
doing it by regions or something, if not, then chunks.
L1844[14:03:31] <CodeNinja> Does it use
quadtrees
L1845[14:03:37] <S3> probably will have
to do an octree per chunk
L1846[14:03:40] <S3> which is still very
small
L1847[14:03:45] <CodeNinja> a region is a
dimension, right?
L1848[14:03:57] <S3> at the most worse
case scenario, an octree will be as big as the modern now used
minecraft format.
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L1850[14:04:15] <CodeNinja> Octrees would
help SO MUCH with chromaticcraft
L1851[14:04:27] <S3> a region is like, I
forget how big.. isn't it like 32x32 chunks or something? 9x9?
somewhere..
L1852[14:04:41] <CodeNinja> It requires
insane amounts of exploration, so saaves get huge
L1853[14:04:43] <scj643> 16x16
L1854[14:04:47] <S3> either way a region
is a collection of chunks
L1855[14:04:53] <scj643> Oh wait that's a
chunk
L1856[14:04:55] <CodeNinja> A chunk is
16*16
L1857[14:04:58] <S3> has anyone ever play
sauerbraten?
L1858[14:05:01] <S3> cube 2
L1859[14:05:14] <S3> sauerbraten stores
its world in an octree
L1860[14:05:18] <S3> and you can edit the
world from in the game
L1861[14:05:24] <S3> you can make your
brush size the size of the entire world
L1862[14:05:29] <CodeNinja> lol
L1863[14:05:32] <scj643> Nice
L1864[14:05:34] <S3> and if you want to
delete 1/4 of the entire world on a pentium 4
L1865[14:05:34] <CodeNinja> DIE
WORLD
L1866[14:05:36] <scj643> Got bop
L1867[14:05:46] <S3> you just make the
brush size that size and delete and BAM, its instant
L1868[14:05:50] <S3> because it just
drops the octree node.
L1869[14:05:56] <CodeNinja> I wish
Minecraft wouldnt save untouched chunks
L1870[14:06:00] <scj643> Might break
world edit
L1871[14:06:01] <S3> no special data
packing or recursive bullcrap
L1872[14:06:10] <CodeNinja> just regen
then every time
L1873[14:06:15] <S3> scj643: it will
probably not break world edit, but it will most definately break
mcedit
L1874[14:06:21] <scj643> Regen takes
cpu
L1875[14:06:50] <S3> the ligting octrees
also shouldn't be that complex either.
L1876[14:06:59] <CodeNinja> oh yeah, and
on packs with ATG or stuff like that...welp
L1877[14:07:02] <S3> every chunk or
region will have to have two octrees
L1878[14:07:28] <S3> this way two blocks
that are the same wont complicate the octree
L1879[14:07:35] <S3> with different light
levels
L1880[14:07:42] <scj643> Would break
invisible lights
L1881[14:07:48] <S3> shouldn't
L1882[14:07:50] <CodeNinja> So two
octrees per section, one storing blocks and entities, one storing
lighing on every block?
L1883[14:07:52] <scj643> That needs to
store data in blocks
L1884[14:07:55] <S3> it should be
completely transparent
L1885[14:08:04] <CodeNinja>
*lighting
L1886[14:08:13] <S3> it shoudn't make a
difference
L1887[14:08:14] <scj643> Yay got the
optional mods working
L1888[14:08:22] <S3> all the mod sees is
the lightlevels and the block data
L1889[14:08:34] <S3> it hands it off to
tyhe backend that does the file format
L1890[14:09:15] <CodeNinja> This wouldnt
break worldgen mods, custom renders, or shaders mods?
L1891[14:09:33] <S3> not according to
folks in minecraftforge*
L1892[14:09:48] <S3> they said that no
mod whatsoever should be touching the region files at ALL
L1893[14:10:02] <S3> if they do, then it
is the full authors responsibility to STOP
L1894[14:10:14] <scj643> Ok
L1895[14:10:16] <S3> and think about what
they are doing.. sit in the corner, whatever.
L1896[14:10:43] <S3> in reality the
worldgen stuff should be telling anvil or whatever what to
save
L1897[14:10:45] <S3> and load
L1898[14:10:48] <scj643> Oh yeah anyone
that uses Linux I recommend not launching the launcher from your
file manager
L1899[14:10:56] <S3> why not?
L1900[14:11:08] <S3> what are you using
as a file manager
L1901[14:11:10] <scj643> It will dump the
launcher Into your home folder
L1902[14:11:18] <scj643> I use a nautilus
clone
L1903[14:11:25] <S3> thunar?
L1904[14:11:25] <scj643> Caja since I'm
on mate
L1905[14:11:26] <CodeNinja> Can someone
get me a Windows zip of the mods, so I can be helpful?
L1906[14:11:28] <S3> I see
L1907[14:11:41] <scj643> CodeNinja: your
fine with the launcher
L1908[14:11:58] <CodeNinja> UAC means no
programs can be run or installed on this PC
L1909[14:12:05] <scj643> It will put
everything in the folder you place it
L1910[14:12:10] <scj643> It's a jar
L1911[14:12:19] <S3> CodeNinja: either
way octrees are simple to program. I think it would at least be a
fun project to attempt. minecraft forge irc folks told me I should
be able to just write the API, then reflect the anvil class at
preinit
L1912[14:12:23] <S3> or something
L1913[14:12:28] <S3> itl be like nothing
happened
L1914[14:12:42] <S3> the question is how
to store the octree in a file
L1915[14:13:05] <CodeNinja> S3: you do
that, then when Minecraft stops selling ill buy it from microsoft
and we can rewrite the game together
L1916[14:13:07] <S3> might be good to
make a block based filesystem for allocating this stuff.
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L1920[14:13:39] <CodeNinja> no seriously,
minecraft kinda needs a good look at its engine
L1922[14:13:52] <S3> see the picture to
the right.
L1923[14:14:06] <CodeNinja> I suspected
as much
L1924[14:14:10] <S3> in reality we just
have a fixed block size filesystem
L1925[14:14:12] <CodeNinja> I know what a
tree is
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L1927[14:14:13] <S3> of directories
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L1929[14:14:34] <MajGenRelativity>
oh
L1930[14:14:37] <S3> so it shouldn't be
too hard. now, storing the actual data.. I need to figure a way to
reference that safely.
L1931[14:14:38] <MajGenRelativity> my
robot is a boss
L1932[14:14:52] <MajGenRelativity> now,
it only needs to place 80 million blocks of obsidian
L1933[14:15:04] <CodeNinja> Does anyone
remeber when the size difference between a .txt and a .doc
mattered?
L1934[14:15:42] <CodeNinja> where did you
obtain 80 megabuckets of lava
L1935[14:15:52] <MajGenRelativity> lava
fabricator
L1936[14:16:00] <scj643> We have those on
my pack
L1937[14:16:02] <MajGenRelativity> +like
a million RF
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L1939[14:16:48] <MajGenRelativity> the
program is a work in progress, but it will finally let me build my
fort
L1940[14:16:50] <scj643> Rebuilding my
launcher
L1941[14:16:53] <CodeNinja> Ill make a
pack spotlight, and set it to a remix of "Reconstructing
Science"
L1942[14:17:14] <scj643> Nice
L1943[14:17:28] <CodeNinja> Where can I
get a .jar launcher and download so I can compile a modlist?
L1944[14:18:18] <scj643> Still working on
it
L1945[14:18:35] <scj643> Building it
now
L1946[14:19:32] <scj643> 2 MB up
L1947[14:19:38] <scj643> I'm happy
L1948[14:21:09] <MajGenRelativity> time
to make a regenerating pickaxe so my robot can dig up all the stuff
my ender quarry missed
L1950[14:23:14] <scj643> S3 how do I sync
with lfto
L1951[14:23:18] <scj643> *lftp
L1952[14:23:34] <CodeNinja> oh yeah
L1953[14:23:39] <CodeNinja> in yo face
UAC
L1954[14:24:33] <MajGenRelativity> Moss
3, Reinforced 6
L1955[14:24:36] <MajGenRelativity> That
should do
L1956[14:24:38] <CodeNinja> 1/2
done
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L1958[14:25:18] <CodeNinja> reinforced
> diamonds and emeralds for duablility
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L1961[14:26:55] <scj643> 21 is ssh
right
L1962[14:27:03] <Elizabeth> 22
L1963[14:27:05] <Elizabeth> 21 is
ftp
L1964[14:27:10] <Elizabeth> 23 is
telnet
L1965[14:27:18] <scj643> Ok
L1966[14:27:38] <CodeNinja> cmon PC
L1967[14:27:41] <CodeNinja> you can do
it
L1968[14:29:12] <CodeNinja> Now, where
can I find the mod list
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L1970[14:33:25] <scj643> S3 csync?
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L1972[14:33:55] <CodeNinja> Im getting an
AMAZING 1 FPS!!!
L1973[14:34:32] <scj643> Did it give you
an option to get optifine?
L1974[14:34:50] <Elizabeth> ~oc
modem
L1976[14:35:36] <Elizabeth> ~oc
microcontrollers
L1978[14:36:01] <CodeNinja> yes
L1979[14:36:05] <CodeNinja> i dindt
L1980[14:36:08] <CodeNinja> I will
now
L1981[14:39:01] <Elizabeth> Sangar, you
about?
L1982[14:39:09] <scj643> Ok I'm using
rsync
L1983[14:39:17] <CodeNinja> Craptop vs.
Optifine
L1984[14:39:29] <scj643> It will be at
scj643.theender.net/mcmods
L1985[14:39:48] <CodeNinja> Server back
up?
L1986[14:39:52] <scj643> No
L1987[14:40:00] <scj643> Still need to
set that part up
L1988[14:40:59] <CodeNinja> this launcher
is like "screw you, ill fill up this whole folder with ****
with no warning whatsoever
L1989[14:41:22] <Kodos|Phone> Okay
heading home.
L1990[14:41:31] <scj643> Forgot to tell
you that
L1992[14:41:41] <scj643> You have to put
in its own folder
L1993[14:42:17] <MajGenRelativity> my
robot is fort building likea boss!
L1994[14:42:20] <Elizabeth> anyone know
how i send network messages on a specific side in
microcontrollers?
L1995[14:42:37] <scj643> S3 you could
parse the json file
L1996[14:42:45] <scj643> OC.json
L1997[14:43:22] <CodeNinja> wow
L1998[14:43:29] <CodeNinja> this laptop
is hot
L1999[14:43:37] <scj643> Mine is all the
time
L2000[14:43:44] <gamax92> Don't be
attracted to your laptop
L2001[14:43:59] <MajGenRelativity> I'm
attracted to my laptop
L2002[14:44:07] <MajGenRelativity> I
don't do anything intense with it, so it's fine
L2003[14:44:12] <CodeNinja> Temp: OVER
9000
L2004[14:44:31] <CodeNinja> divided by
100
L2005[14:44:47] <MajGenRelativity> that's
pretty hot
L2006[14:44:50] <scj643> Wow mine never
hits 70
L2007[14:44:58] <scj643> Or was it 80
c
L2008[14:45:04] <CodeNinja> Its
definitely that hot on the outside
L2009[14:45:17] <CodeNinja> In farenheit
because Im american
L2010[14:45:27] <gamax92> You're
murican
L2011[14:45:31] <CodeNinja> yup
L2012[14:45:32] <scj643> Celsius is
hotter
L2013[14:45:49] <scj643> S3 what world
type
L2014[14:45:52] <CodeNinja> Kelvin is
hotter
L2015[14:45:58] <CodeNinja> Pick
BOP
L2016[14:46:10] <CodeNinja> Biomes O'
Plenty
L2017[14:46:12] <Noob> Celcius/Kelvin are
also more right :P
L2018[14:46:48] <scj643> What do I need
to do to make it generate as BOP
L2019[14:47:20] <CodeNinja> pick the BoP
worlld type
L2020[14:47:36] <scj643> no on the
server
L2021[14:47:44] <CodeNinja> I will be
losing internet soon, but ill compile a modlist offline
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L2023[14:48:36] <MajGenRelativity> if it
was 90 Kelvins, your hand would be a chunk of ice now
L2024[14:48:56] <MajGenRelativity> that's
-180 degrees Celsius
L2025[14:49:06] <Noob> I wish my CPU in
laptop was 90K
L2026[14:49:23] <scj643> Server is
starting
L2027[14:49:31] *
gamax92 giggles at MajGenRelativity's approximation
L2028[14:49:31] <MajGenRelativity> I'm
building my friend a desktop
L2029[14:49:36] <Noob> At least I
could've overclock it and run fullpower so it would probably heated
up to 20C or something
L2030[14:49:44] <gamax92> diff between K
and C is 273.15
L2031[14:49:45] <MajGenRelativity> I
apologize gamax92
L2032[14:49:46] <gamax92> not 270
L2033[14:49:54] <MajGenRelativity>
-183.15
L2034[14:50:09] <MajGenRelativity> I was
making a joke
L2035[14:50:28] <Noob> Speaking of
preciseness that's another reason why Farenheits are really, really
bad
L2036[14:50:47] <MajGenRelativity> the
entire U.S. measurement system is horrible
L2037[14:50:55] <MajGenRelativity> SI is
the way to go
L2038[14:51:01] <scj643> It is bull
shit
L2039[14:51:27] <Noob> SI is the *only*
way to go. I mean seriously, find a scientist (even an american)
who doesnt use SI
L2040[14:51:35] <MajGenRelativity> if
only President Carter went through with his plan
L2041[14:52:25] <Noob> Every imperial
unit is a bullshit. Take a mile for example. Did you know that
miles in UK and US *might* be, actually, different?
L2042[14:52:50] <scj643> Might add
bibliocraft bop edition latter
L2043[14:52:51] <MajGenRelativity>
what
L2044[14:52:56] <MajGenRelativity> that's
just dumb
L2046[14:54:19] <Izaya> Why does the US
continue to use imperial units anyway?
L2047[14:54:32] <MajGenRelativity>
because
L2048[14:54:33] <Izaya> Have they not
lost their sanity already? Or did they never have it?
L2049[14:54:39] <MajGenRelativity> the US
likes to do things differently
L2050[14:54:45] <MajGenRelativity> it's
Apple in country form
L2051[14:54:50] <Izaya> tl;dr US is
hipster
L2052[14:55:10] <Izaya> Apple doesn't
even do anything interesting any more
L2053[14:55:12] <Vexatos> Noob, SI?
L2054[14:55:14] <MajGenRelativity> and I
live in the US, so I'm free to be annoyed with it
L2055[14:55:20] <MajGenRelativity> Izaya,
my point exactly
L2056[14:55:20] <Noob> International mile
is 1.609344, but US mile is 1.60934721869. Not to mention that
there are Italian miles, various flavors of English miles, and
other insanity
L2057[14:55:26] <Vexatos> One of my Chem
lecturers gives tasks in ft³
L2058[14:55:31] <Izaya> sure they have
high-res screens and whatever that external PCIe things is
L2059[14:55:32] <Vexatos> And I live in
Germany.
L2060[14:55:54] <MajGenRelativity> he
needs to learn to science properly
L2061[14:55:56] <Noob> Vexatos: SI =
International System of Units
L2062[14:56:00] <Vexatos> I mean, just...
why
L2063[14:56:07] <Vexatos> WHY WOULD ONE
USE ft³
L2064[14:56:08] <Vexatos> WHY
L2065[14:56:19] <Noob> Vexatos: Or in
other words, Système International d'Unités (SI)
L2066[14:56:20] <Vexatos> And he didn't
even tell me which kind of ft
L2067[14:56:21] <Vexatos> .-.
L2068[14:56:24] <Vexatos> Noob, I
know
L2069[14:56:28] <Vexatos> I am not
stupid
L2070[14:56:35] <MajGenRelativity>
lol
L2071[14:56:48] <Vexatos> How did I imply
I wouldn't know what SI meant
L2072[14:56:48] <Vexatos> <_>
L2073[14:56:54] <MajGenRelativity> I
don't want to run more than 1 world anchor for my industry, so a
3x3 chunk area has become the tower of industry
L2074[14:57:02] <MajGenRelativity>
everything is stacked on top of each other
L2075[14:57:14] <Vexatos> you can make
world anchors cover up to a 25x1 area
L2076[14:57:16] <Vexatos> of chunks
L2077[14:57:56] <Noob> US also has own
format of engineering blueprints and own voltage/frequency. In
short words, a terrible place for someone used to sanity...
L2078[14:58:12] <Vexatos> but he didn't
even tell me whether it was 'murican feet
L2079[14:58:12] <Noob> At least they
drive on the right side of the road
L2080[14:58:22] <Izaya> nop
L2081[14:58:25] <Vexatos> there's half a
dozen types of ft
L2082[14:58:26] <Vexatos> .-.
L2083[14:58:43] <MajGenRelativity>
Vexatos, I am aware
L2084[14:58:48] <MajGenRelativity> I'm
just really cheap
L2085[14:58:50] <Noob> Thats how I like
to troll people using imperial units
L2086[14:59:02] <Noob> "Miles/feet?
Oh which ones? The US, UK or roman?"
L2087[14:59:04] <MajGenRelativity> I pour
all my ender pearls into ludicrite for more turbines
L2088[14:59:13] <MajGenRelativity>
ROMANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
L2089[14:59:14] <MajGenRelativity> OH
MAN!
L2090[14:59:34] <Vexatos> But when your
teacher is making you calculate pressure in atm using ft³ and ft²
and lb ,-,
L2091[14:59:50] <Vexatos> IN
GERMANY
L2092[15:00:02] <MajGenRelativity> I told
you Vexatos
L2093[15:00:07] <MajGenRelativity> he
needs to learn how to science
L2094[15:01:04] <scj643> Well my server
is up
L2095[15:01:14] <MajGenRelativity> my
server is lagging hardcore
L2096[15:01:48] <Vexatos> he just does it
for trolling
L2097[15:01:50] <Vexatos> pretty
sure
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L2099[15:04:44] <CodeNinja> Portal music
is the best
L2100[15:07:10] <MajGenRelativity> On my
server, I am so rich
L2101[15:07:17] <MajGenRelativity> I have
to store tons of stuff in DSU's
L2102[15:08:54] <Izaya> right, got my
luakit configured
L2103[15:09:11] <Izaya> and it's getting
close to time to go.
L2104[15:14:41] <MajGenRelativity> this
makes no sense
L2105[15:14:45] <gamax92> Vexatos:
:3
L2106[15:14:51] <MajGenRelativity> when i
teleport to my robot, my server goes nuts
L2107[15:15:56] <MajGenRelativity> and
when i tp away, it instantly goes back to normal?!
L2109[15:17:10] <gamax92> coremod that
patches oc to have the old beep behaviour
L2110[15:18:46] <MajGenRelativity>
warning to all
L2111[15:18:56] <MajGenRelativity> don't
install two chunkloader upgrades at a time on your robot
L2112[15:19:11] <MajGenRelativity> i
think that is where i went wrong
L2113[15:19:26] <Vexatos> gamax92, I was
rather thinking a new Beep Card in Computronics >_>
L2114[15:19:33] <Vexatos> You get by
smashing a brick onto the thinger
L2115[15:19:39] <Vexatos> the normal beep
card
L2116[15:19:50] <Vexatos> but hey,
thanks... I guess?
L2117[15:19:53] <MajGenRelativity> wait,
that wasn't what i did wrong
L2118[15:19:53] <gamax92> you use
Audio.beep
L2119[15:20:03] <Vexatos> Yes I do
L2120[15:20:12] <Vexatos> I need an
Audio.oldBeep P:
L2121[15:20:13] <gamax92> what am I
supposed to do, clone all of Audio just so that I can replace it's
generator?
L2122[15:20:22] <CodeNinja> yes
L2123[15:20:27] <CodeNinja> we must have
it
L2124[15:20:28] <gamax92> you do that,
that's much easier than writing a coremod ._.
L2125[15:20:57] <CodeNinja> If I knew
more than "Hello World!" in java I would
L2126[15:20:59] <Vexatos> >_>
L2127[15:21:09] <Vexatos>
printf("Hello World!");
L2128[15:21:17] <Vexatos> <_>
L2129[15:21:23] <MajGenRelativity> I know
more than printf("Hello World")
L2130[15:21:34] <Vexatos> HAI; CAN HAS
STDIO?; VISIBLE "Hello World!"; KTHXBYE;
L2131[15:21:40] <gamax92>
System.out.print("Hello" + " World");
System.out.println("!");
L2132[15:21:42] <MajGenRelativity> not
much more, but yay
L2133[15:21:53] <Vexatos> LOLCODE best
language
L2134[15:22:34] <MajGenRelativity> my
robot is a pro submariner
L2135[15:22:41] <MajGenRelativity> it
goes through lava and water like a boss
L2136[15:22:57] <gamax92> though writing
coremods is much easier with my method printer
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L2139[15:23:11] <gamax92> I can just make
the change in the source, then make the coremod to do the
same.
L2140[15:23:21] <Vexatos> gamax' coremod
generator v9000
L2141[15:23:46] <gamax92> not entirely,
it hates labels
L2142[15:23:49] <Vexatos> meanwhile, I am
forced to make Computronics spawn a new Java process and
communicate with it over sockets for mary to work
L2143[15:24:02] <gamax92> ... why
L2144[15:24:13] <Vexatos> Because as soon
as FML decides to load mary
L2145[15:24:19] <Vexatos> (which it
doesn't, have to load it myself)
L2146[15:24:33] <Vexatos> it crashes
because Minecraft has an outdated and incompletely shipped version
of ICU
L2147[15:24:42] <Vexatos> and, well, mary
uses ICU as well
L2148[15:24:43] <Vexatos> <->
L2149[15:24:56] <CodeNinja> PC transfer
imminent, can I have that launcher download
L2150[15:25:02] <MajGenRelativity> I have
12k buckets of liquid XP!
L2151[15:25:19] <CodeNinja> I just posted
most mo the modlist
L2152[15:25:25]
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L2153[15:26:10] <gamax92> Vexatos: so
make a coremod to patch mary to use ICU renamed.
L2154[15:26:16] <Noob> Vexatos: new beep
card? Is that some kind of MIDI card I've suggested earlier?
:O
L2155[15:26:25] <gamax92> or make a
coremod to patch forge's version
L2156[15:26:29] <MajGenRelativity> I just
realized a flaw in my programming
L2157[15:26:30] <MajGenRelativity>
:(
L2158[15:26:31] <gamax92> make a
coremod
L2159[15:26:32] <gamax92> coremod
L2160[15:26:33] <gamax92> core
L2161[15:26:40] <Vexatos> I actually
tried
L2162[15:26:49] <Vexatos> but ICU gets
classloadified even before coremods are run
L2163[15:26:50] <Vexatos> I checked
L2164[15:27:07] <Vexatos> I can not
modify it before it gets loaded because it gets loaded before
L2165[15:27:15] <gamax92> hmm ...
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L2167[15:27:48] <MajGenRelativity>
Vexatos rage quat?
L2168[15:27:51] <MajGenRelativity> and
yes, quat
L2169[15:28:26] <MajGenRelativity> time
to work on my house in the asteroid belt
L2170[15:28:31] <gamax92> btw i have no
idea what icu is :P
L2171[15:28:39] <MajGenRelativity> nor do
i
L2172[15:28:45] <gamax92> intensive care
unit
L2173[15:29:03] <gamax92> intelligent
computer university
L2174[15:29:03] <Forecaster> intense core
utilities
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L2178[15:30:29] <MajGenRelativity>
Interactive cellular uppercuts
L2179[15:31:14] <Forecaster> intricate
cow unearthers
L2180[15:31:52] <gamax92> International
Components for Unicode
L2181[15:35:46] <MajGenRelativity> anyone
want to beam me over some thermal padding?
L2182[15:35:55] <MajGenRelativity> having
slowness 3 while building is annoying
L2183[15:36:03] <gamax92> want to beam me
over some ram?
L2184[15:36:06] <Noob> According to the
CIA Factbook, makes the US one of only three countries, alongside
Myanmar (Burma) and Liberia, that have not adopted the metric
system as their official system of weights and measures.
L2185[15:37:05] <Forecaster> directly, if
I recall correctly the imperial systems are calibrated based on
metric standards :P
L2186[15:37:31] <Forecaster> at least for
weight I think
L2187[15:37:49] <MajGenRelativity> that's
the dumbest thing I ahve heard
L2188[15:37:54] <MajGenRelativity> just
use the SI
L2189[15:38:16] <Noob> Forecaster:
everything is precisely calibrated based on metric standarts,
because there are *no* definitive imperial standarts
L2190[15:38:34] <Forecaster> I don't know
what SI is
L2191[15:38:53] <Noob> SI = metric
system
L2192[15:39:06] <Forecaster> ah
L2193[15:39:30] <Forecaster> what does
that stand for?
L2194[15:39:36] <Forecaster> I've never
heard that
L2195[15:40:03] <Noob> Système
International d'Unités (SI), or in english: International System of
Units
L2196[15:40:19] <Forecaster> ah
L2199[15:42:10] <MajGenRelativity> I'm
going to create a wing of my house with increasing security that
kills everyone but me
L2200[15:42:32] <Noob> And I assure you,
not a single imperial unit has been calibrated even remotely close
to this
L2201[15:43:01] <Forecaster> ah yes, I
watched a video about that
L2202[15:43:05] <Forecaster> hence the
weight thing
L2203[15:43:12] <Noob> And that's exactly
why imperial system is obsolete and not even american scientists
use it
L2204[15:43:46] <Noob> Actually, the only
people who still use imperial units are common folk
L2205[15:44:55] <scj643> I listened to a
Radiolab episode about it
L2206[15:45:37] <MajGenRelativity> I must
go
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L2208[15:46:14] <CodeNinja> Can I have
that jar launcher
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L2210[15:48:58] <Noob> Another reason why
imperial units are nowhere near precise is because their definition
is quite stupid. SI units are defined through eachother, i.e. you
could get precise definition of one unit through another (like they
did with Kg, by adding just as much moles as they needed to reach
perfect kilogram)
L2212[15:49:45] *
Elizabeth needs to have a shower
L2213[15:49:48] *
Elizabeth is now afk
L2214[15:50:24] <Noob> Imperial units on
the other hand are circus of madness. Just take Farenheit for
example:
L2215[15:50:30] <Noob> The lower defining
point, 0 degrees, was established as the temperature of a solution
of brine made from equal parts of ice and salt.
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L2217[15:51:18] <scj643> Damn
L2218[15:52:16] <Noob> Just why on earth
everyone would want to know exact point of brine solution made of
ice and salt?
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L2221[15:55:15] <Noob> Not to mention
that to actually convert Farenheit to Celcius, you have not only to
subtract, but also multiply it by 5/9, which is precisely
0,5555555555555555555555555555555....6
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L2223[15:55:45] <Noob> *substract
32
L2224[15:56:24] <Noob> In other words,
any imperial unit is a total nightmare.
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L2226[15:56:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob:
before you go on keep in mind that those very imprecise and stupid
measurements got people to the moon.
L2227[15:58:24] <scj643> Lol
L2228[16:02:44] <scj643> My server is
up
L2229[16:03:14] ***
Daiyousei is now known as SleepingFairy
L2230[16:04:06] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty:
Well, just imagine where people would wind up if they were to use
imperial units while performing intergalactic hyperjumps... I'm
sure the first expedition would accidentally miss like 1 billion km
and ship would crash into bright star or something like that
L2231[16:04:33] <Izaya> said measurements
recently crashed a sattelite
L2232[16:04:54] <Noob> Thats why humanity
must entirely move on to SI before starting to use warp
drives.
L2233[16:05:14] <scj643> Satellites are
expensive
L2234[16:05:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Noob:
Imperial measurements are stupid because they are not in any
relationship to each other. but they are as precise as SI.
L2235[16:05:36] <scj643> Well my server
will be up I goofed and forgot forge essentials
L2236[16:06:06] <Kodos> We need OC
satellites that provide dimension-wide wireless network coverage,
with a special card (Satellite Uplink Card?)
L2237[16:06:14] <scj643> Yes
L2238[16:06:23] <scj643> We need that and
it will be in my pack
L2239[16:06:41] <Kodos> I just need to
put a security spin on it
L2240[16:06:57] <scj643> 8 bit encryption
:D
L2242[16:08:25] <Izaya> scj,
L2243[16:08:34] <Izaya> everyone heard
you
L2244[16:08:39] <Izaya> the first
time
L2245[16:08:40] <Kodos> scj643,
seriously, just go make a thread
L2246[16:09:33] <scj643> Not yet
L2247[16:09:42] <scj643> Once we get it
fully up then yes
L2248[16:09:59] <scj643> Trying to do
this professionally with planing and such
L2249[16:10:40] <Izaya> also
L2250[16:10:49] <Izaya> fuck your
launchers
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L2252[16:12:10] <scj643>
Http://scj643.theender.net/mcmods for all you too good for my
launcher people
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L2254[16:12:49] <scj643> In the process
of finding a good spawn point
L2255[16:13:31] <scj643> Using spread
players a lot
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L2258[16:20:00] <scj643> Found a spawn
point
L2259[16:23:05] <Kodos> I have a great
idea
L2260[16:23:11] <Kodos> Why not make an
IRC channel for your server
L2261[16:24:10] <Forecaster> but that
requires going on an epic quest and getting the hear of a dragon to
exchange for a channel
L2262[16:24:20] <gamax92> hear
L2263[16:24:50] <Forecaster> apparently
the connection process has changed on esper
L2264[16:24:56] <Forecaster> my old bot
doesn't work anymore
L2265[16:25:02] <Elizabeth> ?
L2266[16:25:12] <Forecaster> or I broke
it at some point and forgot about it
L2267[16:26:18] <Forecaster> oh hey
Elizabeth, I have a letsplay series that sometimes features OC,
would it be okay to have my new publishing system post
announcements here for relevant episodes?
L2268[16:26:23] <Forecaster> (once I get
it working)
L2269[16:26:58] <Elizabeth> as long as
it's not too spammy, sure, i don't mind
L2270[16:27:24] <Forecaster> I publish an
episode every other day
L2271[16:27:34] <gamax92> too
spammy
L2272[16:27:40] <Forecaster> at 1pm
L2273[16:27:47] <gamax92> timezones are a
thing.
L2274[16:28:00] <gamax92> when you say
1pm nobody knows what you mean.
L2275[16:28:05] <Forecaster> I know
:P
L2276[16:28:12] <Forecaster> UTC +1
L2277[16:28:32] <scj643> ......
L2278[16:28:33] <Elizabeth> so about 2pm
GMT, that's fine
L2279[16:29:13] <scj643> Got my own
channel #scj643
L2280[16:29:28] <Elizabeth> i really need
to start watching your lets play episodes all the way through,
Forecaster. I have a habit of watching bits of them :/
L2281[16:29:46] <Forecaster> I'm glad
people are watching them at all ^^
L2282[16:30:46] <Elizabeth> also i should
probably do some videos on the complex (read: crowded) signal
systems i do sometimes
L2283[16:31:05] <Elizabeth> though
that'll probably come when i get my server back up properly, which
is in the works
L2284[16:31:07] <scj643> Everyone that is
into my server join #scj643
L2285[16:31:28] <Izaya> I should update
my server
L2286[16:31:37] <Forecaster> oops, I'm
actually on UTC/GMT +2
L2287[16:31:49] <Forecaster> I remembered
wrong
L2288[16:31:50] <Elizabeth> meh, doesn't
matter
L2289[16:31:54] <Izaya> *no-one joins
scj's channel*
L2290[16:32:00] <scj643> Lizzy why was
enderrelay spamming in your channel
L2292[16:32:25] <scj643> Elizabeth:
L2293[16:32:39] <scj643> Still getting
used to the name Chang
L2294[16:32:39] <scj643> E
L2295[16:33:02] <Elizabeth> scj643,
because i was switching ssh socks proxies between Janus and Athar.
I loaded syncthing on athar which was on 8081, on janus' port 8081
a bot listens on it
L2296[16:33:16] <scj643> Dang
L2297[16:33:23] <Elizabeth> anyway,
bedtime
L2298[16:33:25] <Elizabeth> O
L2299[16:33:27] <Elizabeth> ¬_¬
L2300[16:33:28] <Elizabeth> \o
L2301[16:33:35] <Elizabeth> need to
remember where that \ is
L2302[16:33:35] <scj643> Night
L2303[16:33:42] <Forecaster> o)
L2304[16:33:43] <Izaya> mrw I can't
remember which box I had my bot on
L2305[16:33:50] <scj643> is more
important
L2306[16:33:51] <Izaya> ssh: not even
once
L2307[16:33:55] <scj643> ./
L2308[16:34:25] <scj643> Still no one on
my channel
L2309[16:34:39] <Forecaster> I know
nothing about your server :P
L2310[16:34:49] <Kodos> Go ask about it
in the channel
L2311[16:34:52] <scj643> Want to it's all
in my channel
L2312[16:35:20] <scj643> #scj643
L2313[16:35:25] <Forecaster> I need to go
to bed though I'm afraid
L2314[16:35:39] <Ender> "scj643:
Still no one on my channel" HA
L2315[16:35:42] <Forecaster> it's getting
late, and I'm getting up at 5am
L2316[16:35:45] <Forecaster> :P
L2317[16:35:47] <scj643> :( in the
eastern part channel
L2318[16:35:54] <scj643> Of the
world
L2319[16:36:01] <scj643> Wtf was I
thinking
L2320[16:40:31] <Izaya> UTC+2 is more or
less the middle of the world
L2321[16:40:43] <scj643> Still no
one
L2322[16:40:44] <Izaya> NZ is east-as
though
L2323[16:44:39] <Antheus> \o
L2324[16:44:44] <scj643> I got my pack in
a 7z format for people who are picky
L2325[16:47:20] <Kodos> ...
L2326[16:47:29] <Kodos> scj643, use your
channel for any further discussions of your pack/server
L2327[16:47:54] <scj643> Can't if no one
is in it
L2328[16:48:05] <Kodos> Not my
problem
L2329[16:48:20] <Kodos> At this point,
you're basically spamming the channel
L2331[16:48:55] <scj643> Spam
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L2333[16:50:03] <Antheus> nooo not
v^
L2334[16:54:07] *
Ender puts his hand on Elizabeth's chest to feel her heart beats
then starts tapping it out on the table....
taptaptaptap
L2335[16:54:21] *
Antheus stares at Ender
L2336[16:54:45] <scj643> Lol
L2337[16:54:54] *
Ender looks at Antheus whilst tapping
L2338[16:54:54] <Noob> DeanIsaKitty:
imperial units aren't as precise as SI units are, because since
there is no relationship to eachother, imperial units cannot be
easily defined like kilogram or meter or other units from SI. And
because theres no definitive convention even to such a thing as
mile, it's impossible to define "the only and true mile"
even if you base them on SI
L2339[16:55:00] *
scj643 yells perv
L2340[16:55:05] *
Antheus pulls out his sonic screwdriver
L2341[16:55:43] <Antheus> Noob: a mile is
~1700ft
L2342[16:55:47] <Antheus> can't say
exactly
L2343[16:55:51] <Kodos> 5280
L2344[16:55:53] <Antheus> oh
L2345[16:56:05] *
Ender glares at scj643
L2346[16:58:29] *
Ender picks up both Elizabeth and vifino and puts them to
bed
L2347[16:58:42] <Noob> Antheus: you see,
that's the point. You say ~, because theres like 3 existing miles:
International mile(1.609344), Nautical mile(1.852) and US
mile(1.60934721869)
L2348[17:00:20] *
Ender hops into his hammock and slowly falls asleep
L2349[17:00:51] <Noob> Antheus: and I'm
talking only about miles that acknowledged as standarts. I'm not
even talking about other flavors of miles. But you see, you said
1700 feet... and guess what!
L2350[17:01:23] *
Evey hops into Ender's hammock and sleeps on Ender
L2352[17:02:35] *
Ender stokes Evey's hair and falls asleep himself
L2353[17:03:03] <Noob> So basically we
have multiple levels of undefined bullshit with no defined and
totally acknowledged standart in neither miles or feets
L2354[17:05:41] <Noob> That's the reason
why not a single imperial unit is any near precise any of SI units.
And that's the reason why it's no longer used in anything more
serious than length of a car or weight of chair.
L2355[17:06:20] <Kodos> 'MURICA
L2356[17:07:48] <scj643> Or size of a
TV
L2357[17:08:03] <scj643> Though wouldn't
centimeters make it sound bigger
L2358[17:08:50] <scj643> Also what
happend to everyone that plays on my server
L2359[17:11:04] <vifino> woo
L2360[17:11:14] *
vifino falls asleep on Elizabeth
L2361[17:39:06] <scj643> Anyone good with
railcraft
L2362[17:40:19] <Kodos> Which part
L2364[17:40:27] ***
Cranium is now known as Cranium[Away]
L2365[17:40:51] <scj643> Signaling
L2366[17:40:58] <Kodos> Not me
L2367[17:41:06] <scj643> Got a one line
rail that needs to not crash
L2368[17:41:34] *
Antheus wonders when someone will fill in the rc api
wiki
L2369[17:48:37] <gamax92> never.
L2370[17:49:12] <Noob> I feel like nobody
even cares about wiki anymore lol
L2371[17:49:22] <Antheus> what's the
difference between io.open and fs.open
L2372[17:50:22] <Noob> Antheus: one is
implemented by OS (and therefore supports some things from VFS) and
other is component called filesystem
L2374[17:51:08] <Antheus> Noob: fs as in
the filesystem api
L2375[17:51:10] <Antheus> not the
component
L2376[17:52:52] <Noob> Kodos: I wish
galacticraft would keep on with developing like it used to. Instead
it's becoming a playground of unfulfilled dreams.
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L2378[17:54:30] <Noob> My main issue with
GC that they apparently gave up on promise to add a lot of awesome
and really necessary and unique things to planets. And to add more
planets as well
L2379[17:55:06] <Kodos> Honestly, I
stopped giving a shit about GC once I realized how much of an
asshole Radfast is, and saw that Micdoodle is working on StarMade
now
L2380[17:55:55] <Noob> Wait what, so
micdoodle decided to make his own game and radfast is a lazy ass?
That's... lame ._.
L2381[17:56:02] <Kodos> It's not his own
game
L2382[17:56:11] <Kodos> him and Bspkrs
were both invited onto the dev team
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L2385[17:56:32] <Turtle> I mean, tbh,
galacticraft is not -that- impressive
L2386[17:56:40] <gamax92> galacticraft is
pretty lame
L2387[17:56:43] <Antheus> ^
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L2389[17:56:46] <Kodos> I've been keeping
an eye on Advanced Rocketry
L2390[17:56:56] <Kodos> That mod has
satellites, building your own rockets, and all sorts of shit
L2391[17:57:01] <Turtle> It did some neat
tricks with launches and stuff, but yeah it´s not terribly
interesting
L2392[17:57:13] <Noob> I loved the idea
of GC at first, because I like space stuff and all that. At first
it was great, when GC3 was released I was excited, but
then...
L2393[17:57:27] <Turtle> That said, is
there a cap to how many dimensions you can generate in
minecraft?
L2394[17:57:39] <Noob> *whispers* ...but
then radfast happened...
L2395[17:57:41] <Kodos> %g Minecraft
dimension Limit
L2397[17:57:46] *
gamax92 would guess it's an int?
L2398[17:57:51] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L2399[17:58:05] <Turtle> It´s an int,
dimensionID, no idea if there´s an allocation system though
L2400[17:58:30] <Turtle> I know
RFTools/Mystcraft will eventually crap out the computer you run
minecraft on if you load to many dimensions at once, but besides
the hard disk limit, I´m not sure how many you can generate if it
isn´t int_max
L2401[17:58:51] <Noob> Advanced Rocketry
is nice, though I dont really like how overcomplicated does it go
with all those data IDs and planets. I mean, I dont get the point
why so much legwork to fly to the moon ._.
L2402[17:59:24] <Kodos> I just like the
satellite system
L2403[17:59:42] <Kodos> We need OC
satellites that provide dimension-wide wireless network coverage,
with a special card (Satellite Uplink Card?)
L2404[18:00:04] <Turtle> OpenRadio is
working on -something- like that iirc
L2405[18:00:18] <Kodos> OpenRadio?
L2406[18:00:38] <Turtle> idk, I got told
it was going to do some of those things when I started relearning
forge
L2407[18:00:50] <Kodos> Who's the dev of
OpenRadio, so I know who to harass
L2408[18:00:54] <Noob> I'd like it if it
wasn't like necessary thing. I shouldn't collect all that data just
to fly to a planet. And if that planet will turn out to be hell
with extreme temperature that will be my own bad for not
investigating it first, I agree
L2409[18:01:11] <Turtle> Noob: We didn´t
exactly kerbal our way onto the moon
L2410[18:02:31] <Turtle> hmh, can
dimension skyboxes/celestials be changed after dimension
creation?
L2411[18:02:59] <Noob> Turtle: I believe
so, AR2 showed that he could alter it with commands
L2412[18:03:11] <scj643> FE doesn't
prevent people from interacting with OC :(
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L2414[18:03:24] <Kodos>
computer.addUser
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L2416[18:03:58] <Noob> But I do hope that
Advanced Rocketry will get advanced enough to like send an
autonomous mission and deploy something like OC robot. Then this
mod would totally replace GC :D
L2417[18:04:35] <scj643> Oh yeah
L2418[18:04:55] <Turtle> Hmm, I may have
a little interesting idea
L2419[18:05:40] <scj643> What
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L2421[18:05:58] <Noob> The mod author
should add "advanced guidance computer" or something like
that so the rocket would be controlled through regular OC computer
as component lol
L2422[18:06:07] <gamax92> Turtle: is it a
coremod that replaces the beep code with the old funky
version?
L2423[18:06:14] <Turtle> gamax92, no,
sadly.
L2424[18:06:14] <gamax92> because I did
that
L2425[18:06:35] <Turtle> The glitchyness
of minecraft vehicles should be quite easily cheatable by just
making the vehicle a dimension, got some things I want to work on
with
L2426[18:08:22] <Turtle> It might be
heresy though to limit multiplayer servers to a set number of
vehicles
L2427[18:08:31] <Noob> Minecraft is very
bad with vehicles. I never seen a single good implementation of any
moving machine
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L2429[18:08:42] <scj643> Minecarts
L2430[18:09:02] <Noob> Laggy and totally
without collisions (almost)
L2431[18:09:23] <scj643> Railcraft mine
carts
L2432[18:09:30] <Turtle> But yeah,
something alike to how starbound does it could work pretty
decently
L2433[18:09:56] <Noob> Same story with
those, only they're a bit better because you can make them joined
and keep specific distance
L2434[18:10:01] <scj643> #lua boom
L2435[18:10:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L2436[18:10:08] <scj643> #lua nil
L2437[18:10:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L2438[18:10:26] <scj643> #lua 2%3
L2439[18:10:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
2
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L2441[18:11:47] <Turtle> hmh, can you
limit travel across dimensions without breaking mods like
sync?
L2442[18:12:05] <Kodos> Pretty sure Sync
has a config that prevents interdimensional Syncing
L2443[18:12:13] <Noob> OC chunkloader
upgrades are weird
L2444[18:12:31] <Kodos> Did you stick it
in a robot
L2445[18:12:31] <Turtle> Yeah, but I ment
having a specific dimension only accessable via a single portal,
and without mystcraft books/whatever working
L2446[18:12:39] <Kodos> Ah, no idea
L2447[18:12:53] <scj643> I can use forge
essentials to control inventories
L2448[18:13:18] <Noob> I have vanilla
redstone timer scheme triggering command block #1 and a robot with
upgrade that triggers redstone with command block #2
L2449[18:13:23] <Dashkal> Turtle: It's
potentially possible, but depends on if the mods in question
provides hooks that let you cancel the transfer. I don't know if
forge even has such hooks.
L2450[18:13:28] <Noob> I've made sure
both things are in same chunk
L2451[18:13:58] <Noob> But guess what,
only command block #2 gets triggered and other computer gets shut
down as soon as I leave that place lol
L2452[18:14:04] <Turtle> Dashkal, I
figured as much, forcibly doing such is likely to cause
issues
L2453[18:14:17] <Noob> Yet robot and cmd
block #2 keep working
L2454[18:14:19] <Kodos> Chunkloading
upgrades only work in Robots afaik
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L2456[18:14:23] <Dashkal> I can pretty
much promise that there are mods that don't sanely support
this.
L2457[18:14:57] <Noob> I know, it's just
weird how robot keeps only portion of chunk loaded while everything
else gets disabled
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L2459[18:15:19] <Noob> I expected robot
to keep alive entire chunk, not just things it's interacting
with
L2460[18:15:45] <Turtle> I don´t think
minecraft even supports loading anything but a whole chunk
L2461[18:15:54] <scj643> It doesn't
L2462[18:16:11] <Turtle> scj643, you
could do some really fucky file IO, but yeah no
L2463[18:16:12] <Noob> Then how to
explain that command block #1 never works unless i return to that
same chunk robot is in?
L2464[18:16:12] <scj643> Also the chunks
next it it have to be loaded
L2465[18:16:42] <scj643> Turtle Fucky
file io to what
L2466[18:16:56] <Turtle> You -could-
hackily read the world data and modify it
L2467[18:17:00] <Noob> Yet command block
#2 actually works even if everyone leaves server... and both cmd
blocks are in *same* chunk
L2468[18:17:05] <Turtle> but that´s a
dumb idea because it´s dumb.
L2469[18:17:16] <scj643> Why do I need to
do that
L2470[18:17:27] <Turtle> modifying the
world without loading an entire chunk
L2471[18:17:52] <Noob> Dont know, I've
noticed thats how OC chunkloader upgrade works
L2472[18:18:13] *
S3 spins around in his chair and yells, wheeee!
L2473[18:18:28] <Noob> I've connected two
command blocks with redstone, and now robot triggers them both even
if players leave server
L2474[18:18:39] <Noob> That's just weird
lol
L2475[18:18:46] <scj643> Hi s3
L2476[18:19:00] <scj643> I got my own
channel for pack talk #scj643
L2477[18:19:10] <Noob> By the way, what
does wakeMessage do for modems?
L2478[18:19:13] <Turtle> but, I´ll have
to look into worldprovider tomorrow, I might want to work out this
idea
L2479[18:19:18] <Turtle> Noob: Start up
the computer
L2480[18:19:21] <Noob> Is it turning on
computers, or just making modem wake up?
L2481[18:19:27] <Kodos> Noob, if a
network message is broadcast that matches the message, it boots
that computer
L2482[18:19:37] <Kodos> So you can
mass-boot server racks and shiz
L2483[18:19:48] <Noob> So how does it
work? I set up that message once and it stored inside network card
forever?
L2484[18:19:52] <Kodos> Yup
L2485[18:20:04] <Noob> Even if I
reinstall it and/or put it inside microconroller?
L2486[18:20:14] <Kodos> That, I'm not
entirely sure
L2487[18:20:18] <scj643> So s3 are you
avalible
L2488[18:21:22] <Noob> Gonna test that,
would be handy. I decided to keep alive my microcontrollers by
ever-living robot who would send "wakeup" message
wirelessly. I hope that will work ._.
L2489[18:21:47] <Kodos> You could always
have a second Microcontroller just repeating the message over and
over
L2490[18:21:51] <Turtle> ... hmmm, I
wonder if forcing running computers/servers to keep a machine
working would be a fair game mechanic.
L2491[18:21:53] <scj643> Wakeuo on
wlan
L2492[18:22:03] <scj643> It isn't
L2493[18:22:15] <Turtle> (That is, event
is fired -> component call must be made or machine stalls)
L2494[18:22:20] <scj643> You have to pay
for that in my opinion
L2495[18:22:21] <Noob> Kodos: they would
both go offline once players leave server, and that wont be
good
L2496[18:22:58] <scj643> Most chunk
loaders are made so they only work when the player is online
L2497[18:23:18] <Noob> OC chunk loaders
work even when no one is online as I've found out
L2498[18:23:35] <scj643> Not good
L2499[18:23:37] <Kodos> Anchors from
Railcraft work, too
L2500[18:23:41] <Noob> At least they keep
robots on and thats good enough for me
L2501[18:23:51] <scj643> Yeah but their
are more than one type of those
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L2503[18:24:08] <scj643> And they can be
disabled
L2504[18:24:09] <Noob> Unfortunately I
dont know other chunkloaders for 1.8 so...
L2505[18:24:36] <scj643> oh your on
1.8
L2506[18:24:39] <scj643> That
L2507[18:24:45] <scj643> Explains a
lot
L2508[18:24:50] <Noob> Yup.
L2509[18:24:57] <scj643> OC is probably
the most advanced mod for 1.8
L2510[18:25:05] <Kodos> Not for much
longer
L2511[18:25:10] <Kodos> Thaumcraft 5 is
soon
L2512[18:25:13] <Noob> OC is the only mod
for 1.8
L2513[18:25:23] <scj643> No forge
essentials
L2514[18:25:53] <Noob> Other
"mods" are either in "pre pre alpha" version or
not even big deal at all
L2515[18:26:08] <Noob> Any
energy/resource mods for 1.8 btw?
L2516[18:26:29] <scj643> Non afaik
L2517[18:26:30] <Kodos> Power Advantage
is the only one I know of
L2518[18:26:58] <scj643> Does it work
with OC
L2519[18:27:05] <Kodos> Yes
L2520[18:27:11] <scj643> OK
L2521[18:27:12] <S3> ok scj643
L2522[18:27:16] <S3> how do I get on the
server
L2523[18:27:28] <Kodos> Head over to
#scj643 to find out
L2524[18:27:54] <Noob> Kodos: you mean
like OC completely recognizes it and it works with OC energy and
all that?
L2525[18:28:04] <Kodos> Yes, specific
compatibility was added for it
L2526[18:28:20] <Noob> Hm then I might
give it a try later
L2527[18:29:20] <Dahling> Wow, firefox
randomly froze
L2528[18:29:22] <Dahling> .p
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L2530[18:29:24] <Dahling> =ping
L2531[18:29:34] <Dahling> #p
L2532[18:29:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.38852163 Seconds passed.
L2533[18:29:41] <Dahling> And it's
back
L2534[18:29:58] <Dahling> #lua
32*64*128
L2535[18:29:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
262144
L2536[18:32:18] <scj643> #lua
2^2^2^2^2
L2537[18:32:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
inf
L2538[18:32:26] <scj643> #lua 2^2
L2539[18:32:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
4.0
L2540[18:34:43] <Kodos> #lua 2^5
L2541[18:34:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
32.0
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L2543[18:58:39] <S3> WTF IS THIS
CRAP
L2544[18:58:43] <S3> liteloader is
shit
L2545[18:58:53] <S3> why no you cease to
exist
L2546[18:58:59] <Caitlyn> s/is/is
the/
L2547[18:58:59] <Kibibyte> <S3> why
no you cease to exis thet
L2548[18:59:06] <Caitlyn> damnit.
L2550[18:59:24] <Caitlyn> s/ is / is the
/
L2551[18:59:24] <Kibibyte> <S3>
liteloader is the shit
L2552[18:59:28] <Caitlyn> close
enough
L2553[18:59:44] <S3> too messy to set up.
no point
L2554[19:00:05] <Caitlyn> All you have to
do is toss the extracted jar into your mods directory
L2555[19:00:09] <Caitlyn> what's so hard
to set up?
L2557[19:00:28] <Caitlyn> sure you CAN
setup the chained loader bullshit
L2558[19:00:30] <Caitlyn> but why
L2559[19:00:34] <S3> also this modpack
loaded in 10 seconds
L2560[19:00:51] <S3> installing
liteloader causes it to take several minutes
L2561[19:00:54] <S3> wtf?
L2562[19:01:02] <S3> ctrl c ctrl c
L2563[19:01:11] <Caitlyn> Adding LL to my
pack added like 0 loading time.
L2564[19:01:22] <S3> not dealing with
that piece of junk
L2565[19:01:27] <Caitlyn> but then again,
I didn't bother with the chained loader shit.. which might make a
difference.
L2566[19:03:45] <Caitlyn> god damn it
fucking javasound
L2567[19:04:04] <S3> haha
L2568[19:04:05] <Caitlyn> s/va/va /
L2569[19:04:05] <Kibibyte>
<Caitlyn> god damn it fucking java sound
L2570[19:04:11] <S3> remove liteloader,
mods load super fast
L2572[19:04:28] <Caitlyn> I can play
straight mp3 files, straight ogg files, and ogg streams.
L2573[19:04:36] <Caitlyn> but MP3
streams? nope sounds like shit
L2574[19:06:02] <S3> ogg what
L2575[19:06:06] <S3> ogg can contain
anything :P
L2576[19:06:09] <S3> ogg is just a
container
L2577[19:06:18] <CodeNinja> egg.ogg
L2578[19:06:19] <S3> it could be ogg
flac, ogg vorbis, ogg... etc
L2580[19:06:31] <CodeNinja>
egg.nogg
L2581[19:06:35] <CodeNinja> oops
L2582[19:06:39] <CodeNinja>
eggn.ogg
L2583[19:06:44] <CodeNinja> better
L2584[19:06:48] <Caitlyn> I don't
honestly fucking care at this point. The part that matters is it's
fucked my mp3 playback.
L2585[19:07:18] <CodeNinja> The child
will be hideous im sure
L2586[19:07:20] <Caitlyn> also, it's a
vorbis decoder. Which is all I fucking care to add, IF I even
bother.
L2587[19:08:10] *
CodeNinja hides from the aftermath of a really stupid
joke
L2588[19:09:49] <Caitlyn> I'm using
javax.sound.sampled, which uses the vorbis and mp3 spi
L2589[19:09:57] <Izaya> yes that was
terribad
L2590[19:10:01] <Izaya> nice/10
L2591[19:10:02] <Caitlyn> which works
fine for everything EXCEPT mp3 streams.
L2592[19:10:43] <CodeNinja> whats so
special about streams that they refuse to cooperate
L2593[19:11:01] *
Caitlyn shrugs
L2594[19:11:07] <Izaya> are files not
streams?
L2595[19:11:23] <Caitlyn> Yes.. it
streams files with no issue.
L2596[19:11:33] <Caitlyn> but not like
shoutcast streams and the like
L2597[19:11:51] <Caitlyn> the sound
glitches out, then I get a index out of bounds trying to write to
the buffer
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L2599[19:14:04] <Dahling> Maybe the
problem is that you're using Java
L2600[19:14:06] <CodeNinja> Do motion
events fired by a motion detector return "player" or
"(IGN)" when it detects a player?
L2601[19:14:07] <Dahling> just a
suggestion
L2602[19:14:36] <Kodos> ~w motion
sensor
L2604[19:14:55] <Caitlyn> Dahling, ok,
sounds good. Go ahead and port Minecraft, Forge, and OpenComputers
to something better, I'll wait.
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L2606[19:15:25] <Caitlyn> Since you know,
this is for OpenFM, a Minecraft mod.
L2607[19:15:30] <Dahling> Maybe don't use
javax apis
L2608[19:15:34] <Dahling> just a
suggestion
L2609[19:15:45] <Kodos> Maybe don't be a
shit
L2610[19:15:45] <Caitlyn> Better
suggestion? Javazoom works fine for MP3 but I can't get it to play
ogg
L2611[19:15:49] <Kodos> just a
suggestion
L2612[19:15:56] <Dahling> So then use
both?
L2613[19:16:04] <Caitlyn> You wanna
implement it?
L2614[19:16:11] <Dahling> I dunno, do
I?
L2615[19:16:16] <Caitlyn> I don't fucking
know.
L2616[19:16:22] <Dahling> I don't
either
L2617[19:16:43] *
Izaya sighs
L2618[19:16:58] <Izaya> Right, got
something done for a change
L2619[19:17:22] <Dahling> Oh yay, Firefox
is caught in yet another infinate loop
L2620[19:17:48] <Dahling> Why does such a
modern browser get killed by "such malicious" while
(true) {} loops
L2621[19:17:57] <Dahling> No clue
L2622[19:18:21] <CodeNinja> Kodos: I read
the documentation
L2623[19:18:35] <Kodos> Did you check the
signals page that was linked
L2624[19:19:22] <CodeNinja> I want to
know if the string returned for entityName , when the entity is a
player, is something like "player" or the player's
IGN
L2625[19:19:38] <Kodos> Pretty sure it's
the IGN
L2626[19:19:44] <CodeNinja> OK\
L2627[19:20:07] <CodeNinja> dang, motion
sensor requires LOS
L2628[19:20:19] <CodeNinja> guess ill be
using radar then
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L2630[19:27:14] <CompanionCube>
Grrr.
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L2633[19:37:02] <S3> scj643: you got some
weird stuff going on
L2634[19:37:05] <S3> on that server
L2636[19:37:24] <CodeNinja> wait, the
server's up?
L2637[19:38:03] <Kodos> Remember to go
talk in #scj643 for his server
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L2639[19:43:03] <Kodos> Z-Tones Tinted
Glass looks wicked nice
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L2641[19:44:23] <CodeNinja> ehh... I like
TNT
L2642[19:44:34] <Kodos> TNT?
L2643[19:44:43] <CodeNinja> its nice and
creeper unresistant
L2644[19:45:24] <CodeNinja> in fact it
amplifies creepers
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L2648[19:53:50] *
Inari stabs v^
L2649[19:54:29] *
v^ stabs Inari
L2650[19:56:48] *
Antheus stabs v^ and Inari
L2651[19:56:55] <Antheus> Inari: I named
my laptop after you
L2652[19:57:12] <Inari> wasnt it a server
the other day
L2653[19:57:28] <Antheus> Thats what I
mean
L2654[19:57:35] <Antheus> the server is a
ol
L2655[19:57:38] <Antheus> d macbook
pro
L2657[19:57:46] <MichiBot> vifino:
How
to Hide Your Porn | length:
6m 2s | Likes:
28978 Dislikes:
4907 Views:
568910 | by
LinusTechTips
L2658[19:57:51] <scj643> Wow
L2659[19:57:52] <Antheus> 0_0
L2660[19:57:56] <scj643> Linus did
that
L2661[19:58:04] <vifino> I died watching
that video.
L2662[19:58:06] <vifino> RIP.
L2663[19:58:18] <Antheus> Vic: do you
hide your porn?
L2664[19:58:19] <Antheus> er
L2665[19:58:24] <Antheus> vifino*
L2666[19:58:46] <vifino> I don't need to
hide it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L2667[19:58:54] <vifino> imeanwhat
L2668[19:58:54] <Inari> lizzy is lewd and
likes it
L2669[19:59:09] <Inari> [02:58:54]
*Elizabeth* I'm sorry, but I'm away (Probably detached from tmux)
<- wut?
L2670[19:59:19] <Inari> ah, reacting to
HL
L2671[19:59:21] <Inari> i see :P
L2672[19:59:22] <vifino> Inari: auto away
message
L2673[19:59:28] <vifino>
thingiemadoodle
L2674[19:59:43] <Inari> how to hide your
porn: 1) dont
L2675[19:59:52] <scj643> Is s3
alive?
L2676[20:00:07] <vifino> Inari:
vifino-style :D
L2677[20:01:01] <vifino> I could also say
that I don't have porn, but the other way is funnier.
L2678[20:01:03] <v^> LOLWHAT LINUS
L2680[20:01:26] <Inari> vifino: heh
:P
L2682[20:02:01] <v^> he's so serious
about it
L2683[20:02:03] <v^> its hilarious
L2684[20:02:14] <v^> "we make your
CPU wet"
L2685[20:02:22] <vifino> v^: most of it
is luke
L2686[20:02:39] <vifino> Inari: all hail
the internet ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L2687[20:02:57] <Antheus> My CPU gets wet
the second it sees me
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L2689[20:03:02] <Antheus> imeanwhat
L2690[20:03:17] <vifino> wow, you must be
really cold.
L2691[20:03:25] <Inari> vifino: aka, you
dont hide your porn cause its in temp folder and gets auto-deleted
anyway after the browser closed the tab
L2692[20:03:27] <Inari> :P
L2693[20:03:27] <CodeNinja> Here is heat
ray
L2694[20:03:35] <Antheus> do you have to
require the IO api?
L2695[20:03:48] <CodeNinja> Capable of
temperatures over one milllion degrees Celsuis
L2696[20:04:02] <vifino> Inari: haha,
yes
L2697[20:04:02] <Inari> here is the
violating cold ray
L2698[20:04:11] <Inari> capable
temeperature of below minus 10 kelvin
L2699[20:04:12] *
Antheus stabs vifino with his question above
L2700[20:04:22] <v^> Inari, i prefer a
ramfs
L2701[20:04:33] <vifino> Antheus:
w0t
L2702[20:04:40] <Antheus> <Antheus>
do you have to require the IO api?
L2703[20:04:49] <vifino> v^: dats /tmp
ok
L2704[20:04:51] <v^> because dry icing
ram is much harder than one of the many file recovery utility
L2705[20:04:54] <vifino> Antheus: for
whaaat
L2706[20:04:55] <vifino> lua?
L2707[20:04:56] <vifino> no
L2708[20:04:59] <Inari> eh, noone has any
point in looking at my stuff anyway, so even if they woudl and find
it, who cares, like 90% of people probably have pron and its their
fault for looking in the first place
L2709[20:05:36] <v^> "DJ Jesus.He
Died for your spins 1 week ago
L2710[20:05:36] <v^> i usually hide porn
in my skyrim mods folder"
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L2712[20:05:46] <v^> ,_, i did this
once
L2713[20:06:03] <Inari> well there are
skyrim mods that would be considered porn
L2714[20:06:45] <scj643> Linus tech tips
how to hide your porn is funny
L2715[20:07:16] <Antheus> ~w pcall
L2717[20:07:38] <vifino> Inari: Fallout
mods too.
L2718[20:07:45] <vifino> Not that I have
any or know any.
L2719[20:07:51] <Inari> oblivion mods
too
L2720[20:08:00] <v^> "Linus Tech
"Just The" Tips."
L2721[20:08:16] <v^> Inari, guilty of
that too
L2723[20:08:40] <Inari> > estrus
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L2725[20:10:36] <Antheus> Magik6k: RIP
Inari
L2726[20:10:38] <Antheus> err
L2727[20:10:44] <Antheus> >_<
L2728[20:11:15] <vifino> ripperoni in
pepperoni
L2729[20:13:20] <Antheus> ravioli ravioli
give me the formuoli
L2730[20:14:03] <vifino> noodles mixed
with :ds84182: and tomato sauce
L2731[20:16:58] <Dahling> salt?
L2732[20:16:59] <Dahling> SALT
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L2734[20:17:47] <ds84182> I hide my porn
in a zip archive with a name that has nothing to do with
porn.
L2735[20:18:04] <ds84182> And yes, it's
encrypted with several (one) layer(s) of ZIP file password
L2736[20:18:18] <ds84182> Dammit, I
forgot the name of the zip file
L2737[20:18:52] <ds84182> I cant find
it
L2738[20:19:05] <Kodos> Well you can't
say it didn't work
L2739[20:19:52] <ds84182> Welp, I can't
find it at all
L2740[20:19:58] <ds84182> yes/10
L2741[20:20:08] <ds84182> I think it's on
my windows partition
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L2743[20:21:24] <ds84182> Oh, I found
it.
L2744[20:21:31] <ds84182>
/media/dwayne/0EF00583F005726F/Users/Dwayne/Programs/files.rar
L2745[20:21:34] <ds84182> files.rar
L2746[20:21:35] <ds84182> nice.
L2747[20:21:59] <ds84182> Yep, thats the
one.
L2748[20:22:04] <ds84182> I though it was
a zip.
L2749[20:23:46] <ds84182> I also have an
empty file named the base 64 of a tag I wanted to remember
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L2752[20:24:31] <ds84182> I also have a
Windows Registry file to restore fonts back to old values and
change all the font fallbacks to Comic Sans, and only Comic
Sans
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L2754[20:26:30] <ds84182> Oh yes, and the
failed Lua decompiler
L2755[20:27:11] <ds84182> Holy shit, it
actually works
L2756[20:29:22] <ds84182> Holy hell, it
had a 4 stage inliner for a decompiled psuedo representation
thing
L2757[20:34:12] <Antheus> TFW you
accidently overwrite a directory with a file
L2758[20:35:02] <ds84182> touch /
L2759[20:44:22] <Antheus> gargh
L2760[20:45:20] <Antheus> tried to
require my API, got ... module 'potatolib' not found: .......
/lib/potatolib.lua:10: '(' expected near '.' ...
L2761[20:45:37] <Antheus> yet I see no
place where a ( is needed
L2763[20:47:17] *
Antheus wonders if vifino can answer his problem
L2764[20:51:55] <Kodos> Link me super's
API?
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L2767[20:54:38] <Antheus> Kodos: I seem
to have added "local" to the functions that are part of
the api
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L2769[20:54:57] <Kodos> Ah, yeah, th
at'll do it
L2770[20:55:05] <Kodos> Anyway, going to
bed
L2771[20:55:16] <Kodos> Wish me luck that
my liver test results come back okay tomorrow
L2772[20:55:30] <Antheus> Kodos: whats
wrong?
L2773[20:55:35] <vifino> Antheus: you
can't local a function in a table
L2774[20:55:44] <Antheus> vifino: I
forgot that
L2775[20:55:49] <Antheus> removed it and
now it works
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L2777[20:57:06] <CompanionCube> Antheus:
how does one even overwrite a dir with a file
L2778[20:57:36] <Antheus> wget
<link> /lib -f
L2779[20:57:49] <Antheus> figured it
would make /lib/potatolib.lua by itself
L2780[21:04:14] <scj643> Wembly: go to
#scj643 to get my pack
L2781[21:06:21] <Antheus> ~w modem
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duckduckno.
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