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L2[00:28:35] <Caitlyn> Hey marcin212 you around?
L3[00:32:37] <asie> Caitlyn: too early
L4[00:35:44] <Caitlyn> Damn, I opened an issue about it.. trying to figure out why OC cables always say the connection is obstructed
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L12[01:08:41] <sugoi> hi guys - i'm making a modpack that is a bit more into the IE style of mods
L13[01:08:48] <sugoi> but i'd like some other suggestions
L14[01:09:01] <sugoi> anyone have a list, such as posted on a pastebin, that i could consider?
L15[01:09:15] <Izaya> IE style? So buggy and outdated? :P
L16[01:09:15] <sugoi> all my experience is very IC2-esq
L17[01:09:25] <sugoi> Izaya: wuh!? really?
L18[01:09:35] <sugoi> i haven't even started playing!
L19[01:09:43] <sugoi> o_O
L20[01:09:43] <Izaya> Internet Explorer is buggy and outdated
L21[01:09:49] <sugoi> >.<
L22[01:09:51] <Izaya> "into the IE style of mods"
L23[01:09:52] <sugoi> immersive engineering
L24[01:10:11] <Izaya> :P
L25[01:10:22] <Caitlyn> Zetta Industries and Immersive Integration add nice OC stuff
L26[01:11:00] <sugoi> i wasn't super impressed with the little i saw about ZI -- maybe i didn't give it enough of a look-over
L27[01:11:08] <sugoi> not that i need to be wow'd
L28[01:11:21] <sugoi> just, didn't see how it'd be interesting to me
L29[01:11:36] <sugoi> Caitlyn: what about zi, just an example, do you like?
L30[01:11:50] <sugoi> and thanks for poiting out immersive integration, didn't know of it
L31[01:12:04] <sugoi> doing rail craft too, and considering rotary craft
L32[01:12:13] <Caitlyn> I'm sorry.
L33[01:12:16] <sugoi> but maybe rotary would be too much
L34[01:12:21] <sugoi> haven't used it before
L35[01:12:28] <sugoi> sorry?
L36[01:13:00] <Caitlyn> I'm sorry you're considering RtC. :P
L37[01:13:11] <Caitlyn> Whatever you do... don't try to connect it to your OC network.
L38[01:14:03] <sugoi> haha, well, just considering, haven't done any RtC
L39[01:14:19] <sugoi> just looking at old-world mods
L40[01:14:24] <sugoi> less magic-tech
L41[01:14:37] <Caitlyn> Everything in RtC is a component, so have a bunch of shafts? Yeah you're over a computers component limit..
L42[01:16:34] <sugoi> well and i probably have enough processing and power from IE, not seeing what i need from RtC
L43[01:16:45] <sugoi> but zi again, something you like?
L44[01:18:12] <Caitlyn> OC compatible IE wires
L45[01:18:16] <Caitlyn> though... they seem broken ATM
L46[01:18:25] <Caitlyn> But yeah, IE styled wires for connecting OC components
L47[01:19:57] <Caitlyn> I also use the RF meters cause OC can read energy values
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L50[01:21:51] <MrWonderful2012> Does open computers support tcp protocol
L51[01:22:20] <MrWonderful2012> As in do you have any way of knowing whether a packet you sent was actually received
L52[01:27:08] <MrWonderful2012> If I send a packet to my friends open computer to irc through the network api, how do I know if his computer is even on
L53[01:28:05] <MrWonderful2012> He is using the default irc program, but I am fine with writing a modified client to portscan him
L54[01:28:24] <Izaya> uh
L55[01:28:40] <MrWonderful2012> What?
L56[01:28:43] <Izaya> if he's not there he won't receive it
L57[01:28:49] <MrWonderful2012> I know
L58[01:28:59] <MrWonderful2012> Is there a way to tell if he did receive it
L59[01:29:19] <Izaya> his nick will be in the channel?
L60[01:29:29] <MrWonderful2012> His computer could be off
L61[01:29:33] <Izaya> and irc usually complains if you PM them and they're not on
L62[01:29:45] <MrWonderful2012> Or he could be running another program
L63[01:31:16] <MrWonderful2012> My question is that is it possible to send a network packet in such a way that you can know whether the remote host received the packet?
L64[01:32:27] <Izaya> make it ping I guess?
L65[01:32:59] <MrWonderful2012> Can you ping a port?
L66[01:33:25] <Izaya> if you write a program to ping back, sure
L67[01:34:18] <MrWonderful2012> His house is about 2000 blocks away and he lives in a different state in real life so that is a bit difficult
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L69[01:36:44] <MrWonderful2012> I am going to look at the code for ping and see if I can write a port scanner
L70[01:40:45] <MrWonderful2012> Hmm maybe I can use a modified version of it to write my own version of nmap in lua
L71[01:41:06] <MrWonderful2012> Might want to put it on the forums for people to download
L72[01:41:15] <MrWonderful2012> From GitHub
L73[01:43:06] <MrWonderful2012> Thank goodness open computers is open source
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L75[01:45:37] <MrWonderful2012> Aha
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L77[01:54:41] <MrWonderful2012> Does open OS send and unreadable port error if you try to udp with a closed port?
L78[01:56:35] <MrWonderful2012> ICMP I reachable port error
L79[01:57:34] <Izaya> nop - OC stuff has no way to check for such things
L80[01:57:47] <MrWonderful2012> Ah
L81[01:57:51] <Izaya> that's meant to be implimented by higher-level stuff
L82[01:58:02] <MrWonderful2012> Any way you know of to udp port scan open so
L83[01:58:06] <MrWonderful2012> OS
L84[01:58:22] <Izaya> nop
L85[02:04:16] <MrWonderful2012> What data types does the udp send packet and the icmp support
L86[02:04:41] <MrWonderful2012> Anything other than string
L87[02:04:48] <MrWonderful2012> Like hopefully data
L88[02:05:15] <MrWonderful2012> If I can specify the file name then I can totally do it
L89[02:16:21] <MrWonderful2012> Well then I guess if I want to find out I will need to do some kloogey hacks involving null byte injection to gain remote access to his computer so I can run IsOpen
L90[02:16:38] <MrWonderful2012> He has some tcp ports so I could do it
L91[02:20:13] <MrWonderful2012> He has a website hosted on his oc computer
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L97[02:37:26] <MrWonderful2012> Does oc support loadstring
L98[02:37:35] <Kodos|Zzz> I believe it's just load
L99[02:37:42] <Kodos|Zzz> Could be wrong tho
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L101[02:38:26] <MrWonderful2012> Does it compile the code
L102[02:38:34] <Skye> OC can load Lua source code, but not bytecode
L103[02:38:45] <MrWonderful2012> Yeah lua source code
L104[02:38:54] <MrWonderful2012> Good
L105[02:39:04] <Skye> It can spit out bytecode but not run the spit out version
L106[02:39:52] <MrWonderful2012> I can't believe that I am going to have to hack my friends oc computer just to see if port 1031 is open
L107[02:40:12] <Skye> Wha
L108[02:41:15] <MrWonderful2012> Null byte injection ftw
L109[02:41:26] <Skye> ... Pls
L110[02:41:48] <MrWonderful2012> Not a real computer in open computers
L111[02:41:58] <Skye> Eh?
L112[02:43:39] <MrWonderful2012> Basically he has a tcp port for a website within minecraft where you
L113[02:44:15] <MrWonderful2012> Can make posts and topics on his forum and view others posts and topics
L114[02:44:31] <Kodos> While you're hacking his computer, get me the code for that >.>
L115[02:44:55] <MrWonderful2012> Every topic is a file
L116[02:45:04] <MrWonderful2012> Every post is a line of text
L117[02:45:22] <MrWonderful2012> So it is really a file server
L118[02:45:46] <Kodos> Indeed, still want code :3
L119[02:45:54] <Kodos> I can cannibalize it for other things
L120[02:46:21] <MrWonderful2012> Sure
L121[02:48:36] <MrWonderful2012> I will use a null byte injection to change the thread I am posting to to init.lua
L122[02:49:27] <MrWonderful2012> By navigating to the non existing thread init.%00
L123[02:50:09] <MrWonderful2012> I mean bin .%00
L124[02:50:11] <MrWonderful2012> Sorry
L125[02:50:45] <MrWonderful2012> Then I can make a "post" on the thread init.lua
L126[02:51:08] <MrWonderful2012> Injecting my own code into the operating system
L127[02:51:41] <Izaya> that's
L128[02:51:45] <Izaya> actually pretty clever
L129[02:52:52] <MrWonderful2012> Next time the computer turns on, It opens a hidden port that is invisible to even the IsOpen command that allows me to run any shellcode I want remotely on his computer
L130[02:53:13] <MrWonderful2012> Stuff like IsOpen
L131[02:56:18] <MrWonderful2012> Remind me of the fun I had when I tried to hack my old computer that was running on windows 7
L132[02:57:23] <MrWonderful2012> Lua has some really interesting quirks like that it doesn't parse Unicode characters like null
L133[02:58:01] <MrWonderful2012> Shame a buffer overflow won't work on open computers
L134[02:58:21] <MrWonderful2012> Going over the memory allocation just blue screens it
L135[03:00:22] <MrWonderful2012> Shame
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L139[03:02:35] <Turtle> o/
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L142[03:04:56] <MrWonderful2012> I also could use that same null byte injection method to do a local file inclusion, making the server think that the website code is my forum thread that contains a script that gives me remote access to the open computers computer
L143[03:05:36] <MrWonderful2012> QNo waiting for to computer to reboot
L144[03:05:52] <MrWonderful2012> Or needing to ddos the computer to make it blue screen so it will reboot
L145[03:09:32] <MrWonderful2012> The best part is that it would work for any computer that allows some type of user input and has a script that executes one or more scripts
L146[03:11:13] <MrWonderful2012> So this could be used to hack any Open computers machine that allows viewing a restricted set of files
L147[03:11:28] <MrWonderful2012> YEAH!
L148[03:11:44] <Turtle> hmh, debug.setHook is not in OC, is it?
L149[03:12:01] <MrWonderful2012> What does it do?
L150[03:12:25] <Turtle> Allows you to hook a function whenever another function is called, returns, or a new line of code is parsed.
L151[03:12:50] <MrWonderful2012> What happens if you use the http Ali to connect to 127.0.0.1?
L152[03:13:02] <MrWonderful2012> Or any other local host address
L153[03:13:08] <MrWonderful2012> Ali
L154[03:13:11] <MrWonderful2012> Api
L155[03:13:12] <Turtle> Depends on how much of a doofus Sangar is
L156[03:13:24] <MrWonderful2012> What do you mean by that?
L157[03:13:24] <Turtle> I suspect he's not very much a doofus and it'll refuse the connection
L158[03:13:41] <MrWonderful2012> That is easy to circumvent though
L159[03:14:03] <Turtle> That's why tcp/http can be disabled in the options
L160[03:14:39] <Izaya> *Nukes location* "Sada?"
L161[03:14:43] <Izaya> "Saada?"
L162[03:14:49] <Izaya> "Eh, he's probably alright."
L163[03:14:53] <MrWonderful2012> I understand http but why tcp?
L164[03:15:14] <Turtle> ... you know what TCP is, right?
L165[03:15:21] <MrWonderful2012> yes
L166[03:15:35] <Turtle> OC's internet card allows the user to make TCP connections
L167[03:15:43] <MrWonderful2012> The only difference between top and udp is that top tells you if the connection succeeded
L168[03:16:10] <MrWonderful2012> Yeah but the tcp connections are to other OC computers not to a real world ip
L169[03:16:33] <Turtle> no they're not?
L170[03:17:04] <Turtle> That would be dumb, you have the network card/modem for ingame communication
L171[03:17:54] <Turtle> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenIRC/irc.lua
L172[03:17:54] <MrWonderful2012> Oh you are talking about the internet txt
L173[03:17:58] <MrWonderful2012> Top
L174[03:18:02] <Turtle> MrWonderful2012 yes.
L175[03:18:03] <MrWonderful2012> Tcp
L176[03:18:08] <SnowDapples> Has anyone ever tried to use OC together with TFC?
L177[03:18:14] <MrWonderful2012> I thought you meant the network tcp
L178[03:18:34] <MrWonderful2012> That one is to other OC computers
L179[03:18:52] <Turtle> lolno, the ingame networks don't resemble tcp a lot
L180[03:19:21] <MrWonderful2012> They call it top
L181[03:19:24] <MrWonderful2012> Tcp
L182[03:19:29] <Turtle> No?
L183[03:19:46] <MrWonderful2012> The standard one is udp
L184[03:19:56] <MrWonderful2012> But you can open a tcp port
L185[03:20:36] <Turtle> No, No you can't. the default modem component does not have any sort of acknowledgement implemented
L186[03:21:07] <Turtle> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:modem
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L188[03:21:49] <MrWonderful2012> I was confused then
L189[03:21:53] <MrWonderful2012> Oh well
L190[03:21:56] <Turtle> You can create your own tcp implementation with it, sure, and some programs probably do
L191[03:22:09] <Turtle> but the modem component is basicly UDP, a firehose of data
L192[03:22:28] <MrWonderful2012> I wonder why the modem doesn't allow tcp
L193[03:22:35] <MrWonderful2012> Seems a bit silly
L194[03:22:43] <Turtle> You can implement acknowledgements yourself
L195[03:22:51] <MrWonderful2012> How do you know if the packet even got sent
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L198[03:23:24] <MrWonderful2012> True but the person I am sending the packet to probably won't implement packet acknowledgement
L199[03:23:37] <Turtle> If it's on a multiplayer server, tell them to
L200[03:23:52] <MrWonderful2012> Ok
L201[03:24:01] <Turtle> if you want acknowledgement, that is
L202[03:24:29] <Turtle> it's not too hard really, you just need something to identify the messages. (Randomized ID if you're lazy, hashes if you've got a data card)
L203[03:25:49] <MrWonderful2012> Or do the crazy ass thing that I thought up involving remote file inclusion and nullbyte injection to start a reverse shell on the other persons computer
L204[03:26:53] <MrWonderful2012> An then embed the packet acknowledgement code into their operating system
L205[03:27:06] <Turtle> heh
L206[03:27:46] <MrWonderful2012> Ever used real hacking methods to hack an in game computer before?
L207[03:29:17] <Turtle> no real point
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L209[03:29:28] <Izaya> I usually just sneak into other people's bases and either enable sshd or add a way to remotely spawn threads
L210[03:29:29] <Turtle> OC is pretty down to the metal, and not a lot of people use load
L211[03:30:59] <MrWonderful2012> I am currently studying the ping and icmp code
L212[03:31:03] <MrWonderful2012> For OC
L213[03:31:40] <MrWonderful2012> To see if I can get it to send me an error message
L214[03:31:41] <Turtle> We should standardize pings and some other protocols for OC, but meh
L215[03:32:09] <Turtle> also, MrWonderful2012 if you wish to inject code into other computers, if they have an unsecured load, look into string.dump
L216[03:32:25] <Turtle> it's useful, but beware, you can fuck up badly with it too, as the string it generates is not human-readable
L217[03:33:00] <Turtle> ... did anyone make a serializer for OC yet that works with functions?
L218[03:33:43] <MrWonderful2012> Oh and a cool thing I found, file path addresses can include Unicode
L219[03:33:53] <MrWonderful2012> And it actually processes the Unicode
L220[03:35:02] <Turtle> yup
L221[03:35:28] <MrWonderful2012> That is how I plan to hack a my friend's OC computer to make
L222[03:36:07] <MrWonderful2012> His computer acknowledge packets
L223[03:36:57] <Turtle> I doubt his computer will randomly 'load' parts of network messages though :p
L224[03:36:57] <MrWonderful2012> You can use that to do a local file inclusion attack
L225[03:37:13] <MrWonderful2012> No
L226[03:39:19] <MrWonderful2012> But if it uses some type of script to allow users to connect to multiple scripts with 1 port then you can get it to run a script on the hosts computer
L227[03:40:18] <MrWonderful2012> I based this off of a trick that I did when I was doing a mission on hackthissite
L228[03:41:05] <SnowDapples> Hackin gin MC is pretty simple.
L229[03:41:12] <SnowDapples> *Hacking in
L230[03:41:22] <SnowDapples> You just go to someone's base and punch their wall in with your fists.
L231[03:41:52] <Turtle> heh
L232[03:42:28] <MrWonderful2012> Basically in a situation where you are allowed to view any file in a specific directory, you can include a null byte in the file you are looking for to make it
L233[03:42:31] <Turtle> hmh, does someone have a string.format to escape quotation marks?
L234[03:42:35] <MrWonderful2012> escape the directory
L235[03:44:24] <MrWonderful2012> For example if the file path of the server was passwords.txt, folder server scripts
L236[03:45:24] <MrWonderful2012> Where server scripts has a few scripts like an irc client that anyone who connects to the server can use by specifying the name of the file as a parameter
L237[03:45:47] <MrWonderful2012> Which is then parsed to make sure that it is actually in the directory
L238[03:46:33] <MrWonderful2012> You can say that you are looking for the file passwords.%00
L239[03:47:00] <MrWonderful2012> Which would make it ignore everything else
L240[03:47:16] <MrWonderful2012> And opening the file
L241[03:47:34] <MrWonderful2012> Reminds me of the good old days of super insecure php
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L244[03:48:24] <Turtle> rip connection
L245[03:48:57] <MrWonderful2012> Oh and I find the top command I was thinking about
L246[03:48:57] <Izaya> rip in peace
L247[03:49:38] <MrWonderful2012> network.tcp.listen(port)
L248[03:50:08] <Izaya> yus
L249[03:50:17] <Izaya> 250GB HDD -> 750GB HDD
L250[03:50:33] <Izaya> now I just need to stick more RAM in there
L251[03:50:35] <MrWonderful2012> And then network.tcp.send
L252[03:51:21] <MrWonderful2012> Can be used to portscan too
L253[03:52:09] <MrWonderful2012> Gtg
L254[03:52:13] <Lizzy> assuming you're using Magik6k's network stack, if the computer you're trying to 'hack' isn't running it you're not going to get much from it
L255[03:54:10] <MrWonderful2012> True
L256[03:54:28] <MrWonderful2012> But I would not be using his network stack
L257[03:54:42] <MrWonderful2012> It wouldn't give me enough information
L258[03:55:50] <MrWonderful2012> O t would rely on his internal handler being used by the target but who doesn't use it?
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L260[03:57:47] <Turtle> Damn it. my escapes failed.
L261[03:58:45] <Turtle> nope. spacing error.
L262[03:58:46] <Turtle> weird.
L263[04:01:12] <Turtle> http://pastebin.com/ftHnQEQB <- this seems to print the escaped string, rather than the original string .-.
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L265[04:12:05] <Turtle> blergh. load does not cleanse escapes properly .-.
L266[04:20:12] <Turtle> Anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
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L272[04:30:53] <Turtle> gaah..
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L280[05:07:39] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/a38w5w9.jpg I've seen everything now.
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L289[07:02:04] <scj643> Is their an easy way to interact with MySQL from OC
L290[07:05:03] <Caitlyn> Other than using the http api to query a script no. Soon, maybe.
L291[07:05:09] <Caitlyn> I'm looking at doing another mod
L292[07:06:54] <scj643> Their is an old CC mod for it
L293[07:07:05] <Caitlyn> Yep
L294[07:07:13] <Caitlyn> Which is why I'm looking at doing an OC version
L295[07:07:21] <scj643> Yay
L296[07:07:40] <Kodos> Love you Caitlyn :3
L297[07:07:45] <Kodos> You know, for doing all the mods everyone wants
L298[07:07:54] <Kodos> And putting up with my request shenanigans for OP and OS
L299[07:07:59] <Caitlyn> :P
L300[07:08:07] <scj643> Where are your mods?
L301[07:08:08] <Caitlyn> I just dred OC 1.6
L302[07:08:15] <Caitlyn> scj643, curse mainly
L303[07:08:27] <scj643> Link to it?
L304[07:08:35] <Kodos> %cf OpenPrinter
L305[07:08:36] <MichiBot> Kodos: http://minecraft.curseforge.com/mc-mods/225127-openprinter/files/2217464 - OpenPrinter-MC1.7.10-OC1.4-0.1.0.80.jar - Minecraft CurseForge: "OpenPrinter-MC1.7.10-OC1.4-0.1.0.80.jar. Details. Filename. OpenPrinter-MC1.
L306[07:08:39] <Kodos> %cf OpenSecurity
L307[07:08:39] <MichiBot> Kodos: https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/opensecurity/files/2251351 - OpenSecurity-1.0-61.jar - Minecraft CurseForge: "Michiyo.Ravencroft: Little cleanup. Michiyo.Ravencroft: Reworked password
L308[07:08:52] <Caitlyn> I was just going to link to my projects page :P
L309[07:08:57] <Kodos> Or that
L310[07:09:06] <scj643> New open printer
L311[07:09:09] <Lizzy> %cf Michiyo
L312[07:09:09] <MichiBot> Lizzy: http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/opensecurity/files/2245912 - OpenSecurity-1.0-43.jar - Minecraft CurseForge: "THIS IS A BREAKING CHANGE! Component names have been changes
L313[07:09:14] <Caitlyn> http://minecraft.curseforge.com/members/MichiyoRavencroft/projects
L314[07:10:35] <scj643> Is open fm fully working
L315[07:10:44] <Caitlyn> but Yeah Espen's mod is WTFPL license so I'mma rip the hell out of it :P
L316[07:10:46] <Caitlyn> Yeah
L317[07:11:12] <Caitlyn> Gotta take daughter out to the bus stop will be back in about 10 minutes
L318[07:11:20] <Kodos> Tell her to have a good day
L319[07:12:38] <scj643> So if open fm is good I will be using that instead of dragons radio mod
L320[07:13:10] <scj643> Will give me a lot more controll
L321[07:14:22] <Caitlyn> \o/ tablet irc :p
L322[07:16:15] <Kodos> Anyone use Roccat PowerGrid?
L323[07:16:18] <scj643> I'm on an iPad
L324[07:16:29] <scj643> Link me to it Kodos
L325[07:16:35] <Caitlyn> scj643 i'm not :p
L326[07:16:37] <Kodos> %g Roccat PowerGrid
L327[07:16:38] <MichiBot> Kodos: http://www.roccat.org/en-US/Products/Gaming-Software/Power-Grid/Home/ - ROCCAT® – Set the Rules \ Roccat.org » Power-Grid » Home: "ROCCAT™ Power-Grid™ is an advanced and fully-customizable remote control
L328[07:17:18] * Caitlyn pet MichiBot
L329[07:17:19] <Kathleen> Hmmm.... So here I am, debugging pseudo-ARM machine code for a pseudo usable ARM Emulator for a mod for a game that I don't even play anymore really. :D
L330[07:17:26] <Caitlyn> Grr...
L331[07:17:30] * Caitlyn pets MichiBot
L332[07:17:30] * MichiBot Puurs
L333[07:17:57] * scj643 pets Lizzy
L334[07:18:07] * Lizzy purrs?
L335[07:18:11] <scj643> Lol
L336[07:18:50] <scj643> Autocorrect wants to change your name from Lizzy to Kizzy
L337[07:18:57] <Lizzy> lol
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L339[07:21:17] <scj643> Roccat power grid seems outdated
L340[07:22:10] <Lizzy> #lua 0xFF
L341[07:22:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 255
L342[07:22:14] <Lizzy> #lua 0xF
L343[07:22:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 15
L344[07:24:00] <Caitlyn> I wonder what the license stuff for the mysql jdbc stuff is...
L345[07:24:31] <Kathleen> Caitlyn: Official MySQL connector should be GPL
L346[07:24:40] <Caitlyn> Cause I'd like to shade it in if possible
L347[07:30:15] <dangranos> .m
L348[07:31:17] <Turtle> o/
L349[07:35:34] <Turtle> Can someone check if I´m using load wrong here? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/SentientTurtle/887b83eafaebe0fd6b6a/raw/b14a2199646a6346f9ff5b3e270537152b14ce70/2015-10-15_14-34-46.txt It should escape the square brackets as you´d do when manually writing a script
L350[07:35:41] <Turtle> But for some reason load is not removing the escapes.
L351[07:36:05] <Caitlyn> yay lua patterns ¬_¬
L352[07:36:18] <Caitlyn> The only thing I've found I hate more than normal regex.
L353[07:36:37] <Kodos> Regex didn't look hard other than trying to remember it all
L354[07:37:21] <Caitlyn> Dyslexia and a memory of swiss cheese makes it hard to remember.
L355[07:37:29] <Turtle> Praise google.
L356[07:37:32] <Kodos> Fair enough
L357[07:38:17] * Lizzy moms on Caitlyn's brain
L358[07:38:31] <Caitlyn> that tickles...
L359[07:38:34] <Turtle> But uh, regarding that code, without escaping it´ll error. with escapes it´ll leave the escapes in the code
L360[07:38:35] <Turtle> .-.
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L362[07:50:23] <Caitlyn> Anyone have experience with shading / repacking dependencies?
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L368[08:09:12] <Caitlyn> Oh man, I forgot how bad modding in 1.4.7 was
L369[08:10:31] <SnowDapples> :D
L370[08:15:45] <Caitlyn> K, deobfuscated 1.4.7's ccDB
L371[08:16:58] <Caitlyn> of course the model is rendered via code.
L372[08:17:10] <Caitlyn> don't think 1.7 had the obj loader anyway
L373[08:17:12] <Caitlyn> err
L374[08:17:13] <Caitlyn> 1.4.7*
L375[08:17:50] <Kodos> Aren't servers rendered via code, too?
L376[08:18:24] <Caitlyn> in 1.7 yeah.. in 1.8 I'm sure it's json
L377[08:18:40] <Caitlyn> unless Sangar figured out a way around that
L378[08:19:01] <SnowDapples> ??¿
L379[08:19:14] <Caitlyn> ‽
L380[08:19:34] <Caitlyn> Hmm.. I seem to have somehow hidden the menu bar on Hexchat.
L381[08:19:35] <Caitlyn> ---
L382[08:19:37] <Caitlyn> -_-*
L383[08:19:49] <Lizzy> Caitlyn, F9
L384[08:20:04] <Caitlyn> Right, thanks
L385[08:20:27] <Caitlyn> Ahh that's why the bottom line of text looked different...
L386[08:20:40] <Caitlyn> with the menu bar hidden, the last line of text renders just above the bottom frame
L387[08:20:47] <Caitlyn> with it shown it's about 15 px up
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L393[08:46:50] <Caitlyn> Good news, It seems I can shade/repack the mysql jdbc as long as I GPL my code
L394[08:51:34] <Skye|School> Ugh.
L395[08:53:51] <Kodos> Wheee
L396[08:55:07] <Caitlyn> Youngest is up, gotta do my parenting thing first :P
L397[08:55:17] <Kodos> Okay, all caught up with TV this week thus far
L398[08:55:20] <Kodos> Time to hit the store and get tea
L399[08:55:22] <Kodos> back soon <3
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L404[09:17:53] <S3> Whee it is such a nice day out
L405[09:18:37] <S3> 8 celsius and quite windy
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L407[09:19:17] <Kodos> Christmas came early for me =D
L408[09:19:32] <Kodos> Tom's (Our local supermarket) had pumpkin pie by the slice for 1.99
L409[09:19:34] <Kodos> I got 2
L410[09:19:51] <Kodos> Also managed to snag the last gallon of Tradewinds sweet
L411[09:19:58] <S3> I love days like this
L412[09:20:47] <Caitlyn> Yesterday sucked for me... I bought the last bottle of Raspberry tea my local walmart will be ordering
L413[09:20:51] <S3> You buy pie?
L414[09:20:56] <S3> Is it any good?
L415[09:21:04] <Caitlyn> and the other grocery store here in town has never carried it.
L416[09:21:49] <S3> I avoid Walmart. It doesn't belong here. When Walmart came in town all our hobby stores and local grocery except the chains closed down
L417[09:22:14] * Caitlyn pats S3's head
L418[09:22:34] <Caitlyn> Good for you. but when I spend atleast $50 more for the same damn groceries, and I'm on a fixed income for food, I do what I have to.
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L420[09:23:27] <S3> Well the big problem is that the local stores carry stuff Walmart doesnt.
L421[09:23:32] <Caitlyn> Not here.
L422[09:24:37] <Kodos> What I like about Wal-Mart is Savings Catcher
L423[09:25:05] <S3> You won't find pork from one of the local farms at Walmart. Gotta go there or head to a farmers market now, and because of this mess now it's more expensive
L424[09:27:15] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L425[09:27:24] <Kodos> All I know is I've got almost 9 bucks on an eGift card
L426[09:27:38] <S3> The hannaford here fortunately does resell fish and vegetables that are local around here at least
L427[09:27:39] <Turtle> o/
L428[09:28:46] <S3> Hey turtle
L429[09:29:14] <S3> I thought you loved in #computercraft :P
L430[09:29:18] <S3> Lived*
L431[09:31:31] <S3> Kodos: I'm kind of weird. I refuse to but something just because it is on sale. If I intended to buy it then that's cool but if I see a need full of meat I'm going to choose the best meat suitable for what I want, not the one that happens to be on sale
L432[09:31:51] <S3> Bed full of meat*
L433[09:32:27] <Kodos> I only buy what I need as well, however with Walmart, I get automatic price matching with Savings Catcher
L434[09:32:51] <S3> My groceries average about 60 to 100 a week in USD. It's pretty consistent and I'm comfortable paying that
L435[09:32:57] <Kodos> Basically I scan the QR code on my receipt, it checks local competitors, and if it finds a lower price at time of purchase, I get refunded the difference to a gift card
L436[09:33:25] <S3> Lolwut
L437[09:33:42] <Kodos> Savings Catcher
L438[09:33:43] <Kodos> Google it
L439[09:33:44] <S3> Who finds this
L440[09:33:46] <S3> Funds
L441[09:33:51] <Kodos> Walmart
L442[09:33:58] <Kodos> It's through their mobile app
L443[09:34:23] <S3> The gift card is a Walmart / sams gift card eh?
L444[09:34:30] <Kodos> Yup, and usable online
L445[09:35:14] <S3> Yeah I wouldn't do it. I'm sure you have your reasons, but to me that's just a reason for Walmart to make more money of of you by making you come more.
L446[09:35:25] <S3> I don't but into stuff like that
L447[09:35:27] <S3> Buy*
L448[09:35:31] <Kodos> Meh, fair enough. We go anyway because it's the cheapest place in our area
L449[09:35:45] <Kodos> I support two people on 720 a month plus 294 in food stamps
L450[09:35:58] <Kodos> I don't exactly get a choice in where we shop when budgets are concerned
L451[09:36:14] <Caitlyn> I support 5 on 650 it's tight
L452[09:36:34] <S3> When I lived alone I got away with like 30 out 40 a week
L453[09:36:36] <S3> Or*
L454[09:37:15] <Kodos> Keep in mind, when I was single, I lived on the 720 alone, no food stamps. When I got married, my wife had (and still has) no income, and all we got was the food stamps
L455[09:37:32] <Kodos> Fought for 5 years to get her on disability, denied every time
L456[09:38:15] <S3> I was offered disability for my memory issues but I denied it myself
L457[09:39:05] <Kodos> Lucky you
L458[09:39:14] <Kodos> My wife suffers from debilitating anxiety and migraines
L459[09:39:19] <S3> I understand there are people who really need it but I told my doctor that I can take care of myself and I want found to take somebody else's money
L460[09:39:40] <S3> Don't want*
L461[09:40:06] <S3> I had a hermitage on my brain when I was in high school
L462[09:40:15] <S3> Hemmorhage*
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L466[09:46:40] <S3> Kodos: yep it sucks because look at all the asshats that are on social security right now so they can sit on their families watch TV and work on their heart attacks
L467[09:46:57] <S3> The ones who don't deserve it
L468[09:47:09] <Kodos> Or the local favorite here, the ones who get their checks, and use it to fund drug dealing
L469[09:47:15] <S3> Big problem here in US
L470[09:47:27] <S3> Yep
L471[09:47:38] <S3> Lot of people I know sell their food stamps
L472[09:47:42] <S3> It's disgusting
L473[09:47:47] <Turtle> ... why
L474[09:47:59] <S3> Drugs probably
L475[09:48:00] <Turtle> ... the answer is complete lack of economic sense isn´t it.
L476[09:48:13] <Kodos> Well, they buy drugs, so yes?
L477[09:48:20] <S3> And these people are perfectly capable of managing
L478[09:48:26] <Kodos> Frankly, I never understood the point, even pot. I'd rather spend money on food or games
L479[09:48:42] <S3> Heh
L480[09:49:04] <Turtle> My point was though, that they´d be selling the stamps at less than they´re worth (Otherwise people wouldn´t buy them), so they´d be better off using them for food and using the money they now didn´t spend on food for drugs.
L481[09:49:40] <Kodos> Going rate here is 50 cents on the dollar
L482[09:50:25] <Turtle> I don´t live in the US, are they that generous with food stamps that you can afford that rate and not starve?
L483[09:50:51] <scj643> Compiling ZNC and getting Python working isn't working
L484[09:51:12] <scj643> I can't get the devel package since it wants to downgrade my Python packages
L485[09:53:31] <scj643> Caitlyn: can open fm get CC support?
L486[09:53:47] <Caitlyn> No, because I hate how CC does peripherals now.
L487[09:54:25] <Caitlyn> I was going to try... I got about 1/3 the way through implementing the IPeripheralProvider and wanted to blow my brains out.
L488[09:55:32] <Kodos> scj643, take my word for it. CC is terrible, you should do yourself a favor, uninstall it, and never look back
L489[09:56:33] <Caitlyn> I cut my teeth doing CC addons back in the 1.6 days it wasn't that bad
L490[09:56:39] <Caitlyn> but fuck that shit now
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L494[10:00:56] <Caitlyn> I so want to park those annoying ass names so I don't have to fucking see them here
L495[10:01:23] <Kodos> Why don't you?
L496[10:01:27] <Kodos> Isn't channel rules PG
L497[10:02:34] <Caitlyn> Cause it's frowned upon by the IRCOps... though nothing can really be done about it since he doesn't have them registered...
L498[10:03:33] <Turtle> Can´t you do a ban on just the name?
L499[10:06:46] <Caitlyn> yay color coded my reactor control networks
L500[10:06:50] <Caitlyn> and yes, I could, but not as fun.
L501[10:06:54] <Caitlyn> :P
L502[10:08:38] <Turtle> Wait. Lua deals with nested square brackets fine?
L503[10:08:58] <Turtle> UNESCAPED STRINGS BOOYAH.
L504[10:09:06] * dangranos shimpers
L505[10:09:07] <dangranos> *w
L506[10:09:17] <dangranos> damn it
L507[10:09:29] <Caitlyn> damn it dangranos don't shimper on the carpet!
L508[10:10:14] <Turtle> dangranos, writing a serialization api, spent like 2h trying to figure out why lua hated me escaping square brackets in strings, turns out there is no need :p
L509[10:10:15] <dangranos> i have to make a quiz..
L510[10:10:56] <dangranos> and most of what i get in google on "online quiz creator" is fucking ads...
L511[10:11:13] * dangranos goes back to messing with google forms
L512[10:13:10] <Turtle> Cfuntion and userdata are irrelevent in OC, right?
L513[10:16:56] <Caitlyn> there, actually finished color coding my reactor networks
L514[10:17:09] <Caitlyn> each subnet has a color... wish Servers could be dyed.
L515[10:17:13] <Turtle> :p
L516[10:21:40] <Lizzy> Home time
L517[10:22:07] <Kodos> So Caitlyn, now that you have overlays and such learned
L518[10:22:16] <Kodos> Actually nevermind
L519[10:22:33] <Caitlyn> The error indicator for OC?
L520[10:22:39] <Caitlyn> I would, except, Scala. :P
L521[10:22:40] <Kodos> No, though that's a good idea
L522[10:22:43] <Kodos> Indeed
L523[10:23:17] <Kodos> I was gonna say a block that's basically a sign (4 lines, displays on the front) but computer controller, But it's easier to just stick a sign on the front of an adapter
L524[10:23:54] <Caitlyn> :P
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L526[10:24:40] <Inari> but signs are ugly
L527[10:25:21] <Kodos> Indeed
L528[10:25:33] <Kodos> And something where you could control the color of the text would be neat
L529[10:26:30] <Turtle> hmh, does anyone have a random table I can test my serializer on? Preferably something absurdly huge :p
L530[10:26:53] <Caitlyn> I guess a small read only display would be handy in OpenSecurity...
L531[10:26:54] <Kodos> https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=nS99KFbD
L532[10:27:02] <Turtle> Thankyou
L533[10:27:02] <Caitlyn> Kodos, OS issue that :P
L534[10:27:09] <Kodos> Okey
L535[10:27:19] <Kodos> Let me finish my pie
L536[10:27:20] <Kodos> last piece
L537[10:28:26] <Turtle> ... now to convert it to lua first. xD
L538[10:28:28] <Caitlyn> lol k :P
L539[10:35:08] <Turtle> ... not sure what I expected, but serializing _G causes an out of memory.
L540[10:35:56] <Kathleen> Turtle: Can you upload the lua version pls? :P
L541[10:36:15] <Turtle> Kathleen, not done yet, that thing is huge, I think I need a script to convert it.
L542[10:38:11] * Lizzy sighs
L543[10:38:18] * Lizzy hugs Kathleen
L544[10:38:58] <Lizzy> Urghh, fucking obnoxious people on the train
L545[10:39:20] * Kathleen cuddles Lizzy
L546[10:39:33] <Kodos> Caitlyn, going to be a bit, going to write this up in Markdown in Atom, then copypasta it over once I get it nice and cleaned up
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L549[10:44:34] <Kathleen> Turtle: http://pastebin.com/xaf1H5QX should be valid lua
L550[10:44:41] <Turtle> yep
L551[10:44:43] <Turtle> should be
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L554[10:48:01] <Turtle> too long without yielding, rip.
L555[10:51:18] <Lizzy> and home
L556[10:52:45] <Kodos> Okay, it's terrible, but I did it
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L558[10:54:34] <dangranos> lesson learned
L559[10:54:49] <dangranos> dont fucking try to make anything other than one-page simple survey using google forms
L560[10:55:23] <dangranos> even page-per-question is a waaay to fucking hard
L561[10:55:28] <dangranos> all that drag-and-drop hell
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L563[10:56:29] <Turtle> Serializing this takes for ever, does OpenOS wait before resuming a coroutine?
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L565[10:56:42] <Turtle> damn it. it waits for an event
L566[10:56:46] <Kodos> No idea, I'm trying to recreate this in OpenGlasses http://i.imgur.com/YepwBcx.jpg
L567[10:57:04] <Kathleen> septi25: eyyoo mate :D
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L569[10:59:15] <Kodos> http://i.imgur.com/uPUADqs.png
L570[11:00:45] <dangranos> http://imgur.com/gallery/2rSvuCU
L571[11:03:28] <Turtle> hmh, how rediculous would it be to implement a lua decompiler in lua?
L572[11:03:35] <Kodos> Simpsons did it
L573[11:03:36] <Kodos> I mean
L574[11:03:38] <Kodos> Someone's already done it
L575[11:03:46] <Kodos> I think
L576[11:03:49] <Kodos> Lua something in Lua
L577[11:03:55] <Kodos> Maybe it was a Lua VM in Lua
L578[11:04:18] <Turtle> yeah, but I specicially have a use for a decompiler :p
L579[11:05:04] <ConcernedHobbit> Kodos, I don't get a choice in where you shop neither but I still get pinged : ^)
L580[11:05:13] <Kodos> wat
L581[11:05:16] <Kodos> When did I ping you
L582[11:05:48] <ConcernedHobbit> <Kodos> I don't exactly get a choice in where we shop when budgets are concerned
L583[11:05:54] <Kodos> Oh lol
L584[11:05:59] <ConcernedHobbit> Yeah ik
L585[11:06:21] <Kodos> Okay, movie time until SE's update drops
L586[11:06:32] * Caitlyn crosses her fingers for planets
L587[11:06:37] <ConcernedHobbit> SE?
L588[11:06:38] <Caitlyn> I've played with them they're fun as hell
L589[11:06:39] <Kodos> I'm thinking that's next week
L590[11:06:41] <Caitlyn> Space Engineers
L591[11:06:41] <ConcernedHobbit> Oh, Space Engineers
L592[11:06:43] <Turtle> Space Engineers
L593[11:06:44] <Turtle> :p
L594[11:06:48] <Kodos> Since next week is 2 yr anniversary
L595[11:06:49] <ConcernedHobbit> Wait, planets?
L596[11:06:52] <ConcernedHobbit> I need to start playing it again
L597[11:06:55] <Turtle> Still waiting for new netcode, .-.
L598[11:06:57] <ConcernedHobbit> But it's not that fun alone
L599[11:06:59] <Caitlyn> Yeah they've been working on Planets for a while
L600[11:07:02] <Kodos> I want the new hydrogen changes
L601[11:07:06] <Kodos> More than I want planets
L602[11:07:14] <Caitlyn> They're playable if you compile from source and enable them
L603[11:07:44] <ConcernedHobbit> Hydrogen?!
L604[11:07:50] <ConcernedHobbit> I reaaaaaaaaaaally need to start playing it again
L605[11:12:56] <Kodos> Issue's up
L606[11:13:11] <Caitlyn> I already labeled it :P
L607[11:13:17] <Kodos> Just saw that =P
L608[11:15:20] <Lizzy> Caitlyn, last time i played with a compiled planets release (about a month ago) my game crashed as soon as my ship started getting pulled by the planet's gravity
L609[11:15:54] <Caitlyn> I didn't crash, but gravity was a bit wonky
L610[11:15:58] <Kodos> Oh neat, FMA IS on netflix
L611[11:16:02] <Kodos> Time to watch that
L612[11:16:05] <Caitlyn> and you could hover a ship with a single small thruster as long as you didn't move
L613[11:16:35] <Lizzy> granted i was playing with extra mods on cause i wanted to see how well my mining ship coped under gravity
L614[11:17:07] <Lizzy> also i wonder how artificial mass blocks will be affected by normal gravity
L615[11:17:51] <Kodos> Oh thank goodness, there's english audio
L616[11:17:56] <Caitlyn> Didn't even think to test them
L617[11:19:57] <Kodos> Jesus this just jumps right into being dark, doens't it
L618[11:20:58] <Lizzy> Kodos, eh?
L619[11:21:02] <Caitlyn> lol.. yeah
L620[11:21:04] <Kodos> Lizzy, watching FMA
L621[11:21:12] <Kodos> From the beginning
L622[11:21:45] <Turtle> 2011 version?
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L624[11:22:09] <Kodos> Epi I'm watching is called Those who Challenge the Sun
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L626[11:22:48] <Caitlyn> So, the 2003 FMA, not FMA:B
L627[11:22:56] <Turtle> yep
L628[11:23:01] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L629[11:23:12] <Caitlyn> FMA Brotherhood was awesome..
L630[11:23:18] <Kodos> Asked my wife about FMA, this is what she showed me
L631[11:23:43] <Turtle> There´s a 2011 remake that stays closer to the original material, and has slightly better animation.
L632[11:23:47] <Caitlyn> FMA:B Followed the manga closer..
L633[11:23:50] <Caitlyn> damn it Turtle :P
L634[11:23:52] <Turtle> :p
L635[11:24:09] <Turtle> I mean the 2003 version ran out of manga to adapt, so they just made stuff up :p
L636[11:24:22] <Caitlyn> lol yeah
L637[11:24:57] <Caitlyn> And now I have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXQLrkW33f0 stuck in my head.
L638[11:24:57] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: Full Metal Alchemist OST 1 - Brothers | length: 4m 6s | Likes: 17232 Dislikes: 190 Views: 2564549 | by videfabul1
L639[11:25:35] <Caitlyn> It's great, a Russian song, on a Japanese anime, with German overtones.
L640[11:29:47] <Nadeko> Caitlyn: but that is like the best song of the show doe .-.
L641[11:31:10] <Caitlyn> Yeah but now I'm crying..
L642[11:31:21] <Nadeko> if i wasnt eating all the chillinuts i could find, i would play it on my ocarina :p
L643[11:32:17] <Caitlyn> Also, https://youtu.be/ZSW3skkVKEE?t=216
L644[11:32:28] <Caitlyn> Thanks MichiBot.
L645[11:32:28] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: You're welcome!
L646[11:32:30] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬
L647[11:32:38] <Nadeko> MichiBot: you are so useful :D
L648[11:32:52] <Caitlyn> It's a fail on my part... my match is too strict.
L649[11:32:58] <Nadeko> :p
L650[11:33:34] <Nadeko> robots can "sneaky" insert right?
L651[11:33:57] <Caitlyn> I think so, don't hold me to it.
L652[11:34:31] * Lizzy holds Caitlyn to "it"
L653[11:34:32] <Kodos> Ho shit, Ello is streaming Overwatch
L654[11:35:06] <Nadeko> where is that song in the anime anyway?
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L656[11:37:02] <Caitlyn> Nadeko, it's been ages since I watched the original I don't remember.
L657[11:37:19] <Caitlyn> I have both
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L659[11:39:03] * Lizzy prods vifino's body to see if he is awake
L660[11:39:59] * Lizzy picks vifino up and puts him to bed then returns to the lobby and proceeds to divehug Kathleen
L661[11:40:31] * Lizzy waits for the SE update to drop
L662[11:41:48] <Caitlyn> Oh hey... Tabs for Brothers...
L663[11:41:58] <Caitlyn> And I have no guitar anymore \o/
L664[11:42:29] <Lizzy> speaking of guitar, i might play my bass
L665[11:42:55] <Turtle> Nope. It´s still not unfunny to imagine the fish everytime someone refers to the instrument
L666[11:43:21] * Lizzy slaps Turtle with a sea bass
L667[11:43:43] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬ And now I wanna watch Outlaw Star, and Cowboy Bebop..
L668[11:44:03] <Caitlyn> And code...
L669[11:44:07] <Caitlyn> I need MOAR MONITORS
L670[11:44:30] <Caitlyn> I DO have a 4th... I just need somewhere to put it
L671[11:45:01] <scj643> Compiling ZNC
L672[11:45:55] <scj643> Damn forgot my VPS doesn't have shit for ram
L673[11:46:08] <scj643> 512 MB isn't enough to compile
L674[11:46:12] <Caitlyn> Erm...
L675[11:46:21] <Caitlyn> I've compiled ZNC on 512 MB VPSes a number of times.
L676[11:46:37] <Caitlyn> Hell, I compiled it on a 256 MB free vps, with MySQL and apache running.
L677[11:47:06] <Caitlyn> Swap is your friend on small RAM machines.
L678[11:47:16] <scj643> I don't have much swap
L679[11:49:51] <Turtle> Unless you absolutely need the disk space, it´s a VM, increase the swap.
L680[11:50:23] <Caitlyn> ^
L681[11:50:31] <Caitlyn> Hell even another 512 helps..
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L683[11:51:43] <Turtle> grr. no lua compilers written in lua aparently.
L684[11:51:48] <Inari> lol
L685[11:52:01] <Turtle> Now I´d have to enable bytecode loading to do swap in OC D:
L686[11:52:33] <Turtle> What´s the main security issue that arises from enabling it?
L687[11:52:53] <Kodos> Well, in single player, nothing really
L688[11:53:11] <Kodos> But in a multiplayer environment, it's hazardous since if someone knows what they're doing, they could fuck your shit up
L689[11:53:24] <Turtle> define, ´fuck your shit up´?
L690[11:53:37] <Turtle> injecting code into other computers?
L691[11:54:57] <Turtle> (I only dabbled a bit with bytecode loading in the past, and that was mostly for obfuscation reasons)
L692[11:57:21] <Inari> "To show just how important this responsibility is, I've written up a pure Lua module for the default Lua 5.2 (-work4) interpreter which can read and write arbitrary memory locations. The only thing standing between this and a generic arbitrary-code-execution exploit is DEP (hardware/OS level memory page protection preventing where code can be executed from)."
L693[11:58:13] <Turtle> oh dear
L694[11:58:24] <Kodos> Pretty much
L695[11:59:13] <scj643> Threw 512 MB of swap at my VPS
L696[11:59:33] <scj643> Will be good when I can get off IRC cloud
L697[11:59:52] <scj643> Right now it's on the Python bindings
L698[12:00:09] <scj643> Going to pack it using checkinstall
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L700[12:07:05] <Maxzilla> Hello?
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L702[12:07:25] <Turtle> Patience game weak?
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L704[12:07:59] <Turtle> o/
L705[12:08:08] <Maxzilla> :D
L706[12:08:34] <Maxzilla> Just to be clear, this is the Open Computers channel right?
L707[12:08:40] <Turtle> yep
L708[12:09:13] <Maxzilla> Is there a keyboard shortcut or something to terminate a running program? Like, without having to turn off the computer?
L709[12:10:04] <scj643> Like Ctrl+c in any modern OS
L710[12:10:42] <Maxzilla> I'm assuming OpenOS isn't a modern one since that doesn't work. <;D
L711[12:10:56] <Caitlyn> try ctrl-alt-c
L712[12:11:13] <Caitlyn> Though, if a program is blocking events, that won't work
L713[12:11:23] <scj643> Apparently for python3-dev I had to downgrade then upgrade
L714[12:12:21] <Maxzilla> It's basically a 'while true' loop kind of progam... I have yet to take a look at events and stuff. ^-^"
L715[12:12:41] <Kodos> Maxzilla, a simple os.sleep(0) anywhere in the loop will suffice
L716[12:12:47] <Caitlyn> ^
L717[12:12:47] <scj643> ZNC in lua is it possible
L718[12:13:01] <Maxzilla> Ah? Let me try. :P
L719[12:13:05] <scj643> An IRC bouncer
L720[12:13:25] <Kodos> scj643, you -might- be able to use the IRC program to connect to an actual bouncer
L721[12:13:46] <scj643> Emphasis on might
L722[12:15:32] <Sangar> o/
L723[12:15:46] <scj643> Hi sangar
L724[12:16:19] <Maxzilla> Alright, thanks! The sleep-thing helps! :D
L725[12:17:19] <Kodos> Yerp =)
L726[12:22:25] <gamax92> Turtle: ther are plenty of lua compilers in lua
L727[12:22:43] <gamax92> Turtle: and by that I mean yueliang
L728[12:25:16] <Turtle> DEcompilers
L729[12:25:21] <Turtle> as in, Bytecode -> Sauce
L730[12:27:19] * gamax92 pokes ds84182
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L732[12:34:57] <gamax92> https://bgr.com/2015/10/15/adobe-flash-player-security-vulnerability-warning/
L733[12:40:46] <Maxzilla> Flash is ded
L734[12:43:35] <gamax92> yes, which is why Flash is still very widely used
L735[12:43:38] <gamax92> because it's dead
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L737[13:00:44] <Maxzilla> Why do I keep getting "unsupported side" error?
L738[13:00:55] <Maxzilla> Is 1 not a side anymore?
L739[13:01:08] <Maxzilla> *5
L740[13:01:31] <Maxzilla> I'm trying to have my robot suck items from the chest to the left of it.
L741[13:02:23] <Caitlyn> sides.left is 5 so yes.. it's a side
L742[13:02:45] <Maxzilla> 1 works, but the rest of 'em don't. :c
L743[13:03:04] <Caitlyn> I don't have a robot handy, and I'm walking out the door
L744[13:03:09] <gamax92> Why do people think bloom and vignette shaders "enhance" stuff?
L745[13:06:13] <Maxzilla> I'll just use suck() instead.
L746[13:06:26] <Maxzilla> I feel the same way, gamax92 xD
L747[13:07:01] <gamax92> Sangar: robots only interact with up, down, and forward, right?
L748[13:07:13] <Maxzilla> Whenever I see people show off how cool those shader mods for MineCraft, I always find them just 'too' much.
L749[13:07:22] <Sangar> gamax92, yes
L750[13:07:27] <gamax92> that would explain why left and right give unsupported side
L751[13:07:44] <scj643> Have to get all my self signed cents into ZNC
L752[13:07:45] * vifino stands uo and grabs Lizzy, then falls asleep again
L753[13:07:47] <scj643> Certs
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L755[13:08:19] <TotallyNotKatie> %sed disable
L756[13:09:44] <scj643> Getting off IRC cloud will be nice
L757[13:10:45] <gamax92> Maxzilla: motion blur, bloom, vignette, sun flare, depth of field, etc etc
L758[13:13:01] <gamax92> dof really doesn't work because my eyes can look around on the screen, but the game doesn't know that and so I only get partial detail
L759[13:17:36] <Maxzilla> Oh, dang. I'm using a Tier 1 screen, can't scroll up in the chat. xD
L760[13:18:38] <Maxzilla> BRB
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L763[13:23:52] <Maxzilla> Hello. :P
L764[13:23:58] <Maxzilla> Did anyone say anything to me?
L765[13:24:11] <Lizzy> nope
L766[13:24:18] <Maxzilla> Oh, alright.
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L769[13:25:41] <Turtle> Keen pls.
L770[13:27:32] * vifino cuddles Lizzy
L771[13:27:50] * Lizzy cuddles vifino
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L774[13:35:08] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L775[13:39:54] <nxsupert> o/
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L777[13:42:02] <Noob> gamax92: who needs flash anyway? youtube is html5, so are most of other sites
L778[13:51:28] <Maxzilla> HomeStar Runner is in crisis
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L785[14:09:43] <Noob> Hm I've just come up with a feature idea upgrade for robots/drones. What if there would be Combat Upgrade that would include motion sensor and "aimAt()" function, giving robots and drones ability to aim and attack, but in exchange those robots would "take damage". That wouldn't be direct damage, but instead it would kill remaining internal energy, so it wont be entirely OP feature (aka, a player could "kill" it by dealing enough dam
L786[14:09:43] <Noob> it down)
L787[14:10:57] <Noob> And this upgrade would be available for something like Tier 2 and above lol
L788[14:17:21] <Turtle> http://i.imgur.com/xnLHrlY.png And now I pray that textures didn´t get overhauled too much in the last 3 years .-.
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L790[14:23:22] <Turtle> (The answer is, yep, shit changed.)
L791[14:27:00] <gamax92> Turtle: yes, yes it has
L792[14:27:06] <gamax92> no more sprite sheets
L793[14:27:13] <Turtle> Thank fuck. xD
L794[14:27:43] <Turtle> Hopefully GUIs are no longer the weird mess they were .-.
L795[14:32:36] <Vexatos> they are
L796[14:39:26] <Turtle> welp. rip.
L797[14:42:38] <gamax92> yeah GUI's are still funky
L798[14:43:13] <gamax92> there are a few gui libraries though, never used any and that adds a dependency
L799[14:43:17] <scj643> Finally getting ZNC set up
L800[14:43:36] <Lizzy> Why not Zoidberg?
L801[14:44:10] <scj643> I first heard of ZNC
L802[14:44:28] <scj643> also more compatibility with what I need
L803[14:44:42] <scj643> I can get pushbullet notifications
L804[14:44:57] * Lizzy thinks scj643 doesn't know what she was referring to
L805[14:45:25] <scj643> Making a dhparam key for my ZNC cert
L806[14:46:28] <scj643> What are you talking about Lizzy
L807[14:47:32] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6JHaBVySTA
L808[14:47:33] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Zoidberg Woop Woop Woop! | length: 10s | Likes: 937 Dislikes: 23 Views: 297214 | by Best Viral Videos
L809[14:47:54] <scj643> Oh futurerama
L810[14:48:15] <scj643> Is Diffie Hellman useful?
L811[14:48:31] <Turtle> (V) (;,,;) (V)
L812[14:50:01] * vifino returns from grabbing a drink and hands a chill pepsi to Lizzy
L813[14:50:25] <SkySom> Coke > Pepsi
L814[14:50:30] * Lizzy makes Zoidberg noises and drinks
L815[14:50:42] * Lizzy prefers Pepsi
L816[14:51:42] <scj643> Generating a DH key takes a while
L817[14:51:48] <scj643> 4098 bit key
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L819[14:52:13] <scj643> I don't dare generate keys on my server
L820[14:53:03] <scj643> Ok when OpenSSL says it will take a long time how long does it mean
L821[14:53:13] <vifino> SkySom: I drink coke, Lizzy likes Pepsi more, so I comply.
L822[14:53:24] <SkySom> Ah
L823[14:53:46] <scj643> I drink neither don't like caffeine
L824[14:53:59] <vifino> scj643: Nobody asked you. :|
L825[14:54:11] <scj643> Can OpenSSL use more than one core
L826[14:54:25] <vifino> ... wat?
L827[14:54:33] <scj643> And does it benefit from 64 bit
L828[14:54:44] * vifino sighs
L829[14:54:46] <scj643> By OpenSSL I mean the command
L830[14:55:17] <Turtle> Yep. I screwed up textures. Back to google-fu
L831[14:55:36] <vifino> scj643: Yes, stop asking stupid things.
L832[14:55:51] <scj643> Not stupid just ignorant
L833[14:55:59] <vifino> Same thing to me.
L834[14:57:27] <Skye|School> #p
L835[14:57:28] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.6418828430000001 Seconds passed.
L836[14:59:32] <scj643> Going to be compiling open SSL
L837[14:59:48] <Turtle> ... Praise be upon the MIT license, allowing texture asset modification and the same look/feel of OC (Read: My programmer art is terribad.)
L838[15:00:04] <gamax92> my programmer art is /dev/urandom
L839[15:00:10] <scj643> Lol
L840[15:00:55] <Turtle> imgur wtf. y u invalidate my pushx token
L841[15:01:31] <Turtle> Have a dropbox link:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/h97vmoyqe9nfv69/2015-10-15_22-01-13.png?dl=0
L842[15:01:46] <gamax92> why do you need some wat token?
L843[15:02:06] <Turtle> PushX -> Shapshot tool -> Has to upload somewhere, I had my imgur account linked
L844[15:02:15] <gamax92> ahh
L845[15:02:32] * gamax92 just uses the linux imgur-screenshot tool
L846[15:02:49] <Turtle> Still on windows.
L847[15:02:53] <vifino> woo
L848[15:02:58] <gamax92> sucks to be you
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L850[15:03:09] <vifino> My screws and power distributor arrived.
L851[15:03:23] <Turtle> gamax92, eh, shit just randomly works.
L852[15:04:09] <vifino> I'm opening this package with a fork.
L853[15:04:34] <Turtle> (¨Old program no longer works in legacy mode on the newest version of windows? Install office.¨)
L854[15:04:50] <vifino> Wow, that thing is solid aluminium.
L855[15:04:54] <vifino> Excellent.
L856[15:07:26] <Turtle> ... Damn it. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zkfcmlb12w1x5lp/2015-10-15_22-07-15.png?dl=0
L857[15:07:47] <Turtle> Aaand fixed.
L858[15:08:32] <gamax92> en_us.lang files
L859[15:08:57] <Turtle> yep. I goofed up and forgot to add .name after the unlocalized name
L860[15:11:52] <scj643> Power line adapter .....
L861[15:12:21] <Turtle> scj643, little gimmicky block to send network messages over TE fluxducts
L862[15:18:32] <scj643> Oh ok
L863[15:19:02] <Turtle> They´re more commonly known under the name ´HomePlug´
L864[15:19:25] <Turtle> (But technically those are a specific specification set of the powerline communications stuff)
L865[15:20:16] <Turtle> I should probably rename them as people keep asking, ohwell
L866[15:20:20] <Turtle> also, victory has been obtained: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/q2uogcr31yesu02/2015-10-15_22-20-03.png?dl=0
L867[15:21:40] <vifino> gamax92: import + curl, i suppose?
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L869[15:23:35] <vifino> How do I open an url in windows? >:>
L870[15:23:38] <vifino> *>_>
L871[15:24:09] <Turtle> Chuck it in windows explorer´s adress bar?
L872[15:24:30] <vifino> No, I mean something I can run in a console .-.
L873[15:25:39] <SkySom> Like curl?
L874[15:25:42] <SkySom> PS or CMD
L875[15:25:44] <Turtle> what are you trying to do?
L876[15:26:12] <vifino> I quote: 'open an url'
L877[15:26:33] <Turtle> ... open it, in what?
L878[15:26:39] <Turtle> Or do what with the data found at the url?
L879[15:26:49] <Daiyousei> c:/path/to/webbrowser.exe http://test.site
L880[15:28:24] <Daiyousei> vifino: or "start http://url.com"
L881[15:29:55] <vifino> dank yo Daiyousei
L882[15:30:01] <Daiyousei> google op
L883[15:30:02] <Daiyousei> kek
L884[15:30:10] <Daiyousei> i didnt even know how to do taht myself
L885[15:30:21] * Daiyousei explores the start command
L886[15:32:06] <vifino> ah, cygwin also has cygstart
L887[15:32:13] <Daiyousei> o
L888[15:32:25] <vifino> which takes cygwin file paths and shit
L889[15:33:06] <vifino> `cygstart http://google.com` works
L890[15:33:09] <vifino> hooray!
L891[15:33:16] <vifino> dank yu Daiyousei
L892[15:33:35] <Daiyousei> topkek :D
L893[15:37:50] <Turtle> hmh, did TileEntities change since 1.4? Or did I just forget? :p
L894[15:38:46] <vifino> :O
L895[15:38:53] <vifino> ldd works ín cygwin!
L896[15:39:03] <vifino> Top! Kek!
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L899[15:43:12] <scj643> What
L900[15:43:22] <Daiyousei> then who was phone?!?!
L901[15:43:28] <vifino> ?!?!!?!?!?
L902[15:43:40] <scj643> I have a place on my path that has cross compiled Linux utilities for windows
L903[15:43:53] <scj643> One of them is wget and another is OpenSSL
L904[15:44:12] <vifino> Can't you just say cygwin?
L905[15:45:26] <scj643> No these are native
L906[15:45:42] <scj643> I can run them in CMD and bat files
L907[15:45:53] <gamax92> ... being able to do that has no baring on being native
L908[15:46:30] <gamax92> But yes, you can get native windows binaries that don't rely on a giant cygwin wrapper layer
L909[15:48:39] <vifino> If you put msys2 stuff in your path, you can run them too.
L910[15:48:47] <vifino> From cmd, that is.
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L912[15:55:48] <SkySom> mingw/msys is quite nice
L913[15:55:57] <SkySom> Though I've been sorta moving my self to using PS commands
L914[15:56:09] <gamax92> mingw and msys are shit
L915[15:56:18] <gamax92> mingw-w64 and msys2 are awesome
L916[15:56:58] * SkySom is using mingw32 and msys1.0
L917[15:57:02] <SkySom> And I have no issue
L918[15:57:08] <SkySom> Hell I didn't know 2.0 was a thing
L919[15:57:33] <gamax92> they're both outdated and have their own slew of issues, if it works for you then sure I guess keep using it
L920[15:58:44] <gamax92> also for reference, mingw32 is not a thing it's mingw, and mingw-w64 does not mean 64bit only, it's 32 and 64
L921[15:59:11] <SkySom> Just had looked in the folder and saw w32
L922[15:59:16] <SkySom> So called it close enough
L923[15:59:33] <gamax92> oh nvm I was wrong about the former
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L925[16:09:37] <Turtle> Hmh, does anyone happen to have the source for a SimpleComponent implementation? I seem to be doing something wrong
L926[16:16:46] <Inari> wait what
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L929[16:17:52] <Turtle> Inari, you talking to me?
L930[16:17:59] <Inari> nope
L931[16:18:03] <Turtle> alright :p
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L933[16:20:49] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, you here?
L934[16:21:00] <gamax92> hi
L935[16:21:05] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, if so, do you still have that tiny collection of chiptune from like 3 years ago
L936[16:21:05] <wolfmitchell> kek
L937[16:21:18] <gamax92> ?
L938[16:21:53] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, didn't i give you a bunch of chiptune like 3-4 years ago?
L939[16:21:59] <gamax92> I don't know
L940[16:22:07] <Inari> lol
L941[16:22:09] <Inari> gg
L942[16:22:12] <wolfmitchell> .
L943[16:30:15] <Kathleen> https://theintercept.com/drone-papers Holy. Shit.
L944[16:31:18] <vifino> I want to sleep tonight, I am not clicking the titles there.
L945[16:40:57] <vifino> ;_; futurama dissapeared from netflix just now
L946[16:41:07] <vifino> Yesterday it was here, now search doesn't find it.
L947[16:41:50] <vifino> You can't do this to me, Netflix.
L948[16:41:53] <vifino> You can't. ;_;
L949[16:46:51] <Lizzy> vifino, q_q
L950[16:47:04] <Lizzy> when we live together, i shall have the box set
L951[16:49:13] <Kathleen> Guys, get a room <.<
L952[16:49:48] <Lizzy> Kathleen, you're welcome to come watch futurama too
L953[16:50:25] <Kathleen> Sure, but only if you two promise to keep it together and not fuck each other's brains out (again)
L954[16:51:27] <Lizzy> we won't, futurama is more important than that
L955[16:51:38] <Turtle> Obligatory >Implying they had brains to start with
L956[16:51:44] * Turtle runs away.
L957[16:51:48] <Kathleen> Turtle: They do. I looked
L958[16:52:27] <Turtle> Kathleen, heh, blame metahumor about how terribly bad the joke is :p
L959[16:52:32] <Lizzy> *no brains were harmed in the process
L960[16:54:20] <Turtle> ugh. I´ll go figure out the java side of components tomorrow .-.
L961[16:54:40] <Caitlyn> So, anyone ever use that CC addon waaaaay back in the day, that let you open an actual port on the server and connect from the internet?
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L964[16:56:04] <Caitlyn> You could run lua scripts from your bwoser, and the prints were sent to the client
L965[16:56:09] <Caitlyn> browser*
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L968[17:10:47] <scj643> It's so quite
L969[17:25:47] <vifino> Lizzy: You have the box set? Pfft, you can have the netflix account bill. :3
L970[17:26:02] * vifino muahahahah! >:3
L971[17:27:48] <Caitlyn> I have the whole series downloaded.. lol
L972[17:28:19] <vifino> Kathleen: I can't promise anything :P
L973[17:28:24] <vifino> Caitlyn: Want.
L974[17:28:26] <vifino> *.*
L975[17:28:37] <Caitlyn> :P
L976[17:29:21] <Caitlyn> https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11139995_1088235147867298_2100783487164525354_n.jpg?oh=de30170abe17e1ddce8777fffedebad8&oe=5687E040
L977[17:36:28] <Inari> https://twitter.com/partyheidi/status/654578262216196098
L978[17:36:29] <MichiBot> Thu Oct 15 03:43:13 CDT 2015 @partyheidi: The Schrödinger's Immigrant. http://t.co/SvwzM27rYk
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L980[17:43:10] <Kathleen> Inari: But what if lazing around on benefits *is* your job?
L981[17:45:01] <Inari> Kathleen: then i want that job :D
L982[17:45:20] <Inari> Kathleen: but you're not really stealing anyoens job, its not like its a limited position
L983[17:45:20] <Inari> ;D
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L985[17:49:18] <ds84182> #lua ("�"):byte()
L986[17:49:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 239
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L992[18:24:03] <vifino> How do I set up hexchat to use utf-8?
L993[18:24:53] <Caitlyn> vifino, in the connection editor http://michi.pc-logix.com/HexChat_Edit_ZNCEsper_2015-10-15_18-24-48.png
L994[18:26:00] <vifino> Thank you very much, Caitlyn.
L995[18:26:06] * vifino gives Caitlyn a cookie
L996[18:26:10] <Caitlyn> Np
L997[18:26:13] <Caitlyn> \o/
L998[18:26:16] * Caitlyn noms cookie
L999[18:27:27] <vifino> o.O
L1000[18:27:34] <vifino> It's already using utf-8...
L1001[18:27:44] <Inari> parfait
L1002[18:30:48] <Kathleen> Brownies
L1003[18:34:30] <ds84182> vifino: duh ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1004[18:34:48] <ds84182> Would I be using hexchat if I couldn't ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 24/7
L1005[18:34:48] <Inari> milfeuille
L1006[18:35:37] <ds84182> CALL rand; LDR PC, R0
L1007[18:35:46] <ds84182> rand lottery.
L1008[18:36:15] <ds84182> 99.999% chance of crashing, 0.00000001% change of surviving.
L1009[18:36:54] <Inari> did you factor in chances of astronomic rays flipping some bits?
L1010[18:37:04] <ds84182> The other unused percentages is where it jumps to a random library function that then calls RET and delightfully exits.
L1011[18:37:22] <ds84182> Inari: Nah, that would create some fairly small numbers
L1012[18:37:37] <ds84182> urg, my hair is itchy
L1013[18:37:52] * ds84182 cries
L1014[18:37:57] <Inari> uh, okay
L1015[18:38:16] <Inari> hair cant be itchy
L1016[18:38:32] <ds84182> MY SCALP
L1017[18:38:38] <Inari> that can be
L1018[18:38:43] <Inari> so, fix it
L1019[18:38:53] <ds84182> Can I just do away with natural hair and get a flowing wig?
L1020[18:39:00] <Inari> sure
L1021[18:39:01] <ds84182> In fact, I know whose hair to steal
L1022[18:39:06] <Inari> ALL?
L1023[18:39:10] <ds84182> Nah
L1024[18:39:13] <Inari> lol
L1025[18:39:20] <ds84182> I"M COMING FOR YOU HAIR PixelToast
L1026[18:39:50] <ds84182> As much as I like ALL's hair, it's not as long and flowy as PixelToast's
L1027[18:40:01] <Inari> swiggity swooty, coming for that booty~ *hands PixelToast booty hair protection kit*
L1028[18:40:10] <ds84182> .tell v^ I'm going to murder you and wear your hair ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1029[18:40:10] <^v4> ds84182, Message queued.
L1030[18:40:20] <ds84182> .tell v^Phone I'm going to murder you and wear your hair ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1031[18:40:21] <^v4> ds84182, Message queued.
L1032[18:40:26] <ds84182> I think that got it covered
L1033[18:40:29] <gamax92> ping
L1034[18:40:31] <gamax92> pong
L1035[18:40:39] <Inari> pong
L1036[18:40:40] <Inari> ping
L1037[18:40:50] <gamax92> Inari doesn't get it
L1038[18:40:57] <Inari> i do :<
L1039[18:40:58] <ds84182> I forgot that one too
L1040[18:41:03] <ds84182> .tell ping I'm going to murder you and wear your hair ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1041[18:41:03] <^v4> ds84182, Message queued.
L1042[18:41:06] <ds84182> .tell pong I'm going to murder you and wear your hair ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1043[18:41:06] <^v4> ds84182, Message queued.
L1044[18:41:08] <Inari> :P
L1045[18:41:12] <gamax92> lol
L1046[18:41:38] <Inari> #p
L1047[18:41:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.4770692449999999 Seconds passed.
L1048[18:42:26] <Inari> if you wanna be my lover~ *sings*
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L1050[18:49:29] <Inari> .tell gamax92 ohi
L1051[18:49:29] <^v4> Inari, Message queued.
L1052[18:49:42] * gamax92 crashes
L1053[18:49:47] <gamax92> ...
L1054[18:49:50] <gamax92> it didn't even say ohai
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L1057[18:49:56] <Caitlyn> lol
L1058[18:50:01] <gamax92> still nope
L1059[18:50:07] <Caitlyn> %tell gamax92 uwot
L1060[18:50:07] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: gamax92 will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1061[18:50:11] <gamax92> noop
L1062[18:50:15] <gamax92> that workd
L1063[18:50:26] <Caitlyn> MichiBot, ftw.
L1064[18:50:36] <Inari> %tell gamax92
L1065[18:50:36] <MichiBot> Inari: What did you want to say to gamax92?
L1066[18:50:40] <Inari> %tell gamax92 ohi
L1067[18:50:40] <MichiBot> Inari: gamax92 will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1068[18:51:37] <vifino> ds84182: I need a solution. ._.
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L1072[19:04:10] <vifino> Caitlyn: Can you help me figure this out somehow? ._.
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L1074[19:04:28] <vifino> I don't even windows, and you seem like the expect ._.
L1075[19:04:30] <Caitlyn> As long as you're editing the network you're connected with, it should just work.
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L1077[19:04:45] <vifino> It was already at UTF-8, that's the thing
L1078[19:05:00] <Caitlyn> I have *rarely* had issues with UTF-8 not working, but usually restarting the client fixes it.
L1079[19:05:37] <gamax92> vifino: are you using a bouncer?
L1080[19:05:54] <vifino> Just restarted.
L1081[19:06:04] <gamax92> because some like to do conversions as well, and improperly destroy everything
L1082[19:06:16] <vifino> At least in the scrollback it doesn't work.
L1083[19:06:32] <vifino> It does not.
L1084[19:06:36] <vifino> Greeeeeaaaaaaat.
L1085[19:06:59] <Caitlyn> vifino, do you have a unicode capable font?
L1086[19:07:02] <Caitlyn> I use unifont
L1087[19:07:04] <vifino> Yes.
L1088[19:07:14] <Caitlyn> justh ave to add it to the list of fonts Hex can use
L1089[19:07:29] <Caitlyn> "Anrdoid Emoji,Segoe UI,Arial Unicode MS,Lucida Sans Unicode,MS Gothic,Unifont,Unifont CSUR,Symbola"
L1090[19:08:05] <gamax92> doesn't unifont csur include unifont's base
L1091[19:08:11] * Caitlyn shrugs
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L1101[19:32:16] <S3> ooh
L1102[19:32:22] <S3> mounting images is fun with FreeBSD
L1103[19:32:43] <S3> you use the md driver
L1104[19:32:54] <S3> which somehow looks more powerful than the Linux loop device driver but Idk
L1105[19:33:10] <gamax92> you could also use nbd instead of loop
L1106[19:33:29] <S3> nbd?
L1107[19:33:35] <gamax92> network block device
L1108[19:33:41] <S3> oh
L1109[19:33:58] <S3> with FreeBSD you set it up with mdconfig which is very much the same as making a loop device
L1110[19:34:01] <gamax92> doesn't have to be over the internet ofc, example: qemu-nbd
L1111[19:34:09] <S3> oh that
L1112[19:34:16] <S3> neat
L1113[19:35:52] <S3> I wonder, should I make my boot loader look for like a config file or a file like BOOT.LUA or INIT.LUA
L1114[19:36:25] <S3> could do a basic INI file
L1115[19:38:25] <Caitlyn> Someone name my new OC addon for DB Access, and basic webserving (if enabled in the config)
L1116[19:38:45] <S3> OCDBI ?
L1117[19:38:48] <S3> lol
L1118[19:39:00] <ds84182> The music in Triforce Heroes is absolutely beautiful. This is the first time I've desired video game music from a game that isn't even out yet
L1119[19:39:06] <S3> what kind of DB
L1120[19:39:09] <ds84182> I'm so conflicted >_<
L1121[19:39:27] <Caitlyn> It'll ship MySQL, in theory you can do others... I've not got that far into the design
L1122[19:39:31] <S3> with an Internet card you can make al ua MySQL client
L1123[19:39:35] <S3> lua*
L1124[19:40:47] <Caitlyn> Sure, and with this addon you can just directly query it.
L1125[19:43:29] <S3> oh..
L1126[19:43:47] <S3> I thought FAT12 allowed for 7 character filenames because one char was used for something special
L1127[19:44:01] <S3> I guess it has been a long time since I've used windows 3.1 or MSDOS 6
L1128[19:44:06] <S3> as my primary system
L1129[19:44:18] <S3> apparently it can hold 8 character filenames
L1130[19:45:11] <gamax92> 8.3
L1131[19:45:18] <gamax92> there is a special character, and it's used for deleted files
L1132[19:45:34] <S3> hmm
L1133[19:45:53] <S3> so I guess this is how I can do it
L1134[19:46:02] <S3> my fat12 boot disk eeprom
L1135[19:46:09] <gamax92> also many specs consider "." to be a special character and say special stuff about it
L1136[19:46:19] <S3> will just look for a file in the root called BOOTARGS.TXT
L1137[19:46:32] <gamax92> but honestly, it's just any normal directory that if it's . it points to the same directory cluster, and .. points to the parent directory
L1138[19:46:38] <S3> for the OCBSD boot disk this just holds MINI4TH.LUA LOADER.4TH
L1139[19:46:53] <S3> which is obvious how that runs
L1140[19:47:08] <gamax92> S3: if you want to make something to just load stuff from the root directory, that will be thousands of times easier to implement
L1141[19:47:36] <Inari> Shuudoushi: https://i.imgur.com/zaLv6pc.jpg
L1142[19:47:49] <Caitlyn> dot dot dot....
L1143[19:48:10] <Inari> im curious if that was engineered with that in mind
L1144[19:48:14] <S3> gamax92: what do you mean?
L1145[19:48:36] <S3> I figure with a BOOTARGS.TXT in root, you can just give a path to a lua script to execute and the args to pass it
L1146[19:49:13] <Shuudoushi> Inari: I've had those before, and no... that is NOT intended...
L1147[19:49:22] <Inari> lol
L1148[19:49:25] <S3> giving a bit more power than just looking for like an init.lua or something
L1149[19:49:39] <gamax92> just incase you're unaware, the root directory does not follow the same structure as a normal directory, it doesn't occupy a cluster and it's fixed sized
L1150[19:49:51] <S3> ouch
L1151[19:49:59] <gamax92> normal directories occupy clusters, and can be extended by adding a cluster to it's chain
L1152[19:50:00] <S3> sooo
L1153[19:50:06] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfXaC8jHpIw&feature=youtu.be
L1154[19:50:06] <MichiBot> Inari: egg balance prank | length: 1m 45s | Likes: 2594 Dislikes: 34 Views: 19090 | by Sam Wilkinson
L1155[19:50:07] <gamax92> so you get to implement code for both!
L1156[19:50:23] <S3> so that's why the disk space usage seems so wack with these emtyt files in root eh?
L1157[19:50:45] <gamax92> my disk space usage is basically number of used clusters out of total clusters
L1158[19:51:35] <Shuudoushi> Inari: that is just so fucked up...
L1159[19:51:37] <S3> so what you're saying is that I shouldn't have anything in my root directory besides directories
L1160[19:51:38] <Shuudoushi> I like it!
L1161[19:51:46] <gamax92> ... no?
L1162[19:51:55] <Inari> Shuudoushi: xD
L1163[19:51:56] <S3> I need to lower my resolution. I can't see anything lol
L1164[19:52:03] <gamax92> wtf made you think that
L1165[19:52:10] <S3> omg much better
L1166[19:52:10] <Shuudoushi> S3 doesn't linux much I take it gamax92?
L1167[19:52:28] <gamax92> idunno, S3 seems to be a BSD person
L1168[19:52:28] <S3> wow I can actually read IRC !
L1169[19:52:39] <Shuudoushi> ...
L1170[19:52:59] <Shuudoushi> how the fuck can you not know that root is a fixed size...
L1171[19:53:05] <S3> gamax92: so right now, I have all of the bootdisk files in the root
L1172[19:53:17] <gamax92> because that is not a generic filesystem thing
L1173[19:53:39] <gamax92> S3: okay, that'll work for what you'd want
L1174[19:54:08] <S3> I'm hoping to use this more of a rescue disk
L1175[19:54:33] <S3> and a bootstrapping aide while OCBSD still doesn't have any filesystems yet
L1176[19:54:36] <gamax92> also, an empty directory will still occupy a cluster, but an empty file can occupy no cluster (it's filesize will just be marked as zero)
L1177[19:56:20] <S3> currently right now if I mount the disk and type ls, there are no directories, and this is what I see: http://hastebin.com/uxufibetop.txt
L1178[19:56:35] <S3> it basically contains miniforth.lua, and all of the OCBSD bootloader files.
L1179[19:56:57] <S3> I made them all caps for the sake of MSDOS days
L1180[19:56:59] <S3> :)_
L1181[19:58:01] <S3> gamax92: that's some interesting stuff about fat12 though
L1182[19:58:01] <gamax92> if you can, mount that as msdos and not vfat, as vfat entries take up entries in the root directory, which recall is fixed sized
L1183[19:58:16] <S3> I mounted it as msdosfs
L1184[19:58:24] <S3> so hopefully freebsd took care of that
L1185[20:02:18] <Shuudoushi> http://imgur.com/gallery/whKmmrV
L1186[20:02:38] <S3> if I'm only reading from root, this fat12 lua driver should be extremely small
L1187[20:03:05] <gamax92> mmhm
L1188[20:03:52] <S3> reminds me of the gamecube/wii DVD filesystem driver I wrote
L1189[20:04:17] <S3> at first it would read directories but it wouldn't extract them because it was easier to just extract them all into one place
L1190[20:04:34] <S3> it wouldn't follow directories the same way. probably because the filesystem is retarded on that thing
L1191[20:05:08] <S3> but it was cool how I wrote it in Perl and it can extract any wii / gamecube DVD ISO 1000x faster than the windows ISO extractors I've found
L1192[20:05:23] <S3> it extracts metroid prime in about 10 seconds
L1193[20:05:48] <S3> twilight princess in like 15
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L1195[20:18:19] <scj643> Wow
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L1197[20:26:06] <ds84182> >Windows
L1198[20:26:08] <ds84182> Thats why
L1199[20:26:18] <ds84182> We all know creating a fuck ton of files is slow in windows
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L1201[20:34:50] <S3> aha. fat12 is little endian
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L1203[20:35:05] <S3> which makes sense
L1204[20:35:10] <S3> little endian is amazing
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L1208[20:42:18] <Shuudoushi> http://imgur.com/gallery/0bHz1wo
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L1211[20:48:53] <ds84182> omg, triforce heroes' background music changes for various levels of totem stack, and on full totem stack it goes completely acapella
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L1215[21:03:21] <ds84182> Dahling
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L1217[21:03:26] <Dahling> yas
L1218[21:04:59] <vifino> Ah, it is bad pun friday.
L1219[21:05:06] <vifino> How I not miss that.
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L1222[21:05:29] <Dahling> It's thursday for me
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L1224[21:18:58] <S3> not yet
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L1226[21:21:01] <mobieh> hello, could anyone here help me with a script for network file transfer?
L1227[21:27:18] <S3> Mobieh: hey
L1228[21:28:31] <S3> Mobieh what seems to be the problem
L1229[21:37:29] <mobieh> im gona pm you k?
L1230[21:38:05] <Shuudoushi> ...
L1231[21:41:01] <mobieh> i kind of need help on how i could make the script read files,send the contents thru network,makes another file on the storage device, then pipes the data into that file
L1232[21:41:37] <Shuudoushi> ...
L1233[21:42:02] <Shuudoushi> I'm going to link you to some stuff that will seem unrelated, one sec
L1234[21:42:13] <mobieh> ok
L1235[21:42:35] <gamax92> so, you kinda need help with (basically the entire program)
L1236[21:43:49] <mobieh> well im new to lua, im a fast learner so....
L1237[21:44:11] <gamax92> is that so? well first lesson, "I'm" is spelled "I'm"
L1238[21:45:01] <Shuudoushi> mobieh: read file https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/blob/dev/root/sudo.lua#L7-L9
L1239[21:45:09] <Shuudoushi> just the highlighted bits
L1240[21:46:28] <Shuudoushi> mobieh: btw, that will only read the first line, to read the whole file do <whatever>:read("*1") iirc
L1241[21:46:57] <Shuudoushi> ~w filesystem
L1242[21:46:58] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:filesystem
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L1244[21:47:58] <S3> mobieh: You shouldn't blindly pm people
L1245[21:48:12] <Shuudoushi> ... ocdoc you're being dumb again...
L1246[21:48:14] <S3> most people don't like that. I really don't care either way but I usually ignore them
L1247[21:48:16] <Shuudoushi> ~w filesystem api
L1248[21:48:16] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L1249[21:48:20] <Shuudoushi> mobieh: ^
L1250[21:49:29] <Shuudoushi> that should tell you everything you need to know about reading from and writing to files, plus other handy shit
L1251[21:49:49] <S3> mobieh: you'll also need to come up with a protocol for sending the files
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L1253[21:50:14] <Shuudoushi> ~w modem
L1254[21:50:14] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
L1255[21:50:22] <Shuudoushi> mobieh: using shit from this ^
L1256[21:50:33] <S3> one simple way to do it is to just give the length of the file over the network then just start sending it in chunks.
L1257[21:50:47] <Shuudoushi> ^
L1258[21:50:49] <gamax92> ocdoc is sorta hardcoded to prefer component documentation
L1259[21:51:12] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: I noticed...
L1260[21:51:32] <S3> mobieh: however that is a pretty awful way to do it
L1261[21:51:39] <S3> I mean it's pretty limited
L1262[21:51:51] <gamax92> fuck.
L1263[21:51:55] <gamax92> broke this rubberband
L1264[21:52:03] <Shuudoushi> lulz
L1265[21:52:13] <S3> gamax92: howd that feel?
L1266[21:52:31] <gamax92> not as bad as certain parts of undertale
L1267[21:52:46] <S3> lol
L1268[21:53:23] <S3> I like how I can watch something on hulu, at first second skip til beginning of episode
L1269[21:53:29] <S3> and it makes me watch commercials anyways
L1270[21:53:45] * Temia peeeers from behind gamax. owo
L1271[21:53:48] <Shuudoushi> that's why I don't use hulu :D
L1272[21:53:54] <gamax92> Temia: hai
L1273[21:53:56] <S3> lol
L1274[21:53:59] <Temia> Hi owo
L1275[21:54:07] <S3> I'm watching this weird ass show
L1276[21:54:21] <S3> about some crazy lunatic that goes around burning people with fire
L1277[21:54:26] <Shuudoushi> S3: the thing I love the most about hulu though, even if you pay for the 'service', you still have to sit through ads
L1278[21:54:35] * gamax92 gives Temia pets
L1279[21:54:41] * Temia leans into pets. <3
L1280[21:54:47] <S3> I like watching random shows because I find the weirdest shit XD
L1281[21:55:25] * gamax92 wonders if Temia is playing undertale
L1282[21:55:42] <Temia> Played, beat, got feels.
L1283[21:56:13] <Temia> Now I shoot the shit with other fans of it on Steam.
L1284[21:56:45] <S3> Shuudoushi: hulu lets you watch ad free now
L1285[21:56:49] <S3> but it costs more $$$
L1286[21:57:38] <Shuudoushi> yeah
L1287[21:57:43] <Shuudoushi> fuck that shit
L1288[21:58:09] <mobieh> i almost died of laughter watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4QkGR0q5Es
L1289[21:58:10] <MichiBot> mobieh: Happy Birthday Dog - AFV Prize Winner - AFV | length: 42s | Likes: 2882 Dislikes: 66 Views: 939634 | by America's Funniest Home Videos
L1290[21:58:32] <gamax92> Temia: I'm finishing up the True Pacifist ending
L1291[22:00:06] <S3> heh.
L1292[22:00:12] <S3> gamax92: fat fragments extremely fast
L1293[22:00:35] <Temia> Godspeed then, Gamax
L1294[22:00:36] <gamax92> if you use a naive implementation, yes
L1295[22:00:37] <Temia> And remember
L1296[22:00:41] <Temia> do not bully the goat
L1297[22:02:57] <S3> what
L1298[22:03:07] <S3> Temia: you just made a giant blue rectangle on my screen
L1299[22:03:26] <Shuudoushi> spoiler
L1300[22:03:31] <Shuudoushi> highlight it
L1301[22:03:39] <S3> ...
L1302[22:03:52] <Shuudoushi> it's a unicode trick...
L1303[22:04:01] <gamax92> it's just irc colors
L1304[22:04:01] <S3> I have unicode off
L1305[22:04:04] <S3> :P
L1306[22:04:07] <Shuudoushi> there's a fist full of other ways of doing it as well
L1307[22:04:12] <S3> you're a unicode trick
L1308[22:04:17] <gamax92> Just like this
L1309[22:04:50] <S3> there was once this website that if you highlighted the entire page at the very bottom a hidden text read "admin password: some easy password here"
L1310[22:04:54] <S3> ...
L1311[22:05:13] <S3> apparently the webmaster was very forgetful
L1312[22:08:33] <mobieh> talking about webs... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc
L1313[22:08:34] <MichiBot> mobieh: Spiders On Drugs | length: 1m 51s | Likes: 189702 Dislikes: 4016 Views: 38980241 | by Andrew Struthers
L1314[22:08:55] <S3> oh that video
L1315[22:09:06] <mobieh> XD
L1316[22:13:20] <gamax92> í¹”íší¹©í¹³íŒ í¥©í©³íž í©¡í±®í¬ íµ¥í©®í±£íœ²íœ¹íµ°íµŽí¥¥í±€í  í¥³í¥Ží¹²í¥©í®í¥§í ¬íŒ í¥§í±¯í¹¯í±€íš íµªí±¯í¢íŒ¡
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L1319[22:30:54] <gamax92> that will decode btw, it may have lost some unimportant bits but I did decode it
L1320[22:33:15] <Kodos> Okay, so I accidentally went to bed this afternoon
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L1328[23:17:06] <sugoi> do hover boots give flight?
L1329[23:17:13] <sugoi> or jusst better jumping?
L1330[23:25:12] <Kodos> Autostep and better jumping iirc
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