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L1[00:07:22] <v^> mfernflower, ohai
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L16[01:09:49] <Kodos> What happens when you use one robot to analyze another via the Analyzer item
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L36[03:46:36] <Kodos> http://www.wired.com/2015/09/microsoft-built-linux-everyone-else/?mbid=social_fb
L37[04:09:57] *** Lizzy changes topic to 'Forums: http://oc.cil.li/ | Wiki: http://ocd.cil.li/ | Latest version: 1.5.18 | Dev Builds: http://ci.cil.li/ | Channel Rules: http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/171- | Stats: http://www.theender.net/stats/oc.html | Don't ask to ahuhsk, just ask!'
L38[04:10:01] <Lizzy> wtf
L39[04:10:13] *** Lizzy changes topic to 'Forums: http://oc.cil.li/ | Wiki: http://ocd.cil.li/ | Latest version: 1.5.18 | Dev Builds: http://ci.cil.li/ | Channel Rules: http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/171- | Stats: http://www.theender.net/stats/oc.html | Don't ask to ask, just ask!'
L40[04:10:20] <Lizzy> fuck you hexchat
L41[04:10:42] <Vexatos> ahuhsk, Lizzy.
L42[04:10:44] <Vexatos> ahuhsk.
L43[04:11:18] <Lizzy> i was writing huh into the chat in response to Kodos's link but hexchat decided to edit the topic instead
L44[04:14:39] <Vexatos> ahuhsk.
L45[04:18:01] * Lizzy stabs Vexatos
L46[04:18:10] <Izaya> ahuhsk
L47[04:18:21] <Vexatos> Lizzy, please don't stab me, ahusk
L48[04:18:35] <Vexatos> I have ashuhsk and ahusk now
L49[04:18:37] <Izaya> Please ahuhsk before stabbing me
L50[04:18:55] <Vexatos> ahusk is something like ablaze
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L52[04:19:13] <Vexatos> You may be a ghast, a blaze or a husk >_>
L53[04:19:18] * Vexatos died by puns
L54[04:19:35] * Lizzy stabs self and bleeds out
L55[04:19:43] <Vexatos> Nooooooooooo
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L62[05:02:47] <Kodos> I forgot how much fun PlanetSide 2 was
L63[05:02:57] <Kodos> Also holy shit it's 5 am
L64[05:09:00] <Vexatos> Wrong. It's 12 a.m.
L65[05:09:01] <Vexatos> :3
L66[05:13:17] <Izaya> right
L67[05:13:19] <Izaya> 200 tabe
L68[05:13:22] <Izaya> tabs*
L69[05:13:26] <Izaya> time to close firefox and re-open it
L70[05:13:30] <Izaya> too much memory usage
L71[05:14:56] <Izaya> http://imgur.com/Y6JwmN2l.png
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L74[05:31:30] <Turtle> Isn't planetside a microtransaction fest now?
L75[05:55:10] <Kubuxu> Turtle: it i.
L76[05:55:12] <Kubuxu> s.
L77[05:56:20] <Kubuxu> It takes like two weeks to unlock one non-stock weapon or you have to pay for it.
L78[05:56:37] <Turtle> that has been like that for ages
L79[05:56:44] <Turtle> but there's boosters and implants crap now
L80[05:57:26] <Turtle> Did SoE release the new launchers for VS/NC yet? TR was massively overpowered with their multilauncher
L81[05:57:44] <Kubuxu> Oh, I didn't know that.
L82[05:58:25] <Kubuxu> Even more reasons not to play it but apart from p2w it's fun game.
L83[05:58:33] <Turtle> I quit when TR got their new launcher
L84[05:58:56] <Turtle> had like 5 missiles in a clip you could rapidly fire on a single target
L85[05:59:08] <Turtle> nearly impossible to get away from if you weren't an amazing pilot
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L93[06:17:00] <S3> *yawns*
L94[06:17:15] <S3> Why do I take 8 am lab classes
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L96[06:33:27] <S3> Who wants to take my exam tomorrow?
L97[06:46:34] <Inari> S3: what exam
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L102[07:31:23] * Lizzy brushes herself off then goes to get food
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L104[07:51:47] <LJack2k> hello everybody
L105[07:52:28] <Inari> hello dr nick
L106[07:52:43] <gamax92> hello every everybody
L107[07:53:06] <LJack2k> how are you all today?
L108[07:55:04] <Lizzy> dirty
L109[07:55:18] <LJack2k> o.O what kind of dirty?
L110[07:56:10] <Lizzy> imagine a dirty/dusty office, then imagine what a switch or other device with a fan would look like after it's been in there about 3 years
L111[07:56:32] <Lizzy> half the crap on the switch is now on me after taking it out
L112[07:56:32] <LJack2k> smoking in the office?
L113[07:56:40] <Lizzy> no, just general dust
L114[07:56:49] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L115[07:56:56] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L116[07:57:22] <vifino> <3
L117[07:57:52] <Lizzy> <3
L118[07:58:00] <LJack2k> get a room ;)
L119[07:58:28] <gamax92> LJack2k: Hi welcome to #oc
L120[07:58:45] <Lizzy> ^
L121[07:58:47] <Kodos> LJack2k, they're in their room
L122[07:58:52] <Kodos> You're in their room, too
L123[07:58:57] <LJack2k> .... duh
L124[07:59:16] <Lizzy> Also microcontrollers can't take linked cards can they?
L125[07:59:20] <LJack2k> its not my first day in here
L126[07:59:27] <Kodos> Lizzy, do they have a T3 slot?
L127[07:59:33] * Lizzy shrugs
L128[07:59:42] <Lizzy> i haven't messed about with them too much
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L130[08:03:21] <Vexatos> S3, I'd love to take some 8 a.m. lab classes
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L132[08:18:40] * vifino curls up on Lizzy
L133[08:18:54] * Lizzy pets
L134[08:19:16] * vifino purrs
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L137[08:30:26] <Kodos> I would love to take them too. Just project them onto the back of my eyelids, as that's what I'm about to go stare at for 8 hours
L138[08:30:31] <Kodos> o/
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L147[09:23:31] <Noob> Sorry, a little off-topic question, but are there any energy mods for 1.8 at all? OC keeps annoying me with message that no energy mods are present on 1.8 server ._.
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L149[09:31:30] <Vexatos> Noob, turn energy use off in the config
L150[09:31:34] <Vexatos> and it will stop telling you
L151[09:32:15] <Aedda> Lol, my buffer was cut off, I thought you were being mean Vexatos xD
L152[09:32:51] <Vexatos> Aedda, if I was talking to you I obviously would be
L153[09:32:52] <Vexatos> duh
L154[09:33:09] <Aedda> ooooh ;p
L155[09:33:26] <Aedda> anyway hope everyone is well, I'm off to the dentist x_x o/
L156[09:33:35] <Vexatos> poor dentist
L157[09:33:42] <Vexatos> :3
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L159[09:55:05] <Kubuxu> Aedda, aedda: Vexatos was mean to someone. ;p
L160[09:56:45] <vifino> Vexatos is mean to Vexatos.
L161[09:57:36] <Vexatos> adder?
L162[09:58:07] <vifino> binary adder
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L164[09:59:24] <Vexatos> baedda?
L165[09:59:38] <S3> So I might be making some add-on oc mods called S3utils or something
L166[10:00:01] <S3> It'll be a collection of tiny mods that add some nifty features
L167[10:00:12] <Vexatos> I made a mod yesterday
L168[10:00:18] <S3> ?
L169[10:00:19] <Vexatos> adds a forestry backpack that you can fill with OC stuff
L170[10:00:22] <Vexatos> among others
L171[10:00:23] <Vexatos> :3
L172[10:00:41] <Kubuxu> S3 you should make OC add-on that allows you to storage files in S3 buckets.
L173[10:01:01] <S3> Kubuxu- what do you mean
L174[10:01:18] <Kubuxu> Amazon S3 is cloud storage service.
L175[10:01:24] <Kubuxu> It stored data in buckets.
L176[10:01:30] <S3> Oh
L177[10:01:45] <Kubuxu> Now take bucket name it S3 and you can store data from OC in buckets.
L178[10:02:08] <S3> That would be confusing
L179[10:02:13] <Vexatos> tank controller upgrade
L180[10:02:14] <Vexatos> .-.
L181[10:02:19] <S3> Because my Nick has nothing to do with Amazon
L182[10:02:55] <Kubuxu> But it is S3, and S3 is their service. Are you stored in buckets?
L183[10:03:06] <LJack2k> lol
L184[10:04:51] <S3> One will definately be a rack mount San. Which is like a raid but it works with unmanaged disks is more expensive and fits more disks
L185[10:05:49] *** surferconor425|Away is now known as surferconor425
L186[10:09:05] <dangranos> hi
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L188[10:28:00] <Vexatos> #jenkins
L189[10:28:07] <Vexatos> or was it
L190[10:28:08] <Vexatos> .jenkins
L191[10:28:12] <EnderBot2> Latest builds: ICBMComponent: #22 | OpenLights1.7: #18 | ZettaIndustries: #97 | OpenSecurity: #65 | OpenPrinter: #79 | OpenPrinter1.7: #120 | OpenComputersDev: #776 | OpenLights: #20 | OpenComputers: #39
L192[10:29:17] <Lizzy> don't trust the links EnderBot2 gives out when you reference a specific project. i have no idea what it does to get them and i don't want to look at the code to work it out
L193[10:31:09] <Lizzy> in other news i need to move scj643's VPS disk into the same place as the rest of the VM disks. currently it's just sitting in / taking up space
L194[10:31:36] <scj643> .....
L195[10:31:45] <S3> ow?
L196[10:31:48] <Lizzy> don't worry, it's my fault, not yours
L197[10:31:52] <S3> Lizzy: you no use LVM for your vms?
L198[10:31:57] <Lizzy> S3: ?
L199[10:32:11] <scj643> Wish I could use LVM but afaik windows doesn't like that
L200[10:32:34] <S3> I put my VM disks in LVM volumes, so like, I use xen so I use a naming convention of /dev/vg0/domu-HOSTNAME
L201[10:32:44] <S3> vg0 being my vg
L202[10:32:59] <S3> makes it easy to resize them, move them, etc
L203[10:33:39] <Lizzy> S3: how well does LVM work with RAID setups? also i'm not going to attempt to convert the disks to LVM in anyway because i don't wanna break more shit
L204[10:33:45] <scj643> Wonder how open stack would work don't you need a lot of machines for that
L205[10:33:54] <S3> software or hardware RAID?
L206[10:34:04] <Lizzy> Software, i think
L207[10:34:05] <S3> should work fine with both, technically
L208[10:34:19] <S3> you will get slight overhead from using software
L209[10:34:30] <S3> but I doubt itl be that noticable
L210[10:34:36] <S3> LVM is like a "subpartition" table
L211[10:34:50] <S3> the os sees it not much different really
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L213[10:35:11] <Lizzy> also using QEMU's format is okay. just not when the disk is sitting on the 20GB / partition instead of the 855GB /home partition
L214[10:35:27] <S3> wow, that's a huge /
L215[10:35:50] <Lizzy> eh, it handles everthing that isn't /boot or /home
L216[10:36:18] <scj643> My server is running from /home
L217[10:36:34] <scj643> Dang for open stack you need at least 3 machines
L218[10:36:37] <Lizzy> scj643: on your vps it is, the virtual disk for your vps is in Athar's /
L219[10:36:45] <Lizzy> at least i think that's your disk
L220[10:36:46] <Lizzy> hold on
L221[10:37:20] <S3> This is how I organize my partitions on my VM hosts: http://pastebin.com/DVhETCeb
L222[10:37:32] <S3> my / is only 500 MB
L223[10:37:34] <S3> or so
L224[10:38:02] <scj643> http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_overview.html#example-architecture-with-neutron-networking-hw
L225[10:38:03] <S3> the rest of the disk is reserved for LVM volumes representing vms
L226[10:38:14] <S3> or emergency free space in case I need it
L227[10:38:16] <Lizzy> scj643: ya, your disk is in qemu's default disk location. I'll move it at some point
L228[10:38:31] <scj643> Ok
L229[10:38:37] <Lizzy> also S3, i wasn't originally intending for Athar to be a proper VM host
L230[10:38:57] <scj643> If there was a way to setup a fully working open stack that would be awesome to mess with
L231[10:39:10] <S3> then I move /home into /usr and make a symlink /home -> /usr/home so that when I expand usr it expands both system space for packages and /home, then use quotas to handle space in /home
L232[10:39:24] <S3> Lizzy: :)
L233[10:39:36] <Lizzy> Izaya: what the fuck are you doing on your vps?
L234[10:39:43] <Lizzy> you're like, maxing out the cores
L235[10:39:50] <S3> Lizzy: Not saying this is the best way to do it, I just happen to do it this way nowadays for some oddball reason if I don't have a SAN ready
L236[10:40:05] <vifino> I bet Inari is trying to run HAL9000.
L237[10:40:08] <vifino> er
L238[10:40:10] <vifino> Izaya
L239[10:40:14] <Inari> psh
L240[10:40:21] * Inari throws time machines at vifino
L241[10:40:22] <scj643> Open stack can spin up, remove, and edit VMs on the fly via a web interface and make virtual networking setups
L242[10:40:22] <S3> Izaya is probably forking sha512 on /dev/unrandom
L243[10:40:22] <vifino> FOR FUCKS SAKE WEECHAT, YOUR TABBING GETS WORSE AND WORSE EVERY DAY
L244[10:40:46] <Izaya> Lizzy, literally nothing
L245[10:40:47] * vifino throws rocks at Inari
L246[10:40:56] <S3> Izaya: wat
L247[10:41:06] <Lizzy> Izaya: then why is it showing as maxing out 2 of Athar's cores?
L248[10:41:09] <S3> did you get hacked and now somebody is piggy backing your box with a rootkit in some botnet?
L249[10:41:14] <S3> :P
L250[10:41:27] <scj643> Lol
L251[10:41:31] <Izaya> lemme ssh in
L252[10:41:40] <Izaya> S3, key only login, no services running
L253[10:42:01] <S3> Izaya must be bait sending thousands of thousands of emails to everyone in the world. say hello to being on every /24 blacklist Lizzy :)
L254[10:42:30] <S3> Izaya: .... are you running emacs?
L255[10:42:33] <S3> XD
L256[10:42:35] <Lizzy> S3: i'm fine with that, his VPS IP would be in a different /24
L257[10:42:41] <Izaya> can't even connect
L258[10:42:48] <Lizzy> if it was /24 subnetted
L259[10:42:56] <S3> was Izaya's password izaya
L260[10:43:03] <S3> and no key pair auth
L261[10:43:04] <Izaya> is the IP 62.210.7.193 or have I got the wrong IP in my configs?
L262[10:43:25] <S3> no hostname>
L263[10:43:26] <S3> ?
L264[10:43:27] <Lizzy> hold on
L265[10:43:47] <scj643> My host name is scj.theender.net and scj643.theender.net which is my VPS
L266[10:43:47] <Lizzy> 62.210.7.193 Izaya
L267[10:43:50] <Izaya> S3, that's the IP for the hostname in my configs
L268[10:44:08] <scj643> Digital ocean vps
L269[10:44:09] <Izaya> can't even connect
L270[10:44:14] <Izaya> reboot pls
L271[10:44:16] <Lizzy> k
L272[10:44:33] <scj643> I use my digital ocean VPS for file hosting and web sites
L273[10:44:41] <Lizzy> Izaya: it rebooting
L274[10:44:46] <S3> rsync ftw scj643
L275[10:44:47] <scj643> Going with polymer for my design
L276[10:45:21] <Lizzy> also when you point a hostname at your VPS, Izaya, tell me it and I'll add it to the rDNS for it
L277[10:45:31] <S3> polu,er ej?
L278[10:45:38] <S3> polymer eh*
L279[10:45:49] <scj643> It's a design for web
L280[10:45:50] <Izaya> Lizzy, I have literally no idea what the fuck it was doing
L281[10:46:01] <Izaya> maybe it managed to kernel panic
L282[10:46:04] <scj643> https://www.polymer-project.org/1.0/
L283[10:46:05] <Lizzy> ha
L284[10:46:20] <scj643> It has Googles material design
L285[10:46:24] <Izaya> I'll leave the ssh open on lain
L286[10:46:34] <Izaya> so if it dies I'll have a connection open to it
L287[10:46:39] <S3> huh.
L288[10:46:45] <scj643> Mc is only taking 20% cup
L289[10:46:47] <S3> soooo
L290[10:46:48] <Lizzy> Izaya: currently your server's rDNS is "62-210-7-193.rev.poneytelecom.eu."
L291[10:46:48] <scj643> Cpu
L292[10:46:55] <S3> polymer is a periodic table for the web
L293[10:47:03] <S3> :P
L294[10:47:11] <Lizzy> \o/ none of Athar's cores are maxed
L295[10:47:13] <S3> the websites documentation is so stupid that that is what I get from it
L296[10:47:22] <Lizzy> though that's gonna change when i start GZipping this file
L297[10:47:40] <S3> but it looks neat scj643
L298[10:48:11] <S3> Izaya: you should probably check your box for odd activity
L299[10:48:36] <scj643> My digital ocean vps does have pretty good ping
L300[10:48:55] <scj643> PGP pretty good privacy or pretty good ping :D
L301[10:49:11] <scj643> The digital ocean vps has 512 MB ram
L302[10:49:18] <scj643> 20 GB HDD
L303[10:49:27] <scj643> And eventually a 1tb data cap
L304[10:49:35] <scj643> Also one core
L305[10:49:36] <Izaya> nothing notable running on there
L306[10:49:47] <Izaya> :/
L307[10:49:48] <Lizzy> ahaha wow
L308[10:49:54] <Lizzy> pigz is awesome
L309[10:49:59] <Izaya> parallel gzip?
L310[10:50:01] <Lizzy> multithreaded gzip
L311[10:50:02] <Lizzy> yep
L312[10:50:11] <scj643> What time zone is the server setup to use
L313[10:50:12] <Lizzy> also may have maxed out athar int he process
L314[10:50:13] <Izaya> I should install that on asakura
L315[10:50:18] <S3> huh. So this polymer thing scj643
L316[10:50:23] <Lizzy> scj643: err, either gmt or paris
L317[10:50:24] <scj643> Yea
L318[10:50:31] <Izaya> 8-core Xeon to compress
L319[10:50:34] <Izaya> would kick ass
L320[10:50:42] <S3> scj643: this is not html..
L321[10:50:42] <scj643> Ok I have no clue how to tell the time on it
L322[10:50:49] <scj643> What is it then?
L323[10:50:50] <Lizzy> scj643: date
L324[10:51:02] <Lizzy> litterally type that in bash
L325[10:51:20] <S3> scj643: I'm asking you :P
L326[10:51:31] * Izaya uses his local time for servers
L327[10:51:39] <S3> unless dom-module is some tag I have never heard of
L328[10:51:40] <scj643> I don't know exactly what it is
L329[10:51:44] <S3> and template
L330[10:51:49] <Lizzy> Izaya: i use the local time or GMT for my servers
L331[10:52:01] <Lizzy> by local time i mean the server's local time
L332[10:52:19] <scj643> Each
L333[10:52:40] <scj643> Is their a way I can have the server use est for its logs
L334[10:52:58] <Lizzy> you could try settting the timezone for the server
L335[10:53:19] <Lizzy> not sure if you can set the actual time itself though or if that's tied with the host (i.e. Athar)
L336[10:53:30] <scj643> Time is a bios thing
L337[10:53:41] <Lizzy> RTC*
L338[10:53:43] <scj643> Probably the bios has utc
L339[10:54:00] <Izaya> that just stores the time while the computer is off
L340[10:54:19] <Izaya> unixes use GMT or whatever
L341[10:54:30] <scj643> Thought they used UTC
L342[10:54:30] <Izaya> Windows uses local time because There Is Nothing But Windows
L343[10:54:40] <scj643> I have windows using UTC
L344[10:54:44] <Lizzy> UTC and GMT are the same
L345[10:54:48] <Izaya> GMT and UTC are basically the same thing
L346[10:54:53] <Izaya> there are some minor technical differences
L347[10:54:59] <Izaya> but it's effectively the same
L348[10:55:07] <Lizzy> just Americans didn't like calling default times after a place in England or something
L349[10:55:13] <gamax92> GMT == UTC but GMT !== UTC ?
L350[10:55:24] <Lizzy> or is UTC french?
L351[10:55:37] <Izaya> IIRC UTC was a compromise
L352[10:55:39] <Lizzy> cause it actually stands for Universal Cordinated Time
L353[10:55:41] <S3> Greenwich
L354[10:55:44] <Lizzy> ^
L355[10:55:47] <Lizzy> for GMT
L356[10:55:54] <Izaya> French wanted one word order
L357[10:55:57] <Izaya> English wanted another
L358[10:55:59] <Lizzy> Greenwich Mean Time
L359[10:56:06] <S3> we should all just start using NET
L360[10:56:07] <Izaya> so they went with one that makes no sense whatsoever
L361[10:56:19] <S3> http://newearthtime.net/
L362[10:56:21] <S3> NET^
L363[10:56:23] <scj643> sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
L364[10:56:30] <scj643> Changes time zone on server
L365[10:56:33] <Lizzy> ah
L366[10:56:54] <Lizzy> anyway, home time
L367[10:56:59] <S3> if we used NET then I could use a unit circle for my clock
L368[10:57:21] <S3> what time is it? 5pi/3 radians
L369[10:57:30] <S3> er
L370[10:57:40] <S3> pi/3
L371[10:57:43] <Izaya> rm /etc/localtime && ln -s /etc/zoneinfo/reigon/timezone /etc/localtime
L372[10:57:47] <Izaya> ^reconfigure time on arch
L373[10:57:58] <S3> well it could be 5pi/3
L374[10:58:05] <S3> it would almost be 2pi
L375[10:58:26] <scj643> My mc server didn't panic
L376[10:58:38] <S3> should it?
L377[10:58:52] <Izaya> gmt -> america is going back im time
L378[10:59:00] <Izaya> in*
L379[10:59:11] <Izaya> so the MC server is suddenly fuckloads of ticks ahead :D
L380[10:59:16] <scj643> Yeah my logs are now in EST
L381[10:59:27] * Izaya uses AEST
L382[10:59:33] <scj643> It wouldn't be able to because time was going backwards
L383[10:59:47] <Izaya> oh yeah Lizzy, that arch disk image has a default timezone of AEST with no DST
L384[10:59:50] <Izaya> wait with DST
L385[10:59:53] <S3> AEST>?
L386[10:59:55] <Izaya> not in queensland any morwe
L387[10:59:59] <S3> whats the A for
L388[11:00:01] <Izaya> Australian Eastern Standard Time
L389[11:00:06] <scj643> Lol
L390[11:00:08] <S3> wait what
L391[11:00:35] <Noob> Another off-topic question, does any mod provide something like "currency coin"? I remember IndustrialCraft2 had IC Credits and they were quite handy for "economics" imitations, but IC2 is dead so.. ._.
L392[11:00:47] <gamax92> ic2 is dead?
L393[11:00:48] <gamax92> are you on crack
L394[11:01:03] <Izaya> IC2 experimental is in a 'no bugfixes' state
L395[11:01:08] <scj643> http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/ubuntu-openstack
L396[11:01:09] <S3> apparently suberia ignores EAST
L397[11:01:34] <gamax92> Izaya: what really?
L398[11:01:40] <Izaya> well
L399[11:01:41] <S3> australians are the only ones using aest..
L400[11:01:47] <Noob> I mean IC2 is in rather "life support" state rather than developing and active mod, besides when I install IC2 my FPS drops by 20-30 frames at least
L401[11:01:50] <Izaya> I tried a build a while ago
L402[11:01:55] <Izaya> and it had a bug
L403[11:02:00] <Izaya> tried again like 3 months later
L404[11:02:02] <Izaya> still same bug
L405[11:02:08] <Izaya> relatively major, too.
L406[11:02:25] <S3> you know we should get rid of the damn time zones, they are unnecessary
L407[11:02:34] <gamax92> I see.
L408[11:02:37] <Izaya> everyone should use GMT/UTC
L409[11:02:38] <S3> we should be using a dynamic time now that we have the technology
L410[11:02:51] <gamax92> Izaya: nah I'm fine with my times.
L411[11:02:56] <S3> time doesn't just go from 1 am to 2 am if you walk 3 feet on the earth between the zones
L412[11:03:05] <S3> every inch you wealk changes your time in relativity
L413[11:03:31] <gamax92> Think about it, if you move somewhere, and are used to waking up at X time as the sun is at Y degrees
L414[11:03:54] <Noob> Besides everyone is using RF so theres not much point in using EU powersystem anymore
L415[11:04:06] <gamax92> yeaaah ...
L416[11:04:30] <S3> I was thinking the other day of making a mod for MC for more realistic elecricity
L417[11:04:45] <Noob> (Don't take me wrong, I loved IC2 back in old days but it's been like 3 years since mod had anything added/changed and it's only being ported/bugfixed right now, not really developed anymore)
L418[11:05:34] <scj643> Railcraft still haven't added rf carts
L419[11:05:38] <scj643> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack
L420[11:05:41] <Noob> They did
L421[11:05:42] <S3> in which to get the most out of your immersive engineering power lines, you will have to run a ground wire and as many wires at the perfect phase shift to produce the required voltage. i.e., two phase systems- you need 3 wires, 1 ground, 2 @ say 120V, 180 degrees out of phase with eachother, they go into a transformer and you can pull 210 or 120 volts out of it
L422[11:05:50] <S3> theres also 3 and more phase setups
L423[11:05:56] <Noob> There's RF->Charge convertor block
L424[11:06:06] <Noob> That pretty much makes "RF carts"
L425[11:06:42] <Lizzy> I am a fucking moron today
L426[11:06:49] <Noob> S3, isn't electrical age is about that thing?
L427[11:07:21] <scj643> No it isn't the same thing
L428[11:07:46] <scj643> Ic2 carts are the only energy storage carts
L429[11:08:04] <S3> Noob: I have no idea
L430[11:08:23] <Noob> Speaking of realistic power systems, i pretty much liked EU. It wasn't too realistic but it was neither too simple like RF. Unfortunately when I spoke with team cofh guys in IRC they said they won't make RF like EU because it would pretty much bring all the lags ._.
L431[11:08:27] <S3> Noob: I also thoight of using some of my calculus based physics to allow you to have magnetic charges
L432[11:08:51] <S3> so that you could create wireless communication by modulating your current
L433[11:08:57] <gamax92> redpower2
L434[11:08:58] <S3> or something
L435[11:09:02] <scj643> What are people's thoughts of open stack
L436[11:09:27] <gamax92> bbl
L437[11:09:36] <Noob> S3, I believe that Electrical Age has everything you've listed, not sure about if it's enough realistic, but check it out anyways
L438[11:09:55] <Izaya> >at least 7 machines
L439[11:09:56] <Izaya> dude
L440[11:10:02] <Izaya> I can have virtualization and containers in one
L441[11:10:11] <Izaya> running a fairly heavy debian system
L442[11:10:17] <Vexatos> https://github.com/Vexatos/ForecastersBackpacks/issues/1
L443[11:10:21] <Vexatos> is there anything I missed?
L444[11:10:42] <vifino> Uh, shit.
L445[11:10:43] <Noob> gamax92: I wish redpower2 existed for 1.7.10. Project Red does, but energy system isn't coming there anytime soon as one of it's developers said ._.
L446[11:10:52] <Izaya> S3, how's BSD for virtualization, by the way?
L447[11:11:20] <scj643> https://github.com/ilearnstack/cloudgear
L448[11:11:22] <vifino> Could someone, like, cross compile me liquidsoap for the raspberry pi 2 running arch? armv7h..
L449[11:11:33] <scj643> That lets you run Ubuntu open stack on one VM
L450[11:11:36] <S3> for FreeBSD, Bhyve is coming along, and Xen dom0 support recently made it into the kernel (Not stable)
L451[11:11:46] <S3> NetBSD has had Xen dom0 support for a very long time
L452[11:11:53] <Noob> gamax92: Eloraam decided to go full hipster and make her own MC with redpower2
L453[11:11:55] <Izaya> scj643, but why not just qemu/kvm/libvirt?
L454[11:12:06] <Izaya> Like sure OpenStack is cool
L455[11:12:15] <Izaya> but it's not practical unless you have a sizable infrastructure
L456[11:12:29] <S3> erlangonxen is cool
L457[11:12:30] <scj643> Open stack lets an admin easily spin up a virtual network
L458[11:12:39] <S3> it lets you spawn 100s of thousands of erlang powered xen vms
L459[11:12:44] <scj643> And machines on that network
L460[11:12:45] <S3> very tiny
L461[11:12:53] <scj643> And networking gear on that network
L462[11:13:01] <S3> they take like, single digit ms to boot and shutdown
L463[11:13:18] <Noob> vifino: Hm I only have rpi1 crosscompiler ._. But RPi2 got common ARMv7 architecture AFAIK, so you could setup cross-compiler easily
L464[11:13:30] <S3> http://erlangonxen.org/
L465[11:13:51] <Izaya> scj643, http://i.imgur.com/csfFAIZ.png single-machine virtual network
L466[11:14:17] <scj643> Oh didn't know that it had a UI
L467[11:14:18] <Izaya> No Ubuntu needed
L468[11:14:18] <S3> lol.. vifino I could also write an erlangonxen ATM / STM switch too :)
L469[11:14:23] <S3> for layer 1 which I would use
L470[11:14:34] <S3> because erlang is extremely useful for one thing:
L471[11:14:43] <S3> building telecom networks that are very fast and scalable
L472[11:14:44] <vifino> Just erlang, not erlangonxen.
L473[11:14:58] <S3> I would definately use erlangonxen as well
L474[11:15:04] <vifino> I'm not gonna deploy xen.
L475[11:15:07] <S3> :)
L476[11:15:18] <S3> well you can run it without xen
L477[11:15:41] <S3> it's just that if you -have- xen then you can run thousands of channels at the same time in tiny little ipv6 powered VMs
L478[11:15:44] <S3> or something
L479[11:16:17] <S3> maybe itl be an excuse for me to finally learn Erlang
L480[11:16:41] <S3> I have never had a need for it
L481[11:16:45] <vifino> Noob: Could you try to help me with my problem? Because I can't build liquidsoap on my pi without maaayor troubles.
L482[11:17:35] <vifino> S3: Even I know a bit of erlang.
L483[11:17:41] <Lizzy> scj643: your VPS is done through libvirt
L484[11:17:45] <vifino> Elixir is much nicer though.
L485[11:18:57] <CompanionCube> Izaya, devstack's also a thing
L486[11:19:34] <CompanionCube> 'Only Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty), Fedora 21 (or Fedora 22) and CentOS/RHEL 7 are documented here. OpenStack also runs and is packaged on other flavors of Linux such as OpenSUSE and Debian.'
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L488[11:25:14] <Lizzy> Today can be summarised into the groan Kiff from Futurama makes when Zapp says something dumb
L489[11:25:24] <kjack1111> Has anyone seen MajGenRelativity?
L490[11:25:27] <kjack1111> :c
L491[11:25:44] <Lizzy> Nope
L492[11:26:00] <kjack1111> i need his pack update.
L493[11:26:19] <Lizzy> %seen MajGenRelativity
L494[11:26:20] <MichiBot> Lizzy: MajGenRelativity was last seen 2d 18h 7m 31s ago.
L495[11:26:38] <kjack1111> oh...
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L497[11:28:22] <Izaya> does Intel even make single-core CPUs any more?
L498[11:28:32] <Izaya> Does anyone aside from VIA make single-core CPUs?
L499[11:28:33] <Lizzy> Doubt it
L500[11:29:38] <CompanionCube> why would anyone bother
L501[11:29:47] <S3> uh
L502[11:29:51] <S3> wow.
L503[11:29:52] <kjack1111> what?
L504[11:29:54] <kjack1111> hahhaha
L505[11:29:57] <kjack1111> you are so funny
L506[11:30:04] <kjack1111> aresian 8-core cpu
L507[11:30:08] <kjack1111> 's
L508[11:30:11] <kjack1111> are the way to go
L509[11:30:23] <Izaya> just a point of curiosity
L510[11:30:24] <S3> no wow because southern Maine just flooded
L511[11:30:31] <Noob> vifino: I could, but as I said I have only RPi1 cross-compiler
L512[11:30:36] <S3> which is extremely rare
L513[11:30:42] <Izaya> was about to make a joke about not worrying about pigz because single-core
L514[11:30:59] <Izaya> then I realised the only single-core machines I have that work are the VIA C3 and my old P4 desktop
L515[11:31:19] <S3> the water level was raised real high from the rain
L516[11:31:22] <S3> and then the tide came in
L517[11:31:42] <vifino> Noob: :(
L518[11:31:57] <S3> sucks because that salt water is getting into everyones car
L519[11:32:02] <Izaya> vifino, why will building it locally cause issues?
L520[11:32:30] <vifino> Izaya: Because stuff be bork.
L521[11:32:31] <Inari> is compareTo broken or something?
L522[11:33:10] <Lizzy> Izaya,I wonder how fast one of the latest 36 core-72 threads Xeons would compress stuff with pigz
L523[11:33:31] <Izaya> Lizzy, they have slower clock speeds though
L524[11:33:34] <Inari> for some reason compareTo goldnugget wiht goldnugget returns false
L525[11:33:44] <Lizzy> Combined with a dual cpu board and pci-e ssd
L526[11:34:05] <Izaya> that's like
L527[11:34:15] <Izaya> #lua 72*2
L528[11:34:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 144
L529[11:34:19] <Izaya> 144 threads
L530[11:35:08] <vifino> thats around the ammount of cores power8 machines have
L531[11:35:26] <Izaya> they have like 128 right?
L532[11:35:33] <vifino> more.
L533[11:35:33] <Izaya> and is Power8 related to PPC?
L534[11:36:02] <vifino> 176 cores
L535[11:36:07] <vifino> er, threads
L536[11:36:08] <Izaya> ... wow
L537[11:36:16] <Izaya> imagine htop on one of those
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L540[11:37:06] <Izaya> Lizzy, mind setting airi.shadowkat.science as the RDNS?
L541[11:37:08] <vifino> Izaya: http://dachary.org/wp-uploads/2014/11/make-j-150.png
L542[11:37:26] <Izaya> that seems somewhat impractical
L543[11:37:35] <Izaya> but it would make a hell of a wallpaper
L544[11:37:48] <Izaya> with that many cores
L545[11:37:54] <vifino> https://community.runabove.com/kb/images/2014-10-06-power8/htop.png
L546[11:37:55] <Lizzy> Izaya will do when pc boots
L547[11:37:56] <Izaya> maybe you could install gentoo in under a week
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L549[11:38:28] <vifino> Izaya: Yeah, probably, after all you could compile the universe in a day on that thing.
L550[11:40:07] <Izaya> anyway
L551[11:40:11] <Izaya> I have an hour to kill
L552[11:40:15] <Izaya> while this uploads
L553[11:40:18] <Izaya> I'm gonna have a shower
L554[11:40:25] <Izaya> then play Minecraft for an hour
L555[11:40:29] <Izaya> then sleep
L556[11:41:07] <S3> yeah I think Erlang is definately the way to go
L557[11:41:21] <S3> for the layer 1 stuff
L558[11:41:22] <Lizzy> Is there any DE that support multimonitor well?
L559[11:41:47] <S3> I always thought they all pretty much did
L560[11:41:55] <S3> it was always more of an X issue with me
L561[11:42:30] <Lizzy> Eh, I'd like to get panels on both my monitors but can only do it on one with MATE
L562[11:42:32] <Izaya> Lizzy, XFCE
L563[11:42:41] <Izaya> I have my panel streched across 3
L564[11:42:50] <Lizzy> Izaya, hmm
L565[11:42:58] <Inari> i dont get compareTo <.<
L566[11:43:04] <Izaya> plus it's super-customisable
L567[11:43:31] <Lizzy> Izaya does it support GTK themes?
L568[11:43:46] <scj643> https://github.com/PolymerElements/polymer-starter-kit#getting-started
L569[11:43:47] <Izaya> yeah
L570[11:43:48] <Inari> compareTo breaks when used against the last row of slots
L571[11:43:48] <Inari> gg
L572[11:43:54] <Izaya> It's written in gtk2
L573[11:43:56] <Izaya> well
L574[11:44:03] <Izaya> it's written on top of gtk2
L575[11:44:18] <Lizzy> will have to try it properly on my desktop at some point
L576[11:44:19] <Inari> ah
L577[11:44:22] <Inari> was already reported
L578[11:45:24] <Lizzy> grr, for some reason when X first starts up only the window that has focus responds to mouse inputs. i have to go to a tty then back to the X display for it to work properly
L579[11:45:40] <vifino> o.o
L580[11:45:44] <CompanionCube> Xfce is a very nice, lightweight desktop
L581[11:45:46] <CompanionCube> Very stable.
L582[11:45:52] <Lizzy> I know that's not a multiple monitor issue cause it was doing it when i only had one
L583[11:47:37] * Lizzy screams
L584[11:47:50] <Lizzy> why can i not type my password first time anymore
L585[11:48:18] * vifino curls up on Lizzy
L586[11:48:36] <Lizzy> PHONE SHUT THE FUCK UP
L587[11:49:42] <Lizzy> Izaya, done the rDNS
L588[11:49:59] <Lizzy> oh shit here comes Antheus
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L594[12:04:25] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYVBshcN7wU
L595[12:04:28] <MichiBot> Lizzy: I Know What You Did Five Minutes Ago | length: 5m 31s | Likes: 3349 Dislikes: 40 Views: 221220 | by Tom Scott
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L600[12:12:11] <S3> ok
L601[12:12:18] <S3> what should we call the MC arpanet
L602[12:15:06] <Izaya> SRPANET
L603[12:15:21] <Izaya> Simple Research Projects Association Network
L604[12:15:31] <vifino> pootisnet
L605[12:16:10] <Izaya> no
L606[12:16:11] <Izaya> call it
L607[12:16:13] <Izaya> the metaverse
L608[12:16:37] * Izaya nods
L609[12:16:41] <CompanionCube> call it OCRANET?
L610[12:16:43] <Izaya> 100% not my fault if you get sued
L611[12:16:50] <S3> I'd like to know how vifino came up with pootisnet, but I do like metaverse or OCRANET
L612[12:17:34] <vifino> can't. answer. must. build. liquidsoap.
L613[12:17:42] <S3> LOL
L614[12:17:49] <S3> OCRANET looks quite professional
L615[12:17:59] <Izaya> can it tunnel over TCP?
L616[12:18:00] <S3> what's the RA for?
L617[12:18:03] <S3> yes.
L618[12:18:10] <Izaya> Research Association
L619[12:18:16] <S3> Izaya: in fact it has to to reach layer 1 from Minecraft
L620[12:18:19] <Izaya> vifino, https://xkcd.com/456/
L621[12:18:29] <S3> Layer1 <--> layer1 comms are UDP
L622[12:18:31] <Izaya> do you have a proper spec for it?
L623[12:18:41] <CompanionCube> RA is...whatever you make of it
L624[12:18:42] <Inari> meh, i hate when today becomes waiting for tomorrow to come
L625[12:18:54] <S3> I can write one down, but it is just ATM over STM with just a few changes
L626[12:19:04] <S3> and STM can be shut off
L627[12:19:20] <vifino> Inari: Yes, that is what happened.
L628[12:19:20] <S3> but STM will give you a difference of like.. 200 KB speed.
L629[12:19:26] <vifino> GOD DANG IT WEECHAT
L630[12:19:30] <vifino> aunwdjawbkjnafaw
L631[12:19:38] <Inari> vifino: hm?
L632[12:19:46] <S3> vifino: I got tired of weechat while trying to figure out how to connect to a server with it.
L633[12:19:50] <S3> So I went back to irssi
L634[12:19:50] <vifino> Inari: ignooore
L635[12:19:55] <Inari> wat
L636[12:20:01] <vifino> S3: scrub.
L637[12:20:03] <CompanionCube> STM = Super Terrific Mode
L638[12:20:03] <Inari> vifino: stop with the cookies
L639[12:20:05] <CompanionCube> just joking
L640[12:20:12] <S3> sigh...
L641[12:20:14] <vifino> Inari: D: never
L642[12:20:17] <Inari> or muffins
L643[12:20:26] <S3> Asynchronous Transfer Mode over Synchronous Transfer Mode
L644[12:20:28] * CompanionCube knows it's really Synchronous Transfer MOde
L645[12:20:39] * Izaya grabs a drink and prepares to dive into the RFC
L646[12:20:41] <S3> STM improves our bandwidth for trunks, ATM gives us our routing.
L647[12:20:57] <S3> and I mean seriously improves.. lemme do the math
L648[12:21:22] <S3> with just ATM we get 1.06KB/s
L649[12:21:24] <S3> in MC
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L651[12:21:58] <S3> by sitting ATM on top of ATM we get 160KB/s
L652[12:22:20] <S3> so turning of ATM is really only useful if you're weird.
L653[12:22:28] <S3> turning off STM *
L654[12:22:53] <S3> this is all pretty much because of the relay's packet/s limitations
L655[12:22:58] <S3> and STM will send 8KB packets
L656[12:23:08] <S3> ATM cells are only 53 bytes.
L657[12:23:08] <Izaya> can we do like
L658[12:23:13] <Izaya> interface teaming?
L659[12:23:19] <S3> What do you mean?
L660[12:23:24] <Izaya> using a normal LAN card and a spoofing card?
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L662[12:23:32] <Izaya> to get double the bandwidth?
L663[12:23:39] <S3> Oh, you mean Link Aggregation?
L664[12:23:39] <Izaya> wait the speed limits
L665[12:23:53] <Izaya> are from OC computers only doing 20 operations/sec
L666[12:24:01] <S3> It would be difficult to do with ATM, but why do you need more than 160KB/s?
L667[12:24:02] <S3> :)
L668[12:24:17] <Izaya> because real-time audio streaming
L669[12:24:39] <S3> in MC?
L670[12:24:45] <S3> that sounds like a bad idea
L671[12:24:56] <S3> ATM already sort of fakes link aggregation
L672[12:25:00] <Izaya> I need like 4KiB/s for audio at standard quality
L673[12:25:00] <S3> STM*
L674[12:25:11] <S3> well lets see
L675[12:25:51] <S3> in reality Izaya
L676[12:26:24] <S3> STM allows us for like, up to 160 concurrent ATM packets to be sent at the same time
L677[12:26:27] <S3> each being 1KB/s
L678[12:26:35] <S3> each a different connection
L679[12:26:41] <S3> remember this is circuit switching
L680[12:26:45] <S3> so what you could do Izaya
L681[12:26:51] <S3> if you need 4KB/s
L682[12:27:01] <Izaya> 4 connections
L683[12:27:08] <S3> is tie down 4 or 5 cables as if you were using a T1
L684[12:27:09] <S3> yeah
L685[12:27:12] <Izaya> so do you have code for this stuff?
L686[12:27:23] <S3> not yet. Trying to work out all of the bugs
L687[12:27:28] <S3> so we can do this right the first time
L688[12:27:31] <Izaya> that gives you the ability to use 40 different clients
L689[12:27:35] <S3> I'm getting real close to actually writing some code
L690[12:27:42] <Izaya> I see.
L691[12:27:59] <Izaya> I'll see if I can impliment it for OC-ITS when I work out how events work with the scheduler
L692[12:28:05] <S3> I don't want to end up halfway in and be like shit I gotta redo this a different way
L693[12:28:16] <S3> well to make link aggregation work like a T1
L694[12:28:32] <S3> we need to figure out how you can take your ATM connected machine and tie down 4 1KB streams into one 4KB one
L695[12:28:44] <S3> if it means modifying the protocol slightly I will do it
L696[12:28:51] <S3> because that's a nice feature.
L697[12:29:30] <Lizzy> \o/ internet is being PoS
L698[12:29:31] <Izaya> 'cause what you can actually do with tape drives
L699[12:29:52] <S3> is read the sound as data?
L700[12:29:58] <Izaya> is rewind, rewrite, rewind again, leave it
L701[12:30:13] <S3> can you send the sound data directly to the drive and not the tape?
L702[12:30:15] <S3> to play it
L703[12:30:19] <Izaya> nope
L704[12:30:24] <Izaya> you have to abuse the way tapes are read
L705[12:30:29] <S3> kind of like how those old cassette tape adaptors worked, I see
L706[12:30:39] <Izaya> you have like a second before the next thing of data is read
L707[12:30:46] <Izaya> so if you re-wind first
L708[12:31:05] <Izaya> it plays the same part of the tape
L709[12:31:13] <Izaya> with different data
L710[12:31:28] <S3> oh?
L711[12:31:44] <S3> so you can just write to the tape in small chunks
L712[12:31:46] <S3> and be fast enough
L713[12:31:53] <S3> that it doesn't pop or click?
L714[12:32:02] <Izaya> except at standard quality
L715[12:32:08] <Izaya> it's 4096 bytes per second
L716[12:32:10] <S3> meh
L717[12:32:18] <Izaya> and it reads in 1 second chunks
L718[12:32:25] <S3> so you would want to have 5 lines
L719[12:32:28] <S3> at least
L720[12:32:36] <S3> and the listening computer would need 5 lines
L721[12:32:37] <Izaya> you can of course
L722[12:32:40] <Izaya> go for half-quality
L723[12:33:06] <Izaya> 2048 bytes/sec
L724[12:33:17] <S3> maybe we should do this
L725[12:33:28] <S3> for example in OCBSD or OpenOS or whatever
L726[12:33:34] <S3> you have your ATM interface
L727[12:33:44] <S3> maybe you can make a "channel collection"
L728[12:33:56] <S3> but the problem is it has to work on the other end
L729[12:34:20] <S3> so maybe I can make it so that your local ISP person in MC
L730[12:34:27] <S3> can give you x ammount of lines on request
L731[12:34:36] <S3> and you can tie them together how you want
L732[12:34:38] <S3> if you have 5 of em
L733[12:34:42] <Lizzy> why does my computer have 192.168.0.13 and 192.168.0.222 IPv4 addresses....
L734[12:34:43] <S3> you can have 3 tied together
L735[12:34:47] <S3> and 2 tied together
L736[12:34:53] <S3> for a 3KB and a 2KB line
L737[12:35:17] <S3> curious though how that would work out
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L739[12:35:31] <Izaya> maybe like
L740[12:35:45] <S3> with ethernet you can use "master and slave" trunks.
L741[12:35:51] <Izaya> have the end-user program create more circuits?
L742[12:36:04] <Lizzy> S3, was the ethernet thing in response to me?
L743[12:36:30] <S3> right and that's what I figure. however, the switch you are connected to at the ISP or whatever has to know that you are tying them together
L744[12:36:35] <S3> otherwise itl forma new conenction for each
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L746[12:36:40] <S3> Lizzy: no whats up
L747[12:36:47] <Lizzy> oh, dont worry
L748[12:37:08] <S3> I'm just babbling with Izaya
L749[12:37:08] <S3> lol
L750[12:37:34] <Izaya> couldn't you just
L751[12:37:37] <Izaya> make virtual connections
L752[12:37:44] <Izaya> using a number of other connections?
L753[12:37:49] <Izaya> on each end?
L754[12:37:49] <S3> I think I know what I will do
L755[12:38:07] <S3> something like that &
L756[12:38:09] <S3> ^
L757[12:38:22] <Izaya> also ATM frames are 53 bytes, right?
L758[12:38:28] <S3> yes
L759[12:38:31] <Izaya> >:)
L760[12:38:32] <Lizzy> AHA i found where my computer gets the extra ip from
L761[12:38:37] <S3> ?
L762[12:38:41] <S3> the payload is 48
L763[12:38:50] <S3> the header on an ATM cell is just 5 bytes
L764[12:38:54] <gamax92> secretly your computer has a rootkit module installed
L765[12:38:55] <S3> making it very useful for us, less overhead
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L767[12:39:10] <CompanionCube> Izaya, iirc AAL5 will be supported
L768[12:39:10] <Izaya> so I had this great idea about how to transfer data between MC servers:
L769[12:39:15] <Izaya> IRC!
L770[12:39:20] <S3> ...
L771[12:39:23] <CompanionCube> allowing for payloads up to ~64k
L772[12:39:27] <Izaya> hear me out
L773[12:39:38] <Lizzy> \o/ my computer only has 1 IPv4 address now
L774[12:39:46] <gamax92> Lizzy: what if you got rid of the wrong one
L775[12:39:52] <Izaya> so you could send to an address which is actually a nick
L776[12:39:58] <Lizzy> gamax92, i got rid of the right one
L777[12:40:02] <Izaya> you could even do multicast
L778[12:40:16] <Izaya> and you could have an IRC server for each MC serveer
L779[12:40:18] <S3> Lizzy: if it confuses the heck out of you for fun my server doesn't have any IP address on eth0, and eth0 is the only outside interface.
L780[12:40:24] <S3> :>
L781[12:40:43] <Izaya> meaning local connections are faster but extended-connections still work
L782[12:40:54] <Lizzy> eh, not really. what was confusing me is where it was getting this extra address from
L783[12:41:04] <tiin57> Izaya: That's insane.
L784[12:41:14] <Lizzy> I think it was some settings left over from Cinnamon's network config tool
L785[12:41:17] <Izaya> tiin57, I'm insane
L786[12:41:35] <S3> that sounds... absolute hackery
L787[12:41:40] <Izaya> but hey, I intend to impliment it at some point
L788[12:41:43] <Izaya> dunno when
L789[12:41:45] <Izaya> but some time
L790[12:42:11] <S3> sounds hard to manage
L791[12:42:23] <S3> for scalability
L792[12:42:39] <Izaya> well we could have a custom protocol
L793[12:42:44] <Izaya> but then we could also not
L794[12:43:20] <Lizzy> %p
L795[12:43:22] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Lizzy 1.14s
L796[12:43:25] <Lizzy> oh wow
L797[12:43:29] <S3> ATM will give us PNNI which is like OSPF and AAL5 for reliability. It also gives us tiered networks without me implementing the code for it pretty much
L798[12:43:43] <Lizzy> hexchat stayed connected even though... wait nvm
L799[12:43:53] <S3> unless you're streaming audio from tape Izaya
L800[12:44:01] <S3> I doubt anyone will need more than 1KB/s
L801[12:44:06] <S3> or 2
L802[12:44:21] <Izaya> yeah
L803[12:44:25] <Lizzy> was about to say that hexchat stayed connected when my local ip4 changed but then i realised it's using janus' ipv6 address which the internal one didn't change
L804[12:44:28] <Izaya> basically the only reason you'd need >1KB/s
L805[12:44:39] <S3> because if you'tre connecting to websites and stuff you'll just use the internet card to connect to a website or some stuff
L806[12:44:48] <S3> you won't tunnel it through the OCRANET
L807[12:45:13] <S3> the point of the OCRANET is to build a nice packet switched circuit switching network to connect Minecraft servers together
L808[12:45:31] <S3> setting up computers would be simple
L809[12:45:45] <gamax92> brb, gonna go try to track down the location of a wifi hotspot
L810[12:45:47] <Skye> S3, what is the addressing scheme
L811[12:45:52] <gamax92> so i can be right next to it
L812[12:46:37] <Lizzy> brb, seeing if there's dinner
L813[12:46:41] <S3> Skye: not 100% decided, but it looks like we're using the ISDN addressing scheme, This is nice because it still gives your ISP the choice of how he uses that scheme
L814[12:46:55] <Skye> eh?
L815[12:46:58] <S3> layer 1 will be using 2 digit dientifiers.
L816[12:47:15] <S3> that's up to 100 of those, way more than enough, and are equivilent to country codes.
L817[12:47:34] <S3> 00-99
L818[12:47:43] <Skye> UGHHHH
L819[12:47:54] <Skye> WHY
L820[12:47:54] <S3> Skye: this is standard
L821[12:48:01] <S3> and easy to manage
L822[12:48:07] <Izaya> use the first 2 didgits for servers?
L823[12:48:07] <Skye> minecraft is not real life
L824[12:48:32] <S3> the first two digits identifies the layer 2 which can be on a server or whatever.
L825[12:49:01] <S3> layer 1s will only really work correctly as global services. Mine will be in France
L826[12:49:23] <Skye> UGHHHH
L827[12:49:36] <Skye> Why do people tie things to countries.
L828[12:49:49] <S3> they aren't
L829[12:49:58] <S3> I said it is analogous to country codes.
L830[12:50:03] <S3> they are not country codes.
L831[12:50:27] <S3> also, I am building a website that will display an interactive, colorful map of our network
L832[12:50:34] <S3> so that you can explore it and use it
L833[12:50:43] <Skye> what happens when people clash?
L834[12:51:51] <S3> with addresses? the only way that can happen is if you have two people in the same layer and they disperse the same subnet, but this is a problem even in ethernet and the OCRANET network will not even allow it.
L835[12:51:59] <S3> because PNNI will be like, no.
L836[12:52:11] <S3> PNNI is what handles our dynamic routing
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L839[12:54:53] <S3> I do not expect many layers, but you can have as many as you can give our addresses. if you are the first layer 2, I will probably give you 00 or 01. this means all of your addresses start with 01. no other layer2 can give out addresses like that because PNNI will configure to route to 00 or 01 or whatever from my end, not yours. if you used single digit addresses then if you give somebody address 5 and you were 00 then their numbers would start with or their number woul
L840[12:55:00] <S3> it's that simple.
L841[12:55:10] <S3> I recommand splitting it up.
L842[12:55:13] <S3> like 00-5
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L844[12:55:45] <Skye> so you have a central core?
L845[12:55:53] <S3> in the meantime Izaya might have some good ideas about an OCRANET compatible DNS
L846[12:56:08] * CompanionCube has a half-assed DNS spec laying around
L847[12:56:30] <CompanionCube> I never specified an addressing format so
L848[12:56:35] <S3> it is a heiarchical tier. This is how enterprise ATM networks are almost always deployed.
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L850[12:56:45] <S3> it doesn't mean one machine is controlling you
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L853[12:56:55] <S3> it means that there is a top level "peer group"
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L856[12:57:03] <S3> sort of like ICANNs top level 6 or 7 DNS servers
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L863[12:57:16] <S3> Skye: if one goes down, the network can stay active :)
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L907[12:57:22] <TotallyNotKatie> %sed enable
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L915[12:57:51] <S3> most of the hard configuration will be done for you
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L920[12:58:02] <S3> all you have to do is wire it up, set some address rules
L921[12:58:03] <S3> and bam
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L923[12:58:06] <S3> you're ready to go
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L929[12:58:23] <Skye> S3, I wonder if I should design my own addressing system...
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L935[12:58:39] <S3> oddly enough Skye ATM supports more than one :)
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L937[12:58:44] <Izaya> Skye, if it worries you so much, write DNS
L938[12:58:48] <S3> and addresses are 20 bytes in ATM
L939[12:59:07] <CompanionCube> if it bother's yall
L940[12:59:12] <CompanionCube> this is a starting point: http://piratepad.net/AbKoU5oo36
L941[12:59:19] <Skye> My system would require arbitary length strings
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L945[12:59:43] <S3> Ethernet can be harder to sort of secure when it comes to tiering
L946[12:59:48] <CompanionCube> It's a thing I wrote aaages ago
L947[12:59:52] <CompanionCube> but never actually implemented
L948[13:00:14] <S3> plain text DNS?
L949[13:00:18] <S3> that sounds nice
L950[13:00:42] <S3> CompanionCube: looks protocol independent too
L951[13:00:43] <S3> :)
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L953[13:01:07] <CompanionCube> S3, I designed it with simplicity in mind
L954[13:01:17] <Skye> I want to make an addressing system where there are subaddressing syste,s
L955[13:01:44] <CompanionCube> (Magi6k implemented a realistic DNS system at one point, but it's more complex)
L956[13:02:05] <CompanionCube> (and involved multiple floppies)
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L959[13:02:50] <S3> Skye: when connecting multiple networks together, it is hard to be uncentralized at least a little
L960[13:02:56] <S3> decentralized*
L961[13:03:28] <S3> somebody has to decide where addresses are and if you are 100% decentralized two networks far apart from eachother could have the same addresses
L962[13:03:40] <Skye> that's why subaddressing would work
L963[13:03:50] <S3> that's what ISDN does
L964[13:04:06] <S3> the difference is it's a numbering scheme more appropriate for circuit switching which is what ATM is
L965[13:04:26] <S3> it doesn't matter if you use phone numbers or IP addresses
L966[13:04:28] <Lizzy_> yay netsplit
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L968[13:04:34] <S3> the concepts fo subnetting except the algorithms is still the same
L969[13:04:49] <S3> it becomes different with odd schemes like the sheme geermany used to use.. but
L970[13:05:00] <S3> where you hit 0 and it would climb a tier.
L971[13:05:12] * vifino hugs Lizzy
L972[13:05:14] <S3> but with data networks you don't need that
L973[13:05:20] * Lizzy hugs vifino
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L975[13:07:01] <S3> either way Skye, you're just breaking down numbers from a giant repository full of them
L976[13:07:10] <S3> you're making a hierarchical tree
L977[13:07:50] <Skye> my idea would be that networks would name themselves with UUIDS
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L979[13:09:07] <S3> as much as it's not, that's sort of what IPv6 is :)
L980[13:09:14] <CompanionCube> UUIDs are a PITA to use if you're not a computer
L981[13:09:21] <S3> I mean you have 16 byte addresses, and the machines usually give themselves IPs
L982[13:09:49] <S3> Skye: the mac address of the end computer is part of the ISDN address.
L983[13:09:53] <S3> it's just in the mac part
L984[13:10:11] <S3> the mac will not be 6 bytes, itl be 16 and the UUID of the computer
L985[13:10:20] <S3> sss
L986[13:10:47] <Lilly_Satou> kkk
L987[13:10:48] <S3> and then the last byte is the alias identifier which exists already in ATM
L988[13:10:50] <vifino> fff
L989[13:10:57] <S3> yeah my screen locked up
L990[13:10:58] <Lizzy> nnn
L991[13:11:04] <Izaya> cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk/jre/lib/amd64/headless/libmawt.so: libfontconfig.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
L992[13:11:06] <Lilly_Satou> ggg
L993[13:11:08] <Izaya> why does headless server
L994[13:11:16] <Izaya> need libfontconfig?
L995[13:11:41] <S3> what'd you do compile openjdk with X support?
L996[13:11:55] <S3> ...
L997[13:12:02] <S3> sounds lame
L998[13:12:07] <Izaya> pacman -S jdk7-openjdk
L999[13:12:20] <S3> see this is why binary packages suck
L1000[13:12:43] <S3> and people laugh at me for confuguring and compiling everything
L1001[13:12:51] <Izaya> well anyway
L1002[13:12:53] <Izaya> installed it
L1003[13:13:45] <CompanionCube> >headless
L1004[13:13:49] <CompanionCube> >requires fontconfig
L1005[13:13:56] <CompanionCube> someone is shit at naming here
L1006[13:13:57] <scj643> S3 can you sumurize the past hour for me
L1007[13:14:23] <scj643> S3 compiling isn't practical for me
L1008[13:14:28] <S3> scj643: I blarghed about ATM and Skye was freaking out about using phone number like addresses and now we're here.
L1009[13:14:41] <scj643> Dual core 2.2 ghz pentium 4gb ram
L1010[13:14:50] <CompanionCube> just implement a DNS and you're good to gp
L1011[13:14:54] <gamax92> Well ...
L1012[13:15:00] <gamax92> it went up from 76 to 85
L1013[13:15:02] <S3> CompanionCube: that's what I was sayin
L1014[13:15:04] <gamax92> so I got closer i guess
L1015[13:15:08] <scj643> Also when you talk ATM do you mean the thing you get money out of?
L1016[13:15:10] <S3> and everyone else
L1017[13:15:14] <CompanionCube> scj643, no
L1018[13:15:20] <CompanionCube> he means Asynchronous Transfer Mode
L1019[13:15:22] <S3> scj643: that'd be a fast money machine
L1020[13:15:25] <scj643> Oh wait that automated transaction machine
L1021[13:15:26] <CompanionCube> a network protocol
L1022[13:15:54] <gamax92> ...
L1023[13:15:57] <S3> scj643: teller, not transaction
L1024[13:16:03] <gamax92> "compiling isn't practical for me"
L1025[13:16:07] <scj643> Automated teller machine :(
L1026[13:16:10] <gamax92> "dual core 2.2 ghz pentium 4gb ram"
L1027[13:16:14] <CompanionCube> gamax92, it's true though
L1028[13:16:20] <gamax92> FUCK YOU BITCH I COMPILE ENTIRE KERNELS ON A 66MHZ MACHINE
L1029[13:16:21] <CompanionCube> some packages are ramfuckers to compile
L1030[13:16:24] <CompanionCube> see: Chromium
L1031[13:16:28] <scj643> Compiling Java would kill me
L1032[13:16:34] <S3> ok IU need to go pick up homeworks
L1033[13:16:42] <gamax92> ehh, I've also done java in 4gb's of ram
L1034[13:16:53] <gamax92> haven't tried chromium though
L1035[13:16:57] <S3> by the way guys, the quinne mccluskey method is so frigging simple of an algorithm. If you like messing with circuits, check it out
L1036[13:16:57] <scj643> On a 2.2 ghz dual core pentium
L1037[13:17:03] <CompanionCube> gamax92, it needs multiple gigabytes
L1038[13:17:05] <CompanionCube> to link
L1039[13:17:11] <scj643> That turns itself into a heater
L1040[13:17:20] <gamax92> well yes, it's a pentium :P
L1041[13:17:40] <gamax92> gotta wait until the winter time to compile stuffs
L1042[13:17:41] <scj643> Are all pentiums made to run hot
L1043[13:17:44] <S3> yes but its not a 66Mhz K5 or whatever gamax92 has
L1044[13:17:52] <gamax92> not K5
L1045[13:17:56] <S3> no?
L1046[13:18:00] <CompanionCube> Memory space
L1047[13:18:00] <CompanionCube> It takes about 8GB of swap file to link chromium and its tests. If you get an out-of-memory error during the final link, you will need to add swap space with swapon. It�s recommended to have at least 4GB of memory available for building a statically linked debug build. Dynamic linking and/or building a release build lowers memory requirements. People with less than 8GB of memory may want to not build tests since they are quite large.
L1048[13:18:10] <S3> 8080?
L1049[13:18:14] <S3> er
L1050[13:18:15] <S3> 8086
L1051[13:18:25] <CompanionCube> S3, no
L1052[13:18:26] <gamax92> 486
L1053[13:18:27] <S3> 8080 was 5Mhz
L1054[13:18:28] <CompanionCube> Z80
L1055[13:18:34] <gamax92> 4.77
L1056[13:18:36] <scj643> TI 8x
L1057[13:18:39] <S3> your 486 is only 66? I thought those were like 166Mhz
L1058[13:18:42] <CompanionCube> or maybe an Intel 4004
L1059[13:18:47] <S3> Maybe I'm thinking of K6
L1060[13:18:49] <gamax92> it has a DX2 chip
L1061[13:18:57] <scj643> Only if it was 404 :D
L1062[13:18:58] <gamax92> some go up to that speed though
L1063[13:19:10] <CompanionCube> gamax92, you can't possibly have a 486
L1064[13:19:17] <gamax92> I can possibly have a 486 :D
L1065[13:19:24] <CompanionCube> are you using the 486
L1066[13:19:31] <gamax92> not atm
L1067[13:19:35] <scj643> I would have to get some external storage to use as swap to compile chromium
L1068[13:19:39] <Izaya> anyone for some MC?
L1069[13:19:44] <scj643> Me
L1070[13:19:53] <Izaya> Survival, destroyed city buried in snow.
L1071[13:19:55] <Izaya> http://airi.shadowkat.science/
L1072[13:20:02] <Izaya> that's the mods and configs
L1073[13:20:08] <gamax92> scj643: do you have no swap?
L1074[13:20:09] <Izaya> you'll probably want to wget -r it
L1075[13:20:17] <scj643> Can you zip that up
L1076[13:20:23] <scj643> gamax92: I have swap
L1077[13:20:27] <gamax92> phew
L1078[13:20:39] <Izaya> scj643, just use wget -r
L1079[13:20:51] <scj643> 4.2 GB
L1080[13:21:01] <scj643> Wget can be recursive
L1081[13:21:41] <scj643> Need to figure out how I can have nginx generate directory listings in one su directory
L1082[13:21:46] <scj643> Subdirectory
L1083[13:21:53] <Izaya> use a php script
L1084[13:21:58] <gamax92> dynamically
L1085[13:22:06] <scj643> I'm going to try and set up my modpack with a launcher
L1086[13:22:12] <scj643> Custom one
L1087[13:22:22] <Izaya> why not multimc?
L1088[13:22:22] <vifino> autoindex on;
L1089[13:22:29] <Izaya> means you don't have to write a launcher
L1090[13:22:31] <vifino> do you even nginx bruh?
L1091[13:22:36] <gamax92> do you even vifino
L1092[13:22:40] * Izaya uses apache2
L1093[13:22:46] * gamax92 uses luawebserver
L1094[13:22:49] <vifino> I even vifino, do you, gamax92?
L1095[13:22:58] <gamax92> if there is a project called luawebserver, it's not mine because mine is private
L1096[13:23:04] * Lizzy Lizzys vifino
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L1098[13:23:10] <vifino> :O
L1099[13:23:16] * vifino vifinos Lizzy :3
L1100[13:23:17] <gamax92> s/:/;/
L1101[13:23:31] <gamax92> kibi you fucking piece of shit why have you left
L1102[13:23:42] <Lizzy> netsplit probably
L1103[13:23:46] <Lizzy> %sed enable
L1104[13:23:46] <MichiBot1> Lizzy: Enabled SED for this channel
L1105[13:24:00] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/zaW1tUi.png ah, shaders
L1106[13:24:01] <gamax92> dat 1
L1107[13:24:10] <Lizzy> Izaya, haha
L1108[13:25:02] * CompanionCube vifinos vifino
L1109[13:25:05] <vifino> scj643: location /subdirectory { autoindex on; }
L1110[13:25:08] <gamax92> is that a world edge shader?
L1111[13:25:10] <vifino> thank me later.
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L1113[13:25:21] <Izaya> gamax92, cel shader
L1114[13:25:26] <Izaya> ie borderlands shader
L1115[13:25:40] <Izaya> when it isn't a cloud or water shader, anyway
L1116[13:25:42] <Lizzy> also scj643/Izaya, do either of your servers have RailCraft, OC, Computronics, Project Red and Immersive Engineering on them?
L1117[13:26:06] <Izaya> I forgot P:R
L1118[13:26:10] <Izaya> but I'll add that next update
L1119[13:26:13] <Izaya> but besides that yes
L1120[13:26:19] <Lizzy> k
L1121[13:26:28] <Izaya> it is survival though
L1122[13:26:32] <Lizzy> hmm
L1123[13:26:51] <Lizzy> is there more than one city around or did you only generate the one?
L1124[13:27:05] <Izaya> it's a 128x128 chunk city
L1125[13:27:15] <gamax92> Izaya: there's a difference though
L1126[13:27:22] <gamax92> screen space shaders and world space shaders
L1127[13:27:30] <vifino> I suck at survival, I barely manage to survive alone.
L1128[13:28:23] <Izaya> anyone in #SKSDev is welcome to help me build an OC empire
L1129[13:28:39] <Lizzy> okay, i'm probably going to stick with my server (whenever i get it up) with a cave world
L1130[13:29:21] <Lizzy> that or i could just go find the very corner of your city and build there
L1131[13:29:25] <CompanionCube> Izaya, survival is meh
L1132[13:29:31] <Izaya> why the corner?
L1133[13:29:33] <Lizzy> put up warning signs or something
L1134[13:29:43] <Izaya> there's mountains and lakes
L1135[13:29:54] <Izaya> the block I intend to claim
L1136[13:30:00] <Izaya> is corner of a mountain
L1137[13:30:17] <Lizzy> mountains and lakes are hard to get lots of tracks up
L1138[13:30:49] <Izaya> just build in one of the buildings?
L1139[13:31:16] <scj643> Lizzy mine does
L1140[13:31:25] <Izaya> also there's bunkers in the mountains
L1141[13:31:42] <Lizzy> could do, i'd want to do it in creative though, thats the thing (i.e. build in creative, the stuff powering the rails and shiz you could get in survival)
L1142[13:31:46] <scj643> Though my server is a creative world
L1143[13:31:50] <Lizzy> scj643, k
L1144[13:32:01] <gamax92> "My server does" he said, frantically downloading the mentioned mods
L1145[13:32:07] <scj643> Going to be restarting the server since I'm making launcher
L1146[13:32:12] <scj643> I already have the nods
L1147[13:32:15] <scj643> Mods
L1148[13:32:15] <gamax92> ... making a launcher?
L1149[13:32:35] <scj643> Skcraft launcher
L1150[13:32:51] <vifino> dat weird sound doe
L1151[13:32:58] <Izaya> ooo a building made of coal
L1152[13:35:26] <Izaya> scj643, http://airi.shadowkat.science/SKSSrv.tar.gz tar'd up
L1153[13:36:01] <gamax92> Izaya: you should have used tar.zip.rar.7z.arc.lzma.gz.bz2.xz.exe
L1154[13:36:34] <Lilly_Satou> you mean videoxxx.exe
L1155[13:36:42] <vifino> I wouldn't be surprised if the result of that would be bigger than the things you tried to compress, gamax92.
L1156[13:36:51] <Lilly_Satou> videoxxx.avi.exe*
L1157[13:37:42] <scj643> Going to make my own launcher so idiots can run it
L1158[13:37:47] <gamax92> a video that abuses an exploit in windows media player, causing an exe to be written and launched
L1159[13:37:54] <gamax92> scj643: you don't want idiots though
L1160[13:38:05] <gamax92> give them a basic challenge that filters out most idiots
L1161[13:39:22] <Izaya> right
L1162[13:39:27] <Izaya> I have "secured" a floor
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L1164[13:40:02] <gamax92> if player exists in area of floor, delete all inventory, set on fire, and set health to -infinity
L1165[13:41:38] <vifino> Izaya: Latest forge?
L1166[13:41:51] <LJack2k> can OC be used to see what a AE2 network is crafting?
L1167[13:41:58] <Izaya> I used stable
L1168[13:42:03] <vifino> alright.
L1169[13:42:14] <scj643> Being able to be on IRC prevents idiots most of the time
L1170[13:42:19] <scj643> And on mumble
L1171[13:42:23] <gamax92> mibbit
L1172[13:42:52] <scj643> Still an average "idiot" wouldn't be in this IRC for long
L1173[13:44:05] <CompanionCube> gamax92, or
L1174[13:44:15] <CompanionCube> a .zip archive that exploits WinRAR
L1175[13:44:44] <gamax92> I don't have WinRAR
L1176[13:44:46] <scj643> Lol
L1177[13:44:49] <CompanionCube> gamax92, idiots do
L1178[13:44:59] <gamax92> XD
L1179[13:44:59] <scj643> I would do that to say fuck you to anyone that uses it
L1180[13:45:11] <CompanionCube> also
L1181[13:45:14] <scj643> 7z on windows for life
L1182[13:45:19] <CompanionCube> the 'trial has expired' dialog is exploitable
L1183[13:45:21] <CompanionCube> because IE
L1184[13:45:26] <Vexatos> LJack2k, no, only if you use OC to request the crafting job
L1185[13:45:41] <gamax92> Vexatos is best/worst modder
L1186[13:45:43] <LJack2k> ah ok. good to know. thanks
L1187[13:45:49] <Vexatos> I am indeed
L1188[13:46:00] <scj643> Should I use buildcraft 7.1 or 7.0
L1189[13:46:03] <Vexatos> I am so bad I used "import static" once in a mod
L1190[13:46:19] <Vexatos> scj643, depends on how "stable" you want it
L1191[13:46:29] <Vexatos> 7.1 is still beta and you can always upgrade later once it's released
L1192[13:46:44] <scj643> Ok staying with 7.0
L1193[13:46:50] <Vexatos> but unofficially it's stable too
L1194[13:46:59] <Vexatos> i.e. it won't make your game crash, don't worry
L1195[13:47:44] <gamax92> from Java import java.paths.weird.why.this.BigClass
L1196[13:48:17] <gamax92> #p
L1197[13:48:17] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.253932092 Seconds passed.
L1198[13:49:22] <Vexatos> #ü
L1199[13:49:25] <Vexatos> #p
L1200[13:49:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.17864364500000002 Seconds passed.
L1201[13:49:26] <Vexatos> .-.
L1202[13:49:32] <gamax92> dat ü
L1203[13:49:48] <scj643> Going with 7.1
L1204[13:50:44] <Lilly_Satou> mein führer
L1205[13:50:49] <Lilly_Satou> lets go
L1206[13:51:47] <gamax92> Suzy ü
L1207[13:56:07] <gamax92> go onto google, look up WANNA, and then just add an extra N, repeat
L1208[13:59:11] <scj643> Java unexpectedly closed and it's still going (message from Ubuntu)
L1209[14:00:59] <gamax92> #lua #("wannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna")
L1210[14:00:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 57
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L1217[14:06:31] <scj643> Mekanism is a big mod size wise
L1218[14:06:40] <scj643> 13.4 mb
L1219[14:08:36] <Vexatos> Lilly_Satou, 3nazi5me
L1220[14:09:46] <Lizzy> https://imgur.com/gallery/vxgj0eS
L1221[14:09:59] <v^> gamax92, ^v is ^v5 and its prefix is <
L1222[14:10:05] <v^> <> 4
L1223[14:10:05] <^v> v^, 4
L1224[14:10:05] <gamax92> <l lies
L1225[14:10:06] <^v> gamax92, nil
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L1227[14:14:58] <scj643> Need an Icon for my pack
L1228[14:17:59] <Izaya> ksk
L1229[14:18:01] <Izaya> kek
L1230[14:18:12] <Izaya> forgeessentials does damage for swearing
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L1232[14:20:02] <scj643> What
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L1234[14:22:15] <scj643> is it ok for me to use the OC logo for my pack logo
L1235[14:24:07] <Temia> I would hastily recommend otherwise if this is a public pack, so as to avoid notions of officiality or endorsement
L1236[14:24:35] <cloakable> ^
L1237[14:24:42] <scj643> Not a totally public pack
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L1239[14:24:54] <scj643> only people in my IRC can get it
L1240[14:25:04] <Temia> Public in any capacity
L1241[14:25:18] <scj643> Well I can't design for jack
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L1243[14:25:49] <Temia> There's tons of permissively-licensed icons and clipart out there
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L1246[14:26:17] <Mfernflower> Hello all
L1247[14:26:55] <scj643> Mfernflower: the pack is going to be changing
L1248[14:27:09] <Izaya> scj643, http://shadowkat.science/image/skslogo.svg
L1249[14:27:14] <Izaya> just for reference
L1250[14:27:17] <Izaya> my pack logo
L1251[14:28:00] <scj643> Someone should make a desktop theme based off of google's material design
L1252[14:28:19] * Izaya uses the Haiku icon set with the Arc gtk theme
L1253[14:28:28] <scj643> I curently use numix
L1254[14:28:35] <XDjackieXD> scj643 there is a project for a whole de in material design
L1255[14:28:43] <XDjackieXD> numix is great (I also use it)
L1256[14:28:52] <scj643> Yeah I love numix
L1257[14:28:57] <Izaya> what the fuck is material design?
L1258[14:29:25] <XDjackieXD> numix + numix circle icons <3 (and numix dark for some applications like IDEs, IRC, ...)
L1259[14:29:37] <XDjackieXD> Izaya never used android 5 or newer?
L1260[14:29:40] <Mfernflower> scj643, howso
L1261[14:29:41] <scj643> https://github.com/google/material-design-icons
L1262[14:29:46] <Izaya> my phone runs Android 2.3
L1263[14:29:57] <XDjackieXD> cute :3
L1264[14:30:03] <Izaya> $50
L1265[14:30:12] <LJack2k> that much?
L1266[14:31:55] <Izaya> (my tablet runs 4.0.4 though, I don't really like the look of 5, much prefer the dark theme)
L1267[14:33:04] <scj643> I wish numix could change the icons in gimp
L1268[14:33:10] <Lizzy> https://imgur.com/gallery/8nsEMVs
L1269[14:33:38] <Izaya> New favourite phrase: By stallman's beard!
L1270[14:34:05] <XDjackieXD> scj643 "change the icons in gimp" ? you can just open the svgs in inkscape...
L1271[14:34:36] <Mfernflower> Inkscape. that thing... I used it for wikipedia chemical diagram SVG's
L1272[14:34:37] <Mfernflower> because
L1273[14:34:38] <Mfernflower> well
L1274[14:34:52] <Mfernflower> wikipedia dont got a very fredinly community
L1275[14:35:17] <Mfernflower> It's mostly grey beards
L1276[14:35:17] <XDjackieXD> inkscape is nice but the version in the ubuntu/debain repo is extremely out of date
L1277[14:36:05] <XDjackieXD> also I think Krita has support for vector graphics :3 (although inkscape was made for them and has a broader toolset for vectorgraphics)
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L1279[14:38:12] <scj643> I mean change the ugly UI Icons
L1280[14:38:58] <scj643> My logo https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pVTYmJUe/CPUCraft.png
L1281[14:39:02] <XDjackieXD> UI icons? the ones in gtk apps?
L1282[14:39:07] <scj643> Yeah
L1283[14:39:22] <XDjackieXD> also svgs of the icon theme...
L1284[14:39:29] <Kodos> We need a whopinged bot
L1285[14:39:35] <scj643> Numix gtk would be nice
L1286[14:39:38] <XDjackieXD> (in my case numic circle which look really reat :3)
L1287[14:39:45] <XDjackieXD> Numix is a gtk theme...
L1288[14:39:56] <scj643> doesn't change the icons in gimp
L1289[14:40:07] <XDjackieXD> oh
L1290[14:40:12] <XDjackieXD> gimp uses custom ones
L1291[14:40:20] <scj643> dang
L1292[14:40:32] <XDjackieXD> you could compile gimp from source with custom icons though
L1293[14:40:42] <XDjackieXD> but gimp is a big mess to compile...
L1294[14:40:55] <XDjackieXD> also you logo has an error
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L1296[14:41:19] <scj643> .....
L1297[14:41:23] <scj643> error?
L1298[14:41:24] <XDjackieXD> http://puu.sh/ktSeO/e0648fbd6c.png
L1299[14:41:36] <XDjackieXD> mistake or whatever you wanna call it ^^
L1300[14:41:36] <scj643> i'm blind
L1301[14:41:37] <S3> whee whee
L1302[14:41:39] <S3> Damn it phone
L1303[14:41:42] <scj643> *visually impaired
L1304[14:42:01] <XDjackieXD> hm?
L1305[14:42:56] <scj643> So I didn't see that I misssed that
L1306[14:43:15] <XDjackieXD> oh ok
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L1311[15:01:46] <scj643> Can't wait to get my pack on my own launcher
L1312[15:03:19] <gamax92> Does your own launcher use it's own library on it's own OS for your own special computer configuration?
L1313[15:03:31] <LJack2k> for his own only
L1314[15:03:36] <scj643> No
L1315[15:03:53] <scj643> It's going to be based off of SKlauncher
L1316[15:04:42] <scj643> Which is pretty good
L1317[15:06:26] <scj643> My versioning will from now on follow the Ubuntu convention
L1318[15:07:10] <gamax92> ehh, why
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L1320[15:09:45] <scj643> It sounds cool adjective and an animal name
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L1322[15:12:16] <scj643> Also with this I can manage multiple packs with one launcher
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L1325[15:15:27] <XDjackieXD> scj643 please not another launcher >.> just use multimc, techniclauncher or something exisiting that some people already have... it's really annoying to have so many launchers for different mc modpacks...
L1326[15:15:52] <scj643> Technic sucks
L1327[15:16:13] <scj643> Multi mc you can't push updates to the client
L1328[15:16:31] <scj643> also I don't have permision for all my mods
L1329[15:16:35] <XDjackieXD> ...
L1330[15:16:42] <XDjackieXD> technic private pack
L1331[15:16:43] <LJack2k> that is your main problem
L1332[15:16:48] <scj643> I know
L1333[15:16:58] <scj643> Still technic sucks
L1334[15:17:12] <CompanionCube> is MCUpdater still a thing
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L1336[15:17:27] <scj643> Mine is just going to be a jar that you launch
L1337[15:17:42] <scj643> You put it in a separate folder
L1338[15:18:16] <XDjackieXD> ._. launcher clusterfuck intensifies....
L1339[15:19:42] <scj643> https://github.com/SKCraft/Launcher/wiki/Initial-Steps
L1340[15:33:08] <scj643> Waiting for buses sucks
L1341[15:36:20] <S3> I was waiting for the bus in the rain
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L1343[15:36:24] <S3> which is fine
L1344[15:36:30] <S3> except right now its pourin buckets
L1345[15:37:25] <Kodos> Sounds painful
L1346[15:39:00] <S3> heh
L1347[15:41:08] <ds84182> Soon: Launcher Launcher launches all your favorite Launchers
L1348[15:41:28] <ds84182> Soon: Launcher Launcher Launcher launches all your favorite Launcher Launchers
L1349[15:41:47] <ds84182> s/Launcher Launcher/Launcher Launcher Launcher/g
L1350[15:41:48] <MichiBot1> <ds84182> Soon: Launcher Launcher Launcher Launcher launches all your favorite Launcher Launcher Launchers
L1351[15:41:58] <ds84182> perfect.
L1352[15:42:20] <ds84182> Mimiru: What happened to just plain old MichiBot
L1353[15:42:28] <ds84182> inb4 MichiBot84182
L1354[15:42:30] <Lizzy> netsplit
L1355[15:42:42] <CompanionCube> MetaLauncherMetaLauncher
L1356[15:42:54] <CompanionCube> it is a launcher for your launchers that launch launchers
L1357[15:43:19] <CompanionCube> semantic satiation achieved yet
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L1359[15:44:11] <Mfernflower> hi
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L1362[15:50:43] <Kodos> Howdy
L1363[15:51:31] <Kodos> Can anyone grab logs from the last 8 hours, and see who pinged me between 8 AM central, and 2pm Central
L1364[15:53:24] <scj643> Multi mc is trying that
L1365[15:53:34] <scj643> I could
L1366[15:53:42] <scj643> If IRC cloud had a search feature
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L1369[16:24:54] <S3> Name a language where 1 is less than false!
L1370[16:25:18] <gamax92> #js 1 < false
L1371[16:25:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > false
L1372[16:25:23] <gamax92> not js :P
L1373[16:25:36] <S3> lol
L1374[16:25:47] <S3> 29> 1 < false.
L1375[16:25:48] <S3> true
L1376[16:25:51] <S3> Erlang
L1377[16:26:07] <S3> wat
L1378[16:27:12] <scj643> A custom language that has the values of 1 and 0 and true and false switch
L1379[16:27:38] <S3> :)
L1380[16:29:26] <ds84182> I feel like making my ROP run in OC
L1381[16:29:32] <ds84182> Sangar: You fine with that?
L1382[16:29:53] <scj643> Expand ROP
L1383[16:30:01] <ds84182> R O P
L1384[16:30:28] <scj643> :(
L1385[16:30:42] <Lizzy> #p
L1386[16:30:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.748406863 Seconds passed.
L1387[16:30:49] <ds84182> But I did what you said
L1388[16:31:04] <scj643> By expand I mean expand the acronym
L1389[16:31:15] <scj643> Like idk is I don't know
L1390[16:31:30] <ds84182> R e t u r n O r i e n t e d P r o g r a m m i n g
L1391[16:31:33] <ds84182> Expanded
L1392[16:31:40] <scj643> Thanks
L1393[16:31:47] <ds84182> Anytime <3
L1394[16:32:54] <scj643> Exploit code
L1395[16:32:58] <S3> what you need is
L1396[16:33:13] <S3> trampoline oriented programming
L1397[16:33:28] <Mfernflower> Memory overflow oreintated programming
L1398[16:33:28] <S3> where your entire program is an iterator trampoline of iterator trampolines
L1399[16:33:53] <Inari> oh looks its a Mfernflower
L1400[16:34:17] <S3> Mfernflower Mfernflower.jar
L1401[16:35:39] <scj643> #p
L1402[16:35:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.25026080500000003 Seconds passed.
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L1404[16:36:55] <S3> #js Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + " Batman!"
L1405[16:36:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman!"
L1406[16:37:19] <scj643> Lol
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L1408[16:40:36] <Mfernflower> #js Array(16).join("w" - 1) + " Batman!"
L1409[16:40:40] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman!"
L1410[16:40:44] <Mfernflower> heh
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L1412[16:43:24] <scj643> Guess some people in Japan love buildcraft
L1413[16:43:41] <Antheus> #lua 8+8
L1414[16:43:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 16
L1415[16:43:54] <gamax92> Antheus: ...
L1416[16:44:08] <Antheus> ||:C Am F G C :||
L1417[16:44:28] <gamax92> Your music sheet is sad
L1418[16:44:58] <Antheus> Cb
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L1420[16:52:10] <Mfernflower> #js print("potato")
L1421[16:52:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > potato
L1422[16:52:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> | "potato"
L1423[16:52:48] <Mfernflower> #js Array(16).join("potato","test")
L1424[16:52:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "potatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotato"
L1425[16:52:58] <Mfernflower> #js Array(19).join("potato","test")
L1426[16:52:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "potatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotato"
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L1434[17:10:55] <ds84182> Hmm... so first things first is to find eris_dump (which is the base symbol for the .so)
L1435[17:11:38] <Inari> hm
L1436[17:11:47] <Inari> wonder if ROP could help me on this level of microcorruption
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L1438[17:13:01] <ds84182> Inari: microwat?
L1439[17:13:07] <ds84182> I could help
L1440[17:13:15] <Inari> an old CTF thingy
L1441[17:13:16] <sugoi_> Magik6k: you around?
L1442[17:13:29] <Inari> ds84182: and well :P i'd rather find the solution myself haha
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L1444[17:13:47] <ds84182> ROP is fun
L1445[17:15:18] <ds84182> hmm I need to run Java through GDB
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L1447[17:20:06] <ds84182> Ugh, fuckit
L1448[17:20:12] <ds84182> Minecraft takes too many arguments
L1449[17:20:38] <scj643> Why get
L1450[17:20:40] <scj643> GDB
L1451[17:21:18] <scj643> I got a molex 802.11 2.2 ghz and 5 ghz antenna
L1452[17:21:56] <scj643> Don't know how good it is though
L1453[17:22:12] <scj643> Has a high temp adhesive
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L1455[17:25:06] <gamax92> "Estimated Drive Speed:"
L1456[17:25:44] <scj643> .....
L1457[17:26:08] <gamax92> and thus, the drive speed was never calculated
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L1461[17:26:34] <ds84182> scj643: GDB lets me debug JNI crashes
L1462[17:26:51] <scj643> JNI?
L1463[17:26:56] <ds84182> so I can see where the exploit fucks up in native code
L1464[17:27:03] <scj643> Expand JNI
L1465[17:27:07] <ds84182> JNI stands for the Java Native Interface
L1466[17:27:11] <scj643> Ok
L1467[17:28:58] <ds84182> Theoretically, the exploit should work in OC, but debugging the exploit would be hell
L1468[17:29:12] <gamax92> ds84182: are you exploiting OC o.o;
L1469[17:29:14] <ds84182> The great thing about OC is that the binaries don't change, so it's a nice exploit vector
L1470[17:29:29] <vifino> gamax92: yes, he is
L1471[17:29:31] <ds84182> gamax92: Was planning to, can't run java in GDB from MultiMC
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L1473[17:30:04] <sugoi> what exploit are we talking about?
L1474[17:30:13] <ds84182> uwot, gdb has attach command
L1475[17:30:24] <ds84182> sugoi: LuaPWN, my own creation ( ͡ಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠ)
L1476[17:30:45] <ds84182> I personally thank Lua 5.3 for 64bit numbers
L1477[17:30:50] <ds84182> It's a godsend
L1478[17:31:10] <ds84182> So GDB can attach to processes
L1479[17:31:18] <gamax92> DS speech: "I would like to thank the lua devs for adding 64bit numbers, without them, this exploit would not have been possible" *clapping and cheering*
L1480[17:31:32] <sugoi> haha
L1481[17:31:47] <gamax92> Also Brasero, I'm very sure this DVD is not 18.4EB
L1482[17:31:51] <ds84182> gamax92: You forgot to include the tears running down my face as I sobstory
L1483[17:32:15] <sugoi> ds84182: what does luapwn do?
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L1486[17:33:35] <ds84182> sugoi: Currently it just calls luaL_openlibs to break out of the sandbox
L1487[17:33:47] <ds84182> From there, whatever it does is up to the user
L1488[17:33:52] <sugoi> haha nice
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L1490[17:35:40] <sugoi> so, how easy is it to deploy luapwn -- is it a dll/dylib/jar? or is it actually in lua in the user space?
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L1493[17:38:09] <Magik6k> sugoi, probably
L1494[17:38:18] <ds84182> Sorry, back
L1495[17:38:23] <ds84182> sugoi: User space Lua
L1496[17:38:28] <ds84182> just needs bytecode loading
L1497[17:38:36] <sugoi> hey Magik6k - i think it was your code i am using for grep.lua
L1498[17:39:02] <Magik6k> Thats fine
L1499[17:39:08] <Magik6k> IIRC it's not mine
L1500[17:39:09] <sugoi> Magik6k: i'd like to continu to modify it and propose it for a PR into openos - and use it in my own lua-based virtual env i'm working on
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L1502[17:39:22] <sugoi> Magik6k: oh, i didn't realize that
L1503[17:39:35] <ds84182> hmm, my Lua binary lacks debugging info
L1504[17:39:37] <ds84182> fak
L1505[17:39:58] <ds84182> So that means the old ROP was customized for my Lua with debugging symbols
L1506[17:40:04] <Magik6k> I 'stole' it from guy that stole it from other guy, so you'd be 4th chain entry ;p
L1507[17:40:16] <sugoi> haha, alright
L1508[17:40:31] <sugoi> well, regardless - thanks for the code
L1509[17:41:14] <Magik6k> I think I may implement bufforless pipes in plan9k
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L1511[17:43:58] <sugoi> i have a few improvements in the works for openos and pipes, including popen
L1512[17:44:17] <sugoi> you've got a pretty awesome setup with plan9k, i like it
L1513[17:45:03] <sugoi> i dont have a whole lot of time to write these improvements, but i expect it to be ready for 1.6
L1514[17:45:05] <S3> Oh hey magic6k
L1515[17:45:15] <Magik6k> S3 hey
L1516[17:45:38] <scj643> Well good thing byte code isn't enabled by default
L1517[17:46:08] <Magik6k> sugoi, I'm rewriting big parts of kernel now to support basic contenerization and I don't have much time to do so too
L1518[17:48:28] <sugoi> ds84182: that is cool - but i had heard that byte code loading was deemed unsafe even before 64bit
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L1520[17:48:58] <scj643> 200 KB up damn
L1521[17:49:13] <sugoi> i didnt read into exactly what attack vector would have worked - nor how _specifically_ byte code loading could lead to an exploit
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L1523[17:49:36] <sugoi> but in general, the idea made sense to me - does oc lua have byte code loading?
L1524[17:49:43] <scj643> Technically isn't download from a clientside upload on the servers end?
L1525[17:49:52] <ds84182> sugoi: Yeah, it's always been unsafe
L1526[17:50:02] <ds84182> It's because Lua makes assumptions for pure speed
L1527[17:50:08] <scj643> Lol
L1528[17:50:24] <scj643> How much faster is byte code than regular Lua
L1529[17:50:29] <ds84182> The same
L1530[17:50:34] <ds84182> Lua compiles into bytecode
L1531[17:50:38] <scj643> Then why use it
L1532[17:50:45] <ds84182> Then why use what?
L1533[17:50:52] <scj643> Byte code
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L1535[17:51:11] <ds84182> Because it's faster to execute bytecode than to jump around a syntax tree
L1536[17:51:30] <ds84182> It's sequential execution
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L1538[17:52:29] <scj643> Oh ok
L1539[17:52:45] <scj643> So byte code does have performance increases
L1540[17:53:04] <ds84182> ...
L1541[17:53:24] <ds84182> jumping around a syntax tree isn't even implemented, or even sane
L1542[17:53:51] <scj643> .....
L1543[17:54:03] <scj643> Then why have bytecode?
L1544[17:54:21] <ds84182> ..............
L1545[17:54:24] <jasemobob> ....
L1546[17:54:25] <scj643> Basic for OC
L1547[17:54:34] <ds84182> I quit
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L1549[17:54:47] <scj643> Lol
L1550[17:54:59] <scj643> Someone else literarily quits
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L1554[17:56:55] <vifino> scj643: Lua runs your code this way: Parse the syntax, generate bytecode instructions and then run the bytecode.
L1555[17:57:36] <ds84182> Sangar: Please don't tell me OpenOS overrides load to make it only use "t" mode
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L1557[17:58:39] <gamax92> ds84182: ;)
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L1561[17:59:08] <vifino> Is it bad that I want to make a pirate radio station
L1562[17:59:13] <vifino> Is it bad that I want to make a pirate radio station?*
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L1564[17:59:19] <ds84182> There are two bytecode options in my config.
L1565[17:59:28] <gamax92> ds84182: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/machine.lua#L692-L697
L1566[17:59:57] <ds84182> gamax92: I know about config option, I just had two of them and only one set
L1567[18:00:02] <vifino> I mean, I got the know-how, got enough hardware and enough boredom.
L1568[18:00:27] <ds84182> vifino: craft an exploit
L1569[18:00:36] <vifino> ds84182: for what
L1570[18:00:42] <ds84182> anything
L1571[18:00:50] <vifino> k.
L1572[18:01:30] <vifino> hmm, what to exploit..
L1573[18:01:55] <ds84182> Oh yay, I can crash minecraft with the exploit
L1574[18:02:09] <vifino> good job, ds84182
L1575[18:02:19] <ds84182> Now I need a function that logs to actual minecraft log instead of OC
L1576[18:02:24] <ds84182> I wonder if there is one
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L1578[18:02:35] <vifino> of course there inst.
L1579[18:02:39] <ds84182> debug card maybe?
L1580[18:02:42] <vifino> isn't*
L1581[18:03:03] <ds84182> I can use debug card
L1582[18:03:30] <ds84182> So basically I can use runCommand
L1583[18:04:44] <scj643> Got my pack working
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L1587[18:06:33] <scj643> 8kb a second on my vps Kizzy
L1588[18:06:39] <scj643> Lizzy:
L1589[18:06:46] <scj643> Dang
L1590[18:06:50] <ds84182> # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x0000000000403f06, pid=21278, tid=140310736725760
L1591[18:06:52] <ds84182> Oh yis
L1592[18:07:17] <ds84182> For reference, pc=0x0000000000403f06 is where my ROP jumps to begin execution
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L1595[18:11:39] <scj643> Nice
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L1601[18:18:04] <jasemobob> Anyone avaliable to answer a question?
L1602[18:18:42] <sugoi> jasemobob: the answer isn't necessarily going to be correct let alone relevent
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L1604[18:19:27] <jasemobob> Ok, well hopefully you can help. I was wondering if there was anything like an autoexec in opencomputers
L1605[18:20:15] <scj643> Ok my launcher is at http://scj643.theender.net/mc/launcher.jar
L1606[18:20:48] <sugoi> for a component that you modded in? or are you talking about boot? or are you talking about a floppy disk, you want some script to run as soon as you put the disk in?
L1607[18:22:02] <jasemobob> Yes on boot. Start several programs immediately.
L1608[18:22:21] <jasemobob> No floppy disk, just on a hard disk
L1609[18:22:32] <sugoi> jasemobob: absolutely. it's the rc system you want to use
L1610[18:22:43] <ds84182> #lua debug.getlocals
L1611[18:22:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to index a nil value (global 'debug')
L1612[18:22:47] <ds84182> urg
L1613[18:22:51] <sugoi> jasemobob: may i also let you know, i'm redoing the rc system, so in 1.6 it'll be a bit different
L1614[18:23:53] <jasemobob> Ok, thanks!
L1615[18:24:16] <sugoi> jasemobob: to use rc, you will have a script that has a start and stop method
L1616[18:24:38] <sugoi> once that is ready, you can say: rc <your_script_name> start|stop|enable|disable
L1617[18:24:51] <sugoi> enable will add it to /etc/rc.cfg -- which then will auto start your script
L1618[18:25:16] <sugoi> jasemobob: again, this is changing in 1.6 (the arguments, as well as rc.cfg)
L1619[18:25:24] <sugoi> it'll be a completely breaking change
L1620[18:25:37] <sugoi> but, provide the same features (and more)
L1621[18:26:09] <scj643> My mumble is up
L1622[18:26:39] <sugoi> jasemobob: your script will need to reside in /etc/rc.d/<your_script>
L1623[18:27:18] <jasemobob> Sounds very neat! Thanks for your help again. A google search would have probably helped, but I wanted to try the ingame irc.
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L1625[18:28:58] <ds84182> *** Error in `/usr/bin/java': double free or corruption (out): 0x00007efbb0063840 ***
L1626[18:29:02] <ds84182> We did it Reddit!
L1627[18:29:53] <vifino> gj ds84182
L1628[18:29:59] <vifino> yer corruptin everything
L1629[18:30:40] <scj643> How do you change text size in OC
L1630[18:30:42] <ds84182> I have to figure out where eris_dump is now
L1631[18:31:53] <ds84182> scj643: I have no idea
L1632[18:31:59] <ds84182> #lua ("%X"):format(4229629)
L1633[18:31:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4089FD
L1634[18:32:40] <scj643> DANG
L1635[18:33:25] <sugoi> jasemobob: also, your start/stop methods need to not be local in your rc.d/ script
L1636[18:33:45] <ds84182> Hmm, I'm afraid I won't have the gadgets to ROP in OC, lets see what Lua provides me with first
L1637[18:35:29] <sugoi> jasemobob: when you upgrade to 1.6 - expect your scripts to not work right :) if i'm a good little programming, i'll document it all here: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:rc [<-- that page will be quite different in 1.6]
L1638[18:35:35] <sugoi> if not, feel free to come back here and ask me
L1639[18:36:03] <jasemobob> Ok, thank you. Also, how do you plan to update the rc system?
L1640[18:36:42] <jasemobob> Just like a script with the paths? Or something different?
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L1642[18:37:17] <scj643> How do you change term size
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L1644[18:38:00] <sugoi> jasemobob: to significantly mimic openrc
L1645[18:38:28] <sugoi> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:OpenRC
L1646[18:40:24] <ds84182> Oh, interesting. I'm going to have to rewrite my ROP
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L1648[18:42:44] <jasemobob> Ok, I'll have to study up on that. I normally work with MS, so any linux I have to google.
L1649[18:43:08] <sugoi> jasemobob: again, once it is done and ready for 1.6 .. and 1.6 is available, i'm happy to help
L1650[18:43:56] <scj643> Resolution that's what I'm looking for
L1651[18:44:38] <sugoi> scj643: gpu set resolution? also, there is a /bin/resolution.lua for it, `resolution <x_width> <y_height>`
L1652[18:45:46] <scj643> Yeah
L1653[18:46:04] <scj643> Also what's the closest I can get to 16:9
L1654[18:46:27] <sugoi> scj643: yeah, http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:gpu and setResolution(width: number, height: number): boolean
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L1656[18:46:55] <sugoi> scj643: i'd have to try it out, trial&error - not sure
L1657[18:47:26] <scj643> 2:3 is my best bet if I want it too look good not the monitors
L1658[18:48:03] <scj643> #lua 50/3
L1659[18:48:03] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 16.666666666667
L1660[18:48:56] <scj643> #lua 50/2
L1661[18:48:56] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 25.0
L1662[18:49:25] <scj643> #lua 150/3
L1663[18:49:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 50.0
L1664[18:50:39] <gamax92> https://i.imgur.com/YvWonoQ.png
L1665[18:52:56] <sugoi> ok i gotta run. later all
L1666[18:59:52] <scj643> How can a make a computer use a specified resolution when it starts
L1667[19:04:16] <scj643> Got my perfect resolution
L1668[19:04:27] <scj643> 130 by 35
L1669[19:06:05] <vifino> gamax92: first is original, yes?
L1670[19:06:44] <vifino> third is too smooth
L1671[19:07:25] <vifino> second is the music version of jpeg.
L1672[19:09:24] <vifino> ooh, that reminds me
L1673[19:09:29] <gamax92> XD
L1674[19:09:35] <gamax92> I've done that before (put music in a jpeg)
L1675[19:09:36] <vifino> i should probably run k20 on my pi
L1676[19:09:41] <gamax92> it did similar
L1677[19:10:07] <vifino> gamax92: yeah, it sounds decent enough if the compression isnt too bad
L1678[19:10:11] <gamax92> and yes first is original
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L1680[19:10:21] <vifino> but it sounds horrid if it is high
L1681[19:10:26] <gamax92> vifino: question, did you put the music line by line, or in 8x8 blocks?
L1682[19:10:39] <vifino> ?
L1683[19:10:49] <gamax92> you've tried music in a jpeg right?
L1684[19:10:53] <vifino> i did not.
L1685[19:11:09] <vifino> though I can imagine how it would sound.
L1686[19:11:18] <gamax92> then how do you know it sounds decent or not
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L1688[19:11:19] <TotallyNotKatie> %sed disable
L1689[19:11:21] <MichiBot1> TotallyNotKatie: Disabled SED for this channel
L1690[19:11:31] <Mimiru> %chgnick MichiBot
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L1692[19:11:50] <gamax92> no you cannot,
L1693[19:12:15] <vifino> gamax92: I am magic, I know how it would sound.
L1694[19:13:25] <vifino> gamax92: the third one, did you just average the stuff out?
L1695[19:13:26] <gamax92> #p
L1696[19:13:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.273546716 Seconds passed.
L1697[19:13:46] <gamax92> the third is DFPWM
L1698[19:13:50] <vifino> ah
L1699[19:14:16] <vifino> dfpwm doesnt look that horrible there
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L1709[19:53:46] <ds84182> #lua ("%X"):format(6767440)
L1710[19:53:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 674350
L1711[19:54:07] <S3> okay
L1712[19:54:10] <scj643> My pack now has its own launcher nice
L1713[19:54:11] <S3> scj643: testing that launcher
L1714[19:54:20] <scj643> You are
L1715[19:54:21] <S3> we'll see if it works with FreeBSD
L1716[19:54:36] <scj643> I recommend starting it from a terminal
L1717[19:54:40] <S3> I set the JVM path so we'll see
L1718[19:54:45] <S3> how else? :P
L1719[19:55:03] <S3> the point is I have to set the java executable, but I hope that's the same as jvm path
L1720[19:55:45] <scj643> In Ubuntu double clicking the jar dumps its file int your home directory
L1721[19:56:02] <S3> I do not have a desktop
L1722[19:56:07] <S3> for icons
L1723[19:56:14] <S3> or a file manager like that
L1724[19:56:18] <scj643> Nice
L1725[19:56:59] <ds84182> Great, I just updated my exploit to do better things TM
L1726[19:58:01] <S3> I was working on a minecraft launcher once
L1727[19:58:06] <S3> that was pure cli
L1728[19:58:56] <S3> back when jar modding was big
L1729[19:59:05] <S3> so I had this large dependency oriented system
L1730[19:59:52] <scj643> How is the pack working in BSD
L1731[19:59:56] <S3> lol that launcher broke
L1732[20:00:04] <S3> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -1
L1733[20:00:22] <S3> people should be less stupid about their array boundries
L1734[20:00:42] <S3> I've been getting a lot of those lately with modern mods
L1735[20:00:47] <S3> it's sort of embarrassing
L1736[20:01:14] <scj643> .........
L1737[20:03:57] <scj643> Don't know how I'm getting e pack to you
L1738[20:04:57] <S3> ?
L1739[20:07:48] <S3> what a bunch of boneheads
L1740[20:07:59] <S3> there's two powered by mediawiki icons on the forge wiki
L1741[20:08:03] <S3> in the same spot
L1742[20:08:51] <scj643> What
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L1744[20:15:52] <GeorgeTSpicy> Anyone familiar with computronics? That thread is dead right now
L1745[20:21:02] <S3> I thought asie wrote it but he doesn't maintain it anymore
L1746[20:21:27] <gamax92> hah, haha, comcast.
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L1748[20:22:06] <gamax92> they have instructions for how to connect to their wifi hotspot for basically every device, but every section except for windows phone has screenshots
L1749[20:22:14] <gamax92> the windows phone one has cropped camera photos
L1750[20:24:55] <S3> so scj643
L1751[20:25:10] <scj643> Yes
L1752[20:25:30] <S3> you should help me ban adfly from the Internet
L1753[20:25:37] <scj643> Yes
L1754[20:25:55] <S3> It's a waste of bandwidth
L1755[20:26:01] <scj643> I use a user script that bypasses it but it needs to die
L1756[20:26:21] <S3> people need to stop using it
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L1758[20:26:36] <S3> This isn't 1995
L1759[20:26:37] <scj643> Ad fight is the name of the script I use
L1760[20:27:16] <scj643> Also the launcher is completely broken for you
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L1766[20:46:15] <S3> FFTTWHAHAT
L1767[20:46:21] <S3> gradle depends on gcc. WHY
L1768[20:46:58] <scj643> What
L1769[20:47:11] <S3> yeah it depends on something that requires libstdc++
L1770[20:47:21] <scj643> If you were thinking of building the launcher you need my configs
L1771[20:47:23] <S3> which is.. packaged with gcc. I shouldn't have to install gcc. wtf
L1772[20:47:41] <S3> no I'm just running forge's gradle
L1773[20:47:45] <S3> which no longer works without gcc
L1774[20:47:55] <S3> go figure
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L1776[20:51:27] <S3> scj643: Why do most Java programmers base their faulty concept of how good something is based on the features it has?
L1777[20:52:16] <S3> I like libhelloworld! it uses 5 GB of ram, but it lets you display Hello world in 5 different colors!
L1778[20:52:29] <scj643> what
L1779[20:52:35] <S3> :P
L1780[20:52:56] <S3> That is the sort of stuff I get out of most Java programmers I meet face to face
L1781[20:53:06] zsh sets mode: +v on Xilandro
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L1784[20:54:23] <S3> Not only can this class toast the toast in your toaster, but it can also be used as a four door sedan that just barely passes hazardous exhaust emission requirements
L1785[20:55:43] <scj643> Lol
L1786[21:01:44] <ds84182> false machine:100876810: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value
L1787[21:01:48] <ds84182> I think it's broken.
L1788[21:02:40] <gamax92> I think so too
L1789[21:03:12] <ds84182> Hmm, so Lua becomes too unstable after running ROP
L1790[21:04:20] <S3> ok.
L1791[21:04:27] <S3> I'm stealing the mc.s3 package namespace
L1792[21:04:36] <S3> since my domain name isn't a valid java package name
L1793[21:04:47] <S3> screw conventions
L1794[21:05:36] <scj643> It's reverse domain names
L1795[21:05:42] <S3> doesn't matter
L1796[21:05:53] <S3> my domain name is so incompatible and looks like shit if converted
L1797[21:06:22] <S3> besides
L1798[21:06:43] <ds84182> besides what
L1799[21:06:57] <S3> besides I think the reverse domain name idea is stupid :P
L1800[21:07:31] <ds84182> yes, because package minecraft.net; makes more sense than package net.minecraft;
L1801[21:07:51] <S3> the net is dumb
L1802[21:08:04] <ds84182> the net is stylistic
L1803[21:08:15] <S3> PFFT
L1804[21:09:40] <S3> either way, there's no stylistic way to represent 9600-baud.net in a java package
L1805[21:10:15] <ds84182> net.nintysixhundredbaud
L1806[21:10:31] <ds84182> net.ninesixhundredbaud
L1807[21:10:32] <S3> yeah I read that and I think two things:
L1808[21:10:40] <S3> a it reads ninja turtles before I get to the second word
L1809[21:10:57] <ds84182> How the fuck does that come remotely near ninja turtles
L1810[21:11:08] <S3> b it reminds me of JavaProgrammersCanWriteClassNamesThatNobodyCanRead
L1811[21:11:17] <gamax92> I can easily read that
L1812[21:11:26] <S3> you shouldn't
L1813[21:11:26] <S3> :P{
L1814[21:11:36] <ds84182> And when was the last fucking time you saw a class name that you couldn't read
L1815[21:11:44] <ds84182> In enterprise code? Yes.
L1816[21:11:49] <S3> It happens a lot in Java for me
L1817[21:11:49] <ds84182> In practical library code? No.
L1818[21:11:57] <ds84182> S3: Then you Java wrong
L1819[21:11:58] <S3> not just class names but
L1820[21:12:07] <S3> I don't Java for a reason :)
L1821[21:12:21] <S3> but nobody wants to read ToasterNotToastingException
L1822[21:12:26] <S3> that's just retarded
L1823[21:12:28] <ds84182> Dammit OC is too unpredictable for this sandbox escape
L1824[21:12:35] <S3> wat
L1825[21:12:41] <ds84182> But hey, it crashes Minecraft with a SIGSEGV
L1826[21:12:53] <ds84182> So it can bring down a server
L1827[21:12:53] <S3> silly JVM and their segfaults..
L1828[21:13:05] <ds84182> S3: This is all native code. Shut the fuck up.
L1829[21:13:14] <S3> :)
L1830[21:13:20] <S3> ds84182: but segfaults are fun!
L1831[21:13:26] <ds84182> Mimiru: Drama is about to fucking happen
L1832[21:13:49] <S3> segfaults are the result of the operating system saying fuck you put you ima in your place
L1833[21:14:01] <S3> ima put you*
L1834[21:14:20] <S3> damn it
L1835[21:14:26] <S3> fiance says bed time
L1836[21:14:35] <ds84182> Good.
L1837[21:14:41] <S3> nooooooooo
L1838[21:14:46] <ds84182> Sleep.
L1839[21:14:52] <S3> But I just sat down!
L1840[21:14:54] <ds84182> Sleep.
L1841[21:15:02] <S3> Meh
L1842[21:15:12] <ds84182> I found out today that I'm S3's fiance.
L1843[21:15:16] <ds84182> Cool.
L1844[21:15:37] <S3> what
L1845[21:15:49] <scj643> .....
L1846[21:15:51] <S3> I have no idea what you're smoking but I sure don't want it either
L1847[21:16:16] <ds84182> Cracaine
L1848[21:16:20] <scj643> High on chamelium
L1849[21:16:22] <ds84182> Lots of it
L1850[21:16:41] <ds84182> lots of kalseum for your bones
L1851[21:16:43] <ds84182> doot doot
L1852[21:16:46] <ds84182> mr ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1853[21:17:07] <S3> oh crap I didn't load unicode
L1854[21:17:24] <ds84182> [xcb] Unknown request in queue while dequeuing
L1855[21:17:25] <ds84182> [xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called
L1856[21:17:25] <ds84182> [xcb] Aborting, sorry about that.
L1857[21:17:25] <ds84182> java: ../../src/xcb_io.c:179: dequeue_pending_request: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_unknown_req_in_deq' failed.
L1858[21:17:27] <ds84182> How did that happen
L1859[21:18:01] <ds84182> i GUESS i JUST BROKE EVERYTHING TO THE POINT OF NO RETURN
L1860[21:25:22] <S3> shoulda used fortran
L1861[21:25:26] <S3> and punch cards
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L1863[21:30:31] <Izaya> scj643, just a reminder
L1864[21:30:34] <Izaya> if you make your own launcher
L1865[21:30:43] <Izaya> I will hang you by your own intestines
L1866[21:30:53] <scj643> Wtf
L1867[21:31:15] <scj643> http://scj643.theender.net/mc/launcher.jar
L1868[21:31:34] <Izaya> Okay.
L1869[21:31:35] <scj643> Where are my intestines hanging now
L1870[21:31:43] <Izaya> I'll go find the knife.
L1871[21:31:58] <Izaya> Can you still get the pack separately!
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L1873[21:31:59] <Izaya> ?
L1874[21:32:19] <scj643> Not yet that's what I'm going to do tommorow
L1875[21:33:03] <Izaya> You may live. For now.
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L1879[22:08:31] <ds84182> #lua 4<<3
L1880[22:08:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 32
L1881[22:08:40] <ds84182> #lua 3<<4
L1882[22:08:40] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 48
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L1886[22:32:04] <ds84182> WELL, SLAP MY KEYBOARD AND CALL ME CAPSLOCK.
L1887[22:37:04] <ds84182> table: 0x7fa488028240otable: 0x7f205003d420000000000000000000003 Seconds
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L1891[23:01:29] <Kodos> Any of you guys happen to have a cobbleworks flowchart handy
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