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L2[00:00:45] <Kodos> So, I may have made a
mistake
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L4[00:01:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: ?
L5[00:01:19] <Kodos> Shuudoushi, I took your
benchmark function, replaced the 100k with amt, added amt as a
parameter, stuck in an os.sleep(0), and benchmarked math.huge
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L7[00:01:46] <Shuudoushi> Kodos: oh?
L8[00:01:55] <Kodos> I'll let you know the
result as soon as it's done
L9[00:02:01] <Shuudoushi> cool
L10[00:02:18] <gamax92> >as soon as it's
done
L11[00:02:19] <gamax92> >math.huge
L12[00:02:20] <Kodos> Around 2.5m as an
amount though, it started taking longer than 0.01s per
L13[00:02:34] <gamax92> contradiction
detected
L14[00:02:37] <Kodos> err
L15[00:02:41] <Kodos> gamax92, be nice
=P
L17[00:03:33] <Kodos> Which part? Me being
an idiot and using math.huge? Or just being able to benchmark a
specified number of times
L18[00:03:55] <Shuudoushi> the latter
L19[00:04:18] <Shuudoushi> and fucking
skype is back to playing fucking video ads with sound -_-
L20[00:04:46] <Kodos> Let me test this
other idea real quick, and then I'll edit the file since I'm still
cocontributor on SOS
L21[00:05:01] <Shuudoushi> cool
L22[00:05:14] <Kodos> Having to set up
another computer though because I don't want to interrupt htat
one
L23[00:05:19] <Shuudoushi> just make sure
you're dicking with the dev branch please P
L24[00:05:22] <Shuudoushi> :P*
L25[00:05:37] <Kodos> Noted
L26[00:11:43] <Kodos> Done
L27[00:11:55] <Kodos> Tested the new
version, as well, and it works.
L28[00:12:10] <Shuudoushi> sweet, thanks
man :P
L29[00:12:19] <Shuudoushi> did you add a
credit to the file?
L30[00:12:27] <Kodos> For what?
L31[00:13:05] <Shuudoushi> I try to make
sure everyone who made/improved soemthing has it credited to them,
and also so when it breaks I know who to blame :P
L32[00:13:48] <Kodos> I'm listed as a
contributor, and the author of that commit
L33[00:13:53] <Kodos> So if something
breaks, just check the file's history
L34[00:14:04] <Shuudoushi> lol, kk
L35[00:14:54] <Shuudoushi> I just hope that
lib doesn't override the default lib for some stupid
reason...
L36[00:15:10] <Shuudoushi> it shouldn't,
but one never knows
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L39[00:16:50] <Kodos> I still think you
should've named the OS ShuuBoxOS
L40[00:17:03] <Shuudoushi> lol
L41[00:17:20] <Shuudoushi> if it wasn't
bundled is opensecurity, I may have named it that
L42[00:17:29] <Shuudoushi> s/is/with
L43[00:17:30] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi>
if it wasn't bundled with opensecurity, I may have named it
that
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L49[00:22:50] <Sandra> Shuudoushi, what's
opensecurity?
L50[00:23:09] <Shuudoushi> Mimirus
add-on
L51[00:23:55] <Sandra> gotta link?
L53[00:24:42] <Kodos> >Thanks Kodos for
the name!
L55[00:25:00] <Shuudoushi> it's on the
forums as well, but I don't have a link off hand for that
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L57[00:26:21] <Kodos> Mkay, let's see what
updating NEI and CCC breaks
L58[00:27:25] <Sandra> the component names
are non-convention!
L59[00:27:32] *
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L61[00:27:44] <Shuudoushi> lol
L62[00:27:49] <Mimiru> Sandra, umm..
what?
L63[00:28:14] <Sandra> components in OC are
generally named_like_this.
L64[00:28:30] <Shuudoushi> ...
L66[00:28:51] <Mimiru> os_alarm
L67[00:28:57] <Sandra> oh they are?
L68[00:28:58] <Mimiru> os_cardwriter
L69[00:29:03] <Sandra> the forum post
doesn't reflect that.
L70[00:29:05] <Mimiru>
os_switchablehub
L71[00:29:18] <Shuudoushi> the forum post
hasn't been touched in a bit...
L72[00:29:18] <Mimiru> Right cause I'm lazy
and have yet to fix the forum post
L73[00:29:22] <Sandra> I withdraw my
yelling.
L75[00:30:03] *
Kodos is glad his texture has a home finally
L76[00:30:55] <Sandra> it has switchable
hubs and KVM switches?
L77[00:30:56] <Sandra> cool.
L78[00:31:32] <Shuudoushi> Kodos: lol
L79[00:32:19] <Kodos> Anyone use
EnderStorage chests as components?
L80[00:32:27] <Kodos> Ever, not just at the
moment
L81[00:32:48] <Sandra> they have
components?
L82[00:32:56] <Kodos> With an adapter,
yes
L83[00:33:00] <Shuudoushi> o.O
L84[00:33:03] <Shuudoushi> freaky
L85[00:33:04] <Sandra> what does the
component do?
L86[00:33:13] <Kodos> get/set frequency,
and getOwner
L87[00:33:25] <Sandra> oh wow, cool.
L88[00:33:34] <Sandra> for saving
dyes!
L89[00:33:38] <Kodos> I'm not sure if you
can manipulate inventory with a controller upgrade
L90[00:33:44] <Shuudoushi> NO MORE WASTING
DYES!
L91[00:33:45] <Sandra> you should be able
to.
L92[00:33:54] <Kodos> Sandra, the issue
would be ownership
L93[00:34:06] <Shuudoushi> lol, hacking
ender chest XD
L94[00:34:07] <Sandra> they're
IInventories, you should be able to.
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L97[00:34:35] <Sandra> if you can pipe in
and out of them, you can manipulate them with a
inventory_controller
L98[00:35:13] <Sandra> secureos looks
pretty neat.
L99[00:35:26] <Shuudoushi> ty
L100[00:35:40] <Shuudoushi> it's still a
bit durpy though
L101[00:36:00] <Shuudoushi> I have
multi-user login, but only one user at a time...
L102[00:36:15] <Shuudoushi> and I still
have to work out file ownership
L103[00:37:31] <Shuudoushi> back to anime
for a bit
L104[00:39:56] <Shuudoushi> if I suddenly
change nick to 'Shuudoushi|Away', it's b/c windows has decided it's
ready to update
L105[00:40:16] <Kodos> #lua return
16^3
L106[00:40:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
4096.0
L107[00:40:34] <Kodos> Okay, so 0 to
4095
L108[00:40:47] <Kodos> Much easier than
calling it in CC's way
L109[00:41:03] <gamax92> #lua function
math.sqrt(a) return a^0.5 end
L110[00:41:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L111[00:41:10] *
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L113[00:44:02] <Kodos> #lua return 0.05 *
4096
L114[00:44:02] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
204.8
L115[00:44:10] <Kodos> erm
L116[00:44:11] <Kodos> wat
L117[00:44:13] <Kodos> Oh
L118[00:44:25] <Kodos> #lua return 204 /
60
L119[00:44:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
3.4
L120[00:44:51] <Kodos> That doesn't seem
right, but okay
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L123[00:49:49] <Kodos> What's wrong with
this statement:
L124[00:50:34] <Kodos> for x = 1,78 do
items = component.inventory_controller.getStackInSlot(x) if #items
> 0 then print(items.label) end end
L125[00:55:08] <Sandra> #lua return
204.000000000 / 60
L126[00:55:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
3.4
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L128[01:07:09] <Kodos> ~w inventory
controller
L130[01:07:22] <Kodos> Oh ffs
L131[01:07:31] <Sandra> hmm?
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L133[01:08:11] <Kodos> I forgot to call
the side in getStackInSlot
L134[01:08:20] <Kodos> Working now
L135[01:08:22] <Sandra> gj there.
L136[01:08:24] <Kodos> Indeed
L137[01:08:51] <Kodos> Working on a
program to check all 4096 public frequencies of an ender chest, and
write to a file the amount and name of any items found, along with
their frequency
L138[01:09:38] <Sandra> whoa.... that
actually sounds useful.
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L140[01:13:56] <Kodos> Indeed
L141[01:14:06] <Kodos> I have quick and
dirty code running, just need to clean it up and stick it in a
proper program
L142[01:15:47] <Kodos> The inventory
controller upgrade docs need updated, though. I'd like to see an
example code snippet for use in adapters. AFAIK, you don't get the
getStackInInternalSlot method via adapter
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L144[01:17:36] <Kodos> #lua return
math.sqrt(4096)
L145[01:17:36] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
64.0
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L149[01:25:55] <Mimiru> Also, RP no, a
minigun that shoots 40k sacks of cash.
L150[01:25:56] <Mimiru> Yes.
L152[01:26:16] <Kodos> Does this look like
clean enough output for a log file?
L153[01:27:31] <Kodos> Was thinking about
using hyphens for a line separator between frequencies, too
L154[01:27:34] <Kodos> For
readability
L155[01:28:42] <Cruor> Kodos: why is the
log file a picture? D:
L156[01:28:48] <Kodos> Just an
example
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L159[01:32:15] <Kodos> #lua return 4096 /
60
L160[01:32:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
68.266666666667
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L162[01:32:19] <Kodos> Jesus
L163[01:32:28] <Kodos> A little over an
hour to check all 4095 frequencies with this program
L164[01:33:43] <Sandra> well, Kodos, 1
tick per call.
L165[01:33:51] <Kodos> I realize the
math
L166[01:34:05] <Kodos> It just didn't sink
in until I ran the code
L167[01:34:14] <Sandra> you can always
parallelize it.
L168[01:34:27] <Kodos> How?
L169[01:35:07] <Sandra> say you have a
server rack.
L170[01:35:17] <Kodos> Well yeah, that's
easy
L171[01:35:33] <Sandra> divide all the
possible frequencies up into 4, have each one do a 4th of the
frequencies.
L172[01:35:37] <Kodos> 4 racks doing
operations on 4 chests, each doing a quarter of the frequencies,
yeah
L173[01:35:37] <Kodos> I know
L174[01:35:42] <Sandra> done 4 times as
fast.
L175[01:35:52] <Sandra> (roughly.)
L176[01:36:30] <Kodos> The -only- issue I
have with that, is I'd have to write the files to make it so that
they all used the same raid that always sits underneath my server
rack
L177[01:36:43] <Kodos> Each server writing
to a different log, ofc
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L179[01:37:25] <Kodos> #lua return 4096 /
3
L180[01:37:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1365.3333333333
L181[01:37:29] <Kodos> Damn
L182[01:37:29] <Sandra> you can always
have a 5th computer, which they all send messages to, which
recieves a message and writes it to the log.
L183[01:37:42] <Kodos> I was just thinking
the same, but just the one server rack
L184[01:37:58] <Kodos> But OCPD prevents
me from doing so, because one server would be logging one more
frequency than the other two
L185[01:39:33] <Kodos> Bleh, getting
wicked tired, but can't go to bed yet
L186[01:41:24] <Mimiru> damn 2nd hardlock
in 5 minutes
L187[01:41:26] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L188[01:41:42] <Mimiru> And no, I was
getting them in 7 too, so it's not 10's fault.
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L198[02:09:39] <Sandra> wow, my dad can't
even spell australia.
L199[02:09:42] <Sandra> he lives
here.
L200[02:09:47] <Sandra>
austraila....
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L205[02:21:55] <Kodos> ~w inventory
controller
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L209[02:23:13] <Kodos> What's an easy way
to make the else part of an if statement do nothing? just doing
else end end isn't working
L210[02:23:30] <Sandra> Kodos, um.... if
end?
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L212[02:23:41] <Kodos> No, like
L213[02:23:45] <Sandra> if ... then ...
end
L214[02:24:06] <Kodos> Kids, don't code at
2 AM when you're hot, miserable, and tired
L215[02:24:11] <Kodos> Thank you
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L217[02:24:50] <Sandra> ah, sleepy
coders.
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L221[02:28:36] <Kodos> The complete scan
is on Brown-X-X
L222[02:28:40] <Kodos> So, almost
done
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L229[02:41:44] <Kodos> I am tired so
forgive the potentially stupid question, but can you hash a table
via the data card
L230[02:42:06] <Kodos> I can provide an
example
L232[02:42:38] <MichiBot> Sandra:
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L233[02:53:31] <Kodos> There, fullscan
done
L234[02:54:47] <dangranos> huh
L235[02:54:57] <dangranos> did i missed
something and there are raw hdd/floppy?
L236[02:55:17] <Kodos> dangranos, I wrote
code to check all 4096 frequencies of an enderstorage ender chest,
and spit out a list of any items found
L237[02:55:28] <Kodos> Takes about an hour
and 20 minutes to run
L238[02:56:22] <dangranos> distribute
it?
L239[02:56:30] <Kodos> I will when it's
not just a single line in the lua interpreter
L240[02:56:36] <dangranos> heh
L241[02:56:38] <Kodos> Read:Tomorrow,
after my AC works and I've slept
L242[02:56:54] <Kodos> It's ~85F in my
house atm
L243[02:57:18] <Kodos> Speaking of which,
I'm going to bed
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L246[02:58:44] <dangranos> i wonder how
much time will it take to go trough every ioccc winner
L247[02:58:53] <dangranos> i mean look at
what it does
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L249[02:59:11] <dangranos> i'm not crazy
to deubfuscate and undestand every single winner
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L255[03:22:41] <Inari> why are there 4
cardinal directions
L256[03:23:02] <Izaya> so voxels work
well
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L260[03:30:12] <Izaya> asie, any idea why
in a strange combination of IC2 and Buildcraft, it keeps draining
lava even though there's no power draw?
L261[03:30:26] <Sandra> what's draining
lava?
L262[03:31:04] <Sandra> oh that.
L263[03:31:05] <Izaya> The pump is
draining lava, the IC2 generator is emptying its buffer for no
reason, and the battery box is full
L264[03:31:49] <Sandra> don't BC things
drain whether they can do anything or not?
L266[03:34:07] <dangranos> heh
L267[03:34:20] <dangranos> firefox now has
"mute tab" feature
L268[03:34:40] <Izaya> Can I default them
all to mute and only explicitly unmute them?
L269[03:35:06] *
dangranos shrugs
L270[03:35:14] <Sandra> I wish chrome had
a mute tab feature.
L271[03:35:23] <Sandra> it has a
"this tab is playing noise" feature.
L272[03:35:52] <dangranos> inb4 chrome
adds that soon
L273[03:36:04] <Izaya> firefox adds
features
L274[03:36:12] <Izaya> chrome looks
'better' supposedly
L275[03:36:15] <Izaya> and as such we have
a cycle
L276[03:36:27] <Izaya> for the record, I
fucking hate the way Firefox is pretending to be chrome
L277[03:37:05] <Sandra> I use chrome
because google ecosystem.
L278[03:38:41] <dangranos>
"dom.audiochannel.mutedByDefault"
L279[03:38:48] <dangranos> Izaya, yes you
can
L280[03:39:02] <Izaya> dangranos, which FF
version is this?
L281[03:39:10] <bawr> Izaya: +1, the chief
reason I stopped using FF is because they tried to be Chrome, and
hell, if I wanted to have Chrome, I'd just download it
L282[03:39:11] <bawr> >_>
L283[03:39:30] <Izaya> I use Classic Theme
Restorer to make firefox not shit
L284[03:39:45] <dangranos> 42.0a1 build
2015-08-02
L285[03:39:51] <dangranos> well, maybe
earlier
L286[03:39:58] <dangranos> i noticed it
just now
L287[03:39:59] <Izaya> okay, so literally
yesterday
L288[03:40:12] <Izaya> looks like I'm
doing a sudo pacman -Syu that I forgot to do last night
L289[03:40:23] <dangranos> um
L290[03:40:25] <dangranos> it's
nightly
L291[03:41:10] <dangranos> hm
L292[03:41:28] <dangranos> looks like it
was added by the end of July
L293[03:42:16] <dangranos> hm maybe config
option works only for some things
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L298[04:02:32] <Temia> mu.
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L300[04:09:46] <Inari> i should name a cow
Temia
L301[04:09:54] <Temia> moo? o:
L302[04:10:01] <Inari> hm
L303[04:10:04] <Inari> mabye i already
have
L304[04:10:05] <Inari> cant recall
L305[04:10:13] <Inari> but I will once i
get a new cow :3
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L310[04:14:43] <bawr> I lost my shit
xD
L311[04:15:35] <Inari> "Talk me
through this and I'll make it a shitty four panel
comic."
L312[04:15:38] <Inari> its a 6 panel
comic
L313[04:15:39] <Inari> the lies
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L319[04:49:17] <Izaya> so for whatever
reason
L320[04:49:26] <Izaya> an IC2 electric
furnace was using 206RF/t
L321[04:49:32] <Izaya> while doing
absolutely nothing
L323[04:51:10] <Izaya>
MPEGConverter/10
L324[04:58:23] <dangranos> huh
L325[04:59:26] <dangranos> this unamanged
mode looks interesting
L326[05:04:49] <dangranos> "An
estimate is that the code density entropy of this entry is
~1.2"
L327[05:04:51] <dangranos> what
L328[05:04:55] <dangranos> how does that
even works..
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L331[05:24:37] <Shuudoushi> I swear to all
that is holy and unholy, if unplugging one of my monitors makes
win10 install just fine, I'm going to murder ever m$ employee on
the planet...
L332[05:27:07] <bawr> that's... actually
somewhat plausible. although I thought only openos has trouble with
deterministically choosing one default screen out of multiples
available, heh
L333[05:27:54] <Shuudoushi> Yeah...
L334[05:28:42] <Shuudoushi> Maybe
Magik6k|off should teach them how to do multimonitor
support...
L335[05:29:42] <Shuudoushi> If this works,
who is going to show up for my execution :D
L336[05:32:00] <Shuudoushi> 12gb of ram
and explorer is telling me that there isn't enough memory to launch
control panel...
L337[05:33:26] <Shuudoushi> And this is
the reason we can't have nice things...
L338[05:33:42] <bawr> I'll show up, I'll
even fly in.
L339[05:33:57] <Shuudoushi> Lol
L341[05:34:27] <bawr> You can be the
patron saint of IT guys having to deal with horrible
technology.
L342[05:34:29] <Shuudoushi> I wonder if
I'll get the firing squad... One can hope!
L343[05:34:36] <bawr> Well, after the
execution, I mean.
L344[05:34:44] <Shuudoushi> XD
L345[05:35:53] <bawr> dangranos: >To
enable you to fully understand the capabilities of this circuit
simulator, I have included a 55 page manual (info.pdf) in the info
portion of the entry submission.
L346[05:35:55] <bawr> Oh wow.
L347[05:36:01] <dangranos> yeah
L348[05:36:02] <bawr> That's actually
respectable as all fuck.
L349[05:36:35] <dangranos> now i'm reading
it
L350[05:36:45] <Shuudoushi> Lol
L351[05:37:23] <Shuudoushi> OK, last try
before I start murdering people anyway :D
L352[05:38:11] <dangranos> i hope nobody
minds if i paste small multiline from that pdf?
L353[05:38:39] <Shuudoushi> Back to
YouTube on my shitty phone, will update later lol
L354[05:39:00] <Shuudoushi> Pastebin
it...
L355[05:39:36] <bawr> dangranos: not at
all, I'm too lazy to find the link, so reading-by-proxy works
;)
L356[05:39:38] *
dangranos found pattern detector made out of 4 relays
L357[05:39:48] <dangranos> # 1010 Pattern
Detector
L358[05:39:49] <dangranos> def
1010detector i3 i2 i1 i0 o :
L359[05:39:49] <dangranos> r i3 z 1
0
L360[05:39:49] <dangranos> r i2 y 0
z
L361[05:39:49] <dangranos> r i1 x y
0
L362[05:39:50] <dangranos> r i0 o 0
x
L363[05:40:40] <dangranos> def - defines
"circuit" made out of relays
L364[05:41:39] <bawr> the syntax is
actually quite readable
L365[05:41:42] <bawr> go figure
L366[05:42:09] <dangranos> it basically
has 3 commands from what i understood
L367[05:42:48] <robhol> that's readable?
>_o
L368[05:43:00] *
robhol rotates monitor
L369[05:43:02] <dangranos> BFck
level
L370[05:43:16] <dangranos> well, not BF
but close
L371[05:43:22] <dangranos> more like
bf+asm
L372[05:43:48] <dangranos> ...and you can
make circuits out of circuits
L373[05:45:51] <bawr> robhol: that's
readable if you know the context, yes
L374[05:46:11] <Inari> is
"pattern" detector parallel?
L375[05:46:12] <dangranos> heh, XOR is
literally X
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L377[05:46:33] <bawr> Inari: as much as
relays are parallel ;)
L378[05:46:41] <dangranos> Inari, yeah,
because AND is parallel itself
L379[05:47:19] <Inari> well.. i mean does
"pattern detector" mean you have 4 inputs and try to
detect i = {1,0,1,0} or does it mean you have one input that has a
sequence of 1010 you want to detect :p or doest hte latter count as
sequeence (pattern) detector
L380[05:49:07] <bawr> look at the def
line
L381[05:49:16] <bawr> it basically takes 4
bits and outputs one bit
L382[05:49:25] <bawr> (i3, i2, i1, i0)
-> input
L383[05:49:28] <bawr> o -> output
L384[05:49:36] <Inari> ah, so parallel,
was pondering how it would work with 4 realys in sequence
haha
L385[05:50:48] <dangranos> you can read
docs
L386[05:51:34] <Inari> i didnt read past
1010detector on that line :D
L387[05:52:09] <Inari> not sure why you'd
use relays
L388[05:53:44] <dangranos> because they
are the base elements?
L389[05:54:07] <reinei> what are we
talking about?
L391[05:54:20] <reinei> redstone
stuff?
L392[05:54:21] <dangranos> reinei, circuit
simulator based on relays
L393[05:56:20] <bawr> Inari: in sequence?
you start by having a clock line ;)
L394[05:56:31] <dangranos> there is clock
node..
L395[05:56:36] <Inari> bawr: well i meant
with 4 relays ofc :P
L396[05:56:45] <reinei> dangranos: what
relays? mod relays?
L397[05:56:48] <bawr> also, top kek @
those silly scammers
L398[05:56:58] <dangranos> #g relay
L400[05:57:13] <dangranos> gah
L401[05:57:24] <reinei> thats why I'm
asking
L403[05:58:46] <bawr> reinei: uhh, clock
line, latches, it's trivial, really, and as such left as an
exercise to the reader *waves hands in an attempt to sound
convincing*
L404[05:59:11] <reinei> bawr: I build
CPU's in MC back when singleplayercommands was still being
updated
L405[05:59:14] <dangranos> clock line is
included, by default
L406[05:59:27] <reinei> and I have played
KHC... that thingy from zachtronics industries
L407[05:59:39] <reinei> (although i have
yet to finish it once xD)
L408[06:00:43] <bawr> I actually did half
of a tiny CPU with Terraria rails
L409[06:00:47] <bawr> I should find that
someday
L410[06:00:55] <reinei> RAILS?! wow
Xd
L411[06:01:08] <reinei> I didn't go into
terraria due it only being 'switch' signals
L412[06:01:21] <bawr> hoiks always
irritated me
L413[06:01:22] <Inari> and well mostly
just wondering why you'd use relays and not just 3 gates or
so
L414[06:01:39] <bawr> so I decided to do
something different
L415[06:01:50] <bawr> Inari: it's an
example, not an *optimal* example
L416[06:01:51] <bawr> as in
L417[06:02:11] <bawr> think of it as an
illustration of using relays, not as an illustration of a proper
detector
L418[06:02:22] <Inari> :p
L419[06:02:28] <Inari> so like abusing
diodes as and gates
L420[06:04:03] <dangranos> hm
L421[06:04:11] <dangranos> can you make a
relay in terraria?
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L428[06:17:30] <bawr> is Terraria turing
complete?
L429[06:17:48] <reinei> bawr: dunno, are
the birds and craps turing complete?
L430[06:19:34] <bawr> birds, kind of,
they're not 100% reliable
L431[06:19:51] <bawr> but with the latest
developments in hoik black arts
L432[06:19:57] <bawr> I think it actually
is
L433[06:20:17] <reinei> well the hammer
additions of 1.2 made birds more controlable
L434[06:20:42] <Izaya> there's birds in
terraria?
L435[06:21:12] <reinei> yes
L436[06:21:15] <reinei> many forms
actually
L437[06:21:23] <reinei> and you can sell
them from 1-15 silver
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L439[06:35:29] <dangranos> O_o
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L441[06:35:36] <dangranos> c/java
program
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L446[06:51:55] <bawr> c/java
program?
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L448[06:53:32] <Inari> bitdefender leaked
unencrypted userdata ¬_¬
L449[06:58:44] <bawr> Inari: wha
L450[06:58:45] <bawr> link
L452[07:02:33] <bawr> >unencrypted
passwords
L453[07:02:39] <bawr> EVERY SINGLE
MOTHERFUCKING TIME
L454[07:03:20] <Inari> though it isnt
clear if the hacker somehow got the logins while they were logging
in (so a kind of MITM attack?) (still bad) or if they store it
unencrypted (even more bad)
L455[07:03:31] <Inari> either way
L456[07:03:40] <Inari> nice going for a
security company
L457[07:03:40] <Inari> :D
L458[07:04:48] <bawr> meh, I mean
L459[07:04:57] <bawr> >closed source
encryption software
L460[07:05:01] <bawr> why would anyone
even use that xD
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L462[07:05:30] <bawr> and now apparently
the win10 BD integration will upload your password to
onedrive
L463[07:05:32] <bawr> good going
L465[07:05:46] <Inari> bd=
L466[07:05:47] <Inari> *?
L467[07:06:08] <bawr> ph, wait
L468[07:06:14] <bawr> bit *defender*, not
bitlocker
L469[07:06:25] <bawr> HA HA DISREGARD THAT
I SUCK COCKS
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L471[07:08:59] <Izaya> man, I must have
downloaded this last year
L473[07:09:09] <Izaya> time to finally
watch it
L474[07:09:15] <Inari> watch what
L475[07:09:31] <Izaya> last exile - fam,
the silver wing
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L478[07:22:45] <dangranos> yeah, fuck you
too
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L481[07:33:20] <Skye|Walking> #p
L482[07:33:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
3.531018029 Seconds passed.
L483[07:33:29] <Skye|Walking> Kill
me
L484[07:33:35] <Lizzy> okay
L485[07:33:42] *
Lizzy stabs Skye|Walking repeatedly
L486[07:35:30] <Naegi> Walk-Stab-Walk
would describe the situation accurately.
L487[07:36:45] *
Skye|Walking doesn't die
L488[07:36:52] <Skye|Walking> Oh come
on-
L489[07:36:56] *
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L490[07:37:03] <Skye|Walking> #p
L491[07:37:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.869551458 Seconds passed.
L492[07:37:09] <Skye|Walking> Yay
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L494[07:38:24] <Kamran> #p
L495[07:38:33] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
Timeout.
L496[07:38:41] <Kamran> haha
L497[07:39:14] <Lizzy> #p
L498[07:39:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.6943381399999999 Seconds passed.
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L501[07:54:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.48666999499999997 Seconds passed.
L502[07:54:31] <bawr> eh, I'll take
it
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L505[07:58:51] <MichiBot> bawr:
Carl
Sagan - 'A Glorious Dawn' ft Stephen Hawking (Symphony of
Science) | length
3m 35s | Likes:
82618 Dislikes:
1139 Views:
9751835 | by
melodysheep
L506[07:58:52] <bawr> right in the
feels
L507[08:03:02] <Inari> omg
L508[08:03:08] <Inari> you can make police
drones by flashing the lights
L509[08:03:30] <Inari> can drones
beep?
L510[08:04:03] <bawr> if they can't, I
know what I'm doing this weekend
L511[08:05:36] <Lizzy> Inari: yes, they
can beep
L513[08:05:42] <MichiBot> bawr:
Lean on
the Wind - Swede Mason | length
3m 53s | Likes:
5220 Dislikes:
72 Views:
308625 | by swedemason
L514[08:05:55] <bawr> okay, enough youtube
links for today
L515[08:06:00] <Inari> woo
L516[08:06:03] <Inari> brb, making police
drones
L517[08:07:01] <bawr> Inari: double points
if they swarm up on a random player
L518[08:07:12] <Inari> :D great idea
L519[08:08:09] <Inari> wonder if i can
stick a cahtbox into them
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L521[08:10:36] <Inari> ~oc drone
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L525[08:21:32] <Inari> ~oc computer
L527[08:23:32] <Inari> hm meh, cant easily
keep beeping while flashing lgihts
L528[08:24:36] <Inari> guess i need beep
card
L529[08:27:40] <Inari> nope, beep card
wont help xD
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L532[08:34:50] <bawr> so, no beeps?
;_;
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L535[08:35:59] <S3> the link was broken on
the github
L536[08:41:13] <Inari> well it can beep,
but the beeps are kinda interrupted, which makes them sound
crappy
L537[08:42:02] <S3> I'm curious if I can
set the transmission distance of the projector
L538[08:42:10] <S3> so I can align it in
my base
L539[08:43:28] <Kodos|Zzz> It's so hot in
my house, I only slept 4 hours, and felt like 12
L541[08:44:32] <Kodos|Zzz> How badly do
you lag in that room
L542[08:44:38] <S3> not at all
L543[08:44:44] <S3> nobody has
L544[08:44:48] <reinei> S3: all those
carpenters blocks, aren't they huge render hogs?
L545[08:45:11] <S3> reinei, you know I
wondered about that, but it seems the render issues are when you
initially place them
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L547[08:45:14] <S3> after that it's no big
deal
L548[08:45:21] <S3> once the alpha is
baked in the live renderer
L549[08:45:36] <reinei> ah
L550[08:45:39] <S3> meaning that there is
a very slight latency placing each block
L551[08:45:46] <S3> but there's over 2000
carpenters blocks in this building
L552[08:47:10] <S3> however, not
carpenters issue, but I discovered a huge memory leak when
replacing blocks surrounding malisis garage doors with carpenter
blocks.
L553[08:47:16] <S3> caused by tile entity
issues.
L554[08:47:43] <S3> But it appears malisis
doors is in really bad shape anyways.
L555[08:47:50] <reinei> AE2 is a
memory-black-hole for me
L556[08:48:06] <S3> I've had no issues
with that either but I have 16GB of ram
L557[08:48:16] <reinei> I too have
16GB
L559[08:48:23] <reinei> but only ever use
8GB for MC
L560[08:48:31] <S3> yeah, I brought it
down to 6 recently
L561[08:48:44] <S3> I think last I heard
windows has an issue giving you more than 8 anyways for MC
L562[08:48:48] <reinei> and when you can
see memory usage climb to 99% then drop to 79% to repeat
L563[08:48:54] <S3> on my *nix box I can
give it all of it cept a few megs
L565[08:49:31] <Kodos|Zzz> You should
never need more than 4
L566[08:49:36] <Kodos|Zzz> Unless you run
200+ mods, or have memory leaks
L567[08:49:53] <S3> reinei, I'm really
frustrated. We should have these sort of issues. The whole root of
this problem has been that dynamic memory was cheaper in the 80s
and therefore the way to go.
L568[08:49:56] <Kodos|Zzz> In which case
you should tell mod devs to stop being bad
L569[08:49:58] <S3> but, was slower than
the processor.
L570[08:50:31] <S3> now we wait like 50
cycles + just to hear back from memory, and even if its cached,
there's still a massive latency
L571[08:50:51] <S3> but due to the design
of x86, you can thank them for that
L572[08:51:22] <S3> we have about 200 mods
if not more on our server.
L573[08:51:32] <S3> in response to
Kodos|Zzz
L575[08:53:08] <S3> lot of blocks
heh
L576[08:53:27] <S3> it envelops a little
tunnel in front
L577[08:55:07] <S3> By the way has anyone
ever chiseled iron bars on carpenters fence?
L578[08:55:18] <S3> it looks like you're
going to get ripped apart if you touch it :P
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L580[08:58:31] <Kodos|Zzz> I've always
wanted security in the form of, or like, those flowers from that
one movie
L581[08:58:38] <Kodos|Zzz> Too hot to
remember what movie
L583[08:59:04] <Kodos|Zzz> Floating
flowers came down, someone touched one and they pretty much
dissolved
L584[08:59:16] <Kodos|Zzz> The person, not
the flower
L585[08:59:42] <bawr> arrrrrrrrrrrrgh,
someone kill me. a co-worker is out of the blue insisting that
Angry Birds was a "revolutionary game with physics that
haven't been done before".
L586[08:59:54] <bawr> MUST... NOT...
CONVERSE...
L587[09:00:07] *
Naegi lends you his chainsaw.
L588[09:00:13] <Naegi> Go do what you have
to do, bawr.
L589[09:00:21] *
bawr sighs
L590[09:00:25] <bawr> see you at the
trial!
L591[09:00:37] <Naegi> I'll say you didn't
do it.
L593[09:00:49] <S3> bawr, what
L594[09:00:51] <dangranos> veeeery
useful
L595[09:01:37] <S3> bawr, tell him the
best physics ever was marble madness, and that it's best played
with a rumble hack and an electric chair.
L596[09:01:55] <S3> lol jk
L597[09:04:47] <bawr> S3: I think I'll
just grab my headphones instead.
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L599[09:05:04] <bawr> First rule: *never*
listen to anyone in marketing.
L600[09:05:20] <S3> bawr, your headphones
eh?
L601[09:05:47] <S3> I just recently got
some new headphones which would NOT help that, but I have a pair
that would REALLY help as well
L603[09:06:36] <S3> once you got em on you
can't hear anything :P
L604[09:10:16] <bawr> most
excellent.
L605[09:10:57] <S3> they're from the
70s
L607[09:12:14] <Naegi> bawr : Didn't you
know the essential rule of "Never listen to marketing"
?
L608[09:12:44] <bawr> Naegi: honestly, I
take my headphones off and go to grab a bite for one goddamn
minute
L609[09:12:46] *
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L611[09:16:38] <S3> hmm. I wonder if I can
make the holo projector wireless and have it suspend with funky
locomotion
L612[09:16:57] <S3> then I could have it
come up from underneath the floor and adjust its height before
projecting
L613[09:18:41] <vifino> Good morning
people.
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L617[09:26:54] <S3> OMG funky locomotion
beats RP2 so much
L618[09:29:20] <bawr> S3: give remain in
motion a try someday, it's also most excellent.
L619[09:30:12] <S3> oh really?
L620[09:31:51] <bawr> definitely allows
for smaller builds, I mean, if I'm getting frames at all, I can't
be arsed to put up with this "engine pushing an engine"
bullshit
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L624[09:33:51] <micheel6> Hello, anyone
here knows of any good OpenComputer servers?
L625[09:33:57] <S3> are there any included
programs to test the holo projector real quick?
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L627[09:34:29] <bawr> loot disk /
geolyzer?
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L630[09:38:08] <S3> don't see a specific
disk in nei but heh
L632[09:40:08] <S3> yeah I found it
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L635[09:44:55] <S3> does the editor in
openos have a paste feature?
L636[09:45:05] <S3> aha right click
L637[09:45:10] <S3> just like gpm
L638[09:45:36] <S3> doesn't work in the
editor though, lol
L639[09:45:45] <S3> oh its middle click,
like X nvm :)
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L642[09:54:04] <S3> Looking for a list of
colors in OC.. I wonder if it follows the colors MS-DOS used to
have
L643[09:54:09] <dangranos> awesome
L644[09:54:09] <S3> for the 16 color
screen pallette
L645[09:54:17] <bawr> S3: you could always
edit your OC drive from outside the game
L646[09:54:23] <bawr> requires reloading
the world, though
L647[09:54:26] <S3> yeah but too much
work
L648[09:54:31] *
dangranos just found iocc program that makes mouse pointer
"slide"
L649[09:54:35] <S3> bawr, really? CC
doesn't, that's too bad.
L650[09:54:38] <dangranos> *ioccc
L651[09:54:45] <dangranos> nope
L652[09:54:48] <dangranos> not reloading
world
L653[09:54:52] *
dangranos slpas bawr
L654[09:54:55] <dangranos> just take out
hdd
L655[09:54:57] <S3> must be how it
accesses it
L656[09:54:57] <vifino> Anybody else going
to the CCC?
L657[09:55:03] <bawr> dangranos: I stand
corrected
L658[09:55:09] *
dangranos slaps bawr
L659[09:55:09] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L660[09:55:11] <bawr> vifino:
maaaaybe
L661[09:55:16] <dangranos> CCC?
L662[09:55:18] <dangranos> what's
it?
L663[09:55:22] <vifino> bawr: I'll be
there, meet me :3
L664[09:55:37] <bawr> vifino: we'll see,
I'll be there if I get that new job in Berlin xD
L665[09:55:59] <vifino> bawr: only a few
days left :P
L666[09:56:40] <bawr> vifino: well, option
(2) is that I drop by a friend of mine and stay there, so... well,
again, we'll see xD
L667[09:57:02] <vifino> :D
L668[09:57:04] <dangranos> oh god
L669[09:57:08] <bawr> but if I had that
set in stone I woud've just said "yes", not
"maybe" xD
L670[09:57:16] <dangranos> 0.9 friction
for mosue pointer = hell
L671[09:57:20] <dangranos> *mouse
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L674[09:59:00] <micheel6> hey does anyone
have a good oc server?
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L678[10:12:17] ***
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L681[10:15:39] <vifino> Morning,
Vexatos.
L682[10:15:55] <Vexatos> Good
afternoon
L683[10:17:42] <Kamran> hey vifino
L684[10:17:49] <vifino> Hello.
L686[10:18:27] <vifino> Meet me
there.
L687[10:19:49] <Vexatos> Chaos
Communication Camp?
L688[10:19:50] <Vexatos> Sooo
L689[10:19:58] <Vexatos> a CCC made by the
CCC?
L690[10:20:19] <gamax92> .de/
L691[10:20:29] <gamax92> i cannot
L692[10:21:02] <vifino> Vexatos:
Yes.
L693[10:21:25] <Vexatos> Which federal
country is that in
L694[10:22:02] <vifino> CCC is in
germany.
L695[10:22:35] <Vexatos> I said federal
country
L696[10:22:37] <Vexatos> not country
:P
L697[10:22:50] <Vexatos>
lrn2bundesland
L698[10:23:15] <vifino> q_q
L699[10:23:18] <vifino> hell if i
knew
L700[10:23:25] <vifino> Berlin.
L701[10:23:31] <vifino> Mildenberg.
L702[10:24:44] <gamax92> ;-; neck, stop
hurting
L703[10:24:45] <Vexatos> meh
L704[10:25:04] <Vexatos> Hmm
L705[10:25:21] <vifino> Vexatos: It's
gonna be awesome, and you get to meet me in person! :)
L707[10:26:04] <Vexatos> I can't decide
;_;
L708[10:26:19] <vifino> Vexatos: Last
one?
L709[10:26:50] <Vexatos> vifino, 1) I am
17. 2) It's 6 hours from where I live. 3) It's summer. and hot. And
I am pretty much unable to leave my room when it's above 30°C
L710[10:27:32] <vifino> Vexatos: 1) I am
neither 18. 2) I live in frankfurt, so it's gonna take a while too.
3) Yes. Get a cooling thing :c
L711[10:27:52] <gamax92> :O
L712[10:27:55] <gamax92> Vexatos is
babby
L713[10:27:57] <Vexatos> thing about the
sheet is that I'm not even sure whether to use staccato.... there
is no audible difference between a staccato 8th and a
16th+pause
L714[10:28:21] <Vexatos> not at Allegro
speed, that is
L715[10:28:25] <Vexatos> (135 bpm)
L716[10:28:27] <dangranos> XD
L718[10:28:37] <dangranos> "It
requires a few minutes."
L719[10:28:48] <Vexatos> err 132
L720[10:28:49] <dangranos> "5,18s
user 0,05s system 99% cpu 5,275 total"
L722[10:31:10] <dangranos> heh
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L725[10:32:48] <MichiBot> Inari:
Julianabrug stort neer | length
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L727[10:38:18] <dangranos> HOW MANY OF
THEM DO YOU HAVE?!
L728[10:40:38] <dangranos> huh
L729[10:41:01] <dangranos> perl is still
"perl 5" even in 2000?
L730[10:57:49] <Kamran> dangranos:
yep
L731[10:58:28] <Kamran> dangranos: its
been perl 5 since the 90s dude
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L737[12:09:45] <dangranos> ._.
L738[12:09:46] <dangranos> "warning:
Memory read failed for corefile section, 8192 bytes at
0x7ffd564f2000."
L739[12:09:54] <dangranos> but
root...
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L741[12:13:30] <bawr> bad ram? :<
L742[12:13:41] <bawr> jump on the
memtest86+ train
L743[12:13:55] <gamax92> memtest64+
L744[12:18:18] <Inari> sheesh stop using
such outdated tings
L745[12:18:20] <Inari> memtest 2015
L746[12:18:56] <dangranos> ._.
L747[12:18:58] <gamax92> Inari: could be
worse
L748[12:19:07] <dangranos> how do i boot
into it though?
L749[12:19:39] <dangranos> hm
L750[12:19:55] <dangranos> i think that's
not corrupt memory but some security feature, maybe
L751[12:20:15] <gamax92> don't lie to
yourself to make it seem better ...
L752[12:23:06] <bawr> booting from
linux?
L753[12:23:18] <bawr> unetbootin is
simplest if your distro packages it
L754[12:23:30] <bawr> on windows, uuh,
Rufus
L755[12:23:37] <bawr> + a memtest iso,
just google that
L756[12:24:59] *
dangranos sighs
L757[12:25:14] <dangranos> maybe you
caould give advice why the hell i cant suspend?
L758[12:25:15] <vifino> Woo. I got my PS
Vita homebrew-ready :)
L759[12:25:41] <vifino> I'm like, one of
the 100 who did that.
L760[12:25:42] <dangranos> computer just
turns back on after i suspend it
L761[12:25:58] <dangranos> vifino,
*star.png*
L762[12:26:23] <gamax92>
vifino.jpg.jpg
L763[12:26:35] <Inari>
vifino.gif.exe
L764[12:26:59] <dangranos>
vifino.notavirus..gif.zip.exe
L765[12:27:03] <dangranos> ugh
L766[12:27:13] <gamax92> xexgpj.exe
L767[12:27:24] <CompanionCube>
cat.jpg.pif
L768[12:27:35] <vifino> gamax92: You are
missing rlo.
L769[12:27:51] <gamax92> vifino: I have an
RLO, your client must strip it
L770[12:28:00] <vifino> It doesn't.
L771[12:28:06] <vifino> It shows up as a
blank space.
L772[12:28:12] <dangranos> rlo?
L774[12:29:04] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
The Mother of All Suspicious Files Posted on: 8/5/2013
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L776[12:43:04] <CompanionCube> if only
xkcd 806 was real
L777[12:44:37] <bawr> I've never known a
techie to call a support line if he/she could avoid it
L778[12:45:07] <bawr> delegating an
ineitable call to someone lower on the technology foodchain is
always a valid solution in my book
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L783[12:50:27] <dangranos> wat
L784[12:50:44] <dangranos> ah
L785[12:50:52] <bawr> what did you break
now
L786[12:51:20] <dangranos> -std=c99 doesnt
likes __FILE__ macros
L787[12:52:00] <dangranos> i think?
L788[12:52:36] <bawr> wha
L789[12:52:57] <bawr> lemme spin up my vm,
I really think it whould work
L791[12:53:12] <dangranos> after i edited
line 2-4
L792[12:55:46] <bawr> works here with no
edits
L793[12:55:51] <bawr> did you rename the
.c file?
L794[12:56:00] <dangranos> no
L795[12:56:06] <bawr> 'cause looking at
the source, that won't work so well
L796[12:56:10] <dangranos> how did you
compiled?
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L798[12:56:46] <bawr> straight-up
gcc
L799[12:57:23] <bawr> but ehh
L800[12:57:41] <bawr> by "edit"
did you mean you moved any of the lines around?
L801[12:58:29] <dangranos> no
L802[12:58:56] <dangranos> i rplace H(*)
with <st*.h>
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L804[13:06:25] <Magik6k> ~w redstone
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L808[13:44:19] <maguire> sup
L809[13:44:37] <maguire> answer
me...
L810[13:45:50] <gamax92> no
L811[13:46:05] <maguire> wow thanks
dude
L812[13:46:15] <gamax92> don't just
fucking prance in here demanding that people talk to you
L813[13:46:27] <maguire> you don't fucking
talk to me like that dipshit
L814[13:46:31] <maguire> I will fucking
destroy you
L815[13:46:39] <vifino> Both of you, calm
down.
L816[13:46:49] <gamax92> maguire: what
makes you so special
L817[13:47:03] <maguire> gaymax69 what
makes you so fucking annoying
L818[13:47:21] <asie> maguire: you need to
learn that we on the internet employ sarcasm heavily
L819[13:47:26] <gamax92> that's who I am,
nice to meet you
L820[13:47:31] <vifino> ...
L821[13:47:39] <asie> and that we don't
deal kindly to people who try to send the spotlight to them
L822[13:47:45] <maguire> yes, I been on
the internet long enough...
L823[13:47:49] <asie> there's 140 of us
here, you're not special and IRC is essentially "introvert
relay chat"
L824[13:47:51] <maguire> I still don't
care...
L825[13:48:02] <asie> if you don't care,
then why do you seek attention so much?
L826[13:48:12] <maguire> I don't I was
just wondering if the thing freaking worked
L827[13:48:31] <asie> so ask "can you
hear me?" or something that makes your intent obviou
L829[13:48:46] <gamax92> also this is the
first time I've seen asie talking without having been mentioned
beforehand
L830[13:48:50] <maguire> some thing... no
need to get your fucking panties in a bucch
L831[13:49:10] <asie> maguire: it's bunch,
and i'm wearing my normal pants righ tnow
L832[13:49:25] <maguire> asie your a
fucking handfull arent you...
L833[13:49:34] <asie> no, i'm not a
/fucking/ handful
L834[13:49:38] <asie> if anything i'm a
regular handful
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L836[13:49:56] <maguire> Your a smart
ass...
L837[13:50:05] <vifino> You're*
L838[13:50:19] <maguire> Fine then you
guys wan't to test your knowledge?
L839[13:50:27] <vifino> want*
L840[13:50:30] *
CompanionCube smells a high level of 'dick' in the air
L841[13:50:41] <asie> maguire: knowledge
in what?
L842[13:50:47] <asie> all we do here is
hang out and overdose Lua scripting
L843[13:50:55] <maguire> I made a simple
script that encrypt's messages, you wanna try to crack my
cypher?
L844[13:51:08] <asie> we cannot know for
sure if the cipher exists
L845[13:51:12] <asie> but sure why
not
L846[13:51:20] <asie> keep in mind that a
good cipher is uncrackable even if you have the source code
L847[13:51:32] <asie> like RSA, or
AES
L848[13:51:34] <maguire> don't worry it is
fucking ancient...
L849[13:51:39] <CompanionCube> (also, fyi
people that DIY encryption is usually flawed and/or simply
crap)
L850[13:51:51] <asie> (yes, just say no to
encryption as a learning experiment in production
L851[13:51:59] <asie> (fun fact: openssl
was a c++ learning experiment)
L852[13:52:07] <asie> (or c? not
sure)
L853[13:52:20] <maguire> Hzpl pm fvb ylhk
aopz fvby h mbjrpun hzzovsl dpao uv myplukz huk fvb zovbsk
kpl
L854[13:52:30] <vifino> asie: C,
definitly
L855[13:52:30] <asie> >caesar
L856[13:52:34] <asie> i hope it's not
caesar.
L857[13:52:34] <maguire> yup...
L858[13:52:38] <maguire> it is...
L859[13:52:46] <maguire> read the
message.
L860[13:52:58] <maguire> ask me for the
key
L861[13:53:03] <maguire> when you need
it
L862[13:53:20] <vifino> "Asie if you
read this your a fucking asshole with no friends and you should
dieAsie if you read this your a fucking asshole with no friends and
you should die", 7
L863[13:53:29] <maguire> good
L864[13:53:32] <maguire> he got
it...
L865[13:53:34] <asie> maguire: i'm no
asshole
L866[13:53:37] <vifino> woops, pasted it
twice
L867[13:53:38] <asie> i'm just pointing
out that you're acting a bit snarky
L868[13:53:39] <CompanionCube> Can't
caesar ciphers be trivially broken with frequency analysis?
L869[13:53:52] <vifino> CompanionCube:
Shhh, totally did not do that
L870[13:53:55] <maguire> yea because it's
over 1000 years old..
L871[13:54:06] <vifino> No.
L872[13:54:07] <asie> maguire: more than
that. also, you will never destroy anyone
L873[13:54:08] <gamax92> >_> you
could have use ANYTHING better
L874[13:54:16] <gamax92> but you used a
ceaser cipher
L875[13:54:23] <maguire> I know I wanted
to it be easy!
L876[13:54:28] <asie> trying to destroy
people is a bad sign and if you want to "fucking destroy"
people and make them "die" you should seek psychiatric
help
L877[13:54:47] <maguire> asie, I would
like to just....
L878[13:55:02] <maguire> You know I am
going to be the better person, and not destroy you.
L879[13:55:05] <maguire> This
time...
L880[13:55:12] <asie> maguire: and now
you're making yourself sound superior
L881[13:55:13] <vifino> lolyou
L882[13:55:16] <vifino> loldestroy
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L884[13:55:20] <asie> you're not special
for not destroying me, in fact i'll let you destroy me right
now!
L885[13:55:23] <asie> my IP is
78.88.175.222
L886[13:55:26] <maguire> superior?? trust
me, you all know i am.
L887[13:55:38] <CompanionCube> asie, you
should start wireshark
L888[13:55:46] <asie> CompanionCube: i
have a good router.
L889[13:55:48] <maguire> I got
vpn...
L890[13:55:56] <maguire> wireshark won't
do shit
L891[13:56:01] <asie> yes it will
L892[13:56:03] <CompanionCube> asie: would
be fun to see what they try
L893[13:56:05] <maguire> starting
nmap...
L894[13:56:05] <asie> i wouldn't be
looking for your IP
L895[13:56:23] <vifino> I think we don't
have enough stupidity to fight maguire.
L896[13:56:26] <CompanionCube>
>nmapping a router
L897[13:56:28] <vifino> Quick,
CompanionCube: Get the tumblerinas.
L898[13:56:31] <CompanionCube> mostly
pontless
L899[13:56:46] <maguire> no no no, guys
please... I been in the hacking game for long enough
L900[13:56:52] <CompanionCube> vifino,
wrong type of stupidity
L901[13:56:53] <XDjackieXD> maguire you
underestimate network forensics and a good router+internet
connection :P
L902[13:57:05] <vifino> maguire:
"""hacking"""
L903[13:57:06] <CompanionCube> we'd want
1337 windows users
L904[13:57:08] <vifino> >nmap
L905[13:57:10] <asie> CompanionCube: 1337
of them!?
L906[13:57:13] <asie> D:<
L907[13:57:19] <XDjackieXD> :P
L908[13:57:33] <maguire> fine
guys...
L909[13:57:45] <asie> maguire: it is good
to be humble
L910[13:57:49] <asie> it makes one feel
happy
L911[13:57:50] <maguire> To be honest, I
never hacked anyone other than using metapsloit...
L912[13:57:53] <asie> once they learn to
appreciate
L913[13:58:04] <asie> that sometimes
feeling equal to others is the nicer way
L914[13:58:08] <CompanionCube> Metasploit
is awesome.
L915[13:58:08] <vifino> maguire: Go do
that then, skiddie.
L916[13:58:09] <asie> because we're all
equal here
L917[13:58:09] <maguire> The only thing I
know how to do is SQLI and XSS
L918[13:58:11] <asie> well, except
Sangar
L919[13:58:12] <asie> Sangar's a
wizard
L920[13:58:14] <CompanionCube> Very, very
powerful
L921[13:58:23] <maguire> I am just a mear
skid..
L922[13:58:27] <gamax92> Scala
blackmagic
L923[13:58:28] <XDjackieXD> maguire using
metasploit is easy :P
L924[13:58:29] <maguire> I wan't to learn
the ways....
L925[13:58:29] <asie> maguire: don't do
this thing
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L927[13:58:36] <asie> you're doing the
"i'm superior -> i'm inferior" extremes
L928[13:58:38] <asie> that's not
good
L929[13:58:45] <vifino> ^
L930[13:58:47] <maguire> FUCK THIS ALOHA
SNACKBAR
L931[13:58:48] <asie> it probably
signifies some kind of depression, or self-hate
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L933[13:58:55] <gamax92> r.i.p
L934[13:58:56] <asie> ...or
trolling.
L935[13:58:58] <asie> :-)
L936[13:59:09] *
gamax92 claps for asie
L937[13:59:21] <XDjackieXD> :)
L938[13:59:32] *
CompanionCube was going to suggest he try a CTF
L939[13:59:49] <asie> he should begin at
something his level, CompanionCube
L940[13:59:53] <asie> ComputerCraft CTF
would be a good start
L941[13:59:55] <asie> *ba dum tss*
L942[14:00:35] <CompanionCube> I'm tempted
to post the log to bash.org
L943[14:00:38] <asie> CompanionCube:
no
L944[14:00:39] <asie> too lame
L945[14:00:44] <asie> bash.org is for
quality content
L946[14:00:52] <gamax92> heh
L947[14:01:00] <XDjackieXD> A ingame CTF
would be funny (I think you can do quite cool stuff using OC)
L948[14:01:13] <Inari> youtube hasa new
player :o
L949[14:01:28] <vifino> Inari: Oh, the
beta is default now?
L950[14:01:30] <gamax92> a new player has
entered the game?
L951[14:01:30] <vifino> Cool.
L952[14:01:39] <asie> XDjackieXD: hey,
that's not a bad idea
L953[14:01:41] <asie> Magik6k!!!
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L955[14:02:26] <CompanionCube> Who's going
to bet he comes back with another nick
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L957[14:03:29] <XDjackieXD> asie I would
love an CTF event using OC in game. Maybe with a beginner tut for
noobs :)
L958[14:04:04] <gamax92> plan9k is
amazing, I sorta want to code specifically for it
L959[14:04:27] <Negi> I haven't got around
to use it yet.
L960[14:05:34] <XDjackieXD> have more
experience with the OC API than using OC ingame :P
L961[14:06:18] <Negi> Well as long as you
know how to Lua, it's just getting to use an API...
L962[14:06:58] <XDjackieXD> I know lua but
I want vim in game (I always press <esc>:wq to exit the
editor... :P)
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L964[14:07:21] <CompanionCube> XDjackieXD,
write vim?
L965[14:07:39] <Starhero-MC> yeah that
actually wouldn't be hard for basic features.
L966[14:07:50] <CompanionCube> the biggest
issue would be RAM
L967[14:07:53] <Kilobyte> asie: apart from
that, iirc bash.org no longer accepts new send-ins
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L969[14:08:03] <Kilobyte> as in, they just
never get accepted
L970[14:08:05] <XDjackieXD> CompanionCube
you can't use <esc> in OC because <esc> exits the
computer
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L972[14:08:17] <CompanionCube> XDjackieXD,
write pseudo-vim
L973[14:08:25] <XDjackieXD> meh
L974[14:08:32] <CompanionCube> i.e map esc
to another key
L975[14:08:40] <Kilobyte> i actually once
started something like vim
L976[14:08:41] <Negi> vim in OC wouldn't
even be a beginning of usable.
L977[14:08:45] <Kilobyte> its not really
done
L978[14:08:58] <XDjackieXD> I could write
something like rsync and sync to my server using a single command
and write the code using a real vim :P
L979[14:09:00] <Kilobyte> actually, not
even working properöly
L980[14:09:04] <Kilobyte> got
distracted
L981[14:09:14] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
implement sshfs jkjk
L982[14:09:26] <CompanionCube> or just
don't use fs buffering
L983[14:09:40] <XDjackieXD> CompanionCube
this wont work in MP
L984[14:10:01] <Negi> I wonder how hard it
would be to implement at least partially SSH.
L985[14:10:16] <Negi> If possible at
all.
L986[14:10:23] <Kilobyte> possible -
sure
L987[14:10:23] <bawr> most vim users remap
esc to ~ or caps lock, anyway, so
L988[14:10:24] <XDjackieXD> Negi ECDH
would be a pain in lua (unusable slow...)
L989[14:10:26] <bawr> problem solved
L990[14:10:33] <gamax92> I don't entirely
get the whole thing about wanting to write alternative editors for
OC
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L992[14:10:48] <Kilobyte> gamax92: its
default editor works, but is a pain to use imo
L993[14:10:57] <Kilobyte> and sometimes
its faster to do editing ingame
L994[14:11:01] <bawr> gamax92: dunno, all
I did to my editor was add a save warning and rudimentary
backup
L995[14:11:17] <bawr> and it was usable
enough for quick testing
L996[14:11:18] <gamax92> yeah so, both of
what you said were features and not the editing part itself
L997[14:11:36] <bawr> IIRC I also made
some key bindings more nano-like
L998[14:11:50] <bawr> because muscle
memory, and I sure as shit ain't reimplementing vim
L1000[14:12:27] <gamax92> my main issue
is that OC is too slow graphically, you hold down a key and see 4
show up at a time
L1001[14:12:45] <XDjackieXD> gamax92
exactly...
L1002[14:13:12] <gamax92> term and edit
do this, my nano clone did this, and luaide feels even more
sluggish which, no matter how many time Kodos says to port it I'm
not going to
L1003[14:15:20] <Negi> And if you write
so that no keystrokes get eaten, and that there isn't too much that
show up, you're not productive at all.
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L1005[14:16:08] <Kilobyte> well, i'd say
an ingame editor is basicly only for config editing or quick
programs on a server
L1006[14:17:21] <bawr> Negi: why
implement SSH, just take a java / scala SSH lib binding and export
it as an API / peripheral / whatever
L1007[14:17:32] <Negi> bawr: That's not
interesting.
L1008[14:17:37] <Negi> Also a bit
cheaty.
L1009[14:17:46] <Negi> AND not the
point.
L1010[14:17:50] <gamax92> we need an
editor addon :3
L1011[14:17:56] <bawr> Implementing
actual crypto in Lua is...
L1012[14:18:01] <bawr> well I can find
many words
L1013[14:18:05] <bawr> but interesting is
not one of them
L1014[14:18:12] <gamax92> bawr:
interesting is one of them
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L1016[14:18:20] <XDjackieXD> or an ftp
block which mounts an ftp server as fs?
L1017[14:18:36] <gamax92> lua's high
levelness can make it difficult to translate various things
properly
L1018[14:18:36] <vifino> lolno
L1019[14:19:01] <gamax92> ftp is annoying
.-.
L1020[14:19:19] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
thats actually somewhat doable
L1021[14:19:23] <Kilobyte> but gamax is
right
L1022[14:19:29] <Kilobyte> ftp isn't
really best protocol
L1023[14:19:33] <bawr> gamax92: meh, I
won't press the issue, if someone wants to do it, their
funreal
L1024[14:19:54] <Kilobyte> and good
crypto in pure lua is pretty slow
L1025[14:19:55] <XDjackieXD> sftp would
be better :P
L1026[14:20:01] <gamax92> servers give
you listings in arbitrary formats, sometimes don't react the same
way to various commands, etc etc
L1027[14:20:11] <Kilobyte> but that
requires implementation of ssh (or at least parts)
L1028[14:20:27] <gamax92> ssl sockets for
OC!
L1029[14:20:29] <Kilobyte> you'd probably
want to roll something custom for such a thing
L1030[14:20:44] <Kilobyte> gamax92: thats
actually something that sounds somewhat reasonable
L1031[14:20:49] <Kilobyte> to be
implemented scala side
L1032[14:20:50] <bawr> Kilobyte: how do I
put it
L1033[14:21:01] <bawr> implementing
crypto sounds interesting in theory
L1034[14:21:03] <gamax92> Kilobyte: this
has been suggested several times though .-.
L1035[14:21:11] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte I
went an addon block/component which connects to an server and
presents itself to a computer as storage
L1036[14:21:12] <bawr> in practice, it's
just a world of pain
L1037[14:21:19] <XDjackieXD> *ment
L1038[14:21:42] <bawr> been there, done
that, read the RFCs, hated ASN with a passion, got the
t-shirt
L1039[14:21:52] <gamax92> I implemented a
dfpwm encoder (and decoder?) in lua once
L1040[14:22:10] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: so
basicly a filesystem component that uses remote backend?
L1041[14:22:16] <Kilobyte> nah, not a fan
of it
L1042[14:22:33] <gamax92> then found out
the C and Java implementations give different output for the same
files
L1043[14:22:38] <Kilobyte> make a simple
file transfer protocol, implement server + client.
L1044[14:22:40] *
gamax92 glances as asie
L1045[14:22:44] <gamax92> at*
L1046[14:22:56] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte but
the only real possibility for sftp because implementing ssh in lua
= pain
L1047[14:23:16] <Kilobyte> you can just
use something custom
L1048[14:23:32] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
simple file transfer without crypto over internet = bad idea...
:/
L1049[14:23:47] <gamax92> XDjackieXD:
that addon idea has already been done without an addon
L1050[14:23:55] <Kilobyte> its only for
oc, so not THAT big issue
L1051[14:23:57] <Negi> XDjackieXD: Like
you're going to transfer top secret info to a virtual computer in a
game.
L1052[14:24:28] <XDjackieXD> an ssl/tls
crypto addon would be nice :P (https \o/)
L1053[14:24:29] <Kilobyte> also, there
are pure lua crypto libs
L1054[14:24:35] <Kilobyte> they are just
painfully slow
L1055[14:24:45] <bawr> it's all fun and
games until someone gets actually hacked xD
L1056[14:25:08] <XDjackieXD> bawr that's
why I want to avoid unencrypted, bi-directional file
transfer...
L1057[14:25:11] <Kilobyte> bawr: to be
fair, if you only push data to oc, the problem is not THAT
bad
L1058[14:25:24] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: i
am only thinking about pull :P
L1059[14:25:30] <Kilobyte> for push i do
agree
L1060[14:25:34] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte the
idea is to have bi-directional remote-fs...
L1061[14:25:38] <bawr> Kilobyte: in
practice, any system gets used and extended to its breaking
point
L1062[14:25:46] <Kilobyte> mhm
L1063[14:25:47] <bawr> so well
L1064[14:26:16] <bawr> call me cynical,
but I'd rather not have that around in an unencrypted form
L1065[14:26:26] <bawr> or even
"custom crypto" form, for that matter ;)
L1066[14:27:22] <XDjackieXD> bawr maybe I
will add an sl/tls addon to my addon mod (OpenRadio. fits the
comunication stuff at least a bit :P)
L1067[14:27:27] <XDjackieXD>
*ssl/tls
L1068[14:27:40] <gamax92> XDjackieXD:
oooooooh, whats it do
L1069[14:27:50] <Negi> I think it has
lasers or something
L1070[14:27:51] <bawr> XDjackieXD: well
if you want an encrypted bi-directional transfer, exposing (as
opposed to reimplementing) an actual ssl / sftp API seems the most
reasonable
L1071[14:27:53] <bawr> but well
L1072[14:27:58] <bawr> not enough nerd
cred, I know
L1073[14:27:59] <bawr> xD
L1075[14:28:27] <ThePotato> to send files
it should be as easy as broadcasting back the file contents
L1076[14:28:31] <Negi> SSL would be okay
to expose, but...it's just SFTP/SSH directly that bothers me?
L1077[14:28:36] <ThePotato> taking the
file contents and name and saving
L1078[14:28:47] <ThePotato> if were
talking about oc
L1079[14:28:47] <XDjackieXD> gamax92
nowhere near done but it is working :P
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L1081[14:29:06] <Negi> ThePotato: We're
talking about internet transmission.
L1082[14:29:11] <ThePotato> oh
L1083[14:29:12] <bawr> Negi: my general
point is
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L1085[14:29:29] <bawr> if you give people
SSL, and they end up reimplementing SFTP rokenly on top of it
L1086[14:29:29] <bawr> well
L1087[14:29:36] <bawr> you made a bad
call in the first place
L1088[14:29:36] <bawr> xD
L1089[14:29:51] <Negi>
"rokenly" ?
L1090[14:29:54] <bawr> and this
discussion *did* sart off with remote fs access
L1091[14:29:55] <gamax92> brokenly
L1092[14:29:57] <bawr> brokenly
L1093[14:30:15] <asie> gamax92: both
implementations were done by the same person
L1094[14:30:33] <gamax92> oh, i thought
one was labeled as you and one was labeled as GM
L1095[14:30:37] <Negi> Well once you have
SSL given to you, I doubt you can break SFTP much...
L1096[14:31:02] <asie> it's just that one
accepts unsigned and the other accepts signed 8-bit data
L1097[14:31:04] <asie> or something
L1098[14:31:11] <gamax92> no no no, not
that
L1099[14:31:30] <gamax92> when you feed
it proper data ofc, you'll still get very subtle differences
L1100[14:32:19] <bawr> uhh, SFTP runs on
top of SSH, not bare SSL
L1101[14:32:22] <bawr> I'm pretty
sure
L1102[14:32:29] <XDjackieXD> bawr
correct
L1103[14:32:33] <bawr> so yes
L1104[14:32:35] <XDjackieXD>
ssh/scp
L1105[14:32:41] <bawr> you can break it
pretty much
L1106[14:32:44] <gamax92> i just want ssl
for svn
L1107[14:33:05] <XDjackieXD> I want some
form of secure, remote fs :P
L1108[14:33:06] <bawr> not even getting
into "hey, I don't know what RC4 is, but I'll enable it in the
cipher list"
L1109[14:33:06] <bawr> xD
L1110[14:33:12] <XDjackieXD> XD
L1111[14:33:12] <Negi> If encryption is
the problem for SSH, pretty sure the needed algorithms could be
added to something like the Data Card.
L1112[14:33:26] <gamax92> the data card
doesn't do streams though
L1113[14:33:31] <gamax92> it just does
chunks of data
L1114[14:33:41] <Negi> :7
L1115[14:34:10] <gamax92> also where is
Kodos
L1116[14:34:40] <bawr> >svn
L1117[14:34:41] <bawr> wait
L1118[14:34:44] <bawr> wait wait
wait
L1119[14:34:51] <bawr> I wasn't supposed
to get into religious debates
L1120[14:34:56] *
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L1121[14:35:40] *
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L1122[14:36:10] <gamax92> I aint using
github's awful api that's limited
L1123[14:36:11] <bawr> it's sure more
healthy than debates about DSCS vd CSCS, that's for sure ;)
L1124[14:36:23] <bawr> *vs
L1125[14:36:39] <XDjackieXD> gamax92 just
use your own git?
L1126[14:37:04] <gamax92> ?
L1127[14:37:15] <gamax92> my own git
server?
L1128[14:37:25] <XDjackieXD> if you don't
like GitHub...
L1129[14:37:37] <gamax92> I like github,
just not it's api
L1130[14:37:37] <bawr> hey, post-commit
hooks can do whatever you want
L1131[14:37:44] <bawr> also
L1132[14:37:50] <bawr> how is SVN
bet-
L1133[14:37:50] <gamax92> nor do i have
any place to host a git server
L1134[14:37:52] <bawr> waaait no
L1135[14:37:54] <bawr> no no no
L1136[14:37:57] <bawr> bad bawr
L1137[14:38:00] <bawr> no religious
debates
L1138[14:38:01] <bawr> xD
L1139[14:39:04] <gamax92> bawr: it's not
rate limited
L1140[14:39:38] <gamax92> I'm also not
talking about git vs svn so shut the fuck up with your
"religious debates"
L1141[14:39:50] <gamax92> I'm just
talking about using svn as an alternative to github's api
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L1145[14:41:12] <XDjackieXD> gamax92 have
you every used clearcase? :P clearcase can do MANY things but if
you don't know them you can screw things up in seconds XD
L1146[14:42:37] <gamax92> I haven't
L1147[14:43:55] <XDjackieXD> My dad used
it for years at work (he managed and compiled the sources of
hundreds of devs) and they had some really strange cases of devs
screwing the repo up XD
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L1149[14:45:52] <bawr> gamax92: woah,
woah, woah, put a limit on the negativity expressed
L1150[14:46:01] <gamax92> :s
L1151[14:46:29] <bawr> I'm, like,
*specifically* not looking to stir shit or ruffle any feathers here
xD
L1152[14:47:17] <bawr> it was just odd to
me how SVN and Git*Hub* are even compared here, that's like
comparing, I don't know, some specific garage band vs Spotify as a
whole
L1153[14:47:36] <XDjackieXD> XD
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L1155[14:54:10] <Abbsence> So why is this
a thing
L1156[14:54:28] <gamax92> Abbsence:
WocChat?
L1157[14:54:28] <Starhero-MC> What is a
thing?
L1158[14:54:32] <gamax92> or this irc
channel
L1159[14:54:40] <bawr> or this mod
L1160[14:54:45] <Abbsence> The ability to
talk to other people through Minecraft
L1161[14:54:46] <bawr> or this
socioeconomic system
L1162[14:55:05] <bawr> because some
people like talking to people
L1163[14:55:09] <bawr> they also like
minecraft
L1164[14:55:37] <Abbsence> Makes
sense
L1165[14:55:44] <XDjackieXD> :P
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L1167[14:56:17] <gamax92> bawr: Yes, I
have anger issues if you couldn't tell, and no therapist to help
for that
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L1169[14:57:25] <bawr> XDjackieXD: ooooh,
you even invluded actual builds in the github repo <3
L1170[14:57:56] <bawr> XDjackieXD: I
can't remember a single time when just cloning an mc mod repo would
build it in one step with no tweaks and missing bullshit
L1171[14:58:11] <gamax92> I can, several
times
L1172[14:58:36] <gamax92> most of my
repo's, OC's repo, asie's repos, Mimiru's repos
L1173[14:58:50] <gamax92> Definitely not
Reika's repos
L1174[14:58:50] <bawr> well, I haven't
hacked on those (yet)
L1175[14:58:56] <gamax92> holy shit that
was annoying
L1176[14:59:05] <XDjackieXD> bawr: the
latest build should be working :P (and why on earth is the AE2
maven broken .-. I hate manual adding libs...)
L1177[14:59:07] <gamax92> no gradle
setup, thousands of not included dependencies
L1178[14:59:48] <bawr> gamax92: I think I
flipped the table and gave up on Reika's the least time I
tried
L1179[14:59:55] <bawr> *last
L1180[15:00:00] <gamax92> I used a
bytecode editor instead :P
L1181[15:00:08] <bawr> heh
L1182[15:00:22] <bawr> you're reminding
me of terraria
L1183[15:00:53] <bawr> where I used Cecil
(basically a huge decompiler lib) to fix some annoyances in their
(closed-source) mod loader
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L1185[15:01:25] *
bawr sighs
L1186[15:01:42] <gamax92> oh, .net
decompiler?
L1187[15:02:00] <bawr> think more along
the lines of an assembly editor library
L1188[15:03:18] <bawr> how is it that
like 90% of mod-driven games out there have horrible modding
support out of the box, and the scenario is always the same -
someone bites the bullet and writes a huge-ass mod-loader library
which everyone uses, and the original game never really gets more
welcoming to mods, because hey, there's this library you can use,
not our problem
L1189[15:03:32] <bawr> (and no, resource
packs don't count as mods xD)
L1190[15:03:51] <gamax92> I've never
played terraria
L1191[15:04:37] <bawr> terraria has their
forge equivalent, I haven't checked on KSP in a while, but I think
they're still not there, instead everyone rolls their own
still
L1192[15:04:51] <bawr> don't quote me on
that, though
L1193[15:05:07] <gamax92> I've never
played KSP either
L1194[15:05:17] <bawr> (except Terraria's
Forge equivalent is closed-source / by invitation only /
whatever)
L1195[15:05:55] <bawr> gamax92: you are,
however, aware that such games exist and get modded every which
way? ;P
L1196[15:06:03] <gamax92> you know what a
great idea is? pulling ram chips out of a computer while its
running
L1197[15:06:15] <gamax92> hotplugging
not-hotplug pci cards
L1198[15:06:24] <gamax92> removing a bios
chip while it's running
L1199[15:06:32] <gamax92> applying 12
volts to ram
L1200[15:06:47] <XDjackieXD> gamax92 my
server supports ram-hotswapping if ram-mirror is enabled
L1201[15:07:09] <bawr> XDjackieXD: cool.
but does it blend?
L1202[15:07:17] <bawr> s/blend/have
ECC
L1203[15:07:17] <Kibibyte> <bawr>
XDjackieXD: cool. but does it have ECC?
L1204[15:07:17] <bawr> xD
L1205[15:07:17] <gamax92> but what if
your server has 1 ram chip
L1206[15:07:31] <bawr> gamax92: then
you're a bad server administrator
L1207[15:07:36] <bawr> and should be shot
behind the shed
L1208[15:07:43] <gamax92> ...
L1209[15:08:26] <XDjackieXD> bawr it has
ecc and additionally you can enable ram mirroring (basically
halving the ram size)
L1210[15:08:40] <bawr> also, dual-bios
has been on consumer motherboards for a few years now
L1211[15:08:44] <bawr> so that could
work, really
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L1213[15:08:58] <bawr> XDjackieXD: I
approve. Have an internet cookie.
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L1215[15:09:07] <Abbsence> Dramien is a
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L1218[15:09:31] <gamax92> KODOS!
L1219[15:09:32] <vifino> Abbsence is
talking to himself.
L1220[15:09:38] <Dramien> Abbsense sucks
dick
L1221[15:09:59] <bawr> aren't you both a
sweet couple
L1222[15:10:03] <Abbsence> nah m8 we are
in a server lol
L1223[15:10:07] <Abbsence> ye
L1224[15:10:09] <Dramien> We're m9s
L1225[15:10:11] <Abbsence> 2sweet
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L1227[15:10:36] <bawr> m9s: when being a
m8 is just not enough
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L1229[15:11:04] <gamax92> m9s: the next
level after your m8s
L1230[15:11:09] <gamax92> ;)
L1231[15:12:35] <Dramien> So, who likes
stuff
L1232[15:12:45] <gamax92> what kind of
stuff
L1233[15:12:50] <bawr> XDjackieXD: aww, I
just read that there's no spiffy laser renders in OpenRadio yet
;___;
L1234[15:13:05] <XDjackieXD> bawr nope
rendering is hard .-.
L1235[15:13:10] <Abbsence> what
stuff?
L1236[15:13:12] <Dramien> Ha gottem
L1237[15:13:12] <Abbsence> deez
nuts
L1238[15:13:19] <gamax92> XDjackieXD: btw
I didn't look at the repo yet and can't find the link
L1239[15:13:23] <XDjackieXD> bawr I will
work on it after gamescom i promise
L1240[15:13:25] <gamax92> is openradio a
ham radio mod?
L1241[15:13:39] <gamax92> can it connect
to websdr servers
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L1244[15:13:52] <Dramien> What modpacks
are you guys playing
L1245[15:14:05] <gamax92> why do we have
to be playing in a modpack
L1246[15:14:11] <gamax92> what if I'm not
using a modpack?
L1247[15:14:12] <gamax92> HUH?
L1248[15:14:13] <XDjackieXD> gamax92
currently it has laser communication but I plan on adding sattelite
dishes and sattelites and other HF stuff :3
L1249[15:14:28] <gamax92> XDjackieXD: .-.
what does lasers have to do with radio
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L1251[15:15:03] <XDjackieXD> gamax92 the
idea started with communication in general and the first thing I
implemented were lasers...
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L1253[15:15:14] <gamax92> oh okay
L1254[15:15:20] <bawr> gamax92: if every
software project was called after what it can do in version 0.1,
"windows' would be called "BootOS"
L1255[15:15:38] <bawr> and linux would be
called "asmhaxlol"
L1256[15:15:52] <gamax92> but what is
os/2 warp
L1257[15:15:55] <XDjackieXD> XD
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L1259[15:16:19] <gamax92> or DOS
varieties
L1260[15:16:30] <gamax92> BSD?
L1261[15:16:55] <bawr> os/2 would've been
called "biosfucker"
L1262[15:17:04] <gamax92> ... i don't get
it
L1263[15:17:10] <bawr> bsd would've been
"PDP Blinkenlights"
L1264[15:17:18] <gamax92> hold on
L1265[15:17:22] <gamax92> why is os/2
biosfucker?
L1266[15:17:41] <bawr> gamax92: I'm
pointing out that projects usually are named either arbitrarily, or
after their *projected* capability
L1267[15:17:41] <Sandra> XDjackieXD,
laser... communication.... :(
L1268[15:17:51] <gamax92> bawr: i know
this
L1269[15:17:54] <bawr> not after what the
first compiling release does
L1270[15:17:58] <gamax92> but why is os/2
biosfucker
L1271[15:17:58] <XDjackieXD> Sandra
?
L1272[15:18:15] <bawr> and I'm pretty
sure first OS/2 build basically took a huge crap over bios
tables
L1273[15:18:15] <bawr> xD
L1274[15:19:04] <Sandra> nothing, just
someone doing a clone of my thingy and doing it better than
me.
L1275[15:19:18] <bawr> and
"Excel" would've been called "Subpar", I
guess
L1276[15:19:32] <bawr> Netscape?
Netbin.
L1277[15:19:43] <XDjackieXD> Sandra wanna
help? :3
L1278[15:20:30] <gamax92> hehehehehe
>:D
L1279[15:20:34] <gamax92> bawr:
ReactOS
L1280[15:20:39] <XDjackieXD> XD
L1281[15:20:44] <bawr> gamax92:
easy
L1282[15:20:48] <bawr> BluescreenOS
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L1285[15:21:31] <bawr> Firefox? More like
SmolderingSquirrel.
L1286[15:22:07] <Sandra> XDjackieXD, it
does have a different design to my lasers, what do they look
like?
L1287[15:22:09] <gamax92> I want a
SegaCD
L1288[15:22:13] <gamax92> ;-;
L1289[15:22:31] <bawr> gamax92: look
around on a garage sale
L1290[15:22:49] <bawr> well, or pay
through the nose on ebay
L1291[15:22:56] <XDjackieXD> Sandra my
lasers currently look like a standard block with a texture and
flying white entities .-. Haven't got time yet to look into fancy
rendering...
L1292[15:23:27] <bawr> Sandra: requesting
a link to Sandra-lasers, however they're called
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L1296[15:25:15] <Sandra> my lasers
currently look like floating streams of red particles, and even
then only when computronics is installed.
L1297[15:25:34] <XDjackieXD> no gradle?
.-.
L1298[15:25:46] <Sandra> it has gradle,
in a separate repo.
L1299[15:25:50] <XDjackieXD> oh download
script...
L1300[15:26:02] <XDjackieXD> interesting
:P
L1301[15:26:10] <Sangar> o/
L1303[15:26:28] <XDjackieXD> hi Sangar
o/
L1304[15:26:37] <Sandra> all the gradle
is in there.
L1305[15:26:40] <sugoi> hello
L1306[15:26:47] <Sandra> it's a
snagar!
L1307[15:26:58] <Sangar> it's a snagar on
linux even
L1308[15:27:08] <bawr> hmm
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L1310[15:27:30] <bawr> so I'll have to
wait for something like Mekanism's lasers to emerge outside
mekanism, it seems ;_;
L1311[15:29:15] <Sandra> I also have
lasers to transport power, and players, so you've not quite beaten
those.
L1312[15:30:10] <gamax92> but why is the
Rngsaa on linux
L1313[15:30:10] <XDjackieXD> Sandra I
have AE2 so power = no problem (AE P2P)
L1314[15:30:31] <XDjackieXD> gamax92
because awesome?
L1315[15:30:33] <bawr> it's not lasers
until there's an actual red beam of death ;___;
L1316[15:30:39] <Sandra> P2P buses still
require running cables.
L1317[15:30:40] <Kilobyte> Sangar: since
when did you go linux?
L1318[15:31:03] <CompanionCube> lol
L1319[15:31:10] <XDjackieXD> bawr the
higher tier lasers will hurt players once I implement it :P
L1320[15:31:16] <bawr> Kilobyte: since
the reptillians replaced him with one of their agents
L1321[15:31:20] <CompanionCube>
grub-mkconfig detected an arch install..on a removable HDD.
L1322[15:31:30] <Kilobyte> gg
L1323[15:31:40] <Sangar> Kilobyte, today
:P
L1324[15:31:44] <bawr> CompanionCube:
hnnng
L1325[15:31:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
distro?
L1326[15:31:49] <Sangar> mint
L1327[15:31:53] <Kilobyte> fair enough
:P
L1328[15:32:12] <Sandra> my lasers don't
use an entity, are probably really bad on a server, and are pretty
dumb.
L1329[15:32:12] <gamax92> Sangar:
de?
L1330[15:32:13] <Sangar> i messed around
with arch enough in vms to know i'd get frustrated sooner or later
by messing something up again :X
L1331[15:32:14] <Kilobyte> i personally
find mint a bit annoying for development (got it on my
laptop)
L1332[15:32:31] <Kilobyte> but its great
if you just want something that works
L1333[15:32:31] *
sugoi Sangar i'll be writing a mod for fallout 4, inspired by your
work on open computers. i'm friends with one of the developers of
skse (forge:minecraft is skse:fallout) and i've discussed the idea
with him for his feedback.
L1334[15:32:33] <Sangar> gamax92,
en
L1335[15:32:53] <sugoi> do you have any
interest in fallout?
L1336[15:32:57] <CompanionCube> You could
always try Manjaro in the future :p
L1337[15:33:08] <gamax92> Sangar: no,
Desko Evneiromento
L1338[15:33:15] <CompanionCube> or some
other Arch-based/inspired distro
L1339[15:33:23] <Sangar> sugoi, haven't
played any of them, as i have to admit to great shame :/ just never
got around to it
L1340[15:33:23] <gamax92> or Windex
Managir
L1341[15:33:25] <XDjackieXD> Sandra I
decided to use an entity because I want my lasers to work through
portals :3
L1342[15:33:26] <bawr> Kilobyte: in the
end, for actual development, I always end up with apline pinux in a
VM + docker
L1343[15:33:30] <bawr> reproducible
builds <3
L1344[15:33:36] <Sangar> sounds like it
could fit in quite well as a mod from what i know tho
L1345[15:33:43] <Sangar> gamax92,
ah
L1346[15:33:48] <Sangar> default
L1347[15:33:51] <Sangar> cinnamon
L1348[15:33:58] <Sangar> for now
L1349[15:33:59] <Kilobyte> bawr: mint is
the package mess of debian, just worse
L1350[15:34:16] <Sangar> i want to get
set up first before i destroy everything again :X
L1351[15:34:29] <Sangar> (i.e. copy
firefox, tb profiles, etc etc)
L1352[15:34:30] <bawr> Kilobyte: oddly
enough, for it's minimalist nature, the onlything I had to compile
for alpine so far was PyPy
L1353[15:34:30] <Kilobyte> sometimes i
can't even find the package i need for a certain lib
L1354[15:34:35] <Sandra> XDjackieXD,
understandable, but my lasers are received in the same tick they're
sent.
L1355[15:34:43] <bawr> *its
L1356[15:34:47] <Kilobyte> bawr: i
compile shit i write myself :P
L1357[15:35:01] <bawr> well obviously I'm
not counting that :P
L1358[15:35:09] <Kilobyte> although, my
worst nightmare was trying to compile crystal
L1359[15:35:26] <Kilobyte> actually,
trying to compile anything written in crystal
L1360[15:35:32] <Kilobyte> can't get the
required libs
L1361[15:35:51] <bawr> you can run
L1362[15:35:54] <bawr> but you can't
hide
L1363[15:35:58] <bawr> coming this
summer:
L1364[15:35:59] <bawr> DLL HELL
L1365[15:36:25] <bawr> well, more like
*.so package management hell, but you get the idea
L1366[15:36:27] <bawr> ;)
L1367[15:36:29] <Sandra> XDjackieXD,
also, the build.sh script is old, and doesn't really work
properly.
L1368[15:36:43] <Skye> bawr, rm -rf
/
L1369[15:36:55] <Sandra> there's
instructions somewhere about how to setup the workspace.
L1370[15:37:04] <Kilobyte> Skye: you
missed a --no-preserve-root
L1371[15:37:30] <Skye> bawr, rm
--no-preserve-root -rf /
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L1373[15:37:34] <Sandra> the whole mod's
gonna get a rewrite soon.
L1374[15:37:47] <Kilobyte> bawr: and
afaik debian (and therefore mint) has no proper way to search for
packages containing a certain file
L1375[15:37:52] <Kilobyte> might be wrong
there tho
L1376[15:38:17] <Kilobyte> arch has
pkgfile (you just gotta install it :P)
L1377[15:39:15] <bawr> Skye: more like dd
if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda or of=/dev/kmem for my system-trashing
need, thank you
L1378[15:39:58] <Kodos> Okay, back from
lunch. What did I miss
L1379[15:40:06] <Kilobyte> bawr:
overwriting sda will kill your system
L1380[15:40:07] <Kilobyte> :P
L1381[15:40:18] <Kilobyte> kernel will
probably panic in FS code
L1382[15:40:23] <bawr> Kilobyte: ...and
rm-rf won't? xD
L1383[15:40:33] <Kilobyte> no panic at
least
L1384[15:40:40] <Skye> bawr, rm -rf will
not cause it to crash
L1385[15:40:45] <Skye> but it will stop
it from booting
L1386[15:40:55] <Kilobyte> and you won't
be able to launch new programs
L1387[15:41:05] <Kilobyte> files are not
actually deleted as long as they are open
L1388[15:41:10] <Kilobyte> they are still
on disk
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L1390[15:41:19] <bawr> I don't remember
the specifics, but I'm pretty sure last time I tried it, trashing
/dev/sda actually didn't crash outright for a long time
L1391[15:41:23] <Kilobyte> (you can
already reuse the name though)
L1392[15:41:31] <Kilobyte> bawr: depends
on if the hdd gets accessed
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L1394[15:41:49] <Kilobyte> and possibly
also your file system
L1395[15:41:53] <bawr> (barfing over kmem
tends to do that more reliably, but only if you avoid non-mapped
regions, SIGSEGV is a bitch)
L1396[15:42:36] <Kilobyte> kill -9
1
L1397[15:42:51] <Kilobyte> that is
probably the quickest way to panic
L1398[15:42:51] <bawr> anyway, thanks for
the helpful advice, but I'm not looking to fuck up my system
xD
L1399[15:42:59] <Kilobyte> (on standard
kernel at least)
L1400[15:43:04] <bawr> killing init
causes a panic?
L1401[15:43:08] <Kilobyte> yes
L1402[15:43:09] <bawr> huh, that's
new
L1403[15:43:17] <Kilobyte> (some distros
ship a patched one that won't let you kill init)
L1404[15:43:26] <Kilobyte> the moment
init exits, the kernel panics
L1405[15:43:48] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte,
there are other ways
L1406[15:43:51] <CompanionCube> such as
SEGV
L1407[15:43:59] <Kilobyte> essentially
still killing init
L1408[15:44:22] <Kilobyte> and some
patched kernels (looking at you, ubuntu) block sending signals to
init
L1409[15:44:30] <Kilobyte> or at least
ones that could terminate it
L1410[15:44:35] <bawr> CompanionCube:
SEGV should only cause a panic if you manage to get it to happen in
kernel mode, no?
L1411[15:44:52] <bawr> oh, wait
L1412[15:44:54] <Kilobyte> bawr: or onto
init
L1413[15:44:56] <bawr> sorry, I
misread
L1414[15:44:57] <Kilobyte> which will die
from it
L1415[15:45:00] <gamax92> Bus
error.
L1416[15:45:01] <gamax92> ?
L1417[15:45:15] <Kilobyte> bawr: i am
sure you can wreck some havoc in /proc or /sys
L1418[15:45:26] <bawr> Kilobyte: yeah, he
meant sending a SIGSEGV, I misinterpreted that as triggering a
SIGSEGV to happen
L1419[15:46:01] <bawr> also
L1420[15:46:03] <XDjackieXD> Sandra sry I
was afk. mine send/receive the same tick too. the entites are only
for finding the other laser (even one-way communication is
possible)
L1421[15:46:16] <Sandra> mmmkay.
L1422[15:46:24] <bawr> I love it how this
discussion about ways and means to trash a running kernel occured
at random
L1423[15:46:25] <bawr> xD
L1424[15:46:36] <Sandra> well mine are
one sided by design.
L1425[15:46:48] <Sandra> there's only 1
laser receiver for every laser type.
L1426[15:47:00] <Sandra> (I mean one,
ever.)
L1427[15:47:13] <XDjackieXD> mine
basically connect 2 OC networks (only network messages. not for
components)
L1428[15:47:48] <Sandra> so the same
receiver is used for power, players, and OC messages.
L1429[15:48:10] <XDjackieXD> Can your
lasers teleport players? :3
L1430[15:48:37] <Sandra> yep.
L1431[15:48:42] <XDjackieXD> lol :P
L1432[15:49:23] <Kilobyte> you can also
try overwriting the IDT using /dev/kmem, then trigger a segfault
(*0 = 1 in c)
L1433[15:49:36] <Kilobyte> that will
actually instantly reboot
L1434[15:49:41] <Sandra> I even worked
that into my second power generator, if you teleport a player
through an XP Energiser, it generates RF from the player's
XP.
L1435[15:49:43] <Kilobyte> not even
panic
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L1437[15:50:26] <Kilobyte> bawr: want
more? :P
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L1439[15:53:14] <bawr> Kilobyte: hmm,
messing up with MTRRs via a dynamically-loaded module?
L1440[15:53:41] <Vexatos>
<Sangar>
cinnamon
L1441[15:53:42] <Vexatos> woop
L1442[15:53:43] <bawr> fucking up UEFI
data to get the *next* boot to be all fun?
L1443[15:53:45] <Vexatos> Guess what I
have :3
L1444[15:53:55] <Vexatos> Linux Mint
cinnamon best thinger \:D/
L1445[15:53:56] ***
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L1446[15:54:20] <XDjackieXD> Anyone of
you going to Gamescom in Köln this week?
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L1448[15:54:46] <Vexatos> XDjackieXD,
it's called Cologne in English :3
L1449[15:54:51] <XDjackieXD> oh :P
L1450[15:55:03] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
yes, me
L1451[15:55:07] <Kilobyte> only friday
though
L1452[15:55:17] <bawr> Kilobyte:
replacing libc with a custom version that makes malloc and calloc
always return null? xD
L1453[15:55:25] <Kilobyte> missed ticket
sale start and didn't get a ticket for saturday anymore
L1454[15:55:39] <Kilobyte> bawr: attach
using ptrace and override some syscalls
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L1456[15:55:54] <XDjackieXD> I will be
there Wed to Sat :P (Press tickets ftw ^,^)
L1457[15:56:03] <bawr> Kilobyte:
neat
L1458[15:56:10] *
Vexatos throws a press at XDjackieXD
L1459[15:56:22] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
cool, you gonna be on irc then so i can poke you for a place to
meet? :P
L1460[15:56:44] <Kilobyte> given i don't
forget
L1461[15:57:31] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
probably not... (Androirc isn't the greatest on earth and I don't
have a german sim card. only the wifi provided in the press
center...)
L1462[15:57:50] <bawr> Kilobyte: although
now that I think of it, a far more interesting game would be to
make system notoriously unreliable for no clear reason
L1463[15:57:51] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
uh, how'd i contact you best then
L1464[15:58:01] <Kilobyte> bawr: pdebug
is your friend
L1465[15:58:06] <bawr> oom-killer
tweaks
L1466[15:58:07] <Kilobyte> root can
attach to any process
L1467[15:58:12] <Kodos> Back again
L1468[15:58:20] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
uh, how'd i contact you best then? :P
L1469[15:58:27] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
idk... :/
L1470[15:58:32] <bawr> or, say, a custom
slab allocator patch that would cause massive memory
fragmentation
L1471[15:58:33] <bawr> xD
L1472[15:58:40] <Vexatos> bawr, Minecraft
mod which balances itself around its devices having a probability
of crashing your game :P
L1473[15:58:52] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: or
you just scout out a good place and tell me thursday evening?
L1474[15:59:15] <Kodos> Vexatos, needs OC
compat
L1475[15:59:21] <bawr> Vexatos: nah, game
crashing and exploding bees is amateur tier
L1476[15:59:27] <bawr> random world
corruption
L1477[15:59:32] <Vexatos> my bees don't
explode >_>
L1478[15:59:34] <bawr> that goes
unnoticed for weeks
L1479[15:59:37] <Vexatos> they produce
Grog
L1480[15:59:40] <bawr> *that's* the name
of the game
L1481[15:59:41] <Kodos> What about a fake
BSOD
L1482[15:59:42] <Vexatos> that's about as
OC-compat as it can get
L1483[15:59:45] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
this is a good idea :P I will come here and tell you a good spot to
meet thursday in the evening :)
L1484[15:59:53] <Sangar> gah, y u no
blink in tray hexchat :/
L1485[15:59:54] <Kilobyte> kk
L1486[15:59:57] <Vexatos> Kodos, doesn't
work because only winderps has BSODs :P
L1487[16:00:00] <Kilobyte> then we just
need to make a time
L1488[16:00:06] <Kilobyte> anyone else
wants to join us?
L1489[16:00:12] <Kilobyte> unofficial #oc
meetup? :P
L1490[16:00:13] <Vexatos> Sangar, on mint
it should be bright red
L1491[16:00:15] <bawr> Kilobyte: I'll be
there in spirit
L1492[16:00:19] <Vexatos> or orange
L1493[16:00:35] <Lizzy> Kilobyte, what's
this?
L1494[16:00:46] <Kilobyte> Lizzy:
gamescom
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L1496[16:01:04] <Kodos> Promise me you'll
go to the Elite Dangerous panel
L1497[16:01:07] <Sangar> nope, nothing.
looks the same as ever (and yes, it's enabled in the preferences,
just checked)
L1498[16:01:09] <Kodos> (Assuming panels
are a thing)
L1499[16:01:20] <Kilobyte> Kodos: its
basicly a fair
L1500[16:01:21] <Kilobyte> :P
L1501[16:01:23] <Sangar> anyway... back
to trying to get my audio to how i want it...
L1502[16:01:27] <Kilobyte> just waaaaay
more fun
L1503[16:01:54] <Sangar> i'm almost
there, except that the spdif doesn't give a crap about volume
settings...
L1504[16:01:59] <bawr_> hmm, now that I
think about it, is there a way to identify a host OS for a minecaft
server?
L1505[16:02:11] <Kilobyte> to admit:
thats my first time at gamescom, but i got a friend with me who was
there like the past 4 years
L1506[16:02:20] <Kilobyte> so i kinda
know what to expect
L1507[16:02:28] <bawr_> then you can pick
and choose your bluescreen equivalent ;)
L1508[16:02:53] <Kilobyte> bawr_: client
host?
L1509[16:02:57] <Kilobyte> good
question
L1510[16:03:04] <Vexatos> Sangar, my
microphone is way too quiet, otherwise I have no issues on mint at
all :P
L1511[16:03:14] <Kodos> Okay, now to
rewrite my ender chest program since I forgot to save it last night
in my heatstroke stupor
L1512[16:03:19] <bawr_> or just go full
retard and always display the Amiga Workbench meditation error
screen
L1513[16:03:19] <bawr_> xD
L1514[16:03:28] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
just curious, where you from?
L1515[16:03:32] <Vexatos> the minecraft
loading screen
L1516[16:03:34] <Vexatos> just display
that
L1517[16:03:35] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte it
is my first time there too (traveling from Vienna to Cologne isn't
the shortest trip... :P and not beeing 18 yet (2 months to go)
doesn't help either XD)
L1518[16:03:36] <Vexatos>
indefinitely
L1519[16:03:40] <Kilobyte> ic :P
L1520[16:03:45] <bawr_> Vexatos: xD
L1521[16:03:47] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
Vienna, Austria
L1522[16:03:51] <Kilobyte> heh, i am 19
now :P
L1523[16:04:01] <Sangar> Vexatos, i want
it like i had it on windows; output to analog headphones and spdif
for boxes at the same time.
L1524[16:04:09] <Vexatos> ah
L1525[16:04:12] <Vexatos> well, it is
possible
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L1527[16:04:15] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
doable
L1528[16:04:15] <Vexatos> maybe asie can
help
L1529[16:04:16] <XDjackieXD> Sangar
Pulseaudio or alsa?
L1530[16:04:23] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
mint == pulse
L1531[16:04:23] <Sangar> when i have
spdif as primary, analog does nothing, when i have analog as
primary, spdif is unregulated :/
L1532[16:04:23] <Vexatos> he's messed
with audio on linux a lot
L1533[16:04:24] <Vexatos> P:
L1534[16:04:27] <Sangar> so always full
volume
L1535[16:04:41] <Vexatos> Kilobyte,
mint=both
L1536[16:04:41] <CompanionCube>
gnome-alsamixer was best mixer
L1537[16:04:43] <Kilobyte> Sangar: you
probably have to dig a bit into pulse
L1538[16:04:44] <XDjackieXD> Sangar do
you have pavucontroll installed?
L1539[16:04:46] <CompanionCube> until I
discovered CLI mixer
L1540[16:04:46] <Kilobyte> Vexatos: well,
yes
L1541[16:04:51] <asie> >audio on
linux
L1542[16:04:52] <Sangar> yeah, both
afaict
L1543[16:04:54] <asie> the only thing
worse than xorg.conf
L1544[16:04:58] <Kilobyte> most times you
use pulse, you also have alsa
L1545[16:05:04] *
CompanionCube runs bare ALSA
L1546[16:05:08] *
Sangar looks for pavucontrol
L1547[16:05:09] <vifino> JACK or
riot.
L1548[16:05:10] <Vexatos> asie: OpenAL is
worse
L1549[16:05:19] <Sangar> nope
L1550[16:05:27] <CompanionCube> asie,
nope
L1551[16:05:31] <asie> Vexatos: no it's
not
L1552[16:05:35] <CompanionCube> xorg.conf
was autogenerated for me
L1553[16:05:37] <asie> CompanionCube: i
configured xorg.conf by hand multiple times
L1554[16:05:41] <asie> audio? never got
it fully working
L1555[16:05:42] <Vexatos> .-.
L1556[16:05:49] <Vexatos> I never get
audio working anywhere
L1557[16:05:54] <Kilobyte> i had to
change one line in my xorg conf
L1558[16:05:56] <bawr_> asie: arrrggh,
xorg by hand
L1559[16:05:58] <gamax92> asie is speed
typer, typed a reply to CompanionCube in 1 second
L1560[16:05:59] <bawr_> the
memories
L1561[16:06:01] <bawr_> ;_;
L1562[16:06:03] <Vexatos> my mic works on
windows, but only due to the windows mic boosting
L1563[16:06:04] <Kodos> MaryTTS =(
L1564[16:06:08] <gamax92> bawr_: but what
about XFree86 by hand
L1565[16:06:21] <Sangar> yay, a gui
L1566[16:06:22] <Vexatos> Kodos, it's so
good
L1567[16:06:29] <XDjackieXD> asie the
only time I had ausio problems were when I tried to use a brand
new, not very well known soundcard...
L1568[16:06:30] <CompanionCube> XFree86
is just really old Xorg,
L1569[16:06:34] <CompanionCube> so
L1570[16:06:37] <bawr_> gamax92: my first
linux was slackware
L1571[16:06:40] <Kilobyte> from my
experience, condiguring ldapd is worse than xorg too
L1572[16:06:44] <bawr_> I fear no config
format
L1573[16:06:46] <Kodos> Vexatos, not
until it's in Computronics
L1574[16:06:51] <Vexatos> Kodos, I can't
though
L1575[16:06:54] <XDjackieXD> bawr_ I had
a slackware servers for many years at home...
L1576[16:07:03] <Vexatos> Because I am
too stupid to understand AL
L1577[16:07:03] <Vexatos> P:
L1578[16:07:04] <XDjackieXD>
*server
L1579[16:07:08] <Kilobyte> i only ever
ran ubuntu, arch, debian and mint
L1580[16:07:14] <Kilobyte> oh, and
cenos
L1581[16:07:17] <Kilobyte> *centos
L1582[16:07:32] <bawr_> XDjackieXD:
slackware is as close to LFS as you can be and still call yourself
an actual distro, really ;)
L1583[16:07:33] <gamax92> go run fedora,
sabayon, opensuse, redhat stuff, ...
L1584[16:07:51] <Kilobyte> right now i
run debian (server), arch (desktop) and mint (laptop)
L1585[16:07:56] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte I
have used pretty much the same except that I also used slackware
(not having a package manager was a pain...)
L1586[16:08:03] <Kilobyte> xD
L1587[16:08:05] <Kilobyte> i can
imagine
L1588[16:08:07] <XDjackieXD> bawr_ you
are absolutely correct XD
L1589[16:08:13] <Kilobyte> package
managers are a really nice thing
L1590[16:08:17] <XDjackieXD> yes
L1591[16:08:40] <Kodos> Can debug cards
get a player's level and/or XP amount?
L1592[16:08:41] <Kilobyte> best one by
far imo is still pacman :P
L1593[16:08:43] <bawr_> btu well, as I've
said before, I've come to *love* alpine under docker
L1594[16:08:55] <Kilobyte> one of the
main reasons i love arch
L1595[16:09:06] <XDjackieXD> I was bored
at my summer internship last month. I set up a ubuntu vm, an arch
vm (encrypted rootfs, lxde, alsa, ...), a windows 10 vm and a lfs
XD
L1596[16:09:18] <bawr_> heh
L1597[16:09:38] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: my
laptop ran an encrypted root fs on arch for almost a year
L1598[16:09:40] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
pacman is nice but the syntax is irritating compared to apt, opkg,
yum and others XD
L1599[16:09:50] <Kilobyte> until the
graphics drivers stopped working
L1600[16:09:52] <bawr_> Kilobyte: well
you can always go full retard and install gentoo xD
L1601[16:09:57] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
thats actually the main thing i like about it
L1602[16:10:03] <Kilobyte> bawr_: i tried
once (in a vm)
L1603[16:10:11] <Kilobyte> note the
'tried'
L1604[16:10:19] <bawr_> I'm actually
running an instance of it, but well.
L1605[16:10:21] <gamax92> "Demo
tape"
L1606[16:10:27] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
btw, pacapt is reeeeaaaally neat
L1607[16:10:30] <gamax92>
"tape"
L1608[16:10:36] <gamax92>
tape
L1609[16:10:42] <Kilobyte> wraps all the
package managers and has pacman syntax
L1610[16:10:44] <bawr_> Not for the faint
of heart. Not nice at all in general.
L1611[16:10:46] <XDjackieXD> bawr_ I know
an Australian guy with about my age who is a cypherpunk. he runs a
gentoo live system chrooted into an encrypted fs :P
L1612[16:10:56] <gamax92> long magnetic
strip curled up into a plastic box
L1613[16:11:33] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: i
mainly had the encryption as i take that laptop to uni and i don't
wanna lose keys/passwords
L1614[16:11:41] <Kilobyte> was painfully
slow though
L1615[16:11:41] <bawr_> XDjackieXD:
>cupherpunk >not running BSD
L1616[16:11:42] <bawr_> wha
L1617[16:11:48] <bawr_> XDjackieXD:
;)
L1618[16:12:02] <Kilobyte> now i have
mint + a strict "no password/key on hdd" policy
L1619[16:12:12] <vifino> XDjackieXD: If
you chroot into the thing why would you use a livecd
L1620[16:12:14] <vifino> ?
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L1622[16:12:15] <XDjackieXD> bawr_ he has
bsd on his compile "server" (a intel atom with 2gb of
ram... XD)
L1623[16:12:56] <XDjackieXD> vifino don't
ask me XD he has a live system on a write protected SD card and
chroots into his main (encrypted) fs once booted...
L1624[16:13:07] <vifino> ...
L1625[16:13:08] <XDjackieXD> and he
compiles everything himself...
L1626[16:13:09] <vifino> Why.
L1627[16:13:12] <bawr_> to each their
own
L1628[16:13:33] <Kodos> Chat boxes don't
like long strings consisting lua code
L1629[16:13:33] <bawr_> vifino: probably
because it's "interesting" xD
L1630[16:13:34] <Kilobyte> well, gentoo
has a "compile yourself" policy
L1631[16:13:40] <bawr_> or, toy know,
actual paranoia
L1632[16:13:44] <bawr_> *you
L1633[16:14:02] <Kodos> Soon™
L1634[16:14:15] <XDjackieXD> And he is
currently working on a p2p network (like a vpn) without any central
servers which is very modular (could use sms as transport layer XD)
written in rust
L1635[16:14:29] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
what i do actually miss in pacman is a user install, allowing you
to install certain packages per-user
L1636[16:14:42] <Kilobyte> rust is
neat
L1637[16:14:43] <gamax92> bawr_: always
remember, even though you can have source code, and the source code
has no malicious code in it, that the binary provided so that
"you don't have to go through the pain" may not be
clean
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L1639[16:15:03] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte I
never needed this feature. the only place where it would be useful
is a shared machine
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L1641[16:15:12] <bawr_> gamax92:
pfffft
L1642[16:15:15] <bawr_> you can have the
source
L1643[16:15:19] <bawr_> compile it
yourself
L1644[16:15:25] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: or
programs that are intended to run per-user
L1645[16:15:25] <bawr_> and still have a
backdoor in the compiler
L1646[16:15:41] <gamax92> that, but
that's less likely
L1647[16:15:45] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte,
stow might be useful for that
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L1650[16:15:53] <bawr_> one of my
favourite CS papers ever
L1651[16:15:57] <CompanionCube> or using
a special pacman.conf
L1652[16:16:01] <Kilobyte> anyways, if
you wanna be 100% sure your code is safe you have to put the bytes
manually into your hdd
L1653[16:16:02] <gamax92> D: edu
websites
L1654[16:16:04] <Kilobyte> for the
code
L1655[16:16:10] <gamax92> what if the
hdd's firmware is malicious
L1656[16:16:13] <CompanionCube> ^
L1657[16:16:19] <CompanionCube> HDD
firmware is a thing.
L1658[16:16:25] <XDjackieXD> and uefi
bios infection
L1659[16:16:26] <Kilobyte> sorry, you
gotta put that into there as well
L1660[16:16:33] <Kilobyte> and all your
other firmwares
L1661[16:16:48] <CompanionCube> CPU
microcode infection.
L1662[16:16:49] <Kilobyte> and you gotta
review all the schematics
L1663[16:16:50] <bawr_> if you want to be
safe. well, a magnetised needle and a steady hand.
L1664[16:16:57] <XDjackieXD> atmega128 +
asm code = true security XD
L1665[16:16:57] <bawr_> all other ways
are half-measures.
L1666[16:17:08] <Kilobyte> bawr_: thats
what i meant by "manually"
L1667[16:17:13] <bawr_> Kilobyte: fair
enough
L1668[16:17:17] <Kilobyte> but your
controller can modify data as its read
L1669[16:17:27] <Kilobyte> hence you need
to ensure its integrety as well
L1670[16:17:56] <bawr_> Kilobyte: at true
security level there is no need to trust any machine. data is also
*read* with a magnetised needle and a steady hand
L1671[16:17:57] <bawr_> ;)
L1672[16:18:03] <Kilobyte> at that point,
just build your entire computer from scratch
L1673[16:18:19] <vifino> At that point,
don't use a computer.
L1674[16:18:25] <bawr_> and by
"scratch", we really mean logic gates
L1675[16:18:41] <Kilobyte> bawr_:
transistors, resistors, capacitors etc
L1676[16:18:42] <Kilobyte> but yes
L1677[16:18:45] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte: µC
+ hand programming (there's a video where a guy is programming a
avr using 2 buttons to write spi data :P)
L1678[16:18:57] <CompanionCube> Ken
Thompson's hack demonstrates that absolute security is practically
impossible
L1679[16:19:05] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
what if the hardware of the µC is malicious
L1680[16:19:27] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte:
RISCV opensource µC :3
L1681[16:19:30] <bawr_> XDjackieXD: what
if the NSA is reading your mind using brainwave alien
technology
L1682[16:19:35] <XDjackieXD> XD
L1683[16:19:36] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: we
still got the same issue
L1684[16:19:37] <bawr_> INVEST IN A TIN
FOIL HAT
L1685[16:19:43] <XDjackieXD> XDDD
L1686[16:19:44] <bawr_> the only way to
be sure
L1687[16:19:45] <Kilobyte> who says the
chip has the hardware it claims to have
L1688[16:19:55] <CompanionCube> bawr_,
did they borrow the technology from the Sumerian God's Devil?
L1689[16:19:55] <Kilobyte> you'd have to
decap and analyze it under a microscope
L1690[16:19:59] <Vexatos> bawr_, the
question is: Brainwave alien technology or Alienware brainwave
technology D:
L1691[16:20:11] <Kilobyte> and a chip
usually doesn't survive decapping
L1692[16:20:18] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
build a µC using discrete transistors :3
L1693[16:20:23] <bawr_> Vexatos: looking
at the US politics, well, either is plausible xD
L1694[16:20:31] <gamax92> you have to
make sure you do a good decap and scan, so you can rebuild the chip
from that
L1695[16:20:33] <Kilobyte> 23:18:40
+Kilobyte | *masekd*: transistors, resistors, capacitors etc
L1696[16:20:37] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
^
L1697[16:20:52] <Vexatos> bawr_, Trump is
da best
L1698[16:20:54] <Vexatos> for comedy
channels
L1699[16:20:55] <gamax92> There is way
too much XD on my screen
L1700[16:21:01] <XDjackieXD> :P
L1701[16:21:10] <Kilobyte> aka we are in
way too good mood
L1702[16:21:28] <Vexatos> And the fact
that he still is the more popular one right now tells a lot about
'murica
L1703[16:21:37] <bawr_>
;;;;;;;;_;;;;;;;;
L1704[16:21:46] <bawr_> there, 16 virtual
tears to even it out
L1705[16:21:51] <XDjackieXD> :P
L1706[16:22:07] <Vexatos> Heh
L1707[16:22:13] <Kilobyte> lets
summarize: don't trust a computer.
L1708[16:22:15] <gamax92> >_>
Trump
L1709[16:22:17] <Vexatos> I am not
looking forward to the next US election
L1710[16:22:21] <gamax92> neither am
i
L1711[16:22:21] <bawr_> Kilobyte: and
even if you build a computer
L1712[16:22:29] <Kilobyte> Vexatos: me
neither
L1713[16:22:37] <Vexatos> the currently
more popular guy is the most stupid billionaire I have seen in a
while
L1714[16:22:40] <bawr_> Kilobyte: better
build an lcd from scratch
L1715[16:22:49] <bawr_> Kilobyte: crts
can be sniffed by their emissions
L1716[16:22:55] <Kilobyte> mhm
L1717[16:22:57] <XDjackieXD> nah... just
use LEDs
L1718[16:23:06] <Kilobyte> well, you can
use a laser to sniff a keyboard
L1719[16:23:10] <Vexatos> anyways, time
to bedify
L1720[16:23:13] <Vexatos> good night
o/
L1721[16:23:14] <bawr_> oh, and make sure
your keys are callibrated not to have a distinct noise, too
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L1723[16:23:32] <Kilobyte> by recording
its vibrations and combining that with a frequency analysis
L1724[16:23:33] <XDjackieXD> If you have
enough money, nothing is secure... .-.
L1725[16:23:48] <gamax92> make it so your
keyboards emit a super loud siren requiring you to wear earmuffs,
the siren will mask the clicking
L1726[16:24:00] <XDjackieXD> :P
L1727[16:24:04] <Kilobyte> if a specific
key is like 20% of all strokes its likely the space key
L1728[16:24:05] <Kilobyte> etc
L1729[16:24:21] <Kilobyte> gamax92: you
also gotta override vibrations
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L1731[16:24:28] <bawr_> Kilobyte: that's
easily fixed, just remap your keyboard randomly
L1732[16:24:31] <bawr_> every day or
so
L1733[16:24:41] <Kilobyte> a day is
already too rare
L1734[16:24:48] <gamax92> make a
dynamically remapping keyboard that remaps itself the moment you
hit a key
L1735[16:24:49] <Kilobyte> depending on
how much you type
L1736[16:24:54] <XDjackieXD> bawr_ or use
ey tracking as inout on a software keyboard XD
L1737[16:25:03] <Kilobyte> hmm
L1738[16:25:06] <XDjackieXD> *eye
L1739[16:25:08] <Kilobyte> even a LCD can
be sniffed
L1740[16:25:12] <Kilobyte> using a good
antenna
L1741[16:25:17] <CompanionCube>
XDjackieXD, so essentially an optical keyboard
L1742[16:25:24] <Kilobyte> you can sniff
the data going throigh the cable to the monitor
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L1744[16:25:40] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
just put your pc inside a rf-shielding room
L1745[16:25:42] <Kilobyte> unless really
really good shielding
L1746[16:25:55] <bawr_> Kilobyte: oh,
that's easily fixed, too, just have braille terminal hooked
directly into yourself, sending jolts of electricity into you
L1747[16:25:56] <bawr_> like
L1748[16:26:11] <bawr_> a zap in the knee
is dot 1, a zap in the other knee is dot 2, you get the idea
L1749[16:26:15] <Kilobyte> lets
summarize:
L1750[16:26:30] <Kilobyte> bawr_: you
could get the codes from your different pain sounds
L1751[16:26:38] <bawr_> Kilobyte: no no
no
L1752[16:26:47] <bawr_> tearing out your
tongue is, like, step 1
L1753[16:26:55] <bawr_> otheriwse you
might compromise your design
L1754[16:27:03] <Kilobyte> fully self
built computer from transistors etc in completely sound/light/radio
proof house
L1755[16:27:13] <Kilobyte> without
external power connection
L1756[16:27:26] <Kilobyte> (no power
measurement attacks)
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L1758[16:27:49] <bawr_> preferably on an
unreliable clock source, so no timing attacks
L1759[16:27:53] <Kilobyte> and no water
pipes (they are antennas and would ruin radio proofness)
L1760[16:28:23] <bawr_> a faraday cage
all around your compound
L1761[16:28:39] <Kilobyte> yeah
L1762[16:28:44] <bawr_> compound itself
underground, so no satellite imaging
L1763[16:28:47] <XDjackieXD> :P
L1764[16:29:01] <Kilobyte> and double
walls
L1765[16:29:15] <Kilobyte> how'd you
ensure nobody breaks in?
L1766[16:29:20] <XDjackieXD> I think you
all have to agree that we are strange folks :P
L1767[16:29:28] <bawr_> oh, and obviously
a dead man's switch blowing the whole place to hell the moment you
kick the bucket
L1768[16:29:34] <XDjackieXD> XDD
L1769[16:29:52] <Kilobyte> bawr_: how to
prevent against spies breaking in
L1770[16:30:06] <XDjackieXD> termite
inside the PC which ignites on death or intrusion
L1771[16:30:22] <Kilobyte> how to detect
intrusion
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L1774[16:30:34] <bawr_> Kilobyte: pick a
compound under a minefield
L1775[16:30:40] <XDjackieXD> switch,
light, movement, sound
L1776[16:30:41] <bawr_> make sure the
door is rusted shut
L1777[16:30:45] <Kodos> After requiring
sides, what's a good way to shortcut them
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L1779[16:30:50] <Kodos> Should I use a
table
L1780[16:31:02] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
remember: the alarm system has to be able to distinguish you from
spies
L1781[16:31:11] <Kilobyte> reliably
L1782[16:31:22] <bawr_> Kilobyte: simply
solved - *you* never go out
L1783[16:31:43] <Kilobyte> thing is: is
that what you want? :P
L1784[16:31:43] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte:
vein scanner biometric auth
L1785[16:31:56] <bawr_> Kilobyte: if what
you want is total security...
L1786[16:31:57] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
sure that can't be forged?
L1787[16:31:59] <bawr_> obviously!
L1788[16:32:17] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte it
is currently the only biometric auth that can't be forged
L1789[16:32:25] <Kilobyte> how to prevent
forced entry?
L1790[16:32:32] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
C4!
L1791[16:32:50] <bawr_> XDjackieXD:
...no, most fingerprint scanners, for example, still can be fooled
by gummi bears
L1792[16:32:50] <bawr_> xD
L1793[16:33:02] <XDjackieXD> bywr_ vein
scanning
L1794[16:33:06] <Kilobyte> replay
attack?
L1795[16:33:13] <Kodos> New question:
What's a quick and easy way to have an inventory controller check
the sides of an adapter, and be able to tell which ones have
inventories next to them
L1796[16:33:16] <Kilobyte> just sniff the
data between outside unit and inside unit
L1797[16:33:20] <Kilobyte> then perform
replay attack
L1798[16:33:34] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
ECDH encryption :P
L1799[16:33:35] <Kilobyte> or patch the
outside unit somehow
L1800[16:33:44] <XDjackieXD> and sealed
outside unit (epoxy ftw)
L1801[16:33:58] <bawr_> XDjackieXD:
actually, no longer than a year ago I saw a presentation that did
the gummi-bear trick on supposed vein scanners, too
L1802[16:33:59] <bawr_> so
L1803[16:33:59] <bawr_> xD
L1804[16:34:03] <Kilobyte> there are
solvants for epoxy
L1805[16:34:09] <XDjackieXD> bawr_
o.O
L1806[16:34:29] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
build the electronics out of something that is also dissolved by
it
L1807[16:34:44] <Kilobyte> they are used
for chip decapping :P
L1808[16:34:55] <Kilobyte> so they are
made to not destroy electronics
L1809[16:35:02] <sugoi> is there a ...
more efficient way to detect inventory changes than while true do
getStackInSlot's ?
L1810[16:35:13] <Kilobyte> sugoi:
coremodding
L1811[16:35:15] <Kilobyte> i'd say
L1812[16:35:16] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
build the traces from silver paint on epoxy -> solvant=no
circuit anymore :P
L1813[16:35:20] <Kilobyte> unless there
is an event
L1814[16:35:27] <bawr_> Kilobyte: isn't
there an event?
L1815[16:35:32] <Kilobyte> not sure
L1816[16:35:35] <Kilobyte> look into
events
L1817[16:35:56] <Kilobyte> coremodding
isn't as scary as it sounds though if you really need it :P
L1818[16:36:15] <sugoi> Kilobyte: openos
events? or events from the inventory block at the forge
level?
L1819[16:36:17] <Kilobyte> i actually
wrote a lib that takes most of the work of you
L1820[16:36:26] <Kilobyte> sugoi: oh you
are talking oc? xD
L1821[16:36:30] <bawr_> XDjackieXD: so,
pretty much, we settled that what is needed for total security is
pen, paper, a fire just in case, and lots of explosives ;)
L1822[16:36:33] <sugoi> and by core
modding, you mean write my own mod addin for this purpose
L1823[16:36:35] <Kilobyte> sorry,
completely forgot about that
L1824[16:36:36] <sugoi> Kilobyte: yes,
oc
L1825[16:36:40] <XDjackieXD> bawr_ yes
:P
L1826[16:36:48] <Kilobyte> sugoi: set up
wildcard event listener
L1827[16:36:50] <Kilobyte> then try
it
L1829[16:36:55] <sugoi> k
L1830[16:37:06] <Kilobyte> while true do
print(event.pull()) end
L1831[16:37:08] <Kilobyte> or w/e
L1832[16:37:10] <bawr_> sugoi: or just
use the dmesg rogeam
L1833[16:37:14] <Kilobyte> or that
L1834[16:37:26] <Kilobyte> been a while
since i actually used oc
L1835[16:37:29] <bawr_> XDjackieXD: cool.
count me in for the explosives part.
L1836[16:37:32] <Kilobyte> not really
into mc anymore
L1837[16:37:38] <sugoi> :)
L1838[16:37:46] <XDjackieXD> bawr_ I know
someone with the licence to buy C4 :3
L1839[16:37:49] <Kilobyte> but this
community still is great
L1840[16:37:55] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
you know like all the people
L1841[16:38:01] <bawr_> XDjackieXD: well
I could make some, but
L1842[16:38:09] <bawr_> I've never turned
down a pragmatic solution
L1843[16:38:09] <bawr_> xD
L1844[16:38:29] *
CompanionCube will need to fix GRUB tomorrow
L1845[16:38:29] <Kilobyte> i know someone
with a driving license, does that count?
L1846[16:38:31] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte I
don't know all the people... my friend has the sources of MW2
because he knows a dev... XD
L1847[16:38:53] <sugoi> know a dev, have
the source....
L1848[16:38:57] <bawr_> (aaaaand NSA
proactively denies us all visas until the fifth generation in 3...
2... 1...)
L1849[16:38:58] <sugoi> wow, that dev
should be fired
L1850[16:39:03] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte I'm
in the process of getting a driving licence :P
L1851[16:39:14] <sugoi>
"driver's" *
L1852[16:39:16] <Kilobyte> not a good
dev?
L1853[16:39:23] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
said person is me :P
L1854[16:39:25] <sugoi> nda, a bit?
L1855[16:39:29] <Kilobyte> as of under a
week ago
L1856[16:39:34] <Kilobyte> sugoi:
ikr
L1857[16:39:52] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte any
plans for 32C3? :P
L1858[16:40:11] <Kilobyte> uhh
L1859[16:40:14] <Kilobyte> not
really
L1860[16:40:24] <XDjackieXD> I want to go
there :3
L1861[16:40:38] <Kilobyte> was thinking
about it tho
L1862[16:40:40] <Kilobyte> not sure
yet
L1863[16:41:04] <XDjackieXD> and next
year I will most likely go to Defcon with my dad \o/
L1864[16:41:29] <Ekoserin> Windows logic:
Search for Notepad, find Notepad and Notepad++. Search for
Notepad++, find neither.
L1865[16:41:36] <XDjackieXD> :P
L1866[16:41:39] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
defcon is planned but idk when
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L1868[16:41:51] <Kilobyte> probably not
next 2 years
L1869[16:41:56] <gamax92> >_> so, i
had youtube auto play next recommended video enabled ...
L1870[16:41:57] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte I
want to have been there at least once in my life ^^
L1871[16:42:02] <Kilobyte> same
L1872[16:42:09] <Kilobyte> but once you
were there once you can't stop
L1873[16:42:10] <Greys> is it possible to
use OpenComputers with a language/runtime other than Lua
L1874[16:42:10] <gamax92> I went from a
TF2 video and overnight it's "Roof sex"
L1875[16:42:11] <Kilobyte> :P
L1876[16:42:16] <XDjackieXD> :P
L1877[16:42:22] <CompanionCube> Greys:
yes
L1878[16:42:32] <Kilobyte> its probably
the thing you get addicted the quickest from
L1879[16:42:39] <gamax92> Greys: yes, but
it depends on if someone has made an addon that provides whatever
language you want
L1880[16:42:45] <Kilobyte> fuck heroine,
we got defcon
L1881[16:42:53] <CompanionCube> but iirc
there are no complete implementations of alternate
langauges/runtimes
L1882[16:42:54] <XDjackieXD> XD yes
L1883[16:43:07] <Greys> so it's possible
but it doesn't yet exist
L1884[16:43:16] <Greys> is there any
documentation on how to make it?
L1885[16:43:20] <gamax92> Greys: no,
there is not other language called
"language/runtime"
L1886[16:43:27] <XDjackieXD> someone is
working on an arm runtime for OC
L1887[16:43:30] <gamax92> if you brought
up a specific one, then we could tell you what you meant
L1888[16:43:34] <Dramien> Who else here
plays tf2
L1889[16:43:40] <gamax92> wtf is
tf2
L1890[16:43:42] *
Kilobyte a bit
L1891[16:43:45] <Greys> I want C#.net or
Mono
L1892[16:43:47] <Kilobyte> not a lot
recently tho
L1893[16:43:52] <XDjackieXD> Dramien I
have it but I don't play it often
L1894[16:44:08] <Dramien> It's a game
that only 1337 masters can play
L1895[16:44:10] <Kilobyte> Greys: llvm
bytecode would be nice :P
L1896[16:44:13] <XDjackieXD> Greys wtf?
:P
L1897[16:44:16] <Dramien> And is it
because you don't have hats
L1898[16:44:17] <Kilobyte> because many
languages can compile to it
L1899[16:44:35] <Kilobyte> annd its
high-level enough to support functions at machine layer
L1900[16:44:37] <XDjackieXD> Dramien I
prefer CS:GO....
L1901[16:44:41] <Kilobyte> (like
component functions)
L1902[16:44:45] <gamax92> llvm is
high-level?
L1903[16:45:00] <Greys> the
directionality of levels is always in question
L1904[16:45:05] <Kilobyte> gamax92:
high-level enough to support functions
L1905[16:45:06] <CompanionCube> C# / Mono
would be damm difficult due to having to interface with it
eventually from the JVM
L1906[16:45:11] <Kilobyte> but still
fairly low-level
L1907[16:45:11] <gamax92> .oh okay
L1908[16:45:15] <Dramien> jackie and I
thought you were cool
L1909[16:45:15] <Greys> low level virtual
machine code is high level if high level is deep
L1910[16:45:37] <Kilobyte> so you could
actually use idk rust on oc
L1911[16:45:41] <Kilobyte> or
crystal
L1912[16:45:48] <XDjackieXD> Dramien my
favourite game is Portal2 and nothing can change that XD
L1913[16:45:48] <Kilobyte> or c (using
clang)
L1914[16:46:10] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: i
yet have to play portal 2 single player
L1915[16:46:12] <Kilobyte> xD
L1916[16:46:21] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte
have a cookie for rust in OC :P
L1917[16:46:25] <Kilobyte> i did
coop
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L1919[16:46:34] <Kilobyte> seriously
tho
L1920[16:46:36] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte I
haven't played coop yet
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L1922[16:46:50] <gamax92> rashy
L1923[16:46:57] <rashy> yo
L1924[16:48:40] <XDjackieXD> good night
everyone o/ I have to get up early tomorrow...
L1925[16:48:42] <Kilobyte> extern { fn
component_invoke(name: *const u8, arg_count: u8, args: **c_void);
}
L1926[16:48:57] <Kilobyte> simple example
how you'd use components from rust then
L1927[16:48:58] <gamax92> Kilobyte: that
could work
L1928[16:49:00] <Kilobyte> yup
L1929[16:49:12] <Kilobyte> with llvm
support at least
L1930[16:49:17] <Kilobyte> sadly llvm is
complex as fuck
L1931[16:49:37] <Kilobyte> actually, i
forgot a param for component uuid
L1932[16:49:48] <Kodos> A substring is
just part of a string, sometimes commonly used, yes?
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L1934[16:50:06] <gamax92> not sure about
the last part of that sentence
L1935[16:50:11] <Kilobyte> Kodos: idk
what you mean by everything after the comma
L1936[16:50:12] <gamax92> but a substring
is just part of a string, yes
L1937[16:50:14] <Kodos> Things like 'per
second'
L1938[16:50:14] <Kilobyte> first part is
true
L1939[16:50:30] <Kodos> Nevermind
>.>
L1940[16:50:56] <Greys> there appear to
be some projects for running the C# and java virtualmachines within
the same process
http://jni4net.com/
L1941[16:51:09] <Kilobyte> ogod
L1942[16:51:13] <Kilobyte> double
bloat
L1943[16:51:16] *
Kilobyte runs
L1944[16:51:17] <Greys> probably
L1945[16:51:29] <Kilobyte> plus i doubt
that works on non-windows
L1946[16:51:44] <Kilobyte> (except in
wine, certainly not in mono tho)
L1947[16:51:47] <Kodos> ~w inventory
controller
L1949[16:52:26] <Kilobyte> i am sure mono
is better performance wise than wine for .NET
L1950[16:52:37] <Antheus> \o
L1951[16:53:44] <Kodos> I want to be able
to 'aim' the adapter, a la AE2 ME Interface blocks
L1952[16:54:12] <sugoi> Kilobyte:
indeed
L1953[16:54:21] <sugoi> (mono vs
wine)
L1954[16:54:28] <Kilobyte> after all in
mono it natively extracts the opcode
L1955[16:54:36] <Antheus> Well
L1956[16:54:44] <Antheus> I just got
home, and am going to bed
L1957[16:54:49] <Antheus> o/
L1958[16:54:50] <Kilobyte> while in wine
the .NET runtime itself runs wrapped
L1959[16:55:24] <Kilobyte> .exe <->
CLR <-> wine <-> os vs .exe <-> mono <->
os
L1960[16:55:35] <Kilobyte> as an
advantage: in wine you can load dlls
L1961[16:55:41] <Kilobyte> that are not
.NET ones
L1962[16:56:33] <Kodos> Okay, Space
Truckin' Radio is on, time to code :3
L1963[16:58:02] *
Kilobyte now wants a beer
L1964[16:58:34] <Kodos> Woo, erroring
works
L1965[16:59:27] <Kilobyte> wat
L1966[16:59:30] <Kodos> Wow, sides api
covers just about everything
L1967[16:59:30] *
Kilobyte tests
L1968[16:59:33] <Kilobyte> ook fail
L1969[17:01:04] <Greys> so C# in OC would
be a hella lot of work, darn
L1970[17:01:33] <Greys> kinda weird
though that nobody's made a java addon though
L1971[17:01:47] <Kilobyte> java is hard
to sandbox
L1972[17:01:59] <Kilobyte> so is c#
L1973[17:02:04] <Greys> java is hard to
like
L1974[17:02:15] <Kilobyte> you'd have to
run stuff as a separate process
L1975[17:02:24] <Kilobyte> Greys: yeah,
but there are things like scala
L1976[17:02:35] <Kilobyte> and java
bytecode is actually decent
L1977[17:02:38] <sugoi> you'd have to run
on a separate process, that's the key to this, as Kilobyte
said
L1978[17:02:50] <Kilobyte> (lets ignore
that the jvm is bloaty as fuck)
L1979[17:03:10] <Greys> well there's a
question in that; if I did just run a second process; could OC
accept that?
L1980[17:03:11] <sugoi> whether it was
run in wine or native mono
L1981[17:03:15] <Kilobyte> sugoi:
sandboxing a process is almost trivial though
L1982[17:03:32] <sugoi> agreed
L1983[17:03:35] <Kilobyte> Greys: you'd
have to make your mod implement communication between both
processes
L1984[17:03:39] <Greys> obviously my
addon would have to bridge things, but is there anything about OC
that's incompatible with a second process
L1985[17:03:50] <Kilobyte> not that i
see
L1986[17:03:53] ***
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L1987[17:04:00] <Sangar> ugh, i start
remembering why i went back to windows the last few times i tried
to switch to linux... :/ enough trying to get sound to work for a
day
L1988[17:04:25] ***
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L1989[17:04:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: try
switching to jack
L1990[17:04:26] <sugoi> Sangar: agreed. i
dont really like doing anything on linux where audio or graphics is
involved :)
L1991[17:04:27] <gamax92> this is your
fault for having some fancy not normal sound setup
L1992[17:04:32] <Kilobyte> that may give
you more luck
L1993[17:04:50] <Kilobyte> sugoi:
graphics is fine is you have an nvidia card and you use official
propietary drivers
L1994[17:04:51] <Sangar> who is
jack?
L1995[17:05:02] <Kilobyte> Sangar: audio
framework
L1996[17:05:09] <sugoi> Kilobyte: i only
use nvidia, and official drivers
L1997[17:05:10] <gamax92> nvidia and
linux ... is pretty good
L1998[17:05:21] <sugoi> but configuring x
over the years made me distaste the experience
L1999[17:05:21] <Sangar> ah. might have a
look at it tomorrow
L2000[17:05:23] <Kilobyte> sugoi: haven't
had a single issue with that
L2001[17:05:28] <sugoi> and then often x
would work, but then my usb devices wouldn't
L2002[17:05:44] <Kilobyte> haven't had
issues with that either yet
L2003[17:05:49] <sugoi> Kilobyte: well, i
stopped using graphics on linux over 10 years ago, perhaps things
have improved
L2004[17:05:58] <Kilobyte> very
likely
L2005[17:06:06] <sugoi> but i honestly
dont care anymore, windows is great for games
L2006[17:06:11] <sugoi> i use linux for
eveything else
L2007[17:06:15] <Kilobyte> a lot of the
stuff that used to be a pain to configure now works out of the
box
L2008[17:06:16] <Kilobyte> :P
L2009[17:06:24] <Kodos> Bleh
L2010[17:06:50] <Kodos> Got all hyper,
and the energy from that somehow transferred into anger for
whatever fucking reason, so now I have a desire to punch someone in
the face with no rational reason or specific target
L2011[17:06:53] <Kilobyte> i don't even
have a windows install ATM
L2012[17:07:05] <Kilobyte> yay
L2013[17:07:40] <Kilobyte> (actually, i
have a win 10 preview (sic!) vm)
L2014[17:07:47] <Sangar> if i can't get
this set up by the end of the week i'll flatten it and install
windows again >_> and then set up a vm with all the dev stuff
inside or something :P
L2015[17:07:55] <Kilobyte> didn't boot
that in weekd
L2016[17:08:11] <sugoi> Sangar: what are
you hoping to build?
L2017[17:08:26] <sugoi> or, what type of
dev env are you going for?
L2018[17:08:29] <Sangar> sugoi, nothing
in particular
L2019[17:08:33] <Kilobyte> when i set up
my PC first time, it took me 2 days to get it to work (arch
though)
L2020[17:08:34] <Sangar> just in
general
L2021[17:08:47] <Dramien> Built a rocket
yo
L2022[17:08:52] <Dramien> Bout to fly
dawg
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L2024[17:08:59] <Dramien> Can't
stop
L2025[17:09:05] <Dramien> Cuz we're so
high
L2026[17:09:07] <Dramien> Hands up
L2027[17:09:12] <Dramien> And touch the
sty
L2028[17:09:19] <Kilobyte> meanwhile
trying to find something to eat
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L2030[17:09:21] <CompanionCube> Sangar:
what's left to setup
L2031[17:09:31] <Kilobyte> haven't eaten
all day
L2032[17:09:39] <Kilobyte> and now shops
are closed
L2033[17:09:44] <Sangar> i really want to
have linux as my main os, what with windows going down the drain,
but having to sink hours into it just to get something as basic as
*sound* to work properly... is kind of a turnoff
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L2035[17:09:59] <Abbsence> I'm gay don't
tell dramien
L2036[17:10:08] <Abbsence> Everytime you
talk to me call me gayboy
L2037[17:10:09] <Inari> I'm dramien,
don't tell gay
L2038[17:10:11] <sugoi> Greys: once your
out of process, the work becomes duplicated with a lot of ipc.
since you'd be talking java on the oc side, it doesn't matter what
arch the other process has
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L2040[17:10:16] <CompanionCube> On the
plus side, once shit's done it stays done
L2041[17:10:23] <sugoi> Greys: what type
of mod are you thinking of doing, anyways?
L2042[17:10:24] <Kodos> ...
L2043[17:10:26] <Kilobyte> I'm fairly
surprised that that isn't working out of the box
L2044[17:10:31] <Inari> what was that
anyway
L2045[17:10:42] <Kodos> Inari, no idea,
tempted to tempban
L2046[17:10:55] <Kodos> Not really
L2047[17:10:57] <Kodos> But wtf,
tho
L2048[17:11:13] <Sangar> Kilobyte, well,
i do have an actual sound card, still (asus xonar), so that
probably has something to do with it :P
L2049[17:11:24] <Kilobyte> banning ppl
that already have quit rarely is any useful
L2050[17:11:27] <Kodos> I have a J-Star
MassSound card
L2051[17:11:57] <gamax92> Kilobyte:
they've been here like ... 4 times now?
L2052[17:12:04] <gamax92> joining, saying
something stupid, and then quitting
L2053[17:12:06] <sugoi> Sangar: what
linux distro?
L2054[17:12:09] <Kilobyte> i have an
on-board one and one in my sennheiser mixer
L2055[17:12:13] <Sangar> and yes i have
found the archwiki page detailing how to set that exact card up,
but didn't work for me so far :P
L2056[17:12:15] <Sangar> sugoi,
mint
L2057[17:12:16] <Kilobyte> ook sorry
then
L2058[17:12:36] <bawr_> Sangar: shame, my
hardware tends to just work, but I'm not mad enough to think that
is the case for everybody, or even the common case ;_;
L2059[17:12:38] <Kodos> How stupid of an
idea is it to wire 4 servers on a single rack to one adapter
L2060[17:12:47] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ask in
their irc channel?
L2061[17:12:52] <CompanionCube> ^
L2062[17:13:07] <Sangar> hm, could do
that, yeah
L2063[17:13:20] <CompanionCube> Usually
on freenode.
L2064[17:13:23] <Sangar> tomorrow :P i'm
off for today. gnight o/
L2065[17:13:28] <Starhero-MC> Sangar: its
freenode and you need to reg just warning
L2066[17:13:31] <bawr_> well. until my
SSD got blacklisted as a broken LTRIM device (which it is) in the
linux kernel, I could've had a bad, bad time, to be fair.
L2067[17:13:32] <Kilobyte> mint isn't
freenode
L2068[17:13:32] <Sangar> k
L2069[17:13:38] <Kodos> Sangar, you
forgot server rack extensions :3
L2070[17:13:46] <bawr_> but somehow I
wasn't on linux right after the upgrade xD
L2071[17:13:47] <Sangar> well, whatever,
i'll figure that much out i guess :P
L2072[17:13:53] <Sangar> Kodos, i
did?
L2073[17:14:02] <Kodos> Something
something this weekend - Sangar
L2074[17:14:07] <Sangar> i said next
weekend :P
L2075[17:14:11] <Kodos> Ah
L2076[17:14:21] <Sangar> anyway, i need
sleep, cya ;)
L2077[17:14:24] <Kodos> Gn
L2078[17:14:25] <Kilobyte> night
L2079[17:14:40] <Inari>
USB-soundcard!
L2080[17:14:47] <Kilobyte> found some
soup in basement
L2081[17:15:03] <Kilobyte> like, one that
you put together with hot water
L2082[17:15:21] <Kilobyte> not best, but
at least something to fill my stomach
L2083[17:15:42] <bawr_> like, the
traditional student lunch?
L2084[17:15:53] <bawr_> dried pasta and
spices, half of which is salt?
L2085[17:15:55] <Kilobyte> pretty much
xD
L2086[17:15:59] <bawr_> cool
L2087[17:16:04] <Kilobyte> actually no
pasta
L2088[17:16:21] <bawr_> well, no pasta is
just blasphemy
L2089[17:16:38] <Kilobyte> only thing i
found
L2090[17:16:47] <bawr_> luckily,
*my*packet of artificial cardboard just-add-boiling-water food
comes with that
L2091[17:16:48] <bawr_> xD
L2092[17:16:52] <Kilobyte> the pasta
stuff has all been eaten
L2093[17:17:03] <bawr_> heh
L2094[17:17:08] <bawr_> used to have a
friend
L2095[17:17:09] <bawr_> well
L2096[17:17:11] <bawr_> know a guy
L2097[17:17:16] <bawr_> who ate the pasta
raw
L2098[17:17:31] <bawr_> and sprinkled the
spices over plain bread
L2099[17:17:35] <bawr_> >_>
L2100[17:17:37] <Kilobyte> "best
before March 2010"
L2101[17:17:54] <Kilobyte> actually
February
L2102[17:18:04] <bawr_> Kilobyte: and the
production date?
L2103[17:18:13] <Kilobyte> idk
L2104[17:18:27] <bawr_> hm
L2105[17:18:28] <Kilobyte> probably 2008
or 2009
L2106[17:18:59] <bawr_> well, in my
official capacity as a human trashcan, devouring forgotten and
questionable meals
L2107[17:19:38] <bawr_> I declare it
"somewhat safe", as in "probably won't kill you,
probably won't even make you take off into orbit on the porcelain
throne"
L2108[17:20:06] <Kilobyte> well guess why
it has been in our basement that long
L2109[17:20:24] <bawr_> ...you haven't
invested in a human trashcan? xD
L2110[17:20:31] <Kilobyte> yes
L2111[17:21:12] <Kilobyte> bleh that
needs more spices
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L2113[17:22:12] *
CompanionCube donates food from Taco Bell
L2115[17:22:18] <gamax92> ohai S3
L2116[17:22:41] <Kilobyte> yeah better
now
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L2118[17:24:23] <Inari> auth servers dead
again
L2119[17:24:24] <Inari> :<
L2120[17:25:55] <bawr_> Kilobyte:
experimental cooking, I like it
L2121[17:26:49] <bawr_> okay, time to get
some work done
L2122[17:26:53] <bawr_> youtube
work
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L2124[17:27:58] <Kilobyte> with some
cayenne pepper it's actually not too bad
L2125[17:32:20] <bawr_> ah, spicy
stuff
L2126[17:32:34] <bawr_> the stuff of
awesomeness
L2127[17:32:41] <bawr_> I approve.
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L2131[17:34:19] <bawr_> Kodos: cool IE
setup going there
L2132[17:34:42] <Kodos> Yep, just need to
rebalance the wires and shiz
L2133[17:35:09] <Kodos> I need to double
check the max output on a Mekanism reactor
L2135[17:37:05] <DerekStiles> I'm
thinking of writing a reddit like thinggy in Lua
L2136[17:37:10] <DerekStiles> After I
eat
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L2138[17:38:20] <bawr_> Inari: I...
what
L2139[17:38:39] <Kilobyte> bawr_: i
survived the meal
L2140[17:38:45] <Kilobyte> \o/
L2141[17:39:08] <bawr_> what am I seeing,
aside for boobs, a cringe-worthy heart-on-nose-whatever, and tumblr
glasses? xD
L2142[17:39:20] <Kilobyte> given the food
was almost half as old as i am, it was actually pretty nice
L2143[17:39:59] <Kilobyte> half me
age:9.75, food probably like 7 years
L2144[17:40:39] <S3> yeah IE is really
cool
L2145[17:40:43] <S3> I'm still learning
about it
L2146[17:41:10] <Kodos> I'm stoked for
the Arc furnace
L2147[17:41:18] <Kodos> Saw pictures of
it yesterday. Gonna be a HUGE multiblock
L2148[17:41:24] <Kilobyte> i hope you
don't mean that laggy piece of shit made by Microsoft?
L2149[17:41:26] <S3> I was thinking of
making an addon for Immersive Engineering. what do you think of
this guys.
L2150[17:41:40] <S3> an addon for OC, to
allow you to run fiber cables for components for OC.
L2151[17:41:47] <S3> using IE
L2152[17:41:50] <Kilobyte> ook
L2153[17:42:08] <S3> doesn't sound
cool?
L2154[17:42:34] <bawr_> Inari:
anyway...
L2155[17:42:36] <Kodos> S3, ZI adds OC
telecommmunications wires already
L2156[17:42:36] <bawr_> Inari:
>g2a_Com - $ 3,569,69 - Biggest Donger on twitch.
L2157[17:42:39] <bawr_> ...oh wow
L2158[17:42:43] <bawr_> that's one
person
L2159[17:42:46] <S3> really? I didnt see
them
L2160[17:42:49] <bawr_> all of my
wat
L2161[17:42:49] <S3> what are rthey
called?
L2162[17:42:55] <Kodos> Telecommunication
Wires
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L2164[17:42:59] <S3> oooooooh
L2165[17:43:12] <S3> whats ZI?
L2166[17:43:15] <Kodos> Zetta
Industries
L2168[17:43:29] <S3> and they can mount
on my IE poles?
L2169[17:43:32] <Temia> Yep.
L2170[17:43:34] <Kodos> Yes
L2171[17:43:39] <S3> noice.
L2172[17:43:47] <Temia> ZI is still in
private development though, isn't it?
L2173[17:43:52] <Kodos> Uhh no?
L2174[17:43:56] <Temia> Oh, hm.
L2175[17:44:09] <Kodos> Not sure if any
Starchasers are here atm, but one of them could link the
jenkins
L2176[17:44:34] <Temia> Yeah, but a
single Jenkins frontend doesn't lend itself to visibility
much.
L2177[17:44:38] <Temia> Or a promise of
stability.
L2178[17:45:12] <Kodos> I've been using
ZI just fine with no issues
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L2180[17:45:27] <S3> man my server
doesn't have ZI
L2181[17:45:54] <Temia> I said promise of
stability, not actual stability :P
L2183[17:46:16] <Temia> As in having
actual releases instead of just nightlies.
L2184[17:47:11] <Kodos> Right now I'm
self-teaching integrated circuits to myself to decide what to use
them for
L2185[17:47:40] <S3> Kodos, build a
microprocressor.
L2186[17:48:10] <Temia> Simpler: build
your own keyboard.
L2187[17:48:53] <Kodos> I wouldn't have a
clue how to do either of those things
L2188[17:49:06] <S3> believe it or
not
L2189[17:49:10] <S3> building a keyboard
is a PITA
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L2191[17:49:24] <Kodos> I had thought
about doing a bundled AND Gate, so I could use my various machines'
redstone status outputs to know when all systems are nominal, or
when I need to check the maintenance panel
L2192[17:49:26] <S3> a lot of them
nowadays work like a PLA
L2193[17:49:36] <Temia> Oh
L2194[17:49:37] <S3> and the cat just
stole my popcorn
L2195[17:49:37] <gamax92> Protection of
Integrated Technology Association
L2196[17:49:41] <Temia> wWe were talking
about in-game.
L2198[17:49:48] <Temia> ...
L2199[17:49:50] <Kodos> Lol
L2200[17:49:59] *
Temia sighs and tinkers with an arduino and a pile of multiplexers
and microswitches. .3.
L2201[17:50:05] <Kodos> Outside of
Minecraft, I'm pretty much a layman when it comes to things like
that
L2202[17:50:15] *
gamax92 tapes an LED to a battery
L2203[17:50:21] <gamax92> LOOK MOM, I
made something!
L2204[17:50:27] *
Temia bops Gamax
L2205[17:50:30] *
Temia hands a resistor.
L2206[17:50:33] <Temia> You forgot
this.
L2207[17:50:45] <gamax92> what is this
for .-.
L2208[17:50:48] <S3> Temia, I have an
ATMega 324A on a breadboard. I don't really like the arch much, but
it's a lot more fun imo to use the atmega chip directly than it is
to use an arduino
L2209[17:50:54] <Temia> Reducing the
current so the LED doesn't fry.
L2210[17:51:22] <Temia> Possibly, but
it's also less of a hassle to iteratively reflash an arduino.
L2211[17:51:28] <S3> the one cripe I have
about AVR is that it is port baded and only has like 4.
L2212[17:51:33] <S3> depending on the
chip
L2213[17:51:38] *
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L2214[17:51:56] <S3> gamax92, you should
eat one of..
L2215[17:52:18] <Temia> I mean I guess if
I was bored enough I could put together an FTDI reflashing circuit,
a bunch of PICs and some DIP sockets...
L2216[17:52:23] <S3> hmm I cant find it
hold on
L2217[17:52:23] *
Temia meeeeh
L2218[17:52:39] <Temia> ZIF sockets are
costly though, even in single numbers
L2219[17:52:46] <S3> I was looking for a
picture of the type of capacitor they use in transmission
towers
L2220[17:53:00] *
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L2221[17:53:03] <S3> gamax92, they're
usually a couple hundred pounds and surrounded in concrete.
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L2223[17:53:14] <S3> they also will
explode
L2224[17:53:56] <S3> I can't find a
picture, but I've seen them up close.
L2225[17:54:05] <S3> (When I took a
telecom class)
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L2228[17:57:19] <gamax92> rain rain go
away
L2229[17:57:43] <bawr_> Temia: pshaw,
reducing the current, just wire the led the other way around
L2230[17:57:50] <bawr_> who said it has
to actually light up
L2231[17:58:52] <Temia> ...
L2232[17:59:02] *
Temia shines a laser pointer in Bawr's eyes
L2233[17:59:13] <gamax92> if you maul me
I will likely die
L2236[18:03:19] <S3> gamax92 is made of
iron
L2237[18:03:36] <gamax92> you can still
maul iron ;-;
L2238[18:07:31] <S3> We need a mod that
adds zelda like proximity battle sounds
L2239[18:07:44] <S3> so when you're near
zombies and shit it plays the battle music quietly, until you get
close and aggro
L2240[18:07:49] <S3> and then boss
music
L2241[18:07:54] <Kodos> Oh wow
L2242[18:08:00] <Kodos> Crashed my pack
for the first time in like... 2 weeks?
L2244[18:08:13] <S3> Kodos, you are at
fault! :D
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L2246[18:10:25] <andyipod1437> any one
have a gool opensecitry alarm program
L2247[18:10:32] <bawr_> Inari:
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
L2248[18:10:38] <bawr_> Inari: 1HP
1HP
L2249[18:11:08] <Kodos> andyipod1437,
what sort of program are you wanting?
L2250[18:11:11] <Kodos> What do you want
it to do?
L2251[18:11:50] <andyipod1437> me? i want
a a rfid reader if not in the list. to maybe write the username in
a file somewhere and a sound go off
L2252[18:12:45] <Kodos> So an
unauthorized access logger?
L2253[18:12:51] <andyipod1437> yes
L2254[18:12:59] <Kodos> That wouldn't be
hard to code
L2255[18:13:03] <Kodos> Are you familiar
with Lua?
L2256[18:13:07] <andyipod1437> not
really
L2257[18:13:16] <S3> andyipod1437, I read
that as "opensecretary"
L2258[18:13:16] <Kodos> Ah, was going to
give you a white/blacklist example
L2259[18:13:49] <andyipod1437> the user
dose not have to have a rfid. it could be whitelist and
blacklist
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L2261[18:16:29] <andyipod1437> is there a
program already
L2262[18:17:38] <bawr_> andyipod1437: to
be honest, it would be so small that probably no one has bothered
to upload it, but
L2263[18:17:41] <bawr_> you may have some
luck on
L2265[18:17:55] <andyipod1437> i have
look there already
L2266[18:23:20] <andyipod1437> no
luck
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L2269[18:27:33] <Kodos> Bleh, stupid
mekanism and EIO not getting along
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L2274[18:30:49] <Kamran> Kodos: What's
happening when you try and use Mek and EIO together?
L2275[18:31:04] <Kodos> I stuck an item
buffer on a logistical sorter, and I crashed
L2276[18:31:09] <Kodos> Ticking TE or
some such
L2277[18:32:24] <Kamran> did you create
and issue about that on Mekanism's issue tracker?
L2278[18:32:28] <Kamran> an*
L2279[18:32:45] <Kamran> btw i don't know
how to fix that, i haven't played Minecraft modded in a while
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L2281[18:33:23] <Kamran> best to also
report the issue on the EIO issue tracker as well
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L2283[18:34:43] <Kodos> It literally just
crashed, and not yet
L2284[18:34:52] <Kodos> I doubt it's a
new thing, and is likely fixed
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L2286[18:38:17] <Kodos> I actually may
try pulling EIO altogether and see how long I can go without it. I
cannot offhand name anything from it I can't live without
L2287[18:38:33] <andyipod1437> kodos: do
you have a program ?
L2288[18:38:45] <Kodos> Not one I'm
willing to publicly share atm, no
L2289[18:38:52] <andyipod1437> okay
L2290[18:39:09] <Kodos> I need to replace
how I do my hashing, since I use some RL elements to it.
L2291[18:39:26] <andyipod1437> okay i
understand
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L2293[18:55:48] <andyipod1437> kodos can
a block from opencomptuers or opensecurtiy get plays near by?
L2294[18:56:24] <andyipod1437>
players?
L2295[18:57:02] <Kodos> Computronics has
a block that can do that
L2296[18:57:12] <Kodos> OC has the motion
sensor if you want passive detection, too
L2297[18:57:18] <Kodos> Computronics has
the Radar though
L2298[18:57:21] <Kodos> It really depends
on your needs
L2299[18:57:36] <andyipod1437> i dont
have computronics
L2300[18:57:53] <Kodos> I highly
recommend it, it adds quite a few nice things
L2301[18:57:54] <andyipod1437> looking at
writing an alarm program
L2302[18:58:02] <Kodos> It's an
OpenComputers addon as well
L2303[18:58:13] <andyipod1437> i play on
a private server
L2304[18:58:50] <andyipod1437> what about
the sensor from openperipheral
L2305[18:58:54] <Kamran> Kodos: I like
computronics, its an amazing addon for OC
L2306[18:59:26] <Kodos> I'm not sure
about OpenPeripherals, I -think- I have it, but I don't use it
actively
L2307[18:59:40] <andyipod1437> okay
L2308[19:09:39] <Mimiru> OpenSecurity has
an EntityDetector
L2309[19:09:43] <Mimiru> and it can do
players only
L2310[19:09:55] <Kodos> Right, derp
L2311[19:09:57] <Kodos> Forgot about
OS'
L2312[19:11:20] <vifino> Another
bruteforce attact to ssh.
L2313[19:11:29] <vifino> But this time, I
didn't have any ports open.
L2314[19:11:36] <vifino> And now I'm
scared.
L2315[19:11:44] <andyipod1437>
thanks
L2316[19:13:57] <andyipod1437> mimiru:
how would i get it to scan for players
L2318[19:16:17] <Kodos> I wonder how hard
it would be to make dual-authorization entry into an OS Door via
two players magcard swiping
L2319[19:16:30] <Kamran> Kodos: I don't
know lol
L2320[19:16:39] <Kamran> also i asked ya
something in #rftools
L2321[19:16:39] <Kamran> :D
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L2323[19:26:17] <Kodos> I need an office
desk looking thing. Blocks of steel in a framed desk aren't cutting
it
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L2326[19:29:41] <Kamran> Kodos: what mod
is that?
L2327[19:30:01] <Kodos> Which part?
There's like 4 in that picture
L2328[19:30:07] <Kamran> The desks
L2329[19:30:09] <Kodos> 5,
technically
L2330[19:30:18] <Kodos> The desks are
framed bibliocraft desks, screwgunned together
L2331[19:30:24] <Kodos> They're textured
with IE Blocks of Steel
L2332[19:30:26] <Kamran> ah, neat!
L2333[19:30:39] <Kodos> The books on the
left one are standard empty books, the paperstack is
decocraft
L2334[19:30:45] <Kamran> thats neat
L2335[19:30:45] <Kodos> Decocraft2*
L2336[19:30:51] <Kamran> and the printer
is from opencomputers, right?
L2337[19:30:55] <Kodos> OpenPrinter
L2338[19:30:57] <Temia> You can screw
desks together!?
L2339[19:31:10] <Temia> This changes
EVERYTHING @_@
L2340[19:31:24] <Kamran> Kodos: thought
it was from OC since OC added printers a long time ago :D
L2341[19:31:49] <gamax92> OC has printers
that aren't openprinter?
L2342[19:32:05] <Kamran> i think so
yeah
L2343[19:32:25] <gamax92> ~w
printer
L2345[19:32:30] <Kodos> Kamran, how much
crack have you smoked today?
L2346[19:32:35] <Kodos> OC has never had
printers
L2347[19:32:49] <gamax92> actually wtf is
this ... Printer.scala
L2348[19:33:00] <Kodos> Link?
L2349[19:33:00] <Temia> Well, it kind of
does now, but it's 3D, not 2D `o`
L2350[19:33:05] <gamax92> oh the 3d
printer
L2351[19:33:07] <Kodos> Temia, fair
enough
L2352[19:33:08] <Kodos> Yeah
L2353[19:33:10] <gamax92> carry on
L2354[19:33:13] <Kamran> Kodos: oh, i
meant 3d printers lol
L2355[19:33:28] <Kodos> 3D Printing =\=
Printing
L2356[19:33:34] <Kodos> In the
traditional sense
L2357[19:33:45] <Temia> Resin instead of
ink.
L2358[19:33:52] <S3> Kodos, it can be
printing
L2360[19:33:56] *
gamax92 always turns in documents in giant plastic
slabs
L2361[19:33:57] <Temia> And the
media.
L2362[19:33:59] <Temia> `o`
L2363[19:34:07] <Temia> That would
actually be hilarious
L2364[19:34:09] <Temia> But
unwieldy.
L2365[19:34:14] <Temia> You'd be better
off with a laser cutter
L2366[19:34:32] <S3> Kodos, I have a
photo of my fiance and I, 3D printed in prototyping plastic. it is
different thicknesses for different greyscale colors
L2367[19:34:40] <S3> when you hold it to
light it makes ahigh resolution black and white image
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L2370[19:35:05] <S3> which looks
absolutely 2D
L2371[19:35:09] <andyipod1437> in
opensecurity how do i get it to known the alarm block is
there
L2372[19:36:37] <andyipod1437> i known i
have to do this alarm = component.os_alarm but in the .lua file how
do i get the program to knwon
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L2375[19:40:43] <Kamran> Kodos: How did
you do that? :D
L2376[19:41:02] <Kodos> Ask gamax92
L2377[19:41:27] <Kamran> gamax92: How did
he do that? :D
L2378[19:41:39] <gamax92> XD
L2379[19:41:49] <Kamran> i really want to
know :)
L2380[19:42:24] <gamax92> it's a script
containing a bunch of GPU calls to render specifically that picture
on screen
L2381[19:42:39] <Kamran> can i have a
link to that script? :)
L2382[19:42:41] <Kamran> please?
L2383[19:42:47] <gamax92> Ask Kodos
L2384[19:43:01] <Kodos> gamax92, I think
he wants the converter, not the program that loads a picture of my
wife and myself
L2385[19:43:13] <Kamran> yeah lol
L2386[19:43:26] *
gamax92 whistles ... ^^;
L2387[19:43:55] <Kamran> now if only you
could play youtube videos in opencomputers, that would be hella
awesome xD
L2388[19:44:10] <Kamran> but alas i think
that would be extremely difficult
L2390[19:45:13] <Kamran> gamax92: ah,
alright. thanks. Also, what's the ccemu thing?
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L2392[19:45:23] <gamax92> a cc emulator
for oc
L2393[19:45:34] <Kamran> computercraft
emulator? what?
L2394[19:45:42] <gamax92> yes that is
what i said
L2395[19:46:00] <Kamran> lol, that seems
like a really interesting program
L2396[19:47:17] <andyipod1437> mimiru:
can you help with the Entity Detector?
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L2398[19:50:26] <andyipod1437> i can not
get it to output
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L2400[19:55:57] <Kodos> Andy, if you're
not familiar with Lua, have you thought about using a mod called
SecurityCraft? It adds swipecards and retina scanners and such to
operate doors and whatnot
L2401[19:56:54] <Kodos> It doesn't use
computers, and has fairly easy to set up systems via GUIs
L2402[19:56:59] <andyipod1437> i dont own
the server
L2403[19:57:04] <Kodos> Ah
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L2405[19:58:13] <andyipod1437> that my
problem
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L2407[20:01:52] <andyipod1437> could you
just help me get it to output
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L2409[20:02:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2>
andyipod1437: I can help
L2410[20:03:44] <andyipod1437> is there a
way to pm SuPeRMiNoR2?
L2411[20:06:02] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Yes,
depends on your client
L2412[20:06:17] <andyipod1437> i use
hexchat i can download a diffent one
L2413[20:06:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> hexchat is
good
L2414[20:10:31] <Kodos> Geez, 3D printing
has been out since march
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L2416[20:13:48] <Kamran> Kodos: yep
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waiting for updates to finish atm
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L2428[21:31:28] <Shuudoushi> But for some
fucking reason, windows couldn't remember which of my monitors is
on which side XD
L2429[21:31:45] <alleluid> hey, there
wouldn't happen to be anything that allows you to use Python
instead of Lua?
L2430[21:32:14] <Shuudoushi> Oh, and my
keyboard won't work in any of my computers rear USB ports...
L2431[21:32:27] <Izaya> There's an addon
in development, alleluid, but nothing stable yet
L2432[21:33:02] <Shuudoushi> There should
be arm soon enough as well
L2433[21:33:17] <Izaya> How much RAM will
the ARM arch have?
L2434[21:33:41] <Shuudoushi> Talk to
DerekStiles
L2435[21:35:00] <Izaya> will we be able
to run a UNIX on it?
L2436[21:35:19] <Izaya> That's what I
want to know
L2437[21:36:51] <vifino> Izaya: Probably
not, so he said.
L2438[21:36:57] <Izaya> :<
L2439[21:37:01] <Izaya> ah well
L2440[21:37:02] <vifino> Yeah, I
know.
L2441[21:37:10] <Izaya> we'll abuse
something into running on there
L2442[21:37:35] <vifino> He is working on
his own OS for it, though.
L2443[21:37:47] <Izaya> will it have
multitasking/timesharing?
L2444[21:37:52] <vifino> It is similar to
openos - Almost unixy.
L2445[21:37:55] <Izaya> that's the main
thing I want
L2446[21:38:10] <vifino> I think he is
working on that, not sure.
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L2449[21:38:38] <vifino> But he did get
elf loading done, was working on a proper arg parser.
L2450[21:47:16] <Izaya> okay,
problem:
L2451[21:47:22] <Izaya> I'm getting a new
server
L2452[21:47:24] <Izaya> Xeon and
shit
L2453[21:47:29] <Izaya> Dunno what to
call it :<
L2454[21:47:39] <Izaya> as usual my
classmates are totally useless for naming
L2455[21:47:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2>
xeonandshit
L2456[21:48:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> XD
L2457[21:48:13] <Izaya> ...
L2458[21:48:30] <vifino> xerxes
L2459[21:49:17] <Izaya> ......
L2460[21:49:25] <gamax92>
xexexe.jpg
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L2464[22:08:20] <gamax92> gotta love
videos where the first 3~4 minutes are someone loading up a browser
to play a song in youtube and then opening up wordpad and playing
with fonts and font sizes
L2465[22:08:44]
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L2467[22:11:05] <gamax92> and then the
obvious: hey guyx{backspace}z todda{backspace}{backspace} im gunna
show yoi{backspace}y{backspace}u{backspace}{backspace}{backspace}u
my gaem that i mae{backspace}de in gamemakerz
L2468[22:13:06] <vifino> The air plane
flies across the Sky, where it goes is in your mind.
L2469[22:13:44] <Izaya> know what I
want?
L2470[22:13:49] <Izaya> Combustible
rain.
L2471[22:14:07] <Izaya> If you separated
the hydrogen/oxygen, it would probably self-combust
L2472[22:14:36] <vifino> You still need
heat.
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L2474[22:15:26] <Izaya> true
L2475[22:15:34] <Izaya> tis fine, it
would cause a chain reaction
L2476[22:15:47] <Izaya> the issue would
be separating the atoms in falling rain
L2477[22:15:52] <Izaya> like sure you
could make your own
L2478[22:15:56] <Izaya> but that isn't as
fun
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L2480[22:17:06] <vifino> Izaya: Since the
"rain" would be gaseous, it wouldn't really be called
rain anymore, would it?
L2481[22:17:44] *
gamax92 puts vifino in a biplane
L2482[22:17:55] <vifino> Apart from that,
the flame would probably spread faster than the gaseous mixture
could reach the ground. It would basically be a flame and then
dissappear into the horizon.
L2483[22:18:10] <Izaya> daaamnit
L2484[22:18:20] <Izaya> my dream is
ruined
L2485[22:19:12] <vifino> If your dream
was to see the world turn into a flaming fireball, it would work,
but only if the gaseous mixture would be all over earth before it
ignites.
L2486[22:20:03] <vifino> But if the rain
wouldn't be water, it would be very much more fun.
L2487[22:20:12] <vifino> Oil.
L2488[22:20:26] <vifino> Flame
rain.
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L2490[22:21:06] <vifino> You can't use
alcohol because it would vaporize too quickly.
L2491[22:21:23] <vifino> But a thick
mixture would actually work.
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L2493[22:22:35] <vifino> But if the point
is to destroy earth, why not just have acid rain?
L2494[22:22:40] <vifino> Much
simpler.
L2495[22:22:51] <Izaya> vifino, because
acid rain isn't firey
L2496[22:23:04] <vifino> Fair
enough.
L2497[22:23:09] <Izaya> though
L2498[22:23:20] <Izaya> I could just
position laser sattelites above the earth
L2499[22:23:37] <Izaya> and boil the
seas
L2500[22:23:43] <Izaya> and light the
forests on fire
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L2502[22:25:23] <vifino> Izaya: You could
probably use the lasers to ignite the mixture.
L2503[22:25:31] *
Shuudoushi ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS:
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro ** CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
(3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 12253 MB Total (8763 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST ** Uptime: 1.00 Hours **
L2504[22:25:31] <vifino> I mean, the oil
rain.
L2505[22:25:40] <Izaya> lasers and fire
:D
L2506[22:25:45] <vifino> Yeah.
L2507[22:25:51] <gamax92> that
Anthlon
L2508[22:26:04] <Shuudoushi> ?
L2509[22:26:08] <Izaya> (tm)
L2510[22:26:12] <Shuudoushi> what about
it?
L2511[22:26:51] <vifino> Dang, now I want
to do mad-scientist stuff.
L2512[22:27:04] <gamax92> haaa ....
L2513[22:27:08] *
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L2514[22:27:45] <vifino> I should make
something like the "What if?" book, but with questions
like that.
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L2516[22:28:00] <vifino> "how
burning rain?!?!!?"
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L2520[22:29:11] <Izaya> vifino What If:
Evil Mad Scientist edition
L2521[22:29:25] <vifino> Something like
that, yes.
L2522[22:29:41] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Implying
that the existing what if book is not made by a mad scientist
L2523[22:29:59] <vifino> SuPeRMiNoR2:
Shh.
L2524[22:30:01] <Izaya> anyway,
quake
L2525[22:30:23] <vifino> Oh, yeah, Izaya:
I got a game recommendation for you. Xonotic.
L2526[22:30:37] <vifino> tl;dr quake 3
with shiny graphics
L2527[22:30:50] <vifino> It works
incredibly well on old hardware.
L2528[22:31:20] <vifino> On my laptop, I
can't play youtube at 3k resolution. I can play Xonotic at 60fps at
the same resolution.
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L2530[22:31:49] <vifino> No idea how, but
this game just decides to justwork(tm)
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L2532[22:35:54] <gamax92> "I was
shocked and surprised to see that ENIGMA compiled EXE get detected
as virus ! BehavesLike.Win32.PWSZbot.th, McCaffee. I used
virustotal.com. When I compiled same project with ENIGMA, it
detected 1/57....... This is classified as MALWARE."
L2533[22:36:29] <gamax92> "When I
compiled same project with ENIGMA, it detected 1/57"
L2534[22:36:32] <gamax92>
"1/57"
L2535[22:36:36] <gamax92>
"1"
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L2537[22:42:56] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I was
shocked and suprised to read that
L2538[22:51:09] <vifino> Oh shit it's
almost 6.
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L2542[23:01:21] <vifino> Alright, worked
a bit on my syslog-ng replacement today, time to sleep.
L2543[23:01:34] <vifino> Good night
people.
L2544[23:01:37] <vifino> Good night,
gamax92.
L2545[23:01:54] <gamax92> Why am I
separate :<
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L2547[23:02:42] <vifino> Because I like
you more than "people", gamax92.
L2548[23:02:48] <dangranos> wat
L2549[23:02:53] <gamax92> Awwww
L2550[23:02:55] <dangranos> did youtube
updated player?
L2551[23:02:58] <gamax92> yes
L2552[23:03:03] *
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L2553[23:03:06] <vifino> dangranos: Yes,
the new player went out of beta.
L2554[23:03:08] <dangranos> it's broken
._.
L2555[23:03:10] *
vifino hugs gamax92 back
L2556[23:03:16] <dangranos> there is no
video
L2557[23:03:27] <vifino> Anyhow,
sleep.
L2558[23:03:28] <vifino> \o
L2559[23:04:39] <dangranos> fck
L2560[23:04:44] <dangranos> it IS
bigger
L2561[23:04:52] <dangranos> damn you
touch-screens
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L2564[23:14:24] <dangranos> Q_Q
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L2568[23:35:48] <dangranos> XD
L2569[23:35:49] <Izaya> fffff
L2570[23:35:56] <dangranos> "Also,
this "as cable" feature is both popular and in many cases
necessary, and I have no desire to remove it." - Reika
L2571[23:36:00] <Izaya> my animation is
only 1/2 the length that I need
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