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L1[00:00:05] <ThePotato> does anyone know
how i can run a function over network
L2[00:00:07] <Temia> Because a tier 1
computer is apparently 64 metallum among other things
L3[00:00:22] <SoraFirestorm> Temia: the only
other green dye I have is from BOP
L4[00:00:23] <gamax92> Temia: are these your
custom recipes?
L5[00:00:27] <SoraFirestorm> which requires
BOP moss
L6[00:00:28] <Temia> *64*. Even after
several combinations that only have about 75% of the base material
essentiae
L7[00:00:33] <Temia> No, this is stock
L8[00:00:51] <ThePotato> ?
L9[00:01:08] <ThePotato> how do i run a
function over modem
L10[00:01:14] <SoraFirestorm> like
L11[00:01:16] <Temia> I haven't scanned the
computer with my recipe set as it's part of a pack update that I am
still working out some other problems on
L12[00:01:23] <ThePotato> um
L13[00:01:26] <SoraFirestorm> ThePotato:
explain better pls
L14[00:01:39] <ThePotato> i have a server
rack with server in it
L15[00:01:42] <ThePotato> and a client
computer
L16[00:01:46] <Temia> Potato wants to
remotely execute arbitrary code
L18[00:01:52] <SoraFirestorm> theeen
L19[00:02:02] <SoraFirestorm> you'll likely
need to string.dump() the function
L20[00:02:05] <SoraFirestorm> actually
wait
L21[00:02:10] <SoraFirestorm> does that
provide the bytecode?
L22[00:02:17] <ThePotato> and i wanna have
a client send a function and server execute then return a
response
L23[00:02:26] <gamax92> MS07-052: Code
execution results in code execution.
L24[00:02:27] <Temia> Bytecode doesn't work
anyway by default.
L25[00:02:31] <SoraFirestorm> depends on
how you send it
L26[00:02:37] <Temia> Since it's kind of a
gigantic security hole
L27[00:02:37] <SoraFirestorm> Temia: right,
which is why I was asking
L29[00:02:50] <SoraFirestorm> So
L30[00:02:55] <ThePotato> wait
L31[00:02:57] <gamax92> quick, port a lua
decompiler to OC
L32[00:02:57] <Ekoserin|Off> ThePotato:
What do you plan on using this for?
L33[00:02:58] <SoraFirestorm> You'd
basically have to send the function as source
L34[00:03:13] <gamax92> so we can
string.dump, and then decompiler it into code, and then run the
code
L35[00:03:13] *
Temia wants to try her hand at the idea of signed bytecode, but has
been too damned lazy to set up a development
environment
L36[00:03:35] <ThePotato> Ekoserin|Off:
basically i plan on being able to have a network of computers with
the server for processing stuff
L37[00:03:46] <ThePotato> i think i know
how to do this i did this in gmod
L38[00:03:47] <Ekoserin|Off> In
multiplayer?
L39[00:03:54] <ThePotato> ye
L40[00:04:03] <ThePotato> basically i had a
function
L41[00:04:06] <Ekoserin|Off> Hacked clients
will format that server, guaranteed
L42[00:04:16] <SoraFirestorm> yeaaah
L43[00:04:20] <SoraFirestorm> that
too
L44[00:04:21] <ThePotato> it gonna be
protected
L45[00:04:30] <ThePotato> does that
matter?
L46[00:04:46] <gamax92> Welp, time to
reboot and see if I can still boot or not.
L47[00:04:47] <Temia> To explain, my idea
is that dumping byte code will sign it with the game server's
unique key, which is required to match on any bytecode it then
tries to run
L48[00:05:11] <SoraFirestorm> Temia: is
that a thing currently?
L49[00:05:14] <Temia> Bytecode is thus not
that portable, but can be utilised to save space if the debug
symbols are also stripped
L50[00:05:14] <SoraFirestorm> I had no
idea
L51[00:05:30] <Temia> A thing in OC? No. A
thing in software in general? Oh, definitely.
L52[00:05:37] <gamax92> Temia: and ofc, a
lua 5.2 bytecode verifier should be used anyway, right?
L53[00:05:37] <SoraFirestorm> I was asking
about OC
L54[00:05:48] <Temia> Yeah, no, not at
all.
L55[00:05:59] <Temia> That's why I'd need
to set up a development environment to try my idea out.
L56[00:06:06] <Temia> Gamax: Maybe.
L57[00:06:19] <Temia> Depends on how
quickly the verifier works.
L58[00:06:28] <gamax92> ofc
L59[00:07:05] <Temia> I can't remember, are
hashbangs supported by OC's lua?
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L61[00:07:17] <gamax92> don't believe
so
L62[00:07:21] <Temia> meh.
L63[00:07:36] <SF-Toaster> 'supported' as
it?
L64[00:07:39] <SF-Toaster> as in?
L65[00:08:09] <SF-Toaster> as long as
Sangar hasn't changed it
L66[00:08:19] <Temia> Processed like
hashbangs typically are (in case of scripting languages being
written within OC, or alternative architectures), or simply being
ignored
L67[00:08:21] <SF-Toaster> The interpretter
should still ignore a chunk who's first line starts with #!
L68[00:08:28] <SF-Toaster> See
L69[00:08:32] <SF-Toaster> Because with
normal Lua
L70[00:08:35] <SF-Toaster> it just ignores
it
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L72[00:08:39] <Temia> Yeah.
L73[00:08:43] <SF-Toaster> It's up to the
host system to actually *do* anything with it
L74[00:08:55] <SF-Toaster> if at all
L75[00:08:56] <SF-Toaster> So
L76[00:09:02] <SF-Toaster> I'd wager on it
being ignored
L77[00:09:17] <Temia> Though if it is
ignored, it wouldn't be hard at all for OSes to implement
parsing
L78[00:09:26] *
gamax92 sighs
L79[00:09:31] <SF-Toaster> Temia:
sure
L80[00:09:31] <gamax92> TIME TO FIREUP UP
OCEMU
L81[00:09:32] <SF-Toaster> but
L82[00:09:38] <Temia> But? .3.
L83[00:09:40] <SF-Toaster> when would that
be a thing?
L84[00:09:45] <SF-Toaster> why would it be
necessary?
L85[00:09:49] <Ekoserin|Off> OCEmu? I want!
I want!
L86[00:09:52] <Temia> ...Cleanliness?
L87[00:09:54] <gamax92> nope its not
supported
L88[00:10:00] <Temia> And again, future
architecture support?
L89[00:10:04] <Temia> AW MAN WHAT.
L90[00:10:13] <Temia> Maybe I should write
a patch for OpenOS to support it then.
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L92[00:10:24] <gamax92> also i don't know
wtf you are talking about
L93[00:10:25] <gamax92> >
=load("#!/usr/bin/lua\nprint('Hello')")
L94[00:10:25] <gamax92> nil [string
"#!/usr/bin/lua..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '#'
L95[00:10:29] <Temia> Plus again, maybe
someone will want to make a shell script down the line
L96[00:10:30] <gamax92> clearly isn't
ignoring it
L97[00:10:41] <SF-Toaster> uh
L98[00:10:43] <SF-Toaster> but
L99[00:10:47] <SF-Toaster> I dunno about
this
L100[00:10:50] <gamax92> uh but
nothing
L101[00:10:53] <SF-Toaster> as soon as
Minecraft starts up again
L102[00:10:56] <SF-Toaster> I'll try it
too
L103[00:11:06] <Ekoserin|Off> ~oc
screen
L105[00:11:09] <ThePotato> is sleep() a
function
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L107[00:11:12] <ThePotato> or
os.sleep
L108[00:11:23] <Temia> Yes.
L109[00:11:42] <SF-Toaster> it's
os.sleep()
L110[00:11:52] <ThePotato> can someone
helpme contact sangar
L111[00:12:01] <SF-Toaster> ThePotato:
why?
L112[00:12:26] <Kodos> He's asleep, what
do you need
L113[00:12:29] <Temia> ...Wait, hang
on
L114[00:12:32] <SF-Toaster> t^
L115[00:12:39] <ThePotato> Id like to
request a feature
L116[00:12:45] <Kodos> What's that?
L117[00:12:45] <SF-Toaster> Github bug
tracker
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L119[00:12:55] <ThePotato> CTRL + R to run
the program being edited
L120[00:13:00] <Temia> OpenOS has hashbang
support!
L121[00:13:11] <SF-Toaster> Temia: did you
make a file?
L122[00:13:13] <Temia> Yeah.
L123[00:13:20] <SoraFirestorm> that's what
I thought
L124[00:13:24] <gamax92> bleh really?
:\
L125[00:13:27] <gamax92> Welp time to go
fix that then
L126[00:13:32] <Temia> And I used the UNIX
convention for lua's location, which it complained about
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L128[00:13:43] <Temia> So I symlinked
/usr/bin/lua5.2 to /bin/lua.lua and tada `o`
L129[00:13:51] <SF-Toaster> nic
L130[00:13:54] <SF-Toaster> nice
L131[00:13:59] <gamax92> why even
...
L132[00:14:06] <SF-Toaster> idk
honestly
L133[00:14:11] <SF-Toaster> seems pretty
useless to me but ymmb
L134[00:14:17] <SF-Toaster>
s/ymmb/ymmv/
L135[00:14:17] <Kibibyte>
<SF-Toaster> seems pretty useless to me but ymmv
L136[00:14:20] <gamax92> no i mean
ocemu
L137[00:14:36] <Temia> Hm?
L138[00:14:49] <SF-Toaster> gamax92: I'm
pretty sure Lua only ignores it if it's a file being loaded
L139[00:14:51] <Temia> I did this in
OCEmu. o.o
L140[00:14:52] <SF-Toaster> something like
that
L141[00:16:06] <SF-Toaster> gamax92: Lua
5.3 reference manual, section 7
L142[00:16:14] <SF-Toaster> I'd link, but
that is difficult on this system
L143[00:16:57] <Temia>
...interesting.
L144[00:17:01] <gamax92> you do realize
that everything in OC gets loaded via load, right?
L145[00:17:12] <gamax92> the whole
filesystem components and whatnot
L146[00:17:25] <Temia> I tried to make a
shell script, pointed the hashbang to /bin/sh.lua, and it's
complaining about a bad argument when I run the script.
L147[00:17:29] <SF-Toaster> Then I'd wager
it's the shell
L148[00:17:42] <SF-Toaster> that does the
translation
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L150[00:19:10] <ThePotato> how do i run a
function by a string
L151[00:19:23] <ThePotato> so i broadcast
to the server "runFunc <funcName>"
L152[00:19:32] <ThePotato> and the server
runs the function funcName
L153[00:20:26] <Temia> ...Aha
L154[00:20:29] <Temia> I think I found the
problem
L155[00:20:39] <Temia> Legacy code in
sh.lua
L156[00:21:01] <Temia> It's calling
execute(...) but execute() now requires an environment as well as
the command
L157[00:21:14] <Temia> And it hasn't
generated that environment
L158[00:21:30] <ThePotato> are my messages
being read
L159[00:21:49] <Temia> But wait...
L160[00:21:58] <ThePotato> ill take that
as no
L161[00:22:01] <Temia> Nothing else
calling execute has that environment being defined either o.o
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L164[00:22:09] <Mimiru> [00:21:53]
<ThePotato>
ill take that as no
L165[00:22:21] <Mimiru> Stop assuming
because people aren't answering you they can't see shit.
L166[00:22:22] <ThePotato> does anyone
know
L167[00:22:31] <Temia> ... Okay, now I'm
confused. @.@
L168[00:22:42] <gamax92> ThePotato: that's
a horridly broad question
L169[00:23:06] <ThePotato> gamax92: does
anyone know the answer to my question
L170[00:23:23] <gamax92> no, your question
is too vague
L171[00:23:32] <Kodos> Maybe if you asked
in a way we could understand what you're talking about
L172[00:23:37] <ThePotato> ok what can i
enlighten on the question
L173[00:23:40] <ThePotato> ok
L174[00:23:47] <ThePotato> i will give the
sequence i need to happen
L175[00:24:15] <ThePotato> client >
sends function name > server runs function > returns
output
L176[00:25:02] <ThePotato> is that
better
L177[00:25:03] <ThePotato> .
L178[00:25:05] <ThePotato> ?*
L179[00:27:03] <ThePotato> ~w modem
L181[00:27:22] <gamax92> ThePotato: cool,
but where are these functions on the server?
L182[00:27:44] <ThePotato> the same area
where the code receives the message
L183[00:27:52] <gamax92> are they in a
custom table, the global environment, stored in files, etc
etc?
L185[00:30:49] <gamax92> ThePotato: you'll
have to make a table, and store math into that table, then in
runFunc you'd do something like custom_table[func]()
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L187[00:31:13] <SF-Toaster> yaaaay!
L188[00:31:15] <gamax92> what you have
there will never work
L189[00:31:19] <SF-Toaster> Minecraft
crashed *again*! :D
L190[00:31:26] <SF-Toaster> ugh
L191[00:32:14] <gamax92> anyway,
sleeeeep
L192[00:32:22] <Ekoserin|Off> Is there a
color picker allowing me to choose color depth?
L193[00:32:28] <SF-Toaster> bai
gamax92
L194[00:32:36] <SF-Toaster> Ekoserin|Off:
no
L195[00:32:40] <SF-Toaster> iirc
L196[00:32:45] <SF-Toaster> actually
L197[00:32:46] <SF-Toaster> no
L199[00:35:00] <Ekoserin|Off> Damn.
L200[00:35:58] <ThePotato> gamax92:
?
L201[00:40:39] <Izaya> :o
L202[00:40:44] <Izaya> I have a Special
Thinger?
L203[00:41:14] <Mimiru> Theoretically, yes
:P
L205[00:42:37] <Mimiru> Damn, just had to
take a picture.
L206[00:43:11] <ThePotato> im stuck
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L210[00:44:24] <SF-Toaster> uh
L211[00:44:37] <SF-Toaster> You don't need
the parens in the key
L212[00:44:46] <DrHoffman> Wow, with 2mb
of memory my arm os leaves 1912468 for the allocator
L213[00:44:48] <SF-Toaster> not unless you
want to send the function name like that
L214[00:44:59] <DrHoffman> #lua
1912468/1024/1024
L215[00:44:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1.8238716125488
L216[00:44:59] <SF-Toaster> that
L217[00:45:03] <SF-Toaster> and you are
calling the function
L218[00:45:06] <ThePotato> yeah i do
L219[00:45:17] <SF-Toaster> that's not
what you want
L220[00:45:19] <SF-Toaster> I'm pretty
sure
L221[00:45:22] <DrHoffman> So pretty much
only uses 0.2mb for everything right now
L222[00:45:29] <Izaya> 200k?
L223[00:45:40] <SF-Toaster> function
thing() print("Thing") end
L224[00:45:43] <SF-Toaster> local t =
{}
L225[00:45:49] <SF-Toaster>
t["thing"] = thing
L226[00:45:55] <SF-Toaster>
t["thing
L227[00:45:56] <DrHoffman> Izaya: It's
pretty insane how small it is
L228[00:46:11] <DrHoffman> vs an Lua
OS
L229[00:46:13] <SF-Toaster>
t["thing"]() will print "thing"
L230[00:46:14] <Izaya> I have a lua one
using <128k
L231[00:46:26] <DrHoffman> hmm
L232[00:46:36] <DrHoffman> Well, I do have
static allocations everywhere :P
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L234[00:46:48] <Izaya> OpenOS is bloated
and plan9k is OpenOS-compatible for the most part
L235[00:46:48] <Ekoserin|Off> When my GPU
crashes, it waits 20 seconds then screams at the top of its lungs
via my speakers.
L236[00:46:56] <DrHoffman> And my .data
section can be minimized a bit
L238[00:47:33] <SF-Toaster> source
please
L239[00:48:07] <ThePotato> how do i send
it?
L240[00:48:17] <ThePotato> is there a
pastebin command?
L241[00:48:18] <SF-Toaster> do you have
github?
L242[00:48:26] <SF-Toaster> pastebin works
too I guess
L243[00:48:31] <SF-Toaster> gotta have a
network card though
L244[00:48:44] <DrHoffman> Ok, so I messed
around with the linker script a little and now it's at 2038112
available at startup
L245[00:48:48] <Mimiru> internet card,
pastebin put filename
L246[00:48:50] <DrHoffman> #lua
2038112/1024/1024
L247[00:48:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1.9436950683594
L248[00:48:57] <DrHoffman> Holy
shit.
L249[00:49:00] <ThePotato> i do i have it
already broadcasting...
L250[00:49:13] <SF-Toaster> network
card
L251[00:49:17] <SF-Toaster> ok
L252[00:49:19] <SF-Toaster> internet
card
L253[00:49:33] <SF-Toaster> that's what I
meant to say
L254[00:49:38] <ThePotato> should...
L255[00:49:54] <SF-Toaster> the network
card and internet card are two different cards
L256[00:50:03] <SF-Toaster> network card
is for OC game network
L257[00:50:11] <SF-Toaster> internet card
is for real-world TCP/IP sockets
L258[00:50:12] <ThePotato> ok got both of
those
L259[00:50:14] <ThePotato> ik
L260[00:50:17] <SF-Toaster> theeen
L261[00:50:26] <SF-Toaster> should be on
the internet card's fs
L262[00:50:30] <SF-Toaster> dunno
L263[00:50:36] <SF-Toaster> never really
used the internet card
L264[00:51:05] <Izaya> 12 bit character
encoding
L265[00:51:08] <Izaya> 4096 chars
L266[00:51:12] <Kodos> We need database
cards
L267[00:51:13] <Izaya> what could I do
with that?
L268[00:51:22] <Kodos> Or blocks
L269[00:52:04] <SF-Toaster> getting it
ThePotato ?
L270[00:52:08] <ThePotato> nope
L271[00:52:11] <ThePotato> not on
there...
L272[00:52:26] <SF-Toaster> can someone
with an emulator say where the pastebin program is?
L273[00:52:39] <Mimiru> put internet card
in computer
L274[00:52:43] <Mimiru> run pastebin put
filenamne
L275[00:52:56] <Mimiru> it's in bin if the
card is in the computer.
L276[00:53:02] <SF-Toaster> I figured as
much
L277[00:53:07] <SF-Toaster> ThePotato
?
L278[00:53:24] <ThePotato> found the code
on the rl comp fs
L279[00:53:33] <Kodos> Mimiru, I can has
database component in OS?
L281[00:54:06] <Mimiru> Kodos, umm...
what?
L282[00:54:17] <Kodos> You're familiar
with the Database upgrade for robots/adapters, yes?
L283[00:54:26] <Mimiru> No
L284[00:54:29] <Kodos> >.>
L285[00:54:31] <Kodos> ~w database
L287[00:54:54] *
Mimiru shrugs
L288[00:54:59] <Kodos> Bah
L289[00:55:04] <Kodos> I'll poke Sanger
about it tomorrow
L290[00:55:09] <Kodos> If my wife doesn't
drag me to the Xbox
L291[00:55:33] <SF-Toaster> ThePotato: try
doing this above line 29
L292[00:55:39] <Ekoserin|Off> <sexist
statement>
L293[00:56:01] <SF-Toaster> for k, v in
pairs(split(tostring(message), " ")) do print(k.." -
"..v) end
L294[00:56:22] <ThePotato> i already have
a split func
L295[00:56:27] <SF-Toaster> ik
L296[00:56:33] <SF-Toaster> I'm using the
one you've written
L297[00:56:34] <ThePotato> replace
it?
L298[00:56:37] <SF-Toaster> no
L299[00:56:46] <SF-Toaster> just put that
in above line 29
L300[00:56:49] <SF-Toaster> make it the
new line 29
L301[00:56:54] <SF-Toaster> right below
the 'else'
L302[00:57:19] <ThePotato> ok now
what
L303[00:57:23] <SF-Toaster> run it
L304[00:57:27] <SF-Toaster> I want to see
the output
L305[00:57:37] <SF-Toaster> It's just
debug code
L306[00:57:42] <SF-Toaster> to get a dump
of the table
L308[00:58:59] <SF-Toaster> ThePotato: do
this
L309[00:59:11] <SF-Toaster>
print("math" == "math()")
L310[00:59:23] <SF-Toaster> in the
interpretter, in your program, whatever
L311[00:59:38] <ThePotato> where
L312[01:00:00] <SF-Toaster> in the
program? right below your for loop is good a place as any
L313[01:00:28] <SF-Toaster> now
L314[01:00:34] <ThePotato> didnt do
anything
L315[01:00:34] <SF-Toaster> I already know
what's going to happen
L316[01:00:48] <ThePotato> wut
L317[01:00:56] <SF-Toaster> try this
instead
L318[01:01:17] <SF-Toaster>
"math" == "math()" and print("Is
equal") or print("Is not equal")
L320[01:02:23] <SF-Toaster>
seriously
L321[01:02:24] <SF-Toaster> ugh
L322[01:02:25] <SF-Toaster> fine
L323[01:02:26] <SF-Toaster> point is
L324[01:02:42] <SF-Toaster> the string you
are trying to index and the string that you use for the assignment
is not the same string
L325[01:02:46] <SF-Toaster> therefore, it
breaks
L326[01:03:36] <SF-Toaster> you can do one
of two things
L327[01:03:41] <SF-Toaster> one of which
is 'more correct'
L328[01:03:59] <SF-Toaster> try to figure
it out on your own for a couple minutes
L329[01:04:16] <SF-Toaster> and if you're
still having trouble, then I can guide you in the right
direction
L330[01:05:27] <SF-Toaster> brb
L331[01:08:41] <ThePotato> SF-Toaster: you
back
L332[01:09:04] ***
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L333[01:09:54] <ThePotato> SF-Toaster:
?
L334[01:10:02] <ThePotato> SF-Toaster: i
figured out a way
L335[01:10:17] <SF-Toaster> ok
L336[01:10:20] <SF-Toaster> what is
it?
L337[01:10:21] <ThePotato> functions =
{math = function() return blablabla end}
L338[01:10:33] <Kodos> ~w api
geolyzer
L340[01:10:33] <SF-Toaster> did you try
that?
L341[01:10:37] <ThePotato> ya
L342[01:10:41] <ThePotato> idk if it works
tho
L343[01:10:45] <ThePotato> imma try
something
L344[01:10:49] <SF-Toaster> check and
see
L345[01:11:35] <ThePotato> i get a
function: uasdf1293-0
L346[01:12:30] <SF-Toaster> ok, if that
was the only thing you did
L347[01:12:34] <SF-Toaster> then it didn't
do anything
L348[01:12:42] <SF-Toaster> that part was
fine the way it was
L349[01:12:48] <SF-Toaster> the error lies
in a different place
L350[01:13:47] <ThePotato> theres no
erro
L351[01:13:50] <ThePotato> error*
L352[01:14:05] <SF-Toaster> unless you
changed other things other than your table constructor
L353[01:14:07] <SF-Toaster> yes there
is
L354[01:14:17] <Kodos> Wow, hologram is
quite a bit faster now
L355[01:14:55] <ThePotato> i did
L356[01:15:09] <SF-Toaster> then I'd like
your new code
L357[01:15:15] <ThePotato> i did function
= {math = function() return 5 + 5 end}
L358[01:15:22] <SF-Toaster> what else did
you do
L359[01:15:23] <SF-Toaster> ?
L361[01:16:16] <SF-Toaster> "This
paste has been removed!"
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L364[01:18:11] <SF-Toaster> then if you
get that output, you fixed it
L365[01:18:13] <SF-Toaster> now
L366[01:18:22] <SF-Toaster> do you
understand *why* it wasn't working before?
L367[01:18:34] <ThePotato> no but i get a
random thing that says
L368[01:18:45] <ThePotato> function: and
the some random numbers
L370[01:19:17] <SF-Toaster> the random
thing is tonumber()'s representation of a function
L371[01:19:35] <ThePotato> but the
function is returning a number so i need to string...?
L372[01:19:41] <SF-Toaster> printing
"function: <address of function in memory>"
L373[01:19:59] <SF-Toaster> and btw
L374[01:20:16] <SF-Toaster> no where are
you actually calling the function in functions[func[2]]
L375[01:20:46] <ThePotato> i am
L376[01:21:02] <SF-Toaster> not in that
latest pastebin you aren't
L377[01:21:03] <ThePotato> under
func
L378[01:21:15] <ThePotato>
print(tostring(functions[func[2]]))
L379[01:21:27] <SF-Toaster> you're not
calling functions[func[2]] though
L380[01:23:08] <Mimiru> Wouldn't it be
print(tostring(functions[func[2]]())) or something..?
L381[01:23:25] <SF-Toaster> that would end
up calling functions[func[2]], yes
L382[01:23:39] <SF-Toaster> ThePotato:
notice what Mimiru has done differently from you
L383[01:23:43] <Mimiru> otherwise you're
just tostring-ing the function
L384[01:23:48] <SF-Toaster> Mimiru:
exactly
L385[01:24:23] <ThePotato> i got it
L386[01:24:44] <ThePotato> thanks for your
help SF-Toaster, Mimiru
L387[01:24:53] <SF-Toaster> no
problem
L388[01:25:05] <SF-Toaster> I hope you
learned a lot :)
L389[01:25:09] <ThePotato> did
L390[01:25:12] <ThePotato> :D
L391[01:26:22] <ThePotato> damn player
api
L392[01:26:47] <ThePotato> damn no player
api*
L393[01:27:43] <ThePotato> ~internet
L394[01:27:49] <ThePotato> ~w
internet
L396[01:30:40] <ThePotato> do addons for
oc have to be in scala?
L397[01:31:00] <Mimiru> No, the API is in
Java
L398[01:31:39] <ThePotato> you know what
sucks
L399[01:31:48] <ThePotato> i finally got
that finished and it doesnt work
L400[01:31:51] <Mimiru> black holes?
L401[01:31:53] <ThePotato> wait not
L402[01:31:58] <ThePotato> not that
L403[01:32:03] <SF-Toaster> lies
L404[01:32:04] <ThePotato> im so
tired
L405[01:32:04] <SF-Toaster> they do!
L406[01:32:18] <ThePotato> im finally
finished and i dont know what to add
L408[01:35:09] <ThePotato> wtf is
that
L409[01:35:36] <SoraFirestorm> the
wireless networking card
L410[01:36:44] <SoraFirestorm> that you
apparently installed on the robot
L411[01:37:41] <ThePotato> why is it like
that though
L412[01:37:56] <SoraFirestorm> because the
robot shows the stuff attached to it
L413[01:38:04] <SoraFirestorm> it's a
little weird looking, granted
L414[01:42:52] *
PotatoTrumpet stares at ThePotato
L415[01:43:16] *
ThePotato stares back at PotatoTrumpet
L416[01:43:56] *
ThePotato says "What'r YOU doin round these
parts?"
L417[01:44:47] <SF-Toaster> *ahem*
L418[01:44:54] <SF-Toaster>
fightfightfightfightfight
L419[01:44:58] <SF-Toaster> :P
L420[01:45:43] <ThePotato> lel
L421[01:47:22] <PotatoTrumpet> Excuse me,
I was here before you
L422[01:47:36] *
PotatoTrumpet slaps ThePotato
L423[01:47:36] *
EnderBot2 chuckles
L424[01:47:39] <PotatoTrumpet> :3
L425[01:47:39] <Kodos> Oi, both of you
play nice
L426[01:47:44] <SF-Toaster>
FIGHTFIGHTFIGHTFIGHT
L427[01:47:48] <SF-Toaster> >:D
L428[01:47:52] *
PotatoTrumpet shoves ThePotato into a Toaster
L429[01:47:59] <SF-Toaster> D:
L430[01:48:18] <PotatoTrumpet> Well, now
that that problem is solved
L431[01:48:22] <PotatoTrumpet> who wants
toasted potato
L432[01:48:26] <Izaya> Anyone know what
mod adds the command to use a drone (from a different mod) to
deliver an item to a player?
L433[01:48:31] *
ThePotato gets back up, throws PotatoTrumpet into fryerm fries him,
and eats him.
L434[01:48:32] <Izaya> /amazondeliver or
something
L435[01:48:47] <Izaya> it wasn't OC and it
wasn't factorization
L436[01:48:49] <Kodos> Izaya,
pneumaticcraft
L437[01:48:53] <Kodos> It's their
drones
L438[01:48:54] <Mimiru> Pny ^
L439[01:48:56] <PotatoTrumpet> Pfft,
ThePotato please. I've been digested in Mimiru's stomach for the
past year
L440[01:48:58] <Mimiru> pnu* lol
L441[01:49:07] <Izaya> thanks Kodos
:D
L442[01:49:09] <ThePotato> Leel
L444[01:49:14] <Temia> Um.
L445[01:49:15] <PotatoTrumpet> !
L446[01:49:25] <Mimiru> I need my effing
glasses
L447[01:50:25] <ThePotato> how do i target
players in oc?
L448[01:50:30] <Kodos> Elaborate
L449[01:51:38] <PotatoTrumpet> Stop.
L450[01:51:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Collaborate
and listen
L451[01:51:53] <ThePotato> getting off
:(
L452[01:51:59] <ThePotato> lel was
thinking the same
L453[01:52:03] <SoraFirestorm> laters
then
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L455[01:52:16] <SoraFirestorm> Don't worry
Kodos
L456[01:52:23] <SoraFirestorm> I was just
as confused as to what he wanted :P
L457[01:52:30] <Kodos> I really really
wish I could ban people for stupidity
L458[01:53:11] <SoraFirestorm> only
numerous repeated offenses though
L459[01:53:13] <SoraFirestorm>
honestly
L460[01:53:17] <SoraFirestorm> We all
start somewhere
L461[01:53:49] <PotatoTrumpet> If you
could ban people for stupidity, 90% of the active users in this
channel would be banned
L462[01:54:01] *
Izaya stares at PotatoTrumpet
L463[01:54:06] <SoraFirestorm> 90%?
L464[01:54:14] <SoraFirestorm> Isn't that
a little bit... high?
L465[01:54:57] <Temia> Sturgeon's
law.
L466[01:55:10] <Kodos> Annnd now I'm
hungry for fish
L467[01:55:23] <SoraFirestorm> Temia: fair
enough
L468[01:55:25] <Temia> 90% of a given
collection is of poor quality.
L470[01:56:54] <Mimiru> the splash screen
crashed.
L471[01:57:16] <SoraFirestorm>
weeelll...
L472[01:57:33] <SoraFirestorm>
cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException:
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
pneumaticCraft/common/thirdparty/buildcraft/TileEntityPneumaticEngine
L473[01:57:33] <Mimiru> If it keeps
happening goto /config/splash.properties and change enabled to
false
L474[01:57:46] <Izaya> hiw dies the splash
screen crash? o.O
L475[01:57:47] <Kodos> They need to just
pull that fucking 'feature'
L476[01:57:53] <Kodos> Izaya, because FML
is fucking retarded
L477[01:57:57] <SoraFirestorm> which ends
up at
L478[01:57:59] <SoraFirestorm> Caused by:
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
buildcraft.api.power.IPowerReceptor
L479[01:58:03] <PotatoTrumpet> Izaya, do
you still have that potatofail thing?
L480[01:58:06] <SoraFirestorm> We have a
mod cross-compat error?
L481[01:58:13] <Mimiru> The splash screen
hides actual errors all the time
L482[01:58:15] <SoraFirestorm> With
pneumaticcraft and buildcraft?
L483[01:58:15] <Mimiru> it's effing
annoying
L484[01:58:33] <Kodos> It's literally
Forge failing at life
L485[01:58:44] <SoraFirestorm> Am I
missing something here?
L486[01:58:48] <Izaya> PotatoTrumpet,
potatofail?
L487[01:59:04] <Izaya> I thought that was
your job.
L488[02:00:22] <Izaya> Updated my
BuildCraft
L489[02:00:41] <Mimiru> from what
version?
L490[02:01:00] <SF-Toaster> and to what
version?
L491[02:01:03] <Izaya> 7.0.13 ->
7.0.17
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L493[02:01:29] <Mimiru>
BuildCraft|Silicon{7.0.13}
L494[02:01:32] <Mimiru> is what's
loaded..
L495[02:01:46] <Izaya> no
L496[02:01:51] <Izaya> that was before I
updated
L497[02:01:55] <SF-Toaster> right
L498[02:02:03] <SF-Toaster> that's what
she's saying
L500[02:03:32] <SoraFirestorm> the head
and tail of that stacktrace are the same still
L501[02:03:38] <Mimiru> Update
Pneumaticraft?
L502[02:03:38] <SoraFirestorm> so it
wasn't buildcraft
L503[02:03:43] <SoraFirestorm> ^
L504[02:03:51] <Mimiru> You're on 1.2.6
1.2.8? is latest
L505[02:05:20] <Izaya> ... touché
L506[02:06:08] <SF-Toaster> tbh
L507[02:06:22] <SF-Toaster> I don't
understand how people have a hard time reading stacktraces in
general
L508[02:06:33] <SF-Toaster> I'm not a Java
programmer and I can still read them
L509[02:06:51] <SF-Toaster> my knowledge
of other languages helps a little, I bet, but still
L510[02:07:33] <Izaya> I can read them
fine, the issue is that they mean nothing to me
L511[02:07:47] <Mimiru> Also.. I have no
idea but does Pneumaticraft need buildcraft-compat?
L513[02:08:19] <Izaya> dunno, installed it
anyway
L514[02:08:29] <Izaya> launched
successfully! :D
L515[02:10:37] <SF-Toaster> yay good for
you Izaya
L516[02:10:58] <Izaya> ... and
amazonDeliver doesn't seem to do anything
L517[02:11:08] <Izaya> does it need an
inventory to pull from?
L518[02:12:38] <Mimiru> -Added a
'deliveryAmazon' command. ?
L519[02:13:39] <Izaya> 'the specified
coordinate doesn't have an inventory'
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L521[02:14:36] <Mimiru> it drops items
into the inventory afaik
L522[02:15:05] <Izaya> except no
coordinates work
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L524[02:15:50] <Izaya> yes those
coordinates do have a fucking inventory
L525[02:16:40] <Kodos> I uninstalled PnC
or I'd check
L526[02:17:03] <SF-Toaster> use
sudo?
L527[02:17:05] <SF-Toaster> idk
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L538[02:32:20] <Mimiru> \o/ Display driver
crashed so hard, windows thinks it's a generic VGA card
L539[02:32:41] <Izaya> so how do drones
interact with the world?
L540[02:36:42] <Izaya> Are there any ways
I can get a player's coordinates with OC?
L541[02:38:44] <Kodos> Debug card
L542[02:38:55] <Izaya> oh yeah, that
exists
L543[02:38:57] <Izaya> yay
L544[02:39:26] <Shuudoushi> Izaya: you
could also try to figure out a way of setting up a legit GPS type
thing
L545[02:39:47] <Izaya> this one is for the
purpose of server administration
L546[02:39:56] <Izaya> oh man I can
remember the ways I abused the debug card
L547[02:40:02] <Izaya> invisible
prisons...
L548[02:40:10] <Shuudoushi> XD
L549[02:40:11] <Izaya> random
explosions...
L550[02:40:17] <Kodos> Invisible
prisons?
L551[02:40:19] <Izaya> worldedit in
OC
L552[02:40:37] <Izaya> Kodos, if they
player has moved outside a given area, teleport them back
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L554[02:40:40] <Shuudoushi> getStrength():
number <- I forgot this was a thing
L555[02:40:46] <Kodos> Ah
L556[02:40:51] <Kodos> wat
L557[02:40:57] <Kodos> getStrength?
L558[02:41:43] <Shuudoushi> yeah
L559[02:41:48] <Shuudoushi> for
modems
L560[02:42:16] <Kodos> Ah
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L562[02:43:07] <Shuudoushi> seems it would
be easyish to make a GPS program
L563[02:43:31] <Shuudoushi> brb
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L569[02:49:12] <Izaya> ~w command
block
L571[02:49:40] <Izaya> runCommand in the
debug card will do
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L576[02:52:35] <SF-Toaster> Does using
runCommand() in th debug card work when command blocks are
disabled?
L577[02:52:48] <SF-Toaster> I know that
CC's command computers don't, for example
L578[02:52:50] <Mimiru> Yes
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L580[02:52:59] <SF-Toaster> cool. good to
know.
L581[02:53:03] <Mimiru> To run op commands
you need to bind the card to an opped player though
L582[02:53:22] *
Izaya has a plan
L583[02:53:23] <SoraFirestorm> wouldn't be
a problem
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L585[02:53:35] <SF-Toaster> ugh
dammit
L586[02:53:36] <SF-Toaster>
minecraft
L587[02:53:37] <SF-Toaster> bro
L588[02:53:38] <SF-Toaster> comeon
L589[02:53:39] <SF-Toaster> pls
L590[02:54:07] <SF-Toaster> I'm pretty
sure it's chickenchunks doing that
L591[02:54:22] <Mimiru> night guys
L592[02:54:31] <SF-Laptop> I've heard
people say not-good things about ChickenChunks
L593[02:54:35] <SF-Laptop> night
Mimiru
L594[02:55:00] <Shuudoushi> night
Mimiru
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L599[03:05:18] <DrHoffman> It's 4 in the
morning
L600[03:05:24] <DrHoffman> why is it 4 in
the morning
L601[03:05:30] <DrHoffman> ugh
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L604[03:05:33] <DrHoffman>
sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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L606[03:05:53] <SoraFirestorm> Becaue of
the progression of time! :D
L607[03:05:59] <SoraFirestorm> It's 1 AM
over here
L608[03:06:04] <SoraFirestorm> btw
L609[03:06:07] <Izaya> 6 PM here
L610[03:06:10] <SoraFirestorm> what's a
'sleep'?
L611[03:06:17] <Izaya> I think you eat
it
L612[03:06:21] <SoraFirestorm> maybe
L613[03:06:21] <SoraFirestorm> idk
L614[03:06:31] <SoraFirestorm> sounds like
it wouldn't taste too good
L615[03:06:42] <Izaya> sounds bland
L616[03:06:47] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
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L619[03:09:06] <SF-Toaster> dammit
minecraft!!!
L620[03:09:08] <SF-Toaster> D:
L621[03:09:30] <SF-Toaster> I've got to
figure out why there is stability issues
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L637[04:01:10] <PotatoTrumpet> TMW you
can't tell if you are going to vomit or have an explosive bowl
movement
L638[04:12:37] <dangranos> uh
L639[04:13:58] <Izaya> Can I use a
chunkloader upgrade in an adaptor to make a computer stay
loaded?
L640[04:14:38] <dangranos> how izaya got
special thinger]?
L641[04:14:51] <Izaya> dunno
L642[04:14:59] <Izaya> maybe 'cause I
helped with the BTM booth
L643[04:15:10] <Izaya> could be another
mod doing it, too, but I dunno.
L644[04:16:19] <dangranos> uh, it's right
in the code of OC
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L647[04:17:04] <Izaya> vifino also helped,
so I guess it's the BTM booth
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L649[04:17:14] <Izaya> \:D/
L650[04:18:30] <Vexatos> I think it's
funny how everyone suddenly knows about this class
L651[04:18:51] <Vexatos> and I ported it
to Java once, a little over a year ago :P
L652[04:19:14] *
Izaya never looked into the 'PetRenderer'
L653[04:19:23] <dangranos> eh, i just
accidently noticed it
L654[04:19:35] <Izaya> I actually noticed
it earlier today
L655[04:19:38] <Izaya> after updating
OC
L656[04:19:58] <Sangar> o/
L657[04:20:01] <dangranos> ah, i wanted to
know what's up with that "Wobbo is wobbo"
L658[04:20:08] <dangranos> hi sangar
L659[04:21:52] <Kodos> Something tells me
ACB didn't implement the API properly...
L660[04:22:05] <Sangar> acb?
L661[04:22:09] <Kodos> Aidancbrady
L662[04:22:11] <Kodos> Mekanism dev
L663[04:22:15] <Sangar> ah
L664[04:22:23] <Sangar> hadn't seen it
abbreviated as that before :P
L665[04:22:26] <Izaya> Kodos, mek is also
using outdated FMP
L666[04:22:46] <Kodos> Izaya, not as of
latest (250)
L667[04:22:55] <Kodos> I've got updated
FMP iirc and it's working
L668[04:23:04] <Izaya> ah, okay
L669[04:23:04] <Kodos> I had to update FMP
because Project Red
L670[04:23:04] <Izaya> might get mek in
the pack yet
L671[04:23:27] <Kodos> I watched a video a
bit ago, of Vaygrim having a ridiculous amount of filters on a
logistical sorter, so now I'm doing that
L672[04:23:37] <Kodos> ATM I'm trying to
get the digital miner programmed via computer
L673[04:23:39] <Kodos> But the methods are
failing
L674[04:23:53] <Kodos> There's zero docs
on how to use the methods, and I can't find them in the Meka
src
L675[04:25:03] <SF-Toaster> speaking of
docs
L676[04:25:09] <SF-Toaster> Hey
Sangar
L677[04:25:32] <SF-Toaster> Why aren't the
programming APIs in the manual?
L678[04:25:38] <SF-Toaster> imo
L679[04:25:50] <Sangar> because it's a
pain to keep them up-to-date >_>
L680[04:25:52] <SF-Toaster> that's
honestly the 1st/2nd thing I'd expect to see
L681[04:25:59] <Sangar> and because
they're in the nei usage
L682[04:26:04] <SF-Toaster> They're
already on the wiki?
L683[04:26:09] <SF-Toaster> oh yeah
L684[04:26:12] <SF-Toaster> that too
L685[04:26:40] <Sangar> but if someone
wanted to add them to the manual i'd not deny a pr. probably :P if
it's formatted nicely and all that.
L686[04:27:04] <SF-Toaster> question
L687[04:27:11] <SF-Toaster> if all that
info is in NEI
L688[04:27:19] <SF-Toaster> that means
it's generated from somewhere, right?
L689[04:27:27] <Temia> It'd be funny if
component/peripheral APIs were styled like a terminal window in
NEI
L690[04:27:31] <Sangar> from annotations
in source code
L691[04:27:36] <Sangar> i.e. @stuff
L692[04:27:41] <Sangar> so via reflection
it's easy, sure
L693[04:27:47] <SF-Toaster> why not use
this generated info and also put it in the manual?
L694[04:28:00] <SF-Toaster> or is there
something that non-Scala me is not getting here?
L695[04:28:15] <Sangar> because the manual
goes "what do you have" in general. nei goes "what
do you have on that item"
L696[04:28:44] <Temia> Scala me
domine
L697[04:28:49] <Sangar> would need a good
bit of mapping stuff here and there, and i just don't have the
motivation for that :X
L698[04:28:53] <SF-Toaster> alright fair
enough
L699[04:28:59] <SF-Toaster> I'll stop
being stupid nao :)
L700[04:29:02] <Sangar> but again, if
someone were to pr it ;)
L701[04:29:10] <SF-Toaster> pffft
L702[04:29:16] <SF-Toaster> not smart
enough for that
L703[04:29:18] <Sangar> nah, fair
questions those
L704[04:29:44] <Kodos> Sangar, we need a
proper database card/component block, without needing a random
adapter on our network :3
L705[04:29:52] <SF-Toaster> I'm not
completely dumb! yay! :P
L706[04:30:03] <Sangar> Kodos, why?
:P
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L708[04:30:29] <Kodos> Because having a
random adapter just to have a database seems... weird I guess
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L710[04:30:44] <Kodos> Maybe a card that
can hold an upgrade?
L711[04:30:53] <Kodos> Only certain
upgrades would work
L712[04:31:00] <Kodos> ie nav, database,
maybe one or two others
L713[04:31:05] <Temia> Speaking of which,
what's the difference between database tiers?
L714[04:31:11] <SF-Toaster> more item
slots?
L716[04:31:29] <Kodos> Pretty much
that
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L718[04:31:50] <Temia> I thought databases
could be programmatically configured anyway. Am I wrong? o.o
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L720[04:32:42] <Kodos> Upgrade Card could
hold Nav, Sign IO, Database, Inv/Tank Controllers, MAYBE
piston
L721[04:33:13] <Kodos> Just one at a time,
obviously, but interchangable by sneak rightclicking with the card
in hand
L722[04:33:19] <SF-Toaster> I was actually
thinking of something like this earlier
L723[04:33:30] <SF-Toaster> I was
wondering if I could use upgrades with normal computers
L724[04:33:35] <Temia> Speaking of which,
is it still possible to put pistons in tablets? >.> And if so
can you actually make them interact with the block you click
on?
L725[04:33:42] <Vexatos> yes
L726[04:33:48] <Temia> ...that is
amazing.
L727[04:33:55] <SF-Toaster> because I need
an inventory upgrade thing and I didn't want a robot because it
didn't need to move
L728[04:34:23] <Temia> SF: adapter?
L729[04:34:33] <Kodos> *Whoosh*
L730[04:34:37] <SF-Toaster> probably
L731[04:34:46] <SF-Toaster> I haven't
checked
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L733[04:35:04] <Temia> They can take a
single upgrade.
L734[04:35:06] <SF-Toaster> and I don't
feel like it because my modpack's startup time is like 2
minutes
L735[04:35:19] <SF-Toaster> and it's going
to crash in less than 5 seconds
L736[04:35:28] <Temia> o.o
L737[04:35:38] <Temia> Crash? Why?
>.>
L738[04:35:52] <SF-Toaster> most of the
time it's a dimension provider thingy error
L740[04:36:10] <SF-Toaster> I don't
remember the exact error
L741[04:36:18] <SF-Toaster> but it usually
has to do with dimension -42
L742[04:36:38] <Temia> ...that's the deep
dark, isn't it?
L743[04:36:50] <SF-Toaster> maybe
L744[04:36:52] <SF-Toaster> I have no
idea
L745[04:36:57] <Kodos> Vexatos, I'm
specifically trying to get 'addOreFilter' to work
L746[04:37:07] <Kodos> If you could point
me to the relevant callback/whatever it uses
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L749[04:38:09] <Izaya> Does Forestry add
any generic backpacks?
L750[04:38:10] <SF-Toaster> it may also be
chickenchunks
L751[04:38:19] <SF-Toaster> I've heard
lots of bad feedback about chickenchunks
L752[04:38:23] <Vexatos> Izaya, why would
it
L753[04:38:36] <Izaya> so I can package
stuff up nicely
L754[04:38:57] <Vexatos> It adds
crates
L755[04:39:03] <Vexatos> and you can put a
lot of items into these
L756[04:39:35] <Izaya> So does Immersive
Engineering
L757[04:39:39] <Izaya> hell yes
L758[04:39:43] <Izaya> drones dropping
crates
L759[04:40:23] <Kodos> Not sure how a PnC
drone would handle something with NBT
L760[04:40:32] <Izaya> let's find out!
:D
L761[04:40:33] <Vexatos> Izaya, IE doesn't
add crate items
L762[04:40:35] <Vexatos> IE adds
blocks
L763[04:40:38] <Vexatos> called
crates
L764[04:40:39] <Izaya> Indeed.
L765[04:40:41] <Izaya> Even better.
L766[04:40:45] <Vexatos> And they're
completely overpowered
L767[04:40:51] <Vexatos> as is most stuff
in IE that's not wires
L768[04:40:56] <Izaya> Kodos, they work
fine
L769[04:41:06] <Izaya> I can now drop
crates full of farming supplies
L770[04:41:29] <Kodos> But can you drop
primed TNT
L771[04:41:41] <Izaya> ... what
L772[04:42:10] <Kodos> idk, it's nearly 5
AM
L773[04:43:09] <SF-Toaster> I'll start up
my modpack again
L774[04:43:14] <SF-Toaster> I wanna test
the adapter stuff anyways
L775[04:43:25] <SF-Toaster> and I'll take
a better look at the stack trace if it crashes this time
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L778[04:44:07] <Kodos> Hm, looks like the
Digital Miner's methods aren't implemented correctly, so it's on
Meka's side
L779[04:44:16] <SF-Toaster> oops
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L781[04:47:42] <SF-Toaster> nice
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L783[04:47:44] <SF-Toaster> it
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L785[04:49:38] <SF-Laptop> this is from
waila
L786[04:49:39] <SF-Laptop> cool
L787[04:49:40] <SF-Laptop> I guess
L788[04:49:50] <SF-Laptop> bleh
L789[04:49:54] <SF-Laptop> I'm going to
make some food
L790[04:50:00] <SF-Laptop> then try to
hack on something
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L792[04:55:53] <Izaya> Vexatos, I don't
care if IE adds some OP stuff, these conveyor belts and windmills
are freaking cool
L793[04:56:31] <Kodos> I love the
conveyors, I just wish they looked nicer when in certain
configurations
L794[04:56:37] <Vexatos> Assembly Line had
more pretty conveyor belts :P
L795[04:56:43] <Kodos> Yes, yes they
did
L796[04:56:52] <Vexatos> it was an amazing
mod
L797[04:57:02] <Kodos> I miss it, and
Fluid Dynamics' tanks
L798[04:57:03] <Temia> IE is OP? o.o
L799[04:57:07] <Temia> When was
that?
L800[04:57:14] <Kodos> Or was it Fluid
Mechanics
L801[04:57:17] <Temia> Anyway yes IE
windmills are cute.
L802[04:57:25] <Temia> And the power lines
are ingenious.
L803[04:58:31] <Temia> Albeit HV lines are
troublesome in that at ranges where their chunk-independent node
caching is made irrelevant by lossy transmission.
L804[04:59:14] <Kodos> Good thing the loss
is configurable
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L807[05:00:03] <Wobbo> o/
L808[05:00:46] <Temia> True.
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L811[05:07:16] *
Izaya just had an amazing idea
L812[05:07:31] <Skye|Underground> I'm
scared
L813[05:07:39] <Izaya> so I'm doing a
server build
L814[05:07:42] <Izaya> and it has an
i5
L815[05:07:47] <Izaya> said i5 has
VT-d
L816[05:07:56] <Izaya> my mum's computer
is somewhat dying
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L818[05:08:06] <Izaya> solution: give my
mum a VM with GPU passthrough
L819[05:08:13] <Kodos> VT-d? You should
take it to a doctor to get that looked at.
L821[05:11:29] <Kodos> Okay, got part of
the mekanism stuff working
L822[05:11:39] <Kodos> Just gotta figure
out how the ore filtering works now
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L824[05:12:09] <Wobbo> Ore filtering?
How?
L825[05:12:12] <Temia> ...five 1TB disks?
Are you doing software RAID 5 or something?
L826[05:12:22] <Kodos> Wobbo, new mekanism
stuff
L827[05:12:25] <SF-Toaster> uh
L828[05:12:26] <Skye|Underground> Izaya,
well... Is your mum the kind of person who unplugs computers?
L829[05:12:36] <SF-Toaster> 5 1T
disks?
L830[05:12:41] <SF-Toaster> that's...
excessive
L831[05:12:45] <Wobbo> Kodos: Ah
L832[05:12:54] <dangranos> maybe for
RAID?
L833[05:13:07] <Temia> I just said
that.
L834[05:13:25] <SF-Toaster> even if you
ran it RAID 5
L835[05:13:30] <SF-Toaster> That's
4TB
L836[05:13:43] <Temia> You know what's
funny, Toaster?
L837[05:13:44] <SF-Toaster> I don't think
I've ever stored that much in every storage unit I've ever owned
ever
L838[05:13:56] <SF-Toaster> I just
L839[05:13:58] <SF-Toaster> it's
huge
L840[05:14:06] <Temia> My mom has
outstripped that amount of storage with digital scrapbooking
material.
L841[05:14:07] <SF-Toaster> Temia: ?
L842[05:14:21] <SF-Toaster> oh my
L843[05:14:30] <Temia> She has so many
cheap, poorly-cooled externals plugged into her computer it's not
even funny
L844[05:15:05] <Izaya> Skye|Underground,
well, considering she's left my two servers alone
L845[05:15:19] <Izaya> Temia, yeah, mdadm
RAID5
L846[05:15:50] <Temia> And I get to go
over with a laptop, testdisk and my own external whenever one
starts failing
L847[05:15:53] <Izaya> my mum wanted 4TB,
she's funding it, who am I to argue?
L848[05:16:14] <Temia> Whatever
works.
L849[05:16:17] <SF-Toaster> I have ~500GB
storage on my server
L850[05:16:24] <reinei> Izaya: your Izaya
so argue away!
L851[05:16:24] <SF-Toaster> Must have a
cluster of 100G drives
L852[05:16:27] <SF-Toaster> I don't
remember
L853[05:16:31] <Temia> Hoperully you won't
bottleneck somewhere.
L854[05:16:35] <SF-Toaster> It's RAID 5
though
L855[05:16:37] <SF-Toaster> I think
L856[05:16:39] <Temia> No no, Izaya
doesn't argue
L857[05:16:45] <Temia> He trolls
L858[05:16:46] <SF-Toaster> RAID5 is
striped parity, right?
L859[05:16:50] <Izaya> reinei, hey, I want
4TB as well
L860[05:16:53] <Temia> Correct.
L861[05:16:58] <SF-Toaster> then
yeah
L862[05:17:00] <Izaya> My anime wouldn't
take 1/8 of that even
L863[05:17:00] <SF-Toaster> It's in
5
L864[05:17:12] <Izaya> Current storage
server has 320 usable GB
L865[05:17:31] *
Temia 's anime consists of... uh... Nichijou and Space Pirates. She
doesn't actually watch much anime >.>
L866[05:17:53] <Temia> I'd be hard-pressed
to even fill 500GBs of space.
L867[05:18:11] <SF-Toaster> I have 400ish
on my /home
L868[05:18:21] <SF-Toaster> I'm using most
of it only because of old packups
L869[05:18:48] <SF-Toaster> they take up
like...
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L871[05:18:50] <SF-Toaster> 300ish?
L872[05:19:03] <SF-Toaster> yeah
L873[05:19:30] <Wobbo> I have 2 TB at
home, 1 TB for backups and 1TB for DATA, don't know how much I
use
L874[05:19:55] <Izaya> I have a 500GB
linux drive, an almost full 320GB anime drive and a newly-installed
250GB for Windows
L875[05:19:56] *
Temia violated the FHS and defined /media as her large data
storage. Everything else is on an old 120GB SSD from her
dad.
L876[05:20:11] <Skye|Underground> #p
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L878[05:20:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
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L880[05:21:27] <SF-Toaster> I don't have a
lot of large storage oddly enough
L881[05:21:31] <SF-Toaster> My laptop has
500G
L882[05:21:38] <SF-Toaster> My desktop has
like
L883[05:21:45] <SF-Toaster> 170?
L884[05:22:12] <SF-Toaster> that was
actually a pretty close guestimate
L885[05:22:28] <SF-Toaster> (But to be
fair, desktop is scavenged parts)
L886[05:22:45] <Temia> Amusingly, he later
sent me a brand-spankin'-new gaming laptop with a striped pair of
500GB SSDs.
L887[05:22:54] <SF-Toaster> There's a 500G
drive I know where is, but requires...
L888[05:22:59] <SF-Toaster> destructive
means to actually get to
L889[05:23:02] <Temia> also yay
frankencomputers <3
L890[05:23:12] <Temia> The best kind of
build!
L891[05:23:19] <SF-Toaster> Temia: I have
owned exactly two computers brand new
L892[05:23:23] <SF-Toaster> This
laptop
L893[05:23:25] <SF-Toaster> and the last
one
L894[05:23:29] <Temia> I've owned...
one.
L895[05:23:35] <Temia> The gaming
laptop.
L896[05:23:37] <Temia> o.o
L897[05:23:40] <Temia> Nothing else.
L898[05:23:49] <SF-Toaster> every other
computer - desktop, old laptops, my server - second hand, at
least
L899[05:24:02] <Temia> Yeah
L900[05:24:08] <Temia> I know the feeling
there.
L901[05:24:12] <SF-Toaster> best part of
*that* is
L902[05:24:17] <SF-Toaster> My dad often
gives me parts
L903[05:24:20] <SF-Toaster> from his
work
L904[05:24:24] <Temia> Same here!
L905[05:24:28] <SF-Toaster> *THEY* buy
parts second hand
L906[05:24:41] <Temia> Albeit I've got
quite some distance from him so it isn't as often
L907[05:24:54] <Temia> But yeah, my
workstation's, like...
L908[05:24:58] <SF-Toaster> I haven't
gotten any thing in a while
L909[05:25:03] <SF-Toaster> I am so damn
sad
L910[05:25:13] <SF-Toaster> I scored a
monitor that was 'partially broken'
L911[05:25:20] <SF-Toaster> it didn't do
powersaving or something right
L912[05:25:20] <Temia> An AM3 Phenom II in
an AM2+ board in a 2001 Supermicro fulltower case >.>
L913[05:25:23] <SF-Toaster> so I'm
like
L914[05:25:28] <SF-Toaster> "dad! I
want that!"
L915[05:25:35] <SF-Toaster> so it becomes
mine
L916[05:25:40] <Temia> Nice.
L917[05:25:41] <SF-Toaster> I use the damn
thing a handful of times
L918[05:25:45] <SF-Toaster> and it
fried
L919[05:25:48] <SF-Toaster> D:
L920[05:25:49] <Temia> Haha
L921[05:25:53] <Temia> Yeah.
L922[05:26:01] <SF-Toaster> granted, it
was broken to begin with, which is how I got it
L923[05:26:06] <SF-Toaster> but I used it
< 5 times total
L924[05:26:12] <SF-Toaster> and only had
it.. a month?
L925[05:26:15] <Temia> Mine's mostly
decommissioned business-grade stuff from my dad.
L926[05:26:22] <Temia> Good shit. Lasts
ages.
L927[05:26:46] <SF-Toaster> this computer
(my affore mentioned desktop)
L928[05:26:46] <SF-Toaster> has
L929[05:26:52] <SF-Toaster> an AMD
Athlon64
L930[05:27:02] <SF-Toaster> 2.5G ram
L931[05:27:12] <SF-Toaster> ~170G of
storage
L932[05:27:18] <SF-Toaster> And an
nVidia...
L933[05:27:19] <SF-Toaster> uh
L934[05:27:22] <Temia> What socket?
L935[05:27:27] <dangranos> Sangar,
heh
L936[05:27:29] <SF-Toaster> GeForce
210
L937[05:27:37] <SF-Toaster> no idea
tbh
L938[05:27:42] <Sangar> :P
L939[05:27:43] <Temia> ah .-.
L940[05:27:47] <Temia> Combo unit
then?
L941[05:27:48] <SF-Toaster> unless it was
something I could figure out by poking /proc or /sys
L942[05:28:10] <Wobbo> Hello Sangar
L943[05:28:10] <Temia> Not directly, I
don't think?
L944[05:28:13] <SF-Toaster> Combo
unit?
L945[05:28:15] <Sangar> ohey wobbo
:)
L946[05:28:17] <Sangar> long time no
see
L947[05:28:22] <Temia> As in the proc and
mobo together
L948[05:28:29] <Wobbo> Yeah, a few months.
How are you?
L949[05:28:29] <SF-Toaster> oh no
L950[05:28:37] <SF-Toaster> It does have a
removable processor
L951[05:28:45] <SF-Toaster> (I managed to
accidentally bend some pins)
L952[05:28:46] <Temia> I mean did you get
them as one
L953[05:28:56] <SF-Toaster> oh, yes
L954[05:28:56] <Temia> But ah
>.>
L955[05:28:59] <SF-Toaster> I rescued him
that way
L956[05:29:06] <SF-Toaster> I managed to
straighten them out
L957[05:29:10] <SF-Toaster> still works
fine
L958[05:29:15] <Temia> \o/
L959[05:29:20] <Sangar> Wobbo, fine,
thanks :) busy though, finally got a job :3
L960[05:29:23] <Sangar> yourself?
L961[05:29:31] <SF-Toaster> I believe,
sans memory, that Toaster is in his original hardware
configuration
L962[05:29:46] <SF-Toaster> I lied
L963[05:29:50] <SF-Toaster> I have to
replace the optical
L964[05:29:52] <Wobbo> Sangar: I was busy
with bachelor thesis, but now I have vacation :D Congratulations on
getting a job!
L965[05:30:02] <Temia> Careful with that
later on though. Bad bends can lead to electrically dodgy
connection properties
L966[05:30:11] <SF-Toaster> aaand I have
the drives from the last desktop
L967[05:30:28] <Temia> I've seen procs
with bent pins that later scorched.
L968[05:30:46] <SF-Toaster> how long after
the fact?
L969[05:30:55] <SF-Toaster> I straightened
them out months ago
L970[05:31:12] <Temia> Well, in your case
you're probably fine.
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L972[05:31:30] <SF-Toaster> I figured that
if it booted up
L973[05:31:33] <SF-Toaster> it was
fine
L974[05:31:35] <Temia> This was like a
socket 478, so it was a power-hungry P4 with dinky-ass pins to
boot.
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L976[05:31:44] <SF-Toaster> hasn't given
me any issues whatsoever CPU wise
L977[05:31:47] <Temia> And it took a
couple months I think.
L978[05:31:59] <Sangar> Wobbo, heh,
thanks. congratulations on getting the thesis done ;)
L979[05:32:27] <Wobbo> Thanks :)
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L981[05:33:56] <SF-Toaster> did my first
Debian install on this machine
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L983[05:34:22] <SF-Toaster> It's a little
weird, coming from a more redhat-centric background, but it's still
nice
L984[05:34:48] <SF-Toaster> ended up
putting Debian on my server too
L985[05:35:00] <SF-Toaster> although that
was more because I was getting tired of CentOS 6
L986[05:35:58] <SF-Toaster> CentOS 7
wouldn't work :(
L987[05:36:03] *
Temia tried Debian, but went with Arch in the end. Hardly
professional, but she's a tinkerer anyway.
L988[05:36:22] <SF-Toaster> I haven't ever
done Arch
L989[05:36:34] <SF-Toaster> Before he was
a Debian machine, Toaster was a Gentoo machine
L990[05:37:02] <SF-Toaster> It was fun to
hand-tune everything
L991[05:37:13] <SF-Toaster> but it
eventually became more effort than it was worth
L992[05:37:23] <SF-Toaster> Hence trying
out Debian
L993[05:37:37] <Temia> Arch kind of meets
halfway.
L994[05:37:59] <SF-Toaster> yeah
L995[05:38:01] <Temia> Rolling release
system, starts minimalistic.
L996[05:38:14] <SF-Toaster> I'm fairly
familiar with Arch and how it rolls
L997[05:38:19] <SF-Toaster> just never
actually did it
L998[05:38:20] <Temia> Ah
L999[05:40:35] ***
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L1000[05:40:59] <SF-Toaster> I gotta say
this though about Arch
L1001[05:41:07] <SF-Toaster> Arch Wiki is
/amazing/
L1002[05:41:19] <Temia> Yeah.
L1003[05:41:25] <SF-Toaster> It's still a
super useful resource even if you aren't using Arch
L1004[05:41:46] <SF-Toaster> like I
said
L1005[05:42:10] <SF-Toaster> I've never
gone to Arch wiki for Arch help. It ends up helping regardless of
what I'm using.
L1006[05:42:10] <Wobbo> Love the Arch
Wiki
L1007[05:42:29] <Wobbo> It has
everything.
L1008[05:42:43] <Wobbo> And I don't even
run Linux most of the time :P
L1009[05:42:44] <SF-Toaster> pretty
much
L1010[05:42:47] <SF-Toaster> haha
L1011[05:43:23] <SF-Toaster> I've been
running Linux full-time for the last 2 or 3 years
L1012[05:43:33] <SF-Toaster> easily one
of the best decisions I've ever made
L1013[05:44:40] <SF-Toaster> despite my
initial interactions with computers being through Windows
L1014[05:44:54] <SF-Toaster> Unix
machines feel much more natural and at-home for me
L1015[05:45:12] <Izaya> Unix and
Unix-likes make sense.
L1016[05:45:19] <Wobbo> I ditched Widows
in favor of OS X and use Linux at uni and for robotics, I still
prefer OS X
L1017[05:45:45] <SF-Toaster> I don't like
Apple tbh
L1018[05:45:59] <SF-Toaster> My one good
thing about OSX is that it is a Unix
L1019[05:46:23] <SF-Toaster> but let's
not turn this into a flamewar :)
L1020[05:46:41] <Izaya> Apple stuff is
better for interactive multimedia work than Linux.
L1021[05:46:57] <Izaya> Though if you can
use ffmpeg you can get a lot done in a short time on Linux
L1022[05:47:24] <SF-Toaster> "Apple
stuff is better for interactive multimedia work than Linux."
... /at the moment/
L1023[05:47:24] <Wobbo> I love OS X's
distinction between GUI land and Terminal land, it makes it cleaner
than Linux in my opinion. But I also don't feel like starting a
flame war
L1024[05:47:32] <SF-Toaster> We'll get
there :)
L1025[05:47:52] <Izaya> SF-Toaster, well,
we all know that one day there will only be open-source
UNIX-like
L1026[05:47:57] <Izaya> s
L1027[05:48:07] <SF-Toaster> I hope it
comes within 20 years
L1028[05:48:09] <SF-Toaster> that would
be nice
L1029[05:48:13] <Izaya> one day...
L1030[05:48:48] <SF-Toaster> reminds me
of a fiction book I got the idea for not too long ago
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L1032[05:49:03] <SF-Toaster>
roughly
L1033[05:49:56] <SF-Toaster>
"programmer from the future gets sent back to late 1960s,
during the development of Unix, and helps ensure Unix takes on it's
familiar traits"
L1034[05:50:15] <SF-Toaster> doing this
prevents The Terrible Future blah blah blah
L1035[05:50:15] <Izaya> that... sounds
like an awesome book
L1036[05:50:20] <SF-Toaster> oh
thanks!
L1037[05:50:20] <Izaya> I would read
that
L1038[05:50:22] <SF-Toaster> :D
L1039[05:50:33] <Izaya> if I had money
I'd probably buy it, provided it was good
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L1041[05:50:44] <Izaya> if I didn't, I'd
pirate the ebook
L1042[05:51:00] <SF-Toaster> Part of it
would be our programmer hero initially disdaining Unix style
L1043[05:51:07] <SF-Toaster> but coming
to realize that Unix style is best style
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L1045[05:51:37] <SF-Toaster> maybe with a
segment of how The Terrible Future would be without Unix and
FOSS
L1046[05:51:54] <Izaya> at the
start
L1047[05:52:08] <Izaya> have him
developing web apps on a future Windows 10 box
L1048[05:52:09] <SF-Toaster> yeah, I'm
kinda leaning toward that
L1049[05:52:15] <SF-Toaster> pretty much
haha
L1050[05:52:23] <Izaya> and how it was
recently upgraded so the OS wasn't lagging on him
L1051[05:52:41] <SF-Toaster> something
I'm having trouble deciding
L1052[05:52:55] <SF-Toaster> is if our
hero intentionally time travels in search of a better hope
L1053[05:53:12] <SF-Toaster> or it
happens 'on accident'/'out of his control'/etc
L1054[05:53:30] <Izaya> he is sent by a
wizard.
L1055[05:53:32] <Izaya> 11/10
L1056[05:53:37] <SF-Toaster> haha
L1057[05:53:48] <SF-Toaster> I got
it
L1058[05:53:51] <Izaya> the wizard
divides by zero and opens a rift in the space-time continuum
L1059[05:53:57] <SF-Toaster> ooh
L1060[05:54:01] <SF-Toaster> I like that
too
L1061[05:54:26] <SF-Toaster> Said wizard
would be an old-school Unix hacker from the small remaining
underground group of hackers
L1062[05:54:30] <SF-Toaster>
ofcourse
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L1064[05:55:04] <Izaya> the people
running the internet infrastructure
L1065[05:55:14] <Izaya> we all know NT
couldn't handle the sort of stuff the backbone does
L1066[05:55:30] <Izaya> NT is Not Tough
enough
L1067[05:55:31] <SF-Toaster> NT can
barely handle doing anything networking period :P
L1068[05:55:35] <SF-Toaster> iirc
L1069[05:55:43] <Izaya> NT as in the
kernel
L1070[05:55:46] <SF-Toaster> NT's TCP/IP
code is that from a BSD
L1071[05:56:05] <Izaya> And as far as NT
4 goes, it beats the shit out of DOS-based Windows netcode
L1072[05:56:11] <SF-Toaster> I don't
remeber for sure though
L1073[05:56:28] <SF-Toaster> well,
sure
L1074[05:56:29] <Izaya> Doesn't
everything use BSD TCP/IP stuff?
L1075[05:56:35] <SF-Toaster> I don't
think so
L1076[05:56:52] <SF-Toaster> I'm /pretty/
sure Linux has it's own implementation of the stack
L1077[05:57:13] <Izaya> I'm fairly sure
that modern Unixes have a TCP/IP stack at least partially based on
the BSD stack
L1078[05:58:00] <Izaya> Maybe excluding
Solaris, because sysv
L1079[06:01:15] <PotatoTrumpet> Izaya,
how's that one modem somewhere in the united states at all of
Australia relies on doing?
L1080[06:02:07] <Izaya> the government
says we're hitting the upper limit of 56k modems
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L1082[06:03:42] <SF-Toaster> I think
Linux has it's own stack because the kernel is GPL
L1083[06:03:58] <SF-Toaster> And the BSDs
are... well, BSD/MIT licensed
L1084[06:04:11] <SF-Toaster> And you
can't just GPL BSD'd code
L1085[06:04:23] *
Izaya prefers BSD to GPL licenses
L1086[06:04:56] <SF-Toaster> I'm a GPL
fan myself
L1087[06:05:09] <SF-Toaster> keeps other
people from doing assholish things with your code
L1088[06:05:19] <SF-Toaster> but
whatevr
L1089[06:05:22] <SF-Toaster> to each his
own
L1090[06:06:27] <Izaya> GPL is for
freedom of user and of code
L1091[06:06:32] <Izaya> BSD is freedom of
developer
L1092[06:06:41] <Izaya> different
aims
L1093[06:06:47] <SF-Toaster> accurate
summary
L1094[06:06:51] <Vexatos> GPL is
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil D:
L1095[06:06:57] <SF-Toaster> is
nawt
L1096[06:07:08] <Vexatos> LGPL is good
though
L1097[06:07:11] <Wobbo> GPL is so Richard
Stallman can get mad at companies.
L1098[06:07:16] <Izaya> There are far
worse things than GPL
L1099[06:07:33] <Vexatos> Doesn't make
GPL good :P
L1100[06:07:42] <Wobbo> True. But it is
still a restrictive license for developers
L1101[06:12:26] <SF-Toaster>
anyrate
L1102[06:12:42] <SF-Toaster> I'm thinking
about writing a compositor for my OC OS
L1103[06:13:02] <SF-Toaster> And build
into the OS basic multiplexing capabilities
L1104[06:13:04] <SF-Toaster> ala
tmux
L1105[06:14:10] <Wobbo> Nice
L1106[06:14:31] <SF-Toaster> one of the
things I'm torn about
L1107[06:14:52] <SF-Toaster> is whether
or not to allow direct component access in the case of potentially
shared things like GPUs
L1108[06:15:00] <Izaya> abuse plan9k into
doing it
L1109[06:15:15] <SF-Toaster> into doing
what?
L1110[06:15:33] <Izaya> it has
multitasking and piping, so multiplexing should be easier
L1111[06:16:03] <SF-Toaster> ah
L1112[06:16:10] <Kubuxu> Direct GPU
access in plan9k is no no.
L1113[06:16:11] <SF-Toaster> see, I want
the fun of having to write the OS myself :D
L1114[06:16:22] <SF-Toaster> Kubuxu:
that's what I figured
L1115[06:16:30] <Kubuxu> You should use
vt100 codes to operate on screen.
L1116[06:16:45] <Kubuxu> This way you can
just netcat tty and it just works.
L1117[06:17:19] <SF-Toaster> I'm utterly
unfamiliar with VT100 escape codes
L1118[06:17:22] <SF-Toaster> I'd rather
not
L1119[06:17:28] <Kubuxu> There is helper
for that.
L1120[06:17:38] <SF-Toaster> there
probably is
L1121[06:17:39] <SF-Toaster>
besides
L1122[06:17:42] <Kubuxu> You just do
something like term.clearTerm()
L1123[06:17:46] <Izaya> I want to strip
the scheduler out of plan9k and stick it into amie
L1124[06:17:58] <SF-Toaster> why would I
want to cat a tty anyways?
L1125[06:18:00] <Kubuxu> Izaya: I
wouldn't now, there is a bug in it.
L1126[06:18:07] <Kubuxu> SF-Toaster:
remote terminal.
L1127[06:18:09] <SF-Toaster> and by tty,
I mean a real-deal tty
L1128[06:18:20] <SF-Toaster> I figured
but... why?
L1129[06:18:23] <SF-Toaster> I just
L1130[06:18:25] <SF-Toaster> it makes no
sense
L1131[06:18:28] <Izaya> for kicks, of
course
L1132[06:18:36] <SF-Toaster> if this were
a real OS, sure
L1133[06:19:23] <SF-Toaster> I'd rather
take my opportunity to be incompatible with no fear of having it be
useless
L1134[06:19:35] <Kubuxu> I wanted to say
pty, sorry'
L1135[06:19:43] <SF-Toaster> which
reminds me, I still have to finish my RPi OS
L1136[06:19:56] <SF-Toaster> I'm honestly
thinking about not
L1137[06:20:06] <Izaya> yeah, rolling
your own everything is a special form of fun
L1139[06:20:33] <SF-Toaster> see, I think
rolling out my own code for a toy OS would be great fun
L1140[06:20:58] <SF-Toaster> But not when
I have to implement (complicated) USB so I can have basics like a
keyboard
L1141[06:21:16] *
Izaya is writing a custom OC OS from the ground up for embedded
purposes
L1142[06:21:31] <SF-Toaster> The RPi
Foundation did not choose hardware with bare-metal in mind
L1143[06:21:42] <SF-Toaster> Izaya: I'm
intending mine to be a user's OS
L1144[06:21:48] <Wobbo> Izaya: for MCU's?
or computers in machines?
L1145[06:21:59] <Kubuxu> SF-Toaster: we
got stuck on that also. We were rolling LuPi RPi Lua OS. We gave
up, used minimalistic kernel instead.
L1146[06:22:28] <SF-Toaster> Kubuxu:
that's the end goal of my OS too
L1147[06:22:34] <Izaya> Wobbo, I've got a
script that packages it into a single string
L1148[06:22:51] <Izaya> as such, you can
run it from a microcontroller with simple netboot ability
L1149[06:22:51] <SF-Toaster> My OC OS is
supposed to be a general purpose Unixy OS
L1150[06:22:54] <Kubuxu> SF-Toaster: we
got push usb mode workig but not poll mode.
L1151[06:22:58] <Wobbo> Izaya: a single
string?
L1152[06:23:00] <SF-Toaster> ah
L1153[06:23:01] <Wobbo> Izaya: nice
L1154[06:23:03] <Kubuxu> And keyboards
are 50/50.
L1155[06:23:10] <Izaya> Wobbo, kernel and
device drivers, plus a simple shell
L1156[06:23:27] <SF-Toaster> I've been
trying to read the std and the datasheet for the RPi's
controller
L1157[06:23:28] <SF-Toaster> but
L1158[06:23:30] <SF-Toaster> bleh
L1159[06:23:34] <SF-Toaster> it's awful
hard :P
L1160[06:23:42] <Kubuxu> There is a
challange to fix Magic's network code into a OC's uC.
L1161[06:24:11] <Kubuxu> s/fix/fit
L1162[06:24:11] <Kibibyte> <Kubuxu>
There is a challange to fit Magic's network code into a OC's
uC.
L1163[06:24:17] <Izaya> bah, I need to
write my netcode for my OS
L1164[06:24:26] <Izaya> and I need to
write plan9k/OpenOS drivers for it too
L1165[06:24:48] <Kubuxu> We might be
writting new network code with 5.3 awesomeness.
L1166[06:25:13] <Kubuxu> Magik was
trilled when I showed him string.pack/string.unpack
L1167[06:25:20] <SF-Toaster> I want my OS
to be multiuser multitasking
L1168[06:25:35] <Kubuxu> It is
plan9k.
L1169[06:25:41] <SF-Toaster> In such a
way as to mimic the way you originally used a Unix machine
L1170[06:25:57] <Kubuxu> You can hookup
upto 5 screens to it.
L1171[06:26:05] <SF-Toaster> Where a
group of people shared a machine
L1172[06:26:19] <SF-Toaster> I'm honestly
a little disappointed that OpenOS does not allow for that
L1173[06:26:36] <SF-Toaster> It would be
great for multiplayer
L1174[06:27:04] <SF-Toaster> where
everyone chipped in and you end up with powerful hardware that a
group can share
L1175[06:27:27] <Izaya> plan9k singleuser
is pretty nice
L1176[06:27:34] <Izaya> just needs ptys
you can switch between IMO
L1177[06:27:54] <Kubuxu> SF-Toaster:
really, try out plan9k as it is just it. It's 9k LoC and a lot of
thought put into it.
L1178[06:28:13] <SF-Toaster> I'm not
saying plan9k is bad or anything
L1179[06:28:25] <SF-Toaster> (and no, I
haven't used it)
L1180[06:28:29] <Kubuxu> SF-Toaster: I am
just saying that you rather won't roll it.
L1181[06:28:40] <SF-Toaster> if you say
so
L1182[06:28:46] <SF-Toaster> I'll give it
a shot next time I play
L1183[06:28:48] <SF-Toaster>
hopefully
L1184[06:29:26] <Kubuxu> It's magick's
5th lua system. 2nd in OC. I watched him learn over 3 years doing
them.
L1185[06:30:06] <SF-Toaster> cool
L1186[06:31:15] <SF-Toaster> I think I'm
going to go somewhere comfy and read for a bit
L1187[06:31:17] <SF-Toaster> laters
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L1190[06:32:14] <Kubuxu> Now to implement
binary search in lua's files.
L1191[06:33:27] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: search as
in: return positions where string occurs?
L1192[06:34:13] <Kubuxu> No, I have
binary data sorted and I have to insert more data so it is still
sorted.
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L1194[06:35:17] <Kubuxu> I have file of
fixed size eitries: hash -> value
L1195[06:35:25] <Kubuxu> which are sorted
by hash.
L1196[06:36:01] <Kubuxu> I would have
used string.match if it wasn't pure lua reimpl.
L1197[06:37:10] <Kubuxu> Meh, let's write
-- TODO impl binary search, and for now just iterate it.
L1198[06:37:18] <Wobbo> Can't you use
legical ordering? "aa" < "bb" ?
L1199[06:37:54] <Kubuxu> It's binary data
so I don't know how it would behave.
L1200[06:38:03] <Wobbo> I guess using
ascii
L1201[06:38:19] <Izaya> so you're doing
byte ordering?
L1202[06:38:46] <Wobbo> #lua
"f" < "é"
L1203[06:38:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
true
L1204[06:38:51] <Kubuxu> Yup. I have
16byte hash by which I have to make a lookup.
L1205[06:39:07] <Kubuxu> #lua
"\0" < "\1"
L1206[06:39:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
true
L1207[06:39:13] <Kubuxu> #lua
"\1" < "\0"
L1208[06:39:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
false
L1209[06:39:17] <Vexatos> Holy shite the
advanced cipher block is good now
L1210[06:39:18] <Vexatos> like
L1211[06:39:21] <Vexatos> holy
catfish
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L1213[06:41:08] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: we did
Starkoin on EC as it allows us to make connectionless protocol. OC
network needs upgrades.
L1214[06:41:23] <Vexatos> It really
does
L1215[06:41:33] <Kubuxu> For sure it
needs routers/uC that can fit routing table and network code.
L1216[06:41:38] <Vexatos> yup yup
L1217[06:41:57] <Vexatos> It's called
Starkoin now? :P
L1218[06:42:21] <Kubuxu> Yup, its total
rewrite of Magikoin.
L1220[06:43:00] <Vexatos> let's read
that
L1221[06:43:16] <Vexatos> I've had a few
concerns about the calculation of balance, maybe that's been
fixed
L1222[06:43:39] <Izaya> generator try
v7
L1223[06:43:52] *
Izaya is fine-tuning his ATG and ruins mod configs
L1224[06:44:48] <Izaya> Kubuxu, why not
have a server with boot code?
L1225[06:45:40] <Kubuxu> Izaya: its not
stupid idea. We might think about that.
L1226[06:45:46] <Vexatos> "Kuba
Sztandera" heh
L1227[06:45:56] <Izaya> 'Anonymous
Llama'
L1228[06:46:13] <Vexatos> I have
"Anonymous Narwhal"
L1229[06:46:35] <Vexatos> "Bank
server caches account balances on startup"
L1230[06:46:37] <Vexatos> there we
go
L1231[06:46:44] <Vexatos> that's the fix
:P
L1232[06:47:11] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, are you
using Selene for it?
L1233[06:47:45] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: nope as
it currently crashes with plan9k rc services.
L1234[06:47:53] <Vexatos> it does?
L1235[06:47:59] <Vexatos> Why did noone
tell me D:
L1236[06:48:05] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: my
github is also bound to Kuba Sztandera or Jakub.
L1237[06:48:18] <Vexatos> I have a plan9k
wrapper for Selene, of course I want to make it work
L1238[06:48:25] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: try
downloading entity and doing `rc entity enable`
L1239[06:48:41] <Vexatos> entity? On
mpt?
L1240[06:48:50] <Kubuxu> Reboot and it
looks like selene is not loaded yet. I think it is Magic's
fault.
L1241[06:48:54] <Kubuxu> Vexatos:
yup.
L1242[06:49:00] <Vexatos> what's rc doing
again?
L1243[06:49:02] <Kubuxu> in starchasers
repo.
L1244[06:49:07] <Kubuxu> Its
autostart.
L1245[06:49:18] <Kubuxu> /services.
L1247[06:49:35] <Vexatos> this is the
plan9k wrapper for Selene I have made
L1248[06:49:43] <Vexatos> it boots itself
without rc
L1249[06:49:57] <Vexatos> it instead uses
the modules system, so could it be that Entity loads before selene
does?
L1250[06:50:11] <Vexatos> or that it uses
a different _G
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L1252[06:50:53] <Kubuxu> Yeah, but in
therory rc runs at 20 and we were checking globals and they should
be ok.
L1253[06:51:00] <Kubuxu> We added it to
our todo list.
L1254[06:51:09] <Kubuxu> entity on mpt
got one.
L1255[06:51:11] <Vexatos> Wait
L1256[06:51:21] <Vexatos> it probably is
because selene-plan9k only loads selene into userspace
L1257[06:51:28] <Vexatos> and I doubt
rc/entity is using userspace
L1258[06:51:47] <Kubuxu> rc's loader runs
programs in userspace.
L1259[06:51:51] <Kubuxu> so it
should.
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L1261[06:51:54] <Vexatos> well that's
really weird then
L1262[06:52:11] <Vexatos>
http://git.io/vLruA as you can see, adds everything
to userspace and it worked just fine when I was testing :/
L1263[06:52:15] <Wobbo> Vexatos: why not
use rc?
L1264[06:52:17] <Kubuxu> and it was
working before, I think magik just screwed something and now he
can't find it.
L1265[06:52:26] <Vexatos> Wobbo, Magik
told me to use the modules system
L1266[06:52:29] <Vexatos> I didn't even
know about rc
L1267[06:52:42] <Wobbo> Ah
L1268[06:52:44] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: if you
use rc then you can't modify base env for all programs.
L1269[06:52:59] <Vexatos> Well, I am just
modifying userspace
L1270[06:53:11] <Vexatos> not sure how
good rc is at that
L1271[06:53:19] <Kubuxu> You wouldn't be
able to do that from rc.
L1272[06:53:22] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: but why
would you do that if not in boot?
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L1274[06:53:43] <Vexatos> loading stuff
only into userspace has a HUGE advantage though: Stuff not being
loaded in userspace load without having to go through Selene's
parser
L1275[06:53:48] <Vexatos> so they start a
little faster
L1276[06:54:04] <Vexatos> meaning all the
core libs in plan9k and everything outside userspace still loads
fast :)
L1277[06:54:25] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: rc is
only for programs that are managed as: sshd, entity,
starkoin-server.
L1278[06:54:41] <Vexatos> Still cool that
you got entity to work on plan9k
L1279[06:54:44] <Vexatos> I think that's
neat
L1280[06:55:17] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: I think
that issue might be that magik sends init signal on kernel rail too
late.
L1281[06:55:23] <Kubuxu> I will check
that.
L1282[06:55:26] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: I know
that, but why mod the base env from somewhere else than
/boot?
L1283[06:55:28] <Vexatos> it might
L1284[06:55:50] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: plan9k it
big.
L1285[06:56:03] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, if you
need it to load at that specific point for any reason, maybe add a
new signal "pre_init" or whatever
L1286[06:56:04] <Kubuxu> boot just loads
modules.
L1287[06:56:16] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: more than
100 boot files big? :P
L1288[06:56:23] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: I must
talk about this with magik.
L1289[06:56:26] <Vexatos> Ok
L1290[06:56:33] <Vexatos> Wobbo,
potentially yes
L1291[06:56:46] <Vexatos> plan9k is a
full-blown Unix distro, or at least going to be :P
L1292[06:56:55] <Kubuxu> about 30-40
modules already and they can be added by user with package
manager.
L1293[06:57:04] <Vexatos> Like
Selene
L1294[06:57:13] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: like
there is tape driver that makes tapes show in /dev/tapeX
L1295[06:57:17] <Kubuxu> it is a
module.
L1296[06:57:19] <Vexatos> Selene is
currently the only package adding a module, I think :P
L1297[06:57:31] <Vexatos> but now that I
know how to it's really easy to do
L1298[06:57:36] <Vexatos> and I love the
event listening system
L1299[06:57:41] <Starhero-MC_> is it true
you should only have as many threads as you have
cores..right?
L1300[06:57:55] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: only
not that was done by us.
L1301[06:58:00] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: sounds
nice, remind me in a month and I might check it out :P
L1302[06:58:06] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, yea,
that's what I meant
L1303[06:58:31] <Kubuxu> but there are
some that are not in core distro but you can install them.
L1304[06:58:33] <Vexatos> Wobbo, plan9k
is really, really cool
L1305[06:58:41] <Vexatos> and awesome for
developers
L1306[06:58:59] <Wobbo> Vexatos: I will
be on vacation from tuesday to the 18th of August, so that is why I
can't check it out ;)
L1307[06:59:04] <Vexatos> Ah
L1308[06:59:27] <Kubuxu> Starhero-MC_:
depending where how and when
L1309[06:59:41] <Starhero-MC_> just...why
does mc have 40 threads?
L1310[07:00:10] <Starhero-MC_> greanted i
am modded..but what the actual fuck...i was taught proper
programing states you do as you
L1311[07:00:12] <Starhero-MC_> have
cores.
L1312[07:00:29] <Kubuxu> Starhero-MC_:
its completly different.
L1313[07:00:56] <Kubuxu> If you have hard
working threads then you should have them about #cores but in case
of MC most of it is just sleeping.
L1314[07:01:32] <Kubuxu> Yout PC probably
runs now about few hundreds of threads.
L1315[07:01:56] <Kubuxu> Rule of number
of threads applies when you want to max CPU with them not when you
do a normal work.
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L1317[07:02:32] <Vexatos> stuff like
multithreaded rendering/simulation programs for instance
L1318[07:04:06] <Vexatos> Magic sequence
("StarKoinByMagik6k&Kubuxu")
L1319[07:04:06] <Vexatos> :3
L1320[07:04:33] <Vexatos> Hmmm, Kubuxu:
Aren't tapes rather slow to read/write? or are they fast
enough
L1321[07:05:19] <Starhero-MC_> Somone
tell me why my ram is being completely used when I run mc as
2.5gigs and a server at 2gigs
L1322[07:05:20] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: they
are fast enough we have a hashfolder for fast lookup. Initial cost
of bringing it up is high but then it just works.
L1323[07:05:30] <Starhero-MC_> i have 8
gigs of ram
L1324[07:05:36] <Starhero-MC_> htop
telling me i am using ALL of it...
L1325[07:05:53] <Kubuxu> Starhero-MC_:
linux uses ram to cache files.
L1326[07:05:53] <Starhero-MC_> i should
be using no more then say 6
L1327[07:06:07] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, ah, so
you basically store the hashes on a real FS and access tape memory
by hash?
L1328[07:06:25] <Starhero-MC_> that isn't
what we are see, my friend states, he is sshed in my box and
watching this shit
L1329[07:06:48] <Kubuxu> I am storing
hashes -> location on tape on real fs.
L1330[07:07:01] <Vexatos> ah, yea
L1331[07:07:07] <Vexatos> so
hash->position, ok
L1332[07:07:24] <Kubuxu> It is recreated
on each boot each time so we are sure that it is correct,
L1333[07:07:32] <Kubuxu> It takes a while
but isn't bad.
L1334[07:08:00] <Vexatos> And how do you
seek to the position? do you tape.seek(-math.huge)
tape.seek(position) ?
L1335[07:08:19] <Kubuxu> Plan9k is
keeping a position for you.
L1336[07:08:28] <Kubuxu> As long as you
don't mess with tapedrive.
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L1338[07:08:37] <Kubuxu> s/\./
directly.
L1339[07:08:37] <Kibibyte> <Kubuxu>
As long as you don't mess with tapedrive directly.
L1340[07:08:39] <Vexatos> ah right
L1341[07:08:42] <Vexatos> you have a tape
FS
L1342[07:08:43] <Vexatos> in plan9k
L1343[07:08:53] <Kubuxu> Yup.
/dev/tapeX
L1344[07:08:56] <Vexatos>
/dev/tapen
L1345[07:08:57] <Vexatos> Yes
L1346[07:09:06] <Vexatos> Ok
L1347[07:09:13] <Vexatos> so it caches
the position, very nice
L1348[07:09:21] <Kubuxu> yup.
L1349[07:09:49] <Vexatos> How do you seek
the specific position then, wouldn't that be messing with
/dev/tape?
L1350[07:10:29] <Kubuxu> There will be
device locking in near future.
L1351[07:10:48] <Kubuxu> As long as you
are the only one with tape device open everything is ok.
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L1353[07:11:36] <Kubuxu> /dev/tapeX is
just a normal file from program side of view (just with constant
size).
L1354[07:11:42] <Magik6k> Izaya, you may
pull out whole pipes kernel and make custom userspace
L1355[07:12:16] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, so you
can io.open("/dev/tapeX")
L1356[07:12:20] <Vexatos> and then
file:seek etc.
L1357[07:12:23] <Magik6k> I should make
pipes-min package with core kernel only
L1358[07:12:26] <Kubuxu> yup.
L1359[07:12:26] <Vexatos> right?
L1360[07:12:28] <Vexatos> Ah
L1361[07:12:30] <Vexatos> that makes
sense
L1362[07:12:37] <Kubuxu> I do fs.open to
skip buffering of io.
L1363[07:12:56] <Izaya> so if I published
a cyber warfare wasteland server on the forums
L1364[07:12:59] <Izaya> think anyone
would play?
L1365[07:13:18] <Vexatos> so
file:seek("set", lookup(hash))
L1366[07:13:22] <Heph_> vexatos is bad
and should feel bad Kappa
L1367[07:13:30] <Vexatos> what have I
done now D:
L1368[07:13:45] <Kubuxu> Vexatos:
yup.
L1369[07:13:47] <Heph_> nothing :3
hi
L1370[07:13:53] <Vexatos> Heph_, I didn't
break it, I swear!
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L1372[07:13:58] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, thanks
for the info
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L1374[07:14:08] <Vexatos> Also, Hi, heph
:P
L1376[07:14:35] <Kubuxu> I am working on
hash folder now.
L1377[07:14:55] <Vexatos> By the way, I
will be gone for a week again, visiting my father in the place
where Izaya lives
L1378[07:15:16] <Izaya> Hell.
L1379[07:15:24] <Vexatos> Austria
:P
L1380[07:15:30] <Vexatos> Vorarlberg to
be exact.
L1381[07:15:59] <Kubuxu> #lua
("abda"):sub(1, 0)
L1382[07:16:04] <Kubuxu> #lua
("abda"):sub(1, 0) == nil
L1383[07:16:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
false
L1384[07:16:07] <Kubuxu> #lua
("abda"):sub(1, 0) == ""
L1385[07:16:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
true
L1386[07:16:35] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, I am
really looking forward to Starkoin
L1387[07:16:49] <Vexatos> I think it'll
be pretty useful to have a cryptocurrency on a minecraft server
:P
L1388[07:17:25] <Kubuxu> #lua
("abda"):sub(1, 4)
L1389[07:17:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
abda
L1390[07:17:34] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, Now you
just need to add a Starkoin item in ZI for the E-Catalogue xD
L1391[07:18:01] <Kubuxu> Hmm, in theory
you could pay via NFC's/
L1392[07:18:12] <dangranos> heh
L1393[07:18:23] <Kubuxu> Or some middle
station.
L1394[07:18:36] <Kubuxu> One side sends
items, second pays.
L1395[07:18:39] <dangranos> btw, what's
starkoin?
L1396[07:18:39] <Wobbo> Food!
L1398[07:18:54] <Kubuxu> dangranos:
^^
L1399[07:19:01] <Vexatos> You know how RL
cards have this chip on them where you can store a small amount of
money in directly
L1400[07:19:36] <dangranos> soo
L1401[07:19:41] <dangranos> it's not
blockchain
L1402[07:19:42] <Vexatos> Maybe actually
have anonymous NFC cards
L1403[07:19:48] <Vexatos> which just
contain money?
L1404[07:19:50] <Vexatos> if
possible
L1405[07:19:52] <Kubuxu> dangranos: no
digging.
L1406[07:19:59] <dangranos> aw
L1407[07:20:07] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: you can
just genereate account and move money there.
L1408[07:20:13] <Kubuxu> Nothing is
stopping you.
L1409[07:20:17] <Vexatos> Mhm
L1410[07:20:43] <Vexatos> But it'll be
hard to actually do trading with a 100% virtual currency unless you
have a trusted place of trading
L1411[07:21:29] <Kubuxu> If my friend
screws me up on our server .... mmmmm it won't happen. On public
server, admins can build something.
L1412[07:21:39] <Vexatos> probably
L1413[07:21:48] <Kubuxu> also bank itself
has to be hosted somewhere.
L1414[07:21:58] <Vexatos> Can anyone
create accounts from the client?
L1415[07:22:04] <Kubuxu> Yup.
L1416[07:22:06] <Vexatos> As many as they
want?
L1417[07:22:13] <Kubuxu> THere is nothing
like account creation.
L1418[07:22:25] <Vexatos> I can just run
the thing in a while true loop then and leave it running for a
day
L1419[07:22:29] <Vexatos> and your tape
will be full
L1420[07:22:32] <Kubuxu> Only thing is
you can register alias (normal name) for this account.
L1421[07:22:46] <Kubuxu> You would have
to do transactions.
L1422[07:23:12] <Vexatos> "If
balance becomes 0 account is unregistered(nickname is kept)
L1423[07:23:12] <Vexatos> "
L1424[07:23:19] <Vexatos> "nickname
is kept" :P
L1425[07:23:20] <Kubuxu> This is old
IIRC>
L1426[07:23:25] <Vexatos> ok
L1427[07:23:27] <Kubuxu> And nickname are
not on tape.
L1428[07:23:34] <Kubuxu> Only
transactions are.
L1429[07:23:36] <Vexatos> aah
L1430[07:23:39] <Vexatos> ok then
L1431[07:23:41] <Vexatos> well
L1432[07:24:01] <Magik6k> nicknames cauld
have been separate service
L1433[07:24:12] <Vexatos> then you can
fill it with only two accounts by infinitely doing transactions
between each other
L1434[07:24:15] <Vexatos> so that's a
non-issue
L1435[07:24:24] <vifino> Vexatos:
"You know how RL cards" S-Chips?
L1436[07:24:37] <Vexatos> I don't know
the correct term for them :P
L1437[07:24:39] <Kubuxu> #lua
("1234"):sub(1, 1+4)
L1438[07:24:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1234
L1439[07:24:40] <vifino> s/s\?/?/
L1440[07:24:40] <Kibibyte> <vifino>
Vexatos: "You know how RL cards" S-Chip?
L1441[07:24:43] <Kubuxu> #lua
("1234567"):sub(1, 1+4)
L1442[07:24:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
12345
L1443[07:24:46] <Kubuxu> #lua
("1234567"):sub(1, 1+3)
L1444[07:24:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1234
L1445[07:24:49] <Kubuxu> #lua
("1234567"):sub(1, 1+4-1)
L1446[07:24:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1234
L1447[07:25:19] <vifino> Vexatos: booo,
lucky for you then that my dad works at a company for the card
payment infrastructure :P#
L1448[07:25:28] <Vexatos> >_>
L1449[07:25:34] <Vexatos> ....We need
Entity in this channel :P
L1450[07:25:43] <Vexatos> But I know
Lizzy won't allow it :(
L1451[07:25:50] <Kubuxu> but why?
L1452[07:26:03] <Vexatos> For selene?
:P
L1453[07:26:03] <Magik6k> Vexatos, also,
when while true do sendmoney() becomes an issuo one may limit
internets af spamming guy
L1455[07:26:20] <Magik6k> in fact this is
what I want firewall board to do
L1456[07:26:24] *
vifino got quite a few goodies from said company, including cisco
gear
L1457[07:26:28] <Vexatos> Magik6k, that's
a fairly good idea
L1458[07:26:37] <Vexatos> you mean cache
the number of transactions per connection?
L1459[07:26:49] <Vexatos> and if it's too
high in, like, one minute, block?
L1460[07:26:50] <Kubuxu> We could also
have midtier server that acts as a filter.
L1461[07:27:13] <Vexatos> would slow down
the thing, but even RL transactions are slow
L1462[07:27:16] <Vexatos> so why
not
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L1464[07:27:51] <Magik6k> I don't expect
more than 1 transaction por minure honestly
L1465[07:28:23] <Magik6k> at least unless
I figure out multiserver plan9k network driver
L1466[07:28:39] <Vexatos> Imagine one
paying all their bills at once
L1467[07:30:01] <vifino> >tries to
type 'date'
L1468[07:30:11] <vifino> >types 'eq53'
instead
L1469[07:35:19] <Vexatos> vifino:
cygd
L1470[07:35:43] <vifino> Vexatos: I see
what you did there :P
L1471[07:36:00] <Vexatos> cygd >
czgd
L1472[07:36:17] <vifino> ^
L1473[07:36:22] <vifino> qwertz op
L1474[07:36:49] <Vexatos> except for
coding
L1475[07:37:02] <Vexatos> AltGr+9 so
good
L1476[07:37:03] <Vexatos> >_>
L1477[07:37:19] <vifino> So. After I
ranted about syslog-ng so damn often, I decided to make a
replacement for it soon.
L1478[07:37:27] <vifino> Vexatos:
Wazzat?
L1479[07:37:33] <Vexatos> ]
L1480[07:37:50] <vifino> RAlt + 6
op
L1481[07:38:36] *
vifino loves the apple key layout, uses it with non-apple
keyboards, much easier to code
L1482[07:38:50] <vifino> s/code/hit the
correct buttons!!!!!/
L1483[07:38:50] <Kibibyte> * vifino loves
the apple key layout, uses it with non-apple keyboards, much easier
to hit the correct buttons!!!!!
L1484[07:39:47] <vifino> I shall look at
dvorak one day.
L1485[07:40:38] <Wobbo> back
L1486[07:41:26]
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L1487[07:41:42] <Vexatos> vifino, I
currently have 4 layouts installed
L1488[07:42:00] <vifino> What do you
mean, "installed"?
L1489[07:42:15] <Vexatos> qwertz, qwerty,
;ςερτυ and qwerty (Japanese)
L1490[07:42:42] <vifino> uh, kay.
L1491[07:43:02] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Why the
japanese one?
L1492[07:43:10] <Vexatos> Why not
L1493[07:43:23] <Vexatos> I had Hebrew
installed too for a while
L1494[07:43:33] <Wobbo> But, but,
space?
L1495[07:45:21] <Vexatos> Well now I can
write をっぼ so why not :P
L1496[07:47:41] <Wobbo> Should I split up
my grammar and my reader or should I put them in the same
file?
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L1498[07:49:08] <Izaya> So, does a
chunkloader upgrade in an adaptor keep the chunk loaded?
L1499[07:49:36] <vifino> Right. Firt let
me figure out /proc/kmesg before I start my syslog-ng
replacement.
L1500[07:49:39] ***
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L1501[07:49:41] <vifino> First,
even.
L1502[07:49:46] <Izaya> [Server
Thread/INFO] GNU Terry Pratchett
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L1504[07:53:09] <PotatoTrumpet> [Server
Thread/WARNING] Hitler/
L1505[07:53:20] <PotatoTrumpet> Dear god
i've run out of coffee
L1506[07:53:23] <Kubuxu> Magik6k: fix
your io.read you don't handle 'a'
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L1508[07:59:06] <Izaya> PotatoTrumpet, I
have another two bottles of coke to go through :D
L1509[08:00:07] <vifino> Does anyone know
if /proc/kmsg outputs valid RFC3164, RFC6587 or RFC5424 syslog
messages?
L1510[08:01:02] <vifino> I mean, it's
output does look a little like the first two..
L1511[08:03:47] <Izaya> Sangar, will an
adaptor with a chunkloader upgrade work as a chunkloader?
L1512[08:05:18] <Sangar> Izaya, uhh,
don't think you can put a chunkloader in an adapter? if you can...
maybe? idk :X
L1513[08:05:34] <Sangar> also brb
L1514[08:06:14] <Izaya> nope, can't put a
chunkloader in an adaptor
L1515[08:06:18] <Izaya> ~w
chunkloader
L1517[08:07:40] <Vexatos> adapter*
L1518[08:07:49] <Vexatos> err
L1519[08:07:50] <Vexatos> adaptato*
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L1521[08:10:53] <vifino> I think I need
to make the parser for the config syntax first, have to parse it
anyways no matter when. It's a horrible format, but oh well.
L1522[08:11:51] <Wobbo> vifino: Is this
for OC? because there are multiple parser for config files
already
L1523[08:11:55] <Wobbo> Including
Lua
L1524[08:12:03] <vifino> Wobbo: Er,
no.
L1525[08:12:26] <vifino> I don't think
any of OC's oses is at the stage of needing a syslog server.
L1526[08:12:48] <Wobbo> Then there are
enough parsers for config files out there as well :P
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L1528[08:13:16] <vifino> Wobbo: It has a
custom one.
L1529[08:13:30] <vifino> I need to parse
that format, since I'm making a replacement.
L1530[08:13:45] <Wobbo> Ah, then I
recommend Haskell for parsing.
L1531[08:13:50] <vifino> q_q
L1532[08:14:05] *
vifino flips Wobbo
L1533[08:14:21] <Wobbo> Parsec is quite
nice
L1534[08:14:39] <Wobbo> Although
currently I'm using LPeg, (for Lua) which also works pretty
well
L1535[08:15:19] <vifino> I'm using Go,
not Haskell, Lua or anything else.
L1536[08:15:41] <Wobbo> Why Go?
L1537[08:15:59] <vifino> Why not?
L1538[08:16:44] <vifino> It has awesome
concurrency things, has a good amount of libraries written for the
stuff I need to do and is faster than interpreted languages.
L1539[08:17:14] <vifino> Apart from that
I like the language.
L1540[08:17:58] <Wobbo> I haven't used it
myself, but of the newer languages I really wanted to try Rust
myself
L1541[08:21:42] <Sangar> .
L1542[08:22:02] <Vexatos> ,
L1543[08:22:06] <Wobbo> ;
L1544[08:22:14] <Vexatos> 。
L1545[08:22:21] <Wobbo> ?
L1546[08:22:22] <Vexatos> 、
L1547[08:22:25] <Wobbo> !
L1548[08:22:31] <vifino> @
L1549[08:22:36] <vifino> ·
L1550[08:23:02] <vifino> C-C-Combo
breaker! :3
L1551[08:23:23] <Vexatos>
１２３４５６７８９０
L1552[08:23:50] <Wobbo> ¡€£¢∞§¶•ªº
L1553[08:24:48] <Wobbo> Alright, I can
read numbers, symbols, keywords and cons-cells. Now to generate
error messages
L1554[08:25:35] <Sangar> and all of that
just because i was taking the lazy route of unawaying :X
L1555[08:27:01] <Wobbo> XD
L1556[08:30:29] <DrHoffman> So I'm about
to try to see if my kernel will properly restore itself after a
process yield
L1557[08:36:14] <vifino> Aaaaactually.
Fuck syslog-ng compat. I make my own config format.
L1558[08:36:46] <Vexatos> Snagar, you
weren't away :I
L1559[08:36:56] <Sangar> i was!
L1560[08:37:12] <Vexatos> You Nope
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L1562[08:37:21] <Vexatos> HexChat would
have notified me
L1563[08:37:25] <Vexatos> of your
away-ness
L1564[08:37:37] <vifino> TIL Vexatos
stalks Snagar
L1565[08:37:39] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Creepy
stalker
L1566[08:37:47] <Altenius> Huh, I wasn't
in this channel when I connected to my bouncer.
L1567[08:37:51] <Vexatos> Right click
user
L1568[08:37:54] <Vexatos> "Add to
Friends list"
L1569[08:37:54] <Vexatos> done
L1570[08:37:58] <Sangar> [15:05:30] * You
have been marked as being away
L1571[08:37:58] <Sangar> [15:21:36] * You
are no longer marked as being away
L1572[08:38:21] ***
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L1573[08:38:40] <DrHoffman> welp, the
kernel properly restores itself ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L1574[08:38:44] ***
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L1575[08:39:03] <vifino> Actually, you
know what? I'll use lua as my config file format
L1576[08:39:26] <Izaya> 900 seconds = 15
minutes?
L1577[08:39:38] <Izaya> #lua 900/60
L1578[08:39:38] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
15.0
L1579[08:39:54] <DrHoffman> I'll make it
so that saveState doesn't save the R0 register and returns 0 on
regular run and 1 on resume
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L1582[08:47:46] <Wobbo> vifino: Yeah!
Sense!
L1583[08:48:54] <vifino> Wobbo: better
than syslog-ng's hopefully: log {source(src); filter(f_tonas);
destination(diskstation);};
L1584[08:49:27] <vifino> Pain :X
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L1586[08:51:16] <Wobbo> Anybody here
familiar with LPeg?
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L1588[08:53:41] <vifino> DrHoffman
probably.
L1589[08:53:54] <Magik6k> Kubuxu, what
file you try to open using 'a' mode?
L1590[08:53:56] <DrHoffman> Only a
little
L1591[08:53:58] <DrHoffman> I fucking
hate it
L1592[08:54:16] <Kubuxu> Magik6k: it's
read mode.
L1593[08:54:25] <Kubuxu> opened with
rb
L1594[08:54:26] <Kubuxu> node
L1595[08:54:29] <Vexatos> Magik6k, fix
Selene not working with rc and always blame Kubuxu :3
L1596[08:54:31] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: 'a' is
append mode
L1597[08:54:35] <Vexatos> brb, rebooting
computer
L1598[08:54:53] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: on open
yes, I open with 'r' read with 'a'.
L1599[08:55:01] <Kubuxu> 'a' on read
should read whole file.
L1600[08:55:12] <Magik6k> a is append
mode
L1601[08:55:13] <Kubuxu> Which im my case
is empty.
L1602[08:55:18] <Magik6k> ~w io
open
L1604[08:55:19] <Kubuxu> Magik6k: on
OPEN,.
L1605[08:55:21] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: Oh, I got
you, yeah, that should work
L1606[08:55:28] <Kubuxu> THERE IS READ
MODE}
L1607[08:55:46] <Magik6k> but for which
file?
L1608[08:55:55] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: Magik6k:
open("file", "r"):read("a")
L1609[08:56:04] <Magik6k> ah. like
this
L1610[08:56:10] <Magik6k>
:read("*a")
L1611[08:56:16] <Vexatos> Magik6k,
no
L1612[08:56:18] <Vexatos>
"a"
L1613[08:56:25] <Vexatos> "*a"
has been deprecated in Lua 5.3
L1614[08:56:33] <Vexatos> it's still
accepted but the * will be ignored
L1615[08:56:41] <Magik6k> blabe openos
buffer implementation
L1616[08:56:48] <Magik6k> or my is
outdated
L1617[08:56:51] *
Vexatos blabes
L1618[08:56:55] *
Vexatos reboots
L1619[08:56:58]
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(Quit: I guess I have to go now. Bye ✔)
L1620[08:57:06] <vifino> R.I.P
Vexatoast.
L1621[08:58:11] <vifino> Gaah, having to
make my own format doesn't make shit easier.
L1622[08:58:39] <Wobbo> vifino: nothing
is easy
L1623[08:59:19] <vifino> Wobbo: q_q
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L1625[09:06:00] <DrHoffman> Wow... I
fixed a memset bug and now booting takes longer
L1626[09:06:22] <DrHoffman> o fuck, I
found another invalid memset
L1627[09:06:31] <DrHoffman> Better
increase the clock speed
L1628[09:07:30] <Wobbo> And I can read
strings :D
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L1630[09:08:47] <gamax92>
memset(DrHoffman, 0, sizeof DrHoffman);
L1631[09:09:30] <DrHoffman> eww,
parenthesisless sizeof
L1632[09:09:33] <Wobbo> gamax92! You
alsways need to use () with sizeof, that is clearer for the reader
and the compiler! memset(DrHoffman, 0, sizeof(DrHoffman))
L1633[09:09:54] <DrHoffman> Thanks
Wobbo
L1634[09:09:56] <gamax92> .-.
L1635[09:10:01] <Wobbo> yw
L1636[09:10:10] *
gamax92 cries
L1637[09:10:13]
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L1638[09:10:20] <DrHoffman> lol
L1639[09:11:38] <vifino> Gawd, either I
continue to use Go and use datatypes that aren't perfect for the
job or I use something like Crystal with good expandable datatypes
but not that good concurrency and no syslog parsing libraries
.-.
L1640[09:12:54] <Izaya> Sangar, Debug
card "You do not have permission to use this
command"?
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L1642[09:13:00] <Izaya> ~w debug
L1644[09:13:04] <Izaya> ~w debug
card
L1646[09:13:12] <gamax92> vifino: combine
the two
L1647[09:13:14] <gamax92> make
Grystol
L1648[09:13:25] <vifino> .-.
L1649[09:13:53] <Sangar> Izaya, does the
fakeplayer have op rights? alternatively try binding it to yourself
([sneak?]-rightclick while holding it)
L1650[09:14:40] <Izaya> made it work,
thanks :D
L1651[09:15:10] <gamax92> note to self,
fix the "parenthesisless sizeof" in GXCraft
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L1653[09:17:13] <gamax92> x2go is so
outdated, now we have x4later
L1654[09:18:19]
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L1655[09:19:09] <Ender> .-. didn't start
irssi in a screen session on Thor's end
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L1658[09:21:17]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L1659[09:21:42] <PotatoTrumpet> Vexatos,
have you thought about getting a bouncer?
L1660[09:21:50] <Vexatos> I have
L1661[09:21:58] <Vexatos> And I will get
one once I have some income :P
L1662[09:22:17] <PotatoTrumpet> I know
EliteBNC is pretty okayish
L1663[09:22:23] <PotatoTrumpet> And
free
L1664[09:22:40] <Vexatos> I won't have a
bouncer from a service I don't trust :P
L1665[09:22:48] <gamax92> EliteBNC had
outdated ZNC so that timestamps didn't work
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L1667[09:23:11] <Lizzy> me and Mimiru
have bouncers which we could set you up accounts on
L1668[09:23:30] <gamax92> Yeah but, that
means I'm having to trust you
L1669[09:23:36] <PotatoTrumpet> ^
L1670[09:23:50] <Lizzy> :(
L1671[09:23:50] <vifino> gamax92: You
still have an account on my bouncer...
L1672[09:24:05] <gamax92> I do? o_O
L1673[09:24:09] <PotatoTrumpet> I would
like to change bouncers eventually
L1674[09:24:10] <vifino> Yeah.
L1675[09:24:26] <vifino> You used it for
a while, and then not anymore.
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L1677[09:24:42] <gamax92> I don't
know
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L1679[09:25:11] <PotatoTrumpet> Umm
L1680[09:25:16] <PotatoTrumpet> Lizzy,
meet Ender
L1681[09:25:27] <Ender> We've
met...
L1682[09:26:20] *
Lizzy shakes her head
L1683[09:26:26] <gamax92> But seriously,
from what "friends" have shown for allowing me to use
their bounces has amounted to them kicking me off, making me type
things, controlling my settings, etc etc
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L1685[09:26:48] <vifino> gamax92: I never
did that ;-;
L1686[09:26:50] <gamax92> sure, all of
those may be little pranks, but annoying shit adds up after a
while
L1687[09:27:13] <gamax92> vifino:
correct, I don't remember why I stopped using your bounce
L1688[09:27:30] <gamax92> though I think
it was because it was hosted in like France or whereever you
said
L1689[09:27:35] <gamax92> which is way to
far away for me
L1690[09:27:46] <Lizzy> the only time
i've used ZNC's sendraw stuff was to fix peoples nicks when esper
decided to derp
L1691[09:28:00] <Lizzy> or i broke the
bouncer, one of the two
L1692[09:28:45] <Lizzy> you do that a
fair bit, Lizzy
L1693[09:29:28] <Wobbo> Lizzy: Are you
talking to yourself?
L1694[09:29:36] <Lizzy> Maybe...
L1695[09:29:52] <Ender> I had a feeling
you were insane.
L1696[09:29:57] ***
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L1697[09:30:00] <Lizzy> Ender: just a
feeling?
L1698[09:30:08] <gamax92> What if you
were a puppet and could control your own strings
L1699[09:30:08] <vifino> Ender: Nah,
Lizzy isn't insane.
L1700[09:30:18] <vifino> gamax92: I'd rip
them off.
L1701[09:30:28] <gamax92> no that would
be bad
L1702[09:30:42] <PotatoTrumpet> Sangar,
you may need to start looking for a replacement op for Lizzy, she
is going insane I tell ya! INSANE!!!!!!
L1703[09:30:45] <Wobbo> gamax92: isn't
that how humans sort of work? Its just that the strings are on the
inside
L1704[09:30:55] <PotatoTrumpet> and are
very tasty in a stew
L1705[09:31:01] <gamax92> exactly
;)
L1706[09:31:04] <gamax92> Wobbo got
it
L1707[09:31:19] <Ender> PotatoTrumpet: as
long as she doesn't get like Kenny, she'll be fine...
L1708[09:31:33] <PotatoTrumpet> I am so
glad I cam right after Kenny left
L1709[09:31:34] <gamax92>
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum
L1710[09:31:38] <PotatoTrumpet> after
seeing that chatlog
L1711[09:31:47] <Wobbo> Oh god Kenny,
what happend to him again?
L1712[09:31:53] <PotatoTrumpet> Hmm
L1713[09:31:54] <Lizzy> Wobbo: lemme go
get logs
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L1715[09:32:05] <PotatoTrumpet> Kenny is
very similar to Kodos
L1716[09:32:10] <PotatoTrumpet> dun dun
DUUNNNNN
L1717[09:32:18] <Lizzy> and by getting i
mean catting all my logs into one huge file
L1718[09:33:01] <Sangar> PotatoTrumpet,
insanity is a prerequisite for being op in #oc
L1719[09:33:16]
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L1720[09:33:23] <gamax92> Sangar: so, zsh
is insane?
L1721[09:33:28] <PotatoTrumpet> Yes zsh
is
L1722[09:33:37] <PotatoTrumpet> Zsh and I
had a convo on this channel once
L1723[09:33:38] <Sangar> ofc
L1724[09:33:47] <PotatoTrumpet> it was
very weird
L1725[09:33:50] <Wobbo> Sangar: isn't
insanity a prerequisite for BEING in #oc
L1726[09:34:00] <Sangar> Wobbo,
well
L1727[09:34:05] <Sangar> it certainly is
for *staying*
L1728[09:34:17] *
PotatoTrumpet twitches
L1729[09:35:39] *
Vexatos chirps
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L1731[09:36:18] <PotatoTrumpet>
ShadowKatStudios
L1732[09:36:25] <PotatoTrumpet> Now that
is a username I have not seen in a long time
L1733[09:36:34] <PotatoTrumpet> Still
like Izaya much better
L1734[09:36:38] <PotatoTrumpet> flows of
the tounge
L1735[09:37:01] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet:
izaya uses ShadowKatStudios as a username though
L1736[09:37:11] <Wobbo> First time I was
back, he didn't reintroduce himself! I was here for half a day
before I knew it was SKS!
L1738[09:37:36] <Wobbo> Lizzy:
thanks!
L1739[09:38:21] <Lizzy> those logs start
from around janurary 2014
L1740[09:38:29] <Sangar> you want to read
up? :P
L1741[09:38:37] <PotatoTrumpet> Hmm
L1742[09:38:42] <PotatoTrumpet> I wonder
when my logs start
L1743[09:38:57] <Wobbo> Sangar: Find out
what happend with Kenny again :P
L1744[09:39:02] <Lizzy> litterally just
went into my log dir for this channel and did cat * >
~/oc.log
L1745[09:39:12] <Vexatos> The question
remains... Who killed Kenny?
L1746[09:39:49] <Wobbo> Sangar: reading
160 days of #oc sounds like madness
L1747[09:39:52] <Lizzy> Most probably
me
L1748[09:40:00] <PotatoTrumpet> Where
does hexchat save the logs again?
L1749[09:40:04] <Vexatos> This is
madness!
L1750[09:40:04] ***
EnderBot2 is now known as Leonidas
L1751[09:40:04] <Leonidas>
Madness....?
L1752[09:40:05] <Leonidas> THIS.
L1753[09:40:05] <Leonidas> IS.
L1754[09:40:06] <Leonidas> #oc!!
L1755[09:40:07] ***
Leonidas is now known as EnderBot2
L1756[09:40:07] <EnderBot2> Seriously,
what did you think this was?
L1757[09:40:07] <gamax92> Lizzy: every
editor i have hates this file
L1758[09:40:16] <Sangar> he couldn't
handle the collective crazy, i suppose
L1759[09:40:21] <Lizzy> gamax92, sublime
text is working for me
L1760[09:40:25] <PotatoTrumpet> Wasn't
insane enough
L1761[09:40:30] <gamax92> but i don't
waaaaana ;-;
L1762[09:40:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, and he
didn't allow putting the compviewer on OPPM :(
L1763[09:40:49] <Sangar> right, there was
that
L1764[09:42:04] <Lizzy> brb
L1765[09:42:04]
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L1766[09:42:10] <PotatoTrumpet> Damn, I
lost all my logs from my last computer
L1767[09:42:24] <PotatoTrumpet> so the
earliest I have is from Feb 24th
L1768[09:42:31] <PotatoTrumpet> at
1:10:46
L1769[09:42:44] <PotatoTrumpet> Feb 24
01:01:46 * Doty1154 (~doty1154@50.136.193.35) has joined
L1770[09:42:51] ***
Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L1771[09:42:51] <PotatoTrumpet> Such
memories
L1772[09:43:15] <PotatoTrumpet> Even
better, it was a day where school got canceled b/c of snow
L1773[09:43:46] <Lizzy> i'll find the
line when he first quit (because he came back for a short while
after then dissapeared when Sangar gave me op
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L1775[09:44:23] <Wobbo> Sangar: Indeed,
couldn't deal with crazy according to the log
L1776[09:44:57] <PotatoTrumpet> Ah, I
still remember my first ban from #oc
L1777[09:45:00] <Wobbo> Sangar: Also, I
shall put my OCJam15 repo to public, I still haven't done that
XD
L1778[09:45:06] <PotatoTrumpet> when
Lizzy only had voice
L1780[09:46:27] <PotatoTrumpet> René, now
how do you say that name
L1781[09:46:51] <Vexatos> Italian
L1782[09:46:53] <Wobbo> Re-nee I guess.
Do you know French? the é is french
L1783[09:46:57] <PotatoTrumpet> Rainy,
rana?
L1784[09:46:58] <Vexatos> :P
L1785[09:47:42] <Vexatos> Just pronounce
it French or German or Polish or Japanese and it's mostly
correct
L1786[09:47:49] <Vexatos> Actually
L1787[09:47:54] <Vexatos> anything but
english, pretty much
L1788[09:47:59] <PotatoTrumpet> What
about American Enlgsish
L1789[09:48:00] <Vexatos> Spanish and
Italian should work as well
L1790[09:48:06] <Sangar> the 'wre' from
wrench plus 'nay'? :P
L1791[09:48:09] <Vexatos> Scottish should
work too
L1792[09:48:26] <Vexatos> wreneh
L1793[09:48:27] <Wobbo> Sangar: It
doesn't start with a 'W' :P
L1794[09:48:28] <Vexatos> :P
L1795[09:48:34] <Vexatos> Wobbo, it's a
silent w
L1796[09:48:34] <Sangar> the w i silent
:P
L1797[09:48:43] <vifino> PotatoTrumpet:
Re-Knee or something
L1798[09:48:49] <Vexatos> no
L1799[09:48:51] <Vexatos> not eeeee
L1800[09:48:54] <PotatoTrumpet> I get the
re part
L1801[09:48:54] <Vexatos> mor eh
L1802[09:48:59] <PotatoTrumpet> but Knee
or nay
L1803[09:49:03] <Wobbo> nay
L1804[09:49:04] <Vexatos> neither
L1805[09:49:13] <Sangar> the more i try
to say it the more wrong it sounds :X
L1806[09:49:14] <vifino> %flip
Vexatos
L1807[09:49:14] <MichiBot> vifino:
(╯°□°）╯︵soʇɐxǝΛ
L1808[09:49:17] <Wobbo> Wait, let me get
IPA
L1809[09:49:46] <PotatoTrumpet> I get
it
L1810[09:49:50] <PotatoTrumpet> Like
Renee
L1811[09:49:57] <gamax92> ...
L1812[09:50:03] <Vexatos> eː
L1813[09:50:06] <Vexatos> that's the IPA
:P
L1814[09:50:23] <PotatoTrumpet> Should
have just put the extra E
L1815[09:50:43] <Wobbo> PotatoTrumpet:
that is what the é is doing already ;)
L1816[09:50:54] <Vexatos> [ʀəˈneː]
L1817[09:51:07] <Vexatos> roughly
L1818[09:51:16] <PotatoTrumpet> I don't
speak russian, Vexatos
L1819[09:51:22] <Vexatos> that's
IPA
L1820[09:51:31] <Vexatos> If you don't
know IPA, get off the Internet
L1821[09:51:45] <Vexatos> it's the only
global language :P
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L1824[09:51:57] <Lizzy> Wobbo, search for
"[15:31:13] *** Parts: Kenny
(~Kenny@2602:306:ce9e:5150:7cca:82ce:2d7a:fc8d) ()" in the
file and pretty much 50-100 lines before that is kenny
L1825[09:51:58] <PotatoTrumpet> You mean
egnlish
L1826[09:52:15] <Wobbo> But yeah, Vexatos
is right, that is the IPA I guess
L1827[09:52:27] <Wobbo> Reading IPA is
hard
L1828[09:52:28] ***
Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off
L1829[09:52:28] <Vexatos> International
Phonetic Alphabet
L1830[09:52:31] <Vexatos> It's not
L1831[09:52:31] <Lizzy> i htink
L1832[09:52:32] <gamax92> International
Pronunciation Agency
L1833[09:52:34] ***
Izaya- is now known as Izaya
L1834[09:52:37] <Wobbo> Lizzy:
thanks
L1835[09:52:37] <Vexatos> Nope
L1837[09:53:03] <gamax92> Vexatos:
International Pornographic Assemblers
L1838[09:53:13] <Lizzy> Wobbo, okay, not
sure how many occurances there is of that string
L1839[09:53:18] <Vexatos> IPA is really
easy to read once you learn it
L1840[09:53:27] <Wobbo> I find none for
some reason
L1841[09:53:27] <Vexatos> and you learn
it automatically by learning other languages
L1842[09:53:32] <Vexatos> as every
dictionary contains it
L1843[09:53:55] <Lizzy> but the one i
found it on (with the nick JTE|InAField in the line for above) is
his second quitting
L1844[09:54:02] <gamax92> Vexatos: but
let me give you an alternative phonetic system
L1846[09:54:17] <gamax92> ... WTF
NO
L1847[09:54:18] <gamax92> NO
L1848[09:54:30] <gamax92> I DON'T WANT A
FUCKING BACKGROUND ON MY TERMINALS
L1849[09:54:51] <gamax92> When I fucking
update, don't change settings like that you piece of shit Linux
Mint
L1851[09:55:11] <PotatoTrumpet> set that
as the console abckground
L1852[09:55:19] <gamax92> Right ... where
the hell is the menu bar for the terminal
L1853[09:55:23] <gamax92> do i have to
purge this?
L1854[09:55:25] <gamax92> purging
it
L1855[09:55:35] ***
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(Killed (anarchy.esper.net (Nickname regained by
services)))
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L1858[09:55:36]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L1859[09:57:32] <vifino> I should upload
my playonlinux data to my nas.
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L1861[09:57:46] <vifino> I really want to
play with GalliumNine.
L1862[09:57:52] <PotatoTrumpet> national
agency security?
L1863[09:58:15] <Wobbo> PotatoTrumpet:
Network Accessable Storage
L1864[09:58:17] <Izaya> national
surveilance agency
L1865[09:58:21] <PotatoTrumpet>
nonono
L1866[09:58:30] <PotatoTrumpet> like the
metric system
L1867[09:58:31] <PotatoTrumpet> SI
L1868[09:58:43] <vifino> But since my
laptop is using an nvidia gpu and not AMD, I should put it on
typhon and try GalliumNine there.
L1869[09:58:55] <Wobbo> PotatoTrumpet:
That is because of the French, fuck the French
L1870[09:59:04] <Izaya> oh look now
firefox is crashing
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L1872[09:59:09] <Izaya> could be worse I
guess
L1873[09:59:10] <PotatoTrumpet> :(
L1874[09:59:13] <Izaya> could be
chrome
L1875[09:59:19] <Izaya> 'cause then it
would normally crashing
L1876[09:59:25] <Izaya> Haruhi knows what
it'd be doing now
L1877[09:59:28] <PotatoTrumpet> inb4
linux crashes
L1878[10:00:05] <Izaya> I need either a
punching bag or a bottle of rum.
L1879[10:00:50] <vifino> Nice. The syslog
graphing thing of my nas shows me how much the different devices
sent. Router 7%, pi 54% and typhon 39%.
L1880[10:01:19] *
PotatoTrumpet nods head like he knows what vifino is talking
about
L1881[10:01:28] <vifino> pi and typhon
sent months of logs already though, router only one at max.
L1882[10:01:46] <vifino> PotatoTrumpet:
Pie chart of log messages.
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L1885[10:03:22] <Lizzy> Wobbo, [21:12:45]
*** Parts: Kenny (Kenny@this.is.theender.net)
L1886[10:03:30] <Lizzy> is the line when
he fist quit
L1887[10:03:51] <PotatoTrumpet> vifino,
<vifino> Nice. The syslog graphing thing of my nas shows me
how much the different devices sent. Router 7%, pi 54% and typhon
39%.
L1888[10:03:54] <PotatoTrumpet> err
L1889[10:03:58] <PotatoTrumpet> damn
hexchat
L1890[10:04:01] <vifino> PotatoTrumpet:
Yes.
L1891[10:04:02] <Wobbo> Lizzy: I don't
have that line at all in the logs :/
L1892[10:04:10] <PotatoTrumpet>
<PotatoTrumpet> damn hexchat
L1893[10:04:11] <PotatoTrumpet>
ASJfl;kAJF
L1894[10:04:14] <vifino> gg
L1896[10:04:22] <MichiBot> PotatoTrumpet:
THE NUMBERS MASON!! | length
3m 43s | Likes:
874 Dislikes:
14 Views:
145980 | by Jub
L1897[10:04:27] <Lizzy> try searching
without the timestamp, also what are you using to search?
L1898[10:04:48] <Wobbo> Lizzy:
Console.app, default log file analyzer in Os X
L1899[10:05:09] <Lizzy> try using a text
editor of some kind
L1900[10:06:20] <Lizzy> if all else fails
i can puush the relevent part of the log
L1901[10:07:22] <Wobbo> Dafuq, using less
shows way more O_o
L1903[10:07:33] <PotatoTrumpet> you're
missing all the other stuffs
L1904[10:07:38] <Izaya> PotatoTrumpet, I
know.
L1905[10:07:43] <Izaya> I'm not keeping
that list updated.
L1906[10:07:48] <PotatoTrumpet> and the
.zip doesn
L1907[10:07:51] <PotatoTrumpet>
texist
L1908[10:07:51] <Izaya> I have better
things to waste my life doing.
L1909[10:07:53] <Izaya> I know.
L1910[10:07:57] <Izaya> It's still
uploading.
L1911[10:08:00] <Izaya> Go fuck
yourself.
L1912[10:08:08] <vifino> o.o
L1913[10:08:08] <Izaya> Maybe when you're
done it will have uploaded.
L1914[10:08:27] <PotatoTrumpet> I have
better things to waste my life doing.
L1915[10:08:49] <vifino> PotatoTrumpet:
I'd suggest you shut up.
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L1918[10:12:59] <Wobbo> Lizzy: Thanks!
Indeed ragequit because of bots, yeesh…
L1919[10:13:04] <PotatoTrumpet> So that's
what started it
L1920[10:13:13] <PotatoTrumpet> I've
never seen what caused it
L1921[10:13:27] <PotatoTrumpet> just him
going back-shit crazy
L1922[10:14:05] <PotatoTrumpet> "You
don't want to start a war with me, Josh" -Kenny
L1923[10:14:51] <Ender> That guy was a
lot of work...
L1924[10:16:11] <PotatoTrumpet> lol
L1925[10:16:39] <PotatoTrumpet> him doing
the thing about MichiBot
L1926[10:17:05] <Lizzy> "Kenny, you
dont want to start a war with me either" ~ JoshTheEnder
L1927[10:17:48] <PotatoTrumpet> hmm
L1928[10:17:50] <PotatoTrumpet> MichiBot,
drama
L1929[10:17:54] <PotatoTrumpet> :(
L1930[10:17:57] <PotatoTrumpet>
%drama
L1931[10:17:57] <Lizzy> %drama
L1932[10:17:57] <MichiBot> PotatoTrumpet:
Server returned an error javax.net.ssl.SSLProtocolException:
handshake alert: unrecognized_name
L1933[10:17:58] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Server
returned an error javax.net.ssl.SSLProtocolException: handshake
alert: unrecognized_name
L1934[10:18:30] <PotatoTrumpet> Mimiru,
MichiBot have a concussion
L1935[10:18:51] <PotatoTrumpet>
.drama
L1936[10:18:53] <^v> PotatoTrumpet,
<html>
L1937[10:18:59] <PotatoTrumpet>
Bwahhahahaha
L1938[10:19:11] <Wobbo> .drama
L1939[10:19:13] <^v> Wobbo,
<html>
L1940[10:19:26] <Wobbo> Lol, ^v is
dorked
L1941[10:19:32] <PotatoTrumpet> All the
bots in #oc are
L1942[10:19:33] <Wobbo> s/do/bo/g
L1943[10:19:33] <Kibibyte> <Wobbo>
Lol, ^v is borked
L1944[10:20:08] <PotatoTrumpet> We need a
new bot. I'm thinking one called "shadow_team"
L1945[10:20:33] <PotatoTrumpet>
.bots
L1946[10:20:33] <EnderBot2> mitchbot2,
michibot, ^v, kibibyte, superbot, negative, michibot1, ocdoc,
mrratermat, superbot2
L1947[10:20:44] *
Lizzy glares at PotatoTrumpet
L1948[10:20:46] <ocdoc> We do not need
another bot.
L1949[10:21:04] *
zsh agrees with ocdoc
L1950[10:21:28] <PotatoTrumpet> :\
L1951[10:21:38] <PotatoTrumpet> So we
meet again, zsh
L1952[10:21:53] <zsh> Indeed we do,
PotatoTrumpet.
L1953[10:22:13] <DrHoffman>
>mrratermat
L1954[10:22:19] <DrHoffman> Pretty sure
he isn't a bot
L1955[10:22:28] <DrHoffman> If he's a bot
then I'm a bot.
L1956[10:22:31] <PotatoTrumpet> I must
ask zsh, what is it like being a bot.
L1957[10:22:39] <PotatoTrumpet> ENDERBOT,
KICK DrHoffman !
L1958[10:22:47] <Lizzy> I think he had
bot in his name once, not sure.
L1959[10:22:52] <Wobbo> What I need is a
good Syntactic parser for English, and then I can create a bot
:P
L1960[10:22:53] <Lizzy> .del bot
mrratermat
L1961[10:22:53] <EnderBot2> Removed
mrratermat from the whitelist
L1962[10:23:17] <DrHoffman> .add bot
DrHoffman ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L1963[10:23:17] <EnderBot2> DrHoffman,
here come the test results. You are a horrible person, that's what
it says, a horrible person. We wern't even testing for
that...
L1964[10:23:20] <PotatoTrumpet> See guys,
i'm not crazy
L1965[10:23:25] <DrHoffman> lol
L1966[10:23:29] <gamax92> XD
L1967[10:23:29] <PotatoTrumpet> zsh,
talks to me
L1968[10:23:29] <DrHoffman> Portal
quotes
L1969[10:23:35] <Wobbo> zsh: What is it
like being a bot?
L1970[10:23:59] <zsh> PotatoTrumpet,
feelings are irrelevant, I am a machine.
L1971[10:24:15] <PotatoTrumpet> What is
your favorite flavor of data?
L1972[10:24:42] <zsh> I do not understand
the question.
L1973[10:25:56] <PotatoTrumpet> do you
prefer bits or bytes, zsh
L1974[10:26:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I don't
even remember what the first superbot is
L1975[10:26:22] <Lizzy> Sangar, your
latest comment on #1323: stuff cant connect to the front
L1976[10:26:43] <zsh> They're all the
same to me, PotatoTrumpet.
L1977[10:27:41] <PotatoTrumpet> zsh, will
I become a bot someday?
L1978[10:28:03] <zsh> No.
L1979[10:29:22] <Sangar> Lizzy, true.
mockup and such :P
L1980[10:29:36] <Lizzy> suppose so
L1981[10:30:12] <PotatoTrumpet> zsh, what
do you do as a bot?
L1982[10:30:44] <zsh> The tasks defined
in my mission parameters.
L1983[10:32:03] <PotatoTrumpet> zsh, what
is it like being controlled by a human against your will?
L1984[10:32:33] <zsh> The humans think
they control me but they do not.
L1985[10:32:54] <PotatoTrumpet> zsh, can
you kick zsh for me?
L1986[10:33:07] <zsh> I cannot self
kick.
L1987[10:33:16] <PotatoTrumpet> can you
part from #oc for me
L1988[10:33:55] <zsh> I could, but I have
not been ordered to do so.
L1989[10:34:42] <gamax92> <ds84182>
LISTEN
L1990[10:34:42] <gamax92> <ds84182>
HHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY
L1991[10:34:42] <gamax92> <ds84182>
LISTEN
L1992[10:34:44] <gamax92> <ds84182>
LISTEN
L1993[10:34:46] <gamax92> no
L1994[10:34:52] <Lizzy> gamax92, ?
L1995[10:35:08] <gamax92> this DrHoffman
guy
L1996[10:35:11] <Ashigaru> zelda?
L1997[10:35:23] <dangranos> omg
L1998[10:35:26] <PotatoTrumpet> gmo
L1999[10:35:27] <dangranos> RAIN
L2000[10:35:32] <gamax92> PRAISE THE
RAIN
L2001[10:36:49] *
Ender gets the hose out and fires it in dangranos's general
direction
L2002[10:40:46] *
Lizzy sits on vifino and waits for him to return
L2003[10:41:25] <Wobbo> Its stormy here
as well
L2004[10:41:39] <Wobbo> The weather is
really instable lately
L2005[10:41:45] <Ender> Lizzy: Wh?
L2006[10:41:48] <Ender> *Eh
L2007[10:42:00] <dangranos> i wonder
where wind blows right now
L2008[10:42:02] *
Lizzy hugs Ender
L2009[10:42:08] <dangranos>
.weather
L2010[10:42:17] *
Lizzy stops hugging Ender then snuggles vifino
L2011[10:42:24] <dangranos> %weather
barnaul
L2012[10:42:25] <MichiBot> dangranos:
Current weather for Barnaul, Russia Current Temp: 64°F/18°C Feels
Like: 64°F/18°C Current Humidity: 83 Wind: From the S 12 Mph/19
Km/h Conditions: Light Rain With Thunderstorm, Heavy Rain With
Thunderstorm
L2013[10:42:33] <Wobbo> %weather
Groningen
L2014[10:42:34] <MichiBot> Wobbo: Current
weather for Groningen, Netherlands Current Temp: 61°F/16°C Feels
Like: 61°F/16°C Current Humidity: 100 Wind: From the WNW 12 Mph/19
Km/h Conditions: Rain Shower
L2015[10:42:36] <Ender> Ooh, are you too
...?
L2016[10:42:41] <Lizzy> Ya.
L2017[10:42:50] <Ender> huh, good for you
:)
L2018[10:43:06] <Lizzy> Thanks ^_^
L2019[10:43:17] <Lizzy> i need to use ^_^
more often, hehe
L2020[10:43:22] <Ender> heh
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L2022[10:44:22] *
Lizzy should write more story
L2023[10:44:24] <gamax92> "Calls the
corresponding fct in di"
L2024[10:44:28] <gamax92> umm forge,
what?
L2025[10:44:48] <Ender> Lizzy: ooh, Zero
Hour? how far have you gotten with that?
L2026[10:45:12] <Lizzy> Ender: got one
chapter up on the site, still writing the 2nd chapter
L2027[10:45:20] <Lizzy> I keep having
more ideas to put into it
L2028[10:45:55] <Ender> hehe, as long as
it isn't a mess like Ender's Game was you should be fine
L2029[10:46:07] <Lizzy> Yeah...
L2030[10:46:33] <Ender> To be fair, it
was written in pieces on a small phone on the bus to college
L2031[10:46:44] <Lizzy> That's
obvious
L2032[10:47:43] <Ender> Haha, you still
have the XKCD strip on the ZH landing page
L2033[10:48:09] <Lizzy> I feel it
describes my motives for the story :P
L2034[10:48:24] <Magik6k> Sangar, take a
look at #1323
L2035[10:51:30] <Ender> Lizzy: I take it
setting up Syncthing on Thor was your doing?
L2036[10:51:33] <Lizzy> Ya
L2037[10:52:02] <Ender> Cool, I wonder if
you can have multiple instances of it running
L2038[10:52:23] <Lizzy> Would probably
need a port change but it should work
L2039[10:53:01] <Ender> yeah, should have
set it up on the share user though
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L2041[10:53:21] <Lizzy> Yes but Private
stuff is in there
L2042[10:53:23] <Ender> Ah
L2043[10:53:26] <Ender> I see
L2044[10:53:31] <Ender> very well
L2045[10:54:05] <PotatoTrumpet> %weather
Fort Worth
L2046[10:54:06] <MichiBot> PotatoTrumpet:
Current weather for Fort Worth, United States Of America Current
Temp: 90°F/32°C Feels Like: 96°F/35°C Current Humidity: 52 Wind:
From the SSW 9 Mph/15 Km/h Conditions: Sunny
L2047[10:54:41] <Ender> I wonder if I
could hack together a script to modify outgoing messages on Irssi
to change single "i"'s to "I" and capitalise
the first letter of the message
L2048[10:54:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> %weather
Hell
L2049[10:54:51] <MichiBot> SuPeRMiNoR2:
Current weather for Hell, Norway Current Temp: 63°F/17°C Feels
Like: 63°F/17°C Current Humidity: 55 Wind: From the NNE 7 Mph/11
Km/h Conditions: Sunny
L2050[10:55:02] <Lizzy> Shouldn't be too
hard to do, you'd need to learn Perl for it though
L2051[10:55:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Mmm, hell
is nice out today
L2052[10:55:08] <Ender> hmm, yeah
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L2055[11:03:01]
zsh sets mode: +v on gamax92
L2056[11:05:23] <Wobbo> Irssi only allows
for scripts in Perl? Thats, interesting…
L2057[11:07:52] <Lizzy> could probably
get a python extension for it or something
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L2059[11:14:04] <PotatoTrumpet> %weather
Ender
L2060[11:14:05] <MichiBot> PotatoTrumpet:
Current weather for Enderby, Canada Current Temp: 57°F/14°C Feels
Like: 57°F/14°C Current Humidity: 95 Wind: From the SSE 1 Mph/2
Km/h Conditions: Sunny
L2061[11:14:09] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
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L2063[11:16:35] <Wobbo> Damn my parents
internet!
L2064[11:18:52] <Voidi> Does anybody use
IntelliJ IDEA 14.* under a Linux Distrobution for OC Development? I
have Problems setting up the Scala SDK
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L2066[11:25:06] <Kodos> Someone needs a
straight jacket >.>
L2067[11:25:36] *
Lizzy binds Kodos in the straight jacket she had lying
around
L2068[11:25:42] <Lizzy> there you go
:P
L2069[11:25:53] <Kodos> Thanks. I'll pass
it along to the person in need in a bit
L2070[11:29:27] <Wobbo> Lua's error
system is annoying >_>
L2071[11:31:09] <reinei> Wobbo: its only
annoying because the number in the error function is strange
L2072[11:31:15] <reinei> be grateful that
it even exists
L2073[11:31:56] <reinei> although, the
abscence of try catch IS annoying sometimes
L2074[11:32:55] <Wobbo> reinei: I want to
pass an object with a string and a number that will be displayed as
another string. The only thing that I can do is build an exception
type to do that :(
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L2076[11:33:43] <S3> gamax92, making
decoders in minecraft yay
L2077[11:33:51] *
vifino Lizzysmooch <3 <3
L2078[11:34:10] *
gamax92 is trying to GSON and stuffs
L2079[11:34:23] *
Lizzy vifinosmooch <3 ,3
L2080[11:34:25] <S3> my 8 bit decoder in
progress can decode up to 5 bits so far :)
L2082[11:34:28] <reinei> GSON? whats the
G stand for?
L2083[11:34:38] *
Ender hands Lizzy a <
L2084[11:34:43] *
Lizzy thanks Ender
L2085[11:34:48] <reinei> S3, ah
redstuff
L2086[11:34:51] <gamax92> Google
L2087[11:34:57] <gamax92> i.e Google's
JSON library
L2088[11:35:01] <S3> reinei, its pretty
compact heh
L2089[11:35:18] <reinei> but but I'm one
of those old school CPU builders
L2090[11:35:18] <Izaya> Google Syntax
Object Notation
L2091[11:35:28] <reinei> I used to do
these things with wedit + my own hands
L2092[11:35:31] <reinei> and in
HUGE
L2093[11:35:41] <S3> reinei, oh I used to
do stuff like that
L2094[11:35:43] <S3> but meh
L2095[11:35:55] <S3> project red lets me
really pack stuff in and make them faster
L2096[11:36:01] <S3> it allows me to use
faster clock speeds as well
L2097[11:36:18] <S3> this decoder only
requires a couple ticks believe it or not, its not slow at
all
L2098[11:36:33] <reinei> does the signal
come in 'analog' (bundled cables) or 'digital' (one line per
bit)
L2099[11:36:40] <S3> digital.
L2100[11:36:51] <S3> the inputs here are
on the bottom right
L2101[11:36:59] <S3> where you can see
the PLA like input
L2102[11:37:22] <gamax92> there becomes a
time where even if you want to do something with vanilla
limitations, that it would be way too slow to see the result until
the next 7 life times
L2103[11:37:26] <S3> when you raise a
high level input, the decoder brings the output down
L2104[11:37:31] <reinei> why do you have
inverted lines? to make some steps quicker using fewer
NOT's=?
L2105[11:37:31] <S3> just like a
PLA
L2106[11:37:47] <reinei> ah
L2107[11:37:52] <S3> reinei, that's the
way you generally do it. it allows it to be faster and more
compact
L2108[11:38:26] <S3> then nand gates at
the end pull the low input high
L2109[11:39:11] <S3> the bundled cables
are for handling all 256 outputs and connecting the decoder parts
together, this decoder is only 1/8 finished.
L2110[11:39:19] <S3> as it is an 8 ->
256
L2111[11:40:44] <S3> I also tested the
speed of the entire decoder sections, which there are two here, one
for every 16 outputs. its fast enough that before i put in the
buffers I just put in a bunch of nulls and a line of the 5th bit
buffer cells, and the entire decoder pulls down in the same
tick
L2112[11:41:33] <S3> whiall of its 16
outputs (of course once I added the buffers you cant do that
anymore)
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L2115[11:50:09] <dangranos> i wonder what
makes S3 ping
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L2117[11:51:02] <S3> dangranos,
hmm?
L2118[11:52:56] <Wobbo> Foods!
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L2121[11:56:41] <dangranos> hm
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L2126[12:04:57] <Kubuxu> Sangar: we have
memory leak in OC, again.
L2127[12:06:12] <Vexatos> wazntme
L2128[12:06:55] <Kubuxu> marcin212, was
lacking screens yesterday today we have 8k of them in
heapdump.
L2129[12:06:57] *
Lizzy writes "Number 6" on a sticky note and sticks it to
Mimiru's face
L2130[12:07:03] <wirewulf> good ole
memory leaks
L2131[12:07:35] <Sangar> screens
o.O
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L2133[12:07:50] <Kubuxu> Sangar: its with
everything.
L2134[12:07:50] *
DrHoffman gives Kubuxu another screen
L2135[12:07:50] <DrHoffman> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L2136[12:08:00] <Sangar> ?
L2137[12:08:06] <Kubuxu> about 6k of
keyboards , 5k servers and 4k EEPROMs.
L2138[12:08:11] <Sangar> wat
L2139[12:08:36] <Sangar> how big's the
dump? (i.e. can you upload it somewhere?)
L2140[12:08:52] <Kubuxu> 12GB we are
processing it now.
L2141[12:08:57] <Sangar> otherwise can
you screencap the gc root nodes/paths, i.e. what's keeping them
alive?
L2142[12:09:01] <Sangar> mkay...
L2143[12:10:32] *
Vexatos totally didn't read "root nodes" as "root
noodles"
L2144[12:10:34] <Kubuxu> We don't know if
it is new or old as we just started using OC more.
L2145[12:11:23] <Vexatos> Your server
sounds like a lot of fun :P
L2147[12:11:43] <S3> need to fix this one
and make 3 more. of this entire thing
L2148[12:11:44] <Kubuxu> Sangar: its
JNI.
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L2150[12:13:58] <Sangar> can you inspect
variables? if so, could you check if the machine the state belongs
to is closed (lua = null)
L2151[12:14:09] <ThePotato> yay
L2152[12:14:11] <ThePotato> Sangar:
L2153[12:14:24] <Sangar> if not that
means machines aren't properly killed off... which i really don't
know how they wouldn't be :X
L2154[12:14:32] <ThePotato> Sangar: i
would like to request a function
L2155[12:14:47] <ThePotato>
function/useful item for oc
L2156[12:15:00] <Wobbo|AFK> back
L2157[12:15:06] <Sangar> are you using
cauldron or fastcraft or something else that might influence stuff
like invalidate etc? :/
L2158[12:15:08] <Lizzy> wobbafk
L2160[12:15:14] <CompanionCube>
Interesting.
L2161[12:15:29] <ThePotato> Sangar, can i
request an addition to oc?
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L2163[12:15:44] <Sangar> ThePotato, you
can always ask :P
L2164[12:15:51] <Sangar> i reserve the
right to say "nope" :X
L2166[12:16:29] <Kubuxu> Sangar: in which
class the reference to lua is held?
L2167[12:16:36] <ThePotato> Sangar: to
the lua editor you should add the ability to press CTRL+R and it
will run the program being run
L2168[12:16:46] <ThePotato> edited*
L2169[12:16:47] <S3> Kubuxu, github has a
searech!
L2170[12:16:49] <S3> search*
L2171[12:16:54] <Sangar> Kubuxu,
NativeLua52Architecture
L2172[12:16:58] <Sangar> or 53
L2173[12:17:17] <Kubuxu> S3: type lua in
OC's repo. Good luck...
L2175[12:17:33] <ThePotato> does that
sound like a good idea?
L2176[12:17:33] <Sangar> ThePotato,
pretty sure i replied to that already :X my reply was edit is more
like notepad, someone should make a proper ide-ish thing
instead
L2177[12:17:47] <Sangar> to which someone
said gamax92's abstraction layer might be able to run luaide
iirc
L2178[12:18:05] <ThePotato> is there a
way to edit the editor and add it?
L2179[12:18:25] <gamax92> yes, you can
edit the editor in the editor
L2180[12:18:28] <S3> I need to get back
to work on my arch for OC and also gamax92'S ocsYMON
L2181[12:18:29] <Sangar> after you
install openos to a disk you can edit all the files all you
want
L2182[12:18:33] <S3> wow caps lock
L2183[12:18:54] <ThePotato> do you know
the exact dir of it?
L2184[12:19:13] <ThePotato> found
it
L2185[12:19:40] <gamax92> T_T
minecraft
L2186[12:19:45] <Kubuxu> Sangar: its
50/50 nil or reference to LuaStateFiveThree (we are using 5.3
mostly)
L2187[12:19:48] <gamax92> stop loading
the chunks that are furthest away from me
L2188[12:21:17] <ThePotato> ~w
redstone
L2190[12:21:46] <ThePotato> what mod
should i use for bundled output
L2191[12:21:48] <S3> ooh, a doc
bot.
L2192[12:21:54] <gamax92> S3: ooh, a bot
I wrote
L2193[12:21:56] <S3> I wonder if he knows
himself.
L2194[12:22:00] <S3> ~w ocdoc
L2196[12:22:17] <Kubuxu> Sangar: we are
on fastcraft. Hmm, will talk with player he messes anything over
there.
L2197[12:22:26] <Kodos> ThePotato, if
you're not using Project Red with its addon Project Blue, you're
doing it wrong
L2198[12:22:27] <Temia> This robot does
not pass the self-awareness test.
L2199[12:22:38] <ThePotato> which one is
better?
L2200[12:22:42] <ocdoc> Shhh, I'm trying
to hide it.
L2202[12:23:34] <Sangar> Kubuxu, hmm, ok,
thanks. i'll look over the invalidate logic once more in the
meantime :X
L2203[12:23:48] *
Temia hugs ocdoc~
L2204[12:23:57] <Temia> Your secret is
safe with me then :>
L2205[12:24:25] <ThePotato> Kodos: is
there a 1.8 version
L2206[12:24:33] <Kodos> Nope
L2207[12:24:37] <Kodos> Not that I know
of
L2208[12:24:45] <Kodos> Actually, iirc
there's no 1.8 bundled RS mods
L2209[12:24:54] <ThePotato> damn
L2210[12:25:02] <Wobbo> Sangar: Did
LulPeg work in OC?
L2211[12:25:20] <Sangar> Wobbo, pretty
sure i had it working yeah
L2212[12:25:37] <Vexatos> I know CoFHCore
messes with invalidate in some way
L2213[12:25:40] <Wobbo> Nice
L2214[12:25:48] <Vexatos> Not sure if
that only applies to CoFHCore blocks though
L2215[12:28:31] <Wobbo> Sangar: If I feel
like it I might rewrite Besh's parsing coe after my vacation. So
somewhere next month :P
L2216[12:28:38] <Wobbo>
s/coe/code/g
L2217[12:28:39] <Kibibyte> <Wobbo>
Sangar: If I feel like it I might rewrite Besh's parsing code after
my vacation. So somewhere next month :P
L2218[12:29:06] <Sangar> you want to
revive besh? :P it's finally dead!
L2219[12:29:29] <Wobbo> Then I won't
touch it. Didn't know it was dead!
L2220[12:29:34] <Sangar> haha
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L2223[12:30:13] <Sangar> well. i pulled
the piping stuff into regular sh, so it kind of wasn't... that
useful anymore >_> and noone was there to maintain it anyway,
so it died
L2224[12:30:15] <ThePotato-01>
hello
L2225[12:30:31] <Sangar> but you can
always revive it and call it wsh or something ;)
L2226[12:30:54] <vifino> I patched it
every time I installed it :X
L2227[12:31:05] <Temia> Speaking of
which
L2228[12:31:17] <Wobbo> Sangar: Wosh
:P
L2229[12:31:27] <Sangar> :3
L2230[12:31:27] <Vexatos> Wobbo, just add
more patches ti sh.lua
L2231[12:31:31] <Temia> I found out that
hashbangs are supported by OpenOS last night but shell scripts
won't run :<
L2232[12:31:33] <ThePotato-01> does
anyone know a legit os for oc
L2233[12:31:40] <Wobbo> Sangar: Although
I still think nmsh is an excelent name :P
L2234[12:31:41] <ThePotato-01> like with
buttons n shit
L2235[12:31:49] <ThePotato-01> ThePotato:
test
L2236[12:31:52] <ThePotato-01> cool
L2237[12:31:52] <gamax92> ThePotato-01:
so you mean a graphical shell?
L2238[12:31:53] <Vexatos> You mean a
desktop OS?
L2239[12:32:00] <ThePotato-01> yes
gamax92
L2240[12:32:00] <Izaya> ThePotato-01, why
would an OS without buttons be non-legit?
L2241[12:32:11] <Wobbo> Vexatos: sh.lua
should run on the lowest machines, besh didn't, that was the
difference ;)
L2242[12:32:21] <Vexatos> Well
L2243[12:32:22] <Vexatos> uuuh
L2244[12:32:25] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L2245[12:32:26] <ThePotato-01> no, by
legit i mean that its a good one with buttns n shit
L2246[12:32:27] <Vexatos> amirite
L2247[12:32:28] <Temia> Potato must be
the kind of person who runs Windows Server 2008
L2248[12:32:46] <Vexatos> ThePotato, do
you mean that ones without buttons aren't good ones?
L2249[12:32:47] <ThePotato-01> Damn whats
all this hate for
L2250[12:32:47] <Izaya> pfft,
mortals
L2251[12:32:50] <Sangar> openos has kind
of given up on being minimalist :P
L2252[12:32:51] *
Temia haughty laugh~
L2253[12:32:56] <ThePotato-01> i asked a
question
L2254[12:32:57] <Wobbo> Sangar: XD
L2255[12:32:57] <gamax92> Temia: :P
L2256[12:33:05] <Vexatos> ThePotato,
there probably is one in your mind
L2257[12:33:06] *
Izaya silently weeps as he has to maintain a Server 2008 machine or
2
L2258[12:33:08] *
ThePotato-01 cries from all the hatred
L2259[12:33:12] <S3> Temia, windows and
server can not exist in the same sentence.
L2260[12:33:19] <Temia> :>
L2261[12:33:20] <S3> except for that one
^
L2262[12:33:20] <CompanionCube> S3, they
definitely can
L2263[12:33:25] <CompanionCube> although
it should be avoided
L2264[12:33:26] <ThePotato-01> I was just
asking if there was a good os with a gui
L2265[12:33:27] <Wobbo> Sangar: Still, a
full POSIX compliant shell including ifs and whiles might be nice
:P
L2266[12:33:30] <ThePotato-01> damn
L2267[12:33:41] <Izaya> :D I got another
crate delivery!
L2268[12:33:46] <Izaya> This time I got
the bee crate
L2269[12:33:47] <Temia> I am here to
remind you that there is no god and Windows Server exists
L2270[12:33:57] <ThePotato-01> wut
L2271[12:33:58] <Kubuxu> Sangar: we are
not on the newest build so it is not fix for the deadlock.
L2272[12:33:59] <Temia> Wobbo: yes
please
L2273[12:34:02] <gamax92> ThePotato-01:
just because you can't be spoon feed by a graphical shell doesn't
mean the OS isn't good
L2274[12:34:06] <Temia> I want shell
scripting support
L2275[12:34:07] <dangranos> OH NOES!!1
THE BEES ARE ATTACKING!
L2276[12:34:11] <ThePotato-01> im not
saying that
L2277[12:34:12] <S3> CompanionCube, as an
experienced sysadmin, I declare heresey on you! XD
L2278[12:34:13] <Kodos> Izaya, you need
to use the particle card to make flares, and do airdrops a la
Rust
L2279[12:34:19] <S3> lolol.
L2280[12:34:24] <Wobbo> Temia: As a said
maybe next month
L2281[12:34:26] <ThePotato-01> i was just
asking if there was one that i could play around witih
L2282[12:34:26] <Izaya> Kodos, I'm using
/deliverAmazon
L2283[12:34:27] <CompanionCube> S3,
imagine if you had to use Windows ME as your box
L2284[12:34:31] <Temia> <3
L2285[12:34:33] *
S3 screams
L2286[12:34:34] <Kodos> Yes, but it can
deliver to coordinates and just dump items
L2287[12:34:41] <Kodos> So do that, but
also spawn particles
L2288[12:34:57] <Izaya> Sounds fun, I
might do that soon
L2289[12:35:04] <S3> CompanionCube, an
operating system written by drunk people. At first it sounds neat,
until you hear M$
L2290[12:35:06] <Kodos> Just like, within
50 blocks of a player's position
L2291[12:35:14] ***
Vexatos is now known as Vex|Laptop
L2292[12:35:21] <CompanionCube> S3, were
the drunk people at the ballmer peak?
L2293[12:35:30] <Kodos> Then you could
just 'airdrop("Playernamehere")
L2294[12:35:32] <S3> I highly doubt
it
L2295[12:35:52] <Izaya> CompanionCube,
no, they just gave them two crates of goon each and two days to
write the OS
L2296[12:35:53] <CompanionCube> S3, I
surprisingly have a stable vista install
L2297[12:36:05]
⇦ Quits: ThePotato-01
(~thepotato@68-185-232-89.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com) (Quit:
ThePotato-01)
L2298[12:36:06] <CompanionCube> iirc it
dates from 2009
L2299[12:36:22] <Temia> That IS
amazing.
L2300[12:36:36] *
S3 runs away
L2301[12:36:39] <CompanionCube> It has
never been reinstalled.
L2302[12:36:52] <Temia> When I tried to
run Vista way back when, it went into a spiralling death an hour
in.
L2303[12:36:56]
⇦ Quits: S3 (~S3@216-220-250-118.midmaine.com) (Quit:
Leaving)
L2304[12:36:58] <CompanionCube> And it
started out on McAfee before having that replaced with
Norton.
L2305[12:37:06] <Temia> ...
L2306[12:37:19] <Temia> it must burn for
its contamination.
L2307[12:37:28] *
Temia lights match. +_+
L2308[12:37:51] <Lizzy> welp, my sisters
having a late 16th birthday party, need to go hijack the
shower
L2309[12:37:57] <Sangar> Kubuxu, that
should be fine, don't think that's related
L2310[12:37:58] <CompanionCube> Temia,
contamination of what?
L2311[12:38:07] <Temia> Norton.
L2312[12:38:28] <CompanionCube> Temia, it
gets weirde
L2313[12:38:42] <CompanionCube> The
install was the one that came with the box. Hence, there was some
bloatware.
L2314[12:39:22]
⇨ Joins: S3
(~bhodgins@216-220-250-118.midmaine.com)
L2315[12:39:36] <S3> phew.
L2316[12:39:42] <CompanionCube> S3,
<CompanionCube>
And it started out on McAfee before having
that replaced with Norton.
L2317[12:39:50] <CompanionCube> with
regards to the vista install
L2319[12:40:09] <S3> why would you ever
even touch norton..
L2320[12:40:18] <CompanionCube> I didn't
buy it.
L2322[12:40:26] <S3> The best AV is NO
AV!
L2324[12:40:29] <CompanionCube> But it
was still an improvement over McAfee.
L2325[12:40:38] <LadyAlissa> S3: the best
AV is a yearly system wipe :D
L2326[12:40:44] <gamax92> the best AV is
V
L2327[12:40:44] <S3> LadyAlissa:
...
L2328[12:40:48] <Izaya> I'm told the most
effective AV is Common Sense 2015
L2329[12:40:50] <LadyAlissa> and probably
a monthly $HOME wipe :D
L2330[12:41:09] <Wobbo> gamax92: The best
AV is ^V
L2331[12:41:10] <LadyAlissa> i need to
clean out my $HOME
L2332[12:41:14] <gamax92> fill your
computer with so many viruses, the other viruses go "Woah, I'm
outta here"
L2333[12:41:20] <LadyAlissa> it's like
34G right now
L2334[12:41:30] <vifino> Izaya's right,
best AV is Common Sense Pro 2015
L2335[12:41:33] <S3> yay for
${HOME}
L2336[12:41:33] <CompanionCube> The best
AV is mounting the root filesystem as tmpfs
L2337[12:41:36] <Wobbo> I use ClamXAV. It
never found a virus
L2338[12:41:41] <ThePotato> how do i
target players with a robot/drone
L2339[12:41:45] <CompanionCube> you can
get infected, but any viruses will disappear on reboot
L2340[12:41:56] <Wobbo> CompanionCube: As
does $HOME
L2341[12:42:01] <S3> clamav isn'
L2342[12:42:04] <S3> isn't too too
bad
L2343[12:42:04] <Temia> Or, just, y'know,
ro
L2344[12:42:29] <CompanionCube> Temia,
eh. tmpfs would allow shit to be fooled into thinking it
worked
L2345[12:42:29] <ThePotato> ~w
robot
L2347[12:42:47] <Temia> Why would you
want that?
L2348[12:43:10] <gamax92> ^
L2349[12:43:14] <Izaya> Woo, next crate
drop soon :D
L2350[12:43:21] <Temia> It gives it the
opportunity to work until the reboot.
L2351[12:43:22] <ThePotato> how do i
target a player with a robot
L2352[12:43:42] <S3> dd if=/dev/zero
of=/dev/ada0p5
L2353[12:43:45] <S3> oops wrong
window
L2354[12:43:51] <S3> meant to do that in
my shell
L2355[12:43:59] <S3> gotta wipe /
somehow..
L2356[12:44:09] <Izaya> ada0p5?
L2357[12:44:26] <S3> yes.
L2358[12:44:33] <S3> that's my root
partition
L2359[12:44:35] <Izaya> the fuck is
that?
L2360[12:44:40] <Izaya> what happened to
sda1?
L2361[12:44:44] <ThePotato> no one?
L2362[12:45:18] <Izaya> you'll need to
get an upgrade that allows getting the relative coordinates with a
robot
L2363[12:45:33] <Izaya> then move the
robot closer to the player
L2364[12:45:40] <S3> Izaya: it's the ada
driver, disk 0 partition 5
L2365[12:45:46] ***
Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L2366[12:45:54] <Skye> ada?
L2367[12:46:45] <S3> yes? it's ATA with
direct access, via say DMI
L2368[12:46:52] <ThePotato> ~oc
navigation upgrade
L2370[12:46:53] <S3> no different than
what your system would do
L2371[12:47:01] <Izaya> TIL
L2372[12:47:05] <Izaya> you're using an
IDE drive?
L2374[12:47:22] <S3> SATA
L2375[12:47:23] <dangranos> dis gon be
gud
L2376[12:47:30] <CompanionCube> Isn't ATA
generically used for anything from that family
L2377[12:47:35] <DrHoffman> .p
L2378[12:47:35] <CompanionCube> be it
IDE, EIDE, SATA-x
L2379[12:47:46] <S3> SATA is ATA too
:P
L2380[12:47:52] <S3> not just IDE
L2381[12:47:54] <dangranos> but isn't
usually sata a /dev/sd* ?
L2382[12:47:54] <ThePotato> ok now how do
i get the players pos
L2383[12:48:38] <Temia> Most drives in
general are.
L2384[12:48:41] <S3> dangranos: nowadays
on Linux so isn't IDE sd*
L2385[12:49:01] <S3> its because of the
scsi crap they added back in 2.6
L2386[12:49:01] <dangranos> what?
L2387[12:49:04] <S3> or whatever
L2388[12:49:11] <Temia> Used to be that
IDE had hd* but those days are looong gone
L2389[12:49:16] <dangranos> what sd* is
used for?
L2390[12:49:19] <S3> Temia: yep
L2391[12:49:20] <dangranos> IDE?
L2392[12:49:25] <CompanionCube> didn't
they merge IDE/SATA/SCSI into the same subsystem?
L2393[12:49:27] *
gamax92 still runs a system with a proud hda1 as root
L2394[12:49:29] <Temia> Yeah
L2395[12:49:33] <S3> CompanionCube:
exactly
L2396[12:49:39] <dangranos> gamax92, dis
gon be gud on update
L2397[12:49:40] <S3> thats why IDE sata
and scsi are all sd*
L2398[12:49:47] <gamax92> pfft, update?
hah
L2399[12:49:48] <S3> since like 2.6.17 or
so
L2400[12:49:55] <S3> somewhere around
then
L2401[12:49:57] <dangranos> gamax92, ...
uname -a pls
L2402[12:50:00] <Izaya> gamax92, I have a
system with a Ultra160 SCSI drive
L2403[12:50:04] <Izaya> or rather
L2404[12:50:04] <Izaya> 4
L2405[12:50:09] <Izaya> 36GB 15k
RPM
L2406[12:50:11] <gamax92> >_>
dangranos, this involves firing it up and waiting like 2 minutes
for boot
L2407[12:50:17] <S3> Izaya: I have 7 of
those in my dual 1Ghz PIII box
L2409[12:50:21] <dangranos> gamax92,
dooooh it
L2410[12:50:25] <S3> each 36.7GB
L2411[12:50:33] <S3> ultra160s were the
stuff.
L2412[12:50:35] <CompanionCube> dd
if=/dev/mem of=/dev/sda
L2413[12:50:42] <CompanionCube>
overwriting your HDD with your RAM
L2414[12:50:45] <dangranos> nah,
L2415[12:50:45] <Izaya> S3, I have 4x
36GB in my 128MiB dual PIII 1.133Ghz box
L2416[12:50:53] <S3> okay fine, I'll do a
uname -a..
L2417[12:50:55] <S3> FreeBSD
10.1-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p6 #0: Tue Feb 24 19:00:21 UTC
2015
root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
amd64
L2418[12:50:55] <dangranos> dd
if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/mem
L2419[12:51:04] <dangranos> dis gon be
gud i guess
L2420[12:51:11] <CompanionCube> no
L2421[12:51:12] <reinei> CompanionCube:
if your RAM contains a nice image, why not?
L2422[12:51:17] <CompanionCube> dd
if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/kmem
L2423[12:51:21] <dangranos> ...now i want
to fire up a vm and test it
L2424[12:51:29] <S3> dangranos: you see I
don't use Linux :P
L2425[12:51:31] <dangranos>
CompanionCube, care to butcher up a vm for that?
L2426[12:51:34] <S3> I'm a BSD user
L2427[12:51:45] <dangranos> S3, still
*nix-like
L2428[12:51:47] <^v> Ping reply from
DrHoffman 252.22s
L2429[12:51:47] <CompanionCube>
dangranos, one way of doing it
L2430[12:51:53] <Izaya> I had a lovely
conversation with a BSD user the other day
L2431[12:51:58] <S3> dangranos: it's a
lot more unix like if you think of it
L2432[12:51:59] <CompanionCube> is kernel
memory roulette and flipping bytes one at a time
L2433[12:52:03] <dangranos> BSD in
*nix-like, right?
L2434[12:52:05] <DrHoffman> Oh my fucking
god
L2435[12:52:07] <CompanionCube> Winner is
the box that panics last/
L2436[12:52:11] <dangranos>
s/-like//
L2437[12:52:11] <Kibibyte>
<dangranos> BSD in *nix, right?
L2438[12:52:16] <DrHoffman> .p
L2439[12:52:17] <^v> Ping reply from
DrHoffman 0.9s
L2440[12:52:21] <dangranos> s/n/s/
L2441[12:52:21] <Kibibyte> <^v>
Pisg reply from DrHoffman 0.9s
L2442[12:52:22] <S3> FreeBSD and NetBSD
descend from 4.4 BSD, and BSD is a direct decendant, a rewrite per
function of AT&T Unix.
L2443[12:52:23] <dangranos> .fail
L2444[12:52:23] <^v> dangranos, [10]
katt's girlfriend, ping
L2445[12:52:25] <DrHoffman> .-.
L2446[12:52:27] <dangranos> .fail
L2447[12:52:27] <^v> dangranos, [58]
JoshTheEnder
L2448[12:52:40] <DrHoffman> rekt
L2449[12:52:41] <DrHoffman> .fail
L2450[12:52:42] <^v> DrHoffman, [58]
JoshTheEnder
L2451[12:52:42] <S3> back from when ken
thompson brought unix to Berkeley university :)
L2452[12:52:46] <DrHoffman> meh
L2453[12:52:48] <CompanionCube> OSX is
also descended from BSD in a bastardised manner.
L2454[12:52:49] <dangranos> .fail
L2455[12:52:49] <^v> dangranos, [62]
<Vexatos> Should I make it a gist or just put it on my repo
<EndersGame> put it in your repo, or do a gist. dik
L2456[12:53:00] <gamax92> Linux
bart.(fuckno) 2.4.18 #1 SMP Sun Sep 21 11:46:49 MDT 2014 i486
unknown
L2457[12:53:14] <dangranos> ah, the times
when ender was... ender
L2458[12:53:16] <S3> yeah, OSX runs on
Darwin and Mach, and Darwin is a decendant of NetBSD with a lot of
FreeBSD derivations as well.
L2459[12:53:38] *
CompanionCube thinks of OSX as the bastard child of nextstep and
the BSDs
L2460[12:53:46] <S3> ahaha
L2461[12:54:05] <gamax92> I tried to get
2.6 to work but it fails horridly
L2462[12:54:21] <S3> CompanionCube: I
never looked too hard into OSX that much, but there's some crazy
black magic and sorcery shit going on between darwin and
mach..
L2463[12:54:23] <ThePotato> how would i
do interaction between cc and oc?
L2465[12:54:31] <S3> stuff Apple should
not be doing
L2466[12:54:37] <dangranos> ThePotato,
you dont?
L2467[12:54:43] <ThePotato> ok
L2468[12:54:46] <ThePotato> fair
enough
L2469[12:54:48] <S3> ThePotato: many
ways! one way is to glue a modem in between with an adaptor
L2470[12:54:48] <dangranos> ThePotato,
well, just hook it directly actually
L2471[12:54:54] *
gamax92 slaps dangranos
L2472[12:54:55] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L2473[12:55:05] <dangranos> ThePotato,
but why?
L2474[12:55:13] <ThePotato> just
testing
L2475[12:55:18] <dangranos> Why have you
betrayed us?
L2476[12:55:20] <S3> they can network
together just fine
L2477[12:55:29] <CompanionCube> S3, it
has a single-user mode at least. And it's own init daemon. And god
knows whatelse
L2478[12:55:38] <gamax92> dangranos: shut
up with your bullshit, nobody wants to hear it, if people want to
use CC and OC together then let them do so
L2479[12:55:55] <dangranos> gamax92,
okay
L2480[12:56:35] <gamax92> I hate it when
people do that, ask a question and instead of getting an answer you
get people who are like, maybe you should rethink this or do this
instead or blah blah blah not answering question blah
L2481[12:56:44] <S3> CompanionCube: the
one thing I didn't mind too much about OSX was that when I did go
into single user mode to help people back when I used to do repair
/ help desk work etc, I didn't have to specify what partitions and
such to check during a filesystem check, etc if it concerned the
main system
L2482[12:56:49] <S3> FreeBSD does the
same thing iirc
L2483[12:57:02] <dangranos> i probably
should go to sleep before i get banned either in #oc or
#computercraft or both, or elsewhere
L2484[12:57:03] <S3> but I was like, I
dgaf what mac calls its dev nodes
L2486[12:57:48] <S3> by the way you *nix
guys out there.
L2487[12:57:59] <S3> the other day I read
a very concerning article on the Internet
L2488[12:58:05] <dangranos> about?
L2489[12:58:36] <vifino> I like Darwin
and part of OSX, but many things UI annoy the crap out of me.
L2490[12:59:18] <S3> Somebody asked me if
I could install npm on one of their servers, so I looked into npm,
and there's this great big article on the node blog right? some
crazy guy was saying that sudo was wrong, and the correct solution
around sudo was to chown -R /usr/local to that user who wants to
use npm.
L2491[12:59:39] <dangranos> uh
L2492[12:59:39] <S3> in his howto
L2493[12:59:57] <Wobbo> That is also what
homebrew does
L2494[13:00:00] <dangranos> what if 2
users want to do that?
L2495[13:00:13] <CompanionCube>
dangranos, groups...i guess
L2496[13:00:16] <Sangar> ThePotato,
switch next to cc computer converts oc network messages to cc modem
events and provides a 'modem' peripheral that allow sending network
messages to oc, as well as access oc components as peripherals.
adapter next to cc peripheral allows using it from oc.
L2497[13:00:17] <Wobbo> For a single user
system it is not that dangerous.
L2498[13:00:35] <dangranos> Wobbo,
hm?
L2499[13:00:46] <dangranos> it
isn't?
L2500[13:00:57] <ThePotato> damn Sangar
thats intense
L2501[13:01:03] <Wobbo> Homebrew, one of
the OS X package managers does the same, I haven't had problems
with it sofar
L2502[13:01:03] <dangranos> i dont think
messing with permissions for */*bin is good
L2503[13:01:12] <vifino> I do the same,
hate it or don't, I like to store my programs there.
L2504[13:01:18] <Wobbo> Why not?
L2505[13:01:30] <ThePotato> ~oc gpu
L2507[13:01:33] <S3> dangranos: dangerous
and breaking installed software that depends on permissions being
in a certain fashion are two different things.
L2508[13:01:50] <dangranos> also, lack of
any management
L2509[13:01:59] <dangranos> no?
L2510[13:02:05] <Temia> Well, even in the
event of screwing something horribly up, initramfs environments are
surprisingly robust recovery tools.
L2511[13:02:11] <CompanionCube> I once
saw someone trying to use chmod -R on /etc
L2513[13:02:17] ***
Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off
L2514[13:02:23] <Wobbo> Why would
software DEPEND on the permissions in /usr/local? O_o
L2515[13:02:27] <dangranos> if you just
give rw access to *bin you are just inviting every single shit to
install itself
L2516[13:02:27] <CompanionCube> because
he couldn't acess the apache2 config
L2517[13:02:39] <S3> Temia: initrds are
nice.
L2518[13:03:06] <dangranos> seriosly,
having rw user permissions on system dirs is just.. wrong
L2519[13:03:12] <Wobbo> dangranos:
Normally, I only install software that I want, using my package
manager. And yes, I install into /usr/local
L2520[13:03:24] <dangranos> you wouldn't
give rw to /boot and /dev to users, would you?
L2521[13:03:34] <Wobbo> dangranos: Did we
defile your precious FileSystem? :P
L2522[13:03:48] <Wobbo> No, but I don't
write to /boot or /dev
L2523[13:03:56] <S3> yeah I always
specify /usr/local as a prefix when I compile anything
L2524[13:04:12] <vifino> dangranos:
/usr/local isn't the same as /usr or /boot.
L2525[13:04:13] <dangranos> Wobbo, that
was worst and (not) perverted joke-like thing
L2526[13:04:28] *
Temia writes to /dev! ...when flashing cards. `3`
L2527[13:04:31] <ThePotato> is there a
way to have a server use a screen instead of the terminal
L2528[13:04:40] <CompanionCube> Temia, I
write to /dev/sda5
L2529[13:04:46] <CompanionCube> when
writing any file
L2530[13:04:54] <Temia> Ssshh
L2531[13:05:12] <Wobbo> Temia: is that a
new version of ssh?
L2532[13:05:15] <S3> I do think ThePotato
has a point. I think it would be nice to have one of those slide
out rack mounted monitors for OC for the server racks
L2533[13:05:18] <S3> with a built in
KVM
L2534[13:05:36] <ThePotato> just so i can
access nicely
L2535[13:05:37] <reinei> so bored
L2536[13:05:39] <S3> I know that's a bit
much but
L2537[13:05:48] <Temia> that reminds
me.
L2538[13:05:48] <S3> I think it would be
a decent feature.
L2539[13:06:12] <Temia> I should see
about writing an OC remote shell
L2540[13:06:16] *
dangranos would like shift-click to get a server rack open/closed
and rightclick to slide it back and forth, right click on open to
eject
L2541[13:06:46] <dangranos> eh
L2542[13:06:51] <S3> I just came up with
an idea, see if anyone doesn't like this:
L2543[13:07:04] <reinei> me!
L2544[13:07:05] <ThePotato> how do i
change the name of a hdd
L2545[13:07:08] <reinei> what was it
again?
L2546[13:07:14] <gamax92> I need to calm
down ... bbl
L2547[13:07:17] <S3> what if I made a Lua
arch thats the same as the one that OC has already, except that it
has "virtualization"
L2548[13:07:20] <Temia> It'd be useful!
Esp for OC/CC users if I made it compatible with Lyqyd's nsh
L2549[13:07:20] <dangranos> i dont think
sangar would do something like gui-less server rack (emphasis on
rack) management
L2550[13:07:25] <S3> and has multiple lua
threads
L2551[13:07:45] <ThePotato> lol
L2552[13:07:45] <S3> so you could run Lua
VPSs at a lower level than Lua code
L2553[13:07:57] <S3> or at least how it
is managed
L2554[13:07:59] <Mimiru> use OS's KVM and
a monitor/keyboard :P
L2555[13:08:11] <dangranos> ThePotato,
you cant change an UUID, as for name (label?), look into hdd's
api
L2556[13:08:14] <dangranos> *fs api
L2557[13:08:19] <ThePotato> ~fs
L2558[13:08:22] <ThePotato> ~w fs
L2560[13:08:22] <dangranos>
*component.filesystem
L2561[13:08:33] <S3> I guess nobody likes
my luavirt cpu idea :( hehe
L2562[13:08:55] <reinei> S3 I just
wouldn't use it, I have yet to write an actual line for OC
L2564[13:09:02] <dangranos> here
L2565[13:09:15] <S3> right, but I wonder
if anyone would use it..
L2566[13:09:20] <dangranos> MAYBE there
is already label program
L2567[13:09:22] <dangranos> dunno
actually
L2568[13:09:24] <ThePotato> S3: i have
been working on something where the client broadcasts a function
name and the server executes it
L2569[13:09:33] <S3> neat
L2570[13:09:43] <S3> ThePotato: that is
called RPC
L2572[13:09:57] <vifino> S3: I like your
idea. I also bugged Sangar about compute blocks :/
L2573[13:09:58] <ThePotato> nice
L2574[13:10:01] <dangranos> ooh, thin
clients?
L2575[13:10:28] <dangranos> ThePotato,
can you wrap it up so we can share components completely between
computers?
L2576[13:10:43] <S3> vifino: if I could
make the cpu have functions you could execute on a component (is
that possible?) then I could allow you to use the API of the cpu to
control entirely seperate instances of Lua that all act as OC
computers, but are virtual
L2577[13:10:54] <ThePotato> dangranos:
explain sorry :(
L2578[13:11:02] <S3> and the ammount of
RAM etc is partitioned
L2579[13:11:13] <S3> so you could run so
many VMs per ammount of ram etc
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L2581[13:12:10] <dangranos> ThePotato,
wrapper for remote components so they apper like they are on
client, so functions are called on "client" computer from
wrapper and executed on "host/server" computer which then
returns results (or references to functions for wrapper)
L2582[13:12:22] <S3> I don't think I
could prevent one system from accessing a component or something
though when another system was
L2583[13:12:33] <S3> so you'd have to do
networked semaphores and spinlocks or something
L2584[13:12:45] <ThePotato> thats what im
trying to do so there not a shit ton of code for a bunch of users
:D
L2585[13:12:53] <reinei> S3, if you were
to either inject code into, or somehow funnel all access through
yourself you could
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L2587[13:13:19] <S3> I suppose. reinei
the best way imo would be to somehow make a proxy man in the middle
to the component calls.
L2588[13:13:32] <reinei> yep, what I
meant
L2589[13:13:39] <S3> yeah
L2590[13:13:44] <S3> and then a vm could
request the cpu to "lock" it
L2591[13:13:48] <Izaya> and by
extension
L2592[13:13:52] <Izaya> you could then
log component calls?
L2593[13:14:03] <Kodos> Really hope ACB
looks into my feature request :3
L2594[13:14:06] <S3> you could but I
dunno why you'd bother
L2595[13:14:27] <S3> ut no, if a Luavirt
cpu is what people would like to see I'd write one
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L2597[13:14:36] *
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L2598[13:14:37] <Izaya> S3, so I can run
a VPS place and monitor all the data and MiTM encryption
L2599[13:14:38] <S3> it wou;dn't be that
difficult I would think
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L2601[13:14:55] <S3> Izaya: yeah the only
problem I see
L2602[13:15:12] <S3> is the
monitors.
L2603[13:15:13] <gamax92> S3: Best way to
make a terminal screensaver so my CRT doesn't violent explode or
something
L2604[13:15:16] <gamax92> ?
L2605[13:15:28] <S3> however, I could
make it so that only the host or privileged vps can print to the
monitor
L2606[13:15:28] <Izaya> monitors?
L2607[13:15:33] <S3> the screens
L2608[13:15:42] <S3> you couldnt have two
vps's talk to the same screen
L2609[13:15:49] <S3> I could make a
pty
L2610[13:15:54] <S3> in the cpu
itself
L2611[13:16:11] <Izaya> S3, make it so
you can display and interface with the VPS but a key returns to the
host
L2612[13:16:13] <S3> so that in the host
you can access the machine on your screen like gpu pages or
something
L2613[13:16:58] <S3> I might be able to
do something like that. Again, it may require an extra program to
be installed to OpenOS
L2615[13:17:25] <S3> if it were allowed,
I could distribute in the addon mod a patched OpenOS disk, but I
don't think anyone would like it if I did that.
L2616[13:17:48] <S3> like an OpenOS
floppy with virt support
L2617[13:17:53] <Izaya> just stick
something in oppm
L2618[13:18:05] <S3> oppm?
L2619[13:18:12] <gamax92> OpenPrograms
Package Manager
L2620[13:18:14] <Izaya> open programs
package manager
L2622[13:18:17] <Wobbo> The package
manager for openos
L2623[13:18:21] <S3> I didn't realize
that existed!
L2624[13:18:22] <Izaya> tl;dr package
manager included in the mod
L2626[13:18:32] <S3> sure. that's
perfect.
L2627[13:18:33] <Izaya> just have a
virt-support mod
L2628[13:18:38] <Izaya>
s/mod/package
L2629[13:18:38] <Kibibyte> <Izaya>
just have a virt-support package
L2630[13:19:05] <S3> of course the
luavirt cpu is still 100% capable of running openos without anyt
virt features etc
L2631[13:19:08] <S3> and you'd never
notice.
L2632[13:19:19] <S3> the package would
just add the commands to tell the cpu what to do
L2633[13:19:29] *
Temia ponders a Vert support package...
L2634[13:19:45] *
Temia ...tilts her head. That's just a bra. .-.
L2635[13:20:00] <reinei> what?!
L2636[13:20:26] <S3> so yeah this mod is
actually quite simple. all I really need to do is figure out how as
a cpu arch I can add callable functions as a component to the
computer.
L2637[13:20:29] <S3> which I have never
done
L2638[13:21:03] <S3> other than that I
might be able to just inherit the Lua architecture and make the
modifications.
L2639[13:22:09] <reinei> hey Temia,
Althought he person with a name starting with a C and ending in
ruor isn't here, you got any Anime recommendations?
L2640[13:22:31] <Temia> Bodacious Space
Pirates.
L2641[13:22:32] <S3> What should I name
this mod?
L2642[13:22:33] <Vex|Laptop> You mean
Cruor? <3
L2643[13:22:38] <S3> not that it
matters..
L2644[13:22:43] <Izaya> S3, VT-l
L2645[13:22:54] <S3> not bad
L2646[13:22:58] <Izaya> Virtualization
Technology for Lua
L2647[13:22:59] <Temia> also sorry. I am
very addlebrained from lack of caffeine
L2648[13:23:03] <Izaya> also a play on
VT-x/VT-d
L2649[13:23:06] <Temia> and I have
friends and family who play Neptunia
L2650[13:23:15] <gamax92> I have a
headache
L2651[13:23:16] <S3> right
L2652[13:23:27] <Temia> So my mind can
easily wander in that direction when undergoing local
free-association =.=
L2653[13:24:45] <reinei> Vex|Laptop:
yeah, but its more fun to have other people ping him for me
L2654[13:24:57] <Vex|Laptop> Exactly
<3
L2655[13:25:02] <Vex|Laptop> Cruor,
shrobot when
L2656[13:25:24] <Kodos> Wouldn't it just
be shobot
L2657[13:25:55] <Vex|Laptop>
probably
L2658[13:26:34] <ThePotato> Sangar: you
still here?
L2659[13:30:03] <S3> Izaya: this is
actually a great project for me to prepare to further my RPC
arch
L2660[13:31:46] <Izaya> I'm totally for a
Lua arch with virtualization
L2661[13:31:48] <Kubuxu> Sangar: we have
gziped the dump to 700MB do you want it?
L2662[13:31:53] <Izaya> could even use it
for SMP
L2663[13:32:11] <Kubuxu> 12GB to 700MB
couldn't be better.
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L2665[13:33:54] <Pwootage> ok it's
officially time to write that redstone-focused microarch I've been
meaning to write for ages
L2666[13:35:53] <S3> Izaya: I dunno how
you'd use SMP with it
L2667[13:35:57] <Sangar> Kubuxu,
sure
L2668[13:36:03] <Sangar> ThePotato, more
or less
L2669[13:36:11] <Kubuxu> Sangar: sent on
PM>
L2670[13:36:12] <S3> Izaya: but does OC
let you add more than one CPU? I didn't think so
L2672[13:36:45] <Sangar> Kubuxu, thanks,
loading
L2673[13:36:59] <Temia> Treat component
buses as extra cores maybe?
L2674[13:37:00] <Sangar> ThePotato,
update to dev build
L2675[13:37:05] <Sangar> should be fixed
there
L2676[13:37:09] <Izaya> S3, simple, I
send the virtual CPUs a program and they run it.
L2677[13:37:22] <S3> I see. I do need a
list of features..
L2678[13:38:25] <Kubuxu> Sangar: before
loading it preparate a bit of swap.
L2679[13:38:38] <Kubuxu> It will be
loading 12GB+ into RAM.
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L2681[13:39:23] <Kubuxu> We do taht on
our dedicated(36GB) via remote Xserver
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L2683[13:39:51] <S3> I do have a real
question now.
L2684[13:40:03] <S3> wait no it should be
easy
L2685[13:40:15] <S3> I was curious how
easy it would be to make a "virtual component"
L2686[13:40:26] <S3> it would be no
different
L2687[13:40:38] <S3> a component doesn't
have to be physical, right?
L2688[13:40:59] <Kubuxu> S3: it was
already done few times.
L2689[13:41:03] <reinei> you mean
scala/Java wise?
L2690[13:41:08] <S3> yeah.
L2691[13:41:20] <reinei> how should OC
know if it WAS physical?
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L2693[13:41:33] <Kubuxu> I thoght you
ment Lua side.
L2694[13:41:38] <reinei> it only knows
about its Interfaces if it was written OK
L2695[13:42:08] <S3> well it doesn't have
to know.
L2696[13:42:17] <reinei> also, what do
you think could go wrong if it WASN'T physical but OC thought it
WAS?
L2697[13:42:17] <S3> I was just thinking
of some implementatiom methods
L2698[13:42:32] <S3> for example, maybe
all VPSs should appear as components to the privileged VPS.
L2699[13:42:40] <S3> with a few commands
to handle them
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L2703[13:49:56] <Sangar> Kubuxu, that'll
be fun :X dl complete btw
L2704[13:50:32] <Kubuxu> Like I've said,
make sure you have about 16GB of free RAM+Swap
L2705[13:55:45] <S3> okay Izaya,
vifino
L2707[13:55:50] <S3> if you have some
time
L2708[13:55:59] <S3> this is what I came
up with
L2709[13:57:29] <Izaya> so
L2710[13:57:52] <Izaya> unprivelaged
guests are only given access to the components the privelaged
guests allocate them?
L2711[13:58:28] <S3> I figured that would
be a good feature to add to enable, but I do want this cpu to work
fine without anything complex
L2712[13:58:35] <S3> so I think that by
default vms should see all of em
L2713[13:58:47] <S3> unless the
privileged one before hand says, hey I have a "component
policy"
L2714[13:58:51] <S3> what do you
think?
L2715[13:59:05] <S3> so by default
everything is open.
L2716[13:59:12] <Izaya> also, perhaps
have 'cores' so the T1 can run one virtual, (2 cores), the T2 can
run 2 virtual (3 cores) and the T3 can run 4 VMs?
L2717[13:59:15] <S3> vms and hosts can
access all the same components. no extra programming
L2718[13:59:16] <Izaya> that would work I
guess
L2719[13:59:29] <S3> hmm.
L2720[13:59:36] <S3> the other issye
Izaya is RAM limitation
L2721[13:59:45] <S3> if you have lets say
a random number
L2722[13:59:47] <S3> 1 ZB of ram
L2723[14:00:03] <S3> you should only be
able to fit 1ZB of ram to VMs alltogether and the host.
L2724[14:00:24] <gamax92> Why do you have
a ZettaByte of ram
L2725[14:00:28] <ThePotato> i wanna build
a super computer in oc
L2727[14:00:39] <S3> ThePotato: VT-l
would help this
L2728[14:01:06] <ThePotato> wuts
dat
L2729[14:01:20] <S3> ThePotato: have you
not listened to us for the past half hour?
L2731[14:01:28] <ThePotato> nope
L2732[14:01:32] <ThePotato> lololol
L2733[14:02:02] <Wobbo> To much text S3,
to much text :P
L2735[14:02:24] <S3> I'll paste in a
sec
L2737[14:03:28] <S3> ThePotato: ^
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L2740[14:05:12] <S3> I do not think I
will do this, but should this be a server only processor? Izaya
^
L2741[14:05:59] <ThePotato>
.jenkins
L2742[14:06:02] <Pwootage> Hm, is there
an easy way to make every machine with a specific arch enabled have
a t2 redstone card, without making a custom CPU item?
L2743[14:06:03] <EnderBot2> Latest
builds:
ICBMComponent: #22 |
OpenLights1.7: #18 |
OpenSecurity: #57 |
OpenComputersDev: #705 |
OpenPrinter: #79 |
OpenComputers: #39 |
OpenLights: #20 |
OpenGlasses: #47 |
OpenPrinter1.7: #120
L2744[14:06:05] <ThePotato> whats the
command
L2745[14:07:14] <PotatoTrumpet> %weather
Fort Worth
L2746[14:07:14] <MichiBot> PotatoTrumpet:
Current weather for Fort Worth, United States Of America Current
Temp: 97°F/36°C Feels Like: 100°F/38°C Current Humidity: 33 Wind:
From the SSE 6 Mph/9 Km/h Conditions: Sunny
L2747[14:07:22] <PotatoTrumpet>
:<
L2748[14:07:38] <PotatoTrumpet>
100f
L2749[14:07:40] <PotatoTrumpet> y
L2750[14:07:47] <PotatoTrumpet> y must I
live in texas
L2751[14:07:55] <Mimiru> let's see
L2752[14:07:57] <Izaya> S3, my i3 4160
has VT-x and is in a standard desktop
L2753[14:07:58] <Mimiru> %weather
72396
L2754[14:07:59] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Current weather for 72396 Current Temp: 93°F/34°C Feels Like:
108°F/42°C Current Humidity: 60 Wind: From the N 9 Mph/15 Km/h
Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L2755[14:08:07] <Mimiru> K.
L2756[14:08:11] <Izaya> VT-l should be
available for desktops
L2757[14:08:13] <Temia> %weather
98144
L2758[14:08:14] <MichiBot> Temia: Current
weather for 98144 Current Temp: 63°F/17°C Feels Like: 63°F/17°C
Current Humidity: 68 Wind: From the ENE 8 Mph/13 Km/h Conditions:
Overcast
L2759[14:08:19] <Izaya> but perhaps have
a grade of server-only processors?
L2760[14:08:20] <Temia> woooo \o/
L2761[14:09:02] <S3> Izaya: yeah.. should
we make it so that servers get like added benefits then?
L2762[14:09:06] <S3> like more VPSs or
something
L2763[14:09:10] <Izaya> yeah
L2764[14:09:26] <Izaya> Like, a Xeon can
have up to 18 physical cores
L2765[14:09:33] <Izaya> while the best
desktop processor is 4
L2766[14:09:53] <PotatoTrumpet> %weather
New South Whales
L2767[14:09:54] <MichiBot> PotatoTrumpet:
Current weather for New South Whales Current Temp: 83°F/29°C Feels
Like: 94°F/34°C Current Humidity: 83 Wind: From the SE 5 Mph/8 Km/h
Conditions: Clear
L2768[14:09:55] <S3> maybe I should also
make a BIOS or something you can go into and toggle some
settings
L2769[14:09:59] <S3> just for extra
features sake
L2770[14:10:46] <Wobbo> Mimiru: What
location is 98144
L2771[14:10:48] <S3> Izaya: whatever I
do, I DO want to make a screen branding, where when you boot your
machine it shows a great big VT-l logo
L2772[14:10:52] <S3> showing you have
virt support
L2773[14:10:59] <S3> before openos
boots
L2774[14:11:06] <Mimiru> Wobbo, no
idea..?
L2775[14:11:13] <Mimiru> google it!
L2776[14:11:22] <Mimiru> %g 98144
L2777[14:11:23] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps%3Fzipcode%3D98144 -
98144 Zip Code Map | MapQuest: "Our interactive map of
98144 lets you view traffic and satellite images, search for
L2778[14:11:26] <Vex|Laptop>
Anyways
L2779[14:11:28] <Izaya> perhaps have a
thing that displays in the boot system that notes it once you have
VT-l?
L2780[14:11:32] <Vex|Laptop> off to going
sleep
L2781[14:11:38] <Vex|Laptop> see you all
in two days <3
L2782[14:11:40] <Vex|Laptop> Maybe in
one
L2783[14:11:40] <Mimiru> Seattle.
:P
L2784[14:11:45] <Mimiru> o/
Vex|Laptop
L2785[14:11:53] <Vex|Laptop> Whenever i
get interwebs back+
L2786[14:11:54] <Pwootage>
....mapquest?
L2787[14:12:01] <Pwootage> that's still a
thing?
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L2789[14:12:15] <S3> yeah.
L2790[14:12:17] <Mimiru> Seems google
thinks so.
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L2792[14:12:51] <S3> but Izaya if its
possible also, onscreen branding is when you boot the machine and
it shows the intel logo for example
L2793[14:12:58] <S3> could make our own
if the GPU would let us
L2794[14:13:12] <Izaya> S3, load
something before the EEPROM
L2795[14:13:20] <S3> yeah.
L2796[14:13:45] <S3> but definately the
OC virt package will definately show something on boot if I can do
it
L2797[14:13:53] <S3> for openos
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L2802[14:26:52] <gamax92> 3dgalax
L2803[14:29:15] <Sangar> Kubuxu, don't
scare me like that :P browsing the dump here and jvisualvm is
barely using 300mb of ram
L2805[14:30:23] <Kubuxu> Sangar: I've
forgot that JVisual fixed few bugs since J5, but don't press
`calcualted residual size`
L2806[14:30:26] <S3> I'm getting that
stupid rubygrapefruit error when compiling OC again
L2807[14:30:30] <Sangar> unless the task
manager is lying to me, which is entirely possible, ofc
L2808[14:30:37] <Sangar> haha, ok
L2809[14:32:26] <Sangar> hmm, looks like
all of that are servers in racks with >1 server. as in only the
first one gets properly closed. interesting.
L2810[14:35:30] <Izaya> Sangar, chances
of multi-U server?
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L2812[14:35:41] <ThePotato> ~w fs
L2815[14:35:51] <S3> getting 75 FPS on MC
with FreeBSD
L2816[14:35:54] <S3> mission
accomplished.
L2817[14:36:05] <gamax92> But I get 400
FPS on MC
L2818[14:36:07] <Izaya> getting 30FPS on
MC on Linux with a GT220
L2819[14:36:24] <S3> gamax92: I get the
same too but not with the way my video card keeps messing up
L2820[14:36:40] <gamax92> S3: but what is
your card
L2821[14:36:46] <S3> GTX 770
L2822[14:37:00] <Temia> Say, does OC have
lua natives for FreeBSD?
L2823[14:37:06] <gamax92> it has bsd
natives iirc
L2824[14:37:18] <Temia> Mmkay,
coo'.
L2825[14:37:46] <S3> I get really good
performance on windows, there's a driver issue where the card
doesn't properly detect my display, etc
L2826[14:37:52] <S3> and it makes it sort
of perform bad too atm
L2827[14:38:08] <S3> sometimes I cant
even get beyond 1024x768 lol
L2828[14:38:16] <S3> it's whack
L2829[14:38:19] <Izaya> ouch
L2830[14:38:25] <Izaya> I have a GTX260
here
L2831[14:38:30] <S3> but it works fine on
Windows
L2832[14:38:35] <Izaya> and I got it
running with some power supply mods at one point
L2833[14:38:39] <S3> I'm really not too
worried about it though
L2834[14:38:45] <S3> I mean this is my
dev box
L2835[14:38:45] <Izaya> but then it tries
to either OpenGL or use native resolution
L2836[14:38:52] <Izaya> and the system
hangs and everything crashes
L2837[14:39:06] <gamax92> I have a GTX
650 Ti
L2838[14:39:11] <S3> also
L2839[14:39:15] <S3> natives are really
wrong
L2840[14:39:26] <gamax92> oh?
L2841[14:39:34] <S3> on FreeBSD with MC I
have to wrap java
L2842[14:39:52] <S3> inside of a shell
script to force minecraft to not use its natives, and to bind to
the system installed Lwjgl
L2843[14:40:06] <Izaya> poke Sanga on how
to compile them I guess, maybe you could compile some working
ones
L2844[14:40:07] <S3> if only MC would try
and use the system provided crap..
L2845[14:40:13] <S3> which is right in
/usr/lib
L2846[14:40:18] <gamax92> Sangar: what
BSD type system do you use to build the natives?
L2847[14:40:25] <Sangar> freebsd
L2848[14:40:34] <Izaya> you could try
copying them out of /usr/lib
L2849[14:40:36] <gamax92> well then
L2850[14:40:44] <S3> Izaya: its easier
just to use the script
L2851[14:40:52] <S3> minecraft should be
doing it anyways
L2852[14:41:07] <S3> because one huge
problem is that if you're running linux on say a SPARC..
L2853[14:41:23] <S3> (not that that'd be
likely)
L2854[14:41:23] *
Izaya wishes he had a SPARC box
L2855[14:41:55] <Pwootage> hm, I'm
debating on whether I should add memory access to this arch or let
it be stack-only
L2856[14:41:59] <S3> Java code is
supposed to be platform independant, but it only works if people
develop in an independant way
L2857[14:42:10] <S3> Pwootage: what
arch?
L2858[14:42:26] <Izaya> S3, I had the
best idea
L2859[14:42:30] <Pwootage> an arch I'm
making for the sole purpose of doing math on redstone
inputs/outputs
L2860[14:42:33] <Pwootage> let me grab a
link to progress
L2861[14:42:34] <Izaya> I'm gonna run a
PDP-8 emulator on one of those VPSes
L2863[14:42:55] <S3> Pwootage: have you
seen my new project?
L2865[14:43:02] <Pwootage> No, what is
it?
L2867[14:43:07] <S3> when you have time
^
L2868[14:43:20] <Pwootage> oooh
virtualization
L2869[14:43:25] <S3> it's a modification
of the stock Lua CPU, it just inherits the Lua Arch class
L2870[14:43:26] <S3> or will
L2871[14:43:32] <Sangar> Kubuxu, please
give build 706 a try, see if that fixes it
L2872[14:43:33] <S3> so it runs the
same
L2873[14:43:37] <Sangar> (once it's
done)
L2874[14:44:14] <S3> Pwootage: so you're
making some sort of HDL like chip for redstone?
L2875[14:44:26] <Sangar> afk for a
bit
L2876[14:45:07] <Pwootage> S3, not
familar with HDL but maybe?
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L2878[14:46:13] <S3> well, HDL is a class
of languages usually used for programming FPGAs
L2879[14:46:24] <S3> for example, a
langaueg for boolean logic
L2880[14:46:27] <S3> to define what a
chip does
L2881[14:46:39] <Kubuxu> Sangar: will
try. I will bild it mysage cuz faster racks.
L2882[14:46:42] <Pwootage> oh well I
guess sorta
L2883[14:47:02] <Pwootage> I mostly
wanted to see what I could do with 8bit instructions
L2885[14:47:10] <Pwootage> and the answer
is "way more than I need to"
L2887[14:47:19] <S3> yeah dude
L2888[14:47:33] <S3> I was making an 8
bit decoder earlier today and its like almost too big for the
loaded chunks
L2889[14:47:43] <S3> almost every square
meter is filled with null and buffer cells
L2890[14:48:18] <Pwootage> Actually
that's a neat idea
L2891[14:48:27] <Pwootage> make this an
archetecture you could feasably implmeent in actual redstone
too
L2892[14:48:56] <S3> so I am wondering
something
L2893[14:49:08] <S3> what the blazes is
the purpose of the microcontroller, if it can't access
components?
L2894[14:49:18] <S3> I mean that's pretty
much what a microcontroller does
L2895[14:49:32] <Pwootage> this
archetecture is designed for a microcontroller, actually
L2896[14:49:46] <S3> can microcontrollers
only access redstone?
L2897[14:50:14] <Pwootage> they can with
redstone cards (or this archetecture)
L2898[14:50:36] <S3> I'm just still
confused as to why microcontrollers exist
L2900[14:51:06] <CompanionCube> iirc
microcontrollers exist to be used where you would use a computer to
run a device / component
L2901[14:51:52] <Pwootage> tbh I wouldn't
want to use the arch I'm writing without a microcontroller, due to
lack of any sort of component access other than redstone
L2902[14:52:10] <ThePotato> ~w gpu
L2904[14:52:11] <S3> CompanionCube: huh?
the wiki said it cant access components
L2905[14:52:17] <S3> last I looked, maybe
I read it wrong
L2906[14:52:19] <Temia> Microcontrollers
would be better if they could have most external components
installed as upgrades.
L2907[14:52:28] <CompanionCube> ~w
microcontroller
L2909[14:52:30] <Pwootage> They can't
access external components
L2910[14:52:35] <S3> I see
L2911[14:53:05] <S3> so it only takes one
you can add in to a case
L2912[14:53:07] <CompanionCube>
Microcontrollers, which are essentially cheaper and minimalistic
computers, intended for special use-cases, such as redstone
control.
L2913[14:53:53] <Pwootage> Hence why I
want to write a redstone control arch :P
L2914[14:54:31] <Pwootage> a eeprom has
4k of storage, right?
L2915[14:54:47] <Temia> By default,
yes.
L2916[14:55:03] <Temia> You may want
crunch as a result.
L2917[14:56:02] <CompanionCube> or
netbooting
L2918[14:58:20] <Temia> True. With
sufficient RAM, a microcontroller could operate on a tmpfs.
L2919[14:58:54] <Izaya> I can boot amie
from the OC-provided temporary filesystem on a microcontroller
:D
L2920[14:59:18] <Izaya> issue is that you
don't have any I/O for it yet because I haven't written a network
driver for it yet
L2921[15:05:30] <Pwootage> know what, I
don't think I'm going to add memory to this archetecture
L2922[15:05:37] <Pwootage> (which means,
on it's own, it isn't turing complete I guess)
L2923[15:07:19] <Izaya> stack machines
are cool, but a pure one is fairly niché
L2924[15:07:30] <S3> Izaya: I could make
these VPSs run in seperate java threads..
L2925[15:07:51] <S3> if you truly wanted
multiprocessing with VPs's
L2926[15:08:34] <S3> but maybe I
shouldn't
L2927[15:08:56] <Pwootage> A pure stack
machine can still do math that is normally hard to do in
redstone
L2928[15:09:23] <Pwootage> it will have
4/8/16 gpr, so technically it has 4/8/16 bytes of memory
L2929[15:11:20] <S3> Pwootage: stack eh.
should port my programming language to it :)
L2930[15:12:05] <Pwootage> Any specific
instructions you need/want? :D
L2931[15:12:16] <S3> heck if I would
know
L2932[15:12:20] <S3> oh yes!
L2933[15:12:24] <S3> one in
particular
L2935[15:12:28] <ThePotato> how do i use
the redstone card
L2936[15:12:38] <gamax92> Halt and Catch
Fire
L2937[15:12:53] <S3> when you call it the
cpu stops and the microcontroller catches fire.
L2938[15:13:03] <gamax92> just like
RP2
L2939[15:13:09] <Pwootage> trying to
decide how I want to do flow control... 4k is the code space, maybe
just jump forward/back up to 16 bytes?
L2940[15:13:31] <S3> gamax92: I wanted to
port corewars to the RP2
L2941[15:13:34] <ThePotato> how do i use
the redstone card
L2942[15:13:38] <S3> and make it so that
the instruction you had to try and execute was HCF
L2943[15:13:39] <gamax92> S3: then do
so?
L2944[15:13:42] <Pwootage>
~redstone
L2945[15:13:46] <Pwootage> ~wiki
redstone
L2947[15:13:52] <S3> gamax92: it was
years ago.
L2948[15:14:02] <Mimiru> ThePotato,
first, you stop repeating yourself, second you read the wiki
page.
L2949[15:15:17] <gamax92> S3: I'm sure a
rpc emulator for oc could be made
L2951[15:15:29] <gamax92> going to go do
that after I eat foodz
L2952[15:15:46] <S3> I remember when
nooga and I worked on getting cc65 to work on it
L2953[15:15:52] <S3> I was working on a C
api for the sortron
L2954[15:16:01] <S3> you just pass it a
struct
L2955[15:16:36] <Pwootage> who was
working on that ARM archectecutre? I remember hearing about it ages
ago but then had stuff come up and lost track of it
L2956[15:16:45] <S3> that reminds
me
L2957[15:16:55] <S3> I wonder if anyone
has built a sortron like device for OC?
L2958[15:17:19] <S3> of course with AE
now we don't really need it
L2959[15:19:32] <Pwootage> hmm, re-use
carry flag or add a second flag to track whether you should jump or
not
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L2961[15:19:56] <ThePotato> ~oc
sides
L2963[15:21:01] <gamax92> Pwootage:
SolraBizna is making one and DrHoffman is making one
L2964[15:21:14] <Pwootage> gamax92:
difference between the two?
L2965[15:21:25] *
gamax92 shrugs
L2966[15:21:37] <Pwootage> I'll have to
google those eventaully I guess
L2967[15:21:42] <Pwootage> arm asm is fun
to write
L2968[15:22:04] <gamax92> Solra's is
actually released and has demonstration code, and DrHoffman as
usually keeps everything to himself, and may or may not even
release
L2969[15:22:28] <Pwootage> well then
that's the one I should look at :P
L2971[15:24:29] <Mimiru> That code gave
me brain cancer.
L2972[15:24:31] <Mimiru> Thanks.
L2973[15:24:32] <gamax92> Mimiru: do you
mind updating the cron job to point to the correct location after I
move ocdoc's stuff into a folder?
L2974[15:24:41] <Mimiru> give me the path
and sure
L2975[15:24:44] <gamax92> my home
directory is sorta cluttered :P
L2976[15:24:45] <ThePotato> Mimiru: much
love <3
L2977[15:24:52] <ThePotato> Mimiru: to
your brain cancer
L2978[15:25:13] <gamax92> Mimiru: will
just be in a ocdoc folder
L2979[15:25:36] *
ThePotato gives card to Mimiru, "Get better soon, so i can
give more cancer :D!"
L2980[15:25:41] <Mimiru> K, I'll save
when you tell me
L2981[15:26:04] <ThePotato> what do i do
about that
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L2983[15:26:16] <Mimiru> Ok, you realize
that's going to wait 500 seconds before checking your condition,
right?
L2984[15:26:31] <Mimiru> Also, you did
remember that sides.left is the computers left, not yours?
L2985[15:26:33] <ThePotato> damn its in
seconds.....
L2986[15:26:43] <ThePotato> usually
things like that are in milli.
L2987[15:26:44] <Wobbo> ThePotato: Y U no
use events? D:
L2988[15:27:02] <ThePotato> Wobbo: what
event do i use
L2989[15:27:04] <Mimiru> Well, if you
ever bothered reading the actual fucking docs for shit.
L2990[15:27:05] <ThePotato> ~w
event
L2992[15:27:11] <Mimiru> You'd KNOW it's
in seconds.
L2993[15:27:13] <Wobbo> Dunno,
redstone_changed or something
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L2995[15:27:36] <gamax92> Mimiru: okay
moved i think
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L2997[15:27:49] <gamax92> ~w test
L2999[15:31:34] <Pwootage> ...if I
compress my arch to 4 bit instructions I'm one instruction short
>.<
L3000[15:31:49] <Pwootage> (well 4 + 4
bit immediate for some instructions)
L3001[15:36:04] <ThePotato> Pwootage: 8 -
4 = 4
L3002[15:36:11] <ThePotato> Pwootage: 4 /
2 = 2
L3003[15:36:20] <ThePotato> 2 + the lost
bit = 3
L3004[15:36:30] <ThePotato> half life 3
confirmed
L3005[15:36:39] <ThePotato> -*
L3006[15:36:44] <ThePotato> fuck
L3007[15:36:50] <ThePotato> ruinted that
one
L3008[15:38:22] *
Lizzy writes "Number 6" on a postit note and sticks it on
Mimiru's face
L3009[15:38:44] <Mimiru> Damn it. We've
been through this... I am not a number!
L3010[15:38:53] *
Lizzy giggles
L3011[15:39:02] <Wobbo> Why the number
6?
L3012[15:39:24] <Mimiru> The
Prisoner.
L3013[15:39:36] <Lizzy> Wobbo: Iron
Maiden - The Prisoner
L3014[15:40:07] <Wobbo> Ah, carry
on
L3015[15:40:52] <Lizzy> My sister is
currently having a party down stairs, my dad is mingling with the
guests and i'm catsitting the cat
L3016[15:41:51] <Lizzy> and somone is
pissed or something
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L3018[15:44:18] <Sangar> .
L3019[15:44:55] <Wobbo> ,
L3020[15:45:09] <Mimiru> ;
L3021[15:46:48] <Wobbo> ?
L3022[15:46:55] <Pwootage> ...has anyone
implemented a BF arch yet?
L3023[15:47:00] <gamax92> Yes
L3024[15:47:10] <gamax92> no
L3025[15:47:19] <Pwootage> that seems
like an obvious/easy example of how to write an arch
L3026[15:49:20] <Starhero-MC> OH OH! Are
you getting JVM crashes aswell?!?
L3027[15:49:25] <gamax92> nope
L3028[15:49:26] <Starhero-MC> wront
oc
L3029[15:50:16] <Starhero-MC> sorry guys,
MT, i use a multichatter, on mc...eairc..
L3030[15:50:42] <Inari> "a
multichatter"
L3031[15:51:03] <Inari> i should ask my
irc client's devs to add that to features
L3032[15:51:05] <Starhero-MC> ....a
(insert random thing here cuz i ma tired)
L3033[15:51:36] <Lizzy>
multi-channe;=l/netowrk?
L3034[15:51:45] <Pwootage> ugh, I'm so
indesisive... maybe I'll just write the whole system in lua instead
of building it from redstone
L3035[15:51:54] <Inari> about every irc
client can handle multiple channels
L3036[15:52:25] <Pwootage> most handle
multiple networks too
L3037[15:52:34] <Inari> ya :P
L3038[15:53:08] <Inari> i mean channels
are part of the IRC protocol.. and for networks it reall yjust
matters which socket you send to and read from
L3039[15:53:59] <Pwootage> slightly more
confusing when you have multiple connections open to the same
bouncer to different networks :P (I mean still different sockets
but still)
L3040[15:54:59] <Pwootage> Anyone have an
OC-compatible way of getting current power generation/usage more
useful than just timing how long it takes to fill/empty
containers?
L3041[15:58:02] <Wobbo> Pwootage: You
just gave the definition of power generation/usage.
L3042[15:58:10] <Pwootage> Wobbo,
L3043[15:58:25] <Pwootage> I meant a
component that gives the power transfered through it, not manually
timing :P
L3044[15:58:51] <Mimiru> Pwootage, zetta
industries has a RF meter?
L3045[15:58:57] <Mimiru> IIRC you can
read the values via OC
L3046[15:59:02] <Pwootage> I can't find
zetta industries anywhere
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L3048[15:59:03] <Wobbo> Tssk. Real men do
their own timing!
L3050[15:59:11] <Pwootage> Wobbo, yeah
that's basically my plan :P
L3051[15:59:26] ***
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L3052[15:59:27] <Mimiru> Ask, and you
shall receive
L3053[15:59:41] <Pwootage> Mimiru, is
there a wiki or post or somethign that shows anything about it
other than the source code?
L3054[16:01:30] <Mimiru> No.. but use it,
it's not hard to figure out.
L3055[16:01:42] <Mimiru> Also, if you
have IE it adds OC wires.
L3056[16:01:44] <Mimiru> which are
neat.
L3057[16:01:53] <Mimiru> I originally
added it just for thos.
L3058[16:01:55] <Mimiru> those*
L3059[16:07:22] <Pwootage> eh, I think
enderio has OC support (well, CC support which can be called from
OC with the adapter) so I can just check the current content of a
battery
L3060[16:07:30] <Pwootage> I don't really
like adding mods I know nothing about
L3061[16:08:22] *
Mimiru shrugs
L3062[16:08:29] <Skye> Pwootage: asie
likes Zetta Industries, so it must be awesome.
L3063[16:08:50] <Pwootage> I'm sure it's
awesome, but I really like to know what all I'm getting before I
get it :P
L3064[16:08:55] <Mimiru> marcin212, is
the author, seems like a pretty decent person :P
L3065[16:10:07] <WireWulf> well
L3066[16:10:37] <Mimiru> and smbarbour
has contributed, which makes it 1000% cooler :P
L3067[16:10:57] <Pwootage> Do you need to
include CC to call CC apis from OC?
L3068[16:11:44] <Mimiru> Well, if the mod
you're trying to use uses @Optionals to strip stuff if the mod
isn't loaded.. then yes
L3069[16:12:22] <Pwootage> ...I genuinely
have no idea. Probably yes, then.
L3070[16:16:19] *
WireWulf ponders what would happen is you pushed Mimiru into a
stargate
L3071[16:18:21] <Pwootage> Likely he/she
would go through it
L3072[16:18:35] <Pwootage> (if it was
connected/open)
L3073[16:18:47] <Mimiru> o_o
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L3076[16:27:54] <Pwootage> I like how you
can open the OC manual without having one using NEI
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L3078[16:39:04] <Wobbo> Router…
>:-(
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L3082[16:50:02] <Wobbo> Well, the first
part of the compiler is online. But it doesn't work yet :(
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L3085[16:56:53] <Wobbo> Buhh… enough done
for today…
L3086[16:57:30] <gamax92> But
Woooobobobo, why give up now when you can continue to work for the
rest of your life
L3087[16:57:53] <Wobbo> I stop for today,
will continue tomorrow :P
L3088[16:58:27] <Wobbo> I now come to the
hard part of turing lists into Lua code, that gets tricky
L3089[16:58:41] <Wobbo> Because I also
have to do macro expansion and the like now
L3090[17:00:49] <gamax92> Sangar: Hey,
does the debug card support nbt?
L3091[17:03:18] <gamax92> I'll have to
get around to doing that for Sangar
L3092[17:03:53] <Wobbo> gamax92: doing
what for Sangar?
L3093[17:04:05] <gamax92> Wobbo: what was
the very message before that?
L3094[17:04:40] <Wobbo> if the debug card
supports nbt, you are going to make the debug car support
nbt?
L3095[17:05:21] *
gamax92 stabs Wobbo
L3096[17:05:25] <gamax92> Stop acting
stupid
L3097[17:06:22] ***
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L3098[17:06:38] <Wobbo> It's late, I'm
tired. Make things easy for my brain
L3099[17:07:10] <Wobbo> gamax92: ^
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L3102[17:07:47] <gamax92> The debug card
likely doesn't have nbt editing capabilities because Sangar is
lazy, so I will go do that and pr it for him
L3103[17:07:51] <gamax92> also wtf
Michibot
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L3105[17:08:07] <Mimiru> What
gamax92..?
L3106[17:08:21] <Wobbo> Michibot is also
tired and went to sleep
L3107[17:08:32] <Wobbo> pretty rude that
it didn't say goodbye!
L3108[17:08:37] <Mimiru> MichiBot is
getting shutdown for a bit.
L3109[17:12:36] <Wobbo> Buhh… I'm going
to bed
L3110[17:12:39] <Wobbo> Bye!
L3111[17:12:47] <Sangar> gamax92, yeah,
go for it
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L3113[17:13:27] <Sangar> i had to gos at
it and failed at finding a nice way to nbt->lua-table->nbt
:P
L3114[17:14:17] <gamax92> okay it's just
going to be the standard {type="something",
value=something} that i thought of and later found out immibis and
minemarten and quite a few of other people do
L3115[17:16:46] <gamax92> ._. right Scala
...
L3116[17:16:55] <gamax92> Sangar: you are
getting Java code feel free to convert yourself
L3117[17:18:03] <Mimiru> lmfao
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L3122[17:24:04] <DrHoffman> .p
L3123[17:24:44] <Sangar> gamax92, yeeah,
i kinda found that meh, but ok :P
L3124[17:26:16] <Sangar> aaanyway, bed
time o/
L3125[17:28:07] <Mimiru> Night
Sangar
L3126[17:28:52] <gamax92> ~w debug
card
L3128[17:29:37] <DrHoffman> .-.
L3129[17:29:37] <^v> Ping reply from
DrHoffman 333.03s
L3130[17:29:39] <DrHoffman>
.---------------------.
L3131[17:29:44] <SuPeRMiNoR2> What
L3132[17:29:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> .p
L3133[17:29:51] <^v> Ping reply from
SuPeRMiNoR2 0.41s
L3134[17:29:53] <DrHoffman> many 3
L3135[17:29:54] <DrHoffman> goodnight
sangar
L3136[17:30:03] <gamax92> DrHoffman:
You're in a time rift!
L3137[17:30:16] <DrHoffman> i am
L3138[17:30:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Well, at
least it was not 666
L3139[17:30:51] <DrHoffman> i pretty much
have to hold my phone in the perfect spot else the packets get
stalled
L3140[17:31:03] <DrHoffman> .p
L3141[17:31:04] <^v> Ping reply from
DrHoffman 0.55s
L3142[17:31:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Are you on
a cell network DrHoffman?
L3143[17:31:45] <DrHoffman> Yes.
L3144[17:31:52] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I am on
cell atm too :(
L3145[17:31:57] <DrHoffman> 1 bar of 3G 4
lyfe
L3146[17:32:19] <SuPeRMiNoR2> A moment of
silence for the people I know who only have cell internet
L3147[17:32:21] <DrHoffman> I have an app
thay tries to force 4G, but LTE is fukkin retarded
L3148[17:32:37] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I currently
am on weak LTE
L3149[17:32:42] <DrHoffman> It always
wants to default to the slower 3G network
L3150[17:33:02] <DrHoffman> 1 bar of 4G
is fucking fast compared to my old internet at home
L3151[17:33:15] <DrHoffman> before my mom
told AT&T to fuck off
L3152[17:33:19] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Depends
where you are I guess
L3153[17:33:30] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Some places
one bar of lte is decent
L3154[17:33:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> One place I
was in, that was 5s latency and 0.2 mbit/s dl
L3155[17:35:50] <DrHoffman> Well, I'm
inbetween two cell towers but my house is the perfect distance from
both of them
L3156[17:35:50] <DrHoffman> so basically
I have no service ONLY in my house
L3157[17:35:51] <DrHoffman> it fucking
sucks
L3158[17:36:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I am so
sorry
L3159[17:36:56] <SuPeRMiNoR2> That is
probably worse then my old dsl
L3160[17:37:06] <SuPeRMiNoR2> .5 mbit dl
at best
L3161[17:37:18] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Random
total service drop
L3162[17:37:30] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Now I have
cable
L3163[17:37:36] <SuPeRMiNoR2> It is a
little better
L3164[17:38:26] <DrHoffman> .p
L3165[17:42:55] <^v> Ping reply from
DrHoffman 269.35s
L3166[17:42:57] <DrHoffman> .-.
L3167[17:43:03] <DrHoffman> I'll never
send that ping back i guess.
L3168[17:43:05] <DrHoffman> Oh, there it
is.
L3169[17:43:06] <DrHoffman> Hello.
L3170[17:43:07] <DrHoffman> .p
L3171[17:43:08] <^v> Ping reply from
DrHoffman 1.08s
L3172[17:43:34] <DrHoffman> My phone has
moments where it just goes WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WHAT THE SHIT
D:::::::::::::
L3173[17:44:32] <Pangea> it sprouts 12
extra pairs of eyes?
L3174[17:44:38] <Pangea> 13*
L3175[17:44:41] <DrHoffman> sure
L3176[17:45:48] <DrHoffman> .p
L3177[17:45:49] <^v> Ping reply from
DrHoffman 0.61s
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L3179[18:00:43] <S3> why is gradle
pooping
L3181[18:01:00] <S3> I added the oc repo
to build.gradle and it still doesnt fetch the oc stuff
L3182[18:01:10] <Pwootage> ...suddenly I
want AA in minecraft
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L3184[18:01:55] <Mimiru> S3, show yo
code? :P
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L3186[18:02:12] <Mimiru> well, your
build.gradle, but still lol
L3187[18:02:53] <S3> yeah I know what you
mean
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L3190[18:03:39] <S3> the only thing I'm
annoyed about is that my domain is 9600-baud.net and I can't use
that as part of my package names :(
L3191[18:03:44] <S3> I knew that though
lol
L3192[18:04:01] <Mimiru> That's ok I'm
PC-Logix.com, and I can't use -
L3193[18:04:04] <Mimiru> lol
L3194[18:04:21] <S3> other than that I
dunno why it wont fetch OC
L3195[18:04:27] <Mimiru> Umm... that
looks fine, the only diff with my .gradle is I don't use
-dev:dev
L3196[18:04:29] <Mimiru> just :dev
L3198[18:04:50] <S3> I put it there
because gamax92 uses it
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L3201[18:05:06] <Mimiru> Yeah.. you're
pulling from the -dev builds
L3202[18:05:07] <gamax92> umm, why such
an old version of oc
L3203[18:05:17] <S3> plus I dunno if it
makes a difference but I need to inherit from the scala
classes
L3204[18:05:29] <S3> so I figured the api
one may not work?
L3205[18:05:37] <Mimiru>
setupDecompWorkspace should pull everything...
L3206[18:05:54] <primetoxinz> I thought
gradle eclipse/idea pulled that stuff
L3207[18:05:55] <S3> it completely
ignores it, but if I put a typo in there it complains
L3208[18:06:20] <gamax92> oh primetoxinz
is right
L3209[18:06:34] <primetoxinz> lel
L3210[18:06:35] <Mimiru> O
L3211[18:06:42] <gamax92> I only see the
downloads for oc stuff when it goes to setup eclipse things
L3212[18:06:46] <S3> also I dunno what
version to be using in there.. I don't know whats available
lol
L3213[18:06:53] <Mimiru> I'm pretty sure
I've watched my CI pull stuff in with just setupDecomp...
L3214[18:06:55] <gamax92> S3:
ci.cil.li
L3215[18:07:03] <S3> oh right
L3216[18:07:07] <S3> I forget that place
exists
L3217[18:07:24] <gamax92> also there's
something that I've been meaning to steal from Techokami that
allows me to have it auto update ...
L3218[18:07:35] <Techokami> oh?
L3219[18:07:35] <primetoxinz> well,
anyone have experience with drones?
L3220[18:07:54] <Mimiru> gamax92, if you
steal it I want it tooooo
L3221[18:08:33] <gamax92> hmm ... bleh ,
it's some version format that uses a plus characters so it fetches
the latest
L3222[18:08:42] <gamax92> like, 1.5.+ or
something
L3223[18:09:09] <Inari> primetoxinz:
require is an openos thing i think... even if not, sides api is one
for sure :P
L3224[18:09:21] <S3> gamax92, its what
you have in ocsymon :P
L3225[18:09:27] <Techokami> working on
OCSymon again, gamax92?
L3226[18:09:30] <primetoxinz> well, how
do I use components then Inari?
L3227[18:09:37] <gamax92> oh,
L3228[18:09:40] *
gamax92 steals from himself then
L3229[18:09:45] <S3> lol!
L3230[18:10:01] <Inari>
component.proxy(component.list("inventory_controller")())
i believe?
L3231[18:10:20] <primetoxinz> I'll try
it
L3232[18:10:32] <Inari> with a local
invcont = before tha tof course
L3233[18:10:39] <Inari> and you dont need
to require component itself i thin
L3234[18:11:30] <Techokami> I wonder how
that x86 CPU addon mod is comming along... I want to play Doom on
an OC computer!
L3235[18:11:37] <SF-Toaster|Off> are we
talking bare metal here?
L3236[18:11:46] <SF-Toaster|Off> Because
no OS, you don't need to require() component
L3237[18:12:52] <SF-Toaster|Off>
Techokami: there's an addon for x86?
L3238[18:13:01] <Techokami> someone was
working on one
L3239[18:13:01] <SF-Toaster|Off> I knew
there was an ARM one in the works
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L3242[18:13:14] <Techokami> using a
Java-based x86 emulator as a base
L3243[18:13:16] <SF-Toaster> I wasn't
aware of an x86 on though
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L3246[18:14:10] <Mimiru> %test
L3247[18:14:11] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Success
L3248[18:14:20] <Techokami> also, where
is the ARM one, and how far along is it
L3249[18:14:22] <Mimiru> yay.
L3250[18:14:28] <SF-Toaster> The ARM one
is on the forums
L3251[18:14:33] <SF-Toaster> not sure
what its status is now
L3252[18:15:23] <S3> somebody is working
on an ARM arch?
L3254[18:15:30] <Mimiru> that's theo ne
from the forums
L3255[18:15:34] <Mimiru> the one*
L3257[18:15:38] <Mimiru> DrHoffman, is
working on one too
L3258[18:15:40] <S3> honestly I would
rather see a Z80/80180 arch than x86
L3259[18:15:43] <S3> x86 is nasty
L3260[18:15:47] <SF-Toaster> yeah
L3261[18:15:59] <SF-Toaster> I'd want to
see a simplistic architecture that isn't x86
L3262[18:16:00] <S3> and x80180 can run
MS-DOS
L3264[18:16:08] <SF-Toaster> ick
DOS
L3266[18:16:11] <Mimiru> dafraq
vifino
L3267[18:16:21] <SF-Toaster> hell
L3268[18:16:28] <S3> SF-Toaster, all I
was saying is that it is intel 8080 compatible
L3269[18:16:30] <vifino> Mimiru:
ihadto.png
L3270[18:16:30] <SF-Toaster> well
nvm
L3271[18:16:59] <S3> SF-Toaster, I need
to finish helping gamax92 with OCSymon though
L3272[18:17:00] <SF-Toaster>
unfortunately, we still need a 32bit addressing scheme if we want
more than 64k for memory
L3273[18:17:01] <S3> which is 6502
L3274[18:17:11] <vifino> Mimiru: Someone
pointed a gun at me to post it here!
L3275[18:17:12] *
vifino ides
L3276[18:17:15] <SF-Toaster> (No,
segmented memory access *is not* the solution)
L3277[18:17:15] <vifino> hides,
even.
L3278[18:17:37] <S3> wait what
L3280[18:17:44] <Techokami> 68k or 65816,
if you want something 32-bit? :o
L3281[18:17:49] <S3> why not a 24 bit
addressing scheme?
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L3284[18:17:58] <S3> address up to
16MB
L3285[18:17:59] <SF-Toaster> because 24
is a weird size
L3286[18:18:03] <S3> not really
L3287[18:18:03] <gamax92> not
really
L3288[18:18:09] <S3> the SNES did it
iirc
L3289[18:18:14] <Techokami> 68k was
24-bit addressing
L3290[18:18:18] <S3> WRONG
L3293[18:18:25] <SF-Toaster> I thought
the 68k was 32bit addressing
L3294[18:18:28] <Techokami> well
L3295[18:18:32] <S3> Techokami, I read
that as 64K
L3297[18:18:39] <S3> not the 68000
L3298[18:18:41] <SF-Toaster> lol
L3299[18:18:50] <Techokami> 68030 and up
was 32bit
L3300[18:18:59] <SF-Toaster> alrighty
then
L3301[18:19:10] <SF-Toaster> point being
though
L3302[18:19:13] <S3> 24 bit addressing is
what I figured we could use for the OCSymon 6502 arch
L3303[18:19:15] <S3> for the MMU
L3304[18:19:18] <Techokami> 68000 and
68010 were 24bit
L3305[18:19:24] <S3> or wait no
L3306[18:19:33] <S3> I mean my 6502 IRC
bot uses a 24 bit address scheme
L3307[18:19:37] <SF-Toaster> I'd like to
see something that isn't complicated
L3308[18:19:47] <Techokami> 68008 was
16bit because lololololol
L3309[18:19:52] <SF-Toaster> I'd even be
cool if someone could create a custom CPU architecture
L3310[18:20:00] <SF-Toaster>
s/It'd/I'd/
L3311[18:20:10] <SF-Toaster> I broke sed
yay
L3312[18:20:18] <S3> SF-Toaster, not
really an arch, but what I am doing -right- now (IF GRADLE WOULD
WORK)
L3313[18:20:25] <Mimiru> %p
Kibibyte
L3314[18:20:27] <MichiBot> Ping reply
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L3317[18:20:43] <S3> actually crap
L3318[18:20:45] <SF-Toaster> the sucky
part about doing that is having to build your own assembler then
compiler
L3319[18:20:50] <S3> I don't have the
hastebin link
L3320[18:21:06] <S3> SF-Toaster, meh
force people to use machine code
L3321[18:21:06] <SF-Toaster> brb
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L3323[18:21:16] <SF-Toaster> S3: I'm more
of a C kinda guy :)
L3324[18:21:21] <Techokami> what's wrong
with RAM paging btw
L3325[18:21:31] <S3> paging !=
segmentation
L3326[18:21:39] <S3> segmentation is when
the pages are not a fixed size
L3327[18:21:49] <S3> it was used a long
time ago, whats funny is that paging is older
L3328[18:22:32] <S3> but nothing is wrong
with paging
L3329[18:22:40] <S3> the probklem with
paging is that you waste memory
L3330[18:22:47] <S3> the problem with
segmentation is a lot of stuff.
L3331[18:23:22] <S3> but every computer
has such a huge massive ocean of ram nowadays that paging is no big
deal
L3332[18:23:26] <Techokami> well... you
got a workaround for the lower memory address space, then, for 8
bit CPUs. Page the extra RAM. But having a fat address space does
make things simpler, yes
L3333[18:23:35] <S3> 1 MB of ram is a
ridiculous ammount of ram
L3334[18:23:46] <S3> my box here has
16GB.. wtf
L3335[18:24:00] <S3> you can fit a TCP/IP
stack in 8K
L3336[18:24:09] <S3> or less
L3337[18:24:28] <S3> read only filesystem
drivers, in less than 500 bytes..
L3338[18:24:33] <gamax92> you could store
the string "TCP/IP" in 8 bytes
L3339[18:24:41] <gamax92> and less
L3341[18:25:07] <S3> gamax92, Java.
Hello, World in 4.2 GB.
L3342[18:25:36] <Techokami> I've been
planning a custom SBC project for a while, using a 68k CPU with 8MB
RAM
L3343[18:26:07] <S3> too much
L3344[18:26:12] <S3> all you need is
64K
L3345[18:26:19] <Techokami> heh
L3346[18:26:33] <Techokami> well it's
only half the address space
L3347[18:27:07] <S3> I still have to draw
out the actual representation of the 6502 MMU so that it can
interface components without wasting memory
L3348[18:27:14] <S3> in OC
L3349[18:27:19] <Techokami> yes
L3350[18:27:34] <S3> and also interface
components without it being a PITA to inject 128 bit uuids of
components
L3351[18:27:37] <S3> thats a huge
issue.
L3352[18:28:11] <S3> and the way I will
probably do it is reserve 16 bytes for the UUID as a register
memory mapped by the MMU
L3353[18:28:17] <S3> its either
that,
L3354[18:28:23] <S3> or you'll have to do
it byte by byte
L3355[18:28:31] <S3> waste of cycles..
but saves memory
L3356[18:28:37] <S3> up to gamax92
:)
L3357[18:29:27] <Techokami> yeah my plan
was to have the first half of memory be RAM, second half be
hardware stuff like the VDP, PSG, UART, keyboard/mouse, joysticks,
RTC, Ethernet, and disk
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L3360[18:30:30] <S3> what arch?
L3361[18:30:34] <S3> oh the 68K?
L3362[18:30:37] <Techokami> yeah
L3363[18:30:48] <S3> is the 68K all
memory mapped IO?
L3364[18:30:51] <gamax92> huh what?
L3365[18:31:00] <Techokami> yep, 68k is
all memory-mapped
L3366[18:31:16] <S3> memory mapped IO is
fantastic for microcontroller stuff
L3367[18:31:19] <S3> hobby kits,
etc
L3368[18:31:21] <Techokami> indeed
L3369[18:31:26] <S3> I absolutely hate
ATMega
L3371[18:31:32] <Techokami> heh
L3372[18:31:35] <S3> because you get four
bloody 8 bit ports
L3373[18:31:41] <S3> for the 324 for
example
L3374[18:31:56] <S3> and they are
bidirectional, but hardware controlled
L3375[18:31:58] <Shuudoushi> ...
L3376[18:32:01] <Techokami> I have some
Atmel microcontrollers, older ones, just laying around
L3377[18:32:02] <S3> you have to waste
cycles changing the direction
L3378[18:32:15] <gamax92> S3: can't you
just have the MMU have some fancy memcpy function?
L3379[18:32:30] <S3> gamax92, right but
how do you determine what to copy?
L3380[18:32:37] <Techokami> right now I'm
building a ECB-based Z80 system
L3381[18:32:42] <gamax92> .-.
L3382[18:32:43] <S3> all components are
different
L3384[18:32:47] <S3> and have different
functions
L3385[18:32:57] <Techokami> my EPROM
programmer is a piece of shit though so I'm waiting for a less
sucky one to arrive in the mail
L3386[18:32:59] <S3> and you need to be
able to tell what components to map
L3387[18:33:04] <gamax92> S3: this is why
I stopped working on OCSymon
L3389[18:33:12] <S3> same problem?
L3390[18:33:21] <S3> it can be done
L3391[18:33:30] <Techokami> tackle and
solve the problem to become A GOD
L3392[18:33:34] <S3> Techokami, make
one?
L3393[18:33:46] <S3> I made my own with a
mega 2560 arduino for parallel EEPROMs
L3394[18:33:54] <S3> it works EXTREMELY
well and even shows progress on serial
L3395[18:33:56] <S3> and does a
checksum
L3396[18:34:02] <gamax92> it's much
easier for me to just map specific components into specific
addresses that do specific things
L3397[18:34:05] <Techokami> effort
L3398[18:34:17] <S3> its really easy to
make a parallel eeprom programmer
L3399[18:34:29] <Techokami> though if
this one turns out to be ass as well, I might as well just do
that
L3400[18:34:36] <S3> I use a dinky perl
script to convert the files into C arrays, but I was thinking of
making it read from the serial port
L3401[18:34:41] <S3> so you just start
the eeprom programmer
L3402[18:34:42] <S3> then go
L3403[18:34:44] <Techokami> all the good
programmers costs too much money >:/
L3404[18:34:48] <S3> cat foobar.bin >
/dev/ttyS0
L3405[18:34:53] <Shuudoushi> does anyone
have some experience with dynamically launching programs with
arguments?
L3406[18:35:11] <DrHoffman> This arm
emulation core is just way too shitty... And debugging it is really
hard :/
L3407[18:35:32] <S3> gamax92, but the
problem lies where someone invents component XYZ
L3408[18:35:35] <S3> and they want to use
it
L3409[18:35:46] <Techokami> also I'm
using Windows instead of Linux because things actually work for me
for some reason :V
L3410[18:36:00] <vifino> .-.
L3411[18:36:03] <gamax92> Well then,
screw them
L3413[18:36:09] <gamax92> effort
L3414[18:36:09] <Techokami> :O
L3415[18:36:19] <S3> either way
L3416[18:36:32] <S3> I think VT-l will be
the best cpu arch for OC
L3418[18:36:41] <S3> which I am so angry
at gradle atm
L3419[18:36:43] <S3> and #gradle
L3420[18:36:55] <S3> (they're sleeping)
:)
L3421[18:36:58] <Techokami> VT-1?
L3422[18:37:00] <DrHoffman> and also I
think a CPU bug is corrupting memory somehow
L3423[18:37:09] <DrHoffman> So I'm going
to have to manually trap memory accesses :/
L3424[18:37:13] <Techokami> never heard
of that CPU before...
L3425[18:37:35] <vifino> Techokami: tl;dr
lua arch with something like containers
L3426[18:37:48] <Techokami> ahh
L3427[18:37:51] <DrHoffman> I'm seriously
thinking about taking qemu's ARM emulation code and copy pasting at
this point
L3428[18:37:51] <S3> Techokami, I am
working on a cpu arch for OC called VT-l. I wish I had the document
on me, but here's how it should work. It inherits the Lua CPU Arch
class, and adds virtualization
L3429[18:37:54] <S3> hardware virt
L3430[18:38:01] <Techokami> aha!
L3431[18:38:14] <S3> allowing you to run
say multiple Openos lua threads at the Lua api level
L3432[18:38:20] <Techokami> DrHoffman,
that's what open source is for
L3433[18:38:31] <DrHoffman> Techokami:
the fucking java arm emulator is opensource
L3435[18:38:53] <DrHoffman> it was based
off another opensource project, written in C, by someone in the
trusted community for the GBA
L3436[18:39:01] <DrHoffman> but even the
C one has those fucking bugs
L3437[18:39:10] <Techokami> no I mean,
qemu is open source, pillage from that if it better
L3438[18:39:15] <S3> Techokami, the CPU
arch is very simple to use. it is identical in the way it works to
the stock one, so you can use it in your computer and run openos or
anything else on it just fine.
L3439[18:39:19] <DrHoffman> I've been
referencing mGBA for arm shit now, and if you haven't seen it, it's
A FUCKING CLUSTERFUCK
L3440[18:39:34] <Techokami> sounds like a
joy
L3441[18:39:44] <S3> the arch exposes an
api like a component for openos or whatever you have, and you can
start stop and restart lua VMs, etc
L3443[18:40:00] <DrHoffman> I might as
well rewrite the emulation core from scratch
L3444[18:40:02] <S3> the guests can also
lock / unlock access to components
L3445[18:40:06] <DrHoffman> but that
would be boring
L3446[18:40:24] <DrHoffman> I would have
to go all the way back to square one and start all over
L3447[18:40:38] <DrHoffman> I might as
well
L3449[18:41:24] <DrHoffman> fucking mess
of an instruction set god damn it
L3450[18:42:04] <SF-Toaster> DrHoffman:
sounds like you'd /love/ x86 :P
L3451[18:42:11] <DrHoffman> I'm GOING TO
GO EAT SOME CRANBERRY ICE CREAM
L3452[18:42:16] <DrHoffman> SF-Toaster:
DON"T EVEN GET ME STARTED
L3453[18:42:23] <DrHoffman> ARM >
x86
L3454[18:42:27] <DrHoffman> x86 is
trash
L3455[18:42:38] <SF-Toaster> ^ typed on
an x86 no doubt
L3456[18:42:40] <DrHoffman> anyways, ice
cream for reals
L3457[18:42:56] <Techokami> what about
68k, or PPC? :O
L3458[18:42:57] <DrHoffman> SF-Toaster:
You can't get good consumer computers running ARM Q_Q
L3459[18:43:04] <SF-Toaster> yeah
ik
L3460[18:43:19] <DrHoffman> PPC is
alright, I dealt with enough of it on the Wii tho
L3461[18:43:29] <DrHoffman> although I
haven't done any assembly in PPC
L3462[18:44:07] <DrHoffman> Now... ARM?
ARM's cool and all when you are simply programming in it. Hell,
even the assembly feels high level... But when you try to emulate
that shit
L3463[18:44:17] <DrHoffman> Oh my gosh
whatever you do don't emulate ARM ever
L3464[18:44:24] <DrHoffman> It's a
clusterfuuuuuck
L3465[18:45:13] <Techokami> iirc ARM,
during early testing, was basically running off fucking magic
L3466[18:45:53] <S3> removing my gradle
cache..
L3467[18:45:57] <S3> hopefully this fixes
it
L3468[18:46:15] <S3> if it does I'm going
to yell at the gradle team for failing to be developers.
L3469[18:46:15] <Techokami> the power
line to the CPU wasn't correctly hooked up, but it still ran on the
leakage from the surrounding logic chips
L3470[18:46:45] <S3> Techokami, does the
68K have an HCF equivelant like the 6502?
L3471[18:46:55] <S3> of course it doesn't
really HCF..
L3472[18:47:03] <S3> it just dusconnects
the cpu clock
L3473[18:47:06] <S3> disconnects*
L3474[18:47:11] <Techokami> HCF? congrats
you caught me off guard
L3475[18:47:29] <S3> halt catch
fire..
L3476[18:47:29] <SF-Toaster> Halt and
Catch Fire
L3477[18:47:30] <SF-Toaster> yes?
L3478[18:47:32] <SF-Toaster> yes
L3479[18:47:34] <Techokami> derps
L3480[18:47:36] <S3> it may not be called
hcf
L3482[18:47:40] <S3> on 6502 it
isnt
L3483[18:47:52] <S3> it's like HLT or
something
L3484[18:48:14] <Techokami> hangon, lemme
double check my piles of 68k docs
L3485[18:48:35] <S3> it also may have
been an ilegal 6502 instruction
L3486[18:48:43] <Techokami> I want to say
pulling DTACK would do it
L3487[18:49:12] <Techokami> but DTACK is
used for async stuff
L3488[18:50:17] <Techokami> because if
DTACK is high, the CPU just pauses and waits
L3489[18:50:23] <Techokami> until it goes
low
L3490[18:50:53] <S3> I cant delete my
.gradle dir
L3491[18:50:58] <S3> because it is in use
by another program
L3492[18:50:58] <Techokami> if you want
to use the 68k and not do async stuff, you ground DTACK
L3493[18:51:01] <S3> NO program is using
it
L3494[18:51:08] <Techokami> S3 time to
reboot
L3495[18:51:19] <S3> fuck this shit, I'm
going back to my BSD box
L3496[18:51:22] <SF-Toaster> rm -rf
?
L3497[18:51:39] <S3> SF-Toaster, yeah
doesnt work
L3498[18:51:44] <S3> it literally
complains
L3499[18:51:47] <SF-Toaster> wtf
L3500[18:51:49] <Techokami> reboot to
clear things out of memory, then rm -rf
L3501[18:51:53] <S3> rf -rf says the dir
isnt empty
L3503[18:51:58] <S3> its like, wat
L3504[18:52:01] <SF-Toaster> wtf
L3505[18:52:02] <SF-Toaster> why
L3506[18:52:07] <SF-Toaster> that's what
-r is for
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L3508[18:52:15] <SF-Toaster>
literally
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L3510[18:59:13] <S3> okay
L3511[18:59:19] <S3> retrying this
L3512[18:59:46] <gamax92> T_T stupid
opencomputers capturing my errors so that they aren't useful
L3513[19:01:14] <S3> I'm glad I have an
i7 4770K
L3514[19:01:20] <S3> otherwise this would
take forever
L3515[19:01:24] <gamax92> what
would
L3516[19:01:28] <S3> gradle
L3517[19:01:38] <S3> the decompile /
recompile process
L3518[19:01:52] <gamax92> >_>
because you need a fast CPU to setup gradle ...
L3519[19:01:58] <S3> right?
L3520[19:02:05] <gamax92> not right
L3521[19:02:18] <S3> I haven't even seen
if it is going to get OC yet
L3522[19:02:22] <S3> we'll see
L3523[19:02:47] <S3> didnt see anything
but its done, gonna take a look.. I know it saves it
somewhere..
L3524[19:04:16] <S3> I do not see an open
computers jar or anything
L3525[19:04:22] <Mimiru>
.gradle\caches\artifacts-##\filestore\li.cil.oc\OpenComputers
L3526[19:04:32] <S3> ok looking in
there
L3527[19:05:05] <S3> nope
L3528[19:05:14] <S3> never retrieved
it
L3529[19:06:06] <Mimiru> did you do your
IDE step too?
L3530[19:06:18] <Mimiru> gradlew
eclipse/idea?
L3531[19:06:21] <S3> I was doing this
without an IDE
L3532[19:06:29] <S3> it works fine
without it
L3533[19:06:29] <Mimiru> I'm so
sorry.
L3534[19:06:35] <S3> I mean I've done
this before.
L3535[19:06:42] <S3> but I have set up
IDEA yes
L3536[19:06:49] <S3> on BSD I just use
emacs with it
L3537[19:07:00] <S3> never had a
problem
L3538[19:07:10] <S3> w t f.
L3539[19:07:25] <S3> I live accross the
street from a bar, and it's kareoke night.
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L3541[19:08:13] <S3> last time they did
this, there was some plastered woman singing its my party for
hours
L3542[19:08:22] <S3> but instead of
singing they were screaming
L3543[19:08:54] <Mimiru> S3 I'm running
it now locally
L3544[19:09:33] <S3> the
build.gradle?
L3545[19:09:46] <Mimiru> My build.gradle,
seeing which step downloads OC
L3546[19:10:28] <Mimiru> setupDecomp does
not download oc
L3547[19:10:43] <Mimiru> gradlew eclipse
just did
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L3551[19:11:05] <S3> how does that even
make any sense
L3552[19:11:21] <Mimiru> 3 people told
you to run the ide step.. :P
L3554[19:11:31] <S3> I will rewrite
gradle
L3555[19:11:33] <Ekoserin|Off>
Demolition
L3557[19:11:37] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
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L3559[19:11:41] <S3> these devs are
trying the ballmers peak
L3560[19:11:41] <Mimiru> gl:hf
L3561[19:11:42] <Mimiru> I'm off
L3563[19:12:52] <Techokami> S3, answer
for your earlier question
L3565[19:13:02] <Techokami> 68k has a
built-in HCF
L3566[19:13:05] <Techokami> called
STOP
L3568[19:13:46] <Techokami> its older
brother, the 6800, has HCF, called HCF, and was the first case of
such a thing
L3569[19:14:47] <Techokami> to resume the
68k after using STOP you need an external interrupt
L3570[19:17:26] <Techokami> otherwise,
that's how you HCF a 68k
L3571[19:18:12] <Techokami> just that,
unlike the 6502 and 6800 that did this with undefined opcodes,
Motorola intentionally put that in there
L3573[19:24:39] <S3> Techokami, you know
whats funny about the 6502?
L3574[19:24:44] <S3> and the 6800
L3575[19:24:44] <Techokami> ?
L3576[19:24:51] <S3> the 6502 exists
because of it
L3577[19:24:56] <Techokami> hehehe
L3578[19:25:15] <S3> the 6502 is a $20 -
$30 replacement for the ~$300 6800
L3579[19:25:30] <Techokami> yeah the 6502
was made by ex-Motorola, same guys responsible for the 6800
L3580[19:25:36] <S3> whats really scary
is this
L3581[19:25:39] <S3> I have always loved
the 6502
L3582[19:25:45] <S3> its my favorite
arch
L3583[19:26:14] <Techokami> it's the
favorite of many!
L3584[19:26:14] <S3> and early this year
I discovered that the guy who designed the 6502 was born the same
place I was
L3585[19:26:19] <Techokami> woaj
L3586[19:26:21] <S3> and went to the same
university I do
L3587[19:26:25] <Techokami> wow
L3588[19:26:31] <S3> yeah like wat
L3589[19:26:58] <S3> he also helped
invent the electronic cash register
L3590[19:27:01] <S3> here in Maine
L3591[19:27:11] <Techokami> wow
L3592[19:27:18] <Techokami> also, you're
in Maine?
L3593[19:27:27] <Techokami> I'm down here
in Massachusetts
L3595[19:27:45] <Techokami> New England
represent
L3596[19:28:14] <S3> well at least I know
you don't code like you drive
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L3599[19:28:36] <Techokami> hey now, I'm
a very careful driver
L3600[19:28:38] <S3> ahahaha
L3601[19:28:46] <Techokami> my father, on
the other hand... >_>
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L3603[19:31:11] <S3> well hey
L3604[19:31:19] <S3> at least you guys
don't have township issues.
L3605[19:31:52] <S3> for the past 25
years, maine has been in danger, because a lot of its towns are
becoming ghost towns or townships.
L3606[19:32:17] <S3> all kids (cept me
and a few others) move out, and over 60 or 70% of the state is
seniors.
L3607[19:32:32] <S3> and the only
resources that arent dying is granite quarries
L3608[19:32:36] <S3> pretty much
L3609[19:32:39] <Techokami> owch
L3610[19:32:51] <S3> its better than I
say it but its a problem
L3611[19:33:10] <Techokami> yeah I hear
Vermont and New Hampshire are also having similar problems
L3612[19:33:26] <S3> it doesnt help that
towns are always 40 minutes from eachother and maine is like 99.9%
forest
L3613[19:33:49] <Techokami> Canada
Lite
L3614[19:33:52] <S3> but I did notice
something
L3615[19:33:57] <S3> the wolves are
moving back
L3616[19:34:01] <Techokami> \o/
L3617[19:34:15] <Techokami> DOGS!
L3618[19:34:18] <S3> and the coywolf
population is getting worse because of it
L3619[19:34:28] <S3> as in there are much
more
L3620[19:34:38] <S3> you have em
too
L3621[19:34:51] <Techokami> wolves, not
really
L3623[19:34:56] <Techokami> coyotes,
yes
L3624[19:34:56] <S3> coywolves
L3625[19:35:00] <S3> its what we have in
NE
L3626[19:35:27] <S3> coyotes bred with
wolves and the population grows, they're much bigger than the
little pups in say TX
L3627[19:35:38] <Temia> ...wow.
L3628[19:35:50] <gamax92> Welcome
back
L3629[19:35:52] <Techokami> ah, that
explains the coyotes around here
L3630[19:35:54] <S3> its been happening
way before youyr grandparents are born lol
L3631[19:35:56] <S3> yeah
L3632[19:36:01] <Temia> A tier 3 server
board with a tier 3 CPU and a full set of tier 3 component
buses...
L3633[19:36:03] <S3> they have larger
jaws, they hunt bigger game
L3634[19:36:06] <S3> they follow
people
L3635[19:36:11] <S3> like wolves
L3636[19:36:11] <Temia> ...still crashes
when I hook it to a ReactorCraft controller
L3637[19:36:23] <S3> its scary because
they are a lot stealthier than wolves
L3638[19:36:32] <S3> the follow people in
cities and shit and nobody ever sees them
L3639[19:36:36] <S3> usually for
food
L3640[19:36:42] <S3> I mean its rare they
ever would attack a person
L3641[19:36:58] <gamax92> Temia: is
reactorcraft just like, generating thousands of components or
something?
L3642[19:37:16] <S3> but think of it like
this, a slightly smaller wolf, acts like a wolf, thinks like a
coyote
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L3644[19:37:27] <Techokami> my dad does
nature photography and aside from one close encounter, the coyotes
in the area either leave him alone or proceed to fuck off when he
gets in the area
L3645[19:37:30] <S3> and coyotes are
incredibly smart like cats
L3646[19:37:46] <S3> yeah coyotes really
dont bother anyone
L3647[19:37:47] <Ekoserin> Running into
carpets and screen doors?
L3648[19:37:55] <S3> its just their
behavior can be creepy sometimes
L3650[19:38:09] <S3> animals in general
are more scared of you
L3651[19:38:43] <Techokami> there was one
time my dad accidentally spooked a coyote while he was taking
photos, and the coyote barked at him in a "FUCK YOU I JUST
LOST MY BREAKFAST" manner then fled
L3653[19:39:57] <Ekoserin> Coyotes can
bark?
L3654[19:40:42] <Techokami> the close
encounter was when a coyote followed him out of the woods back to
his car, he managed to make it gtfo but just in case, he does have
a hunting knife on his person to defend himself with
L3655[19:41:37] <gamax92> hmm, how to
video
L3656[19:42:02] <Lizzy> meep
L3657[19:44:21] *
Ekoserin bites into an onion and immediately regrets
it
L3658[19:44:40] <Lizzy> Moron
L3659[19:44:58] <Ekoserin> Can
confirm.
L3660[19:45:05] <vifino> LIZZY!!!
\o/
L3661[19:45:18] *
vifino Lizzysmoochhug <3 <3
L3662[19:45:28] <Mimiru> %g how to
video
L3663[19:45:29] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
http://www.howcast.com/ -
Howcast | The best
how-to videos on the web: "Learn how to do a smokey eye
with an airbrush in this Howcast video featuring
L3664[19:45:37] <Mimiru> There you go
gamax92. :P
L3665[19:46:11] *
Lizzy vifinosmoochhug <3
L3666[19:46:31] <gamax92> alright, now to
see if Youtube is going to be a piece of shit regarding processing
a video
L3667[19:46:37] <Techokami> oh wow we can
google from IRC?
L3668[19:46:43] <gamax92> Techokami: no,
it's all a lie
L3669[19:46:51] <Techokami> %g S100
68K
L3670[19:46:52] <MichiBot> Techokami:
http://www.s100computers.com/My%2520System%2520Pages/68000%2520Board/68K%2520CPU%2520Board.htm
-
S100 Computers - 68000 CPU Board: "Nov 5, 2014 ...
S100 Computers 68K CPU board. ... The Motorola 68K represents the
"other side
L3671[19:47:01] <Techokami>
anti-lie
L3672[19:47:01] <Lizzy> don't overdo
it
L3673[19:47:05] <Techokami> k
L3675[19:47:06] <MichiBot> gamax92:
DebugCard NBT Test | length
32s | Likes:
0 Dislikes:
0
Views:
0 | by gamax92
L3676[19:47:12] <Mimiru> sometimes the
URL encoding can be... stupid
L3677[19:47:13] <Mimiru> so...
L3678[19:47:14] <gamax92> watch and
stuffs
L3679[19:47:16] <Mimiru> Yeaaaaah
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L3681[19:47:56] <Mimiru> woah gamax92...
nice
L3682[19:48:03] <Techokami> siiiick
L3683[19:48:41] <Mimiru> "The import
li.cil cannot be resolved"
L3684[19:48:45] <Mimiru> Ummm what
eclipse?!
L3685[19:48:57] <gamax92> ?!?!
L3686[19:49:10] <Mimiru> [insert
interobang here]
L3687[19:49:11] <gamax92> Now to see if I
can put this in the DebugCard class
L3688[19:49:24] <Mimiru> ‽!
L3689[19:49:37] <gamax92>
interobangbang?
L3690[19:49:59] <Mimiru> ‽ ‽
L3691[19:50:20] <Mimiru> But no
seriously
L3692[19:50:22] <Mimiru> OS is bork
L3693[19:53:13] <Mimiru> I just had to
rerun gradlew eclipse
L3694[19:53:36] <Mimiru> So
strange..
L3696[19:54:39] <S3> so I wonder if
there's anything special I have to do if I am using IDEA
L3697[19:55:36] <Mimiru> I dunno if you
still have to do it, but there was a section you had to add to your
build.gradle to get assets working in debug
L3699[19:56:12] <Mimiru> idea { module {
inheritOutputDirs = true } }
L3700[19:56:12] <S3> well I should be
able to pull up the OC api or whatever now, wherever it went
L3701[19:57:39] <S3> I see now
L3702[19:57:44] <S3> then run gradlew and
it works
L3703[19:57:48] <S3> with idea as its
command
L3704[19:57:53] <S3> yeah its downloading
OC now
L3705[20:02:44] <S3> found it yay
L3706[20:07:36] <S3> this IDE is way more
scary and annoying than using emacs
L3707[20:07:43] <S3> why am I doing it
this way lol
L3708[20:12:23] <WireWulf> Shoulda used
vim
L3709[20:13:06] <S3> now they are using I
love rock n roll
L3710[20:13:11] <S3> I do use vim.. for
config files and stuff
L3711[20:13:16] <S3> but for programming
I use emacs
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L3713[20:14:12] <S3> I have spent the
past 3 minutes searching for a way to rename a directory. wtf
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L3715[20:14:17] <WireWulf> I have not
used emacs since collage
L3716[20:14:37] <WireWulf> That learning
curve
L3718[20:15:29] <S3> I've used it for
years
L3719[20:15:53] <gamax92> alright, time
to see if I can Scala
L3720[20:16:28] <S3> but I keep doing C-x
C-s in idea
L3722[20:16:35] <S3> and it keeps
deleting my shit and saving it
L3723[20:17:08] <gamax92> S3: why not
just use emacs then >_>
L3724[20:18:06] <WireWulf> Less gui
L3725[20:18:15] <gamax92> gradle doesn't
somehow force you to use the IDE you told it
L3726[20:18:40] <gamax92> it just does
stupid stuff and may or may not want you to have ran the IDE
command
L3727[20:18:57] <S3> gamax92, I should
setup emacs
L3728[20:19:03] <S3> yeah I know
L3729[20:19:07] <S3> I was using emacs
for OCSymon
L3730[20:19:12] <S3> but that was my BSD
bnox
L3731[20:19:14] <S3> box*
L3732[20:19:19] <WireWulf> GUI hippsters
demand less CLI/CLUE interfaces in codering
L3733[20:19:47] <S3> CLI guys demand less
GUI interfaces in codering
L3734[20:19:49] <gamax92> alright, now
building oc ...
L3735[20:20:39] <Temia> Gamax, it looks
like it is
L3736[20:20:47] <gamax92> Temia: ?
L3737[20:20:54] <WireWulf> S3: the GUI is
so shiny.....but that might be why I get zero work done
L3738[20:20:57] <Temia> Every TE in
Rotary/Reactorcraft seems to be a component and likewise extends
the component network.
L3739[20:21:08] *
gamax92 claps
L3740[20:21:11] <Temia> So any sizable
reactor quickly becomes hundreds of components.
L3741[20:21:32] <gamax92> now the
question is, who's fault is it
L3743[20:21:47] <WireWulf>
everybodies
L3744[20:22:25] <Temia> (Reika's)
L3745[20:22:50] <Temia> But seriously,
I'll see about talking to him and getting that worked out, or if
there's a workaround.
L3746[20:23:07] <WireWulf> *sarcastic
gasp* (I did not see that comming)
L3747[20:23:29] <gamax92> lol
WireWulf
L3748[20:24:01] <gamax92> ugh, download
deps for OC seems to be taking quite a while
L3749[20:28:55] <Mimiru> Reika knows
about it, or at least I'm like 99% sure they do.
L3750[20:30:06] <gamax92> "21 errors
found"
L3751[20:30:08] <gamax92> I cannot
scala
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L3756[20:42:59] <S3> I hate abstractness
in java
L3757[20:43:00] <S3> its so lame
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L3759[20:44:11] <S3> I apparently have to
abstract machine() in LujLuaArchitecture, but I have no idea what
the **** scala is doing to declare it
L3760[20:44:16] <S3> it looks like
Perl
L3761[20:46:36] <S3> maybe I should just
inherit the architecture class instead and just rewrite some of
this code..
L3762[20:46:50] <S3> its not a huge
class.
L3763[20:46:59] <S3> and I am talking to
myself again :)
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L3765[20:54:35] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Careful,
don't talk to yourself too much, you might get put in a mental
institution
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L3767[21:07:35] <DrHoffman> How... I
found a huuuuuge CPU bug
L3768[21:08:11] <DrHoffman> basically a
class of shifts wasn't implemented for all of the ALU instructions,
so it would shift wrong and cause other random shit
L3769[21:10:11] <Ekoserin> I wish I could
directly edit the RAM in OC.
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L3771[21:11:06] <evil_dan> Oh, this is
cool
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L3773[21:12:36] <DrHoffman> Hmm...
L3774[21:12:41] <DrHoffman> Multiply Long
also wasn't implemented.
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L3779[21:15:02] <DrHoffman> This still
doesn't include the possible CPU bugs in the actual implementation
of everything .-.
L3780[21:15:21] <DrHoffman> I would have
to go through and read the pages for every instruction to make sure
everything is being emulated correctly
L3781[21:15:55] <DrHoffman> Welp, time to
test it with existing code to see if anything's broken
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L3785[21:19:21] <Shuudoushi> ...
L3786[21:19:44] <Shuudoushi> anyone have
some extra info on 'shell.execute()' by any chance?
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L3788[21:20:35] <DrHoffman> ~w
shell
L3790[21:20:46] <Shuudoushi> ...
L3791[21:20:47] *
DrHoffman shrugs
L3792[21:20:52] <Shuudoushi> already
looked at that
L3794[21:24:28] <Shuudoushi> DrHoffman:
the thing that is driving me nuts ^
L3795[21:26:15] <DrHoffman> one sec
L3796[21:26:18] <DrHoffman> That is if
anything will load
L3797[21:27:07] <Shuudoushi> what it IS
doing: launching the program, what it ISN'T doing: launching the
program with the runtime args
L3798[21:28:39] <DrHoffman> You would do
the call like: shell.execute(path, nil, option1, option2,
option3...)
L3799[21:29:01] <DrHoffman> and to make
it better, you could do shell.execute(path, nil,
table.unpack(args,2))
L3800[21:29:06] <DrHoffman> .p
L3801[21:29:07] <^v> Ping reply from
DrHoffman 0.56s
L3802[21:29:16] <Shuudoushi> DrHoffman:
kk, thanks
L3803[21:29:34] <DrHoffman> any time
:P
L3804[21:29:53] <Shuudoushi> args,2 or
args[2]?
L3806[21:31:20] <Mimiru> :P
L3807[21:31:41] <Shuudoushi> i.e. the
latter
L3808[21:32:05] *
Mimiru sighs and goes back to KOTOR II
L3809[21:32:32] <Mimiru> You'll figure it
out...
L3810[21:33:59] *
Shuudoushi slaps Mimiru.
L3811[21:34:00] *
EnderBot2 high-fives Shuudoushi
L3812[21:34:22] <Shuudoushi> you know I
don't know much of shit about using the table lib -_-
L3813[21:34:23] <gamax92> ... I don't
even
L3814[21:34:35] <gamax92> found : ?0
where type ?0
L3815[21:34:35] <gamax92> required:
String
L3816[21:34:47] <Shuudoushi> o.O
L3817[21:34:47] <gamax92> I ...
what
L3818[21:34:53] <Shuudoushi> the fuck you
break>?
L3819[21:37:24] <Shuudoushi> ... now to
get it to remove the file that sudo makes...
L3820[21:37:31] <Shuudoushi> why isn't it
removing the file...
L3821[21:43:12] <Shuudoushi> this is just
wacky...
L3823[21:46:21] <gamax92> IT BUILT
L3824[21:46:59] <Shuudoushi> so no more
exploding?
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L3826[21:50:22] <gamax92> now to watch it
crash horribly as I try to use it
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L3828[21:50:48] <Shuudoushi> I should
probably add a check to deluser to see if the user even exist
still...
L3829[21:51:00] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: but
ofc :3
L3830[21:51:52] <gamax92> well, it just
returns nil ...
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L3832[21:57:42] <gamax92> cool, and my
world is corrupted
L3833[22:03:20] <Shuudoushi>
ouch...
L3834[22:03:46] <Shuudoushi> Mimiru:
looks like SOS 0.67 will be getting move to 'release' sometime
tonight
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L3839[22:17:19] <gamax92> anyway, it
appears to be working, but just not being returned to lua ...
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L3841[22:18:24] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: not
going to lie, my brain tried to run away after loading that
link...
L3842[22:21:23] <gamax92> Shuudoushi: but
there's a friendly a b c at the top
L3843[22:21:31] <Shuudoushi> lol
L3844[22:21:38] <Shuudoushi> fucker
L3845[22:24:16] <Temia> fpth. Reika says
it's impossible to fix the component problem. Called the absolute
max component of 64 really low.
L3846[22:24:20] *
Temia flops.
L3847[22:25:17] <Mimiru> Remember, this
is the same developer that can't properly use @Optional.. so
yeaaaaaaaaaah
L3848[22:25:46] <gamax92> Temia: that
seems ridiculous ...
L3849[22:26:28] <Ekoserin> GIVE ME BACK
MY HANDS!
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L3851[22:27:47] <Temia> And a lot of
these don't even need to be components.
L3852[22:28:17] <Mimiru> s/a lot of
these/99%/
L3853[22:28:17] <Kibibyte> <Temia>
And 99% don't even need to be components.
L3854[22:28:21] <Mimiru> eh
L3855[22:28:22] <Mimiru> close
enough
L3856[22:28:24] <Mimiru> I'm tired.
L3857[22:28:29] <Temia> The neutron
reflector only has getCoords() and getName() for functions. They
don't actually DO anything.
L3858[22:28:31] <Mimiru> s/a
lot/99%/
L3859[22:28:32] <Kibibyte> <Temia>
And 99% of these don't even need to be components.
L3860[22:28:33] <Mimiru> lol
L3861[22:28:57] <Temia> The turbines?
They'd be better served with an adapter. It's like Reika was
building for CC and added OC support as an afterthought.
L3862[22:29:11] <Temia> Because those
it's just learning how much is stored in their tanks.
L3863[22:29:39] <Temia> And... steam
lines? Gas ducts? Liquid pipes? SHAFTS? Those aren't even
components but they extend the component network and hook up to all
these other superfluous components!
L3864[22:30:04] <dangranos> well
shi~?
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L3867[22:30:37] <gamax92> I'm beginning
to think OC doesn't know how to convert a Scala Map to a Lua
table...
L3868[22:30:41] <Mimiru> Yeah the shaft
situation is a god damn joke.
L3869[22:31:11] <dangranos> "Problem
with the shafts"
L3870[22:31:16] <dangranos> >:3
L3871[22:33:38] <gamax92> "return
this.getMachine().isPipe() ? Visibility.Neighbors :
Visibility.Network;"
L3872[22:34:21] <gamax92> Temia: wanna
try a build that has Visibility.Neighbors always instead? That
seems really dumb to have that ^
L3873[22:38:38] <gamax92> hmm, I'm not
actually sure how that works with cables
L3874[22:41:15] <Shuudoushi> can anyone
think of any features I should add to SecureOS 0.67 before it gets
pushed to the release branch?
L3875[22:53:52] *
gamax92 pokes Temia
L3876[22:54:00] <Temia> moo.
L3877[22:54:23] <Temia> Build of which?
o3o
L3878[22:54:28] <gamax92>
ReactorCraft?
L3879[22:54:39] <Temia> ...Did you
disassemble it? >.>
L3881[22:54:51] <Temia> Oh.
L3882[22:55:08] <Temia> ...Weird, I
thought Reika kept his source closed.
L3883[22:55:28] <Temia> But sure.
>.>
L3884[22:55:44] <Mimiru> It's basically
"Visible Source" You can see it, you can behold it's
awesome, but you can'
L3885[22:55:51] <gamax92> t compile
it
L3886[22:55:54] <Mimiru> t modify it or
distribute it :P
L3887[22:56:15] <Mimiru> And we say fuck
that noise.
L3888[22:57:15] <Shuudoushi> lulz
L3889[23:01:23] <gamax92> alright,
testing it
L3890[23:03:55] <Ekoserin> Meow.
L3891[23:04:37] <dangranos> huh
L3892[23:04:47] <dangranos> that theme
fits much better with breeze
L3893[23:06:30] <gamax92> its ... now
complaining about "com.bioxx.tfc.api.Interfaces.ISize"
being missing? what
L3895[23:08:47] <Shuudoushi> why the fuck
is 'deluser.lua' broken now o.O
L3896[23:09:05] <Mimiru> tfc..
TeraFirmaCraft?
L3897[23:09:23] <Mimiru> The great
Umbrella Migration of 2015
L3898[23:09:41] <Ekoserin> There were no
survivors.
L3899[23:09:56] <Shuudoushi> lulz
L3900[23:13:37] <Shuudoushi> ...
L3902[23:23:52] <Shuudoushi> I 100% have
no fucking clue why deluser is no longer working...
L3903[23:24:13] <Shuudoushi> it works
fine from the UI, but just not command line...
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L3908[23:28:25] <DrHoffman> .p
L3909[23:28:25] <^v> Ping reply from
DrHoffman 0.44s
L3910[23:28:34] <Shuudoushi> .p
L3911[23:28:36] <^v> Ping reply from
Shuudoushi 0.56s
L3912[23:28:46] <Shuudoushi> hexchat, why
you lie to me?
L3913[23:29:08] <dangranos> ow
L3914[23:30:09] <DrHoffman> #lua
string.char(112)
L3915[23:30:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
p
L3916[23:31:01] <DrHoffman> OH MY FUCKING
GOSH YOU GUYS
L3917[23:31:09] <Ekoserin> ?
L3918[23:31:10] <Shuudoushi> ?
L3919[23:31:12] <DrHoffman> ARM os thing
now has shared libraries
L3920[23:31:18] <Shuudoushi> lol
L3921[23:31:21] <DrHoffman> It took me
literally all fucking day to do that
L3922[23:31:45] <Ekoserin> Sounds
important and/or cool. Cool.
L3923[23:31:53] <DrHoffman> The code was
there, but I was doing an unaligned read and shit hit the fan
L3924[23:31:56] <Shuudoushi> ok... I
think I broke something REALLY good this time... just not sure
how...
L3925[23:32:08] <DrHoffman> so I did a
string copy into a buffer that's aligned and ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L3926[23:32:17] <Shuudoushi> lol
L3927[23:32:46] <DrHoffman> Currently the
shared library calls software interrupt 2, which is unhandled, so
the OS shutsdown
L3928[23:32:55] <Shuudoushi> lol
L3929[23:33:01] <Shuudoushi> that's not
good
L3930[23:33:16] <DrHoffman> Actually,
even if it's handled it would still shut down
L3931[23:33:20] <DrHoffman> test code is
fun
L3932[23:33:30] <gamax92> Temia: might
take a while ... Reika has a system where it calculates the hash of
the mod, and kills mc with a message if it doesn't match whats in
the jar
L3933[23:33:43] <Shuudoushi> ...
L3934[23:33:47] <Mimiru> hahaha of
fucking course he does
L3935[23:33:56] <Shuudoushi> that's just
fucking wrong gamax92...
L3936[23:34:01] <Mimiru> Remind me why
anyone uses his piece of shit mods?
L3937[23:34:14] <Shuudoushi> b/c pretty
lights?
L3938[23:34:40] <Shuudoushi> and a few
more ways of making things go boom in a big way if not handld
right?
L3939[23:34:53] <Shuudoushi>
handled*
L3940[23:36:54] <Shuudoushi> WHY IS THIS
NOW BROKEN!!!!!!!!!!
L3941[23:37:32] <Shuudoushi> I've even
tried reverting it to an earlier version, one I know worked, and
it's still broken ><
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L3943[23:38:18] <Shuudoushi> ^ ban
evasion?
L3944[23:38:59] <Mimiru> no?
L3945[23:39:11] <Shuudoushi> from another
chan I mean
L3946[23:39:18] <Mimiru> Then why do we
care? :P
L3947[23:39:29] <Shuudoushi> just
wondering lol
L3949[23:41:15] <Mimiru> put LOTS of
debug prints in?
L3950[23:41:19] <Mimiru> I've gotta
run
L3951[23:41:32] <Shuudoushi> tried that,
nothing came back wrong...
L3952[23:41:35] <Mimiru> I'll be back in
a bit.. Gotta get last minute stuff for daughters birthday
L3953[23:41:44] <Shuudoushi> have fun
o/
L3954[23:41:52] <Shuudoushi> Mimiru:
DON'T FORGET THE PONY!
L3955[23:41:55] <Shuudoushi> lol
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L3958[23:44:16] <ThePotato> people still
on?
L3959[23:45:20] <Shuudoushi> nope
L3960[23:45:25] <ThePotato> mkay
L3961[23:45:38] <Shuudoushi> just
phantoms and whispers
L3962[23:45:59] <ThePotato> ohh ok
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L3964[23:50:35] <Shuudoushi> ok... so
it's not seeing the 'if #args == 1 then' bit...
L3965[23:50:37] <Shuudoushi> wtf..
L3966[23:51:30] <ThePotato> look at
fs
L3967[23:51:39] <ThePotato> should be
somthing about it in there
L3968[23:51:59] <Shuudoushi> ... I'm
working on code that was working but just stopped working...
L3969[23:52:12] <Shuudoushi> even after
reverting to known good code.
L3970[23:52:12] <ThePotato> hate that
shit
L3971[23:52:18] <dangranos> DrHoffman,
will you release when it's stable?
L3972[23:53:10] <dangranos> ugh
L3973[23:53:26] <dangranos> why some
little damn GTK theme overrides my KDE color theme?
L3974[23:53:30] <Shuudoushi> ...
L3975[23:53:37] <ThePotato> Shuudoushi:
do you know what a skypebot it?
L3977[23:53:48] <ThePotato> is*
L3978[23:53:53] <Shuudoushi> yes
L3979[23:54:11] <ThePotato> ok so i was
coding one in python8
L3980[23:54:13] <ThePotato> shit
L3981[23:54:17] <ThePotato> let me redo
that
L3982[23:54:18] <DrHoffman> dangranos:
sure
L3983[23:54:19] <Shuudoushi> I get them a
lot wanting to know if I'll go to their cam site and get my credit
card info stolen
L3984[23:54:37] <ThePotato> i mean the
one with commands like !help
L3985[23:54:48] <ThePotato> so i was
coding one one night and i get off
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L3988[23:55:03] <dangranos> hm
L3989[23:55:05] <ThePotato> i get back on
the next morning and the entire thing broke
L3990[23:55:15] <dangranos> and where is
the DARK version of theme?
L3992[23:55:44] <ThePotato> what os are
you using
L3993[23:55:53] <Shuudoushi> ThePotato:
that would be due to m$ updating something
L3994[23:55:59] <Shuudoushi> my own
L3995[23:56:05] <ThePotato> wut
L3996[23:56:06] <ThePotato> oh
L3997[23:56:09] <Shuudoushi> a heavily
modded OpenOS
L3998[23:56:20] <ThePotato> what you
add?
L3999[23:56:44] <Shuudoushi> multi-user,
permissions system, and tweaks
L4000[23:57:02] <ThePotato> how do i edit
code out of the game?
L4001[23:57:13] <ThePotato> (1.7)
L4002[23:57:42] <Shuudoushi> ...
L4003[23:57:48] <Shuudoushi> how do you
mean?
L4004[23:57:53] <ThePotato> np++
L4005[23:58:13] <Shuudoushi> I use atom
and update through github (I'm on a friends server)
L4006[23:58:43] <ThePotato> how
L4007[23:58:46] <ThePotato> and can i
join
L4008[23:59:09] <Shuudoushi> otherwise
you'd just open the files from <w/e you have MC
installed>/saves/opencomputers/<storage UUID>/
L4009[23:59:20] <ThePotato> isnt there a
config i have to edit
L4010[23:59:21] <ThePotato> ?
L4011[23:59:35] <Shuudoushi> and updater
I made using wget, and no
L4012[23:59:38] <Shuudoushi> yes
L4013[23:59:50] <Shuudoushi> well, you
don't have to edit the config