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L2[00:23:06] <SuPeRMiNoR2> whoops
L3[00:23:28] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i may have turned that district into a pool
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L9[00:52:32] <PotatoSleep> SuPeRMiNoR2, same: http://puu.sh/ilLN4/06e1706806.jpg
L10[00:58:50] <dangranos> C:S is win only?
L11[01:00:00] <PotatoSleep> no
L12[01:00:04] <PotatoSleep> all 3
L13[01:00:12] <PotatoSleep> Win, Lin, Mac
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L16[01:11:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> PotatoSleep: nice job
L17[01:12:01] <PotatoSleep> Yah
L18[01:19:06] <PotatoSleep> Mimiru, This is how I imagine you: http://puu.sh/ilMS3/f081a9f688.jpg
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L22[02:13:08] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L23[02:18:52] <PotatoTrumpet> voat.co/v/opencomputers
L24[02:19:23] <PotatoTrumpet> Since I have a feeling reddit is digging it's own grave
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L28[02:47:28] <Izaya> >moderators: PotatoTrumpet
L29[02:47:35] <Izaya> you little bastard
L30[02:48:06] <Izaya> it's nice that I don't have to wait 10 minutes for a page to load now, though
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L33[02:50:15] <dangranos> Izaya, your internet is so sloooooow
L34[02:50:23] <gamax92> wow best C decompiler ever
L35[02:50:35] <gamax92> embedding asm in a C file woo totally legit decompiler
L36[02:50:37] <Izaya> dangranos: voat was crashing yesterday
L37[02:50:39] <dangranos> i tried to load your site, i am surprised it didnt timedout
L38[02:50:45] <dangranos> gamax92, seems legit
L39[02:51:02] <Izaya> dangranos: oh, yeah, about that
L40[02:51:12] <Izaya> RAMNode supplies VPSes for $3.50/month
L41[02:51:17] <Izaya> I think I'll get one
L42[02:53:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> bout tree fiddy
L43[02:54:38] <Mimiru> bleh.
L44[02:54:56] <SuPeRMiNoR2> oh hi there
L45[02:55:16] <Mimiru> o/
L46[02:55:33] <SuPeRMiNoR2> \o
L47[02:55:50] <Izaya> \o/
L48[02:57:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i gotta re
L49[02:57:36] <SuPeRMiNoR2> fix my tablets keyboard
L50[02:58:02] <Mimiru> Oh?
L51[02:58:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> and release a power-monitor update (if my tablet will let me)
L52[02:58:19] <Mimiru> OS is killing my drive to MC. lol
L53[02:58:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i read that as operating system and i was like wtf?
L54[02:59:04] <Mimiru> I can get the sound to play, I can't change the sound, and I can't make it play from OC.
L55[02:59:08] <SuPeRMiNoR2> anyway, burn it with fire
L56[02:59:42] <Mimiru> I need to learn how to network it seems, since OC's methods are server side I have to send a packet to the client to play sound.
L57[02:59:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> should it say it
L58[03:00:22] <SuPeRMiNoR2> sounds like you are having problems XD
L59[03:00:35] <Mimiru> MC Sounds are effing evil.
L60[03:00:57] <Mimiru> And the forge channel is effing useless
L61[03:01:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> well, ofc
L62[03:02:26] <Mimiru> They have no problem telling you you're wrong. Explaining how, and why, or how to fix it.... not so good at.
L63[03:05:19] <SuPeRMiNoR2> sounds like a problem
L64[03:05:21] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ....
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L67[03:05:31] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i make myself sad
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L71[03:23:27] <PotatoTrumpet> Izaya, Yah
L72[03:23:38] <PotatoTrumpet> I am the single moderator
L73[03:23:59] <PotatoTrumpet> mostly b/c I waited 5 min for the page to load to see if it existed yet
L74[03:24:01] <PotatoTrumpet> now
L75[03:24:12] <PotatoTrumpet> time to disconnect from the interwebz to install photoshop
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L77[03:24:42] <Izaya> PotatoTrumpet: wait
L78[03:25:01] <Izaya> just block activate.adobe.com in your hosts file
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L83[03:33:01] <Mimiru> Gah fuckkit back to bed. Also PotatoTrumpet "http://puu.sh/ilMS3/f081a9f688.jpg
L84[03:33:02] <Mimiru> " wtf...
L85[03:33:12] <Mimiru> fuck you newline.
L86[03:34:00] <Mimiru> PS. got the alarm to play from OC, all that is missing is the actual sound effect change
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L88[03:41:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> wtf is a good response
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L90[03:47:23] <Mimiru> SuPeRMiNoR2, [01:19:11] <PotatoSleep> Mimiru, This is how I imagine you: http://puu.sh/ilMS3/f081a9f688.jpg
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L153[03:48:42] <TotallyNotKatie> %sed enable
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L161[03:54:09] <Mimiru> HOLY GFIGL:FIG#:IGRI:G#%P#G%
L162[03:54:13] <Mimiru> IT WORKED.
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L166[03:56:09] * Mimiru pokes Kodos
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L168[03:58:22] <Mimiru> Kodos, I can alarm.setAlarm("klaxon12") alarm.activate() and play the klaxon you linked, I then alarm.deactivate() alarm.setAlarm("klaxon1") alarm.activate() and play the default klaxon from NC2
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L277[05:17:39] <PotatoTrumpet> Thanks Izaya
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L279[05:19:25] <PotatoTrumpet> Mimiru, The link wont load
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L281[05:30:03] <Izaya> mortal
L282[05:30:33] <PotatoSleep> l a t e r z]
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L289[05:54:44] <Izaya> holy shit Resonant Rise is huge
L290[05:54:52] <Izaya> I watched like, 10 minutes of anime while it loaded
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L299[07:45:33] <daemon> been using opencomputers for a week, not stopped writing code yet lol
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L301[07:50:36] <Izaya> tis dangerous
L302[07:51:36] <dangranos> hm?
L303[07:55:39] <cloakable> Woot, agricraft added to the pack, now I'm just waiting on LanteaCraft and Immersive Engineering and I'll kick the pack to 2.0.0 :D
L304[07:56:07] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/Vjmn2vZ.png
L305[07:57:15] <daemon> Izaya, minecraft is one of those games that really needs some loving with a c# conversion -_-
L306[07:57:46] <Izaya> no
L307[07:57:48] <Izaya> nonononononno
L308[07:57:50] <Izaya> Java is one thing
L309[07:57:59] <daemon> Java is evil
L310[07:57:59] <Izaya> but I'd like my mods to work on stuff other than Winderps
L311[07:58:06] <daemon> errr (0_o)
L312[07:58:11] <Vexatos> No
L313[07:58:14] <daemon> mono works upto .net45
L314[07:58:22] <daemon> and ms has opensourced the entire stack
L315[07:58:26] <Vexatos> Java is one of the most CPU-efficient languages
L316[07:58:32] <Vexatos> there's simply too many ways of doing Java wrong
L317[07:58:33] <daemon> I develop in c#/mono right now on bsd
L318[07:58:34] <Izaya> 'cause like, C# runs on most major OSes
L319[07:58:41] <Vexatos> and Minecraft uses all of them
L320[07:58:42] <Vexatos> :P
L321[07:58:49] <Izaya> but then modders would use MS-specific libs
L322[07:59:00] <daemon> Izaya, there really is not that many
L323[07:59:03] <daemon> except 'winforms'
L324[07:59:04] <Izaya> and suddenly you'd have Windows-only mods
L325[07:59:13] <Izaya> oh, and mono is shit.
L326[07:59:20] <daemon> the issue is that the major 3d rendering engines are opentk and unity
L327[07:59:27] <daemon> and they both are opensource lin,mac,bsd,win
L328[07:59:55] <daemon> it would take some spectacular efforts to make something designed for the .net stack to be restricted to windows
L329[08:00:33] <daemon> Vexatos, minecraft or the modders of minecraft ;)
L330[08:00:44] <Vexatos> Minecraft
L331[08:00:54] <daemon> really I expected its core to be fairly clean
L332[08:01:01] <Vexatos> o--------o
L333[08:01:07] <Vexatos> have you even ever looked at that
L334[08:01:07] <daemon> not that I have looked
L335[08:01:10] <Vexatos> ....
L336[08:01:33] <cloakable> *coughcoughthermaldynamics*
L337[08:01:38] <daemon> Just kinda assumed with its popularity they would have a dedicated deployment schedule and system and it would all be quality checked etc
L338[08:01:49] <Vexatos> wat
L339[08:01:55] <Vexatos> w
L340[08:01:55] <Vexatos> a
L341[08:01:55] <Vexatos> t
L342[08:01:59] <daemon> take it not
L343[08:02:05] <Vexatos> .......
L344[08:02:11] <Izaya> remember, it was originally some random game notch made in 2008-2009
L345[08:02:13] <Vexatos> asie: You here? Read up.
L346[08:02:15] *** Keridos|away is now known as Keridos
L347[08:02:41] <daemon> Izaya, true but I kinda thought you know when we went up a mid branch 1.6->1.7 they would have done some tidying
L348[08:02:47] <daemon> especially now with 1.8
L349[08:03:10] <Izaya> Nah, Minecraft doesn't get optomised or clean
L350[08:03:16] <Izaya> they just add bullshit features!
L351[08:03:17] <Izaya> ie horses
L352[08:03:29] <Izaya> while pretending to be working on the modding API
L353[08:03:42] <daemon> that is one thing I have seen, you probably mean lack of api -_-
L354[08:04:11] <Izaya> hence pretending
L355[08:04:36] <cloakable> "Minecraft officially adopts Forge"
L356[08:04:38] <daemon> interesting did not know there was a ctrl code for italics
L357[08:04:39] <cloakable> end
L358[08:04:55] <Izaya> cloakable: that'd be a good day
L359[08:05:05] <Izaya> even better: "Microsoft hires Forge devs"
L360[08:05:22] <cloakable> It even does bold daemon
L361[08:05:28] <daemon> Izaya,+ "....To write c# version of mineraft"
L362[08:05:29] <daemon> :)
L363[08:05:39] <cloakable> !burn daemon
L364[08:05:42] <cloakable> D:
L365[08:05:45] <daemon> yeah I knew about bold and colours (background/ground)
L366[08:05:47] <daemon> just never italic
L367[08:05:48] <Izaya> you can even combine them
L368[08:05:56] <cloakable> :D
L369[08:05:58] <Izaya> :P
L370[08:06:15] <daemon> if you use mirc you can also do ctrl+r I think it is for inverted colours :)
L371[08:06:32] <Izaya> People still use mIRC?
L372[08:06:34] <dangranos> You can also do something like that
L373[08:06:39] <daemon> Izaya, no ide
L374[08:06:40] <daemon> a
L375[08:06:45] <cloakable> Fear my almighty unreadable text
L376[08:07:04] * Izaya highlights and reads the unreadable text
L377[08:07:11] <dangranos> You call that unreadable? Hah!
L378[08:07:45] * Izaya highlights and continues reading
L379[08:08:05] <cloakable> I can read that even without highlighting
L380[08:08:15] <daemon> better eyes than me
L381[08:08:15] <Izaya> Blurs.
L382[08:09:32] <dangranos> cloakable, And that too? Your font is sooo fat
L383[08:10:22] <Izaya> daemon: 4790k by chance?
L384[08:10:25] <cloakable> I like my fonts how I like my partners :3
L385[08:10:38] <Izaya> thin and with curves?
L386[08:10:50] <Izaya> angular?
L387[08:10:55] <Izaya> fixed-width?
L388[08:10:56] <daemon> http://i.imgur.com/ZaXJJCv.png
L389[08:10:58] <dangranos> fast and hard?
L390[08:11:06] <Izaya> easy to render?
L391[08:11:12] <dangranos> ^ lol
L392[08:11:21] <cloakable> haha
L393[08:11:36] <dangranos> ouch
L394[08:11:39] <daemon> easy to read from across room 8) why strain eyes
L395[08:11:40] <dangranos> how do you read that?
L396[08:11:48] <asie> daemon: silly
L397[08:11:50] <dangranos> it's white BOLD on black
L398[08:11:56] <asie> unity is only linux-compatible as they use an ancient version of mono
L399[08:12:02] <asie> they use it because they do not want to sign a new deal for commercial use
L400[08:12:08] <daemon> asie, no idea I use opentk 8)
L401[08:12:10] <asie> they'd gladly give it up if they could so they didn't have to deal with it
L402[08:12:18] <asie> besides, C# isn't my kind of language.
L403[08:12:27] <asie> i'm excited for selene myself
L404[08:12:47] <asie> (yes, i really am - lua is nice and easily embeddable but it lacked, well, features you'd expect from a proper programming language)
L405[08:13:05] <asie> (there are libraries which abstract away metatable magic to give a more or less proper object system, but little in terms of functional programming)
L406[08:13:09] <daemon> mhmm I kinda like c#, I can deploy a solution on my freebsd box and it will work on windows with litle or no modification, I flip between the two os's and have a few systems on either
L407[08:13:11] <Inari>
L408[08:13:12] <daemon> so a big advantage
L409[08:13:26] <asie> almost every language does this nowadays
L410[08:13:35] <asie> the languages which don't are countable on one hand, maybe two
L411[08:13:46] <asie> even compiled languages try to aim for multiplatform libraries
L412[08:13:46] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/u6O5JAT.png
L413[08:13:48] <Inari> ________________
L414[08:13:53] <asie> so it's not like it's a .net advantage
L415[08:14:01] * dangranos slaps Inari
L416[08:14:01] * EnderBot2 high-fives dangranos
L417[08:14:07] <asie> this is something people expect from a language nowadays and everyone provides it
L418[08:14:10] <dangranos> that was low, there was no text
L419[08:14:14] <cloakable> My pack rolls out onto Windows/Linux at least.
L420[08:14:16] <daemon> asie, can you name a compiled language with decent libs that does better than c#/mono?
L421[08:14:20] * dangranos hugs Izaya
L422[08:14:23] <Inari> the thing lua lacks is shorthand ops
L423[08:14:25] <asie> daemon: C# is not compiled
L424[08:14:26] <Vexatos> <asie> i'm excited for selene myself
L425[08:14:27] <Vexatos> :D
L426[08:14:27] <Vexatos> <3
L427[08:14:29] <dangranos> Solarized dark is best!
L428[08:14:29] <Izaya> dangranos: don't touch me.
L429[08:14:32] <asie> daemon: well, not exactly
L430[08:14:35] <asie> it's like Java in this regard
L431[08:14:47] <Izaya> but yes
L432[08:14:50] <asie> it compiles to a virtual machine which is then interpreted and functions which are executed very often get compiled via the JIT
L433[08:14:53] <Izaya> solarized is the best colour scheme
L434[08:14:54] <Inari> asie: to the question it doesnt matter if its compiled
L435[08:14:56] <daemon> asie, its compiled to IL then uses JIT I thought.
L436[08:15:00] <asie> Inari: but he asked "compiled"
L437[08:15:04] <asie> daemon: JIT is only used for often used functions
L438[08:15:07] <asie> as it is not a free operation
L439[08:15:10] <Inari> asie: is there a compiled language that does better than this other language
L440[08:15:17] <Inari> oither lanugage being compiled orn ot is irrelevant
L441[08:15:19] <asie> anyhow
L442[08:15:23] <asie> Swift is one which has huge potential
L443[08:15:28] <Inari> rust <3
L444[08:15:30] <asie> as it's backed by a large company and seems to be getting great libs from iOS devs
L445[08:15:40] <Izaya> rust is cool
L446[08:15:43] <asie> Rust has issues currently, and Go has great libs but the language is meh
L447[08:15:45] <Izaya> and they have a Winderps version now, too!
L448[08:15:56] <dangranos> Izaya, is that pragmata pro?
L449[08:16:05] <asie> besides... Java has great libs.
L450[08:16:07] <Izaya> they don't support the Windows version, but who uses Windows anyway? /s
L451[08:16:11] <Izaya> dangranos: yes
L452[08:16:11] <asie> you just need to know where to look
L453[08:16:20] * dangranos uses Pragmata Pro with size 9
L454[08:16:21] <Izaya> I've ended up really liking it
L455[08:16:31] <Izaya> yay for that idiot that left it on github
L456[08:16:41] <dangranos> Izaya, yup
L457[08:16:43] <asie> brb
L458[08:18:00] <dangranos> oh wow
L459[08:19:30] <Inari> asie: every language has issues
L460[08:20:39] <cloakable> Minecraft should be ported to COBOL
L461[08:20:44] * cloakable nods
L462[08:20:44] <dangranos> nearly every game i have installed (from steam) is updating now
L463[08:21:10] <dangranos> cloakable, to ASM
L464[08:21:13] <dangranos> MinecraftOS
L465[08:21:25] <dangranos> "now with ntfs!"
L466[08:21:32] <cloakable> :D
L467[08:21:55] <Inari> hrm meh
L468[08:22:04] <cloakable> dangranos: It's going to be the UI in Windows 11 I hear.
L469[08:22:09] <Inari> the 20fps restricton on OC makes it hard to do fluid games :P
L470[08:22:13] <dangranos> "New feature: *win8 tiles name here* for inventory!"
L471[08:22:21] <Inari> cloakable: i thought win 11 isnt a thing :P
L472[08:22:32] <dangranos> win11 will be a linux distro
L473[08:22:47] <Izaya> dangranos: don't you mean...
L474[08:22:51] <cloakable> Inari: This is me believing Microsoft press releases :D
L475[08:22:55] <Izaya> "Old Technology File System"?
L476[08:23:02] <cloakable> Minecrosoft
L477[08:23:24] <dangranos> MiNecrosoft
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L479[08:23:43] <Izaya> reviving solutions to stuff that were abandoned for a reason
L480[08:23:45] <dangranos> mine+necro+micro+soft :D
L481[08:23:52] <Izaya> *cough*DOS*cough*
L482[08:24:07] <dangranos> Izaya, Necrosoft's slogan?
L483[08:24:22] <Izaya> dangranos: basically
L484[08:25:01] <dangranos> Izaya, no, that would be (for apple) "Reviving solutions to stull microsoft abandoned long ago"
L485[08:25:14] <dangranos> s/no/also
L486[08:25:14] <Kibibyte> <dangranos> Izaya, also, that would be (for apple) "Reviving solutions to stull microsoft abandoned long ago"
L487[08:25:29] <Izaya> stull?
L488[08:25:33] <dangranos> *f
L489[08:25:47] <dangranos> i dont even know how that got here
L490[08:26:00] <Izaya> OS X: Because making UNIX user friendly was easier than debugging Windows.
L491[08:26:15] <dangranos> XD
L492[08:26:37] <CompanionCube> Izaya, OS X is a bastardised UNIX imho
L493[08:26:48] <dangranos> it is
L494[08:26:56] <Izaya> CompanionCube: Indeed.
L495[08:27:04] <Izaya> But at least it BSODs less than Windows, I guess
L496[08:27:08] <dangranos> hmm, would "XD" smile mean 490?
L497[08:27:18] <Izaya> I managed to make it do that while doing Minecraft
L498[08:27:24] <CompanionCube> Izaya, and instead of BSODs you get Kernel Panics
L499[08:27:25] <Izaya> dangranos: so funny it hurts?
L500[08:27:34] <Izaya> CompanionCube: yeah, true
L501[08:27:39] <Izaya> but they're not BSODs
L502[08:29:04] * Izaya hrms
L503[08:29:22] <Izaya> What do I want more: A 760 or a dual-socket 771 motherboard?
L504[08:29:38] <cloakable> dual-socket 2011 motherboard
L505[08:30:06] <Izaya> I can afford the $150 for a dual-socket 771 motherboard, and I already own two S771 Xeons
L506[08:30:12] <Izaya> plus about 16GB DDR2
L507[08:35:43] <cloakable> https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-633-AS next motherboard? xP
L508[08:36:44] <daemon> hey guys if I 'dofile(blah)' if blah happens to have errors the entire lua thread will crash, including the calling script
L509[08:36:48] <Izaya> nah, this haswell box will do me for now, but I want a solid VM host
L510[08:36:53] <daemon> is there anyway I can catch if the executiuon failed and continue
L511[08:37:11] <Vexatos> pcall(dofile, blah)
L512[08:37:19] <daemon> ah cool thank you Vexatos
L513[08:37:22] <Vexatos> local success, response = pcall(dofile, blah)
L514[08:37:33] <Izaya> worked, return1, return2, return3 = pcall(funct,arg1,arg2)
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L516[08:37:52] <daemon> I do not really need to catch why it failed in this case, just need the caller to continue
L517[08:38:17] <Izaya> then just use pcall
L518[08:38:21] <daemon> yep :)
L519[08:39:16] <Izaya> cloakable: that is a damn nice motherboard though, I want it... one day...
L520[08:39:24] <Izaya> Eventually I'll be able to buy it for a few bucks
L521[08:41:17] <dangranos> D:
L522[08:41:27] <dangranos> pneumaticraft's last update was... in 2014
L523[08:41:59] <Vexatos> except it was half a week ago
L524[08:42:10] <dangranos> oh
L525[08:42:12] <Vexatos> when I fixed some issue with OpenComputers integration
L526[08:42:17] <dangranos> i was looking at his site
L527[08:43:13] <dangranos> i bet version "1.7.10-1.8.1" looks confusing
L528[08:45:26] <cloakable> Izaya: I'll probably settle for a single socket 2011 board :D
L529[08:45:58] <Izaya> All my old desktops eventually end up as servers, so I'll go for overkill, because if I can, I will.
L530[08:46:04] <Izaya> However, with current funding, I can.t
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L532[08:46:06] <Izaya> can't*
L533[08:48:03] <cloakable> Wait, pneumaticcraft is killing off the plants? :D
L534[08:48:23] <dangranos> "Player death is an option in the map editor" lol
L535[08:51:11] <cloakable> I need to update pneumaticcraft at some point >.>
L536[08:58:26] <Inari> i liked the plants
L537[09:01:22] <cloakable> I'm not really a fan
L538[09:02:14] * cloakable hops Pneumaticcraft is more automatable now too >.>
L539[09:02:32] <dangranos> cloakable, of course you arent a fan, you are more pump :P
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L541[09:02:48] <cloakable> :P
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L543[09:14:39] <Krutoy242> Question: How to make unicode.gmatch() ?
L544[09:16:45] <daemon> I removed pneumaticcraft after it started spawning little weird green mushroom type thigs everywhere
L545[09:18:27] <cloakable> Huh, what?
L546[09:19:22] <daemon> these weird green little fungus things
L547[09:19:25] <daemon> plants
L548[09:19:33] <daemon> 100's of them spawned all over the place
L549[09:20:16] <Inari> http://waa.ai/vmCq\/df4ceb dat pro coding
L550[09:20:56] <daemon> cloakable, these things: http://www.minemaarten.com/wikis/pneumaticcraft-wiki/pneumaticcraft-wiki-plastic-plantsseeds/
L551[09:22:01] <cloakable> Yea, that's the thing that's been removed apparently
L552[09:22:45] <daemon> ah great, will try a reinstall of it next release
L553[09:26:23] <cloakable> Yea, I have in my pack but rarely use. Automating it was a nightmare, too much manual work.
L554[09:28:34] <daemon> hey is it possible to automate tinkers construct
L555[09:28:38] <daemon> for repairing tools at the tool forge
L556[09:28:42] * cloakable glares at the compression chamber
L557[09:28:50] <cloakable> Not sure
L558[09:29:12] <cloakable> I just slap on RF and be done usually
L559[09:29:20] <daemon> me don't suppose it matters I just stuck mossx2 on my robots pick
L560[09:29:22] <daemon> so it auto repairs
L561[09:29:44] <cloakable> That works
L562[09:30:14] <daemon> still bloody coding -_- one day I will get to use the bloody mod lol
L563[09:31:20] <cloakable> I haven't bothered with robots :D
L564[09:31:55] <daemon> I have wrote a kinda virus, got a tier 3 server with wireless that holds a reference grid of maximum bounds, a computer next to it uploads updates
L565[09:32:13] <daemon> robots automatically register and mine what blocks other robots have seen within the boundary grid the server holds
L566[09:32:45] <daemon> they have the chunklaoder mod too, so basically you put some co-ordinates into the server and the bots work like a massive mine force to just obliterate everything within the bounds
L567[09:32:52] <daemon> target size atm is 1000x1000x100
L568[09:33:47] <daemon> editor and server done fully but the robots are a bit buggy when it comes to applying updates
L569[09:33:54] <daemon> the occastionally seem to think 'fuck it'
L570[09:33:57] <daemon> and bugger off and do there own thing
L571[09:33:58] <daemon> lol
L572[09:34:34] <cloakable> Heh
L573[09:35:02] <cloakable> I'm lazy, I pop down a enderquarry and some markers and watch the resources roll in
L574[09:35:26] <dangranos> sooo
L575[09:35:58] <cloakable> daemon: be aware that robots can only climb now, not fly (high) unless you give them an upgrade.
L576[09:36:07] <dangranos> 2 years ago i got "banned" (i just was required to say "yep i understand i did something wrong") and didnt answered until now
L577[09:36:15] <daemon> cloakable, yep they have tier1 hover
L578[09:36:28] <dangranos> i wonder how stupid that looks
L579[09:36:35] <daemon> cloakable, so other than the crap the floating ruins mod throws up, they clear entire areas
L580[09:36:45] <cloakable> heh
L581[09:37:07] <cloakable> dangranos: where's this? xD
L582[09:38:02] <dangranos> cloakable, a server that kept it's ban data for 2 years minimum
L583[09:38:24] <cloakable> aha heh
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L586[09:52:10] <dangranos> no
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L588[09:52:17] <dangranos> that's THREE years old ban
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L591[09:55:01] <asie> uhhhhh.
L592[09:55:10] <asie> "no such component" when trying to boot a new OC computer on a new world
L593[09:55:13] <asie> what am i missing?
L594[09:55:58] <Vexatos> do you has EEPROM and OpenOS floppy?
L595[09:56:13] <asie> yes
L596[09:56:20] <asie> if i don't have either i get the proper error
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L598[09:56:41] <Vexatos> Hmmmm
L599[09:56:43] <dangranos> try to change arch to lua
L600[09:56:49] <Vexatos> yeaaa
L601[09:56:59] <asie> lua 5.2 is what i have right now
L602[09:57:03] <Vexatos> shift-right click the CPU :P
L603[09:57:05] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L604[09:57:29] <asie> nada
L605[09:57:32] <asie> "Last error: no such component"
L606[09:58:12] <Krutoy242> Vexatos, How to make unicode.gmatch() ?
L607[09:58:21] <Vexatos> when in doubt, check source code
L608[09:58:23] * Vexatos looks
L609[09:58:38] <Vexatos> asie: That just means some component is missing
L610[09:58:43] <Vexatos> maybe a graphics card
L611[09:58:44] <Vexatos> or a screen?
L612[09:58:49] <asie> both were there
L613[09:58:55] <asie> but i removed and placed the case
L614[09:58:57] <asie> and it worked
L615[09:59:02] <Vexatos> o-O
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L618[09:59:41] <monje> hi
L619[10:00:37] <asie> Vexatos: it crowd logic
L620[10:00:58] <monje> Can someone help me out? As I have to configure the application.conf to avoid wasting energy the objects
L621[10:01:16] <Krutoy242> Vexatos, unicode havent match or gmatch. So, is this impossible to do on OC?
L622[10:02:48] <dangranos> hm
L623[10:03:05] <dangranos> i think OC in last versions has a problem with mergin networks :|
L624[10:03:14] <dangranos> *merging
L625[10:13:32] <monje> Nobody knows how to disable the power consumption in the mod?
L626[10:14:21] <dangranos> monje, it's all in the config
L627[10:15:36] <monje> I've checked the settings but not exctamente where I have to change
L628[10:17:52] <cloakable> ignorePower=false
L629[10:18:10] <daemon> there is a fun bug with oc, if you have a server rack and a standard computer case(no wired nic) and 1 of the servers has a wireless nic as well as the one computer net.distribute(N,M) will be receieved twice on the server
L630[10:19:18] <Inari> vexy :o
L631[10:21:07] <Inari> vexy reminds me of vixen
L632[10:21:38] <monje> Thanks but I already tried and continues to spend energy intake
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L634[10:22:17] <cloakable> Yeah, it doesn't /stop/ it, just makes the check return true regardless
L635[10:22:41] <cloakable> Don't hook computers up to energy and they'll continue to run regardless.
L636[10:22:53] <cloakable> Probably.
L637[10:23:02] <cloakable> I keep power turned on myself :D
L638[10:23:17] <daemon> or just whack a couple of solar panels from mekanism up and stick 9 batteries behind it :)
L639[10:25:03] <daemon> hey odd thought .... if you have the chunkloader update on your bots, and 2 solar upgrades and the bots have no monitors .. so they charge when stationary, if one of those fecks off across the map will it just keep going pissing your cpu off forever?
L640[10:26:20] <cloakable> Lol
L641[10:26:33] <cloakable> Put it on a drone
L642[10:27:55] <daemon> I will do just before next modpack update because then if it does work server will need to reboot for upgrades :P
L643[10:30:56] <daemon> wait that won't matter
L644[10:30:59] <daemon> it will be saved in the world
L645[10:31:02] <daemon> hmm...
L646[10:31:09] <daemon> ok thats a test for singleplayer creative mode
L647[10:32:59] <monje> we must give some energy to boot the PC, then do not consume energy
L648[10:38:44] <monje> Thanks for the help
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L650[10:44:13] <daemon> hey all one of you gave me the name of a lua function to run a script like dofile that would not cause the calling script to fail if the child script failed
L651[10:44:21] <daemon> pdot,prun or something like that?
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L655[11:11:51] <gamax92> daemon: pcall
L656[11:12:01] <daemon> gamax92, thats the one, cheers
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L658[11:12:10] <gamax92> daemon: xpcall if you need to get a traceback
L659[11:13:03] <daemon> gamax92, nah my system implements a distributed upgrade system for robots, but no test stage, so if I push an update and its got an error in it, it needs to continue on and re run the update for the patch I push a few minutes later (after some swearing) :)
L660[11:13:49] <daemon> I am starting to wonder though just how reliable wireless is though .. I am sure it randomly loses one or two packets
L661[11:13:54] <daemon> might jsut be me though
L662[11:23:10] <Mimiru> justh ad to push an ew build of OpenSecurity to fix a derp... lol
L663[11:23:27] <Mimiru> At some point today I have to texture/model stuff
L664[11:23:37] <Mimiru> but first... gotta take kids to a carnival
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L666[11:26:14] <daemon> is there anything special about pcall...
L667[11:26:19] <daemon> it appears to return nearly immediat
L668[11:26:27] <daemon> evne if the script does not fail
L669[11:26:40] <daemon> ahhh wait it was
L670[11:26:45] <daemon> pcall(X,'script')
L671[11:27:16] <daemon> no hmm
L672[11:27:27] <daemon> do I need pcall(dofile(...))
L673[11:28:11] <daemon> ah ha that got it
L674[11:30:10] <gamax92> uuuuh
L675[11:31:47] <gamax92> daemon: that should be loadfile
L676[11:32:04] <daemon> gamax92, the pcall or the dofile
L677[11:32:08] <gamax92> dofile
L678[11:32:22] <daemon> ok let me look up on the docs on that, cheers ^_^
L679[11:32:23] <gamax92> when you do dofile, dofile is the one executing the function, not pcall, therefor it's not capturing errors
L680[11:32:42] <daemon> will load file also make variables in the parent scope availible to the child?
L681[11:33:03] <gamax92> what, local variables?
L682[11:33:35] <daemon> well, if in the parent I had: local blah = require("compost") if true then pcall(loadfile('/someshit.lua')) end
L683[11:33:43] <daemon> would someshit.lua be able to use 'blah' ?
L684[11:33:47] <gamax92> no
L685[11:33:52] <daemon> anyway I can do that
L686[11:33:53] <gamax92> and it still wouldn't even if it was dofile
L687[11:34:44] <daemon> yes I am aware I cannot in a dofile, but it would be good memory wise if I did not have to load components twice, once in the parent once in the child
L688[11:35:23] <gamax92> daemon: memory wise is just another pointer which takes up so little memory you shouldn't care about it
L689[11:35:37] <gamax92> you also aren't loading components twice, remember that package cache?
L690[11:35:43] <daemon> ah so it does not actual load the library resident per script
L691[11:35:51] <daemon> cool
L692[11:35:53] <daemon> ok
L693[11:36:26] <daemon> thank you again for the help :)
L694[11:36:44] <daemon> any idea how I can make it run perl instead of lua :D
L695[11:36:45] * daemon ducks
L696[11:37:03] <gamax92> Write a perl architecture for OC
L697[11:37:09] <gamax92> or write perl in lua
L698[11:37:20] <daemon> would be a nightmare, I believe lua is present in java already, perl would need dynamically linking
L699[11:37:57] <daemon> then again I think someone did write a miniperl interpreter for java
L700[11:38:02] <gamax92> lua in OC is also a separate library (when not using luaj)
L701[11:38:20] <daemon> yeah I notied that, when I run my modpack on my bsd server I get a so link to lua
L702[11:38:35] <daemon> does not appear on th windows server, I assume windows hosts = luaJ, linuxZbsd = native
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L704[11:38:50] <Mimiru> you get a lua dll on windows
L705[11:38:52] <gamax92> windows also has natives for it
L706[11:38:58] <Mimiru> can confirm, ran a MC server with oc on windows
L707[11:39:06] <gamax92> You would know because the server would yell at you in chat about it
L708[11:39:12] <gamax92> (that it's running luaj)
L709[11:39:20] <daemon> gotcha
L710[11:39:32] <gamax92> Also I haven't done any perl in a long time
L711[11:39:46] <Mimiru> "OpenComputersMod-1.5.11.25-native.64.dll" :P
L712[11:39:47] <daemon> gamax92, I would quite literally murder somene right now to have access to POE -_-
L713[11:39:56] <gamax92> what is?
L714[11:40:00] <daemon> Perl Object Enviroment
L715[11:40:05] <daemon> non blocking, non forking framework
L716[11:40:12] <Mimiru> Power Over Ethernet? :P
L717[11:40:34] <daemon> :-)
L718[11:41:00] <daemon> http://poe.perl.org
L719[11:41:03] <daemon> if you fancy a play
L720[11:41:18] <daemon> the author has started on reflex though if you preffer moose style protections and extensions
L721[11:41:48] <Vexatos> should have called it Perl Object Programming Environment
L722[11:42:02] <daemon> Vexatos, it came out before power over ethernet
L723[11:42:18] <Vexatos> Just so you can pronounce it properly
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L726[11:44:17] <daemon> ok deffinetly confirmed it this time
L727[11:44:25] <daemon> what is the packet loss algo for wireless transfer
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L729[11:44:43] <daemon> because I am definitely losing random lines when I trnasfer files over wireless cards
L730[11:45:29] <gamax92> My wireless network is over the internet
L731[11:45:35] <gamax92> because I can
L732[11:45:56] <daemon> when my robot pulls an update from my server it will lose probably ... 0.5% of the file transferred
L733[11:46:01] <daemon> just forced update 3 times
L734[11:46:08] <daemon> what it loses is totally random, it might not lose any
L735[11:46:25] <daemon> so what is the deal with packet loss and wireless
L736[11:47:13] <daemon> christ having to implement a basic TCP in lua this will be messed up
L737[11:47:15] <daemon> unless its a bug
L738[11:47:44] <gamax92> well you don't have to go full TCP
L739[11:48:42] <daemon> no ill just add a 'size' header to the tcp send
L740[11:49:01] <daemon> if the file does ~= it at the end resend
L741[11:49:04] <daemon> but it concernes me slightly
L742[11:49:21] <daemon> I have seen no details of how packet loss happens
L743[11:49:46] <daemon> especially when each device is a total distance of 4m away from each other
L744[11:51:03] <daemon> maybe I can just make a send buffer, and make the recipitents send textual ACK,SIZE's back
L745[11:51:06] <daemon> hmm
L746[11:51:51] <gamax92> daemon: http://hastebin.com/owesemiqik.txt is what I have
L747[11:52:05] <gamax92> may or may not be based off a real life protocol (no not TCP)
L748[11:52:33] <daemon> torrent data blocks?
L749[11:52:58] <daemon> does the linked in card suffer with loss as well?
L750[11:54:27] * gamax92 shrugs, never used it before
L751[11:55:13] <daemon> think I will just make a loadable lib to handle it all
L752[12:02:45] <Krutoy242> gamax92, maybe you know how to make unicode.gmatch() on OC?
L753[12:03:15] <gamax92> to match what
L754[12:04:58] <gamax92> (doesn't answer)
L755[12:05:06] <Krutoy242> to match string. I want to find positions of two letters
L756[12:05:40] <Krutoy242> Like, find positions of all braked words
L757[12:05:49] <gamax92> braked?
L758[12:06:33] <Krutoy242> Sorry, im not good in anglish. I mean this -> []
L759[12:06:52] <gamax92> bracket
L760[12:07:29] <gamax92> gmatch doesn't return position iirc
L761[12:08:04] <daemon> Krutoy242, there called 'square brackets' just out of interest; square bracket -> [], parenthesis -> {}, round brackets -> ()
L762[12:08:41] <gamax92> uhh, () is parenthesis, {} is curly bracket
L763[12:08:51] <daemon> really
L764[12:09:07] <gamax92> yeys
L765[12:09:12] <Vexatos> {} braces, () brackets
L766[12:09:14] <daemon> shit it is
L767[12:09:15] <daemon> whoops
L768[12:09:16] <Vexatos> [] square brackets
L769[12:09:23] <Vexatos> :3
L770[12:09:26] <Krutoy242> And they all brackets
L771[12:09:29] <daemon> Krutoy242, there called 'square brackets' just out of interest; square bracket -> [], parenthesis -> (), curly brackets -> {}
L772[12:09:31] <gamax92> Vexatos: alternatively that
L773[12:09:36] <daemon> Krutoy242, yes
L774[12:10:58] <Krutoy242> gamax92, ok then, how to do unicode.find() ?
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L776[12:11:12] <Krutoy242> I made mistake. I need find() instead gmatch()
L777[12:13:39] <Kodos> Steam Summer Sale, stop being bad
L778[12:13:53] <Krutoy242> And, what doing unicode.wtrunc() ?
L779[12:14:13] <daemon> Kodos, its good to be bad 8)
L780[12:14:26] <gamax92> wtrunc truncates a string up to but not including a specified width
L781[12:14:37] <gamax92> if there aren't enough characters to make that width, then it errors
L782[12:15:50] <Krutoy242> gamax92, so, wtrunk is same as sub() with first parameter 1 ?
L783[12:16:12] <gamax92> no not at all
L784[12:16:30] <gamax92> sub will cut at characters, but wtrunc cuts with width
L785[12:16:39] <daemon> I think someone needs to read over the welcome to lua documents
L786[12:16:51] <gamax92> nah wtrunc is confusingly stupid
L787[12:17:24] <Krutoy242> daemon, wtrunk is not native Lua function.
L788[12:17:36] <daemon> ok dokey
L789[12:18:14] <Krutoy242> Ok, thanks gamax92, now i get it. But what about find() ?
L790[12:19:18] <gamax92> I'm working on it
L791[12:19:26] <Krutoy242> Ok =)
L792[12:19:53] <daemon> I can't see .find() within http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:unicode
L793[12:19:56] <Keridos> how can i get openos on a turtle after assembling it?
L794[12:20:09] <Vexatos> Keridos, have you put a disk drive in the robot?
L795[12:20:13] <Keridos> no
L796[12:20:23] <Vexatos> and you did not install OpenOS on the HDD you inserted before you inserted it?
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L798[12:20:33] <Keridos> nope thought i could access it later
L799[12:20:34] <daemon> Keridos, disassembler :)
L800[12:20:39] <Vexatos> You can
L801[12:20:41] <Vexatos> Well
L802[12:20:43] <Vexatos> you could
L803[12:20:45] <Vexatos> if you had a disk drive
L804[12:20:49] <Vexatos> in the robot
L805[12:20:58] <Vexatos> Have fun disassembling
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L807[12:22:54] <Krutoy242> How to rewrite standart # function? For example, change # to unicode.len?
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L809[12:25:43] <PotatoTrumpet> Mimiru, What did you think of that image last night
L810[12:28:51] <daemon> sexy time?
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L812[12:37:32] <gamax92> Krutoy242: http://hastebin.com/wepovabipo.lua
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L814[12:38:11] <Krutoy242> gamax92 Thanks, will use it. Tested?
L815[12:38:16] <gamax92> Tested some what
L816[12:39:34] <gamax92> .l nil < 0
L817[12:39:39] <gamax92> #lua nil < 0
L818[12:39:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > lua:1: attempt to compare nil with number
L819[12:39:43] <gamax92> dammit, bugs
L820[12:40:10] <Krutoy242> Why find not implemented in OC outside lua?
L821[12:40:45] <Krutoy242> Like sub or wtrunk does?
L822[12:41:15] <gamax92> Krutoy242: sub and wtrunk don't have pattern matching, which make it really simple to implement
L823[12:41:17] <Kodos> Oh God
L824[12:41:19] <gamax92> find supports pattern matching
L825[12:41:30] <Kodos> One of the Lua testing tools I use is apparently using Lua 4.0
L826[12:41:40] <gamax92> Kodos: lol
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L828[12:42:53] <gamax92> Krutoy242: http://hastebin.com/ahokunomec.lua
L829[12:44:38] <Krutoy242> Let me test it
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L831[12:46:55] <PotatoTrumpet> Kodos, Just pirate lua 5.3
L832[12:48:15] <Kodos> PotatoTrumpet, that'd be great, but I'm not in charge of the sourceforge
L833[12:49:06] <PotatoTrumpet> kk
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L835[12:52:41] <Keridos> btw what are the other things in /mnt except the drives?
L836[12:52:58] <Kodos> Run 'df' and find out
L837[12:54:02] <Keridos> ah tmp and tmpfs
L838[12:54:25] <Keridos> ah both tmpfs?
L839[12:55:32] <Krutoy242> gamax92, tested. Seems like works fine! Thank you very much, i will make automatic layouts based on this.
L840[12:56:20] <daemon> can I insert a table as a record into a table
L841[12:56:32] <daemon> table.insert(N,{blah,bleh,lol})
L842[12:56:40] <daemon> and if so how do I access that table?
L843[12:56:40] <gamax92> yes ofc.
L844[12:56:46] <gamax92> by its respective index
L845[12:56:49] <daemon> table[N][N]
L846[12:56:58] <daemon> cool thank you
L847[12:57:05] <gamax92> err
L848[12:57:20] <gamax92> what is N supposed to be, because your usage of it in table.insert wouldn't be correct
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L850[12:58:13] <daemon> local lol = "lol", local x = {}, x.insert(1,{lol}), print("lol?",x[0][0])
L851[12:58:21] <daemon> local lol = "lol", local x = {}, x.insert(1,{lol}), print("lol?",x[1][1])
L852[12:58:27] <daemon> sorry forgot in lua it starts at 1
L853[12:58:33] <gamax92> yeah that'd work
L854[12:58:41] <daemon> lovely ta
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L856[12:58:54] <gamax92> I read table not as a generic table but as the lua library
L857[12:59:11] <daemon> btw ... if I insert at 1, does insert prepend the record or append
L858[12:59:33] <daemon> local lol = "lol", local x = {}, x.insert(1,{lol}), x.insert(1,{nolol}), print("lol?",x[1][1])
L859[12:59:37] <daemon> would that be nolol or lol
L860[12:59:43] <gamax92> nolol
L861[12:59:47] <daemon> ah append
L862[12:59:49] <daemon> cool ok
L863[13:03:05] <daemon> gamax92, this will be fun to debug if I fucked up : http://i.imgur.com/wQCS4qV.png
L864[13:03:06] <daemon> :D
L865[13:03:24] <gamax92> heh
L866[13:03:35] <gamax92> daemon: a t2 screen is so worth it though.
L867[13:03:51] <daemon> gamax92, tier 2 case and this box is wireless ;)
L868[13:04:02] <daemon> ah wait this is the tier 3 server
L869[13:04:14] <daemon> .. should have a spare tier2 gfx&monitor somewhere
L870[13:05:51] <daemon> gamax92, what we need is ssh access
L871[13:06:04] <daemon> so I can crack this crap open on my desktop lol
L872[13:06:37] <gamax92> daemon: like, actual computer desktop?
L873[13:06:41] <daemon> yes
L874[13:07:17] <daemon> yeah I am aware why that is not possible
L875[13:07:18] <gamax92> http://hastebin.com/kehuwisice.lua gamax92 wtf
L876[13:07:23] <gamax92> daemon: it is possible
L877[13:07:44] <daemon> gamax92, from what I understand though would that not open the ports required on the server
L878[13:08:06] <daemon> be a bit dodgy security wise
L879[13:08:15] <gamax92> not at all
L880[13:08:18] <daemon> not for real security ofc, but a ddos target
L881[13:08:34] <daemon> I doubt whatever emulated shell was created would not be able to cope with attack
L882[13:08:36] <gamax92> you just do it the X way
L883[13:09:01] <gamax92> instead of the oc computer being the server, it is the client
L884[13:09:15] <gamax92> (mainly because you have to do it that way)
L885[13:09:35] <daemon> hmm
L886[13:09:38] <daemon> could be interesting
L887[13:09:58] <gamax92> anyway I've done that before, it's horridly slow though thanks to the internet card
L888[13:11:33] <daemon> what would be nice is some sort of card that was based on the internet card that allowed whatever to mount nfs/cifs back to an ip
L889[13:11:44] <daemon> net mounted rootfs
L890[13:12:03] <daemon> that way clients could open up some service on their machines and edit files locally
L891[13:12:15] <gamax92> i have sorta that
L892[13:13:12] <gamax92> ocnetfs, it mounts an external folder via ocnetfs's server onto the OC machine
L893[13:14:03] <daemon> thats pretty cool
L894[13:14:21] <daemon> should be more documented, to me it seems the people that use opencomputers tend to be ...
L895[13:14:26] <daemon> of more a technical nature
L896[13:14:31] <daemon> everyone who is not uses computercraft
L897[13:14:40] <daemon> so it would be good to push more exotic solutions
L898[13:14:50] <gamax92> document what?
L899[13:15:03] <Kodos> Why not just turn off buffering, and edit locally anyway?
L900[13:15:04] <daemon> external folder mount
L901[13:15:13] <daemon> Kodos, server is over 200 miles away
L902[13:15:19] <gamax92> is what the forums are for
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L906[13:17:32] <gamax92> Mimiru: http://hastebin.com/kehuwisice.lua what do you think this does?
L907[13:18:15] <daemon> gamax92, shows why using proper variable names is a good thing for others reading your code? :)
L908[13:19:07] <gamax92> nah, is an excersize for them to figure out what it does
L909[13:19:19] <Kodos> I think she's asleep
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L913[13:30:29] <Mimiru> not asleep just not home, took my girls to the carnival had to come home and get diapers for youngest
L914[13:30:36] <Mimiru> Kodos, did you see in #Michiyo
L915[13:30:47] <Kodos> Yes and the PM
L916[13:30:50] <Kodos> watching bones, brb
L917[13:31:01] <Mimiru> Well, I dropped a new build this morning heh
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L919[13:45:04] <cloakable> Mimiru: *perk*
L920[13:51:55] <Shuudoushi> huh, seems I got it mostly working https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/tree/dev
L921[13:54:00] <Shuudoushi> now I just need to mess with the filesystem lib, the shell lib, and init.lua...
L922[13:54:34] <Shuudoushi> I have the feeling that I'll be blowing up my raid soon >.>
L923[13:57:59] <gamax92> Shuudoushi: oooh, making an OS?
L924[13:58:07] <Shuudoushi> yeah
L925[13:58:17] <Shuudoushi> trying to get something more Unix like
L926[13:58:23] <daemon> Shuudoushi, wiki your experience or blog or log in some way :)
L927[13:58:28] <gamax92> many people have made OS's, none of them are finished or very functional though
L928[13:58:58] <gamax92> Izaya: no your extreme minimal OS doesn't count
L929[13:59:06] <Shuudoushi> lol, all I really have right now is multi-user support and something to make sure you can't go back past the home dir
L930[13:59:14] <daemon> Shuudoushi, we have quite a few users in here ... why not redmine your experiance (or at least github)
L931[13:59:24] <daemon> and take responses from us lot
L932[13:59:27] <daemon> might help you move it forward
L933[13:59:36] <Shuudoushi> I am on github o.O
L934[13:59:52] <Shuudoushi> https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS
L935[14:00:08] <Shuudoushi> that link is for the "release" branch
L936[14:00:28] <gamax92> daemon: btw if you were wondering what uz does, it's a utf8 string to code point converter
L937[14:00:31] <daemon> Shuudoushi, why not have a friendly chat with Mimiru to see if s/he would be willing to push it in topic, try get some community behind it
L938[14:00:58] <Shuudoushi> already talked to her about it
L939[14:01:04] <daemon> gamax92, yeah its ok I battled with utf8 quite a bit on perl I have more than enough knowledge of it :)
L940[14:01:15] <gamax92> #lua function uz(a) local b={a:byte(1,-1)}if #b==1 then return b[1] end local c=b[1]%(8*(2^(4-#b)))*(2^(6*#b-6))for i=2,#b do c=c+(b[i]%64)*2^(6*(#b-i))end return c end
L941[14:01:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L942[14:01:17] <Shuudoushi> if I can get it to a better place, it'll get included in opensecurity
L943[14:01:30] <gamax92> #lua uz("ほ")
L944[14:01:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 25556008009858
L945[14:01:35] <gamax92> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
L946[14:01:45] <Shuudoushi> I just want it in a bit of a better place before I go to the forums with it
L947[14:01:55] <gamax92> #lua "ほ"
L948[14:01:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > xE3x81xBB
L949[14:01:59] <gamax92> >_> thats right
L950[14:02:06] <daemon> Shuudoushi, gotcha
L951[14:02:20] <Shuudoushi> need to talk to SuPeRMiNoR2 and grab his AES stuff so I can encrypt the non-loggedin home folders
L952[14:02:25] <gamax92> #lua uz("\xE3\x81\xBB")
L953[14:02:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 25556008009858
L954[14:02:28] <gamax92> T_T
L955[14:02:33] <daemon> 8)
L956[14:02:42] <gamax92> Well it works everywhere that isn't |0xDEADBEEF|
L957[14:03:01] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Shuudoushi: consider me grabbed
L958[14:03:04] <Shuudoushi> daemon: yeah, I mostly just don't want to clog the forums with something that isn't at least 80% ready lol
L959[14:03:18] <Shuudoushi> you got that AES lib fully working?
L960[14:03:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Well yeah, it worka
L961[14:03:57] <Shuudoushi> sweet
L962[14:04:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> The interface to use it is a bit sloppy
L963[14:04:13] <Shuudoushi> but ofc...
L964[14:04:32] <Shuudoushi> I still need to edit useradd and userdel >.>
L965[14:04:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I am going to write a better way to interact with it
L966[14:04:34] <gamax92> AES in pure lua?
L967[14:04:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> gamax92: fuck yes
L968[14:04:45] <gamax92> nice
L969[14:04:52] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I stole part of it from random places
L970[14:04:53] <Shuudoushi> it's slower than piss, but it works XD
L971[14:05:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> And made it work in oc
L972[14:05:21] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Not claiming to have written the aes parts of it though
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L974[14:05:47] <Shuudoushi> afk a min
L975[14:06:12] <Inari> aeslua performan pretty wellin OC
L976[14:06:39] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Yup, that is what it is
L977[14:07:39] <Inari> i think i got 90 kb/s encrypt and 95 kb/s decrypt with it on OC
L978[14:16:26] <Vexatos> Just use the Cipher Block
L979[14:16:27] <Vexatos> <3
L980[14:17:56] <gamax92> lua acceleration cards
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L983[14:21:02] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Don't always have cipher blocks
L984[14:21:15] <SuPeRMiNoR2> So pure lua encryption is nice
L985[14:39:56] <Shuudoushi> can anyone think of a non-directory based flagging system to mark things as read only or read/write?
L986[14:42:08] <Inari> Shuudoushi: 2 bits infront of the file? :p
L987[14:42:17] <Inari> actualyl
L988[14:42:17] <Inari> 1 bit
L989[14:42:51] <Shuudoushi> ...
L990[14:44:25] <Shuudoushi> I'll figure soemthing out using the auth lib that super helped me out with
L991[14:51:44] <SuPeRMiNoR2> that thing is for user login not filesystem permissions
L992[14:51:54] <Shuudoushi> I know
L993[14:52:21] <Shuudoushi> but I figured I can use some of it for when someone logs in as root
L994[14:53:17] <Shuudoushi> like "if user == root then 'make all file read/write'" or some shit
L995[14:54:42] <daemon> Shuudoushi, +rwrwrwx is awesome, share the love
L996[14:54:45] <gamax92> much unix like
L997[14:54:47] <gamax92> except not at all
L998[14:54:53] <Shuudoushi> yeah >.>
L999[14:55:27] <daemon> what would be better is a proxy layer ...
L1000[14:55:45] <gamax92> why not just reserve a filename for storing the permissions in the current directory
L1001[14:55:49] <daemon> so you could setup like a remote 'interaction' with components to some sort of simulator
L1002[14:56:27] <SuPeRMiNoR2> desktop.ini XD
L1003[14:56:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> (dont really do that)
L1004[14:56:40] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1005[14:57:02] <Shuudoushi> clam your tits super, I knew it was just a dumb joke lol
L1006[14:57:38] <Inari> clam and tits for supper?
L1007[14:57:55] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1008[14:58:06] <Shuudoushi> calm*
L1009[14:58:26] <gamax92> you ofc run into the issue of unsynced filesystems (say if you're using bufferChanges)
L1010[14:58:38] <Shuudoushi> yeah...
L1011[14:58:39] <gamax92> new files would get default permissions, just like you would when creating a new file
L1012[14:58:53] <gamax92> and non existent files just get their entries cleared
L1013[14:59:40] <Shuudoushi> hmmm
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L1015[15:11:43] <daemon> looks like the amiga tick
L1016[15:13:23] <Kodos> Oh my godf
L1017[15:13:24] <Kodos> https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/609429653271384065
L1018[15:15:01] <Inari> hahaha
L1019[15:15:04] <Inari> brilliant
L1020[15:16:23] <Shuudoushi> wtf
L1021[15:22:45] <gamax92> Kodos: I don't get it, what is it?
L1022[15:23:00] <Kodos> Youtube is starting a streaming service, Twitch welcomed them
L1023[15:23:32] <gamax92> I though youtube already had streaming
L1024[15:23:39] <Shuudoushi> and insulted them at the same time
L1025[15:23:44] <Kodos> err hang on
L1026[15:23:51] <Shuudoushi> they kinda did
L1027[15:24:12] <Shuudoushi> but the new service is aimed at gaming, and not just general streaming
L1028[15:24:16] <Kodos> http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2015/06/a-youtube-built-for-gamers.html
L1029[15:25:08] <gamax92> oh, reading that would have been helpful
L1030[15:26:34] <Shuudoushi> Kodos: my little program suit (yes I'm still sticking to calling it that till I feel it's a real OS) has come a long way huh lol
L1031[15:26:46] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1032[15:26:52] <gamax92> i dunno lol
L1033[15:26:53] <Kodos> I've been too busy all week to watch Github
L1034[15:27:05] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1035[15:27:14] <Shuudoushi> https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS
L1036[15:27:47] <Kodos> Want a name suggestion?
L1037[15:28:04] <Shuudoushi> it now has a proper multi-user system (with sha256 password hashing), and soe other random stuff XD
L1038[15:28:35] <Shuudoushi> Kodos: if I can get it working the way I want, Mimiru may add it to OpenSecurity as a loot disk
L1039[15:28:42] <Shuudoushi> so I thought the name fit
L1040[15:28:42] <Kodos> Ah
L1041[15:28:44] <Kodos> Well
L1042[15:28:49] <Kodos> I was gonna say ShuuBox
L1043[15:28:56] <Shuudoushi> no -_-
L1044[15:29:11] <Shuudoushi> .!.-_-.!.
L1045[15:29:23] <Kodos> It was a suggestion, calm your tits
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L1047[15:29:38] <Shuudoushi> ^^.!.
L1048[15:29:45] <Shuudoushi> happy?
L1049[15:29:46] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1050[15:30:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ShuopenBox
L1051[15:30:09] <SuPeRMiNoR2> DoucheBox
L1052[15:30:15] <Shuudoushi> I will cut you -_-.!.
L1053[15:30:25] <Kodos> !kick Shuudoushi rule 4
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L1056[15:30:46] <Shuudoushi> what's rule 4?
L1057[15:30:51] <Kodos> Go read the rules and find out
L1058[15:30:56] <SuPeRMiNoR2> if it exists, there is porn of it
L1059[15:30:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> oh wait, that is 34
L1060[15:31:00] <Shuudoushi> oh, that's new to me
L1061[15:31:31] <Shuudoushi> o.O
L1062[15:31:48] <Shuudoushi> oh yeah... you don't hang around me and super very much...
L1063[15:31:55] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i dont think that really counts
L1064[15:32:12] <Shuudoushi> ADMIN ABUSE!!!
L1065[15:32:15] <Shuudoushi> j/k lol
L1066[15:32:29] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i call him douche, he says he will cut|stab|mame|rip out my throat
L1067[15:32:47] <Shuudoushi> pretty much
L1068[15:32:57] <Shuudoushi> if you think that was bad, you should hear us in TS XD
L1069[15:33:24] <Temia> Hmm.
L1070[15:33:29] <Temia> Does this count as rule 12? `w`
L1071[15:33:32] * Temia flee
L1072[15:33:47] <SuPeRMiNoR2> no
L1073[15:33:53] <Kodos> No, I've seen people break rule 12
L1074[15:34:09] <Shuudoushi> "rule 3 is so bullshit!"
L1075[15:34:10] <gamax92> Kodos: like you
L1076[15:34:19] <gamax92> But that was when Kenny was around
L1077[15:34:23] <Shuudoushi> that would be whining about a rule
L1078[15:34:26] <Kodos> gamax92, I still have the convo with Kenny pastebin'd if you'd like to read the full thing
L1079[15:34:34] <gamax92> nah I'll spare my eyes
L1080[15:34:49] <Shuudoushi> time for a smoke
L1081[15:35:14] <SuPeRMiNoR2> $say super is abusing my commands
L1082[15:35:14] <SuperBot> super is abusing my commands
L1083[15:36:47] <SuPeRMiNoR2> o.O http://i.imgur.com/e1yngUW.webm
L1084[15:38:22] <gamax92> #lua uz
L1085[15:38:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7f205003d420
L1086[15:38:36] <gamax92> #lua uz(string.char(227,129,187))
L1087[15:38:36] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 12411
L1088[15:38:39] <gamax92> eyy that works
L1089[15:40:00] <Inari> #lua uzuzuzuz
L1090[15:40:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L1091[15:41:15] <Kodos> #lua return uz
L1092[15:41:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7f205003d420
L1093[15:41:18] <Kodos> #lua return uz()
L1094[15:41:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > lua:1: attempt to index local 'a' (a nil value)
L1095[15:41:32] <Kodos> Hm
L1096[15:41:50] <Kodos> Lua needs a thing that will print out what something is
L1097[15:42:49] <Inari> print out what?
L1098[15:42:52] <gamax92> #lua string.dump(uz)
L1099[15:42:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> Error: initialize: name or service not known
L1100[15:42:59] <gamax92> what
L1101[15:47:03] <gamax92> Kodos: anyway uz is just this: https://github.com/OpenPrograms/gamax92-Programs/blob/master/unicode-more.lua#L3-L11
L1102[15:47:40] <Kodos> Ah
L1103[15:47:41] <Inari> wonder if this works
L1104[15:49:49] <gamax92> the letters are meaning full, b is for bytes and c is for codepoints
L1105[15:50:40] <gamax92> totally
L1106[15:58:00] <Shuudoushi> I need to figure out why "if keyboard.isControlDown() and keyboard.keys.c then computer.shutdown(true)" restarts the computer as soon as ctrl is pressed...
L1107[15:58:51] <gamax92> Shuudoushi: because keyboard.keys.c is just a number, and numbers evaluate to true
L1108[15:59:03] <gamax92> so you have if (ctrl is pressed) and true then reboot end
L1109[15:59:31] <Shuudoushi> oh fuck... yep... I'm stupid...
L1110[16:00:23] <Shuudoushi> well, I could just have it reboot if ctrl is pressed during any of the login screens
L1111[16:00:48] <Shuudoushi> there really isn't any reason to be pressing ctrl other than to shutdown the program anyway
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L1113[16:04:16] <Shuudoushi> I think it's time to modify the UAC stuff, shouldn't bee too much of a pain I think >.>
L1114[16:04:51] <Kodos> Two weeks later...
L1115[16:05:06] <Shuudoushi> more like 6 months later >.>
L1116[16:05:21] <gamax92> more like 1 hour later :>
L1117[16:05:54] <Kodos> http://i.imgur.com/f0DA62p.jpg
L1118[16:05:58] <Shuudoushi> considering the built in useradd is only 13 lines of code, and I have no idea where the user list is saved
L1119[16:07:00] <Kodos> I believe it's stored externally, since addUser is in the machine.lua
L1120[16:07:14] <Shuudoushi> I have a feeling that it's saved in the bios, but idk
L1121[16:07:20] <gamax92> it's not
L1122[16:07:27] <Shuudoushi> true enough kodos
L1123[16:08:47] <gamax92> the users list is in the _users's field from Machine.scala
L1124[16:09:21] <Shuudoushi> for now I'll just leave the built in useradd/del alone, I'll just make a simple script for adding new users to the OSs users list
L1125[16:09:27] <gamax92> gets loaded from NBT
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L1127[16:10:14] <Shuudoushi> super did give me a very nice function to call on in the auth.lua lib after all
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L1131[16:14:27] <Shuudoushi> wb
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L1133[16:20:59] <gamax92> I wish OC could somehow have a higher framerate
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L1138[16:28:25] <Inari> gamax92: same :p
L1139[16:28:29] <Inari> need 60 fps
L1140[16:28:59] <Inari> computers be too weak :<
L1141[16:29:04] <gamax92> it just really makes everything feel too slow
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L1146[16:56:13] <gamax92> bbl
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L1153[17:55:04] <gamax92> ~w table.insert
L1154[17:55:05] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-table.insert
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L1157[18:31:00] <gamax92> Temia: https://i.imgur.com/HglEgu8.png
L1158[18:31:25] <Temia> Nano nano nano nano nano <3
L1159[18:32:18] <Inari> so everones making theri own lnano now or what
L1160[18:32:40] <Inari> also why is it 1.0.0 if it only has basic editing capabilities
L1161[18:32:54] <gamax92> is not lnano
L1162[18:32:55] <gamax92> is nano
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L1164[18:35:57] <gamax92> plus mine will be unicode compatible while nxsupert's wont since he uses string.sub
L1165[18:36:16] <gamax92> and by will be I mean is
L1166[18:37:04] <Inari> and by 1.0.0 you mean 0.0.1?
L1167[18:37:18] <gamax92> no, why would I mean that
L1168[18:37:40] <Inari> cause it doesnt sound like its in a release state?
L1169[18:43:53] <gamax92> oh i forgot to demonstrate tabs but tabs work
L1170[18:44:50] <Inari> like, i dont see line numbers, and other fancy stuff
L1171[18:45:40] <gamax92> Temia: does nano have line numbers?
L1172[18:45:54] <Inari> thats like
L1173[18:45:57] <Inari> a basic requirement
L1174[18:46:01] <gamax92> not essential?
L1175[18:46:02] <gamax92> yes
L1176[18:47:12] <Temia> nano does not appear to have line number configuration in its rc file.
L1177[18:47:29] <gamax92> it does actually, via const
L1178[18:47:49] <CompanionCube> Temia, did you look at my image yet?
L1179[18:47:53] <Temia> Briefly
L1180[18:48:04] <CompanionCube> any questions?
L1181[18:48:30] <Temia> Will you be using Nano keybindings or something more normal in this day and age?
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L1183[18:48:46] <gamax92> nano keybindings
L1184[18:48:54] <gamax92> but I'll probably make it configurable
L1185[18:56:32] <gamax92> I somehow managed to glitch term into producing two blinking cursors
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L1188[19:13:46] <Inari> right, guess i'll have to make lNP++ or lSublime to have a good editor :p
L1189[19:16:36] <gamax92> Inari: remember to get basic unicode functionality
L1190[19:16:55] <gamax92> and basic tab functionality
L1191[19:17:17] <Inari> > basic tab functionality
L1192[19:17:19] <Inari> isnt htat like
L1193[19:17:20] <Inari> impllied
L1194[19:17:22] <Mimiru> uuuuugh Migraines are hell.
L1195[19:21:39] <Mimiru> Ok, time to texture the alarm block, and add a few more methods.
L1196[19:22:12] <Mimiru> I also need to make the TEBase a bit more.... less hard coded to the Alarm.
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L1199[19:24:27] <Mimiru> Or... maybe remove the superclass stuff ¬_¬
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L1212[20:09:55] <Mimiru> Uuuugh who wants to do textures for me? :P
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L1214[20:18:42] <Kodos> Let me finish my coffee
L1215[20:18:49] <Kodos> Just a block, right? No models
L1216[20:19:16] <Mimiru> yeah I'm just doing blocks
L1217[20:19:33] <Mimiru> full blocks at that..
L1218[20:19:38] <Kodos> Will the alarm block flash at all like the industrial alarm, or just the sound
L1219[20:19:56] * Mimiru cringes at the thought of adding lighting to this
L1220[20:20:02] <Mimiru> umm, right now? just sound
L1221[20:20:06] <Kodos> Who said anything about lighting
L1222[20:20:19] <Kodos> You can full bright a texture without making it 'glow'
L1223[20:21:08] <gamax92> Mimiru: echo -e "P6\n16 16\n255" > texture.ppm; dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/stdout bs=768 count=1 >> texture.ppm2; cat texture.ppm2 >> texture.ppm; rm texture.ppm2; convert texture.ppm texture.png; rm texture.ppm
L1224[20:21:44] <Kodos> uwot
L1225[20:22:02] <Mimiru> lmfao
L1226[20:22:03] <Mimiru> nice.
L1227[20:22:38] <Mimiru> random textures ftw.
L1228[20:22:43] <gamax92> for some reason, trying to append dd's output to the file just cause it to overwrite
L1229[20:25:04] <Mimiru> Kodos, still not sure what you mean about it flashing.. I thought NC2's howler actually emitted light?
L1230[20:25:33] <gamax92> Here we go! echo -e "P6\n16 16\n255" > texture.ppm; dd if=/dev/urandom of=texture.ppm bs=1 count=768 seek=13; convert texture.ppm texture.png; rm texture.ppm
L1231[20:26:05] <Kodos> The howler doesn't, the Industrial Alarm flashes orange and does indeed emit light. I'm just talking about going from a normal orange/whatever color, to a fullbright one, giving the illusion of being illuminated without actual light being produced because fuck the lighting engine
L1232[20:26:27] <Mimiru> ahh just switching textures... idk
L1233[20:26:48] <Kodos> Obviously having it actually emitting light would make sense, but again, fuck the lighting engine with a rusty spoon
L1234[20:27:01] <Mimiru> Indeed.
L1235[20:27:03] <gamax92> ow
L1236[20:27:14] <Mimiru> I hate OL to this day because of MC's Lighting system
L1237[20:27:53] <Kodos> If I'm being completely honest, I've only ever used OL when I need a borderless, colorable block, otherwise I use the other one
L1238[20:28:15] <Mimiru> "the other one" lol...
L1239[20:28:35] <Kodos> I think with some proper effort, you could use a server rack, 4 servers, and 256 OLs to make an image display
L1240[20:28:52] <Kodos> #lua return math.sqrt(256)
L1241[20:28:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 16
L1242[20:28:57] <Kodos> 16x16, not bad
L1243[20:29:09] <Mimiru> Well, you have other components in the server too..
L1244[20:29:13] <Mimiru> so not quiet 256
L1245[20:29:24] <Kodos> Eh, true
L1246[20:30:18] <Kodos> Wife seems to be enthralled in her anime, so I guess I'm firing up MC
L1247[20:30:54] <Mimiru> Lochie pointed out a oversight in my code so I was unable to unhardcode the updateSOund method \o/
L1248[20:31:28] <Kodos> Did you ever talk to marcin about the NFC stuff?
L1249[20:31:58] <Mimiru> No not yet.. I'm going to look into doing it myself if I can't figure it out I'll poke him
L1250[20:32:09] <Kodos> It's open source, if you need inspiration
L1251[20:32:33] <Mimiru> Heh, EnderIO was the inspiration for a decent bit of sound stuff, computronics too
L1252[20:33:13] <Mimiru> * @author SleepyTrousers, Vexatos, lifted from Computronics, will rewrite soon(tm)
L1253[20:33:13] <Mimiru> */
L1254[20:33:13] <Mimiru> public class MachineSound
L1255[20:33:19] <Mimiru> lol
L1256[20:34:15] <Mimiru> of course... this is one of those things that theres only a few ways to do it..
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L1259[20:59:48] <Kodos> Figures most of my wishlist is on sale =\
L1260[20:59:55] <Kodos> Steam needs a way to sell inventory
L1261[21:00:11] <Kodos> Even 75% return rate, in Steam Credit only, would work for me
L1262[21:01:49] <Temia> I buckled and bought a couple of things myself.
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L1264[21:02:22] <Temia> It's kind of hypocritical of me but... fortune summoners was $5 ;_;
L1265[21:02:23] <Kodos> My issue is I don't have cash, but I have 3 games that have been rotting in my inventory for ages
L1266[21:04:48] <Izaya> just got a text from Optus
L1267[21:05:46] <Izaya> I've used 51% of my data
L1268[21:06:07] <Izaya> it's 4 days till reset
L1269[21:10:01] <PotatoTrumpet> http://i.imgur.com/GWdh0yI.jpg
L1270[21:15:40] <Izaya> is this a thing now?
L1271[21:17:29] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-06-12_21-16-58.png The cards have a texture now... I'll fix them up a bit later..
L1272[21:21:06] <PotatoTrumpet> WHAT
L1273[21:21:08] <PotatoTrumpet> A CARD
L1274[21:21:18] <PotatoTrumpet> A MAGNETIC STRIP CARD
L1275[21:21:21] <PotatoTrumpet> WHAT
L1276[21:21:22] <Mimiru> Yes.
L1277[21:21:30] <PotatoTrumpet> How much data can it store
L1278[21:21:40] <Mimiru> 0.0 bits atm.
L1279[21:21:54] <PotatoTrumpet> oh
L1280[21:22:03] <PotatoTrumpet> I feel like it should be a small ammount
L1281[21:22:14] <Mimiru> 1.2 terabits.
L1282[21:22:14] <Izaya> how much will it store?
L1283[21:22:24] <Mimiru> (IDK yet)
L1284[21:22:31] <PotatoTrumpet> 1 kb
L1285[21:22:32] <Mimiru> theres RFID too.
L1286[21:22:34] <PotatoTrumpet> :O
L1287[21:23:13] <Mimiru> the Alarm block works too.
L1288[21:23:14] <Izaya> 64 chars for mag cards, 36 for RFIDs?
L1289[21:24:13] <Mimiru> Actual mag cards: * Track one is 210 bits per inch (bpi), and holds 79 six-bit plus parity bit read-only characters.
L1290[21:24:13] <Mimiru> * Track two is 75 bpi, and holds 40 four-bit plus parity bit characters.
L1291[21:24:35] <Mimiru> though 64 does sound more reasonable.
L1292[21:25:21] <PotatoTrumpet> I could finally make a bank program with these
L1293[21:25:28] <Mimiru> Yep
L1294[21:26:16] <Izaya> I could use somethong better than a phrase put into chat
L1295[21:26:24] <PotatoTrumpet> Yah
L1296[21:26:24] <Izaya> something*
L1297[21:27:05] <PotatoTrumpet> I feel like RFID stuff should be crafted in a speical prining machine
L1298[21:27:15] <PotatoTrumpet> that is a peripheral
L1299[21:27:24] <PotatoTrumpet> and you control it from a computer
L1300[21:28:35] <Mimiru> that's sorta the plan..
L1301[21:29:36] <PotatoTrumpet> Make the machine have a cool animation
L1302[21:30:20] <Mimiru> no
L1303[21:32:18] <PotatoTrumpet> and black jack and hookers
L1304[21:37:50] <clever> does computer.addUser have any impact on touch detection on the monitor?
L1305[21:38:01] <clever> for right clicking the screen and getting xy coords
L1306[21:41:47] <Kodos> Easy enough to test in offline mode
L1307[21:43:04] <clever> i read somewhere that in single player, it entirely ignores that config
L1308[21:43:22] <clever> oh, you mean run MC offline, so i can fake usernames, that may work
L1309[21:44:30] <clever> only way i know of to run in offline mode is with multiMC, and i dont have the pack setup in there yet, and the server would have to be restarted to allow it, hmmm, maybe a new tiny server&pack
L1310[21:46:14] <Mimiru> I need to figure out the float to block ratio of sound volumes.
L1311[21:47:02] <Mimiru> seems 1.0 is 5 blocks, 10.0 is 150..
L1312[21:47:36] <gamax92> lolwot
L1313[21:48:00] <Mimiru> Dunno how old this is :P
L1314[21:48:39] <Mimiru> but 10 does seem to have pretty damn good range..
L1315[21:51:05] <Mimiru> my sound is playing from -73 I can still hear it at 40.
L1316[21:51:55] <Mimiru> yeah... 10.0 is right around 150 blocks.
L1317[21:52:38] <Mimiru> I could still barely hear it at 80
L1318[21:52:48] <Kodos> See if 1.0 is 15 blocks
L1319[21:52:50] <gamax92> Mimiru: what function is this?
L1320[21:53:37] <Mimiru> gamax92, https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/opensecurity/tileentity/TileEntityMachineBase.java#L78
L1321[21:54:04] <Mimiru> fucking eclipse fucking with my formatting again
L1322[21:54:06] <Mimiru> thanks eclipse.
L1323[21:54:32] <gamax92> I normally use eclipse's default formatter but tell it to format lines to a maximum of 9999 characters
L1324[21:54:33] <gamax92> i.e never
L1325[21:55:58] <Mimiru> Kodos, 1.0 seems to be roughly 15
L1326[21:56:14] <Kodos> Thought as much
L1327[21:58:45] <Mimiru> Hmm how do I want to map that.... I'd like to take volume in "blocks" EG if you want 64 blocks, you just setVolume(64) and it sets it to 4.5 or whatever...
L1328[21:58:52] <Mimiru> I should not be programming with a migraine
L1329[21:58:55] <Mimiru> I can't do simple shit
L1330[21:59:01] <PotatoTrumpet> Go to sleep Mimiru
L1331[21:59:06] <PotatoTrumpet> you can't do simple shit
L1332[21:59:18] <Mimiru> I can't goto sleep
L1333[21:59:29] <Mimiru> Someone has to watch the 2 year old :P
L1334[21:59:29] <PotatoTrumpet> Medication.
L1335[21:59:34] <Kodos> Seems like it would be simple math conversion
L1336[21:59:39] <PotatoTrumpet> Make the kid go to sleep
L1337[21:59:54] <Kodos> PotatoTrumpet, you've never had, nor been around, 2 year olds, have you
L1338[22:00:03] <PotatoTrumpet> I was a 2 year old once
L1339[22:00:05] <Mimiru> I've taken twice the Excedrin extra strength I should for a day in one shot, and my migraine meds
L1340[22:00:09] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet is still a 2 year old
L1341[22:00:12] <PotatoTrumpet> ^
L1342[22:00:37] <Kodos> Right. I'm going to bed.
L1343[22:00:47] <Mimiru> lol, night Kodos
L1344[22:01:04] <Kodos> Gnight. Will see about a texture in the morning, even if it's just something basic to make it not purple and black
L1345[22:01:55] <gamax92> change the purple to yellow
L1346[22:04:21] <Mimiru> lol so I cheated newVolume / 15 = 4
L1347[22:04:30] <Mimiru> when newVolume = 64
L1348[22:05:44] <Kodos> Why not (newVolume / 16) - 1
L1349[22:07:37] <Mimiru> %calc (64/16)-1
L1350[22:07:38] <MichiBot> Mimiru: 3
L1351[22:07:43] <Mimiru> because 3?
L1352[22:07:49] <Mimiru> %calc (150/16)-1
L1353[22:07:50] <MichiBot> Mimiru: 8.38
L1354[22:07:54] <Mimiru> should be closer to 10 :P
L1355[22:08:02] <Mimiru> %calc 150/15
L1356[22:08:03] <MichiBot> Mimiru: 10
L1357[22:08:11] <Mimiru> %calc 64/15
L1358[22:08:12] <MichiBot> Mimiru: 4.27
L1359[22:25:55] <Kodos> That awkward moment when you forget you took off your glasses, go to push them up, and poke yourself in the eye
L1360[22:26:10] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1361[22:26:53] <Shuudoushi> does anyone know of a bug report program that can file an issue on github from OC?
L1362[22:27:10] <Kodos> Is there even an api for doing that?
L1363[22:27:12] <Kodos> On github's side
L1364[22:27:18] <Shuudoushi> idk
L1365[22:27:28] <Shuudoushi> let's look rq
L1366[22:28:24] <Shuudoushi> seems it https://developer.github.com/webhooks/
L1367[22:28:31] <Mimiru> I'm going with no.
L1368[22:28:34] <Mimiru> :P
L1369[22:28:55] <Mimiru> You can poll that for new events, but you can't push events to it.
L1370[22:29:02] <Mimiru> you can't use webhooks to open a issue afaik
L1371[22:29:28] <Mimiru> The issue is to file a issue on github, you have to have an account on github, which means you have to signin to said account.
L1372[22:29:59] <Shuudoushi> hmmm, I see
L1373[22:30:24] <Mimiru> there, 150=10.5, which means you can still HEAR it at 150... sorta :P
L1374[22:30:37] <Shuudoushi> o.O
L1375[22:30:48] <Shuudoushi> alarm range I take it?
L1376[22:30:51] <SuPeRMiNoR2> O.o
L1377[22:30:56] <Mimiru> Yeah
L1378[22:33:33] <Mimiru> New OS build with 100% more bork!
L1379[22:33:51] <Kodos> Attempt #3 at sleep
L1380[22:33:57] <Mimiru> sleep? nah
L1381[22:34:07] <Shuudoushi> wtf is sleep?
L1382[22:35:01] <Izaya> holy haruhi
L1383[22:35:13] <Izaya> $100 from one client
L1384[22:35:19] <Izaya> fsck yes
L1385[22:35:20] <Mimiru> gritz
L1386[22:35:34] <Izaya> I can buy a new graphics card
L1387[22:41:16] <Shuudoushi> Izaya: I would save up your money and get a card with a bit of future proofing if I were you, but do as you like
L1388[22:42:06] <Izaya> I have $170 now
L1389[22:43:36] <Shuudoushi> $170 should get you a pretty good card
L1390[22:43:53] <Shuudoushi> GTX 660s are pretty cheap these days
L1391[22:44:25] <Mimiru> Shuudoushi, remember, AUS:P
L1392[22:44:34] <Shuudoushi> OH YEAH!!!
L1393[22:45:02] <Shuudoushi> wtf is the exchange rate for AUS to USD anyway...
L1394[22:45:13] <Shuudoushi> TO GOOGLE!
L1395[22:46:23] <Shuudoushi> so about 131.44 USD, could still get a good card for that
L1396[22:47:12] <Shuudoushi> s/AUS/AUD
L1397[22:47:12] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> wtf is the exchange rate for AUD to USD anyway...
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L1399[22:49:27] <PotatoTrumpet> I really want big pharma
L1400[22:49:30] <PotatoTrumpet> the game
L1401[22:49:34] <PotatoTrumpet> seems cool
L1402[22:50:24] <Shuudoushi> Izaya: looks like Radeon R7 260x's and 6GTX 750/ti's are right in your price range (at least here in the US)
L1403[22:51:21] <Izaya> ha ha ha
L1404[22:51:26] <PotatoTrumpet> ja ja ja
L1405[22:51:26] <Izaya> Radeon
L1406[22:51:29] <Izaya> funny
L1407[22:51:32] <PotatoTrumpet> Lol
L1408[22:51:36] <PotatoTrumpet> Bwahahahahaha
L1409[22:51:39] <Shuudoushi> true enough lol
L1410[22:51:40] <PotatoTrumpet> BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
L1411[22:51:49] * PotatoTrumpet goes back to playing brows steam
L1412[22:51:55] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1413[22:51:58] <Izaya> I think I'll save up for a 760
L1414[22:52:14] <dangranos> hi
L1415[22:52:43] <Izaya> I'll be able to get them cheaper in the future, so I can SLI 760s
L1416[22:52:50] <Izaya> one day
L1417[22:52:59] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1418[22:53:05] <Shuudoushi> sounds like a plan :P
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L1421[23:09:51] <Mimiru> Oh right... I know why it quits playing if I place a block by it...
L1422[23:09:53] <Mimiru> hmmmm
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