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L10[02:05:37] <SuPeRMiNoR2> PotatoTrumpet:
potato
 
L11[02:07:51] <Inari> oc repo doesnt work
for me :D
 
L12[02:08:28] <Inari> cant find
stragatetech2 stuff <.<
 
L13[02:08:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> try looking for
stargatetech2 instead XD
 
L14[02:16:46] <Inari> seems i had to mark
src/api/java as a sources root too
 
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L18[02:27:03] <Kilobyte> Inari: yeah, you
have to do that
 
L19[02:27:17] <Inari> the instructions dont
mention it :<
 
L20[02:27:19] <Kilobyte> as it does contain
source
 
L21[02:27:35] <Kilobyte> it SHOULD
automatically do that, but in case it doesn't thats your
job
 
L22[02:28:33] <Inari> it should but doesnt
xD
 
L23[02:28:54] <Inari> anyway, gotta mess
around with trying to add stuff later
 
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L25[02:30:55] <Inari> will have ot thikn
about how to best implement a trading card anyway xD and maybe post
on t he issue
 
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L31[02:59:25] <Vexatos> \o
 
L32[02:59:36] <XDjackieXD> hi vex
 
L33[02:59:46] <Vexatos> Finally back
home
 
L34[03:00:06] <XDjackieXD> ^^
 
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L36[03:00:32] <XDjackieXD> and im in school
:P
 
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L43[03:26:53] <rashdanml> o/
 
L44[03:29:03] <Kilobyte> \o
 
L45[03:33:38] <Skye|School> o/
 
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L47[03:41:21] <Izaya> so if I get like,
$100 worth of DO credit, I can run one of the low-end ones for
like, 20 months before needing to add more moneys
 
L48[03:51:15] <XDjackieXD> yes ^^
 
L49[03:51:55] <XDjackieXD> I use it for a
20$/month instance for a modded MC server with friends (that's
like 5months for fee :P )
 
L50[03:52:06] <XDjackieXD> free*
 
L51[04:08:14] <Lizzy> meep
 
L53[04:11:48] <dangranos> error 0?
 
L54[04:15:42] <XDjackieXD> Izaya dafuq did
you do to adb? :D
 
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L60[04:27:43] <Inari> Vexatos: my
peripheral isnt recognized :< and waila just goes <ERROR>
an di dunno why :D
 
L62[04:28:44] <Vexatos> public TileEntity
createNewTileEntity(World world, int i) {
 
L63[04:28:44] <Vexatos> return null;
 
L64[04:28:44] <Vexatos> }
 
L65[04:28:47] <Vexatos> yea sure
 
L66[04:28:48] <Vexatos> k
 
L67[04:28:57] <Inari> ohhhh
 
L68[04:28:59] <Vexatos> public Class<?
extends Environment> getTileEntityClass(int meta) {
 
L69[04:28:59] <Vexatos> return null;
 
L70[04:28:59] <Vexatos> }
 
L71[04:28:59] <Vexatos> ok
 
L72[04:29:01] <Vexatos> yeah sure
 
L73[04:29:01] <Inari> well that would
explain xD
 
L74[04:29:27] <Inari> weird, i thought i
had copied those parts from radar... but guess i let the IDE add
it
 
L75[04:29:35] <Vexatos> Also, canUpdate
should not return that config option
 
L76[04:29:39] <Vexatos> either it ticks or
it doesn't
 
L77[04:30:28] <Inari> Vexatos: well i
copied that :P
 
L78[04:31:09] <Inari> whats the confi
goption fro then?
 
L79[04:31:35] <Vexatos> that stuff is
whether certain blocks should emit/react to redstone signals
 
L80[04:31:41] <Vexatos> Inari, bear in mind
that I might still reject the PR
 
L81[04:31:52] <Vexatos> As I am not sure
whether it fits into Computronics
 
L82[04:31:58] <Inari> :p dont care, its a
nice exercise eithr way
 
L83[04:32:01] <Vexatos> depending on what
you have in mind
 
L84[04:32:38] <Inari> proabbly a painter
block to make pictures :P then the camera cna read those~
 
L85[04:32:59] <Vexatos> Well have fun
writing the camera code for that
 
L86[04:33:28] <Vexatos> remember the camera
itself is rather imprecise IIRC
 
L87[04:33:48] <Inari> it doesnt really
matter if its imprecise
 
L88[04:35:12] <Inari> it will get the
picture's data, not scan every pixel or something
 
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L90[04:37:44] <Vexatos> aah
 
L91[04:38:24] <Vexatos> well as long as you
don't change any existing camera code as noone (not even asie)
really knows why it works
 
L92[04:38:28] <Inari> though i've been
wondering about its ability to get the data when the picutre is
facing sideways
 
L93[04:38:31] <Vexatos> and for how long it
will stay that way
 
L94[04:38:36] <Inari> uhm
 
L95[04:38:41] <Inari> what do you mean, not
know how it works
 
L96[04:38:57] <Vexatos> Inari, it has to
face the camera for you to get the data
 
L97[04:39:00] <Vexatos> otherwise it
doesn't make sense
 
L98[04:39:27] <Inari> *why it works
 
L99[04:39:30] <Inari> why wouldnt it
work
 
L100[04:39:32] <Vexatos> Inari, basically,
the camera has been broken ever since it's been made.... Then
it became a running gag that asie has yet to fix the camera...
eventually he fixed it
 
L101[04:39:53] <Inari> broken how?
 
L102[04:40:01] <Vexatos> Not returning the
right distance
 
L103[04:40:04] <Vexatos> now it
works
 
L104[04:40:09] <Vexatos> and it's
been working for about a year
 
L105[04:40:15] <Inari> heh :p
 
L106[04:40:22] <Vexatos> 
<Vexatos> Inari,
it has to face the camera for you to get the data 
L107[04:40:26] <Vexatos> Just in case you
missed it
 
L108[04:40:27] <Inari> well of course im
changing camera code, what else :3
 
L109[04:40:30] <Inari> i saw that,
yeah
 
L111[04:41:27] <Vexatos> don' touch
it apart from adding checks if the hit block is a painting
 
L112[04:42:04] <Inari> its a pretty
straightforward class, im not sure what the issue
 
L113[04:42:27] <Vexatos> the issue is that
it breaks no matter what you try to do with it
 
L114[04:42:31] <Vexatos> and noone knows
why
 
L115[04:42:33] <Vexatos> it's
cursed
 
L116[04:42:35] <Inari> ...
 
L117[04:42:39] <Vexatos> :D
 
L118[04:42:47] <Inari> i doubt that
:P
 
L119[04:42:48] <Vexatos> Inari, by the
way.....
 
L120[04:42:52] <Vexatos> the camera,
welll
 
L121[04:43:05] <Vexatos> it's not
really supposed to be able to get data remotely, you know
 
L122[04:43:08] <Vexatos> it's not
really a camera
 
L123[04:43:21] <Vexatos> it represents the
thing used in cameras to get the distance to the focused
point
 
L124[04:43:26] <Inari> then you should
rename it to laser distance measurement
 
L125[04:43:39] <Vexatos> Laser Distance
Measurement Device
 
L126[04:43:42] <Vexatos> or LDMD
 
L127[04:43:43] <Vexatos> >_>
 
L128[04:43:45] <Vexatos> <_<
 
L129[04:43:53] <Vexatos> Yeah, it's
not a camera but who cares
 
L130[04:44:07] <Vexatos> Soooo it
doesn't really make sense that it'd be able to get data
from a picture
 
L131[04:44:16] <Inari> Laser rangefinder
is the term apparently
 
L132[04:44:17] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L133[04:44:28] *
Inari goes to submit a renaming PR 
L134[04:44:34] <Vexatos> no
 
L135[04:44:56] <Inari> psh :p
 
L136[04:45:12] <Inari> i still like
asie's "NOT IN THIS MOD" *closes*
 
L137[04:45:13] <Vexatos> spatiometer
<-<
 
L138[04:45:32] <Vexatos> Inari,
that's the thing
 
L139[04:45:48] <Vexatos> I don't know
if/how it fits into the mod
 
L140[04:45:55] <Inari> how are those guns
coming along anyway
 
L141[04:46:01] <Inari> Kilobyte: and that
grog stuff
 
L142[04:46:07] <Vexatos> Mostly the issue
is that it would allow the camera to do things it virtually
isn't capable of doing
 
L143[04:46:09] <Vexatos> or shouldn't
be
 
L144[04:46:27] <Inari> so, i'll make
a new peripheral called Actual Camera?
 
L145[04:46:39] <Vexatos> Then it'd
have to do things like taking literal pictures
 
L146[04:46:48] <Inari> possible
 
L147[04:46:51] <Inari> there was a mod
doing that
 
L148[04:46:52] <Inari> i think
 
L149[04:47:06] <Inari> i still lalso claim
all servers shoudl boot up ac lient instnace
 
L150[04:47:10] <Inari> to bea ble to
render stuff on demand
 
L151[04:47:37] <Vexatos> Cameracraft
 
L152[04:47:41] <Vexatos> has been dead for
a long time now
 
L153[04:48:03] <Inari> time to revive it
:D
 
L154[04:48:11] <Inari> though its mostly
useless
 
L155[04:48:15] <Inari> since people just
take screenshots
 
L156[04:48:32] <Vexatos> ingame pictures
though
 
L157[04:50:35] <Inari> i need more games
to play ;-;
 
L158[04:51:03] <Vexatos> Inari, Crazy
Machines 2
 
L159[04:51:12] <Vexatos> Also, LEGO
Indiana Jones 2
 
L160[04:51:20] <Vexatos> Just do it
 
L161[04:51:24] <Inari> cube world should
update already... and stardew valley should release
 
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L166[05:28:17] <Vexatos> wat
 
L167[05:28:20] <Vexatos> what the
wat
 
L168[05:28:37] <Inari> Vexatos: ?
 
L169[05:28:41] <Vexatos> What the watting
what
 
L170[05:28:55] <Vexatos> I just got a
notification for a free upgrade to windows 10 q_q
 
L171[05:29:00] <Inari> yeah, got that
too
 
L172[05:29:00] <Vexatos> On my 5-year old
latptop
 
L173[05:29:02] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L174[05:29:02] <Vexatos> laptop
 
L175[05:29:07] <Vexatos> wat
 
L176[05:29:08] <Vexatos> No
 
L177[05:29:16] <Vexatos> I want win10, but
as a second OS on my main computer
 
L178[05:29:21] <Vexatos> not on this win7
one D:
 
L179[05:29:21] <Inari> well
 
L180[05:29:25] <Vexatos> win7 is awesome
D:
 
L181[05:29:27] <Inari> i got it on my main
computer too
 
L182[05:29:38] <XDjackieXD> win 10 is a
lot better than 8
 
L183[05:29:38] <Vexatos> My main computer
has linux mint though
 
L184[05:29:40] <Vexatos> So I
won't
 
L185[05:29:47] <Inari> lol
 
L186[05:29:48] <Vexatos> XDjackieXD, there
is a reason I don't dare touch win8
 
L187[05:29:50] <dangranos> win8 is
shit
 
L188[05:30:02] <Vexatos> I need to re-read
the win10 T&Cs
 
L189[05:30:02] <dangranos> win8.1 is shit
with golden paint
 
L190[05:30:10] <Vexatos> because the
technical preview's ones were horrible
 
L191[05:30:17] <dangranos> huh?
 
L192[05:30:28] <Vexatos> like "We are
allowed to get all your data" including but not limited to
things like the contents of emails
 
L193[05:30:31] <dangranos>
"you'll give your first newborn"?
 
L194[05:30:35] <Vexatos> and the programs
you start and how long you run them
 
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L196[05:30:46] <Vexatos> literally
anything
 
L197[05:31:10] *
XDjackieXD hides behind bash :P 
L198[05:31:26] <Vexatos> let's read
some reviews
 
L199[05:31:28] <Vexatos> on win7 vs
win10
 
L200[05:31:33] <Inari> jul 8
 
L201[05:31:35] <Inari> "fix
cameras"
 
L202[05:31:38] <Inari> jul 19 "fix
cameras"
 
L203[05:32:05] <XDjackieXD> win10 is a
more mature version of 8 but if you select recommended setup during
the installation you lost the battle for privacy ^^^
 
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L205[05:32:30] <Inari> who selects
recommended
 
L206[05:32:55] <Vexatos> but win10 is sooo
ugly still
 
L207[05:33:00] <XDjackieXD> nah
 
L208[05:33:08] <Vexatos> it seems to be
much more performant than win8 though
 
L209[05:33:10] <Vexatos> win7*
 
L210[05:33:11] <XDjackieXD> I like the
design more than 7
 
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L212[05:33:42] <Vexatos> I wonder what the
additional RAM usage is
 
L213[05:33:49] <Vexatos> you're quite
limited with only 4 gigs
 
L214[05:34:01] <Inari> did they ever fix
that annoying thing where new window atuomatically take focus?
:P
 
L215[05:34:11] <XDjackieXD> idk
 
L216[05:34:24] <XDjackieXD> I have win
installed but I never touched it since installing it :D
 
L217[05:35:25] <Inari> gimme winlux
 
L218[05:35:38] <XDjackieXD> winlux?
wat?
 
L219[05:36:05] <Inari> a OS that would
both be windows and linux
 
L220[05:36:06] <Inari> :D
 
L221[05:37:03] <XDjackieXD> you can
install linux and wine?
 
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L223[05:37:20] <Inari> but thats still
linux
 
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L225[05:37:29] <XDjackieXD> with a win
compatibility layer
 
L226[05:37:32] <Inari> and linux is too
time consuming :p
 
L227[05:37:46] <XDjackieXD> also I
don't want parts of win in my linux o.O it would make it
slow... :P
 
L228[05:38:20] <dangranos> uh
 
L229[05:38:21] <dangranos> but
 
L230[05:38:32] <dangranos> wine isnt a
fcking "part of win in linux"
 
L231[05:38:52] <dangranos> it's a
program that allows running win stuff
 
L232[05:39:15] <XDjackieXD> wine is just a
compatibility layer (it provides a linux implementation of win libs
and translates dx9 calls to opengl)
 
L233[05:39:15] <dangranos> it's not
inside a kerner iirc
 
L234[05:39:23] <Inari> lets make a new
standard that supercedes both linux and windpws
 
L235[05:39:32] <dangranos> XDjackieXD,
kinda?
 
L236[05:39:51] <XDjackieXD> Inari you know
the xkcd comic about standards?
 
L237[05:40:03] <Inari> yeah im xkcd
baiting
 
L238[05:40:34] <XDjackieXD> there are 13
competing standards. we need one that rules them all. lets make a
better one! - now there are 14 competing standards.
 
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L241[05:44:04] <Kodos> Played Lego Batman
3 with the wife all fucking day and it was fun as hell
 
L242[05:46:47] <Inari> im neither into
lego, nor into batman, so i dont think i'd get much from
it
 
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L244[05:47:42] <Kodos> I want to build a
hospital ship, but I'm not sure whether to do it in Minecraft,
Space Engineers, or StarMade
 
L245[05:48:04] <Inari> do it in maya
 
L246[05:48:07] <XDjackieXD> MC +
galacticraft
 
L247[05:48:11] <XDjackieXD> or
Blender
 
L248[05:48:18] <Kodos> XDjackieXD, MC+GC
is my normal MC anyway
 
L249[05:48:21] <Kodos> Along with 130
other mods
 
L250[05:48:30] <Inari> i still want ksp
rockets in MC :<
 
L251[05:48:40] <XDjackieXD> ^^
 
L252[05:48:55] <Kodos> Maybe I'll get
my Legos out and use those
 
L254[05:49:15] <MichiBot> Inari: 
KSP:
Flags and footprints on Venus in RSS | length 
17m 6s |
Likes: 
7455 Dislikes: 
75 Views: 
407582 | by maccollo
 
L255[05:49:26] <XDjackieXD> I have about 2
m^3 of lego at home ^^
 
L256[05:49:54] <Kodos> I have more legos
than I'm prepared to admit
 
L257[05:50:05] <Inari> just get a 3d
printer
 
L258[05:50:09] <Inari> and you'll
have lego for ages
 
L259[05:50:22] <Kodos> Inari, better idea,
I'll build it in Space Engineers, and then have it 3D
printed
 
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L262[05:53:26] <CoolSquid> o/
 
L263[05:53:31] <Kodos> Howdy
 
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L267[05:56:38] <Kodos> How would I go
about making a resource pack for OC Servers and server racks?
 
L268[05:56:53] <Inari> hm
 
L269[05:57:00] <Inari> can we have udp
sockets? :D
 
L270[05:57:30] <Inari> lets code a MC
server in lua and run a MC server in a MC server
 
L271[05:57:59] <Kodos> I just want proper
FTP access via OC
 
L272[05:58:12] <Kodos> ie Let me run a
local FTP server for my lua programs, and FTP into it from an OC
computer
 
L273[05:58:13] <Inari> cant code
that?
 
L274[05:58:39] <Kodos> I can do lots of
stuff in OC I couldn't before, but anything to do with
networking or the internet card still eludes m e
 
L275[05:58:52] <Inari> xD
 
L276[05:58:53] <Inari> in what way
 
L277[05:59:34] <Kodos> I tried mucking
around with the pastebin program, to get it to use my pastebin key,
and ended up having to completely uninstall OC and reinstall it
just to load my world back up
 
L278[05:59:46] <Kodos> When I break
things, I break them -hard-
 
L279[06:00:15] <Inari> okayyy
 
L280[06:00:17] <Inari> what :p
 
L282[06:04:53] <Izaya> Kodos: someone had
a FTP client
 
L283[06:05:07] <Inari> does MC use
UDP?
 
L284[06:05:23] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
L285[06:05:30] <Kodos> Also, my bundled
AND gate works =D
 
L287[06:25:30] <Lizzy> Inari, i think it
does
 
L288[06:25:36] <Inari> ah
 
L289[06:25:37] <Inari> hrm
 
L290[06:25:42] <Inari> i think OC
cantß
 
L291[06:26:17] <Lizzy> in what sense? (i
cba to read scrollback)
 
L292[06:26:21] <XDjackieXD> nope OC can
only use TCP
 
L293[06:26:41] <Inari> aw
 
L294[06:26:45] <Inari> so cant make a MC
server with OC :<
 
L295[06:26:49] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L296[06:27:06] ***
LearningFairy is now known as Daiyousei 
L297[06:27:17] <Lizzy> well for a start
unless you modified OC you can't even listen on TCP/UDP
ports
 
L298[06:27:24] <Inari> meh
 
L299[06:27:27] <Inari> how boring :p
 
L300[06:27:29] *
Lizzy likes Mimiru's new name and wonders what it is in
relation to 
L301[06:28:30] <Kodos> .hack most
likely
 
L302[06:28:55] <Kodos> Or Monster Girl, so
says my wife
 
L303[06:29:26] <Kodos> Coffee run, back in
30 or so
 
L304[06:29:48] <Lizzy> a google result
brings up .hack
 
L305[06:30:05] <Inari> whats mimiru's
new name
 
L306[06:37:59] ***
ConcernedHobbit is now known as ConcernedAway 
L307[06:39:14] *
Izaya slides down the wall 
L308[06:41:58] <Inari> Izaya: how are your
imoutos doing? :p
 
L309[06:42:18]
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L310[06:42:40] <Izaya> well the season
ended
 
L311[06:42:41] <Izaya> wait
 
L312[06:42:49] <Izaya> I am using that
word right, right?
 
L314[06:43:24] <Izaya> apparently
not
 
L315[06:43:35] *
Izaya falls asleep on his keyboard 
L316[06:44:00] <Inari> what word
 
L317[06:44:00] <Inari> <.<
 
L318[06:44:15] <Lizzy> Izaya, i think you
were using that right
 
L319[06:44:37] *
Lizzy pokes Mimiru and asks for her Vultr ref code 
L320[06:46:37] <Inari> what svultr
 
L321[06:46:43] <Lizzy> also Kilobyte: i
looked into the different hosts for different znc users and DO only
provide a PTR record for the first configurable IPv6 address, which
is annoying. I want to look at Vultr but i wanna get Mimiru's
ref code first
 
L322[06:47:18] <Lizzy> Vultr is a server
(vps) hosting company, like Digital Ocean but from what I've
seen so far, offers slightly more
 
L323[06:47:31] <Inari> does it work
without contact data? :3
 
L324[06:47:40] <Lizzy> i have no idea, i
hope so
 
L325[06:47:48] <Inari> DO wants data
 
L326[06:47:48] <Inari> :<
 
L327[06:48:30] <Lizzy> you know what the
funny thing is? that's only for new accounts, the data they
want i haven't had to give on my current account
 
L328[06:48:43] <XDjackieXD> if you know
what you do and want cheap and good hosting I can recommend
waveride (it's a subcompany of EDIS.at but without
support)
 
L329[06:48:57] <Inari> XDjackieXD: do they
want data?
 
L330[06:48:58] ⇦
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L331[06:49:01] <XDjackieXD> idk
 
L332[06:49:24] <Lizzy> (i was gonna set up
a new account using Mimiru's ref code so i could help her out
with stuff but they wanted this data)
 
L333[06:49:27] <Inari> i also want a
domain, but domain wants data
 
L334[06:49:27] <Inari> <.<
 
L335[06:49:57] <XDjackieXD> Why do you
want a domain without personal data?
 
L336[06:50:01] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L337[06:50:10]
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L338[06:50:14] <Inari> to use it to host
stuff, as irc hostname, etc?
 
L339[06:50:15] <XDjackieXD>
totallynoillegalthings :P
 
L340[06:50:44] <Inari> email too
 
L341[06:51:00] <Inari> XDjackieXD: i value
privacy :p
 
L342[06:51:23] <XDjackieXD> my domain is
registered with my real name and address but I can set in the
properties if the whois should show my real name/address or their
support address
 
L343[06:51:47] <Inari> yeah, but most
companies suck about protecting your data
 
L344[06:51:54] <XDjackieXD> for a .de
domain you even need to send them a scan of your ID o.O
 
L345[06:52:00] <Inari> store it badly, had
it out easily if you phone up and fake being the owner or law
enforcement or the like
 
L346[06:52:09] <Inari> XDjackieXD: thats
like vritualyl ipossible
 
L347[06:52:22] <Inari> you arent allowed
to make a copy of your ID
 
L348[06:52:41] <Lizzy> that's also
something else that annoyed me, for my kimsufi dedi
(thor.theender.net) i didn't have to provide a picture of me
standing with my "government issued id"
 
L349[06:52:44] <XDjackieXD> you need one
for many official things in germany and austria
 
L350[06:52:48] <Inari> yeah but
 
L351[06:52:53] <Inari> you aren tallowed
to scan it and thus create a copy
 
L352[06:53:38] <XDjackieXD> there is no
law against it in austria as long as you dont say that the copy is
the original one
 
L353[06:53:48] <Inari> well theres in
german y :3
 
L354[06:53:53] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L355[06:54:34] <XDjackieXD> but how would
they check your identity then? (let's don't talk about
gimp/photoshop ^^)
 
L356[06:55:04] <Inari> by using the proper
verificaiton systme of the id card :p
 
L357[06:55:36] <XDjackieXD> we don't
have something like this ^^ (and I know that the german one is a
bit... ... let's call it insecure XD)
 
L358[06:55:59] <Inari> well showing a
picture is totally secure ;D
 
L359[06:56:02] <XDjackieXD> (watch the
talk at 31C3 or 30C3 about it...)
 
L361[06:56:12] <XDjackieXD> it totally is
:P
 
L363[06:56:52] <XDjackieXD> lol
 
L364[06:57:58] <Inari> hm gotta write a
new bmp reading library x.x
 
L365[06:58:23] <Inari> woudl be a lot
easier if OC had a good edit xD
 
L366[06:58:41] *
Inari pokes nxsupert 
L367[06:59:20] <XDjackieXD> Inari just
edit it using a proper ide/texteditor outside of OC?
 
L368[06:59:27] <Inari> nah
 
L369[07:00:21] <Kodos> Inari, port LuaIDE
to OC
 
L370[07:00:53] <XDjackieXD> Kodos the
problem is that I always try to press ESC :wq Enter :P
 
L371[07:01:12] <Kodos> It's 7 am and
I've been awake entirely way too long, English please
 
L372[07:02:11] <XDjackieXD> You need
caffeine, energy drinks or sleep ^^
 
L373[07:03:24] <nxsupert> yes?
 
L374[07:03:39] <nxsupert> Inari?
 
L375[07:03:46] <Inari> nxsupert:
lnano
 
L376[07:03:46] <Inari> now
 
L377[07:04:00] <Vexatos> Some editor with
syntax highlighting
 
L378[07:04:05] <nxsupert> Umm.
 
L379[07:04:08] <Vexatos> and Selene syntax
highlighting >_>
 
L380[07:04:10] <Inari> and copy/paste/cut,
duplicate, movel ines, etc
 
L381[07:04:20] <Inari> nxsupert: werent
yuo writin gthat
 
L382[07:04:29] <Vexatos> Inari, fix your
free space
 
L383[07:04:30] <nxsupert> Yes
 
L384[07:04:42] <Inari> Vexatos:
nyan?
 
L385[07:04:52] <nxsupert> But I am rather
pre-occupied at the moment.
 
L386[07:05:06] <Inari> well finsih your
precoccupation, then finish lnano
 
L387[07:05:12] <Inari> i expec tthe beta
tomorrow
 
L388[07:05:32] ⇦
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TACOS) 
L389[07:05:39] <XDjackieXD> :P just port
vim
 
L390[07:05:44] <nxsupert> I have an exam
tommarow! and the next day , and the day after that.
 
L391[07:05:50] <Inari> skip exams
 
L392[07:05:53] <Kodos> Blocks that are
completely blastproof, go
 
L394[07:06:28] <Inari> lnano is more
imiportant
 
L395[07:06:41] <nxsupert> It isn't
working yet.
 
L396[07:06:53] <nxsupert> But it is
getting there
 
L397[07:07:35] <XDjackieXD> I really have
to look into the OC networking stuff and find out whats the best
solution for mesh networking :)
 
L398[07:09:04]
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L399[07:10:49] <nxsupert> Inari: If you
want to help. You can try and figure out what is causing the
rendering errors when moving about the text file.
 
L401[07:18:44] *
Lizzy tips her hat to Mimiru 
L402[07:23:49] <Lizzy> now if paypal would
work that'd be great
 
L403[07:24:31] ***
Magik6k|off is now known as Magik6k 
L404[07:25:44] <Kodos> Ffs
 
L406[07:25:58] <Kodos> Trying to find a
blastproof block that contains further block damage as well
 
L407[07:27:06] <Kodos> And
apparently
 
L408[07:27:15] <Kodos> GregTech 5
"Containment Field Machine Casing" isn't one of
them
 
L409[07:28:16] ***
manmaed|AFK is now known as manmaed 
L410[07:28:35] <Kodos> Hot damn, I got
one
 
L411[07:28:39] <Kodos> Reinforced
Obsidian
 
L412[07:28:47] <Kodos> Now if it
didn't look like shit
 
L413[07:30:21] <Lizzy> XDjackieXD / Inari,
cant recall who asked it but Vultr do not ask for any personal
details other than those needed for payment options
 
L414[07:30:23] <Mimiru> Also Lizzy, you
asked about then ew name, .hack//sign
 
L415[07:30:34] <Mimiru> the new*
 
L416[07:30:40] <Lizzy> Mimiru, yeah, i
googled shortly after asking
 
L417[07:31:02] <Mimiru> heh
 
L418[07:31:06] <Kodos> Who wants to make a
quick and easy simple mod for me
 
L419[07:33:14] <Lizzy> if i knew how to i
would
 
L420[07:33:45] <Inari> Lizzy: no personal
data needed for btc
 
L421[07:33:52] <Lizzy> btc?
 
L422[07:33:57] <Inari> bitcoin
 
L423[07:33:57] <Lizzy> oh
 
L424[07:33:58] <Kodos> Actually,
isn't there a custom block and item mod somewhere
 
L425[07:34:02] <Kodos> Pretty sure
modpacks use it
 
L426[07:34:22] <Kodos> Quadrum =D
 
L427[07:34:24] <Kodos> That's
it
 
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error: Connection reset by peer) 
L431[07:48:22] <Inari> vram graphics
layers would be pretty nice to have for cursors in text editors
xD
 
L432[07:49:22] <Lizzy> hmm, to ubuntu
14.04/15.04 or Debian 8 on this Vultr VPS
 
L433[07:49:40] <nxsupert> Does it really
matter?
 
L434[07:49:48] <Izaya> Debian 8
 
L435[07:50:09] <nxsupert> To turn Debain
into Ubuntu you just need to add there apt repo in reality.
 
L436[07:50:31] <Izaya> but then your OS is
comercially motivated
 
L437[07:50:51] <Inari> which is good
:3
 
L438[07:51:04] <Izaya> you see
Windows?
 
L439[07:51:07] <nxsupert> Not really
Izaya. It is still free and open source.
 
L440[07:51:11] <Izaya> Windows is
comercially motivated
 
L441[07:51:14] <Izaya> is Windows
good?
 
L442[07:51:15] <Izaya> no.
 
L443[07:51:20] <Izaya> </rant>
 
L444[07:51:22] <Inari> pretty good
 
L445[07:51:33] <nxsupert> Yes. But Windows
isn't free or open source.
 
L446[07:51:52] <Izaya> Hyperbole.
 
L447[07:51:59] <Daiyousei> the windows
kernel does not support multitasking yet
 
L448[07:52:05] <Daiyousei> when notepad
freezes
 
L449[07:52:08] <Daiyousei> your whole os
freezes!
 
L450[07:52:10] <Daiyousei> gg wp no
re
 
L451[07:52:14] <nxsupert> Ubuntu is free
and open source.
 
L452[07:54:37] <Inari> ~oc byte
 
L454[07:58:09] <Lizzy> hmm, now the name
for this new VPS
 
L455[07:58:24] <Lizzy> !namegen
 
L456[07:58:26] <Izaya> call it
 
L457[07:58:28] <Izaya> uh
 
L458[07:58:30] *
Lizzy slaps gameserv 
L459[07:58:31] *
EnderBot2 laughs 
L460[07:58:51] <Izaya> hold on
 
L461[07:58:53] <Izaya> lemme find the
page
 
L462[07:58:55] <Lizzy> lol
 
L463[07:59:31] <Izaya> ryoko
 
L464[07:59:35] <Izaya> call it ryoko
 
L465[07:59:39] <Lizzy> who's
that?
 
L466[07:59:54] <Mimiru> Tenchi! :P
 
L468[08:00:23] <Mimiru> Sorry any time I
hear Ryoko, I think of Tenchi Muyo
 
L469[08:01:17] <Lizzy> hmm
 
L470[08:01:26] *
Izaya has been watching Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu 
L471[08:01:32] <Izaya> I read the
manga
 
L472[08:01:36] <Izaya> but the anime is
great
 
L473[08:02:54] <Lizzy> I was trying to
think of a name that would tie in with one of my other
servers' names
 
L474[08:03:27] *
Izaya nods 
L475[08:03:29] <Izaya> welp
 
L476[08:03:31] <Lizzy> hmm
 
L477[08:03:32] <Izaya> time to pretend to
sleep
 
L478[08:05:48] <Lizzy> trying to think of
one that the character is slightly unstable since this server will
be used as a test bed for the most newest versions of stuff (i.e.
Apache)
 
L479[08:16:48] <Inari> nxsupert: it
re-renders the whole thing for 3 s everytim ei scroll ;-;
 
L480[08:17:27] <nxsupert> Really? Must be
an old version on the repo.
 
L481[08:18:06] <Inari> 3 days old
 
L482[08:18:48] <nxsupert> Oh.
 
L483[08:19:01] <nxsupert> When moving up
and down it will do. Haven't implemented that yet.
 
L484[08:19:09] <Inari> o.o
 
L485[08:19:18] <nxsupert> Moving left and
right should be faster.
 
L486[08:19:24] <dangranos> anyone uses
tox?
 
L487[08:19:38] <XDjackieXD> yes
 
L488[08:19:44] <dangranos> :O
 
L489[08:20:08] <nxsupert> I feel like
looking into bitcoins.
 
L490[08:20:16] <XDjackieXD> we had that
discussion about tox 2 days ago. haven't we?
 
L491[08:20:27] <XDjackieXD> bitcoins are
not worth mining for anymore...
 
L492[08:20:30] <dangranos> wasnt that
yesterday?
 
L493[08:20:39] <dangranos> or i missed
it
 
L494[08:20:50] <dangranos> :(
 
L495[08:20:53] <XDjackieXD> could have
been yesterday ^^
 
L496[08:21:12] <nxsupert> 1 BTC is still
worth £149.37
 
L497[08:21:28] <XDjackieXD> I have 3$ in
bitcoins ^^
 
L498[08:22:11] <XDjackieXD> (I had 2
bitcoins when they were like 2$ each and I sent them a friend and
he lost his phone without a backup of the wallet key ^^)
 
L499[08:22:57] <nxsupert> Over here.
Someone threw away a harddrive that contained £1,000,000 worth of
bit coins.
 
L500[08:23:04] <Inari> nxsupert: if the
bugs you mena are the ones i mean, could be a unicode issue
 
L501[08:23:39] <XDjackieXD> I think
it's better to mine wallets with btc on them than for btc
themselfes ^^
 
L502[08:24:05] <XDjackieXD> (I know
someone who got 1000 btc when they were 2$ each and he is rich
now... :P)
 
L503[08:24:16] ***
Daiyousei is now known as ShoweringFairy 
L504[08:24:38] <nxsupert> I havent
integrated unicode properly yet. When scrolling left and right you
can get graphical problems which I have yet to figure out why they
are occuring.
 
L505[08:25:08] <Inari> nxsupert: and im
saying it could be a unicode issue :D
 
L506[08:25:19] <Inari> since it seems to
mostly happen to the CR chars
 
L507[08:26:04] <nxsupert> I don't
think it is. I think it is a problem with my maths when clearing
some of the screen to draw a new column of characters.
 
L508[08:26:10] ⇦
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seconds) 
L509[08:27:19] <Inari> hm maybe they just
appear around the CR cause thats the end of line
 
L511[08:29:20] ***
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L513[08:33:33] <Kodos> Ugh
 
L514[08:33:34] <Kodos> Fucking FMP
 
L515[08:33:45] <Inari> full metal
panic?
 
L516[08:33:50] <Kodos> Multipart
 
L517[08:34:08] <Kodos> Keeps crashing when
I switch to the plastic block cover in my hand, because the
renderer loses its shit at not knowing how to preview it
 
L518[08:35:50] <Inari> ~oc gpu
 
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L521[08:43:23] <Inari> oh you can draw
more than the screen is wide in OC too?
 
L522[08:44:46] <Kodos> TIme to find out if
I'm a moron
 
L523[08:47:19] ***
ShoweringFairy is now known as Daiyousei 
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L526[08:52:14] <PotatoTrumpet_> :D
 
L527[08:55:39] <Kodos> Looks like I need
to update PR, let's see whatthat does
 
L528[08:55:52] *
Kodos grumbles something about 9 downloads 
L529[08:58:07] <PotatoTrumpet_> :P
 
L530[08:58:18] <PotatoTrumpet_> so, german
person finally woke up
 
L531[08:58:27] <Kodos> Oh thank fuck
 
L532[08:58:28] <PotatoTrumpet_> b/c
jetlagg
 
L533[08:58:29] <Kodos> It's on
CF
 
L534[09:02:32] ⇦
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L536[09:05:55] <Inari> #lua blah =
"abc" blah:sub(0,-2)
 
L537[09:05:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
 
L538[09:06:04] <Inari> #lua blah =
"abc" return blah:sub(0,-2)
 
L539[09:06:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
ab
 
L540[09:07:39] <Inari> nxsupert: its at
least partially the unicode :P
 
L541[09:11:36] <Lizzy> okay, now that
i've got some more work stuff done, lets go back to thinking
of a name for my Vultr Server
 
L542[09:12:24] <Lizzy> gonna go with Janus
i htink
 
L543[09:13:02] <Kodos> Jenova
 
L544[09:13:06] <PotatoTrumpet_>
YoMomma
 
L545[09:13:45] <Lizzy> PotatoTrumpet_,
no
 
L546[09:14:01] *
Lizzy shoves an underscore into PotatoTrumpet_'s
skull 
L547[09:22:14] <dangranos> "Please
note: There is a tiny possibility that updating this, or any mod,
may break your world. Make a backup before updating, just in
case."
 
L548[09:22:15] <dangranos> XD
 
L549[09:22:24] <dangranos> did that ever
happened?
 
L550[09:23:38] <Lizzy> dangranos, ever
seen Reika's DragonAPI?
 
L551[09:23:49] <dangranos> uh
 
L552[09:23:50] <Inari> "Here be
dragons"
 
L553[09:23:53] <dangranos> XD
 
L554[09:24:01] <dangranos> that one is
like exception
 
L555[09:24:26] <dangranos> if you just
touch or look at it not how it was intended it'll break
 
L556[09:24:40] <Inari> its a finnicky
quatnum device
 
L557[09:31:18] <Lizzy> yay, i've
already locked myself out of Janus
 
L558[09:31:21] <Lizzy> .-.
 
L559[09:31:38] <dangranos> is that one of
your servers?
 
L560[09:32:31] <Lizzy> yup, newest
one
 
L561[09:32:46] <dangranos> what did you
done?
 
L562[09:34:00] <Lizzy> i disabled ssh key
auth which was all fine, but forgot to put my ssh key in the
non-root user i set up and the initial pass didn't work
 
L563[09:34:08] <Lizzy> luckilly
trhat's all i had done
 
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L565[09:39:05] <matt155> hello
 
L566[09:39:07] <Lizzy> hi
 
L567[09:39:27] <matt155> can anyone help
me with something?
 
L568[09:40:03] <matt155> i am running
opencomputers on linux and the text on screens are all buggy
 
L569[09:41:00] <Kodos> Can you provide a
screenshot?
 
L570[09:42:55] <matt155> ok
 
L571[09:43:04] <matt155> but where should
i post it?
 
L572[09:43:14] <Kodos> imgur should be
fine
 
L573[09:44:30] <Lizzy> :O Vultr can do
rDNS on IPv6 addresses :D
 
L574[09:45:23] *
dangranos pokes Lizzy 
L575[09:45:28] <dangranos> um
 
L576[09:45:29] *
Lizzy wiggles 
L577[09:45:35] <dangranos> what was your
git?
 
L579[09:46:19] <Lizzy> why do you
ask?
 
L581[09:47:01] <matt155> thats the
screenshot
 
L582[09:47:09] <Temia> Ah
 
L583[09:47:26] <Lizzy> matt155, the screen
you're playing on isn't big enough for the screen
tier
 
L584[09:47:28] <Temia> That's a
problem for most people with low resolutions.
 
L585[09:47:42] <dangranos> :D
 
L586[09:47:55] <dangranos> peasants with
small screens
 
L587[09:47:59] *
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L588[09:48:03] <Inari> well tier 3 fullres
looks kinda crappy to me, even though i do have a decent screen
;D
 
L589[09:48:05] <Lizzy> dangranos, be
nice!
 
L590[09:48:06] *
Temia whaps dangranos 
L591[09:48:06] <Inari> not htat crappy
though
 
L592[09:48:24] <Lizzy> also dangranos if
you want to host any projects on my gitlab feel free
 
L593[09:48:39] <Temia> I kind of wanna see
where that graphics API discussion goes.
 
L594[09:48:46] <Temia> Mostly
because
 
L595[09:48:49] <Inari> graphics API?
 
L596[09:49:01] <matt155> my res for both
screens are 1024x768
 
L597[09:49:03] *
dangranos wants to get someone from #oc on hyperboria 
L599[09:49:13] <matt155> running on 1G
card
 
L600[09:49:15] <Inari> hyperboria?
 
L601[09:49:20] <Temia> There's been
some discussion on how a graphics API would be set up alongside
text.
 
L602[09:49:21] <matt155> *1gb
 
L603[09:49:25] <dangranos> that's
network based on cjdns
 
L604[09:49:30] <Lizzy> ah
 
L605[09:49:31] <Inari> Temia: the
vram?
 
L606[09:49:38] <Temia> And all the ideas
just make me want to make visual novels +_+
 
L607[09:49:54] <Temia> More than
that.
 
L608[09:50:06] <Temia> The conversation
kind of expanded from vram.
 
L609[09:50:10] <Lizzy> dangranos, if
people need accounts on there you'll have to ask me first, i
turned the signup back off after all the DarkNet Ops made their
accounts
 
L610[09:50:18] <Inari> Temia: i know
 
L611[09:50:21] <Inari> theres the idea of
layers
 
L612[09:50:24] <Inari> but vram is still
the base idea
 
L613[09:50:25] <Inari> :3
 
L614[09:50:30] *
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L615[09:50:45] <Temia> Either way
 
L616[09:50:49] <Temia> OC visual
novels
 
L617[09:50:51] <Temia> 'w'
 
L618[09:50:54] <dangranos> oooh
 
L619[09:51:02] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
I'm working on it. Gentoo portage doesn't have ebuilds
available so I have to write mine and make sure they're
working OK, that's what I'm doing now.
 
L620[09:51:05] *
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L621[09:51:17] <Inari> minecraft uses
tcp
 
L622[09:51:18] <Inari> ;-,
 
L623[09:51:21] <Inari> wai
 
L624[09:51:29] <dangranos> hitecnologys,
you use gentoo?
 
L625[09:51:53] <hitecnologys> Inari:
because SCTP is relatively new and not supported everywhere.
 
L626[09:51:53] <Lizzy> Inari, oh,
no-wonder the networking for it is so shit
 
L627[09:52:02] *
dangranos is parallely PMing hitecnologys on tox 
L628[09:52:02] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
aye, I do.
 
L629[09:52:03] <Inari> hitecnologys:
wat
 
L630[09:52:15] <Inari> hitecnologys:
theres UDP :p
 
L631[09:52:25] <hitecnologys> Inari: TCP
guarantees delivery or timeout, UDP requires extra work.
 
L632[09:52:36] <Inari> oh right, mojang
doesnt like extra work :<
 
L633[09:52:46] <hitecnologys> Inari: I
doubt Notch is more qualified than kernel developers to implement
TCP stack. Even if he is, it's... Java.
 
L634[09:52:46] <Temia> UDP's use case
is like
 
L635[09:52:48] <Lizzy> s/extra//
 
L636[09:52:49] <Kibibyte> <Inari> oh
right, mojang doesnt like work :<
 
L637[09:52:56] <Inari> hitecnologys: you
dont need a full tcp stack :P
 
L638[09:52:59] <Temia> Totally unrelated
to MC >.>
 
L639[09:53:05] <Inari> just udp engineered
to diff delivery modes etc
 
L640[09:53:16] <hitecnologys> Inari: you
need half of it.
 
L641[09:53:17] <Inari> Temia: well,
no
 
L642[09:53:24] <Inari> transmitting
position data is very much a UDP usecase
 
L643[09:53:35] <XDjackieXD> hitecnologys
does the OC implementation of TCP (the internal. not the internet
card) check for errors in the data (CRC)?
 
L644[09:53:37] <hitecnologys> Inari: UDP
doesn't have flow control, dilivery-or-timeout, etc.
 
L645[09:53:44] <Inari> hitecnologys: you
just have to implement ack and use packet ids
 
L646[09:53:45] <Temia> Eh
 
L647[09:53:57] <hitecnologys> XDjackieXD:
err, TCP verified integrity internally.
 
L648[09:54:03] <Temia> I'd rather
have accurate data on that front.
 
L649[09:54:10] <hitecnologys> XDjackieXD:
ah, you mean the "network" disk?
 
L650[09:54:14] <Inari> Temia: that doesnt
make much sense x.x
 
L651[09:54:16] <hitecnologys> XDjackieXD:
it doesn't.
 
L652[09:54:27] <Inari> tcp for position
data = more lag
 
L653[09:54:59] <Temia> UDP does not
guarantee delivery or ordering. Adding those is just shoehorning
the design in.
 
L654[09:55:23] <Inari> you dont need
delivery or ordering for position data
 
L655[09:55:25] <XDjackieXD> hitecnologys
:/ that's going to be funny. I'm planning on intergating
random bit-flips for my lasers (more likely to happen with cheaper
tiers and more distance beteen the two transmitters ^^)
 
L656[09:55:29] <Inari> the point of
position data is to be ther efast
 
L657[09:55:38] <Inari> you dont care where
the person was 0.1s in the past :p
 
L658[09:55:54] <Temia> You do if you want
accuracy over speed.
 
L659[09:55:58] <Temia> Also
 
L660[09:56:03] <Temia> For people like
me
 
L661[09:56:08] <Inari> but you dont need
accuracy if you get like 30 packets a second..
 
L662[09:56:12] <Inari> or 20 even
 
L663[09:56:17] <hitecnologys> XDjackieXD:
I've been working a lot on better MCNET design. My deadline
estimation for RFC is 15-20 of June but it will improve over time
once I publish it for discussion.
 
L664[09:56:26] <Temia> Splitting those
into two separate streams would turn MC into a horrible desync
fest.
 
L665[09:56:46] <Inari> splitting what into
two separate streams? desync fest how?
 
L666[09:57:06] <hitecnologys> XDjackieXD:
it includes CRC verification, flow control, better protocol
description, advanced routing and more.
 
L667[09:57:16] <hitecnologys> XDjackieXD:
though, very little is implemented.
 
L668[09:57:34] <XDjackieXD> good for
anyone who (hopefully) uses my lasers in the future ^^
 
L669[09:57:36] <Temia> Narrowband
connections would be potentially backed up enough that it could
easily receive datastreams from two different time periods.
 
L670[09:57:52] <Inari> well you'd
generally only use 1 udp stream
 
L671[09:58:10] <Temia> And what of TCP
streams for things like chunk data?
 
L672[09:58:39] <hitecnologys> Inari: UDP
doesn't have flow control. Without it, you're likely to
kill slow machines and congest the physical layer channel.
 
L673[09:58:53] <Inari> you use udp with a
custom reliability/ordering layer, gives you the benefits of UDP,
doesnt add slow out like UDP+TCP would and gives you more modes
than using even TCP+UDP
 
L674[09:58:59] <Inari> since you might
e.g. want reliable data but not care about ordering
 
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L676[09:59:27] <hitecnologys> There's
SCTP.
 
L677[09:59:30] <hitecnologys> It does all
that.
 
L678[09:59:31] <Acheloos> Hey o/
 
L679[09:59:36] <Inari> hitecnologys: sure,
but SCTP sucks till its everywhere
 
L680[09:59:37] <Inari> thus UDP
 
L681[09:59:42] <hitecnologys> It's
superior in all the ways. Use SCTP.
 
L682[10:00:02] <hitecnologys> It
won't be widespread until your start using it. The future of
the Internet depends on you!
 
L683[10:00:05] <Temia> UDP is unsuitable
for this. Hitec has already covered what I haven't.
 
L684[10:00:30] <Inari> UDP is
suitable..
 
L685[10:00:37] <hitecnologys> Not without
extra work.
 
L686[10:00:49] <hitecnologys> Which,
obviously, no one wants to do.
 
L687[10:00:52] <Inari> thats like saying a
game engine is unsuitable to make a gme wihtou extra work
 
L688[10:00:54] <hitecnologys> Cause
everybody's lazy. =P
 
L689[10:00:59] <hitecnologys> No.
 
L690[10:01:02] <Inari> yes :P
 
L691[10:01:03] <Temia> I don't think
I could trust a system with no delivery guarantees to implement
flow control.
 
L692[10:01:06] <hitecnologys> Game engine
is designed for games.
 
L693[10:01:14] <Inari> Temia: you make you
ronw delivery guarantee ~.~
 
L694[10:01:14] <hitecnologys> UDP is
designed for designing protocols.
 
L695[10:01:19] <hitecnologys> And, also,
firewalls.
 
L696[10:01:22] <hitecnologys> And
legacy.
 
L697[10:01:33] <Temia> Inari
 
L698[10:01:36] <Inari> anyway, UDP is
superior to TCP for online games
 
L699[10:01:39] <hitecnologys>
Legacy's important no matter how badly I want to screw with
it.
 
L700[10:01:44] <Inari> unless your games
are like roundbased
 
L701[10:01:47] <Temia> What if the
receiving end doesn't get any of your packets?
 
L702[10:01:48] <Inari> then, go wiht
TCP
 
L703[10:01:51] <Temia> Because, say
 
L704[10:02:04] <Temia> You're
half-duplex and clogged with UDP packets?
 
L705[10:02:12] <Inari> Temia: TCP
doesn't automagically warp packets to you
 
L706[10:02:26] <hitecnologys> That's
what flow-control is for.
 
L707[10:02:30] <Inari> if you dont get
packets, you dont get them either way
 
L708[10:02:31] <hitecnologys> flow
control*
 
L709[10:02:33] <Inari> tcp cant change
that
 
L710[10:02:35] *
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L711[10:02:42] <hitecnologys> WRONG
 
L712[10:02:42] <Temia> TCP DOES change
that
 
L713[10:02:50] <hitecnologys> *BEEP*
 
L714[10:02:52] <Inari> how would it change
that?
 
L715[10:02:54] <Temia> By having flow
control as an integral part of the system
 
L716[10:03:17] <Temia> It CAN'T
overwhelm you to that level from a single stream.
 
L717[10:03:22] <Inari> so
 
L718[10:03:25] <Inari> put in
throttling?
 
L719[10:03:29] <Inari> doesnt seem like,
super hard
 
L720[10:03:37] <hitecnologys> Even if you
have 1000 TCP connections they will not collapse the network.
 
L721[10:03:45] <hitecnologys> That's
one of the main design goals of TCP.
 
L722[10:03:56] <hitecnologys> If everybody
used UDP Internet would instantly shut down.
 
L723[10:04:05] <hitecnologys> It's
hard, trust me.
 
L724[10:04:06] <Inari> sure, you use UDP
where UDP is good
 
L725[10:04:08] <Inari> like online
games
 
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L728[10:04:23] <Temia> UDP would make
Minecraft unplayable for me >.>
 
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L730[10:04:35] <hitecnologys> UDP is
suitable when you know what are you doing.
 
L731[10:04:38] <dangranos> UDP is for
lossless transfering of information
 
L732[10:04:43] <Temia> Because I
can't guarantee a synchronous connection.
 
L733[10:04:44] <hitecnologys> TCP is
suitable for all general cases.
 
L734[10:04:52] <Temia> >UDP
 
L735[10:04:55] <Temia> >lossless
 
L736[10:05:08] <Inari> you measure round
trip time and adjust your send rate to that
 
L737[10:05:22] <Inari> if it goes too high
you send less
 
L738[10:05:23] <hitecnologys> Notch
sticked to UDP because at the time writing he didn't know what
game would turn into. UDP required too much extra work to see the
result.
 
L739[10:05:31] <hitecnologys> Say,
protocols changes, what's next?
 
L740[10:05:31] <Temia> Inari, that's
not the... *sigh*
 
L741[10:05:40] <hitecnologys> Go rewrite a
few thousand lines of Bukkit?
 
L742[10:05:49] <hitecnologys> I'm
definitely now doing that.
 
L743[10:05:54] <hitecnologys> not*
 
L744[10:06:06] <Temia> Okay, Inari
 
L745[10:06:11] <hitecnologys> Until
there's a better reason than "it's slow", no
one's going to change that.
 
L746[10:06:23] <hitecnologys> What we
really need is load balancing.
 
L747[10:06:26] <hitecnologys> =P
 
L748[10:06:26] <Inari> hitecnologys: which
is why im still waiting for a competent MC clone ;D
 
L749[10:06:29] <Inari> cause MC isnt going
anywhere
 
L750[10:06:42] <Temia> Come up with an
implementation that sends the amount of data MC does that
WON'T crap out in an already taxed 1mbit line.
 
L751[10:06:47] <Temia> Then we'll
talk.
 
L752[10:07:10] <Inari> also you can give
packets diff priorities and such fun stuff :D
 
L753[10:07:47] <hitecnologys> QoS needs
configuration.
 
L754[10:08:00] <hitecnologys> It also
needs hardware support.
 
L755[10:08:24] <Inari> anyway, bottom
line, udp = less lag, tcp = more lag
 
L756[10:08:33] <hitecnologys> No.
 
L757[10:08:50] <hitecnologys> I know a
thing about networks and I can say it's not that easy.
 
L758[10:09:09] <hitecnologys> You
can't choose UDP because it's "less
lags".
 
L759[10:09:12] <Temia> Wrong on so many
levels, Inari
 
L760[10:09:15] <Inari> its just that way
though..
 
L761[10:09:25] <Inari> if you wait for
unimportnat packets you get lagspikes
 
L762[10:09:26] <hitecnologys> No,
it's not.
 
L763[10:09:28] <Temia> on their own, UDP
has less *overhead* than TCP
 
L764[10:09:29] *
ds84182 throws ENET at everybody 
L765[10:09:33] <Inari> thats like, not
debatable
 
L766[10:09:42] <ds84182> JUST FUCKING SHUT
UP AND USE ENET
 
L767[10:09:44] <ds84182> /s
 
L768[10:09:52] <hitecnologys> ds84182: oh,
somebody knows about that!
 
L769[10:09:59] <hitecnologys> ds84182:
high five! o/
 
L770[10:10:02] <Kodos> I need a
programmable light that can operate independently on its own
 
L771[10:10:12] <dangranos> wut is
enet?
 
L772[10:10:23] <hitecnologys> dangranos: C
library for "reliable" UDP.
 
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L775[10:10:49] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
it adds duplicate checking, ordering, etc.
 
L776[10:10:50] <Inari> hitecnologys: so in
which case would TCP provide less lag in an online game, versus a
reliable UDP implementation tailored to the game's needs
 
L777[10:11:05] <hitecnologys> Inari: the
key word is "tailored".
 
L778[10:11:15] <hitecnologys> Inari: it
not an easy part.
 
L779[10:11:37] <Inari> easy or not doesnt
relate
 
L780[10:11:46] <hitecnologys> Inari: if
you design it very carefully, you get better speeds, reliability,
stuff. But if you screw it up, you'll get worse results.
 
L781[10:11:55] <hitecnologys> It
does.
 
L782[10:11:55] <Temia> Which is why
I'm waiting for your example code
 
L783[10:11:58] <Temia> Right, Inari?
 
L784[10:12:00] <Temia> <3
 
L785[10:12:08] <Inari> Temia: sure, lemme
just go and implement MC for nothing :p
 
L786[10:12:19] <hitecnologys> If the
expenses are bigger than the profit, it's useless for
business.
 
L787[10:12:29] <Inari> hitecnologys: less
lag means less lag, noone claimed it to be easy, if it was easy
people wouldn't get paid to do it
 
L788[10:12:31] <hitecnologys> In academic
sense, it does make sense, but not in case of Minecraft.
 
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L791[10:12:53] <hitecnologys> Go tell that
Mojang. I'm sure they aren't aware of this.
 
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L793[10:13:05] <Inari> im sure M$ has
enough money :D
 
L794[10:13:21] <Inari> but wlel yeah
 
L795[10:13:33] <Inari> they barely get
anything done now, so i'D rather not want them to try to
reimplement networking
 
L796[10:13:35] <hitecnologys> Technically,
MS only owns Mojang. They're still very free to work on their
own projects.
 
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L800[10:14:24] <dangranos> until MS wants
something?
 
L801[10:14:26] <hitecnologys> No matter
how I dislike MS, games done by studios that were owned by MS are
sometimes good.
 
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L803[10:14:38] <Inari> but anyway, tcp is
bad because you get less modes you can send in, UDP+TCP is bad
because TCP negatively affects UDP (and possilby vice-versa) and
you still get less modes, UDP is bad because UDP, so reliable UDP
is really the way to go, unless you want to lazy out of
course
 
L804[10:14:39] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
probably.
 
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L806[10:14:49] <dangranos> heh
 
L807[10:14:59] <hitecnologys> Inari:
that's what SCTP does.
 
L808[10:15:01] <Inari> also tcp can cause
more lag due to those modes
 
L809[10:15:02] *
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DLCs 
L810[10:15:08] <hitecnologys> Inari: why
reinvent the bicycle?
 
L811[10:15:15] <Inari> cause as said e.g.
waiting for position packets isnt important
 
L812[10:15:23] *
Lizzy continues to ignore the discussion and decides to continue
breaking her servers 
L813[10:15:37] <hitecnologys> Alright,
I'm done with that too. Gonna make some more coffee.
 
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L815[10:15:49] <Temia> Coffee sounds
good.
 
L816[10:15:52] <ds84182> I like
drones.
 
L817[10:15:59] <Inari> hitecnologys:
werent you saying its not supported? :P
 
L818[10:16:09] <dangranos> That channel is
so fast that nobody will know that i
 
L819[10:16:21] <ds84182> ~
 
L820[10:16:23] <ds84182> !
 
L821[10:16:30] <Kodos> Can waypoints face
up/down or just sideways
 
L822[10:17:06] <Inari> hitecnologys: its
the same as with java's memory managmenet/GC, having no GC is
faster, but requiers a lot more work and you can potentially wreck
more and/or introduce hard to debug issues
 
L823[10:17:30] <Inari> and the same as
using a more low-levle faster, vs a more high-level slower
language
 
L824[10:17:40] <Inari> if you dont need
the performance, sure, use the slower and easier thing
 
L825[10:17:46] <hitecnologys> Temia:
caffeine addiction doesn't.
 
L826[10:17:47] <Inari> but online games
kindal ive on network performance
 
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L828[10:17:57] <Temia> Bah
 
L829[10:18:11] <Temia> I can quit any time
I want to.
 
L830[10:18:12] <Inari> hitecnologys: just
eat some caffeeine powder :D
 
L831[10:18:14] *
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L832[10:18:25] <hitecnologys> Inari: SCTP
lacks support, yes, but it just means that it's gonna be time
until it finds its place.
 
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L834[10:18:48] <Inari> hitecnologys: well
lack support can mean lots of things in this case
 
L835[10:18:59] <Inari> like "java
doesnt support it, so they couldnt use it, unless they implement it
themselves"
 
L836[10:19:13] <hitecnologys> Inari:
having GC better than not having GC as you can disable GC. It has
no relation to networking at all.
 
L837[10:19:13] <Inari> or just "it
isnt well known and not many people back it"
 
L838[10:19:32] <hitecnologys> Support
means lack of software support, of course.
 
L839[10:19:45] <hitecnologys> And not as
many people know about it as I would like to.
 
L840[10:19:47] <Inari> so you cant
actually use it
 
L841[10:19:59] <hitecnologys> You
can't use raw UDP either.
 
L842[10:20:05] <hitecnologys> See the
difference?
 
L843[10:20:08] <hitecnologys> I don't
too.
 
L844[10:20:18] <hitecnologys> Better go
implement SCTP for Java.
 
L845[10:20:36] <hitecnologys> Or SCTP for
Windows cause Linux kernel already has modules available.
 
L846[10:20:53] <hitecnologys> I bet
Windows does too but I'm not familiar with it.
 
L847[10:20:55] <Inari> hitecnologys: ~.~
of course Gc doesn'T relate to networking it was an example on
how harder to-do things can be more performant, and that migth be
somehting to use if you require that performance for a certain
task, but on how it can be easier to not carea bout that part if
you dont need it
 
L848[10:21:32] <hitecnologys> Inari:
generally, GC is faster than manual memory management because
computers think quicker than humans and don't screw up.
 
L849[10:21:46] <hitecnologys> Inari: also,
CPU time is cheaper than development time.
 
L850[10:22:08] <Inari> depends on your
application @ cpu time vs dev time
 
L851[10:22:36] <hitecnologys>
Doesn't. Human resources are always more expensive.
 
L852[10:22:47] <Inari> GC isn't
faster, though its memory management module can allocate faster as
it just allocates a whole chunk and then operates int hat, not
having to query hte OS all teh time for memory operations
 
L853[10:23:08] <Inari> but you can have a
memory management module like that wihtout having GC
 
L854[10:23:38] <Inari> its a lot of work,
and bug-prone, but you can get better performance
 
L855[10:23:41] <hitecnologys> You still
need to watch all those objects.
 
L856[10:23:54] <Inari> you verify
lifetimes at compile-time
 
L857[10:23:55] <Inari> like rust
does
 
L858[10:23:55] <hitecnologys> That is in
spherical worlds in vacuum you can.
 
L859[10:24:07] <hitecnologys> In real
world people screw up.
 
L860[10:24:11] <hitecnologys> A
*lot*.
 
L861[10:24:27] <Inari> well, not like
people dont screw up now and we manage to deal wiht it too
 
L862[10:24:34] ⇦
Parts: Phosphene (~Phosphene@64.140.115.250) ()) 
L863[10:24:39] <Temia> People are
stunningly incompetent at everything on average :O
 
L864[10:24:43] <hitecnologys> Because we
have garbage collection.
 
L865[10:24:50] <hitecnologys> If we
didn't... god help us all.
 
L866[10:24:51] <Inari> devtime >
cputime if cputime makes your game go to 10fps
 
L867[10:25:06] <Temia> Why, if we assume
simple models, perfectly spherical humanoids with even density,
etc. etc.
 
L868[10:25:17] <dangranos> hmm
 
L869[10:25:22] <Temia> We wouldn't
have even reached the information era!
 
L870[10:25:28] <Temia> So
 
L871[10:25:30] <dangranos> portal 2 remake
in MC using Computronics for playing audio?
 
L872[10:25:38] <Temia> Let's thank
the world for complexities
 
L873[10:25:39] <Temia> <3
 
L874[10:25:50] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
won't work.
 
L875[10:25:56] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
you still need portal gun.
 
L876[10:26:00] <dangranos> ah
 
L877[10:26:01] <dangranos> right
 
L878[10:26:04] <dangranos> that little
thing
 
L879[10:26:09] *
dangranos sighs 
L880[10:26:19] <dangranos> CURSE YOU
iCHUN
 
L881[10:26:20] <Inari> hitecnologys: i
thinky ou credit GC too much :p the only thing it really does is
clean up stuff that has not been specifically free'd... you
can verify the lifetimes at compiletime and free when
necessary
 
L882[10:26:33] *
Kodos is writing a program to have OpenPrinter print data over time
RE my RF production 
L883[10:26:33] <Inari> isnt ichun workin
gon it thouhg?
 
L884[10:26:36] <Inari> making hte
rendering all fancy
 
L885[10:26:37] <Inari> and stuff
 
L886[10:26:42] <Kodos> Inari, for
1.8
 
L887[10:26:44] <Lizzy> dangranos, you
pinged?
 
L888[10:26:47] <Inari> ah
 
L889[10:26:50] <Temia> okay, hold on
 
L890[10:27:00] <dangranos> Lizzy, yes, i
wanted to tell you about cjdns
 
L891[10:27:01] <Temia> I think I know a
perfect way to shut this topic up
 
L892[10:27:08] <Inari> what topic
 
L893[10:27:15] <Inari> we've kinda
switched topics xD
 
L894[10:27:22] <dangranos> topics?
 
L895[10:27:36] <Inari> /topic #oc shut
up!
 
L897[10:27:49] <Temia> close.
 
L898[10:27:51] <hitecnologys> Inari: GCing
is very complicated. It does simply manage data but imagine what
would happen if had to monitor all those things yourself! I've
done C++ coding for more than 3 years and C coding for over 2 and
GC is very, very useful tool to have.
 
L899[10:28:16] <Inari> hitecnologys: thats
why, you do lifetimes
 
L900[10:28:37] <Lizzy> dangranos, tell it
to me in another, less busy channel / network
 
L901[10:28:43] <Temia> Seeing shades of
that going both ways.
 
L902[10:28:56] <Temia> I'm off to
make that coffee.
 
L903[10:28:59] <Inari> you get the
benefits of secure cleaning and now having to free yourself
 
L904[10:29:03] <Inari> plus you dont have
to have GC at runtime
 
L905[10:29:05] <Inari> win-win
 
L906[10:29:18] <Inari> *not having to free
yourself
 
L907[10:30:05] <hitecnologys> It
doesn't allow for meta-programming.
 
L908[10:30:31] <hitecnologys> And
can't evade GCing in run time.
 
L909[10:30:43] <Inari> depends on what you
call GCing xD
 
L910[10:30:46] <hitecnologys> You
can't*
 
L911[10:31:04] <Inari> if the lifetime of
something ends (very specific point) you clean it
 
L912[10:31:15] <hitecnologys> What is
lifetime?
 
L913[10:31:19] <hitecnologys> How do you
determine it?
 
L914[10:32:29] <hitecnologys> Say, user
entered a command that made system allocate memory for instance of
some class also defined in run time. What do you do then?
 
L915[10:32:54] <Inari> well you culd not
defiine classes at runtime :D
 
L916[10:33:11] <Inari> why would you
define a calss at runtime o.ô
 
L917[10:33:11] <hitecnologys> You
can.
 
L918[10:33:24] <hitecnologys> Because you
can?
 
L919[10:33:33] <Inari> xD
 
L920[10:33:40] <hitecnologys> Also, it
make incremental development possible.
 
L921[10:33:44] <hitecnologys> makes*
 
L922[10:33:56] <hitecnologys> So that you
run your program and then add features to it.
 
L923[10:34:10] <hitecnologys> Or even
change its behavior dynamically, without need to restart and
recompile.
 
L924[10:34:31] <Inari> well if you want to
put in some extra worky ou could host it in a VM for that
 
L925[10:34:37] <Inari> "A lifetime is
a static approximation of the span of execution during which the
pointer is valid: it always corresponds to some expression or block
within the program."
 
L926[10:35:05] <hitecnologys> Anyway,
I'm not going to discuss this topic. GC is great when
it's needed, otherwise it's garbage. This has already
been said millions of times.
 
L927[10:35:31] <hitecnologys> You
can't judge necessity of a system without taking everything it
does and doesn't in count.
 
L928[10:35:45] <hitecnologys> So, I'm
out.
 
L929[10:35:57] <Inari> that was kind of my
point earlier :p
 
L930[10:36:48] <Inari> though it goes more
like "A is always superior to B, unless you dont care abotu
the benefits of A, or the benefits of A aren'T importnat
enough to justify the extra costs"
 
L931[10:37:22] <Inari> hitecnologys:
lifetimes are pretty interesting though, i should read up on them
more xD
 
L932[10:38:18] <Inari> 32 views and no
answer yet :< stupid adobe community forums
 
L933[10:38:22] <hitecnologys> You
shouldn't go reading about these things without basic
understanding of algorithms and all the related fundamental
knowledge.
 
L934[10:38:41] <Inari> "understanding
of algorithms"?
 
L935[10:38:53] <hitecnologys> Theory of
algorithms.
 
L936[10:39:11] <hitecnologys> Don't
know exact words for this in English.
 
L937[10:39:17] <Inari> well reading about
them is kind of a keypoint to learning rust xD
 
L938[10:39:18] <hitecnologys> It's
the basics, you can't get far without it.
 
L939[10:40:05] <hitecnologys> Well,
I'm happy you realize that because some folks
don't.
 
L940[10:40:09] ***
Cruor|Away is now known as Cruor 
L941[10:40:14] <Inari> i mean
lifetimes
 
L942[10:40:51] <hitecnologys> ._.
 
L943[10:41:05] *
Temia patpats Hitec. 
L944[10:41:10] <hitecnologys> Lifetimes
aren't important.
 
L945[10:41:17] <Inari> if you code in
rust, they are
 
L946[10:42:05] <hitecnologys> Applied
knowledge is nothing without strong theoretical knowledge.
That's what makes you good programmer: ability to abstract
from things for greater good. Otherwise, you're just one of
those PHP kids.
 
L947[10:42:31] <Inari> well, you still
kinda have to know lifetimes, else you couldnt code at all in rust
xD or rather you'd keep running your head into compilation
errors
 
L948[10:42:50] <Temia> >.>
 
L949[10:42:54] <Temia> Inari...
 
L950[10:43:03] <Inari> what
 
L951[10:43:05] <Temia> wider scope. Please
take notice.
 
L952[10:43:11] <hitecnologys> Temia: well,
that's how I started too.
 
L953[10:43:37] <hitecnologys> Temia:
"dig into C++ until you write correct code".
 
L954[10:43:52] <Inari> well, have fun
trying to code rust wihtout lifetimes
 
L955[10:44:10] *
Temia ... facepalms. 
L956[10:44:33] <Temia> Inari, you're
the only one who's been talking about rust at all.
 
L957[10:44:40] <Inari> exactly, im talking
about rust :P
 
L958[10:44:47] <Inari> cause lifetimes are
kinda part of it
 
L959[10:44:49] <Temia> And nobody else has
been
 
L960[10:45:01] <Temia> Nobody else ever
was.
 
L961[10:45:49] <Temia> Having a
conversation usually doesn't mean willful ignorance of a
greater subject at hand.
 
L962[10:46:20] <Inari> well when i start
talking about rust, and then someone responds to that, the only
logical thing is to assume they respond in a context of rust, im
not saying its not important to understand algorithms, but my point
was that is houdl read up on lifetimes since they are essential to
rust and i havnet fully grasped them yet
 
L963[10:46:43] <Temia> ... sure,
okay.
 
L964[10:46:52] <Inari> either way
 
L965[10:47:07] <Inari> hitecnologys: i
would say that i do have a basic understanding of algorithsm
:P
 
L966[10:47:11] *
Temia wanders off. ~.~ there isn't enough coffee in the world
for today... 
L967[10:47:59] <Inari> Temia: heh, well,
my point was that if you want to code rust you need to understand
lifetimes. sure you still need understanding of algorithms to
really code any meaningful code at all, but thats pretty much a
given
 
L968[10:48:13] <Temia> Beyond
caring.
 
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L972[11:09:13] <Kodos> Is Curse.com being
slow as shit for anyone else
 
L973[11:10:59] ⇦
Quits: marcin212 (~marcin212@aaor37.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Ping
timeout: 195 seconds) 
L974[11:18:38] <Kodos> Getting a weird ExU
Crash that I feel like I've had before, but can't
remember what I did to fix it
 
L975[11:22:22] <Inari> hitecnologys: also,
your answer can be read as one or both of: a) you think you
shouldn't read about lifetimes (since i told you they are
interesting) because you do not have a basic understanding of
algorithms, b) you imply that i dont have a basic understanding of
algorithms and thus shouldnt read about lifetimes :p
 
L976[11:23:19] <hitecnologys> Inari: yes,
I agree that I don't have it.
 
L977[11:24:13] <Inari> you dont? o.ô arent
you like coding a lot already
 
L978[11:24:22] <gamax92> halp
 
L979[11:24:31] *
Kodos throws gamax92 a Life Saver 
L980[11:24:38] <gamax92> thanks :D
 
L981[11:24:49] *
Inari shoots gamax92's life saver 
L982[11:24:50] <hitecnologys> Inari:
I'm a code monkey.
 
L983[11:25:08] <gamax92> :<
 
L984[11:25:12] <hitecnologys> Inari: I
don't deny it, I can't hide my true nature.
 
L985[11:25:15] <Inari> well, but if you
code a lot you kind of have to come to a basic understanding of
them, no?
 
L986[11:25:21] <hitecnologys> No.
 
L987[11:25:29] <Inari> hm, maybe im doing
odd coding then xD
 
L988[11:25:30] <hitecnologys> I don't
understand them enough.
 
L989[11:25:59] <Inari> well basic
understanding doesnt mean you have to be an expert?
 
L990[11:26:36] <hitecnologys> I'm not
satisfied with my understanding.
 
L991[11:26:40] <Inari> ah
 
L992[11:27:04] <Inari> hm, well i mostly
looked into optimization stuff i guess, since at the early years of
my coding experience that was always the biggest point xD
 
L993[11:27:35] ***
Skye|School is now known as Skye|ExamRevision 
L994[11:28:55] <Inari> but, theres always
more to learn of course
 
L995[11:29:28] ***
alekso56_off is now known as alekso56 
L996[11:30:07] <Inari> hm
 
L997[11:30:21] <Inari> anyone written a
debugger for OC yet?
 
L998[11:30:37] <XDjackieXD> i don't
think so...
 
L999[11:30:45] <Inari> i should do
that
 
L1000[11:30:55] <Inari> though it is a
pain i think
 
L1001[11:30:55] <Inari> xD
 
L1002[11:31:26] <XDjackieXD> I think this
will be a pain :P
 
L1003[11:33:31] <gamax92> a
debugger?
 
L1004[11:33:59] <Inari> breakpoints, halt
on error, manual halt, ability to view and modify vars during
halt
 
L1005[11:34:01] <Inari> such stuff
 
L1006[11:34:30] <Inari> possibly even on
a second screen
 
L1007[11:35:00] <Inari> i think the lack
of debug library woudl make it quite apain thouhg..
 
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L1009[11:37:36] <MajGenRelativity>
Hi
 
L1010[11:37:55] ***
Kodos is now known as Kodos|Zzz 
L1011[11:39:38] *
Inari sticks gamax92 and MajGenRelativity into a bag 
L1012[11:39:55] <gamax92> y :c
 
L1013[11:40:14] *
MajGenRelativity escapes the bag 
L1014[11:40:27] *
gamax92 stays in the bag 
L1015[11:40:40] <MajGenRelativity> Why
would you stay in a bag?
 
L1016[11:41:04] *
gamax92 is bored 
L1017[11:41:30] <MajGenRelativity> I will
be updating OC this Wednesday
 
L1018[11:42:01] <MajGenRelativity> I
updated the modpack already, all I need to do is implement it
server side, then give everybody the link
 
L1019[11:42:17] <MajGenRelativity> Link
should be available tomorrow
 
L1020[11:42:28] <Mimiru> So... WIndows 10
July 29th... huh
 
L1021[11:42:37] <MajGenRelativity>
Really?
 
L1023[11:42:43] <gamax92> Yep
 
L1024[11:42:48] <gamax92> But I
don't want it
 
L1025[11:42:55] <Inari> i want it
 
L1026[11:42:56] <Inari> *-*
 
L1027[11:43:10] <Mimiru> I'm
upgrading every windows 7 device I have.
 
L1028[11:43:18] <gamax92> I'm
not
 
L1029[11:43:31] <Mimiru> I'm going
to have to go steal my moms PC to do so.. since she has no
internet.
 
L1030[11:43:49] <vifino> Wat da heck is a
Mimiru? o.o
 
L1031[11:43:57] <Mimiru> Google.
 
L1032[11:44:16] <vifino> Ah. .hack got
ya.
 
L1033[11:44:26] <Mimiru> :P
 
L1034[11:44:31] *
Inari .hacks vifino 
L1035[11:44:35] <dangranos> bye
 
L1036[11:44:36] <dangranos> sleep
 
L1037[11:44:42] <vifino> Night,
dangranos.
 
L1038[11:44:49] <Mimiru> o/
 
L1039[11:45:01] <MajGenRelativity> I want
Windows 10
 
L1040[11:45:17] <MajGenRelativity> My PC
wants all the fancy
 
L1041[11:46:38] <MajGenRelativity>
I'm pleased to announce that the first public version of Force
Lasers will be launching sometime this week on minecraftforum
:D
 
L1042[11:47:09] <MajGenRelativity> All I
need to do is make a GUI image and record a YouTube video
 
L1043[11:47:37] <cloakable> I need to
work on my code a bit later >.>
 
L1044[11:48:02] <cloakable> My PC is
probably going to sit on Win7 forever xD
 
L1045[11:48:13] <MajGenRelativity> I
support your coding cloakable
 
L1046[11:48:44] <MajGenRelativity> Us
modders must stick togethe
 
L1047[11:48:47] <MajGenRelativity>
R
 
L1048[11:48:53] <cloakable> Going to try
getting background services going in opencomputers heh
 
L1049[11:49:04] <MajGenRelativity>
.
 
L1050[11:49:32] <MajGenRelativity> I am
going to get going
 
L1051[11:49:39] <MajGenRelativity> Things
to do, places to be
 
L1052[11:49:47] <cloakable> Have fun
:D
 
L1053[11:49:57] <MajGenRelativity>
:)
 
L1054[11:50:03]
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(~Majgenrel@c-24-63-210-98.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) (Quit:
Dave) 
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L1057[12:26:49] <cloakable> Darn, bdew
isn't planning on adding OC support to either Pressure Pipes
or Advanced Generators. D:
 
L1058[12:29:52] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Screw
him
 
L1059[12:32:34] <cloakable> Well, I
-would- like to be able to monitor the multiblocks from those mods
xD
 
L1060[12:35:27] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Maybe bdew
needs to be monitored
 
L1061[12:35:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> With a
crt
 
L1062[12:35:47] <cloakable> Hah
 
L1063[12:36:21] <cloakable> Might just be
a job for an adapter :D
 
L1064[12:36:36] <SkySom> Or maybe someone
just needs to open a pull request with support :D
 
L1065[12:37:12] <cloakable> That would be
fun to see, both mods are open source :D
 
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L1069[12:53:04] <T_roM_A> cool
 
L1070[12:53:23] <T_roM_A> this is
crazy!
 
L1071[12:53:25] <Lizzy> interesting
greeting
 
L1072[12:53:33] <T_roM_A> hey!
 
L1073[12:53:41] <T_roM_A> i didnt know
opencomputers was this cool
 
L1074[12:53:52] <Lizzy> well, now you do
:P
 
L1075[12:54:00] <T_roM_A> im even on
singleplayer....
 
L1076[12:54:13] <T_roM_A> im so gonna use
this mod all the time
 
L1077[12:54:21] <T_roM_A> yay
internet...
 
L1078[12:54:34] <Lizzy> yup, it's
wonderful
 
L1079[12:54:39] <T_roM_A> what other
kinds of programs are there
 
L1080[12:54:51] <T_roM_A> i tried to get
floppypirates it didnt work -.-?
 
L1081[12:55:08] <Lizzy> there are quite a
few, check out the other loot disks or looking on oppm
 
L1082[12:55:14] <T_roM_A> i did...
 
L1083[12:55:16] <XDjackieXD> everything
you can imagine! (or better: everything you can progrma in lua
^^)
 
L1084[12:55:26] <T_roM_A> im not good at
programming..
 
L1085[12:55:37] <T_roM_A> this place has
alot more people on then i thought
 
L1087[12:55:40] <T_roM_A> !
 
L1088[12:55:42] <XDjackieXD> time to
learn lua :) (it's not that hard ^^)
 
L1089[12:55:45] <T_roM_A> tthats
alot......
 
L1091[12:56:01] <T_roM_A> how many people
are on at one time
 
L1092[12:56:03] <Lizzy> Mimiru, you need
to put a rate limiter on
 
L1093[12:56:08] <Lizzy> brain
 
L1094[12:56:11] <Lizzy> enter is not
backspace
 
L1095[12:56:19] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L1096[12:56:21] <T_roM_A> i just used the
opencomputer website to try this..
 
L1097[12:56:26] <Lizzy> T_roM_A, in this
chat room? currently 128
 
L1098[12:56:28] <T_roM_A> i didnt know
this
 
L1099[12:56:35] <T_roM_A> WHAT
 
L1100[12:56:39] <T_roM_A> *faints*
 
L1101[12:56:51] <XDjackieXD> I don't
think that all 128 of them are on at the moment :P
 
L1102[12:56:53] <Lizzy> not everyone is
talking mind you, but there are 128 users here
 
L1103[12:57:04] <T_roM_A> this is
amazing
 
L1104[12:57:08] <T_roM_A> and this is in
minecraft!
 
L1105[12:57:24] <T_roM_A> but how is the
server running all this?
 
L1106[12:57:26] <gamax92> this is
madness
 
L1107[12:57:32] <Vexatos> this is
madness!
 
L1108[12:57:33] ***
EnderBot2 is now known as Leonidas 
L1109[12:57:33] <Leonidas>
Madness....?
 
L1110[12:57:34] <Leonidas> THIS.
 
L1111[12:57:34] <gamax92> Lizzy: did you
get rid of it? :<
 
L1112[12:57:34] <Leonidas> IS.
 
L1113[12:57:35] <Leonidas> #oc!!
 
L1114[12:57:35] <gamax92> oh
 
L1115[12:57:36] ***
Leonidas is now known as EnderBot2 
L1116[12:57:36] <EnderBot2> Seriously,
what did you think this was?
 
L1117[12:57:42] <T_roM_A> a chat room
-.-
 
L1118[12:57:45] <gamax92> i need a
!
 
L1119[12:57:46] <T_roM_A> xD
 
L1120[12:57:57] <Lizzy> gamax92,
it's only triggerable by certain people
 
L1121[12:58:05] <T_roM_A> this is like a
secret server chat...
 
L1122[12:58:20] <Lizzy> eh, not so
much
 
L1123[12:58:26] <T_roM_A> but i wanna use
my remote terminal to chat
 
L1124[12:58:29] <T_roM_A> i dont know
how
 
L1125[12:58:30] <gamax92> oh
 
L1126[12:58:32] *
gamax92 is not special 
L1127[12:58:40] <XDjackieXD> (madness)
did enderbot2 really do this? :P
 
L1128[12:58:51] <gamax92> Hey there
jackie
 
L1129[12:58:52] <T_roM_A> how do i
connect my terminal to this chat?
 
L1130[12:59:00] <XDjackieXD> hi
gamax92
 
L1131[12:59:12] <XDjackieXD> download a
irc lient for oc :)
 
L1132[12:59:12] <Lizzy> T_roM_A, if you
set up a server and bind the terminal to it, you can have irc on
that
 
L1133[12:59:20] <T_roM_A> ill try
 
L1134[12:59:21] <Lizzy> XDjackieXD,
he's using the irc client
 
L1135[12:59:22] <T_roM_A> brb
 
L1136[12:59:23] <gamax92> T_roM_A: there
is the openirc program that's on the irc floppy disk
 
L1137[12:59:25] <T_roM_A> wait
 
L1138[12:59:27] <gamax92> oh wait
what?
 
L1139[12:59:31] <T_roM_A> oh..
 
L1140[12:59:34] <Lizzy> don't any of
you whois?
 
L1141[12:59:37] <gamax92> no
 
L1142[12:59:46] <gamax92> I don't
feel to stalk everyone
 
L1143[12:59:49] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L1144[12:59:59] <T_roM_A> lemme
reboot
 
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L1147[13:00:57] <T_roM_A> back
 
L1148[13:01:03] <T_roM_A> yeah i got no
clue
 
L1149[13:01:53] <T_roM_A> the server
racks says there is no cpu installed
 
L1150[13:02:13] <Lizzy> take the server
out and right click with it in your hand
 
L1151[13:02:21] <T_roM_A> ok
 
L1152[13:03:18] <T_roM_A> now what
 
L1153[13:03:29] <T_roM_A> i installed
everything
 
L1154[13:03:45] <Lizzy> now put it back
in the server rack and try starting it again
 
L1155[13:04:04] <T_roM_A> dosent
work
 
L1156[13:04:16] <Lizzy> what error?
 
L1157[13:04:25] <T_roM_A> no error
 
L1158[13:04:27] <T_roM_A> just wont
start
 
L1159[13:04:47] <Lizzy> get yourself an
analyzer and shift-rightclick the server
 
L1160[13:05:16] <T_roM_A> ok done
 
L1161[13:05:21] <T_roM_A> i shift right
clicked the rack
 
L1162[13:05:38] <T_roM_A> with the
analyzer
 
L1163[13:05:47] <Lizzy> do it on the
server itself within the rack, it should give you a reason as to
why it didn't boot
 
L1164[13:06:28] <T_roM_A> it needs a
bios
 
L1165[13:06:50] <T_roM_A> now it dosent
work..
 
L1166[13:06:50] <Lizzy> did you put the
EEPROM (Lua BIOS) in it?
 
L1167[13:06:52] <T_roM_A> again
 
L1168[13:06:55] <T_roM_A> i just
did
 
L1169[13:07:04] <Lizzy> use the
analyzer
 
L1170[13:08:03] <T_roM_A> it needs a
configured eprom?
 
L1171[13:08:13] <T_roM_A> EEPROM
 
L1172[13:08:22] <Lizzy> the Lua BIOS one
should work
 
L1173[13:08:34] <T_roM_A> ill try
again
 
L1174[13:10:18] <T_roM_A> dreboot
 
L1175[13:10:23] <T_roM_A> its
breaking
 
L1176[13:10:27] <T_roM_A> alot
 
L1178[13:10:35] <T_roM_A> alot?
 
L1180[13:10:38] <T_roM_A> weird..
 
L1181[13:10:47] <T_roM_A> the chat almost
crashed
 
L1182[13:12:12] <gamax92> It's okay,
they'll never learn it's "a lot"
 
L1183[13:12:22] <gamax92> a lot of people
also don't get that.
 
L1184[13:13:07] <XDjackieXD> ^^
 
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L1186[13:13:34] <XDjackieXD> the
"this is madness!" one from enderBot2 is funnier XD
 
L1187[13:14:07] ***
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L1189[13:16:07] <T_roM_a> HI
 
L1190[13:16:19] <T_roM_a> i crhased
 
L1191[13:16:20] <T_roM_a> crashed
 
L1192[13:16:23] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L1193[13:16:42] <T_roM_a> my
opencomputers server rack wont start
 
L1194[13:16:42] <Lizzy> lol
 
L1195[13:16:52] <T_roM_a> i had
everything!
 
L1196[13:16:54] <Lizzy> what error is the
analyzer giving you?
 
L1197[13:17:04] <T_roM_a> hold on
 
L1198[13:17:43] <T_roM_a> no bootable
medium found no file found
 
L1199[13:18:13] <XDjackieXD> try to put
an openOS floppy inside
 
L1200[13:18:24] <T_roM_a> H O W
 
L1201[13:18:39] <XDjackieXD> doesn't
a server have a built in floppy drive?
 
L1202[13:18:39] <T_roM_a> you kinda
cant
 
L1203[13:18:44] <T_roM_a> nope
 
L1204[13:18:55] <XDjackieXD> than connect
a floppy drive
 
L1205[13:18:57] <T_roM_a> im using 1.7.10
opencomputers
 
L1206[13:19:16] <T_roM_a> fine
 
L1207[13:19:18] <T_roM_a> now what
 
L1208[13:19:24] <XDjackieXD> it's
basically the same as 1.8 (except for code-changes to make it work
in 1.8)
 
L1209[13:19:26] <T_roM_a> i put in a
diskdrive with openos
 
L1210[13:19:35] <Lizzy> try botting up
the server
 
L1211[13:19:37] <Lizzy> *booting
 
L1212[13:19:51] <T_roM_a> nope
 
L1213[13:20:06] <Lizzy> are you sure you
connected the cable to the right side?
 
L1214[13:20:22] <Lizzy> the sides in the
GUI are relative to the front of the case
 
L1215[13:20:30] <T_roM_a> tthere
allYEAH
 
L1216[13:20:32] <T_roM_a> iT WONT
 
L1217[13:20:34] <T_roM_a> worked
 
L1218[13:20:35] <T_roM_a> i mean
 
L1219[13:20:41] <Lizzy> calm
youself
 
L1220[13:20:44] <T_roM_a> i just needed
to use cables..
 
L1221[13:20:46] <T_roM_a> fail..
 
L1222[13:20:52] *
Lizzy shrug 
L1223[13:21:13] <T_roM_a> how do i
connect my terminal to it..
 
L1224[13:21:34] <Lizzy> shift+right-click
with the terminal in your hand on the server
 
L1225[13:22:06] <T_roM_a> wocchat
 
L1226[13:22:08] <T_roM_a> how..
 
L1227[13:22:13] <T_roM_a> dangit sleep
mode
 
L1228[13:22:17] <Lizzy> ?
 
L1229[13:22:25] <T_roM_a> it went to
sleep mode
 
L1230[13:22:32] <T_roM_a> idk how to
connect servers
 
L1231[13:22:36] <gamax92> since when does
openos have sleep mode
 
L1232[13:22:49] <XDjackieXD> idk ^^
 
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L1234[13:23:08] <gamax92> r.i.p
 
L1235[13:23:19] <gamax92> there is no
sleep mode? ...
 
L1236[13:23:40] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L1237[13:23:51] <XDjackieXD> I don't
think there is...
 
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L1241[13:24:53] <T_roM_A> ok
 
L1242[13:24:58] <T_roM_A> it should be
working
 
L1243[13:25:04] <Lizzy> yep
 
L1244[13:25:11] <T_roM_A> but
 
L1245[13:25:22] <T_roM_A> it wont let me
chat on the thing
 
L1246[13:25:36] <T_roM_A> wocchat
 
L1247[13:25:39] <T_roM_A> hmm
 
L1248[13:25:42] <XDjackieXD> Internet
card is in there?
 
L1249[13:25:43] <T_roM_A> it wont take
the file
 
L1250[13:25:46] <XDjackieXD> oh
 
L1251[13:25:46] <gamax92> why do you keep
saying wocchat
 
L1252[13:25:47] <T_roM_A> yeah
 
L1253[13:25:57] <T_roM_A> to try to get
it to activate
 
L1254[13:26:13] <Lizzy> ?
 
L1255[13:26:14] <gamax92> ...
activate?
 
L1256[13:26:22] <T_roM_A> when i chat
here
 
L1257[13:26:28] <T_roM_A> a command goes
out into the server
 
L1258[13:26:34] <T_roM_A> of what im
saying
 
L1259[13:26:41] <T_roM_A> i say
openos
 
L1260[13:26:44] <T_roM_A> openos
 
L1261[13:26:52] <T_roM_A> its a
command
 
L1262[13:27:03] *
Lizzy is confuzzeled 
L1263[13:27:14] <gamax92> I have no idea
what is going on
 
L1264[13:27:15] <T_roM_A> its the cycle
network thingy
 
L1265[13:27:31] <gamax92> the what.
 
L1266[13:27:42] <T_roM_A> i get
duplacaite messages
 
L1267[13:27:55] <T_roM_A> the server is
connected to my computer.....
 
L1268[13:27:56] <gamax92> so then
don't do that?
 
L1269[13:27:59] <T_roM_A> when i
talk
 
L1270[13:28:12] <T_roM_A> it takes the
command
 
L1271[13:28:33] <T_roM_A> but it cant
find the file
 
L1272[13:28:39] <T_roM_A> ugh
 
L1273[13:28:41] <T_roM_A> let me
reboot
 
L1274[13:28:51] ***
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L1275[13:28:56] <gamax92> wait how does
duplicate messages work if its an internet card ...
 
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L1278[13:30:37] <T_roM_A> aha
 
L1279[13:30:51] <T_roM_A> i can use the
keyboard for my terminal remote again
 
L1280[13:31:00] <T_roM_A> just cant find
the wocchat file..
 
L1281[13:31:05] <gamax92> did you install
it?
 
L1282[13:31:15] <T_roM_A> ill try
 
L1283[13:31:20] <gamax92> wocchat comes
from oppm, not the irc floppy
 
L1284[13:31:28] <gamax92> the irc floppy
has a command called irc
 
L1285[13:32:45] <T_roM_A> hmm
 
L1286[13:32:50] <T_roM_A> i connected it
with cables
 
L1287[13:33:04] <gamax92> what is
"it"
 
L1288[13:33:09] <T_roM_A> it says /bin/sh
file not found
 
L1289[13:33:17] <T_roM_A> cant resolve
shell
 
L1290[13:33:23] <Lizzy> did you take out
the openos disk?
 
L1291[13:33:30] <gamax92> don't take
out the openos disk
 
L1292[13:33:44] <T_roM_A> maybe..
 
L1293[13:33:46] <XDjackieXD> or install
openos to a hdd
 
L1294[13:33:59] <T_roM_A> i did..
 
L1295[13:34:12] <T_roM_A> still wont
work
 
L1296[13:34:15] <T_roM_A> hdd?
 
L1297[13:34:21] <XDjackieXD> rebooted
after the installation?
 
L1298[13:34:22] <T_roM_A> im not that
tech wizy
 
L1299[13:34:38] <gamax92> You know, the
item thing called a "Hard disk drive"
 
L1300[13:34:48] <T_roM_A> its
installed!
 
L1301[13:34:56] <T_roM_A> lemme reboot
it
 
L1302[13:35:02] <T_roM_A> sigh
 
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L1304[13:35:12] <T_roM_A> welp the server
broke
 
L1305[13:35:21] <XDjackieXD> what?
 
L1306[13:35:38] <T_roM_A> the components
wont analyaze
 
L1307[13:35:47] <T_roM_A> soo yeah
 
L1308[13:35:50] <gamax92> ... what
 
L1309[13:35:54] <T_roM_A> there we
go
 
L1310[13:36:05] *
gamax92 feels like Mimiru 
L1311[13:36:06] <T_roM_A> UGH
 
L1312[13:36:08] <gamax92> bbl
 
L1313[13:36:08] <T_roM_A> IT WONT
WORK!
 
L1314[13:36:10] ***
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L1315[13:36:15] <T_roM_A> rage quit
 
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L1317[13:36:53] <XDjackieXD> ^^
 
L1318[13:37:12] <cloakable> lol
 
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L1320[13:37:21] <gamax92> they should
never be allowed near a computer
 
L1321[13:37:29] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L1322[13:38:07] <vifino> I.. I don't
even. I read the backlog and I have no idea what this was.
 
L1323[13:38:18] <gamax92> computer ...
sleep mode? components ... analyze? ...
 
L1324[13:38:20] <gamax92> like what
 
L1325[13:38:31] <gamax92> internet card
... duplicate messages?
 
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L1327[13:39:18] *
XDjackieXD is also a bit confused what T_roM_A ment 
L1328[13:39:33] <XDjackieXD> especially
the sleep mode was interesting :P
 
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L1330[13:43:12] <Fridtjof_mc> Sangar, are
you there?
 
L1331[13:43:37] <gamax92> Sangar is not
here, atleast thats what his status says
 
L1332[13:43:44] <Fridtjof_mc> oh
alright
 
L1333[13:43:48] <Fridtjof_mc> maybe you
can help me
 
L1334[13:43:54] <vifino> Fridtjof_mc:
ohai prassel
 
L1335[13:43:58] <Fridtjof_mc> we have a
server and want to use an adapter with it
 
L1336[13:44:06] <Fridtjof_mc> somehow it
doesnt find the adapter
 
L1337[13:44:57] <gamax92> I don't
believe the adapter itself shows up as a component but the things
attached to it do
 
L1338[13:45:08] <Fridtjof_mc> oh
okay
 
L1339[13:45:20] <Fridtjof_mc> i believe
then it's pneumaticcraft's problem
 
L1340[13:45:51] <gamax92> Fridtjof_mc: do
you know if pneumaticcraft natively supports OpenComputers?
 
L1341[13:46:18] <gamax92> Or if it
supports ComputerCraft (therefor requiring the adapter)
 
L1342[13:46:29] <Fridtjof_mc> only
supports CC
 
L1343[13:46:43] <Fridtjof_mc> when we
connect it directly to OC however
 
L1344[13:46:46] <Fridtjof_mc> without an
adapter
 
L1345[13:46:49] <Fridtjof_mc> and to a
normal computer
 
L1346[13:46:57] <Fridtjof_mc> it crashes
saying there's too many components
 
L1347[13:47:07] <gamax92> oh, then you
need to upgrade your CPU
 
L1348[13:47:11] <Fridtjof_mc> apparently
connecting one component connects everytzhing on the pipe net
 
L1349[13:47:16] <Fridtjof_mc> it's
tier 3 already
 
L1350[13:47:24] <gamax92> ahh I
see.
 
L1351[13:47:25] <Fridtjof_mc> thats why
we tried a server for buses
 
L1352[13:47:43] <Vexatos> gamax92, it
supports OC natively
 
L1353[13:47:57] <Fridtjof_mc> wait it
does?
 
L1354[13:48:38] <Lizzy> does anyone know
what the latest glib is for ubuntu?
 
L1355[13:48:45] <gamax92> Lizzy: which
version
 
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L1357[13:48:48] <T_roM_A> i have given
up
 
L1358[13:48:54] <gamax92> okay
 
L1359[13:48:55] <T_roM_A> forever
 
L1360[13:48:58] <Lizzy> sorry, not
ubuntu, debian 8
 
L1361[13:49:05] <Lizzy> i'm not
having a good day today
 
L1362[13:49:19] <T_roM_A> *faints of
exhaustion*
 
L1363[13:49:20] <gamax92> Fridtjof_mc:
Then I'm not quite sure who would be needed to contact, it
sorta sounds like it's pneumaticcraft fault with component
visibility
 
L1364[13:49:36] <gamax92> considiering it
cannot be used with a max tier CPU
 
L1365[13:49:56] <T_roM_A> ugh
 
L1366[13:50:10] <T_roM_A> to much
more
 
L1367[13:50:16] <T_roM_A> work
 
L1368[13:50:26] <T_roM_A> irc dosent
work
 
L1369[13:50:29] <T_roM_A> nothing
does..
 
L1370[13:50:37] <T_roM_A> does a irc mod
work with this chat room?
 
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L1373[13:50:56] <T_roM_A> wow
 
L1374[13:50:58] <Lizzy> there's no
reason why they shouldnt
 
L1375[13:51:02] <gamaxOC> wocchat works
just f ine
 
L1376[13:51:06] <gamaxOC> <--
wocchat
 
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Quit) 
L1378[13:51:19] <cloakable> <--
quassel
 
L1379[13:51:27] <gamax92> good it left
again
 
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L1381[13:52:01] <T_roM_A> sigh
 
L1382[13:52:09] <T_roM_A> atleast it made
it remember my nickname
 
L1383[13:52:35] <T_roM_A> im so
annoyed
 
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L1385[13:53:10] <T_roM_A> too bad i cant
watch tv on this xD
 
L1386[13:53:16] <T_roM_A> or can
i>
 
L1387[13:53:17] <T_roM_A> ?
 
L1388[13:53:48] <gamaxOC> no not
really.
 
L1389[13:54:00] <T_roM_A> i cant make a
moving picture plugin
 
L1390[13:54:03] <T_roM_A> or
program
 
L1391[13:54:19] <XDjackieXD> you could
use vlc to convert a video stream live to ascii art and stream this
to OC via tcp ^^
 
L1392[13:54:35] <T_roM_A> what
 
L1393[13:54:39] <T_roM_A> ...
 
L1394[13:54:43] <T_roM_A> im not good at
tech
 
L1395[13:54:55] <T_roM_A> i needed the
website to figure out how to make this computer
 
L1396[13:55:13] <T_roM_A> and i cant even
make a simple server
 
L1397[13:55:24] <cloakable> Holy
crap
 
L1398[13:55:27] <T_roM_A> to use this all
around my singleplayer workd
 
L1399[13:55:28] <T_roM_A> world
 
L1400[13:55:47] <XDjackieXD> vlc media
player has a output plugin "Ascii art" and you could
stream this via TCP to a OC computer
 
L1401[13:56:03] <T_roM_A> wait you
mean
 
L1402[13:56:11] <T_roM_A> i can chat
without being in minecraft
 
L1403[13:56:21] <T_roM_A> i can be on
google and still chat
 
L1404[13:56:36] <XDjackieXD> ?
 
L1405[13:56:43] <gamax92> ?
 
L1406[13:56:43] <T_roM_A> and i just so
happen to have vlc media player!
 
L1407[13:56:51] <T_roM_A> i got a
idea
 
L1408[13:56:52] <gamax92> No, you
don't use VLC for chat :P
 
L1409[13:57:02]
Lizzy sets mode: -o on Lizzy 
L1410[13:57:02] <T_roM_A> a vlc media
player to show me the chat
 
L1411[13:57:06] <XDjackieXD> you can just
use a normal IRC client and connect to this IRC server (mIRC for
example)
 
L1412[13:57:07] <gamax92> ... no.
 
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L1415[13:57:20] <T_roM_A> ....
 
L1416[13:57:21] <gamax92> Lizzy: I cannot
deop myself, licky :<
 
L1417[13:57:27] <T_roM_A> what irc
client?
 
L1418[13:57:27] <gamax92> lucky*
 
L1419[13:58:01] <T_roM_A> ive never used
irc clients..
 
L1420[13:58:02] <Lizzy> Hexchat is a good
one
 
L1421[13:58:10] <T_roM_A> how do i get
that?
 
L1422[13:58:17] <gamax92> How do you
google?
 
L1423[13:58:25] <T_roM_A> by
googleing..
 
L1424[13:58:29] <gamax92> So then do
that.
 
L1425[13:58:30] <XDjackieXD> other way
around. you can use vlc to convert video to text-art and you could
(I have neither tried this nor have an idea how to do this) stream
this text-video to OC to view text-art-video inside of Minecraft on
a OC Computer
 
L1426[13:58:46] *
XDjackieXD uses Pidgin ^^ 
L1427[13:59:04] <T_roM_A> uhh
what..
 
L1428[13:59:18] <gamax92> XDjackieXD:
I'mma go try that now :P
 
L1429[13:59:54] <T_roM_A> hexchat isnt
for me
 
L1430[13:59:57] <XDjackieXD> gamax92 the
ascii art output plugin of vlc is funny ^^ (but it works well if
you don't have a X-Server :P)
 
L1431[14:00:02]
⇨ Joins: Ender (~lizzy@janus.theender.net) 
L1432[14:00:02]
zsh sets mode: +o on Ender 
L1433[14:00:09] <vifino> Lizzy: You can
op/voice me instead :3
 
L1434[14:00:15] *
vifino hides 
L1435[14:00:20] <T_roM_A> i want a way
to
 
L1436[14:00:20] *
Ender pets vifino 
L1437[14:00:23] <T_roM_A> use
google
 
L1438[14:00:33] <T_roM_A> and have the
wocchat window still up
 
L1439[14:00:45] <vifino> T_roM_A: 1) open
your web browser 2) open google
 
L1440[14:00:50] <gamax92> ^
 
L1441[14:00:57] <Stary|web> ha
 
L1442[14:01:01] <T_roM_A> sigh.....
 
L1443[14:01:02] *
vifino purrs 
L1444[14:01:02] <gamax92> Seriously how
is that so hard
 
L1445[14:01:10] <T_roM_A> my computer
sucks
 
L1446[14:01:19] <T_roM_A> im suprised it
hasnt crashed yet
 
L1447[14:01:24] ***
Ender is now known as LizzyTrickster 
L1448[14:01:32] <vifino> LizzyTrickster:
Can haz? :3
 
L1449[14:01:36] *
vifino hides again 
L1450[14:01:41] <LizzyTrickster> ?
 
L1451[14:01:44] <T_roM_A> im just playing
minecraft
 
L1452[14:02:14] <vifino> LizzyTrickster:
Can has op/voice? :P
 
L1453[14:02:24] <LizzyTrickster>
hmm
 
L1454[14:02:26] <LizzyTrickster> ow
 
L1455[14:02:27] <LizzyTrickster> ow
 
L1456[14:02:31] <LizzyTrickster> ow, foot
cram
 
L1457[14:02:32] <LizzyTrickster>
shit
 
L1458[14:02:34] <LizzyTrickster>
*cramp
 
L1459[14:02:36] <vifino> o.o
 
L1460[14:03:11] <T_roM_A> how do i add
another floppy disc to a tablet
 
L1462[14:03:25] <MichiBot> Lizzy:
Rika's Suicide | length 
20s | Likes:
40 Dislikes: 
3 Views: 
8785 | by iOtakuPrincess
 
L1463[14:03:40] <gamaxOC> <3
wocchat's color support
 
L1464[14:04:03] <gamaxOC> is actually
green and red here
 
L1465[14:04:14] <XDjackieXD> Lizzy
dafuq?
 
L1466[14:04:39] <Lizzy> urghh, windows
has decided it wont play videos anymore, again
 
L1467[14:04:40] <Lizzy> .-.
 
L1468[14:04:48] <XDjackieXD> just use VLC
:P
 
L1469[14:04:57] <T_roM_A> windows does
suck
 
L1470[14:05:01] <T_roM_A> thats why my pc
sucks
 
L1471[14:05:03] <Lizzy> XDjackieXD, no,
it wont play anything
 
L1472[14:05:17] <XDjackieXD> I use it for
everything (watching tv, watching yt, streaming from twitch &
other rtmp sources, ...)
 
L1474[14:05:45] <XDjackieXD> Lizzy
hardware decoding broken? :P
 
L1475[14:05:57] <Lizzy> i think w10 just
decides "nope" every now and then and wont do anything
that requires advanced graphical power
 
L1476[14:06:00] <Lizzy> XDjackieXD, no
idea
 
L1477[14:06:14] <XDjackieXD> Lizzy try
forcing vlc to software decoding
 
L1478[14:06:18] <vifino> Sorry to say,
Cloud9, but I'm not into online ide's. I am more into
Lizzy.
 
L1479[14:06:27] <XDjackieXD> ^^
 
L1480[14:06:37] <vifino> And vim.
 
L1481[14:06:46] <vifino> Both have a very
special place in my heart :3
 
L1482[14:07:01] <Lizzy> how do you get
vlc working with youtube?
 
L1483[14:07:03] <gamax92> vifino: how da
fak do you delete newlines in vi
 
L1484[14:07:12] <vifino> gamax92: ...
wat?
 
L1485[14:07:23] <Lizzy> wait nvm
 
L1486[14:07:32] <T_roM_A> im gonna use a
tablet to connect to here
 
L1487[14:08:33] <gamax92> vifino: I open
vi with a file, go to insert mode, go to the beginning of a line
and hit backspace
 
L1488[14:08:35] <gamax92> nothing
happens
 
L1489[14:10:01]
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(~Vexatos@p200300556E0665531C2D5FBA67E49E12.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 
L1490[14:10:02]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexaton 
L1491[14:10:04] <Lizzy> meh, gonna reboot
to linux and try and fix that
 
L1492[14:10:12]
⇦ Quits: Vexatos
(~Vexatos@p200300556E06655361F78F02B4C4F091.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
(Quit: I guess I have to go now. Bye ✔) 
L1493[14:10:17] <vifino> gamax92: :set
backspace=indent,eol,start
 
L1494[14:10:25] <gamaxOC> o_o
 
L1495[14:10:27] ***
Vexaton is now known as Vexatos 
L1496[14:10:34] <LizzyTrickster>
Vexatron
 
L1497[14:10:35] <gamaxOC>
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
 
L1498[14:10:36] <vifino> does it work
now?
 
L1499[14:10:51] <T_roM_A> how do i add a
network card to a creative tablet
 
L1500[14:11:00] <gamaxOC> nope
 
L1501[14:11:14] <Inari> Mimiru: why
floral powder no work in printer cartrdige D:
 
L1502[14:11:15] <vifino> What about using
vim instead? >_>
 
L1503[14:11:22] <gamaxOC> Because
router
 
L1504[14:11:27] <Vexatos> Sangar, you
here?
 
L1505[14:11:35] <gamaxOC> joe and nano
are not in opkg apparently
 
L1506[14:11:39] <XDjackieXD> Lizzy just
paste the yt link into vlc? (click the vlc window and press ctrl+v
:P)
 
L1507[14:12:06] <LizzyTrickster>
XDjackieXD: yeah, iw as doing that. rendering went buggered i
think
 
L1508[14:12:19] <LizzyTrickster>
it's not the first time it's happened
 
L1509[14:12:21] <LizzyTrickster> #p
 
L1510[14:12:23] <XDjackieXD> lol
 
L1511[14:12:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.446
Seconds passed.
 
L1512[14:12:29] <vifino> gamaxOC: as a
very bad workaround, you can just pplain delete lines, if you need
to. Hit dd in normal mode
 
L1513[14:12:32] <LizzyTrickster>
wut
 
L1514[14:12:39] <LizzyTrickster> %p
 
L1515[14:12:42] <MichiBot> Ping reply
from LizzyTrickster 2.74s
 
L1516[14:12:45] <gamaxOC> ... hit
dd?
 
L1517[14:12:45] *
vifino boops LizzyTrickster 
L1518[14:12:49]
⇨ Joins: Negi
(~Poireau@2a01:e35:2f6a:7060:e2ca:94ff:fe1f:76e0) 
L1519[14:12:55] <vifino> gamaxOC:
[ESC]dd
 
L1520[14:12:59] <Sangar> o/
 
L1521[14:13:02] <Sangar> Vexatos, am
now
 
L1522[14:13:03] <LizzyTrickster> \o
 
L1523[14:13:04] <gamaxOC> SANGAR
 
L1524[14:13:05] <cloakable> %p
 
L1525[14:13:06] <XDjackieXD> hi o/
 
L1526[14:13:06] <MichiBot> Ping reply
from cloakable 0.31s
 
L1527[14:13:11] <LizzyTrickster> %p
 
L1528[14:13:14] <MichiBot> Ping reply
from LizzyTrickster 3.13s
 
L1529[14:13:18] <gamaxOC> I really need
to fix the blinking ness of wocchat.
 
L1530[14:13:22] <Vexatos> Sangar, can a
ManagedEnvironment for adapters implement ManagedPeripheral?
 
L1531[14:13:25] *
vifino boops LizzyTrickster again 
L1532[14:13:28] <LizzyTrickster> yet i
get 0.4s ping from vifino
 
L1533[14:13:29] <gamaxOC> everytime a
message is added the entire screen blinks
 
L1534[14:13:32] *
LizzyTrickster double booped 
L1535[14:13:42] <Sangar> Vexatos, pretty
sure it can
 
L1536[14:13:53] <T_roM_A> lizzy
 
L1537[14:13:56] <vifino> LizzyTrickster:
Well, I'm closer to you than anybody else :3
 
L1538[14:14:00] <Vexatos> Sangar, have
you looked into the issue I posted on #1193?
 
L1539[14:14:05] <T_roM_A> H E Y
 
L1540[14:14:25] <Sangar> Vexatos, pretty
sure it's the same thing
 
L1541[14:14:31] <Sangar> see if it works
in the next build
 
L1542[14:14:40] <T_roM_A> wait
sangar....
 
L1543[14:14:42] <T_roM_A> holy..
 
L1544[14:14:47] <Lizzy> T_roM_A,
yes?
 
L1545[14:14:56] <T_roM_A> how do i add
things to a built tablet
 
L1546[14:14:59]
⇦ Quits: PotatoTrumpet_ (~PotatoTru@66.182.248.214) (Quit:
Leaving) 
L1547[14:15:02] <vifino> gamaxOC: does
the cursor move one char before/back? if so, it is behaving
correctly.
 
L1548[14:15:06] <T_roM_A> i got a
creative tablet i want to add a internet card to it
 
L1549[14:15:14] <T_roM_A> so i can use
wocchat on it
 
L1550[14:15:20] <vifino> vi doesn't
blank the character
 
L1551[14:15:23] <Lizzy> yay, Cinnamon
isn't being a PoS
 
L1552[14:15:26] <Vexatos> Sangar, same
thing?
 
L1553[14:15:29] <Sangar> you disassemble
it and build a new one >_>
 
L1554[14:15:33] <Vexatos> But changing
the state isn't breaking the block
 
L1555[14:15:34] <Vexatos> is it
 
L1556[14:15:34] <T_roM_A> i cant
 
L1557[14:15:36] <Sangar> Vexatos, the
redstone not updating, yeah
 
L1558[14:15:48] <Sangar> eh
 
L1559[14:15:52] <Sangar> oh, that's
what you mean
 
L1560[14:15:52] <T_roM_A> then it wont
have a floppy disc slot
 
L1561[14:16:07]
⇨ Joins: PotatoTrumpet
(~PotatoTru@66.182.248.214) 
L1562[14:16:07] <T_roM_A> idk how to add
one...
 
L1563[14:16:14] ***
Skye|ExamRevision is now known as Skye 
L1564[14:16:16] <Lizzy> oh look, 20
updates for my LM install
 
L1565[14:16:35] <PotatoTrumpet> YOU SPIN
ME RIGHT RIGHT ROUND BABY RIGHT ROUND LIKE A RECORD BABY RIGHT
ROUND ROUND ROUND
 
L1566[14:16:40] *
PotatoTrumpet walks away 
L1567[14:16:45] <Lizzy> PotatoTrumpet,
:D
 
L1568[14:16:57] <Sangar> Vexatos, hrm, if
i get what you mean, then it should not work correctly for redstone
i/o blocks, either, though
 
L1569[14:17:09] <XDjackieXD>
PotatoTrumpet XD
 
L1570[14:17:43] <PotatoTrumpet> Vote to
make that the MOTD for 1 day
 
L1571[14:17:48] <PotatoTrumpet>
anyways
 
L1572[14:17:51] ***
Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off 
L1573[14:17:56] <PotatoTrumpet> still
kinda sad my friend went back to Germany
 
L1574[14:18:00] <T_roM_A> sangar
 
L1575[14:18:03] <Vexatos> Sangar,
basically, I made a 3D-printed door
 
L1576[14:18:06] <PotatoTrumpet> just
found out they had an article about him in the newspaper
 
L1577[14:18:14] <Vexatos> the top part
working like a lever
 
L1578[14:18:17] <Vexatos> the bottom one
like a door
 
L1579[14:18:19] <Lizzy> weeewwww mouse
cursor speed is so much faster
 
L1580[14:18:21] <T_roM_A> how do i add a
floppy disc slot to a tablet..
 
L1581[14:18:23] <Vexatos> open top part,
nothing happens
 
L1582[14:18:25] <XDjackieXD> list
 
L1583[14:18:28] <Vexatos> close top part,
bottom part opens
 
L1584[14:18:29] <T_roM_A> sigh..
 
L1585[14:18:30] <XDjackieXD> sry wrong
window
 
L1586[14:18:34] <Sangar> T_roM_A, disk
drive
 
L1587[14:18:34] <Vexatos> but when you
give it a block update it closes
 
L1588[14:18:41] <T_roM_A> oh..
 
L1589[14:18:41] <Vexatos> RS output seems
delayed somehow
 
L1590[14:18:46] <Vexatos> from print to
print
 
L1591[14:18:51] <T_roM_A> yay!
 
L1592[14:18:54] <PotatoTrumpet> Mimiru, y
u c8ng ur n4me
 
L1593[14:19:07] <Sangar> Vexatos, uhhh,
that... wat
 
L1594[14:19:11] <vifino> PotatoTrumpet:
.hack happened.
 
L1595[14:19:30] *
vifino flops on Lizzy 
L1596[14:19:38] <Vexatos> Sangar, I can
give you 2 models to test with
 
L1597[14:19:39] *
Lizzy hugs vifino 
L1598[14:20:05] *
vifino lays down on Lizzy facing her, hugs and kisses her
:3 
L1599[14:20:09] ***
Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage 
L1601[14:21:35]
⇨ Joins: T_roM_A2 (~t_rom_a2@108.214.164.15) 
L1602[14:21:36] <T_roM_A2> Yeah it
works
 
L1603[14:21:41] <rashdanml> o/
 
L1604[14:21:44] <PotatoTrumpet> So
uh
 
L1605[14:21:45] <Vexatos> place those
adjacent to the other and rightclick the top one a few times
 
L1606[14:21:46] <T_roM_A2> im using the
tablet for it
 
L1607[14:21:50] <Vexatos> and do block
updates etc
 
L1608[14:21:51] <T_roM_A2> wooo
 
L1609[14:21:52] <PotatoTrumpet> I still
don't get the whole Lizzy + vifino thing
 
L1610[14:21:58] <T_roM_A2> lizzy it
works
 
L1611[14:22:02] <Lizzy> ?
 
L1612[14:22:08] <T_roM_A2> i dont have to
stay in one place in my game
 
L1613[14:22:08] <Lizzy> T_roM_A2,
awesome
 
L1614[14:22:20] <T_roM_A2> i prefer my
real name
 
L1615[14:22:29] <T_roM_A2> just needs to
charge faster
 
L1616[14:22:36]
⇦ Quits: T_roM_A2 (~t_rom_a2@108.214.164.15) (Remote host
closed the connection) 
L1617[14:22:38] <Lizzy> PotatoTrumpet,
*p[okr(
 
L1618[14:22:40] <Lizzy> 57b
 
L1619[14:22:40] <Lizzy> e
 
L1620[14:22:41] <Lizzy> n
 
L1622[14:22:41] <Lizzy> Nr
 
L1623[14:22:52] *
Lizzy dies 
L1624[14:22:56] <XDjackieXD> Lizzy what
was that? :P
 
L1625[14:22:57] <PotatoTrumpet> Error:
expected string, got gibberish
 
L1626[14:22:59] *
rashdanml pats Lizzy 
L1627[14:23:07] *
rashdanml digs a grave for Lizzy 
L1628[14:23:10]
⇨ Joins: T_roM_A2 (~t_rom_a2@108.214.164.15) 
L1629[14:23:14] <T_roM_A2> soo yeah
 
L1630[14:23:19] *
PotatoTrumpet shoves rashdanml into Lizzy's grave 
L1631[14:23:21] <XDjackieXD> I think
Lizzy is bugged :D
 
L1632[14:23:26] *
PotatoTrumpet burys rashdanml and revives Lizzy 
L1633[14:23:28] <T_roM_A2> im gonna go
back to my computer way
 
L1634[14:23:42]
⇦ Quits: T_roM_A2 (~t_rom_a2@108.214.164.15) (Remote host
closed the connection) 
L1635[14:23:43] *
Lizzy undies 
L1636[14:24:09]
⇦ Quits: T_roM_A (~t_rom_a@108.214.164.15) (Remote host
closed the connection) 
L1637[14:24:18] <rashdanml> :(
 
L1638[14:24:19]
⇦ Quits: gamaxOC
(~gamaxoc@c-75-70-114-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) (Quit:
gamaxOC) 
L1639[14:24:22]
⇨ Joins: T_roM_A (~t_rom_a@108.214.164.15) 
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(~gamaxoc@c-75-70-114-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 
L1641[14:24:29] <T_roM_A> soo im
happy
 
L1642[14:24:45] <T_roM_A> and now im
taking a break to eat
 
L1643[14:24:46] <T_roM_A> brb
 
L1644[14:25:21] *
PotatoTrumpet stabs gamax92 in the thigh 
L1645[14:25:27] <gamax92> y u do
this
 
L1646[14:25:50] <Lizzy> so,
PotatoTrumpet, "<PotatoTrumpet> I still don't get
the whole Lizzy + vifino thing"
 
L1647[14:25:57] <Lizzy> Elaborate
please
 
L1648[14:26:12] <PotatoTrumpet> Is it
just AN IRC THING OR IS IT IRL
 
L1649[14:26:16]
⇦ Quits: gamaxOC
(~gamaxoc@c-75-70-114-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) (Client
Quit) 
L1650[14:26:16] <PotatoTrumpet>
Whoops
 
L1651[14:26:18]
⇨ Joins: gamaxOC
(~gamaxoc@c-75-70-114-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 
L1652[14:26:19] <PotatoTrumpet> sorry for
yelling
 
L1653[14:26:19] <rashdanml> I think
vifino is a cat
 
L1654[14:26:23] <T_roM_A> gtg
 
L1655[14:26:26]
⇦ Quits: T_roM_A (~t_rom_a@108.214.164.15) (Remote host
closed the connection) 
L1656[14:26:27] <PotatoTrumpet>
adios
 
L1657[14:26:40] <Lizzy> suddenly, randing
potato trumpet
 
L1658[14:26:43] <Lizzy> urhgghgfhj
 
L1659[14:27:03] <PotatoTrumpet> THIS
WHOLE CHANNEL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME
 
L1660[14:27:10]
⇦ Parts: PotatoTrumpet (~PotatoTru@66.182.248.214)
(AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH)) 
L1661[14:27:22] <XDjackieXD> XD
 
L1662[14:27:42] <Lizzy> Unhandled
exception in Lizzy: fucks_given=-5
 
L1663[14:27:43] <rashdanml> I've
given up trying to make sense of it
 
L1664[14:27:57] <Lizzy> I've given
up
 
L1665[14:27:58] <rashdanml> playing along
is entertaining :3
 
L1666[14:28:14] <XDjackieXD> it is
^^
 
L1667[14:28:54] <vifino> rashdanml: I am
cat.
 
L1668[14:29:10]
⇨ Joins: PotatoTrumpet
(~PotatoTru@66.182.248.214) 
L1669[14:29:12] <rashdanml> :o
 
L1670[14:29:21] *
rashdanml sprays vifino with water 
L1671[14:29:32]
⇦ Parts: Fridtjof_mc (~EIRC_RR@p4FF112BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
()) 
L1672[14:29:34] *
Lizzy beats rashdanml within an inch of their life 
L1673[14:29:35] *
PotatoTrumpet sprays vifino with hydrochloric acid 
L1674[14:29:43] *
Lizzy beats PotatoTrumpet within an inch of their life 
L1675[14:29:55] *
PotatoTrumpet sprays Lizzy with dihydrogen monoxide 
L1676[14:30:02] <rashdanml> XDD
 
L1677[14:30:03] *
vifino wet 
L1678[14:30:24] *
vifino flops on Lizzy 
L1679[14:30:53] <rashdanml> I need
coffee, brb
 
L1680[14:30:59] *
PotatoTrumpet stabs a sword through Lizzy and vifino 
L1681[14:31:36] <PotatoTrumpet> You know,
as they say,
 
L1682[14:31:46] <PotatoTrumpet> Boil em,
mash em, stick em in a stew
 
L1683[14:31:56] *
Lizzy doesn't care 
L1684[14:32:06]
⇦ Quits: gamaxOC
(~gamaxoc@c-75-70-114-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) (Quit:
gamaxOC) 
L1685[14:32:09]
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(~gamaxoc@c-75-70-114-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 
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(~Acheloos@77.116.75.90.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 
L1687[14:32:17] <Acheloos> this is
madness!
 
L1688[14:32:17] <EnderBot2> Welcome to
#oc, that happens a lot here
 
L1689[14:32:26] <PotatoTrumpet> THIS IS
ANARCHY
 
L1690[14:32:40] *
PotatoTrumpet throws fire in the direction of Acheloos 
L1691[14:32:55] *
Acheloos jumps out of the window 
L1692[14:32:57] <LizzyTrickster>
ANARCHY!
 
L1693[14:32:57] *
XDjackieXD hides in the corner :P 
L1694[14:33:12] *
PotatoTrumpet throws glass at XDjackieXD 
L1695[14:33:21] <PotatoTrumpet> ICH BIN
EIN MANN!
 
L1696[14:33:31] *
PotatoTrumpet runs around in a circle 
L1697[14:33:40] *
Acheloos lands infront of XDjackieXD 
L1698[14:33:46] *
cloakable uses all of PotatoTrumpet's emeralds to make tier II
tablets with tier II APUs installed 
L1699[14:34:05] *
Acheloos is hurt.... This attack was very effective! 
L1700[14:34:13] <PotatoTrumpet> BRB
printing sutffs
 
L1701[14:34:39]
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(~gamaxoc@c-75-70-114-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) (Client
Quit) 
L1702[14:34:46] <Acheloos> bis gleich!
(see ya)
 
L1703[14:35:03]
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(~gamaxoc@c-75-70-114-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 
L1704[14:35:16] <gamax92> test
 
L1705[14:35:24] <gamax92> big old long
line of test stuff big old long line of test stuff big old long
line of test stuff big old long line of test stuff big old long
line of test stuff big old long line of test stuff big old long
line of test stuff
 
L1706[14:35:25] <Acheloos> test?
 
L1707[14:35:30] <Acheloos> test!
 
L1708[14:35:31] <gamaxOC> yay
 
L1709[14:35:33] <Acheloos> this is
madness!
 
L1710[14:35:33] <EnderBot2> That
doesn't surprise me.
 
L1711[14:35:51] *
Skye sighs 
L1712[14:35:54] *
XDjackieXD doesn't surprise this neither 
L1713[14:36:07] <Skye> how can you expect
much else with 134 people here?
 
L1714[14:36:14] <XDjackieXD> ^^
 
L1715[14:36:17] <gamaxOC> I expect
everything
 
L1716[14:36:18] *
Acheloos is a pink fluffy unicorn dancing on rainbows. 
L1717[14:36:19] <gamaxOC> And more
 
L1718[14:36:25] <gamaxOC> PFUDOR
 
L1719[14:36:28] <gamaxOC> :D
 
L1720[14:36:31] <XDjackieXD> :D
 
L1721[14:37:00] <XDjackieXD> we need a
bot that converts posted image links to ascii art and posts it
here... :P
 
L1722[14:37:10] <gamax92> no .-.
 
L1723[14:37:15] <Acheloos> *._.
 
L1724[14:37:17] <gamax92> ds84182: please
tell jackie why that is a horrible idea.
 
L1725[14:37:31] <Acheloos> Because...
Because... Porn?
 
L1726[14:37:32] <ds84182> XDjackieXD: GOD
NO
 
L1727[14:37:39] <ds84182> First of all,
it floods the channel
 
L1728[14:37:40] <XDjackieXD> why
not?
 
L1729[14:37:45] <XDjackieXD> ok
 
L1730[14:37:47] <cloakable> Because
furries
 
L1731[14:37:51] <ds84182> cloakable:
nah
 
L1732[14:37:59] <cloakable> xD
 
L1733[14:38:01] <ds84182> more because
nobody would be able to conversate
 
L1734[14:38:18] <ds84182> it's akin
to a spam bot that only posts ascii art
 
L1736[14:38:19] <MichiBot> EnderBot2:
Monty Python - Spam | length 
3m 20s | Likes:
27659 Dislikes: 
672 Views: 
6627483 | by zumpzump
 
L1737[14:38:25] <gamax92> A) The results
look horrible B) flooding C) Forcing people to view an image D)
Porn
 
L1738[14:38:30] *
vifino LizzyTrickstersmooch 
L1739[14:38:45] *
LizzyTrickster vifinosmooch 
L1740[14:38:45] <ds84182> s/ D\)
Porn//
 
L1741[14:38:46] <Kibibyte>
<gamax92> A) The results look horrible B) flooding C) Forcing
people to view an image
 
L1742[14:39:09] <Acheloos> A B C, easy as
one, two, three
 
L1743[14:39:09] <Acheloos> Are simple as
do re mi
 
L1744[14:39:09] <Acheloos> A B C, one,
two, three, baby, you and me girl
 
L1745[14:39:09] <gamaxOC> well okay, i
guess any porn wouldn't be recognizable XD
 
L1746[14:39:23] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
L1747[14:41:07] *
Acheloos is dancing to the Jackson 5 *turn* *dance* 
L1748[14:41:34] <ds84182> So I made a
LPEG like parser in pure lua.
 
L1749[14:41:43] <ds84182> local vector3 =
le.group "vector3"
{"%[",le.number,",",le.number,",",le.number,"%]"}
 
L1750[14:41:51] <Acheloos> LPEG *hö* -
Sorry, an insider.
 
L1751[14:41:52] <ds84182> and then you
literally local index, parsed = le.parse(vector3,
"[1,2.3,-3]")
 
L1752[14:42:07] <Skye> what's
LPEG?
 
L1753[14:42:13] *
XDjackieXD understands acheloo's insider 
L1754[14:42:34] *
XDjackieXD Sangar probably will also understand it
(dqmhose) 
L1755[14:42:50] <vifino> Skye: a parser
tokeniser, i think.
 
L1756[14:44:48] <ds84182> Skye: basically
it's a parser thing implemented in C
 
L1757[14:44:48] <vifino> Skye: actually,
sorry, it's something with peg in lua
 
L1758[14:44:55] <ds84182> it's
annoying as hell
 
L1759[14:45:04] <Acheloos> XDjackieXD :
Meh.
 
L1760[14:45:12] <ds84182> it yells at you
if it thinks that your pattern could cause a loop
 
L1761[14:45:52] <ds84182> mine is
literally 200 lines of code that yield the same effect, and it
doesn't depend on a C library or lua versions.
 
L1762[14:46:03] <ds84182> as long as
it's 5.1 and up it works
 
L1763[14:48:35]
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(Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 
L1764[14:49:20] ***
Riking is now known as Riking|away 
L1765[14:55:05] <LizzyTrickster> ah fuck,
i didn't start this session in tmux
 
L1766[14:56:47]
⇦ Quits: LizzyTrickster (~lizzy@janus.theender.net) (Quit:
forgot to do shiz, yay) 
L1767[14:58:14] <ds84182> woot, le.group
"vectorN" {"%[", le.delim
{le.number,","} ,"%]"} parses
"[1,2.3,-3,3,5,1,0x21]"
 
L1768[14:58:36] <Sangar> Vexatos, latest
build should fix your issue (was unrelated)
 
L1769[14:58:43] <Sangar> and with that
i'm off again o/
 
L1770[14:58:53] <ds84182> petition to
make Sangar stay awake
 
L1771[14:58:58] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
 
L1772[15:02:21] <PotatoTrumpet> Every
time Sangar sleeps, a baby dies
 
L1773[15:02:29] <cloakable> petition to
make Sangar fix all open tickers on github
 
L1774[15:03:07] <PotatoTrumpet> dont get
ahead of ourselves, cloakable
 
L1775[15:03:11] <PotatoTrumpet> one small
step at a time
 
L1776[15:05:44] <ds84182> petition to
close all open toptickeks on github
 
L1777[15:06:05]
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L1778[15:06:06]
zsh sets mode: +o on LizzyTrickster 
L1779[15:06:17] <LizzyTrickster>
wait
 
L1780[15:06:19] <LizzyTrickster>
shit
 
L1781[15:06:26]
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Quit) 
L1782[15:06:51] <cloakable> Yes,
sometimes that is my reaction to this channel ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
L1783[15:06:56] <XDjackieXD> :P
 
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L1785[15:07:27]
zsh sets mode: +o on LizzyTrickster 
L1786[15:07:36] <LizzyTrickster> there,
it's now in a tmux session
 
L1787[15:07:41] <XDjackieXD> ^^
 
L1788[15:07:41] *
DeanIsaKitty nails LizzyTrickster to the ground so she doesn't
leave again 
L1789[15:07:57] <LizzyTrickster>
don't worry, i wont
 
L1790[15:08:05] <XDjackieXD> I just
wanted to ask if you forgot tmux again :P
 
L1791[15:08:15] <LizzyTrickster> nope,
got it this time
 
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(~Poireau@2a01:e35:2f6a:7060:e2ca:94ff:fe1f:76e0) (Quit: WeeChat
1.2) 
L1793[15:13:46] <Altenius> Does the chunk
loader upgrade work in computers?
 
L1794[15:14:24] <gamaxOC> OC is incapable
of showing the lenny f ace
 
L1795[15:14:25] <PotatoTrumpet> It works
with yo mom
 
L1796[15:14:26]
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(~gamaxoc@c-75-70-114-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) (Quit:
gamaxOC) 
L1797[15:14:30] <PotatoTrumpet>
WHAT
 
L1798[15:14:38] <PotatoTrumpet> Sangar,
we have a massive issue
 
L1799[15:14:47] <PotatoTrumpet> OC
can't show the lenny face
 
L1800[15:16:35] <gamax92> ( ͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡ °)
is what OC shows
 
L1801[15:17:47] *
vifino boops LizzyTrickster 
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L1803[15:18:49] <cloakable> gamax92: ( ͡
° ͜ ʖ ͡ °)? Not ( ͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡ °)?
 
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L1805[15:19:31]
zsh sets mode: +o on Anonymous 
L1806[15:19:35] <Anonymous> Ah
 
L1807[15:19:36] <Anonymous> Right
 
L1808[15:19:39]
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(Vim@2001:470:1f0f:dec:c5cb:6933:dd6c:9a35) (Quit:
Leaving) 
L1809[15:19:52] *
Lizzy slaps MichiBot 
L1810[15:19:53] *
EnderBot2 laughs 
L1811[15:19:56] *
Lizzy slaps Mimiru 
L1812[15:19:56] *
EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing 
L1813[15:20:02] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
 
L1814[15:22:11] *
vifino boops Lizzy again 
L1815[15:22:17] *
Lizzy booped 
L1816[15:22:25] <vifino> :3
 
L1817[15:22:47] <vifino> What are you
doing at the moment? .o?
 
L1818[15:22:53] <vifino> *:o?
 
L1819[15:23:08] <LizzyTrickster> getting
lots of scripts for irssi cause why not
 
L1820[15:23:46] <vifino> lol
 
L1821[15:29:13] ***
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L1824[15:35:13] <CompanionCube> Lizzy,
lol
 
L1825[15:35:21] <CompanionCube> dad just
lost his shit due to blown bw cap
 
L1826[15:35:58] <Lizzy> ha
 
L1827[15:36:08] <CompanionCube> He had it
coming.
 
L1828[15:36:16] <CompanionCube> It was
never going to work/
 
L1829[15:36:31] <LizzyTrickster>
ʘ‿ʘ
 
L1830[15:37:10] <LizzyTrickster> also
yay, links2 downloaded all these perl files with the extension of
.perl and not .pl
 
L1832[15:39:58] <LizzyTrickster> looks
good
 
L1833[15:39:59] <vifino> Getting a 400€
mobo + 100€ case for 250€ = Win.
 
L1834[15:40:57] <vifino> That's a
solid saving right there.
 
L1835[15:42:31] <LizzyTrickster>
test
 
L1836[15:42:37] <Lizzy> meep
 
L1837[15:42:45] <LizzyTrickster> someone
else say something
 
L1838[15:43:23] *
LizzyTrickster slaps Lizzy 
L1839[15:43:24] *
EnderBot2 wonders why he deserved a slap 
L1840[15:43:28] <LizzyTrickster> er
 
L1841[15:43:35] <LizzyTrickster> yay for
coding fail? :P
 
L1842[15:43:57] <cloakable> xD
 
L1843[15:44:01] <LizzyTrickster>
alot
 
L1845[15:44:08] <LizzyTrickster>
hmm
 
L1846[15:44:16] <LizzyTrickster> k, this
nick colour thing works somewhat
 
L1847[15:44:24] <LizzyTrickster> ❤
 
L1848[15:44:37] <Altenius> .stats
 
L1851[15:45:04] <Lizzy> lets see if the
tmux away works
 
L1852[15:45:23] <Lizzy> yay
 
L1853[15:46:02] ***
Sleepdra is now known as Sandra 
L1855[15:47:03] <gamax92> even more
nope.
 
L1856[15:47:09] <vifino> meep
 
L1857[15:49:15] <SuPeRMiNoR2> other then
forced updates, i dont see what is so bad about the other
things
 
L1858[15:49:56] <vifino> I'mma
reboot into winderps and play some SR4.
 
L1859[15:49:58] <vifino> \o
 
L1860[15:50:02] *
vifino Lizzysmooch 
L1861[15:50:31] <gamax92> SuPeRMiNoR2:
well specifically because that.
 
L1862[15:50:45] *
Lizzy vifismooch 
L1863[15:50:51] <rashy> hmm. I wonder if
8.1 Pro will upgrade to W10 Pro
 
L1864[15:50:59] <gamax92> If for some
reason I have to turn off a computer now or reboot now I don't
want to be waiting hours for updates to install and then fail
 
L1865[15:51:58] <gamax92> Or if I want to
spend my bandwidth on something other than downloading
updates
 
L1866[15:52:33] <SuPeRMiNoR2> kill the
windows update service or something
 
L1867[15:52:47] <Altenius> That's
what I do
 
L1868[15:53:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> frankly
unless it is 100% terrible i will update
 
L1869[15:53:18] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i dont like
using out of date software
 
L1870[15:53:55] <rashy> reserved it for
now. probably won't update until sometime next year before the
free year expires
 
L1871[15:54:05]
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zsh sets mode: +o on Lizzy 
L1874[15:56:20] ***
Skye is now known as Skye|ZZZ 
L1875[15:58:31] ***
LizzyTrickster is now known as SleepyLizzy 
L1876[15:59:01] ***
SleepyLizzy is now known as LizzyTrickster 
L1877[15:59:21] <LizzyTrickster> cool,
that works i think
 
L1878[15:59:32] <LizzyTrickster> anyway,
sleepy time
 
L1879[15:59:43] <rashy> o/
 
L1880[15:59:44] <LizzyTrickster> which
should have been an hour ago ffs
 
L1881[15:59:59] *
LizzyTrickster curls up on vifino 
L1882[16:00:01] ***
LizzyTrickster is now known as SleepyLizzy 
L1883[16:04:22] ***
SleepyLizzy is now known as LizzyTrickster 
L1884[16:04:32] <LizzyTrickster> okay, pc
is an hour fast
 
L1885[16:04:41] <LizzyTrickster> so
i'm not going as crazy as i thought
 
L1886[16:05:14] <LizzyTrickster> still,
bedtime
 
L1887[16:05:31] ***
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L1888[16:06:07]
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L1889[16:06:10]
Lizzy sets mode: -o on Lizzy 
L1890[16:06:39] ***
Cruor is now known as Cruor|Away 
L1891[16:06:50] <gamax92> Mimiru:
SleepIrcing, the condition of getting on your computer and banning
everyone, whilst asleep
 
L1892[16:06:59] <gamax92> Remember ops,
deop yourself when you go to sleep
 
L1893[16:07:03] <Mimiru> lmao
 
L1894[16:07:22] <Stary|web> lol
 
L1895[16:07:27] <Mimiru> Oh I freaked out
for a second... load spiked on Eos..
 
L1896[16:07:33] <Mimiru> turns out I
kickedo ff a huge update queue..
 
L1897[16:07:35] <Mimiru> so yeah
 
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L1899[16:08:26] <Mimiru> gamax92, do you
use any .htaccess on your site on eos?
 
L1900[16:08:32] <gamax92> i dunno
 
L1901[16:08:50] <gamax92> I think you had
to do something with that to fix the symlinks
 
L1902[16:09:14] <Mimiru> Nah, that was a
setting in the vhost config
 
L1903[16:09:33] <BBoldt> hey, so
I've finally made a basic computer and installed the OS but
I'm not sure what steps to take next
 
L1904[16:09:38] <gamax92> then not that
I'm aware
 
L1905[16:09:39] <Mimiru> I'm looking
at possibly switching back to nginx
 
L1906[16:09:42] <BBoldt> like, give me
some suggestions of what to use it for
 
L1907[16:09:56] <gamax92> BBoldt: get
oppm floppy, run "oppm install oppm"
 
L1908[16:10:06] <BBoldt> what would that
do?
 
L1909[16:10:08] <gamax92> You now have
access to all the software hosted in OpenPrograms
 
L1910[16:10:10] <XDjackieXD> Mimiru nginx
is a lot faster than apache...
 
L1911[16:10:12] <BBoldt> oh
 
L1912[16:10:19] <BBoldt> okay that would
probably help
 
L1913[16:10:41] <Mimiru> XDjackieXD, I
know, but hosting other people's stuff having .htaccess is
very handy as I don't have to do anything for rewrites and
stuff.
 
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seconds) 
L1915[16:11:09] <XDjackieXD> Mimiru you
can also use nginx as cache for static stuff infront of
apache
 
L1916[16:11:11] <Mimiru> my gitlab setup
is running on nginx behind an apache reverse proxy
 
L1917[16:11:51] <Mimiru> Eh, more setup
then I'm really in the mood for
 
L1918[16:11:59] <XDjackieXD> ^^
 
L1919[16:12:29] <Mimiru> I've
thought about just including nginx config files from users home
directories so they can modify their own vhost configs, and kicking
off a reload every 15 minutes or whatever.
 
L1920[16:13:06] <Lizzy> SYSTEM: GOING
DOWN FOR SLEEP NOW
 
L1921[16:13:10] <Mimiru> Not sure on the
security of that however... and Apache is currently setup to run AS
the user who's site is being accessed.
 
L1922[16:13:24] <Mimiru> meaning the
process that reads gamax92's files runs as gamax92 for
security
 
L1923[16:13:29] <Mimiru> AFAIK I
can't do that with nginx.
 
L1924[16:13:36] <XDjackieXD> mimiru I
don't think that including user provided configs is very
secure...
 
L1925[16:14:10] <Mimiru> Well, I trust
gamax92 ds84182 and dangranos pretty well... I doubt they'd do
anything to screw anything up
 
L1926[16:14:24] <gamax92> :o
 
L1927[16:14:30] <XDjackieXD> this should
not be a problem then
 
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L1929[16:14:48] <Mimiru> I wouldn't
have gave them shell access if I didn't heh
 
L1930[16:14:59] <XDjackieXD> ^^
 
L1931[16:15:34] <Lizzy> Huh, IRC is still
open on phone
 
L1932[16:15:47] <Mimiru> hmmmm high RAM
usage today
 
L1933[16:15:50] <BBoldt> does the
internet card need a T2 case?
 
L1934[16:16:40] <rashy> think it requires
a T2 card slot, which I think exists on a T1 case -shrug-
 
L1935[16:16:52] <rashy> ~w internet
card
 
L1937[16:17:09] <Lizzy> In other news
Janus seems good so far, still need to set more up on there
though
 
L1938[16:17:27] <Mimiru> Lizzy, which
DC?
 
L1939[16:17:33] <Lizzy> Paris
 
L1940[16:17:33] <rashy> guess not. need a
T2 case
 
L1941[16:17:38] <Mimiru> Oooh
 
L1942[16:17:40] <Mimiru> nice
 
L1943[16:17:55] <BBoldt> ah I see now,
the case has little markings
 
L1944[16:17:57] <XDjackieXD> I'm off
for today. o/ see ya all tomorrow!
 
L1945[16:17:59] <rashy> yup
 
L1946[16:18:13] <Mimiru> o/
XDjackieXD
 
L1947[16:18:16] <rashy> you can hover
over the slot, and it'll tell you which cards can go into it
(if you have NEI)
 
L1948[16:18:46] <Lizzy> Once I'm
happy that it's going to be good (so far it looks promising),
heyo and Anquietas will probably merge into it
 
L1949[16:18:46] <rashy> o/ ciao
 
L1950[16:19:45] <Mimiru> 2gb cache, 10gb
used..
 
L1951[16:19:45] <Lizzy> I'm not sure
if I'll run both IRCds on there
 
L1952[16:19:58] ***
Riking is now known as Riking|away 
L1953[16:20:29] <Mimiru> Gotta love
Jenkins sitting there doing nothing sucking down the RAM
 
L1954[16:20:59] <Lizzy> Mimiru, how many
servers does pcl/darknet have in London?
 
L1955[16:21:11] <Lizzy> Mimiru, yep.
It's the best
 
L1957[16:21:16] ***
mr208 is now known as mallrat208 
L1958[16:21:19] <Mimiru> Unless it's
broken
 
L1959[16:21:24] <Lizzy> On mobile
 
L1960[16:21:32] <Mimiru> Ahh, map reports
5
 
L1961[16:22:09] <Lizzy> K, 2 of those are
my DO servers
 
L1962[16:22:11] <Mimiru> inc Pegasus, and
Nano, which are close enough :P
 
L1963[16:23:22] <Lizzy> Nano is actually
in London, pegasus is in Essex
 
L1964[16:23:43] <vifino> meep
 
L1965[16:23:54] *
vifino Lizzysmooch 
L1966[16:23:58] <vifino> Why are you not
opped? D:
 
L1967[16:24:14] <Lizzy> Also if your
wondering why I'm not sleeping, I'm doing a No. 2
 
L1968[16:24:23] <vifino> o.O
 
L1969[16:24:26] <Mimiru> Thanks.
 
L1970[16:24:29] <Lizzy> Because I
don't wanna be
 
L1971[16:24:42] *
Lizzy vifismooch 
L1972[16:25:00] <Lizzy> "(@Mimiru)
Thanks." your welcome
 
L1973[16:25:05] *
vifino cuddles Lizzy <3 
L1974[16:25:22] *
Lizzy is still on the toilet... 
L1975[16:25:30] *
PotatoTrumpet comes out of Lizzy 
L1976[16:25:33] <vifino> o.o
 
L1977[16:25:38] <Lizzy> Oh dear
 
L1978[16:25:42] <PotatoTrumpet>
HALP
 
L1979[16:25:44] <Mimiru> I
 
L1980[16:25:45] <Mimiru> Er
 
L1981[16:25:49] <Mimiru> uh
 
L1982[16:25:52] <Lizzy> When did this
happen?
 
L1983[16:25:57] <PotatoTrumpet> HELP
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
L1984[16:26:01] *
PotatoTrumpet coughs 
L1985[16:26:03] *
vifino flushes PotatoTrumpet 
L1986[16:26:07] <vifino> Problem
solved.
 
L1987[16:26:07] <Stary|web> rofl
 
L1988[16:26:11] <PotatoTrumpet>
NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
L1990[16:26:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> wtf
 
L1991[16:26:49] <vifino> My uncle used to
say "Problem? Flush it down the toilet like my dad my
dreams."
 
L1992[16:27:00] <vifino> He didn't
like his dad much..
 
L1993[16:27:13] <SuPeRMiNoR2> wait,
Mimiru? are you caitlyn?
 
L1994[16:27:21] <Mimiru> Maybe?
 
L1995[16:27:32] <vifino> SuPeRMiNoR2:
yesh
 
L1996[16:27:36] <Mimiru> Just don't
/whois me... :P
 
L1997[16:27:41] <rashy> too late
 
L1998[16:27:47] <vifino> she b
Katie.
 
L1999[16:28:03] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I was going
to say, when did get get more ops
 
L2000[16:28:09] <SuPeRMiNoR2> when did
we*
 
L2001[16:28:15] <Mimiru> Last tuesday,
you missed the meeting.
 
L2002[16:28:29] <SuPeRMiNoR2> must have
been busy playing gta
 
L2003[16:28:46] <Mimiru> SOunds about
right
 
L2004[16:28:54] <Lizzy> Mimiru, no. It
was Thursday
 
L2005[16:28:58] <Mimiru> Ah right.
 
L2006[16:29:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> was it a
batman tuesday?
 
L2007[16:29:04] <SuPeRMiNoR2> oh
nvm
 
L2008[16:29:04] <Lizzy> I think
 
L2009[16:30:14] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Lizzy: are
you having a shitty time?
 
L2010[16:30:23] <rashy> >.>
 
L2011[16:30:27] <Lizzy> I was
 
L2012[16:30:43] <Mimiru> <_<
 
L2013[16:30:51] <SuPeRMiNoR2>
<_>
 
L2014[16:30:55] <vifino> >_<
 
L2015[16:31:05] <Lizzy> ^_^
 
L2016[16:31:11] <rashy> v_v
 
L2017[16:31:11] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
 
L2018[16:31:27] <vifino> x_x
 
L2019[16:32:09] <PotatoTrumpet> ß_ß
 
L2020[16:32:09] ***
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L2021[16:32:19] <vifino> ø_ø
 
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L2023[16:33:15] <Mimiru> FAK..
right
 
L2024[16:33:21] <Mimiru> the Pandora
extension I use is for FF...
 
L2025[16:33:25] *
Mimiru cries a little 
L2026[16:33:28] <rashy> ;(
 
L2027[16:33:38] *
rashy hands over box of tissues 
L2028[16:33:44] *
Mimiru sighs and loads up FF 
L2029[16:34:04] <Mimiru> \o/ no flash in
FF
 
L2030[16:34:17] <Mimiru> Why doesn't
Pandora use HTML5?
 
L2031[16:34:27] <rashy> why indeed
 
L2032[16:35:40] *
vifino boops Lizzy 
L2033[16:36:05] <Lizzy> K, now that I
have actually put my duvet cover on my duvet I will sleep
 
L2034[16:36:13] *
Lizzy booped 
L2035[16:36:14] <rashy> o/ Lizzy
 
L2036[16:36:22] <Lizzy> \o
 
L2037[16:36:25] <vifino> :/
 
L2038[16:36:37] *
vifino carries Lizzy to her bed and flops on it with
her 
L2039[16:36:51] <Lizzy> :3
 
L2040[16:36:55] <vifino> ( Carried a
whole meter! :O )
 
L2041[16:37:01] <vifino> :P
 
L2042[16:37:03] <vifino> :3
 
L2043[16:38:02] *
vifino cuddles Lizzy and falls asleep with her <3 
L2044[16:38:06] <Lizzy> I wonder how many
IPv6 names namecheap will allow
 
L2045[16:38:18] <Mimiru>
260000000000000000
 
L2046[16:38:22] <Mimiru> :P
 
L2047[16:38:23] <vifino> 9001
 
L2048[16:38:40] *
Lizzy falls asleep muttering IPv6 stuff 
L2049[16:39:06] *
vifino falls asleep muttering about Lizzy's
cuteness 
L2050[16:39:46] <rashy> fun fact, the
over 9000 meme is based on a mis-translation. the actual meme
should be over 8000.
 
L2051[16:41:30] <vifino> Fun fact, 9000
> 8000
 
L2052[16:42:14] <rashy> missing the
point
 
L2053[16:42:48] <vifino> Fun fact, 9000.0
> 8000.0
 
L2054[16:42:56] <vifino> Fixed :D
 
L2055[16:43:58] <gamax92> rashy:
it's okay
 
L2056[16:44:00] <gamax92> I
understood
 
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L2058[16:52:17] *
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L2059[16:53:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> beep beep
beeep beeeeeeep beeeeeeeeeep
 
L2060[16:53:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> that is my
rocket launcher locking on to you, PotatoTrumpet
 
L2061[16:54:11] <PotatoTrumpet>
Can't lock on to me
 
L2062[16:54:19] <PotatoTrumpet> I am
stuck in the plumbing in SleepyLizzy's house
 
L2063[16:56:04] <Mimiru> \o/ found a
version that works in GreaseMonkey and guess what I have installed
on Chrome
 
L2064[16:56:16] <gamax92> Mimiru:
tampermonkey
 
L2065[16:56:21] <Mimiru> Damn
right.
 
L2066[16:56:39] <gamax92> If you have
opera, then there is ViolentMonkey
 
L2067[16:56:45] <gamax92> Firefox also
has Scriptish and Greasemonkey
 
L2068[16:56:47] <Mimiru> Good to
know
 
L2069[16:56:59] <Mimiru> Yeah I have
Greasemonkey on FF
 
L2070[16:59:45] <vifino> SuPeRMiNoR2:
Wanna play sr4? :P
 
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L2074[17:02:16] <SuPeRMiNoR2> vifino:
sure, in like 5 mins
 
L2075[17:02:20] <vifino> :D
 
L2076[17:02:22] <vifino> Awesome.
 
L2077[17:03:00] *
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L2078[17:03:35] *
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L2079[17:04:08] <CompanionCube> I was
already spawned
 
L2080[17:05:09] *
vifino then only hugs CompanionCube 
L2081[17:06:59] <CompanionCube> The
universe's constructor had this appended to it:
 
L2082[17:08:00] <CompanionCube>
delay_to(1998) { ApertureScience.spawn(new AS.Cube(type:
companion)) }
 
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L2095[17:31:22] <Inari> meh, vex be gone
agian
 
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L2110[18:23:34] <MajGenRelativity|Tired>
Today, I must complete the final requirement for finalizing
ForceLasers 0.1 :)
 
L2111[18:23:39] <MajGenRelativity|Tired>
Making a gui
 
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L2114[18:23:50] <rashy> funstuff
 
L2115[18:24:14] <MGR|Tired> oh yes
 
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L2120[18:34:27] <rashy> I should work on
my mod idea too ... kinda got sidetracked xD
 
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L2123[18:39:05] <MGR|Tired> welp
 
L2124[18:39:10] <MGR|Tired> my GUI looks
really weird
 
L2125[18:39:15] <MGR|Tired> it overlaps
my inventory :(
 
L2126[18:46:02] <Inari> lol
 
L2127[18:47:14] <gamax92> Inari:
fox
 
L2128[18:47:29] <Inari> gamax92:
wolf?
 
L2129[18:47:46] <gamax92> :D
 
L2130[18:47:58] <MGR|Tired> WAT
 
L2131[18:48:01] <MGR|Tired> oops
 
L2132[18:48:05] <MGR|Tired> caps
lock
 
L2134[18:48:50] <gamax92> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
 
L2135[18:49:52] *
MGR|Tired is slightly depressed but, will get over it once he
sleeps :) 
L2136[18:50:31] *
MGR|Tired is updating GitHub to prepare for version
0.2 
L2137[18:53:07] <PotatoTrumpet>
Howdy
 
L2138[18:53:18] <MGR|Tired> hi
Potato!
 
L2139[18:53:21] <PotatoTrumpet>
B-B-Bennie and the jetsssssssssssss
 
L2140[18:53:32] <MGR|Tired> ?
 
L2141[18:53:50] <PotatoTrumpet> It's
a song
 
L2142[18:53:54] <PotatoTrumpet> Bennie
and the Jets
 
L2143[18:54:00] <PotatoTrumpet> by Elton
John
 
L2144[18:54:16] <MGR|Tired> ah
 
L2146[18:58:04] <rashy> it's a
decepticon! kill it!
 
L2147[18:58:21] <Mimiru> noooooo!
 
L2148[18:58:37] <rashy> pretty cool
though
 
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L2152[19:00:48] <Inari> rashy: apparenlty
they need flash for a image gallery ;-;
 
L2153[19:00:55] <MGR|Tired> 0.1 is
finished
 
L2154[19:00:56] <rashy> L
 
L2156[19:03:56] <MGR|Tired> I'm
going to leave for the night
 
L2157[19:04:04] <rashy> seeya
 
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L2159[19:04:10] <MGR|Tired> Have a
pleasant evening, and have ForceLasers :P
 
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L2164[19:15:31] <Lizzy> I can't
sleep
 
L2165[19:16:00] <Lizzy> Also doesn't
help that I read a story from /r/nosleep
 
L2166[19:17:58] <rashy> silly
 
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L2172[20:05:24] <Kodos|Zzz> Bah, looks
like ExU is being temp removed from my pack
 
L2173[20:05:34] <Kodos|Zzz> Also what
time is it? Someone bring me some tea
 
L2174[20:08:06] *
SuPeRMiNoR2 brings Kodos|Zzz some tea 
L2175[20:08:13] <SuPeRMiNoR2> lipton is
good, right?
 
L2176[20:09:28] <Kodos|Zzz> Ew no
 
L2177[20:09:32] <Kodos|Zzz> Corn Syrup is
bad
 
L2178[20:09:47] <Kodos|Zzz> Tradewinds,
Gold Peak, or the PureBrews are acceptable
 
L2179[20:11:46] *
SuPeRMiNoR2 shoves sryup down Kodos|Zzz's throat 
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L2183[20:37:31] <PotatoTrumpet>
SuPeRMiNoR2, AHHHHHHHHH
 
L2184[20:37:34] <PotatoTrumpet> ARE YOU
ALIVE
 
L2185[20:37:39] <PotatoTrumpet>
SuPeRMiNoR2, SPEAK TO ME
 
L2186[20:38:57] <PotatoTrumpet>
SUPERMINOR
 
L2187[20:39:04] <PotatoTrumpet> hmm
 
L2188[20:39:08] <PotatoTrumpet> his
internet must have died
 
L2189[20:39:17] <PotatoTrumpet> His last
words were" zzz zzzz zzzzz zzzz"\
 
L2190[20:40:05] <gamax92> His last words
were muffled cries for help
 
L2191[20:40:19] <PotatoTrumpet> :(
 
L2192[20:40:24] <PotatoTrumpet> RIP
GAMAX
 
L2193[20:40:25] <PotatoTrumpet> err
 
L2194[20:40:27] <PotatoTrumpet>
SuPeRMiNoR2,
 
L2195[20:43:12] <PotatoTrumpet> So
 
L2196[20:43:14] <PotatoTrumpet> His
windows crashed
 
L2197[20:43:17] <PotatoTrumpet>
derpdows
 
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L2201[20:59:04] <SuPeRMiNoR2>
PotatoTrumpet: as it froze it took out my audio too
 
L2202[20:59:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> lol
 
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L2209[21:52:42] <gamax92> (/;~;)/
don't leave
 
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L2218[22:50:58] <Mimiru> inetnum:
43.255.188.0 - 43.255.188.255
 
L2219[22:50:58] <Mimiru> netname:
sexbaby
 
L2220[22:50:58] <Mimiru> descr: sex
insex
 
L2221[22:50:58] <Mimiru> country:
HK
 
L2222[22:51:04] <Mimiru> lol so many
failed login attempts
 
L2223[22:52:31] <dangranos> XD
 
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L2225[23:15:00] <PotatoTrumpet> Guten
Morgen my Daiyousei
 
L2226[23:15:10] <Daiyousei> aayy!
 
L2227[23:15:14] <Daiyousei> ayy!*
 
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