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L9[02:16:15] <Vexatos> Hello

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L22[03:13:03] <Sandra> Dear #oc, I require a name for my female character in a visual novel. She is going to be a wizard. Go crazy.

L23[03:14:02] <Temia> Thalissa

L24[03:14:11] <Sandra> First & Last name.

L25[03:14:41] <Temia> ...yeah I got nothing.

L26[03:14:48] * Temia curls up, zzzmoo.

L27[03:14:52] <Sandra> :P

L28[03:15:13] <Temia> I'm tired, gimme a break Dx

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L30[03:38:24] <nxsupert_> o/

L31[03:47:56] <nxsupert_> Sandra: http://www.behindthename.com/random/

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L42[05:28:27] <Kodos> Sandra, Thalissa Malkovian

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L55[06:55:12] <Sangar> o/

L56[07:01:54] <Vexatos> \o

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L71[07:44:26] <Izaya> .rainbow test

L72[07:44:26] <^v> Izaya, test

L73[07:44:37] <Izaya> .rainbow Coloured text indeed

L74[07:44:37] <^v> Izaya, Coloured text indeed

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L81[08:31:48] <l33tmachine> Has anyone been able to run OC on the curse voice client? I am building a modpack and getting an error I am unfamiliar with

L82[08:32:09] <Lizzy> curse is evil

L83[08:32:17] <nxsupert_> ^^

L84[08:32:25] <Lizzy> also the error might be helpful

L85[08:32:41] <nxsupert_> Pastebin the error and share it with us.

L86[08:32:56] <l33tmachine> Ok, pulling it up now

L87[08:33:56] <l33tmachine> http://pastebin.com/dncT9x48

L88[08:34:20] <nxsupert_> A forge dependency has not be downloaded.

L89[08:34:51] <l33tmachine> Ok

L90[08:36:32] <l33tmachine> This error only happens with OC, so what dependency would I be missing?

L91[08:36:50] <nxsupert_> Really?

L92[08:38:41] <l33tmachine> Am I just blind? I thought that OC only had dependecy on forge, and I've got 10.13.3.1403 going

L93[08:38:45] <Katie> We had someone in here with the same exact error.. IIRC reinstalling forge worked with them

L94[08:39:01] <l33tmachine> ok. I'll give that a shot

L95[08:39:06] <Katie> The dependency IS on forge, the issue is that forge has dependencies too

L96[08:39:11] <Katie> And sometimes those fail.

L97[08:39:25] <Katie> Not all mods use the typesafe config

L98[08:39:42] <l33tmachine> ok

L99[08:39:49] <nxsupert_> With some quick googling. It looks like for now. You have to use the normal forge installer.

L100[08:41:13] <l33tmachine> Ok, thanks for your help.

L101[08:41:40] <nxsupert_> Curse Voice hasn't updated to use the new system.

L102[08:41:48] <Lizzy> tl;dr: burn curse client at earliest convenience

L103[08:42:18] <l33tmachine> haha will do. Was just giving it a try to see how it worked compaired to something like multimc. Guess it fails for now

L104[08:42:35] <nxsupert_> You know. I did start to work on a package manager for Minecraft Mods.

L105[08:42:54] <nxsupert_> Maybe I should finish it one day.

L106[08:44:56] <l33tmachine> Thanks again

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L112[09:48:52] <Remote_Host> .l 84.9375/2

L113[09:48:52] <^v> Remote_Host, 42.46875

L114[09:49:07] <Remote_Host> .l 84.9375/4

L115[09:49:08] <^v> Remote_Host, 21.234375

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L123[10:50:56] * Skye checks twitter

L124[10:50:59] <Skye> uhh...

L125[10:51:39] <Skye> ComputerCraft might get graphics (appears to be tiles) soon...

L126[10:51:53] *** g is now known as gAway2002

L127[10:52:07] <Negi> Uh ?

L128[10:52:55] <Skye> https://twitter.com/DanTwoHundred/status/599582611795742720/photo/1

L129[10:55:41] <Negi> Holy bowlsters

L130[10:56:05] <Skye> yeah...

L131[10:57:02] <Skye> this might be related: https://twitter.com/DanTwoHundred/status/597326619762630656

L132[10:59:31] <Negi> It might, just might, be raw pixel drawing.

L133[10:59:39] <Negi> Just sayin.

L134[10:59:47] <Izaya> so I got bored and tweaked amie's default colours to be solaris dark

L135[11:00:29] <Negi> But wouldn't that be the thing that everyone was literally asking for since the old times, Skye?

L136[11:00:39] <Negi> Izaya: Solaris Dark is a great color scheme.

L137[11:00:51] <Skye> hmm

L138[11:01:01] <Izaya> It is, I use it in my terminal.

L139[11:01:44] <Remote_Host> fucker stole my job

L140[11:02:08] <Katie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=26&v=mBz--oWMvWU

L141[11:02:15] <Katie> err

L142[11:02:20] <Katie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBz--oWMvWU

L143[11:02:21] <MichiBot> Katie: Mr and Mrs Sith | length 3m 32s | Likes: 4252 Dislikes: 88 Views: 339184 | by DefconUnlimitedStunt

L144[11:02:29] <Katie> Hmm, I need to work in MichiBot's regex..

L145[11:02:34] <Katie> s/in/on

L146[11:02:34] <MichiBot> <Katie> Hmm, I need to work on MichiBot's regex..

L147[11:02:52] <Remote_Host> >https://twitter.com/DanTwoHundred/status/597326619762630656

L148[11:03:05] <Remote_Host> Ok, so he used that thing that gamax92 made for CCLights2.

L149[11:03:13] <Remote_Host> or was it regular cclights

L150[11:03:15] <Remote_Host> whatever

L151[11:03:21] <gamax92> i heart my name

L152[11:03:49] <Remote_Host> gamax92: click link, get fukn rekt

L153[11:04:14] <gamax92> wat

L154[11:04:26] <Remote_Host> exact

L155[11:05:09] <gamax92> ooh, I want that.

L156[11:05:22] <Remote_Host> Sangar: should I start working on better GPU stuff for OC?

L157[11:05:33] <Remote_Host> CC is grinding my gears

L158[11:05:53] <gamax92> nothing I've made has looked like that

L159[11:06:04] <Skye> Remote_Host, can I suggest ideas? ^^;

L160[11:06:08] <gamax92> the only wireframe cube I made moves in more axes than that

L161[11:06:21] <Remote_Host> gamax92: hmm, then he made his own

L162[11:06:27] * Remote_Host is going to set something on fire

L163[11:06:36] <Remote_Host> Skye: sure, I guess

L164[11:06:40] <Skye> so...

L165[11:06:48] <Skye> I suggest making it use two layers

L166[11:06:56] <gamax92> But just imagine a semi decent graphics resolution, without the lag that is OpenComputers

L167[11:06:57] <Skye> kinda like the EPSON HX-20

L168[11:07:04] <Skye> so...

L169[11:07:17] <Skye> the text layer is the current system

L170[11:07:30] <Skye> with the graphics layer being on top.

L171[11:07:33] <Remote_Host> gamax92: I would probably fuck around with OC's implementation of Component calls and accelerate them a bit

L172[11:07:42] <Skye> uh

L173[11:07:43] <Remote_Host> even direct calls are kinda slow nowadays

L174[11:07:44] <gamax92> hahahahahaha mess with scala

L175[11:08:06] <Skye> Well...

L176[11:08:16] <Skye> Send instructions?

L177[11:08:17] <Skye> uhh

L178[11:08:18] <Skye> so...

L179[11:08:20] <Skye> hmm...

L180[11:08:38] <Skye> drawLine(x1, y1, x2, y2)

L181[11:08:39] <Negi> The JVM is slow.

L182[11:08:56] <Skye> the "drawLine" command would be sent to the client

L183[11:09:05] <gamax92> Negi: shut the fuck up that is not the problem here

L184[11:09:13] <Negi> I know gamax92.

L185[11:09:57] <Vexatos> I want to see an OpenComputers OS with a desktop written in interpreted Selene and see how long it takes to do anything

L186[11:10:27] <Skye> Vexatos, did you see what I linked?

L187[11:10:40] <Skye> (not related to what you just said)

L188[11:11:09] <Sangar> Remote_Host, sure, might want to write down your ideas in the "better graphics"-collection-issue (779)

L189[11:11:23] <Remote_Host> ok

L190[11:12:57] <Remote_Host> first, lemme restart entire computer

L191[11:13:04] <Remote_Host> I have too many things open

L192[11:13:26] <Izaya> no such thing

L193[11:13:40] * Izaya has like 20 programs open, and like 100 tabs in Firefox

L194[11:13:54] <Vexatos> Skye: I did weeks ago

L195[11:14:33] <Vexatos> My Computer starts lagging once I have more than 5 tabs open+

L196[11:15:33] <Skye> Should we start panicking? :p

L197[11:15:54] <Remote_Host> I had both Google chrome and Firefox open

L198[11:16:00] * Negi starts to out-ram his computer whenever there are more than 6 programs running, yay gnome-shell.

L199[11:16:11] <Remote_Host> And about ten terminals, four tabs each

L200[11:16:36] <Remote_Host> Had two Arduino windows open

L201[11:17:07] <Remote_Host> I think i shouldn't be allowed to use computers

L202[11:17:43] <Vexatos> Remote_Host, there is a person at my mother's office that, whenever you let him sit in front of a computer for more than 2 minutes, managed to break it

L203[11:18:01] <Vexatos> crash it, BSOD it, make MS Excel crash by typing in values

L204[11:18:10] <Vexatos> that's what I call "not allowed to use computers"

L205[11:18:20] <Izaya> MS excel is known to crash computers

L206[11:18:26] <Remote_Host> Give him a command prompt that only has one command

L207[11:18:43] <Vexatos> Remote_Host, "shutdown"

L208[11:18:48] <Izaya> Remote_Host, help?

L209[11:18:49] <Remote_Host> He'll find a way

L210[11:18:57] <Izaya> help:

L211[11:19:01] <Remote_Host> Help is good

L212[11:19:03] <Izaya> available commands: help

L213[11:19:12] <Vexatos> "help I am so bored"

L214[11:19:30] <Remote_Host> Segmentation fault

L215[11:19:35] <Izaya> help I have a headache because my music was too loud

L216[11:19:43] <Izaya> I did the best thing today

L217[11:19:52] <Remote_Host> Segmentation fault

L218[11:19:55] <Izaya> I added this line to my bashrc: alias fucking='sudo'

L219[11:20:11] <Izaya> fucking pacman -Syu

L220[11:20:30] <Remote_Host> pip install thefuck

L221[11:20:56] <Remote_Host> Then just type "fuck" to correct the last command

L222[11:21:21] <Izaya> rm -rf /

L223[11:21:34] <Izaya> would it correct it to rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

L224[11:21:35] <Izaya> ?

L225[11:21:54] <Remote_Host> Nope, only sudo rm -rf

L226[11:22:08] <Remote_Host> It is customizable tho

L227[11:22:16] <Izaya> fucking rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

L228[11:22:54] <Negi> fuck

L229[11:22:55] <Vexatos> Would this work: alias i-am-done='rm -rf --no-preserve-root /'

L230[11:23:04] <Vexatos> or, rather

L231[11:23:10] <Vexatos> alias i-am-done='sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /'

L232[11:23:19] <Izaya> alias hell='rm -rf --no-preserve-root /'

L233[11:23:22] <Izaya> fucking hell

L234[11:23:25] <Vexatos> Yes

L235[11:23:41] <Negi> alias die='rm -rf --no-preserve-root /'

L236[11:24:09] <Izaya> alias it='rm -rf --no-preserve-root /'

L237[11:24:11] <Izaya> fuck it

L238[11:24:18] <Negi> fucking die

L239[11:26:22] <Negi> Izaya: We're going to end up making lolsh if we continue like this, aren't we ?

L240[11:26:31] <Negi> alias fuken="sudo"

L241[11:27:20] <Remote_Host> Ok, so heres what I currently propose: Color depth of graphics depends on the gpu tier, except that tier 3 will only support 16 bit colors.

L242[11:27:30] <gamax92> mmh, that CC is moving to Lua5.2 makes my emulator much easier

L243[11:27:42] <Remote_Host> Everything will be kinda like how the SNES ppu is

L244[11:27:47] <Remote_Host> except easier to handle

L245[11:27:54] <gamax92> I propose that Sangar makes OC less slow to do anything

L246[11:28:23] <Remote_Host> we will have tile based maps and sprites. those should be enough to do anything

L247[11:28:35] <Remote_Host> now for people like gamax92, we can also have another graphics mode

L248[11:28:37] <gamax92> mode 7 :P

L249[11:28:43] <Remote_Host> per pixel drawing and stuff

L250[11:29:12] <Izaya> I got this

L251[11:29:16] <Remote_Host> now, the only problem with per pixel drawing is that we need to be able to run draw commands on both the server and the client for synchronization, I'll write up something for that

L252[11:29:20] <Izaya> make a function to incriment modes

L253[11:29:24] <Izaya> it starts at 0

L254[11:29:29] <Izaya> and there is no way to decrement

L255[11:29:34] <Izaya> then make graphics mode mode -1

L256[11:29:36] <Remote_Host> (Maybe an api like cclights2)

L257[11:29:43] <Skye> Can I make my suggestions?

L258[11:29:44] <Remote_Host> Izaya: sounds amazing

L259[11:29:47] <gamax92> Skye: no

L260[11:29:47] <Remote_Host> 10/10 would buy

L261[11:30:05] <Remote_Host> Skye: Your suggestion was to have graphics on a seperate layer above/below text

L262[11:30:08] <Remote_Host> right?

L263[11:30:15] <Remote_Host> If so, that is also a thing

L264[11:30:24] <Skye> huh

L265[11:30:31] <Remote_Host> so you can have a pretty background a foreground and whatevers

L266[11:30:38] <Skye> hmm

L267[11:30:47] <Skye> maybe a way to say which is on top?

L268[11:30:53] <Remote_Host> Skye: ye

L269[11:31:06] <Remote_Host> first, lemme document this on the github issue.

L270[11:31:51] <dangranos> Remote_Host, you really dont think about the connection's speed?

L271[11:32:19] <Remote_Host> dangranos: actually, we have a lot of wiggle room for connection speed compared to ComputerCraft

L272[11:32:26] <dangranos> huh?

L273[11:32:34] <gamax92> yes because oc is so slow it uses virtually no bandwidth

L274[11:32:39] <Remote_Host> Sangar: remember that network comparison thing you made some time ago? I need to reference it

L275[11:33:15] <Sangar> hmm, oh, that? uhh, think the gist still lives, sec.

L276[11:33:23] <dangranos> Snagar, network comparision? #iwant

L277[11:33:45] <Negi> That thing is probably out of date but sssshrugs

L278[11:34:26] <Sangar> Remote_Host, http://git.io/pvZe4g

L279[11:34:27] <Skye> hmm

L280[11:34:30] <dangranos> damn you SSSS, now all 4 letters "s" standing next to each other associate with it

L281[11:36:21] <dangranos> 0.5MB?

L282[11:36:23] <dangranos> whoa

L283[11:36:37] <dangranos> OC is very light compared to CC

L284[11:36:38] <Remote_Host> yeah, compared to CC we have lots of room to make things faster and add new features

L285[11:36:49] <dangranos> what CC even sends?

L286[11:36:58] <Lizzy> dangranos, crapware

L287[11:37:08] * Lizzy shrugs

L288[11:37:24] <Izaya> dangranos, advertising

L289[11:37:36] <dangranos> spam :D

L290[11:37:36] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

L291[11:37:36] <MichiBot> EnderBot2: Monty Python - Spam | length 3m 20s | Likes: 27545 Dislikes: 672 Views: 6600806 | by zumpzump

L292[11:37:43] * Skye hugs MichiBot

L293[11:37:49] <Skye> oops

L294[11:37:51] * Skye hugs EnderBot2

L295[11:37:51] <Sangar> i *guess* cc just sends the complete screen state each time it changes. or did until now, i'd imagine if the recent gifs are really in cc, that stuff got a bit of an overhaul.

L296[11:37:51] * EnderBot2 is wondering why Skye is hugging him...

L297[11:38:03] <dangranos> oh shi~

L298[11:38:14] * Skye thinks

L299[11:38:18] <dangranos> so, i am playing on a industrial/programming server

L300[11:38:20] <gamax92> I think Sangar hates me

L301[11:38:29] <Sangar> gamax92, i totally do. why?

L302[11:38:34] <gamax92> oh, nvm

L303[11:38:34] <dangranos> now admin of that server wants to get rid of autocrafting

L304[11:39:27] <Negi> That's not really industrial.

L305[11:39:36] <Negi> Getting rid of autocrafting, I mean.

L306[11:39:52] <Izaya> I wonder if the next episode of Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu is on kickass yet

L307[11:39:59] <Izaya> it aired like, 6 hours ago

L308[11:41:46] * Skye pokes Remote_Host

L309[11:41:51] <dangranos> it's more programming with some industrial

L310[11:41:58] <Skye> where is your github issue?

L311[11:42:12] <Remote_Host> hmm?

L312[11:42:33] <Remote_Host> Skye: <Sangar> Remote_Host, sure, might want to write down your ideas in the "better graphics"-collection-issue (779)

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L314[11:44:27] <Skye> mehh

L315[11:44:43] <Skye> that's more about Video RAm

L316[11:44:45] <Skye> *RAM

L317[11:44:53] <Skye> not about full graphics

L318[11:45:04] <Vexatos> Izaya, just watch it when it airs :P

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L320[11:45:22] <Izaya> Vexatos, but I'm not in japan, nor do I speak japanese?

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L322[11:45:33] <Remote_Host> aaaaaaaaaaaaaand commented at the bottom

L323[11:45:46] <Vexatos> Izaya, Step 1: Learn Japanese

L324[11:45:55] <Vexatos> :)

L325[11:47:01] <gamax92> How to get more ram

L326[11:47:04] <gamax92> Step 1: Get more ram

L327[11:47:12] <Vexatos> No

L328[11:47:13] <Izaya> gamax92, download more RAM

L329[11:47:20] <Vexatos> Step 0: http://downloadmoreram.com/

L330[11:47:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Step 2: Buy actual RAM

L331[11:48:14] <Izaya> step 3: cut notches in the stick of DDR400 in order to make it fit

L332[11:48:20] <gamax92> How to (something)

L333[11:48:24] <gamax92> Step 1: Soemthing

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L335[11:50:00] <nightsta69_> hey guys, i have a question. when working on integration for OC into a mod, is there a way to check and see if a block is connected to a computer via cable?

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L339[11:56:11] <Sangar> nightsta69_, if it's running, runc `components` from the shell to see the connected components

L340[11:56:17] <Sangar> *run

L341[11:56:23] <nxsupert_> o/

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L343[11:56:49] <Sangar> also, whether the cable connects to the component or not is a good indicator for whether the basics are right

L344[11:57:24] <nightsta69_> no sorry sangar, i meant coding wise.

L345[11:57:25] * Vexatos runcs Snagar

L346[11:57:34] <Vexatos> oppm install snagar

L347[11:57:39] <Vexatos> Need to make snagar package

L348[11:57:49] <Vexatos> when run, displays random typos Snagar made

L349[11:57:57] <Sangar> >_>

L350[11:58:06] <Sangar> nightsta69_, ah, component.isAvailable("name")

L351[11:59:23] <Remote_Host> Sangar: whats the maximum for palette indexes

L352[11:59:26] <Vexatos> component.isAwhale-able

L353[11:59:40] <Vexatos> indices*

L354[11:59:54] <Sangar> Remote_Host, 16

L355[12:00:00] <Remote_Host> Vexatos: blame hexchat, it said it was 100# correct

L356[12:00:10] <Remote_Host> Sangar: only 16 O_o

L357[12:00:13] <Vexatos> 100%*

L358[12:00:15] <Vexatos> U;

L359[12:00:31] <Sangar> Remote_Host, well, yeah, 16 palette. for t3 it's that plus 240 fixed colors.

L360[12:00:45] <dangranos> ..maybe he is talking about java/scala code?

L361[12:00:46] <Sangar> which technically are also palette, but they're immutable

L362[12:01:04] <Vexatos> Remote_Host, will you PR it into OC or make your own mod

L363[12:01:21] <Remote_Host> Vexatos: most likely pr into OC, I don't feel like making networking code today

L364[12:01:25] <Vexatos> I'd love to have it PRed, the issue being "feature-accepted"

L365[12:01:29] <Vexatos> Nice

L366[12:01:40] * gamax92 pokes alekso56

L367[12:01:48] <gamax92> ds needs networkign code

L368[12:01:59] <alekso56> ?

L369[12:02:04] <gamax92> "ds needs networkign code"

L370[12:02:18] <alekso56> for whaaaat

L371[12:02:23] <Vexatos> nedworkign*

L372[12:02:44] <gamax92> for her "latest and greatest" graphics mod

L373[12:02:51] <dangranos> that typun is the most best!

L374[12:03:00] <alekso56> oh no

L375[12:03:28] <dangranos> "her"?

L376[12:03:44] <gamax92> tyop

L377[12:03:45] <alekso56> ds is a gender in itself.

L378[12:04:03] <gamax92> however the ds gender is closest to her

L379[12:04:13] <Remote_Host> gamax92: pls not

L380[12:04:17] <nightsta69_> Sangar, i actually meant java code. I want to check to see if a block is connected to a computer, and if its not, revert to accepting a redstone signal. but i'm not exactly sure how to check if that block is connected to a computer thru a cable.

L381[12:04:37] <gamax92> why does it need to be through a cable?

L382[12:04:38] <Remote_Host> It's going to be integrated into OC, so I just need to reuse OC's existing network infrastructure.

L383[12:05:05] <nightsta69_> erm, thats the only way i currently have it being connected.

L384[12:05:58] <gamax92> nightsta69_: from the java side, you should just see that A) The block exists in the computer's network, and B) The block is visible to the computer.

L385[12:06:00] <Sangar> nightsta69_, ah. you'll need to check the nodes in the network for that, most reliable way probably being to check for `node.host() instanceof Context` in onConnect and onDisconnect

L386[12:06:24] <nightsta69_> AH ok, thanks guys.

L387[12:06:42] <Sangar> and basically do counting (i.e. in onConnect +1, onDisconnect -1, if >0 then there's at least one computer)

L388[12:07:04] <gamax92> oh I read wrongly ...

L389[12:07:10] <gamax92> Ignore what I said

L390[12:07:28] <alekso56> gamax92: can you learn me gl so i can fix cclights2?

L391[12:07:45] <alekso56> because i don't want to do anything before there's a texture on that damn monitor.

L392[12:07:55] <alekso56> a properly scaled one.

L393[12:07:59] * gamax92 twhacks alekso56 with a GL book

L394[12:08:13] <gamax92> Have I taught you GL?

L395[12:08:18] <alekso56> I DON'T READ MANUALS

L396[12:08:24] * alekso56 throws a fit

L397[12:08:28] <gamax92> I don't GL anything

L398[12:08:36] <gamax92> I steal Sangar's code when trying to GL

L399[12:08:36] <Remote_Host> alekso56: read minecraft source code

L400[12:08:46] <alekso56> Remote_Host: i have. and i can make boxes.

L401[12:08:52] <alekso56> and all that jazz

L402[12:09:08] <Remote_Host> dat shuld b enuf

L403[12:09:16] <alekso56> gamax92 said no

L404[12:09:40] <gamax92> I said what about what?

L405[12:09:50] <alekso56> unscaled textures

L406[12:10:06] <alekso56> the ones you replaced with white.

L407[12:10:11] <gamax92> I did what?

L408[12:10:22] <gamax92> I literally have no clue what you are talking about

L409[12:10:37] <alekso56> > cclights2 > monitor textures > white

L410[12:10:48] <alekso56> > external

L411[12:11:06] <Remote_Host> ~

L412[12:11:07] <gamax92> I made them white?

L413[12:11:45] <alekso56> after you saw the unscaled textures, yes.

L414[12:12:03] <gamax92> Remote_Host: wtf is he talking about

L415[12:12:05] <dangranos> oc's assembler has such thing iirc

L416[12:12:43] <alekso56> gamax92: THE EXTERNAL MONITOR HAS UNSCALED TEXTURES NOW

L417[12:12:55] <alekso56> just boot up cclights2 and you'll see horribleness.

L418[12:13:06] <gamax92> wtf does this mean

L419[12:13:15] <gamax92> I seriously have no clue what you are talking about

L420[12:13:28] <gamax92> please stop telling me about this I don't know why you are telling me this

L421[12:13:36] <alekso56> lol

L422[12:13:58] <dangranos> it's oclights2

L423[12:13:59] <alekso56> every texture on the monitors are stretched

L424[12:14:09] <dangranos> OC~=CC

L425[12:14:12] <alekso56> that too probably

L426[12:14:22] <alekso56> if it's the same code

L427[12:15:07] <gamax92> alekso56: oh, you mean when monitors are combined the textures stretch across both?

L428[12:15:16] <alekso56> yes.

L429[12:15:37] <alekso56> i call that horribleness.

L430[12:15:59] * gamax92 steals Sangar's screen GL

L431[12:16:03] <Vexatos> .openprg

L432[12:16:18] <^v> Vexatos, http://68.36.225.16/paste/EPDnW.html

L433[12:17:00] <gamax92> I'mma go watch more splatoon then

L434[12:21:53] <nxsupert_> o/

L435[12:23:55] <Remote_Host> I'mma go get lunch

L436[12:24:30] <Izaya> it is now 3:30 AM

L437[12:24:33] <Izaya> should I sleep?

L438[12:24:42] <nxsupert_> No

L439[12:24:58] <Izaya> I didn't sleep last night. Should I sleep?

L440[12:25:03] <nxsupert_> No

L441[12:25:07] <CompanionCube> no

L442[12:25:11] <alekso56> Yes.

L443[12:25:18] <nxsupert_> Shhh alekso56

L444[12:25:23] <Izaya> indecision intensifies

L445[12:25:35] <alekso56> Izaya: eat

L446[12:25:45] <Izaya> eat?

L447[12:25:49] <vifino> Eat.

L448[12:25:53] <alekso56> Eat!

L449[12:25:55] <Vexatos> Izaya, you should survive

L450[12:26:02] <Vexatos> mortals do need sleep occasionally

L451[12:26:04] <Vexatos> deal with it

L452[12:30:44] <gamax92> If xbox 360 and ps3 emulation are already semi possible, why is a wii u emulator "not possible anytime within the near future"

L453[12:30:54] <alekso56> loooool

L454[12:31:14] <Izaya> gamax92, because no-one wants a Wii U emulator

L455[12:31:31] <gamax92> I must be no-one

L456[12:32:02] <Izaya> and more importantly,

L457[12:32:11] <Izaya> you. get. nothing!

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L465[13:02:21] <Inari> wee

L466[13:02:25] <Inari> the idea i posed is still alie

L467[13:02:26] <Inari> *alive

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L474[13:56:06] <vifino> CompanionCube: Upgraded from .187 to .199, was worth it.

L475[13:56:36] <vifino> The one theme was a little unexpected though :/

L476[14:02:57] <CompanionCube> vifino, I use accents-ui

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L478[14:09:19] <clever> i had a look at how you could run openos on a real embeded system, but ran into an unexpected error

L479[14:09:22] <clever> main function has more than 200 local variables

L480[14:10:20] <clever> which doesnt make much sense, the code its loading doesnt have that many yet

L481[14:12:04] <clever> oh, (facepalm)

L482[14:12:19] <clever> load(function () return eeprom end,"=eeprom") this repeats the bios, infinitely

L483[14:19:38] <S3> So I don't remember if anyone answered me yesterday

L484[14:19:42] <S3> do computers have addresses too?

L485[14:19:46] <S3> just like components

L486[14:22:05] <Temia> I believe so

L487[14:23:17] <S3> if they do, I can use that for multiplexing multiple JSON streams at once.. neat.

L488[14:28:01] <S3> Temia, right now my mod is called ocrpc, but maybe I should call it something like Evil Computers addon.

L489[14:29:45] <nxsupert_> o/

L490[14:30:03] <S3> or Evil RPC

L491[14:31:40] <Temia> Yeah, definitely change the name

L492[14:31:50] <Temia> My first thoughts were "optical character recognition in minecraft? huh?"

L493[14:35:08] <S3> optical eh?

L494[14:36:18] <S3> you know what's funny about that

L495[14:36:22] <gamax92> nothing

L496[14:37:14] <S3> nono

L497[14:37:30] <S3> Temia, I work at a virtual reality research lab

L498[14:37:56] <Temia> oh, cool :o

L499[14:37:59] <gamax92> ... wow :o

L500[14:38:03] <S3> yeah just started a few days ago

L501[14:38:21] <S3> so maybe.. I could make a AR / VR addon for OC? :P

L502[14:38:48] <gamax92> isn't that OpenGlasses

L503[14:38:50] <Temia> Poor OpenPeripherals. First its ticket machine is usurped, now its terminal glasses. ;.;

L504[14:38:59] <gamax92> although i've never got it to wokr

L505[14:39:49] <Vexatos> Poor Temia

L506[14:40:13] <Temia> Yep. Looks like my planned PR for OP is completely moot now .3.

L507[14:40:22] <gamax92> what was your planned pr

L508[14:40:42] <Vexatos> Temia, what were you going to do

L509[14:40:47] <gamax92> TEMIA SPILL THE BEANS

L510[14:40:48] <Temia> Making OP's sensors and glasses bridge into upgrades for tablets/robots.

L511[14:41:26] <Temia> So you could have an advanced HUD with you, monitoring the area around you, at all times

L512[14:42:14] <gamax92> Artificial Intelligence Matrix for Enhanced Telecommunications

L513[14:42:16] <gamax92> AIMET

L514[14:42:36] <Vexatos> Temia, sooo... like Computronics radar blocks?

L515[14:42:43] <gamax92> haha

L516[14:42:49] <Vexatos> they work as turtle upgrades

L517[14:43:00] <Temia> Sensors had a bunch of other data too I think

L518[14:43:00] <Vexatos> just like chat boxes and cameras

L519[14:43:04] <gamax92> I need to get openglasses to work

L520[14:43:41] <Temia> But radar would work too, I think. The main thing was getting the terminal glasses bridge tabletable.

L521[14:43:48] <Inari> what does "open for adoption" mean

L522[14:44:13] <Inari> Temia: what did usurp the ticke tmachien and terminal glasses?

L523[14:44:13] <Vexatos> Inari, that Sangar cba to do it himself

L524[14:44:20] <Vexatos> and others are free to do it

L525[14:44:43] <S3> unsurped gamax92 ?

L526[14:44:50] <Inari> Vexatos: but it goes into OC once implemented?

L527[14:44:57] <gamax92> waht?

L528[14:44:57] <S3> gamax92, and what I meant is a REAL AR / VR addon

L529[14:45:04] <S3> that uses a VR / AR set

L530[14:45:05] <gamax92> go on ...

L531[14:45:10] <Temia> Vex made his own ticket machine in Computronics, and if S3 did an AR/VR setup for OC, that'd make the glasses useless too '3'

L532[14:45:27] <gamax92> Temia: OpenGlasses .-.

L533[14:45:27] <Inari> how do you make an AR/VR setup for OC

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L535[14:45:32] <Temia> Mrp.

L536[14:45:37] <Temia> FINE. .3.

L537[14:45:42] * Temia sulkmoo.

L538[14:45:48] <Inari> OC has no glsses iirc D:

L539[14:45:49] <gamax92> D:

L540[14:45:58] <Temia> It doesn't, I was talking about OP

L541[14:46:01] * gamax92 cuddles Temia

L542[14:47:15] <gamax92> S3: so, an addon that could generate fake worlds through a computer?

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L544[14:47:36] <Inari> S3: what did you make that with?

L545[14:48:15] <invultri> Hello. I am running a little discussion for a server modpack and OC came up. Where can I find some docs that can put my mind at ease when it comes to player programs interacting with the actual server ?

L546[14:48:31] <Vexatos> Inari, OpenGlasses does

L547[14:48:41] <Vexatos> Inari, and, yes, it will be PRed to OC

L548[14:48:53] <Inari> nice, nice

L549[14:48:59] <Inari> i should request more features

L550[14:49:06] <gamax92> did you just all ignore me when I said OpenGlasses multiple times >_>

L551[14:49:22] <Inari> i hadn o context for what you said

L552[14:49:39] <gamax92> >OpenPeripherals glasses

L553[14:49:40] <nxsupert_> invultri: http://ocdoc.cil.li/ contains all the documentation for programming OC computers

L554[14:49:41] <gamax92> >OpenGlasses

L555[14:49:45] <gamax92> >discussion about AR

L556[14:49:48] <gamax92> i though this was obvious

L557[14:49:59] <Vexatos> invultri, for asking about internals, just ask Sangar directly

L558[14:50:06] <Inari> hololens when

L559[14:50:08] <Vexatos> there is no real documentation on that IIRC

L560[14:50:16] <Vexatos> (ping intended)

L561[14:50:19] <S3> Inari, what did I make what with?

L562[14:50:20] <Vexatos> or indented? D:

L563[14:50:28] <gamax92> intended

L564[14:50:34] <Vexatos> No

L565[14:50:34] <Inari> S3: your VR/AR thingy

L566[14:50:39] * Vexatos indents gamax92

L567[14:50:40] <invultri> Vexatos: thanks

L568[14:50:45] <S3> Inari, no no, I was saying I could make one

L569[14:50:47] * gamax92 has been shifted over

L570[14:50:51] <Inari> :p

L571[14:50:55] <S3> especially since we have holodeckable VR rooms

L572[14:50:59] <Vexatos> gamax92 << 1

L573[14:51:05] <S3> in the lab

L574[14:51:06] <gamax92> nooo!!!!!!

L575[14:51:08] <Vexatos> I need to go now

L576[14:51:10] <Vexatos> bai

L577[14:51:14] <gamax92> you'll shift my bits out and then I'll be all zero

L578[14:51:26] <S3> gamax92, depends on your compiler?

L579[14:51:29] <Inari> gamax >> INF

L580[14:51:33] <S3> or architecture

L581[14:51:37] <S3> architecture.

L582[14:51:44] <gamax92> well, yeah

L583[14:52:01] <S3> some cpus that do signed stuff will shift in 1s

L584[14:52:04] <gamax92> I've had enough of those types of responses for a semester

L585[14:52:07] <S3> when its a signed number

L586[14:52:18] <S3> or some crap

L587[14:52:28] <S3> what major gamax92 ?

L588[14:52:42] <gamax92> My fucking C++ instruction, if you'd ask him a question, instead of giving you an answer he would be like "Well it depends on what hardware and architecture and blah blah blah"

L589[14:52:57] <gamax92> and its like, gee thanks for not being helpful

L590[14:53:02] <gamax92> Computer Science

L591[14:53:41] <S3> ah

L592[14:53:45] <S3> I am Electrical Engineering

L593[14:54:05] <Skye> gamax92 = !gamax92; // anti-gamax92

L594[14:54:09] <S3> gamax92, did they talk to you about how the subscript operator is commutative?

L595[14:54:18] <S3> array[index] is the same thing as index[array]

L596[14:54:27] <S3> because a[b] is short for *(a + b)

L597[14:54:36] <gamax92> i sorta knew that.

L598[14:54:40] <S3> :>

L599[14:54:46] <gamax92> S3: it would be like a homework questions saying what does this array store, but the array itself is never initialized and would affect what it stores

L600[14:54:48] <S3> IO confused my professor for C with a line that looked like:

L601[14:54:56] <S3> y ++[myarray]

L602[14:55:02] <S3> he was like wtf is going on

L603[14:55:12] <S3> just to be funny

L604[14:55:57] <S3> another one you can use is if (-1 > 1U) { printf("YAY\n"); } else { printf("AWW\n"); }

L605[14:56:00] <S3> what does that print?

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L607[14:56:31] <S3> LOOL

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L610[15:00:25] <nxsupert_> Would -1 would be interpreted as 1.8446744e+19 when shifting?

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L614[15:03:46] <clever> what exactly is component.list() returning, a table?

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L616[15:04:08] <rashy> clever, yes

L617[15:04:22] <clever> rashy: and each row in the table is what?

L618[15:04:33] <rashy> component name and component address

L619[15:04:54] <clever> i can see the uuid and name, but how would i generate a compatible output from lua?

L620[15:05:51] <rashy> not entirely sure what you mean by that

L621[15:05:54] <clever> http://pastebin.com/whFU0p77 is this returning the data in the right format?

L622[15:07:47] <rashy> I think so, but I'm not familiar enough with lua tables

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L624[15:10:40] <nxsupert_> Is there any kind of X server for Open OS?

L625[15:13:10] <clever> nxsupert_: remember how we talked about running openos on a rpi a week ago?

L626[15:13:31] <nxsupert_> Yes.

L627[15:14:07] <clever> now that ive had some time to play with it ingame and investigate the source, i can see that its single process

L628[15:14:20] <clever> so the whole #!/bin/lua mess isnt needed

L629[15:14:24] <nxsupert_> I knew that.

L630[15:14:27] <clever> all programs are just pcall'd into the parent

L631[15:15:20] <clever> so with just a small script that handles the hardware level, like component.filesystem, i should be able to run openos outside of MC

L632[15:16:24] <nxsupert_> Yes.

L633[15:17:20] <nxsupert_> I am going to implement lua directly in kernel.

L634[15:18:04] <clever> i was thinking of just having a second bios layer, /sbin/init is just a #!/bin/lua script that fills in a few files, and then runs stock bios.lua

L635[15:19:06] <nxsupert_> The problem is though. Implementing the programming to handle the hardware will be... complex.

L636[15:19:20] <clever> ?

L637[15:19:53] <nxsupert_> Umm.

L638[15:21:32] <nxsupert_> I have to provide access to the hardware , GPIO , Filesystem , USB etc etc.

L639[15:21:55] <clever> in my idea, filesystem would just be thru the existing api in openos

L640[15:22:06] <clever> i just have to map filesystem.open to io.open

L641[15:22:16] <nxsupert_> Thats the problem.

L642[15:22:20] <clever> gpio would need a custom component, but that would be fairly easy

L643[15:23:08] <nxsupert_> There will be no operating system. So I have to write the file driver , USB driver , GPIO driver etc etc my self.

L644[15:23:27] <clever> only thing messing me up is that the =eval thing in the console isnt behaving the same way on linux and OC

L645[15:23:42] <clever> under OC it iterates thru the table and gives usefull info, but hides types

L646[15:23:49] <nxsupert_> Oh.

L647[15:24:02] <nxsupert_> I'm not building this on top of Linux.

L648[15:24:07] <clever> yeah

L649[15:24:20] <clever> major difference in design

L650[15:24:22] <clever> under OC, =component prints out the whole table in a usefull format, but under linux, it just says table: 0x....

L651[15:25:37] <Skye> clever, that's because of lua.lua not having exactly the same functionality as the normal lua interpreter

L652[15:25:50] <clever> ah, i was thinking lua 5.1 vs 5.2

L653[15:26:04] <nxsupert_> Seeing as I am not even using Linux , that shouldn't be a problem.

L654[15:27:56] <nxsupert_> My main problem is going to be implementing USB drivers and Filesystem drivers

L655[15:28:18] <clever> filesystem should have examples and is relatively simple

L656[15:28:25] <clever> but usb is another matter entirely

L657[15:28:38] <nxsupert_> My OS doesn't even know what FAT is.

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L660[15:30:08] <nxsupert_> I have been told that the USB standard is stupidly complex.

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L662[15:30:36] <clever> one weird part ive noticed, there is no way for the device to just transmit data to the host

L663[15:30:45] <clever> the host must poll the device, at regular intervals

L664[15:30:51] <clever> 'got any data yet?' over&over

L665[15:31:46] <clever> nxsupert_: another complex area for the pi, and i think arm CPU's in general, is fiq

L666[15:31:54] <nxsupert_> FIQ?

L667[15:32:20] <clever> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/973933/what-is-the-difference-between-fiq-and-irq-interrupt-system

L668[15:34:02] <clever> i think the pi has a limited amount of ram that the FIQ code can fit in

L669[15:34:08] <nxsupert_> I am *trying* to avoid implementing interrupts all together. Because if I do that then the hole system will be running in real time. Which will allow me to do PWM.

L670[15:34:20] <clever> and the timing sensitive part of the usb controller is in FIQ, to keep performance high

L671[15:34:32] <nxsupert_> That being said.

L672[15:34:38] <nxsupert_> I am using a Pi.

L673[15:34:44] <nxsupert_> RPi2

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L675[15:35:55] <nxsupert_> Time to find out if having multiple cores does what I think it does.

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L678[15:36:38] <clever> nxsupert_: from what i saw, i think all 4 arm cores start running physical address 0x000000 in parallel when it comes out of reset

L679[15:37:00] <nxsupert_> Not at 0x000000

L680[15:37:05] <nxsupert_> 0x08000

L681[15:37:18] <clever> http://pastebin.com/rgGgBuTN

L682[15:37:21] <clever> it always starts running at 0

L683[15:37:30] <clever> this code is normaly included at 0 to do some bootstraping, before it jumps to 0x8000

L684[15:37:50] <clever> that disables cores 2,3,4 as well

L685[15:38:00] <nxsupert_> Ok.

L686[15:38:08] <clever> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=98367&start=375#p697474

L687[15:38:11] <nxsupert_> I never really looked at the bootstrap.

L688[15:38:24] <clever> if you set kernel_old=1 in config.txt, then that pastebin is skipped entirely

L689[15:38:35] <clever> so you can load your arm code to 0x0 and take total control of the arm

L690[15:39:03] <clever> but thats not really required

L691[15:39:20] <clever> just something you may want to know about

L692[15:39:30] <nxsupert_> I don't think that would be a good idea. The bootstrapping gives me some useful information.

L693[15:40:20] <clever> yeah, i think the only way to know the phys address of the IO registers is via atags, which that pastebin supplies

L694[15:40:33] <clever> so you cant do pi1 vs pi2 detection without it

L695[15:41:44] <nxsupert_> So I could in theory dedicate an entire core to USB stuff.

L696[15:42:03] <clever> yeah

L697[15:42:20] <clever> you could even dedicated an entire core to PWM

L698[15:42:30] <clever> you got 4 of em! lol

L699[15:42:48] <nxsupert_> Your right.

L700[15:43:03] <clever> 1 core for lua, 1 for pwm, 1 for usb, and maybe 1 for interupts?

L701[15:43:24] <clever> though the lua core can also handle interupts, if you dont need real-time lua execution

L702[15:44:18] <nxsupert_> If I could dedicate an entire core to PWM. I don't think I would the lua system to be real time.

L703[15:44:52] <clever> another way to do PWM on the same core as interupts, you could maybe route a timer interupt to the FIQ

L704[15:45:00] <clever> so it can fire even inside other irq handlers

L705[15:45:40] <nxsupert_> But using all these Cores means I would have to implement Mutex's

L706[15:46:23] <nxsupert_> Actually.

L707[15:46:24] <clever> depends on if the data your editing is atomic or not

L708[15:46:26] <nxsupert_> Maybe not.

L709[15:46:41] <clever> for pwm, you could use a 32bit int that is 32bit aligned in ram

L710[15:46:58] <clever> writes should be atomic, so it will never read wrong

L711[15:47:25] <nxsupert_> True.

L712[15:47:45] <clever> so the pwm core can be a dumb loop that just compares one counter against 20 level registers, and sets/clears pins as needed

L713[15:48:00] <clever> just make sure the loop is constant time, the set, clear, and neither path must be equal in length

L714[15:48:46] <clever> which just leaves cache issues, if you write on one core, will the other cores see it asap?

L715[15:49:13] <nxsupert_> No idea.

L716[15:49:32] <clever> need to test for that while designing the pwm stuff

L717[15:49:42] <nxsupert_> Tbh at the moment i am just writing stuff to the RAM.

L718[15:50:04] <clever> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=92579

L719[15:50:20] <clever> USB on baremetal example

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L722[15:52:09] <nxsupert_> Lets see what I need to implement.

L723[15:52:21] <nxsupert_> malloc and free. Already doing that.

L724[15:52:22] <clever> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bcm2836/QA7_rev3.4.pdf

L725[15:52:58] <nxsupert_> Delays , already implemented.

L726[15:54:20] <clever> hmmm, mailboxes look fun

L727[15:54:27] <clever> 16 mailboxes total, 4 per core, 32 bits each

L728[15:54:54] <clever> one register sets bits by writting high, a second register lets you read it, and clear by writting high

L729[15:55:04] <clever> as long as any bit is set, the interupt will fire

L730[15:55:31] <nxsupert_> https://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BCM2835-ARM-Peripherals.pdf

L731[15:55:37] <clever> so thats 128 interupt conditions you can signal into each core and differentiate?

L732[15:55:43] <nxsupert_> Is what I have been using so far.

L733[15:56:19] <clever> the pdf i linked is the quad core cpu itself

L734[15:56:22] <clever> i think that pdf is the non-cpu features, gpio, gpu, usb

L735[15:56:44] <nxsupert_> Yes. But it contains the timer in it.

L736[15:57:48] <nxsupert_> I am looking at what needs to be implemented for the usbpi libary you sent me.

L737[15:58:21] <clever> i see 2 timers on the peripherals pdf, chapter 12 is a system timer, and chapter 14 is the arm timer

L738[15:59:29] <clever> i think chapter 12 is a timer broadcom added to the design, while chapter 14 is part of the arm core itself, which has been replaced in the pi2 with a different arm core

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L740[16:00:39] <nxsupert_> I'm using the System Timer.

L741[16:02:28] <nxsupert_> Mainly because it is a 64 bit timer , So I will never have to worry about running over.

L742[16:02:52] <clever> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bcm2836/QA7_rev3.4.pdf page 3

L743[16:02:57] <nxsupert_> Do you want to see what I already have implemented?

L744[16:02:59] <clever> a 64 bit timer right in the arm core itself

L745[16:03:16] <nxsupert_> Ohh

L746[16:03:30] <clever> i think this is only on the quad core version

L747[16:03:49] <nxsupert_> https://github.com/emwebb/RPiBASIC-OS

L748[16:04:30] <nxsupert_> Should I say screw the RPI1 and just focus on the RPi2?

L749[16:04:51] <clever> the extra cores would make some of the real-time stuff a lot easyer

L750[16:04:57] <gamax92> what happened to S3

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L754[16:06:24] <clever> nxsupert_: oh, you will also want to look into luac for improving boot times

L755[16:07:04] <Altenius> nxsupert_, that your repo?

L756[16:07:18] <nxsupert_> Yes

L757[16:07:34] <Altenius> Well, memory.h and memory.c are the same

L758[16:08:04] <clever> should be ; instead of {} in the .h

L759[16:08:19] <nxsupert_> Refresh it.

L760[16:08:21] <gamax92> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C-family_programming_languages

L761[16:08:33] <gamax92> some of these things on this list do not feel like C at all, I do not understand

L762[16:08:35] <clever> completely different

L763[16:09:05] <gamax92> >C-family languages are those that use C-like block syntax

L764[16:09:08] <gamax92> >Lua

L765[16:09:44] <gamax92> >python

L766[16:11:09] <nxsupert_> Well. Apparently atom.io suddenly implemented autocomplete :P

L767[16:12:38] <CompanionCube> nxsupert_, it was already there

L768[16:12:56] <CompanionCube> just that the built-in version was crap vs the community one

L769[16:13:05] <nxsupert_> ok.

L770[16:13:19] * CompanionCube uses Atom as his main code editor now

L771[16:13:53] <Remote_Host> .p

L772[16:14:02] <^v> Ping reply from Remote_Host 7.13s

L773[16:14:03] <Remote_Host> oh god

L774[16:15:49] <gamax92> .p

L775[16:16:04] <gamax92> %p

L776[16:16:05] <MichiBot> Ping reply from gamax92 0.31s

L777[16:16:11] <gamax92> ^v is dying

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L779[16:18:34] <^v> Ping reply from gamax92 1.93s

L780[16:20:59] <Altenius> Well, now I have to download 1 GB of dependencies to compile atom \0/

L781[16:23:26] <S3> gamax92, I'm here, I went to a restaurant

L782[16:23:32] <S3> with almostwife

L783[16:24:56] <S3> WHY IS HASKELL in that list?!

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L785[16:25:11] <CompanionCube> Altenius, for what?

L786[16:25:16] <CompanionCube> which distro?

L787[16:25:17] <gamax92> S3: ikr

L788[16:25:20] <gamax92> this list makes no sense

L789[16:25:43] <S3> And Perl needs to be updated, because Perl isn't a scripting language anymore

L790[16:25:51] <S3> I mean it can be used for such but

L791[16:26:03] <S3> it has evolved in the past 10 years a lot, to be a general programming language

L792[16:26:21] <CompanionCube> Altenius, oh, arch linux?

L793[16:26:44] <S3> I've actually been writing a game engine in Perl for the past few years.

L794[16:27:12] <CompanionCube> install atom-editor-bin

L795[16:27:18] <CompanionCube> it's a prebuilt version of Atom.

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L798[16:28:24] <Altenius> CompanionCube, oh

L799[16:28:47] <CompanionCube> Altenius, it's built by downloading the deb and extracting Atom

L800[16:29:11] * CompanionCube found this out because Atom never compiles on his machine.

L801[16:29:13] <Altenius> I wish I knew that a few months ago :/

L802[16:30:18] <CompanionCube> Altenius, so you a regular atom user?

L803[16:31:16] <Altenius> Nah, I've only opened it once or twice. I was using sublime text because some plugins but I don't need those anymore.

L804[16:32:12] * CompanionCube has found a nice particular set of plugins

L805[16:33:02] <CompanionCube> 16 installed community packages, plus my theme and syntax

L806[16:33:18] <Altenius> What theme?

L807[16:33:34] <Altenius> Looks ugly default

L808[16:33:40] <CompanionCube> Accents is my UI theme

L809[16:33:53] <CompanionCube> Sublime Default is my syntax theme

L810[16:34:02] <S3> Writing this mod crap in Java has really reminded me how much I hate Java and how much it fails.

L811[16:34:16] <S3> man I hate this crap

L812[16:36:02] <S3> thanks to gradle, writing mods with emacs is 99% easier.

L813[16:36:09] <Altenius> Eh, how do I install packages/themes?

L814[16:36:22] <S3> themes?

L815[16:36:31] <CompanionCube> Altenius, settings view

L816[16:36:34] <CompanionCube> click 'install'

L817[16:36:50] <CompanionCube> then click 'themes' and enter text into the search

L818[16:37:14] <S3> oh sublime text?

L819[16:37:21] <CompanionCube> S3, on

L820[16:37:22] <CompanionCube> *no

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L822[16:39:56] <CompanionCube> my current atom workspace: tree view to my left, the main part of the window is split into 3 panes

L823[16:40:20] <CompanionCube> top left is my editor pane, top right a menu pane, and the bottom pane is a bash terminal running irb

L824[16:41:15] <CompanionCube> Altenius, such flexibility right

L825[16:41:44] <Altenius> yeh

L826[16:44:40] <CompanionCube> oh, and my editor's styling has been customised using basically CSS

L827[16:52:22] <CompanionCube> Altenius, lol

L828[16:52:34] <CompanionCube> I just made a button disappear by adding a few lines to styles.less

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L830[16:56:56] <Altenius> I really hate GTK

L831[16:58:16] <gamax92> I really love HTK

L832[16:58:43] <gamax92> I really hate Altenius though

L833[16:59:34] <Altenius> I also hate you too, gamax92.

L834[16:59:41] <Altenius> Had to make the line lengths sync

L835[17:00:40] <gamax92> Ah okay, good job there, Altenius

L836[17:01:10] <nxsupert_> ....

L837[17:01:15] <gamax92> what

L838[17:01:25] <nxsupert_> .

L839[17:01:26] <Altenius> Im tired of working on OCEmulator

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L841[17:01:39] <gamax92> Altenius: how's the emu going

L842[17:02:06] <TabletCube> Altenius: have I missed anythinh?

L843[17:03:02] <Altenius> Well, the GUI isn't implemented yet and neither are any components

L844[17:04:08] <S3> There doesn't happen to be an alternate download site for Open Computers somewhere is there?

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L846[17:04:36] <S3> I can't download it onto my servers with fetch, and for some reason I am getting 0.1KB/s upload speeds when I try to upload them

L847[17:05:00] <S3> I hate it when I can't just get a direct download link because of situations like this lol

L848[17:05:23] <gamax92> S3: ci.cil.li ?

L849[17:05:56] <TabletCube> inb4 Altenius uses Electron for the emulator's GUI. Even though I think a chromium-based emu would have crap performance

L850[17:06:10] <S3> oh right

L851[17:06:17] <Altenius> I'm using GTK+

L852[17:08:27] <TabletCube> Altenius: was a joke#

L853[17:08:36] <Altenius> What's Electron?

L854[17:09:02] <TabletCube> Altenius: the thing Atom's built on

L855[17:09:10] <S3> Altenius, OH NO!

L856[17:09:15] <TabletCube> As well as Visual Studio Code

L857[17:09:22] <S3> you should use curses :)

L858[17:09:28] * gamax92 slaps S3

L859[17:09:28] * EnderBot2 high-fives gamax92

L860[17:09:28] <gamax92> no

L861[17:09:31] <S3> LOL

L862[17:09:37] <S3> xdialog?

L863[17:10:12] <Altenius> "Build cross platform desktop apps with web technologies" "with web technologies"

L864[17:10:13] <Altenius> ew

L865[17:10:18] <gamax92> Altenius: http://hastebin.com/ujafikibuh.c I haven't in depthly looked at this but, is thing.

L866[17:10:35] <gamax92> mainly because I have no idea what I'm doing

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L870[17:12:35] <gamax92> Fine, go away then

L871[17:16:17] <S3> lol

L872[17:16:35] <gamax92> the point of that was to connect SDL to a GTK window

L873[17:16:46] <gamax92> it works semi weird though

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L876[17:20:53] <CompanionCube> Now on my BNC.

L877[17:21:52] * PotatoTrumpet slaps _________

L878[17:21:52] * EnderBot2 chuckles

L879[17:22:08] * PotatoTrumpet slaps EnderBot2.1

L880[17:22:08] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing

L881[17:22:12] <PotatoTrumpet> :P

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L883[17:32:49] * Remote_Host slaps

L884[17:32:51] * Remote_Host slaps

L885[17:32:51] * EnderBot2 laughs

L886[17:32:53] <Remote_Host> lel

L887[17:33:15] * Skye|ZZZ slaps EnderBot2

L888[17:33:16] * EnderBot2 throws a brick at Skye|ZZZ

L889[17:33:21] * Skye|ZZZ throws a brick at EnderBot2

L890[17:33:25] <Skye|ZZZ> ^^

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L892[17:40:32] <Altenius> gamax92, I don't need to use SDL

L893[17:44:13] <gamax92> shhh

L894[17:44:17] <gamax92> cairo = bad

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L898[18:07:30] <S3> what is the most unhackiest way to connect a CC computer and OC computer over a network

L899[18:07:35] <S3> do you think?

L900[18:08:59] <Inari> isnt htere OC/CC integration?

L901[18:09:02] <Inari> maybe redstone :P

L902[18:10:11] <gamax92> S3: why not just send network messages?

L903[18:11:25] <S3> I can myes but I meant in terms of hardware hookup

L904[18:11:37] <S3> I'm assuming you can't just connect network cables to OC copmputers from CC

L905[18:12:04] <gamax92> uhh, something to do with the Switch iirc

L906[18:12:09] <gamax92> I haven't done it any time recently

L907[18:12:10] <S3> huh

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L909[18:14:22] <S3> hmm

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L911[18:21:04] <S3> figured it out I think

L912[18:21:22] <S3> computer -> cable -> adaptor -> wired modem -> network cable -> wired modem -> computer craft computer

L913[18:22:20] <Sangar> S3, switch next to cc computer. acts as cc modem, receives oc network messages as events in the cc computer, cc computer can send oc messages via it (like it would using a cc modem)

L914[18:25:33] <S3> lol CC is getting java errors when we rednet.broadcast on it

L915[18:31:34] <gamax92> oh, you are here Sangar

L916[18:36:13] <vifino> ping: It was a joke you idiot >_>

L917[18:36:21] ⇦ Parts: ping (~pixel@2601:4:680:104c:5876:6985:54d:70d) (Kicked by oper))

L918[18:37:26] <Sangar> S3, latest oc? (i.e. .10-dev? pretty sure that was fixed)

L919[18:38:01] <S3> ah

L920[18:38:04] <S3> I'm usion stable

L921[18:38:38] <Kodos> Guess it's not very...

L922[18:38:41] * Kodos puts on sunglasses

L923[18:38:42] <Kodos> stable.

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L925[18:39:21] <S3> HEH

L926[18:40:02] <S3> how do we pull messages from that adaptor as a modem?

L927[18:40:17] <S3> just trying to dump events and it doesn't seem to be catching any

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L929[18:43:00] <S3> got it

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L932[18:56:18] <S3> well neat. Is there a way btw to draw pixels on the screen?

L933[18:56:44] <S3> I mean you'd think the graphics card would have some features like that

L934[18:59:39] <Skye|ZZZ> S3: not yet.

L935[19:00:16] <S3> makes me wonder if I should make a 2D acceleration graphics card if there was a way to do some hacks on the monitors.

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