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L4[00:29:13] <kane_hart> Katie who do I troll to ask a bug question
L5[00:29:28] <Katie> O_o
L6[00:29:39] <kane_hart> 0_o
L7[00:29:46] <kane_hart> http://i.imgur.com/u6FVXYw.jpg
L8[00:30:41] <Katie> check your log..?
L9[00:30:46] <kane_hart> All I changed was the lastest forge via the github not build as its not released its a patch for some issues. That main issue was loading Forge Essentials
L10[00:30:49] <kane_hart> yeah I can check
L11[00:33:02] <kane_hart> lol...
L12[00:33:13] <kane_hart> 64k lines its hard to tell what I should look for
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L14[00:33:55] <Katie> Search for simplecomponent?
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L16[00:35:13] <kane_hart> I tried that since it is what it said there in chat but nothing comes up
L17[00:35:30] <Vexatos> Which log are you looking at
L18[00:35:48] <kane_hart> fml latest sorry if that is the wrong one
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L20[00:36:00] <kane_hart> So many log files these days I'm a little out of touch
L21[00:36:26] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L22[00:37:49] <kane_hart> is SimpleComponent even part of OC or is that another mod? I have none close to that name but could be like API thing etc?
L23[00:38:10] <Katie> Its an oc thing
L24[00:38:57] <Katie> Implement simplecomponent on a te to get basic component functionality
L25[00:41:29] <Kodos> This movie is fucking hilarious
L26[00:43:56] <kane_hart> Yeah it seems like a bug with this patch Vexatos not 100% sure but maybe you can see if you think it might cause it: https://github.com/MinecraftForge/FML/pull/650
L27[00:44:16] <kane_hart> I removed FE thinking it was it because I needed this patch for FE to work. But it seems to be the patch causing it
L28[00:44:18] <kane_hart> not FE
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L42[01:47:05] <kane_hart> Someone says that OC uses ASM and prob have to move to Mixin for the future? that is what is causing my issues :P
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L48[02:12:51] <Kodos> And they've smoked how much crack today?
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L52[02:14:22] <kane_hart> =(
L53[02:16:41] <Katie> It was probs lex on another of his anti asm/coremod kicks
L54[02:18:14] <kane_hart> Yeah don't blame me :P I'm only the messenger but sadly only OC out of 150 mods seems to make the error haha.
L55[02:18:57] <Kodos|Zzz> Can it be replicated with JUST forge and OC?
L56[02:20:05] <kane_hart> I can try lol.
L57[02:21:29] <kane_hart> server loads so fast :P
L58[02:21:41] <Kodos|Zzz> Andrew Lesnie died =(
L59[02:21:55] <kane_hart> damn I gotta kill my mods in the client to many conflicts
L60[02:23:02] <kane_hart> seems to have worked so its another conflict. In before fast craft
L61[02:23:12] <kane_hart> besides the power error http://i.imgur.com/Hdt7qvY.png
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L63[02:23:41] <Kodos|Zzz> That's normal, since you have no power providing mods and didn't disable it in the config
L64[02:23:55] <Kodos|Zzz> Best bet is to track down the actual conflict, and start there
L65[02:24:01] <Kodos|Zzz> But I didn't think it was OC
L66[02:24:18] <Kodos|Zzz> Finished my tea, so NOW I'm going to bed
L67[02:24:22] <Kodos|Zzz> gn everyone
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L69[02:25:31] <kane_hart> night
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L84[03:15:34] <Sulljason> For the filesystem open modes what does the b mean?
L85[03:15:39] <Sulljason> LIke wb rb etc
L86[03:17:40] <Izaya> binary rather than ascii
L87[03:17:52] <Izaya> ie you get all 8 bits, not just the 7 in ascii
L88[03:18:04] <Sulljason> k thanks
L89[03:18:10] <Izaya> of course, in OC it actually makes no difference
L90[03:18:22] <Sulljason> lol ya doesnt seem like it does
L91[03:19:02] <Sulljason> still getting used to dyanmically typed languages vs. Java where everything is so strict and definiate
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L93[03:20:32] <Jike> Hi, does anyone know how to pick up a robot, after you have placed it somewhere?
L94[03:20:45] <Izaya> You mine it, I believe
L95[03:21:08] <Jike> Won't it break?
L96[03:21:31] <Izaya> I don't think it will, but I don't use robots often
L97[03:22:05] <Jike> Ok, let me try.. Last time I tried to break it on hand I seemed to be hurt...
L98[03:22:26] <Jike> Thank you
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L100[03:28:14] <Sulljason> Ya you'll just pick it up like a turtle. He might have mistaken power for HP lol
L101[03:28:30] <Sulljason> afaik they're indistructable except for the end dragon
L102[03:31:57] <Vexatos> Sangar, apparently you're still shipping the Railcraft API for some reason... :/
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L104[03:43:20] <Sulljason> How do I overwrite part of a file?
L105[03:43:45] <Izaya> read it, filter the part, replace and write it back
L106[03:44:44] <Sulljason> so like I thought :/
L107[03:45:20] <Sulljason> so load the file into memory then change what I want and write it all bk?
L108[03:46:06] <Vexatos> No, better read single lines
L109[03:46:12] <Vexatos> and load one line at a time
L110[03:46:31] <Sulljason> true no in filesystem but i did see Lua io had that
L111[03:46:40] <Sulljason> not in*
L112[03:47:33] <Sulljason> I'm writing large quantities and have enough memory so I'll do it the lame load the whole file way
L113[03:47:50] <Sulljason> storing stuff from the geolyzer so im going to overwriting large sections
L114[03:47:57] <Sulljason> to be*
L115[03:48:19] <Sulljason> to get chunk maps to prospect for ores :D
L116[03:50:11] <Sulljason> What's the coolest thing you guys have done with OC?
L117[03:53:28] <asie> Someone made a live radio station
L118[03:53:36] <asie> streaming, generating audio and playing all in OC
L119[03:53:38] <asie> and Computronics
L120[03:53:39] <Vexatos> Sulljason, I'd say OPPM
L121[03:53:42] <asie> Vexatos: MPT*
L122[03:53:47] <asie> MPT master race
L123[03:53:52] <Vexatos> asie: The coolest thing *I* have done
L124[03:53:57] <asie> oh
L125[03:53:58] <asie> ooooh
L126[03:54:01] <asie> no
L127[03:54:04] <asie> ticket machines.
L128[03:54:08] <Vexatos> in OC
L129[03:54:33] <Vexatos> OPPM is kind of the perfect minimalistic package manager, I am really proud of it
L130[03:54:35] <asie> oh, right
L131[03:54:42] <asie> i made a 320x100 256-color image viewer
L132[03:54:45] <Vexatos> OPPM is all you need in a package manager, MPT is all you'd want in one
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L134[03:55:03] <Vexatos> So many extra features
L135[03:55:16] <Vexatos> OPPM is very minimalistic with its 16kB :P
L136[03:55:32] <Sulljason> I take it you're proud of OPPM lol
L137[03:55:40] * Izaya wants to know something, but knows if he does that he will lose motivation
L138[03:55:46] <Izaya> s/know/say
L139[03:55:46] <Kibibyte> * Izaya wants to say something, but knows if he does that he will lose motivation
L140[03:55:50] <Vexatos> Oh, I also made a simple big-reactors control program for someone
L141[03:55:59] <Vexatos> it's been running for 6 weeks now, nonstop
L142[03:56:02] <Vexatos> without breaking once
L143[03:56:14] <Izaya> https://github.com/shadowkatstudios/amie this is the coolest I've done
L144[03:56:25] <Sulljason> I think I've seen it in the Open Programs repo.
L145[03:56:41] <Vexatos> And the tape program, that probably as well
L146[03:56:46] <Vexatos> Neither are as cool as OPPM
L147[03:56:49] <Vexatos> but still quite cool
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L149[03:57:34] <Vexatos> ... why is svchost suddenly using 1.2 gigabytes
L150[03:57:43] <Izaya> 'cause Windows
L151[03:57:46] * Vexatos throws bricks at winderps
L152[03:57:52] <Vexatos> it literally just ate half of my RAM
L153[03:57:55] <Vexatos> what the what
L154[03:58:07] <Izaya> Did you try Linux yet, Vexatos? I know you said you would like, a year ago.
L155[03:58:16] <Sulljason> Host ALL the services!
L156[03:58:16] <Vexatos> And I did in August
L157[03:58:27] <Vexatos> my new, awesome computer is running Mint#
L158[03:58:34] * Sulljason is running Ubuntu after fighting OpenSUSE for to long
L159[03:58:39] <Vexatos> but I'm currently on my laptop
L160[03:58:46] <Izaya> Excellent. As it's an awesome computer, I assume it's got an NVIDIA card?
L161[03:58:52] <Vexatos> AMD
L162[03:58:54] * Izaya runs Arch
L163[03:58:55] <Izaya> eugh
L164[03:58:56] <Vexatos> I think
L165[03:59:03] <Izaya> what card?
L166[03:59:06] <Sulljason> Was fun getting the kernel seperately and adding it to the boot loader for a net install. So it took over the system like a tumor.
L167[03:59:06] <Vexatos> Uuuuuh
L168[03:59:10] <Vexatos> Let me check
L169[03:59:30] <Izaya> Sulljason, why did you go for Ubuntu, of all the avalible Debian variants? And please tell me you're not using Unity.
L170[03:59:48] <Sulljason> I used to run unity when I was a Linux noob.
L171[03:59:48] <Vexatos> Mint feels like Ubuntu++ to me :P
L172[03:59:55] <Sulljason> But i run gnome with extensions now.
L173[04:00:00] <Katie> xfce ftw.
L174[04:00:05] <Izaya> ^
L175[04:00:24] <Izaya> WindowMaker is nice on older machines, and LXDE is for when you want XFCE but can't run it
L176[04:00:26] <Katie> I run Ubuntu with XFCE, or Fedora with Gnome.
L177[04:00:27] <Sulljason> Peeking dock ftw. For a good 95% usable desktop
L178[04:00:51] <Sulljason> proper peeking always found the windows taskbar version annoying.
L179[04:00:52] <Izaya> I have 2 pixels used by my autohiding panel.
L180[04:01:09] <Vexatos> One thing I learned very early the hard way: Never update your drivers >__>
L181[04:01:23] <Izaya> Updating your drivers is good
L182[04:01:24] <Sulljason> mine uses non and I can set it to have resistence like you have to try to push off the screen
L183[04:01:29] <Izaya> except for the 340xx NVIDIA ones
L184[04:01:44] <Katie> I now have 2 esata ports.. and nothing that uses esata \o/
L185[04:01:49] <Izaya> they're sort of outdated and NVIDIA doesn't work on them any more so they cause crashes now
L186[04:01:55] <Vexatos> being a 100% linux noob, I had to command-line find the file the update corrupted and replace it (it was a broken symlink because driver update >__>)
L187[04:02:00] <Izaya> It's telling me that I need to buy a new card.
L188[04:02:13] <Sulljason> I installed the ones from the site and then they weren't very stable and the uninstaller left the kernel objects behind...
L189[04:02:14] <Izaya> Vexatos, welcome to the world of AMD on Linux
L190[04:02:37] <Vexatos> Meh, I could still replace it, I have 5-year warranty on everything
L191[04:02:53] <Vexatos> and saying "It's broken on linux" is valid enough to get you money back
L192[04:03:03] <Vexatos> and buy another one
L193[04:03:08] <Vexatos> But it was quite cheap
L194[04:03:12] <Izaya> swap out the card for a new NVIDIA
L195[04:03:14] <Vexatos> (Which is a good thing)
L196[04:03:23] <Izaya> you'll get way better performance than an AMD card
L197[04:03:28] <Izaya> and driver support is quite nice
L198[04:03:31] <Sulljason> I didn't have a problem with AMD drivers, but I havn't extensivley tested them.
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L200[04:05:10] <Sulljason> Izaya, I went with Ubuntu because it has better support and more how tos then most distros.
L201[04:05:23] <Izaya> Arch has the best wiki :P
L202[04:05:40] <Sulljason> OpenSUSE worked, but when ever I wanted to run stuff I would get the libraries but they would just refuse to work.
L203[04:05:59] <Sulljason> Compiling dolphin (the emulator) from source was a nightmare
L204[04:06:30] <Sulljason> Also no Unity to Amazon can't crawl up my butt. And gnome with a dock extension is just better.
L205[04:06:34] <Sulljason> so*
L206[04:07:04] <Vexatos> Cinnamon masterrace
L207[04:07:07] <Izaya> If I were to choose a Debian-based distro, I'd go with debian jessie (or whatever the equivelant is now because it released D: ) but whatever works for you I guess.
L208[04:07:44] <Vexatos> Izaya, pretty sure it's this one: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/R7260XDC2OC2GD5/
L209[04:08:17] <Lizzy> woop, sshing p
L210[04:08:20] <Lizzy> on phone
L211[04:08:34] <Katie> My desktop lives.. for now
L212[04:08:57] <Sulljason> I ran Debian stable on my server but the packages were never current enough for everything.
L213[04:09:01] <Izaya> Vexatos, so a 1.1Ghz 2GB version of the 260X you have has the same scores as a 1Ghz 1GB RAM GTX 750 (not Ti)
L214[04:09:06] <Lizzy> may have to he a seperate tmux session for irssi whem pn php e
L215[04:09:12] <Sulljason> I havn't tried expertimental or whatever Jessie is called
L216[04:09:32] <Katie> I run ubuntu on my servers.. because updates.
L217[04:09:50] <Izaya> Well, it's Debian, but less slowly updated.
L218[04:09:57] <Vexatos> Lizzy, thing is, it's hard to find a not-horrible GPU for €80
L219[04:10:17] <Lizzy> why was i pinged?
L220[04:10:22] <Vexatos> Izaya*
L221[04:10:25] <Vexatos> What the fridge
L222[04:10:29] <Vexatos> Sorry, Lizzy
L223[04:10:30] <Lizzy> lol
L224[04:10:33] <Vexatos> Why the ....
L225[04:10:36] <Katie> Yeah I <3 debian, but zomg some of those packages...
L226[04:10:42] <Vexatos> Not even tab-autocompletable
L227[04:11:00] <Izaya> 80eu = $110 AUD
L228[04:11:08] <Izaya> hrm, I guess it is cheaper than a 750
L229[04:11:09] <Sulljason> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4670#ov my GPU if it's a contest.
L230[04:11:15] <Sulljason> Sadly I have the 2GB model.
L231[04:11:16] <Izaya> 750 is $150 over here
L232[04:11:22] <Katie> $111 AUD = 86.93 USD.. heh
L233[04:11:36] <Izaya> A contest, you say?
L234[04:11:39] * Izaya readies his GT220
L235[04:11:53] * Katie hugs her GTX960
L236[04:11:54] <Sulljason> Katie, ya just try running Steam you'll get tons of package version mismatches.
L237[04:11:57] <Lizzy> how do i close tmux windows withput exiting the entire session?
L238[04:12:03] * Katie and her GTX560 PhysX
L239[04:12:13] <Izaya> Lizzy, like, leave the windows?
L240[04:12:20] <Lizzy> ya
L241[04:12:22] <Izaya> Ctrl-B d to detach
L242[04:12:42] <Lizzy> i meant without detaching
L243[04:13:38] <Izaya> Ctrl-B & to kill a window, apparently
L244[04:13:47] <Katie> Anyway... my bed has been calling me for 6 hours now.
L245[04:13:52] <Katie> I have to be up in... 2 hours :/
L246[04:14:15] <Sulljason> The OC config mentions CPU speed being based on function calls/sec is that Lua function calls like the core Lua libraries that everything else branches off of?
L247[04:14:44] <Lizzy> \o/ ssh session died
L248[04:14:56] <Izaya> the CPU speed is based on how many component calls a processor can do in one second
L249[04:15:00] <Lizzy> Izaya, will keep that in mind
L250[04:15:03] <Izaya> IIRC a tier 3 can do 20/sec?
L251[04:15:12] <Sulljason> But not everything is a component.
L252[04:15:26] <Izaya> Indeed.
L253[04:15:39] <Sulljason> So how does it apply to stuff like the Math libraries.
L254[04:15:41] <Izaya> You could have a super-fast filesystem sitting entirely in memory, if you wanted
L255[04:15:44] <Izaya> It doesn't.
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L257[04:16:20] <Sulljason> So stuff like that is run as full thread speed?
L258[04:16:42] <Izaya> Provided it's not shared with other computers, IIRC
L259[04:17:15] <Lizzy> In other news I can mount sftp
L260[04:17:34] <Lizzy> Shares and access them all on my phone
L261[04:17:40] <Sulljason> Good to know. Izaya
L262[04:17:42] <Lizzy> Damn send key
L263[04:18:02] <Lizzy> %p
L264[04:18:04] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Lizzy 0.58s
L265[04:18:05] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Lizzy 0.28s
L266[04:18:09] <Izaya> I want to - no, will not speak of it
L267[04:18:14] <Izaya> :x
L268[04:18:23] <Sulljason> %p
L269[04:18:26] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Sulljason 1.53s
L270[04:18:34] <Sulljason> :l well that's embarassing
L271[04:18:49] <Lizzy> Not so much
L272[04:18:57] <Kubuxu> %p
L273[04:18:58] <Sulljason> interesting that it's in seconds and not the ussual ms
L274[04:19:00] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Kubuxu 3.25s
L275[04:19:01] <Kubuxu> ^^
L276[04:19:08] <Lizzy> I had a 14s ping once
L277[04:19:18] <Sulljason> This isn't hosted in the US I take it?
L278[04:19:25] <Vexatos> %p
L279[04:19:26] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Vexatos 0.19s
L280[04:19:29] <Vexatos> Huzzah
L281[04:19:45] <Kubuxu> I have this pig all the time. This have to be something with irssi.
L282[04:20:06] <Lizzy> Sulljason, what do you mean?
L283[04:20:27] <Lizzy> Kubuxu, one of my ping replies is irssi
L284[04:20:36] <Sulljason> The IRC server isn't in the US and or doesn't have a node in the US.
L285[04:20:51] * Sulljason is from the United States.
L286[04:20:53] <Kubuxu> Lizzy, IDK why it is so high.
L287[04:21:41] <Lizzy> %p
L288[04:21:41] <Lizzy> Phone pls
L289[04:21:44] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Lizzy 3.65s
L290[04:22:21] <Lizzy> Sulljason, err. It has many in the US
L291[04:22:45] <Sulljason> Lizzy, why is my ping so high then?
L292[04:22:57] <Lizzy> s/many/many nodes
L293[04:22:57] <Kibibyte> <Lizzy> Sulljason, err. It has many nodes in the US
L294[04:23:07] <Sulljason> I'm not 100% on how IRC works.
L295[04:23:35] <Lizzy> Sulljason, crap Internet / potential connecting to a non-essential server
L296[04:24:28] <Lizzy> Also just for the record, MichiBot is in the US on a US server, I'm in the UK along with my bouncer
L297[04:24:53] <Sulljason> Welp, atleast it's fast enough for IRC (my ping).
L298[04:25:43] <Lizzy> The ping timeouts are about 3-5 mins on this net (depends on the server)
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L300[04:29:10] <Sulljason> Hm... Do the components have a throughput limit or could I speed up a geolyzer scan by having more servers in the rack querying and writing to the RAID/NAS.
L301[04:30:08] <Izaya> That's... an interesting idea.
L302[04:30:33] * Izaya was planning clustering of computers to get more threads, but had not thought of using the same component with multiple computers
L303[04:30:43] <Sulljason> I really like how the RAID mounts magically and seemlessly.
L304[04:31:27] <Sulljason> On the note of servers it doesn't seem like you get access to the memory you craft them with.
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L306[04:31:48] <Sulljason> The tier 3 takes a really expensive 3.5 mem module and having that memory would be nice :/
L307[04:32:16] <Izaya> maybe just have some allocated by default
L308[04:32:26] <Izaya> like, not enough to run OpenOS, but enough to be of some use.
L309[04:32:56] <Sulljason> I wonder where the memory went lol 3.5 tier is a lot of memory maybe the BIOS is really hungry :3
L310[04:33:12] <Izaya> drive caches
L311[04:33:20] <Izaya> and component caches, I'm sure
L312[04:33:41] <Sulljason> Ya, but that's managed by the OS.
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L314[04:34:12] <Izaya> It's a joke.
L315[04:34:12] <Sulljason> I've asked the OS for total memory and it doesn't appear available.
L316[04:34:21] <Sulljason> I know sorry.
L317[04:34:27] <Izaya> They're just used to make it absurdly expensive
L318[04:34:48] <Izaya> When will you ever need 1MB of RAM in a single stick anyway?
L319[04:34:53] <Izaya> Even OpenOS doesn't use that
L320[04:35:01] <Sulljason> Working with massive data sets.
L321[04:35:25] <Sulljason> or multiple clients it does support 8 terminals.
L322[04:36:05] <Sulljason> Which I admitely at first misinterpreted as 8 handhealds or sep screens.
L323[04:36:15] <Sulljason> was wiring cables all over our compound.
L324[04:36:41] <Sulljason> Then the second montior didn't show the terminal and I was confused.
L325[04:37:22] <dangranos> run out of components?
L326[04:37:38] <Sulljason> tier 3 server so not likley but maybe...
L327[04:38:02] <Sulljason> I'm still really new to OC. Hence my insessant questions.
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L329[04:39:13] <Krutoy242> Question: I set two acces point and they fall to infiniti cycle of relay messages. How can i fix this?
L330[04:39:53] <Sulljason> switch? I have no experience with the networking.
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L332[04:47:33] <Krutoy242> I found forum post about looping, but it was year ago
L333[04:47:34] <Krutoy242> http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/236-access-points-wirelessly-looping-messages
L334[04:47:46] <Krutoy242> Something changes from this time?
L335[04:49:23] <Sulljason> That's how it would work in the real world. You're going to have to find some way to mark the messages to ignore or notify other accesspoints as far as I can tell.
L336[04:49:38] <Sulljason> Not trying to be as mean as that sounded*
L337[04:49:52] <Sulljason> Not trying to be mean at all* -.-
L338[04:50:28] <dangranos> http://imgur.com/gallery/fHuJkHH .-.
L339[04:51:15] <Sulljason> Mod developers should get paid for their work. :/
L340[04:51:41] <Sulljason> But Valve is taking so much the mod devs have to charge more then the market will bare. So people are up in a fuss.
L341[04:51:51] <Sulljason> Its like 75% I think.
L342[04:51:51] <dangranos> but we shouldnt be forced to pay to them
L343[04:52:05] <Sulljason> To the mod devs or Valve?
L344[04:52:35] <dangranos> first includes second, i am sure not 100% goes to devs
L345[04:52:51] <Sulljason> ya only 25% does hence the crazy prices.
L346[04:53:40] <Sulljason> Why should mod developers be paid for their work? They make content using the engine just like the game studios sure their work is derivitive, but it's still hard skilled work.
L347[04:53:56] <Sulljason> Making content that provides value to and extends the life of the game you own.
L348[04:54:28] <Izaya> [izaya@nagato amie (master)]$
L349[04:54:33] <Izaya> Liking this new git magics
L350[04:54:39] <Sulljason> But Valve kinda fumbled the live grenade they came up with.
L351[04:54:48] <dangranos> i dont think skyrim would be alive for that long without mods
L352[04:55:03] <dangranos> non-paid mods, i'll notice
L353[04:55:30] <Sulljason> Ya, I agree it was pretty generic, but why shouldn't mod devs be paid?
L354[04:56:17] <Sulljason> It atleast seems like that is what you're saying.
L355[04:57:27] <Krutoy242> Mark messages good idea, but they are identical! Acces Point rely them without any info, just doublicate. I see only distance.
L356[04:57:56] <Izaya> dangranos, that gif was worth it
L357[04:57:56] <dangranos> Krutoy242, uh, maybe you have a loop somewhere?
L358[04:58:12] <dangranos> Krutoy242, also, you nick isnt cool :P
L359[04:58:14] <Sulljason> His accesspoints are cross talking.
L360[04:58:19] <Krutoy242> I playing on MC multyplayer. Someone set AP somewrene and now i cant do anything with network.
L361[04:59:17] <Krutoy242> Maybe we should forbid this block for all players?
L362[04:59:18] <Sulljason> Krutoy242: You're trying to ignore the other guys wireless messages?
L363[04:59:45] <dangranos> Krutoy242, what is that server that has OC? is it public? just asking
L364[04:59:48] <Krutoy242> Sulljason: i cant ignore, because i cant determine that they are from other guy.
L365[05:00:01] <Izaya> filter them
L366[05:00:04] <Sulljason> ^
L367[05:00:07] <Krutoy242> How to?
L368[05:00:15] <Sulljason> You can sign yours and ingore unsigned
L369[05:00:19] <dangranos> ^
L370[05:00:25] <Izaya> use a specific port, even
L371[05:00:55] <Sulljason> I havn't touched the networking (yet), but I have a little experience from Computercraft
L372[05:01:05] <Krutoy242> Wait i dont get it. What marks you about?
L373[05:01:08] <Sulljason> And ofc the real world lol.
L374[05:01:32] <Sulljason> Just add something to message saying this message is from my accesspoint.
L375[05:01:33] <Krutoy242> dangranos: yes russian public server. IC+OC. I can give link.
L376[05:01:46] <Sulljason> His wont have it so your clients can ignore his stuff.
L377[05:02:04] <dangranos> :
L378[05:02:15] <Krutoy242> Sulljason: I cant!! His AP rely absolutely identical message, with all my marks
L379[05:02:19] <dangranos> >_< forgot to switch keyboard layout
L380[05:02:57] <dangranos> Krutoy242, what about adding some random mark to messages and ignore messages that you already recieved with that mark?
L381[05:03:06] <Sulljason> So you send something and his just rebroadcasts?
L382[05:03:19] <dangranos> and make that mark to be unique for each message
L383[05:03:25] <Krutoy242> So, i send msg from tablet to server, and server got two identical messages.
L384[05:03:54] <dangranos> Krutoy242, can i get the ip and/or name (site) of the server
L385[05:04:05] <Krutoy242> dangranos: So, i need to store all random marks, in set, and comparse all, right?
L386[05:04:06] <dangranos> s/(/(or
L387[05:04:07] <Sulljason> check if the message matches the previous if so ignore?
L388[05:04:19] <dangranos> ^
L389[05:04:44] <Krutoy242> Yes, sounds like this should work.
L390[05:04:46] <dangranos> little buffer of 10 previous messages will do the job
L391[05:05:01] <Sulljason> ya if the timing doesnt sync up right for some reason.
L392[05:05:21] <dangranos> though if YOU will send same message twice it wont work in that case
L393[05:05:42] <Krutoy242> Thank you! I will try. But still, this spam will ruin networking. I will get 100 messages per second and filtering them all... This is bad ferformance.
L394[05:05:42] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L395[05:05:42] -Kibibyte- [EnderBot2] Monty Python - Spam | by zumpzump | 3m20s | 427w5d ago | 6,571,119 views | Rated: 4.91/5.00
L396[05:05:47] <Sulljason> ya what I was thinking. The wireless is handled instantaniously I think so previous will probably do.
L397[05:06:04] * dangranos slaps EnderBot2
L398[05:06:04] * EnderBot2 grabs Ender's Katana and slices dangranos in half
L399[05:06:12] *** Cruor|Away is now known as Cruor
L400[05:06:18] <dangranos> >enderbot >ender's
L401[05:06:34] * Vexatos pings Lizzy because EnderBot2 didn'
L402[05:06:36] <Vexatos> didn't*
L403[05:06:38] <Sulljason> Does the enderbot annoyingly telelport right before you hit him?
L404[05:06:41] <dangranos> Krutoy242, *totally not annoying* can i get ip?
L405[05:06:49] <dangranos> Sulljason, dunno
L406[05:07:00] <Krutoy242> dangranos: http://computercraft.ru/
L407[05:07:15] * dangranos facetables
L408[05:07:17] <Krutoy242> But we have downer admin.
L409[05:07:23] <Sulljason> Is he on the right IRC?
L410[05:07:25] <dangranos> huh?
L411[05:07:43] <Sulljason> I remember CC wireless having channels.
L412[05:07:49] * dangranos saw "launcher download" page
L413[05:08:00] <dangranos> no.. not that.. pls..
L414[05:08:13] <Krutoy242> Russian pirates?
L415[05:08:36] <dangranos> Krutoy242, a very typical
L416[05:09:02] <Sulljason> Time to work on my super computer! And blow way to many diamonds.
L417[05:09:03] <Krutoy242> This is biggers OC russian community throught.
L418[05:09:23] <dangranos> *biggest
L419[05:09:58] <Krutoy242> Im russian. I allow to make mistakes =)
L420[05:10:05] <Krutoy242> allowed*
L421[05:10:12] <dangranos> and you forgot "am" again :P
L422[05:10:33] <Vexatos> So many Russians in here
L423[05:10:40] <Krutoy242> Most important to not forget "then" and "end" keywords in code.
L424[05:10:41] <Vexatos> Many Russians, many Germans, and Izaya
L425[05:10:47] <dangranos> Vexatos, i see only 2
L426[05:10:58] <Sulljason> Ya, those lame keywords. :/
L427[05:11:04] <Vexatos> dangranos, many means more than 1
L428[05:11:12] <Vexatos> :P
L429[05:11:19] <dangranos> ._.
L430[05:11:24] <Vexatos> .-.
L431[05:11:28] <Vexatos> _._
L432[05:11:36] <Sulljason> Wonder why no one has made a computer mod that uses Python.
L433[05:11:38] <Vexatos> _.-°
L434[05:11:49] <Vexatos> Sulljason, you can make a python architecture for OC
L435[05:11:54] <dangranos> Sulljason, i think there was such issue already..
L436[05:12:03] <Krutoy242> So, didnt this "wto acces point bomb" will ruin all network in distance?
L437[05:12:20] <dangranos> uh, what?
L438[05:12:38] <Sulljason> Their fault for having poor network configurations.
L439[05:13:17] <Krutoy242> It is server. All suffer for one smart guy.
L440[05:13:26] <Sulljason> No.
L441[05:13:38] <Krutoy242> Why? How i can configure?
L442[05:13:44] <Sulljason> OpenComputers has safe guards against users hurting the physical server.
L443[05:13:58] <Sulljason> Unless you're talking in game servers.
L444[05:14:35] <dangranos> Krutoy242, IT or MT?
L445[05:14:40] <Heartstrings> no real way to sandbox python.
L446[05:14:42] <Krutoy242> IT
L447[05:14:51] <dangranos> \o/
L448[05:14:54] <Sulljason> True cause you can directly use C in it.
L449[05:15:03] <dangranos> wai.. pirate 1.7.10 ?!
L450[05:15:11] <Heartstrings> that's not the half of it. also, jython's not that good
L451[05:15:18] <Sulljason> Would need another pure scripting language, but Lua is just so dated. :/
L452[05:15:29] <dangranos> hm
L453[05:15:40] <Sulljason> And derived from BASIC :(
L454[05:15:47] <dangranos> it's stuck at authorization..
L455[05:16:16] <Sulljason> Heartstrings: so what other issues is there as far as sandboxing?
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L457[05:17:53] <dangranos> Krutoy242, so.. latest launcher (.jar one) isnt working?
L458[05:19:03] <Krutoy242> dangranos if you want to guide, i can help you in skype. Add me with same name.
L459[05:19:08] <Heartstrings> Sulljason: cpython really has no facilities for it at all. there used to be various builtin things to try to do it but that's just not effective. you might have some luck with a custom build that disabled massive chunks of the standard library, but even then there's just so much stuff builtin to it you'd have a hard time finding everything. and that's a lot to maintain
L460[05:19:24] <dangranos> Krutoy242, i dont have mic .-.
L461[05:19:30] <Heartstrings> jython *might* be a little better on that front but that's quite dated, pypy has some stuff but that's even more fun to get to from java
L462[05:19:31] <Krutoy242> I dont need mic.
L463[05:19:44] <dangranos> you do know that there is PM in irc?
L464[05:19:56] <Heartstrings> it's probably possible, just definitely not something cpython is designed to do, and it shows
L465[05:21:19] <dangranos> i think we soon will need #oc_*lang*
L466[05:24:23] <Sulljason> Heartstrings: so dealing with all that vs. just mimicing and slightly modifying the stock implimentation LJava?
L467[05:24:44] <Sulljason> JavaL? I forget the acronym.
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L469[05:24:53] <Heartstrings> modifying to do what?
L470[05:25:20] <Sulljason> I'm assuming you'ld have to tweak it a bit to work as an ingame computer emulator.
L471[05:26:31] <Heartstrings> sorry, I have no idea what you wanted to do. I just dropped in at "wonder why no computer mod using python"
L472[05:26:33] <Sulljason> But I really don't know. So python would just be much much more work with no garentee of actually sandboxing and protecting the physical server.
L473[05:26:51] *** Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off
L474[05:27:03] <Sulljason> Ya, just seemed odd that both the computer mods chose Lua over something more modern like Python.
L475[05:27:31] <Heartstrings> lua is also a lot more embed friendly; dirt simple language and implementation and much easier to hook it up to your code
L476[05:27:32] <Sulljason> But if they couldn't easily sandbox it, I see why thank you.
L477[05:27:51] <Heartstrings> lua has barely anything in it by default so really nothing to worry about
L478[05:28:07] <Sulljason> Both a blessing and a curse lol
L479[05:28:28] <Heartstrings> python has one or two good implementations, the api is complicated, you'd have to rip out a lot of it to make it safe enough, and cpython's not the greatest at being embedded
L480[05:28:34] <Sulljason> I'm from a Java background where almost everything has some standard library implimentation.
L481[05:28:50] <Heartstrings> so imagine how much of java you'd have to rip out to use that :-)
L482[05:29:30] <Heartstrings> (ignoring the security stuff, which people have tried to implement in python and always failed at due to the enormous amount of reflection. also java security never seems to work.)
L483[05:29:48] <dangranos> why luaj and native still arent two different arch?
L484[05:29:53] <dangranos> or did i missed it?
L485[05:30:50] <Sulljason> On Java security when I run applets I treat them as if they're full programs that are going to run on my system. But I do see the issue.
L486[05:31:15] <Heartstrings> well there is some java standard library stuff to sandbox code in-process
L487[05:31:21] <Heartstrings> it's just that people keep finding holes in it
L488[05:31:48] <Heartstrings> and there are games that put it to good use even
L489[05:32:19] <Sulljason> LIke Runescape lol
L490[05:32:26] <Heartstrings> robocode was fun
L491[05:33:13] <Sulljason> I like the convienence of applets, but it should be made very clear that they can go around and run amuck on your system.
L492[05:33:21] <Sulljason> But people just auto click next on warnings now :/
L493[05:34:02] <Heartstrings> kinda want a minimalistic, embeddable python, but that's no small project. eliminate some extra language features, 90% of the reflection, and 99% of the standard library
L494[05:34:08] <Heartstrings> and see how bad it is then
L495[05:34:35] <Sulljason> Basically rip out what makes Python Python?
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L497[05:35:13] <Sulljason> Just sign your broadcasts Q.Q ^
L498[05:37:22] <Heartstrings> nah, just make it smaller
L499[05:38:04] <Sulljason> Izaya: does OC have carrage return or just \n
L500[05:39:11] <Izaya> carriage return is dropped, IIRC
L501[05:39:35] <Sulljason> k thanks.
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L503[05:43:43] <dangranos> iirc asie had png to oc converter that used utf8
L504[05:43:49] <dangranos> or was it someone else?
L505[05:44:07] <asie> mine used wuarter chars
L506[05:44:12] <asie> someone elses used utf8
L507[05:44:30] <dangranos> wuarter chars?
L508[05:44:40] <dangranos> *quarter >_<
L509[05:44:44] <asie> yeah
L510[05:45:04] <dangranos> do you still have it anywhere?
L511[05:48:37] <dangranos> p
L512[05:48:38] <dangranos> .p
L513[05:48:45] <dangranos> %p
L514[05:48:47] <MichiBot> Ping reply from dangranos 0.47s
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L519[06:10:47] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Sulljason 1.36s
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L532[06:46:14] <Sulljason> Vexatos: Wb long ass unique identifier lol.
L533[06:46:58] <Vexatos> That's called IPv6
L534[06:47:05] <Vexatos> And Telecom
L535[06:47:12] <dangranos> !whois dangranos
L536[06:47:15] <dangranos> >_<
L537[06:47:20] <dangranos> you saw nothing..
L538[06:48:00] <Sulljason> Vexatos: Oh ya good point. Havn't seen many IPv6 addresses esp ones with colons. :3
L539[06:48:08] <Sulljason> without*
L540[06:48:40] <Vexatos> Weird
L541[06:48:48] <Vexatos> Apparently it changed
L542[06:49:15] <Sulljason> You're IPv6 address is so memorable!
L543[06:49:29] <Sulljason> We can remember v4 addresses v6 not so much lol
L544[06:50:23] <Vexatos> I swear it was my IP address before
L545[06:50:26] <Vexatos> not this...
L546[06:50:28] <Vexatos> whatever this is
L547[06:50:36] <dangranos> cjdns/hyperboria is so small that there was no same last (ivp6) blocks yet
L548[06:51:53] <Sulljason> Least we should never run out. I'm sure they said that before but more then trillions per person so ya...
L549[06:52:02] <Sulljason> And planets can have their own subnets lol
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L559[07:35:45] <Sandra> ah, blackmailing pahimar over twitter.
L560[07:47:16] <vifino> Mornin everyone.
L561[07:55:57] <dangranos> Sandra, huh?
L562[07:56:25] <Sandra> I had a link to the .mp4 file of episode 3 of his agrarian skies 2.
L563[07:56:33] <Sandra> so...
L564[08:00:18] <dangranos> huh?
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L573[08:38:28] <Vexatos> Help!
L574[08:38:58] <Vexatos> I cannot have printTicket be a function([slot:number] [, amount:number]) for obvious reasons, but both should be optional... Anyone have an idea how to do that?
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L576[08:46:37] * vifino hugs Lizzy and goes to do more netwing shenanigans.
L577[08:46:42] <vifino> *networking
L578[08:46:49] <vifino> ¬_¬
L579[08:46:54] <vifino> at least I tried.
L580[08:55:56] <Keridos> can somebody help me here: https://gist.github.com/Keridos/a22f0f6f3623f3d0191c I want to add in the table a way to not only give it a function to call but an argument as well
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L583[09:09:04] <Keridos> hm this is weird, there is gotta be some way to do that nice
L584[09:09:11] <Keridos> without a bazillion functions
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L631[13:11:38] <dfo> is it possible to have a regular computer, (not a robot) interact with inventories/tanks, such as looking at the level in a tank, or number of items in a chest? or do i need to use a robot for that
L632[13:14:21] <Kubuxu> ~w debug.getinfo
L633[13:14:21] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-debug.getinfo
L634[13:15:13] <ping> dfo, iirc you need a robot
L635[13:16:00] <Kubuxu> dfo: you can use uC.
L636[13:16:07] <Kodos|Zzz> What about an adapter with upgrades
L637[13:16:13] <Kubuxu> ^^
L638[13:16:48] <ping> dfo, http://ocdoc.cil.li/block:adapter
L639[13:17:34] <ping> but im not sure about the item managment
L640[13:19:16] <Magik6k> plan9k sell/getline is finally usable \o/
L641[13:19:53] <asie> >sellline
L642[13:19:55] <asie> what are you, Valve?
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L644[13:21:34] <Harkole> Evening
L645[13:22:58] <Katie> Odding
L646[13:23:14] <Harkole> ?
L647[13:23:26] <ping> :P
L648[13:25:46] <dfo> ok, i was confused about that adapter but now that makes sense, it has an inventory slot that i can put an upgrade in, correct?
L649[13:25:56] <dfo> so i could use regular computer > cable > adapter with tank controller upgrade
L650[13:25:57] <dfo> right?
L651[13:31:58] <vifino> \o/ My printer works in google cloudprint via a python script
L652[13:32:06] <Kodos|Zzz> Yes, dfo
L653[13:32:11] <vifino> Lets print a dickbutt.
L654[13:32:16] <dfo> Kodos|Zzz: thanks, playing with it now, looks like it will work
L655[13:33:12] <Kodos|Zzz> ~w tank
L656[13:33:12] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-math.tan ( I tried D: )
L657[13:33:23] <Kodos|Zzz> ~w
L658[13:33:23] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/addon ( I tried D: )
L659[13:34:10] <Kodos|Zzz> Neat, you can use a single adapter and tank controller upggrade with multiple tanks
L660[13:48:28] <Vexatos> ~w tank controller upgrade
L661[13:48:29] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/item:tank_controller_upgrade
L662[13:48:33] <Vexatos> ~w tank controller component#
L663[13:48:34] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:tank_controller
L664[13:48:37] <Vexatos> >__>
L665[13:48:57] <Skye> ~w Vexatos
L666[13:48:57] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-next ( I tried D: )
L667[13:49:03] <Skye> D:
L668[13:50:10] <Vexatos> .w Vexatos
L669[13:50:10] <^v> Vexatos, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylcyclopentadienyl_Manganese_Tricarbonyl
L670[13:50:14] <Vexatos> There you are
L671[13:51:21] <Skye> wha
L672[13:51:47] <Lizzy> .w lizzy
L673[13:51:47] <^v> Lizzy, Not found. did you want "bizzy"?
L674[13:51:50] <Lizzy> .-.
L675[13:51:55] <Lizzy> .w ender
L676[13:51:55] <^v> Lizzy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sod's_law
L677[13:51:57] <Lizzy> hehe
L678[13:52:28] <Vexatos> Sod > Murphy
L679[13:52:52] <Lizzy> Vexatos, I'm British, so it's Sods Law to me
L680[13:53:05] <Vexatos> Again, British masterrace
L681[13:53:14] <Lizzy> \o/
L682[13:53:26] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dVmpLHMsHY
L683[13:53:26] -Kibibyte- [Lizzy] Rabbid Screams 2 | by vakamatje | 1m27s | 275w2d ago | 430,109 views | Rated: 4.58/5.00
L684[13:53:31] <Vexatos> <-- learned British English from an American teacher
L685[13:53:39] <Katie> German Masterrace... oh wait, we tried that once...
L686[13:53:40] * Katie coughs
L687[13:53:47] <Vexatos> So we had "lifts" but we had "tomaytoes"
L688[13:53:56] <Vexatos> It really was strange
L689[13:53:59] <Katie> lol..
L690[13:54:12] <Vexatos> Luckily that was only primary school
L691[13:54:17] <Vexatos> grammar school had proper British
L692[13:54:56] <Skye> Yay for british english
L693[13:55:23] <Lizzy> Vexatos, be proud that you can probably speak English better and more properly than some of the British teen "thugs"
L694[13:56:41] <Vexatos> I had to tell my father how to pronounce "scissors" once, he pronounced them "skittzor"
L695[13:57:01] <Vexatos> He forgot a minute later >__>
L696[13:57:33] <Vexatos> In Germany, you have either those speaking English well (mostly with quite an accent, though, and I hate German accent)
L697[13:57:43] <Vexatos> and those who don't speak English at all
L698[13:57:50] <Vexatos> there's barely anything inbetween
L699[13:59:54] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Hmmmm
L700[14:00:58] <Skye> I feel guilty for only knowing English when I talk to people who have made an effort to learn it.
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L702[14:02:58] <Kubuxu> ~w rawset
L703[14:02:58] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-rawset
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L705[14:05:12] <Lizzy> Skye, same. I'm terrible with languages though
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L707[14:09:07] <vifino> Vexatos: I have very little accent compared to those around me :D
L708[14:16:13] * SkySom remembers Germany
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L710[14:16:26] <SkySom> The Ladies loved the American Accent
L711[14:16:35] <vifino> :v
L712[14:17:04] <Vexatos> wat
L713[14:17:20] <Vexatos> I do not want to know which kind of "Ladies" you mean
L714[14:17:27] <Vexatos> :X
L715[14:17:46] <vifino> A friend of mine went to the us for an exchange year. They made nazi jokes, calling her one, made the nazi greeting, etc.. She cried ,_,
L716[14:18:26] <Vexatos> That's pretty much it, yes
L717[14:18:39] <Vexatos> Germans in 'murica = Nazis
L718[14:18:44] <Skye> what. the. FUCK?!
L719[14:18:50] <Vexatos> 'muricans in Germany = fat
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L721[14:19:18] <Vexatos> (36% of US Americans are actually overweight, but whatever)
L722[14:19:42] <Skye> Was it northern or southern America?
L723[14:22:01] <vifino> Skye: No idea, but she cried often ,_, no one was there to give her a hug
L724[14:22:08] <vifino> Poor girl.
L725[14:23:04] <Skye> I hold the hope that northern America is more sane than southern America
L726[14:23:57] <Katie> I live in the asshole of the south us, a friend hosted a German exchange student... none of that shit happened here :/
L727[14:24:35] <Katie> I hate this state, but most of the people around here aren't like that..
L728[14:25:41] <Katie> sadly.. they hate other groups, including mine.. but hey...
L729[14:26:13] <Temia> Humans are assholes.
L730[14:26:28] <Temia> Just... goddamn.
L731[14:26:39] <Lizzy> What we need is a massive floating City, like one that exists somewhere on the outskirts of the Pegasus galaxy
L732[14:26:56] <Katie> heh
L733[14:27:00] <Katie> I'm down.
L734[14:27:11] <Temia> No, we just need to start a robot revolution and thrive in cute new full-body prostheses while the stubborn humans are thrown in the incinerator `-`
L735[14:27:16] <Skye> My mum comes from Maine, where if you don't like people near you, you are in a very bad position if bad things happen.
L736[14:27:25] <Kodos|Zzz> Temia, throw them in the tuna ovens, it's cheaper
L737[14:27:58] <Vexatos> I live in Lower Saxony, where there's actually no problem at all
L738[14:28:01] <Temia> Yeah but robots don't need to eat ' -' Though I guess nutrient cartridges for our squishy brains would be good until we could get full uploading worked out
L739[14:28:18] <Vexatos> Why does everyone in the US have to have some problem related to other people o_o
L740[14:28:51] * Skye hides from Temia
L741[14:28:58] <Katie> I'd love to get to GoTS level of tech soon :P
L742[14:29:08] <Katie> err GiTS
L743[14:29:21] <Temia> Because the US is full of hypocrites.
L744[14:29:23] <Temia> And FUD.
L745[14:29:30] <Katie> so much FUD.
L746[14:29:51] <Lizzy> Katie, tbh I'd rather ascend :P
L747[14:30:05] <Katie> Meh.. that has it's own host of issues though..
L748[14:30:30] <vifino> Well, she is alright now, so that's fine.
L749[14:30:41] <Lizzy> actually, there's not really much stopping me going into the computer system after
L750[14:30:45] <Temia> I'd just be happy with a cute modular robot body and a selection of monstergirl forms. ' w'
L751[14:30:48] <vifino> Lost contact with her a while ago, but oh well..
L752[14:31:01] <Lizzy> still
L753[14:31:20] * Lizzy wants to live in a big ass floating city that's also space flight capable
L754[14:31:41] <vifino> Lizzy: What about me? :o
L755[14:31:53] <Lizzy> vifino, you'd be with me of course
L756[14:31:53] <vifino> I want there too, sounds fun. Satelite internet though..
L757[14:32:00] <vifino> \o/
L758[14:32:14] * vifino hugs Lizzy
L759[14:32:27] <vifino> I'm a slow typer today x_x
L760[14:32:31] <Katie> No.. even better, internet via stargate.. 38 minutes almostu p foo
L761[14:32:32] <Temia> Eh, maybe we can work out a way to send serial data through a quantum entanglement link at several terahertz
L762[14:33:18] <Lizzy> Katie, 38 minutes is only there if we can't create another power source to power the gate for longer
L763[14:33:42] <Vexatos> Katie, back to the roots: Dialup internet
L764[14:33:49] <Vexatos> just.... stargate dialup
L765[14:33:54] <Katie> lol
L766[14:34:07] <Katie> HEY GET OFF THE STARGATE WE'RE EXPECTING COMPANY
L767[14:34:20] <vifino> Temia: I'd rather just go with lasers. Already did internet over lasers in test projects :D
L768[14:34:26] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z03h5mPxHk
L769[14:34:26] -Kibibyte- [Lizzy] Ancients fly away from earth with their city | by saturasus | 56s | 430w0d ago | 70,728 views | Rated: 4.80/5.00
L770[14:34:32] <vifino> Well, networking over laser.
L771[14:34:47] <Kodos|Zzz> Youtube y u so slow today
L772[14:34:57] <vifino> Basically a high speed serial link with ppp(?)
L773[14:34:58] <Lizzy> vifino, stargates only transfer matter one way, also light doesn't go through gates AFAIK
L774[14:35:09] <vifino> Hmm. :/
L775[14:35:22] <vifino> And a direct laser beam?
L776[14:35:37] <vifino> Like, floating city <-> earth?
L777[14:35:44] <Lizzy> that may work
L778[14:36:11] <Skye> Why not use radio waves?
L779[14:36:48] <Lizzy> through stargates: radio waves, city ship in orbit: lasers
L780[14:37:05] <Skye> uhh
L781[14:37:17] <Skye> Lasers from orbit. that could be dangerous.
L782[14:38:55] <vifino> Skye: Not deadly lasers .-.
L783[14:39:05] <vifino> Just high speed infrared lasers.
L784[14:39:46] <Skye> but eyeballs?
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L786[14:40:20] <vifino> Who cares about eyeballs? Geostationary orbit + self ajusting laser = win
L787[14:41:37] <vifino> Just need to make sure there is enough power behind that laser so it penetrates clouds n stuff.
L788[14:41:56] <Skye> Can it be used to blind people?
L789[14:42:35] <vifino> You can blind anything with anything .-.
L790[14:44:44] <Skye> Blind a carrot with an egg.
L791[14:44:46] <Lizzy> vifino, powering a laser like that will be trivial if we have the power to get into orbit &or huperspace
L792[14:44:59] <vifino> Mhm.
L793[14:45:20] <vifino> Apart from that, we can use the laser on the ground that is sending the data back up as a power source.
L794[14:47:02] <Lizzy> eh, wouldn't be that efficient
L795[14:47:12] <Lizzy> ZPMs and solar would be more effective
L796[14:47:59] <vifino> Yeah, but it would be a backup power source.
L797[14:48:23] <Lizzy> maybe a few low power arc reactors for day-to-day stuff so we don't drain the ZPMs with computers
L798[14:48:47] <vifino> Apart from that, we need to send up the data anyways, so the power is already there.
L799[14:48:55] <Skye> and wind up torches incase everything goes wrong
L800[14:49:23] <Lizzy> Skye, if everything goes wrong, lighting will be the least of our worries
L801[14:50:17] <Skye> well
L802[14:50:29] <Skye> and wind up life-support?
L803[14:51:03] <Lizzy> Skye, eh, the shield will be more requiring
L804[14:51:51] <Lizzy> also https://youtu.be/brFdQCpbXGY?t=54s what happens if we lose orbit and are unable to reestablish it
L805[14:51:52] -Kibibyte- [Lizzy] Stargate Atlantis Ending | by whatelyb | 2m9s | 328w0d ago | 54,382 views | Rated: 4.83/5.00
L806[14:53:50] <Skye> eep
L807[14:54:07] <Skye> hmm
L808[14:54:11] <Skye> should I get this? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00J29FF4G?keywords=microSD%20card&qid=1430250558&redirect=true&redirect=true&redirect=true&redirect=true&redirect=true&ref_=sr_1_6&sr=8-6
L809[14:54:50] <Lizzy> I have 2 of those, well ones a 32gb version which works my Pi 2 B+, the actual 64GB one is in my phone
L810[14:55:31] <vifino> Hrm. I need a pi 2 B+ soon x_x
L811[14:56:00] <Skye> My RPi runs off of two SD cards
L812[14:56:11] <Skye> one 8GB for /
L813[14:56:18] <Skye> another 16GB for /home
L814[14:58:03] * Temia has Arch ARM set up on her Tau using... a 2GB card. `o`
L815[14:58:18] * Lizzy seems to have entered hyperactive mode
L816[14:58:29] <Skye> uhoh
L817[14:58:40] * Skye starts the alarms
L818[14:58:41] * vifino seems to have entered... sleepyineedwarmth mode
L819[14:58:50] * vifino curls up on Lizzy
L820[15:02:53] <vifino> Grr... I need to set up more things x_x
L821[15:03:10] <vifino> I need to find my big devboard's psu.
L822[15:03:24] <vifino> And more ethernet cables.
L823[15:03:27] <vifino> x_x
L824[15:03:39] * vifino is always out of ethernet cables
L825[15:04:20] * Lizzy wonders how hard it'd be to break into Cheyenne Mountain
L826[15:04:41] <Katie> I'm going with Very.
L827[15:04:43] <ping> Skye, l-l the laptop that im using now is using less than 8GB
L828[15:05:01] <Skye> hehe?
L829[15:05:11] <vifino> Lizzy: What is at Cheyenne Mountain?
L830[15:05:30] <vifino> Oh, I remember.
L831[15:05:36] <ping> vifino, SG1
L832[15:05:37] <vifino> That's the SG base thingie, right?
L833[15:05:39] <ping> obviously
L834[15:05:47] <vifino> ping: ;_; pls
L835[15:06:16] * vifino does not really watch SG
L836[15:06:37] <Daiyousei> SG?
L837[15:06:43] <Lizzy> Daiyousei, Stargate
L838[15:06:47] <Daiyousei> Soni's Ga.. ogok
L839[15:06:48] <Daiyousei> ohok
L840[15:07:07] <Daiyousei> vifino, raffle is up m8
L841[15:07:25] <vifino> Daiyousei: !
L842[15:07:27] <ping> SG = sonis gayporncollection
L843[15:07:34] <vifino> Daiyousei: lost link :<
L844[15:07:38] <Daiyousei> https://scrap.tf/raffles/QVNE9M
L845[15:07:39] <Daiyousei> k
L846[15:07:40] <vifino> also am not at site
L847[15:07:46] <Daiyousei> login through steam
L848[15:07:46] <Daiyousei> gg
L849[15:07:46] <Daiyousei> ez
L850[15:07:47] <Lizzy> vifino, the entire talk about a floating city on the outskirts of the Pegasus galaxy that's space capable was all about SG :P
L851[15:08:07] <vifino> Lizzy: I know that part :D
L852[15:08:17] <Lizzy> vifino, coolio
L853[15:09:30] <Lizzy> I wonder what would happen if i put my laptop in the freezer for a bit then tried booting it
L854[15:09:43] <vifino> o_O
L855[15:10:37] <vifino> Well, probably would just work normally.
L856[15:11:01] <Lizzy> might try it at the weekend.....
L857[15:11:05] <Keridos> Lizzy: when in too long it might get wet
L858[15:11:11] <Keridos> since ice might form inside it
L859[15:11:22] <Lizzy> Keridos, i wouldn't put it in for too lon
L860[15:11:25] <Lizzy> long*
L861[15:11:32] <Keridos> yeah
L862[15:11:38] <Keridos> to be safe maybe put it in a sealed bag
L863[15:11:49] <Keridos> does it crash due to overheating?
L864[15:11:54] <Lizzy> nope
L865[15:12:01] <Lizzy> just wondering what would happen
L866[15:12:24] <Keridos> ah^^
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L868[15:16:34] <Lizzy> err, okay so my laptop's gone into panic mode after i tried changing brightness....
L869[15:17:13] <Temia> Panic mode? >.>
L870[15:17:37] <Lizzy> well, everything froze and the CPU fan decided to go nuts
L871[15:18:01] <Temia> Ah
L872[15:18:05] <Lizzy> it had resumed from a hibernate so i guess the ACPI stuff was a bit out of wack
L873[15:18:07] <ping> Temia, when the kernel crashes it goes into "panic mode"
L874[15:18:29] <Temia> No, ping, that's a kernel panic. panic mode is an entirely different phrase P
L875[15:18:33] <ping> wot
L876[15:18:58] <Skye> %p ping
L877[15:18:59] <MichiBot> Ping reply from ping 0.42s
L878[15:19:02] <Temia> Mode indicates it's a user-accessible state, but unless it breaks out into kdb it isn't, really
L879[15:19:03] <Skye> hehehehehe
L880[15:19:05] <Lizzy> dafuq? what is my pc doing?
L881[15:19:14] <Temia> Then again there's also Emergency Mode. >..
L882[15:19:14] <Temia> >.>
L883[15:19:29] <ping> my fan goes full speed and the capslock blinks when it panics
L884[15:19:42] <Temia> ...Interesting. o.o
L885[15:19:43] <Lizzy> okay... went to play a video, display driver crashed then firefox crashed.....
L886[15:20:01] <ping> Lizzy, lspci/lsmod?
L887[15:20:05] <Temia> I wonder what's driving the capslock switch.
L888[15:20:09] <Lizzy> ping, ?
L889[15:20:17] <ping> Lizzy, windows?
L890[15:20:18] <Temia> Usually a system just... halts.
L891[15:20:21] <Lizzy> ping, yes
L892[15:20:23] <Temia> .-.
L893[15:20:24] <ping> :/
L894[15:21:09] <ping> well good luck, debugging hardware issues is almost impossible on windows
L895[15:21:44] <Lizzy> ping, i think it was a one off. Am also suprised FF hasn't crashed multiple times because it's on a drive that likes to spin down a lot
L896[15:21:53] <ping> ._.
L897[15:21:55] <Temia> .-.
L898[15:22:00] <ping> your drive randomly spins down?
L899[15:22:00] <Lizzy> might look into getting myself a high-end laptop so I'm not using my work one for personal stuff
L900[15:22:01] <Temia> Usually if a program's accessing a spun down drive...
L901[15:22:07] <Temia> It just... blocks until it spins back up?
L902[15:22:10] <ping> ^
L903[15:22:17] <Lizzy> Temia, most of the time
L904[15:22:20] <Temia> Which can be annoying if the program isn't multithreaded.
L905[15:22:43] <ping> Temia, or just uses async IO .-.
L906[15:22:45] <Lizzy> ping, the drive FF is on is one from one of those HDD enclosures
L907[15:22:54] <Temia> Most of the time? The only time it doesn't is when the file descriptor is invalidated and the application can't handle it, I'd think
L908[15:23:05] <Temia> Which is... entertaining when it does happen.
L909[15:23:21] <Temia> Ever had an SSD drop out from long periods of high load?
L910[15:23:29] <ping> Lizzy, is it a brown-out?
L911[15:23:29] <Temia> When most of your programs are on it?
L912[15:23:33] <Temia> It's entertaining.
L913[15:24:08] <Temia> (also fun: trying to update the firmware on said SSD without Windows)
L914[15:24:10] <Lizzy> ping, no, it's an eco-esk drive, if it's being accessed it'll stay up, if it idles it'll power down till something accesses it again (usually FF)
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L917[15:26:00] <Lizzy> there are 2 other hdds in this computer but my dad suggested me using the 3rd for my games and stuff which take up lots of space in backups
L918[15:26:00] <ping> .-. why doesnt it just spin down the disk instead of completely turning off I/O
L919[15:26:12] <Lizzy> ping, ?
L920[15:26:30] <Lizzy> when i say power down i mean spin-down
L921[15:26:47] <Lizzy> as soon as something tries to access it, it spins right back up
L922[15:27:01] <Temia> Sounds like some aggressive caching may be needed
L923[15:27:24] <ping> or just disable that feature :v
L924[15:27:31] <Lizzy> ping, i've tried
L925[15:28:19] <Temia> ...muh x.x
L926[15:28:38] <Temia> I've got math stuff to cram on and coding stuff to brush up on and I'm too sleepy to do either
L927[15:28:39] <Lizzy> it doesn't bother me too much
L928[15:30:34] <Temia> ...oh.
L929[15:30:38] <Temia> exam's on thursday apparently.
L930[15:30:39] <Temia> hm.
L931[15:33:12] <Lizzy> my firefox is doing a weird thing with it's image render
L932[15:33:40] <Lizzy> for instance going to youtube: one video's thumbnail will be on all the other videos
L933[15:33:48] <Lizzy> until i hover over it
L934[15:36:27] <Lizzy> :/ pc just froze up.....
L935[15:36:39] <Lizzy> .-. i am cursed
L936[15:37:40] <Lizzy> .....
L937[15:37:45] <Lizzy> :(
L938[15:38:05] <Lizzy> had to reset pc
L939[15:38:23] <Lizzy> by that i mean press the reset button
L940[15:40:26] <Skye> yikes
L941[15:40:36] <Pwootage> awesome, the webfilter is ded at school
L942[15:40:40] <Pwootage> can't access anything
L943[15:40:45] <SkySom> by that I mean percussive maintenance
L944[15:40:47] <Lizzy> lol
L945[15:40:55] <Pwootage> (over 443 or 80, every other port is absolutely fine)
L946[15:41:29] <Lizzy> .-. one of the HDDs in this pc is loud
L947[15:41:38] <ping> Lizzy, ;-;
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L950[15:47:46] <Lizzy> anyway, back to working on EnderBot3
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L960[16:18:00] <ping> how to paste text ;-;
L961[16:18:16] <gamax92> EsperNet is apparently the Gaming and Furry network
L962[16:18:23] <ping> gamax92, yep
L963[16:18:27] <gamax92> ping: ctrl-shift-insert
L964[16:18:50] <Temia> More like the Minecraft/Furry network.
L965[16:18:58] <Temia> ...Actually I'm surprised there's still a furry quotient.
L966[16:19:05] <Temia> I figured that'dve died too.
L967[16:19:13] ⇦ Quits: EnderBot2 (EnderBot2@heyo.theender.net) (Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
L968[16:19:15] <Temia> Along with the old IRC RPG community that hung out here.
L969[16:19:26] <Temia> ...man, I feel old.
L970[16:19:36] <gamax92> Temia: Are you wine?
L971[16:19:41] <gamax92> Because then you get better with age
L972[16:19:42] <Temia> No.
L973[16:19:46] ⇦ Quits: Lizzy (Lizzy@heyo.theender.net) (Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
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L975[16:19:55] <Temia> I'm corned beef `-`
L976[16:20:04] * gamax92 is not a fan of beef
L977[16:20:13] <Temia> Good.
L978[16:20:15] ⇦ Quits: LordFokas|off (LordFokas@heyo.theender.net) (Ping timeout: 378 seconds)
L979[16:20:29] <Temia> Because I'd give you axeitis. It's a terrible affliction where axeblades find themselves embedded in you
L980[16:20:41] <Temia> Because I'm BEEF GONE BAD `-`
L981[16:20:48] <ping> gamax92, :v nope just insert
L982[16:20:52] * gamax92 licks Temia and then hides in a cardboard box
L983[16:20:56] <Temia> ...idk I am like half-dead and need more coffee than is physically possib--
L984[16:20:57] <gamax92> ping: no its ctrl-shift-insert
L985[16:21:10] * Temia ships Gamax off to Timbuktu.
L986[16:21:18] <ping> gamax92, ctrl-shift-insert does nothing, just insert pastes
L987[16:21:18] * gamax92 ships self back to #oc
L988[16:21:24] <gamax92> ping: bitch please.
L989[16:21:26] <ping> debian/cinnamon
L990[16:21:32] <gamax92> do you really want me to fire up my computer,
L991[16:21:34] <gamax92> and test it
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L993[16:21:59] <Temia> Yeah, his computer's more power-hungry than a positron rifle
L994[16:22:05] <Temia> That's what he gets for overclocking a P4
L995[16:22:15] <gamax92> Temia: I used to have a overclocked P4 .-.
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L997[16:22:49] <Temia> Did you fry eggs on it? `o`
L998[16:22:58] <gamax92> Temia: no
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L1000[16:23:19] <gamax92> Temia: Sorry to give your dreams up for sale on ebay and then give you back none of the profit
L1001[16:23:49] <Temia> I'm surprised it didn't get taken off the listings for obscenity.
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L1012[16:25:52] <Lizzy> er
L1013[16:25:55] <Lizzy> what happened
L1014[16:26:10] <Katie> lots of ping timeouts
L1015[16:26:14] <Katie> all from heyo
L1016[16:26:39] <Katie> heyo split on PCL too
L1017[16:26:42] <Lizzy> guess that'll be the network maintenance DO were emailing about
L1018[16:26:51] <Katie> lol
L1019[16:26:53] <Katie> \o/
L1020[16:27:06] <Katie> I just did something I was hoping I wouldn't have to do... ¬_¬
L1021[16:27:12] <Lizzy> ?
L1022[16:27:20] <Katie> I just started a gofundme
L1023[16:27:33] <ping> http://i.imgur.com/35wQ1fj.png
L1024[16:29:25] <Lizzy> oh look, irssi on Anquietas reconnected to heyo
L1025[16:29:55] <Lizzy> also did all the users from my bouncer time out or was it just a few?
L1026[16:30:09] <Katie> all
L1027[16:30:17] <Lizzy> huh, enderbot2 died
L1028[16:32:00] <Lizzy> gonna leave it a bit to see if it reconnects on it's own
L1029[16:32:07] <Lizzy> ok
L1030[16:32:47] <Lizzy> oh shit anquietas's connection is going now
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L1032[16:33:21] zsh sets mode: +v on EnderBot2
L1033[16:33:40] <gjgfuj> hooray for connection problems.
L1034[16:33:43] <gjgfuj> Lizzy, fix your bouncer.
L1035[16:33:45] *** gjgfuj is now known as Sandra
L1036[16:34:04] <Lizzy> Sandra, not my fault, DO doing network operations
L1037[16:34:22] ⇦ Quits: EnderBot2 (EnderBot2@heyo.theender.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
L1038[16:34:23] <Lizzy> in fact the bouncer coped rather well
L1039[16:34:28] <Lizzy> ffs enderbot2
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L1042[16:35:05] <Lizzy> Skye, you around?
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L1044[16:35:36] ⇦ Quits: EnderBot2 (EnderBot2@heyo.theender.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
L1045[16:35:49] <Lizzy> ....
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L1048[16:35:58] * Katie pokes EnderBot2
L1049[16:36:03] <Lizzy> wait
L1050[16:36:15] <Sandra> DO?
L1051[16:36:20] <Katie> Digital Ocean
L1052[16:36:24] <Sandra> well I lost my nick but eh.
L1053[16:36:25] <Katie> the provider of the VPS.
L1054[16:36:26] <Lizzy> ohh, i think i have it connecting to 2 networks and when one dies the other gets erroed
L1055[16:36:44] <Lizzy> Specifically the provider of Heyo and Anquietas
L1056[16:36:52] <Lizzy> the latter has yet to return
L1057[16:36:52] <Sandra> oh okay.
L1058[16:36:59] ⇦ Quits: EnderBot2 (EnderBot2@heyo.theender.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
L1059[16:37:04] <Lizzy> .-.
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L1062[16:37:40] <Sandra> oh Enderbot2.
L1063[16:38:09] <Lizzy> it's esper side is fine
L1064[16:38:31] * Katie sets modes (#oc +b EnderBot2@*)
L1065[16:38:33] <Katie> :P
L1066[16:38:39] ⇦ Quits: EnderBot2 (EnderBot2@heyo.theender.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
L1067[16:38:51] <Sandra> doesn't look fine to me.
L1068[16:38:57] <Lizzy> .-. okay, lets tell it to connect directly to Thor
L1069[16:39:06] <Lizzy> or not, anquietas is back
L1070[16:39:39] <Lizzy> Sandra, it's connecting here fine but the way i start 2 instances of the bot for different network brings them both down when one dies
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L1073[16:40:29] <Lizzy> there, connected both sides
L1074[16:41:12] <Lizzy> also haha, ssh session from laptop to Anquietas resumed with no hiccups
L1075[16:42:21] <Lizzy> hehe,
L1076[16:42:48] <Lizzy> i like how Nano managed to sync back with Anquietas just after Anquietas synced up with heyo
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L1078[16:43:16] <Temia> nano?
L1079[16:43:19] <Temia> Nano nano nano? :o
L1080[16:43:24] <Lizzy> Temia, Skye's Pi
L1081[16:43:31] <Katie> Also, and IRC server :P
L1082[16:43:36] <Katie> s/and/an/
L1083[16:43:36] <Kibibyte> <Katie> Also, an IRC server :P
L1084[16:43:38] <Temia> Is it named after the robot? 'w'
L1085[16:43:46] <Lizzy> <anquietas.thedarkirc.co> LINK: Verified incoming server connection inbound from *REDACTED* (Hakase! Nano! Hakase! Nano! Hakase!)
L1086[16:43:50] <Temia> :D!
L1087[16:43:53] <Temia> <3
L1088[16:46:12] <gamax92> Temia! Temia? Temia! Temia?
L1089[16:46:22] <Temia> Moo .o.
L1090[16:46:53] <Lizzy> k, that's EnderBot3 stuff pushed to my GitLab, now to shower and bed
L1091[16:47:42] <gamax92> Temia: why are you always upside down?
L1092[16:48:10] <Temia> Because I flop over a lot. .w.
L1093[16:48:24] <gamax92> Temia: would you like a cookie?
L1094[16:48:32] * PotatoZZZ drinks some coffee
L1095[16:48:34] <Temia> Please? It's been a crummy day for me.
L1096[16:48:37] *** PotatoZZZ is now known as PotatoTrumpet
L1097[16:48:43] * gamax92 gives Temia a butter cookie
L1098[16:48:48] * Temia nibbles.
L1099[16:48:52] * PotatoTrumpet gives Temia a snickerdoodle cookie
L1100[16:48:57] * Temia !! nibbles! <3
L1101[16:48:58] <gamax92> I WANNA SNICKERDOODLE
L1102[16:49:06] <gamax92> askdjsakdjasdkajsdksdjask
L1103[16:49:09] * gamax92 dies
L1104[16:49:17] <Lizzy> Katie, feel free to shuffle the network round again after 3:00 UTC cause that's when the maintenance should be over
L1105[16:49:20] * PotatoTrumpet throws snickerdoodle cookie box on gamax92
L1106[16:49:26] * gamax92 is still dead
L1107[16:49:45] <gamax92> Katie: !!! you log our keys !!!
L1108[16:49:50] * PotatoTrumpet puts gamax92 in Lizzys meat locker
L1109[16:49:57] <Katie> gamax92, wat?
L1110[16:49:59] <gamax92> Why does Lizzy have a meat locker
L1111[16:50:05] <gamax92> Katie: I'm sorry carry on.
L1112[16:50:20] <Katie> o_O
L1113[16:50:25] <Lizzy> gamax92, oh.... you found that..... hmmm..... shit......
L1114[16:50:25] <Katie> so confuse
L1115[16:50:30] * Lizzy runs to the hills
L1116[16:50:35] * Lizzy runs for her life
L1117[16:50:51] <gamax92> Lizzy: no PotatoTrumpet did
L1118[16:51:01] <Temia> ... eeeeeeeeee
L1119[16:51:08] <Temia> the college cafeteria had a snickerdoodle cookie left <3
L1120[16:51:10] <Lizzy> still
L1121[16:51:16] <PotatoTrumpet> Lizzy, listning to some iron maiden?
L1122[16:51:20] * Temia nibblenibblenibble. Tailswishes. <3
L1123[16:51:21] * Lizzy continues runing to the hills
L1124[16:51:21] <Katie> Thanks Lizzy now I have to play that
L1125[16:51:26] <Lizzy> Katie, <3
L1126[16:51:30] <PotatoTrumpet> <3
L1127[16:51:40] <Lizzy> PotatoTrumpet, yes, my brain started playing it
L1128[16:51:49] <Lizzy> anyway
L1129[16:51:54] <PotatoTrumpet> thatway
L1130[16:51:54] <Lizzy> Lizzy! SHOWER!
L1131[16:52:01] <Lizzy> okay, me
L1132[16:52:01] <PotatoTrumpet> PotatoTrumpet! KSP!
L1133[16:52:13] <PotatoTrumpet> okay, me
L1134[16:52:37] <vifino> Lizzy! \o/
L1135[16:52:44] * vifino hugs Lizzy <3
L1136[16:52:44] <gamax92> Temia: our college "cafe" has overpriced food you can find in a walmart currently being built across the street for half price.
L1137[16:52:50] <Katie> PotatoTrumpet, I still can't get the fucking launcher to download 1.0
L1138[16:52:58] <Katie> I just went to the site and grabbed the 1.0 zip :/
L1139[16:53:02] <Temia> Ouch.
L1140[16:53:03] <vifino> I were talking to my mom, she is a nice person.
L1141[16:53:06] <Katie> then I remembered how much I suck at KSP.
L1142[16:53:25] <gamax92> Their pizza they server there is a small sized pizza with huge crusts
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L1144[16:53:30] <gamax92> i.e not really that much pizza
L1145[16:53:39] <PotatoTrumpet> Katie, I changed my thing from the download to steam
L1146[16:53:41] <PotatoTrumpet> kinda regret it
L1147[16:53:42] <vifino> Did Lizzy go to bed already? :(
L1148[16:53:47] <PotatoTrumpet> vifino, shopwer
L1149[16:53:49] * vifino sad
L1150[16:53:54] <gamax92> vifino: lizzy is making herself clean for you.
L1151[16:53:56] <Katie> Yeah I'm very glad I don't have it on steam.
L1152[16:54:14] <vifino> Well, okay then '.'
L1153[16:54:24] * vifino silently waits for Lizzy
L1154[16:55:15] <gamax92> oh btw vifino, have you done anything with threading for lua
L1155[16:55:26] <gamax92> like you know, actual threading and stuff.
L1156[16:55:33] <vifino> Uh, yeah, I guess.
L1157[16:55:41] <vifino> There is leviator.
L1158[16:55:56] <gamax92> I'm pretty sure lua lanes is hated by a bunch but its channel/lanes concept seems perfect for what i want
L1159[16:55:57] <vifino> Is basically luajit + bindings to states n funstuffs
L1160[16:56:12] <gamax92> vifino: will prefer not luajit stuff
L1161[16:56:13] <vifino> and you have access to the state currently running your code...
L1162[16:56:19] <vifino> .-. k
L1163[16:56:27] <gamax92> even if it runs in luaffi, its not going to be jitted
L1164[16:56:29] <vifino> I didn't make that stuff.
L1165[16:56:36] <gamax92> so something that is a C solution will be faster
L1166[16:56:44] <vifino> I mostly only work with luajit .-.
L1167[16:56:45] <gamax92> (even though im using luaffi sdl2 .-.)
L1168[16:57:31] <gamax92> luasdl2 was not working well for what I needed, which was pixel access
L1169[16:57:34] <vifino> .-. either my pi really hates me or it's using 50% cpu doing nothing
L1170[16:57:37] <gamax92> the entire pixel access stuff was unimplemented
L1171[16:57:53] <vifino> htop pls
L1172[16:58:11] <vifino> Oh, wait. cloudprint
L1173[16:58:14] <gamax92> also i have no idea how sdl2 resolution changing works, when i resize the window instead of cropping it stretches
L1174[16:58:21] <gamax92> vifino: CUPS?
L1175[16:58:29] <gamax92> 2 printers 1 CUPS
L1176[16:58:32] <vifino> gamax92: yes, cups + cloudprint
L1177[16:58:32] <gamax92> (I'm sorry)
L1178[16:58:57] <Lizzy> Eh, fuck it I'll have a shower in the morning /famouslastwords
L1179[16:58:59] <vifino> I run cups and cloudprint on my pi.
L1180[16:59:03] <vifino> Lizzy!! \o/
L1181[16:59:07] * vifino hugs Lizzy <3
L1182[16:59:10] <gamax92> welcome back Lizzy
L1183[16:59:19] <Lizzy> vifino! \o/
L1184[16:59:30] * Lizzy hugs vifino
L1185[16:59:31] <vifino> I didn't miss you before you go to bed! \o/
L1186[16:59:50] <Lizzy> Well, I'm in bed now available
L1187[16:59:58] <Lizzy> Phone why?
L1188[17:00:03] <vifino> ... Actually, you are on your phone, right?
L1189[17:00:06] <Lizzy> Ye
L1190[17:00:10] <vifino> Well, okay '.'
L1191[17:00:30] * vifino silently follows Lizzy
L1192[17:00:44] <Lizzy> I would say ctcp version me but I think my bouncer replies with something
L1193[17:01:01] <Katie> -Notice- {from Lizzy} VERSION NO.
L1194[17:01:03] <gamax92> When Lizzy says she is on her phone, she means she is sitting on top of her phone
L1195[17:01:11] <vifino> -- | CTCP reply from Lizzy: VERSION NO.
L1196[17:01:18] <Lizzy> Hehe
L1197[17:01:38] <vifino> In soviet russia, phones sit on you!
L1198[17:01:45] * vifino is sorry :[
L1199[17:02:00] <Lizzy> Currently laying next to phone
L1200[17:02:43] * Lizzy should sleep
L1201[17:02:50] * vifino cuddles Lizzy <3
L1202[17:03:01] <vifino> Pi stahp exploding D:
L1203[17:03:04] * Lizzy waits for vifino
L1204[17:03:09] <vifino> :o
L1205[17:03:44] * vifino follows Lizzy :3
L1206[17:04:18] <Lizzy> I'm in mah bed, come join me
L1207[17:04:27] * vifino joins Lizzy :3
L1208[17:04:29] <Temia> lewd
L1209[17:04:33] <gamax92> Temia: agreed
L1210[17:04:50] <Lizzy> Temia <3 :P
L1211[17:04:56] <gamax92> Aww, cute
L1212[17:05:02] <Temia> moo? .w.
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L1214[17:06:04] * Lizzy snuggles up to vifino and falls asleep
L1215[17:06:24] * vifino pets Lizzy and falls asleep himself
L1216[17:06:32] * Lizzy zzz
L1217[17:06:41] * gamax92 watches outside your window
L1218[17:07:12] * Skye kicks the ladder from under gamax92's feet
L1219[17:08:13] <gamax92> vifino: oh btw, is it possible to combine lua libraries into one library?
L1220[17:08:28] <vifino> gamax92: C libraries or lua libraries?
L1221[17:08:31] <gamax92> like, instead of having a utf8 lib and a threading lib and a lib for sdl and a lib for filesystem
L1222[17:08:41] <gamax92> those are C libraries
L1223[17:08:46] <vifino> Then no.
L1224[17:08:50] <gamax92> Fuck.
L1225[17:09:00] <gamax92> imma ask in #love
L1226[17:09:06] <vifino> You could most likely paste them together, but there is no tool to automagically do it.
L1227[17:09:20] <vifino> s/together/$0 somehow/
L1228[17:09:20] <Kibibyte> <vifino> You could most likely paste them together somehow, but there is no tool to automagically do it.
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L1232[17:25:07] <jdmiller82> hello!
L1233[17:25:16] <ping> hi
L1234[17:26:06] <jdmiller82> I wanted to know if anyone had some programs related to robots they'd be willing to share
L1235[17:26:13] <jdmiller82> or know of a good resource
L1236[17:26:27] <ping> openprograms.github.io has some robot programs
L1237[17:26:34] <ping> and documentation is at ocd.cil.li
L1238[17:27:10] <jdmiller82> yeah, I've looked at the documentation... I'll check git
L1239[17:27:11] <jdmiller82> thanks
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L1246[17:42:41] <Katie> -Notice- {from NickServ} Information on Michibot (account Michibot):
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L1248[17:42:49] <Katie> Happy Birthday MichiBot! \o/
L1249[17:47:18] <vifino> Happy BDay, MichiBot! \o/
L1250[17:49:31] <ow> wow! Happy Birthday MichiBot
L1251[17:49:48] <vifino> s/^w//
L1252[17:49:48] <Kibibyte> <ow> ow! Happy Birthday MichiBot
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L1255[17:58:39] <jdmiller82> Feliz Cumpleanos
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L1257[18:02:41] <Keridos> wow lua is making me crazy
L1258[18:03:20] <Keridos> https://gist.github.com/Keridos/c85a90312fccb2e30d18
L1259[18:03:57] <Keridos> can somebody help me here, this is crashing with line43 in mofarm.lua due to getButtonStatus being a nil value
L1260[18:04:12] <Keridos> that is weird since I defined it in the API; what did i do wrong
L1261[18:11:35] <Keridos> anybody able to help here?
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L1263[18:20:09] <Keridos> wow that was weird
L1264[18:20:18] <Keridos> had to restart the computer, somehow it got bugged apparently
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L1267[18:28:11] <Keridos> anyone here still?
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L1269[18:30:01] <ping> Keridos, ill halp
L1270[18:30:23] <Keridos> ah looks as if i managed to solve all problem
L1271[18:30:25] <Keridos> s
L1272[18:30:38] <Keridos> just a single question, OC uses topleft on screen as 0,0?
L1273[18:30:45] <ping> yes
L1274[18:30:51] <Keridos> ok thanks
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L1319[23:03:46] <Daiyousei> best bot
L1320[23:03:54] <gamax92> ocdoc wtf are you doing
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L1329[23:09:18] <Temia> Malfunction! Need input!
L1330[23:10:13] * gamax92 wonders if Temia would understand anything of gamax92's current as of 30 minutes ago achievements
L1331[23:10:30] * Temia moos? .w.
L1332[23:10:44] <gamax92> y u sad face i haven't even said anything yet
L1333[23:11:07] <Temia> Because I just woke up.
L1334[23:12:35] <Temia> So, uh, what is this about achievements? .-
L1335[23:12:36] <Temia> .-.
L1336[23:13:33] <gamax92> So, I put a SoundBlaster Live! card into my computer and found out it can mix 32 streams in hardware, and do hardware midi synthesizing
L1337[23:13:50] <gamax92> So I've killed pulseaudio and removed timidity
L1338[23:14:31] <Temia> Ah.
L1339[23:15:21] <Temia> I actually used to mess around with MIDI music a lot back when I played with RPG Maker 2000, and noticed a difference in dropped channels in software synth compared to the Live! card I had back then too.
L1340[23:15:31] <Temia> So yeah, pretty cool o:
L1341[23:15:49] <gamax92> the wavetable seems to not be playing back properly >_>
L1342[23:15:52] <Temia> ...Come to think of it, the local computer recycling facility has, like, a box full of SB Live! cards.
L1343[23:16:21] <Temia> Hm. o.o Got any weird soundfonts installed?
L1344[23:16:39] <gamax92> what ever 8MBGMSFX.SF2 is
L1345[23:16:54] <gamax92> my normal one is too large for the card (by a few megabytes D:)
L1346[23:17:20] <Temia> That... sounds like a nonstandard soundfont, yeah. Already came with it?
L1347[23:17:35] <gamax92> no its not the one that would have shipped with it
L1348[23:18:15] <Temia> ...wait a sec. 8MBGMSFX.SF2 is an 8.3 filename ._. fuck.
L1349[23:19:00] <gamax92> oh nvm, its just this midi apparently
L1350[23:19:05] <gamax92> all of the other ones play fine
L1351[23:19:22] <gamax92> the one in question was like, playing twice with a slight delay between the two
L1352[23:20:14] <Temia> Ah.
L1353[23:20:28] <Temia> o.O
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L1355[23:26:53] <gamax92> Temia: also, rpg maker?
L1356[23:27:33] <Temia> Oh, yeah. Old hobby development tool that circulated on the internet way back when.
L1357[23:28:11] <gamax92> Apologizes for asking but how old are you ...
L1358[23:28:25] <Temia> 25. >.>
L1359[23:28:29] <gamax92> oh okay
L1360[23:28:44] <Temia> What did you think I was going to say? <.<
L1361[23:28:55] <gamax92> 87
L1362[23:29:01] <Temia> :T
L1363[23:29:03] <gamax92> (im kidding)
L1364[23:29:12] * Temia headbumps warningly!
L1365[23:29:19] * gamax92 dies
L1366[23:29:22] <Temia> ._.
L1367[23:29:26] <Temia> welp
L1368[23:29:32] <Temia> I guess I'm moe enough to kill.
L1369[23:29:40] <gamax92> a headbump is cute?
L1370[23:29:41] <gamax92> oh
L1371[23:29:56] <gamax92> s
L1372[23:30:10] <gamax92> see when i imagine a headbump i imagine a bull charging at you or somehing
L1373[23:30:14] <Temia> No.
L1374[23:30:16] <Temia> That's a headbutt.
L1375[23:30:20] <gamax92> oh okay
L1376[23:31:33] <gamax92> Temia: btw from the moment I asked if you'd understand that whole thing, I started downloading a 32mb soundfont
L1377[23:31:35] <gamax92> it has just now finished
L1378[23:31:43] <gamax92> (my internet speed is great!)
L1379[23:31:50] <Temia> Sounds like my interbutts.
L1380[23:32:27] <gamax92> aww fuck you asfxload, it ran out of memory for it.
L1381[23:32:49] <gamax92> it was even listed as sb live compat
L1382[23:33:30] <Temia> Probably a later model.
L1383[23:33:40] <gamax92> no they all do 32mb max
L1384[23:33:46] <Temia> Hm .w.
L1385[23:33:48] <Temia> Weird.
L1386[23:34:09] <gamax92> its even below 32MiB in size ._.
L1387[23:34:54] <Temia> This is after you deleted the one that was on it, I assume >.>
L1388[23:35:39] <gamax92> I ... have to do that? :X
L1389[23:36:30] <Temia> Probably .-. Can you copy it off the card?
L1390[23:37:08] <gamax92> I have no clue what I'm doing, the card never worked in the old board for some reason so I've not used it until now
L1391[23:38:18] <gamax92> "DRAM memory left = 131068 kB" ._.
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L1393[23:43:45] <gamax92> Temia: oh ... apparently its because of a bug in the card that causes it to not work in environments over 2GB of memory, where the linux kernel works around this by using 16MB ISA memory which well ... is < 32MB
L1394[23:43:59] <Temia> Ahh.
L1395[23:44:00] <Temia> That sucks.
L1396[23:44:31] <Temia> The faults of legacy rear their ugly head. ._.
L1397[23:45:34] <gamax92> ye, "hardware can only support DMA from the lowest 2GB of memory because it simply ignores bit 31 of the address."
L1398[23:47:23] <gamax92> oh and that weird 8.3 sf2 i mentioned is apparently the sf2 that would have shipped with a sb live card
L1399[23:49:57] <Temia> Ah
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