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L11[00:58:09] <Izaya> o/
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L47[03:37:39] <^v> [OpenComputers] http://git.io/pGX0 Vanhal commented on issue ( 1.8 RF )
L48[03:37:39] <^v> [OpenComputers] http://git.io/pGXR Vanhal closed issue ( 1.8 RF )
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L55[04:04:37] <^v> [OpenComputers] http://git.io/pGS2 fnuecke commented on issue ( 1.8 RF )
L56[04:05:55] <Izaya> I love seeing issue threads like that, it's just so... cooperative
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L59[04:11:39] <Kubuxu> Izaya: Yeah. It is awesome in contrast with rest of the internet.
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L62[04:23:32] <Izaya> http://shadowkat.tk/network/ :D Everything is updated (not all things have pages, but hey, it works, and I have all the hosts down.)
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L72[05:52:47] <Sangar> who was it again that reported the memory leak issue recently? Kubuxu?
L73[05:53:03] <Kubuxu> Yeah
L74[05:53:58] <Sangar> did you have a chance to try if it still happens with the latest builds? i.e. 451+
L75[05:55:48] <Kubuxu> the keyboard fix?
L76[05:55:52] <Sangar> yeah
L77[06:08:29] <Kubuxu> We are currently on 451 but I will have to wait for marcin212 to confirm.
L78[06:08:51] <Kubuxu> We are at 17h uptime but 4GB are taken.
L79[06:09:07] <Kubuxu> And IDK if it is just bit more than normal or memory leak.
L80[06:15:37] <Sangar> ok
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L112[08:57:12] <Kubuxu> Sangar: still borken http://gyazo.com/73717b734c66c0ef7f986c895c870959
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L114[09:05:10] <^v> [OpenComputers] http://git.io/pnLu asiekierka commented on issue ( OC crashes with Java 9 )
L115[09:05:12] <Skye|MaybeAway> .ping
L116[09:05:14] <^v> Ping reply from Skye|MaybeAway 2.2s
L117[09:05:19] <Skye|MaybeAway> O_O
L118[09:05:24] <Skye|MaybeAway> #ping
L119[09:05:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2.545 Seconds passed.
L120[09:05:32] <Skye|MaybeAway> %p
L121[09:05:33] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye|MaybeAway 1.62s
L122[09:05:43] <Skye|MaybeAway> waaaz
L123[09:05:46] <Skye|MaybeAway> *waa
L124[09:06:07] <vifino> #p
L125[09:06:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.131 Seconds passed.
L126[09:06:14] <Skye|MaybeAway> whaaa
L127[09:06:18] <Izaya> %p
L128[09:06:19] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Izaya 0.49s
L129[09:06:21] <Izaya> #p
L130[09:06:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.407 Seconds passed.
L131[09:06:39] <Izaya> Huh.
L132[09:06:42] <Izaya> Pings are reasonable speeds.
L133[09:06:48] <Skye|MaybeAway> O_O
L134[09:07:05] <Izaya> .p
L135[09:07:05] <^v> Ping reply from Izaya 0.52s
L136[09:07:12] * Izaya shrugs
L137[09:08:22] * Izaya returns to writing
L138[09:11:13] <Temia> Mmn.
L139[09:11:24] <Temia> So friggin' tired. =.=
L140[09:11:31] <Izaya> Sleep?
L141[09:11:34] <Temia> And yet the only thing I can drive myself to think about right now...
L142[09:11:35] <Izaya> Coffee?
L143[09:11:39] <Temia> coffeeing.
L144[09:11:53] <Temia> I have less than an hour before I have to leave for classes today. >_<
L145[09:11:56] <Temia> stupid DST.
L146[09:12:24] <Izaya> Temia: So that's like... 7 AM now? Go buy an energy drink of some kind.
L147[09:12:25] * Lizzy hugs Temia
L148[09:12:57] <Temia> anyway, my sleep-deprived brain seems to be stuck idly wondering how much more efficient it would be to run a large number of floating-point vector calculations in C compared to Python on an ARM proc.
L149[09:13:04] <Temia> 7 AM for me yeah. x.x
L150[09:13:29] <Temia> Also I'm quickly rekindling my gag reflex for energy drinks so I should probably try to keep it to a minimum.
L151[09:13:33] * Temia hugs Lizzy tight
L152[09:13:49] <Izaya> Hm, go have some tuxedo_jack strength coffee then?
L153[09:14:29] <Temia> I'm afraid that's an injoke I'm not in on
L154[09:15:14] <Izaya> Temia: tuxedo_jack is the more-or-less official reddit BOFH - he messes with users if they do bad stuff, is fairly grumpy, hunts spammers, and drink coffee that would kill most people.
L155[09:15:24] <Temia> ah.
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L157[09:15:57] <Temia> Man, it says something that all you have to say is BOFH to make me rekindle memories of reading those tales.
L158[09:16:02] <Temia> ...
L159[09:16:06] <Temia> Now I miss Acts of Gord.
L160[09:16:16] * Temia drowns her nostalgia in coffee. ._.
L161[09:16:35] <Izaya> Kill it with caffeine overdose.
L162[09:17:08] <Temia> ..heee.
L163[09:17:23] <Temia> I still love how resistor colour bands actually operate on scientific notation.
L164[09:17:29] <Temia> I'm such a nerd that I can't help but giggle over that
L165[09:17:34] <Temia> It may also be the sleep deprivation.
L166[09:18:10] <Temia> (this nonsequitur brought to you by a cheatsheet from a batch of assorted resistors that was sitting on my desk)
L167[09:18:14] <meto> {
L168[09:18:23] <Izaya> Sleep deprivation makes the world so much fun.
L169[09:18:30] <meto> } > /dev/null
L170[09:18:30] <Izaya> It's like getting drunk, but cheaper.
L171[09:19:07] <Izaya> Today - no, yesterday - the world seemed so far from me because I was listening to music through every lesson because I've done all this crap last year
L172[09:19:11] <Temia> No, I can safely say they're two distinct things.
L173[09:19:34] <meto> Temia
L174[09:19:38] <meto> {
L175[09:19:38] <Temia> moo?
L176[09:19:42] <meto> }
L177[09:19:48] <meto> your moo has been captured
L178[09:20:03] <Temia> Timing didn't look like it on my end.
L179[09:20:08] <Temia> How about everyone else?
L180[09:20:31] <Caitlyn> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-03-09_09-20-25.png
L181[09:20:33] <Caitlyn> looks legit to me
L182[09:20:33] <Izaya> <meto> {
L183[09:20:34] <Izaya> <Temia> moo?
L184[09:20:34] <Izaya> <meto> }
L185[09:20:38] <Temia> welp.
L186[09:20:43] <Temia> Good to know Eskimo's lagging then.
L187[09:20:47] <Temia> (stupid local echo)
L188[09:21:35] * Temia moos from her new spot on top of the stack. 'o'
L189[09:22:49] * Lizzy prods Caitlyn
L190[09:23:02] <Caitlyn> I didn't do it.
L191[09:23:33] <Izaya> Temia: depth do . loop
L192[09:23:43] <Caitlyn> ugh where did I hide my VisualStudio iso
L193[09:24:34] <Temia> That reminds me.
L194[09:25:58] <Temia> On a friend's server, I was changing up the wall on a friend's Mystcraft age base camp without explanation beyond assuring there was a method to my madness. I'd be nothing if not object-oriented, after all
L195[09:26:08] <Temia> Then we found a tainted land on that age.
L196[09:26:34] <Temia> I declared it the vile taint of spaghetti code. Totally unstructed. Gotos trailing across the landscape, violating all stacks they see
L197[09:26:51] <Temia> Turning everything of structure into more of its own kludgey mess.
L198[09:27:16] <Izaya> GOTO considered harmful
L199[09:27:43] <meto> lol
L200[09:28:02] <Temia> If I ever play SS13 again, that'll be my excuse for not immediately accepting summons as a cyborg.
L201[09:28:11] <Temia> Under law 1, GOTO statements are considered harmful. Yep.
L202[09:28:13] * Temia sagenods.
L203[09:28:26] * Temia ...faceplants. zzzmoo.
L204[09:28:29] * Izaya needs to try SS13 again
L205[09:28:35] * meto promotes Temia to goddess status
L206[09:29:18] <Caitlyn> Oh good, it gets boring here at the top sometimes.
L207[09:29:56] <dangranos> where?
L208[09:30:00] <dangranos> ah
L209[09:30:27] <Izaya> Ugh, I need coffee, but I would probably wake the house up if I went and got some
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L211[09:42:09] <Temia> Technically I am already a goddess. '-'
L212[09:42:30] <Kubuxu> Sangar: It looks like this time there are only microcontrollers causing leak.
L213[09:42:45] <Temia> Ascended to goddess of the monsterboys uncontested in a /tg/ thread about cheating with demi-omnipotence
L214[09:43:02] <Temia> My divine will even got obeyed. \o/
L215[09:43:02] <Kubuxu> 30 something computer cases on our server is normal. http://gyazo.com/73717b734c66c0ef7f986c895c870959
L216[09:45:48] <Caitlyn> well there is my VStudio 2008 iso...
L217[09:48:09] <dangranos> anyone want some leaked pages of 5th SSSS chapter? (spoilers)
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L219[09:52:15] <ameto> there we go, higher on the list
L220[09:53:01] *** ameto is now known as meto
L221[09:53:07] <meto> do not waant
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L223[09:55:09] <Sangar> Kubuxu, hrm, odd. allright, i'll look into it
L224[09:56:30] *** Riking|away is now known as Riking
L225[09:58:44] <Izaya> Temia: I had to explain to a mortal today - yesterday - what /b/ is
L226[09:59:04] *** Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L227[10:01:04] * Izaya is going to be evil
L228[10:02:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Wait, there are moments when you are not? 0.0
L229[10:02:34] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty: More evil than usual.
L230[10:02:36] <Izaya> Also hi.
L231[10:02:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah, ok
L232[10:02:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Have fun I guess?
L233[10:03:37] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Izaya
L234[10:03:46] <Izaya> In Psyche I've had Electra say 'We have stuff to do today' but I'm gonna stop writing for now. http://shadowkat.tk/projects/psyche/browse.php?id=2 I'd say 2 is done.
L235[10:03:50] * Izaya cuddles DeanIsaKitty
L236[10:04:42] <Izaya> I managed to recover some of my story from the flaming wreck that was oldlain's /srv/ drive
L237[10:05:17] *** manmaed is now known as manmaed|AFK
L238[10:05:41] <DeanIsaKitty> *cough*backups*cough*
L239[10:06:00] <Izaya> I've actually arranged that this time! :D
L240[10:06:34] <DeanIsaKitty> \o/
L241[10:06:45] <Izaya> I just need to write a script that does it.
L242[10:08:28] <Temia> mrp.
L243[10:08:35] <Temia> I wanna sleeeep =.=
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L245[10:08:49] <Temia> stupid college.
L246[10:09:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: How about sleeping in class? I mean if you already know the stuff... ;D
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L249[10:38:40] <jhon> Heyo! anyone on?
L250[10:41:53] <Temia> moo.
L251[10:43:18] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty! \o/
L252[10:43:24] * Lizzy hugs DeanIsaKitty
L253[10:43:48] <jhon> Umm, anyone here currently using opencomputers?
L254[10:44:15] <dangranos> yay to ZSH
L255[10:44:24] <dangranos> jhon, huh?
L256[10:44:27] <dangranos> jhon, what is that?
L257[10:44:34] <Temia> Not me, I'm on a bus.
L258[10:44:47] <dangranos> where am i ._.
L259[10:44:48] <Sangar> Kubuxu, give build 453 a try please. found one and a half potential leaks; can't generate any leakage with that version anymore, so if it still does for you, please get me another heap dump
L260[10:45:23] <jhon> Opencomputers is a mod for minecraft which adds computers ingame which runs on Lua
L261[10:45:32] <Kubuxu> Sangar: will try.
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L263[10:46:10] <Lizzy> jhon, did you read the topic? :P
L264[10:46:38] <jhon> .... where's that?XD
L265[10:46:54] <Caitlyn> I'm 95% sure that every non bot user of this channel has at one time or another used OpenComputers.
L266[10:47:42] <dangranos> jhon, calm down, i was kidding :D
L267[10:47:50] <dangranos> what is the question?
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L269[10:48:35] <meto> Sangar: realtime audio generation
L270[10:48:47] <jhon> oh, so this is a Opencomputer IRC then?
L271[10:48:55] <meto> yes it is
L272[10:48:57] <dangranos> no, this is patric
L273[10:49:04] <jhon> * me being stupid xD
L274[10:49:12] <dangranos> its /me
L275[10:49:21] <Caitlyn> Hello.. Yes, this is Dog
L276[10:49:21] <jhon> xD again
L277[10:49:34] <meto> D:
L278[10:49:38] <dangranos> so, what was the question?
L279[10:49:39] <Sangar> meto, eh?
L280[10:49:43] <meto> Dog stop using our airwaves
L281[10:49:49] <Caitlyn> Nah
L282[10:50:03] *** Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L283[10:50:05] <jhon> anyways, im a total noob in this OC, anyone know how to share files with two computers using switch?
L284[10:50:08] <Caitlyn> Gah why wont this stupid SSH proxy work
L285[10:50:19] <dangranos> <@Sangar> #oc, where we discuss the correct spelling of insults
L286[10:50:30] <meto> I appear to have not copied my music stuff :c
L287[10:50:33] <Sangar> >_>
L288[10:50:40] <dangranos> :P
L289[10:51:09] <Izaya> http://izaya.pc-logix.com/underdesk1.jpg :D
L290[10:51:16] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty ^
L291[10:51:31] <meto> Sangar: I borrowed code from OC and ported it to luajit
L292[10:51:38] <meto> #DontSueMe
L293[10:51:54] <dangranos> #calmdownandwaitforpartywan
L294[10:52:01] <Izaya> Emilia on top, Celty is the middle tower, and Sakeko is the tower on the right
L295[10:52:04] <Sangar> #NotSueing out of curiosity, which parts?
L296[10:52:10] <meto> #whyareweusinghashtags
L297[10:52:14] <meto> Sangar: the audio generation stuff
L298[10:52:18] <dangranos> Izaya, that sentence :D
L299[10:52:19] <Sangar> ah, ok
L300[10:52:28] <meto> and then i made it fancy
L301[10:52:31] <Izaya> Also, on top of the left tower is a PS2 and a dead ThinkPad
L302[10:52:48] <meto> Inari: I would like to have that PS2
L303[10:52:55] <Sangar> Izaya, is Celty headless? :P
L304[10:53:03] <dangranos> she is
L305[10:53:06] *** Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off
L306[10:53:06] <dangranos> :D
L307[10:53:11] <Izaya> Sangar: Celty is my headless Haiku VNC server.
L308[10:53:23] <meto> why did you decapitate it
L309[10:53:25] <dangranos> ><Izaya> dangranos, But celty is a headless VNC server!
L310[10:53:27] <jhon> anyone here know how to do advanced stuff with OC?
L311[10:53:29] <Sangar> :>
L312[10:53:37] *** Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L313[10:53:50] <meto> jhon: define advanced stuff
L314[10:53:51] <dangranos> jhon, no, and, its possible to add stuff in oc?
L315[10:54:12] <meto> Izaya made an os in OC, micrOS
L316[10:54:25] <jhon> umm, like connect to a floppy drive which is connected with a switch on the internet
L317[10:54:39] <dangranos> and update is coming soon <tm>
L318[10:54:46] * dangranos pokes SKS
L319[10:54:56] <meto> do switches transmit components?
L320[10:55:06] <Sangar> no
L321[10:55:16] <Sangar> that's the point :X
L322[10:55:22] <meto> oh
L323[10:55:27] <meto> so then they do network messages
L324[10:55:32] <Izaya> dangranos: Once I figure out what I'm breaking in the fs_execute_on_drive syscall I might consider it
L325[10:55:33] <Sangar> yes
L326[10:55:48] <jhon> :C so it's impossible..
L327[10:55:57] <meto> jhon: yes it is
L328[10:56:04] <jhon> what about share files between computers?
L329[10:56:09] <meto> also possible
L330[10:56:16] <Izaya> Use the network. For both.
L331[10:56:26] <meto> for the first one, you'd just need to make a networking protocol to access components.
L332[10:56:37] <jhon> the problem is.. there's almost no documentation online
L333[10:56:39] <meto> and the second one, you'd just need to make a networking protocol to transfer files
L334[10:56:49] <meto> jhon: we have ocdoc, http://ocdoc.cil.li
L335[10:56:58] <Izaya> http://izaya.pc-logix.com/underdesk2.jpg This is Lain's console.
L336[10:57:00] <meto> ~w there's also this bot I made
L337[10:57:00] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:oc2_writing_code
L338[10:57:00] <jhon> it's funny you just say "just" it's like impossible for me..
L339[10:57:18] <dangranos> ~w network
L340[10:57:18] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:network_card
L341[10:57:21] <dangranos> ~w network api
L342[10:57:22] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:network_card
L343[10:57:25] <dangranos> uh
L344[10:57:31] <meto> dangranos: i take suggestions for aliases
L345[10:57:35] <Izaya> ~w component:modem
L346[10:57:35] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
L347[10:57:40] <meto> jhon: but i believe that second part also already exists on the forums
L348[10:58:11] <jhon> know any good tutorials out there?
L349[10:58:24] <Izaya> http://izaya.pc-logix.com/desk1.jpg And this is my desk :D
L350[10:58:27] <Sangar> there are some on the forums
L351[10:58:50] <meto> actually both programs already exist
L352[10:59:06] <dangranos> oppm?
L353[10:59:23] <meto> jhon: http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/121-alpharemote-components/ http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/123-network-filesystem/
L354[10:59:45] <jhon> thanks
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L357[11:02:48] <meto> Vexatos
L358[11:02:53] <Vexatos> \o
L359[11:02:53] <dangranos> hi vex
L360[11:02:56] <dangranos> o/
L361[11:03:13] <meto> Vexatos: tar for tapes
L362[11:03:16] <meto> gogogog!
L363[11:03:27] <Vexatos> meto, DIY. gogogog
L364[11:03:35] <meto> Vexatos: gogogogogog!
L365[11:03:43] <Vexatos> It's called TAPE archive
L366[11:03:55] <Vexatos> So I assume you'll be able to do it in Lua
L367[11:04:01] <meto> Vexatos: no its called Table Arithmetic Runtime
L368[11:04:07] <Vexatos> Lie
L369[11:04:13] <Vexatos> It's Tape ARchive
L370[11:04:17] <dangranos> ^
L371[11:04:17] <Vexatos> If you make it work on tapes
L372[11:04:19] <Vexatos> it is
L373[11:04:24] <dangranos> um
L374[11:04:34] <dangranos> it was DESIGNED to be used with tapes
L375[11:04:41] <meto> It's Tablet Authentication Rabbit
L376[11:04:50] * dangranos staaaaaaaabs meto
L377[11:05:01] <meto> It's Temia Alissa Riking
L378[11:05:15] <Vexatos> "In computing, tar (derived from tape archive)"
L379[11:05:20] <Vexatos> ~ Wikipedia
L380[11:05:25] <meto> Vexatos: no thats tar not TAR
L381[11:05:26] <Sangar> Temporarily Arbitrary Routing?
L382[11:05:43] <meto> I can barely think of any words that start with R
L383[11:05:45] <Lizzy> Terrible Acting, Riking
L384[11:05:59] <Vexatos> Sangar, Total Alligator Rapture
L385[11:06:13] <meto> Tar ar r
L386[11:06:14] <Sangar> Terrible Acronym Rape
L387[11:06:20] <dangranos> Total Annihilation Remake :D
L388[11:06:20] * meto stabs Sangar
L389[11:06:20] <meto> bad
L390[11:06:28] <Sangar> scnr
L391[11:06:29] <Lizzy> Time alteration raptures
L392[11:06:41] <dangranos> Terrible Acronym Rush
L393[11:06:53] <Lizzy> Time And Relative
L394[11:07:11] <meto> Tiny Alaskan Remote
L395[11:07:37] <jhon> I've got a major problem i've been trying to solve for the past 2 hours, how does the modem.send work..
L396[11:07:54] <Lizzy> modem.send( address, port, data )
L397[11:07:55] <jhon> i know the adress and port and everything but
L398[11:08:05] <jhon> but, where do i get the adress?
L399[11:08:18] <Lizzy> the address is where you want to send it
L400[11:08:29] <meto> the address is the address of the other computer iirc.
L401[11:08:32] <jhon> the UUID, is there a way to rename a computer
L402[11:08:39] <dangranos> nope
L403[11:08:43] <Sangar> *address of the network card
L404[11:08:45] <meto> oh
L405[11:08:46] <Lizzy> ^
L406[11:08:58] <jhon> so, i have to copy the whole damn thing?
L407[11:09:02] <meto> jhon: no, but you could always store it in a variable
L408[11:09:04] <dangranos> also, you could setup some dns/hostnames system
L409[11:09:10] <Sangar> you can also use broadcast
L410[11:09:14] <dangranos> ^
L411[11:09:16] <Vexatos> I just had a Music exam and my brain somehow failed
L412[11:09:18] <dangranos> notsafe
L413[11:09:29] <meto> so like, othercomputer = "sdfsf-sdf-fg-fdgdfgfdg-dfgfdg-fdgg", modem.send(othercomputer, 3423, "hi")
L414[11:09:35] <Sangar> Vexatos, tomuchmidi? :P
L415[11:09:40] <Vexatos> I accidentally, without noticing, wrote "interpretieren" all the time instead of "improvisieren"
L416[11:09:50] <Vexatos> writing comprehension fail
L417[11:09:51] <Izaya> Vexatos had an elvish exam
L418[11:09:53] <dangranos> though you could use broadcast something so computers will find each other and then will use send
L419[11:09:53] <Sangar> heh
L420[11:10:09] <Vexatos> I also made a mistake because I thought I'd fix a mistake
L421[11:10:09] <dangranos> Izaya, um, elvish here is what?
L422[11:10:10] <meto> Sangar: spoofing isn't possible, right?
L423[11:10:17] <meto> right?
L424[11:10:18] <Vexatos> both things I realized when I left the room
L425[11:10:20] <Sangar> meto Computronics has a spoofing card
L426[11:10:23] <Vexatos> \o\
L427[11:10:25] <meto> security by default?
L428[11:10:33] <meto> FUCK YOU VEXATOS
L429[11:10:38] <dangranos> *sangar
L430[11:10:48] <meto> why would i sangar
L431[11:10:51] <Sangar> *person
L432[11:10:51] <dangranos> s/vexatos/sangar
L433[11:10:52] <meto> vexatos does computronics
L434[11:10:53] <Vexatos> meto, blame Skye|MaybeAway, that was his idea
L435[11:10:56] <dangranos> um
L436[11:10:57] <meto> oh
L437[11:10:58] <meto> ohokay
L438[11:11:10] <Izaya> dangranos: I've started calling music elvish
L439[11:11:12] <meto> but seriously, sdknfjdslhfsdjlfshd
L440[11:11:18] <Vexatos> meto, why are you angry?
L441[11:11:21] <dangranos> ^
L442[11:11:31] <dangranos> its OC that has sec-by-def
L443[11:11:32] <meto> because i have to rewrite my kernel's networking stuff to take that into account
L444[11:11:37] <dangranos> ahaha
L445[11:11:49] <dangranos> #blamevexatos
L446[11:11:54] <meto> #BlameVexatos
L447[11:11:56] <dangranos> or #blameasie
L448[11:11:56] <Vexatos> Izaya started it because of me, I think
L449[11:12:02] <meto> no asie had nothing to do with it
L450[11:12:11] <asie> what
L451[11:12:12] <Sangar> #blameeveryonewhoisntme
L452[11:12:14] <dangranos> with computronics or spoofing?
L453[11:12:17] <Izaya> what'dIdo?
L454[11:12:19] <Lizzy> #hide
L455[11:12:21] * Lizzy hides
L456[11:12:22] <meto> #blame!sangar
L457[11:12:31] <Sangar> wow, that pings me
L458[11:12:34] <meto> exactly
L459[11:12:35] <dangranos> lol
L460[11:12:46] <Vexatos> Izaya, wasn't the elvish thing because of certain http://puu.sh/gtb6a/cb0664d0b6.png
L461[11:12:46] <meto> oh also, i found something cool
L462[11:13:10] <Izaya> ohyeah, you were copying the elvish down into beep cards
L463[11:13:12] <meto> there was a competition where people were giving an image editing tool, and were told to generate human speech with it.
L464[11:13:15] <dangranos> can we get ABC to beepcard translator?
L465[11:13:16] <Vexatos> Yup
L466[11:13:20] <Sangar> Vexatos, it really looks more like an esoteric 2d programming language
L467[11:13:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, it pretty much is one
L468[11:13:30] <meto> so, people would start drawing stuff, and play it back, and then tweak it over and over
L469[11:13:34] <Sangar> i guess
L470[11:13:35] <Vexatos> an esoteric music language
L471[11:13:38] <meto> and eventually people would start geting human speech
L472[11:13:49] <Vexatos> Also (-?((\w[#b]?\d)|P)(_\d+)?), is quite an amazing regex
L473[11:14:02] <dangranos> does audacity counds as image editing?
L474[11:14:08] <meto> no
L475[11:14:18] <dangranos> but you can load image using raw..
L476[11:14:19] <meto> it would be like paint or photoshop
L477[11:14:20] <dangranos> *as raw
L478[11:14:27] <dangranos> and then edit it
L479[11:14:29] <Vexatos> MS paint
L480[11:14:29] <meto> dangranos: but thats besides the point
L481[11:14:46] <dangranos> but it can edit and its image
L482[11:14:51] <DeanIsaKitty> I converted my music library to Opus! :D
L483[11:14:59] <meto> dangranos
L484[11:15:01] <meto> stfu
L485[11:15:05] <Sangar> flac ftw
L486[11:15:13] <meto> obac ftw
L487[11:15:17] <meto> obac is better dfpwm
L488[11:15:24] * DeanIsaKitty shoots Sangar with a FOSS Cannon
L489[11:15:24] <Izaya> Does ImageMagick count as an image editor?
L490[11:15:25] <Sangar> never heard of it
L491[11:15:26] <meto> but same sice
L492[11:15:37] <meto> Izaya: yes
L493[11:15:41] * Izaya uses ImageMagick due to preciceness
L494[11:15:53] <dangranos> can i use pipes?
L495[11:15:57] <Vexatos> Sangar, I save all my songs as .png as it's uncompressed
L496[11:15:59] <Vexatos> :3
L497[11:16:07] <meto> dangranos
L498[11:16:08] <meto> stfu
L499[11:16:11] <dangranos> nope
L500[11:16:14] <Sangar> Vexatos, i save my images as .docx
L501[11:16:20] <meto> I save my audio as jpegs
L502[11:16:23] <dangranos> you never said anything about pipes
L503[11:16:25] <Vexatos> Sangar, but the header is so huge D:
L504[11:16:34] <meto> dangranos
L505[11:16:37] <meto> you get an image editor
L506[11:16:40] <Vexatos> stfu = save the flying ulcers
L507[11:16:41] <meto> you use the image editor
L508[11:16:47] <dangranos> only it?
L509[11:16:50] <meto> pipes are not an image editor
L510[11:16:56] <Sangar> Vexatos, exactly
L511[11:16:59] <meto> audacity is not an image editor its an audio editor
L512[11:17:01] <dangranos> but can i pipe INTO editor?
L513[11:17:07] <vifino> yes
L514[11:17:13] <meto> no you can use the image editors open file capability
L515[11:17:15] <vifino> You can pipe all the things.
L516[11:17:26] <Vexatos> Sangar, seriously, 4kB for an empty file
L517[11:17:31] <Vexatos> That's as much as OPPM
L518[11:17:32] <vifino> Don't listen to meto, he is stupid.
L519[11:17:37] <dangranos> ^
L520[11:17:37] <meto> the open file can only be the working image that has not been modified by other programs
L521[11:17:37] <Vexatos> (not really, but still)
L522[11:17:47] <Sangar> the joys of xml
L523[11:17:58] <meto> dangranos is the exact reason we can't have nice things
L524[11:17:58] <dangranos> audio as xml
L525[11:18:01] <dangranos> oh god
L526[11:18:07] <meto> because then everyone has to be lawyers
L527[11:18:22] <dangranos> meto, is that a bad thing?
L528[11:18:25] <meto> yes
L529[11:18:43] <dangranos> meto, i just trying to find "haxs" in you rules
L530[11:18:46] <Sangar> whatever it is, i'm sure someone somewhere somewhen stored it as xml
L531[11:19:03] <meto> yes, and then I kick you out of the competition
L532[11:19:14] <meto> and no money back
L533[11:19:21] <dangranos> todo: find a way to open a pipe
L534[11:19:31] <dangranos> wai
L535[11:19:33] <dangranos> hmm
L536[11:20:37] <meto> Sangar: <b64audio type="mp3">(insert b64'd mp3 here)</b64audio>
L537[11:21:06] <Sangar> too simple :P there'd have to at least be child tags for metadata and such
L538[11:21:15] <meto> metadata is in the mp3
L539[11:21:19] <Sangar> and b64'ed images :P
L540[11:21:22] <Sangar> oh god
L541[11:21:25] <Sangar> that's brilliant
L542[11:22:27] <meto> let me find an image of the concept image->speech
L543[11:23:23] <vifino> I found asie in #esoteric. I see where this is going and I'm scared.
L544[11:23:44] <meto> Sangar: http://i.imgur.com/oSq7RIS.png
L545[11:24:02] *** prasselpikachu is now known as prassel|off
L546[11:24:07] <Sangar> uhm...
L547[11:24:23] <asie> vifino: BuildCraft Computing
L548[11:24:30] <meto> http://arss.sourceforge.net/examples/hal_9000_ps/hal_9000_ps_24bpo_150pps.mp3
L549[11:24:33] <meto> it makes that
L550[11:24:39] * Izaya wants to see this BuildCraft computing
L551[11:24:39] <vifino> It was worse than I expected. x_x
L552[11:24:54] <vifino> asie: I'd vote for erlang.
L553[11:24:55] <Sangar> dafuq
L554[11:24:57] <meto> I also want to see this buildcraft computing
L555[11:25:19] <vifino> asie: Well, a minimal version of erlang.
L556[11:25:26] <vifino> Not OTP.
L557[11:25:32] <Kubuxu> I wanted (be)funge
L558[11:25:41] <Sangar> buildcraft computing? what did i miss?
L559[11:25:49] <vifino> Sangar: Insanity.
L560[11:25:52] <meto> where is the buildcraft computing
L561[11:25:55] <Kubuxu> nothing yet
L562[11:25:55] <dangranos> buildcraft lisp :D
L563[11:25:59] <Kubuxu> ^^
L564[11:26:22] <asie> dangranos: that was my original idea
L565[11:26:29] <asie> Sangar: essentially, OpenComputers is high-tech
L566[11:26:31] <asie> and i miss low-tech computing
L567[11:26:35] <asie> think retrocomputing or RP2 Computers
L568[11:26:46] <asie> so i want to have a go at it!
L569[11:26:48] <Kubuxu> PLS no FORTH/
L570[11:26:50] <asie> as a BuildCraft addon
L571[11:26:54] <meto> oh
L572[11:26:59] <asie> Kubuxu: why? NedoComputers was bad not because FORTH
L573[11:27:01] <vifino> I think asie doesn't like my idea of erlang :(
L574[11:27:03] <asie> but because it was buggy
L575[11:27:03] <Sangar> verilog/vhdl? :>
L576[11:27:05] <asie> vifino: 2new
L577[11:27:07] <asie> Sangar: no
L578[11:27:08] <meto> asie: i thought this was making a computer out of buildcraft stuff.
L579[11:27:09] <asie> but i got a nice idea
L580[11:27:10] <vifino> asie: ;_;
L581[11:27:12] <asie> programs would be stored on punchcards
L582[11:27:14] <Sangar> mkay
L583[11:27:16] <Kubuxu> FORTH is soo unclear.
L584[11:27:16] <Pwootage> sounds like the job for a 16-bit RISC archetecture! :D
L585[11:27:16] <asie> and punchcards would be stackable
L586[11:27:18] <Sangar> oh
L587[11:27:20] <Pwootage> or even 8-bit
L588[11:27:23] <Izaya> asie: PDP-8 pls
L589[11:27:31] <asie> Izaya: emulation is a thing i'd rather use as a later resort
L590[11:27:34] <asie> ...
L591[11:27:35] <Izaya> Kubuxu: You just can't see the stack.
L592[11:27:37] <vifino> asie: It's esoteric enough ;_;
L593[11:27:40] <asie> Izaya: PDP-8 MULTIBLOCKS
L594[11:27:44] <asie> PDP-8 MULTIBLOCK COMPUTERS
L595[11:27:55] <Sangar> oh dear
L596[11:28:07] <Izaya> PDP-8 is a cool architecture because it has a whopping 8 instructions
L597[11:28:07] <meto> asie: i quite like the idea of trying to make a computer out of buildcraft stuff
L598[11:28:12] <Kubuxu> Izaya: I can. But 3 is too much.
L599[11:28:15] <asie> meto: it's doable
L600[11:28:20] <asie> you can make a NAND gate and an RS latch
L601[11:28:20] <vifino> Well, erlang would be semi-easy. Make a BEAM thing and ya done.
L602[11:28:24] <Pwootage> the actual PDP-8 is only two blocks big, btw
L603[11:28:30] <asie> Pwootage: i know
L604[11:28:32] <asie> that'd still be a multiblock
L605[11:28:39] <vifino> Actual compilation could be through native stuff.
L606[11:29:30] <Pwootage> ds84182: did you ever get any further on your ARM emulator, out of curiosity?
L607[11:29:45] <asie> however, my idea was that computers go on pipes
L608[11:29:48] <asie> like, you place a monitor
L609[11:29:51] <asie> and then you drag a bus cable on the pipe
L610[11:29:58] <asie> connect it to gates or robot stations or whatnot
L611[11:30:23] <meto> make computer entirely out of project red/redlogic wires and gates
L612[11:30:29] <asie> meto: already done
L613[11:30:33] <meto> asie: linky?
L614[11:30:35] <dangranos> nedocomputers
L615[11:30:35] <asie> Kubuxu did one with marcin212 and Magik6k, in fact
L616[11:30:43] <dangranos> has emulated cpu
L617[11:30:45] <asie> also
L618[11:30:50] <asie> Greg Ewing made an almost done PDP-8 out of RP2 gates
L619[11:30:56] <Kubuxu> meto: it broke cause immibis
L620[11:31:06] <asie> read: Integrated Circuits in RedLogic are a tad quirky
L621[11:31:33] <jhon> Forth is awesome XD
L622[11:31:41] <meto> jhon: lolno
L623[11:32:29] <meto> can circuits be compiled into jvm asm?
L624[11:32:48] <jhon> at first it was horrible, but then i mastered it somehow.. but that's back when it was implemented in RP2
L625[11:32:49] <Kubuxu> They are.
L626[11:33:38] <Kubuxu> We got fe. 16bit 16operations ALU, 64x16nit memory units, 16bit bin-to-bcd
L627[11:33:41] <Kubuxu> and so on
L628[11:33:46] <Kubuxu> bin-to-7seg
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L630[11:34:15] <meto> i wonder when BluePower will ever finish their cpu, if ever
L631[11:34:37] <jhon> What's best? OC or CC
L632[11:34:40] <meto> that idiot who was like (lets add in all this functionality missing from rp2's cpu and change existing functionality) is gone
L633[11:34:48] <meto> jhon: there is no best, both have their places and purpose
L634[11:35:04] * Izaya resists arguing
L635[11:35:12] <jhon> hmm
L636[11:35:26] <meto> Izaya: so do i, hence neutral statement
L637[11:36:27] <jhon> But again, is there any youtuber who has any good tutorials on OC? i know theres one who explains some of the stuff in 8 parts.
L638[11:36:39] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: you had your Java RISC imp. Can't find it now.
L639[11:36:45] <meto> Sangar has done tutorials iirc
L640[11:37:17] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: you mean OpenRISC? I didn't like that one much, I have a different VM for my own archetecture that I like better, it's not implemented in OC atm though
L641[11:37:19] <Sangar> though i'm not sure how up-to-date they are, tbh
L642[11:37:43] <jhon> Is that the one with the pirate?
L643[11:37:48] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: link?
L644[11:37:54] <meto> arrr, Sangar be a pirate
L645[11:37:56] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: What do you want about it? OC-part or VM-part?
L646[11:38:00] <Kubuxu> VM
L647[11:38:06] <Sangar> someone's been writing some (from quickly looking them over pretty good) text tutorials on the forums recently
L648[11:38:08] <Kubuxu> to that new
L649[11:38:13] <Sangar> yarrr
L650[11:38:29] <Kubuxu> {ersonally I dont like video tutorails.
L651[11:38:46] <Kubuxu> Usually iti is "man stop talking start doing"
L652[11:38:56] <meto> Kubuxu: what if its not a man
L653[11:38:57] <jhon> But, sangar, it it thoose with mighty pirates you're talking about? or is there any else?
L654[11:39:00] <Sangar> the main reason i made them videos was because i'd never finish when writing >_>
L655[11:39:15] <meto> Sangar: make them videos and then transcribulation them
L656[11:39:26] <Sangar> jhon, dunno if there are others
L657[11:39:32] <Kubuxu> meto: it is teir problem.
L658[11:39:36] <jhon> ok
L659[11:39:36] <meto> Kubuxu:
L660[11:39:37] <Kubuxu> s/teir/their
L661[11:39:37] <meto> ?
L662[11:39:37] <Kibibyte> <Kubuxu> meto: it is their problem.
L663[11:39:45] <meto> who's problem
L664[11:39:51] <asie> Kubuxu: i still like FORTH
L665[11:39:55] <asie> but the answer could be to just use ASM
L666[11:39:59] <asie> and allow for others to provide floppies
L667[11:40:03] <dangranos> BURN THE VIDEO TUTORIALS
L668[11:40:05] <meto> 65el02 asm
L669[11:40:12] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: thisw your custom?
L670[11:40:19] <Pwootage> Uh, looks like I never ported it to Java/Scala, c++ version is https://github.com/theMonster/Shell/tree/master/vm spec is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uS_XcoY3tSfTlJKu-7WNGf6MFwqVBW9fT3UNRWD69ZA/edit#gid=0
L671[11:40:48] <meto> asie: what i remember most is using nbt turtles to fill rp2 memory with code and then just powering it on
L672[11:40:49] <Pwootage> I'm about to write a spec for the MMU, that's the next project for my OS class
L673[11:40:55] <meto> something to that extent
L674[11:41:15] <Daiyousei> forth alert
L675[11:41:16] <Daiyousei> forth alert
L676[11:41:17] <Pwootage> It took me maybe two or three hours to get that VM working like it is, I could rewrite it in java pretty quickly if you wanted a java example of a VM
L677[11:41:17] <Daiyousei> D:
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L679[11:41:42] <Kubuxu> asie: Fprth is really over complicated with its 2/3 stacks/
L680[11:41:50] <meto> FORTH ALERT
L681[11:41:53] <jhon> how do i copy from the terminal in OC? i know the insert one but copy?
L682[11:42:00] <meto> that is not the right color i was expecting it to be.
L683[11:42:06] <Daiyousei> forth's a shit
L684[11:42:08] <Daiyousei> lisp masterrace
L685[11:42:11] <dangranos> jhon, cant
L686[11:42:13] * Daiyousei hides
L687[11:42:17] <meto> actually none of my colors are configured D:
L688[11:42:31] <dangranos> meto, i see it as redonback
L689[11:42:33] <meto> they are all the overbright-washedout ones that are shipped by default.
L690[11:42:36] <jhon> NOO! dang, we have to ask the dev now
L691[11:42:39] <dangranos> *red-on-black
L692[11:42:45] <Caitlyn> I see it red on white :P
L693[11:43:03] * dangranos pokes Sangar
L694[11:43:07] <Sangar> wat
L695[11:43:11] <meto> I see it as blue on black O_o
L696[11:43:23] <dangranos> yo, how do u copy from screen?
L697[11:43:32] <Sangar> analyzer
L698[11:43:42] <asie> meto: #thedress
L699[11:43:43] <jhon> thats the only way?
L700[11:43:47] <meto> asie: NO
L701[11:43:51] <meto> NO.
L702[11:43:58] <meto> NO.
L703[11:44:04] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: let me know if you have any questions or whatever. If you want to discuss in more detail you could join #pwootage.
L704[11:44:05] <dangranos> NO
L705[11:44:08] <meto> how many ways can i express NO
L706[11:44:11] <Sangar> ya. also it'll also copy to the analyzer, not your real clipboard.
L707[11:44:21] <dangranos> #itswhitegold
L708[11:44:26] <Sangar> wat
L709[11:44:29] <meto> you can copy from the analyzer?
L710[11:44:38] <dangranos> #thedress #iswhitegold
L711[11:44:47] <meto> #thedress #isugly
L712[11:45:27] <Sangar> you can copy single lines from a screen onto the analyzer by shift-rclicking and paste them by normal rclicking
L713[11:45:35] <Caitlyn> I saw white and gold, but it's blue and black.. I liked the dress.. :P
L714[11:45:37] <Sangar> iirc
L715[11:46:06] <dangranos> >sangar
L716[11:46:09] <dangranos> >iirc
L717[11:46:09] <jhon> #oc> █
L718[11:46:15] <jhon> nice
L719[11:46:22] <meto> not even Sangar, knows of his mod
L720[11:46:24] <dangranos> YOU ARE NOT SANGAR
L721[11:46:25] <meto> it cannot be tamed
L722[11:46:28] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: you could write interpreater in Terra. It would be JIT-able.
L723[11:46:30] <Sangar> too much stuff in it :/
L724[11:46:35] <meto> DOS Integration Suite
L725[11:46:55] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: *googles*
L726[11:47:18] <jhon> Sangar, could you implement text hilighting and copy ? pretty please
L727[11:47:22] <Sangar> seriously. there have been multiple occasions when i was surprised something was implemented. i totally couldn't remember i had >_>
L728[11:47:29] <meto> lol
L729[11:47:31] <Sangar> jhon, not really
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L731[11:47:44] <jhon> is it for realism or?
L732[11:47:51] <meto> I think someone was working on an ncurses terminal wrapper once
L733[11:47:55] <Sangar> that's my lazy excuse, mostly, yes :P
L734[11:48:25] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: I don't see how that's any different than my C++ impl or a java impl
L735[11:48:32] <jhon> well, it's open source. could find someone to do it for me
L736[11:49:00] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: oh it has this meta-programming thing going on? *reads a bit more*
L737[11:49:29] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: yup.
L738[11:49:59] <Izaya> So I made a thing http://shadowkat.tk/network/status.php
L739[11:50:04] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: it is JITed by llvm.
L740[11:50:14] <Sangar> what happened to whoever was working on the simplified recipe set btw?
L741[11:50:29] <meto> Sangar: they couldn't handle the madness
L742[11:50:32] <meto> have never been seen since
L743[11:50:43] <meto> some say they are lurking in the darkness
L744[11:50:43] <Sangar> ah. well. can't blame them.
L745[11:50:45] <asie> Sangar: copy the one from buildforgecraft
L746[11:50:47] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: that's kinda neat, actually. Would be interesting, at the very least, although memory lookups would still be about two or three times as slow as native
L747[11:50:49] <asie> it's the BuildCraft OC recipes heh
L748[11:50:49] <Izaya> indeedthat person was SKS
L749[11:50:50] <meto> umm what
L750[11:50:55] <meto> asie: buildforgecraft?
L751[11:50:57] <asie> meto: yes
L752[11:51:00] <asie> http://buildforgecraft.asie.pl/
L753[11:51:15] <Sangar> hohum. good point actually, i'll look into that.
L754[11:51:25] <meto> XD
L755[11:51:26] <meto> TheGuysWhoCouldn'tGetOnForgeCraftCraft
L756[11:51:31] <Sangar> todo list is growing again D:
L757[11:52:01] <meto> Sangar: TODO: Start doing items on the todo list
L758[11:52:04] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: if you can transalte your code to "terra(lua)" it will get JITed so it is almost native.
L759[11:52:07] <Sangar> meto, yes
L760[11:52:18] <Sangar> that would be a good point
L761[11:52:19] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: in Java you wouldhave to generate Bytecode.
L762[11:52:42] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: yeah but I have to do things like MMU lookups and stuff, so it's not *that* fast... I do kinda want to write something like this, though, that's pretty neat
L763[11:53:19] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: I wish this wasn't lua, though ;D
L764[11:53:25] <Sangar> todo: stop playing cities skylines :/
L765[11:53:57] <dangranos> can you upload it (yarr!)?
L766[11:54:03] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: you can use pure LLVM or pure JVM those are two fastest paths you can go.
L767[11:54:39] <Kubuxu> In Java7+ you've got AnonymousClassLoader so PermGen is not a problem.
L768[11:54:55] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: generating LLVM bytecode is probably easier than JVM bytecode, idk what libraries are available for JVM bytecode
L769[11:55:07] <Kubuxu> ASM
L770[11:55:26] <Kubuxu> http://asm.ow2.org/
L771[11:55:37] <jhon> yo, sangar. how do i terminate a program in lua? im running while true do print(event.pull("modem") end
L772[11:56:00] <Sangar> ctrl+alt+c
L773[11:56:06] <jhon> Thanks
L774[11:56:48] <Pwootage> Option 2 is to just toggle the power on the computer :)
L775[11:57:05] <jhon> Been doing that.. the problem is when a computer is under something
L776[11:57:41] <jhon> Btw, why does switches act like hubs?
L777[11:58:10] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: Now I'm torn between writing a compiler frontend for LLVM and my own language and writing a JIT-er for PWISA... I think I would prefer to do the former, though
L778[11:58:24] <asie> PWISA?
L779[12:00:44] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: I challenge you. Write JJIT for bequnge.
L780[12:01:12] <Pwootage> asie: my archetecture that I made, and I suppose it's properly capitalized as "pwisa"
L781[12:02:23] <Kubuxu> asie: This -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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L784[12:19:04] <Pwootage> well "touch" works, yay
L785[12:19:16] <Pwootage> now to figureo ut how to write to files in this filesystem...
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L788[12:28:25] <Daiyousei> i see LLVM
L789[12:28:26] <Daiyousei> LLVM ftw!
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L791[12:28:47] <Soni> Pwootage, thank you
L792[12:29:18] <Pwootage> Soni: what for?
L793[12:30:25] <Soni> Pwootage, I saw your message, it had "LLVM" in it, so now I'm asking the LLVM channel about stuff
L794[12:30:53] <Pwootage> Soni: ah. LLVM is pretty awesome.
L795[12:31:15] <Daiyousei> i was working on a custom programming language in haskell earlier
L796[12:31:19] <Daiyousei> LLVM + Parsec
L797[12:31:28] <Daiyousei> but i abandoned the project
L798[12:31:31] <Daiyousei> rip
L799[12:31:39] <Soni> I'm looking for something with tail call optimization, zero cost abstractions, reflection a la java, ASM a la java, etc
L800[12:31:46] <Soni> idk if LLVM has any of that but w/e
L801[12:32:37] <Pwootage> it defs has tail call optimization, zero cost abstractions, and is really easy to JIT, and could do reflection
L802[12:32:45] <Pwootage> but it doesn't have that built in
L803[12:32:47] <Pwootage> afaik
L804[12:32:56] <Daiyousei> you have to implement shit yourself
L805[12:34:06] <Soni> good enough
L806[12:36:49] <Soni> what about ASM?
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L808[12:38:53] <Daiyousei> remember that LLVM is not a virtual machine, but a framework used to generate crossplatform assembly code
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L810[12:39:41] <Daiyousei> if you want stuff like ASM and reflection, you probably have to implement a virtual machine ontop of llvm
L811[12:40:00] <Soni> LLVM has bytecode
L812[12:40:10] <Soni> and you can JIT to LLVM
L813[12:40:33] <Soni> I guess what it doesn't do is abstract memory and stuff
L814[12:40:34] <Daiyousei> The LLVM bytecode representation is used to store the intermediate representation on disk in compacted form.
L815[12:40:41] <Daiyousei> LLVM bytecode is just compact LLVM IR
L816[12:41:02] <Soni> you can JIT to LLVM
L817[12:41:11] <Daiyousei> yes, you can
L818[12:41:18] <Daiyousei> but it aint a virtual machine
L819[12:41:24] <Soni> it's a JIT
L820[12:41:29] <Daiyousei> but not a vm
L821[12:41:39] <Soni> meh
L822[12:41:43] <Soni> it's a JIT
L823[12:41:46] <Daiyousei> .
L824[12:41:46] <Soni> that's what I care about
L825[12:41:54] <vifino> .
L826[12:42:04] <meto> uhh
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L828[12:57:37] <Kubuxu> Son: JIT is not always best option.
L829[12:57:55] <Kubuxu> Soni: compiling, loading is costly.
L830[12:58:09] <Kubuxu> Sometimes simple interpreter is better.
L831[12:58:25] <Kubuxu> That is one reason why Java is faster tahn .NET
L832[12:58:53] <ping> everything is better than .net
L833[12:59:00] <Kubuxu> shhh
L834[13:05:54] <Pwootage> Java is such an impressive piece of software
L835[13:05:56] <OneM_Industries|NervousBreakdo> .p
L836[13:05:57] <^v> Ping reply from OneM_Industries|NervousBreakdo 0.48s
L837[13:06:00] <Pwootage> well, more specifically, hotspot
L838[13:06:21] <ping> > impressive
L839[13:06:22] <ping> > java
L840[13:06:23] <ping> wut
L841[13:06:43] <Kubuxu> pin: isn't it?
L842[13:06:47] <Kubuxu> ping
L843[13:07:39] <ping> i will never be impressed until a simple text box uses less than 10MB
L844[13:08:21] <Kubuxu> ping: count libs and simple box even in asm won't be smaller tahn 10M
L845[13:08:32] <Kubuxu> In JavaOS it would be 10KB
L846[13:08:44] <vifino> ping: the jvm is nice, java is scrap
L847[13:08:45] <Kubuxu> Same as in COS(Linux) but in C
L848[13:09:14] <Kubuxu> vifino: that's why you have scala.
L849[13:09:23] <ping> by 10MB i mean 10MB of ram
L850[13:09:44] <Kubuxu> ping: total ram?
L851[13:09:54] <Pwootage> HotSpot is an incredible piece of technology
L852[13:09:57] <ping> ...
L853[13:09:59] <Pwootage> it is incredibly cpu efficent
L854[13:10:01] <ping> no the unused ram
L855[13:10:11] <Pwootage> Memory is irrelevant 99.5% of the time
L856[13:10:50] <ping> > my simple application uses 200MB of ram, but who cares because its cpu efficient
L857[13:10:52] <Pwootage> (unrelated, from my FS implementation: "goto done; //WHAT HAVE I DONE")
L858[13:11:05] <Pwootage> exactly
L859[13:11:11] <Pwootage> unless you're running out of ram who cares?
L860[13:11:27] <Pwootage> The servers I run java on have on the order of 128gb of ram, 200mb is nothing
L861[13:11:30] <Kubuxu> ping: w/o libs program in C and program in Java are similar in size. Difference is that for C you have libs NATIVE in system. For Java not.
L862[13:12:04] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: there is a good chunk of reflection/classloader/vm overhead compared to C
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L864[13:12:32] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: there is but main difference is in Libs.
L865[13:13:18] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: for sure. If you counted glibc for every process, you'd get about that much overhead (ofc that library is loaded shared)
L866[13:13:38] <Kubuxu> Pwootage: now imagine JavaOS
L867[13:14:18] <Pwootage> I actually had a really interesting idea for a java bytecode-based OS... I just didn't want to try to port hotspot or write my own VM :P
L868[13:14:21] <Kubuxu> Same sharing system. WIth about 10% overhaed.
L869[13:14:26] <Kubuxu> or even 50
L870[13:14:27] <Kubuxu> %
L871[13:14:32] <Kubuxu> Still less than 10MB
L872[13:14:50] <Pwootage> (well, not necessarily java-based, just bytecode-based)
L873[13:14:58] <Kubuxu> Yes
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L876[13:45:14] * Lizzy prds Caitlyn
L877[13:45:29] <Caitlyn> I didn't effing DO IT!
L878[13:45:39] <Lizzy> i didn't say you did
L879[13:45:43] <Caitlyn> Oh
L880[13:45:44] <Caitlyn> Erm
L881[13:45:45] <Caitlyn> Hai
L882[13:46:03] <Lizzy> anyway, mind linking me to that converter again?
L883[13:46:54] <Caitlyn> https://github.com/Cronus89/Atheme2Anope
L884[13:47:02] <Caitlyn> you'll have to have php installed to run it :P
L885[13:47:24] <meto> Caitlyn
L886[13:47:42] <Caitlyn> meto, yes..?
L887[13:47:46] <meto> sorry
L888[13:48:01] <Lizzy> Caitlyn, where the database be stored?
L889[13:48:38] <Caitlyn> for Atheme..? Umm wherever atheme installed/etc
L890[13:48:45] <Lizzy> ok
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L892[13:54:29] <Lizzy> now, how is the best way to get this to you
L893[13:55:23] <Caitlyn> idk.. upload it somewhere? :p
L894[13:55:40] <Lizzy> i'll just use my pc's webserver :P
L895[13:57:00] <Lizzy> Caitlyn, i pm'd you
L896[13:57:05] <Caitlyn> I got it
L897[13:57:20] <Caitlyn> I think I'm going to have to do it by hand.. :P
L898[13:57:50] <Lizzy> :P
L899[13:58:05] <Lizzy> there shouldn't be too many conflicts in terms of users
L900[13:58:19] <Lizzy> anyway, i'm gonna go get dinner
L901[13:58:30] <Caitlyn> kk
L902[14:02:23] <Lizzy> i have returned with dinner
L903[14:04:42] <Caitlyn> ugh this is gonna be fun..
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L907[14:13:18] <CompanionCube> Skye, how are you?
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L912[14:28:14] <Skye> CompanionCube, tired
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L918[15:06:52] <ds84182> Cruor: Hai. I put python in lua. Attack me.
L919[15:07:06] * Skye hugs ds84182
L920[15:07:07] <Skye> :p
L921[15:07:10] <ds84182> print(luapy.import("sys").platform)
L922[15:08:08] <ds84182> All I did was use SWIG and make a Lua Wrapper around stuff
L923[15:08:48] <ds84182> The lua wrapper is quite crap, but it works :P
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L925[15:12:58] <Cruor> oh god why
L926[15:14:43] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L927[15:14:49] <ds84182> =lua newproxy
L928[15:14:56] <ds84182> wait
L929[15:14:58] <ds84182> #lua newproxy
L930[15:15:02] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L931[15:15:04] <ds84182> k
L932[15:15:07] <ds84182> aww
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L953[16:37:06] <CompanionCube> Skye, http://gofana-storagecube.rhcloud.com/#/dashboard/db/system-overview
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L960[16:55:56] <matt__> hello
L961[16:56:41] <matt__> is there a way that i can print other things on another opencomputers pc from my tablet?
L962[16:58:16] <matt__> i already created a slave bios for it and a master program for my tablet but how do i print things into my slave server's shell?
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L965[17:04:42] <Wuerfel_21> matt__, gpu component?
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L968[17:07:17] <Pwootage> Woo, my filesystem works! You can create and delete files and stuff! Now to make it accessible from assembly... D:
L969[17:07:32] <matt__> hey pwootage?
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L971[17:07:43] <Pwootage> Hello
L972[17:08:23] <Pwootage> OpenOS is single process - you have to write your own shell or at least a program that watches for those changes
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L974[17:08:42] <matt__> pwootage are you good with lua programing?
L975[17:09:35] <Pwootage> I'm alright, but I'm not going to write it for you :)
L976[17:10:09] <matt__> i already wrote a script that is a default bios,but at the same time a slave bios
L977[17:10:21] <matt__> and i got the master script on my tablet
L978[17:10:49] <matt__> is there a way i can insert things into the server shell from the tablet lua interpreter?
L979[17:11:06] <matt__> cause they are both linked without interference
L980[17:11:24] <matt__> i can run things in the background from the tablet on the server
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L987[17:27:58] <Lizzy> #p
L988[17:27:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.157 Seconds passed.
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L1003[18:23:15] <number5> Is that an OC bot sitting at certain Minecraft instance?
L1004[18:23:47] <TabletCube> ?
L1005[18:26:12] <number5> I mean |0xDEADBEEF|
L1006[18:27:03] <TabletCube> vifino: ^
L1007[18:27:50] <number5> looks like a ruby bot, very disappointed
L1008[18:32:38] <Soni> say someone makes a game that has a hook for everything
L1009[18:32:58] <Soni> and claims it needs no ASM
L1010[18:33:16] <Soni> then someone wants to replace HALF THE FUCKING CODE with their own
L1011[18:33:25] <Soni> would they be able to do it with the hooks?
L1012[18:34:00] <Gopher> if you want to replace "HALF THE FUCKING CODE" with your own, you should just make your own fucking game.
L1013[18:35:03] <Soni> eh true .-.
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L1015[18:47:14] <vifino> number5: Huh?
L1016[18:48:26] <vifino> number5: If you want a lua bot, go look at https://github.com/vifino/---
L1017[18:49:22] <vifino> It's some nice bot I did once.
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L1019[18:49:51] <number5> vifino: just kidding. --- is a good name btw
L1020[18:50:10] <vifino> It's actuall ]-[, but github doesn't like it
L1021[18:51:23] <vifino> number5: https://github.com/vifino/Hecta ;)
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L1023[18:54:57] <vifino> But yeah, |0xDEADBEEF| is in ruby and not lua.
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L1025[18:59:10] <Soni> does anyone care about BSD?
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L1038[20:00:24] <Temia> Soni, I've made the occasional poke at it but I haven't looked too closely.
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L1044[20:09:39] <ds84182> I'm going to port Minecraft to Android by using jeezuz majik
L1045[20:09:50] <ds84182> What version should I use?
L1046[20:09:51] <ds84182> 1.8?
L1047[20:10:09] * ds84182 pushes Soni off a cliff.
L1048[20:10:16] <ds84182> meto, you too.
L1049[20:10:39] <Soni> thank you
L1050[20:10:49] <ds84182> urwalecum
L1051[20:10:58] <ds84182> now what version should I target
L1052[20:11:06] <ds84182> Lowest is 1.6.4, highest is 1.8
L1053[20:11:10] <Soni> 1.7?
L1054[20:11:22] <Soni> 1.8 is bad
L1055[20:11:32] <ds84182> Yeah, I don't want to deal with 1.8
L1056[20:11:55] <ds84182> Anyways, getting MCP, going to decompile and stick it into Android Studio
L1057[20:12:03] <Soni> while you're at it add forge and OC
L1058[20:12:04] <ds84182> Lets see what errors get thrown at me.
L1059[20:12:08] <ds84182> Soni: no and no
L1060[20:12:14] <Soni> ;_;
L1061[20:12:21] <ds84182> I want to do just Vanilla for right now
L1062[20:12:26] <Soni> meh fine
L1063[20:12:36] <ds84182> I atleast want to get to a place where I have available patches
L1064[20:12:45] <Soni> you'll have to port LWJGL
L1065[20:12:46] <ds84182> Once I have patches then you can attempt to patch forge with it
L1066[20:12:56] <ds84182> Soni: I'm doing away with LWJGL
L1067[20:13:11] <Soni> why?
L1068[20:13:17] <ds84182> OpenGL ES 2.0 is way different than the GL MC uses
L1069[20:13:24] <Soni> meh
L1070[20:13:40] <Soni> MC uses OpenGL 1.1
L1071[20:13:47] <ds84182> Soni: exactly my point
L1072[20:13:55] <ds84182> 1.1 is fixed function, ES2.0 is not
L1073[20:14:08] <Soni> abstract it
L1074[20:14:14] <ds84182> Not happening
L1075[20:14:18] <Soni> ;_;
L1076[20:14:22] <Soni> most mods rely on it
L1077[20:14:26] <ds84182> The overhead caused by 1.1 is already too much
L1078[20:14:33] <ds84182> Soni: and thats why I'm doing Vanilla
L1079[20:14:44] <Soni> ;_;
L1080[20:14:44] <ds84182> If a mod wants GL11, it can fuck off
L1081[20:14:48] <Soni> so no thaumcraft? ;_;
L1082[20:14:54] <ds84182> Nope
L1083[20:14:56] <ds84182> and no OC
L1084[20:14:58] <Soni> ;_;
L1085[20:14:59] <ds84182> and CC
L1086[20:15:01] <Soni> please ;_;
L1087[20:15:03] <ds84182> and RP2
L1088[20:15:05] <ds84182> and BP
L1089[20:15:08] <ds84182> and PR
L1090[20:15:12] <ds84182> and BC
L1091[20:15:15] <ds84182> and IC2
L1092[20:15:19] <Soni> why ;_;
L1093[20:15:30] <ds84182> Because I am not making a GL1.1 wrapper
L1094[20:15:37] <Soni> please ;_;
L1095[20:15:40] * TwoWholeWorms hands ds84182 a new keyboard, as his comma key is evidently broken. >.<
L1096[20:15:57] <ds84182> ES2.0 takes vertex arrays, 1.1 takes vertex crap in single functions
L1097[20:16:07] <Soni> yeah
L1098[20:16:23] <Soni> shouldn't be too hard
L1099[20:16:30] <ds84182> The overhead of me filling a buffer with vertices all the time is fucking huge
L1100[20:16:37] <Soni> >.>
L1101[20:16:48] <ds84182> I'm targeting ANDROID which supports CELL PHONES
L1102[20:17:05] <ds84182> Not regular COMPUTERS with DESKTOP JAVA
L1103[20:17:15] <Soni> android also works on computers
L1104[20:17:18] <ds84182> You learned 6 new key words today
L1105[20:17:21] <ds84182> Soni: and?
L1106[20:17:26] <ds84182> Thats not the point
L1107[20:17:31] <ds84182> Windows doesn't work on Android
L1108[20:17:44] <Soni> nobody cares about windows
L1109[20:17:45] <ds84182> Just because it works one way doesn't mean it works the other.
L1110[20:17:46] <Soni> android is linux
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L1112[20:18:12] <ds84182> I can push you off a cliff, doesn't mean I can push you back on the cliff.
L1113[20:18:25] <ds84182> Without fucktons of work
L1114[20:18:26] <Soni> install mesa on android and we'll talk
L1115[20:18:29] <ds84182> and overhead
L1116[20:18:33] <ds84182> Soni: not happening
L1117[20:18:38] <ds84182> Not compatible at all.
L1118[20:18:46] <Soni> then shut the fuck up and get to work
L1119[20:18:54] <ds84182> No you shut the fuck up
L1120[20:19:05] <Soni> you're the one who started this
L1121[20:19:14] <ds84182> I'll end it with a bang
L1122[20:19:20] <ds84182> U ded
L1123[20:19:25] <Soni> Caitlyn, u there?
L1124[20:19:36] <Soni> (or any other op for that matter)
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L1126[20:40:56] <ds84182> Ok, got Minecraft fully decompiled
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L1128[20:58:05] <ds84182> I just threw Minecraft Source Code into Android Studio. Lets see how much is broken without libs.
L1129[21:06:07] <ds84182> Ok, so most stuff in Minecraft source compiles.
L1130[21:06:17] <ds84182> It's enough to be able to spawn a server on my phone.
L1131[21:06:33] <ds84182> I should test that right now..
L1132[21:06:34] <ds84182> .
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L1134[21:42:26] <Sangar> o/
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L1136[21:46:03] <Pwootage> aaaaah the power was out
L1137[21:46:05] <Pwootage> that was scary
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L1144[23:15:03] <Kamran> Hey Sangar
L1145[23:19:59] <^v> [OpenComputers] http://git.io/p8VI shortybsd commented on issue ( Robot Permission )
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L1149[23:40:16] <shortybsd> any reason my robot will only work with move and forward doesn't even show up as a function. Same goes for turnLeft only has a base method as in turn with a side #
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L1153[23:46:34] <shortybsd> ahh i think it was my luabios
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