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L1[00:00:01] <lperkins2> >>> x=2 ** (256*(512 ** 2))
L2[00:00:15] <lperkins2> this is why I like python, I recommend not trying to print that...
L3[00:00:22] <lperkins2> that takes ~.75 seconds for my machine
L4[00:00:53] <gamax92> i printed it.
L5[00:01:14] <lperkins2> heh, printing x, still going, the terminal scroll speed isn't fast enough.
L6[00:01:24] <gamax92> for me my python hung
L7[00:01:36] <gamax92> its put literally nothing out yet.
L8[00:01:53] <lperkins2> knock it back to 2**(512**2)
L9[00:02:20] <lperkins2> When you print it, it builds the entire output string before it begins printing
L10[00:02:28] <gamax92> oh
L11[00:02:50] <lperkins2> yeah, python's one major shortcoming is in its string handling.
L12[00:03:03] <gamax92> lua 512^2
L13[00:03:05] <gamax92> #lua 512^2
L14[00:03:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 262144
L15[00:03:19] <lperkins2> the number one bottleneck run into is in stuff that builds up and tears down strings
L16[00:04:11] <lperkins2> but I've not found anything that can match its number handling
L17[00:04:34] <lperkins2> infinite precision floating point, no maximum value for numbers
L18[00:04:44] <lperkins2> well, subject only to memory and processor limits anyway
L19[00:05:18] <lperkins2> since a lot of what I use it for is chemistry, being able to be precise at 6.2e-23 is handy
L20[00:05:50] <gamax92> imma see how long it takes for libcalc to calculate 2^(512^2)
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L22[00:07:01] <lperkins2> and of course, built-in support for Decimals when you need to avoid the whole 0.1==0.100000000000001 thing
L23[00:07:35] <lperkins2> still going?
L24[00:07:38] <gamax92> lol yes
L25[00:08:15] <lperkins2> heh
L26[00:08:19] <gamax92> its doing 256 multiplications of huge numbers, in software
L27[00:08:49] <gamax92> python's math lib seems useful
L28[00:09:00] <lperkins2> that's just the built in one, too,
L29[00:09:10] <gamax92> were it not for having to build the entire string
L30[00:09:38] <lperkins2> you can get access to C's speed if you use numpy for your stuff, of course that bring in the limits of precision and maximum value inherent to C,
L31[00:09:56] <lperkins2> yeah, like I said, python's string libraries are piss poor,
L32[00:10:02] <gamax92> i should probably make faster multiplication routines ...
L33[00:10:14] <lperkins2> due to being immutable mostly,
L34[00:10:30] <lperkins2> makes it so anything which needs to 'modify' a string really ends up copying the entire string
L35[00:10:36] <gamax92> instead of like doing it number by number, like the elementary method
L36[00:10:58] <gamax92> i.e, will never complete in the next century
L37[00:11:00] <lperkins2> so the standard accumulator pattern, a='', for i in range(10): a+=str(i) creates 11 string
L38[00:11:24] <lperkins2> hm, no, converting it to the string isn't the slow part,
L39[00:11:30] <lperkins2> it's the actual print routine, I wonder why...
L40[00:11:45] <gamax92> did you find a way to print it faster?
L41[00:12:09] <lperkins2> maybe, let's try...
L42[00:12:39] <lperkins2> nope,
L43[00:13:05] <lperkins2> y=str(x) completes in ~0.1 seconds
L44[00:13:15] <lperkins2> print(y) hangs a long time
L45[00:13:21] <lperkins2> sys.stdout.write(y) hangs
L46[00:13:35] <lperkins2> open('/tmp/tst','w').write(y) hangs...
L47[00:13:40] <lperkins2> maybe something in tmpfs...
L48[00:13:55] <lperkins2> that goes fast.
L49[00:14:27] <lperkins2> open('/dev/stdout','w').write(y) goes really fast
L50[00:14:37] <lperkins2> must be something in the way sys.stdout is buffered...
L51[00:14:44] <gamax92> lol ...
L52[00:15:34] <gamax92> lperkins2: http://hastebin.com/owixuwuceh.lua sloooooooooooow
L53[00:15:36] <lperkins2> str(2**(64*512**2) is slow
L54[00:16:54] <lperkins2> that the thing that executed that code?
L55[00:17:08] <gamax92> well it does the multiplication part
L56[00:17:20] <lperkins2> ah
L57[00:18:27] <lperkins2> you have a solution for my little robot issue?
L58[00:18:31] <gamax92> nope
L59[00:19:20] <lperkins2> I wonder if I could pester sangar into adding a switch to the inventory controller to force it to behave sanely...
L60[00:19:55] <gamax92> hmm, avoiding string concats makes for much faster code
L61[00:20:30] <lperkins2> I would expect it to
L62[00:20:37] <lperkins2> store them as individual elements in the table
L63[00:20:43] <lperkins2> and only concat them once at the end
L64[00:22:39] <Kubuxu> lperkins2: It would ctill cost #table concatenations.
L65[00:22:57] <Kubuxu> lperkins2: But you could do that in log2(#table)
L66[00:23:03] <lperkins2> right.
L67[00:23:03] <gamax92> >table concatenations
L68[00:23:09] <gamax92> clearly you do not know how tables work
L69[00:23:20] <Kubuxu> #table as lenght of table.
L70[00:23:26] <Kubuxu> gamax92 ^
L71[00:24:05] <lperkins2> hm, shouldn't take that long, if lua's smart about it...
L72[00:24:05] <Kubuxu> You want to add something gamax92?
L73[00:24:14] <lperkins2> allocate enough memory for the entire combined string
L74[00:24:25] <Kubuxu> lperkins2: 1st principle of lua. Everything is simple.
L75[00:24:25] <lperkins2> and memcpy the source string to the destination string
L76[00:24:48] <lperkins2> unless the table.concat doesn't actually do that.
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L78[00:25:04] <lperkins2> should complete in O(#table)
L79[00:25:29] <lperkins2> er, more or less,
L80[00:25:32] <gamax92> http://hastebin.com/zakasehuyi.txt tconcat function
L81[00:26:40] <Kubuxu> gamax92: so it is O(#table)
L82[00:26:59] <gamax92> :D
L83[00:27:06] <lperkins2> discounting the varying length of the constituent parts memcpys.
L84[00:27:41] <Kubuxu> For me question is if done in lue using divide method, O(log2(#table), theroretically it would be faster.
L85[00:28:16] <Kubuxu> s/\)/\)\)
L86[00:28:16] <Kibibyte> <Kubuxu> For me question is if done in lue using divide method, O(log2(#table)), theroretically it would be faster.
L87[00:28:17] <lperkins2> Be O1(#table) + O2(#output)
L88[00:28:38] <lperkins2> hm, I don't know the divide method for string concat, how does it work?
L89[00:29:05] <Kubuxu> You take pairs concat, then concat pairs into pairs pairs.
L90[00:29:08] <Kubuxu> And so on.
L91[00:29:29] <Kubuxu> It is sorry it will be not Log2(n)
L92[00:30:14] <lperkins2> how do you get faster than allocating the total memory needed and copying each section in sequentially?
L93[00:31:46] <Kubuxu> lperkins2: wait, thinking.
L94[00:32:50] <Kubuxu> lperkins2: sorry, I made a mistake. You won't get faster than O(n-1) for concat.
L95[00:33:09] <lperkins2> Okay, that's what I thought.
L96[00:33:54] <lperkins2> You might be able to cut to to O(n/number-of-cores), but only if you're talking very large strings.
L97[00:34:39] <Kubuxu> Writting program in AVR ASM. There is no add constant operation. You have to use subtract constant and pass -n/. It is stupid.
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L100[00:39:37] <Vexatos> \o
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L103[00:45:26] <Izaya> o/
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L106[00:49:21] <lperkins2> heh, that was an oddity I found in python,
L107[00:49:35] <lperkins2> a=0; a+=5
L108[00:49:40] <lperkins2> is slower than a=0; a-=-5
L109[00:49:54] <lperkins2> because of the operator overloading involved in the += and + operators,
L110[00:50:02] <asie> what
L111[00:50:08] <asie> that's some javascript-level insanity
L112[00:50:25] <Vexatos> level(python)===level(javascript)
L113[00:50:33] <asie> Vexatos: still false, nice try
L114[00:50:36] <lperkins2> the speed difference is minor,
L115[00:50:40] <Vexatos> Hurr
L116[00:50:55] <lperkins2> but over the course of say, a hundred million operations, it is enough for a timing script to detect
L117[00:51:13] <Kubuxu> lperkins2: But instead of addi r16, 5 I have to write subi r16, -5.
L118[00:51:15] <Kubuxu> WTF.
L119[00:51:34] <lperkins2> right, that's not just a speed difference, that's something obvious missing
L120[00:51:44] <lperkins2> wouldn't it make more sense to only have an addition operator?
L121[00:52:23] <Kubuxu> I don't know. Looks like AVR's experts disagree with our opinion.
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L123[00:55:07] <lperkins2> hm, I just reran the test script from back with python2.5 and in 2.7 + seems to be faster than -
L124[00:56:13] <lperkins2> or my computer's load is too unpredictable with this much crap going on...
L125[00:57:26] <lperkins2> there we go
L126[00:57:40] <lperkins2> run it on my server which has a couple cores free and the results are what I expected
L127[00:58:11] <lperkins2> about 0.5 seconds difference running 100,000,000 iterations of x+=1 vs x-=-1
L128[00:58:24] <gamax92> sooo ... not worth it
L129[00:58:50] <lperkins2> not unless you're in a coding competition for fastest code
L130[00:58:59] <lperkins2> doing something math heavy
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L133[00:59:46] <lperkins2> the reason is there's like an extra 10 lines in the C implementation of op.add vs op.sub due to the need to identify if it is a string or a number being added
L134[00:59:56] <lperkins2> since python uses + instead of .. for string concat
L135[01:00:17] <lperkins2> (+ the possibilty that it's a set or list or tuple being added)
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L140[01:38:18] <asie> Vexatos: you got a reply
L141[01:39:05] <Vexatos> Hurr hurr
L142[01:39:15] <Vexatos> asie: The array was a good idea, the API was a Soni idea :P
L143[01:39:28] <asie> Vexatos: he, he, he.
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L145[01:40:47] <Vexatos> asie: By the way. Should the creative chat box be unbreakable when not in creative mode?
L146[01:41:04] <asie> no, however it should drop nothing
L147[01:41:07] <asie> or a plain chat box
L148[01:41:10] <Vexatos> Ah
L149[01:41:12] <asie> (which is what your patch broke)
L150[01:41:14] <Vexatos> Yea
L151[01:41:19] <asie> (replace a damageDropped override with a getPickBlock override)
L152[01:41:24] <asie> (then it will drop plain boxes)
L153[01:41:29] <Vexatos> It did that before
L154[01:41:34] <asie> so do it better
L155[01:41:38] <Vexatos> as the metadata in damageDropepd is 0
L156[01:41:42] <Vexatos> by default
L157[01:42:14] <Vexatos> So, asie, normal chat box? Wouldn't that still return a creative one with silk touch?
L158[01:42:31] <asie> you'd need to check
L159[01:42:46] <asie> or maybe keep it as-is
L160[01:42:48] <asie> i mean
L161[01:42:53] <asie> if you let your players break a creative 'box
L162[01:43:23] <Vexatos> Indeed. They don't belong in a survival world anyway :P
L163[01:43:32] <asie> yup
L164[01:43:36] <asie> *awaits inevitable Soni complaint*
L165[01:43:40] <Vexatos> at least not without a pretty coating of bedrock
L166[01:44:02] <Vexatos> So, should I change it back to drop a normal box again?
L167[01:44:10] <asie> nah
L168[01:44:14] <Vexatos> Ok
L169[01:44:20] <asie> jusg
L170[01:44:22] <asie> just
L171[01:44:24] <asie> document the change
L172[01:44:28] <Vexatos> Of course
L173[01:44:38] <Vexatos> will be in changelog.md, just haven't pushed that yet
L174[01:49:11] <Izaya> samba is hard
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L182[02:32:29] <Izaya> Woo, got samba printers showing, now to find some paper...
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L191[03:29:32] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Izaya
L192[03:32:47] <Lizzy> o/
L193[03:36:10] * Izaya cuddles DeanIsaKitty
L194[03:36:19] <Izaya> \o/
L195[03:37:23] <Lizzy> DEANISAKITTY!!! \o/ \o/
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L197[03:40:16] <DeanIsaKitty> LIZZYY!!! \o/
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L201[03:57:21] <Lizzy> \o/ intermittant ssh tunnels
L202[03:58:05] * Lizzy hugs DeanIsaKitty
L203[03:58:10] <Lizzy> how have you been?
L204[03:58:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Fine, how about you?
L205[03:59:57] <Lizzy> I'm well, tired. but well
L206[04:03:29] <dangranos> http://qdb.us/31256
L207[04:03:31] <dangranos> heh
L208[04:32:43] <Soni> how much does a .com domain cost?
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L210[04:41:54] <Izaya> Soni: $20/year, IIRC
L211[04:45:27] <Izaya> dangranos: http://qdb.us/57117
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L214[05:05:19] <Soni> Izaya, I need something cheaper than that
L215[05:05:47] <Izaya> You could probably get it cheaper.
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L217[05:20:29] <Lizzy> Soni, it all depends on where you get it from
L218[05:20:42] <Soni> what's a good place to get it from?
L219[05:20:48] * Lizzy shrugs
L220[05:20:52] <Lizzy> tried google?
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L224[05:41:01] <Soni> idk how to google for this stuff
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L228[06:10:20] <Timmy94> Hello, Where i can find the permissions for a public modpack?
L229[06:14:43] <Lizzy> Timmy94, OC is MIT
L230[06:21:11] <Caitlyn> namecheap is 9.90 or so a year...
L231[06:21:20] <Caitlyn> Soni, ^
L232[06:23:36] <Kubuxu> Caitlyn: look up next year price.
L233[06:23:59] <Kubuxu> Soni: Which TLD?
L234[06:24:10] <Soni> .com
L235[06:24:34] <Caitlyn> Oh good tablet lost wifi...
L236[06:27:04] <Soni> WAIT THEY TAKE BITCOIN?!
L237[06:28:31] <Caitlyn> Also im pretty sure namecheap is the same price for renewals... 10.69 after the fees and shit
L238[06:31:29] <Caitlyn> Im sorry 10.87 with the icaan fee
L239[06:32:37] <Kubuxu> Are we using dolar or pounds?
L240[06:33:00] <Caitlyn> Well.. I'm in the US..
L241[06:33:02] <Caitlyn> so..
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L245[06:35:05] <Kubuxu> Soni: You won't get much chaper but there you are sure that renewal dont cost fortune.
L246[06:35:08] <Kubuxu> https://www.ovh.co.uk/domains/dotcom.xml
L247[06:35:29] <Caitlyn> namecheap doesn't cost a fortune for renewals either... :P
L248[06:37:29] <Kubuxu> Caitlyn: I don't trus much when something has cheap in price. there is corelation b/t cheap in name and they cheaping on you.
L249[06:37:44] <Caitlyn> Kubuxu, it's like .10 MORE then ovh.
L250[06:37:53] <Caitlyn> so... you're saying you don't trust OVH too?
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L252[06:38:32] <Caitlyn> 6.99 to USD is 10.79ish or so
L253[06:38:41] <Caitlyn> so it's 8 cents.. my bad
L254[06:38:47] <Caitlyn> I can't math it's early and I slept for crap
L255[06:39:12] <Kubuxu> Caitlyn: As far as I know OVH dont have cheap in price.
L256[06:39:23] <Caitlyn> "cheap in price" o_O
L257[06:39:37] <Kubuxu> s/price/name
L258[06:39:37] <Kibibyte> <Caitlyn> "cheap in name" o_O
L259[06:39:41] <Kubuxu> :C
L260[06:40:02] <Caitlyn> lol that's your logic though, that's great.
L261[06:40:11] <Caitlyn> Oh they use cheap in their name they're obvs gonna rob you
L262[06:40:29] <Caitlyn> except my boss has been using them for *years* for domains and ssl certs with 0 issue.
L263[06:40:32] <Kubuxu> Caitlyn: No, probability is grater.
L264[06:41:04] <Kubuxu> Caitlyn: is same as you don't use Windows optimizing programs with Magic in name.
L265[06:41:22] <Caitlyn> Except those are obvious scams...
L266[06:41:39] <Caitlyn> a company with the word cheap in their name does not a scam make
L267[06:41:42] <Kubuxu> Caitlyn: Not always.
L268[06:41:49] <Caitlyn> drop it.
L269[06:41:54] <Caitlyn> I'm tired of arguing with you.
L270[06:42:01] <Kubuxu> kk
L271[06:42:11] <Kubuxu> Why? Did we already started.
L272[06:42:14] <Kubuxu> ?
L273[06:42:26] <Caitlyn> Drop it.
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L278[07:14:09] <nxsupert> o/
L279[07:16:11] <dangranos> http://imgur.com/gallery/4Tpy9
L280[07:16:28] <dangranos> i really how its real and alive
L281[07:16:33] <dangranos> *hope
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L304[08:37:54] <Vexatos> \o
L305[08:42:29] <SkySom> o/
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L308[08:56:15] <Soni> o/
L309[08:56:19] <Soni> hi vex
L310[08:56:32] <Soni> you hate APIs don't you?
L311[08:56:41] <Vexatos> I hate stupid ideas :)
L312[08:56:49] <Soni> stupid?
L313[08:57:30] <SkySom> I hate everyone.
L314[08:57:35] <SkySom> I mean... Oh hello everyone
L315[08:57:57] <Soni> vex, fine, is rewriting noteblocks a stupid idea?
L316[08:58:35] <Soni> it would solve literally every problem I've found with them so far
L317[08:58:38] <Soni> which's a lot
L318[08:58:59] <SkySom> Would it break everything ever written to use them?
L319[08:59:06] <Soni> not really
L320[08:59:34] <Soni> or rather not at all
L321[09:01:07] <Soni> uhh great
L322[09:01:10] <Soni> forge is anti-ASM
L323[09:01:15] <Soni> 1 day ban :/
L324[09:01:59] <SkySom> There's not so much anti-ASM as "If you have to ask how, you shouldn't"
L325[09:02:49] <SkySom> So what problems do you have with the noteblocks?
L326[09:04:18] <gamax92> hmm
L327[09:04:46] <gamax92> according to wolfram log10(2^(512^2)) is ~78913
L328[09:05:09] <gamax92> I'm at 36031 digits so far
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L332[09:23:27] <Soni> I understand what it's for
L333[09:23:39] <Soni> but idk the API and stuff
L334[09:27:09] <gamax92> I feel like the forge channel is like "Hi?" "BAN! Didn't immediately ask a question."
L335[09:27:57] <SkySom> Pretty much.
L336[09:28:14] <gamax92> "*joins*" "BAN! Needed help."
L337[09:29:04] <gamax92> I should note that my libcalc is 22 multiplications away from having 2^(512^2)
L338[09:30:25] <gamax92> 12 multiplications
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L340[09:30:42] <Caitlyn> %calc 2^(512^2)
L341[09:30:42] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: ∞
L342[09:30:43] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬
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L344[09:31:36] <gamax92> it calculated it
L345[09:32:37] <SkySom> Heh MichiBot just gave up :D
L346[09:33:05] <Caitlyn> google'
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L348[09:33:14] <Caitlyn> 's calculator gives up too :P
L349[09:34:09] <SkySom> WA got it.
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L353[09:39:43] <gamax92> http://hastebin.com/raluforaqa.txt
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L355[09:40:39] <Gopher> even more useful than the last one
L356[09:40:48] <Gopher> I take it you implemented pow?
L357[09:41:44] <gamax92> no
L358[09:41:48] <gamax92> is still lua's
L359[09:42:14] <Gopher> ah, you cheated, limiting to 2^1023 and then multiplying a bunch
L360[09:42:23] <gamax92> yup
L361[09:42:29] <Gopher> so get back to work.
L362[09:46:30] <Kodos> <LexManos> but ya, multi-mine and dynamic lights are pretty legit for using asm
L363[09:46:34] <Kodos> So -now- he's okay with ASM
L364[09:46:36] <Kodos> as long as it's 'legit'
L365[09:47:11] <Caitlyn> Lex's main issue with ASM is people using it to modify forge
L366[09:47:35] <Kodos> If he was more open to the PRs people submit, they wouldn't need to ASM it
L367[09:47:43] <Caitlyn> I'm not defending him...
L368[09:47:46] <Caitlyn> I'm just saying
L369[09:47:47] <Kodos> I know
L370[09:48:08] <Caitlyn> Personally I can't stand him :D
L371[09:48:14] <Stary2001> heh
L372[09:50:57] <Kodos> Meh
L373[09:51:00] <Kodos> I'ma go play Xbox before i rage on him
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L376[09:54:02] <gamax92> rage on lex == ban
L377[09:54:05] <Soni> meh, I'm not even trying to modify forge
L378[09:54:18] <Soni> but my changes are too big for a patch
L379[09:55:13] <ds84182> Soni: use asm and access transformers to replace the vanilla noteblock with your own, then provide a backwards compatible API or something
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L381[09:55:25] <Soni> it is backwards compatible
L382[09:55:31] <Soni> altho hmm
L383[09:55:37] <Soni> I'll have to change something in forge
L384[09:55:54] <gamax92> (gasp)
L385[09:56:05] <Soni> minor change, don't worry
L386[09:56:36] <Caitlyn> "Burger King starts online order and home delivery trial in the UK"
L387[09:56:39] <Caitlyn> welp... time to move
L388[09:56:58] <AwesomeDesktopCube> Caitlyn: why
L389[09:57:03] <gamax92> Caitlyn: why
L390[09:57:06] <Caitlyn> <3 Burger King?
L391[09:57:13] <SkySom> Why not is a better question?
L392[09:57:22] <gamax92> Because you'll only live to be 31
L393[09:57:22] <SkySom> BK delivered to my door?
L394[09:57:26] <SkySom> Hell yeah.
L395[09:57:31] <AwesomeDesktopCube> Caitlyn: our government are incompetent asshats on Internet matters.
L396[09:57:37] <Caitlyn> gamax92, then I die in 2 years, I don't care :D
L397[09:57:42] <gamax92> oD:
L398[09:57:48] <gamax92> why is there an o
L399[09:57:51] <Caitlyn> AwesomeDesktopCube, the US isn't a whole lot better buddy.
L400[09:58:15] <AwesomeDesktopCube> Caitlyn: Cameron made a speech saying there should be no method of communication safe from the government.
L401[09:58:43] <Caitlyn> And the NSA makes sure that's the case here as well \o/
L402[09:59:00] <AwesomeDesktopCube> Caitlyn: oh
L403[09:59:09] <AwesomeDesktopCube> and a good few consumer ISPs have default-on filters iirc.
L404[09:59:16] <Caitlyn> It's awesome though... I screwed up and nuked an important file last week...
L405[09:59:23] <Caitlyn> took the NSA 15 minutes to email it back to me
L406[09:59:39] <gamax92> </stolenjokes>
L407[09:59:52] <Caitlyn> Well I made it up, but I'll take your word for it.
L408[10:00:06] * Caitlyn thumbups computer monitor
L409[10:00:31] * SkySom plays laugh track
L410[10:00:31] * gamax92 lights Caitlyn on fire
L411[10:00:33] <SkySom> Oh you
L412[10:00:47] * Caitlyn glines gamax92
L413[10:00:52] <AwesomeDesktopCube> Caitlyn: we do have some neat ISPs here though. Like one that's used phone numbers as a telemarketing honeypot
L414[10:00:57] <gamax92> no pls
L415[10:00:59] <gamax92> pls i beg
L416[10:01:19] <Caitlyn> My ISP is amazing, 20 Mbps for about 4 hours a day, then sub 1 MBps for the other 20
L417[10:01:46] <AwesomeDesktopCube> Caitlyn: lol
L418[10:01:46] <gamax92> Caitlyn: download all the things during that 4 hours
L419[10:02:19] <SkySom> Muh videos
L420[10:02:24] <Caitlyn> sadly that 4 hours is usually when I'm in bed... having responsibilities sucks
L421[10:02:27] * AwesomeDesktopCube wishes he didn't have Sky for the ISP
L422[10:02:43] <AwesomeDesktopCube> Caitlyn: use a small NAS + scripting to DOWNLOAD ALL THE THINGS
L423[10:03:14] <Caitlyn> I have a server with 4 TB of storage sitting next to me :P
L424[10:03:39] <gamax92> mmh, i have to disconnect from the internet real quick .-. occupied USB port is occupied
L425[10:03:52] <Caitlyn> o_O
L426[10:04:32] <Caitlyn> ugh this server bridge is going to piss me off enough I'm gonna have to rewrite it
L427[10:04:45] <AwesomeDesktopCube> server bridge?
L428[10:05:07] <Soni> Q, what is an IBlockState?
L429[10:05:10] <gamax92> I have four ports, 1 has a mouse adapter, 1 has a usb keyboard, one has a cable to my phone (which is tethering internet), and one doesn't work.
L430[10:05:28] * SkySom has 3
L431[10:05:33] <SkySom> Makes it really hard some days.
L432[10:05:38] <Caitlyn> IRC bridge, lets me link networks without doing actual "server links"
L433[10:06:03] <Caitlyn> so I can bridge a channel between 2+ networks and if I'm using intraserver links it even replicates the nicklists
L434[10:06:21] <AwesomeDesktopCube> so....janus?
L435[10:06:22] <SkySom> 1 for mouse, 1 for keyboard, 1 for drive, and then occasionally I need two for the USB to SATA converter
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L437[10:06:33] <Caitlyn> AwesomeDesktopCube, yes exactly janus
L438[10:06:36] <Caitlyn> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-02-19_10-06-23.png
L439[10:06:47] <Caitlyn> the issue is.. it replicates the nicklist on MY network..
L440[10:06:50] <Caitlyn> but not on darknet...
L441[10:07:16] <Caitlyn> anything I say from PC-Logix to DarkNet is said via "<pcl.pc-logix.com>"
L442[10:07:33] <Caitlyn> but if I talk from DarkNet to PC-Logix I get <Michiyo/dnet> Test
L443[10:08:01] <Caitlyn> The issue is that janus isn't introducing the pseudo clients to BOTH networks, just to pc-logix
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L445[10:11:56] <Caitlyn> Also, I have 11 USB ports :p
L446[10:12:10] <SkySom> Well aren't you specially
L447[10:12:12] <Caitlyn> 6 rear, 3 front, and 3 on my keyboard.
L448[10:12:19] <SkySom> I've been meaning to get a powered hub.
L449[10:12:23] <SkySom> Just hasn't been important.
L450[10:12:33] <Caitlyn> err 2 on my keyboard
L451[10:12:48] <SkySom> Just gonna make sure the next laptop has a few extra ones.
L452[10:13:24] <Caitlyn> AwesomeDesktopCube, you've used Janus?
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L454[10:17:02] <vifino> Vexatos: ... What happened to porphyrion?
L455[10:17:56] <Vexatos> No clue
L456[10:20:32] <Vexatos> It just said "Fraud"
L457[10:21:09] * dangranos pokes sks
L458[10:22:08] <Vexatos> vifino ^
L459[10:22:19] <vifino> "Fraud"? wat
L460[10:22:54] <vifino> Vexatos: u brok it ._.
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L462[10:26:15] <Vexatos> vifino, apparently a .tk domain WAS a bad idea
L463[10:26:24] <Lizzy> ?
L464[10:26:25] <vifino> Yes.
L465[10:26:25] <Vexatos> I guess someone simply reported the domain for abuse
L466[10:27:39] <asie> Vexatos: shinonome.ch is expiring on the 25th
L467[10:27:41] <asie> in other words
L468[10:27:43] <asie> we art thou fucketh
L469[10:27:48] <asie> maybe ask Sangar for a cil.li subdomain?
L470[10:27:54] <Vexatos> Yea
L471[10:27:59] <Vexatos> I guess I'll do that
L472[10:28:03] <Vexatos> :P
L473[10:28:23] * Vexatos pokifies Sangar
L474[10:28:51] <vifino> Vexatos: I can give you a tty.sh subdomain ASAP
L475[10:28:56] <Vexatos> Or that
L476[10:29:01] <Vexatos> just, like, uuuh
L477[10:29:08] <Vexatos> what should it be?
L478[10:29:14] <Vexatos> the subdomain name
L479[10:29:27] <vifino> vexatoshasnofuckingcluewhatheisdoing.tty.sh
L480[10:29:52] <Vexatos> wiki.tty.sh is still free :P
L481[10:29:56] <vifino> :v
L482[10:30:04] <SkySom> I like vifino 's idea better.
L483[10:30:11] <Vexatos> pfff
L484[10:30:22] <asie> vifino: can I have dev.tty.sh?
L485[10:30:30] <vifino> asie: Depends.
L486[10:30:33] <asie> On?
L487[10:30:42] <vifino> What you do on it.
L488[10:30:48] <asie> Considered putting up a literal serial port
L489[10:30:49] <vifino> Or what you plan to do with it.
L490[10:30:52] <asie> anything you type in is echoed to everyone else
L491[10:30:57] <asie> and never stored
L492[10:31:22] <asie> or maybe something else.
L493[10:31:23] <vifino> I could instead give you asie.tty.sh ._.
L494[10:31:43] <Vexatos> vifino, would wiki.* work?
L495[10:32:42] <vifino> Vexatos: Many alternatives there: {wiki,files}.vex.tty.sh, mc.tty.sh, etc..
L496[10:32:57] <vifino> I may or may not make a wiki myself, that's why.
L497[10:33:25] <Vexatos> ah
L498[10:34:08] <Vexatos> vifino, just decide on one
L499[10:34:15] <Vexatos> preferably not a sub-subdomain :P
L500[10:34:21] <Vexatos> mc.tty.sh would do
L501[10:34:33] <vifino> Vexatos: Problem is, that you have two sites.
L502[10:34:43] <Vexatos> Ahh
L503[10:34:44] <Vexatos> right
L504[10:34:46] <Vexatos> uuh
L505[10:34:48] <vifino> and the one would just not poof and go away
L506[10:34:51] <Vexatos> wiki.vex then, I guess
L507[10:34:58] <Vexatos> and files.vex
L508[10:35:04] <Vexatos> tty.sh is short enough
L509[10:35:24] <vifino> Mkay.
L510[10:35:33] <vifino> give me... 5 minutes?
L511[10:35:48] <SkySom> Best I can do is 2 and a half
L512[10:36:50] <vifino> done
L513[10:37:02] <vifino> Wasn't exactly 5 minutes, but oh well.
L514[10:37:22] <vifino> Vexatos: *poke*
L515[10:37:30] <Vexatos> ::U
L516[10:37:43] <Vexatos> Thanks
L517[10:37:59] <vifino> Was around a minute.
L518[10:38:03] <vifino> Beat that SkySom.
L519[10:38:36] <SkySom> About a minute and a half from giving an estimate.
L520[10:38:40] <SkySom> But... Not bad good sir
L521[10:39:35] <vifino> :)
L522[10:41:56] <vifino> Vexatos: get yar domain rollin again
L523[10:42:11] <Vexatos> Hurr
L524[10:42:16] <Vexatos> Currently updating NotEnoughMods
L525[10:42:22] <Vexatos> vifino, thank you so much for your help <3
L526[10:42:38] <vifino> No problem.
L527[10:43:06] <vifino> I bought my stuff to benifit me and other people.
L528[10:43:53] <SkySom> Not enough mods?
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L530[10:44:15] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexaton
L531[10:44:20] <Caitlyn> SkySom, #NotEnoughMods
L532[10:44:27] <vifino> Vexatos + Vexaton = ???
L533[10:44:31] <Caitlyn> http://bot.notenoughmods.com/
L534[10:44:52] <SkySom> Oh hello there.
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L538[10:44:58] <SkySom> Where has this been all my life
L539[10:49:00] <Vexatos> Okay, vifino, all references to .tk are gone :P
L540[10:49:06] <Vexatos> Now I'm on a safe domain q_q
L541[10:49:24] <vifino> For now >:D
L542[10:49:35] <SkySom> "safe"
L543[10:49:40] <SkySom> In some sense of the word, right?
L544[10:50:36] <dangranos> ahah
L545[10:51:25] <Vexatos> Indeed
L546[10:53:02] <dangranos> anyone got tox?
L547[10:53:11] *** prasselpikachu is now known as prassel|off
L548[10:54:25] *** alekso56_off is now known as alekso56
L549[10:55:34] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos: Me
L550[10:56:22] *** prassel|off is now known as prasselpikachu
L551[10:57:27] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L552[10:57:43] <Vexatos> Anyone want to test Computronics 1.4.2? I think I am able to release it rather soon
L553[10:57:46] <Vexatos> i.e. this weekend
L554[10:58:20] <SkySom> Hmmm I think I'm not even running the latest.
L555[10:58:32] * SkySom puts that on his update list.
L556[11:00:41] <vifino> HALP
L557[11:00:47] <vifino> my server is outdated!
L558[11:00:56] <vifino> 3.18.5-1-ARCH IS TOO OLD!
L559[11:01:12] <Vexatos> oppm update arch
L560[11:01:13] <Vexatos> hurr
L561[11:01:36] <vifino> 3.18.6-1-ARCH is the current. Outdated 3:
L562[11:02:06] <vifino> ooooh, hhvm got an update.
L563[11:02:08] * dangranos uses current
L564[11:02:30] <vifino> dangranos: Server.
L565[11:02:56] <Vexatos> vifino, I updated my system yesterday. Turned out it completely broke my graphics driver
L566[11:03:04] <vifino> Nice.
L567[11:03:10] <Vexatos> I won't ever update again :P
L568[11:03:18] <vifino> What os?
L569[11:03:21] <dangranos> nvidia?
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L571[11:03:28] <Vexatos> Linux Mint
L572[11:03:32] <Vexatos> and no, AMD
L573[11:03:36] <Lizzy> Vexatos, just dont update your graphics packages
L574[11:03:38] <vifino> dangranos: nvidia drivers dont break on update, amd drivers does.
L575[11:03:44] <Vexatos> Lizzy, I know
L576[11:03:45] <Vexatos> too late
L577[11:03:53] <Vexatos> *NOW* I know
L578[11:03:58] <vifino> AMD is .
L579[11:04:07] <vifino> Nothing more, nothing less.
L580[11:04:13] <dangranos> vifino, they once broke, but it was just X autoconfig
L581[11:04:26] <Vexatos> Yea, so I have to bring my entire PC upstairs to get a LAN connection, download the latest xorg driver and hope it works
L582[11:04:44] <vifino> dangranos: Yeah, you gotta remove the nvidia configs once in a while, but that's all.
L583[11:04:47] <dangranos> always have free fallback drivers
L584[11:04:53] <vifino> And with arch i have no problem at all :D
L585[11:04:54] <Vexatos> Yea
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L587[11:05:02] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> "Failed to set up fallback graphics driver"
L588[11:05:20] <vifino> And I just yesterday mapped λ to a key :D
L589[11:05:25] <vifino> Now i can λ all day.
L590[11:05:28] <Vexatos> I don't even know how to make a driver a fallback one
L591[11:05:50] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L592[11:06:22] <dangranos> i sometimes read it as "lambada" instead of "lambda"
L593[11:06:48] <vifino> I wonder if I can map Shift + ISO Level3 shift + ő to capital λ
L594[11:07:48] <vifino> Yeah, its possible.
L595[11:07:54] <vifino> weeeeee
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L597[11:08:49] <vifino> ΛΛΛ :D
L598[11:08:59] <vifino> Yay, capital lambda's
L599[11:10:19] <Vexatos> VVV :D
L600[11:10:25] <vifino> >_<
L601[11:10:36] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L602[11:10:47] <Vexatos> I wonder what would happen if I completely removed my AMD driver package
L603[11:12:27] <Caitlyn> \o/ sata connector just snapped off one of my drives
L604[11:12:55] <vifino> gg Caitlyn
L605[11:14:05] <Caitlyn> glued it back on and it's detected \o/
L606[11:14:46] <dangranos> damn
L607[11:15:03] <vifino> Am I the only one that thinks Caitlyn is one of the few people who would superglue a drive back on?
L608[11:15:06] <dangranos> that font has "П"-like "Л"s
L609[11:15:26] * Lizzy super glues vifino to the wall
L610[11:15:36] * vifino cries
L611[11:16:00] * ds84182 superglues the superglue remover to the wall.
L612[11:16:13] * SkySom superglues himself to the wall
L613[11:16:14] <SkySom> Wait
L614[11:16:16] <SkySom> Shit
L615[11:16:35] * dangranos superglues superglue to wall
L616[11:16:42] * vifino grabs Lizzy and holds onto her
L617[11:16:46] <dangranos> s/wall/superglue
L618[11:16:46] <Kibibyte> * dangranos superglues superglue to superglue
L619[11:16:57] * Lizzy melts away
L620[11:17:00] <vifino> D:
L621[11:17:01] <dangranos> *superglued superglue
L622[11:17:15] <SkySom> Keep going dangranos you'll be there eventually :D
L623[11:17:23] <dangranos> where?
L624[11:17:31] <Lizzy> superglue
L625[11:17:38] * Negi takes out of his pocket a spare superglue remover !
L626[11:17:44] * vifino throws λ's at Lizzy
L627[11:17:48] * SkySom superglues Negi to the wall
L628[11:18:01] <Lizzy> that looks like the Half life logo on here
L629[11:18:03] <SkySom> Good luck applying it now
L630[11:18:16] * dangranos superglues superglued superglue with superglued superglue to superglue superglued to wall that superglued to something superglued
L631[11:18:17] * Negi screams.
L632[11:18:26] * Lizzy superglues SkySom's hands to their face
L633[11:18:32] <ds84182> wat
L634[11:18:38] <dangranos> their?
L635[11:18:40] * Negi is unsuperglued through the magic of Internet \o
L636[11:18:51] * ds84182 superglues the ban hammer to the wall.
L637[11:18:54] * SkySom runs around in circles
L638[11:18:55] <Negi> dangranos : They/Them/Their can be used as neutral pronouns.
L639[11:18:56] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L640[11:19:01] <Negi> ds84182: Yes.
L641[11:19:05] * dangranos superglues negi to superglued superglue with wall
L642[11:19:07] <dangranos> wai
L643[11:19:14] <vifino> o_O
L644[11:19:21] * Negi eats dangranos.
L645[11:19:26] <dangranos> you cant
L646[11:19:26] * vifino frees himself and hugs Lizzy
L647[11:19:29] * ds84182 superglues the wall to the floor
L648[11:19:39] * dangranos soperglues vifino to superglued Lizzy
L649[11:19:39] * Lizzy reforms back to a solid
L650[11:19:40] <Negi> dangranos: I'm a vacuum. I can.
L651[11:19:58] <dangranos> you are superglued vacuum .-.
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L653[11:23:44] <DeanIsaKitty> New guy! Act serious guys!
L654[11:24:13] <vifino> λλλλλλλλλλλ
L655[11:24:21] <vifino> LAMDAAAAAS λλλλ
L656[11:24:33] * SkySom puts away the dildos and party favors
L657[11:24:36] * SkySom whistles
L658[11:24:44] * Lizzy is off home
L659[11:24:45] <SkySom> Totally serious
L660[11:24:59] <vifino> All I say to this is λ, SkySom.
L661[11:25:18] <SkySom> OH DO YA NOW
L662[11:25:25] <SkySom> ALL I GOT TO SAY IS
L663[11:25:29] <SkySom> SO THERE
L664[11:25:31] <SkySom> I SAID IT.
L665[11:25:40] <dangranos> ITS LAMBDA
L666[11:25:54] <SkySom> LAMBDA ALL THE WAY DOWN
L667[11:25:56] <dangranos> NOT LAMBADA OR LAMDA
L668[11:26:10] <SkySom> CAN YA FEEL MR. KRABS
L669[11:26:35] <DeanIsaKitty> ✬
L670[11:26:57] <SkySom> New guy has yet to speak. I believe we have scared him.
L671[11:27:46] * Temia moos 'o'
L672[11:27:49] <vifino> dangranos: pfft, spelling errors can happen.
L673[11:27:55] <vifino> Temia: λ!
L674[11:28:33] <Soni> hey kids
L675[11:28:59] <Temia> Oh yeah?
L676[11:29:05] <Temia> μ!
L677[11:29:18] <SkySom> OH YEAH
L678[11:29:20] <SkySom> !
L679[11:29:26] <Negi> Temia: MUU.
L680[11:29:36] <Temia> muuuuu.
L681[11:29:43] <Negi> SkySom : ¬ !7
L682[11:29:51] <SkySom> Don't you start with me.
L683[11:29:56] <SkySom> IMMA STAB YOU
L684[11:30:06] <DeanIsaKitty> SkySom: Have some ☮
L685[11:30:20] * SkySom stabs DeanIsaKitty
L686[11:30:26] <SkySom> YEAH.
L687[11:30:39] <SkySom> Man lunch sounds good.
L688[11:30:44] <SkySom> Hmmm... What should I get.
L689[11:33:27] <ds84182> %flip λμm
L690[11:33:27] <MichiBot> ds84182: (╯°□°)╯︵ɯμY
L691[11:33:34] <ds84182> lol
L692[11:33:48] <ds84182> the μ doesn't turn into a h
L693[11:37:08] <Temia> That's because it's improperly oriented
L694[11:39:17] <Caitlyn> μ also isn't in the map it uses for flipping :P
L695[11:39:54] * ds84182 throws a ∡ at vifino
L696[11:39:59] <Caitlyn> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/irc/hooks/Flip.java#L35-L36
L697[11:40:14] <vifino> ds84182: Lisp doesn't need it, I don't need it.
L698[11:40:16] <Caitlyn> %flip ɥ
L699[11:40:16] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: (╯°□°)╯︵h
L700[11:40:37] <ds84182> %flip why
L701[11:40:37] <MichiBot> ds84182: (╯°□°)╯︵ʎɥʍ
L702[11:40:43] <ds84182> %flip ʎɥʍ
L703[11:40:43] <MichiBot> ds84182: (╯°□°)╯︵why
L704[11:40:45] <ds84182> ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L705[11:42:30] <Caitlyn> https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=406210913162
L706[11:43:04] <ds84182> >facebook
L707[11:43:07] <ds84182> no thanku
L708[11:43:10] <ds84182> jklol
L709[11:44:04] <Caitlyn> k
L710[11:44:04] <Caitlyn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLO1djacsfg
L711[11:44:05] -Kibibyte- [Caitlyn] JAVA 4-EVER - Official Trailer | by rudisimmons | 3m24s | 240w6d ago | 349,715 views | Rated: 4.94/5.00
L712[11:44:23] <Negi> %flip Logic
L713[11:44:23] <MichiBot> Negi: (╯°□°)╯︵ɔıɓo˥
L714[11:46:41] <ds84182> I'm so done
L715[11:47:48] <vifino> I thought ds84182 is ds84182, not 'So done'?!
L716[11:48:02] <vifino> SCNR
L717[11:48:11] *** ds84182 is now known as So_Done
L718[11:48:17] <vifino> Well fuck.
L719[11:52:31] <Caitlyn> So... would anyone use a Wolfram command if I added it to MichiBot?
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L725[12:05:05] <dangranos> word of warning, SSSS fan community are languages nerds
L726[12:05:14] <dangranos> SSSS is a comic, just in case
L727[12:05:20] <vifino> Caitlyn: (((λ (y) (λ (x) (+ y x))) 1) 2)
L728[12:05:28] <vifino> I'm insaaaaaneeeeee~!
L729[12:05:50] <vifino> Worst thing is that it works.
L730[12:10:00] * Lizzy is back home
L731[12:10:23] * Lizzy is in a "can i not exist for a while" mood :/
L732[12:13:40] * vifino hugs Lizzy
L733[12:14:41] <vifino> Meanwhile, sitting in a channel for CHICKEN Scheme and asking why λ does not work as a lambda .-.
L734[12:15:39] ⇦ Quits: dangranos (~dangranos@37.23.199.153) (Remote host closed the connection)
L735[12:16:19] <gamax92> #lua λ
L736[12:16:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7f6e4c11fed0
L737[12:16:26] <gamax92> what
L738[12:16:32] <gamax92> #lua λ()
L739[12:16:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7f6e4c11fed0
L740[12:16:37] <vifino> I toyed around with it, mkaay
L741[12:16:38] <gamax92> vifino: what
L742[12:16:52] <vifino> #lua λ "wat" "u" "want"
L743[12:16:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > wat | u | want | function: 0x7f6e4c11fed0
L744[12:16:55] <gamax92> #lua λ()()
L745[12:16:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7f6e4c11fed0
L746[12:17:25] <vifino> #resetlua
L747[12:17:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Sandbox Reset!
L748[12:17:27] <vifino> flushed
L749[12:17:32] <gamax92> #lua λ
L750[12:17:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L751[12:17:43] *** Techokami|Off is now known as Techokami
L752[12:18:03] <gamax92> Hello Techokami
L753[12:18:08] <Techokami> ahoy
L754[12:18:10] <Techokami> sup
L755[12:18:15] <So_Done> sdown
L756[12:18:17] <gamax92> don't you ahoy me >:(
L757[12:18:17] <vifino> Lambda's.
L758[12:18:27] <vifino> λλλλλλ
L759[12:18:33] <So_Done> yyyyyy
L760[12:18:47] <vifino> ΛΛΛΛΛΛ
L761[12:18:54] <So_Done> VVVVVV
L762[12:19:01] * vifino cough
L763[12:19:07] * So_Done chokes
L764[12:19:25] <Vexatos> VΛVΛVΛV
L765[12:19:28] <Temia> #python print("It would be funny if this was implemented, wouldn't it?")
L766[12:19:31] <Temia> ...
L767[12:19:31] <Temia> nuts.
L768[12:19:34] <Lizzy> HAIL HYDRA!
L769[12:19:46] <Lizzy> Temia, hmmm
L770[12:19:52] <vifino> Temia: Me does not like python, but for you I'll implement something.
L771[12:19:54] <So_Done> %flip #python print("It would be funny if this was implemented, wouldn't it?")
L772[12:19:54] <MichiBot> So_Done: (╯°□°)╯︵(„¿ʇı ʇ,uplnoʍ 'pǝʇuǝɯǝldɯı sɐʍ sıɥʇ ɟı ʎuunɟ ǝq plnoʍ ʇI„)ʇuıɹd uoɥʇʎd#
L773[12:19:54] <vifino> Mkay?
L774[12:19:59] <Temia> No, it's okay
L775[12:20:05] * DeanIsaKitty jumps on Lizzy's head
L776[12:20:17] <vifino> I'll do it anyways ;_;
L777[12:20:21] <Temia> I just wanted an excuse to make a lambda function named λ.
L778[12:20:33] <Temia> Because I'm a derp.
L779[12:20:34] * Lizzy picks DeanIsaKitty off of her head and hugs him
L780[12:20:49] * DeanIsaKitty squeaks
L781[12:21:22] <vifino> Temia: is jython okay? Then I can use jruby with it.
L782[12:21:25] <gamax92> #lua good_variable_name=4
L783[12:21:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L784[12:21:26] <gamax92> #lua good_variable_name
L785[12:21:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4
L786[12:21:30] <Temia> Sure :V
L787[12:21:35] <vifino> Oke.
L788[12:22:02] <So_Done> %flip my_variable
L789[12:22:02] <MichiBot> So_Done: (╯°□°)╯︵ǝlqɐıɹɐʌ‾ʎɯ
L790[12:22:09] <So_Done> #lua ǝlqɐıɹɐʌ‾ʎɯ=5
L791[12:22:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L792[12:22:12] <So_Done> #lua ǝlqɐıɹɐʌ‾ʎɯ
L793[12:22:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 5
L794[12:22:13] <Lizzy> %flip Caitlyn: http://imgur.com/gallery/7oXkt5I
L795[12:22:14] <MichiBot> Lizzy: (╯°□°)╯︵IϛʇʞXoⱢ/ʎɹǝllɐɓ/ɯoɔ˙ɹnɓɯı//:dʇʇɥ :uʎlʇıɐƆ
L796[12:24:00] <gamax92> #lua "ǝlqɐıɹɐʌ‾ʎɯ"
L797[12:24:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > xC7x9DlqxC9x90xC4xB1xC9xB9xC9x90xCAx8CxE2x80xBExCAx8ExC9xAF
L798[12:24:05] <gamax92> ^ is the only reason it works.
L799[12:24:20] <Vexatos> #lua "(╯°□°)╯︵IϛʇʞXoⱢ/ʎɹǝllɐɓ/ɯoɔ˙ɹnɓɯı//:dʇʇɥ :uʎlʇıɐƆ"
L800[12:24:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Output: http://hastebin.com/raw/agavekalop
L801[12:24:39] <Vexatos> hax
L802[12:24:41] <Vexatos> Or hex*
L803[12:24:46] <Vexatos> Or both?
L804[12:24:47] <Vexatos> U:
L805[12:24:55] <Techokami> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0N7JqTZd7HY this is an amazing video
L806[12:24:56] -Kibibyte- [Techokami] Rayman Hypetrain | by apochedgie | 42s | 7h42m ago | 466 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
L807[12:24:57] * gamax92 licks Vexatos
L808[12:25:02] <gamax92> VEXATOAST
L809[12:25:14] <gamax92> im sorry
L810[12:25:26] * Lizzy sighs
L811[12:25:49] * Lizzy puts DeanIsaKitty down then goes to lay on the couch
L812[12:26:05] <gamax92> you killed him?
L813[12:26:06] <gamax92> D:
L814[12:26:16] <Lizzy> eh?
L815[12:26:24] <gamax92> you put a cat down
L816[12:26:25] <SkySom> :D
L817[12:26:31] <SkySom> Oh wait D:
L818[12:26:37] <Lizzy> i was hugging him
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L820[12:33:07] <Soni> Vexatos, https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/issues/111#issuecomment-75029652
L821[12:37:21] <Negi> gamax92 !
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L823[12:43:37] <dfo> hey guys, need some help, i am trying to make a robot move outward in a square spiral, increasing the "wall" size of the spiral by one after every 2 right turns so that it covers every block as it spirals outward
L824[12:43:51] <dfo> but unfortunately it's increasing the wall size by 1 every single time it turns right, like this
L825[12:43:53] <dfo> http://i.imgur.com/fdmU3ep.png
L826[12:44:03] <dfo> here is my program
L827[12:44:04] <dfo> http://pastebin.com/fCWuYPTE
L828[12:44:12] <dfo> could anyone take a look and see what i need to fix?
L829[12:44:29] <dfo> in the picture i started the robot on top of the angel block
L830[12:46:19] <SkySom> ... So should it turn right after each of those loops?
L831[12:46:27] <SkySom> Instead of just once?
L832[12:46:47] <dfo> it's turning right correctly
L833[12:47:02] <dfo> the wall size is increasing every right turn instead of every two right turns
L834[12:47:24] <SkySom> Which is why I'm saying add a second turn right?
L835[12:47:36] <SkySom> You're running through the forward stuff twice?
L836[12:47:37] <SkySom> No?
L837[12:48:21] <dfo> yes, im basically trying to reset it's progress after it turns right the first time, so that it moves the same length as the first, then increases the wall size by 1
L838[12:48:36] <SkySom> Correct.
L839[12:48:36] <dfo> i know the code is messy but it's my first try... sorry if it's hard to understand
L840[12:49:00] <SkySom> Thus it becomes Go forward, turn right, go forward method repeats. Go forward?
L841[12:49:19] <dfo> this is what i want to happen:
L842[12:49:38] <SkySom> So you want it to move forward twice before turning?
L843[12:49:52] <dfo> sec
L844[12:50:24] <dfo> go forward once, turn right. go forward once, turn right - go forward twice, turn right, go forward twice, turn right - go forward 3 times, turn right, go forward 3 times, turn right - etc
L845[12:50:41] <SkySom> No.
L846[12:50:44] <dfo> basically so it starts at a center point and covers ALL blocks as it moves outwards
L847[12:50:48] <SkySom> You're calling your loop twice.
L848[12:50:56] <SkySom> But only turn once.
L849[12:52:04] <dfo> so you're saying add another turn right at the end of the second "repeat"?
L850[12:52:09] <SkySom> Just... do me a favor. Add robot.turnRight() after line 23
L851[12:52:20] <dfo> ok, sec
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L853[12:52:59] <SkySom> Because right now it looks like go forward once, turn right, go forward once, go forward twice, turn right, go forward twice, go forward 3 times
L854[12:53:07] <SkySom> and so on and so forth.
L855[12:53:47] <dfo> SkySom: that's exactly what i want it to be doing
L856[12:54:10] <dfo> when i added that second turnright() it just moves ina square in the same 4 blocks, making a right turn teach time
L857[12:54:29] <SkySom> Read what I wrote vs what you wrote.
L858[12:54:50] <SkySom> Yours had more turn rights than mine
L859[12:55:17] <dfo> my bad, read what you wrote wrong
L860[12:55:32] <dfo> adding what you said makes it turn right too much, it just moves in a square
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L862[12:55:52] *** Brycey92|alt is now known as Brycey92
L863[12:56:48] <SkySom> That should work... You added after the second loop. Right?
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L865[12:57:33] <dfo> SkySom: i did it like this: http://pastebin.com/2SqDSa2z
L866[12:59:26] <SkySom> Hmmm.. That should work. afaik.
L867[12:59:30] <dfo> im thinking i need to put a elseif somewhere in there
L868[13:00:26] <dfo> bb in a few, need a break from this lol
L869[13:00:31] <dfo> driving me nuts
L870[13:00:34] <Soni> meh I needed to get this out of my system http://mcbaddesign.tumblr.com/post/111487148996/first-post-note-blocks
L871[13:00:36] <Soni> blame Vexatos
L872[13:01:05] <SkySom> dfo, you need to reset step at the beginning of the method.
L873[13:02:23] <Vexatos> Soni, just make your own custom note block if you want extendability
L874[13:02:34] <Soni> Vexatos, or ASM your mod
L875[13:03:12] <Vexatos> Or just make your own mod...
L876[13:03:25] <Lizzy> Soni, then go do that. stop fucking whining because Vexatos isn't bending to your every need
L877[13:03:28] <Soni> did you not read the part about compatiblity?
L878[13:03:45] <Vexatos> Soni logic: "I could make a mod adding a new, better note block. But why? Let's ASM into Vanilla's and Computronics block for no reason!"
L879[13:04:03] <Soni> the reason is because Mojang
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L881[13:04:15] <Vexatos> Soni, people who want compatibility can add compat with your new note block
L882[13:04:28] <Soni> what about your noteblock?
L883[13:04:55] <Vexatos> What about them? You can add OC compat to your note block as well
L884[13:06:06] <Soni> ok so
L885[13:06:11] <Soni> I have to add a new noteblock
L886[13:06:15] <Soni> that extends your iron note blocks
L887[13:06:28] <Soni> and make a crafting recipe that turns your iron note blocks into my iron note blocks
L888[13:06:40] <Soni> just so others can add bloody instruments to the damn thing?!
L889[13:06:45] <Temia> Screw noteblocks, stream tapes erryday
L890[13:06:49] <Lizzy> ^
L891[13:07:31] <Vexatos> Soni, add your own note block
L892[13:07:34] <Vexatos> add OC compat to it
L893[13:07:40] <Vexatos> Done
L894[13:07:53] <Soni> WHY?!
L895[13:07:56] <Vexatos> Also, define "others" != you
L896[13:08:00] <Vexatos> Noone would do it
L897[13:08:12] <Soni> why not?
L898[13:08:17] <Soni> wait let me guess
L899[13:08:20] * Lizzy decides that this conversation is over
L900[13:08:27] <Soni> meh ok
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L902[13:11:08] <Soni> am I the only one who hates mojang? :/
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L904[13:12:07] <SkySom> That seems a bit of an over dramatization.
L905[13:12:18] <SkySom> Hate should be reserved for much more horrid things.
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L907[13:12:25] <Lizzy> like SkySom
L908[13:12:29] <Soni> ok
L909[13:12:42] <SkySom> Exactly.
L910[13:12:43] <Soni> am I the only one who gets mad at MC code?
L911[13:12:45] <SkySom> Like SkySom
L912[13:12:47] <vifino> Lizzy: Did you mean Soni? Or really SkySom? Because SkySom seems nice.
L913[13:12:48] <SkySom> Wait
L914[13:12:53] <SkySom> Dammit Lizzy
L915[13:12:54] <Soni> that should be more accurate
L916[13:12:56] <Lizzy> :P
L917[13:13:04] <SkySom> Do I get mad at MC code.
L918[13:13:07] <SkySom> yeah.
L919[13:13:25] <SkySom> But anger and hate are very different levels of emotion.
L920[13:13:41] * SkySom stabs vifino
L921[13:13:45] <SkySom> How's that for nice
L922[13:13:47] <vifino> :<
L923[13:13:48] <Lizzy> Soni, it's a big ball O' shit, we all know that. you seem to be the only one whining about something everyone generally deals with in a quite manner
L924[13:13:59] * SkySom laugh manically
L925[13:14:03] * vifino hugs SkySom
L926[13:14:12] <Sangar> evening o/
L927[13:14:14] <Soni> I did get banned from the forge channel for wanting to ASM that
L928[13:14:23] <Soni> so meh :/
L929[13:14:34] <Lizzy> \o Sangar
L930[13:14:50] <Soni> if I can't get mojang to fix their shit I can at least give advice for ppl who want to clone mojang shit
L931[13:15:26] <Lizzy> If i could get my fuck giving system to work again i'd give one
L932[13:15:47] <Lizzy> but sadly it only works for a few things
L933[13:15:49] <Caitlyn> Giving fucks? whats that?
L934[13:15:56] <Lizzy> Caitlyn, cookies
L935[13:16:03] * Lizzy hands Caitlyn a cookie
L936[13:16:17] <Caitlyn> woooo
L937[13:16:20] * Caitlyn noms cookie
L938[13:16:39] <vifino> Soni: Dude, if it's broken for you but noone else, fix it yourself. If you say other's should do it, even though for them it isn't broken, you are just stupid.
L939[13:16:44] <SkySom> BEHOLD! The field in which I grow my fucks. something something barren.
L940[13:17:05] <Sangar> what have i stumbled into? >_>
L941[13:17:13] <Lizzy> Caitlyn, i cant remember, did you give me some configs to attach my Pi to PCL? it hink we talked about it but i went off when you were messing with something else
L942[13:17:17] <Soni> vifino, why do you think I asked for help with ASM?
L943[13:17:19] <SkySom> Chaos
L944[13:17:26] <SkySom> You know
L945[13:17:28] <Lizzy> right, lets see what i can break by applying all these system updates at the same time
L946[13:17:28] <SkySom> The usual
L947[13:17:34] <Sangar> ok, cool
L948[13:17:37] <DeanIsaKitty> SNAGAR!!!! \o/
L949[13:17:39] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Sangar
L950[13:17:52] <Caitlyn> Lizzy, I have not yet..
L951[13:17:57] <Lizzy> SkySom, behold the field in which i grow my fucks and notice that it is barren
L952[13:17:58] * Sangar squeeks
L953[13:18:19] <vifino> Soni: You told Vexatos to "fix" his noteblock, while it isn't broken.
L954[13:18:35] <SkySom> It's something like lay thine eyes upon it and thou shall see that it is barren.
L955[13:18:35] <Soni> well, it doesn't let me add my own instruments to it
L956[13:18:38] <Sangar> i should get drone rendering in inventories in 1.8 to work so i can finally release a beta :P
L957[13:18:49] <Soni> even tho it has non-vanilla instruments already
L958[13:18:55] <So_Done> You know fucking wat. we need to make our own minecraft clone... oh wait, the last person who said something like that got banned from #minecraftforge
L959[13:19:02] *** So_Done is now known as dsAway
L960[13:19:07] <SkySom> Well duh.
L961[13:19:12] <SkySom> And there are some clones.
L962[13:19:16] <Soni> copygirl is making one
L963[13:19:21] <Lizzy> Soni, vifino I SAID END OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT
L964[13:19:30] <dsAway> Yes, but they suck ass
L965[13:19:35] <SkySom> Indeed.
L966[13:19:43] <Soni> asie is making one
L967[13:19:58] <SkySom> Mostly would require everyone to rewrite everything to make mods work with it instead of MC.
L968[13:19:58] <vifino> Lizzy: ._.
L969[13:20:04] <Soni> Lizzy, only if Sangar says so
L970[13:20:12] <Sangar> i say what?
L971[13:20:16] *** dsAway is now known as ds84182
L972[13:20:18] <SkySom> I though asie was just making an API.
L973[13:20:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: You say "Cookies!!"
L974[13:20:19] <Soni> Sangar, you say what Lizzy just said
L975[13:20:23] <Sangar> "so"
L976[13:20:25] <Sangar> there
L977[13:20:26] <Sangar> i said so
L978[13:20:32] * SkySom dies
L979[13:20:34] <Sangar> what now?
L980[13:20:38] <Soni> Sangar, you say what Lizzy just said
L981[13:20:40] <DeanIsaKitty> SAY "COOKKIES!!!"
L982[13:20:51] <vifino> COOKIES!!!
L983[13:20:57] <vifino> er
L984[13:21:00] <Sangar> "COOKKIES!!!"
L985[13:21:01] <Soni> SkySom, you make an API someone makes an implementation problem solved
L986[13:21:01] <vifino> COOKKIES!!!
L987[13:21:02] <SkySom> "I SAID END OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT" is what they are speaking of.
L988[13:21:03] <DeanIsaKitty> \o/
L989[13:21:05] <vifino> Sorry :<
L990[13:21:06] <ds84182> Forge is ass backwards. There i said it
L991[13:21:10] <Sangar> ah
L992[13:21:16] <Skye> Sangar, best bot ever.
L993[13:21:22] <Sangar> well, i'm assuming it's a pointless discussion if it came to that, so yeah.
L994[13:21:27] <DeanIsaKitty> ds84182: Forge is egroF backwards.
L995[13:21:32] <vifino> ^
L996[13:21:39] <ds84182> Oh no Lex is going to break down my door and murder me
L997[13:21:40] <Negi> Carambar \o/
L998[13:21:48] <SkySom> Man Cookies do sound good.
L999[13:21:56] * SkySom gets out his oven mitts
L1000[13:22:02] <Soni> inb4 someone makes a language where "egrof" means "ass"
L1001[13:22:02] <vifino> ds84182: Don't worry, i'm there before him >:D
L1002[13:22:13] <ds84182> .
L1003[13:22:15] <ds84182> ب_ب
L1004[13:22:18] <vifino> #lua egrof == ass
L1005[13:22:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > true
L1006[13:22:26] <vifino> Soni: Did it.
L1007[13:22:34] <Soni> lol
L1008[13:23:12] <Negi> #lua print(egrof.." // "..ass)
L1009[13:23:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > lua:1: attempt to concatenate global 'ass' (a nil value)
L1010[13:23:18] <Negi> vifino: :c
L1011[13:23:21] <ds84182> I could totally convert LuaVM into a profiler
L1012[13:23:47] <Negi> ds84182: Isn't that a thing you can do by just tweaking around with vm.run() ?
L1013[13:23:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Tacocat is Tacocat backwards!
L1014[13:24:01] * Lizzy goes to find her laptop
L1015[13:24:13] * Negi eats a taco-not-cat.
L1016[13:24:42] <ds84182> #lua setmetatable(_G,{__index=function(_,i) return i end})
L1017[13:24:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > table: 0x7f6e58052c70
L1018[13:24:48] <vifino> Negi: meep.
L1019[13:24:50] <ds84182> #lua five
L1020[13:24:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > five
L1021[13:24:55] <ds84182> There
L1022[13:25:01] <vifino> #lua what the
L1023[13:25:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > lua:1: '=' expected near 'the'
L1024[13:25:03] <vifino> oh
L1025[13:25:14] <vifino> ds84182: fixit
L1026[13:25:19] <ds84182> Negi, yes, but what about table allocation stuff
L1027[13:25:21] <vifino> make plaintextlang
L1028[13:25:35] <ds84182> vifino, can i eat lunch first
L1029[13:25:41] <vifino> ds84182: Yes.
L1030[13:25:44] <Negi> Table allocation stuff ?
L1031[13:26:06] <ds84182> Negi, like tracking tables and stuff
L1032[13:26:30] <vifino> #lua setmetatable(_G,{__index=function(...) return ... end})
L1033[13:26:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > table: 0x7f6e58052c70
L1034[13:26:34] <vifino> riight
L1035[13:26:42] <vifino> #lua wat
L1036[13:26:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > table: 0x7f6e58052c70
L1037[13:26:49] <vifino> #lua unpack(wat)
L1038[13:26:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L1039[13:26:55] <vifino> mkaaay
L1040[13:27:23] <vifino> #lua setmetatable(_G,{__index=function(..., i) retun i end})
L1041[13:27:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > lua:1: ')' expected near ','
L1042[13:27:28] <vifino> idfk
L1043[13:27:51] <Negi> :I ds84182, expose the env of the VM to hooks and such ?
L1044[13:27:52] <SkySom> Or do you?
L1045[13:28:29] <ds84182> vifino, look up metatables
L1046[13:28:42] <vifino> ds84182: no get rekt
L1047[13:29:01] <Lizzy> lets play "break all the shit" http://i.imgur.com/mEkBsHs.png
L1048[13:29:04] <dfo> holy shit... IT'S WORKING!!!
L1049[13:29:05] <dfo> http://i.imgur.com/ALNprNw.png
L1050[13:29:42] <DeanIsaKitty> dfo, No! We are playing lets break all the shit and not lets get stuff working! :<
L1051[13:30:00] <dfo> i have been trying for 2 days to figure this shit out hahahah
L1052[13:30:06] <Negi> Lizzy: That's also called meta-catlateral damage.
L1053[13:30:41] <dfo> there seems to be a pretty large delay after robot.swing()
L1054[13:30:43] <dfo> any way to speed that up?
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L1056[13:31:08] <dfo> robot.use() works fine, it's instant, but after the swing there is about a 5 second delay after it breaks the mining well
L1057[13:31:17] <SkySom> What'd you change dfo ?
L1058[13:32:12] <dfo> let me pastebin the new code, i sat down and rewrote it from scratch looking at a piece of paper drawing otu what i wanted to happen lol
L1059[13:32:30] <DeanIsaKitty> dfo: Titanpad is a thing, it might help here. ;)
L1060[13:33:11] <dfo> DeanIsaKitty: ill check that out
L1061[13:33:13] <dfo> http://pastebin.com/FafNd80G
L1062[13:33:16] <Lizzy> Caitlyn, what was Inspi's channel on ChatSpile?
L1063[13:33:28] <Lizzy> s/il/ik
L1064[13:33:28] <Kibibyte> <Lizzy> Caitlyn, what was Inspi's channel on ChatSpike?
L1065[13:33:29] <Caitlyn> #inspircd
L1066[13:33:31] <Lizzy> ok
L1067[13:33:55] <SkySom> Ah yep. There it was.
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L1069[13:34:00] <SkySom> You hadn't reset step.
L1070[13:34:11] <SkySom> That looks to be the major change between the earlier one and this one.
L1071[13:35:03] <dfo> hey how do i make it so i can cancel the running program with ctrl+c or something similar? right now the only way i can find to stop it is to kill power tot he robot
L1072[13:35:20] <Lizzy> ctrl + alt + c
L1073[13:35:39] <dfo> oh nice
L1074[13:35:39] <dfo> thx
L1075[13:36:35] <dfo> now the next step for me is to learn how to use the filesystem so i can save the wall size and step position so that it can survive restarts... might be tricky though i don't know how to tell it if it's in its first or second turn :\
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L1077[13:40:48] <dfo> i cant find anything on the wiki, is there any documentation yet about how to read/write to a file and how to reference data from inside a file within a program?
L1078[13:42:20] <dfo> and here's a stupid question, how do i pick up and move a robot in creative without breaking it?
L1079[13:42:29] <SkySom> Check Lua documentation?
L1080[13:42:39] <SkySom> I'm not sure what to what OC uses for file access.
L1081[13:43:00] <SkySom> ... Have you tried a wrench?
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L1083[13:45:55] <dfo> SkySom: yeah crescent hammer does nothing
L1084[13:46:59] <Lizzy> ... wifi pls
L1085[13:47:40] <SkySom> Liz no
L1086[13:55:39] <nxsupert> o/
L1087[13:59:47] <vifino> s/w/v/
L1088[13:59:48] <Kibibyte> <Lizzy> ... vifi pls
L1089[13:59:51] <vifino> ;3
L1090[14:02:00] <SkySom> :/
L1091[14:02:44] <ds84182> I never trust Lenovo.
L1092[14:03:30] <ds84182> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-honestly-thought-youd-enjoy-that-superfish-https-spyware/
L1093[14:04:21] <ds84182> bunch of fucking bullshit: http://news.lenovo.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1929
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L1095[14:08:37] * SkySom was planning on getting a Lenovo laptop soon
L1096[14:08:47] <gamax92> who is SkySom
L1097[14:08:47] <Magik6k> Sangar, I did some stuff for #924
L1098[14:08:54] <SkySom> I is?
L1099[14:09:05] <gamax92> SkySom: who are you
L1100[14:09:18] <Dashkal> I'm eyeing the new asus zenbook, but it doesn't look like it's for sale yet
L1101[14:09:28] <gamax92> I'm building a laptop
L1102[14:09:30] * SkySom is unsure what you wish to know.
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L1104[14:09:55] <Sangar> Magik6k, great, one sec
L1105[14:10:43] <gamax92> ~w debug.sethook
L1106[14:10:44] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-debug.sethook
L1107[14:11:04] <gamax92> oh, it has to be a thread?
L1108[14:29:12] <Dashkal> Blergh. I have no idea if this'll run linux, only because I can't figure out what chipset it uses (integrated net)
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L1113[15:20:59] <gamax92> ~w package.preload
L1114[15:21:00] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-package.preload
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L1120[15:50:36] <Magik6k> Sangar u still here?
L1121[15:50:41] <Sangar> yes
L1122[15:51:21] <Magik6k> my copypasta derped hard
L1123[15:51:27] <Magik6k> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/boot/94_shell.lua#L2
L1124[15:51:47] <Magik6k> require "event"
L1125[15:51:50] <Magik6k> ..
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L1127[15:52:28] <Sangar> yeah, i noticed when testing 1.8 :P added it below, as it's only used once
L1128[15:52:29] <Magik6k> ah
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L1130[15:53:11] <Kodos> I wonder if I could find some poor sod to trade me a copy of medieval engineers for one of my Torchlight 2s
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L1136[16:12:48] <sirius_black> blech, connecting 10 peripherals :P
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L1158[17:12:16] <Caitlyn> Hmmm this could be a problem http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-02-19_17-11-44.png
L1159[17:12:23] <Caitlyn> it just kept going... on and on and on
L1160[17:15:22] <Caitlyn> Oh man this is sooo spammy
L1161[17:15:46] <Caitlyn> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-02-19_17-15-40.png
L1162[17:16:41] <SkySom> Damn all the spam.
L1163[17:17:23] <Caitlyn> Thank WolframAlpha.. lol
L1164[17:18:07] <TabletCube> Wolfram's awesome.
L1165[17:19:18] <Caitlyn> I may make it reply in PM.. lol
L1166[17:20:36] <Caitlyn> TabletCube, you've used Janus before?
L1167[17:20:52] <gamax92> it didn't even log it ... lol
L1168[17:20:53] <TabletCube> No, but I'm aware it's a thing
L1169[17:21:17] <Caitlyn> Oh.. :/
L1170[17:21:35] <TabletCube> i've been on a network using it if it counts
L1171[17:21:35] <Caitlyn> Damn I was hoping someone elsem ight have had it working to help me figure out wtf is wrong
L1172[17:23:38] <Caitlyn> gamax92 didn't log what?
L1173[17:23:55] <gamax92> Caitlyn: you told wolfram to log10 the number
L1174[17:23:58] <gamax92> but it didn't
L1175[17:24:40] <Caitlyn> Caitlyn: log(10, 2^(512^2))
L1176[17:24:47] <Caitlyn> Caitlyn: 78913.207183338686438110368818657500009120368286002981...
L1177[17:24:51] <Caitlyn> works.. so IDK :p
L1178[17:25:11] <ds84182> #lua math.log(2^10)
L1179[17:25:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 6.9314718055995
L1180[17:25:18] <ds84182> no wait
L1181[17:25:22] <ds84182> #lua math.log(10^2)
L1182[17:25:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4.6051701859881
L1183[17:25:27] <ds84182> fml
L1184[17:25:29] <gamax92> log10
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L1186[17:25:33] * ds84182 attempts to remember stuff
L1187[17:25:43] <gamax92> #lua math.log10(20^2)
L1188[17:25:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2.602059991328
L1189[17:25:44] <ds84182> #lua math.log10
L1190[17:25:44] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7f6e5802fc10
L1191[17:25:47] <ds84182> #lua math.log
L1192[17:25:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7f6e5802fc70
L1193[17:25:51] <ds84182> huh
L1194[17:26:01] <ds84182> #lua math.log10(2^10)
L1195[17:26:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3.0102999566398
L1196[17:26:08] <gamax92> log is ln and log10 is log or logbase(10,
L1197[17:26:18] <ds84182> #lua 2^3.0102999566398
L1198[17:26:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 8.0573194566303
L1199[17:26:23] <ds84182> magicall
L1200[17:26:31] <ds84182> #lua 3.0102999566398^2
L1201[17:26:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 9.0619058289456
L1202[17:28:31] <Caitlyn> Damn... I'd really like to output to the channel but some of these answers can be HUGE
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L1205[17:42:53] <Soni> Twitter: What's your gender? ( ) Male ( ) Female [Back] [Continue] "hmm... what if I don't select anything?" *hits Continue* "Oh, it goes thru :D"
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L1207[17:50:40] <Soni> (random Twitter survey)
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L1210[17:57:51] <sirius_black> XD
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L1213[18:36:03] <Kodos> http://youtu.be/K57dVZ4oHtQ
L1214[18:36:03] -Kibibyte- [Kodos] The C90s - Shine A Light (Flight Facilities Remix) | by flightfacilities | 5m51s | 225w5d ago | 1,95,173 views | Rated: 4.96/5.00
L1215[18:36:56] * ds84182 throws a ? at vifino
L1216[18:37:06] * ds84182 throws a ??????????????? at vifino
L1217[18:37:12] <vifino> wtf
L1218[18:37:38] <ds84182> ?
L1219[18:38:28] <ds84182> vifino: hey, lets play dominoes
L1220[18:38:40] <vifino> .-.
L1221[18:38:47] <vifino> i want to play doom
L1222[18:38:55] <ds84182> ??????????
L1223[18:38:58] <ds84182> now knock them over
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L1234[19:17:05] <dfo> anyone here know how to use the equip() function with robots?
L1235[19:17:46] <DangerMan_500> I cannot see a way to make a Creatix
L1236[19:18:10] <DangerMan_500> However, I cant get drones to work
L1237[19:18:32] <gamax92> i don't believe that can be made and is a creative only item
L1238[19:19:01] <DangerMan_500> No, I am in creative I just cant get a openos floppydisk in
L1239[19:19:30] <DangerMan_500> neither turn it on
L1240[19:20:01] <DangerMan_500> brb
L1241[19:21:09] <DangerMan_500> back I just snapped MC and web to the sides
L1242[19:23:28] <DangerMan_500> This also happenned when I was makin a tablet
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L1246[19:25:35] <DangerMan_500> I could not find a totorial how to build drones either
L1247[19:25:40] <DangerMan_500> ill look it up
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L1252[19:39:00] <dfo> oh well that'
L1253[19:39:14] <dfo> s just fricking wonderful, apparently i reached my daily limit of pastebin pastes
L1254[19:40:59] <sirius_black> blech... can't iterate over this table properly because it has a mixture of strings and booleans apparently...
L1255[19:41:17] <sirius_black> so why doesn't concatenation work on booleans :S
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L1257[19:43:26] <gamax92> dfo: <3 hastebin
L1258[19:43:41] <Caitlyn> paste.pc-logix.com <3
L1259[19:43:42] <Caitlyn> :P
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L1261[19:47:50] <gamax92> lol Caitlyn
L1262[19:47:57] <gamax92> your old name is listed in the pastes
L1263[19:48:15] <Caitlyn> Not really surprising.
L1264[19:49:14] <gamax92> why do you hate me :(
L1265[19:49:25] <Caitlyn> o_O
L1266[19:50:13] <Caitlyn> I wasn't aware I hated you
L1267[19:52:03] <Izaya> Morning o/
L1268[19:52:23] <Izaya> Ohwait
L1269[19:52:27] <Izaya> It's afternoon
L1270[19:52:31] <Izaya> And I should be at school.
L1271[19:52:35] <Izaya> \o/
L1272[19:52:35] <vifino> It's night.
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L1274[19:53:39] <sirius_black> it really does surprise me how much "stuff" OC computers can interact with
L1275[19:53:39] <Izaya> .octime
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L1277[19:54:52] <dangranos> why it suprises you?
L1278[19:55:41] <sirius_black> used to CC?
L1279[19:55:43] <Izaya> http://redd.it/2vokx2
L1280[19:56:38] <sirius_black> i seem to remember having trouble even reading the contents of a chest with a turtle XD
L1281[19:56:57] <SkySom> Used to need all the OpenPerphirals mods to read basic stuff.
L1282[19:58:36] <sirius_black> but yeah, connect an adapter to an ME controller and you can use anything from power storage to information about any item in the network to a decent part of the structure of the ME network
L1283[19:59:24] <sirius_black> CC could read, i believe the power level, and MAYBE the number of items/total storage capacity
L1284[20:00:27] <sirius_black> and of course (and this is actually an essential part of the map i'm currently making) the debug card
L1285[20:03:24] <dfo> so now that i've reached my pastebin limit any ideas on how to easily get my program off my test world computer into another world?
L1286[20:04:41] <sirius_black> save file has plaintext mirrors of your harddrives?
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L1288[20:05:08] <dangranos> um
L1289[20:05:24] <dangranos> its in opencomputers or something like that
L1290[20:05:31] <dangranos> just find id of hdd
L1291[20:05:46] <sirius_black> actually, i think it's the id of the computer
L1292[20:06:33] <dangranos> no
L1293[20:06:41] <dangranos> its uid of hdd
L1294[20:06:45] <dangranos> hover mouse over HDD
L1295[20:07:34] <dfo> dangranos: oh neat, thanks
L1296[20:07:36] <dfo> good call
L1297[20:10:06] <SkySom> I don't think you could read power level in vanilla CC iirc
L1298[20:10:39] * Izaya is organising my start menu
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L1300[20:11:23] <Izaya> Why does *every program* insist on having it's own folder in the start menu even if only they only have *one* entry!>
L1301[20:11:33] <dangranos> heh
L1302[20:11:35] * SkySom doesn't know.
L1303[20:11:35] <Izaya> s/\>/\?/
L1304[20:11:35] <Kibibyte> <Izaya> Why does *every program* insist on having it's own folder in the start menu even if only they only have *one* entry!?
L1305[20:11:59] <dangranos> sks, why you arent no #ssss ? ._.
L1306[20:12:03] <dangranos> *on
L1307[20:12:11] <Izaya> 'Cause I'm not on that network
L1308[20:12:14] <Caitlyn> Well... most of my programs install to the same Start Menu folder...
L1309[20:12:23] <Caitlyn> so if you install 2 programs they both go into PC-Logix.
L1310[20:12:34] <Caitlyn> other people no clue :P
L1311[20:12:47] <Izaya> Caitlyn: Can you choose the start menu foldeR?
L1312[20:13:19] <Caitlyn> most installer programs let you... yes?
L1313[20:13:32] <Caitlyn> nsis does, as does the "ClickTeam installer" thingy
L1314[20:13:33] <Izaya> Most programs, you can't.
L1315[20:14:31] <Caitlyn> but like my DynDNS updater installed to PC-Logix, as do some of my other utilities
L1316[20:14:43] <Caitlyn> s/installed/installs/
L1317[20:14:43] <Kibibyte> <Caitlyn> but like my DynDNS updater installs to PC-Logix, as do some of my other utilities
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L1320[20:16:29] <Izaya> Caitlyn: It just feels like most programs are trying to remove options, though.
L1321[20:17:13] <Caitlyn> well.. you gotta conform to the common idiot :P
L1322[20:17:57] <Caitlyn> "ERMERGERD WAT R MEAN STERT MERNU FOLDRE"
L1323[20:18:02] <SkySom> Standard install (Suggested) Advanced install (Please dont click if you're stupid)
L1324[20:18:27] <Caitlyn> Yes, but that requires EFFORT from the person making the installer.
L1325[20:18:27] <Caitlyn> lol
L1326[20:18:30] <Izaya> SkySom: Either there is no Advanced Install or the Advanced Install is greyed out in most programs
L1327[20:18:51] * SkySom would be a horrid installer developer
L1328[20:19:06] <SkySom> (Good job you ****wit you managed to install this)
L1329[20:19:31] * Izaya would be a good installer developer, just never on Windows
L1330[20:23:22] <gamax92> Izaya: λ
L1331[20:23:32] <Izaya> HL3 confirmed
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L1347[21:34:32] <lperkins2> I just had a robot vanish into thin air, dropped its upgrades, nothing in the log about it.
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L1349[21:46:05] <lperkins2> Hm, I think it ran afoul of galacticraft's oxygen sealer and bad timing...
L1350[21:49:38] <four_chan> gamax92, should i try to upgrade mitchs1 from 32 to 64 bit?
L1351[21:49:46] <four_chan> it's cpu supports 32 but i didn't think to install it 64bit
L1352[21:49:47] <four_chan> so
L1353[21:49:49] <gamax92> i don't even know who you are.
L1354[21:50:08] * four_chan is wolfmitchell
L1355[21:50:11] <gamax92> k
L1356[21:50:23] <four_chan> gamax92, /ns info four_chan
L1357[21:50:25] <four_chan> and /whois four_chan
L1358[21:50:33] <gamax92> Hey lperkins2! o/
L1359[21:51:43] <four_chan> gamax92, should I?
L1360[21:51:54] <gamax92> i don't know
L1361[21:51:59] <four_chan> lol
L1362[21:52:00] <gamax92> sure
L1363[21:52:18] <gamax92> How elmo how?
L1364[21:52:26] <gamax92> This stop sign is an octagon
L1365[21:52:31] <gamax92> eight fantastic sides
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L1367[21:58:44] <lperkins2> hello.
L1368[21:59:15] <gamax92> lperkins2: i have something to show you
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L1370[21:59:36] <gamax92> ~calc 2^512^2
L1371[21:59:36] <izak92> 1611325717485760473619572118452005010644023874549669517476371250496071834282353275703306475315385411110721798095697231109437131380755198764527042761567968838933044413349992335761229510547289856972818021245410333508994362904997359190778069206205729655290328055240321669423907520389132735546007127101920230745954249975513130364577365491184375565016952080198536129414960750095683779454680145824951008720601514595084959095697130708311086572996862066948102324855...(78914)
L1372[21:59:44] <gamax92> i made it extremely fast
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L1374[22:00:27] <gamax92> the number at the end shows the original length of the cropped message
L1375[22:03:50] <four_chan> ~calc 9999999999999999999999999^9999999999999999999999^99999999999999999
L1376[22:03:52] <four_chan> kek
L1377[22:04:00] <four_chan> oh
L1378[22:10:40] <Izaya> Who is this four chan?
L1379[22:14:16] <gamax92> four_chan: it would actually go through and calculate that
L1380[22:14:30] <gamax92> if it wasnt time limited
L1381[22:14:31] <four_chan> Izaya, i am this four_chan
L1382[22:20:33] <Izaya> Well, reboot time, gotta pull a GPU
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L1384[22:28:35] <lperkins2> nice, less than a second
L1385[22:28:43] <lperkins2> ~calc 2^512
L1386[22:28:51] <lperkins2> heh, only listens to you, nice
L1387[22:28:58] <gamax92> >izak92 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
L1388[22:29:04] <lperkins2> oh, so it has,
L1389[22:29:08] <gamax92> :P
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L1392[22:30:23] <gamax92> ~calc 9^9^6
L1393[22:30:31] <izak92> 392156072358397448694332125004537337608017940519105781971605009450157711921549970925612182998394226955902667249910160338924491889228214667056455673146089575674863915867550229003454585151813319625784300858233073095994327743603146919240515365173829789814278501186116063445187778746089132462565913681865288507000111809791801514366475947425842239374521410749267692222793737326738479658535509042650761887386827699861567710419756110741699757576452939480434925549...(507124)
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L1395[22:31:04] <gamax92> lperkins2: 507124 digits
L1396[22:31:05] <lperkins2> I was gonna drop a 512^4098
L1397[22:31:11] <lperkins2> at it and see wwhat happened
L1398[22:31:44] <lperkins2> nice
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L1400[22:33:09] <lperkins2> ~calc 1+1
L1401[22:33:09] <izak92> 2
L1402[22:33:39] <lperkins2> ~calc 2^512^3*256^256^3*256*256*512*256
L1403[22:33:44] <LordFokas> now do an equation
L1404[22:33:50] <izak92> OOPS: libcalc:354: Too long without returning
L1405[22:34:06] <lperkins2> good job including that failsafe :)
L1406[22:34:40] <lperkins2> and if you're not gonna print the whole thing, you should have it return it in scientific notation,
L1407[22:34:49] <LordFokas> ^
L1408[22:35:04] <lperkins2> 3.921E507124 or whatever it is
L1409[22:35:07] <gamax92> the not printing the whole thing is part of the bot's irc output method.
L1410[22:35:32] <gamax92> not part of libcalc trimming it something
L1411[22:36:03] <lperkins2> fair enough
L1412[22:36:04] <LordFokas> put it on scientific notation and give like 12 decimal cases
L1413[22:36:55] <lperkins2> Oh, and the length it would get if it didn't abandon the effort after 12 seconds would be whatever it takes to represent 268435490 bits...
L1414[22:37:13] <gamax92> oh cool, i just figured out how to do modulo
L1415[22:37:16] <Gopher> ~calc 1.1^1024
L1416[22:37:17] <izak92> (2432817896953482871137299809352403862454993929109389759480304462792985184763017146820401804815831307154555858287894144357599778902392489639644387539535934977054248186068842301893111286894120790456369098805752665523331422303746964290893455209018474745087504477513919477899585093928216493722436500379854924482751581479019248253250382020978517699712050558187165202028334569949887029771554446378818725165199392274851933863470914087207836125496557582759179886301...(2095)
L1417[22:37:42] <Gopher> ~calc 0.1^1024
L1418[22:37:43] <gamax92> lol, it tried to convert it to a fraction
L1419[22:37:43] <izak92> (1/10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...(1029)
L1420[22:37:46] <gamax92> hence rendreing it useless
L1421[22:38:06] <lperkins2> it handls floats?
L1422[22:38:11] <gamax92> sorta
L1423[22:38:25] <gamax92> so uhh gotta test something
L1424[22:39:05] <gamax92> (a/b)%(c/d) == ((a*d)%(c*b))/(d*b) ?
L1425[22:39:13] <Gopher> the last one seems to be accurate, should've been 1/1<1024 0s>, which would be 1029 characters counting the () around fractions
L1426[22:39:56] <lperkins2> um, by / do you mean the floor divides function?
L1427[22:40:11] <lperkins2> since mod outside the realm of integers is undefined...
L1428[22:40:47] <Gopher> no it's not, most languages just don't implement it
L1429[22:42:09] <gamax92> #lua (17/3)%(7/2)
L1430[22:42:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2.1666666666667
L1431[22:42:11] <lperkins2> True, never actually went to look, but you are correct, it's just subject to some limits. The use of fractions in modular arithmetic is valid only when the denominator is invertible, i.e. coprime to the modulus
L1432[22:42:43] <Gopher> yah, it's mainly /useful/ for integers, but no reason logically you can't modulo floats, heh
L1433[22:43:10] <lperkins2> of course, lots of implementations also don't care about having the proper arithmetic mod function either,
L1434[22:43:22] <gamax92> #lua ((17*2)%(7*3))/(2*3)
L1435[22:43:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2.1666666666667
L1436[22:43:23] <gamax92> hmm
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L1438[22:43:49] <gamax92> #lua (74/62)%(24/64) == ((74*64)%(24*62))/(62*64)
L1439[22:43:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > false
L1440[22:43:52] <gamax92> aww
L1441[22:44:07] <gamax92> #lua (74/62)%(24/64)
L1442[22:44:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.068548387096774
L1443[22:44:10] <gamax92> #lua ((74*64)%(24*62))/(62*64)
L1444[22:44:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.068548387096774
L1445[22:44:14] <gamax92> umm what
L1446[22:44:18] <gamax92> fuck you lua
L1447[22:44:18] <Temia> Floats
L1448[22:44:26] * Temia shruuug
L1449[22:45:52] <lperkins2> modulo typically comes from the world of discrete math, but most implementations basically just do a%b -> subtract b from a until some number less than b is reached then return it, which doesn't fit with the view of modulo from discrete math, but is easy to implement and useful even with floats.
L1450[22:46:41] <Temia> #lua -1%2
L1451[22:46:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1
L1452[22:46:53] <gamax92> #lua a=(74/62)%(24/64) return string.format(".16f",a)
L1453[22:46:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > .16f
L1454[22:46:58] <gamax92> #lua a=(74/62)%(24/64) return string.format("%.16f",a)
L1455[22:46:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.0685483870967742
L1456[22:47:08] <gamax92> #lua a=((74*64)%(24*62))/(62*64) return string.format("%.16f",a)
L1457[22:47:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.0685483870967742
L1458[22:47:58] <Temia> I wonder if lua gives you a means to print the memory contents of the float in hex.
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L1460[22:52:34] <lperkins2> (a/b)%(c/d)==((a*d)%(c*b))//(d*b) iff (d | a) and you use the floor division operator or b | a
L1461[22:53:15] <gamax92> lperkins2: what is | ?
L1462[22:53:20] <lperkins2> divides
L1463[22:53:31] <lperkins2> a | b => b%a==0
L1464[22:53:50] <lperkins2> note that it is not the same as division,
L1465[22:53:52] * gamax92 writes a test.
L1466[22:54:15] <lperkins2> as in it is not b/a (a number), it is a boolean
L1467[22:57:18] <lperkins2> and i'm not certain about the floor division operator part, it may require b|a
L1468[22:57:32] <lperkins2> (just haven't found a counter example to that)
L1469[22:59:29] <lperkins2> and there will be other restrictions...
L1470[22:59:46] <lperkins2> maybe
L1471[22:59:59] <gamax92> hmm, i wonder why it sometimes works then
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L1473[23:00:43] <lperkins2> there is something related to this from geometry,
L1474[23:00:51] <lperkins2> basically for well formed inputs it will work,
L1475[23:01:05] <lperkins2> I am just too tired tonight to accurately work out exactly what those would be
L1476[23:01:23] <lperkins2> c must be greater than d,
L1477[23:01:51] <lperkins2> a must be a multiple of b and a multiple of d
L1478[23:03:12] <lperkins2> it actually works for more if it isn't the integer division...
L1479[23:04:11] <lperkins2> Also, I'm hitting what may be floating point issues...
L1480[23:04:28] <lperkins2> the answers are the same for 8 decimal places
L1481[23:05:54] <gamax92> it does actually fail for quite a bit :(
L1482[23:06:20] <lperkins2> okay, I think I got the list of restrictions
L1483[23:06:54] <lperkins2> maybe, hold on
L1484[23:08:39] <lperkins2> okay, it works if you are firmly in the world of discrete math
L1485[23:09:05] <lperkins2> which means that b|a and d|c
L1486[23:09:40] <lperkins2> because in discrete math, where I've seen this before, a/b is only defined if b|a
L1487[23:12:00] <lperkins2> Doing a few hundred million random tests is going to have to be enough proof for tonight, it's been like 3 years since discrete math, and its late
L1488[23:12:30] <gamax92> lperkins2: hey so, if im right, if a/b comes out with no fractional unit, can it be assumed that a%b is 0
L1489[23:12:47] <lperkins2> http://lpaste.net/120809
L1490[23:12:56] <lperkins2> yes
L1491[23:13:08] <gamax92> #lua (11/6)/(55/90)
L1492[23:13:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3
L1493[23:13:11] <gamax92> #lua (11/6)%(55/90)
L1494[23:13:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.61111111111111
L1495[23:13:14] <gamax92> lperkins2: i don't get it
L1496[23:14:16] <lperkins2> that's what I was saying about % only really being defined in the world of integers and certain fractions
L1497[23:14:25] <lperkins2> 11/6 does not qualify for it, since 6 is not prime
L1498[23:14:36] <gamax92> but technically, it should be zero?
L1499[23:14:45] <lperkins2> technically it should give NAN
L1500[23:15:07] <gamax92> wolfram gives zero
L1501[23:15:21] <gamax92> and ((a*d)%(c*b))/(d*b) gives zero
L1502[23:15:37] <lperkins2> okay,
L1503[23:15:42] <lperkins2> I'd be happy with that
L1504[23:16:55] <lperkins2> there are advanced sections of math I've not studied; at the level I have studied, I would have said NAN for all fractions in mods, but I see that they are valid when all fractions have a denominator coprime to the modulo,
L1505[23:17:20] <lperkins2> apparently someone decided by convention that any other fractions are defined as a/b%m == 0
L1506[23:17:41] <gamax92> lol ... uhh
L1507[23:18:27] <lperkins2> It is simply that most implementations of mod are naive, they're basically a%b == a-a//b
L1508[23:19:07] <gamax92> huh
L1509[23:19:14] <gamax92> #lua 6-6/2
L1510[23:19:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3
L1511[23:19:24] <lperkins2> er, no, sorry, screwed that up
L1512[23:19:34] <lperkins2> a-(a//b*b)
L1513[23:19:47] <lperkins2> #lua 6-math.floor(6/2)*2
L1514[23:19:51] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0
L1515[23:20:05] <lperkins2> #lua 7-math.floor(7/2)*2
L1516[23:20:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1
L1517[23:20:12] <gamax92> wow
L1518[23:20:24] <lperkins2> so a%b == a-(a//b)*b
L1519[23:20:44] <lperkins2> but it is only strictly true for integers and select fractions
L1520[23:20:53] <gamax92> it has to be integer division?
L1521[23:21:05] <lperkins2> yes
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L1523[23:21:22] <lperkins2> (//) is python's integer division operator
L1524[23:21:32] <gamax92> oh, so thats why you keep using //
L1525[23:21:33] <Kamran> Hey. I was wondering. How do I enable OpenComputer's GregTech recipe set?
L1526[23:21:43] <Kamran> *OpenComputers'
L1527[23:21:53] <gamax92> #lua a=(11/6) b=(55/90) return a-math.floor(a/b)*b
L1528[23:21:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.61111111111111
L1529[23:21:58] <gamax92> lperkins2: nice.
L1530[23:22:34] <lperkins2> what do you mean Kamran?
L1531[23:23:04] <lperkins2> (a/b)%(c/d) will work so long as a/b is an integer and c/d is an integer
L1532[23:23:16] <lperkins2> it may work for select fractions with that whole coprime business
L1533[23:23:40] <lperkins2> (I mean your equality from above is true)
L1534[23:24:32] <Kamran> Sangar: How do I enable OC's GregTech recipe set? I'm trying to enable it.
L1535[23:24:36] <lperkins2> http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/864568/is-it-possible-to-do-modulo-of-a-fraction
L1536[23:25:32] <lperkins2> Note that it's math syntax, so the tripple equal is not 'defined to be' or 'congruent to' like in logic
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L1540[23:41:43] <Kamran> hey asie!
L1541[23:44:16] <Kamran> asie: do you know how to enable OpenComputers' GregTech recipe set?
L1542[23:44:35] <Kamran> because i can't seem to find it in the OC config
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L1546[23:55:11] <Kamran> Lizzy: Do you know how to enable OC's GregTech recipe set?
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L1549[23:59:23] <Kamran> Hey again RaptorJeebus
L1550[23:59:31] <RaptorJeebus> hi
L1551[23:59:48] <Kamran> wait, you use OpenComputers?
L1552[23:59:51] <Kamran> :D
L1553[23:59:59] <RaptorJeebus> yup
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