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L1[00:05:25] *** LordFokas is now known as LordFokas|off
L2[00:09:16] <lordwolf76> in what file do i use computer.addUser(name: string)
L3[00:09:29] <Sandra> lordwolf76, any file?
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L5[00:09:56] <lordwolf76> so put it in autorun.lua?
L6[00:10:03] <Sandra> um...
L7[00:10:11] <lordwolf76> i figured it only needed run once,
L8[00:10:19] <lordwolf76> not sure where to call it from
L9[00:10:22] <Sandra> I think it caches so you can just run it in the lua interpreter.
L10[00:10:44] <Sandra> or there's a program you can run for it.
L11[00:11:22] <lordwolf76> if i do it from the prompt after pc is booted, i get file not found
L12[00:11:53] <Sandra> no, there's a program.
L13[00:12:06] <lordwolf76> i guess i can make an adduser program, and run it there
L14[00:12:07] <Sandra> I'll find the name of it.
L15[00:12:16] <Sandra> It's already there.
L16[00:12:30] <lordwolf76> i'll gladly wait. Thank you
L17[00:12:32] <ShadowKatStudios> *grumble* o/
L18[00:13:12] <lordwolf76> dont grumble. Be Happy
L19[00:13:15] <Sandra> (just starting minecraft.)
L20[00:14:45] <Sandra> lordwolf76, useradd <name>
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L22[00:15:49] <lordwolf76> oh wow. so easy. Many Thanks
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L24[00:19:57] <Sandra> https://imgur.com/a/6EMtA
L25[00:20:02] <Sandra> hulp.
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L29[00:34:05] <shortybsd> i run a permissions plugin on my server, when using pex toggle debug i do not see any perm issues with a robot trying to place or break a block yet it can't break or place
L30[00:34:49] <shortybsd> i looked in the config about the naming of the robot example username.robot. I've given that user permissions and so forth with no luck
L31[00:36:26] <lordwolf76> somewhere in configs is a setting for "fakeplayers" i dont remember where, but it is off by default i think
L32[00:40:36] <shortybsd> uuidFormat="$player$"
L33[00:41:52] <shortybsd> guessing you are meaning that setting. but it already defaults to username.robot if i change the uuidFormat it will then goto a fakeplayer
L34[00:42:01] <shortybsd> which then would be even worse as it could be random
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L40[01:42:41] <shortybsd> what is crazy though is pex's debug is not showing anything even trying to happen from the robot
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L78[04:26:13] <ShadowKatStudios> http://i.imgur.com/uqhtM5h.png :D
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L80[04:32:52] <Lizzy> http://i.imgur.com/OLz93Ke.png :P \o/ for name changes
L81[04:35:52] <Sandra> yey for name changes wooo.
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L83[04:40:43] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/fso7B/69582925ee.jpg
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L91[05:00:45] <Kodos> All the reactor control programs... has anyone made a turbine control one?
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L95[05:05:26] * Lizzy shrugs
L96[05:06:16] <Sandra> Kodos, it's not that hard, just do the OC mantra and DIY.
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L99[05:25:24] * Vexatos pokes Sangar
L100[05:25:51] <Vexatos> Sangar, you here? I'd like to ask you something
L101[05:32:25] <Kodos> ~w gpu
L102[05:32:25] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
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L104[05:32:53] <Kodos> Is it faster to use term.write or gpu.set
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L106[05:33:25] <Sleepdra> Kodos, gpu.set
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L108[05:33:39] <Sleepdra> native would always be faster than a wrapper.
L109[05:33:45] <Kodos> k
L110[05:33:54] <Kodos> I'm refactoring my reactor control program
L111[05:34:17] <Sleepdra> gpu.set doesn't keep the cursor position or handle newlines however.
L112[05:34:24] <Kodos> I'm aware, I have to manually call coords
L113[05:34:32] <Sleepdra> yeah.
L114[05:36:53] <Kodos> I'll likely just wrap all the status checks in a redraw function and call it that way
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L118[05:44:57] <Kodos> http://pastebin.com/Sa2SqS9y This is what I have done so far
L119[05:46:19] <Sleepdra> cool.
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L126[06:13:59] <Vexatos> Kodos, "if reactor.getEnergyStored() < 2500000 then" etc
L127[06:14:07] <Vexatos> you should change that to relative values, imo
L128[06:14:13] <Kodos> Elaborate?
L129[06:14:16] <Sangar> morning o/
L130[06:14:19] <Lizzy> \o
L131[06:14:20] <Kodos> o7
L132[06:14:22] <Sangar> well. day.
L133[06:14:33] <Vexatos> Kodos: reactor.getEnergyStored()/reactor.getMaxEnergyStored() = (somepercentvalue)
L134[06:14:47] <Vexatos> o/ Snagar
L135[06:15:00] <Kodos> Is that any more efficient?
L136[06:15:03] <Vexatos> s/=/<
L137[06:15:03] <Kibibyte> <Vexatos> Kodos: reactor.getEnergyStored()/reactor.getMaxEnergyStored() < (somepercentvalue)
L138[06:15:26] <Kodos> Technically it wouldn't be a percent value unless I math'd that too
L139[06:15:34] <Kodos> Since it would be a portion of 1
L140[06:15:41] <Vexatos> Kodos, well, then you could have the pecentage values it should turn on/off at stored in variables
L141[06:15:45] <Vexatos> on the program's top
L142[06:15:51] <Vexatos> so people can customize it more easily
L143[06:16:04] <Kodos> Hmm
L144[06:16:16] <Kodos> I dare not do this while I'm this tired (Running on 3 hours sleep atm)
L145[06:16:21] <Kodos> Remind me in ~12 hours
L146[06:17:04] * Lizzy plugs Kodos into the mains to give him a power boost
L147[06:17:24] <Kodos> No no... I've been awake for nearly 24 hours after sleeping for 3
L148[06:17:27] <Kodos> I -need- sleep
L149[06:17:41] <Kodos> I'm literally staying awake long enough to see Mom off to work and have a cup of coffee with her
L150[06:18:53] <Kodos> I'm also planning on swapping out term.write for gpu.set
L151[06:19:05] <Kodos> Because optimization
L152[06:19:52] <Kodos> No need for the entire screen to redraw every second when only the values change
L153[06:21:52] <Vexatos> Sangar, answered on that issue
L154[06:28:31] <Kodos> Woo, name change tho =D
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L158[06:32:14] <Lizzy> Kodos|Zzz: :)
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L160[06:35:38] <Sangar> Vexatos, yeah. testing a bit now, out of curiosity mainly. if that's what bc generatis in rf there's no reason not to change the conversion defaults i guess.
L161[06:36:35] <Vexatos> Sangar, basically, coal burns for 1600 ticks (i.e. 80 seconds) producing 1MJ/10RF a tick
L162[06:36:45] <Vexatos> 1600 ticks being furnace default
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L164[06:37:09] <Vexatos> (80 seconds per piece of coal, smelting takes 10 seconds per piece, can smelt 8 items per piece of coal etc.)
L165[06:37:14] <Sangar> welp, dynamo now generates 20k / coal, which is less than when i tested way back when
L166[06:37:16] <Sangar> iirc
L167[06:37:31] <Sangar> so i guess that's... acceptable
L168[06:37:36] <Vexatos> Keep in mind the TE4 dynamo is pretty overpowered :P
L169[06:38:12] <Sangar> well yeah :P keep in mind those values come from when rf was more or less te-only :P
L170[06:38:18] <Vexatos> ah
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L172[06:38:33] <Sangar> so yeah, will adjust the default
L173[06:38:34] <Vexatos> yea, I'd use BC engines for reference as they are guaranteed to produce a stable energy amount
L174[06:38:40] <Sangar> yeah
L175[06:38:58] <Vexatos> Thanks
L176[06:39:07] <Vexatos> also, make the values less random in general, please
L177[06:39:09] <Vexatos> :P
L178[06:39:17] <Sangar> they're not random >_>
L179[06:39:23] <Sangar> they're based on scientific data!
L180[06:39:24] <Vexatos> I mean, easier-to-calculate-with
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L182[06:40:15] <Vexatos> I'd actually recommend you to use RF as the base as it's the base value for most mods interfacing with OC, Sangar :P
L183[06:40:34] <Sangar> ah, well. they kinda will be since after adjusting that it'll just be rf/10
L184[06:40:52] <Vexatos> So OC values will be 1:1 to MJ again?
L185[06:40:59] <Vexatos> Because that's what Computronics has always assumed
L186[06:41:07] <Sangar> yeah. they kinda still are except there's nothing producing mj anymore :P
L187[06:41:11] <Vexatos> Making it have weird power consumtion weirdness
L188[06:41:45] <Vexatos> So, if 1OC==10RF, everything will be fine again :P
L189[06:42:10] <Sangar> so yeah, dynamo opness: 1block of coal, stirling engine: 160, dynamo: 316k
L190[06:42:23] <Sangar> 160k ofc :P
L191[06:42:25] <Vexatos> Yea
L192[06:42:35] <Vexatos> TE4's engines are extremely unbalanced
L193[06:42:36] <Vexatos> literally
L194[06:42:41] <Vexatos> the values seem totally random to me >_>
L195[06:43:04] <Sangar> also, worth to note, generating 8x faster than stirling >_>
L196[06:43:18] <Sangar> oh well
L197[06:43:33] * Vexatos can't resist linking https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhBMxdXN4vbsdFVSZGowbmt4SXpWOG9mcGFzNW5LLWc&usp=sharing again
L198[06:43:35] <Vexatos> Yea, that as well
L199[06:43:54] <Vexatos> The TE steam dynamo produces as much power as the Railcraft idustrial (tier 3) steam engine
L200[06:44:00] <Vexatos> industrial*
L201[06:44:10] <Vexatos> It's insane
L202[06:44:22] <Gopher> I've not even touched te4 yet
L203[06:44:28] <Vexatos> for the _basic_ TE engine
L204[06:44:49] <Gopher> without ducts/conduits, I don't see the point, they were the main thing I wanted from te
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L206[06:46:19] <Sangar> isn't there an alpha of that out now?
L207[06:46:47] <Gopher> could be, haven't checked in a while
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L210[06:47:30] <Vexatos> Sangar, closed alpha IIRC
L211[06:47:37] <Sangar> ah, ok
L212[06:48:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, so I guess you'll set the RF value to 10, BC to 1 and the other energy values accordingly?
L213[06:50:00] <Sangar> well, not in the config, because tiny floating point numbers in the config suck (e.g. for factorization it'd be 6.5/500), but effectively yes
L214[06:54:29] <Vexatos> Sangar, the comment above the values should contain the proper calculation, then
L215[06:54:54] <Vexatos> so you can calculate the OC<->RF ratio from the config file
L216[06:55:15] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L217[06:55:50] <Sangar> ?
L218[06:56:27] <Sangar> oh, you mean the scaling? that's just the bc value, but i guess i can mention that there, sure
L219[06:56:39] <Sangar> tho the bc value kinda will be removed i guess
L220[06:56:44] <Sangar> so the rf value then
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L222[06:58:32] <Vexatos> Yea
L223[06:59:01] <Vexatos> So, Sangar, I assume RF value will be the new 500 then? (assuming that previously was your base)
L224[06:59:26] <Vexatos> or you could have the base me 1000
L225[06:59:29] <Vexatos> s/me/be
L226[06:59:30] <Kibibyte> <Vexatos> or you could have the base be 1000
L227[06:59:49] <Vexatos> that'd make smaller values without decimals possible
L228[07:00:25] <Kodos|Zzz> Home from Mom's, she says hi to everyone. Now I'm going to go pass out
L229[07:00:31] <Sangar> i dunno. will need to test some more. and re-test all the values after that. so probably not today :P
L230[07:00:41] <Sangar> uh, k. hi back :P
L231[07:00:51] <Kodos|Zzz> Lol
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L233[07:01:14] <Kodos|Zzz> Well, all my RL friends pretty much don't come around anymore, so you guys are all I have =P
L234[07:01:19] <Kodos|Zzz> Well, and my wife
L235[07:01:56] <Vexatos> Sangar, is is possible in your config system to re-generate the values during an update?
L236[07:02:50] <Sangar> Vexatos, yes
L237[07:02:57] <Vexatos> k
L238[07:03:37] <Sangar> Kodos|Zzz, ah, well. tell your frieds to use irc, then, i guess? :/
L239[07:03:50] <Kodos|Zzz> They're all too busy either getting drunk, stoned, or married
L240[07:03:59] <Kodos|Zzz> And I have no interest in the drug and alcohol scene
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L244[07:13:17] <Negi> YOOOOOOOOO IGN changed \o
L245[07:18:00] <Vexatos> Sangar needs to change his name as well :P
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L247[07:18:21] <Vexatos> By the way, am I the only one in here who wasn't too stupid to pick a good name when having made my account?
L248[07:18:29] <Vexatos> >_>
L249[07:18:34] <Vexatos> Everyone's changing their name
L250[07:18:38] <Gopher> lol
L251[07:18:42] <Sangar> good point
L252[07:18:54] <Vexatos> Sangar, new IGN Snagar please
L253[07:18:59] <Gopher> I'm pretty much Gopher or GopherAtl, usually the latter
L254[07:19:08] <Sangar> Vexatos, heh. too late :P
L255[07:19:11] <Gopher> used to use Gopher42, so still that in a few places
L256[07:19:25] <Vexatos> I am just Vexatos
L257[07:19:28] <Vexatos> and I've always been
L258[07:19:30] <Lizzy> right, now to go sit in the server room and sort through which phones work and which dont
L259[07:19:32] <Ivoah> I'm just Ivoah
L260[07:19:41] <Vexatos> Because I am not stupid enough to choose something like Kethtar
L261[07:19:45] <Gopher> Gopher is too common for just plain Gopher to be a reliable choice
L262[07:19:46] <Vexatos> *cough cough*
L263[07:19:59] <Ivoah> The name Ivoah is nearly always free
L264[07:20:08] <Vexatos> Also, Sangar, I hope computers store their user list as UUIDs
L265[07:20:13] <Negi> Vexatos: I was young and stupid when I bought Minecraft :]
L266[07:20:13] <Vexatos> Otherwise you'll be screwed
L267[07:20:24] <Gopher> the funny thing is, while Gopher is almost always taken, it's very rarely actively /used/ by anyone else
L268[07:20:44] <Gopher> I used to search after joining a forum and finding "Gopher" taken, there were almost never any posts by the gopher account :P
L269[07:20:47] <Sangar> Vexatos, they don't and i honestly don't care enough right now >_>
L270[07:21:05] <Vexatos> asielib's nickname system uses names, not UUIDs
L271[07:21:08] <Vexatos> but that's intentional
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L273[07:21:57] <CompanionCube> I almost never use my IRC nick as a user nick.
L274[07:22:06] <Sangar> i might change it in 1.5, but priorities are different atm :P
L275[07:22:22] <Vexatos> Sangar, right, power consumpticationifying is more important
L276[07:22:29] <Vexatos> :P
L277[07:26:37] *** LearningFairy is now known as Daiyousei
L278[07:30:09] <Sangar> drones can place blocks \o/
L279[07:30:15] <Caitlyn> HAX
L280[07:30:17] <Caitlyn> OP
L281[07:30:21] <Caitlyn> HAXXYOP!
L282[07:30:22] <Sangar> ikr
L283[07:30:35] <Caitlyn> :P j/k yay!
L284[07:31:00] <Gopher> eh
L285[07:31:23] ⇦ Quits: ping (~pixel@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L286[07:31:31] <Gopher> no offense, but oc's drones are too similar to robots at this point for my taste
L287[07:31:39] <Gopher> makes them feel kindof redundant
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L289[07:31:48] zsh sets mode: +v on ping
L290[07:32:15] <Sangar> well, they can't use tools for one :P
L291[07:32:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, drones are too OP now D:
L292[07:32:27] <Vexatos> Noone will ever use robots anymore
L293[07:32:34] <Vexatos> 4kB of OPness
L294[07:32:40] <Vexatos> U:
L295[07:32:40] <Gopher> lol
L296[07:32:50] <Gopher> other way around, actually :P
L297[07:32:56] <Vexatos> That's 4000 highly overpowered bytes
L298[07:33:00] <Sangar> eh, robots are still more powerful
L299[07:33:05] <Vexatos> four thousand
L300[07:33:11] <Gopher> I don't see enough reason to use drones instead of robots
L301[07:33:11] <Vexatos> U:
L302[07:33:27] <Vexatos> Since robots are going to have a limited flight height
L303[07:33:38] <Gopher> they are? O_o
L304[07:33:45] <Sangar> yeah
L305[07:33:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, will there be an upgrade to increase the flight height?
L306[07:33:51] <Sangar> yes
L307[07:33:52] <Vexatos> Like, double or triple it?
L308[07:33:58] <Sangar> that's the plan anyway
L309[07:34:01] <Vexatos> Sangar, call itAscension Upgrade
L310[07:34:05] <Vexatos> U:
L311[07:34:19] <Sangar> it'll be crafted using a drone :P
L312[07:34:23] <Sangar> (no it wont)
L313[07:34:36] <Caitlyn> duct taping drones to robots!
L314[07:34:45] <Vexatos> Ascension upgrade: Requires some Thaumcraft arcane levitators
L315[07:36:14] *** Kiloff is now known as Kilobyte
L316[07:37:45] <Sangar> as for the overlap, yeah, that is a concern, but i think with limiting the flight height of robots and drones not being able to use tools (which also means they can't break anything that can't be harvested by hand) and only having a comparatively tiny inventory there's still enough of a difference.
L317[07:38:02] <Gopher> I suppose
L318[07:38:26] <Sangar> i'm also hoping some other ideas for entity interaction will pop up over time that just aren't possible with robots :P
L319[07:38:27] <Gopher> the height restriction thing feels more like forcing people to use them than giving people reason to want to use them tho
L320[07:39:12] <Gopher> how's the height restriction gonna be implemented? straight "can't move up if x blocks above lower block" or will side-touching be a factor?
L321[07:39:33] <Sangar> well, yeah. that's because it's an added restriction though, if it'd been like that from the start, i think you'd see that different no?
L322[07:39:33] <Gopher> 'cause if the former, it would render all my robot mining programs useless
L323[07:40:16] <Sangar> as for that, i'm not 100% sure yet, there was some discussing on github.
L324[07:40:56] <Sangar> the "can move up as long as near a wall" seems like a reasonable compromise to avoid having them dig their own grave, though, yes.
L325[07:41:02] <Gopher> I guess I could just use "Waste" material like cobblestone to replace ground below the robot while ascending
L326[07:41:28] <Sangar> yeah
L327[07:41:55] <Gopher> though that's trickier than it sounds on the face since robots can't place blocks in air
L328[07:42:14] <Gopher> by definition there won't be enough cobble to fill the entire shaft, unless the shaft had no air or ore
L329[07:42:49] <Gopher> so prior to moving up it would have to make sure there was a wall around it that it could place against to get a block below them after moving up
L330[07:42:50] <Sangar> placing in air: of course, but that boils down to the same problem as having a nearby wall to "climb"
L331[07:43:33] <Sangar> as for completely filling: not needed; flight height limitation still means they *can* fly, just not arbitrarily high. for a default i'm currently thinking ~8 blocks
L332[07:44:14] <Gopher> yeah, I'm just thinking that the cycle would have to be "climb 7 blocks; check to make sure there's at least one wall around me to place down against later; if not, place one. then climb one more, place down, and repeat"
L333[07:44:22] *** Keridos_off is now known as Keridos
L334[07:44:31] <Gopher> or just switch to horizontal shaft mining, of course
L335[07:44:40] <Sangar> indeed
L336[07:45:09] <Gopher> assuming that the wall climbing will mean it cna float out one block over a cliff long enough to place down against the cliff edge, and build bridges for itself
L337[07:45:33] <Sangar> the more i think about the more i like the (additional) concept of "climbing", i.e. allow moving up as long as theres a block on the sides, since that'll make it much less likely for existing programs to break, i think.
L338[07:45:34] <Sangar> yeah
L339[07:46:04] <Sangar> the current consensus - minus climbing - was: allow moving as long as the start *or* the target position is valid. and always allow going down.
L340[07:46:17] <Gopher> technically it wouldn't have a wall next to it, necessarily - certainly not behind it, where it came from - OR one below it, and no way to know what's going to be below until it gets there
L341[07:46:29] <Gopher> gotcha
L342[07:47:05] <Sangar> combined with the climbing that'd mean it'd *always* be able to return to where it came from, even when going down, which i like
L343[07:47:14] <Gopher> then it wouldn't have to search for walls at 7 moves climbing a shaft, as it would almost always be able to place a wall block next to it if needed at that point
L344[07:47:27] <Gopher> only having to backtrack down if it's in a 3x3x3 or larger open space
L345[07:47:37] <Sangar> mhm
L346[07:47:43] <Vexatos> Sangar, what happens if the robot is 8 blocks above the ground / adjacent to a wall and you break the ground/wall block
L347[07:47:54] <Gopher> actually, would be easier to just ensure a continuous wall on one face of the shaft while mining down
L348[07:48:07] <Sangar> Vexatos, well then you have to go back down. it's like digging straight down :X
L349[07:48:17] <Vexatos> Sangar, I mean, will the robot fall?
L350[07:48:22] <Sangar> Vexatos, ah, no
L351[07:48:24] <Sangar> it won't
L352[07:48:24] <Vexatos> or will it just stay there, unable to move anywhere
L353[07:48:26] <Vexatos> but down
L354[07:48:30] <Sangar> exactly
L355[07:48:32] <Vexatos> k
L356[07:48:44] <Gopher> well, if it can move if the destination is valid even if the start wasn't
L357[07:48:58] <Gopher> then it could dig a chunk out of a wall and move freely in any direction there was still wall on that side
L358[07:49:04] <Vexatos> Sangar, will ceiling-climbing work?
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L360[07:49:21] <Sangar> Vexatos, hrm.
L361[07:50:08] <Sangar> it'd kinda be consequent if it did, i guess?
L362[07:50:16] <Vexatos> yes
L363[07:50:32] <Vexatos> :P
L364[07:53:01] * Lizzy is back
L365[07:55:39] <Gopher> I guess I'm just wanting to use drones the way I would use quadrotors, and they don't really fit that role the same way.
L366[07:56:13] <Gopher> when lyqyd and I worked out the design for quadrotors, the idea was for them to be very mission-specific - they're essentially pipes without pipes.
L367[07:56:33] <Vexatos> Gopher, you can use them for item/fluid transport
L368[07:57:06] <Gopher> yes, but it feels more like using a robot/turtle and less like an actual alternative
L369[07:57:28] <Gopher> we designed them to be cheap and light-weight in both server and in-game resources
L370[07:57:37] <Gopher> quadrotors are meant to be used in swarms
L371[07:58:12] <Gopher> they're quick and easy to set up and modify, compared to turtles
L372[07:59:06] <Gopher> but that's me bringing my own expectations in, and so my reaction to drones is not objective, is my point
L373[07:59:46] <Vexatos> imo drones are what they are in OC, highly advanced magically flying thingies
L374[08:02:23] <Caitlyn> Party over heeeeerrreeeee
L375[08:02:42] <Caitlyn> Refund approved :D
L376[08:04:20] <Lizzy> \o/
L377[08:04:23] * Lizzy brings cake
L378[08:05:06] *** Kilobyte is now known as Kiloff
L379[08:05:51] *** gAway2002 is now known as g
L380[08:06:20] <Caitlyn> I can fix my car now.. maybe
L381[08:06:23] ⇦ Quits: Gopher (~Gopher@45.sub-70-193-134.myvzw.com) (Ping timeout: 198 seconds)
L382[08:06:46] <Sangar> aaand, there here goes, right before my essay of a reply >_>
L383[08:06:57] <Lizzy> lol
L384[08:07:04] <Caitlyn> Well... atleasti t was just a ping timeout.. he might be back :P
L385[08:07:16] <Caitlyn> stick it in a notepad :P
L386[08:07:40] <Lizzy> $insult 553
L387[08:07:43] <Lizzy> :/
L388[08:07:46] <Caitlyn> o_O
L389[08:07:47] * Lizzy stabs SuPeRMiNoR2
L390[08:07:53] * Lizzy stabs SuperBot
L391[08:08:11] <Vexatos> Sangar, post it anyway
L392[08:08:12] <Lizzy> [14:08] <@Lizzy> $insult 553 [14:08] <SuperBot> Lizzy: Fag Kissing Queef Fritter Turd Drinking Twat Butter Ugly Fashion-illiterate Toerag
L393[08:08:23] <Caitlyn> wat
L394[08:08:37] <Lizzy> SuPeRMiNoR2 added an insult maker into SuperBot
L395[08:09:14] <Sangar> Vexatos, "Gopher, ah, yeah, these drones are much more heavy-weight, true. a sub-one tier drone that has no own computer but must be remote controlled might be interesting; unless what you've described is a released mod and it can be controlled from oc, in which case point me towards it, i'm interested :>"
L396[08:09:17] <Caitlyn> wдt
L397[08:09:54] <Caitlyn> wдt ftw
L398[08:11:38] * Vexatos throws soft bricks at Cruor|Away
L399[08:11:59] <Caitlyn> wow wildcard certs are expeeeeeeensive
L400[08:12:05] <Lizzy> yeah
L401[08:12:13] * gamax92 throws sharpened heated bricks covered in spikes at Vexatos
L402[08:12:32] ⇦ Quits: iceman11a (iceman11a@cpe-74-141-56-150.swo.res.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving)
L403[08:12:34] * Vexatos throws brick-coated cake at gamax92
L404[08:12:50] <Caitlyn> ooh namecheap has them for less then $100 a year though
L405[08:12:51] <Caitlyn> niiice
L406[08:14:18] <Negi> $100 is expensive tho
L407[08:14:43] <gamax92> Renting an apartment costs more than that
L408[08:15:08] <Caitlyn> Negi, $100 is not expensive for a wildcard SSL cert... when they usually run upwards of $500
L409[08:15:34] <Caitlyn> afk
L410[08:15:35] * Lizzy is trying again to get a StartSSL cert
L411[08:15:47] <Negi> Everything > $20 is expensive for me.
L412[08:15:55] ⇨ Joins: ds84182 (ds84182@Bash.Is.Better.Than.zsh.PanicBNC.ca)
L413[08:15:57] <Negi> Lizzy: Good Effin Luck with that.
L414[08:16:12] <Lizzy> Negi: i know
L415[08:16:44] ⇦ Quits: orthoplex64 (~orthoplex@cpe-68-206-247-199.satx.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 198 seconds)
L416[08:18:08] <Caitlyn> startssl is who I'm using atm... only issue is java doesn't trust their CA so I have to install it on users computers fpr my dyndns clinet to work
L417[08:18:12] <Caitlyn> which is meh
L418[08:19:03] * Negi is looking at Jython's doc.
L419[08:19:07] * Negi sighs.
L420[08:19:15] <Caitlyn> https://api.pcldns.com/v1.3 works in everything other than java
L421[08:20:34] <Negi> User credentials in a GET ? ._.
L422[08:21:52] *** Benguin[ZzZ] is now known as Benguin
L423[08:22:15] <Caitlyn> old docs negi
L424[08:22:34] <Caitlyn> that's a copy/paste from the priginal api spec
L425[08:22:42] <Caitlyn> original
L426[08:22:45] <Negi> :v
L427[08:22:48] <gamax92> penguin api spec
L428[08:22:59] <ds84182> https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr
L429[08:22:59] <Caitlyn> -_-
L430[08:23:09] <gamax92> oh yeah, opensource .NET
L431[08:23:15] <Caitlyn> yep
L432[08:23:27] <ds84182> .NET IS OPEN SOURCE OH MY GOD
L433[08:23:59] <Negi> HOLY
L434[08:24:14] <ds84182> DOT NET IS OPEN SOURCE, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT COMPILE ON LINUX
L435[08:24:27] <g> they're not _trying_ to make it compile on linux
L436[08:24:30] <ds84182> ITS INSANE ⊙﹏⊙
L437[08:24:30] <g> it compiles on linux.
L438[08:24:46] <ds84182> OH SHIT.
L439[08:25:09] <ds84182> WELL, SLAP MY KEYBOARD AND CALL ME CAPSLOCK.
L440[08:25:10] <gamax92> ds84182: pls
L441[08:25:16] <gamax92> my eyes do not need this in the morning
L442[08:25:19] <Negi> http://past.is/1xKNs \o/
L443[08:25:23] <ds84182> ⊙﹏⊙
L444[08:25:38] <Negi> I'm taking this way too seriously.
L445[08:25:49] ⇦ Parts: gamax92 (gamax92@The.Dragon.Slayer.PanicBNC.eu) (Leaving))
L446[08:25:55] ⇨ Joins: gamax92 (gamax92@The.Dragon.Slayer.PanicBNC.eu)
L447[08:25:55] zsh sets mode: +v on gamax92
L448[08:25:57] <gamax92> omfg tabs
L449[08:25:58] <gamax92> pls
L450[08:26:36] <gamax92> Negi: D: French?
L451[08:26:42] ⇨ Joins: samis (~samis@95f19328.skybroadband.com)
L452[08:27:00] <ds84182> Famished malnourishment
L453[08:27:08] <ds84182> Tanks keyboards
L454[08:27:20] <Negi> gamax92: What are u talking about ?
L455[08:27:25] <ds84182> Menuhin's trig degustation
L456[08:27:29] <gamax92> your url shortner
L457[08:27:33] <Negi> Yeah
L458[08:27:39] <Negi> pastis is also an alcohol :I
L459[08:27:43] <ds84182> Word crush Sufi significant kitten
L460[08:28:22] <Negi> Also gamax92 pay no attention to the carrier but rather to the content
L461[08:28:28] <Temia> Jesus, ds. Open source .NET isn't news.
L462[08:28:48] <Negi> Temia: It is for me :I
L463[08:28:50] ⇦ Quits: CompanionCube (~samis@95f16bfe.skybroadband.com) (Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
L464[08:28:53] <gamax92> same
L465[08:28:53] * Temia petitions Sangar for a +c channelmode.
L466[08:29:04] <ds84182> Temia, the core clr source was posted last night
L467[08:29:04] <gamax92> +c is no colors right?
L468[08:29:07] <Temia> Ah.
L469[08:29:10] <Temia> Yes, it is.
L470[08:29:15] <Vexatos> No +c D:
L471[08:29:17] <gamax92> Sangar: Can has +c
L472[08:29:22] <ds84182> No
L473[08:29:22] <Vexatos> This is madness!
L474[08:29:22] *** EnderBot2 is now known as Leonidas
L475[08:29:22] <Leonidas> Madness....?
L476[08:29:23] <Leonidas> THIS.
L477[08:29:23] <Leonidas> IS.
L478[08:29:24] <Leonidas> #oc!!
L479[08:29:24] <Temia> Well, the initiative's been public for a bit.
L480[08:29:25] *** Leonidas is now known as EnderBot2
L481[08:29:25] <EnderBot2> Seriously, what did you think this was?
L482[08:29:27] <Lizzy> ha
L483[08:29:31] <gamax92> spambotisspam
L484[08:29:44] <Vexatos> gamax92, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_eYSuPKP3Y
L485[08:29:44] -Kibibyte- [Vexatos] Spam - Monty Python's The Flying Circus | by montypython | 2m14s | 316w0d ago | 853,994 views | Rated: 4.91/5.00
L486[08:29:50] <ds84182> #lua "BotspM"
L487[08:29:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > BotspM
L488[08:29:51] <gamax92> nah
L489[08:29:56] <Temia> Vex, fun fact.
L490[08:30:11] <Temia> I just referenced the spam skit in a piece of code for college twenty minutes ago.
L491[08:30:17] <Negi> Did I ever sent this link : http://viridian-sun.tumblr.com/post/106369852007 ?
L492[08:30:32] <gamax92> umm that url
L493[08:30:44] <gamax92> umm that content
L494[08:31:09] <Negi> Don't watch Boku no Pico, kids.
L495[08:31:10] <ds84182> Holy eye water
L496[08:31:16] <Temia> Yeah, don't
L497[08:31:22] <gamax92> To bad I did.
L498[08:31:23] <Negi> ESPECIALLY kids*
L499[08:31:30] <Temia> You sick fuck.
L500[08:31:36] <gamax92> Was not worth it 0/10
L501[08:31:40] <ds84182> OH DEAR GOD WHAT THE SHIT
L502[08:31:43] <Temia> And that's coming from the resident fujoshi.
L503[08:31:55] <ds84182> ARE THOSE LITTLE KIDS
L504[08:32:01] <Negi> I TOLD YOU DS
L505[08:32:05] <ds84182> WHST THE SHIT
L506[08:32:06] <Negi> I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE STAIRS
L507[08:32:16] * Temia facepalms
L508[08:32:27] <ds84182> I MAY BE GAY BUT THAT DOES NOT TURN ME ON
L509[08:32:34] * gamax92 palmfaces
L510[08:32:49] <ds84182> My eyes
L511[08:32:52] <ds84182> Hurt
L512[08:32:56] <Negi> ds, no one is turned on by that shit.
L513[08:33:08] <Negi> http://viridian-sun.tumblr.com/post/106369852007 Here, clean your eyes with the FINEST SACK.
L514[08:33:15] <gamax92> What is going on.
L515[08:33:19] <ds84182> Idklol
L516[08:33:22] <Negi> Crap
L517[08:33:24] <Temia> Technically there are or else it wouldn't have been profitable BUT YEAH, certainly none here.
L518[08:33:25] <Negi> http://the-french-toast-queen.tumblr.com/post/106367520239
L519[08:33:30] <Negi> Fu* buffers.
L520[08:33:33] <gamax92> wдt
L521[08:33:50] <ds84182> °Д°
L522[08:34:17] <Negi> I have weird links in my RTS folder. ._.
L523[08:34:30] <ds84182> WHДT
L524[08:34:42] <Negi> RTS stands here for Random Tumblr Shit.
L525[08:34:47] <ds84182> 'Д'
L526[08:34:48] <gamax92> Negi: Can I have SWF's
L527[08:34:56] <ds84182> ' Д '
L528[08:34:56] <Lizzy> ....
L529[08:35:01] * vifino hugs Temia :D
L530[08:35:18] <Negi> gamax92: Tumblr ain't no SWF files.
L531[08:35:35] * Temia moos .-. hugs back.
L532[08:35:44] * gamax92 hugs Temia as well
L533[08:35:46] <ds84182> ››› Д ‹‹‹
L534[08:35:51] <gamax92> shaddup ds
L535[08:35:54] * Negi gives GIFs to gamax92 instead : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75900517/GIF/0002.gif
L536[08:36:01] <ds84182> Me eyes
L537[08:36:06] <ds84182> They hurt
L538[08:36:16] <gamax92> dafak
L539[08:36:20] <gamax92> Me eyes
L540[08:36:23] <gamax92> They hurt
L541[08:36:30] <Temia> This is why you always check wikipedia first, web video second
L542[08:36:48] <Negi> My bullshit level is way higher than yours :')
L543[08:36:58] * Negi has built a resistance to all kinds of bullshit.
L544[08:36:59] <ds84182> Temia, i simply googled iy
L545[08:37:06] <Temia> Oh.
L546[08:37:18] <ds84182> The card came up of the tv show
L547[08:37:23] <Temia> ...Well that's why you don't just type shit into google when you don't know what it is.
L548[08:37:37] <gamax92> This is why you disconnect your internet, turn off all of the lights, curl up in the corner of the room, and sit there
L549[08:37:41] <ds84182> Д_Д
L550[08:38:00] <vifino> Time to either add compile time evaluation to my lua compiler or implement an nodejs express-type middleware system in my lua cgi app.
L551[08:38:04] <vifino> Wat do.
L552[08:38:04] <Negi> People that always change their Tumblr IDs piss me off.
L553[08:38:29] <gamax92> Negi: Danko
L554[08:38:30] <Negi> vifino : You have a valid Lua CGI ?
L555[08:38:38] <vifino> I do.
L556[08:38:52] <gamax92> vifino: but i thought it was m's
L557[08:39:04] <ds84182> -.-
L558[08:39:07] <vifino> gamax92: Yes, then i overhauled it completely
L559[08:39:11] <gamax92> oh okay.
L560[08:39:21] ⇦ Quits: samis (~samis@95f19328.skybroadband.com) (Ping timeout: 378 seconds)
L561[08:39:38] <Negi> Someone, help me make choices °Д°
L562[08:39:42] <vifino> gamax92: but the index is still mostly from him, i just embedded the css files because of reasons.
L563[08:39:44] <ds84182> °Д°
L564[08:39:53] <Negi> °Д°
L565[08:39:59] <vifino> ._.
L566[08:40:04] <gamax92> Negi: i read that as clothes
L567[08:40:05] <ds84182> …
L568[08:40:11] <gamax92> and was like why do you need to make clothes
L569[08:40:12] * vifino slaps ds84182 and Negi
L570[08:40:12] * EnderBot2 laughs
L571[08:40:16] <ds84182> ¡
L572[08:40:20] *** Queen_Elsa is now known as Csstform
L573[08:40:24] <Negi> gamax92 : I need help for crafting a cosplay too but that's a detail.
L574[08:40:35] <Negi> Csstform: Did you let it go ?
L575[08:40:40] * Negi slaps vifino
L576[08:40:40] * EnderBot2 laughs
L577[08:40:40] * vifino would slap Negi, but is not being violent today
L578[08:40:40] <Temia> Collaborating on making cute clothes is always fun too 'w'
L579[08:40:45] <Temia> Though I'm not good at it ._.
L580[08:40:57] <ds84182> ★
L581[08:40:59] <Negi> Temia: Yeah no me either.
L582[08:41:12] <Negi> Also I still DON'T UNDERSTAND why people assume I'm a girl T_T
L583[08:41:23] <gamax92> Negi: your name ends in a vowel
L584[08:41:24] <ds84182> ♪~!
L585[08:41:35] <vifino> Nego.
L586[08:41:37] <Csstform> Negi: I let it go so hard
L587[08:41:45] <gamax92> O.O
L588[08:41:47] <Temia> His name is literally Japanese for leek.
L589[08:42:00] <ds84182> ≈≈double tilde
L590[08:42:00] <vifino> s/ek/et/
L591[08:42:01] <Kibibyte> <Temia> His name is literally Japanese for leet.
L592[08:42:01] <Temia> He's a fucking vegetable.
L593[08:42:01] <gamax92> Yes but ...
L594[08:42:03] <Negi> Thanks Temia for acknowledging me.
L595[08:42:04] <gamax92> It ends in a vowel
L596[08:42:07] * Temia punches ds.
L597[08:42:07] <Csstform> Negi: you ARE a.... owait
L598[08:42:13] <Csstform> thazrite
L599[08:42:17] <Csstform> I remember this convo
L600[08:42:18] <gamax92> just like Temia ends in a vowel
L601[08:42:19] * vifino hugs Negi
L602[08:42:20] <Csstform> kbye
L603[08:42:27] * Negi hugs vifino
L604[08:42:27] <vifino> I knew it since ever.
L605[08:42:38] <ds84182> °Д°™
L606[08:42:46] <vifino> \o/ Friendship \o/
L607[08:42:51] <Temia> That hasn't stopped some people from thinking I'm a guy instead, Gamax.
L608[08:42:52] <ds84182> …
L609[08:42:52] * Temia shrug.
L610[08:42:52] <Negi> That's why I use "xe" and not s·he at first, dangit.
L611[08:43:00] <gamax92> Temia: are you a guy?
L612[08:43:03] <Temia> No.
L613[08:43:13] <gamax92> :D
L614[08:43:20] <gamax92> I did something correct.
L615[08:43:28] <vifino> Oh shit.
L616[08:43:36] <vifino> Didn'thappen.
L617[08:43:39] <vifino> :P
L618[08:43:44] <gamax92> vifino: :'(
L619[08:43:51] * vifino hugs gamax92
L620[08:43:52] <Negi> Also there's a guy on the other IRC server I'm logged on called "Pickle" and a girl called "Pan".
L621[08:44:06] <vifino> o_O
L622[08:44:11] <Negi> Well, the french names for these anyway.
L623[08:44:19] <Negi> Aka Cornichon and Casserole.
L624[08:44:22] <ds84182> panfish
L625[08:44:40] <gamax92> Negi: if thats in respective orders, n is not a vowel and e is a vowel
L626[08:44:51] <ds84182> Cornichon Casserole dressing
L627[08:45:25] <gamax92> crap
L628[08:45:27] <gamax92> i need breakfast
L629[08:45:33] <ds84182> Look
L630[08:45:35] <Temia> Why am I not surprised Negi hands around with other food items `-`
L631[08:45:40] <Temia> ...
L632[08:45:45] <Temia> I need breakfast too ._.
L633[08:45:48] <ds84182> '.'
L634[08:45:49] * vifino hands Temia cake
L635[08:46:01] <ds84182> Tennis cake
L636[08:46:12] <vifino> ._.
L637[08:46:17] <vifino> No, Cake-cake.
L638[08:46:19] <ds84182> Cufflink handed tennis cake
L639[08:46:26] * vifino stabs ds84182
L640[08:46:28] <ds84182> Thanks swipe
L641[08:46:36] <Negi> And people who connect with registered nicks and don't login to Services (NS is actually called Mango) are renamed to "Badger*" with * a random number.
L642[08:46:43] <ds84182> Cocobolo stabbed daisies
L643[08:47:09] <ds84182> Badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom
L644[08:48:20] <ds84182> http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com
L645[08:48:20] <Negi> Tbh that other server is populated as much of edible products as a walmart.
L646[08:48:38] <vifino> Banana.
L647[08:48:44] <ds84182> Is there cake
L648[08:48:53] <vifino> The cake is a lie.
L649[08:49:05] <ds84182> ?
L650[08:49:10] <Negi> But no one said anything about ICE CREAM SANDWICHES
L651[08:49:13] <gamax92> i cannot see that 01F34C
L652[08:49:25] <gamax92> Negi: :O
L653[08:49:28] <gamax92> can haz
L654[08:49:33] <gamax92> CAN HAS ICECREAM
L655[08:49:37] <ds84182> ?
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L657[08:50:59] <gamax92> i cannot see that 01F366
L658[08:52:54] * Negi wants to develop sth for Minetest.
L659[08:52:59] <Negi> Where useful doc ?
L660[08:53:06] <Negi> How make dynamic blocks ?
L661[08:53:16] <Negi> ·~·
L662[08:53:34] <Negi> The dev wiki is so incomplete.
L663[08:57:42] <gamax92> Cat logic, there is a cable that is placed higher up than you, what do? JUMP OVER IT OF COURSE
L664[08:58:07] <vifino> No, eat it :x
L665[08:58:07] <Caitlyn> Of course...
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L669[09:05:28] <Sangar> til i can just click the checkboxes in issues on github >_>
L670[09:05:51] <Lizzy> lol
L671[09:05:57] <Caitlyn> lol
L672[09:06:05] <Vexatos> Sangar, I learned that years ago
L673[09:06:08] <Vexatos> (1.5 months)
L674[09:06:08] <Temia> GODDAMNIT
L675[09:06:16] <Temia> I keep hitting Super+R by reflex
L676[09:06:21] <Temia> I'M NOT ON WINDOWS ANYMORE
L677[09:06:23] * Temia facepalms
L678[09:06:24] <Lizzy> lol
L679[09:06:33] <Sangar> i accidentally did it. always edited the body manually until now :X
L680[09:06:37] <Lizzy> i keep trying to do CTRL+ALT+T on windows
L681[09:07:45] <vifino> I gotta set up a freebsd box once again sometime.
L682[09:08:15] <Caitlyn> Lizzy, we need to kidnap esper users and stick them on PC-Logix.
L683[09:08:27] <Lizzy> Caitlyn: maybe....
L684[09:08:38] * Lizzy likes darknet
L685[09:08:39] <darktomas> vifino, would you recommend it over linux?
L686[09:08:49] <vifino> darktomas: Nope.
L687[09:09:12] <Caitlyn> hmm I need to add the new server to the rr...
L688[09:09:41] <Lizzy> Caitlyn: what extra modules does pc-logix use? i recall having to add one at some point
L689[09:09:56] <Caitlyn> m_pretenduser
L690[09:10:02] <Lizzy> ah
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L692[09:10:40] <darktomas> vifino, ok thx :)
L693[09:10:58] <Caitlyn> I was going to upgrade your server... but I don't have the login info anymore :P
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L696[09:12:55] <Lizzy> Caitlyn: give me a public key you want me to put in it via pm and i'll put it in the auth'd keys
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L700[09:22:01] <GunArm1> for random machines like the capacitor bank, where does the API come from? the adapter block itself? or (in that case) enderIO?
L701[09:22:12] <gamax92> Caitlyn: can be on PC-Logix? yes yes?
L702[09:22:19] <Vexatos> GunArm1, depends
L703[09:22:27] <Vexatos> Most likely Computronics
L704[09:22:35] <Caitlyn> gamax92, sure
L705[09:22:47] <Caitlyn> It's an open network :P
L706[09:22:59] <gamax92> except i don't know where it it :<
L707[09:23:06] <Caitlyn> irc.pc-logix.com ..
L708[09:23:12] <gamax92> ahh okay.
L709[09:23:34] <GunArm1> Vexatos: interesting, although neither of those two blocks are computroncis, it extends the functionality between them?
L710[09:23:42] <Vexatos> Exactly
L711[09:24:11] <Vexatos> it hooks into OC's API to allow you to place an adapter adjacent to a capacitor bank. it basically is a relay between OC and the mod
L712[09:24:35] <Vexatos> Computronics supports pretty much every EnderIO block
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L714[09:25:09] <GunArm1> does it do that with many other mods?
L715[09:25:23] <Negi> s/EnderIO//
L716[09:25:23] <Kibibyte> <Vexatos> Computronics supports pretty much every block
L717[09:25:37] <Vexatos> GunArm1, it does indeed
L718[09:25:38] <GunArm1> hehe
L719[09:25:46] <Vexatos> This relaying functionality is core part of the mod
L720[09:25:51] <Vexatos> making up more than 50% of it
L721[09:26:10] <GunArm1> i didn't realize it was more than the extra peripherals in the NEI
L722[09:26:18] <Negi> I don't know if it's up to date, GunArm1, but there's a list here http://mc.shinonome.ch/doku.php?id=wiki:computronics
L723[09:26:34] <Vexatos> GunArm1, see https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/tree/master/src/main/java/pl/asie/computronics/integration
L724[09:26:39] <Vexatos> If you browse those folders
L725[09:26:51] <Vexatos> anything starting with "Driver" is such a kind of support
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L727[09:27:12] <GunArm1> Vexatos: I was just looking there
L728[09:27:24] <Vexatos> It also adds some mod-specific blocks
L729[09:27:36] <Vexatos> for example the digital detector and signal box in case Railcraft is present
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L731[09:28:09] <Vexatos> Railcraft integration is almost 20% of the entire mod
L732[09:28:14] <Vexatos> EnderIO integration is almost 10%
L733[09:28:44] <Vexatos> The EnderIO dimensional transceiver alone has 21 functions exposed to OpenComputers :P
L734[09:28:47] <GunArm1> this repo seems to be a good place for figuring out the api too
L735[09:28:55] <GunArm1> LOL that doesn't surprise me
L736[09:29:16] <GunArm1> dat gui
L737[09:29:33] <Vexatos> ((someone != me) really needs to update the computronics wiki)
L738[09:30:26] <GunArm1> thats kinda how I got wondering about this, I was sure what wiki to look in for functions of odd machines
L739[09:30:37] <GunArm1> s/was/wasn't
L740[09:30:37] <Kibibyte> <GunArm1> thats kinda how I got wondering about this, I wasn't sure what wiki to look in for functions of odd machines
L741[09:30:44] <Vexatos> http://wiki.porphyrion.tk/wiki:computronics :P
L742[09:30:47] <Vexatos> Highly outdated
L743[09:31:30] <GunArm1> given the choice i'd rather undocumented features than an unimplemented spec
L744[09:33:43] <Negi> Vexatos : Is there anything adding EnderIO OC conduits anywhere, now that I think about it ?
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L746[09:34:00] <Vexatos> Negi, no, but it's on the EnderIO issues list
L747[09:34:10] <Negi> Oh ok
L748[09:34:11] <Vexatos> And no, I won't do it as they have to be hardcoded into EIO code
L749[09:34:11] <Caitlyn> oooh that'd be niiice
L750[09:34:15] <Vexatos> there is no conduit API
L751[09:34:32] <Gopher> I'd forgotten you need a freaking /anvil/ to rename a robot >.<
L752[09:34:35] <Negi> That sucks :î
L753[09:34:58] <Negi> LEMME PUT DEM HITECH SYSTEMS ON ME BUNCH O METAL AN HAMMER
L754[09:35:20] <gamax92> Sangar: We need "HITECH" anvil for robot renaming
L755[09:35:41] <GunArm1> good to know it's possible to rename them
L756[09:36:05] <Vexatos> GunArm1, not everyone wants his robot named "Vexatos" :P
L757[09:36:14] <Gopher> I don't see what would be wrong with a robot.setName function XD
L758[09:36:20] <GunArm1> although I do kinda like that grab bag nature of their Christian names
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L760[09:36:44] <gamax92> Everyone wants their robot named asie
L761[09:36:48] <Gopher> or at least the ability to enter a name when assembling them rather than being stuck with Rando McSpoo
L762[09:37:05] <GunArm1> lol
L763[09:37:11] *** Cruor|Away is now known as Cruor
L764[09:37:15] <Vexatos> Gopher, noone wants that
L765[09:37:15] <Vexatos> really
L766[09:37:19] <Vexatos> the random names are fun
L767[09:37:29] <iceman11a> I been having an issue on setting a boolean value. Just how should I declare it and how show I use threw out my program
L768[09:37:32] <Gopher> right. fun.
L769[09:37:41] * Vexatos throws soft bricks at Cruor
L770[09:37:44] <Gopher> Guess I'm noone then, because I hate the random names.
L771[09:37:47] <GunArm1> it's like when you meet new people and they have stupid names
L772[09:37:56] <gamax92> Gopher: can gml move windows around?
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L774[09:38:02] <Cruor> ;_;
L775[09:38:08] <GunArm1> you can't (always) change their name
L776[09:38:10] <Vexatos> Cruor, why did you craft a power converter?
L777[09:38:12] <Coreymills26> when i load a computer the words are unreadable
L778[09:38:21] <gamax92> Coreymills26: screenshot?
L779[09:38:27] <Cruor> Vexatos: the ELN or OC?
L780[09:38:30] <Vexatos> You could just have plugged the thing into the case
L781[09:38:32] <Vexatos> The OC one
L782[09:38:39] <Cruor> .-. oh
L783[09:39:09] <Gopher> gamax92, sortof? I deliberately didn't do drag-and-drop type moving
L784[09:39:21] <gamax92> oh.
L785[09:39:21] <Cruor> i dont how this mod works .-.
L786[09:39:23] <Gopher> because the amount of redrawing involved is just ridiculous
L787[09:39:26] <Cruor> you should know that D:
L788[09:39:32] <Gopher> you can reposition a container and redraw and it's children will move too
L789[09:39:38] <Gopher> so you could hack it together if you wanted
L790[09:39:41] <GunArm1> Gopher: does gml need to be installed into the root /bin and /lib to work?
L791[09:39:44] <Gopher> but it is Not Recommended(tm)
L792[09:39:50] <gamax92> Gopher: can't you just selectively update parts of the screen?
L793[09:40:00] <GunArm1> i was trying to get it to work last night because I just really want to see what it looks like
L794[09:40:07] <Vexatos> GunArm1, either /lib or /usr/lib
L795[09:40:11] <Gopher> gunarm, that's the easiest way, but you can also just add whatever it's lib dir is to the lib path
L796[09:40:25] <Gopher> or whatsit, virtual link them there
L797[09:40:32] <Vexatos> I recommend putting it into /usr/lib
L798[09:40:37] <Gopher> or that
L799[09:40:57] <Cruor> Vexatos: then wtf is the power converter for
L800[09:41:07] <Coreymills26> its being uploaded gamax92
L801[09:41:16] <Gopher> isn't there a libpath? I'm not seeing an env variable now that I look actually
L802[09:41:22] <Coreymills26> http://imgur.com/1dDfE2f
L803[09:41:32] <Vexatos> Cruor, a) remote conversion (when the case is far away/you don't want all the sides to be using up ugly cabling)
L804[09:41:36] <Vexatos> b) it converts a little faster
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L806[09:41:42] <Vexatos> i.e. more power per tick
L807[09:41:54] <Gopher> been so long since I really did anything with oc I've forgotten everything >.<
L808[09:42:06] <Vexatos> Gopher, there is a lib path
L809[09:42:13] <Caitlyn> Coreymills26, the resolution for the screen is too big for your monitor and it's being scaled afaik
L810[09:42:13] <Vexatos> and /lib and /usr/lib are in there by default
L811[09:42:14] <GunArm1> so I was having a lot of trouble with that, I was trying for /usr/lib, but the errortrapping for the download path in your gitrepo.lua script wouldn't accept any paths however I could think to format them. so I let it put them in /tmp/ and manually copied the files to /usr/lib and still got some (different) errors
L812[09:42:25] <Gopher> vex, just not a default one? so the libpath env is implicitly appended to /lib:/usr/lib?
L813[09:42:33] <GunArm1> i didn't think to note what they were
L814[09:42:35] <Caitlyn> either use a lower tier screen, increase your resolution, or try setting MC's scaling to normal instead of auto
L815[09:42:41] <Gopher> "set" doesn't show a libpath env variable is why I ask
L816[09:43:00] <Coreymills26> Caitlyn: tier3 graphics card with a 3by3 tier3 screen
L817[09:43:04] <GunArm1> also, yeah I didn't see a libpath env var
L818[09:43:10] <Gopher> but it shows path, which defaults to "/bin:/usr/bin:/home/bin"
L819[09:43:11] <Sangar> it's defined in the package lib http://git.io/bCdi
L820[09:43:26] <Vexatos> ^
L821[09:43:36] <Gopher> ah, so not an env variable
L822[09:43:58] <Caitlyn> well the size of the screen doesn't change the size of the UI when you right click it, the tier of the screen does. Like I said, either use a lower tier screen, increase your (physical monitor) resolution, or try switching MC's GUI scaling to Normal instead of Auto
L823[09:44:00] <Gopher> guess it needs to operate at a higher level than shell? since libs are really lua packages,w hich shell couldn't load without already existing
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L825[09:45:08] <Sangar> you'd have to ask Wobbo if there's any particular reason (like that, load order) for it not being one; i'm guessing the main one is that it isn't for "vanilla" Lua's package lib, either
L826[09:45:10] <Caitlyn> I'm not 100% sure MC's GUI scaling impacts OC's screens but I hate auto scaling anyway :P
L827[09:45:54] <gamax92> it does.
L828[09:45:54] <Caitlyn> but yeah.. T3 screens are large.
L829[09:45:55] <Gopher> ah well. In any case, looks like you could append to package.path if you wanted, though with it not being an env variable it somehow feels dirty to do it
L830[09:45:58] <gamax92> if your missing pixels, the tier is too large for the screen
L831[09:46:05] <gamax92> if you get extra pixels, drop down the gui scale
L832[09:46:17] <Gopher> so yah, guess /usr/lib/ makes the most sense of the available otpions
L833[09:46:36] <Gopher> or you can do what compviewer does, just include them in the program directory, since the path includes ./
L834[09:46:41] <Negi> Caitlyn: LARGE*
L835[09:46:45] <GunArm1> Coreymills26: your opencomputers monitor is better than your actual IRL monitor
L836[09:46:57] <Gopher> though the size of the libs is not insignificant
L837[09:47:03] <Gopher> so I don't really recommend that, either
L838[09:47:45] <Gopher> is there some program people use that uses these package.cfg files to download & install packages?
L839[09:47:54] <Gopher> er, programs.cfg
L840[09:48:07] <gamax92> oppm
L841[09:48:09] <GunArm1> isn't that what oppm uess
L842[09:48:23] <Vexatos> programs.yml is for the website
L843[09:48:27] <Gopher> yah
L844[09:48:28] <Vexatos> programs.cfg is for website and OPPM
L845[09:48:37] <GunArm1> Gopher: why u noppm
L846[09:48:40] <Vexatos> if it finds a .cfg, the .yml is getting ignored
L847[09:48:51] <Gopher> oppm is yers, vexatos?
L848[09:48:51] <Vexatos> Gopher, https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Vexatos-Programs/blob/master/op-manager/example.cfg
L849[09:49:00] <Vexatos> That's how programs.cfg is being made
L850[09:49:01] <Vexatos> It is
L851[09:49:04] <Vexatos> Gopher, read this
L852[09:49:05] <Vexatos> ~w oppm
L853[09:49:06] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:program:oppm
L854[09:49:10] <Vexatos> that explains how to do stuff
L855[09:49:51] <gamax92> Nobody thanks me for making ocdoc :X
L856[09:50:04] <Vexatos> gamax92, you made that?
L857[09:50:14] <Vexatos> I thought Snagar and I did :P
L858[09:50:27] <gamax92> the bot .-.
L859[09:50:29] <gamax92> ~raw PRIVMSG #oc :I made this.
L860[09:50:29] <ocdoc> I made this.
L861[09:50:32] <Vexatos> Ah, that
L862[09:50:35] <Vexatos> Yes, you made that
L863[09:50:38] <Vexatos> and you made it well
L864[09:50:52] * Sangar praises the gamax92
L865[09:51:47] <Gopher> heh, GML is the dependency listed in the example programs.cfg ^_^
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L867[09:52:14] <gamax92> #p
L868[09:52:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.602 Seconds passed.
L869[09:52:18] <gamax92> oh god.
L870[09:52:33] <Vexatos> Gopher, it is :P
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L873[09:54:04] <gamax92> #p
L874[09:54:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.235 Seconds passed.
L875[09:54:13] <Negi> gamax92, add ~credits lmao :')
L876[09:54:28] <gamax92> k
L877[09:54:35] <GunArm1> Vexatos: btw, I was able to get oppm working with just the one lua file. although I didn't try all the options
L878[09:56:16] <Caitlyn> gamax92, yes
L879[09:56:29] <gamax92> Caitlyn: my internet is dying
L880[09:56:40] <Caitlyn> yay..
L881[09:57:39] <Caitlyn> gamax92, now, do me a favor and add the word that was missing from your question, do I *what* bouncers.. :P
L882[09:58:08] <Lizzy> break?
L883[09:58:10] <Lizzy> :P
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L885[09:58:27] <Caitlyn> why yes, I've been known to break a bouncer or two
L886[09:58:36] *** Kilobyte is now known as Kiloff
L887[09:59:04] <gamax92> ~reload
L888[09:59:04] <ocdoc> Everything's cool
L889[09:59:07] <Vexatos> I am so glad I made http://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial:program:oppm
L890[09:59:08] <gamax92> ~cred
L891[09:59:08] <ocdoc> Gamax92: He wrote the bot. Sangar, Vexatos: They made the website.
L892[09:59:28] <gamax92> i don't like it.
L893[10:00:16] <gamax92> ~reload
L894[10:00:17] <ocdoc> Everything's cool
L895[10:00:46] <GunArm1> is there a way to delete the top commit on github (website) without cloning the repo into local gitbash?
L896[10:01:02] <gamax92> #p
L897[10:01:06] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4.004 Seconds passed.
L898[10:01:18] <gamax92> it got worse T_T
L899[10:03:47] <gamax92> #p
L900[10:03:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.236 Seconds passed.
L901[10:03:52] <gamax92> lies
L902[10:04:39] <Gopher> this look about right? http://pastebin.com/g3b4B3Fz
L903[10:04:39] <GunArm1> Vexatos: ok, but the computronics driver can't be *all* the api (right?), because DriverCapacitorBank.java doesn't list things like getting the current and max power
L904[10:05:10] <Vexatos> GunArm1, it is
L905[10:05:14] <Vexatos> see the other drivers
L906[10:05:23] <Vexatos> they wrap superclasses in EnderIO
L907[10:05:35] <Vexatos> meaning that DriverPowerStorage wraps any EIO block storing power
L908[10:05:37] <Negi> #p
L909[10:05:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.302 Seconds passed.
L910[10:05:44] <GunArm1> ahh
L911[10:05:47] <Vexatos> and those functions inside are exposed to any EIO block storing power
L912[10:05:56] <Vexatos> OC merges multiple drivers into one
L913[10:06:05] <Vexatos> if it can find more than one
L914[10:06:07] <gamax92> Vexatos: :o
L915[10:06:13] <GunArm1> gotcha
L916[10:06:14] <gamax92> thats cool :o
L917[10:07:14] <GunArm1> awesome thanks
L918[10:07:35] <Vexatos> GunArm1, that's the reason Computronics literally wraps any EIO block that's doing anything with so few classes
L919[10:08:29] <GunArm1> yes, very well designed
L920[10:10:30] <Gopher> hmm. website need time to refresh, or is my programs.cfg malformed? it's still showing the old programs.yaml
L921[10:10:45] <GunArm1> are the adapter blocks themselves a technical necessity (as opposed to cables hooking directly to machines) or are they there for game balance reasons?
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L924[10:12:35] <Sangar> little bit of both. the technical part being that they need to watch for neighbor changes and track state for their neighbors, which is quite a bit of overhead.
L925[10:12:45] <GunArm1> i see
L926[10:15:15] <Vexatos> Gopher,
L927[10:15:17] <Vexatos> .openprg
L928[10:15:27] <^v> Vexatos, http://68.36.225.16/paste/v2I7H.txt
L929[10:15:47] <Vexatos> there you are
L930[10:15:55] <Gopher> so just needed a rebuild? ty
L931[10:16:22] <Gopher> it rebuild at some interval?
L932[10:16:25] <Vexatos> btw, if you don't have dependencies, you can remove the key
L933[10:16:33] <Gopher> k, left it empty just to be safe
L934[10:16:37] <Vexatos> same for things like "hidden"
L935[10:16:42] <Vexatos> if that's not true, remove it
L936[10:16:49] <Caitlyn> Gopher, no, rebuilds are manual only afaik
L937[10:17:14] <Vexatos> Also, Gopher, " note = "see gmlExamples package for sample programs, and the repo wiki on github for documentation""
L938[10:17:20] <Vexatos> inside gml-examples
L939[10:17:25] <Vexatos> Doesn't really make sense
L940[10:17:57] <Gopher> eh? :checks
L941[10:18:04] <Gopher> oh, herp
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L944[10:18:56] <Gopher> fixed
L945[10:19:15] <Vexatos> k
L946[10:19:19] <v^> ermygerd
L947[10:19:24] <v^> the cutest catsnake ever http://i.imgur.com/ABNozyz.webm
L948[10:19:32] <Vexatos> Gopher, now fix your indentation xD
L949[10:19:38] <Gopher> eh?
L950[10:19:55] <Gopher> the indentation looked fine in textpad
L951[10:20:13] <Vexatos> Should I fix it? :P
L952[10:20:31] <Gopher> ... the hell? No, I see it, lemme see why it's inconsistent
L953[10:20:45] <Vexatos> It's lua, so 2 spaces :P
L954[10:20:48] * Inari guesses some sort fo tabspaces thingy
L955[10:20:58] <Inari> Vexatos: eh, doesnt really matter as long as its consistent
L956[10:21:55] <Vexatos> Also; Gopher:
L957[10:21:56] <Vexatos> dependencies = {
L958[10:21:56] <Vexatos> ["gml"] = "/lib"--This package is installed into the specified subfolder
L959[10:21:56] <Vexatos> },
L960[10:21:57] <Gopher> yah, textpad doesn't think of .cfg files as lua
L961[10:22:07] <Vexatos> That has to be = "/"
L962[10:22:10] <Vexatos> It uses relative paths
L963[10:22:15] <Negi> Inari : That's like camelCase, it's a bit of a thing to make everything consistent.
L964[10:22:18] <Vexatos> so it'd install the dependency in /usr/lib/lib
L965[10:22:33] <Gopher> er
L966[10:22:42] <Vexatos> just do "/"
L967[10:22:51] <Vexatos> for the dependency path
L968[10:22:53] <Gopher> dependences automatically go to lib? 'cause programs installs to /bin
L969[10:23:02] <Vexatos> No
L970[10:23:08] <Vexatos> But you made it go into /lib
L971[10:23:09] <Gopher> I was not clear on why dependencies haev a path at all
L972[10:23:12] <Vexatos> ["gml"] = "/lib"
L973[10:23:12] <Inari> Negi: eh indentation is easily enough made consistent by your respective text editor
L974[10:23:20] <Gopher> I wuold think it would use the path from the package
L975[10:23:22] <Vexatos> Gopher, in case you want it to be anywhere specifix
L976[10:23:25] <Vexatos> specific*
L977[10:23:38] <Negi> Inari: I meant
L978[10:23:45] <Negi> With everyone's else work.
L979[10:23:46] <Gopher> so if every program isn't perfectly consistent about it then the same dependency library will get installed in multiple places?
L980[10:23:50] <Vexatos> It does use the package path if you do "/"
L981[10:23:55] <Vexatos> No
L982[10:24:06] <Vexatos> As OPPM stores if a package has already been installed
L983[10:24:13] <Vexatos> and where those files are
L984[10:24:16] <Inari> Negi: yeah, but its easily made consistnet by your text editro/viewer/whatever
L985[10:24:25] <Vexatos> The only reason why "oppm update" and "oppm uninstall" work
L986[10:24:44] <gamax92> ;~; I had people pestering me yesterday about "Would you like to go to bible study?"
L987[10:25:07] <Vexatos> gamax92, read the revelation, best comedy ever
L988[10:25:10] <gamax92> and they keep pestering me and pestering me about it, even though i keep saying no i don't care and go away
L989[10:25:24] <gamax92> So instead i gave them fake info
L990[10:25:50] <Vexatos> Also, the only piece of actual hallucinations approved by catholic church
L991[10:26:06] <gamax92> For all they know I am Robert, I live up north in my city, fake number (i wouldn't actually put it incase its a real number, sorry for whoever it is)
L992[10:26:19] <Inari> Negi: meaning, there isnt too big a point to it, actaully you could leave everythign completely unindented and only indent it for viewing
L993[10:26:29] <Gopher> Vexatos, re: the bad spacing, https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Vexatos-Programs/blob/master/op-manager/example.cfg
L994[10:26:36] <Gopher> that's where the bad spacing came from, I copied and pased it :P
L995[10:26:37] <Vexatos> Gopher, I know
L996[10:26:42] <Vexatos> already fixed it on the wiki
L997[10:26:46] <Vexatos> so CHECK THE WIKI
L998[10:26:53] <Inari> actually...
L999[10:27:02] <Inari> why do we save stuff an in indented format
L1000[10:27:18] <Gopher> just sayin', mind yer own yard if yer gonna complain about mine XD but indenting is fixed on my end, mr. ocd XD
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L1002[10:27:47] <Gopher> and comment removed, and everything else I could find wrong fixed
L1003[10:28:09] <Vexatos> Looks fine to me now
L1004[10:28:12] <Vexatos> .openprg
L1005[10:28:22] <^v> Vexatos, http://68.36.225.16/paste/XYkFl.txt
L1006[10:29:17] <Vexatos> Gopher, now you can get rid of the .yaml file
L1007[10:29:22] <Vexatos> not used anymore :)
L1008[10:30:06] <Gopher> done
L1009[10:30:27] <Gopher> or not
L1010[10:30:36] <Vexatos> \o\
L1011[10:30:39] <Negi> OR NOT
L1012[10:30:44] <Vexatos> Now GML is on the webz
L1013[10:30:55] <Vexatos> Only thing left is Kenny to come back
L1014[10:31:02] <Gopher> ah, there, yah, gone
L1015[10:31:06] <Vexatos> So I can throw the CompViewer onto OPPM
L1016[10:31:16] * GunArm1 thanks Gopher
L1017[10:31:22] <Gopher> para que?
L1018[10:31:37] <GunArm1> oppm integration
L1019[10:31:57] <GunArm1> i actually spent a long frustrating time last night trying to get the install/paths etc to work
L1020[10:32:11] <Caitlyn> NS_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY: o_O
L1021[10:32:12] <Caitlyn> wut
L1022[10:32:30] <Gopher> oh, heh
L1023[10:32:50] <Gopher> I should test that they actually work now lol
L1024[10:33:04] <GunArm1> a lot of the problem was I was having trouble getting mv commands to work in OpenOS
L1025[10:33:25] <GunArm1> I would do mv * /path and it would move like one file and the other file would just be gone
L1026[10:33:34] <GunArm1> i cloned the repo like 5 times just getting the files back
L1027[10:33:41] <GunArm1> finally wised up and started using cp
L1028[10:33:49] <GunArm1> dont' know what was going on with mv
L1029[10:34:00] <gamax92> #BlameSangar
L1030[10:34:02] <Vexatos> GunArm1, made a local repo?
L1031[10:34:04] <GunArm1> something wierd about the wildcard with it
L1032[10:34:06] <gamax92> I really hope that pings him.
L1033[10:34:28] <GunArm1> Vexatos: no not really *cloned* the repo in git terms
L1034[10:34:40] <GunArm1> just used the gitrepo script to wget the github files
L1035[10:34:49] <gamax92> GitLove
L1036[10:34:54] <Vexatos> I mean, you read that OPPM wiki page, right?
L1037[10:35:08] <Vexatos> The part about locally making stuff oppm-available
L1038[10:35:46] <GunArm1> i have not read it yet. I just got oppm set up last night before I went to bed
L1039[10:36:38] <Vexatos> The wiki page explains how to set up an OPPM repo
L1040[10:36:40] <Gopher> just did oppm install gml-examples, worked like a charm
L1041[10:36:50] <Vexatos> i.e. how to register your repo with OPPM
L1042[10:36:57] <Vexatos> locally or globally
L1043[10:36:59] <Vexatos> Gopher, nice
L1044[10:37:17] <Vexatos> +12 style points for actually using the dependency feature
L1045[10:37:22] <GunArm1> Vexatos: oh, I was just talking about downloading the gml libs/examples from gophers repo
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L1047[10:37:49] <GunArm1> but i'm working on a project i'll probably want in oppm eventually so I'll certainly read it
L1048[10:37:56] <GunArm1> and hit you up when i have something
L1049[10:38:21] <Vexatos> :P
L1050[10:38:25] <Vexatos> Ah that you mean
L1051[10:38:26] <Gopher> kenny's been gone almost as long as I was, hasn't he?
L1052[10:38:30] <Vexatos> well, now it is "oppm install gml"
L1053[10:39:29] <Vexatos> Btw, Gopher, "hidden" makes a package not appear in "oppm list" or the website, but it still can be gotten using "oppm install" or dependencies of other packages
L1054[10:39:42] <Gopher> yah, I got that from the comments
L1055[10:39:55] <GunArm1> security by obscurity!
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L1057[10:40:54] <Vexatos> k
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L1060[10:43:13] <Gopher> I'd almost forgotten about gss.. the gml stylesheets, based on css
L1061[10:44:17] <Caitlyn> Gopher, yeah Kenny has been gone for ages
L1062[10:44:33] <Caitlyn> he AFKed one day... and never came back
L1063[10:44:46] <Caitlyn> well he left here.. but he idled my channel
L1064[10:45:09] <gamax92> lack of control
L1065[10:45:18] <Gopher> eh?
L1066[10:45:24] <gamax92> I though Kenny got banned from here?
L1067[10:45:41] <Caitlyn> gamax92, I don't remember and I'd have to find old logs :p
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L1070[10:45:55] <Gopher> he was prone to bouts of irrational behavior at times, from what I remember, lol
L1071[10:46:04] <Caitlyn> yeeaaaah
L1072[10:46:07] <Gopher> he was a frustrating person to help
L1073[10:46:16] <Gopher> because even when asking for help he was sure he knew everything, lol
L1074[10:46:30] <GunArm1> Kenny went out for a pack of cigarettes
L1075[10:46:30] <Gopher> arguing with me about how gml worked while asking me how to get something to work XD
L1076[10:46:30] <Caitlyn> Yep..
L1077[10:47:07] <Caitlyn> I helped him get LC_Control working he'd ask me how a method worked I'd explain it and he'd argue..
L1078[10:47:15] <Gopher> yah, lol
L1079[10:47:30] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬ dude I WROTE that method, I know what it does
L1080[10:47:44] <Gopher> is there a compelling reason we can't have a blanket license on the OpenPrograms group that allows taking over abandoned projects? lol
L1081[10:47:47] <Temia> Sheesh
L1082[10:48:00] <Lizzy> gamax92: i never banned him
L1083[10:48:02] <Gopher> I know it can't really apply retroactively
L1084[10:48:19] <GunArm1> so if you really want to get a hold of him to ask about CompViewer, can't you message him through github or something?
L1085[10:48:20] <Gopher> but I, for one, wouldn't have any objection
L1086[10:48:37] <gamax92> I remember him trying to tell me through magical methods that do not exist in the floppy controller of how to get more data
L1087[10:48:53] <Gopher> heh
L1088[10:49:17] <Caitlyn> Is that the time when he was proven wrong he switched to OH I was talking about real floppies?
L1089[10:49:24] <Cruor> Vexatos: well, thats one less block in the computer room, thanks :p
L1090[10:49:26] <Caitlyn> or was that some other time? :P
L1091[10:49:31] <Gopher> lol
L1092[10:49:51] <Caitlyn> Kenny was a good guy.. most of the time
L1093[10:50:12] <Gopher> yah
L1094[10:50:18] <Lizzy> his occasional mood swings were bad though :/
L1095[10:50:21] <Gopher> just very frustrating at other times
L1096[10:50:23] <Caitlyn> Yes
L1097[10:50:24] <Caitlyn> and Yes
L1098[10:50:53] <Vexatos> Gopher, the default license is none, i.e. "It would be All Rights Reserved if anyone cared, but these are Lua scripts for a computer mod of a game"
L1099[10:51:07] <Gopher> yah, I know
L1100[10:51:27] *** Techokami|Off is now known as Techokami
L1101[10:51:33] <gamax92> Techokami!
L1102[10:51:42] <Techokami> ahouurgh
L1103[10:52:25] <Vexatos> Techo/kamo
L1104[10:52:26] <Negi> Thanks heavens, OC's modinfo is perf filled.
L1105[10:52:27] <Vexatos> kami*
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L1107[10:52:29] <Vexatos> >_>
L1108[10:52:55] <gamax92> such typing.
L1109[10:54:31] <Caitlyn> I wish sessionserv listed current connections and not just max
L1110[10:55:00] <Vexatos> oppm list connections
L1111[10:55:13] <Caitlyn> o_O
L1112[10:55:42] <Cruor> does Odd get square pixels with OC?
L1113[10:55:46] <GunArm1> odd that the reactor computer port doesn't have a getMaxEnergyStored() method
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L1115[10:56:16] <GunArm1> even if it's a constant, if it were me I'd add that method for people to use incase it changes later
L1116[10:56:41] <Caitlyn> #BlameE.Beef
L1117[10:56:45] <GunArm1> ya
L1118[11:01:11] <gamax92> I need sleep
L1119[11:02:03] <Lizzy> home time \o.
L1120[11:02:58] <Caitlyn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ARuSEl4wUs&feature=youtu.be
L1121[11:02:59] -Kibibyte- [Caitlyn] Kerbal Space Program - Dragonslayer 818 | by applebased | 1m8s | 1d0h ago | 121 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
L1122[11:03:00] <Caitlyn> \o/
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L1126[11:28:27] <Negi> Hey anyone, is anyone keeping track of used ports or anything ?
L1127[11:29:58] <samis> Negi, such an app would be easy to make
L1128[11:30:13] <samis> wire up a web form and table with a database perhaps
L1129[11:31:01] <vifino> samis: pls, just answer the question
L1130[11:31:05] <vifino> Negi: No.
L1131[11:31:22] <samis> vifino, I believe the answer was implied
L1132[11:31:26] <samis> Stary2001, ^ agree?
L1133[11:31:42] <Magik6k> vifino, Why not, It's just keeping track of usage, not reserving
L1134[11:31:46] <Stary2001> heh
L1135[11:32:07] <vifino> Magik6k: Please, before you say random garbage, at least read the question ¬_¬
L1136[11:32:08] <Caitlyn> Magik6k, vifino wasn't saying no to the suggestion... just saying no that no one is tracking them currently
L1137[11:32:31] <samis> you could also have it output something similar to an /etc/services file
L1138[11:32:45] <Negi> vifino: Even though he's slightly OOS, he's right. :I
L1139[11:32:50] <Negi> OOT*
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L1142[11:33:25] <vifino> Negi: Still, he should just have answered your question instead of saying how simple such a thing is ¬_¬
L1143[11:34:09] <Inari> used ports for what
L1144[11:34:19] * vifino returns to writing compilers
L1145[11:34:30] <Caitlyn> Inari, servers?
L1146[11:35:36] <Negi> Protocols and such. Like, if you're afraid your protocol might interfere with another one, don't be a butt and use another port or something *shrugs*
L1147[11:36:02] <Inari> well 80 is used
L1148[11:36:03] <Inari> :3
L1149[11:36:32] <Negi> There are 65536 ports or 65535 ?
L1150[11:37:05] <Caitlyn> Inari, are there any httpds running in OC?
L1151[11:37:10] <Caitlyn> is not thne 80 isn't used :P
L1152[11:37:53] <samis> I'd imagine port 53 has been used multiple times over
L1153[11:37:56] <vifino> s/is(.*)/If not then 80 is most likely not used :P/
L1154[11:37:56] <Kibibyte> <Caitlyn> If not then 80 is most likely not used :P
L1155[11:38:56] <Inari> vifino: did you just retype the snetnec eot fix an obvious error?
L1156[11:39:35] <vifino> s/vifino:(.*)/vifino: Did you just retype the sentence to fix an obvious error?/
L1157[11:39:35] <Kibibyte> <Inari> vifino: Did you just retype the sentence to fix an obvious error?
L1158[11:39:38] <vifino> Yes :D
L1159[11:40:04] <vifino> I'm bored and stuck with writing either on my compiler or on my cgi app.
L1160[11:40:07] <vifino> :(
L1161[11:40:17] <vifino> Don't hate me for that. :(
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L1163[11:46:04] <Negi> I wonder if a service discovery protocol would be of any use.
L1164[11:47:55] <Inari> "so i heard you like protocols so i wrote a protocol fro you to find protocols"?
L1165[11:48:06] <samis> Negi, problem is it would either a) need to be implemented by every service or b) need to know how to discover every servicde
L1166[11:48:18] <Negi> Hm, yeah...True :I
L1167[11:49:04] <Negi> Ugh what hasn't been done in OC that could be useful ? ._.
L1168[11:50:14] <Vexatos> a drone-with-radar-and-beep-card alarm system?
L1169[11:50:16] <Oddstr13> do I get pixel level access with OC?
L1170[11:50:28] * vifino eats Vexatos
L1171[11:50:50] <Oddstr13> I wana draw graphs and stuff
L1172[11:50:54] <Vexatos> Oddstr13, you do
L1173[11:51:07] <Negi> Half-block characters, Oddstr13.
L1174[11:51:09] <Vexatos> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:gpu
L1175[11:51:41] <Inari> Oddstr13: "pixel-level" like editing single chars?
L1176[11:51:44] <Inari> or like drawing pixels
L1177[11:51:55] <Vexatos> <Oddstr13> I wana draw graphs and stuff
L1178[11:52:00] <Inari> you get both that is xD
L1179[11:52:20] <Oddstr13> Inari: as in individual pixles :P
L1180[11:52:28] <Inari> yeah
L1181[11:52:37] <Inari> for that you use the normal setting of chars
L1182[11:52:42] <Inari> but you use a unicode half block char
L1183[11:53:35] <Oddstr13> that gives me square pixles?
L1184[11:53:39] <Inari> ▀
L1185[11:53:40] <Inari> yup
L1186[11:53:49] <Inari> the top is fg color
L1187[11:53:51] <Inari> the bottom bg color
L1188[11:53:52] <Inari> :3
L1189[11:53:55] <Oddstr13> nice
L1190[11:54:12] <Inari> or they were square last i tried at least
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L1192[11:54:16] <Oddstr13> can write a interface for that, if none exists
L1193[11:54:23] <Inari> yeah, it isnt to ohard
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L1196[11:54:29] <Inari> max res should be 160x100 then
L1197[11:54:47] <Oddstr13> basicly just a pixel buffer :P
L1198[11:54:56] <Inari> sadly you can thave 4 colors
L1199[11:55:01] <Inari> else 320x100
L1200[11:55:03] <Inari> *-*
L1201[11:55:20] <Oddstr13> 160x100 is actually quite good
L1202[11:55:49] <Oddstr13> I have a 128x64 display lying on my table here
L1203[11:55:55] <Inari> gimme a way to print a char over another char please?
L1204[11:55:57] <Oddstr13> also a 48x84 one
L1205[11:57:07] <Inari> i still hope VRAM and shader stuff gets implemented
L1206[11:57:54] <Temia> Eeeee, other people are talking about pixel drawing :D
L1207[11:57:57] <Temia> This makes me happy.
L1208[11:58:28] <Temia> I do hope that we do at least get a basic backbuffer, granted.
L1209[11:59:13] <Temia> I could work with that '-'
L1210[12:00:53] <Oddstr13> Temia: what do you mean with backbuffer?
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L1212[12:01:27] <Temia> As in an offscreen buffer where we can do indirect draws before doing a bufferswap all at once... or just selective copies to the onscreen buffer.
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L1215[12:02:14] <Oddstr13> Temia: it's called RAM
L1216[12:02:16] <Oddstr13> :P
L1217[12:02:29] <Temia> No it isn't.
L1218[12:02:46] <Temia> You can't make direct rectangular copies of colorised data from an object in RAM.
L1219[12:03:04] <Oddstr13> I guess
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L1221[12:03:40] <Temia> THAT'S what a backbuffer would be useful for. Simultaneous drawing of complex graphical data.
L1222[12:04:15] <Temia> No tearing from a display redraw when you inevitably run out of drawing operations per tick or anything.
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L1225[12:15:04] <Negi> METAMETAMETA
L1226[12:17:14] <Gopher> temia, gml uses it's own gfxbuffer api, not sure it would be suitable for your particular needs, though
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L1228[12:18:10] <Gopher> well, gfxbuffer and canvas apis actually
L1229[12:18:19] <Gopher> canvas is the one that is compatible with the gpu api
L1230[12:19:23] <Gopher> canvas is a perfect back-buffer, you just create one, can specify another buffer as a parent or it defaults to parenting to the primary gpu
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L1232[12:22:05] <Gopher> hrm... looking at it, I'm wondering if I actually /used/ canvas in the final gml... I implemented it intending to, but I must not because it still has debug prints in it lol
L1233[12:22:28] <Gopher> well, just in the copy() method, so I may just not be using that method
L1234[12:26:45] <Gopher> hmm. Looks like I only ended up using gfxbuffer, which probably isn't what you would want. It just provides a way to buffer up draw commands and then merge them into a single draw, so that, ex, if you re-write a given screen character multiple times, only the last rewrite actually gets made as a hardware call.
L1235[12:27:36] <Gopher> it is compatible with gpu, though
L1236[12:27:59] <Gopher> at least, approximately
L1237[12:28:27] <Gopher> dunno if it supports all functions or jsut the ones I needed
L1238[12:32:53] <Gopher> anyway, https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Gopher-Programs/wiki/gfxBuffer-Library and https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Gopher-Programs/wiki/Canvas-Library
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L1240[12:33:28] <Gopher> I might move those to a separate package that gml just depends on at some point...
L1241[12:35:13] <gamax92> must create program for oc
L1242[12:35:30] <Gopher> then you should
L1243[12:35:32] <gamax92> yes
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L1245[12:40:41] <Negi> So long since I last Lua-ed.
L1246[12:41:13] <Gopher> I've been taking little steps towards adding the actual Gui Mark-up Language feature to GML, which it's named for but never actually got XD
L1247[12:41:37] <Gopher> but GML is pointless except as a means to allowing me to make a gui ide for developing gui programs
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L1251[12:45:33] <Gopher> ah, right, I needed a multi-line text input control to make the ide, too
L1252[12:46:30] <gamax92> I might use gml to make something :D
L1253[12:47:03] <Gopher> I would strongly encourage it for totally objective reasons :D <_<
L1254[12:47:18] <gamax92> what
L1255[12:47:33] <Gopher> All programs should use gml, and I'm totally unbiased
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L1258[12:55:13] <Temia> Gopher: Ooh :o This is very useful.
L1259[12:55:31] <Temia> Now I just need to find if anyone's implemented a pixel drawing library yet
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L1264[13:08:14] <Negi> ~w convention
L1265[13:08:14] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:piston
L1266[13:08:17] <Negi> Nope
L1267[13:09:30] <Negi> Wasn't there a page about coding habits we were supposed to use ?
L1268[13:11:46] <Lizzy> i think that was on the github based wiki
L1269[13:12:00] <Negi> Oh true
L1270[13:12:14] <Negi> Thanks
L1271[13:12:27] <Gopher> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/CodeConventions
L1272[13:16:05] <Gopher> I violate the last two pretty consistently, I think
L1273[13:16:13] <Gopher> oh, and I never sort my requires alphabetically :P
L1274[13:16:34] <gamax92> Negi: http://gamax92.pc-logix.com/list.txt
L1275[13:16:38] <gamax92> Everything ocdoc knows about.
L1276[13:17:23] <Inari> > comments increase ram the program sues
L1277[13:17:24] <Inari> Oo
L1278[13:17:36] <Caitlyn> don't sue my RAM!
L1279[13:17:53] <Gopher> I would hope that's only during loading when the program is compiled to bytecode
L1280[13:17:54] * Lizzy sue's Caitlyn's ram
L1281[13:18:15] <Caitlyn> pfft goog luck, my RAM is as broke as I am
L1282[13:18:56] <gamax92> you could run your programs through a code compressor i guess.
L1283[13:19:14] <gamax92> remove all comments, white space, and shorten locals
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L1286[13:23:45] <Cruor> ~w gpu api
L1287[13:23:45] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:gpu
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L1291[13:27:14] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: I copied the Lua Conventions to the wiki
L1292[13:27:23] <Lizzy> h
L1293[13:27:26] <Lizzy> ah*
L1294[13:28:36] <gamax92> boop
L1295[13:28:36] <ocdoc> DB Update Detected, reloading ..
L1296[13:28:36] <ocdoc> Everything's cool
L1297[13:28:46] <gamax92> tada
L1298[13:29:00] <DeanIsaKitty> ~w conventions
L1299[13:29:00] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/lua_conventions
L1300[13:29:03] <DeanIsaKitty> :3
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L1303[13:30:32] <gamax92> ~w issues
L1304[13:30:32] <ocdoc> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues
L1305[13:30:37] <gamax92> i forgot i put that in
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L1316[14:11:38] <Temia> moop.
L1317[14:11:42] <Vexatos> meep
L1318[14:11:46] <Temia> So I'm suddenly wondering.
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L1320[14:12:07] <Temia> does cron.d have something set up to refresh its state after the system resumes from an S1/S3 event?
L1321[14:12:34] <Temia> I'm mostly pondering this because my panel clock tends to lag behind until it is due for a normal update after suspending my laptop .-.
L1322[14:13:46] <Temia> which made me wonder about other system time correction methods that may or should be in place.
L1323[14:14:12] <Caitlyn> ntpd ftw?
L1324[14:14:12] <Temia> Then again xfce4's panels kind of have weak signal support in general. The battery widget POLLS. Fucking POLLS.
L1325[14:14:48] <Temia> THERE IS AN ACPI INTERFACE TO GET EVENTS WHEN THE SYSTEM'S (UN)PLUGGED OR IF THE % CHANGES AND YOU POLL!?
L1326[14:14:51] * Temia breathe
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L1328[14:16:12] * gamax92 licks Temia
L1329[14:16:35] <Temia> D:
L1330[14:16:39] * Temia headbutts!
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L1333[14:18:15] <samis> yes, ntpd ftw
L1334[14:18:30] <samis> only had to give it a kick once
L1335[14:18:35] <samis> in my entire install
L1336[14:19:10] <Caitlyn> <3 ntpd
L1337[14:19:33] <Caitlyn> previously I had a cron running ntpupdate every 5 minutes and clock drift SUUUUCKED
L1338[14:19:48] <Caitlyn> moved to ntpd and within 10 minutes my clock was perfect and hasn't twitched since
L1339[14:22:12] <Temia> Yeah, the clock itself works fine, it's just that the panel fails to update in a timely manner
L1340[14:22:22] <Temia> Which is dumb :(
L1341[14:22:49] <Temia> Am I going to have to fix this myself? Am I going to have to be the one to drive some level of event-driving to a desktop environment that's existed for a while now?
L1342[14:23:19] <Temia> ...I can words
L1343[14:23:25] * Temia looks at her coffee cup. =.=
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L1346[14:26:07] <samis> Temia, file a bug for xfce?
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L1348[14:26:42] <Temia> Eh, I might, but only if it looks like they have a good turnover time. If not, I'll just do it myself and a pull request instead.
L1349[14:26:45] <Temia> *and file
L1350[14:27:16] <Negi> Oh so this explains that
L1351[14:27:34] <Negi> When I had xfce on Arch, it was quick to fill up my memory and begin swappin' hard.
L1352[14:27:42] <Negi> I had to kill upowerd D:
L1353[14:27:45] <Temia> Hmm. Haven't had that issue myself.
L1354[14:27:50] <Caitlyn> me either :/
L1355[14:28:00] <Temia> Must've been fixed since then.
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L1357[14:29:50] <Negi> Duh there is already two DNS systems out there but I'll have to write my own anyway :I
L1358[14:30:10] <samis> Negi, if you want I have a half-implemented one you can finish
L1359[14:30:29] <Negi> samis: Depends.
L1360[14:30:34] <samis> Negi, on?
L1361[14:30:46] <Negi> The way you code *shrugs*
L1362[14:31:02] <samis> I also took the time to write up protocol docs *before* the actual code
L1363[14:31:24] <Negi> Thanks god, I'm not alone to do that.
L1364[14:32:01] <Negi> I actually want to implement my own because I want to use rc.lua, and to overwrite all of them methods for sending and broadcasting c:
L1365[14:32:12] <samis> oh, and I seperated it into an OOP core and a frontend which handled networking
L1366[14:32:47] <Negi> (And also both the systems you can find on the forums don't implement CNames.)
L1367[14:33:03] <Negi> samis, mind if I take a peek at your protocol docs, then ?
L1368[14:33:18] <samis> let me find the piratepad
L1369[14:34:25] <samis> Negi, http://piratepad.net/AbKoU5oo36
L1370[14:34:52] <samis> likely has some minor flaws, but eh
L1371[14:35:46] <Temia> Am I uncouth for calling the Raspberry Pi 2 the Raspberry Tau?
L1372[14:36:01] <samis> no
L1373[14:38:01] <Negi> samis: It's actually good, though I'd say a few things could be done in more efficient ways :I
L1374[14:38:18] <samis> Negi, it's a piratepad, edit all you like :p
L1375[14:38:40] <samis> feedback is a good thing
L1376[14:39:40] <samis> who's Leek?
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L1378[14:40:40] <Negi> Me
L1379[14:40:47] <samis> ah
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L1386[15:08:25] <gamax92> woah
L1387[15:09:21] * gamax92 pokes samis
L1388[15:09:47] <samis> gamax92, hi
L1389[15:09:50] * samis pokes gamax92
L1390[15:09:52] <gamax92> y u dns
L1391[15:10:02] <samis> gamax92, why I not
L1392[15:12:37] <samis> Negi, opinion of code?
L1393[15:14:48] <Negi> samis: It's a bit confusing at first.
L1394[15:15:14] <samis> meh, I literally wrote it in a few days
L1395[15:15:28] <samis> with an attitude of 'get this shit done fast, but don't make WTFCode'
L1396[15:16:30] <Negi> True that it took me 40 days to write PhiBase. :î
L1397[15:17:40] <Inari> for anyone who hasnt seen it yet: https://twitter.com/Marc_IRL/status/562999344627200000
L1398[15:17:50] <Negi> Hey samis, you didn't test your code, did you ?
L1399[15:18:19] <samis> Negi, I tested it while I was developing it
L1400[15:18:37] <samis> meaning that while it 'works' syntax-wise, it probably doesn't work semantic-wise
L1401[15:18:57] <Negi> cuz sendError would crash.
L1402[15:19:11] <samis> damm
L1403[15:19:35] <Negi> Yeah, no implied casting in Lua.
L1404[15:27:38] <Negi> Also, even though I do like OOP, I don't know if it's really appropriate here.
L1405[15:27:57] <samis> eh
L1406[15:28:54] <Gopher> oop tends to be overdone in oc and cc both, in my experience
L1407[15:29:11] <Gopher> and particularly in oc, there are very real costs involved in memory overhead
L1408[15:29:19] <Negi> ie, you could easily turn it in a background task, and simplify the code a lot. That's just a thought, tho.
L1409[15:29:22] <samis> Never considered that.
L1410[15:31:18] <Inari> in my experience memory in OC is some wild mysterious creature :P
L1411[15:31:35] <Inari> successive calls to getFreeMemory seem to return arbitrary values
L1412[15:31:46] <Inari> or freeMemory i think it was
L1413[15:31:58] <Gopher> that is primarily due to the wonder of garbage collection, I think, heh
L1414[15:32:07] <Inari> nothing to GC though
L1415[15:32:18] <Gopher> ha
L1416[15:32:25] <Inari> unless it creates some javasdie garbage when drawing/printing
L1417[15:32:28] <Gopher> so many things to gc
L1418[15:32:41] <Inari> and even then jumping between 100 and a few thousand in emmory free is a bit... bizarre
L1419[15:32:52] <Gopher> loads and loads and loads of hashtables
L1420[15:33:01] <Inari> created by what?
L1421[15:33:10] <Gopher> created by everything, lol
L1422[15:33:19] <Negi> The magic of friendship, Inari.
L1423[15:33:31] <Inari> Gopher: so java-side code?
L1424[15:34:22] * samis never actually measured memory usage of his half-finished code
L1425[15:34:59] <Gopher> yes and no. I mean, remember, every time you run a program, it's compiling it in memory, and every time you call a function, it's creating a context for that function
L1426[15:35:09] <Inari> im not running any programs though
L1427[15:35:12] <Inari> its a eeprom
L1428[15:35:44] <Inari> calling functiosn - maybe
L1429[15:35:53] <Inari> still seems odd that it woudl suddenly return a few thousand free after 2 free
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L1431[15:36:15] <Gopher> it's a lazy garbage collector, lol
L1432[15:36:39] <Gopher> I dunno all the mechanics of lua's in particular, I think it tries to do some kind of recycling too? but not positive
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L1434[15:37:08] <Inari> doesnt sound like it should be a language wiht memory restrictions XD
L1435[15:37:15] <Gopher> it really shouldn't, lol
L1436[15:37:17] * Inari wants allocatable memory
L1437[15:37:39] <Gopher> though it's not as bad as it could be, really.
L1438[15:38:10] <Inari> well it is if you're trying to make a program that doesnt run out of memory xD
L1439[15:38:11] <Negi> Lua can run on a NDS.
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L1441[15:38:24] <Negi> It has a garbage collector :î
L1442[15:38:52] <Gopher> lua cna handle very low-memory environments, but there's still a reason garbage collection didn't become common until computers got fast and ram got cheap, heh
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L1444[15:39:11] <Inari> no GC is always better :3
L1445[15:39:18] <Gopher> also, embedded lua systems usually use custom garbage collection routines that tend to be a bit less lazy and more aggressive
L1446[15:39:25] <Gopher> like lua for gba
L1447[15:39:28] <Gopher> (which was a thing)
L1448[15:40:05] <Gopher> the version of lua we're using, and it's GC algos, were written to run on modern desktop computers, lol
L1449[15:40:10] <vifino> Negi: Wee, I finished my nodejs express-like middleware lua cgi app thing \o/
L1450[15:40:11] <Inari> i'D rather just use something else for embedded..
L1451[15:40:16] <Gopher> so they don't cope well with suddenly having only 64k of memory XD
L1452[15:40:21] <Negi> Lua exists on Wii, NDS, PS2, PSP, ATTiny...
L1453[15:40:23] <Negi> Etc.
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L1456[15:40:30] <Negi> vifino: Yay
L1457[15:40:38] <vifino> Negi: :D
L1458[15:40:47] <Negi> Lua also exists on some calculators (and I'm NOT talking about the NSpire)
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L1461[15:41:11] <Negi> And you can disable the garbage collecting as of Lua 5.2
L1462[15:41:15] <Inari> http://pastebin.com/xx8R9FhK <- that was my testing thingy, also tried with strings
L1463[15:41:39] <Inari> Negi: how do you free and allocate then :o
L1464[15:42:11] <samis> Negi, exactly how much simpler would the code be
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L1466[15:48:55] <Negi> Inari: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-collectgarbage
L1467[15:49:09] <Negi> samis: Waddya mean ? By not using OOP ? Hm
L1468[15:49:24] <Negi> I don't know exactly. I guess that everything could fit in one file.
L1469[15:49:47] <Inari> ah that kind of disable
L1470[15:49:53] <Inari> i thoguht completely removing it
L1471[15:50:04] <samis> Negi, I seperated them in order to make the core reusable for example, in an inetd-like superserver as well as just a standalone frontend
L1472[15:50:07] <Negi> rc.lua more like "Doc where ?"
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L1474[15:54:09] <Negi> Also samis, why not using the modem's ability to transmit multiple objects at the same time without any other cost ?
L1475[15:54:21] <Negi> anymore*
L1476[15:54:40] <Negi> That would reduce a bit the processing involved, by having the data already split at reception.
L1477[15:56:24] <samis> huh? that's a thing?
L1478[15:56:38] <Negi> ~w component:modem
L1479[15:56:39] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
L1480[15:56:56] <samis> must've overlooked it at the time
L1481[15:56:57] <Negi> Most definitely
L1482[15:57:19] <Gopher> welp, 2/3 of the work is done to convert valid .gml format files into executable lua programs.
L1483[15:58:19] <Gopher> Because I'm strange, it's the first third (the basic loading of gml files) and the last (outputting lua from a properly formatted and validated source tree) that's done
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L1485[15:58:48] <Gopher> with the middle part, turning the raw loaded gml into the properly validated tree structure, that's not done
L1486[16:01:00] <Gopher> and when that part is finished.. I will have something that is only useful to people who want to write programs directly in gml instead of lua. I can't imagine why they would want to do this.
L1487[16:01:23] <Gopher> well, also useful to me, when and if I ever write a visual ide for making gml programs
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L1489[16:04:19] <TabletCube> Negi: back
L1490[16:04:21] <Negi> ~w io
L1491[16:04:21] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-io
L1492[16:04:33] <Negi> TabletCube ?
L1493[16:04:46] <TabletCube> You saw me quit didn't you
L1494[16:04:55] <Negi> I want to precise that I have no fast memory.
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L1498[16:05:58] <Negi> Hey, who wrote rc.lua, actually ?
L1499[16:06:57] <vifino> Negi's memory is SDRAM.
L1500[16:07:04] <Negi> Raise your hand if not being able to search terms less than 3 characters is frustrating !
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L1502[16:11:01] <TabletCube> Negi: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commits/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/bin/rc.lua
L1503[16:11:33] <Gopher> originally, rmellema on github.
L1504[16:11:40] <Lizzy> aka Wobbo
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L1507[16:13:51] <Negi> WUB WUB
L1508[16:14:06] <Negi> I'll have to ask xe some stuff about it :I
L1509[16:14:44] <Lizzy> .wobbo
L1510[16:14:44] <^v> Lizzy, WobboooooooooWooooooooobbooooooooWobboooooooooWooooooobboooooooooWoooooobbooooooWoooooooooobbooooooooooWoooobboooooWooooooooobbooooooooo
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L1516[16:29:30] <Negi> I'm an awful person.
L1517[16:29:50] <Negi> The server I'm writing while following samis's documentation is called Hermes.
L1518[16:32:08] <GunArm1> so, i'm picking this lua stuff up and its not too bad, but this guy is insane http://hisham.hm/2011/05/04/luas-and-or-as-a-ternary-operator/
L1519[16:32:59] <GunArm1> its one of his "favorite idioms"? anyone who thinks x = a and b or c is more readable than x = a ? b : c belongs in a mental institution
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L1522[16:33:54] * GunArm1 actually doesn't want to start a flame war
L1523[16:35:32] <PotatoTrumpet> :/
L1524[16:35:39] <PotatoTrumpet> FLAME WAR FLAME WAR
L1525[16:35:51] * PotatoTrumpet throws fire at GunArm
L1526[16:35:54] <GunArm1> i'm sure it just seems this way because it's new to me
L1527[16:36:12] <GunArm1> but a ? in a ternary operator reads as asking the boolean a question
L1528[16:36:54] <GunArm1> the "a and b or c" thing is truely an idiom in the literal definition of a phrase that wouldn't make sense at all if it weren't for people conventionally recognizing the pattern
L1529[16:37:13] <GunArm1> although that is not true since the computer is interpretting it logically
L1530[16:37:53] <TabletCube> Negi: why hermes?
L1531[16:41:10] <Negi> TabletCube: "God of boundaries, travel, communication, trade, language, and writing."
L1532[16:41:13] <Negi> Sandrafk:
L1533[16:41:19] <Negi> Woops sorry.
L1534[16:41:34] <TabletCube> Ah. Make sure to give credit :)
L1535[16:41:53] <TabletCube> Ah. Make sure to give credit :)
L1536[16:42:00] <TabletCube> fail
L1537[16:42:27] <TabletCube> I meant to say 'and use a good VCS if possible'
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L1539[16:43:35] <Negi> Give credit what for ?...I'm not even sure I'll get this published, I'll show it to samis first. And I'm still writing the fiiiiirst thing.
L1540[16:43:43] <Gopher> the worst is when Very Clever People know that ?: returns an lvalue and do things like "(a>b?a:b)=stuff"
L1541[16:43:46] <ShadowKatStudios> o/
L1542[16:43:52] <Lizzy> o\
L1543[16:44:02] * TabletCube is samis
L1544[16:44:24] <TabletCube> ./ns info me
L1545[16:44:56] <Lizzy> TabletCube, no you're CompanionCube
L1546[16:45:16] <TabletCube> Lizzy: and CompanionCube == samis
L1547[16:45:33] <TabletCube> so transitively TabletCube == samis
L1548[16:51:12] <TabletCube> Negi: ^
L1549[16:53:20] <Inari> the cube is a lie
L1550[16:53:38] <Negi> I have no logic.
L1551[16:53:39] <ShadowKatStudios> the lie is a cube
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L1553[16:54:01] <gamax92> Temia: moo
L1554[16:54:02] <nwmqpa> Not the cube is a lie ?
L1555[16:54:05] <Inari> the lie is a lie
L1556[16:54:25] <Negi> TabletCube: Actually I won't put credit because I suck with these kind of thingies so you'll see the files and deal with these however you wish to :I
L1557[16:54:31] <Negi> You'll add it eventually.
L1558[16:54:45] <Negi> Don't even have to publish it *shrugs*
L1559[16:54:49] <Inari> just add: "All credit goes to our benelovent overlord Negi"
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L1561[16:56:13] <nwmqpa> If OC have a compatibility with all the ComputerCraft stuff , did the peripheral proxy works ?
L1562[16:56:37] <Negi> OBTW I'm rewriting the commands, TabletCube.
L1563[16:57:22] <TabletCube> Negi: fair 'nuff
L1564[16:57:29] <TabletCube> Example?
L1565[16:59:03] <Temia> Moo.
L1566[16:59:23] <Negi> QUERY becomes "DNS 1.0, query, <domain>" where each comma denotes a new "piece" of data in modem.send.
L1567[16:59:39] <Negi> DNS 1.0 always appear first, then comes the command and its arguments.
L1568[17:00:36] <TabletCube> so you basically condense it? Neat.
L1569[17:00:39] <Negi> I also added the "DNS 1.0, fetch" broadcast, which allows the client to get a DNS server in cache if it doesn't have knowledge of any.
L1570[17:01:15] <Negi> And "DNS 1.0, handshake, start" which is sent by the client to first engage the communication.
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L1572[17:01:32] <TabletCube> I imagine things like special record types would bump the version?
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L1574[17:02:10] <Negi> Yep.
L1575[17:02:54] <Negi> Though the version won't be bumped, for exemple, when I'll add Cerberus authentification.
L1576[17:03:13] <Negi> (Yes I'm a greek mythology nerd)
L1577[17:03:31] <TabletCube> I'll basically say 'Code is by Negi, Protocol inspired and based on the original documentation by samis'
L1578[17:03:39] <Negi> Heh
L1579[17:04:14] <Negi> I'm writing it for RC+Event btw, but I think that it's easily adaptable.
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L1581[17:04:24] <Negi> Anyway, I'm going to bed. It's already really late.
L1582[17:04:25] <Negi> Night.
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L1593[17:20:47] <kGielo> Hello, anyone can help me with adding a custom cpu to opencomputers? :c
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L1595[17:21:27] <TabletCube> Sangar: ^
L1596[17:22:57] <kGielo> I've written already an ItemClass and DriverItemClass, but I don't know what I must put in architecture class :/
L1597[17:23:03] <Inari> a gtx 970?
L1598[17:27:33] <kGielo> Anyone ? :(
L1599[17:30:43] <Inari> this is IRC
L1600[17:31:21] <TabletCube> kGielo: try coming around at a different time
L1601[17:31:29] <Inari> or just idle for some hours
L1602[17:31:41] <TabletCube> maybe Sangar or someone else will be around
L1603[17:32:13] <kGielo> I'm from Poland. I can't just idle for some hours :(
L1604[17:32:17] <kGielo> Becouse onions.
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L1607[17:33:28] <Inari> well irc is kinda of the essence of idling
L1608[17:34:02] <kGielo> hahah!
L1609[17:34:21] <kGielo> maybe, do you know, when Sangar will be on? or... idk
L1610[17:37:40] <Gopher> afraid not
L1611[17:38:21] <kGielo> :(
L1612[17:38:25] <kGielo> Goodnight everyone.
L1613[17:39:53] <Inari> night
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L1616[17:43:47] * PotatoTrumpet has a GTX 970
L1617[17:43:51] * PotatoTrumpet is proud
L1618[17:44:57] <Caitlyn> well I was going to get a 960.. but now I have to get a 980
L1619[17:45:05] * TabletCube pours water over PotatoTrumpet's GPU
L1620[17:45:14] <PotatoTrumpet> It's ok
L1621[17:45:27] <PotatoTrumpet> running at about room temp
L1622[17:45:41] <TabletCube> Won't it fry it
L1623[17:45:45] <PotatoTrumpet> ?
L1624[17:45:56] * PotatoTrumpet shanks TabletCube 1945 times
L1625[17:46:08] <TabletCube> Why#~
L1626[17:46:33] * TabletCube offers PotatoTrumpet an old Nvidia FX 5200
L1627[17:46:37] <PotatoTrumpet> no
L1628[17:46:40] <PotatoTrumpet> don't need that crap
L1629[17:46:43] <PotatoTrumpet> I have a 970
L1630[17:46:48] <PotatoTrumpet> and 3.5GB of VRAM
L1631[17:46:55] <TabletCube> PotatoTrumpet: which is now dead from water
L1632[17:47:16] * PotatoTrumpet puts TabletCube inside of a SSD, then defrag's the SSD 200 times
L1633[17:47:29] * PotatoTrumpet then wipes the SSD with 22222222 passes
L1634[17:47:35] * TabletCube reboots from backup
L1635[17:48:09] * PotatoTrumpet wipes everything, then removes all power from the computer
L1636[17:48:17] <PotatoTrumpet> BOOYAH
L1637[17:48:35] <TabletCube> PotatoTrumpet: my backup is in a physically different location
L1638[17:50:24] * SkySom burns down everything
L1639[17:50:39] * PotatoTrumpet punches Skye|ZZZ wuth a pillow
L1640[17:50:40] <PotatoTrumpet> damnit
L1641[17:50:42] <PotatoTrumpet> wrong person
L1642[17:50:47] <TabletCube> SkySom: define 'everything'
L1643[17:50:54] * PotatoTrumpet burns TabletCube
L1644[17:51:02] <SkySom> everything?
L1645[17:51:07] <SkySom> How does one define everything?
L1646[17:51:12] <SkySom> Everything can be anything?
L1647[17:51:14] * TabletCube can withstand heat up to 4000k
L1648[17:51:14] <SkySom> Or something
L1649[17:51:45] <TabletCube> SkySom: everything you can see? Everything on the planet? The entire universe?
L1650[17:51:53] <Gopher> yourself?
L1651[17:52:45] <Inari> everything i can see is quite a lot
L1652[17:54:21] <SkySom> Everything
L1653[17:54:45] * TabletCube reboots in Universe B
L1654[17:55:03] <PotatoTrumpet> Universe B Console: ERROR: KERNAL PANIC
L1655[17:55:17] <TabletCube> PotatoTrumpet: how
L1656[17:55:23] <Inari> TabletCube: why would you reboot in the universe from 4 iterations ago?
L1657[17:55:32] <TabletCube> it's a userspace process
L1658[17:56:29] <SkySom> ERROR: undefine
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L1663[18:20:08] <ds84182> gamax92: why are you not #V
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L1670[18:43:34] <vifino> ds84182: gamax92 hates us for not liking Epic.
L1671[18:44:11] <ds84182> .
L1672[18:44:14] <ds84182> but we like epic
L1673[18:44:14] <vifino> ikr
L1674[18:44:18] <vifino> wot
L1675[18:44:33] <vifino> wtf, who are you? Noone likes epicnesstwo
L1676[18:44:51] * vifino slaps some sense into ds84182
L1677[18:44:51] * EnderBot2 laughs
L1678[18:44:55] <ds84182> there are worse people we could be dealing with.
L1679[18:45:10] <vifino> Yes, but still.
L1680[18:45:14] <vifino> I don't like him.
L1681[18:45:19] <vifino> And he hates me for that.
L1682[18:45:59] <ds84182> then it's a hate circle.
L1683[18:46:03] <ds84182> nothing gets resolved.
L1684[18:46:15] <vifino> k
L1685[18:47:06] <vifino> gamax92 said i would be his best friend, but he still ignores and hates me like every 5 minutes q_q
L1686[18:49:10] <Gopher> he hates you on a predictable schedule?
L1687[18:49:57] <vifino> I have no idea.
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L1695[19:15:43] <shortybsd> what's up people
L1696[19:15:52] <Gopher> nada
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L1701[19:38:48] <ping> no.
L1702[19:39:28] <Gopher> so negative, ping
L1703[19:39:40] <ping> Gopher, nevermind why i said no
L1704[19:39:44] <dsWhatever> you don't want me here
L1705[19:39:45] <dsWhatever> k
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L1707[19:40:05] <Gopher> :shrug: didn't seem important
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L1709[19:41:30] <gamax92> Gopher: remember that mod with the keypad?
L1710[19:41:40] <Gopher> what, biolocks?
L1711[19:41:45] <gamax92> yup
L1712[19:41:54] <Gopher> yes, I remember it. Why do you ask?
L1713[19:42:06] <gamax92> Gopher: do you remember when I had to patch it?
L1714[19:42:11] <Gopher> yes
L1715[19:42:15] <ping> gamax92, why is everyone fighting
L1716[19:42:16] <gamax92> :D
L1717[19:42:17] <ping> im scared
L1718[19:42:18] <Gopher> I appreciated that, by the way
L1719[19:42:31] <Gopher> who's fighting?
L1720[19:44:40] <ping> channel who should not be mentioned
L1721[19:45:19] <Gopher> that moment when you realise you did something the hard way and now you have to throw away hours of pointless hard work to replace it with something better...
L1722[19:46:22] <gamax92> lol yeah
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L1786[20:30:46] <Gopher> lol. "unrecoverable error: not enough memory"
L1787[20:31:12] <Gopher> not doing anything new, just the umpteenth pass in my code-test-debug cycle
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L1793[20:44:26] <Caitlyn> craaaaaaaap
L1794[20:44:46] <Caitlyn> IDK when but one of my HDDs reset.. it's the one that had my turbine control script
L1795[20:44:49] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬
L1796[20:45:42] <Caitlyn> I suppose this is the price I pay for using 1.6
L1797[20:46:11] <gamax92> rm do_not_rm_life_n_death_depends_on_this.lua
L1798[20:46:39] <Caitlyn> Well.. I logged into the world with the computer bluescreened reporting it had too many components connected
L1799[20:46:46] <Caitlyn> which is odd cause it booted up with no issue
L1800[20:49:38] <Caitlyn> Oh good... all of my component addresses reset too
L1801[20:50:24] <Shuudoushi> Stop breaking shit Caitlyn!
L1802[20:50:54] <Caitlyn> print("Chernobyl Monitor v0.1 running")
L1803[20:50:58] <Caitlyn> Which should explain a lot
L1804[20:51:19] <Shuudoushi> you're still rebuilding that map?
L1805[20:52:16] <Caitlyn> I've not worked on it in moooooonths
L1806[20:52:52] <Shuudoushi> Thought for sure it would be done by now lol
L1807[20:53:29] <Caitlyn> local turb1 = component.proxy(component.get("167")) local turb1 = component.proxy(component.get("167")) attempt to call field (a nil value) :/
L1808[20:53:45] <Caitlyn> err
L1809[20:53:57] <Caitlyn> that 2nd local = is supposed to be turb1.getRotorSpeed()
L1810[20:53:57] <Shuudoushi> you ever get around to changing the color of the smoke that comes out of the smoke stacks?
L1811[20:54:03] <Caitlyn> no
L1812[20:54:11] <Shuudoushi> lazy fucker lol
L1813[20:54:15] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬
L1814[20:54:22] <Caitlyn> I don't feel like learning how particals work
L1815[20:54:26] <Caitlyn> particles too
L1816[20:55:06] <Caitlyn> Oh right...
L1817[20:55:14] <Caitlyn> this turbine is 167d.... the screen is 167a
L1818[20:55:25] <Shuudoushi> it's like three fucking lines of code you have to change... the rest is jst copy/paste...
L1819[20:55:33] <Shuudoushi> s/jst/just
L1820[20:55:34] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> it's like three fucking lines of code you have to change... the rest is just copy/paste...
L1821[20:55:54] <Caitlyn> Shuudoushi, sure.. right go do it then
L1822[20:56:08] <Shuudoushi> I can't Java to save my life >.>
L1823[20:56:28] <Shuudoushi> change name, and particle color, done
L1824[20:56:30] <Caitlyn> k then stfu :D
L1825[20:56:33] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1826[20:56:39] <gamax92> ~w component.get
L1827[20:56:40] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:component
L1828[20:57:08] <gamax92> Caitlyn: component.get("167","turbine") ?
L1829[20:57:32] <Caitlyn> I just did 167d :P
L1830[20:57:36] <gamax92> oh
L1831[20:57:44] <gamax92> bye sleep
L1832[20:57:54] <Caitlyn> sleep is for the weak!
L1833[20:58:00] <gamax92> I am weak
L1834[20:58:30] <Caitlyn> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.6.4_2015-02-04_20-58-05.png
L1835[20:59:11] <Shuudoushi> BR is a MUCH better fit than IC2 reactors
L1836[20:59:35] <Shuudoushi> I think you need to hide the AE stuff though >.>
L1837[20:59:44] <Shuudoushi> plant it in the floor or something
L1838[20:59:50] <Caitlyn> Nah.
L1839[21:00:59] <Caitlyn> I mean FFS there is a Stargate like 10 meters away.. and behind me is the fuel processor..
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L1841[21:01:08] <gamax92> Caitlyn: What Am I Looking At
L1842[21:01:09] <Caitlyn> it's not like you're ever meant to get this close to it
L1843[21:01:41] <Caitlyn> gamax92, Chernobyl reactor 1 :p
L1844[21:01:48] <gamax92> I just see a bunch of tanks full of beer
L1845[21:01:56] <gamax92> and crap loads of cables
L1846[21:02:09] <Caitlyn> beer..? o_O
L1847[21:02:53] <gamax92> Caitlyn: yes, your reactor is powered by beer :P
L1848[21:03:03] <Caitlyn> Bioreactor ftw?
L1849[21:03:44] <gamax92> Caitlyn: LOL i just noticed MaCoPiX
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L1852[21:05:26] <Caitlyn> <3
L1853[21:05:35] <Caitlyn> yay
L1854[21:05:38] <Caitlyn> video driver crashed
L1855[21:05:40] <Caitlyn> meh
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L1864[21:41:49] <Gopher> \o/ some number of hours later, finally done!
L1865[21:42:29] <Gopher> I now have code that loads gml and is capable of outputting a working lua program
L1866[21:43:47] <Gopher> as I've gone along I've remembered more and more things I still have to add, both to the core gui libraries and to the gml parser and compiler I just wrote, before I can start properly working on the gml ide, tho
L1867[21:44:35] <gamax92> yay
L1868[21:45:23] <Gopher> gotta fix the scroll bar issues, including with list boxes... got to add a property inspector control (list box where each row is a label and a field), a value validation scheme for fields...
L1869[21:46:41] <Gopher> and a slew of other little things :sigh:
L1870[21:46:48] <Gopher> but! a big chunk of progress has been made!
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L1872[21:51:38] <Gopher> for the first time in ... 10 months?
L1873[21:52:29] <Alissa> i made progress once
L1874[21:52:33] <Alissa> then i took a long nap.
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L1885[23:01:18] <shortybsd> man this is driving me nuts why my robot can't place or break blocks.
L1886[23:01:27] <Gopher> does it have a tool?
L1887[23:01:33] <shortybsd> nothing at all comes up under perms when i toggle debug for permissionesex
L1888[23:01:37] <Gopher> and does it have power?
L1889[23:01:51] <Gopher> I guess if you can turn it on, it must have power
L1890[23:01:52] <shortybsd> power is disabled via config, tool isn't needed when placing blocks but yes it has a tool
L1891[23:01:56] <Gopher> and a tool isn't required to place blocks
L1892[23:02:21] <shortybsd> =robot.place() returns false
L1893[23:02:22] <Gopher> so I dunno! cauldron?
L1894[23:03:13] <shortybsd> yes cauldron version 1236.06.212
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L1896[23:08:08] <shortybsd> correct me if i am wrong but in the config it is defined fakePlayerName="[OpenComputers]" so if it was a perm problem I should see OpenComputers trying to break or place with pex's debug on yes?
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L1898[23:12:04] <shortybsd> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/636
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L1906[23:30:46] <ping> direwolf20 is in #space-engineers
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L1921[23:57:31] <ShadowKatStudios> o/
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