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L1[00:00:30] <Kodos> Okay, back to debugging this gate program
L2[00:00:37] <Kodos> At this point I'm pretty sure the mod is buggy
L3[00:01:27] <Shuudoushi> which one?
L4[00:01:41] <Kodos> SGCraft
L5[00:01:47] <Kodos> When I dial out with this program, my iris closes
L6[00:01:57] <Kodos> I cannot find it in the code anywhere as to why it would be
L7[00:02:11] <Kodos> So I'm thinking it's something borked in the mod's code
L8[00:02:12] <Shuudoushi> just send the command to reopen it after the dial is complete
L9[00:02:18] <Kodos> I am
L10[00:02:21] <Kodos> But it's still annoying
L11[00:02:25] <Shuudoushi> lol
L12[00:02:40] <Caitlyn> Totally not one of the reasons I forked it so long ago.. :P
L13[00:02:47] <Shuudoushi> XD
L14[00:02:48] <Caitlyn> it being buggy, not the iris issue :p
L15[00:03:10] <Caitlyn> there are times where I wish I had just started from scratch
L16[00:03:20] <Shuudoushi> and your still a fucker for killing me with the event horizon btw -_-
L17[00:03:36] <Caitlyn> No one tols you to stand directly in front of the gate.
L18[00:03:40] <Caitlyn> s/tols/told
L19[00:03:40] <Kibibyte> <Caitlyn> No one told you to stand directly in front of the gate.
L20[00:03:47] <Shuudoushi> yes you did!
L21[00:04:16] <Shuudoushi> you said, and I quote, "Stand right here, I want to show you something cool."
L22[00:04:24] <Caitlyn> lies.
L23[00:04:31] <Shuudoushi> uh huh
L24[00:04:36] <Shuudoushi> fucker lol
L25[00:05:24] <Shuudoushi> is there a way to bind the OS to an EEPROM?
L26[00:05:37] <Kodos> Not enough room I don't think
L27[00:05:51] <Shuudoushi> i.e. if the right EEPROM isn't found, the computer won't boot the drive
L28[00:05:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Depends how much of an OS you want.
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L30[00:06:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Compare a file to the eeprom.get?
L31[00:06:16] <Shuudoushi> yeah
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L33[00:06:22] <gudenau> Hello!
L34[00:06:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Morning o/
L35[00:06:34] <Shuudoushi> o/
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L37[00:07:40] <gudenau> In a custom Architecture how can I read the installed EEPROM?
L38[00:07:56] <Shuudoushi> I'm still not sure if it would be easier to write a custom BIOs, or just secure the init.lua to the EEPROM...
L39[00:08:09] <Shuudoushi> which arch?
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L41[00:08:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Shuudoushi: Are you going to keep a backup of the eeprom?
L42[00:08:20] <gudenau> The one I am making right now.
L43[00:08:37] <Shuudoushi> ah, not sure on that one gudenau
L44[00:08:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Have a UUID as a comment at the end, and if it doesn't match it doesn't work
L45[00:08:48] <Dashkal> gudenau: I believe it's just a comment you can look for
L46[00:08:52] <Dashkal> component*
L47[00:08:53] <Shuudoushi> I may do that
L48[00:08:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, can you access normal components? Because it should be a component
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L50[00:09:29] <Dashkal> In initialize or connected (whichever comes second) you have the components available and can just hunt it down
L51[00:09:42] <gudenau> Ah.
L52[00:10:43] <gudenau> So I need to hunt it down in onConnect? If I do not find it just crash the computer, correct?
L53[00:11:22] <Dashkal> or initialize. Whichever comes /second/ (the call order is different for starting a new computer in-game and loading a running one up on chunk load)
L54[00:11:23] <Shuudoushi> sounds about right
L55[00:11:45] <gudenau> On chunkload I would not use the EEPROM.
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L57[00:12:24] <Shuudoushi> I'm still not sure wtf I'm doing here... http://puu.sh/f4LdT/1be8e59e4b.txt
L58[00:12:24] <Dashkal> You'd load your current state of course. But this is a warning I was given when I started poking at an arch. You can't be sure you're connected in initialize
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L60[00:12:42] <gudenau> I would use the save/load methods.
L61[00:13:18] <Dashkal> You can't tell which state you're in until the method gets called.
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L64[00:18:51] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/9/2616204/the-condescending-ui
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L66[00:31:27] <Kodos> OC needs a way to get my UUID
L67[00:31:32] <gudenau> I have to ask, is it a sound effect or does my computer start making an odd buzzing when I use an opencomputer?
L68[00:31:42] <Kodos> It's a sound effect.
L69[00:31:45] <Kodos> Disk activity
L70[00:32:01] <ShadowKatStudios> fans and disk, one would assume
L71[00:32:11] <ShadowKatStudios> there's a fan on the back of the case, after all
L72[00:32:12] <gudenau> Ok, good. :-P
L73[00:32:25] <ShadowKatStudios> (I'm mildly jealous of the size of the fan)
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L75[00:32:38] <gudenau> 1m?
L76[00:35:05] <Dashkal> Kodos: Feel free to beat me to this idea: At some point I'm going to make a biometric sensor (intended to be used in a computer worn on the ring slot) that can cough up a unique id for a player. In practice? That'll be the UUID.
L77[00:35:28] <Dashkal> I'm nowhere near there though. OCλ sits ahead and that's a rabbit hold of a project.
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L79[00:35:42] <vifino> OC Lambda?
L80[00:35:44] <vifino> wat.
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L83[00:36:01] <gudenau> Opencomputer Half-Life?
L84[00:36:30] <vifino> ¬_¬ λ != Half-life
L85[00:36:46] <gudenau> I know that.
L86[00:37:11] <Dashkal> vifino: A λ-calculus derived language to run on OC. Haskell style syntax.
L87[00:37:21] <vifino> Q_Q
L88[00:37:31] <Dashkal> I wrote a prototype a couple weekends ago. Refining the design now.
L89[00:37:58] <Dashkal> (No code uploaded, the thing didn't even work, was just to explore the space)
L90[00:39:02] <vifino> Dashkal: We neeeeeed a lisp arch .-.
L91[00:39:34] <gudenau> Not making that one.
L92[00:39:47] <Dashkal> Heh, I don't know that family yet.
L93[00:39:53] <Dashkal> I do know Haskell.
L94[00:39:54] <gudenau> Going for something a little lower level.
L95[00:40:16] <Dashkal> It's interesting exploring the λ-calculus as the machine abstraction.
L96[00:40:46] <Dashkal> OCλ itself is a good deal saner to write. But it comes down to λ expressions at the bottom.
L97[00:40:49] <TabletCube> We neeed a better arch than Lua.
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L99[00:41:01] <gudenau> So, how big is the EEPROM?
L100[00:41:34] <Dashkal> I never got that far, but it needn't be large at all. Couple syscalls to get at the drives and run init.λ on one of them. (Probably won't be that evil :P)
L101[00:41:34] <ShadowKatStudios> 4KiB
L102[00:41:56] <gudenau> That is plenty for me.
L103[00:42:26] <Dashkal> I'll have to do some exploration and decide if 'compiling' should be a thing. Not sure if the processed program will be larger than the source or not.
L104[00:42:54] <gudenau> Well, you should be able to pack it smaller than what is typed.
L105[00:43:02] <Dashkal> Probably, yeah.
L106[00:43:14] <Dashkal> Also requires writing a binary coded for the core language.
L107[00:43:17] <Dashkal> codec*
L108[00:43:52] <Dashkal> Buuuut, done right and I gain things like much better use of the 4k for embedded systems.
L109[00:44:17] <gudenau> Ok, how do I *get* a component?
L110[00:44:52] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: I wonder why micr\\
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L112[00:45:19] <TabletCube> *micrOS feels more 'server-y' than OpenOS
L113[00:45:35] <ShadowKatStudios> The lack of any form of useful interface.
L114[00:45:58] <danphone> hi
L115[00:46:03] <TabletCube> and syscalls. Syscalls are neat.
L116[00:46:07] <danphone> just woke up
L117[00:46:19] <Dashkal> That's a very good question, gudenau. I'm not sure how you get your initial node. Digging
L118[00:47:03] <gudenau> machine.node()
L119[00:47:27] <ShadowKatStudios> "And Mint is ubuntu- except when it's not."
L120[00:47:31] <Dashkal> Oh yeah, you're handed it on construction aren't you...
L121[00:47:40] <Dashkal> Forgot it did the reflection hack
L122[00:47:48] <vifino> Dashkal: Make a custom arch which basically is able to run compiled code, in binary form. Then port gcc.
L123[00:47:49] * TabletCube idly wonders about implementing the micrOS syscall API on OpenOS
L124[00:48:00] <vifino> the rest will come from itself.
L125[00:48:04] <danphone> i hate to be sick T_T
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L127[00:48:09] <TabletCube> vifino: llvm too
L128[00:48:16] <Dashkal> So there you go, once you have a Machine, you can query. Note that this doesn't work until onConnected is called, which can happen /after/ initialize.
L129[00:48:20] <vifino> TabletCube: Yeah, and clang
L130[00:48:24] <ShadowKatStudios> TabletCube: I intend to impliment the core syscalls for the new kernel into an OpenOS-compatible module
L131[00:48:35] <vifino> Actually, screw gcc and just port clang
L132[00:48:36] <TabletCube> Eef
L133[00:49:06] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: what wouldn't be core?
L134[00:49:21] <ShadowKatStudios> TabletCube: Probably the networking stuffs
L135[00:49:28] <gudenau> Now to figure out how to read from the EEPROM...
L136[00:49:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Basically you'll get files, events and stdio
L137[00:49:39] <gudenau> Have to go, see you in a little.
L138[00:51:05] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: what's your intended network syscall API?
L139[00:51:18] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
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L141[00:54:22] <Dashkal> gudenau: For when you return. Iterate over machine.components() until you find an eeprom (the map is addr -> type, so iterate and match on type, returning the address). Once you have it, machine.invoke(addr, method, args)). That function should work as you'd expect given the component docs for eeprom.
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L146[01:08:57] <Shuudoushi> um... the fuck? http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/living/feat-students-canned-goods-stop-school-shooters/
L147[01:12:05] <Dashkal> I'd comment on the absurdity in the article, except I got fonted hard. The glyph render incorrectly, a bunch of the vertical lines are kinda missing...
L148[01:12:08] <Caitlyn> O_O
L149[01:12:35] <Dashkal> But yeah, what the fuck?
L150[01:12:43] <Dashkal> One of the more bizarre things that went past my radar.
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L152[01:13:17] <heatseeker0> New server crashing bug: removing an experience upgrade from an upgrade slot
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L154[01:17:33] <heatseeker0> Crash log: https://gist.github.com/heatseeker0/e4c337058ada356e7e1b
L155[01:17:38] <heatseeker0> I'll fill in a bug report later
L156[01:17:44] <heatseeker0> Along with the other 2 bugs I found earlier
L157[01:19:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Something is very wrong today- I'm actually cleaning up the computer room
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L167[02:04:31] <SandraNicole> I remember I attempted to write OALang once. it was an architecture which could do nothing but call component methods and cache things. For the real lowlevel people here.
L168[02:04:48] <SandraNicole> Completely low-level, yay.
L169[02:04:54] <SandraNicole> only access to hardware.
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L171[02:06:40] <Dashkal> SandraNicole: That's actually about all the very first version will be able to do. The whole λ-calc bit is really just pulling in old code I've already written before.
L172[02:06:45] <Dashkal> The new stuff is the type checker coming on top.
L173[02:07:03] <SandraNicole> mmm, yep.
L174[02:08:57] * Dashkal heads off in search of transit
L175[02:10:23] <SandraNicole> OALang was basically just: p.screen set 1 2 "Hello!"
L176[02:10:38] <SandraNicole> idk the method signature but that's how it worked.
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L178[02:11:55] <SandraNicole> and variables worked like: p.screen get 1 2 > hello
L179[02:12:08] <SandraNicole> p.screen set 1 2 $hello
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L189[02:34:25] <gamax92> I fear how my teacher is a programmer
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L191[02:34:51] <gamax92> He's like, if you're on a 16bit OS all of your datatypes are 16bit or lower
L192[02:35:19] <gamax92> ._. no ... Standard requires that certain datatypes are specific sizes.
L193[02:35:45] <gamax92> The double I get from a 32bit compiler is still a 64bit double precision number.
L194[02:36:21] <gamax92> No, just because your processor is a 64bit processor doesn't mean all of the instruction sizes are 64bit or that your machine can only address memory in 8 byte chunks.
L195[02:37:34] <gamax92> Then he claims that you can create variables with the same name, provided they are in different scopes (Java)
L196[02:37:46] <gamax92> I show him that the compiler complains, and he goes "Oh, that compiler must have a bug"
L197[02:38:21] <SandraNicole> You can't?
L198[02:38:37] <gamax92> no.
L199[02:38:58] <SandraNicole> I swear you can.
L200[02:39:18] <gamax92> I mean something like: int a = 5 { int a = 2 }
L201[02:39:25] <gamax92> oh, semicolons as well
L202[02:39:39] <SandraNicole> no, that's not different scopes.....
L203[02:39:54] <SandraNicole> that's not how it works.
L204[02:40:06] <gamax92> according to him that would work and compile.
L205[02:40:10] <ds84182> actually, those are different scopes
L206[02:40:26] <ds84182> and yes, every java compiler will bitch about that
L207[02:40:42] <ds84182> he may be thinking about local variables and class fields
L208[02:40:50] <gamax92> no he had example code
L209[02:40:52] <gamax92> of exactly that.
L210[02:40:54] <ds84182> oh dear god.
L211[02:41:04] <ds84182> I"M GOING TO FUCK TO SLEEP
L212[02:41:07] <gamax92> lol
L213[02:41:09] <ds84182> s/TO/THE
L214[02:41:09] <Kibibyte> <ds84182> I"M GOING THE FUCK TO SLEEP
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L217[02:45:34] <Pwootage> Evening
L218[02:45:49] <Pwootage> Shadowing variables is usually possible but frowned upon
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L261[03:34:35] <^v> Oh noes! moo split 3:
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L264[03:38:30] <Shuudoushi> how do you check if a file exist again, isn't it io.exist() or some shit like that?
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L267[03:38:57] <Temia> Moop. Thanks
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L269[03:39:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Shuudoushi: filesystem.exists IIRC
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L271[03:39:31] <Shuudoushi> and in the "()" you put the path right?
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L274[03:39:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Yep.
L275[03:39:43] <ShadowKatStudios> String.
L276[03:39:48] <Shuudoushi> kk
L277[03:39:50] <Shuudoushi> ty
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L286[03:40:51] <Shuudoushi> I still need to convert my user information files to tables or something...
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L355[07:08:38] <gamax92> Hmm, besides when it randomly hangs and freezes, this homebrew actually works decently.
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L357[07:10:39] <Stary2001> ha
L358[07:10:49] <Stary2001> gamax92: lizard squad are at it again
L359[07:10:56] <gamax92> ._. really ...
L360[07:11:02] <Stary2001> yep
L361[07:11:05] <Stary2001> ddosing fb
L362[07:11:10] <gamax92> hahaha
L363[07:11:36] <Stary2001> https://mobile.twitter.com/lizardmafia
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L365[07:11:46] <Stary2001> go read the last few
L366[07:12:52] <gamax92> Stary2001: "If only we didn't use twitter to communicate..."
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L368[07:12:53] <gamax92> lol
L369[07:12:59] <Stary2001> ikr
L370[07:13:02] <Stary2001> Ddosing fb is also known as "how to get rekt by all the three letter agencies"
L371[07:13:35] <gamax92> dat moment when "Facebook ... #offline" is lie
L372[07:13:42] <Stary2001> orly
L373[07:14:02] <Stary2001> Yup its back
L374[07:14:03] <Stary2001> Ahhahah
L375[07:14:33] <asie> SandraNicole: wake up
L376[07:14:35] <asie> err
L377[07:14:37] <asie> Sangar:
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L379[07:14:39] <asie> shgirt
L380[07:14:41] <asie> shit*
L381[07:14:41] <gamax92> lol
L382[07:14:50] <Vexatos> kyebroad
L383[07:14:59] <Vexatos> teh tpyos
L384[07:15:25] <gamax92> yuor tyops are bad
L385[07:16:10] <Stary2001> haha
L386[07:16:19] <Stary2001> gamax92: it was down a few mins ago
L387[07:16:31] <gamax92> hmm, seems they didn't do much then, if its already back up.
L388[07:16:41] <Stary2001> yeah
L389[07:18:10] <dangranos> вфьт
L390[07:18:11] <dangranos> damn
L391[07:18:38] <gamax92> you typing in the wrong layout again?
L392[07:19:30] <dangranos> no
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L395[07:26:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Done my good deed for the day.
L396[07:26:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Just taught my mum how to use FTP using filezilla
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L408[07:59:03] <Xilandro> I found the fucking problem
L409[07:59:11] <Xilandro> After two fucking days
L410[07:59:13] <Xilandro> I found the problem
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L412[08:00:17] <Kodos|Zzz> I'm going to bed, that's fucking retarded
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L436[09:19:10] <ShadowKatStudios> I have lost all faith in humanity- doing site reclamation, the user file (with unencrypted passwords!) was stored in a web-accessible directory
L437[09:21:01] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, what?
L438[09:22:32] <ShadowKatStudios> So the computer club my mum goes to lost access to it's site after a rogue member (who happened to be the admin) has a tantrum and left, leaving no passwords behing.
L439[09:22:36] <ShadowKatStudios> behind*
L440[09:23:08] <ShadowKatStudios> He stored the passwords in a place I could access using a web browser, as a csv file
L441[09:23:40] <CompanionCube> O.o
L442[09:24:08] <ShadowKatStudios> So I logged in as him, set my mum's account to admin and unadmin'd him and deleted his account
L443[09:24:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Then sent him an emal.
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L466[11:01:36] <heatseeker0> Submitted a proper report for the (severe) server crash bug found yesterday: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/859
L467[11:04:35] <heatseeker0> Second bug I found 2 days ago: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/860
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L476[11:30:25] <Ender> o/
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L478[11:34:15] <SandraNicole> Someone's really trying to hack my nickserv.
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L480[11:35:18] <Ender> ?
L481[11:36:33] <Sandra> someone's trying to log in as Sandra.
L482[11:36:38] <Ender> lol
L483[11:36:53] <Sandra> and they've tried it 4 times in the last 20 minutes.
L484[11:36:54] <Ender> if they persist you should go to the IRC ops about it
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L503[13:02:38] <Caitlyn> THe IRC Ops already know about it they get alerted to nickserv signin fails, I had an IRC OP query me once because my bouncer had the wrong nickserv pass and it was trying to auth me
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L505[13:03:04] <Ender> lol
L506[13:04:53] * Ender has had sugary sweets and now has higher energy levels
L507[13:06:32] * Caitlyn has just woke up and has 0 energy levels
L508[13:07:00] * Ender hands Caitlyn some sweets
L509[13:07:15] * Caitlyn melts them down and directly injects them
L510[13:07:25] <Ender> okay then
L511[13:07:28] <Caitlyn> lmao
L512[13:07:33] <Ender> i suppose that's one way of doing it
L513[13:07:43] <Caitlyn> ^_^
L514[13:07:57] <Caitlyn> I need new network cables...
L515[13:08:10] <Ender> what kind?
L516[13:08:12] <Caitlyn> all of the clips are broken off of mine and a damn cat drug the router/switch off my AP
L517[13:08:21] <Caitlyn> it's a mix of cat5/cat5e
L518[13:08:33] <Ender> ah
L519[13:09:01] <Caitlyn> but yeah I've got this short jumper that goes from the router to my switch, and the switch feeds like 80% of my network..
L520[13:09:21] <Caitlyn> and that short cable has the clips missing..
L521[13:09:41] <Caitlyn> as do most of the other cables lolol
L522[13:10:09] <Caitlyn> afk
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L524[13:12:20] <vifino> I got doom on my psp \o/
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L526[13:13:51] <dangranos> hi
L527[13:16:12] <Ender> damn, my main work pc doesn't support setting of VLANs without downloading some extra software
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L529[13:18:23] <Naegi> Halp
L530[13:18:30] <Ender> ?
L531[13:20:33] * dangranos halps Naegi
L532[13:21:10] <Naegi> French class, me dies
L533[13:24:17] <Naegi> dangranos: Provide me with a range weapon. It'll do.
L534[13:24:49] <dangranos> what about "Revolution Gun"?
L535[13:25:01] <Naegi> "Revolution Gun" ?
L536[13:25:06] <vifino> 'this thread has gotten me interested in LUA
L537[13:25:06] <vifino> i just read through a tutorial and it's very similar to C'
L538[13:25:19] <vifino> pls, its Lua and its not like C q_q
L539[13:25:42] <dangranos> just another crazy weapon created by #oc
L540[13:25:51] <Naegi> vifino : It happens. Someone told me Ti-Basic was similar to C.
L541[13:26:00] <vifino> :x
L542[13:26:14] <Naegi> It happens mostly when people know only one language <_>
L543[13:26:36] <dangranos> i am sure someone said that "asm is ver similar to C"
L544[13:26:43] * Naegi laughs.
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L547[13:31:04] * vifino pokes Naegi and wonders why not Naegi is not named Negi anymore
L548[13:31:19] <Naegi> vifino, webclient.
L549[13:31:25] <vifino> ._.
L550[13:31:34] <Naegi> When I use an IRC webclient I systematically connect with Naegi instead of Negi.
L551[13:32:07] <Naegi> Some of my servers don't allow for use of a nick if you don't connect to NS and I'm too lazy to identify.
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L553[13:35:34] <Naegi> And Naegi is kinda a cool character.
L554[13:38:29] * Naegi aggressively doesn't aggress vifino.
L555[13:38:45] * vifino makes big eyes
L556[13:39:26] * Naegi whines.
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L558[13:42:54] <Naegi> I want USB PD.
L559[13:42:57] <Naegi> Really.
L560[13:43:10] * Naegi whines over phone not charging.
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L566[14:11:52] <Naegi> Meowth, go !
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L569[14:22:07] <Lumien> Can a robot somehow get the metadata of a block in front of it?
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L574[14:39:35] <Naegi> ALHP
L575[14:39:58] <g> I think someone stood on Naegi's toe
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L605[15:58:14] <Sangar> o/
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L612[16:08:55] <Lumien> heatseeker0 how did the tests with the experience upgrade go?
L613[16:13:53] <heatseeker0> ah Lumien they went very well
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L616[16:14:21] <heatseeker0> discovered a nasty server crashing bug in the process which is already fixed very promptly by fnueke
L617[16:14:39] <heatseeker0> so the xp is stored in the upgrade itself, not in the robot
L618[16:15:14] <heatseeker0> you can add the upgrade in an upgrade slot, then remove it and place it in another robot, and that one will receive the xp
L619[16:16:45] <heatseeker0> also... leveling is quite slow using default settings. have a little bot running a levelling script since 24+ hrs now, gained only 10 levels
L620[16:16:53] <asie> Sangar!!!
L621[16:17:05] <Sangar> asie!
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L623[16:18:50] <Lumien> heat what about the effects?
L624[16:18:55] <dangranos> where am i? when am i? who am i?
L625[16:19:48] <heatseeker0> haven't done any comparisons yet
L626[16:20:00] <heatseeker0> what's obvious is the battery increase
L627[16:20:12] <heatseeker0> and it "feels" it's placing and breaking blocks faster
L628[16:20:40] <heatseeker0> but it may be just my imagination. will have to do some timings with identical bots placing and breaking a stack of identical things
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L630[16:21:42] <heatseeker0> but hey lumien, who cares about speed when i'm now the proud owner of a golden robot? (apparently they change color to gold at level 10)
L631[16:21:53] <heatseeker0> :)
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L633[16:25:00] <Sangar> you're not imagining things btw, they do get a bit faster in breaking blocks ;)
L634[16:25:21] <Sangar> they also get better at using their tools (i.e. the tools will last longer / take less damage)
L635[16:28:56] <heatseeker0> using unbreakable tooks for this levelling booth i made :)
L636[16:29:06] <heatseeker0> do they also move faster?
L637[16:31:51] <Sangar> mm, i can't remember
L638[16:32:24] <heatseeker0> Will have to test then. There's no config setting to tweak it.
L639[16:33:21] <heatseeker0> Do they gain more xp / action if they break say emerald ore than if breaking coal ore?
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L641[16:39:25] <Sangar> iirc if they actually break it (i.e. not silk touch) they get xp based on the block's xp worth, so yes
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L657[17:13:58] <Lumien> Sangar do they also get better at breaking stuff with no tool?
L658[17:15:21] <Sangar> i honestly can't remember. maybe :P
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L660[17:19:07] <Vexatos> In other news
L661[17:19:19] <Vexatos> I'm going to release Computronics 1.4 today or tomorrow
L662[17:20:01] <Vexatos> So many changed o.o
L663[17:20:03] <Sangar> \o/
L664[17:20:04] <Vexatos> changes*
L665[17:20:06] <Vexatos> https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/blob/DroneDockingStation/changelog.md
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L669[17:27:42] <heatseeker0> Vexatos, cool changes can't wait for it
L670[17:27:52] <heatseeker0> Any chance to get some sort of command executor upgrade?
L671[17:28:38] <heatseeker0> It would apply to robots and computers,and would run the commands as the owner of that computer. That would be super awesome
L672[17:28:50] <Vexatos> use command blocks
L673[17:29:19] <heatseeker0> Pfft. I don't like command blocks
L674[17:29:39] <Vexatos> Ask Sangar :P
L675[17:30:02] <heatseeker0> Was thinking to automate some admin tasks, and maybe write something to output logs and stuff onto a webpage and take commands from there to execute on the server
L676[17:30:41] <heatseeker0> Also, if you have the time, maybe integration with RFTools? They have an api
L677[17:30:44] <Sangar> debug card
L678[17:30:51] <Sangar> component.debug.runCommand
L679[17:30:57] <heatseeker0> Ooh
L680[17:31:03] <heatseeker0> Sweet, will look into that
L681[17:31:05] <Sangar> right click while in hand to bind to yourself, otherwise oc's fakeplayer is used
L682[17:31:34] <heatseeker0> Perfect. Just what I needed. Hopefully nobody will figure a way to get their hands on one of those :)
L683[17:31:43] <Vexatos> Also, Sangar, dan200 yesterday pointed out that anyone could use a command block placed in world by connecting an adapter block to it
L684[17:31:44] <heatseeker0> bound to me, i meant
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L686[17:32:20] <Vexatos> if you have runCommand, you might just want to remove that driver
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L689[17:33:32] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L690[17:34:01] <Sangar> Vexatos, oh, i thought that driver was diabled by default >_> but yeah, if the oc fake player can run commands, anyone can use it, since there's no way to track who caused the call.
L691[17:34:53] <Vexatos> you have runCommand, and having random debug cards laying around in non-creative cases (I assume onlc creative mode players can access those) really is your fault then
L692[17:34:58] <Sangar> oooh, the cc peripheral is blacklisted. i totally thought there was a setting for the oc cb driver, too :X welp, time to add one.
L693[17:40:59] <heatseeker0> Vexatos, Sangar what you make of this: https://gist.github.com/heatseeker0/8759c830f9abf776f9b5 ?
L694[17:41:49] <heatseeker0> Started getting these earlier, seem to be pointing to OC but I didn't change anything OC related in my modpack. I get them when Right clicking on any item in NEI
L695[17:42:20] <Sangar> oc latest?
L696[17:42:30] <heatseeker0> Yes, latest public.
L697[17:42:42] <heatseeker0> 1.4.5.28
L698[17:42:44] <Sangar> there as an issue with me using the ae api wrong, but that should've been fixed in build 30
L699[17:42:49] <Sangar> 1.4.6.30 is latest ;)
L700[17:42:51] <Vexatos> heatseeker0, I am not an OC dev
L701[17:42:53] <heatseeker0> oops
L702[17:43:54] <heatseeker0> might as well use the earlier dev build from today which fixed the 2 bugs I pointed out. should be fairly stable, yes?
L703[17:44:23] <Temia> It was not extremely rare ;A;
L704[17:44:32] * Temia gnaws on Vex
L705[17:44:36] <Sangar> heatseeker0, yes, quite stable
L706[17:44:41] <Lumien> Does a robot need to be turned on for the chunk loading upgrade to work?
L707[17:44:42] <Sangar> moreso than the release :P
L708[17:44:50] <Temia> I managed to get it just by forgetting to turn a redstone signal off!
L709[17:44:52] <Sangar> Lumien, yes
L710[17:44:55] <Vexatos> Temia, I changed "rare" to "extremely rare" specifically
L711[17:44:59] <heatseeker0> lol I hear you. will try it out in a second then report back
L712[17:45:19] <Temia> That could've happened to anyone! ;A;
L713[17:47:27] * Temia gnawgnawgnaw
L714[17:48:20] <Vexatos> That could have happened to anyone trying to break it
L715[17:48:42] <Vexatos> Temia, could you test the new version for me before I release it?
L716[17:48:47] <Vexatos> to see if it messes up anything
L717[17:48:51] <Temia> oh, sure.
L718[17:48:53] <heatseeker0> I could too ;)
L719[17:48:57] <Vexatos> Awesome
L720[17:49:08] <Vexatos> DISCLAIMER: back up your world
L721[17:49:10] <Vexatos> just saying
L722[17:49:24] <Temia> Also I only break things when trying to make sure they're fixed :<
L723[17:49:38] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/f6xMJ/ca546243ee.jar
L724[17:49:40] <heatseeker0> I'll test on the server directly. It has some backups... from a couple hours ago
L725[17:49:49] <Vexatos> Download that
L726[17:49:53] <heatseeker0> done
L727[17:49:55] <Vexatos> and this:
L728[17:50:03] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/f6xRt/171ff24dd0.jar
L729[17:50:08] <Vexatos> that's asielib+computronics
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L731[17:51:09] <Sangar> nice names
L732[17:51:25] <heatseeker0> Sangar, latest dev build fixes the NEI crash and the other stuff I reported \o/
L733[17:51:34] <Sangar> wonderful :)
L734[17:56:37] <Negi> Oh hell
L735[17:57:01] <Negi> Seeing pictures of Five Nights at Freddy's 3 was something I totally didn't need.
L736[17:57:20] <Daiyousei> another fnaf game?
L737[17:57:21] <Daiyousei> pls no
L738[17:57:27] <Vexatos> wait what
L739[17:57:28] <Vexatos> no
L740[17:57:34] <Daiyousei> the dev is literally shitting out fnaf games
L741[17:57:40] <heatseeker0> Vexatos, server and client started w/ no probs so there's that :)
L742[17:57:42] <Vexatos> Daiyousei, Sharknado 3 confirmed
L743[17:57:48] <Daiyousei> Vexatos: ogod
L744[17:57:52] <Vexatos> heatseeker0, crash log please
L745[17:57:56] <Vexatos> oh wait
L746[17:57:59] <Vexatos> it did NOT crash
L747[17:58:00] <heatseeker0> wut crash log? lol
L748[17:58:01] <Vexatos> >:>
L749[17:58:12] <Vexatos> "Reading comprehension fail" ~ Sangar 2014
L750[17:59:11] <Vexatos> Sangar: Custom IRC commands: "/readingfail"
L751[17:59:13] <heatseeker0> Vexatos, can't see any docking station nor the docking upgrade
L752[17:59:18] <heatseeker0> You sure it's the right build?
L753[17:59:25] <Vexatos> heatseeker0, do you have BuildCraft installed?
L754[17:59:29] <heatseeker0> Nop
L755[17:59:33] <Vexatos> >____________________________>
L756[17:59:39] <Vexatos> It's a docking station for _BC pipes_
L757[17:59:42] <Vexatos> read the change log
L758[18:00:02] <heatseeker0> Well... read that but thought I may trick it with conduits
L759[18:00:16] <heatseeker0> *sniffs*
L760[18:00:17] <Vexatos> the item won't be there if BC isn't
L761[18:00:28] <Sangar> rcf, new best acronym
L762[18:00:37] <Vexatos> sangar: added that as well
L763[18:00:43] <heatseeker0> So I noticed. And yep, rcf
L764[18:00:53] <heatseeker0> So... anything in particular you'd like me to test then?
L765[18:00:54] <Vexatos> "Reading comprehension fail" ~ Sangar 2014
L766[18:00:57] <Vexatos> Yep, it works
L767[18:01:01] <Temia> It'd be interesting if the docking station were expanded to other transport mods too :o
L768[18:01:08] <Vexatos> heatseeker0, anything on the change log
L769[18:01:08] <heatseeker0> Same here.
L770[18:01:13] <Vexatos> Temia, can't do that
L771[18:01:18] <Vexatos> BC's api is the most simple one
L772[18:01:29] <Vexatos> you don't have pluggables on EIO stations
L773[18:01:37] <Vexatos> EIO conduits*
L774[18:01:43] <Vexatos> s/don't/can't
L775[18:01:46] <Vexatos> bah
L776[18:01:46] <heatseeker0> But... but... BC pipes kinda suck, from many points of view
L777[18:01:51] <Vexatos> Tell asie
L778[18:01:55] <Vexatos> And I tell you they don't
L779[18:01:56] <Vexatos> :3
L780[18:02:08] <asie> What!?
L781[18:02:18] <asie> What's wrong with BC pipes!?
L782[18:02:20] <heatseeker0> Used them a lot in the past. Nowadays prefer conduits
L783[18:02:25] <asie> heatseeker0: "In the past".
L784[18:02:28] <asie> As if mods never update, change or improve.
L785[18:02:29] <Temia> They don't suck, they blow :V
L786[18:02:35] <Vexatos> Speaking of inferior systems
L787[18:02:49] <Vexatos> heatseeker0, past means pre-MC 1.7.10?
L788[18:02:53] <heatseeker0> Yes
L789[18:03:02] <Vexatos> Does it mean pre-BC5?
L790[18:03:09] <heatseeker0> Yes
L791[18:03:11] <heatseeker0> 1.6.4
L792[18:03:16] <Vexatos> then you don't know 90% of the mod
L793[18:03:21] <asie> Vexatos: No, he said 1.6.4
L794[18:03:23] <asie> Mor elike 20%
L795[18:03:26] <Vexatos> ah
L796[18:03:27] <asie> but we don't have energy loss anymore
L797[18:03:28] <Sangar> where's that moar pipes image when you need it
L798[18:03:29] <asie> we use RF
L799[18:03:31] <asie> the engines don't explode
L800[18:03:33] <asie> Sangar: one sec
L801[18:03:55] <heatseeker0> Okay. What about higher server cpu consumption than other transport methods, i.e. conduits?
L802[18:03:59] <Vexatos> https://twitter.com/asiekierka/status/558736944520503296
L803[18:04:00] <asie> heatseeker0: Worked on.
L804[18:04:05] <Vexatos> HAH
L805[18:04:06] <Sangar> \o/
L806[18:04:06] <asie> But it's also related to the fact we're not a grid.
L807[18:04:07] <Temia> meanwhile the last time I used BC was back in like 1.2.5 before the server owner disabled them due to a memory leak .-.
L808[18:04:09] <Vexatos> I WAS FASTER MWAHAHAHAHA
L809[18:04:13] <asie> Vexatos: yes
L810[18:04:18] <asie> Also
L811[18:04:23] <heatseeker0> That was my bigest concern when I left them out of the modpack and the server
L812[18:04:23] <asie> The fact BC pipes are a lot more powerful than EIO conduits.
L813[18:04:28] <Vexatos> Temia, does Computronics crash for you?
L814[18:04:35] <asie> Besides, BuildCraft 7 will improve this a lot
L815[18:04:45] <Temia> Haven't gotten out of bed yet
L816[18:04:47] <Vexatos> heatseeker0, they are a trillion times better than vanilla hoppers
L817[18:04:49] <heatseeker0> I know they're more flexible, my main concern was server performance.
L818[18:04:49] <Vexatos> so there's that
L819[18:04:56] <heatseeker0> Lol Vexatos
L820[18:05:40] <Temia> This bed is comfy :<
L821[18:05:54] <Vexatos> so, heatseeker0, anything not working so far?
L822[18:06:02] <Temia> Or at least was until I tossed and turned enough to kick off all the bedding except one blanket
L823[18:06:10] <Temia> but this blanket is warm :<
L824[18:06:11] <heatseeker0> Everything okay from what I can tell
L825[18:06:17] <asie> heatseeker0: Server performance.
L826[18:06:18] <gamax92> Temia: lolnp.
L827[18:06:21] <asie> You're sacrificing it for gameplay. Stop.
L828[18:06:23] <asie> That's stupid.
L829[18:06:24] <gamax92> we good
L830[18:06:28] <asie> EIO lags more than Hopper Ducts
L831[18:06:29] <Temia> moo?
L832[18:06:34] <asie> does that mean you should use Hopper Ducts instead?
L833[18:06:37] <Vexatos> heatseeker0, I am used to playing at 10 FPS and 12 TPS
L834[18:06:38] <gamax92> Temia: No?
L835[18:06:40] <Vexatos> and I'm fine
L836[18:06:44] <asie> Redstone lags more than RedLogic
L837[18:06:46] <Temia> I'm confused. o-o
L838[18:06:48] <asie> does that mean you should remove redstone?
L839[18:06:54] <heatseeker0> Vexatos, I'm used to playing at 120 fps and 20 tps on my servers ;)
L840[18:07:01] * Temia headtilts. moooo. .w.
L841[18:07:13] <asie> heatseeker0: Never got below 20 with BC>
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L843[18:07:23] <heatseeker0> asie, I get your point. Sorry, it was a tactless remark from me earlier. Didn't mean to offend in any way.
L844[18:07:28] <Vexatos> asie: imo drone stations aren't even the best part of the update as they're almost useless due to the BC bug. the best part is "Changes to MultiPeripheral system"
L845[18:07:30] <asie> heatseeker0: I'm not offended.
L846[18:07:31] <Vexatos> isn't it
L847[18:07:35] <asie> I'm just a travelling salesman.
L848[18:07:38] <asie> For a mod I now maintain.
L849[18:07:53] <Vexatos> MultiPeripheral masterrace \o/
L850[18:07:57] <asie> and I try to destroy misconceptions
L851[18:08:00] <Temia> What's your algorithm?
L852[18:08:09] <asie> Temia: MakeMorePipes
L853[18:08:13] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: I have a simple request I would like you to look into. Can we get support for in game music disk play back through the floppy drives or something, like what CC has, but less janky?
L854[18:08:22] <asie> Shuudoushi: Use Tape Drives
L855[18:08:25] <heatseeker0> as a side note, I never sacrifice server performance for gameplay features.
L856[18:08:41] <heatseeker0> if i can find something that works well on server, i add it. if not, it stays out.
L857[18:08:47] <Shuudoushi> asie: it would be nice to have ntive support
L858[18:08:53] <asie> well, BC works well with mods and other things
L859[18:08:54] <Shuudoushi> native*
L860[18:08:56] <asie> we strive to be the best
L861[18:09:01] <asie> also, builders
L862[18:09:04] <asie> fillers
L863[18:09:05] <Vexatos> Pff, Sangar throws all the features he doesn't want in OC at me
L864[18:09:06] <asie> robots
L865[18:09:06] <Temia> use jukeboxes? o3o
L866[18:09:14] <Vexatos> Isn't there a jukebox driver?
L867[18:09:16] <heatseeker0> sorry, builders and fillers wouldn't work anyway
L868[18:09:21] <asie> heatseeker0: why not
L869[18:09:22] <heatseeker0> because of area protections
L870[18:09:49] <Sangar> Vexatos, addendum: or is too lazy to implement himself, but other than that, true :P
L871[18:10:36] <Vexatos> heatseeker0, using CC or OC?
L872[18:10:39] <Sangar> Shuudoushi, you mean the records? the vanilla ones?
L873[18:10:43] <Shuudoushi> yes
L874[18:10:46] <heatseeker0> main reasons i prefer oc over cc: server friendliness, personalized fake users in form playername.robot so i modified my zone protection plugin to work with that and allow robots to function inside them, and a couple other features.
L875[18:10:49] * Temia flails confusedly at gamax. What were you even talking abooout >A<
L876[18:10:51] <heatseeker0> Vexatos, OC
L877[18:10:54] <Vexatos> Okay, then I need Temia to test the CC part
L878[18:10:59] <Vexatos> i.e. the multiP system
L879[18:11:04] <Vexatos> TEMIA GET UP NOW
L880[18:11:10] <Shuudoushi> not cudtom music from the clients computer lol
L881[18:11:13] <asie> heatseeker0: i might add personalized fake players
L882[18:11:16] <asie> in BuildCraft 8
L883[18:11:17] <Temia> mmmrp. do I have toooo
L884[18:11:18] <asie> 7*
L885[18:11:28] <Vexatos> Temia, you said you'd do it
L886[18:11:28] <Shuudoushi> s/cudtom/custom
L887[18:11:31] <heatseeker0> asie, I would be most interested in that
L888[18:11:33] <Vexatos> so DOOOOOOOO EEEEEEEET
L889[18:11:36] <Temia> I didn't say when
L890[18:11:46] <Sangar> Shuudoushi, make disc jockey robot? :P
L891[18:11:53] * Temia blanketcurlmoo.
L892[18:11:59] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> Temia, could you test the new version for me before I release it?
L893[18:12:03] <Vexatos> <Temia> oh, sure.
L894[18:12:06] <asie> heatseeker0: well, 7 is far off
L895[18:12:07] <Temia> ...
L896[18:12:10] <asie> as we're rewriting it for the NOVA API
L897[18:12:11] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> Could you do it NOW?
L898[18:12:14] <Temia> touché.
L899[18:12:18] <Vexatos> <Temia> okay.
L900[18:12:21] <Temia> ...
L901[18:12:25] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: if I knew how to Java or something I would have done it for y'all and just done a PR, but I SUCK at Java >.>
L902[18:12:27] <heatseeker0> asie, there's no rush. i'm a patient man :)
L903[18:12:28] <Temia> I didn't say that D:
L904[18:12:37] <Vexatos> Temia, you totally did :3
L905[18:12:43] <Temia> did noooot Dx
L906[18:12:49] <Vexatos> "before I release it"
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L908[18:12:55] <Vexatos> And I'd like to release it today
L909[18:13:01] <Vexatos> and it's already 7 p.m.
L910[18:13:02] <Vexatos> :3
L911[18:13:05] * Temia grumpmoos and blanketshuffles to her computer. meanie. =3=
L912[18:13:25] <Vexatos> Temia, I fixed all the peripheral conflicts you'll ever have had :P
L913[18:13:42] <heatseeker0> Vexatos, my motto: release then go to bed. What could possibly go wrong?
L914[18:13:59] <Vexatos> heatseeker0, it has been working just fine
L915[18:14:11] <Sangar> Shuudoushi, main point being stop/play on command? guess i could look into adding that for the driver so you can do that via adapter+jukebox
L916[18:14:21] <heatseeker0> was joking
L917[18:14:32] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: that will work wonderfully
L918[18:14:36] <heatseeker0> you know like push this critical update on production machines friday evening
L919[18:14:46] <Sangar> Shuudoushi, all right, make an issue on github so i don't forget ;)
L920[18:14:55] <Shuudoushi> lol, will do
L921[18:15:08] <Temia> I would never do that. I keep all my communication lines open so I'd never get any sleep ;A;
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L923[18:15:37] <Shuudoushi> as soon as I remember which tab I left the github on...
L924[18:15:40] <Temia> Vex if you were anywhere near me I'd demand a drone coffee airdrop or something =~=
L925[18:16:06] <Vexatos> Temia, I'd actually do that
L926[18:16:06] <Temia> ...also darn, I guess this means I can't be the sole user of Computronics 1.3.5 anymore
L927[18:16:12] <Vexatos> 1.4
L928[18:16:17] <Vexatos> too many changes
L929[18:16:19] <Temia> Exactly
L930[18:16:30] <Vexatos> so you can still be the sole user of 1.3.5
L931[18:16:35] <Vexatos> won't ever be released
L932[18:16:44] <Temia> Yeah except that 1.4's already out
L933[18:16:47] <Vexatos> ever meaning for the next few days
L934[18:18:32] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: It's a one liner... But it's there lol
L935[18:18:37] <ds84182> lpeg can go fuck itself... I mean... nothing
L936[18:18:45] <Shuudoushi> LMFAO
L937[18:19:10] <Temia> Booting up my CC test world. =.=
L938[18:19:42] <Shuudoushi> SuPeRMiNoR2: you get the portforwarding done?
L939[18:19:58] <Sangar> Shuudoushi, good enough for this ;)
L940[18:20:03] <Shuudoushi> lol
L941[18:20:12] <Shuudoushi> do take note of the foot note lol
L942[18:20:48] <Sangar> hehe
L943[18:22:02] <Shuudoushi> I'm still stuck on this a bit... https://github.com/Shuudoushi/OpenOS_Plus
L944[18:23:13] <Shuudoushi> I still can't get the event timer to die in a pit of fire when proper uth credits are sent...
L945[18:23:23] <Shuudoushi> auth*
L946[18:23:47] <Vexatos> Shuudoushi, no PlusPlus?
L947[18:23:47] <Vexatos> D:
L948[18:23:53] <Shuudoushi> lol, no
L949[18:24:09] <Shuudoushi> and it's only a working name, as I suck with coming up with names >.>
L950[18:24:56] <Temia> Okay, faffing about with the tapedrive, everything seems to check out
L951[18:25:02] <Temia> I really can't be bothered to check the other stuff. too sleepy
L952[18:25:09] <Shuudoushi> lol
L953[18:25:30] <Shuudoushi> "rockaby Temia in a trip top"
L954[18:25:41] <Shuudoushi> trip top o.O
L955[18:25:41] <Vexatos> Temia, you have openperipheral?
L956[18:25:47] <Shuudoushi> wtf fingers!!!
L957[18:25:48] <Temia> Nope .-.
L958[18:25:53] <Vexatos> Okay, nevermind then
L959[18:25:54] <Temia> I probably should
L960[18:25:55] <Shuudoushi> treetop*
L961[18:26:06] <Vexatos> Well, time to release
L962[18:26:07] <Vexatos> ASIE
L963[18:26:10] <Vexatos> asie
L964[18:26:11] <Vexatos> asie
L965[18:26:11] <Vexatos> asie
L966[18:26:11] <Vexatos> asie
L967[18:26:11] <Shuudoushi> lol
L968[18:26:11] <Vexatos> asie
L969[18:26:14] <Temia> asdfg
L970[18:26:25] * Temia headbutts Vex for being so noisy Dx
L971[18:26:28] <Vexatos> qwertzuiopü+#äölkjhgfdsixhjfdj7xc8vbn ovhgljhrerghjkl bbgxtmrtzsuddjhgf<sjdgffzu
L972[18:26:31] <Shuudoushi> XD
L973[18:26:34] <Vexatos> Temia, sorry, TTS not working yet
L974[18:26:36] * Temia headbutts again!
L975[18:26:38] <Vexatos> due to FML classloader
L976[18:26:44] <Temia> That's fine
L977[18:27:13] <Temia> Oh, so I wanted to ask
L978[18:27:32] <Temia> With the recent release of pure-lua cryptographic primitives, what're your plans for the advanced cipher block?
L979[18:27:56] <Vexatos> release? where
L980[18:28:04] <Temia> Hang on
L981[18:28:53] <Temia> https://github.com/somesocks/lua-lockbox
L982[18:29:05] <Dashkal> Sangar: I caught a t2 monitor not hooked up to anything getting blamed for a ton of tps lag two nights ago. Is there anything you can suggest I do to pin down what's actually going on? On 1.4.5 atm
L983[18:29:29] <Sangar> Dashkal, single or multiblock?
L984[18:29:33] <Dashkal> Single
L985[18:29:36] <Vexatos> Temia, those are 100% lua, right?
L986[18:29:37] <Dashkal> Had a keyboard behind it
L987[18:29:45] <Temia> Readme.md says so, at any rate
L988[18:29:45] <Vexatos> wget is your friend
L989[18:29:55] <Vexatos> The advanced cipher block does RSA
L990[18:29:55] * Sangar looks at update code
L991[18:29:59] <Vexatos> because, as you can see
L992[18:30:03] <Vexatos> that thing does not provide RSA
L993[18:30:08] <Vexatos> as it'd be slow as hell in Lua
L994[18:30:10] <Temia> Oh
L995[18:30:11] <Temia> So it doesn't
L996[18:30:15] <Temia> Misread =.=
L997[18:30:19] <Temia> Thought it did.
L998[18:30:22] <Temia> But okay
L999[18:30:34] <Temia> Advanced cryptoblock still has its uses then, yay
L1000[18:30:39] <Dashkal> I strongly suspect "being blamed for" is the right phrasing here. It doesn't make any sense that a monitor sitting there is doing stuff. But it could be related to chunkload derpery It's sitting in a loaded chunk in the nether next to an (inactive killer joe setup.
L1001[18:31:06] <Dashkal> I seem to have lost a ) somewhere...
L1002[18:31:18] <Sangar> Dashkal, have you used visualvm before?
L1003[18:31:33] <Dashkal> So far, no, actually. I'll see about getting the server restarted with the hooks up
L1004[18:31:42] <Dashkal> I know the theory, it gets used in the office from time to time.
L1005[18:31:43] <Sangar> that'd be immensely helpful
L1006[18:32:11] <Dashkal> Kk, if I can catch it with that I'll let you know. Not the first time I've seen OC blocks getting blamed this way, but there's no easy way for me to repro this one.
L1007[18:32:24] <Dashkal> The server was up about a week before I caught the thing
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L1009[18:33:13] <Shuudoushi> at least people havn't been going off the handle with OC like they did for CC, saying you can hack the server with it and all
L1010[18:33:20] <Sangar> one blind guess, screens are redstone aware, so maybe there's some update loop going on
L1011[18:33:24] <Shuudoushi> the stupidity of some people -_-
L1012[18:33:35] <Dashkal> That could well be. I do have some redstone stuff next to it
L1013[18:33:38] <Dashkal> meeting time
L1014[18:33:56] <Sangar> mm, i'll do some tests with redstone then
L1015[18:34:39] <Sangar> after dinner
L1016[18:34:41] <Sangar> bbl
L1017[18:35:32] <Shuudoushi> o/
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L1019[18:39:11] <Negi> Wish I'd know how to Java/Scala ._.
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L1023[18:48:31] <Vexatos> Temia, does it be doing the doings work?+
L1024[18:48:58] <Temia> I haven't messed around with more than the tape drive, but all methods seem functional
L1025[18:49:16] <Vexatos> k
L1026[18:49:26] <Vexatos> Now I need to wait for asie
L1027[18:49:50] * Vexatos pings Sir Professor Doctor Adrian
L1028[18:49:52] <Vexatos> asie ^
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L1030[18:50:17] <asie> Vexatos: zzzzzzzzz
L1031[18:50:28] <Vexatos> asie: two files for you to upload <-<
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L1035[19:03:33] <Vexatos> well, no release today then :(
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L1038[19:16:05] <Kodos|Zzz> Vex, you mind a PM
L1039[19:16:22] <Vexatos> No
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L1046[19:22:05] <dangranos> at least not eternal illnes
L1047[19:22:12] <dangranos> wai..
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L1055[19:43:26] <Lumien> Since a robot has to be turned on to chunk load, it therefore NEEDS a bootable medium right?
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L1057[19:45:32] <Kodos> s/chunk load/do anything
L1058[19:45:32] <Kibibyte> <Lumien> Since a robot has to be turned on to do anything, it therefore NEEDS a bootable medium right?
L1059[19:45:38] <Kodos> ANd yes
L1060[19:46:14] <Kodos> Also http://puu.sh/eWyJF/03a80a2d9a.jpg =D
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L1063[19:47:09] <Pwootage> bwahahaha, I am now running pokemon yellow on my 3ds \o/
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L1065[19:51:10] <Negi> Pwootage : Ninjhax ?
L1066[19:51:22] <Pwootage> Nope, 3ds browser exploit
L1067[19:51:29] <Negi> SHOW ME NOW
L1068[19:51:39] <Pwootage> sec
L1069[19:51:51] <Negi> Please.
L1070[19:51:52] <Negi> *
L1071[19:52:10] <Pwootage> (hahaha, I have a debug yellow rom with a built-in memcorruptor. "Ding ding, your safari game is over" -> tp to safari zone -> "The hooked MOLTRES attacked!"
L1072[19:52:19] <Pwootage> It requires link's awakening dx atm
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L1074[19:53:58] <Pwootage> also, a 3ds or 3ds xl 9.0 to 9.4
L1075[19:54:02] <Pwootage> (not the new ones)
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L1078[19:58:04] <Negi> Link's Awakening DX ? No has;
L1079[19:58:21] <Pwootage> Oh hey it's been updated, neato
L1080[20:00:03] <Pwootage> https://gbatemp.net/threads/injecting-roms-into-vc-with-only-the-web-browser-sure.379760/page-9#post-5307660
L1081[20:00:03] <Pwootage> https://gbatemp.net/threads/injecting-roms-into-vc-with-only-the-web-browser-sure.379760/page-9#post-5307660
L1082[20:00:09] <Pwootage> Download that rar
L1083[20:00:59] <Pwootage> one sec, gotta extract it on my mac >.> it's kinda a pain
L1084[20:02:06] <gamax92> Negi: your winner!
L1085[20:02:53] <Pwootage> instructions are in the readme in the rar, it seems
L1086[20:06:02] <Pwootage> wat... "The enemy substitute absorbed the damage... The enemy substitute broke! Enemy MOLTRES's rage is building! Enemy MOLTRES's ATTACK rose! Enemy MOLTRES must recharge! LEECH SEED saps enemy MOLTRES!"
L1087[20:07:45] <Pwootage> also, RIP pikachu, he got changed into a Missingno. :(
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L1090[20:09:55] <^v> Oh noes! services split 3:
L1091[20:10:05] <gamax92> R.I.P services
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L1095[20:12:42] <Negi> I'm baack \o
L1096[20:15:00] <gamax92> Negi: I'm headache
L1097[20:15:18] <Negi> Ah but you need a VC game.
L1098[20:15:26] <gamax92> a Virtual Console?
L1099[20:15:31] * Negi tucks gamax92 in bed and gives him medication.
L1100[20:15:35] <gamax92> wot.
L1101[20:15:53] * gamax92 is uncomfortable with this.
L1102[20:15:55] <Negi> No, that was actually destined to Pwootage. You don't need a VC game, gamax92.
L1103[20:16:08] <Pwootage> Yeha you need A vc game
L1104[20:16:10] <Negi> Also sorry an habitude of taking care of everyone.
L1105[20:16:17] <Negi> I has no VC games D:
L1106[20:16:21] <Pwootage> with a rom at least as big as the one you want to use
L1107[20:16:23] <gamax92> I have some VC games
L1108[20:16:24] <Negi> Only DSiWare D:
L1109[20:16:46] <gamax92> I also have FCEUX GX Wii and are much more pleased with it than the VC's
L1110[20:17:49] <Pwootage> Turns out if you go in the safari zone without actually being in the safari zone you don't get any encounters whatsoever
L1111[20:20:21] <Pwootage> Walked out, appeared outside the pokemart in pewter... alright?
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L1113[20:25:30] <CompanionCube> Pwootage, there is a glitch regarding the safari zone
L1114[20:25:38] <CompanionCube> could be used to enter glitch city
L1115[20:26:09] <Pwootage> Yeah, I'm fairly familiar with most of the glitches in rby that you can get to without memory editing
L1116[20:26:15] <Pwootage> atm I'm memory corrupting so anything can happen
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L1118[20:28:52] <Pwootage> turns out you can define main in c with const int main[]
L1119[20:31:00] <Pwootage> T.T nurse joy just walked out of the pokemon center... :(
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L1124[20:53:09] <Negi> wth
L1125[20:53:15] <Negi> Pwootage: How do you even
L1126[20:53:27] <Pwootage> Negi: hm?
L1127[20:53:36] <Negi> Pwootage | T.T nurse joy just walked out of the pokemon center... :(
L1128[20:53:43] <Negi> How can she even disappear...
L1129[20:53:55] <Negi> (I thought she was part of the map lmao
L1130[20:54:03] <Pwootage> Memory corrupting, her actor got corrupted and walked right out of the room
L1131[20:54:26] <Pwootage> also https://twitter.com/Pwootage/status/560174517704593408
L1132[20:57:22] <Pwootage> (because of where she's located she walked over the counter and out the door straight down, so it really looked like she walked out)
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L1144[21:26:40] <Lumien> Sangar when i change the eeprom can i in theory "turn on" the turtle and let it chunk load without having a disk drive / hard drive in it?
L1145[21:28:04] <Sangar> sure
L1146[21:29:37] <Kodos> s/turtle/robot
L1147[21:29:37] <Kibibyte> <Lumien> Sangar when i change the eeprom can i in theory "turn on" the robot and let it chunk load without having a disk drive / hard drive in it?
L1148[21:29:41] <Kodos> >.>
L1149[21:29:48] <Lumien> kk
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L1157[21:58:19] <Pwootage> Uh
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L1161[22:01:10] <Pwootage> Someone who does scala: what am I doing wrong? https://pwootage.com/paste/phggzccyu
L1162[22:01:16] <Pwootage> error: "Head of empty list"
L1163[22:02:08] <Pwootage> Herp it's an empty stack problem
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L1172[22:28:28] <Dashkal> Pwootage: prefer headOption to head, for exactly that reason
L1173[22:28:52] <Pwootage> blerglglellgler yeah that's a good point
L1174[22:29:12] <Pwootage> I wrapped it in an if instead which is uglier but also works
L1175[22:30:31] <Dashkal> Indeed, though you tend to end up with more composable code with the option method.
L1176[22:30:44] <Dashkal> Point is, avoiding partial functions outright makes those crashes stop.
L1177[22:31:11] <Dashkal> Giving you the option (heh) to fail explicitly when necessarally, instead of randomly.
L1178[22:31:15] <Dashkal> necessary*
L1179[22:35:39] <Pwootage> woot, recursive decent syntax parsing and symbol table generation successful
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L1183[22:47:39] <Dashkal> Recursive descent... *mutters* I have syntax parts that lead to non-termination if I'm not super careful
L1184[22:47:46] <Dashkal> Special parse rules that exclude looping
L1185[22:48:36] <Dashkal> Trouble: application := term term; term := parens | application | letBinding | primitive
L1186[22:49:14] <ds84182> just use lpeg
L1187[22:49:50] <Dashkal> Not really the right kind of solution. The issue was in my grammar. What I just described is of course an infinite loop waiting to happen
L1188[22:50:39] <Dashkal> Also has other bugs. Application must be first, but application must be: application := termNoApplication term
L1189[22:51:21] <Dashkal> Worth the headache parsing though. I get curried functions by default which leads to all kinds of concise code.
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L1191[22:54:54] <Pwootage> I don't want to do recursive decent either but that's what I get to do
L1192[22:55:03] <Pwootage> I want to try my own thing and see how it goes (dunno the term for it)
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L1194[22:56:49] <Pwootage> At least syntax parsing is done so I can work on my OS simulation class for a while
L1195[22:57:43] <Soni> I had an idea https://github.com/SoniEx2/sexlua/wiki/Changes-from-Rio-Lua:-OP_PUSH-POPFENV,-5.1-like-environments-but-more-powerful.
L1196[22:57:50] <Soni> damn that's a long URL
L1197[23:00:04] <Pwootage> The good news is I should have plenty of time for ocjam this weekend! \o/
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L1200[23:06:13] <Pwootage> ds84182: you were using devkitARM right?
L1201[23:06:53] <ds84182> yes
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L1203[23:08:04] <Pwootage> K cool I have that on my mac now, how convenient
L1204[23:08:37] <ds84182> Pwootage: I'm stalking ur twittr now
L1205[23:08:49] <Pwootage> D:
L1206[23:09:19] <Pwootage> (although it hasn't told me you're doing that yet oddly)
L1207[23:19:45] <Caitlyn> well...
L1208[23:19:47] <Caitlyn> this is going well
L1209[23:19:48] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/f7rFn/c473c21185.png
L1210[23:19:52] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/f7rOD/fcf8517d60.jpg
L1211[23:20:54] <Pwootage> looks like a printer?
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L1213[23:21:11] <Caitlyn> Yeah
L1214[23:21:45] <Caitlyn> Except these json model files look like ass
L1215[23:21:53] <Caitlyn> and I can't uvwrap to save my life
L1216[23:21:55] <Pwootage> looks like way too many polys ot me
L1217[23:22:13] <Caitlyn> pfft, you should see what it looks like with the OBJ renderer...
L1218[23:22:42] <Caitlyn> hmm do I have ap uush
L1219[23:22:45] <Pwootage> specifically if that's for MC it's waaaay too high-def :(
L1220[23:22:53] <Caitlyn> ...
L1221[23:23:08] <Caitlyn> You'ven ot seen my other work, have you? lol
L1222[23:23:37] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/8penP.jpg
L1223[23:23:41] <Caitlyn> right there it is in 1.7
L1224[23:24:04] <Pwootage> My answer still doesn't change ;D
L1225[23:24:19] <Caitlyn> It has an option to drop the 3d renderer...
L1226[23:24:27] <Caitlyn> as do the rest of my mods that add models.
L1227[23:24:43] <Caitlyn> I just like stuff to look pretty ^_^
L1228[23:25:29] <Pwootage> I don't mind 3d models
L1229[23:25:34] <Pwootage> Thaumcraft is beautiful
L1230[23:26:44] <Pwootage> How many polys in the 1.8 model out of curisoity
L1231[23:26:45] <Pwootage> ?
L1232[23:27:12] <Caitlyn> idfk :D
L1233[23:27:23] <Pwootage> Well how many cubes?
L1234[23:27:36] <Caitlyn> see above
L1235[23:28:07] <Pwootage> Didn't see it in the corner, 1050 x2 = 2k tris
L1236[23:29:02] <Pwootage> I guess what really bugs me is the fact that it has parts smaller than 1/16th of a block (1 pixel)
L1237[23:29:31] <Caitlyn> I can drop the resolution, but it REALLY looks bad then
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L1240[23:30:26] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/f7ttl/5c66933c00.jpg
L1241[23:30:33] <Caitlyn> 288 faces
L1242[23:30:34] <Coreymills23> can open computer robots pickup water in a bucket?
L1243[23:31:10] <Pwootage> I don't know if that's the right model for a printer in MC :P
L1244[23:31:15] <Pwootage> ~w tank
L1245[23:31:15] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-math.tan
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L1247[23:31:22] <Pwootage> sec, finding it manually
L1248[23:31:44] <Caitlyn> I still have to figure out how to UVWrap this...
L1249[23:33:14] <Pwootage> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:robot the drain*() methods (requires a tank upgrade)
L1250[23:34:26] <Coreymills23> thanks, another reason to use OC over CC
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L1252[23:34:51] <MandrakeF> Hello all
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L1254[23:35:32] <Pwootage> Coreymills23: not to promote CC or anything but isn't there a bucket turtle?
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L1256[23:35:50] <Caitlyn> not in stock CC afaik
L1257[23:36:01] <Caitlyn> I've not done much with CC in ages though
L1258[23:36:05] <Caitlyn> so maybe?
L1259[23:36:40] <TabletCube> Caitlyn: is that z
L1260[23:36:49] <Caitlyn> z?
L1261[23:36:57] <TabletCube> a combo printer / scanner
L1262[23:37:09] <Caitlyn> Yeah OpenPrinter...
L1263[23:37:15] <Caitlyn> http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/54-mc-164172-oc-12-openprinter/
L1264[23:37:18] <Coreymills23> no miscPeripherals adds the bucket turtle
L1265[23:37:22] <Caitlyn> I'm getting the core mod ready for 1.8
L1266[23:37:35] <Caitlyn> so when OC for 1.8 eleases I can just drop in the API stuff and release
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L1268[23:38:27] <Coreymills23> and if i can do something with 1 mod over using 2 ill stick with the 1 mod
L1269[23:40:09] <Pwootage> Holy cow bibliocraft has a lot more blocks in it since the last time I checked O.o awesome
L1270[23:45:14] <Sandra> I want to wait until I can fully port OA to 1.8 before working on it.
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L1272[23:45:25] <Sandra> that means dependencies as well.
L1273[23:45:58] <Caitlyn> well, OP depends on just OC, and I don't get this new rendering crap so I figured I'd start early :P
L1274[23:46:32] <Sandra> So waiting for OC, TConstruct and (maybe) Thermal Foundation although that's just recipes so it's not really required.
L1275[23:46:47] <Pwootage> I seem to remember TF saying it was going to take a while?
L1276[23:46:53] <Kodos> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/10872723_855847941133165_3551830384151234263_o.png
L1277[23:47:02] <Sandra> yeah, that's why I say maybe.
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L1279[23:47:52] <Sandra> I think with this new rendering stuff I may actually be able to make my blocks not look like crap.
L1280[23:48:20] <Pwootage> Kodos: what's that crossbow from?
L1281[23:48:20] <Sandra> Although the thing I will miss most is ForgeDirection. :(
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L1283[23:48:28] <Caitlyn> Pwootage, http://puu.sh/f7w9P/75852e0ae5.jpg 174 faces :P
L1284[23:48:31] <Pwootage> Wait is ForgeDirection gone?
L1285[23:48:36] <Sandra> yep.
L1286[23:48:43] <Sandra> been replaced with EnumFacing.
L1287[23:48:46] <Sandra> from vanilla.
L1288[23:48:47] <Kodos> Pwootage, that's a 1.8 resource pack, it's a vanilla dispenser
L1289[23:48:55] <Pwootage> Kodos: DUDE THAT IS AWESOME
L1290[23:49:37] <Pwootage> Caitlyn: I'm not sure it needs all the bumpy front panels, if you don't mind I'm curious what that looks like
L1291[23:49:37] <Kodos> It's just a small taste of what block models are going to be possible with
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L1293[23:50:26] <Caitlyn> Pwootage, the image is horribly uvmapped atm as it's just pasting the main texture over each chunk of model
L1294[23:50:38] <Caitlyn> so... the LCD screen should only show up once..
L1295[23:51:07] <Caitlyn> much like the image I showed from 1.6/1.7
L1296[23:51:35] <Pwootage> the 1.7 one looks simpler to me
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L1298[23:51:57] <Caitlyn> the 1.7 is a simple OBJ render
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L1300[23:54:56] <Pwootage> my point was the new one is more complicated than the old one (and that's not necessarily better :P)
L1301[23:55:04] <Caitlyn> It's not really...
L1302[23:55:17] <Caitlyn> The new one has a LOT less complexity..
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L1304[23:56:00] <Pwootage> Three left bays, a more complicated top, a more complicated middle (not just a bunch of drawers)
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L1306[23:56:31] <Caitlyn> Pwootage, it's the *exact* same model
L1307[23:56:40] <Caitlyn> matter of fact, it's an OBJ->JSON conversion
L1308[23:56:47] <Pwootage> oh hey look at me I'm blind >.>
L1309[23:57:00] * Caitlyn slowclaps
L1310[23:57:01] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/f7xnT/e99fbdfc07.png
L1311[23:57:02] <Pwootage> can't you do angled boxes in 1.8? Judging by that dispenser model
L1312[23:57:15] <Caitlyn> is the stats per blender of the obj
L1313[23:57:39] <Pwootage> (bbl heading to the train)
L1314[23:58:10] <Caitlyn> that looks like the exact method I used for the angled panel in the original screenshot I shared... lots of small blocks
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