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L5[00:40:35] <PotatoTrumpet> http://puu.sh/eQBS9/45ae10a427.jpg I feel so happy
L6[00:45:11] <wolfmitchell> PSA: Windows 10 apperantly includes a package manager https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2t784r/windows_10_will_be_a_free_upgradewhos_going_to_be/cnwe6uo
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L8[00:48:33] <DeanIsaKitty> PotatoTrumpet: http://i.imgur.com/scxQYfC.png :P
L9[00:49:10] <PotatoTrumpet> DeanIsaKitty, Well, I have the level 1 hangar and level 2 runway
L10[00:49:19] <PotatoTrumpet> and, it can takeoff on the level 1 runway
L11[00:49:26] <PotatoTrumpet> short takeoff
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L13[01:18:55] <iceIsWhite> Windows 10 may make me jump back to windows for a few days
L14[01:18:57] <iceIsWhite> or not
L15[01:18:59] <iceIsWhite> LOL
L16[01:19:14] <iceIsWhite> just long enough to downgrade to windows 7 then back up to windows 10
L17[01:24:24] <PotatoTrumpet> #WindowsMasterrace
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L19[01:25:07] <iceIsWhite> Pokemon in japanese is 陰茎の穴
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L21[01:26:30] <iceIsWhite> lolnope
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L73[02:31:10] <Pwootage> WOW DAT SPLIT
L74[02:31:22] <Pwootage> capslock is cruise control for cool
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L97[03:01:01] <ds84182> my single threaded program
L98[03:01:07] <ds84182> has a race condition
L99[03:01:26] <ds84182> how the hell did I manage that
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L102[03:03:43] <Soni> ds84182, what?
L103[03:06:13] <ds84182> http://hastebin.com/uhaxugiget.xml
L104[03:06:32] <ds84182> response from two different plugins
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L106[03:08:50] <Soni> ds84182, does it use hashmaps?
L107[03:09:03] <Soni> (more specifically, does it /iterate/ hashmaps?)
L108[03:09:25] <ds84182> It's lua
L109[03:09:37] <ds84182> And the tables it iterates do not change
L110[03:09:46] <Soni> hmm
L111[03:11:04] <Soni> ds84182, do you use nonblocking sockets?
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L113[03:12:04] <ds84182> yeah, but only for the actual IRC loop
L114[03:12:25] <ds84182> I don't think I handle socket blocking with the other stuff (they don't work well with coroutines)
L115[03:13:29] <Soni> ds84182, maybe that's the problem?
L116[03:13:49] <ds84182> eh, I don't have nonblocking enabled globally tho
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L118[03:14:19] <Soni> ds84182, idk, try using ipairs() where you can, and try disabling non-blocking for that
L119[03:14:22] <Soni> at least for testing
L120[03:14:48] <ds84182> meh, it's not really a problem
L121[03:15:00] <ds84182> (well, until it manages to freeze or something)
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L131[03:24:42] <gamax92> Well i just spent the last 2 hours decoding a .pages document only to find out .iwa files are just LZ77 compressed
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L138[04:22:13] <PotatoTrumpet> http://puu.sh/eR67r/0ad51fa69d.jpg
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L140[04:28:27] <Inari> PotatoTrumpet: OC controlled rocket?
L141[04:29:43] <PotatoTrumpet> OC?
L142[04:29:50] <PotatoTrumpet> oh
L143[04:29:51] <PotatoTrumpet> yah
L144[04:29:56] <PotatoTrumpet> Suuuuuuure
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L156[05:15:06] <SandraNicole> Hey look at the brand new feature in OA! https://imgur.com/a/xwZcD
L157[05:15:19] <SandraNicole> woo hoo!
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L170[06:35:27] <Vexatos> o/
L171[06:36:16] <SandraNicole> \o
L172[06:37:07] <Vexatos> Gah. I got so frustrated about my linux machine yesterday I wasn't able to finally finish my MuseScore script
L173[06:37:08] <Vexatos> :/
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L206[09:10:06] <Vexatos> I feel insane
L207[09:10:16] <g> In the membrane?
L208[09:10:42] <Vexatos> I need asie to come online so he can "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE" at me
L209[09:11:02] <g> But he never talks in here
L210[09:11:02] <g> ._.
L211[09:11:05] <g> just posts random links
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L218[09:54:09] <ShadowKatStudios> I need to work on my new config settings.
L219[09:54:28] <ShadowKatStudios> I will create a whole new set of recipes, they'll be cheap as- and I'll call it: CC mode
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L224[10:32:32] <ShadowKatStudios> This is so weird.
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L226[10:32:39] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm actually writing documentation
L227[10:33:06] <g> sometimes I feel like doing that
L228[10:33:07] <g> and then
L229[10:33:08] <g> I don't
L230[10:33:11] <g> anymore..
L231[10:33:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Also, I have tmux running on my local machine, then I've ssh'd into my server on one half and I have a tmux session running on there.
L232[10:33:57] <g> tmuxception
L233[10:34:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Yep :D
L234[10:34:27] <SandraNicole> Purrty Lasers: https://i.imgur.com/ODR01Ch.png
L235[10:34:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Naturally, I'm using vim on both sessions
L236[10:34:41] <g> wut
L237[10:34:46] <g> what's this, sandra?
L238[10:34:57] <SandraNicole> That, is openautomation.
L239[10:35:06] <ShadowKatStudios> oh fuck, I have to re-impliment the FS driver
L240[10:35:35] <g> lazer.
L241[10:36:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Do I want to copypasta the FS driver from micrOS? It's more or less functional, the shell just sucks
L242[10:36:22] * g found it
L243[10:37:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Ugh, but I changed how syscalls work >.<
L244[10:37:42] <g> SandraNicole: the build script has gradlew in it but there's no gradlew in the repo
L245[10:40:57] <g> SandraNicole: also your git isn't set up right
L246[10:41:01] <dangranos> http://xkcd.com/979/
L247[10:41:04] <g> you didn't set the email properly
L248[10:41:05] <g> :P
L249[10:41:25] <ShadowKatStudios> syscall.register("fs_invoke",function(method,...) return fs.drive_map[fs.activeDrive][method](...) end) --wtf?
L250[10:41:35] <ShadowKatStudios> That is literally my favourite line of code from micrOS
L251[10:42:32] <skyem123> That is almost the exact same code that is in miniOS
L252[10:43:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Interestingly enough, I was looking at parts of miniOS while writing micrOS
L253[10:43:05] <skyem123> haha
L254[10:43:20] <skyem123> I like LUA
L255[10:43:28] <skyem123> s/LUA/Lua/
L256[10:43:28] <Kibibyte> <skyem123> I like Lua
L257[10:43:29] <g> Lua*
L258[10:43:30] <g> :P
L259[10:43:31] <g> Dammit
L260[10:43:34] <skyem123> haha
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L262[10:43:40] <g> freakin' ninja
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L264[10:44:29] <skyem123> ugh
L265[10:44:49] <ShadowKatStudios> I very much regret not saving my micrOS docs
L266[10:45:12] <skyem123> miniOS has no docs
L267[10:45:23] <ShadowKatStudios> micrOS did.
L268[10:45:30] <ShadowKatStudios> At one point.
L269[10:45:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Only I had them
L270[10:45:39] <skyem123> The largest program written for miniOS had loads of comments
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L272[10:47:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Copypasta'd MicrOS code? Check.
L273[10:49:09] <dangranos> xkcd 979 is my new favorite
L274[10:49:39] <dangranos> hmm, is there anything that isnt a xkcd strip?
L275[10:50:01] <ShadowKatStudios> many things
L276[10:50:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Ohkay, the new kernel is now too big to fit on an EEPROM.
L277[10:50:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Noted.
L278[10:51:27] <skyem123> Why not make an FS that always requires the drive and full path? Or does it already cut down to that?
L279[10:51:27] <dangranos> what is smallest working compression lua?
L280[10:51:42] <dangranos> *archive compression
L281[10:52:35] <ShadowKatStudios> skyem123: fs_resolve
L282[10:54:31] <ShadowKatStudios> http://shadowkat.tk/projects/os/syscalls.php Yep.
L283[10:54:47] <SandraNicole> g, I have my repos setup really, /really/ weirdly.
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L286[10:55:10] <g> SandraNicole: yes
L287[10:55:12] <g> why? :P
L288[10:55:28] <skyem123> I need to make miniOS better
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L290[10:55:38] <dangranos> sks, >I'm cheap, so I use a laptop to bridge the wifi to my small ethernet network
L291[10:55:40] <dangranos> um
L292[10:55:42] <SandraNicole> Because I have an overly complicated mess of mods, and I don't want to keep them all in the same repo.
L293[10:55:44] <dangranos> thats kinda overkill
L294[10:55:51] <skyem123|away> Now I need to school stuff.
L295[10:55:51] <dangranos> using laptop as brodge
L296[10:55:55] <dangranos> *bridge
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L298[10:56:40] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: Not when you don't have a bridge for it.
L299[10:57:01] <dangranos> what about using cables?
L300[10:58:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I wasn't allowed at the time
L301[10:58:07] <ShadowKatStudios> I've moved rooms since.
L302[10:58:17] <ShadowKatStudios> That info is outdated as
L303[10:58:23] <ShadowKatStudios> but I gotta do the new kernel first
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L305[11:03:07] <ShadowKatStudios> I have discovered redundancy.
L306[11:03:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Killkillkillkillkillkillkill making the source smaller and the memory usage lower :D
L307[11:03:37] <g> SandraNicole: well that's fine, but what's wrong with a maven repo or something?
L308[11:04:26] <SandraNicole> A maven repo? Hosted where exactly?
L309[11:04:38] <g> on github?
L310[11:04:53] <SandraNicole> github can't host maven repos I don't think?
L311[11:04:58] <g> sure it can
L312[11:05:05] <g> I've compiled against bukkit plugins that do just that
L313[11:05:12] <SandraNicole> what? how?
L314[11:05:17] <g> It's just a git repo
L315[11:05:22] <g> all a maven repo is is a set of files
L316[11:05:25] <g> in specific places
L317[11:05:30] <g> so you can just use raw.github.com
L318[11:05:47] <g> since maven just assumes it knows where the files are instead of discovering them
L319[11:05:48] <SandraNicole> and, I really don't feel like changing my build setup again.
L320[11:06:24] <SandraNicole> I've put too much time into making the current one work.
L321[11:06:37] <g> yeah, I'm not saying you should change it now
L322[11:06:56] <g> but like, next time.. now you have an new thing to try :P
L323[11:07:03] <g> a new*
L324[11:07:29] <SandraNicole> ehh..... if someone gives me a jenkins then I'll change it, until then nope.
L325[11:07:50] <g> I have a bamboo you could use.. but it's not jenkins :P
L326[11:08:22] <ShadowKatStudios> ffs youtube, is it that hard?
L327[11:08:27] <SandraNicole> ehh.... nah.
L328[11:08:35] <SandraNicole> What'd they do now SKS?
L329[11:08:37] * g doesn't really like jenkins
L330[11:09:01] <ShadowKatStudios> It won't play- the whole video is buffered, but it won't play
L331[11:09:28] <SandraNicole> Also, the laser particle effect is a crazy hack requiring Computronics to work.
L332[11:09:54] <SandraNicole> the lasers don't require it, but for the particle effect it requires Computronics.
L333[11:10:25] <SandraNicole> Because I'm an idiot who doesn't know how to code anything of a graphical or networking nature.
L334[11:10:44] <SandraNicole> All my code runs on server side only pretty much. :D
L335[11:11:03] <dangranos> sitting on #space-engineers , they are discussing dirt bombs and etc
L336[11:11:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm, okay, 2k of code for core functionality, another 2k for FS...
L337[11:11:59] <SandraNicole> wow, that's a huge FS code.
L338[11:12:14] <ShadowKatStudios> SandraNicole: OpenOS's is 10k
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L341[11:13:21] <SandraNicole> I mean comparitively.
L342[11:13:29] <SandraNicole> or however you spell that word.
L343[11:13:37] <ShadowKatStudios> comparatively?
L344[11:13:41] <ShadowKatStudios> ffs I dunno either
L345[11:13:54] <ShadowKatStudios> It's way smaller than OpenOS's, anyway
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L348[11:18:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Wow, I actually really miss some of Haiku's features.
L349[11:19:46] <dangranos> like what?
L350[11:21:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Like when you type in something in the file manager, it doesn't only do the start, it does the whole name when searching
L351[11:21:47] <ShadowKatStudios> also the stacking of windows
L352[11:22:17] <ShadowKatStudios> ~w component:filesystem
L353[11:22:18] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:filesystem
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L355[11:25:24] <ShadowKatStudios> The word path is starting to annoy me.
L356[11:30:32] <dangranos> gnu asm tutorial?
L357[11:42:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Just found the music from that ME!ME!ME! video on youtube, I'd forgotten how weird but awesome it is.
L358[11:43:26] <SandraNicole> oh god ME!ME!ME!
L359[11:44:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Surprisingly good to type to.
L360[11:46:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Geez, it takes longer to write documentation than actual code...
L361[11:47:25] <SandraNicole> yep.
L362[11:47:28] <SandraNicole> that it does.
L363[11:47:47] <ShadowKatStudios> http://shadowkat.tk/projects/os/syscalls.php On the upside, it now reflects the current state of the code
L364[11:55:34] <ShadowKatStudios> FTL: " I've beaten the game. Once. On easy. After 162 runs. "
L365[11:58:03] <SandraNicole> Pretty much.
L366[11:58:46] <SandraNicole> Me: I haven't gotten past sector 6. At all. After about 20 runs.
L367[11:59:05] <g> I got to the last sector and died horribly
L368[11:59:06] <g> \o/
L369[11:59:17] <ShadowKatStudios> I've played the game probably 100 times, got to the second-last one and got owned.
L370[11:59:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Yet FTL is still easier than nethack
L371[12:00:31] <SandraNicole> of course.
L372[12:00:39] <SandraNicole> FTL is child's play compared to nethack.
L373[12:00:57] <SandraNicole> My friend described to me what you have to do to beat nethack.
L374[12:00:58] <SandraNicole> wow.
L375[12:01:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Not die?
L376[12:02:19] <ShadowKatStudios> ._. I should just download the ME!ME!ME! song, I'm just repeatedly pressing play again anyway
L377[12:04:14] <SandraNicole> It's basically a really long quest which is massively long, considering in my playthroughs of nethack I was only able to get up to like the third floor down.
L378[12:12:01] <Cruor> ShadowKatStudios: play again? thing loops by default .-.
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L383[12:26:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Cruor: Watching in on youtube, it lacks autorepeat for non-playlists
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L386[12:45:30] * Vexatos pokes Sangar
L387[12:46:19] <Cruor> ShadowKatStudios: oh >_<
L388[12:46:28] <Cruor> youtube is silly :<
L389[12:46:58] <dangranos> huh
L390[12:50:13] <Cruor> am i supposed to know what nethack is ;_;
L391[12:51:57] <dangranos> roguelike, iirc
L392[12:52:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Cruor: sudo pacman -S nethack && nethack
L393[12:54:04] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles ShadowKatStudios
L394[12:54:31] <Cruor> does it look like cmd knows wtf sudo is
L395[12:55:20] * ShadowKatStudios cuddles DeanIsaKitty
L396[12:55:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Switching to laptop
L397[12:55:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Cruor: Get a real OS
L398[13:01:39] <Cruor> im going to assume linux is a real OS <_<
L399[13:07:45] <dangranos> yep
L400[13:09:16] <dangranos> pacman is package manager
L401[13:09:36] <dangranos> primarily on arch and arch-based distros
L402[13:09:59] <g> pacman makes me sad.
L403[13:10:29] <g> what is it? -Syu? -Su?
L404[13:10:39] <g> one of these things will break everythign \o/
L405[13:10:41] <g> everything*
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L421[15:30:25] <Caitlyn> yay time on my vserver is once again where it should be...
L422[15:30:40] <g> Caitlyn: in the past?
L423[15:30:51] <Caitlyn> 12 seconds in the past actually
L424[15:30:56] <Caitlyn> it was running 12 seconds fast.
L425[15:30:56] <g> close enough
L426[15:30:58] <g> lol
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L428[15:32:09] <ShadowKatStudios> g: the pacman command that I could possibly see breaking stuff is -Su, which doesn't sync the package lists, which is bad because though I think it downloads the new one first, if it removed the old package you'd have it uninstalled, which would be bad (of course, it's still in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/)
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L436[15:48:24] <dangranos> back
L437[16:01:11] <Negi> urback
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L440[16:07:02] <gamax92> hmm are there lua programmers awake atm?
L441[16:07:13] <gamax92> WOAH Caitlyn HAS OP :O
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L443[16:07:23] <Caitlyn> lmao
L444[16:07:28] <Shuudoushi> I'm kinda of a programmer...
L445[16:07:35] <Shuudoushi> I know how to fuck shit up at lest lol
L446[16:07:49] <Shuudoushi> s/lest/least
L447[16:07:49] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> I know how to fuck shit up at least lol
L448[16:07:51] <vifino> gamax92: I am.
L449[16:07:52] <vifino> Hue
L450[16:08:18] <dangranos> s/least/test
L451[16:08:19] <vifino> I'm kinda busy looking for something to spend my money on.
L452[16:08:19] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> I know how to fuck shit up at test lol
L453[16:08:20] <Caitlyn> Yeah I've been op for like... 2 days now?
L454[16:08:38] <dangranos> how you get a voice?
L455[16:08:44] <gamax92> http://hastebin.com/igutaziray.lua
L456[16:08:57] <Caitlyn> Oh almost 3 days..
L457[16:09:19] <Caitlyn> dangranos, now days? no idea.. when the op that shall not be named was around, when he felt like it :P
L458[16:09:21] <dangranos> gamax92, what si this?
L459[16:09:23] <dangranos> *is
L460[16:09:34] <Caitlyn> iirc it was mainly given to mod/addon devs
L461[16:09:39] <gamax92> It unpacks (Snappy framing) and then decompresses (LZ77) Mac's iWork .iwa files
L462[16:09:54] <gamax92> I used this to read a document that was in some .pages shit
L463[16:10:09] <Shuudoushi> what's it doing that it's not supposed to?
L464[16:10:21] <gamax92> oh no it works perfectly fine
L465[16:10:34] <gamax92> on the first try too :D
L466[16:10:35] <Shuudoushi> ok
L467[16:11:24] <Shuudoushi> looks clean at least
L468[16:11:28] <dangranos> http://xkcd.com/305/
L469[16:11:42] <dangranos> damn, xkcd is awesome
L470[16:13:03] <Shuudoushi> oh wtf lol
L471[16:14:48] <dangranos> i am sure there is subrule of rule 34 that says something about xkcd
L472[16:15:07] <Shuudoushi> kinda
L473[16:15:24] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: Rule 34 is all it needs.
L474[16:15:37] <Shuudoushi> rule 34 states that if it exist, then there is porn of it, no exceptions
L475[16:15:40] <ShadowKatStudios> If it exists, there is porn of it. Therefore there is xkcd porn.
L476[16:15:51] <dangranos> pls dont
L477[16:16:21] <Shuudoushi> fire up tor and go to the hidden wiki, you'll fnd it there if no where else
L478[16:16:21] <gamax92> local function b(z) return tonumber(z,2) end
L479[16:16:26] <gamax92> because i am too lazy to binary
L480[16:17:06] <Shuudoushi> speaking of too lazy...
L481[16:17:27] <gamax92> .l function b(z)return tonumber(z,2)end return b"01"
L482[16:17:27] <^v> gamax92, 1
L483[16:17:28] <Shuudoushi> I still have to go rip most of my cars motor apart and fix some oil leaks...
L484[16:17:30] <gamax92> see is so good
L485[16:17:41] <gamax92> i can just put binary numbers like this b"10010101"
L486[16:17:50] <gamax92> .l function b(z)return tonumber(z,2)end return b"10010101"
L487[16:17:50] <^v> gamax92, 149
L488[16:18:39] <Shuudoushi> and i still need to remember the proper way to pull args...
L489[16:19:03] <dangranos> you can do this? :O
L490[16:19:11] <CompanionCube> http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2014-2015/0075/amend/su075-I-rev-b.pdf
L491[16:19:22] <CompanionCube> this might be bad
L492[16:19:25] <gamax92> hah, parliament
L493[16:19:58] <CompanionCube> iirc it makes ISPs log traffic. All of it. Haven't read it myself though, it's 23 pages of legal jargon
L494[16:20:45] <Shuudoushi> CompanionCube: encrypt or shit
L495[16:20:55] <Shuudoushi> issue resolved
L496[16:21:25] <dangranos> i think there is a law like that in russia
L497[16:21:44] <Shuudoushi> no, but there is one like that in China
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L501[16:23:26] <dangranos> oh
L502[16:23:51] <dangranos> iirc, there is law that forces everybody to store logs at least 6 months
L503[16:23:58] <dangranos> or something like that
L504[16:26:08] <CompanionCube> dangranos, not of every single packet
L505[16:26:18] <dangranos> not sure about that
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L507[16:26:49] <Shuudoushi> lulz
L508[16:26:58] <Shuudoushi> if they want logs of every last packet
L509[16:27:10] <Shuudoushi> they're fucked XD
L510[16:27:42] <Shuudoushi> ISPs simply can't get the storage space needed for something like that in a timely manner
L511[16:28:43] * dangranos thinks of best way to overflow ISP's logs
L512[16:29:09] <CompanionCube> dangranos, DDoS of your own server?
L513[16:31:05] <dangranos> lol, i opened two cleverbots
L514[16:31:13] <dangranos> they are stuck in loop of "Saturday, what is your favourite day of the week?Э
L515[16:31:17] <dangranos> *"
L516[16:31:20] <Shuudoushi> or you could just bring the servers to their knees and launch a ipv6 flood on them
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L519[16:37:28] <dangranos> thats scary
L520[16:37:38] <dangranos> cleverbot was more bot-like earlier
L521[16:39:54] <Shuudoushi> I'm going to set this program aside for, and go bust my knuckles on my car for a little bit...
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L523[16:40:20] <Shuudoushi> s/aside for/aside for now
L524[16:40:20] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> I'm going to set this program aside for now, and go bust my knuckles on my car for a little bit...
L525[16:41:32] <ShadowKatStudios> I still have no idea what that ME!ME!ME! video is about
L526[16:41:42] <ShadowKatStudios> but the music is awesome
L527[16:41:49] <Shuudoushi> then you suck
L528[16:42:09] <Shuudoushi> but no, it's just a good short film, that's all lol
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L530[16:43:29] <dangranos> how to loop cleverbot: "Saturday, what is your favourite day of the week?"
L531[16:43:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Kill one and insert some random conversation, then start the other one again
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L534[16:44:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I love X11 forwarding.
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L542[16:54:27] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: forwarding ?
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L544[16:54:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: Using X11 over SSH
L545[16:54:44] <Negi> Oh that
L546[16:54:50] <Negi> I never figured out how to use it.
L547[16:55:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Configure sshd to do X11 forwarding, then use the X flag for the client
L548[16:55:15] *** Kasen is now known as rakiru|offline
L549[16:55:29] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: So only UNIX-to-UNIX ?
L550[16:56:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Uhm, there's X servers for Mac and Windows, but no xf86 for anything but Unix
L551[16:56:56] <Negi> xf86 ?
L552[16:57:08] <Negi> And I more meant that as
L553[16:57:24] <Negi> "Is there any ssh clients on Windows that handle that ?"
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L555[17:00:21] *** Kasen is now known as rakiru|offline
L556[17:00:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: Dunno, haven't tried.
L557[17:00:59] <ShadowKatStudios> xf86 = X free x86
L558[17:01:03] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L559[17:01:17] <ShadowKatStudios> The X11 and OSS drivers usually packaged with Linux
L560[17:01:26] <Negi> Oh
L561[17:01:49] <Negi> T h a t .
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L567[17:15:59] <CompanionCube> Xming works well for X-forwarding on Windows.
L568[17:16:11] * CompanionCube has used it for X11 forwarding on his rpi
L569[17:16:27] <Caitlyn> I use x2go..
L570[17:16:42] *** Kasen is now known as rakiru|offline
L571[17:19:11] <dangranos> i want to install FxOS
L572[17:20:50] <Negi> CompanionCube: I need a portable server actually, that's why I'm struggling.
L573[17:20:57] <Negi> (I'd be using Cygwin/X else)
L574[17:22:47] <Pwootage> nice http://i.imgur.com/gnIHPA4.jpg
L575[17:23:43] <Caitlyn> lol, I aliased agi to sudo apt-get install
L576[17:24:35] <vifino> I aliased just to sudo, and linked fucking to apt.
L577[17:24:43] <vifino> just fucking install stuff
L578[17:25:07] <dangranos> genius
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L580[17:26:28] <Caitlyn> yay... webmin now has a legit cert for no reason other than why not.
L581[17:29:00] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L582[17:33:58] <Negi> Waddafi
L583[17:34:19] <Negi> CompanionCube: What version of Xming are you using ?
L584[17:35:30] <ShadowKatStudios> argh, once again I can't sleep
L585[17:35:45] <Pwootage> alias is the best shell thing ever
L586[17:36:09] <CompanionCube> Negi, none
L587[17:36:15] * CompanionCube is a linux user now
L588[17:36:21] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: That is amazing.
L589[17:36:23] <Pwootage> CompanionCube: :O
L590[17:36:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Argh
L591[17:36:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I guess no sleep = writing...
L592[17:36:43] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Hue :3
L593[17:36:53] <CompanionCube> The last time I booted Windows was when I needed to RDP in to a remote computer
L594[17:36:58] <CompanionCube> RDP works best on windows imho
L595[17:37:00] <Pwootage> My goal in life is to turn all my friends into linux users
L596[17:37:07] <Pwootage> although free win10 makes this more difficult
L597[17:37:23] <ShadowKatStudios> The last time I used Windows was two days ago when I wanted to play skyrim
L598[17:37:24] <CompanionCube> Pwootage, I will certainly upgrading my winvista to win10 if I can
L599[17:37:36] <Pwootage> on the other hand, win10 has more linux features which might help people transition
L600[17:37:51] * dangranos STAAAAAAAAAABS Pwootage
L601[17:37:55] <Pwootage> well yeah I'm going to be upgrading my windows partition too, I still use it to play several games that don't run on linux
L602[17:38:08] <Pwootage> Oh no, I've been STAAAAAAAAAABed!
L603[17:38:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Is there any good reason to upgrade to W10 from W7 before 2020?
L604[17:38:27] <dangranos> ^
L605[17:38:38] <Pwootage> uh yes, because it's free
L606[17:38:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Because it's new?
L607[17:38:56] <dangranos> fre?
L608[17:38:58] <Pwootage> The network stack is much better in win8/10
L609[17:38:58] <ShadowKatStudios> I'd personally like less metro and integration with Xbox with my Windows, thank you.
L610[17:38:59] <dangranos> *free?
L611[17:39:01] <dangranos> wuuut
L612[17:39:06] *** LordFokas|off is now known as LordFokas
L613[17:39:06] <bananagram> there might be more support
L614[17:39:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Did they steal more BSD code? :P
L615[17:39:24] <Pwootage> I don't have metro or xbox integration on win8, I doubt win10 will have anything more
L616[17:39:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Pwootage: Were you watching the demo?
L617[17:39:43] <Pwootage> not recently
L618[17:39:51] <ShadowKatStudios> On the upside, Metro can be windowed now.
L619[17:40:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, there was a lot of Xbox <insert normal computer function> in the demo last night
L620[17:40:13] <Pwootage> but the tech preview I installed ages ago had multiple desktops and a copy/paste/transparent-able command prompt
L621[17:40:16] <Pwootage> so that was pretty good
L622[17:40:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Is it a proper terminal emulator and does it have ssh?
L623[17:40:35] <Pwootage> if win10 had cortana that'd be neat... cortana seems to work well but windows phones suck
L624[17:40:36] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: Just like 8. Xbox music, Xbox videos and Xbox games.
L625[17:40:52] <Pwootage> ShadowKatStudios: no. It's still the crappy windows command prompt but hey at least you can copy/paste
L626[17:40:58] <CompanionCube> I know what apps I'll be disabling.
L627[17:40:58] <dangranos> http://xkcd.com/910/
L628[17:41:02] <CompanionCube> Xbox * = disabled
L629[17:41:02] <dangranos> sks, this is yours
L630[17:41:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Pwootage: They were using Cortana on W10 on the demo
L631[17:41:09] <Pwootage> awsome
L632[17:41:28] <Negi> Let's get it clear : cmd is destabilizing when you're used to bash, and PS is just SLOOOOOBROOO
L633[17:41:48] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: But... Lain, Nagato, Tsugumi and Sakeko are good names!
L634[17:41:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Also Shiro
L635[17:42:06] <Pwootage> windows will never be as good as linux unless they implement enough of posix to run linux things on windows without rewriting them
L636[17:42:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Damnit, Shiro isn't mine, so I always forget her
L637[17:42:15] <CompanionCube> Pwootage, so
L638[17:42:26] <CompanionCube> basically a POSIX subsystem for the NT Kernel?
L639[17:42:27] <Pwootage> Oh, and go open-source
L640[17:42:31] <dangranos> SKS, i didnt said its bad, i just said that this strip is perfect for you
L641[17:42:36] <ShadowKatStudios> It would have been awesome if BeOS kept going- it was mostly POSIX
L642[17:42:36] <Pwootage> CompanionCube: I know one existed ages ago but it was dropped afaik
L643[17:42:43] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: Oh, yes, it is very important.
L644[17:42:52] <CompanionCube> Pwootage, they 'deprecated' it
L645[17:42:54] <CompanionCube> >POSIX
L646[17:42:59] <CompanionCube> >deprecated
L647[17:43:10] <CompanionCube> MS, you're doing it wrong
L648[17:43:21] <Pwootage> Every other OS I can think of supports the same OS api >.>
L649[17:43:36] <dangranos> http://xkcd.com/907/
L650[17:43:38] <dangranos> T_T
L651[17:43:46] <CompanionCube> Pwootage, iirc it was completely removed in Windows Server 2012 R2
L652[17:43:53] <Pwootage> even the ARM OS I am going to write is going to be partially POSIX compliant
L653[17:43:55] <ShadowKatStudios> BeOS was cool because it had SMP-optomised features, a window manager that still beats every stacking WM in existance, and it was POSIX-ish
L654[17:44:07] <Negi> Pwootage: Afaik Windows is the only non-POSIX-supporting shit 'round this planet.
L655[17:44:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Also an OS designed to have a GUI
L656[17:44:23] <CompanionCube> Negi, what about all the hobbyist OSes
L657[17:44:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Every OS with more than 100 users.
L658[17:44:40] <Pwootage> yeah the windows kernel has the gui integrated in it (or at least win7-age it did, presumably it still does)
L659[17:44:42] <ShadowKatStudios> And for anything > 16-bit
L660[17:44:43] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, current or present?
L661[17:44:51] <Negi> Thanks ShadowKatStudios for correcting me \o
L662[17:44:55] * CompanionCube was going to point out acorn or something
L663[17:45:09] <ShadowKatStudios> CompanionCube: RISC OS was cool, but it's not used any more
L664[17:45:18] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, I mean older than that
L665[17:45:25] <Caitlyn> the Server-Core stuff is GUI-less
L666[17:45:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Arthur?
L667[17:45:28] <Negi> Pwootage: Afaik it still does.
L668[17:45:32] <CompanionCube> Caitlyn, orly?
L669[17:45:43] <Negi> AVR BOMB ATTACK ON CompanionCube !
L670[17:45:45] <CompanionCube> does it has window borders or anything like that?
L671[17:45:54] <Pwootage> Linux, BSD, OSX are the three major OS's that arn't windows, all are posix-ish
L672[17:46:06] <Pwootage> (in terms of user-base)
L673[17:46:14] <ShadowKatStudios> There aren't many programs for Windows that will happily run without a GUI though
L674[17:46:39] <Pwootage> the hardest thing to explain to a windows user is why grep is so useful
L675[17:46:39] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: batch scripts woo \o/
L676[17:46:49] <Pwootage> (well that and what the | key means)
L677[17:46:50] <Caitlyn> Well.. I mean you get a command prompt.. but there is no "shell"
L678[17:46:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: Can you write a httpd in batch?
L679[17:46:57] <CompanionCube> Server Core isn't even properly GUI-less or fully-featured is it?
L680[17:47:12] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: No but you can use Bottle and Python for that.
L681[17:47:19] <Pwootage> WIndows server runs a gui, and you can't turn it off
L682[17:47:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Y'know, cause IIS is GUI
L683[17:47:42] <Pwootage> IIS also sucks
L684[17:48:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Indeed.
L685[17:48:07] <Pwootage> imo it's better/faster to learn something that isn't c# and write it in that
L686[17:48:19] <Pwootage> (well I really like scala/java play framework for web stuff)
L687[17:48:41] <Caitlyn> Except, I'm pretty sure you don't get the IIS gui, cause no MMC therefore no snapins
L688[17:48:50] <vifino> I wish I could compile clojure down to native binaries.
L689[17:48:57] <vifino> Like, an embedded jvm.
L690[17:49:53] <Pwootage> Languages I need to try: Haskell, lisp(s), clojure
L691[17:50:04] <vifino> Pwootage: clojure is a lisp
L692[17:50:12] <Caitlyn> http://www.iis.net/learn/install/installing-iis-7/install-and-configure-iis-on-server-core installing IIS on core, there is exactly one gui you get, and that's while installing windows, everything else is command line
L693[17:50:15] <Pwootage> yeah I suppose it is
L694[17:50:37] <Pwootage> well ab k later, gotta go to school
L695[17:50:40] <ShadowKatStudios> >You are about to close 146 tabs, are you sure you want to continue?
L696[17:50:47] <Pwootage> s/a bk/back/
L697[17:51:00] <Pwootage> ShadowKatStudios: I had a friend with > 400 at one point
L698[17:51:02] <dangranos> s/ab k/back
L699[17:51:02] <Kibibyte> <Pwootage> well back later, gotta go to school
L700[17:51:14] <ShadowKatStudios> This is my laptop, it has notably less tabs than my desktop
L701[17:51:19] * CompanionCube has the tab limiter set at '6#
L702[17:51:45] <CompanionCube> I've found this to be okay. Not too small, not too big.
L703[17:52:35] <ShadowKatStudios> http://shadowkat.tk/projects/psyche/browse.php?id=4 favourite quote
L704[17:53:20] <Negi> OMG ShadowKatStudios don't scare me like that with style changes/additions
L705[17:53:26] * Negi jumps.
L706[17:53:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: What do you mean? Chrome user?
L707[17:54:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Because I recently re-wrote my CSS to work on !=Firefox
L708[17:54:47] <Negi> Yeah Chromium.
L709[17:54:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Still broken in links2, but y'know
L710[17:55:00] <Negi> ( "Chrome just like your mum" )
L711[17:55:21] <vifino> ... Wut?
L712[17:55:35] * Negi <3 bottle.py & Python standard lib's webbrowser module
L713[17:56:01] <dangranos> chrome=chromium=opera(>=15)
L714[17:56:08] <vifino> ¬_¬ python can go die in a fire
L715[17:56:09] <dangranos> :P
L716[17:56:13] <dangranos> bye
L717[17:56:15] <dangranos> sleep
L718[17:56:17] *** Techokami|Off is now known as Techokami
L719[17:56:25] <vifino> dangranos: Only because they use webkit does not mean they are equal.
L720[17:56:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Bye dangranos
L721[17:56:34] <vifino> Because safari uses webkit too.
L722[17:56:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Opera is weird
L723[17:56:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Safari is fucked
L724[17:56:51] <Negi> vifino: Python is an abstract object technically, it can't die into fire. Tho /you/ can.
L725[17:56:59] <vifino> :<
L726[17:57:09] <Negi> Yeah don't be mean with snakes :I
L727[17:57:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Maybe the reason I can't sleep is something to do with the fact I'm listening to the ME!ME!ME! song on repeat
L728[17:57:59] ⇦ Quits: dangranos (~dangranos@37.23.136.181) (Remote host closed the connection)
L729[17:59:11] <ShadowKatStudios> I need to get stickers for my lkjh keys with arrows on them
L730[18:01:15] *** Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off
L731[18:01:21] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: Are you paying anything for your domain name (since, yannow, it's a .tk, and afaik those are free or really cheap ?)
L732[18:01:32] <ShadowKatStudios> ._. Somehow I ended up writing a rant into my story
L733[18:01:32] <asie> .tk is free
L734[18:01:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: Mine is free.
L735[18:01:46] <ShadowKatStudios> For another 8 months, anyway
L736[18:02:03] <Negi> 8 months
L737[18:02:04] <Negi> ?
L738[18:02:11] <ShadowKatStudios> 12 months of free domain
L739[18:02:21] <ShadowKatStudios> then you have to pay
L740[18:02:45] <Alissa> I got programming.ml and programming.ga for free \:D/
L741[18:02:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I assume to rope in those people who use links to other pages on their site like http://site.example.com/stuff/blah/
L742[18:03:43] <ShadowKatStudios> s/com/tk
L743[18:03:43] <Kibibyte> <ShadowKatStudios> I assume to rope in those people who use links to other pages on their site like http://site.example.tk/stuff/blah/
L744[18:04:52] <Negi> Imma need to sing a bit before my voice goes completely off ._.
L745[18:07:01] *** skyem123|away is now known as skyem123
L746[18:11:17] ⇦ Quits: tattyseal (~tattyseal@95.144.48.41) (Quit: Leaving)
L747[18:13:19] *** Shuudoushi|Away is now known as Shuudoushi
L748[18:15:53] *** Daiyousei is now known as ShoweringFairy
L749[18:17:16] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, no free renewals?
L750[18:17:29] <ShadowKatStudios> From what I gather, no.
L751[18:18:51] <Alissa> ShadowKatStudios: Does it keep the domain stored if you don't renew it, or can another service use it after?
L752[18:19:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Dunno.
L753[18:19:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Not an issue for me, I'm gonna get a proper domain within the next year
L754[18:19:59] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, you can renew it
L755[18:19:59] <CompanionCube> For FREE domain names you can register domains for 1 to 12 months. You can renew FREE domain names in the last 15 days of each registration period - 15 days before the expiration date
L756[18:20:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Ohcool, that works.
L757[18:21:24] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, also
L758[18:21:35] <CompanionCube> Stary2001 might get rekt
L759[18:21:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm?
L760[18:21:55] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, tell SKS :p
L761[18:24:00] ⇨ Joins: XP (webchat@114-37-159-51.dynamic.hinet.net)
L762[18:26:52] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: i ha(ve|d) glype on my server
L763[18:27:01] <Stary2001> apparently the it ppl at school know
L764[18:27:08] <ShadowKatStudios> glype?
L765[18:27:22] <Stary2001> and the last person running a proxy got permanently excluded
L766[18:27:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Oooh, proxy of some sort?
L767[18:27:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Heh, I see where this is going
L768[18:28:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Have fun.
L769[18:28:21] ⇦ Quits: v^|cold (~pixel@2601:4:680:104c:f855:d6f3:55e1:649f) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L770[18:28:23] <CompanionCube> And Stary2001's personal details are on that domain's whois
L771[18:28:24] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, ^
L772[18:28:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Ooohboy
L773[18:28:56] * CompanionCube is glad to hide behind dot.tk and cloudns
L774[18:29:08] <Stary2001> ikr
L775[18:29:22] ⇦ Quits: XP (webchat@114-37-159-51.dynamic.hinet.net) (Ping timeout: 186 seconds)
L776[18:29:27] <ShadowKatStudios> When I properly register a domain, I'll use the name "Izaya Orihara"
L777[18:29:37] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, they wouldn't be able to conclusively prove the domains are mine.
L778[18:29:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I just realised- my about page is blank
L779[18:30:01] ⇨ Joins: ping (~pixel@2601:4:680:104c:c087:4c03:9978:c72f)
L780[18:30:02] zsh sets mode: +v on ping
L781[18:30:16] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: my it teacher tipped off one of my friends as to this
L782[18:30:20] <Stary2001> so..yeah :p
L783[18:30:31] <Kilobyte> Stary2001: ur rekt
L784[18:30:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Fun.
L785[18:30:36] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, hopefully the admins aren't BOFHs.
L786[18:30:44] <CompanionCube> BOFHs look for any excuse to utterly rek a user.
L787[18:30:55] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, ^ agree?
L788[18:31:07] <Stary2001> mhm
L789[18:31:42] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, tuxedo_jack once suggested explusion
L790[18:31:56] <Stary2001> lol
L791[18:31:57] <Stary2001> fun
L792[18:32:04] <CompanionCube> ....so he could achieve his ulterior motive of aquiring a PFY
L793[18:32:20] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, ^
L794[18:32:37] *** Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L795[18:32:45] <Stary2001> ha
L796[18:32:49] <ShadowKatStudios> CompanionCube: If I knew my IT admin would pull that I would totally try to get myself expelled on IT grounds
L797[18:32:57] <Kilobyte> Stary2001: there is no proof the proxy ever existed.
L798[18:33:09] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, archive.org
L799[18:33:13] <CompanionCube> google's cache
L800[18:33:44] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: "Page cannot be crawled or displayed due to robots.txt."
L801[18:33:55] <CompanionCube> oh, sweet
L802[18:33:59] * Stary2001 thanks past self for setting up robots
L803[18:34:05] <Caitlyn> lol
L804[18:34:21] <Pwootage> well it's not exactly hard
L805[18:34:21] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, your 'friends' or lusers might confess.
L806[18:34:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Future self: I hope you appreciate what I have done.
L807[18:34:52] <Stary2001> heh
L808[18:34:58] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, what have you done
L809[18:35:00] <Stary2001> CompanionCube: lusers will
L810[18:35:05] <CompanionCube> that's worthy of appreciation
L811[18:35:24] <Pwootage> http://xkcd.com/1421/
L812[18:36:13] <Negi> And that's why I don't connect to my laptop while going through the school's proxy.
L813[18:37:06] <Kilobyte> Stary2001: a particular luser i suspect
L814[18:37:12] <Stary2001> ha, ashby
L815[18:37:13] <Kilobyte> i assume you know who i mean
L816[18:37:13] <Stary2001> nah
L817[18:37:15] <Kilobyte> yes
L818[18:37:21] <Stary2001> he can be *cough* fixed
L819[18:37:26] <Kilobyte> oh right
L820[18:37:50] <CompanionCube> if all else fails, say it's another zek
L821[18:38:08] <Stary2001> there's only one of me in school
L822[18:38:33] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, who says the whois details are valid, and that the actual hoster is elsewhere?
L823[18:38:38] <Stary2001> :p
L824[18:38:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Is it bad that I built a copy of that program that crashed Windows machines on an IPv6 network on my laptop?
L825[18:38:57] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, it also does shit with macs
L826[18:39:02] <CompanionCube> makes them freeze or something
L827[18:39:14] <CompanionCube> (flood_router26 right?)
L828[18:39:17] <Pwootage> lol
L829[18:39:24] <Stary2001> heh
L830[18:39:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Yep.
L831[18:39:39] <ShadowKatStudios> (forgot the name, it's buried in my downloads)
L832[18:40:41] <Kilobyte> its fun tm
L833[18:40:58] <Kilobyte> my network is also vuln as of today (aka i enabled IPv6 in LAN)
L834[18:41:28] <Stary2001> was always vuln
L835[18:41:29] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, but does it have any winderps or macs in it?
L836[18:41:32] <ShadowKatStudios> The ethernet network for my LAN has IPv6. The Windows machines use WiFi
L837[18:41:32] <Stary2001> uses router advertisements, Kilobyte
L838[18:41:35] <Stary2001> haha
L839[18:41:48] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: losedows, yes
L840[18:41:54] <Kilobyte> but those aren't mine
L841[18:41:55] <CompanionCube> ah
L842[18:41:56] <Kilobyte> xD
L843[18:41:56] <Pwootage> ™ is what you're looking for
L844[18:42:02] <Kilobyte> er ShadowKatStudios ^
L845[18:42:04] <CompanionCube> it would practically be not vuln if you only had losedows
L846[18:42:05] <Kilobyte> wait no
L847[18:42:08] <Kilobyte> i am fail
L848[18:42:22] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: i only have linux
L849[18:42:27] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, ah
L850[18:42:34] <CompanionCube> so it's practically not vuln
L851[18:43:03] <Kilobyte> my parents are dual boot (dad uses linux primarily, mum windows xp (aka no ipv6 for her)) sis win7
L852[18:43:41] <Kilobyte> her laptop can't run anything past xp and linux has issues with wifi
L853[18:43:47] <Pwootage> My dad bought an imac cuz he was tired of windows (and is rich/got a deal through work)
L854[18:43:48] <ShadowKatStudios> The only Windows machines on my ethernet are XP or alternatively, my desktop dual-boots 7
L855[18:44:10] <Kilobyte> which is weird, because the very same wifi dongle worked fine with my pi
L856[18:44:13] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, does flood_router26 work wired -> wireless?
L857[18:44:19] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: why not?
L858[18:44:30] <Kilobyte> it uses broadcast
L859[18:44:34] <CompanionCube> my brother runs losedows...
L860[18:44:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Got plans, CompanionCube?
L861[18:44:59] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, not yet
L862[18:45:04] <CompanionCube> but might be handy in the future...
L863[18:45:54] <CompanionCube> I can already in theory reserve him a DHCP IP from the 127.0.0.0/8 block
L864[18:45:56] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, ^
L865[18:46:08] <Pwootage> Uh, that sounds like it might not end well
L866[18:46:27] <CompanionCube> Pwootage, that's the point :>
L867[18:46:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Is that so?
L868[18:46:41] <Pwootage> THat's something I've never tried... for good reason, I suppose :P
L869[18:46:52] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, Sky's web interface doesn't properly validate your choice of IP
L870[18:46:58] <CompanionCube> iirc it only blocks 127.0.0.1
L871[18:47:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm, I never thought of abusing DHCP like that- next time my sister is streaming...
L872[18:47:27] <Pwootage> ShadowKatStudios: problem: dhcp renewal times are not that quick
L873[18:47:37] <CompanionCube> Pwootage, solution: reboot the fucker
L874[18:47:48] <Pwootage> True, windows should re-ask for an IP
L875[18:48:18] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, it will only work if someone derped the validation code
L876[18:48:30] <CompanionCube> by forgetting the entire /8 is loopback, not just 0.0.1
L877[18:49:37] *** skyem123 is now known as skyem123|away
L878[18:49:58] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, Kilobyte ^&
L879[18:50:08] <Stary2001> xD yuup
L880[18:50:09] * Negi <3 http://terminal.sexy/
L881[18:50:34] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: LOL
L882[18:50:53] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, I dunno if their actual dhcpcd is the same
L883[18:51:00] <CompanionCube> I'd need to look at the source code
L884[18:51:34] <CompanionCube> s/cd/d
L885[18:51:34] <Kibibyte> <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, I dunno if their actual dhcpd is the same
L886[18:51:42] <CompanionCube> cd is the client daemon, dammit
L887[18:51:53] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, Kilobyte ^
L888[18:51:59] <Kilobyte> yes it is
L889[18:52:15] <Kilobyte> Negi: that page successfully froze firefox for 10 sec
L890[18:52:23] * CompanionCube corrected hiself
L891[18:52:53] <Pwootage> Do I dare go to that domain?
L892[18:53:04] <ShadowKatStudios> no
L893[18:53:04] <Caitlyn> chrome didn't even stutter :P
L894[18:53:06] <ShadowKatStudios> nsfw
L895[18:53:17] <ShadowKatStudios> too many sexy terminal colours
L896[18:53:38] <Kilobyte> Caitlyn: i have a lot of tabs open :P
L897[18:53:47] <Kilobyte> also chrome is bad. if anything use chromium.
L898[18:53:54] <Caitlyn> No.
L899[18:53:55] *** AtomSponge|away is now known as AtomSponge
L900[18:54:05] <Pwootage> that is one of the smoothest running websites I've seen, nice
L901[18:54:25] <Negi> I use Chromium tbh and it works ok
L902[18:54:26] <Pwootage> Chrome is chromium + flash + drm management (so you can watch netflix) >.>
L903[18:54:45] <Negi> - "+ flash"
L904[18:54:47] <Pwootage> well I use chromium sometimes because archlinux
L905[18:54:51] <Negi> Chromium comes with it too afaik.
L906[18:55:01] <Sangar> evening o/
L907[18:55:03] <Pwootage> Chromium didn't come with flash last I checked
L908[18:55:06] <Pwootage> Evening o/
L909[18:55:07] * ShadowKatStudios says something about Firefox 3.6
L910[18:55:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Hello, Sangar.
L911[18:55:19] <Negi> Helloweenie.
L912[18:55:51] <Kilobyte> Pwootage: because googles flash is propietary. You can extract it from chrome though and stuff it into chromium if you really want
L913[18:55:56] <Sangar> why would you say hello to my...
L914[18:56:07] <Kilobyte> chrome is based on chromium
L915[18:56:11] <Pwootage> That's what I thought
L916[18:56:13] <Kilobyte> latter is open source
L917[18:56:28] <Pwootage> Like I said, chrome is literally chromium + some proprietary bits
L918[18:56:36] <ShadowKatStudios> + botnet
L919[18:56:39] <Kilobyte> thats why i prefer chromium
L920[18:56:42] <ShadowKatStudios> SCNR
L921[18:56:59] <Kilobyte> still, firefox is best imo
L922[18:57:08] <Pwootage> I like to watch netflix and occasionally need flash
L923[18:57:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Who uses flash anymore anyway? (Besides Microsoft)
L924[18:57:12] <Pwootage> I hate flash
L925[18:57:14] <CompanionCube> my chromium has flash
L926[18:57:18] <Pwootage> it needs to die a horrible death
L927[18:57:18] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, some games websites
L928[18:57:19] <Sangar> is there something like pentadactyl for chromium?
L929[18:57:26] <CompanionCube> but yes, it needs to die in a fire
L930[18:57:30] <ShadowKatStudios> CompanionCube: Flash games? Ahaaahahahahahaaha
L931[18:57:35] <Negi> Pwootage: U still have terminal.sexy open ?
L932[18:57:41] <Pwootage> Negi: not anymore, why?
L933[18:57:41] <Kilobyte> also, chromium on windows is a pain xD
L934[18:57:55] <Kilobyte> because i have no clue where to get binaries
L935[18:58:01] <Pwootage> I havn't used chromium other than pacman -Sy chromium
L936[18:58:08] <Kilobyte> and compiling chromium.... takes a LOT of ram
L937[18:58:16] <Kilobyte> iirc google suggests 24 GB
L938[18:58:20] <Pwootage> lol wow
L939[18:58:37] <Kilobyte> either lots of RAM or lots of swap
L940[18:58:49] <Pwootage> Oop train ride is pretty much over, I'll be back soonish
L941[18:58:55] * CompanionCube has considered getting a 1TB external HDD and adding it to his btrfs
L942[18:59:02] <Pwootage> that is a slow compile on swap... D:
L943[18:59:07] <Kilobyte> ikr
L944[18:59:09] * ShadowKatStudios has a 1TB external HDD
L945[18:59:14] * ShadowKatStudios stores anime on it
L946[18:59:21] * Kilobyte has 4 TB external HDD
L947[18:59:21] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, that would be a win use of btrfs yesyes?
L948[18:59:25] <ShadowKatStudios> this anime may or may not be hidden somewhere on lain
L949[18:59:34] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: i would use a seperate volume though
L950[18:59:44] <Kilobyte> so you can boot without external HDD
L951[18:59:49] *** Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off
L952[18:59:52] <Negi> Pwootage: Template Browser > /vim/default/lua <3
L953[18:59:55] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, perhaps subvolume?
L954[19:00:11] <Negi> Craps
L955[19:00:16] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: nah, you can't have a subvol on another drive
L956[19:00:20] <CompanionCube> :(
L957[19:00:27] <Kilobyte> just format it and mount it somewhere
L958[19:00:31] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, what if I didn't balance it
L959[19:00:34] <Kilobyte> my ext hdd is in /mnt/hdd
L960[19:00:35] <Kilobyte> err
L961[19:00:43] <CompanionCube> would I still be able to use the external without needing it for boot
L962[19:00:43] <Kilobyte> * /mnt/btrfs
L963[19:01:04] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: btrfs will bitch at you and refuse to mount with a raid volume missing
L964[19:01:13] <Kilobyte> unless you mount it with option "degraded"
L965[19:01:16] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, ah
L966[19:01:35] <CompanionCube> so essentially, a new filesystem that has an 'auto' entry in fstab?
L967[19:01:37] <Kilobyte> thats mainly so you notice when a raid device breaks
L968[19:01:44] <Kilobyte> yeah
L969[19:03:10] <Kilobyte> grep /mnt/btrfs /etc/fstab
L970[19:03:12] <Kilobyte> UUID=b849e746-7de9-485a-95f7-eba1f2a9769c /mnt/btrfs btrfs rw,user,relatime,space_cache,exec,nofail,nosuid,nodev 0 0
L971[19:03:16] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: mount line for ext drive
L972[19:03:33] <Kilobyte> also, it does automount
L973[19:03:40] <CompanionCube> because systemd?
L974[19:03:40] <Kilobyte> idk how i set that up anymore though
L975[19:03:43] <Kilobyte> probably
L976[19:04:06] <Kilobyte> yeah i think systemd does that without being configured even
L977[19:04:32] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: also, fucking set nosuid and nodev
L978[19:04:38] <Kilobyte> or you can get rekt pretty easily
L979[19:04:41] <Negi> These schemes are almost colorporn.
L980[19:05:51] * CompanionCube has half-temptation to write a quick, basic coop multitasking lib
L981[19:07:00] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, ^
L982[19:07:16] <Stary2001> lolo
L983[19:08:14] <CompanionCube> i.e it would first initialise all coroutines into a data structure, including a special management coroutine and then loop through all coroutines
L984[19:08:24] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, ^
L985[19:15:45] <Vexatos> Sangar, you here?
L986[19:16:09] <Vexatos> Is there anything special you need to do when having a TE implementing SimpleComponent, ManagedPeripheral?
L987[19:16:16] *** ShoweringFairy is now known as Daiyousei
L988[19:16:17] <Vexatos> anything special to register it?
L989[19:21:09] <Sangar> Vexatos, no, i don't think so.
L990[19:21:17] <Vexatos> k
L991[19:21:51] <Vexatos> Btw, Sangar, some interface like "SidedPeripheral extends ManagedPeripheral" that has canConnect(side) would be nice
L992[19:22:06] <Sangar> hmhm
L993[19:22:07] <Vexatos> Because then it's have 100% of the way CC does it re-done
L994[19:22:15] <Vexatos> that's the only thing it is lacking
L995[19:22:20] <Vexatos> you cannot make it not connect
L996[19:22:25] <Sangar> right
L997[19:22:43] <Vexatos> (side) so you can have it side-specific
L998[19:22:47] <Vexatos> the rest already is in the TE
L999[19:22:57] <Vexatos> and make it simply return a boolean
L1000[19:22:57] <Sangar> yeah. open an issue.
L1001[19:23:02] <Vexatos> should be very easy to do
L1002[19:23:02] <Vexatos> k
L1003[19:23:16] <Vexatos> Btw, Sangar, I am almost done with my MuseScore plugin
L1004[19:23:18] <Vexatos> Hurr hurr
L1005[19:23:30] *** skyem123|away is now known as skyem123
L1006[19:24:24] <Sangar> oo, automatic fancy music?
L1007[19:25:48] <Dashkal> Has anybody else ever noticed OC eating significant cpu for computers/server racks that are off? I'm not yet ready to report a bug here, just doing initial investigation.
L1008[19:26:06] <Dashkal> (Opis often ends up blaming the wrong thing)
L1009[19:27:27] <Vexatos> Sangar: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/844
L1010[19:27:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, well, uhhhh
L1011[19:28:07] <Vexatos> musescore->Beep card using a mouse click sounded so convenient
L1012[19:28:22] <Sangar> Dashkal, hmm, computers idk, server racks also act as power distributors, and switches and so on, so they might be a bit heavier... then again, power distribution only ticks every now and then.
L1013[19:28:44] <Sangar> Vexatos, indeed it does :P
L1014[19:28:51] <Vexatos> Sangar, btw, why are you initializing all the computer stuff when starting a computer in the world for the first time?
L1015[19:28:52] <Dashkal> The report I got from Opis was highly out of line. Something was misbehaving. Like an off computer eating tens of milliseconds.
L1016[19:29:23] <Vexatos> Everytime you restart the server it's locking the server thread for 3-5 seconds, why can't you initialize all your stuff at some other point=
L1017[19:29:33] <Vexatos> like on server startup?
L1018[19:29:53] <Dashkal> I've never seen anything like that before, so I suspect I had something bad on the network, or related to the AP/network cards or some such. But I couldn't pin it down. Will investigate more tonight/over the weekend.
L1019[19:30:37] <Sangar> Dashkal, hmm, they shouldn't be doing much of anything while off. if it's reproducible, mind seeing if it also happens when they're "isolated" (no other oc blocks next to them, no redstone triggering, etc)? thanks.
L1020[19:30:48] <Dashkal> For all I know it's been fixed since >.> I upgraded since then, but I forgot until just now and am asking while it's on my mind.
L1021[19:30:54] <Dashkal> Will do
L1022[19:31:00] <CompanionCube> https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20150122/05045429774/blackberry-ceo-thinks-net-neutrality-laws-should-force-developers-to-make-apps-his-struggling-platform.shtml
L1023[19:31:03] <CompanionCube> ahah, not how it works
L1024[19:31:12] <Vexatos> Sangar...?
L1025[19:31:25] <Sangar> Vexatos, uhh, i only know that it can take a bit the first time, because that's when it's loading the sounds for the first time, after that i never experienced any lag
L1026[19:32:02] *** manmaed is now known as manmaed|AFK
L1027[19:32:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, only the first time you start a computer on a server
L1028[19:32:12] <Vexatos> after you reload the server
L1029[19:32:26] <Vexatos> so in SSP, everytime you enter the world and start a computer
L1030[19:32:35] <Sangar> ah, real server :P
L1031[19:32:36] <Vexatos> or immediately after joining if a computer is still running
L1032[19:32:38] <Vexatos> Yes
L1033[19:32:42] <Vexatos> MC server
L1034[19:32:56] <Vexatos> it locks the server thread for 3-5 seconds
L1035[19:33:08] <Vexatos> couldn't you initialize all the things you do in there on server start?
L1036[19:33:40] <Sangar> hrm, i'm not sure what even would block that long on a server... i thought it was the sound loading on the client. guess it's something else then? will have a look.
L1037[19:34:07] <Dashkal> Minecraft, learn to load assets off-thread damnit! It's not that hard! *sighs*
L1038[19:34:12] <Vexatos> Sangar, well, my computer is slow as hell
L1039[19:34:24] <Vexatos> so whatever you are initializing, please initialize it on server load
L1040[19:34:28] <Dashkal> See also year long startup times when loading a heavy resource pack.
L1041[19:34:33] <Vexatos> sounds also should be loaded earlier
L1042[19:34:54] <Sangar> sounds: well, yeah. but priorities and such >_>
L1043[19:35:23] <Dashkal> It's the sounds? That explains some things. I was wondering why I always got a client lock on first boot.
L1044[19:36:00] <Vexatos> everyone gets this lock
L1045[19:36:17] <Vexatos> it should be done in either loading or server start, Sangar
L1046[19:36:18] <Dashkal> I figured. Was never long enough to be a problem, and only happens once per login.
L1047[19:36:29] <Vexatos> I'd recommend postInit or LoadComplete
L1048[19:36:49] <Dashkal> The only perf issue I'm concerned with is my server one, and I just need to remember to properly test that.
L1049[19:37:04] <Sangar> Vexatos, make a pr? pwetty please? >_>
L1050[19:38:08] <Vexatos> Sangar, I have no idea what you are initializing where
L1051[19:38:10] <Vexatos> so you better do it
L1052[19:38:33] <Sangar> client.Proxy
L1053[19:38:57] <Caitlyn> q_q..... sitting idle, underclocked by 50% and undervolted from 1.3 to 1.12 volts, my local server is running 64c
L1054[19:39:41] <Caitlyn> I put on fresh artic silver 5 a week ago, cleaned the heatsink..
L1055[19:39:51] <Vexatos> Sangar, I mean whatever locks up the game when booting a computer for the first time
L1056[19:40:01] <Caitlyn> and I swear the fan is trying out to become a jet engine
L1057[19:40:06] <Sangar> Vexatos, ah, i meant for the sounds :P
L1058[19:40:59] <Sangar> Caitlyn, gimme, i'm cold :P
L1059[19:41:19] <Caitlyn> lol, I would but I'm currently using it for a heater myself.. :P
L1060[19:41:40] <Sangar> heh
L1061[19:46:03] <Caitlyn> seriously though... wtf
L1062[19:46:37] <Caitlyn> it spiked to 94c earlier... :/
L1063[19:47:23] <Sangar> bad sensor?
L1064[19:47:47] <Caitlyn> It's possible I guess...
L1065[19:47:51] <Caitlyn> I have no real way to check :/
L1066[19:48:01] <skyem123> Poke the heatsink?
L1067[19:48:05] <Dashkal> Just stick your f... too slow
L1068[19:48:08] *** Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L1069[19:48:09] <Caitlyn> I HAD a tempature probe I could have stuck in the heatsink
L1070[19:48:16] <Caitlyn> but IDK where it is
L1071[19:48:26] <skyem123> Poke the heatsink with your finger?
L1072[19:48:43] <Dashkal> That was where I was going with that, yes.
L1073[19:48:54] <Caitlyn> I could...
L1074[19:48:57] <Caitlyn> but pita
L1075[19:48:59] <Dashkal> I wouldn't suggest it :P
L1076[19:49:17] <Dashkal> Maybe hold a spoon to it and check how hot that gets
L1077[19:49:39] <Pwootage> Caitlyn: if your cpu spiked to 94c you need to reseat
L1078[19:49:44] <Pwootage> probably
L1079[19:49:46] <FireBall1725> o/
L1080[19:49:47] <FireBall1725> hello
L1081[19:50:04] <Pwootage> allo
L1082[19:50:30] <Caitlyn> I was able to hold my finger to the heatsink with no real discomfort
L1083[19:50:38] <skyem123> HMM]
L1084[19:50:41] <skyem123> hmm
L1085[19:51:19] <CompanionCube> http://www.revk.uk/2015/01/no-way-to-run-country.html
L1086[19:51:20] <CompanionCube> herehre
L1087[19:51:24] <CompanionCube> skyem123, ^
L1088[19:54:13] <Caitlyn> lol.... the board also reports that my -5 is -12 volts, and my -12 is -6 volts..
L1089[19:54:24] <skyem123> O_o
L1090[19:54:31] <Caitlyn> (yes I've put a PSU tester on it, no that's not right) :P
L1091[19:54:40] <Shuudoushi> wtf lol
L1092[19:54:43] <Dashkal> You might ... yeah... I think you have a $120 ish purchase in your near future.
L1093[19:54:49] <Shuudoushi> sounds like you need a new board yo
L1094[19:55:05] <Shuudoushi> Caitlyn: AMD right?
L1095[19:55:08] <Caitlyn> Yeah
L1096[19:55:14] <Shuudoushi> get my board
L1097[19:55:19] <Shuudoushi> cheap and works
L1098[19:55:29] <Shuudoushi> MSI 970A-G46 iirc
L1099[19:55:32] <Caitlyn> lol ATM Cheap is about 100% more then I can afford
L1100[19:55:42] <Shuudoushi> lol, yeah
L1101[19:55:55] <Caitlyn> I've got another box sitting right next to me.. but it's a dual core APU instead of the quad I have now
L1102[19:55:55] <Shuudoushi> my board is only $60 atm I think
L1103[19:56:22] <Caitlyn> atleast this is only a media server..
L1104[19:56:45] <Caitlyn> I'm not sure however how much the dual core APU is going to like doing real time reencoding for WMC..
L1105[19:57:05] * Caitlyn sighs
L1106[19:57:12] <Shuudoushi> they tend to fair ok
L1107[19:57:42] <Caitlyn> 73c
L1108[19:57:46] <Caitlyn> after a reboot lol
L1109[19:58:01] <Pwootage> well a thing of thermal paste isn't *too* expensive
L1110[19:58:07] *** skyem123 is now known as skyem123|dinner
L1111[19:58:10] <Caitlyn> this is fresh AS5
L1112[19:58:14] <Caitlyn> a week old
L1113[19:58:24] <Pwootage> well then sounds like something else is wrong :P
L1114[19:58:25] <Stary2001> o_O
L1115[19:59:30] * Caitlyn sighs
L1116[19:59:35] <Caitlyn> I have no spare DDR3
L1117[20:00:16] <Caitlyn> sadly the current box uses DDR2
L1118[20:00:21] <Caitlyn> and this new one is DDR3
L1119[20:00:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Time for me to go.
L1120[20:01:36] <Caitlyn> o/ SKS
L1121[20:06:32] * DeanIsaKitty hugs ShadowKatStudios
L1122[20:06:33] ⇦ Quits: Soni (SoniEx2@187.2.53.62) (Remote host closed the connection)
L1123[20:06:50] * ShadowKatStudios hugs DeanIsaKitty
L1124[20:06:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Want to guess how much sleep I got last night?\
L1125[20:07:04] <ShadowKatStudios> None.
L1126[20:07:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway, kettle's boiled
L1127[20:09:27] <Caitlyn> remove sidepanel, replace with boxfan, temp drop
L1128[20:09:52] <Dashkal> I do that from time to time in the summer >.>
L1129[20:10:09] <Caitlyn> bad news: It's winter..
L1130[20:10:10] <Caitlyn> lol
L1131[20:10:42] <Caitlyn> 48c and dropping
L1132[20:11:21] <ShadowKatStudios> I find a small deskfan is often better
L1133[20:11:28] <ShadowKatStudios> You get higher RPM but less area
L1134[20:12:05] <Caitlyn> I have exactly one box fan.
L1135[20:13:16] <Caitlyn> km WMC is now streaming live TV...
L1136[20:13:58] <Caitlyn> and hey... it's not surface of the sun hot..
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L1138[20:14:55] <Caitlyn> I think part of the problem is this is a 125 watt TDP cpu, and the chipset only officially supports 95 watt
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L1141[20:27:58] <Cinder> Woah
L1142[20:28:06] <Cinder> Somebody wrote a version of tar for OC
L1143[20:29:32] <Negi> tar is cool.
L1144[20:29:47] <Cinder> tar without gunzip that is
L1145[20:29:59] <Cinder> so it's just raw, uncompressed tar.
L1146[20:30:00] <Cinder> buuut
L1147[20:30:11] <Cinder> tar + computronics tapes = epic backup solution
L1148[20:30:30] <Cinder> because it removes the need for a filesystem layer on computronics tapes
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L1150[20:34:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Cinder: Use tapefs to mount the tape as a raw object in the file tree, then tar to the tape
L1151[20:34:52] <Cinder> ShadowKatStudios: that's redundant.
L1152[20:34:58] <Cinder> tar provides it's own filesystem.
L1153[20:35:07] <Cinder> if I just want backup/restore, I'll use tar.
L1154[20:35:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Nonono, gamax's tapefs mounts the raw tape as a file
L1155[20:35:19] <ShadowKatStudios> data.raw
L1156[20:35:33] <ShadowKatStudios> It lets you access it as a FS object
L1157[20:35:50] <ShadowKatStudios> So you can easily tar straight to the tape
L1158[20:36:07] <Cinder> tape write exampleFile.tar
L1159[20:36:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, but that needs enough space on the HDD, no?
L1160[20:36:33] <ShadowKatStudios> What if you had a full 4MB HDD?
L1161[20:36:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Or a 12MB tape you needed to back up?
L1162[20:36:56] <ShadowKatStudios> s/tape/RAID
L1163[20:36:57] <Kibibyte> <ShadowKatStudios> Or a 12MB RAID you needed to back up?
L1164[20:37:20] <ShadowKatStudios> You could write straight to the tape, without the need for an intermediate file
L1165[20:37:22] <Cinder> break it into parts, tar supports that.
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L1167[20:37:44] <ShadowKatStudios> This method seems more direct
L1168[20:39:06] <ShadowKatStudios> It mounts a folder, then there's a "file" in that folder that represents the tape's raw data, and if you write to that it's like writing to /dev/tap0 IMO, seems cleaner.
L1169[20:39:29] <Cinder> ah I suppose you're right
L1170[20:40:14] <Negi> Alt-SysRq-c <3
L1171[20:40:34] <Negi> Wasn't gamax working on a udev fs too iirc, ShadowKatStudios ?
L1172[20:40:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Dunno.
L1173[20:40:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I think gamax finished the fat12/16 though
L1174[20:42:14] <ShadowKatStudios> OC, Computronics, what am I missing?
L1175[20:43:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Know what would be cool?
L1176[20:43:27] <ShadowKatStudios> A tar filesystem
L1177[20:43:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Especially if you could mount tapes
L1178[20:44:48] <ShadowKatStudios> OpenGlasses...
L1179[20:44:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll see if I can get a copy of OA
L1180[20:49:26] <Negi> OA ?
L1181[20:49:29] <Negi> What is OA ?
L1182[20:49:39] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, inb4 we get nostalgic and implement something like the acorn's fs
L1183[20:51:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Never used anything Acorn, can't get nostalgic
L1184[20:51:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: OpenAutomation
L1185[20:51:46] <ShadowKatStudios> gjgfuj/Sandra's mod
L1186[20:54:01] <Negi> LMGT.
L1187[20:54:09] <ShadowKatStudios> lmgt?
L1188[20:54:10] * CompanionCube hasn't either, but was referenced in a class and has since gone on a wiki walk.
L1189[20:54:14] <CompanionCube> Dammit nikki :p
L1190[20:54:24] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: Let Me Google That.
L1191[20:54:38] <Negi> Actually I use ddg because it shows GitHub results on top of list <3
L1192[20:55:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway
L1193[20:55:38] <ShadowKatStudios> time for me
L1194[20:55:39] <ShadowKatStudios> to go
L1195[20:55:46] <ShadowKatStudios> got people to teach
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L1198[20:58:48] <Cinder> Is there documentation for the OC api anywhere?
L1199[20:58:55] <Cinder> adding components and such
L1200[20:59:06] <Cinder> or do I have to hunt through the OC source code to figure it out?
L1201[20:59:12] <CompanionCube> Sangar, poke ^
L1202[20:59:37] <Caitlyn> there was an example component on the wiki, but damned if I can find it
L1203[20:59:51] <Caitlyn> it also included a decent bit of documentation
L1204[21:00:08] <Caitlyn> That's how I did LanteaCraft's OC interaction lol
L1205[21:00:33] <Sangar> well, there's the javadoc. aside from that there are also the example projects here: https://github.com/MightyPirates (OC-Example-XYZ)
L1206[21:00:37] <gamax92> Sangar!
L1207[21:00:40] <gamax92> :D
L1208[21:00:43] <Sangar> hey :P
L1209[21:00:53] <Cinder> javadoc?
L1210[21:01:08] <Cinder> Sorry, I'm not familiar with Java development, I'm a C++ dev :P
L1211[21:01:16] <Sangar> haha
L1212[21:01:33] <gamax92> Sangar: http://hastebin.com/oxapekofuz.lua
L1213[21:01:35] <Sangar> well, start here http://git.io/VSoUBQ
L1214[21:01:51] <Sangar> then have a look at the documentation in the interfaces, and the example projects i mentioned above
L1215[21:02:08] <Sangar> gamax92, lz? compression?
L1216[21:02:34] <gamax92> Sangar: I was unpacking and decompressing iWork pages's .iwa files
L1217[21:02:42] <Sangar> error("Logic Problem") hue hue
L1218[21:03:05] <Cinder> Also, should OC mods be built against Java 7 or Java 8?
L1219[21:03:15] <gamax92> because my friend sent me a .pages, and NOTHING WANTS TO READ .PAGES BESIDES MAC
L1220[21:03:31] <Sangar> Cinder, whatever you like. i build oc against 7 but it works on 6
L1221[21:03:40] <gamax92> Cinder: i recommend not using 8
L1222[21:03:43] <Caitlyn> java 9 ftw.
L1223[21:03:52] <Cinder> Okay, because Forge was fixed for 8 about a month ago
L1224[21:04:00] <gamax92> yes but not everyone uses 8
L1225[21:04:07] <Cinder> and extended support ends in march
L1226[21:04:08] <Cinder> afaik
L1227[21:04:33] <Sangar> gamax92, i don't even know what that is (.pages), i'm happily avoiding mac :P
L1228[21:04:59] <gamax92> Sangar: think of Microsoft Word, for mac its iWork Pages
L1229[21:05:04] <Sangar> i see
L1230[21:05:25] <Negi> A .pages is just a zip in hiding afaik. ._.
L1231[21:05:28] <gamax92> yes
L1232[21:06:06] <Cinder> What version of forge is OC built against?
L1233[21:06:12] <gamax92> but they went from having a pdf and an index.xml to preview.jpg and Index.zip, which Index.zip has like a bunch of .iwa files
L1234[21:06:25] <gamax92> and after massive searching i found out the format of them
L1235[21:06:32] <Cinder> 1230?
L1236[21:06:57] <gamax92> 1236
L1237[21:07:26] <Cinder> gotcha
L1238[21:07:57] <Cinder> I know that mods built against previous versions of forge usually work fine on later versions, but not vice-versa
L1239[21:08:09] <gamax92> ehh, not necessarly
L1240[21:08:18] * gamax92 uses OC on 1208
L1241[21:08:22] <Sangar> it's only that high because some mods i test with in dev env need it :P
L1242[21:08:32] <Sangar> otherwise i'd have been lazy and it'd still be 1180 or something >_>
L1243[21:08:43] <gamax92> lol i had 1180 in one of my mods
L1244[21:09:01] <gamax92> Sangar: maven.url points to a file:// ?
L1245[21:09:26] <Cinder> In that case, I'll build against 1230, as it's the current "Recommended" version for 1.7.10
L1246[21:09:27] <Sangar> yeah, the maven lives on the same server as the jenkins, so that was the lazy route
L1247[21:10:20] <Cinder> Sangar: That's not very scalable is it?
L1248[21:10:27] <Sangar> "lazy"
L1249[21:10:54] <Cinder> Yeah yeah.
L1250[21:11:11] <Cinder> ...do I even have JDK installed?
L1251[21:11:32] <gamax92> Sangar: so lazy, that you have your keyboard and mouse in bed, and you can do all of your work in bed?
L1252[21:12:01] <Sangar> my chair is pretty comfy ;)
L1253[21:12:13] <gamax92> inb4 chair is bed
L1254[21:12:24] <Sangar> close, but ~2m off
L1255[21:12:57] <Negi> distance(chair, bed) = 5cm
L1256[21:12:59] <Negi> \o/
L1257[21:13:00] <gamax92> .conv 2 meters to feet
L1258[21:13:07] <gamax92> dammit ping
L1259[21:13:28] <Negi> 6.56 ft, gamax92.
L1260[21:13:52] <Negi> I was too lazy to actually consider looking to inches.
L1261[21:14:22] <gamax92> You might be asking, why don't you google it? Because i have no internet and i'm doing irc over a phone proxy
L1262[21:15:10] <gamax92> okay thats a lie, im just lazy .-.
L1263[21:15:51] <Negi> u lazy asscouch.
L1264[21:16:05] <gamax92> :(
L1265[21:16:32] <gamax92> my ass is firmly planted in a wooden chair, thank you very much
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L1267[21:17:34] <Dashkal> you lazy flat-ass?
L1268[21:17:37] <Negi> "firmly"
L1269[21:17:51] <Cinder> wait so, to develop a mod for a mod I need to have both Forge and the mod's source code?
L1270[21:18:00] <Cinder> Java development is weird o-o
L1271[21:18:12] <gamax92> Cinder: well no
L1272[21:18:27] <gamax92> you /could/ build against the compiled class files.
L1273[21:18:27] <Negi> I want a website that plays Miku's 404 as a 404 page.
L1274[21:18:43] <Cinder> well I need to import the OC api, and for that I need the source don't I?
L1275[21:18:49] <gamax92> nope
L1276[21:18:59] <gamax92> you'd just use the api.jar and javadoc.jar
L1277[21:19:11] <Cinder> ...okay?
L1278[21:19:12] <gamax92> javadoc.jar gives you documentation and the api.jar is what you'd build against
L1279[21:19:29] <Cinder> okay gamax92, I know you've modded for OC before
L1280[21:19:32] <gamax92> Yes
L1281[21:19:40] <Cinder> assume I've set up gradle correctly and now have a mod dev folder
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L1284[21:19:49] <gamax92> yes
L1285[21:19:58] <Cinder> what are the steps I need to do to actually be able to dev for OC?
L1286[21:20:31] <gamax92> 1) put java files in src/main/java/ 2) ./gradlew build 3) get jar from build/libs/
L1287[21:21:01] <Cinder> where do I get these java files?
L1288[21:21:04] <gamax92> you make them
L1289[21:21:08] <Cinder> wait so
L1290[21:21:26] <Cinder> I'm cofused now, I thought you said I needed the API in the first place o-o
L1291[21:21:50] <Dashkal> Cinder: Set up your forge mod as normal. Add the oc api to the gradle deps (sorry, I lack the string right now, my dev env is on a vm that's off) Profit.
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L1293[21:22:08] <Dashkal> If you don't want to use gradle, it's just a matter of grabbing the API/Javadoc from jenkins and adding the api to your classpath
L1294[21:22:19] <gamax92> Cinder: https://github.com/gamax92/MassSound/blob/1.7/build.gradle#L24-L33
L1295[21:22:26] <gamax92> put that in your build.gradle
L1296[21:22:29] <Pwootage> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/README.md#extending
L1297[21:22:31] <gamax92> bam you have oc's api
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L1299[21:23:02] <Cinder> oh
L1300[21:23:03] <Cinder> OH
L1301[21:23:07] <Cinder> is THAT what gradle is?
L1302[21:23:17] <Pwootage> yes, gradle is Forge's build system
L1303[21:23:20] <Pwootage> or rather
L1304[21:23:23] <Cinder> Shit I have a lot to learn, I thought gradle was a part of the ASM libraries that Forge needed o-o
L1305[21:23:26] <Dashkal> Gradle is a build/dependency manager. Same use cases as Maven.
L1306[21:23:33] <Pwootage> the build system forge uses
L1307[21:23:56] <Dashkal> Forge tampered with it a little. Some plugin stuff.
L1308[21:23:56] <Pwootage> Gradle, Maven, SBT are all approximately the same thing
L1309[21:24:07] <Dashkal> Except of course that SBT is the right answer *nods*
L1310[21:24:14] <Dashkal> I kid. For forge, use forge's gradle.
L1311[21:24:22] <Cinder> Well shit that makes things easy
L1312[21:24:28] <Cinder> if I can learn to use Gradle in the first place
L1313[21:25:37] <Dashkal> It's dead simple. './gradlew setupDecompWorkspace' gets you started. './gradlew idea' or './gradlew eclipse' builds the project for your IDE.
L1314[21:25:58] <Dashkal> gradlew build makes the output jars (normal and deobf)
L1315[21:26:53] <Cinder> okie dokie
L1316[21:27:54] <Dashkal> Adjust syntax for your OS of choice, obviously.
L1317[21:28:10] * gamax92 never got a deobf jar?
L1318[21:28:19] <gamax92> i always get a normal one
L1319[21:28:23] <Pwootage> I actually do like SBT, it's really nice (although it still has it's flaws)
L1320[21:28:36] <Cinder> haha, that hack
L1321[21:28:42] <Cinder> gradlew has two files
L1322[21:28:53] <Cinder> gradlew executable file for *nix, and gradlew.bat for windows
L1323[21:28:55] <Dashkal> I love SBT. I just don't want to re-implement the forge-gradle stuff in it.
L1324[21:28:59] <Cinder> so both windows and *nix have the same command
L1325[21:29:02] <gamax92> how is that a hack
L1326[21:29:13] <Dashkal> Sounds like good cross-platform dev to me.
L1327[21:29:17] <Cinder> I suppose it could have been worse
L1328[21:29:21] <gamax92> they are both scripts, ones a batch file and ones shell script
L1329[21:29:25] <Cinder> gradlew, gradlew.sh, and gradlew.vbs
L1330[21:29:35] <gamax92> .-. that makes no sense
L1331[21:29:51] <Cinder> I knew a guy who did all of his batch scripting in VBS
L1332[21:31:14] <Cinder> BUILD FAILED
L1333[21:31:16] <Cinder> u wot
L1334[21:31:26] <Negi> Well with shell scripting, explain how it could have been better, Cinder ?
L1335[21:31:31] <Negi> Woop
L1336[21:31:34] <Negi> Nevermind taht
L1337[21:31:36] <Cinder> I dunno
L1338[21:31:43] <Negi> (Eff you weechat)
L1339[21:31:57] <Cinder> but now I'm trying to figure out why it just died
L1340[21:31:58] <Dashkal> Heh, I'm still in the honeymoon phase with weechat.
L1341[21:32:12] <Dashkal> Once I leaned to turn off the technicolor nightmare, anyway.
L1342[21:32:20] <Cinder> gonna alter build.gradle to include the OC sources, forgot to do that.
L1343[21:32:23] <Dashkal> Holy crap it's colorful by default.
L1344[21:32:30] <Negi> Dashkal: I say eff you to weechat but I should blame my color scheme really.
L1345[21:32:43] <Negi> (Dashkal, use terminal.sexy :D)
L1346[21:32:52] <Dashkal> Once I learned you could strip color from messages with triggers, things got sane.
L1347[21:33:06] <Dashkal> I, uh, tuned it by hand. I wasn't aware of color schemes at the time.
L1348[21:33:17] <gamax92> http://thebest404pageever.com/swf/guus_jab_dhale.swf
L1349[21:33:27] <Dashkal> Mostly I just wanted join/part/quit/nick/etc to be uniform dark grey. I need to see it, but PLEASE don't make it attention grabbing.
L1350[21:33:45] <Dashkal> I think I'm not super inclined to click random flash files right now >.>
L1351[21:33:59] <Negi> gamax92 I approve.
L1352[21:33:59] <gamax92> its a video loop to music
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L1355[21:34:18] <Negi> Dashkal: It's sfw, no screamers, not anything. It's a bit funny.
L1356[21:35:07] <Dashkal> I was actually referring to the zero-day exploits in flash
L1357[21:35:07] <Cinder> I think I figured out why gradle failed
L1358[21:35:11] <Cinder> I have 60% packet loss right now
L1359[21:35:11] <Dashkal> Only one was patched today
L1360[21:35:19] <Dashkal> That would do it, yeah.
L1361[21:35:33] <Cinder> 78%
L1362[21:35:35] <Cinder> 80%
L1363[21:35:36] <Cinder> crap
L1364[21:35:54] <Cinder> Looks like the local exchange just crapped itself.
L1365[21:36:16] <Dashkal> Uh, see you when you get back from your impending outage?
L1366[21:36:25] <Negi> gamax92 : http://thebest404pageever.com/swf/The_YMCA.swf
L1367[21:36:29] <gamax92> Cinder: btw if you've already done a build, Lord Sangar has informed me you can put --offline and it'll stop redownloading stuff.
L1368[21:36:45] <Cinder> I haven't, it failed because it couldn't download things
L1369[21:36:46] <gamax92> As to why gradle can't just ... not keep constantly downloading stuff ,,,
L1370[21:36:52] <Cinder> so I'm retrying it
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L1373[21:37:03] <gamax92> Negi: XD
L1374[21:37:11] <Cinder> First build failed because packet loss
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L1377[21:42:39] <Negi> gamax92: Best thing to embed in a 404 page stays this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kYSc64aU1w
L1378[21:42:39] -Kibibyte- [Negi] 【Hatsune Miku】404 - Not Found | by rediakaikai | 22s | 175w4d ago | 93,687 views | Rated: 4.97/5.00
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L1382[21:46:49] <Cinder> %ping
L1383[21:46:51] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from Cinder 1.59s
L1384[21:47:11] <Cinder> LIES
L1385[21:47:15] <Cinder> It took a minute for it to register
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L1387[21:47:44] <Cinder> 21:45:22 vs 21:46:53
L1388[21:47:47] <Caitlyn> [15:46:48] <Cinder> %ping
L1389[21:47:47] <Caitlyn> [15:46:51] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from Cinder 1.59s
L1390[21:47:53] <Caitlyn> THat's not a minute. :P
L1391[21:48:10] <Cinder> I sent the %ping at 21:45:22
L1392[21:48:15] <Cinder> *47
L1393[21:48:19] <Cinder> wait no
L1394[21:48:20] <Cinder> hang on
L1395[21:48:29] <Caitlyn> Yes, but it didn't make it to michibot until 46:48
L1396[21:48:36] <Cinder> ffffffffffffff-
L1397[21:48:36] <Dashkal> Cinder: /ctcp PING Cinder
L1398[21:48:38] <Cinder> Fuck my internet
L1399[21:48:40] <Dashkal> Should ping yourself via irc
L1400[21:48:50] <Dashkal> erm, reverse name and PING
L1401[21:48:53] <Dashkal> I always forget that syntax
L1402[21:48:58] <ping> Cinder, you dun fucked up
L1403[21:48:59] <Cinder> ? seconds
L1404[21:49:06] <Cinder> * Received a CTCP PING from Cinder
L1405[21:49:08] <Cinder> * Ping reply from Cinder: ? second(s)
L1406[21:49:14] <Cinder> that can't be good
L1407[21:49:15] <Dashkal> Uh...
L1408[21:49:18] <ping> Dashkal, xD
L1409[21:49:18] <Dashkal> I got nothing
L1410[21:49:23] <ping> im watching you
L1411[21:49:32] <Caitlyn> You're supposed to send the current timestamp with the ping
L1412[21:49:34] <Dashkal> Hell of a name you picked, ping
L1413[21:49:35] <Cinder> oh
L1414[21:49:39] <Cinder> I get it.
L1415[21:49:54] <Caitlyn> »» Ping reply from Cinder: 0.887 second(s)
L1416[21:50:06] <Dashkal> When I do /ctcp Dashkal PING I get the expected reply. Yours appears to be a bit more raw...
L1417[21:50:20] <Cinder> Yeah, /ctcp Cinder PING excludes the timestamp that hexchat expects
L1418[21:50:35] <Cinder> /ctcp Cinder Ping 192 gave me this:
L1419[21:50:40] <Cinder> * Received a CTCP PING 192 from Cinder
L1420[21:50:40] <Cinder> * Ping reply from Cinder: 279197.786 second(s)
L1421[21:51:05] <Caitlyn> lol yeah
L1422[21:51:12] <Caitlyn> I used to have ZNC respond with 8
L1423[21:51:18] <Caitlyn> which caused interesting replies
L1424[21:51:19] <Altenius> * Ping reply from irc.znc.in: 0.057 second(s)
L1425[21:51:24] <Dashkal> Heh, I may mess with that one at some point
L1426[21:51:58] <Altenius> * Ping reply from Cinder: 1421913507.548 second(s) What?
L1427[21:52:11] <Cinder> hahaha
L1428[21:52:14] <ping> for the love of god
L1429[21:52:17] <ping> stop pinging me
L1430[21:52:23] <Cinder> HAHAHAHA
L1431[21:52:30] <Dashkal> Yep, love that name choice
L1432[21:52:45] <Caitlyn> ffs I wish this channel was on my network :P
L1433[21:52:46] <Cinder> I'll stop now.
L1434[21:52:53] <Caitlyn> I'd so totally abuse /pretenduser....
L1435[21:53:09] <Caitlyn> 117 people all pinging ping at once.
L1436[21:53:23] <Dashkal> That brought back memories. I briefly had oper on another network long ago.
L1437[21:53:27] <ping> opper abuse ftw :P
L1438[21:53:37] <Dashkal> Not at all sure why they gave oper to a teenager, but there you go.
L1439[21:53:37] <Caitlyn> lmao
L1440[21:53:43] <Sangar> > briefly
L1441[21:53:47] <Sangar> go on~
L1442[21:53:52] <Caitlyn> lolol
L1443[21:53:56] <Dashkal> No abuse. I stopped coding for the associated MUD.
L1444[21:54:04] <Dashkal> So I just stopped logging in.
L1445[21:54:09] <ping> bullshit :P
L1446[21:54:13] * Dashkal shrugs
L1447[21:54:16] <Dashkal> Believe what you will
L1448[21:54:24] <Caitlyn> I used to /pingspam Shuudoushi quiet often...
L1449[21:54:32] <Dashkal> I probably still have oper there, assuming the servers are still live.
L1450[21:54:53] <Dashkal> Few people seem to remember to clear old accounts, I've noticed.
L1451[21:55:38] <Dashkal> ping: ?
L1452[21:55:46] <Dashkal> wtf is IRL_REK?
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L1455[21:58:08] <ping> Dashkal, i rek u irl
L1456[21:58:51] <Dashkal> Uh huh...
L1457[21:59:35] <Caitlyn> %chgnick MichiBot
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L1459[22:00:48] <Dashkal> Oh wow, there's a suppressed memory. On aforementioned irc network, I dabbled with writing an irc bot. In perl. Intended to turn it into a mud/irc bridge.
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L1461[22:03:55] <Shuudoushi> and Caitlyn is a dick head for doing it
L1462[22:04:12] <PhoneCube> ?
L1463[22:04:14] * Caitlyn slaps Shuudoushi around with a large nuclear warhead
L1464[22:04:14] * EnderBot2 laughs
L1465[22:04:38] <PhoneCube> What happened
L1466[22:04:42] <Shuudoushi> PhoneCube: Caitlyn used to /pingspam me
L1467[22:04:57] <Shuudoushi> alot -_-
L1468[22:05:20] <Caitlyn> I have a IRC network, and have a custom module that lets opers use /pretenduser to send raw data to the server as another user.. mainly used for debugging
L1469[22:05:48] <Caitlyn> I wrote a script that let me select a channel, and a user in that channel and it would cause all of the other users in that channel to send the targets name in chat
L1470[22:06:06] <Shuudoushi> well... That's how it's /SUPPOSED/ to be used...
L1471[22:06:22] <Shuudoushi> but we never used it for debugging more thn once or twice >.>
L1472[22:06:36] <Caitlyn> I still use it..
L1473[22:06:47] <Caitlyn> for debugging*
L1474[22:07:01] <Caitlyn> It's not my fault you're never around when I'm doing so
L1475[22:07:03] <Shuudoushi> "debugging" maybe lol
L1476[22:07:11] <Shuudoushi> uh huh
L1477[22:07:16] <Shuudoushi> SURE~~~
L1478[22:07:26] <Shuudoushi> fucker
L1479[22:07:30] <Caitlyn> No... I had to add myself as founder on a channel to fix something because the actual founder was offline but connected via bouncer...
L1480[22:07:37] <Caitlyn> so I /pretenduer'd myself a command to chanserv
L1481[22:07:46] <Caitlyn> fixed what needed fixed, and then removed my access
L1482[22:08:17] <Shuudoushi> I still need to get my code working...
L1483[22:08:38] <Shuudoushi> I don't remember how to do number ranges...
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L1486[22:10:22] <Cinder> Sangar: how would I go about passing a table to my OC mod item?
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L1488[22:11:02] <Cinder> numeric and string values are pretty straightforward, I'm just not sure about tables
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L1490[22:11:13] <Sangar> Lua -> Java: args.checkTable, Java -> Lua: return a Map or Array
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L1493[22:12:01] <Cinder> oh, yeah.
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L1495[22:12:07] <Cinder> I forgot java had a MAP type.
L1496[22:12:12] <Sangar> heh
L1497[22:12:24] <Shuudoushi> can someone else look at this and tell me why I can't get 61 and 92 to work... http://pastebin.com/3PFSk7Ms
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L1499[22:12:35] <Shuudoushi> I'm sure it's b/c I'm an idiot...
L1500[22:12:37] <Pwootage> Maps are kinda important in java :P
L1501[22:12:41] <Cinder> I was scratching my head thinking "Does it return a weirdly formatted array or something I don't understand..."
L1502[22:13:09] <gamax92> Sangar: except for HashMap?
L1503[22:13:18] <Dashkal> Sangar: I don't suppose you have a conversion for scala.collection.immutable.Map as well?
L1504[22:13:23] <gamax92> I was getting complants from OC about HashMaps
L1505[22:13:26] <Sangar> gamax92, why except?
L1506[22:13:43] <gamax92> Sangar: "Tried to push a signal of type HashMap" or some error like that
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L1510[22:14:01] <Pwootage> (immutable.map would imply mutable.map too, right?)
L1511[22:14:05] <Sangar> ah, yeah signals don't support tables
L1512[22:14:10] <Sangar> Dashkal, scala maps also work
L1513[22:14:16] <gamax92> Sangar: das a problem
L1514[22:14:30] <Dashkal> Woot!
L1515[22:14:38] <gamax92> wait can i return a Value?
L1516[22:14:40] <Dashkal> Which flat collection type would I use for arrays?
L1517[22:14:42] <Cinder> I can't find any documentation on Java maps o-o
L1518[22:14:43] <gamax92> err, push a Value?
L1519[22:14:55] <Dashkal> Anything Seq? Or did you use a precise type (List, Vector, etc)
L1520[22:14:57] <Caitlyn> Shuudoushi, ( ... )?
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L1522[22:15:08] <gamax92> Cinder: because Map is not a actual thing you can instansiate iirc
L1523[22:15:14] <gamax92> it has be a type of a Map iirc
L1524[22:15:16] <Cinder> oh
L1525[22:15:17] <Shuudoushi> Caitlyn: over look that, I fixed in MC, but not in sublime
L1526[22:15:19] <Sangar> gamax92, no. it's something i've wanted to look into but didn't get around to it yet
L1527[22:15:24] <Cinder> So what type of map is a Lua Table then?
L1528[22:15:31] <Caitlyn> "overlook" "why doesn't this work"
L1529[22:15:33] <Caitlyn> >_>
L1530[22:15:42] <gamax92> I've been using HashMaps?
L1531[22:16:03] <Shuudoushi> Caitlyn: again, it's fixed on what's running it, just not in my text editor
L1532[22:16:29] <Caitlyn> That's great but you asked why you couldn't get 61 working... what exactly did you change it to? lol
L1533[22:16:31] <Caitlyn> just ()?
L1534[22:16:39] <Shuudoushi> yes
L1535[22:16:42] <Caitlyn> Ok.. lol
L1536[22:17:21] <Caitlyn> So like.. are you getting an error?
L1537[22:17:28] <Shuudoushi> no
L1538[22:17:40] <Caitlyn> it just doesn't work.. neat
L1539[22:17:43] <Shuudoushi> it's just not passing the args to the func
L1540[22:18:14] <Cinder> I'm gonna assume all my questions will be awnsered by the javadoc
L1541[22:18:30] <Shuudoushi> the syntex is supposed to works as "rod <rod #> <rod insertion %>"
L1542[22:18:36] <Sangar> Cinder, about maps? probably, yes :P
L1543[22:18:48] <Cinder> if I can figure out how to even use javadoc -_-
L1544[22:18:53] <Shuudoushi> s/works/work
L1545[22:18:53] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> the syntex is supposed to work as "rod <rod #> <rod insertion %>"
L1546[22:19:03] <Cinder> Literally my first time trying to develop for java short of compiling the classes myself.
L1547[22:19:09] <vifino> <Joke about insertion>
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L1549[22:19:25] <Caitlyn> one day I should try this minecraft people keep talking about..
L1550[22:19:39] <vifino> Playing? ;)
L1551[22:19:44] <lperkins2> Finally! I figured out why it OCx86 was hanging on boot.
L1552[22:20:01] <Shuudoushi> and fully over look lines 96~101, that was for testing the rodList() func
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L1554[22:20:16] <lperkins2> I wasn't advancing the CPU current instruction pointer when resuming after a HALT.
L1555[22:20:52] <Shuudoushi> vifino: lol, wtf yo
L1556[22:20:57] <gamax92> lperkins2: is it booting fully now?
L1557[22:21:01] <gamax92> or still more problems
L1558[22:21:11] <vifino> Shuudoushi: Wat? D:
L1559[22:21:22] <Shuudoushi> [16:19:06] <vifino> <Joke about insertion>
L1560[22:21:26] <lperkins2> Too early to tell, it's kinda slow :)
L1561[22:21:28] <vifino> :x
L1562[22:21:45] <vifino> Shuudoushi: Didn't ever happen :x
L1563[22:21:50] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1564[22:21:51] <PhoneCube> lperkins2: hz, khz or mhz>
L1565[22:21:52] <gamax92> lperkins2: you can't see if it POST's?
L1566[22:21:52] <Shuudoushi> uh huh
L1567[22:21:54] <PhoneCube> *?
L1568[22:22:06] <Shuudoushi> GHZ!!!
L1569[22:22:06] <Dashkal> Caitlyn: I wouldn't suggest it. Boring game.
L1570[22:22:08] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1571[22:22:19] <lperkins2> 75MHz,
L1572[22:22:49] <lperkins2> And it is through the bios into booting dos
L1573[22:22:53] <vifino> lperkins2: Please no. 400mhz is slow, please don't kill me with 75...
L1574[22:23:07] <lperkins2> It boots!
L1575[22:23:15] <PhoneCube> lperkins2: DOS works on it?
L1576[22:23:18] <lperkins2> My second computer was 75 MHz
L1577[22:23:18] <PhoneCube> O.o
L1578[22:23:31] <lperkins2> Hold on please :)
L1579[22:23:33] <gamax92> .-. provided its actually getting to 75, how's that slow?
L1580[22:23:39] <Shuudoushi> brb
L1581[22:24:06] <vifino> gamax92: I want to run a proper linux on it ¬_¬
L1582[22:24:21] <gamax92> vifino: okay, then do so
L1583[22:24:25] <gamax92> I run linux on 66MHz
L1584[22:24:43] <vifino> .-. thats not proper, thats slow
L1585[22:24:50] <gamax92> not really
L1586[22:25:04] <lperkins2> It actually gets to 75MHz, default it would run at around 1GHz, but that'd be terrible to the host machine.
L1587[22:25:11] <Shuudoushi> Ubuntu want's to idle at 800mhz for me lol
L1588[22:25:23] <lperkins2> No, your CPU wants to idle at 800MHz,
L1589[22:25:37] <Shuudoushi> eh
L1590[22:25:57] <lperkins2> I basically set this up as a pentium II, I might up it to 133MHz, but more than that taxes the host a lot.
L1591[22:25:58] <Shuudoushi> then my CPU is a highly confused thing
L1592[22:26:10] <lperkins2> http://imgur.com/NtH8DBt
L1593[22:26:27] <Negi> Imma bed. Gnight
L1594[22:26:30] <gamax92> lperkins2: :o ocl?
L1595[22:26:33] <Shuudoushi> on windohs, my CPU idles at 3055mhz (which is max speed...)
L1596[22:26:37] <Shuudoushi> night Negi
L1597[22:26:46] <lperkins2> Yup, it's working now, sorta.
L1598[22:27:09] <Shuudoushi> so Caitlyn, what's the verdict?
L1599[22:27:14] <lperkins2> It does also output to OC screens, but I have them connected as a serial TTY, which the bios ignores.
L1600[22:27:29] <Caitlyn> the verdict is I'm trying to get a small pack to test with..
L1601[22:27:38] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1602[22:27:44] <PhoneCube> lperkins2: 404 here
L1603[22:27:44] <Caitlyn> ATM loading my 145 mod 1.7 pack hurts
L1604[22:27:49] <gamax92> lperkins2: oh, so you have a Terminal emulator for the screens>
L1605[22:27:51] <gamax92> ?
L1606[22:27:55] <Shuudoushi> Caitlyn: OUCH
L1607[22:28:06] <Cinder> OMFG
L1608[22:28:30] <lperkins2> Not fully, hence part of why I'm using the vga card with OCL
L1609[22:28:35] <Cinder> Dude
L1610[22:28:37] <Cinder> Are you serious?
L1611[22:28:44] <gamax92> lperkins2: can i see the .java?
L1612[22:28:53] <gamax92> for the terminal
L1613[22:29:01] <Pwootage> Caitlyn: in-game or actual number of .jars?
L1614[22:29:02] <lperkins2> PhoneCube, the link I posted? Sounds like gamax can see it, so I'm not certain what to say.
L1615[22:29:07] <PhoneCube> Ah
L1616[22:29:07] <lperkins2> Sure, I guess,
L1617[22:29:11] <Cinder> Why Pentium? Why not 486SX?
L1618[22:29:11] <Caitlyn> actual jar count
L1619[22:29:14] <PhoneCube> Was temporary
L1620[22:29:16] <Shuudoushi> Caitlyn: the pack for the server I'm running this on has OC ver 1.4.3 and BR ver 0.4.1A2
L1621[22:29:32] <Pwootage> nice
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L1623[22:29:40] <Caitlyn> what I'm running right now is 20 mods reported ingame
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L1625[22:30:42] <Caitlyn> Oh crap...
L1626[22:30:43] <Caitlyn> erm
L1627[22:30:47] <Caitlyn> I just realized...
L1628[22:30:50] <lperkins2> http://lpaste.net/119024
L1629[22:30:54] <Caitlyn> I have no idea how OC works in 1.7 anymore
L1630[22:31:16] <lperkins2> That's the important section that tries to print to the screen.
L1631[22:31:23] <gamax92> lperkins2: ahh right you have TextBuffer
L1632[22:31:37] <Caitlyn> I've not played MC enough to pickup anything in OC 1.4
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L1635[22:31:45] <Shuudoushi> Caitlyn: need an epprom and an OS disk
L1636[22:33:03] <Shuudoushi> that's really the only extra stuff you need now
L1637[22:33:23] <Caitlyn> Eh the openos disk has been needed for ages
L1638[22:33:26] <gamax92> lperkins2: heh i didn't think of that :o
L1639[22:33:27] <Caitlyn> I grabbed a lua bios
L1640[22:33:33] <gamax92> using min index
L1641[22:33:37] <Shuudoushi> then your set
L1642[22:34:19] <gamax92> My terminal emulator works character by character .-.
L1643[22:34:57] <gamax92> though it supports a blinking console and ansi escape sequences :o
L1644[22:35:10] <Shuudoushi> and ofc I alt f4ed to clear the shader... I geuss it worked in the end...
L1645[22:35:17] <lperkins2> Yeah, well, so far this isn't working great, so I wouldn't recommend switching just yet
L1646[22:35:45] <gamax92> lperkins2: i wouldn't switch anyway .-. until you have blinking cursor and ansi escape codes :P
L1647[22:36:08] <lperkins2> Um, once I get it plumbed through properly, that will magically appear, controlled by the OS...
L1648[22:36:28] <lperkins2> Which you say isn't the job of your OS, so that's kinda too bad.
L1649[22:36:42] <gamax92> neither is it on DOS or Linux .-.
L1650[22:37:17] <Cinder> okay
L1651[22:37:18] <vifino> The terminals interpret the ansi escapes.
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L1653[22:37:33] <Cinder> I fucked up and had the wrong dev version set in my build.gradle
L1654[22:37:42] <Cinder> is there a way to fix it without completely wiping my project?
L1655[22:38:04] <lperkins2> Um, the cursor blinking behaviour is defined entirely by application in linux... I suppose you might find some old non-virtual TTYs which actually provide their own cursor behaviour, but any modern (post 1995) machine emulates the old TTY behaviour...
L1656[22:38:42] <Shuudoushi> Caitlyn: btw, the program /SHOULD/ support a reactor with any number of fuel rods
L1657[22:38:52] <Caitlyn> edit test
L1658[22:38:56] <Caitlyn> lol..
L1659[22:38:57] <Caitlyn> crap
L1660[22:39:03] <Shuudoushi> I do it too XD
L1661[22:39:04] <Caitlyn> I tried to type vim in OC a minute ago
L1662[22:39:11] <Shuudoushi> lmao
L1663[22:39:21] <gamax92> lperkins2: ._.
L1664[22:39:24] <lperkins2> Hm, keyboard is ignored...
L1665[22:39:29] <Shuudoushi> well, if you install vim through oppm, that would work lol
L1666[22:39:31] <lperkins2> But soon I hope to get nano up and running :)
L1667[22:39:47] <Caitlyn> I also just esc :wq
L1668[22:39:50] <Shuudoushi> or is it called "v" in oppm...
L1669[22:40:17] <gamax92> lperkins2: no see we have these things called terminal codes, we can tell the terminal to put a cursor up or not to put a cursor up
L1670[22:40:35] <Shuudoushi> Caitlyn: and it's "insert" to paste into OC, just a reminder, I fuck it up all the time...
L1671[22:40:51] <Caitlyn> I know what it is.. :P
L1672[22:41:16] <Shuudoushi> "Why isn't it pasting!!! ... Oh... I'm using ctrl+v... fml..."
L1673[22:43:04] <lperkins2> But the 'terminal' on a modern machine doesn't exist! It's just a vga buffer which expects instructions about what pixels to colour in what way. The BIOS may well provide a basic VT100 emulator or similar, but it's all in software, at least assuming the BIOS is flashable...
L1674[22:43:30] <gamax92> lperkins2: I thought we were talking about a serial port?
L1675[22:44:19] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/eT7Ch/5f57ae178c.jpg
L1676[22:44:20] <Caitlyn> weeee
L1677[22:44:37] <gamax92> Sangar: ^
L1678[22:44:44] <lperkins2> Ah, yes, hence the misunderstanding, apologies. What I have is more like a serial tap, it dumps the raw information given to the serial port out. Eventually I intend to upgrade it to a proper serial TTY.
L1679[22:44:44] <Sangar> something using the 1.3 api
L1680[22:44:51] <Caitlyn> Yeah I know exactly what it is lol
L1681[22:44:57] <Sangar> :P
L1682[22:45:01] <Caitlyn> I just didn't think I had copied that mod into this test instance
L1683[22:45:02] <gamax92> lperkins2: oh in that case then okay
L1684[22:45:16] <lperkins2> Or possibly get the VGA buffer to output to it.
L1685[22:45:31] <gamax92> lperkins2: btw vga cards do the cursor itself ;)
L1686[22:45:42] <Shuudoushi> btw, does anyone have a working multi-monitor script?
L1687[22:45:50] <lperkins2> Each block provides 150x100 pixels, opposed to OCL's 32x32, so it would g better resolution.
L1688[22:46:03] * Caitlyn slaps EBeef
L1689[22:46:03] * EnderBot2 laughs
L1690[22:46:08] <gamax92> lperkins2: uhh ... no
L1691[22:46:22] <gamax92> you can put two screens next to eachother, but that'll still be 160x50 max
L1692[22:46:29] <lperkins2> Oh, right, forgot,
L1693[22:46:38] <lperkins2> 'though I can up the resolution from the mod...
L1694[22:46:50] <gamax92> well you can do that (TextBuffer \o/)
L1695[22:46:57] <Caitlyn> Also, I love how I have curse premium... but I still have the download timer
L1696[22:47:06] <Shuudoushi> lmafo
L1697[22:47:12] <Shuudoushi> lmfao*
L1698[22:47:16] <Caitlyn> Eliminate this page and obtain a handful of other perks with Curse Premium
L1699[22:47:17] <Caitlyn> BS.
L1700[22:47:36] <Shuudoushi> it's like hulu+
L1701[22:47:44] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/eT8aT/1040e4ddaa.png
L1702[22:48:16] <lperkins2> And yeah, the VGA's onboard stuff controls its cursor, but it simply exposes a pixelbuffer to the mod, which simply gets copied, so no need for me to mess with it.
L1703[22:48:21] <Shuudoushi> "You're paying <however fucking much it is> a month for our service? Let us thank you by making you sit through the ads anyway!"
L1704[22:48:51] <Shuudoushi> Caitlyn: 2 days till freedom...
L1705[22:48:52] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1706[22:48:53] <lperkins2> Hm, keyboard is misbehaving...
L1707[22:48:58] <Caitlyn> No, it'll auto renew
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L1709[22:49:21] <lperkins2> Invalid Opcode at ...
L1710[22:49:27] <lperkins2> whenever I type on the keyboard.
L1711[22:49:44] <lperkins2> Of course, the error 'Invalid Opcode' doesn't appear anywhere in the source, so I'm rather puzzled.
L1712[22:50:09] <Shuudoushi> lperkins2: kill it with fire!!!
L1713[22:50:29] <Ekoserin> I no longer use two monitors at different resolution. Both are 1680x1050. Anything interesting happen here while I was gone?
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L1715[22:50:40] <gamax92> lperkins2: that might be from freedos
L1716[22:50:49] <gamax92> which iirc that build in JPC has Killer loaded
L1717[22:50:59] <lperkins2> Ah, don't have the source from that, only the bios, VGAbios and jpc.
L1718[22:52:01] <lperkins2> Let me grab one of their linux boot images and see if it workd.
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L1720[22:53:47] <gamax92> lperkins2: weird, i don't see Killer in fdconfig.sys or autoexec.bat
L1721[22:53:55] <gamax92> or anything that does that (maybe DOSIdle)
L1722[22:54:05] <lperkins2> It mentions DOSIdle
L1723[22:54:43] <Cinder> I'm having an issue with Gradle
L1724[22:54:52] <Cinder> I haven't even gotten to the stage of writing my mod and I already broke it :(
L1725[22:55:16] <gamax92> Cinder: "I'm having a problem" is less helpful than "My problem is ..."
L1726[22:55:20] <Cinder> oh wait nvm
L1727[22:55:25] <Cinder> I forgot to set up the env
L1728[22:55:33] <Cinder> herp
L1729[22:56:41] <Cinder> This, kids, is how you DON'T be me
L1730[22:59:20] <Cinder> okay no it didn't fix it
L1731[22:59:26] <Cinder> Eclipse claims that the project is missing
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L1733[23:01:43] <Cinder> Trying to rebuild a third time, maybe that'll fix it
L1734[23:02:02] <gamax92> Cinder: ./gradlew setupDevWorkspace eclipse
L1735[23:02:34] <gamax92> if you aren't doing setup(Something)Workspace then you need to, and if you aren't doing eclipse then you need to
L1736[23:02:57] <Cinder> forge wiki says gradlew eclipse works, and it worked before
L1737[23:02:59] <Cinder> just not now
L1738[23:03:10] <gamax92> Cinder: you have done atleast both right?
L1739[23:03:18] <Cinder> Yes
L1740[23:03:31] <Cinder> Well I'm doing gradlew setupDevWorkspace eclipse
L1741[23:03:34] <gamax92> Cinder: where are you pointing eclipse to for its workspace?
L1742[23:03:43] <Cinder> <forge source>/eclipse
L1743[23:03:53] <gamax92> hmm, well ... that should be correct .-.
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L1745[23:07:17] <Cinder> Nope.
L1746[23:07:41] <gamax92> it worked just now for me .-.
L1747[23:07:49] <gamax92> tested it on 1230
L1748[23:08:08] <Cinder> I'm going to try wiping forge and eclipse
L1749[23:09:40] <lperkins2> Keyboard works.
L1750[23:09:46] <Cinder> okay this time forge is doing something different.
L1751[23:09:51] <lperkins2> I had it translating the input to scancodes twice
L1752[23:10:02] <gamax92> lol
L1753[23:10:11] <Cinder> lperkins2: if you're making an x86 emulator, make it a 80286 emulator
L1754[23:10:13] <Cinder> just for the lulz
L1755[23:10:22] <gamax92> lol fuck no
L1756[23:10:35] <lperkins2> It'll operate in 8086 mode.
L1757[23:10:47] <lperkins2> But the instruction set is basically 686
L1758[23:11:02] <lperkins2> And I'm not making an x86 emulator, just wrapping an existing one into OC
L1759[23:11:05] <Cinder> thweet
L1760[23:11:06] <Cinder> brb
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L1762[23:12:18] <Cinder> I know assembly for the following archtectures: 6800, 6502, 68000, and x86.
L1763[23:12:46] <lperkins2> Heh, my hope is to make GCC available, at the least.
L1764[23:12:54] <lperkins2> I'm trying to boot TTYLinux right now.
L1765[23:13:02] <gamax92> ooohschamp
L1766[23:13:28] <Cinder> TTYLinux still needs a coprocesser, doesn't it?
L1767[23:13:53] <lperkins2> What sort of coprocesser?
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L1769[23:14:14] <Cinder> one that supports floating points, like the 487 coprocesser
L1770[23:15:09] <lperkins2> Um, probably, JPC includes all that.
L1771[23:15:35] <lperkins2> TTY linux is a 10 year old micro distribution (18MB total, needs 24M memory)
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L1773[23:17:22] <Cinder> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Multiple entries with same key: OpenComputers=FMLMod:OpenComputers{1.4.5.28} and OpenComputers=FMLMod:OpenComputers{1.4.5.28}
L1774[23:17:31] <Cinder> how the fluck did I manage that?
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L1778[23:22:09] <lperkins2> Two copies of OC in the mods folder
L1779[23:22:25] <lperkins2> (same version, so one must be renamed or stuck inside a different archive)
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L1781[23:24:11] <lperkins2> This is kinda painfully slow :)
L1782[23:24:19] <lperkins2> But it is working,
L1783[23:24:36] <lperkins2> the opcode error was about unknown keys I think, since I'm not getting it now that I fixed that...
L1784[23:25:16] <Sangar> Cinder, probably :dev in your build.gradle dep? unless you don't need to access internal oc classes (which you usually shouldn't anyway) use :api; otherwise teach your ide to ignore the lib during runtime (in intellij it's the "provided" mode)
L1785[23:28:44] <lperkins2> Hm, it reads : as E...
L1786[23:29:51] <gamax92> Sangar: unless you are me :3 (Audio.scala)
L1787[23:30:16] <Sangar> yes. "usually" ;)
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L1791[23:42:13] <lperkins2> How do I pull the number of connected monitors in a screen from TextBuffer?
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L1793[23:47:50] <gamax92> Sangar: do screens implement/extend TextBuffer
L1794[23:48:18] <gamax92> or does it just so happen that host() is a TextBuffer
L1795[23:48:36] <Cinder> Sangar: Thank you, that fixed it
L1796[23:50:10] <Sangar> lperkins2, try getAspectRatio
L1797[23:50:40] <Cinder> :api includes javadoc, correct?
L1798[23:50:46] <Cinder> or do I have to specify a dependency for that
L1799[23:50:50] <lperkins2> Um, doesn't that just give the ratio of the two?
L1800[23:50:52] <Sangar> gamax92, the screen te has an instance of a textbuffer, it's not the textbuffer itself (but it is the host, yes)
L1801[23:50:56] <lperkins2> It says it returns a double.
L1802[23:51:25] <Sangar> lperkins2, ah, dang. yeah. it only stores the actual values internally. hmmm.
L1803[23:52:15] <Sangar> Cinder, i'm not sure. depending on your ide it should be clever enough to download it automatically though (there a -javadoc jar going with the normal jars in the maven, which afaik is standard/convention)
L1804[23:52:17] <lperkins2> I want to keep it at the 150x50 characters per screen for this...
L1805[23:52:35] <gamax92> 160*
L1806[23:52:45] <lperkins2> Er, yeah.
L1807[23:52:48] <gamax92> :P
L1808[23:54:14] <Cinder> Sangar: I'm using Gradle + Eclipse
L1809[23:54:35] <Sangar> Cinder, theeen idk, haven't used eclipse in years :/
L1810[23:54:53] <gamax92> i usually get a javadoc included
L1811[23:54:58] <gamax92> I also use :dev so ...
L1812[23:54:58] <Cinder> okay
L1813[23:55:19] <Cinder> gamax92: if your build.gradle is anything to go by, you're also using 1.4.0
L1814[23:55:38] <gamax92> oh well some of them are outdated :P
L1815[23:55:58] <Cinder> the one you linked me was using 1.4.0
L1816[23:56:03] <Dashkal> Cinder: It might be as simple as annotating the dep in gradle. This is how it's done in sbt/maven. Check the gradle dep docs for more information.
L1817[23:56:08] <gamax92> i dunno i just use what Techokami's pr had
L1818[23:56:12] <gamax92> which had :dev
L1819[23:56:13] <gamax92> so i used that
L1820[23:56:14] <Dashkal> I just downloaded the javadoc and extracted it by hand
L1821[23:56:28] <Cinder> I think API should include the javadoc
L1822[23:56:31] <Cinder> we'll see
L1823[23:57:17] <Dashkal> If it does, that's some magic going on. Javadoc is just another artifact in the maven ecosystem. (Of which gradle can interface with)
L1824[23:57:37] <Sangar> lperkins2, no api access to the underlying size (aspectratio would have been kinda hacky anyway)... guess i could add something for the screen to the api.internal package. i'll look into it tomorrow.
L1825[23:57:47] <Sangar> because i'm off for today. gnight o/
L1826[23:57:49] <lperkins2> No hurry,
L1827[23:58:00] <Cinder> Dashkal: You're right, it only downloaded -api and -sources jars
L1828[23:58:02] <lperkins2> I know how big my screen is, and it won't change, so I just hardcoded it for now.
L1829[23:58:17] <Cinder> dev, dev-api, and dev-sources
L1830[23:58:39] <Dashkal> Cinder: For maven and sbt, asking for javadoc is an annotation of some sort on the dep line. Should be the same in gradle.
L1831[23:58:58] <Cinder> I know that
L1832[23:59:04] <Dashkal> I never bother. I just download the javadoc, extract, and open it in the browser.
L1833[23:59:12] <Dashkal> Or use sources and ctrl-click in
L1834[23:59:19] <Cinder> You have to remember I'm just getting started here, Gradle is absoultely new to me.
L1835[23:59:23] <vifino> I need things to code ¬_¬
L1836[23:59:37] <Dashkal> Cinder: I'm being vague because I simply don't know the annotation. I use sbt in personal projects.
L1837[23:59:58] <Cinder> okay
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