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L14[00:57:36] <Pwootage> ds84182: how goes ARM? I missed most of IRC this weekend
L15[00:57:56] <ds84182> I wasn't really working on it this weekend
L16[00:58:19] <Csstform> http://pyx-2.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=56 password is babble
L17[01:02:26] <Pwootage> ds84182: well then I didn't miss anything :P
L18[01:02:28] <Pwootage> thanks
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L21[01:17:51] <pong> mfw
L22[01:18:02] <pong> waiting for the czar, checks imgur
L23[01:18:07] <pong> comes back half an hour later
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L26[01:23:08] <Csstform> pong: gg
L27[01:23:19] <pong> Csstform, ;-;
L28[01:23:28] <Csstform> there's still room maybe
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L31[01:26:46] <Pwootage> Uh, anyone know when OCJam is going to be?
L32[01:26:54] <Pwootage> I probably should find the post
L33[01:27:08] <Csstform> Pwootage: you need to sign up
L34[01:27:14] <Pwootage> Csstform: I did, it asked which weekend
L35[01:27:21] <Csstform> and what did you say?
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L37[01:27:35] <Pwootage> all of the above
L38[01:27:36] <Pwootage> :P
L39[01:27:38] <Csstform> k
L40[01:27:39] <Csstform> well
L41[01:27:50] <Csstform> I have to look through and see what the best weekend is
L42[01:27:57] <Csstform> I'll probably do that tomorrow
L43[01:28:04] <Csstform> or later tonight if I have a chance
L44[01:28:11] <Pwootage> k
L45[01:28:20] <Csstform> I'll post it on the forums, and in the topic of #ocjam
L46[01:28:21] <Pwootage> end of the month or start of next month it seems
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L52[02:01:54] <Caitlyn> Oh nice... webchat's whois doesn't show idle time
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L60[02:33:23] <danphone> hi
L61[02:36:02] <Caitlyn> o/
L62[02:36:59] <lperkins2> Hm, can you use a redstone card at a distance?
L63[02:37:12] <lperkins2> Probably need to run a redstone line in...
L64[02:38:20] <danphone> what do you mean?
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L68[02:41:16] <Sandra> mornin all.
L69[02:41:26] <Sandra> or actually afternoon huh.
L70[02:44:00] <pong> but its 9 PM
L71[02:45:46] <Sandra> it's 1:45pm.
L72[02:46:35] <pong> no..
L73[02:46:41] <pong> .> os.date()
L74[02:46:41] <^v> pong, Mon Jan 19 21:46:42 2015
L75[02:46:46] <pong> its 9 PM
L76[02:46:49] <pong> ^v says so
L77[02:47:25] <Sandra> ^v lies.
L78[02:47:42] <pong> ^v is masterrace though
L79[02:48:19] <Sandra> ^v LIES!
L80[02:48:22] <danphone> morning here
L81[02:48:31] <pong> do you even east coast...
L82[02:48:47] <Sandra> I do even east coast.
L83[02:48:51] <Sandra> of australia.
L84[02:49:25] <pong> 'murica or gtfo
L85[02:49:25] <danphone> east is what directiin on map?
L86[02:49:30] <Sandra> right.
L87[02:49:35] <pong> on unrelated note, skype is using 120MB
L88[02:49:57] <danphone> for what?
L89[02:50:03] <pong> memory
L90[02:50:17] <Sandra> that's not that much tbh,
L91[02:50:34] <pong> for a chat program its fucking insane
L92[02:51:12] <danphone> i hope drones will be able to carry robots
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L94[02:51:53] <danphone> .-.
L95[02:53:01] <Sandra> Nah, hangouts uses about that much.
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L100[03:02:08] <danphone> huh
L101[03:02:14] <danphone> wtf was that
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L103[03:02:33] <danphone> WHAT THE FUCK NVIDIA
L104[03:03:31] <danphone> huh
L105[03:03:45] <danphone> what was that?
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L107[03:16:26] <ping> mfw
L108[03:16:34] <Keridos> is there a way in OC to start some program in a different thread?
L109[03:16:47] <Keridos> so i can have GUI stuff while a different process outputs redstone?
L110[03:16:50] <ping> the mouse i have been using for awhile is almost as old as me
L111[03:17:01] <JjStAr992_Gaming> CC had parralel
L112[03:17:06] <JjStAr992_Gaming> idk for oc
L113[03:19:10] <Alissa> parallel is super-easy to implement into OC if you actually tried.
L114[03:19:59] <ds84182> Alissa: false
L115[03:20:11] <Alissa> ds84182: notfalse
L116[03:20:16] <ds84182> if you want signals to work correctly it requires a worse solution
L117[03:20:33] <Alissa> eeeeh, I've yet to really use OC lua.
L118[03:20:38] <ds84182> ...
L119[03:20:43] <ds84182> why are you even here
L120[03:20:54] <ping> i dont even use OC anymore ._.
L121[03:20:59] <ping> !devoice ping
L122[03:21:00] zsh sets mode: -v on ping
L123[03:21:00] <Alissa> I'm pretty sure I've been invited here three times.
L124[03:21:03] <ping> !kick ping
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L126[03:21:13] <ds84182> ...
L127[03:21:26] <Alissa> well, not invited but told to join.
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L133[03:35:50] <ds84182> Caitlyn: hey, whats going on with the disconnects?
L134[03:36:18] <Katie> Issues with the host server... should be done
L135[03:36:30] <Katie> the most recent one is because there were roughly 700 of boop running
L136[03:36:43] <Katie> because of a typo in my cron I setup to start boop :P
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L138[03:37:03] <Alissa> at least it's not a fork() bug making 2000 Boop's
L139[03:37:05] <Katie> a load of 11 on an 8 core system is bad.
L140[03:37:40] <Katie> Oh sorry
L141[03:37:41] <Katie> load average: 0.47, 10.78, 27.04
L142[03:37:48] <Katie> it capped at 27 lmao
L143[03:38:41] <Sandra> Keridos: not with OpenOS, but it's completely possible if you have your own OS.
L144[03:38:58] <Sandra> or if you design your program running stuff in a different thread.
L145[03:39:09] <Sandra> coroutines are a thing.
L146[03:39:50] <ds84182> Alissa: wait what
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L148[03:40:26] <Michiyo> o_O
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L153[03:40:46] <Alissa> ds84182: i once did a stupid and set PotaDOSv3 to posix.fork() a thing and it made waaaay too many bots.
L154[03:41:11] <ds84182> oh
L155[03:41:13] <ds84182> dam
L156[03:41:30] <ds84182> you always need to os.exit the child when you are finished :P
L157[03:41:33] <Alissa> yeah
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L159[03:41:55] <Alissa> i just added a basic posix utils wrapper to my todo list.
L160[03:42:00] <Pwootage> I have so much work to do, and yet all I am doing is playing MC, planning for ARM-OC, and planning for OCJam
L161[03:42:01] <Caitlyn> But yeah... ds84182 everything should be good now...
L162[03:42:10] <dangranos> any linux distro that can fit into under 50M?
L163[03:42:12] <Alissa> one that has a split() with two functions as arguments, where the second exits and the first returns.
L164[03:42:20] <dangranos> preferably static
L165[03:42:39] <Caitlyn> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
L166[03:42:40] <Caitlyn> 50mb
L167[03:42:45] <Alissa> dangranos: i think DSM would be usefulto you.
L168[03:42:49] <JjStAr992_Gaming> dsl
L169[03:42:50] <Caitlyn> under is gonna be hard
L170[03:42:51] <Alissa> ninja.
L171[03:42:54] <JjStAr992_Gaming> maybe puppy
L172[03:43:03] <ds84182> mmmk
L173[03:43:10] <dangranos> i really dont want to resize /boot
L174[03:43:14] <Sandra> tinycore is like 10mb.
L175[03:43:19] <Sandra> microcore is like 4.
L176[03:43:35] <Caitlyn> yeah and those are like hwhat the kernel...
L177[03:43:37] <Caitlyn> and..
L178[03:43:43] <JjStAr992_Gaming> nvm puppy is 100mb
L179[03:43:44] <Caitlyn> magic blue smoke? :P
L180[03:43:47] <Sandra> the kernel and an initram disk.
L181[03:44:01] <Sandra> boots entirely into ram.
L182[03:44:11] <Sandra> tinycore has a full x server.
L183[03:44:15] <Sandra> :P
L184[03:44:17] <Pwootage> impressive
L185[03:44:37] <dangranos> i wanted to have "emergency" linux on boot partition
L186[03:44:47] <Sandra> yep, tinycore is pretty good for that.
L187[03:45:10] <Pwootage> hm, what's the smallest distro for command-line booting?
L188[03:45:16] <Sandra> microcore.
L189[03:45:19] <Sandra> 4MB.
L190[03:45:28] <Sandra> or something like that.
L191[03:45:30] <dangranos> it can fit into OC
L192[03:45:31] <dangranos> :O
L193[03:45:35] <gamax92> except not.
L194[03:45:55] <dangranos> huh?
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L196[03:46:38] <Sandra> tiny and microcore both consist of busybox and a package manager pretty much.
L197[03:47:00] <Sandra> tiny also contains a x server, a web browser, and a couple of other stuff.
L198[03:47:18] <dangranos> +11 mb?
L199[03:47:19] <gamax92> i need the tiniest linux distro
L200[03:47:42] <gamax92> like ... no X, minimal programs, minimal support for anything.
L201[03:47:43] <dangranos> gamax92, kernel + minimal drivers + minimal shell?
L202[03:47:47] <gamax92> yes
L203[03:47:49] <Sandra> gamax92: microcore.
L204[03:47:52] <gamax92> lolno
L205[03:47:55] <gamax92> lolololono
L206[03:48:00] <Sandra> that's exactly what it is though.
L207[03:48:13] <gamax92> if it runs on your computer and mine, then nope
L208[03:48:21] <gamax92> because you likely have drivers that i don't need
L209[03:48:27] <gamax92> and therefor they need to be removed.
L210[03:48:40] <Sandra> what, why?
L211[03:48:46] <gamax92> >minimal drivers
L212[03:48:59] <gamax92> like, only the ones i need for this specific machine
L213[03:49:01] <JjStAr992_Gaming> dsl is 50mb, not sure about minimal drivers tho
L214[03:49:13] <Sandra> oh I got the sizes wrong, microcore is 8mb, and tinycore is 12mb.
L215[03:49:20] <Pwootage> sounds like someone is going to be compiling the kernel
L216[03:49:35] <Pwootage> x86 comes with a TON of drivers
L217[03:49:38] <gamax92> Pwootage: yes and that, with native optimizations :D
L218[03:50:24] <dangranos> i ma scared of you :|
L219[03:50:28] <dangranos> *am
L220[03:50:30] <gamax92> good
L221[03:50:34] <Pwootage> the only time -OS is useful
L222[03:50:34] <Sandra> http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/
L223[03:50:40] <dangranos> hmm
L224[03:50:50] <gamax92> nanocore
L225[03:51:16] <gamax92> like the kernel but lots of features stripped out.
L226[03:51:18] <dangranos> is it possible to resize partition without losing anything (not filled ofc)
L227[03:51:23] <Sandra> you could use the tinycore thing with your own kernel.
L228[03:51:23] <gamax92> yeah
L229[03:51:28] <gamax92> that is possible
L230[03:51:44] <dangranos> and how?
L231[03:52:22] <dangranos> i need to shrink it
L232[03:52:27] <dangranos> from beggining
L233[03:52:43] <Sandra> that should be completely possible.
L234[03:52:45] <Pwootage> Uh, what type of partition
L235[03:52:50] <Sandra> is it defragged?
L236[03:53:01] <Pwootage> if you're NTFS, you'll have to defrag + resize from not-windows
L237[03:53:04] <dangranos> ext4
L238[03:53:12] <Pwootage> ext4 you can just resize
L239[03:53:13] <dangranos> root partition
L240[03:53:25] <Sandra> yeah, just resize it and it'll be fine.
L241[03:53:30] <Pwootage> boot into a disk and resize it
L242[03:53:33] <Pwootage> using gparted or whatever
L243[03:53:37] <Caitlyn> gparted ftw
L244[03:53:41] <Sandra> (reccomend backing it up first though if you can.)
L245[03:53:43] <Pwootage> gparted is amazing
L246[03:53:56] <dangranos> i'll tar everything onto windows partition
L247[03:53:59] <Sandra> yeah, gparted is the best partition thing.
L248[03:54:36] <dangranos> how fast are ssd compared to hdd?
L249[03:54:41] <Pwootage> so much faster
L250[03:54:43] <Pwootage> 10x or more
L251[03:54:45] <gamax92> gparted is amazebals
L252[03:54:46] <Sandra> very fast yes.
L253[03:54:56] <dangranos> i want one :(
L254[03:55:02] <gamax92> I have CF IDE
L255[03:55:09] <Pwootage> random reads on my HDD ~10mb/s, random reads on my SSD are >100mb/s
L256[03:55:14] <Sandra> Apparently my chromebook is ready to pick up.
L257[03:55:16] <dangranos> iirc, they have limited read/write cycle?
L258[03:55:20] <Pwootage> sequential 100mb and 600mb, respectively
L259[03:55:32] <Pwootage> the r/w cycle limit is often more time than your average HDD failure time
L260[03:55:37] <Pwootage> (as long as you disable swap)
L261[03:55:51] <gamax92> wait so using one as swap is not a good idea?
L262[03:56:02] <dangranos> i guess swap will eat it a lot faster?
L263[03:56:05] <Pwootage> swap will eat your ssd r/w cycles fast
L264[03:56:06] <dangranos> (cycles)
L265[03:56:16] <dangranos> ninja
L266[03:56:18] <gamax92> oh well
L267[03:56:21] <gamax92> there go my plans
L268[03:56:31] <Sandra> my chromebook used swap on it's SSD, it seemed fine.
L269[03:56:35] <dangranos> wanted to use ssd as RAM?
L270[03:56:39] <Pwootage> it's fine as long as you don' swap often
L271[03:57:03] <Pwootage> my macbook swaps to it's ssd, but osx has smart memory management (at least compared to windows)
L272[03:57:09] <Sandra> but then again I did have to replace it twice in 6 months.
L273[03:57:48] <Pwootage> Still, if you can swap to your HDD and not your HDD your SSD will last a while longer
L274[03:57:54] <Sandra> no wait every 6 months so far.
L275[03:58:08] <Pwootage> nice thing about SSDs is you can tell when you're about to fail and can easily save all your data.
L276[03:58:13] <Pwootage> HDD fails are usually all-or-nothing
L277[03:58:15] <dangranos> lol, i used nearly exactly 50% of root
L278[03:58:25] <Pwootage> dangranos: nice
L279[03:58:53] <dangranos> its "500GB" hdd
L280[03:59:18] <dangranos> actually ~450
L281[03:59:43] <Pwootage> welcome to hdd market
L282[04:00:32] <Pwootage> .l (1000*1000*1000)/(1024*1024*1024)
L283[04:00:32] <^v> Pwootage, 0.93132257461548
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L285[04:00:55] <Pwootage> .l (1000*1000*1000)/(1024*1024*1024) * 500
L286[04:00:55] <^v> Pwootage, 465.66128730774
L287[04:01:42] <Keridos> thx sandra
L288[04:02:07] <Sandra> no.... problem?
L289[04:02:17] <Pwootage> Referring to tinycore link, I believe
L290[04:03:31] <Sandra> Maybe the stuff I said about parallel OC stuff.
L291[04:06:15] <Pwootage> well my OS might support threads... might be fun to implement threads :D
L292[04:06:23] <Pwootage> (although you could probably compile pthreads)
L293[04:06:32] <Sandra> yeah, possibly.
L294[04:07:00] <dangranos> Pwootage, its exactly the size of my hdd
L295[04:07:14] <dangranos> oh second one
L296[04:07:15] <Pwootage> dangranos: well there you go. It's 1000 based vs 1024 based.
L297[04:07:24] <dangranos> root is 458.2
L298[04:07:30] <gamax92> uhh
L299[04:07:38] <gamax92> it was probably a bad idea for me to have put linux on this IDE
L300[04:07:38] <dangranos> oh wait
L301[04:07:42] <gamax92> i just realized how slow it is.
L302[04:07:53] <dangranos> forgot that there is 100 mb boot
L303[04:08:07] <dangranos> wai
L304[04:08:10] <dangranos> nevermind
L305[04:09:44] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
L306[04:09:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Skyrim has been running all day
L307[04:10:02] <ShadowKatStudios> And it isn't freezing my system
L308[04:10:42] <gamax92> #lua 127/58
L309[04:10:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2.1896551724138
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L312[04:14:24] <Alissa> so you all know about computery things (off topic), how can I make it so specific users can have some permissions for a directory?
L313[04:14:45] <Alissa> like I want two users to be able to do a thing but a third not.
L314[04:15:01] <Alissa> and this is on Ubuntu, btw.
L315[04:15:12] <Caitlyn> groups
L316[04:15:30] <Alissa> and can users be in more than one group at a time?
L317[04:15:33] <Caitlyn> stick the 2 users in some group, chown the directory to include that group
L318[04:15:34] <Caitlyn> yes
L319[04:15:47] <Caitlyn> and give that group read/write on said directory
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L321[04:16:48] <Alissa> alrighty.
L322[04:17:04] <gamax92> I added 5GB more swap to my computer
L323[04:17:11] <gamax92> from the much faster drive as well
L324[04:18:47] <Caitlyn> Oh good my @Reboots aren't running
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L326[04:20:02] <Alissa> Caitlyn: And is there a way to make any files in it belong to the group?
L327[04:20:35] <dangranos> note to self: leave 1 GB gap before root partition, then fill it with bootloader/etc
L328[04:20:36] <Caitlyn> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html
L329[04:20:44] <dangranos> or 500 mb
L330[04:21:05] <dangranos> um
L331[04:21:11] <dangranos> umask is chmod?
L332[04:21:20] <Caitlyn> setfacl -d -m group:rwx /path/to/your/dir
L333[04:21:27] <Caitlyn> will do it per directory instead of per user
L334[04:21:42] <Caitlyn> umask is inverted from chmod :p
L335[04:21:52] <dangranos> oh
L336[04:22:08] <Caitlyn> umask sets a users default permissions
L337[04:22:17] <Caitlyn> 022 is 755
L338[04:22:52] <Kodos> So apparently headaches in your spine are a thing
L339[04:23:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Just as much as sore necks are.
L340[04:23:32] <Alissa> bash: setfacl: command not found
L341[04:23:36] * Alissa goes to spam Google for a bit
L342[04:23:58] <dangranos> >https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/830#issuecomment-70602639
L343[04:24:17] <Kodos> wat
L344[04:24:18] <Caitlyn> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/setfacl.1.html
L345[04:24:23] <dangranos> i wish other tiered mods were like this
L346[04:25:48] <Caitlyn> Alissa, sudo apt-get install acl if you've not already figured it out
L347[04:26:26] <dangranos> i guess taring live system is bad idea?
L348[04:26:28] <Caitlyn> or.. agi acl if you're like me and have that shit aliased
L349[04:26:31] <dangranos> from this system
L350[04:26:58] <Alissa> setfacl: Option -m: Invalid argument near character 7
L351[04:27:00] <Alissa> i'm done for now.
L352[04:27:04] <Alissa> gonna do a thing
L353[04:28:10] <dangranos> can anyone help me install EFI grub?
L354[04:28:15] <dangranos> *grub2
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L356[04:28:23] * gamax92 has never gotten efi grub to work
L357[04:29:00] <Caitlyn> Alissa, try the answer to this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/193424/assigning-different-directory-permission-for-each-different-groups
L358[04:29:12] <Caitlyn> skip to 4)
L359[04:29:34] <Caitlyn> well... 3 I guess
L360[04:29:41] <dangranos> is it bad that i use /home/samba as samba shared folder?
L361[04:30:07] <Caitlyn> Yes, the assassins will be by shortly
L362[04:30:42] <dangranos> </sarcasm>
L363[04:31:07] <Caitlyn> </totallyserious>
L364[04:31:12] <ShadowKatStudios> It's obviously meant to be /srv/samba
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L366[04:34:31] <dangranos> it also 777 .-.
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L368[04:37:30] <ShadowKatStudios> "That door looks perfect for hiding an ambush" There's an ambush, then?
L369[04:37:44] <dangranos> you are being paranoidal
L370[04:37:58] <dangranos> but in games/movies there always ambush behind it
L371[04:38:06] <ShadowKatStudios> The NPC dude I'm dungeoning with just said it.
L372[04:38:09] <ShadowKatStudios> There's an ambush
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L375[04:38:23] <dangranos> *story games
L376[04:38:35] <dangranos> *non-sandbox
L377[04:38:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh yeah, dangranos, guess what GPU I have now?
L378[04:38:45] <dangranos> something "Ti"?
L379[04:38:52] <Caitlyn> oooh ooh can I? :P
L380[04:39:05] <ShadowKatStudios> ANyone can guess, but it is not Ti.
L381[04:39:09] <Caitlyn> nvidia GTX 220?
L382[04:39:22] <dangranos> um, motherboard integrated?
L383[04:39:48] <ShadowKatStudios> An underclocked GT220, indeed, Caitlyn- as it turns out, it's not an X
L384[04:40:01] <Caitlyn> AH righ, just a GT
L385[04:40:02] <dangranos> (i could run starbound/opengl on motherboard's GPU it!)
L386[04:40:10] <dangranos> underclocked?
L387[04:40:12] <dangranos> wuuuuuut
L388[04:40:20] <Caitlyn> Yeah had to underclock it for any sort of stability
L389[04:40:30] <ShadowKatStudios> It causes the system to crash running at default clock speeds
L390[04:40:39] <ShadowKatStudios> You get 20 minutes tops
L391[04:40:43] <ShadowKatStudios> 2 minutes in Skyrim
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L393[04:49:42] <ShadowKatStudios> 582 minutes - current session
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L398[04:58:35] <Pwootage> Wierd C++ error #876: "this" is null
L399[05:01:05] <Kodos> I need something to write to keep my mind off of shit
L400[05:01:50] <ShadowKatStudios> ooooo, $70 for a 1TB HDD
L401[05:01:54] <gamax92> Kodos: a oclights2 gui framework
L402[05:01:58] <gamax92> using textures for windows
L403[05:02:03] <ShadowKatStudios> More stuff I can't back up, but y'know
L404[05:02:16] <Kodos> gamax92, preferably something that won't break my brain; I've been up for >24h
L405[05:02:22] <Kodos> And I have to stay up longer to keep an eye on my wife
L406[05:02:28] <gamax92> Kodos: baker cat
L407[05:02:33] <Kodos> dafuq
L408[05:02:39] <ShadowKatStudios> WD blue, even
L409[05:03:01] <dangranos> gmod ate my ram
L410[05:03:12] <ShadowKatStudios> >ancient nord sword of frost
L411[05:03:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes please :D
L412[05:06:03] <dangranos> too bad skyrim cant into multiplayer very well
L413[05:06:15] <DFrostedWang> yea :/
L414[05:07:19] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60mLvBWOMb4
L415[05:07:19] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] Desu Desu Desu 10 hours | by kiptokren | 10h0m | 8w5d ago | 73,398 views | Rated: 4.89/5.00
L416[05:07:25] <gamax92> :D!
L417[05:08:25] <dangranos> too many koreians servers
L418[05:12:54] <Kodos> Okay, whatever I write will have its config at the top of the program, because I cba to write a config file parser
L419[05:15:16] <Kodos> Anyone using anything newer than build 344?
L420[05:17:18] <dangranos> omg
L421[05:17:19] <dangranos> https://trello.com/c/gsPF2oTx/1069-condo-os
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L423[05:17:52] <dangranos> too bad its non-programmable
L424[05:25:18] <Kodos> Are numbers 0-15 acceptable for redstone channel definitions when reading bundled input? Or do I have to specify a color
L425[05:31:28] <Kodos> ~w redstone
L426[05:31:28] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:redstone
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L428[05:36:37] <Keridos> hmmmm, need some advice here: i want to have a program that automatically makes stuff like screen updating and changing component stuf while waiting for an event, how would i do that?
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L430[05:37:09] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Keridos: probably event.listen
L431[05:37:28] <Keridos> can you bind a function that gets called then?
L432[05:37:40] <gamax92> yes
L433[05:37:45] <gamax92> event.listen
L434[05:38:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Know what are awesome?
L435[05:38:47] <ShadowKatStudios> The Dwemer.
L436[05:38:53] <gamax92> The Japanese?
L437[05:38:53] <gamax92> oh
L438[05:39:06] <Keridos> gamax92: how can i pass the event data to the function?
L439[05:39:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Them too, they have cool tech and also good animation
L440[05:39:14] <gamax92> Keridos: event.listen will do that.
L441[05:39:21] <Kodos> you pass the function to the listener, don't you
L442[05:39:25] <Kodos> err
L443[05:39:29] <Kodos> I mean you callback it
L444[05:39:37] <ShadowKatStudios> But the Dwemer have steam-based machinery that has been running since the first era.
L445[05:39:38] <Kodos> ~w event.listen
L446[05:39:38] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L447[05:39:41] <Keridos> so i make a function bla(tablestuff)
L448[05:40:18] <Keridos> and then event.listen automatically gives the table to the parameter of the function?
L449[05:40:34] <Kodos> event.listen(name: string, callback: function): boolean
L450[05:40:34] <Kodos> Register a new event listener that should be called for events with the specified name.
L451[05:40:34] <Kodos> name - name of the signal to listen to.
L452[05:40:34] <Kodos> callback - the function to call if this signal is received. The function will receive the event name it was registered for as first parameter, then all remaining parameters as defined by the signal that caused the event.
L453[05:40:34] <Kodos> Returns: true if the event was successfully registered, false if this function was already registered for this event type.
L454[05:40:36] <Kodos> Whoops
L455[05:40:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> nice kodos
L456[05:40:46] <Kodos> >.>
L457[05:41:07] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Keridos: it returns the name of the event you listened for, then the rest is what event.pull would return
L458[05:41:12] <Keridos> ah ok
L459[05:41:19] <Keridos> so i just need 5 parameters?
L460[05:41:35] <gamax92> sure?
L461[05:41:38] <SuPeRMiNoR2> it depends on what you are listening to
L462[05:41:41] <gamax92> ^
L463[05:41:48] <Keridos> touch event
L464[05:42:01] <gamax92> name,uuid,x,y,button?
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L466[05:42:33] <Keridos> yes
L467[05:43:55] <Kodos> Hmm, now I get to figure out how to set up all 16 channels of bundled cable on a table for quick reading and displaying the status of
L468[05:46:47] <Pwootage> VM for this school project gets 100mips on my macbook nice
L469[05:47:15] <Pwootage> (double what the admitedly much more complex vm I wrote in scala gets)
L470[05:47:26] <Pwootage> (it has interrupts and a more complex MMU and stuff)
L471[05:55:10] <Keridos> can somebody help me here? https://paste.ee/p/OjoDc
L472[05:55:24] <Keridos> i get an out of memory error here
L473[05:56:52] <Kodos> Can you link me that button API
L474[05:58:37] <Keridos> https://paste.ee/p/Rbv18
L475[05:58:49] <Keridos> i do not think the button api is the problem
L476[05:58:51] <Keridos> that one works fine
L477[05:59:02] <Keridos> i think my implementation of the events is buggy
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L479[05:59:16] <SuPeRMiNoR2> have you tried adding more ram XD
L480[05:59:19] <SuPeRMiNoR2> go download some more
L481[05:59:40] <Keridos> it has one tier 3,5
L482[05:59:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> well, add one more?
L483[06:00:06] <Kodos> I never said the button API was buggy, I just wanted it :x
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L485[06:00:32] <Keridos> now it crashes with a very very long crashlog
L486[06:00:36] <SuPeRMiNoR2> we cant really test it without the button api
L487[06:00:49] <Keridos> i just pasted it up there
L488[06:00:57] <Keridos> the second link
L489[06:01:03] <SuPeRMiNoR2> right
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L491[06:03:14] <SuPeRMiNoR2> you dont need to call listen again each time
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L493[06:05:09] <Keridos> hm
L494[06:05:27] <Keridos> now it tells me that funciton expected got nil for the updatescreen command
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L496[06:06:35] <SuPeRMiNoR2> make touch a string
L497[06:06:37] <SuPeRMiNoR2> "touch"
L498[06:06:51] <Keridos> https://paste.ee/p/PI1zY
L499[06:06:55] <Keridos> it already is
L500[06:07:01] <Keridos> the timer on the bottom is causing that
L501[06:07:32] <Keridos> bad argument #2 : expected function got nil
L502[06:07:41] <Keridos> although that should be a function there?
L503[06:07:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> you run the function though
L504[06:08:13] <SuPeRMiNoR2> take off the ()
L505[06:08:49] <SuPeRMiNoR2> since the function returns nothing, it gets nil
L506[06:09:02] <Keridos> ah
L507[06:11:18] <Keridos> hm now my getClick function does not work
L508[06:13:27] <Keridos> does the function get the remaining parameters as table?
L509[06:13:39] <SuPeRMiNoR2> no
L510[06:13:48] <dangranos_> why linux steam is so buggy?
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L512[06:16:38] <SuPeRMiNoR2> here is a version that sorta works Keridos http://pastebin.com/9JypFKn4
L513[06:16:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i tested the reboot button
L514[06:16:47] <SuPeRMiNoR2> anything, off to bed with me
L515[06:17:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> you can remove the print(x,x,y) thing that was a debug part
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L517[06:21:20] <Keridos> thanks
L518[06:22:07] <Keridos> ok for the timer, is the interval in ticks?
L519[06:22:52] <SuPeRMiNoR2> since i still have not left, no, it is seconds
L520[06:23:02] <SuPeRMiNoR2> if you mean event.timer
L521[06:23:06] <Keridos> weird, my program spams redstone atm
L522[06:24:09] <Kodos> How would I serialize a function without calling the function
L523[06:24:49] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i really do have to leave but i have one thing to say, dont use () at the end of functions that are callbacks
L524[06:24:58] <SuPeRMiNoR2> event.timer(1, somefunction)
L525[06:25:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> not event.timer(1, somefunction())
L526[06:25:10] <Keridos> ah ok thanks
L527[06:26:48] <Keridos> ah now it works properly
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L535[06:39:26] <Vexatos> Hey Sangar, you here?
L536[06:42:32] <Kodos> ShadowKatStudios, are you around? If you're busy, I don't want to bother you
L537[06:42:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm?
L538[06:42:48] <Kodos> Do you still have that Print.lua file you wrote for OpenPrinter?
L539[06:42:58] <ShadowKatStudios> It's on the forums, I believe
L540[06:43:03] <Kodos> Is it? I'll look again
L541[06:43:05] <Kodos> I likely missed it
L542[06:43:11] <Kodos> I'm dozing off as it is
L543[06:43:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Kodos: http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/87-printlua/
L544[06:43:37] <Kodos> Ah, thank you
L545[06:43:44] <ShadowKatStudios> I changed my avatar, so that could've confused you, too.
L546[06:44:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Dunno if it still works.
L547[06:44:32] <Kodos> I'm going to clean it up and make it wrap (I hope)
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L551[07:31:09] <Sandrafk> Hey #oc, what DE/WM should I put on my new chromebook?
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L553[07:31:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Sandra: Xfce4
L554[07:31:46] <Sandra> ewwwwww.....
L555[07:31:52] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L556[07:32:11] <Sandra> I guess I've not tried that yet but ewwwwwww......
L557[07:32:21] <ShadowKatStudios> What's wrong with Xfce?
L558[07:32:37] <gamax92> Tim's Window Manager
L559[07:32:39] <Sandra> Is ugly and slow.
L560[07:32:48] <gamax92> pfffffft ... xfce slow ...
L561[07:32:50] <gamax92> hahahahahahahahahaha
L562[07:32:54] <ShadowKatStudios> ^
L563[07:32:56] <gamax92> good one.
L564[07:33:03] <Sandra> yeah maybe not slow.
L565[07:33:05] <Sandra> but ugly.
L566[07:33:08] <ShadowKatStudios> And "ugly" depends on how you make it look- this is Linux, after all.
L567[07:33:14] <Pwootage> it is kinda ugly by default
L568[07:33:16] <Pwootage> not terrible
L569[07:33:18] <Pwootage> but not great
L570[07:33:27] * gamax92 gives Sandra Tab Window Manager
L571[07:33:28] <Sandra> Enlightenment was good looking and insanely fast somehow.
L572[07:33:29] <Pwootage> low-res and poorly lined
L573[07:33:41] <gamax92> here enjoy twm
L574[07:33:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Isn't Enlightenment crashy?
L575[07:33:49] <Pwootage> I'm looking forward to the MD linux distro
L576[07:33:59] <Sandra> Enlightenment was very crashy,
L577[07:34:09] <Sandra> but it was fast as hell.
L578[07:35:13] <Pwootage> anyway it's sleepin' time
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L580[07:35:43] <Sandra> I guess I could try XFCE, sure.
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L582[07:36:16] <Sandra> Ooh, there's a crouton extension now.
L583[07:36:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Sandra: Get the Haiku icon pack and a nice theme for Xfce and it looks damn good.
L584[07:37:41] <Sandra> mmm.
L585[07:38:41] <Sandra> Required to support the "xiwi" target, which puts X11 in a native window. WHAT OMG!
L586[07:38:49] <Sandra> :P
L587[07:39:03] <Sandra> Crouton has gotten way cooler since last time.
L588[07:39:22] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: http://i.imgur.com/OIDgDsz.png
L589[07:39:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Minimal and- wait wtf is in the terminal?
L590[07:40:06] <gamax92> a shell that doesn't understand the PS1
L591[07:40:40] <Sandra> what a shell.
L592[07:40:59] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: i'm glad you like it, get twm today!
L593[07:41:06] <gamax92> for only 0 payments of $0!
L594[07:41:13] <gamax92> What a deal!
L595[07:41:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Do I still have to provide my credit card details?
L596[07:41:32] <Sandra> also what version of ubuntu should I run?
L597[07:41:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Ewww Ubuntu
L598[07:41:54] <gamax92> Eww ShadowKatStudios
L599[07:41:58] <ShadowKatStudios> If it has to be Ubuntu, get the one starting with X
L600[07:41:58] <Sandra> crouton only supports ubuntu or debian.
L601[07:42:09] <gamax92> what about linux mint debian
L602[07:42:14] <Sandra> no.
L603[07:42:21] <gamax92> what about linux mint
L604[07:42:25] <Sandra> no.
L605[07:42:37] <gamax92> Sandra: well i just said your two options and you denied both.
L606[07:42:47] <Sandra> well sort of, but that has to be done manually, and I really don't feel like doing those.
L607[07:43:16] <Sandra> It definitely doesn't support anything that doesn't use dpkg.
L608[07:43:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Get the Xfce version of Debian Jessie
L609[07:43:30] <gamax92> Sandra: both of those have dpkg .-.
L610[07:43:39] <Sandra> I know.
L611[07:44:08] <Sandra> ShadowKatStudios: but how up to date is that? answer, probably not very, knowing debian.
L612[07:44:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Debian Jessie is the testing version of Debian
L613[07:44:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Dunno how "up to date" it is, but better than 7.7
L614[07:45:04] <Sandra> and it's not the xfce version of debian, it's a minimal debian, with xfce installed.
L615[07:45:17] <gamax92> brb twm fucked up marco
L616[07:45:18] <Sandra> and I want to use ubuntu anyway.
L617[07:45:24] <Sandra> because debian is ewwwww.
L618[07:45:29] <gamax92> Sandra: then get linux mint
L619[07:45:36] <gamax92> or atleast ubuntu mate
L620[07:45:52] <Sandra> gamax92: I'm going for xfce this time.
L621[07:46:00] <gamax92> then get xibuntu
L622[07:46:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Xubuntu or whatever, if you so desire Ubuntu, comes with Xfce
L623[07:46:13] <gamax92> Xubuntu yes
L624[07:46:19] <Sandra> Again, it's a minimal ubuntu, plus XFCE.
L625[07:46:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Probably not up to date, considering it's not rolling-release
L626[07:46:22] <Sandra> that's how it comes.
L627[07:46:26] <Sandra> I can't change that.
L628[07:46:37] <gamax92> they're on 14.04
L629[07:46:43] <gamax92> oh wait, and 14.10
L630[07:46:54] <Sandra> what's the latest name? (repo name)
L631[07:47:10] <gamax92> Utopic Unicorn?
L632[07:47:28] <Sandra> utopic, cool.
L633[07:48:10] <Sandra> let's go xfce,xiwi.
L634[07:48:15] <Sandra> why not.
L635[07:48:56] <Sandra> mmm, utopic is unsupported.
L636[07:48:58] <Sandra> oh well.
L637[07:49:08] <gamax92> ...
L638[07:49:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Can the python-xlib package control windows when you already have a WM?
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L640[07:50:15] <Sandra> WARNING: utopic is an unsupported release. You will likely run into issues, but things may work with some effort. Press Ctrl-C to abort; installation will continue in 5 seconds.
L641[07:51:18] <Sandra> okay, see you guys from xfce chroot in approximately 2 hours.
L642[07:51:24] <Sandra> or more.
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L659[09:07:14] <SKS-Haiku> So I have a Haiku box hooked up to the TV
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L664[09:31:38] <SKS-Haiku> CompanionCube, guess what?
L665[09:31:51] <CompanionCube> SKS-Haiku, you're running Haiku?
L666[09:32:10] <SKS-Haiku> Yes, but not only that. Guess again.
L667[09:32:16] <CompanionCube> idk
L668[09:32:47] <SKS-Haiku> I'm running Haiku on a Pentium 4 HT 3Ghz box that lives under the TV
L669[09:34:05] <CompanionCube> o.o
L670[09:34:30] <Sandra> In other news I think crouton is almost installed.
L671[09:35:16] <SKS-Haiku> CompanionCube: It's actually pretty good at its job.
L672[09:36:38] <SKS-Haiku> It has to rely on CPU rendering, though.
L673[09:37:22] <Sandra> It takes a lot of packages to build a linux. http://paste.ee/p/vVmtS
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L678[09:48:16] <asie> so i'm launching a server today
L679[09:48:23] <asie> a RedLogic/OpenComputers server with Forge-based region protection
L680[09:48:39] <asie> https://twitter.com/asiekierka/status/557464202194214912/photo/1
L681[09:48:50] <asie> a small spoiler of what Kubuxu and marcin212 and magik6k are working on
L682[09:49:18] <dangranos> i want to see it :O
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L684[09:49:33] <dangranos> cpu, i mean
L685[09:49:50] <dangranos> >http://xkcd.com/1474/
L686[09:49:59] <dangranos> 4th screw - hell
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L688[10:01:29] <asie> dangranos: yeah
L689[10:01:32] <asie> i have another spoiler
L690[10:01:37] <asie> http://mediacru.sh/MQLGygZEvs2A
L691[10:01:38] <asie> this is mine
L692[10:01:40] <asie> it's a part of something
L693[10:01:44] <dangranos> i mean in game
L694[10:08:51] <[OC]Timmy94> what i can you to return to an function?
L695[10:09:21] <Sandra> [OC]Timmy94: functions can take and return anything?
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L697[10:09:28] <Sandra> if that's what you mean?
L698[10:11:01] <[OC]Timmy94> my function is started when event "xyz" start, but it stuck when the event is cancel be it self
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L700[10:11:48] <Sandra> you mean with event handlers?
L701[10:11:56] <Sandra> or something else?
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L706[10:42:58] <Sandra> PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE LOOK: http://i.imgur.com/n3dGNHT.png
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L718[11:07:04] <gjgfuj> The default colour scheme in Hexchat is terrible!
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L724[11:35:27] <Cinder> gigfuj: Yes.
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L726[11:37:18] <Sandra> Sandra!~War@ip-109-43-0-148.web.vodafone.de failed to login to gjgfuj. There have been 20 failed login attempts since your last successful login. okay then.
L727[11:43:05] <Cinder> wat
L728[11:43:07] <Cinder> ahaha
L729[11:43:26] <Sandra> goddammit random person trying to steal my name.
L730[11:44:28] <dangranos> Sandra, what is host?
L731[11:44:47] <Sandra> dangranos, what?
L732[11:44:50] <dangranos> wai
L733[11:44:57] <dangranos> this isnt VM?
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L735[11:45:30] <Sandra> oh I posted a pic didn't I.
L736[11:45:35] <Sandra> no, that's a chroot.
L737[11:45:37] <dangranos> what OS is this?
L738[11:45:52] <Sandra> Chrome OS, chrooted into Ubuntu.
L739[11:46:06] <Sandra> with crouton.
L740[11:46:10] <Sandra> crouton <3.
L741[11:46:26] <Sandra> It integrates SO WELL you don't even know.
L742[11:47:03] <Sandra> when running it in windowed mode it basically has all the apps work completely like native apps.
L743[11:47:23] <Sandra> and integrates with chromeos' window manager perfectly.
L744[11:47:30] <Sandra> OMG it's brilliant.
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L750[12:00:54] <Sangar> o/
L751[12:01:21] <Sandra> \o sangar.
L752[12:05:02] <Cinder> \o
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L760[12:58:28] <asie> man
L761[12:58:32] <asie> writing my plot region mod is a bit complex
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L763[13:01:43] <Sandra> asie, plot region mod?
L764[13:02:22] <dangranos> mod?
L765[13:03:00] <Sandra> also, time to test if I can run minecraft actually within chrome os.
L766[13:05:50] <Sandra> It appears that the answer to that question is yes, but you only get 4-10fps.
L767[13:08:30] <Sandra> And I don't think that's because the hardware is too bad to run it, but it's because the X server forwarder can only handle 4-10fps.
L768[13:08:51] <dangranos> ...
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L770[13:08:55] <Sandra> and I guess 4-10fps is playable, but choppy.
L771[13:08:56] <dangranos> no native java?
L772[13:09:08] <Sandra> course not, it's chrome os..
L773[13:09:17] * dangranos stabs google
L774[13:09:22] <Sandra> doesn't come with java because security.
L775[13:09:31] <Sandra> chrome os is VERY secure.
L776[13:09:35] <dangranos> "security" they said
L777[13:09:54] <Sandra> no, chrome os is literally basically unbreakable.
L778[13:10:06] <dangranos> unless google wants it to be
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L780[13:10:33] <Sandra> shush dangranos and your non-trusting ways.
L781[13:10:43] <Sandra> sell your soul to the great googly god.
L782[13:10:52] <dangranos> its cloud OS!
L783[13:11:01] <dangranos> iirc
L784[13:11:07] <dangranos> it is, right?
L785[13:11:13] <Sandra> yes.
L786[13:11:30] <Sandra> why and how it can be unbreakable.
L787[13:11:31] <dangranos> and aaaaall the data is stored where?
L788[13:11:41] <Sandra> google's servers.
L789[13:12:06] <dangranos> um, it transfers data through internet, to you computer, and then back, right?
L790[13:12:15] <Sandra> yes.
L791[13:12:25] <dangranos> ._.
L792[13:12:27] <Sandra> SSL though.
L793[13:12:41] <dangranos> does NSA has crack for it yet?
L794[13:12:52] <Sandra> idk.
L795[13:12:52] <dangranos> just wondering
L796[13:13:07] <Sandra> and anyway, chrome os is unbreakable at a client level.
L797[13:13:23] <Sandra> the machine itself is completely unbreakable.
L798[13:13:34] <dangranos> even physically? :D
L799[13:13:35] <Sandra> unless of course you enable developer mode.
L800[13:13:44] <Sandra> which you have to do to install crouton
L801[13:13:48] <Sandra> so yaaaay.
L802[13:15:29] <dangranos> aaaand all this security you was talking about isnt so secure now?
L803[13:15:43] <Sandra> yep.
L804[13:15:59] <dangranos> ugh, my english is Awful
L805[13:16:01] <Sandra> of course if you're a normal person who isn't me then it's completely secure.
L806[13:16:25] <dangranos> what is difference of normal and dev mode?
L807[13:16:43] <Sandra> dev mode disables all the security.
L808[13:17:01] * dangranos googles chrome os
L809[13:17:11] <Sandra> gives you free root access to the chromebook.
L810[13:17:17] <dangranos> it cant into external drives?
L811[13:17:28] <dangranos> this is madness!
L812[13:17:28] <EnderBot2> That doesn't surprise me.
L813[13:17:29] <Sandra> what?
L814[13:24:09] <dangranos> i want firefox os on my andoid phone :(
L815[13:24:21] <Sandra> firefox os sucks.
L816[13:24:34] <dangranos> because?
L817[13:24:47] <asie> Sandra: yes
L818[13:24:57] <asie> the map is split into 64x64 areas - 60x60 plots with 2x2 borders
L819[13:25:10] <asie> you can claim a single plot as an user, for more you ask an admin
L820[13:25:24] <asie> you also own borders between neighboring plots belonging to you
L821[13:25:25] <asie> or the same grouo
L822[13:25:26] <dangranos> chmod?
L823[13:25:27] <asie> p
L824[13:25:47] <Sandra> asie, so like those old bukkit plugins that were always on all those servers?
L825[13:26:12] <dangranos> will we get access to WE inside of plots?
L826[13:27:17] <asie> Sandra: yes
L827[13:27:19] <asie> dangranos: yes
L828[13:27:21] <asie> already coded
L829[13:27:27] <asie> you can use WE inside any area you can build in and *only* those
L830[13:27:30] * dangranos hugs asie
L831[13:27:45] <Sandra> WE?
L832[13:28:19] <dangranos> world edit
L833[13:28:26] <Sandra> ah.
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L837[13:39:19] <Timmy94> are some lua guys here, who can speak german?
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L842[14:17:00] <Sandra> Also, XFCE looks a lot nicer now than I remember.
L843[14:18:31] <Caitlyn> I really like it...
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L853[14:59:32] <Vexatos> Okay, my plans for today
L854[14:59:35] <Vexatos> 1. Learn JavaScript
L855[14:59:42] <Vexatos> 2. Make MuseScore plugin
L856[15:01:27] <Vexatos> Blame Cinder
L857[15:03:16] <SkySom> Can we just blame you?
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L859[15:06:35] <EEVV> hey guys can i have a private tutor :P
L860[15:08:20] <Cinder> Ahahaha
L861[15:10:12] <EEVV> hey cinder
L862[15:14:13] <EEVV> Can some one help me with the geolyzer?
L863[15:28:29] <Inari> EEVV: libs are being required because not everyone needs them, also loading them of course uses up memory, and OC has limited memory :p plus that way you can easily load them under different names too :o though i ugess term is usually require'd already anyway and thus cached somewhere and uses memory anyway *shrug*
L864[15:28:53] * dangranos pokes SkySom
L865[15:29:03] <dangranos> huh
L866[15:29:13] <vifino> Inari! Hello! :o
L867[15:29:18] <SkySom> Wut.
L868[15:29:23] <Inari> vifino: ohi?
L869[15:29:29] <vifino> Inari: Ohai!
L870[15:30:22] <vifino> I'm bored ._.
L871[15:30:34] <EEVV> ok thanks inari
L872[15:30:53] <EEVV> and can you make a whole giant optimized program to run on just tier 1 meomory
L873[15:31:10] <Vexatos> Inari, you forgot the "OC uses standard Lua, and in lua you have to require()" part
L874[15:31:13] <Caitlyn> OpenOS does good to run on T1 :P
L875[15:31:30] <Vexatos> Caitlyn, micrOS masterrace
L876[15:31:41] <EEVV> no he didnt
L877[15:31:43] <Caitlyn> Meh.
L878[15:31:50] <EEVV> because i think he said that yesterday
L879[15:31:55] <EEVV> or atleast some one did
L880[15:31:56] <Vexatos> Making a musescore plugin is far easier than I thought it would be
L881[15:32:00] <EEVV> because i moved from cc
L882[15:32:06] <EEVV> and it is confusing for me
L883[15:32:45] <Sangar> http://git.io/7YmWOA
L884[15:32:51] <EEVV> guys
L885[15:32:59] <EEVV> how do i call a function
L886[15:33:22] <EEVV> like i have written everything, now i want to make the function run when ever
L887[15:33:47] <EEVV> Sangar wtf is that
L888[15:34:04] <Caitlyn> that's lua 5.3 tests passing
L889[15:34:05] <Sangar> stuff
L890[15:34:25] <Sangar> now to make an arch out of it...
L891[15:34:33] <Inari> Vexatos: except the require you use appears to be from openos xD
L892[15:34:35] <Caitlyn> heh nice..
L893[15:35:05] <vifino> :O
L894[15:35:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, was is that hard? :P
L895[15:35:16] <vifino> Blender now finally uses my gpu! \o/
L896[15:35:19] <vifino> Butt saved!
L897[15:35:46] <Sangar> Vexatos, not as bad as expected. but the bad parts where in other places than expected :P (coroutine internals changed a bit)
L898[15:36:00] <Vexatos> They did? Well that's not documented anywhere :P
L899[15:36:10] *** g is now known as gAway2002
L900[15:36:12] <Sangar> well yeah, they're internals :P
L901[15:36:24] <Vexatos> Sangar, how will you handle check/opt<Number> in Arguments?
L902[15:36:37] <EEVV> So... Anyone made a game for oc?
L903[15:36:38] <Vexatos> Will you do that like I suggested on the issue?
L904[15:36:48] <Vexatos> EEVV, there is Conway's Game of Life
L905[15:37:03] <EEVV> link :P
L906[15:37:17] <Sangar> Vexatos, probably something along those lines. will also have to extend jnlua to allow native tointeger/pushinteger, for long values.
L907[15:37:26] <Vexatos> Ok
L908[15:37:45] <EEVV> hey guys when i used oc on linux it says that it wont be persistent and wont have virtual memory
L909[15:39:07] *** Cruor|Away is now known as Cruor
L910[15:40:53] <Caitlyn> Sounds like it couldn't load a suitable native library for your os...
L911[15:40:56] <Caitlyn> what distro?
L912[15:42:30] <EEVV> its linux
L913[15:42:41] <EEVV> 14_02 or something
L914[15:42:48] <Caitlyn> Yes... but which linux? Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora
L915[15:42:53] <Caitlyn> suse, arch
L916[15:42:54] <Caitlyn> etc
L917[15:43:06] <EEVV> ubuntu
L918[15:43:24] <Caitlyn> Hmm.... I run OC on ubuntu with no issue o_O
L919[15:43:37] <EEVV> no i mean there is no issue
L920[15:43:39] <EEVV> but
L921[15:43:47] <EEVV> its that i read it on the forums
L922[15:43:55] <EEVV> and im wondering if it is an issue
L923[15:44:03] <EEVV> just because of that im using windows
L924[15:44:24] <vifino> Mmmmh, cycles is eating all my gpu ram.
L925[15:44:27] <Caitlyn> I.. err..
L926[15:44:42] <EEVV> Yes
L927[15:44:45] <Caitlyn> I'm confused so I'm going to excuse myself for a bit... afk
L928[15:44:45] <vifino> I run OC with no issues on Arch.
L929[15:44:47] <EEVV> another opponent speachless
L930[15:44:49] <vifino> And Ubuntu.
L931[15:44:54] <vifino> And OSX, even.
L932[15:44:56] <EEVV> yeah me too
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L934[15:45:07] <EEVV> but i read that it will be jLua or something
L935[15:45:10] <gamax92> I run OC with no problems on Linux Mint
L936[15:45:13] <gamax92> EEVV: Nope
L937[15:45:15] <gamax92> it's native
L938[15:45:30] <gamax92> with full persistence and virtual memory
L939[15:45:47] <EEVV> oh is it?
L940[15:45:51] <gamax92> yes
L941[15:45:52] <EEVV> then im moving to linxu
L942[15:45:55] <EEVV> bye everyone
L943[15:46:05] ⇦ Quits: EEVV (webchat@th-186-47.splius.lt) (Quit: Web client closed)
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L946[15:49:37] <vifino> gamax92: send me an usb cable to germany pls ;_;
L947[15:49:54] * vifino 's dissapeared
L948[15:49:58] <vifino> I blame my dad.
L949[15:50:03] * gamax92 licks vifino instead
L950[15:50:07] <vifino> ._.
L951[15:50:10] *** SKS-Away is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L952[15:50:17] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios! \o/
L953[15:50:21] * vifino hugs ShadowKatStudios
L954[15:50:34] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino! \o/
L955[15:50:42] * ShadowKatStudios hugs vifino
L956[15:50:43] <ShadowKatStudios> How are you?
L957[15:50:51] <vifino> I'm alright, and you?
L958[15:51:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Somwhat frustrated, but dealing with that can wait until my version of tomorrow.
L959[15:51:35] <vifino> o_O
L960[15:51:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Want to know something ironic?
L961[15:52:10] <vifino> Sure.
L962[15:52:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Haiku can't play .mkv files with subtitles
L963[15:52:21] <vifino> Huh?
L964[15:52:29] <ShadowKatStudios> And the latest build has broken most programs.
L965[15:52:37] <vifino> Aw.
L966[15:52:44] <ShadowKatStudios> (Well, most that I use)
L967[15:53:00] <ShadowKatStudios> I had to make a symlink to a library in VLC's lib folder.
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L969[15:53:11] <EEVV> ok halllo
L970[15:53:13] <EEVV> im back
L971[15:53:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Hi.
L972[15:53:48] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Today I discovered that blender can finally use my graphics card!
L973[15:54:03] <gamax92> EEVV: Where did you read that it would be Luaj?
L974[15:54:13] <gamax92> So that it can be corrected
L975[15:54:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Shiny.
L976[15:54:21] <EEVV> ok
L977[15:54:23] <EEVV> let me see
L978[15:54:25] <vifino> And that using my gpu lags out everything.
L979[15:54:28] <vifino> Like, everything.
L980[15:54:38] <ShadowKatStudios> bam
L981[15:54:40] <ShadowKatStudios> welcome to blender
L982[15:54:41] <EEVV> so did it get an update
L983[15:54:43] <gamax92> Like,
L984[15:54:44] <vifino> Rendering using the cpu is faster :x
L985[15:54:45] <gamax92> everything.
L986[15:54:49] <gamax92> vifino: XD wow
L987[15:55:02] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: What sort of terrible GPU do you have?
L988[15:55:12] <EEVV> why are you guys talking about blender cycles rendering, and gpu is faster
L989[15:55:17] <vifino> gamax92: It's a quadcore at 2.8ghz vs a gtx 650 driving a 3k display
L990[15:55:17] <gamax92> Run MC on llvmpipe
L991[15:55:20] <gamax92> EEVV: why not?
L992[15:55:23] <EEVV> lol
L993[15:55:28] <ShadowKatStudios> EEVV: OC has always preferred native to LuaJ
L994[15:55:29] * gamax92 has a gtx 650 ._.
L995[15:55:32] * gamax92 cries
L996[15:55:50] <ShadowKatStudios> EEVV: What about a GeForce 2 driven by a Haswell i7? Then the CPU would be faster.
L997[15:56:09] * ShadowKatStudios has an underclocked GT220
L998[15:56:14] <vifino> gamax92: *650m
L999[15:56:17] <EEVV> This mod uses a native library (included in the ZIP, you don't have to do anything). If you're running Minecraft on something exotic (read: Windows XP or older, PowerPC Mac or Solaris), the mod will enter a 'fallback mode' using LuaJ.
L1000[15:56:17] <vifino> ;_;
L1001[15:56:31] <EEVV> that
L1002[15:56:35] <gamax92> EEVV: linux isn't exotic ... :P
L1003[15:56:40] <EEVV> why would you buy haswell
L1004[15:56:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Because latest?
L1005[15:56:53] <EEVV> i would rather buy 3x nvidia 780ti
L1006[15:56:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Because fuck it I had a budget at one point.
L1007[15:57:00] <gamax92> vifino: m?
L1008[15:57:11] <EEVV> ok thanks gamax
L1009[15:57:14] <vifino> gamax92: mobile card
L1010[15:57:17] <gamax92> OH
L1011[15:57:19] <vifino> aka laptop
L1012[15:57:21] <gamax92> oh ...
L1013[15:57:25] <gamax92> yeaaaah ...
L1014[15:57:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Grats, I had $350 and wanted a RAM upgrade, and my old motherboard only supported 4GB, so I got a whole new set.
L1015[15:57:47] <EEVV> lol
L1016[15:58:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Minus GPU, of course, I
L1017[15:58:09] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: my old board will take up to 64MB max
L1018[15:58:12] <ShadowKatStudios> 'm gonna get a 660 eventually
L1019[15:58:18] <EEVV> this is where the man shouts "ha! Gay!"
L1020[15:58:20] <gamax92> it has 4 slots and will only take 16MB in each slot
L1021[15:58:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Is it a 386 board, perchance?
L1022[15:58:46] <ShadowKatStudios> 406 maybe?
L1023[15:58:49] <ShadowKatStudios> 486*
L1024[15:58:50] <vifino> I need to move my old desktop to the living room and run it 24/7 and get a new computer so I can render stuff properly ;_;
L1025[15:58:51] <gamax92> it has a 486 in it
L1026[15:59:02] <gamax92> iirc max supported is a 486 as well
L1027[15:59:19] <EEVV> cinder are you there?
L1028[15:59:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Heh, I have a 486 box with 32MiB of RAM
L1029[15:59:29] <gamax92> So do I!
L1030[15:59:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Winning.
L1031[15:59:32] <EEVV> thats a lot of ram
L1032[15:59:33] <gamax92> lets be best friends
L1033[15:59:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll pass on that.
L1034[15:59:50] <vifino> gamax92: how2 llvmpipe
L1035[15:59:51] <gamax92> :(
L1036[15:59:58] <ShadowKatStudios> It's safer for you.
L1037[16:00:00] <gamax92> LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1
L1038[16:00:21] <EEVV> how do i make the text red like a pm
L1039[16:00:36] <gamax92> EEVV: Say people's names
L1040[16:00:43] <EEVV> gamax92 test
L1041[16:00:47] <gamax92> :D
L1042[16:00:49] <EEVV> di it work
L1043[16:00:56] <gamax92> (btw its brown here, because yay xchat)
L1044[16:01:00] <vifino> gamax92: i have no idea how to llvmpipe, send halp
L1045[16:01:07] <EEVV> Cinder are you afk
L1046[16:01:09] <gamax92> vifino: i just told you how
L1047[16:01:13] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: halp
L1048[16:01:14] <gamax92> LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1
L1049[16:01:25] * vifino hugs ShadowKatStudios
L1050[16:01:41] <ShadowKatStudios> How well does OCEmulatorQt work?
L1051[16:01:50] <vifino> gamax92: How/why does that improve anything?
L1052[16:01:58] <gamax92> it sets it to llvmpipe
L1053[16:02:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh shit, how do I make on Windows?
L1054[16:02:12] <EEVV> Hello and welcome to the tutorial of open computers. We are going to look at the structure of computers
L1055[16:02:21] <gamax92> Are we?
L1056[16:02:28] <ShadowKatStudios> No.
L1057[16:02:31] <gamax92> oh okay
L1058[16:02:42] <ShadowKatStudios> EEVV is a cake.
L1059[16:02:48] <vifino> CAKE!
L1060[16:02:48] *** skyem123|away is now known as skyem123
L1061[16:02:50] * vifino eats
L1062[16:02:55] <gamax92> D:!
L1063[16:02:57] <gamax92> it's a lie!
L1064[16:03:00] <EEVV> ShadowKatStudios channel link pls
L1065[16:03:05] <Sangar> allright, initial testing passed... http://i.imgur.com/EhoeSt8.png now to make it its own arch >_>
L1066[16:03:06] <vifino> Lies are tasty :o
L1067[16:03:07] <EEVV> Yes
L1068[16:03:09] <gamax92> Sangar!
L1069[16:03:18] <gamax92> arch??
L1070[16:03:19] <ShadowKatStudios> EEVV: Channel link to what?
L1071[16:03:25] <EEVV> WHERE IS YOUR SKIN
L1072[16:03:30] <EEVV> OMFG
L1073[16:03:37] <EEVV> your yt channel
L1074[16:03:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Forge testing env?
L1075[16:03:44] <EEVV> Shadow your yt channel
L1076[16:03:52] <gamax92> Sangar: Isn't this just lua?
L1077[16:03:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Why is my YT channel relevant?
L1078[16:03:59] <EEVV> or is it?
L1079[16:04:00] <Caitlyn> gamax92, lua 5.3
L1080[16:04:05] <Sangar> ^
L1081[16:04:08] <gamax92> but it says lua 5.2
L1082[16:04:09] <ShadowKatStudios> >Lua 5.2.3
L1083[16:04:10] <EEVV> surviving is relevant
L1084[16:04:10] <gamax92> u better fix
L1085[16:04:12] <Sangar> see the |
L1086[16:04:19] * gamax92 shakes fist
L1087[16:04:21] <Caitlyn> https://gist.github.com/fnuecke/1583782075e99dcdc44e
L1088[16:04:24] <Sangar> :P
L1089[16:04:25] * EEVV he
L1090[16:04:26] <dangranos> OSEMUQT?!?!?!
L1091[16:04:27] <Caitlyn> Lua 5.3.0
L1092[16:04:32] <dangranos> WHERE?
L1093[16:04:35] <gamax92> nowhere
L1094[16:04:36] <gamax92> sorry
L1095[16:04:40] <EEVV> D:<
L1096[16:04:41] <ShadowKatStudios> space
L1097[16:04:42] <dangranos> ...
L1098[16:04:44] <EEVV> im going to kill myself
L1099[16:04:44] <Vexatos> Grrrr
L1100[16:04:48] <Vexatos> Qt is annoying
L1101[16:04:49] <vifino> Spaaaaaaaace
L1102[16:04:54] <EEVV> guys can i have a tutor
L1103[16:04:56] <gamax92> Wanna go to spaace!
L1104[16:04:56] * dangranos stabs himself
L1105[16:04:56] <Vexatos> ._.
L1106[16:05:00] <gamax92> EEVV: hi
L1107[16:05:01] <ShadowKatStudios> EEVV: Why do you feel a need to see my YT channel?
L1108[16:05:14] <EEVV> idk shadow
L1109[16:05:25] <EEVV> you probably animate miencraft
L1110[16:05:30] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: there is some external force, that drives him to desire your YT channel
L1111[16:05:33] <ShadowKatStudios> No, I do AI stuff.
L1112[16:05:41] <EEVV> i need a tutor guys :P
L1113[16:05:43] <gamax92> EEVV: hi
L1114[16:05:49] <gamax92> <-- tutor
L1115[16:05:52] * gamax92 is tutor
L1116[16:05:58] <EEVV> gamax92 can we has private chat?
L1117[16:06:03] <EEVV> or no
L1118[16:06:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Does the geolyser upgrade work on drones?
L1119[16:06:07] <dangranos> EEVV <that nickname, win
L1120[16:06:12] <EEVV> lol
L1121[16:06:23] <ShadowKatStudios> gamax92: Someone wants to cyber you, obviously, and their name is EEVV
L1122[16:06:34] *** alekso56 is now known as alekso56_off
L1123[16:06:37] <dangranos> cyber?
L1124[16:06:41] <dangranos> wut .-.
L1125[16:06:57] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: You'll figure it out when you're old enough
L1126[16:07:08] <dangranos> nah, i am just playing dumb
L1127[16:07:21] ⇦ Quits: gamax92 (gamax92@The.Dragon.Slayer.PanicBNC.eu) (Quit: Gazoobadaba!)
L1128[16:07:54] <EEVV> And so my tutor has left me asking "Network 101"
L1129[16:08:09] *** ShadowKatStudios is now known as SKS-Away
L1130[16:08:23] <dangranos> encyclopedia dramatica (and its analogs) is evil
L1131[16:08:23] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Want to play Material Energy ^4 with me? :o
L1132[16:08:28] <vifino> D:
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L1134[16:09:55] <vifino> gamax92: How2llvmpipe in multimc
L1135[16:10:14] <gamax92> LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 ./MultiMC
L1136[16:10:28] <Vexatos> gamax92, I'm writing a MuseScore plugin right now :3
L1137[16:10:37] <gamax92> Vexatos, for OC?
L1138[16:10:41] *** gAway2002 is now known as g
L1139[16:10:46] <gamax92> Hello gdude
L1140[16:10:52] <Vexatos> The plugin is called "OpenComputers Export"
L1141[16:10:56] <g> o/
L1142[16:10:56] <Vexatos> No idea what it could be for
L1143[16:10:56] <gamax92> Vexatos: :D
L1144[16:11:06] <gamax92> Vexatos: its for tapes right?
L1145[16:11:14] <gamax92> It exports music into dfpwm right?
L1146[16:11:14] <Vexatos> It's for the song API
L1147[16:11:16] <Vexatos> duh
L1148[16:11:18] <dangranos> kwin died
L1149[16:11:18] <gamax92> DRATS
L1150[16:11:30] <dangranos> nearly took everything else with itself
L1151[16:11:40] <dangranos> it ate all the CPU
L1152[16:12:00] * dangranos slaps kwin
L1153[16:12:00] * EnderBot2 laughs
L1154[16:12:11] <Vexatos> gamax92, it's a pain
L1155[16:12:37] <gamax92> Q W E R T Y U, I O P A S D F G H, J K L, Z X C, V B, N M, Now I know my Q W E's, Next time won't you sing with me?
L1156[16:12:52] *** SKS-Away is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L1157[16:13:05] <ShadowKatStudios> ffs
L1158[16:13:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Youtube crashed the NVIDIA driver
L1159[16:13:32] <g> gamax92, you have desecrated the holy house of voice by leaving it
L1160[16:13:42] <gamax92> thank you
L1161[16:13:44] <dangranos> nvidia is more unstable than Plasma 5
L1162[16:13:46] zsh sets mode: +v on gamax92
L1163[16:13:51] <dangranos> wai
L1164[16:13:52] <g> :P
L1165[16:13:53] <dangranos> no
L1166[16:13:56] <dangranos> kill me
L1167[16:14:02] <dangranos> i said really stupid thing
L1168[16:14:03] <g> dangranos, later
L1169[16:14:03] <ShadowKatStudios> I don't know whether to blame this shitty factory-fucked 220GT, the fact I'm using Windows or the fact the driver is still 340 like it has to be.
L1170[16:14:24] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: Hi.WTF is material energy ^4?
L1171[16:14:25] <dangranos> g, "meet the medic"?
L1172[16:14:32] <g> uhhuh
L1173[16:14:33] <g> :P
L1174[16:14:50] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: A very nice modpack + map
L1175[16:15:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Sure, why not?
L1176[16:15:09] <vifino> :D
L1177[16:15:14] <ShadowKatStudios> A warning though, the NVIDIA driver is as crashy as my old laptop
L1178[16:15:18] <g> It's time to practise medicine..
L1179[16:15:32] <ShadowKatStudios> (ie the school one with the Windows 8 drivers installed on Windows 7)
L1180[16:15:58] <vifino> Oh god.
L1181[16:16:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Gigabyte GT220 everyone.
L1182[16:16:59] <vifino> LOL, someone crossed a neural network with a drum machine.
L1183[16:17:42] * ShadowKatStudios is watching someone forge a sword
L1184[16:17:43] *** manmaed|AFK is now known as manmaed
L1185[16:18:13] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Give me a bit of time and I'll figure out how to start ME^4, okay?
L1186[16:18:16] <vifino> ;)
L1187[16:18:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Sure.
L1188[16:18:32] *** manmaed is now known as manmaed|AFK
L1189[16:19:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm, the Attack On Titan swords would take ages to make- you'd have to do all the forging and stuff for the blade, and eventually they'd get discarded...
L1190[16:19:51] <ShadowKatStudios> >perm gen to at least 256
L1191[16:19:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Holy shite.
L1192[16:19:55] <EEVV> does anyone know how to use a motion sensor
L1193[16:20:15] *** manmaed|AFK is now known as manmaed
L1194[16:20:26] <ShadowKatStudios> ~w motion sensor
L1195[16:20:26] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:motion_sensor
L1196[16:20:44] <EEVV> but how do i use it
L1197[16:20:56] <EEVV> do i do motion = require("motion_sensor")
L1198[16:21:02] <EEVV> and then motion.getSensitivity and so on?
L1199[16:21:09] <ShadowKatStudios> No idea, does it output any events?
L1200[16:21:27] <EEVV> lol you lost me at "events"
L1201[16:21:41] <ShadowKatStudios> So you got most of my message.
L1202[16:21:44] <ShadowKatStudios> ~w event
L1203[16:21:44] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L1204[16:24:38] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/1-7-10-material-energy-4.57967/
L1205[16:24:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Is it in the FTB launcher?
L1206[16:25:29] <ShadowKatStudios> >Third party
L1207[16:25:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh fuck, I forget how these works
L1208[16:26:06] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Just click launch and you are done.
L1209[16:26:17] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: Where is the computer mod? D:
L1210[16:26:23] <vifino> Okay, now to find a server :/
L1211[16:26:46] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: It's basically a questing map.
L1212[16:26:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Ooohhh.
L1213[16:29:10] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Help me get a server up and running and we'll play!
L1214[16:29:31] <vifino> Actually
L1215[16:29:33] <SkySom> Questing.
L1216[16:29:34] <vifino> There is a server.
L1217[16:29:40] <SkySom> Questing everywhere.
L1218[16:29:52] <SkySom> Yeah download the server and click the run.bat or whatever.
L1219[16:29:59] <SkySom> They make it pretty simple to get it going
L1220[16:30:10] <ShadowKatStudios> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD5vX4yW04c so this is cool
L1221[16:30:10] -Kibibyte- [ShadowKatStudios] Forging the Attack on Titan Sword | by nickwoo2 | 14m55s | 47w2d ago | 223,138 views | Rated: 4.85/5.00
L1222[16:30:24] <vifino> Downloading ME^4 server with 42.3MB/s. Like a baws.
L1223[16:30:44] <ShadowKatStudios> o.o
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L1225[16:32:34] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Can't remember your MC name :(
L1226[16:32:41] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: Downloading ME^4 client at 1.1MB/s. Like a baws with cheap internet.
L1227[16:32:43] <vifino> Would you tell me?
L1228[16:32:48] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: mrminer84403
L1229[16:32:55] <vifino> Thanks.
L1230[16:34:49] <dangranos> ME?
L1231[16:35:15] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Wait for me, the pack needs an update ._.
L1232[16:35:22] <vifino> I downloaded it yesterday >-<
L1233[16:35:25] <vifino> *>_<
L1234[16:35:31] <Vexatos> Okay, now to figure out how to iterate through all chords in a Score
L1235[16:35:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm downloading Mojang files.
L1236[16:35:37] <wolfmitchell> i can't seem to find a dl for this http://i.imgur.com/DZoLS4v.jpg
L1237[16:35:40] <wolfmitchell> lel
L1238[16:35:55] <ShadowKatStudios> wolfmitchell: Try TPB or Kickass
L1239[16:36:05] <wolfmitchell> lel
L1240[16:36:17] <ShadowKatStudios> It may not be avalible through normal channels.
L1241[16:36:20] <dangranos> what is in this modpack?
L1242[16:36:30] <vifino> Current version: 0.7; New version: 1.0.1
L1243[16:36:32] <vifino> FML
L1244[16:37:07] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: hahah
L1245[16:37:38] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Also, I recommend adding fastcraft, it is a good improvement in perfomance.
L1246[16:37:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Noted.
L1247[16:37:50] <wolfmitchell> ^
L1248[16:38:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Stary2001: See, I'm good at downloading RAM, I had to live with only 4GB for 6 months
L1249[16:38:39] <Stary2001> haha
L1250[16:38:40] <Stary2001> gj
L1251[16:38:54] <vifino> O_O
L1252[16:39:03] <vifino> ME^4 now has a fancy uo
L1253[16:39:05] <vifino> *ui
L1254[16:39:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Though Magi6k would be better at it, they share RAM over their LAN
L1255[16:39:50] <SkySom> Only 4... That's not horrid.
L1256[16:39:55] <SkySom> Could be worse
L1257[16:40:21] <vifino> SSHfs swap, hue :3
L1258[16:40:34] <ShadowKatStudios> For several years (until 2011) I was using a Pentium 4 box with 512MiB of RAM.
L1259[16:40:43] <ShadowKatStudios> So it could indeed be worse.
L1260[16:40:48] <dangranos> 8 gb here
L1261[16:40:58] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: You can join now.
L1262[16:40:58] <dangranos> i am tiny :(
L1263[16:41:10] <vifino> Same server address.
L1264[16:41:11] <dangranos> (i mean, RAM)
L1265[16:41:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Then I got a netbook with 1, then a laptop with 2, then an old C2D desktop with 4, and now a Haswell i3 box with 8GB
L1266[16:41:24] <wolfmitchell> For 2009-2011, was on 512mb, 2011-2013, 4gb, 2013-christmas 2013 8gb, christmas '13-now: 16gb
L1267[16:41:27] <wolfmitchell> <3 16gb
L1268[16:41:33] <wolfmitchell> Stary2001, ^ is good at upgradifying lel
L1269[16:41:34] <wolfmitchell> right
L1270[16:41:41] * dangranos throws knife at wolfmitchell
L1271[16:41:49] <wolfmitchell> u wot dangranos
L1272[16:41:51] <Stary2001> yes
L1273[16:41:53] <Stary2001> haa
L1274[16:42:04] <ShadowKatStudios> I've made sure I can squeeze the max RAM out of my motherboard- I got a single 8GB stick, now I need 3 more and I can have 32GB
L1275[16:42:06] <wolfmitchell> u fokkin wot m8 i swur on me mum
L1276[16:42:12] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: It's still downloading Mojang stuff
L1277[16:42:17] <wolfmitchell> I have 4x4gb
L1278[16:42:29] <wolfmitchell> i guess you could say i drive a 4x4 computer lal /s
L1279[16:42:33] <wolfmitchell> am i good at puns
L1280[16:42:34] * dangranos pokes #ocmadness
L1281[16:42:37] <dangranos> its ded
L1282[16:42:56] <vifino> dangranos: ocmadness == oc
L1283[16:43:17] <dangranos> you want to say that #oc is equally ded?
L1284[16:43:22] <wolfmitchell> Stary2001, http://i.imgur.com/qX0aKmn.png http://i.imgur.com/AIfAbya.png
L1285[16:43:23] <vifino> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
L1286[16:43:23] <vifino> #
L1287[16:43:23] <vifino> # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x00007fc082ba82d2, pid=26174, tid=140465596909312
L1288[16:43:24] <wolfmitchell> lal
L1289[16:43:27] * vifino ragequit
L1290[16:43:28] <wolfmitchell> gg vifino
L1291[16:43:37] <wolfmitchell> #g minecraft native launcher
L1292[16:43:37] -Kibibyte- wolfmitchell: 29300 results total; First: We need your help testing a new launcher! : Minecraft - Reddit | http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/2p31cu/we_need_your_help_testing_a_new_launcher/
L1293[16:43:47] <ShadowKatStudios> >consolemasterrace
L1294[16:43:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Hahahahahahaaaaa
L1295[16:43:57] <wolfmitchell> ikr
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L1297[16:44:07] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexaton
L1298[16:44:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Linux Master Race
L1299[16:44:18] <wolfmitchell> http://i.imgur.com/qNWQpdz.png
L1300[16:44:18] <vifino> Reinstalled java like a baws.
L1301[16:44:21] <gamax92> OS/2 Master Race
L1302[16:44:47] <ShadowKatStudios> LinuxMasterRace: We run both the PC race and the console peasants' servers.
L1303[16:44:50] <wolfmitchell> Stary2001, HAHAHAHHA LOOK AT THE FIRST THING THAT COMES UP http://i.imgur.com/CuncGJt.png
L1304[16:45:02] <ShadowKatStudios> They depend on us for their existence
L1305[16:45:05] <Stary2001> LOL
L1306[16:45:07] <Stary2001> YES
L1307[16:45:21] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: lolno
L1308[16:45:31] <Daiyousei> wolfmitchell, ha pcmasterrace
L1309[16:45:38] <Daiyousei> lol buildapc
L1310[16:45:43] <ShadowKatStudios> gamax92? hm?
L1311[16:45:56] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: DOS is where its at
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L1315[16:45:59] <dangranos> can anyone upload ME^4?
L1316[16:46:08] <dangranos> i want it for multimc
L1317[16:46:27] <dangranos> what was that
L1318[16:46:51] <LordFokas> <ShadowKatStudios> LinuxMasterRace: We run both the PC race and the console peasants' servers.
L1319[16:46:55] <LordFokas> not only the servers
L1320[16:47:03] <LordFokas> console OSes are Linux
L1321[16:47:09] <Daiyousei> not all
L1322[16:47:10] <wolfmitchell> xbone is windows iirc
L1323[16:47:18] <Daiyousei> some are custom
L1324[16:47:24] <gamax92> oh no, xbone by Microsoft runs Linux ;)
L1325[16:47:24] <wolfmitchell> like, really stripped down windows 8
L1326[16:47:38] <ShadowKatStudios> LordFokas: SteamOS
L1327[16:47:41] <dangranos> ^
L1328[16:47:42] <LordFokas> XBox up to 360 at least is Linux, PS is linux.
L1329[16:47:53] <wolfmitchell> LordFokas, iirc the 360 was windows too
L1330[16:47:57] <wolfmitchell> #g is the xbox 360 windows based
L1331[16:47:58] -Kibibyte- wolfmitchell: 2480000 results total; First: How to calibrate your Xbox 360 Controller for a Windows-based ... | http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/accessories/calibrate-controller-for-windows-pc
L1332[16:47:58] <LordFokas> not it wasn't
L1333[16:48:00] <wolfmitchell> ..
L1334[16:48:18] <LordFokas> no*
L1335[16:48:23] * gamax92 shows ShadowKatStudios to osdev.org
L1336[16:48:24] <wolfmitchell> gotta go
L1337[16:48:25] <Daiyousei> #g gpl is cancer
L1338[16:48:26] -Kibibyte- Daiyousei: 53400 results total; First: Viral license - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_license
L1339[16:48:28] <Caitlyn> the original xbox used a windows kernel
L1340[16:48:38] <gamax92> #g Caitlyn is always right
L1341[16:48:38] -Kibibyte- gamax92: 175000 results total; First: Caitlyn Leavitt (@caitlynleavitt_) | Twitter | https://twitter.com/caitlynleavitt_
L1342[16:48:44] <gamax92> LOL
L1343[16:48:54] <Caitlyn> highly modified windows 2000 to be exact
L1344[16:48:54] <Daiyousei> #g does stallman's beard absorb children if someone starts using the GPL license?
L1345[16:49:02] <Daiyousei> rofl i broke kibi
L1346[16:49:04] <LordFokas> did it? Wow.
L1347[16:49:11] <dangranos> PS is stahp
L1348[16:49:12] <Caitlyn> IIRC the 360 uses it too
L1349[16:49:14] <dangranos> damn
L1350[16:49:23] <dangranos> just stahp
L1351[16:49:27] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: Listing to a noise generator increase in frequency, hitting a certain frequency, and then dropping.
L1352[16:49:30] <dangranos> i am doing homework :(
L1353[16:49:34] <gamax92> currently its dropping
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L1355[16:49:41] <gamax92> Hi Magik6k
L1356[16:49:47] <Magik6k> ohi
L1357[16:49:54] <Caitlyn> MS states they wrote it from scratch and implemented windows APIs... but people who have poked around at the hardware know better...
L1358[16:50:15] <dangranos> we need proofs
L1359[16:51:12] <gamax92> We need, a revolution
L1360[16:51:26] <dangranos> we are not france
L1361[16:51:44] <gamax92> We need, sandpaper
L1362[16:51:53] <dangranos> what is it?
L1363[16:51:57] <dangranos> #g sandpaper
L1364[16:51:57] -Kibibyte- dangranos: 996000 results total; First: Sandpaper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandpaper
L1365[16:52:23] <dangranos> ah, наждачка
L1366[16:52:41] * gamax92 got scared when you said you didn;t know what sandpaper was
L1367[16:53:08] <dangranos> um, hello? english is my second language
L1368[16:53:21] <dangranos> so, i did knew what that word meant
L1369[16:53:26] <dangranos> *didnt
L1370[16:53:34] <LordFokas> Caitlyn, yup, Xbox is Windows all the way.
L1371[16:53:41] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: ahh okay, so it goes from 0Hz to 4999.9999999Hz and then drops back to 0Hz
L1372[16:53:56] * gamax92 wonders what the math is that makes it go almost to 5000Hz
L1373[16:54:09] <gamax92> oh its actually just 4999.5Hz
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L1377[17:01:59] <Wobbo> o/
L1378[17:02:28] <Timmy94> o/
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L1383[17:16:46] <Vexatos> Bah
L1384[17:16:55] <Vexatos> Does anyone in here know JavaScript?
L1385[17:17:09] <Wobbo> Vexatos: {} + {}
L1386[17:18:09] <Vexatos> what
L1387[17:18:15] <Wobbo> wat
L1388[17:18:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Vexatos: Wobbo is making a reference to https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
L1389[17:20:48] <Wobbo> Vexatos: In Javascript {} + {} == NaN
L1390[17:21:56] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Also fun: Array(16).join("wat" -1) + " Batman!"
L1391[17:22:26] <Wobbo> Vexatos: In reallity, I get most of my Javascript knowledge from that talk, haven't really used it
L1392[17:22:32] <Caitlyn> <LanteaBot> Caitlyn: NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman!
L1393[17:22:54] <Wobbo> Dammit Caitlyn! Now the suprise is gone!
L1394[17:22:58] <Caitlyn> Yep
L1395[17:23:24] <wolfmitchell> http://bad.coffee
L1396[17:23:25] <Caitlyn> it is handy to have a bot that does js.. lol
L1397[17:23:37] <Caitlyn> ha...
L1398[17:24:05] <Wobbo> wolfmitchell: There is also one that refers to Oracle :P
L1399[17:24:14] <wolfmitchell> bad.code? lel
L1400[17:24:21] <wolfmitchell> Stary2001, ^
L1401[17:24:27] <Stary2001> ha
L1402[17:25:27] <wolfmitchell> Wobbo, what is it
L1403[17:25:42] <Wobbo> wolfmitchell: Can't remeber
L1404[17:26:42] <Wobbo> wolfmitchell: bad.solutions
L1405[17:27:00] <wolfmitchell> ha, Wobbo
L1406[17:27:52] <Wobbo> wolfmitchell: My dad works for Oracle, even he got a laugh out of it :P
L1407[17:28:00] <wolfmitchell> heh
L1408[17:33:30] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: :(
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L1410[17:34:00] <dobegor> hello guys
L1411[17:34:08] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: Sorry, I can't adventure map
L1412[17:34:16] <dobegor> is the maximum wireless range the same for Access Point?
L1413[17:34:23] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: I set the difficulty too high :(
L1414[17:34:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I believe so.
L1415[17:34:31] <dobegor> thx
L1416[17:34:45] <dobegor> is there any way to tell computer server as access point?
L1417[17:35:24] <dobegor> I want the computer with Linked card to serve wirless network, so that it would be connected with devices in another part of the map
L1418[17:35:27] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Can you try again, with a reasonable difficulty? :(
L1419[17:35:42] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: Once I finish EpserNet
L1420[17:35:54] <vifino> EpserNet?
L1421[17:35:59] <vifino> What's that?
L1422[17:36:21] <vifino> Wait, EsperNet? D:
L1423[17:36:26] <ShadowKatStudios> An IRC bot I'm working on, it'll relay mesages between lain's IRC and espernet's IRC for my channel
L1424[17:36:37] <Wobbo> dobegor: You would need to write software for it, but it is doable
L1425[17:36:38] <vifino> Oh, I see..
L1426[17:36:42] * vifino sighs
L1427[17:36:50] <vifino> Was worried there for a second :x
L1428[17:37:17] <dangranos> ping
L1429[17:37:29] <dangranos> hmm
L1430[17:37:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Why would you be worried?
L1431[17:38:00] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: I guess he was afraid that you would take over EsperNet :P
L1432[17:38:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, that's next week.
L1433[17:38:43] <Wobbo> So we still have some time to flood australia and stop you? Phew
L1434[17:38:44] <ping> dangranos, what
L1435[17:39:14] <dobegor> Wobbo: yea, I though someone did it already
L1436[17:39:33] <Wobbo> dobegor: Might also be the case, but not that I know of
L1437[17:39:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Wobbo: You would need a single server in Australia with decent upload
L1438[17:40:07] <dobegor> Wobbo: but how can computer catch the send to another?
L1439[17:40:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Flood my site with requests for the images and try to upload stuff to it, suddenly no internet for me
L1440[17:40:21] <dangranos> oh, sorry ping
L1441[17:40:25] <dobegor> i.e. computer A sends data to computer C, computer B serves as wirless bridge
L1442[17:40:33] <dangranos> i was just pinging
L1443[17:40:42] <dangranos> not you
L1444[17:40:43] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: What, you tought I meant flooding the network? I meant Flooding the whole country with water
L1445[17:40:52] <dobegor> idk how Access Point works
L1446[17:41:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, you may have difficulty.
L1447[17:41:07] <dobegor> it seems that it forwards directly
L1448[17:41:19] <ShadowKatStudios> You can't sink Australia- it's in the middle of its geo plate
L1449[17:41:21] <dangranos> best way to flood network - enable pulseaudio multicast
L1450[17:41:41] <dangranos> then we will sink geo plate :P
L1451[17:41:44] <Wobbo> dobegor: You can't. But you could make a protocol for message forwarding. so Computer A sends "FWD C: msg" to B and B sends "msg" to C
L1452[17:41:49] <dangranos> and break earth doing it
L1453[17:41:56] <dangranos> part of it, at least
L1454[17:42:23] <dangranos> Wobbo, what if you need to forward it more than 2 hops away?
L1455[17:42:38] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: We can get water out of our polders, getting water in Australia shouldn't be to hard :P
L1456[17:42:41] <dangranos> FWD 1: FWD ...: FWD N:
L1457[17:42:46] <dangranos> like this?
L1458[17:42:57] <Wobbo> dangranos: That is the diry hack solution
L1459[17:43:01] <dobegor> Wobbo: so the Access Point "hacks" that? (cos it catches the direct messages)
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L1461[17:43:05] <dangranos> STAAAAAAAAB
L1462[17:43:20] * dangranos slightly stabs Wobbo
L1463[17:43:35] <dobegor> Wobbo: cos I though about using Access Point to gather direct messages and then send them via linked card
L1464[17:43:38] <Wobbo> dobegor: Access points are implemented Scala side if I'm not mistaken, so they work differently
L1465[17:44:18] <dobegor> Wobbo: and I can't connect i.e. two Access Points via computer with linked card?
L1466[17:44:23] <Wobbo> dobegor: I haven't played in a while, so my info might be outdated, but the protocol I proposed is for computer-> computer communication
L1467[17:44:38] <dobegor> Wobbo: I understood
L1468[17:45:10] <dobegor> Wobbo: I wish we could do so: computer -> AP -> computer with linked card [1] -> computer with linked card [2] -> AP -> another computer
L1469[17:45:26] <dobegor> but it seems that we can't do AP -> computer
L1470[17:45:34] <dangranos> linked card computers - gateways?
L1471[17:45:39] <dobegor> yea
L1472[17:45:43] <Wobbo> dobegor: If I understand correclty, a access point is just a block that passes along messages, so you don't send messages to the AP
L1473[17:46:07] <Wobbo> dobegor: But can't you just send a message to B from A if there is an access point in between?
L1474[17:46:16] <dobegor> we can't do that cos we can't emulate the switch/AP software-way without modifing the network on user computers
L1475[17:46:17] <dangranos> if you send it and it doing something with them, its a router
L1476[17:46:50] <dobegor> Wobbo: no, I can't, they are thousands block away from each other
L1477[17:46:54] <dangranos> too bad networking in OC is unrealistical #blamesangar
L1478[17:47:20] <Wobbo> dobegor: Then there is also no access point in between
L1479[17:47:22] <dobegor> Sangar: yea plz give us some more possibilities :)
L1480[17:47:24] <dangranos> NAT?
L1481[17:47:50] <dobegor> smth like that
L1482[17:48:11] <dobegor> Wobbo: I though we can use AP to catch the direct messages and forward them software-way
L1483[17:48:13] <dangranos> irl, you need at least minimal software to network things, right?
L1484[17:48:13] <dobegor> but we can't
L1485[17:48:14] <Wobbo> dobegor: In realistic networking btw, A would send messages out to all connected computers which then try to find B if I'm not mistaken.
L1486[17:48:23] <dangranos> hmm
L1487[17:48:36] <dobegor> dangranos: yea, I wanted it to work out of the box on client side
L1488[17:48:51] <Wobbo> dobegor: AP is implemented Scala side, so you can't change its software from in game
L1489[17:49:00] <dobegor> yea I know now
L1490[17:49:03] <dobegor> thanks
L1491[17:49:06] <dangranos> Wobbo, A broadcast packet "For: B; Msg" and B listens to it, something like that?
L1492[17:49:32] <Wobbo> dangranos: As in how real routing works?
L1493[17:49:37] <dangranos> dunno
L1494[17:50:33] <dangranos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4#Header
L1495[17:51:16] <Wobbo> dangranos: Real routing goes something like this I believe: you have a packet with a header, and the header specivies the destination it should go to. This packet is send to all connected machines that listen, and then these machines also propagate the message to all again connected machines
L1496[17:51:58] <Wobbo> dangranos: Modern routing is smarter than this I believe, they store paths and stuff
L1497[17:52:19] <dangranos> path storing is part of software, not protocol, right?
L1498[17:52:39] <dangranos> i am talking about ipv*
L1499[17:52:43] <Wobbo> dangranos: I think so, but not sure. All of this is from memory
L1500[17:53:08] <dangranos> not something fancy as cjdns protocol or any other mesh protocols
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L1502[17:55:14] <Wobbo> dangranos, dobegor: But if you want custom routing, you could build something like this. Machine A broadcasts a message to all machines on a specific port, listening machines repeat this message to all the machines that they are connected to(again using broadcast) If the destination is the current machine or it knows the destination machine, it stops sending. You still need to implement cycle detection and stuff.
L1503[17:55:44] <Wobbo> dangranos, dobegor: Before you implement this though, check the forums/OpenPrograms wether or not something like this already exists
L1504[17:55:56] <dangranos> hmm
L1505[17:56:08] <dangranos> what about calculation path before sending it first?
L1506[17:56:18] <ShadowKatStudios> http://i.imgur.com/cioLbFK.png
L1507[17:56:25] <Vexatos> Okay, that's enough work for now
L1508[17:56:35] <dangranos> but if routing table didnt update... there would be packet loss
L1509[17:57:10] <Vexatos> https://gist.github.com/Vexatos/feb63978fa673b678bf4 q_q
L1510[17:57:14] <Wobbo> dangranos: there are multiple ways that this can be improved. You could try to graph the entire network and use A* to search for example
L1511[17:57:26] <Vexatos> 2 things left to do >_>
L1512[17:57:54] * dangranos pokes Sangar
L1513[17:57:57] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Nice!
L1514[17:58:36] <dangranos> hmm, what if OC will have own VM architecture?
L1515[17:58:54] <dangranos> and all the architectures will be modules?
L1516[17:59:09] * dangranos facetables
L1517[18:04:46] <Wobbo> dangranos: A architecture which runs compiled C code would be nice. We could then create an OpenOS emulator in OC :P
L1518[18:06:00] <dangranos> i was trying to imagine OC as gramework VM
L1519[18:06:03] <dangranos> *framework
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L1521[18:17:47] <Ender> o/
L1522[18:17:56] <ShadowKatStudios> http://i.imgur.com/5Rt1zYV.png I called it EpserNet
L1523[18:18:01] <Wobbo> /o
L1524[18:20:05] <dangranos> bye
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L1526[18:24:36] <Vexatos> YAY
L1527[18:24:37] <Vexatos> http://pastebin.com/DeG6qWKG
L1528[18:25:00] <Wobbo> Vexatos: That song is empty
L1529[18:25:08] <Vexatos> Now the only thing left to do is convert the MuseScore notes into song ones
L1530[18:25:15] <Vexatos> I already ported the note API to javascript
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L1533[18:30:24] <dobegor> how can I get player's name who is touching the computer?
L1534[18:30:31] <dobegor> I meant
L1535[18:30:54] <dobegor> if OS knows who is eligible to control (useradd, userdel)
L1536[18:31:19] <dobegor> there should be a way to know who right' clicked the computer?
L1537[18:32:37] <Caitlyn> yes it's in the touch event
L1538[18:32:40] <Wobbo> dobegor: That should be given to you in the touch event
L1539[18:32:54] <Caitlyn> I wonder...
L1540[18:32:57] <Caitlyn> ~w touch
L1541[18:32:57] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/block:switch
L1542[18:33:01] <Caitlyn> nope lol
L1543[18:33:07] <Caitlyn> ~w event
L1544[18:33:08] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L1545[18:33:35] <Caitlyn> touch(screenAddress: string, x: number, y: number, button: number, playerName: string)
L1546[18:33:39] <Caitlyn> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:signals
L1547[18:34:20] <Caitlyn> touch, drag, drop, scroll, and walk all have playername
L1548[18:34:38] <Caitlyn> so does keyboard signals
L1549[18:34:42] <Caitlyn> s/does/do/
L1550[18:34:42] <Kibibyte> <Caitlyn> so do keyboard signals
L1551[18:34:49] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: Can I get your regexp IRC parser?
L1552[18:35:09] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: What?
L1553[18:35:20] <vifino> It's lisp! D:
L1554[18:35:21] <ShadowKatStudios> You know the thing you made in lisp?
L1555[18:35:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm trying to parse IRC messages
L1556[18:36:22] <vifino> So, what exactly do you want?
L1557[18:36:24] <ping> ShadowKatStudios, > regex > irc
L1558[18:36:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I need something to get the nick and the message from a raw IRC string
L1559[18:37:23] <vifino> Oh, okay.
L1560[18:37:31] <ping> there are different kinds of "irc strings"
L1561[18:37:44] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: ":(.*?)!(.*?)@(.*?) PRIVMSG (.*?) :(.*)"
L1562[18:38:08] <ShadowKatStudios> :Izaya!Izaya@127.0.0.1 PRIVMSG #SKSDev :For example, ping
L1563[18:38:17] <vifino> Parses messages, capture group names: nick,user,host,chan,msg
L1564[18:38:29] <ping> technically not correct RFC but okey
L1565[18:38:49] <vifino> That would be Izaya,Izaya,127.0.0.1,#SKSDev,For example
L1566[18:38:57] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Simple as that, have fun.
L1567[18:39:04] <ping> wait
L1568[18:39:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Thanks, vifino.
L1569[18:39:14] <ShadowKatStudios> This should help greatly.
L1570[18:39:14] <ping> is that regex or lua patterns
L1571[18:39:36] <vifino> ping: Regex.
L1572[18:39:39] <ping> ah
L1573[18:40:06] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios, beware with what vifino posted and messages from the server, they come as :lain.shadowkat.tk (i.e. not ! or @)
L1574[18:40:07] <ShadowKatStudios> *example code intensifies*
L1575[18:40:10] <vifino> But lua pattern would be like ":(.-)!(.-)@(.-) PRIVMSG (.-) :(.+)" or something
L1576[18:40:30] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ShadowKatStudios: what language are you using?
L1577[18:40:39] <ShadowKatStudios> SuPeRMiNoR2: Python.
L1578[18:40:46] <SuPeRMiNoR2> cool :D
L1579[18:41:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> SuperBot has possibly the ugliest message processing
L1580[18:41:14] <vifino> Ender: Where did you get ! or @ from?!
L1581[18:41:22] <Ender> vifino, user host mask
L1582[18:41:32] <Ender> i.e. NICK!IDENT!HOST
L1583[18:41:40] <vifino> .
L1584[18:41:43] <vifino> That's wrong.
L1585[18:41:46] <Ender> ?
L1586[18:41:55] <Ender> er, replace 2nd ! with @
L1587[18:42:02] <vifino> It is always nick!user@host
L1588[18:42:10] <Ender> vifino, not for server messages
L1589[18:42:13] <vifino> Ender: Then why the fuck is my example wrong?
L1590[18:42:26] <vifino> Ender: :I its PRIVMSG, not server messages
L1591[18:42:33] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i just tested the regex, it works :O
L1592[18:42:43] <Caitlyn> Servers can privmsg :P
L1593[18:42:46] <Ender> vifino, didnt say it was wrong, i just said it would error if a server messaged it
L1594[18:42:50] <Ender> what Caitlyn said
L1595[18:42:58] <Caitlyn> Our servers privmsg like crazy
L1596[18:43:03] <vifino> Ender: Nope, it wouldn't.
L1597[18:43:08] <Caitlyn> [12:26:43] <hathor.pc-logix.com> QUIT: Client exiting: mibbot_stats!mibbot_stat@bot.search.mibbit.com (2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe96:c1fa) [Connection closed]
L1598[18:43:29] <vifino> :server.com nick!user@host PRIVMSG #oc :msg
L1599[18:43:30] <Ender> vifino, both me and Caitlyn can go get examples of server's messageing
L1600[18:43:36] <vifino> ^ that would still work
L1601[18:43:55] <vifino> Either it would give false, or go through
L1602[18:44:02] <Ender> vifino, but server to client messages dont have nick!user@host
L1603[18:44:04] <Caitlyn> hecate.pc-logix.com PRIVMSG #NetAlerts :CONNECT: Client connecting on port 6667 (class main): Katie!Caitlyn@michiyo.pc-logix.com (2001:470:1f11:def:dead:beef:1bad:babe) [realname]
L1604[18:44:24] <vifino> Ender: It wouldn't error, it just wouldn't match ¬_¬
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L1606[18:44:37] <vifino> stahp hatin on mah regex bruh
L1607[18:44:58] <gamax92> regex?
L1608[18:45:01] * gamax92 sees a lua pattern
L1609[18:45:07] <SuPeRMiNoR2> its not lua
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L1611[18:45:18] <vifino> gamax92: First one is a regex, second one is lua pattern i just made up
L1612[18:45:25] <gamax92> oh okay
L1613[18:45:30] * gamax92 crawls back into cave
L1614[18:45:35] * vifino hugs gamax92
L1615[18:45:49] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Ender: i just tryed the regex with Caitlyn's example server msg, it does not match
L1616[18:45:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> tried*
L1617[18:46:11] <Caitlyn> That's what we were pointing out :P
L1618[18:46:19] <vifino> >:|
L1619[18:46:23] <SuPeRMiNoR2> that would not be a problem
L1620[18:46:32] <vifino> Ender made it sound like it would 'error out'
L1621[18:46:35] <vifino> And not work.
L1622[18:46:53] <vifino> But it's just not matching these types of messages :I
L1623[18:47:06] <Ender> all i said was just beware
L1624[18:47:14] <Kasen> parsing a protocol with regex?
L1625[18:47:19] <Kasen> that sounds... brave
L1626[18:47:37] <vifino> Regex is easy, even in lisp.
L1627[18:47:53] <Kasen> ...so?
L1628[18:48:04] <vifino> Yes, we are parsing irc messages in regex.
L1629[18:48:19] <SuPeRMiNoR2> it seems to work good to me
L1630[18:48:26] <vifino> Or more like, I got asked to give ShadowKatStudios my message regex.
L1631[18:48:29] <SuPeRMiNoR2> compared to the ugly function i use
L1632[18:48:35] <vifino> SuPeRMiNoR2: Glad I helped you too :)
L1633[18:49:32] <vifino> Only thing I am scared of in regex are reversed lookaheads.
L1634[18:50:23] <Wobbo> vifino: What library did you use for regex in Lisp?
L1635[18:51:59] <vifino> Wobbo: I used Racket's inbuild regexp.
L1636[18:52:22] <Wobbo> Ah, racket. Never used that one
L1637[18:52:42] <vifino> Wobbo: PLT Scheme maybe?
L1638[18:52:56] <Wobbo> Common Lisp is the only one I've used
L1639[18:53:06] <vifino> Because after PLT Scheme 5.0, it got rebranded to Racket.
L1640[18:53:24] <vifino> Wobbo: There are (basically) two types of lisp: Common Lisp and Scheme.
L1641[18:53:55] <Wobbo> I thought that Racket used Common Lisps macro system though, so its not that black and white
L1642[18:54:14] <vifino> Comon lisp has basically all the things, while scheme is tiny and uses modules to expand its functionality.
L1643[18:55:30] <vifino> Okay, need another language to learn.
L1644[18:55:44] <vifino> Learned racket in two days to a usable level. #epicwin.
L1645[18:56:04] <Wobbo> Lisps are really easy to learn to a useable level imo
L1646[18:56:47] <vifino> Wobbo: My definition of 'usable level' is to make an irc bot with it.
L1647[18:57:02] <vifino> So I did that.
L1648[18:57:03] <Wobbo> Thats really specific :P
L1649[18:57:17] <Wobbo> Try learning Prolog to a "useable level" :P
L1650[18:57:49] <vifino> Wobbo: But look at it this way: Loops, sockets, string matching, ..
L1651[18:58:00] <vifino> And all the way up to that.
L1652[18:58:10] <vifino> So really, that means you can do things with it.
L1653[18:58:45] <Wobbo> Yeah, then you can do shit with it
L1654[18:58:57] <Wobbo> Try doing that with Prolog, I dare you :P
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L1656[18:59:13] <vifino> :x
L1657[18:59:31] <vifino> I thought about forth but then >FORTH >sockets
L1658[18:59:53] <Wobbo> Prolog itself is actually not that hard. I just don't know how sockets would work in Prolog. But then again, it does have read
L1659[19:00:04] <vifino> So I wrote my own implementation of forth, that means I know how it works, too, right? ;)
L1660[19:01:38] <Wobbo> Not necessarily.
L1661[19:02:03] <vifino> ._.
L1662[19:02:28] <Wobbo> I could implement a brainfuck interpreter, but that doens't mean that I can write brainfuck
L1663[19:03:09] <vifino> But you know what it does, and if you can combine things you learned to solve a problem -> Win.
L1664[19:03:46] <Wobbo> But it doesn't mean you can use the language, only that you can implement it ;)
L1665[19:03:52] <vifino> :x I forgot how many languages I can use.
L1666[19:04:06] <vifino> So many, i lost the count.
L1667[19:04:39] <vifino> So, either I learn haskell or rust, or find another language to learn, that is semi-interesting.
L1668[19:04:47] <Inari> rust ftw :p
L1669[19:04:54] * vifino slaps Inari
L1670[19:04:54] * EnderBot2 laughs
L1671[19:05:53] <g> Why does every rust/haskell programmer have to go around telling people how much they like it
L1672[19:05:53] <g> ._.
L1673[19:06:12] <g> they're really not that suitable for people that haven't wrapped their minds around functional programming
L1674[19:06:21] <Wobbo> g: I never told you hom much I like Haskell! :P
L1675[19:06:23] <Inari> cause vifino said "haskell or rust"
L1676[19:06:38] <g> it's more a general thing I see on the internet
L1677[19:06:40] <Inari> g: you can do some oop-ish stuff and just simple C style
L1678[19:06:41] <Inari> so...
L1679[19:06:51] <Wobbo> vifino: If you want something refreshing, try Prolog. Not even kidding this time
L1680[19:07:21] <Wobbo> vifino: It is unlike anything you've used so far I bet
L1681[19:07:23] <CompanionCube> Prolog was..interesting
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L1685[19:08:47] <vifino> Wobbo: Prolog seems very boring.
L1686[19:08:59] <Wobbo> Why boring?
L1687[19:09:17] <Inari> vifino: instead of learning new languages, work on a project with ones you know?
L1688[19:09:31] <vifino> Inari: If you give me something to do, I will.
L1689[19:09:42] <Inari> one big point of learning rust is because i dont have a langauge for native coding yet
L1690[19:09:42] <g> know python and java?
L1691[19:09:43] <g> :P
L1692[19:10:08] <vifino> Worked on |0xDEADBEEF| for a while, if I have things to add I will do it, but it's nothing I can just code for.
L1693[19:10:22] <vifino> g: 1) yes 2) ewwwwww but yes
L1694[19:10:28] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Go find a project on Github?
L1695[19:10:35] <g> should totally write a python arch for OC
L1696[19:10:36] <g> :P
L1697[19:10:43] <gamax92> gdude: doit
L1698[19:10:51] <g> I don't have the expertise
L1699[19:10:52] <g> ._.
L1700[19:11:15] <Wobbo> vifino: Why does prolog seem boring?
L1701[19:11:38] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Ohai!
L1702[19:11:51] <Inari> g: well a new language needs promotion to get more and morep eople, so maybe they just want to spread the word on that they find it a good language :p i often see people state thier likes, why should people not state their likes of programming lnaguages?
L1703[19:11:53] <vifino> Wobbo:I dunno, it just seems boring ;_;
L1704[19:12:13] <g> Inari: there's nothing wrong with doing that, I just object to seeing it happen /all the time/
L1705[19:12:27] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Ruby people are worse xD
L1706[19:12:28] <Inari> well thats subjective though xD
L1707[19:12:37] <Inari> go learn OTP
L1708[19:12:39] <g> I dunno, I don't know that many ruby people
L1709[19:12:40] <g> lol
L1710[19:12:45] <vifino> Ruby is awesome though, DeanIsaKitty!
L1711[19:12:46] <g> it's a really weird language imo
L1712[19:12:47] <Inari> or Outlaw Techno Psychobitch
L1713[19:12:53] <Wobbo> vifino: Did you try using it yet?
L1714[19:12:59] <Caitlyn> I know a bit of ruby from my time with RPGMaker... lol
L1715[19:13:06] <g> ah, so that was ruby
L1716[19:13:07] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: I don't like it. ;)
L1717[19:13:09] <g> I was too young to knwo
L1718[19:13:09] <g> lol
L1719[19:13:11] <Wobbo> vifino: I think that what you said was DeanIsaKitty's point :P
L1720[19:13:11] <vifino> Wobbo: @_@ stahp with dis shet
L1721[19:13:11] <g> know*
L1722[19:13:13] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRbY3TMUcgQ&feature=youtu.be still ftw
L1723[19:13:14] -Kibibyte- [Inari] Erlang The Movie II: The Sequel | by gar1t | 9m55s | 95w4d ago | 34,549 views | Rated: 4.92/5.00
L1724[19:13:47] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqvCNb7fKsg
L1725[19:13:47] -Kibibyte- [g] Programming - Why Haskell is Great - 10 minutes | by Nqzr1DoIFnVr7G9O_Wv9pw | 10m4s | 74w1d ago | 71,903 views | Rated: 4.90/5.00
L1726[19:13:51] <g> this is the most I've seen on haskell
L1727[19:13:51] <g> :P
L1728[19:14:03] <vifino> Inari: Erlang? Really?
L1729[19:14:10] <Inari> vifino: just watch it :P
L1730[19:15:22] <Wobbo> vifino: I'm trying to get you to learn an entirely new paradigm.
L1731[19:15:40] <vifino> Wobbo: ;_; its not really interesting or appealing to me
L1732[19:15:58] <g> vifino, how about clojure
L1733[19:16:04] <g> (seriously, don't learn clojure)
L1734[19:16:08] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino, just a tip: Dial back your ego a bit. A lot of people in here know faaar more then you about programming, just take their advice :)
L1735[19:16:11] <gamax92> gdude: DOIYTREDS
L1736[19:16:19] <g> gamax92, wut
L1737[19:16:29] <gamax92> UH7UCJ3m9o3q0 8ui)(pm3kc,pf oFK01PC,APNZjllb*cbn IK3
L1738[19:16:38] <g> gamax92, stop sitting on cattle prods
L1739[19:16:51] <gamax92> ZAV
L1740[19:16:53] <vifino> g: I will look at that in a sec.
L1741[19:16:59] <g> it's a lisp that runs on java
L1742[19:17:01] <g> it's actually okay
L1743[19:17:09] <g> but I had to learn it in a few days so I didn't really like it
L1744[19:17:20] <g> (it was for a job)
L1745[19:17:21] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: ¬_¬ It's nothing about ego, I just don't want Prolog .-.
L1746[19:17:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Why?
L1747[19:18:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Its about this part: <Wobbo> vifino: I'm trying to get you to learn an entirely new paradigm.
L1748[19:18:33] <DeanIsaKitty> There are languages so different from what you know that they can change your view on programming. And they are powerful as hell.
L1749[19:18:48] <g> isn't prolog really old?
L1750[19:18:53] <g> I don't remember
L1751[19:18:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Lisp is old ;D
L1752[19:19:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Inari: I have no idea what I'm watching but I like it.
L1753[19:19:08] <Inari> xD
L1754[19:19:08] <g> 1972, yeah
L1755[19:19:20] <ShadowKatStudios> "OTP" is an unusual name
L1756[19:19:23] <Wobbo> g: Its still about the only real player in its field IIRC
L1757[19:19:33] <g> Wobbo, it's designed for AI though, so that's not surprising
L1758[19:20:23] * g shrugs and hugs his python
L1759[19:20:45] <Magik6k> guys help
L1760[19:20:53] <Magik6k> how do I guit vim with saving?
L1761[19:20:58] <Magik6k> *quit
L1762[19:21:04] <g> esc-:wq
L1763[19:21:06] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: ¬_¬ I can learn esolangs all day, but then they are just esolangs, not really useful for anything I am doing. Prolog is the same, I have no reason to learn it, and If I find a better language to learn, I will do that instead.
L1764[19:21:23] <vifino> Magik6k: Hit escape, :wq
L1765[19:21:32] <DeanIsaKitty> And thats what I mean with ego ;D
L1766[19:21:42] <g> He does have a point
L1767[19:21:47] <g> not many people actually use prolog
L1768[19:21:54] <Wobbo> g: Yeah, it is mostly used for AI, but AI is almost everywhere nowadays
L1769[19:22:05] <vifino> That has nothing to do with ego, DeanIsaKitty.
L1770[19:22:16] <g> it makes sense to want to learn something that's useful for jobs, etc
L1771[19:22:24] <g> Wobbo: I suppose so
L1772[19:22:38] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Its not about that. Its about the fact that prolog is quite different from a lot of the main stream languages :)
L1773[19:22:39] <Magik6k> Anyone sitting at mpt ide atm(I need to restart it)?
L1774[19:22:51] <g> DeanIsaKitty: yeah, but the thing is, like
L1775[19:22:57] <g> it's quite different from a lot of main language
L1776[19:22:59] <g> +s
L1777[19:23:06] <g> so, how does that help one going into a project/job?
L1778[19:23:21] <g> assuming that it doesn't involve prolog
L1779[19:23:34] <Wobbo> g: Did you know that if you want to earn a lot of money with programming that you should learn COBOL?
L1780[19:24:07] <g> 000100 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
L1781[19:24:12] <g> 000200 PROGRAM-ID. HELLOWORLD.
L1782[19:24:12] <g> plis no.
L1783[19:24:15] <g> nope.
L1784[19:24:15] <g> no
L1785[19:24:29] <Wobbo> But do you know why you should learn COBOL to earn $?
L1786[19:24:39] <g> so that you know what programming paradigms to avoid?
L1787[19:24:54] <Wobbo> Becasue there are so little people that know COBOL
L1788[19:25:09] <g> okay.. so?
L1789[19:25:24] <Wobbo> So sometimes, knowing a language that isn't "mainstream" helps you with getting a job
L1790[19:25:43] <g> I can't imagine any companies still using COBOL though
L1791[19:25:54] <Wobbo> Yeah… Dream on
L1792[19:25:57] <g> aside from IBM perhaps
L1793[19:26:04] <g> but they made an XML format to represent JSON as XML
L1794[19:26:07] <g> so I don't take them very seriously
L1795[19:26:34] <Wobbo> A LOT of legacy software is written in COBOL. And a lot of banks run legacy sotware
L1796[19:26:53] <Wobbo> A large part of the financial world… runs on COBOL
L1797[19:27:02] <g> I worked with western union at one point
L1798[19:27:09] <g> most of their stuff is definitely not cobol, lol
L1799[19:27:31] <g> they were using things like clojure and node.js
L1800[19:27:44] <Wobbo> g: proof http://simplicity.laserfiche.com/content/looking-job-hows-your-cobol
L1801[19:27:48] <g> a good bit of C++ as well
L1802[19:28:12] <Wobbo> That article is from august 2014
L1803[19:28:34] <g> that is.. kind of surprising
L1804[19:28:45] <g> but I'd be more inclined to say that they should rewrite in another language than continue to maintain
L1805[19:28:54] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Take a look at here: http://blog.fogus.me/2011/08/14/perlis-languages/
L1806[19:29:23] <Wobbo> g: That is not always as easy as it sounds. This is busniss critical software that you don't simply replace
L1807[19:29:33] <g> iunno, that was my job
L1808[19:29:33] <Wobbo> g: I do agree with you however, its just not so simple
L1809[19:29:34] <g> ._.
L1810[19:29:54] <g> I had to rewrite some western union legacy backend stuff in node.js
L1811[19:29:59] <g> without the actual source
L1812[19:30:00] <DeanIsaKitty> g: May I ask a question: Do you work in professional development?
L1813[19:30:10] <g> I was working for fexco, I'm not with them now though
L1814[19:30:29] <g> I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that, though
L1815[19:30:40] <g> if you mean in a big office with lots of pointless meetings, sure
L1816[19:31:50] <DeanIsaKitty> It was more about the general Idea. This channel is not usually filled with the best programmers in the word. ;)
L1817[19:31:57] <Wobbo> DeanIsaKitty: Saving that link for later, thanks!
L1818[19:32:03] <g> ah, yeah, I don't claim to be like a coding prodigy
L1819[19:32:10] <g> and I really hated that job
L1820[19:32:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Wobbo: You're welcome ;)
L1821[19:32:29] <Wobbo> DeanIsaKitty: Most code factories are not usually filled with the best programmers in the world :P
L1822[19:32:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Wobbo: Yep.
L1823[19:33:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Its very different from place to place.
L1824[19:34:49] <DeanIsaKitty> g: About the big office with meetings. Its very different depending for whom you work. Small companies generally have a totally different workflow than bigger ones do. They both have their ups and down though ;)
L1825[19:35:17] <g> the meetings totally killed my efficiency
L1826[19:35:31] <g> if I'm coding I have to listen to music through headphones to not get distracted
L1827[19:35:37] <g> which they were fine with
L1828[19:35:38] <g> but
L1829[19:35:45] <g> you go into a meeting for an hour or two hours
L1830[19:35:46] <g> and then come out
L1831[19:35:50] <g> and I have no idea what I was doing
L1832[19:44:56] <Wobbo> Well, I guess I should make dinner
L1833[19:44:58] <Wobbo> .time
L1834[19:44:58] <EnderBot2> Current OC time: Tue Jan 20 19:44:58 2015
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L1836[19:45:19] <Wobbo> Yeah, its almost 9'o clock here. Dinnerimte
L1837[19:45:23] <SKS> Hi from telnet
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L1839[19:45:38] <Wobbo|Food> SKS: You're always doing something new, aren't you? ;P
L1840[19:45:43] <g> SKS:
L1841[19:45:47] <SKS> So EsperNet requires you to ping before connecting
L1842[19:45:56] <g> yeah, a lot of networks do afaik
L1843[19:46:08] <CompanionCube> IRC telnet is neat.
L1844[19:46:13] <SKS> G:Good
L1845[19:46:21] <SKS> Ffs
L1846[19:46:30] <CompanionCube> SKS, you should totally do SMTP over telnet as the next step
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L1848[19:49:58] <Inari> wat
L1849[19:50:02] <Inari> i never pinged before connecting
L1850[19:50:13] <Pwootage> afternoon
L1851[19:50:29] <Inari> betweennoon :3
L1852[19:50:39] <gamax92> $p
L1853[19:50:40] <^vDoge> Ping reply from gamax92 0.6 s
L1854[19:50:42] <gamax92> %p
L1855[19:50:43] <MichiBot> Ping reply from gamax92 0.57s
L1856[19:54:38] <gamax92> %p
L1857[19:54:39] <MichiBot> Ping reply from gamax92 0.97s
L1858[19:57:07] <ping> .p
L1859[19:57:08] <^v> Ping reply from ping 0.97s
L1860[19:57:25] <gamax92> wow we have the same ping
L1861[19:57:33] <gamax92> wanna be best friends?
L1862[19:58:08] <SKS> wut, what is wrong with while strPONG :insanity.esper.net
L1863[19:58:20] <ShadowKatStudios> ffs
L1864[19:58:43] <Ender> ?
L1865[19:58:52] <gamax92> wat
L1866[19:59:19] <SKS> I was trying to reply to a ping
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L1871[20:12:37] <Pwootage> guh, this class has been useless so far today
L1872[20:12:53] <Pwootage> literally just my professor ranting about the real world
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L1874[20:16:29] <Vexatos> http://www.twitch.tv/asiekierka If anyone cares about entire computers made using RedLogic
L1875[20:17:08] <Negi> I do.
L1876[20:17:17] <Pwootage> is that THE asie?
L1877[20:17:24] <Negi> It is Pwootage.
L1878[20:17:29] <Pwootage> :O Kreygasm
L1879[20:18:05] <Pwootage> Csstform: you around?
L1880[20:20:39] <Pwootage> so, uh, I'm going to be ignoring some of the stuff my professor says because he's doing it in a less clear and more difficult way
L1881[20:20:42] <Pwootage> fun
L1882[20:21:32] <Negi> I totally don't lag, nup.
L1883[20:21:48] <Negi> And I'm totally not supposed to prepare for the exams that are LITTERAL TOMORROW.
L1884[20:24:56] <Kodos> Oooh Weird Al is coming to town this summer
L1885[20:34:27] <dobegor> guys
L1886[20:34:50] <dobegor> what's the best way to throw a certain amount of items to player within a computer?
L1887[20:35:08] <dobegor> a certain amount of certain item
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L1889[20:41:28] <asie> http://redlogicfun.asie.pl/
L1890[20:42:07] <Pwootage> I hate how he is doing this
L1891[20:42:17] <Pwootage> >.>
L1892[20:42:31] <Pwootage> this is not how I will write the compiler I'm going to write after this class
L1893[20:43:08] <Pwootage> asie: so what all is in this pack?
L1894[20:43:52] <Negi> asie: Why'd you make a custom launcher ?
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L1896[20:46:02] <Dashkal> asie: ?
L1897[20:48:22] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Hue, ping can send nice gifs: http://i.imgur.com/K36KDMV.gif
L1898[20:48:37] <ShadowKatStudios> heheh
L1899[20:48:59] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: Check out my channel on lain, something new has occured
L1900[20:49:17] <samis> ShadowKatStudios, you has a channel?
L1901[20:49:21] <Vexatos> Pwootage, OC, RedLogic, Railcraft
L1902[20:49:26] <Vexatos> and a couple of other mods
L1903[20:49:45] <vifino> I'm laughing way too hard, the cuteness coupled with adorabliness coupled with gta is too much to handle ;_;
L1904[20:49:49] <Pwootage> hm, railcraft might be fun to mess with sometime
L1905[20:50:01] <ShadowKatStudios> samis: #SKSDev, there's one here, and there's one on http://shadowkat.tk/irc/
L1906[20:50:21] <samis> ah that channel
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L1908[20:50:29] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Time to add that to my znc then :x
L1909[20:50:36] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L1910[20:50:54] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Which node of Ender's net is closest to France or germany?
L1911[20:51:24] <Dashkal> Ahh, it's a modpack. Nevermind...
L1912[20:51:26] <ShadowKatStudios> anquietas.theender.net probably
L1913[20:51:36] <wolfmitchell> Guys I made a thing
L1914[20:51:36] <wolfmitchell> http://youtu.be/S3J85PVrV-w
L1915[20:51:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Maybe the other one, but I dunno.
L1916[20:52:55] <asie> Negi: why not?
L1917[20:52:56] <asie> i use it every time
L1918[20:53:02] <asie> and Technic I personally dislike functionality and design-wise
L1919[20:53:10] <asie> Pwootage: it's a pack + server
L1920[20:53:44] <Pwootage> all I want is a .zip with the mods and the server ip :P
L1921[20:53:53] <Pwootage> I like to use the vanilla launcher
L1922[20:55:43] <ShadowKatStudios> >like
L1923[20:55:46] <ShadowKatStudios> >vanilla launcher
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L1925[20:56:36] <wolfmitchell> ikr ShadowKatStudios
L1926[20:56:43] <wolfmitchell> ShadowKatStudios, did you see the video i posted? lel
L1927[20:56:44] <Cinder> ...
L1928[20:56:49] <Cinder> well crap.
L1929[20:56:49] <Ender> vifino, yeah, what ShadowKatStudios said
L1930[20:56:58] <Cinder> I've been playing Ocarina of Time for the past 12 hours
L1931[20:57:08] <Cinder> I was close to beating the water temple and BAM, system crash.
L1932[20:57:15] <Cinder> I never saved that file.
L1933[20:57:33] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: MMC ftw.
L1934[20:57:35] <Ender> there is darcath.theender.net but that's my pi on consumer grade internet
L1935[20:58:03] <samis> Ender, consumer grade internet isn't nesscarily a bad thing
L1936[20:58:08] <samis> if your ISP is decent
L1937[20:58:23] <Ender> samis, it's sky and over the weekend it was being shite
L1938[20:59:01] <samis> Ender, Sky is *always* shite
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L1940[21:00:24] <asie> Sangar: https://mediacru.sh/L-4U2CXsi6D3, ask Thog for more details
L1941[21:00:55] <Pwootage> Cinder: learn 2 save (also 12 hours is long for OOT :P)
L1942[21:02:27] <Negi> My ISP is called Free and it's not actually free...
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L1944[21:04:15] <vifino> Ender: whats the networks name again? :/
L1945[21:04:22] <Ender> Darknet
L1946[21:10:24] <samis> I have Sky, but I'd rather switch to someone like A&A/AAISP
L1947[21:11:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: False advertising!
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L1953[21:21:01] <Altenius> I've confirmed that my school blocks https. encrypted.google.com gives a "Connection reset" error.
L1954[21:22:58] <Kodos> Okay, time to put my networking stuff to the test. I'm going to write a tablet program that will remotely control things in my base like doors, lights, etc
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L1958[21:39:24] <Sangar> asie, Thog, what is that?
L1959[21:39:35] <Thog> hmm?
L1960[21:39:45] <Sangar> <+asie> Sangar: https://mediacru.sh/L-4U2CXsi6D3, ask Thog for more details
L1961[21:40:05] <Thog> oh
L1962[21:41:28] <Thog> It throw this exceptionwhen you try to add component on a server...
L1963[21:43:01] <Wobbo|Food> Sangar: It looks like an off by one error for the index :P
L1964[21:43:35] <Sangar> it does. Thog, like when adding a card to a cases?
L1965[21:43:41] <Sangar> -s
L1966[21:44:36] <Thog> Sangar: That only append on the server item
L1967[21:44:54] <Sangar> ah, ok. will try to reproduce, thanks.
L1968[21:45:01] <Sangar> latest oc i presume?
L1969[21:45:50] <Thog> OC 1.4.5.358
L1970[21:45:58] <Sangar> ok
L1971[21:46:34] <Wobbo|Food> Sangar: Actually, wouldn't that be an off by 2 error? The first index is normally 0, so the 45 item would have index 44, right?
L1972[21:46:50] <Sangar> idk, we'll see :P
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L1975[21:59:43] <Cinder> Pwootage: Blame the goddamn water temple.
L1976[22:01:03] <Pwootage> Cinder: it's not bad, just go left
L1977[22:01:08] <Pwootage> or just skip through the boss door and be done with it
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L1979[22:01:33] <Cinder> I was doing a no-glitch no cheat run
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L1981[22:01:47] <Pwootage> Still
L1982[22:02:11] <Cinder> and honestly I got stuck so long because the Triforce thingy you're supposed to play at didn't trigger the five times I tried.
L1983[22:02:24] <Cinder> and then I Z-targeted it and tried and it worked :|
L1984[22:02:28] <Pwootage> last time I did a glitchless race something came up right as I got to the water temple (like 3 hours in or something)
L1985[22:02:46] <Kodos> If memory serves, you're -supposed- to Z-Target it
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L1988[22:03:30] <Pwootage> I need to do another glitchless runthrough of OOT, see how long it takes me
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L2002[22:09:00] <Wobbo|Dishes> bbl
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L2010[22:28:59] <Sangar> Thog, which server tier and what item did this happen with? i can't reproduce it :/
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L2013[22:29:31] <Thog> Sangar ask to asie
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L2017[22:44:13] <Wobbo> back
L2018[22:46:44] <asie> Sangar: http://redlogicfun.asie.pl
L2019[22:46:46] <asie> also
L2020[22:46:48] <asie> https://twitter.com/asiekierka/status/557669859191193602/photo/1
L2021[22:46:50] <asie> what do i win
L2022[22:47:08] <Sangar> many internets!
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L2024[22:48:40] <Wobbo> many + 2 internets?
L2025[22:49:20] <Pwootage> asie: so much decode
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L2028[23:03:49] <Kodos> I miss doing exploration scanning in EVE =(
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L2038[23:24:54] <Wobbo> I'm going
L2039[23:24:58] <Wobbo> bye!
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L2043[23:41:23] <PotatoTrumpet> Gooooooooooooood afternoon
L2044[23:43:04] <PotatoTrumpet> omgthemehospitalisfree
L2045[23:43:11] * PotatoTrumpet boots up origin
L2046[23:46:12] <PotatoTrumpet> So
L2047[23:46:29] <PotatoTrumpet> I now have a 8 year old empty 232GB HDD
L2048[23:46:39] <PotatoTrumpet> Should I install linux on it
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