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L1[00:01:39] <Pwootage> gamax92: I would
extend a class, probably
L2[00:01:42] <Pwootage> what do you need it
for?
L3[00:01:49] <gamax92> 16KB eeprom
L4[00:02:07] <Pwootage> Do it the same way
memory and HDDs work?
L5[00:02:13] <gamax92> ?_?
L6[00:10:08] <Pwootage> for the record
L7[00:10:25] <Pwootage> OP got a working
bootloader in 4k or whatever
L8[00:10:38] <Pwootage> and GRUB's loader is
412 bytes
L9[00:10:43] <Pwootage> (or
thereabouts)
L10[00:10:50] <gamax92> Pwootage: T_T
L11[00:11:52] <gamax92> except that all of
my code is at 0xC000 and the last 8 bytes of the file are
important
L12[00:12:52] <Pwootage> why?
L13[00:13:48] <gamax92> might not be 8
bytes actually ... but the very top of the memory space is a bunch
of addresses, like where to go to on nmi,irq,brk,reset
L14[00:14:14] <gamax92> and i didn't
compile the boot rom that it currently uses.
L15[00:14:21] <Pwootage> OP: sorry to bug
you, but how long do you think it's going to take you to get ARM
working? It may affect my class in the near future so that's the
only reason I ask
L16[00:14:43] <Pwootage> gamax92: well
adding a 16k eeprom is probably an ok solution for this case
L17[00:15:10] <Pwootage> that or write a
loader that loads your boot rom from somewhere else
L18[00:23:49] ***
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L19[00:23:52] <lperkins2> Define
working.
L20[00:24:00] <lperkins2> He's got it so
that he can compile code and display it.
L21[00:24:16] <lperkins2> I don't know if
he has input/output working yet.
L22[00:25:52] <bananagram> is there anythng
I need to put between a rednet cable and a computer so it can use
them?
L23[00:26:59] <gamax92> Pwootage: well if
this works, i have a 25byte rom :3
L24[00:27:12] <gamax92> there are probably
some stupid irq's or something to get in the way.
L25[00:27:26] <Pwootage> all I need is
access to components :P
L26[00:27:40] <Pwootage> (well, and working
compile -> execute inside OC)
L27[00:27:45] <gamax92> Pwootage: you
aren't writing an os on this 6502 ;)
L28[00:27:55] <Pwootage> gamax92: because I
want to write C++
L29[00:28:00] <Pwootage> (or at least
C)
L30[00:28:01] <gamax92> exactly
L31[00:28:06] <gamax92> well ... there is
cc65
L32[00:28:15] <lperkins2> In theory, if you
write in C89, or similar, you'd be able to compile for all three
real systems.
L33[00:28:15] <gamax92> i couldn't get it
to work though.
L34[00:28:29] <Pwootage> bananagram:
computronics adds rednet integration I believe
L35[00:28:31] <lperkins2> How did it
fail?
L36[00:28:35] <gamax92> #lua 16384 -
65
L37[00:28:35] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
16319
L38[00:28:41] <gamax92> lperkins2: was that
to me?
L39[00:28:45] <gamax92> #lua 16384 -
25
L40[00:28:45] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
16359
L41[00:28:58] <lperkins2> Did you get the
cc65 compiler itself compiled?
L42[00:29:15] <gamax92> oh the cc65
compiler itself worked, just no binary i made in it ran.
L43[00:29:31] <bananagram> Pwootage, tier 2
redstone cards are compatible with rednet
L44[00:29:41] <lperkins2> Hm, did you try
it in a stand alone emulator?
L45[00:29:46] <Pwootage> I'm writing a
compiler but I would *prefer* to have a working shell by next
tuesday :P
L46[00:29:47] <bananagram> brb
L47[00:29:56] <gamax92> lperkins2:
couldn't, it was to test my Signals Device for oc
L48[00:30:04] <Pwootage> bananagram: I
don't think so, not without a second computer
L49[00:30:08] <lperkins2> Ah, might see if
"Hello world" compiles :)
L50[00:30:21] <gamax92> .-. yeaaaah
...
L51[00:30:27] <gamax92> or i can stick to
my hex editor
L52[00:31:18] <Pwootage> I mean if ARM
isn't ready yet and x86 lets me call arbitrary components and
process signals it will work fine for now, I can port it to ARM
later
L53[00:31:23] <Pwootage> and have a
cross-platform OS
L54[00:31:44] <gamax92> ahh right its only
6 bytes at the top of memory
L55[00:31:51] <gamax92> irq and brk share
one.
L56[00:32:01] <OP> Pwootage: well, there is
no compile and execute inside OC
L57[00:32:17] <OP> no compile
L58[00:32:23] <OP> yes we still have
execute
L59[00:32:49] <OP> anyways, got to brb for
a few more minutes
L60[00:32:51] <Pwootage> I mean
cross-compile to OC
L61[00:33:00] <Pwootage> I don't intend to
compile from within OC
L62[00:33:16] <OP> oh, cross compilation is
easy
L63[00:33:29] <Pwootage> so if I can
cross-copile C++ and run it in OC, that's good enough :D
L64[00:33:29] <OP> you just need devKitARM,
it comes with a full ARM compiler
L65[00:33:44] <Pwootage> I could also
probably use llvm or my own cross-compiler, but devKitArm might be
easier
L67[00:34:54] <gamax92> gunna test mah boot
rom
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L69[00:37:12] <Pwootage> time to head
home
L70[00:37:26] <Pwootage> back later
(hopefully in time to bribe OP into sending me his ARM thing
<3)
L71[00:38:48] <gamax92> D: my banked
switched memory == crashed.
L72[00:38:56] <iceman11a> Has the option of
relating OS to AE2 ever been added into OC for the ability of
crafting using LUA.
L73[00:39:17] <g> you can use AE2 via the
adapter with opencomponents afaik
L74[00:39:54] <iceman11a> ok, cool. What do
I attach the adapter too. so that it can read from it.
L75[00:43:29] <iceman11a> Oh and are there
any LUA scripts all ready pre made.
L76[00:44:12] <OP> s/LUA/Lua
L77[00:44:12] <Kibibyte> <iceman11a>
Oh and are there any Lua scripts all ready pre made.
L79[00:44:30] <iceman11a> pls what
L80[00:44:31] <OP> We totally need a Lua is
not an acronym
L82[00:44:46] <iceman11a> ?
L83[00:44:56] *
bananagram uses a MAC computer
L85[00:45:45] *
bananagram dual-boots Windows and Lunix on it
L86[00:46:12] ⇦
Parts: OP (ds84182@Bash.Is.Better.Than.zsh.PanicBNC.ca) (I
quit))
L87[00:46:22] <gamax92> ...
L88[00:46:27] <bananagram> hehe
L89[00:46:31] <gamax92> bananagram look
what you did to OP
L90[00:46:32] <gamax92> bad
L91[00:46:38] <bananagram> sorry
L92[00:46:53] <iceman11a> ok, sorry I ask
????
L93[00:47:28] <gamax92> iceman11a: oh also
its "Lua" not "LUA" ;)
L94[00:47:55] <iceman11a> is there a
difference.
L95[00:48:06] <gamax92> yes
L96[00:48:10] <gamax92> one is correct and
one is not
L97[00:48:34] <iceman11a> ?. LUA or Lua
mean the same thing to me. Please explain
L98[00:48:57] <gamax92> iceman11a: refrain
from saying "LUA", its not an acronym
L99[00:49:22] <gamax92> its just
"Lua"
L100[00:49:58] <iceman11a> ?, I don't
under stand what the differnce is
L101[00:50:23] <lperkins2> In english, all
caps is used to denote acronyms.
L102[00:50:30] <gamax92> and its not an
acronym
L103[00:50:36] <gamax92> Lua is not an
acronym
L104[00:50:41] <gamax92> so don't use all
caps
L105[00:50:45] <gamax92> because its not
an acronym
L106[00:50:47] <iceman11a> what's
acronyms
L107[00:50:49] <lperkins2> Something like
CPU => Central Processing Unit
L108[00:50:55] <gamax92> Y_Y
L109[00:51:11] *
gamax92 returns to 6502 that is not working.
L110[00:51:14] <lperkins2> LUA
!=>
L111[00:51:32] <gamax92> iceman11a: just
don't say "LUA"
L112[00:51:33] <gamax92> k?
L113[00:51:37] <gamax92> use
"Lua"
L114[00:51:43] <gamax92> don't think about
it
L115[00:51:44] <gamax92> just do
L116[00:51:50] <gamax92> :)
L117[00:52:02] <iceman11a> lol, like I
said I don't see the difference. It doesn't matter.
L118[00:52:31] <gamax92> iceman11a: one
has a uppercase U and an uppercase A, one has a lowercase u and one
has a lowercase a
L119[00:52:37] <iceman11a> Does any one
have premade Lua Scripts By Chance. Is That Better
L120[00:52:41] <gamax92> :D
L121[00:52:43] <gamax92> you
learned!
L122[00:53:24] <iceman11a> Some thing
tells me you don't like the word "LUA"
L123[00:53:33] <gamax92> yes correct
L124[00:53:46] <Inari> pastebin does
L125[00:53:48] <iceman11a> So I that a bad
word in Lua
L126[00:54:03] <gamax92> wait does
pastebin have it all caps as well?
L127[00:54:45] <iceman11a> yes, Some times
I have seen it like that
L129[00:55:08] <lperkins2> Yay, it doesn't
seem to crash anymore...
L130[00:55:25] <Kodos> Please show me
where Lua has been typed in all caps so I can go call the person a
moron
L131[00:55:33] <gamax92> Kodos: no
don't
L132[00:56:00] <Kodos> gamax92, when I
first started using computer mods, namely CC, I got joke-banned for
a day for saying LUA
L133[00:56:02] <iceman11a> I have
downloaded scripts like that. That was over a year ago
L134[00:56:16] <Kodos> Only they didn't
lift the ban
L135[00:56:27] <Kodos> So I still had to
serve the full 24h
L136[00:57:02] <iceman11a> That was wrong
to ban any one for any thing. People depend on the IRC Chat
L137[00:57:21] <Kodos> Tell that to
#computercraft
L138[00:57:52] <iceman11a> why
L139[00:57:55] <gamax92> Kodos: pls
...
L140[00:58:16] <gamax92> English is a
strong language for him i see
L141[00:58:20] <gamax92> don't mislead
him
L142[00:58:24] <gamax92> is not*
L143[00:59:46] <Kodos> So I shouldn't tell
him to go tell AmandaC in #computercraft that she's a raging cunty
badmin?
L144[01:00:01] <gamax92> yes ...
L145[01:00:05] <gamax92> don't do that
...
L147[01:00:16] <Kodos> Okay, I won't tell
him to join #computercraft and tell AmandaC off
L148[01:00:22] <gamax92> .-.
L149[01:00:50] <iceman11a> So is she that
bad or just being a girl. Girls get like that some times.
L150[01:01:01] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬
L151[01:01:30] ⇦
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seconds)
L152[01:02:24] <gamax92> oh, perhaps this
rom doesn't work since i wrote the address as 00C0 and not
C000
L153[01:03:34] <Kodos> iceman11a, Be
respectful to women, please. I do not count AmandaC as a woman,
however.
L154[01:03:57] <Kodos> I will not tolerate
sexism in the channel (Even though I can't do anything about it
atm)
L155[01:04:08] ***
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L156[01:04:16] <iceman11a> Well sense I
like OC better then CC. I don't think that will be a problem
L157[01:04:56] <iceman11a> What's
sexism.
L158[01:05:21] <iceman11a> I never heard
of that word before.
L159[01:05:30] <Caitlyn>
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
L160[01:05:30] <Caitlyn> Wikipedia
L161[01:05:30] <Caitlyn> Sexism or gender
discrimination is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's
sex or gender. Sexist attitudes may stem from traditional
stereotypes of gender roles, and may include the belief that a
person of one sex is intrinsically superior to a person of the
other.
L162[01:06:11] <iceman11a> And I take it
this as happen onIRC before.
L163[01:06:26] <iceman11a> Here in the USA
we call it Sexest
L164[01:08:41] <gamax92> I'm in the usa
...
L165[01:08:43] <Dashkal> 'Murican is
supposed to be a parody, not an actual description of
people...
L166[01:08:45] <iceman11a> Any way that's
not what the IRC channels are for. We should just stick to
Minecraft
L167[01:08:58] <iceman11a> Sense that what
this channel is for
L168[01:09:07] <gamax92> okay then.
L169[01:09:11] <gamax92> 6502 :D!
L171[01:09:27] <gamax92> yes
L172[01:09:40] <bananagram> is that just
not true? it's not interfacing for me
L173[01:09:52] <gamax92> hmm ... maybe
something changed that's preventing it from doing so.
L174[01:09:53] <bananagram> though it
interfaces fine with regullar redstone
L175[01:09:58] <gamax92> might file a bug
(i cannot test)
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L177[01:11:04] <bananagram> neither
attached to a computer or attached to a block
L178[01:11:07] <gamax92> hallo OP
L179[01:11:09] <bananagram> work, that
is
L181[01:11:53] <gamax92> :D ofc ... ofc it
npe's but i get no info since oc is trapping it.
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L183[01:12:39] <OP> fam fam fam silk is
best icon set
L184[01:12:57] <Kodos> o/
L185[01:13:30] <Kodos> bananagram, let me
test that in a bit for you
L186[01:13:34] <Kodos> The redstone
stuff
L187[01:13:38] <Kodos> I've been meaning
to find out myself anyway
L188[01:14:10] ***
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L189[01:16:47] ***
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L190[01:17:36] <bananagram> okay
L191[01:18:18] <Pwootage> Evening
L192[01:19:45] <Inari> Kodos: "I do
not count AmandaC as a woman, however." how come? :o
L193[01:20:09] <Kodos> See my
aforementioned comment about her being a raging badmin
L194[01:20:12] ***
Riking|away is now known as Riking
L195[01:21:06] <Inari> how does that make
her not a woman though? xD makes no sense
L196[01:21:21] <gamax92> OP: my 6502 bios
is 31 bytes
L197[01:21:22] <gamax92> :3
L199[01:21:44] <gamax92> now to pad it to
the rom size and add the vectors.
L200[01:21:51] <gamax92> #lua 16384 -
31
L201[01:21:51] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
16353
L202[01:22:16] <gamax92> #lua 16384 - 31 -
6
L203[01:22:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
16347
L204[01:26:33] <v^> ,_, am gona teach gf
lua with cc
L205[01:26:35] *** g
is now known as gAway2002
L206[01:27:10] <Alissa> v^: s/cc/oc/
L207[01:27:14] <Alissa> actually, CC's
easier to learn wit
L208[01:27:19] <Alissa> with*
L209[01:27:21] <v^> yeah :/
L210[01:27:31] <Inari> is it?
L211[01:27:34] <gamax92> yes
L212[01:27:43] <Alissa> Depends on how
much you like OOP.
L213[01:27:59] <Inari> how does OOP realte
D:
L214[01:28:32] <Inari> should be the same
in lua 5.1 and 5.2
L215[01:28:59] <Pwootage> OP: so is it
possible to get a copy of your arm thing? <3
L216[01:29:48] <OP> I don't even have the
init.elf loader finished >.<;
L217[01:30:23] <Pwootage> :( I thought you
said you had :P I can wait for that, I guess
L218[01:30:26] <Pwootage> <3
L219[01:30:53] <Alissa> Inari: it's hwo CC
implements it
L220[01:30:57] <Alissa> file.write instead
of file:write
L221[01:31:20] <OP> Pwootage: it's almost
finished, the last thing I fixed was loading from eeprom
L222[01:31:29] <OP> the eeprom is the
init.elf loader
L223[01:31:42] <Pwootage> Neat
L224[01:32:04] <Pwootage> btw thanks a ton
for letting me use this... it's going to make my class way more fun
(hopefully)
L225[01:33:14] <OP> currently I have to
work on a 2d bone animation suite so I can do this group project in
my programming class
L226[01:33:25] <gamax92> ohai
Pwootage
L227[01:34:44] <Pwootage> hallo gamax92.
Sup?
L228[01:35:01] <gamax92> well ... besides
my test rom filling the screen with NUL characters, things are
great
L229[01:35:20] <Pwootage> hehe
L231[01:35:35] <OP> gamax92: NUL NUL NUL
NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL
NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL
L232[01:35:42] <OP> woops I ran your test
rom
L233[01:35:47] <Pwootage> s/NUL
/NUL/
L234[01:35:47] <Kibibyte> <OP>
gamax92: NULNUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL
NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL NUL
L235[01:35:51] <Pwootage> s/NUL
/NUL/g
L236[01:35:51] <Kibibyte> <OP>
gamax92:
NULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNUL
L237[01:35:56] <gamax92> .-.
L238[01:36:11] <bananagram>
s/[NUL]/NUL/g
L239[01:36:11] <Kibibyte> <OP>
gamax92:
NULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNULNUL
L240[01:36:27] *
bananagram is slapped
L242[01:36:46] <gamax92> :O crap i just
realized something
L243[01:36:58] <gamax92> if length is 0, i
don't immediately jump back to beginning
L244[01:37:08] <gamax92> so instead it
gets subtracted to FF
L245[01:38:33] <gamax92> oh and
"newPart != curPart" ... which is also a bug.
L247[01:39:37] <OP> oh great
L248[01:39:49] <OP> oh god
L249[01:39:50] <gamax92> iceman11a: a file
extension and a name of a language are two different things.
L250[01:39:55] <OP> OH GOD
L251[01:40:00] <OP> OH GOOOOOOOD
L252[01:40:09] <OP> LUA files are
Developer Files primarily associated with Lua Player for PSP Script
(InsertWittyName).
L253[01:40:15] <OP> LUA files are also
associated with Homeworld Generic Lua File (Sierra Entertainment
Inc.), Lua Source (Tecgraf - Computer Graphics Technology Group)
and FileViewPro.
L254[01:40:18] <OP> >FileViewPro
L255[01:40:27] <gamax92> OP: oh thats
shitware software.
L256[01:40:30] <OP> Download an Lua File
Opener
L257[01:40:34] <gamax92> and that.
L258[01:40:36] <gamax92> more
shitware
L259[01:41:04] <OP> I will fucking get
that site closed
L260[01:41:12] <OP> Lua is not an
acronym
L261[01:41:20] <OP> Lua is not a FUCKING
acronym
L262[01:41:27] <OP> FUCKING, however,
is
L263[01:41:45] <gamax92> HOW DARE YOU USE
Lua IN ALL CAPS!
L264[01:41:46] <OP> Fortification under
consent of the king in nigerian games
L265[01:41:49] <gamax92> XD
L266[01:42:54] ⇦
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L267[01:43:06] <Pwootage> LUA
L268[01:44:07] <gamax92> oh i should
probably put a newline in my rom
L269[01:44:11] <gamax92> welp more
bytes.
L270[01:44:59] <gamax92> this is best note
"I made this rom in a hex editor" "sorry no source
code." "" "Feel free to use a
dissassembler"
L271[01:45:20] <Pwootage> why would you
write a x86 rom in hex
L272[01:45:23] <Pwootage> or are you
6502
L273[01:45:27] <gamax92> 6502
L274[01:45:30] <Pwootage> ok less
confused
L275[01:45:34] <Pwootage> still, that's
what asm is for
L276[01:46:01] <OP> to assemble
L277[01:46:03] <gamax92> i don't know how
to tell my assembler rom's should be 16K and to start addresses at
0xC000 D:
L278[01:46:04] <OP> assemble
L279[01:46:09] <OP> gamax92: .org
L280[01:46:13] <OP> and linker
scripts
L282[01:46:20] <gamax92> OP: this is
crasm
L283[01:46:27] <OP> sar crasm
L285[01:46:37] <gamax92> ?_?
L286[01:46:38] <OP> Sorry my eyes broke
again
L287[01:46:55] <gamax92> >Sorry my eyes
broke again
L288[01:47:23] <OP> don't ask
L289[01:47:27] <OP> don't tell
L290[01:47:32] <Pwootage> In my assembler.
.align <bytes>
L291[01:48:03] <gamax92> ALMOST
L292[01:48:07] <gamax92> IT ALMOST WORKED
:d
L293[01:48:20] <Pwootage> it's not a 6502
assmebler though (although you could make it one easily
enough)
L295[01:49:42] <gamax92> i forgot to clear
the signal
L296[01:49:47] <gamax92>
s/clear/remove/
L297[01:49:47] <Kibibyte> <gamax92>
i forgot to remove the signal
L298[01:49:48] <Pwootage> nice
L299[01:50:20] <Pwootage> gamax92:
[std]ey_down
L300[01:50:29] <gamax92> i dunt know
L301[01:50:51] <gamax92> but imma add the
signal clear opcodes real quick.
L302[01:50:57] <Hatsuse> heeeeey
L303[01:51:00] <gamax92> heeeeeey
L304[01:51:12] <bananagram> Kodos: did you
test the rednet?
L305[01:51:32] <Kodos> Not yet, finishing
up some stuff on another server with a friend
L306[01:51:41] <Pwootage> OP: did you
decide on a MMU format yet?
L307[01:51:56] <bananagram> k
L308[01:52:10] <bananagram> I want someone
to verify it before submitting it as a bug
L309[01:52:23] ***
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L310[01:52:28] <Inari> Alissa: well theres
filesystem.write :p
L311[01:52:31] <OP> Pwootage: not really,
I do have the MMU implemented tho
L312[01:52:44] <OP> And the IO mapping for
it partially implemented
L313[01:52:51] <Pwootage> OP: well that's
close then
L314[01:53:11] <Pwootage> All I really
need is enough to map a process
L315[01:53:26] <OP> it should be enough to
map a process
L317[01:53:48] <Alissa> Inari: Does OC
really do that?
L318[01:53:56] <Alissa> I was really
hoping it used more OOP :|
L319[01:53:59] <Pwootage> It does
L320[01:54:15] <Alissa> shameful
:<
L321[01:54:17] <Pwootage>
f=io.open("path", "r"); f:read(1024)
L322[01:54:26] <Alissa> that's what I
meant
L323[01:54:31] <Pwootage> (or
f:write("asdfjkl;"))
L324[01:54:33] <Alissa> the use of :read()
instead of .read()
L325[01:54:39] <Alissa> and :write()
instead of .write()
L326[01:54:50] <Pwootage> that's how
PacYak is written yeah
L327[01:55:55] <Pwootage> so it definately
works
L329[01:56:56] <Inari> local handle =
filesystem.open("foo.txt", "r")
filesystem.write(handle, "blah")
filesytem.close(handle)
L330[01:57:11] <Inari> filesystme being a
proxy ofc
L331[01:57:25] <Alissa> well, Inari
L332[01:57:38] <Alissa> if handle has an
index set to filesystem
L333[01:57:40] <Alissa> then in
theory
L334[01:57:47] <Alissa> you could
handle:write("blah")
L335[01:57:53] <Inari> handle is just a
number or so
L336[01:58:07] <Alissa> oh.
L337[01:58:12] <Inari> and well im just
saying OC also provides the "easier" variant :p
L338[01:58:26] <Alissa> Reminds me of
POSIX.... :P
L339[01:59:40] <Alissa> speaking of, I
need to implement my :settimeout() into my posix socket
library
L340[01:59:43] <gamax92> OKAY then ... 39
bytes
L341[01:59:51] <gamax92> #lua 16384 - 39 -
6
L342[01:59:51] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
16339
L343[02:02:33] <gamax92> what even is this
stx byte
L345[02:04:02] <Pwootage> gamax92: option
#2: relocate the last...45? bytes as part of the init phase
L346[02:04:19] <gamax92> Pwootage: ?_?
what
L347[02:04:22] <gamax92> what is this
for
L348[02:04:38] <Pwootage> as another
option instead of making a 16k EEPROM
L349[02:04:50] <gamax92> where did 45 come
from?
L350[02:05:41] <Pwootage> <gamax92>
f#lua 16384 - 39 - 6
L351[02:05:45] <Pwootage> -f
L352[02:05:49] <gamax92> oh that
L353[02:06:16] <gamax92> no the opcodes
are all at 0xC000
L354[02:06:21] <gamax92> rom space is
16384 bytes
L355[02:06:43] <gamax92> 39 bytes for the
opcodes, and 6 bytes for the jump vectors at 0xFFFA to 0xFFFF
L356[02:06:59] <gamax92> and now i know
how much zero padding i need
L357[02:07:06] <Pwootage> well in that
case load at 0, relocate to 0xC000 (unless PC starts at
0xC000?)
L358[02:07:19] <gamax92> PC starts at the
second jump vector
L359[02:07:48] <Pwootage> ox 0xFFFB?
L360[02:07:55] <Pwootage> so*
L361[02:07:57] <gamax92> close, they are
two bytes.
L362[02:08:00] <gamax92> since PC is
16bit
L363[02:08:05] <ShadowKatStudios> So, in
light of the name change thing, I've finally migrated my Minecraft
account to mojang
L364[02:08:12] <Pwootage> 0xFFFC
L365[02:08:19] <Pwootage>
ShadowKatStudios: lol finally
L366[02:08:32] <Pwootage> I have no
intention of renaming my very old minecraft username
L367[02:08:37] <gamax92> if 0xFFFC and
0xFFFD are 0x00,0xC0 respectively, the 6502 will boot up and start
PC at $C000
L368[02:09:31] <ShadowKatStudios> I intend
to.
L369[02:09:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Mine is
a pain.
L370[02:09:54] <Pwootage> "24 July,
2010" apparently (Mine is Pwootage)
L371[02:09:58] <gamax92> also I'm not sure
if i was sick or something when i wrote this ....thing? "
this.part = ByteBuffer.allocate(1 + ((String)
part).length()).put((byte) 2).put(((String)
part).getBytes()).array(); "
L372[02:10:03] <gamax92> like ...
wat
L373[02:11:20] <Pwootage> gamax92: WIthout
firuing otu what it even does, wat
L374[02:11:45] <gamax92> firuing
otu?
L375[02:12:30] <Pwootage> my fingers
L376[02:12:32] <Pwootage> they no
worky
L377[02:12:37] <Pwootage> figuring it
out
L378[02:12:43] <Pwootage> (dinner, back
later)
L379[02:12:47] <gamax92> lol...
L380[02:13:01] <gamax92> no i get what it
does, I just don't know why its missing a byte.
L381[02:13:06] <gamax92> it just looks
funny
L382[02:13:08] <ShadowKatStudios> knew it,
knew it, knew it- Shizuo has the same english VA as Kyon
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L385[02:17:46] <gamax92> Hai Soni
L386[02:18:07] <Soni> eh I guess I'm still
alive
L387[02:18:38] <gamax92> I read that and
thought of Portal
L388[02:19:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Will
there be cake?
L389[02:19:33] <gamax92> OH i see ... its
not skipping the first byte!
L390[02:19:51] <gamax92> just that the
character for STX is two characters wide
L391[02:20:01] <gamax92> so i just need to
skip the first byte and all is well
L392[02:21:11] <gamax92> so, test rom
expands even more.
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L394[02:22:20] <gamax92> hey Soni
L395[02:22:45] <Soni> hi?
L397[02:23:57] <Soni> I don't know 6502
bincode, only 6502 asm (kinda)
L398[02:25:15] <gamax92> #lua 16384 - 42 -
6
L399[02:25:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
16336
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L401[02:25:49] <Pwootage> #g 6502
disassembler
L403[02:26:01] <Kodos> bananagram,
redstone IO block does NOT handle bundled redstone
L404[02:26:03] <Pwootage> I don't trust
that link for some reason
L405[02:28:49] <gamax92> aaand now i have
a NUL at the end :P
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L407[02:29:33] <Pwootage> print one too
many ;D
L408[02:30:34] <gamax92> k, 44 bytes
:P
L409[02:32:41] <Pwootage> Time to work on
pacyak I guess
L410[02:33:47] <bananagram> Kodos, what
about rednet cables?
L411[02:34:01] <Kodos> I used RedNet to
test
L413[02:34:05] <Kodos> It did not
work
L414[02:34:08] <bananagram> hm
L415[02:35:02] <Pwootage> gamax92,
:D
L416[02:40:25] <bananagram> I should ask
Sangar about this
L417[02:40:43] <bananagram> should I be
using setBundledOutput for rednet?
L418[02:40:58] <bananagram> doesn't seem
like it
L419[02:41:18] <gamax92> #lua
1000/160
L420[02:41:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
6.25
L421[02:41:25] <bananagram> .wiki
color
L423[02:41:33] <gamax92> #lua
1000/160*20
L424[02:41:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
125
L425[02:41:51] <gamax92> anyway to put
ehbasic back :P
L426[02:42:04] <gamax92> at least the
signals device works.
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L428[02:43:02] <Soni> gamax92, what is
it?
L429[02:43:10] <gamax92> which part?
L430[02:43:57] <Soni> what is in
$8800+?
L431[02:44:41] <gamax92> $8800-$8803 is an
ACIA, $8804-$8805 is the bankswitcher, $8806-$8809 is the signals
device
L432[02:46:51] <Soni> what do they
do?
L433[02:47:12] <Soni> well ok uhh I know
what a bankswitcher does
L434[02:47:36] <Soni> but what about the
rest?
L435[02:48:16] <Pwootage> so uh
L436[02:48:19] ***
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L437[02:48:25] <Pwootage> internet api
does not appear to be returning lines
L438[02:49:27] <gamax92> Soni: oh the ACIA
is basically for reading/writing from a terminal
L439[02:49:32] *** OP
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L440[02:49:37] <gamax92> except in this
case, it reads from the keyboard and writes to the gpu
L441[02:50:01] <gamax92> and the signals
device is just .... OpenComputers' signals?
L442[02:50:08] <Soni> gamax92, uhh but OC
is UTF-8...
L443[02:50:17] <Soni> oh wait
L444[02:50:30] <Soni> you can have read
and write do completely different things
L445[02:50:31] <Soni> right
L446[02:50:54] <gamax92> well, you can't
access all of the unicode from the 6502 :<
L447[02:51:29] <gamax92> all that the
architecture will see is this "Oh, the VM pushed a byte to the
ACIA"
L448[02:51:37] <gamax92> "Lemme
display it to the screen"
L449[02:51:56] <Soni> so I can't ¬_¬ in
6502?
L450[02:52:00] <gamax92> yes
L451[02:52:02] <Soni> are you fucking
kidding me? ¬_¬
L452[02:52:08] <gamax92> nope
L453[02:53:06] <Soni> fix it ¬_¬
L454[02:53:11] <gamax92> no .-.
L455[02:53:17] <Soni> please ¬_¬
L456[02:53:19] <gamax92> .-.
L457[02:53:36] <Soni> why not? ¬_¬
L458[02:53:37] <gamax92> you realize how
much more complex that makes my ConsoleDriver.java?
L459[02:54:49] <gamax92> Soni: I'll look
into supporting utf8
L460[02:54:58] <Soni> byte[] b =
str.toByteArray("UTF-8"); insert(0x8800, b, 0, 4); //
where 0 is startpos (inclusive) and 4 is endpos (exclusive)
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L462[02:59:03] <gamax92> Soni: .-. i still
have no ansi escape sequence handling in my ConsoleDriver
L463[02:59:20] <Soni> gamax92, don't use
ANSI?
L464[02:59:42] <gamax92> Soni: then how
will i move the cursor around and change color?
L465[02:59:43] <Soni> mouse clicks =
interrupts (why not?)
L466[03:00:02] <Soni> move the cursor
around? good question
L467[03:00:09] <Soni> change color? that's
part of writing to the screen
L468[03:00:31] <Soni> (you write the color
bytes first, then the letter bytes)
L469[03:00:54] <gamax92> except this is a
Terminal
L470[03:01:10] <Soni> I thought it was an
OC screen?
L471[03:01:23] <gamax92> its emulating a
Terminal on an oc screen
L472[03:01:45] <Soni> uhh
L473[03:01:51] <Soni> get gnome-vte
L474[03:01:58] <Soni> or any other
vte
L475[03:02:03] <gamax92> Soni: how does
that help me ...
L476[03:02:06] <Pwootage> Why is this
dying
L477[03:02:09] <Soni> then call that code
to do the ANSI
L478[03:02:15] <gamax92> .... no
L479[03:02:18] <Soni> then parse the
results
L480[03:02:21] <gamax92> .... no
L481[03:02:22] <gamax92> just no
L482[03:02:25] <gamax92> so much no.
L483[03:02:30] <Soni> why no?
L485[03:02:41] <Soni> it's just a idk how
many MBs lib you don't actually need
L486[03:02:42] <gamax92> Soni: relying on
an external program ,-,
L487[03:02:47] <gamax92> exactly
L488[03:03:03] <Soni> well that's the
point of coding
L489[03:03:16] <Soni> also
L490[03:03:31] <Soni> please rm -rf your
hard drive
L491[03:03:36] <gamax92> nah
L492[03:04:02] <Soni> that code is
UGLY
L493[03:04:12] <gamax92> nah
L494[03:04:20] <gamax92> you fix it
then
L495[03:04:23] <gamax92> I'll accept
pr
L496[03:04:32] <Soni> not as ugly as the
hacks to draw a GUI in front of a GUI, but still UGLY
L497[03:04:50] <Soni> take a look at how I
do things in NBX-API
L498[03:04:58] <gamax92> nah
L499[03:05:11] <Soni> (altho it's not that
great, it's a lot better than it was when it started)
L500[03:08:00] <Soni> why do you have that
huge switch?
L501[03:08:13] <gamax92> idunno
L502[03:08:57] <Soni> why not
MyInterface[] parsers = new MyInterface[something]; and later on
parsers[index](stuff);?
L503[03:09:05] <Soni> that way it's more
dynamic
L504[03:09:31] <Soni> (and then you can
easily add tiers, for example)
L505[03:09:33] <gamax92> >_> why
would i create a whole new interface and something to implement
that interface ...
L506[03:09:44] <gamax92> WHY YOU PUT TIERS
.-.
L507[03:09:46] <Soni> also my stomach
hurts ;_;
L508[03:10:04] <gamax92> is it
hungry?
L509[03:10:05] <gamax92> then eat
L510[03:10:08] <gamax92> if not, then
don't et
L511[03:11:23] <Soni> no I'm not
hungry
L512[03:12:10] <Soni> anyway bbiab
L513[03:16:37] <Caitlyn> no gamax92
L514[03:17:10] <gamax92> :<
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L516[03:17:20] <gamax92> okay :(
L517[03:22:05] ***
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L518[03:31:46] <Pwootage> anyone know
anything about /boot and/or /etc/rc.d?
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L524[03:41:40] <CaptainPotato>
Baaaaaaaaaaack
L525[03:41:54] ***
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L526[03:42:42] <PotatoTrumpet> :( Why must
everyone be dead when I get home
L529[03:43:27] -Kibibyte- [PotatoTrumpet] 2014
Azle High School Indoor Drumline(Multi-Angle) | by
pXrE1Q5jWMDB9ufo8zGqww | 6m38s | 39w5d ago | 5,667 views | Rated:
4.83/5.00
L530[03:46:18] <PotatoTrumpet> wtf
L531[03:46:28] <PotatoTrumpet> why is he
chopping a loaf of bread with a door stoppper
L532[03:47:20] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet:
ikr
L533[03:48:51] <PotatoTrumpet> he MUST
have been coding all night
L534[03:48:55] <PotatoTrumpet> dear
god
L535[03:49:04] <PotatoTrumpet> I puyt my
popcorn in the microwave upside down
L536[03:49:06] <PotatoTrumpet> meh
L538[03:57:34] -Kibibyte- [justsaying] The Real
Edge of Glory | by penguinz0 | 2m17s | 101w0d ago | 1,878,927 views
| Rated:
4.97/5.00
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L541[04:00:21] <PotatoTrumpet> 10/10
L542[04:00:34] <PotatoTrumpet> want
kiwi
L543[04:00:39] <justsaying> lol
L544[04:06:17] <Soni> back
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L546[04:15:13] <Pwootage> uh
L547[04:15:14] <Pwootage> program
args
L548[04:15:18] <Pwootage> why can't I
remember
L549[04:16:46] <Pwootage> thank you
"edit /bin/echo.lua"
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L552[04:29:17] <PotatoTrumpet>
Gooooooooooooood night
L553[04:29:32] ***
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L556[04:40:24] <gamax92> Pwootage:
nice
L557[04:40:29] <gamax92> now port it to
6502
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L559[04:41:30] <Pwootage> uh no
L560[04:41:35] <gamax92> uh yes
L561[04:41:39] <gamax92> :)
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L565[04:51:06] <Pwootage> Problem with
tesitng boot scripts
L566[04:51:16] <Pwootage> if they crash,
you have to move your HDD to fix it
L567[04:55:52] <Pwootage> k so can you
bind hdds in an external component?
L568[04:55:55] <Pwootage> like maybe
another computer?
L569[05:04:29] <Kodos> RAIDS wrap 3 of
them as a fs
L570[05:04:32] <Kodos> Not sure how
tho
L571[05:06:21] <Pwootage> yeah but I don't
need that, I need a single one :(
L572[05:06:39] <Pwootage> I need to edit
my broken t3 and don't want ot mess around with a server rack
L573[05:06:42] <Pwootage> looks like
that's what I get to do
L574[05:10:52] <gamax92> ad0688 c900 f0f9
a900 8d0788 ad0888 ae0988 e901 ae0988 8e0088 e901 c900 d0f4 a90a
8d0688 8d0088 4c00c0 40
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L577[05:12:26] <gamax92> lperkins2: :D
hello
L578[05:13:34] <Pwootage> Duh, I can edit
it myself
L579[05:13:40] <Pwootage> >.>
L580[05:13:48] <Pwootage> delete file from
real hard disk
L581[05:13:52] <Pwootage> dissapears from
virtual one
L582[05:14:16] <lperkins2> Aye?
L584[05:14:30] <gamax92> here lies my
entire 6502 test rom i made
L585[05:14:34] <lperkins2> What is
this?
L586[05:14:42] <lperkins2> Ah.
L587[05:14:46] <lperkins2> What's it
do?
L588[05:14:50] <gamax92> also i made this
in a hex editor
L589[05:14:55] <lperkins2> Ouch.
L590[05:15:00] <gamax92> oh i was testing
and fixing the Signals device for my 6502 arch
L591[05:15:40] <gamax92> i also fixed the
fact that recomputeMemory was being called before initialize, and
therefor i had no vm to recomputeMemory on.
L592[05:15:46] <gamax92> so ... now it
checks for that.
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L594[05:21:55] <lperkins2> Nice.
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L596[05:28:13] <Pwootage> lperkins2, how
goes your thing?
L597[05:40:41] <lperkins2> Um, it
goes?
L598[05:40:51] <gamax92> craaaaaaaap
L599[05:40:57] <gamax92> how do i
computer.beep from java
L600[05:41:00] <gamax92> i need to
interpret BEL
L601[05:41:15] <lperkins2> I'm slowly
finding event loops and what not that are not getting started and
integrating them into the main loop.
L602[05:41:25] <lperkins2> JPC normally
multithreads, which I need to avoid,
L603[05:41:49] <gamax92>
computronics!
L604[05:41:51] <gamax92> there we go
L605[05:41:55] <lperkins2> so I'm having
to slice the various threads into pieces that can be called from a
single handler.
L606[05:43:44] <gamax92> :X or not beep
card
L607[05:49:11] <Pwootage> pacyak is
getting closer
L608[05:49:14] <Pwootage> building the
lists system now
L609[05:49:54] <lperkins2> It
boots!!!
L610[05:50:13] <gamax92> lperkins2:
:D
L611[05:50:14] <lperkins2> The last even
loop I was missing was the stuff to do IRQs
L612[05:50:35] <lperkins2> I had to enable
escape continuations, which suck in java :(
L613[05:51:56] <lperkins2> Now I just need
to make the serial terminal work again and it should be useable,
assuming the keyboard works
L614[05:52:40] <gamax92> hmm, now to see
if this beep stuff works.
L615[05:52:56] <lperkins2> It no longer
makes me sig9 minecraft to get out of it either :)
L616[05:54:21] <gamax92> :D beepie
works.
L617[05:55:06] <gamax92>
PacketSender.sendSound(machine.host().world(),
machine.host().xPosition(), machine.host().yPosition(),
machine.host().zPosition(), "-.--.");
L618[05:58:10] <lperkins2> I think I need
to update openAL, it fails to play those.
L619[05:58:55] <gamax92> :D i've
implemented BEL
L620[05:59:17] <lperkins2> How do you set
the pitch for that?
L621[05:59:27] <gamax92> ehh, thats a
different function iirc
L622[05:59:27] <lperkins2> Can you?
L623[05:59:32] <lperkins2> Fair
enough.
L624[06:00:03] <gamax92>
PacketSender.sendSound(host.world, host.xPosition, host.yPosition,
host.zPosition, frequency, durationInMilliseconds) // Note this is
scala
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L627[06:00:19] <lperkins2> I don't suppose
there is a midi player implemented is there?
L628[06:00:24] <gamax92> yep
L629[06:00:44] <lperkins2> Heh, I can
probably make sound, at least midi, work from inside the vm
then.
L630[06:01:10] <gamax92>
PacketSender.sendSound(machine().host().world(),
machine.host().xPosition(), machine().host().yPosition(),
machine().host().zPosition(), frequency, durationInMilliseconds);
// would be architecture java
L631[06:01:28] <lperkins2> What about
arbitrary audio data?
L632[06:01:41] <SuPeRMiNoR2> damn that is
a lot of ()
L633[06:01:43] <lperkins2> I'm looking to
see if it has a soundblaster card.
L634[06:01:44] <gamax92> well ..., time to
learn some networking and openal then
L635[06:02:01] <gamax92> or steal asie's
asielib which has audio stuff :3
L636[06:02:28] <lperkins2> Hm, doesn't
look like it supports soundblaster.
L637[06:02:37] <gamax92> jpc doesn't have
soundblaster? :O
L638[06:02:57] <lperkins2> Not in the PC
speaker package, I'm looking to see if there is a separate one, but
I doubt it.
L639[06:03:03] <lperkins2> It has midi and
beep
L640[06:03:15] <gamax92> I'd be frightened
of the opl3 it could have.
L641[06:04:39] <lperkins2> Would be easy
enough to add soundblaster, if anyone has the hardware specs for
it.
L642[06:04:57] <gamax92> lperkins2: isn't
there org.jpc.modules.?
L643[06:05:19] <lperkins2> It's
org.jpc.emulator.peripheral and pci.peripheral
L644[06:05:31] <lperkins2> No soundblaster
or audio card except PCSpeaker
L645[06:05:49] <gamax92> sb16 is isa
...
L646[06:07:38] <lperkins2> Right, so the
jpc.peripherals are ISA,
L647[06:07:50] <lperkins2> the
jpc.pci.peripherals are pci
L648[06:08:01] <lperkins2> It uses a
PCIISABridge
L649[06:08:26] <lperkins2> Intel 82371SB
PIIX3 specifically
L650[06:09:00] <gamax92> lperkins2: oh
well i guess it doesn't have an adlib or sb
L651[06:09:33] <lperkins2> Right, and I
don't know what the various opcodes are for a soundblaster
card.
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L653[06:10:00] <gamax92> lperkins2: oh
well, qemu ... dosbox ... pcem ... the thousands of txt files
documenting them ...
L654[06:10:02] <gamax92> you know
...
L655[06:10:19] <lperkins2> Aye, but I'd
rather get other things working first :)
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L658[06:11:29] <gamax92> I'mma see if i
can get the very minimum of a cursor for my ConsoleDriver
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L661[06:41:02] <lperkins2> A lua packager
using github?
L662[06:41:43] <gamax92> well that didn't
happen
L663[06:41:57] <gamax92> instead i
possibly implemented some untested ansi escape sequences
L664[06:43:34] <Pwootage> lperkins2, well
mine happens to use github, but those lists can be hosted on any
webserver
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L668[06:46:23] <Vexatos> Noice
L669[06:47:09] <Pwootage> the pacyak
installer works, but you can't actually install anything with it
yet :P need to make a test package
L670[06:49:15] <Vexatos> Integrate the
OpenPrograms system into it
L671[06:49:20] <Vexatos> :P
L672[06:49:24] <Vexatos> I need to go
again
L673[06:49:26] <Vexatos> SCHOOOL
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L675[06:49:47] <Pwootage> NEVER
L676[06:49:54] <Pwootage> OPPM has a
terribad format ;D
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L683[07:19:31] <ShadowKatStudios> So
L684[07:19:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyone
want to guess what game I bought today?
L686[07:21:46] <Pwootage> a terrible
guess
L687[07:22:08] <ShadowKatStudios> I got
Morrowind.
L688[07:22:55] *
gamax92 is still proud of the 44 byte rom he wrote in a hex
editor
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L691[07:36:48] <Pwootage> gamax92, or you
could have written not-hex ;D
L692[07:36:51] <Pwootage> although good
job
L693[07:36:52] <Pwootage> btw
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L695[07:38:48] <Pwootage> pacyak can
update itself
L696[07:38:49] <Pwootage> awesome
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L699[07:53:30] <ShadowKatStudios> #lua
("ShadowKatStudios"):len()
L700[07:53:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
16
L701[07:54:33] <Dashkal> Things that are
more fun than they should be... Finally got an X server installed
on my windows machine. I can finally use my normal terminal for
things like IRC.
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L708[08:10:07] <Pwootage> rddit tells me
5.3 has been released
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L710[08:12:44] <ShadowKatStudios> #lua
("OASESFIFEDTHEFTTEFFS24225"):len()
L711[08:12:44] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
25
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L715[08:22:23] <GreaseMonkey> to be blunt
sometimes it is PHP
L716[08:23:05] <GreaseMonkey> e.g. libgd
is very useful
L717[08:23:16] <Pwootage> I have a very
very hard time every suggesting php
L718[08:23:26] <Pwootage> I will probably
never suggest it
L719[08:24:00] <Pwootage> Every took has
it's job - but I'm having a really hard time finding a job for
php
L720[08:25:08] <Pwootage> .ping
L721[08:25:08] <^v> Ping reply from
Pwootage 0.41s
L722[08:25:22] <skyem> .p
L723[08:25:22] <^v> Ping reply from skyem
0.25s
L724[08:25:23] <Pwootage> k so existing
connections are fine, only new ones are acting slow
L725[08:28:31] <Pwootage> goodnight
everyone... finally ;D
L726[08:28:58] <ShadowKatStudios> VMWare
works well on windows but terribly on Linux.
L727[08:29:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Noted,
VirtualBox beats the shit out of VMWare, still.
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L731[08:41:48] <lperkins2> PHP is great
for someone just learning, who has some background in HTML.
L732[08:42:30] <lperkins2> It lets you
abstract away the database and what not, and just calculate your
values to embed as you go. Of course that quickly becomes a
liability, but for someone just trying to figure out how
programming works, it is kind of nice.
L733[08:43:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
Morrowind installed :D
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L735[09:01:06] <GreaseMonkey> php is good
for getting shit done fast
L736[09:01:10] <GreaseMonkey> well, simple
shit really
L737[09:01:28] <GreaseMonkey> i did not
say "getting shit running at a really high speed", i'm
talking about dev time
L738[09:01:28] <ShadowKatStudios> <?php
print_file("filename") ?>
L739[09:01:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Dumping
a folder of text files to a webpage, too.
L740[09:02:04] <GreaseMonkey> i wonder if
i still have that incomplete raycaster i made for drawing minecraft
maps
L741[09:02:17] <GreaseMonkey> it's slow as
balls and chews all the RAM but it works
L742[09:03:28] <Kodos> I want LuaIDE in
OC
L743[09:03:44] <ShadowKatStudios> I want
vim in OC.
L744[09:03:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I don't
like IDEs.
L745[09:03:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Unless
they're hard drives.
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L748[09:05:01] <GreaseMonkey> vim is
great
L749[09:05:07] <GreaseMonkey> vim is
love
L750[09:05:08] <GreaseMonkey> vim is
life
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L754[09:51:19] <Kubuxu> vim is best login
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L774[12:15:26] *
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L775[12:15:36] <Sangar> good morning,
people of the interwebs
L776[12:16:35] <asie> Sangar: go back to
sleep
L777[12:17:39] <Sangar> D:
L778[12:17:44] <Sangar> why?
L779[12:19:05] <asie> Sangar: no reason,
just do
L780[12:19:09] <Kilobyte> Sangar: yay for
early morning github conversations xD
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L782[12:19:13] <Sangar> haha
L783[12:19:15] <Kilobyte> "early
morning"
L784[12:19:18] <Sangar> yeah :P
L785[12:19:24] <ShadowKatStudios> 3 of the
icons on my desktop are VNs, two are TES games, and one is skype,
which I didn't add. Say anything about me?
L786[12:19:27] <Kilobyte> have an exam
tomorrow
L787[12:19:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Hai
sangar
L788[12:19:47] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
topic?
L789[12:19:47] <Kilobyte> and i heard
yesterday that i can't use a programmable/graphic calculator
L790[12:19:59] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
economics shit...
L791[12:20:02] <Sangar> why would they
disallow that o.O
L792[12:20:21] <Kilobyte> so i am stuck
with an ancient omron one my mum used in school
L793[12:20:48] <Kilobyte> best part: it
uses reverse polish notation
L794[12:21:00] <ShadowKatStudios> yay
RPN
L795[12:21:02] <Kilobyte> aka lots of fun
to be had
L796[12:21:11] <Kilobyte> and it has a
stack size of 2
L797[12:21:16] <Sangar> yay
L798[12:21:26] <Kilobyte> or is it 4? not
sure
L799[12:21:37] <Kilobyte> anyways, it only
shows top of stack at any point
L800[12:22:24] <Kilobyte> because yeah,
the calculator we had to use for school is both programmable and
graphical
L801[12:22:55] <Kilobyte>
("programmable", its a shitty BASIC ripoff. At least you
don't need to prefix line numbers)
L802[12:22:57] <Sangar> start a shell on
your phone and use a command line calc :P
L803[12:23:05] <ShadowKatStudios> dc
L804[12:23:07] <Kilobyte> can't
L805[12:23:10] <Kilobyte> because i have
to leave phone at front desk
L806[12:23:19] <ShadowKatStudios> dc is
best calculator
L807[12:23:25] <Sangar> but it'd be a
non-graphical calculator!
L808[12:23:29] <ShadowKatStudios> can
phones gcc?
L809[12:23:37] <Kilobyte>
ShadowKatStudios: why not
L810[12:23:45] <Kilobyte> i might not even
be allowed to use the calc instruction manual in exam
L811[12:23:50] <Kilobyte> which would
suck
L812[12:23:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Does
android come with gcc?
L813[12:24:05] <Kilobyte>
ShadowKatStudios: no, but you can cross compile it for
android
L814[12:24:16] <ShadowKatStudios>
works.
L815[12:24:34] <Kilobyte> and then you
have gcc on android
L816[12:24:35] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
cross-compile gcc for android
L817[12:24:52] <Kilobyte>
ShadowKatStudios: i might eventually write an android package
manager
L818[12:25:02] <Kilobyte> if you wanna
help out, you are welcome
L819[12:25:14] <Kilobyte> yesterday i had
some fun compiling asterisk (SIP server) on a raspberry
L820[12:25:21] <Kilobyte> couldn't get
cross compiling to work
L821[12:25:38] <Kilobyte> aka about 3-4
hours compile time
L822[12:25:48] <ShadowKatStudios>
fun
L823[12:25:49] <Kilobyte> instead of like
1-2 mins on my desktop
L824[12:25:57] <ShadowKatStudios> my phone
is 800mhz
L825[12:26:03] <ShadowKatStudios>
compiling will be fun
L826[12:26:14] <Kilobyte> i wouldve
compiled in qemu, but apparently that outputs buggy builds
L827[12:26:35] <Kilobyte>
ShadowKatStudios: my idea for the package manager would be pacman
based, working both non-root and root
L828[12:26:45] <Kilobyte> although, i
might not get non-root to work
L829[12:27:15] <Kilobyte> then an app
frontend
L830[12:30:01] <ShadowKatStudios>
argh
L831[12:30:17] <ShadowKatStudios>
morrowind has positioned its window above my screen
L832[12:30:18] <ShadowKatStudios>
thanks
L833[12:30:30] <ShadowKatStudios> how do I
fix this shit on Windows
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L835[12:30:35] <ShadowKatStudios> there's
no xlib
L837[12:32:30] <Kilobyte>
ShadowKatStudios: changing ur os? :P
L838[12:34:43] <ShadowKatStudios> playing
morrowind
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L840[12:35:41] <newTest> names
L841[12:36:10] <Kilobyte> thats not how it
works
L843[12:36:22] <dangranos> kill that
guy
L844[12:36:23] <dangranos> pls
L845[12:36:42] <dangranos> >hitty
implented functions so your mind will blew up if you try to make
your own OS, unless you copy/pasta the entire code or rewrite it by
yourself.
L846[12:36:49] <dangranos> thats the point
of making OS :|
L847[12:37:06] <dangranos> > decompile
the mod to get some "hidden basic" functions, ex. the
kernel
L848[12:37:08] <dangranos> wuuuuut
L849[12:37:19] <Kilobyte> dangranos:
ikr
L850[12:37:36] <Kilobyte> he probably has
no clue what github actually is for
L851[12:37:44] *
Sangar shrugs
L852[12:37:53] <dangranos> "yet
another forum" maybe
L853[12:38:00] <Kilobyte> lol yeah
L854[12:38:09] <newTest> Hey, how many
users are there in this channel?
L855[12:38:27] <Kilobyte> manmaed|AFK:
115
L856[12:38:32] <Kilobyte> err newTest
^
L857[12:38:35] <Sangar> more than you get
displayed ingame probably :P
L858[12:39:14] <Kilobyte> Sangar: just
curious, how likely is OpenOS to get ANSI escape sequence
support?
L859[12:39:18] <dangranos>
#blamesangar
L860[12:39:31] <Kilobyte> for like, colors
and shit
L861[12:39:43] <dangranos> Kilobyte, you
could do it right now
L862[12:39:51] <dangranos> maybe
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L864[12:40:05] <Kilobyte> no time
L865[12:40:55] <Sangar> Kilobyte, well, it
has a ticket. other than that, depends a lot on when i finish the
1.8 port/rewrite or how often i need a break from that :P or when
someone else finally gets impatient enough to add it :>
L866[12:41:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
uhmm
L867[12:41:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: would
make for some pretty cool stuff
L868[12:41:25] <ShadowKatStudios> why is
there a giant tick in the water?
L869[12:41:40] <Kilobyte> then we just
need a proper shell
L870[12:41:43] <Kilobyte> and we are
set
L871[12:41:46] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios,
because it like swimming?
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L873[12:41:53] <Sangar> *likes
L874[12:43:21] <Kilobyte> Sangar: if we
ever get a proper unix like shell i think we should have a
PROMPT_UPDATE_INTERVAL env var that when set tells the shell to
rerender the prompt
L875[12:43:48] <Kilobyte> so ppl can put
like, updating time into it
L876[12:44:14] <Sangar> to update while
they update?
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L878[12:45:23] <Kilobyte> Sangar: no,
current time
L879[12:45:34] <Kilobyte> and tell it:
update prompt every minute
L880[12:45:41] <Kilobyte> so it keeps
displaying correct time
L881[12:45:43] <Sangar> oic
L882[12:46:27] <Kilobyte> because thats
why i consider current time in prompt mostly useless
L883[12:46:41] <Kilobyte> if you go away
for a while its not accurate anymore
L884[12:46:58] <Kilobyte> i know of no
shell which supports that, not even mighty zsh
L885[12:47:08] <Sangar> let's just fork
openos and make betteros. judging by besh it'll be a smashing
success :X
L886[12:47:11] <Kilobyte> maybe it does
though
L887[12:47:20] <Kilobyte> Sangar: besh...
is nah
L888[12:47:22] <Sangar> beos? :X
L889[12:47:24] <Kilobyte> too buggy
L890[12:47:28] <Sangar> no shit
L891[12:47:44] <Kilobyte> i am not having
the time to fix that issue though at this point
L892[12:48:00] <Kilobyte> Sangar: also,
maybe eventually we can get llvm bytecode support \o/
L893[12:48:19] <Sangar> how do you
mean?
L894[12:48:23] <Kilobyte> and since you
can generate that stuff from just about any major
programmign/scripting language...
L895[12:48:40] <Sangar> custom arch or
what?
L896[12:48:44] <Kilobyte> yeah
L897[12:48:53] <Sangar> :D
L898[12:49:05] <Kilobyte> and it is still
relatively high level, so stuff like "call function x" is
perserved in it
L899[12:49:12] <Kilobyte> instead of a jmp
instruction
L900[12:49:22] <Kilobyte> you can compile
llvm bytecode to JS for example
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L902[12:50:11] <Sangar> how does it handle
datatypes / structs? because i think that's currently one of the
biggest hurdles for low-level archs, passing around
tables/maps
L903[12:50:15] <Kilobyte> you can get it
from c/c++ (clang, gcc-llvm), rust (rustc), ruby (rubinius) to name
a few
L904[12:50:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar: not sure
tbh
L905[12:50:41] <Kilobyte> also, the llvm
runtime can work both with and without garbage collector
L906[12:51:05] <Kilobyte> depending on
language you compiled it from
L907[12:51:21] <Kilobyte> c/c++/rust will
go without, ruby etc will go with
L908[12:52:45] <Kilobyte> Sangar: so yeah,
we'll have to see, also how it goes with interaction with
components etc
L909[12:52:54] <Sangar> mhm
L910[12:52:57] <Kilobyte> might need some
helper functions
L911[12:53:36] <Kilobyte> Sangar: llvm is
low level enough to work with actual RAM, and it can even include
x68 code (that would obviously have to be disabled)
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L913[12:53:58] <Kilobyte> basicly clang
compiles c to llvm and then llvm to machine code
L915[12:55:49] <Sangar> yeah, that much i
was aware of
L916[12:55:57] <Kilobyte> maybe that helps
you a bit
L917[12:56:11] <Sangar> regarding
structs?
L918[12:56:35] <Sangar> oh god
L919[12:56:54] <Kilobyte> yeah
L920[12:57:04] <Sangar> i think i'll leave
that pleasure to someone else tbh >_>
L921[12:57:08] <ShadowKatStudios> I
crashed morrowind :D
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L924[12:59:05] <Kilobyte> Sangar: yeah,
its pretty complex stuff, but should be doable
L925[12:59:12] <Kilobyte> if you have time
to waste
L926[12:59:14] <Kilobyte> :P
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L928[13:04:26] <Sangar> not *that* much
:P
L929[13:09:16] <dangranos> i think senior
might replace soniex at "local idiot" position
L930[13:09:46] <dangranos>
*"SeniorFight"
L931[13:15:39] <dangranos> > latest NON
Dev 1.4.4a
L932[13:15:41] <dangranos> meh
L933[13:15:47] <dangranos> rly?
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L936[13:20:56] <Sangar> better? or what
did you mean? :P
L937[13:21:30] <Sangar> oh, he wrote
L938[13:21:34] <Sangar> that's what you
meant
L939[13:23:35] <Sangar> i'm not sure he
understands what 'rekt' means
L940[13:24:45] <SKS|Morrowind> so, I think
the steam overlay has a better windowing system than Windows.
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L943[13:31:45] <dangranos> SKS, :D
L944[13:31:58] <dangranos> Sangar, what
does it mean?
L945[13:32:35] <Sangar> not "you
answered all my questions"
L946[13:33:12] <SKS|Morrowind> Hai
dangranos
L947[13:33:20] <SKS|Morrowind> Just
playing Morrowind, as you may have guessed
L948[13:33:30] <SKS|Morrowind> Was an
awesome score at EB Games, $8
L949[13:37:01] <Kilobyte> Sangar: what do
you expect
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L952[13:40:50] <SKS|Morrowind> Whoa, just
imagine, once upon a time (2002) these would be amazing
graphics
L953[13:40:57] <SKS|Morrowind> now they
look shit, but that isn't the point
L954[13:41:48] <SKS|Morrowind> Aww yeah,
max settings, 60FPS
L955[13:42:36] <Sangar> i remember when
myst looked "realistic" :X
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L957[13:43:17] <SKS|Morrowind_> And then I
realised closing the game would kill my IRC session
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L959[13:45:14] <SKS|Morrowind_> Ah,
good.
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L961[13:46:21] <SKS|Morrowind> So
apparently hardware accelerated 3D audio is a thing.
L962[13:48:13] <Ender> my left hand has
cesed up :/
L963[13:51:54] <Kilobyte> Sangar: just
looked at moonscript again, and apart from fact that it uses some
very weird things, it doesn't look too bad. used to not like it at
all
L964[13:52:18] <Kilobyte> might be
interesting to use for OC
L965[13:52:48] <Sangar> can't say my
knowledge about it exceeds "awareness" :P
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L967[13:54:28] <Kilobyte> Sangar: its
pretty much a mix of coffeescript, ruby and python
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L970[14:01:36] <Kilobyte> is there some
kind of standardized way on OC to bundle multiple files together in
OC?
L971[14:01:55] <Sangar> just put them in
one file?
L972[14:02:28] <SKS|Morrowind> uhm
L973[14:02:37] <SKS|Morrowind> gamax92
wrote a tar program
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L975[14:05:53] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i
intentionally wanna split them again afterwards, also lupa also
looks interesting
L976[14:06:30] <Kilobyte> appeals
especially as it has many similar semantics as scala and seems to
be partially type checked
L977[14:06:52] <Sangar> oh?
L978[14:07:46] <SKS|Morrowind> I read that
as "poorly type checked" seemed like it would be fun to
abuse
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L980[14:09:58] <Kilobyte> SKS|Morrowind:
compile time type checked i mean
L981[14:10:14] <Sangar> brb
L982[14:12:41] <Kilobyte> i might end up
writing a small compiler thing for OC
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L984[14:15:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh hey,
the steam overlay lets me tab out properly \o/
L985[14:16:04] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Praise
GabeN
L986[14:16:23] <Kilobyte> although, hmm i
think i'd stick with moonscript as its more mature
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L988[14:27:46] <SKS|Morrowind> Know what's
great?
L989[14:27:52] <SKS|Morrowind> Not having
flash installed.
L990[14:27:58] <Kilobyte> xD
L991[14:28:04] <Kilobyte> less
exploits!
L992[14:28:11] <SKS|Morrowind> less
ads
L993[14:28:18] <SKS|Morrowind> less memory
usage
L994[14:28:22] <Kilobyte> yep
L995[14:28:24] <SKS|Morrowind> less CPU
hogging
L996[14:28:48] <Kilobyte> although, with
ads, there are many ad blockers
L997[14:29:00] <Kilobyte> and with
exploits, noscript ftw
L998[14:29:10] <SKS|Morrowind> (I mean,
seriously, it's a vector renderer on really simple shapes, what the
hell)
L999[14:29:25] <SKS|Morrowind> I use
adblock plus for firefox, but the steam browser has no flash
:D
L1000[14:33:09] <SKS|Morrowind> yes, yes,
yes, yes and yes.
L1001[14:33:22] <SKS|Morrowind> :D
Shinsekai Yori thread
L1002[14:33:47] <SKS|Morrowind> D: Maria
nooo
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L1005[14:38:44] <SKS|Morrowind> Damnit,
I'm gonna end up racking up hours in morrowind by getting
distracted and browsing 4chan for hours
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L1010[14:40:21] <Vexatos> o/
L1011[14:40:36] <ShadowKatStudios>
\o
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L1016[15:03:44] <Zequan> Any tcl wizards
here?
L1017[15:17:25] <Vexatos> tcl?
L1018[15:19:28] <Zequan> Tool Command
Language
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L1035[16:47:38] <Vexatos> Kasen, are they
charging?
L1036[16:47:55] <Kasen> eh,
possibly
L1037[16:48:04] <Kasen> they're fully
charged and turned off, but yeah, they're next to a charger
L1038[16:48:26] <Kasen> i haven't seen
them sparkle before, so i didn't think of that
L1039[16:48:39] <Kasen> then agian, OC
just updated on this pack actually
L1040[16:48:41] <Kasen> again*
L1041[16:49:17] <Kasen> thanks
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L1053[17:36:52] <g> So the new drones are
supposed to have a programmed eeprom right?
L1054[17:36:56] <g> How do you get
started on doing that?
L1055[17:37:28] <TabletCube> insert the
eeprom into a running computer
L1056[17:37:44] <g> into where?
L1057[17:37:57] <TabletCube> eeprom
slot
L1058[17:38:02] <g> but the bios is
there?
L1059[17:38:24] <g> I guess that's why it
has to not be running
L1060[17:38:27] <TabletCube> it's safe to
replace it after boot iirc
L1061[17:38:35] <Vexatos> BIOS is
the
L1062[17:38:38] <Vexatos> only for
booting*
L1064[17:38:49] <g> yeah, that's seemed
to have worked
L1065[17:39:01] <g> so I guess it just
works like a floppy?
L1066[17:39:17] <TabletCube> it's a
component
L1067[17:39:22] <g> alright
L1068[17:39:41] <TabletCube> There may or
may not be a flash utility present on the computer
L1069[17:39:58] <TabletCube> Depends on
when the OS was installed
L1070[17:40:13] <g> before the
update
L1071[17:40:15] <g> so I don't see
one
L1072[17:42:05] <g> I don't really get
how an eeprom works
L1074[17:42:10] <g> it just stores a
single byte array?
L1075[17:42:56] <TabletCube> yes
L1076[17:43:12] <g> alright.. so now
what?
L1077[17:43:13] <TabletCube> For lua, it
stores lua code for example
L1078[17:43:37] <g> oh, I see
L1079[17:43:47] <g> so you'd.. make a lua
bios and .set() some lua code?
L1081[17:44:05] <Vexatos> see
bios.lua
L1082[17:44:16] <Vexatos> that's a file
like it could be flashed onto an eeprom
L1083[17:44:38] <g> ah, I see
L1084[17:44:47] <g> okay, that makes
sense
L1085[17:45:46] <g> so do I need to make
a lua bios first?
L1086[17:45:51] <g> or just use a
standard eeprom
L1087[17:46:33] <g> any chance we could
have flash on oppm?
L1088[17:48:28] <Vexatos> g: Just
re-install OpenOS
L1089[17:48:33] <Vexatos> like, get the
OpenOS floppy
L1090[17:48:35] <Vexatos> and
re-install
L1091[17:48:58] <Negi> It won't overwrite
files that don't already exist, afaik..
L1092[17:51:57] <g> copied it from a
floppy, thanks
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L1096[18:11:57] <g> Vexatos, so what's
the drone api?
L1097[18:12:03] <g> should I code
dive?
L1098[18:13:44] <Kubuxu> .jenkins
L1099[18:13:52] <Magik6k> .p
L1100[18:13:52] <^v> Ping reply from
Magik6k 0.34s
L1101[18:14:02] <Magik6k> ci.cil.li
L1102[18:14:06] <Magik6k> Kubuxu, ^
L1103[18:14:07] <EnderBot2> Latest
builds:
ICBMComponent: #21
|
OpenLights1.7: #18 |
OpenComputersDev: #334 |
OpenPrinter: #79 |
OpenComputers: #25 |
OpenLights: #20 |
OpenGlasses: #44 |
OpenPrinter1.7: #102
L1104[18:15:32] <Kubuxu> Sangar: Would it
be possible to make executable only version of ROM. I need it for
encrption purposes.
L1105[18:16:17] <Sangar> Kubuxu,
eeprom.makeReadonly() ?
L1106[18:16:27] *
g scratches head at drones
L1107[18:16:36] <Kubuxu> Sangar: Problem
is it should be without read.
L1108[18:16:57] <Kubuxu> As with read you
can extract private keys.
L1109[18:17:04] <Sangar> ah... uh, then
not really, no. because the kernel has the same ways of accessing
components as the sandbox
L1110[18:17:05] <Magik6k> loaded and
executed in machine.lua I guess
L1111[18:17:21] <Sangar> but you can just
wrap component access in your bios?
L1112[18:18:01] <Kubuxu> Sangar: Could
work. Especially if I encrypt private key.
L1113[18:18:29] <g> I don't see docs on
drone api
L1114[18:18:34] <g> so I guess I'll have
to dive into the code
L1115[18:18:50] <Sangar> g yeah, haven't
gotten around to add that to the wiki yet
L1116[18:18:51] <Kubuxu> c = {}
L1117[18:18:54] <Kubuxu> sorry
L1118[18:19:20] <Sangar> actually, i
have? maybe? someone anyway :X
L1120[18:19:28] <Sangar> not fully
up-to-date tho
L1121[18:19:34] <Magik6k> Sangar, maybe
some feature to lock the EEPROM in case, so it can't be
removed(computer.LockEEPROM ?)
L1122[18:20:02] <g> ooh, I see
L1123[18:20:04] <g> offsets
L1124[18:20:21] <Kubuxu> Magik6k: It
won't help in my case. Or will it?
L1125[18:20:21] <Sangar> Magik6k, nah. if
anything extending the rights management stuff (there's an open
issue for that)
L1126[18:20:28] <dangranos> bye
L1127[18:20:36] <Kubuxu> bye..
L1128[18:21:03] <dangranos> why the
dots?
L1129[18:21:17] <Kubuxu> I don't know.
Just a habbit...
L1130[18:21:21] <dangranos> okay...
L1131[18:21:22] <Negi> dangranos: I think
that was meant to be a single dot.
L1132[18:21:30] <dangranos> maybe..
L1133[18:21:34] <dangranos> bye..
L1134[18:21:43] <Magik6k> Kubuxu, It
could help as you might then add some security chechs on bios level
and.. ohwait yo wouldn't be able to put KEY eeprom
L1135[18:21:49] <Negi> Oh no you sound
all depressey now. D:
L1136[18:22:13] <Kubuxu> It is random
number of dots depending how fast my fingers are.
L1137[18:22:16] <dangranos> i am sure you
could add wrapper to components api to disable eeprom reading
L1138[18:22:26] <dangranos> i am going to
sleep...
L1139[18:22:36] <dangranos> now thats
depressey...
L1140[18:22:37] <Magik6k> hmm..
Smartcards?
L1141[18:22:47] <Kubuxu> Problem is that
I wanted use EEPROM as Smartcards.
L1142[18:23:38] <Negi> Kubuxu: Smartcards
?
L1143[18:24:24] <Kubuxu> Negi: Card
containing cryptographic unit alloing secure
encrypting/sighning.
L1144[18:24:31] <Negi> Oh
L1145[18:24:35] <Magik6k> > This would
actually fit current situation as smart card would be kind of
ultra-lowend tables just like uC is ultra-low computer, wouldn't
it?
L1146[18:24:51] <Magik6k> *tablets
L1147[18:25:02] <Kubuxu> One can't
extract private key form Smartcard.
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L1149[18:25:21] <Kubuxu> This is why you
can use 4-digit pin and it is still secure.
L1150[18:25:46] <Kubuxu> As smartcard
will block itself after X wrong inputs.
L1151[18:26:39] <g> Maybe what we need is
smartcards then? :P
L1152[18:26:40] <Kubuxu> Simplest
smartcard is Visa/MasterCard with Chip but you can't use it fo
custom encryption, just for transaction sighning.
L1153[18:27:07] <Kubuxu> g: I took it
into consideration.
L1154[18:27:57] <Kubuxu> But I would have
to code: smartcard, smartcard reader( it would be best with digits
keyboard)
L1155[18:28:10] <Kubuxu> I might
try.
L1156[18:28:29] *
dangranos pokes one of Computronics dev
L1157[18:28:31] <Kubuxu> Will steal
Vexato's implementation of RSA>
L1158[18:28:38] <Magik6k> Kubuxu, btw.
I'm finishing MPT IDE work, and github oauth finally works
L1159[18:28:45] <Kubuxu> Oh Yeah.
L1160[18:28:54] <dangranos> Kubuxu,
should it be "Vexatos'"?
L1161[18:29:04] *
Kubuxu sends all <3 to Magik6k.
L1162[18:29:12] <Kubuxu> dangranos: It
should be.
L1163[18:29:22] <Negi> Kubuxu: Maybe you
could reuse one of the current slots ? idk if that's possible if
you want to set it to another purpose, but...Yeah Idk.
L1164[18:29:22] <Kubuxu> Will steal
Vexatos' implementation of RSA>
L1165[18:29:42] <dangranos> :O
L1166[18:29:48] <dangranos> i can into
english
L1167[18:29:49] <Vexatos>
Whathaveidone
L1168[18:29:59] <Negi> Vexatos: A
Monster.
L1169[18:30:04] <Kubuxu> Negi: Just cutom
block with in world keyboard.
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L1171[18:30:34] <Kubuxu>
s/cutom/custom/
L1172[18:30:34] <Kibibyte> <Kubuxu>
Negi: Just custom block with in world keyboard.
L1173[18:31:38] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, don't
steal my things D:
L1174[18:31:47] <Vexatos> xD
L1175[18:32:04] <Kubuxu> Shhhh. Noone
will ever notice.
L1176[18:32:07] <Kubuxu> For sure.
L1177[18:32:16] <Vexatos> But it took us
sooo long to make it
L1178[18:32:25] <Vexatos> why are you
stealing the thing we made now D:
L1179[18:32:31] <Kubuxu> Remember who
helped you.
L1180[18:32:43] <Vexatos> (Mind the
*we*)
L1181[18:33:03] <Kubuxu> We will mind
we.
L1182[18:33:12] <Vexatos> "Reading
comprehension fail" ~ Sangar 2014
L1183[18:33:20] <Kubuxu> Shhhh.
L1184[18:33:37] <gamax92> Hey
Sangar?
L1185[18:34:32] <Negi> I totally don't
have exams tomorrow.
L1186[18:34:33] <gamax92> Is there
something to extend or implement to make a custom EEProm
L1187[18:34:56] <Negi> And I totally
shouldn't not be here.
L1188[18:35:10] <Kubuxu> Negi: What
exams?
L1189[18:35:22] <gamax92> else I'm just
gonna stare at decompiled scala
L1190[18:35:33] <Negi> French,
Kubuxu.
L1191[18:35:44] <Negi> Mid-year french
pseudo-exams.
L1192[18:35:44] <gamax92> Negi: speek to
us in franch
L1193[18:35:47] <Kubuxu> gamax92: Just to
not look at scala.
L1194[18:35:51] <gamax92> yes
L1195[18:35:55] <Negi> Pourquoi tu
voudrais que je fasse ça, gamax92 ?
L1196[18:36:05] <Kubuxu> Yeah, in
franch
L1197[18:36:52] <Negi> Franch, the french
from the ranch. *k no, that was bs*
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L1199[18:37:07] <gamax92> Pwootage!
L1200[18:37:08] <gamax92> :D
L1201[18:37:44] <gamax92> Negi: Pourquoi
pas?
L1202[18:38:15] <Pwootage>
ShadowKatStudios: I just saw it from last night, but I've said it
before and I'll say it again: People who dislike IDEs don't
understand how to use them fully (not that writing code in VIM is
bad all the time)
L1203[18:38:15] <Pwootage> gamax92:
L1204[18:38:15] <Pwootage> Hello!
L1205[18:38:18] <Negi> gamax92: The
difference between you and I is that I am an actual native french
and that I don't use a translator.
L1206[18:38:30] <gamax92> Negi: And I
don't care :)
L1207[18:38:42] <Negi> Plus french is a
pretty upsetting language \o
L1208[18:38:45] <Vexatos> je ne parle pas
français, Hurr hurr
L1209[18:38:55] <Vexatos> I am so glad I
chose to learn latin
L1211[18:39:22] *
Vexatos linguam Latinam pauxissime dicere potest
L1212[18:39:32] <Negi> 90% of french
population : "Me talk not english" with the most awful
accent.
L1213[18:40:06] <Pwootage> gamax92: did
you hear I got pacyak working?
L1214[18:40:12] <gamax92> Nope
L1216[18:40:47] <Pwootage> it can also
update and even uninstall itself
L1217[18:40:51] <Negi> We totally need a
BF architecture.
L1218[18:41:15] <Magik6k> Wut's
pacyak?
L1219[18:41:34] <gamax92> Negi: how would
that work
L1220[18:41:44] <Pwootage> Says right in
that image, the OC package yak :P
L1221[18:41:48] <Pwootage> it's a package
manager for OC
L1222[18:42:00] <Negi> gamax92: Idek, but
having a BF architecture seems like lots of painful fun.
L1223[18:42:07] <Pwootage> it's
list-based and the package is defined inside the package instead of
centrally
L1224[18:42:20] <Magik6k> yay, so OC will
now have 3.5 package managers :D
L1225[18:43:10] <Pwootage> OPPM, PacYak,
and which other two?
L1226[18:43:17] <gamax92> mpt
L1227[18:43:25] <Pwootage> right
L1228[18:44:11] <Magik6k> I may add
compat with ur manager to mpt, should be simple in bost cases(and
MPT is anyways bloatware :p)
L1229[18:44:36] <gamax92> mpt-get install
oppm
L1230[18:44:43] <Pwootage> My manager
requires symlinks but other than that is a pretty easy json-based
format
L1231[18:44:55] <Negi> oppm install
pacyak
L1232[18:45:13] <Negi> Pwootage: Sucks
you don't use the actual Pacman syntax.
L1233[18:45:17] <Magik6k> gamax92, mpt
-Sy oppm pacyak OpenOS
L1234[18:45:26] <gamax92> O_o
L1235[18:45:27] <gamax92> eww
L1236[18:45:33] <gamax92> dafak is
that
L1237[18:45:40] <Magik6k> pacman
syntax
L1238[18:45:46] <gamax92> eww no oppm
kthxs
L1239[18:45:50] <Pwootage> Negi: tbh my
current impl is the most basic hack ever (for the CLI)
L1240[18:45:54] <Magik6k> may add mpt-get
with apt syntax
L1241[18:46:17] <Negi> Pacman syntax
makes sounds.
L1242[18:46:24] <Negi> pacman -Syu
L1243[18:46:26] <Negi> SYUUUU
L1244[18:46:29] <Pwootage>
computer.beep
L1245[18:46:33] <Negi> That's how I
remember those.
L1246[18:46:41] <gamax92> Pwootage: how
do beep from java?
L1247[18:47:02] <Magik6k> gamax92, print
the bell character?
L1248[18:47:08] <gamax92> ... no
....
L1249[18:47:25] <gamax92> i mean in
oc
L1250[18:47:34] <Magik6k> ~w
computer.beep
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L1253[18:47:55] <gamax92> Magik6k: i did
say java.
L1254[18:48:00] <gamax92> i love how
nobody listens
L1255[18:48:03] <Pwootage> apparently the
beep isn't a thing :(
L1256[18:48:04] <Magik6k> <gamax92>
i mean in oc
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L1259[18:48:15] <gamax92> Pwootage:
PacketSender.sendSound(machine.host().world(),
machine.host().xPosition(), machine.host().yPosition(),
machine.host().zPosition(), "-");
L1260[18:48:28] <Pwootage> gamax92: well
that *would* work
L1261[18:48:33] <gamax92> this seems to
work.
L1262[18:49:05] <Pwootage> probably need
to use the volume-enabled version, though, not sure how far away
that would be audible
L1263[18:49:23] <gamax92> Pwootage: oh, i
just stole that from Machine.scala
L1264[18:50:11] <Negi> That's mean
D:
L1265[18:50:24] <Pwootage> poor
Machine.scala
L1266[18:50:35] <SkySom> Probably mugged
it.
L1267[18:50:42] <SkySom> Maybe stabbed
it?
L1268[18:51:12] <gamax92> wait is the
EEProm just a component?
L1269[18:51:18] <Pwootage> uh, yeah
L1270[18:51:29] <Pwootage> everything in
OC is a component
L1271[18:51:31] <gamax92> oh ... well
then i can just make a component with the same functions.
L1272[18:51:43] <Negi> Wait.
L1273[18:51:46] <Negi> Everyone is
fucking
L1274[18:51:49] <Negi> Stressing me
up.
L1275[18:51:54] <Negi> The exam is in one
week.
L1276[18:51:54] <gamax92> Negi: :o
L1277[18:51:55] *
g isn't fucking
L1278[18:51:56] <gamax92> sexy
L1279[18:53:31] <Pwootage> train ride is
pretty much over, back in 30-45 min
L1280[18:53:44] <Pwootage> probably
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L1282[18:54:59] <gamax92> Should I do
items like how OC does them?
L1283[18:55:08] <gamax92> oc has a
separate file for the Environment itself
L1284[18:55:12] <gamax92> i include it in
the driver
L1285[18:55:25] <Kilobyte> how do i open
file x in current working dir?
L1286[18:55:37] <Kilobyte> can i just do
io.open("x")
L1287[18:56:01] <gamax92> Kilobyte: shell
resolve!
L1288[18:56:03] <Magik6k> ~w io
L1290[18:56:06] <gamax92> or maybe that
works.
L1291[18:56:39] <Kilobyte> Magik6k: in
regular lua, sure
L1292[18:56:51] <Kilobyte> but in oc last
time i checked it didnt
L1293[18:57:01] <Magik6k> Kilobyte, I
konw, I'm looking into OC code now ;p
L1294[18:57:38] <g> so mpt has all the
standard package manager functions
L1295[18:57:41] <g> except for some kind
of list?
L1296[18:57:54] <Magik6k> g,
sortkinda
L1297[18:58:06] <gamax92> brb testing
something
L1298[18:58:17] <gamax92> ~w
shell.resolve WHAT KIND OF POTATO DO YOU THINK I AM
L1300[18:58:19] <gamax92> :D
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L1303[18:58:46] <Magik6k> Kilobyte, io
doesn't open files in PWD from what I see there:
L1305[18:58:58] <gamax92> [11:50:34]
[Server thread/WARN] [OpenComputers]: Failed initializing
computer.
L1306[18:58:58] <gamax92>
java.lang.NullPointerException
L1307[18:58:58] <gamax92> at
li.cil.oc.server.PacketSender$.sendSound(PacketSender.scala:494)
~[PacketSender$.class:?]
L1308[18:59:01] <Magik6k> ~w
filesystem
L1310[18:59:08] <gamax92> okay, i guess
not to use beep
L1311[18:59:16] <Kilobyte> Magik6k: gah,
thought so
L1312[19:05:19] <gamax92> wait ...
L1313[19:05:23] <gamax92> how did it npe
on "pb.writeInt(world.provider.dimensionId)"
L1314[19:05:41] <ShadowKatStudios>
Finally wrote a browsing page for my story, yay
L1315[19:07:21] <gamax92> maybe im
outderted
L1317[19:10:22] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios:
It's actually dangerous.
L1318[19:10:38] <Negi> You can go into
negative IDs and empty ones D:
L1319[19:10:51] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yep.
L1320[19:10:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Try
-1
L1321[19:11:02] <Negi> I saw
L1322[19:11:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I need
ways to hide easter eggs, anyway.
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L1324[19:13:06] <_Ron> Question.
L1325[19:13:22] <gamax92> Answer.
L1326[19:13:23] <_Ron> I'm trying to get
a RAID drive working, and quite frankly I'm not sure how
L1327[19:13:25] <_Ron> lol
L1328[19:13:31] <gamax92> put raid to
computer
L1329[19:13:33] <gamax92> put hdd's in
raid
L1330[19:13:34] <gamax92> bam
L1331[19:13:35] <Ender> _Ron, do you have
3 hdds in it?
L1332[19:13:40] <_Ron> Yeah...
L1333[19:13:50] <_Ron> I'm trying to get
multiple PCs to connect to it.
L1334[19:14:05] <Ender> that wont
work
L1335[19:14:09] <_Ron> And when I don't
use network switches, the computers all use each other's keyboards
and components :/
L1336[19:14:18] <gamax92> _Ron: ahh yes
.... that
L1337[19:14:25] <gamax92> I should remind
Sangar to fix
L1338[19:14:27] <Ender> yeah, the raid
isnt a network storeage in itself
L1339[19:14:32] <_Ron> Hrmm
L1340[19:14:59] <_Ron> And when I use
network switches, it doesn't show the RAID drive. Because network
switches don't carry over components for obvious reasons lol
L1341[19:16:01] <_Ron> So is there any
way that I could get a sort of 'file server' working?
L1342[19:17:09] <SkySom> Write a file
server, that can upload and download files?
L1343[19:17:21] <Negi> Was about to say
that.
L1344[19:17:21] <_Ron> Hmm.
L1345[19:17:28] <_Ron> Alright,
thanks.
L1346[19:17:31] <Magik6k> _Ron, write
some ftp kind of stuff, wthier on bare network catd or using
network API from network floppy
L1347[19:17:40] <_Ron> Okay,
thanks.
L1348[19:17:43] <gamax92> there are
already networked filesystem programs ...
L1349[19:17:49] <_Ron> Really?
L1350[19:18:03] <SkySom> SSSSHHHH
L1351[19:18:03] <Negi> Look on the forums
and on OPPM.
L1352[19:18:08] <SkySom> Make him write
his own :D
L1353[19:18:13] <gamax92> SkySom: don't
be an ass
L1355[19:18:39] <Negi>
s/ass/asscouch/
L1356[19:18:39] <Kibibyte>
<gamax92> SkySom: don't be an asscouch
L1357[19:18:42] <_Ron> Alright, I gotta
go now.
L1358[19:18:46] <_Ron> Thanks!
L1359[19:18:47] <Magik6k> ocnetfs :
Connect a OCNetFS server as a local filesystem
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L1361[19:18:54] <SkySom> An
asscouch?
L1362[19:19:02] <Negi> Yeah.
L1363[19:19:03] <gamax92> Magik6k: ehh
... thats for real life to oc
L1364[19:19:21] <Negi> Mix an insult with
a standard word to make it mild, SkySom.
L1365[19:19:33] <Magik6k> gamax92,
shh
L1366[19:19:44] <SkySom> Hmmmm... I
see.
L1367[19:20:46] *
gamax92 slaps Magik6k
L1368[19:20:46] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L1369[19:21:09] <gamax92> Negi: You
fuckberry
L1370[19:21:13] <gamax92> did i do it
correctly?
L1371[19:21:19] <Negi> Yep.
L1372[19:21:22] <gamax92> :D
L1373[19:21:54] <Negi> Damn
buttpickles.
L1374[19:22:12] <CompanionCube> Negi, you
tickle-brain
L1375[19:22:16] <CompanionCube>
</shakespeare>
L1376[19:22:28] <gamax92> Stop being such
a teasenugget
L1377[19:22:37] <gamax92> You are making
me hornyzap
L1378[19:22:42] <gamax92> :P
L1379[19:22:57] <gamax92> okay I'll
stop
L1380[19:23:33] <gamax92> D: beep card
must make music
L1381[19:23:57] <g> song on oppm does
that doesn't it?
L1383[19:24:10] <Negi> Why the flick is
there a beep card ?
L1384[19:24:42] <gamax92> Negi: it can do
multiple beeps :D
L1385[19:25:03] <Magik6k> multicore
buzzer?
L1386[19:25:32] <Negi> Ah. Computronics I
bet ?
L1387[19:25:51] <gamax92> yes
L1388[19:26:04] <gamax92>
component.beep.beep({[500]=1,[400]=1})
L1389[19:28:00] <gamax92> hmm i could
port Sangar's midi player to i
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L1394[19:35:30] <gamax92> hai
Pwootage
L1395[19:35:36] <g> aw, oclights'
external monitors get cleared when someone joins the server
L1396[19:35:50] <gamax92> gdude:
._.
L1397[19:36:10] <gamax92> that ...
shouldn't happen?
L1398[19:36:35] <g> gamax92, but it
did
L1400[19:36:52] <g> I had 5 dots plotted
on it
L1401[19:36:57] <g> someone joined and it
went black
L1402[19:38:27] <Kasen> i'll reconnect
again
L1403[19:38:44] <Kasen> crashed
L1404[19:39:04] <Kasen> i blame
schematica for that
L1406[19:39:11] <gamax92> ?_?
L1407[19:39:19] <Kasen> it errors every
frame on the main menu
L1408[19:39:27] <Kasen> it crashed on the
main menu
L1409[19:39:39] *
Kasen goes tot he log
L1410[19:40:19] <g> yeah, I may remove
that
L1411[19:40:26] <g> nobody's used it,
including the person that wanted it
L1412[19:40:31] <gamax92> lol
L1413[19:41:01] <Kasen>
moreplayermodels
L1414[19:41:17] <g> shouldn't cause a
crash on the main menu
L1415[19:41:24] <g> road actually figured
it out, we should ask him
L1416[19:41:35] <Kasen> well, it
did
L1417[19:41:43] <g> well, send me the log
or something
L1419[19:42:02] <Kasen> anyway,
connecting - make sure something's on the monitor
L1420[19:42:03] <g> gamax92: yep, he
joined, it's blank again
L1421[19:42:24] <gamax92> gah .-.
L1422[19:42:31] <g> No errors.
L1423[19:42:33] <gamax92> this is 1.7.10
right?
L1425[19:42:39] *
gamax92 blames dsAway
L1426[19:42:44] <g> Updated/installed it
today
L1427[19:42:45] <gamax92> he did the
networking port for that.
L1428[19:43:08] <g> I assume the gpu is
fast enough to like
L1429[19:43:17] <g> throw up an image on
within a reasonable amount of time, right?
L1430[19:43:22] <gamax92> yeah
L1431[19:43:30] <g> alright
L1432[19:43:35] <g> yeah, that's what we
were planning to use it for
L1433[19:43:38] <g> status images for
various things
L1434[19:43:42] <gamax92> lol ...
L1435[19:44:10] <Kasen> after i draw
pretty patterns
L1436[19:44:18] <g> yeah.. :P
L1437[19:44:26] <Kasen> once i figure out
how it works because i see no docs
L1438[19:44:37] <gamax92> can i join your
server to test stuff?
L1439[19:44:47] <Pwootage> I wonder if I
get to write ARM today... :D
L1440[19:44:50] <g> if you don't mind
installing the modpack
L1441[19:44:52] <g> it's pretty big
>.>
L1442[19:44:54] <gamax92> thats
fine
L1443[19:45:05] <Kasen> pretty big as in
it bundles jython :P
L1444[19:45:08] <gamax92> thats
fine
L1445[19:45:12] <g> noticed it to
you
L1446[19:45:17] <gamax92> I noticed
L1448[19:46:09] <g> ah, I drawed a
line
L1450[19:48:01] <gamax92> alright
downloading
L1451[19:48:09] <gamax92> oh yeah ... i
should add component docs.
L1452[19:49:06] <gamax92> this is uhh ...
one of the worst looking launchers I've seen btw :P
L1453[19:49:17] <g> blame sk8
L1455[19:49:37] <gamax92> its using the
java metal theme :|
L1456[19:49:37] <Kasen> it works
(mostly), at least...
L1457[19:50:09] <Kasen> not for me it
isn't
L1458[19:50:29] <g> yeah, it uses the
native theme on windows
L1459[19:50:37] <g> I don't think anyone
who plays isn't using windows
L1460[19:50:45] <g> pretty sure gamax is
on linux masterrace
L1461[19:50:47] <gamax92> Well let me be
the first
L1462[19:50:56] <Pwootage> linux
>
L1463[19:50:59] <Kasen> ah
L1464[19:51:28] <Kasen> it should still
be using the system look and feel by default though, shouldn't
it?
L1465[19:51:43] <gamax92> oh, well blame
java on linux for not properly detecting gtk :P
L1466[19:53:47] <Pwootage> uh, it
probably won't use the system look-n-feel unless you tell it
to
L1467[19:56:01] <Kasen> i'm talking
specifically about this launcher
L1468[19:56:05] <Kasen> like, i thought
it did tell it to
L1469[19:57:18] *
Pwootage shrugs
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L1471[20:08:14] <Pwootage> looks like I
need to ask my professor if I can use ARM/OC, and if not, if I can
use pwisa
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L1473[20:12:06] <CompanionCube> Pwootage,
pwisa?
L1475[20:35:45] <ShadowKatStudios> I
sense a ban coming for me in #computercraft, if nothing else, an
argument. Come watch :D
L1476[20:36:07] <SkySom> Oh dis gonna be
good.
L1477[20:36:58] <SkySom> Is there
anything we've missed ShadowKatStudios ?
L1478[20:37:01] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
what's happening?
L1479[20:37:36] <SkySom> Yeah. Can we
have like logs leading up to this point?
L1480[20:37:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I
think I'm gettingnthem
L1481[20:40:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Fizzle
:/
L1482[20:41:05] <SkySom> So what made it
seem like something was gonna explode?
L1483[20:41:16] <SkySom> Also what is the
"issue" with the OC community?
L1484[20:41:30] <SkySom> (Forgive me, new
to the community)
L1485[20:41:34] <ShadowKatStudios>
[07:34] (@Cranium) competition is fine, ShadowKatStudios, but the
oc community hasn't exactly been welcoming
L1486[20:41:44] <Ender> eh?
L1487[20:41:50] <Dashkal> O.o
L1488[20:41:50] <Caitlyn> Yeah.. I'm
wondering about that one myself
L1489[20:41:50] <Stary2001>
hahahaha
L1490[20:41:52] <Stary2001> here we
go
L1491[20:42:00] <SkySom> It seems as if
you've been pretty good since I've been here?
L1492[20:42:12] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
mind asking them to elaborate?
L1493[20:42:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Funny,
yes, considering CC people were assholish when OC started
out?
L1494[20:42:26] <Caitlyn> The only issue
I know of is people who want to come here and bitch about how OC is
too hard cause CC was too busy holding their hands to teach them
anything...
L1495[20:42:34] <ShadowKatStudios>
"CC clone! Kill the witch with fire!"
L1496[20:43:06] <SkySom> So it's like
those people who complain about stuff being too hard?
L1497[20:43:08] <SkySom> Really?
L1498[20:43:09] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
they could be refering to the other since-mia founder of this
channel from ~7 months ago
L1499[20:43:32] <ShadowKatStudios>
Kenny?
L1500[20:43:47] <ShadowKatStudios> He's
not even NS'd any more.
L1501[20:44:04] <Ender> yes, that person
who i will continue to not name
L1502[20:44:30] <ShadowKatStudios>
Anyway, want to know how this started?
L1503[20:44:35] <Ender> sure
L1504[20:44:43] <SkySom> No, we've just
asked for logs :D
L1505[20:44:54] <ShadowKatStudios>
[07:11] (z1haze) hello, im trying reallly hard to detect movement
events and block break events for turtles so that more server will
start allowing full use of computercraft so it doesnt bypass
protections
L1506[20:45:03] <ShadowKatStudios> I
don't keep logs on my tablet
L1507[20:45:04] <SkySom> Man I wish
sarcasm worked better across IRC
L1509[20:45:23] <Caitlyn> logs.
L1510[20:45:40] <SkySom> Thank you
much
L1511[20:45:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Thank
you, Caitlyn.
L1512[20:45:57] <Caitlyn> np.
L1513[20:46:24] <Caitlyn> 600mb download,
3 times I've hit !500mb and "Network Error"
L1514[20:46:32] <Caitlyn> I think some
douche server admin is trolling me
L1515[20:46:36] <Caitlyn> ~500*
L1516[20:47:13] <SkySom> Heh. You really
were poking the bear there Shadow
L1517[20:47:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Poking
the AmandaC, significantly more dangerous.
L1518[20:48:04] <Caitlyn> »» Temia would
honestly be tempted to fork OC to make a version more in line with
CC's principles, herself. After all, changing the direction is what
forking's all about <.< dafuq
L1519[20:48:24] <SkySom> CC's
principles?
L1520[20:48:27] <SkySom> lol what?
L1521[20:48:27] <Caitlyn> CC's
principles?
L1522[20:48:31] <Caitlyn> lolol
L1523[20:48:32] <Stary2001> so
L1524[20:48:37] <Stary2001> it'll be
closed source
L1525[20:48:38] <ShadowKatStudios> OC
deals with CC's fuckedupness though..?
L1526[20:48:45] <Ender> dirt cheap
computers and shitty uniform design?
L1527[20:48:56] <Kasen> i haven't touched
CC in a long time - they were cheap as fuck to make, right?
L1528[20:48:59] <Kasen> tlike, stone and
glass or something?
L1529[20:49:06] <Kasen> like*
L1530[20:49:12] <ShadowKatStudios> stone,
glass, and 1 resstone
L1531[20:49:13] <Caitlyn> yeah 7 stone
one glas one redstone iirc
L1532[20:49:14] <Ender> stone, glass and
1 redstone
L1533[20:49:20] <SkySom> Yeah still cheap
as fuck
L1534[20:49:26] <Ender> fucking
ninjas....
L1535[20:49:31] <Kasen> lol
L1537[20:49:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Geez
ender, I'm using a touchscreen here
L1538[20:49:59] <CompanionCube> anyone on
sky broadband here?
L1539[20:50:34] <Kasen> still found
no-one to potentially brick their router for you? :P
L1540[20:50:38] <ShadowKatStudios> The
crusader has returned!
L1541[20:50:40] <Ender> CompanionCube,
not today
L1542[20:51:19] *
ShadowKatStudios continues laughing at the logs
L1543[20:51:22] <CompanionCube> Ender, do
you has any spare sky hubs lying around?
L1544[20:51:40] <Ender> CompanionCube,
nope, i have spare virgin hubs
L1545[20:51:45] <CompanionCube> ah,
neat
L1546[20:51:48] <CompanionCube> those are
nice
L1547[20:52:01] <Ender> eh, they have
problems
L1548[20:52:05] <CompanionCube> yep
L1549[20:52:18] <Ender> well, the ones we
have in the attick
L1550[20:52:22] <Ender> s/k//
L1551[20:52:22] <Kibibyte> <Ender>
well, the ones we have in the attic
L1552[20:52:22] <CompanionCube> doesn't
the web interface tend to crap out if you don't reboot it
often
L1553[20:52:46] <Ender> CompanionCube, it
works for about a day, then stops. wifi is also patchy
L1554[20:53:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Ender:
Care to append "What, exactly, is wrong with the OC
community?" to the topic?
L1555[20:54:04] <Ender> eh, i'd prefer
not to
L1556[20:54:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
ask sangar to later then.
L1557[20:54:31] <Kasen> drama
L1558[20:54:38] <Kasen> just what i came
for
L1559[20:54:53] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
doubt he'd say anything different
L1560[20:55:01] <ShadowKatStudios> My cat
is dreaming :D
L1561[20:55:12] *
Ender pets DeanIsGone
L1562[20:55:19] <ShadowKatStudios> It's
worth a shot.
L1563[20:55:23] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, can has full logs?
L1564[20:55:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
._.
L1565[20:55:39] <Ender> CompanionCube,
hold on
L1567[20:55:49] <Caitlyn> CompanionCube,
I posted pretty much *the* log from start to finish. :P
L1568[20:55:55] <ShadowKatStudios>
ninjas
L1569[20:55:59] <CompanionCube> ah
L1571[20:57:19] <Caitlyn> Ender, the last
20 liens of yours are after the end of mine
L1572[20:57:22] <Caitlyn> :P
L1573[20:57:37] <Ender> s/li/ali
L1574[20:57:37] <Kibibyte>
<Caitlyn> Ender, the last 20 aliens of yours are after the
end of mine
L1575[20:57:42] <Ender> :P
L1576[20:58:02] <Caitlyn> Hey... lysdexia
roskc
L1577[20:58:11] <Caitlyn> k
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L1580[20:59:15] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
mind asking cranium if he'd elaborate more on what's supposedly
wrong with this community
L1581[20:59:16] <Ender> ?
L1582[20:59:21] <ShadowKatStudios>
odd
L1583[20:59:28] <ShadowKatStudios> it
seems
L1584[20:59:41] <ShadowKatStudios> people
in #cc are indoctrinated to hate us
L1585[20:59:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I
blame cloudy.
L1586[20:59:55] <SkySom> I think they're
just trying to demonize the enemy
L1587[20:59:56] <Caitlyn> <-- is in
#cc
L1588[21:00:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
anyway, yeah, I'll ask
L1589[21:00:09] <Ender> Caitlyn, but
you're also here
L1590[21:00:15] *
Ender hugs Caitlyn
L1591[21:00:17] <ShadowKatStudios>
youknowwhatImean
L1592[21:00:20] <Caitlyn> <-- #CC was
the reason I started ideling Esper.
L1593[21:00:49] <Caitlyn> Then OC came
alng and I wasl ike fuck yeah abandon ship
L1594[21:00:54] <Caitlyn>
s/alng/along/
L1595[21:00:54] <Kibibyte>
<Caitlyn> Then OC came along and I wasl ike fuck yeah abandon
ship
L1596[21:01:01] <Inari> yeah OC seems a
werid topic for CC, its that "omg CC clone mod that sucks and
just steals all the rejected suggestiosnf ro CC"
L1597[21:01:02] <Inari> or so
L1598[21:01:03] <Caitlyn> s/l ike/
like/
L1599[21:01:03] <Kibibyte>
<Caitlyn> Then OC came along and I was like fuck yeah abandon
ship
L1601[21:01:48] <Ender> will add OETF
back when it's working to some degree
L1602[21:01:55] <ShadowKatStudios> heeere
goes
L1603[21:01:58] *
CompanionCube pokes DeanIsGone
L1604[21:02:10] <Ender> CompanionCube,
he's got other stuff on at the moment
L1605[21:02:12] <CompanionCube> ik
L1606[21:02:20] *
CompanionCube sets up popcorn vendor
L1607[21:02:22] <CompanionCube> anyone
want some
L1608[21:02:29] <ShadowKatStudios>
Everyone, to #cc! The question has been asked!
L1609[21:02:37] <skyem123> er?
L1610[21:02:41] <Caitlyn> I'm gonna go
play KOTOR II lost content.
L1611[21:02:49] <Ender> or not, dont
flood the channel with OC users
L1612[21:02:56] <ShadowKatStudios>
*waits*
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L1615[21:03:08] <Ender> o/
CyberTurd
L1616[21:03:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Is
this our national sport or something?
L1617[21:03:44] <Ender> ?
L1618[21:04:09] <Ender> what? poking
holes in #CC ops' logic?
L1619[21:04:15] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yep.
L1620[21:04:22] <Ender> could be
L1621[21:04:42] <Caitlyn> I love how it
even auto updates...
L1622[21:05:15] <Ender> will watch from
logs
L1623[21:06:27] <Ender> Caitlyn, doesnt
seem to auto update for me
L1624[21:06:36] <Ender> or do you mean on
refresh?
L1626[21:06:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Do I
win by default?
L1627[21:06:40] <Caitlyn> does for
me..
L1628[21:06:50] <Caitlyn> no, it auto
updates..
L1629[21:07:06] <Ender> oh, that one
does
L1630[21:07:12] <Ender> the first link
didnt
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L1632[21:07:27] <Caitlyn> Ahh thought I'd
linked the tail
L1633[21:07:38] <ShadowKatStudios> :o
Gopher?
L1634[21:07:41] <Ender> o/ Gopher
L1635[21:07:44] <ShadowKatStudios> No
way!
L1636[21:07:47] <Gopher> oahi guys
L1637[21:07:48] <Ender> havent seen you
in ages
L1638[21:08:02] <Gopher> yah, been
feeding non-minecraft addictions XD
L1639[21:08:16] <Stary2001> :o its
Gopher
L1640[21:08:30] <ShadowKatStudios>
Haven't seen you in 210 days, gopher
L1641[21:08:32] <Caitlyn> Ugh..... KOTR
II fuxxorz my windows cause it wont run in a window, and 1280*1024
is as high as it goes
L1642[21:08:37] <Gopher> has it been that
long? lol
L1643[21:08:37] <Stary2001> fun
L1644[21:08:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Stats
say so.
L1645[21:08:51] <Gopher> would've figured
170, tops XD
L1646[21:09:12] <Stary2001> lo
L1647[21:09:12] <Stary2001> l
L1648[21:09:14] <Stary2001> Caitlyn:
dxwnd!
L1649[21:09:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Look
at the stats in the topic
L1651[21:09:23] <Ender> .stats
L1653[21:09:28] <Gopher> what's new in
the world of OpenComputers? And by new, I mean within the,
apparently 210 day long, window I've been away XD
L1654[21:09:31] <Stary2001> xD
L1655[21:09:33] <Caitlyn> Stary2001,
wat
L1656[21:09:34] <Caitlyn> WAT
L1657[21:09:35] <Caitlyn> WAAAT?
L1658[21:09:42] <Stary2001> dll injection
magic
L1659[21:09:53] <ShadowKatStudios>
Drones
L1660[21:09:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
Tablets
L1661[21:09:57] *
g stretches, hugs gamax92
L1662[21:10:01] <Ender> Gopher, in short,
drones, raid blocks, awesomnetss
L1663[21:10:09] <Kasen> l-lewd!
L1664[21:10:10] <gamax92> g I am lag
spiking
L1665[21:10:16] <gamax92> :P
L1666[21:10:41] <Stary2001> :p
L1667[21:10:42] <ShadowKatStudios> looks
like I'm not getting a response fro- oooh?
L1668[21:10:45] <Caitlyn> Stary2001, too
bad I can't fscking download it
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L1670[21:10:49] <Stary2001> Caitlyn:
;l
L1671[21:11:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Nope,
no response from Cranium
L1672[21:11:06] <ShadowKatStudios>
fucker
L1673[21:11:12] <g> gamax92: it's a
fairly heavy pack >.<
L1674[21:11:14] <Gopher> drones, you say?
'splain, or link
L1675[21:11:16] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
keep poking
L1676[21:11:18] <Gopher> or do nothign
and make me google
L1677[21:11:21] <Gopher> your call
XD
L1678[21:11:25] <Ender> Gopher, hang
on
L1679[21:11:27] <gamax92> :O
GOPHER!
L1680[21:11:29] <gamax92> HAI
L1681[21:11:47] <Caitlyn> "Thank you
for downloading DxWnd"
L1682[21:11:48] <Caitlyn> no
download
L1683[21:11:55] <ShadowKatStudios>
Gopher: Intros are over, fix GML :P
L1684[21:11:56] <Caitlyn> eff you too
sourceforge
L1685[21:12:10] <Gopher> lol
L1686[21:12:19] <Gopher> that.. is
unlikely to occur soon lol
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L1688[21:12:24] <gamax92> its been like
... forever
L1689[21:12:34] <Gopher> fix as in
finish, or fix as in "adapt to changes in oc?" 'cause I
don't even remember the state I left it in XD
L1690[21:12:37] <ShadowKatStudios>
gamax92: 210 days
L1691[21:12:42] <gamax92> forever
L1692[21:13:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Are
you kidding me?
L1693[21:13:33] <g> gamax92: so one
thing, if we wanted to use json.. then..
L1694[21:13:40] <ShadowKatStudios>
Battery at 10%
L1695[21:13:42] <gamax92> gdude: I
dunno
L1696[21:13:42] <g> assume eeprom since
that's what we're thinking atm
L1697[21:13:50] <gamax92> Ask Pwootage
who got json working in oc
L1698[21:13:56] <samis> ShadowKatStudios,
something odd happened with sky just
L1699[21:13:56] *
g pokes Pwootage
L1700[21:13:57] <Pwootage> Uh
L1701[21:14:07] <samis> traceroute to
moo.esper.net (212.47.227.96), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
L1702[21:14:08] <samis> 1 SkyRouter.Home
(192.168.0.1) 0.469 ms 0.805 ms 0.802 ms
L1703[21:14:08] <samis> 2
5adfaee1.bb.sky.com (90.223.174.225) 1052.888 ms 1054.859 ms
1056.034 ms
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L1707[21:14:49] <g> the main problem I
have is that like
L1708[21:14:51] <g> a library is
great
L1709[21:14:53] <g> seriously
L1711[21:14:57] <g> drones have no
storage
L1712[21:15:45] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
tell him you just want to know why the CC community hates the OC
one
L1713[21:16:12] <Ender> or a civil
argument
L1714[21:16:30] <asie> wait
L1715[21:16:31] <asie> who?
L1716[21:16:43] <Ender> asie, cranium in
#cc
L1717[21:16:59] <ShadowKatStudios> asie,
we're trying to figure out why the CC community hates us so
much
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L1721[21:19:21] <Caitlyn> Stary2001, had
to nuke chrome from orbit, and download...
L1722[21:19:29] <Stary2001> o_O wat
L1723[21:19:52] <ShadowKatStudios>
firefox
L1724[21:20:19] <Caitlyn> and effing
HexChat crashed again
L1725[21:20:22] <Caitlyn> wtf
L1726[21:20:25] <Ender> lol
L1727[21:20:49] <Caitlyn> Note to self DO
NOT minimize hexchat.
L1728[21:21:02] <Ender> Caitlyn, minimize
hexchat
L1729[21:21:11] <Caitlyn> or not.
L1730[21:21:21] <Ender> do
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L1732[21:21:43] <Caitlyn> I don't feel
like crashing again
L1733[21:21:46] <Caitlyn> kthx
L1734[21:21:50] <ShadowKatStudios>
so
L1735[21:21:53] <Ender> Caitlyn, but
:(
L1736[21:21:58] <Caitlyn> No.
L1737[21:22:03] <ShadowKatStudios> 1
semi-valid argument presented
L1738[21:22:07] <Ender> fine
L1739[21:22:08] <Pwootage> Aw, dsAway did
not make it back before my OS class started, so I can't demo the
fact that it's working... hopefully he'll still let me do it
:3
L1740[21:22:11] <ShadowKatStudios>
elitism
L1741[21:22:24] *
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L1743[21:22:33] <Caitlyn> Well, of OC
wasn't so much better.....
L1744[21:22:55] <ShadowKatStudios> That's
their argument against us
L1745[21:23:10] <Pwootage> The arch
...archetecture, I guess... makes OC really really cool
L1746[21:24:39] <Gopher> ah. So drones
are lyqyd's quadracoptors, with full lua programming and the other
usual capabilities++ of OC variations. Nice.
L1747[21:26:09] <Gopher> will have to
play with those later
L1748[21:26:22] <ShadowKatStudios>
Argument against us #2: greg
L1749[21:26:32] <Gopher> huh?
L1750[21:27:17] <Ender> well, compared to
other mods OC is normal, comapred with CC however i can see why it
looks similar to gregtech
L1751[21:27:26] <Pwootage> drones are
limited to 4k of EEPROM lua, though
L1752[21:27:30] <ShadowKatStudios>
Indeed.
L1753[21:27:30] <Pwootage> (at least
afaik)
L1754[21:27:51] <Gopher> Sorry, I didn't
mean that to sound negative...?
L1755[21:28:05] <Ender> ?
L1756[21:28:09] <Pwootage> OC's crafting
is complex but AE kinda solves that problem for me
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L1758[21:28:22] <Gopher> I feel like I've
triggered some kind of defensive response, but perhaps I'm just
missing some context lol
L1759[21:28:47] <Gopher> ah, right, I HAD
the context and was just ignoring it <_< ignore me
L1760[21:29:26] <Gopher> so still no
peace made on that front, then? Sigh.
L1761[21:30:05] <Dashkal> Indeed.
Multi-step crafting annoys the crap out of me. AE made that go
away.
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L1763[21:30:26] <Dashkal> No I do not
want to make a transisitor to make a microchip to make an alu to
make a cpu...
L1764[21:30:29] <Gopher> When last I
played with OC, I was using the hardcore recipes XD
L1765[21:30:45] <Dashkal> It's not hard,
it's just tedious as hell. So AE is a usability requirement for
me.
L1766[21:31:37] <Dashkal> If I ever do
run a pack without autocrafting, I'll have to look into a way to
flatten the recipes.
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L1768[21:34:45] <Kasen> i agree entirely
with that
L1769[21:35:28] <Kasen> i liked the fact
that AE1 was OP as hell, because crafting 50 levels deep of items
wasn't fun, just tedious, so it got that part out of the way
early
L1770[21:35:47] <Dashkal> Heh,
autocrafting is not one of the things that qualifies a mod as
"OP" to my sense of balance.
L1771[21:36:02] *
Caitlyn slaps Stary2001 around with a download of
dxwnd
L1772[21:36:02] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L1773[21:36:02] *
Stary2001 slaps Caitlyn's bottom and grins cheekily
L1774[21:36:02] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L1775[21:36:07] <Caitlyn> ha
L1776[21:36:16] <Kasen> Dashkal, OP
compared to AE2
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L1778[21:36:23] <Kasen> they took a
massive nerf-bat to it
L1779[21:36:33] <Dashkal> Erm, wtf? AE2
is significantly more powerful
L1780[21:36:33] <Kasen> now AE2 is
somewhat tedious
L1781[21:36:35] <Stary2001>
goddamnit
L1782[21:36:35] <SkySom> Place down
blocks throw in recipes
L1783[21:36:36] <Stary2001> xD
L1784[21:36:41] <Dashkal> We playing the
same mod?
L1785[21:36:46] <SkySom> And AE2 ain't
tedious.
L1786[21:36:59] <Dashkal> And I have my
channels still enabled...
L1787[21:37:04] <Dashkal> You can turn
that off
L1788[21:37:06] <Pwootage> AE2 is a bit
more obnoxious to set up autocrafting but I like it more overall, I
think
L1789[21:37:29] <Kasen> i like it, but it
actually requires me to care about it now
L1790[21:37:49] <Dashkal> Well yes. It
became more gameplay and less "I'm going to trivialize
storage".
L1791[21:38:03] <Dashkal> But the
capabilities of 2 are greater. It can simply do more things.
L1792[21:38:15] <ShadowKatStudios>
damnit, tablet died
L1793[21:38:19] <g> AE2 is
fantastic
L1794[21:38:19] <Kasen> storage is about
as tedious as crafting imo, so that's probably where we
differ
L1795[21:38:31] <Kasen> i'm not calling
AE2 by any means
L1796[21:38:33] <g> there's stuff it
lacks over ae1 for sure but
L1797[21:39:01] <Kasen> i'm just not used
to it yet, and keep getting slapped in the face by the enrfs
L1798[21:39:02] <Dashkal> g: Any
examples? I never found a use case that AE1 met that AE2 did
not.
L1799[21:39:13] <Dashkal> Serious
question. I don't see it and would prefer to not be wrong.
L1800[21:39:16] <gamax92> gdude: oh and
yes I'll look into that clearing bug and add triangles and circles
back
L1801[21:39:24] <Kasen> \o/
L1803[21:40:23] <ShadowKatStudios> I
really hope this is being logged, this is fun
L1804[21:40:48] <g> it will forever be in
my bouncer logs that nobody reads
L1805[21:41:25] <Dashkal> I think we're
defining nerf differently then. The only new mechanic is channels,
and you can just turn that off. I find the new crafting system
better, honestly. Since it decoupled the crafting table crafting
from the logic that drives crafting.
L1806[21:41:46] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
it is, i'm watching it through them
L1807[21:41:56] <gamax92> watching
who
L1808[21:42:04] <Dashkal> In other words,
things that require both table recipes and external processing
recipes work more sanely.
L1809[21:43:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Ender:
Enjoying it?
L1810[21:43:28] <Ender> yeah
L1811[21:43:37] <Dashkal> I should get a
fallacy checklist going...
L1812[21:43:41] <Dashkal> But, meh,
work.
L1813[21:43:48] <Dashkal> Also work. They
expect me to do it or something.
L1814[21:45:49] <Ender> gg
ShadowKatStudios
L1815[21:45:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Bam.
Banned for poking the AmandaC
L1816[21:46:04] <ShadowKatStudios>
Shoulda seen that coming, I guess.
L1818[21:46:09] <Inari> i actualyl find
the AE2 autocrafting nicer
L1820[21:46:46] <skyem123> .p
L1821[21:46:46] <^v> Ping reply from
skyem123 0.22s
L1822[21:46:54] <ShadowKatStudios>
*yawn*
L1823[21:47:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
I should probably go to bed.
L1824[21:47:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Or I
could play Skyrim
L1825[21:47:14] <ShadowKatStudios> What's
the date?
L1826[21:47:21] <ShadowKatStudios> It is
the 14th
L1827[21:47:26] <Gopher> depends on where
you are.
L1828[21:47:31] <Ender> still 13th
here
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L1830[21:54:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm,
well, that wasted hours I could have spent writing
L1831[21:54:54] <ShadowKatStudios>
>.<
L1832[21:55:00] <Ender> damn
L1833[21:55:07] <Ender> oh well, continue
writing
L1834[21:55:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Fuck
that
L1835[21:55:13] *
Ender cracks the whip
L1836[21:55:18] <ShadowKatStudios> it's
daylight
L1837[21:55:22] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm a
free man
L1838[21:55:48] <Ender> you are number
6
L1840[21:56:19] <gamax92> Sangar should
randomly implement different bsod styles for specific days
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L1842[21:56:39] <gamax92> like its its an
amiga anniversary, do a guru meditation style bsod
L1843[21:56:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Just
pick one at random.
L1844[21:56:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Hey,
could be fun.
L1845[21:56:57] <SuPeRMiNoR2> or maybe,
different color of bsod. gsod, for example
L1846[21:57:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Time
to modify the Lua BIOS.
L1847[21:57:16] <gamax92> for saint
patricks day
L1848[21:57:23] <Pwootage> psod scariest
sod
L1849[21:57:30] <gamax92> white text on
red
L1850[21:57:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Kernel
panic, guru meditation, BSOD, GSOD, computer-on-fire-SOD
L1851[21:57:49] <ShadowKatStudios> The
list goes on...
L1852[21:58:04] <SuPeRMiNoR2> sod
that
L1853[21:58:07] <Pwootage> been so long
since i've seen a linux kernel panic
L1854[21:58:11] <Pwootage> they're not so
common anymore
L1855[21:58:27] <ShadowKatStudios> I've
caused a few.
L1856[21:58:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
the haiku debugging screen
L1857[21:59:56] <gamax92>
┏━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┓
L1858[21:59:56] <gamax92>
┃ Software Failure. Press left
mouse button to continue. ┃
L1859[21:59:56] <gamax92>
┃ Guru Meditation
#00000025.65045048 ┃
L1860[21:59:56] <gamax92>
┗━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┛
L1861[22:00:02] <Ender> ....
L1862[22:00:17] <gamax92>
ShadowKatStudios: that one right?
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L1864[22:00:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Have
you seen the BeOS/haiku debugger, gamax92?
L1865[22:01:04] <gamax92> no?
L1866[22:01:06] <Kodos|Zzz> Needs more
"Keyboard not detected. Press any key to continue"
L1867[22:01:13] <gamax92> lol yes
L1868[22:01:32] <ShadowKatStudios> tl;dr
it lets you edit RAM, which is nice
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L1871[22:02:16] <lperkins2> So, what
energy API should I use to get the most number of available sources
of energy?
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L1873[22:02:23] <Kodos|Zzz> RF
L1874[22:02:26] <Kodos|Zzz> Easily
L1875[22:02:37] <Pwootage> RF or UE
L1876[22:02:41] <Kodos|Zzz> UE is
bad
L1877[22:02:45] <Kodos|Zzz> YOu'll hate
yourself later
L1878[22:02:48] <Pwootage> For writing a
mode I'd recommend RF
L1879[22:02:50] <Kodos|Zzz> Because they
change so much so often
L1880[22:02:58] <Pwootage> then
installing mekanism and using that for conversion
L1881[22:03:08] <Pwootage>
s/mod/mode/
L1882[22:03:09] <Kibibyte>
<Pwootage> For writing a modee I'd recommend RF
L1883[22:03:12] <lperkins2> So there
isn't one that many mods can dump to?
L1884[22:03:15] <Pwootage> ..........I
give up
L1885[22:03:18] <gamax92> Pwootage:
okay.
L1886[22:03:22] <Caitlyn>
s/modee/mod/
L1887[22:03:22] <Kibibyte>
<Pwootage> For writing a mod I'd recommend RF
L1888[22:03:24] <SkySom> RF for
sure.
L1889[22:03:27] <g> any mods I've used
that rely on UE have been really really buggy
L1890[22:03:38] <Pwootage> Mekanism seems
to work pretty well
L1891[22:03:45] <g> Mekanism doesn't rely
on UE
L1892[22:03:47] <lperkins2> Is it better
to simply include several/
L1893[22:03:47] <g> does it?
L1894[22:03:50] <SkySom> Didn't Mekanism
remove UE?
L1895[22:03:51] <g> it likes my RF just
fine
L1896[22:04:13] <Pwootage> Mekanism still
hase Universal Cable, at least
L1897[22:04:39] *
lperkins2 wonders if I should make an abstract class that can
accept several sources of power for all his stuff
L1898[22:05:19] <SkySom> You can...
L1899[22:05:28] <SkySom> Though I'd only
do one that make sense.
L1900[22:05:57] <lperkins2> Well,
yeah,
L1901[22:06:25] <lperkins2> I tend to use
IC2 as my main power backbone, but I'm thinking I may switch to RF,
but I haven't compared how they work yet.
L1902[22:06:27] <SkySom> Though really RF
is the best one unless you really have a use case for somethign
else.
L1903[22:06:40] <Pwootage> I really like
RF
L1904[22:06:47] <gamax92> I like RF as
well
L1905[22:06:48] <lperkins2> I like IC2s
idea for actually calculating volts and amps, but I haven't checked
if they have it working yet.
L1906[22:07:10] <Caitlyn> Electrical Age
is pretty neat...
L1907[22:07:11] <gamax92> I like RP2's
electricity ;)
L1908[22:07:17] <Caitlyn> but meh RF is
where it's at
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L1910[22:07:40] <SkySom> I think
everything I have outside of IC can be powered by RF.
L1911[22:07:45] <Pwootage> RF is just
nice n' simple to use both programatically and in-game
L1912[22:08:00] <Pwootage> I power all my
IC2 stuff with mekanism universal cables and RF
L1913[22:08:06] <SkySom> And heck I'm
even looking at Pneumaticcraft to go from RF to EU
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L1916[22:12:53] <Kasen> before i go ahead
and write this, does anyone happen to have a script to dig out an
area?
L1917[22:14:27] <ShadowKatStudios>
gamax92: I like that gear.
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L1919[22:20:10] <Magik6k> ~w shell
L1921[22:21:09] <Kodos|Zzz> kasen I think
there is one already
L1922[22:21:13] <Kodos|Zzz> Loot disk
called 'dig'
L1923[22:21:26] <Kasen> that doesn't dso
what i want
L1924[22:21:37] <Kasen> that digs out a
pit from sky to bedrock
L1925[22:22:03] <Kasen> a square one at
that
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L1928[22:27:34] <g> this is a page with a
login to github button
L1930[22:27:46] <Magik6k> yes it is
L1931[22:27:55] <g> you may want to
like
L1932[22:27:57] <Magik6k> after that
there's rest of it ;p
L1933[22:28:01] <g> have some
content
L1934[22:28:08] <Caitlyn> Should I have
more then 0 repos?
L1935[22:28:10] <g> so people don't think
you're taking over accounts
L1937[22:28:17] <Magik6k> 'beta'
L1938[22:28:19] <Pwootage> ds84182:
herro
L1939[22:28:40] *
ds84182 slaps the shit out of ShadowKatStudios
L1940[22:28:40] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L1941[22:28:41] <Magik6k> g, It's
impossible to take account over using OAuth
L1942[22:28:44] <ShadowKatStudios>
Watching people make fun of me is oddly satisfying.
L1943[22:28:46] <g> yeah, I know
L1944[22:29:03] <ds84182>
ShadowKatStudios: it better be.
L1945[22:29:11] <g> ah, so this is for
adding packages to mpt
L1947[22:29:19] <ds84182> Pwootage:
hi
L1948[22:29:38] <g> ds84182: openlights
networking? :P
L1949[22:30:07] *
ShadowKatStudios whacks ds84182 over the head with a copy of
OpenOS, a knife and a water bottle
L1950[22:30:24] <Pwootage> ds84182: I
wont be using your thing for my class, but I will still be writing
an OS for it <3
L1951[22:30:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
watching.
L1952[22:31:08] <ds84182> ok
L1953[22:31:39] <ShadowKatStudios>
22:31:10] <Gopher> you won't regret it, but you will both rue
and lament it
L1954[22:31:40] <ShadowKatStudios>
Hi.
L1955[22:31:46] <Pwootage> probably
L1956[22:32:23] <ds84182>
ShadowKatStudios: ...
L1957[22:32:25] ***
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L1958[22:32:26] <ShadowKatStudios>
TabletCube: I am very interested to see how your experiments with
another bear in #ComputerCraft turn out
L1959[22:32:39] <ShadowKatStudios>
Ah.
L1960[22:32:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Damn
smart bears.
L1961[22:33:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Too
late, ds84182
L1962[22:33:01] <ds84182> Ok. You know
what
L1963[22:33:04] <ShadowKatStudios>
Muahahaha
L1964[22:33:06] <ds84182> I'm telling
Sangar.
L1965[22:33:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Give
it a few minutes, I'll get bored :D
L1966[22:35:03] <Inari> telling Sangar
what
L1967[22:35:03] <ShadowKatStudios>
ds84182: Care to give
http://xkcd.com/386/ to AmandaC, and
tell her to ban me specifically, but not the host because I'm not
the only one on this bouncer?
L1968[22:35:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Thank
you, good sir. *tips hat*
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L1970[22:36:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh,
it's just you're the one that banned me, AmandaC, figured you'd be
as good as any to make it permenant
L1971[22:37:12] <ShadowKatStudios>
Sheesh, jokes, man.
L1972[22:37:47] <ds84182> .
L1973[22:37:51] <ShadowKatStudios> I was
implying I was right anyway, and yes, I'm incredibly
stubborn.
L1975[22:38:18] *
ds84182 slaps ShadowKatStudios
L1976[22:38:18] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L1977[22:38:24] <ds84182> what the hell
is wrong with you
L1978[22:38:30] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
bored.
L1979[22:38:35] <ShadowKatStudios> A
bored me is dangerous.
L1980[22:40:06] <ds84182>
ShadowKatStudios: hack esper and get ircop
L1981[22:40:12] <ds84182> have
fun~!
L1982[22:41:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
ds84182: I have lost interest now, I would appreciate it if you
would attempt to resolve the ban situation - I always connect with
the same realname, but Dean might be unhappy if I accidentally got
them banned from #cc
L1983[22:41:26] <ShadowKatStudios>
Anyway, I'm off to play Morrowind
L1984[22:41:29] <ds84182> k
L1985[22:42:24] <ShadowKatStudios> *yawn*
Either that, watch more Durarara or go to bed.
L1986[22:42:30] <ShadowKatStudios> it is
almost 10 AM
L1987[22:43:06] <Sangar> wat
L1988[22:43:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I
poked the AmandaC
L1989[22:43:35] <ShadowKatStudios> The
AmandaC caused death.
L1990[22:43:37] <Sangar> why would you do
that?
L1991[22:43:40] <ds84182> T_T
L1993[22:43:44] <Caitlyn> for teh
lulz
L1994[22:43:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Fun
times.
L1995[22:43:52] <Sangar> ...
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L1997[22:43:54] <ShadowKatStudios>
Anyway, later.
L1998[22:44:17] <ds84182> See, this is
where 75% of the problem comes from
L1999[22:44:21] <Sangar> i will not read
all of that
L2000[22:44:21] <ds84182> people who do
this shit
L2001[22:44:23] <ds84182> all the damn
time
L2002[22:44:41] <gamax92> hey gdude you
there?
L2004[22:44:53] <gamax92> Can you test
that bug with the normal monitor
L2005[22:45:03] <g> not atm
L2006[22:45:06] <Kodos|Zzz> How the fuck
are we not welcoming
L2007[22:45:10] <g> I'm tired and sick,
but rakiru is on there
L2008[22:45:17] <Kodos|Zzz> She's the
fucking cunt who keeps banning us when we're trying to play
nicely
L2009[22:45:23] <gamax92> alright
L2010[22:45:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Ohai
Kodos|Zzz
L2011[22:45:28] <ds84182> Kodos|Zzz:
...
L2012[22:45:36] <Sangar> Kodos|Zzz,
language
L2013[22:45:37] <gamax92> Kodos|Zzz:
...
L2014[22:45:39] <ds84182> Can we just
shut the fuck up and talk about kittens.
L2015[22:45:41] <ShadowKatStudios> You
should have arrived earlier :D
L2017[22:45:55] <ds84182> ( ͡^ ͜ʖ
͡^)
L2018[22:45:56] <Kodos|Zzz> Sangar, sorry
but the outright lies that #computercraft tells about the OC
computer is crap
L2019[22:46:00] <Kodos|Zzz> err
L2020[22:46:01] <ShadowKatStudios> (Since
when did we have a language rule? This isn't #KSPOfficial )
L2021[22:46:02] <Kodos|Zzz>
community
L2022[22:46:13] <Sangar> so... let it
go?
L2023[22:46:25] <ds84182> Kodos|Zzz: but
its the community, the community is not the official
L2024[22:46:31] <Altenius_> OCEmulator
might have to wait a long time... My stupid dad is canceling
internet
L2025[22:46:44] <Inari> Altenius_: why
would you cancel internet
L2026[22:46:45] <ds84182> it's like
saying 95% of americans hate british people
L2027[22:46:54] <ds84182> but the 5% are
trying to set an example
L2028[22:46:57] <Sangar>
ShadowKatStudios, i don't care for cursing, but insulting people to
that degree, meh :P
L2029[22:47:01] <Altenius_> Inari it's
down a lot
L2030[22:47:14] <TabletCube> Altenius_:
upload everything to the interwebs.
L2031[22:47:19] <Altenius_> Inari and the
only isp around here
L2033[22:47:29] <g> how is the OC
community not welcoming
L2034[22:47:29] <Altenius_>
TabletCube
L2035[22:47:34] <ShadowKatStudios>
Sangar: Mmmh, I'd say it's justified.
L2036[22:47:41] <g> the
OC-and-related-teams are frickin' awesome
L2037[22:47:42] <ds84182> no, it is
not.
L2038[22:47:42] <ShadowKatStudios> g: Me
on a bad day
L2039[22:47:46] <Inari> Altenius_: so...
no internet > meh internet?
L2040[22:47:50] <Altenius_> TabletCube,
the OCEmulator source?
L2041[22:47:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Or a
bored day.
L2042[22:47:53] <Kasen> i came here
yesterday - i've had a jolly good time
L2043[22:48:02] <Altenius_> Inari
apparently
L2045[22:48:11] <TabletCube> Altenius_:
Everything you can.
L2046[22:48:25] <Altenius_> TabletCube,
why?
L2047[22:48:39] <TabletCube> Because
going out in style ftw.
L2048[22:49:24] <ShadowKatStudios> yep,
I'm totally losing it.
L2049[22:49:26] <Sangar>
ShadowKatStudios, welp, i'd have to read the logs to get an opinion
of my own, which i cba to :P so i'll just default to civility
L2050[22:49:49] <ShadowKatStudios> This,
my friends, is what happens when I get bored. I lose it. Have fun
dealing with the cleanup.
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L2052[22:51:39] <Pwootage> Hum de
dum
L2053[22:51:52] <Pwootage> Here's hoping
the net isn't flaky in this class today
L2054[22:52:15] <Inari> Altenius_: i cant
even imagine being without internet
L2055[22:53:11] <Pwootage> Try
programming without the internet
L2056[22:53:13] <Pwootage> it's pretty
gross
L2057[22:53:35] <gamax92> To be very
honest, it is just people here going "No CC is shit use OC so
much better" and then people in #computercraft going "No
CC is shit use OC so much better", thats nice and all but it
is their #computercraft channel
L2058[22:54:13] <Pwootage> There's a use
for every tool
L2059[22:54:18] <Pwootage> (except maybe
php)
L2060[22:54:26] <gamax92> or bf
L2061[22:54:37] <Inari> books!
L2062[22:54:39] <gamax92> can someone
find a serious application of bf?
L2063[22:54:41] <TabletCube> or Windows
ME.
L2064[22:54:41] <Pwootage> bf has one
really good use, and that's an easy turing-completeness test
L2065[22:54:45] <gamax92> well ...
L2066[22:54:47] <gamax92> okay then
L2067[22:55:06] <Pwootage> BF is easy to
write so it's easy to prove <xyz> is turing complete if you
can write a BF interpreter with it
L2068[22:55:10] <Sangar> gamax92, i see,
welp. trying to be a missionary for oc on cc's channel seems
unnecessarily provocative :X
L2069[22:55:21] <Dashkal> gamax92: It
wasn't that though. It was 'CC cannot do this thing, but OC
can'
L2070[22:55:29] <Dashkal> A specific
feature CC lacks
L2071[22:55:32] <gamax92> in a broad
sense.
L2072[22:55:34] <Dashkal> And has no
desire to add
L2073[22:55:34] <Pwootage> Sangar: I just
want to say again that holy crap the arcetecture system is
awesome
L2074[22:55:41] <Pwootage> Thanks
<3
L2075[22:55:42] <gamax92> Yes i love
architectures
L2076[22:55:46] <Dashkal> Agreed
L2077[22:55:52] <Sangar> Pwootage, glad
to hear that :)
L2078[22:55:55] <TabletCube> Can someone
find a serious use of Windows ME?
L2079[22:56:00] <Dashkal> Looking forward
to getting back to it on the weekend (coding after a day of coding
for work just doesn't happen...)
L2080[22:56:04] <Sangar> TabletCube,
ranting
L2081[22:56:05] <gamax92> TabletCube:
Yes, to run programs
L2082[22:56:18] <Dashkal> I do need to
get to v2 of the language. The initial prototype proved the
concept, but I took some shortcuts...
L2083[22:56:20] <Pwootage> Dashkal: I
know that feeling sometimes
L2084[22:56:23] <TabletCube> gamax92:
dammit
L2085[22:56:43] <TabletCube> That's
assuming it doesn't crash first though, eh
L2086[22:56:55] <Dashkal> My interpreter
had some nasty bugs. Variables aren't so useful when the
interpreter just up and looses the bindings...
L2087[22:57:13] <gamax92> I've actually
used the 9x family and haven't really gotten it to crash that much
._.
L2088[22:57:36] <gamax92> besides Reader
Rabbit
L2089[22:57:40] <gamax92> which would
crash it a lot.
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L2092[22:59:32] <lperkins2> It seems to
me, as someone who only recently tried OC, that what actually
convinced me to install it and give it a whirl was the attitude of
the users here. I first saw it a while ago and though 'what does it
possibly have that CC lacks'. It's more complex, but that really
doesn't make any difference, it's API is neat, but CC's isn't
exactly bad, all-in-all it doesn't actually have much that it can
do that CC can't, or can't be extended to do. What it doe
L2093[23:01:04] <Dashkal> The reason for
my preference was the extra gameplay it has. That is, the concept
of 'build the tool for the job you want it to do;.
L2094[23:01:16] <Dashkal> The recipes...
not so much a plus (as discussed earlier).
L2095[23:01:20] <Dashkal> But AE dealt
with that.
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L2097[23:02:46] <Sangar> lperkins2, your
blogpost seems to be missing it's end?
L2098[23:03:24] <lperkins2> Which is
that?
L2099[23:03:39] <Sangar> i dunno. it ends
with "What it doe" for me? maybe hexchat just
derped?
L2100[23:03:47] <Dashkal> Same to me
(irssi)
L2101[23:03:51] <Caitlyn> same.
L2102[23:03:58] <lperkins2> Hah, frickin'
pidgin,
L2103[23:04:02] <lperkins2> I really need
a better irc client
L2104[23:04:10] <lperkins2> What it does
have is a friendly community and a fast patch time when you find
bugs (thanks Sangar!). So if you really want to support OC, it
seems to me the best way to do it is to keep being polite and
friendly, attacking the CC folks, or their users, will just prolong
CC's life.
L2105[23:04:44] <Dashkal> You end on an
odd note. Nothing wrong with CC existing forever.
L2106[23:04:49] <Dashkal> Someone will
always actively prefer the magic box.
L2107[23:05:01] <Sangar> ahh. well. i
don't think there's any risk of cc dying anytime soon (and i agree
that's a good thing)
L2108[23:05:03] <Dashkal> OC doesn't (and
in my opinion shouldn't) serve that
L2109[23:05:05] <lperkins2> Heh, aye,
just going to die on my server :)
L2110[23:05:18] <Dashkal> I might install
it to get at the extra integration
L2111[23:05:43] <Dashkal> OCλ first
though.
L2112[23:05:49] *
Dashkal loves typing that out
L2113[23:06:01] <lperkins2> Yeah, I was
actually thinking about that, it might be possible to get the
adapter to allow integration without needing CC installed.
L2114[23:06:33] <gamax92> FakeCC :D
L2115[23:06:35] <Dashkal> Well, one would
have to write something that bundled the CC api, wouldn't they? So
it's avilable for mods that use it. And anything that only loads
the CC integration with CC installed is out of the picture.
L2116[23:06:39] <Sangar> oc was never
meant to 'kill' cc anyway :P it's just serving a niche that wants
more non-all-in-one computers (aka at least me :P)
L2117[23:06:58] <lperkins2> You'd need
the CC api, but then just check if something implements
IPeripheralProvider and act accordingly.
L2118[23:07:17] <lperkins2> Yeah, you'd
want to only load your copy of the CC API if CC itself wasn't
installed.
L2119[23:07:45] <lperkins2> But the whole
point of it would be to only install this bridge mod (I like
FakeCC) if CC isn't going to be installed.
L2120[23:08:21] <gamax92> lperkins2:
FakeCC was an actual thing I was doing before Cloudy yelled at
me
L2121[23:08:26] <lperkins2> And for
copyright purposes, you'd be best to reimplement CC's api from
scratch as a clean-room-rewrite, just happens to use the same
namespace.
L2122[23:08:36] <ShadowKatStudios>
gamax92: He yelled at OC, why did you stop?
L2123[23:08:43] <gamax92> ... me
L2124[23:08:52] <gamax92> this was long
before OC
L2125[23:08:59] <ShadowKatStudios>
ooohhh
L2126[23:09:16] <ShadowKatStudios> right,
I'm still as useless as 30 seconds ago, then
L2127[23:10:01] <gamax92> D:< JAVA
pls
L2128[23:10:02] <gamax92> my cpu
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L2130[23:11:24] <Kasen> oh sorry gamax92,
i was afk - did you want to test the screen?
L2131[23:11:34] <gamax92> Kasen: tested
it me self :P
L2132[23:11:40] <Kasen> ah right
L2133[23:11:42] <gamax92> normal ones
dont break
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L2135[23:13:47] <Kasen> why does the
navigation component have a range? it seems like it would be
trivial to just wrap the movement functions and keep track of
offset from start myself, so i'm trading the ability to have a
constant 0,0 with the ability to go wherever i want
L2136[23:13:52] <Kasen> seems like a big
tradeoff
L2137[23:16:49] <Kodos|Zzz> It has a
range because maps hvae a range
L2138[23:17:04] <Kodos|Zzz> And its
function is based on a map
L2139[23:17:19] <Kasen> what does it
actualyl do in relation to the map, other than centre from
it?
L2140[23:17:21] <Kasen> actually*
L2141[23:17:32] <Kodos|Zzz> Ever use CC's
concept of a GPS?
L2142[23:17:49] <Kasen> if i did, i don't
remember
L2143[23:18:19] <Kodos|Zzz> Well it works
on the basis of knowing where you're/it's at based on the position
of 3 slave computers running GPS on them
L2144[23:18:29] <Kodos|Zzz> THe center of
hte map that you make the nav upgrade hosts the same
function/idea
L2145[23:18:36] <Kasen> oh yeah, i think
i did use that - put them way up in the sky
L2146[23:18:52] <Kodos|Zzz> Once you go
past the range of the map used to make it, it doesn't know
-exactly- how far out you are, just that you're beyond the range of
the map
L2147[23:19:28] <Kasen> it just seems
like a big disadvantage to me, for not much benefit (from just
tracking your movement yourself based on start position)
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L2149[23:22:16] <Dashkal> I tried to use
those, but gave up when it became apparent that you couldn't get
them to start back up on server restart.
L2150[23:22:22] <Dashkal> (The CC
GPS)
L2151[23:22:41] <Kasen> i haven't used CC
in like 2 years
L2152[23:22:42] <gamax92> ... umm
...
L2153[23:22:48] <gamax92> you just put
the gpu stuff in autorun
L2154[23:22:51] <gamax92> bam it starts
back up ...
L2155[23:22:57] <Kasen> i don't play
minecraft very often
L2156[23:23:16] <Kasen> CC GPS, not OC
GPU
L2157[23:23:24] <gamax92> yes i
know
L2158[23:23:31] <gamax92> yes CC can also
run things on computer startup
L2159[23:23:52] <ShadowKatStudios> :o no
way!
L2160[23:23:55] <gamax92> oh i said gpu,
sorry
L2161[23:23:59] <gDroid2002> autorun.lua
or something
L2162[23:24:07] <gamax92> (might be
because im working on fixing gpu stuff P)
L2163[23:24:15] <ShadowKatStudios>
fuckin' shitty CC GUI OSes
L2164[23:24:32] <gamax92> Kasen: oh btw i
added triangles and ovals, there's a new link on github
L2165[23:24:41] <lperkins2> Yes, but even
when the CC computer is set to launch a program at startup, that
doesn't mean it will actually turn on when the map loads
L2166[23:25:05] <gamax92> neither does it
on OC
L2167[23:25:14] <gamax92> OC computers
aren't chunkloaders
L2168[23:25:27] <lperkins2> True, but
when the map loads, if the computer *was* on, it will still be
on.
L2169[23:25:28] <Sangar> it'd be terrible
if they were :X
L2170[23:25:45] <lperkins2> CC if the
computer is on and the chunk unloads, when it reloads the computer
sometimes stays off.
L2171[23:26:02] <lperkins2> I had a
reactor melt down once due to that.
L2172[23:26:16] <lperkins2> The monitor
that was supposed to manage it didn't restart when the map
reloaded.
L2173[23:26:30] <ShadowKatStudios> CC
everyone.
L2174[23:26:32] <ShadowKatStudios>
CC
L2175[23:26:39] <Sangar> oh, and Kasen,
the nav thing is mostly a laziness thing, and to autoconfigure
things, i.e. if you place it anywhere within hte nav upgrade's
range it'll know where it is and be able to orientate itself.
L2176[23:27:15] <Sangar> lperkins2, i'd
assume that to be a bug tho?
L2177[23:27:43] <lperkins2> Maybe, but if
it is it's happened in pretty much every version of CC in the last
several years.
L2178[23:28:00] <Kasen> i'll probably
write a wrapper for it so it can keep track of the coords if it
goes outside the range
L2179[23:28:10] <Kasen> which means the
only requirement it adds is that i place it within the original
range
L2180[23:28:57] <Kasen> which,
considering every robot i have/plan to have will either be forever
sitting in my base, or spawned right enar 0,0 then return there,
should work perfectly
L2181[23:28:59] <Kasen> near*
L2182[23:29:00] <Pwootage> lperkins2:
what kind of reactor, out of curiosity
L2183[23:29:16] <lperkins2> It was an IC2
reactor,
L2184[23:29:25] <Pwootage> gotcha
L2185[23:29:28] <lperkins2> back in the
days of redstone signal to keep them from running.
L2186[23:29:33] <lperkins2> And
redpower2
L2187[23:29:40] <Pwootage> good
time
L2188[23:29:43] <Pwootage> s
L2189[23:29:55] <Kasen> gamax92, awesome,
thanks - i'll get g to update it
L2190[23:30:01] <lperkins2> The turtle
was suppose to monitor for overheat warnings and then send a signal
to shut the thing down.
L2191[23:30:29] <lperkins2> I know the
turtle didn't start because it lived outside the blast shield, so
it survived the experience and was still off when I came to see why
it went boom.
L2192[23:30:36] <Sangar> let me say this
now: i take no responsibility for reactors blowing up due to oc
derping somewhere :X
L2193[23:31:00] <lperkins2> That's why 4
layers of reinforced stone are needed :)
L2194[23:31:14] <ShadowKatStudios> That's
why you use solar panels.
L2195[23:31:18] <Caitlyn> Yeah I have to
this day CC computers that will NOT start after a server
restart
L2196[23:31:23] <Caitlyn> I have to walk
up and kick them
L2197[23:31:29] <gDroid2002> BigReactors
has reactors that don't go boom..
L2198[23:31:34] <gDroid2002> As far as I
can see
L2199[23:31:37] <gDroid2002> :P
L2200[23:31:39] <Sangar> Caitlyn, just
like real computers! i need to add that as a feature...
L2201[23:31:50] <Caitlyn> gDroid2002,
yet.
L2202[23:31:54] <gamax92> Its not a bug,
its a feature!
L2203[23:31:55] <Caitlyn> Sangar, no..
plox
L2204[23:32:01] <Pwootage> Sangar: I'm
going to blame you for every reactor explosion, OC-related or not,
now >:(
L2205[23:32:03] <gDroid2002> I think the
turbines can but that's hard
L2206[23:32:05] <lperkins2> I like the
threat of reactors going boom.
L2207[23:32:07] <Caitlyn> Also, my
computer starts up after a power fail with no issue.
L2208[23:32:08] <gamax92>
#BlameSangar
L2209[23:32:14] <lperkins2> Besides, they
are cheap, so they can be an effective way to mine :)
L2210[23:32:26] <Sangar> i think there
was a blame-forward... was it going to kilo or vex, i can't
remember
L2211[23:32:29] <gamax92> Kasen: tracking
every place where the texture is filled with black ._.
L2212[23:32:32] <gamax92> see if that
helps.
L2213[23:33:01] <Kasen> lol
L2214[23:33:16] <lperkins2> WTH, I'm
updating to a new forge version and my gradle build file is
ignoring the ... oh, the path is relative to the wrong folder
L2215[23:33:16] <gamax92> I do have an
idea though of why its doing it
L2216[23:33:21] <gamax92> and if im
correct, its ds84182's fault.
L2217[23:33:23] <lperkins2> I do so love
that it silently ignores missing files...
L2218[23:33:28] <Kasen> oh?
L2219[23:33:28] <Kasen> heh
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L2221[23:34:22] <lperkins2> So much fewer
errors.
L2222[23:34:57] <ds84182> what
L2223[23:36:03] <lperkins2> I think it's
actually going to update from the ancient version of forge I'd been
using.
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L2225[23:39:38] <gamax92> that moment
when the texture is completely transparent
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L2228[23:40:22] <gamax92> Kasen: nope, no
leads, i removed every single fill(Color.black) and it still
borks.
L2229[23:40:34] <Kasen> huh
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L2231[23:42:15] <gDroid2002> It's
probably loading it in default state
L2232[23:42:55] <gamax92> oh btw ds84182,
external monitors go back to black when someone enters render
distance/joins server
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L2234[23:43:57] <Kasen> the joins server
thing is probably because we join in render distance
L2235[23:44:06] <gamax92> ahh yeah
L2236[23:44:08] <gDroid2002> ^
L2237[23:44:37] <lperkins2> It built!
Okay, I'm now running against forge 1230.
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L2240[23:44:59] <lperkins2> Should I be
using 1286?
L2241[23:45:05] <lperkins2> It being the
latest...
L2242[23:46:52] <Sangar> dunno. i'm
building against 1236 still, because i don't think anything changed
that bothers me in dev-env or would lead to the stuff i build this
way being incompatible
L2243[23:47:02] <lperkins2> Actually no,
silly me, I'm running against the latest git version,
L2244[23:47:28] <lperkins2> And yeah, not
much for changes in the main stuff between that and the old
one,
L2245[23:47:35] <lperkins2> mostly other
mods' apis that broke my stuff.
L2246[23:47:37] <Kasen> are the docs
something that people can contribute to, or is it a private site?
i've noticed a few small errors here and there
L2247[23:47:40] <lperkins2> (or
internals)
L2248[23:48:34] <Sangar> Kasen, oc doc?
the wiki is open for registration, jdoc fixing prs are
welcome
L2249[23:48:55] <Kasen> oh, it's a wiki?
didn't realise
L2250[23:48:59] <Kasen> derp, says wiki
at the bottom
L2251[23:49:02] <Sangar> heh
L2252[23:49:07] <Kasen> i just saw the
.txt filename at the bottom
L2253[23:49:22] <Kasen> assumed it was
built from a git repo or something
L2254[23:49:53] <Sangar> that was also a
consideration, but dokuwiki was recommended to me, so that's what
it is :P
L2255[23:49:58] <Pwootage> lperkins2: did
you finally port your thing to grade? :o
L2256[23:50:12] <Pwootage> Sangar: is
there a particular reason there's no external drive bay other than
RAID?
L2257[23:50:21] <lperkins2> Heh, no idea
how, and the tutorials I found when I first started trying to do
all this stuff were terrible.
L2258[23:50:49] <Pwootage> lperkins2:
well if it works :D
L2259[23:51:02] <lperkins2> If someone
wants to, or someone can at least point me at an easy way to do it,
I'd create gradle project files for it.
L2260[23:51:03] <Sangar> Pwootage, not
really
L2261[23:51:36] <Pwootage> Sangar: I
wanted one yesterday because my boot script crashed my OS and it
was obnoxious to fix (I mean without just deleting it off my RL
hdd)
L2262[23:51:38] <lperkins2> As it is, I
have a diff against the default forge script and hacked my library
list into forge's. Then I extract the parts I actually want from
the forge archive it generates.
L2263[23:51:48] <Pwootage> I had to build
a t3 server so I could mount two t3 hdds in the same machine
L2264[23:51:57] <lperkins2> Why not use a
boot disk?
L2265[23:52:02] <Sangar> ^
L2266[23:52:18] <Pwootage> Uh
L2267[23:52:31] <Pwootage> Either it
wasn't booting from it first or I'm dumb and thought it
didn't
L2268[23:52:52] <Pwootage> although in
general it seems like a useful component
L2269[23:53:26] ***
Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off
L2270[23:53:31] <Sangar> well you'd have
to remove your hdd to make it boot from the floppy (to look for
another boot device, basically)
L2271[23:53:34] <Sangar> but other than
that
L2272[23:53:43] ***
Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L2273[23:53:54] <lperkins2> You can
hot-add hard drives on the default arch
L2274[23:54:18] <Sangar> also, if the
problem was an autorun script, there's
filesystem.setAutorunEnabled(false)
L2275[23:54:19] <Kasen> ah, i see why a
bunch of github links broke
L2276[23:54:23] <Kasen> there's no master
branch
L2277[23:54:42] <Sangar> ah, yeah, that
was renamed a long time ago, so i guess those were broken for quite
a while then >_>
L2278[23:54:51] <Caitlyn> *** /dev/xvda1
should be checked for errors ***
L2279[23:54:52] <Caitlyn> Oh fun
L2280[23:55:16] <Pwootage> (on phone
now)
L2281[23:55:18] <Kasen> i could set them
to the 1.7 master ones, but they're going to break again
eventually
L2282[23:55:31] <Pwootage> I didn't think
you could hot-swap for some reason
L2283[23:55:45] <gDroid2002> OC should
add toasters that can replace specific keys on the keyboard
L2284[23:56:02] <Kasen> gDroid2002, i
know what mod to make now :P
L2285[23:56:02] <gDroid2002> :3
L2286[23:56:08] <gDroid2002> XD
L2287[23:56:56] <Pwootage>
,/boot/98_pacyak.lua
L2288[23:57:24] <Pwootage> (it does
package symlinks on boot)
L2289[23:57:31] *
lperkins2 crosses fingers