OCLogs: 2015-01-07.log

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L2[00:07:51] <Dashkal> printerDifficulty. 0) Free books! 1) Magical fairy land where it takes paper and leather and spits out exactly what you asked for every time. 2) Jams, ink runs out at random times. Mechanical failure. 3) Actually prints eldritch texts and after a few jobs a portal to outside opens.

L3[00:09:38] <Sangar> 4) Still requires a parallel port.

L4[00:10:07] <Dashkal> hey now... that's just wrong.

L5[00:11:37] <Sangar> tales from the days joysticks were connected to a dedicated port design available on your sound card :>

L6[00:12:09] <Dashkal> I think I have such a gamepad hiding in a box somewhere...

L7[00:12:22] <Dashkal> Pretty sure one of my graveyard computers has the sound card to match

L8[00:12:35] <Sangar> :D

L9[00:13:05] <Dashkal> Commander Keen was awesome.

L10[00:13:13] <Sangar> i think my m$ sidewinder (2?) is still catching dust somewhere

L11[00:13:54] <Dashkal> Mine was a creative gamepad. Looked like a dual shock and a snes controller had a baby

L12[00:13:54] <Sangar> flight simulator 95 \o/ can't believe i actually spent time on that in retrospect

L13[00:14:18] <Dashkal> (And sent it through a time portal)

L14[00:14:37] <Sangar> hehe

L15[00:14:48] <Dashkal> Sangar: I blame you... I'm starting to seriously consider resurecting my old pet language. I'm eying the arch docs.

L16[00:15:00] <Sangar> :D

L17[00:15:26] <Dashkal> Why'd you have to go and be reasonable and let me swap out Lua? Huh?

L18[00:15:49] <Dashkal> But seriously. This is realy cool. Many thanks.

L19[00:16:04] <Dashkal> I don't actually expect to finish this project, but it'll be fun regardless.

L20[00:16:05] <Sangar> i'm pretty sure it was only a passing thought until asie convinced me to actually do it :X

L21[00:16:36] <Sangar> if you notice anything missing from that api lemme know

L22[00:16:41] <Dashkal> Heh, fair enough. asie has a habit of pushing people to do things that end up really cool, I've noticed.

L23[00:17:01] <Sangar> it's obviously kinda tailored towards Lua right now, and what i could think of at the time

L24[00:17:05] <Dashkal> Well, a documentation point. It's not clear from the docs themselves when I should 'start'. That is, the point where I should start interrogating the EEPROM.

L25[00:17:39] <Dashkal> Do I get a signal? Does runThreaded just get called repeatedly for idle cycles?

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L27[00:18:22] <Sangar> that's probably because the eeprom didn't exist when i wrote that :X

L28[00:18:32] <Sangar> have to have a look myself again, one sec

L29[00:18:43] <Dashkal> Oh no, that's fair, but the question would have remained. At that point it'd be "when do I start seeking hard drives?"

L30[00:18:57] <gamax92> Sangar: so uhh, does that eeprom likely affect my oc-example-architecture/processor ?

L31[00:19:49] <Sangar> gamax92, yeah, insofar as that it doesn't have to search fses for init.lua anymore but can just get the binary blob from the only possibly present eeprom

L32[00:20:20] <Sangar> but since iirc that didn't actually show that part, no :P

L33[00:20:42] <gamax92> Sangar: umm ... yeah the arch's in those examples do nothing at all

L34[00:21:05] <Sangar> nevermind then

L35[00:21:15] <Sangar> so yeah, regarding starting up.

L36[00:22:43] <Sangar> basically what you'll want to do is set up the machine in initialize(), i.e. load the initial code and then pause it. then in runThreaded (which gets called first, and unless you don't actively request a synched call it'll be the only one called) run your bootstrap code

L37[00:23:03] <Dashkal> is initialize() in the main thread? More to the point, do I have component access there?

L38[00:23:29] <Sangar> it is and you do (via your machine.node())

L39[00:23:41] <Dashkal> And just to be clear, does runThreaded() simply get called repeatedly? Not fully clear on what triggers that.

L40[00:24:58] <Dashkal> runSynchronized() and the immediately following runThreaded() are clear enough (ask for it and you go sync, return from that and shortly you'll go runThreaded(true). It's the runThreaded(false) calls I'm unsure of.

L41[00:24:59] <Sangar> yes. the Machine class hosts architectures and takes care of scheduling basically. it'll pause when told to, otherwise keep calling runThreaded (as long as signals are queued i think? lemme check)

L42[00:25:10] <ds84182> I love the fillrate

L43[00:25:15] <ds84182> on all the graphics card

L44[00:25:23] <ds84182> "Fill rate" A classic

L45[00:25:42] <Dashkal> That's exactly what I'm curious of. Do signals have to fire? If so, I suppose I would implement yield by queuing a signal of some sort.

L46[00:25:53] <Dashkal> I'm not done yet, but I'm letting go. Call me back.

L47[00:28:10] <Sangar> ah, right that's what it was: it gets called after the machine was started, after that it depends on what you return from runThreaded, i.e. the ExecutionResult. if you return a sleep of zero ticks it'll be called again as soon as possible, otherwise when there's a signal or that number of ticks have elapsed

L48[00:28:28] <Sangar> Dashkal ^

L49[00:29:39] <Dashkal> Gotcha. Thank you :)

L50[00:30:32] <Dashkal> One more refinment. If I ignore said signal (leave it in the queue), does that cause an immediate retrigger or does my new sleep result get honored?

L51[00:31:09] <Sangar> in that case the sleep will be ignored

L52[00:31:59] <Sangar> it's not necessarily absolutely immediate though, depending on how many other computers are running and keeping the worker threads busy. return basically makes the machine yield the worker thread and wait until it gets it again.

L53[00:32:07] <Dashkal> Gotcha

L54[00:32:29] <Sangar> let me know how it goes :)

L55[00:32:31] <Dashkal> I need to dig into javadoc at this point to get to better questions.

L56[00:32:35] <Dashkal> Thank you for the kickstart :)

L57[00:32:40] <Sangar> no problem at all :)

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L60[00:45:32] <Soni> hey what is this? https://github.com/eNByeX/NBX-Mod/compare/0cdad06c50fa455945a8a31483c179d140d9274c...master

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L68[01:10:14] <lperkins2> Hm, odd. No players logged in, CPU is sitting at 13%, and I keep getting can't keep up messages from my server.

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L71[01:10:27] <lperkins2> Network disk and memory are all fine, not swapping at all..

L72[01:15:34] <PotatoTrumpet> \o/ Time to write an essay!

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L75[01:21:57] <lperkins2> Well, I guess I'll run the server in a ramdisk and see what happens.

L76[01:31:24] <Dashkal> <rant>THAT'S NOT WHAT OPEN SOURCE MEANS</rant>

L77[01:31:30] <Dashkal> @StargateTech2

L78[01:32:26] <LordFokas> Dashkal, ugh yeah that's very old and needs urgent updating. I just happen to suck at licences.

L79[01:32:46] <LordFokas> I want something close to DBAJ

L80[01:33:08] <Dashkal> Thank you!

L81[01:33:20] <Dashkal> Cause yeah, what's there is definitely a propriertary license

L82[01:33:49] <Dashkal> I suspect you don't actually want an OSI style open source license, which is fine. My rant is more using that term but not using its meaning.

L83[01:34:36] <LordFokas> care to help?

L84[01:34:38] <Dashkal> That all said. This looks really cool! I'm going to load it into a test instance and poke about.

L85[01:34:54] <LordFokas> oh you're playing with it? NICE

L86[01:34:55] <Dashkal> Not sure I can. My default is to use a MIT style license. Frees me from having to care what's done with it.

L87[01:35:11] <LordFokas> I thought you were just randomly complaining

L88[01:35:17] <Dashkal> Well, that's the intent. It'll be in my test instance tonight. If it goes well, yeah, it'll be in the server and you'll get some good testing :)

L89[01:35:35] <Dashkal> If not, you'll get some feedback and it'll be on my watch list :)

L90[01:35:39] <LordFokas> well come join us over at #StargateTech

L91[01:36:08] <LordFokas> keep in mind we are still on Alpha.

L92[01:36:25] <LordFokas> until now pretty much everything I've done was adding content and fixing crashes

L93[01:36:34] <LordFokas> but it's pretty stable

L94[01:36:41] <LordFokas> and not-so-unbalanced

L95[01:37:07] <Dashkal> :D

L96[01:37:12] <LordFokas> fine-tuning will come on Beta. Soon. Very soon.

L97[01:37:22] <LordFokas> oh you're on the channel. I can stop doing this here

L98[01:37:28] <Dashkal> :P

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L103[02:01:34] <Wired> I'm bored, give me a program or something to play with.

L104[02:17:20] <Sangar> iterator.hashNext... riiight. i think i'll head to bed now >_> gnight o/

L105[02:20:25] <Wired> Night!

L106[02:25:22] <LordFokas> \o

L107[02:31:26] <Wired> Robots are great.

L108[02:33:09] <gamax92> i uhh, i had a robot winding up a clockwork engine before.

L109[02:33:23] <gamax92> the engine produced more than the robot took.

L110[02:33:49] <Wired> I blame dark energy.

L111[02:50:43] <Wired> I got a server T1 and microchip T3 from 2 consecutive presents o_o

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L114[03:26:06] <Kodos> I made a coin toss app

L115[03:26:09] <Kodos> err program

L116[03:27:39] <ds84182> OHMYG AN APP

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L118[03:28:04] <ds84182> Oh yah, OC source finished cloning!

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L136[05:16:34] <Kodos> Who wants to decode a server crash

L137[05:16:40] <Kodos> Because I'm stumped

L138[05:16:49] <Kodos> Well

L139[05:16:50] <Kodos> Not stumped

L140[05:16:52] <Kodos> just frustrated

L141[05:22:12] <Wired> Is there any way to tell north with a tablet?

L142[05:22:34] <Kodos> debug card MAYBE

L143[05:28:39] <Caitlyn> Kodos, link it..?

L144[05:28:57] <Kodos> Gladly, one sec

L145[05:29:19] <Kodos> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e5ym1yv6xrr9gzq/fml-server-latest%20%284%29.log?dl=0

L146[05:29:48] <Caitlyn> effing dropbox....

L147[05:29:54] <Caitlyn> It'll be a minute since I have to download it

L148[05:32:47] <gamax92> Caitlyn: what mod is "appeng" ?

L149[05:32:57] <Caitlyn> Applied Energestics

L150[05:33:00] <gamax92> Kodos: ^

L151[05:33:39] <Kodos> Care to share what AE2 is causing a crash with? Because it worked fine until we changed the pack around

L152[05:34:20] <Caitlyn> so man AE2 NullPointers...

L153[05:34:21] <gamax92> i don't know, i just see tons and tons of lines from ae

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L156[05:34:52] <Caitlyn> Line 10654 to like 24+k

L157[05:34:58] <Caitlyn> is nothing but AE2 NPEs

L158[05:35:13] <gamax92> #lua 23975-10654

L159[05:35:13] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 13321

L160[05:38:45] <Caitlyn> The LanteaCraft "java.io.FileNotFoundException" thing has been around since WAAAAAAAY early in the 1.7 builds... it hurts nothing other than the creation/deletion log not existing in Dedicated

L161[05:39:22] <Kodos> Right

L162[05:39:34] <Kodos> I'm just frustrated because there's no 'error'

L163[05:39:38] <Kodos> the server just stops

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L171[06:35:17] <Pwootage> BWAHAHAHA, my compiler can tokenize! http://i.imgur.com/U4wiYFq.png

L172[06:39:16] <gamax92> TIL, Atari was a bunch of drunk or drugged programmers

L173[06:39:25] <gamax92> party on fridays

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L178[07:12:14] <Wired> Futurama reference in the robot names <3

L179[07:12:46] <Kodos> Let me know if you get a robot named Kodos

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L181[07:14:00] <Wired> I have Vexatos and Calculon at the moment.

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L183[07:16:09] <Caitlyn> Michiyo is in there too... wonder if I should PR a name change

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L189[07:33:57] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: You gon come on the server tonight?

L190[07:34:05] <dangranos> huh, skyrim kinda launched

L191[07:34:12] <dangranos> hope it will load

L192[07:36:07] <dangranos> nope, no menu

L193[07:41:56] <Cruor> dangranos: skyrim isnt supposed to load D:

L194[07:42:10] <gamax92> You're winner!

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L197[07:44:36] <gamax92> asie: YOU'RE WINNER !

L198[07:45:33] <Cruor> gamax92: ill end you ;_;

L199[07:45:54] <gamax92> Cruor: I'll draw miku in minecraft

L200[07:46:00] <asie> gamax92: why am I winner?

L201[07:47:29] <Cruor> gamax92: ;_; why

L202[07:47:53] <gamax92> so many questions ;_;

L203[07:49:21] <asie> gamax92: why am i winner

L204[07:49:38] <gamax92> stahp ;~;

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L207[07:53:47] <Cruor> waaaat do

L208[07:54:03] <Cruor> visio license has max numbers of users .-.

L209[07:54:06] <Cruor> RIP

L210[07:54:23] <dangranos> torrents!

L211[07:54:43] <Cruor> ill ask IT god senpai

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L213[08:01:35] <lperkins2> SOB! I just called rm -r on my project folder not my scratch folder!

L214[08:02:13] <lperkins2> And thank you eclipse for watching filesystem changes and syncing in real time...

L215[08:02:15] <lperkins2> POS.

L216[08:03:36] <Wired> Make backups.

L217[08:03:58] <lperkins2> Of course, it isn't a total loss, I have version control,

L218[08:03:59] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm doing well...

L219[08:04:03] <ShadowKatStudios> I just woke up.

L220[08:04:05] <ShadowKatStudios> It's 7 PM

L221[08:04:08] <lperkins2> but most of today's work is gone.

L222[08:04:35] <lperkins2> Well, maybe no, I do have a decent decompiler, so I can probably recover most of it...

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L224[08:05:39] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: What's the possibility of you working on a hive-mind quarry program :P

L225[08:06:00] <ShadowKatStudios> 0

L226[08:06:08] <ShadowKatStudios> too long a time scale

L227[08:06:18] <ShadowKatStudios> I get bored after a short time

L228[08:06:31] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Er... I'd pay you in materials on the server.

L229[08:06:35] <Wired> Probably a lot.

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L231[08:17:32] <Cruor> i had to call microsoft ;_;

L232[08:17:36] <Cruor> then i gave up on life

L233[08:18:27] <Kilobyte> yeah your are not the only one who has to give them their soul

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L235[08:29:09] <dangranos> damn

L236[08:29:39] <ShadowKatStudios> damn?

L237[08:29:59] <dangranos> no menu in skyrim

L238[08:30:07] <dangranos> everywhere says "disable mods"

L239[08:30:10] <dangranos> i have no mods

L240[08:30:22] <ShadowKatStudios> gg

L241[08:30:27] <dangranos> (well, i am launching it in wine and its pirated copy)

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L243[08:32:29] <Zequan> Damn pirates

L244[08:32:59] <ShadowKatStudios> damn people with money

L245[08:33:13] <Zequan> I wish I had money

L246[08:34:17] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Server has this on it now: http://bit.ly/1tIqmmG

L247[08:34:33] <ShadowKatStudios> mmmk

L248[08:35:43] <dangranos> ahah

L249[08:35:48] <dangranos> skyrim uses flash for menus

L250[08:35:52] <dangranos> maybe

L251[08:35:56] <ShadowKatStudios> o.O

L252[08:36:02] <dangranos> http://www.gamesas.com/main-menu-sits-dragonborn-symbol-t350566.html

L253[08:36:26] <ShadowKatStudios> flash

L254[08:36:28] <ShadowKatStudios> why D:

L255[08:36:38] <dangranos> "its cool"

L256[08:36:42] <dangranos> "its everywhere"

L257[08:36:55] <ShadowKatStudios> "it's terrible"

L258[08:37:18] <dangranos> "its overused"

L259[08:37:40] <Wired> I know of only 1 thing that uses flash that I like.

L260[08:38:00] <dangranos> what is it?

L261[08:38:04] <Wired> Machinarium

L262[08:38:05] <ShadowKatStudios> I don't have flash installed on Linux or Windows

L263[08:38:24] <dangranos> wai, you played skyrim, right?

L264[08:38:34] <Wired> I've never played skyrim

L265[08:38:40] <dangranos> i was talking with sks

L266[08:38:45] <ShadowKatStudios> mmm?

L267[08:39:40] <ShadowKatStudios> hold on, I'll double check

L268[08:39:42] <ShadowKatStudios> $ tree -if /media/winHDD | grep [Ff]lash

L269[08:40:39] <Hatsuse> Hello

L270[08:41:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Evening.

L271[08:41:20] <Hatsuse> Is you doing the lua's

L272[08:41:23] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: No flash installed on Windows

L273[08:41:53] <Hatsuse> e_e;;; windows

L274[08:42:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Worry not, I use linux primarily

L275[08:42:46] <Hatsuse> Distro?

L276[08:42:52] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/ebxJ1/848dbfb834.jpg

L277[08:42:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Arch

L278[08:42:58] <Hatsuse> Void

L279[08:43:21] <Hatsuse> Kodos pls

L280[08:43:42] <ShadowKatStudios> uhh

L281[08:43:57] <Hatsuse> Void linux

L282[08:44:06] <Hatsuse> You haven't heard of it?

L283[08:44:22] <ShadowKatStudios> nope

L284[08:44:36] <Hatsuse> Just think of arch

L285[08:44:44] <Hatsuse> But more complicated

L286[08:45:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Rolling release, nice...

L287[08:45:04] <Hatsuse> I'm still trying to configure the docking trays

L288[08:45:15] <ShadowKatStudios> I've never used xbps though

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L290[08:45:52] <Hatsuse> I've been messing with a bunch of mod ids and its funny

L291[08:46:11] <Hatsuse> I've turned all item block in the game into Solid block states

L292[08:46:44] <Hatsuse> Truly a lag fest

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L294[08:49:02] <dangranos> ?

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L297[08:54:44] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: I'm gonna attempt making a mining program, you can help if you like.

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L299[09:01:21] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: Were you looking for a 1.7.10 copy of MapWriter?

L300[09:01:28] <dangranos> ?

L301[09:01:31] <dangranos> kinda found it

L302[09:01:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Fair enough

L303[09:01:40] <ShadowKatStudios> I just found a copy

L304[09:01:52] <dangranos> on mapwriter thread?

L305[09:03:04] <ShadowKatStudios> nope

L306[09:03:06] <ShadowKatStudios> elsewhere

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L310[09:08:41] <Wired> Has anyone made any good mining programs?

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L321[09:14:19] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Your skex has inspired me to make a simple eeprog thing of my own ^_^

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L332[09:22:26] <ShadowKatStudios> I have found

L333[09:22:35] <ShadowKatStudios> A mountain almost high enough to touch the clouds

L334[09:22:38] <Stary2001|web> ;o

L335[09:22:43] <Stary2001|web> o/ ShadowKatStudios

L336[09:22:56] <ShadowKatStudios> o/

L337[09:26:42] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Wanna skype? xD

L338[09:28:44] <Stary2001|web> ShadowKatStudios: how to lag cygwin: mkpasswd -d in school

L339[09:30:01] <dangranos> ...

L340[09:30:10] <dangranos> why you use cygwin in school?

L341[09:30:21] <Stary2001|web> why not

L342[09:30:47] <dangranos> use external storage with linux installed

L343[09:30:53] <Wired> What's cygwin?

L344[09:31:14] <dangranos> *nix emu for windows, needs recompilation

L345[09:31:22] <dangranos> iirc

L346[09:31:24] <Stary2001|web> dangrano, locked bootloader

L347[09:31:30] <Stary2001|web> as in, bios pass is set

L348[09:31:32] <Stary2001|web> and i dont know it

L349[09:33:42] <dangranos> remove battery?

L350[09:33:58] <Stary2001|web> because opening the case in the middle of an IT lesson wont be suspicious at all

L351[09:34:05] <dangranos> right

L352[09:34:14] <Stary2001|web> i'd have to unscrew it

L353[09:34:17] <Stary2001|web> rofl

L354[09:34:58] <dangranos> and no admin access?

L355[09:35:22] <Stary2001|web> indeed

L356[09:40:01] <lperkins2> Okay, I think I have my workspace restored...

L357[09:41:54] <lperkins2> Ugh, at least I knew what happened this time. One of my previous machines, I had a dual-seat setup. The keyboard was mirroring onto VT2, so I was getting really odd behaviour that took a long time to diagnose.

L358[09:42:51] <Stary2001|web> haha

L359[09:42:52] <lperkins2> (I ended up rm -r; ing my home folder, which fortunately choked on some write protected files,

L360[09:43:17] <Stary2001|web> rofl

L361[09:43:21] <lperkins2> I had switched working directories with the mouse, so that didn't mirror onto the other terminal,

L362[09:43:39] <lperkins2> I still have no idea how I managed to get it to do that, I don't think I could recreate it if I wanted to.

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L364[09:50:48] <Stary2001|web> LAUNCHCODES (E:)

L365[09:50:52] <Stary2001|web> hehehe

L366[10:01:25] <Wired> What's the easiest way of receiving messages from a wireless card without using require("event")

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L369[10:31:32] <dangranos> playing terasology

L370[10:31:39] <dangranos> climbed up the mointain

L371[10:31:44] <dangranos> there is desert :|

L372[10:33:21] <dangranos> also, there is vertical chunks!

L373[10:33:24] <dangranos> but no crafting

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L403[12:06:23] <Wired> Is there a loadstring in OC?

L404[12:10:58] <ShadowKatStudios> load()

L405[12:11:05] <Wired> Thanks!

L406[12:15:26] <Sangar> o/

L407[12:15:32] <ShadowKatStudios> \o

L408[12:16:30] <Wired> o/

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L411[12:22:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Sangar: Am I crazy for attempting to automate things using flowers to generate power and drones to move items?

L412[12:22:43] <ShadowKatStudios> (Can drones move liquids?)

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L414[12:23:11] <Sangar> "crazy" is a very relative term here :P and yes, they can

L415[12:23:18] <Sangar> (given a tank upgrade)

L416[12:23:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Awesome.

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L424[12:59:24] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: How much power does skex lose on idle?

L425[12:59:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I haven't tested

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L428[13:05:43] <Wired> I'm noticing memory usage is fluctuating a lot on my microcontroller for no reason

L429[13:05:53] <Wired> Sangar: any explanations?

L430[13:06:19] <Sangar> lua gc

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L432[13:16:29] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Do you have a version of skex with all the return carriages/indents taken out?

L433[13:18:28] <ShadowKatStudios> not atm

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L436[13:22:31] <Wired> I'm making editable memory on an eeprog ^_^

L437[13:22:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Can we make eeprogs a thing?

L438[13:22:56] <ShadowKatStudios> EEPROM programs

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L440[13:23:20] <Wired> We should.

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L443[13:32:45] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: What's the best way to print the last line of a file?

L444[13:32:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Uh...

L445[13:33:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Load the file into a table

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L447[13:33:22] <ShadowKatStudios> print(t[#t])

L448[13:33:32] <Wired> Eh whatever, good enough :P

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L451[13:34:22] <dangranos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/779 fuck this last guy

L452[13:36:15] <CompanionCube> dangranos, why?

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L455[13:38:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Sangar: Can I dump items onto the ground with a drone?

L456[13:39:27] <Sangar> yes

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L465[13:53:52] <Negi> Dammit computer, that's not how you manage network D:

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L470[14:17:38] <dangranos> CompanionCube, because its negative addresses

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L479[14:44:31] <dangranos> hmm, if CC forum and site will die, what will happen to it?

L480[14:44:52] <Negi> I don't know.

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L482[14:47:25] <CompanionCube> dangranos, how will it die?

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L485[14:49:14] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Come on the server, made something pretty cool ^_^

L486[14:52:26] <dangranos_> CompanionCube, somehow

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L489[14:53:19] <ShadowKatStudios> i.4cdn.org/g/1420608001951.jpg priceless

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L491[14:53:48] <ShadowKatStudios> o.o I'm getting good at scaring people away

L492[14:53:52] <ShadowKatStudios> \o/

L493[14:55:07] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: protocols pls

L494[14:55:16] <Negi> Or rather

L495[14:55:20] <Wired> I successfully made eeprom that can save 3KB of data to itself.

L496[14:55:23] <Negi> Complete URLs instead of partial ones.

L497[14:55:35] <ShadowKatStudios> oh

L498[14:55:37] <ShadowKatStudios> oops

L499[14:55:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Damn it firefox, consistency please

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L501[14:55:49] <ShadowKatStudios> I miss 3.6

L502[14:55:50] <Negi> Wired: Auto-upgradeable EEPROMs yay

L503[14:56:13] <Wired> Who wants the code?

L504[14:56:18] <Negi> "Checking ROM updates...No updates found\nBooting."

L505[14:56:26] <Negi> Wired: Me ! Could be useful.

L506[14:56:35] <dangranos> sks "36" or "3.6"?

L507[14:56:53] * Negi is secretely building a repertory of Code of Interest for OC

L508[14:57:03] <dangranos> CoI?

L509[14:57:20] <Wired> Negi: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uAjzUg4P only 2KB, but there's a little more than 1KB free.

L510[14:57:27] <Mirodin> Hey guys, I got some question about mounting disks in OC: On my desktop I just can mount folders at different locations i.e. hdX/test to /test

L511[14:57:27] <Mirodin> I wonder if this is also possible in OC as I have some modules in one folder I want to mount at /usr/lib and some progs which should land at /usr/bin

L512[14:57:39] <dangranos> um

L513[14:57:41] <dangranos> wired

L514[14:57:48] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: 3.6

L515[14:57:54] <dangranos> you zeroed it wrong way

L516[14:57:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Firefox before it went weird

L517[14:58:00] <Wired> dangranos: Who cares, it works.

L518[14:58:15] <dangranos> you filled it with "0" istead of "\0"

L519[14:58:50] <Wired> Dun care

L520[14:58:59] <ShadowKatStudios> That's pretty cool.

L521[14:59:02] * dangranos stabs Wired

L522[14:59:51] <Wired> dangranos: They're just placeholders, it doesn't matter what they are. Could be all *s for anyone cares

L523[15:00:33] <Negi> Mirodin: I don't think it can be done with standard OpenOS, but that can be implemented in Lua.

L524[15:00:48] <Wired> Negi: It'll execute any code it's sent, just so ye know.

L525[15:01:16] <Mirodin> Negi: thanks you, maybe I will be there one day ;)

L526[15:01:46] <Negi> Wired: Interest : DRONES.

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L528[15:02:28] <Wired> Dunno what you'd want to save on a drone, but now you can! xD

L529[15:03:17] <Negi> Wired : Distant replacement of EEPROM code is generally a nice addon.

L530[15:03:33] <Negi> And I don't have to write it myself :D

L531[15:03:48] <Wired> Also the lack of security is kinda intentional, just command it to run a new loop if you'd like it to go to only listen to one ID

L532[15:05:32] <Negi> Hm

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L534[15:09:42] <dangranos> eeprom with network fs?

L535[15:09:52] <dangranos> or at least network bootstrapping

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L537[15:16:09] <Wired> I just made it as small as possible, 3303 bytes of ROM is what I could squeeze out of it

L538[15:16:41] <Wired> I could go slightly smaller by loading a bunch of stuff into RAM instead

L539[15:17:08] <Wired> But that would require initialization from a server

L540[15:17:54] <Wired> 3203*

L541[15:17:55] <CompanionCube> Wired, not bad for remote updates

L542[15:18:16] <Negi> And wouldn't you then lose space because of the code you use to manage that connection, Wired ?

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L544[15:18:25] <Negi> you'd use*

L545[15:19:13] <Wired> Negi: Basically I'd just remove the sleep/rom functions, and make you load that into it off-site

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L548[15:21:54] <Wired> If anybody wants the 3203 byte version, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zLgr8PB4

L549[15:21:54] <Negi> Which would then split the thing in two. :I

L550[15:22:45] <Wired> 3203 isn't tested so gimme a second

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L553[15:24:38] <Wired> Tested, it works fine.

L554[15:24:41] <Wired> Have fun with it ^_^

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L556[15:25:58] <Wired> You can change what port you're using by changing the variable "mP", default is 1024.

L557[15:31:32] <Wired> And here's the 3072 byte version, for those that don't really care about absolutely maxing it

L558[15:31:35] <Wired> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=adrZf12d

L559[15:33:28] <ShadowKatStudios> 3203

L560[15:33:30] <ShadowKatStudios> weird number

L561[15:33:53] <Wired> That's just what was left when I got rid of the notes and spacing.

L562[15:34:18] <Wired> I'll be using the 3072 version myself ^_^

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L565[15:38:34] <dangranos> priceless http://ultronbrowser.info/

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L570[15:44:34] <Negi> Omg dangranos

L571[15:44:40] <dangranos> ?

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L573[15:52:42] <Negi> That link

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L575[15:55:21] <Wired> A moderator has to approve my post before it can go up :(

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L578[16:05:16] <dangranos> Wired, what?

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L580[16:05:58] zsh sets mode: +v on gamax92

L581[16:07:03] <gamax92> mfw You go to sleep to Windows, and wake up to Linux (i.e Windows crashed)

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L584[16:08:15] <dangranos> ЧВ

L585[16:08:17] <dangranos> XD

L586[16:14:59] <Wired> dangranos: I made a forum post about the program.

L587[16:15:11] <dangranos> what program?

L588[16:15:28] <Wired> dangranos: The bios with the programmable memory.

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L593[16:44:29] <Wired> dangranos: If you wanna see it in action you can come on me server :P

L594[16:46:11] <Negi> DAPMIT

L595[16:46:37] <Wired> Negi: Hmm?

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L603[16:48:28] <Wired> Vexatos: What does the nick change mean?

L604[16:48:43] <Vexatos> It means my internet connection broke

L605[16:49:22] <Negi> Wired: I'm write a something in Python.

L606[16:49:28] <Negi> I had 99 problems.

L607[16:49:32] <Negi> I had to use regex.

L608[16:49:35] <Negi> Now I have 100.

L609[16:49:40] <gamax92> I'm writing something in Jython for OC

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L611[16:54:09] <Negi> gamax92: An Arch ?

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L615[16:58:06] <Negi> Dammit regex !

L616[17:01:18] <Negi> s/regex/Python/

L617[17:01:19] <Kibibyte> <Negi> Dammit Python !

L618[17:07:07] <vifino> gamax92: JRuby much better.

L619[17:07:16] <vifino> Less python, more ruby.

L620[17:07:20] <Vexatos> JJava best language

L621[17:07:55] <gamax92> Vexatos: the sad thing is that someone has probably made that

L622[17:08:37] <Vexatos> JBrainfudge

L623[17:08:47] <gamax92> How to crush a can! Put can on ground, put board on top of can, stand on board

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L625[17:09:50] <SKS-Away> That would do it evenly!

L626[17:09:55] *** SKS-Away is now known as ShadowKatStudios

L627[17:09:57] <ShadowKatStudios> damnit

L628[17:10:17] <gamax92> Well i don't have a can crush so thats my next option.

L629[17:10:23] * vifino hugs ShadowKatStudios

L630[17:10:40] <vifino> gamax92: Until you get a crush on a can, i am not worried.

L631[17:10:45] <vifino> brb

L632[17:10:50] <gamax92> ._.

L633[17:10:54] * gamax92 slaps vifino

L634[17:10:54] * EnderBot2 laughs

L635[17:10:54] * vifino gives gamax92 a hearty slap

L636[17:10:57] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: I've been on the same server as you for the last 6 hours, and you hug me here. Logic.

L637[17:11:11] <samis> ShadowKatStudios, lol I has a link for you

L638[17:11:23] <samis> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30695534

L639[17:11:23] <ShadowKatStudios> *checks time*

L640[17:11:40] <gamax92> I must know what server this is

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L643[17:11:51] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: What server? I wanna join.

L644[17:12:01] <gamax92> ^

L645[17:12:25] <Wired> I'm kinda bored playing alone on me private server ._.

L646[17:12:48] <ShadowKatStudios> ._. It's 4 AM

L647[17:13:02] <samis> ShadowKatStudios, you like link though?

L648[17:13:07] <Wired> Well you woke up at like 8 though so

L649[17:13:12] <ShadowKatStudios> looking now

L650[17:13:26] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: I weren't thinking about that ,_,

L651[17:13:50] <vifino> As I said, I am derpy ._.

L652[17:14:00] <Wired> Does anyone that I know at least somewhat wanna come play on the private server?

L653[17:14:05] <Wired> I'm lonely q_q

L654[17:14:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Wired, gamax92, talk to vifino about the server

L655[17:14:17] <gamax92> oh ...

L656[17:14:24] <ShadowKatStudios> It's far too early in the morning to think about that

L657[17:14:26] <vifino> Waitwat

L658[17:14:28] <gamax92> vifino: Hi there

L659[17:14:33] <gamax92> Can i be on server?

L660[17:14:34] <vifino> D:

L661[17:14:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Never mind me, just shifting work

L662[17:14:37] <gamax92> and what does server has

L663[17:14:58] <Negi> Wired: I would if my computer wasn't like overheating each time I do something a bit needy <_>

L664[17:15:04] <Negi> My fan sucks.

L665[17:15:12] <Negi> Well it litterally sucks air, too.

L666[17:15:18] <Negi> But it's a shitty noname.

L667[17:15:23] <gamax92> Negi: Have you tried blowing your computer?

L668[17:15:31] <Wired> That's hot.

L669[17:15:32] <gamax92> ... That was worded so badly ...

L670[17:15:35] <Negi> gamax92: I did yesterday. And a week ago.

L671[17:16:02] <Negi> And the part of me that doesn't have a twisted pervy mind caught that first.

L672[17:16:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: Obtain a desk fan.

L673[17:16:10] <Negi> SKS : No monies.

L674[17:16:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Is your computer a desktop?

L675[17:16:18] <Negi> I'm a cheap. My computer was already free :D

L676[17:16:22] <ShadowKatStudios> You don't have a spare desk fan?

L677[17:16:23] <Wired> Well I got a pretty solid double entendre out of it so I'm happy.

L678[17:16:27] <Negi> Nah it's a laplaplaptoooop

L679[17:16:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh.

L680[17:16:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Got any spare heatsinks?

L681[17:16:46] <gamax92> I spray some cold air into the vents.

L682[17:16:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Even just a piece of metal or 2?

L683[17:16:51] <Negi> Why the hell would I have spare heatsinks ?

L684[17:16:54] <gamax92> lol

L685[17:16:54] <Negi> And no I don't

L686[17:17:07] * samis has used a stack of thick books as a heatsink before

L687[17:17:11] <Negi> Because my mother mostly throws away anything that could be a bit useful if refined.

L688[17:17:14] <gamax92> O_O

L689[17:17:16] <ShadowKatStudios> I have a draw of spare heatsinks

L690[17:17:19] <gamax92> samis wtf

L691[17:17:29] <Wired> That sounds like a pretty bad idea.

L692[17:17:38] <Negi> I used to use microbooks that fit on two fingers to lift my laptop up gamax92.

L693[17:17:39] <gamax92> "I have used gasoline as a heatsink before"

L694[17:17:47] <gamax92> Negi: thats different

L695[17:17:55] <Wired> Livin' on the edge baby.

L696[17:18:01] <gamax92> Though for me, it was legos

L697[17:18:02] <samis> Either it worked, or my issues with random shutdowns were caused by something else

L698[17:18:08] <ShadowKatStudios> I've used lego bricks to cool a laptop

L699[17:18:20] <gamax92> i would use lego's to prop up game consoles from the carpet

L700[17:18:32] <Negi> Well excuse me but heat doesn't put fire to paper. And generally books are covered in sturdy materials.

L701[17:18:33] <gamax92> my dad has pieces of wooden panels to prop up his computer.

L702[17:18:39] <Wired> I generally use a metal cookie sheet or something.

L703[17:18:45] <Wired> Transfers heat nicely.

L704[17:18:52] <gamax92> b-b-b-b-b-but

L705[17:18:58] <gamax92> heat + fuel + oxygen

L706[17:19:00] <vifino> Butt.

L707[17:19:00] <gamax92> paper is fule

L708[17:19:02] <Negi> I used to use a computer to prop up my computer.

L709[17:19:11] <Negi> gamax92: You get it wrong.

L710[17:19:13] <gamax92> dammit

L711[17:19:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Why is the hottest part of so many computers the HDD?

L712[17:19:20] <Negi> Activator + Fuel + Dioxygen.

L713[17:19:26] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Moving parts...

L714[17:19:40] <ShadowKatStudios> The fan is moving parts

L715[17:19:41] <gamax92> wait is that actually how it is

L716[17:19:48] <gamax92> because I've never heard that.

L717[17:20:10] <dangranos> :(

L718[17:20:10] <Negi> activator could be a sparkle of electricity ie.

L719[17:20:14] <dangranos> i want to install skype

L720[17:20:15] <dangranos> on wine

L721[17:20:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Why?

L722[17:20:24] <gamax92> dangranos: it turns out horrible

L723[17:20:26] <dangranos> its fck up

L724[17:20:27] <ShadowKatStudios> The Linux version has no ads

L725[17:20:30] <Negi> Wait is that even the right word ?

L726[17:20:36] <Wired> Skype sucks.

L727[17:20:39] <gamax92> THE LINUX VERSION OF SKYPE IS SEVERELY LIMITED

L728[17:20:46] <gamax92> and looks like garbage

L729[17:20:46] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: The Linux version is shitty to install on amd64 computers.

L730[17:20:48] <Wired> Skype sucks.

L731[17:20:48] <dangranos> Wired, there is mortals who still use skype

L732[17:20:57] <Negi> Except with Arch.

L733[17:21:03] <dangranos> iirc, they removed alsa support, MOTHERFUCKERS

L734[17:21:08] <dangranos> sorry

L735[17:21:10] <gamax92> n-no?

L736[17:21:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: You mean there is stuff other than arch? :P

L737[17:21:21] <Negi> Debian.

L738[17:21:26] <ShadowKatStudios> I know.

L739[17:21:36] <gamax92> lets make a list of linux flavors

L740[17:21:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Still, multilib is exceedingly useful

L741[17:21:36] <Negi> I has to use that because my computer will get formatted for my exams anyway.

L742[17:21:36] <dangranos> aaaand slackware

L743[17:21:36] <vifino> gamax92: Yes, they removed Alsa support.

L744[17:21:43] <gamax92> vifino: oh okay.

L745[17:21:52] <Negi> So I don't want to make a niceleydo Arch config and then get it wiped off.

L746[17:22:06] <dangranos> fuck yeah

L747[17:22:10] <dangranos> there is apulse

L748[17:22:13] <Wired> The linux version doesn't look that bad http://i.imgur.com/ZD4BNxP.png

L749[17:22:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Xfce, GNOME or KDE, Negi?

L750[17:22:16] <dangranos> its emulates pulse

L751[17:22:17] <gamax92> Sabayon, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, RedHat, ...

L752[17:22:22] <vifino> They depend on pulse now, gamax92.

L753[17:22:25] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: i3 most of time. XFCE for now.

L754[17:22:33] <gamax92> vifino: server

L755[17:22:39] <gamax92> :3

L756[17:22:43] <vifino> gamax92: ?

L757[17:22:44] <Negi> Wired: Group calls are generally bugged, there is no group video support.

L758[17:22:51] <gamax92> vifino: what is this server that you and sks were on

L759[17:22:52] <Negi> DAMMIT Skype Linux is v4 of Skype.

L760[17:22:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I use XFCE primarily

L761[17:23:00] <samis> +^

L762[17:23:03] <Negi> i3 is my big crush.

L763[17:23:05] <vifino> gamax92: My server.

L764[17:23:06] <Wired> Yeah but it does look alright...

L765[17:23:08] <samis> Xfce is an awesome DE.

L766[17:23:10] <gamax92> The linux skype cannot screenshare

L767[17:23:14] <gamax92> vifino: can i be on this server

L768[17:23:17] <Negi> Wired: But it's HELLA outdated.

L769[17:23:23] <Negi> Skype for Windows is v7.

L770[17:23:30] <Wired> gamax92: It can screenshare, but not in group calls.

L771[17:23:37] <Wired> Negi: Skype is crap anyway.

L772[17:23:39] <gamax92> oh well ... i group calls

L773[17:23:39] <vifino> gamax92: You could, theoretically.

L774[17:23:40] <Negi> I think v4 doesn't even properly implement cloud groupchats.

L775[17:23:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Say what you will, XFCE is low resource-usage but with features found in bigger DE/WMs

L776[17:23:53] <samis> Wired, you could always backup your arch config before wiping

L777[17:23:54] <gamax92> vifino: fine I'll take the hint that you don't want me there ._.

L778[17:24:01] <Negi> Wired: Well excuse me, find an argument so that I can convert all of my friends to standard XMPP.

L779[17:24:04] <Wired> samis: What?

L780[17:24:05] <vifino> gamax92: I do.

L781[17:24:07] <Negi> Especially since we need A/V stuff.

L782[17:24:10] <samis> oh wait

L783[17:24:13] <samis> got you mixed up with Negi

L784[17:24:26] <vifino> I just want to hear a nice, proper question from you, gamax92 :3

L785[17:24:31] <Negi> samis: I'm way to lazy for that.

L786[17:24:32] <dangranos> nah, ill install it to vm

L787[17:24:39] <gamax92> vifino: May I please join your server?

L788[17:24:40] <Wired> I'm rolling BSPWM/Arch ^_^

L789[17:24:42] * ShadowKatStudios no longer handles server admission as he tends to fuck it up

L790[17:24:50] <Wired> vifino: I'd like to join too.

L791[17:24:51] <Negi> way too*

L792[17:24:57] <vifino> gamax92: Yup. :3

L793[17:25:24] <Wired> My e-reader that I ordered gets here today.

L794[17:25:32] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: It's precisely why I dislike it.

L795[17:25:44] <gamax92> My video card that I ordered gets here ... "some time this week"

L796[17:25:57] <vifino> gamax92: tty.sh

L797[17:25:59] <vifino> hf

L798[17:26:04] <gamax92> vifino: no mods>

L799[17:26:05] <gamax92> ?

L800[17:26:11] <vifino> gamax92: Oh, there are mods :P

L801[17:26:19] <gamax92> then i need them.

L802[17:26:22] <ShadowKatStudios> They're all quite easy to find.

L803[17:26:27] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: You troll.

L804[17:26:31] <gamax92> ._. you don't have a zip?

L805[17:26:32] <ShadowKatStudios> :D

L806[17:26:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, we do.

L807[17:26:40] <Wired> "The Wired"? o_o

L808[17:26:46] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: :3

L809[17:26:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Wired: Serial Experiments Lain reference

L810[17:26:58] <gamax92> T_T

L811[17:27:42] <Negi> Seriously guys stop with the SEL references I watched the anime halfways through.

L812[17:27:52] *** skyem123|away is now known as skyem123

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L814[17:28:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: It's too late.

L815[17:28:08] <ShadowKatStudios> They can't be stopped.

L816[17:28:21] *** Riking|away is now known as Riking

L817[17:28:25] <dangranos> what anime?

L818[17:28:33] <Negi> The stairs, it keeps happening, SKS.

L819[17:28:34] <ShadowKatStudios> ._.

L820[17:28:38] <dangranos> damn, i am useless

L821[17:29:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: I can, however, say that I am the most likley reason the references are so abundant here.

L822[17:29:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Second only to skyem123

L823[17:29:43] <Negi> Yeah, but now I'm going to make cryptic references only a small group of people understands too. '^'

L824[17:29:43] <samis> why second?

L825[17:29:49] <Wired> gamax92: Wanna come play with me on this server? I'm bored q_q

L826[17:29:51] <ShadowKatStudios> wait

L827[17:29:53] <ShadowKatStudios> no

L828[17:29:58] <ShadowKatStudios> gahhh

L829[17:30:09] * skyem123 connects ShadowKatStudios to a computer

L830[17:30:10] <skyem123> :3

L831[17:30:22] <ShadowKatStudios> samis: I meant he was the second most likely reason

L832[17:30:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Sorry skyem123, I still beat you

L833[17:30:43] * skyem123 shrugs

L834[17:31:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway, skyem123, want to play MC?

L835[17:31:21] <samis> ShadowKatStudios, reverse engineering lanschool huehuehue

L836[17:31:23] <Negi> I want to play MC tho I'm pretty useless at it.

L837[17:31:28] <samis> skyem123, what does your school use?

L838[17:31:41] <skyem123> samis, for what?

L839[17:31:51] <samis> classroom control software

L840[17:32:38] <skyem123> It is hardly used, but it's called impero

L841[17:32:45] <Wired> What are some good uses for drones? I can't really find many

L842[17:33:05] <samis> ah

L843[17:33:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Wired: Item transfer and intelligent storage.

L844[17:33:32] <samis> skyem123, basically the classroom control software is like legal malware

L845[17:33:46] <skyem123> duh

L846[17:33:46] <samis> debugger methods, keylogging, history recording, web blocking, the works

L847[17:33:48] <Negi> We don't even have classroom control software around here...

L848[17:34:09] <skyem123> most teachers don't use it

L849[17:34:18] <samis> skyem123, I found method names in the code that were often used for DLL injection

L850[17:34:18] <Negi> Just a shitty bugged hypervisor called IACA.

L851[17:34:33] <skyem123> UHM

L852[17:34:43] <Negi> That does the same thing native Windows can do. Or correctly setup GNU/Linux computers

L853[17:34:45] <vifino> Wired: Ssssh, I want you to ask proper.

L854[17:34:54] <samis> skyem123, what?

L855[17:35:09] <ShadowKatStudios> * AmandaC bats at ShadowKatStudios

L856[17:35:11] <ShadowKatStudios> <AmandaC> It’s probably another DDOS

L857[17:35:12] <ShadowKatStudios> <ShadowKatStudios> wuh

L858[17:35:14] <ShadowKatStudios> <ShadowKatStudios> what'd I do?

L859[17:35:15] <ShadowKatStudios> <AmandaC> sighs

L860[17:35:17] <ShadowKatStudios> <AmandaC> wanders off

L861[17:35:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyone want to explain what just happened?

L862[17:35:28] <samis> AmandaC being a prick?

L863[17:35:32] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Amanda is unexplainable. Don't even try.

L864[17:35:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Besides that, samis

L865[17:35:46] <ShadowKatStudios> That's the normal state of things.

L866[17:35:51] <dangranos> yay, vm saves the world

L867[17:36:03] <dangranos> new skype is so... white

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L869[17:36:06] <dangranos> and empty

L870[17:36:12] <dangranos> and central

L871[17:36:19] <Negi> And ad-ey.

L872[17:36:20] <ShadowKatStudios> I once ran a fullscreen VM on my school laptop so I could avoid Winderps

L873[17:36:34] <samis> ShadowKatStudios, did admins not like linux

L874[17:36:36] <dangranos> >:D

L875[17:36:50] <vifino> Wired: Hello?

L876[17:36:50] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: not-protected-against-USB-boot school computers, yay :D

L877[17:36:51] <ShadowKatStudios> samis: They locked down the school-provided laptops laptops

L878[17:36:52] <vifino> x_x

L879[17:36:55] <vifino> Wired died

L880[17:37:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: They were.

L881[17:37:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Wired, I summon thee.

L882[17:37:10] <Negi> I mean, at my school.

L883[17:37:25] <Negi> They're not protected so instead of using shitty IACA and Winderps, I boot on a live dist.

L884[17:37:29] <Negi> Or rather did.

L885[17:37:34] * samis actually worked with linux / rpis for a lesson

L886[17:37:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Think I can run two MC instances and get onto Wired's server at the same time as being on yours, vifino?

L887[17:37:39] <Negi> Because it was laggy because of the shitty computers.

L888[17:37:39] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: AmandaC was talking about the website being down.

L889[17:37:49] <ShadowKatStudios> I assumed that.

L890[17:37:51] <gamax92> since you said, "<ShadowKatStudios> If it's not revived, everyone will have to :o move to OC!"

L891[17:38:00] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Doubt it.

L892[17:38:02] <Negi> I can't even understand how AD Inventor even RUNS on these bullshit things.

L893[17:38:03] <ShadowKatStudios> ._.

L894[17:38:10] <samis> The rest of the class had a different task: Installing LibreOffice

L895[17:38:19] <ShadowKatStudios> TIL AmandaC can't take a joke

L896[17:38:25] <dangranos> ?

L897[17:38:30] <samis> My task: An actual job the teacher wanted doing: installing the linux activboard drivers

L898[17:38:39] <Negi> samis: SO THEY EXIST

L899[17:38:50] <dangranos> what is this?

L900[17:38:59] <Negi> Activboard is interactive whiteboards.

L901[17:38:59] <samis> Negi, don't even try if you're not on ubuntu

L902[17:39:02] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: Starting second instance now, wish me luck

L903[17:39:07] <Negi> samis: Wanna try me ?

L904[17:39:11] <samis> dependencies will bite you in the ass

L905[17:39:15] <gamax92> lololol "The mcmod.info file in ATG-1.7.2-0.10.0.jar cannot be parsed as valid JSON"

L906[17:39:24] <samis> unless you're willing to extract .debxs

L907[17:39:33] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Amanda can't take anything, including herself.

L908[17:39:36] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: D:

L909[17:39:39] <Negi> Dependencies bite you in the ass with Skype and any non-i386 dist, samis.

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L911[17:39:50] <gamax92> Negi: not for me.

L912[17:40:00] <samis> Negi, the teacher was using a not-quite-ubuntu distro

L913[17:40:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Connecting to second server

L914[17:40:03] <Negi> gamax92: Shoosh you're on Arch.

L915[17:40:05] <gamax92> i installed skype and it immediately worked fine, linux mint 17.1 64bit

L916[17:40:05] <samis> the manu only provided ubuntu .debs

L917[17:40:09] <gamax92> no im on linux mint

L918[17:40:11] <Negi> Oh yeah Mint.

L919[17:40:12] <gamax92> 17.1

L920[17:40:23] <Negi> Yeah but Mint is an user-oriented thing.

L921[17:40:25] <samis> Negi, specifically, iirc it was Linux Lite

L922[17:40:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Compact Solars

L923[17:40:28] <Negi> So they got it all working.

L924[17:40:30] <ShadowKatStudios> -_-

L925[17:40:37] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: I told you it was on...

L926[17:40:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I forgot

L927[17:40:44] <samis> Negi, they didn't get it working afaik

L928[17:40:47] <gamax92> Negi: want to read a snippit from the update notes?

L929[17:40:49] <samis> impossible dependencies

L930[17:40:52] <Negi> samis: I WILL install activboard drivers on a computer and prove my maths teacher wrong !

L931[17:41:08] <samis> Negi, it took me for fucking ever to find them though

L932[17:41:11] <Negi> He said there wouldn't be any drivers for Linux.

L933[17:41:14] <Negi> Idec.

L934[17:41:54] <vifino> Wired: ...

L935[17:42:04] <gamax92> "Issues with Skype - In 64-bit, if you're experiencing issues with Skype, install the package "ia32-libs"."

L936[17:42:19] <gamax92> im guessing for me that was already installed

L937[17:42:25] <samis> Negi, iirc look on the manu's website / tech-support area

L938[17:42:31] <samis> you might find links to the packages there

L939[17:42:41] <vifino> Wired: Cheezus, i just want you to ask properly q_q

L940[17:42:48] <ShadowKatStudios> So Wired, still want to play on the same server as us?

L941[17:42:50] <samis> you'll likely need to add a new APT repository though.

L942[17:43:02] <samis> Negi, ^

L943[17:49:13] <Wired> vifino: Oh, I was making a bagel.

L944[17:49:30] <Wired> vifino: I didn't realize I asked in a rude way ._.

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L946[17:50:26] <vifino> Wired: Everything I saw was 'I'd like to join too.' which I did not identify as a question.

L947[17:52:19] <Wired> vifino: So what do I need to do to join?

L948[17:52:29] <vifino> Wired: Ask nice.

L949[17:52:49] <vifino> Ask if you could join.

L950[17:52:54] <Wired> vifino: Ask who?

L951[17:53:01] * vifino explodes

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L953[17:53:39] <Wired> Well I'm kinda confused, if you're the person and you already know I'd like to join, what would be the purpose of asking? Wouldn't this entire line of questioning circumvent that entirely?

L954[17:53:42] <dangranos> vifino, i would like to join, can i?

L955[17:53:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Wired: You (Wired2coffee) need to ask vifino nicely whether you can join the server.

L956[17:53:55] <Wired> So logically, I can figure out that you are not the person I need to ask.

L957[17:53:56] <ShadowKatStudios> That will grant you access.

L958[17:54:39] <Wired> Anywho, can I join, vifino?

L959[17:54:55] <Wired> My brain keeps reading your name as vivifino.

L960[17:55:20] <vifino> 'May I join your server?', 'Could I join your server?', 'I want to play on your server, can I do that, please?', ..

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L962[17:55:59] <Wired> I'm confuzzled ._.

L963[17:56:12] <gamax92> "vifino: May I please join your server?"

L964[17:56:14] <gamax92> Wired: do that

L965[17:56:18] <gamax92> ask nicely

L966[17:56:30] <dangranos> vifino, <dangranos> vifino, i would like to join, can i?

L967[17:56:49] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: Add a please and you're set

L968[17:56:54] <dangranos> please?

L969[17:56:57] <vifino> Oh, dangranos: Sorry, I missed that.

L970[17:57:00] <vifino> Sure.

L971[17:57:28] <dangranos> um, ip/modpack?

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L974[17:58:59] <Negi> Actually samis I was saying that because I remembered it when you said it.

L975[17:59:05] <Negi> But honestly I don't really care anymore.

L976[17:59:16] <samis> ah

L977[17:59:38] <samis> just for completeness, the dependency that made it impossible was ia32-libs

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L979[18:00:51] <Negi> The only pro of my boredom is that now the parser lib I made actually works.

L980[18:00:58] <Negi> Just need to write user tools around it.

L981[18:01:11] <Negi> (And eventually redo it in a more object-oriented fashion.)

L982[18:03:47] <dangranos> huh, what up with all this terrorists in france talks on imgur?

L983[18:04:27] <Wired> Reddit probably found another thing to talk about.

L984[18:04:49] <ShadowKatStudios> 5 AM

L985[18:05:05] <dangranos> 00:04 AM here

L986[18:05:06] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos: The journal "Charlie Hebdo" was attacked and 12 people killed.

L987[18:05:18] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: You said you got up at 1900, stop with your time nonsense.

L988[18:05:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Wired: I will generate any nonsense I like.

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L990[18:07:02] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Nonsense is only fun if it's really, really heavy.

L991[18:09:10] <Wired> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TLFjQrtM

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L994[18:13:03] <Negi> DeanIsaKitty: I heard 'bout that quickly. And honestly I don't even care because it's not the first time drama like that happened with them.

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L1000[18:31:58] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: "there you go"? ._.

L1001[18:32:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Yeah, I forgot it was open

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L1007[18:51:37] <Ender> anyone got any good IRC clients for windows that isn't mirc? hexchat doesn't want to run on cousin's pc for some reason

L1008[18:52:53] <Sangar> i don't know if it's any *good* at it, but iirc pidgin can irc.

L1009[18:53:40] <Negi> It's not good.

L1010[18:53:44] <Negi> I tried that.

L1011[18:54:00] <Sangar> welp, scratch that then :P

L1012[18:54:02] <Vexatos> Sangar, it does, but

L1013[18:54:04] <Negi> telnet is fun though.

L1014[18:54:06] <Vexatos> Use HexChat

L1015[18:54:11] <Vexatos> :P

L1016[18:54:18] <Vexatos> If it doesn't work, use more of it

L1017[18:54:29] <Vexatos> "For some reason" is no valid cause

L1018[18:54:32] <Sangar> throw more hexchat at the problem until you can't see the problem anymore?

L1019[18:54:46] <Negi> Vexatos: It did that to me.

L1020[18:54:53] <Negi> And then it stopped happens magically.

L1021[18:55:11] <Negi> I never understood why.

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L1023[18:55:35] <Aedda> VirtualBox + Debian + Weechat is what I would do if I did not have vps and needed irc from Windows. But maybe I'm insane.

L1024[18:55:44] <Vexatos> Sangar, same as FAL-84

L1025[18:56:44] <Kodos|Zzz> Make him place minecraft and use OpenIRC

L1026[18:56:49] <Kodos|Zzz> s/place/splay

L1027[18:56:50] <Kibibyte> <Kodos|Zzz> Make him splay minecraft and use OpenIRC

L1028[18:56:54] <Kodos|Zzz> s/splay/play

L1029[18:56:54] <Kibibyte> <Kodos|Zzz> Make him play minecraft and use OpenIRC

L1030[18:57:08] <Aedda> lol

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L1032[18:57:13] <Negi> Someone choose for me please, should I make a GUI tool or a CLI one ?

L1033[18:57:22] <Sangar> both?

L1034[18:57:27] <Aedda> Nether!

L1035[18:57:30] <Vexatos> I love FAL-84, by the way

L1036[18:57:32] <Sangar> End?

L1037[18:57:40] <Aedda> Do?

L1038[18:58:07] <Negi> Aedda: I'm not posting a release on my Tumblr if it's only a Python API none of my followers can use as-is.

L1039[18:58:17] <Negi> And Sangar I'm way too lazy to make both.

L1040[18:58:28] <Negi> (Or rather too eager to get back to adding features.)

L1041[18:58:38] <Sangar> Negi, make the cli one, then have the gui one just call the cli appropriately

L1042[18:58:44] <Aedda> Make a program that makes both for you, then you only need to make one thing. ;)

L1043[18:58:57] <Negi> GUIs in Python are gor-horrors.

L1044[19:01:06] <Negi> I could use Tk I guess

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L1046[19:04:47] <Kodos> So glad that RAID works attached to two computers at once now

L1047[19:05:33] <Aedda> Kodos: Wait, it does? how recently, is it something you fixed in code or something fixed in OC?

L1048[19:05:41] <Kodos> Well

L1049[19:05:45] <Kodos> At first I thought the computers were sharing states

L1050[19:05:57] <Kodos> but gamax92 pointed out that it was simply screens being bound to the opposite PCs

L1051[19:06:12] <Kodos> which is easily fixed with a quick analyze on the screen, and then primary'ing the screen

L1052[19:06:20] <gamax92> oh yeah

L1053[19:06:27] <gamax92> Sangar: is it possible raid's don't share components?

L1054[19:06:43] <gamax92> because sharing a raid with multiple computers usually ends up with screens on wrong computers

L1055[19:07:08] <Sangar> nope. if you want to do that you'll have to work for it a little :P

L1056[19:07:23] <Sangar> and if it's just an autorun script setting things as primary manually

L1057[19:08:00] <Aedda> Ok thanks, I had a friend having issues with raids, I'll copy pasta that to him! :)

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L1060[19:09:33] <Andchat1337> P

L1061[19:09:48] <Andchat1337> ping, kaytt pls

L1062[19:10:19] <Kodos> wat

L1063[19:10:54] <Andchat1337> Kaytt y u no open hexchat

L1064[19:12:36] <Andchat1337> :( is boring here

L1065[19:13:19] <Negi> It's IRC. There are moments were there is a DRRRR!-like conversation, and then plain silence from everyone.

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L1067[19:13:58] <Andchat1337> Naw am trying to get her to open hexchat

L1068[19:14:09] <Wired> Negi: That anime was pretty great.

L1069[19:14:28] <Andchat1337> ping, kaytt pls

L1070[19:14:44] <Ender> Vexatos, I install it, gonto run it and it does bugged all

L1071[19:15:26] <Negi> Ender: It crashes almost instantly ?

L1072[19:15:34] <Negi> And Wired I didn't get around to watch it yet;

L1073[19:15:38] <Andchat1337> :/ sorry teamviwer for android is Bork, I can't start ^v from here

L1074[19:15:39] <Negi> I just can make that reference.

L1075[19:16:10] <Negi> Teamviewer is generally bad. GGSSH Andchat1337.

L1076[19:16:16] <Ender> Negi, its process appears in task manager for a split second

L1077[19:16:40] <Negi> Ah, my issue was different. It would run, but crash after connecting to a server

L1078[19:16:51] <Negi> Like, immediately.

L1079[19:21:44] <Wired> Ender: I applied for your server ^_^

L1080[19:22:52] <Ender> k, either me or super will look at it soon

L1081[19:23:52] <Stary2001> Aedda: weechat runs ok with cygwin, too

L1082[19:24:45] <Aedda> Ah good to know, thank you Stary2001

L1083[19:27:11] <Wired> I'm gonna go play osu. Cya all later.

L1084[19:27:42] <Negi> Wired: You better come back with at least a A. :I

L1085[19:28:13] <Wired> Negi: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/wired If ye wanna play with me ^_^

L1086[19:28:49] <Negi> Nah I'm not on Windows RN and Wine isn't installed

L1087[19:29:02] <Negi> Plus I'm pretty shitty except for Mania mode.

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L1089[19:31:24] <Ender> wats

L1090[19:31:49] <Ender> ok, the x86 version of hexchat works

L1091[19:32:04] <Vexatos> you sure he's using 64x

L1092[19:32:08] <Vexatos> on his computer

L1093[19:32:08] <Vexatos> :P

L1094[19:32:13] <Vexatos> (Or she)

L1095[19:32:19] <Ender> windows says it is

L1096[19:32:23] <Ender> he

L1097[19:34:47] <Negi> Vexatos: The 64x version of Hexchat never works.

L1098[19:35:03] <Ender> Negi, works on my pcs

L1099[19:35:07] <Negi> What's the point of using a 64x ver of Hexchat anyway, lmao ?

L1100[19:35:11] <Negi> Ender: Didn't on mine.

L1101[19:35:16] <Vexatos> Negi, it's faster!

L1102[19:35:18] <Vexatos> You know, IRC

L1103[19:35:24] <Vexatos> >faster

L1104[19:35:51] <Negi> Uuuuh

L1105[19:36:58] <Negi> Vexatos: IRC doesn't need to be faster...

L1106[19:37:12] <Vexatos> Negi, congrats, you got the joke

L1107[19:37:35] <Negi> Yeah it's like Windows.

L1108[19:37:37] <Dashkal> I just got pointed at weechat. Time to investigate.

L1109[19:37:42] <Negi> It needs to be shittier anyway.

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L1111[19:38:08] <Negi> Dashkal : weechat is CUI. So if you like button-ey things, keep searching.

L1112[19:38:15] <Negi> If you don't mind it's pretty good.

L1113[19:38:40] <Dashkal> I want CUI. I'm using irssi because it's the only non-fail console client I was aware of

L1114[19:39:03] <Dashkal> I keep this thing in a tmux on a raspberry pi and remote into the thing.

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L1117[19:43:16] <dangranos> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/119ilk/subject_systemd_requires_http_server_and_serves/

L1118[19:43:18] <dangranos> wut

L1119[19:43:20] <dangranos> WUT

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L1121[19:44:36] <Ender> CyberTurd, \o/

L1122[19:45:03] <CyberTurd> Ender, o/

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L1124[19:53:58] <dangranos> CUI vs GUI vs command based?

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L1127[20:02:22] <Negi> s/command based/CLI/

L1128[20:02:22] <Kibibyte> <dangranos> CUI vs GUI vs CLI?

L1129[20:02:40] <dangranos> perfect theme for flame

L1130[20:02:48] <dangranos> or what is the word?

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L1134[20:21:40] <CyberTurd> hello!

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L1138[20:29:28] <samis2> ShadowKatStudios, ya there?

L1139[20:29:43] <ShadowKatStudios> mmm

L1140[20:30:12] <samis2> want the spec for the networking unit we will be starting in ~2wk?

L1141[20:30:22] <samis2> is of much good

L1142[20:30:48] <ShadowKatStudios> sure

L1143[20:30:52] <samis2> https://www.edexcel.com/migrationdocuments/BTEC%20Nationals%20from%202010/Unit-9-Computer-Networks.pdf

L1144[20:32:03] <ShadowKatStudios> >IRC

L1145[20:32:06] <ShadowKatStudios> IRC

L1146[20:32:11] <ShadowKatStudios> In a school unit

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L1148[20:32:31] <samis2> ShadowKatStudios, source motherfcuker

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L1152[20:33:35] <Robo11> Hey

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L1154[20:34:13] <ShadowKatStudios> samis2: Page 2, section 3, Telecommunications systems

L1155[20:35:18] <Robo11> Has someone tried already to edit the programs from external?

L1156[20:36:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Few people use the ingame editor for large programs

L1157[20:37:39] <dangranos> bye

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L1159[20:38:13] <Robo11> Ohh okay, but its bot as convenient as Notepad++ etc.

L1160[20:38:42] <Robo11> So, you dont trief it?

L1161[20:38:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Robo11: What ShadowKatStudios is *trying* to say is that basically everybody uses external editors

L1162[20:39:32] <ShadowKatStudios> ._. Sometimes I wonder why I bother trying to answer questions

L1163[20:40:20] <samis2> ShadowKatStudios, inb4 one of my assignments makes me discuss/describe IRC.

L1164[20:40:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Do you get to use examples, samis2?

L1165[20:40:44] <samis2> idfk

L1166[20:40:45] <Robo11> Okay, but if I change something with Notepad++ the program were not changed ingame

L1167[20:40:54] <samis2> Robo11, take out and reinsert the HDD.

L1168[20:41:03] <samis2> or disable buffered filesystems in the config

L1169[20:41:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Robo11: Turn the filesystem buffering option in the config

L1170[20:41:23] <ShadowKatStudios> but also re-inserting HDD works

L1171[20:42:01] <samis2> ShadowKatStudios, I wonder what channel I'd use for examples

L1172[20:42:18] <samis2> Stary2001, ^

L1173[20:42:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Here, of course!

L1174[20:42:33] <Robo11> Ahh yes thank you soooo much :) And sorry Shadow i didn't read your answer correctly

L1175[20:42:39] <gamax92> samis2: #lobby

L1176[20:42:40] <Stary2001> hah

L1177[20:42:55] <samis2> gamax92, good one

L1178[20:43:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Robo11: No worries, I'm apparently worse at english than a non-native speaker

L1179[20:43:01] <samis2> it would stop any tards from reaching me :p

L1180[20:43:03] <gamax92> :< what ...

L1181[20:43:28] * samis2 does not want any irl tards with his IRC

L1182[20:43:41] <gamax92> put them on a different network :P

L1183[20:43:52] <ShadowKatStudios> #oc on freenode

L1184[20:43:54] <ShadowKatStudios> yep

L1185[20:43:57] <ShadowKatStudios> totally on freenode

L1186[20:43:58] <samis2> gamax92, and use a different nick from my normal set

L1187[20:43:58] <Stary2001> loll

L1188[20:44:20] <samis2> *checks if DrMushroom is still regged*

L1189[20:44:24] <Ender> and back home

L1190[20:44:27] <samis2> nope, good

L1191[20:44:48] <Robo11> Okay i'll close for today! Thank you, have a nice day/night!

L1192[20:44:54] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: that awkward moment when someone is there.

L1193[20:45:08] <ShadowKatStudios> someone is there?

L1194[20:45:10] <gamax92> yah

L1195[20:46:09] <skyem123> er?

L1196[20:46:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Can confirm, someone is in #oc on freenode

L1197[20:46:47] <samis2> we'd have to fake activity though

L1198[20:46:49] <samis2> in order for it to seem legit

L1199[20:46:56] <skyem123> er

L1200[20:47:02] <Kubuxu> https://i.imgur.com/xq0iOgW.png

L1201[20:47:03] <Sangar> what does oc stand for, there?

L1202[20:47:27] <Ender> Orange Clair

L1203[20:47:32] <Ender> Orange Claire*

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L1205[20:48:12] <Negi> samis2 use irc.ppy.sh :')

L1206[20:48:26] <Negi> #lobby@irc.ppy.sh

L1207[20:48:35] <skyem123> err

L1208[20:48:46] <samis2> Negi, nah

L1209[20:48:49] <samis2> is unlikely

L1210[20:49:10] <Negi> Why so ?

L1211[20:49:28] <samis2> Negi, because no-one in my class knows what IRC is

L1212[20:49:30] <samis2> or that I use it

L1213[20:49:44] <Negi> I mean

L1214[20:49:56] <samis2> also, I doubt anyone will be interested

L1215[20:50:02] <Negi> pft

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L1217[20:50:14] <Negi> They better be or I'm hanging them on the walls.

L1218[20:50:23] <samis2> o.O

L1219[20:50:24] <Negi> IRC is the pinnacle of communication systems.

L1220[20:50:34] <samis2> IRC is win, I'll give you that.

L1221[20:51:18] <Alissa> IRC superior

L1222[20:51:36] <samis2> it's also the chat protocol behind twitch afaik

L1223[20:51:43] <ShadowKatStudios> It is.

L1224[20:51:53] <Ender> samis2, yep, mostly

L1225[20:52:07] <samis2> even though it's horribly butchered by them isn't it

L1226[20:53:49] <Ender> yeah

L1227[20:54:13] <Ender> there's a fair amount of non-standard crap in it

L1228[20:56:43] <CyberTurd> HEY ENDER

L1229[20:56:48] <CyberTurd> thanks

L1230[20:56:49] <Ender> ohai

L1231[20:56:53] <Ender> no problem

L1232[20:57:55] <Ender> CyberTurd, if your windows goes into that activation thing tomorrow try and wait till i can talk with you when you're doing it so you dont bugger anything up

L1233[20:59:15] <Ender> CyberTurd, also if you want to back up your BL2 saves they're in the "My Games" folder in your documents (that's where BorderLands 2 stores them)

L1234[21:02:01] <Ender> CyberTurd, also if you want to tell me something between ~7am-5:30pm do it in either a PM or the other channel because i may not see it in here

L1235[21:02:26] <Ender> in other news i only have one functional nostril

L1236[21:02:28] <Ender> :/

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L1242[21:19:57] <Ender> i need a vacuum pump to clear my nose :/

L1243[21:24:10] <samis2> Ender, xkcd reference?

L1244[21:27:33] <Ender> samis2, not that i know of

L1245[21:27:38] <samis2> close

L1246[21:27:45] <samis2> it was aquarium pumps that xkcd referenced

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L1250[21:32:49] <Pwootage> Hello!

L1251[21:33:09] <ShadowKatStudios> A wild Pwootage appeared

L1252[21:33:56] <Pwootage> With glorius stories of lexers/tokenizers!

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L1254[21:36:09] <ds84182> oh god

L1255[21:36:13] * ds84182 jumps

L1256[21:37:22] <Pwootage> Nah, it was easy, and is implemented pretty cleanly

L1257[21:37:29] <Pwootage> DFA to the rescue

L1258[21:37:49] * ds84182 puts Pwootage into a SHA256 headlock

L1259[21:38:14] <Pwootage> :( stupid hash-locks

L1260[21:38:22] <Pwootage> hard to get through (unless it's md5)

L1261[21:38:28] <gamax92> :D ds84182

L1262[21:38:32] * ds84182 puts Pwootage into a CRC32 headlock

L1263[21:38:39] <Pwootage> THat one is easy peasy!

L1264[21:38:42] <ds84182> gamax92, ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)

L1265[21:38:46] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

L1266[21:39:05] <ds84182> ( ͡ulittleshit ͜ʖ ͡ulittleshit)

L1267[21:39:33] <ds84182> ( ͡$ ͜ʖ ͡^)

L1268[21:40:25] <Negi> ds84182 I am so grateful you'd put your real name on GitHub.

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L1270[21:42:46] <ds84182> Oh yeah

L1271[21:42:48] <ds84182> thaaaaaaat

L1272[21:42:57] <ds84182> it's totally my real name and stuff

L1273[21:44:03] <Negi> I don't care if it is

L1274[21:44:20] <Negi> The point is that I remember that better than the 5 digits that come in your username.

L1275[21:45:02] <Negi> Which is handy when you're in History class. And can't pull your phone for a 2FA token. To download some stuff. Because you're actually coding or playing Minecraft instead of listening.

L1276[21:45:55] <Pwootage> ^ story of my life

L1277[21:46:16] <Pwootage> (although I use ssh keys for git sooo)

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L1281[21:52:26] <lperkins2> Sweet, OC computers don't lose state while moving via remain-in-motion

L1282[21:53:06] <Pwootage> OC computers don't really ever lose state, which is awesome

L1283[21:53:12] <Pwootage> and they don't thread-dupe either because thread pool

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L1287[21:54:39] <Negi> Well, Excuse Me, Pwootage. I got a laptop lended to me each time I need it 'cuz they don't want me to take my own laptop.

L1288[21:55:08] <Pwootage> Negi: Ah. Makes sense.

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L1290[21:56:04] <Pwootage> I just thought of a sweet break/place redstone torch-based method to make sure that your cart actually moved to report when your world decimator breaks down

L1291[21:56:22] <lperkins2> Right, my concern was in how they associate saved state with in-game computer.

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L1293[21:56:34] <lperkins2> If it was by computer coords, then changing the coords would break it.

L1294[21:56:47] <lperkins2> But it is by some sort of UID, which is what I thought.

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L1296[21:56:59] <Pwootage> Yeah, everything in OC is a UUID :P

L1297[21:57:18] <skyem123|zzz> Goodnight

L1298[21:57:26] <Pwootage> good night o/

L1299[21:57:36] <lperkins2> So can you still use CC peripherals with OC if CC isn't installed?

L1300[21:57:51] <Pwootage> I am pretty sure you need CC installed

L1301[21:58:14] <lperkins2> You'd need the CC api at least, or the peripherals can't be created and added to the world.

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L1303[21:58:32] <Negi> lperkins2: You need CC installed because the adapter is registered as a peripheral too on CC nets.

L1304[21:58:48] <Nirek> and usually mods won't load any of their compatibilty stuff without the mod, either.

L1305[21:58:48] <Negi> So it'd be weird to have a CC network without CC.

L1306[21:59:12] <Negi> That too.

L1307[21:59:39] <Pwootage> Or you can write a new peripheral for OC ;D

L1308[21:59:40] <lperkins2> Fair enough, I suppose I could simply disable crafting CC computers...

L1309[21:59:54] <Pwootage> lperkins2: yeah, was going to suggest that if you wanted to disable them

L1310[22:00:00] <lperkins2> Yes, but then I'd have to touch my transporter code again...

L1311[22:00:09] <Pwootage> train ride over, back later

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L1313[22:02:06] <lperkins2> Wow, latest version of RiM is smooth.

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L1316[22:03:52] <lperkins2> I almost couldn't tell it was moving.

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L1318[22:04:11] <ShadowKatStudios> How was your framerate?

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L1322[22:07:42] <lperkins2> VSynced to 60

L1323[22:07:51] <ShadowKatStudios> oh wait

L1324[22:07:53] <lperkins2> It does interfere with running still

L1325[22:08:04] <ShadowKatStudios> new computers run MC reasonably

L1326[22:08:05] <lperkins2> (it locks you to a block while it moves)

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L1328[22:08:30] <lperkins2> Heh, well and I patched some of the worse spots of MC to be somewhat faster...

L1329[22:09:36] <lperkins2> Now, what I wouldn't give for emacs on the OC computers...

L1330[22:09:55] <ds84182> lets do some acronym expansion!

L1331[22:10:04] <ds84182> s/OC/OpenComputers

L1332[22:10:04] <Kibibyte> <lperkins2> Now, what I wouldn't give for emacs on the OpenComputers computers...

L1333[22:10:14] <ds84182> computers computers! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

L1334[22:10:19] <ds84182> AAAAAAAAAAAA!Y!

L1335[22:10:23] <ds84182> lol

L1336[22:10:29] <ds84182> Idk whats wrong with me

L1337[22:10:41] <Sangar> everything?

L1338[22:10:42] <lperkins2> Yes, since OpenComputers is a proper name, and has computers in its collection of stuff.

L1339[22:10:48] <Sangar> ^

L1340[22:10:53] <lperkins2> It may sound odd, but it is exactly what I meant :)

L1341[22:10:58] <Dashkal> I'd love vim. I'd take nano.

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L1343[22:11:38] <lperkins2> As opposed to Open Computers, which would be computers with removed cases, or emacs in OpenComputers, which would be something? Maybe some new component called emacs? As opposed to a program for the simulated computer of OpenComputers.

L1344[22:11:51] <lperkins2> Yeah, nano would be good enough, I suppose.

L1345[22:12:13] <lperkins2> I'm not a huge fan of vim, I can never remember how to pull up the help menus,

L1346[22:12:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Gotta love it when an image is so large your processor struggles to scale it, even though you're using a haswell chip.

L1347[22:12:21] <ShadowKatStudios> :help

L1348[22:12:23] <Dashkal> esc :help :P

L1349[22:12:23] <lperkins2> nano an emacs are kind enough to provide the reminder for that.

L1350[22:12:33] <Dashkal> C-x C-h in emacs, isn't it?

L1351[22:12:39] <lperkins2> I believe.

L1352[22:12:44] <lperkins2> C-h in nano.

L1353[22:12:48] <Dashkal> I try to remember the help incantation for any editor

L1354[22:13:32] <lperkins2> F1 works in emacs,

L1355[22:13:38] <lperkins2> hit it a couple times

L1356[22:14:23] <lperkins2> And no, it's not C-x C-h,

L1357[22:14:49] <Dashkal> I do recall it tells you right when you open the thing.

L1358[22:14:50] <lperkins2> it's C-h t or C-h r for tutorial and manuals respectively

L1359[22:14:57] <ShadowKatStudios> As far as vim goes, we have ed in OC

L1360[22:15:00] <lperkins2> Yup, that's what I just did.

L1361[22:15:26] <lperkins2> That's why it would be nice to get something other than lua.

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L1363[22:15:36] <Dashkal> I have no expectation of seing ed. I'd just like something a little heavier than edit

L1364[22:15:41] <Dashkal> erm, of seing vim*

L1365[22:15:43] <Dashkal> wire cross

L1366[22:16:05] <lperkins2> I have a scheme to lua translator and a python to lua translator, but neither one comes with anything resembling a standard library,

L1367[22:16:14] <Dashkal> As it is, I'm looking into a sync solution so I can just use notepad++

L1368[22:16:48] <lperkins2> Yeah, I could probably throw up an Ace editor for my players on my website...

L1369[22:17:08] <lperkins2> If it could run C code, I'd be able to port nano and what not.

L1370[22:17:34] <Dashkal> It can run C code with some effort, though you'd have to write a terminal interface of some sort.

L1371[22:17:36] <ShadowKatStudios> C is too low-level to play friendly with the components, though

L1372[22:17:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Well

L1373[22:18:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Unless you had an interface of some kind

L1374[22:18:14] <Dashkal> nano itself would not port easily. You'd be swapping out ncurses for something that drives a gpu

L1375[22:18:24] <lperkins2> If it can run C, I'll build the standard library.

L1376[22:18:33] <Dashkal> I strongly suspect it'd be less effort to port nano to lua

L1377[22:18:40] <lperkins2> nano doesn't strictly *require* ncurses...

L1378[22:19:38] <lperkins2> besides, writing a layer to allow ncurses to drive the screen would be the best solution anyway.

L1379[22:19:59] <lperkins2> How do you run C on them?

L1380[22:20:19] <Negi> lperkins2: Custom architectures.

L1381[22:20:34] <Negi> You need to play around with Java/Scala.

L1382[22:20:50] <Negi> Can't give more details though, I never understood anything to the other side <_>

L1383[22:21:07] <Dashkal> I'm hoping to poke the arch stuff with a stick this coming weekend.

L1384[22:21:17] <Dashkal> My first impression is that it's pretty slick.

L1385[22:21:36] <Negi> Well of course if you can implement other languages and stuff.

L1386[22:22:29] <Dashkal> A C interface would qualify as that :P

L1387[22:22:50] <Negi> I know

L1388[22:22:56] <lperkins2> So is it actually emulating something resembling hardware?

L1389[22:22:58] <Negi> I know what are architectures about.

L1390[22:23:21] <Dashkal> I admit a 6502 emulation would be pretty cool *hides*

L1391[22:23:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Dashkal: Been done.

L1392[22:23:52] <Dashkal> Somehow I'm not surprised

L1393[22:24:04] <Negi> Wait now that I think about it.

L1394[22:24:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Talk to gamax92 about it, no idea where to download it from

L1395[22:24:17] <Negi> Has ANYONE yet used the architecture system to add stuff ?

L1396[22:24:39] <lperkins2> Or is it like CC where it just executes lua code in a sandbox using the standard lua 5.1 library?

L1397[22:24:39] <ShadowKatStudios> 6502

L1398[22:25:12] <Negi> lperkins2: Architectures are out of Lua. It's Java/Scala that manages that.

L1399[22:25:16] <Negi> Afaik.

L1400[22:25:32] <Negi> OC's Lua is an Architecture impl itself ?

L1401[22:25:41] <Negi> Can't really think straight right now.

L1402[22:26:01] <Sangar> yeah, luac and luaj are two architectures

L1403[22:26:36] <gamax92> whazzat?

L1404[22:27:20] <ShadowKatStudios> talkin 'bout your 6502 arch

L1405[22:27:23] <lperkins2> So if I add a C architecture, will it still properly handle state for me? Or is that part of the architecture that handles machine state saving and restoring...

L1406[22:27:34] <gamax92> oh that

L1407[22:27:49] <lperkins2> Hm, I wonder if my cc65 compiler would work with the 6502 arch for OC...

L1408[22:28:14] <Negi> gamax92: You /actually/ made a 6502 Architecture ?

L1409[22:28:29] <gamax92> yah

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L1411[22:28:42] <Sangar> persisting that will be your job, oc will just tell your arch to save it's state when necessary

L1412[22:28:46] <gamax92> https://github.com/gamax92/OCSymon

L1413[22:29:09] <lperkins2> What's the interface to peripherals like?

L1414[22:29:10] <gamax92> don't know if it works, or compiles, or has roms, or is updated

L1415[22:29:13] <gamax92> but ... its there

L1416[22:29:22] <Negi> Oh blutkers I have to compile it.

L1417[22:29:31] <gamax92> yeaaaah, sorry

L1418[22:29:35] <Negi> How do you even compile Minecraft mods ?

L1419[22:29:43] <gamax92> its very not finished

L1420[22:29:56] <lperkins2> Using eclipse, but my workspace is not set up in the approved fashion,

L1421[22:30:08] <gamax92> umm no?

L1422[22:30:11] <lperkins2> since I wanted to monkey with the internals of minecraft for speed optimizations.

L1423[22:30:14] <gamax92> ./gradlew build

L1424[22:30:16] <gamax92> no eclipse needed

L1425[22:30:19] <Dashkal> Hmm, when writing an arch, how does ram get involved? Assumption: I'm to query for ram components and adjust allowable space accordingly.

L1426[22:30:26] <Negi> Well gamax92 I don't know how to code, but I still can test stuff, so let's see HOW MUCH that isn't finished..

L1427[22:30:31] <lperkins2> True, right, eclipse for editing, gradlew for building.

L1428[22:30:32] <Negi> -.

L1429[22:30:50] <Negi> lperkins2: Anything works really, as long as you know what you're doing.

L1430[22:31:00] <Negi> Eclipse and IntelliJ just add facilities for it.

L1431[22:31:10] <ShadowKatStudios> vim

L1432[22:31:15] <gamax92> Negi: its a complete 6502

L1433[22:31:18] <Negi> subl

L1434[22:31:20] <lperkins2> Right, and handle library search paths and lots of other stuff that I hate about java :)

L1435[22:31:33] <gamax92> just haven't tested the signals devices, components devices, or the bank switching

L1436[22:31:57] <Negi> lperkins2: I had fun creating a markup language and writing a parser for it, do you think anything can be boring at that level ?

L1437[22:32:04] <lperkins2> Alright, I gotta go to work, I'll probably fork ocsymon tonight and see if I can either get it running well or maybe add a new architecture.

L1438[22:32:10] <Sangar> Dashkal, http://git.io/bClllw atm. thinking of deprecating that, and remove the actual mention of memory sizes from ram tooltips *if* other archs pop up that would use much different sizes (e.g. low-level archs that wouldn't need more than 64k), to allow the arch interpreting that as it likes.

L1439[22:32:34] <Negi> Tbh I don't even know what I'm getting into, gamax92, it just sounds close to a real-world architecture and that is awesome. Plus 6502 rings a bell.

L1440[22:32:45] <Techokami> man, my Jabba fork repo is attracting derps who are trying to submit localization PRs

L1441[22:32:56] <ShadowKatStudios> 6502 = Apple ][, C64, Acorn stuff...

L1442[22:32:57] <lperkins2> 6502 was the main processor specification for the old comodore64 computers

L1443[22:33:04] <Kodos> Sangar, any hints as to upcoming features for OC? Obviously I don't expect anything soon, but something to look forward to would be great =D

L1444[22:33:07] <lperkins2> And the comodore 65, for which I have a C compiler.

L1445[22:33:09] <Dashkal> Sangar: mmm. A thought. A higher level query for ram, and alternate access to the configured values so we can scale as appropriate.

L1446[22:33:11] <Negi> Oh yuss

L1447[22:33:21] <Dashkal> by higher level I mean getting told the sticks and tiers (and maybe the case?)

L1448[22:33:24] <Negi> I knew that I knew this name.

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L1450[22:33:53] <Sangar> Kodos, 1.8 port, somewhen this year :P

L1451[22:33:58] <gamax92> There's also an extremely limited terminal implemented, so the standard asic (which is how the default rom gets input/output) still works

L1452[22:34:00] <Dashkal> I can conceieve of pathological cases where I'd want to run with no ram. Run entirely in the 'l2'.

L1453[22:34:02] <gamax92> cba to port JTerminal

L1454[22:34:05] <Kodos> Ew, you're actually going into 1.8?

L1455[22:34:09] <Sangar> Dashkal, yeah, that's the idea basically. you can already do that by manually checking the components

L1456[22:34:13] * Dashkal nods

L1457[22:34:14] <Negi> Wow dangit I'm starting to not feel my hands anymore.

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L1459[22:34:16] <Dashkal> Which works

L1460[22:34:17] <Kodos> Just watched a lengthy discussion with KL about staying in 1.7.10

L1461[22:34:42] <Sangar> it'd just be unintuitive because the tooltips wouldn't reflect the different size interpretation :P

L1462[22:34:42] <Techokami> oh god a 1.8 port sounds painful. Or did Forge finally provide a solution to the death of connected textures that Minecraft put in 1.8?

L1463[22:34:43] <Dashkal> Though there's nothing evil about helpers for common component queries.

L1464[22:34:48] <Kodos> Techokami, nope

L1465[22:35:06] <Dashkal> Possible solution: In the arch implementation, you get a chance to "rewrite" arch dependant tooltips.

L1466[22:35:16] <Dashkal> Default being to just show tier.

L1467[22:35:16] <lperkins2> Hm, it's been like 3 years, so I can't find the thread with the information on the old redpower2 C compiler...

L1468[22:35:23] <Techokami> so, how would you do multi-block screens in OC on 1.8?

L1469[22:35:28] <lperkins2> RP2 used an extended 6502,

L1470[22:35:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm confused, what did Mojang do to textures?

L1471[22:35:45] <Negi> Dashkal: I have no idea how would that appear to the player.

L1472[22:35:53] <Sangar> Techokami, like this: http://i.imgur.com/EHQeNz3.png

L1473[22:36:08] <Techokami> ShadowKatStudios, they ... SANGAR WHAT

L1474[22:36:10] <Techokami> HOW

L1475[22:36:23] <Dashkal> Negi: No change to the player. Just that behind the scenes things that want arch specific details (like ram displaying size) can only show those parts when in the context of an archetecture (that is, in a compuer case with a Lua cpu in it)

L1476[22:36:27] <ShadowKatStudios> sangar is +12 at modding

L1477[22:36:30] <Sangar> ISmartBlockModel and many lookup tables :P

L1478[22:36:30] <lperkins2> Um, or just leave the memory modules as they are, 1M or memory per card isn't too bad.

L1479[22:36:36] <Techokami> aha

L1480[22:36:39] <Negi> Dashkal: That's not what I meant.

L1481[22:36:41] <lperkins2> Just need a way to add more of them.

L1482[22:36:53] <Techokami> because in 1.8, every block state needs its own model file now

L1483[22:37:08] <Techokami> because rendering logic was separated from game logic

L1484[22:37:16] <Negi> If you have more than one architecture in a game, then how do you plan to find out which arch info to use ?

L1485[22:37:38] <Techokami> Negi: implementation of a different CPU item to craft

L1486[22:37:39] <lperkins2> I'd do it based on processor.

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L1488[22:37:56] <Sangar> you can pass pseudo states to your ISmartBlockModels though (called 'unlisted properties'). that way you can pass along the tile entity itself if you want (which is what i'm doing)

L1489[22:38:01] <lperkins2> The current processors are lua-chip processors.

L1490[22:38:13] <Dashkal> Negi: "can only show those parts when in the context of an archetecture" Put the ram into a case with a lua cpu in it, and you get ram info for lua.

L1491[22:38:25] <Techokami> well damn, this might un-kill all the cosmetic mods. Kudos, Sangar!

L1492[22:38:27] <Dashkal> Just on its own, the tooltip would tell you to do just that.

L1493[22:38:50] <Sangar> Negi, if you register your arch, you can use it by cycling an oc cpu's arch by shift-rightclicking it while in hand

L1494[22:38:58] <Sangar> or use an own cpu item ofc

L1495[22:39:06] <Negi> Ah but that's not what I meant.

L1496[22:39:07] <gamax92> OC Symon has a new cpu item

L1497[22:39:33] <Dashkal> I'll almost certainly go with the polymorphic cpu thing. Probably just jam it into rhino to get an intial test done.

L1498[22:39:44] <lperkins2> Looks like someone forked the CC65 compiler to github, I don't know if it is the same one I helped port or not, but here it is.

L1499[22:39:44] <lperkins2> https://github.com/nooga/rpc8ecc

L1500[22:39:47] <Negi> Dashkal was discussing about showing custom ram amounts on ram stick items depending on the arch the current computer case uses/the current CPU is.

L1501[22:40:19] <lperkins2> Right, but why do the different arches need different sizes of memory sticks?

L1502[22:40:31] <Negi> lperkins2: Some wouldn't need 4MB of RAM.

L1503[22:40:32] <Techokami> lperkins2, sadly there is not an open source implementation of eloraam's custom extended 6502 to use

L1504[22:40:35] <lperkins2> Who not simply allow creating larger memory stick?

L1505[22:40:37] <Negi> And some wouldn't even start to run with taht.

L1506[22:40:40] <Negi> that*

L1507[22:40:42] <Dashkal> The concept of 'bytes' may not even apply the same way.

L1508[22:40:48] <Negi> That too

L1509[22:40:52] <gamax92> Techokami: BigFoot's emulator doesn't count?

L1510[22:41:07] <Techokami> *afaik

L1511[22:41:17] <gamax92> http://bigfootinformatika.hu/65el02/emu65el02_v0.12_src.zip

L1512[22:41:30] <lperkins2> Right, but if it is the same one I worked on, it also supports standard 6502 as a target.

L1513[22:41:46] <Techokami> oho

L1514[22:42:05] <lperkins2> It took some work to get it to build the cross-compile toolchain and what not, hence why you wouldn't want to go back to the raw CC65.

L1515[22:42:29] <lperkins2> And it supports 65c02, which the comodore 65 (as opposed to the comodore64) used.

L1516[22:42:42] <lperkins2> IIRC, it added 16bit mode.

L1517[22:42:57] <ShadowKatStudios> 65816 had 16-bit mode

L1518[22:43:32] <ShadowKatStudios> 64c02 might have added instructions, but had no 16-bit mode only a CMOS re-implimentation

L1519[22:43:50] <Techokami> because 65816 is a 16-bit CPU (with a 16-bit address bus, unless you did some dirty tricks with the data lines)

L1520[22:44:06] <lperkins2> Right, okay, the CC65 also supports 65816,

L1521[22:44:16] <lperkins2> basically all the 6502 family of processors,

L1522[22:44:28] <ShadowKatStudios> wait, 65816 was 16-bit with 8-bit mode

L1523[22:44:44] <lperkins2> but like I said, it took us a couple weeks to get the compiler to compile,

L1524[22:45:23] <Negi> Wulp I think I'll be going to sleep before it even started building.

L1525[22:46:00] <Techokami> SKS, yes it has a fallback mode that is code compatible with 6502, but not pinout compatible

L1526[22:46:16] <Negi> Why do I have german music that is actually anime OST in my youtube history ?

L1527[22:46:28] <Techokami> it's what allowed the Apple IIGS to use Apple ][ software

L1528[22:46:30] <Negi> Why is Kill La Kill's main antagonist's theme ?

L1529[22:46:37] <ShadowKatStudios> s/fallback/compat

L1530[22:46:37] <Kibibyte> <Techokami> SKS, yes it has a compat mode that is code compatible with 6502, but not pinout compatible

L1531[22:46:52] <Techokami> herp

L1532[22:46:57] <lperkins2> Anyway, I gotta go to work, toodles!

L1533[22:46:59] <Techokami> I ARE THINKY

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L1535[22:47:51] * Negi yawns.

L1536[22:47:55] <Negi> Dangit that's long.

L1537[22:48:30] <Negi> gamax92: What's the OC version you used for dev ?

L1538[22:48:52] <gamax92> .-. i don't know

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L1540[22:49:08] <gamax92> what ever one was available when it was november 1

L1541[22:49:15] <Negi> I'll try em all with the technique of the "if i fits i sits".

L1542[22:49:30] <gamax92> Negi: i probably need to port it to oc 1.4

L1543[22:49:39] <Techokami> unless Sangar mucked with the API, anything from the OC 1.4 branch should work

L1544[22:49:45] <Techokami> *SHOULD*

L1545[22:49:55] * Sangar whistles innocently

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L1548[22:50:00] <ShadowKatStudios> "should"

L1549[22:50:17] <Techokami> lemme see if I can sledge a build together

L1550[22:50:24] <gamax92> Negi: "li.cil.oc:OpenComputers:MC1.7.10-1.4.0.173-dev:dev"

L1551[22:50:29] <gamax92> is whats listed in the build.gradle

L1552[22:50:43] <Negi> It should work then.

L1553[22:51:01] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: When you put that in quotes I feel like you're quoting a RFC.

L1554[22:51:18] <Negi> "Building 3%" GR8.

L1555[22:51:32] <Techokami> "pile"

L1556[22:52:00] <Techokami> got a build made, anyone want a binary because lazy?

L1557[22:52:08] <gamax92> sure

L1558[22:52:13] <Techokami> aight

L1559[22:52:27] <gamax92> my jdk is outdated anyway

L1560[22:52:33] <gamax92> and this is windows

L1561[22:53:07] <Techokami> http://files.holenet.info/OC-Symon-1.0.jar haven't tested it

L1562[22:54:01] <Negi> Techokami ;-;

L1563[22:54:39] <Techokami> '3'

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L1565[22:55:36] <Negi> My "Testing" instance will be perfect for such a thing.

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L1567[22:57:37] <Sangar> so

L1568[22:57:48] <Sangar> i did some bandwidth testing for the last hour or so

L1569[22:58:10] <Sangar> i may have been somewhat too paranoid >_> guess i'll crank up the gpu call limits a little

L1570[22:58:18] <Techokami> oooh

L1571[22:58:32] <Sangar> not sure how far, yet, though

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L1573[22:59:18] <Negi> IT LIVES

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L1575[22:59:32] <Techokami> it needs a BIOS

L1576[22:59:36] <Techokami> :V

L1577[23:00:04] <gamax92> Techokami: did i not put one in .-.

L1578[23:00:13] <Techokami> for the EEPROM item?

L1579[23:00:19] <gamax92> oh ...

L1580[23:00:21] <gamax92> that ...

L1581[23:00:22] <Negi> Techokami: It doesn't need one.

L1582[23:00:23] <gamax92> umm ...

L1583[23:00:31] <Negi> It works without it :3c

L1584[23:00:34] <gamax92> shit i did not think about that.

L1585[23:00:43] <Negi> CRASH !

L1586[23:00:47] <Negi> \o/

L1587[23:00:50] <Negi> It happens.

L1588[23:00:59] <Aedda> How would it work without one? I'm confused.

L1589[23:01:04] <Negi> Tried to turn off the computer and it made the game crash.

L1590[23:01:07] <gamax92> lol

L1591[23:01:11] <Techokami> oops

L1592[23:01:14] <Negi> Aedda: EEPROMs are managed by the arch.

L1593[23:01:19] <Negi> Just as almost everything.

L1594[23:01:23] <gamax92> so uhh, i should probably make the roms eeproms

L1595[23:01:28] <gamax92> and then map the eeproms into the memory map

L1596[23:01:29] <Negi> So if your arch can boot without it, *shrugs*

L1597[23:01:31] <Techokami> yeah

L1598[23:01:51] <Techokami> that way if I want to replace your code with, say, the Woz monitor

L1599[23:01:58] <Aedda> Oh, is this alternate arch public? I've been looking for an example of one, even the most basic.

L1600[23:01:58] <Techokami> I totally could

L1601[23:02:01] <gamax92> wait how big are the eeproms Sangar?

L1602[23:02:05] <Techokami> 4KB

L1603[23:02:11] <Negi> I love how OC's CPUs are PGA and Symon is a DIP, but they fit in the same slot.

L1604[23:02:16] <Techokami> but in the config you can make 'em bigger

L1605[23:02:17] <gamax92> and how big are Symon's roms :X

L1606[23:02:20] <Negi> *squeezes DIP into PGA*

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L1608[23:02:51] <Negi> gamax92: No idea.

L1609[23:03:00] <Negi> But I don't know if 4KB will be enough.

L1610[23:03:05] <gamax92> probably not.

L1611[23:03:22] <Techokami> Symon is 16KB :E

L1612[23:03:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Negi: A sufficient amount of wire wrap single inline sockets will give you a PGA capible of holding a 68060

L1613[23:03:43] <gamax92> Aedda: https://github.com/gamax92/OC-Example-Architecture or https://github.com/gamax92/OCSymon

L1614[23:03:58] <Techokami> you could make your own EEPROM item with a bigger capacity

L1615[23:04:11] <gamax92> one is a dummy arch that does nothing at all, and one is a poorly written one that ignores callback limits

L1616[23:04:14] <Aedda> Thank you gamax92, once again :)

L1617[23:04:25] <Negi> Techokami: Yeah but then people could use the mod to have bigger EEPROMs.

L1618[23:04:31] <Negi> Or you make it just a ROM.

L1619[23:04:34] <Kodos> Kids, this is what happens when you duckface too hard http://i.imgur.com/0m2QPlb.jpg

L1620[23:04:47] <Negi> Meh that would cause problems

L1621[23:04:55] <Techokami> I said EEPROM item but it doesn't have to be EEP

L1622[23:05:00] <Negi> Idk I'm not supposed to think at 00:04

L1623[23:05:07] <ShadowKatStudios> eep

L1624[23:05:13] <Negi> eep

L1625[23:05:22] <Negi> electronically eraseable-programmable.

L1626[23:05:44] <Negi> Anyway good night all of the people who're still doing stuff

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L1628[23:05:56] <gamax92> Techokami: *whistles innocently*

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L1630[23:10:16] <Sangar> here's the current state of affairs regarding gpu/screen caused bandwidth usage, if anyone wants to verify my results: http://git.io/pvZe4g

L1631[23:13:40] <Techokami> ffffffffff that last test

L1632[23:14:22] <Sangar> yes

L1633[23:14:27] <Sangar> it's not a typo

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L1635[23:14:34] <Techokami> Tier 3 OC caps at ~8.7KB/s, CC is ~200KB/s MINIMUM

L1636[23:14:56] <gamax92> I would say thats absurd, but ... OC caps the speed really really low

L1637[23:16:15] <Techokami> you could increase the speed probably tenfold and it'd still be a third of CC's best when at its worst

L1638[23:16:48] <gamax92> okay, Sangar wanna test that? :3

L1639[23:18:08] <Sangar> bumping the values and doing some more testing is next :P

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L1641[23:18:30] <lperkins2> Hm, JPC provides an x86 emulator in java and is open source...

L1642[23:18:39] <lperkins2> I wonder if it could be used as a target...

L1643[23:20:14] <gamax92> with a bit of wrappers, sure.

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L1645[23:22:55] <lperkins2> Runs dos and DSL, would need to write an x11 driver for OC screens to get X going...

L1646[23:23:08] <lperkins2> Might be able to put gentoo on it :-P

L1647[23:24:25] <TabletCube> lperkins2: dat compiling doe

L1648[23:24:26] <Aedda> Sangar: Are you automatically notified of new comments in issues?

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L1650[23:24:45] <Sangar> Aedda, yes

L1651[23:25:02] <Aedda> Cool, then I leave the rest to you whenever you have time, etc. :)

L1652[23:25:16] <lperkins2> That's what distcc is for :)

L1653[23:25:17] <Sangar> aye ^^

L1654[23:25:34] <lperkins2> Besides, it actually looks like it is reasonable efficient at it.

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L1656[23:30:36] <lperkins2> Hm, only 4MB of source for it, question is if there is a decent entry point for using it inside another java project...

L1657[23:30:58] <gamax92> >x11 driver for OC Screens

L1658[23:30:59] <gamax92> hahahahahahaha

L1659[23:31:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Damn it 4chan, mind not uploading pictures that use all my CPU scaling them to fit my screen?

L1660[23:31:28] <Dashkal> Should come out about as well as trying to use X11 over dialup

L1661[23:32:02] <lperkins2> Heh, just means you need to decrease the resolution...

L1662[23:32:16] <lperkins2> 4px by 3px

L1663[23:32:20] <ShadowKatStudios> 160x100 screen over dialup?

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L1666[23:33:22] <lperkins2> Well, at 56kbps, that's 7KBps,

L1667[23:33:52] <lperkins2> Or 2389 pixles updated per second maximum...

L1668[23:33:57] <gamax92> do you know how long it takes to put a 160x100 image on the screen?

L1669[23:34:13] <ShadowKatStudios> #Lua 160*100

L1670[23:34:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 16000

L1671[23:34:21] <gamax92> ... sks :P

L1672[23:34:33] <ShadowKatStudios> oh wait

L1673[23:34:38] <ShadowKatStudios> add 2 zeroes

L1674[23:35:13] <lperkins2> So at 30Hz, you'd be limited to 80 pixles of screen for real-time rendering via dialup.

L1675[23:35:15] <ShadowKatStudios> never mind me, my lack of sleep is catching up to me

L1676[23:35:47] <lperkins2> At 1 Hz, you'd be able to have a 50x50 pixel display.

L1677[23:36:04] <gamax92> .-. what are you saying.

L1678[23:36:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Well

L1679[23:36:18] <ShadowKatStudios> if you had non-fullscreen windows

L1680[23:36:32] <ShadowKatStudios> You could get 1FPS for a 50x50 display

L1681[23:36:33] <gamax92> lemme go find my old image drawing code.

L1682[23:36:40] <lperkins2> Someone was saying to try and use dialup for a 160x100 pixle screen.

L1683[23:36:52] <lperkins2> At 56kbps,

L1684[23:37:03] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: how well does ext2fsd works btw

L1685[23:37:06] <lperkins2> I was calculating the framerate if you're using a raw format.

L1686[23:37:39] <lperkins2> (3 bytes per pixel per frame), you could encode it to only send changed pixels, which would help, but not much.

L1687[23:37:54] <ShadowKatStudios> gamax92: Read works fine, if a little slow, not game to try write, last time I used write on a non-native FS type it royally screwed over the FD

L1688[23:37:56] <ShadowKatStudios> FS

L1689[23:38:32] <Stary2001> haha

L1690[23:38:35] <lperkins2> If I do get linux going inside JPC inside OC, I'll probably see how hard it is to write a wayland driver, better than X11 for this sort of thing.

L1691[23:38:47] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: I can't use that because I'm a special LVM snowflake.

L1692[23:38:48] <Stary2001> :p

L1693[23:38:48] <ShadowKatStudios> lperkins2: If it was all black and white, you could write whole lines

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L1695[23:39:36] <lperkins2> True, but even going to greyscale would kill it, you'd get 240 pixles instead of 80...

L1696[23:39:44] <gamax92> so uhh, i got my video card

L1697[23:39:47] <lperkins2> You could also I suppose use 8 bit colour,

L1698[23:39:50] <gamax92> just came in

L1699[23:39:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> what did you get?

L1700[23:40:10] <gamax92> NVidia Geforce GTX 650

L1701[23:40:12] <ShadowKatStudios> inb4 980 ti

L1702[23:40:15] <gamax92> nope

L1703[23:40:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Only a 650? Not even a 660?

L1704[23:40:32] <gamax92> #BlameSangar

L1705[23:40:44] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I have a gtx 660, it is pretty good

L1706[23:41:00] <Stary2001> i have a 620

L1707[23:41:03] <Stary2001> its 10/10 ok

L1708[23:41:18] <ShadowKatStudios> I intend to get a 660 at some point, mainly so I can later get a second 660 and SLI it

L1709[23:41:27] <gamax92> well i have a problem

L1710[23:41:35] <gamax92> i don't have a DVI - VGA adapter

L1711[23:42:00] <Caitlyn> I've got this pretty little thing picked out http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125684

L1712[23:42:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Yay, someone else still using VGA

L1713[23:42:17] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I have to use VGA on some of my monitors

L1714[23:42:28] <lperkins2> Actually, all I'd have to do is adapt the PCMonitor class from JPC to output to the monitor directly, no new x11 driver needed at all...

L1715[23:42:36] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Caitlyn: mind if i steal it once you have it?

L1716[23:42:44] <Caitlyn> Yeah I mind.. sorry

L1717[23:42:45] <lperkins2> If I could find the entry point I'd be set.

L1718[23:43:32] <lperkins2> The documentation is pretty much nil...

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L1720[23:44:29] <Caitlyn> I DO however have to get 2.. lol

L1721[23:44:45] <gamax92> well imma look around my boxes to see if i have one

L1722[23:44:49] <gamax92> i know i used to have one.

L1723[23:45:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Caitlyn: Not enough DVI for me

L1724[23:45:53] <ShadowKatStudios> And 0 VGA

L1725[23:45:55] <ShadowKatStudios> :/

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L1727[23:46:15] <Caitlyn> DVI->VGA Adapters ftw.

L1728[23:46:26] <gamax92> ^^^

L1729[23:46:29] <ShadowKatStudios> But then I still only have two monitors

L1730[23:46:43] <gamax92> i should also put away some of the stuff in these boxes

L1731[23:46:46] <gamax92> :P

L1732[23:46:56] <lperkins2> Ha! found the main class.

L1733[23:47:11] <lperkins2> Now I can figure out how it all works.

L1734[23:47:23] <Caitlyn> http://www.computercablestore.com/Displayport_to_VGA_Video__PID51055.aspx

L1735[23:47:24] <Caitlyn> BAM

L1736[23:49:17] <ShadowKatStudios> wtf is Displayport?

L1737[23:49:48] <Caitlyn> ...

L1738[23:49:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> it is the best

L1739[23:50:02] <lperkins2> Oof, gonna take a lot; basically have to adapt most of the hardware classes to point to OC components,

L1740[23:50:08] <Caitlyn> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort

L1741[23:50:43] <gamax92> lperkins2: i warned you.

L1742[23:50:45] <gamax92> i think.

L1743[23:50:49] <lperkins2> after that though, it basically is a matter of calling new PC(clock, drives), and then starting and stopping it in segments.

L1744[23:51:40] <lperkins2> Somewhat complex, but at the same time, it should be modular enough to be manageable, if I'm careful I should be able to do it without needing to modify OC or JPC code directly. I think I can just extend both of them.

L1745[23:51:43] <Caitlyn> Some display port specifications even support daisychaining

L1746[23:52:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i like how the 970 there has 3 displayport on it

L1747[23:52:12] <Caitlyn> http://www.displayport.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Blog-Post-Picture_Daisy-Chain.jpg

L1748[23:52:49] <Caitlyn> Yeah.. I don't think it can do daisy chaining

L1749[23:53:25] <lperkins2> So I suppose the first thing is to get both sets into my project namespace and not dying on launch...

L1750[23:55:07] <ShadowKatStudios> I just realised

L1751[23:55:19] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm not *capible* of totally focusing on something

L1752[23:55:28] <Aedda> will be back in some hours o/

L1753[23:56:23] <lperkins2> Hm, I think I need to bite the bullet and write a makefile for packaging my mods.

L1754[23:56:40] <lperkins2> It would avoid the fiasco of rm -r'ing my workspace again...

L1755[23:59:37] <gamax92> drats

L1756[23:59:41] <gamax92> i don't have the adapter