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L5[00:10:36] <Magik6k> ~w shell
L6[00:10:37] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:shell
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L15[00:35:54] *** SKS-Away is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L16[00:37:02] <ShadowKatStudios> o/
L17[00:41:15] <Ender> \o
L18[00:41:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Heading home as we speak.
L19[00:41:56] <Ender> \o/
L20[00:41:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Is lain still up?
L21[00:42:41] * Ender shrugs
L22[00:43:06] <Ender> Linux lain.shadowkat.tk 3.2.0-4-486 #1 Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u1 i686
L23[00:43:08] <Ender> yup
L24[00:43:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Yay
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L26[00:46:07] <ShadowKatStudios> TabletCube: ping?
L27[00:46:44] <ShadowKatStudios> \o/
L28[00:47:09] *** AtomSponge is now known as AtomSponge|away
L29[00:51:46] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: hai
L30[00:51:56] * TabletCube has missed you
L31[00:52:07] <ShadowKatStudios> hai :D
L32[00:52:45] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: how are you?
L33[00:53:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Dead. You?
L34[00:53:38] <TabletCube> Fine.
L35[00:54:58] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: why u gone?
L36[00:55:46] <Ender> he had to spend a week with muggles
L37[00:56:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, I spent a week at a folk festival, listening to live musiv and eating spiral potatoes
L38[00:56:18] <TabletCube> ...did it suck
L39[00:56:42] <ShadowKatStudios> mostly
L40[00:57:27] <TabletCube> No wifi? No 3G?
L41[00:57:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I got a wizard hat, and last night was the fire event, though
L42[00:57:50] <ShadowKatStudios> No electricity
L43[00:58:20] <Inari> anyone know which mod or server issue causes OC screens to go blank when you relog?
L44[00:59:05] <Ender> Inari: Minecraft, probably
L45[00:59:22] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ...
L46[00:59:28] <TabletCube> why
L47[00:59:31] <Inari> well it worked on my server that only has OC and baubles and 2 othe rmods :P but theres some server where it breaks on
L48[00:59:38] <Inari> Ender: how does MC cuase that? D:
L49[00:59:43] <ShadowKatStudios> You could pay $5 to charge your phone, which I did, but the cable was fscked
L50[01:00:15] <Ender> Inari: it's minecraft, it makes it's own rules
L51[01:00:32] <Inari> :p
L52[01:00:32] <ShadowKatStudios> TabletCube: Got dr
L53[01:01:04] <ShadowKatStudios> agged along by my hippie family
L54[01:01:37] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: i should totally ask my ISP was 'socially acceptable' means
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L57[01:02:36] <TabletCube> Guess why.
L58[01:02:55] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ^
L59[01:03:09] <ShadowKatStudios> EULA?
L60[01:03:16] <TabletCube> Yesss.
L61[01:03:31] <TabletCube> what kind of eula thing?
L62[01:03:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Stupid one?
L63[01:04:00] <TabletCube> yes
L64[01:04:44] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: you should read the sky t&cs at some point
L65[01:04:58] <TabletCube> There's some fairly stupid bits
L66[01:05:19] <ShadowKatStudios> ie?
L67[01:05:52] <TabletCube> Can't copypaste well on tablet because they PDF'd it
L68[01:06:02] <TabletCube> want link though?
L69[01:06:39] <ShadowKatStudios> 2G
L70[01:06:45] <ShadowKatStudios> later
L71[01:07:04] <TabletCube> ....2G? Wow
L72[01:07:24] <ShadowKatStudios> (Yes, I am using 2G. Saves battery)
L73[01:07:45] * Ender cant use 2G, his network is 3G + only
L74[01:08:00] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: there are at least 3 clauses which taken literally, could lead to interesting results
L75[01:08:13] <Inari> 8G
L76[01:09:04] <ShadowKatStudios> There is one carrier with 4G in Australia.
L77[01:09:08] <Ender> by 3G + i mean 3G and 4G
L78[01:09:09] <TabletCube> A network includes devices behind a NAT router right?
L79[01:09:12] <v^> only one _>
L80[01:09:27] <Ender> TabletCube: technically, yes
L81[01:09:28] <v^> TabletCube, yes
L82[01:10:01] <TabletCube> One of the clauses state you can't connect insecure devices to their network.
L83[01:10:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes, 4G = Telstra = evil^2
L84[01:10:31] <v^> pfffft ^2
L85[01:10:38] <v^> .calc 128^128
L86[01:10:38] <^v> v^, http://71.238.153.166/paste/fLdvq.txt
L87[01:10:48] <v^> .calc 528294531135665246352339784916516606518847326036121522127960709026673902556724859474417255887657187894674394993257128678882347559502685537250538978462939576908386683999005084168731517676426441053024232908211188404148028292751561738838396898767036476489538580897737998336
L88[01:10:48] <v^> ^2
L89[01:10:48] <^v> v^, http://71.238.153.166/paste/O8Ufw.txt
L90[01:10:50] <v^> fail
L91[01:10:56] <TabletCube> do y'all see the issue with such a clause?
L92[01:11:07] <Ender> TabletCube, yup. windows
L93[01:11:09] <v^> TabletCube, yes
L94[01:11:13] *** Lathanael is now known as Lathanael|Away
L95[01:11:21] <ShadowKatStudios> TC: so nothing with a CPU?
L96[01:11:35] <v^> their network IS insecure devices
L97[01:11:54] <Ender> the entire internet is insecure devices to some extent
L98[01:12:11] <TabletCube> There's also the fact that no device can really be 'secure'
L99[01:12:49] *** LordFokas|off is now known as LordFokas
L100[01:13:07] <Ender> TabletCube, yeah, only guaranteed (that probably isnt spelt right) security is to not be on the internet
L101[01:13:14] <Ender> o/ LordFokas
L102[01:13:20] <LordFokas> \o
L103[01:13:40] <TabletCube> Should I quote the text itself here?
L104[01:14:01] <Ender> sure, as long as it's not to lengthy
L105[01:14:46] <ShadowKatStudios> nothing with a CPU then?
L106[01:15:32] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: basically
L107[01:16:33] <Kodos> Well
L108[01:16:35] <Kodos> Since my pack is busted
L109[01:16:38] <Kodos> I guess I'm just gonna do a small OC pack
L110[01:16:52] <Kodos> I've been working on fixing it since last year (Huehue)
L111[01:17:08] <TabletCube> ' You must not connect Sky’s networks to insecure machines, equipment or services able to be exploited by others to carry out actions which constitute a breach of this AUP. If you do, you must disconnect it immediately, or allow us to disconnect it for you at your expense'
L112[01:17:32] <Kodos> lolwat
L113[01:17:47] <v^> able to be exploited by others
L114[01:18:00] <Ender> ^v, everything?
L115[01:18:00] <^v> Ender, You may rely on it
L116[01:18:03] <Ender> :)
L117[01:18:12] <v^> well shit
L118[01:18:26] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ^
L119[01:18:33] <v^> technically i could use an ethernet cable to damage their things
L120[01:18:37] <v^> ._.
L121[01:19:07] <TabletCube> Want more stupid shit from the T&C's?
L122[01:19:18] <ShadowKatStudios> mmm ok
L123[01:19:36] <Ender> sure
L124[01:21:14] <TabletCube> ' You acknowledge that it is your responsibility to obtain any upgrades to any software needed to maintain the full Sky Broadband service when prompted to do so. '
L125[01:21:58] <TabletCube> So, does that mean they get to tell me to install any arbitrary program?
L126[01:22:18] <ShadowKatStudios> yep
L127[01:22:41] <TabletCube> Multiplatform nightmare much.
L128[01:22:43] <Nirek> you can dig into almost any service/program's eula/tos and find bits of hilariously unenforcable mess.
L129[01:24:02] <TabletCube> ' Your Wireless Router (except the software in it) will become your property on delivery. The software in your Wireless Router and in any other equipment provided to you by Sky or on its behalf for use in conjunction with Sky Broadband is owned by or licensed to Sky or another member of the British Sky Broadcasting group. You must allow this software to be updated. Updates will happen automatically at no extra charge.'
L130[01:24:42] <TabletCube> Says nothing about replacing their firmware though :)
L131[01:24:59] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ^
L132[01:25:28] <ShadowKatStudios> heh
L133[01:25:43] <TabletCube> If only I knew how
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L135[01:26:16] <Ender> TabletCube, more if you had the tools of which to do so, possibly
L136[01:26:32] <TabletCube> Ender: I have the tools.
L137[01:26:42] <ShadowKatStudios> PPPoE + desktop = router
L138[01:26:43] <TabletCube> I lack knowledge on using them.
L139[01:26:54] <Ender> i thought you couldnt compile it or somethiung?
L140[01:26:58] <TabletCube> s/oE/oA
L141[01:26:59] <Kibibyte> <ShadowKatStudios> PPPoA + desktop = router
L142[01:27:11] <TabletCube> Ender: the old firmware compiles
L143[01:27:17] <ShadowKatStudios> A?
L144[01:27:19] <TabletCube> The new one doesn't
L145[01:28:10] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: opinion of the mandatory updates?
L146[01:28:20] <ShadowKatStudios> PtP over ethernet using the existing router?
L147[01:29:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Just imagine if Windows made updates mandatory...
L148[01:30:11] <SuPeRMiNoR2> my windows would have some problems updating, no networking
L149[01:30:34] <ShadowKatStudios> xD
L150[01:31:53] <TabletCube> ' If you wish to use a modem or any other equipment that we have not supplied to you in order to access Sky Broadband we cannot guarantee that ADSL Sky Broadband will work with these. You must not use a modem or any other equipment that we have not supplied to you in order to access Sky Fibre Broadband'
L151[01:32:04] <TabletCube> Glad we have ADSL.
L152[01:33:22] <ShadowKatStudios> fuckers
L153[01:33:40] <TabletCube> That clause originally, back in 2007, said you must use their router. Obviously things change.
L154[01:34:30] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ^
L155[01:35:07] <ShadowKatStudios> :/
L156[01:35:37] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: and the official settings for custom routers
L157[01:36:09] <Ender> anyway, to bed
L158[01:36:27] <TabletCube> involve 'install@o2broadband' for the PPP user
L159[01:36:33] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ^
L160[01:36:52] <ShadowKatStudios> 10/10
L161[01:37:30] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: it says alot doesn't it?
L162[01:37:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Dodgy af?
L163[01:38:25] <TabletCube> No, they bought out o2broadband
L164[01:38:36] <TabletCube> so it's legit in that sense
L165[01:39:26] <ShadowKatStudios> *install@*
L166[01:39:48] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: google knows that ppp user
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L168[01:40:09] <TabletCube> type 'install@o' and watch it autocomplete
L169[01:41:01] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ^
L170[01:41:36] <ShadowKatStudios> 2G
L171[01:42:51] <TabletCube> You may not use Sky Broadband and/or the Sky’s networks to send, receive, store, distribute, transmit, post, upload or download any materials or data which:
L172[01:42:57] <TabletCube> <snip>
L173[01:43:29] <TabletCube> promotes or encourages illegal or socially unacceptable or irresponsible behaviour;
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L175[01:43:49] <TabletCube> <snip>
L176[01:44:06] <TabletCube> damages or may damage our name and/or reputation or the name and/or reputation of our sub-contractors or agents
L177[01:45:12] <ShadowKatStudios> wow
L178[01:45:34] <TabletCube> I'm not sure which clause is shittier.
L179[01:45:58] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: which do you think?
L180[01:46:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, freedom of piracy or freedom of speech, I guess.
L181[01:48:04] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: i wonder what their definition of socially unacceptable is
L182[01:48:28] <TabletCube> Since everyone has a different social circle with different norms
L183[01:49:00] <ShadowKatStudios> "Politically correct" I bet
L184[01:49:28] <Ender> See, its stuff like that which causes events in films like V for Vendetta
L185[01:49:45] <TabletCube> I wonder how much trouble actually enforcing it would cause
L186[01:50:17] <TabletCube> Espdcially with things like SSH tunnels, VPNs and SSL/TLS
L187[01:50:42] <Ender> Hey, speaking of SSH tunnels
L188[01:51:09] <Ender> s/Hey/heh
L189[01:51:09] <Kibibyte> <Ender> heh, speaking of SSH tunnels
L190[01:51:27] <TabletCube> What?
L191[01:51:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Are the OC lua bioses r/w?
L192[01:52:09] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: yes
L193[01:52:23] <Ender> Most of my internet traffic the last few days has gone though SSH SOCKS tunnels
L194[01:52:27] <TabletCube> They're just eeproms iirc
L195[01:53:00] <TabletCube> Ender: scared of people watching you?
L196[01:53:20] <TabletCube> or of censorship?
L197[01:53:28] <Ender> No, just felt like trying it and getting round blocks
L198[01:54:09] <Ender> Not that TPB has anything on its site at the moment
L199[01:54:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool, when I get home I'll dump the lua bios and change micrOS's structure
L200[01:54:33] *** tiin57_ is now known as tiin57
L201[01:54:40] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: want some more?
L202[01:55:06] <ShadowKatStudios> sure
L203[01:55:13] <TabletCube> On this basis, we recommend that you consider installing additional software on your computer to prevent access to inappropriate websites or content on the internet.
L204[01:55:21] <Ender> Also speaking of T&Cs I wonder what VM's like
L205[01:55:22] <ShadowKatStudios> got an hour to kill
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L207[01:55:58] <ShadowKatStudios> o.o
L208[01:56:50] <Ender> Someone needs to make a sort of "underground" network
L209[01:57:09] <TabletCube> You must not send, receive, store, distribute, transmit, post, upload or download any materials that are designed to violate Sky Network’s security or any third party’s system or network security. Examples of such prohibited material may include (but are not limited to):
L210[01:57:48] <TabletCube> programs containing viruses, worms, corrupted files, hoaxes, Trojan horses or any other items of a destructive or deceptive nature; • tools designed to compromise the security of other sites;
L211[01:58:02] <TabletCube> <snip>
L212[01:58:22] <TabletCube> programs or services designed to encourage or facilitate a breach of this AUP or any acceptable use policy of another internet services provider.
L213[01:58:23] <ShadowKatStudios> corrupted files?
L214[01:58:35] <Inari> a lot of those arnet exactly to be actively enforced anyway
L215[01:58:42] <Inari> more like to have something to point to in case trouble pops up
L216[01:59:02] <TabletCube> Inari: it would cause ... interesting consequences
L217[01:59:06] * Inari changes some random bits in a .exe and uploads it
L218[01:59:09] <Inari> im so evil
L219[01:59:32] <Inari> *bytes
L220[01:59:39] <TabletCube> You must not adapt, modify, decompile or reverse engineer any part of Sky Broadband
L221[01:59:47] <Ender> Inari, its okay as long as sky customers don't download it :P
L222[01:59:55] <Inari> haha
L223[01:59:55] <ShadowKatStudios> h4x!!!1!
L224[02:00:25] <TabletCube> The wireless router is ofc excluded somewhat because GPL
L225[02:01:04] <skyem123|zzz> Did you get the source code yet?
L226[02:01:39] <Ender> I should go to sleep
L227[02:02:04] <ShadowKatStudios> battery criticz
L228[02:02:18] <TabletCube> skyem123|zzz: source for latest firmware doesn't compile
L229[02:02:21] <ShadowKatStudios> ^Hally low
L230[02:02:54] <Ender> K, I'm off o/
L231[02:03:04] <TabletCube> idfk how to build an image from the compiled output of the older firmware
L232[02:03:32] <ShadowKatStudios> o/
L233[02:03:41] <TabletCube> skyem123|zzz: ShadowKatStudios ^
L234[02:04:11] *** Nentify is now known as Nentify|away
L235[02:05:20] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: also the sky js devs forgot the entire 127 /8 is loopback
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L237[02:05:35] <TabletCube> not just 127.0.0.1
L238[02:05:37] <ShadowKatStudios> gg
L239[02:06:06] <TabletCube> Could be used for a targeted LAN DoS.
L240[02:08:05] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: it has an option to reserve an IP for a specific MAC
L241[02:08:49] <TabletCube> Seeing as the checking is fail, you might get away with reserving an 127.x.x.x IP
L242[02:09:20] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ^
L243[02:10:10] <ShadowKatStudios> I need a proper lab
L244[02:11:04] <TabletCube> Why?
L245[02:11:19] <ShadowKatStudios> To test this
L246[02:12:23] *** Keridos is now known as Keridos_off
L247[02:13:47] <TabletCube> How?
L248[02:14:17] <TabletCube> You'd need a physical sky hub iirc, but not sure
L249[02:14:35] <ShadowKatStudios> ebay
L250[02:15:56] *** AngieBLD|Off is now known as AngieBLD
L251[02:16:11] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: delivery costs
L252[02:16:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I have $16.50!
L253[02:18:02] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: you know that sky charge £70 for customers 'upgrading' to the hub
L254[02:18:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I have $16.50!
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L256[02:20:00] <Kodos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
L257[02:20:00] -Kibibyte- [Kodos] -Yakety Sax- Music | by calebhudnall | 4m35s | 369w1d ago | 4,940,483 views | Rated: 4.94/5.00
L258[02:20:00] <TabletCube> And yet
L259[02:20:28] <TabletCube> I can get a router with many more features for under £30
L260[02:21:01] <ShadowKatStudios> yep
L261[02:21:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I can get a RPi for $35, PPPoE with that and you have a nice router
L262[02:22:13] <ShadowKatStudios> My router can do PPPoE :D
L263[02:22:29] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: In UK PPPoA > PPPoE for ADSL
L264[02:23:18] *** dsAway is now known as ds84182
L265[02:23:52] <TabletCube> Because reasons involving ATM
L266[02:24:11] <ShadowKatStudios> PPPoA?
L267[02:24:53] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: PPP over ATM
L268[02:25:36] <ShadowKatStudios> ;wa define PPPoA
L269[02:26:28] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: you know how PPPoE is PPP over ethernet?
L270[02:27:10] <ShadowKatStudios> mmm
L271[02:27:53] <TabletCube> PPPoA uses a different data link layer called ATM for short
L272[02:29:11] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ^ got that?
L273[02:29:34] <ShadowKatStudios> ye
L274[02:30:12] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ATM has 'cells' which are fixed-size
L275[02:30:47] <TabletCube> Can you web browse at all on 2g?
L276[02:32:24] <TabletCube> because there's a blogpost that explains it all better than me
L277[02:32:28] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: ^
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L284[03:50:43] <PotatoTrumpet> sO
L285[03:51:29] <PotatoTrumpet> i just got L4D 1&2, Saints Row IV, and some paint schemes for ETS2 for 20$
L286[03:51:45] <PotatoTrumpet> Steam Sales FTW
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L288[03:53:47] <dangranos> i got planetary annihilation, from the depths and space engineers
L289[03:55:10] <dangranos> wine is so fubar
L290[03:55:26] <dangranos> just tried installing net4.5
L291[03:55:54] <dangranos> it tried to remove mono, not found it and tried to install older versions
L292[03:58:10] <PotatoTrumpet> PA is awesome
L293[03:58:17] <PotatoTrumpet> SE is fanfuckingtastic
L294[03:58:44] <dangranos> PA is awesome, but it eats 6GB RAM
L295[03:59:23] <dangranos> its playable, even non-lagging, but chronocam froze my system
L296[04:00:03] <Kodos> Space Engineers just got C# Programmable Blocks
L297[04:00:11] <Kodos> Which has made me want to learn C#
L298[04:00:24] <Kodos> Because now I can have a proper computer core room
L299[04:01:56] * dangranos cant launch space engineers on linux
L300[04:02:37] <Inari> PotatoTrumpet: SE could be more interesting with proper tubes, liquuids, liquid tubing, more interesting reactors, more automation, oxygen, agrictulrue, etc xD
L301[04:03:24] <dangranos> its in dev
L302[04:03:35] <Inari> :p
L303[04:03:43] <dangranos> also, mods?
L304[04:03:44] <Inari> well the reactors are boring :D
L305[04:03:55] <Inari> didnt see mods adding that stuff so far i guess
L306[04:04:08] <dangranos> yet
L307[04:04:12] <Inari> the most weird thing is how they wont include shields
L308[04:04:26] <Inari> cause apparently thats not a realistic tehcnology
L309[04:04:28] <Inari> or something
L310[04:05:50] <PotatoTrumpet> Kodos, WHAT?!?!?!? WHY AM I JUST FINDING THIS OUT
L311[04:06:05] <PotatoTrumpet> was that in todays update?
L312[04:06:28] <Inari> PotatoTrumpet: its a mod
L313[04:06:34] <PotatoTrumpet> oh
L314[04:06:50] <dangranos> gravity shields?
L315[04:06:56] <Inari> dangranos: forcefield shields
L316[04:07:07] <PotatoTrumpet> Is it called OpenC#mputers?
L317[04:07:10] <Inari> for e.g. shielding agianst asteroids
L318[04:07:13] <dangranos> XD
L319[04:07:41] <dangranos> wait.. asteroids cant be affected by gravity?
L320[04:07:48] <Inari> maybe
L321[04:07:52] <Inari> but im talking about shields
L322[04:10:52] <PotatoTrumpet> omg
L323[04:10:56] <PotatoTrumpet> programingblocks
L324[04:10:59] <tiin57> :O
L325[04:10:59] <PotatoTrumpet> omgomgomg
L326[04:11:03] <PotatoTrumpet> timetolearnc#
L327[04:11:16] <PotatoTrumpet> #timetolearnC#
L328[04:11:46] <Inari> dangranos: i wouldnt evne care so much if they didnt trhow a stupid reason like "we dont see it being a feasible technology" or something
L329[04:11:53] <Inari> but hten they have gravity generators...y-yeah :p
L330[04:12:13] <dangranos> be quiet
L331[04:12:39] <dangranos> we dont want everything removed from game
L332[04:13:20] <dangranos> um, why did i copied iso from folder to which i had access?
L333[04:15:38] <PotatoTrumpet> #alsoknownasDb
L334[04:18:53] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: I still remember 2014
L335[04:18:59] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: Like it was just yesterday
L336[04:21:41] <v^> gamax92, shut the fuck up
L337[04:21:43] <v^> you know what
L338[04:21:51] <v^> you are no longer a faggot
L339[04:22:04] <v^> you dont have a iq large enough to have a sexual orientation
L340[04:22:16] <gamax92> /ignore v^ all
L341[04:22:18] <gamax92> kthx
L342[04:22:20] <gamax92> now shut the fuck up
L343[04:22:21] <gamax92> kthx
L344[04:22:35] <Inari> well 2014 was 2 days ago
L345[04:23:09] <dangranos> 2 and some hours
L346[04:24:28] <PotatoTrumpet> lol
L347[04:24:33] <Kodos> Inari, it's not a mod
L348[04:24:38] <Kodos> PotatoTrumpet, yes
L349[04:24:46] <bananagram> what's new?
L350[04:24:55] <PotatoTrumpet> Inari, 2014 was less then a day ago for me
L351[04:25:06] <Kodos> Not much, bananagram! How's Nanohack working for you
L352[04:25:09] <PotatoTrumpet> gamax92, DO YOU WANNA BUILD A FUCKING SNOWMAN?
L353[04:25:18] <bananagram> uh, I haven't tried it again yet
L354[04:25:29] <dangranos> installing windows 7 on vm
L355[04:25:32] <bananagram> I haven't logged into the server I ran it on in a few days
L356[04:25:36] <dangranos> hope that will work better than wine
L357[04:25:55] <bananagram> I need to type less or I'll develop RSI again
L358[04:26:01] <dangranos> server?
L359[04:26:09] <PotatoTrumpet> ~g
L360[04:26:14] <PotatoTrumpet> ~g C#
L361[04:26:16] <bananagram> minecraft server with the computer in it
L362[04:26:17] <PotatoTrumpet> fine
L363[04:26:24] <PotatoTrumpet> don't work, ~g
L364[04:38:10] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: not seen frozen, NEVER want to see frozen
L365[04:38:39] <Kodos> PotatoTrumpet, #g
L366[04:39:15] <Kodos> Someone needs to re-make the Invasion Mod
L367[04:39:18] <Kodos> I miss that mod
L368[04:40:24] <Kodos> Quick, someone link me Esper's webchat with the OC channel url
L369[04:47:03] <PotatoTrumpet> wat?
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L371[04:51:56] <Aedda> Kodos: http://webchat.esper.net/?channels=oc ?
L372[04:52:10] <Kodos> That's it, thanks
L373[04:52:34] <Aedda> Cool :D
L374[04:52:36] <Aedda> np
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L377[05:07:42] <dangranos> гр
L378[05:08:28] <gamax92> for a second i thought that was an r
L379[05:08:38] <gamax92> and that you wanted roleplay
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L382[05:12:35] <ShadowKatStudios> LIFE!
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L390[05:42:45] <Kodos> Uhh
L391[05:42:58] <Kodos> Turned off power in the config, but drones still don't turn on/charge
L392[05:43:06] <Kodos> Do I need to recraft?
L393[05:54:05] <dangranos> bugreport?
L394[05:56:41] <Kodos> I will in a bit, after some more thorough testing
L395[05:57:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay, OC, Computronics and asielib updated after a week.
L396[05:57:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Are drones more mature yet
L397[05:57:21] <ShadowKatStudios> ?
L398[05:58:08] <Kodos> Define mature
L399[05:58:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Dunno.
L400[05:58:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Have they advanced much?
L401[05:59:08] <ShadowKatStudios> (Time to work on the event code for skex-BIOS
L402[05:59:20] <Kodos> No idea, I've been using the RC program pretty much
L403[05:59:34] <Kodos> Gonna try running the client on a tablet next
L404[05:59:51] <ShadowKatStudios> q_q So you haven't been using skex-BIOS?
L405[06:00:09] <Kodos> Not that I'm aware of?
L406[06:00:15] <Kodos> Most programs I use, I keep on my personal pastebin
L407[06:00:22] <Kodos> Since I have a favorites program that grabs them all
L408[06:00:47] <ShadowKatStudios> http://shadowkat.tk/projects/skex-BIOS/
L409[06:02:08] <ShadowKatStudios> 4096 bytes...
L410[06:02:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I think it's just under that.
L411[06:02:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Mmmkay.
L412[06:03:19] <ShadowKatStudios> ~w table.remove
L413[06:03:19] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-table.remove
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L416[06:05:16] *** Cruor|Away is now known as Cruor
L417[06:10:21] <ShadowKatStudios> okay, I can work with 300 bytes space
L418[06:13:45] <ShadowKatStudios> 200 bytes to impliment a read function
L419[06:13:47] <ShadowKatStudios> I can do this
L420[06:16:44] <PotatoTrumpet> DO IT
L421[06:16:46] <PotatoTrumpet> DO IT
L422[06:16:59] <ShadowKatStudios> 3927
L423[06:17:56] <ShadowKatStudios> 3989
L424[06:19:10] * ShadowKatStudios watches the code scroll across his remote terminal
L425[06:19:44] <ShadowKatStudios> I seem to have broken it.
L426[06:19:51] <dangranos> sks
L427[06:19:56] <ShadowKatStudios> mm?
L428[06:20:04] <dangranos> in tar it allocates more space :|
L429[06:20:34] <dangranos> somehow
L430[06:21:16] <ShadowKatStudios> \o/
L431[06:21:41] <ShadowKatStudios> yep
L432[06:21:43] <ShadowKatStudios> it's fscked
L433[06:24:31] <ShadowKatStudios> okay
L434[06:24:35] <ShadowKatStudios> I seem to have fixed it
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L436[06:24:47] <ShadowKatStudios> yay
L437[06:24:51] <ShadowKatStudios> you can now wait for events
L438[06:25:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Also, both ends are now async
L439[06:26:09] <ShadowKatStudios> 32k RAM usage on a 1024k machine
L440[06:27:17] <ShadowKatStudios> it works!
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L442[06:30:07] <ShadowKatStudios> A FORTH environment would be useful
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L444[06:35:25] <dangranos> is 700 rub (12 dollars) much for circus ticket?
L445[06:35:42] <Kodos> What sort of circus
L446[06:35:46] <dangranos> idk
L447[06:35:59] <Kodos> If it's B&B, I'd say that's pretty good
L448[06:36:08] <Kodos> But if it's some shitty travelling circus, I'd say no
L449[06:42:21] <v^> wtf is this shit
L450[06:42:24] <v^> playing half life
L451[06:42:32] <v^> and there is no anti aliasing option
L452[06:42:50] <dangranos> play black mesa: source
L453[06:43:09] <v^> also: ROFL it has a software rendering option
L454[06:43:40] <dangranos> um
L455[06:43:45] <dangranos> and that means?
L456[06:43:59] <dangranos> #google software rendering
L457[06:44:00] -Kibibyte- dangranos: 4110000 results total; First: Software rendering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_rendering
L458[06:45:07] <dangranos> lol, HL is given as example of software rendering game
L459[06:46:35] <dangranos> space engineers takes a lot of time to load .-.
L460[06:49:30] <ShadowKatStudios> So I have 2 spare complexity
L461[06:49:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Considering there are no other cards I want for my drone
L462[06:49:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I think I'll just double the RAM
L463[06:50:16] <ShadowKatStudios> yay chat upgrade
L464[06:50:39] <dangranos> singleplayer?
L465[06:50:47] <ShadowKatStudios> mmm
L466[06:51:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I appear to have improved the speed.
L467[06:51:44] <dangranos> of what?
L468[06:52:11] <dangranos> aaaand its still loading :(
L469[06:52:21] <ShadowKatStudios> My program, and also the link between my drone and my computer
L470[06:56:54] <ShadowKatStudios> I am an idiot
L471[06:57:03] <ShadowKatStudios> I never exited "flash BIOS" mode
L472[06:58:18] <PotatoTrumpet> -_-
L473[06:58:23] <PotatoTrumpet> JC2 crashy
L474[06:58:32] <ShadowKatStudios> JC?
L475[07:01:45] <PotatoTrumpet> Just Cause 2
L476[07:02:46] <ShadowKatStudios> ah
L477[07:03:01] <dangranos> :(
L478[07:03:10] <dangranos> 10 minutes and still no space engineers
L479[07:03:29] <Kodos> dangranos, if it takes that long to load, you probably shouldn't try running it for fear of killing your PC
L480[07:03:39] <dangranos> its in VM
L481[07:04:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Question: Why are you running W7 in a VM rather than installing it on another hDD
L482[07:04:41] <Kodos> What the fuck, Marvel
L483[07:04:43] <ShadowKatStudios> also I feel great, I'm back to typing decently fast.
L484[07:04:43] <dangranos> its installed
L485[07:04:46] <Kodos> A trailer... for a trailer...
L486[07:04:49] <dangranos> and i dont want to reboot
L487[07:05:52] <ShadowKatStudios> 90% exec cap, single CPU
L488[07:06:02] <dangranos> ?
L489[07:06:09] <ShadowKatStudios> my XP VM
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L491[07:06:20] <ShadowKatStudios> it's gonna take a while to compress my CLANNAD install...
L492[07:06:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Is there a way I can mount a .vhd?
L493[07:06:45] <ShadowKatStudios> (linux)
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L495[07:07:41] <dangranos> it was somewhere in qemu tools
L496[07:07:47] <dangranos> somewhere at wiki
L497[07:08:46] <dangranos> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VirtualBox#Mount_virtual_disks
L498[07:08:47] <dangranos> this
L499[07:13:12] <ShadowKatStudios> sudo pacman -Sy && yaourt -S vdfuse
L500[07:21:30] <dangranos> why not just yaourt vdfuse?
L501[07:21:57] <ShadowKatStudios> because
L502[07:21:59] <ShadowKatStudios> pacman
L503[07:22:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway, reboot time.
L504[07:22:06] <ShadowKatStudios> wait
L505[07:22:12] <ShadowKatStudios> gotta check I didn't forget anything
L506[07:22:21] <dangranos> wow, i crashed windows video driver
L507[07:22:43] <dangranos> its ded
L508[07:23:32] <ShadowKatStudios> How do I make grep ignore lines with something in it?
L509[07:25:20] <ShadowKatStudios> anyway
L510[07:25:29] <ShadowKatStudios> can't find the RLVM save files
L511[07:25:40] <ShadowKatStudios> so I'll reboot
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L513[07:29:42] *** SKS-Away is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L514[07:30:01] <ShadowKatStudios> So CLANNAD runs properly on W7
L515[07:32:51] <ShadowKatStudios> My save files are intact, audio is a little odd, but I blame that on the fact it was written for XP-ish
L516[07:33:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Also my headset cable is dying and at max volume only one channel works
L517[07:34:21] <ShadowKatStudios> I just realised, one of the boxes in the background is labelled "SOMY Desktop PC"
L518[07:42:37] <dangranos> gonna reboot, i want to play SE
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L520[07:42:53] <Dashkal> Is there a force termination key sequence for OC?
L521[07:43:37] <ShadowKatStudios> control-alt-C
L522[07:43:53] <Dashkal> Danke
L523[07:44:11] <Dashkal> I just rebooted my computers to get out of nc. Figured there had to be a better way.
L524[07:44:38] <Dashkal> In related news, I need to find this loot disk (or spend some time cozy with wget)
L525[07:46:32] <ShadowKatStudios> arrrgh, why is the Windows window manager so... shit?
L526[07:46:54] <ShadowKatStudios> If I scroll while hovering over another window, CLANNAD eats the scroll >.<
L527[07:47:00] <Dashkal> My common lament. Let me run xmonad (or any tiling window manager with minimal chrome) on windows. Oh please...
L528[07:47:21] <ShadowKatStudios> xfce4 nao
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L530[07:48:02] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: Was about to nmap you, then I realised I was on WinDOS
L531[07:48:17] <dangranos> why?
L532[07:48:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Bored.
L533[07:48:35] <dangranos> everything in windows is so small...
L534[07:49:35] <ShadowKatStudios> small?
L535[07:49:41] <Dashkal> I gave up on all 'normal' window managers eventually. I realized that wanting direct control over window placement was the exception, not the rule.
L536[07:50:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Windows managed to eat loads of disk space and apparently needs 1GB of RAM to run.
L537[07:51:12] <dangranos> i already miss multiple desktops
L538[07:51:32] <ShadowKatStudios> I have two monitors, and it's *very* noticeable
L539[07:51:50] <dangranos> lack of multi-desktops?
L540[07:51:54] <ShadowKatStudios> mmm
L541[07:52:16] <dangranos> my windows also borked a little
L542[07:52:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I managed to abuse xfce into letting me have separate workspaces on each monitor, at the expense of multi-monitor individual windows
L543[07:53:15] <dangranos> firefox on windows looks like its fullscreen
L544[07:54:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Re-add the menu bar, fix some other layout issues and install Classic Theme Restorer and it'll look like Firefox rather than Chrome
L545[07:54:25] <dangranos> firefox froze, again
L546[07:55:05] <dangranos> i just tried to switch desktop
L547[07:55:28] <dangranos> usually firefox on 1th desktop, hexchat on second
L548[07:56:28] <Sandroid> I use e17, and it's glorious.
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L550[07:56:42] <SandraNicole> Absolutely glorious.
L551[07:57:10] <dangranos> ^
L552[07:57:19] <dangranos> its awesome
L553[07:57:22] <Dashkal> Heh, I used E for a few months. Pretty as hell, but I never did quite gel with the feel.
L554[07:57:25] <dangranos> but crashy
L555[07:57:30] <Dashkal> I think it was 16 at the time? Years ago.
L556[07:57:30] <SandraNicole> Indeed.
L557[07:57:38] <dangranos> its 18 now, iirc
L558[07:57:58] <SandraNicole> It's amazingly awesome but crashy.
L559[07:58:10] <SandraNicole> Also really buggy in some areas.
L560[07:58:22] <SandraNicole> But for getting stuff done it's glorious.
L561[07:58:24] <Dashkal> Heh, I think that disqualifies it completely for me. I want things like my WM to get the hell out of my way and let me work.
L562[07:58:31] <dangranos> we need quote database bot
L563[07:58:47] <ShadowKatStudios> like, a SQL bot?
L564[07:58:50] <Dashkal> "crashy, buggy", but "for getting stuff done it's glorious" <-- There be a contradiction there...
L565[07:58:55] <dangranos> bash.org bot
L566[07:58:58] <SandraNicole> Not really.
L567[07:59:02] <dangranos> but with our own bash.org
L568[07:59:17] <SandraNicole> It crashes/bugs out with doing it's internal stuff.
L569[07:59:38] <SandraNicole> It's perfectly fine when you're using it to manage windows.
L570[07:59:48] <dangranos> it crashed when i tried to drag-and-drop something
L571[07:59:56] <SandraNicole> oh, yeah.
L572[08:00:10] <dangranos> was it from firefox to e17 file manager?
L573[08:00:25] <SandraNicole> it's file manager is a piece of crap, I use nautilus.
L574[08:00:26] <Dashkal> Mrh. I suspect your tolerance to crashes is simply much higher than mine.
L575[08:00:40] <dangranos> D:
L576[08:00:45] <dangranos> the horror
L577[08:00:46] <ShadowKatStudios> I guess you don't use Windows, then, Dashkal?
L578[08:00:51] <SandraNicole> Actually, I do use it's file manager.
L579[08:01:05] <dangranos> i cant hide windows using mouse wheel in windows
L580[08:01:09] <SandraNicole> but I tend to use the shell for most file operations.
L581[08:01:12] <Dashkal> ShadowKatStudios: Win7 nearly never crashes on me. Only exception to that is in the video driver. And yeah, that drives me up the bloddy wall.
L582[08:01:20] <dangranos> ^
L583[08:01:25] <Dashkal> But it's deal with that or don't game so...
L584[08:01:36] <SandraNicole> you're really that bad about crashes?
L585[08:01:47] <Dashkal> It interrupts my thinking process, and I can't stand that.
L586[08:01:52] <Dashkal> I can deal for gaming. not for work.
L587[08:02:07] <SandraNicole> Hint: don't be me, shit crashes approximately 50% of the time.
L588[08:02:10] <Dashkal> Being five levels deep in some abstraction is much more jarring than losing my minecraft window.
L589[08:02:16] <ShadowKatStudios> I once used a laptop with W7 but had the W8 video driver (school laptop, total shit), when I changed the Window size of Minecraft it would crash the driver and corrupted all the vmem
L590[08:02:26] <Dashkal> Nice!
L591[08:02:37] <dangranos> my windows frozes (completely, not even disk led) for unknown reason
L592[08:02:38] <Dashkal> Yeah, anything consistent like that would tick me off. Not a situation I'm dealing with
L593[08:03:02] <dangranos> windows is about installing just right things
L594[08:03:06] <dangranos> mostly
L595[08:03:17] <SandraNicole> I'm in the middle of programming, whoops, you crashed, oh well..
L596[08:03:29] <Dashkal> I have mine really stable. Win7 is the first windows OS I've actually liked. I only tolerated 2k and XP. I disliked 9x outright.
L597[08:03:36] <ShadowKatStudios> When said vmem was corrupted, all my buttons and most of firefox was random red-and-white squares
L598[08:03:56] <Dashkal> I'm skipping 8. We'll see if 10 is any good.
L599[08:04:07] <SandraNicole> in the middle of playing minecraft, whoops, you ran lowish on ram, let's kill minecraft because it's the biggest ram user.
L600[08:04:25] <dangranos> ugh, i really need to reinstall windows
L601[08:04:31] <SandraNicole> I think E17 does that.
L602[08:04:31] <ShadowKatStudios> 10 looks better than 8
L603[08:04:35] <dangranos> its VERY close to fubar
L604[08:04:45] <Dashkal> Oh good. I'm going to just wait to buy any major hardware until 10 then :P
L605[08:04:55] <Cassandra> Dashkal: So far, I'm not impressed with 10.
L606[08:04:57] <Dashkal> This install is three years old. I'm quite impressed.
L607[08:05:01] <ShadowKatStudios> The thing I dislike about W7 is the amount of useless eyecandy
L608[08:05:03] <Dashkal> Cassandra: *sigh*
L609[08:05:07] <Cassandra> Granted, I hate using Windows.
L610[08:05:11] <Dashkal> Oh well, I'll make a decision for myself when I can get my hands on it.
L611[08:05:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Cassandra: You work at Apple, yes?
L612[08:05:25] <Cassandra> Yes, but that's another point entirely
L613[08:05:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Doesn't just about everything not OS X make you disappointed?
L614[08:05:34] <dangranos> so drama
L615[08:05:40] <Dashkal> rabble rabble!
L616[08:06:01] <dangranos> WHY THERE IS NO HEADER BAR ON FIREFOX (OR HOW ITS CALLED)
L617[08:06:02] <Dashkal> Oh whatever. This channel (when I'm tuned in, anyway) is good for polite discussion of things like this.
L618[08:06:21] <dangranos> this channel is good for everything
L619[08:06:25] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: Right-clock next to the menus, and enable the menu bar
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L622[08:06:31] <Dashkal> I'm no fan of OSX. Just feels wrong to me. Probably a situation of I'm-not-the-target-audience.
L623[08:06:39] <ShadowKatStudios> #oc does have a separate roleplay channel though
L624[08:06:44] <dangranos> sks, not that bar
L625[08:06:45] <Vexatos> \o
L626[08:06:46] <Cassandra> Right now, OS X is my OS of choice. Mainly because the window manager is a hell of a lot nicer than anything I've used on Linux, but it's still a Unix environment.
L627[08:06:55] <Dashkal> xmonad for life :P
L628[08:06:57] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: It will make it work
L629[08:07:05] <Dashkal> That thing messes up if and only if I do it wrong.
L630[08:07:23] <ShadowKatStudios> If not, go into customise, and enable the menu bar I think
L631[08:07:26] <Cassandra> I seriously cannot work well in Windows because I've gotten so much Unix stuff into my workflow. >.>
L632[08:07:35] <dangranos> Cassandra, iirc, there is elementary OS which tries to copy osx look
L633[08:07:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Nope, it's called the title bar
L634[08:07:46] <Dashkal> Of course the fact that I know haskell probably has a lot to do with that...
L635[08:07:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Haiku best OS :P
L636[08:08:04] <Dashkal> I need to poke at NixOS.
L637[08:08:26] <Dashkal> It has an intriguing package manager and filesystem layout.
L638[08:08:30] <Cassandra> Elementary seems to do a pretty decent job of it, dangranos. But there are other features of OS X that I enjoy as well.
L639[08:08:40] <ShadowKatStudios> inb4 itunes
L640[08:08:42] <dangranos> like drm?
L641[08:08:57] <Cassandra> Meh, I'm not particularly attached to iTunes.
L642[08:10:09] <Cassandra> Its system of Bundles are something I really wish other systems would consider adopting, the way Mission Control works in Yosemite is wonderful, I've become accustomed to the keybinds and kind of like them more than the Windows/Linux shortcuts, but that's purely a matter of what I've become used to.
L643[08:10:47] <dangranos> i dont know what is MC and Yosemite
L644[08:11:15] <Cassandra> Even when I swore by Linux I was never concerned with DRM or got involved in the nonsensical open-source vs. proprietary battle.
L645[08:11:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Bundles?
L646[08:11:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Explain please.
L647[08:11:35] <dangranos> ^ also that
L648[08:12:16] <Cassandra> Yosemite is the latest release of OS X. Mission Control is something integrated into the window manager, which... is kind of hard to explain. If I maximize a window, it gets put full-screen in what is essentially a virtual desktop, which I can swipe between with touchpad gestures (three-finger swipes)
L649[08:12:46] <dangranos> so, virtual desktop for every window?
L650[08:12:55] <dangranos> *fullscreen
L651[08:13:04] <Cassandra> Basically. It feels better than it sounds
L652[08:13:06] <Dashkal> Sounds like how I use xmonad.
L653[08:13:16] <Cassandra> Bundles are just special folders in OS X, but they're treated like a single app.
L654[08:13:19] <ShadowKatStudios> alt-F[1..4]
L655[08:13:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, those things.
L656[08:13:28] <Cassandra> Every app, for example, is a bundle
L657[08:13:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I've seen those.
L658[08:13:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Didn't like them.
L659[08:13:43] <ShadowKatStudios> .app
L660[08:13:44] <Cassandra> Which is just a folder with .app at the end, and a specific folder hierarchy.
L661[08:13:48] <SandraNicole> my whole computer is cheap macbook ripoff.
L662[08:13:52] <SandraNicole> fun fact.
L663[08:14:02] <ShadowKatStudios> It's weird, it's just wrong to me.
L664[08:14:24] <ShadowKatStudios> HP ProBook 5320m running Arch Linux here :D
L665[08:14:25] <Cassandra> There are other bundles, such as Frameworks when programming - which are essentially self-contained libs, holding static & dynamic library files for linking, headers, etc.
L666[08:14:40] <Cassandra> Arch is what I use when I run Linux
L667[08:14:43] <dangranos> packet system is better
L668[08:14:51] <Kodos> I downloaded Linux on my netbook, but I couldn't figure out where the fuck IE was storing downloads
L669[08:14:56] <dangranos> *package
L670[08:15:03] <SandraNicole> oh yeah, I was having a look at iOS dev on new years.
L671[08:15:10] <SandraNicole> it's weird and wrong.
L672[08:15:12] <SandraNicole> and crap.
L673[08:15:20] <Dashkal> Arch is my OS of choice for a linux box I use often.
L674[08:15:24] <Dashkal> Not so hot for server work
L675[08:15:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Debian Jessie looks nice for server stuff.
L676[08:15:36] <Dashkal> For that, CentOS or for the specific use case, Raspbian.
L677[08:15:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I should probably update lain to Jessie
L678[08:15:57] <Cassandra> dangranos: It can be. I tend to use Homebrew for package management on my OS X machines
L679[08:16:10] <Cassandra> But for some things, the bundle system is convenient
L680[08:16:35] <ShadowKatStudios> And it doesn't annoy you that your OS is hiding internals?
L681[08:16:40] <Cassandra> Frameworks, for example, are best reserved for Apple-specific things.
L682[08:17:11] <Cassandra> In what way?
L683[08:17:19] <Cassandra> Also, no.
L684[08:17:23] <ShadowKatStudios> It treats a folder as a single file
L685[08:17:25] <SandraNicole> Frameworks are weird and are basically packages/libraries with a different name.
L686[08:17:39] <Cassandra> ShadowKatStudios: Opening a bundle *as* a folder is trivial.
L687[08:17:54] <ShadowKatStudios> But... It should treat folders as folders!
L688[08:17:55] <Cassandra> So no, that doesn't bother me in the slightest. Even less than what I'd assumed you meant.
L689[08:18:12] <dangranos> folder is a folder
L690[08:18:42] <Cassandra> SandraNicole: No, Frameworks are far more than "basically packages/libraries with a different name."
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L692[08:19:08] * ShadowKatStudios sits back, watches, and opens CLANNAD on his other monitor
L693[08:19:12] <SandraNicole> really, Cassandra... well I'm not entirely familiar with it, I just had a poke around in the docs a few days ago.
L694[08:19:19] <SandraNicole> So tell me how they differ.
L695[08:20:23] <dangranos> YAY
L696[08:20:28] <dangranos> Space Engineers
L697[08:20:33] <ShadowKatStudios> *wispers* psst, dangranos, want to know something I've discovered?
L698[08:20:34] <dangranos> non-pirated SE
L699[08:20:42] <dangranos> what is it?
L700[08:20:57] <Roadcrosser> how good is SE?
L701[08:21:03] <Roadcrosser> should I add it to my wishlist
L702[08:21:11] <ShadowKatStudios> *wisper* Apple employees get defensive when you misinterpret documentation
L703[08:21:30] <Cassandra> Well, packages in a way, perhaps. Basically, Frameworks can (and often do) contain multiple versions of their libraries for linking, and the means of adding them to, say, an Xcode project is very convenient.
L704[08:21:37] * dangranos slowly runs away from Cassandra
L705[08:21:40] <Cassandra> ...
L706[08:21:57] * ShadowKatStudios boots up his Haiku box
L707[08:22:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Does RenPy run on Haiku yet? Anyone know?
L708[08:22:51] <dangranos> who has space engineers?
L709[08:22:57] * ShadowKatStudios wants it
L710[08:23:04] <SandraNicole> Cassandra: mmm.... well... don't really see the point. because they're good.
L711[08:23:10] * ShadowKatStudios has $2 steam credit and only $16.50 spare
L712[08:23:14] <Roadcrosser> oh it's 50% off
L713[08:23:15] <Roadcrosser> meh
L714[08:23:21] <SandraNicole> ShadowKatStudios: it should if it runs python and pygame.
L715[08:23:27] <SandraNicole> does it run those two things?
L716[08:23:34] <dangranos> it was 60% iirc
L717[08:23:41] <dangranos> or was it 80%?
L718[08:23:44] <ShadowKatStudios> checking now
L719[08:23:49] <ShadowKatStudios> 50%
L720[08:23:54] <ShadowKatStudios> steam emailed it
L721[08:23:59] <dangranos> oh wai
L722[08:24:03] <ShadowKatStudios> emailed me because it was on sale
L723[08:24:03] <dangranos> >_<
L724[08:24:14] <dangranos> its was and still is 50%
L725[08:24:29] <ShadowKatStudios> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRxcSNaVCPA relevant
L726[08:24:29] -Kibibyte- [ShadowKatStudios] AWOLGABEN - SALE | by WnrLHRglq5fIg4ovE-UB9g | 3m5s | 29w1d ago | 1,246,867 views | Rated: 4.96/5.00
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L728[08:25:04] <ShadowKatStudios> I know that name!
L729[08:25:16] <PotatoTrumpet> .random
L730[08:25:22] <SandraNicole> so that's who Cassandra is.
L731[08:25:23] <SandraNicole> ah.
L732[08:25:24] <PotatoTrumpet> :(
L733[08:25:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Also I can now safely say I have scared an Apple employee away.
L734[08:25:30] <Minalien|Away> ...
L735[08:25:34] <PotatoTrumpet> :D
L736[08:25:35] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L737[08:25:37] <Minalien|Away> Or, you know, I'm making food.
L738[08:25:39] <PotatoTrumpet> Screw apple
L739[08:25:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Or that.
L740[08:25:42] <Dashkal> Is there a way to tell networking (from the loot disk) to route cross interfaces?
L741[08:25:47] <dangranos> .p
L742[08:25:50] <dangranos> its ded
L743[08:25:52] * PotatoTrumpet looks at reddit from his iPhone
L744[08:26:03] <Dashkal> I can't get a machine with a linked card to see one two hops away (nuke <-> router <-> aenet)
L745[08:26:06] <SandraNicole> android masterrace.
L746[08:26:09] <dangranos> ^
L747[08:26:15] * ShadowKatStudios looks at the prices for a Moto G
L748[08:26:27] <SandraNicole> Yes, moto g. that's amazing.
L749[08:26:31] <SandraNicole> that's the phone I have.
L750[08:26:35] <SandraNicole> :P
L751[08:26:40] <ShadowKatStudios> I still don't have the money for it q_q
L752[08:26:40] <dangranos> i heard Kodak want to release own smartphone
L753[08:26:41] <SandraNicole> got it for christmas.
L754[08:26:45] <Dashkal> I love my Moto G
L755[08:26:50] <Dashkal> Best cheap phone available.
L756[08:27:07] <SandraNicole> Was gonna get Moto E, but apparently I was allowed to get Moto G soooo....
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L758[08:27:24] <Dashkal> And I say this with love. It's not a powerhouse, but the resources it provides at its price point are very good.
L759[08:27:24] <ShadowKatStudios> I can't even afford and E q_q
L760[08:27:50] <ShadowKatStudios> The price-to-spec ratio is damn good.
L761[08:28:17] <SandraNicole> I seem to find it low on the RAM department. The rest of it is rather good.
L762[08:28:27] <ShadowKatStudios> 2GB not enough?
L763[08:28:32] <ShadowKatStudios> (It was 2GB, right?)
L764[08:28:41] <ShadowKatStudios> My phone has a whopping 256MiB RAM
L765[08:28:48] <ShadowKatStudios> It can hardly run Firefox
L766[08:28:54] <SandraNicole> no? it's like 600MB.
L767[08:28:55] <dangranos> 512
L768[08:29:12] <dangranos> firefox crashes every minute, sometimes it holds for a 5
L769[08:29:13] <Dashkal> My Moto G has 1 gig
L770[08:29:20] <Dashkal> 882MB available
L771[08:29:32] <ShadowKatStudios> http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g-5831.php says 1GB
L772[08:29:34] * dangranos cries
L773[08:29:42] <SandraNicole> yeah, 1GB.
L774[08:29:49] <SandraNicole> that see,s accurate.
L775[08:29:52] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: Mine can do firefox, just not very well, and it holds
L776[08:30:53] <SandraNicole> not enough for it to keep more than 2 activities open in the background though.
L777[08:31:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Android stuff must have gotten heavier since 2.3
L778[08:31:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Mine copes with my slightly-overkill-multitasking
L779[08:31:31] <SandraNicole> actually, the answer is 4 cached apps.
L780[08:32:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Know what I like?
L781[08:32:34] <dangranos> yay chebureki
L782[08:32:36] <SandraNicole> I only have 200MB free ram apparently.
L783[08:32:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Samsung's windowing system
L784[08:32:54] <SandraNicole> Windowing system?
L785[08:33:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Yeah, it doesn't switch well, but you can have multiple programs open at once
L786[08:33:41] <SandraNicole> (also may I add that for app development, android is way cool whereas ios apps are boring.)
L787[08:33:44] <ShadowKatStudios> on one screen
L788[08:35:27] <Dashkal> yeah, this guy just won't route. He'll happily be a multi-homed machine able to talk to all, but won't route packets across his interfaces.
L789[08:35:43] <SandraNicole> android is well structured, it has a great app system, with it's 4 components of activities, services, content providers, and broadcast listeners, whereas iOS apps are just apps.
L790[08:35:51] <dangranos> :(
L791[08:35:54] <dangranos> too hot
L792[08:36:02] <SandraNicole> and don't forget the Intent system.
L793[08:36:06] <SandraNicole> that's really cool.
L794[08:36:36] <dangranos> intent system?
L795[08:37:23] <dangranos> wow, there is virtual desktops in windows 10?
L796[08:37:39] <SandraNicole> how android launches activities/services.
L797[08:38:02] <SandraNicole> you create an intent, which describes what you want to go to, then tell the system to go there.
L798[08:38:34] <SandraNicole> you can make your activities respond to specific intents.
L799[08:39:10] <SandraNicole> and you can pass information through intents.
L800[08:40:46] * Dashkal blinks
L801[08:40:59] <Dashkal> Ok, I got it to route, but I'm not at all sure why this one works another won't.
L802[08:41:28] * SandraNicole has spent the entirety of the last few days developing an idle game for android.
L803[08:43:05] <SandraNicole> and when I say entirety, I mean from when I woke up in the morning til when I slept.
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L813[09:38:02] <Kodos> http://i.imgur.com/hUvbF5k.png
L814[09:38:04] <Kodos> Goodnight
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L816[09:42:20] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos: Yeah, W10 will have features every other OS since the Amiga has had.
L817[09:42:38] <SandraNicole> :P
L818[09:42:56] <ShadowKatStudios> It'll still be behind, and the WM will still be terrible, of course.
L819[09:43:19] <SandraNicole> I just noticed that my phone case has a smiley face on the inside of it.
L820[09:43:20] <SandraNicole> huh.
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L822[09:47:32] <dangranos> whoa
L823[09:55:41] <dangranos> "maidan" means "square" if translating from ukrainian
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L828[11:05:21] <ShadowKatStudios> I am currently using 3 computers at once. My desktop, my haiku box, and my laptop.
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L834[11:33:47] <dangranos> .-.
L835[11:34:17] <ShadowKatStudios> ._.
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L837[11:40:46] <Alissa> :-:
L838[11:41:20] <dangranos> :=:
L839[11:41:52] <ShadowKatStudios> :_:
L840[11:46:12] <dangranos> damn, i need carriage return symbol
L841[11:46:39] <ShadowKatStudios> ^H^Hal
L842[11:46:55] <dangranos> ?
L843[11:48:33] <ShadowKatStudios> symbal
L844[11:49:42] <Ender> o/
L845[11:49:58] <Logon> Anyone know what the timer event is called?
L846[11:50:00] <dangranos> looks like QR code in Talos Principle is real
L847[11:50:13] <dangranos> um, there is timer event?
L848[11:50:22] <dangranos> ~w timer
L849[11:50:22] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-os.time
L850[11:50:27] <Logon> if i manually do event.pull the timer does not work?
L851[11:50:29] <dangranos> #w timer
L852[11:52:21] <Logon> I do a event.timer call outside of a inf while loop, inside said loop i do event.pull each cycle
L853[11:52:28] <Logon> With that the timers does not seem to work
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L856[11:53:39] <Logon> Any ideas?
L857[11:58:41] * dangranos pokes sks
L858[11:59:00] <dangranos> who was writing OC emulator?
L859[11:59:29] * Ender points at Altenius
L860[12:01:16] <dangranos> lol http://www.sssscomic.com/comicpages/239.jpg
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L874[12:56:11] <AngieBLD> \o
L875[12:56:50] <ShadowKatStudios> o/
L876[13:00:45] <Ender> o/
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L883[13:17:30] <Ender> ¬_¬
L884[13:17:41] <Ender> i think my power supply is broken
L885[13:17:48] <ShadowKatStudios> gg
L886[13:18:22] <Ender> cause my pc just cut off as if someone removed the power cord yet everything else was fine
L887[13:18:51] <Ender> probably a surge, i need a UPS
L888[13:19:27] * ShadowKatStudios has a UPS somewhere in a box, but the battery is most likley dead
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L890[13:20:29] <ShadowKatStudios> hai skyem123
L891[13:21:01] <skyem123> Hello
L892[13:21:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I discovered how scaling images in html works
L893[13:21:59] <skyem123> I found a decent IRC client for iOS, it unfortunately cost money.
L894[13:22:03] <ShadowKatStudios> lain's page now looks nicer
L895[13:22:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Welcome to iOS.
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L897[13:27:24] <Logon> ~w Floppy
L898[13:27:24] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/item:floppy
L899[13:28:13] <Logon> What is the premade floppydisks? Network, build, maze, besh?
L900[13:28:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Something like that.
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L904[13:32:59] <Ender> Logon, any floppies you see in NEI are premade (except the standard one)
L905[13:33:06] <Logon> Yes
L906[13:33:08] <Logon> but what are they for?
L907[13:33:10] <Logon> I can guess
L908[13:33:15] <Logon> but more... concrete :D
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L910[13:33:59] <Kasei> Hi, is there a way to make a wireless redstone signal persistent between frequency shift?
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L912[13:37:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Logon: They contain programs that provide functions hinted at by the name
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L914[13:40:00] <ShadowKatStudios> TIL there is Ren'Py for Android
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L928[14:51:45] <Negi> Oh that seems like an interesting one.
L929[14:51:56] <Negi> Hey gamax92, still searching for animes to watch ?
L930[14:52:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I wonder what would happen if I added the word anime to my ping list...
L931[14:53:08] <Negi> You would probably start to hate the ping sound, if you have any, that is.
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L953[16:23:09] <Ender> right, i'm off as i have to pack for going back to my mother's
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L955[16:33:51] <gamax92> Negi: sure
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L964[16:57:23] <gamax92> ~w non standard
L965[16:57:23] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:non-standard-lua-libs
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L973[17:27:29] <Timmy94_iPad> how can i interrupt a running program?
L974[17:27:49] <Ender> ctrl+alt+c
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L976[17:29:16] <Timmy94_iPad> thank you
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L981[17:58:12] <Inari> Ender: is that an openOS thingy?
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L983[18:00:55] <Logon> It's fun doing big reactor programming
L984[18:02:39] <Ender> Inari, no, general OC thing
L985[18:03:20] <Inari> hm, how to prevent that? :o
L986[18:03:34] <CompanionCube> Inari, why would you want to :o
L987[18:03:59] <Inari> so people dont just cancel programst hat arent supposed to be canceleld
L988[18:04:11] <Inari> what does ctrl+alt+c even do
L989[18:06:22] <bananagram> why would you want to prevent that?
L990[18:06:36] <Inari> first i have to know what it even does :P
L991[18:06:44] <Inari> as OC itself should have no concept of the "current running program"
L992[18:06:57] <bananagram> shouldn't it?
L993[18:07:05] <Inari> it runs a bunch of couroutines
L994[18:07:12] <Inari> theres no concept of program
L995[18:07:48] <Inari> and well e.g. a publically usable computer that should only run 1 specific program though
L996[18:07:49] <CompanionCube> Preventing that would be a key step on the road to OC malware and viruses.
L997[18:08:08] <Altenius> If two computers are connected to the same filesystem, is everything shared? Can they both operate on the same file descriptors?
L998[18:08:09] <CompanionCube> Inari, wouldn't be har
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L1000[18:08:23] <CompanionCube> just don't connect the public computer to a disk drive
L1001[18:08:34] <MindWorX> Does OC robots cause drops same way as CC robots?
L1002[18:08:36] <CompanionCube> and modify init.lua / OpenOS's boot scripts
L1003[18:08:46] <Inari> then tehy can still cancel the running program thouhg :P
L1004[18:08:53] <Ender> Altenius, what filesystem are you refering to?
L1005[18:08:57] <MindWorX> When killing mobs
L1006[18:09:05] <CompanionCube> Inari, but that will just restart the program
L1007[18:09:09] <CompanionCube> if you modify init.lua correctly
L1008[18:09:11] <Altenius> Ender: Any?
L1009[18:09:21] <Inari> so what does it do?
L1010[18:09:27] <CompanionCube> idfk
L1011[18:09:30] <Inari> kill the currently active coroutine? kill all coruotines?
L1012[18:10:01] <Altenius> Ender: I'm wondering if everything in components are shared so I can make my emulator correct
L1013[18:10:03] <Inari> CompanionCube: that being a weird builtin feature instead of an openos feature can cause issues :p
L1014[18:10:53] <Ender> Altenius, well, most of the external filesystems don't seperate component/network access so if you connected 2 computers to, say, a RAID they'd end up sharing components
L1015[18:11:29] <CompanionCube> Ender, is that bad?
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L1017[18:12:08] <Altenius> Can two computers even be connected to the same filesystem in OC?
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L1020[18:18:39] <vifino> Altenius: Not that I know of, but you could do something like a network fs.
L1021[18:19:17] <Altenius> vifino: eh, I'll make it so you can connect them together anyway
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L1025[18:29:36] <Kodos> If you can keep the two computers from getting shared states, let me know
L1026[18:29:43] <Kodos> Been trying to do that with a RAID
L1027[18:32:44] <Inari> copy is weird
L1028[18:34:21] <Kodos> ?
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L1030[18:38:50] <Inari> Ender: its an openos thing
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L1032[18:40:15] <Kodos> Fuck these quesadillas are bs
L1033[18:40:36] <AlteniusPhone> Why does mine craft always have to use 7 GB of ram when I tell it to use 4 >.>
L1034[18:40:47] <Kodos> Because memory leaks
L1035[18:40:58] <AlteniusPhone> Freezes my computer
L1036[18:41:01] <Kodos> Also
L1037[18:41:09] <Kodos> Unless you have mods that are coded terribly
L1038[18:41:20] <Kodos> You should never need more than 2gb allocated
L1039[18:41:25] <Kodos> ever
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L1041[18:47:10] <Inari> CompanionCube: and you can :D
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L1043[18:51:37] <Kodos> Holy shit
L1044[18:51:38] <Kodos> http://gfycat.com/WavyFilthyArawana
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L1047[19:01:46] <Kodos> http://bmrf.us/ HL3 confirmed
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L1050[19:10:23] <Altenius> What's the difference between unicode.len and unicode.wlen?
L1051[19:14:30] <Altenius> Minecraft is using 7 GB on the title screen....
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L1056[19:32:39] <Altenius> Sangar: what does unicode.wlen do?
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L1061[19:38:38] <Techokami> I had a crap day at work :|
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L1068[20:05:32] <Timmy94> Hello
L1069[20:05:54] <Kodos> Howdy
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L1077[20:32:55] <skyem123> cd /
L1078[20:32:57] <skyem123> rm *
L1079[20:33:15] <skyem123> How to rm -rf / in opencomputers
L1080[20:37:18] <Timmy94> crap...
L1081[20:38:13] <Vexatos> skyem123, shift-right click
L1082[20:38:15] <Vexatos> the HDD
L1083[20:38:20] <Vexatos> or floppy
L1084[20:38:22] <Vexatos> in your hand
L1085[20:38:25] <Vexatos> to empty it
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L1088[20:39:36] <Timmy94> http://pastebin.com/9zYr4MmD <- i have somewhere an error.
L1089[20:39:52] <Timmy94> i dont know what it is
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L1093[20:43:49] <Timmy94> Does someone now, what kind of error it is?
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L1097[20:51:08] <Timmy94> The drawbar (function anzeigeBalken) does not work like i want. the drawbar is get higher, but not lower..
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L1099[20:53:44] <Altenius> https://github.com/alakazard12/OCEmulator-Qt I'm taking a break now
L1100[20:56:34] <Kodos> Timmy94, can you tell me the exact error you're getting?
L1101[20:56:41] <Kodos> Letter for letter, number for number
L1102[20:58:16] <Timmy94> wait
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L1107[21:14:02] <Inari> hmm
L1108[21:14:21] <Inari> wonder whats the best modded block to detect the type of an item that is passing by
L1109[21:24:03] <Inari> can OC somehow do that?
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L1115[21:45:42] <Timmy94> Bye
L1116[21:45:49] <Timmy94> Good Night
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L1130[22:46:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Finally fixed my /etc/fstab
L1131[22:46:36] <ShadowKatStudios> It now mounts /media/anime and /media/winHDD on boot
L1132[22:53:49] <skyem123|upgrading> I just installed more fans into my computer
L1133[22:54:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I would add more to mine
L1134[22:54:21] <ShadowKatStudios> except I don't have any places to mount them
L1135[22:54:39] <ShadowKatStudios> because my case sucks
L1136[22:55:03] <skyem123|upgrading> My case has 6 spaces for fans
L1137[22:55:21] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: http://www1.sky.com/opensourcesoftware/ this render for you
L1138[22:56:15] <ShadowKatStudios> geez, do they not know CSS?
L1139[22:56:21] <ShadowKatStudios> painful to look at
L1140[22:56:33] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: renders as text
L1141[22:56:38] <TabletCube> For me
L1142[22:56:54] <ShadowKatStudios> ? it is text?
L1143[22:57:25] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: i mean it doesn't render as html
L1144[22:57:35] <ShadowKatStudios> oh
L1145[22:57:39] <ShadowKatStudios> it works as html for me
L1146[22:57:47] <ShadowKatStudios> what browser are you using?
L1147[22:58:10] <TabletCube> Android stock
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L1150[22:58:52] <ShadowKatStudios> ah
L1151[22:59:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm using firefox 34 IIRC
L1152[23:00:05] * vifino hugs ShadowKatStudios
L1153[23:00:17] * ShadowKatStudios hugs vifino
L1154[23:00:20] <ShadowKatStudios> How are you?
L1155[23:00:50] <vifino> Same as this morning.
L1156[23:01:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Fair enough.
L1157[23:01:41] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: i should really bitch to the world about sky's gpl issues
L1158[23:02:59] <ShadowKatStudios> So do it?
L1159[23:03:43] <TabletCube> cba writing it
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L1161[23:04:58] <Molinko> anybody home?
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L1163[23:05:45] <ShadowKatStudios> There are 21 Random Chiptune Mixes on youtube.
L1164[23:05:51] <ShadowKatStudios> That one wasn't a record.
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L1168[23:36:15] <ShadowKatStudios> So someone wrote a program for CC to have similar freedoms as OC. It has to use exploits to do it.
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L1171[23:39:27] <ShadowKatStudios> skyem123: Pentium III or VIA C3?
L1172[23:39:38] <skyem123> eh?
L1173[23:39:43] <TabletCube> ShadowKatStudios: source?
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L1175[23:40:15] <ShadowKatStudios> TabletCube: http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/topic/21441-v3computercraft-root/ No idea if it works, but it's a thing.
L1176[23:40:19] <ShadowKatStudios> skyem123: For lain.
L1177[23:40:22] <skyem123> hmm
L1178[23:40:43] <skyem123> Isn't the VIA C3 a Pentium III clone?
L1179[23:41:41] <ShadowKatStudios> No, the C3 is a Pentium MMX workalike with 3DNow! instructions and it's like, super-simple, so they can get better clock speeds and less power consumption
L1180[23:42:28] <skyem123> Pentium MMX...
L1181[23:42:30] <skyem123> heheh
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L1183[23:43:12] <ShadowKatStudios> skyem123: Take a look at lain's /proc/cpuinfo
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L1185[23:44:34] <skyem123> What does the extra features of a pentium III give you?
L1186[23:45:11] <ShadowKatStudios> 1Ghz and SSE
L1187[23:45:18] <ShadowKatStudios> But the power draw will be a lot higher
L1188[23:45:25] <ShadowKatStudios> lain's C3: flags : fpu de tsc msr cx8 mtrr pge mmx 3dnow
L1189[23:46:54] <skyem123> Do you NEED them?
L1190[23:47:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Probably not.
L1191[23:47:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Honestly, I just want to see if it works
L1192[23:48:22] * skyem123 shrugs
L1193[23:48:25] <ShadowKatStudios> http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL5PU.html
L1194[23:49:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Much bigger cache
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L1196[23:49:42] <ShadowKatStudios> 8.5 watt TDP vs 30 watt TDP though...
L1197[23:49:56] <ShadowKatStudios> http://ark.intel.com/products/27523/Intel-Pentium-III-Processor---S-1_13-GHz-512K-Cache-133-MHz-FSB
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L1199[23:51:18] <ShadowKatStudios> 1592 bogomips vs 2274 bogomips
L1200[23:53:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm, my mum would probably not like it if lain started using more power...
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L1203[23:55:36] <ShadowKatStudios> I wonder if BeOS would run on a C3 box...
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L1205[23:55:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Pentium III stuff was sort of the end of supported hardware...
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