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L3[00:11:33] <SotatoPatKtudios> ~w modem
L4[00:11:34] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
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L6[00:40:39] <SotatoPatKtudios> How does the Colorful lamp form computronics work?
L7[00:40:53] <SotatoPatKtudios> can't figure out how the colorful_lamp.setLampColor() works
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L14[01:31:25] <bananagram> you know what we need in OC?
L15[01:31:28] <bananagram> a roguelike
L16[01:31:41] <bananagram> bbl
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L19[02:00:28] <Kodos> bananagram, Have I got a thing for you!
L20[02:01:37] <Kodos> Also nearly died at walmart
L21[02:01:47] <bananagram> what, really?
L22[02:01:51] <Kodos> http://pastebin.com/guajpbEX
L23[02:01:52] <bananagram> (to both)
L24[02:01:53] <Kodos> Really
L25[02:01:55] <Kodos> And yes
L26[02:02:05] <Kodos> I nearly fell into an 8 foot tall shelf of glass bottles
L27[02:02:26] <gamax92> R.I.P
L28[02:02:37] <Kodos> Because my leg decided that was the PERFECT place to have my calf charlie horse, my ankle hyperextend, and my thigh to give out completely
L29[02:03:01] <gamax92> ouch
L30[02:03:20] <Kodos> Right
L31[02:03:57] <ping> Kodos, walmart loves you too
L32[02:04:09] <Kodos> It should, I spend enough there
L33[02:04:42] <bananagram> I will use that
L34[02:05:01] <Kodos> It's still WIP, but enjoy
L35[02:05:04] <Kodos> It works
L36[02:05:06] <Kodos> It's just pretty barebones atm
L37[02:08:50] <bananagram> I wish interwebs were a block
L38[02:17:24] <SotatoPatKtudios> Kodos: That looks cool
L39[02:17:55] <Kodos> As much as I'd like to, I cannot take the credit
L40[02:18:04] <Kodos> I shamelessly took that from a webpage that was offering it for actual Lua
L41[02:18:08] <Kodos> I removed two lines to make it work with OC
L42[02:18:15] <Kodos> And iirc it should work with CC to
L43[02:18:16] <Kodos> too*
L44[02:18:29] <Kodos> I've slowly been adding to it
L45[02:18:34] <bananagram> what are its system requirements?
L46[02:18:59] <Kodos> afaik it should run on a T1
L47[02:19:04] <Kodos> Never really tested it tbh
L48[02:19:11] <Kodos> There's no colors, nothing fancy
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L50[02:28:51] <ShadowKatStudios> *yawn* Mor- no, afternoon o/
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L52[02:30:55] <Kodos> Yikes, I've been up for nearly 24 hours
L53[02:31:11] <SotatoPatKtudios> Kodos: Go to bed. Now.
L54[02:31:24] <Kodos> I plan on going to bed when my wife does
L55[02:31:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Kodos: Obtain more coffee
L56[02:31:37] <Kodos> ShadowKatStudios, coffee knocks me out. Always has
L57[02:31:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh.
L58[02:31:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Caffieine or just coffee?
L59[02:33:28] <Kodos> Just coffee
L60[02:33:41] <Kodos> Caffeine itself (Tea, soda) has no effect one way or the otheer
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L63[02:39:36] zsh sets mode: +o on SpiritedDusty
L64[02:40:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh.
L65[02:44:26] <Kodos> http://steamcommunity.com/id/MyNameIsKodos/wishlist All the sales =(
L66[02:45:18] <ping> Kodos, lawl planetary aniahlation sucks
L67[02:45:40] <Kodos> ping, I know, but I wanna fly a planet into another planet because lulz
L68[02:46:16] <ping> Kodos, space engineers is more fun for flying shit into other shit ruining other people's shit for the shits and giggles
L69[02:46:33] <Kodos> ping, I'm usually on the receiving end of that, so I play single player with mods
L70[02:46:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Oooh, KSP is 25% off!
L71[02:46:54] <ShadowKatStudios> If only I had $25 spare
L72[02:47:09] <ping> i dont want KSP because i want to work at nasa
L73[02:47:20] <SoniEx2> it's a ping!
L74[02:47:36] <ping> i was scared for a second there
L75[02:47:41] <ping> but then i realized /ignore existed
L76[02:47:43] <ping> PHEW!
L77[02:47:45] <SoniEx2> needs more mass tho and then it can evolve into a /massping
L78[02:48:05] <ping> SoniEx2, am 115 points
L79[02:48:09] <ShadowKatStudios> I intend to work in IT rather than space stuff, so I can play KSP without negative effects.
L80[02:48:09] <ping> no mass5me
L81[02:48:14] <SoniEx2> I'm not allowed to do that here tho
L82[02:48:23] <ping> lol points
L83[02:48:26] <ping> mind = blender
L84[02:48:30] <ping> pounds*
L85[02:48:41] <ping> i am 115 pounds
L86[02:48:54] <ShadowKatStudios> What is that in real measurements?
L87[02:49:13] <ping> 179 USD
L88[02:49:17] <ping> errr
L89[02:49:18] <SoniEx2> ping, /py exec hexchat.command(" ".join(["say"] + [x.nick for x in hexchat.get_list("users")]))
L90[02:49:25] <ping> 52 kg
L91[02:49:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh. 3kg or so lighter than me
L92[02:49:50] <SoniEx2> can't do that here
L93[02:49:55] <ping> SoniEx2, /cs kickban
L94[02:49:59] <SoniEx2> but you can so do it
L95[02:50:03] <SoniEx2> :P
L96[02:50:13] <ping> ShadowKatStudios, actually am lighter
L97[02:50:15] <ping> i had cloths on
L98[02:50:22] <SoniEx2> anyway I need sleep, good night o/
L99[02:50:29] <ping> its only 10...
L100[02:50:49] <SoniEx2> I woke up too early
L101[02:51:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Kodos: Masterspace looks cool, and I can afford it...
L102[02:51:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Do you know if it needs a strong GPU?
L103[02:51:38] <SoniEx2> I went to bed at 3 AM, woke up at 6, now it's 1 AM of the next day >.>
L104[02:51:38] <ping> i spent my $15 on gamax92
L105[02:51:40] <ping> :P
L106[02:51:58] <gamax92> that game was 15$?
L107[02:52:04] <SoniEx2> cya o/
L108[02:52:05] <ping> gamax92, so worth it :>
L109[02:52:13] <Pwootage> Evening everyone!
L110[02:52:41] <ShadowKatStudios> what game?
L111[02:52:49] <ping> gamax92, dont feel too bad, i had 3 $10 amazon cards that i found from 2 years ago
L112[02:52:59] <ping> ShadowKatStudios, space engineers
L113[02:53:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah. It was $10 at one point.
L114[02:53:24] <ShadowKatStudios> It was literally $2 out of my current steam credit >.<
L115[02:53:33] <Pwootage> I need to try SE again, it's been ages
L116[02:53:40] <ShadowKatStudios> >Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT / AMD Radeon HD3850 *
L117[02:53:43] <Pwootage> also, KSP has been a while
L118[02:53:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Aww yeah, I can play Masterspace.
L119[02:54:23] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll have to use Windows to play it though :/
L120[02:54:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Fortunately, I have that installed!
L121[02:54:49] <SotatoPatKtudios> Hmm
L122[02:55:06] <SotatoPatKtudios> Now, ShadowKatStudios, is that a genuine version of Windows 7?
L123[02:55:20] <gamax92> Will it run in ReactOS
L124[02:55:24] <SotatoPatKtudios> 100% legally obtained?
L125[02:55:25] <ShadowKatStudios> It says Windows is activated...
L126[02:55:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Windows isn't legal anyway
L127[02:55:57] <SotatoPatKtudios> :/
L128[02:56:03] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: did you buy Windows or crack it
L129[02:56:16] <ShadowKatStudios> I found a key for it.
L130[02:56:23] <ShadowKatStudios> I don't have the money to buy Winderps
L131[02:56:25] <gamax92> Did you buy something that get you the key
L132[02:56:41] <ShadowKatStudios> I didn't buy anything that gave me a key
L133[02:56:46] <gamax92> ILEGIL
L134[02:57:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Indeed, I can't believe no-one has stopped MS selling Windows.
L135[02:57:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway, reboot time
L136[03:03:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Woo, downloading at 2MB/s
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L140[03:16:52] <Pwootage> ...apparently my parents are going to England for the 4th of july...
L141[03:16:57] <Pwootage> that's just unamerican
L142[03:19:05] <ShadowKatStudios> That's amazing.
L143[03:19:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Your parents deserve a medal
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L147[03:31:27] <Pwootage> Any australians in here?
L148[03:32:16] <LordFokas> see anyone finishing their sentences with 'mate'? :p
L149[03:32:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Pwootage: Hai.
L150[03:32:43] <Pwootage> s/Hai/Hai mate/
L151[03:32:43] <Kibibyte> <ShadowKatStudios> Pwootage: Hai mate.
L152[03:32:45] <Pwootage> much better
L153[03:32:57] <LordFokas> lel
L154[03:33:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Right then, mate. Why d'ya ask?
L155[03:33:24] <Pwootage> anyway, watching some classic christmas movies, realized all these are northern hemisphere ones. What do you watch down there?
L156[03:34:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Everyone gets wasted, generally, and end up watching either sport replays or random movies on TV
L157[03:34:44] <Pwootage> :( no red rider bb guns with a compass in the stock?
L158[03:35:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Dunno, my family doesn't really do christmas
L159[03:35:27] <Pwootage> Was just curious. I'm sorry it's so hot right now, btw. It's nice and cold here :3
L160[03:36:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Today is decentish, there's cloud cover
L161[03:36:28] <Pwootage> only like 40 celcius? :p
L162[03:36:56] <ShadowKatStudios> 30ish with stupid amounts of humidity
L163[03:37:09] <Pwootage> Humidity is painful, but 30 isn't bad at all
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L165[03:38:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Indeed, if it wasn't humid it'd be great here
L166[03:38:50] <Pwootage> Lucky me, I'm in middle of a continent, it's always bone dry here
L167[03:39:33] <Pwootage> (thus lots of lotion and chapstik)
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L170[03:51:03] <NixillUmbreon> TIL that walking into tthe block a keyboard occupies bounces you back out
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L173[03:52:33] <ShadowKatStudios> NixillUmbreon: It's to prevent cats from laying on your keyboard
L174[03:53:13] <Pwootage> That has got to be one of the best answers I've ever heard
L175[03:57:54] <ShadowKatStudios> yes
L176[03:57:57] <ShadowKatStudios> yes it has
L177[04:15:29] <NixillUmbreon> Tablet... with a piston upgrade... Sliding block puzzles!
L178[04:15:40] <NixillUmbreon> Now if only the tablet worked at your foot level instead of the head...
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L184[04:48:27] <NixillUmbreon> I wonder why component.something_not_attached errors instead of returning nil.
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L196[05:43:05] <Ditchbuster> well i messed up my coord system some for tracking my robots posistion, jusst realized i swapped my x and y axis to the normal convention.
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L198[05:45:29] <SotatoPatKtudios> :P
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L205[06:36:10] <Azazel> Ok so
L206[06:36:37] <Azazel> What type of code can open computers take without breaking
L207[06:41:14] <Roadcrosser> working ones
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L209[07:03:08] * NixillUmbreon decides to withdraw from OCJam and start working on the program that would have been his entry.
L210[07:05:05] <Azazel> Would bf and vf work?
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L216[07:17:54] <seebs> I think that question implies a very confused premise.,
L217[07:18:07] <seebs> Opencomputers computers run lua. That's it.
L218[07:18:22] <seebs> There's some hooks to in theory allow you to make other things that could run on them, but right now, it's all lua, all the time.
L219[07:21:06] * Roadcrosser still wants that zmachine
L220[07:21:31] <seebs> do you want it enough to stand on a nearly ninety-degree wall to get it?
L221[07:21:42] <seebs> i am told that is the current standard for wanting a thing
L222[07:29:12] <NixillUmbreon> ~w file
L223[07:29:12] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-dofile
L224[07:29:17] <NixillUmbreon> ~w io
L225[07:29:17] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-io
L226[07:29:24] <NixillUmbreon> ~w oc io
L227[07:29:24] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/
L228[07:29:31] <NixillUmbreon> screw it
L229[07:29:49] <NixillUmbreon> guys, can you help? file:read("*n") is erroring because "not implemented"
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L234[08:36:35] <Kodos|Zzz> NixillUmbreon, just woke up; I'd need context and possibly code to see what's going on with it
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L256[10:44:16] <Kodos> This is hilarious
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L265[11:30:12] <SoniEx2> NixillUmbreon, it's not implemented
L266[11:30:35] <SoniEx2> ok so let's say I wanna implement file:read("*n")
L267[11:30:41] <SoniEx2> do I have to handle unicode? >.>
L268[11:30:53] <SoniEx2> or just take everything tonumber() takes?
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L270[11:43:22] <SoniEx2> eh damn UB :/
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L272[11:47:05] <Inari> 1 more day \o/
L273[11:47:15] <Inari> did we get any more spoilers aside the sheep yet?
L274[11:47:57] <Negi> Note to self : Banshee's iDevice sync is crap.
L275[11:48:23] <Negi> Inari: What about ?
L276[11:48:49] <Inari> the new OC thingy
L277[11:51:19] <Negi> Oh
L278[11:53:31] <Negi> There's a new OC thingy ? :O
L279[11:53:42] <Negi> I always miss the fun stuff D:
L280[11:53:42] <Inari> well supposedly something for the 24th or so
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L282[11:53:48] <Sangar> o/
L283[11:53:50] <Ender> \o
L284[11:53:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Sangar: Hints nao
L285[11:53:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Also hai
L286[11:54:01] <Magik6k> o/
L287[11:54:13] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios: spoilers...
L288[11:54:37] <ShadowKatStudios> http://imgur.com/gallery/f5AE5
L289[11:54:57] <Magik6k> Sangar, do I see correctly that AP is by default repeater?
L290[11:55:09] <Negi> Augh. I should set my browser to chromium instead of Iceweasel.
L291[11:55:15] <Sangar> SoniEx2, non-unicode would be fine
L292[11:55:27] <Ender> Magik6k: yes, AFAIK
L293[11:55:37] <Sangar> no more spoilers, sorry. or well. hmm. ok. here's one: it has to do with microcontrollers.
L294[11:55:40] <Magik6k> good
L295[11:55:43] <Sangar> Magik6k, yes. default is on.
L296[11:56:27] <SoniEx2> Sangar, is 0x fine too?
L297[11:56:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Do we get some form of external component interface?
L298[11:56:28] <Kodos> https://imgur.com/a/yKZYY LOOK WHAT I DID
L299[11:57:35] <Kodos> Also Sangar, thank you for motion sensors. I have my base set to go on lockdown panic mode if there's a creeper
L300[11:57:45] <Magik6k> Oo
L301[11:57:55] <Magik6k> http://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/2q48ao/buildcraft_teaser/
L302[11:58:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I should look into these motion sensors
L303[11:58:11] <Negi> Kodos: And this is why painting-doors should be a thing.
L304[11:58:30] <SoniEx2> Sangar, is there an unicode.match?
L305[11:58:53] <Magik6k> ~w unicode
L306[11:58:53] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:unicode
L307[11:58:58] <Magik6k> SoniEx2, ^
L308[11:59:30] <Ender> Sangar: does https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/f499f939a81c2ed88ad354ed484ca9e3ce39d4bd have a button in the gui for changing it's setting or is it a config value?
L309[12:00:03] <Sangar> see the @Callbacks. it's on the component, just like the signal strength
L310[12:00:24] <Ender> ok
L311[12:00:53] <Sangar> (so you'd do `component.access_point.setRepeater(false)` e.g.)
L312[12:00:56] <SoniEx2> uhh meh >.>
L313[12:01:16] <SoniEx2> can we get unicode.match and unicode.find and stuff?
L314[12:01:35] <Kodos> Sangar, so I could use a solar panel/powerconverter/AP tower to make repeater towers?
L315[12:02:32] <Sangar> Kodos, sure. don't even need the converter i think
L316[12:02:52] <SoniEx2> if not I guess I'll have to read it char-by-char >.>
L317[12:02:56] <Kodos> Also what are the odds of Capacitors getting CTM?
L318[12:03:20] <Sangar> SoniEx2, do you actually need that? should only make a difference for [] groups, and using those with anything but control chars is pretty rare in my experience
L319[12:03:21] <SoniEx2> also can we get an utf-8 aware string.byte? (and string.char I guess)
L320[12:04:05] <SoniEx2> Sangar, that's the idea, if 0 and x, then pattern = "[0-9a-fA-F]+", else pattern = "[0-9]+"
L321[12:04:38] <Sangar> why wouldn't that work with unicode?
L322[12:04:50] <SoniEx2> hmm idk
L323[12:05:03] <Sangar> if a unicode char starts with one of those it's exactly the same as ascii, if it doesnt the match fails
L324[12:05:30] <Inari> haha i havent seen gabegaming.com before
L325[12:05:39] <SoniEx2> ok
L326[12:12:08] <SoniEx2> this is interesting
L327[12:12:44] <SoniEx2> https://gist.github.com/SoniEx2/570a363d81b743353151
L328[12:12:51] <SoniEx2> it ate the 0x
L329[12:17:07] <SoniEx2> does OC support tonumber("0x123")?
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L333[12:29:38] <SoniEx2> lol
L334[12:29:49] <ShadowKatStudios> I think it does
L335[12:29:50] <SoniEx2> it eats +, -, 0x, 0X, trailing e .-.
L336[12:30:02] <SoniEx2> (standard lua that is)
L337[12:32:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I really need to get a better editor for micrOS, skex is a little hard to use, but it's better than sked, I guess
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L343[13:12:06] <Wuerfel_21> hi
L344[13:16:24] <SoniEx2> ok now how do I test my changes?
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L346[13:21:53] <SoniEx2> Sangar, ^
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L350[13:38:29] <ShadowKatStudios> o/ skyem123
L351[13:38:36] <skyem123> \o ShadowKatStudios
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L353[13:38:56] <skyem123> I want this: http://www.everymac.com/systems/daystar/mp_plus/genesis_mp932_plus.html
L354[13:39:38] <skyem123> and you can apparently put this in as well: http://www.everymac.com/upgrade_cards/sonnettech/crescendo_g4_pci/crescendo_pci_g4_800.html
L355[13:40:07] <skyem123> apparently there is a 1GHz version as well
L356[13:40:11] <ShadowKatStudios> CALLED IT
L357[13:40:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Those are OP as fuck, and they would be epic.
L358[13:40:46] <skyem123> It also is compatible with BeOS
L359[13:41:08] <ShadowKatStudios> ofc it'll be expensive, too?
L360[13:41:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Heh, interesting...
L361[13:42:16] <SoniEx2> did I do this right? https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/755
L362[13:42:44] <SoniEx2> (I mean the PR part not the code part)
L363[13:44:43] <SoniEx2> actually wait
L364[13:49:25] <SoniEx2> nvm
L365[13:49:31] <SoniEx2> thought I had a value wrong there
L366[13:53:42] <SoniEx2> so yeah did I do it right?
L367[13:57:50] <Negi> Trying to multitask is hard
L368[14:00:25] <Kodos> Jeb's wife looks like a man :x
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L371[14:01:28] <Wuerfel_21> Kodos, lol?
L372[14:01:39] <Kodos> Wuerfel_21, weren't you banned for a week?
L373[14:04:09] <tiin57> Yeaaaah, still supposed to be banned xD
L374[14:05:20] <Kodos> Ender, fixplzkthx
L375[14:05:37] <tiin57> Kodos: just ping Cruor he'll fix it.
L376[14:05:43] <tiin57> Cruor: fixplskthx
L377[14:05:49] <Kodos> tiin57, does this look like #computercraft?
L378[14:05:55] <tiin57> Kodos: what's your point?
L379[14:05:59] <Kodos> Besides, that's AmandaCunt's job anyway
L380[14:06:02] <tiin57> Cruor can fix everything.
L381[14:06:05] <Kodos> True
L382[14:06:56] <ShadowKatStudios> We could just bash Wuerfel_21 to death.
L383[14:07:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Why was he banned?
L384[14:07:08] <Kodos> Rape jokes iirc
L385[14:07:12] <DeanIsaKitty> yep
L386[14:07:19] <ShadowKatStudios> (Yes, I will continue talking about you like you're not here, Wuerfel_21 )
L387[14:07:32] <Wuerfel_21> Kodos, my boncer autojoined me, no idea
L388[14:07:41] <Kodos> Well
L389[14:07:42] <Kodos> gtfo
L390[14:07:42] <Kodos> =D
L391[14:07:44] <tiin57> I like boncers.
L392[14:07:45] <SoniEx2> OC should add a /run or w/e
L393[14:07:51] <Kodos> SoniEx2, wat
L394[14:07:53] * tiin57 bonces Wuerfel_21
L395[14:08:02] <tiin57> As Kodos so kindly put it
L396[14:08:03] <tiin57> gtfo
L397[14:08:04] <tiin57> c:
L398[14:08:42] <SoniEx2> Kodos, or /dev
L399[14:08:44] <SoniEx2> and /dev/mem
L400[14:08:54] <Kodos> What are you prattling on about? Directories?
L401[14:08:58] <Wuerfel_21> also, it was a friggin misunderstanding of me using the wrong word for something
L402[14:09:09] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: I think he means the linux root dir tree.
L403[14:09:21] <SoniEx2> Kodos, yes
L404[14:09:23] * Kodos doesn't know a thing about Linux other than it's superior to Winblows
L405[14:09:36] <SoniEx2> linux lets you edit the RAM directly
L406[14:09:49] <ShadowKatStudios> /dev/mem would allow direct access to the memory of the OC computer, then?
L407[14:09:54] <ShadowKatStudios> ie compiled programs?
L408[14:09:55] <SoniEx2> yes
L409[14:10:00] <SoniEx2> yes?
L410[14:10:02] <Kodos> You can already do that, can't you?
L411[14:10:16] <SoniEx2> direct access to the raw memory
L412[14:10:20] <SoniEx2> compiled programs, C
L413[14:10:23] <SoniEx2> everything
L414[14:10:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Imagine the power you would have...
L415[14:10:40] <SoniEx2> well yeah >.>
L416[14:10:48] <SoniEx2> but how else am I supposed to get used RAM?
L417[14:11:14] <Kodos> usedMemory
L418[14:11:16] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: :o
L419[14:11:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Emulating that would force every computer to its knees. You are basically trying to make OC a vm.
L420[14:11:27] <Kodos> ~w computer
L421[14:11:27] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:computer
L422[14:11:45] <SoniEx2> DeanIsaKitty, why not?
L423[14:11:46] <vifino> if we had access to the ram, we could dump the contents to a file and restore it on boot
L424[14:11:47] <vifino> 8D
L425[14:11:55] <SoniEx2> you can already just use NaCl anyway
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L427[14:12:15] <DeanIsaKitty> SoniEx2: You are free to make it happen and turn a pull request in.
L428[14:12:32] <SoniEx2> no idea how to use NaCl tho
L429[14:12:51] <Wuerfel_21> OC is actually a VM
L430[14:13:04] <Kodos> DeanIsaKitty, as much as I love open source mods, that particular response is the singular reason I don't suggest things to 90% of open source mods
L431[14:13:26] <vifino> tmux, behave.
L432[14:13:29] <vifino> Please.
L433[14:13:40] <vifino> There we go.
L434[14:13:59] <vifino> Made my tmux use powerline fonts :3
L435[14:14:22] <vifino> So does my term. And my vim.
L436[14:14:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: The thing is: Nobody except Soni really wants that. And Snagar and the other devs are busy having a real life. I'm sorry, but they just don't owe anybody shit.
L437[14:14:29] * vifino <3 powerline fonts
L438[14:14:31] <SoniEx2> if I knew how to stick (P)NaCl onto OC I would
L439[14:14:53] <SoniEx2> and then we would have C in OC
L440[14:15:04] <vifino> :|
L441[14:15:14] <vifino> That sounds stupid.
L442[14:15:25] <Kodos> DeanIsaKitty, I wasn't even really referring to Soni's particular request. Loads of mods do have time to implement 'good' suggestions that I, and others, come up with, but don't simply because they don't want to. Which is fine, since it's their mod, but assuming someone knows enough to be able to PR it in is silly
L443[14:16:31] <ShadowKatStudios> http://bit.ly/1sTToPR can anyone identify the name of the book in this picture? I got the first word,. but I can't process the second
L444[14:16:32] <SoniEx2> vifino, it's not stupid when it's well sandboxed (PNaCl or asm.js)
L445[14:16:57] <vifino> SoniEx2: It is if you imagine how big the load would be then.
L446[14:17:13] <SoniEx2> it's just native code >.>
L447[14:17:14] <vifino> If you spin up a vm, as efficient as it might be, for every computer.
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L449[14:18:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: That is - sadly - how stuff works. A lot of people have good ideas but not the knowledge to make it happen. But what should the devs do? Implement every single thing people come up with?
L450[14:18:18] <vifino> Lets just think we get 16 megabyte of ram, okay? Well, take that + the overhead of the hypervisor, the cpuload of emulating, etc..
L451[14:18:33] <vifino> It would break servers.
L452[14:19:11] <SoniEx2> ok
L453[14:19:17] <SoniEx2> we get 2 MB of RAM
L454[14:19:23] <SoniEx2> the "hypervisor" is a recompiler
L455[14:19:34] <SoniEx2> and it recompiles into safe code
L456[14:20:04] <SoniEx2> (kinda like LuaJIT with debug hooks and no FFI)
L457[14:20:23] <SoniEx2> (or asm.js)
L458[14:20:42] <vifino> It doesn't matter what it is or what it isn't. It would bring a very high load with it.
L459[14:20:45] <Altenius> Internet is blocked because we went over the data limit, but why is Skype unaffected?
L460[14:20:57] <SoniEx2> asm.js is like VMless JS
L461[14:21:04] <Wuerfel_21> Altenius, microsoft deals with isps?
L462[14:21:23] <Altenius> Nah, not my ISP
L463[14:21:24] <Kodos> ShadowKatStudios, not sure if you're b lind or trolling, but I think it says Hacker Heavens
L464[14:21:37] <Kodos> Volume 5
L465[14:21:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay, thanks.
L466[14:21:53] <ShadowKatStudios> My brain is not processing anything well at the moment
L467[14:22:13] <ShadowKatStudios> ie I am not blind, but I am unable to see, in this case.
L468[14:22:26] <Kodos> Yeah, can confirm, OCR reads hacker heavens
L469[14:22:29] <SoniEx2> why's there no way to force GC cycles?
L470[14:23:10] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: To be fair, Soni has a point. You could totally implement something like PNaCl to recompile C into safe sandboxed code. The actual problem is not overhead but more the fact that PNaCl compiles to LLVM and not the JVM.
L471[14:24:01] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: still, i would bet that it would consume more resources.
L472[14:24:12] <vifino> But yes, he has a point.
L473[14:24:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Not that much more than Java itself.
L474[14:24:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Actually no more since sandboxing should happen at compile time.
L475[14:25:59] <DeanIsaKitty> nvm that, that would be stupid <.<
L476[14:27:43] <SoniEx2> s/he/she/
L477[14:27:44] <Kibibyte> <vifino> But yes, she has a point.
L478[14:28:34] <vifino> Since when is SoniEx2 a gi-- Never mind.
L479[14:30:05] <SoniEx2> >.>
L480[14:30:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Yay for latent sexism!
L481[14:30:29] <ShadowKatStudios> http://41.media.tumblr.com/4bb8aa1fbc59556577514dbb999f3166/tumblr_n3jc25OGHd1qzw06jo1_1280.png
L482[14:30:54] <Stary2001> lawl
L483[14:31:37] <SoniEx2> I like how I can hotswap RAM without the computer crashing
L484[14:31:43] <SoniEx2> so realistic /s
L485[14:31:49] <ConcernedHobbit> SoniEx2: It's fucking Minecraft
L486[14:31:56] <ConcernedHobbit> SoniEx2: You can make a fortress made of ice float
L487[14:32:20] <SoniEx2> ConcernedHobbit, still would be cool to teach kids that trying to hotswap RAM crashes the system
L488[14:32:38] <ConcernedHobbit> SoniEx2: ...
L489[14:32:47] <ConcernedHobbit> Stary2001: That's common sense.
L490[14:32:50] <ConcernedHobbit> Err
L491[14:32:53] <ConcernedHobbit> SoniEx2: That's common sense
L492[14:33:07] <Stary2001> SoniEx2: i have an idea
L493[14:33:10] <Stary2001> you get a computer
L494[14:33:12] <Stary2001> and open it up
L495[14:33:15] <Stary2001> and try to hotswap ram
L496[14:33:26] <Stary2001> and you can now teach kids trying to hotswap ram crashes things!
L497[14:33:37] <tiin57> and electrocutes you?
L498[14:33:42] <tiin57> please let it electrocute you
L499[14:33:47] <SoniEx2> ConcernedHobbit, "common sense" isn't exactly common
L500[14:33:49] <tiin57> not you, Soni, but Stary
L501[14:33:54] <tiin57> c:
L502[14:33:56] <Stary2001> :c
L503[14:34:02] * tiin57 electrocutes Stary
L504[14:34:11] <Stary2001> tiin57: eh, theres nothing above 12v outside of the psu :p
L505[14:34:20] <tiin57> TOUCH THE PSU THEN.
L506[14:34:24] <Stary2001> PLSNO
L507[14:34:26] <tiin57> and amp it up
L508[14:34:28] <SoniEx2> tiin57, that'd come from trying to hotswap capacitors on the PSU
L509[14:34:36] <tiin57> SoniEx2: then tell stary to do that.
L510[14:34:40] <SoniEx2> Stary2001, also, 24v
L511[14:34:47] <Stary2001> meh 24v is still ok to touch
L512[14:35:17] <SoniEx2> (touch the -12v wire and the +12v wire)
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L524[15:44:38] <Ender> !kickban Gaming_21 congratulations, you've reached the permnent ban stage, good bye
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L526[15:45:04] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/dGuFZ/9baea66255.jpg I made a thing
L527[15:45:24] <Negi> Ender: What just happened ? ._.
L528[15:45:53] <Negi> Kodos: This is very white.
L529[15:45:57] <SoniEx2> wait
L530[15:46:07] <Kodos> I was going for creepy black and white hut in the middle of the swamp, how'd I do?
L531[15:46:09] <Ender> Wuerful evaded his ban which got him the next one up (perminant)
L532[15:46:33] <Negi> Oh. I see.
L533[15:47:53] <NixillUmbreon> Kodos, about f:read, from the wiki - "io.read does not support the *n format at this point."
L534[15:48:06] <Kodos> Ah
L535[15:48:08] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L536[15:48:11] <Kodos> Going to walmart to spend money
L537[15:48:13] <Kodos> Back in a bit
L538[15:50:33] <SoniEx2> NixillUmbreon, and I did the PR wrong
L539[15:50:37] <SoniEx2> again >.>
L540[15:51:13] <NixillUmbreon> oh, I didn't realize I was pung twice xD
L541[15:52:03] <SoniEx2> (PR = pull request)
L542[15:52:10] <SoniEx2> I'm trying to implement *n
L543[15:52:27] <NixillUmbreon> Thanks
L544[15:53:21] <Negi> tfw Heimdall doesn't work.
L545[15:58:54] <NixillUmbreon> Why doesn't iTunes sell album-price-size gift cards?
L546[15:59:52] <NixillUmbreon> Almost all the albums are $10, but no, their smallest gift card is $15.
L547[16:02:44] <Negi> Because then you feel like you need to spend the money on your iTunes account, and buy another card to spend it.$
L548[16:02:49] <Negi> -$
L549[16:03:54] <NixillUmbreon> Well at least they don't reverse the prices there.
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L554[16:25:53] <bananagram> what's the difference between an eeprom and a lua bios?
L555[16:26:32] <bananagram> and how do I craft a lua bios when the recipes are the same?
L556[16:26:47] <bananagram> an eeprom doesn't seem to work for a computer
L557[16:26:52] <gamax92> Sangar Magic
L558[16:27:05] <gamax92> v
L559[16:27:32] <Sangar> bananagram, how is it the same? o.O lua bios is eeprom + book
L560[16:27:50] <bananagram> oh, according to NEI it's the same
L561[16:28:07] <Sangar> i'm pretty sure there are arrow keys there
L562[16:28:17] <Sangar> *buttons
L563[16:28:21] <gamax92> lol
L564[16:28:44] <Sangar> almost the same thing :P
L565[16:28:51] <gamax92> ™
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L567[16:29:14] <bananagram> yay
L568[16:29:19] <bananagram> it works
L569[16:29:37] <Michael090103> What?
L570[16:29:46] <bananagram> my computers
L571[16:29:54] <Michael090103> LOL
L572[16:30:00] <Sangar> ok yeah, it show the wrong tab by default, but the lua bios recipe is in the shapeless recipe category in nei
L573[16:30:09] <NixillUmbreon> ... I wonder if it'd be possible to allow the dynamic creation of new loot disks.
L574[16:30:14] <gamax92> Rename Computer to This PC
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L576[16:30:20] <gamax92> you must keep up with Microsoft
L577[16:30:37] <Sangar> NixillUmbreon, how dynamic are we talking?
L578[16:30:39] <Michael090103> Where are we talking about?
L579[16:30:56] <SoniEx2> Sangar, do I have to squash? https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/755
L580[16:31:01] <ShadowKatStudios> If you set your username as "This ", would it suggest as a computer name "This PC"?
L581[16:31:37] <Sangar> NixillUmbreon, because you can crate custom ones per world by creating directories in save/opencomputers/loot
L582[16:31:43] <NixillUmbreon> Sangar: At startup, load the disks from a subfolder of config (their sprites and contents). Server disks would have a separate sprite that could either be sent to the client or just use a default.
L583[16:31:59] <gamax92> \®/
L584[16:32:00] <Michael090103> Are we talking about opencomputers?
L585[16:32:08] <NixillUmbreon> Michael090103: Yes.
L586[16:32:10] <gamax92> Minecrosoft
L587[16:32:12] <Michael090103> YAY
L588[16:32:25] <NixillUmbreon> ShadowKatStudios: "This's PC" or "This' PC"
L589[16:32:45] <gamax92> What if your name is !@#$%^&*()
L590[16:32:52] <Michael090103> My Minecraft crashed becouse I did place too many servers :-(
L591[16:33:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Heh, MS can't even do name suggestion right
L592[16:33:04] <NixillUmbreon> Sangar: They'd also get copied to save/opencomputers/loot so that removing them from config wouldn't break your world.
L593[16:33:12] <Sangar> SoniEx2, would be nice, but that's quite long anyway... i wonder if it couldn't be done more concisely? like trying to tonumber until it fails (with only special handling for 0x and 0. and such) not manual in-depth pattern matching.
L594[16:33:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Wait. Ichigo is a girl's name?
L595[16:33:26] <Michael090103> And I tried to connect to the internet but I failed :-(
L596[16:33:36] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios: I think it can be both.
L597[16:33:37] <NixillUmbreon> Michael090103: Internet Card in the computers?
L598[16:33:41] <gamax92> Michael090103: was it North Korea's internet?
L599[16:33:41] <Michael090103> yep
L600[16:33:56] <Michael090103> No
L601[16:34:05] <Michael090103> I'm from Holland
L602[16:34:27] <SoniEx2> Sangar, this emulates vanilla Lua all the way
L603[16:34:43] <Michael090103> ???
L604[16:34:50] <SoniEx2> I thought you were going for compatibility?
L605[16:35:30] <Michael090103> But how do I connect to the internet in Minecraft with OpenComputers?
L606[16:36:31] <Sangar> SoniEx2, well, yeah, but pucrio lua uses c's scanf iirc and that's actually undefined/badly defined for failing a match iirc, so we'd have some liberties there. unless i'm wrong.
L607[16:37:15] <SoniEx2> I think it handles 0x and some other things by itself
L608[16:38:34] <SoniEx2> Sangar, maybe you could abstract the buffering part? that could help
L609[16:38:44] <SoniEx2> (I think... I'm not so sure)
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L611[16:40:37] <SoniEx2> Sangar, at least it still works with the smallest RAM chip
L612[16:41:07] <Sangar> hmm, dunno, will need to have a look. but if it's only deviating in the failure case - which is rather... wonky anyway (i'm pretty sure seeing a thread on lua-l where it was discussed that where it seeks to when it fails is not portable/undefined) then i think it'd be worth it if the code could be boiled down to a fourth or so
L613[16:41:45] <SoniEx2> meh >.>
L614[16:41:51] <SoniEx2> stick with GCC behaviour
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L616[16:42:02] <SoniEx2> that's how it behaves on GCC
L617[16:42:34] <Michael090103> Can anyone tell me how I connect to the internet in Minecraft with OpenComputers?
L618[16:43:13] <Ditchbuster> There is an example on the wiki
L619[16:43:30] <Ditchbuster> Are you taking the parts or code
L620[16:43:42] <Ditchbuster> Talking*
L621[16:43:43] <Sangar> SoniEx2, eh maybe. i'll dig into that when i have more time. so in a few days.
L622[16:43:51] <Michael090103> Yeah I know that there is one on the wiki but I don't realy know the info on the wiki
L623[16:43:56] <SoniEx2> ok
L624[16:45:23] <Ditchbuster> Michael, let get on my computer. I can talk about the basics
L625[16:45:36] <Ditchbuster> What are you trying to do with it?
L626[16:45:49] <Michael090103> connect to google or any website
L627[16:46:30] <Michael090103> but when I click minecraft away then my screen makes minecraft complete white
L628[16:46:46] <Michael090103> So I have Minecraft closed
L629[16:47:28] <Michael090103> Are you still online?
L630[16:47:48] <SoniEx2> Sangar, thanks btw
L631[16:49:04] <Michael090103> Hello?
L632[16:49:10] <Ditchbuster> hey
L633[16:49:16] <Ditchbuster> sorry getting out my computer
L634[16:49:22] <Michael090103> ???
L635[16:49:29] <Ditchbuster> its hard to type on my phone
L636[16:49:49] <Michael090103> I'm at a laptop
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L638[16:50:24] <Ditchbuster> hmm well i havent used it to send http requests but done a little with the irc example
L639[16:50:49] <Ditchbuster> i was sayign I was getting my comptuer, becuase i was on a phone
L640[16:51:00] <Michael090103> But can I connect to IRC via Minecraft with OpenComputers
L641[16:51:01] <Michael090103> ?
L642[16:51:06] <Ditchbuster> yes
L643[16:51:09] <SoniEx2> NixillUmbreon, so what do you think?
L644[16:51:15] <Michael090103> And google?
L645[16:51:17] <NixillUmbreon> hm?
L646[16:51:24] <Michael090103> Or Youtube?
L647[16:51:40] <NixillUmbreon> Michael090103: There isn't an internet browser, if that's what you're asking.
L648[16:51:48] <Ditchbuster> ^ right
L649[16:51:50] <Michael090103> ???
L650[16:51:56] <SoniEx2> Sangar, btw, 1e = nil, 1e1 = 10
L651[16:51:56] <Ditchbuster> you can send requests and get text back
L652[16:52:01] <Michael090103> So I only can connect to IRC?
L653[16:52:23] <Ditchbuster> no you can connect to open ports
L654[16:52:23] <SoniEx2> NixillUmbreon, uhh wait
L655[16:52:32] <SoniEx2> NixillUmbreon, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/755
L656[16:52:36] <Michael090103> What are open ports?
L657[16:52:47] <Ditchbuster> but the data you will get back will be text.. like the html code
L658[16:53:28] <Michael090103> Oh so I can connect, but I only can read messages in the html code but I can't send some message?
L659[16:53:52] <Sangar> SoniEx2, yeah. the most complex pattern where tostringing fails more than once in a row (otherwise just trying to read one more on failure would work nicely) is something like 1e-1 :/
L660[16:54:03] <Sangar> i think
L661[16:54:09] <Ditchbuster> you can send and receive but it is a very basic connection. essentually only text back and forth
L662[16:54:17] <Sangar> or can you do 1e-.1? hmmmm
L663[16:54:31] <SoniEx2> Sangar, that sounds like it wouldn't work
L664[16:54:39] <SoniEx2> my code doesn't support that
L665[16:54:40] <Michael090103> OH
L666[16:54:54] <SoniEx2> (also why would you?)
L667[16:55:18] <Negi> TCP is at a "lower level" than let's say...HTTP or IRC, RTSP or whatever.
L668[16:55:41] <NixillUmbreon> s/essentually/essentially/
L669[16:55:41] <Kibibyte> <Ditchbuster> you can send and receive but it is a very basic connection. essentially only text back and forth
L670[16:55:59] <Ditchbuster> darn my horrible english
L671[16:56:14] <Michael090103> BRB
L672[16:57:53] <SoniEx2> Sangar, it doesn't work
L673[16:58:22] <Sangar> SoniEx2, yeah. i just wasn't sure, after all there's stuff like 0x1.1p1 so hey :P all sorts of crazy
L674[16:58:27] <SoniEx2> Sangar, the issue is your buffer code makes it too big (and the lack of exceptions)
L675[17:00:19] <SoniEx2> I could refactor that to use pcall/error (basically setjmp/longjmp) but that wouldn't really help
L676[17:00:30] <SoniEx2> I'm not sure if there is a better way to do this
L677[17:01:21] <SoniEx2> (also the if/elseif/else chain was one of the ways I found to compact it - see the minbuf variable)
L678[17:03:52] <Sangar> yeah. either way, if you *do* find a way to make it less verbose that'd be awesome; i probably won't be able to properly look at that until after christmas
L679[17:08:24] <SoniEx2> I guess I could try to make other stuff smaller to compensate(?)
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L688[17:59:45] <Sangar> yey, youtube vid introducing the christmas feature is done processing :>
L689[18:01:18] <Negi> Weehoo \o
L690[18:05:47] <Ditchbuster> Awesome sangar!
L691[18:07:12] <bananagram> I have a weird bug with my computer
L692[18:07:43] <bananagram> after I start it, if I open my inventory or a chest or something I can't enter anything into my computers
L693[18:07:45] <Cassandra> I'd send the bug back to the manufacturer
L694[18:07:50] <bananagram> it doesn't seem to accept input
L695[18:08:02] <Cassandra> Did you remember to add a keyboard?
L696[18:08:11] <bananagram> after a while it might accept input again, but it breaks again if I open my inventory
L697[18:08:13] <bananagram> yes
L698[18:09:05] <bananagram> it's fixed by breaking the screen and restarting the computer
L699[18:10:17] <Cassandra> Hrm... I'm not entirely sure how the two would correlate (opening inventory and keyboard not working). Mind you, I'm not very familiar with OpenComputer's codebase - but I wonder if it's a cross-mod issue?
L700[18:11:03] <Ender> that's the only thing i can think of it being
L701[18:11:48] <bananagram> it als happens when I open a chest
L702[18:13:15] <Negi> Maybe Invtweaks or something like that ?
L703[18:13:28] <Cassandra> What inventory-reladed mods do you have, bananagram?
L704[18:15:27] <bananagram> I have InvTweaks but don't use it, and I have NEI
L705[18:15:58] <bananagram> I'll try to get someone else to test it first
L706[18:15:58] <Negi> It's probably InvTweaks, since it registers a lot of keys...And that I never had any NEI issues.
L707[18:16:20] <Negi> "a lot" is subjective of course.
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L709[18:26:20] <Sangar> hmm, haven't heard of that one yet, yeah. would be helpful to know if it also happens without invtweaks / oc on its own.
L710[18:34:58] <bananagram> I removed inventory tweaks and it still happens
L711[18:37:20] <Negi> bananagram: Can you tell the name of the modpack you use/the list of mods ?
L712[18:37:30] <Negi> could*
L713[18:37:34] <bananagram> sure
L714[18:38:22] <bananagram> http://goo.gl/pgn1pN speadsheet of them
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L717[18:41:35] <bananagram> ah
L718[18:42:26] <bananagram> I removed Waila, NEI, ExU, and Chisel nd the bug vanished
L719[18:42:33] <bananagram> now to narrow it down
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L721[18:52:00] <Cassandra> Rather than removing, you should do additive testing. Start with just OC and add mods until it starts happening again
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L724[18:54:47] <vifino> Note to self: Do not use 'exit' in .profile
L725[18:55:26] <gamax92> .-. ...
L726[18:56:01] <bananagram> it seems to be NEI
L727[18:56:58] <Sangar> huh. which version?
L728[18:57:30] <bananagram> 1.7.10-1.0.3.68
L729[18:57:43] <bananagram> I'm going to do additive testing though
L730[18:57:47] <Cassandra> Also for clarity, what version of OC?
L731[18:58:19] <bananagram> 1.4.2.16
L732[18:58:42] <Sangar> huh, that's the nei version i have in dev-env and i haven't seen that yet.
L733[18:58:49] <Cassandra> Hmm... those are the versions I've got. I don't seem to have the issue
L734[18:59:30] <vifino> ==> Continue building funny-manpages ? [Y/n]
L735[18:59:30] <vifino> :2
L736[18:59:35] <vifino> *:3
L737[19:00:37] <Cassandra> bananagram, update to .78 on NEI and see if you still have the issue
L738[19:00:45] <Negi> vifino: yaourt ?
L739[19:00:49] <vifino> yes
L740[19:01:04] <vifino> Yaourt = best pacman frontent :D
L741[19:01:13] <Negi> Yaourt = food
L742[19:01:40] <bananagram> why does the arch community hate yaourt so much?
L743[19:01:43] <vifino> Shush Negi!
L744[19:02:05] <Negi> I do like yaourt -the software-, though, vifino, if it can pardon my joke.
L745[19:02:19] <vifino> :P
L746[19:05:44] <vifino> baby — create new process from two parents
L747[19:05:46] <vifino> :3
L748[19:07:43] <bananagram> ugh, the technic launcher is not a good launcher
L749[19:07:53] <bananagram> it's only good for downloading and running prebuild modpacks
L750[19:07:59] <bananagram> prebuilt*
L751[19:08:53] <Ender> technic is 2nd on the worst launcher list, the first being the mojang launcher
L752[19:09:24] <bananagram> I need a good launcher
L753[19:09:28] <Ender> MultiMC
L754[19:13:47] <Ditchbuster> really? you dont like technic?
L755[19:13:54] <bananagram> yeah
L756[19:14:15] <bananagram> where's the option to create a new, empty installation and add mods to it?
L757[19:14:22] <Ditchbuster> hmm thats the one i use.. it is easy for me to update and have my less computer litterate friends update automatically
L758[19:15:45] <bananagram> I tried making one manually but there are hidden options somewhere that I couldn't find to set
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L760[19:17:26] <vifino> MultiMC is my launcher of choice, too.
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L762[19:18:30] <NixillUmbreon> If I use dofile, is it executed as if it's code right there in the other code?
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L764[19:19:07] <Cassandra> Yes
L765[19:19:14] <Cassandra> Or at least it should, if I remember correctly.
L766[19:19:23] <Cassandra> It executes on the same context
L767[19:19:44] <Sangar> not quite. it'll use the global environment. i.e. you won't have access to local variables above the dofile call, e.g.
L768[19:21:11] <NixillUmbreon> Well what I'm really concerned with is getting variables declared from the dofile outsidde it.
L769[19:21:21] <Ditchbuster> vifino, does multiMC help with distrubuting modpacks? ie i have my own for my server and when i update mods technic then updates all thier clients
L770[19:22:17] <Sangar> NixillUmbreon, you mean like using it for loading a config? use load / a custom dofile instead; pass a fresh environment, populate it in the loaded script
L771[19:23:10] <vifino> Ditchbuster: Not really, it is a launcher, not a tool to distribute.
L772[19:25:46] <Ditchbuster> ok. thats what i had thought. i never used it but had heard. Technic makes it so easy for me to get my friends playing. tell them a url and my modpack is installed!
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L774[19:30:12] <Cassandra> Ah, makes sense.
L775[19:30:36] <Cassandra> I kind of meant that, but probably described it poorly. :p
L776[19:31:45] <Negi> vifino : Just wait and see.
L777[19:32:14] <vifino> Negi: ..?
L778[19:32:19] <Negi> QuickMods.
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L780[19:37:44] <Negi> I mean, quickmods is basically that, JSON files containing links to mods. A modpack system, sorta.
L781[19:39:02] <Kodos> Soo who wants to help me RAM shop for my wife
L782[19:39:12] <Kodos> It's going to be an adventure
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L784[19:47:41] <Cassandra> http://newegg.com
L785[19:47:43] <Cassandra> Adventure complete.
L786[19:48:00] <Cassandra> No need to thank me, just send me my $3,000 consultation fee.
L787[19:48:48] <SoniEx2> Sangar, does coroutine.yield() work inside string.gsub()?
L788[19:48:58] <Kodos> Cassandra, My wife needs 4 sticks of 4gb DDR2 RAM
L789[19:49:11] <Cassandra> o.O
L790[19:49:36] <Ender> Kodos, good luck finding anything over 1GB for DDR2
L791[19:49:38] <vifino> Kodos: Does she need 4 sticks or want 4 sticks?
L792[19:49:57] <Kodos> We're upgrading her 4 2gb sticks because it's a refurbed computer
L793[19:50:07] <SoniEx2> wait, DDR2?
L794[19:50:08] <Kodos> Yes
L795[19:50:10] <Kodos> I know
L796[19:50:23] <SoniEx2> get a few chips and make DDR2 to DDR3 adapters
L797[19:50:41] <Daiyousei> seems legit
L798[19:50:43] <Ender> also Sangar 1) can the bios define variables, 2) can those variables be passed to the OS in some way?
L799[19:50:44] <vifino> q_q
L800[19:50:47] <SoniEx2> (aka DDR2 to DDR3 boards)
L801[19:50:58] <vifino> Daiyousei: ikr
L802[19:52:59] <bananagram> hm
L803[19:53:14] <bananagram> I renamed options.txt so it would regenerate
L804[19:53:18] <bananagram> and the bug doesnot happen
L805[19:54:28] <Kodos> Loooool, found 4x4gb but they want 400 bucks
L806[19:55:03] <vifino> X_X
L807[19:55:09] <SoniEx2> I can't yield string.gsub ;_;
L808[19:55:18] <SoniEx2> let's go find a workaround >.>
L809[19:56:09] <Ender> why would you want to yield in gsub?
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L811[19:56:24] <SoniEx2> Ender, why wouldn't I?
L812[19:57:25] <SoniEx2> ugh damn it >.>
L813[19:57:32] <SoniEx2> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/machine.lua#L580
L814[19:57:41] <SoniEx2> Sangar, can you change that?
L815[19:57:57] <Sangar> no, because it'd be horrendously slow
L816[19:58:19] <Sangar> and no, i think you can't. looking at the c code it uses the normal call, not the yieldable one
L817[19:59:09] <Ender> ffs mc
L818[19:59:15] <Sangar> Ender, yes and yes. it'll just "call" the os as a function basically
L819[19:59:29] <Ender> ok
L820[19:59:59] <bananagram> I changed some keys in options and the bug returned :|
L821[20:00:09] <Negi> I love how I opened a S3 with ease but that damn Trend won't open.
L822[20:01:29] <Ender> yay, mc is throwing a fit because the ram it was gonna use was used by firefox for a bit
L823[20:01:54] <Negi> Ender: Aaah the joy of Minecraft.
L824[20:01:57] <SoniEx2> Sangar, also in theory you could just use string.find/string.match and stuff to implement gsub, so no not really slow
L825[20:02:06] <Ender> Negi, and low ram
L826[20:02:38] <Negi> Ender : Low RAM ? I tried to run a 1.8 server on 2GB.
L827[20:02:43] <Negi> Failed. Incredible.
L828[20:02:46] <Negi> \o/
L829[20:02:54] <Ender> Negi, i'm tryng to run modded on 2GB
L830[20:03:10] <Negi> That's
L831[20:03:12] <Negi> That's
L832[20:03:14] <Negi> SUICIDE :O
L833[20:03:37] <Ender> well, the computer has 4gb but half is used by background crap
L834[20:03:53] <SoniEx2> Sangar, oh wait, %f, right >.>
L835[20:05:05] <Negi> Ender: Winblows ?
L836[20:05:16] <Ender> Negi, yes, father's pc
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L838[20:05:38] <bananagram> okay, I narrowed it down
L839[20:05:46] <Negi> Ah
L840[20:05:57] <Negi> But why would you want to use your father's PC ?
L841[20:05:59] <bananagram> if I change the inventory key to F the bug happens, but if I keep it at E it doesn't
L842[20:06:16] <Ender> Negi, because my main pc is at my mother's
L843[20:06:48] <Negi> Wuh.
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L845[20:07:23] <bananagram> what a stupid bug
L846[20:07:39] <bananagram> it nly happens if ZI change the open inventory key to F, nt if I chnge it to something else
L847[20:08:00] <bananagram> with colemak f relaces e
L848[20:08:16] * Ender slaps bananagram, "make sense please, kthxbye"
L849[20:08:16] * EnderBot2 laughs
L850[20:08:43] <vifino> Ender: the tablet I'll be getting for christmas has 8gb ram 8D
L851[20:08:53] * vifino is kinda happy-ish
L852[20:08:53] <Ender> vifino, cool
L853[20:08:56] <bananagram> colemak is an alternate keyboard layout, and the key e is replaced with f
L854[20:09:05] * vifino will never be happy :(
L855[20:09:18] * Ender hugs vifino
L856[20:09:21] <bananagram> so I change the inventory key to f, but that specific key causes the bug for some horrible reason
L857[20:09:26] * vifino hugs Ender
L858[20:10:06] <bananagram> I guess I could make it t
L859[20:10:50] <bananagram> I spent two hours finding that bug
L860[20:11:13] <Benguin> it just occurred to me: how do opencomputers work with frames?
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L862[20:11:25] <Ditchbuster> in a for loop is the default always positive one for the step? or will it auto neg or pos steps? ie for x=0,-10 do
L863[20:11:31] <Benguin> do they just stay in whatever state they were in until the frame is done moving?
L864[20:11:34] <Benguin> or do they not work at all
L865[20:12:01] <Ender> for val=start,end,step do
L866[20:12:13] <Ender> where step is how much to do each time
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L868[20:18:05] <Sangar> Benguin, they *should* save their state, since for them it's basically like they were saved with their chunk and then loaded again (and they save no "real" positional data, so that's not an issue)
L869[20:18:46] <Benguin> coolio \o/
L870[20:18:53] <Benguin> OC powered mining machine for me then
L871[20:21:19] <Ditchbuster> Ender, i understand that form of for exists, i was asking about the defualt form. if it figured out the direction or if it was littlerly 1 and not -1.
L872[20:21:30] <Ender> oh
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L874[20:21:38] <Ditchbuster> it seems to say thata it would only be 1 and thata i need to figure out my step if it is anything else
L875[20:22:16] <Ditchbuster> i guess i can try it out :P
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L880[20:28:46] <Negi> vifinoes :c
L881[20:30:53] <Altenius> Used 101% of the bandwidth cap. Hehe
L882[20:31:27] <Kodos> Anyone own, or know anyone who owns, a Razer Tartarus?
L883[20:31:32] <Pwootage> Here's hoping your IRC connection doesn't drop :(
L884[20:31:56] <Pwootage> Kodos: I was thinking about buying one
L885[20:32:28] <Kodos> I need someone who already owns one =(
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L890[20:38:42] <Benguin> Haaaah. Pretty sure I just got a POST error xD
L891[20:38:58] <Benguin> Probably because I don't have a graphics card, a screen, or any storage
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L895[20:46:35] <Benguin> hm. Now I'm getting two beeps instead of three. What does that signify? Can't find a wiki page about it
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L897[20:47:33] <Kodos> Use an Analyzer on the case
L898[20:47:39] <Kodos> It should tell you the last error
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L900[20:49:00] <Benguin> Oh, the crafting recipe for the lua bios is wrong. Just shows the recipe for a blank eeprom. NEI bug probably.
L901[20:49:09] <Kodos> Blank EEPROM and a book iirc
L902[20:49:14] <Benguin> It is
L903[20:49:30] <Benguin> I just didn't look at the recipe while crafting (just shift clicked the items into the table)
L904[20:49:35] <Benguin> didn't realise it didn't craft the lua rom
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L907[20:53:45] <Benguin> Heh man the install process takes a while now.
L908[20:54:02] <Negi> It copies all the things.
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L915[21:20:26] <Altenius> Java is using 10.1 GB of virtual mem and over 6 GB of memory.. I set it to allocate 4 GB :/
L916[21:22:13] <Negi> Java is being Java, Altenius.
L917[21:22:25] <SorryPotato> Altenius: Have you tried turning it off and on, again?
L918[21:22:45] <Altenius> I can't play minecraft because it fills my 8 GB
L919[21:31:52] <Ditchbuster> Altenius, are you sure you are connected to the right Java?
L920[21:32:15] <Ditchbuster> sorry.. that was something comcast asked my gf when troubleshooting her internet
L921[21:32:22] <Pwootage> Virtual memory is a useless statistic
L922[21:32:23] <Ditchbuster> are you sure you are connected to the right internet
L923[21:32:40] <Ditchbuster> isnt virtual memory on the harddrive anywyas?
L924[21:32:47] <Pwootage> Virtual memory can be *anything(
L925[21:32:50] <Pwootage> it's virtual memory space
L926[21:32:55] <Ditchbuster> fair enough
L927[21:33:02] <Pwootage> every process can have (on 64 bit) several exabytes of virtual memory space
L928[21:33:46] <Pwootage> most of it is shared, memory mapped files, or literaly blank
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L933[21:46:34] <Kodos> I need a favor from someone who isn't an idiot
L934[21:46:38] <Kodos> ping, I choose you
L935[21:46:53] <ping> Kodos, i haz the dumb
L936[21:47:01] <Kodos> You can no brain you haz the dumb?
L937[21:47:07] <ping> yes, am cloudy
L938[21:47:15] <Kodos> Lol
L939[21:47:29] <Kodos> I just need a step by step instruction list on how to install Linux and then remove WIndows from a computer
L940[21:47:45] <ping> you can remove windows with windows
L941[21:47:54] <ping> windows even removes itself sometimes
L942[21:47:56] <Kodos> But then I'd need Linux and I have no idea what I'm doing
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L944[21:48:02] <ping> such a strange peice of software
L945[21:48:05] <Kodos> So I want to put it on a stick first
L946[21:48:28] <ping> google "ubuntu on a flash drive"
L947[21:48:38] <Kodos> Linux Mint*
L948[21:48:46] <ping> close enough
L949[21:48:47] <vifino> *Arch
L950[21:48:48] <Kodos> I'm going with Mint :>
L951[21:48:57] <Kodos> wat
L952[21:48:58] <vifino> All hail Arch Linux.
L953[21:49:06] <Ender> Kodos, mint has an option to overwrite windows
L954[21:49:12] <Kodos> Lovely
L955[21:49:13] <Ender> in the installer
L956[21:49:14] <ping> Kodos, if you use mint, dont expect me to give any answer besides google
L957[21:49:19] <Kodos> ping, k
L958[21:49:30] <Cassandra> Kodos, my suggestion is
L959[21:49:38] <ping> oh god
L960[21:49:40] <ping> someone new
L961[21:49:41] <ping> kill it
L962[21:49:47] <Cassandra> If you're not sure how to do it on your own, you probably shouldn't do it yet. >.>
L963[21:49:59] <Kodos> Cassandra, if I don't try to do it on my own, I'll never learn
L964[21:50:04] <vifino> Kodos: If you use arch, you can use the arch wiki, the best place to get info about things in linux, in my opinion.
L965[21:50:15] <Cassandra> Is this your main computer or one you're willing to sacrifice while you tinker with it?
L966[21:50:21] <Kodos> It's on a netbook
L967[21:50:22] <vifino> Even if you don't use arch, the arch wiki is love.
L968[21:50:22] <ping> okay, fuck FFTs
L969[21:50:24] <vifino> Pure love.
L970[21:50:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: Mint is a wonderful distro to start, I wish you a lot of fun. ;)
L971[21:50:32] <Cassandra> Oh, if it's just something you're willing to play with then have at it.
L972[21:50:43] <Kodos> I'm literally just using the thing for IRC, and throwing together random code while I'm at McDonald's
L973[21:50:53] <Cassandra> Any Liux distro with a graphical installer will give you the chance to format your drive. If you want to get rid of Windows, just format the entire thing and use it all for Linux.
L974[21:50:56] <Cassandra> Also
L975[21:51:03] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Arch is a wonderful thing to create wonderful things! D:
L976[21:51:05] <Kodos> My main PC is windows, and I highly doubt I'll change from it until I know a TON of what I"m doing
L977[21:51:13] <Kodos> With Linux
L978[21:51:16] <Cassandra> The Arch Wiki is probably the best resource you could start looking at when you want to do specific things once you've got Mint (or whatever other distro you want) installed.
L979[21:51:25] <Kodos> Well
L980[21:51:25] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Yes, but Arch is not for beginners.
L981[21:51:34] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: :3
L982[21:51:44] <Kodos> I did find a thing on Amazon that's Linux Mint preinstalled on a stick
L983[21:51:54] <Kodos> But I think I'd rather have it on a 1TB usb drive
L984[21:51:55] <vifino> >_<
L985[21:52:01] <DeanIsaKitty> *cough*unetbootin*cough*
L986[21:52:05] <vifino> ^
L987[21:52:05] <Kodos> So I'll just get one of those instead
L988[21:52:09] <Cassandra> I'm not a fan of most Linux distros. I'll use Arch, but Linux doesn't have any WMs that appeal to me.
L989[21:52:32] <Kodos> Okay, new plan
L990[21:52:36] <vifino> Enlightement is my favourite.
L991[21:52:41] <Kodos> Who wants to help me find a good 1TB+ portable HDD, 90 dollar budget
L992[21:52:46] <vifino> *Enlightement
L993[21:52:54] <vifino> Kodos: ...
L994[21:53:03] <Ender> Sangar, with the flash program, is there a way to write the current bios to a file?
L995[21:53:15] <Cassandra> I was kind of happy with i3
L996[21:53:26] <Kodos> What sorcery is this
L997[21:53:53] <Cassandra> https://twitter.com/Minalien/status/477695872881655808
L998[21:54:12] <Sangar> Ender, hmm, nope. guess it could make sense, tho. open a ticket.
L999[21:54:22] <Ender> Sangar, will do
L1000[21:54:44] <Cassandra> Anymore I tend to stick to OS X, with the exception of when I'm playing games. But soon even then I'll not be using Windows, because I'll be running on a fancy new Retina 5k iMac. >.>
L1001[21:55:00] <Cassandra> I've got a Mac Pro at work. Hooooooly crap is that thing pretty.
L1002[21:55:03] <Kodos> I want more than anything a gamecab and a triple monitor setup
L1003[21:56:03] <vifino> Cassandra: Switching between Enlightement and i3 every day ;)
L1004[21:56:33] <Cassandra> :p
L1005[21:56:40] <NixillUmbreon> you know what I think would be cool?
L1006[21:56:48] <NixillUmbreon> a double chest with a workbench built in
L1007[21:57:00] <NixillUmbreon> so you have the chest inventory on the left, 6 wide 9 tall instead of the other way around
L1008[21:57:12] <Cassandra> Sooooo, the table from Tinker's Construct.
L1009[21:57:25] <Kodos> NixillUmbreon, go look at a Draconic Chest from Draconic Evolution
L1010[21:57:38] <Kodos> That bitch is an RF Powered furnace, crafting grid, AND a big ass storage amount in one
L1011[21:58:08] <Cassandra> Personally, I hate the compactness of modern mods. >.>
L1012[21:58:13] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1013[21:58:57] <Cassandra> Which is why even though I have TE to double my ores, I take the more expensive & less efficient (only gives me about 1/4 at full pressure) ore dupe route of Flaxbeard's Steam Power now.
L1014[21:59:47] <NixillUmbreon> okay so what I want is basically just a chest
L1015[21:59:51] <NixillUmbreon> and then there's a button in it
L1016[22:00:16] <NixillUmbreon> when you click that button, you click somewhere in the chest and it takes the inventory in the 3x3 grid centered on that spot and treats it as a crafting recipe
L1017[22:00:50] <NixillUmbreon> crafts as many as possible in-place, then puts the result in the first space in that spot that empties out
L1018[22:01:23] <Altenius> I switched to oracle JRE and now java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
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L1020[22:01:29] <Cassandra> Sounds like you have a mod idea, NixillUmbreon. ;)
L1021[22:01:37] <NixillUmbreon> x3
L1022[22:01:45] <Cassandra> Shouldn't be that hard to write
L1023[22:01:49] <Daiyousei> jre 7?
L1024[22:02:05] <Cassandra> Probably. Certainly isn't JRE8
L1025[22:02:15] <Altenius> jre7
L1026[22:02:26] <Daiyousei> y u no 8
L1027[22:02:35] <Altenius> Does MC work with 8 now?
L1028[22:02:39] <Daiyousei> it has always worked with 8
L1029[22:02:45] <NixillUmbreon> also I'm gonna make a program that basically puts this chat in the server I'm on
L1030[22:02:50] <Altenius> wot
L1031[22:02:52] <NixillUmbreon> if only there were a way for computers to capture ingame chat
L1032[22:03:19] <Altenius> It works with forge now?
L1033[22:03:25] <Daiyousei> has always worked with forge
L1034[22:03:40] <SandraNicole> NixillUmbreon: computronics chat box.
L1035[22:03:52] <Daiyousei> or at least for me
L1036[22:03:53] <NixillUmbreon> *without another new mod
L1037[22:04:00] <Daiyousei> used java 8 since the early devbuilds of it
L1038[22:04:14] <Caitlyn> Daiyousei, No it hasn't there was a ConcurrentModification issue in forge 1.6 and early 1.7 caused by 8u20
L1039[22:04:26] <Daiyousei> never happened to me
L1040[22:04:42] <Caitlyn> Then you weren't runnign forge 1.6, or early 1.7.
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L1042[22:04:53] <Daiyousei> i have been running forge 1.6
L1043[22:04:54] <Altenius> But it's okay now?
L1044[22:04:57] <Daiyousei> yes
L1045[22:05:12] <SandraNicole> NixillUmbreon: what are you doing without computronics..... OC is just not powerful enough without it.
L1046[22:05:26] <NixillUmbreon> does it provide more functions to the debug card?
L1047[22:05:31] <Caitlyn> It's fixed in current forge 1.7 yes, still can't use it on 1.6
L1048[22:05:42] <Pwootage> Computronics adds like a dozen awesome blocks
L1049[22:05:44] <Daiyousei> i still can use it on 1.6
L1050[22:05:54] <Caitlyn> I can't use Java 8 in 1.6, nor can quiet a few people I talk to.
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L1052[22:06:02] <Caitlyn> Please, tell my java that it's wrong then.
L1053[22:06:04] <Daiyousei> what os
L1054[22:06:04] <Caitlyn> I'll wait.
L1055[22:06:19] <Caitlyn> Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows Tech preview, Fedora 20, Ubuntu 14...
L1056[22:06:24] <Daiyousei> weird
L1057[22:06:27] <Daiyousei> because it never happened to me
L1058[22:06:34] <Altenius> What are you using Daiyousei
L1059[22:06:38] <Daiyousei> arch linux
L1060[22:06:41] <Altenius> same
L1061[22:07:10] <Caitlyn> http://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/2fe3sa/psa_java_8_update_20_and_later_is_incompatible/
L1062[22:07:21] <Daiyousei> still works for me
L1063[22:07:34] <Caitlyn> Theres a coremod that fixes it it seems..
L1064[22:07:36] <Pwootage> java -version
L1065[22:07:44] <Daiyousei> Pwootage: but im on windows atm
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L1067[22:07:57] <Daiyousei> not rebooting just to check my java version
L1068[22:07:58] <Daiyousei> :p
L1069[22:08:05] <Pwootage> My guess is you're not on u20, but i could be wrong :P
L1070[22:08:09] <Daiyousei> mabe
L1071[22:08:10] <Daiyousei> maybe
L1072[22:08:10] <Daiyousei> idk
L1073[22:08:35] <Caitlyn> It changed the behaviour of collections.sort if the collection was a list. Prior to 8u20 it always cloned before sorting. Now, it sorts lists in place. Given FML is sorting a list that is being actively iterated, you now get a CME where you didn't before. Bloody annoying. Back port is infeasible without a lot of effort. 1.6.4 is dead.
L1074[22:08:45] <Caitlyn> So yeah.. sorta should happen to everyone every time..
L1075[22:10:38] <Altenius> Does 1.6 work with u25?
L1076[22:10:54] <Caitlyn> It shouldn't....
L1077[22:10:57] <Benguin> I can't get `setBundledOutput(sides.front,colors.white,15)` to work for me
L1078[22:10:57] <Caitlyn> but who knows.
L1079[22:11:08] <Benguin> it doesn't error, but it doesn't set the redstone strength either
L1080[22:11:10] <Caitlyn> http://files.minecraftforge.net/LegacyJavaFixer/legacyjavafixer-1.0.jar This coremod might fix it.
L1081[22:11:34] <Caitlyn> Altenius, try that if you CME with 1.6 JRE 8u20+
L1082[22:11:34] <Benguin> (I'm putting a bundled cable from Project red on the front, connected to a white red alloy cable..)
L1083[22:11:44] <Ender> Benguin, try 255
L1084[22:11:48] <Ender> instead of 15
L1085[22:12:07] <Benguin> No luck
L1086[22:12:18] <Ender> huh
L1087[22:12:30] <vifino> Pwootage: java version "1.7.0_71"
L1088[22:12:31] <vifino> ;)
L1089[22:12:56] <vifino> Ooooor openjdk version "1.8.0_25"
L1090[22:13:22] <Pwootage> My default on osx is apparently 1.8.0_11, huh
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L1092[22:14:06] <Benguin> Picture of the setup: http://i.imgur.com/FXHYcel.png
L1093[22:14:33] <Pwootage> Benguin: is that a remain-in-motion frame? Or what sort of frame?
L1094[22:14:34] <scj643> tHi
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L1096[22:14:46] <Benguin> Pwootage: funkylocomotion. Pretty much the same mod
L1097[22:14:54] <Benguin> except by different people
L1098[22:14:58] <Benguin> this one is more minimal.
L1099[22:15:18] <scj643> My main laptop's charger died so i can't play mc
L1100[22:15:19] <Benguin> And a bit more hardmode
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L1104[22:18:41] <SandraNicole> Benguin: but that bundled cable won't be transported with the rest of the frame.
L1105[22:19:59] <Pwootage> Yeah, that's a good point (if easily fixed)
L1106[22:20:02] <Caitlyn> Wait... doesn't the cable have to terminate at the front of the computer?
L1107[22:20:08] <NixServer> hello?
L1108[22:20:11] <Caitlyn> like the cable bumps the front not placed on the front?
L1109[22:20:16] <NixillUmbreon> hi cakelover :3
L1110[22:20:25] <Benguin> Caitlyn: it doesn't with regular non-insulated red-alloy wire
L1111[22:20:28] <NixServer> holy crap nix actually got this to work o.o
L1112[22:20:29] <Benguin> I got that to work just fine
L1113[22:20:48] <Caitlyn> I've never got bundled cables to work like that.
L1114[22:20:53] <Benguin> SandraNicole: What makes you say that? I think frames can move
L1115[22:21:02] <Benguin> Caitlyn: Maybe bundled ones are different from regular ones, I'll try
L1116[22:21:04] <NixillUmbreon> cake, the IRC disk in the computer came with the mod, I didn't make it :P
L1117[22:21:10] <NixServer> alright
L1118[22:21:10] <NixServer> XD
L1119[22:21:23] <NixillUmbreon> <- also, cake, the messages you see from this nick I'm sending from outside Minecraft
L1120[22:21:38] <Benguin> Caitlyn: You're correct
L1121[22:21:40] <Benguin> thanks for the held
L1122[22:21:41] <Benguin> help*
L1123[22:21:44] <NixServer> figured :P
L1124[22:21:46] <NixillUmbreon> guys, the person currently on from my server is cakelover78
L1125[22:21:51] <Ender> errr, i'd prefer not to have server bots/bridges in the channel
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L1127[22:22:03] <Benguin> Ender: it's not a bridge iirc.
L1128[22:22:05] <Benguin> just an irc client
L1129[22:22:12] <NixillUmbreon> yeah, just a client that's on from my server atm
L1130[22:22:22] <Ender> that counts as a bridge
L1131[22:22:25] <NixillUmbreon> ...
L1132[22:22:29] <Ender> it's bridging irc to mc
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L1134[22:22:34] <cakelover78> there we go
L1135[22:22:36] <cakelover78> :P
L1136[22:22:37] <Ender> k
L1137[22:22:51] <Benguin> Dang, everything except the bundled cable moves with the frame. That's super frustrating.
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L1139[22:22:54] <Benguin> SandraNicole: that's a silly thing.
L1140[22:23:08] <Pwootage> Benguin: it's not next to a frame
L1141[22:23:09] <Pwootage> that's why
L1142[22:23:13] <NixillUmbreon> ender: would it be okay to have a one-way bridge to get this chat in my server?
L1143[22:23:20] <Benguin> nah I placed one since then Pwootage
L1144[22:23:26] <Ender> NixillUmbreon, sure
L1145[22:23:32] <Benguin> it pops off even if it's placed on top of a frame
L1146[22:23:47] <Benguin> But only the bundled cable. The insulated cable moves just fine
L1147[22:23:51] <Ender> or you could give your players the irc mod (if it is one) that auto connects to here
L1148[22:23:55] <Sangar> isn't that just openirc? doesn't that count as a client? >_>
L1149[22:24:06] <NixillUmbreon> sangar: I am in fact just using the IRC loot disk
L1150[22:24:32] <Pwootage> "CTCP-reply VERSION from cakelover78 : Minecraft/OpenComputers Lua 5.2"
L1151[22:24:54] <Caitlyn> Heh.. dat version reply
L1152[22:25:01] <cakelover78> o.o
L1153[22:25:05] <Ender> ah, openirc is cool, just not the entire server comming through one connection please
L1154[22:25:05] <cakelover78> what the crap was that
L1155[22:25:05] <Benguin> Sangar: it's the same as an irc client in functionality, I'm pretty sure
L1156[22:25:19] <cakelover78> ender, it's only me and nix on the server XD
L1157[22:25:20] <Sangar> there we go, misunderstanding cleared up
L1158[22:25:24] <Benguin> If it's being /used/ as a bridge, that's when you have to say no
L1159[22:25:33] <Ender> ^
L1160[22:25:37] <NixillUmbreon> alright
L1161[22:25:47] <NixillUmbreon> there should be an #ocservers channel that exists for bridges everywhere
L1162[22:25:58] <Pwootage> combine ALL THE SERVERS
L1163[22:26:02] <NixillUmbreon> yeah xD
L1164[22:26:26] <Ender> could do that as it goes
L1165[22:26:29] <cakelover78> alright this is too odd, i'm done with this XD
L1166[22:26:30] <Benguin> hmm maybe MFR rednet cable will move with the frame
L1167[22:26:40] <Benguin> cakelover78: I didn't like the irc program either
L1168[22:26:50] <Pwootage> I thought rednet was broken in OC?
L1169[22:26:55] <Benguin> though, I managed to bug it out massively by trying to supply it with a password
L1170[22:26:56] <Sangar> wouldn't that be against the tos of esper tho? >_> (using channels purely for routing) thought i'd read something like that
L1171[22:27:05] <NixillUmbreon> hmm
L1172[22:27:10] <Caitlyn> IIRC yes..
L1173[22:27:10] <Ender> Sangar, yes, in a way
L1174[22:27:11] <Caitlyn> it is
L1175[22:27:20] <NixillUmbreon> lemme check
L1176[22:27:27] <bananagram> the hard drive access sound sounds unhealthy
L1177[22:27:29] <Caitlyn> but use pc-logix we don't care! :P
L1178[22:27:30] <Ender> we could always just balance it out with normal users
L1179[22:27:31] <scj643> I wonder if it would be possible to intigrate oc with wolfram's apis
L1180[22:27:35] <Ender> Caitlyn, true
L1181[22:27:51] <Benguin> bananagram: hah, true. It sounds more like uh.. A printer I guess?
L1182[22:27:55] <Caitlyn> PC-Logix IRC, we don't care as long as you don't kill the network!
L1183[22:27:58] <Pwootage> scj643: of course it is - you have raw TCP socket access
L1184[22:28:05] <bananagram> it sounds like it's made of stone
L1185[22:28:10] <Sangar> it's the recording of an actual hdd tho, a non-broken one :X
L1186[22:28:25] <NixillUmbreon> doesn't look like it actually
L1187[22:28:28] <Caitlyn> lol an older HDD though..
L1188[22:28:30] <Pwootage> SSDs in OC when?
L1189[22:28:36] <Ender> Pwootage, nevar
L1190[22:28:36] <Benguin> Sangar: most of the time HDD's sound sort of like... a quiet clicky noise
L1191[22:28:40] <NixillUmbreon> I don't see anything against a bridging chatroom in the charter
L1192[22:28:46] <NixillUmbreon> ( http://esper.net/charter.php )
L1193[22:28:50] <Ender> unless you can smelt it and get a cloud storage device
L1194[22:28:55] <Benguin> rather than a beefy sort of scratching.
L1195[22:28:57] <Caitlyn> NixillUmbreon, https://www.esper.net/bots.php
L1196[22:28:57] <Pwootage> ahahaha
L1197[22:29:05] <Ender> ninja'd by Caitlyn
L1198[22:29:07] <Sangar> benguin: but that would be boring, so it sounds like it's searching back and for a lot ;)
L1199[22:29:14] <Benguin> I do like the sound of it, myself
L1200[22:29:14] <Sangar> *back and forwards
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L1203[22:30:02] <Caitlyn> It'd have to be constantly moderated and have active NON BRIDGE chatters. We had a channel here that got 2 IRC Bridges banned and we were actively chatting in the channel not via the bridge.
L1204[22:30:10] <Caitlyn> Sooo, I'd have to err on the side of Nope not on esper.
L1205[22:30:25] <Caitlyn> and by banned I mean glined with no expire.
L1206[22:30:41] <NixillUmbreon> ... so yeah I'm noping out of that right now
L1207[22:30:42] <Caitlyn> to this day that server is STILL banned from esper.
L1208[22:30:52] <NixillUmbreon> considering that my server is running off a laptop ten feet away from me
L1209[22:30:57] <NixillUmbreon> and so would be the bot if I had one
L1210[22:31:06] <Stary2001> :
L1211[22:31:07] <Stary2001> :p
L1212[22:31:37] <Caitlyn> Which is why we moved said channel to PC-Logix...
L1213[22:31:59] <Ender> NixillUmbreon, PC-Logix is always open :)
L1214[22:32:10] <NixillUmbreon> what's -- you know what, google will tell me
L1215[22:32:15] <Caitlyn> Not much...
L1216[22:32:17] <Caitlyn> :P
L1217[22:32:21] <Caitlyn> I'm in the process of redoing the site
L1218[22:32:24] <Ender> irc.pc-logix.com
L1219[22:32:31] <Ender> standard irc ports
L1220[22:32:32] <Caitlyn> ninja'd me
L1221[22:32:33] <Caitlyn> lol
L1222[22:32:36] <Ender> mwahaha
L1223[22:32:50] <NixillUmbreon> anyway
L1224[22:33:01] <NixillUmbreon> I'm gonna disconnect the computer in my server and throw away the loot disk now
L1225[22:33:06] <Caitlyn> Currently 10 servers over a decent geographic spread
L1226[22:33:12] <Stary2001> lol yep
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L1228[22:33:38] <NixillUmbreon> cake did that a while ago it seems xD
L1229[22:33:52] <Pwootage> Anyone know if anyone's made a fully distributed irc-type network? Just curious if it's been one
L1230[22:33:54] <Pwootage> done
L1231[22:34:02] <NixillUmbreon> brb
L1232[22:34:27] <Ender> Pwootage, that'd be hard
L1233[22:34:37] <Pwootage> It would be hard, but I think it's possible
L1234[22:35:14] <Ender> you'd need like hash checking on all messages because otherwise you'd get a lot of loops
L1235[22:35:34] <Ender> (assuming distributed means like a star network layout)
L1236[22:35:44] <Ender> (i.e. all connected to all)
L1237[22:36:15] <Caitlyn> Oh man... what a nightmare
L1238[22:36:27] <Pwootage> I was thinking not that, because holy cow connections
L1239[22:36:39] <Ender> Pwootage, in what way then?
L1240[22:36:56] <Pwootage> You don't need everyone connected to everyone in order to send messages across a network :P
L1241[22:37:16] <Ender> i thought that's what you meant by distributed
L1242[22:37:46] <Pwootage> Still distributed as in no master server but you can still use network graphs for group chat
L1243[22:38:05] <Caitlyn> Something like TOR might work.... each client has the chance to become a node, some nodes can become supernodes supernodes interconnect and nodes connect to supernodes clients connect to nodes
L1244[22:38:24] <Pwootage> I mean I guess Skype was serverless for a while
L1245[22:38:29] <Pwootage> (well, mostly serverless)
L1246[22:38:33] <Negi> Skype is hybrid.
L1247[22:38:47] <Pwootage> it's now a lot more centralized post-MS buyout, because phones
L1248[22:38:50] <Caitlyn> yeah skype's servers just broker P2P connections
L1249[22:39:06] <Negi> I still have a P2P group conv, tho.
L1250[22:39:39] <DeanIsaKitty> If you want a serverless state something like a bus layout is probably the best Idea. Single nodes dying would not affect the network except of the node dying.
L1251[22:40:25] <Pwootage> Would be an interesting project, but i'm not particularly interesting in writing dijstra's or UDP nat traversal
L1252[22:40:33] <Negi> I should probably stop listening to Make Me Realize looped over.
L1253[22:40:54] <Negi> Made*
L1254[22:43:50] <Benguin> Ender: I think you meant mesh network. Star networks are centralised, right? I.E., all connected to one node.
L1255[22:43:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Benguin: Yes.
L1256[22:44:33] <Ender> yeah, i meant mesh
L1257[22:44:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Star networks are what you have commonly with switches. A (fully connected) mesh is everything to everything.
L1258[22:44:44] <Benguin> Just checking
L1259[22:44:59] <Benguin> I remember doing this in IT last year
L1260[22:45:02] <Benguin> suuuch a boring unit
L1261[22:45:17] * Ender loves networking but hasnt done it in a few years
L1262[22:45:17] <Caitlyn> <LanteaBot> Caitlyn: Thread count: 18
L1263[22:45:18] <Caitlyn> q_q
L1264[22:45:44] <Caitlyn> which is down from 28 at least...
L1265[22:46:01] <Benguin> Ender: the guy I had teaching my Networking class was someone who told me, twice, that "transistors are far far too big to fit into CPUs" because he was thinking of vacuum tubes.
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L1267[22:46:13] <NixillUmbreon> O.o
L1268[22:46:18] <Benguin> And then he said that what's /actually/ in CPU's are "tiny switches"
L1269[22:46:18] <Caitlyn> O_O
L1270[22:46:26] <Benguin> And I sort of facepalmed.
L1271[22:46:32] <Ender> urghh,
L1272[22:46:32] <Caitlyn> You mean.... transistors? lolol
L1273[22:46:33] <Benguin> He's the second-worst teacher I've had
L1274[22:46:34] <Caitlyn> wow...
L1275[22:46:38] * Ender dies of wat overload
L1276[22:47:25] <Benguin> The worst one was a substitute who had no basic computing skills, couldn't teach us anything computer related, and would often turn around and ask us questions like "is DOS a programming language? That's what windows is written in right? Linux is written in UNIX?"
L1277[22:47:35] <Benguin> we had him for way too many weeks while our actual teacher was ill
L1278[22:47:45] <Caitlyn> _-_
L1279[22:48:19] * Ender grabs a Desert Eagle and blows his head off
L1280[22:49:14] <Benguin> I think our head of IT realised after that though, and then he was replaced with soemone half decent. /He/ had just come out of his 10 years of retirement, but that was okay because our course mostly covers content created 10 years ago anyway x3
L1281[22:49:29] <Ender> lol
L1282[22:50:07] <Ender> oh look, minecraft is using all my sytem resources just to close ¬_¬
L1283[22:50:30] * Ender kills the process
L1284[22:50:44] <Benguin> sounds like it's crashing as you close it, to me
L1285[22:50:49] <Benguin> Does that for me sometimes
L1286[22:51:04] <Benguin> and then the java process sticks around hogging a core even once it /appears/ to have closed
L1287[22:51:11] <Ender> if i leave it, it will close after about a minute
L1288[22:54:28] <Benguin> Is what someone said earlier, about rednet not working with OC at the moment true?
L1289[22:54:49] <Negi> All that teacher talk reminded me on the EES substitute teacher we had at the beginning of the year.
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L1291[22:55:04] <Benguin> EES?
L1292[22:55:20] <Sangar> Benguin, haven't heard of that, if it is please open a ticket on github
L1293[22:55:31] <Benguin> I don't know anything about it, but I'll be testing soon
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L1295[22:55:44] <Benguin> This other person wasn't sure either
L1296[22:55:44] <Kodos> Benguin, make sure you test with a Tier 2 Redsstone card
L1297[22:55:50] <Benguin> Of course
L1298[22:56:00] <Kodos> You'd be surprised...
L1299[22:56:02] <Kodos> Speaking of which
L1300[22:56:06] <Kodos> I need to grab WRCBE
L1301[22:56:12] <Benguin> Well it is new-ish to require that I guess
L1302[22:56:14] <Kodos> Because magical redstone signals =D
L1303[22:56:34] <Kodos> Sangar, with all available things for OC atm, what would be the best method of making a morse telegraph
L1304[22:57:09] <Benguin> can screens register long-presses on the screen via touch? or are they just clicks
L1305[22:57:21] <Kodos> Just touches, since holding RC spams it
L1306[22:57:21] <Benguin> that'd be a cool way to implement the input for that
L1307[22:57:24] <Benguin> ah
L1308[22:57:44] <Benguin> could just put a delay there, make it so that 2 rapid touches counts as a dash.
L1309[22:57:45] <Negi> Benguin: EES is Electronics - Engineering Sciences. Well actually it'd be more of ESE.
L1310[22:57:57] <Benguin> Negi: was guessing at the first two, couldn't think of the S.
L1311[22:58:54] <Sangar> if you drag there's a move and up event, also, though (can't remember what they're named)
L1312[22:59:26] <Ender> drag + drop ?
L1313[22:59:27] <Sangar> as for telegraphs... i dunno >_> light detectors plus lamps? :X
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L1316[22:59:34] <Sangar> Ender, yeah, i think so
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L1318[23:03:54] <SandraNicole> OC has light detectors?
L1319[23:04:10] <Sangar> mc has?
L1320[23:04:23] <Ender> it has daylight sensors
L1321[23:04:30] <Sangar> yeah, those
L1322[23:05:01] <Caitlyn> %isup https://github.com
L1323[23:05:01] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: http://https://github.com Is Down.
L1324[23:05:03] <Caitlyn> yay...
L1325[23:05:26] <Ender> .gs
L1326[23:05:27] <EnderBot2> GitHub Status: good: Everything operating normally.. Last updated: 2014-12-11T04:50:19Z
L1327[23:05:36] <TabletCube> Caitlyn: is up here
L1328[23:05:45] <Ender> wait
L1329[23:05:53] <Benguin> pah
L1330[23:05:57] <Ender> <MichiBot> Caitlyn: http://https://github.com Is Down.
L1331[23:05:57] <Benguin> rednet cables don't even support microblocks
L1332[23:05:57] <Caitlyn> Well it's down to me, and it's down in new york
L1333[23:06:02] <Caitlyn> and it's down in la
L1334[23:06:06] <Caitlyn> and it's down in jersy..
L1335[23:06:07] <Caitlyn> sooo :p
L1336[23:06:15] <Sangar> yeah. down for me too. worked a minute ago :/
L1337[23:06:15] <Shuudoushi> it's all good for me... http://puu.sh/dH1eZ/a312b11863.png
L1338[23:06:20] <Ender> Caitlyn, look at the bolded areas
L1339[23:06:25] <Ender> also working fine for me
L1340[23:06:25] <Sangar> and now it works again
L1341[23:06:30] <Caitlyn> Ender, it requested the right address
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L1343[23:06:34] <Caitlyn> the display is borked.
L1344[23:06:37] <Ender> ah
L1345[23:06:49] <Sangar> also, it's the 24th where i live, so
L1346[23:06:53] <Sangar> http://youtu.be/W5JTRKdup7s
L1347[23:06:54] -Kibibyte- [Sangar] OpenComputers: Christmas Presents! | by fnuecke | 12m44s | 4h3m ago | 7 views | Rated: -1.00/5.00
L1348[23:06:54] <Ender> and down :/
L1349[23:07:21] <Shuudoushi> still up for me...
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L1351[23:09:53] <Ender> :O
L1352[23:10:14] <Ender> Sangar, should have been hunter killers
L1353[23:10:44] <Shuudoushi> can I make it attack stuff >.>
L1354[23:10:46] <Caitlyn> :O
L1355[23:10:53] <Sangar> :P
L1356[23:11:04] <Shuudoushi> DRONE ARMY WILL LIVE!!!
L1357[23:11:05] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1358[23:11:32] <Negi> Oh my effin geodes, stop this, ISP, let me watch Xmas video.
L1359[23:11:50] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1360[23:11:52] <Sangar> i'd love to let you have a dev build, but i can't push to github right now because it's down every other second
L1361[23:11:59] <Ender> lol
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L1363[23:12:09] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: mediafire?
L1364[23:12:24] <Shuudoushi> i can even let you use my account lol
L1365[23:12:39] <Ender> Sangar, the drone seems elasticated in a way
L1366[23:12:52] <Sangar> i could just host it on the server jenkins lives on, and i may do so if github doesn't get its shit together soon :X
L1367[23:13:12] <Shuudoushi> lol, kk
L1368[23:13:23] <Sangar> yeah, it goes full throttle whereever it's told to :P have fun writing a nav program that counteracts that ;)
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L1370[23:14:03] <Ender> :O leash
L1371[23:14:03] <Shuudoushi> when do you think you can get it placing tnt and lighting it :3
L1372[23:14:08] <Shuudoushi> lmao Ender
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L1374[23:15:19] <Ender> Sangar, can it spin?
L1375[23:15:21] <Shuudoushi> is it bad I still can't figure out how to write a properly running eeprom...
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L1377[23:16:07] <TabletCube> Negi: what's wrong
L1378[23:16:10] <Sangar> Ender, since it has no visually recognizable "front" i decided against that.
L1379[23:16:17] <Ender> ok
L1380[23:16:21] <Shuudoushi> T.T
L1381[23:16:30] <Shuudoushi> put a little dot on the "front" lol
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L1383[23:17:02] <Negi> TabletCube: Imma tell you what's wrong. I live in France. And in France, Internet access is generally SLOOOOW
L1384[23:17:14] <NixillUmbreon> Ender, Sangar: Whatcha talking about?
L1385[23:17:14] <Ender> Sangar, for moving the drone (i'll rewatch the video in a bit) are the coordinates relative to where it started or it's current position?
L1386[23:17:31] <Ender> NixillUmbreon, <@Sangar> http://youtu.be/W5JTRKdup7s
L1387[23:17:32] -Kibibyte- [Ender] OpenComputers: Christmas Presents! | by fnuecke | 12m44s | 4h14m ago | 13 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
L1388[23:17:45] <Shuudoushi> current
L1389[23:17:47] <Sangar> relative to its current target (there should've been an annotation where i clarified that, if it didn't show up google is stupid)
L1390[23:18:03] <Shuudoushi> it showed up dor me lol
L1391[23:18:10] <Sangar> good
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L1393[23:18:40] <Shuudoushi> s/dor/for
L1394[23:18:40] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> it showed up for me lol
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L1397[23:19:41] <Shuudoushi> YOU HUNG THE SHEEP Sangar!!! YOU EVIL FUCK!!! lol
L1398[23:19:42] <Benguin> ooh
L1399[23:19:48] <Benguin> tier 2 microcontrollers
L1400[23:19:53] <Benguin> would be useful for my current build
L1401[23:20:10] <Sangar> :>
L1402[23:20:27] <Sangar> what's christmas without a ritual sacrifice? :P
L1403[23:20:40] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1404[23:21:10] <Sangar> all right, jenkins is building \o/
L1405[23:21:23] <Shuudoushi> \o/
L1406[23:21:29] <Shuudoushi> brb, need fewdz!
L1407[23:21:40] <Ender> Sangar, request: if they're high up and get shutdown (either via power loss or user) make them fall faster and faster then explode on impact (or break)
L1408[23:22:14] <Benguin> and drop an undamaged EEPROM
L1409[23:22:22] <Benguin> so you don't lose your code ;P
L1410[23:22:29] <Benguin> although you'd probably have a backup anyway
L1411[23:22:29] <Ender> no, make it damaged
L1412[23:22:30] <Negi> Sangar: So I don't have to sacrifice human souls, this year ?
L1413[23:22:34] <Sangar> nah, they're floating by the power of endstone, it's intentional they float down ;)
L1414[23:22:41] <Ender> k
L1415[23:22:48] <Sangar> Negi, only if you want to ;)
L1416[23:23:32] <NixillUmbreon> I'd like creative versions of tablets/drones.
L1417[23:24:09] <NixillUmbreon> Also, do drones have health?
L1418[23:24:27] <Negi> Last time I checked, a tablet configured correctly was more than largely enough to play around without losing power.
L1419[23:24:44] <Ditchbuster> Yea creative ones you don't need assembler for
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L1421[23:25:00] <Benguin> tablets will be great for controlling a drone with
L1422[23:25:21] <NixillUmbreon> I want to be able to use both debug and redstone or networking cards, but the absolute *requirement* of a graphics card cripples that.
L1423[23:27:26] <Ender> Sangar, how would you power them? just park them next to a charger i presume?
L1424[23:27:35] <Sangar> exactly
L1425[23:27:45] <Benguin> Sangar: would be cool if you could control the colour of the lights on the drone. And then make the light visible from below, use it for easy status visibility
L1426[23:28:18] <Sangar> Benguin, hmm, neat idea. i might add that.
L1427[23:28:32] <Benguin> Preferably all 4 individually
L1428[23:28:33] <Shuudoushi> and maybe give off a small light source
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L1430[23:28:42] <Shuudoushi> like a light level of 5 or something
L1431[23:28:48] <Benguin> that would be iffy I bet
L1432[23:28:56] <Sangar> i'll have to look into how i can hook into dynamiclights for that
L1433[23:29:03] <Benguin> that'd work though
L1434[23:29:05] <Sangar> if someone has experience with that lemme know :P
L1435[23:29:10] <Shuudoushi> wait, mobs can't spawn in light more than 7 right?
L1436[23:29:18] <Benguin> Shuudoushi: most, yeah.
L1437[23:29:30] <Shuudoushi> then a light level of 7 instead of 5 lol
L1438[23:29:45] <Shuudoushi> but a small range
L1439[23:29:55] <Sangar> oh, and as for creative tier tablets/stuffs... eeeeh, i guess. open a ticket.
L1440[23:30:31] <Shuudoushi> I want a computer desk, but I think that's something I'd have to talk to the bibliocraft people about lol
L1441[23:31:12] <Shuudoushi> I would make it myself... but I cannot Java to save my life...
L1442[23:33:13] <Negi> I love the motion animations for the drones :') "Woop, here's my stop."
L1443[23:34:28] <Ender> "gotta go fast"
L1444[23:35:07] <Shuudoushi> "GO, Go, GO. STOOOOOPPPP!!!!"
L1445[23:35:09] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1446[23:36:10] <Sangar> :D
L1447[23:36:11] <Ender> "AAAAAARRRRGGGHHHHHH, STOP *smashes into wall* Woop Woop"
L1448[23:36:48] <Ender> urghh, fridge is trying to be a dialup modem again
L1449[23:36:49] <Ender> ¬_¬
L1450[23:36:50] <Sangar> hmm, i should add a *beepboop* when they collide with something
L1451[23:37:07] <Ender> a high-pitched screech
L1452[23:37:16] <Negi> "I'm confused, what was that ?!"
L1453[23:37:26] <Sangar> or stolen turret sounds from portal? >_>
L1454[23:37:33] <Ender> Sangar, could do
L1455[23:37:44] <Shuudoushi> LMAO
L1456[23:37:54] <Shuudoushi> iirc, those sounds are open for use
L1457[23:38:19] <Shuudoushi> well, people use them in source mods all the time at least lol
L1458[23:38:26] <Ender> Sangar, :O when you pick it up it does the "Hey hey heey, put me down.."
L1459[23:38:27] <Benguin> Aw, you'd break the drone and it'd play the "I don't blame you." sound file
L1460[23:38:28] <Sangar> really? huh. simple beeps would be more 'in character' though i guess. may only on april first or so :P
L1461[23:39:08] <Benguin> Yeah R2D2 beeps would fit better
L1462[23:39:28] * Ender wonders if idea will work
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L1464[23:40:59] <Negi> I think I'm trying to revise OC's fr_FR lang file or something
L1465[23:41:01] <Negi> ?
L1466[23:41:24] <Ender> hmm, idea says it has an update
L1467[23:41:30] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: you could offer the sounds as an optional file
L1468[23:41:31] <Negi> The only thing I know's that noone uses Minecraft in French when they play modded. ._.
L1469[23:41:36] <Ender> i wonder how old 13.1.
L1470[23:41:38] <Ender> i wonder how old 13.1.3 is
L1471[23:42:02] <Sangar> Shuudoushi, will see. maybe for the creative tier drone *if* i add one :P
L1472[23:42:11] <Shuudoushi> :P
L1473[23:42:41] <Ender> oh wow, mine is outdated
L1474[23:43:09] <Sangar> Negi, yeah, i'm pretty sure it's the same for german, too :P
L1475[23:43:17] <Shuudoushi> i still can't figure out why my frontend is flipping it's shit...
L1476[23:44:45] <Negi> Sangar: I think even vanilla players don't play that much in other languages. Tho I guess it'd appeal more people if mods actually took the whole translation thing to something or someone else than Google Translate.
L1477[23:45:13] <Shuudoushi> lmao
L1478[23:45:45] <Benguin> Sangar: also, rednet works fine
L1479[23:45:46] <Ender> aww
L1480[23:46:00] <Ender> ctrl+alt+t doesnt open the cmd window on windows
L1481[23:46:02] * Ender is sad
L1482[23:46:18] <Shuudoushi> nope
L1483[23:46:26] <Sangar> Benguin, glad to hear it :)
L1484[23:46:27] <Shuudoushi> ctrl+alt+win key
L1485[23:46:36] <Shuudoushi> or super, whatever you want to call it
L1486[23:46:49] <Ender> Shuudoushi, that does nothing
L1487[23:46:55] <Shuudoushi> wait, which windohs?
L1488[23:47:04] <Ender> just did win+r > cmd > enter
L1489[23:47:08] <Ender> Shuudoushi, 7
L1490[23:47:19] <Sangar> all right, i think the wiki is *somewhat* up-to-date again
L1491[23:47:22] <Negi> Da Mod4 key.
L1492[23:47:27] <Shuudoushi> oh
L1493[23:47:38] <Shuudoushi> crtl+alt+r lol
L1494[23:48:06] <Ender> Sangar, what is scala's "name" (like java's is... java)
L1495[23:48:14] <Shuudoushi> oh wait... that's something i have setup through my kb...
L1496[23:48:24] <Negi> Someday Sangar, someday the wiki will be 100% up to date.
L1497[23:48:42] <Sangar> Ender what do you mean?
L1498[23:48:59] <Sangar> Negi, hahaha. one can dream :P
L1499[23:49:01] <Ender> it's executable name (cant remember if i installed it on this pc)
L1500[23:49:12] <Sangar> java
L1501[23:49:13] <Sangar> :P
L1502[23:49:17] <Ender> for scala?
L1503[23:49:37] <Sangar> not sure if that works actually, i.e. if it adds its libs to the classpath >_>
L1504[23:49:44] <Ender> huh
L1505[23:49:46] <Ender> meh
L1506[23:49:50] <Sangar> there's scalac, so i'd guess if anything it'd be scala yeah
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L1508[23:50:03] <Sangar> yeah
L1509[23:50:09] <Sangar> just `scala`. for me at least
L1510[23:50:25] <Ender> yeah, not recognised, ok. will need to install that at somepoint
L1511[23:51:32] <Negi> Not only MEGA is slow. But it's storing everything in RAM. That's dumb.
L1512[23:51:40] <Shuudoushi> a bit yes
L1513[23:51:57] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: how goes that dev build upload?
L1514[23:52:18] <Sangar> jenkins got stuck, restarted the build just now :/
L1515[23:52:41] * Shuudoushi sighs.
L1516[23:52:48] <Shuudoushi> can't be helped though...
L1517[23:52:53] <Sangar> well, it's storing it in html5 offline storage. if the browser keeps that in memory, that is dumb, yeah :X
L1518[23:53:12] <Benguin> Does OC's lua not have the arg table?
L1519[23:53:16] <Ditchbuster> Sorry I was back reading... What are the drones? Was this in the trailer you talked about?
L1520[23:53:30] <Ender> Ditchbuster, go watch video
L1521[23:53:32] <Ender> :)
L1522[23:53:43] <Benguin> here you go Ditchbuster https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=W5JTRKdup7s
L1523[23:53:43] -Kibibyte- [Benguin] OpenComputers: Christmas Presents! | by fnuecke | 12m44s | 4h50m ago | 17 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
L1524[23:53:46] <Shuudoushi> DOO EEET
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L1526[23:54:00] <Sangar> Benguin, arg table?
L1527[23:54:09] <Ditchbuster> Nice, I'll check it out. :-)
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L1529[23:54:14] <Shuudoushi> targ{...}
L1530[23:54:19] <Shuudoushi> or w/e
L1531[23:54:20] <Benguin> I googled how to access arguments given to lua when launching a script, and I found the arg table
L1532[23:54:26] <Benguin> where you'd use arg[1] and onwads
L1533[23:54:28] <Benguin> targ?
L1534[23:54:47] <Shuudoushi> fingers got ahead of brain again...
L1535[23:54:47] <Ender> local args = {...}; or something like that
L1536[23:54:48] <Sangar> Benguin, they're given as varargs (which is the same as with cc iirc). so just do local arg = {...} e.g.
L1537[23:54:51] <Sangar> gnah
L1538[23:54:57] * Sangar stabs Ender
L1539[23:54:59] <Negi> I'm at 8:25 of the video, knowing that I started when the link was put up.
L1540[23:55:07] <Benguin> ah okay, thanks
L1541[23:55:10] * Ender stabs Sangar with his Katana
L1542[23:55:16] <Shuudoushi> lmao
L1543[23:55:23] * Sangar throws drones at Ender to distract him
L1544[23:55:27] <Negi> Which is about 50 minutes ago.
L1545[23:55:40] * Ender runs after Sangar, not being fooled by drones
L1546[23:55:52] * DeanIsaKitty slaps both Ender and Sangar and commands them to stop the bitchfight
L1547[23:55:53] * EnderBot2 laughs
L1548[23:56:16] * Ender continues following after Sangar
L1549[23:56:19] * Sangar lets Ender run by and goes back to looking how jenkins is doing
L1550[23:56:29] <Shuudoushi> LMFAO
L1551[23:56:43] <Sangar> oh, it's getting somewhere
L1552[23:57:13] <Shuudoushi> \o/
L1553[23:57:53] <Sangar> done :)
L1554[23:58:12] <Ender> "Finished: SUCCESS"
L1555[23:58:24] <Shuudoushi> Ender: ADD IT TO ZEE SERVER NOW!!!
L1556[23:58:24] <Sangar> i'm making a note here
L1557[23:58:32] <Ender> Shuudoushi, go bug SuPeRMiNoR2
L1558[23:58:49] <Shuudoushi> SuPeRMiNoR2: ADD THE DEV BUILD TO ZEE SERVER NOW!!!
L1559[23:59:08] <NixillUmbreon> Alright, got it to mirror irc -> mc
L1560[23:59:13] <Ender> i wonder how the server would hold with the drones added....
L1561[23:59:35] <Shuudoushi> I'll unleash a massive army of them to find out }:D
L1562[23:59:57] <Ender> Shuudoushi, if you bring down the server with them i'm not restarting it
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