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L9[00:44:48] <v^> ^v is text to speaching
everything
L10[00:55:16] <TabletCube> THIS COMPUTER
SUCKS ASS
L11[00:55:25] <v^> TabletCube,
>_>
L12[00:55:33] <v^> u suck ass
L13[00:55:57] <TabletCube> v^: you asked
for it :p
L14[00:56:12] <TabletCube> also
L15[00:56:42] <TabletCube> >school near
you could into computer science
L16[00:57:05] <TabletCube> >they signed
up for dreamspark
L17[00:57:10] <TabletCube> much rage
L18[00:57:16] <TabletCube> much rage
L19[00:57:24] <TabletCube> v^: ^
L20[00:58:19] <vifino> I have way to much
servers.
L21[00:58:25] <vifino> Like, way too
much.
L22[00:59:40] <TabletCube> ;_;
L23[00:59:53] <TabletCube> they has Q&A
site
L24[01:00:09] *
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L27[01:04:58] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
returned.
L28[01:05:34] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: hai
L29[01:05:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Hai
TabletCube
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L31[01:05:46] <TabletCube> How was PE
L32[01:06:15] <ShadowKatStudios>
Reasonable- I sat down and read Dune
L33[01:07:23] <TabletCube> I just threw the
spiky hammer of doom at a school because they could into computer
science and dreamspark
L34[01:08:08] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: ^
L35[01:09:07] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios!
\o/
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L37[01:10:54] <v^> everything you say
L38[01:11:00] <v^> goes through my
speakers
L39[01:11:06] <v^> text to speech ftw
L40[01:11:19] <vifino> vCarrot, I am
watching you.
L41[01:11:26] <v^> my name is andre
irl
L42[01:11:33] <vifino> ik
L43[01:11:34] <v^> so if you want to fuck
with me pm ^v
L44[01:11:48] <v^> it will go through my
speakers
L45[01:11:48] <TabletCube> Consoles are
better than PCs
L46[01:11:55] <v^> !kickban
TabletCube
L47[01:11:56] <TabletCube>
*trollface*
L48[01:12:22] <TabletCube> PCMR ftw
L49[01:12:34] <v^> masterrace circlejerks
ftw
L50[01:12:46] <TabletCube> yes
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L52[01:14:09] <TabletCube> Ono, SKS
ded
L53[01:14:15] <v^> SKS ded?
L54[01:14:18] <v^> PARTYYYYYYYYYYY
L55[01:14:37] <TabletCube> !kickban
v^
L56[01:14:52] <vifino> rip sks, i will
never forget you :'(
L57[01:14:52] <gamax92> Some consoles are
just a PC
L58[01:15:03] <v^> the xbox was a PC
L59[01:15:11] <v^> xbox 1
L60[01:15:11] <TabletCube> We are even
now
L61[01:15:15] <v^> not the xbox one
L62[01:15:19] <v^> the first one
L63[01:15:23] <v^> which was better
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L65[01:15:38] <gamax92> the xbox one is
called the xbone
L66[01:15:49] <v^> xbone sounds nice on
espeak
L67[01:16:38] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: why you die?
L68[01:17:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Because I
had to go for geography and hibernated without disconnecting
L69[01:17:33] *
vifino hugs ShadowKatStudios
L70[01:18:12] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino:
Not at school pls
L71[01:18:20] <vifino> :s
L72[01:18:56] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: did you get message about big spiky hammer of
doom?
L73[01:19:14] <ShadowKatStudios> I dun't
get it
L74[01:19:22] <TabletCube> :(
L75[01:19:30] <ShadowKatStudios> explain
pls
L76[01:19:38] <ShadowKatStudios> also
repeat pls, I refreshed the page
L77[01:20:47] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: i threw a fake spiky hammer of doom at a school
on IRC.
L78[01:21:05] <TabletCube> They had better
IT than us ._.
L79[01:21:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, I
sees.
L80[01:21:52] <Inari> spiky hammer of
doom?
L81[01:22:10] *
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L82[01:22:19] *
TabletCube throws it at Inari
L83[01:23:23] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: they could into computer science and
dreamspark
L84[01:24:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I spent my
ICT lesson reading a textbook
L85[01:26:43] <TabletCube> All we had in
our school was gamedev with FM
L86[01:26:48] <TabletCube> *GM8.1
L87[01:27:41] <TabletCube> The scripting
language had a quirk
L88[01:28:40] <gamax92> eww gml
L89[01:28:58] <gamax92> TabletCube: good
thing its 8.1
L90[01:28:59] <ShadowKatStudios> GM 8.0 was
better.
L91[01:29:07] <ShadowKatStudios> No
ads.
L92[01:29:07] <gamax92> you can decompile
everything now
L93[01:29:32] <TabletCube> gamax92: it was
limited
L94[01:29:40] <gamax92> TabletCube:
and?
L95[01:29:58] <TabletCube> you couldn't
return an array from a script
L96[01:30:05] <gamax92> there are so many
gm decompilers
L97[01:30:17] <TabletCube> and?
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L100[01:32:28] <TabletCube>
Fookingclient
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L103[01:44:50] <ShadowKatStudios> It's an
*awesome* day when I can submit a webpage as an assignment
L104[01:47:44] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
wikipedia shouldn't be a valid thing ._.
L105[01:48:16] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: meh
L106[01:48:57] *
TabletCube can and has submitted .zips as an
assignment
L107[01:49:09] <TabletCube> Libreoffice
docs too
L108[01:50:59] <ShadowKatStudios>
ttg
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L111[01:54:46] <Agoldfish> Lol.
L112[01:55:04] <Agoldfish> Waddup
vifino.
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L114[01:55:35] <vifino> Blubby!
L115[01:55:42] <Agoldfish> Kitteh!
L116[01:55:51] <vifino> ^_^
L117[01:56:02] <Agoldfish>
#mobileswag
L118[01:56:43] <Agoldfish>
I've come to harvest your
pickle.
L119[01:58:15] <vifino> o_o
L120[01:59:50] *
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L121[02:00:03] <Agoldfish> Oh noes.
L122[02:00:23] *
TabletCube harvests Agoldfish's pickle
L123[02:00:56] <TabletCube> sleep
nao
L124[02:00:56] <Agoldfish> MY
PICKLES!
L125[02:22:19] *
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L126[02:22:25] <Brycey92> someone say
pickles?
L127[02:23:56] *
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L128[02:24:54] *
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L131[02:36:06] <Brycey92> massacres*
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L133[02:36:54] <Brycey92> Caitlyn,
wormhole x-treme is best tv show
L134[02:37:25] <v^> xtreme
L135[02:37:41] <v^> !topic vifino
sucks
L136[02:38:23] <vifino> no u
L137[02:39:04] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
What if i told you, my dedicated server will run arch? ^_^
L138[02:39:28] <vifino> ( ofc linux-lts
)
L139[02:44:32] <v^> nklml;
L140[02:44:33] <v^> erml;
L141[02:44:34] <v^> eryet
L142[02:46:52] <Brycey92> weugifr
L143[02:47:07] <v^> Brycey92, ^v is
running text to speech
L144[02:47:12] <Brycey92> lol
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L146[02:58:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
Ugh.
L147[03:01:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Sitting
between two idiots who don't know how to put a path in
quotes.
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L185[05:46:29] <ShadowKatStudios> o/
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L187[05:58:31] <Brycey92> \o
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ShadowKatStudios: o/
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L227[08:29:37] <skyem123> I need to go
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L244[10:38:51] <ShadowKatStudios> If you
used base-64, you could shorten an IPv6 address to 2 chars! It's
genius!
L245[10:41:13] <dangranos> uh
L246[10:44:48] <dangranos> how?
L247[10:47:35] <ShadowKatStudios>
Wait.
L248[10:47:37] <ShadowKatStudios>
No.
L249[10:47:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Never
mind.
L250[10:48:59] <Ender> morning
L251[10:50:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Morning
Ender.
L252[10:50:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyone
want to guess what I managed to abuse into working?
L253[10:51:10] <Ender> Your wife
L254[10:51:12] <Ender> wait what
L255[10:52:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Ender,
stop watching shit sitcoms, I would never do something like
that.
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L257[10:52:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Rather,
I have VRDP from a headless virtualbox
L258[10:52:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Runs
much better than vbox over X11 via ssh
L259[10:52:49] <Ender> cool
L260[10:56:08] <Ender> also there, got
some other site stuff set up on an internet hosted git platform so
i can work on it when i'm not home
L261[10:56:56] <ShadowKatStudios> I just
realised I forgot to install ABP for Firefox into this XP VM
L262[10:58:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
shiny.
L264[11:06:23] <ShadowKatStudios> RC2 was
a great game.
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L270[12:04:34] <vifino> ovh, pls
L271[12:04:41] <vifino> i want my
dedicated server.
L272[12:04:45] <vifino> Right. Now.
L273[12:05:05] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino:
Guess what OS I'm installing into a VM?
L274[12:05:17] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
Arch?
L275[12:05:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
that on like 6 real computers
L276[12:05:37] <vifino> :p
L277[12:05:52] <vifino> If you say windows
then :v
L278[12:06:03] <ShadowKatStudios> I am
installing Windows 98 SE, in order to play FF VII
L279[12:06:10] <vifino> x_x
L280[12:06:38] <ShadowKatStudios> There's
a bug that makes it crash half way through the game
L281[12:07:37] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
What if I told you my dedicated server will run Arch? :3
L282[12:07:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I would
be very happy.
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L284[12:07:57] <ShadowKatStudios> What if
I told you I have a computer I now use for VMs?
L285[12:08:44] <ShadowKatStudios> (Sure,
technically, it's my mum's Linux box, but she wasn't using all 4GB
of RAM)
L286[12:09:00] <vifino> xD
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L288[12:09:30] <ShadowKatStudios> That and
Minecraft tends to only use one core so that's fine, it can use the
real GPU too...
L289[12:10:39] <vifino> Okay, ovh made me
pay 216.98 € and they are too slow to do it in one day.
L290[12:10:56] *
vifino grabs a titanium knife and stabs ovh with it
L291[12:13:14] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
ovh makes me angry D:
L292[12:13:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Go and
muder one of their employees, it'll make you feel better
L293[12:14:31] <vifino> Also, the dedi is
softraid only :<
L294[12:15:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I have a
server somewhere with hwraid support
L295[12:15:39] <vifino> :|
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L298[12:16:46] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
note that the mobo is dead and it only copes with SCSI Ultra160
drives.
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L301[12:25:38] <MindWorX> I need more
creative things!
L302[12:25:42] <MindWorX> Creative
Displays!
L303[12:27:16] <vifino> Creative
Creativity!
L304[12:28:05] <MindWorX> I'm struggling
with Hardcore Questing Mode, but I just thought I wouldn't actually
need it if I could display information with OC :P
L305[12:28:32] <MindWorX> I'd need some
more things, but there's a lot of potential in OC for a great
challenge/adventure like map.
L306[12:28:52] *
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L308[12:30:49] <MindWorX> OVHs and VPSs?
:P
L310[12:31:56] <MindWorX> No idea what
those things are. :P
L311[12:32:11] <Ender> go google them
~_~
L312[12:40:39] <Sangar> p/
L313[12:40:48] <Sangar> well that's a good
start of the day
L314[12:40:54] <Sangar> o/
L315[12:41:13] <Ender> lol
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L329[13:35:06] <robhol> the same as every
day - try to take over the world
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L331[13:37:51] <Ender> robhol: Pinky and
the Brain?
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L339[14:19:50] <seebs> In Lua?
L340[14:21:12] <seebs> local to_remove =
{}; for i = 1, #list do if list[i] == "" then
to_remove[#to_remove + 1] = i end end; while #to_remove > 0 do
table.remove(list, table.remove(to_remove)) end
L341[14:21:30] <seebs> if you think
there'll be a bunch of empty strings, it may be faster to build a
new table containing only non-empties
L342[14:22:02] <AlissaKitty> Uhm...
L343[14:22:17] <AlissaKitty> for k, v in
pairs( t ) do if v == "" then t[k] = nil end
L344[14:22:22] <AlissaKitty> for k, v in
pairs( t ) do if v == "" then t[k] = nil end end
L345[14:22:47] <seebs> yeah, but that
leaves holes.
L346[14:23:03] <seebs> i was assuming
"list" implies "sequentially-numbered".
L347[14:23:36] <seebs> Actually, come to
think of it
L348[14:23:50] <seebs> for i = #list, 1,
-1 do if list[i] == "" then table.remove(list, i) end
end
L349[14:24:00] <seebs> I always forget you
can count down
L351[14:24:35] <seebs> and if it gets hit
a lot, of course, localize table.remove
L352[14:25:13] <Ender> i was refering to
python but i got it now
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L355[14:26:22] <seebs> i don't get along
very well with python
L356[14:26:29] <seebs> but I suspect [x in
list if x != ""]
L357[14:27:06] <seebs> oh, wait, [x for x
in list if x != ""]
L358[14:27:20] <Ender> i did see it done
that way but ive gone with a different method
L359[14:27:33] <seebs> the list
comprehension is probably the most idiomatic and may well be the
fastest.
L360[14:27:36] <seebs> I think.
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L362[14:27:57] <Ender> also what you just
posted confuses me so i didnt use it
L363[14:27:58] <seebs> It's entirely
possible that this was true two months ago, and now there is a new
idiom and if you use the old one all the Python programmers will
mock you for not being Pythonic.
L364[14:28:29] <seebs> List comprehensions
are pretty useful. [x for x in list if (condition)] makes a new
list consisting of the members of "list" for which the
condition was true.
L365[14:28:36] <Ender> at the moment i
just do while "" in list: list.remove("")
L366[14:28:46] <Ender> seems to work well
enough
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L368[14:29:22] <seebs> Yeah, should be
fine for smallish N.
L369[14:29:27] <seebs> If the list is
large enough it might be expensive.
L371[14:30:39] <Ender> all i'm doing is
just splitting a url at / and putting it into a list (so i can have
url parsing for v3 of my bot which i'll need for a few
modules)
L372[14:31:22] <seebs> x0m9k: Standard lua
has some amount of built-in profiling.
L373[14:31:31] <seebs> Not sure what you
mean by "a builtin lua object".
L374[14:31:41] <seebs> Also, you can
improve your output performance a fair bit if you use
string.format.
L375[14:34:04] <dangranos> x0m9k, is that
awesome?
L376[14:34:22] <x0m9k> seebs: Well, I can
do something like that: x = {}; x["a"] = 10; x[0] = 20;,
right? That is built-in objects in lua. I implemented object-like
structure using only functions. Now I just want to compare memory
usage of both variants.
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L379[14:35:44] <x0m9k> dangranos: That is
xmonad
L380[14:36:32] <x0m9k> with
conky+dzen2
L381[14:36:55] <seebs> Memory usage may or
may not be easily exposed. I would guess that the function-based
one would be quite a lot slower, not to mention its
likely-pathological performance when there's more than a handful of
keys.
L382[14:37:28] <seebs> Anyway, look into
the debug library, but note that if you're using opencomputers,
there's a lot of differences in what's available.
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L394[15:15:15] <vifino> gamax92: ;~;
L395[15:15:40] <gamax92> vifino: I don't
care about your unsupported speculations
L396[15:15:46] <vifino> gamax92: MS wants
to make money, that is a fact.
L397[15:15:59] <gamax92> /ignore vifino
all
L398[15:16:03] <gamax92> /ignore Kubuxu
all
L399[15:16:06] <gamax92> /ignore Csstform
all
L400[15:16:40] <vifino> okay, gamax92
can't take opinions, facts or other things that he doesn't agree
to.
L401[15:16:41] <Kubuxu> That's mean.
L402[15:17:05] <gamax92> No fucking shit
they want money, they are a business.
L403[15:19:04] <Kubuxu> They won't get it
without something new. Imagine subscription Minecraft. Or Minecraft
without local server so you have to buy realms.
L404[15:19:25] <Kubuxu> Ok I will stop
now.
L405[15:20:00] <Csstform> gamax92: i was
never on the ani-micrsoft bandwagon ;-;
L406[15:21:25] <Kubuxu> Me too. Minecraft
needs change.
L407[15:25:56] <Ender> i should start
making a tally
L408[15:27:13] <Csstform> !microsoft
L409[15:27:23] <dangranos> .fail
L410[15:27:23] <^v> dangranos, [75]
<ShadowKatStudios> .fa
L411[15:27:30] <Csstform> !microsoft
yes
L412[15:27:38] <Csstform> !microsoft
no
L413[15:27:44] <Caitlyn>
!MikeRoweSoft
L414[15:27:45] <Csstform> Ender:
tallu
L416[15:28:04] <gamax92> .newvote
microsoft-yes,microsoft-no
L417[15:28:04] <^v> gamax92, Vote started!
end with .endvote
L418[15:28:06] <gamax92> k
L419[15:28:10] <Ender> .endvote
L420[15:28:10] <^v> Ender, Vote results:
microsoft-no: 0 microsoft-yes: 0
L421[15:28:11] <Ender> np
L422[15:28:12] <gamax92> aww
L423[15:28:14] <Ender> no*
L424[15:28:21] <Ender> stop this pointless
discussion
L425[15:28:41] <gamax92> Csstform: i
tried
L426[15:29:48] <Ender> also the tally was
for the ammount of times that gamax92 and vifino disagreed with
eachother
L427[15:30:09] <vifino> Ender: What is a
'tally'?
L428[15:30:14] <gamax92> a count
L430[15:31:29] <Kubuxu> .w tally
L431[15:31:30] <^v> Kubuxu, Not found. did
you want "table api"?
L432[15:31:56] <gamax92> ~w tally
L434[15:31:57] <Kubuxu> Yeah. That's
it.
L435[15:31:59] <gamax92> lololol
L436[15:32:01] <gamax92> k
L437[15:32:10] <gamax92> because of the
"all"
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L439[15:41:50] <Inari> meh i still wish
someone woudl make acapable MC clone with good modding :p
L440[15:43:56] <gamax92> Inari: i wish
minetest had better gui stuff
L441[15:44:01] <gamax92> modding
wise
L442[15:44:55] <gamax92> Guest35707: ohai
kilobyte
L443[15:45:32] <Inari> minetest is
terrible
L444[15:45:49] <gamax92> Inari: you mean
the default engine right?
L445[15:45:58] <Inari> dunno, just the
thing :P
L446[15:46:13] <Inari> gui is sluggish,
everythings pretty unpolished
L447[15:46:20] <gamax92> oh well
yeah
L448[15:46:33] <skyem123> I don't like
jumping in minetest
L449[15:47:17] <gamax92> I don't know how
the alternative games (which are mainly just forks of the original
game) are fairing
L450[15:47:21] <Inari> also as far as i
heard its modding support isnt that great either
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L459[16:15:54] <Wobbo> o/
L461[16:17:43] <gamax92> /\o/\
L462[16:18:08] <Negi> vov ^o^ vov
L463[16:18:19] <Negi> Now you can make
that an animation. AND WAVES
L464[16:18:19] <AlissaKitty> \(^-^)/
L465[16:18:51] <Wobbo> vov vo^ ^o^ ^ov
vov
L466[16:18:59] <Negi> I still wonder why
QWERTY english keyboards feature the ^ key.
L467[16:19:16] <gamax92> So we can do
\(^-^)/
L468[16:19:24] <Wobbo> It is used for
power in some languages
L469[16:19:26] <Negi> Is it a dead key, at
least ?
L470[16:19:35] <gamax92> plus its still
used ...
L471[16:19:38] <Csstform> Not for
irc
L472[16:19:39] <gamax92> why would it not
be included
L473[16:19:42] <Wobbo> A lot of tokens on
keyboards exists because of programming :P
L474[16:19:45] <Csstform> ^
L475[16:19:48] <AlissaKitty> ^
L476[16:19:55] <Wobbo> like the # !
L477[16:19:58] <Csstform> And that ^
L478[16:20:21] <Negi> "dead key"
is actually a behavior of certain keys when you press these.
L479[16:20:46] <Negi> Wobbo, # is also
used for dialing and text formatting :c
L480[16:21:13] <Wobbo> Negi: It was used
for nothing when they included it on phones for the first
time
L481[16:22:14] <Negi> Wobbo, protestation
:I It was.
L482[16:22:52] <Negi> I think it was for
something like indicating special dialing stuff.
L484[16:23:53] -Kibibyte- [Wobbo] #Octothorpe -
A Symbolistic Journey | by vlogbrothers | 3m42s | 5w4d ago |
276,876 views | Rated:
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L485[16:24:36] <Wobbo> Negi: Before it was
included on a phone you couldn't use it for special dialing cause
it wasn't on your phone
L486[16:25:07] <Negi> It wasn't included
on phones for fancy.
L487[16:25:09] <Negi> (Shorten your
links.)
L488[16:25:52] <Wobbo> Negi: It was
included on phones for controlling computers and stuff, but the
symbol itself was chosen becasue it had no meaning
L489[16:26:04] <Wobbo> Negi: But copy
paste! D:
L490[16:26:33] <Wobbo> Negi: And because
it was in ASCII, which the diamond which they wanted to use, was
not
L491[16:26:53] <Negi> How is ASCII related
to tone-dialing phones.
L492[16:27:01] <Negi> : I
L493[16:27:06] <Wobbo> Negi: video
:P
L494[16:27:23] <dangranos> i think my
flash is borked
L495[16:27:26] <Negi> I don't understand
humanity.
L496[16:27:26] <dangranos> wai...
L497[16:27:36] <dangranos> i forgot to
restart firefox after update
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L500[16:28:04] <Negi> It's a bit too late
now Wobbo.
L501[16:28:13] <Wobbo> It is never to
late!
L502[16:28:23] <Negi> Also if it's on
mobile phones it's for specific reasons. Like hidden calling ID
when dialing.
L503[16:28:54] <Wobbo> Negi: I was talking
about when it was first included, not why it is on the newest
iPhone >_>
L504[16:29:24] <Negi> Also don't talk
Apple to me. And I was just saying it's not because it became a
cultural thing.
L505[16:30:40] <Wobbo> No, it was included
for legacy reasons, because it was on the first phones because they
wanted a meaningless symbol on there for controlling computers and
stuff.
L506[16:31:59] <dangranos> #worthit
:D
L507[16:32:13] <Negi> In the end, the #
ended up being used to control computers.
L508[16:32:43] <Negi> That's a lot of
ends.
L509[16:33:29] <Negi> And also in my
school you use a # before the number when dialing outside.
L510[16:34:05] <Caitlyn> Cause you're
telling the PBX (a computer :P) You want an outside line lol
L511[16:34:12] <vifino> # # # # # #
#
L512[16:34:16] <vifino> ^_^
L513[16:34:20] <Wobbo> Negi: At my
parents, we just used a 0 in front of the number you wanted to
call, so # is not universal for that purpose
L514[16:34:20] <Negi> I know, Caitlyn,
thanks.
L515[16:34:39] <Negi> But the PBX at my
old school did use a 0.
L516[16:35:10] <Caitlyn> 9 is commonly
used around here
L517[16:36:12] <Negi> So it was #0<9
numbers according to how it works around here> or 00<9
numbers>.
L518[16:36:21] <Wobbo> I think we used 0
because the first number of a phone number is generally 0 around
here, but the second is always something else. So two 0's would be
a call to the outside
L519[16:37:13] <Negi> Actually they used
the 0 beforehand, but since our teachers got messy and often tried
to dial while putting only one 0, it ended up being too
confusing.
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L521[16:37:52] <Ender> dialing
"00" sets you for dialing out of the country
(generally)
L522[16:38:28] <Ender> so for dialing the
UK you'd dial 00 44<rest of number with leading 0
removed>
L523[16:38:48] <Ender> at least that's how
i remember my mother calling home when we were in america this
year
L524[16:38:52] <Wobbo> Ender: I think that
if I want to dial out of the country I would have to start with a
plus followed by the land number, so +31 for NL
L525[16:39:03] <Negi> + is equivalent to
00
L526[16:39:14] <Wobbo> Ah, that explains
it
L527[16:39:17] <Ender> Wobbo: phones have
no "+" key generally so it's usually 00
L528[16:39:43] <Negi> If you're behind a
PBX that handles direct outbound communication you end up with
000<region id><9 numbers>
L529[16:39:53] <Negi> And this makes a lot
of 0s.
L530[16:40:10] <Caitlyn>
000-0-000-0000
L531[16:40:29] <Wobbo> Its actually a
pretty nice and elegant system, for each layer you want to go up,
add a zero
L532[16:40:40] <Ender> the IPPhones in my
college detect if you're dialing an external or internal line from
the amount of numbers you put in
L533[16:40:58] <Ender> internal is four
numbers, outside is standard numbers
L534[16:40:58] <Wobbo> That are smart
phones
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L537[16:41:24] <Negi> Ender : You haz
technology. My school still uses corded screenless phones.
L538[16:42:26] <Ender> Negi: the college
has 3 main sites and direct lines out for each of them, internal
numbers also stretch across all the campuses
L539[16:42:42] <Ender> brb, gotta go
replace a black toner in a priner
L540[16:42:54] <Wobbo> I wouldn't even
know how to call using the landlines at the university XD
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L543[16:43:44] <Negi> All I know is that
you can dial directly a classroom with a 0 and the classroom
ID.
L544[16:44:10] <Negi> Tho it would have
been a bit more logic the other way around. (# for classrooms and 0
for outbound).
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L547[16:45:43] <Wobbo> I didn't want to
cook half an hour ago and now I'm hungry but somebody is using the
kitchen so I can't cook :(
L548[16:46:10] <Negi> Karma.
L549[16:46:51] <Wobbo> Why karma?
L550[16:47:23] <Negi> Because you didn't
do something earlier, probably because of a bad reason, so karma
equilibrates stuff :I
L551[16:47:53] <Wobbo> I don't think that
is what karma means.
L552[16:48:14] <Wobbo> And I didn't do it
earlier because I didn't feel the need cause I wasn't hungry
L553[16:48:17] <Negi> Don't you break the
dreams of a young 15 years old boy, Wobbo.
L554[16:48:41] *
Wobbo goes cooking when he is hungry, so slightly to
late
L555[16:49:11] <Wobbo> Negi: I break
dreams when I want to, and I won't have a 15 jear old boy tell me
otherwise! :P
L556[16:49:21] *
Negi eats Wobbo raw.
L557[16:50:12] *
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L558[16:50:27] *
Negi uneats Wobbo.
L559[16:50:51] <Negi> "the snack that
smiles back", "children". Tumblr. Why.
L560[16:52:28] <dangranos> lol,
roskomnadzor blocked github due to some "suicide.txt"
file
L561[16:52:47] <Negi> roskomnadzor ?
L562[16:52:50] <Negi> Whazat ?
L564[16:54:36] <Negi> dangranos, do you
have access to social networks and Tumblr ?
L565[16:54:40] <progwml6|L> blocking a
site that large companies use for business isn't the brightest
move
L566[16:54:52] <dangranos> Negi, yes, for
now
L567[16:54:57] <Wobbo> dangranos:
Essentially, an organization that censors media in russia?
L568[16:55:07] <dangranos> ^ yep
L569[16:55:13] <dangranos> maybe
L570[16:55:16] <dangranos> not sure
L571[16:55:23] <progwml6|L> censoring the
internet :(
L572[16:55:40] <dangranos> they already
doing it
L573[16:56:29] <Negi> Internet is supposed
to be a free medium, just saying.
L574[16:56:32] <Wobbo> progwml6|L: if they
really censor media, they also censor TV, radio and news
L575[16:56:45] <progwml6|L> they don't
need to censor that crap
L576[16:56:47] <progwml6|L> they own
it
L577[16:56:57] <Wobbo> Negi: Books are
also meant to be a free medium, but I'm not allowed to sell Mein
Kampf.
L578[16:58:01] <dangranos> Wobbo, you can,
but consequences
L579[16:58:06] <dangranos> *with
L580[16:58:26] <Wobbo> dangranos: If you
want to be really pragmatic, yes.
L581[16:58:43] <Negi> progwml6|L, as far
as I know, the country doesn't own the TV channels. Only the right
to transmit over determined frequencies.
L582[16:59:12] <progwml6|L> iirc a bunch
of the russian TV channels are state ran
L583[16:59:35] <Negi> Which I don't
understand because like electromagnetism is natural, stuff won't
stop emitting microwaves just because humans need the frequencies
for that purpose...
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L585[17:00:56] <Wobbo> dangranos:
Actually, the Court in Amsterdam said that you are not allowed to
sell mein kampf, but that you won't be fined.
L586[17:01:07] <Negi> Tumblr is a bunch of
psychopaths packed up behind a nice community image.
L587[17:01:45] <Negi> There's a country
where you can grow and smoke weed freely but are not allowed to buy
it >_>
L588[17:02:03] *
Wobbo raises hand.
L589[17:02:24] <Negi> NL, Wobbo ?
L590[17:02:34] <Wobbo> I'm actually alowed
to buy it, even to sell it, but not to buty it to sell it to
others
L591[17:02:37] <Wobbo> Negi: Yep
L592[17:02:55] <Negi> Well then it's
another country I'm talking about \o
L593[17:04:06] <Wobbo> Anyway, kitchen is
available, so I will be cooking and eating. bbl
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L623[18:42:59] <Kubuxu> Sangar: are you
here? I'd like to try cleanly pass you what I have tried .
L624[18:44:39] <Sangar> Kubuxu, am
now
L625[18:45:05] <Kubuxu> So do you plan
allowing tables as a uniform??
L626[18:45:30] <Wobbo|AFK> /nick
Wobbo
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L628[18:45:36] <Wobbo> Back
L629[18:46:18] <Ender> Wobbo, 11/10
L630[18:46:30] <Wobbo> Thank you, Thank
you!
L631[18:46:32] *
Wobbo bows
L632[18:46:47] <Kubuxu> Because if not
there won't be normal way to render fe. Bullet. >.Sangar.
L633[18:47:00] <Sangar> Kubuxu, possibly.
the main reason i omitted them in the first place was because the
serialization get's a lot more complicated (cycles, references).
but i guess.
L634[18:47:12] <Sangar> well. you can
define the start and end and interpolate in the shader, no?
;)
L635[18:48:25] <Sangar> for multiple
dynamic things that'll be quite limited though, i agree on that.
i'm just no 100% sure yet if that's such a bad thing :P (only
~80%)
L636[18:49:33] <Wobbo> Sangar: I see that
you have come to your senses and want to use Lua for shaders now?
:P
L637[18:50:13] <Sangar> i'm still open for
crazy, but i think it's the least-effort route, yes ;)
L638[18:50:22] <Kubuxu> I mean multiple
bullets. My idea was to allow some data of sharers to be a table of
sets of variable. So you could create table of bullets' variables
and shader would run on each of bullet's representation.
L639[18:51:08] <Kubuxu> So it would be
like real shader. You have uniforms and data that is different in
each run.
L640[18:51:34] <Wobbo> Just keep it at
Lua, don't want to much overhead from a parser :P
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L642[18:53:03] <Sangar> Kubuxu, just so
we're clear, you basically want the equivalent to a vbo and have
the shaders act like all-in-one shaders? (geometry + fragment +
...)
L643[18:53:16] <Pwootage> Phew
L644[18:53:24] <Pwootage> Finally got most
of my school projects done
L645[18:53:30] <Pwootage> just one
more...
L646[18:53:40] <Kubuxu> Yeah. Seems
reasonable simplification for OC.
L647[18:53:41] <Sangar>
congratulations!
L648[18:53:58] <Kubuxu> I have SAT on
Saturday. :(
L649[18:54:57] <Sangar> Kubuxu, right. so.
how about uniforms primitives and an additional setter that
contains "geometry" information? (well, tables) the
difference would be that the geometry could contain more data but
would be slower to update
L650[18:55:24] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: That
sucks
L651[18:55:38] <Sangar> and i should
finish thinking before i write. setter and getter for geom info.
setter doesn't contain anything ofc >_>
L652[18:56:23] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: I know it.
Especially that I am doing IB in parallel.
L653[18:57:06] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: I have know
idea what IB is, but doing two tests at the same time is almost
impossible. Good luck!
L654[18:57:14] <Kubuxu> Sangar: It losses
the shader's feel but seems slick.
L656[18:57:49] <Sangar> well, for proper
shader feel it'd have to call the shader for each pixel anyway, so
:>
L657[18:58:57] <Kubuxu> Sangar: I mean
even though of parallelism. OGL has tree levels of shaders.
L658[18:58:57] <Sangar> gamax92, oohh,
canvas fun? looks cool.
L659[18:59:34] <Pwootage> So what's going
on here? OCGL?
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L662[18:59:52] <Sangar> something like
that :P
L663[19:00:54] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: It is
International Baccalaureate in most countries only way to pass High
School in English.
L664[19:01:11] <gamax92> :o ocgl?
L665[19:01:16] <Kubuxu> Public
school^^
L666[19:01:44] <v^>
jasfklne;jkne;vgj
L667[19:01:46] <gamax92> Wait but I just
want primitives like triangles and circles and polygon lists and
squares and gouraud triangles
L668[19:02:10] <v^> english class is the
most retarded fucking subject ever
L669[19:02:11] <Pwootage> gosh dangit now
I want to write a 3d render library -.-
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L671[19:02:18] <Pwootage> (in
software)
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L673[19:02:30] <v^> i geruntee you it has
put this world back 100 years in technology
L674[19:02:59] <Pwootage> It's only dumb
because it's taught wrong and way too much
L676[19:03:25] <gamax92> Sangar: will it
be like oclights2?
L677[19:03:26] <Kubuxu> v^: I agree but it
was only way for me to get high school education completely in
English.
L678[19:03:27] <Pwootage> well ofc it
won't be OGL, I wasn't expecting it to be :P
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L680[19:04:02] <Wobbo> v^: And
appereantly, you still need it :P
L681[19:04:32] <v^> Wobbo, their
rationalization is that english is important
L682[19:04:39] <v^> you know whats also
important
L683[19:04:53] <gamax92> Sangar: oh wow
that is nice.
L684[19:04:57] <v^> things that are
actually important, things that they dont teach
L685[19:05:00] <Pwootage> Learning to read
and write is important. Spending 15+ classes doing so is much less
useful.
L686[19:05:03] <CompanionCube> v^:
like?
L687[19:05:04] <Ender> we had to learn
shakespear, what a load of BS that was
L688[19:05:05] <v^> like (real)
engineering
L689[19:05:07] <Pwootage> Sangar: I'd like
to help with this, I think
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L691[19:05:41] <v^> i asked "why do
we need to learn about shakespear"
L692[19:05:49] <v^> they said
"history is important"
L693[19:06:03] <Pwootage> Maybe I will
write a simple 2d renderer as part of the GPU's api
L694[19:06:04] <v^> well fuck you too,
programming is important, therefore i need to learn PHP
L695[19:06:06] <gamax92> Sangar: I just
find it sad that my picture rendering program will see no benefit
from this and would actually be worse
L696[19:06:15] <gamax92> unless its like
instant rendering on the client then :D
L697[19:06:35] <Pwootage> How slow is it
to execute luajit from java?
L698[19:06:55] <v^> its only slow if you
jump back and forth
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L700[19:07:04] <Kubuxu> v^: PHP might not
make you rich but you will see a lot of dollars.
L701[19:07:38] <Vexatos> Sangar, why not
support SoniEx2's idea .-.
L702[19:07:39] <Pwootage> If shaders
execute quickly but are slow to invoke, then size limitations are
less useful
L703[19:07:56] <Sangar> gamax92, the only
speed limitation on the client will be in a) how often the shader
is invoked b) the allowed instruction count per shader call, so it
should be *a lot* faster to blit it. uploading it however will be
bounded by the speed the "geometry" info can be sent.
which will be somewhere aligned to `set` i think. maybe a little
faster because more complicated to work with.
L704[19:08:26] <v^> Kubuxu, web
development sucks i hear
L705[19:08:35] <Wobbo> v^: First of all,
php is a horrible lanugage that should burn in a fire, or so I'm
told.
L706[19:08:43] <Pwootage> Friends don't
let friends write PHP
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L708[19:09:01] <Sangar> Pwootage, gladly!
libs would be the easiest to contribute. on the
"internals" i'll have to see if it makes sense to
integrate it with how things are now, or if it'd make more sense to
rework some things (i.e. with the current code the shaders would
actually have to live in the screens...)
L709[19:09:26] <Kubuxu> v^: the worst part
is how stupid the user is.
L710[19:09:32] <Wobbo> v^: Secondly,
History is important. It reminds us what we have achieved thusfar
and reminds us of what we should not do.
L711[19:09:40] <Pwootage> Sangar:
interesting... I really should learn more about the internal
organization of OC ;)
L712[19:09:44] <Sangar> Vexatos, i decided
just not to respond anymore... i get so annoyed by everything he
writes >_>
L713[19:09:50] <v^> Wobbo, you
realize
L714[19:09:56] <v^> thats what an
engineering notebook is for
L715[19:09:59] <Vexatos> Sangar, I know,
right
L716[19:10:05] <v^> and NOWHERE in school
were we tought how to make one
L717[19:10:32] <CompanionCube> SoniEx2 an
idiot
L718[19:10:36] <Pwootage> Sangar: the
other question is whether I should write a 2d render lib in lua or
in scala... I am not actually sure which would be faster
L719[19:10:40] <Wobbo> v^: I'm not saying
that everything that they teach you in school is usefull. (Art D:)
but that history is.
L720[19:10:56] <Kubuxu> Sangar: I have
only one wish. I had never been in the need to optimize Lua code.
Please, by shaders, make me fight for each millisecond.
L721[19:11:04] <Sangar> Pwootage, as for
luajit from java... depends on how often you call it and cross
"borders". in this case luaj would probably be faster,
even.
L722[19:11:14] <v^> it depends on the
history, in grade school its all about the 'murican
revolution
L723[19:11:23] <v^> most history is
completely biased
L724[19:11:35] <Kubuxu> v^: Why PHP?
L725[19:11:51] <Sangar> Kubuxu, well, by
the current plans you'd have for instructions (because it's just
abort after the limit was hit). is that acceptable as need for
optimiation? :P
L726[19:11:55] <gamax92> Sangar: so trying
to understand this, there could be a rendering program on the
client, and the server could be like "Render this blob of
data"
L727[19:12:06] <Sangar> gamax92,
essentially, yes
L728[19:12:12] <v^> Kubuxu, i said PHP
because its the carp of programming, like how shakespear is the
carp of history, because he doesnt teach anything useful
L729[19:12:15] <Wobbo> v^: Yeah, we mostly
get World History.
L730[19:12:56] <Ender> i think in history
we did the Romans, saxons, WW1or2 and i cant recall much else
L731[19:12:59] <Pwootage> Sangar: if luaj
is faster, then would it be reasonable to say that shaders must not
persist state between runs?
L732[19:13:27] <Sangar> Pwootage, yes.
that's the plan (see my last post, it's the most up-to-date, minus
the data blob discussed here just earlier)
L733[19:13:27] <Wobbo> Ender: You probably
had the French revolution and colonization in there
somewhere.
L734[19:13:37] <v^> Wobbo, world history:
the people who dont fight are the winners, but we dont tell you
that
L735[19:13:40] <gamax92> Sangar: I imagine
a string of gpu bytecode (like [0x00, 0xXX, 0xYY, Some character]
to write a letter) would be smaller than all the packets from
component invokes?
L736[19:13:51] <Ender> Wobbo, the last
time i did history was back in 2009
L737[19:14:20] <Pwootage> It would be fun
to write a GPU bytecode compiler but idk if it would be
faster
L738[19:14:22] <Ender> and even then i was
in a shit class with all the kids with like ADHD
L739[19:14:26] <Ender> which didnt
help
L740[19:14:33] <Wobbo> Ender: For me it
was 5 years ago, then I dropped it because it didn't fit into my
schedule.
L741[19:14:35] <Pwootage> it probably
wouldn't
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L744[19:15:10] <gamax92> Well im just
trying to figure out how this would be faster at all.
L745[19:15:11] <Sangar> gamax92, the
concept atm is to send a shader program (e.g. lua script) to the
client once/rarely, send some data blob once/rarely, update
uniforms every now and then. otherwise no server<->client
comms. for shaders that is.
L746[19:15:56] <Pwootage> Client rendering
doesn't suffer from pixel update limits
L747[19:16:08] <Kubuxu> Sangar: With
instructions limit you are either way abowe because of loop or you
are ok. I thought rather about microoptimizations. Like fetching
globals to locals and so on.
L748[19:16:18] <Pwootage> I'll probably
write a manelbrot set generator as an example
L749[19:16:20] <Sangar> and buffer updates
from the shader would instantaneous (as in all direct, no limit,
only limited by scripts runtime / instruction count)
L750[19:16:28] <v^> Pwootage, i did that
:P
L751[19:16:40] <Pwootage> v^: yeah but on
the client side with neat scaling and fast stuff
L753[19:16:48] <gamax92> umm ...
L754[19:16:54] <v^> oh the client side
thing
L755[19:16:59] <v^> i also had neat
scaling
L756[19:17:06] <gamax92> Sangar: Here let
me give you an example.
L757[19:17:06] <Ender> Wobbo, for most of
my secondary school years i was in the bottom set with all the
hyperactive ADHD kids and when you have ADHD of the attentive type
(like me) you dont learn much
L758[19:17:07] <Pwootage> v^: it would be
slow though :P
L759[19:17:08] <Sangar> Kubuxu, i wouldn't
know how to enforce that in a performant way; if you have an idea
i'd be happy to limit it via time.
L760[19:17:15] <Pwootage> v^: I do want to
see it if I can though
L761[19:17:15] <v^> by neat i mean
glitchy
L762[19:17:20] <v^> .openp
L764[19:17:26] <gamax92> Sangar: So, my
image rendering stuff is a bunch of set and fill commands
L765[19:17:40] <Pwootage> Sangar: The
fastest method would be to have a buffer in lua that then gets
moved into scala with a gpu.swap()
L766[19:17:51] <gamax92> Sangar: the
script is litterally just a ton of function calls of set and
fill
L767[19:17:52] <Wobbo> Ender: That really
sucks, learning nothing because you don't get the support you
need
L768[19:18:18] <gamax92> Sangar: Would
that really take up less network?
L769[19:18:43] <Ender> Wobbo, we had an
LSA in the class but if something slightly bores me and theres
something more interesting going on my attention will be focused on
the more interesting thing (usually not the lesson)
L770[19:18:58] <Sangar> gamax92, unless
it's too long it could be the shader program. so it'd be moved to
the client once, then run as fast as the shader gets invoked. let's
say for t3 gpu once per tick. if that turns out not to be
unrealistic.
L771[19:19:00] <Pwootage> gamax92: it
would hands down use less bandwidth for many things, image
rendering less so, image scaling definately so
L772[19:19:51] <Kubuxu> Sangar: What is
targeted fps of shadered Screen.
L773[19:19:57] <gamax92> Sangar: oh i only
need it to run once.
L774[19:20:04] <gamax92> once its done the
picture is on the screen
L775[19:20:13] <Pwootage> gamax92: that
will be no faster
L776[19:20:23] <Kubuxu> s\./?
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L778[19:20:28] <Sangar> Pwootage,
swapping: true. so there'd be no need for the actual gpu
callbacks... hmmm. i kinda like it. mention it in the issue, would
you?
L779[19:20:28] <gamax92> Pwootage: why
not?
L780[19:20:34] <Pwootage> Sangar:
sure
L781[19:20:35] <Wobbo> Ender: Don't take a
laptop with you into class :P
L782[19:20:38] <gamax92> my image
rendering is limited by the gpu speed
L783[19:20:40] <Pwootage> gamax92:
actually it woudl be, since you can move the data in one tick
L784[19:20:48] <Pwootage> neat
L785[19:20:59] <Ender> Wobbo, at the time
i didnt have a laptop
L786[19:21:01] <Kubuxu> s/\./?
L787[19:21:02] <Kibibyte> <Sangar>
Pwootage, swapping: true? so there'd be no need for the actual gpu
callbacks... hmmm. i kinda like it. mention it in the issue, would
you?
L788[19:21:06] <gamax92> Sangar: oh also i
don't know how large the program is.
L789[19:21:12] <Ender> i am also not in
secondary school now
L790[19:21:16] <Sangar> well. uploading
the data would enforce a sleep. otherwise it'd be just setall once
per tick :P
L791[19:21:23] <Ender> and havent been for
the past 2-3 years
L792[19:21:28] <Sangar> so it'd behave
like a multi-tick operation
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L794[19:21:55] <gamax92> I just know my
program looks and is faster than v^'s oci :P
L795[19:21:56] <Kubuxu> So ~20fps.
L796[19:22:11] <Sangar> gamax92, well,
sizewise, in worst case you can split it up into several shader
programs and have them run sequentially i guess
L797[19:22:13] <v^> gamax92, how
again
L798[19:22:20] <Kubuxu> Thinking how to
make it harder for me.
L799[19:22:25] <v^> i forgot
L800[19:22:30] <Wobbo> Ender: I actually
had e lecturere where we weren't allowed to use laptops during
lectures,
L801[19:22:41] <Wobbo> Ender: And I know,
you're in College now right?
L802[19:22:46] <gamax92> v^: hold on let
me find your library
L803[19:22:46] <Ender> yeah
L804[19:22:47] <v^> Wobbo, rofl why
L805[19:23:14] <v^> 10/10 would be coding
in an english class
L806[19:23:20] <Sangar> Kubuxu, if we
follow Pwootage's suggestion with the swap, you'd be responsible to
set individual chars. so no fill etc. enough to optimize then,
speedwise, no? :P
L807[19:23:33] <Wobbo> v^: because laptops
are distracting. He had a point. But he also didn't want us to hand
in reports as pdfs.
L808[19:23:52] <Wobbo> v^: even though
they had to contain code since it was information security XD
L809[19:24:02] <gamax92> v^: oh, you
always set the background and you don't use set when you
could.
L810[19:24:03] <v^> Wobbo, lolwat
L811[19:24:03] <Pwootage> Well I'm
planning on writing a library that does basic 2d renders
L812[19:24:12] <v^> gamax92, ahhh
L813[19:24:25] <v^> Pwootage, > 2d
renders
L814[19:24:27] <v^> my what
L815[19:24:28] <gamax92> oh that reminds
me, Sangar is setting a horizontal line faster than filling a
horizontal line
L816[19:24:57] <Sangar> gamax92, yes
L817[19:25:00] <Wobbo> v^: Information
security people are weird…
L818[19:25:11] <Wobbo> v^: But he did
force us to use GPG, so thats good.
L819[19:25:12] <Vexatos> They are
secure
L820[19:25:43] <Wobbo> Vexatos: but not
trusting the handing in of reports over internet? That is
weird
L821[19:25:49] <gamax92> Sangar: like, it
would be set " " instead of fill (width 5) "
"
L822[19:26:01] <Pwootage> Sangar: how are
buffers stored internally? Char array + color array?
L823[19:27:15] <Sangar> gamax92, answer is
still "yes" :P
L824[19:27:15] <Kubuxu> Sangar: Seems
resonable.
L825[19:27:20] <gamax92> Sangar: k
L826[19:27:22] <Sangar> Pwootage,
yep
L827[19:27:24] <gamax92> v^: thats
why
L828[19:27:39] <gamax92> v^: though mine
also supports half pixels and palette
L829[19:28:18] <Pwootage> Sangar: if it
wasn't UTF-8 you could totally actually do the same thing with the
real GPU - write a shader and push those arrays as uniforms
L830[19:28:32] *
Ender is going out to watch the Hunger Games in a bit
L831[19:29:01] <Kubuxu> Sangar: What's
about Vector2 and Matrix33 \native/ operations? It could be
cool.
L832[19:29:12] <v^> Wobbo, >_>
information security people are usually paranoid as fuck
L833[19:29:14] <gamax92> oh wait Sangar,
if we have the shaders, would it be possible to say modify only the
color of existing text?
L834[19:29:23] <v^> but fail at
implementing algorithms
L835[19:29:25] <Pwootage> Kubuxu: that
would be part of a library
L836[19:29:29] <v^> *cough* Gravity
*cough*
L837[19:29:34] <Sangar> Kubuxu, i guess
that'd be fair.
L838[19:30:01] <Sangar> gamax92,
sure
L839[19:30:12] <Wobbo> Sangar, Kubuxu:
Wait, vector operations? Does that mean… GPU programming? :D
L840[19:30:15] <gamax92> Sangar: <3
that would make image rendering a crap load faster
L841[19:30:38] <gamax92> dump the spaces
and half blocks on the screen, dump the color for them
L842[19:30:42] <gamax92> image
L843[19:30:44] <Kubuxu> Sangar: But if you
couldn't use tables in uniforms we would need some kind of special
format.
L844[19:30:45] <Inari> :o
L845[19:30:52] <Sangar> Pwootage, i think
it'd make sense to have that natively, because it'd just eat up
script size for pretty much every shader ever written?
L846[19:31:17] <Pwootage> Sangar: I meant
as part of the lua kernel since that would probably be faster than
swapping to scala
L847[19:31:18] <Sangar> unless you meant
lib as native lib (well, java lib :P)
L848[19:31:28] <Sangar> ah
L849[19:31:35] <Sangar> but still as given
in all cases?
L850[19:31:40] <Inari> what cool new
features am i missing here?
L851[19:31:46] <Pwootage> Sangar:
yeah
L852[19:31:49] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: Could you
imagine Shader w/o verctors and matricies.
L853[19:31:50] <Sangar> then i think i can
agree :P
L854[19:31:52] <gamax92> Inari: possibly
much faster rendering
L855[19:32:28] <Pwootage> heh, writing an
actual GLSL shader for OC would be silly... but, I mean,
technically possible
L856[19:32:40] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: I was
thinking of using a GPU to do matrix calculations for my [INSERT
FANCY MACHINE LEARNING ALGORITHM HERE]
L857[19:32:46] <Inari> gamax92: so
realtime streaming from VLC ascii mode to OC will work
better?
L858[19:32:48] <Sangar> Kubuxu, well.
since the serialization code would have to be there for the data
anyway, i think tables in uniforms would be... fine. would just
have to be smaller to avoid hitting size limits.
L859[19:33:01] <gamax92> Inari: lol ...
maybe
L860[19:33:18] <Kubuxu> Sangar: Now I am
thinking how cool it would be if Shaders would be GLSL..
L861[19:33:28] <Sangar> Pwootage, for the
text rendering? i actually tried. and failed, because of the uv
coordinates iirc :P
L862[19:33:54] <Pwootage> Sangar: really?
I'm half-tempted to write a ascii/VGA style renderer in GLSL
now
L863[19:33:56] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: If you want
I have NN lib ready. Just missing back propagation. :C
L864[19:33:57] <Sangar> keep in mind that
the textures have to be swapped out for different chars, too (since
the lookup textures are created dynamically on demand)
L865[19:33:58] <gamax92> Sangar: can we
get a NES PPU :P
L866[19:34:22] <Pwootage> gamax92: not on
lua arch
L867[19:34:29] <Sangar> this is getting
out of hand already :D
L868[19:34:31] <gamax92> Pwootage: err
why
L869[19:34:39] <Vexatos> NES arch
L870[19:34:40] <Vexatos> .-.
L871[19:34:43] <gamax92> ... why
L872[19:34:44] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: On github?
And why no backpropagation?
L873[19:35:34] <Pwootage> Sangar: if I'm
only supporting ascii you only need one lookup texture
L874[19:35:51] <Sangar> well. yeah. if.
:P
L875[19:36:54] <gamax92> Sangar: the
screen text are an array of what type?
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L877[19:39:02] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: I wrote NN
and stopped. Wanted backpropagation but didn
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L879[19:39:09] <Kubuxu> 't finished
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L881[19:39:22] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: but that is
in Lua?
L882[19:39:28] <Sangar> gamax92,
currently? java Characters. in the planned shader stuffs? unsure.
probably array of array of string? because multibyte chars? and not
array of strings (lines) b/c performance.
L883[19:39:29] <Kubuxu> Wobbo; Yes
L884[19:39:41] <gamax92> Sangar:
figured
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L887[19:39:43] <Sangar> i.e. string in
lua. so byte array.
L888[19:39:45] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: I am away
for 5 min
L889[19:39:55] <gamax92> Sangar: oh
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L893[19:40:38] <Sangar> probably not a
real table at all
L894[19:40:47] <Vexatos> Is there any good
program to display TCP headers you get from websites?
L895[19:40:49] <Sangar> but userdata.
wrapping a java array of array of char
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L901[19:41:22] <Sangar> because the
conversion is needed anyway... so swapping probably wouldn't be
that much faster. if at all.
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L903[19:41:26] <Pwootage> Sangar: would an
array of ints be faster?
L904[19:41:36] <Pwootage> Vexatos: TCP
headers?
L905[19:41:48] <Pwootage> If you want http
headers chrome or firefox dev tools
L906[19:41:55] <Vexatos> Yea, I need some
way to read a full TCP header
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L908[19:42:01] <Pwootage> WireShark
L909[19:42:06] <sugoi> hello hello
L910[19:42:12] <Sangar> Pwootage, maybe.
have to check if there are any >2 byte chars. but i think not.
so that could work.
L911[19:42:12] <Pwootage> Hello!
L912[19:42:16] <Vexatos> Pwootage, I'll
look into that, thanks
L913[19:43:08] <Pwootage> Sangar: UTF-8
*can* be up to 4
L914[19:43:13] <Pwootage> but usually
isn't
L915[19:43:17] <Sangar> Pwootage, i
know.
L916[19:43:24] <Sangar> i mean
unifont
L917[19:43:27] <Vexatos> Pwootage, I am
really just interested in the data such a thing contains for a
certain case I have problems with :P
L918[19:43:42] <Pwootage> Vexatos: TCP
headers are very minimal, unlikely
L919[19:44:00] <Sangar> because anything
not unifont can't be rendered anyway, so meh :P
L920[19:44:05] <Wobbo> Sangar: But can we
have "Floating man in Busniss suit" if you limit at
2bytes? D:
L921[19:44:19] <gamax92> Wee gotta
go
L922[19:44:40] <Pwootage> Sangar: does
luaj/luajit support true ins or are they all floating point?
L923[19:44:41] <Sangar> so yeah, unifont
only has chars 2 byte wide, so that' work
L924[19:44:46] <Pwootage>
s/ins/ints/
L925[19:44:46] <Kibibyte> <Pwootage>
Sangar: does luaj/luajit support true ints or are they all floating
point?
L926[19:44:52] <Vexatos> Pwootage, how
many bytes is it usually in size
L927[19:45:03] <Sangar> Pwootage, exactly,
it doesn't. stores everything as double. hence int is ok. long
isn't.
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L929[19:45:14] <Pwootage> Vexatos: ascii
is 1 byte, extended chars are 2 generally
L930[19:45:31] <Vexatos> Pwootage, I mean
a TCP header >__>
L931[19:45:33] <Pwootage> Sangar: I'm
surprised luajit doesn't support ints, Javascript does it
internally
L932[19:45:44] <Pwootage> Vexatos: I can't
remember, wireshark will tell you though
L933[19:45:48] <Vexatos> k
L934[19:45:50] <Vexatos> Thanks :)
L935[19:45:55] <Sangar> aaand, i derped
again, so yeah. 4 byte stuff would work too. nvm :P
L936[19:46:01] <vifino> gamax92: y u
always hurt me
L937[19:46:07] <Sangar> 5.3 has true
ints!
L938[19:46:10] <Sangar> but we don't have
5.2
L939[19:46:13] <Sangar> *3
L940[19:46:16] <Pwootage> :(
L941[19:46:25] <Sangar> aaaanyway
L942[19:46:48] <Sangar> unconfusing this:
array of array of int might work, but i'm not sure this wouldn't be
a terrible pain to work with
L943[19:47:02] <Sangar> opinions?
L944[19:47:08] <Pwootage> Array of array
of int?
L945[19:47:13] <sugoi> for what
purpose?
L946[19:47:18] <Sangar> for text buffer in
the shader
L947[19:47:36] <Pwootage> I was thinking
int[] text; int[] color;
L948[19:47:45] <Pwootage> (well if it was
in C)
L949[19:47:48] <Wobbo> Sangar: I guess it
needs more arrays
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L951[19:48:16] <Sangar> flat one? but then
you'd even have to manually compute the index :P who wants to do
that? :P
L952[19:48:19] <Sandrafk> what on earth
are you doing.
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L954[19:48:25] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: Back to NN.
If you have configuration and weights it is fully functional.
L955[19:48:51] <Pwootage> Sangar: the
problem is double-arrays are incredibly slow in lua afaik
L956[19:48:58] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: So… its
mostly useless unless you want to crank numbers yourself? :P
L957[19:49:48] <Sangar> Pwootage, well.
they're two lookups vs one :P except it'll be integer based so
arrays, so it should be quite fast
L958[19:49:53] <Pwootage> y*w+k isn't too
bad and is waaaaay faster to my knowledge
L959[19:50:27] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: You can
learn NN outside of OC and then just whack it in.
L960[19:50:27] <Pwootage> I mean I guess I
could just try
L961[19:50:28] <Sangar> also you can just
localize the row you're working on :>
L962[19:51:27] <Pwootage> time to find
some lunch... back later
L963[19:51:28] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: you can
also write a webserver in (god forbid) matlab and communicate over
TCP, then it can continuelisly learn! :P
L964[19:51:28] <Sangar> but as i mentioned
above, i'm actually not sure this would be so efficient anyway.
because when swapping we'd have to convert it to the internal
format. not sure it wouldn't be faster to provide a userdata object
that wraps the real buffer instead.
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L966[19:52:02] <Pwootage> Sangar: one call
to scala for every array set will be slower
L967[19:52:42] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: But all
kidding aside, I would love to see your code
L969[19:53:04] <v^> Wobbo, ...
L970[19:53:06] <Sangar> probably. question
is how much, and that depends on how flat luaj's call forwarding
is. and i have no intuition about that :P
L971[19:53:13] <v^> a webserver in
matlab
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L973[19:53:20] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: You could
use compontents through internet card faster than old switches. We
did in. But yeah w/o implemented backtracking it is partially
operational.
L974[19:53:26] <Wobbo> v^: Yea, possible.
but fuck that
L975[19:53:54] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: It isn't
preatiest code but I am uploading.
L976[19:54:38] <v^> Wobbo, what everyone
said when i made a irc bot in brainfuck
L977[19:55:09] <Wobbo> v^: I have actually
seen it used by a lecturer at CS at my university.
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L979[19:55:22] <Kubuxu> v^: New challange
IRC bot in Qefunge.
L980[19:55:39] <Kubuxu> BeFunge but with
unlimited number of dimenstions.
L981[19:55:57] <Kubuxu> Wanted to make mod
with it.
L982[19:56:02] <v^> Kubuxu, i did that
IIRC
L983[19:56:06] <v^> its easier
L986[19:57:08] <v^> .> for l1=1,1000 do
print(math.random(0,255).."."..math.random(0,255).."."..math.random(0,255).."."..math.random(0,255))
end
L988[19:57:14] <Kubuxu> It needs a bit of
cleanup.
L989[19:58:09] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: one hidden
layer?
L990[19:58:17] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: Wait, just
one layer?
L991[19:58:19] <Kubuxu> Wobbo:
Configrable
L992[19:58:32] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: As many as
you want.
L993[19:58:48] <Kubuxu> {{count =
3,fun="sigmoid"}{count = 3,fun="sigmoid"}{count
= 1,fun="sigmoid"}}
L994[19:58:51] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: nvm, I
looked at the inputs and thought that was the entire network
:P
L995[19:59:15] <Kubuxu> .l ={{count =
3,fun="sigmoid"}{count = 3,fun="sigmoid"}{count
= 1,fun="sigmoid"}}
L996[19:59:15] <^v> Kubuxu, lua:1:
unexpected symbol near '='
L997[19:59:20] <Kubuxu> .l {{count =
3,fun="sigmoid"}{count = 3,fun="sigmoid"}{count
= 1,fun="sigmoid"}}
L998[19:59:21] <^v> Kubuxu, lua:1:
unexpected symbol near '{'
L999[19:59:28] <Kubuxu> .l print{{count =
3,fun="sigmoid"}{count = 3,fun="sigmoid"}{count
= 1,fun="sigmoid"}}
L1000[19:59:28] <^v> Kubuxu, lua:1: '}'
expected near '{'
L1001[19:59:41] <gamax92> commas between
}{
L1002[19:59:48] <Kubuxu> There is
something screw up.
L1003[19:59:53] <Kubuxu> In this
line
L1004[19:59:59] <sugoi> can io and os be
redirected in existing scripts without changing the jar?
L1005[20:00:10] <Kubuxu> Comas
L1006[20:00:10] <sugoi> redirected as in,
redfined
L1007[20:00:16] <Kubuxu> {{count =
3,fun="sigmoid"},{count =
3,fun="sigmoid"},{count =
1,fun="sigmoid"}}
L1008[20:00:16] <sugoi> redefined*
L1009[20:00:47] <sugoi> perhaps there is
some lua hack (my lua knowledge is limited)
L1010[20:01:10] <sugoi> but before
calling lua scripts, perhaps i can just assign io and os to my own
tables.. ?
L1011[20:01:14] <Sangar> sugoi, sure,
just replace them in init.lua. io is completely Lua side anyway, so
you can just change that in OpenOS (after installing it to a rw
disk).
L1012[20:01:18] <gamax92> .l print=error
print("Hello World!")
L1013[20:01:18] <^v> gamax92, lua:1:
Hello World!
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L1015[20:01:31] <sugoi> Sangar: ok - that
makes sense (for io)
L1016[20:01:31] <gamax92> werr ...
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L1018[20:01:52] <sugoi> Sangar: btw, i
want to build a remote shell over [real] tcp
L1019[20:02:13] <Sangar> nice
L1020[20:02:14] <Wobbo> sugoi: you can
use io.stdin to set the stdinput and io.stdout to set stdoutput if
I'm not mistaken
L1021[20:02:25] <Sangar> that will work,
too
L1022[20:02:33] <sugoi> ok
L1023[20:02:35] <Sangar> or should,
anyway :P
L1024[20:03:08] <Wobbo> Shouldn't it in
theory even be possible to use a socket as stdin and stdout?
L1025[20:03:22] <Wobbo> Also, sh.lua uses
the term library, not the io library I thinkg
L1026[20:03:24] <sugoi> Sangar: last
night was my first boot+install, was really excited to find it so
linuxy
L1027[20:03:32] <sugoi> so my first
thought was, how much bash do i have
L1028[20:03:39] <sugoi> followed by...i
need remote shell
L1029[20:04:14] <gamax92> oh jeez that
reminds me, i never sent Sangar my pr for the better tab
completetion
L1030[20:04:27] <Sangar> sugoi, heh. you
can give besh (loot disk) a go. it has rudimentary piping ... and
isn't utterly broken currently, i think.
L1031[20:04:42] <Sangar> gamax92, even
better? :P
L1032[20:05:10] <Wobbo> Sangar, sugoi: I
wouldn't know if besh is working, I try to stay away from that
monster as much as possible. But I might be biased
L1033[20:05:10] <gamax92> it doesn't
resolve to absolute filenames, if it wasn't absolute it stays
relative
L1034[20:05:31] <Sangar> Wobbo, just
because you wrote parts of it :P show some parental love!
L1035[20:05:43] <Sangar> gamax92,
ah
L1036[20:06:04] <Sangar> (parts? most of?
i can't even remember)
L1037[20:06:18] <gamax92> Sangar: i also
had some old globbing code that would handle * and ?
L1038[20:06:45] <Wobbo> Sangar: If I
don't give it any attention it might stop expecting things from me.
And then it won't ask me to come to its ballet class!
L1039[20:06:46] <gamax92> but that like
... in the days of chars.png
L1040[20:06:47] <Sangar> don't those work
already? i thought they did
L1041[20:07:03] <gamax92> pre vfs change
that lead to vcomponent
L1042[20:07:28] <gamax92> Sangar: Well
yeah like I said its old :P
L1043[20:07:36] <Sangar> Wobbo, hah. so
optimistic. it might also start stalking you and you may wake up
seeing it at your bedside one night!
L1044[20:07:41] <Sangar> hehe
L1045[20:07:41] <Wobbo> Sangar: Also, I
wrote var expansion for bash, you did piping :P
L1046[20:07:51] <Sangar> ahh, right
L1047[20:08:14] <Wobbo> Sangar: Luckely I
have my knifes locked… Wait they are out in the open! D:
L1048[20:08:37] <Sangar> are any missing?
:>
L1049[20:08:51] <Wobbo> No, they are all
still there
L1050[20:09:15] <Sangar> are you... sure?
(get paranoid already)
L1051[20:09:55] <Wobbo> Sangar: No,
paranoia will be delivered in June, its not finished yet
L1052[20:10:05] <gamax92> Sangar:
remember that time when SoniEx2 made or commented on PR's?
L1053[20:10:21] <Sangar> gamax92, i try
not to remember anything he writes >_>
L1054[20:10:24] <gamax92> lol
L1055[20:10:33] <Sangar> it's bad for my
blood pressure
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L1058[20:13:39] <Wobbo> I believe that it
might actually be bad for your blood pressure, not just figuretivly
speaking
L1059[20:13:55] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: How bad
is that code??
L1060[20:14:14] <Wobbo> Its different
from what I would have done, but not bad
L1062[20:14:37] <gamax92> blue is a nice
cool color
L1063[20:14:43] <Wobbo> Only don't know
how to input backward propagation in there yet
L1064[20:15:00] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: It was
coding hype so it can be bad.
L1065[20:15:02] <Sangar> gamax92, so
soothing
L1066[20:15:17] <gamax92> I don't even
know how well spread out my color palette is for blue
L1067[20:15:28] <gamax92> the yellow one
is simple: black -> red -> yellow -> white
L1068[20:15:45] <gamax92> the blue one is
like: black -> blue -> lighish blue -> white
L1069[20:15:46] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: I had
problem with that too. When you are looking on 6th page in google
it means you got key words wrong.
L1070[20:16:28] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: I meant
that the entire way you did it would be different then how I would
do it. I would use matrices to store the weights and activation and
then use a lot of linear algebra for the calculations
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L1072[20:17:39] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: Oh, seems
cool. Never thought or heard about that approach.
L1074[20:18:47] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: Its how I
was thought to implement NN. But the lecturere was a physicist from
origin, so that might have something to do with it
L1075[20:21:15] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: I'd love
to learn about it. Reshearching now.
L1076[20:21:43] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: I
wouldn't recommend the book we used, so you're on your own :P
L1077[20:22:52] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: What is
really annoying in your code is that you have important
"globals" with the same name as locals
L1078[20:23:13] <Sangar> Vexatos, haha.
and nobody noticed until today :P
L1079[20:23:53] <Vexatos> Sangar: I
actually just wanted to see how inet cards work
L1080[20:23:57] <Vexatos> so I looked
into that file
L1081[20:23:57] <Vexatos> :P
L1082[20:24:02] <Sangar> heh
L1083[20:24:34] <Vexatos> I wonder... how
is the card's TCP stuff handling redirects, Sangar
L1084[20:24:35] <Kubuxu> Wobbo: There are
constructors functions and then there are new objects.
L1085[20:24:52] <Sangar> Vexatos, ask
java
L1086[20:25:49] <Kubuxu> Should have
named them this or self
L1087[20:26:31] <Wobbo> Kubuxu: self
would have been better, yes
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L1092[20:30:57] <Vexatos> Hmm
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L1094[20:31:42] <Vexatos> I wonder what's
the very easiest way to see if a HTTP request is returning a
working connection
L1095[20:32:36] <v^> if it returns a code
200?
L1096[20:33:11] <Vexatos> But how to
check that
L1097[20:33:33] <v^> .w http
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L1101[20:34:30] <v^> #blame-sangar
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L1103[20:34:53] <v^> Vexatos, i assume
assert would work
L1104[20:34:58] <Pwootage> Heloooo
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L1106[20:35:13] <Vexatos> I am using
internet.open
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L1108[20:35:27] <Vexatos> so I'm getting
stuff back
L1109[20:35:34] <Vexatos> Where inside
that stuff is the response code
L1110[20:35:53] <Pwootage> If you're
opening raw tcp then you'll have to write your own http
library
L1111[20:35:54] <v^> well if the
connection failed, doesnt it return nil,errror ?
L1112[20:35:55] <Pwootage> (or find
one)
L1113[20:36:12] <Vexatos> v^, Nope
L1115[20:36:23] <Vexatos> I tried using a
link with a 509 error
L1116[20:36:43] <Vexatos> it does return
the full TCO header
L1117[20:36:45] <Vexatos> TCP*
L1118[20:36:46] <v^> well make sure you
are opening a http connection, rather than a tcp
L1119[20:36:54] <Vexatos> But no content,
obviously
L1120[20:37:01] <Vexatos> v^, can't
do
L1121[20:37:03] <Pwootage> Alright time
to mess around with benchmarking... probably with a test in OC or
something
L1122[20:37:05] <v^> Vexatos, wot
L1123[20:37:09] <Vexatos> files may be
32MB in size
L1124[20:37:18] <gamax92> Pwootage: Vroom
Vroom
L1125[20:37:23] <Vexatos> and downloading
that on OC
L1126[20:37:30] <Vexatos> with 4MB
HDDs
L1127[20:37:31] <Vexatos> yea...
L1128[20:37:34] <Vexatos> nope
L1129[20:37:36] <v^> well the server
responds with the code
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L1131[20:37:47] <v^> i actually forgot
the protocol, one sec
L1132[20:37:49] <Vexatos> I know it
does
L1133[20:37:57] <Vexatos> But I can't
seem to find where exactly it
L1134[20:37:58] <Vexatos> is
L1135[20:38:04] <Vexatos> Interweb isn't
helpful
L1136[20:38:05] <Vexatos> :|
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L1140[20:39:24] <gamax92> v^: Vroom
Vroom
L1142[20:40:30] <Vexatos> v^, what's
that
L1143[20:40:45] <v^> Vexatos, its how my
webserver handles requests
L1145[20:41:07] <Vexatos> That's the
program I'm working on
L1146[20:41:24] <Vexatos> as you can see,
no HTTP error handling so far and I need to remedy that
L1147[20:41:47] <v^> Vexatos,
errrrrr
L1148[20:41:48] <Pwootage> I really hope
tape drives are sequential-only data access
L1149[20:41:52] <v^> you are reading in
blocks
L1150[20:41:59] <v^> but matching
multiple characters
L1152[20:42:21] <gamax92> Pwootage: umm
what?
L1153[20:42:54] <v^> there is a chance
the content length would be inbetween block
L1155[20:43:00] <gamax92> v^: lol i said
this to him.
L1156[20:43:16] <sugoi> i like how v^'s
comment was also between block
L1157[20:43:18] <sugoi> s
L1158[20:43:22] <Vexatos> v^, I have a
check for that
L1159[20:43:31] <Vexatos> line 174
L1160[20:43:43] <Vexatos> Oh, content
length
L1161[20:43:54] <Vexatos> Well, it's not
required
L1162[20:44:01] <v^> it kindof is
L1163[20:44:07] <Vexatos> so if it can't
find it, it simply won't be shown in the program
L1164[20:44:08] <v^> with keepalive you
wont know when it ends
L1165[20:44:11] <Pwootage> brb, need to
reboot
L1166[20:44:23] <gamax92> v^: its not
keep alive?
L1167[20:44:27] <Vexatos> ^
L1168[20:44:47] <v^> Connection: close
isnt supported on some webservers for some reason
L1169[20:44:57] <Vexatos> The question
is, is there any easy way to merge all the blocks containing the
TCP header
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L1171[20:45:05] <gamax92> Vexatos: what
was the reason we couldn't use the http api?
L1172[20:45:12] <Vexatos> gamax92, 32MB
files
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L1174[20:45:41] <gamax92> Vexatos: that
doesn't answer my question
L1175[20:45:45] <v^> or you could
L1176[20:45:52] <v^> just modify the http
api
L1177[20:45:57] <v^> for your async
sending needs
L1178[20:45:58] <Vexatos> ah, you mean
why I'm using the component instead of the API
L1179[20:46:08] <gamax92> Vexatos: i mean
why you are using raw tcp sockets
L1180[20:46:23] <Pwootage> uh, there's no
way you can read 32mb in OC with http api
L1181[20:46:25] <v^> gamax92, because the
http api takes the post as a single string
L1182[20:46:27] <Pwootage> you have to
process it as you go
L1183[20:46:34] <gamax92> ahh
right.
L1184[20:46:39] <Pwootage> considering
max ram is 4mb >.>
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L1186[20:46:41] <Vexatos> Which is why
I'm reading blocks
L1187[20:46:47] <v^> but you could
easialy modify the http api >_>
L1188[20:46:55] <Vexatos> v^, I don't
want to
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L1190[20:47:17] <sugoi> well you could cp
it and then modify you variation
L1191[20:47:26] <sugoi> might save you a
lot of http work
L1192[20:47:36] <sugoi> your*
variation
L1193[20:48:02] <Vexatos> v^, couldn't I
move the check "\r\n\r\n" check up, add any block before
that to some "header" variable
L1194[20:48:09] <Vexatos> and then read
content-length from that
L1195[20:48:48] <Vexatos> Also, what's
the TCP string marking the HTTP response, I'm quite sure there is
one
L1196[20:49:19] <sugoi> Sangar
L1197[20:49:20] <v^> just read blocks
until you see "\r\n" then split by lines, repeat
L1198[20:49:36] <Vexatos> Yea
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L1200[20:50:00] <Vexatos> read and add to
headers
L1201[20:50:07] <Vexatos> until
"headers" contains \r\n\r\n
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L1204[20:51:48] <Vexatos> Thanks to
everyone
L1205[20:51:58] <Vexatos> and thanks to
v^ when he's back :|
L1206[20:51:59] <Vexatos> B ye
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L1209[20:54:51] <Magik6k> Has anyone here
done powerdns master <-> slave configuration?
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L1211[20:55:31] <Caitlyn> Magik6k, I did,
said fuckit and went back to DB replication :p
L1212[20:55:53] <Magik6k> Caitlyn, I;m at
stage of looking at auth code
L1213[20:56:21] <Magik6k> And I have no
funking idea why it still fails
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L1216[20:56:44] <Caitlyn> Like I said...
I went back to DB replication
L1217[20:59:41] <Magik6k> OMFGSRSLY
L1219[21:00:02] <Magik6k> and then guess
what is set by default in config
L1220[21:01:34] <Magik6k> \o/ IT
WORKED
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L1263[22:48:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Oyus,
watching Pirates of the Carribean in class, I can use my laptop
>:D Whole lesson!
L1264[22:48:51] ***
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L1265[22:49:15] <Kubuxu> Why are you
watching Pirates of the Carribean in class??
L1266[22:49:20] <Kubuxu>
ShadowKatStudios6^
L1267[22:50:19] ***
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L1268[22:50:32] <Pwootage> ....and I'm
back :3
L1269[22:50:34] <Pwootage> might even do
that benchmarking now
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L1271[22:51:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
Kubuxu: Because we finished all the work
L1272[22:51:45] <Kubuxu>
ShadowKatStudios: Already?
L1273[22:51:48] <Kubuxu> Wow.
L1274[22:51:54] <Kubuxu> Ohhh.
L1275[22:51:57] <ShadowKatStudios> It's
two weeks till the end of the year.
L1276[22:52:06] <Kubuxu> Semester..
L1277[22:52:20] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nope.
L1278[22:52:28] <ShadowKatStudios> End of
the school year.
L1279[22:52:39] <Kubuxu> Where are you
living>
L1280[22:52:53] <Kubuxu> It's
weird.
L1281[22:53:00] <ShadowKatStudios>
Australia.
L1282[22:53:08] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
pretty sure quite a few places are like this.
L1283[22:53:24] <Kubuxu> TIL.
L1284[22:53:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Can't
tell if distorted sound or my computer is too slow to emulate a
PS1
L1285[22:53:54] <Kubuxu> When you start
again?
L1286[22:54:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Near
the end of January
L1287[22:54:31] <Kubuxu> That explains
everything.
L1288[22:55:10] <Kubuxu> We had loooong
brainstorm why school connected google searches rises also in
January.
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L1291[22:55:47] <Kubuxu> For us it the
rise in September was natural, but rise in Janurary was
weird.
L1292[22:56:04] <CompanionCube> September
-> july here
L1293[22:56:13] <CompanionCube> For
school/college
L1294[22:57:04] <Kubuxu> World is weird.
When does univercitys' year starts?
L1295[22:57:14] <Kubuxu>
s/starts/start
L1296[22:57:14] <Kibibyte> <Kubuxu>
World is weird. When does univercitys' year start?
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L1298[22:57:18] <CompanionCube>
idfk
L1299[22:57:26] <Kubuxu> I am
tired...
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L1301[22:57:57] <ds84182>
switch_context_now();
L1302[22:57:59] <ds84182> woops
L1303[23:00:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm,
besides audio, FF VII on a PSX emulator runs fine on my
laptop
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L1305[23:01:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Can't
cope with cutscenes though
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L1309[23:08:17] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios: remind me never to use libreoffice draw
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L1313[23:11:07] <ShadowKatStudios>
CompanionCube: Why?
L1314[23:11:12] <ShadowKatStudios>
Ohwait
L1315[23:11:15] <ShadowKatStudios>
Draw
L1316[23:12:07] <CompanionCube> the
export functions suck ass
L1317[23:12:51] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios: ^
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L1320[23:30:51] <PotatoTrumpet>
Hello
L1321[23:31:03] *
PotatoTrumpet waves at humans
L1322[23:31:12] *
Brycey92 waves back
L1323[23:31:27] *
PotatoTrumpet throws sticks at Brycey92
L1324[23:31:35] <PotatoTrumpet> Hmm,
1.4.1
L1325[23:31:40] *
Brycey92 hides behind a tree
L1326[23:31:49] *
PotatoTrumpet throws trees at Brycey92
L1327[23:32:10] *
Brycey92 hides in a nearby building
L1328[23:32:24] *
PotatoTrumpet throws buildings at Brycey92
L1329[23:32:43] *
Brycey92 throws rubble back
L1330[23:33:04] *
PotatoTrumpet throws mini blackhole at Brycey92 that closes after
he goes through.
L1331[23:33:39] *
Brycey92 escapes with a personal warp field generator
L1332[23:33:55] *
PotatoTrumpet puts Brycey92 in a while true loop
L1333[23:34:06] <PotatoTrumpet> So, I
used Dreamweaver today
L1334[23:34:39] *
Brycey92 uses an oracle machine and stops the loop
L1335[23:34:39] <Pwootage> I'm
sorry
L1336[23:35:17] <Pwootage> Dreamweaver is
bad
L1337[23:35:24] <PotatoTrumpet> Mr.
KnowItAllTeacher says all the professionals use it
L1338[23:35:33] <Pwootage> ha
L1339[23:35:34] <Pwootage> he's
wrong
L1340[23:35:43] <PotatoTrumpet> This
kids, is why you don't let Football coaches teach tech
classes
L1341[23:35:55] <Pwootage> web designers
may use it, but web designers also use photoshop
L1342[23:36:03] <PotatoTrumpet> Football
Americano
L1343[23:36:07] <Pwootage> web developers
use notpad, phpstorm, webstorm, eclipse, etc
L1344[23:36:18] <PotatoTrumpet> I love
notpad
L1345[23:36:25] <Pwootage> I've written
code in notepad
L1346[23:36:27] <PotatoTrumpet> better
than ispad
L1347[23:36:33] <Pwootage> much happier
with an IDE
L1348[23:36:35] <Ender> Notepad++ is
better
L1349[23:36:49] <PotatoTrumpet>
Programmers Notepad is better for me
L1350[23:37:06] *
PotatoTrumpet wonders why ender was awa never mind
L1351[23:37:27] <PotatoTrumpet>
Dreamweaver is better than TextWrangler
L1352[23:37:45] <Pwootage> it has an ok
editor but dynamic webpages are the internet, not static ones
L1353[23:37:55] <Ender> Though if I'm
doing coding on GUI environment i'll use Sublime Text though
recently I've been using vim
L1354[23:38:00] <PotatoTrumpet> If I have
to use that one more time, I think suicide might be a good
alternative.
L1355[23:38:22] <Ender> Also just got
back from watching the hunger games
L1356[23:38:36] <PotatoTrumpet> Spoil it,
and I will have to end you.
L1357[23:38:43] <Pwootage> Sublime is
pretty awesome for general text editing and basic code
helping
L1358[23:38:43] *
PotatoTrumpet wants to see it
L1359[23:38:51] <Brycey92> read the books
PotatoTrumpet
L1360[23:38:55] <PotatoTrumpet> I
have
L1361[23:38:56] <PotatoTrumpet> all
3
L1362[23:39:01] <PotatoTrumpet> 8th
grade
L1363[23:39:05] <PotatoTrumpet> 2 years
ago
L1364[23:39:19] <PotatoTrumpet>
fuck
L1365[23:39:25] <PotatoTrumpet> christmas
parade saturday
L1366[23:39:31] <PotatoTrumpet> going to
be freezing cold
L1367[23:39:43] <PotatoTrumpet> :(
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L1369[23:40:00] <PotatoTrumpet> Hi
TwoWormHoles
L1370[23:40:27] <CompanionCube> my web
class uses both photoshop and np++
L1371[23:40:44] <Ender> PotatoTrumpet,
they defeat the Gou'ald
L1372[23:40:57] <PotatoTrumpet> Mine uses
photoshop and TextWrangler (school bought iMacs
L1373[23:40:58] <PotatoTrumpet> )
L1374[23:41:06] <PotatoTrumpet> and now
Dreamweaver
L1375[23:41:12] <CompanionCube>
Ewwww
L1376[23:41:16] <PotatoTrumpet> Teacher
doesn't teach
L1377[23:41:24] <PotatoTrumpet> has some
old book
L1378[23:41:27] <Ender> My college has
the cs6 package
L1379[23:41:33] <PotatoTrumpet> mine has
5.5
L1380[23:41:44] <CompanionCube> Let me
guess, tables for layout and no CSS?
L1381[23:41:56] <PotatoTrumpet> Yep
L1382[23:42:08] <PotatoTrumpet> and I
have learned everything for w3schools
L1383[23:42:16] <PotatoTrumpet> much
help
L1384[23:43:06] *
PotatoTrumpet jailbroke his phone
L1385[23:43:14] <PotatoTrumpet> don't
know what to put on it
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L1387[23:43:42] *
CompanionCube has wifikill & dsploit on his rooted
tab
L1388[23:43:47] <Ender> CompanionCube,
last year most of my class used tables and made them invisible. I
just used Foundation (css package) and php (for the includes)
synced with my VPS via dropbox at first then github
L1389[23:43:48] <CompanionCube> xposed
too
L1390[23:43:57] <Brycey92> put some theme
that doesnt make ios8 look so childish
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L1392[23:44:37] <Ender> I'm not sure if I
still have that site anywhere... hmm
L1393[23:44:57] <CompanionCube> I used
tables to crete
L1394[23:45:10] <CompanionCube> create a
diagram for TCP/IP
L1395[23:46:19] <Ender> If they're used
for positioning diagrams and such their fine. For positioning base
page elements (navbar, banner, whatever) then you're doing it
wrong
L1396[23:46:24] <PotatoTrumpet> So thats
what vim is
L1397[23:46:26] <Ender> They also used
frames
L1398[23:46:28] <PotatoTrumpet>
/stupid
L1399[23:46:56] <Ender> PotatoTrumpet,
implying stupidity stop
L1400[23:47:08] <Ender> Stops*
L1401[23:47:12] <PotatoTrumpet> Yah
L1402[23:47:19] <PotatoTrumpet> it never
stops with me
L1403[23:47:33] *
CompanionCube will possibly be using linux in the lab
L1404[23:47:50] <CompanionCube> i should
bring the cntlm .deb with me
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L1406[23:48:38] <Brycey92> thank god VLC
is able to play incomplete files
L1407[23:48:47] <CompanionCube> Just in
case the network wasn't configured
L1408[23:48:52] <Brycey92> saves a lot of
time waiting for torrent downloads to complete
L1409[23:48:54] <Ender> Vic is
awesome
L1410[23:49:04] <Ender> Tablet
please
L1411[23:49:07] <Inari> so how did that
faster rendering thingy turned out?
L1412[23:49:31] <Inari> *turn
L1413[23:49:51] <CompanionCube> Ender: on
monday the class was introduced to package managers
L1414[23:49:52] <PotatoTrumpet> I didn't
know VLC Could do that
L1415[23:50:14] <CompanionCube> Much
sudo. Very debian.
L1416[23:50:30] <Ender> Lola
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L1418[23:50:37] <Ender> Garr
L1419[23:51:04] <vifino> CompanionCube:
inb4 pacman
L1420[23:51:05] *
CompanionCube had to google to check yum/RPM syntax
L1421[23:51:39] <CompanionCube> vifino: i
supplied commands for 3 different pi distro
L1422[23:51:54] <vifino> CompanionCube:
s
L1423[23:52:10] <vifino> CompanionCube:
waht distros
L1424[23:52:11] <CompanionCube> Raspbian,
Pidora and Alarm
L1425[23:52:21] <vifino> ogod,
fedora
L1426[23:52:30] <vifino> quick,
hide
L1427[23:52:34] *
vifino hides
L1428[23:52:40] <CompanionCube> ikr
L1429[23:52:48] *
PotatoTrumpet hides behind vifino
L1430[23:53:02] *
vifino pushes PotatoTrumpet away
L1431[23:53:13] <CompanionCube> RPM
sucks
L1432[23:53:13] *
PotatoTrumpet punches vifino in the nose
L1433[23:53:20] *
vifino cries
L1434[23:53:28] *
PotatoTrumpet points finger and laughs
L1435[23:53:38] *
Brycey92 hides behind the ruins of the buildings PotatoTrumpet
threw at me
L1436[23:54:01] *
PotatoTrumpet calls the maid
L1437[23:54:09] *
vifino gets out shotgun and shoots PotatoTrumpet's head
off
L1438[23:54:11] *
Ender sends PotatoTrumpet to the corner
L1439[23:54:26] <CompanionCube> I <3
pacaur on dektop
L1440[23:54:27] *
PotatoTrumpet grabs shotoff head and sits in corner
L1441[23:54:37] <vifino>
s/pacaur/yaourt/
L1442[23:54:37] <Kibibyte>
<CompanionCube> I <3 yaourt on dektop
L1443[23:54:43] <vifino>
*lennyface*
L1444[23:54:44] <CompanionCube> no
u
L1445[23:54:52] <PotatoTrumpet>
myreaction.gif
L1446[23:55:16] <vifino> lul, i read
myerection.gif
L1447[23:55:21] <Ender> s/./
YOGHURT/g
L1448[23:55:21] <Kibibyte> <vifino>
YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT
YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT
YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT YOGHURT
YOGHURT YOGHURT
L1449[23:55:28] <PotatoTrumpet> DEAR
GOD
L1450[23:55:40] *
PotatoTrumpet puts Kibibyte down
L1451[23:55:42] <Brycey92> omg wat
L1452[23:55:44] <vifino> Ender: pls, at
least french
L1453[23:55:52] <gamax92> everything
looks like yog-hurt
L1454[23:56:12] <vifino> yaourt and
baguette are the only words i know in french
L1455[23:56:16] <Brycey92> s/./WHAT
/g
L1456[23:56:16] <Kibibyte> <vifino>
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
WHAT WHAT WHAT
L1457[23:56:19] <Brycey92> omg
L1458[23:56:21] <Ender>
s/./Bonjoir/g
L1459[23:56:21] <Kibibyte>
<Brycey92> BonjoirBonjoirBonjoir
L1460[23:56:23] <gamax92> lol
L1461[23:57:10] <PotatoTrumpet> Gamax es
feo y bajo.
L1462[23:57:19] <vifino> gamax92 is all
like 'lol'
L1463[23:57:59] <PotatoTrumpet> Yo soy
comico.
L1464[23:58:04] <PotatoTrumpet>
Jajaja
L1465[23:58:34] <vifino> PotatoTrumpet:
You know that you don't need to say the person because of
soy?
L1466[23:58:44] <vifino>
#rektinspain
L1467[23:58:50] <vifino>
#rektinspanish
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L1469[23:58:56] <PotatoTrumpet> vifino: I
can if I want
L1470[23:59:43] <PotatoTrumpet> Tu eres
feo.
L1471[23:59:49] <PotatoTrumpet> Nuff
said.