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L1[00:00:00] <v^> 128 opcodes pls
L2[00:00:50] <Pwootage> Yeah because I definately need that many
L3[00:00:54] <v^> i do
L4[00:01:07] <Pwootage> or1k has 6bit main opcode plus more based on what the first 6 are
L5[00:01:42] <Pwootage> For the record, https://github.com/Pwootage/SASM assmebler https://github.com/Pwootage/wriscvm vm
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L8[00:03:56] <v^> my why
L9[00:04:20] <v^> only 16 labels?
L10[00:06:03] <Pwootage> ...what? 16 labels?
L11[00:06:12] <Pwootage> There's no limitation on label count
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L14[00:39:53] <Pwootage> Yay, publishing over maven
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L19[00:49:42] <Pwootage> ...I just realized how dumb the exclimation "Shh!" is
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L21[00:59:40] <Kubuxu> Do you wnat to break my brand new solver bot?
L22[01:00:30] <Pwootage> What does it solve?
L23[01:01:00] <Kubuxu> Equesions
L24[01:01:15] <Pwootage> sure
L25[01:01:24] <Pwootage> s/Equesions/Equations/
L26[01:01:24] <MichiBot> Pwootage: sure
L27[01:01:29] <Pwootage> .....nice job
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L29[01:02:06] <EnderBot2> !kick BestBotEver Your owner does not have permission to bring you here. (if you feel this is an error then please tell JoshTheEnder or Sangar)
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L31[01:02:20] <Kubuxu> :C
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L33[01:02:37] <Kubuxu> shee
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L35[01:03:06] <Kubuxu> :calc log(x,10)=5
L36[01:03:07] <BestEver> 100000
L37[01:03:36] <Kubuxu> Every thing in math is accesible. Most propably do not work
L38[01:04:08] <Kubuxu> :calc x^2+3=0
L39[01:04:08] <BestEver> .\\/ircbot/solver.lua:32: I'am not complex enough.
L40[01:05:47] <Pwootage> :calc 3x+5y=5y + 3
L41[01:05:47] <BestEver> attempt to call a nil value
L42[01:05:54] <Pwootage> I broked it
L43[01:06:37] <Kubuxu> It sill woks just isn;t complex enoguh
L44[01:06:40] <Kubuxu> :P
L45[01:07:05] <Kubuxu> :calc log(pi)
L46[01:07:05] <BestEver> 1.1447298858494
L47[01:07:30] <Pwootage> :calc 2*pi*r=15
L48[01:07:31] <BestEver> [string "return function(x) return 2*pi*r-(15) end"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'r' (a nil value)
L49[01:07:39] <Pwootage> :calc 2*pi*x=15
L50[01:07:39] <BestEver> 2.3873241463784
L51[01:07:39] <Kubuxu> not yet
L52[01:07:50] <Kubuxu> but in future
L53[01:08:39] <Kubuxu> Custom arguments will be simple but for w variables i would have to change solver.
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L55[01:09:40] <Kubuxu> :calc 0xb
L56[01:09:40] <BestEver> 11
L57[01:09:52] <Kubuxu> :calc 08
L58[01:09:53] <BestEver> 8
L59[01:10:09] <Kubuxu> :calc 010
L60[01:10:09] <BestEver> 10
L61[01:10:32] <Kubuxu> TIL lua do not have octal system in it
L62[01:12:40] <Kubuxu> :calc 0b11
L63[01:12:40] <BestEver> attempt to call a nil value
L64[01:12:56] <Kubuxu> :calc 3x+5y=5y + 3
L65[01:12:57] <BestEver> attempt to call a nil value
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L67[01:14:08] <Kubuxu> :calc r
L68[01:14:08] <BestEver> [string "return function(x) return r-(x) end"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'r' (a nil value)
L69[01:15:52] <Kubuxu> :calc local t = 1 for i=1 , 10 do t = t * i end t
L70[01:15:52] <BestEver> attempt to call a nil value
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L72[01:17:46] <v^> Kubuxu, #ocbots
L73[01:18:37] <Kubuxu> cool
L74[01:20:38] <Pwootage> This channel probably has more bots than pretty much every other channel on Esper
L75[01:23:08] <Techokami> what about those bot testing channels? :V
L76[01:23:59] <Kubuxu> Bots testing bots...
L77[01:24:07] <Kubuxu> Oh yeah.
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L79[01:26:03] <Kubuxu> Me and Magik6k are currently working on bot for our base. I started plaing with it today.
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L81[01:28:34] <v^> \o/
L82[01:28:41] <v^> .logo Magik6k
L83[01:28:42] <^v> v^, http://ptoast.tk/logo/kNFSJ.png
L84[01:29:19] <Kubuxu> or Magik6000 no one have friking idea why he have two different nicks.
L85[01:29:38] <v^> i have 4
L86[01:29:44] <Kubuxu> Why you changed to hashes.
L87[01:29:56] <Kubuxu> But he have 2 almost the same.
L88[01:30:01] <v^> ping pong v^ PixelToast
L89[01:30:55] <Kubuxu> The v^ is the coolest one ;[
L90[01:30:57] <Kubuxu> ;p
L91[01:31:14] <v^> .p
L92[01:31:15] <^v> Ping reply from v^ 0.36s
L93[01:33:11] <Kubuxu> Recently we had a problem with OC as print() was causing too long without yelding. And that was only one string.
L94[01:34:20] <Pwootage> It's just confusing with v^ and ^v imo
L95[01:34:30] <Pwootage> (not that I havn't gotten used to it)
L96[01:35:32] <Kubuxu> New error yeah .\\/ircbot/solver.lua:13: table index is NaN
L97[01:37:37] <Kubuxu> Have a good day, night or whaterver. I go to sleep.
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L99[01:42:22] <Pwootage> .wiki maven
L100[01:42:22] <^v> Pwootage, Not found. did you want "math api"?
L101[01:42:31] <Pwootage> Presumably OC is posted in a maven repo somewhere, anyone know where?
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L139[06:02:16] <OryHara2001> wavin, just to make sure, computers can be crafted without the missing recipes right?
L140[06:02:45] <OryHara2001> cause i have the normal 3 of acid, cuttingwire and circuitboard
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L142[06:52:36] <ShadowKatStudios> OryHara2001, those items are only used in hardmode.
L143[06:53:25] <skyem123> "Good" morning...
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L146[07:01:28] <ShadowKatStudios> skyem123: Bad day?
L147[07:02:02] <skyem123> I'm tired
L148[07:02:22] <skyem123> I woke up 58 minutes ago
L149[07:02:37] <ShadowKatStudios> ~5AM?
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L151[07:04:32] <skyem123> 6:04AM
L152[07:09:28] <skyem123> Gah. I found it hard to sleep.
L153[07:09:45] <ShadowKatStudios> TIL Microsoft uses a version of Unix for their servers.
L154[07:10:00] <skyem123> Heh
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L157[07:22:33] <ShadowKatStudios> I must update my site with pictures of nagato.
L158[07:23:10] <Kubuxu> TIL that esper.net do not like my VPN :C and I am behind proxy. :[
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L160[07:27:02] <Kubuxu> Is it possible to connect to esper by port 443?
L161[07:28:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Seems not, why doesn't it like your VPN? Are there any hosts capible of irssi on said VPN?
L162[07:28:51] <CompanionCube> Kubuxu, why not 6697?
L163[07:29:52] <Kodos> In less than a week I've eaten a bag of kit kats, a bag of reeses minis, half a bag of milky way, and consumed ~4 gallons of tea
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L165[07:29:59] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L166[07:30:03] <Kodos> I love halloween
L167[07:30:09] <Kubuxu> Because I am proxyed so I have probably only 80 and 433.
L168[07:30:10] <Vexatos> \o
L169[07:31:10] <Kubuxu> I am using VPN to get into my Jenkins at 8080 but whole iprange is banned on esper.net
L170[07:32:13] <Kubuxu> Hi Vexatos.
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L174[08:06:43] <skyem123> .p
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L181[08:33:09] <vifi> Server's network ded :'(
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L183[08:39:58] <vifi> ShadowKatStudios: Halp :'(
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L187[08:58:40] <ShadowKatStudios> So I just walked down a relatively major road carrying a full-size tower computer
L188[08:58:59] <ShadowKatStudios> The looks I got were gold.
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L194[09:02:18] <vifi> Wee! My rescue mission seems to have been successful
L195[09:03:14] <vifi> or, atleast i fixed my syntax error in /etc/network/interfaces
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L197[09:03:30] <vifi> s/syntax //
L198[09:03:30] <MichiBot> vifi: or, atleast i fixed my error in /etc/network/interfaces
L199[09:04:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Now I need to figure out the issue with this desktop.
L200[09:04:13] * vifi waves to ShadowKatStudios
L201[09:04:48] * ShadowKatStudios waves to vifi
L202[09:05:41] <vifi> As soon as my mom gets her cards back, she promised me to buy me the dedi
L203[09:06:01] <vifi> Which makes the error solvable without waisting $$$
L204[09:06:10] <vifi> via kvm over ip
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L206[09:06:18] <^v> Oh noes! nova split 3:
L207[09:06:47] <vifi> huh, irssi isnt all bad
L208[09:06:50] <vifi> 10:06 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Sorroko
L209[09:07:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I use irssi at least once a week
L210[09:08:12] * vifi is weechatian
L211[09:09:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Chatzilla for me, though my server only runs irssi
L212[09:09:50] * vifi pokes Sorroko_
L213[09:13:03] <vifi> mfw it still isn't reachable
L214[09:13:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Having access to the real server is the best way \o/
L215[09:14:10] <vifi> fak u :(
L216[09:27:36] <ShadowKatStudios> I need to obtain Quake
L217[09:28:51] <vifi> DooM masterrace
L218[09:38:49] <vifi> fak u ec2 :(
L219[09:39:11] <vifi> stuff no werks
L220[09:39:33] <vifi> i corrected the shit, and it still doesnt work
L221[09:39:35] <vifi> .-.
L222[09:40:58] <vifi> ima just put some correcting shit in /etc/rc.local
L223[10:01:13] <gjgfuj> Anyone here? :P
L224[10:01:34] <vifi> no
L225[10:01:41] <gjgfuj> alrighty then.
L226[10:10:17] <ShadowKatStudios> :D This new desktop works!
L227[10:10:25] <vifi> lies
L228[10:11:02] <vifi> i hope i fixed my server
L229[10:11:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Shit, now I need a hostname for it.
L230[10:11:33] <vifi> ifconfig eth0 up in rc.local :p
L231[10:11:49] <vifi> also dhclient eth0
L232[10:12:05] <vifi> because it doesnt seem to put it up
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L236[10:13:51] * ShadowKatStudios is impressed
L237[10:14:01] * ShadowKatStudios must now come up with a name for this new computer
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L239[10:14:41] <Vexatos> SKS: Call it Sangar
L240[10:14:50] <Vexatos> Or Snagar
L241[10:15:07] <vifi> SKS: Call it Kotomi
L242[10:16:16] <vifi> ShadowKatStudios: http://static.zerochan.net/Ichinose.Kotomi.full.1668103.jpg
L243[10:38:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Beyond Hyun-ae, I can't come up with a decent hostname for this new desktop.
L244[10:38:37] <vifi> ShadowKatStudios: Kotomi ._.
L245[10:38:49] <ShadowKatStudios> From Clannad?
L246[10:38:56] <vifi> I have no idea
L247[10:39:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Ironically, she would be the most computery person in that show.
L248[10:40:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Shiro perhaps...
L249[10:42:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Shiro.
L250[10:43:00] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
L251[10:43:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Time to swap the processors.
L252[10:43:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm taking the E7400 for myself :D
L253[10:44:25] <ShadowKatStudios> vifi: Actually read the message with the picture, that *is* Kotomi from Clannad.
L254[10:44:26] <vifi> Sorroko_: Tell me whats wrong ._. http://hastebin.com/tusogivebo.vhdl
L255[10:44:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Unfortunately, my naming scheme is based on anime girls that are good with computers, so she's out. :P
L256[11:01:43] <vifi> ShadowKatStudios: Would you help me fix my server?
L257[11:02:13] <vifi> My servers network doesn't want to work
L258[11:03:31] <vifi> I'm currently running a second, weaker server with the hd of the faulty server attached
L259[11:14:56] <ShadowKatStudios> I dun't know much about network config
L260[11:35:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Fuck catalyst. OSS drivers it is- I'm not rolling back to an earlier Xorg version, because Arch.
L261[11:35:29] <Vexatos> Hooray. OCC check done.
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L263[12:00:08] <vifi> omg, my girlfriend gave me a vps because mine broke :o
L264[12:00:23] <vifi> omg i am such lucky
L265[12:00:43] <ShadowKatStudios> vifi: Such luck comes rarely.
L266[12:00:46] <ShadowKatStudios> I need a drink.
L267[12:00:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Fuck ATI.
L268[12:04:00] <vifi> ShadowKatStudios: She saved me from suiciding :o
L269[12:04:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I have to go to bed.
L270[12:14:36] <ShadowKatStudios> I have returned.
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L272[12:20:52] <vifi> ShadowKatStudios: Meeep!
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L288[13:07:32] <KubuxuNotebook> It worked. :p
L289[13:08:06] <vifi> Lies
L290[13:08:52] <Vexatos> errrrrr what
L291[13:08:54] <Vexatos> uhm
L292[13:08:54] <Vexatos> what
L293[13:08:56] <Vexatos> wat
L294[13:08:58] <Vexatos> .-.
L295[13:08:59] <Vexatos> WHAT
L296[13:09:01] <Vexatos> ...
L297[13:09:05] <Vexatos> >what
L298[13:09:09] * Vexatos dies
L299[13:09:54] <CompanionCube> wat
L300[13:10:07] <Ender> wat
L301[13:10:23] <KubuxuNotebook> Proxing irc via OpenCoputers. :p
L302[13:10:23] <Vexatos> why the f
L303[13:10:29] <Vexatos> Why the f*ing f
L304[13:10:35] <Vexatos> Okay
L305[13:10:38] <Vexatos> Here
L306[13:10:48] <Vexatos> I added Waila integration to Computronics
L307[13:10:51] <Vexatos> It wasn't working
L308[13:11:16] <Vexatos> i.e. the coordinates of the TE weren't updating inside the provider so that it only showed Waila information on a single block
L309[13:11:20] <Vexatos> whichever block you placed last
L310[13:11:37] <Vexatos> Now, I tested it using my Digital Detector for Railcraft
L311[13:11:40] <Vexatos> guess what
L312[13:11:46] <Vexatos> that's the _only_ block where it works
L313[13:11:48] <Vexatos> what the hell
L314[13:11:55] <KubuxuNotebook> I messed up with vpn(forgot to copy keys on notebook) so had to think something else.
L315[13:12:07] <KubuxuNotebook> But what is Wila showing?
L316[13:12:17] <KubuxuNotebook> Waila/
L317[13:12:41] <Vexatos> It _should_ show the component address
L318[13:12:47] <Vexatos> like anything else in OpenComputers
L319[13:13:18] <KubuxuNotebook> Oh. ok.
L320[13:15:45] <Vexatos> So. Now the question
L321[13:15:50] <Vexatos> what is the digital driver doing
L322[13:15:54] <Vexatos> than other things are not doing
L323[13:15:58] <Vexatos> that*
L324[13:16:38] <KubuxuNotebook> It is better because it has /digital/ in name?
L325[13:18:11] <KubuxuNotebook> I don't have idea.
L326[13:22:58] <KubuxuNotebook> So what it is doing?
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L329[13:29:04] <skyem123> .p
L330[13:29:43] <Caitlyn> .p
L331[13:29:44] <^v> Ping reply from Caitlyn 0.36s
L332[13:32:49] <Ender> .p
L333[13:32:50] <^v> Ping reply from Ender 0.26s
L334[13:33:08] <skyem123> .p
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L336[13:47:16] <vifi> DeanIsaKitty! \o/
L337[13:47:30] <DeanIsaKitty> a WiFi!
L338[13:48:12] <skyem123> heh
L339[13:48:20] <vifi> ._.
L340[13:48:44] <vifi> I'm not a widi
L341[13:48:46] <vifi> *wifi
L342[13:48:52] <vifi> I'm a vifi~
L343[13:49:00] <skyem123> no
L344[13:49:05] <Ender> ViFi
L345[13:49:09] <skyem123> you are a wifi signal
L346[13:49:19] <vifi> skyem123: stfu
L347[13:49:23] * skyem123 connects latop to vifi
L348[13:49:37] * vifi slaps skyem123
L349[13:49:37] * EnderBot2 laughs
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L354[13:50:43] <skyem123> er
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L359[14:10:05] <gamax92> oh wow ...
L360[14:10:07] <gamax92> wow
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L362[14:10:25] <gamax92> so, my instructor sent me a program with this: http://hastebin.com/keqigadedo.cpp
L363[14:17:48] <KubuxuNotebook> You know descriptive names are very important.
L364[14:21:57] <CompanionCube> yes
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L371[14:29:35] <CompanionCube> vifino: wai?
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L375[14:29:49] <CompanionCube> oh wait
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L394[15:21:18] <Ender> oh noes
L395[15:21:26] <dangranos> hi
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L419[15:28:36] <CompanionCube> hue
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L431[15:54:03] <samis2> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/whatsnew/?v14
L432[15:54:04] <samis2> relevant
L433[15:55:29] <DeanIsaKitty> oh, wow :D
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L442[16:36:23] <Techokami> oh snap, IntelliJ has its own built-in decompiler now?
L443[16:36:36] <Vexatos> wat
L444[16:36:37] <Vexatos> O:
L445[16:36:45] * Vexatos updates
L446[16:37:07] * vifino downgrades Vexatos
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L450[16:43:21] <dangranos> is piracy bad?
L451[16:43:55] <Ender> Only if you get caught
L452[16:43:59] <DeanIsaKitty> ^
L453[16:44:58] <vifino> .addfail <dangranos> is piracy bad? <@Ender> Only if you get caught
L454[16:44:58] <^v> vifino, Fail 105 added
L455[16:45:07] <Ender> How is that a fail?
L456[16:45:08] <dangranos> why its fail?
L457[16:45:15] <Ender> .delfai; 105
L458[16:45:20] <DeanIsaKitty> .delfail 105
L459[16:45:20] <^v> DeanIsaKitty, Deleted fail 105
L460[16:45:20] <Ender> .delfail 105
L461[16:45:20] <^v> Ender, No such fail
L462[16:45:25] <vifino> Ender: It's bad anyway.
L463[16:45:29] <DeanIsaKitty> ninja'd
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L465[16:45:36] <dangranos> we need something like .quote
L466[16:45:50] <Ender> .addfail [16:45] @Ender: .delfai; 105
L467[16:45:50] <^v> Ender, Fail 105 added
L468[16:46:00] <dangranos> lol
L469[16:46:07] <vifino> Getting caught doesn't change anything related to good or bad.
L470[16:46:57] <dangranos> btw, i was asking your opinion about piracy
L471[16:47:16] <vifino> Uhm.... That didn't seem like that..
L472[16:47:55] <dangranos> oh
L473[16:48:18] <Vexatos> That new IntelliJ
L474[16:48:20] <Vexatos> so fanshy
L475[16:48:21] <vifino> That seems like the question if stealing things would be bad.
L476[16:48:28] <Vexatos> Techokami <2
L477[16:48:38] <Techokami> :3
L478[16:48:47] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino, piracy != stealing
L479[16:48:55] <vifino> ¬_¬
L480[16:49:17] <DeanIsaKitty> If someone steals your cat and its still there in the morning, is that bad?
L481[16:49:37] <vifino> Yes, obviously.
L482[16:49:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Why?
L483[16:50:04] <vifino> >:|
L484[16:50:05] <Techokami> because your cat was done stole
L485[16:50:10] <dangranos> DeanIsaKitty, you stealed cat and then returned it in morning?
L486[16:50:29] <dangranos> copying != stealing
L487[16:50:54] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos: No. Piracy is like stealing someones cat but its still there in the morning.
L488[16:51:10] <vifino> Noone should take a cat 3:
L489[16:51:23] <dangranos> *still there.
L490[16:51:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Ok, lets make it a book instead of a cat ¬_¬
L491[16:51:48] <dangranos> because "in the morning" can mean that you returned it back.
L492[16:52:01] <DeanIsaKitty> ...
L493[16:52:22] <Techokami> you still broke into the house to steal the cat
L494[16:52:25] <dangranos> or am very bad in inglish :\
L495[16:52:30] <vifino> Techokami: Exactly.
L496[16:53:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Techokami, but if the book was laying outside, easily reachable for everyone?
L497[16:53:24] <dangranos> or in library
L498[16:54:17] <Ender> http://jeremygohblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/wpid-tumblr_l9z3t8oCbJ1qzl2uzo1_500.jpg
L499[16:55:20] <dangranos> looks like i dont understand "in the morning"
L500[16:55:34] <dangranos> or overthinking
L501[16:55:50] <Caitlyn> "You wouldn't download a car!" You're damn right I would
L502[16:56:10] <Ender> Caitlyn, 3D printers FTW
L503[16:56:14] <Caitlyn> ^
L504[16:56:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Caitlyn: Did you hear about the freak 3D priting a car? :D
L505[16:56:24] <dangranos> hmm, but pirating moneys is illegal
L506[16:57:02] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos: That is not pirating, that would be laundering money.
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L525[17:43:56] <skyem123> .p
L526[17:43:57] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 0.29s
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L528[17:45:23] <skyem123> gah
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L530[17:48:08] <Sangar> o/
L531[17:48:12] <Ender> \o
L532[17:48:43] <vifino> o/
L533[17:48:46] <Ender> Pc why?
L534[17:49:02] <Ender> Loaded it up, went to log in then it BSoD's
L535[17:49:04] <Ender> ¬_¬
L536[17:50:06] <vifino> bsod.exe
L537[17:50:07] <skyem123> heh
L538[17:50:11] <skyem123> heheheheh
L539[17:50:26] <skyem123> I want to overclock my computer
L540[17:50:35] <Ender> Uh, now it's beeping at me :/
L541[17:51:31] <skyem123> Overheating?
L542[17:51:44] <Ender> skyem123 I literally just turned it on
L543[17:51:57] <Ender> Might be one of the ram modules not seated properly
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L545[17:52:06] <Ender> Seeing as I altered that
L546[17:52:12] <skyem123> It hasn't even passed the POST?
L547[17:52:53] <Ender> skyem123, it bsod's on the windows login screen so logically it must fail to post
L548[17:53:44] <skyem123> err... A computer needs to pass the POST before it even reads from the hard drive
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L550[17:55:20] <Ender> What part of BSODs on the WINDOW LOGIN SCREEN do you not understand?
L551[17:55:51] <skyem123> I understand it. Just POST is done before windows starts
L552[17:56:07] <skyem123> It must of passed the POST
L553[17:56:25] <Ender> You know the answer
L554[17:56:38] <skyem123> err
L555[17:56:51] <skyem123> I think we are misunderstanding eachother
L556[17:57:06] <Ender> Clearly
L557[17:58:14] <skyem123> Does you computer get past the "Starting Windows" screen?
L558[17:58:49] <Ender> Yes, it shows the login prompt for a split second before bsod
L559[17:59:15] <skyem123> huh
L560[17:59:22] <CompanionCube> tried safe mode?
L561[17:59:31] <skyem123> Maybe using some bad RAM then *crash*
L562[17:59:47] <Ender> CompanionCube, will try that now
L563[17:59:57] <skyem123> The POST is the "Power On Self Test"
L564[18:00:16] <Ender> Yes, done by the bios
L565[18:00:22] <skyem123> yeah.
L566[18:00:34] <skyem123> So it must of somehow passed the POST
L567[18:01:18] <Ender> safemode didn't help
L568[18:01:25] <skyem123> huh
L569[18:01:34] <skyem123> Tried reseating the RAM?
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L571[18:02:11] <Ender> Doing a quick ram test
L572[18:02:15] <Ender> Oh god
L573[18:02:21] <Ender> The errors just piled up
L574[18:02:55] <skyem123> bad ram?
L575[18:03:03] <Ender> I don't see how
L576[18:03:18] <skyem123> Just reseat the ram
L577[18:03:27] <Ender> Its the ram that was originally in here that was in my dad's pc for a bit before going back in here
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L579[18:04:00] <pong> morning
L580[18:04:08] <pong> i am going to special center today
L581[18:04:09] <pong> o/
L582[18:05:37] <skyem123> \o
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L584[18:07:17] <Ender> Well, doing ram test with one stick in is throwing errors. Gonna try re seating it
L585[18:08:38] <CompanionCube> http://www.thecreep.info/2014/10/google-reveals-it-is-developing.html
L586[18:11:11] <Ender> Ok, that stick is still giving errors even in another slot
L587[18:11:41] <skyem123> CompanionCube, how long till it breaks itself?
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L589[18:12:35] <Ender> Testing other sticks individually now
L590[18:13:37] <Ender> If it is 1 stick then it will be annoying because I have dual Chanel memory, 1 will be full the other will only be half full
L591[18:14:08] <skyem123> meh
L592[18:15:43] <pong> .logo text5,skymem123
L593[18:15:44] <^v> pong, error main.lua:7: Could not open file text5. Does not exist.
L594[18:15:49] <pong> .logo text5.png,skymem123
L595[18:15:50] <^v> pong, http://ptoast.tk/logo/WPUUk.png
L596[18:17:11] <Ender> I wonder if I will be able to get a single stick of the same model/make
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L598[18:19:02] <skyem123> Ender, maybe?
L599[18:20:15] <skyem123> Might be more cost effective to get new+higher capacity ram?
L600[18:21:24] <Ender> These sticks are 4GB each
L601[18:21:44] <skyem123> Get an 8GB one? :p
L602[18:21:58] <Ender> They're ducking expensive
L603[18:22:06] <Ender> Thanks tablet
L604[18:22:14] <skyem123> :D
L605[18:22:45] <Ender> I have planned for getting them in the future
L606[18:23:14] <skyem123> Why not get it sooner if the ram is bad?
L607[18:24:20] <Ender> They're fucking expensive
L608[18:24:29] <Ender> Like 50£
L609[18:24:46] <Ender> I don't have that kind of money to spend on pc hardware right now
L610[18:24:51] <skyem123> Meh, it would probably be cheaper in the long run?
L611[18:26:25] <Ender> It would, if the £50 allowance I get from my mother was for pc stuff but I don't live in a fairy-tale world sadly and that has to be used for food
L612[18:27:09] <skyem123> .-.
L613[18:27:45] <skyem123> How do you get money to spend on your computer?
L614[18:28:10] <Ender> Other odd jobs and birthday/Christmas
L615[18:28:57] <skyem123> You can live with some missing ram until Christmas
L616[18:29:46] <skyem123> I had to do something similar
L617[18:29:48] <Ender> Never said I was gonna do the contrary
L618[18:31:11] * skyem123 pets Ender
L619[18:31:20] <skyem123> Ender, tested the other RAM?
L620[18:31:22] * Ender bites skyem123
L621[18:32:04] * vifino hugs Ender
L622[18:32:58] <Ender> skyem123, tested the other 3 sticks separately then together and they didnt throw up any errors
L623[18:33:08] * Ender ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 12255 MB Total (9758 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 ** Uptime: 0.10 Hours **
L624[18:33:36] * Caitlyn ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate ** CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 12286 MB Total (2668 MB Free) ** VGA: VNC Mirror Driver ** Uptime: 90.62 Hours **
L625[18:33:39] <Caitlyn> :P
L626[18:33:46] <vifino> Host: vifino-MacBookPro|OS: Linux 3.16.0-24-generic/x86_64|Distro: Ubuntu 14.10|CPU: 8 x Intel Core i7-3840QM (1650.468 MHz)|Processes: 402|Uptime: 10h 28m|Users: 2|Load Average: 0.32|Memory Usage: 12428.84MB/15954.86MB (71.63%)|Disk Usage: 90.98GB/125.63GB (72.42%)|Network: Wireless Traffic (wlp2s0): 0.00MB In/0.00MB Out
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L629[18:34:45] <skyem123> phew
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L632[18:39:52] <Pwootage> alright, finished the assignemnt due at end of class 10 mins before end of class
L633[18:39:57] <Pwootage> let's not forget homework from now on >.>
L634[18:40:06] <skyem123> heh
L635[18:40:17] <CompanionCube> >sophos utm home edition
L636[18:40:17] <Pwootage> good thing there's a printer right outside of class
L637[18:40:22] <CompanionCube> >buisness email preferred
L638[18:40:36] <skyem123> heh
L639[18:41:19] <Pwootage> Question: Where is OC API in maven?
L640[18:42:29] <Sangar> Pwootage, you mean https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers#in-your-own-mod ?
L641[18:42:39] <Pwootage> ssssh
L642[18:42:52] <Pwootage> I totally read that in my clone of my repo and did not just ask in IRC
L643[18:43:00] <Sangar> :>
L644[18:43:32] <Vexatos> Sangar: I found out why Waila integration in Computronics was broken
L645[18:43:34] <Vexatos> Well, I did not
L646[18:43:48] <Sangar> ?
L647[18:43:54] <Vexatos> But I could prove that it is indeed an issue with either computronics or AsieLib
L648[18:44:00] <Vexatos> and specifically the Tile entity class
L649[18:44:02] <Pwootage> Sweet, intellij 14 just released
L650[18:44:07] <Vexatos> Pwootage, it is AWESOME
L651[18:44:14] <Vexatos> I _love_ the new IntelliJ
L652[18:44:31] <Sangar> i already requested an upgrade for my oss license :>
L653[18:44:39] <Pwootage> Yeah, I need to download it
L654[18:44:46] <Pwootage> too bad I only have 1 minute untill I'm on slow net
L655[18:44:48] <Pwootage> will have to DL it at work
L656[18:44:50] <Sangar> the lambda evaluation stuff in debug mod will be *awesome*
L657[18:44:55] <Pwootage> wait, what am I talking about, train doesn't leave for an hour
L658[18:44:56] <Sangar> *mdoe
L659[18:44:58] <Sangar> *mode
L660[18:44:58] <Sangar> ffs
L661[18:45:08] <Vexatos> Pwootage, I can download it for you
L662[18:45:17] <Vexatos> Sangar: lambda in debug what
L663[18:45:21] <Pwootage> ....not sure it works that way :P
L664[18:45:32] <Vexatos> Pwootage, then I can send it to you via Email
L665[18:45:35] <Vexatos> This will work
L666[18:45:37] <Vexatos> Trust me
L667[18:45:39] <Vexatos> :<
L668[18:45:44] <Vexatos> Hehehehe
L669[18:45:45] <Sangar> Vexatos, https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/whatsnew/ scroll down to lambda evaluation
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L671[18:46:16] <Vexatos> Unfortunately you cannot configure how the decompiler is formatting the class
L672[18:46:23] <Pwootage> I like the built-in decompiler, too
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L674[18:46:31] <Pwootage> at least it works, even if it's formatted in a default way
L675[18:46:52] <Sangar> yeah, that's gonna be handy for mod integration stuff
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L677[18:47:09] <Vexatos> Sooo
L678[18:47:29] <Pwootage> ok, then, why won't MY maven resolve :(
L679[18:47:33] <Vexatos> anyone bored enough to look into why TileEntityPeripheralBase is the only TE class that's not working with Waila? :P
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L681[18:49:02] <Pwootage> Because I put in the wrong org, that's why
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L683[18:50:53] <Pwootage> ok now it's looking in the wrong place. D:
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L685[19:12:03] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L686[19:12:08] <Vexatos> Sangar, what do you think:
L687[19:12:16] <Vexatos> Computronics adding an EnderIO conduit
L688[19:12:20] <Vexatos> that's basically an OC cable
L689[19:12:50] <Ender> Vexatos, that'd be cool, didnt EnderIO have an ME cable at one point?
L690[19:12:57] <Vexatos> It does again now, IIRC
L691[19:13:01] <Ender> hm
L692[19:13:16] <Vexatos> No it does not
L693[19:13:20] <Vexatos> But it will soon
L694[19:13:28] <Pwootage> ME cable is odd limit thing so it would take some doing
L695[19:13:28] <Vexatos> they're working on it in a seperate branch
L696[19:14:34] <Pwootage> THERE we go, finally downloading deps >..
L697[19:14:50] <Vexatos> Grargh
L698[19:14:56] <Vexatos> why is Waila not working D.<
L699[19:15:18] <Pwootage> I have never added waila integration so I have no idea
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L704[19:32:16] <Sangar> Vexatos, that'd be pretty cool (and has been requested a few times, even :P). i'm not sure if it is possible to "externally" add an eio conduit tho? at least i didnt find an obvious way to do it when i had a look.
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L706[19:36:45] <Pwootage> Ugh, just used 200mb of mobile data because intellij downloaded a maven index in the background
L707[19:37:20] <Pwootage> I hope my family switches to a network with unlimited data so I don't have to worry about stuff like that
L708[19:37:36] <CompanionCube> Pwootage, ouch
L709[19:37:53] <CompanionCube> you intelijing on train?
L710[19:38:15] <Pwootage> No, train has wifi. At station before train gets here.
L711[19:38:59] <Pwootage> Although I don't like to download maven artifacts over not-encrypted wifi since it's not encryptes
L712[19:39:11] <Pwootage> They need to make maven central have https
L713[19:39:15] <Pwootage> Like seriously
L714[19:40:15] <CompanionCube> why nto run a VPN on the insecure wifi
L715[19:41:09] <Pwootage> I only use SSL services on the train
L716[19:41:19] <Pwootage> And too lazy to set up Vpn
L717[19:43:02] <Pwootage> Plus, that wifi is incredibly slow anyway
L718[19:47:52] <Pwootage> Why is it looking at libraries.minecraft.net for sor1k >°>
L719[19:48:16] <Pwootage> It's published locally AND on a different maven server
L720[19:50:16] <Pwootage> Maybe my https cert it doesn't like? That has to be it, will have to try over http
L721[19:55:06] <KubuxuNotebook> Sangar, regarding nbt compressing and encryption. It is against principle of encryption. If you encrypt something you base on fuct that sniffig part do not have a paramaeter of equesion but as we want the it to be fully determistic and same on all servers all secrets would have to be in code and therfore exposed. There is no secure 2-way algorithm without secret part. Only quantum key echange would
L722[19:55:07] <KubuxuNotebook> solve the problem.
L723[19:58:00] <LordFokas> let's not get into Quantum Cryptography.
L724[20:01:07] <Pwootage> What's this about encryping nbt? Why?
L725[20:01:11] <KubuxuNotebook> Why not. You could create matatable that would allow comparin but indexing would corrupt inside data. Then you block changeing metadata and there you have it. Quantum Cryptograpthy in Lua.
L726[20:01:30] <Pwootage> And why does it have to be the same world-to-world?
L727[20:02:07] <KubuxuNotebook> For programs to bo world-to-world comaptible.
L728[20:03:37] <Pwootage> Well then why would you want to encrypt it in the first place
L729[20:03:56] <ShadowKatStudios> :D CPU upgrade worked! C2D E6300 1.86Ghz -> C2D E7400 2.8Ghz
L730[20:04:10] <Pwootage> ShadowKatStudios: \o/
L731[20:04:32] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios, \o/
L732[20:04:36] <Ender> one of my ram sticks died
L733[20:04:52] * CompanionCube bends a pin on ShadowKatStudios's CPU
L734[20:05:39] <Pwootage> FOr the record, updaing that old of a cpu with a slightly newer CPU is still kinda silly
L735[20:05:50] <KubuxuNotebook> So that I wouldn't be able to read through all NBT data in a item. It relly pisses Vexatos.
L736[20:06:32] <Pwootage> ...Then don't allow reading all NBT in an item?
L737[20:06:36] <Pwootage> I'm a little confused
L738[20:06:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Pwootage: It's the best CPU in my house
L739[20:06:54] <Pwootage> ShadowKatStudios: sad
L740[20:07:08] <Pwootage> That's the worst CPU on my person >.>
L741[20:07:22] <Pwootage> (out of three cpus)
L742[20:07:48] <KubuxuNotebook> Pwoteage, Current implementation allows. I might have expressed myself wrongly.
L743[20:07:59] <Pwootage> KubuxuNotebook: gotcha
L744[20:09:46] <Pwootage> Yay, got 100% on project 2 in my assembler/vm class
L745[20:10:20] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, so how are you
L746[20:10:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Very well, CompanionCube
L747[20:11:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Mainly because I have another C2D machine with a dedicated GPU to add to my network :D
L748[20:11:50] <ShadowKatStudios> (Sure, ATI, but I'll use the OSS drivers to avoid downgrading Xorg
L749[20:12:56] <CompanionCube> never downgrade xorg
L750[20:13:13] <Pwootage> s/xorg/anything/
L751[20:13:13] <MichiBot> Pwootage: Yay, got 100% on project 2 in my assembler/vm class
L752[20:13:22] <Pwootage> .....clearly this sed bot is not nearly as smart as the other one
L753[20:13:37] <KubuxuNotebook> Pwootage: http://tinyurl.com/muchmoreNBTfun
L754[20:13:57] <CompanionCube> ShadowKatStudios, if you're ever in need of a decent firewall Sophos offers a free home version of it's UTM product
L755[20:14:44] <Pwootage> I like the ability to read nbt data on items, but it is kinda really good
L756[20:15:04] <KubuxuNotebook> I love it. But some hate.
L757[20:16:41] <Pwootage> Big problem is OC is "blind" I'm pretty sure, can't tell what specific block or item anything is
L758[20:16:59] <Pwootage> maybe put that in a card or block ("Mass Spectrometer"?)
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L760[20:17:23] <KubuxuNotebook> Same was with CC. Always only comaring.
L761[20:17:46] <KubuxuNotebook> comparing. Would be cool.
L762[20:18:47] <KubuxuNotebook> Atleast it would be feature and not hack.
L763[20:19:22] <Pwootage> yeah
L764[20:19:52] <Pwootage> Maybe as an addon if OC doesn't want to add it
L765[20:20:16] <Pwootage> presumably would use a buncha power and take time
L766[20:21:36] <KubuxuNotebook> But Sengar wants it as it is only way to set up export buses with fe. enchantment books or TiC's tools.
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L768[20:24:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway, gotta pack up my laptop for school today
L769[20:24:51] <ShadowKatStudios> o/
L770[20:25:19] <Pwootage> What's the max number of components for one server? 64?
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L772[20:26:07] <KubuxuNotebook> per whole rack?
L773[20:26:20] <Pwootage> Per single rack-mounted server
L774[20:26:30] <Pwootage> i.e. any one computer
L775[20:26:35] <KubuxuNotebook> Is it relly that big?
L776[20:26:37] <KubuxuNotebook> WoW
L777[20:26:51] <Pwootage> with max upgrades? Idk, I will have to check I guess
L778[20:27:19] <Sangar> 16 from t3 cpu, 16 per t3 component bus, so 64 per t3 server, yeah
L779[20:27:50] <Pwootage> k. sor1k supports up to 256 devices, so that works out just fine
L780[20:28:14] <Pwootage> well train ride is over, back soonish(tm)
L781[20:29:29] <Sangar> as for nbt, i also think it's too much information that's just magically - and uncontrollably! - there (which is one of the reasons it's zipped, not a table). but i also want to keep it there in some form because i think it can be really really useful for passing it to component callbacks :/
L782[20:31:13] <KubuxuNotebook> What if you would return empty table with custom == meatamehod which would compare inner nbt string?
L783[20:31:46] <KubuxuNotebook> But then you wouldnt be able to save it
L784[20:31:47] <KubuxuNotebook> :c
L785[20:31:51] <Sangar> exactly
L786[20:32:13] <Sangar> nor send it as a network message and so on
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L788[20:33:37] <KubuxuNotebook> The only possible way to make encryption works would be to set up internet service that would decrypt data. So noone have access to private key.
L789[20:34:10] <KubuxuNotebook> But then what about offlien
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L791[20:34:51] <ShadowKatStudios> http://i.imgur.com/1FiXTF7.jpg
L792[20:35:01] <DeanIsaKitty> KubuxuNotebook, what is your problem exactly?
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L794[20:36:16] <KubuxuNotebook> It isn't my problem. I like idea of NBT being accesible, but balance wise it is bad.
L795[20:36:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Context please?
L796[20:37:17] <Sangar> i'd actually be ok with per-world private keys. sure, it'd require re-configuring programs, but that's kind of a plus with regards to balance, really.
L797[20:37:27] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/649
L798[20:38:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah, ok
L799[20:38:20] <KubuxuNotebook> DeanIsKitty: Here http://gyazo.com/cda086553dbed8607418b59167c096af
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L801[20:38:58] <KubuxuNotebook> Oh. My phone died. ;p
L802[20:39:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Sounds rather random but yeah, I see the issue.
L803[20:43:22] <KubuxuNotebook> If per word is ok then RC4 salted by hash of unique name + metadata would be sufficent.
L804[20:43:42] <DeanIsaKitty> But I have to agree with Sangar here. OC is, like every computer mod, by its basic idea quite powerful. While making It a config option might be a good solution i would still make its default false.
L805[20:44:47] <DeanIsaKitty> You always exchange knowledge (as in knowing lua) and time (as in programming) for having a certain functionality easier than else. This is just a rather extreme example of that.
L806[20:46:37] <DeanIsaKitty> Also Sangar do I understand you correctly that you want to have a way to compare two outputs but don't want people to be able to read them?
L807[20:46:51] <KubuxuNotebook> To interpret.
L808[20:47:26] <DeanIsaKitty> as in?
L809[20:47:55] <KubuxuNotebook> ?
L810[20:48:23] <DeanIsaKitty> How do you mean interpret?
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L812[20:48:33] <DeanIsaKitty> That they make no sense whatsoever?
L813[20:49:15] <KubuxuNotebook> Passing, comparing is ok as long as you do not know taht you have 1400 mana in mana tablet and so on.
L814[20:49:21] <DeanIsaKitty> ...
L815[20:49:30] <DeanIsaKitty> Why tf do you not just hash the values??
L816[20:49:47] <KubuxuNotebook> You need reverse.
L817[20:49:52] <Sangar> ^
L818[20:50:00] <DeanIsaKitty> But then everyone can read them anyway?
L819[20:50:24] <Sangar> if the key is private (and dynamically generated per world), no
L820[20:50:53] <DeanIsaKitty> And for what do you need to reverse it again?
L821[20:51:14] <Sangar> to get an actual "real" itemstack instance when passing it to a component callback
L822[20:51:26] <KubuxuNotebook> To recreate ItemStack for export bus configuration for example.
L823[20:52:16] <Sangar> the export bus is currently the only thing using it, but i believe it can be useful for a lot of other scenarios
L824[20:52:38] <KubuxuNotebook> I would love to see Cell Workbench driver.
L825[20:52:55] <Vexatos> :|
L826[20:53:19] <Vexatos> Why does this discussion start when I'm away
L827[20:53:21] <Vexatos> .-.
L828[20:53:37] <KubuxuNotebook> :p
L829[20:53:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Soo... To clarify: We are talking about the fact that you can, from inside the OC os, access the full NBT-data of a item?
L830[20:53:51] <KubuxuNotebook> Yes
L831[20:53:51] <Vexatos> Yes
L832[20:53:53] <Vexatos> Exactly that
L833[20:54:03] <DeanIsaKitty> Soo does the OS need that?
L834[20:54:05] <Vexatos> There even is a parser library for that on OpenPrograms
L835[20:54:07] <Vexatos> No
L836[20:54:13] <DeanIsaKitty> So, why not hash it?
L837[20:55:07] <Sangar> <KubuxuNotebook> To recreate ItemStack for export bus configuration for example.
L838[20:55:38] <Vexatos> HashMap String-ItemStack
L839[20:55:55] <KubuxuNotebook> Collisons..
L840[20:55:56] <Vexatos> Then the export bus could have the string as a parameter
L841[20:56:01] <Sangar> not a fan of infinitely growing hashmaps
L842[20:56:08] <Vexatos> No collisions
L843[20:56:14] <Vexatos> unique strings, same as component addresses
L844[20:56:32] <Vexatos> And savable to disk, using some serializer
L845[20:56:42] <KubuxuNotebook> <@Sangar> not a fan of infinitely growing hashmaps
L846[20:57:02] <KubuxuNotebook> You can track TE but u can't ItemStacks
L847[20:57:07] <Vexatos> Maybe one-time use strings?
L848[20:57:15] <KubuxuNotebook> Comparing.
L849[20:57:22] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L850[20:57:28] <Vexatos> Comparing, why even comparing?
L851[20:57:29] <Vexatos> :|
L852[20:57:38] <Vexatos> "I guess one option would be to have the adapter have an actual (ghost) inventory and allow specifying an index in that inventory"
L853[20:57:43] <Vexatos> ^ I actually like that
L854[20:58:22] <Vexatos> There are just too many mods the balance of which gets broken with this extremely powerful option
L855[20:58:31] <Sangar> i kind of do, too, but i'm not really sure how to implement that yet :P (iirc the block drivers don't have a reference to their adapter atm)
L856[20:58:56] <Vexatos> 1.4 is not released yet, right?
L857[20:59:02] <Vexatos> So API changes still possible ;)
L858[20:59:15] <Sangar> kind of, but i reaaaaally want to avoid that :P
L859[20:59:21] <CompanionCube> Vexatos, such as
L860[20:59:24] <Vexatos> Sangar, maybe... maaaaaaybe add it as part og Context
L861[20:59:29] <Vexatos> .getAdapter()
L862[20:59:35] <Vexatos> returns null if there is none
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L864[20:59:50] <KubuxuNotebook> Vexatos: But it did't event break one mod. IMHO. I see worst mods all around me.
L865[21:00:06] <Vexatos> Best example: AE2
L866[21:00:16] <Vexatos> You are not ever supposed to read the entire contents of an ME drive
L867[21:00:17] <Sangar> meh. could just use node.neighbors and check for host instanceof internal.Adapter i guess
L868[21:00:24] <Vexatos> Or that, Sangar
L869[21:00:39] <Vexatos> Just some ghost filter slots
L870[21:00:43] <KubuxuNotebook> Nope. Data is completly unreadible as it uses numeric id's that mean nothing.
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L872[21:01:04] <Vexatos> Sangar: I actually like that idea a lot
L873[21:01:14] <Vexatos> Because it allows all the things you want to do with an ItemStack
L874[21:01:24] <Vexatos> while still not allowing reading the entire NBT tag
L875[21:01:41] <Sangar> hmmm. other idea, but that might be overkill... extra card/upgrade/thinger that can be configured with itemstacks and serves as a "database", i.e. you'd pass that components' uuid and index :X
L876[21:02:10] <Vexatos> "Filter Upgrade"
L877[21:02:10] <Sangar> (instead of the itemstack table representation directly)
L878[21:02:10] <Vexatos> ?
L879[21:02:14] <Sangar> hmhm
L880[21:02:20] <Sangar> something like that
L881[21:02:28] <Vexatos> Would not be overkill, imo
L882[21:02:33] <Vexatos> and actually fit into the theme
L883[21:02:39] <Sangar> could be configured either by robot, or by adapter using adjacent inventories or something like that
L884[21:02:43] <KubuxuNotebook> But then we loose comparing and storing it completly.
L885[21:03:04] <Sangar> it'd be stored in the component
L886[21:03:04] <KubuxuNotebook> I mean by network and text
L887[21:03:09] <Sangar> ah
L888[21:03:13] <Vexatos> Sangar: component.filter.setItemStackFromRobotInventoryMagicFunction(filterslot,robotinventoryslot)
L889[21:03:24] <Sangar> well, for network... that's still a problem i guess
L890[21:03:26] <Sangar> however
L891[21:03:32] <Sangar> in this case hashes become feasible again
L892[21:03:38] <Sangar> because we don't need a "magic" backing hashmap
L893[21:03:42] <Vexatos> Yep
L894[21:03:44] <Vexatos> Just a lookup
L895[21:03:47] <Sangar> just two components configured with the same items
L896[21:03:50] <Vexatos> ^
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L899[21:04:07] <Vexatos> Sangar: I actually like that idea
L900[21:04:09] <Ender> false
L901[21:04:09] <Vexatos> I really do
L902[21:04:22] <Sangar> i'll post it in the github issue
L903[21:04:26] <Vexatos> Yea, do that
L904[21:04:59] <Vexatos> It would remove every complaint I have and still allow anything some strange Starchasers want to do :P
L905[21:05:28] <Sangar> ^^
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L907[21:06:33] <Kubuxu> I must disagree. Programs would be totaly not portable event between computers next to each other.
L908[21:06:56] <Vexatos> They would be
L909[21:07:05] <Vexatos> you just need to have the same filter upgrade
L910[21:07:10] <Vexatos> or be connected to the same adapter
L911[21:07:15] <Sangar> simple solution: the new component has a "copy" function to clone its data to another of its type
L912[21:07:18] <Vexatos> Or sangar adds a way to copy
L913[21:07:19] <Vexatos> HAH
L914[21:07:21] <Vexatos> nevermind
L915[21:07:23] <Sangar> :X
L916[21:07:26] <Vexatos> Yea, what sangar sais
L917[21:07:34] <Vexatos> copy the filter from one to the other
L918[21:08:21] <Vexatos> Just... uhm... put one upgrade in crafting grid, slot 0 and any other one placed in the other slots will get the same data, or something similar
L919[21:09:10] <Kubuxu> So maybe make this blackbox able to encrypt the data into string then you can send it via network, text files and so on and it would be totaly unencryptable.
L920[21:09:44] <Sangar> well, the hashes would basically be that encrypted data in this case
L921[21:09:57] <Sangar> and decrypting would just be looking over the list of configured stacks for a match
L922[21:10:30] * DeanIsaKitty gives Sangar a chocolate cookie
L923[21:10:55] <Vexatos> Sangar: That'd also make cracking code redundant
L924[21:10:58] <Kubuxu> With some limit per box. I like it. Finallt magik6k's cluster in basment woudl have something to do.
L925[21:11:09] <Vexatos> See? Everyone is happy now
L926[21:11:12] <Sangar> :D
L927[21:11:13] <Vexatos> Sangar has the best ideas
L928[21:11:15] <Kubuxu> :D
L929[21:11:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Snagar best Snagar
L930[21:11:25] <Vexatos> That's why I wanted a discussion on IRC
L931[21:11:31] <Vexatos> It is just so much faster than github
L932[21:11:31] * Sangar noms cookie now
L933[21:12:05] <Vexatos> Sangar: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/649#issuecomment-61881615
L934[21:12:14] <Sangar> :D
L935[21:12:16] <Vexatos> I need to go sleep now
L936[21:12:20] <Vexatos> Thank you a lot <3
L937[21:12:22] <Sangar> gnight!
L938[21:12:35] <Vexatos> ignite as well
L939[21:12:40] <Vexatos> (Please don't)
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L941[21:13:21] <Kubuxu> Sangar: Tried limit of stored stacks?
L942[21:13:27] <Kubuxu> Tired**
L943[21:13:36] <Sangar> hmmm
L944[21:13:47] <Sangar> maybe, yeah
L945[21:17:59] <Kubuxu> So summing up, bounded cards would emmit same hashes for same NBT.
L946[21:18:22] <Sangar> basically, yes
L947[21:18:40] <Kubuxu> You would have to have card id and hash to set up for example export bus? Or it must be same computer.
L948[21:19:59] <Kubuxu> As always I have forgotten '?' at the end of sentence
L949[21:20:12] <CompanionCube> http://thehackernews.com/2014/10/airhopper-hacking-into-isolated.html
L950[21:20:31] <Sangar> i think the hash would be the component storing the data would have to be in the same network
L951[21:20:42] <Sangar> ...
L952[21:20:44] <Sangar> what the
L953[21:20:52] <Sangar> ignore the first 6 words
L954[21:21:11] <Sangar> the must have still been there from when i started a sentence in response to something else earlier :X
L955[21:21:21] <Kubuxu> ;p
L956[21:23:20] <Kubuxu> CompanionCube: Have you heard about fix to OpenSSL that is adding random operations between encryptions runds as you could steal private key basing on sounds of working computer. Like whips of coils and capacitors.
L957[21:23:27] <CompanionCube> nope
L958[21:24:02] <Kubuxu> It was a big problem as in server rooms people were mouting servers with precise mics in them to spoof others.
L959[21:24:24] <CompanionCube> http://thehackernews.com/2014/10/cve-2014-4877-wget-ftp-symlink-attack.html
L960[21:24:43] <Kubuxu> http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~tromer/acoustic/#paper
L961[21:25:07] <Kubuxu> 4096-bit RSA stolen by 4 hours
L962[21:25:36] <CompanionCube> old for me
L963[21:25:37] <Kubuxu> sorry it was GnuPM
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L965[21:43:38] <ds84182> I am totally going to use that to fucking steal private keys
L966[21:43:46] <ds84182> I wonder if it works on a 3ds
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L978[22:00:21] <ds84182> Well, spectral analysis on my phone can detect my 3ds
L979[22:00:43] <ds84182> I see a small bit of stuff at the bottom of the thinggy, and it goes away when my 3ds is in sleep mode
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L988[22:28:51] <Pwootage> That stealing keys by sound is AWESOME
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L991[22:46:09] <ds84182> I just wanna steal all the keys
L992[22:46:30] <ds84182> the problem is the 3ds uses a hardware aes unit, I dunno if I can actually read shit from that
L993[22:54:30] <Pwootage> that's talking RSA, not AES
L994[22:54:44] <Pwootage> although 3ds has been hacked, you can dump games now
L995[22:54:44] <Pwootage> somehow
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L998[23:03:52] <ds84182> Pwootage, yeah using a special cart that fucking bricks things if it thinks you are using it wrong or some shit
L999[23:04:03] <ds84182> plus you have to stay on menu version 4.0
L1000[23:04:08] <ds84182> which is a fucking no
L1001[23:04:11] <ds84182> anyways
L1002[23:04:17] <ds84182> pokemonxniccage.com
L1003[23:04:23] <ds84182> brn
L1004[23:04:26] <ds84182> bbn
L1005[23:04:29] <ds84182> bebacknever
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L1009[23:23:32] <vifino> o/ dsBBN
L1010[23:23:33] <vifino> er
L1011[23:23:42] <vifino> y dsBBN
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