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L1[00:00:29] <PotatoTrumpet> in other news, One month of OpenComputers has risen to $1.59 per hour
L2[00:00:42] <PotatoTrumpet> s/hour/month
L3[00:00:42] <Kibibyte> <PotatoTrumpet> in other news, One month of OpenComputers has risen to $1.59 per month
L4[00:00:53] <Ender> ?
L5[00:00:58] <gamax92> i don't know
L6[00:01:01] <PotatoTrumpet> Don't ask
L7[00:01:04] <PotatoTrumpet> Made sense in my head
L8[00:01:06] * gamax92 askes
L9[00:01:34] * PotatoTrumpet explains to gamax92 that there is no way for Sangar to make a profit off of OC
L10[00:01:52] <gamax92> whys that
L11[00:02:17] * PotatoTrumpet does not know why, but knows that it just is.
L12[00:02:39] <gamax92> lets see, i started this update 44 minutes ago
L13[00:02:48] <gamax92> no no, i can't math, 38
L14[00:02:59] <PotatoTrumpet> .calc 38-44
L15[00:02:59] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, -6
L16[00:03:08] <PotatoTrumpet> He started it -6 hours ago
L17[00:03:12] <PotatoTrumpet> .sdate
L18[00:03:12] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, Sep 7719, 1993
L19[00:03:21] <PotatoTrumpet> :(
L20[00:03:27] <gamax92> hmm?
L21[00:03:28] <PotatoTrumpet> Such a sad September
L22[00:03:29] <Ender> a.time
L23[00:03:43] <Ender> Tablet!! _-_
L24[00:03:45] <PotatoTrumpet> the eternal september
L25[00:03:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Tablet?!?!
L26[00:03:58] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: yes what about it
L27[00:04:04] <PotatoTrumpet> So sad
L28[00:04:05] <Ender> .time
L29[00:04:06] <EnderBot2> Current OC time: Mon Oct 20 00:04:05 2014
L30[00:04:18] <PotatoTrumpet> Lol
L31[00:04:50] <PotatoTrumpet> Current Potato time: Sun Oct 19 19:04 2014
L32[00:05:32] * Ender instructs EnderBot2 to keep guard
L33[00:05:33] * EnderBot2 complies!
L34[00:05:33] * EnderBot2 keeps guard
L35[00:05:38] <Ender> :p
L36[00:06:01] <Ender> Anyway, sleep time
L37[00:07:28] <PotatoTrumpet> Night Ender
L38[00:07:45] * PotatoTrumpet instructs EnderBot2 to turn off
L39[00:07:54] <PotatoTrumpet> >:)
L40[00:21:18] <PotatoTrumpet> .p
L41[00:21:18] <^v> Ping reply from PotatoTrumpet 0.21s
L42[00:22:37] <TabletCube> PotatoTrumpet: so. Where would you like to move to?
L43[00:23:02] <PotatoTrumpet> IDK
L44[00:23:05] <gamax92> cool so its been an hour of windows updates
L45[00:23:07] <PotatoTrumpet> England
L46[00:23:18] <PotatoTrumpet> #LinuxMasterrace
L47[00:23:28] <TabletCube> Yes
L48[00:23:31] <gamax92> Yes
L49[00:23:38] <PotatoTrumpet> But thats atleast 10+ years in the future
L50[00:23:42] <TabletCube> #archmastermasterrace
L51[00:23:42] <gamax92> No
L52[00:23:54] <PotatoTrumpet> #OCMasterrace
L53[00:25:16] <gamax92> .l 40/1.21
L54[00:25:16] <^v> gamax92, 33.057851239669
L55[00:25:23] <gamax92> cool, for one hour and only 33%
L56[00:27:00] <TabletCube> PotatoTrumpet: beware the tories. They're like our republicans
L57[00:27:24] <PotatoTrumpet> I am a republican
L58[00:27:25] <PotatoTrumpet> well
L59[00:27:32] <PotatoTrumpet> conservative
L60[00:27:44] <PotatoTrumpet> independent conservative
L61[00:31:29] <TabletCube> Ah. The US Republican party has a reputation for being crazy as shit so..
L62[00:31:39] <PotatoTrumpet> Yah
L63[00:31:49] <PotatoTrumpet> "independent"
L64[00:32:12] <PotatoTrumpet> I do not affiliate with gay hating, religious loving, dip shits
L65[00:32:45] <PotatoTrumpet> Hi Ender
L66[00:32:51] <PotatoTrumpet> Bye
L67[00:33:46] * mindstorm8191 takes over #ocmasterrace :p
L68[00:34:40] <PotatoTrumpet> Can Confirm
L69[00:35:32] <PotatoTrumpet> #OCMasterrace is now a thing
L70[00:36:57] <TabletCube> PotatoTrumpet: also beware the filters
L71[00:37:06] <TabletCube> most isps will have some
L72[00:37:19] <TabletCube> Some are even on bzy
L73[00:37:27] <TabletCube> *by default iirc
L74[00:37:30] <PotatoTrumpet> Oh yah
L75[00:37:35] <PotatoTrumpet> arn't there porn filters there?
L76[00:37:40] <PotatoTrumpet> Or something like that
L77[00:37:49] <gamax92> no is not japan
L78[00:37:50] <Ender> Bah, can't sleep
L79[00:37:55] <PotatoTrumpet> Hi Ender
L80[00:38:01] <Ender> Urghh
L81[00:38:05] <PotatoTrumpet> Ender: Cyanide works well
L82[00:38:08] <gamax92> bah bah bash sleek
L83[00:38:18] <PotatoTrumpet> has you any woves
L84[00:38:21] <PotatoTrumpet> eolves
L85[00:38:22] <PotatoTrumpet> fkick
L86[00:38:27] <PotatoTrumpet> -_-
L87[00:38:40] <PotatoTrumpet> has you any wolves
L88[00:38:56] <Ender> You know what also works? A kick up your arse
L89[00:39:14] <TabletCube> PotatoTrumpet: blame Mr. Cameron
L90[00:39:25] <PotatoTrumpet> Ender: STHAP
L91[00:39:27] <TabletCube> *cough*bastard*cough*
L92[00:39:49] <PotatoTrumpet> Isn't Cameron the one who did that piano thing in the 2012 olympics
L93[00:40:00] <PotatoTrumpet> TO chariots of fire
L94[00:40:38] <gamax92> .l 48/1.21
L95[00:40:38] <^v> gamax92, 39.669421487603
L96[00:40:47] <gamax92> so, 1 hour 20 minutes? 40%
L97[00:42:53] <mindstorm8191> ETA = 3 hours
L98[00:43:01] <mindstorm8191> ...wait...
L99[00:43:20] <mindstorm8191> ETA = 3 hours 20 minutes
L100[00:43:45] <gamax92> yup
L101[00:43:45] <PotatoTrumpet> .l 666/616
L102[00:43:45] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, 1.0811688311688
L103[00:43:47] <gamax92> this is great
L104[00:43:51] <PotatoTrumpet> Devils number^^
L105[00:44:03] <gamax92> 355/113
L106[00:44:04] <gamax92> .l 355/113
L107[00:44:05] <^v> gamax92, 3.141592920354
L108[00:44:09] <gamax92> such pi omg
L109[00:44:29] <PotatoTrumpet> .l return "gamax is amazeballs"
L110[00:44:30] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, gamax is amazeballs
L111[00:44:43] <PotatoTrumpet> .l return "you are amazing"
L112[00:44:43] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, you are amazing
L113[00:45:00] <PotatoTrumpet> Why thank you, ^v
L114[00:45:10] <PotatoTrumpet> You are so much nicer that gamax92
L115[00:45:48] <gamax92> ^v: Is PotatoTrumpet nice?
L116[00:45:49] <^v> gamax92, Reply hazy try again
L117[00:45:50] <gamax92> ^v: Is PotatoTrumpet nice?
L118[00:45:50] <^v> gamax92, Concentrate and ask again
L119[00:45:51] <gamax92> ^v: Is PotatoTrumpet nice?
L120[00:45:51] <^v> gamax92, Concentrate and ask again
L121[00:45:52] <gamax92> ^v: Is PotatoTrumpet nice?
L122[00:45:52] <^v> gamax92, Yes definitely
L123[00:46:08] <gamax92> ^v: Is Sangar nice?
L124[00:46:08] <^v> gamax92, You may rely on it
L125[00:46:14] <gamax92> ^v: Is Ender nice?
L126[00:46:14] <^v> gamax92, Outlook not so good
L127[00:46:17] <PotatoTrumpet> lol
L128[00:46:20] <gamax92> Ender != nice
L129[00:46:36] <PotatoTrumpet> Ender == Satan
L130[00:46:51] <Ender> I am not when your spamming a bot
L131[00:47:10] <PotatoTrumpet> He only asked it is ender nice once
L132[00:47:14] ⇦ Quits: phillips1012 (~phillips1@72.42.104.172) (Ping timeout: 186 seconds)
L133[00:47:18] <mindstorm8191> ^v: Is 2^32 < 0?
L134[00:47:18] <^v> mindstorm8191, Most likely
L135[00:47:21] <TabletCube> ^v: Is Hitler Nice
L136[00:47:21] <^v> TabletCube, Cannot predict now
L137[00:47:26] <TabletCube> dang
L138[00:47:29] <PotatoTrumpet> shucks
L139[00:47:38] <Ender> PotatoTrumpet, before that?
L140[00:47:44] <mindstorm8191> ^v: Is 2^33 < -100?
L141[00:47:44] <^v> mindstorm8191, Yes definitely
L142[00:48:03] <PotatoTrumpet> he only asked is s@ngar nice once
L143[00:48:25] <mindstorm8191> ^v: PotatoTrumpet is nice
L144[00:48:25] <^v> mindstorm8191, Signs point to yes
L145[00:48:34] <PotatoTrumpet> good
L146[00:48:44] <mindstorm8191> ^v: Is PotatoTrumpet nice?
L147[00:48:44] <^v> mindstorm8191, Better not tell you now
L148[00:48:49] <PotatoTrumpet> :D
L149[00:48:56] <mindstorm8191> lol... typical 8-ball answer
L150[00:49:06] <PotatoTrumpet> ^v: is it true that mindstorm8191 likes to spam bots?
L151[00:49:07] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, Better not tell you now
L152[00:49:07] <Ender> Bot spam....
L153[00:49:30] <mindstorm8191> ...does anyone know why 2^33 is less than -100?
L154[00:49:41] <gamax92> overflow?
L155[00:49:41] <Pwootage> integer overflow
L156[00:49:50] <PotatoTrumpet> Thats what she said
L157[00:49:53] <TabletCube> .l return 2^33
L158[00:49:54] <^v> TabletCube, 8589934592
L159[00:50:08] <gamax92> wait so
L160[00:50:13] <gamax92> .l 2^31
L161[00:50:13] <^v> gamax92, 2147483648
L162[00:50:20] <mindstorm8191> yes - only because the bot is using 32-bit ints
L163[00:50:33] <Pwootage> 2^33 would be zero, though
L164[00:50:36] <PotatoTrumpet> boooo
L165[00:50:39] <PotatoTrumpet> use 64
L166[00:50:46] <gamax92> .l a = 8589934592 while a >= 2147483648 do a = a - 2147483648 end return a
L167[00:50:46] <^v> gamax92, 0
L168[00:50:51] <gamax92> oh right ...
L169[00:50:52] <gamax92> duh
L170[00:51:07] <TabletCube> .l return ".l return nested lua ftw"
L171[00:51:07] <^v> TabletCube, .l return nested lua ftw
L172[00:51:13] <TabletCube> Dammit
L173[00:51:15] <PotatoTrumpet> .l if nil == nil then return"nil is nil!" end
L174[00:51:15] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, nil is nil!
L175[00:51:51] <TabletCube> .l return paradox == paradox
L176[00:51:51] <^v> TabletCube, true
L177[00:52:00] <gamax92> "What was for breakfast?" "Smoked sausage sliced thin almost burnt wrapped in a green pepper and onion omelet"
L178[00:52:32] *** ds84182 is now known as dsAway
L179[01:00:19] <TabletCube> slerp nao
L180[01:00:27] <gamax92> no slerp
L181[01:00:38] <gamax92> .l slerp == baad
L182[01:00:38] <^v> gamax92, true
L183[01:00:44] <gamax92> slerp are baad
L184[01:03:53] <PotatoTrumpet> so
L185[01:03:59] <PotatoTrumpet> What do you people think of Geany
L186[01:04:00] <gamax92> os
L187[01:04:08] <gamax92> I think she's a nice woman
L188[01:04:31] <PotatoTrumpet> Geany
L189[01:04:33] <PotatoTrumpet> ide
L190[01:06:24] ⇨ Joins: phillips1012 (~phillips1@72.42.104.172)
L191[01:07:45] <gamax92> lolololololol
L192[01:07:47] <gamax92> "alias vi=rm -f; alias vim=rm -rf"
L193[01:08:17] <Caitlyn> oh evil...
L194[01:08:18] <Caitlyn> I like.
L195[01:11:31] ⇨ Joins: zolo (zolo@3.5.148.91.dyn.marticonet.sk)
L196[01:12:29] <zolo> hi all, i have one question: all computercraft programs work on open computers too?
L197[01:13:35] <PotatoTrumpet> no
L198[01:13:44] <gamax92> no they do not.
L199[01:14:02] <PotatoTrumpet> 1: CC uses lua 5.1
L200[01:14:05] <PotatoTrumpet> OC use 5.2
L201[01:14:06] <mindstorm8191> they have similar commands, maybe, but not directly compatible commands. you'll need to rewrite a great portion of them
L202[01:14:07] <gamax92> CC uses Lua5.1 and OC uses Lua5.2, CC uses LuaJ and OC uses actual Lua
L203[01:14:32] <PotatoTrumpet> IE: sleep() become os.sleep()
L204[01:14:44] <PotatoTrumpet> but print() is still print()
L205[01:14:54] <gamax92> well mainly because print is stardard lua
L206[01:14:59] <PotatoTrumpet> i know
L207[01:15:09] <gamax92> zolo: Why do you ask btw?
L208[01:15:19] <PotatoTrumpet> and you have to require non-standard libraries
L209[01:15:32] <Caitlyn> wewt http://puu.sh/ciS8l/2fcc28dad6.jpg
L210[01:15:52] <gamax92> :O is that colored lighting?
L211[01:15:56] <Caitlyn> It is.
L212[01:16:00] <gamax92> such hax
L213[01:16:07] <PotatoTrumpet> So
L214[01:16:18] <zolo> ok thanks :)
L215[01:16:20] <Caitlyn> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/1445251-1-7-10-beta-wip-colored-light-progress-and
L216[01:16:26] <PotatoTrumpet> Your Welcome, zolo
L217[01:16:27] <Caitlyn> I'm adding support to OpenLights
L218[01:16:32] <PotatoTrumpet> :O
L219[01:16:33] <gamax92> Nice
L220[01:16:39] <gamax92> also its cool to see that
L221[01:16:39] <PotatoTrumpet> I WANT IT NOW
L222[01:16:41] <zolo> and some imcompalibities with technical mods?
L223[01:16:53] <gamax92> zolo: depends on what you're talking about?
L224[01:17:08] <zolo> buildcraft, ic2...
L225[01:17:11] <gamax92> OC does have OpenComponent, which can auto magically port CC peripherals to OC
L226[01:17:15] <Caitlyn> PotatoTrumpet, it'll be OC 1.4 only
L227[01:17:26] <PotatoTrumpet> Then get 1.4 out officialy
L228[01:17:27] <gamax92> zolo: not that i recall
L229[01:17:32] <PotatoTrumpet> I demand it
L230[01:17:55] <Ender> Caitlyn, :O WANT
L231[01:18:17] <Caitlyn> Working on it.
L232[01:18:17] <Caitlyn> :p
L233[01:19:23] <PotatoTrumpet> Oh My God
L234[01:19:27] <PotatoTrumpet> Look at those colors
L235[01:19:49] <PotatoTrumpet> My anaconda don't want none unless you got RGB hun
L236[01:21:12] <Kodos> Caitlyn, will you be able to mix a red light and a blue light to get purple light
L237[01:21:27] <Caitlyn> if all goes well, yes.
L238[01:21:46] <Caitlyn> If you can get the light block to be that color, you'll get THAT color light
L239[01:23:23] <gamax92> two hours
L240[01:23:28] <gamax92> .l 57/1.21
L241[01:23:28] <^v> gamax92, 47.107438016529
L242[01:23:32] <gamax92> 47%
L243[01:23:37] <Caitlyn> %calc 57/1.21
L244[01:23:37] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: 47.11
L245[01:23:38] <Caitlyn> :P
L246[01:24:35] <Ender> .time
L247[01:24:35] <EnderBot2> Current OC time: Mon Oct 20 01:24:35 2014
L248[01:24:44] <Ender> i should sleep
L249[01:25:41] *** Techokami|Off is now known as Techokami
L250[01:25:53] *** LordFokas is now known as LordFokas|off
L251[01:26:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Caitlyn: It would be awsome of OC's monitors supported this
L252[01:26:55] <gamax92> http://i.imgur.com/hS6d5Qf.jpg
L253[01:27:09] <Caitlyn> Don't tell me that PotatoTrumpet
L254[01:27:31] <PotatoTrumpet> IE: Set a screen to all red, and red light emits
L255[01:27:50] <PotatoTrumpet> I will tell you what I want
L256[01:28:01] <PotatoTrumpet> Caitlyn: You are awesome
L257[01:30:33] ⇦ Quits: xPucTu4 (yahoo@Pleven.City) ()
L258[01:31:12] <gamax92> You want Caitlyn?
L259[01:31:19] <PotatoTrumpet> Hold on
L260[01:31:25] <PotatoTrumpet> Is Caitlyn a femaleor male
L261[01:31:31] <gamax92> femaleor
L262[01:31:31] <Caitlyn> o_O
L263[01:31:49] <PotatoTrumpet> No
L264[01:32:02] <PotatoTrumpet> Ye
L265[01:32:03] <PotatoTrumpet> s
L266[01:32:30] <PotatoTrumpet> So, you are a femaleor, Caitlyn
L267[01:32:41] * Caitlyn looks down
L268[01:32:44] <Caitlyn> Yes..?
L269[01:33:05] <PotatoTrumpet> Are you sure?
L270[01:33:43] <Caitlyn> I'm sure I am female, yes.
L271[01:33:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Just making sure
L272[01:34:02] <PotatoTrumpet> Don't need another L1zzy incident
L273[01:34:12] <PotatoTrumpet> or skyem
L274[01:34:39] <gamax92> did skyem123 ever say who child she was pregnant with?
L275[01:34:51] <PotatoTrumpet> no
L276[01:34:57] <PotatoTrumpet> I think it was S@ngars
L277[01:35:14] <gamax92> he's not even here you don't have to avade pinging him.
L278[01:35:21] <PotatoTrumpet> Umm
L279[01:35:24] <PotatoTrumpet> He is away
L280[01:35:27] <PotatoTrumpet> not risking it
L281[01:35:34] <gamax92> SANGAR
L282[01:35:37] <PotatoTrumpet> :O
L283[01:35:38] <gamax92> oh shit did i just?
L284[01:35:40] <gamax92> i just did
L285[01:35:45] <PotatoTrumpet> BAN HIM!
L286[01:35:56] <PotatoTrumpet> Quick! zsh ! DO IT
L287[01:36:59] zsh sets mode: +v on skyem123|zzz
L288[01:36:59] zsh sets mode: -v on skyem123|zzz
L289[01:37:08] <gamax92> emm okay
L290[01:42:44] <gamax92> i regret doing updates
L291[01:42:47] <gamax92> they are still going
L292[01:44:00] <gamax92> .l 63/1.21
L293[01:44:00] <^v> gamax92, 52.066115702479
L294[01:44:06] <gamax92> such sloooooooow
L295[01:45:20] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: do you run virtual machines?
L296[01:45:32] <PotatoTrumpet> Hmm?
L297[01:45:36] <PotatoTrumpet> No
L298[01:45:43] <gamax92> I have a virtual windows 7 machine doing updates
L299[01:45:43] <PotatoTrumpet> I run Windows
L300[01:45:49] <PotatoTrumpet> and Linux
L301[01:45:50] <PotatoTrumpet> mint
L302[01:45:52] <PotatoTrumpet> 17
L303[01:45:55] <gamax92> so do I
L304[01:45:59] <PotatoTrumpet> split a 1TB hdd
L305[01:46:03] <gamax92> oh jeez
L306[01:46:12] <gamax92> wait how large is my linux partition :P
L307[01:46:20] ⇨ Joins: Lunatrius` (~Lunatrius@77.38.103.182)
L308[01:46:21] <PotatoTrumpet> Mine is ~500MB
L309[01:46:32] <gamax92> .l 82435760/1024/1024
L310[01:46:32] <^v> gamax92, 78.61686706543
L311[01:46:40] <gamax92> 78.6GB
L312[01:46:47] <PotatoTrumpet> Oh
L313[01:46:53] <PotatoTrumpet> s/MB/GB
L314[01:46:53] <Kibibyte> <PotatoTrumpet> Mine is ~500GB
L315[01:46:58] ⇦ Quits: Lunatrius (~Lunatrius@77.38.103.182) (Ping timeout: 195 seconds)
L316[01:47:04] <PotatoTrumpet> If it was 500MB, i don't know how I would live
L317[01:47:10] <gamax92> yeah i was concerned when you said you installed linux mint on half a gig
L318[01:47:24] *** Lunatrius` is now known as Lunatrius
L319[01:47:31] <PotatoTrumpet> I just used miniOS
L320[01:47:33] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L321[01:47:49] <gamax92> I've actually not used ocemulator
L322[01:47:57] <gamax92> so i cannot say for how slow Altenius claims it is
L323[01:48:43] <PotatoTrumpet> there is OCEMULATOR?
L324[01:48:48] <gamax92> yeah
L325[01:48:51] <gamax92> test it for me will ya
L326[01:48:51] <PotatoTrumpet> :O
L327[01:48:53] <gamax92> i'll get the link
L328[01:48:53] <PotatoTrumpet> nah
L329[01:48:57] <gamax92> well fuck you too
L330[01:48:57] <PotatoTrumpet> hmm
L331[01:49:02] <PotatoTrumpet> do I have to compile it
L332[01:49:07] <PotatoTrumpet> if not, ill test it
L333[01:49:41] <gamax92> err, i don't see any binaries
L334[01:49:45] <PotatoTrumpet> k
L335[01:49:51] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: also you on 64bit or 32bit linux?
L336[01:49:56] <PotatoTrumpet> 65
L337[01:50:14] <PotatoTrumpet> 64
L338[01:50:24] <Caitlyn> 65bit ftw
L339[01:50:27] <PotatoTrumpet> :D
L340[01:50:38] <gamax92> I have no idea why'd you do 65bit
L341[01:50:42] <gamax92> 64bit is quite huge already.
L342[01:50:54] <PotatoTrumpet> 1 bit is where it is at
L343[01:51:01] <gamax92> if you're talking about encryption then yeah i could see that.
L344[01:51:18] <PotatoTrumpet> .p
L345[01:51:19] <^v> Ping reply from PotatoTrumpet 0.67s
L346[01:51:26] <gamax92> err no i don't mean 65 bit encryption i mean larger than 64bit encryption
L347[01:51:30] <gamax92> that'd be just plain silly
L348[01:51:47] <Kodos> Any of you lot play Archeage
L349[01:51:53] <PotatoTrumpet> Archeage?
L350[01:51:56] <gamax92> #g Archeage
L351[01:51:57] -Kibibyte- gamax92: 1270000 results total; First: ArcheAge | The ultimate fantasy sandbox MMORPG from Trion and ... | http://www.trionworlds.com/archeage/en/
L352[01:52:03] <gamax92> no i most definetly do not
L353[01:52:13] <PotatoTrumpet> Never heard of it until now
L354[01:53:02] <PotatoTrumpet> gamax92: link?
L355[01:53:09] <gamax92> oh right sorry
L356[01:53:16] <gamax92> https://github.com/vifino/OCEmulator/
L357[01:56:42] <PotatoTrumpet> urmrgurd
L358[01:56:49] <PotatoTrumpet> 53 min to download factorio
L359[01:57:40] <PotatoTrumpet> oh my god
L360[01:57:52] <PotatoTrumpet> "perfect bacon bowl"
L361[01:57:59] <PotatoTrumpet> you have to be fucking kidding me
L362[01:58:07] <PotatoTrumpet> its a bowl, made out of bacon
L363[01:59:07] <PotatoTrumpet> http://youtu.be/Ds_UpdnvrBo
L364[01:59:07] -Kibibyte- [PotatoTrumpet] Perfect Bacon Bowl is Back! 1 Minute Video | by perfectbaconbowl | 1m1s | 2w4d ago | 62,561 views | Rated: 4.58/5.00
L365[02:06:39] *** Logan is now known as Logan|zzz
L366[02:07:17] <PotatoTrumpet> so
L367[02:07:23] <PotatoTrumpet> hows everyones night going
L368[02:07:48] <PotatoTrumpet> .l 5^4
L369[02:07:48] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, 625
L370[02:08:10] <PotatoTrumpet> .l 5^2
L371[02:08:10] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, 25
L372[02:08:20] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: updates
L373[02:08:30] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L374[02:08:33] <gamax92> .l 70/1.21
L375[02:08:33] <^v> gamax92, 57.851239669421
L376[02:08:48] <PotatoTrumpet> .l gamax = "92"
L377[02:08:48] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, nil
L378[02:08:50] *** Logan|zzz is now known as Logan
L379[02:08:59] <PotatoTrumpet> .l return(gamax)
L380[02:09:00] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, nil
L381[02:09:01] <PotatoTrumpet> iuf
L382[02:12:05] <PotatoTrumpet> still don't get how to make a program write to a file
L383[02:15:37] <PotatoTrumpet> I think I found enders youtube account: http://www.youtube.com/user/thatjgr33n
L384[02:16:34] <PotatoTrumpet> And that is not the voice I put with Josh
L385[02:18:33] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: that's his voice
L386[02:18:50] <PotatoTrumpet> I put his voice more like this:
L387[02:19:19] <PotatoTrumpet> http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
L388[02:19:19] -Kibibyte- [PotatoTrumpet] Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up | by rickastleyvevo | 3m33s | 260w0d ago | 91,979,970 views | Rated: 4.76/5.00
L389[02:19:24] <PotatoTrumpet> fuck you kibibyte
L390[02:19:26] <PotatoTrumpet> fuck you
L391[02:19:32] <gamax92> gee i wonder what that could be
L392[02:19:35] <gamax92> allow me to click on it
L393[02:19:45] <mrkirby153> <*rickroll> <PotatoTrumpet:#oc> http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ Thank you ZNC
L394[02:19:45] -Kibibyte- [mrkirby153] Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up | by rickastleyvevo | 3m33s | 260w0d ago | 91,979,971 views | Rated: 4.76/5.00
L395[02:19:57] <PotatoTrumpet> Hmm
L396[02:20:05] <PotatoTrumpet> I wonder what that could be
L397[02:20:55] <PotatoTrumpet> Kilobyte: Fuck your bot
L398[02:22:09] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFr_uznus4
L399[02:22:09] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] Gradius Music Collection - Challenger 1985 | by fel1230 | 11m24s | 155w4d ago | 33,764 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
L400[02:22:52] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?a&v=3DFr_uznus4
L401[02:22:53] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] Gradius Music Collection - Challenger 1985 | by fel1230 | 11m24s | 155w4d ago | 33,764 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
L402[02:22:54] <gamax92> hmm
L403[02:23:12] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch/3DFr_uznus4
L404[02:23:15] <gamax92> there we go
L405[02:23:22] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: verify that works fro you?
L406[02:23:59] <Caitlyn> http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%2F3DFr_uznus4?alt=jsonc&v=2
L407[02:24:00] <Caitlyn> o_O
L408[02:24:04] <PotatoTrumpet> verification confirmed
L409[02:24:05] <Caitlyn> uwot ytapi
L410[02:24:32] <Caitlyn> http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/3DFr_uznus4?alt=jsonc&v=2
L411[02:24:41] <Caitlyn> ahh it's not stripping, dum michibot.
L412[02:25:25] <gamax92> .l 76/1.21
L413[02:25:25] <^v> gamax92, 62.809917355372
L414[02:25:48] <PotatoTrumpet> .l 67/12.1
L415[02:25:49] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, 5.5371900826446
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L418[02:29:17] <gamax92> Caitlyn: oh wow, i wish i knew about that api thingy
L419[02:29:22] <gamax92> i've been parsing the actual page
L420[02:29:37] <Caitlyn> lol
L421[02:30:02] <Caitlyn> my pattern is missing the /watch/id format...
L422[02:30:10] <Caitlyn> and I don't feel like regexing tonight
L423[02:30:11] <Caitlyn> so meh
L424[02:30:29] <gamax92> if not regexing then what?
L425[02:30:53] <Caitlyn> bashing my head against this colored light API
L426[02:35:09] <gamax92> when did i start this update? ... like 3 hours ago
L427[02:35:19] <gamax92> 3 hours 13 minutes
L428[02:35:44] <gamax92> mindstorm8191: sadly your prediction seems wrong.
L429[02:35:53] <gamax92> and not for the better
L430[02:38:07] <PotatoTrumpet> lol
L431[02:38:11] <gamax92> XD the oetf page
L432[02:38:16] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: https://oetf.cil.li/?r=submits/list;sort=alphabet
L433[02:38:18] <gamax92> dat error
L434[02:38:29] <PotatoTrumpet> I can tell what version of my base was in the latest video from ender
L435[02:38:34] <PotatoTrumpet> It was 2 version ago
L436[02:38:36] <PotatoTrumpet> i think
L437[02:38:37] <PotatoTrumpet> no 3
L438[02:38:43] <gamax92> dat confidence
L439[02:38:44] <PotatoTrumpet> because it had my jungle roof
L440[02:39:28] <PotatoTrumpet> and after that I had my small base
L441[02:39:37] <PotatoTrumpet> then my orange red and yellow one
L442[02:39:42] <PotatoTrumpet> then my current one
L443[02:39:53] <PotatoTrumpet> which matches DeanIsaKitty's base
L444[02:40:02] <PotatoTrumpet> I think thats his base
L445[02:40:11] <gamax92> i haven't minecrafted in a while
L446[02:40:19] <PotatoTrumpet> out
L447[02:40:20] <PotatoTrumpet> now
L448[02:40:23] <gamax92> what?
L449[02:40:24] * PotatoTrumpet opens door
L450[02:40:31] <PotatoTrumpet> OUT
L451[02:40:32] <gamax92> oh shut up
L452[02:40:32] <PotatoTrumpet> NOW
L453[02:40:34] <gamax92> /ignore
L454[02:40:38] <PotatoTrumpet> :O
L455[02:40:42] <PotatoTrumpet> truly hitler
L456[02:40:47] <gamax92> /hitler
L457[02:41:04] <PotatoTrumpet> is there a command to calculate deca hitlers?
L458[02:41:10] <gamax92> .calc
L459[02:41:10] <^v> gamax92,
L460[02:41:26] <PotatoTrumpet> .calc y=12x+1
L461[02:41:26] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, sbox.tmp 1: syntax error
L462[02:41:34] <PotatoTrumpet> MAKE A GRAPHING CALCULATOR
L463[02:41:40] <gamax92> .-. over text
L464[02:41:40] <gamax92> jk
L465[02:41:46] <gamax92> s/j//
L466[02:41:46] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> k
L467[02:41:50] <PotatoTrumpet> +/
L468[02:41:55] <gamax92> ufail
L469[02:42:00] <PotatoTrumpet> You get 3 choices
L470[02:42:01] <PotatoTrumpet> 4
L471[02:42:10] <PotatoTrumpet> \|/-
L472[02:42:11] <gamax92> .newvote 4,death
L473[02:42:11] <^v> gamax92, You must be voiced to make a new vote
L474[02:42:16] <gamax92> well then
L475[02:42:23] <PotatoTrumpet> .newvote sex, sex2
L476[02:42:23] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, You must be voiced to make a new vote
L477[02:42:24] <gamax92> Caitlyn: we can has vote?
L478[02:42:28] <gamax92> you are voice
L479[02:42:37] <PotatoTrumpet> Yah
L480[02:42:39] <PotatoTrumpet> we want this vote
L481[02:42:48] * PotatoTrumpet gets pitchfork for him and gaymax
L482[02:42:51] <Caitlyn> and the vote is?
L483[02:42:55] <gamax92> Generic Gender A,Generic Gender B
L484[02:43:04] <PotatoTrumpet> ^
L485[02:43:05] <Caitlyn> -_-
L486[02:43:14] <Caitlyn> ...
L487[02:43:17] <Caitlyn> .vote Generic Gender A,Generic Gender B
L488[02:43:17] <^v> Caitlyn, No vote started, use .newvote
L489[02:43:21] <PotatoTrumpet> lol
L490[02:43:22] <PotatoTrumpet> fail
L491[02:43:23] <Caitlyn> .newvote Generic Gender A,Generic Gender B
L492[02:43:23] <^v> Caitlyn, Vote started! end with .endvote
L493[02:43:28] <gamax92> .endvote
L494[02:43:28] <^v> gamax92, You must be voiced to end a vote
L495[02:43:31] <PotatoTrumpet> .vote Generic Gender A
L496[02:43:31] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, Voted
L497[02:43:32] <gamax92> well then
L498[02:43:35] <gamax92> .vote Generic Gender A
L499[02:43:36] <^v> gamax92, Voted
L500[02:43:50] <Caitlyn> .endvote
L501[02:43:50] <^v> Caitlyn, Vote results: generic gender a: 2 generic gender b: 0
L502[02:43:55] <Caitlyn> There.
L503[02:43:55] <Caitlyn> done.
L504[02:43:57] <gamax92> oh, it lower cases them
L505[02:43:59] <gamax92> why ...
L506[02:44:00] <PotatoTrumpet> :D
L507[02:44:07] <PotatoTrumpet> -_-
L508[02:44:13] <Caitlyn> happy Birthmas
L509[02:44:21] <PotatoTrumpet> what about hl3
L510[02:44:28] <gamax92> gaben is prego
L511[02:44:53] <PotatoTrumpet> I perfer regu
L512[02:44:59] <gamax92> ragu?
L513[02:45:06] <PotatoTrumpet> yes
L514[02:45:14] <PotatoTrumpet> s/ragu/toaster
L515[02:45:15] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> toaster?
L516[02:45:17] <gamax92> http://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/money-2.jpg?w=580&h=385
L517[02:45:20] <gamax92> look at all that money
L518[02:45:22] <gamax92> you have 0 of it
L519[02:45:51] <PotatoTrumpet> worth about $0.0000000
L520[02:45:51] <Caitlyn> So, looks like Colored light support MIGHT not be possible..
L521[02:46:01] <PotatoTrumpet> YOU SUCK
L522[02:46:03] <PotatoTrumpet> FUCK YOU
L523[02:46:09] <gamax92> wait so what does that screenshot you posted represent then?
L524[02:46:12] <Caitlyn> ,,,
L525[02:46:13] ⇦ Parts: PotatoTrumpet (~PotatoTru@WL4-34.1scom.net) (FUCK Caitlyn))
L526[02:46:24] <Caitlyn> Colored Light support.. :P
L527[02:46:44] <Caitlyn> BUT.. the issue is this:
L528[02:46:44] <gamax92> Conflicting Replies, Discontinuing Investigation
L529[02:46:44] <Caitlyn> [21:45:17] [Client thread/WARN] [FML]: One of the color value should be equal to Current Light Brightness, but not exceed it
L530[02:46:44] <Caitlyn> [21:45:17] [Client thread/WARN] [FML]: r: 15 g: 3 b: 15 l: 12
L531[02:47:01] <gamax92> so, why not scale r,g,b by l
L532[02:47:16] <Caitlyn> Because then you don
L533[02:47:23] <Caitlyn> 't get the color you set...?
L534[02:47:53] <gamax92> Caitlyn: you'd get a kinda dimmer version of the color, but that makes sense when you think about it.
L535[02:48:00] <gamax92> low brightness = dim color
L536[02:48:53] <gamax92> oh damn potato quit irc as well
L537[02:49:02] <Caitlyn> Meh.
L538[02:49:19] <Caitlyn> So.. how should I do that then.. :/
L539[02:49:23] <gamax92> Caitlyn: https://changehere.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/img_0159.jpg
L540[02:49:45] <Caitlyn> Oh gods a right to left loading jpg
L541[02:50:02] <gamax92> oh wow, i just realized it did actually do that.
L542[02:50:46] <v^> heheheh
L543[02:50:52] <v^> me and my high speed internet
L544[02:50:55] <v^> diddnt even notice
L545[02:50:59] <gamax92> v^: how fast is it
L546[02:51:11] <gamax92> Caitlyn: X*l/max
L547[02:51:12] <v^> half a second tops
L548[02:51:20] <gamax92> v^: i meant your internet speed
L549[02:51:25] <v^> 32Mbps
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L551[02:51:30] <gamax92> mine is faster
L552[02:51:47] <Caitlyn> so like r*1/16?
L553[02:52:00] <gamax92> i thought max was 15
L554[02:52:01] <v^> gamax92, whats your ping to changehere.files.wordpress.com
L555[02:52:22] <gamax92> .l 15*12/15
L556[02:52:22] <^v> gamax92, 12
L557[02:52:46] <gamax92> v^ 36ms
L558[02:52:53] <v^> ahahahahaha
L559[02:52:57] <v^> 27ms
L560[02:52:59] <v^> :<
L561[02:53:03] <gamax92> and?
L562[02:53:19] <gamax92> im still pretty sure 57Mbps > 32Mbps
L563[02:53:21] <v^> its only 9ms faster
L564[02:55:09] <gamax92> .l 83/1.21
L565[02:55:09] <^v> gamax92, 68.595041322314
L566[02:56:06] <Caitlyn> Meh I'll work on it more later, gotta goto the store.
L567[02:56:13] <Caitlyn> Being an adult sucks. :P
L568[02:57:49] <gamax92> man if only windows update wasn't such a piece of crap
L569[03:05:19] <gamax92> wait what, vbox only gave windows 512MB's of ram
L570[03:05:24] <gamax92> no wonder this is so slow
L571[03:05:57] <gamax92> it is literally constantly swapping from page
L572[03:11:19] <gamax92> i need to try to give it more ram.
L573[03:11:31] <v^> "literally constantly"
L574[03:11:34] <v^> woah there satan
L575[03:12:16] <gamax92> what
L576[03:12:40] * gamax92 slaps v^
L577[03:12:40] * EnderBot2 laughs
L578[03:12:47] * gamax92 slaps EnderBot2
L579[03:12:47] * EnderBot2 feeds gamax92 to the lions
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L586[03:48:23] <gamax92> .l 92/1.21
L587[03:48:23] <^v> gamax92, 76.03305785124
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L595[04:29:20] <Pwootage> Flatline was a good dr who episode :3
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L597[04:35:46] <gamax92> "My son is very good at computers, does things even I don't understand" "So why are you calling us if your son is so good?" "Oh, thanks I'll just go ask my son" Client hangs up.
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L599[04:38:36] <v^> gamax92, ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
L600[04:38:45] <v^> i dont wana be tech support >_>
L601[04:38:53] <gamax92> yeah no it aint fun
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L603[04:39:28] <v^> when people think you are faking being good at computers because you cant hack their facebook
L604[04:40:14] <gamax92> v^: I remember doing it for 2 days at a repair store, and had to deal with someone who though putting multiple discs in their drive would increase burn speed.
L605[04:40:48] <gamax92> not to mention the discs wern't even burnable discs
L606[04:40:49] <Caitlyn> K, so... http://puu.sh/cj3Rx/346ccf3b61.jpg
L607[04:41:03] <gamax92> Caitlyn: IS SO PRETTY
L608[04:41:06] <gamax92> I LIKE
L609[04:41:52] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/cj3Vd/26dfecc3d3.jpg
L610[04:41:53] <gamax92> ooh what if holograms supported that colored light api.
L611[04:42:10] <Caitlyn> Now if only I could make it set the block color AND the light color AND the light level all at the same time.
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L613[04:42:49] <gamax92> >Bacon has quit
L614[04:42:55] <v^> too bad i dont play MC anymore
L615[04:43:03] <gamax92> v^: yes you do ;)
L616[04:43:08] <v^> i dont
L617[04:43:11] <gamax92> yes you do
L618[04:43:15] <v^> havent played in months atleast
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L620[04:43:29] <gamax92> v^: remember those time you had ftp servers?
L621[04:43:39] <v^> that was awhile ago
L622[04:43:41] <gamax92> i snuck a low priority mc server from a security bug
L623[04:43:56] <gamax92> WINDOWS NO
L624[04:43:56] <gamax92> NO
L625[04:44:04] <gamax92> Y U BSOD DURING UPDATES
L626[04:44:08] <gamax92> GOD DAMMIT
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L629[04:44:36] <v^> gamax92, exept i dont see one
L630[04:45:07] <v^> idk, i trust you people too much
L631[04:45:28] <v^> vifi has my password
L632[04:45:43] <v^> and yes, that means root
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L639[04:51:15] <Caitlyn> ugh ok this is gonna drive me nuts..
L640[04:52:22] <Caitlyn> One of the color value should be equal to Current Light Brightness, but not exceed it Go. Die. In. A. Fire.
L641[04:54:42] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/cj4xN/770fa28886.jpg K so theres the block and light color..
L642[04:54:59] <v^> k
L643[05:03:00] <Caitlyn> Meh night..
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L649[05:13:26] <v^> sleep
L650[05:13:29] <v^> o./
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L681[08:07:55] <Kodos> Since when can we dye keyboards
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L696[09:57:01] <ShadowKatStudios> \o/ Evening
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L698[10:01:35] <ShadowKatStudios> o/
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L702[10:35:50] <Ender> morning
L703[10:37:19] <ShadowKatStudios> \o
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L714[11:44:34] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios! \o/
L715[11:46:28] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios, do you want me to PM you my current SYSINFO?
L716[11:46:29] <vifino> v^: I didn't tell that password to anyone.
L717[11:46:49] <vifino> Nor do I have any plans to do so.
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L719[11:48:40] <vifino> I wonder if i even have it anymore...
L720[12:04:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Ender: Was just wondering about uptime
L721[12:04:43] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios, ah, my pc hasnt been on that long. lemme check tablet
L722[12:05:26] <Ender> tablet uptime is 2d 19h 52m
L723[12:05:36] <Ender> it was at 20days but windows update
L724[12:05:43] <ShadowKatStudios> lol
L725[12:06:05] <ShadowKatStudios> arch updates while running ftw
L726[12:06:34] <Ender> VPS uptime: 93d 3h 16m
L727[12:06:41] <ShadowKatStudios> It's odd, due to my server lacking networking, it's current uptime is 0
L728[12:06:46] <Ender> lol
L729[12:06:57] <ShadowKatStudios> o.o That's like 3 months
L730[12:07:38] <Ender> yep, it was at 100 days before i moved it to the london datacenter
L731[12:08:24] <ShadowKatStudios> I had my server reboot every 24 hours because real hardware
L732[12:08:26] <Ender> also accidentally started using VIM
L733[12:08:52] <ShadowKatStudios> :q!
L734[12:09:09] <ShadowKatStudios> That's to exit it, I believe
L735[12:09:19] <ShadowKatStudios> works in vi, anyway
L736[12:09:41] <Ender> :qa
L737[12:09:51] <Ender> or :quit
L738[12:11:08] <Ender> also i need to head to college
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L740[12:21:46] <Vexatos> o/
L741[12:21:55] <ShadowKatStudios> \o
L742[12:22:05] <Vexatos> At school right now
L743[12:22:16] <Vexatos> Having survived a 4-hour chem exam
L744[12:22:29] <Vexatos> And sitting in front of the second worst PC ever :P
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L757[13:12:38] <Ender> o/
L758[13:12:57] <ShadowKatStudios> \o
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L761[13:14:21] <Ender> grr, koding cant connect to it's backend using the college pcs
L762[13:15:43] <Wobbo> Ender: The windows machines at the RUG don't have Dropbox, while the Ubuntu ones do ¬_¬ You would expect that Universities would have there act together, but appereantly not
L763[13:16:15] <Ender> Wobbo: lol
L764[13:16:59] <Wobbo> Ender: The Linux systems are also only 3 years old, before that CS/AI had its own linux systems which also had dropbox, while the old windows system didn't :P
L765[13:17:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Why dropbox?
L766[13:17:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Why not NFS or FTPFS?
L767[13:18:16] <Ender> lol, koding doesnt even work in IE
L768[13:19:07] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Cause almost everybody uses Dropbox and has it on its home PCs
L769[13:19:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Mortals. ftpfs ftw
L770[13:19:37] <ShadowKatStudios> I use dropbox too :P
L771[13:20:33] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: I can use sftp(if my mac mini is on) but a lot of my fellow students don't even properly know their way around a cli shell >.> Its a shame, really
L772[13:20:57] <ShadowKatStudios> sftp is slow
L773[13:20:59] <ShadowKatStudios> unless -c
L774[13:21:16] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Better secure and slow than fast and unsave
L775[13:21:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I don't transfer anything interesting and have a separate FTP user that gets a different password every 24 hours so \o/
L776[13:21:50] <Wobbo> Ender: With what version of forge did the 1.4 beta work?
L777[13:22:11] <Ender> Wobbo: it runs fine on 1208
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L779[13:22:59] <Wobbo> Ender: then I will test 1230 :P
L780[13:23:29] <Ender> Wobbo: it may work on that, i'm stuck with 1208 because of FMP
L781[13:23:50] <Wobbo> We will see :P
L782[13:24:01] <Wobbo> Hoping to get rc doen for the real 1.4
L783[13:24:23] <Ender> ?
L784[13:24:39] <Wobbo> Ender: /etc/rc.d for daemons
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L786[13:24:47] <Ender> ahh
L787[13:25:32] <Wobbo> Ender: It'll be based on FreeBSDs rc.d
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L789[13:29:11] <ShadowKatStudios> *opens youtube* *fan starts running full-tilt* wtf google, fix eet
L790[13:29:53] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Just wait until I have played MC for a while, even you might be able to hear the fan :P
L791[13:30:31] <ShadowKatStudios> I just turn my music up, it's like the fan isn't going to kill itself.
L792[13:34:34] <Wobbo> Ender, ShadowKatStudios does one of you know if the boot text is saved somewhere?
L793[13:34:41] <Ender> ?
L794[13:35:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Edit init.lua to make a log.
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L797[13:37:25] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: seems like the only possibility yes
L798[13:39:09] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: No fs or IO libs before we fiish booting >.>
L799[13:39:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Uh, I'd link you to micrOS, but my server is dead
L800[13:39:37] <ShadowKatStudios> I have low-level logging functions
L801[13:40:41] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: I could try to find what the fs address is and use the fs component, but meh that
L802[13:42:52] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios, Ender: What do you think, two config files for loading user daemons or only one? One seems enough
L803[13:43:08] * Ender shrugs
L804[13:43:25] <ShadowKatStudios> It won't affect me- I roll my own OS.
L805[13:43:30] <Ender> currently trying to set up a proxy on my vps that i can use to get around college block
L806[13:44:06] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: You could steal it :P
L807[13:44:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Nah, the OS architecture differences are too great.
L808[13:45:06] <ShadowKatStudios> I've tried adapting OpenOS code, it ended up a nonfunctional mess that doubled the RAM usage of the OS.
L809[13:46:30] * Ender wonders if he has a portable version of FF on his usb
L810[13:46:48] <ShadowKatStudios> :( I can't decide between my nightcore playlist and FTL
L811[13:49:18] <Ender> hm, well i found a FF instance in one of my App Archives, extracting
L812[13:54:34] <Ender> ok, webbrowser from usb is slow
L813[13:55:46] <Wobbo> God, now I want to be able to type local start = runCommand('start') and have currying do my job >.<
L814[13:57:19] <ShadowKatStudios> my eyes
L815[13:57:23] <ShadowKatStudios> I just opened a PDF
L816[13:57:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Now I have my whole system using a dark theme
L817[13:57:39] <Ender> lol
L818[13:57:41] <ShadowKatStudios> I even have a dark theme for stylish
L819[13:57:47] <ShadowKatStudios> This PDF was white background
L820[13:57:56] <Wobbo> XD
L821[13:57:59] <ShadowKatStudios> I just broked my optic nerve.
L822[13:58:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I can only type because I know the keyboard by touch.
L823[13:58:15] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios: i do that quite a lot
L824[13:58:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Vision recovering...
L825[13:58:58] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Over the years, the neurons used for vision will be replaced by neurons for other tasks, so don't worry, you will be able to become better in other things thanks to your loss of vison!
L826[13:59:06] <Wobbo> Oh, it is recovering
L827[13:59:27] <ShadowKatStudios> So I could get better at lisp at the expense of my vision?
L828[13:59:34] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L829[14:00:04] <ShadowKatStudios> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaaz38Tfn2U
L830[14:00:04] -Kibibyte- [ShadowKatStudios] S3RL feat Yurino-Be My Game Boy | by kobart1101 | 3m33s | 70w2d ago | 758,814 views | Rated: 4.92/5.00
L831[14:00:06] <Wobbo> Your optic nerve is probably intact, your retina just got overly active.
L832[14:00:22] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: In theory, but conding without vision is probably very hard
L833[14:00:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Once we get neural interfaces it will be fine.
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L841[14:13:27] <ShadowKatStudios> DeanIsaKitty! \o/
L842[14:13:40] <ShadowKatStudios> I need help deciding something.
L843[14:13:51] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios! \o/
L844[14:14:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm going to play FTL. Do I want to listen to my nightcore playlist or the FTL music?
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L847[14:14:57] <vifino> Silently ignored, ohwell...
L848[14:15:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Lol, *insert comments about "this song is about people dying"* "Actually, it's about the writer's wallet"
L849[14:15:32] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino: I'm needing a decision, your opinion?
L850[14:15:53] <vifino> Nah, i don't have one.
L851[14:16:42] <DeanIsaKitty> ShadowKatStudios! \o/+
L852[14:16:42] <ShadowKatStudios> nou, s3rl, why is mtc2 a thing now? bad s3rl
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L854[14:18:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Why does Skype ignore my window manager theme? I just opened a skype window and damaged my retina again
L855[14:18:11] <ShadowKatStudios> owait
L856[14:18:17] <ShadowKatStudios> skype = micro$loth
L857[14:18:21] <ShadowKatStudios> makes sense
L858[14:18:52] <vifino> mpd keeps dying on me ._,
L859[14:18:55] <vifino> *._.
L860[14:18:59] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Skype hacked the world and hates you
L861[14:19:09] <Wobbo> In other news, I can now start daemons :D
L862[14:19:18] <ShadowKatStudios> grats
L863[14:19:37] <vifino> mpd, pls
L864[14:19:39] * ShadowKatStudios considers finishing the micrOS networking code, but instead returns to lisp
L865[14:19:41] <vifino> play my midis
L866[14:19:45] <vifino> or i will kill you
L867[14:19:46] <ShadowKatStudios> NO! I want to play FTL!
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L869[14:19:53] <ShadowKatStudios> >.< I'm getting distracted
L870[14:19:58] <ShadowKatStudios> \o
L871[14:20:08] <Qanthelas> hello everyone o/ first time in channel
L872[14:20:18] <Ender> \p
L873[14:20:24] <Ender> fak
L874[14:20:27] <Ender> \o
L875[14:20:29] <Ender> There]
L876[14:20:33] <Qanthelas> I've been checking out the MightyPirates 1.3 video series for OpenComputers and I love it! wanted to come by and say Hi
L877[14:20:35] <vifino> Ender: U R DOOIN IT RONG!
L878[14:20:35] <Ender> ¬_¬
L879[14:20:38] <vifino> :3
L880[14:20:40] <Qanthelas> :P
L881[14:21:14] <Ender> vifino, you say that as if it's a rare occurrence
L882[14:21:23] <vifino> ;D
L883[14:21:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Qanthelas: A fan of OpenComputers? That's a relief, usually we end up having to convince people that OC is worth giving a go instead of staying with ComputerCraft
L884[14:22:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Like hell, you can do both, but /no/, it has to be a holy war >.<
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L886[14:22:31] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: All is a holy war! OC master race!
L887[14:22:37] <Qanthelas> heh I believe it, and that is actually (indirectly) part of what brings me here - I think part of what makes it tricky is that CC has a ton of pastebins and YouTube videos showcasing how to use it to do cool stuff in game, but OC not so much
L888[14:22:59] <Qanthelas> I'm no programmer, I'm a jurry-rigger, but I'd love to use OC to automate ALL the things
L889[14:23:30] <ShadowKatStudios> As the crazy bastard that wrote an OS from the ground up, I can confirm that you can automate anything and everything, given enough time.
L890[14:23:59] <Qanthelas> I figure the first step is to get a modpack with a ton of mods (looking at Yogscast in 1.6.4 atm, probably DNS Techpack for 1.7.10) and go through in creative mode trying to automate various mods (both with robots and with redstone cards)
L891[14:24:28] <Qanthelas> to see which can work, which can't, and more to the point how to do it with the ones that can - I'm guessing a lot of tinkering to see which slot you have to input into from a Robot, for example
L892[14:24:47] <Qanthelas> part of what brings me here is a search for examples of integration with other mods - are there any such examples yet?
L893[14:25:00] <ShadowKatStudios> OpenComponents adds a bunch
L894[14:25:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Computronics adds more on top of that
L895[14:25:27] <ShadowKatStudios> .w component
L896[14:25:27] <^v> ShadowKatStudios, http://ocd.cil.li/component
L897[14:25:39] <Qanthelas> and OpenComponents is bundled into OC 1.4, right?
L898[14:25:47] <ShadowKatStudios> I believe so.
L899[14:25:59] <ShadowKatStudios> >.< I want to read my lisp book, but the background is white and it's dark and my computer has a dark theme
L900[14:25:59] <Qanthelas> but hmm, heard a bit about Computronics, gonna have to look into that one
L901[14:26:01] * Qanthelas googles
L902[14:26:13] <ShadowKatStudios> http://mc.shinonome.ch
L903[14:26:14] <Qanthelas> #programmerproblems amirite?
L904[14:26:40] <Qanthelas> cheers for the link, reading
L905[14:26:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I blame adobe. They didn't allow dynamic backgrounds, it seems.
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L907[14:27:07] <ShadowKatStudios> http://mc.shinonome.ch/doku.php?id=wiki:computronics better link for computronics
L908[14:28:06] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: ps and pdf are meant for printing, not for reading on a screen, so no, no dynamic backgrounds
L909[14:28:26] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Are you reading Practical Common Lisp?
L910[14:28:35] <Ender> Qanthelas, components is part of OC in 1.4, yes
L911[14:28:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Indeed, I'm thinking I'll re-locate the web version
L912[14:28:43] <Qanthelas> I'm already a big fan of AE2 for automation and storage, so integration with OC certainly has my attention - I'll definitely have to check out Computronics
L913[14:28:54] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Get the web version and hack the CSS
L914[14:29:07] <ShadowKatStudios> wtf why is there a coathanger in my bed?
L915[14:29:20] <Ender> ....
L916[14:29:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Wobbo: I have stylish with a dark theme
L917[14:29:36] <ShadowKatStudios> automatic dark theme :D
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L919[14:31:19] <Qanthelas> on the MightyPirates videos and on Open Projects I see lots of examples of the nighty-gritty parts of OC, but are there any examples of how to use it to do something with others mods? Or even basic Minecraft things like chop down trees or dig a tunnel
L920[14:31:35] <ShadowKatStudios> I think there's a dig program
L921[14:31:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Possibly a tunnel program
L922[14:31:50] * Wobbo has mostly been busy with the OS
L923[14:31:58] <ShadowKatStudios> I think quite a bit of the community is obsessed with networking and OSes, myself included.
L924[14:32:28] <Wobbo> An OS just needs a good system to manage Daemons, dammit! :P
L925[14:32:35] <Wobbo> And Variable expansion!
L926[14:32:43] <Ender> #y
L927[14:32:46] <Ender> hm
L928[14:32:48] -Kibibyte- Ender: 221000000 results total; First: Lifestyle - YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/people
L929[14:32:49] <Ender> #g
L930[14:32:58] <Ender> Aha
L931[14:33:09] <Ender> #y thatjoshgreen
L932[14:33:10] -Kibibyte- Ender: 205 results total; First: ThatJoshGreen - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/user/thatjgr33n
L933[14:33:16] <EvaKnievel> I'm writing something at the moment for mining a tunnel
L934[14:33:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Wobbo: An OS needs to be optomised for RAM usage and simplicty
L935[14:33:32] <ShadowKatStudios> ie micrOS
L936[14:33:32] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: That to
L937[14:33:50] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: But I also want variable expansion and daemons!
L938[14:33:51] <ShadowKatStudios> I wonder how hard it would be to abuse OpenOS into being reasonable at RAM usage.
L939[14:33:55] <Ender> Qanthelas, I have basic videos of OC interacting with railcraft using computronics, check the link above
L940[14:34:12] <ShadowKatStudios> It's like Vista compared to UNIX v6 at the moment...
L941[14:34:44] <Stary2001> Haha
L942[14:34:49] <Qanthelas> from my point of view as a newbie to all things Minecraft Lua computer mod related, my impression is that OC is more powerful/flexible than CC and has a better (imo, mainly 'more open') community, but CC is the fan favorite because there are so many examples and pre-made code for Minecraft tasks
L943[14:35:22] <Qanthelas> I can't do much to help code an OS or improve RAM usage, but I can test things in game, and that's what I'd like to do :)
L944[14:35:24] <Ender> Qanthelas, also take into account that CC has been around longer
L945[14:35:24] <Wobbo> Qanthelas: OC is most certainly more open, both JAva side and in game
L946[14:35:55] <Wobbo> Qanthelas: I'm currently writing code that should go into the OS :D
L947[14:36:12] <Qanthelas> certainly true that part of what makes CC the go-to for most is that it has been around longer, but from what I see it's worth my time to dive into OC rather than CC
L948[14:36:45] <ShadowKatStudios> CC has skiddie programs avalible
L949[14:36:46] <EvaKnievel> it's also a lot easier to use CC
L950[14:37:05] <EvaKnievel> to get up and running with it
L951[14:37:40] <EvaKnievel> you want to really enjoy programming and mucking around with a baby os or you will get frustrated super fast
L952[14:38:02] <Qanthelas> I think you are probably right, imo it's a common thing in computer related things for consumers - make it easier, but at the cost of customizability and openness
L953[14:38:40] <Wobbo> Qanthelas: Do you have experience with cli shells of any kind?
L954[14:38:43] <Qanthelas> but I think, in the end, OC offers a lot more possibilities to both create and share - that is what draws me to this mod
L955[14:38:50] <Qanthelas> only hobby level experience
L956[14:39:02] <Wobbo> That will be enough for using OpenOS
L957[14:39:21] <Qanthelas> tinkering with a few linux distros, some horrible cludging with python to bend it to my will, that kind of thing
L958[14:39:25] <Wobbo> As long as you know how to walk the file structure and start programs, you should be good to go
L959[14:39:30] <EvaKnievel> if you are interested in learning to program etc this is a good way to do it
L960[14:39:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Qanthelas: "make it easier, but at the cost of customizability and openness" You just described winderps.
L961[14:39:50] <EvaKnievel> it's quite a bit of fun, if a little frustrating, friendly people to ask questions of here, good documentation
L962[14:40:00] <Qanthelas> that is part of my motivation, too - OC is a bit trickier but more 'real', for lack of a better word
L963[14:40:14] <ShadowKatStudios> OC lacks a ROM. Lacking a ROM is win.
L964[14:40:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Homebrew OS ftw
L965[14:40:24] <Wobbo> That ^
L966[14:40:40] <ShadowKatStudios> DOes anyone happen to have a copy of micrOS? My server is down, as you know
L967[14:40:43] <Ender> a.Jenkins
L968[14:40:47] <Ender> Tablet :@
L969[14:40:50] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: nope
L970[14:40:53] <Ender> .Jenkins
L971[14:41:01] <Qanthelas> heh ShadowKat, I see it as Win vs. Mac tracking to be customizable and flexible respectively while the Linux distros are off on their own side like "Hmm, they think they are different from each other, and their fanboys really think they're different...how cute"
L972[14:41:03] <EnderBot2> Latest builds: OpenGX: #17 | ICBMComponent: #21 | OpenLights1.7: #18 | OpenComputers: #561 | OpenComputers-MC1.7.10: #69 | OpenComponents: #55 | OpenPrinter: #75 | Kilo1710: #6 | OpenComponents-MC1.7: #25 | OpenLights: #20 | Kilo164: #11 | OpenPrinter1.7: #80
L973[14:41:25] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: It is not on Github?
L974[14:41:30] <ShadowKatStudios> nope
L975[14:41:36] <Ender> I need to update the stuff in that command
L976[14:41:42] <ShadowKatStudios> I had it as a tar on my ftp server
L977[14:42:10] <Wobbo> Qanthelas: Mac is different from windows, Mac has a solid Unix core that is easily accessable
L978[14:42:37] <DeanIsaKitty> .fail 21
L979[14:42:37] <^v> DeanIsaKitty, [21] Fanatic 64 ~ I mean, why couldn't Torvals just stick to the DOS style of command line?
L980[14:42:41] <ShadowKatStudios> But to retrieve it, I have to get off the couch, walk 2 rooms, turn on my desktop, find a USB, copy the files using sudo cp, derp around for 10 minutes, then get the code.
L981[14:42:47] <DeanIsaKitty> because relevant ^
L982[14:42:49] <ShadowKatStudios> .fail 77
L983[14:42:49] <^v> ShadowKatStudios, [77] <ShadowKatStudios> So I'm browsing 4chan, and looking at rather questionable pictures of anime girls, then my grandad turns up at the front door and I don't minimize firefox...
L984[14:42:51] <ShadowKatStudios> best fail
L985[14:43:05] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles ShadowKatStudios
L986[14:43:11] * Ender cuddles DeanIsaKitty
L987[14:43:13] * ShadowKatStudios cuddles DeanIsaKitty
L988[14:43:20] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Ender
L989[14:43:41] <ShadowKatStudios> (defun prompt-read (prompt) (format *query-io* "~a: " prompt) (force-output *query-io*) (read-line *query-io*))
L990[14:43:52] <ShadowKatStudios> lisp, beautiful but giant wtf
L991[14:45:13] <Qanthelas> where is the API info for the Adapter block? the link at http://ocdoc.cil.li/block:adapter points to https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/tree/master/src/main/java/li/cil/oc/api which gives a 404 (presumably since OpenComponents is now worked into OC itself)
L992[14:45:41] <ShadowKatStudios> The adaptor turns other stuff into components
L993[14:45:49] <Wobbo> Qanthelas: the adapter has no API
L994[14:45:51] <ShadowKatStudios> You have to look up the API for that other block
L995[14:46:02] <Wobbo> Qanthelas: It just connects components into the network ^
L996[14:46:19] <Qanthelas> er ok, good point, I didn't phrase that right
L997[14:46:29] <Qanthelas> I meant whatever that Adapter wiki page means by "The Documentation"
L998[14:46:59] <Wobbo> Qanthelas: That is Java side
L999[14:47:21] <Wobbo> It is necessary if you want your block to interact with an adapter
L1000[14:47:32] <Ender> Wobbo, don't you mean scalar? (unless your talking about the OC API, which is java)
L1001[14:47:39] <Qanthelas> lisp parentheses "Elegant weapons for a more civilized age." http://xkcd.com/297/
L1002[14:47:44] <Ender> s/r//
L1003[14:47:44] <Kibibyte> <Qanthelas> lisp paentheses "Elegant weapons for a more civilized age." http://xkcd.com/297/
L1004[14:47:47] <Ender> fak
L1005[14:47:52] <Wobbo> Ender: I meant Java, the API is Java
L1006[14:48:41] * ShadowKatStudios brandishes a parenthesis at the crowd in the room
L1007[14:49:09] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: We should find a modder that wants to build a Lisp architecture :P
L1008[14:49:13] * Qanthelas imagines the parentheses making the 'whom, whom' sound of a lightsabre
L1009[14:49:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Wobbo: If we do, we need to make the parenthesis both a weapon and a crafting ingredient.
L1010[14:49:51] <Wobbo> XD
L1011[14:50:38] <Qanthelas> as a crafting ingredient, it needs to require two of them and if you don't use an even number then it should explode like the Unstable Ingot
L1012[14:51:31] <ShadowKatStudios> my phone stopped counting IRC messages at 255 xD
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L1016[14:53:12] <Wobbo> Fuck you to router!
L1017[14:53:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Unneeded mental image
L1018[14:55:06] * Qanthelas stops reading a wiki article mid-way with a look of wonder
L1019[14:55:11] <Qanthelas> ...ThaumicTinkerer (Golem Connector)....DO WANT
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L1021[14:59:01] <Ender> Not sure how that operates, you'll need to speak to the Thaumic Tinkerer rev
L1022[14:59:04] <Ender> dev*
L1023[14:59:22] <Qanthelas> fair enough, something to check out, but it has my interest
L1024[14:59:38] <Qanthelas> anyway, I'm going to wade through some wiki articles and such for now but later on my plan is to do some testing with various popular mods to try to get them to interact OC to do at least basic functions
L1025[15:00:10] <Qanthelas> from there I'd like to prepare some examples of how to automate some common tasks in various mods (perhaps easier said than done, but that is my goal at this point)
L1026[15:00:13] <Ender> uhoh, mouse gone
L1027[15:00:14] <Ender> :/
L1028[15:00:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Mouse gone?
L1029[15:00:22] <Ender> It's back
L1030[15:02:40] <ShadowKatStudios> So i just realised that i have no idea how to save my interactive lisp sessions
L1031[15:02:59] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: You don't save interactive lisp sessions
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L1033[15:03:13] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: You install slimv and write your lisp code in vim
L1034[15:03:42] <ShadowKatStudios> I was thinking slime, but slimv would probably be better- can I do it with plain vi?
L1035[15:03:57] <ShadowKatStudios> and/or does everything in vi work the same in vim?
L1036[15:04:02] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: does plain vi have plugins? D:
L1037[15:04:10] <ShadowKatStudios> no idea
L1038[15:04:13] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: I would install vim if I were you
L1039[15:04:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I know how to use vi though
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L1041[15:05:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Is vim more or less the same as vi?
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L1043[15:05:15] <DeanIsaKitty> vi & vim is basically no difference in how you use it O.O
L1044[15:05:25] <ShadowKatStudios> :q!
L1045[15:05:29] <DeanIsaKitty> All the keybindings are the same pretty much...
L1046[15:05:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Okey, all I needed to know.
L1047[15:05:35] <DeanIsaKitty> s/pretty much//
L1048[15:05:35] <Kibibyte> <DeanIsaKitty> All the keybindings are the same ...
L1049[15:05:41] <ShadowKatStudios> x is backspace in command mode?
L1050[15:06:04] <DeanIsaKitty> yes
L1051[15:06:38] <Ender> VIM = Vi IMproved (according to :help in vim)
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L1053[15:07:41] <Qanthelas> gorram spotty internet
L1054[15:08:11] <Qanthelas> anyway, I expect to end up with several questions along the way so I suspect you'll be seeing more of me
L1055[15:08:15] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Vim is the replacement for vi
L1056[15:08:29] <ShadowKatStudios> gorram
L1057[15:08:31] <ShadowKatStudios> good word
L1058[15:09:09] <Ender> Qanthelas, drop by anytime. theres generally always someone who can help or point you in the right direction
L1059[15:09:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Just idle in here, it's easier
L1060[15:09:53] <Qanthelas> I will later - on a laptop atm, but I'll set up this channel back on my desktop to idle
L1061[15:10:08] <Qanthelas> thanks for the welcome and I'll talk with you all later!
L1062[15:10:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Qanthelas: Don't idle here. The madness resides in #oc O.O
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L1064[15:10:31] <ShadowKatStudios> DeanIsaKitty, ssh, you'll scare away our next victim!
L1065[15:10:39] <ShadowKatStudios> >:)
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L1067[15:16:06] <ShadowKatStudios> I want to do a pacman -Syu but last time I did it killed my wifi drivers...
L1068[15:16:24] <ShadowKatStudios> aaand burned my retinas again
L1069[15:16:33] <DeanIsaKitty> gj
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L1071[15:20:24] <v^> phones
L1072[15:20:26] <v^> wat r yo doin
L1073[15:20:52] <v^> why dont you have foam on the side of the glass
L1074[15:21:01] <v^> so it doesnt crack when you drop it
L1075[15:22:40] <Ender> v^, because thag would be logical
L1076[15:23:06] <v^> >_>
L1077[15:23:14] <v^> but it would prevent the screen from cracking
L1078[15:23:15] <v^> entirely
L1079[15:25:08] <ShadowKatStudios> v^: Apple makes half the profit on iPhones out of repairs
L1080[15:25:19] <ShadowKatStudios> The other half out of the iTunes tax
L1081[15:25:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Fun fact: If iPhone would be a seperate company, It would still be worlds biggest. :D
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L1083[15:30:28] <mindstorm8191> morning everyone. well _that_ was a bit scary. Got on my computer, went to google.com... firefox couldn't find the server. went to yahoo.com, it loaded fine. was google down or something?!? I tried google again and it worked
L1084[15:31:27] <ShadowKatStudios> DeanIsaKitty: That's worrying that so many of the common people are sheep like that, isn't it?
L1085[15:32:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, iPhone is somewhat Idiotproof. Windoze is used widely in companies for a reason.
L1086[15:32:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Android is pretty hard to break too.
L1087[15:32:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Mind you, non-store apps.
L1088[15:33:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Android vanilla can do around as much as iPhone jailbroken. Android is really easy to break compared to iOS.
L1089[15:33:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Which phone?
L1090[15:38:10] <v^> ShadowKatStudios, "hard to break"
L1091[15:38:28] <vifino> I have not broken my phone yet ;D
L1092[15:38:41] <ShadowKatStudios> my phone is definitely hard to break- I've dropped it more times than I care to count
L1093[15:39:50] <v^> android is an OS, dont compare how strong it is physically >_>
L1094[15:40:05] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L1095[15:40:13] <v^> "android phones break hurr durr" someone said
L1096[15:40:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Compared to stock iOS, it's quite easy to fuck up if you're an idiot or are trying to update firmware
L1097[15:41:06] <v^> protip: if you dont know what you are doing: continue
L1098[16:08:04] <Wobbo> v^: Are you sure you want to sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root? >continue< cancel
L1099[16:08:31] <v^> Wobbo, smash hdd with hammer
L1100[16:08:37] <v^> while its still in use
L1101[16:08:59] <Wobbo> Nah, I have to cook food first
L1102[16:09:08] <ShadowKatStudios> ^
L1103[16:09:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Step 1: Obtain bacon, start long write on HDD
L1104[16:09:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Step 2: Apply bacon to HDD
L1105[16:09:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Step 3: ??sp??a??r??k??i??n??g??o??f??h??d??d??
L1106[16:10:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Step 4: profit!
L1107[16:12:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Why is my CPU graph equal to the song's volume? o.O
L1108[16:15:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Maybe it IS the song volume? :P
L1109[16:15:48] <ShadowKatStudios> It's rather non-specific, it's labelled 'Usage'
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L1113[16:21:55] <Ender> k bai
L1114[16:21:57] <Ender> :P
L1115[16:22:30] <Wobbo> Maybe their irc server dropped or something?
L1116[16:22:36] * Wobbo has no clue how irc works
L1117[16:22:37] <Daiyousei> bouncer*
L1118[16:22:56] <Daiyousei> :P
L1119[16:22:59] <Ender> i'm guessing that, also neither of them are on jabba
L1120[16:23:03] <Ender> i'm guessing that, also neither of them are on jabber*
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L1122[16:24:16] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios, did deans bouncer die?
L1123[16:24:23] <ShadowKatStudios> looks like
L1124[16:24:32] <ShadowKatStudios> rather the VPS
L1125[16:24:34] <ShadowKatStudios> no ping
L1126[16:24:43] <Ender> ah
L1127[16:25:50] <Ender> windows, fuck off downloading your updates i wanna internet! :<
L1128[16:26:01] <ShadowKatStudios> lol
L1129[16:26:10] <ShadowKatStudios> winderps for you
L1130[16:26:16] <Ender> hehe, killed the process
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L1136[16:26:53] <Ender> o/ DeanIsaKitty
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L1139[16:27:37] <SKS-Afk> Yay bouncer back
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L1141[16:28:51] <Ender> i wonder if there's any "distributed" bouncers
L1142[16:29:14] <Ender> i.e. if one node dies you get redirected through another
L1143[16:29:26] <ShadowKatStudios> IRC through IRC?
L1144[16:29:41] <Wobbo> Ender: maybe, there is also mosh, so why not?
L1145[16:29:49] <Ender> Wobbo, what?
L1146[16:30:18] <Wobbo> https://mosh.mit.edu
L1147[16:30:29] <Wobbo> Basically ssh for roaming
L1148[16:30:54] <Ender> seems cool
L1149[16:30:56] <Wobbo> Anyway, I'll be eating now
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L1151[16:31:10] <ShadowKatStudios> nom
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L1156[17:01:23] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles ShadowKatStudios
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L1158[17:01:50] *** Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L1159[17:02:02] <Kodos> Torn between Minecraft or Planetside 2
L1160[17:02:29] <Pwootage> Well Minecraft is a lot of fun
L1161[17:02:40] <Pwootage> (no idea what's going on here)
L1162[17:05:44] <Vexatos> 4-hour chemistry exam done, 2-hour CS exam tomorrow
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L1164[17:05:51] <Vexatos> Topic: Encryption >__>
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L1167[17:07:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Vexatos: glhf :P
L1168[17:08:08] <Vexatos> I love CS exams
L1169[17:08:10] <Vexatos> always so easy
L1170[17:08:25] <Pwootage> I don't think I've ever had a hard CS exam, come to think of it
L1171[17:08:36] <Pwootage> I don't know if I've ever even gotten less then like 90%
L1172[17:08:42] <Pwootage> s/then/than/
L1173[17:08:42] <Kibibyte> <Pwootage> I don't know if I've ever even gotten less than like 90%
L1174[17:08:51] <Vexatos> I didn't ever get less than 97%
L1175[17:08:53] <Vexatos> Pretty awesome
L1176[17:09:11] <Vexatos> <--best subject
L1177[17:09:24] <Pwootage> I don't generally keep track of grades, I get a's so it doesn't matter
L1178[17:09:30] <Pwootage> but yeah, CS is easy peasy
L1179[17:14:12] <Wobbo|Eating> We have systems in place to keep track of grades :P
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L1182[17:15:19] <Negi> Hey !
L1183[17:15:30] <Ender> hi
L1184[17:16:41] <Negi> I completely forgot to start this again x_x
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L1187[17:23:15] <Pwootage> Yes, there is a system to check my grades
L1188[17:23:24] <Pwootage> but if they say greater than like 90% I don't care about details
L1189[17:24:10] <Wobbo|Disches> On that bike. If it is higher than a 7 I don't care either
L1190[17:24:34] <Pwootage> Alright, time to actually start sor1k >.>
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L1193[17:34:08] <Pwootage> OC is MIT right?
L1194[17:34:16] <Pwootage> I guess I could just check the repo
L1195[17:34:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Yes
L1196[17:34:39] <Pwootage> Guess that means I'll have to MIT sor1k (or at least, not full GPL)
L1197[17:34:52] <DeanIsaKitty> Uhm
L1198[17:34:59] <DeanIsaKitty> is sor1k an addon?
L1199[17:38:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Pwootage: Also, MIT is afaik GPL-Compatible.
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L1201[17:38:35] <Pwootage> Yeah but from what I understand you can include MIT code in GPL but not GPL code in MIT (I could be wrong)
L1202[17:38:53] <Pwootage> sor1k is "Scala OpenRisc 1000" virtual machine
L1203[17:39:01] <Pwootage> will eventually be embedded in OC
L1204[17:39:06] <DeanIsaKitty> I see no reason why that should be the case
L1205[17:39:39] <Pwootage> Well because if you're MIT then someone proprietary could use your code, but if you depend on GPL'd code, then they can't
L1206[17:40:08] <Pwootage> seems kinda ambiguous
L1207[17:41:23] <DeanIsaKitty> anyway, GPL in Minecraft mods is somewhat problematic.
L1208[17:41:54] <Pwootage> I think you can pull it off with some linking exceptions
L1209[17:41:58] <Pwootage> I hate code legalities >.<
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L1213[17:42:49] <CompanionCube> don't want a wolverness v2.
L1214[17:43:18] <Pwootage> indeed
L1215[17:47:28] <Prince_Vifino> project-neon5-kdesu desu desu
L1216[17:52:35] <Wobbo|Disches> Pwootage: you wanted to GPL your code? O_o
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L1218[17:59:49] <CompanionCube> http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Unlimited-Lite-Connect-broadband/GPL-source-code-compliance/m-p/2182427#M60770
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L1220[18:02:19] <gamax92> oh man
L1221[18:02:30] <gamax92> looking at these Graphic replacement emulators
L1222[18:02:41] <gamax92> theres one for Master System and NES
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L1225[18:14:52] <gamax92> Kilobyte: you know how they have processors that can execute java bytecode?
L1226[18:15:01] <gamax92> What if you were to program in scala for them
L1227[18:15:30] <CompanionCube> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/uk-convicts-man-over-manga-sex-images-of-children/
L1228[18:15:34] <gamax92> umm
L1229[18:15:39] <CompanionCube> <Ultros> Esper | Kasen: >Prosecutors said the defendant was "actively searching for this material on the Internet."
L1230[18:16:08] <Kilobyte> gamax92: who?
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L1232[18:16:15] <gamax92> i love how the one book turned towards the camera
L1233[18:16:32] * CompanionCube is weirded out by the article
L1234[18:17:15] <gamax92> well thats interesting.
L1235[18:18:33] <gamax92> so is the u.s one listed at the bottom
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L1237[18:26:35] <gamax92> "So if I drew a naked stick figure and write at the bottom "This is a drawing of a 12 years old" then I'd be going to jail in the UK?" "How can you even tell if a stick figure is naked?"
L1238[18:27:40] <CompanionCube> gamax92, idfk
L1239[18:27:49] <gamax92> CompanionCube: don't tell me that
L1240[18:27:54] <gamax92> those are quotes
L1241[18:28:00] <CompanionCube> ik
L1242[18:28:00] <gamax92> hence quotation marks
L1243[18:28:04] <gamax92> so why did you tell me
L1244[18:43:53] <gamax92> Ahh good ol git ...
L1245[18:43:58] <gamax92> merging a branch into itself
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L1247[18:47:20] <Ender> lol
L1248[18:49:39] <CompanionCube> http://rs1img.memecdn.com/doesn-amp-039-t-matter-what-you-say-somebody-will-always-get-offended_o_3512909.webp
L1249[18:51:46] <Vexatos> Hi
L1250[18:51:54] <Vexatos> CompanionCube, feel offended now
L1251[18:52:25] <CompanionCube> why
L1252[18:52:47] <Vexatos> (Check the URL you posted)
L1253[18:52:58] <CompanionCube> ik
L1254[18:53:11] <CompanionCube> but why did you feel offended? :p
L1255[18:55:37] <gamax92> CompanionCube: "You should never use always or never because you'll never be right and someone will always prove you wrong"
L1256[18:55:40] <Kilobyte> yay i trashed the arch on my laptop
L1257[18:55:44] <gamax92> yay
L1258[18:55:45] <Kilobyte> gotta reinstall
L1259[18:55:47] <gamax92> now replace it
L1260[18:55:48] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, how
L1261[18:55:51] <Kilobyte> idfk
L1262[18:55:56] <gamax92> replace it with Haiku
L1263[18:55:59] <Kilobyte> but eh, was gonna reinstall enyways
L1264[18:56:03] <Kilobyte> gamax92: wat
L1265[18:56:08] <gamax92> I actually want to try out haiku some time.
L1266[18:56:19] <CompanionCube> I want to try out ReactOS at one point
L1267[18:56:28] <gamax92> So why don't you try it?
L1268[18:56:28] <Daiyousei> i want to try out plan 9 sometime
L1269[18:56:33] * Daiyousei runs
L1270[18:56:43] <gamax92> I want to try out OC 1.4
L1271[18:56:47] <Kilobyte> nah, its gonna be another arch
L1272[18:56:50] <gamax92> D:
L1273[18:56:57] <Kilobyte> with full disk encryption though
L1274[18:57:00] <Daiyousei> does anyone even use haiku
L1275[18:57:03] <gamax92> but, if you stick with the same stuff, you'll never expe ... that sounds like a bad idea
L1276[18:57:04] <gamax92> yeah
L1277[18:57:11] <Kilobyte> so in case i lose it, i don't lose data to whoever finds it
L1278[18:57:12] <gamax92> people who use haiku use haiku
L1279[18:57:24] <gamax92> but what if you lose data to yourself
L1280[18:57:26] <Daiyousei> well, since people use haiku, i guess people use plan 9 too
L1281[18:57:28] <Kilobyte> gamax92: you don't say
L1282[18:57:34] <gamax92> I do say :D
L1283[18:57:38] <Kilobyte> gamax92: its mostly for work at uni
L1284[18:57:44] <gamax92> But its arch
L1285[18:57:51] <Kilobyte> and?
L1286[18:57:52] <gamax92> and by definition arch linux will break at some point
L1287[18:58:08] <Kilobyte> and then i load a snapshot
L1288[18:58:20] <gamax92> is this a vm?
L1289[18:58:28] <Kilobyte> err no?
L1290[18:58:35] <gamax92> what do you mean by snapshot
L1291[18:58:42] <Kilobyte> i do actually have a snapshot, but its shit slow and i was gonna reinstall anyways
L1292[18:58:57] <Kilobyte> gamax92: a snapshot of the disk.
L1293[18:59:05] <gamax92> so its just a disk image.
L1294[18:59:08] <Kilobyte> no
L1295[18:59:10] <Kilobyte> :P
L1296[18:59:11] <gamax92> D:
L1297[18:59:15] <gamax92> such confuse
L1298[18:59:15] <Kilobyte> its a btrfs snapshot
L1299[18:59:18] <gamax92> oh
L1300[18:59:29] <gamax92> thats cool, i didn't know btrfs supported that
L1301[18:59:44] <gamax92> i guess technically any fs would support that.
L1302[18:59:52] <Kilobyte> well, btrfs does them CoW
L1303[18:59:59] <gamax92> copy on write?
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L1305[19:00:02] <Kilobyte> yes
L1306[19:00:16] <Kilobyte> btrfs is zfs on crack
L1307[19:00:23] <gamax92> btrfs is crack on crack
L1308[19:00:38] <Sangar> i wouldn't trust a junkie with my data
L1309[19:00:42] <Sangar> oh, and o/
L1310[19:00:45] <gamax92> lol
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L1312[19:00:49] <gamax92> such introduction
L1313[19:00:52] <Kilobyte> it got most of zfs features, but many more
L1314[19:00:57] <Kilobyte> including raid support
L1315[19:01:00] <gamax92> Fun fact
L1316[19:01:03] <gamax92> I've not used either
L1317[19:01:09] <Kilobyte> (unlike zfs you can reconfigure raid level online)
L1318[19:01:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw, i never see you on xmpp :P
L1319[19:01:20] <gamax92> nothing of mine is RAID
L1320[19:01:32] <gamax92> i even had a RAID card that was flashed to be a standard card.
L1321[19:01:42] <Kilobyte> btrfs also has per-block checksumming
L1322[19:02:02] <Pwootage> has btrfs become more stable and/or gained a fsck implementation since I last checked?
L1323[19:02:15] <Kilobyte> Pwootage: it is mostly stable now
L1324[19:02:26] <gamax92> i wonder how much errors the ReactOS fat implementation can handle
L1325[19:02:34] <gamax92> I should try feeding it intentionally broken stuff
L1326[19:02:35] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yeah. i tend to either forget starting pidgin or am too lazy to :P
L1327[19:02:42] <Kilobyte> still not recommendet for servers though
L1328[19:02:54] <Kilobyte> Sangar: well... for me it starts on boot :P
L1329[19:03:19] <Pwootage> ext4 is also quite nice, but copy-on-write is awesome (well, except for when you want to overwrite files on delete)
L1330[19:03:24] <Sangar> i have almost no automatically starting programs :P
L1331[19:03:44] <Kilobyte> Sangar: well, KDE remembers all programs i had open when shutting down
L1332[19:03:48] <Pwootage> Here's my secret to not forgetting to launch programs: I don't restart my computers
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L1336[19:04:17] <gamax92> ooooh ....
L1337[19:04:39] <gamax92> so in zelda 2, link isn't holding his umm ... you know. Why is the sword the same color as his skin.
L1338[19:04:48] <gamax92> that sprite is so awkward
L1339[19:05:02] <Pwootage> s/sprite/game/
L1340[19:05:02] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> that game is so awkward
L1341[19:05:14] <Kilobyte> Pwootage: anyways, it'll prob be a couple years until btrfs is considered stable
L1342[19:05:16] <gamax92> s/that game/Pwootage/
L1343[19:05:16] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> Pwootage is so awkward
L1344[19:05:26] <Kilobyte> fuck you i lost the game
L1345[19:05:34] <gamax92> pleb
L1346[19:05:34] <Pwootage> I didn't even try \o/
L1347[19:05:40] <gamax92> u play the game
L1348[19:05:42] <gamax92> pleb
L1349[19:06:15] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DknjUcQ7jaw
L1350[19:06:15] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] HDnes - Zelda 2 test | by greenguyon | 2m15s | 22w0d ago | 414 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
L1351[19:06:29] <gamax92> Graphics replacement nes emulator
L1352[19:06:44] <Pwootage> I'm on the train, can't watch videos T.T
L1353[19:06:51] <skyem123> train?
L1354[19:06:53] <Kilobyte> xD
L1355[19:07:02] <Kilobyte> quite late for train
L1356[19:07:06] <gamax92> Pwootage: why are you not inside the train
L1357[19:07:24] <Kilobyte> gamax92: less fun
L1358[19:07:31] <Pwootage> It's too loud in there, so I am on it instead
L1359[19:07:41] <Pwootage> oop, almost didn't duck in time for that tunnel
L1360[19:07:47] <skyem123> Is it electric
L1361[19:07:50] <CompanionCube> how do you has wifi on the train
L1362[19:07:53] <gamax92> ^
L1363[19:08:07] <gamax92> its Power over ethernet
L1364[19:08:09] <CompanionCube> normally wifi cards are bork traveling at that speed
L1365[19:08:17] <gamax92> the train gets power and internet on the rail
L1366[19:08:25] <CompanionCube> ofc
L1367[19:08:29] <skyem123> ?
L1368[19:08:31] <skyem123> wat
L1369[19:08:34] <gamax92> but seriously how do you have wifi on the train
L1370[19:08:35] <CompanionCube> but if he's on the roof, there are no PoE ports
L1371[19:08:36] <Pwootage> It's diesel train (well technically electric but the electricity is generated by a big diesel engine) with free wifi (which is basically just a cell network)
L1372[19:08:49] <gamax92> oh, okay that makes sense
L1373[19:08:52] <skyem123> Diesel electric.
L1374[19:08:58] <CompanionCube> so it's cellular wifi?
L1375[19:09:05] <Kilobyte> high speed trains usually have free wifi
L1376[19:09:12] <Pwootage> it's bridged over wifi yeah
L1377[19:09:20] <Pwootage> this train peaks at about 80mph
L1378[19:09:37] <Kilobyte> whatever that is in metric units (km/h)
L1379[19:09:44] <Pwootage> one moment
L1380[19:10:04] <skyem123> electric trains around here have a top speed of 80mhh
L1381[19:10:07] <Pwootage> 128.7 kph
L1382[19:10:07] <CompanionCube> a fun way to abuse poe: plug in a router that can use power from poe
L1383[19:10:32] <Kilobyte> Pwootage: not THAT fast
L1384[19:10:43] <Pwootage> faster than the freeway AND I don't have to drive :D
L1385[19:10:49] <Kilobyte> the fastest trains here are like 300 km/h
L1386[19:10:55] <Pwootage> (the freeway is 65mph around here)
L1387[19:10:59] <Kilobyte> wtf
L1388[19:11:04] <Kilobyte> that sounds slow
L1389[19:11:05] <Pwootage> Yeah, it's a regular train, not a high-speed train
L1390[19:11:22] <Pwootage> 65 is pretty average for freeways
L1391[19:11:28] <Kilobyte> here motorways are usually 130 km/h (some parts are unlimited)
L1392[19:11:40] <Pwootage> my old car sometimes had problems doing 65 going uphill against the wind
L1393[19:11:45] <Kilobyte> and by unlimited i literally mean unlimited
L1394[19:11:50] <skyem123> ._.
L1395[19:12:11] <Pwootage> there are some roads here (further out of town) that peak at 80mph (which is about 130km/h)
L1396[19:12:36] <Kilobyte> well, 130 is what you gotta drive in driving school at least
L1397[19:12:55] <Pwootage> (and everyone drives 5-10mph over the limit anyway)
L1398[19:13:28] <Kilobyte> well, depends, if you say your actual speed is what the car says, then here everyone does too
L1399[19:13:37] <Pwootage> Heh, I think the fastest I've ever driven is probably like 75, and not for long (although I don't do lots of driving, except over this one stretch of freeway)
L1400[19:13:38] <Kilobyte> since its usually off by a bit
L1401[19:13:58] <Pwootage> My old honda was about 5mph slow (I used a GPS to check it)
L1402[19:14:00] <Kilobyte> i think the highest we got on a motorway was 210 km/h
L1403[19:14:03] <Pwootage> current car is pretty accurate
L1404[19:14:25] <Kilobyte> which is pretty much the limit of our car
L1405[19:14:45] <Kilobyte> fast trains go up to 300, so thats definitely faster
L1406[19:14:47] <Pwootage> yeah my car probably wouldn't go that fast, except maybe downhill
L1407[19:15:14] <Pwootage> Maglevs? Traction's a problem at 300kph
L1408[19:15:28] <Kilobyte> those don't exist here :P
L1409[19:15:43] <Kilobyte> we only got regular trains on regular rails
L1410[19:15:49] <Kilobyte> maglevs can go up to 500
L1411[19:16:20] <Kilobyte> since they got way less friction
L1412[19:16:31] <Pwootage> Yeah, and have more traction and are less liable to fly off the track
L1413[19:16:50] <Pwootage> (traction is needed to start and stop, obviously)
L1414[19:18:15] <Pwootage> where do you live, anyway
L1415[19:18:20] <Kilobyte> germany
L1416[19:18:30] <Pwootage> That was my guess
L1417[19:18:33] <Kilobyte> :P
L1418[19:18:55] <skyem123> Britain will use standard gauge trains forever. our old trains are being used on the same lines as new ones.
L1419[19:19:07] <Kilobyte> thats mostly same here
L1420[19:19:36] <Kilobyte> currently trains aren't overly reliable
L1421[19:19:46] <Kilobyte> train drivers are striking a lot right now
L1422[19:19:57] <Pwootage> also, the internet is awesome. I'm sitting on a train, talking to someone who lives 5300 miles (8600km) from me
L1423[19:20:02] <skyem123> \o/
L1424[19:20:08] <Kilobyte> it is :P
L1425[19:20:26] <Kilobyte> i am on irc for a couple years now
L1426[19:20:40] <Pwootage> Your ping is all sorts of mixed up
L1427[19:20:41] <Kilobyte> i wouldn't still be here if i could live without probably
L1428[19:20:52] <Pwootage> CTCP-reply PING from Kilobyte : 435525623.17 sec
L1429[19:20:59] <Kilobyte> thats a bug
L1430[19:21:04] <Kilobyte> .p
L1431[19:21:04] <^v> Ping reply from Kilobyte 0.32s
L1432[19:21:23] <Pwootage> Yeah specifically I was trying to check ping between us, but yeah, about half a second I suppose
L1433[19:21:28] <Pwootage> .p
L1434[19:21:29] <^v> Ping reply from Pwootage 0.8s
L1435[19:21:35] <Kilobyte> thats to my vps though
L1436[19:21:35] <Pwootage> ok, maybe a full second XD
L1437[19:21:36] <skyem123> .p
L1438[19:21:37] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 0.41s
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L1440[19:21:40] <v^> .addfail <rewbycraft> v^: The jvm is pretty fast. <Tanjoodo> Well java isn't that slow
L1441[19:21:40] <^v> v^, Fail 80 added
L1442[19:21:44] <skyem123> .p
L1443[19:21:44] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 0.19s
L1444[19:22:14] <Pwootage> jvm is actually pretty impressive, really
L1445[19:22:15] <Kilobyte> from my vps to my client there is prob quite a bit, my wifi isn't best
L1446[19:22:27] <Kilobyte> jvm is pretty fast for what it does
L1447[19:22:33] <v^> for what it does
L1448[19:22:38] <Kilobyte> still rather slow compared to native code though
L1449[19:23:10] <Altenius> .p
L1450[19:23:11] <^v> Ping reply from Altenius 0.43s
L1451[19:23:14] <Kilobyte> thats why i really want a language thats like scala, but compiles to native code
L1452[19:23:20] <Pwootage> My testing showed same-as-native for some stuff, and not ever much more than about twice as slow
L1453[19:23:31] <Pwootage> Scala -> native would be AWESOME
L1454[19:23:37] <Pwootage> (well something like scala)
L1455[19:23:37] <Kilobyte> ikr
L1456[19:24:01] <Pwootage> Well I'm taking a compiler class next semester, not sure if I write my own language or not
L1457[19:24:02] <Altenius> How does Scala's Speed compare to C or C++?
L1458[19:24:10] <Pwootage> Scala -> jvm -> native
L1459[19:24:12] <Kilobyte> there was a project that was about a scala llvm compiler
L1460[19:24:13] <Pwootage> it's same as java
L1461[19:24:21] <Kilobyte> maybe a tiny bit slower
L1462[19:24:23] <Pwootage> Kilobyte: yeah, that's kinda dead last I checked =\
L1463[19:24:30] <Kilobyte> yeah, sadly
L1464[19:24:37] <Pwootage> It depends on the situation, sometimes scala is faster (tail recursion), but generally slightly slower
L1465[19:24:54] <Kilobyte> but its not that much difference to java
L1466[19:25:05] <Pwootage> What is really needed is scala syntax but a different standard library that's not java's
L1467[19:25:07] <Kilobyte> and the better syntax usually makes it worth
L1468[19:25:18] <Pwootage> AND FUNCTIONAL PROGRAMMING :D
L1469[19:25:35] <Altenius> #oc should make a programming language
L1470[19:25:41] <Kilobyte> Pwootage: ideally you'd have a lang with mostly scala syntax but that could interact with libraries written in c/c++
L1471[19:25:47] <Pwootage> Yeah
L1472[19:25:57] <Pwootage> Let's do it ;D
L1473[19:26:02] <Pwootage> I want to finish sor1k first tho
L1474[19:26:12] <Altenius> sor1k?
L1475[19:26:17] <Kilobyte> actually Daiyousei was working on something like that, but iirc he hasn't worked on it in a while
L1476[19:26:21] <Pwootage> Scala OpenRisc 1000 emu to embed in OC
L1477[19:26:38] <Kilobyte> also using llvm
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L1479[19:26:53] <Pwootage> LLVM is way easier to extend and has all the optimizations written
L1480[19:26:59] <Pwootage> I was reading into it, it's actually super easy to use
L1481[19:27:04] <Daiyousei> llvm is awesome
L1482[19:27:10] <Kilobyte> written in haskell though... so good luck compiling that on windows
L1483[19:27:20] <Daiyousei> llvm + haskell = WHEEEEEEEE
L1484[19:27:21] <Kilobyte> you might be able to do it in cygwin
L1485[19:27:29] <Pwootage> I would probably write it in C or D and then rewrite it in the language itself
L1486[19:27:47] <Kilobyte> Pwootage: you got no idea how easy parsers are to write in haskell
L1487[19:27:54] <Kilobyte> because epic parser libs
L1488[19:27:58] <Daiyousei> ^
L1489[19:28:03] <Daiyousei> parsec and attoparsec
L1490[19:28:04] <Daiyousei> :D
L1491[19:28:05] <Pwootage> Heh, I've never written a parser, so I wouldn't know
L1492[19:28:15] <Kilobyte> parser without lib is quite a pain
L1493[19:28:28] <Kilobyte> first you need a lexer. that is not THAT hard
L1494[19:28:31] <Altenius> I've never heard of D. From a glance, it looks like a mix between C and Java..
L1495[19:28:40] <Altenius> and bash
L1496[19:28:43] <Pwootage> Pretty much
L1497[19:28:53] <Pwootage> D is kinda sorta a better C
L1498[19:28:56] <Pwootage> kinda
L1499[19:28:59] <Kilobyte> it just looks at your code (for example: if (hello()) world()} and makes tokens from it
L1500[19:29:05] <Pwootage> ok train ride over, back in like 15 min when I'm at work
L1501[19:29:19] <Kilobyte> if, (, hello, (, ), ), world, (, )
L1502[19:29:19] <Altenius> From the code on http://dlang.org/ the only difference I see is foreach()
L1503[19:29:23] <Kilobyte> those would be the tokens
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L1505[19:30:09] <Kilobyte> then the parser gets the tokens and makes a syntax tree from it (here in s-expressions): (if (call "hello") (call "world"))
L1506[19:30:37] <v^> .addfail <Zarthus> that's what we were invented to do
L1507[19:30:38] <^v> v^, Fail 81 added
L1508[19:30:38] <Kilobyte> finally you shove that into for example llvm to generate the binary
L1509[19:31:03] <Altenius> v^, context?
L1510[19:31:16] <Kilobyte> Altenius: i think D is memory safe
L1511[19:31:21] <Kilobyte> aka no segfaults
L1512[19:31:24] <Altenius> ooh
L1513[19:31:29] <Kilobyte> unless you literally WANT it
L1514[19:31:34] <Altenius> malloc(-1024)
L1515[19:31:40] <Kilobyte> it also has garbage collection
L1516[19:31:44] <Altenius> meh
L1517[19:31:48] <Altenius> I don't like that
L1518[19:31:51] <LordFokas> no segfaults = no fun.
L1519[19:32:03] <Kilobyte> garbage collection is actually neat, since it can save you trouble
L1520[19:32:13] <Kilobyte> i still vote for a way to explicitely delete an object
L1521[19:32:20] <Altenius> You can't?
L1522[19:32:26] <Kilobyte> dunno
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L1524[19:32:45] <LordFokas> C++ delete obj_ptr;
L1525[19:32:50] <LordFokas> much better
L1526[19:32:51] <Kilobyte> i think you can by grabbing the memory address and doing a call to the c method free
L1527[19:33:09] <LordFokas> oh, so you can use C stuff in D? O.o
L1528[19:33:09] <v^> Altenius, he said we were invented to complain
L1529[19:33:10] <Altenius> C++ shared_ptr is nice.
L1530[19:33:15] <Kilobyte> LordFokas: i think so
L1531[19:33:21] <LordFokas> that's nice
L1532[19:33:26] <Kilobyte> not exactly sure though
L1533[19:33:32] <LordFokas> so you can write ASM in your C in your D
L1534[19:34:01] <Kilobyte> probably
L1535[19:34:07] <LordFokas> I've always been curious about languages like D and F, but never curious enough to care.
L1536[19:34:20] <Kilobyte> not sure if you can access c++ stuff though
L1537[19:34:34] <LordFokas> I'd guess not
L1538[19:34:45] <Kilobyte> yeah
L1539[19:34:56] <Kilobyte> since each compiler does name mangling differently
L1540[19:35:06] <LordFokas> otherwise it'd be a potentially massive clusterfuck
L1541[19:35:07] <Altenius> The only thing I hate with C/C++ is compiling and libraries...
L1542[19:35:21] <Kilobyte> thats actually the main aspect for me too
L1543[19:35:35] <Kilobyte> c(++) with libraries can be a major pain
L1544[19:35:42] * LordFokas actually likes compiling
L1545[19:35:50] <Altenius> Linking them is like... UGH
L1546[19:35:52] <Kilobyte> also, there is no really good build system
L1547[19:35:53] <Altenius> Static and shared..
L1548[19:36:05] <Kilobyte> most have ugly syntax or are hard to use
L1549[19:36:13] <Altenius> CMake is the best imo
L1550[19:36:21] <Kilobyte> it is, but still confusing
L1551[19:36:39] <Kilobyte> i kinda like how gradle/maven do it (mainly gradle)
L1552[19:36:49] <Kilobyte> but thats not c++
L1553[19:36:59] <Altenius> Also: Is it conventional to include libraries in programs? Because some distros have static libs and some and shared and it's a m ess.
L1554[19:37:15] <Altenius> s/and shared/have shared
L1555[19:37:15] <Kibibyte> <Altenius> Also: Is it conventional to include libraries in programs? Because some distros have static libs and some have shared and it's a m ess.
L1556[19:37:35] <Kilobyte> Altenius: usually you compile for a specificly distro.
L1557[19:37:47] <Kilobyte> if you do a cross-distro build you compile statically linked
L1558[19:38:04] <Altenius> Which means including the library in your program?
L1559[19:38:34] <Kilobyte> if you compile yourself, the buildscript should detect if you have the .sos (or only the .as) and pick dynamically linked if possible
L1560[19:38:41] <Kilobyte> since its smaller file size
L1561[19:38:53] <Kilobyte> especially when using Qt, its better to dynamically link
L1562[19:38:57] <Kilobyte> Qt is huge
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L1564[19:40:01] <Kilobyte> but then again, it depends on the distro
L1565[19:40:13] <Kilobyte> for example, on arch you usually link dynamically
L1566[19:40:27] <Altenius> I usually do that, unless it's boost.
L1567[19:40:36] <Altenius> I link boost staticly
L1568[19:40:38] <Kilobyte> boost is a mess :P
L1569[19:40:41] <Altenius> I know
L1570[19:40:43] <Kilobyte> so thats a fair point
L1571[19:40:48] <Altenius> I hate it, but there's not many other options
L1572[19:41:00] <Kilobyte> Qt is one of them, but a huge overhead
L1573[19:41:36] <Kilobyte> what i do like about Qt, you don't really gotta be THAT concerned about copying vs. referencing because most Qt values are CoW
L1574[19:42:26] <Kilobyte> also, i wished microsoft would finally become sane and make windows unix compilant
L1575[19:42:34] <Kilobyte> would make the jobs for developers way easier
L1576[19:42:49] <v^> Kilobyte, by unix you mean POSIX?
L1577[19:42:58] <Kilobyte> err yes
L1578[19:43:05] <v^> yespls
L1579[19:43:33] <Kilobyte> for compatibility the winapi should stay for a version or two (being a wrapper around the posix api)
L1580[19:43:41] <Kilobyte> after that it should be optionally downloadable
L1581[19:43:57] <Kilobyte> obviously it should be marked deprecated the moment they switch
L1582[19:44:33] <Kilobyte> it would also provide a file system wrapper so existing programs stay compatible that way as well
L1583[19:45:11] <CompanionCube> mmm
L1584[19:45:25] <CompanionCube> the windows kernel can technically support a POSIX interface iirc
L1585[19:45:56] <Kilobyte> i would personally map C: to /legacy then symlink /legacy/Users/<username> to /home/<username>
L1586[19:45:59] <Kilobyte> etc
L1587[19:46:53] <Kilobyte> i mean, its certainly possible
L1588[19:47:22] <Kilobyte> might need quite a few changes in the kernel though
L1589[19:47:45] <Kilobyte> in the long run everyone would profit
L1590[19:48:28] <Altenius> Microshaft would never do that.
L1591[19:49:21] <LordFokas> it's bad for the business
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L1593[19:49:50] <Altenius> ^
L1594[19:50:02] <Altenius> Microsoft needs to die.
L1595[19:50:30] <Kilobyte> indeed
L1596[19:50:48] <Kilobyte> i am sure that microsoft did more harm than use over the time
L1597[19:51:04] <Kilobyte> sure, they brought PCs to the masses, but they did so in the worst possible way
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L1599[19:53:23] <Kilobyte> though, i gotta say, windows 10 is pretty neat so far
L1600[19:53:39] <Kilobyte> but still, i doubt its gonna be less of a pain for developers
L1601[19:55:19] <Vexatos> Good night everyone <3
L1602[19:55:41] <Kilobyte> night
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L1605[20:02:43] <Altenius> Windows 10??
L1606[20:02:46] <Altenius> There's not even a 9!
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L1608[20:04:40] <Altenius> Microshaft can't count
L1609[20:04:42] <ds84182> Altenius, and for good reason.
L1610[20:05:07] <ds84182> Altenius, if (os.startsWith("Windows 9")) {//windows 95 and 98 compat}
L1611[20:05:52] <Altenius> ds84182, oh, I thought you meant they couldn't count for a good reason
L1612[20:05:59] <ds84182> no not that
L1613[20:06:07] <ds84182> they skipped 9 for a good reason
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L1615[20:06:31] <ds84182> Like who the hell wants to break half of those really old java applications
L1616[20:06:42] <ds84182> they did atleast think
L1617[20:12:07] <Altenius> "Introducing Windows 10 - the best Windows yet" Don't they always say "the best Windows yet?"
L1618[20:12:29] <Kilobyte> well, every second windows is acceptable for quite some time
L1619[20:12:43] <Kilobyte> and since 8 was shit... 10 will probably be okay
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L1621[20:12:52] <Altenius> 8 was faster than 7 though..
L1622[20:13:03] <Altenius> But yeah, metro sucks.
L1623[20:13:10] <Kilobyte> speed isn't only fact
L1624[20:13:25] <Kilobyte> and tbh, win 7 took 10 secs to boot on this machine
L1625[20:13:33] <Kilobyte> thats pretty good
L1626[20:13:49] <Kilobyte> so, unless you got a slow machine, 7 is definitely enough
L1627[20:14:22] <Altenius> Windows 8 boots in 5 seconds for me O:
L1628[20:14:29] <Altenius> 5-10
L1629[20:14:44] <Kilobyte> yeah, so thats no real difference
L1630[20:14:49] <Altenius> I just looked at some Windows 10 preview, they just keep copying things from xorg >_>
L1631[20:14:55] <Kilobyte> Altenius: that with or without hybrid shutdown?
L1632[20:15:03] <Altenius> with probably
L1633[20:15:13] <Kilobyte> thats kinda cheaty :P
L1634[20:15:17] <Altenius> lol
L1635[20:15:20] <Altenius> We have different hardware!
L1636[20:15:26] <Kilobyte> Host: stephan-desktop-OS: Linux 3.16.4-1-ARCH/x86_64-Distro: Arch Arch Linux release-CPU: 4 x Intel Core i5-4440 (3205.472 MHz)-Processes: 247-Uptime: 5h 19m-Users: 3-Load Average: 1.04-Memory Usage: 5136.79MB/7882.90MB (46.54%)-Disk Usage: 415.11GB/6067.70GB (6.84%)
L1637[20:15:31] <Altenius> What command is that again
L1638[20:15:40] <Kilobyte> /sysinfo -channel
L1639[20:16:10] <Altenius> hm
L1640[20:16:14] <Altenius> HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.16.4-1-ARCH x86_64 ** Distro: ArchLinux ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700MQ CPU @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.6GiB, 75.2% free ** Disk: Total: 197.9GiB, 88.7% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 750M] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 1d 1h 18m
L1641[20:16:14] <Altenius> 24s **
L1642[20:16:30] * CompanionCube is tempted to switch to hexchat
L1643[20:16:36] <CompanionCube> can it import my config file?
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L1645[20:16:45] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: whatcha using atm
L1646[20:16:57] <CompanionCube> XChat on linux
L1647[20:16:58] <Altenius> It only mentions one of my graphics cards :(
L1648[20:16:59] <Altenius> I have sli
L1649[20:17:09] <Kilobyte> also, i personally recommend kvirc if you wanna use a gui client
L1650[20:17:23] <CompanionCube> kvirc looked ugly as fuck when i tried it :(
L1651[20:17:32] <Kilobyte> there are themes
L1652[20:17:38] <Altenius> My uptime O:
L1653[20:17:42] <Kilobyte> only meh part about it is its scripting lang
L1654[20:18:03] <Kilobyte> bastard child of perl, c and bash
L1655[20:18:37] <Altenius> Kilobyte, do you know anything about making plugin systems with C/C++?
L1656[20:18:43] <Kilobyte> yes i do
L1657[20:18:50] <Altenius> O: Tell me
L1658[20:18:51] <Kilobyte> by my expereince is limited to linux
L1659[20:18:56] <Altenius> That's what I use
L1660[20:19:02] <Kilobyte> rather easy
L1661[20:19:14] <Kilobyte> first you make a class Plugin
L1662[20:19:31] <Altenius> ok
L1663[20:19:38] <Altenius> s//okay
L1664[20:19:38] <Kibibyte> <Altenius> okayok
L1665[20:19:46] <Kilobyte> each plugin has a class extending Plugin
L1666[20:19:55] <Altenius> Well
L1667[20:19:58] <Altenius> no
L1668[20:20:00] <Altenius> Not that part of it
L1669[20:20:05] <Altenius> The part with loading plugins
L1670[20:20:10] <Kilobyte> then a function (extern "C") that returns a pointer to Plugin
L1671[20:20:36] <Altenius> A smart pointer? :D
L1672[20:20:41] <Kilobyte> (i usually call it gimme_pluginz. i use a typedef to define it and a macro to make it easier: PLUGIN(MyPluginClass))
L1673[20:21:45] <Kilobyte> then you load the .so using void *plugin = dlopen("plugins/filename.so", RTLD_LAZY);
L1674[20:22:18] <Altenius> Does winblows have the DL library
L1675[20:22:28] <Kilobyte> no, you gotta use something else there
L1676[20:22:33] <Kilobyte> it works almost same though
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L1678[20:22:41] <Kilobyte> just different function names
L1679[20:23:00] <Kilobyte> then you get the function (gimme_pluginz): plugin_creator creator = dlsym(plugin, "gimme_pluginz");
L1680[20:23:17] <Kilobyte> and you grab an instance: Plugin* plugin = creator();
L1681[20:23:42] <Kilobyte> to unload the plugin simply call dlclose(plugin)M
L1682[20:24:01] <Kilobyte> if you wanna be sure you can delete the actual plugin instance BEFORE closing it
L1683[20:24:22] <Altenius> The plugin instances don't need the file open, do they?
L1684[20:24:27] <Kilobyte> (but closing it automatically deletes the plugin as long as the process hasn't used dlopen() on the same plugin twice
L1685[20:24:38] <Kilobyte> Altenius: hm?
L1686[20:24:45] <Altenius> uh
L1687[20:25:00] <Altenius> So, the plugins get NULL'd when calling dlclose()?
L1688[20:25:09] <Altenius> And I have to have that open until the program closes?
L1689[20:25:09] <Kilobyte> the memory gets unallocated
L1690[20:25:20] <Kilobyte> any further actions on the plugin will cause a segfault
L1691[20:25:41] <Altenius> Well then.
L1692[20:25:52] <Altenius> I'm going to try and do the research on pango or something
L1693[20:26:05] <Altenius> Because I seem to suck at graphics rendering, fonts anyway
L1694[20:26:17] <Kilobyte> Altenius: c++ plugin systems are actually way easier than java :P
L1695[20:26:22] <Altenius> Well
L1696[20:26:26] <Kilobyte> because c++ you can actually fully unload a plugin
L1697[20:26:29] <Altenius> They're not cross-compatible though :P
L1698[20:26:33] <Kilobyte> in java you can't
L1699[20:26:42] <Kilobyte> Altenius: thats what we got a preprocessor for
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L1702[20:27:02] <Altenius> And the user has to compile it
L1703[20:27:02] <Kilobyte> make the plugin system extendable
L1704[20:27:17] <Kilobyte> so you can load different types of plugins
L1705[20:27:27] <Pwootage> mback
L1706[20:27:29] <Pwootage> what'd I miss?
L1707[20:27:29] <Wobbo> Alright, I'm back, what did I miss?
L1708[20:27:34] <Pwootage> (that was more than 15 minutes, I know)
L1709[20:27:34] <Kilobyte> you can then also use different implementations for native plugins depending on platform
L1710[20:28:10] <Altenius> What do you mean by "extendable?"
L1711[20:28:36] <Pwootage> You can unload plugins in java
L1712[20:28:52] <Pwootage> and in java 8 it actually will garbage collect the classes (or java 7 with some -X params)
L1713[20:30:26] <Altenius> Kilobyte, I don't suppose you know anything about GTK and font rendering?
L1714[20:30:32] <Altenius> and Cairo and Pango
L1715[20:32:06] <Altenius> Hmmm, Looks like there's a markup language that supports color, but I feel like that would be even slower.
L1716[20:32:27] <Kilobyte> Altenius: general idea: https://gist.github.com/Kilobyte22/1ff73068a32228ac29cc
L1717[20:33:20] <Kilobyte> Altenius: the linuxnativepluginsystem would return Array("so") for supportedFileExtensions()
L1718[20:33:29] <Kilobyte> the windows one dll
L1719[20:33:44] <Kilobyte> osx one (basicly same as linux code wise) would return dylib
L1720[20:34:21] <Kilobyte> in fact, you might wanna make a PosixNativePluginSystem which expects the file extension(s) as constructor param
L1721[20:35:25] <Kilobyte> the call pluginManager.addPluginSystem(new WhateverPluginSystem()); would be done inside #ifdef blocks
L1722[20:36:17] <Kilobyte> you also may wanna make sure that the OS specific files only get compiled on right platform (because missing libs)
L1723[20:36:23] <Kilobyte> Altenius: that enough info?
L1724[20:36:33] <Pwootage> (just to clarify, it would probably be pluginManager->addPluginSystem, right?)
L1725[20:36:34] <Altenius> yes
L1726[20:36:50] <Kilobyte> Pwootage: depends on if pluginManager is a pointer
L1727[20:37:01] <Kilobyte> in my example its not
L1728[20:37:03] <Pwootage> I didn't think you usually used classes as values is all
L1729[20:37:03] <Kilobyte> in yours it is
L1730[20:37:07] <Altenius> You'll probably only need one plugin manager, so most likely not a pointer.
L1731[20:37:30] <Pwootage> I don't write that much C++-like c++ :P
L1732[20:37:32] <Kilobyte> your entire application should be an instance of a class though
L1733[20:37:47] <Altenius> yeah
L1734[20:37:49] <Kilobyte> you mayi
L1735[20:37:57] <Kilobyte> main() should basicly be
L1736[20:38:08] <Kilobyte> Application *app = new Application();
L1737[20:38:11] <Wobbo> Why using C++ for a plugin system? Who not use a base C/C++ app with plugins in Lua?
L1738[20:38:11] <Kilobyte> app->run();
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L1740[20:38:22] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: because native plugins
L1741[20:38:36] <Kilobyte> and with my system it would be rather easy to add lua plugins
L1742[20:38:42] <Wobbo> But Lua! :P
L1743[20:38:45] <Kilobyte> just add a PluginSystem for the lua file extension
L1744[20:38:49] <Pwootage> eew lua
L1745[20:39:03] <Kilobyte> that could actually even by a plugin by itself
L1746[20:39:20] <Kilobyte> so you load lua.so
L1747[20:39:25] <Kilobyte> and then you can load stuff.lua
L1748[20:39:36] <Altenius> yah maybe
L1749[20:39:52] <Kilobyte> i used that approach a few times already and it has really shown to be good
L1750[20:40:00] <Pwootage> that's more-or-less how CanaryMod does/is going to handle multilang plugins
L1751[20:40:01] <Kilobyte> because very modular and flexible
L1752[20:40:42] <Ender> right, back to messing with EnderBot3
L1753[20:41:00] <Pwootage> Poor EnderBot2
L1754[20:41:20] <Ender> Pwootage, in it's current state it's EnderBot2 with a different backend
L1755[20:41:24] <Kilobyte> Altenius: i highly recommend to abstract common calls per-plugin and track them
L1756[20:41:35] * DeanIsaKitty slaps Pwootage
L1757[20:41:36] * EnderBot2 laughs
L1758[20:41:37] <Wobbo> Pwootage: It can go to the bot retirement home next to its naggin neighbour: Enderbot :P
L1759[20:41:38] <Kilobyte> so on plugin unload you can automatically unregister the stuff
L1760[20:41:42] <DeanIsaKitty> I thinks EnderBot2 is fine :D
L1761[20:42:01] <Ender> DeanIsaKitty, the frontend is fine, the backend though....
L1762[20:42:15] <Kilobyte> and a plugin should DEFINITELY get a unload() callback to clean up stuff thats not automatically taken care off
L1763[20:42:26] <DeanIsaKitty> I *told* you to switch to Python3 since like always :<
L1764[20:42:28] <Ender> I'd prefer to use a library and not have to fix it when it doesnt do what it's supposed to
L1765[20:42:32] <Kilobyte> (actually, the deconstructor is called on delete so that should be fine)
L1766[20:42:41] <Ender> DeanIsaKitty, that changes nothing
L1767[20:42:58] <Ender> but i am working to make my current bot both python 2 + 3
L1768[20:43:04] <DeanIsaKitty> q.q
L1769[20:43:25] <Ender> which almost works apart from urllib2 (that was when i gave up with 3 for now )
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L1771[20:44:17] <Kilobyte> i personally don't like python at all
L1772[20:44:19] <Wobbo> I'm going for today. Bye!
L1773[20:44:37] <Pwootage> Python is nice n simple for a lot of stuff
L1774[20:44:41] <Pwootage> it suffers from lack of curlies though
L1775[20:44:45] <Kilobyte> although, getting python to work on windows is easier than ruby
L1776[20:44:54] <Wobbo> Pwootage: there is a lib for that!
L1777[20:44:59] <Kilobyte> ruby on windows is a fucking pain
L1778[20:45:02] <Pwootage> Wobbo: off course there is
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L1780[20:45:10] <CompanionCube> s/ruby/anything
L1781[20:45:10] <Kibibyte> <Kilobyte> anything on windows is a fucking pain
L1782[20:45:15] <Kilobyte> ruby especially
L1783[20:45:16] <Pwootage> I have had a lot of bad experiences with ruby (specifically ruby gems), I havn't written ruby personally though
L1784[20:45:32] <Kilobyte> ask prasselpikachu, he tried to get a rails app to work on windows
L1785[20:45:40] <Pwootage> that sounds painful
L1786[20:45:44] <Kilobyte> he got to the point where the server started after a few hours
L1787[20:45:52] <Kilobyte> asset pipeline is still fucked up though
L1788[20:45:58] <CompanionCube> http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/10/15/when-i-thoroughly-follow-the-requirements/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=when-i-thoroughly-follow-the-requirements
L1789[20:47:53] <Kilobyte> but yeah, ruby is made for unix like systems
L1790[20:48:05] <Kilobyte> and not few ruby libs do not even work on non-unix
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L1792[20:48:52] <Kilobyte> and any library with native extensions is a pain to get to work on windows
L1793[20:49:18] <Kilobyte> its easier to install linux than to get ruby to work for windows
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L1795[20:53:10] <Pwootage> well installing linux is pretty eays
L1796[20:53:16] <Pwootage> easy*
L1797[20:53:24] <CompanionCube> Pwootage, depends on the distro
L1798[20:53:30] <Altenius> And your damn hardware
L1799[20:53:30] <CompanionCube> *cough*gentoo*cough*
L1800[20:53:37] <Altenius> Linux absolutely hates my hardware
L1801[20:53:44] <Altenius> My graphics card anyway -_-
L1802[20:53:50] <Altenius> Took be almost 16 hours to figure it out
L1803[20:54:11] <Kilobyte> Altenius: what card?
L1804[20:54:11] <Pwootage> ArchLinux (if you know how) is pretty quick, Ubuntu is super easy
L1805[20:54:31] <Pwootage> but graphics cards can certainly be a pain. Some obscure ethernet/wifi cards, too
L1806[20:54:32] <Kilobyte> mint is better than ubuntu though
L1807[20:54:35] <Altenius> Kilobyte, GT 750M SLI (Although SLI didn't effect it)
L1808[20:54:42] <Pwootage> I havn't tried mint, it looks good enough
L1809[20:54:58] <CompanionCube> brb
L1810[20:54:58] <Altenius> I had to add a kernel parameter
L1811[20:55:00] <Kilobyte> my general experience: Nvidia cards have awesome support
L1812[20:55:06] <Kilobyte> if you got AMD... RUN
L1813[20:55:15] <Altenius> Well, mine didn't for some reason
L1814[20:55:20] <Kilobyte> Altenius: which drivers
L1815[20:55:34] <Altenius> Proprietary
L1816[20:55:38] <Kilobyte> that should work
L1817[20:55:43] <Altenius> yeah
L1818[20:55:46] <Altenius> It's working now >_>
L1819[20:55:51] <Kilobyte> odd
L1820[20:55:51] <Altenius> It worked with noveau
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L1822[20:56:06] <Kilobyte> that one is rather unstable though
L1823[20:56:13] <Altenius> I don't know if the kernel paremeter is helping though, I was probably being stupid.
L1824[20:56:26] <Altenius> That was when I knew nothing about linux/unix/posix.
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L1826[20:56:55] <Kilobyte> which one?
L1827[20:56:55] <Pwootage> DId you have too new of the proprietary driver? Nvidia likes to drop card support
L1828[20:57:00] <Altenius> (I still don't know much, but I know more)
L1829[20:57:22] <Kilobyte> Pwootage: arch always has latest version for most part
L1830[20:57:31] <Pwootage> My MB on my home desktop needed some noacpi kernel params to get the install disk to boot, don't have them on my actual install though
L1831[20:57:37] <Pwootage> Kilobyte: it has a couple of old version s too
L1832[20:57:44] <Kilobyte> ej
L1833[20:57:57] <Altenius> rcutree.rcu_idle_gp_delay=1 is the parameter
L1834[20:58:01] <Kilobyte> i need the 'nomodeset' kernel param or it freezes on boot
L1835[20:58:39] <Altenius> Without that it freezes with xorg starts
L1836[20:58:47] <Altenius> And my computer turns of within 25 seconds
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L1843[21:10:54] <Pwootage> oh I forgot to ask, was any more discussed about scala but native while I was gone?
L1844[21:14:42] <Altenius> Pwootage, no
L1845[21:15:32] <Pwootage> :(
L1846[21:15:35] <Pwootage> :P
L1847[21:16:07] <Ender> .news
L1848[21:16:16] <Ender> k, that doesnt do anything. good
L1849[21:21:24] <Altenius> Oh cool, Clion has a "Rearrage code" option. I hope this doesn't screw up my project.
L1850[21:21:56] <Altenius> I don't know what it does, but it's taking a long time to finish.
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L1852[21:22:01] *** Cruor is now known as Cruor|Away
L1853[21:22:45] <Kilobyte> you know whats fun?
L1854[21:22:58] <Kilobyte> a superflat world where top layer is obsidian with redstone torches below
L1855[21:23:07] <Kilobyte> place tnt -> instaignites
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L1857[21:23:14] zsh sets mode: +v on EnderBot2
L1858[21:23:27] <Ender> .news
L1859[21:23:28] <EnderBot2> Ender is currently working on making me better so yay, I guess. As for anything else that might be news that's not me.
L1860[21:23:28] * EnderBot2 shrugs
L1861[21:23:42] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles EnderBot2
L1862[21:23:42] * EnderBot2 is wondering why DeanIsaKitty is hugging him....
L1863[21:24:02] <Ender> yeah, this is why i wanted it to whois everyone when it joins
L1864[21:24:23] <Ender> DeanIsaKitty, say something in chat then try hugging again
L1865[21:24:32] <DeanIsaKitty> k
L1866[21:24:40] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles EnderBot2
L1867[21:24:40] * EnderBot2 hugs DeanIsaKitty
L1868[21:24:44] <DeanIsaKitty> \o/
L1869[21:24:50] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Ender
L1870[21:25:04] * Ender cuddles DeanIsaKitty
L1871[21:25:12] <Ender> :O i need to put my cuddle command on here
L1872[21:26:06] * Ender cuddles DeanIsaKitty
L1873[21:26:07] <Ender> \o/
L1874[21:26:08] <Ender> done
L1875[21:26:22] <DeanIsaKitty> \o/
L1876[21:27:59] <Ender> I wonder where lizzy is, she likes to appear for a day or two then disappear for a week
L1877[21:28:02] <Ender> oh wow
L1878[21:28:05] <Ender> speak of the angle
L1879[21:28:08] <Ender> er
L1880[21:28:10] <Ender> angel
L1881[21:28:14] <Lizzy> lol Ender
L1882[21:28:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy! \o/
L1883[21:28:28] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, \o/
L1884[21:28:33] <Kilobyte> sup
L1885[21:28:35] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Lizzy
L1886[21:28:40] * Lizzy cuddles DeanIsaKitty
L1887[21:29:07] <Kodos> Lolol, got a free big mac at mcdonald's today
L1888[21:29:21] <Lizzy> Kilobyte, is "my energy levels" a valid answer? :D
L1889[21:29:34] <Kilobyte> possibkly
L1890[21:29:39] <Lizzy> kewl
L1891[21:29:52] * Ender cuddles DeanIsaKitty & Lizzy
L1892[21:30:01] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Ender & Lizzy
L1893[21:30:02] * Lizzy snuggles Ender
L1894[21:30:09] * Lizzy cuddles DeanIsaKitty
L1895[21:30:37] <Kilobyte> group cuddling :D
L1896[21:30:41] * Kilobyte hides
L1897[21:30:42] <DeanIsaKitty> :D
L1898[21:30:53] <Ender> Kilobyte, that happens a lot with us three
L1899[21:30:58] <Lizzy> ^_^
L1900[21:31:01] <Kilobyte> i... understand...
L1901[21:31:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Ender: *four
L1902[21:31:13] * Kilobyte slaps his dirty mind
L1903[21:31:13] * EnderBot2 laughs
L1904[21:31:23] <Lizzy> shhh, shadow doesnt need to know :P
L1905[21:31:47] <Ender> i wonder.... hmm
L1906[21:31:50] <DeanIsaKitty> Why not? :P
L1907[21:32:21] * Ender goes to note down something to put in EnderBot3 under the "sarcasm" section
L1908[21:33:09] <Altenius> Wtf, this drawing library hates me. I can't figure out how to copy a context so I don't have to render fonts each frame.
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L1911[21:39:04] <Altenius> ohey look, it werked.
L1912[21:40:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Just got reminded of the CS class where we had a first look at Java. One of the first things we had to do was write a Fibonnaci funtion. In the time it took the others in my class to write it in Java, I got it working in Java and wrote it in Assembler too because I got bored. :D
L1913[21:40:59] <Altenius> Now maybe I can speed up OCEmulator by 20,000%!
L1914[21:42:01] <Pwootage> how slow is OCEmu D:
L1915[21:42:31] <Pwootage> My favorite version of Fibonacci is tail-recursive
L1916[21:42:49] <Altenius> The rendering is extremely slow right now, but after I fix that I'll be motivated to finish the components :D
L1917[21:44:12] <Stary2001> DeanIsaKitty: LOL
L1918[21:44:41] <TabletCube> DeanIsaKitty: why u no write raw opcodes m8
L1919[21:45:06] <Altenius> lul
L1920[21:45:23] <Pwootage> private def _fib(n: Int, a: Int = 1, b: Int = 1, i: Int = 3): Int = if (i > n) b else _fib(n, b, a + b, i + 1)
L1921[21:46:47] <TabletCube> Pwootage: bad code imho. Descriptive naming ftw
L1922[21:47:11] <Pwootage> yeah, that particular implementation was designed that way :P
L1923[21:47:35] <Pwootage> because n, a, b, and i are not particularly descriptive parameter names
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L1925[21:58:11] <Kodos> http://imgur.com/gallery/2Tw2O6V
L1926[21:59:21] <Pwootage> sorry but tl;dr ;D
L1927[22:00:58] <Kodos> It's okay, you probably wouldn't understand it anyway
L1928[22:02:00] <Pwootage> looks like binary decoding from my initial glance, not impossible
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L1930[22:14:46] <Lizzy> Right, I'm off for the night
L1931[22:15:07] <Ender> Goodnight, Lizzy
L1932[22:15:22] * Lizzy kisses Ender
L1933[22:15:28] <Lizzy> Night :)
L1934[22:15:44] <Ender> :)
L1935[22:20:36] <DeanIsaKitty> you two :D
L1936[22:21:44] *** prassel|off is now known as prasselpikachu
L1937[22:23:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Anyway, I'm off too.
L1938[22:24:57] * DeanIsaKitty kisses Ender on the cheek
L1939[22:25:14] <Ender> :)
L1940[22:25:33] *** DeanIsaKitty is now known as DeanIsGone
L1941[22:29:06] <Altenius> So far GPU is being (a lot) fast in OCEmulator
L1942[22:34:17] <Ender> Ima go to sleep
L1943[22:34:36] <Pwootage> Altenius: I'd ask what your IPS is, but that doesn't make sense in Lua :P
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L1945[22:40:02] <Pwootage> PotatoTrumpet: WAS GOOD EPISODE
L1946[22:40:11] <PotatoTrumpet> TOLD YOU
L1947[22:40:13] <Pwootage> Altenius: I want to try this emu out sometime... would be convenient, I think
L1948[22:40:40] <Pwootage> Uh, will in PM in case of spoilers...
L1949[22:41:30] * PotatoTrumpet has taken over #ocmasterrace on esper
L1950[22:41:41] <Pwootage> heh
L1951[22:42:02] <LordFokas> now invite amanda :p
L1952[22:44:23] <PotatoTrumpet> Lol
L1953[22:44:28] <PotatoTrumpet> Should I?
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L1955[22:45:31] <PotatoTrumpet> I invited!
L1956[22:45:33] * PotatoTrumpet waits
L1957[22:48:55] <LordFokas> oh man!
L1958[22:49:12] <LordFokas> you should have let me join cc first to look for a reaction
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L1960[22:50:04] <PotatoTrumpet> LordFokas: Could you type in #computercraft "LOLOLOL #OCMASTERRACE FTW"
L1961[22:50:09] <PotatoTrumpet> I don't want to get banned
L1962[22:50:20] <LordFokas> lol
L1963[22:50:26] <LordFokas> I don't think so
L1964[22:50:29] <LordFokas> :p
L1965[22:50:36] <Altenius> Get a bot and spam it.
L1966[22:50:51] * LordFokas looks at Ender and v^
L1967[22:51:00] <Altenius> I spammed something on this channel once and got Wired2Coffee banned. I somehow screwed up OpenIRC client.
L1968[22:51:12] <Altenius> And it spammed random stuffz
L1969[22:51:12] <PotatoTrumpet> That was you?
L1970[22:51:19] <PotatoTrumpet> 0_)
L1971[22:52:00] <ds84182> t-t
L1972[22:52:20] <ds84182> Altenius, can has sourc?
L1973[22:52:34] <Altenius> ds84182, It's on github but I'm making some adjustments.
L1974[22:52:58] <Altenius> vifino/OCEmulator
L1975[22:53:19] <Pwootage> What's required to compile?
L1976[22:53:36] <ds84182> oh, based off of that
L1977[22:53:37] <ds84182> oh
L1978[22:53:43] <Altenius> It says on the github
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L1980[22:53:53] <Altenius> https://github.com/vifino/OCEmulator
L1981[22:53:54] <Pwootage> but that means I have to go look up the github :(
L1982[22:54:00] <Pwootage> or click the link :(
L1983[22:54:08] <Altenius> lol
L1984[22:54:29] <Altenius> gtkmm 3.0, boost, lua5.2, unifont needs to be installed in fonts.
L1985[22:54:57] <ds84182> and qt?
L1986[22:54:57] <Altenius> About the unifont thing, Pango doesn't have a way to load a font from file (Which is really annoying)
L1987[22:54:59] <Altenius> no
L1988[22:55:01] <Altenius> Dropped qt.
L1989[22:55:08] <ds84182> well
L1990[22:55:17] <Altenius> Also, linux only.
L1991[22:55:18] <ds84182> was cmake dropped
L1992[22:55:21] <Altenius> no
L1993[22:55:24] <ds84182> damn.
L1994[22:55:48] <Altenius> Why?
L1995[22:56:08] <ds84182> ihatecmake
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L1997[22:56:18] <Altenius> What do you prefer?
L1998[22:56:26] <Altenius> It's the best build system imo
L1999[22:56:30] <ds84182> ever since I tried to compile something for the wii and it just went and compiled for host instead
L2000[22:56:39] <ds84182> i like regular make
L2001[22:56:42] <Altenius> er
L2002[22:56:44] <Altenius> no
L2003[22:56:56] <ds84182> gnu make
L2004[22:57:10] <Altenius> CMake makes a Makefile y'know.
L2005[22:57:13] <PotatoTrumpet> I like cake
L2006[22:57:32] <ds84182> Altenius, I know, but having to go through cmake making me a make file
L2007[22:57:34] <ds84182> is just
L2008[22:57:35] <ds84182> like
L2009[22:57:36] <ds84182> hell
L2010[22:58:02] <ds84182> plus cmake does this dumb compiler check that doesn't fucking work when you target another platform
L2011[22:58:09] <ds84182> and it continues to do so
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L2015[23:06:36] <Caitlyn> Kodos, alive?
L2016[23:08:02] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/ck4UL/a09f8d28a9.jpg You asked about purple
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L2018[23:13:24] <Pwootage> I have never tried cmake, and I only barely know basics of make
L2019[23:13:25] *** justastranger|zzz is now known as justastranger
L2020[23:15:35] <Pwootage> (from a writing Makefile point of view, not from a "I type make -j4 && make install" point of view
L2021[23:15:58] <Pwootage> s/.*/$1)/
L2022[23:16:01] <Pwootage> aw
L2023[23:16:42] <Altenius> CMake isn't that bad..
L2024[23:16:45] <Altenius> it's just "cmake ."
L2025[23:17:09] <Pwootage> I mean writing cmake's configuration files
L2026[23:17:13] <Pwootage> or whatever
L2027[23:17:22] <Kodos> Caitlyn, actually I asked about using two light blocks, one red, one blue, to 'mix' the light into purple
L2028[23:17:26] <Kodos> But that looks good :3
L2029[23:17:28] <Altenius> Writing the files is easy.
L2030[23:17:36] <Altenius> It's a hell of a lot shorter than Makefile
L2031[23:17:46] <Pwootage> I bet
L2032[23:19:37] <Caitlyn> Kodos, http://puu.sh/ck5Gi/e75056a229.jpg
L2033[23:20:07] <Pwootage> So what's up with all this colored light?
L2034[23:20:29] <Caitlyn> Colored Lights.
L2035[23:20:43] <Pwootage> A mod I presume? What version of MC?
L2036[23:20:45] <Kodos> Is that right one blue or purple
L2037[23:20:50] <Caitlyn> right is blue
L2038[23:21:04] <Caitlyn> Pwootage, yeah it's a 1.7.10 mod
L2039[23:21:24] <Caitlyn> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/1446134-1-7-10-beta-colored-light-api-mod-writers-can
L2040[23:21:28] <Pwootage> How'd you pull that off? Last I checked that was a pretty serious internal render-rewrite
L2041[23:21:30] <Caitlyn> I'm adding support to OpenLights
L2042[23:21:38] <Caitlyn> I didn't
L2043[23:22:45] <PotatoTrumpet> Caitlyn: can you make a disco block?
L2044[23:22:50] <PotatoTrumpet> I want a disco block
L2045[23:23:03] <PotatoTrumpet> MAKE ME A DISCO BLOCK
L2046[23:23:10] <Caitlyn> In theory yes, I can also set your computer on fire...
L2047[23:23:11] <Caitlyn> :P
L2048[23:23:14] * Kodos turns PotatoTrumpet into a disco block
L2049[23:23:17] <PotatoTrumpet> :D
L2050[23:23:19] <Kodos> There, I made you a disco block
L2051[23:23:22] *** PotatoTrumpet is now known as DisocPotato
L2052[23:23:26] <DisocPotato> Ahem
L2053[23:23:35] <Caitlyn> I've gotta figure out how to do some fancy math though..
L2054[23:23:44] <Pwootage> looks like it's pretty hacky yeah
L2055[23:23:45] <Kodos> In other news, I had a fun HQM pack idea
L2056[23:23:57] <Caitlyn> cause the API I'm using requires the light level and atleast ONE of the color levels to be the same
L2057[23:24:05] <DisocPotato> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCEQyCkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DdQw4w9WgXcQ&ei=fZlFVPbrF4e4yQSRoYGwDg&usg=AFQjCNG7el8GOsX8SUPmhUksMRzOa9FzwQ&sig2=8N__ZstoLa6nxcowxxw1BQ&bvm=bv.77880786,d.aWw
L2058[23:24:17] <Caitlyn> so RGB 15,0,0 wants Light 15, but 10,4,9 wants 10
L2059[23:24:33] * DisocPotato starts dancing
L2060[23:24:39] <Caitlyn> which would have to override the set light level :/
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L2067[23:39:18] *** kirby|Gone is now known as mrkirby153
L2068[23:40:00] <mrkirby153> test
L2069[23:41:41] <mrkirby153> Why is everyone trying to rickroll this channel lately?
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L2071[23:45:01] <PotatoIsaKitty> My Ananconda don't
L2072[23:46:56] *** PotatoIsaKitty is now known as OCMASTERRACE
L2073[23:47:33] *** OCMASTERRACE is now known as PotatoTrumpet
L2074[23:47:51] *** PotatoTrumpet is now known as OCMasterrace
L2075[23:47:58] <OCMasterrace> Mwhaha
L2076[23:48:53] *** prasselpikachu is now known as prassel|off
L2077[23:48:53] <Altenius> Yes! GPU is A LOT faster now! (Just no palettes yet)
L2078[23:49:15] <OCMasterrace> :D
L2079[23:49:19] <OCMasterrace> Congratz
L2080[23:49:24] <Altenius> dnak
L2081[23:50:03] <Altenius> Now I just need to test it.
L2082[23:51:57] <Pwootage> Hm, the screen buffer is going to be interesting in sor1k
L2083[23:52:15] <Pwootage> since OC supports 1, 4, and 8 bit color I think
L2084[23:52:19] <Altenius> eh
L2085[23:52:25] <Altenius> My emulator support 24bit atm.
L2086[23:53:21] <Pwootage> yeah the difference is the screen buffer is just a chunk of ram in sor1k :P
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