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L2[00:00:45] <Kodos> What thing
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L6[00:06:08] <gamax92> Kodos: the cipher
block
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L8[00:09:49] <gamax92> blame v^
L11[00:11:12] <v^> comcast
L12[00:11:32] <v^> its been fucking
terrible lately
L13[00:11:44] <gamax92> v^: v^exatos
L14[00:11:47] <gamax92> blame vexatos
L15[00:11:53] <gamax92> god dammit
vexatos
L16[00:12:05] <v^> .openprhg
L17[00:12:05] <gamax92> just because you
can't do something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
L18[00:12:07] <v^> .openprg
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L21[00:31:44] <TabletCube> Cya
L22[00:32:24] <gamax92> <_)M<
L24[00:38:30] <v^> so my english
class
L25[00:38:38] <v^> they played a shit video
in one of the lessons
L28[00:53:43] <TabletCube> v^: Sieg
Grammar!
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L34[01:21:41] <ShadowKatStudios> .tell
Ender is your magic winderps installer TuxPE by any chance?
L35[01:21:41] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
Message queued.
L36[01:26:43] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: did you read all his shit?
L37[01:27:01] *
TabletCube knows what tuxpe is
L38[01:30:13] <TabletCube> Slle
L39[01:30:20] <TabletCube> sleepy nao
L40[01:38:05] <v^> <_> still
wondering why the power supplied to house outlets is AC
L41[01:38:44] <v^> having it rectified in
the fusebox or something would be nice
L42[01:40:36] <ShadowKatStudios>
TabletCube: I did.
L43[02:03:30] <SpiritedDusty> I still
haven't coded anything with OC after being with it for 10
months
L44[02:05:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Argh, OK,
14 hours. My eyes must really suck , it's already hard to tell the
difference between ,s and .s
L45[02:07:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Caffine to
the rescue! *slams down glass*
L46[02:07:28] <SpiritedDusty> *glass
shatters into eyes*
L47[02:07:45] <ShadowKatStudios> *goes and
gets another glass full of coke*
L48[02:09:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Seriously
though, SpiritedDusty, you should totally write some code. It's
either fun if it works or a good challenge if it doesn't.
L49[02:10:53] <SpiritedDusty> hm. maybe
I'll write a #include program that compiles things into 1
script
L50[02:11:04] <SpiritedDusty> or does that
already exist?
L51[02:11:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm not
aware of one.
L52[02:11:35] <SpiritedDusty> off to coding
I guess :P
L53[02:11:56] *
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L55[02:36:36] <ShadowKatStudios> So in
other news, I've fixed up the hostnames on my network
L56[02:38:43] <Potato|Away> Buenas Noches,
Hasta Manana
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L59[02:44:29] <dangranos> xchat is
bitch
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L62[02:46:04] <dangranos> hello
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L64[02:53:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Side note:
FF not having more complex search algorithims for my history is a
bitch, I want to find a google search following a 4chan
thread
L65[02:54:52] <Ir7_o> Are any admins
around?
L66[02:54:54] <Ir7_o> Sangar?
L67[02:58:51] <Ir7_o> I will say it in
advance. My hosting service will be upgrading the server's port to
1Gbps. This means migrating the server location (hard-drive) and
could take up to 3 days. This means 3 days down time on the
server
L68[03:06:57] <ShadowKatStudios> oshite,
but cool
L69[03:16:26] <Ir7_o> (Sangar: the server
IP will also be changing because of this. As soon as I know it, I
will forward it to you)
L70[03:30:39] <ShadowKatStudios>
Compressing files to .tar.gz with a read speed of 64KiB/s. Kill me
now.
L71[03:42:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Iiin other
news, I have the go-ahead to run this computer 24/7 :D
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L74[04:01:32] <SpiritedDusty> Ir7_o, the
server wasn't 1Gbps? I thought it was
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L78[04:37:40] <Ir7_o> It was, then it went
down, now, its going up.... :/
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L82[04:58:25] *
Vexatos throws gamax92 away
L83[04:59:29] <Vexatos> gamax92: Stop
crashing Computronics in ways that should not happen
L84[04:59:31] * v^
throws Vexatos at gamax92
L85[05:00:13] <Vexatos> This doesn't make
any sense :|
L86[05:00:33] *
Vexatos blames asie although he knows that it is not asie's fault
either
L87[05:00:48] <Vexatos> I'm starting to
think that gamax' MC instance is broken :P
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L89[05:08:23] <Vexatos> I don't even know
what that crash is
L90[05:08:29] *
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L91[05:08:30] <Vexatos> No wait
L92[05:08:35] *
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L93[05:15:15] <dangrano1> :O
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L95[05:15:23] <dangrano1> new animator vs
animation
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L99[05:59:24] <DeanIsaKitty> o/
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L101[06:00:04] <skyem123> Boo
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L105[06:51:16] <dangrano1> uh
L106[06:51:22] <dangrano1> anyone
here?
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L119[07:54:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Ir7_o: I
approve of your date formatting. little-endian ftw
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L126[08:04:20] <iceman11a> I have a pc
monitoring 2 TE Cells. When I do a components list and i see 2
cells listed. The problem is they both have the same name and
different ID's. Can I give each one a name and relate the code to
the name.
L127[08:05:38] <Vexatos> Yes
L128[08:05:45] <Vexatos> .w
component
L130[08:05:57] <Vexatos> .w component
api
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L133[08:06:30] <Vexatos> Use
component.proxy(address)
L134[08:06:33] <Vexatos> So
L135[08:06:41] <Vexatos> local cell1 =
component.proxy(address1)
L136[08:06:47] <Vexatos> local cell2 =
component.proxy(address2)
L137[08:06:51] <Vexatos> Then you have
both cells
L138[08:06:53] <Vexatos> in cell1 and
cell2
L139[08:07:05] <Vexatos> iceman11a
L140[08:08:34] <Ender> Ir7_o, cool
L141[08:08:41] <iceman11a> Cool, so what
your saying is that I can name them using the ID numbers and the
relate my code to the names I choose. Like cell1 and cell2 and so
on
L143[08:08:58] <Ender> "From
ShadowKatStudios: is your magic winderps installer TuxPE by any
chance?" Errr, wat?
L144[08:09:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
(Warning, massive image)
L145[08:09:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Ender:
You remember you said you had that disc that let you install any
Winderps 7 version without keys or anything?
L146[08:10:14] <Ender> yes, cant remember
name of it. hold on lemme get disk
L147[08:11:27] <iceman11a> DO I have to
run this every time with my code. Or does it only have to run one
time.
L148[08:11:50] <Vexatos> Well, you assign
the cell to a variable
L149[08:11:57] <asie> ShadowKatStudios:
Link to thread?
L150[08:12:28] <ShadowKatStudios> asie:
The thread I found that picture in 404'd a while ago
L151[08:13:05] <iceman11a> Right, That
part I get. I mean do I have to add that line with the id of the
cell I want to use in my code. or do I just run this at the prompt
only one time.
L152[08:13:12] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: I
now want to buy a gensokyo domain
L153[08:13:50] <ShadowKatStudios> asie:
I'm intending to map my network similarly, and I already have
anime-related hostnames, as you know.
L154[08:14:05] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: I
would do that too but I don't have enough machines
L155[08:14:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Though
my 'network map' will probably end up as a photo of a
whiteboard
L156[08:14:49] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
literally going to pull out all the computers I can find in order
to boost the number of servers I have on my network.
L157[08:15:04] <ShadowKatStudios> I have 4
XP boxes sitting next to me, arch linux methinks
L158[08:15:28] <ShadowKatStudios> I also
have several unused laptops
L159[08:15:29] <asie> i need to finish my
DIYstro one day
L160[08:16:09] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
installing to VM because i cant see much just by browsing the
source files
L161[08:16:33] <Vexatos> iceman11a: I'd do
it at the start of your coed
L162[08:16:34] <Vexatos> code*
L163[08:18:28] <iceman11a> ok, that's what
I wanted to know, Thanks
L164[08:18:50] <iceman11a> I wish there
was an easy way to copy the id of the components
L165[08:26:15] <Vexatos> There is
L166[08:26:17] <Vexatos> I think
L167[08:31:18] <iceman11a> Is there a way
to tell witch cell is witch. ? if I see that right
L168[08:31:55] <iceman11a> I was thinging
that I still have no idea witch component is witch component
L169[08:32:56] <iceman11a> I mean is that
in the components list. It doesn't tell me what cell is where so I
don't get them mixed up. So I don't set the alarm off for the wrong
cell
L170[08:34:09] <Vexatos> well, try
it
L171[08:34:21] <Vexatos> check the power
level on one cell
L172[08:34:44] <Vexatos> Just make sure
both cells have different power levels
L173[08:34:46] <iceman11a> lol, I was just
about to run the program when I thought of the idea is that I don't
know what cell is where. ?
L174[08:34:57] <iceman11a> Oh, ok
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L178[08:42:42] <iceman11a> is this the
right way to code this
L179[08:42:44] <iceman11a> local cell1 =
component.proxy("15bf6f8619dc4d9b91157db7b8a3de4c")
L180[08:42:44] <iceman11a> local cell2 =
component.proxy("d76d31f08dda416d99277b57c6d4eda8")
L181[08:43:21] <iceman11a> I checked the
id numbers and they are correct. I get a nil value returned.
L182[08:43:53] <iceman11a> do I have ot
add the - to the id's or ?
L183[08:44:37] <Vexatos> No you
don't
L184[08:44:45] <Vexatos> The first 3
characters of the ID should suffice
L185[08:45:11] <iceman11a> Oh, so I just
use the 1st 3. That makes it easy.
L186[08:46:03] <iceman11a> nope. it keeps
returning a nil
L187[08:46:42] <Vexatos> You sure you did
local component = require("component") before?
L188[08:47:45] <iceman11a> Yes
L189[08:47:49] <iceman11a> at the
top
L190[08:48:44] <iceman11a> should it be
this local cell1 = component.proxy("15b") or this local
cell1 = component.proxy(15b)
L191[08:49:28] <Vexatos> It's a
string
L192[08:49:33] <Vexatos> so the quotes are
needed
L193[08:50:11] <iceman11a> Ok, so that is
right. so why does it return a nil value.
L194[08:50:28] <iceman11a> could the cell
be empty or some thing
L195[08:52:41] <Vexatos> No
L196[08:52:50] <Vexatos> Are you sure they
are connected?
L197[08:55:17] <iceman11a> Yes I am, They
show up in the components list
L198[08:56:31] <iceman11a> Ok, I'm getting
a nil value returned on both cells and I know one of them has
power
L199[08:59:00] <iceman11a> ok, so I;m
confused why this hould work and it doesn't
L200[08:59:05] <Vexatos> Power level
should not matter
L201[08:59:09] <Vexatos> I am confused as
well
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L203[09:02:02] <Vexatos> Could you try
this instead:
L204[09:02:19] <Vexatos> local cell1 =
component.proxy(component.get("15b"))
L205[09:04:42] <ShadowKatStudios> So
borderlands 2 refuses to go into an inactive workspace
L206[09:04:47] <iceman11a> that works,
thanks
L207[09:05:16] <Vexatos> iceman:
coponent.proxy apparently needs the full address then
L208[09:05:24] <Vexatos> you might have
made a type somewhere
L209[09:05:39] <Vexatos> component.get
gives you the full address from the 3 characters
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L214[09:29:14] <kuya> hello, im new to oc,
what would i look up to deal with inserting and removing items from
slots of a block?
L215[09:29:32] <Vexatos> .w inventory
controller
L217[09:30:05] <kuya> perfect thanks
L218[09:30:11] <kuya> so i would need a
robot?
L219[09:30:19] <Vexatos> Yes
L220[09:30:32] <iceman11a> Is this the
right way to setup a redstone io block
L223[09:32:02] <Vexatos> Heh
L224[09:32:05] <Ender> \o/ got phone
tethering to tablet
L225[09:32:11] <Vexatos> Noice
L226[09:33:07] <Vexatos> kuya: Do you have
OpenComponents installed?
L227[09:33:14] <Vexatos> If you do, you
will not need a robot
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L229[09:33:30] <Vexatos> then you can
access inventories by placing an adapter next to them
L230[09:33:42] <kuya> yes i do
L231[09:33:49] <kuya> oh neat
L232[09:33:59] <kuya> thanks Vexatos
L233[09:35:06] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm off
to sleep. o/
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L235[09:35:21] <iceman11a> wow, I just got
up.
L236[09:35:56] <SKS-Away> iceman11a: You
quickly learn that the internet isn't one timezone
L237[09:36:26] <iceman11a> lol, never
mine, you didn't get it
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L240[09:37:58] <Ender> I should implement
a time command into EnderBot2 that sends back the time at GMT0
(Sanger said to use that for #oc time)
L241[09:38:36] <Vexatos> I'd use the
UST
L242[09:38:42] <Vexatos> Universal Swatch
Time
L243[09:38:52] <Ender> Eh?
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L247[09:40:38] <Ender> DeanIsaKitty
\o/
L248[09:40:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Ender
\o/
L249[09:42:39] <Ender> I think I am going
to write more of my story
L250[09:42:47] <DeanIsaKitty> yay :D
L251[09:43:03] <Vexatos> Ender: Make moar
video :3
L252[09:43:09] <Vexatos> xD
L253[09:43:11] <Vexatos> wait
L254[09:43:16] <Vexatos> more story?
L255[09:43:17] <Vexatos> Nevermind
L256[09:43:20] <Vexatos> MORE STORY!
L257[09:43:56] <Ender> Vexatious, the
video is coming. Not in college yet
L258[09:46:36] <Vexatos> Heeehehe
L259[09:46:41] <Vexatos> So part 1 of the
thing
L260[09:46:54] <Vexatos> Ender: Go write
more story :P
L261[09:47:10] <Ender> Yeah, well,
introduction
L262[09:47:14] <Vexatos> Yes indeed
L263[09:49:30] <Ender> In the next chapter
I release I break the 4th wall quite a bit
L264[09:50:04] <Vexatos> Do you walk
through it
L265[09:50:08] <Vexatos> appear behind my
back
L266[09:50:13] <Vexatos> and throw kittens
at me?
L267[09:50:22] <Ender> No
L268[09:50:22] <Vexatos> (There are far
too many kittens in this channel)
L269[09:51:05] <Ender> Hmm, what timeline
to do....
L270[09:51:23] <Vexatos> the fourth
L271[09:51:25] <Vexatos> xD
L272[09:51:50] <Ender> I have to create
another one? :/
L273[09:51:54] <Ender> :P
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L275[09:53:22] <iceman11a> If I place a
redsone IO Block down in front on me, Does that mean I'm facing the
front of it.
L276[09:53:57] <iceman11a> or the back of
it
L277[09:54:15] <Vexatos> You should be
facing the front
L278[09:54:23] <Vexatos> Better try
it
L279[09:57:56] <iceman11a> if I'm looking
at it after I place is down. If I put a cable on the left side if
the block. tern a redstone signal on it should turn on a
lamp.
L280[09:58:24] <iceman11a> That's not
working as for my setup in the photo's above
L281[09:59:22] <Vexatos> Try all possible
side
L282[09:59:25] <Vexatos> sides*
L283[10:04:17] <iceman11a> hmm, That's
strange. I tried the front and that worked. So I thing some thing
is right. That means when I place a block down. The front is on the
left
L284[10:05:10] <iceman11a> right
*wrong
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L292[10:25:24] <kuya> are there docs for
open components?
L293[10:25:41] <DeanIsaKitty> .w
L295[10:25:45] <DeanIsaKitty> kuya:
^
L296[10:26:15] <kuya> thats for open
computers.. not components no?
L297[10:26:36] <DeanIsaKitty> What kind of
docs would you want?
L298[10:28:07] <kuya> i want to interact
with a chest, i can see the function names to do it, but i dont
know the arguments
L299[10:28:11] <kuya> where would i look
them up?
L300[10:28:58] <DeanIsaKitty> There is
sadly no doc for that (yet)
L301[10:29:12] <Vexatos> Unless Sangar
added ingame documentation to OCC
L302[10:30:31] <Ender> as soon as YT wants
to process the video i'll send a link to it
L303[10:30:38] <kuya> err so what do i do?
:)
L304[10:31:00] <DeanIsaKitty> kuya: Trial
and Error :)
L305[10:31:16] <Vexatos> Yes
L307[10:31:23] <Vexatos> It will error if
the parameter is of a wrong type
L308[10:31:31] <Vexatos> Like,
"string expected, got number"
L309[10:31:33] <DeanIsaKitty> \o/
L310[10:31:34] <Vexatos> kuya ^
L311[10:31:52] <kuya> aha thanks
L312[10:32:35] <kuya> even betterer: just
read the java
L313[10:32:38] <iceman11a> I fount a bug,
where do I report it at
L314[10:32:52] <Vexatos> That voice,
Ender
L315[10:32:54] <Vexatos> that voice
L316[10:33:18] <Ender> Vexatos: eh?
L317[10:33:21] <Vexatos> 360p :O
L318[10:33:28] <Vexatos> Ender: I like the
voice :P
L319[10:33:30] <Ender> it should be
1080p
L320[10:33:33] <Ender> Vexatos: :)
L321[10:33:53] <Vexatos> Then I'll wait 30
minutes
L322[10:33:56] <Ender> wtf youtube
L323[10:34:02] <Vexatos> for derptube to
finish processing
L324[10:34:10] <Vexatos> That means it
didn't finish processing the video yet
L325[10:34:20] *
Ender stabs YT
L326[10:34:24] <Vexatos> Just wait 20
minutes
L327[10:34:29] <Ender> it said it finished
¬_¬
L328[10:34:34] <Ender> YT y u lie?
L329[10:34:43] *
Ender stabs YT, again
L330[10:34:55] <Vexatos> May I spam the
link around when YT un-derps itself
L331[10:34:56] <Vexatos> :3
L332[10:35:40] <Ender> sure
L333[10:36:49] <Vexatos> Ender: Should set
up a playlist
L334[10:37:13] <Ender> Vexatos: they're in
one
L335[10:37:19] <Vexatos> Okay
L336[10:37:24] <Ender> well
L337[10:37:27] <Ender> it's in one
L338[10:37:29] <Ender> :P
L339[10:39:26] <Vexatos> Now just wait for
YT to finish processing
L341[10:40:12] <Vexatos> Ender
L342[10:40:16] <Vexatos> "Add a
message to your video"
L344[10:40:25] <Vexatos> You should maybe
edit your comment
L345[10:40:29] <Vexatos> underneath the
video
L346[10:40:44] <Vexatos> as well as add a
proper thumbnail
L347[10:41:24] <Ender> ahh, i'll do a
thumbnail late
L348[10:41:48] <Vexatos> just pick a
random frame of the video
L349[10:42:05] <Sangar> o/
L350[10:42:14] <Vexatos> But you should
really edit that comment underneath the video, Ender :3
L351[10:42:20] *
Vexatos blames Sangar
L352[10:42:33] *
Sangar doesn't feel guilty
L353[10:42:36] <Vexatos> Sangar: You don't
have any documentation on OpenComponents
L354[10:42:39] <Vexatos> Neither in
game
L355[10:42:43] <Vexatos> nor in the
wiki
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L357[10:43:06] <Vexatos>
<kuya>
are there docs for open
components?
L358[10:43:07] <Vexatos> :3
L359[10:43:08] <Sangar> Vexatos, ingame:
yes there is. there was some missing but i added that a few days
ago.
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L361[10:43:16] <Vexatos> Ah okay :P
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L363[10:43:36] <Sangar> (most notably for
the vanilla stuff like IInventory :P)
L364[10:44:08] <Vexatos> is IInventory
driver disabled by default?
L365[10:44:13] <Sangar> no
L366[10:44:17] <Vexatos> Should be
L367[10:44:28] <Sangar> only getting stack
info is
L368[10:45:12] <Sangar> why? it basically
allows inventories to be used like robots' internal inventory,
which i think is ok? it doesn't allow ejecting or inserting items
after all.
L369[10:45:21] <Vexatos> Yea
L370[10:45:24] <Vexatos> But still
L371[10:45:28] <Vexatos> It's cheaty
L372[10:45:42] <Vexatos> For things like
the railcraft blocks I add drivers to
L373[10:45:47] <Vexatos> because they can
be locked
L374[10:45:54] <Vexatos> and the driver
ignores such locks
L375[10:46:08] <Sangar> ah, that's a
different issue then, though
L376[10:46:46] <Sangar> is there a generic
way to check for permissions to interact with inventories, though?
the interact event i tried for robots didn't seem to do much.
L377[10:49:37] <Vexatos> I think there
is
L378[10:49:44] <Vexatos> But for
ISidedInventory only
L379[10:49:46] <Vexatos> not sure
though
L380[10:52:03] *
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L381[10:54:37] <Sangar> hmm. if those
inventories return false for non-allowed players in
'isUseableByPlayer` that might work by just passing
`[OpenComputers]` as the player name or something.
L382[10:55:06] <Sangar> i'll add that real
quick, then you can test with that and tell me if it works
L383[10:56:29] <Sangar> urgh, it needs a
fake player. time for occ to get its own.
L384[10:59:12] <kuya> is stack reading
disabled by default?
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L386[11:02:41] <Vexatos> Sangar: cann it
bob
L387[11:03:02] <Vexatos>
"tile.isUsableByPlayer(OpenComponent.bob)"
L388[11:03:10] <Vexatos>
OpenComponents*
L389[11:03:22] <Sangar> :P
L390[11:03:37] <Sangar> kuya, yes. at
least i think so.
L391[11:04:25] <kuya> what are we talking
about
L392[11:04:33] <kuya> i like the
positivity tho
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L395[11:07:51] <ShadowKatStudios> .j
OpenPrinter
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L402[11:13:28] -Kibibyte- [Vexatos] [Enderverse]
Computer Enabled Rail Network: Introduction | by thatjgr33n |
10m24s | 42m39s ago | 9 views | Rated:
5.00/5.00
L403[11:13:47] <asie> Vexatos: CERN?
L404[11:14:04] <Vexatos> Yep
L405[11:14:05] <Vexatos> CERN
L406[11:15:36] <Vexatos> asie, actually
Computronics Operated Neat Computer Enabled Rail Network
L407[11:17:48] *
kuya scratches
L408[11:17:59] <kuya> is the examining
stacks config option off by default?
L409[11:18:32] <asie> yes
L410[11:18:38] <asie> for reasons
L411[11:18:57] <kuya> fair enuff
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L413[11:22:41] <kuya> hrm
L414[11:23:27] <kuya> i dont think i can
automate this QED thing then
L415[11:25:14] <Sangar> Vexatos, try
latest occ build, see if that behaves better
L416[11:29:10] <Vexatos> Hey Ender
:P
L417[11:29:13] <Vexatos>
Forecaster
> he says "um" a lot :P
L418[11:29:16] <Vexatos> xD
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L426[12:27:28] <skyem123> boo
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L432[12:36:03] <skyeIsaKitty> mew
L433[12:36:20] *
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L434[12:36:21] <skyeIsaKitty> mew
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L436[12:41:46] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty
\o/
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L438[12:46:10] <skyeIsaKitty> mew?
L439[12:46:36] *
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L440[12:46:49] <vifino> I like Dean
:o
L441[12:46:58] <vifino> He is always nice
:o
L442[12:47:13] <Ender> Back
L443[12:47:24] *
skyeIsaKitty jumps onto Ender's shouldetr
L444[12:47:45] <skyeIsaKitty>
s/shouldetr/shoulder
L445[12:47:45] <Kibibyte> * skyeIsaKitty
jumps onto Ender's shoulder
L446[12:47:49] <skyeIsaKitty> mew!
L447[12:47:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm off
o/
L448[12:47:59] <vifino> Bai
ShadowKatStudios o/
L449[12:48:15] <Ender> Goodbye,
DeanIsaKitty
L450[12:48:23] <skyeIsaKitty>
noooooooooooooooo
L451[12:48:34] *
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L457[12:50:29] <Ender> Whoops
L458[12:50:29] <Ender> Just realised I did
wrong nick, ohh well
L459[12:50:29] <Ender> Also, Vexatious I
edited that default comment
L460[12:51:02] *
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L461[12:51:40] <skyeIsaKitty> mew
L462[12:55:24] *
skyeIsaKitty is bored
L463[12:55:48] *
Ender is putting laptops in lptop
L464[12:55:58] *
Ender is putting laptops in laptop cabinets
L465[12:56:53] <Vexatos>
* Ender is
putting laptops in lptop
L466[12:56:57] <Vexatos> >ception
L467[12:57:19] <skyeIsaKitty> <
universe implodes >
L468[12:57:24] <skyeIsaKitty> gj
L469[12:57:32] *
Ender reboots universe
L470[12:57:43] <skyeIsaKitty> <
universe is corrupted >
L471[12:57:57] <Ender> That's normal
L472[12:58:03] <skyeIsaKitty> :O
L473[13:00:07] <skyeIsaKitty> <
universe is hungry >
L474[13:00:54] <Daiyousei> < urmom is
hungry >
L475[13:00:59] <Daiyousei> jk
L476[13:01:00] <Daiyousei> \o
L477[13:01:08] <skyeIsaKitty> ...
L478[13:01:13] <Daiyousei> …
L479[13:01:17] *
skyeIsaKitty jumps onto Daiyousei's shoulder
L480[13:01:25] *
Daiyousei dodges
L481[13:01:28] *
skyeIsaKitty starts attacking
L482[13:01:36] <Daiyousei> miss!
L483[13:01:42] *
skyeIsaKitty attacks
L484[13:01:45] <Daiyousei> miss!
L485[13:01:49] <Daiyousei> im high up in
the air
L486[13:01:50] *
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L487[13:02:05] <skyeIsaKitty> oh...
dear....
L488[13:02:11] *
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L490[13:02:32] <Ender> Vexatious, video
1080p now?
L491[13:02:33] <skyem123> bye!
L492[13:02:38] <Ender> Tablet please
L494[13:02:54] <Vexatos> Ender: I think
so
L495[13:03:02] <Vexatos> btw, that does
not ping me
L496[13:03:02] <Ender> Ok cool
L497[13:03:13] <Vexatos> Well, it does
now
L498[13:03:38] <Ender> Vexatious, was
tablet autocorrecting it after I tab complete
L499[13:03:41] <Ender> ¬_¬
L500[13:03:44] <Ender> Meh
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L503[13:04:14] <Vexatos> suuure
L504[13:04:21] <Vexatos> That was the
third time today you called me that
L505[13:05:04] <Ender> Tablet you will
learn his name
L506[13:05:11] <Ender> Vexatious
L508[13:05:30] <Vexatos> That pings me now
<3
L509[13:05:44] <Ender> Meh
L510[13:05:45] <Ender> :P
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L521[14:28:09] <skyeIsaKitty> mew
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L524[14:46:36] <Magik6k> hai all
L525[14:46:47] <Magik6k> is oetf page
still in-dev
L526[14:47:29] *
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L527[14:49:04] <CompanionCube> Magik6k,
What did you plan to do?
L528[14:49:40] <Magik6k> something like
p2p internel
L529[14:49:46] <Magik6k> *internet
L530[14:49:54] <CompanionCube> how would
it work?
L531[14:50:49] <Magik6k> you would be able
to send data to any network card(cable,wireless,this apired thing)
in network
L532[14:51:11] <Magik6k> it would be self
routing, and generally pretty complicated
L533[14:51:13] <CompanionCube> so
basically a routing protocol
L534[14:51:47] <Magik6k> yes, a very very
complicated routing protocol
L535[14:52:06] <Magik6k> +deamon
specification
L536[14:52:36] <Magik6k> and maybe some
higher-level protocol(like TCP)
L537[14:53:21] <CompanionCube> why would
it need to be extremely complicated?
L538[14:54:18] <Magik6k> Cuz I've
tried(twice) to make network routable through almost all kinds of
stuff and both attempts failed
L539[14:54:45] <Magik6k> but by
complicated I meant complicated to invent and maybe
understand
L540[14:55:29] <Ender> I think complex is
the word your looking for
L541[14:56:19] <Magik6k> Ender: possible
:D
L542[14:56:54] <CompanionCube> Magik6k,
Just remember KIS. You do not always need 100% of features to work
100% of the time.
L543[14:57:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Packet
switching is actually pretty easy, especially over such a
sophisticated communication system like OC has Magik6k
L544[14:57:11] <gamax92> Vexatos: hey
veeeeeeeeeeeex
L545[14:57:28] <Ender> No, its
Vexatious
L546[14:57:34] <gamax92> Remember that
thing you said doesn't exist Vexatos?
L547[14:57:55] <Vexatos> Yes
L548[14:58:05] <gamax92> Vexatos: good,
because it happened again, and on 1.1.0
L549[14:58:07] <Vexatos> The thing that
only crashes for you and I cannot reproduce, you mean?
L550[14:58:12] <gamax92> yes
L551[14:58:17] <Magik6k> CompanionCube:
yes, but I wouldn't call getting a 10 duplicated packets a feature
;p
L552[14:58:20] <Vexatos> and noone else so
far could reproduce
L553[14:58:37] <gamax92> Vexatos: so that
means you're just gonna pretend it doesn't exist?
L554[14:59:02] <Ender> gamax92, he can't
fix a bug he can't reproduce
L555[14:59:06] <Vexatos> It means you have
reported two crashes
L556[14:59:11] <Vexatos> That only
happened to you so far
L557[14:59:21] <Vexatos> Ender: Try
opening the cipher block GUI
L558[14:59:31] <Vexatos> See if the server
/client log sais ANYthing
L559[14:59:34] <Ender> Vexatious, would if
I couood MC
L560[14:59:36] <gamax92> fff really you
can't do the cipher block?
L561[14:59:43] <gamax92> it fucking
crashed Ender's server
L562[14:59:44] <gamax92> twice
L563[14:59:49] <Vexatos> It works for
me
L564[14:59:52] <vifino> gamax92:
hey.
L565[14:59:54] <gamax92> on opening the
gui
L566[14:59:55] <Vexatos> I tried
L567[14:59:56] <Vexatos> Yep
L568[14:59:59] <gamax92> and removing the
block
L569[15:00:02] <Vexatos> Breaking the
block works as well
L570[15:00:04] <Vexatos> just fine
L571[15:00:12] <Ender> gamax92, did it?
Lemme go see if I can cat logs
L572[15:00:15] <gamax92> >_> I DID
IT IN SINGLE PLAYER
L573[15:00:21] <gamax92> AND IT FUCKING
CRASHED
L574[15:00:22] <Vexatos> The crash means
it is calling a method that doesn't exist
L575[15:00:25] <Vexatos> in a
superclass
L576[15:00:28] <Vexatos> but it does
exist
L577[15:00:33] <gamax92> Vexatos: FIX YOUR
SHIT
L578[15:00:38] <Vexatos> Are you sure your
asielib isn't malformed
L579[15:00:49] <gamax92> Vexatos: well, it
is from Ender's pack.
L580[15:01:17] *
skye|away is tired
L581[15:01:25] <Ender> Vexatious, if you
want to check the jar it's in the mincraft folder of my site
L582[15:01:34] <Vexatos> which site
L583[15:01:39] <Ender>
Thereunder.net
L584[15:01:43] <Ender> ¬_¬
L585[15:01:45] <Ender> My IRC host
L586[15:01:50] <Ender> Hostname*
L587[15:01:57] <Vexatos> theender.net
:3
L588[15:02:05] <Ender> Yes
L589[15:02:36] <Vexatos>
theenderversereloaded.7z?
L590[15:02:45] <CompanionCube> ono
L591[15:02:50] <Vexatos> Ender ^
L592[15:02:50] <gamax92> thats outdated
iirc
L593[15:02:54] <CompanionCube> my brother
has defiled this house with the xbox one
L594[15:02:57] <Ender> No, in the
/minecraft/mods
L595[15:03:22] <Vexatos> ah
L596[15:03:41] <Ender> I do plan to
restructure my site at someoiint
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L598[15:06:14] <Vexatos> I see
L599[15:06:15] <Vexatos> HAHAHA
L600[15:06:19] <Vexatos> what the fudge is
that
L602[15:06:41] <Vexatos> Okay, this is
weird
L603[15:06:53] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L604[15:06:57] <Ender> Have I got a
malformed jar?
L605[15:07:23] <Vexatos> No
L606[15:07:30] <Vexatos> asie: I found
something
L607[15:07:31] ***
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L608[15:07:38] <Vexatos> public ItemStack
func_70301_a(int slot)
L609[15:07:38] <Vexatos> {
L610[15:07:38] <Vexatos> if
(this.isLocked) {
L611[15:07:38] <Vexatos> return
null;
L612[15:07:38] <Vexatos> }
L613[15:07:38] <Vexatos> return
super.getStackInSlot(slot);
L614[15:07:42] <Vexatos> }
L615[15:07:48] <Vexatos> It apparently
gets obfuscated, but the super call doesn't
L616[15:07:58] <asie> oh yes
L617[15:08:00] <Ender> lol
L618[15:08:03] <asie> I thought i fixed
that
L619[15:08:08] <Vexatos>
.----------------.
L620[15:08:12] <Vexatos> That is inside
computronics
L621[15:08:14] <asie> in... 0.3.1...
well...
L622[15:08:16] <Vexatos> How do I fix
it
L623[15:08:19] <Vexatos> Nono
L624[15:08:21] <Vexatos> asielib is
fine
L625[15:08:21] <asie> make TileMachine
implement ISidedInventory
L626[15:08:22] <asie> that's about
it
L627[15:08:24] <asie> in AsieLib
L628[15:08:25] <asie> yes, in
AsieLib
L629[15:08:26] <Vexatos> Okay
L630[15:08:28] <Vexatos> Aah
L631[15:08:29] <Vexatos> ok
L632[15:08:30] <asie> recompile
AsieLib
L633[15:08:33] <asie> then recompile
Computronics
L634[15:08:36] <asie> if it works, send me
AsieLib 0.3.2
L635[15:08:40] <Vexatos> k
L636[15:08:55] <Vexatos> Now I need to fix
asielib
L637[15:09:27] <Vexatos> (I tried fixing
the key rendering crash gamax92 had, couldn't fix it since the
thing wasn't rendering at all >__>)
L638[15:09:55] <Vexatos> Because
apparently getArmorModel is never ever being called
L639[15:10:17] ***
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L640[15:12:00] <gamax92> Back, was setting
up hexchat
L641[15:12:04] <Vexatos> asie: But if it
implements ISidedInventory
L642[15:12:13] <Vexatos> doesn't every TE
in Computronics now have that
L643[15:12:14] <Vexatos> :|
L644[15:12:36] <asie> yes
L645[15:12:36] <asie> do it
L646[15:12:38] <asie> trust me
L647[15:12:40] <Vexatos> ok
L648[15:12:43] <gamax92> trust him
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L650[15:13:24] <gamax92> Wait what key
rendering crash?
L651[15:13:57] <Vexatos> you opening the
tape drive GUI
L652[15:14:23] <gamax92> When you say key
i was thinking of Nano's key
L653[15:14:25] <Vexatos> a crash that
should not have happened
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L655[15:14:29] <Vexatos> Yes, that
key
L656[15:14:39] <asie> Vexatos: Just remove
the key code
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L658[15:14:51] <gamax92> Then i am
confused.
L659[15:14:51] <Vexatos> asie: ALL the
code?
L660[15:14:53] <asie> All of it.
L661[15:14:55] <Vexatos> That's quite a
lot
L662[15:14:58] <asie> Not really.
L663[15:15:02] <asie>
pl.asie.lib.shinonome and some init code
L664[15:15:05] <Vexatos> everything in
/shinonome
L665[15:15:07] <asie> yup
L666[15:15:09] <asie> just kill it
L667[15:15:11] <Vexatos> and the packet
handler
L668[15:15:11] <gamax92> D: y
L669[15:15:14] <asie> JUST KILL IT
L670[15:15:15] <Vexatos> for NANO
L671[15:15:23] <gamax92> asie no pls
L672[15:15:24] <asie> It breaks Smart
Moving
L673[15:15:28] <Vexatos> "KILL IT
WITH FIRE"~mDiyo 2014
L674[15:15:36] <gamax92> Smart Moving
sucks anyway.
L675[15:16:47] <gamax92> Vexatos: wait ...
Was that actually caused by Nano's key or was that a joke.
L676[15:16:54] <gamax92> Because i did
have the key on at the time.
L677[15:17:21] <Vexatos> WHAT
L678[15:17:31] *
Vexatos died by sudden ragesplosion
L679[15:17:45] <Vexatos> You told me you
hadn't
L680[15:17:48] <Vexatos> and I was like
WHY
L681[15:18:02] <gamax92> When did I say
that, because it was probably unintentional
L682[15:18:04] <Vexatos> Well, just remove
all the code
L683[15:18:24] <Vexatos> asie: Should I
add porphyrion instead? Or should I not... :P
L684[15:18:55] <gamax92> I sorru?
L685[15:19:16] <asie> Vexatos: Oh
L686[15:19:17] <asie> In that case keep
it
L687[15:19:20] ***
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L688[15:19:24] <Vexatos> >__>
L689[15:19:28] <Vexatos> I already removed
half of it
L690[15:19:29] <asie> gamax92: Yes it was
caused by Nano's key
L691[15:19:31] <Vexatos> well, let's
revert
L692[15:19:34] *
gamax92 is quite confused
L693[15:19:44] <gamax92> k
L694[15:19:52] <Vexatos> Okay, asie: What
to do now
L695[15:19:59] <gamax92> fix key?
L696[15:20:01] <Vexatos> I can't get the
key to render at all
L697[15:20:58] <Ender> Nano's key makes
gamax92 crash when used on the Enderverse, Vexatos rages
L698[15:21:05] <gamax92> :P
L699[15:21:29] <Vexatos> seriously, It
cannot have happened
L700[15:21:38] <Vexatos> because the
method crashing is only called once in the code
L701[15:21:50] <Vexatos> and that's only
if the player's name is "asiekierka"
L702[15:22:11] <gamax92> fail string
compare?
L703[15:23:14] <Vexatos> return (entity !=
null && entity instanceof EntityPlayer &&
(SECRET_DEV_STUFF ||
entity.getCommandSenderName().equals("asiekierka")));
L704[15:23:41] <gamax92>
>SECRET_DEV_STUFF
L705[15:23:44] <gamax92> that
perhaps?
L706[15:23:46] <asie> yeah
L707[15:23:46] <asie> that
L708[15:23:48] <Vexatos> That is always
false
L709[15:24:15] <gamax92> i am such
confused the key is rendering in single player
L710[15:24:33] <gamax92> it is also
breaking the slot renders
L711[15:24:39] <gamax92>
yunoresetcolortowhite
L712[15:24:43] <Vexatos> asie: In my dev
environment, getArmorModel isn't ever called
L713[15:27:44] ***
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L714[15:28:46] <gamax92> Vexatos: i wonder
why you couldn't reproduce it as: 1208, Fresh downloaded AsieLib,
Computronics, and is now windows and not setup by me.
L715[15:28:49] <gamax92> and it
crashes.
L716[15:30:08] <Vexatos> I thought it just
spammed the console
L717[15:30:22] <gamax92> erm cipher
block
L718[15:30:33] <Vexatos> That one is fixed
now
L719[15:30:39] <gamax92> :D
L720[15:30:41] <Vexatos> it did not crash
because I tested in my dev environment
L721[15:30:49] <Vexatos> and it was an
obfuscation issue
L722[15:31:01] <Vexatos> aaasie
L723[15:31:02] <gamax92> Oh okay.
L724[15:31:06] <Vexatos> I have no clue
what to do now
L725[15:31:16] <Vexatos> I pushed all the
recent changes to asielib
L726[15:31:26] <Vexatos> and I still don't
know what isn't working
L727[15:31:34] <Vexatos> Also
L728[15:31:35] <Vexatos> private static
boolean isSpinning = false;
L729[15:31:41] <Vexatos> That's
static
L730[15:31:49] <Vexatos> which means it
applies to everyone having a key
L731[15:31:51] <Vexatos> asie ^
L732[15:32:00] <gamax92> private static
shat the whit?
L733[15:32:08] <asie> Vexatos: I
noticed
L734[15:32:13] <asie> That's what my patch
fixed
L735[15:32:15] <asie> but I never pushed
it
L736[15:32:19] <Vexatos>
>_________________________________>
L737[15:32:22] <asie> Nano's Key is only
in 0.3.1
L738[15:32:27] <Vexatos> please push
L739[15:32:27] <asie> so just keep it the
way it was in 0.3.0
L740[15:32:30] <asie> I can't
L741[15:32:35] <gamax92> You know what
happens when people don't see code?
L742[15:32:37] <asie> All my repo is
literally <================= HEAD
L743[15:32:38] <gamax92> Dot tunnels
L744[15:32:42] <gamax92> XD
L745[15:32:47] <asie> I can't even read it
anymore
L746[15:32:51] <asie> I think I don't even
have the folder anymore!
L747[15:32:52] <gamax92> asie: XD
L748[15:32:58] <gamax92> oh god.
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L750[15:33:30] <Vexaton> Stupid hexchat
crash again, I missed everything after Vexatos>
and I'll merge the fixes in :(
L751[15:33:31] <gamax92> Vexaton: oh also
Waila was saying Tape Drive was <ERROR>
L752[15:33:32] ⇦
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L754[15:34:54] <Vexatos> gamax92: Will
fix
L755[15:35:04] <Vexatos> asie: Could you
give me the fixed files
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L758[15:35:43] <gamax92> oops
L759[15:38:19] <asie> Vexatos: I don't
have them
L760[15:38:30] <asie> If you really want
them Fernflower the mod
L761[15:38:38] <gamax92> Why
fernflower
L762[15:38:44] <asie> or something
else
L763[15:38:44] <gamax92> i thought
procyon
L764[15:38:48] <asie> procyon is better i
guess
L765[15:39:02] <gamax92> i need to update
my procyon
L766[15:39:44] <Vexatos> I don't
"really want them"
L767[15:39:49] <Vexatos> I want gamax92 to
not crash
L768[15:39:56] <Vexatos> I guess I'll just
remove the nano key item
L769[15:39:59] <Vexatos> will fix it
L770[15:40:13] <Vexatos> right, asie?
:P
L771[15:40:38] <gamax92> Vexatos: What if
i write the nano key, but because i wrote it/it will likely not
crash for what ever is crashing it now.
L772[15:41:01] <Vexatos> What?
L773[15:41:04] *
Vexatos is confused
L774[15:43:00] <Vexatos> asie: may I
remove the key item
L775[15:43:17] <gamax92> Free the key
foundation
L776[15:43:43] <CompanionCube> lol
L777[15:43:54] <CompanionCube> >needs
you to accept agreeemnt
L778[15:43:59] <gamax92> We donate $15.10
per month to the Free the key (asie) foundation
L779[15:44:21] <CompanionCube> >doens't
provide 'I agree' button or 'read agreement' button
L780[15:44:36] <gamax92> :P
L781[15:44:47] <gamax92> I've actually had
a program do that
L782[15:44:59] <CompanionCube> gamax92,
it's for an assignment due in ~15 minutes.
L783[15:45:09] <gamax92> you had to scroll
down through the entire text before the buttons appeared
L784[15:45:38] <CompanionCube> gamax92,
the text that says 'before you can submit your work, you must agree
to the agreement'
L785[15:45:48] *
gamax92 stabs CompanionCube
L786[15:45:49] <CompanionCube> It doesn't
provide you with a method of accepting said agreement.
L787[15:45:55] <gamax92> let me have
happyness
L788[15:45:58] <Ender> lol
L789[15:45:58] <CompanionCube> or even
reading it.
L790[15:46:06] <gamax92> Vinesauce
L791[15:46:10] <gamax92> Vinny x
Joel
L792[15:46:19] <Daiyousei> Joel
L793[15:46:21] <gamax92> All the
fanfiction
L794[15:46:36] <Daiyousei>
oh
god
L795[15:46:41] <Daiyousei> and rev
L796[15:47:58] <gamax92> i haven't watched
much of rev's
L797[15:48:08] <gamax92> Mainly
vinny
L798[15:48:48] <CompanionCube> >it uses
popups
L799[15:48:49] <CompanionCube>
POPUPS
L800[15:49:11] <Kodos> Forums are down for
maintenance?
L801[15:49:15] <gamax92> what about
popunder
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L803[15:49:22] <gamax92> Sangar: pls
explain
L804[15:49:34] <Ender> Kudos, yes
L805[15:49:46] <Ender> Kodos &
L806[15:49:49] <Ender> **
L807[15:49:58] <CompanionCube> gamax92,
popups get blocked by chromium
L808[15:50:03] <CompanionCube> the site
doesn't say it uses popups
L809[15:50:04] <Ender> Ir7_o said about
them going down
L810[15:50:05] <gamax92> CompanionCube:
but popunder?
L811[15:50:34] <Ender> Anyway,
sometime
L812[15:50:50] <gamax92> Sandwich isn't
here is he?
L813[15:51:34] <stuferus> hi, as the
website is down atm, whats the changes of 1.3.5 or where can i find
a changelog of 1.3.5 please?
L814[15:51:57] <gamax92> umm
L816[15:52:49] <stuferus> thank you very
much. bye :)
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L818[15:53:01] <Kodos> I want a laser
component
L820[15:53:14] <Daiyousei> gg
L821[15:53:23] <gamax92> Daiyousei: i gave
him what he wanted
L822[15:53:28] <gamax92> not what would
have been best
L823[15:53:35] <Daiyousei> a dong?
L824[15:53:40] <gamax92> besides
that
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L827[16:01:21] <dangranos> Hi
L828[16:03:50] <Vexatos> gamax92: Updating
waila integration right now
L829[16:03:57] <Vexatos> asie: Should I
remove the nano key item?
L830[16:04:02] <Vexatos> to fix the bug
:P
L831[16:04:16] <gamax92> Vexatos: why not
move the code so its just dead code?
L832[16:04:26] <Vexatos> Which code
L833[16:04:29] <gamax92> the key
stuff
L834[16:04:33] <Vexatos> I could just
remove it
L835[16:04:42] <gamax92> but, that would =
sad.
L836[16:04:44] <Vexatos> it will forever
stay in git history anyway
L837[16:04:49] <gamax92> oh right
L838[16:04:52] <gamax92> okay just remove
it
L839[16:05:56] <CompanionCube> can't
history be rewritten? ;p
L840[16:07:40] <Vexatos> Oooooh
L841[16:07:44] <Vexatos> I haz idea for
computronics
L842[16:07:47] <Vexatos> NEI
integration:
L843[16:08:10] <Vexatos> press U for a
block/item to find out what methods to call on its component
:3
L844[16:08:16] <Vexatos> What methods it
has got
L845[16:08:23] <Vexatos> And their
documentation
L846[16:08:41] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L847[16:08:51] <Vexatos> that'll be hard
to do without all the crap OC is already doing
L848[16:12:35] <Vexatos> Sangar: What do
you think about that
L849[16:14:43] <Sangar> you mean the
docstrings in a custom usage screen?
L850[16:14:53] <Vexatos> Yep
L851[16:14:54] <Vexatos> That would be
MUCH easier for you to add, as you already do all the
find-drivers-and-callback-methods crap
L852[16:15:05] <Sangar> hmm.
L853[16:15:06] <Vexatos> (config option
huzzah!)
L854[16:15:19] <Vexatos> But a nice NEI
screen with a scoll bar
L855[16:15:25] <Vexatos> Could be pretty
awesome
L856[16:15:36] <Vexatos> (And you already
know how to do scroll bars)
L857[16:15:48] <Sangar> problem is kinda
that an environment has to be created for that, which can have side
effects :/
L858[16:16:32] <Vexatos> Actually
not
L859[16:16:34] <Vexatos> get method
L860[16:16:36] <Vexatos> get
annotation
L861[16:16:37] <Vexatos> get doc
L862[16:16:44] <Vexatos> I think
L863[16:16:46] <Sangar> but the method is
in the env, not the driver
L864[16:17:12] <Vexatos> ?
L865[16:17:16] <Vexatos> If you have a
driver class
L866[16:17:46] <Vexatos> You somehow need
to get the callback methods of that class
L867[16:17:57] <Sangar> @Callbacks are in
envs, not drivers
L868[16:18:01] <Vexatos> Ah right
L869[16:18:06] <Vexatos> That's true
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L871[16:27:50] <Ender> Back home
L872[16:29:50] ***
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L874[16:30:08] <gamax92> Ender: Fly! Fly
with your wings
L875[16:30:35] <Vexatos> gamax92: I might
have fixed asielib and computronics
L876[16:30:42] <gamax92> Vexatos:
okay
L877[16:30:43] <Vexatos> You will need to
test Waila integration
L878[16:30:48] <Vexatos> and the two bugs
you had
L879[16:30:57] <Ender> I don't have wings,
I have tentacles. Lizzy has wings
L880[16:31:09] <gamax92>
s/Ender/Lizzy/
L881[16:31:09] <Kibibyte> <gamax92>
Lizzy: Fly! Fly with your wings
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L883[16:31:53] <Lizzy> I'm quite happy
just sitting here thank you
L884[16:32:01] <gamax92> D:
L885[16:32:01] *
Ender cuddles Lizzy
L886[16:32:04] <gamax92> PLAN B
L887[16:32:07] *
Lizzy cuddles Ender
L888[16:32:18] *
gamax92 ready's a bazooka
L889[16:32:31] <Ender> glhf
L890[16:32:45] *
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at herself and rocket jumps
L894[16:33:40] <gamax92> R.I.P
sangar
L895[16:34:45] <gamax92> bai
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L897[16:37:49] <Vexatos> Sangar: I might
just add that NEI integration for computronics only :3
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L899[16:38:16] <Vexatos> Or is there any
place you are storing all the possible environments
L900[16:38:39] <Sangar> Vexatos, how about
an interface in 1.4 that can be slapped onto drivers to explicitly
support his? (with a method that returns the class of the env or
something)?
L901[16:38:56] <Vexatos> IDocumented
L902[16:39:11] <Vexatos> public Class<?
extends Environment> getEnvironmentClass()
L903[16:39:15] <Vexatos> Like that
L904[16:39:15] <Sangar> because right now
it won't work for blocks at all, since they need a block in the
world to create an env
L905[16:39:23] <Sangar> yeah, something
like that
L906[16:39:27] <Vexatos> That sounds
fine
L907[16:39:35] <Vexatos> Then just cal
getEnvironmentClass
L908[16:39:38] <Vexatos> call*
L909[16:39:41] *
Sangar adds it to the 1.4 list
L910[16:39:49] <Vexatos> getMethods and
annotation stuffery
L911[16:39:53] <Vexatos> get method
name
L912[16:39:55] <Vexatos> annotation
doc
L913[16:39:57] <Vexatos> done \o/
L914[16:40:06] <Sangar> aye
L915[16:40:10] <Vexatos> Do not forget to
make it a config option
L916[16:40:16] <Vexatos> But I think that
is a really good idea
L917[16:40:31] <Vexatos> Should it be a
scroll bar
L918[16:40:39] <Vexatos> or those
right-left arrow buttons NEI usually has
L919[16:40:48] <Sangar> i guess pages
would be easier
L920[16:41:02] <Vexatos> Yea
L921[16:42:43] <Vexatos> gamax92: You want
to test?
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L927[16:57:35] <gamax92> back
L928[16:57:59] <gamax92> Vexatos: that
depends on if my father gets off the computer
L929[16:58:03] <Vexatos> :P
L930[17:00:16] <gamax92> someone should
make a mod to disable block textures
L931[17:00:38] <gamax92> because why
not
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L933[17:01:36] <Vexatos> Missing Texture
mod!
L934[17:03:25] <gamax92> :P yes
L935[17:03:29] <gamax92> so much yes
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L940[17:14:25] <mentlerd> Sangar: Was it
you who wrote me an email about Hybrid (my lua implementation)
about a year ago?
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L943[17:21:07] <Sangar> mentlerd, uhm, i
think i did mail you once, yeah
L944[17:21:57] <mentlerd> well, I sorted
out most of the things that were distracting me
L945[17:22:13] <mentlerd> and decided to
give Hybrid another go
L946[17:22:18] <mentlerd> but this time
with a goal,.
L947[17:22:42] <mentlerd> so, I would like
to know what features it would need to be a transparent replacement
to JNLua
L948[17:23:43] <Sangar> oh, nice! well,
the one thing is persistence, which, as long as threads aren't used
for coroutines (like luaj does it) should be relatively easy
(relatively). the other thing to serve as a full replacement would
be memory limits, which would be a lot... messier at the least, i
imagine.
L949[17:24:19] <mentlerd> yeah, I have
been thinking about it
L950[17:24:32] <mentlerd> one thing that I
am concerned about is yields
L951[17:24:50] <mentlerd> I mean, there
are no methods that take advantage of coroutines being real Java
threads right?
L952[17:26:05] <Sangar> in oc? no. exactly
because that couldn't be persisted (i.e. yields being suspended
threads)
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L954[17:26:56] <mentlerd> there are cases
where this is not really obvious
L955[17:27:06] <mentlerd> like, does JNLua
support yields trough metamethods?
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L958[17:27:19] <Vexatos> Now wait for new
computronics to build
L959[17:27:22] <mentlerd> because that is
one tough thing to implement
L960[17:27:37] <mentlerd> otherwise
serialisation is pretty straightfoward as you said
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L962[17:28:09] <Sangar> mentlerd, ah, you
mean yield on whats now the java side vs the c side? that's not
used at all. and there are also no vm -> java -> vm
cases
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L964[17:28:36] <gamax92> My bouncer's
backlog is missing atm, what is Hybrid?
L965[17:28:44] <Sangar> so yielding will
only happen when no java stuff in on the callstack
L966[17:28:50] <Sangar> *is
L967[17:29:09] <mentlerd> there might be
because of the engine implementation
L968[17:29:10] <Negi> \o/ I have
survived.
L970[17:29:23] <mentlerd> I mean, in some
lua versions, yielding is forbidden while in metamethod
calls
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L972[17:29:36] <gamax92> ooh okay
L973[17:29:42] <Sangar> sure, in general
this can happen, i'm just saying it won't in oc
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L975[17:30:08] <mentlerd> so is it fine if
yielding just fails when this happen? how does JNLua act in this
case?
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L977[17:30:40] <Sangar> jnlua has some
special handling for yielding on the java side, but i'm not quite
sure how it works, because i haven't used it.
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L980[17:33:14] <mentlerd> regarding the
memory limit issue
L981[17:33:31] <mentlerd> as far as I see,
it comes down to being able to tell how much memory each lua table
uses
L982[17:34:03] <Sangar> tables and
coroutines as the non-trivial cases, basically, yeah.
L983[17:34:47] <mentlerd> as far as I see
it does not need to be really precise about how much memory it
consumes right? just a way to limit overallocation
L984[17:35:02] <gamax92> is Hybrid a
replacement for LuaJ?
L985[17:35:11] <mentlerd> yes
L986[17:35:15] <gamax92> Ahh nice!
L987[17:35:18] <mentlerd> I made it
originally for computercraft
L988[17:35:20] <gamax92> because LuaJ is a
mess.
L989[17:35:36] <mentlerd> Hybrid has
'real' coroutines, that do not exist as Java threads
L990[17:35:41] <Sangar> yeah, some
approximation would be fine; some more tricky parts could be memory
used by closures when they share their bytecode?
L991[17:36:03] <Vexatos> mentlerd: Is
Computercraft using it?
L992[17:36:40] <mentlerd> No. They did not
cooperate with me, and in fact changed their API to take advantage
that coroutines are threads
L993[17:36:55] <Sangar> (since the memory
allocated for functions can vary wildly based on their
complexity)
L994[17:37:01] <mentlerd> so yeah, they
pretty much let me work on it about a half year before telling me
they won't use it
L995[17:37:29] <Vexatos> I figured
L996[17:37:37] <Vexatos> because
Computercraft is.... not that good :3
L997[17:37:47] <mentlerd> Sangar: not sure
what you mean by that
L998[17:38:27] <mentlerd> memory usage of
closures essentially come down to their ENV upvalue tabla
L999[17:38:29] <mentlerd> *table
L1000[17:38:35] <gamax92> even in luaj
itself, OC has fixes for some stupidity of luaj where CC dodged
fixing it by just doing tricks in bios.lua
L1001[17:38:36] <Sangar> mentlerd, hmm,
basically when a function is declared it has a prototype, right?
that contains the compiled bytecode for closures. so if there are
multiple closures sharing a prototype, it'd be overestimating a lot
if each is counted as the full size
L1002[17:39:04] <samis> bios.lua is so ew
as is the whole /rom/programs directory
L1003[17:39:05] <mentlerd> well,
prototypes are shared between machines?
L1004[17:39:14] <Vexatos> gamax92: Who
made those fixes for OC? :D
L1005[17:39:20] <Vexatos> xD
L1006[17:39:22] <gamax92> Meeeeeee
L1007[17:39:27] <Vexatos> Really?
L1008[17:39:29] <gamax92> yes
L1009[17:39:31] <Vexatos> I totally did
not know that
L1010[17:39:38] <gamax92> >_> who
were you thinking of
L1011[17:39:38] <Vexatos> xD
L1012[17:39:52] <gamax92> .-.
L1013[17:39:52] <Sangar> mentlerd, i'm
just wondering about how memory consumption for coroutines /
closures would best be... computed / estimated.
L1014[17:39:54] *
gamax92 is confused
L1015[17:39:57] *
Vexatos teaches gamax92 the meaning of the word
"sarcasm"
L1016[17:40:06] <gamax92> sarcasm does
not work over internet
L1017[17:40:53] <samis> it does
L1018[17:41:04] <samis> if you use /s or
<sarcasm></sarcasm>
L1019[17:41:15] <Sangar> mentlerd, maybe
a prototpe cache per state, that's taken into account when
computing the state's "memory consumption" and ignore the
prototypes when counting actual cloures?
L1020[17:41:20] <mentlerd> hmm, yeah
since Lua 5.2, there is no such thing as a 'real' gloval
table
L1021[17:42:06] <mentlerd> with weak
references? that might work
L1022[17:42:44] <Sangar> yeah. maybe use
google caches which have an onRemoval callback iirc
L1024[17:42:56] <Vexatos> That's
computronics
L1025[17:43:22] <mentlerd> an other
problem is that you obviously need some way to cache the memory
consumption
L1026[17:43:58] <Sangar> aye
L1027[17:44:17] <mentlerd> a possible way
that came to my mind is to make a wrapper object for each
datatype
L1028[17:44:22] <mentlerd> (Hybrid
currently does not have this)
L1029[17:44:31] <mentlerd> and use
finalize() ?
L1030[17:44:40] <Sangar> aye, i thought
of that, too
L1031[17:44:41] <mentlerd> and just track
the allocation of new instances
L1032[17:45:10] <mentlerd> also guys I
hope you are not upset about all the technical talk :D
L1033[17:45:28] <Ender> mentlerd, Tis
fine
L1034[17:45:55] <Sangar> that'd have to
trigger object's __gc though, which, in lua, may
"resurrect" the value. and then finalize() is not called
a second time iirc, so either more memory is used than being
tracked, or... it just won't be reliable :/
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L1036[17:47:11] <mentlerd> you cannot
really do anything from finalise afaik, from that point the object
will get deleted whatever you do
L1037[17:47:16] <mentlerd> might be wrong
about this tough
L1038[17:47:37] <Vexatos> IIRC finalize()
tells the java GC to om nom nom that object
L1039[17:47:38] <mentlerd> also luaj does
not have support for __gc anyway, so it won't break much of the
scripts out there already
L1040[17:47:39] <Sangar> i'm not quite
sure on how the java gc behaves there, too :P
L1041[17:47:50] <Vexatos> So whenever the
GC runs the next time
L1042[17:47:53] <Vexatos> it's gone
L1043[17:48:01] <mentlerd> afaik
finalize() cannot really be called by you, it is just a
notification before GC
L1044[17:48:36] <gamax92> D: Buildcraft
code is horrifying to look at.
L1045[17:49:03] <gamax92> The GC calls
finalize, you don't call it.
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L1048[17:49:40] <Sangar> "In short,
it is possible and completely legal in Java to resurrect objects in
finalizers -- to bring them back to life by making them referenced
again."
L1049[17:51:45] <mentlerd> how about just
not supporting the __gc metamethod at all?
L1050[17:52:23] <mentlerd> finelizers
might not get called immediatelly, but you could always force a gc
cycle if you had to when you hit the memory limit
L1051[17:52:37] <Sangar> hmm, if it
really has to be... i don't know if any programs use this; oc uses
it in one or two places, to close file handles and to close sockets
iirc
L1052[17:53:54] <Sangar> would kinda suck
for those to not get closed automatically (as is the case in the
luaj fallback, obviously, but well, that's just a fallback
:P)
L1053[17:54:49] <Vexatos> This would be
just a fallback anyways
L1054[17:54:51] <mentlerd> haha
L1055[17:55:53] <mentlerd> why? I think
it could serve as a complete replacement for JNLua if we can get
the memory issue sorted out
L1056[17:55:54] <Sangar> Vexatos, good
point. it wouldn't have to fully replace the natives when they're
available after all. it'd still be infinitely better as a fallback
than the luaj fallback :D
L1057[17:56:41] <Sangar> well, the gc
thing is one example where it'd be more limited?
L1058[17:56:43] <mentlerd> well, I might
be wrong on that one, but I think the mod does not get the
attention it deserves beacuse of the required natives
L1059[17:57:05] <Vexatos> Sangar: I'd
only use that as a fallback
L1060[17:57:12] <Vexatos> and still being
better than LuaJ
L1061[17:57:37] <Sangar> well, it'd be at
least *very* realistic to have people just disable the natives if
they prefer the pure java implementation then.
L1062[17:58:01] <Sangar> also, i'm not so
sure the natives have much of an impact. in the beginning there was
some talk about it, but that has died down since, from what i can
tell.
L1063[17:58:12] <Vexatos> Well
L1064[17:58:16] <Vexatos> MC uses
OpenGL
L1065[17:58:28] <Vexatos> I guess that's
enough said
L1066[17:58:43] <Sangar> doesn't really
compare ;)
L1067[17:58:48] <mentlerd> not at all?
you cannot really make OpenGL execute arbitary code with
overflows
L1068[17:59:00] <mentlerd> while with
lua, you can totally do that
L1069[17:59:04] <Vexatos> If you try hard
enough :P
L1070[17:59:15] <mentlerd> I have doubts
:D
L1071[17:59:28] <Vexatos> Still
L1072[17:59:49] <Vexatos> It's a freaking
lua library
L1073[17:59:52] <mentlerd> In OC you
don't have access to OpenGL functions directly
L1074[18:00:37] <mentlerd> Sangar: well,
__gc is not completely out of the question
L1075[18:00:46] <mentlerd> as far as the
engine can be sure the object won't get resurrected
L1076[18:00:49] <Sangar> the main valid
argument against natives are *potential* security issues, though
i'm pretty confident in the sandbox at this point :P
L1077[18:00:59] <mentlerd> so file
streams could be closed there, but I would not let users script
__gc
L1078[18:01:08] <Vexatos> Sangar: *cough
kilobyteOC fork cough*
L1079[18:01:31] <mentlerd> modpack devs
may not be sure :P
L1080[18:01:44] <Sangar> mentlerd, well
the whole os including that file handle handling is user script, so
:P
L1081[18:02:33] <Sangar> (virtual file
handle, but still)
L1082[18:02:54] <Vexatos> mentlerd: I
know 6 mod packs using OC
L1083[18:02:59] <Vexatos> none of those
have it turned off
L1084[18:03:35] <mentlerd> then help me
out, i want to mess around with it but I am lazy to set it up
correctly :D
L1085[18:03:43] <mentlerd> so I would
just rather use a pack
L1086[18:03:45] <Vexatos> Bevo's Tech
Pack
L1087[18:03:49] <Vexatos> I recommend
that
L1088[18:03:59] <Vexatos> It's only for
somewhat decent computers, though
L1089[18:04:00] <gamax92> The
OpenComputers pack, it has opencomputers in it.
L1090[18:04:06] <gamax92> and thats
it
L1091[18:04:07] <Vexatos> gamax92: It
does?
L1092[18:04:10] <Vexatos> :O
L1093[18:04:18] <Vexatos> The Enderverse
:23
L1094[18:04:19] <gamax92> no, it actually
has a retextured ComputerCraft
L1095[18:04:25] <Vexatos> Ah okay
L1096[18:04:28] <Vexatos> Fair
enough
L1097[18:04:33] <Vexatos> I guess OC was
too expensive
L1098[18:04:45] <Sangar> the main point
for me is that right now the lua in oc is 100% standard compliant,
since it uses the official lua implementation, and i really like
that. openos goes to lengths to reimplement standard libraries in a
standard conformant manner. so stuff like __gc missing would irk me
quite a bit :/
L1099[18:04:47] <gamax92> oh and the
recipes have been changes.
L1100[18:04:52] <gamax92> so they are
harder than CC
L1101[18:05:03] <gamax92> .l 64 * 9
L1102[18:05:03] <^v> gamax92, 576
L1103[18:05:12] <gamax92> it needs 576
diamond blocks per T1 computer
L1104[18:05:39] <mentlerd> the only
problem is with memory tracking
L1105[18:05:46] <mentlerd> I mean, __gc
is perfectly supportable
L1106[18:05:47] <Sangar> yeah :/
L1107[18:05:52] <Vexatos> gamax92: Will
you test latest Computronics?
L1108[18:05:56] <gamax92> no
L1109[18:06:00] <Vexatos> Aww
L1110[18:06:10] <gamax92> was barfing at
Buildcraft code.
L1111[18:06:40] <gamax92> buildcraft
stores paths in its config, which is bad if your user isn't on the
same os as you.
L1112[18:06:57] <gamax92> because then
you get
instance/SomeModPack/minecraft\config\buildcraft\blueprints\server
L1113[18:07:03] <gamax92> where
minecraft\config\buildcraft\blueprints\server is a folder
L1114[18:07:49] <Vexatos> Just use
%CD%
L1115[18:07:49] <Vexatos> xD
L1116[18:08:07] <Sangar> mentlerd, hmm,
basically what would have to happen for an object to be resurrected
on the lua side would for it to be a) inserted in some table or b)
used as an upvalue of a newly created closure, no? if those were...
aware of that, that might work? oh. how about a flag
"tracked", that's set to false in finalize() and when the
object is added again somewhere and it is false the count goes up
again? then it would work the other way around: resurrecting would
leak, but
L1117[18:08:07] <Sangar> that could just
be a 'known limitation' then.
L1118[18:08:23] <gamax92> Vexatos:
alright will test now.
L1119[18:08:34] <Sangar> (unless finalize
is called multiple times, which i'm not sure of, then not even
that)
L1120[18:08:50] <Vexatos> gamax92: No
wait
L1121[18:08:55] <Vexatos> I have another
new Computronics file
L1122[18:08:58] *
gamax92 waits
L1123[18:08:58] <Vexatos> more
fixes
L1124[18:09:12] <Vexatos> But the asielib
you got is already fine
L1125[18:09:31] <Sangar> alternatively:
reimplement the lua gc :X
L1126[18:09:34] <mentlerd> Sangar: you
quoted that article about resurrecting objects right?
L1127[18:09:46] <Sangar> i didn't fully
read it, tho
L1128[18:10:06] <mentlerd> but you said
resurrecting an object in a finalizer is fine, so I guess it would
get called again
L1129[18:10:19] <gamax92> Sangar: lua gc
uses garbage collect on java gc, it was super effective!
L1130[18:10:59] <Sangar> "The
reasoning behind this piece of advice is that garbage collectors in
the JVM invoke the finalize() method of an object only
once."
L1131[18:11:13] <mentlerd> dangit
L1132[18:11:22] <gamax92> is that true
though?
L1133[18:11:35] <mentlerd> the GC is
heavily implementation dependent
L1134[18:11:40] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm off,
bye o/
L1135[18:11:44] <mentlerd> and it is not
really speficied how it works
L1136[18:11:48] <gamax92> plus
that.
L1137[18:12:04] <gamax92> what about the
Java unsafe?
L1138[18:12:17] <mentlerd> well, maybe a
'simple' reference counter approach could work?
L1139[18:12:24] <Sangar> let's just get a
c interpreter written in java :P
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L1141[18:12:57] <Sangar> hmm
L1142[18:13:02] <gamax92> Sangar:
directly port lua to java with le unsafe as malloc/free?
L1143[18:13:15] <mentlerd> I mean, a VM
can count references just fine, it controls all table access
L1144[18:13:50] <Sangar> if every real
gc-able object has a wrapper (with a ref to the real obj), that
wrapper has to be collected first, right? then maybe just
"swap out" the wrapper in finalize() then the new wrapper
would be finalized again?
L1145[18:14:43] <mentlerd> that sure is
hacky :D
L1146[18:14:51] <Sangar> i know :/
L1147[18:15:18] <mentlerd> I think
reference counting could work
L1148[18:16:19] <vifino> Bai DeanIsGone
\o
L1149[18:16:59] <mentlerd> this is
already turning into a more pain than gain scenario
L1150[18:17:10] <Sangar> yeah :/
L1151[18:17:35] <gamax92> mentlerd:
didn't you say your coroutines aren't based on threads?
L1152[18:18:00] <mentlerd> They are not
based on java threads, why?
L1153[18:18:08] <gamax92> then that is
already a gain compared to luaj
L1154[18:18:30] <mentlerd> well, the best
would be (in my point of view) if it could replace the
natives
L1155[18:18:34] <gamax92> plus if its
weak tables work any better than luaj, than that is a huge
gain.
L1156[18:18:46] <Sangar> i think he meant
specifically __gc with pain/gain?
L1157[18:18:52] <gamax92> yes i
know
L1158[18:18:54] <Sangar> ok
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L1160[18:19:46] <mentlerd> nah, I will
take a look at the lua gc anyway :D
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L1162[18:20:12] <Ender> Vexatos, i broke
my train lot trying to move it with AE so i'm having to rebuild
it
L1163[18:20:14] <Sangar> if __gc is the
only thing that's not available as opposed to luac i think i'd be
fine with having it replace the natives at some point - say, oc 2.0
or something. just not in 1.x to avoid breaking scripts that do
rely on it (such as openos)
L1164[18:20:31] <Vexatos> Ender:
Wasntme
L1165[18:20:39] <gamax92> Sangar: oh
nice, ami's work with occ
L1166[18:20:40] <Ender> Vexatos, i know
it wasnt
L1167[18:20:52] <Sangar> gamax92,
cool
L1168[18:20:56] <Vexatos> Sangar: I would
not do it
L1169[18:21:00] <gamax92> although,
rather oddly
L1170[18:21:30] <Ender> luckily i didn't
move the computer stuff
L1171[18:21:31] <gamax92> Sangar: when
its returning a lua object its doing
{value={functions,were,here}}
L1172[18:21:33] <Ender> also brb
L1173[18:21:41] <gamax92> instead of just
{functions,were,here}
L1174[18:21:59] <Sangar> gamax92, yeah
it's a limitation of the converter implementation
L1175[18:22:04] <gamax92> alright
L1176[18:22:15] <gamax92> Vexatos: hows
the new computronics?
L1177[18:22:21] <Vexatos> Weird
L1178[18:22:36] <Vexatos> Since I added
NEI to my dev environment, none of my textures appear in game
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L1181[18:23:28] <mentlerd> well, then you
just found your 'Missing texture mod'
L1182[18:23:33] <mentlerd> it is a hidden
feature of NEI
L1183[18:23:35] <Sangar> tho actually...
i thought i had a custom flatten thinger in there... ah well
L1184[18:23:45] <Vexatos> gamax92 ^
L1185[18:23:47] <Vexatos> Just install
NEi
L1186[18:23:51] <Sangar> anyway, g2g for
a bit, bbl
L1187[18:23:59] <gamax92> i have nei
:P
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L1191[18:26:31] <Kodos> What's the thing
needed to have NEI show items and blocks by mods?
L1192[18:26:38] <Kodos> @mod or something
isn't it
L1193[18:27:18] <Vexatos>
@Mod.modname
L1194[18:27:38] <Kodos> Ah, than
kyou
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L1198[18:33:16] <Kodos> Is there a guide
on using the debug card atm
L1199[18:34:27] <Vexatos> NEI is
seriously breaking stuff
L1200[18:34:28] <Vexatos> :|
L1201[18:34:31] <Vexatos> Crap
L1202[18:38:39] <Kodos> What the fuck is
with expired security certificates on websites all of the
sudden
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L1207[18:41:31] <Kodos> Uhh where is the
source for Debug cards? The git's a bit of a mess to me, and I
could only find a 4 line file
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L1212[18:48:31] <Kodos> Ah, it was in the
server folder
L1213[18:48:56] <gamax92> what
L1214[18:49:01] <gamax92> Sangar: my
computer reset itself
L1215[18:49:07] <gamax92> it is now an
empty case.
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L1217[18:51:56] <mentlerd> check console
for exceptions?
L1218[19:01:37] <Altenius> School is out
for two weeks, I am focus on ocemulator now :D
L1219[19:01:49] <mentlerd> Sangar: Might
have found a solution to the finalize issue
L1220[19:02:35] <mentlerd>
java.lang.ref.PhantomReferences won't become enqueued until an
object is truely dead
L1221[19:02:55] <mentlerd> you won't be
able to access the object anymore because of that. but you could
subclass it
L1222[19:03:03] <mentlerd> to store how
much memory the said object consumed
L1223[19:03:47] <mentlerd> I hope you
don't allow for debug.setmetatable :D otherwise this is
perfect
L1224[19:04:40] <Kodos> I'm confused as
to how you use the debug card to manipulate things like player's
HP, position, etc
L1225[19:05:42] <Altenius>
debug.getPlayer("name") returns a proxy
L1226[19:06:22] <Kodos> Let's pretend for
a moment that I'm a mentally challenged 4 year old trying to learn
this
L1227[19:06:28] <Kodos> How do I use said
proxy
L1228[19:07:32] <Altenius> Er, I think it
has docs. Type
"=component.debug.getPlayer("Kodos")" in
lua
L1229[19:07:46] <Kodos> Yep, did that, it
showed me the methods for position and such
L1230[19:07:52] <Kodos> But it didn't
have much in the way of actual isntructions
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L1235[19:17:11] <Vexatos> Hoping that
this works
L1236[19:19:33] <gamax92> k, will
try
L1237[19:20:17] <gamax92> Vexatos: triple
digits hit
L1238[19:20:27] <Vexatos> Huh?
L1239[19:20:29] <gamax92> 1.1.1
L1240[19:20:32] <Vexatos> Oh yea
L1241[19:20:34] <Vexatos> \o/
L1242[19:21:01] <gamax92> Vexatos: k,
cipher block is working
L1243[19:22:00] <Vexatos> No more console
spam opening the tape drive?
L1244[19:22:09] <gamax92> well i thought
we resolved that to the key
L1245[19:22:13] <gamax92> which doesn't
exist anymore
L1246[19:22:20] <gamax92> also no
L1247[19:23:04] <Vexatos> Okay
L1248[19:23:08] <Vexatos> Then removing
the key fixed it
L1249[19:23:10] <Vexatos> :P
L1250[19:23:26] <gamax92> just gonna test
that tapes actually work
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L1253[19:28:10] <asie> Vexatos: what
builds to release?
L1254[19:29:00] <Vexatos> None yet
L1255[19:29:04] <Vexatos> Still on
testery
L1256[19:29:13] <Vexatos> Updating the
waila API brought all kinds of issues
L1257[19:29:23] <Vexatos> including my
dev environment not loading the assets anymore
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L1259[19:30:34] <gamax92> Vexatos: i
can't seem to hear tapes.
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L1261[19:32:40] <Vexatos> Surely wasn't
me
L1262[19:32:50] <Vexatos> I didn't change
anything there
L1263[19:33:04] <asie> Vexatos: did you
remove the key?
L1264[19:33:20] <Vexatos> No, I just
removed the registration
L1265[19:33:24] <Vexatos> the key item is
still there
L1266[19:33:28] <Vexatos> just won't
appear in game
L1267[19:33:33] <asie> oh
L1268[19:33:44] <Vexatos> So I don't have
to break all your key rendering
L1269[19:35:01] <Vexatos> gamax92: Does
waila work?
L1270[19:35:11] <gamax92> gah i don't
have waila in this
L1271[19:36:54] <gamax92> Vexatos:
no
L1272[19:37:04] <gamax92> [13:36:47]
[Client thread/WARN] [Waila]:
pl.asie.computronics.integration.waila.WailaTapeDrive.getWailaBody:34
L1273[19:37:05] <gamax92> [13:36:47]
[Client thread/WARN] [Waila]: Catched unhandled exception : [class
pl.asie.computronics.integration.waila.WailaTapeDrive]
java.lang.NullPointerException
L1274[19:37:12] <Vexatos> catched?
L1275[19:37:13] <Vexatos> :O
L1276[19:37:23] <Vexatos> I have no clue
what that means
L1277[19:37:28] <Vexatos> asie made the
waila integration
L1278[19:37:31] <asie> Vexatos: Waila
seems to wrap code in a try.catch
L1279[19:37:33] <Vexatos> I don't know
how to do it
L1280[19:37:33] <asie> so, line 34
L1281[19:37:35] <asie> NPE
L1282[19:37:41] <gamax92> >_> even
i saw that.
L1283[19:37:46] <gamax92> and im an
idiot
L1284[19:37:51] <Vexatos> Aaaaaah
L1285[19:37:52] <Vexatos> I see
L1286[19:37:55] <Vexatos> yep
L1287[19:38:01] <Vexatos> empty tape
drives will error
L1288[19:38:49] <Vexatos> okay,
fixed
L1289[19:39:08] *
gamax92 notices a ladder effect on dfpwm
L1290[19:39:27] <Vexatos> ladder?
L1291[19:39:32] <gamax92> will
screenshot
L1293[19:40:25] <gamax92> since its not
related to asielib or computronics
L1294[19:40:29] <asie> yes
L1295[19:40:42] <gamax92> no way to
smooth that out?
L1296[19:41:12] <asie> write a filter if
you wish
L1297[19:41:19] <gamax92> hmm
L1298[19:43:56] <Vexatos> You know
what
L1299[19:43:57] <Vexatos> I give up
L1300[19:44:02] <gamax92> Vexatos:
:D
L1301[19:44:05] <gamax92> i mean
D:D
L1302[19:44:10] <Vexatos> Ever since I
updated the Waila API, all my assets are gone
L1303[19:44:16] <Vexatos> they won't
appear in game
L1304[19:44:21] <Vexatos> and I have no
clue why
L1305[19:44:24] <gamax92> Shall I
try?
L1306[19:44:40] <Vexatos> I mean in my
dev environment
L1307[19:44:46] <Vexatos> I guess NEI
fudged up everything
L1308[19:44:49] <gamax92> yes i
know
L1309[19:44:53] <Vexatos> But I have no
clue how to fix it
L1310[19:45:55] <Vexatos> This is really
frustrating
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L1312[19:47:26] <mentlerd> Vexatos:
eclipse? Using the Waila API classes as an external resource, or
packed with your mod?
L1313[19:47:50] <Vexatos> using IDEA and
having the waila API as an external resource
L1314[19:48:16] <mentlerd> are you sure
that the server is using that file too?
L1315[19:48:22] <Vexatos> >_>
L1316[19:48:26] <Vexatos> I am testing in
SSP
L1317[19:48:32] <Vexatos> Or CMP
L1318[19:48:36] <Vexatos> Err CSP
L1319[19:48:44] <Vexatos> depending on
which world I am testing on
L1320[19:48:50] <Vexatos> Always
Singleplayer, though
L1321[19:49:07] <mentlerd> does not
matter, you sure that external jar is the same that forge
loads?
L1322[19:50:10] <Vexatos> Yes
L1323[19:50:23] <Vexatos> I literally
added one file
L1324[19:50:28] <Vexatos> and my assets
are there
L1325[19:50:33] <Vexatos> they aren't
just loading
L1326[19:50:42] <mentlerd> no clue then,
sry
L1327[19:50:50] <Vexatos> so nothing in
Computronics has names or textures
L1328[19:51:03] <Vexatos> once I compile
it, however, it works
L1329[19:51:10] <Vexatos> as gamax92
could confirm
L1330[19:55:46] <Porygon> .p
L1331[19:55:49] <^v> Ping reply from
Porygon 2.45s
L1332[19:55:57] <gamax92> Vexatos: oh
yes, can confirm works out of dev.
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L1334[19:56:13] <Vexatos> I'll just give
up for today :(
L1335[19:56:24] <Vexatos> gamax92: You
want to test waila again?
L1336[19:56:27] <gamax92> sure
L1337[19:56:29] <Vexatos> Have a new
fixed version
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L1344[20:05:23] <gamax92> but but
bu
L1345[20:05:26] <gamax92> bu
L1346[20:05:28] <gamax92> buuuuu
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L1348[20:05:34] <gamax92> ds84182:
fix
L1349[20:05:35] <gamax92> pls
L1350[20:05:36] <gamax92> idon'tget
L1351[20:05:38] <gamax92> itried
L1352[20:05:40] <gamax92>
didnotwork
L1353[20:05:59] <ds84182> don'tfeel
L1354[20:07:06] <gamax92> Vexatos: well,
besides it saying "No tape inserted" on world load
L1355[20:07:07] <gamax92> works
good
L1356[20:07:19] <Vexatos> On world
loadß
L1357[20:07:22] <Vexatos> What do you
mean
L1358[20:07:26] <gamax92> when you load
the world
L1359[20:07:50] <Vexatos> ...?
L1360[20:08:13] <gamax92> Vexatos: Open
world, look at tape drive, says "No tape inserted" even
though it has one, remove and put back, it works perfectly
now.
L1361[20:08:39] <gamax92> actually you
have to open the gui once before it goes "Tape
inserted"
L1362[20:08:43] <Vexatos> Does it also
set properly if you look away
L1363[20:08:47] <gamax92> no
L1364[20:08:47] <Vexatos> and look at the
tape drive again
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L1377[20:54:14] <samis> ShadowKatStudios,
your timing is fail
L1378[20:54:35] <ShadowKatStudios> How
so?
L1379[20:54:50] <samis> you come on
exactly at same point i has to go on tablet
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L1386[21:13:33] <ShadowKatStudios> $conv
5578
L1387[21:13:34] <^vDoge>
ShadowKatStudios, Ɖ5578 = $1.8012 €1.4277 £1.1208
L1388[21:13:53] <ShadowKatStudios>
q_q
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L1390[21:14:20] <Vexatos> Good night
everyone o/
L1391[21:14:25] <ShadowKatStudios>
o/
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L1396[21:19:29] <Kodos> $conv $1
L1397[21:19:29] <^vDoge> Kodos, $1 =
Ɖ3096.81
L1398[21:19:33] <Kodos> Went up a
bit
L1399[21:19:42] <Kodos> Or is it
down
L1400[21:19:44] <Kodos> I get them
confused
L1401[21:19:58] <Kodos> v^, We need a
doge to dollar tracker
L1402[21:20:18] <Kodos> I have a strange
fascination with things like stock markets and such
L1403[21:22:02] <v^> Kodos, google?
L1404[21:22:04] <v^> doge to usd
L1405[21:22:07] <v^> a ton of
charts
L1406[21:22:12] <TabletCube> $conv
30
L1407[21:22:13] <^vDoge> TabletCube, Ɖ30
= $0.0096 €0.0076 £0.006
L1408[21:22:25] <TabletCube> $conv
$30
L1409[21:22:25] <^vDoge> TabletCube, $30
= Ɖ92904.3014
L1410[21:22:40] <TabletCube> $conv
170000
L1411[21:22:40]
⇦ Quits: gjgfuj (~gjgfuj@119.15.76.203) (Ping timeout: 201
seconds)
L1412[21:22:41] <^vDoge> TabletCube,
Ɖ170000 = $54.8951 €43.5123 £34.1601
L1413[21:23:16] <skyeIsaKitty> $bal
L1414[21:23:16] <^vDoge> skyeIsaKitty,
Ɖ1010
L1415[21:23:24] <skyeIsaKitty> $conv
$bal
L1416[21:23:24] <^vDoge> skyeIsaKitty,
Invalid number
L1417[21:23:26] <skyeIsaKitty> $conv
bal
L1418[21:23:27] <^vDoge> skyeIsaKitty,
Ɖ1010 = $0.3261 €0.2585 £0.2029
L1419[21:23:33] <skyeIsaKitty> 20p
L1420[21:25:14]
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seconds)
L1421[21:25:19] <Sangar> mentlerd, sounds
good! and yeah, debug.set/getmetatable is sandboxed.
L1422[21:25:35] <ds84182> $conv
19000
L1423[21:25:36] <^vDoge> ds84182, Ɖ19000
= $6.1353 €4.8631 £3.8179
L1424[21:25:39] <Porygon> $bal
L1425[21:25:39] <^vDoge> Porygon,
Ɖ0
L1426[21:25:51] <TabletCube> $bs;
L1427[21:25:56] <TabletCube> $bal
L1428[21:25:56] <^vDoge> TabletCube,
Ɖ0
L1429[21:26:04] <mentlerd> Sangar: in the
meantime, I realised that there is still no good way to call
finalize more than once
L1430[21:26:04] <Ender> $conv bal
L1431[21:26:05] <^vDoge> Ender, Ɖ5000 =
$1.6145 €1.2797 £1.0047
L1432[21:26:36] ***
Techokami|Off is now known as Techokami
L1433[21:26:39] <Ender> Back to watching
Doctor Who
L1434[21:26:55]
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L1435[21:29:22] <Sangar> mentlerd, maybe
just 'supercount' - i.e. what i meant earlier, flag objects as
counted or not, re-count the finalized object if it's added
somewhere again, and from time to time do a more expensive
re-count?
L1436[21:29:34] <Sangar> idk
L1437[21:30:04] <Sangar> i do know that
i'm too tired to think about this right now, tho
L1438[21:30:20] <Sangar> i'll be heading
to bed, talk to you tomorrow or so o/
L1439[21:30:31] <mentlerd> I mean, your
idea about giving a new wrapper to __gc is nice, but that will get
GC'd too, causing an other __gc to be called
L1440[21:30:35] <mentlerd> oh, alright.
Bai
L1441[21:33:18] <Sangar> yeah, trying to
trick the gc is kinda messy :/ we'll see if it's just *too* messy.
anyway, gnight!
L1442[21:40:13]
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L1445[21:45:25] ***
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L1446[21:48:20]
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error: Connection reset by peer)
L1447[21:54:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
o/
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L1454[22:17:28] <v^> fffffff
L1456[22:18:52] <ShadowKatStudios>
o.O
L1457[22:21:19] <ShadowKatStudios>
Anyway, time to reboot, just did pacman -Syu, let's see if text
rendering works now.
L1458[22:21:29] <skyeIsaKitty>
GERONIMO!
L1459[22:21:59] ***
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L1460[22:23:03]
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(~mentlerd@catv-80-99-68-239.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit:
Leaving)
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L1462[22:24:25] <skyeIsaKitty> \o/?
L1463[22:25:14] <ShadowKatStudios> I
broke wifi.
L1464[22:26:05] <skyeIsaKitty> \o/
L1465[22:28:19]
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L1467[22:33:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Ohkay,
so the driver hates me.
L1468[22:34:13] <ShadowKatStudios>
fffsss
L1469[22:34:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Looks
to be reinstall time.
L1470[22:34:53]
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L1471[22:35:00] <skyeIsaKitty> sounds
like fun
L1472[22:41:09]
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L1474[22:44:49] <ShadowKatStudios> ugh, I
can't even get my USB drive to boot on there now
L1475[22:45:48] <skyeIsaKitty> fun!
L1476[22:46:00] <TabletCube> wifi-menu
ftw
L1477[22:46:06] *
skyeIsaKitty has a stack of blank DVDs and CDs
L1478[22:46:18] <TabletCube> although my
desktop uses ethernet
L1479[22:46:30] <ShadowKatStudios>
TabletCube: wifi-menu won't work because there's no working
wireless interface >.<
L1480[22:46:34] <TabletCube> Only dhcpcd
is needed :?
L1481[22:46:43] <TabletCube> Emoticon
fail
L1482[22:46:43] <skyeIsaKitty> I actually
have a PXE setup on my network
L1483[22:46:54] <TabletCube>
skyeIsaKitty: for?
L1484[22:47:07] <ShadowKatStudios>
Installing linux on all the winderps boxes
L1485[22:47:11] <ShadowKatStudios>
obv
L1486[22:47:13] <ShadowKatStudios>
:P
L1487[22:47:14] <skyeIsaKitty> It can
boot into clonezilla
L1488[22:49:07] <ShadowKatStudios> :o
spare ethernet cable!
L1489[22:49:43] <skyeIsaKitty> \o/
L1490[22:49:51] <Porygon>
ShadowKatStudios: do you know manjaro?
L1491[22:49:54] <skyeIsaKitty> I am going
to buy ethernet cables so I can connect my server
L1492[22:50:21] <Porygon> it's like arch
but with a testing phase for the arch repos
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L1494[22:57:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
Porygon: I'm gonna try that
L1495[23:00:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Should
I add my internal hostnames to my hosts file on my computers on my
LAN?
L1496[23:00:49] *
skyeIsaKitty jumps onto ShadowKatStudios' shoulder
L1497[23:02:11] <vifino>
ShadowKatStudios: yes
L1498[23:04:09] <Kilobyte> gah
L1499[23:04:32] <Kilobyte> now i gotta
wait for a system update which is dripping in at 100 KB/s
L1500[23:05:17] <TabletCube> haaa
L1501[23:07:14] <skyeIsaKitty> \o/
L1502[23:07:18] <skyeIsaKitty> .p
Kilobyte
L1503[23:07:18] <^v> Ping reply from
Kilobyte 0.29s
L1504[23:07:30] <Kilobyte> i use a
bouncer
L1505[23:07:43] <Kilobyte> so thats only
the ping to from the bot to my vps
L1506[23:08:09] <Kilobyte> 6 packets
transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5004ms
L1507[23:08:11] <Kilobyte> rtt
min/avg/max/mdev = 107.212/177.602/256.539/58.263 ms
L1508[23:08:20] <Kilobyte> thats to
googles dns servers
L1510[23:09:34] <skyeIsaKitty> hhe
L1511[23:09:36] <skyeIsaKitty> heh
L1512[23:10:20] <skyeIsaKitty> I want to
name my computer something cool, but I also like naming them for
what they are, also I find it hard to think of names.
L1513[23:10:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Anime
names are best.
L1514[23:11:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I can
give you my short list of anime girls with stuff to do with
computers if you want
L1515[23:11:41] <ShadowKatStudios> (ow,
400MiB at 800KiB/s D: )
L1516[23:11:52] ***
Cazzar is now known as Cazzar|Away
L1517[23:11:56] *
skyeIsaKitty watches Doctor Who, NCIS and Lets Plays. Not good
sources for inspiration.
L1518[23:12:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I can
think of some from that list.
L1519[23:12:44] <ShadowKatStudios> rose,
martha, donna, amy, clara
L1520[23:12:50] <ShadowKatStudios> It's
not many, but it's a few
L1521[23:13:02] <skyeIsaKitty> meh
L1522[23:14:09] <skyeIsaKitty> What about
the names for the actors of the doctor
L1523[23:14:28] <skyeIsaKitty> Tom
(Baker) would be for the old computer
L1524[23:15:19] <ShadowKatStudios> You
could do that too.
L1525[23:16:21] <skyeIsaKitty> My PC
would be called Christopher (Eccleston) as he was the first doctor
I watched
L1526[23:16:33] <skyeIsaKitty> but
meh
L1527[23:17:32] <ShadowKatStudios>
Ethernet switch utilisation: 33.33333%
L1528[23:17:42] <skyeIsaKitty> heh
L1529[23:17:51] <skyeIsaKitty> How can
you tell utilisation?
L1530[23:17:54]
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L1531[23:17:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
10-port switch, 3 things plugged in
L1532[23:18:34] <skyeIsaKitty> oh
L1533[23:18:36] <skyeIsaKitty> heh
L1534[23:18:48] ***
alekso56 is now known as alekso56_off
L1535[23:19:16] <skyeIsaKitty> my switch
has 1/8 utilisation.
L1536[23:19:19] <ShadowKatStudios> It's
only a 10/100 switch unfortunately.
L1537[23:19:27] *
skyeIsaKitty has gigabit
L1538[23:19:35] <skyeIsaKitty> But the
router is 10/100
L1539[23:19:54] <ShadowKatStudios> My
router is gigabit
L1540[23:20:08] <ShadowKatStudios> But I
don't have a cable that would reach from the kitchen to the cat
room.
L1541[23:20:18] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: what time will you wake up
L1542[23:20:24] <TabletCube> after
sleep
L1543[23:20:34] <TabletCube> This
weekend
L1544[23:20:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Uh...
My time? Probably somewhere between 6 and 8 AM
L1545[23:21:10] <skyeIsaKitty> BST?
L1546[23:22:37] <ShadowKatStudios>
That's... ~9PM to ~11PM in GMT+10
L1547[23:22:41] <ShadowKatStudios>
s/10/1
L1548[23:22:41] <Kibibyte>
<ShadowKatStudios> That's... ~9PM to ~11PM in GMT+1
L1549[23:22:52] <ShadowKatStudios>
fucking muscle memory
L1550[23:23:05] <skyeIsaKitty> heh
L1551[23:23:15] <skyeIsaKitty> PM?
L1552[23:23:31] <skyeIsaKitty> I thought
you were trying to sync to british time?
L1553[23:24:12] <ShadowKatStudios>
skyeIsaKitty: School starts again soon
L1554[23:24:20] <skyeIsaKitty>
noooooo
L1555[23:24:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
trying to not end up asleep the whole first day
L1556[23:25:27] <skyeIsaKitty> I actually
fell asleep in one of my lessons on my first day
L1557[23:26:07] <ShadowKatStudios>
gg
L1558[23:26:57] <skyeIsaKitty> I also am
still sleeping in some lessions
L1559[23:27:15] <ShadowKatStudios> <3
double speakers
L1560[23:28:10] <TabletCube> So, tl;dr no
mc time with you :(
L1561[23:28:10] <skyeIsaKitty> heh
L1562[23:28:38]
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L1563[23:28:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Next
weekend I'll stay up later
L1564[23:29:13] <skyeIsaKitty> \o/
L1565[23:29:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I
don't care if these speakers are beige, they're the highest-quality
audio equipment I have
L1566[23:30:03] <ShadowKatStudios> These
cheap new sony speakers don't compare
L1567[23:31:47] <skyeIsaKitty> I need to
go now....
L1568[23:31:54] ***
skyeIsaKitty is now known as skye|away
L1569[23:31:59] <skye|away> :(
L1570[23:32:03] <ShadowKatStudios>
o/
L1571[23:32:07] <skye|away> \o
L1572[23:34:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Yay
for the bottleneck being USB2.0 rather than the network
L1573[23:37:10] <TabletCube> /me removes
ShadowKatStudios's ld-linux library
L1574[23:38:57]
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L1575[23:42:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh my
*, using ethernet rather than wifi is so much faster
L1576[23:43:54] <TabletCube> Yes.
L1577[23:43:59] <TabletCube> Very
much.
L1578[23:44:22] <ShadowKatStudios> It
takes seconds to send an episode of 720p anime rather than
minutes!
L1579[23:44:41] *
ShadowKatStudios is making sure he can get rid of his OS on his
laptop before he does
L1580[23:45:01] <TabletCube> ?
L1581[23:45:10] *
Ender bangs an empty oil drum 4 times, with a half second pause and
then a whole second pause after 4 beats, repeating
L1582[23:45:28] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
gonna format the drive, so I'm putting all my anime on my
desktop
L1583[23:46:02] <ShadowKatStudios>
tap-tap-tap-tap
L1584[23:46:05] <Ender> EnderBot2,
heartbeat
L1585[23:46:05] *
EnderBot2 taps out a four-beat rhythm...
L1586[23:46:19] *
ShadowKatStudios checks Ender's site
L1587[23:46:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I KNOW
WHAT THIS MEANS! :P
L1588[23:46:43] <TabletCube> What?
L1589[23:46:45] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
nothing released, i just finished watching series 1 of Doctor
Who
L1590[23:46:56] <Ender> but i could
release the chapter
L1591[23:46:57] <ShadowKatStudios> In
other news, I actually have several chapters written because I
can't release them without spoiling stuff
L1592[23:47:07] <Ender> lol
L1593[23:48:19] <Ender> stupid webchat, y
u no use localhost?
L1594[23:48:21] *
ShadowKatStudios awaits being clubbed to death
L1595[23:48:55] <ShadowKatStudios> guh 26
episodes
L1596[23:49:10] <ShadowKatStudios> fuck
it, I haven't started watching it, it's getting wiped.
L1597[23:49:21] <Kilobyte> Ender:
wot
L1598[23:49:22] <Ender> lol
L1599[23:49:25] *
skye|away hums the doctor who theme
L1600[23:49:44] <skye|away>
OOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
L1601[23:49:54] <TabletCube>
ShadowKatStudios: what you wiping
L1602[23:49:56] <Ender> Kilobyte, i have
a webchat for my bouncer users and it connects to my external
address rather than localhost
L1603[23:50:00] <skye|away>
EeeeeeeeeeeeOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
L1604[23:50:12] <Kilobyte> Ender: lol wtf
is wrong
L1605[23:50:16] <ShadowKatStudios>
TabletCube: My laptop
L1606[23:50:20] <Ender> Kilobyte, no
idea
L1607[23:50:22] <TabletCube> Ah
L1608[23:50:36] <Kilobyte> i gotta
rewrite the client part of my webchat
L1609[23:50:51]
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(~AtomSpong@aftr-37-201-225-117.unity-media.net) (Quit:
Leaving)
L1610[23:51:02] <ShadowKatStudios>
>.< BOOT FROM THE USB YOU USELESS PILE OF SHITE
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zsh sets mode: +v on Maxwolf
L1613[23:51:11] <Ender> lol
L1614[23:51:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Time
to try a different USB...
L1615[23:51:33] <Kilobyte> that was some
long system upgrade
L1616[23:51:35] <Kilobyte> 45
minutes
L1617[23:51:44] <Kilobyte> half of that
was installing atom
L1618[23:52:02] <Kilobyte> and 90% of the
rest was downloading packages
L1619[23:52:04] <skye|away> Dun dun dun
duuuuun dun dun, de de de do, da da da da. DA! De de de dedede da!
De dedede Da! Do de dedede da!
L1620[23:52:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
out of powerpoints again
L1621[23:53:11] <skye|away>
WeeeeeeeeOOOOOOOeeeeoOOoeeeeooooooeeeeeoooooooeeeeoooooooeeeeeeooooooooeeeeooooooeeeeooo
L1622[23:53:28] <Kilobyte> skye|away:
don't take drugs, they aren't healthy
L1623[23:53:42] <Kilobyte> i really gotta
fix my internet
L1624[23:53:56] <Kilobyte> we got a 16
mbit line
L1626[23:54:03] -Kibibyte- [Ender] Dr. Who
Meets Metal | by 331erock | 4m33s | 126w6d ago | 2,84,345 views |
Rated:
4.98/5.00
L1627[23:54:10] <skye|away> I am just
sleep deprived
L1628[23:54:14] <Kilobyte> yet my pc gets
like < 1 mbit
L1629[23:54:23] <Kilobyte> because at
edge of wifi
L1630[23:54:23] <Ender> lol
L1631[23:54:41] <skye|away>
DyfihwgddihebdihsgdsbysbesgxsbexrgsuhdggwihdgdshgdhsdgriygxuyegcuyeggriqtxggkehGaysgdayisgiyasguysfauysguyqfuysvfugwevduysuyafsuydfasuydfasuydgyeugduywsgduyeagduyasgcuasygcuyqs
L1632[23:54:55] <ShadowKatStudios>
Kilobyte: ethernet ftw
L1633[23:55:02] <Kilobyte> and we can't
get a lan cable here (apart from fact that our router only has one
lan port and my dad won't give up his lan)
L1634[23:55:02] <skye|away>
Ethernet!
L1635[23:55:14] <skye|away> Get a
switch
L1636[23:55:46] <Kilobyte> that doesn't
solve the issue that we can't get it here without drilling through
walls
L1637[23:56:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Duct
tape and cables can go around anything.
L1638[23:56:05] <Kilobyte> which we could
do, but its prob not worth it
L1639[23:56:16] <Kilobyte> what about
doors? :P
L1640[23:56:21] <TabletCube> Kilobyte:
wifi booster?
L1641[23:56:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes.
Has been done.
L1642[23:56:27] <Kilobyte> TabletCube:
nah, new router
L1643[23:56:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Better
antenna?
L1644[23:56:36] <Kilobyte> our current
one is getting old
L1645[23:56:44] <Kilobyte> nah, the
router is buggy shit
L1646[23:56:50] <TabletCube> Kilobyte:
new = fritzbox?
L1647[23:57:00] <Kilobyte> a new router
would probably increase speed too
L1648[23:57:02] <Kilobyte> TabletCube:
yes.
L1649[23:57:03] <skye|away> My dad bought
the cable, then used some kind of clip to secure it to the
wall.
L1650[23:57:27] <Kilobyte> we currently
have a speedport (shit made for our ISP)
L1651[23:57:34] <ShadowKatStudios> 8GB
over USB is painful
L1652[23:57:36] <Kilobyte> its firmware
is bad shit
L1653[23:57:48] <Kilobyte>
ShadowKatStudios: depends on USB version
L1654[23:57:51] <skye|away> He also cut a
small corner of my door off
L1655[23:58:00] <ShadowKatStudios>
Kilobyte: I own 0 USB3 devices
L1656[23:58:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Ender:
That 'I am the Doctor' part.
L1657[23:58:20] <Kilobyte> anyways, the
"wrong password" timeout on config interface is literally
implemented in javascript
L1658[23:58:32] *
skye|away has 10 usb3 ports on his PC
L1659[23:58:41] <Kilobyte> you can bypass
it by removing the "disabled" attribute from the input
element
L1660[23:58:48] <Ender> lol
L1661[23:58:49] <ShadowKatStudios> My
computers have 0 USB3 ports
L1662[23:58:52] <skye|away> .-.
L1663[23:58:59] <Kilobyte>
ShadowKatStudios: i have 4 USB 3 ports
L1664[23:58:59] <ShadowKatStudios> USB2
ftw
L1665[23:59:04] <Kilobyte> and one device
supporting it
L1666[23:59:09] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
an irrational hatred of USB3
L1667[23:59:19] <skye|away> Why?
L1668[23:59:20] <Kilobyte> wh8ich is my
external hard disk (4 TB big)
L1669[23:59:28] <Kilobyte> 3.1 is gonna
be fun
L1670[23:59:42] *
skye|away has a 3TB hdd
L1671[23:59:46] <ShadowKatStudios>
skye|away: Because irrational
L1672[23:59:58] <Ender> this pc i'm on
has 2 and a supporting device plugged into one. my main comp has 4
but none of them actually have USB3 devices in them