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L3[00:02:43] <^v> Oh noes! chaos split 3:
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L7[00:10:22] <mindstorm8191> hmm... can buildcraft pipes be colored??
L8[00:11:24] <mindstorm8191> doesn't seem like you can... its not listed in NEI...
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L165[00:25:01] <mindstorm8191> wow, that was a _big_ net split
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L169[00:26:52] <Techokami> indeed
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L173[00:30:54] <ping> .p
L174[00:30:55] <^v> Ping reply from ping 0.35s
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L177[00:31:29] <mindstorm8191> hmm, not sure what happened there...
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L184[00:50:25] <gamax92> "A complete backup of your system requires about 50 blank formatted, high-density (2MB) diskettes"
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L186[00:54:04] <mindstorm8191> gamax92: 2MB disks? 3 1/2" disks were only ever 1.44MB in size
L187[00:54:25] <gamax92> you didn't know 2.88MB disks existed?
L188[00:54:41] <mindstorm8191> I've never seen them
L189[00:54:47] <gamax92> either that, or they are actually referring to the unformatted size, and your statement is correct.
L190[00:55:45] <mindstorm8191> gamax92: did you have to have a special drive that could read 2.88MB disks?
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L192[00:56:01] <gamax92> nah, mine is a 1.44MB drive
L193[00:56:48] * mindstorm8191 had up to 4 different zip disks at one point, since his college campus computers all carried the drives
L194[00:58:27] <mindstorm8191> I then brought a 256MB USB drive - for $80 - and had to keep a website with the driver installers available
L195[00:59:25] <gamax92> hmm, either OS/2 corrupted the volume label during fixpack installation, or it cannot handle lfn's.
L196[00:59:30] <gamax92> As the volume name in the images from before fixpacks and after fixpacks switched from "OS2" to "Ac"
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L200[01:32:20] <TabletCube> Guys
L201[01:32:42] <TabletCube> comcast may have declared war on tor
L202[01:34:00] <gamax92> ping: I'm assuming I can't io.open("blah","rwb")
L203[01:34:08] <gamax92> because that would be really useful
L204[01:34:28] <mindstorm8191> who's tor?
L205[01:34:35] <gamax92> tor is not a person.
L206[01:34:54] <mindstorm8191> -_-
L207[01:35:33] <mindstorm8191> I have never heard of tor. Therefore I cannot know the significance of comcast declaring war on it
L208[01:35:45] <gamax92> Search engines, and wikipedia exists for a reason.
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L210[01:36:52] <mindstorm8191> do you realize how many irrelevant hits I will get from a 3-letter word?
L211[01:37:27] <gamax92> none?
L212[01:37:31] <gamax92> the first result was correct
L213[01:37:50] <gamax92> infact the first 10 results were correct
L214[01:38:08] <gamax92> up to 15 results were correct
L215[01:38:46] <Porygon> tor is kind of well-known
L216[01:39:57] <ping> gamax92, you cant without posix
L217[01:40:04] <gamax92> ping: this is linux?
L218[01:40:09] <gamax92> or do you mean luaposix
L219[01:40:19] <ping> yes
L220[01:40:22] <gamax92> fak
L221[01:40:27] <ping> or luajit's ffi
L222[01:40:29] <gamax92> well i'll just make a fake handle then
L223[01:40:32] <ping> ^
L224[01:42:24] <mindstorm8191> ...if tor represents internet anomity, comcast may die because of their war. customers don't want to be monitored
L225[01:43:10] <mindstorm8191> they have other threats to worry about. like competition
L226[01:44:11] <ping> tor is too much of a pain in the ass
L227[01:44:44] <ping> anonimity is hard >_>
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L229[01:49:48] <gamax92> well, time to port my msdos driver to standard lua
L230[01:52:45] <gamax92> oh, it will already work for standard lua, besides fs.canonical
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L233[02:05:55] <mindstorm8191> dude... I forgot about these... but no idea how to use them. Does anyone here know how the bundled gates work?
L234[02:06:50] <gamax92> aren't they just the same as the standard gates, but apply to each "wire" of the bundled cable
L235[02:07:57] <mindstorm8191> maybe, but I don't know...
L236[02:08:55] <mindstorm8191> I basically need to 'allow signal' if one channel is on, and 'block signal' if that channel is off
L237[02:09:45] <mindstorm8191> at this point, adding different grouping modes is going to be extremely expensive...
L238[02:09:52] <mindstorm8191> and space-consuming...
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L245[03:06:13] <mindstorm8191> ...okay, question: is there any limit to how many redstone component blocks I can connect to a single computer?
L246[03:08:47] <gamax92> That would be the component limit of the cpu.
L247[03:09:11] <gamax92> as to how much each cpu supports, don't remember. Believe it says it if you press ALT while the cursor hovers over one
L248[03:10:58] <mindstorm8191> dang... that's gonna suck, then
L249[03:11:11] <mindstorm8191> can I access components in a round-robin fashion?
L250[03:21:49] <Kodos> You can access them via their address at will
L251[03:22:21] <mindstorm8191> but I cannot access more than 16, right? even with the best possible chip
L252[03:22:53] <gamax92> server?
L253[03:23:07] <Kodos> Or use bundled redstone if you're already at 16
L254[03:23:19] <Kodos> Since that would multiply your channels, too
L255[03:23:30] <Kodos> Since you could have each redstone IO block have its own bundled cable set
L256[03:23:46] <mindstorm8191> kodos: yes, but I would still be limited to 16x16x5 channels
L257[03:24:58] <Kodos> .calc 16*16*5
L258[03:24:58] <^v> Kodos, 1280
L259[03:25:12] <Kodos> Why the hell do you need more than 1280
L260[03:25:49] <mindstorm8191> I'm building a craft-on-demand system, and I don't want to be limited to a set number of possible items to craft
L261[03:26:50] <mindstorm8191> ...besides, bundled cable is pretty expensive
L262[03:27:51] <gamax92> mindstorm8191: well, there's always component over modem
L263[03:28:08] <mindstorm8191> gamax92: hmm, how does that work?
L264[03:28:19] <ping> "limited"
L265[03:28:21] <gamax92> component wrappers that access other components over modem network
L266[03:28:31] <gamax92> also 1280 items is a pretty large amount
L267[03:28:58] <ping> .l 2^32
L268[03:28:59] <^v> ping, 4294967296
L269[03:29:02] <gamax92> i feel like at that point, bundled cabling is expensive.
L270[03:29:03] <ping> cant go over that
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L272[03:29:22] <gamax92> ping: erm, where does this number come from?
L273[03:29:38] <gamax92> rephrase, what does it apply to.
L274[03:29:44] <ping> your mom
L275[03:29:59] <mindstorm8191> gamax92: it takes more than a single channel to craft an item, or use one for crafting. I have 2 to accurately detect how many items I have in chests
L276[03:30:33] <mindstorm8191> I then have to route items to the correct crafting table.
L277[03:30:40] <Kodos> If you're making a craft on demand system, why not just use AE2 and bridge it into OC
L278[03:31:21] <Kodos> Seems to me you're just making something that's entirely way more complicated than it needs to be, and then overcomplicating it some more
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L280[03:31:26] <mindstorm8191> I'm not going to install yet another mod... especially AE
L281[03:32:52] <mindstorm8191> especially this far into a game world
L282[03:33:31] <gamax92> If you wish.
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L284[03:34:01] <ping> you know the only ore it adds is quartz right
L285[03:34:11] <Kodos> Either way, what you're doing, and how you're going about it, is absurd imo, and I'm probably just gonna go play a game as opposed to helping you
L286[03:34:13] <ping> and it can autogen it into an existing world
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L288[03:47:01] <mindstorm8191> kodos, that's fine. maybe I'm insane, but I do want to make this work. it might be crazy when I'm done, but it'll be a fun ride for me
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L294[04:22:35] <Hawk777> gamax92: You mentioned this component-over-modem idea for accessing more than 16 components. Is that something that exists in core OC, a block that can bridge two network segments and allow access to components in the far segment beyond the usual component limit?
L295[04:22:58] <Hawk777> Looking at the documentation I see only the switch as possibly related, which says it doesn’t allow access to components.
L296[04:23:14] <Hawk777> Or do you have to use a computer in the distant segment and talk with network packets?
L297[04:24:57] <ping> >_> you use a program to transmit component calls
L298[04:25:42] <Hawk777> So, using a computer on the distant segment?
L299[04:29:44] * Hawk777 images that’s the only way to do it
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L660[05:46:03] <mindstorm8191> ugh... this component thing seems a bit hard... has anyone ever used it before?
L661[05:46:16] <mindstorm8191> trying to figure out how to manage multiple redstone component blocks
L662[05:46:29] <mindstorm8191> (not that I have multiple ones right now, but will at some point)
L663[05:58:33] <mindstorm8191> ...is anyone awake? or am I the only one still playing?
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L666[06:07:45] <Kodos> .w component.proxy
L667[06:07:45] <^v> Kodos, component.proxy(address:string):table Gets a 'proxy' object for a component that provides all methods the component provides as fields, so they can be called more directly (instead of via invoke).
L668[06:08:14] <Kodos> Wait, I don't think that's what I was looking or
L669[06:08:14] <Kodos> for
L670[06:08:18] <Kodos> .w
L671[06:08:18] <^v> Kodos, http://ocd.cil.li/
L672[06:09:03] <mindstorm8191> well, maybe proxy is what I need... I'll see what it does for me
L673[06:09:10] <Kodos> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:component_access
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L675[06:13:59] <mindstorm8191> ITS WORKING!!! YAY!!!!
L676[06:16:40] <mindstorm8191> okay this should work for me... but man its time for bed, night everyone
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L691[07:39:03] <ShadowKatStudios> http://i.imgur.com/BwIRk5S.jpg
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L694[07:47:07] <Kodos|Zzz> https://twitter.com/Tiyuri/status/511420173308669952
L695[07:47:35] <Kodos|Zzz> If Starbound goes open source, and Mojang sells out to Microsoft, I'm done with Minecraft, and will be moving on to Starbound
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L697[07:50:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Kodos|Zzz: Yes. Open-source mainstream games ftw
L698[07:51:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Also, did that Microsoft thing actually happen?
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L709[08:12:28] <NixillUmbreon|2> Notch once said he wanted to open-source Minecraft at the end of development.
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L711[08:12:39] <NixillUmbreon> http://web.archive.org/web/20100301103851/http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp
L712[08:13:01] <NixillUmbreon> Not end of development. When sales start dying.
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L715[08:13:54] <asie> Yes
L716[08:13:58] <asie> And Mojang reaffirmed that a month ago
L717[08:14:06] <asie> stating that that time is in ten years, or so
L718[08:14:11] <asie> of open-sourcing Minecraft that is
L719[08:17:02] <NixillUmbreon> Okie then.
L720[08:17:11] <NixillUmbreon> I just... I don't see that happening if MS owns MJ.
L721[08:17:24] <dangranos> D:
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L727[08:46:43] <Ender> morning all
L728[08:46:49] <ShadowKatStudios> \o Ender
L729[08:49:41] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios, i got bored yesterday and did this http://puu.sh/bzOKo/6874827760.png it comes to about 23204.04 AUS$
L730[08:49:44] <ShadowKatStudios> NixillUmbreon: But Buildcraft is open-source..?
L731[08:50:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Xeon?
L732[08:50:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Nice.
L733[08:50:16] <Ender> 14 cores on each cpu, and theres 2 of those
L734[08:50:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Still, 23 grand for one computer...
L735[08:50:35] <Ender> 42TB of storage
L736[08:50:43] <Ender> 64GB of ram
L737[08:50:56] <ShadowKatStudios> RAIDed storage?
L738[08:51:03] <Ender> it could be
L739[08:51:23] <Ender> i didnt actually buy that. i just got bored and bundled it together
L740[08:51:36] <ShadowKatStudios> If you're gonna get insane amounts of RAID and pay 23 grand for the computer, may as well get hardware RAID, right?
L741[08:51:48] * ShadowKatStudios has a computer with hardware RAID
L742[08:52:07] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios, i think the board supports RAID itself
L743[08:52:27] <Ender> also remember to look at the quantity boxes on the left
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L745[08:53:31] <ShadowKatStudios> ALso, only one DVD drive?
L746[08:53:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Seems sorta funny.
L747[08:54:16] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios, it has 6 sata 3 ports, 7 are on the hdds,
L748[08:59:50] <Ender> s/6/8
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L765[09:58:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Ender: Multiplex the DVD drive one. SATA 3 can probably R/W faster than the DVD drive.
L766[09:58:26] <DeanIsaKitty> ShadowKatStudios! \o/
L767[09:59:43] <ShadowKatStudios> DeanIsaKitty! \o/
L768[09:59:51] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles ShadowKatStudios
L769[09:59:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm watching No Game no Life
L770[10:04:17] <DeanIsaKitty> And I want to cuddle. So come back her and hug me :<
L771[10:04:21] <DeanIsaKitty> *here
L772[10:06:17] <ShadowKatStudios> http://i.imgur.com/9V7JlnJ.jpg
L773[10:06:24] * ShadowKatStudios hugs DeanIsaKitty
L774[10:06:48] <DeanIsaKitty> You are evil D:
L775[10:06:59] <DeanIsaKitty> (ok.... duh... ) ._:
L776[10:07:01] <DeanIsaKitty> *._.
L777[10:08:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Yeah, I am evil.
L778[10:08:59] <ShadowKatStudios> \o/ What can you do?
L779[10:09:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Tell you to stop being evil?
L780[10:10:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Rhetorical question.
L781[10:11:12] <DeanIsaKitty> ;)
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L787[10:54:35] <DeanIsaKitty> How does my Winderps (8.1) with the most recent drivers of everything being around 50% of the speed of my Fedora with the Linux drivers (also most recent)?? ._.
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L789[11:03:31] <ShadowKatStudios> DeanIsaKitty: One is Winderps, one is Linux.
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L793[11:19:59] <NixillUmbreon> This feels like a stupid question but
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L796[11:20:37] <NixillUmbreon> Is there a way I can write to stdin (for example, use command-line arguments to pre-populate the answers to runtime user input)?
L797[11:21:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Uh, pipes are the best I can think of.
L798[11:24:14] <NixillUmbreon> Don't know what a pipe is (xwx) but I can probably just google it or in fact I just thought of an alternative method of what I want.
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L806[11:32:07] <vifino> Ender!
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L824[13:07:11] <DeanIsaKitty> https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/ <- If you didn't know already..
L825[13:07:35] <Wobbo> I heard about it yesterday. Such a shame
L826[13:07:45] <Wobbo> Well, I knew about the rumors before
L827[13:10:44] <DeanIsaKitty> http://news.xbox.com/2014/09/games-minecraft-to-join-microsoft <- not overloaded. µsoft got better servers i guess
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L829[13:12:19] <Wobbo> "At Microsoft, we believe in the power of content to unite people." Well, you are good at uniting people against you
L830[13:13:15] <ShadowKatStudios> So. Who wants to die right now? I know I do. Freaking microsoft, go DIAF.
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L833[13:13:43] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Dying is not really what I want right now. We will see what happens
L834[13:14:00] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Maybe nothing happens.
L835[13:14:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Are you kidding?
L836[13:14:34] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: And if they fuck up, we go to one of the many clones :V
L837[13:14:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Microsoft, the company that along with IBM, pushed back the advancement of computers by at least 10 years, now owns Minecraft.
L838[13:16:27] <DeanIsaKitty> the push back is Xbone, not µsoft itself
L839[13:16:55] <ShadowKatStudios> No, the thing that pushed back computing development was Windows.
L840[13:17:09] <DeanIsaKitty> The worst thing is that cpw is gone now.
L841[13:17:09] <DeanIsaKitty> https://twitter.com/minecraftcpw/status/511501958910578688
L842[13:17:40] <ShadowKatStudios> I can't blame him.
L843[13:17:51] <DeanIsaKitty> Along a few others but cpw is the one that will hurt the most
L844[13:18:14] <asie> DeanIsaKitty: This is the third time cpw is quitting this year
L845[13:18:16] <asie> I'm pretty sure
L846[13:18:26] <DeanIsaKitty> and the second you are?
L847[13:18:35] <asie> Haha.
L848[13:18:38] <asie> I didn't quit /yet/.
L849[13:18:41] <ShadowKatStudios> This time though, considering the circumstances, I don't think cpw will come back.
L850[13:18:50] <DeanIsaKitty> asie: suuuuuure ;)
L851[13:19:06] <DeanIsaKitty> https://twitter.com/minecraftcpw/status/511502311118884864
L852[13:19:08] <DeanIsaKitty> jup
L853[13:19:11] <Wobbo> asie: You are waiting a few more minutes? :P
L854[13:19:14] <DeanIsaKitty> done and done
L855[13:19:22] <ShadowKatStudios> *sobs* DAMNIT MY LAST ESCAPE IS GONNNNEEE
L856[13:20:18] * Techokami actually reads the press releases from both Microsoft and Mojang
L857[13:20:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Mmmk, time to re-map OC's kernel stuff to raw Lua, and make it cope with curses.
L858[13:21:01] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: First, implement Lua Curses in OC :P
L859[13:21:23] <dangranos> https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/
L860[13:21:24] <dangranos> T_T
L861[13:21:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Well I /think/ sangar will stay.
L862[13:21:32] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos...
L863[13:21:35] <Techokami> uh guys, I think Minecraft isn't going to change at all after this, I mean they're still going to do Minecon and release the game on all other platforms, and support the Youtube community and all that jazz... I think it's a bit overreactionay to go "NOOOO" and jump off a cliff
L864[13:21:46] <Techokami> *overreactionary
L865[13:21:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll impliment OC in curses before I impliment curses in OC, gotta get your priorities
L866[13:22:01] <Wobbo> Techokami: But M$! All flee now! :P
L867[13:22:17] <Techokami> but this isn't the old Microsoft anymore
L868[13:22:44] <Wobbo> Techokami: no, now they want to do stuff with cloud stuff. No clue how that should work
L869[13:23:03] <DeanIsaKitty> yeah, they ruined simcity now
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L871[13:23:14] <Techokami> Ballmer is gone, Nadella isn't a shitlord, there's actually free (as in freedom) software comming out of the place
L872[13:23:25] <Techokami> and isn't Realms a cloud thing already?
L873[13:23:36] <ShadowKatStudios> No-one I know uses Relams.
L874[13:24:09] <Techokami> doesn't mean that no-one uses Realms at all
L875[13:25:05] <Wobbo> Techokami: No, realms isn't cloud
L876[13:25:14] <Wobbo> Techokami: It is server hosting by Mojang.
L877[13:25:21] <ShadowKatStudios> I feel sorry for the people at school with me tomorrow already.
L878[13:25:39] <DeanIsaKitty> :D
L879[13:25:43] <Techokami> hm
L880[13:26:36] <Techokami> well I still think people fleeing is a knee-jerk reaction, as it looks like the only change is that Microsoft is cutting Mojang's paychecks now, and Notch gets to go off and be obscure again
L881[13:26:53] <dangranos> Remember what happened to skype after MS owned it?
L882[13:27:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I wonder if we'll get 0x10c
L883[13:27:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Actually, I hope not.
L884[13:27:13] <DeanIsaKitty> What they may do is rewrite the core of minecraft to not be the ball of shitcode it is atm
L885[13:27:17] <ShadowKatStudios> I don't want a repeat of this crap.
L886[13:27:31] <dangranos> DeanIsaKitty, to be shitball of ads :3
L887[13:27:37] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos: Nah
L888[13:27:46] <ShadowKatStudios> How do you put ads in Minecraft?
L889[13:27:49] <DeanIsaKitty> only ingame ads
L890[13:27:53] <Techokami> yes, they rolled MSN into Skype and made Skype available on more platforms. Skype client really hasn't changed much and I use it daily
L891[13:27:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Paintings xD
L892[13:28:15] <dangranos> Techokami, skype does not work with ALSA
L893[13:28:26] <Techokami> sounds like an ALSA bug to me
L894[13:28:31] <dangranos> ...
L895[13:28:40] <Techokami> of course I never could get ALSA to play nicely with me
L896[13:28:47] <Techokami> multiplexing, WHAT'S THAT??
L897[13:28:57] <Wobbo> Techokami: Skype is pretty broken on both OS X and iOS
L898[13:29:19] <Wobbo> Techokami: I stopped using it because it didn't even do what it was supposed to do
L899[13:29:24] <Techokami> :/
L900[13:29:55] <dangranos> http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/No-sound-with-ALSA-after-recent-Skype-upgrade-4-2-gt-4-3-on/td-p/3219164
L901[13:29:55] <Wobbo> Techokami: Pretty regularly the connection would drop, and sometimes it couldn't even establish a connection
L902[13:29:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Skype not working with ALSA is my third-biggest issue with Microsoft.
L903[13:30:02] <dangranos> they dropped alsa support
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L905[13:30:04] <DeanIsaKitty> It *sounds* like µsoft wants to make their own modding tools. Byebye forge I guess... :/
L906[13:30:18] <dangranos> Dean: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
L907[13:30:18] <Techokami> <DeanIsaKitty> What they may do is rewrite the core of minecraft to not be the ball of shitcode it is atm <-- THIS, PLEASE
L908[13:30:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Of course they want to make modding tools- thye can sell them.
L909[13:30:32] <DeanIsaKitty> And its microsoft
L910[13:30:32] <Wobbo> Techokami: As long as they keep it Java
L911[13:30:33] <dangranos> ^
L912[13:30:41] <DeanIsaKitty> place bets on C# & F# please
L913[13:30:42] <dangranos> SKS and get moneys from mods
L914[13:30:56] <Techokami> Microsoft has the engineering talent, Minecraft 1.8 is a heap of shit internally from what I hear
L915[13:30:59] * ShadowKatStudios expects C# and DirectX from Microshit
L916[13:31:11] <DeanIsaKitty> I guess 90% C# with a F# core. 40€.
L917[13:31:33] <GUIpsp> I place my bet on "milking money" "modder licenses" "paid mods" and "paid texture packs" please
L918[13:31:35] <ShadowKatStudios> 1/4 my dogecoins it'll be DirectX.
L919[13:31:37] <DeanIsaKitty> DX only with some little OpenGL support for the (slower updated) Linux & OSX versions
L920[13:31:40] <ShadowKatStudios> $conv bal
L921[13:31:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Damnit.
L922[13:31:52] <GUIpsp> DeanIsaKitty, naah
L923[13:31:59] <GUIpsp> they won't bother with linux
L924[13:31:59] <Techokami> I hope you guys realise that C# is available on OSX and Linux in the form of Mono :o
L925[13:32:16] <GUIpsp> mono is shit tho
L926[13:32:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Techokami: do not bring that shitpiece of mono in here :<
L927[13:32:26] <ShadowKatStudios> But most things written in C# for Winderps doesn't run on mono
L928[13:32:28] <dangranos> GUIpsp, it will be over 9000 versions behind and then droppped
L929[13:32:29] <Techokami> tough croud
L930[13:32:44] <GUIpsp> not tough crowd
L931[13:32:47] <GUIpsp> saying it like it is
L932[13:32:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Its mostly because C# is MEANT to be Winderps only. Mono can't change that.
L933[13:33:03] <Wobbo> Techokami: But that is not supported by M$
L934[13:33:34] <Trangar> I like C#
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L936[13:34:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I dislike C#.
L937[13:34:05] <Techokami> Wobbo: Uh C# isn't directly controlled by Microsoft anymore. It's now controlled by a consortum which includes the Mono devs and Microsoft devs working together
L938[13:34:08] <GUIpsp> Wobbo, it's actually supported my ms now
L939[13:34:17] <Wobbo> It is? :O
L940[13:34:18] <GUIpsp> mono still shit tho
L941[13:34:38] <Wobbo> Then I got nothing against C#
L942[13:34:47] <Techokami> yes, the latest version of C# is actually free software, just that the .NET runtime is still closed on Windows
L943[13:35:19] <Wobbo> Techokami: So it is kinda like ObjC then I guess
L944[13:35:19] <Trangar> Techokami, they're working on rewriting the compiler in C#
L945[13:35:29] <Trangar> And making it open-source, afaik
L946[13:35:33] <Techokami> Trangar, they already did
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L948[13:35:45] <Techokami> lemme go fetch the link to their git repo
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L950[13:35:46] <Trangar> Oh well, I'm behind then
L951[13:35:57] <Trangar> https://roslyn.codeplex.com/ :D
L952[13:35:58] <DeanIsaKitty> notch.net/2014/09/im-leaving-mojang/ <- Another overloaded page of the events :P
L953[13:36:14] <Trangar> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/n1qTeikM
L954[13:36:48] <Techokami> Trangar: yep, that's the one. git clone https://git01.codeplex.com/roslyn
L955[13:37:07] <Wobbo> Trangar: .NET. Does that run on other systems than windows?
L956[13:37:13] <Trangar> Nope
L957[13:37:19] <Trangar> Mono does, but poorly
L958[13:37:23] <ShadowKatStudios> http://imgur.com/gallery/QcDvs
L959[13:37:38] <Techokami> Wobbo: .NET is the Windows-only version of the runtime. Mono is the runtime for all other platforms
L960[13:40:00] <ShadowKatStudios> DeanIsaKitty: "If I ever accidentally make something that seems to gain traction, I’ll probably abandon it immediately." I feel sorry for the guy.
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L962[13:40:37] * ShadowKatStudios is going to see if the situation is the same in other IRC channels
L963[13:40:52] <DeanIsaKitty> yeah, pretty much
L964[13:41:42] <ShadowKatStudios> #ftb is talking about the same thing.
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L966[13:41:57] <Wobbo> I'm really wondering with Sangar thinks about all of this
L967[13:42:03] <ShadowKatStudios> So is #tinkersconstruct
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L969[13:42:30] <DeanIsaKitty> Eh, I /am/ thankfully that my twitter is mostly politics & Science so I don't get all the shit currently being posted on twitter
L970[13:43:58] <DeanIsaKitty> But its interesting how the last two months were the worst for Mojang / Minecraft and it all started with a EULA change that ( According to Notch ) didn't actually change anything. ( Yes, ofc it changed a lot, everything to the worse )
L971[13:44:10] <Tahg> no, no it didn't really
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L973[13:44:54] <Tahg> it only affected a vocal minority who were freaking doing things they shouldn't have been in the first place
L974[13:44:55] <Vexatos> EULA did not change a lot
L975[13:45:01] <Vexatos> it just got enforced much more
L976[13:45:19] <Tahg> basically rich server owners
L977[13:45:21] <DeanIsaKitty> I havent dug into the legal part but i read what hypixel and other big server hosters wrote
L978[13:45:26] <Tahg> yes, well
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L980[13:45:45] <Tahg> expect them to be rather biased, cause that's exactly the group it affected
L981[13:45:59] <DeanIsaKitty> And by the change I meant the final outcome. Current situation.
L982[13:46:16] <Tahg> the Eula has nothing to do with the current situation tho
L983[13:47:04] <asie> there
L984[13:47:07] <asie> was no EULA change
L985[13:47:07] <asie> ever
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L987[13:47:15] <asie> they just made a form so you can report infringing servers to Mojang
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L989[13:47:20] <asie> and in 1.7.9+ you need to accept the EULA to run a server
L990[13:47:23] <asie> that's *******IT*******
L991[13:47:52] <ShadowKatStudios> What is it? The EULA form or Microsoft owning Mojang?
L992[13:48:10] <Tahg> whose "it"?
L993[13:48:21] <ShadowKatStudios> asie's it.
L994[13:48:39] <Tahg> Eula I think
L995[13:48:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Ok, so EULA didn't change. But Bukkit died, Notch got pissed of by the shitstorm, µsoft now owns Minecraft and no one except µsoft knows what the future might bring.
L996[13:49:12] <Tahg> all completely seperate incidents
L997[13:49:22] <Tahg> that just happened to all fall around the same time
L998[13:49:30] <Tahg> or well, I guess semi-related
L999[13:49:40] <Tahg> but MS wasn't afaik
L1000[13:49:48] <DeanIsaKitty> YES, I know that they are not related!
L1001[13:50:27] <DeanIsaKitty> But a game of 5 years success just managed to attract more drama in 2 months than in the last 4.5 years
L1002[13:50:35] <Tahg> yep, well
L1003[13:50:41] <Tahg> those things happen sometime
L1004[13:51:02] <Tahg> it's either gonna change it for the better or for the worse
L1005[13:51:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Or not at all
L1006[13:51:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Under the hood it will very likely
L1007[13:51:22] <Tahg> eh, I'm doubting that
L1008[13:51:23] <Wobbo> Or all at the same time
L1009[13:51:42] <DeanIsaKitty> But the biggest part of MC & the community wont notice to much i hope
L1010[13:51:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Everything except Modding i guess.
L1011[13:52:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Modding took a huge hit already.
L1012[13:52:30] <DeanIsaKitty> And now cpw is gone \o/
L1013[13:52:30] <ShadowKatStudios> All the hardcore OSS people awake already left.
L1014[13:52:45] <DeanIsaKitty> *cough*asie*cough*
L1015[13:53:08] <ShadowKatStudios> And to think it was all going so well...
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L1017[13:53:19] <Wobbo> DeanIsaKitty: Asie is waiting for his tea to be cool enough for drinking :P
L1018[13:53:19] <Vexatos> http://asie.pl/drama.php
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L1020[13:53:41] <DeanIsaKitty> asie being asie :D
L1021[13:53:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Classy as hell
L1022[13:53:55] <Wobbo> I love it
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L1024[13:55:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh my god.
L1025[13:55:14] <ShadowKatStudios> So true.
L1026[13:55:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Csstform, life is over!
L1027[13:55:41] <asie> DeanIsaKitty: http://asie.pl/drama.php
L1028[13:55:41] <asie> fixed it
L1029[13:55:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Mojang has been bought out by microsoft.
L1030[13:55:54] * DeanIsaKitty bows down to asie
L1031[13:56:11] <DeanIsaKitty> I officially admit that you are one of the most classy persons i know.
L1032[13:56:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Heck, by far the most classy
L1033[13:56:27] <ShadowKatStudios> asie is the epitime of classy
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L1035[13:56:39] zsh sets mode: +v on tgame14
L1036[13:56:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I think that's the right word.
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L1038[13:57:29] <DeanIsaKitty> epitome
L1039[13:57:39] <ShadowKatStudios> shh
L1040[13:57:40] <pjht> why are there not three tiers of remote terminals?
L1041[13:57:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I meant to say that
L1042[13:57:46] <pjht> me?
L1043[13:58:01] <ShadowKatStudios> nope.
L1044[13:58:05] <pjht> ok
L1045[13:58:12] <asie> also
L1046[13:58:16] <pjht> why are there not three tiers of remote terminals?
L1047[13:58:16] <asie> don't tell anyone
L1048[13:58:20] <asie> but you can click "no more tries"
L1049[13:58:23] <asie> and it still works
L1050[13:58:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Can't actually break the drama generator, right?
L1051[13:58:45] <Wobbo> pjht: There was something with tier one being tier two or something. Can't Quite remeber
L1052[13:58:57] <Wobbo> asie: That was easy to find out :P
L1053[13:59:19] <ShadowKatStudios> I clicked it anyway \o/
L1054[14:00:19] <pjht> why dont servers have a built in floppy drive?
L1055[14:00:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh yeah
L1056[14:00:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Microsoft owns bukkit.... 0.0
L1057[14:00:49] <Wobbo> [insert dramatic something here]
L1058[14:00:51] <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: why is life over?
L1059[14:01:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Csstform: Mojang sold out to Micro$oft
L1060[14:01:13] <pjht> really, why don't servers have a built in floppy drive?
L1061[14:01:29] <DeanIsaKitty> why should they??
L1062[14:01:30] <Csstform> :O
L1063[14:01:50] <pjht> so you dont have to attach one to boot it up.
L1064[14:02:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Pre-install the OS?
L1065[14:02:11] <DeanIsaKitty> ^^
L1066[14:02:14] <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: there is only one thing we can hope will come out of this
L1067[14:02:24] <pjht> yep.
L1068[14:02:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Death?
L1069[14:02:34] <Csstform> Steam integration :D
L1070[14:02:48] <Csstform> :3
L1071[14:03:07] <ShadowKatStudios> True, true.
L1072[14:03:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Still, cpw left.
L1073[14:03:15] <pjht> yep, to pre-install the os.
L1074[14:03:56] <Vexatos> .drama
L1075[14:03:57] <^v> Vexatos, 402 Payment Required
L1076[14:04:00] <Vexatos> Dangit
L1077[14:04:02] <Wobbo> .drama
L1078[14:04:03] <^v> Wobbo, 402 Payment Required
L1079[14:04:05] <Vexatos> .tip asie 10
L1080[14:04:09] <Vexatos> %tip asie 10
L1081[14:04:13] <Wobbo> $bal
L1082[14:04:13] <Vexatos> GRARG
L1083[14:04:14] <Vexatos> PING
L1084[14:04:16] <Vexatos> COME BACK
L1085[14:04:19] <Ender> lol
L1086[14:04:21] <Wobbo> ^vDoge is offline
L1087[14:04:24] <Vexatos> I need to pay asie
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L1089[14:04:35] <Wobbo> Ender: Mojang is sold to M$, I case you missed it
L1090[14:04:55] <DeanIsaKitty> HOW COULD YOU HAVE MISSED THAT?
L1091[14:05:05] <Ender> i was away maybe?
L1092[14:05:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Under a rock in space on jupiter eating ice cream?
L1093[14:05:16] <DeanIsaKitty> The last few weeks?
L1094[14:05:23] <DeanIsaKitty> ShadowKatStudios: Seems likely
L1095[14:05:41] <Ender> DeanIsaKitty: i knew they were trying to buy mojang. i didnt know they actually did it
L1096[14:05:47] <ShadowKatStudios> While listening to metal music? Cause I think you could hear the collective noooo from space.
L1097[14:06:41] <Csstform> Soooooooooooooo this means no PS support, probably.... sux for them....
L1098[14:07:03] <Forecaster> the release said they'd keep working on the ps version
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L1101[14:07:36] <Csstform> Forecaster: thats what MOJANG said. I dont trust microsoft with the competition
L1102[14:07:59] <Csstform> they never released halo for anything but their own platforms
L1103[14:09:20] <Wobbo> Csstform: PCGamingMasterRace :P
L1104[14:09:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Question: If mods had the same intellectual property lisence violations as pirated mods, would you guys still use them?
L1105[14:09:37] <ShadowKatStudios> s/d mods/d games
L1106[14:09:37] <Kibibyte> <ShadowKatStudios> Question: If mods had the same intellectual property lisence violations as pirated games, would you guys still use them?
L1107[14:10:03] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Probably not. To hard to get by.
L1108[14:10:03] <Forecaster> ShadowKatStudios: assuming they're of the same quality as current mods?
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L1110[14:11:33] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios: i'll just remind you that i have a disk that can install any edition of win 7 and activate it without a product key
L1111[14:11:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Csstform: µsoft themselves said they will support playstation. Don't know how much is true though
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L1113[14:12:23] <Forecaster> ^
L1114[14:12:30] <Forecaster> that's what I was referring to
L1115[14:12:39] <Csstform> ah, k
L1116[14:12:56] <DeanIsaKitty> That is why we plan to continue to make Minecraft available across platforms – including iOS, Android and PlayStation, in addition to Xbox and PC.
L1117[14:14:28] <DeanIsaKitty> "Our investments in cloud, Xbox Live and mobile technology will enable players to benefit from richer and faster worlds, more powerful development tools, and more opportunities to connect with the Minecraft community." This sentence, this small sentence worries me the most :/
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L1119[14:19:37] <Csstform> DeanIsaKitty: linnk plx
L1120[14:22:47] <DeanIsaKitty> http://news.xbox.com/2014/09/games-minecraft-to-join-microsoft
L1121[14:22:53] <DeanIsaKitty> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2014/sept14/09-15news.aspx
L1122[14:23:02] <DeanIsaKitty> http://notch.net/2014/09/im-leaving-mojang/
L1123[14:23:25] <DeanIsaKitty> https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/
L1124[14:26:36] <Csstform> thx
L1125[14:27:21] <dangranos> DeanIsaKitty, i wish we had bash bot here
L1126[14:27:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I wish I could get off my ass and write a lisp bot
L1127[14:28:49] <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: get off your ass and make that item thinggy
L1128[14:29:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I just installed clisp
L1129[14:34:28] <Csstform> \o/
L1130[14:34:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Thanks ShadowKatStudios. You just added Lisp nagbot to my ToDo list ._.
L1131[14:35:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Not a problem :D
L1132[14:35:15] * ShadowKatStudios needs a to-do list
L1133[14:36:07] * DeanIsaKitty gives ShadowKatStudios http://xkcd.com/297/
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L1135[14:36:56] <ShadowKatStudios> http://imgur.com/gallery/DofYmRj I used to live there :D
L1136[14:37:30] * ShadowKatStudios wonders if parenthesises can be sharpened and thrown
L1137[14:38:38] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: there is already a clisp bot.
L1138[14:38:48] <Wobbo> You can make changes to that
L1139[14:39:56] <ShadowKatStudios> I want to write my own.
L1140[14:40:26] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: will it be able to evaluate random lisp code?
L1141[14:40:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Dunno.
L1142[14:40:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Maybe.
L1143[14:40:53] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios: http://imgur.com/gallery/YdVI5AR
L1144[14:40:57] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Because in that case it is a bad idea
L1145[14:41:22] <Wobbo> Ender: LOL
L1146[14:41:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, my god, that is amazing.
L1147[14:42:18] <Vexatos> It is
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L1149[14:48:06] <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: is it done yet?
L1150[14:48:39] <DeanIsAway> Csstform: Is your game done yet?
L1151[14:48:42] <ShadowKatStudios> It's been 15 minutes, I haven't even started >.<
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L1153[14:48:58] <Csstform> DeanIsAway: no, still in paper stage
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L1155[14:49:21] <Csstform> I've been fleshing out all the inner workings I want
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L1157[14:51:47] <Wobbo> Making assignment in Matlab/Octave, hardest thing: plotting a distribution on top of a histogram >.<
L1158[14:51:49] *** DeanIsAway is now known as DeanIsaKitty
L1159[14:52:02] <Ender> http://imgur.com/gallery/oyP3GOe
L1160[14:52:08] <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: it's been like, five more minutes, started yet?
L1161[14:52:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Csstform: I've progressed -0.3%
L1162[14:53:32] <Csstform> ;-;
L1163[14:54:23] * Csstform kicks ShadowKatStudios in the pants
L1164[14:54:40] * ShadowKatStudios stabs Csstform with a laptop charger
L1165[14:55:43] * Csstform shoves his notes on Parliament down ShadowKatStudios's throat
L1166[14:56:02] * ShadowKatStudios digests the paper
L1167[14:56:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm an omnivore (bitch!)
L1168[14:56:20] <Csstform> gg, I used poison as ink
L1169[14:57:27] <ShadowKatStudios> ... Touch'e
L1170[14:57:31] <Csstform> and, by poison, I mean a hallucenant that sends you into a state of shock that only lets you make bots
L1171[14:57:46] * ShadowKatStudios hallucinates that he is sane
L1172[14:57:49] <dangranos> sleeping?
L1173[14:58:00] <Csstform> specifically, item thinggy bots in lisp
L1174[14:58:10] <dangranos> wait
L1175[14:58:18] <dangranos> it is not #ocmadness
L1176[14:59:34] * Csstform pokes ShadowKatStudios into a state of bot programming
L1177[15:00:09] * ShadowKatStudios prods Csstform with some mains cables
L1178[15:00:47] * dangranos stares at 2 crazy guys
L1179[15:00:50] * DeanIsaKitty gives ShadowKatStudios a proper antidote
L1180[15:01:01] <DeanIsaKitty> http://imgur.com/a/J7kZJ?gallery
L1181[15:01:04] <dangranos> s/2/3
L1182[15:01:04] <Kibibyte> * dangranos stares at 3 crazy guys
L1183[15:01:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Yeah, I looked at that one.
L1184[15:01:20] <dangranos> saw it already
L1185[15:01:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Ender / ShadowKatStudios you should probably add imgur functionality to your bots
L1186[15:02:12] <dangranos> this is good dirt roads btw
L1187[15:02:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Mine is going to be for item handling functionality (so I can make more dogecoins)
L1188[15:02:45] <Csstform> DeanIsaKitty: the most I've done on the game computer-wise is make a reddit page: http://www.reddit.com/r/BlackRainGame/
L1189[15:03:35] <Csstform> Are'nt my CSS skills amazing?
L1190[15:03:39] <DeanIsaKitty> noper
L1191[15:03:52] <Wobbo> Csstform: Amazing. Don't know how you did it
L1192[15:04:07] <ShadowKatStudios> my eyes are bleeding
L1193[15:04:14] <dangranos> ^
L1194[15:04:16] <asie> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bxk-JA6IYAAlgte.jpg
L1195[15:04:27] <dangranos> guys
L1196[15:04:34] <dangranos> stop, i am trying to do homework
L1197[15:04:50] <ShadowKatStudios> So you're here?
L1198[15:04:59] <ShadowKatStudios> I tried to both be here and do homework once.
L1199[15:05:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Doesn't work.
L1200[15:05:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Ender, kick dangranos?
L1201[15:05:21] <dangranos> nopls
L1202[15:05:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Do your homework!
L1203[15:05:36] <ShadowKatStudios> I should be doing my science homework, it's due today \o/
L1204[15:05:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Do your homework!
L1205[15:05:56] <DeanIsaKitty> ok, fuck that
L1206[15:06:02] <DeanIsaKitty> hang out with us!
L1207[15:06:30] <Csstform> Wait
L1208[15:06:42] <Csstform> Did you guys just bash my CSS?
L1209[15:06:49] <Csstform> ;-;
L1210[15:07:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes. But fear not Csstform, I hate all people equally.
L1211[15:07:41] <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: good. I was worried some of you weren't sane and actually liked it
L1212[15:07:44] <ShadowKatStudios> DeanIsaKitty: You expect me to do school work? o.O
L1213[15:08:19] <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: [11:05] <DeanIsaKitty> ok, fuck that
L1214[15:09:04] <Csstform> I would say no, so get back to work on that lispy thing
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L1223[15:23:20] <ShadowKatStudios> http://imgur.com/gallery/BY7Ue82
L1224[15:24:25] <Vexatos> "Just dell with it"
L1225[15:28:21] <DeanIsaKitty> The worst thing is that nowhere Microsoft looses a word about Linux & Mac Support. And that is usually a very bad thing. :/
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L1228[15:30:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Indeed. Especially for those that exclusively run Linux.
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L1230[15:30:33] <DeanIsaKitty> µsoft like Xamarin ( Like a lot ) but that does /not/ support Linux.
L1231[15:31:28] <Csstform> That is the one upside of java..... multi-platform
L1232[15:33:29] <DeanIsaKitty> If they'll stay with Java everything is fine. But it is µsoft after all. Maybe they want to unify stuff, making it one game running on ( nearly ) every platform. C#/Mono/Xamiran would really work well for that and while Minecraft would get immensely faster with a rewrite I do not see a future for official Linux support then.
L1233[15:34:29] <dangranos> u$ will make even java to run only under windows
L1234[15:34:41] * Csstform goes and starts drawig up a petition for linux support
L1235[15:35:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Considering that they don't think of Linux users as people, I can see that happening.
L1236[15:38:52] <Csstform> https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-keep-linux-support-for-minecraft#share
L1237[15:39:06] <Csstform> done. sign on the dotted line.
L1238[15:39:24] <DeanIsaKitty> noper
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L1240[15:39:40] <Csstform> ;-;
L1241[15:39:45] <progwml6|L> i doubt mojang is dumb enough to not force MS to keep compatibility
L1242[15:39:46] <Csstform> DeanIsaKitty: whynot?
L1243[15:40:06] <DeanIsaKitty> progwml6|L: Will they have a choice?
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L1245[15:40:11] <ShadowKatStudios> SOrry, I don't sign stuff where third parties will get my info. \o/
L1246[15:40:22] <DeanIsaKitty> ^
L1247[15:41:04] <progwml6|L> when companies are bought certain conditions can be put in the contract
L1248[15:43:47] <Ender> well, unless they plan on switching minecraft to c++ or some shit it will still run on linux (because java)
L1249[15:44:15] <dangranos> Ender, they will switch to C# with .Net
L1250[15:44:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Ugh, we'll have to do manual natives.
L1251[15:44:47] <dangranos> can C# be obfuscated?
L1252[15:45:01] <Ender> well, minecraft goes down the drain then cause that will also kill off all of the mods which IMO has kept minecraft going for as long as it has
L1253[15:46:19] <ShadowKatStudios> It's crazy, Mojang never recoignized the fact that so much of the replay value of MC was mods.
L1254[15:46:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Ender, Minecraft is already far over its peak. Its just that no one wants to realize that.
L1255[15:47:00] <dangranos> i think community is dying already
L1256[15:47:16] <SuPeRMiNoR2> arrrrg... i just saw the news
L1257[15:48:30] <vifino> :o
L1258[15:48:33] <vifino> a SuPeRMiNoR2!
L1259[15:48:55] <Ender> ohai SuPeRMiNoR2
L1260[15:49:07] <ShadowKatStudios> SuPeRMiNoR2: And life is over, right?
L1261[15:49:16] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ShadowKatStudios: it might be
L1262[15:49:38] <Ender> well, only thing i can say to this news is. bring on the opensource similars
L1263[15:49:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Before today, I never realised how much my life was built around Minecraft.
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L1265[15:50:40] <Csstform> "Microsoft expects the acquisition to be break-even in FY15 on a GAAP basis."
L1266[15:50:55] <Csstform> How much fucking money does MC make? O.o
L1267[15:50:56] <Ender> i think i have probably spent a good 2,000 + on minecraft, probably would have only been about 50-100 without the mods
L1268[15:51:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Moneys?
L1269[15:51:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, hours.
L1270[15:51:38] <Ender> yeah
L1271[15:51:45] <Ender> should have specified that
L1272[15:51:55] <progwml6|L> tons of it Csstform tons
L1273[15:52:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Csstform: Monitor how many sales MC makes in an hour, then times it by 24, and then by 365, then by the current sale price, and you get how much money it makes.
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L1275[15:53:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Well Ender, my friends are mostly Minecraft-related, my computers are benchmarked using Minecraft, I've PF'd all my routers for MC, I spend too much time on MC, and I have no life outside of it. >.<
L1276[15:54:10] <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: that bot finished yet?
L1277[15:54:15] <Csstform> s/finished/started
L1278[15:54:15] <Kibibyte> <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: that bot started yet?
L1279[15:54:34] <ShadowKatStudios> No, it is not.
L1280[15:54:48] <Ender> home time
L1281[15:54:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I don't want to try writing lisp in this state. I need to be capible of mental when I write lisp.
L1282[15:55:35] <Techokami> you need to be mental to write lisp :V
L1283[15:55:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Techokami, however, being burned out does not help.
L1284[15:56:04] <Techokami> indeed
L1285[15:56:10] <ShadowKatStudios> You need enthusiasm. I lack /any/ at the moment.
L1286[15:56:30] * vifino gdb's ShadowKatStudios
L1287[15:56:38] * vifino dumps
L1288[15:56:45] * vifino inspects
L1289[15:56:45] <Csstform> Oops
L1290[15:57:02] <vifino> Ah, i see what could help.
L1291[15:57:08] * vifino hugs ShadowKatStudios
L1292[15:57:12] <Csstform> I just f*kd my tablet...... now it doesnt even show a blue screen of death D:
L1293[15:57:19] * ShadowKatStudios hugs vifino
L1294[15:57:29] <vifino> \o/ It worked!
L1295[15:57:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Csstform, why would your tablet BSOD?
L1296[15:57:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Besides, cake.
L1297[15:58:04] * DeanIsaKitty tackles ShadowKatStudios to the groud
L1298[15:58:05] <Csstform> ShadowKatStudios: well, the startup screen was a blue screen, and it never passed it
L1299[15:58:18] <Csstform> so I plugged it into the computer and raped it
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L1301[15:58:23] <Csstform> now it doesnt like me
L1302[15:58:33] <ShadowKatStudios> I have been tackled by a cat! To the ground even!
L1303[15:58:41] <mindstorm8191> morning everyone. does anyone know if I can label external components?
L1304[16:01:12] <ShadowKatStudios> fffsss, phosphor trails. I think it's time I went to bed.
L1305[16:01:58] <Csstform> http://game.notch.net/drowning/#
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L1307[16:05:45] <vifino> SKSAsleep :(
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L1309[16:08:44] <SKSAsleep> Sorry vifino, but I figure I'kk feel better tomorrow after I yell at some muggles
L1310[16:08:49] <SKSAsleep> whoa de ja vu
L1311[16:10:23] * vifino hugs SKSAsleep
L1312[16:10:28] <vifino> Bai :<
L1313[16:12:12] <SKSAsleep> It's nice to know people care, even if not in the real world.
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L1325[16:46:39] <Ender> stupid router died
L1326[16:47:32] <Ender> brb, dinner
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L1330[17:06:07] <skyem123> ._.
L1331[17:06:56] <skyem123> lets hope microsoft isn't too stupid
L1332[17:07:14] <NixillUmbreon> yup
L1333[17:07:23] <NixillUmbreon> this better happen still: http://web.archive.org/web/20100301103851/http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp
L1334[17:07:28] <NixillUmbreon> (last paragrahp)
L1335[17:08:36] <skyem123> Microsoft probably won't kill mods. Yhet
L1336[17:09:18] <skyem123> s/Yhet/They are a selling point for it.
L1337[17:09:18] <Kibibyte> <skyem123> Microsoft probably won't kill mods. They are a selling point for it.
L1338[17:09:39] <Ender> back
L1339[17:09:52] <mindstorm8191> ...okay, my LUA knowledge sucks. How do I set up a table?
L1340[17:10:06] <Ender> a = { }
L1341[17:10:12] <Ender> .l
L1342[17:10:12] <^v> Ender, nil
L1343[17:10:14] <ping> well atleast you know how to spell knowledge
L1344[17:10:27] <ping> was only one in 3rd grade that could do it
L1345[17:10:31] <Ender> .l a = { }; print( type(a) )
L1346[17:10:31] <^v> Ender, nil
L1347[17:10:42] <Ender> .l a = { }; return type(a)
L1348[17:10:42] <^v> Ender, table
L1349[17:10:43] <ping> ._.
L1350[17:10:49] <ping> bugggggggg
L1351[17:10:51] <Ender> lo.
L1352[17:10:54] <Ender> lol*
L1353[17:11:42] <Ender> i think HowToBasic is running out of ideas.... http://puu.sh/bAcUH/52b21887d3.jpg
L1354[17:12:22] <mindstorm8191> okay thanks... got that working. Now I can't figure out how to differentiate between these two redstone devices. is there a way I can label a device?
L1355[17:12:24] <skyem123> ._.
L1356[17:12:31] <ping> .addwin http://puu.sh/bAcUH/52b21887d3.jpg
L1357[17:12:44] <ping> mindstorm8191, the first three letters
L1358[17:12:47] <ping> remember them
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L1362[17:15:28] * mindstorm8191 now can't be certain he's setting the correct sides on the bundled cable outputs here :/
L1363[17:16:00] <Wobbo> o/
L1364[17:16:08] <mindstorm8191> hi wobbo
L1365[17:16:13] <skyem123> \o
L1366[17:16:22] <skyem123> noooooo
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L1368[17:17:16] <Kodos> So, the rumor is true apparently
L1369[17:17:55] <Csstform> Kodos: very true
L1370[17:17:55] <skyem123> God help us.
L1371[17:18:15] <mindstorm8191> what rumor??
L1372[17:18:18] <Kodos> http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-buy-minecraft-creator-mojang-2-5-bn-141646822.html
L1373[17:19:05] <Magik6k> yep, it appears to be: https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/
L1374[17:20:29] <Ender> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feTytlRd2KY
L1375[17:20:29] -Kibibyte- [Ender] Mine Mine Mine for 10 minutes | by 0tanaka0 | 10m1s | 174w2d ago | 515,54 views | Rated: 4.53/5.00
L1376[17:21:12] <Ender> als ping, you might want to add a different link to that puush link because it'll expire after some time
L1377[17:21:34] <ping> Ender, which one
L1378[17:21:37] <Kodos> I've got half a mind to go into #minecraft and swear at Dinnerbone and Grum for being corporate sellouts
L1379[17:21:52] <Ender> the puush one you added to the 'win' list or whatever
L1380[17:22:05] <Kodos> Ender, it only expires if it doesn't get viewed in 2 weeks
L1381[17:22:10] <Wobbo> $bal
L1382[17:22:11] <^vDoge> Wobbo, Ɖ3720
L1383[17:22:11] <Ender> ahh
L1384[17:22:14] <Ender> $bal
L1385[17:22:14] <^vDoge> Ender, Ɖ5000
L1386[17:22:19] <Ender> $conv bal
L1387[17:22:20] <^vDoge> Ender, Ɖ5000 = $1.7363 €1.3448 £1.0687
L1388[17:22:26] <ping> the win doesnt exist
L1389[17:22:27] <Wobbo> $conv bal
L1390[17:22:27] <ping> >_>
L1391[17:22:28] <^vDoge> Wobbo, Ɖ3720 = $1.2918 €1.0005 £0.7951
L1392[17:22:33] <Csstform> $bal
L1393[17:22:33] <^vDoge> Csstform, Ɖ990
L1394[17:22:38] <Ender> \o/ that could buy me a can of monster
L1395[17:22:52] <Csstform> $help
L1396[17:22:52] <^vDoge> Csstform, commands: help tip send balance withdraw deposit conv
L1397[17:23:08] <mindstorm8191> well, this could actually be a good thing. Maybe the developers from microsoft can push minecraft in a better direction than Mojang could
L1398[17:23:08] <Csstform> $deposit
L1399[17:23:09] <^vDoge> Csstform, Your deposit address is DK6mSdoZLNcCKSKqgTrK4tRSJoh1CaBQgK
L1400[17:23:17] <Csstform> mindstorm8191: /maybe/
L1401[17:23:29] <mindstorm8191> Csstform: yes, I know that's a big maybe
L1402[17:23:30] <Csstform> s/maybe/MEBBE NOT
L1403[17:23:31] <Kibibyte> <mindstorm8191> Csstform: yes, I know that's a big MEBBE NOT
L1404[17:23:37] <Csstform> :P
L1405[17:24:28] <Ender> well, they might be better at version control (i.e. not having a whole new version just for one small feature *cough* horses *cough* )
L1406[17:24:41] <mindstorm8191> ender: lol
L1407[17:25:07] <mindstorm8191> but what I worry about is continued mod support, and the game still being free to play
L1408[17:25:08] <Kodos> The only reason I think I'd come back to MC at this point, is if Microsoft put it in a different engine
L1409[17:25:19] <Kodos> And you know, actually published a modding API
L1410[17:25:26] <Ender> or releasing subversions before the major version is actually released
L1411[17:26:15] <mindstorm8191> yeah, I don't think anyone cared that much about horses
L1412[17:26:29] <mindstorm8191> after all, there isn't a major horse mod, is there?
L1413[17:26:43] <Ender> mindstorm8191, MoCreatures
L1414[17:27:06] <mindstorm8191> Ender: yes but that adds so many more mobs than just horses
L1415[17:27:12] <Ender> the dev, DrZarhk actually helped put the horses in, that's the only reason they were done better
L1416[17:27:15] <Ender> s/better/good
L1417[17:27:15] <Kibibyte> <Ender> the dev, DrZarhk actually helped put the horses in, that's the only reason they were done good
L1418[17:27:48] <mindstorm8191> oh... interesting...
L1419[17:27:54] <Ender> mindstorm8191, yeah, it's not updated for 1.7.10 yet though so i cant use it :(
L1420[17:28:23] <Ender> well, i could use it but i'm not actually actively on 1.6.4 anymore
L1421[17:29:06] * mindstorm8191 wants to see a mod that adds diablo II style combat and randomized monsters
L1422[17:30:35] *** Kodos is now known as Kodos|Out
L1423[17:33:59] <Kodos|Out> Fucking microsoft, now I'm gonna be pissed all day
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L1425[17:34:15] * skyem123 pets Kodos|Out
L1426[17:35:48] <Ender> anyone that plays on my server: can you go vote on http://strawpoll.me/2575255 for me?
L1427[17:38:38] <skyem123> hm...
L1428[17:39:23] <Wobbo> Ender: Something else: Wait for all the world generating mods to update, go to 1.7.10, add the rest as they are updated
L1429[17:40:02] <Ender> Wobbo, for world gen i was thinking about using either BWG4's caveworld or Mystcraft's caveworld
L1430[17:40:19] <Wobbo> Ender: But some mods add ores and stuff
L1431[17:40:20] <Ender> will note that reply down though
L1432[17:40:48] <Ender> Wobbo, eh, the way the gamemode is going to be set makes that not much of an issue
L1433[17:40:49] <Kodos|Out> Someone suggest other games that are moddable
L1434[17:40:49] <Wobbo> Ender: It would be nice if those ores could be found in the whole world, not just parts generated after date X
L1435[17:41:00] <skyem123> If Microsoft mess up, I'm switching to linux.
L1436[17:41:12] <Wobbo> Ender: No more survival?
L1437[17:41:13] <Kodos|Out> You should already be on Linux
L1438[17:41:20] <Ender> Kodos|Out, SE, GMod others probably
L1439[17:41:25] <Wobbo> ^ Or OS X.
L1440[17:41:27] <Csstform> ^
L1441[17:41:31] <Ender> Wobbo, creative-survival hybrid
L1442[17:41:41] <skyem123> I want to set-up a hackintosh
L1443[17:41:44] <Csstform> ^(to Kodos's comment)
L1444[17:41:55] <Wobbo> Ender: So everybody is constantly in Creative? :P
L1445[17:42:00] <Kodos|Out> Wobbo, no one wants your shitty Crapple OSs =P
L1446[17:42:08] <Ender> sorta, will tell more details when i feel the poll has enough votes
L1447[17:42:20] <Csstform> Ender: dafakisdisserver?
L1448[17:42:42] <Wobbo> Kodos|Out: The open group wants my Crapple OS :P
L1449[17:42:44] <Ender> Csstform, The Enderverse, it's in the server section of the OC forums
L1450[17:43:03] <Csstform> hm
L1451[17:43:19] <Csstform> tbh, what I want is a vanilla server to tinker with
L1452[17:43:32] <Csstform> anyone know of any?
L1453[17:43:39] <Ender> nope
L1454[17:43:44] <Csstform> or would be willing to host one? :3
L1455[17:43:45] <Ender> i dont do vanilla
L1456[17:44:05] <Wobbo> Ender: Vanilla + OpenComputers? :P
L1457[17:44:23] <Csstform> Ender: vanilla + bukkit?
L1458[17:44:25] <Ender> Wobbo, maybe but i dont feel like starting up an extra server at the moment
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L1460[17:55:53] <mindstorm8191> okay, i can't figure out why I can't output signals from both the computer's redstone card and the redstone component block on my 3rd floor
L1461[18:00:33] <mindstorm8191> ah ok, I had the sides incorrect... this is confusing...
L1462[18:03:55] <Kodos|Out> Sides are relative to the computer's facing
L1463[18:04:02] <Kodos|Out> With the side facing you being 'front'
L1464[18:04:37] <mindstorm8191> hmm, okay... but what about redstone component blocks? it seems their facing is relative to north & south
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L1467[18:05:09] <Kodos|Out> Yup, you'd specify their side by cardinal direction
L1468[18:11:41] * skyem123 pets asie
L1469[18:14:44] *** ConcernedHobbit is now known as EarlyBirdSleeping
L1470[18:17:58] <Wobbo> mindstorm8191: using cardial directions is always safe
L1471[18:18:02] <gamax92> >_>
L1472[18:18:13] <gamax92> dosfstools has the worst indendation
L1473[18:18:44] <gamax92> you have to have 8tab spacing, and its formatted to 4 tabs, using a tab as 2 4tabs, and 4spaces as a 1 4tab
L1474[18:20:40] <skyem123> err
L1475[18:20:42] <skyem123> wat
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L1477[18:21:45] <gamax92> like, instead of 3 tabs (indentation to 12 characters), its 1 tab and 4 spaces.
L1478[18:22:00] <skyem123> ._.
L1479[18:22:02] <skyem123> wat
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L1483[18:29:03] <mindstorm8191> ...okay, whats the command to make a computer sleep / wait? I thought it was sleep(time in seconds), but it returned an error saying the function doesn't exist
L1484[18:29:17] <skyem123> os.sleep()
L1485[18:29:34] <skyem123> remember to require os
L1486[18:32:56] <mindstorm8191> hmm, it seemed to have worked without the require os part
L1487[18:33:17] <Kodos|Out> You sure you're not using CC ;-D
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L1489[18:33:53] <Wobbo> Kodos|Out: os is a stdlib
L1490[18:34:03] <Wobbo> Kodos|Out: so it is in _G
L1491[18:34:28] <Kodos|Out> Yes, but CC doesn't need the require("os")
L1492[18:34:30] <Kodos|Out> OC does
L1493[18:34:40] <Kodos|Out> ANd he said it was working without requiring it
L1494[18:35:32] <mindstorm8191> Kodos|Out: yes, I know the difference between OC and CC
L1495[18:35:38] <Wobbo> Kodos|Out: OC does not need to require("os")
L1496[18:35:50] <Kodos|Out> Fucking hell
L1497[18:35:53] <Kodos|Out> I was making a damn joke
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L1499[18:36:13] <mindstorm8191> and... YAY!! I can now auto-craft a piston! :D
L1500[18:36:40] <gamax92> ping: tell vifino to stop being an asshole.
L1501[18:36:47] <vifino> dud
L1502[18:36:50] <gamax92> no
L1503[18:36:52] <gamax92> shut the fuck up
L1504[18:36:57] <vifino> .-.
L1505[18:37:01] <vifino> yo
L1506[18:37:06] <vifino> r
L1507[18:37:06] <gamax92> go fuck yourself vifino
L1508[18:37:07] <vifino> not
L1509[18:37:09] <vifino> banned
L1510[18:37:21] <gamax92> * Cannot join #ocbots (You are banned).
L1511[18:37:24] <gamax92> bullshit vifino
L1512[18:37:30] <vifino> nvm
L1513[18:37:31] <gamax92> stop fucking lying
L1514[18:37:43] <vifino> i forgot to unban you, but i -b'd u
L1515[18:39:10] <mindstorm8191> ugh... the complexity grows...
L1516[18:40:02] <mindstorm8191> I need to find a way to, either determine that all the items have flowed to the correct place to craft the item, or the item has completed being crafted
L1517[18:41:03] <mindstorm8191> ...preferrably the first option, so that I can then know when to start crafting the next item
L1518[18:49:57] <ping> please dont fight in here >_>
L1519[18:50:47] <ping> im done with this flag shit
L1520[18:50:56] <ping> ^v will control ocbots from now on
L1521[18:51:02] <ping> nobody gets cs flags
L1522[18:51:57] <vifino> ping: wat
L1523[18:52:19] <Wobbo> ^v for operator!
L1524[18:52:26] <gamax92> Vote ^v for operator!
L1525[18:52:48] <vifino> ping: Soo, it will be like #ccbots
L1526[18:52:52] <vifino> failed and dumb
L1527[18:53:40] <ping> >_> i know
L1528[18:53:53] <ping> but you whiny little bitches cant manage it
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L1531[19:03:21] <vifino> ping: Totally
L1532[19:03:40] <vifino> You could unban me.
L1533[19:04:05] <vifino> But you wont, because that bitch gamax92 is just going to freak out.
L1534[19:07:17] <vifino> ping: Yap, i guessed right.
L1535[19:09:14] <Ender> dont bitchfight in here or i will mute you
L1536[19:09:39] <asie> so mDiyo is gone too now
L1537[19:09:44] <asie> time to work on my own sandbox.
L1538[19:09:47] <Ender> lol
L1539[19:11:16] <Vexatos> asie: I'll certainly help you add content
L1540[19:11:23] <Vexatos> once you're done doing ugly frameworking
L1541[19:11:26] <Vexatos> :P
L1542[19:12:08] <asie> Computronics 2
L1543[19:12:58] <Vexatos> 2.0
L1544[19:12:59] <Vexatos> Yesh
L1545[19:13:08] <Vexatos> I'd even do that
L1546[19:13:27] * skyem123 pets asie
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L1549[19:24:58] <Wobbo> .drama
L1550[19:24:58] <^v> Wobbo, 402 Payment Required
L1551[19:25:10] *** Csstform is now known as Csstform|Away
L1552[19:26:54] <ping> lolwat
L1553[19:26:56] <ping> asie
L1554[19:26:59] <ping> what the fuck
L1555[19:27:04] <Ender> he timed out
L1556[19:27:04] <ping> .drama
L1557[19:27:05] <^v> ping, 402 Payment Required
L1558[19:28:00] <Wobbo> could someone send ping the link to the generator online?
L1559[19:28:12] <ping> http://asie.pl/drama.php
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L1561[19:28:54] <Wobbo> ping: that has all the information you need
L1562[19:29:08] <ping> i know :P
L1563[19:29:23] <ping> the payment required is an easter egg though
L1564[19:29:27] <Vexatos> Yea
L1565[19:29:35] <Vexatos> 402 is the best HTTP error
L1566[19:29:45] <Ender> 418 is best
L1567[19:29:52] <Vexatos> "Payment required" That's seriously more important than 404? >__>
L1568[19:29:53] <CompanionCube> I want the drama back
L1569[19:30:05] <Vexatos> You can
L1570[19:30:17] <Vexatos> Click on "Nope, no more tries. It's over."
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L1572[19:39:00] <Ender> http://thebest404pageever.com/swf/deal_with_it.swf
L1573[19:39:43] <Wobbo> Wonderful!
L1574[19:41:05] <Ender> http://thebest404pageever.com/swf/screenclean.swf
L1575[19:42:03] <Wobbo> It doesn't really clean…
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L1577[19:48:49] zsh sets mode: +v on asie
L1578[19:49:47] <skyem123> \o/
L1579[19:50:01] <Wobbo> /o\
L1580[19:50:30] <skyem123> \o/
L1581[19:50:37] <Wobbo> /o\
L1582[19:50:52] <skyem123> \o/
L1583[19:50:58] <Wobbo> /o\
L1584[19:51:13] <skyem123> \o/
L1585[19:51:19] <Wobbo> /o\
L1586[19:51:23] <skyem123> \o/
L1587[19:51:33] <Wobbo> |o|
L1588[19:51:43] <skyem123> |o|
L1589[19:51:54] <Wobbo> \o/
L1590[19:52:03] <skyem123> /o\
L1591[19:52:16] <Wobbo> -o-
L1592[19:52:23] <skyem123> -o
L1593[19:52:29] *** darknife25|AFK is now known as darknife25
L1594[19:52:49] <Wobbo> That doesn't seem to be natural skyem123
L1595[19:53:00] <skyem123> -o|
L1596[19:53:21] <CompanionCube> Vexatos, could be worse
L1597[19:53:24] <CompanionCube> could be 451.
L1598[19:56:24] <Wobbo> CompanionCube: would also be fitting
L1599[19:56:35] <skyem123> o
L1600[19:56:46] <skyem123> \o\
L1601[19:57:39] <Vexatos> What's 451?
L1602[19:57:54] <skyem123> /o/
L1603[19:57:56] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Unavailable for legal reasons
L1604[19:58:54] <skyem123> ._.
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L1606[20:00:34] <Ender> hmm
L1607[20:00:58] <Ender> this is madness!
L1608[20:00:58] *** EnderBot2 is now known as Leonidas
L1609[20:00:58] <Leonidas> Madness....?
L1610[20:00:59] <Leonidas> THIS.
L1611[20:00:59] <Leonidas> IS.
L1612[20:01:00] <Leonidas> SPARTA!!
L1613[20:01:01] *** Leonidas is now known as Leonidas_
L1614[20:01:16] <Ender> there, so i can group it to it's actual account
L1615[20:01:54] <Ender> !flags $a:EnderBot bot
L1616[20:01:59] <Ender> wut
L1617[20:02:14] <skyem123> ?
L1618[20:02:18] <Ender> wait, wrong chan
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L1620[20:03:04] * vifino gives 1 million asshole points to ping and gamax92
L1621[20:03:18] <skyem123> ._.
L1622[20:03:50] <Ender> vifino, go complain in another channel
L1623[20:04:09] <vifino> Ender: well, i cant
L1624[20:04:58] <Ender> vifino, i dont care, dont do it in here is all i'm asking
L1625[20:05:24] <ping> +!
L1626[20:05:25] <vifino> >_>
L1627[20:05:28] <ping> +1 vifino
L1628[20:05:34] <vifino> ping: np
L1629[20:05:49] <ping> vifino, you are unbanned
L1630[20:05:55] <ping> but i am still working on channel perms
L1631[20:05:56] <vifino> If you decide not to let me in #ocbots, i decided to get rid of you too.
L1632[20:05:58] <Ender> ping, theres quite a few there
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L1634[20:14:28] <ping> vifino, you underestimate my level of not caring, the reason you werent unbanned quicker was because i was clearing everyone's perms
L1635[20:14:56] <vifino> ping: and?
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L1637[20:15:16] <vifino> [18:49:43] <ping> !flags vifino +b
L1638[20:15:20] <vifino> Apart from that maybe.
L1639[20:15:51] <ping> oh
L1640[20:16:02] <ping> that was for -f ing gamax
L1641[20:16:15] <vifino> totally
L1642[20:16:34] <Ender> Gentlemen, if i may ask that you continue this conversation in either a PM or in #ocbots itself please
L1643[20:16:44] *** ping is now known as v^|robotics
L1644[20:16:58] <vifino> Ender: I wont join #ocbots, noone wants me there
L1645[20:17:18] <vifino> And unless thats the case, i have no reason to do so.
L1646[20:20:35] <ds84182> I literally do not have the capacity to fix everything right now
L1647[20:21:15] <ds84182> I'll fix this in a few hours
L1648[20:21:19] <vifino> ds84182: Hello.
L1649[20:22:08] <ds84182> Hi
L1650[20:22:33] <vifino> Me neither, today someone told me the suicide of my girlfriend was a good things and I got banned from #ocbots, again
L1651[20:22:50] <vifino> Ahh, what a day.
L1652[20:25:30] <vifino> days like this make me always end up drunk
L1653[20:28:21] <skyem123> ._.
L1654[20:28:39] <asie> What a day.
L1655[20:28:44] <asie> cpw quit, mDiyo quit, pixlepix quit, I quit...
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L1657[20:29:17] * skyem123 pets asie
L1658[20:29:31] <Wobbo> Your tea is finally at drinking temperature? :P
L1659[20:29:41] <CompanionCube> so is minecraft pretty damm fucked?
L1660[20:29:41] <skyem123> ?
L1661[20:29:41] <vifino> asie: Yes.
L1662[20:29:48] <vifino> CompanionCube: exactly
L1663[20:29:49] <CompanionCube> asie, also sources?
L1664[20:29:55] <CompanionCube> actually
L1665[20:29:56] <vifino> Its the day minecraft died.
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L1667[20:30:12] <CompanionCube> Minecraft is microsoft_fuckedness * quitters_fuckedness
L1668[20:30:21] <Ender> i dont know why people are leaving, tbh. at least wait untill microsoft actually do something with mc before throwing your toys out of the cot and calling it quits
L1669[20:30:51] <CompanionCube> can we carry on without cpw? or were they so important to forge that we cannot
L1670[20:31:20] <Ender> CompanionCube, CPW is the creator of FML, it will continue but i dont see it lasting
L1671[20:31:24] <asie> CompanionCube: Twitter
L1672[20:31:51] <CompanionCube> Ender, and without FML, there are practically no mods and no Sponge if it ever happens
L1673[20:31:59] <skyem123> PANIC!
L1674[20:32:08] <Ender> LexManos now has Forge and FML so they will survive for a bit till LM gets tired of it
L1675[20:32:18] <skyem123> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
L1676[20:32:37] <asie> no
L1677[20:32:39] <asie> nobody understands FML
L1678[20:32:42] <asie> that's th eproblem
L1679[20:32:56] <asie> FML is pure wizardry
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L1681[20:33:55] <vifino> asie: Minetest needs better mod support
L1682[20:34:01] <vifino> maybe not-so-lua-y
L1683[20:34:09] <vifino> ruby!
L1684[20:34:10] <vifino> :D
L1685[20:34:10] <asie> vifino: that's why i'm branching off into my own game
L1686[20:34:17] <asie> no ruby, not portable enough
L1687[20:34:18] <asie> if you want ruby
L1688[20:34:20] <asie> use MoonScript
L1689[20:34:20] <vifino> asie: :o
L1690[20:34:22] <asie> it's Ruby syntax for Lua
L1691[20:34:24] <vifino> NO
L1692[20:34:24] <vifino> D:
L1693[20:34:30] <vifino> NOT THIS AGAIN!
L1694[20:34:48] <asie> i'm coding it in C for a reason
L1695[20:34:50] <asie> notEvenC++
L1696[20:35:12] <skyem123> The (Minecraft) world may be blown up by the "constructor fleet" of the vogons, er... Microsoft!
L1697[20:35:18] <Wobbo> asie: ANSI C? Good luck with that :D
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L1699[20:35:22] <asie> Wobbo: Yeah.
L1700[20:35:25] <asie> Well...
L1701[20:35:26] <vifino> not like you couldnt embedd ruby...
L1702[20:35:26] <asie> maybe C99.
L1703[20:35:45] <asie> The API will also be C...
L1704[20:35:49] <asie> meaning that you can make hooks to any language you want
L1705[20:36:04] <Wobbo> asie: Why don't you pick a language that has FuncProg support?
L1706[20:36:08] <skyem123> assembly?
L1707[20:36:10] <vifino> asie: That means recompiling every 5 mins
L1708[20:36:11] <asie> Wobbo: It has to be as portable and secure as Lua 5.2.
L1709[20:36:15] <asie> vifino: Dynamic. Libraries.
L1710[20:36:31] <asie> That also means you can just write a RubyBridge mod
L1711[20:36:37] <asie> I even plan to make a BridgeCore mod
L1712[20:36:44] <asie> so you can easily write reloadable mods in dynamic languages
L1713[20:36:47] <asie> and then type /reload to reload them all
L1714[20:36:59] <vifino> >_>
L1715[20:37:02] <asie> what?
L1716[20:37:06] <Wobbo> I'm going
L1717[20:37:11] <Wobbo> Bye!
L1718[20:37:12] <vifino> Wobbo: You are.
L1719[20:37:24] <vifino> Bye :3
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L1722[20:37:50] Ender sets mode: +v on EnderBot2
L1723[20:39:54] * skyem123 puts a kettle on.
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L1726[20:41:08] zsh sets mode: +v on Wobbo
L1727[20:41:10] <Wobbo> And I'm back :P
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L1729[20:47:50] *** SKSAsleep is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L1730[20:47:56] <Ender> o/ ShadowKatStudios
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L1732[20:48:03] <Wobbo> Good morning ShadowKatStudios
L1733[20:49:35] <skyem123> Who wants tea?
L1734[20:52:54] <Wobbo> The… TEAMAN!
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L1736[20:54:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Good morning.
L1737[20:54:53] <skyem123> Wobbo, ?
L1738[20:55:10] <Wobbo> The teaman probably wants tea. To fuel his jetpack
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L1741[20:55:15] <skyem123> ?
L1742[20:57:02] * skyem123 gives Wobbo tea
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L1744[20:57:29] * skyem123 gives ShadowKatStudios
L1745[20:57:33] <skyem123> tea
L1746[20:57:42] * skyem123 gives Ender tea
L1747[20:57:50] * Ender drinks tea
L1748[20:58:45] <skyem123> 6TB hard disks...
L1749[20:58:56] <skyem123> I can remember when 3TB was new...
L1750[20:59:14] * Wobbo also drinks the tea
L1751[21:00:00] <ShadowKatStudios> tea? I can't say I'm a fan, but it would be impolite to not drink it...
L1752[21:00:36] <skyem123> I can give you coffee or hot chocolate
L1753[21:01:02] <ShadowKatStudios> It's morning, so it'd probably be a good idea to have some coffee.
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L1755[21:01:44] * skyem123 gives ShadowKatStudios coffee
L1756[21:02:04] <skyem123> I need to go now.
L1757[21:02:06] * ShadowKatStudios skulls it
L1758[21:02:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Seeya o/
L1759[21:02:13] <skyem123> skulls?
L1760[21:02:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Drinks the whole beverage without stopping
L1761[21:02:41] <skyem123> Make others aware of the tea/coffee/hot-chocolate supply
L1762[21:03:13] <skyem123> Night!
L1763[21:03:16] <skyem123> o/
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L1772[21:44:13] <Wobbo> I'm going. For real this time :P
L1773[21:44:16] <Wobbo> Bye!
L1774[21:45:03] <TabletCube> Nuu
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