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L1[00:00:24] <Kilobyte> TabletCube: invoke is basicly used for any file descriptor access
L2[00:01:08] <Kilobyte> for example does it provide a components methods
L3[00:01:51] <TabletCube> Nice socket API
L4[00:02:06] <Kilobyte> thanks :D
L5[00:02:46] <Kilobyte> i will also have to specify a tcp like protocol so all the OSes can talk to each other
L6[00:03:14] <Kilobyte> haven't added UDP style stuff to the draft yet
L7[00:03:58] <TabletCube> Cxom
L8[00:04:57] <TabletCube> Compared to the thing I wrote, yours sounds much more formal
L9[00:06:01] <SpiritedDusty> wouldn't that standard make every OS almost identical?
L10[00:06:52] <Kilobyte> SpiritedDusty: i yet have to add more differences
L11[00:07:00] <Kilobyte> or rather more room for freedom
L12[00:07:09] <Kilobyte> but the main api should be regulated
L13[00:07:31] <Kilobyte> but, look at it, BSD, OSX and linux are very much different
L14[00:07:40] <Kilobyte> yet their inner api is pretty much same
L15[00:07:52] <SpiritedDusty> mm you're right
L16[00:08:23] <TabletCube> They all adhere to POSIX
L17[00:08:34] <Kilobyte> but if they wouldn't share for example a network protocol, 97% of all computer users couldn't into internet
L18[00:08:42] <SpiritedDusty> under "The Environment" header it says "If the OS supports multithreading ..." but under "Processes" header it says "Operating systems following that standard MUST support multiple processes"
L19[00:08:57] <Kilobyte> threading != processes
L20[00:09:06] <SpiritedDusty> oh
L21[00:09:07] <Kilobyte> threading == multiple coroutines in one process
L22[00:10:49] <Kilobyte> SpiritedDusty: other things, i leave it up to how to internally handle syscalls
L23[00:10:57] <Kilobyte> always yielding is easier
L24[00:11:13] <Kilobyte> only yielding when needed might be a little faster
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L26[00:11:52] <Kilobyte> or how system options are stored
L27[00:12:37] <Kilobyte> or how the actual boot works, how daemons are started. does it go with a runlevel approach, or rather systemd style
L28[00:12:48] <Kilobyte> all those things are completely up the the OS author
L29[00:13:02] <gjgfuj> I like that.
L30[00:13:09] <SpiritedDusty> this is making me want to write an OS using your OpenPosix standard
L31[00:13:24] <Kilobyte> its currently version 0.1 :P
L32[00:13:26] <TabletCube> Maybe there could be an FHS standard too?
L33[00:13:37] <Kilobyte> FHS?
L34[00:13:49] <TabletCube> Google it.
L35[00:13:59] <SpiritedDusty> File Hierarchy Standard
L36[00:14:05] <Kilobyte> oh
L37[00:14:14] <gjgfuj> Yeah, that's probably useful.
L38[00:14:20] <Kilobyte> there will be one, but less strict
L39[00:14:37] <Kilobyte> like, it will enforce existance of /dev and maybe /sys
L40[00:14:50] <Kilobyte> /sys would be a cross-platform compatible one
L41[00:14:59] <gjgfuj> Whatever openposix is, OpenOS should be written to support it.
L42[00:15:08] <TabletCube> I would enforce existence of types of dirs
L43[00:15:23] <TabletCube> and mandate compat symlinks
L44[00:15:36] <Kilobyte> so, i can rely on that /sys/modem/1/device would always be a symlink to the device file of the first modem
L45[00:15:47] <Kilobyte> but, i cannot rely on what the device file is named
L46[00:15:56] <SpiritedDusty> how would device files work?
L47[00:16:02] <Kilobyte> it could be /dev/modem0 or /dev/md0
L48[00:16:06] <Sangar> back
L49[00:16:17] <SpiritedDusty> wb Sangar
L50[00:16:21] <Sangar> ohai
L51[00:16:26] <Kilobyte> SpiritedDusty: you open them. then you can use the invoke syscall to do stuff
L52[00:16:33] <Kilobyte> or you can directly write to them
L53[00:16:48] <Kilobyte> for example writing to a printer device would print the written data
L54[00:16:49] <Sangar> Kilobyte, will look at the pr in a moment (i noticed the lua version in the headers was outdated, will update that too)
L55[00:16:54] <TabletCube> so an os can store .cfgs in /config but /etc has to be symlinked
L56[00:17:04] <Kilobyte> yep
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L58[00:17:18] <SpiritedDusty> Kilobyte, so the OS would have to keep track of the file when it gets modified, right?
L59[00:17:43] <Kilobyte> all file metadata is optional
L60[00:18:02] <Kilobyte> but, the OS api must support them (and possibly return dummies)
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L62[00:18:23] <Kilobyte> metadata like mtime, atime, ctime, owner, group, permission mask, sticky/suid bit
L63[00:18:25] <Kilobyte> etc
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L65[00:18:53] <Kilobyte> defaults would be: 0, 0, 0, root, root, 777, off/off
L66[00:19:20] <Kilobyte> even an OS without user handling needs to have a dummy user (id 0, name root)
L67[00:19:34] <Kilobyte> for compatibility reasons
L68[00:20:00] <Kilobyte> however in that case its also assumed that the OS has no permission handlin
L69[00:20:17] <Kilobyte> Sangar: for now the AUR package clones my fork
L70[00:20:40] <Kilobyte> Sangar: also, please add tags for your releases, it makes the AUR package more consistant
L71[00:20:58] <Sangar> Kilobyte, ok, that's fine, too. and yeah, did plan to tag as soon as i fixed the lua version in the comments.
L72[00:21:37] <Kilobyte> so, if i have a PKGBUILD thats supposed to install 5.2.0 it actually does install that version and not latest from master branch
L73[00:22:06] <Kilobyte> SpiritedDusty: does that answer your question?
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L76[00:22:51] <Kilobyte> also, OpenOS will prob not get a full support, but i might incorporate the network apis, so OpenOS supports OpenIP (or w/e i'll call it)
L77[00:23:27] <Kilobyte> aka OpenOS can communicate with most OSes implementing OpenPosix
L78[00:25:38] <gamax92> Sangar: I managed to make my image thingy about 1-2 minutes per image, from the 8 minutes it used to be for just the first step.
L79[00:25:49] <Kilobyte> not bad
L80[00:26:03] <Sangar> Kilobyte, wondering if i should add the version somewhere in the sources, as a define or something
L81[00:26:11] <gamax92> was one simple change, involves 3 letters
L82[00:26:19] <Kilobyte> Sangar: maybe :P
L83[00:26:23] <Sangar> gamax92, those are the best changes :D
L84[00:26:40] <gamax92> Sangar: it starts with a j, ends with a t, and the middle is a vowel
L85[00:26:59] <Sangar> Kilobyte, guess i'll just copy lua's variant :P
L86[00:27:12] <Sangar> gamax92, oooh, hard one... hmmm... 'e'? :P
L87[00:27:19] <gamax92> Yep, luajet
L88[00:27:26] <TabletCube> J i t?
L89[00:27:36] <SpiritedDusty> Kilobyte, sorry I was eating. yes it answers my question
L90[00:27:41] <SpiritedDusty> thanks
L91[00:27:42] <Kilobyte> np
L92[00:27:59] <Kilobyte> i might add compatibility to OpenOS to a certain point
L93[00:28:02] <gamax92> i wasn't using luajit, mainly because i normally cant (modules be segfaulting it) but ... no such modules in play
L94[00:28:08] <Kilobyte> i might make processes optional
L95[00:28:16] <Kilobyte> so OpenOS could fully comply
L96[00:28:24] <SpiritedDusty> doesn't OpenOS have processes?
L97[00:28:32] <Kilobyte> not really afaik
L98[00:28:58] <Kilobyte> not in a matter that you can have 2 or more programs running at same time with the OS distributing time slices between them
L99[00:29:16] <Kilobyte> sadly we prob won't get autoyield too soon
L100[00:29:30] <Kilobyte> would make things much nicer
L101[00:29:41] <gamax92> oh goodie
L102[00:29:52] <Kilobyte> because then the program author wouldn't have to worry about manually yielding
L103[00:30:04] <gamax92> the guys at imagemagick told me to take the two most used colors and dither to that.
L104[00:30:26] <SpiritedDusty> wouldn't auto yielding need the debug sethook?
L105[00:30:54] <gamax92> Sangar: some great results huh? http://i.imgur.com/3Sr18vI.png using two most used colors.
L106[00:31:39] <Kilobyte> SpiritedDusty: it would be implemented in kernel.lua
L107[00:31:41] <TabletCube> No autoyield?
L108[00:31:56] <Kilobyte> but currently a yielded debug hook cannot be persisted
L109[00:31:57] <Sangar> gamax92, subjectively that looks worse than the earlier ones >_>
L110[00:32:01] <gamax92> Sangar: exactly
L111[00:32:27] <Kilobyte> so, we cannot yield inside a debug hook or stuff can break
L112[00:32:39] <gamax92> can or will
L113[00:32:43] <v^> .addfail http://i.imgur.com/axZp49S.png
L114[00:32:43] <^v> v^, Fail added
L115[00:32:56] <Kilobyte> s/can/will
L116[00:32:57] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> will or will
L117[00:33:15] <gamax92> v^: XD
L118[00:33:23] <TabletCube> .fail
L119[00:33:24] <^v> TabletCube, http://i.imgur.com/PNuZx5v.png
L120[00:33:40] <v^> oh yeah
L121[00:33:43] <TabletCube> Kill it
L122[00:33:47] <v^> leme clean up the formatting for the fails
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L126[00:44:35] <PsychokenesisKat> So while I have internet, I'm bulk-downloading 1406 strips of a webcomic
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L128[00:46:16] <gamax92> so most two colors is lack of detail, and least two is ... garbage
L129[00:46:50] <TabletCube> PsychokenesisKat: e
L130[00:47:09] <PsychokenesisKat> e?
L131[00:47:11] <TabletCube> PsychokenesisKat: which webcomic
L132[00:47:18] <PsychokenesisKat> MegaTokyo
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L134[00:47:46] <PsychokenesisKat> I've never read it before. Thought I could use more stuff to read when I get back home
L135[00:49:02] <PsychokenesisKat> Also I'm torrenting Serial Experiments Lain and Dennou Coil
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L137[00:54:19] <SpiritedDusty> how do I refresh an OC drive after changing the contents of it outside of game?
L138[00:54:36] <gjgfuj> Restart game?
L139[00:54:55] <SpiritedDusty> well without restarting the game
L140[00:54:57] <gjgfuj> I have no idea how often that's been asked over the last few days.
L141[00:55:04] <gjgfuj> I don't think you can
L142[00:55:08] <gjgfuj> :(
L143[00:55:11] <SpiritedDusty> :/
L144[00:56:29] <ds84182> SpiritedDusty: set the config value named bufferChanges to false
L145[00:56:36] <ds84182> Then after that restart the game
L146[00:56:43] <ds84182> then you don't have to restart ever again
L147[00:56:54] <SpiritedDusty> oh. thanks :D
L148[00:58:04] <Kilobyte> SpiritedDusty: or just replug the drive
L149[00:58:09] <gjgfuj> Yeah.
L150[00:58:16] <Kilobyte> taking it out and putting it back in forces a sync
L151[00:58:17] <SpiritedDusty> replugging the drive doesn't seem to work
L152[00:58:31] <Kilobyte> works for me
L153[00:58:37] <Kilobyte> and its supposed to work
L154[00:58:53] <SpiritedDusty> oh herpderp. I was editing the file in the wrong drive
L155[00:59:15] <gjgfuj> ah.
L156[01:00:21] <Kilobyte> time to switch to phone/bed
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L162[01:26:09] <SpiritedDusty> Kilobyte, in the OpenPosix standard, what's the point of having _T memory? can't a thread just create a local variable?
L163[01:30:23] <TabletCube> If only OC could interface with turtles.....imagine the stuffs
L164[01:32:52] <v^> turtles
L165[01:32:56] <v^> .w turtles
L166[01:32:57] <^v> v^, Not found. did you want "turtle api"?
L167[01:32:59] <v^> .w turtle
L168[01:32:59] <^v> v^, http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot
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L178[02:46:30] <Kodos> Anyone play SpaceChem yet
L179[02:46:38] <v^> yes
L180[02:46:49] <v^> i was like, one of the first to play it >_>
L181[02:52:15] <Kodos> Is it any good? got it for free
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L186[02:55:04] <ping> Kodos, fuck yeah
L187[03:06:08] <Kasran> I love SpaceChem :D
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L190[03:16:35] <ping> actually
L191[03:16:37] <ping> ima spacechem now
L192[03:16:38] <ping> :D
L193[03:18:10] <TabletCube> Yay
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L195[03:18:18] <TabletCube> Got mah key
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L209[04:18:28] <ping> http://youtu.be/w1K7qw1jUZk
L210[04:18:28] -Kibibyte- [ping] Playing spacechem again... | by thegyroid | 7s | 38s ago | 1 views | Rated: -1.00/5.00
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L218[05:20:18] <ping> .addfail http://puu.sh/aB9ZU/89ad1be933.png
L219[05:20:18] <^v> ping, Fail added
L220[05:22:40] <Bizzycola> oic
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L223[05:30:43] <gjgfuj> Anyone here wanna test my map later?
L224[05:31:16] <gjgfuj> I shall release a build in #soulbound if you want that.
L225[05:33:13] <PotatoTrumpet> test test 421
L226[05:33:13] <ping> ._.
L227[05:33:17] <ping> what map
L228[05:33:22] <PotatoTrumpet> :D Ping!
L229[05:33:26] <gjgfuj> SoulBound.
L230[05:33:53] <gjgfuj> It's a 1.7.10 survival/quest map.
L231[05:34:09] <dmod_> how u do redstone with a robot?
L232[05:34:21] <gjgfuj> dmod_, Use a redstone card.
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L234[05:34:28] <PotatoTrumpet> Well, my first words when I came out of anesthesia was "I feel like a fish"
L235[05:34:38] <gjgfuj> I feel like a fish........
L236[05:34:46] <dmod_> no shit. how do you output redstone signal
L237[05:34:47] <gjgfuj> Nice first words mate.
L238[05:34:53] <PotatoTrumpet> My tounge and bottom lip was numb
L239[05:35:01] <gjgfuj> .w component:redstone
L240[05:35:01] <^v> gjgfuj, http://ocd.cil.li/component:redstone
L241[05:35:10] <PotatoTrumpet> ^
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L243[05:35:32] <gjgfuj> dmod_, ^
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L245[05:38:12] <gjgfuj> About my map: It's nowhere near done, but it's a quest through your own soul. (1.7.10 mods). And your goal is to journey all the way through life.
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L249[06:00:16] <PotatoTrumpet> Ermergrd
L250[06:00:26] <PotatoTrumpet> Factorio looks so cool
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L252[06:07:26] <Mzxs> hello
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L255[06:21:30] <Mzxs> how do you make the computer wait like CC's sleep(1)
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L257[06:26:55] <Vexatos> Mzxs: os.sleep(1)
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L260[06:45:03] <istasi> Morning \o
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L262[06:54:16] <asie> Sangar: Thanks to your reply I just realized there's another way to DDoS ComputerCraft servers with.
L263[06:54:29] <asie> Seriously, most 1.6.x packs have a literal security hole in them
L264[06:56:39] <gjgfuj> Hmm?
L265[06:56:43] <gjgfuj> What hole is this?
L266[06:57:24] <asie> gjgfuj: Take an 8x8 monitor
L267[06:57:27] <asie> set the text scale to 0.5
L268[06:57:31] <asie> then change the content entirely every tick
L269[06:57:38] <asie> also, make sure the content is random enough to be hard to compress
L270[06:58:23] <istasi> so cc servers are minecraft servers with computercraft on?
L271[06:58:26] <asie> yes
L272[06:58:33] <Kilobyte> morning
L273[06:58:36] <asie> there are very many ways to crash CC servers
L274[06:58:41] <istasi> morning kilo :)
L275[06:58:48] <asie> 1. if it's running MCPC+, load a peripheral cable on a chunk boundary and ensure the other chunk of the cable is left UNloaded
L276[06:58:51] <asie> it will crash after about 60 seconds
L277[06:59:02] <asie> 2. if the HTTP API is on, download a Ubuntu DVD.
L278[06:59:17] <asie> 3. Use Lua code to spam arrays within arrays within arrays and watch it go out of memory.
L279[06:59:34] <Vexatos> CC is so unsafe
L280[06:59:40] <Kilobyte> oh right, no ram limit
L281[06:59:41] <Vexatos> That Ubuntu DVD, especially
L282[06:59:49] <asie> 4. An 8x6 monitor in CC is about 112x60. Combined with ideally 1 byte per color, that's 13.4KB. You can change the data entirely once a tick
L283[07:00:03] <Vexatos> So 13.4 KB/t
L284[07:00:06] <Vexatos> Uhm
L285[07:00:06] <asie> Spam the monitor with hard to compress data to generate bandwidth sent of about 265KB per monitor per CLIENT
L286[07:00:07] <Vexatos> Well
L287[07:00:07] <gjgfuj> Wow.
L288[07:00:12] <Kilobyte> gotta try that
L289[07:00:13] <asie> Next, just put ten people in that place
L290[07:00:19] <asie> you get 2.65MB/second of outgoing transfer
L291[07:00:29] <Vexatos> asie: Use some perlin noise generator for the screen pixel setting
L292[07:00:32] <asie> which is 3.8GB/day
L293[07:00:33] <Kilobyte> that's not THAT much
L294[07:00:39] <asie> Kilobyte: You can connect infinity monitors.
L295[07:00:46] <Kilobyte> two
L296[07:00:51] <asie> And infinity people near the monitor.
L297[07:00:54] <Kilobyte> *yes
L298[07:01:07] <asie> This scales infinitely
L299[07:01:08] <Kilobyte> or bigger make a bigger one
L300[07:01:13] <asie> Not bigger than 8x6
L301[07:01:14] <asie> that's the limit
L302[07:01:20] <Kilobyte> and they are cheap
L303[07:01:24] <Kilobyte> ah kk
L304[07:01:30] <asie> but you can make as many as you want
L305[07:01:50] <asie> with 10 monitors and 20 people next to that area
L306[07:01:52] <asie> you get 76.3GB a day
L307[07:01:54] <Kilobyte> I like the chunk boundary one
L308[07:02:00] <asie> or 53 megabytes a *second*
L309[07:02:10] <asie> At this point, most server's 100mbit uplink should have crashed
L310[07:02:11] <asie> and burned
L311[07:02:41] <Kilobyte> most servers have a shared 1 g uplink (unless dedi)
L312[07:02:47] <asie> Yeah... shared
L313[07:02:51] <asie> have fun with that ^_^
L314[07:03:04] <Kilobyte> lemme test something
L315[07:03:34] <istasi> wouldn't connections just timeout instead?, and thus generate less packets ?
L316[07:03:50] <asie> istasi: I have 80mbit download, I fear nothing
L317[07:03:55] <asie> also the CPU would probably burn long before that
L318[07:03:57] <asie> as Minecraft GZIPs all packets
L319[07:04:21] <istasi> asie, i got double yours, both ways :P
L320[07:04:32] <istasi> but
L321[07:04:39] <istasi> say server got 10mbit
L322[07:04:42] <istasi> and you do this
L323[07:04:51] <asie> well
L324[07:04:55] <istasi> then obviously server wont be able to serve all clients
L325[07:04:56] <asie> you can kick players off a server
L326[07:04:59] <asie> that way
L327[07:05:04] <istasi> so some of them will timeout, will they not?
L328[07:06:09] <Kilobyte> a friend has a VPS with shared 1 g link
L329[07:06:15] <asie> istasi: They will
L330[07:06:16] <Kilobyte> it gets 34 mbit
L331[07:06:20] <asie> but if they spawn in the same place
L332[07:06:23] <asie> won't they timeout again?
L333[07:06:28] <Kilobyte> downstream that is
L334[07:06:30] <asie> as long as the chunks are kept loaded with a chunkloader
L335[07:06:35] <asie> the computer will never power off
L336[07:06:55] <istasi> yeah, but the server would have 1 less client to send data to
L337[07:07:03] <istasi> then repeat until server is able to serve all clients
L338[07:07:13] <istasi> the line would be max'd no doubt
L339[07:07:15] <Kilobyte> but, speedtest falsely detects it as being in US. it's actually in UK
L340[07:07:23] <istasi> but crash?, dont think due to net activity atleast
L341[07:07:37] <Kilobyte> So the result is a bit off
L342[07:07:39] <asie> istasi: it won't crash
L343[07:07:43] <asie> it will just (a) lag the CPU heavily due to compression
L344[07:07:45] <asie> (b) kick off players
L345[07:07:50] <asie> (c) kick off players again when they come back
L346[07:08:17] <istasi> yeah, would be annoying xD
L347[07:08:21] <Kilobyte> asie: im sure one also can easily crash it using malformed paket
L348[07:08:36] <asie> Kilobyte: It should be a bit harder with Netty at least
L349[07:09:43] <Kilobyte> like, for tileentity update packet, specify wrong coordinates
L350[07:09:49] <Kilobyte> gotta check source
L351[07:09:59] <asie> oh yeah
L352[07:10:03] <asie> that would crash almost every mod in existence
L353[07:10:11] <Kilobyte> probably
L354[07:10:12] <asie> though I think Netty *might* be catching exceptions
L355[07:10:14] <asie> ...
L356[07:10:16] <asie> fuck, I need to fix AsieLib
L357[07:12:00] <asie> fixed
L358[07:13:02] <asie> now all malformed packets should be catched
L359[07:17:40] <gjgfuj> I like the cleverbot bot in #FTB.
L360[07:17:42] <gjgfuj> It's amazing.
L361[07:28:30] <Bizzycola> oic
L362[07:30:12] <asie> oh hey
L363[07:30:16] <asie> the HTTP API bug was fixed
L364[07:30:19] <asie> they added *gasp* a whitelist
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L374[08:39:27] <asie> oh, hi VikeStep
L375[08:39:42] <VikeStep> hi
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L384[09:17:45] <Potato|OpenTTD> :O
L385[09:17:49] <Potato|OpenTTD> I have a idea
L386[09:20:18] <Potato|OpenTTD> In order to make any sort of electrical component(CPU,ALU,Cards,Etc..), You should have to make it in a clean room(5x5 area surrounded by clean room blocks and a clean room door), assemble all the eletrical notes and sauder it in there!
L387[09:20:54] <Potato|OpenTTD> And it if you mess up, it may short out the whole computer
L388[09:21:01] <Potato|OpenTTD> when you power the computer
L389[09:21:40] <Potato|OpenTTD> and for higher tier 2 and 3 of computer cases, the power converter is already built in
L390[09:27:56] <asie> Potato|OpenTTD: Oh god no
L391[09:28:09] <Potato|OpenTTD> Oh god yes
L392[09:28:54] <Potato|OpenTTD> And make hard drives in OC work like real ones
L393[09:29:05] <Potato|OpenTTD> Sectors, everything
L394[09:29:09] <istasi> wonder if you could do openttd'ish in minecraft?, special places where if setup minecart routes to/from you'd be able to generate minerals etc and whatnot
L395[09:29:21] <Potato|OpenTTD> :O
L396[09:29:53] <Potato|OpenTTD> Railcraft+OC+TrainCraft+StevesCarts+IC2+Buildcraft+TE+Factorization
L397[09:30:02] <Potato|OpenTTD> And a pre-made map
L398[09:30:21] <Potato|OpenTTD> and once 1.8 comes out, use that announcement thing
L399[09:30:32] <Potato|OpenTTD> "2000 die in train crash"
L400[09:30:50] <Potato|OpenTTD> Dear god my mouth is sore
L401[09:31:04] <istasi> since ttd is more about processing, would need some places that just generate shit, could be those thingies from exnihilo thingy that mod from agrerian skies or however thats spelled
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L403[09:31:28] <Potato|OpenTTD> I want factorio
L404[09:31:41] <Potato|OpenTTD> its like FTB/Tekkit, but better
L405[09:31:49] <Potato|OpenTTD> and its not minecraft
L406[09:31:53] <istasi> mmh, never heard of it :O
L407[09:32:04] <Potato|OpenTTD> it's its own game
L408[09:32:18] <istasi> oh
L409[09:32:36] <Potato|OpenTTD> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=locdqx41PaI istasi
L410[09:32:36] -Kibibyte- [Potato|OpenTTD] Nerd³ FW - Factorio | by officialnerdcubed | 44m20s | 1d13h ago | 212,70 views | Rated: 4.92/5.00
L411[09:33:58] <Potato|OpenTTD> .tell Kilobyte Kibibyte's youtube thing (where it says stuff like what it is, views, etc) failed to display 212,105 (it said 212,70 )
L412[09:33:58] <^v> Potato|OpenTTD, Message queued.
L413[09:34:06] <Kilobyte> factorio is cool, played it myself
L414[09:34:11] <Potato|OpenTTD> :O
L415[09:34:13] <Potato|OpenTTD> Your on!
L416[09:34:13] <Kilobyte> known bug
L417[09:34:21] <Potato|OpenTTD> then fix it
L418[09:34:22] <Kilobyte> I literally just arrived
L419[09:34:37] <Kilobyte> on my phone atm
L420[09:34:53] <Potato|OpenTTD> Well, my operation on my wisdom teeth went well
L421[09:35:03] <Potato|OpenTTD> Can't play trumpet for 7 days
L422[09:35:08] <Kilobyte> :D
L423[09:35:16] <Kilobyte> that's not too bad
L424[09:35:37] <Kilobyte> can you already eat proper stuff again?
L425[09:35:54] <Potato|OpenTTD> And I have Marching Band Camp from Aug.1 but didn't go for obvious reasons, until school starts (26th)
L426[09:35:56] <Potato|OpenTTD> No
L427[09:36:04] <Potato|OpenTTD> Not until Aug. 3
L428[09:36:09] * Potato|OpenTTD loves applesauce
L429[09:36:26] <Potato|OpenTTD> I got a milkshake from Braums on the way back
L430[09:36:33] <istasi> http://istasi.dk/test.png \o/, gotten 'center' to work
L431[09:36:35] <Potato|OpenTTD> Best. Milkshake. Ever
L432[09:37:04] <Potato|OpenTTD> What is that, istasi
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L434[09:38:06] <istasi> http://pastebin.com/f5QwxFzC execution of this
L435[09:39:04] <PotatoTrumpet> Kilobyte, My first words when I came out of the knock out IV stuff, i said "I feel like a fish", due to my toung and lower lip being numb
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L455[10:44:53] <JoshTheEnder> o/
L456[10:45:02] <istasi> hi
L457[10:46:09] <Sangar> o/
L458[10:46:13] <istasi> \o
L459[10:46:36] <asie> Sangar: thanks for giving me #4 on "Ways to exploit ComputerCraft", btw
L460[10:46:53] <Sangar> asie, oh? lemme guess: screen flooding? :P
L461[10:47:38] <JoshTheEnder> morning Sangar
L462[10:47:50] <JoshTheEnder> which surprisingly it still is
L463[10:47:57] <asie> Sangar: yep!
L464[10:48:02] <asie> i calculated it to be up to 265KB/client/monitor
L465[10:48:06] <asie> per second
L466[10:48:20] <asie> anyway
L467[10:48:24] <asie> i had a few ideas to solve the problem
L468[10:48:25] <Sangar> hi JoshTheEnder :)
L469[10:48:30] <asie> first of all, most stuff *will* be heavily compressible
L470[10:48:38] <asie> my 320x100 pic i posted earlier compresses down to 14KB with gzip
L471[10:48:42] <asie> my idea was to impose a bandwidth cap
L472[10:48:54] <Sangar> hmhm
L473[10:49:01] <asie> that is, for instance, up to 512 bytes of data a tick
L474[10:49:03] <asie> but here's the catch
L475[10:49:05] <asie> the data accumulates
L476[10:49:13] <asie> so if you don't send anything for a few seconds
L477[10:49:17] <asie> you can send the new stuf fin one giant packet
L478[10:49:23] <JoshTheEnder> Sangar, have you seen http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/212-my-first-and-second-impressions/ yet?
L479[10:49:41] <asie> Sangar: also, make the cap tweakable
L480[10:49:45] <asie> as i will want to go full power on my servers
L481[10:49:48] <Sangar> JoshTheEnder, had not
L482[10:51:07] <Sangar> asie, yeah, that would be a reasonable way of throttling it i guess. though i'm already starting to worry about cpu use from the compression :D possibly a background worker thread that does it, iirc enqueuing network messages is synchronized so can be done from any thread.
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L484[10:51:50] <JoshTheEnder> \o/
L485[10:51:54] <asie> Sangar: about compression?
L486[10:52:01] <asie> trust me, compression is fast, especially on small chunks of data
L487[10:52:07] <asie> also Computronics sends uncompressed data
L488[10:52:11] <PsychokenesisKat> Megatokyo is possibly the best webcomic with a continuing story :D
L489[10:52:12] <asie> 4KB/client/tape drive/second
L490[10:52:26] <asie> also
L491[10:52:29] <asie> i'm eyeing this -> http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u67794264
L492[10:52:44] <asie> it's very cheap for what i tis
L493[10:52:45] <PsychokenesisKat> Hello JoshTheEnder by the way
L494[10:52:48] <Sangar> asie, i suppose for the text it could be acceptable. i just remembered my attempts at compressing computer states. it slowed down saving *a lot*
L495[10:52:51] <PsychokenesisKat> .jp?
L496[10:52:52] <JoshTheEnder> :)
L497[10:53:00] <asie> PsychokenesisKat: .jp.
L498[10:53:07] <asie> ordering will be ridiculous
L499[10:53:11] <asie> but the PC110 is very rare outside of Japan
L500[10:53:15] <asie> and uncommon inside
L501[10:53:27] <PsychokenesisKat> Huh, nice.
L502[10:53:51] <PsychokenesisKat> But you can speak japanese and/or write japanese to some degree, right?
L503[10:53:59] <asie> Nope! Proxying services are a thing
L504[10:54:07] <asie> as well as custom OS installation
L505[10:54:10] <asie> the PC110 is the holy grail of ThinkPads
L506[10:54:13] <asie> as it is, technically, a ThinkPad
L507[10:54:17] <asie> alongside the 701C
L508[10:54:28] <PsychokenesisKat> I have a ThinkPad 600X
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L510[10:54:55] <PsychokenesisKat> It runs Damn Small Linux and Windows XP
L511[10:58:08] <PsychokenesisKat> >smaller than a video cassette
L512[10:58:10] <PsychokenesisKat> holy shi.
L513[10:58:13] <asie> PsychokenesisKat: 5 inches
L514[10:58:19] <asie> it fits in your hand and weighs literally as much as an iPad
L515[10:58:20] <asie> (not the Air)
L516[10:58:35] <PsychokenesisKat> wow, IBM beat apple again
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L518[10:59:06] <asie> PsychokenesisKat: IBM used to have amazing laptop engineers
L519[10:59:23] <asie> PsychokenesisKat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=478hsrVjVQk
L520[10:59:23] -Kibibyte- [asie] ThinkPad 701C. Nicknamed "Butterfly" | by highwayblogger | 8s | 203w0d ago | 29,189 views | Rated: 4.96/5.00
L521[10:59:31] <asie> This ThinkPad is in the Museum of Modern Arts in New York
L522[10:59:33] <asie> for a reason
L523[10:59:35] <PsychokenesisKat> I can't youtube
L524[10:59:38] <PsychokenesisKat> still 3g
L525[10:59:40] <PsychokenesisKat> :(
L526[10:59:44] <asie> it's 8 seconds long
L527[10:59:45] <asie> it own't hurt
L528[11:00:00] * PsychokenesisKat runs off to find his copy of Youtube-dl
L529[11:00:39] <PsychokenesisKat> When did they lose these amazing laptop engineers?
L530[11:00:54] <asie> PsychokenesisKat: When they sold the ThinkPads off to Lenovo
L531[11:01:05] <PsychokenesisKat> Ah, I see.
L532[11:01:06] <asie> which was a really smart move as that was roughly the point when the ThinkPads' popularity slowly sank
L533[11:01:14] <asie> business-wise, that is
L534[11:01:19] <PsychokenesisKat> Well, I have a piece of history
L535[11:01:20] <asie> but from a user PoV it was a screwup
L536[11:01:28] <PsychokenesisKat> My school uses Lenovo ThinkPads
L537[11:01:33] <asie> and the best part is
L538[11:01:38] <asie> i've never seen a 701C where the keyboard mechanism was dead
L539[11:01:46] <PsychokenesisKat> They're totally solid, but the specs suck
L540[11:01:53] <asie> Nah
L541[11:01:58] <asie> Nowadays the specs are rather good
L542[11:02:04] <asie> but they stopped being solid
L543[11:02:05] <PsychokenesisKat> >atom
L544[11:02:08] <PsychokenesisKat> >1GM RAM
L545[11:02:11] <PsychokenesisKat> GB*
L546[11:02:14] <asie> what
L547[11:02:17] <asie> that's not a thinkpad you idiot
L548[11:02:19] <asie> that's a thinkpad edge
L549[11:02:24] <asie> or some other attempt by Lenovo to cash in on the ThinkPad brand
L550[11:02:37] <PsychokenesisKat> well I don't know about thinkpads in detail
L551[11:02:40] <asie> yeah
L552[11:02:47] <asie> Lenovo did a lot of major screwups
L553[11:03:03] <asie> sorry for being so mad, it just irks me a bit
L554[11:03:04] <PsychokenesisKat> I know I have an IBM ThinkPad that originally ran Windows 98
L555[11:03:16] <asie> well the PC110 originally ran PC-DOS and Windows 3.1
L556[11:03:18] <asie> can run 95 easily
L557[11:03:19] <PsychokenesisKat> I did specify my school uses Lenovo ThinkPads
L558[11:03:34] <PsychokenesisKat> How much RAM?
L559[11:03:44] <asie> PC110? 4 or 8 MB
L560[11:03:50] <asie> can be upgraded to 20 with a stupidly rare special RAM module
L561[11:04:25] <PsychokenesisKat> The ThinkPad I have has 128MB, but 95 runs in 4MB? Wow, now I can see why they say XP eats memory...
L562[11:04:40] <asie> 95 runs in 4MB, although admittedly there's little space left for apps
L563[11:04:44] <asie> in 8MB it runs VERY well
L564[11:05:11] <PsychokenesisKat> I had a Win95 box once, now I wonder what the specs for it are like...
L565[11:05:17] <PsychokenesisKat> It was my first computer...
L566[11:05:40] <PsychokenesisKat> I never even gave it a name
L567[11:05:43] <PsychokenesisKat> :( *waa*
L568[11:06:40] <PsychokenesisKat> >260MB HDD
L569[11:06:49] <PsychokenesisKat> Wow, even less than the CD-ROMs I have
L570[11:07:14] <PsychokenesisKat> Hah, 2400 baud modem
L571[11:07:35] <asie> the PC110 doesn't really have an HDD
L572[11:07:38] <asie> it has a CompactFlash slot
L573[11:07:47] <asie> back when CompactFlashes were only used by the high-end camcorders
L574[11:07:50] <asie> and cameras
L575[11:07:56] <PsychokenesisKat> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/PC110
L576[11:08:07] <PsychokenesisKat> It says the HDD capacity is (260MB)
L577[11:08:24] <PsychokenesisKat> Though it is stated it's PCMCIA
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L589[12:11:44] <PotatoTrumpet> I just got Factorio!
L590[12:13:34] <PotatoTrumpet> Sangar: I have an idea, Tier 2 and 3 Cases have spots for batterys in the case. One for tier 2 and 2 for tier 3. Tier 3 cases also have a power converter build in. What do you think of that idea?
L591[12:14:50] <Sangar> PotatoTrumpet, a) why? that's what capacitors are for. b) cases are already also power converters ;)
L592[12:15:03] <PotatoTrumpet> :O
L593[12:15:38] * PotatoTrumpet is missing something and is tired of apple sauce/pudding/jello
L594[12:19:00] <Negi> *i3 happens*
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L599[13:11:05] <DeanIsaKitty> o/
L600[13:11:19] <istasi> \o
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L612[13:47:07] <skyem123> I figured out why I was being kicked. I forgot to change my user name after logging in as my bot to register it's nickname.
L613[13:47:07] <skyem123> Oops/
L614[13:47:07] <skyem123> :-p
L615[13:47:41] <PotatoTrumpet> :-P
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L619[13:52:50] <skyem123> It's raining...
L620[13:53:34] <istasi> did that here last night, wish it was raining atm :(
L621[13:53:36] <istasi> so warm
L622[13:55:17] <skyem123> I'm in scotland...
L623[13:55:25] <skyem123> on "holiday"..
L624[13:55:39] <istasi> denmark here, suppose we got slightly better weather than you guys then :P
L625[13:55:53] <ph1x3r> and why would you go to Scotland for holiday? :)
L626[13:56:06] <skyem123> I live in london
L627[13:56:22] <skyem123> Also, ice cream factory.
L628[13:56:24] <skyem123> yum
L629[13:56:44] <ph1x3r> Ah. Could try a whicky distilery.
L630[13:56:50] <ph1x3r> whisky
L631[13:57:39] <skyem123> I prefer ice cream.
L632[13:58:52] <robhol> How about an ice cream distillery
L633[14:00:18] <skyem123> ...
L634[14:00:21] <skyem123> wat.
L635[14:01:26] <ph1x3r> has anyone here done work reading mystcraft pages with a robot?
L636[14:01:52] <istasi> is mystcraft out to 1.7.10 yet btw?
L637[14:02:22] <ph1x3r> I have the inventory controller and can pull pages from a chest, but I just get item.myst.page as the name. I need to figure out what the page is about.
L638[14:06:48] <skyem123> I think mystcraft data is stored in NBT.
L639[14:07:05] <ph1x3r> Yes. It isn't a damage value
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L641[14:08:36] <ph1x3r> I can see a maxDamage value with getStackInSlot() but not the NBT stuff
L642[14:09:37] <istasi> should be able to see nbt stuff though AE chest
L643[14:10:27] <Sangar> mystcraft interop (i.e. reading page name at least) is on my todo list
L644[14:10:45] <ph1x3r> I have all the pages in a filing cabinet. Are you saying an AE chest gives me more callbacks to use?
L645[14:11:15] <istasi> mystcraft books save their target dimension as name rather than the id -.-, atleast they did when i wanted to create computer interface to teleport me instead of clicking the stupid books
L646[14:11:26] <ph1x3r> Hi Sangar. OK. Thanks. I *hate* sorting mystcraft pages by hand :(
L647[14:12:20] <ph1x3r> istasi Direwolf20 did a nice CC turtle controlled portal handler.
L648[14:13:10] <istasi> i wanted it more in the sort of 'click screen', whoosh, new dimension, though command block throwing tpx commands
L649[14:14:00] <ph1x3r> OK. Makes sense. Have you seen the warp book mod?
L650[14:14:23] <istasi> yeah
L651[14:16:58] <istasi> sangar, btw did you see the video i made regarding gpu? .. can easily see what adding extra gpu does to "render speed" on multiply monitors
L652[14:17:07] <ph1x3r> hmm. If you are using command blocks, why would you need mystcraft books other than to create the age?
L653[14:17:30] <istasi> because i didn't wanna setup it up
L654[14:17:39] <istasi> just wanted to create the age, throw it in a chest
L655[14:17:39] <Sangar> istasi, no i did not
L656[14:17:45] <istasi> have it on screen and be able to click
L657[14:17:48] <Potato|Factorio> urmergurd
L658[14:17:50] <Potato|Factorio> its raining
L659[14:18:07] <Potato|Factorio> Oh wait, thats a water leak
L660[14:18:13] <Potato|Factorio> x_x
L661[14:18:50] <Potato|Factorio> Someone ran into the fire hydrant next to my house
L662[14:20:35] <istasi> :O
L663[14:21:12] <skyem123> ...
L664[14:21:20] <istasi> what did you do skyem123?
L665[14:21:56] <skyem123> There
L666[14:21:56] <skyem123> wa
L667[14:21:56] <skyem123> ..
L668[14:22:45] <skyem123> I doubt the rain here is from a fire hydrant.
L669[14:24:08] <istasi> could be!
L670[14:24:27] <skyem123> a god sized one?
L671[14:25:18] * istasi imagens how big that would be
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L673[14:25:59] <skyem123> :o
L674[14:27:47] * istasi explodes
L675[14:28:02] <CompanionCube> why
L676[14:29:43] <skyem123> wat
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L678[14:31:57] <skyem123> ok... why did you explode istasi?
L679[14:32:45] <istasi> exploded people clearly cannot talk, since well they exploded, like into small bits
L680[14:33:04] <skyem123> you respawned...
L681[14:33:09] <skyem123> :-p
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L683[14:33:19] <istasi> oh, then, i couldn't contain the image i was trying to imagen
L684[14:33:38] <skyem123> a god sized fire hydrant.
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L686[14:34:32] <skyem123> BRAIN HAS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR. PRESS `R` to reboot.
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L688[14:35:43] <istasi> damnit, i only got a r, my keyboard doesn't have the capitalized one! -.-'
L689[14:36:03] <skyem123> `r` WILL DO.
L690[14:36:17] <ds84182> Ř
L691[14:36:36] <skyem123> YAWN!
L692[14:36:41] <skyem123> wat.
L693[14:36:53] <skyem123> Oh, Hello! ^^
L694[14:37:03] <ds84182> Я
L695[14:37:16] <skyem123> My defualt state is tired and "wat."
L696[14:37:36] <skyem123> !NWAY
L697[14:37:42] <skyem123> .taw
L698[14:37:53] <ds84182> Ţèâм Яöčкëť
L699[14:38:54] <skyem123> the wat?
L700[14:39:00] <skyem123> wat.
L701[14:39:05] <skyem123> Back to normal!
L702[14:39:08] <skyem123> ^^
L703[14:44:50] <Sangar> asie, is there a way to generate charge from charcoal in factorization?
L704[14:44:54] <Sangar> (or coal)
L705[14:45:11] <CompanionCube> back in my day keyboards only had 3 keys (or two if you were a cheapskate): 1, 0, and Enter if you weren't a cheapskat
L706[14:45:40] <asie> Sangar: not exactly
L707[14:45:47] <asie> you can use RailCraft steam as a measure, though
L708[14:45:56] <asie> as it can be converted
L709[14:46:01] <Sangar> hmhm, ok.
L710[14:46:17] <ph1x3r> keyboard! I had toggle switches to load in the byte and one button to "load" it.
L711[14:46:18] <asie> neptune told you to do it by eye
L712[14:46:27] <asie> as there is no energy standard
L713[14:46:33] <asie> about IC2 Classic... grab the 1.7.2 jar
L714[14:46:37] <asie> it uses a different namespace
L715[14:46:39] <asie> so don't worry about compat
L716[14:46:58] <Sangar> meh, i'd like to have at least some point of reference :P
L717[14:47:38] <CompanionCube> ph1x3r: switches! I had to manually generate charge on the required circuits.
L718[14:47:42] <Sangar> asie, ic2: from immibis' post?
L719[14:48:18] <asie> yes
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L721[14:48:56] * skyem123 watches the unfolding monty python sketch between CompanionCube and ph1x3r.
L722[14:49:09] <skyem123> or xkcd comic
L723[14:50:34] <CompanionCube> or http://www.mscha.net/tmp/dt19920908.gif
L724[14:50:50] <CompanionCube> skyem123, ^
L725[14:51:17] * skyem123 fires up wger
L726[14:51:32] <skyem123> *wget
L727[14:52:26] <skyem123> It's the only way I can download images on this internet.
L728[14:52:31] <CompanionCube> http://zeljkofilipin.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/real-programmers-code-in-binary.jpg
L729[14:52:36] <skyem123> .ping
L730[14:52:45] <ph1x3r> Ack! The chunkloader component doesn't seem to work :(
L731[14:52:58] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 21.47s
L732[14:53:25] <CompanionCube> .....wut
L733[14:53:29] <CompanionCube> how can you
L734[14:53:37] <CompanionCube> IRC with that internet
L735[14:53:58] <skyem123> Only IRC
L736[14:54:04] <istasi> uh, sky's internet is abit better than normal isn't it?
L737[14:54:20] <CompanionCube> hahahahahahahahah NO
L738[14:54:29] <istasi> pretty sure its normally around 23
L739[14:54:41] <skyem123> I once got 100s
L740[14:54:41] <skyem123> so yeah...
L741[14:54:53] <CompanionCube> istasi, I live in a village. I've never gotten above 10-11mbps iirc.
L742[14:55:40] <CompanionCube> and the traffic management policy is shitty
L743[14:55:45] <JoshTheEnder> back from 'family wii time' which basically involved me and my sister trying to beat each other whilst my mother and my 4 year old brother got annoyed because they couldnt do stuff
L744[14:55:54] <skyem123> I'm on mobile internet.
L745[14:56:24] <skyem123> on holiday
L746[14:56:53] <skyem123> eheheh.
L747[14:57:31] <CompanionCube> istasi, Any ISP with a daily limit on what you can d/l sucks
L748[14:57:49] <istasi> yup :)
L749[14:58:05] <CompanionCube> with our package it's 1.3GB
L750[14:58:21] <ph1x3r> very mobile carrier I know of has limits. even "unlimited" isn't if you read the fine print.
L751[14:58:23] <JoshTheEnder> luckily for me, Sky (British ISP) does not have any caps or limits for using too much
L752[14:58:27] <skyem123> a download limit?
L753[14:58:27] <skyem123> eew...
L754[14:58:29] <istasi> what?, that low?
L755[14:58:40] <CompanionCube> JoshTheEnder, orly
L756[14:58:50] * CompanionCube points at Sky Broadband Connecy
L757[14:58:53] <CompanionCube> *Connect
L758[14:58:54] <skyem123> Unlimited mobile internet ftw!
L759[14:58:54] <skyem123> Even though it's slow.
L760[14:59:10] <JoshTheEnder> CompanionCube: Sky's been pretty good
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L762[14:59:41] <skyem123> 1 min to download 27KB
L763[14:59:41] <skyem123> Also, virgin media does not have a download cap
L764[14:59:58] <JoshTheEnder> skyem123: it did used to at somepoint
L765[15:00:07] <JoshTheEnder> well, it was more of a transfer cap
L766[15:00:20] <JoshTheEnder> cause it counted both firections
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L768[15:00:23] <CompanionCube> oops
L769[15:00:24] <skyem123> dun dun dun!
L770[15:00:26] <JoshTheEnder> *directions
L771[15:01:02] <CompanionCube> JoshTheEnder, I once tried to download EVE online. The speed turned to shit when doing it.
L772[15:01:27] <JoshTheEnder> CompanionCube: how long ago was that?
L773[15:01:45] <CompanionCube> can't exactly remember, but it was either last month or June
L774[15:02:04] <JoshTheEnder> also the way Eve Online downloads the game files, it will use any and all bandwidth it can
L775[15:02:27] <CompanionCube> JoshTheEnder, I was using the offline installer
L776[15:02:50] <JoshTheEnder> then how is that in anyway going to affect your internet?
L777[15:02:56] <skyem123> 101010 is 42
L778[15:03:20] <CompanionCube> JoshTheEnder, because you have to download the files for it to install
L779[15:04:09] <JoshTheEnder> well, Browsers (i'm guessing that's what you used to download it) generally don't have that high of a download rate
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L781[15:04:46] <ds84182> .l tonumber("101010",2)
L782[15:04:46] <^v> ds84182, 42
L783[15:04:59] <skyem123> ^^
L784[15:05:14] <skyem123> 42 == the_answer
L785[15:05:26] <skyem123> 42 == life.the_answer
L786[15:05:38] <skyem123> 42 == universe.the_answer
L787[15:05:46] <istasi> skyem123, why?
L788[15:06:27] <skyem123> the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.
L789[15:06:30] <ds84182> .l tonumber("10000101",2)
L790[15:06:30] <^v> ds84182, 133
L791[15:06:33] <ds84182> dangit
L792[15:06:36] <ds84182> .l tonumber("1000101",2)
L793[15:06:36] <^v> ds84182, 69
L794[15:06:39] <ds84182> hehe
L795[15:06:42] <skyem123> READ IT!
L796[15:06:46] <ds84182> Alissa, 1000101
L797[15:07:39] * skyem123 strangles ds84182
L798[15:07:49] <ds84182> hehe strangle
L799[15:08:22] <skyem123> wat.
L800[15:08:51] <skyem123> you're meant to be dead! ¬_¬
L801[15:09:00] <robhol> .l function worlds_worst_powerof2_calc(exp) return tonumber("1" .. string.repeat("0", exp), 2); end
L802[15:09:00] <^v> robhol, lua:1: <name> expected near 'repeat'
L803[15:09:10] <CompanionCube> wheeeee
L804[15:09:19] <robhol> there's no repeat?
L805[15:09:33] <robhol> .l string.rep
L806[15:09:33] <^v> robhol, function: 0x41cea0
L807[15:09:37] <robhol> -.-
L808[15:09:50] <robhol> .l function worlds_worst_powerof2_calc(exp) return tonumber("1" .. string.rep("0", exp), 2); end
L809[15:09:50] <^v> robhol, nil
L810[15:10:06] <robhol> .l worlds_worst_powerof2_calc(3)
L811[15:10:06] <^v> robhol, lua:1: attempt to call global 'worlds_worst_powerof2_calc' (a nil value)
L812[15:10:12] <robhol> sigh.
L813[15:10:19] * robhol murders ^v.
L814[15:12:31] <ping> sorreh
L815[15:12:32] <skyem123> .l function worlds_worst_powerof2_calc(exp) return tonumber("1" .. string.rep("0", exp), 2); end worlds_worst_powerof2_calc(3)
L816[15:12:32] <^v> skyem123, nil
L817[15:12:36] <ping> return
L818[15:12:37] <ping> :P
L819[15:13:10] <robhol> but.. the return is in there :p
L820[15:13:25] <Kilobyte> lua, y u no implicit return
L821[15:13:26] <robhol> it doesn't autoreturn the last statement?
L822[15:13:38] <skyem123> .l function worlds_worst_powerof2_calc(exp) return tonumber("1" .. string.rep("0", exp), 2); end return worlds_worst_powerof2_calc(3)
L823[15:13:38] <^v> skyem123, 8
L824[15:13:52] <skyem123> fixd
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L826[15:14:08] <robhol> .l return tonumber("1" .. string.rep("0", exp), 32);
L827[15:14:08] <^v> robhol, lua:1: bad argument #2 to 'rep' (number expected, got nil)
L828[15:14:15] <robhol> derp
L829[15:14:31] <robhol> .l return tonumber("1" .. string.rep("0", 32), 2); -- *blush*
L830[15:14:31] <^v> robhol, 4294967296
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L835[15:44:48] <istasi> sangar btw, the drag event, possible to have it being thrown where the mousedown, touch is being triggered?, that way i can be lazy and not having to do code checking every touch as possible drags ?
L836[15:46:32] <Sangar> i'd like to keep those separate, since it has more information this way. you can just add an eventlistener that queues a drag event whenever a touch event arrives yourself on boot.
L837[15:47:33] <istasi> i was thinking just throwing 2 signals on drag, one being where the touch was, the the normal one, where the touch is being dragged, but meh, oh well, will fake it then
L838[15:48:31] <Sangar> huh?
L839[15:48:32] <istasi> so like, 1x1 gets a touch, then you drag to 2x1, event wise that'd be touch:1x1, drag:1x1, drag:2x1, versus the current, touch:1x1, drag:2x1
L840[15:48:45] <Sangar> well, yes.
L841[15:49:07] <Sangar> just do event.listen("touch", function(_, ...) os.queueSignal("drag", ...) end)
L842[15:49:32] <Sangar> or was it pushSignal?
L843[15:49:36] <istasi> yeah, i can work around it no problems, it just seems to me, like it should be there
L844[15:49:37] <istasi> pushSignal
L845[15:49:59] <Sangar> but it isn't a drag :P
L846[15:50:07] <ds84182> ugh, school starts in 2 daaaaaaays
L847[15:50:09] <ds84182> q-q
L848[15:50:17] <istasi> it isn't a touch either before mouse is released is it?
L849[15:50:46] <Sangar> yes it is. touch is basically mouse down, drag is mouse move, and drop is mouse up iff the mouse moved
L850[15:51:37] <skyem123> I have 5 weeks of holiday
L851[15:51:40] <skyem123> *4
L852[15:51:43] <skyem123> left
L853[15:51:55] <istasi> in scotland as truck driver map holder?
L854[15:53:21] <ds84182> Hopefully it doesn't snow as ungodly much as it did last year
L855[15:53:47] <ds84182> Georgia can only take like an inch, please don't bring us more
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L857[15:55:09] <skyem123> no, after this week, home with good computer and internet!
L858[16:04:48] <istasi> then more miniOS dev'ing :D
L859[16:07:21] <skyem123> yup
L860[16:08:46] <CompanionCube> isn't miniOS that OS that auto-mounts driveletters?
L861[16:08:54] <istasi> yup
L862[16:09:02] <CompanionCube> never a fan of those
L863[16:09:09] * CompanionCube prefers Unixy stuff
L864[16:09:24] *** justastranger|zzz is now known as justastranger
L865[16:10:05] <JoshTheEnder> I'm generally not fussed, then again I don't do much from a windows command prompt
L866[16:15:03] <Kilobyte> the windows command prompt is pretty much useless though
L867[16:15:37] <ph1x3r> <--- Doesn't even have a windows computer at home.
L868[16:16:09] <Kilobyte> :D
L869[16:16:12] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, yeah. I have been using it a lot this week though because of helping out with college pcs and some stuff is ran from the command prompt (stuff like policy updates)
L870[16:16:56] <skyem123> directories will be done bad as well. :-p
L871[16:17:13] <justastranger> Kilobyte: cmd is as useful as the tools you have for it
L872[16:17:36] <Kilobyte> miniOS will probably not be OpenPosix compliant I guess
L873[16:17:44] <justastranger> if you download all the gnuwin tools, it'll be kind of useful :P
L874[16:17:49] <ph1x3r> Just install cygwin and to heck with cmd.exe.
L875[16:17:51] <JoshTheEnder> right, i'm off to dinner
L876[16:17:52] <JoshTheEnder> o/
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L878[16:17:57] <CompanionCube> I use cmd frequently. Because it's easier to get to than bash.
L879[16:18:17] <CompanionCube> though my %PATH% is very long now.
L880[16:18:26] <Kilobyte> mingw/cygwin
L881[16:18:56] <Kilobyte> istasi: or will it be?
L882[16:19:01] <CompanionCube> There should be an OS designed for servers - possibly even more lightweight than miniOS
L883[16:19:08] <istasi> kilo?
L884[16:19:23] <skyem123> i use cmd when i need to
L885[16:19:29] <Kilobyte> read my last messages
L886[16:19:32] <istasi> if you're referering to miniOS, im not the one writing that, that'd be skyem123
L887[16:19:45] <Kilobyte> I use bash
L888[16:19:54] <Kilobyte> oh derp
L889[16:20:11] <Potato|Factorio> Ermergerd Factorio is sooooo cool.
L890[16:20:20] <skyem123> it crashes because of my sd card reader.
L891[16:20:22] <Kilobyte> and yeah, might switch to zsh
L892[16:20:45] <Potato|Factorio> There should be an mod for Factorio that adds lua computers
L893[16:20:51] <Potato|Factorio> I think the game was written in lua
L894[16:20:53] <Potato|Factorio> so yah
L895[16:21:06] <Kilobyte> its in c++
L896[16:21:09] <Potato|Factorio> Meh
L897[16:21:12] <Potato|Factorio> Close enough
L898[16:21:19] <Kilobyte> but lua scriptable
L899[16:21:23] <Potato|Factorio> It has a lua console in it
L900[16:21:44] <Kilobyte> skyem123: so will miniOS ever comply with OpenPosix
L901[16:21:47] <skyem123> wat
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L903[16:22:13] <CompanionCube> I should strip down MiniOS more to create an 'embedded server' OS
L904[16:22:23] <skyem123> c++ != lua
L905[16:22:23] <skyem123> OR
L906[16:22:23] <skyem123> c++ ~= lua
L907[16:22:27] <Kilobyte> standard im working on for oses
L908[16:23:07] <skyem123> when you write the driver
L909[16:24:03] <skyem123> miniOS already is an "embedded" os
L910[16:24:20] <Kilobyte> well, its a very complex standard :P
L911[16:25:28] <Kilobyte> I might actually take out requirement for multiple processes
L912[16:25:39] <skyem123> where is OpenPosix
L913[16:25:45] <istasi> i'd be able to follow the thread ones somewhat easy, wouldn't require much rewriting, atm im doing id's with math.random (), just adding a counter would hardly be troublesome
L914[16:25:52] <Kilobyte> so non-multitasking oses can comply too
L915[16:25:57] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, you could always change it to 'STRONGLY ENCOURAGED'
L916[16:27:08] <Kilobyte> we got the SHOULD keyword for that
L917[16:28:14] <skyem123> does openposix have a way to tell the os that a program is an openpoxix program>
L918[16:28:20] <skyem123> ?
L919[16:29:03] <CompanionCube> skyem123, does MiniOS have networking?
L920[16:30:00] <Kilobyte> im thinking about requiring the first line to be /bin/lua -p
L921[16:30:05] <Kilobyte> err
L922[16:30:12] <skyem123> CompanionCube: No. Nor does OpenOS
L923[16:30:40] <Kilobyte> s/\//#!\//
L924[16:30:40] <Kibibyte> <Kilobyte> im thinking about requiring the first line to be #!/bin/lua -p
L925[16:31:15] <CompanionCube> skyem123, what I meant was - does it have a network API? for modems and such?
L926[16:31:19] <istasi> -p ?
L927[16:31:29] <Kilobyte> -p == posix
L928[16:31:39] <skyem123> -p?
L929[16:32:09] <skyem123> CompanionCube: you can rip them from OpenOS. I use the same event system.
L930[16:32:17] <skyem123> ah
L931[16:32:59] <skyem123> that could be a driver.
L932[16:32:59] <skyem123> that checks for #!/bin/lua -p
L933[16:33:19] <gamax92> isn't the #! the shell's job
L934[16:33:45] <skyem123> override the program starting function... then check for that code...
L935[16:34:41] <skyem123> My shell does not load programs.
L936[16:34:46] <Kilobyte> skyem123: make /bin/lua accept plugins?
L937[16:35:04] <Kilobyte> so a plugin could handle -p
L938[16:35:24] <skyem123> It passes the filename to the os
L939[16:35:24] <skyem123> to save ram.
L940[16:35:24] <skyem123> the shell unload
L941[16:35:25] <istasi> requiring /bin/lua -p defines how the filesystem should look though, doesn't it?
L942[16:36:10] <skyem123> there is no /bin/lua
L943[16:36:23] <CompanionCube> Who said /bin couldn't be a symlink? :p
L944[16:36:27] <Kilobyte> well, OpenPosix implies unix style paths
L945[16:37:16] <Kilobyte> it also requires existance of /dev, /sys, /bin and a few others (haven't written that part yet)
L946[16:37:18] <skyem123> how about: if _OPENPOSIX then _OPENPOSIX.enable()?
L947[16:37:53] <gamax92> Kilobyte: have you ever read the TLK Linux book?
L948[16:38:04] <Kilobyte> gamax92: nope, doubt it
L949[16:38:09] <Kilobyte> skyem123: https://gist.github.com/Kilobyte22/78473433c969eb671998
L950[16:38:21] <gamax92> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/tlk/tlk.html Despite it being based on 2.0.33, is still an interesting read
L951[16:38:24] <Kilobyte> its still WIP though
L952[16:38:40] <Kilobyte> bookmarked
L953[16:38:50] <Kilobyte> i surely need something to read when in car tomorrow
L954[16:38:53] <skyem123> Is there a draft I can download?
L955[16:39:08] <Kilobyte> skyem123: check the gist i linked
L956[16:39:20] <skyem123> I want to enable openposix only if needed.
L957[16:40:04] <skyem123> thanks
L958[16:40:09] <CompanionCube> maybe require("openposix"_
L959[16:40:12] <CompanionCube> *)
L960[16:40:42] <Kilobyte> no, because it does not add the the api
L961[16:40:53] <Kilobyte> it mainly removes quite a few things
L962[16:41:04] <Kilobyte> or something
L963[16:41:21] <CompanionCube> like?
L964[16:42:01] <skyem123> you don't need to have a unix fs for #!/bin/lua -p
L965[16:42:34] <skyem123> you can have something like python on windows that checks for #!/usr/bin/env python3
L966[16:43:19] <skyem123> .ping
L967[16:43:45] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 26.21s
L968[16:47:07] <skyem123> even wget won't work to download it
L969[16:49:00] <istasi> can you make github show a list of all files along with modified date, on a downloadable page ?
L970[16:50:18] <Kilobyte> skyem123: D:
L971[16:50:44] <Kilobyte> istasi: try this one https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Kilobyte22/78473433c969eb671998/raw/5ee561906badc7f0e21e73e64c43903f7e0897b4/openposix.md
L972[16:50:57] * istasi pokes Kilobyte
L973[16:51:07] <istasi> skyem123 and me are not the same person.
L974[16:51:08] * Kilobyte likes slapping people and randomly picks istasi to slap
L975[16:51:14] <skyem123> can you give me the ip of gist.github.com?
L976[16:51:14] <Kilobyte> err
L977[16:51:17] <Kilobyte> tab fail
L978[16:51:19] <Kilobyte> sorry
L979[16:51:53] <Kilobyte> 192.30.252.143
L980[16:51:55] <Kilobyte> skyem123: ^
L981[16:51:59] <istasi> its okay Kodos, no worries
L982[16:52:25] <Kilobyte> stop picking random idle ppl :P
L983[16:53:03] <Kilobyte> istasi: my client has the nice feature: complete last person
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L985[16:53:14] <Kilobyte> basicly, when i tab in an empty input bar
L986[16:53:16] <skyem123> it's downloading...
L987[16:53:29] <skyem123> finally...
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L991[17:04:56] <skyem123> I need a markdown processor
L992[17:05:16] <ph1x3r> woohoo! I just got a robot called Kilobyte! :)
L993[17:05:24] <Kilobyte> ph1x3r: :D
L994[17:05:41] <Kilobyte> skyem123: markdown is made to be easy to read, even without processor
L995[17:06:04] <Kilobyte> but you may wanna look into redcarpet, the markdown parser (lib) github uses
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L997[17:11:12] <skyem123> is there redcarpet for the linux command line?
L998[17:12:13] <Kilobyte> skyem123: recarpet installs an executable too
L999[17:12:17] <Kilobyte> gem install redcarpet
L1000[17:12:23] <skyem123> huh... interesting documentation...
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L1002[17:13:52] <skyem123> installing ruby
L1003[17:14:13] <Kilobyte> using rvm? :P
L1004[17:15:34] <skyem123> ?
L1005[17:15:46] <Kilobyte> ruby version manager
L1006[17:16:12] <skyem123> rvm?
L1007[17:16:24] <Kilobyte> yes
L1008[17:16:30] <Kilobyte> rvm == ruby version manager
L1009[17:16:39] <Kilobyte> http://rvm.io/
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L1011[17:17:19] <Kilobyte> bbl food
L1012[17:17:27] <skyem123> downloading anything will take a wile
L1013[17:17:28] <skyem123> s/wile/while
L1014[17:17:28] <Kibibyte> <skyem123> downloading anything will take a while
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L1016[17:19:55] <skyem123> trapped with bad internet, send help.
L1017[17:20:13] <Kilobyte> :D
L1018[17:20:18] <Kilobyte> *D:
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L1020[17:20:34] <skyem123> oh.
L1021[17:21:15] <skyem123> it's not preinstalled.
L1022[17:21:15] <skyem123> Kibibyte?
L1023[17:21:15] <skyem123> trapped with bad internet, send help.
L1024[17:21:32] <Kilobyte> how D:
L1025[17:21:59] <skyem123> wat?
L1026[17:21:59] <skyem123> Is Kibibyte becoming sentinet or are you messing with me?
L1027[17:22:25] <Kilobyte> im still kilobyte
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L1029[17:24:40] <Vexatos> Kilobyte evolves to Megabyte!
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L1040[17:49:11] <skyem123> hello
L1041[17:49:14] <skyem123> .ping
L1042[17:49:17] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 3.42s
L1043[17:49:37] <skyem123> :-O
L1044[17:49:55] <Kilobyte> .p
L1045[17:49:56] <^v> Ping reply from Kilobyte 0.4s
L1046[17:50:05] <Kilobyte> .p skyem123
L1047[17:50:10] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 5.59s
L1048[17:50:18] <istasi> what happend?
L1049[17:50:23] <Kilobyte> thats not too bad
L1050[17:50:28] <skyem123> Downloading a file
L1051[17:50:57] <skyem123> internet died, then came back "better"
L1052[17:51:11] <Kilobyte> :D
L1053[17:51:24] <skyem123> better is relative
L1054[17:51:24] <skyem123> .ping
L1055[17:51:39] <Caitlyn> %p
L1056[17:51:41] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Caitlyn 0.321s
L1057[17:52:02] <skyem123> 3 hours for 4 megabytes
L1058[17:52:22] <Caitlyn> Blistering speed there...
L1059[17:52:25] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 60.78s
L1060[17:52:33] <skyem123> 1 hour for 12 megabytes
L1061[17:53:16] <skyem123> I want dial-up
L1062[17:53:47] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L1063[17:53:48] <^v> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.24s
L1064[17:54:00] <SpiritedDusty> .p
L1065[17:54:01] <^v> Ping reply from SpiritedDusty 0.63s
L1066[17:54:24] <Potato|Factorio> .p
L1067[17:54:24] <^v> Ping reply from Potato|Factorio 0.15s
L1068[17:54:52] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L1069[17:54:52] <^v> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.21s
L1070[17:54:58] <Kilobyte> .p
L1071[17:54:59] <^v> Ping reply from Kilobyte 0.25s
L1072[17:55:50] <skyem123> %p
L1073[17:56:12] <MichiBot> Ping reply from skyem123 22.072s
L1074[17:56:37] <JoshTheEnder> %p
L1075[17:56:38] <MichiBot> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.591s
L1076[17:56:39] <MichiBot> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.318s
L1077[17:56:44] <JoshTheEnder> Wut
L1078[17:56:53] <JoshTheEnder> Ohh, computer
L1079[17:56:55] <Caitlyn> »» Ping reply from JoshTheEnder: 0.733 second(s)
L1080[17:56:55] <Caitlyn> »» Ping reply from JoshTheEnder: 1.125 second(s)
L1081[17:57:01] <skyem123> wat
L1082[17:57:17] <CompanionCube> .p
L1083[17:57:17] <Caitlyn> JoshTheEnder, has 2 clients on his bouncer, they both replied
L1084[17:57:17] <^v> Ping reply from CompanionCube 0.36s
L1085[17:57:25] <JoshTheEnder> Lol, I'm out on phone and pc still on
L1086[17:57:30] <istasi> .p
L1087[17:57:31] <^v> Ping reply from istasi 0.34s
L1088[17:57:38] <SpiritedDusty> %p
L1089[17:57:39] <MichiBot> Ping reply from SpiritedDusty 0.721s
L1090[17:57:41] <skyem123> why two pings?
L1091[17:57:46] <istasi> %p
L1092[17:57:47] <MichiBot> Ping reply from istasi 0.282s
L1093[17:58:01] <Caitlyn> skyem123, because he has 2 clients..
L1094[17:58:10] <CompanionCube> %p
L1095[17:58:11] <MichiBot> Ping reply from CompanionCube 0.276s
L1096[17:58:16] <Caitlyn> MichiBot, pings, his bouncers sends to both, they both reply
L1097[17:58:20] <skyem123> 2 clients?
L1098[17:58:41] <Caitlyn> you can connect as many clients to a bouncer as you want, and it still looks like 1 nick
L1099[17:58:52] <Caitlyn> I've had 6 clients on a bouncer at once, all on the same nick
L1100[17:59:22] <Caitlyn> phone, 2 tablets, laptop, desktop and my server.
L1101[17:59:30] <skyem123> lets not botspam.
L1102[17:59:32] <JoshTheEnder> [?JoshTheEnder VERSION reply] HexChat 2.9.6 / Linux 3.13.0-24-generic [x86_64/1.60GHz/SMP]
L1103[17:59:33] <Caitlyn> And no matter which one I was using it came from this same nick.
L1104[17:59:36] <JoshTheEnder> [?JoshTheEnder VERSION reply] AndroIRC - Android IRC Client (4.0 beta 3 - Build aff8fd0) - http://www.androirc.com
L1105[18:00:04] <Caitlyn> -Notice- {from JoshTheEnder} VERSION 404, fuck not found
L1106[18:00:06] <Caitlyn> ahem..
L1107[18:00:07] <Caitlyn> :P
L1108[18:00:09] <JoshTheEnder> Lol
L1109[18:00:19] <Caitlyn> -Notice- {from Caitlyn} VERSION mIRC v4.5 Khaled Mardam-Bey
L1110[18:00:19] <Caitlyn> :D
L1111[18:00:25] <JoshTheEnder> I think it does that fir time aswell
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L1113[18:01:02] <skyem123> bouncer?
L1114[18:01:22] <Caitlyn> http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC
L1115[18:01:29] <JoshTheEnder> Like an irc proxy with persistent
L1116[18:01:41] <JoshTheEnder> Persistent
L1117[18:01:45] <JoshTheEnder> Meh
L1118[18:01:57] <skyem123> Please note that most things I say will be 20 seconds late
L1119[18:02:11] <Caitlyn> Also, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_(software)
L1120[18:02:19] <CompanionCube> My client is meh.
L1121[18:02:40] <Caitlyn> It's also a decent way to hid your IP.. :P
L1122[18:02:43] <skyem123> what is a bouncer?
L1123[18:02:58] <Kilobyte> a bouncer is kinda like a proxy for IRC
L1124[18:03:03] <Kilobyte> but its smart about IRC
L1125[18:03:06] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L1126[18:03:15] <Kilobyte> it can relay messages that happen while you are AFK for example
L1127[18:03:33] <JoshTheEnder> %p
L1128[18:03:34] <MichiBot> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.334s
L1129[18:03:35] <MichiBot> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 1.848s
L1130[18:03:37] <^v> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 1.39s
L1131[18:03:46] <Kilobyte> or you can connect mulpiple clients at same time
L1132[18:03:49] <JoshTheEnder> ^v Is late
L1133[18:04:31] <CompanionCube> %p
L1134[18:04:32] <MichiBot> Ping reply from CompanionCube 0.282s
L1135[18:04:48] <JoshTheEnder> $ping
L1136[18:04:49] <^vDoge> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.52 s
L1137[18:05:32] <JoshTheEnder> Ok then, not the bot I was expected
L1138[18:05:38] <Caitlyn> lol
L1139[18:05:58] <JoshTheEnder> S/expected/expecting
L1140[18:06:00] <Caitlyn> I should paste a multiline with all the bot ping commands...
L1141[18:06:07] <Caitlyn> get really spammy
L1142[18:06:08] <Caitlyn> :P
L1143[18:06:11] <JoshTheEnder> Lol
L1144[18:06:46] <skyem123> any good ones for linux mint / ubuntu / debian
L1145[18:06:55] <JoshTheEnder> !
L1146[18:07:06] <JoshTheEnder> skyem123, what!
L1147[18:07:11] <JoshTheEnder> Ffa
L1148[18:07:21] <Caitlyn> znc.
L1149[18:07:25] <Caitlyn> ZNC is best BNC.
L1150[18:07:25] <JoshTheEnder> Replace! With?
L1151[18:07:33] <JoshTheEnder> Indeed
L1152[18:09:03] <skyem123> wa?
L1153[18:09:04] <skyem123> znc?
L1154[18:09:15] <JoshTheEnder> I need to update znc at somepoint
L1155[18:09:17] <Caitlyn> http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC
L1156[18:09:22] <Caitlyn> skyem123, ^ znc
L1157[18:09:36] <skyem123> bnc == bouncer
L1158[18:10:09] <JoshTheEnder> Caitlyn, remember his messages are delayed
L1159[18:10:24] <skyem123> right/
L1160[18:10:30] <Caitlyn> Yes, I know.... I just posted the link again incase it got lost in the 400 ping requests.
L1161[18:10:31] <JoshTheEnder> [skyem123 PING reply] 26428 ms
L1162[18:10:36] <JoshTheEnder> Lol
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L1164[18:11:28] <skyem123> ^^; so slow
L1165[18:11:37] <JoshTheEnder> Hrmm
L1166[18:11:38] <JoshTheEnder> [Caitlyn TIME reply] Buy a watch!
L1167[18:11:44] <JoshTheEnder> Lol
L1168[18:12:01] <Caitlyn> Ping reply from Caitlyn: 1099339.867 second(s)
L1169[18:12:27] <gamax92> [gamax92 TIME reply] Thu 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT
L1170[18:13:23] <CompanionCube> do me
L1171[18:13:27] <gamax92> no eww
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L1173[18:16:18] <skyem123> .ping
L1174[18:16:55] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 37.45s
L1175[18:17:58] <skyem123> ...
L1176[18:22:44] <skyem123> .ping
L1177[18:23:03] <ph1x3r> pong
L1178[18:23:20] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L1179[18:23:21] <^v> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.25s
L1180[18:23:46] <ph1x3r> .p
L1181[18:23:49] <^v> Ping reply from ph1x3r 3.43s
L1182[18:24:23] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 99.04s
L1183[18:25:02] <ph1x3r> that ping figure can't be right. I am sitting on a 100M FiOS connection.
L1184[18:25:26] <skyem123> ...
L1185[18:25:38] <skyem123> FiOS?
L1186[18:25:47] <Caitlyn> Ping reply from ph1x3r: 0.873 second(s)
L1187[18:26:07] <ph1x3r> fiber optic connection. I am in the USA
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L1190[18:27:58] <skyem123> .ping
L1191[18:28:38] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 40.56s
L1192[18:29:12] <skyem123> Ahh...
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L1194[18:37:11] <ping> back
L1195[18:37:20] <ping> jez
L1196[18:37:24] <ping> botspam day
L1197[18:37:30] <Potato|Factorio> .wobbo
L1198[18:37:30] <^v> Potato|Factorio, WoooooooobbooooooooWobbooooooooooWooooooobbooooooooWoooooooobboooooooWooooooooobboooooooooWoooooobbooooo
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L1200[18:39:56] <skyem123> ...
L1201[18:40:09] <CompanionCube> what?
L1202[18:41:41] <skyem123> I was talking about Potato|Factorio.
L1203[18:45:46] <skyem123> Yay ruby finally installed.
L1204[18:48:09] <ping> <_>
L1205[18:48:13] <ping> "finnaly"
L1206[18:48:48] <skyem123> It only took an hour.
L1207[18:48:48] <skyem123> ^^;
L1208[18:49:19] <skyem123> wat
L1209[18:49:22] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L1210[18:49:22] <^v> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.23s
L1211[18:49:32] <ping> <_>
L1212[18:53:06] <skyem123> .ping
L1213[18:53:29] <ping> ^v is not a ping machine
L1214[18:53:38] <ping> >_>
L1215[18:53:56] <skyem123> don't call yourself ping, if a bot command is ping.
L1216[18:53:56] <skyem123> ^^
L1217[18:53:56] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 50.46s
L1218[18:53:57] <JoshTheEnder> ping, but it is :P
L1219[18:54:05] <CompanionCube> .ping
L1220[18:54:09] <CompanionCube> .ping
L1221[18:54:09] <JoshTheEnder> %p
L1222[18:54:11] <MichiBot> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 1.637s
L1223[18:54:14] <CompanionCube> %p
L1224[18:54:15] <MichiBot> Ping reply from CompanionCube 0.369s
L1225[18:54:18] <ping> .p
L1226[18:54:23] <JoshTheEnder> MichiBot, be slow
L1227[18:54:26] <JoshTheEnder> %p
L1228[18:54:27] <MichiBot> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.324s
L1229[18:54:31] <JoshTheEnder> better
L1230[18:54:40] <^v> Ping reply from CompanionCube 0.35s
L1231[18:54:40] <^v> Ping reply from ping 0.6s
L1232[18:55:01] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder: Rule 3 much?
L1233[18:55:05] <JoshTheEnder> ?
L1234[18:56:07] <JoshTheEnder> eh, ping commands i dont mind as much, its just the longer stuff like the jenkins commands and lua
L1235[18:59:08] <skyem123> .ping
L1236[18:59:11] <skyem123> $ping
L1237[18:59:11] <skyem123> %ping
L1238[18:59:15] <skyem123> lets see...
L1239[18:59:20] <MichiBot> Ping reply from skyem123 7.928s
L1240[18:59:50] <ds84182> %ping
L1241[18:59:51] <MichiBot> Ping reply from ds84182 0.444s
L1242[18:59:54] <ds84182> 444
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L1245[19:01:21] <Sangar> so, to those playing around with the dev builds, i'd appreciate if someone could double check if all power mods that should be supported still work, i switched things around a bit. quick testing looked good, but more eyes are better :P
L1246[19:01:53] <MrHohenheim> :)
L1247[19:02:07] <^vDoge> Ping reply from skyem123 116.02 s
L1248[19:02:09] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 116.7s
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L1250[19:04:08] <skyem123> ...
L1251[19:04:18] <JoshTheEnder> my little brother is being slightly annoying, he's doing things to annoy me and i'm telling him to stop them. he just left my room saying "fine, i'll go get a better brother"
L1252[19:06:17] <skyem123> He is going to make an AI to replace you!
L1253[19:06:20] * Sangar is very happy to be a single child
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L1255[19:06:59] <JoshTheEnder> Sangar, me and my sister get along fine. my little brother is being annoying today
L1256[19:07:17] <JoshTheEnder> and it all started with "family wii time"
L1257[19:07:28] <JoshTheEnder> which was my mothers idea
L1258[19:08:03] <Sangar> >_>
L1259[19:08:12] <ping> http://i.imgur.com/t379uls.png
L1260[19:08:14] <ping> <_>
L1261[19:08:54] <Sangar> 'IDK'. brilliant.
L1262[19:10:02] <ping> .addfail http://i.imgur.com/t379uls.png
L1263[19:10:02] <^v> ping, Fail added
L1264[19:10:03] <JoshTheEnder> "i will get my money next month" Then like.... get it next month perhaps? gta isnt going to suddenly vanish in a month
L1265[19:10:07] <JoshTheEnder> .fail
L1266[19:10:07] <^v> JoshTheEnder, <Rolie129> How do I use my Server rack correctly again?
L1267[19:10:11] <ping> fail collection getting big
L1268[19:10:14] <JoshTheEnder> .fail
L1269[19:10:14] <^v> JoshTheEnder, Searches related to arm9 instruction set: "who makes the arm processor"
L1270[19:10:16] <ping> need moar
L1271[19:10:31] <JoshTheEnder> .fail
L1272[19:10:31] <^v> JoshTheEnder, <ping> .pipe rainbow | drama
L1273[19:10:39] <JoshTheEnder> eh?
L1274[19:11:01] <Sangar> that seems more like .random :P
L1275[19:11:41] <ds84182> JoshTheEnder, think about it
L1276[19:11:44] <ds84182> .pipe rainbow | drama
L1277[19:11:45] <^v> ds84182, RichardG forks Backpacks causing crashes
L1278[19:11:50] <JoshTheEnder> wut
L1279[19:11:52] <ds84182> no rainbows
L1280[19:11:56] <JoshTheEnder> ohh
L1281[19:11:58] <ds84182> because ping failed
L1282[19:12:26] <ping> this person just randomly friended me
L1283[19:12:29] <JoshTheEnder> how big is this 'fail' database?
L1284[19:12:46] <JoshTheEnder> i've had the same few things about 5 times over now :/
L1285[19:12:52] <ping> >_>
L1286[19:12:54] <ping> leme check
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L1288[19:12:58] <ds84182> if you /msg ^v .random, you also get another fail
L1289[19:13:11] <ping> .> file["db/esper/fails"]
L1290[19:13:11] <^v> ping, http://71.238.153.166/paste/wGGya.txt
L1291[19:13:25] <JoshTheEnder> wut
L1292[19:13:30] <JoshTheEnder> >^v< .random
L1293[19:13:31] <JoshTheEnder> -^v- JoshTheEnder, <^v> PING
L1294[19:13:41] <ping> idk why it does that
L1295[19:13:43] <ping> one sec
L1296[19:13:54] <JoshTheEnder> meh
L1297[19:13:56] <ds84182> "^v's fail collection"
L1298[19:14:01] <ds84182> best fail 20/10
L1299[19:14:25] <JoshTheEnder> ping, you need to add that to the fail database?
L1300[19:14:29] <JoshTheEnder> go away ?
L1301[19:14:32] <JoshTheEnder> ¬_¬
L1302[19:15:07] * JoshTheEnder forgets question marks on questions, puts them on normal sentances instead
L1303[19:15:09] <ph1x3r> is there a way for a robot to check if there is a charger next to it? Other than checking the charge level that is.
L1304[19:15:25] <ds84182> .w robot
L1305[19:15:26] <^v> ds84182, http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot
L1306[19:15:48] <JoshTheEnder> .fail
L1307[19:15:48] <^v> JoshTheEnder, <ping> .pipe rainbow | drama
L1308[19:15:55] <ds84182> hehe
L1309[19:16:11] <Sangar> ph1x3r, no
L1310[19:17:44] <ph1x3r> Is it worth a suggestion in the issues, or is it a non-desirable thing?
L1311[19:18:05] <JoshTheEnder> .addfail http://i.imgur.com/QVbsZ8M.gif
L1312[19:18:05] <^v> JoshTheEnder, Fail added
L1313[19:18:14] <ph1x3r> just something like robot.atCharger()
L1314[19:19:26] <ph1x3r> I am noticing that if a robot is at a charger, it never seems to reach 100% capacity. It is always 100 units below maximum
L1315[19:19:37] <JoshTheEnder> if it was going to be added it should be more like robot.isCharging()
L1316[19:20:32] <ph1x3r> Well, I can infer if it *is* charging because the charge goes up.
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L1318[19:21:19] <ph1x3r> Also, if the charger is turned off, then it won't be charging
L1319[19:23:18] <skyem123> back
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L1322[19:26:57] <CompanionCube> what is the point of the tier 3 CPU? even the Tier 3 Server Case only has 12 components
L1323[19:29:25] <skyem123> External components (screen, keyboard, redstone IO). I think.
L1324[19:30:56] <JoshTheEnder> yep
L1325[19:32:10] <ph1x3r> Eeek! Good job I have power suit on. I just stepped back into one of my mining holes :( 82 block drop!
L1326[19:33:39] <skyem123> fences
L1327[19:36:37] <ph1x3r> Oh, it didn't hurt. But it was just a surprise to see a wall whizzing past right in front of me.
L1328[19:37:47] <skyem123> fences
L1329[19:39:37] <skyem123> .ping
L1330[19:40:22] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 45.49s
L1331[19:41:00] * skyem123 sighs
L1332[19:42:14] <Caitlyn> yeah 64 components makes my openlights displays work, otherwise I'd have huge strings of computers linked together for it..
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L1335[19:50:13] <skyem123> ?
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L1337[19:53:18] <JoshTheEnder> .mcdown
L1338[19:53:18] <^v> JoshTheEnder, all good
L1339[19:53:30] <JoshTheEnder> i call bullshit
L1340[19:53:39] <Caitlyn> %mcstatus
L1341[19:53:40] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: Website: Up Session: Up Account: Up Auth: Up Skins: Up Auth: Up Session: Up API: Up Textures: Up
L1342[19:53:48] * JoshTheEnder stabs mc
L1343[19:53:49] <ds84182> calling bullshit
L1344[19:54:02] <ds84182> 1-800-BUL-SHIT
L1345[19:54:27] <ping> .mcstats
L1346[19:54:28] <^v> ping, all good
L1347[19:59:27] <Wuerfel_21> bye
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L1349[20:03:03] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, can Textural be installed in mint?
L1350[20:04:05] <Kilobyte> no
L1351[20:04:21] <Kilobyte> it only works with osx gui system
L1352[20:04:33] <JoshTheEnder> aww, it looks good and i wanted to use it whilst i update hexchat
L1353[20:04:38] <JoshTheEnder> ohwell
L1354[20:04:51] <Kilobyte> friend is working on a client
L1355[20:05:41] <JoshTheEnder> .mcdown
L1356[20:05:52] <JoshTheEnder> %mcstatus
L1357[20:05:53] <MichiBot> JoshTheEnder: Website: Up Session: Up Account: Up Auth: Up Skins: Up Auth: Up Session: Up API: Up Textures: Up
L1358[20:05:55] <^v> JoshTheEnder, all good
L1359[20:06:25] <JoshTheEnder> well, they can be pinged but sessions is returning 503s
L1360[20:06:30] <Caitlyn> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
L1361[20:07:09] <JoshTheEnder> well, sod trying to play modded mc then
L1362[20:07:25] <Wobbo> JoshTheEnder: Do you mean Textual irc client?
L1363[20:07:36] <JoshTheEnder> yes
L1364[20:08:00] <Wobbo> JoshTheEnder: That also depends on Apples event system for extensibility
L1365[20:08:20] <JoshTheEnder> meh, i'll stick with irssi as a backup client
L1366[20:08:39] <ph1x3r> xchat?
L1367[20:09:21] <JoshTheEnder> why would i want to install an older, outdated version of the client i already have?
L1368[20:09:39] <JoshTheEnder> i just want something to use whilst i compile the latest hexchat
L1369[20:10:19] <ph1x3r> Ah. But re-building the binary shouldn't stop you using the current binary
L1370[20:10:28] <JoshTheEnder> hmm
L1371[20:10:31] <JoshTheEnder> well
L1372[20:10:39] <JoshTheEnder> the current one was preinstalled
L1373[20:10:44] <JoshTheEnder> so i'm not sure
L1374[20:11:54] <ph1x3r> If you are running the binary, even removing the package shouldn't kick you off.
L1375[20:12:18] <ph1x3r> But just to be sure, ddon't use the 'make install' option.
L1376[20:12:42] <CompanionCube> What's the lua function to set the GPU's resolution?
L1377[20:13:00] <ph1x3r> Then it will just be a local binary in whatever directory you build it in
L1378[20:13:13] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder: ?
L1379[20:13:14] <Wobbo> .w gpu
L1380[20:13:14] <^v> Wobbo, http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L1381[20:13:36] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92: cant see that. On Irssi at the moment
L1382[20:13:39] <gamax92> aww
L1383[20:13:41] <Wobbo> CompanionCube: gpu.setResolution(width: number, height: number): boolean
L1384[20:13:49] <Caitlyn> both bots pull status info from http://status.mojang.com/check so we can only tell you what the json tells us.
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L1386[20:13:55] <Wobbo> .w setResolution
L1387[20:13:55] <^v> Wobbo, Not found. did you want "serialization"?
L1388[20:14:02] <Wobbo> .w gpu.setResolution
L1389[20:14:03] <^v> Wobbo, gpu.setResolution(width: number, height: number):boolean Sets the specified resolution. Can be up to the maximum supported resolution. If a larger or invalid resolution is provided it will throw an error.
L1390[20:14:29] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92: i'll see it when i switch back to hexchat (buffers from bouncer)
L1391[20:15:15] <ping> http://i.imgur.com/BwgxEpV.png
L1392[20:15:16] <Caitlyn> I can't see it either.. lol
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L1395[20:28:23] <ds84182> http://i.imgur.com/a4FS1pt.gif
L1396[20:28:27] <ds84182> hehe
L1397[20:28:28] <ds84182> hehe
L1398[20:28:52] <ping> ds84182, white people.
L1399[20:28:58] <ds84182> ping, ikr
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L1402[20:35:27] <JoshTheEnder> meh, will attempt to build hexchat another time
L1403[20:35:37] <JoshTheEnder> cba to do dependancies
L1404[20:40:02] <ping> PROLOM TERNING ON THE TING
L1405[20:45:02] <robhol> ds84182: what the feck?
L1406[20:45:35] <ds84182> wat
L1407[20:45:38] <ds84182> oh that
L1408[20:45:40] <ds84182> hehe
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L1414[21:12:10] <Kodos> o/
L1415[21:12:23] <ping> o/
L1416[21:12:24] <Wobbo> Hi Kodos
L1417[21:13:24] <Kodos> Hullo
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L1419[21:16:48] <istasi> what the
L1420[21:16:59] <istasi> bad argument #1 to 'tostring' (value expected)
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L1422[21:17:37] <Wobbo> istasi: What was the call?
L1423[21:17:48] <istasi> error ( tostring (zone.values:__computed ('visibility')) )
L1424[21:17:50] <istasi> the whole line
L1425[21:17:52] <Wobbo> .l tostring()
L1426[21:18:00] <istasi> how can that at the every least not be 'nil' ? Oo
L1427[21:18:14] <Wobbo> istasi: tostring shouldn't even error on nil
L1428[21:18:23] <^v> Wobbo, lua:1: bad argument #1 to 'tostring' (value expected)
L1429[21:18:24] <JoshTheEnder> istasi, try removing the space between tostring and the first (
L1430[21:19:13] <istasi> error(tostring(zone.values:__computed('visibility'))) throws same
L1431[21:19:15] <ping> .l tostring(nil)
L1432[21:19:15] <^v> ping, nil
L1433[21:19:16] <Kilobyte> what does __computed return?
L1434[21:19:26] <istasi> kilo, thats what i wanted to know -.-'
L1435[21:19:38] <ping> .l tostring((function() end)())
L1436[21:19:39] <^v> ping, lua:1: bad argument #1 to 'tostring' (value expected)
L1437[21:19:39] <Kilobyte> looks like it returns nothing
L1438[21:19:47] <istasi> nothing should still be nil
L1439[21:19:49] <ping> yeah, nil~=nothing
L1440[21:19:53] <Kilobyte> not in native lua
L1441[21:20:00] <ping> "native lua"
L1442[21:20:02] <Kilobyte> nil is a value
L1443[21:20:11] <Kilobyte> nothing is no value
L1444[21:20:21] <ping> .l tostring((function() end)(),nil)
L1445[21:20:21] <^v> ping, nil
L1446[21:20:26] <ping> .l tostring((function() end)(),"derp")
L1447[21:20:27] <^v> ping, nil
L1448[21:20:27] <istasi> mmh, yeah
L1449[21:20:45] <ping> using , will force empty function calls to nil
L1450[21:21:35] <Wobbo> print( (function() end)() == nil)
L1451[21:21:45] <Wobbo> .l print( (function() end)() == nil)
L1452[21:21:45] <^v> Wobbo, true | nil
L1453[21:21:54] <ping> where values are expected they are nil
L1454[21:21:59] <istasi> tostring( (function() end) () ) errors out, as it should it turns out
L1455[21:22:07] <istasi> just gotta take my debug to __computed then
L1456[21:23:20] <Kilobyte> turns out i got a bit of caries...
L1457[21:23:26] <Kilobyte> gotta go to dentist monday
L1458[21:23:45] <Kilobyte> a bit scared
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L1463[21:29:30] <skyem123> oops...
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L1465[21:29:57] <skyem123> battery low!
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L1467[21:32:08] <ping> .addfail <alekso56> a new cpu could do 1mhz and still be faster than 1ghz
L1468[21:32:09] <^v> ping, Fail added
L1469[21:32:14] <ping> :P sorry
L1470[21:32:16] <ping> had to be done
L1471[21:32:19] <gamax92> PING
L1472[21:32:23] <alekso56> ping: it's true doe.
L1473[21:32:24] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: Dentists aren't scayr!
L1474[21:32:29] * gamax92 stabs ping
L1475[21:32:49] <asie> Sangar: where can i possibly donate to you in the future?
L1476[21:32:50] <Wobbo> s/yr/ry/
L1477[21:32:50] <Kibibyte> <Wobbo> Kilobyte: Dentists aren't scary!
L1478[21:32:53] <asie> making a list for the purposes of my packs
L1479[21:32:58] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: my teeth are my weak spot
L1480[21:32:59] <ping> alekso56, maby a 31 core ._.
L1481[21:33:05] <ping> but other than that, lolno
L1482[21:33:11] <Kilobyte> if anything happens to them i am über worried
L1483[21:33:15] <ping> not x86 atleast
L1484[21:33:15] <alekso56> if the new cpu did a billion commands in 1mhz...
L1485[21:33:25] <gamax92> .l "ping: y u no respond"
L1486[21:33:25] <^v> gamax92, ping: y u no respond
L1487[21:33:38] <ping> 1mhz is 1,000,000 instructions per second right?
L1488[21:33:51] <Kilobyte> depends on the cpu
L1489[21:33:51] <ping> gamax92, because facu
L1490[21:33:57] <ping> no you arent ignored
L1491[21:33:59] <alekso56> ultracpu TM
L1492[21:33:59] <ping> :P
L1493[21:34:00] <gamax92> ping: do you have ascii85
L1494[21:34:07] <ping> i dont know
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L1496[21:34:54] <ping> the reason we have more cores is because increasing the frequency is harder and harder
L1497[21:35:03] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: The dentist won't hurt you or anything. And you could always ask for local anaesthesia
L1498[21:35:13] <ping> "wont hurt you or anything"
L1499[21:35:15] <ping> lolbullshit
L1500[21:35:42] <ping> my dentists are students and they fuck up sometimes
L1501[21:35:43] <Wobbo> sssh ping :P
L1502[21:35:52] <Sangar> asie, dunno. maaaaaybe. probably not the near future, though.
L1503[21:35:59] <alekso56> Wobbo: well, those kinda drugs don't work on me, even if i inject it directly into my bloodstream .-.
L1504[21:36:03] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: its not the dentist
L1505[21:36:14] <Sangar> it's the costs!
L1506[21:36:17] <Kilobyte> its my teeth
L1507[21:36:21] <alekso56> they do work after 30m tho
L1508[21:36:21] <Sangar> oh, that :P
L1509[21:36:28] <ping> my stomach was fucked up because they failed to inject my gums
L1510[21:36:39] <Wobbo> Well, he will only make your teeth better of right?
L1511[21:36:45] <asie> Sangar: should I donate the money to any charity of choice instead?
L1512[21:36:48] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: drop the dentist
L1513[21:36:58] * alekso56 drops the fish
L1514[21:36:59] <Kilobyte> i am scared it gets worse BEFORE i get to the dentist
L1515[21:37:21] <Sangar> asie, if you'd like, sure. eff seems reasonable.
L1516[21:38:08] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: Just keep brushing properly
L1517[21:38:24] <Kilobyte> i am
L1518[21:38:32] <Kilobyte> probabky more than i need
L1519[21:39:19] <Wobbo> You can never brush your teeth to much
L1520[21:39:32] <Kilobyte> i didn't say too much
L1521[21:39:36] <alekso56> i brushed my teeth away.
L1522[21:39:37] <Kilobyte> only more than i need
L1523[21:40:10] <Wobbo> Unless you have your wishdom tooth removed. That was a weird experience
L1524[21:40:32] <ping> Wobbo, you can brush too much <_>
L1525[21:40:48] <Wobbo> ping: how?
L1526[21:41:06] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: oh yeah, i know that...
L1527[21:41:56] <Wobbo> Some guy with his fingers and a drill in your mouth cracking away parts of your teeth while you can't feel anything…
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L1529[21:49:34] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: It would be posible to write a language in vortex that could be ran on OC computers. That would be easier than using Lua itself
L1530[21:49:49] <Kilobyte> hmm
L1531[21:49:51] <Kilobyte> probably
L1532[21:50:23] <Wobbo> Not a good idea to do that know, since the language is still in 'vortex'
L1533[21:50:56] <asie> Sangar: in other news
L1534[21:51:05] <asie> how's Factorization support coming along?
L1535[21:53:26] <Sangar> asie, should be working in the dev builds, give it a try
L1536[21:53:38] <Sangar> (as should ic2classic)
L1537[21:54:51] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: haven't thought about it too much tbh
L1538[21:55:10] <Wobbo> I kinda like the language so far
L1539[21:55:17] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i should try if windows still boots after ie (aka mshtml.dll) gets uninstalled
L1540[21:55:26] <Wobbo> Haven't played around with it to much, but the match is nice
L1541[21:55:27] <Kilobyte> *deleted
L1542[21:55:40] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yesplz
L1543[21:55:51] <Wobbo> plus it has the most things I like about Lua
L1544[21:56:00] <Kilobyte> Sangar: whats your bet?
L1545[21:56:24] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: Does windows need to parse xml?
L1546[21:56:25] <Sangar> hmm. i'm guessing no, for the lulz.
L1547[21:56:34] <Kilobyte> Sangar: so do i xD
L1548[21:57:10] <Kilobyte> now to think about which windows to use
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L1550[21:57:26] <Kilobyte> i don't know what isos i have laying around
L1551[21:57:30] <Sangar> Kilobyte, an old one, chances are better it'll break :P
L1552[21:57:49] <Kilobyte> i have a win xp install disk somwhere
L1553[21:58:24] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: If it needs to parse XML it will break, since it uses mhtml.dll to parse xml.
L1554[21:58:47] <Kilobyte> fuck
L1555[21:58:52] <Kilobyte> my disk drive is fucked
L1556[21:58:56] * Kilobyte tries to fix
L1557[21:59:06] <skyem123> wha?
L1558[21:59:26] <skyem123> what happened?
L1559[22:00:30] <Kilobyte> fixed
L1560[22:00:45] <skyem123> .ping
L1561[22:00:55] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 9.91s
L1562[22:00:55] <ping> .p
L1563[22:00:56] <^v> Ping reply from ping 0.35s
L1564[22:02:56] <asie> Sangar: I will look into it later, like, tomorrow
L1565[22:03:53] <Sangar> ok
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L1567[22:08:27] <Kilobyte> Sangar: booting install disk
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L1570[22:08:54] <asie> hi
L1571[22:09:05] <Sangar> Kilobyte, lemme get some popcorn
L1572[22:09:09] <Sangar> wb
L1573[22:09:46] <skyem123> Is Kilobyte trying to pull data off an old hard disk?
L1574[22:09:50] <Kilobyte> Sangar: virtual machine on crap hardware... will take a while
L1575[22:09:58] <Kilobyte> skyem123: vitual machine
L1576[22:10:17] <Kilobyte> wanna try if windongs can boot without iexplorer
L1577[22:10:17] <skyem123> oh.
L1578[22:10:29] <skyem123> what version?
L1579[22:10:31] <Kilobyte> xp
L1580[22:10:42] <Kilobyte> because relatively low system requirements
L1581[22:10:54] <skyem123> iexplorer.exe OR all the files behind it?
L1582[22:11:02] <Kilobyte> mainly mshtml.dll
L1583[22:11:07] <Kilobyte> aka iexplorer
L1584[22:11:15] <skyem123> ah...
L1585[22:11:20] <skyem123> hum...
L1586[22:11:24] <skyem123> shold boot.
L1587[22:11:33] <Kilobyte> iexplorer.exe is just a stub that calls mshtml.dll
L1588[22:11:39] <Kilobyte> skyem123: you never know
L1589[22:11:50] <skyem123> explorer.exe will not load.
L1590[22:11:53] <Daiyousei> and BrowseUI.dll
L1591[22:12:06] <Kilobyte> the visual studio compiler needs mshtml.dll
L1592[22:12:30] <skyem123> Windows Xp
L1593[22:12:37] <Daiyousei> actually, it wouldnt boot
L1594[22:12:46] <Daiyousei> i'm pretty sure the kernel will yell "MISSING FILES OMG"
L1595[22:12:46] <skyem123> It will boot, but not be useable
L1596[22:13:15] <Kilobyte> ok, Sangar, me and Daiyousei bet on "won't boot"
L1597[22:13:23] <TabletCube> Use Win9x - IE could be removed then
L1598[22:13:27] <Kilobyte> skyem123 bets on will boot, but be shitty
L1599[22:13:33] <skyem123> yup
L1600[22:13:43] <Kilobyte> "Setup is copying files"
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L1602[22:13:55] <TabletCube> I bet it will boot - but crash or BSOD
L1603[22:14:16] <Kilobyte> once install is done i will clone the disk
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L1605[22:14:26] <Kilobyte> so i got a clean xp install in case i need it
L1606[22:14:31] <Daiyousei> oh look
L1607[22:14:32] <Daiyousei> heavies
L1608[22:14:35] <skyem123> there was a program called XP lite that removed mshtml.dll#
L1609[22:14:35] <Daiyousei> the easiest class in tf2
L1610[22:14:54] <Daiyousei> lol i bet you couldnt do shit
L1611[22:15:02] <Daiyousei> you cant even compile with vc++ without that file
L1612[22:15:18] <skyem123> Windows XP does not use XML.
L1613[22:15:39] <Daiyousei> the vc++ compiler does
L1614[22:15:52] <Kilobyte> i would try on 8 for most up-to-date results, but i cba to set up an EFI in qemu
L1615[22:15:55] <Daiyousei> and windows actually do use a shitload of xml
L1616[22:15:56] <Daiyousei> even windows xp
L1617[22:15:58] <TabletCube> skyem123: prob made sure that the system doesm't break
L1618[22:15:59] <Daiyousei> look into its files
L1619[22:16:21] <Kilobyte> 25% copying files
L1620[22:16:25] <TabletCube> Kilobyte: if it boots, try with vista. Then win7. Then win8
L1621[22:16:35] <Kilobyte> win 8 needs efi
L1622[22:16:41] <TabletCube> MS has VM images of windows fyi
L1623[22:16:42] <skyem123> nope
L1624[22:16:47] <Kilobyte> plus i only got a bit time
L1625[22:16:47] <TabletCube> Public ones too
L1626[22:16:54] <skyem123> It can run off BIOS
L1627[22:16:54] <Kilobyte> TabletCube: for qemu?
L1628[22:16:59] <TabletCube> ...no
L1629[22:17:01] <Kilobyte> see
L1630[22:17:06] <Kilobyte> i use qemu
L1631[22:17:07] <TabletCube> Vbox :(
L1632[22:17:38] <Kilobyte> lol its copying swf files
L1633[22:17:46] <Daiyousei> qemu with kvm ftw
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L1635[22:18:08] <Kilobyte> Daiyousei: yup
L1636[22:18:12] <gamax92> back
L1637[22:18:20] <TabletCube> http://www.litepc.com/xplite.html
L1638[22:18:32] <skyem123> I liked microsoft virtual pc, but then they ruined it...
L1639[22:19:05] <skyem123> (2007 supplimented with 2005 files is the best version)
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L1641[22:20:31] <skyem123> I now like virtualbox
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L1644[22:21:49] <Kilobyte> skyem123: i like libvirt
L1645[22:21:49] <gamax92> Mmm, qemu
L1646[22:21:52] <skyem123> How is the vm going...
L1647[22:21:54] <Kilobyte> using qemu as backend
L1648[22:21:58] <gamax92> I can tell qemu to emulate a 486
L1649[22:22:12] <Kilobyte> qemu supports all kinds of platforms
L1650[22:22:15] <Kilobyte> including ARM
L1651[22:22:21] <Daiyousei> the downside with libvirt is
L1652[22:22:21] <Daiyousei> xml
L1653[22:22:27] <skyem123> I have a lone pentitum mmx cpu somewhere...
L1654[22:22:29] <Kilobyte> 94% copying
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L1656[22:22:54] <skyem123> mshtml.dll? :-o
L1657[22:23:11] <Kilobyte> no
L1658[22:23:14] <Kilobyte> the install files
L1659[22:23:45] <skyem123> Daiyousei> the downside with libvirt is
L1660[22:23:46] <skyem123> <Daiyousei> xml
L1661[22:24:01] <skyem123> I was joking about that.
L1662[22:24:04] <ph1x3r> If you want to run several VMs on a linux platform, look at Proxmox. It is like VMWare ESXi in that it is a complete environment. Uses qemu/kvm running on a Debian base.
L1663[22:24:21] <Kilobyte> ew derpian
L1664[22:24:22] <ph1x3r> web front end for everything
L1665[22:24:42] <gamax92> inb4 Kilobyte's "Arch breaks easily but has great docs"
L1666[22:24:52] <Daiyousei> arch breaks easily?
L1667[22:24:53] <Daiyousei> u wot
L1668[22:25:00] <Kilobyte> easier maybe
L1669[22:25:09] <Kilobyte> unless you got fucked hardware
L1670[22:25:15] * Kilobyte points at Daiyousei
L1671[22:25:21] <Kilobyte> at least libvirt it doesn't use firefox as xml parser
L1672[22:25:22] <Daiyousei> haha yea
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L1674[22:25:39] <ph1x3r> Anyone here remember MCC linux? Or SLS?
L1675[22:25:40] <xavidram> Hello
L1676[22:25:46] <gamax92> nope
L1677[22:25:49] <gamax92> xavidram: Hello
L1678[22:25:52] <Kilobyte> haha
L1679[22:25:58] <Kilobyte> this si starting great
L1680[22:26:00] <skyem123> debian for set and forget, ubuntu server for active server, mint for desktop
L1681[22:26:05] <Kilobyte> i haven't even finished install
L1682[22:26:31] <Kilobyte> and i get an error
L1683[22:26:36] <skyem123> oops
L1684[22:26:47] <skyem123> you can skip on those errors
L1685[22:27:05] <skyem123> it might be disk corruption
L1686[22:28:56] <Kilobyte> or because the disk got ejected
L1687[22:29:47] <xavidram> I have a quick question, I seem to be getting an odd error, when connecting capasitor bank to energy converter then to open computer case.
L1688[22:30:20] <skyem123> Kilobyte: wat.
L1689[22:30:23] <Kilobyte> xavidram: if you were more specific we could probably help you
L1690[22:30:24] <xavidram> which says Unrecoverable Error no bootable medium found: file not found. yet I have the computer case set up correctly
L1691[22:30:35] <Kilobyte> xavidram: insert a OpenOS disk
L1692[22:30:55] <xavidram> I have a teir 3 disk in
L1693[22:31:05] <xavidram> as well as 2 teir 3.5 ram modules
L1694[22:31:07] <Kilobyte> no, floppy
L1695[22:31:08] <xavidram> a teir 3 cpu
L1696[22:31:08] <Kilobyte> :P
L1697[22:31:11] <ph1x3r> Only the floppy has the OS on it initially
L1698[22:31:14] <xavidram> ah
L1699[22:31:15] <Kilobyte> there is a craftable OpenOS floppy
L1700[22:31:16] <xavidram> hmm
L1701[22:31:19] <xavidram> let me see
L1702[22:31:28] <xavidram> never experienced this problem in 1.6.4
L1703[22:31:44] <ph1x3r> Insert a floppy and then boot. Once running, run "install" to copy the OS to an installed HD
L1704[22:31:58] <Kilobyte> "Explore the Web, fast, easy and safe with Internet Explorer" - install screen
L1705[22:32:08] <Kilobyte> HOW CAN ANYTHING ON WINDOWS BE SAFE
L1706[22:32:12] <JoshTheEnder> xavidram, the stuff for 1.7.X and 1.6 are the same
L1707[22:32:13] <skyem123> Blatant lies.
L1708[22:32:26] <Daiyousei> Kilobyte: >saf
L1709[22:32:27] <Daiyousei> e
L1710[22:32:29] <Kilobyte> windows is a single security hole
L1711[22:32:29] <Daiyousei> ahahaha
L1712[22:32:31] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, your credit card is safe
L1713[22:32:32] <xavidram> See the thing is in 1.6.4 I never experienced this problem, yet in 1.7.10 i did
L1714[22:32:38] <JoshTheEnder> in the hands of theives
L1715[22:32:39] <xavidram> and it is the same set up
L1716[22:32:40] <ph1x3r> the floppies are new in teh 1.3 version. I am running 1.6.4
L1717[22:32:46] <Kilobyte> xavidram: its because that changed from 1.2 to 1.3
L1718[22:32:51] <JoshTheEnder> xavidram, same oc version?
L1719[22:32:56] <ph1x3r> Yes
L1720[22:33:02] <xavidram> I beleive so. I could have used an older vserion
L1721[22:33:06] <Kilobyte> "approx. 37 minutes to finish"
L1722[22:33:08] <JoshTheEnder> most probably
L1723[22:33:11] <xavidram> but the floppy disk thing fixed it, thank you all either way.
L1724[22:33:15] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, thats a lie
L1725[22:33:16] <Kilobyte> a linux install is much faster
L1726[22:33:24] <ph1x3r> OC runs on both 1.6.4 and 1.7.x at the same version
L1727[22:33:52] <skyem123> Not when you are installing to an SD card on a netbook from a DVD via USB.
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L1729[22:34:03] <Kilobyte> lol
L1730[22:34:12] <gamax92> Yeah ...
L1731[22:34:15] <JoshTheEnder> well, as of 1.3.2 OC, the 1.6.4 and 1.7.10 builds are the same, 1.7.2 is dropped IIRC
L1732[22:34:18] <Kilobyte> http://www.kilobyte22.de/screenshot/screenshot_2014-08-03_00-33-57.png
L1733[22:34:22] <Kilobyte> some hilarity ^
L1734[22:34:29] <gamax92> considering the only version for 1.7.10 are 1.3 and he apparently hasn't had this issue ...
L1735[22:34:30] <skyem123> And when the cable kept falling out...
L1736[22:34:39] * skyem123 fires up wget
L1737[22:35:07] <JoshTheEnder> ohh, if it's xp then that timer should only be off like by 5 mins or so
L1738[22:35:22] <Kilobyte> JoshTheEnder: lol
L1739[22:35:49] <TabletCube> Kilobyte: what are the standard bets?
L1740[22:35:55] <Kilobyte> i remember being a windows fag
L1741[22:36:03] <TabletCube> \*standing
L1742[22:36:10] <Kilobyte> no changes yet
L1743[22:36:38] <JoshTheEnder> my first linux experience was when one of my dad's friends showed me Puppy Linux
L1744[22:36:41] <skyem123> Technicly, it booted, to the second install stage
L1745[22:36:54] <Kilobyte> my first one was through irc
L1746[22:37:08] <Kilobyte> skyem123: didn't remove IE yet
L1747[22:37:10] <TabletCube> my first linux was me popping in an Ubuntu live cd
L1748[22:37:20] <Kilobyte> TabletCube: pretty much same for me
L1749[22:37:30] <Kilobyte> actually no
L1750[22:37:36] <Kilobyte> sshing to a friends linux
L1751[22:37:40] <TabletCube> From a magazine I bought
L1752[22:37:43] <JoshTheEnder> i didnt really dabble in irc till about janurary last year
L1753[22:38:06] <TabletCube> i've been on IRC a long time. /ns info me
L1754[22:38:20] <JoshTheEnder> not registered
L1755[22:38:21] <skyem123> Bets are: it will boot, but not be good (me). Won't boot (Kilobyte, JoshTheEnder and Daiyousei).
L1756[22:38:21] <Caitlyn> TabletCube is not registered.
L1757[22:38:38] <TabletCube> Use CompanionCube
L1758[22:38:44] <JoshTheEnder> skyem123, hey. i didnt bet nothing
L1759[22:39:13] <TabletCube> Kilobyte: I bet the kernel will boot - but it will crash
L1760[22:39:15] <istasi> someone wanna try, my faily os? http://pastebin.com/frLbki8g note: you can roughly only reboot currently -.-'
L1761[22:39:23] <skyem123> oh.
L1762[22:39:29] <ph1x3r> I started with Linux in 1991/1992 kind of time.
L1763[22:39:30] <Kilobyte> skyem123: it was Sangar
L1764[22:39:34] <skyem123> boot, but fail?
L1765[22:39:38] <skyem123> oh.
L1766[22:39:49] <skyem123> Bets are: it will boot, but not be good (me). Won't boot (Kilobyte, Sangar and Daiyousei).
L1767[22:39:53] <Kilobyte> wtf is this mouse driver smoking
L1768[22:40:20] <JoshTheEnder> input peripheral devices have always been crap in windows
L1769[22:40:23] <TabletCube> istasi: congrats on implementing PXE / netbooting :p
L1770[22:40:26] <skyem123> ...
L1771[22:40:59] <istasi> it always downloads the files currenly, havn't bothered doing check on modified date yet, since well
L1772[22:41:18] <Wobbo> skyem123: do you know if Windows needs to parse xml files?
L1773[22:41:37] <skyem123> Don't think the kernel does.
L1774[22:41:43] <Kilobyte> JoshTheEnder: my mouse is jumping all over the place
L1775[22:41:45] <istasi> TabletCube: you can drag the bar though, to the bottom -.-', and up again
L1776[22:42:02] <Wobbo> The I bet it will boot, but that it will stop working shortely after that
L1777[22:42:14] <skyem123> Don't think xp does.
L1778[22:42:34] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, what service pack does that disk have?
L1779[22:42:41] <Kilobyte> probably none
L1780[22:42:42] <skyem123> I said that it would boot, but be horrid.
L1781[22:42:54] <Kilobyte> i define boot as in: i can log into desktop
L1782[22:43:01] <Kilobyte> nothing more, nothing less
L1783[22:43:17] <Daiyousei> Kilobyte: i've seen many xml files in the windows dirs
L1784[22:43:19] <Daiyousei> many.
L1785[22:43:20] <TabletCube> I define boot as you can reach the logon screen
L1786[22:43:21] <JoshTheEnder> i think you'll be able to login, but not much will happen after that
L1787[22:43:32] <skyem123> I define boot as: get to login screen
L1788[22:43:38] <skyem123> or other indication of booting.
L1789[22:43:43] *** vifino|off is now known as vifino
L1790[22:43:43] <Kilobyte> thats too easy :P
L1791[22:43:45] *** vifino is now known as vifino|bed
L1792[22:44:00] <Kilobyte> windows claims to be stable, so it should take that without issue
L1793[22:44:10] <skyem123> you may have to press ctrl + alt + del if the login screen fails to load.
L1794[22:44:27] <skyem123> s/if/twice if
L1795[22:44:27] <Kibibyte> <skyem123> you may have to press ctrl + alt + del twice if the login screen fails to load.
L1796[22:44:28] <Daiyousei> Keyboard not found: press F1 to continue
L1797[22:44:42] <Kilobyte> 25 minutes
L1798[22:44:43] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, it's stable unless you have a wifi kard that uses an atheros driver
L1799[22:44:49] <JoshTheEnder> bluescreen galore
L1800[22:45:05] <gamax92> I use XP every day
L1801[22:45:07] <Kilobyte> > windows
L1802[22:45:10] <Kilobyte> > stable
L1803[22:45:13] <Kilobyte> are you joking?
L1804[22:45:18] <skyem123> Daiyousei: thats so you can plug in the keyboard and then press F1
L1805[22:45:23] <gamax92> Kilobyte: for what I use it for, it is very stable
L1806[22:45:25] <Daiyousei> still makes no sense
L1807[22:45:29] <JoshTheEnder> well, it's stable enough for me to play games
L1808[22:45:48] <TabletCube> My Vista is very stable. But I don't use many MS apps
L1809[22:45:58] <Kilobyte> vista is one of the worst
L1810[22:45:58] <Daiyousei> VISTA? STABLE?
L1811[22:46:00] <JoshTheEnder> vista is shit.
L1812[22:46:00] <Daiyousei> U WOT
L1813[22:46:09] <Daiyousei> *goes away from pc with vista* *comes back* *bsod*
L1814[22:46:13] <gamax92> *in this channel, bandwagon*
L1815[22:46:26] * Sangar hasn't had a bluescreen in years >_>
L1816[22:46:34] <JoshTheEnder> vista is the reason XP's support only just ended this april
L1817[22:46:50] <TabletCube> Daiyousei: mine does BSOD if i close chrome leaving 9001 tabs open
L1818[22:46:54] <skyem123> actually, vista is the same as windows 7, except it has a worse userland.
L1819[22:47:05] <Daiyousei> TabletCube: and my old vista install bsods randomly
L1820[22:47:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: lol, i had many until i went to linux
L1821[22:47:24] <Sangar> Kilobyte, was that before or after win7? :P
L1822[22:47:31] <Kilobyte> after
L1823[22:47:36] <Kilobyte> well
L1824[22:47:38] <JoshTheEnder> skyem123, no, i've ran both on my pc. 7 still stayed as fast after updates while vista became shit slow
L1825[22:47:39] <Kilobyte> before 8
L1826[22:47:40] <skyem123> mine bsods if i keep on clicking on a program that won't load.
L1827[22:47:45] <skyem123> windows 8 bsod
L1828[22:47:49] <Sangar> well. must be your hardware then :P
L1829[22:48:02] <Kilobyte> no
L1830[22:48:04] <Kilobyte> the drivers
L1831[22:48:20] <Kilobyte> if it was my harware, i would have gotten quite a few panics too
L1832[22:48:20] <Wobbo> No drivers anymore! :D
L1833[22:48:31] <JoshTheEnder> i know most of the freezes i have on windows are due to hardware, since they also happen on linux from time to time
L1834[22:48:32] <skyem123> userland is slow
L1835[22:49:10] <skyem123> MS-DOS!
L1836[22:49:22] <JoshTheEnder> i think it's either the wifi card or the ram, since those are the only 2 areas that havent been changed in the time i've had this stuff
L1837[22:49:42] <Kilobyte> its now at 19 mins
L1838[22:49:43] <TabletCube> skyem123: CP/M
L1839[22:49:44] <Kilobyte> for 3 mins
L1840[22:49:49] <JoshTheEnder> everything else has been more or less upgraded /changed
L1841[22:50:10] <skyem123> :D
L1842[22:50:26] <Sangar> Kilobyte, at least you won't have to wait for another 5h for windows updates, since it's post-service :>
L1843[22:50:29] <Kilobyte> i am still scared because tooth
L1844[22:50:42] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i don't have a network card configured anyways
L1845[22:50:46] <Wobbo> Just keep brushing :P
L1846[22:50:52] <Sangar> Kilobyte, scaredy-cat :P
L1847[22:51:01] <Kilobyte> 16 mins
L1848[22:51:29] <Kilobyte> Sangar: http://www.kilobyte22.de/screenshot/screenshot_2014-08-03_00-33-57.png some laughing stuff
L1849[22:52:31] <Sangar> Kilobyte, just pretend they forgot about the internet when they wrote that and it's fiiiiine :P
L1850[22:53:06] <skyem123> :d
L1851[22:53:11] <skyem123> :d
L1852[22:53:14] <skyem123> :D
L1853[22:54:09] <gamax92> http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/35569/tweetable-mathematical-art
L1854[22:54:39] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: Do you have your language settings on German? D:
L1855[22:54:47] <skyem123> uh...
L1856[22:54:50] <Kilobyte> on my arch? yes
L1857[22:55:09] <Wobbo> Y U no english?
L1858[22:55:24] <JoshTheEnder> because he no english?
L1859[22:55:41] <Wobbo> My MacBook is English
L1860[22:55:44] <Kilobyte> because i can
L1861[22:55:57] <gamax92> Y no english? because japanese
L1862[22:55:58] <Sangar> gamax92, those are pretty cool
L1863[22:56:03] <gamax92> Sangar: agreed
L1864[22:56:13] <skyem123> I'm tempted to change my language on my pc to somthing random to see if I can still use it.
L1865[22:56:53] <Wobbo> Actually, my macbook is english now. First it was a mixture of Dutch and English. English in the GUI and Dutch in the command line.
L1866[22:57:00] <Wobbo> Because I fucked up my locale settings
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L1868[22:57:15] <skyem123> ?
L1869[22:57:16] <Sangar> my laptop is still chinese :/
L1870[22:57:24] <skyem123> .ping
L1871[22:57:31] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 7.31s
L1872[22:57:31] <Wobbo> Sangar: How so? XD
L1873[22:57:35] <Wobbo> .p
L1874[22:57:35] <^v> Ping reply from Wobbo 0.2s
L1875[22:57:37] <ping> >_>
L1876[22:57:37] <skyem123> wat?
L1877[22:57:38] <ph1x3r> I tried to use a windoze computer in Poland a few months ago and gave up. Moscow was even worse! :(
L1878[22:57:41] <Kilobyte> Sangar: wtf
L1879[22:57:58] <Sangar> Wobbo, switched to old-releases mirror for mint bc cba to upgrade, updated, locale was chinese for some reason :/
L1880[22:58:03] <ds84182> answered my first codegolf ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^) http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/35647/30098
L1881[22:58:47] <skyem123> ph1x3r: why>
L1882[22:59:16] <Wobbo> ds84182: why dod you write a oneliner D:
L1883[22:59:16] <gamax92> ds84182: ohai user3598170
L1884[22:59:30] * skyem123 fits ds84182 into a tweet.
L1885[22:59:40] <ds84182> Wobbo, because thats how you codegolf
L1886[22:59:57] <Wobbo> ds84182: don't you start with working code and then clean it up?
L1887[23:00:34] <skyem123> BONG.
L1888[23:00:34] <skyem123> BBC Radio 4 has big ben sound at midnight
L1889[23:00:38] <ds84182> Wobbo, because I started working with code and then I made it more compressed
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L1892[23:01:21] <ph1x3r> skyem123: because I don't read Cyrilic or Polish.
L1893[23:03:03] <skyem123> I'm know what the icons do.
L1894[23:03:08] <skyem123> ^^
L1895[23:03:57] <skyem123> (Icons, not the language.)
L1896[23:05:14] <Wobbo> I'm going. Tell me about the experiment tomorrow
L1897[23:05:16] <Wobbo> Bye!
L1898[23:05:42] <skyem123> nooooooooo
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L1900[23:09:20] <Kilobyte> i should learn golfscript
L1901[23:09:48] <skyem123> ?
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L1903[23:10:05] <TabletCube> What i miss
L1904[23:10:43] <gamax92> hmm i can theoretically reduce the 6 bytes to 4
L1905[23:10:54] <gamax92> which would give a nice speed up
L1906[23:11:03] <skyem123> how is xp going?
L1907[23:12:14] <gamax92> and the multiplier can be changed from 3 bytes to 2
L1908[23:13:13] <skyem123> what is golf script?
L1909[23:13:28] <gamax92> a script for the golf language
L1910[23:13:31] <TabletCube> skyem123: very concise language
L1911[23:13:44] <TabletCube> designed for codegolf
L1912[23:14:50] <skyem123> Kilobyte: How is golf script going?
L1913[23:15:17] <skyem123> s/golf script/windows xp
L1914[23:15:17] <Kibibyte> <skyem123> Kilobyte: How is windows xp going?
L1915[23:15:49] <Kilobyte> lemme clone the drive
L1916[23:16:18] <ping> what the fuck
L1917[23:16:19] <ping> http://youtu.be/exbuSMw6SAk
L1918[23:16:19] -Kibibyte- [ping] GabeN is Love, GabeN is Life | by jtcpingas | 1m44s | 3w6d ago | 2,907 views | Rated: 4.86/5.00
L1919[23:16:27] <gamax92> Turd
L1920[23:16:28] <gamax92> Duck
L1921[23:16:29] <gamax92> N
L1922[23:16:35] <skyem123> .ping
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L1924[23:16:46] <TabletCube> Pong
L1925[23:16:48] <^v> Ping reply from skyem123 12.84s
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L1927[23:17:12] <gamax92> actually doing this function will be easier since i can just input a number and skip the collection part
L1928[23:17:21] <skyem123> ooh...
L1929[23:17:21] <skyem123> ^^
L1930[23:17:37] <Kilobyte> copying 8.1 GiB of data
L1931[23:17:39] <Kilobyte> real 0m1.087s
L1932[23:17:43] <Kilobyte> (including a sudo)
L1933[23:17:43] <TabletCube> gamax92: what you doing?
L1934[23:18:03] <Kilobyte> no, i don'T have an SSD
L1935[23:18:19] <Kilobyte> i'll sleep in 12 min
L1936[23:18:22] <gamax92> TabletCube: make 3 bytes into 4 7bit safe bytes
L1937[23:18:42] <gamax92> instead of what I'm doing now, which makes 3 bytes into 6 7bit safe bytes
L1938[23:19:20] <TabletCube> Kilobyte: mshtml-less xp = fun
L1939[23:20:08] <gamax92> Kilobyte: oh ... thats like only 1GB then
L1940[23:20:13] <gamax92> so ... not impressed
L1941[23:20:27] <Kilobyte> gamax92: wot?
L1942[23:20:33] <gamax92> you said GiB
L1943[23:21:00] <ping> *ibytes masterrace
L1944[23:21:30] <gamax92> oh I'm a derp
L1945[23:21:34] <gamax92> Kilobyte: nvm what I said
L1946[23:21:38] <TabletCube> But mebibytes sounds stupit
L1947[23:21:52] <gamax92> wouldn't it be mibibytes?
L1948[23:21:53] <skyem123> you should send the compiler requiring mshtml to toastytech (a website), he hates internet explorer and would probably freak out.
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L1950[23:24:11] <skyem123> gibibytes
L1951[23:24:19] <skyem123> 1000 bytes
L1952[23:24:33] <ping> no, gi is on a scale of one million
L1953[23:24:43] <gamax92> uwot
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L1957[23:25:52] <Kilobyte> so, mshtml.dll is removed
L1958[23:26:08] <skyem123> does it boot?
L1959[23:26:09] <ping> Kilobyte, isnt that mingw?
L1960[23:26:16] <ping> oh wait
L1961[23:26:18] <ping> thats IE
L1962[23:26:20] <ping> lol
L1963[23:26:21] <Kilobyte> skyem123: i am booting atm
L1964[23:26:33] <skyem123> my battery is low
L1965[23:26:56] <skyem123> gibibytes: 1000 mibibytes
L1966[23:27:20] <gamax92> skyem123: no
L1967[23:27:20] <Kilobyte> something is broken
L1968[23:27:32] <Kilobyte> internet explorer still works
L1969[23:27:35] <TabletCube> Kilobyte: what .exe?
L1970[23:27:38] <Kilobyte> so does everything else
L1971[23:27:42] <skyem123> uhm...
L1972[23:27:43] <Kilobyte> TabletCube: mshtml.dll
L1973[23:28:03] <skyem123> it may have recovered the file
L1974[23:28:06] <TabletCube> Check WFP didn't restore it
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L1977[23:28:29] <Kilobyte> meh, its bed time
L1978[23:28:37] <Kilobyte> gotta get up early tomorrow
L1979[23:29:01] <JoshTheEnder> same except the getting up early part
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L1981[23:30:22] <Sangar> don't have to get up early either, but i'm really, really tired, so i'll be going, too
L1982[23:30:25] <Sangar> gnight o/
L1983[23:30:49] <Kilobyte> night
L1984[23:31:07] <Kilobyte> I feel really shitty
L1985[23:31:26] <TabletCube> JoshTheEnder: does your DNS impl actually work?
L1986[23:31:36] <JoshTheEnder> ?
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L1988[23:34:42] <Kilobyte> im curious, what weak spots do other ppl have? for me it's definitely my teeth
L1989[23:35:09] <Kilobyte> if anything happens to them I go into panic mode
L1990[23:36:00] <TabletCube> nvm
L1991[23:36:55] <JoshTheEnder> if your talking about the dnsd on OpenPrg, then no. i keep forgetting to work on it
L1992[23:37:57] <TabletCube> me and a friend are planning to write our own
L1993[23:38:59] <TabletCube> If you want i can link you to stuffs we designed?
L1994[23:39:15] <JoshTheEnder> sure
L1995[23:40:37] <TabletCube> http://piratepad.net/AbKoU5oo36
L1996[23:40:54] <Kilobyte> btw, you can also give a readonly link
L1997[23:41:08] <Kilobyte> so trolls don't fuck it up
L1998[23:41:24] <TabletCube> I saved a revision already
L1999[23:44:32] <Kilobyte> reminds me of when I trolled on an etherpad
L2000[23:50:36] <Kilobyte> TabletCube: when registering you should include a field for the entry type
L2001[23:50:53] <TabletCube> ....good point
L2002[23:50:55] <Kilobyte> also take into account that one host can have multiple ips
L2003[23:51:24] <Kilobyte> s/account/host
L2004[23:51:25] <Kibibyte> <Kilobyte> also take into host that one host can have multiple ips
L2005[23:51:37] <TabletCube> Make a note of it
L2006[23:51:51] <Kilobyte> a pain on phone
L2007[23:51:56] <TabletCube> Tablet sucks for this
L2008[23:52:11] <Kilobyte> tablet is better than phone
L2009[23:52:12] <TabletCube> i'll use memoserv then
L2010[23:53:24] <TabletCube> Kilobyte: should I rewrite into something more formal like the openposiz\
L2011[23:53:51] <Kilobyte> put it on a markdown gist?
L2012[23:54:04] <Kilobyte> and rewrite it in turn
L2013[23:54:34] <Kilobyte> markdown is easy and powerful
L2014[23:55:19] <TabletCube> JoshTheEnder: comments?\
L2015[23:55:39] <ds84182> holy shit
L2016[23:55:41] <ds84182> dammit wifi
L2017[23:56:07] <ds84182> It took almost 40 minutes to reconnect to the network
L2018[23:56:19] <Kilobyte> wow
L2019[23:56:40] <Kilobyte> that's a lot
L2020[23:56:49] *** vifino|bed is now known as vifino|off
L2021[23:57:45] <TabletCube> in the rewrite should I follow RFC 2119?
L2022[23:57:55] <Kilobyte> ?
L2023[23:58:30] <Kilobyte> do you expect me to know all rfc numbers off my head?
L2024[23:59:16] <Kilobyte> TabletCube: ^
L2025[23:59:17] <TabletCube> You mentioned it in the openposix spec iirc
L2026[23:59:50] <Kilobyte> oh that one paragraph about keywords?
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