OCLogs: 2014-07-26.log

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L25[00:33:09] <Kodos> \o/

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L45[01:45:04] <SKS-AFK> o/ Morning

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L76[04:08:08] <ds84182> Ha ha, LOL

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L84[04:29:05] <Vexatos> o/

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L98[05:49:21] <istasi> Morning

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L100[05:58:12] <Vexatos> Morning

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L104[06:12:42] <istasi> did you find that missing line?

L105[06:12:48] <istasi> so i can test shit? :P

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L107[06:31:15] <gamax92> hey Vexatos

L108[06:31:23] <gamax92> http://i.imgur.com/jZviYU0.png

L109[06:31:29] <Vexatos> istasi: Nope

L110[06:31:36] <Vexatos> I can't get it to work

L111[06:31:42] <Vexatos> Because I have no idea what I am missing

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L113[06:33:02] <gamax92> Vexatos?

L114[06:33:11] <Vexatos> ?

L115[06:33:14] <gamax92> http://i.imgur.com/jZviYU0.png <-

L116[06:33:22] <Vexatos> So what?

L117[06:33:28] <gamax92> well fine fuck you too

L118[06:33:37] <Vexatos> I have no idea what I am looking at.

L119[06:37:04] * istasi giggles

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L121[06:37:48] <istasi> what is that though gamax?

L122[06:38:02] <istasi> f3'ish mod?

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L125[06:39:57] <istasi> or!

L126[06:40:01] <istasi> did you build that grid?

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L130[06:47:36] <istasi> http://i.imgur.com/m28jeeC.gif -.-'''

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L132[06:57:13] <istasi> bbl

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L136[07:26:00] <robhol> Sangar: I'm still not really clear on how the architecture thing works: would it be possible to have a computer run both Lua and a different language?

L137[07:30:31] <asie> robhol: no

L138[07:30:34] <asie> one architecture per computer

L139[07:30:53] <robhol> eh.. that sucks

L140[07:31:11] <Kilobyte> I think I know how I'll design my parser generator

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L142[07:50:42] <justastranger> okay, I think I might need some javascript help ._.

L143[07:51:32] <Vexatos> And I think I need some java help xD

L144[07:52:00] <justastranger> Vexatos: I'm trying to do something, and I can't figure out for the life of my why it's not doing as it's supposed to

L145[07:52:10] <Vexatos> Same here

L146[07:52:21] <justastranger> I'm trying to dynamically generate links on a page

L147[07:52:38] <justastranger> As a userscript, the javascript fails miserably

L148[07:52:48] <justastranger> but if I try to execute it from the console

L149[07:52:50] <justastranger> it works perfectly

L150[07:53:01] <justastranger> and it's extremely vexing

L151[07:54:10] <justastranger> I'm grabbing a few things from the page and using them to construct the link

L152[07:54:24] <justastranger> and I'm using a for loop for this.

L153[07:54:36] <justastranger> The first variable that I use only ever grabs one thing

L154[07:54:46] <justastranger> and it should be grabbing 3 things

L155[07:54:57] <justastranger> the second variable grabs the 3 things

L156[07:55:03] <justastranger> but just not the first one

L157[07:56:32] <justastranger> And no matter what debug code I add, it always seems to show that the first variable SHOULD be grabbing the 3 things that it should be grabbing

L158[07:57:08] <justastranger> if I add a console.log(var1), it logs the 3 things I wanted, but the link I construct only ever has the last one as part of it, and all of this is contained in the same for loop.

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L170[08:59:53] <PsychokenesisKat> Epileptic Plot Trees

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L174[09:17:56] <justastranger> PsychokenesisKat: no TVTropes for you

L175[09:18:18] <PsychokenesisKat> :o You even got it!

L176[09:18:34] <PsychokenesisKat> Now, can you name what I'm reading by knowing that that is a chapter name?

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L178[09:31:04] <justastranger> Lost?

L179[09:31:24] <Kilobyte> oh guess what, i lost the game

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L181[09:33:08] <skyem123> I installed linux onto an SD card in a netbook from a DVD via USB

L182[09:33:17] <skyem123> finally.

L183[09:36:10] <skyem123> It took around 2 hours

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L185[09:52:38] <PsychokenesisKat> justastranger: Not Lost. Though, one of the characters is lost. And there are two of said character.

L186[09:52:56] * justastranger doesn't really care

L187[09:56:53] <PsychokenesisKat> Fair enough.

L188[09:56:58] * PsychokenesisKat returns to reading

L189[10:00:50] <Sangar> o/

L190[10:01:29] <Vexatos> Hey Sangar

L191[10:01:35] <Vexatos> My problem successfully inverted!

L192[10:02:21] <Sangar> Vexatos, fun times!

L193[10:02:39] <Vexatos> Now when I bind an elevator control to an elevator, I cannot do anything with it, however the floor is registered properly and the elevator can be called to that new floor via every other control. Once I reload the world, I can use that new control

L194[10:02:47] <Vexatos> This thing is trolling me

L195[10:03:10] <Sangar> robhol, atm, yes, but if you look at github issue 393 you'll see i'm planning to make it possible to make the arch selectable via the cpu ;)

L196[10:04:03] <Sangar> Vexatos, huh. did you remove any old code?

L197[10:04:14] <Vexatos> Nope

L198[10:04:56] <robhol> I suppose compilation would be possible the way it is. Making a simplified "general" architecture that things can then be compiled down to. Or just interpreting things. Sounds like a bit more work than is reasonable, though

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L200[10:07:51] <Vexatos> I am sure I just forgot one line somewhere, since it works perfectly after I reloaded the world..... This is so frustrating :(

L201[10:08:36] <PsychokenesisKat> Make it reload like it does when the world is reloaded?

L202[10:08:52] <skyem123> you were saying that yesterday...

L203[10:08:57] <Vexatos> I was indeed

L204[10:09:07] <Vexatos> Gues how long I've been sitting in front of this issue

L205[10:09:10] <Vexatos> *guess

L206[10:09:28] <skyem123> Are you talking about a Minecraft mod?

L207[10:09:32] <Vexatos> Yes

L208[10:09:45] <skyem123> Log everything to chat.

L209[10:10:44] * PsychokenesisKat wouldn't reccomend this channel for logging

L210[10:10:55] <Vexatos> Me neither

L211[10:11:08] <skyem123> :D I mean minecraft chat.

L212[10:11:12] <skyem123> :-p

L213[10:11:16] <PsychokenesisKat> #ocbots ?

L214[10:11:20] <Vexatos> #ocspam

L215[10:11:29] <skyem123> heh

L216[10:11:41] <PsychokenesisKat> #ocspam .

L217[10:12:31] <skyem123> that would be funny

L218[10:13:19] <skyem123> But I don't think it would be allowed by EsperNet rules

L219[10:13:42] <Vexatos> Yup, just tested once again

L220[10:13:49] <Vexatos> No issue AFTER reloading the world

L221[10:13:58] <skyem123> memory leak?

L222[10:14:06] * skyem123 wasn't serios

L223[10:14:09] <Vexatos> And I have no idea what I am doing on world reload that I am not doing on binding the control

L224[10:14:15] <PsychokenesisKat> Make it reload the setup after modification..?

L225[10:14:35] <Vexatos> I could replace the TileEntity, I guess

L226[10:14:42] <Vexatos> But I doubt that that would be efficient

L227[10:14:43] <Sangar> Vexatos, presumably something that gets assigned in readFromNBT that isn't otherwise?

L228[10:14:44] <Vexatos> in any way

L229[10:14:50] <Vexatos> Sangar: Let me check

L230[10:15:15] <Vexatos> readFromNBT assigns the following

L231[10:15:26] <Vexatos> metadata of the block

L232[10:15:30] <Vexatos> ID of the block

L233[10:15:36] <Vexatos> the side it's rotated to

L234[10:15:42] <Vexatos> the floor it represents

L235[10:15:49] <Vexatos> the ID of the lift it's assigned to

L236[10:15:59] <robhol> Sangar: I wish you could run several "languages" on the same computer, though. Otherwise, support for several language will be more problematic than beneficial

L237[10:16:05] <Vexatos> and the Vector3 instance

L238[10:16:09] <robhol> s*

L239[10:16:16] <Vexatos> Only floor and liftID should matter

L240[10:16:28] <Sangar> robhol, you mean 'at the same time'?

L241[10:16:41] <Vexatos> /mewants Java

L242[10:16:43] <robhol> yes. Possibly even "communicating"

L243[10:16:43] <Vexatos> :P

L244[10:16:56] <Vexatos> robhol: Good luck implementing THAT

L245[10:16:58] <robhol> of course, just Lua works just as well

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L247[10:17:27] * skyem123 wants python

L248[10:17:44] <Sangar> that would require a lot more (real) resources tho :P but hey, you can always write an os that virtually runs on a cluster of other computers that provide the runtime env for the actual programs >_>

L249[10:17:50] <Sangar> (i'd actually love to see such an os)

L250[10:17:56] <robhol> the problem comes when someone makes an arch for randomLanguage and it fragments the community which... isn't overwhelming as it is

L251[10:18:05] * skyem123 wants Z80

L252[10:18:20] * skyem123 wants 8086

L253[10:18:41] <robhol> for example, someone makes awesomeProg.py and people who want to run it will need to choose between that and every existing lua script :p

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L255[10:19:00] <Sangar> hmm, i dunno.

L256[10:19:01] <Vexatos> Sangar: EatAlltheResourcesOS

L257[10:19:13] <Sangar> i was more thinking it'd provide something for people that can't into lua :P

L258[10:19:21] <Vexatos> Javascript :3

L259[10:19:33] <robhol> but... lua is simple

L260[10:19:39] <Vexatos> Lua is awesome

L261[10:19:42] <robhol> if you can't into lua, wtf are you even doing

L262[10:19:44] <Sangar> robhol, not a valid argument :P

L263[10:20:05] <skyem123> how about a function that switches the CPU mode temporarily? computer.cpu.run("python", data)

L264[10:20:20] <Vexatos> Who needs py

L265[10:20:21] <Vexatos> xD

L266[10:20:34] * skyem123 likes python

L267[10:20:43] <robhol> python is nice, but that isn't the point :p

L268[10:20:53] <Vexatos> <robhol> the problem comes when someone makes an arch for randomLanguage and it fragments the community which...

L269[10:20:57] <Vexatos> ^ valid argument

L270[10:20:59] <Sangar> most langs will probably be addons anyway (even if i were to have a go at one), so it'd mostly be a "you can if you want" kind of thing. because i'd like to keep the 'resource control' that the native lua impl has.

L271[10:21:36] <Sangar> and most languages can't be memory-controlled afaik

L272[10:21:47] <Sangar> i.e. java implementations of js/ruby/whathaveyou

L273[10:21:59] <robhol> fuck it, let's implement x86 *hides*

L274[10:22:05] <Sangar> :D

L275[10:22:58] <justastranger> lol

L276[10:23:05] <Sangar> while that would be awesome, that would be a *real* pain with the arch api, as you probably realize :P (translate Map<?,?> to binary for an interrupt? yeah, have fun with that)

L277[10:23:07] <robhol> Actually, is there something that's "generally" available as a compilation target? x86 isn't a good fit, but there are simpler sets

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L279[10:23:25] <Vexatos> I want java in Lua so we can have minecraft running OpenComputers inside opencomputers inside minecraft

L280[10:23:37] <robhol> this is WAY out of my meager field of expertise, though :3

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L284[10:25:02] <Sangar> robhol, well, you can try to compile to lua >_> i haven't tried it, but from what i understand http://cluecc.sourceforge.net/ can compile c to lua, actually :P

L285[10:25:22] <skyem123> ugh... mobile internet on train is bad.

L286[10:25:24] <robhol> Yeah, I stumbled across that while looking for other things that compile to lua

L287[10:25:37] <skyem123> what were you saying in the last 3 mins?

L288[10:25:53] <Vexatos> Wait, a C compiler inside lua

L289[10:25:59] <Vexatos> which is being compiled into C

L290[10:26:09] <robhol> no, a C to lua compiler

L291[10:26:14] <Vexatos> D:

L292[10:26:14] <Vexatos> D:

L293[10:26:42] <robhol> it's intriguing, especially bearing in mind how profoundly useless it is *hides*

L294[10:26:48] <skyem123> is it self hosting?

L295[10:27:43] * skyem123 points to opencomputers and computercraft

L296[10:27:44] <skyem123> nope

L297[10:27:57] <Vexatos> Well

L298[10:28:04] <Vexatos> back to freaking out about code

L299[10:28:14] <Vexatos> :(

L300[10:28:48] <skyem123> log everything!

L301[10:29:03] <Vexatos> There is nothing to log

L302[10:29:23] <Vexatos> I just need to find the thing that's assigned on world load and not on binding

L303[10:29:27] <Vexatos> But there is none D.<

L304[10:29:58] <skyem123> can't you log the data in the tile entity?

L305[10:30:11] <Vexatos> I most likely can

L306[10:30:15] <Vexatos> Mhm

L307[10:30:23] <skyem123> try it!

L308[10:31:57] <skyem123> Linux seems to run well on an SD card.

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L310[10:37:45] <Vexatos> Let's print all the data

L311[10:38:59] <skyem123> are you running it?

L312[10:40:06] <Vexatos> Yes

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L314[10:43:46] <skyem123> did the logs help?

L315[10:47:04] <Vexatos> Not yet

L316[10:49:33] <skyem123> aww...

L317[10:49:56] <skyem123> log more things!

L318[10:51:27] <asie> my pack

L319[10:51:28] <asie> it is happening

L320[10:53:23] <dangranos> hello

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L324[11:03:02] <skyem123> Goodbye!

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L331[11:23:24] * JoshTheEnder makes weird noises

L332[11:23:27] <JoshTheEnder> morning

L333[11:23:34] <JoshTheEnder> well, afternoon

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L335[11:27:26] <Vexatos> OH MY F&%$§%ING GOD

L336[11:27:31] <Vexatos> SANGAR I FIXED CRAP

L337[11:27:34] <Vexatos> I AM SO STUPID

L338[11:27:36] <Vexatos> AAAARGH

L339[11:27:54] <JoshTheEnder> CAPSLOCK RAGE

L340[11:27:55] <Sangar> $tip Vexatos 123

L341[11:27:55] <^vDoge> Sangar, Sent Ɖ123 to Vexatos

L342[11:28:01] <Vexatos> (Guess what, I just tested with a new elevator (i.e. built a new one)

L343[11:28:08] <Vexatos> piaueotosiughliaueghsotighjslithb

L344[11:28:11] <Vexatos> There was no issue

L345[11:28:17] <Sangar> hey Josh

L346[11:28:17] <Vexatos> I just tested with old elevators

L347[11:28:22] <Vexatos> AARGH

L348[11:28:22] <Sangar> aaand?

L349[11:28:25] <Sangar> ah

L350[11:28:26] <Sangar> hah

L351[11:28:27] <Sangar> gj

L352[11:28:28] <Sangar> :P

L353[11:28:31] <Vexatos> Btw, I re-added the TE to the rails

L354[11:28:38] <Vexatos> But I made the control have a different TE

L355[11:28:41] <JoshTheEnder> hello Sangar

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L357[11:28:42] <Vexatos> extending the common one

L358[11:28:45] <Sangar> makes sense

L359[11:28:50] <Vexatos> And that class contains only OC stuff

L360[11:28:59] <Vexatos> Works perfectly

L361[11:29:03] <Vexatos> istasi: You here?

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L369[11:39:36] <Kilobyte> Sangar: o/

L370[11:39:48] <Sangar> \o

L371[11:41:50] <vifino> o/ Sangar

L372[11:41:56] <Vexatos> Btw, Sangar: I love unifont for OC

L373[11:41:58] <Kilobyte> Sangar: can robots push blocks/ppl like pistons can?

L374[11:42:02] <Vexatos> It looks so much better than the old font

L375[11:42:14] <Kilobyte> lol 3 pings in 8 secs

L376[11:42:17] <Kilobyte> poor Sangar^

L377[11:42:17] <Sangar> Kilobyte, nope

L378[11:42:21] <Kilobyte> :<

L379[11:42:30] <Sangar> Vexatos, i agree, tho that's very subjective :P

L380[11:42:37] <Vexatos> Noone cares

L381[11:42:40] <Sangar> Kilobyte, make a piston upgrade!

L382[11:42:41] <Vexatos> Mods are always subjective

L383[11:42:52] <Kilobyte> Sangar: might do that

L384[11:42:57] <Vexatos> a) You like mod b) You no like mod

L385[11:43:12] <Sangar> Vexatos, true, i suppose :P

L386[11:43:44] <Vexatos> Oh and c) Noone likes mod, but mod author does

L387[11:43:58] <Kilobyte> mod.force :like if you.is_a? Direwolf20

L388[11:44:32] <Kilobyte> thats ruby btw, was too lazy to use scala for this

L389[11:44:33] <Vexatos> Oh right, and d) direwolf20 would like a feature in your mod, so you add it and make your mod completely stupid

L390[11:44:37] <Vexatos> *cough Extra Utilities*

L391[11:45:02] <Vexatos> Anyways

L392[11:45:06] <Sangar> what feature? (sorry, i don't follow dw20 >_>)

L393[11:45:13] <Kilobyte> i don't either

L394[11:45:26] <Vexatos> Time to build Thut's concrete

L395[11:45:35] <Vexatos> Now with 85% more fixed OC support

L396[11:45:53] <Sangar> oh, you give percentages? i'm always too scared for that :P

L397[11:45:55] <Kilobyte> Sangar: maybe later i get the fork up and running

L398[11:46:03] <Sangar> Kilobyte, ok, cool.

L399[11:46:25] <vifino> Kilobyte: "Bacon"

L400[11:46:28] <vifino> Explain.

L401[11:46:32] <Kilobyte> wot

L402[11:46:38] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how to best merge the 1.6 changes to 1.7

L403[11:46:49] <vifino> Bacon account -> "Stiepen"

L404[11:47:00] <vifino> Kilobyte account -> "Stiepen"

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L406[11:47:21] zsh sets mode: +v on Bacon

L407[11:47:26] <Sangar> Kilobyte, pull 1.6 branch into 1.7 branch, fix all the conflicts, fix all the changes :P

L408[11:47:35] * JoshTheEnder eats Bacon

L409[11:47:37] <Vexatos> That commit name https://github.com/Vexatos/Thut/commit/4f19014fc413aff326d84fa5fa46e9fd6d47ee4d

L410[11:47:40] <vifino> Bacon: explain yo

L411[11:47:53] <Bacon> OMNOMNOMNOM

L412[11:48:03] * vifino facepalms

L413[11:48:15] ⇦ Parts: Bacon (~tasty@5.231.51.78) ())

L414[11:48:24] <dangranos> ._.

L415[11:48:33] <Kilobyte> i used to have scripts like

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L417[11:48:39] * Kilobyte summons bacon

L418[11:48:45] <Kilobyte> *bacon joins*

L419[11:48:54] <vifino> ....

L420[11:48:58] <Kilobyte> and /me eats bacon

L421[11:49:08] <JoshTheEnder> http://imgur.com/gallery/VFEQkxq

L422[11:49:17] <Kilobyte> vifino: its just for entertainment purposes

L423[11:49:23] <vifino> >_<

L424[11:51:17] <Vexatos> Meh

L425[11:51:25] <Vexatos> Now I guess I need to learn gradle properly

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L427[11:56:54] <Sangar> gtg, bb in the evening o/

L428[11:56:58] <vifino> o/

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L437[12:54:07] <skyem123> 3G internet from phone, connected to computer via bluetooth

L438[12:54:36] <JoshTheEnder> cant you wifi tether?

L439[12:54:58] <JoshTheEnder> cause that'd be better, bluetooth isnt the best for speeds

L440[12:55:44] <skyem123> computer is netbook, running linux off an SD card, installed from a DVD via USB.

L441[12:55:44] <skyem123> wifi?

L442[12:55:44] <skyem123> whats wrong with bluetooth?

L443[12:55:45] <skyem123> eh, it's mobile internet.

L444[12:56:12] <skyem123> worse than 3G now.

L445[12:56:20] <skyem123> now the small circle.

L446[12:56:26] <skyem123> o

L447[12:56:35] <skyem123> 0 bars. 3G. wat

L448[12:57:50] <skyem123> Anyway, bluetooth doesn't require me to dig out the phone to enable wifi tethering.

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L455[13:29:38] <skyem123> ugh... i feel car sick.

L456[13:29:49] * skyem123 is in car

L457[13:30:54] <Cruor> skyem123: sounds like you are on a upside down pig flying across the sky

L458[13:30:55] <Cruor> o_O

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L460[13:31:46] <JoshTheEnder> Cruor, we dont need to know what happens on your acid trips :P

L461[13:32:23] <Vexatos> asie: How do I make a component callback in OC return nil?

L462[13:32:26] <Cruor> ... i dont do that kind of stuff

L463[13:32:28] <Cruor> ... totally

L464[13:32:38] <JoshTheEnder> jk :P

L465[13:32:47] <asie> Vexatos: not sure

L466[13:33:58] <Vexatos> Return an empty object array?

L467[13:34:18] <Vexatos> or null

L468[13:38:55] <gjgfuj> Vexatos, null.

L469[13:39:05] <Vexatos> Ok

L470[13:39:15] <gjgfuj> Specifically, an array of null, preferably.

L471[13:39:30] <Vexatos> Yea

L472[13:39:59] <Vexatos> return new Object[]{null, "reason, this is important >__>"};

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L474[13:43:24] <JoshTheEnder> O SKS-Phone

L475[13:43:34] <SKS-Phone> o/

L476[13:46:18] * Vexatos pings istasi

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L480[13:56:15] <v^> wooo

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L487[14:19:03] <istasi> \o

L488[14:19:16] <istasi> you got something for me to test vex? :))

L489[14:19:43] <Vexatos> Yes I do

L490[14:19:58] <istasi> gief dl link

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L492[14:20:05] <Vexatos> The only thing currently not working is only a visual one

L493[14:20:23] <Vexatos> the Control doesn't render properly after you reload the world

L494[14:20:28] <ds84182> .calc 15631-2048

L495[14:20:28] <^v> ds84182, 13583

L496[14:20:36] <Vexatos> i.e. the floor the elevator is called to won't be visible

L497[14:20:37] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/arS2y/b3ee563762.jar

L498[14:20:41] <Vexatos> istasi ^

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L500[14:20:53] <Vexatos> I recommend testing in a new world

L501[14:21:05] <Vexatos> Or at least with a completely new elevator, new controls and new rails

L502[14:21:08] <ds84182> .conv 2 GiB to MiB

L503[14:21:16] <istasi> all of my worlds are test worlds though

L504[14:21:29] <ds84182> watvr

L505[14:21:32] <istasi> mmkay

L506[14:21:58] <JoshTheEnder> .conv

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L508[14:25:41] <Vexatos> istasi: Test all the things xD

L509[14:26:34] <istasi> its tab is called thut's concrete \/o/

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L512[14:43:48] <JoshTheEnder> for those interested, i just released chapter 4.2 of my story, it can be found here http://www.theender.net/story/

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L514[14:46:50] <Vexatos> istasi: How's it going

L515[14:47:02] <istasi> no errors so far

L516[14:47:32] <Vexatos> Hua

L517[14:47:51] <istasi> fear no though, i shall find some!

L518[14:48:47] <Vexatos> Also, did you see

L519[14:48:53] <Vexatos> I added all the ingame documentation thingies

L520[14:49:36] <istasi> nice ^^

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L522[15:08:35] <Vexatos> Hmmm... Strange

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L530[15:42:07] <Vexatos> This is so weird

L531[15:46:34] <gamax92> :D I can run Classic in MultiMC

L532[15:49:01] <asie> FSP integration for Computronics is in

L533[15:53:58] <Vexatos> Wow, this is the most weird thing I've ever seen

L534[15:54:10] <istasi> which?

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L537[15:55:04] <Vexatos> Well, apparently the renderer which is supposed to display the green and the yellow dot on the elevator control

L538[15:55:11] <Vexatos> Does properly show the green one

L539[15:55:15] <Vexatos> but not the yellow one

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L541[15:55:59] <istasi> i get the yellow one at me though?

L542[15:56:08] <Vexatos> Try to reload your world

L543[15:56:18] <Vexatos> Then tell me whether you still get it

L544[15:56:33] <Vexatos> (Should appear whenever you call the elevator

L545[15:56:34] <Vexatos> )

L546[15:57:02] <istasi> i do not get it now

L547[15:57:05] <istasi> you broke it!

L548[15:57:16] <istasi> but it seems to move fine though

L549[15:57:22] <Vexatos> Exactly

L550[15:57:25] <Kodos> Someone count to 5 and ping me

L551[15:57:28] <Vexatos> It's only the renderer that's messed up

L552[15:57:33] <Vexatos> Whether the yellow dot shows up is determined by a certain variable. But whenever I access the variable inside the renderer, it's 0, regardless of the actual value

L553[16:00:03] <istasi> i think i found an error, let me check abit more

L554[16:00:20] <istasi> if you got 2 floors, and you bind bottom one at 1, and the top one at 3

L555[16:00:41] <istasi> =doesFloorExist(3) | false, while =doesFloorExists(2) | true

L556[16:02:39] <istasi> binding in different orders does bad things it seems

L557[16:02:50] <istasi> now control panels on floor 2 and 3 doesn't work

L558[16:03:51] <Vexatos> What if you re-bind them properly

L559[16:03:57] <istasi> nothing

L560[16:04:05] <istasi> reloading world made floor2 work

L561[16:04:16] <istasi> and control on all floors work

L562[16:04:22] <istasi> but, its not able to go o floor 3

L563[16:04:56] <Vexatos> And if you re-bind floor 3 now?

L564[16:05:12] <istasi> does nothing, still wont go there

L565[16:05:21] <istasi> i can from floor 3, tell it go move between floor 1 and 2 np

L566[16:06:16] <istasi> does the difference in Y between each floor have to be the same?

L567[16:06:24] <Vexatos> No

L568[16:07:43] <istasi> =doesFloorExist(3) | false thoug

L569[16:08:05] <Vexatos> Then the floor isn't even registered as one

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L571[16:08:15] <Vexatos> Try breaking+replacing the control

L572[16:08:17] <Vexatos> on floor 3

L573[16:08:48] <istasi> now it wont move the elevator from floor 3

L574[16:08:55] <istasi> trying to reload world i suppose

L575[16:08:58] <Vexatos> After you re-bound?

L576[16:09:03] <istasi> yeah

L577[16:09:24] <Vexatos> This mod is so broken >___>

L578[16:09:26] <istasi> after reload it does as before, i can move it between floor 1 and 2

L579[16:09:46] <Vexatos> Maybe floor 3 is too close to the end of th rails?

L580[16:09:54] <istasi> its not

L581[16:10:18] <Vexatos> Well, that did not hao

L582[16:10:22] <Vexatos> happen to me ever

L583[16:11:52] <istasi> are you using a 3x3?

L584[16:12:43] <Vexatos> Yes

L585[16:12:52] <Vexatos> I am testing with all of them

L586[16:14:21] <istasi> rebuild the elevator, and now it'll go to 3 -.-

L587[16:15:09] <Vexatos> Re-building an elevator apparently fixes a LOT of things

L588[16:15:16] <Vexatos> might be some saving issue with that one

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L591[16:24:28] <istasi> .w event

L592[16:24:28] <^v> istasi, http://ocd.cil.li/api:event

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L597[16:48:59] <idealcoder> Just restarted my server and the server racks are empty. Is it normal that servers disappear?

L598[16:49:21] <JoshTheEnder> idealcoder, what version are you running?

L599[16:49:30] <idealcoder> 1.6.4

L600[16:49:35] <JoshTheEnder> i mean oc version

L601[16:49:38] <idealcoder> oh

L602[16:49:49] <JoshTheEnder> the filename will do

L603[16:49:52] <idealcoder> OpenComputers-MC1.6.4-1.3.1.516-universal

L604[16:51:13] <asie> https://cdn.mediacru.sh/veMyTc4ig8yy.jpg

L605[16:51:15] <asie> i'm sorry

L606[16:51:16] <asie> i had to

L607[16:51:40] <JoshTheEnder> asie, wut

L608[16:51:50] <asie> JoshTheEnder: someone on the #redpower IRC said "I sure hope elo tweets today."

L609[16:52:04] <asie> someon on a semiprivate IRC channel I run replied

L610[16:52:07] <asie> "I hope elo-senpai notices me"

L611[16:52:13] <JoshTheEnder> lol

L612[16:54:10] <JoshTheEnder> ermm, idealcoder try updating to 1.3.2, i had an issue like that a while back but havent had it since using a newer version (cant recall what build it was fixed in)

L613[16:55:42] <idealcoder> thx

L614[16:56:32] <Vexatos> asie: +1

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L619[17:09:07] <Vexatos> .openprg

L620[17:09:12] <^v> Vexatos, http://71.238.153.166/paste/CZHUs.txt

L621[17:09:38] <Vexatos> Ah

L622[17:10:47] <Vexatos> .openprg

L623[17:10:56] <^v> Vexatos, http://71.238.153.166/paste/kZLoi.txt

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L627[17:55:21] <Sangar> o/

L628[17:55:25] <istasi> \o

L629[17:55:39] <Kodos> Sangar! Any new features coming at any point? Or are you working on bugfixing mainly right now

L630[17:55:52] <JoshTheEnder> \o Sangar

L631[17:56:04] <gamax92> http://i.imgur.com/AkZPGEC.png Hi welcome to Silent Hill

L632[17:56:28] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92, lol

L633[17:56:29] <Daiyousei> gamax92: haha yes

L634[17:58:39] <Sangar> Kodos, portable computers / tablets in some shape or form. but in general the next two months will be relatively... slow, because university.

L635[17:58:55] <Kodos> Ah, yeh understandble

L636[17:58:57] <Kodos> err

L637[17:59:09] * Kodos quietly shoves an 'a' in that sentence

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L639[17:59:26] <Kodos> Also, my wife joined IRC today

L640[17:59:31] * JoshTheEnder shoves an a into Kodos

L641[17:59:32] <Kodos> She's actually here now, but she's tabbed out I think

L642[18:00:00] <gamax92> Ahh c lassic

L643[18:00:11] <gamax92> When you're in the lava at the bottom of the map, you're trapped forever.

L644[18:00:24] <dangranos> :

L645[18:00:26] <dangranos> ^

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L647[18:06:31] <ds84182> Sangar, would it be possible to disable security checks in the deobf versions of OC?

L648[18:06:53] <Sangar> security checks?

L649[18:07:22] <Vexatos> The huge text message appearing whenever you join a world

L650[18:08:17] <ds84182> that and the thing where it System.exit's minecraft before it loads

L651[18:08:28] <ds84182> that for some reason only happens in my dev environment

L652[18:09:29] <Sangar> the message: maybe. i'm considering just throwing the fingerprint thing out in 1.7, too, because... well, it's ridiculously easy to remove anyway. as for the latter: i don't system.exit() anywhere, so i have no idea what that could be.

L653[18:10:11] <ds84182> Sangar, well it throws an exception, and that in turn does an system.exit

L654[18:10:27] <Sangar> what's the exception?

L655[18:10:55] <ds84182> 1 sec

L656[18:11:02] <ds84182> relaunching dev env

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L659[18:15:40] <ds84182> Actually, it's a java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: li.cil.oc.OpenComputers$.tampered_$eq(Lscala/Option;)V

L660[18:15:45] <ds84182> Sangar, ^

L661[18:15:50] <Sangar> wot

L662[18:15:59] <Sangar> mc ver?

L663[18:16:06] <ds84182> 1.7.10

L664[18:16:08] <gamax92> 0.30

L665[18:16:10] <Sangar> wat

L666[18:16:14] <Sangar> this doesnt...

L667[18:16:15] <Sangar> i dont...

L668[18:16:18] <ds84182> gamax92, nobody cares about Classic

L669[18:16:19] <Sangar> o.O

L670[18:16:28] <gamax92> ds84182: oh, then you are no longer a colaborator

L671[18:16:34] <ds84182> uwot

L672[18:16:46] * ds84182 commits a thing that deletes everyting

L673[18:16:51] <ds84182> *everything

L674[18:16:56] <gamax92> except local copies

L675[18:16:58] <Vexatos> Sangar: Not happening to me <3

L676[18:17:01] <Vexatos> in my dev env

L677[18:17:12] <Sangar> cool. makes even less sense then :P

L678[18:17:43] <ds84182> Yeah, and I don't feel like updating... it takes about 2 hours to update

L679[18:22:46] <istasi> vex, elevator doesn't throw signal?

L680[18:22:53] <Vexatos> Nope

L681[18:23:03] <istasi> kay

L682[18:23:10] <Vexatos> I don't know how to make the thing push a signal yet

L683[18:23:23] <Vexatos> But it looks much more complicated than adding regular functions xD

L684[18:23:51] <istasi> kay ^^

L685[18:24:43] <Sangar> Vexatos, context.signal("name", args...)

L686[18:24:57] <Vexatos> Huh?

L687[18:25:02] <Sangar> well, in a method :P

L688[18:25:32] <Vexatos> But where to get the context from

L689[18:26:16] <Sangar> since you're using the simplecomponent, only via the computer calling some method (then it's the first arg to the callback)

L690[18:27:29] <Sangar> so if you want to fire it at <insert random time> that would be a little tricky, admittedly :P

L691[18:27:59] <Sangar> it'd be easier to implement the actual environment interface (see the prefab for what you need then), where you have a node at all times you can use to send the signal

L692[18:28:27] <Sangar> but who needs signals anyway!

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L694[18:36:11] <dittoslash> hi

L695[18:36:18] <dittoslash> im in a oc computer

L696[18:36:33] <JoshTheEnder> good for you

L697[18:36:47] <dittoslash> woo got a robot

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L699[18:37:21] <Sangar> irc controlled robot? >_>

L700[18:37:29] <SpiritedDusty> that sounds safe

L701[18:37:34] <robhol> it's been known to happen :p

L702[18:37:50] <robhol> though usually with a different kind of robot

L703[18:37:55] <Sangar> indeed

L704[18:37:57] <robhol> SpiritedDusty: well, why not :p

L705[18:38:12] <robhol> only listen to ops + nickserv registration and it's reasonably safe :3

L706[18:38:21] * SpiritedDusty is now a troll

L707[18:38:25] <Sangar> wich a companion twitch stream, so people can actually see what they're telling it to do :P

L708[18:38:47] <Sangar> wich? really? how did that t become a c?

L709[18:38:47] <robhol> that's a great addition! The twitch camera peripheral

L710[18:38:48] <SpiritedDusty> "Twitch plays control the OC robot"

L711[18:38:50] <dangranos> twitch controls robot :3

L712[18:38:55] <robhol> SpiritedDusty: oh dear god :p

L713[18:39:01] <dangranos> ^

L714[18:39:01] <robhol> poor world

L715[18:40:10] <SpiritedDusty> imagine "twitch codes OS"

L716[18:40:13] <Vexatos> Sangar: Noone needs signals

L717[18:40:14] <gamax92> lol

L718[18:40:28] <Vexatos> while true do <someCheckFunction> os.sleep(5) end

L719[18:40:29] <Vexatos> xD

L720[18:40:35] <gamax92> SpiritedDusty: 1 week later, Windows ME is made.

L721[18:40:40] <Sangar> KappaOS?

L722[18:40:47] <JoshTheEnder> SpiritedDusty, wasnt that how vista came to be?

L723[18:40:53] <Kodos> Speaking of OS's, I need to get to work on my CentComm console

L724[18:41:10] <gamax92> Speaking of OS's, I'm going to go eat chicken

L725[18:41:24] <gamax92> Speaking of Console's, I'm getting a phone call.

L726[18:41:34] <SpiritedDusty> Speaking of chicken, I just eat some

L727[18:41:41] <gamax92> D: SpiritedDusty you did it wrong

L728[18:41:53] <ds84182> Speaking of OS's, I need to work on my hypervisor.

L729[18:42:04] <gamax92> its: Speaking of (something), (Unrelated to first something)

L730[18:42:22] <SpiritedDusty> Speaking of hypervisors, I'll be playing tetris

L731[18:42:30] <Sangar> Speaking of apostrophe's, in weird places.

L732[18:42:52] <Vexatos> Sangar: http://www.twitch.tv/TwitchPlaysOC

L733[18:42:59] <robhol> Speaking of non-sequiturs, potato garble proximity bastard

L734[18:43:22] <Sangar> Vexatos, oh good, i was afraid you'd actually created that :P

L735[18:43:53] <Vexatos> I totally need to write an IRC-responding robot program now

L736[18:43:57] <Vexatos> the robot will have an inventory

L737[18:43:59] <Vexatos> and a pick

L738[18:44:03] <Vexatos> and a sword

L739[18:44:14] <Vexatos> And screen and keyboard

L740[18:44:14] <gamax92> and tnt

L741[18:44:16] <Vexatos> Mwahahahaha

L742[18:45:02] <JoshTheEnder> only problem with stuff like that would be refueling

L743[18:45:24] <Vexatos> Nah

L744[18:45:26] <Vexatos> solar gen

L745[18:45:27] <Vexatos> xD

L746[18:45:29] <Vexatos> No, better

L747[18:45:32] <Vexatos> creative case

L748[18:45:34] <Vexatos> Just because

L749[18:46:38] <Sangar> challenge idea: make all actions *generate* energy, but idling consume *a lot more* energy.

L750[18:47:23] <Sangar> aka 'speed' :P

L751[18:48:01] <Kilobyte> Sangar: wait, you are high on speed? jk

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L753[18:48:27] <Sangar> if it seems that way that's purely coincidental >_>

L754[18:48:41] <Kilobyte> lol

L755[18:50:00] <Kilobyte> Sangar: when did you get the idea to write OC

L756[18:50:18] <Vexatos> 2 weeks ago

L757[18:50:20] <Sangar> uh, as in time or as in cause?

L758[18:50:34] <Kilobyte> both :P

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L760[18:50:58] <Kilobyte> mainly cause though

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L762[18:51:06] <gamax92> 4 years ago ... in the magical land of postskville. A star held Sangar hostage and forced him to write OC

L763[18:51:34] <Vexatos> In scala

L764[18:51:50] <JoshTheEnder> this text should be italics, if it's not then your client is bad and you should feel bad

L765[18:52:03] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder: no because italics is not an official irc thing iirc

L766[18:52:06] <Caitlyn> Oh gods the slanty it buuurns

L767[18:52:31] <JoshTheEnder> Hello Caitlyn, i want to play a game

L768[18:52:33] <JoshTheEnder> :P

L769[18:52:42] <Kilobyte> italics is like this. but most clients implement it as inverted text

L770[18:52:50] <Kilobyte> including mine

L771[18:52:56] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, client?

L772[18:52:56] <gamax92> and mine

L773[18:53:05] <gamax92> inb4 hexcaht

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L775[18:53:12] <Caitlyn> Kilobyte, oh gods the black text on white bg it buuuuurns

L776[18:53:13] <Kilobyte> ew hexchat

L777[18:53:18] <Kilobyte> kvirc

L778[18:53:22] <gamax92> oh good

L779[18:53:30] <Kilobyte> like 5% of all clients display that as italics

L780[18:53:31] <vifino> burn hexchat pls

L781[18:53:34] <vifino> weechat OP

L782[18:53:35] * Caitlyn eviscerates Kilobyte

L783[18:53:35] <JoshTheEnder> Suddenly, red text

L784[18:53:39] * Caitlyn and vifino

L785[18:53:40] <gamax92> Nope is yellow

L786[18:53:45] <JoshTheEnder> it's red

L787[18:53:46] <Caitlyn> yep, red :p

L788[18:53:48] <gamax92> no its green

L789[18:53:55] * JoshTheEnder slays gamax92

L790[18:53:55] <Kilobyte> vifino: i wished i could use weechat

L791[18:53:56] <Sangar> Kilobyte, a little over a year ago i think. cause... i dunno. mostly really because i wanted to write a scala mod :P next up because i got the feeling that cc was relatively dead development-wise/not going where i'd want it to go, but i like computers and lua. stuff?

L792[18:53:59] <Caitlyn> I has the colors enabled again

L793[18:53:59] <gamax92> and that is purple

L794[18:54:02] <Kilobyte> but atm it segfaults on start

L795[18:54:19] <vifino> ???????? ????

L796[18:54:22] <gamax92> oww

L797[18:54:24] <gamax92> my eyes

L798[18:54:29] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i am at a point where my language idea is very close to scala lol

L799[18:54:30] <Caitlyn> watdawatwat

L800[18:54:38] <JoshTheEnder> burn

L801[18:54:38] <Kilobyte> and yes, statically typed

L802[18:54:44] <vifino> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

L803[18:54:45] <Sangar> nice

L804[18:54:47] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder: thats cyan

L805[18:54:49] * Caitlyn eviscerates JoshTheEnder

L806[18:55:06] <gamax92> now it is orange

L807[18:55:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: and it will prob not even need a runtime because compiler magic

L808[18:55:49] <Kilobyte> "a" + "b" compiles to "a".."b" because the compiler knows + for strings compiles to ..

L809[18:56:19] <Sangar> makes sense. or well, just make the runtime small enough to 'statically link' it :P

L810[18:56:32] * JoshTheEnder laughs at Caitlyn's feeble attempt to eviscerate him

L811[18:56:47] <Kilobyte> Sangar: something like this

L812[18:56:48] <Kilobyte> https://gist.github.com/Kilobyte22/09b8addbaefed8f04cdb

L813[18:57:02] <Kilobyte> the extern thingy just informs the compiler about the existance of print

L814[18:57:25] <Sangar> mhm

L815[18:57:37] <Kilobyte> in the end that will be in a "header" file thats always loaded (and containt the entire lua default api)

L816[18:57:47] <Sangar> do you plan to try type inference (a la scala)? so you could just make that def hello(what: String) = ...?

L817[18:57:56] <Kilobyte> probably not

L818[18:58:00] <Kilobyte> at least not for now

L819[18:58:23] <Sangar> heh. yeah. would probably be too ambitious :P

L820[18:58:27] <Kilobyte> i might write my own parser gen (i didn't find a good pure lua one)

L821[18:58:39] <Kilobyte> only issue: how to do operator priorities

L822[18:58:55] <Sangar> lazy but simple: fixed

L823[18:59:11] <Kilobyte> well, i need to parse that stuff

L824[18:59:19] <Kilobyte> and that will be complicated

L825[18:59:53] <Kilobyte> also, i am not sure if like in scala you can just replace the . before methods with a space

L826[18:59:59] <Kilobyte> might not be able to do that

L827[19:00:28] <Kilobyte> also, i think i'll do anonymous functions differently

L828[19:00:37] <Sangar> shorter? :>

L829[19:00:51] <Kilobyte> (String, Int -> Nil) -> whatever

L830[19:01:19] <Kilobyte> or something

L831[19:01:28] <SpiritedDusty> has there been news of anyone working on an OC emulator?

L832[19:01:29] <Sangar> is the -> Nil the return type or is that a function being passed in?

L833[19:01:39] <Kilobyte> Sangar: return

L834[19:01:46] <Kilobyte> SpiritedDusty: yes i am working on one

L835[19:01:52] * Kilobyte digs out the project

L836[19:01:58] <Kilobyte> gotta move all java to scala

L837[19:02:00] <Sangar> mmm. wouldn't it be more... uniform to do (String, Int): Nil -> whatever?

L838[19:02:20] <Sangar> (given how def looks like)

L839[19:02:23] <Kilobyte> u agree

L840[19:02:26] <Kilobyte> *i

L841[19:02:50] <Kilobyte> might also make it so, if you leave out the type it defaults to Nil

L842[19:02:59] <Kilobyte> and ignores any return value of the method

L843[19:03:02] <Sangar> that'd be nice

L844[19:03:49] <Kilobyte> there will also be a diff between Nil and nil

L845[19:03:53] <Kilobyte> nil == null

L846[19:03:55] <Kilobyte> Nil == Unit

L847[19:04:16] <Kilobyte> nil is a value, Nil a singleton

L848[19:04:28] <ds84182> So

L849[19:04:32] <ds84182> How do I server rack

L850[19:04:51] <Sangar> ds84182, take server, select in hotbar, rightclick

L851[19:05:00] <SpiritedDusty> Kilobyte, does your emulator work yet?

L852[19:05:05] <Kilobyte> no

L853[19:05:05] <vifino> Sangar: servers are OP

L854[19:05:09] <SpiritedDusty> :(

L855[19:05:15] <ds84182> k, done

L856[19:05:18] <Sangar> vifino, they are?

L857[19:05:22] <Kilobyte> SpiritedDusty: sorry, i am not a too experienced dev :/

L858[19:05:30] <vifino> They are best thing ever Sangar.

L859[19:05:37] <Sangar> :P

L860[19:05:38] <Kilobyte> SpiritedDusty: current status: https://github.com/Kilobyte22/VirtualOC

L861[19:06:11] <Kilobyte> gotta port all scala to java

L862[19:06:12] <vifino> Kilobyte: I hope its ruby

L863[19:06:19] <Kilobyte> vifino: scala.

L864[19:06:25] <vifino> ew

L865[19:06:33] <Kilobyte> scala is just as cool as ruby

L866[19:06:49] <Kilobyte> but easier to debug because statically typed

L867[19:07:00] <SpiritedDusty> it's not as ridiculous as trying to write an emulator in JS :3

L868[19:07:14] <Kilobyte> ew JS

L869[19:07:24] <Kilobyte> if ANYTHING, coffeescript please

L870[19:07:26] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty, did you consider typescript or something else that's statically typed but compiles to js?

L871[19:08:16] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i am still scared @ OC network stuff

L872[19:08:24] <Kilobyte> aka component network

L873[19:08:35] <Kilobyte> that api isn't final yet in the emulator

L874[19:09:00] <Sangar> eh, you'll be just fine

L875[19:09:10] <Kilobyte> meh

L876[19:09:16] <Kilobyte> worst part will be the gui

L877[19:09:25] <Kilobyte> i still have no clue how i'll do that

L878[19:09:27] <Vexatos> .w elevator

L879[19:09:27] <^v> Vexatos, Not found. did you want "generator api"?

L880[19:09:30] <Vexatos> Aww

L881[19:09:40] <Vexatos> I hoped the bot would auto-detect wiki pages

L882[19:09:48] <Vexatos> Guess they're hardcoded?

L883[19:10:02] <Vexatos> .help

L884[19:10:02] <^v> Vexatos, http://ocd.cil.li/

L885[19:10:06] <Vexatos> Mhm

L886[19:10:15] <istasi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80c3p0sSmuA vex, you rock \o/

L888[19:10:28] <Vexatos> +1

L889[19:10:52] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, I just took a look at typescript and I don't see anything statically typed

L890[19:11:31] <Kilobyte> Sangar: is there an easy way to convert an entire batch of files to scala?

L891[19:11:51] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty, http://www.typescriptlang.org/Tutorial is see types there! (i believe they're optional, though)

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L893[19:12:25] <Sangar> Kilobyte, i think there's refactor->convert to scala or something?

L894[19:13:30] <Benguin> Hmm... After moving my save to a new instance of the modpack I'm using, my OpenComputer won't run D:

L895[19:13:42] <Benguin> bluescreens, and says no bootable medium: file not found

L896[19:13:59] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ugh, i am better off doing that manually

L897[19:14:00] <Kilobyte> D:

L898[19:14:17] <SpiritedDusty> Google's Dart compiles to JS and has statically typed variables :D

L899[19:14:34] <Vexatos> istasi: AWESOME

L900[19:14:38] <Vexatos> This is so cool

L901[19:14:41] * Vexatos cries

L902[19:14:49] <Vexatos> Someone's actually doing stuff with that

L903[19:15:35] <istasi> <3

L904[19:16:12] <Sangar> Benguin, place disk drive next to computer, insert OpneOS floppy disk (craft: disk + book)

L905[19:16:27] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yeah, the converter is pretty terrible :P

L906[19:16:37] <Kilobyte> Sangar: it works on interfaces

L907[19:16:41] <Sangar> i particularly 'like' all the .asInstanceOf[Double] it likes to inject

L908[19:16:44] <Kilobyte> but with classes... nope

L909[19:16:45] <Vexatos> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/istasi-Programs/blob/master/ivator/ivator.lua looks like an entirely different language

L910[19:16:49] <Vexatos> Hehe

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L913[19:18:30] <Kilobyte> Sangar: it just puts 'abstract' before every 'trait'

L914[19:18:31] <Benguin> Sangar: Oh, I guess the pack switched to using a newer version of OC?

L915[19:18:52] <Sangar> Benguin, sounds like it

L916[19:19:20] <Benguin> I see. Thanks for the hep

L917[19:19:21] <Benguin> help*

L918[19:19:32] <Sangar> np

L919[19:20:35] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how to do this in scala

L920[19:20:43] <Kilobyte> <A extends B>

L921[19:20:59] <Kilobyte> as in public interface EncryptionLayerFactory<T extends EncryptionLayer> {

L922[19:21:07] <Benguin> Also, how come I can't put a second drive into the additional slot within a tier 3 case? Is that not for extra drives?

L923[19:21:25] <Benguin> Oh wait

L924[19:21:29] <Benguin> I guess that's only tier 2 drives and below

L925[19:21:30] <Benguin> I see

L926[19:21:48] <LordFokas> o/

L927[19:23:15] <LordFokas> .drama

L928[19:23:25] <LordFokas> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

L929[19:23:32] <^v> LordFokas, Eloraam sues MCPC+ developers

L930[19:23:32] <LordFokas> I need my drama!

L931[19:23:36] <LordFokas> ah

L932[19:23:43] <robhol> dat reaction time

L933[19:24:00] <LordFokas> .drama

L934[19:24:00] <^v> LordFokas, Micdoodle8 decides to shame wha-ha-ha from ForgeCraft

L935[19:24:11] <LordFokas> love it

L936[19:24:28] <LordFokas> this is like, the most important feature of this channel

L937[19:25:22] <Kilobyte> #drama also works

L938[19:25:22] <Kibibyte> Random Drama Scenario: Vazkii reminds you that Resonant Rise is too realistic

L939[19:26:23] <Sangar> Kilobyte, trait EncryptionLayerFactory[T <: EncryptionLayer]

L940[19:26:36] <Kilobyte> i figured that out by now :P

L941[19:26:45] <Sangar> :P

L942[19:26:58] <Sangar> didn't look at the timestamp

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L944[19:33:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: lang stats look so much better

L945[19:34:07] <Kilobyte> from >50% java to 7.3

L946[19:34:09] <Kilobyte> https://github.com/Kilobyte22/VirtualOC

L947[19:34:16] <Sangar> haha

L948[19:34:40] <Sangar> "Anti-Java Commit" :P

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L950[19:36:19] <Kilobyte> Sangar: now the manual fixing

L951[19:36:34] <Kilobyte> def kick(@Nullable reason: String)

L952[19:36:50] <Kilobyte> def kick(reason: Option[String])

L953[19:36:53] <Kilobyte> MUCH better

L954[19:38:58] <Kilobyte> Sangar: don't you agree?

L955[19:39:08] <ds84182> well, I got another problem Q_Q

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L957[19:39:59] <ds84182> Sangar, for some reason this code http://hastebin.com/ifoledolis.lua lags the hell out of key input in my hypervisor

L958[19:40:31] <ds84182> It's like component.invoke on the screen isn't direct anymore or something

L959[19:41:11] <Sangar> Kilobyte, eeh, i'm so-so about the Option stuff. the concept is nice, but it can be... awkward.

L960[19:41:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: well, actually

L961[19:41:39] <Kilobyte> def kick(reason: String = null)

L962[19:41:46] <Kilobyte> this looks best prob

L963[19:42:07] <Sangar> ds84182, hmmm, it might be getKeyboards isn't direct

L964[19:42:21] <Kilobyte> well, doesn't it only get called once?

L965[19:42:23] <ds84182> Yeah, it literally stops the computer for about a 1/4 of a second

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L967[19:43:56] <Kilobyte> on phone now

L968[19:44:08] <justastranger> .....

L969[19:44:09] <Sangar> ds84182, it actually does an extra pause :P of .25 seconds >_> the reasoning is that it has to actually do quite a bit of component network querying. just cache the results somewhere.

L970[19:44:12] <justastranger> grapefruit.log

L971[19:44:13] <justastranger> what

L972[19:44:28] <ds84182> Ok

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L976[19:46:34] <istasi> \o/

L977[19:47:19] <justastranger> o/

L978[19:47:23] <ds84182> o/

L979[19:48:00] <ds84182> Huh, so I cannot connect multiple remote terminals to a single server

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L982[19:57:31] <PotatoTrumpet> O/

L983[19:58:50] <PotatoTrumpet> I am back from my wonderful vacation to the Gulf of Mexico

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L985[19:59:27] <PotatoTrumpet> O/

L986[19:59:50] <istasi> \o

L987[20:00:07] <istasi> we mustn't let a bro five hanging!

L988[20:01:16] <istasi> bbl

L989[20:01:34] <PotatoTrumpet> FYI to hate jellyfish

L990[20:03:53] <Dashkal> Awww, they just want ti give you a hug. And they love you so much they make sure you remember the hug for hours and hours!

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L994[20:17:49] <Benguin> Guuh. Still really wish openperipheral methods would return objects properly q^q

L995[20:18:32] <Benguin> (Like the glassesbridge not returning e.g., "box" objects that you can bind to a variable with which to then access the boxes own methods)

L996[20:18:44] <Benguin> Unless I'm just doin' it wrotng

L997[20:18:45] <Benguin> wrong*

L998[20:19:43] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ^ is that easily fixable?

L999[20:20:48] <Sangar> uhm, latest version of occ + oc does that, actually

L1000[20:21:14] <Sangar> i tested the glasses and could create boxes and move them and so on

L1001[20:21:41] <Kilobyte> latest or latest dev?

L1002[20:21:49] <Sangar> currently the same thing

L1003[20:21:59] <Sangar> well, pretty much

L1004[20:22:01] <Sangar> :P

L1005[20:22:09] <Kodos> WTB OC Terminal Glasses

L1006[20:23:36] <Dashkal> First experience with OC since the ROM update. Very very cool :D

L1007[20:23:53] <Kodos> ROM update?

L1008[20:24:01] <Dashkal> ROM-removing update if you prefer?

L1009[20:24:05] <Dashkal> I last used the mod in 1.6.4

L1010[20:24:24] <Kodos> It's still updated for 1.6.4 =P

L1011[20:24:40] <Dashkal> If that wans't clear I'm unsure how to describe what I mean better...

L1012[20:24:48] <Kodos> But I'm thinking you're referring to 1.3 and the things that came with it

L1013[20:24:59] <Sangar> don't be nit-picky Kodos :P

L1014[20:25:20] <Benguin> Sangar: so do I need to do something particular to make this work? I'm not the greatest when it comes to lua

L1015[20:25:22] <Kodos> I've been debugging Galacticraft all day >.>

L1016[20:25:27] <Kodos> I'm in a nitpicky mood

L1017[20:25:35] <Sangar> haha

L1018[20:25:50] <Dashkal> In any event, I finally have a use case again, so happily installed it.

L1019[20:26:02] <Dashkal> And very cool things have happened. Need to investigate the robots now

L1020[20:26:03] <Benguin> right now I'm just doing "box = bridge.addBox(10,10,10,10)" and it's not working. Unless it's just 'cause this modpack is a bit behind

L1021[20:26:08] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i think i'll do the updater next...

L1022[20:26:29] <Sangar> Benguin, uhm, make sure you have the latest opencomponents version, that *should* be enough (since you already seem to run oc 1.3)

L1023[20:26:36] <Kilobyte> actually

L1024[20:26:37] <Kilobyte> hmm

L1025[20:26:48] <Kilobyte> that would be a different project, so rather not

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L1027[20:27:14] <Benguin> 0.2.0.46 is my opencomponents version

L1028[20:27:21] <Benguin> Will update

L1029[20:27:29] <Sangar> Benguin, hmm, that should be new enough

L1030[20:27:36] <Sangar> oh, right!

L1031[20:27:43] <Benguin> Oh?

L1032[20:28:02] <Sangar> you have do '=blah.addBox().value' or similar iirc, because of how the converters work

L1033[20:28:16] <Benguin> ohh

L1034[20:28:20] <Benguin> Will see if that's the issue, brb

L1035[20:28:28] <Sangar> just try `=glassesthing.addBox()` in the lua interpreter, you'll see what it's called

L1036[20:29:15] <Benguin> Yess that works.

L1037[20:29:22] <Benguin> Thanks

L1038[20:29:26] <Sangar> great :)

L1039[20:30:01] <gamax92> Sangar: http://i.imgur.com/gFavGNC.png stuff almost works

L1040[20:30:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i am considering if i should depend on OC jar or just do the lua vm stuff completely seperated

L1041[20:30:43] <Sangar> gamax92, what am i looking at? own mc (renderer?) implementation?

L1042[20:30:56] <gamax92> Sangar: Minecraft for Wii

L1043[20:31:02] <Benguin> Now I just need to figure out why EnderIO capacitors don't work right xD

L1044[20:31:05] <Sangar> gamax92, ooooh, cool

L1045[20:31:08] <Benguin> capacitor banks*

L1046[20:31:21] <SpiritedDusty> minecraft for wii? o.o

L1047[20:31:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: recently i saw a mc server written in c++

L1048[20:32:09] <Kilobyte> with like > 10 times the performance of the vanilla one

L1049[20:32:20] <Sangar> Kilobyte, hmm, you might be able to re-use quite a bit of the oc stuff, since components now also use the 'Container' thinger for abstraction (so they're usually not *directly* dependent on mc's classes (tileentity etc) iirc

L1050[20:32:31] <SpiritedDusty> http://mc-server.org/ this?

L1051[20:32:34] <Kilobyte> yeah

L1052[20:32:49] <Kilobyte> Sangar: look at this mess https://github.com/tqh/efi-example/blob/master/gfx_example.c

L1053[20:33:29] <asie> Kilobyte: it's not about Java

L1054[20:33:32] <asie> Java is actually close to the speed of C++

L1055[20:33:37] <asie> it's about not abusing the garbage collector

L1056[20:33:44] <Kilobyte> yeah

L1057[20:33:47] <asie> also, Minecraft's server is infinitely more complex than most rewrites

L1058[20:33:48] <asie> esp. with Forge

L1059[20:34:00] <asie> many custom servers take huge shortcuts

L1060[20:34:08] <Kilobyte> like?

L1061[20:34:27] <asie> Kilobyte: not exactly replicating vanilla behaviour

L1062[20:34:38] <Kilobyte> ah

L1063[20:34:42] <Kilobyte> examples?

L1064[20:34:58] <Sangar> asie, does that mean they behave more sensible or even less? :P

L1065[20:35:10] <asie> Sangar: more :D

L1066[20:35:20] <Sangar> haha

L1067[20:35:23] <Kilobyte> Sangar: did your eyes hurt when reading that code?

L1068[20:35:52] <Sangar> Kilobyte, not really, i've seen c code written by people at uni before :P

L1069[20:35:59] <Kilobyte> ah, kk

L1070[20:36:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: you don't wanna see my c code :P

L1071[20:36:28] <Kilobyte> well, ok

L1072[20:36:46] <Kilobyte> mine might be cleaner... once you understand pointers it can get easier

L1073[20:36:50] <Sangar> well, in general, code by students that never coded before >_>

L1074[20:37:11] <asie> Sangar: i can give you some coding pointers, do you want them?

L1075[20:37:29] <Kilobyte> Sangar: in our school we used a lib in java that 1. abstracts everything and 2. is completely german

L1076[20:37:33] <Sangar> this was in java, but stuff like 'create tread, start thread, then *immediately* call join, meaning the thread is completely pointless!'

L1077[20:37:39] <Kilobyte> anyways. task: add two numbers

L1078[20:37:45] <Kilobyte> what i saw:

L1079[20:37:58] <Kilobyte> int value = new Rechner(1 + 2)

L1080[20:37:59] <Kilobyte> ;

L1081[20:37:59] <Sangar> asie, what do you mean?

L1082[20:38:15] <Kilobyte> then they were wondering about compiler errors

L1083[20:38:32] <asie> Sangar: you know

L1084[20:38:34] <Kilobyte> (for those not german: Rechner is german word for calculator)

L1085[20:38:37] <asie> 0x38DE1293

L1086[20:38:42] <asie> 0xF9E34AC1

L1087[20:38:42] <Kilobyte> (also for computer)

L1088[20:38:46] <asie> good coding pointers

L1089[20:38:50] <Sangar> >_>

L1090[20:39:05] <asie> Sangar: xkcd pointers

L1091[20:39:11] <Sangar> 0xbaadfood

L1092[20:39:16] <asie> http://xkcd.com/138/

L1093[20:39:17] <Kilobyte> Sangar: or people trying to cast everything

L1094[20:39:33] <Kilobyte> (int) (double) 3

L1095[20:39:39] <Kilobyte> i have really seen that ^

L1096[20:39:48] <Sangar> asie, oh god, so old :X

L1097[20:40:18] * Kilobyte feels slightly ignored

L1098[20:40:20] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yeah... the 'new Rechner' thingy is typical for courses where they start with oop right away...

L1099[20:40:47] <asie> i wish i could live from coding full-time

L1100[20:41:02] <Sangar> i'm always irritated how consequently people can ignore warnings their ides give them, too

L1101[20:41:02] <Kilobyte> Sangar: oh, there are worse things, just don't remember

L1102[20:41:04] <asie> life in Poland is a lot cheaper, cheap enough to go by with like $500/month if you're very careful

L1103[20:41:09] <asie> i mean, Eloraam could live full-time in Poland

L1104[20:41:15] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ides like BlueJ?

L1105[20:41:28] <Kilobyte> at least i could convince my teacher that i could use Intellij

L1106[20:41:46] <Sangar> Kilobyte, never heard of that one

L1107[20:42:31] <Kilobyte> Sangar: it has worst syntax highligting than sublime, no tab completion, no show-errors-while-typing

L1108[20:42:38] <Sangar> cool

L1109[20:42:41] <Kilobyte> at least it has a debugger

L1110[20:42:52] <Kilobyte> though, its aimed at beginners

L1111[20:42:56] <Kilobyte> oh, the library sucks balls:

L1112[20:43:06] <Kilobyte> this is the official way to get the length of a string

L1113[20:43:45] <Kilobyte> new Textwerkzeug().holeLaenge("my string") [new Textutil().getLength("my string")

L1114[20:43:46] <Kilobyte> ]

L1115[20:43:54] <Kilobyte> the translation is in []s

L1116[20:44:08] <Sangar> ugh

L1117[20:44:28] <Kilobyte> Sangar: there is another one to concat strings

L1118[20:44:41] <Kilobyte> because students are to stupid to use "string 1" + "string 2"

L1119[20:45:08] <Kilobyte> the gui api is a crappy wrapper around swing

L1120[20:45:18] <Kilobyte> which has tons of graphical glitches

L1121[20:45:29] <Sangar> stop, it hurts enough already >_>

L1122[20:45:32] <Kilobyte> and event handlers are done like this:

L1123[20:45:40] <Sangar> nooo, my brain

L1124[20:45:42] <Kilobyte> public void myHandler() {}

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L1126[20:45:53] <Sangar> see, asie couldn't take it either!

L1127[20:46:12] <Kilobyte> myButton.setzeBearbeiter("myHandler")

L1128[20:46:21] <Sangar> also, what the hell am i supposed to think of this: http://openeye.openmods.info/crashes/4be8e441799dc06c2accf304d49fab3b

L1129[20:46:41] <Kilobyte> Sangar: you know what

L1130[20:47:42] <Sangar> hm?

L1131[20:48:01] <Kilobyte> lemme extract the javadocs

L1132[20:49:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: http://home.kilobyte22.de/sumdoc

L1133[20:49:53] <Kilobyte> err

L1134[20:49:57] <Kilobyte> Sangar: http://home.kilobyte22.de:8080/sumdoc

L1135[20:50:18] <Kilobyte> aaaaand its not working

L1136[20:50:24] <Sangar> yup

L1137[20:50:31] * Kilobyte blames dns

L1138[20:50:51] <Kilobyte> $ curl ifconfig.me

L1139[20:50:51] <Kilobyte> 93.232.11.30

L1140[20:50:52] <Kilobyte> there

L1141[20:51:37] <Sangar> nope

L1142[20:51:41] <Sangar> neither with nor without port

L1143[20:51:53] <Kilobyte> works for me

L1144[20:52:11] * Kilobyte blames shitty router

L1145[20:52:21] <Kilobyte> http://93.232.11.30:8080/sumdoc/ works for me

L1146[20:52:51] <Sangar> ohwow

L1147[20:52:55] <Sangar> it needs the trailing slash

L1148[20:53:30] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw, the code conventions

L1149[20:53:36] <Sangar> ugh. i never liked non-english class/variable/etc names

L1150[20:53:39] <Kilobyte> parameter: pName

L1151[20:53:44] <Sangar> ...

L1152[20:53:50] <Sangar> i see

L1153[20:53:53] <Sangar> yeahno

L1154[20:53:57] <Kilobyte> instance var: zName (z for Zustand)

L1155[20:54:06] <Kilobyte> alternative hatName

L1156[20:54:21] <Sangar> "Bernard Schriek"... Schriek. that seems fitting, at least.

L1157[20:54:27] <Kilobyte> indeed

L1158[20:54:37] <Kilobyte> Sangar: side note, its a propiatary lib

L1159[20:54:43] <Kilobyte> and the docs are not online.

L1160[20:54:51] <Kilobyte> you need to download the lib to get the docs

L1161[20:54:56] <Sangar> well, otherwise they couldn't pretend other would want to use it!

L1162[20:55:02] <Sangar> *others

L1163[20:55:12] <Sangar> ah well

L1164[20:55:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: check package sum.werkzeuge

L1165[20:55:34] <Sangar> ...

L1166[20:55:49] <Sangar> no

L1167[20:55:50] <Sangar> just

L1168[20:55:50] <Sangar> no

L1169[20:56:17] <Kilobyte> Sangar: oh neat they have helpers to compare numbers

L1170[20:56:25] <Kilobyte> how... unique

L1171[20:57:16] <Sangar> i've seen enough, back to doing something more sensible, like smacking my head against the wall or something

L1172[20:58:02] <Kilobyte> Sangar: \o/ i did my job

L1173[20:58:15] <Kilobyte> i had to work with that 3 fucking years in school

L1174[20:58:26] <Sangar> how are you still sa-- ooooh, ok.

L1175[20:59:22] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i avoided contact with it

L1176[20:59:37] <Kilobyte> like, i didn't use the tools package once in those 3 years

L1177[20:59:50] <Sangar> well done

L1178[21:01:49] <Kilobyte> Sangar: it has a shitty gui editor

L1179[21:02:05] <Kilobyte> only issue: it generates an entire project from one gui

L1180[21:02:10] <Sangar> -.-

L1181[21:02:17] <Kilobyte> using it with projects with > 1 gui is a pain

L1182[21:02:37] <Kilobyte> we (my ground, the only 2 sane people) ended up hand writing the gui code

L1183[21:02:59] <Kilobyte> was just less painful to change the gui later on

L1184[21:03:18] <Kilobyte> plus, when using 10 buttons with almost same logic we had the advantage of an array

L1185[21:03:30] <Sangar> hehe

L1186[21:04:01] <Kilobyte> in the end we had to implement a card game in java

L1187[21:04:15] <Kilobyte> we had real fun :D

L1188[21:04:23] <Kilobyte> and yes, english code

L1189[21:04:57] <Kilobyte> with localization (aka that program can run in english and german. and you can add more languages)

L1190[21:05:09] <Sangar> nice

L1191[21:05:50] <Sangar> we had to write settlers of catan (with networking) in groups of 5-6, that was... fun. we were actually forced to hand-write the gui for that...

L1192[21:06:37] <Kilobyte> Sangar: inb4 webkit gui

L1193[21:06:54] <Kilobyte> what lang?

L1194[21:07:23] <Sangar> thing was, me and a friend finished that in the first two weeks where it was still 2-3 person groups with smaller 'intro projects' (like game of life, chat program, ...). and also had the two addons implemented >_>

L1195[21:07:24] <Sangar> java

L1196[21:07:43] <Sangar> so that was kind of a problem for them :P

L1197[21:07:59] <Sangar> so we ended up as pseudo-sub-tutors for one of the big groups :D

L1198[21:08:13] <Kilobyte> i'd have liked to work on that project with you

L1199[21:08:20] <Kilobyte> would prob have learned a lot

L1200[21:09:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar: what do you think about javas serialization lib

L1201[21:09:26] <Sangar> it was fun. i did most of the gui, friend most of the networking (socket based because that made sense, but an alternative rmi layer because that's what they wanted :P), and half/half on the game logic

L1202[21:09:40] <Kilobyte> rmi?

L1203[21:09:46] <Sangar> remote method invocation

L1204[21:10:01] <Kilobyte> heh

L1205[21:10:04] <Sangar> which, at least at that time simply didn't work via internet, only in local network

L1206[21:10:32] <Kilobyte> reminds me of Inspircd. The ircd which cannot link to any other server without a module (its shipped by default though)

L1207[21:10:35] <Sangar> serialization lib: haven't used it much, so not much i could build an opinion on.

L1208[21:10:37] <Kilobyte> epic ircd though

L1209[21:10:52] <Sangar> hah

L1210[21:11:00] <Kilobyte> anyways, i haven't seen an ircd thats as modular

L1211[21:11:16] <Sangar> brb

L1212[21:11:19] <Kilobyte> originally developed for the ChatSpike net

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L1217[21:31:15] <v^> so

L1218[21:31:47] <Kilobyte> different

L1219[21:43:59] <istasi> \o

L1220[21:48:06] <idealcoder> Is event.listen() meant to call the function multiple times?

L1221[21:48:18] <istasi> idealcoder, no

L1222[21:48:24] <idealcoder> must be my code :)

L1223[21:48:34] <istasi> however, openos doesn't remove already registered events on program termination

L1224[21:48:59] <istasi> so if you bind it multiply times but never remove it, it'll "register" multiply times, despite you only bind it once per run

L1225[21:49:07] <idealcoder> thx

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L1227[21:57:29] <idealcoder> could I write 'event.listen("modem_message", nil) 'at the end of the program to unbind it? thx

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L1229[21:57:41] <istasi> event.ignore

L1230[21:57:48] <idealcoder> oh, k

L1231[21:57:48] <istasi> check out that function

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L1234[22:13:15] <istasi> any way that i can 'count' the amount within a block?

L1235[22:13:33] <istasi> mmh, not within a block, but within an area

L1236[22:14:01] <gamax92> What is 10.21 - 10.2

L1237[22:16:03] <istasi> 0.01? -.-

L1238[22:16:10] <gamax92> .l 10.21 - 10.2

L1239[22:16:11] <^v> gamax92, 0.010000000000002

L1240[22:16:13] <gamax92> istasi: ^

L1241[22:16:54] <gamax92> old versions of windows calculator suffer from that as well

L1242[22:17:01] <istasi> floats -.-

L1243[22:17:08] <gamax92> doubles

L1244[22:17:08] <idealcoder> putting server racks next to each other seems to create multiple broadcast messages.

L1245[22:17:15] <idealcoder> any way this can be avoided?

L1246[22:17:47] <istasi> gam, same issue different size variable

L1247[22:18:36] <gamax92> no not really

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L1252[22:55:36] <Kodos> Are there any furniture mods besides Jammy's and Crayfish

L1253[22:56:05] <Kodos> Or anything really good decoration mods in general

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L1255[23:14:18] <JoshTheEnder> Kodos, carpenter's blocks for decoration stuff

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