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L1[00:00:08] <Xilandro> Wife buys Minecraft, has had her skin picked out for a week
L2[00:00:20] <Xilandro> And it's telling her that she needs to purchase the game to change her skin
L3[00:00:27] <Xilandro> When I just logged her into an online-mode server
L4[00:00:40] <Xilandro> So I know it's recognized that she's purchased it
L5[00:02:28] <gjgfuj> I think the website probably didn't pick up that she's purchased it.
L6[00:02:54] <gjgfuj> You may need to give it a few days or so to change the skin.
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L8[00:05:05] <Xilandro> Actually, I'm not 100% sure the server she was on was in online mode, it was a random public server I found on Google
L9[00:05:13] <Xilandro> I'd have to have someone host a server that I knew was in online mode
L10[00:05:19] <gamax92> Xilandro: hi
L11[00:05:29] <gamax92> I'm a someone
L12[00:05:42] <Xilandro> Wanna fire up a vanilla server long enough for her to test?
L13[00:05:58] <gjgfuj> You could fire up a server if you want.
L14[00:06:01] <v^> >_>
L15[00:06:04] <v^> fire
L16[00:06:04] <gamax92> well, yeah that as well
L17[00:06:05] <v^> FIRE
L18[00:06:08] <v^> DOWN
L19[00:06:09] <v^> A SERVER
L20[00:06:14] <gamax92> Xilandro: latest mc version?
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L22[00:06:19] <Xilandro> Yes, but I'm lazy and cba to find the server jar
L23[00:06:24] <v^> gamax92, latest = snapshot
L24[00:06:25] <Xilandro> gamax92, anything will do, she's using MultiMC
L25[00:07:42] <gamax92> :| eula's
L26[00:08:04] <Xilandro> gamax92, 1.6.4
L27[00:08:08] <Xilandro> That doesn't have the nonsense
L28[00:08:15] <gamax92> Xilandro: well, 75.70.114.152:25565
L29[00:08:18] <gamax92> 1.7.10
L30[00:08:44] <Xilandro> Okay, give me a sec
L31[00:09:13] <Techokami> radars can see players now! :D But not robots. Hmm.
L32[00:09:34] <Techokami> I should split out the radar scanning logic to a util class...
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L36[00:12:47] <Xilandro> She's all kinds of excited now lol
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L47[00:39:01] <Techokami> just need to do some testing now. I've reworked the radar, it now detects all players, mobs, and robots. You can also selectively scan for one of those three groups as well.
L48[00:39:49] <Techokami> OR IT SHOULD >:|
L49[00:41:37] <Techokami> well this is kind of annoying but I'll leave it for now.
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L51[00:45:03] <gamax92> oi Techokami
L52[00:45:07] <Techokami> ahoy
L53[00:45:25] <gamax92> Techokami: do you like figuring out formats of files?
L54[00:45:45] <Techokami> when I'm bored and it is the obstacle between me and sweet sweet loot
L55[00:46:05] <gamax92> :/
L56[00:46:12] <gamax92> fine, what ever.
L57[00:46:16] <Techokami> sorries
L58[00:53:10] <gamax92> Techokami: I can pay you 0$
L59[00:53:20] <Techokami> heh
L60[00:55:08] <gamax92> Techokami: do you want to write a program at the very least? I have everything said program should do.
L61[00:55:44] <Techokami> I'm currently working on Computronics, but it's getting late and I didn't get much sleep last night. Stupid hurricane...
L62[00:55:59] <Techokami> sorries :(
L63[00:56:10] <gamax92> Can I still give you the "what program should do"?
L64[00:56:15] <Techokami> okay
L65[00:56:24] <gamax92> Techokami: http://www.shikadi.net/moddingwiki/SkyRoads_compression
L66[00:57:12] <Techokami> aha
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L72[01:25:25] <PKIsAsleep> Morning o/
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L74[01:26:53] <gamax92> PsychokenesisKat: evening.
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L79[02:04:11] <gamax92> .l 182100 * 49700 / 1000
L80[02:04:11] <^v> gamax92, 9050370
L81[02:04:39] <Xilandro> Annnd involuntary nap is thus concluded
L82[02:05:02] <gamax92> .l 182100 * 49.700 * 4
L83[02:05:02] <^v> gamax92, 36201480
L84[02:05:24] <gamax92> welp, thats correct
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L89[02:50:51] * Xilandro wonders who all here is briish
L90[02:55:32] <gjgfuj> Briish?
L91[02:57:52] <Xilandro> Yeah, you know, british, except the t is in the boston harbor
L92[02:57:56] <Xilandro> \o/
L93[02:58:00] * Xilandro sees himself out
L94[03:00:11] <gamax92> .-.
L95[03:00:14] <gamax92> Xilandro: bored
L96[03:02:57] <ds84182> Who wants to see my dirt block?!
L97[03:03:35] <PsychokenesisKat> Does it time travel?
L98[03:03:40] <gamax92> Yes
L99[03:03:46] <ds84182> <~+,^C)z!!%/)b72<R$q+#\g7X-jgc0:D$5+ZOOUD>cm3')=?'$984bh(pg0K3J1\M==0WqVBD-bk@Zc?Y2/GZHh_bZe8jY:*1hYYnP4PhSh-4KS*Rm!.V]Y\Ec74ta\3RCi?q5]gmM-#+g?I]T[4?_#u\\=M:MY$8k)>Ch$9CaGP:\"*?f95:T>*Ghj([;a<r7%E#,u+@taIi>E8,=38c]X<oqgA70R5C^hkrI%)YE.<4mQ$n=pVD=]^8T6f"9\])~>
L100[03:03:52] <ds84182> Isn't it pretty?
L101[03:03:54] <gamax92> XD
L102[03:04:18] <gamax92> ds84182: wait, what about png's (masks? filters? not sure what its called)
L103[03:04:31] <ds84182> gamax92, the png takes up 266 bytes, the gxt takes up 264
L104[03:04:44] <gamax92> the filters are supposed to increase compression
L105[03:04:51] <ds84182> gamax92, I don't know of any filter craps
L106[03:05:11] <ds84182> I wonder what happens if I gzip the base85...
L107[03:06:15] <ds84182> nothing at all!
L108[03:07:22] <gamax92> ds84182: what if you bzip the rgba
L109[03:07:40] <ds84182> Does java have BZip streams?
L110[03:08:09] <gamax92> you'd need a library to do it
L111[03:08:13] <ds84182> Ic
L112[03:11:02] <ds84182> gamax92, It's smaller :D
L113[03:11:09] <ds84182> 234
L114[03:11:10] <ds84182> bytes
L115[03:11:24] <ds84182> I did it via command line this time
L116[03:11:25] <gamax92> ds84182: you found a library?
L117[03:11:27] <gamax92> oh
L118[03:11:38] <ds84182> The library that has it comes with MC
L119[03:11:44] <gamax92> ah cool
L120[03:12:03] <ds84182> I just need to get it for my image converter code
L121[03:12:21] <ds84182> but it compresses 1kb into 234 bytes
L122[03:12:41] <gamax92> ds84182: mind sending me the raw uncompressed file?
L123[03:12:49] <gamax92> you can just base64 it if necessary
L124[03:14:59] <ds84182> gamax92, I'll send it in a sec
L125[03:15:24] <ds84182> or you can get ascii85 from your package manager and reverse the dirt block I pasted
L126[03:16:33] *** vifino is now known as vifino|off
L127[03:16:33] <ds84182> cat dirt.gxt | ascii85 -d | gzip -d > dirt.gxtunc
L128[03:16:53] <gamax92> ah okay
L129[03:17:09] <ds84182> cat dirt.gxtunc | <compression thing here> | ascii85 > dirt.gxt
L130[03:17:28] *** vifino|off is now known as vifino|away
L131[03:18:17] <gamax92> got it
L132[03:18:22] <ds84182> yay
L133[03:19:23] <PsychokenesisKat> "OpenTTD is officially supported on the following operating systems. *BSD, especially FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD Linux Solaris Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP/Vista/7" Go Unix!
L134[03:20:01] <ds84182> "OpenTTD is officially NOT supported on the following operating systems. *BSD, especially FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD Linux Solaris Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP/Vista/7" Go Unix!
L135[03:20:08] <ds84182> *Die Unix!
L136[03:21:48] <PsychokenesisKat> You /monster/!
L137[03:22:24] <gamax92> ds84182: hmm, bzip seems to work the best (well, for that test case.)
L138[03:22:32] <PsychokenesisKat> Sure, I don't support Windoze, but I don't want it to die, I'd lose my technical superiority
L139[03:22:34] <gamax92> tried gzip, bzip2, lzma, xz
L140[03:33:20] <PsychokenesisKat> Damnit youtube, lego trains, every time.
L141[03:36:06] <gamax92> ?_?
L142[03:36:16] <gamax92> good, JoshTheEnder is ded
L143[03:36:36] <PsychokenesisKat> Whenever I go on youtube, I get distracted by lego trains
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L146[04:16:20] <PsychokenesisKat> OpenTTD is fun :D
L147[04:20:53] <ds84182> .p
L148[04:20:54] <^v> Ping reply from ds84182 0.31s
L149[04:21:16] <ds84182> huh
L150[05:01:51] <Xilandro> .ping
L151[05:02:10] <PsychokenesisKat> Profit!
L152[05:03:21] <PsychokenesisKat> http://i.imgur.com/teOb5K7.png
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L156[05:06:01] <Vexatos> HAHA
L157[05:06:05] <Vexatos> Oh, that's funny
L158[05:06:26] <Xilandro> Wat
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L161[05:32:20] <gjgfuj> Whenever I play openttd, I end up pwning the entire map.
L162[05:32:42] <gjgfuj> Buses, until I can build planes, then planes all the way.
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L164[05:33:09] <PotatoTrumpet> :D
L165[05:33:14] <PotatoTrumpet> I'm back from the big D
L166[05:34:42] <PsychokenesisKat> PotatoTrumpet: Your forum avatar is from Dungeon Keeper.
L167[05:36:12] <PotatoTrumpet> Are you asking or stating?
L168[05:47:36] <PsychokenesisKat> Either.
L169[05:47:40] <PotatoTrumpet> Yes
L170[05:47:47] <PotatoTrumpet> I bought it off of GOG
L171[05:47:52] <PotatoTrumpet> came with it
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L173[05:49:04] <PsychokenesisKat> I just obtained a copy.
L174[05:50:46] <PsychokenesisKat> OH, so ships can't go up rivers without locks.
L175[05:50:56] <PsychokenesisKat> Damn I thought that was a genius plan
L176[05:53:48] <Xilandro> What game are you playing
L177[05:58:55] <PotatoTrumpet> your mom
L178[05:58:58] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L179[05:59:06] <PsychokenesisKat> OpenTTD
L180[05:59:09] <PotatoTrumpet> :D
L181[05:59:16] <PotatoTrumpet> I love that game
L182[05:59:38] <PsychokenesisKat> This is my first time playing
L183[05:59:48] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L184[06:00:35] <PsychokenesisKat> I can't even manage to make busses make money
L185[06:00:49] <PotatoTrumpet> Go look up some tuts
L186[06:01:03] <PotatoTrumpet> always start with coal to power plant train line
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L188[06:11:46] <PsychokenesisKat> omigodsteamtrain:D
L189[06:14:50] <PsychokenesisKat> real profit :D
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L191[06:21:43] <Xilandro> Does anyone have the latest version of Chisel for 1.6.4, preferably Fenn's fixed version
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L195[06:40:26] <PsychokenesisKat> PotatoTrumpet: Thanks yo your advice, I no longer have a loan :D
L196[06:40:35] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L197[06:40:41] * PotatoTrumpet eats PsychokenesisKat
L198[06:41:17] * istasi looks horified
L199[06:41:20] <PsychokenesisKat> I'm gonna leave the game in fast-forward for 10 minutes and then build a railway network
L200[06:41:27] <istasi> morning
L201[06:43:15] <Vexatos> My OC tutorial world is coming along very nicely <3
L202[06:43:16] <PsychokenesisKat> Actually, I think I'll watch another episode of Death Note
L203[06:44:08] <istasi> Its good, isn't it? :D
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L205[06:47:21] <PotatoTrumpet> Vexatos, Add a cow going in a circle in a minecart
L206[06:47:26] <PotatoTrumpet> people love that
L207[06:47:38] <Vexatos> True that
L208[06:48:00] <PotatoTrumpet> Don't forget to make it all day
L209[06:48:05] <Vexatos> Wow, chisel is such a lovely mod <3
L210[06:48:35] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9YQ4F/3cffe7960f.png
L211[06:50:32] <PotatoTrumpet> What texture pack?
L212[06:51:44] <Bizzycola> 63.5s ping
L213[06:51:46] *** Cazzar is now known as Cazzar|Away
L214[06:51:51] <Bizzycola> not bad.. :p
L215[06:51:59] <PotatoTrumpet> .ping
L216[06:51:59] <^v> Ping reply from PotatoTrumpet 0.38s
L217[06:52:14] * PotatoTrumpet shoves his ping number in Bizzycola's face
L218[06:52:49] <Bizzycola> 30..bit better
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L220[06:56:21] <Vexatos> PotatoTrumpet: Vanilla
L221[06:56:23] <Vexatos> :3
L222[06:56:31] <PotatoTrumpet> :O
L223[06:56:56] <PotatoTrumpet> Hey, anyone else like Vitamin String Quartet?
L224[07:00:10] <Vexatos> PotatoTrumpet: Will that suffice? http://gfycat.com/CorruptAstonishingCopperbutterfly
L225[07:00:41] <PotatoTrumpet> YES!
L226[07:00:55] * PotatoTrumpet breaks into Vexatos home and hugs it
L227[07:00:57] <PsychokenesisKat> awesome pic
L228[07:01:15] <Vexatos> It's not a circle
L229[07:01:19] <Vexatos> Circles are boring
L230[07:01:28] <PotatoTrumpet> :D
L231[07:01:34] <Vexatos> this is (going to be) my OpenComputers wiki world, never thing simple
L232[07:01:41] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L233[07:01:50] <Vexatos> When sangar sets up a wiki, I'll write all the pages
L234[07:01:55] <Vexatos> About everything :3
L235[07:02:16] <Vexatos> I already chose 3 plugins he needs to install
L236[07:02:30] <Vexatos> so I can embed gfys :3
L237[07:02:39] <Vexatos> Will be nice for things like the hologram projector
L238[07:02:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Hmmm
L239[07:02:50] <PotatoTrumpet> mmmm
L240[07:03:49] <PotatoTrumpet> mmmmm.
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L243[07:05:00] <PsychokenesisKat> Yay, 116k money :D
L244[07:05:04] * PotatoTrumpet goes to make a OC World
L245[07:05:26] * PotatoTrumpet scraps that idea
L246[07:11:33] *** justastranger|zzz is now known as justastranger
L247[07:12:31] <PotatoTrumpet> o/
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L249[07:17:29] <istasi> \o asie
L250[07:17:35] <asie> \o
L251[07:17:36] <asie> o/
L252[07:18:00] <istasi> \o/
L253[07:18:01] <Vexatos> PotatoTrumpet: I could even improve it a little
L254[07:18:29] <Vexatos> http://gfycat.com/FrigidDirtyEeve
L255[07:20:44] <asie> Vexatos: so i herd you liek tape drives
L256[07:20:49] <asie> so i put tape drives in your inventory
L257[07:20:53] <asie> so you can tape drive while you inventory
L258[07:20:54] <asie> :)
L259[07:21:01] <asie> next week i plan to let 0.5.0 out of the bag
L260[07:21:03] <Vexatos> \O/
L261[07:21:21] <Vexatos> Let the inventory thing have the same GUI as the tape drive
L262[07:21:28] <asie> radars, chat box upgrades, portable tape drives, NedoComputers API support for hipster cred
L263[07:21:33] <Vexatos> And play the music client-side only
L264[07:21:41] <asie> "client-side only"
L265[07:21:43] <asie> it has to stream it anyway
L266[07:21:46] <Vexatos> Yea
L267[07:21:47] <asie> in other words, a GIANT refactor is required
L268[07:21:51] <asie> but I know how to do it mostly
L269[07:21:52] <Vexatos> Have fun xD
L270[07:21:55] <Vexatos> radars?
L271[07:21:56] <Vexatos> Yea
L272[07:22:01] <Vexatos> OC is really lacking those
L273[07:22:12] <asie> yeah
L274[07:22:15] <asie> Techokami is doing radars
L275[07:22:19] <Vexatos> Actually, I thought about something like radars 5 minutes ago
L276[07:22:21] <asie> I'm doing the portable tape drives and NedoComputers
L277[07:22:24] <asie> and chat box upgrades are done
L278[07:22:27] <Vexatos> Because I want an OC-controlled door .-.
L279[07:22:32] <asie> Vexatos: Techokami planned them for a week or two
L280[07:22:36] <asie> I still prefer RFID cards
L281[07:22:41] <asie> and I am considering asking immibis to just take over his mod
L282[07:22:45] <asie> and integrate it to Computronics
L283[07:22:49] <Vexatos> Would be awesome
L284[07:22:58] <Vexatos> RFID cards would really fit into Computronics
L285[07:23:01] <Vexatos> And the magnet things
L286[07:23:03] <asie> I have a 1.7.2/1.7.10 port out, tho
L287[07:23:10] <Vexatos> Then do 1.7.10
L288[07:23:13] <Vexatos> Then ask immibis
L289[07:23:20] * justastranger waves
L290[07:23:24] <Vexatos> for 0.6.0 having immibis' periphs xD
L291[07:23:32] <asie> Vexatos: 0.4.x already works on 1.7.10
L292[07:23:34] <asie> just update your AsieLib
L293[07:23:49] <asie> anyway, AFK
L294[07:24:42] <justastranger> hmm, Distant Lands in Morrowind don't seem quite... solid... http://puu.sh/9YRIv.png
L295[07:27:47] * istasi wonders how the devil filesystem:write () works -.-'
L296[07:28:43] <istasi> for i=1,10 do print ( computer.freeMemory () ) f:write ('test') print (computer.freeMemory () ) end, it drops like 20k per write, 10k until next, this uses ~100kb alone until gc comes and clean up shit
L297[07:28:47] <justastranger> magic man
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L299[07:32:22] <istasi> actually drops lower than that even -.-
L300[07:32:30] <istasi> meh
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L302[07:40:28] <istasi> such GC abuse, sigh -.-
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L305[07:48:39] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9YSJX/118aa7dfc8.png \o/
L306[07:49:23] <istasi> pretty ^^
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L314[08:23:01] <Kodos|Tablet> o/
L315[08:23:48] <Dean4Devil> o/
L316[08:24:06] <Dean4Devil> http://imgur.com/0TbilCL :3
L317[08:24:53] <Kodos|Tablet> oooh nice
L318[08:26:07] <Vexatos> Sangar.....
L319[08:26:13] <Vexatos> .-.
L320[08:26:14] <Vexatos> D.<
L321[08:26:53] <PsychokenesisKat> Verry nice, Dean4Devil
L322[08:27:06] <Dean4Devil> ty :3
L323[08:27:25] <PsychokenesisKat> PSA: Third person hour in 4 hours 33 minutes
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L325[08:28:13] <asie> Techokami|Off: cleaned up the radar code
L326[08:31:05] <Kodos|Tablet> radar?
L327[08:31:21] <asie> OC entity detection!
L328[08:31:39] <Kodos|Tablet> computronics or standalone
L329[08:31:48] <Vexatos> asie: Can it return a player name?
L330[08:31:57] <Kodos|Tablet> ^
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L332[08:32:55] <asie> Vexatos: yes
L333[08:32:57] <asie> Kodos|Tablet: computronics
L334[08:32:57] <Kodos|Tablet> \o/
L335[08:33:03] <Kodos|Tablet> x2
L336[08:33:52] <Kodos|Tablet> Will be back at my pc in a bit
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L338[08:37:08] <asie> >default radar range: 32
L339[08:37:12] <asie> >default RFID range: 5
L340[08:37:16] <asie> radars will need serious balancing measures
L341[08:37:23] <asie> also some Computronics stuff will begin requiring power
L342[08:37:26] <asie> most notably chat boxes, cameras and radars
L343[08:37:40] <asie> (unless you set ignorePower in OC or set the power requirements to 0, that is)
L344[08:37:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Gmm
L345[08:38:00] <asie> Ghh
L346[08:38:12] <PotatoTrumpet> Should I make a storage system with App. Energestics?
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L349[08:45:51] <gjgfuj> asie: Where do I find a wiki for computronics?
L350[08:47:44] <PsychokenesisKat> http://mc.shinonome.ch iirc
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L352[08:51:18] <Xilandro> Hopefully Asie remembered that components can be powered through cable
L353[08:51:27] <Xilandro> Unless they meant powered externally
L354[08:52:05] <Vexatos> asie: That sounds nice
L355[08:52:20] <Vexatos> Make radars Tier 3, i.e. require t3 microchips
L356[08:52:35] <Xilandro> asie quit
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L358[08:52:46] <Vexatos> Aww
L359[08:54:28] <Xilandro> Which version of OC is less busted atm, 1.7 or 1.6
L360[08:55:40] <istasi> in lua, how can i you know, do like this, term.setCursor ( {1,2} ), is that table.unpack ?
L361[08:57:01] <istasi> nvm -.-
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L363[09:01:19] <Sangar> o/
L364[09:01:27] <istasi> hai \o
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L366[09:01:46] <Kodos> o/
L367[09:02:52] <istasi> sangar, i figured something with filesystem:write (), why it acted so wierd with buffer ... for i=1,10 do file:write('test') end .. uses ~100kb if you print (computer.freeMemory ()), ofcourse gc clears it all up once it gets too low.
L368[09:05:10] <Kodos> °͜°
L369[09:06:16] <istasi> dat smile (thought he had something on his screen)
L370[09:07:15] <Sangar> so it's not really using that much, the gc just didn't run yet, is that what you're saying?
L371[09:09:13] <istasi> i dunno what im saying, it just seems like, i cant determine when to flush to file depending on what freeMemory is reporting, since its not really the "correct" image its giving me.
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L373[09:12:03] <Sangar> have you tried what i suggested last time? i.e. take multiple samples to give the gc a chance to run? (mem = math.huge, for i=1,10 do mem=math.min(mem, computer.freeMemory()) os.sleep(0) end print(mem))
L374[09:14:12] <istasi> Yes, but any amount of os.sleep(0) slows it down alot more than what i'd like ... instead just gonna do one freeMemory (), then check buffer size against that, instead of doing it 'live' since that number flux like crazy
L375[09:18:36] <Sangar> ofc it does ;) i was suggesting that just for testing to see if *actually* uses that much memory
L376[09:19:00] <justastranger> so uhh
L377[09:19:13] <justastranger> Is the Not Enough Mods link for 1.7.10 "official"?
L378[09:19:50] <justastranger> Because it's giving fingerprint mismatches
L379[09:22:09] <Sangar> dunno what it's linking to, but if it's the dropbox folder that'l linked in the forums post, then sorta, yes. i have to build 1.7.10 on my local machine because of a scala compiler issue in 1.7.10 and didn't have the keystore at hand :P thanks for reminding me. i'll rebuild them with signing later.
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L382[09:45:01] <Kodos> Question : http://puu.sh/9YY2q/79d69c5074.txt
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L384[09:47:14] <PsychokenesisKat> What mod adds the thingamajig?
L385[09:47:15] <PotatoTrumpet> test test 156
L386[09:47:23] <PotatoTrumpet> I love thingamajigs
L387[09:47:35] <Kodos> >.> Nothing.... yet...
L388[09:47:42] <Kodos> It's pseudocode, mostly
L389[09:47:52] <PotatoTrumpet> Kodos, hows KMatter Koming along?
L390[09:48:06] * PotatoTrumpet sees what he did there
L391[09:48:41] <Kodos> K-Matter is dead, pending a time where I can be bothered to set up a workspace for 1.7 with OC in it
L392[09:49:12] <PsychokenesisKat> It turns out sailing ships refitted for oil can be worth 12k on a reasonably sized run.
L393[09:49:21] <PotatoTrumpet> :O
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L395[09:49:31] <PotatoTrumpet> What mod are you using?
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L397[09:49:55] <PsychokenesisKat> I think it's called sailing ships
L398[09:50:00] <PsychokenesisKat> Just search for sail
L399[09:50:06] <PsychokenesisKat> And it has to be before 1890
L400[09:50:39] <PsychokenesisKat> I don't need no loan any more :D
L401[09:51:10] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L402[09:51:20] <PotatoTrumpet> Aint no body got money for dat
L403[09:51:34] * PotatoTrumpet came in like a wrecking ball
L404[09:51:37] <PsychokenesisKat> 1862, got 100k and I don't have a loan.
L405[09:52:49] <PsychokenesisKat> I get roughly 30k a year from my ships :D
L406[09:53:53] <PsychokenesisKat> PotatoTrumpet: http://i.imgur.com/d4ZiVYH.png
L407[09:55:47] <PsychokenesisKat> Just added a 4th ship to my fleet, getting oil from another place.
L408[09:56:28] <PotatoTrumpet> :/
L409[09:56:34] <PotatoTrumpet> I have set up a pass. sevice
L410[09:57:24] <PotatoTrumpet> In a little bay
L411[09:59:04] <PsychokenesisKat> I went for a map with a lot of water so I could use ships considering that in 1850 there were no trucks or trains (apparently)
L412[10:01:33] <robhol> fucking adf.ly -.- why do people insist on causing this much annoyance for pennies
L413[10:01:45] <Kodos> I kind of want to make a language within Lua that operates like LSL
L414[10:02:09] <Kodos> Or even do a custom computer for it
L415[10:06:28] <robhol> LSL?
L416[10:08:34] <Kodos> It's the programming language used in Second Life
L417[10:08:37] <Kodos> Linden Scripting Language
L418[10:08:53] <Kodos> It's loosely based on Java and C, but it is what's called 'State-based'
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L421[10:09:26] <Kodos> For example, I have a gambling script, with waiting, playing, loser, and winner states
L422[10:10:47] <SKSPhone> Is it based on russian roulette?
L423[10:10:58] <Kodos> No, it's rather simple actually
L424[10:11:13] <Kodos> Basically you pay the game exactly 10 Lindens (The currency for SL)
L425[10:11:26] <Kodos> It does some aesthetic stuff, and then it turns green if you win, or red if you lose
L426[10:11:38] <Kodos> If you pay it anything but 10L, it refunds it
L427[10:12:01] <Kodos> The pot starts at 50L, and goes up by I wanna say 3L every time someone loses
L428[10:12:09] <Kodos> When you win, you get whatever the current pot is
L429[10:12:14] <SKSPhone> My favourite version has a pool of sharks under the game, and if you lose you get thrown in, and your items collected
L430[10:12:27] <Kodos> Lol
L431[10:12:44] <SKSPhone> Great for arcades.
L432[10:12:44] <Kodos> Honestly, you could do that in MC with redstone, trapdoors, Mo Creature's pirahnas and hoppers
L433[10:12:51] <SKSPhone> Yep.
L434[10:13:12] <Kodos> If I could be bothered to dick with IDs, I'd probably add Mo Creatures to my main pack
L435[10:13:56] <SKSPhone> I'm going to add Mo Creatures to my pack, as a squid there is no danger atm.
L436[10:14:03] <Kodos> lol
L437[10:14:13] <Kodos> Fuck it, let me get an NEI dump
L438[10:14:38] <SKSPhone> Also, someone can play shark.
L439[10:14:49] <SKSPhone> da-dum
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L441[10:15:20] <Kodos> Hey fuck you, when I was little my parents had to take me to the hospital to have them drug me to get sleep after I stayed up for a week because I didn't want to have nightmares of that shit
L442[10:16:38] <PotatoTrumpet> Did you have a nightmare?
L443[10:17:01] <SKSPhone> Wow, hardcore. Just to re-assure you, you are more likley to die of falling coconuts or vending machines
L444[10:17:58] <SKSPhone> :)
L445[10:18:13] <PotatoTrumpet> Mostly vending machines
L446[10:18:19] <PotatoTrumpet> those evil little monsters
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L448[10:19:04] <Kodos> I didn't have a nightmare, but
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L450[10:19:24] <Kodos> After we were at the hopital for 3 hours, they discharged me (I was still out cold during discharge)
L451[10:19:33] <Kodos> My parents took me home, and I ended up sleeping for 3 days
L452[10:19:50] <Kodos> A combination of the medicine they gave me, and the fact that I hadn't slept in a week
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L454[10:21:16] <Dean4Devil> http://imgur.com/SWDMUfI Nuclear Power room finished :3
L455[10:23:02] <PsychokenesisKat> 702k moneys, beat that PotatoTrumpet
L456[10:23:38] <PsychokenesisKat> Nice looking Dean4Devil, my generators are usually just some random wires and crap in my basement.
L457[10:24:14] <Dean4Devil> I may or may not make a video showing all of it in action as soon as its finished ;)
L458[10:26:03] <PsychokenesisKat> Have you ever had the misfortune of seeing one of my survival computer rooms?
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L460[10:27:09] <PsychokenesisKat> I usually start with a building someone else has moved out of (or was pre-generated), fix it up, put some solars on the roof, and the interior is just some crazy wires and computers
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L463[10:36:23] <asie> hi
L464[10:47:42] <PsychokenesisKat> o/
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L466[10:54:35] <Dean4Devil> PsychokenesisKat: 3rd Person hour in 0x1h, 0x??m
L467[10:57:48] <PsychokenesisKat> TPH 0x03 hours 0x03 minutes
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L470[11:06:37] <PsychokenesisKat> Muahahaha, moneys are sustainable :D
L471[11:07:07] <JoshTheEnder> i read that as monkeys are sustainable
L472[11:07:44] <PsychokenesisKat> Sustainable is un-sustainable
L473[11:09:08] <Kilobyte> JoshTheEnder: so did i
L474[11:09:28] <Kilobyte> in fact, it took me 30 secs at least to figure out the diff
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L477[11:14:04] * Kodos is beginning work on a state-based program
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L479[11:22:44] * Kilobyte should continue work on his editor
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L482[11:28:55] <Kodos> Bleh, idk what to make with this
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L484[11:33:02] <Kilobyte> <3 my wrapper
L485[11:33:03] <Kilobyte> _(term.isAvailable() or os.exit(1))
L486[11:33:13] <Kilobyte> makes stuff much more compact
L487[11:33:40] <Kilobyte> because without that its no valid lua
L488[11:40:50] <JoshTheEnder> hmm, what to work on.... EnderBot2, LaserCraft or something else
L489[11:41:53] <robhol> Kilobyte: what's it do
L490[11:43:00] <robhol> also, I wanted to get a test world up and running, but opening my inventory instantly crashes. it's probably NEI related rather thn oc, but did anybody else have this issue?
L491[11:43:52] <robhol> 1.7.2 with latest recommended forge for that version, codechickencore, nei, oc and buildcraft are all I've got installed
L492[11:44:10] <Kodos> https://i.imgur.com/jJEyMrB.gif
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L494[11:48:36] <PsychokenesisKat> woo, 1.7 million moneys :D
L495[11:49:50] *** Kodos is now known as Kodos|Zzz
L496[11:50:04] <Kodos|Zzz> Will finish this stupid thing tomorrow, and figure out a use for it
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L503[12:11:31] <PsychokenesisKat> 10 million moneys :D
L504[12:11:39] *** Techokami|Off is now known as Techokami
L505[12:11:43] <JoshTheEnder> o/ Techokami
L506[12:12:19] <Kilobyte> robhol: _ does nothing :P
L507[12:12:32] <Kilobyte> it just allows me to do stuff i couldn't do otherwise
L508[12:12:45] <Kilobyte> term.isAvailable() or os.exit(1) is a syntax error
L509[12:12:47] <robhol> oh, instead of wrapping it in parentheses or something
L510[12:12:51] <Kilobyte> _(term.isAvailable() or os.exit(1)) isn't
L511[12:13:12] <Kilobyte> it is a short from of writing
L512[12:13:22] <Kilobyte> if not term.isAvailable() then os.exit(1) end
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L517[12:18:44] <JoshTheEnder> Raga_BuildCraftUrbanist, before you talk and cut into people's timestamps, may i ask that you shorten your name a bit?
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L519[12:24:21] <PsychokenesisKat> .l string.len("PyschokenesisKat")-string.len("JoshTheEnder")
L520[12:24:21] <^v> PsychokenesisKat, 4
L521[12:25:21] <Kilobyte> JoshTheEnder: for me thats no issue :P
L522[12:25:31] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, it still is for some
L523[12:25:43] <Kilobyte> if a nickname takes up one line the message goes to next line
L524[12:25:45] <Kilobyte> true
L525[12:26:35] <PsychokenesisKat> OpenIRC solves such issues.
L526[12:27:46] <JoshTheEnder> my nick bar autoexpands to fit long nicks in but it's a bit annoying if only one person has a long nick because it just leaves a massive gap that annoys me
L527[12:29:00] <PsychokenesisKat> OpenIRC solves such issues.
L528[12:29:34] <JoshTheEnder> yes but i dont feel like running minecraft just to use a client that resolves the issue
L529[12:29:54] <Kilobyte> my client has no nick bar
L530[12:30:03] <Kilobyte> nicks just get prepended to the message
L531[12:30:14] <Kilobyte> only 2 bars: timestamp and message
L532[12:30:18] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, what client are you using?
L533[12:30:21] <Kilobyte> kvirc
L534[12:30:31] <JoshTheEnder> hmm, i'm using hexchat
L535[12:30:49] <Kilobyte> yeah, i don't like hexchat
L536[12:30:58] <Kilobyte> sadly kvircs scripting language sucks
L537[12:31:09] <Kilobyte> its like the bastard child of bash and perl
L538[12:31:15] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L539[12:31:50] <JoshTheEnder> HexChat supports Perl and Python OotB but i think i remember a plugin that allowed it to do ruby
L540[12:32:04] <Kilobyte> i usually use weechat
L541[12:32:24] <Kilobyte> scriptable in lua, python, ruby, perl, tcl and scheme out of the box
L542[12:32:47] <Kilobyte> but atm it segfaults on launch
L543[12:32:54] <Kilobyte> because perl update broke it
L544[12:33:01] * Kilobyte cba to fix
L545[12:33:02] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L546[12:33:34] <Kilobyte> weechat is probably best client... even though its in beta
L547[12:33:46] <Kilobyte> 10 year beta :P
L548[12:35:53] <Kilobyte> someone got mc running atm and can test something for me?
L549[12:36:08] <JoshTheEnder> depending what it is i could fire it up
L550[12:36:19] <Raga_BuildCraftUrbanist> Yeah, I'm free.
L551[12:36:26] *** Raga_BuildCraftUrbanist is now known as Raga
L552[12:36:46] <Raga> Dangit. Sorry.
L553[12:36:51] <Kilobyte> on lua prompt
L554[12:36:56] <Raga> Didn't read what you said earlier, JoshTheEnder
L555[12:37:04] <Kilobyte> =os.getenv('HOME')
L556[12:37:17] <Raga> If I logout, will your client's timestamp go back to normal?
L557[12:37:22] <JoshTheEnder> no
L558[12:37:28] <Raga> Oh. Hmm. :P
L559[12:37:35] <JoshTheEnder> because irc doesnt work like that
L560[12:37:40] <Kilobyte> josh has to restart client
L561[12:37:49] <Kilobyte> or maybe /clear
L562[12:38:00] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, that still wouldnt do much unless i flushed my bouncer's buffers
L563[12:38:15] <Kilobyte> my bnc buffers get flushed whenever i send a message
L564[12:38:16] <Kilobyte> :P
L565[12:39:14] <JoshTheEnder> i had that for a while but got annoyed because i'd say something then either my phone/pc would crash and i wouldnt be able to see the message
L566[12:39:36] <Kilobyte> my computer/phone are more reliable :P
L567[12:40:31] <Techokami> Sangar, you around? I got a question about using the fake player capabilties of a robot.
L568[12:40:56] <JoshTheEnder> eh, phone is generally fine but a lot of data in the buffers being sent to it crashes AndroIRC (+ my phone only ever seems to have like 128MB of ram free)
L569[12:40:58] <Sangar> Techokami, yes?
L570[12:41:09] <Techokami> I've been working on a radar block for Computronics
L571[12:41:20] <Techokami> I want it to detect players, mobs, and robots
L572[12:41:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ohai
L573[12:41:30] <Techokami> I got the first two working perfectly
L574[12:41:32] <Sangar> hi Kilobyte
L575[12:41:56] <Techokami> BUT how do I see the robots? I tried using the function that returns an EntityPlayer but that doesn't seem to work
L576[12:41:58] <Sangar> Techokami, well, the fake players are no 'real' entities, so they're not in the entity list.
L577[12:42:13] <Techokami> that explains why my solution wasn't working
L578[12:42:18] <Sangar> you'd have to parse the tileentity list. which could be pretty bad for performance :P
L579[12:42:24] <Techokami> GRUH
L580[12:42:38] <Techokami> damnit
L581[12:42:57] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw, working on v atm :P
L582[12:43:10] <Sangar> you could register for the robots' movement event and track all robots manually. and filter that list. might be more efficient.
L583[12:43:31] <Sangar> Kilobyte, cool. working on new toys atm :P
L584[12:43:42] <Techokami> might just scrap robot tracking :/
L585[12:43:47] <Sangar> yeah
L586[12:44:36] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i am a bit worried about text input D:
L587[12:44:52] <Kilobyte> since i pretty much have to implement it twice
L588[12:45:10] <Kilobyte> once for the command bar, once for the main editor
L589[12:45:10] <Sangar> oh?
L590[12:45:13] <Sangar> oh
L591[12:45:22] <PsychokenesisKat> oh!
L592[12:45:22] <Sangar> well, for command bar you could use io.read(), no?
L593[12:45:37] <Kilobyte> what if command gets longer than line length?
L594[12:45:46] <Sangar> it scrolls horizontally
L595[12:45:56] <Kilobyte> yes... the entire editor
L596[12:46:04] <Kilobyte> wait
L597[12:46:05] <Sangar> wot
L598[12:46:05] <Kilobyte> derp
L599[12:46:18] <Kilobyte> mixed up horizontally and vertically
L600[12:46:20] <Pontiac_AtWork> Anyone up for writing a new non-OC storage block?
L601[12:46:22] <Kilobyte> its fine then
L602[12:48:09] <Kilobyte> Sangar: .* doesn't match newline, does it?
L603[12:49:36] <Sangar> err, i dunno tbh
L604[12:51:00] <Kilobyte> apperently it does
L605[12:51:03] *** Alissa is now known as Alissaway
L606[12:51:28] <Kilobyte> > =("abc\ndef"):gmatch('[^\n]*')()
L607[12:51:28] <Kilobyte> abc
L608[12:51:29] <Kilobyte> this works
L609[12:54:05] <Vexatos> Sangar: That CSS style is so awesome
L610[12:54:08] <Vexatos> I love ot
L611[12:54:09] <Vexatos> *it
L612[12:54:10] <Vexatos> .-.
L613[12:54:41] <Sangar> for the wiki? yeah, i like it, too
L614[12:55:03] <Kilobyte> Sangar: now i need to find out how to find terminal size
L615[12:55:14] <Vexatos> Okay, let's get this contents page done, so I know what to put where
L616[12:55:20] <Kilobyte> i see nothing on term api docs
L617[12:55:41] <Sangar> Kilobyte, atm the term size is just the screen resolution (i.e. component.gpu.getResolution)
L618[12:56:02] <Kilobyte> argh.... /me adds size param to buffer
L619[12:56:33] <Sangar> i plan to overhaul the term at some point :P but meh
L620[12:58:25] <Kilobyte> hmm
L621[12:58:42] <Kilobyte> v-script needs callbacks for variable set
L622[12:59:07] <Vexatos> Sangar: Should the wiki page for the Redstone I/O be redstone_io or redstone_i_o ?
L623[12:59:15] <Vexatos> Or something different even
L624[13:01:16] <Sangar> dunno. redstone_io looks cleaner?
L625[13:01:29] <Kilobyte> yeah
L626[13:03:16] ⇨ Joins: asie (~asie@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl)
L627[13:04:03] <Vexatos> k
L628[13:04:17] <Vexatos> Progress: http://puu.sh/9Z7jS/1cbd282c2d.png
L629[13:04:54] <Vexatos> Should it be alphabetically sorted?
L630[13:05:55] *** alekso56_off is now known as alekso56
L631[13:09:04] <Vexatos> Also, Sangar: https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:pageredirect
L632[13:09:23] <Vexatos> For "hdd" to link to "hard_disk_drive" or vice-versa
L633[13:09:50] <Sangar> Vexatos, alphabetically is always good imho, and i'll add the plugin.
L634[13:10:05] <Vexatos> Do you prefer "HDD" as the website or the full name
L635[13:10:29] <JoshTheEnder> Sangar / Vexatos, link?
L636[13:10:43] <Vexatos> Not yet, Josh :3
L637[13:10:46] <Sangar> hmm, i think the 'main' name in game is the full name isn't it? i'd say let's stick to the names as they are ingame for the 'main' page name.
L638[13:10:48] <JoshTheEnder> :O
L639[13:10:59] <Vexatos> Sangar, okay
L640[13:11:06] <Vexatos> I can make "hdd" redirect then
L641[13:11:14] <Sangar> yep
L642[13:11:16] <Vexatos> same for "graphics card" and "GPU"
L643[13:11:37] * Sangar nods
L644[13:11:51] <Vexatos> There also needs to be one page where all the crafting components and their recipes are listed
L645[13:12:20] <Sangar> yeah, i guess that'd be nice to have.
L646[13:12:27] *** Raga is now known as Raga|AFK
L647[13:12:27] <Sangar> redirect plugin is installed
L648[13:12:42] <Vexatos> API documentation on the wiki isn't necessary, will be included in "contents" though, linking to all the github wiki pages
L649[13:12:55] <Vexatos> Or do you want to move those?
L650[13:13:44] <Sangar> i actually think yes. since i'm sure dokuwiki will allow styling it in a much more readable way than it is on gh now. well, in the long run.
L651[13:13:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: does term.write(text, false) cut off the text at end of line?
L652[13:13:59] <Sangar> Kilobyte, iirc yes
L653[13:17:23] ⇦ Quits: MichiBot (root@isis.pc-logix.com) (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
L654[13:17:35] <Vexatos> Sangar: Okay then
L655[13:17:43] <Vexatos> Wow, this is a huge table
L656[13:17:58] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9Z80W/8150335945.png
L657[13:18:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i think i might use raw gpu operations in some place for better performance lol
L658[13:18:30] <Kilobyte> like scolling
L659[13:18:35] <Sangar> wow... maybe it'd make sense to split this up into separate namespaces/categories and only show the relevant parts...
L660[13:18:37] *** Raga|AFK is now known as Raga
L661[13:19:00] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yes. guess what edit does :P
L662[13:19:05] <Kilobyte> yeah :P
L663[13:19:17] <Kilobyte> atm the buffer has no reference to the gpu though
L664[13:19:20] <Vexatos> Sangar: Well
L665[13:19:27] <Vexatos> APIs will be in api:something
L666[13:19:33] <Vexatos> Components in component:something
L667[13:19:42] <Vexatos> and tutorials in tutorial:something
L668[13:19:46] <Vexatos> those won't be in this table
L669[13:19:56] <Vexatos> Just the link to their "contents" page
L670[13:20:49] <Sangar> Vexatos, hmm, so if blocks: and items: were a thing, in each category the table could only show the "details" of the current category, and links to the other categories (but not pages in the other categories), maybe?
L671[13:21:28] <Kenny> Sangar: so far no issues with build 488
L672[13:21:30] <Vexatos> But that would be much more tedious to type then
L673[13:21:33] <Vexatos> (In the URL bar)
L674[13:21:34] <Vexatos> :3
L675[13:21:40] <Sangar> Kenny, glad to hear it! :)
L676[13:21:55] <JoshTheEnder> a wild Kenny appeared
L677[13:22:07] <Sangar> Vexatos, well, as long as the table isn't larger than the actual page content in most cases... :P
L678[13:22:27] <Vexatos> Why not?
L679[13:22:30] <Vexatos> xD
L680[13:22:32] <Kenny> and i have nearly every 'open' mod in the pack :)
L681[13:22:41] *** Cazzar|Away is now known as Cazzar
L682[13:22:41] <Vexatos> It just reminds the reader of "wow, this mod is HUGE"
L683[13:23:14] <Kenny> but a 1000 times better then the other computer mod hehe
L684[13:23:49] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny, dont you mean 1000^42?
L685[13:23:51] <JoshTheEnder> :P
L686[13:24:23] <asie> well
L687[13:24:32] <asie> i' mworking on adding suport for the ***two*** competing computer mods now
L688[13:24:40] <asie> NedoComputers (RP2-esque computers) and ComputerCraft (1.64pr3) now
L689[13:24:46] <asie> to Computronics
L690[13:25:03] <Vexatos> Well, neither are really competing
L691[13:25:27] <Vexatos> CC is educational, thus not even in the right league
L692[13:25:42] <Vexatos> And NedoComputers is extremely... well... FORTH
L693[13:26:21] <Kenny> why would you use a scientific language for programming a computer in a game
L694[13:26:37] <Pontiac_AtWork> Sangar, is it possible to have a computer have a storage container like a robot has?
L695[13:26:52] <Kenny> it does.....
L696[13:27:00] <Kenny> the HDD :P
L697[13:27:06] <Pontiac_AtWork> No, I mean ITEM storage.
L698[13:27:07] <Vexatos> I think this is a nice size: http://puu.sh/9Z8tm/8c8630e7b5.png
L699[13:27:35] <Kenny> Pontiac_AtWork: be serious. what irl computer has a storage container attached to it
L700[13:28:01] <Vexatos> <--
L701[13:28:04] <Pontiac_AtWork> What IRL robot has a storage container to it?... and hold for a link.
L702[13:28:10] <Vexatos> Mine has one
L703[13:28:14] <Vexatos> right on top of the CPU
L704[13:28:23] <Vexatos> So I can fry my beef while gaming
L705[13:28:27] <Pontiac_AtWork> https://www.google.ca/search?q=5.25+bay+storage+drawer&num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-a&hs=bFo&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7065U9nUCMTQsQSa8YGYDg&ved=0CB0QsAQ&biw=1920&bih=918
L706[13:29:07] <Sangar> Pontiac_AtWork, it would be possible.
L707[13:29:34] <Sangar> but not via an item added to the computer.
L708[13:29:44] <Kenny> but it's not part of the original computer.
L709[13:29:50] <Sangar> you'd have to write an addon that adds a computer that explicitly supports that :P
L710[13:30:40] <Pontiac_AtWork> Here's my issue;
L711[13:31:06] <Kenny> Sangar: idea. why not make the 2nd HDD slot in the computer a cd/dvd drive slot
L712[13:31:32] <Pontiac_AtWork> If you're familiar with Applied Energestics "Interface" block, you'll note that it has the capabilities of requesting X number of items and keeping it stored internally.
L713[13:32:03] <Kenny> it is storing 'digital' data, not physical
L714[13:32:31] <Kenny> the physical is stored in a container attached to the interface
L715[13:32:44] <Vexatos> Sangar: Check the main page
L716[13:32:47] <Vexatos> at the bottom :3
L717[13:32:56] <Pontiac_AtWork> Hey... AE has digital storage... Could some interface be written between a computer and the AE drive?
L718[13:33:13] <Kenny> the adapter block
L719[13:33:24] <Sangar> Kenny, because cds/dvds are just larger floppies, and hdds in oc are pretty much "removable media" anyway :P
L720[13:33:58] <Sangar> Vexatos, looks great!
L721[13:34:02] <Pontiac_AtWork> Will the adapter block handle moving items between different places?
L722[13:34:04] <Kenny> dang, i was looking at writing a cd player program
L723[13:34:17] <Kilobyte> plus cds/dvds are only writable once
L724[13:34:20] <robhol> well, they'd pretty much be single-write, wouldn't they
L725[13:34:28] <Vexatos> Sangar: Now adding all the necessary redirects
L726[13:34:28] <Sangar> and that
L727[13:34:28] <robhol> not sure why that'd be an advantage :3
L728[13:34:37] <Kenny> there are re-writable cds and dvds
L729[13:34:47] <robhol> yes, but then what's the point
L730[13:35:12] <Kilobyte> also, OC is mostly themed around a time where there were no cds/dvds
L731[13:35:27] <robhol> both from a usability and development perspective. They're just RW memory that takes ages to use :L I should know, I've transferred my share of files over CD-RW
L732[13:35:34] <Kenny> but i was looking more at basically combining the MC jukebox with the OC computer so you could play music through the computer
L733[13:35:48] <Vexatos> Sangar: You might want to change the style of the redirect message: http://puu.sh/9Z8Vj/cf2362a001.png
L734[13:35:50] <Sangar> as for the ae interface, ae is inherently item movement oriented, oc isn't :P and no the adapter can't push items out of or into inventory, exactly because that's not oc's job :P
L735[13:36:12] <Sangar> Vexatos, yikes. will do.
L736[13:36:43] <Kenny> Sangar, if the inventory method is there you can use a program to move an item from one spot to another
L737[13:36:53] <Sangar> yes
L738[13:36:57] <Sangar> but not into another inventory
L739[13:37:14] <Pontiac_AtWork> Sangar> Yeah, I understand that, but I'm trying to forumlate something that'll act like AEs interface to limit the number of items that are crafted and stored.
L740[13:37:33] <Vexatos> Also, you're still lacking a favicon, Sangar
L741[13:37:34] <PsychokenesisKat> http://www.tt-forums.net/files/firefox_over_ie_152.gif
L742[13:37:50] <Sangar> Pontiac_AtWork, sounds like something that should be an extra component block, no?
L743[13:38:21] <Sangar> Vexatos, its in there, must be your cache
L744[13:38:37] <Vexatos> Nope
L745[13:38:41] <Vexatos> Just cleared my cache
L746[13:38:56] <Pontiac_AtWork> I have to crush diamonds, which takes like 15 seconds each, and I need 20. AEs interface block will do the request, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a way to limit the number of world blocks to get the task done.
L747[13:38:57] <Sangar> it shows the favicon for me :/
L748[13:39:26] <Vexatos> Hmm
L749[13:39:36] <Vexatos> Now it shows for me as well
L750[13:39:37] <Vexatos> weird
L751[13:40:16] <Sangar> well yes. 'weird' is the inherent definition of browser caches.
L752[13:40:19] <Kenny> robhol: with re-writable cds and dvds we get a larger storage medium than a floppy( 4.7GB compared to 1.44MB )
L753[13:40:22] *** dsAway is now known as ds84182
L754[13:40:55] <Kenny> and, yes, i know that the floppy size is configurab'e
L755[13:41:01] <Vexatos> Oh, also going to steal all the item textures and uploading them to the wiki MWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
L756[13:41:02] <Sangar> but Kenny, in oc: floppy=512k, hdd1=1024k. that's a pretty small gap to fit cds/dvds into :P
L757[13:41:03] <robhol> why not just make flash memory then
L758[13:41:06] * robhol hides
L759[13:41:16] <Kenny> 720K
L760[13:41:19] <robhol> optical media are clunky as hell
L761[13:41:54] <Kilobyte> Sangar: huh, is / still readonly in latest 1.3?
L762[13:42:01] <Kilobyte> or did you change that
L763[13:42:06] <Kenny> and Sangar, to go realistic the floppy should be 360K
L764[13:42:12] <Kilobyte> because the version i use it apperently is
L765[13:42:23] <Sangar> Kilobyte, err, it will always be until you install openos onto a rw medium.
L766[13:42:25] <PsychokenesisKat> I say there should be cheap flash memory that dies after a number of write cycles
L767[13:42:29] <PsychokenesisKat> or rather EEPROM
L768[13:42:35] <Kilobyte> oh, the floppy isn't?
L769[13:42:40] <Sangar> nope
L770[13:43:11] <Sangar> loot disks are all read-only, getting their data from the jar, to avoid unnecessarily spamming the save dir.
L771[13:43:17] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw, the hard disks sound as if they were just head crashing
L772[13:43:36] <Kenny> to my knowledge, floppy went: 360 720 (for 5.25) 720 1.44 (for 3.5)
L773[13:43:38] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yeah. they aren't tho :P i recorded that from a perfectly healthy hdd myself >_>
L774[13:43:47] <Kilobyte> xD
L775[13:43:59] <PsychokenesisKat> There's also the 2.88M format
L776[13:44:43] <PsychokenesisKat> I've never seen a 2.88 FD myself though- hell, it's probably the same, just a different formatting.
L777[13:45:09] <Kenny> the 2.88 was a generic written format to screw with MS
L778[13:45:24] <PsychokenesisKat> Ah, hence the reason no-one has heard of it.
L779[13:45:44] <Kenny> i've heard of it, even tried it. it was buggy
L780[13:46:00] <PsychokenesisKat> I have several computers with a BIOS that supports it
L781[13:46:53] <Kenny> but it required installation on whatever computer you wanted to use
L782[13:47:15] <Kenny> and if you wanted to use it on another computer, install before you could use
L783[13:47:51] <Kenny> that was one of the reasons it faded from the scene so quickly
L784[13:48:40] <PsychokenesisKat> Did it use the standard media though?
L785[13:49:13] <Vexatos> Sangar: What was that markdown plugin you installed
L786[13:49:18] <Kenny> yes iirc
L787[13:49:40] <PsychokenesisKat> I'll have to experiment with this eventually, then.
L788[13:50:20] <Sangar> Vexatos, https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:markdowku this one, because it was most recently updated one i found
L789[13:50:33] <Vexatos> k
L790[13:50:50] <Vexatos> Beginning the copypasta then
L791[13:50:55] <Sangar> :D
L792[13:52:54] <Vexatos> The "ComponentAccess" and "signals" page should go into components, right?
L793[13:55:52] <Sangar> i think that'd make sense, yes
L794[13:57:57] <PsychokenesisKat> 3 minutes till third person hour
L795[13:58:10] <Pontiac_AtWork> dokuwiki FTMFW.
L796[13:58:10] <PsychokenesisKat> 2
L797[13:59:04] <ds84182> I just got a great idea for a OpenComputers arch
L798[13:59:08] <PsychokenesisKat> 1
L799[13:59:10] <ds84182> Fricken linux
L800[13:59:15] <ds84182> Because of UML
L801[13:59:36] <PsychokenesisKat> 30 sec
L802[13:59:50] <PsychokenesisKat> 15 sec
L803[14:00:00] <PsychokenesisKat> 5 sec
L804[14:00:07] <PsychokenesisKat> TPH begins now
L805[14:00:31] * PsychokenesisKat wonders if anyone understands'
L806[14:00:33] <ds84182> Sangar, soo here comes the question... how do I go about creating a new Arch for OpenComputers
L807[14:00:35] * JoshTheEnder farts
L808[14:00:40] * JoshTheEnder slaps ds84182
L809[14:01:06] <Sangar> ds84182, have you had a look at the Architecture interface?
L810[14:01:16] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i have a request
L811[14:01:25] <Sangar> uh oh
L812[14:01:25] * PsychokenesisKat proposes a rule: If one speaks in first person during third person hour, they are not allowed to participate until the next TPH
L813[14:01:26] * Vexatos throws Kilobyte around
L814[14:01:27] <Kilobyte> basicly the ability to flush the library cache
L815[14:01:34] * Vexatos throws Kilobyte around
L816[14:01:41] <asie> Sangar: What's the unit for OC power?
L817[14:01:45] <asie> as in, compared to RF, or MJ
L818[14:01:46] * Vexatos throws asie around
L819[14:01:51] <Kilobyte> because if i am debugging a lib its very painful if i have to reboot the computer each time
L820[14:01:52] * asie throws Vexatos into a portable tape drive
L821[14:01:53] <Sangar> asie, it's 1:1 mj
L822[14:01:54] * asie plays Vexatos
L823[14:01:56] * Vexatos gives up
L824[14:01:56] <asie> Sangar: great!
L825[14:02:01] <Techokami> thank you!
L826[14:02:06] * Vexatos rages
L827[14:02:18] * Techokami rewinds Vexatos
L828[14:02:21] <Kilobyte> Sangar: do you agree?
L829[14:02:26] * PsychokenesisKat listens to the terrible noise of uncompressed binary data
L830[14:02:26] <ds84182> Sangar, I see it but I have no idea what to do with it
L831[14:02:30] <Sangar> Kilobyte, package.loaded = nil iirc
L832[14:02:39] <Kilobyte> yeah, but as program :P
L833[14:02:46] <Kilobyte> like flushlibs
L834[14:02:54] <robhol> grrrr, minecraft. y u no work
L835[14:03:41] <ds84182> Kilobyte, edit /bin/flushlibs
L836[14:03:49] <Kilobyte> yes...
L837[14:04:01] <Kilobyte> i just mean it would be a good idea to ship with it
L838[14:04:03] * PsychokenesisKat removes Vexatos from the portable tape drive and inserts some Owl City
L839[14:04:13] <Sangar> ds84182, all right good. you implement that in a class that implements your architecture, i.e. takes care of "running it". to use it ingame, you'll need a computer (block, item, ...) that creates a machine using that architecture (see machine api).
L840[14:04:14] <Kilobyte> otherwise i'll make a package avail through oppm
L841[14:04:45] <Kilobyte> gah
L842[14:04:48] <ds84182> Sangar, so it's not as simple as I once thought
L843[14:04:49] * Vexatos likes Owl City
L844[14:04:50] <ds84182> yay
L845[14:04:55] <Kilobyte> debugging is a 3 step process atm
L846[14:04:59] * Vexatos converts his Owl City albums to DFPWM now
L847[14:05:14] <Kilobyte> 1. run install script in IDE, 2. replug HDD, 3. reboot
L848[14:05:17] <Kilobyte> then run
L849[14:05:27] * PsychokenesisKat converts his owl city remixes into DFPWM, and the pictures into something displayable
L850[14:05:40] <Kilobyte> woot it runs
L851[14:05:51] * PsychokenesisKat feels like watching Clannad again
L852[14:06:10] <Sangar> Kilobyte, mm, dunno. it's a one liner that'd only be useful to lib devs :P i'd expect people who code libs to be able to write that program themselves ;) or oppm install flushlibs your program :D
L853[14:06:19] <Kilobyte> true
L854[14:06:54] <Dean4Devil> How much energy does a computer use? Or how is it determined if it can vary?
L855[14:07:07] * PsychokenesisKat wonders about writing a system that allows installing OpenOS into a floppy using only one drive and swapping out drives
L856[14:07:13] <Sangar> ds84182, yeah. i've been thinking of making libs... selectable via item (possibly bound to cpu, but that could get messy, with tiered cpus per arch...), but for now that's how it is.
L857[14:07:40] <asie> Dean4Devil: read opencomputers.cfg
L858[14:07:48] <asie> PsychokenesisKat: hmm
L859[14:07:57] <asie> i need to watch Clannad too
L860[14:08:27] <ds84182> I feel it would be better to tie arches to the cpus, so then the same standard case could be used with different arches
L861[14:08:27] * PsychokenesisKat thinks Clannad is an awesome anime, and After Story is even better, even if a huge emotional rollercoaster
L862[14:08:31] <asie> btw
L863[14:08:34] <Sangar> Dean4Devil, what asie said. and note that that's the amount used while it does something. if the computers can sleep for several ticks (i.e. you os.sleep() and no signals arrive) it'll use less than that.
L864[14:08:37] <asie> ds84182: no -> multiple CPUs
L865[14:08:40] <asie> also!
L866[14:08:51] <asie> Computronics 0.5.0 will be finally coming out on Tuesday or so
L867[14:08:52] <Vexatos> Also, Sangar: You might want links to stick out a little more
L868[14:08:52] <Dean4Devil> ty
L869[14:08:57] <asie> and it will bring a massive amount of changes
L870[14:08:59] <Vexatos> Currently, links are white on light gray
L871[14:09:10] <asie> radars! ComputerCraft 1.64pr3 support! portable tape drives! fixes! fixes! FIXES!
L872[14:09:16] * PsychokenesisKat is excited about Computronics 0.5.0
L873[14:09:25] <Vexatos> white on dark grey*, normal text is light grey on dark grey
L874[14:09:30] <Sangar> Vexatos, could you make a list so i can take care of all the css adjustments in one go? that'd be great.
L875[14:09:30] * Vexatos is excited as well
L876[14:09:31] * PsychokenesisKat is excited about portable tape drives, and wonders if they use energy
L877[14:09:34] <asie> nope!
L878[14:09:36] <asie> neither will tape drive
L879[14:09:37] <asie> s
L880[14:09:56] <ds84182> And now it's time to make an ARM co-processor because gamax requested it
L881[14:09:56] <asie> so far only radars will use energy
L882[14:10:00] * PsychokenesisKat can now walk around swapping out tapes while mining or running around on the server
L883[14:10:29] <asie> yup! it will work sort of like that
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L885[14:11:43] <Vexatos> Sangar: https://gist.github.com/Vexatos/8c2b4aa852e16db5799e
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L887[14:12:06] * PsychokenesisKat is annoyed that this picture-to-ascii converter doesn't support images more than 2000 pixels
L888[14:12:21] * Vexatos thinks 2000 pixels are enough
L889[14:13:44] * PsychokenesisKat thinks these colours are too washed out
L890[14:15:25] <Vexatos> Sangar: Is the Abstract Bus Component for use with the adapter block?
L891[14:15:40] <Sangar> Vexatos, thanks. and no, it's a card.
L892[14:15:41] <Vexatos> Not sure in which category to put it
L893[14:15:43] <Vexatos> Ah
L894[14:15:50] <Vexatos> Because I have "native components"
L895[14:15:57] <Vexatos> and "Adapter Block Components"
L896[14:16:07] <Vexatos> Maybe make a third category then
L897[14:16:16] <Sangar> block, item, adapter, yeah
L898[14:16:39] * PsychokenesisKat thinks he just crashed pastebin
L899[14:16:50] <Vexatos> How about this: http://puu.sh/9Zb9g/7415b2bac5.png
L900[14:17:16] <PsychokenesisKat> Oh, that's why it isn't happy. This ASCII is 2GB
L901[14:17:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar: progress! http://www.kilobyte22.de/screenshot/screenshot_2014-07-06_16-17-17.png
L902[14:17:25] <Sangar> Vexatos, hmm, if gpu and redstone is in native, why not put the abstract bus in there, too?
L903[14:17:36] <Vexatos> True
L904[14:17:56] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9ZbcQ/60e7e9e7d7.png then
L905[14:17:59] <Kenny> also< Vexatos. the adapter block has (in essence) a lot more components than that
L906[14:18:02] <Kilobyte> yes, i already implemented toggable line numbers
L907[14:18:12] <Sangar> Kilobyte, very impressive >_> ;)
L908[14:18:17] <Vexatos> Kenny: Yes, but not in "vanilla" OC
L909[14:18:24] <Vexatos> OpenComponents will get its own section
L910[14:18:32] <Vexatos> Or wait
L911[14:18:37] <Vexatos> Note blocks already require OCC
L912[14:18:39] <Sangar> yes
L913[14:18:43] <Kenny> RiM is a totally separate mod, not a component
L914[14:18:48] <Vexatos> Mhm
L915[14:18:52] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ikr... its just... i am happy it worked
L916[14:18:56] <Vexatos> I just copypasted from the github wiki D:<
L917[14:19:03] <Sangar> Kilobyte, haha, i can relate to that ;)
L918[14:19:23] <Sangar> Vexatos, yeah, on the github wiki it says it requires occ tho :P but yeah, just make the adapter block components the occ category.
L919[14:19:44] <Sangar> i don't think oc itself has *any* adapter block drivers.
L920[14:19:48] <vifino> dafuq is occ
L921[14:20:03] <Kenny> OpenComponents
L922[14:20:06] <Sangar> open components. it doesn't make sense, i know. but i'm to lazy to spell it out all the time :P
L923[14:20:12] <vifino> lol
L924[14:20:21] <vifino> I thought it would be like gcc
L925[14:20:23] <vifino> :<
L926[14:20:27] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9Zbm0/71eb98acd2.png then, Sangar?
L927[14:20:31] <Sangar> (well, the modid is OpenComputers|Components iirc, so it kinda makes sense in that regard)
L928[14:20:40] <Kenny> OCC= OpenComputers/Components
L929[14:20:57] <Sangar> Vexatos, I guess
L930[14:20:58] <Kenny> damn, you got me that time hehe
L931[14:21:03] <Sangar> :>
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L933[14:22:32] <Kilobyte> Sangar: next step... the command line
L934[14:24:06] <PsychokenesisKat> Damnit, the colour picture is still 191MB
L935[14:24:15] <vifino> Kilobyte: :o
L936[14:24:22] <Kilobyte> vifino: ?
L937[14:24:32] <vifino> Kilobyte: gcc for oc pls
L938[14:24:33] <vifino> lel
L939[14:24:44] <vifino> or g++
L940[14:24:50] <Kilobyte> lolno
L941[14:24:53] <vifino> aw
L942[14:25:19] <Kilobyte> i might write a lua 'compiler' though that takes a set of lua files and merges them
L943[14:25:27] <vifino> ._.
L944[14:25:32] <vifino> "compiler"
L945[14:25:37] * vifino leaves
L946[14:25:56] <Vexatos> Sanar: Where should NonstandardLuaLibs go?
L947[14:26:24] <vifino> I wanna has torch in oc
L948[14:26:35] <vifino> neural networks ftw
L949[14:26:50] <JoshTheEnder> Vexatos, when will the wiki be available? i wanna help contribute to it
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L951[14:26:53] zsh sets mode: +v on jk-5
L952[14:27:38] <Vexatos> JoshTheEnder: Once I copypasted all the github files
L953[14:27:42] <Vexatos> and set everything up
L954[14:27:45] <JoshTheEnder> ok
L955[14:27:49] <Vexatos> and sangar fixed ugly CSS
L956[14:27:53] <Vexatos> and Sangar agrees
L957[14:28:00] *** vifino is now known as vifino|away
L958[14:28:05] <Vexatos> btw, that gist with ugly CSS is growing xD
L959[14:28:34] <Sangar> :P
L960[14:28:52] <Sangar> so, JoshTheEnder, you into css? >_>
L961[14:29:09] <Vexatos> https://gist.github.com/Vexatos/8c2b4aa852e16db5799e
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L963[14:29:12] <Vexatos> Getting larger
L964[14:29:19] <JoshTheEnder> not really, i use pre-made ones. havent bothered to try it myself
L965[14:29:26] <Sangar> too bad
L966[14:29:58] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> Sangar: Where should NonstandardLuaLibs go?
L967[14:30:21] <Kenny> if i knew what everything linked to i could do it.
L968[14:30:38] <Sangar> Vexatos, hmm, dunno.
L969[14:30:53] <Sangar> misc: for now :P
L970[14:31:57] <Sangar> Kenny, i was half joking, i'll probably have to mess with the php a little, too, and i cba to set up ftp access.
L971[14:32:03] <Sangar> but thanks anyway
L972[14:32:32] <Kenny> ok
L973[14:32:59] <Kenny> don't really need ftp access to do adjustments :P
L974[14:33:32] <Vexatos> Sangar should do it himself
L975[14:33:37] <Vexatos> He
L976[14:33:41] <Vexatos> He will make it nice .3
L977[14:33:49] <Pontiac_AtWork> Note to self: Don't make your base walls and long hallways out of obsidian.
L978[14:33:49] <Vexatos> (And yes, I am suggesting that Kenny wouldn't)
L979[14:33:50] <Kenny> all i need is a link to the site. I can download the whole site to my web server, make adjustments and let you see the results
L980[14:33:57] <Vexatos> >:D
L981[14:34:06] <Kenny> screw you Vexatos
L982[14:34:09] *** Kenny is now known as Kenny|AFK
L983[14:34:10] <Kilobyte> fok
L984[14:34:14] <Kilobyte> i lost the game
L985[14:34:21] <Sangar> against whom? :P
L986[14:34:37] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, is it /the/ game?
L987[14:34:41] *** vifino|away is now known as vifino
L988[14:35:00] <Kilobyte> yes
L989[14:35:14] <JoshTheEnder> well fuck you now i've lost as well
L990[14:35:17] <JoshTheEnder> :P
L991[14:35:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: https://gist.github.com/Kilobyte22/8325806
L992[14:35:46] <^v> Kilobyte, No desc by Kilobyte22 0.27KB
L993[14:36:04] * v^ dies
L994[14:36:16] <Sangar> well, time to win
L995[14:36:57] <Vexatos> Hmm
L996[14:37:15] <Vexatos> "colours" should not redirect to "colors", should it?
L997[14:37:40] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, just reminded my sister of the game, her response was "Prick" :P
L998[14:38:03] <Kenny|AFK> yes it should
L999[14:38:10] <Vexatos> Okay.
L1000[14:38:26] <Kenny|AFK> colours is european spelling of american colors
L1001[14:40:59] <Vexatos> I know >_>
L1002[14:41:04] <Vexatos> <--British English and such
L1003[14:41:18] <JoshTheEnder> Vexatos, you're British?
L1004[14:41:55] <Vexatos> No
L1005[14:41:56] <Vexatos> German
L1006[14:42:01] <JoshTheEnder> aww
L1007[14:42:03] <Vexatos> But we learn British English in school
L1008[14:42:12] <JoshTheEnder> well, \o/ for that :P
L1009[14:42:14] <Vexatos> At least we should
L1010[14:42:23] <Vexatos> *cough American teacher cough*
L1011[14:42:27] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L1012[14:42:39] <Vexatos> Well, that was primary school
L1013[14:43:01] <Vexatos> Currently, we have a teacher whose husband is in the European parliament xD
L1014[14:43:38] <Kilobyte> JoshTheEnder: xD
L1015[14:44:57] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how does os.exit work?`
L1016[14:45:37] <Sangar> Kilobyte, it throws an error in a special format that shell.execute (or something in the execution chain anyway...) handles accordingly.
L1017[14:46:41] <Kilobyte> gah
L1018[14:46:48] <Kilobyte> aka i cannot use it inside a pcall
L1019[14:46:49] <Kilobyte> -.-
L1020[14:46:55] <Sangar> yes
L1021[14:47:03] <Vexatos> Also, Sangar: The media manager seems pretty broken
L1022[14:47:49] <Sangar> it does?
L1023[14:48:32] <Vexatos> Batch moving/deletion of images isn't possible :(
L1024[14:48:46] <Sangar> oh
L1025[14:49:36] <Vexatos> So it uploaded all my files to the root system
L1026[14:49:56] * PsychokenesisKat thinks this TPH has been wasted
L1027[14:49:57] <Vexatos> although it should be in /items
L1028[14:50:23] <Vexatos> Anyways
L1029[14:50:47] <Sangar> should that be possible? i.e. should i change the theme to default for the meantime?
L1030[14:50:57] <Vexatos> No
L1031[14:51:00] <Vexatos> It shouldn't be
L1032[14:51:23] <Vexatos> I think the wiki could go public now, i.e. others may start contributing to it, although I haven't set up an example page for showing wiki conventions yet :(
L1033[14:51:31] <Vexatos> I think I'll do that now
L1034[14:52:33] <Sangar> hm, there's a 'move' plugin, bt i'm not sure if that can do bulk operations
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L1036[14:53:45] <Sangar> hmm, let me try something
L1037[14:54:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: can we add a setting to io.read()?
L1038[14:54:30] <Kilobyte> to make it not scroll on hitting return
L1039[14:55:01] <Sangar> Vexatos, moved stuff into items/
L1040[14:55:06] <Sangar> is everything broken now?
L1041[14:55:36] <Sangar> Kilobyte, hmm, lemme check if normal lua scrolls or not. if not it's wrong anyway, otherwise... meh :/
L1042[14:55:45] <Kilobyte> nonono
L1043[14:55:47] <Kilobyte> as option :P
L1044[14:55:58] <Sangar> but lua standard api :P
L1045[14:56:01] <Kilobyte> as in, a boolean (or a flag in a table) passed
L1046[14:56:12] <Kilobyte> additional, so its backwards compatible
L1047[14:56:56] <Kilobyte> just would save me scrolling down the entire buffer area again
L1048[14:57:05] <Kilobyte> or providing my own patched version of read
L1049[14:57:33] <Vexatos> Sangar: Thank you
L1050[14:57:40] <Sangar> hmm, standard lua breaks. well, it's true it would be compatible... hm.
L1051[14:58:18] <Sangar> yeah... i suppose that'd make sense in quite a few of scenarios.
L1052[14:59:15] <Vexatos> Sangar: First item page done xD
L1053[14:59:27] <Vexatos> Scaling the textures to 150px looks perfect
L1054[14:59:52] <Sangar> oh, great. then we don't need two copies of the same? \o/
L1055[15:00:02] <Kilobyte> Sangar: woot first editor command done
L1056[15:00:04] <Sangar> looking good :)
L1057[15:00:07] <Vexatos> Yes indeed
L1058[15:00:08] <Kilobyte> numbers (true|false)
L1059[15:00:15] <Kilobyte> enables/disables line numbers
L1060[15:00:23] <Vexatos> Should we wait with the release until you fixed CSS and I got all the github things copied?
L1061[15:00:52] <Sangar> i'll look at the css stuff now, after that
L1062[15:01:16] <Kilobyte> Sangar: should i PR it in?
L1063[15:01:21] <Vexatos> Okay, you should reload the gist page
L1064[15:01:25] <Sangar> Kilobyte, sure
L1065[15:01:25] <Vexatos> I added some more things
L1066[15:01:31] <Sangar> ok
L1067[15:04:14] <Techokami> I am so good at computers :V Sangar I'm going to need some guidance with regards to robot upgrades consuming power
L1068[15:04:44] <Sangar> hmm?
L1069[15:05:05] <Techokami> well, I made Radar Upgrades for robots
L1070[15:05:11] <Techokami> to let them scan for entities
L1071[15:05:20] <Techokami> but I want to consume a chunk of energy per scan
L1072[15:05:32] <Techokami> when I ran a test scan
L1073[15:05:33] <Techokami> uh
L1074[15:05:38] <Techokami> "Unrecoverable Error"
L1075[15:05:58] <Techokami> lemme push the code I got right now
L1076[15:06:53] <PsychokenesisKat> Wow, the quote for Nagato is "...", it's weirdly fitting.
L1077[15:07:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: where is that thing defined?
L1078[15:07:15] <Kilobyte> also, i will go with a flags table
L1079[15:07:16] <ds84182> I might add the L2GPU as another GPU for OpenGX
L1080[15:07:21] <Sangar> Kilobyte, boot/??_io i think
L1081[15:07:25] <Kilobyte> ah
L1082[15:07:27] <ds84182> Because CCLights2 is waaaaay more powerful than what I have
L1083[15:07:49] <Kilobyte> basicly it will be io.read(nil, {nowrap = true})
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L1085[15:08:25] <Techokami> Sangar https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/blob/0.5.0-1.7/src/main/java/pl/asie/computronics/oc/RobotUpgradeRadar.java here's my code, did I implement taking energy properly
L1086[15:08:31] <ds84182> I'm going to go to windows
L1087[15:08:33] <ds84182> for reasons
L1088[15:08:37] <ds84182> brb
L1089[15:09:03] <Sangar> Kilobyte, hmm, a) it's not really 'wrapping', it's a newline after confirmation, b) do you really expect more parameters there (justifying the table)?
L1090[15:09:17] <Kilobyte> hmm
L1091[15:09:23] <Kilobyte> well, true
L1092[15:09:28] *** ds84182 is now known as dsAway
L1093[15:09:32] <Kilobyte> if that really happens one can add
L1094[15:10:01] <Sangar> Techokami, looks correct to me.
L1095[15:11:22] <Techokami> Sangar http://pastebin.com/Kqp3m8wc here's the log then...
L1096[15:11:50] <Sangar> oh, fancy an assertion error.
L1097[15:12:34] <Kilobyte> Sangar: these lines in lib/term.lua i guess
L1098[15:12:42] <Kilobyte> 289 if term.getCursor() > 1 then
L1099[15:12:42] <Kilobyte> 290 print()
L1100[15:12:42] <Kilobyte> 291 end
L1101[15:12:46] <Techokami> so I guess I broke OC then, Sangar?
L1102[15:13:57] <Sangar> Kilobyte, also, just me thinking out loud here, but maybe make it io.read(nil, false) to suppress the newline? since it's *disabling* something, so `true` would be weird, no? and then add a `and dobreak ~= false` to what you just quoted, yes.
L1103[15:14:13] <Kilobyte> yeah
L1104[15:14:14] <Sangar> Techokami, quite possibly :P
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L1106[15:14:27] <Techokami> well the good news is, it isn't my fault then
L1107[15:14:29] <Techokami> oh hi asie
L1108[15:14:38] <asie> Techokami: what's wrong?
L1109[15:14:39] <Techokami> good news: Radar Upgrades!
L1110[15:14:44] <asie> bad news?
L1111[15:14:50] <Techokami> bad news: they break OC
L1112[15:14:59] <asie> what
L1113[15:15:00] <Techokami> assertion error
L1114[15:15:00] <asie> how
L1115[15:15:06] <asie> crashlog?
L1116[15:15:16] <Techokami> http://pastebin.com/Kqp3m8wc
L1117[15:15:19] <Techokami> it crashes the robot
L1118[15:15:24] <Techokami> not minecraft
L1119[15:15:42] <Techokami> the code is in the github, Sangar said it looks fine
L1120[15:15:49] <Sangar> Techokami, so. somehow you managed to corrupt the lua stack. will have to dig a bit.
L1121[15:16:03] <Techokami> beautiful
L1122[15:16:04] <Kilobyte> oh
L1123[15:16:10] <Kilobyte> thats why my pc is so slow
L1124[15:16:13] <Sangar> i imagine an error flew past some try catch
L1125[15:16:22] <Kilobyte> i have rubymine + intellij + minecraft open
L1126[15:16:34] <Techokami> lemme pastebin my radartest.lua then
L1127[15:16:52] <Vexatos> Sangar: Have you already implemented the manual wiki registration approval thingie
L1128[15:17:23] <Sangar> Vexatos, no, one sec.
L1129[15:18:16] <Techokami> http://pastebin.com/rdirC5pZ here's the lua script I've been using to test radar functionality
L1130[15:18:34] <Vexatos> Sangar: The wiki going public with free registration wouldn't bee good ,)
L1131[15:18:52] <asie> Techokami: i guess that's why OC 1.3 is an RC
L1132[15:18:54] <Sangar> Vexatos, well, currently registration is disabled completely :P
L1133[15:18:56] <Techokami> hehe
L1134[15:18:59] <Vexatos> Oh
L1135[15:19:00] <asie> Sangar: any ETA on a stable release?
L1136[15:19:03] <asie> Computronics 0.5.0 will depend on OC 1.3
L1137[15:19:24] <Sangar> asie, a couple more days, to see if people find any more bugs
L1138[15:19:27] <asie> right
L1139[15:19:28] <asie> like we did now? :P
L1140[15:19:34] <Sangar> yup :D
L1141[15:19:49] <Pontiac_AtWork> I squashed a bug today.
L1142[15:19:51] <Vexatos> asie: You don't want to move the computronics wiki to the OC wiki by chance? If not, I will link to your wiki page in the Addons list
L1143[15:19:57] <Pontiac_AtWork> Made a BIG mess on my windshield.
L1144[15:20:08] <asie> Vexatos: no
L1145[15:20:12] <asie> i do not want to.
L1146[15:20:13] <Vexatos> Okay
L1147[15:20:17] <asie> what I *do* want to do, though
L1148[15:20:23] <asie> is make Tapes readable in CC Disk Drives (only labels, though)
L1149[15:20:31] <Vexatos> >__>
L1150[15:20:32] <asie> because I love cross-compatibility even if it's completely pointless! ^________^
L1151[15:20:38] <asie> Vexatos: I can't make them playable in CC Disk Drives
L1152[15:20:38] <Vexatos> Noone cares about CC in here xD
L1153[15:20:40] <asie> because CC's API sucks
L1154[15:20:42] <asie> Vexatos: I do
L1155[15:20:46] <asie> I care about all three computer mos
L1156[15:20:47] <asie> mods*
L1157[15:20:51] <Vexatos> Yea
L1158[15:20:58] <Vexatos> Okay, Tape drive in NedoComputers.
L1159[15:20:59] <Vexatos> Now.
L1160[15:21:26] <vifino> :o
L1161[15:21:33] <vifino> Just googles nedoComputers
L1162[15:21:42] <vifino> ITS RP2 COMPUTAHS!!!!!!
L1163[15:21:42] <asie> Vexatos: Done.
L1164[15:21:45] <asie> Kind of.
L1165[15:21:49] <asie> You can control tape playback
L1166[15:21:52] * vifino fanboys
L1167[15:21:54] <asie> but not read/write it (but that's not hard to add)
L1168[15:22:18] <Techokami> vifino, it's not RP2 computers, it's a custom arch that happens to use FORTH
L1169[15:22:26] <vifino> ._.
L1170[15:22:36] <Techokami> but it's similar enough
L1171[15:22:47] <vifino> ^^^^^
L1172[15:23:05] <Techokami> also the GUI needs help
L1173[15:23:19] <Techokami> the screen is too large for the default Minecraft window size
L1174[15:23:26] <Techokami> and it doesn't scale down to fit
L1175[15:25:37] <Sangar> Vexatos, check to see if you think the link color and redirect notice are acceptable now.
L1176[15:25:43] <Vexatos> k
L1177[15:26:12] <vifino> Sangar: What would you think of a forth port to lua?
L1178[15:26:14] <vifino> :P
L1179[15:26:18] <Vexatos> Sangar: Links: http://puu.sh/9Zf6z/e15b607065.png
L1180[15:26:46] <Sangar> Vexatos, i know how they look, i was asking for feedback if they're distinct enough :P
L1181[15:26:54] <Sangar> vifino, i think it'd be slow :P
L1182[15:27:00] <Vexatos> Well, it's hard to tell a difference there, still
L1183[15:27:00] <vifino> Sangar: why?
L1184[15:27:03] <Vexatos> But the redirect message is fine now
L1185[15:27:08] <Vexatos> But the other one should be changed
L1186[15:27:14] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9Zfad/b1971154f8.png
L1187[15:27:33] <Vexatos> And external links are still white: http://puu.sh/9ZfaV/d4241ba117.png
L1188[15:27:40] <Sangar> vifino, because it's a vm in a vm in a vm that has to yield for at worst 50ms regularly :P
L1189[15:27:46] <gamax92> Techokami: boo!
L1190[15:27:52] <vifino> Sangar: shhh!
L1191[15:27:56] <Techokami> !oob
L1192[15:28:06] <Sangar> Vexatos, ah, that's what the different classes are for
L1193[15:28:53] <gamax92> Techokami: I'mma try to put this OPL3 simulator in MC
L1194[15:28:57] <Sangar> Vexatos, can you link me to a redirect page?
L1195[15:29:01] <Techokami> good luck gamax92
L1196[15:29:14] <gamax92> Techokami: but I need halp. I cannot network.
L1197[15:29:23] <Vexatos> There
L1198[15:29:29] <Techokami> ask Sangar, he's right here
L1199[15:29:35] <Sangar> thanks. also, why is the background so dark for you o.O
L1200[15:29:52] <Vexatos> Shouldn't it be this dark?
L1201[15:30:10] <Techokami> or read the DFPWM code in AsieLib for an idea
L1202[15:30:23] <gamax92> or I can bother asie.
L1203[15:30:24] <Sangar> Vexatos, lemme check if i'm just seeing things first :P
L1204[15:30:32] <asie> gamax92: why me?
L1205[15:30:51] <Sangar> Vexatos, http://i.imgur.com/U54N2uF.png this is how it looks for me
L1206[15:31:25] <Vexatos> That's the same as http://puu.sh/9Zf6z/e15b607065.png
L1207[15:31:35] <Sangar> no, it's absolutely not
L1208[15:31:48] <Vexatos> Looks similar to mee
L1209[15:31:51] <Vexatos> *me
L1210[15:32:01] <Vexatos> And I promise I am not colour blind xD
L1211[15:32:05] <Kenny|AFK> to me also
L1212[15:32:11] <gamax92> I can either: Server simulates opl3, streams music to clients. Server sends raw register changes, client is constantly simulating opl3 and modifies accordingly. Server sends commands (register changes and delays), client does all of that.
L1213[15:32:13] <Sangar> yours 0x1d2028, mine 0x272b30
L1214[15:32:58] <Vexatos> The links should really stick out, not that you make them bright red
L1215[15:33:01] <gamax92> probably not the first one, because lots of network usage, and not the third one because, commands could build up in a queue and run out of memory.
L1216[15:33:05] <Vexatos> but something easily recognizable
L1217[15:33:10] <Vexatos> Same for the external links
L1218[15:33:23] <Sangar> wtf
L1219[15:33:30] <Sangar> wtf firefox
L1220[15:33:41] <Sangar> in chrome your image looks different than in firefox
L1221[15:33:48] <Sangar> and in chrome it is indeed the same
L1222[15:33:51] <Sangar> gah
L1223[15:33:58] <gamax92> lol
L1224[15:34:02] <Sangar> and yes, i'll tweak the colors some more
L1225[15:34:21] <Techokami> gamax92: would probably be best to have the client do the work
L1226[15:34:26] * Kenny|AFK uses ffox
L1227[15:35:09] <gamax92> Techokami: yeah but, not sending delays doesn't build up a huge queue, but has the potential to be timed wrong. Sending delays doesn't time wrong, but has the potential to build up a huge queue.
L1228[15:35:23] <Techokami> hmmm.
L1229[15:35:26] <Kilobyte> Sangar: lol i love how i can make debugging code just write to the text buffer xD
L1230[15:35:46] <Vexatos> Sangar: I am using ff
L1231[15:36:21] <Sangar> Vexatos, yes, the page renders the same i'm sure. my ff must just be stupid in the way it displays images or something...
L1232[15:36:30] <Sangar> probably some color profile thing
L1233[15:38:26] <Sangar> Vexatos, tad darker now, i think it's pretty distinct now
L1234[15:38:44] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9ZfSk/2f87878a8a.png looks good
L1235[15:38:55] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9ZfSI/234aeb1434.png Looks good as well
L1236[15:39:19] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9ZfUy/ba874fad3b.png nice
L1237[15:39:30] <Vexatos> Let me update the gist then
L1238[15:39:37] <Sangar> all right, now just the code highlighting...
L1239[15:40:31] <Vexatos> https://gist.github.com/Vexatos/8c2b4aa852e16db5799e
L1240[15:40:32] <^v> Vexatos, No desc Written in Markdown by Vexatos 0.36KB
L1241[15:40:32] <Vexatos> :
L1242[15:40:33] <Sangar> i wonder if there's a dark theme for geshi... *googles*
L1243[15:40:39] <gamax92> what ya doing?
L1244[15:40:42] <Vexatos> OC wiki
L1245[15:40:47] <Vexatos> Of doom
L1246[15:40:51] <gamax92> moving it from github?
L1247[15:40:56] <Vexatos> No
L1248[15:41:08] <Vexatos> Well, in the beginning, yes
L1249[15:41:19] <Vexatos> But I want it to have much more detail
L1250[15:41:32] <Vexatos> Also including sub-wikis for the OC addons
L1251[15:41:37] <Kilobyte> wot y u no work
L1252[15:41:46] <Vexatos> and OC tutorials
L1253[15:43:30] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9Zg9x/5742880cac.png not ugly at all, Sangar
L1254[15:44:14] <Sangar> i'd like a dark theme to have it blend in better
L1255[15:44:20] <Sangar> it's not... ugly
L1256[15:44:22] <Sangar> just... bright
L1257[15:44:58] <gamax92> Sangar is a vampire?
L1258[15:45:04] <Sangar> also yay https://twitter.com/minecraftcpw/status/485787777276334080 there might be automagic builds for 1.7.10 after all :P
L1259[15:45:58] <Techokami> !!!
L1260[15:46:01] <Techokami> about damn time
L1261[15:46:09] <Techokami> now I won't need to bum builds off Sangar :D
L1262[15:46:15] <Sangar> hehe
L1263[15:50:24] <istasi> can i get a method list i can component.invoke on an address?
L1264[15:52:24] <Sangar> istasi, component.methods(address) iirc
L1265[15:54:20] <gamax92> Techokami: are packets fixed length?
L1266[15:55:18] <gamax92> :/
L1267[15:55:24] <gamax92> Sangar: are packets fixed length?
L1268[15:55:33] <Techokami> iirc DFPWM it changes based on speed?
L1269[15:55:44] <Techokami> if the speed is fixed then you can use a fixed packet size
L1270[15:56:02] <gamax92> ehh, I'm not sending audio though.
L1271[15:56:26] <Sangar> gamax92, what packets?
L1272[15:56:39] <gamax92> Sangar: like networking packets.
L1273[15:56:51] <Sangar> no
L1274[15:56:56] <asie> Techokami: yep
L1275[15:57:01] <asie> DFPWm changes packet size depending on speed
L1276[15:57:04] <asie> gamax92: nah
L1277[15:57:06] <asie> packets are any length
L1278[15:57:21] <asie> gamax92: what is that OPL3 thing?
L1279[15:57:27] <asie> i might be interested in adding it to Computronics
L1280[15:58:04] <gamax92> asie: http://opl3.cozendey.com/
L1281[15:58:13] <gamax92> has a demo
L1282[15:59:06] <asie> gamax92: neat!
L1283[15:59:13] <istasi> no component.methods btw, but i can do it though proxy and pairs it seems.
L1284[15:59:14] <asie> how do you want to implement it in Minecraft?
L1285[15:59:43] <gamax92> uhh, not sure, was going for a command pool idea.
L1286[15:59:57] <gamax92> asie: think of it sorta like midi
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L1288[16:03:20] <Kilobyte> .openprg
L1289[16:03:32] <^v> Kilobyte, http://71.238.153.166/paste/sgP5f.txt
L1290[16:04:21] <Kilobyte> sooo... if someone is bored they can check out how my text editor does nothing useful yet
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L1292[16:05:02] <Kilobyte> has 3 editor commands: quit! (exits), quit (bitches at you to use quit!) and numbers (expects a bool param to enable/disable line numbers
L1293[16:05:28] <istasi> i'd like to see the code if i may?
L1294[16:07:06] <gamax92> asie: http://hastebin.com/laxufefavi.txt
L1295[16:08:20] <asie> gamax92: meh
L1296[16:08:40] <gamax92> asie: ?
L1297[16:09:32] <asie> not really interested
L1298[16:09:44] <asie> you can always write an OPL3 emulator in Lua
L1299[16:09:45] <gamax92> I kinda expected that.
L1300[16:09:46] <asie> and write it to DFPWM
L1301[16:10:02] <Kilobyte> Sangar: tested it a bit https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/377
L1302[16:10:04] <gamax92> asie: You expect that to be any kinds of fast or easy?
L1303[16:10:05] <Kilobyte> should work
L1304[16:10:14] <asie> gamax92: nope!
L1305[16:11:30] <gamax92> I'm also pretty sure it would be impossible without a number library.
L1306[16:11:48] <v^> function number.add(a,b) return a+b end
L1307[16:11:55] *** Raga is now known as NekoRaga
L1308[16:11:56] <v^> GENIUS!
L1309[16:12:01] <Sangar> Kilobyte, thanks, can you make the dowrap in io also dobreak? to be consistent?
L1310[16:12:02] <gamax92> vifino: no, like bc
L1311[16:12:14] <Kilobyte> derp
L1312[16:12:15] <gamax92> D: tab completion
L1313[16:12:16] <Kilobyte> sure
L1314[16:12:31] * vifino votes for bash ported to oc
L1315[16:12:45] *** NekoRaga is now known as Raga
L1316[16:13:40] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how can i update a PR?
L1317[16:13:54] <Sangar> just push to your branch
L1318[16:14:09] <Kilobyte> ah, cool
L1319[16:14:14] <Sangar> yup
L1320[16:14:41] <Kilobyte> Sangar: there
L1321[16:15:03] <Sangar> done
L1322[16:15:33] <Kilobyte> :P
L1323[16:15:59] <Kilobyte> anyways, whoever wants to try my editor needs very latest OpenOS from git
L1324[16:17:20] <istasi> where be the code? :P
L1325[16:17:47] <Kilobyte> github
L1326[16:17:51] <Kilobyte> just get it via oppm
L1327[16:17:55] <Kilobyte> oppm install v
L1328[16:18:08] <asie> vifino: bloat to OC? nooooo
L1329[16:18:13] <asie> port rc! from plan 9!
L1330[16:18:13] <Kilobyte> you cannot actually edit yet
L1331[16:18:21] <vifino> asie: no u
L1332[16:18:24] <vifino> I want bash
L1333[16:18:25] <Kilobyte> but you can use the editor command line
L1334[16:18:31] <asie> vifino: but bash's binary is 1MB
L1335[16:18:32] <gamax92> I want ash
L1336[16:18:40] <asie> and that's dynamically compiled
L1337[16:18:48] <Kilobyte> *linked
L1338[16:19:01] <Kilobyte> istasi: thats the current look: http://www.kilobyte22.de/screenshot/screenshot_2014-07-06_18-17-47.png
L1339[16:19:14] <gamax92> Kibibyte: dat wm
L1340[16:19:25] <asie> dat i3
L1341[16:19:26] <asie> dat no dwm
L1342[16:19:34] <Kilobyte> yep
L1343[16:19:36] <Kilobyte> i3 is epic
L1344[16:19:41] <asie> https://cdn.mediacru.sh/NMC5shye7-np.png
L1345[16:19:44] <gamax92> but nobody said dwm?
L1346[16:19:46] <asie> https://cdn.mediacru.sh/prHQdWVMofvn.png
L1347[16:20:30] <Kilobyte> i prefer i3
L1348[16:21:02] <gamax92> i prefer xfce
L1349[16:21:03] <asie> i prefer editing dwm's code to be better than i3 for my specific usage
L1350[16:21:13] <gamax92> dammit wrong old wm
L1351[16:21:16] <gamax92> fvwm?
L1352[16:21:18] <asie> i have twenty patches if not more
L1353[16:21:21] <asie> gamax92: mlvwm
L1354[16:21:27] <gamax92> yes, fvwm
L1355[16:21:31] <asie> http://www.google.pl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDcQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2u.biglobe.ne.jp%2F~y-miyata%2Fmlvwm.html&ei=h3e5U6qCLYv54QSk5oDQCA&usg=AFQjCNHmaqlpvQIQwJTLly22oyf9j-y9Gw&sig2=Dp8toyK1FNN0ISryPMVIGA&bvm=bv.70138588,d.bGE
L1356[16:21:33] <asie> er
L1357[16:21:38] <gamax92> yes
L1358[16:21:40] <asie> http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~y-miyata/mlvwm.html
L1359[16:21:41] <asie> mlvwm
L1360[16:22:21] <gamax92> " Last Modified : Jul 27, 2000" lol
L1361[16:22:30] <asie> ye
L1362[16:22:31] <asie> p
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L1364[16:23:00] <gamax92> atleast fvwm has been updated recently
L1365[16:36:24] <Vexatos> Wow
L1366[16:36:29] <Vexatos> Paint.NET 4.0 looks awesome
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L1368[16:43:05] <Vexatos> Sangarrrrrrrrrr, fix http://puu.sh/9Zg9x/5742880cac.png
L1369[16:43:15] <Vexatos> D:
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L1371[16:51:56] <gamax92> Techokami: meh, no motivation to write a mod.
L1372[16:52:48] <PsychokenesisKat> I have returned from an hour-long fight to the death with the Ask toolbar
L1373[16:53:08] <gamax92> PsychokenesisKat: are you trying to tell me it took an hour to remove a toolbar?
L1374[16:53:19] <PsychokenesisKat> That things a bitch
L1375[16:53:26] <PsychokenesisKat> You use Linux right?
L1376[16:53:34] <PsychokenesisKat> Ask isn't a big issue on Linux
L1377[16:53:42] <gamax92> yes but even so it shouldn't take an hour to remove a toolbar.
L1378[16:53:43] <PsychokenesisKat> But my grandad uses Windows
L1379[16:54:17] <PsychokenesisKat> After you remove it by deleting it from program files, it's still hiding in every browser
L1380[16:54:28] <PsychokenesisKat> and sometimes it still won't come out
L1381[16:55:08] <PsychokenesisKat> I managed to get it out of my grandad's firefox, but Internet Exploiter was lost (no loss there)
L1382[16:55:34] <gamax92> PsychokenesisKat: you just manage addons and then click remove on Ask
L1383[16:55:48] <PsychokenesisKat> But it wasn't there!
L1384[16:56:03] <PsychokenesisKat> Yet every time you opened IE, the homepage was set back to ask.
L1385[16:57:52] <gamax92> XD "Oracle Corporation: Stop bundling Ask Toolbar with the Java installer " 0 supporters
L1386[16:58:09] <gamax92> oh, now its loaded
L1387[16:58:10] <PsychokenesisKat> Also there was some other thing trying to masquerade as VLC and every other media player out there
L1388[16:59:28] <PsychokenesisKat> my grandad is also the person that lets Java update.
L1389[17:01:22] <Kenny|AFK> PsychokenesisKat: you have to go into the Control Panel - Internet options and reset the home page there
L1390[17:01:23] <gamax92> hmm
L1391[17:01:38] <Kenny|AFK> that's why IE still has it coming up
L1392[17:01:39] <gamax92> Techokami: Going to attempt to compile imfplay under djgpp
L1393[17:01:47] <Techokami> okay
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L1395[17:06:19] <Vexatos> Yay! Sangar fixed shit! http://puu.sh/9ZkKI/ff80e2e63e.png
L1396[17:06:31] <Sangar> still working on it, but yeah :P
L1397[17:09:39] <PsychokenesisKat> "Absolutely brilliant. Truly unique in its animation, story, and execution. Best viewed while high as a kite, but view it regardless." <-- You see that? That is why not to go fishing for anime reccomendations on imgur. Far too expensive.
L1398[17:11:39] <gamax92> Vexatos: I request a button that causes all the elements on the wiki to dance.
L1399[17:11:44] <gamax92> You can do that right?
L1400[17:11:48] <gamax92> kthx
L1401[17:11:49] <Vexatos> No.
L1402[17:12:14] <gamax92> Vexatos: Every time you say No, a kitten dies.
L1403[17:12:31] <PsychokenesisKat> Vexatos: Say negative instead of n o
L1404[17:12:44] <gamax92> PsychokenesisKat: you can say it.
L1405[17:12:47] <gamax92> just not vex
L1406[17:12:54] <PsychokenesisKat> Or I will be forced to rip you limb from limb using psychokenesis
L1407[17:12:55] <Vexatos> negative
L1408[17:12:58] <Vexatos> See? I can say it
L1409[17:13:06] <gamax92> D: more kittens died
L1410[17:13:49] <PsychokenesisKat> But... Negative isn't no.
L1411[17:13:51] <gamax92> Techokami: apparently imfplay is too heavy in non C standards (I.E. Borland C++)
L1412[17:14:07] <Techokami> delicious
L1413[17:14:15] <gamax92> Techokami: you don't care do you.
L1414[17:14:40] <Techokami> :(
L1415[17:15:14] <Raga> mindstorm8191: I'm no expert with tickets unfortunately. :P
L1416[17:15:29] <Techokami> so how much nonstandard C is in the code anyway
L1417[17:15:40] <Techokami> I'm rather rusty with my C skills
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L1419[17:16:14] * PsychokenesisKat decides the logical course of action would be to slowly rip gamax92's limbs off until he lifts the curse
L1420[17:16:15] <gamax92> I don't know I didn't actually try, I just know it uses "delay" and some borland screen library.
L1421[17:16:36] <gamax92> PsychokenesisKat: how slow?
L1422[17:16:59] <PsychokenesisKat> Quickly, until it starts to cause pain.
L1423[17:17:07] <PsychokenesisKat> Then it would slow right down
L1424[17:17:20] * PsychokenesisKat realises he may be somewhat sadistic
L1425[17:17:56] <gamax92> PsychokenesisKat: Well, I'mma go change 49700 to 49716
L1426[17:18:12] <PsychokenesisKat> Will that lift the curse?
L1427[17:18:44] <gamax92> no
L1428[17:19:55] <PsychokenesisKat> Well lift the curse damnit
L1429[17:19:59] <PsychokenesisKat> it's all I want
L1430[17:20:51] <Sangar> all right then, this has to count as good enough. Vexatos, shall we link the wiki?
L1431[17:21:33] <Vexatos> Go ahead, anyone who wants to: All the page links are set up, you should copypaste the github pages first
L1432[17:21:47] <Vexatos> May I link it?
L1433[17:21:49] <Vexatos> :3
L1434[17:21:50] <gamax92> copypaste copypasta
L1435[17:21:52] <Sangar> http://ocdoc.cil.li/
L1436[17:21:57] <Vexatos> Woo
L1437[17:21:57] <Sangar> ah
L1438[17:22:11] <Vexatos> http://ocdoc.cil.li/contents
L1439[17:22:12] <gamax92> oooooooh
L1440[17:22:14] <Vexatos> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:contents
L1441[17:22:15] <Sangar> :D
L1442[17:22:20] <v^> :O
L1443[17:22:22] <Vexatos> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:contents
L1444[17:22:23] <v^> such fancy
L1445[17:22:23] <Vexatos> All that
L1446[17:22:31] * Vexatos highfives Sangar
L1447[17:22:44] <Sangar> \o
L1448[17:23:00] <Vexatos> o/ * \o
L1449[17:23:08] <Pontiac_AtWork> Complaint about the highlight over the menu on the left.
L1450[17:23:10] <Sangar> anyway, someone please try to register so i can test if that works.
L1451[17:23:27] <Sangar> Pontiac_AtWork, good point, will fix
L1452[17:23:41] *** Csstform|Away is now known as Csstform
L1453[17:23:42] <Vexatos> I like the highlight
L1454[17:23:50] <Pontiac_AtWork> AND the fixed width center.
L1455[17:23:53] <gamax92> "Looks like there was an error on sending the password mail. Please contact the admin!"
L1456[17:23:59] <gamax92> Sangar: ADMIN
L1457[17:24:01] <Pontiac_AtWork> Vex> If it reversed the text font, I'd be cool with that.
L1458[17:24:08] <Pontiac_AtWork> But its basically white on white.
L1459[17:24:12] <Vexatos> Right
L1460[17:24:26] <Sangar> gamax92, all right. kind of expected that :P
L1461[17:25:25] <Pontiac_AtWork> "Looks like there was an error on sending the password mail. Please contact the admin!"
L1462[17:25:38] <gamax92> Vexatos: when you hover over that sidebar, the background goes light gray, which looks bad with white text.
L1463[17:25:46] <Vexatos> Ah
L1464[17:25:58] <Vexatos> Sangar: Nice thing I can see everything anyone changed at http://ocdoc.cil.li/start?do=recent
L1465[17:26:01] <Sangar> Pontiac_AtWork, fixed
L1466[17:26:04] <Vexatos> And go through it regularly
L1467[17:26:09] <Vexatos> to see if something's been derped
L1468[17:26:09] <Sangar> yeah
L1469[17:26:15] <Pontiac_AtWork> Apparently I already exist.
L1470[17:26:24] <Vexatos> Or someone forget a {{page}} include
L1471[17:26:40] <Sangar> now then, to fix registrations...
L1472[17:29:40] <Pontiac_AtWork> Sangar> I attempted to resend the email with a password reset, and I got the same error.
L1473[17:30:07] <Sangar> ye, mail sending isn't working
L1474[17:30:17] <Pontiac_AtWork> Ahh.. I thought thats what you meant by fixed.
L1475[17:30:36] <Pontiac_AtWork> The highlight is MUCH better.
L1476[17:32:42] <Sangar> yeah, meant the highlight, so many things to fix :P
L1477[17:32:57] <Pontiac_AtWork> Got a comfy chair I hope?
L1478[17:33:37] <Sangar> absolutely
L1479[17:33:52] *** Csstform is now known as Csstform|Away
L1480[17:35:38] <gamax92> Hmm, the highlight doesn't show up if what you're highlighting is the bold part (where you are at)
L1481[17:36:32] <Pontiac_AtWork> That could be excused. Why highlight what you're on?
L1482[17:36:33] *** vifino|away is now known as vifino
L1483[17:37:40] <Pontiac_AtWork> Sangar> Do you plan on getting Dokuwiki to hook into your VCS, read source code and update the contents based on comments, or what have you?
L1484[17:38:23] <Sangar> not really. way too few comments in there anyway >_>
L1485[17:38:29] <Vexatos> Nope
L1486[17:38:33] <Vexatos> Just updating manually
L1487[17:38:38] <Vexatos> ~o~
L1488[17:40:02] <gamax92> I have now managed to hurt my self on the plastic clip for my belt.
L1489[17:40:59] <Pontiac_AtWork> You could add tags within the comments that the dokuwiki engine could parse out.
L1490[17:42:19] <Pontiac_AtWork> I have dokuwiki at home. One of the pages dynamically renders my web page via their plugin system. I had to write the plugin (It was a 'challenge accepted' thing) for it.
L1491[17:43:36] <Pontiac_AtWork> Daily, one of my work VMs uploads a CSV to home, the home machine formats the CSV into something my calendar parser can parse, then it renders the page.
L1492[17:45:35] <gamax92> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PDP-8I-backplane.jpg
L1493[17:46:20] <binaryblade> where can I get a list of the items that can be retrieved with Items.get()
L1494[17:46:22] <Vexatos> Sangar: You might want to make links that refer to a non-existing page a different colour, so people know which pages need to be added
L1495[17:47:00] ⇨ Joins: dmod_ (uid32492@id-32492.uxbridge.irccloud.com)
L1496[17:47:04] <Pontiac_AtWork> Already is? redstone card is available, while computer case isn't.
L1497[17:47:11] <Sangar> Vexatos, do they have a different class?
L1498[17:47:30] <Vexatos> No idea, I know that is possible, though
L1499[17:47:49] <Vexatos> the UE wiki I worked on had links shown in green and links referring to an empty dokuwiki page in red
L1500[17:47:53] <Sangar> binaryblade, check the default.recipes file, names are the recipe names (but *not* the oredict names)
L1501[17:48:22] <Vexatos> Oh wait...
L1502[17:48:31] <Vexatos> Existing links are white
L1503[17:48:37] <Vexatos> Non-existing ones are blue
L1504[17:48:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, the existing ones were supposed to be blue >___>
L1505[17:48:52] <Pontiac_AtWork> Sangar> Yes, they do. 404s come up as class='wikilink2' and 200s come up as wikilink1
L1506[17:49:22] <Sangar> oh, great
L1507[17:50:42] <Vexatos> So, FIX THE COLOURZ!!!!11one
L1508[17:50:58] <Sangar> already done :P
L1509[17:51:41] <v^> shoutout to TsimFuckis hes a giant prick
L1510[17:52:51] <v^> wait no nevermindsorry
L1511[17:52:57] <Pontiac_AtWork> Sangar> can you PM me a password please since the email reg isn't working?
L1512[17:53:19] <Vexatos> Nice colours, sangar
L1513[17:54:02] * Pontiac_AtWork chuckles
L1514[17:54:44] <Pontiac_AtWork> I'm scrolling along, and my scroll lines for my mouse configuration is such that it scrolls right past 'configurability'. I see the menu on the left highlight contents, then configurability, and keep on trucking to connectivity.
L1515[18:07:48] <robhol> has anybody else run into a problem with NEI in 1.7.2 that causes minecraft to crash when the inventory is opened?
L1516[18:08:30] <binaryblade> is a call like ItemStack chipStack = Items.get("oc:circuitChip1").createItemStack(1); acceptable in the load event?
L1517[18:09:20] *** LordFokas|off is now known as LordFokas
L1518[18:09:35] <LordFokas> \o
L1519[18:10:36] <Sangar> o/
L1520[18:10:49] <Sangar> all right, i fixed the emailing in the wiki i think
L1521[18:10:57] <JoshTheEnder> o/
L1522[18:11:05] <Michiyo> robhol, yes it's a known issue in NEI it doesn't happen to everyone though.
L1523[18:11:27] <Michiyo> So, we has wiki?
L1524[18:11:28] <robhol> hmm
L1525[18:11:42] <robhol> any known "risk factors", workarounds, etc?
L1526[18:12:36] <PsychokenesisKat> well, I'm off. 4 Am and there's places I need to be tomorrow morning. o/
L1527[18:12:39] <Sangar> Michiyo, yeah, starting on one, anyway :P http://ocdoc.cil.li/
L1528[18:12:54] <Sangar> \o
L1529[18:13:41] <Pontiac_AtWork> I'm going to try and twist Sangars arm to put comments in code to automatically update the wiki.
L1530[18:13:46] <robhol> ocdoc, lol. catchy
L1531[18:13:50] * robhol hides
L1532[18:13:59] <Pontiac_AtWork> Just pondering if I want to use a 3-cyl engine, or go all out and get into a V8?
L1533[18:14:22] <Michiyo> I dig the colors.
L1534[18:15:53] <gamax92> Sangar: it says my account already exists but I've no email.
L1535[18:16:11] <Pontiac_AtWork> GA> Check your spam.
L1536[18:16:12] <binaryblade> but it seems to crash?
L1537[18:16:20] ⇨ Joins: MichiBot (root@isis.pc-logix.com)
L1538[18:16:22] <Sangar> gamax92, is there a recover pw option? if so, could you try that?
L1539[18:16:58] <Pontiac_AtWork> The recover password just fires off an email with a link. Up to that point it doesn't give you the option to change the pword.
L1540[18:17:03] ⇦ Quits: Johannes13 (~Johannes@p4FDE976E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
L1541[18:17:11] <Michiyo> my damn SSH connection died so Michi went poof..
L1542[18:17:43] <JoshTheEnder> its saying my user or pass is not correct even though i'm going by what it emailed me........
L1543[18:17:44] <Sangar> Pontiac_AtWork, it doesn't contain a new password? o.O that's just... stupid.
L1544[18:17:58] <Sangar> god this wiki -.-
L1545[18:18:07] <Michiyo> lol..
L1546[18:18:27] <Pontiac_AtWork> No, it doesn't. It gives you a link to click, which then brings you back to the site to prompt you to change.
L1547[18:18:29] <gamax92> it worked for me
L1548[18:18:47] <gamax92> I've have now logged in and changed my password to something less ... meh
L1549[18:18:50] <Vexatos> gamax92: You registratifiationized now?
L1550[18:18:55] <gamax92> ya
L1551[18:18:55] <JoshTheEnder> ok now it works
L1552[18:19:05] <gamax92> also center aligned fields ... y
L1553[18:19:06] <Hawk777> Sangar: actually it’s really smart; it means someone can’t just walk in and start spamming the Reset Password button for some other user and leave that user unable to log in because they keep getting a new password in their e-mail all the time when they actually didn’t want to change their password at all.
L1554[18:19:11] <Sangar> but i didn't change anything o.O
L1555[18:19:15] <Vexatos> Then, gamax92: copypase ALL the things
L1556[18:19:18] <Vexatos> *paste
L1557[18:19:19] <Vexatos> .-.
L1558[18:19:29] <gamax92> Vexatos: but github markdown?
L1559[18:19:38] <Vexatos> It supports markdown at least
L1560[18:19:44] <Vexatos> You just need to fix the links
L1561[18:19:45] <Sangar> Hawk777, well, yes, he hadn't mentioned it brings you to a form to change it when i said it was stupid :P
L1562[18:19:48] <Vexatos> Then it shoul mostly work
L1563[18:20:00] <Vexatos> There's a "preview" button, if you are unsure
L1564[18:20:03] <Sangar> so i agree, it's better this way
L1565[18:20:26] *** Michiyo is now known as Caitlyn
L1566[18:20:56] <Pontiac_AtWork> Dokuwiki is a nice quick EASY to backup system.
L1567[18:21:08] <istasi> io:read('*a') is the same as io:read('*all') right?
L1568[18:21:12] <Sangar> Pontiac_AtWork, yeah, i like it for that.
L1569[18:21:17] <Sangar> istasi, yes
L1570[18:21:45] * JoshTheEnder goes back to building his spaceship in SE
L1571[18:21:47] <Caitlyn> binaryblade, check the recipe stuff in OpenPrinter's 1.3 API catch
L1572[18:22:30] <Caitlyn> ItemStack pcb = Items.get("printedCircuitBoard").createItemStack(1);
L1573[18:23:11] <Caitlyn> that'll get you a PCB
L1574[18:23:28] <Caitlyn> ItemStack microchip = Items.get("chip1").createItemStack(1);
L1575[18:23:34] <Caitlyn> is a Tier1 MicroChip
L1576[18:23:45] <gamax92> Sangar: mmm, center aligned fields http://i.imgur.com/RqKf4fv.png
L1577[18:25:19] <Sangar> gamax92, mmm, looks amazing >_>
L1578[18:26:08] <Pontiac_AtWork> I sincerely do detest with a passion the fixed center column of text though.
L1579[18:27:15] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how do i create an empty map again
L1580[18:27:46] <Sangar> Kilobyte, mutable.Map.empty[T]
L1581[18:28:05] <Kilobyte> thanks
L1582[18:28:44] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how to convert scala set to java one?
L1583[18:28:58] <Pontiac_AtWork> Is the GPS unit for robots ever going to have the ability to reset its home coords to 0x0x0?
L1584[18:29:04] <Sangar> Kilobyte, import scala.collection.convert.WrapAsJava._
L1585[18:29:14] <Kilobyte> is that it?
L1586[18:29:17] <Sangar> yes
L1587[18:29:38] <Kilobyte> scala is easy once you know how to do it
L1588[18:30:08] <Kilobyte> Sangar: taking a break to work on VOC again
L1589[18:30:13] <Sangar> :D
L1590[18:30:24] <gamax92> I'm going to make an XRay card for robots.
L1591[18:30:39] <Kilobyte> Sangar: it will not buffer file systems btw
L1592[18:30:47] <Kilobyte> because no need
L1593[18:30:51] <Sangar> yeah
L1594[18:30:57] *** dsAway is now known as ds84182
L1595[18:31:15] <Kilobyte> Sangar: small question
L1596[18:31:39] <Kilobyte> can you assign _OCVERSION the value of @@VERSION@@?
L1597[18:32:12] <Sangar> hrm
L1598[18:32:20] <Sangar> i suppose
L1599[18:32:21] <Kilobyte> actually
L1600[18:32:33] <Kilobyte> "OpenComputers @@VERSION@@" i'd say
L1601[18:32:41] <Sangar> yeah
L1602[18:33:06] <Kilobyte> i'd make it stuff like "VirtualOpenComputers @@VERSION@@" for example
L1603[18:33:14] <ds84182> I wish Linux had stable graphics peformance Q_Q
L1604[18:33:19] <ds84182> *performance
L1605[18:33:21] <gamax92> ds84182: what do you mean
L1606[18:33:25] <Kilobyte> ds84182: depends on drivers
L1607[18:33:32] <ds84182> #blameamd
L1608[18:33:33] <Kilobyte> so programs can have special logics optimized for the emulator
L1609[18:34:35] <gamax92> Kilobyte: Thats like me detecting for LuaJ and activating certain compatbility flags or yelling at the user.
L1610[18:35:19] <Kilobyte> heh
L1611[18:35:27] <gamax92> which, is rather easy to do.
L1612[18:35:41] <Kilobyte> i might actually not provide luaj support
L1613[18:36:19] *** vifino is now known as vifino|away
L1614[18:36:35] <ds84182> My main problem is if I use the open source drives my bit depth goes down to 18bpp
L1615[18:36:40] <ds84182> And thats baaaaaaad
L1616[18:36:54] <gamax92> hmm, mine doesn't
L1617[18:37:01] <ds84182> *drivers
L1618[18:37:30] <ds84182> The closed source drivers are amazing, but then theres the "No VSync ever" problem
L1619[18:37:30] <Kilobyte> Sangar: hmm should i manage users globally or per server
L1620[18:37:31] <gamax92> My main problem is if I use fglrx I have to use an older version patched for newer kernels, no kms, graphics corruption, and love2d is completly broken.
L1621[18:37:49] <Kilobyte> ds84182: closed source drivers often don't work with latest x.org
L1622[18:38:03] <gamax92> oh yeah, and i have to downgrade Xorg
L1623[18:38:13] <Kilobyte> because AMD isn't in mood to update them like weekly
L1624[18:38:16] <ds84182> Kilobyte: the thing is I can use the graphics tearing fix thing in the settings
L1625[18:38:24] <ds84182> But then it uses a lot more GPU memory
L1626[18:38:34] <gamax92> and that.
L1627[18:38:58] <Pontiac_AtWork> There are three reasons I don't use *Nix as my primary OS. Driver support, gaming performance, and "Why are my graphics drivers not working after I rebooted?"
L1628[18:39:35] <Kilobyte> there is a reason i don't use winderps as main os
L1629[18:39:37] <Kilobyte> it sucks
L1630[18:39:56] <gamax92> Well, all of my devices are supported, performance is not crap, and my graphics drivers work just fine after I reboot.
L1631[18:40:23] <Pontiac_AtWork> Kilo> Overgeneralization.
L1632[18:41:07] <Kilobyte> http://strawpoll.me/2059271
L1633[18:41:13] <Kilobyte> btw
L1634[18:41:15] <Pontiac_AtWork> GA> I've had issues where I'm humming along, doing whatever I need to be doing, want to restart the OS for whatever reason, then get knocked on my ass because xorg didn't know what to do with the drivers it was just using a minute ago.
L1635[18:41:20] <Kilobyte> will be open for quite some time
L1636[18:41:31] <gamax92> Pontiac_AtWork: I really hope "GA" is not referring to me.
L1637[18:41:57] <Pontiac_AtWork> gamax92> I've had issues where I'm humming along, doing whatever I need to be doing, want to restart the OS for whatever reason, then get knocked on my ass because xorg didn't know what to do with the drivers it was just using a minute ago.
L1638[18:42:02] <Pontiac_AtWork> There. Fixed.
L1639[18:42:21] <gamax92> welp, thats never happened to me.
L1640[18:42:25] <Kilobyte> same
L1641[18:42:27] <gamax92> Were you using arch?
L1642[18:42:59] <JoshTheEnder> if i had SSDs i would switch back and forth but i just stick to windows because that's where most of my games run and it'd take ages to switch back and forth
L1643[18:43:22] <gamax92> Most of my games consists of Dolphin and Minecraft
L1644[18:43:29] <Kilobyte> most distros: stuff breaks rarely, but no docs on how to fix if it breaks
L1645[18:43:29] <Kilobyte> arch: stuff breaks weekly, but there is tons of good docs how to fix
L1646[18:43:36] <Pontiac_AtWork> Slackware and Debian. Debian/Ubuntu has at times just not loaded at start up, and shutdown has been a problem. Both under VM and on metal.
L1647[18:43:43] <Pontiac_AtWork> Josh> I'm in the same boat.
L1648[18:44:01] <gamax92> Kilobyte: but see, this is where you merge the two. I've used arch's docs to fix non arch things.
L1649[18:44:05] <Kilobyte> ubuntu is known to commit cuicide
L1650[18:44:08] <Kilobyte> yes
L1651[18:44:16] <Kilobyte> arch docs are epic even for other distros
L1652[18:44:16] <Pontiac_AtWork> Kilo> I don't want to read up on how to fix things. I want to use the machine to do what I want to do.
L1653[18:44:29] <Kilobyte> i love tinkering with my machine
L1654[18:44:31] <gamax92> Pontiac_AtWork: "stuff breaks rarely"
L1655[18:44:42] <Kilobyte> and that
L1656[18:45:01] <Kilobyte> i personally recommend mint for users who don't want to fiddle with internals
L1657[18:45:11] <gamax92> :D mint
L1658[18:45:14] <Kilobyte> arch for people who love tinkering around
L1659[18:45:28] <JoshTheEnder> i did try installing that once, it got stuck on getting the java version or something
L1660[18:45:33] <Kilobyte> and gentoo for people who love tinkering around even more and have a looooot of patience
L1661[18:45:39] <JoshTheEnder> *installing mint
L1662[18:45:47] <Pontiac_AtWork> Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy linux as a server based platform. I run like 5 VMs doing different things, but none of them are for graphics.
L1663[18:45:50] <Kilobyte> apt-get install openjdk-jdk7
L1664[18:45:57] <Kilobyte> theres your java
L1665[18:46:03] <gamax92> I tried to run Arch on a wii
L1666[18:46:21] <gamax92> installing that is even more a pain in the ass then installing Arch in general
L1667[18:46:45] <Vexatos> I'll use Mint on my new PC
L1668[18:46:46] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, i meant the actuall LM installer (i.e. from the live cd) it had some output as if you had done java -version
L1669[18:46:50] <Vexatos> Looks really nice
L1670[18:46:58] <Vexatos> Easy-to-use
L1671[18:47:08] <Vexatos> somewhat windows++
L1672[18:47:12] <Kilobyte> it is :P
L1673[18:47:24] <Vexatos> In every way
L1674[18:47:28] <Kilobyte> my parents both use mint
L1675[18:47:29] <Vexatos> Better looking, faster, linux
L1676[18:47:30] <Vexatos> etc
L1677[18:47:32] <Kilobyte> they both love it
L1678[18:47:36] <gamax92> Yes, but MATE or Cinnamon?
L1679[18:47:46] <Vexatos> Cinnamon
L1680[18:47:51] <Vexatos> I really like the look of it
L1681[18:47:52] <Kilobyte> my parents are on MATE, haven't tried Cinnamon
L1682[18:47:59] <Kilobyte> i am on i3
L1683[18:48:01] <ds84182> Unless Joanna ruins everything.
L1684[18:48:09] <ds84182> Goddammit Joanna
L1685[18:48:16] <gamax92> I'm on MATE simply because it looks nice and does everything I ask it to.
L1686[18:48:17] <JoshTheEnder> also on my crappy laptop that cannot survive long enough to do a normal distribution I have Puppy Linux, brilliant for what I use to for (when i use it)
L1687[18:48:25] <robhol> yay! I actually got everything up and running, set up a computer in creative mode
L1688[18:48:37] * gamax92 puts robhol in a box
L1689[18:48:40] <JoshTheEnder> *long enough to install a normal disctribution
L1690[18:48:42] <robhol> D:
L1691[18:48:42] * gamax92 ships box to ocean
L1692[18:49:04] <robhol> just the basic prompt looks... rather cooler :3
L1693[18:49:38] <gamax92> Sangar: would it be possible to tell OC not to upscale the screen despite the screen being large enough to do so?
L1694[18:51:41] <Sangar> gamax92, well, you can set mc's gui scaling to 'normal' instead of 'auto'?
L1695[18:51:57] <gamax92> oh yeah
L1696[18:53:10] <Kilobyte> Sangar: http://strawpoll.me/2059271 voted yet? :P
L1697[18:53:41] <Sangar> there you go. i'm the only one that wants to save you work :P
L1698[18:53:52] <ds84182> Kilobyte: perserverpl0x
L1699[18:53:53] <Kilobyte> :P
L1700[18:54:11] <ds84182> I hated how CCDesk didn't fricken work offline because it required Lochie's friggen server
L1701[18:54:19] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i'll still need a good java/scala implementation (or ffi bindings) for scrypt
L1702[18:54:27] <Kilobyte> passwords have to be hashed properly
L1703[18:55:22] <gamax92> Kilobyte: doing the extra work now will save you people pestering you it doesn't because some global server is offline
L1704[18:55:32] <Kilobyte> hm
L1705[18:55:35] <Sangar> Kilobyte, just sum up the values of the chars :P good enough for this.
L1706[18:55:49] <gamax92> Sangar: And rotate them right?
L1707[18:55:59] <gamax92> I keep forgetting to comma
L1708[18:56:05] <Kilobyte> Sangar: the problem is, ppl might use password they use somewhere else
L1709[18:56:07] <Sangar> :P
L1710[18:56:22] <Kilobyte> if ANYTHING i will use SHA-2
L1711[18:56:33] <Sangar> yeah. in case it wasn't clear, i was not being serious :P
L1712[18:56:34] <Kilobyte> but i prefer a proper password hashing algo
L1713[18:56:43] <Kilobyte> no, it wasn't
L1714[18:57:01] <gamax92> lol
L1715[18:57:06] <Kilobyte> i use summing the ascii codes to hash irc nicks for coloring in my WIP webchat
L1716[18:57:18] <Sangar> i thought is was ridiculous enough >_>
L1717[18:57:25] <gamax92> http://strawpoll.me/2059354
L1718[18:57:26] <gamax92> Sangar: ^
L1719[18:57:57] <ds84182> gamax92: Yes
L1720[18:57:59] <Sangar> i'm fine with either.
L1721[18:58:04] <Sangar> so yes.
L1722[18:58:22] <Pontiac_AtWork> What is "VirtualOpenComputers"?
L1723[18:58:45] <Kilobyte> an OC emulator i am working on
L1724[18:58:53] <Kilobyte> idfk if it will ever become a thing
L1725[18:59:50] <Kilobyte> idk how i will do graphics
L1726[18:59:53] <Kilobyte> maybe SDL
L1727[18:59:54] <Pontiac_AtWork> Per server, with the reservation of it being allowed to be moved to a different server if needed.
L1728[19:00:07] <Kilobyte> Pontiac_AtWork: might allow that later on
L1729[19:00:51] <Vexatos> Haha
L1730[19:00:52] <Vexatos> https://twitter.com/minecraftcpw/status/485788217724379136
L1731[19:00:55] <Pontiac_AtWork> Well, moved or copied, more accurately. I'm trying to fathom in my head how something like that could be done.
L1732[19:00:57] <Vexatos> I like that third comment
L1733[19:01:11] <Kilobyte> i might allow ftp access to all drives you own
L1734[19:01:13] <Sangar> :D
L1735[19:01:15] <Kilobyte> or have access to
L1736[19:01:20] <Vexatos> Sangar: What's scala?
L1737[19:01:26] <Sangar> Vexatos, would have been even better if it'd been 'what's a scala' :P
L1738[19:01:45] <Kenny|AFK> KKilo, i'd say you'll being doing it per server hehe
L1739[19:01:46] <Vexatos> http://badum-tish.com/
L1740[19:01:46] <gamax92> Oh Briman ...
L1741[19:02:02] <Vexatos> Briman indeed
L1742[19:02:09] <Vexatos> Such a 0094 Lugia
L1743[19:02:16] <gamax92> Kenny|AFK: Cake or pie? [Y/N]
L1744[19:02:25] <Kilobyte> void kick(String reason) throws PermissionException;
L1745[19:02:33] <Hawk777> Kilobyte: why does an OC emulator need an account anywhere? Why can’t people just download it and run it on local files?
L1746[19:02:34] <Kilobyte> in user interface
L1747[19:02:34] <Kenny|AFK> <-- diabetic
L1748[19:02:41] <Kilobyte> Hawk777: no, you can
L1749[19:02:43] <Kenny|AFK> neither
L1750[19:02:48] <gamax92> Kenny|AFK: so thats a no?
L1751[19:02:49] <Kilobyte> but you can connect to a remote server
L1752[19:02:56] <Kilobyte> and then you need an account
L1753[19:03:07] <Hawk777> What services does the server provide?
L1754[19:03:17] <Kilobyte> its basicly like minecraft
L1755[19:03:25] <Kilobyte> you can play single player or multiplayer
L1756[19:03:41] <Hawk777> So you can collaborate with other people on writing code and running multiple computers in VOC by using a server?
L1757[19:03:47] <Kilobyte> yep
L1758[19:03:48] <gamax92> except minecraft has a global server and pisses off more people when its global server goes down
L1759[19:03:49] <Hawk777> Gotcha.
L1760[19:04:05] <Kilobyte> mc at least has offline mode
L1761[19:04:17] <Kilobyte> not like certain other games *cough*simcity*cough*
L1762[19:04:40] <Sangar> *cough*diablo3*cough*
L1763[19:04:47] <Pontiac_AtWork> They announced SC2013 does now.
L1764[19:05:00] <gamax92> *cough*cough*cough*
L1765[19:05:00] <Pontiac_AtWork> I'm still not going to play it as the cities are still rediculously small.
L1766[19:05:16] <Kilobyte> yeah true
L1767[19:05:26] <Sangar> yeah. and even the small cities are too large for the simulation to handle -.-
L1768[19:05:26] <Pontiac_AtWork> I'm one of the suckers that pre-ordered the $80 version.
L1769[19:05:29] <gamax92> so lets see, 5 people say yes, 2 peopel say no
L1770[19:05:41] <gamax92> CAKE AND PIE! for me not you.
L1771[19:05:43] <ds84182> I like the tilt shift effect
L1772[19:05:44] <Daiyousei> inb4 1cm city expansion pack for 99 euros
L1773[19:05:50] <ds84182> We need tilt shift in MC
L1774[19:05:58] <gamax92> we need garrys mod for mc
L1775[19:06:18] <Pontiac_AtWork> Never played garrys mod.
L1776[19:06:22] <Sangar> Daiyousei, isn't the accumulative dlc worth that much already? :P
L1777[19:06:26] <Pontiac_AtWork> Don't even think I pulled it up on youtube.
L1778[19:06:30] <Daiyousei> xD
L1779[19:06:38] <Pontiac_AtWork> Speaking of which... *kicks up youtube video deck*
L1780[19:06:40] <ds84182> Doesn't this look good? http://tiltshiftmaker.com/photos/manila.jpg
L1781[19:06:43] <Kilobyte> ok, i have 3 methiods that need permissions
L1782[19:06:49] <Kilobyte> void setDisplayName(String name) throws PermissionException;
L1783[19:06:49] <Kilobyte> void kick(String reason) throws PermissionException;
L1784[19:06:49] <Kilobyte> void delete() throws PermissionException;
L1785[19:06:58] <Kilobyte> all of them are part of User interface
L1786[19:07:08] *** Benguin[ZzZ] is now known as Benguin
L1787[19:07:20] <ds84182> You take a picture, and then you tilt it
L1788[19:08:45] <gamax92> public ds84182 workOn(OpenGX gxt3) throws TooLazyException
L1789[19:09:01] <ds84182> throw toolazy;
L1790[19:09:07] <Sangar> and the jdoc reads /** Always throws. */
L1791[19:09:13] <ds84182> I'm so lazy I made the object earlier
L1792[19:09:46] <Kilobyte> lazy User ds84182 = User.get('ds84182')
L1793[19:09:47] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ^
L1794[19:09:53] <Sangar> :P
L1795[19:10:03] * ds84182 pulls out a knife
L1796[19:10:12] <Kilobyte> self.protect!
L1797[19:10:13] <Sangar> Techokami, can you send me a build of the assertion-erroring version so i can debug with it?
L1798[19:10:23] <gamax92> I was going to work on my OPL3 simulator, but uhh ...
L1799[19:10:24] <gamax92> throw new TooLazyException();
L1800[19:10:24] <Techokami> sure thing
L1801[19:10:26] <ds84182> didujust
L1802[19:11:03] <Kilobyte> self.remove_method :kill
L1803[19:11:06] <Kilobyte> actually
L1804[19:11:15] <Kilobyte> self.remove_method :die
L1805[19:11:24] <Kilobyte> well, both works
L1806[19:11:27] <gamax92> Kilobyte is now an annotation
L1807[19:11:34] <Techokami> Sangar http://files.holenet.info/Computronics-0.5.0.jar 1.7.x
L1808[19:11:48] <Sangar> Techokami, thanks!
L1809[19:11:52] <Techokami> yep
L1810[19:12:39] <Techokami> Sangar http://pastebin.com/rdirC5pZ here's a simple testing program to use
L1811[19:12:55] <Sangar> yep, still had the tab open :)
L1812[19:13:03] <Techokami> it scans for all entities, then prints the table (feel free to pilfer the table printing)
L1813[19:13:34] <Techokami> it's a PHP-esque print_r
L1814[19:13:40] <Kilobyte> ewwwww php
L1815[19:13:47] <Techokami> I said "-esque"
L1816[19:13:59] <Techokami> >_>
L1817[19:14:07] <Kilobyte> heh, i have a pretty good one too
L1818[19:14:39] <Kilobyte> nvm i must have lost it
L1819[19:14:45] <Kilobyte> it could even handle recursion
L1820[19:14:47] <gamax92> Kilobyte: I have php style utf8 encoding and decoding functions for javascript
L1821[19:15:02] <Kilobyte> who even still uses php
L1822[19:15:06] <Kilobyte> let me correct myself
L1823[19:15:08] <gamax92> people who use php
L1824[19:15:10] <Kilobyte> what sane person does
L1825[19:15:14] <gamax92> people who use php
L1826[19:15:23] <Kenny|AFK> are crazy like me
L1827[19:15:33] <Kilobyte> there are many superiour alternatives
L1828[19:15:34] <gamax92> RHYMES
L1829[19:15:39] * gamax92 high fives Kenny|AFK
L1830[19:16:01] <Kilobyte> like ruby or node. i mean even python is better than php
L1831[19:16:16] <gamax92> Kilobyte: Brainfuck is better than php
L1832[19:16:19] <Kenny|AFK> <-- poet and didn't know it hehe
L1833[19:16:19] <Kilobyte> ^
L1834[19:16:34] <Kilobyte> well
L1835[19:16:41] <Techokami> I make PHP do bad things :)
L1836[19:16:41] <Kilobyte> at fucking your brain php is better
L1837[19:16:50] <gamax92> not sure about that.
L1838[19:16:58] <Techokami> http://holenet.info/downloads/
L1839[19:16:58] <gamax92> Most of your argument just sounds like bandwagon
L1840[19:17:47] <Kilobyte> system('find / -name php | xargs rm -rf')
L1841[19:17:48] <Kilobyte> ;
L1842[19:17:51] <Kilobyte> best php command
L1843[19:17:59] <gamax92> except thats not a php command
L1844[19:18:05] <Kilobyte> system is
L1845[19:18:11] <gamax92> ooooooh
L1846[19:18:14] <gamax92> okay then yes,
L1847[19:18:22] <Techokami> you're just executing shell commands, cheater :P
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L1849[19:18:56] <gamax92> Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API
L1850[19:19:29] <ds84182> LADSPI?
L1851[19:19:37] <gamax92> no, LADSPA
L1852[19:19:52] <Kilobyte> what should i make default kick reason btw?
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L1854[19:20:24] <Kilobyte> in VOC
L1855[19:20:24] <Sangar> Techokami, i can't work like this :P http://i.imgur.com/gdoLy8b.png (and yes, cc *is* present)
L1856[19:20:28] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ^
L1857[19:20:41] <Sangar> Kilobyte, rtfm?
L1858[19:20:47] <Kilobyte> nah
L1859[19:20:50] <Kilobyte> thats lame
L1860[19:20:51] <Sangar> rtfc?
L1861[19:20:56] <gamax92> Kilobyte: D: dat aliased anti aliased font
L1862[19:21:04] <Techokami> what the, hangon
L1863[19:21:31] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i wanna be semi insulting but not too insulting
L1864[19:21:56] <Kilobyte> GTFO?
L1865[19:22:06] <gamax92> "NO, BAD PLAYER"
L1866[19:22:19] <Kilobyte> player?
L1867[19:22:19] <Sangar> ... your statements appear to contradict themselves :P
L1868[19:22:29] <Kilobyte> lol
L1869[19:22:33] <Kilobyte> meh
L1870[19:22:53] <gamax92> .define player
L1871[19:22:56] <gamax92> v^: fix
L1872[19:23:04] <Sangar> "Connection lost: unknown protocol '1d107'"
L1873[19:23:21] <Techokami> Sangar, that doesn't happen with me O_o
L1874[19:23:28] <gamax92> 0x1D107
L1875[19:23:35] <Sangar> or that
L1876[19:23:38] <Sangar> Techokami, huh
L1877[19:23:46] <Sangar> maybe my cc version is outdated? *goes check*
L1878[19:23:54] <Techokami> good luck checking
L1879[19:24:06] <Sangar> oh well
L1880[19:24:07] <gamax92> Techokami: 0.5.0?
L1881[19:24:11] <Sangar> send me yours then :P
L1882[19:24:24] <Techokami> I don't have CC installed in my 1.7.10 instance
L1883[19:24:30] <Sangar> ah
L1884[19:24:33] <Sangar> i'll remove it then :>
L1885[19:24:51] <Sangar> that's on 1.7.2 btw
L1886[19:25:26] <Techokami> aha
L1887[19:26:16] <Vexatos> Sangar: Want something to laugh?
L1888[19:26:16] <Vexatos> https://github.com/Azanor/thaumcraft/pull/940
L1889[19:26:18] <Vexatos> read comments
L1890[19:26:34] <Sangar> Techokami, well, still happening. will try on 1.7.10.
L1891[19:27:14] <Sangar> Vexatos, lolwat
L1892[19:30:32] <Sangar> asie, the 1.7.10 links for AsieLib seem to be broken?
L1893[19:30:47] <asie> Sangar: huh?
L1894[19:31:09] <asie> they seem not to be uploaded
L1895[19:31:09] <asie> wat
L1896[19:32:06] <Kilobyte> Vexatos: damn you my head hurts
L1897[19:32:20] * Kilobyte totally didn't just face-beerbottle
L1898[19:32:23] *** Alissaway is now known as Alissa
L1899[19:33:15] <asie> Sangar: fixed
L1900[19:33:16] * Kilobyte kicks GameGamble in his butt
L1901[19:33:57] <Sangar> asie, thanks!
L1902[19:34:59] <Vexatos> Kilobyte: I know, right?
L1903[19:35:28] * JoshTheEnder wishes he was multilingual
L1904[19:35:37] <Kilobyte> Vexatos: "Please, don't try to translate a mod just from the look of items or their unlocalized name. You need to know the mod, ... It also needs to sound well when spoken. There's a lot of things to keep in mind when translating a mod." best quote ever
L1905[19:35:46] <Kilobyte> couldn't have worded it any better
L1906[19:36:19] <Kilobyte> JoshTheEnder: lol, wes start learning english in primary school here
L1907[19:36:28] <Kilobyte> for me i started when i was 8
L1908[19:36:33] <Kilobyte> thats 10 years ago
L1909[19:36:49] <Vexatos> Kilobyte: It's totally true
L1910[19:36:53] <Kilobyte> it is
L1911[19:37:12] <Sangar> Techokami, same error in 1.7.10
L1912[19:37:16] <Sangar> brb
L1913[19:37:31] <Techokami> O_o
L1914[19:37:39] <Techokami> bizzare!
L1915[19:37:54] <JoshTheEnder> Kilobyte, i dont think we learned languages in primary school. Or my brain is really shit at being multilingual
L1916[19:37:55] <JoshTheEnder> :/
L1917[19:38:09] <Techokami> I've uploaded the copy from my 1.7.10 install to the same URL, redownload and try again?
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L1919[19:38:49] <gamax92> .l 40865 - 41041
L1920[19:38:49] <^v> gamax92, -176
L1921[19:38:54] <gamax92> 176ms off.
L1922[19:38:58] <Dean4Devil> IMA BACK (you poor souls) }:D
L1923[19:39:04] * gamax92 puts Dean4Devil in a box
L1924[19:39:24] * Dean4Devil roles to a ball and goes to sleep
L1925[19:40:03] * JoshTheEnder transforms Dean4Devil into DeanIsACat
L1926[19:40:26] *** Dean4Devil is now known as DeanIsaCat
L1927[19:41:54] <Techokami> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tE78Og1MdSw
L1928[19:41:54] -Kibibyte- [Techokami] How Formula E sounds - Donington tests compilation | by tbiesbrouck | 45s | 2d0h ago | 11,282 views | Rated: 3.50/5.00
L1929[19:43:06] <Techokami> it's like F-Zero in real life
L1930[19:44:35] <gamax92> .l 1 / 1000 * 49716
L1931[19:44:35] <^v> gamax92, 49.716
L1932[19:44:40] <gamax92> oh right, ...
L1933[19:45:01] <gamax92> so 1 millisecond makes the difference between 50 samples, and this will most likely never work.
L1934[19:47:37] <asie> gamax92: buffering
L1935[19:47:40] <asie> that's how DFPWM works around it
L1936[19:47:48] <asie> there is a constant delay of by default 750 miliseconds
L1937[19:47:59] <gamax92> asie: You're streaming dfpwm
L1938[19:48:04] <asie> yup
L1939[19:48:04] <gamax92> I'm streaming commands
L1940[19:48:08] <asie> forget about it
L1941[19:48:14] <asie> stream the whole file if you wish
L1942[19:48:29] <Kilobyte> hmm
L1943[19:48:41] <Kilobyte> i might go with bouncycastle for encryption
L1944[19:49:05] <gamax92> asie: the entire dro?
L1945[19:49:26] <asie> gamax92: yes.
L1946[19:49:38] <asie> Kilobyte: perhaps look into Computronics's Cipher Block?
L1947[19:49:52] <Kilobyte> sure
L1948[19:50:21] <Kilobyte> i was considering kalium (aka libsodium), but that needs natives to be installed seperately
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L1950[19:51:24] <asie> if you need AES, I use AES
L1951[19:51:31] <asie> with only the stuff included with Minecraft
L1952[19:51:32] <gamax92> .l 182100/26784
L1953[19:51:32] <^v> gamax92, 6.798835125448
L1954[19:51:40] <Kilobyte> i want an assymetric encryption
L1955[19:51:50] <asie> javax.crypto might have something
L1956[19:51:55] <Sangar> Techokami, all right, seems the cc api changed again. i'll update it to what you have in computronics, that'll hopefully fix it.
L1957[19:52:09] <Techokami> ahaa
L1958[19:52:23] <asie> Sangar: what's in computronics is 1.64pr3
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L1960[19:52:33] <asie> it might be different from 1.63
L1961[19:52:42] <asie> but 1.64pr3 is the only 1.7.2 ver so
L1962[19:52:50] <Sangar> asie, right, the latest i had lying around is pr2. and the cc site is down :/
L1963[19:53:00] <asie> Sangar: hang on
L1964[19:53:05] <Sangar> so i'll happily take it from the computronics repo :D
L1965[19:53:12] <asie> Sangar: wait
L1966[19:53:19] <Sangar> why? is it bad?
L1967[19:53:28] <Techokami> the cc website is held together with string, farts, and CloudFlare
L1968[19:53:29] <asie> Sangar: http://www.mediafire.com/download/e5pbk8ulflvgede/ComputerCraft1.64pr3.jar
L1969[19:53:33] <asie> here's the whole thing
L1970[19:53:41] <Sangar> ah, great! thanks :)
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L1972[19:54:16] <Techokami> note that this CC will NOT work in 1.7.10 (all the blocks use getAABBPool)
L1973[19:54:45] <Sangar> ok
L1974[19:54:47] <gamax92> what does 1.7.10 use instead of AABB?
L1975[19:54:59] <asie> it uses AABB
L1976[19:55:02] <asie> but in new ways
L1977[19:55:05] <gamax92> oh
L1978[19:55:12] <Sangar> it just dropped the 'pools'
L1979[19:55:16] <gamax92> Could one make a wrapper?
L1980[19:56:10] <Techokami> instead of getAABBPool there's getBoundingBox
L1981[19:56:16] <Techokami> which does the same thing
L1982[19:56:19] <Sangar> yay, the error is gone
L1983[19:56:23] <Techokami> :D
L1984[19:56:24] <Sangar> all right then
L1985[19:56:29] <Alissa> asie, instead of sharing a private beta version with a channel for a different mod, PM him next time.
L1986[19:57:43] <gamax92> Alissa: you mean the beta you can just grab off of cc's site and its not really private at all?
L1987[19:58:01] <gamax92> except cc's site is down and asie's being nice?
L1988[19:58:01] <asie> Alissa: the link is public
L1989[19:58:03] <asie> second page on Google
L1990[19:58:08] <asie> http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1210470-Fuzzzie-s-1-7-x-Mod-List
L1991[19:58:29] <asie> :-)
L1992[19:58:56] <asie> or
L1993[19:59:02] <asie> you can grab it from one of the multiple Technic modpacks which include it
L1994[19:59:18] <asie> or this MCUpdater pack -> http://minecraft.usinacraft.ch/ressources/
L1995[19:59:20] <DeanIsaCat> Kilobyte: Did you find assymetric encryption that suits you?
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L1997[19:59:36] <Sangar> either way, Techokami i don't get assertionerrors D: how did you do it?
L1998[19:59:57] <asie> Alissa: if the beta version were actually private, i wouldn't have shared it publicly
L1999[19:59:59] <Kilobyte> DeanIsaCat: no
L2000[20:00:06] <asie> but as nobody seems to care...
L2001[20:00:09] <DeanIsaCat> What do you want to do with it?
L2002[20:00:31] <gamax92> asie: hmm, but to avoid flooding the client, I would have to also simulate delays on the server.
L2003[20:00:41] <asie> gamax92: or just preload all the audio
L2004[20:00:57] <gamax92> asie: preload the audio on the server?
L2005[20:01:02] <asie> yes
L2006[20:01:18] <gamax92> I would do that if it wasn't already slightly intensive.
L2007[20:01:28] <DeanIsaCat> Kilobyte: What do you want to do with it?
L2008[20:01:37] <Kilobyte> DeanIsaCat: encryption for network protocol of VirtualOpenComputers
L2009[20:01:58] <DeanIsaCat> Kilobyte: Why assymetric?
L2010[20:02:06] <Kilobyte> because then i can use key auth
L2011[20:02:07] <gamax92> actually, how intensive is it ...
L2012[20:02:16] <Kilobyte> so i don't have to store the password
L2013[20:02:18] <DeanIsaCat> DH + RC Stream Cipher
L2014[20:02:28] <DeanIsaCat> One time key
L2015[20:02:29] <Kilobyte> RC == RC4?
L2016[20:02:41] <DeanIsaCat> RC4 is broken
L2017[20:02:43] <Kilobyte> ^
L2018[20:02:53] <DeanIsaCat> RC5? :P
L2019[20:02:54] <Kilobyte> thats why i asked if you meant that
L2020[20:02:59] <Kilobyte> idk, never heard of it
L2021[20:03:02] <Techokami> Sangar: use the Robot Upgrade version in a robot
L2022[20:03:10] <Sangar> Techokami, ah, right
L2023[20:03:11] <Techokami> do note it's a Tier 3 upgrade
L2024[20:03:26] <DeanIsaCat> RC goes from 1 to 6 iirc
L2025[20:03:26] <Techokami> so use a Tier 3 or Creative Robot
L2026[20:03:35] <Kilobyte> DeanIsaCat: i usually use libsodium
L2027[20:03:46] <Kilobyte> it takes care to pick the right algorithm for me
L2028[20:04:02] <Techokami> also, I used the upgrade in a Tier 3 Upgrade Slot, not compiled into the robot
L2029[20:04:17] ⇦ Parts: Vex|Mobile (~Vexatos@p200300556E687A1984E31865DC6EFD98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ())
L2030[20:04:19] <DeanIsaCat> Yeah, but Network protocol in assymetric is probably not a that good idea
L2031[20:04:21] <Techokami> dunno if that will make a difference
L2032[20:04:32] <Techokami> I also decked my robot out
L2033[20:04:56] <DeanIsaCat> RC* is as a stream-cipher very good at networking (thats why its very common nowadays)
L2034[20:04:58] <Sangar> Techokami, got it, good, let's see then...
L2035[20:04:59] <Kilobyte> DeanIsaCat: libsodium actually uses symmetric encryption iirc
L2036[20:05:15] <Kilobyte> it calculates the symmetric key from senders private and receivers public key
L2037[20:05:49] <Kilobyte> the receiver can get same symmetric key by using his private key and the senders public one
L2038[20:05:57] <DeanIsaCat> Sodium is NaCl in portable == very good lib :P
L2039[20:06:04] <Kilobyte> ^
L2040[20:06:23] <Kilobyte> but it needs natives seperately installed if i use kalium
L2041[20:06:30] <Kilobyte> (java ffi wrapper)
L2042[20:06:47] <DeanIsaCat> you might want to have a look at OTR (Off-The-Record)
L2043[20:07:02] <Kilobyte> i know OTR, but eh
L2044[20:07:08] <Kilobyte> might just add encryption later
L2045[20:07:15] <Kilobyte> for now focus on functionality
L2046[20:07:29] <DeanIsaCat> Bouncycastle has everything you need btw.
L2047[20:07:52] <Kilobyte> i looked at that but it looks like not very easy to use
L2048[20:08:01] <Kilobyte> so i figured i'd try that out later
L2049[20:08:45] <DeanIsaCat> It very big and maybe even bloated
L2050[20:09:07] <DeanIsaCat> you'd use only a very small fraction of its possibilities
L2051[20:09:17] <Kilobyte> hmm
L2052[20:10:03] <DeanIsaCat> javax.crypto (like asi_e) said could also help
L2053[20:10:18] <Kilobyte> haven't used that at all
L2054[20:10:39] <DeanIsaCat> but there is a reason there still exists bouncycastle, so....
L2055[20:11:12] <asie> DeanIsaCat: *sigh*
L2056[20:11:13] <asie> ping me all you want
L2057[20:11:18] <asie> i like being pinged :)
L2058[20:11:22] <DeanIsaCat> asie
L2059[20:11:24] <Kilobyte> asie
L2060[20:11:26] <gamax92> asie
L2061[20:11:29] <asie> asie
L2062[20:11:31] <asie> wait
L2063[20:11:32] <asie> shit.
L2064[20:11:35] <gamax92> lol
L2065[20:12:04] <Kilobyte> DeanIsaCat: current api https://github.com/Kilobyte22/VirtualOC
L2066[20:12:11] <DeanIsaCat> Kilobyte: Is you protocol over the (real) interwebs?
L2067[20:12:12] <gamax92> asie: anyway no interest, too much cpu usage.
L2068[20:12:14] <Kilobyte> yes
L2069[20:12:21] <gamax92> didn't realize it sucked up so much
L2070[20:12:21] <DeanIsaCat> uhm, SSL?
L2071[20:12:36] <Kilobyte> last time i tried java + ssl i ragequit
L2072[20:13:01] <DeanIsaCat> oh
L2073[20:13:03] <DeanIsaCat> well...
L2074[20:13:39] <asie> computronics 0.5.0 teaser! http://goo.gl/0Ax18q
L2075[20:13:48] <DeanIsaCat> Does anyone play the divinity series?
L2076[20:13:58] <asie> :^)
L2077[20:14:00] <asie> and now i'm off
L2078[20:14:03] <gamax92> asie: hate
L2079[20:14:04] <gamax92> u
L2080[20:14:19] <asie> gamax92: you have to watch it until the end now
L2081[20:14:28] <asie> i know, i know you might not like the power usage in radars
L2082[20:14:32] <gamax92> asie: at least its not as bad as v^
L2083[20:14:32] <asie> but there's some fun stuff at the end
L2084[20:16:41] <DeanIsaCat> Kilobyte: So you want a web based service for OC or how do i have to understand this?
L2085[20:17:15] <binaryblade> so, why do java array produce and extra entry into the table when returned from OC, specifically the "n" key
L2086[20:17:34] <Kilobyte> its basicly an emulator. however you can run it offline on your machine or you can connect to a remote server to share OC computers with your friends
L2087[20:17:40] <DeanIsaCat> oh
L2088[20:17:43] <DeanIsaCat> makes sense
L2089[20:17:48] <Kilobyte> binaryblade: its the length
L2090[20:18:01] <gamax92> but "why"
L2091[20:18:08] <binaryblade> I know its the length but a lua style array does not have it
L2092[20:18:12] <Kilobyte> if you don't have an n key it will stop at the first nil entry
L2093[20:18:21] <Kilobyte> with n key it won't
L2094[20:18:50] <DeanIsaCat> Kilobyte: sooo, do you want me to hack some java crypto for you to use?
L2095[20:19:12] <Kilobyte> that would be epic :P
L2096[20:19:17] <Kilobyte> do it in scala though :P
L2097[20:19:48] <Kilobyte> wouldn't make sense to have the crypto part java when the rest is scala
L2098[20:19:48] <DeanIsaCat> Scala? Then i would prob ragequit xD
L2099[20:19:52] <Kilobyte> (only api is java)
L2100[20:19:56] <DeanIsaCat> oh
L2101[20:19:59] <DeanIsaCat> ok, ill try
L2102[20:20:35] <Kilobyte> ask sangar if you have issues (read a tuturial first)
L2103[20:20:48] <Kilobyte> hes our local scala pro
L2104[20:21:26] <gamax92> Kilobyte: here, you can understand scala, how does the Machine api work.
L2105[20:21:35] <Kilobyte> ?
L2106[20:21:46] <gamax92> oc's Machine and Architecture api
L2107[20:22:10] <Sangar> Techokami, all right, congratulations for finding one of the most obscure bugs yet :P i think i know how to fix it tho.
L2108[20:22:13] <Kilobyte> never worked with it
L2109[20:22:29] <Techokami> wooo!
L2110[20:22:57] * Techokami does a VICTORY POSE
L2111[20:22:58] <gamax92> Sangar is the only one, and there are virtually no docs besides "Don't extend/implement this"
L2112[20:23:12] <gamax92> or maybe that wasn't OC
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L2114[20:23:54] <v^> Fuqayou gamax92
L2115[20:24:31] <gamax92> v^: what
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L2117[20:25:17] <Kilobyte> gah
L2118[20:25:25] <Kilobyte> soon the hard part will begin
L2119[20:25:30] <Kilobyte> networking is easy
L2120[20:25:35] * gamax92 stabs v^
L2121[20:25:46] <Kilobyte> but then i need to pull up rendering and the lua vm stuff
L2122[20:25:46] <Sangar> Techokami, if i'm right, the issue is basically that you're calling pause in a direct call (which should work, ofc, it's just something i never did before :P)
L2123[20:26:44] <Kilobyte> meh, time 4 break
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L2126[20:27:42] <gamax92> Techokami: oh, remember that lzss thing?
L2127[20:28:58] <gamax92> no?
L2128[20:29:33] <gamax92> k
L2129[20:29:43] <gamax92> asie: Wanna write an decompression routine?
L2130[20:32:16] <Techokami> back
L2131[20:32:23] <Techokami> what about it
L2132[20:32:39] <gamax92> Techokami: I found my skyroads files.
L2133[20:32:44] <Techokami> neato
L2134[20:32:57] <gamax92> Techokami: soooo .... I need to do that decompression thingy ...
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L2136[20:33:48] <gamax92> MUZAK.LZS
L2137[20:33:56] <Techokami> http://wiki.xentax.com/index.php?title=LZSS#Decompression
L2138[20:34:17] <gamax92> Techokami: its not the same
L2139[20:34:37] <Techokami> but it's the gist for how to write a decompressor
L2140[20:35:02] * gamax92 throws a table at Techokami
L2141[20:35:12] <Techokami> read in some bytes, apply the compression in reverse
L2142[20:35:22] * Techokami catches table and sets it down gently
L2143[20:35:27] <Techokami> thanks for the table
L2144[20:35:41] <gamax92> Techokami: You make me sad.
L2145[20:36:03] <Techokami> sorries
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L2148[20:43:14] <Sangar> Techokami, fixed it :)
L2149[20:43:21] <Techokami> :D
L2150[20:43:43] <Techokami> once it appears in the OC repo I'll grab the code to merge into my fork
L2151[20:43:52] <Sangar> already up
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L2154[20:47:11] <gamax92> "DMA segbound wrapping (read): 10000:10000 size 1 [0] wrap ffff"
L2155[20:47:19] <gamax92> Sangar: This is thrown when I used OC
L2156[20:47:47] <Sangar> wat
L2157[20:52:20] <Techokami> Sangar, can I please bum a build off you? https://github.com/Techokami/OpenComputers/tree/MC1.7
L2158[20:52:50] <Sangar> yeah
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L2160[20:53:46] <gamax92> "DMA segbound wrapping (read): 10000:10000 size 1 [0] wrap ffff" DOSBox wat r u doing
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L2163[21:04:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: soon i will implement the actual emulation. what order should i do, first lua vm, then rendering or other way round?
L2164[21:05:22] <Sangar> whatever you feel like :P i think i started with the vm, because it's more... essential, and can be tested with simple printlns.
L2165[21:05:31] <Kilobyte> true
L2166[21:06:01] <Kilobyte> meh, first gotta implement networking
L2167[21:06:26] <Sangar> haha
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L2169[21:09:15] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how does your packet system work btw
L2170[21:09:26] <Techokami> alright, can confirm the bug is fixed :D
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L2172[21:10:04] <Sangar> Kilobyte, simple header + data of known format (data written using dataoutputstream)
L2173[21:10:19] <Kilobyte> well, how is it implemented i mean
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L2175[21:11:18] <Sangar> if you're asking implementation details, see the PacketSender/PacketHandler in client and server
L2176[21:12:29] <Kilobyte> kk
L2177[21:13:56] <Kilobyte> Sangar: is it bad that when i type 'git' into my address bar it autocompletes to oc repo?
L2178[21:14:06] <Sangar> :D
L2179[21:14:08] <Kilobyte> does that for quite some time already
L2180[21:14:21] <Kilobyte> and g goes to gist.github.com
L2181[21:14:38] <DeanIsaCat> For me too. And that with several other "important" projects up on git.... ._.
L2182[21:14:40] <Kilobyte> btw, i lost the game
L2183[21:14:50] <Sangar> g is already oc for me :P
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L2185[21:14:58] <DeanIsaCat> damned! i lost the game!
L2186[21:15:08] <Sangar> so many losers
L2187[21:15:18] <DeanIsaCat> well yeah ty .-.
L2188[21:15:30] <Kilobyte> sangar kinda lost it too
L2189[21:15:37] <Sangar> yeh
L2190[21:15:44] <Kilobyte> you have to state that ;)
L2191[21:15:52] <Sangar> second entry for g is the issues page for oc >_>
L2192[21:15:55] <DeanIsaCat> 68 Users, 12 Voiced & 4 ops lost the game to be precise :P
L2193[21:15:59] <Sangar> i implied it :P
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L2196[21:17:06] <DeanIsaCat> Maxwolf *poke*
L2197[21:17:13] <Maxwolf> Heya :)
L2198[21:17:21] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i cannot find PacketParser :/
L2199[21:17:29] <Sangar> oheythere Maxwolf :)
L2200[21:17:30] <DeanIsaCat> On a completely unrelated notice: You lost the game
L2201[21:17:31] <v^> >_>
L2202[21:17:35] <v^> gamax92, what did my friend say
L2203[21:17:39] <v^> he was using computer
L2204[21:17:41] <Sangar> Kilobyte, uhm, maybe in common?
L2205[21:17:43] <Kilobyte> nor PacketBuilder
L2206[21:17:45] <Kilobyte> maybe
L2207[21:18:07] <Kilobyte> ah, PacketBuilder is there
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L2209[21:18:57] * Kilobyte steals Sangars networking code for own purposes
L2210[21:18:58] <Kilobyte> jk
L2211[21:19:26] <JoshTheEnder> https://i.imgur.com/GFYBR2y.png
L2212[21:19:33] * DeanIsaCat wonders how you can "steal" open source code
L2213[21:19:40] <Sangar> Kilobyte, go ahead, but i'm sure you could come up with something better tailored to your needs :P
L2214[21:20:05] * Kilobyte steals DeanIsaCat
L2215[21:20:21] * DeanIsaCat is absolutey taken by Kilobyte
L2216[21:20:23] <Kilobyte> Sangar: yeah, but the general idea is good
L2217[21:20:30] <Kilobyte> that sounds so wrong xD
L2218[21:20:37] <DeanIsaCat> yeah, yeah it does :D
L2219[21:20:52] <Sangar> get a room :P
L2220[21:20:57] <DeanIsaCat> later
L2221[21:21:01] <DeanIsaCat> gota code
L2222[21:21:15] <Kilobyte> *gotta </spelling nazi mode>
L2223[21:21:15] <gamax92> Sangar: ahh, nothing like good ol DMA overflows.
L2224[21:21:33] <Sangar> gamax92, sounds... fun? maybe? :P
L2225[21:21:51] <gamax92> no, it causes skyroads to play random garbage for sound effects
L2226[21:21:54] * DeanIsaCat slaps Kilobyte-Nazi
L2227[21:22:54] <Kilobyte> hey, i am no nazi, i just act like one... a small difference
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L2229[21:23:03] <Sangar> ah, random sound garbage is sad
L2230[21:24:07] <DeanIsaCat> A german that acts like a nazi and a german that IS a nazi is not that big of a difference (jk, you cool)
L2231[21:24:26] <Kilobyte> sangar.spam_with Stream::Sound.new(File.open '/dev/urandom')
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L2233[21:24:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: sorry mate :P
L2234[21:25:15] <Sangar> :P
L2235[21:25:45] <Kilobyte> Sangar: pipe /dev/urandom into sound device file
L2236[21:25:58] <Kilobyte> SOUNDSPAM * 9001
L2237[21:26:15] <Sangar> nah, not a nice kind of noise :P
L2238[21:26:23] <gamax92> there, put the SB16 at an odd address and then messed up the BLASTER variable
L2239[21:26:38] <gamax92> so now no pcm and no dma garbage
L2240[21:27:20] <v^> Kilobyte, does nothing for me
L2241[21:27:55] <Kilobyte> if you have pulse that won't work
L2242[21:28:07] <Kilobyte> not sure if it works if also is installed
L2243[21:28:10] <Kilobyte> it might noz
L2244[21:28:19] <Kilobyte> *alsa
L2245[21:28:29] <gamax92> Kilobyte: sound device file? like /dev/dsp?
L2246[21:28:33] <Kilobyte> yeah
L2247[21:28:35] <v^> gamax92, yes
L2248[21:28:37] <Kilobyte> i think thats it
L2249[21:28:40] <gamax92> u OSS?
L2250[21:28:48] <Kilobyte> ?
L2251[21:28:52] <gamax92> thats OSS stuff
L2252[21:29:04] <Kilobyte> OSS?
L2253[21:29:09] <gamax92> Open Sound System
L2254[21:29:13] <Kilobyte> ah
L2255[21:30:40] <gamax92> v^: avplay :D
L2256[21:30:59] <v^> gamax92, ik
L2257[21:31:03] <v^> avplay is ftw
L2258[21:31:15] <gamax92> Kilobyte: avplay -ac 1 -ar 8000 -f u8 -i /dev/urandom
L2259[21:31:37] * Kilobyte is scared
L2260[21:31:41] <v^> Kilobyte, ikr
L2261[21:31:46] <v^> its fine though
L2262[21:31:53] <v^> unless you arent on ubuntu
L2263[21:32:03] <gamax92> other distros have avplay
L2264[21:32:06] <v^> >_>
L2265[21:32:08] <gamax92> or alternatively ffplay
L2266[21:32:22] <Kilobyte> installing it
L2267[21:33:27] <Kilobyte> ffplay did the job
L2268[21:34:25] <v^> ls -R / | avplay -ac 1 -ar 8000 -f u8 -i /dev/stdin
L2269[21:35:59] <Kilobyte> xD
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L2271[21:37:58] <DeanIsaCat> since /dev/urandom is a cryptographically strong random generator, shouldnt that be white noise=
L2272[21:38:00] <DeanIsaCat> ?
L2273[21:38:09] <v^> >_> it is
L2274[21:38:11] <Kilobyte> ^
L2275[21:38:37] <v^> it doesnt look like it because its lower frequency
L2276[21:38:50] <v^> avplay -ac 1 -ar 80000 -f u8 -i /dev/urandom
L2277[21:38:56] <gamax92> >_> why 80000
L2278[21:39:02] <v^> more white noiseish
L2279[21:39:03] <gamax92> 44100 kthx
L2280[21:39:28] <Kilobyte> yes. white noise
L2281[21:39:36] * Kilobyte goes to repair headphones
L2282[21:39:56] <v^> avplay -ac 1 -ar 44100 -f u8 -i /dev/urandom -ac 2
L2283[21:40:01] <v^> is a headache for some reason
L2284[21:40:02] <Kilobyte> s/av/ff
L2285[21:40:08] <gamax92> v^: because dual channel
L2286[21:40:12] <v^> gamax92, i know
L2287[21:40:14] <gamax92> ... you left the -ac 1
L2288[21:40:25] <v^> lololololo
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L2290[21:43:09] <gamax92> .l 91571 * 0.7
L2291[21:43:09] <^v> gamax92, 64099.7
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L2293[21:44:14] <Kilobyte> Sangar: slooowly i am adding a packet system xD
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L2295[21:46:34] <Kilobyte> Sangar: so, even searching the repo didn't find me the PacketParser class
L2296[21:47:43] <Kilobyte> hmm
L2297[21:47:50] * Kilobyte opens project in intellij
L2298[21:48:58] <Sangar> it's probably an inner class hiding somewhere >_>
L2299[21:49:18] <gamax92> Theres only so many places it could go wrong.
L2300[21:51:47] <Kilobyte> Sangar: yeah, intellij found it
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L2303[21:52:20] <gamax92> .l 7 == 7 == true ~= false
L2304[21:52:20] <^v> gamax92, true
L2305[21:53:32] <Kilobyte> .l because = lua = is = derpy = this = will = "error"
L2306[21:53:32] <^v> Kilobyte, lua:1: unexpected symbol near '='
L2307[21:53:52] <Kilobyte> see?
L2308[21:53:53] <gamax92> Kilobyte: LuaJ, where strings can share the same array
L2309[21:53:54] <DeanIsaCat> wait what?
L2310[21:54:35] <Kilobyte> in lua i'd have to write
L2311[21:55:03] <Kilobyte> .l because, lua, is, derpy, this, will = "error", "error", "error", "error", "error", "error"
L2312[21:55:03] <^v> Kilobyte, nil
L2313[21:55:17] <gamax92> LuaStrings have this array of bytes, a length, and an offset. When you did string.sub it would just generate a new string using the same byte array but with different offsets and lengths
L2314[21:55:30] <gamax92> problem is certain things do not respect the offset, like string.find
L2315[21:55:32] <Pontiac_AtWork> ^v has no opinion
L2316[21:55:40] <Kilobyte> gamax92: G. G.
L2317[21:55:56] <Kilobyte> thats just an hilarious bug
L2318[21:56:03] <gamax92> It's been fixed in OC
L2319[21:56:29] <Kilobyte> so, ("abbbb"):sub(3):match('a') would succeed?
L2320[21:56:35] <Kilobyte> *find
L2321[21:56:48] <gamax92> uhh, iirc match and find use the same implementation, so maybe yes.
L2322[21:57:11] * Kilobyte is laying on his keyboard laughing right now
L2323[21:57:29] <LordFokas> that completely defeats the point of having an offset in the first place lol
L2324[21:57:35] <DeanIsaCat> Lua is ....
L2325[21:57:43] <Kilobyte> luaj mainly
L2326[21:57:45] <gamax92> ^
L2327[21:57:49] <Kilobyte> lua is implemented correctly
L2328[21:57:59] <v^> LuaJIT is the best implementation
L2329[21:57:59] <Kilobyte> sure, the syntax isn't the nicest
L2330[21:58:04] <DeanIsaCat> Lua still is weird
L2331[21:58:13] <Kilobyte> yeah, but luajit cannot be persisted
L2332[21:58:14] <DeanIsaCat> array start at 1?
L2333[21:58:17] <Kilobyte> ^
L2334[21:58:19] <DeanIsaCat> like what?
L2335[21:58:22] <Kilobyte> i agree on that one
L2336[21:58:24] <gamax92> well yeah thats weird
L2337[21:58:26] <Maxwolf> lol lots of languages do that
L2338[21:58:29] <Kilobyte> no
L2339[21:58:30] <Maxwolf> Index changes
L2340[21:58:32] <Kilobyte> i know 2
L2341[21:58:39] <v^> in luajit you just freeze the process ;-;
L2342[21:58:39] <Maxwolf> Java is one of them
L2343[21:58:42] <Kilobyte> BASIC (which is no real language)
L2344[21:58:44] <Kilobyte> no?!
L2345[21:58:48] <Kilobyte> java uses 0
L2346[21:58:49] <gamax92> wot, java starts from 0?
L2347[21:58:52] <DeanIsaCat> ^
L2348[21:59:01] <ds84182> http://imgur.com/gallery/eWSu5
L2349[21:59:03] <v^> indexes should start at 0.5
L2350[21:59:10] <ds84182> gamax92: oh my god
L2351[21:59:11] <Maxwolf> We init an array 1 to get element 0
L2352[21:59:13] <ds84182> you poor child
L2353[21:59:17] <DeanIsaCat> Like, script languages in comparison, lua nearly always is the odd one out ._.
L2354[21:59:29] <Kilobyte> Maxwolf: yes, thats the LENGTH
L2355[21:59:32] <Maxwolf> lol
L2356[21:59:39] <Maxwolf> Just as stupid as what you just described
L2357[21:59:40] <v^> PHP....
L2358[21:59:54] <gamax92> Maxwolf: why is that stupid?
L2359[21:59:57] <gamax92> its the length
L2360[22:00:03] <Maxwolf> I know what it is, the first element is in the array is 0
L2361[22:00:10] <Maxwolf> However to create it we could with +1
L2362[22:00:12] <Maxwolf> *count
L2363[22:00:15] <DeanIsaCat> Didn't we agree to not talk about stupid mutational crap that calls itself language v^ ?
L2364[22:00:16] <Maxwolf> It's just weird
L2365[22:00:23] <Maxwolf> Like your Lua 'complaint'
L2366[22:00:25] <v^> DeanIsaCat, ;-; i dont remember
L2367[22:00:46] <Kilobyte> Maxwolf: tell me one language which doesn't do it that way
L2368[22:00:53] <v^> the reason indexes start at at 0 is because offsets are more efficient
L2369[22:01:00] <Kilobyte> ones where index starts at 0 that is
L2370[22:01:42] <v^> >_> if indexes started at one on a low level language it would have to constantly subtract one when indexing an array
L2371[22:01:53] <Kilobyte> ^
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L2373[22:01:59] <DeanIsaCat> ^
L2374[22:02:10] <Maxwolf> Or we could reference it by length itself. Element 1 is index 1. It's subjective.
L2375[22:02:36] <Maxwolf> I just said it was weird, not that something is wrong with programming.
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L2377[22:02:41] <v^> indexes starting at 1 are easier for people to understand
L2378[22:02:49] <Kilobyte> imo its not weird at all
L2379[22:02:55] <gamax92> no bits is 0, not 1
L2380[22:03:00] <DeanIsaCat> Yeah, but *most* ppl are used to arrays starting at 0
L2381[22:03:03] <Maxwolf> Well I feel the same way about the Lua array thing, it's not really a big deal.
L2382[22:03:13] <Maxwolf> Just something you remember and move on with your life
L2383[22:03:15] <v^> ive seen people complain when learning java for the first time
L2384[22:03:16] <v^> >_>
L2385[22:03:30] <Kilobyte> their problem
L2386[22:03:44] <Kilobyte> programmers usually start counting with 0
L2387[22:03:58] <Maxwolf> Aye, I have been forced to do this also over the years
L2388[22:04:22] <v^> i dont have trouble coding in other langs with indexes at 0
L2389[22:04:27] <Maxwolf> Neither do I
L2390[22:04:30] <Kilobyte> same
L2391[22:04:38] <DeanIsaCat> also, why does lua not have a switch statement?? ._.
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L2393[22:04:45] <Kilobyte> because it doesn't
L2394[22:04:53] <Kilobyte> idfk
L2395[22:05:01] <DeanIsaCat> or continue
L2396[22:05:09] <Kilobyte> thats a more annoying one
L2397[22:05:16] <Daiyousei> Because lua
L2398[22:05:24] <v^> or break<number>
L2399[22:05:29] <gamax92> I can sorta simulate continue using lua 5.2's goto's
L2400[22:05:30] <Kilobyte> because it means i have to use *sigh* goto
L2401[22:05:40] <v^> <_> all these things are possible without changing the bytecode
L2402[22:05:57] <Kilobyte> yup
L2403[22:06:13] <Kilobyte> but the bytecode isn't intended to be stable anyways
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L2405[22:07:20] <v^> lets see how long it takes me to implement switch in 51
L2406[22:07:45] <Kilobyte> as syntax element or using existing functions?
L2407[22:08:16] <gamax92> Kilobyte: http://hastebin.com/momecavivi.txt
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L2410[22:09:24] <Kilobyte> lol...
L2411[22:09:42] <Dean4Devil> blame my isp .-.
L2412[22:09:57] <Pontiac_AtWork> I blame your ISP for breaking my car bumper.
L2413[22:10:13] <Dean4Devil> im fine with that
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L2415[22:12:02] <gamax92> so it seems string.find/string.match are partially correct, where i cannot find the supposedly non existent bytes in the string. However the position of things it should normally find are off.
L2416[22:13:54] <Pontiac_AtWork> I wanna go home.
L2417[22:13:58] <gamax92> go home then
L2418[22:14:45] <Pontiac_AtWork> I would, but, being the only one for tier 2 support, and abandoning the desk won't look good at my next interview. :P
L2419[22:16:33] <Kilobyte> ouch
L2420[22:17:52] * Pontiac_AtWork plays some more DW MC and sees if he can figure out why his AE system won't smelt cacti
L2421[22:19:22] <Dean4Devil> Well anyway, gonna get some sleep now. Night everybody
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L2424[22:25:12] <gamax92> XD
L2425[22:25:20] <gamax92> v^: you're gonna love this bug
L2426[22:25:54] <gamax92> Kilobyte, v^: http://hastebin.com/wayihamune.txt
L2427[22:26:20] <v^> >_> print isnt javaside?
L2428[22:26:21] <v^> D:
L2429[22:26:28] <Kilobyte> it is
L2430[22:26:30] <gamax92> it is, but it relies on tostring
L2431[22:26:33] <Kilobyte> but apperently ^
L2432[22:26:48] <Kilobyte> thats just ridiculous
L2433[22:27:15] <v^> why does it try to get tostring though
L2434[22:27:16] <gamax92> note I'm also testing this in 2.0.3, which it may be fixed in later versions.
L2435[22:27:18] <v^> >_>
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L2437[22:28:42] <gamax92> alright, indexOf is still broken in the LuaJ OC uses.
L2438[22:29:56] <gamax92> v^: :D it does the same in the newer LuaJ
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L2440[22:34:33] <ds84182> http://imgur.com/gallery/5XLUt2f
L2441[22:35:53] <gamax92> sadly, print is the only function that does that.
L2442[22:41:41] <gamax92> Samgar
L2443[22:46:58] <gamax92> Sangar: Ehh, is there no .gitignore?
L2444[22:47:43] <Sangar> yeah, i never commit it because it usually contains some more stuff i have lying around :P
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L2446[22:52:02] <Kilobyte> Sangar: have you ever played super hostile btw?
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L2448[22:58:26] <Sangar> Kilobyte, i don't think so. doesn't ring a bell at least.
L2449[22:58:47] <Kilobyte> a series of adventure maps that are extremely challenging
L2450[22:58:48] <Sangar> actually it does, but only the name iteself
L2451[22:58:53] <Sangar> ah
L2452[22:59:16] <Kilobyte> like, the map has probably a couple hundred to thousand spawners
L2453[22:59:32] <Kilobyte> among those are stuff like invincible lightning creepers
L2454[22:59:39] <dmod_> Sangar: do you have a patreon?
L2455[23:00:05] <Sangar> dmod_, nope :P
L2456[23:00:14] <Sangar> Kilobyte, sounds crazy >_>
L2457[23:00:15] <Kilobyte> Sangar: and you should always watch out when mining stone, it could be silverfish stone
L2458[23:00:17] * dmod_ looks at Sangar
L2459[23:01:08] <Kenny> Sangar, want to pay for the rest of your college and then some?
L2460[23:01:16] <Kenny> :)
L2461[23:01:27] <Kenny> start a patreon page :)
L2462[23:01:57] <Sangar> meh, i want to avoid the (sub)concious sense of obligation that accepting donations brings with it for now :P
L2463[23:02:11] <dmod_> What would Sangar add to patreon anyway :)
L2464[23:02:51] <Sangar> 1$ and you get a pet robot riding your shoulder? >_>
L2465[23:02:58] <Kenny> we'd have to think up things for him to add in for the different levels hehe
L2466[23:03:22] <Kenny> a robot helmet
L2467[23:03:34] <Kilobyte> Sangar: can you sell plush robots?
L2468[23:03:43] <Techokami> I'd buy one
L2469[23:03:46] <Sangar> Kilobyte, no, they'd fall over
L2470[23:03:52] <Kilobyte> true
L2471[23:04:01] <Techokami> but I'd still buy one :3
L2472[23:04:05] <Kilobyte> true
L2473[23:04:10] <Sangar> haha
L2474[23:04:10] <Kenny> nah they wouldn't. you have a little stand to sit them in
L2475[23:04:24] <Kilobyte> with a small cord on top to hang them from ceiling
L2476[23:04:25] <Kilobyte> :P
L2477[23:04:31] <Kilobyte> so it looks floating
L2478[23:04:35] <Techokami> like a UFO Catcher plush!
L2479[23:04:54] <dmod_> Sangar: like I said it's a method
L2480[23:05:02] <Kenny> stand with small wires sticking up to make it look like it's floating :P
L2481[23:05:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: someone build a real OC computer using a few raspberry
L2482[23:05:36] <Techokami> I have an rpi that's not being used for anything yet
L2483[23:05:41] <Sangar> i actually ordered a raspberry a few days ago >_> should arrive on tuesday
L2484[23:06:00] <Kilobyte> neat
L2485[23:06:00] <Techokami> along with another dev board that's far more powerful
L2486[23:06:01] <Sangar> i'll make it run jenkins! (no i wont)
L2487[23:06:19] <dmod_> Lol it could they have a build for it I think.
L2488[23:06:23] <Kilobyte> i have one that is only laying around because its charger is being used for my phone
L2489[23:06:31] <JoshTheEnder> you wont with 512mb of ram
L2490[23:07:00] <Kenny> you could run it with 512, would just take forever to build
L2491[23:07:16] <Kodos> http://www.cnet.com/how-to/25-fun-things-to-do-with-a-raspberry-pi/
L2492[23:07:41] <dmod_> Also enable some of the configs for it that they disable by default.
L2493[23:07:44] <JoshTheEnder> hmm
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L2495[23:07:53] <Dovahkiin> HAHAHA
L2496[23:07:59] <Dovahkiin> i now have this nick
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L2498[23:08:16] <Kodos> Oh yeah?
L2499[23:08:16] <JoshTheEnder> Haha
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L2502[23:08:35] <LoneWanderer> Fallout > Skyrim
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L2507[23:10:17] <Dovahkiin> hmm, i could make EnderBot2 auto-ghost people using my nicks really easilly
L2508[23:10:41] <Dovahkiin> dmod_, that's why you dont try to take a registered nick :P
L2509[23:11:12] <dmod_> I figured you would so something had a idea lol anyway bbs
L2510[23:11:20] <Dovahkiin> lol
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L2512[23:20:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw, in super hostile you get weird weapons like paper with sharpness 3
L2513[23:20:21] <Kilobyte> its actually better than an iron sword afaik
L2514[23:20:27] <Kilobyte> and never runs out
L2515[23:20:44] <Sangar> papercuts all the way!
L2516[23:20:46] <v^> Dovahkiin, MLG dragonborn mode activated
L2517[23:21:17] <v^> *shooting arrows at knees intensifies*
L2518[23:21:28] <v^> *intensification intensifies*
L2519[23:21:29] <Kilobyte> Sangar: or knockback signs
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L2521[23:26:41] <Kilobyte> maybe i can get the protocol to work tonight
L2522[23:29:25] <Sangar> optimist :P
L2523[23:29:27] <gamax92> what is this lua coercion
L2524[23:30:09] <Kilobyte> Sangar: the encryption layer will be swappable... in fact, plugins will be able to add custom encryption layers
L2525[23:30:20] <istasi> i can boot now!, got filesystem down and an auto updater \o/, this is rather fun
L2526[23:30:41] <gamax92> .l "5" + 5
L2527[23:30:41] <^v> gamax92, 10
L2528[23:30:47] <gamax92> oh cool I didn't know you could do that.
L2529[23:33:11] <Kilobyte> .l "abc" * 10
L2530[23:33:11] <^v> Kilobyte, lua:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value
L2531[23:33:13] <Kilobyte> lame.
L2532[23:35:02] <gamax92> Kilobyte: what did you expect?
L2533[23:35:21] <Kilobyte> abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabc
L2534[23:35:38] <gamax92> .l ("abc"):rep(10)
L2535[23:35:38] <^v> gamax92, abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabc
L2536[23:35:40] <Kilobyte> thats how ruby does it at least
L2537[23:35:45] <Kilobyte> yes, but thats verbose :P
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L2539[23:36:22] <gamax84182> yes
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L2541[23:36:56] <gamax92> Kilobyte: well, XYZ may be better in ruby but XYZ may be better in python or perl or C or java or C# or shell or BASIC or FORTH or Visual Basic or TCL or TK or moonscript or asm or REXX or etc.
L2542[23:37:12] <PotatoTrumpet> o/
L2543[23:37:16] <gamax92> !o/
L2544[23:37:24] <Kilobyte> i am just saying thats what i was hoping for
L2545[23:37:25] <Sangar> does ping's .l allow changing the string metatable?
L2546[23:37:34] <Sangar> ?o/
L2547[23:37:39] <PotatoTrumpet> .o/
L2548[23:37:55] <gamax92> .l string.poop = function() return "apples" end return ("hello"):poop()
L2549[23:37:55] <^v> gamax92, lua:1: attempt to call method 'poop' (a nil value)
L2550[23:38:02] <gamax92> nope
L2551[23:38:06] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L2552[23:38:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: does lua even support __add for strings?
L2553[23:38:20] <PotatoTrumpet> .l print("U SUK")
L2554[23:38:20] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, U SUK | nil
L2555[23:38:23] <Kilobyte> i know luaj doesn't
L2556[23:39:16] * PotatoTrumpet is trying out Razer Game Booster
L2557[23:39:30] <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: didn't do anything when I used it.
L2558[23:39:35] <PotatoTrumpet> Meh
L2559[23:39:59] <Sangar> Kilobyte, using debug.setmetatable it's possible to change the metatbles of the primitive types (like string), so yes.
L2560[23:40:35] <Kilobyte> Sangar: yes, but in luaj strings seem to ignore __
L2561[23:40:38] <Kilobyte> err
L2562[23:40:42] <Kilobyte> __add or __mul
L2563[23:40:45] <Kilobyte> tried that
L2564[23:40:50] <Sangar> .l debug.setmetatable("", {__mul=function(a,b)return string.rep(a,b) end}) print("abc" * 10)
L2565[23:40:50] <^v> Sangar, lua:1: attempt to index global 'debug' (a nil value)
L2566[23:40:51] <Kilobyte> idk if it does in c lua
L2567[23:40:53] <gamax92> chrt -f -p 99 `pidof Kilobyte`
L2568[23:41:01] <Sangar> would work if debug.setmetatable were allowed
L2569[23:41:05] <gamax92> renice -n -20 -p `pidof Kilobyte`
L2570[23:41:22] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ah, nice
L2571[23:41:40] <Kilobyte> gamax92: giving me nice -20?
L2572[23:41:45] <v^> >_>
L2573[23:41:47] <v^> want debug?
L2574[23:41:53] <gamax92> and fifo scheduling
L2575[23:41:59] <Kilobyte> WOOT
L2576[23:42:04] * Kilobyte feels important
L2577[23:42:22] <Kilobyte> you know that nice -20 is very high prio?
L2578[23:42:22] <Kilobyte> :P
L2579[23:42:36] <Kilobyte> positive == lower than normal, negative == higher than normal
L2580[23:42:41] <gamax92> yes
L2581[23:42:45] <Kilobyte> only root can set < 0
L2582[23:42:51] <Sangar> brb
L2583[23:42:52] <gamax92> ignoring the realtime fifo scheduling?
L2584[23:43:00] <Kilobyte> idk what that is :P
L2585[23:44:43] <Kilobyte> Sangar: gah, java is so verbose...
L2586[23:45:31] <gamax92> >_> I commented out a line in luaj expecting it to error, but instead it compiles
L2587[23:45:42] <gamax92> and by line i mean an entire function
L2588[23:45:43] ⇦ Quits: Pontiac_AtWork (~Pontiac@ykfvpn.navtech.aero) (Quit: Bye)
L2589[23:46:22] <v^> .l debug.setmetatable("", {__mul=function(a,b)return string.rep(a,b) end}) print("abc" * 10)
L2590[23:46:22] <^v> v^, Time limit exeeded.
L2591[23:46:26] <v^> >_>
L2592[23:47:04] <v^> diddnt actually hit time limit
L2593[23:47:14] <Kilobyte> .l io
L2594[23:47:14] <^v> Kilobyte, table: 0x1c158a0
L2595[23:47:20] <Kilobyte> .l io.open
L2596[23:47:20] <^v> Kilobyte, nil
L2597[23:48:44] <gamax92> well I was going to fix lastIndexOf as well but, nothing in LuaJ uses it.
L2598[23:49:11] <Kilobyte> .l debug.getfenv(5)
L2599[23:49:11] <^v> Kilobyte, Time limit exeeded.
L2600[23:49:17] <Kilobyte> .l debug.getfenv(4)
L2601[23:49:17] <^v> Kilobyte, Time limit exeeded.
L2602[23:49:19] <Kilobyte> wtf
L2603[23:49:27] <gamax92> .l "hi"
L2604[23:49:27] <^v> gamax92, Time limit exeeded.
L2605[23:49:31] <gamax92> v^: gj
L2606[23:49:33] <Kilobyte> why does debug lib exceed time l...
L2607[23:49:41] <Kilobyte> why does EVERYTHING exceed time limit
L2608[23:49:46] <gamax92> .l
L2609[23:49:46] <^v> gamax92, nil
L2610[23:49:53] <v^> sorry, borkd it for a second
L2611[23:52:01] <Kilobyte> .l debug.getfenv(5)
L2612[23:52:01] <^v> Kilobyte, lua:1: attempt to call field 'getfenv' (a nil value)
L2613[23:52:05] <Kilobyte> wot
L2614[23:52:29] <Kilobyte> .l _VERSION
L2615[23:52:29] <^v> Kilobyte, Lua 5.2
L2616[23:52:30] <gamax92> :|
L2617[23:52:34] <Kilobyte> wot
L2618[23:52:36] <gamax92> git-cola, launch dammit
L2619[23:52:46] <Kilobyte> i thought it hat that still in debug lib
L2620[23:52:53] <v^> it does
L2621[23:52:54] <v^> >_>
L2622[23:53:06] <Kilobyte> oh so you strip it?
L2623[23:53:06] <Kilobyte> :P
L2624[23:53:07] <v^> i just cba sandbox debug atm
L2625[23:53:23] <Kilobyte> oh, gl sandboxing that
L2626[23:53:30] <Kilobyte> v^: sandbox the lua executable
L2627[23:53:39] <v^> Kilobyte, exactly what i was thinking
L2628[23:53:41] <Kilobyte> ptrace sandbox
L2629[23:53:54] <Kilobyte> intercepts all syscalls and filters them
L2630[23:54:01] <gamax92> ooooooh
L2631[23:54:11] <gamax92> its because im trying to launch git-cola from a non existent path
L2632[23:54:12] <Kilobyte> you can sandbox EVERY program that way
L2633[23:54:18] <gamax92> how is my shell in a non existent path
L2634[23:56:46] <v^> Kilobyte, how use
L2635[23:56:57] <Kilobyte> v^: ?
L2636[23:57:13] <gamax84182> I've got a great idea that is possibly not flawwed
L2637[23:57:16] <Kilobyte> wanna know how to?
L2638[23:57:16] <gamax84182> in any way
L2639[23:57:21] *** Flenix is now known as SleepyFlenix
L2640[23:57:23] <Kilobyte> 1. learn c
L2641[23:57:27] <Kilobyte> 2. learn ptrace api
L2642[23:57:27] <v^> 1. no
L2643[23:57:31] <v^> 2. no
L2644[23:57:36] <gamax92> 3. ???
L2645[23:57:38] <gamax92> 4. profit
L2646[23:57:51] *** gamax84182 is now known as dsAway
L2647[23:57:57] <Sangar> 5. write ptrace api for lua
L2648[23:58:03] <Kilobyte> *wrapper
L2649[23:58:06] <gamax92> 6. ban ds for impersonating me
L2650[23:58:21] *** v^ is now known as gamax84182
L2651[23:58:29] <Kilobyte> Sangar: sometimes i hate java
L2652[23:58:30] <Kilobyte> void registerEncryptionLayer(String name, EncryptionLayerFactory factory);
L2653[23:58:37] <gamax84182> Kilobyte, can i use FFI?
L2654[23:58:41] <Kilobyte> i guess scala would have a much nicer alternative
L2655[23:58:46] <Kilobyte> gamax84182: probably
L2656[23:58:53] <Sangar> Kilobyte, depends on the library author :P
L2657[23:59:13] <Kilobyte> ptrace is core of linux
L2658[23:59:22] <gamax92> linux is life
L2659[23:59:24] <Kilobyte> afaik its even POSIX
L2660[23:59:40] <Kilobyte> one man ptrace later
L2661[23:59:42] <Sangar> linux is love... wait, nononono let's not go there
L2662[23:59:57] <Kilobyte> :P
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