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L2[00:17:07] <ShadowKatStudios> I just realised how many internal dialup modems I have.
L3[00:17:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Did OEMs give them away with new computers or something to get rid of them?
L4[00:20:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Argh, do they try to make it difficult to use a PCI modem as a serial port?
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L7[00:54:17] <ShadowKatStudios> I need a null-modem cable :/
L8[00:58:21] * ShadowKatStudios needs to make a filesystem for controlling components, so one can write to a modem directly
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L12[01:19:50] <cntkillme> Can someone help
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L14[01:25:10] <Cazzar> Well, now to reintergrate my mod's OC intergration since I fixed it up!
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L22[03:13:44] <ShadowKatStudios> So I made a 4-bit bi-directional shift register.
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L26[03:49:06] <JoshTheEnder> Heh, got inspircd set up so that I /can/ use it to dev EnderBot at college
L27[03:49:11] <JoshTheEnder> \o/
L28[03:50:42] <JoshTheEnder> .jenkins
L29[03:50:44] <EnderBot> Latest builds: OpenComputers: #353 | OpenComponents: #37 | OpenComputers-MC1.7: #130 | OpenComponents-MC1.7: #5 | ICBMComponent: #18 | OpenPrinter: #33 | OpenPrinter1.7: #15
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L38[04:22:42] <ShadowKatStudios> :D Functional stack memory!
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L41[04:39:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Also now a 1-bit adder-subtractor :D
L42[04:40:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll stack em to 4 and do some awesome stack-calculations :D
L43[04:40:51] <ShadowKatStudios> On numbers up to 15!
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L50[05:02:05] <JoshTheEnder> there, made EnderBot(2) a bit faster at responding when you specify a job as it only gets the data for things it needs to when it needs to (before it was getting all of them whenever the command was ran)
L51[05:07:38] <Bizzycola> I haven't opened the mojang launcher in over a week but miencraft just opened
L52[05:07:41] <Bizzycola> gj mojang, gj :p
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L56[05:49:59] * JoshTheEnder is gui programming, it's kinda boring
L57[05:50:54] <ShadowKatStudios> GUIs are evil to write ime
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L61[05:53:50] <JoshTheEnder> it's not really evil but it is tedious
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L64[06:14:57] <JoshTheEnder> \o/ EnderBot(2) now prints what it's sending to the console in the same way that it prints received messages
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L66[06:15:12] <JoshTheEnder> PRIVMSG: JoshTheEnder => #oc: ['.jenkins'] Sending: #oc <= 'Latest builds: \x033\x02OpenComputers\x0f: #353 | \x033\x02OpenComponents\x0f: #37 | \x033\x02OpenComputers-MC1.7\x0f: #130 | \x033\x02OpenComponents-MC1.7\x0f: #5 | \x033\x02ICBMComponent\x0f: #18 | \x033\x02OpenPrinter\x0f: #33 | \x033\x02OpenPrinter1.7\x0f: #15'
L67[06:15:40] <JoshTheEnder> the 'Sending' part is on a new line
L68[06:20:28] <JoshTheEnder> meh, lunch time
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L75[06:53:58] <ds84182> gamax92: http://puu.sh/8mJ5z.png
L76[07:01:58] <JoshTheEnder> hmm, it seems that InspIRCd doesnt have nickserv by default :/
L77[07:05:08] <JoshTheEnder> meh, lets see about implementing a lua vm into EnderBot(2)
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L79[07:07:06] <Sangar> gamax92, can you post the crashlog for the midiplayer related error?
L80[07:18:21] <ds84182> Anyways, school time
L81[07:22:15] <JoshTheEnder> $poke
L82[07:22:22] <JoshTheEnder> $poke SuperBot
L83[07:22:28] <JoshTheEnder> hmm
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L85[07:26:50] <JoshTheEnder> $help josh
L86[07:26:50] <SuperBot> I am so sorry, I cannot help you with him...
L87[07:26:52] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L88[07:27:55] *** ds84182 is now known as dsAway
L89[07:28:54] <JoshTheEnder> $slap your mum
L90[07:28:55] * SuperBot slaps your mum around a bit with a toaster
L91[07:29:00] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L92[07:31:01] <JoshTheEnder> i am bored /
L93[07:31:03] <JoshTheEnder> :? *
L94[07:31:05] <JoshTheEnder> ¬_`
L95[07:31:12] <JoshTheEnder> $slap JoshTheEnder
L96[07:31:12] * SuperBot slaps JoshTheEnder around a bit with a stick of dynamite
L97[07:36:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Holy *. Renji just refused to die. At all. Like, he had more holes than your average block of swiss cheese and he kept going!
L98[07:38:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Do we have a working emulator yet?
L99[07:38:36] <JoshTheEnder> not that i know of
L100[07:38:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Argh, damn.
L101[07:39:00] * ShadowKatStudios goes to fix his Minecraft environment
L102[07:40:55] <gamax92> Vexatos: did you get my memo
L103[07:41:01] * ShadowKatStudios wonders if there are any updates for Computronics
L104[07:41:10] <Vexatos> I did
L105[07:41:18] <gamax92> just now ...
L106[07:41:23] <Vexatos> Also, gamax92: I am done with it :D
L107[07:41:26] <Vexatos> Thank you anyways
L108[07:42:02] <gamax92> yeah but it lacks huge spaces or extra letters or whatever
L109[07:42:09] <Vexatos> Also, yours won't work perfectly
L110[07:42:15] <Vexatos> Because "E"=="."
L111[07:42:34] <gamax92> oops
L112[07:42:40] <Vexatos> Anyways
L113[07:42:43] <Vexatos> Thank you :D
L114[07:42:56] <Vexatos> I am almost done with sending and receiving functions
L115[07:42:58] <Vexatos> \o/
L116[07:46:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I should update morph.
L117[07:47:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Ehh, I think I'll hold off updating till my upload is more than a few kb/s
L118[07:50:07] <JoshTheEnder> right, as i see it currently. with EnderBot(2) i can either continue to use the irc library i'm currently using and just getting the jenkins information manually on command run, or i can go back to the ways of handling the raw sockets myself like with EnderBot(1) but then have the ability to implement the HTTP server which will allow
L119[07:50:20] <JoshTheEnder> EnderBot to use less resources when getting build stats
L120[07:50:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Guys, help? http://pastebin.com/Vc4EWMjV D:
L121[07:51:15] <JoshTheEnder> pastebin is under heavy load
L122[07:51:18] <JoshTheEnder> :/
L123[07:51:27] <JoshTheEnder> nvm got it, reading
L124[07:52:36] <JoshTheEnder> looks like a crafting recipe error, tell asie when they get on
L125[07:52:54] <JoshTheEnder> ?help
L126[07:52:54] <EnderBot> I can help you with: _?, BlackKnight, opencomputers, opencomponents, OpenPrograms, ocforum, dev-builds, chanstats, 2048game, computronics,
L127[07:52:54] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates
L128[07:52:55] <ShadowKatStudios> :( Damn
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L130[07:53:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, I'll try an older version.
L131[07:53:22] <JoshTheEnder> ?chanstats
L132[07:53:22] <EnderBot> Stats are provided by SuPeRMiNoR2: http://thatjoshgreen.me/other/irc/stats/oc.html
L133[07:56:42] <Michiyo> .jenkins
L134[07:56:44] <EnderBot> Latest builds: OpenComputers: #353 | OpenComponents: #37 | OpenComputers-MC1.7: #130 | OpenComponents-MC1.7: #5 | ICBMComponent: #18 | OpenPrinter: #33 | OpenPrinter1.7: #15
L135[07:57:09] <Michiyo> good, jenkins is still accessible this morning. lol
L136[07:57:14] <JoshTheEnder> Michiyo: did you see message about EnderBot and building the http server into it?
L137[07:57:46] <Michiyo> yeah
L138[07:58:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Maaybe...
L139[07:58:51] <JoshTheEnder> not really sure how i want to go about doing that, cause i like this irc library but it isnt feasible with the HTTP thigy
L140[07:59:00] <JoshTheEnder> this keyboard is crap
L141[07:59:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Argh, 0.31 ccrashes too.
L142[08:00:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Time to try 0.30
L143[08:00:07] <JoshTheEnder> meanwhile on my test server: [JoshTheEnder] (JoshTheEnde@ImTheOperator)
L144[08:00:17] <JoshTheEnder> (that's from a whois)
L145[08:00:44] <JoshTheEnder> and EnderBot2's [BotTheEnder] (BotTheEnder@ImTheBot): EnderBot2: Now with added sarcasm
L146[08:01:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Awww, Minecraft crashed and offered me a cupcake
L147[08:01:52] <JoshTheEnder> the *cake is a lie
L148[08:01:57] <Michiyo> My oper class on my network is "Satan" :P
L149[08:02:15] <JoshTheEnder> mine is the default NetAdmin because i couldnt be bothered to change it
L150[08:02:18] <Michiyo> »» [Michiyo] is a Satan on PC-Logix
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L153[08:03:26] <JoshTheEnder> Michiyo: is that network publicly accessible or no?
L154[08:03:44] <Michiyo> yeah
L155[08:04:22] <Michiyo> replace my hostname with irc. :P
L156[08:04:32] <Michiyo> and hope my DNS is done being stupid
L157[08:04:47] <JoshTheEnder> isis... wut?
L158[08:04:57] <ShadowKatStudios> :/ 0.30 is borked too.
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L161[08:05:04] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm gonna use a version that I know works.
L162[08:05:27] <Michiyo> yes s/isis/irc
L163[08:05:43] <JoshTheEnder> i know, just didnt know what isis ment
L164[08:06:03] <Michiyo> just a server name
L165[08:06:09] <JoshTheEnder> ahh
L166[08:06:46] <Michiyo> isis, kenobi, apollo, sirius, athena, helios, khonsu
L167[08:06:54] <Vexatos> Almost done.... Now just need to improve timing...
L168[08:07:02] <Michiyo> unnamed server07
L169[08:07:49] <JoshTheEnder> Michiyo: ports similar to espers? (in terms of ssl and such)
L170[08:08:45] <Michiyo> yeah, make sure to accept invalid certs
L171[08:10:22] <JoshTheEnder> i'm on \o/
L172[08:10:40] <Michiyo> lol i sawe
L173[08:10:41] <Michiyo> afk
L174[08:12:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh. This is messed up.
L175[08:12:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Maybe it's asielib
L176[08:17:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Oookay, then, pull a mod from a working environment and it stops working? o.O
L177[08:17:12] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L178[08:18:56] <ShadowKatStudios> So Asie's stuff hates me.
L179[08:19:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Maybe my forge is old?
L180[08:19:22] <JoshTheEnder> what version are you using?
L181[08:20:09] <ShadowKatStudios> 9.11.1.965
L182[08:20:49] <JoshTheEnder> well, that is the latest and final version for 1.6.4 so it's not a forge issue
L183[08:20:56] <JoshTheEnder> *outdated forge issue
L184[08:21:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh.
L185[08:21:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Weird.
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L187[08:21:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Must be my other mods.
L188[08:21:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Hell, there's plenty of those.
L189[08:33:17] <ShadowKatStudios> What would be a good key to enable/disable logging on a network client?
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L191[08:57:18] <ShadowKatStudios> How would I detect a key combination?
L192[08:57:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Like, say, control-l?
L193[08:57:26] <Vexatos> Grr
L194[08:57:32] <Vexatos> Computer, why are you so slow
L195[08:57:40] <Vexatos> I don't want to have 1 bit per second
L196[08:57:48] <Vexatos> OC is slower than expected
L197[08:58:17] <Michiyo> o_o
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L200[09:03:37] <Keridos> o.O my OC screens do not display their characters correctly
L201[09:03:52] <Keridos> since today or maybe a few days ago I have no valid font apparently?
L202[09:03:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmmm... *considers buying this russian LSI-11 clone*
L203[09:04:24] <ShadowKatStudios> $25 a piece D:
L204[09:06:50] <Keridos> http://imgur.com/IBAKRlY
L205[09:07:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Keridos: Reloading my resources fixed that for me once.
L206[09:07:57] <Keridos> how to reload it?
L207[09:08:16] <Keridos> ah
L208[09:08:18] <Keridos> in the options
L209[09:08:21] <Keridos> that was weird
L210[09:08:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Uh, I think you can go to texture packs then click on the default or whatever to trload it.
L211[09:11:09] <ShadowKatStudios> io library internals are weird.
L212[09:11:46] <Michiyo> why.. is this... SINGLE named virtual host not working
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L214[09:14:58] <dangranos> .-.
L215[09:15:47] <dangranos> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/BK0010_Focal_screenshot_BW_colored.gif?uselang=ru
L216[09:15:48] <dangranos> >_<
L217[09:16:09] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L218[09:17:44] * Michiyo stabs server
L219[09:17:44] *** cazzar|Away is now known as Cazzar
L220[09:18:33] <Cazzar> what's happening Michiyo?
L221[09:18:59] <Michiyo> http://sirius.pc-logix.com/
L222[09:19:04] <Michiyo> while working, is NOT the proper directory.
L223[09:19:27] <Keridos> argh what was the function to list all the functions an openperipheral thingie has?
L224[09:19:40] <Michiyo> that page is in /var/www/ but the directory for the subdomain is /var/www/sirius.pc-logix.com/web
L225[09:20:00] <Michiyo> while lanteacraft.com which is on the same server, works fine.
L226[09:20:46] <dangranos> on what are you hosting this?
L227[09:20:58] <Michiyo> Keridos, theres a loop in the lua prompt, but I cheat, and use Kenny's compviewer
L228[09:21:07] <Keridos> ah :D
L229[09:21:08] <Michiyo> dangranos, a server. :D
L230[09:21:12] <Keridos> habe not downloaded that yet
L231[09:21:13] <JoshTheEnder> ?openprograms
L232[09:21:13] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L233[09:21:17] <JoshTheEnder> hmm
L234[09:21:18] <JoshTheEnder> ?help
L235[09:21:18] <EnderBot> I can help you with: _?, BlackKnight, opencomputers, opencomponents, OpenPrograms, ocforum, dev-builds, chanstats, 2048game, computronics,
L236[09:21:19] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates
L237[09:21:26] <JoshTheEnder> ?OpenPrograms
L238[09:21:26] <EnderBot> https://github.com/OpenPrograms
L239[09:21:59] <Keridos> can i extract that to some place on the server to make it available on all computers?
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L242[09:22:17] <JoshTheEnder> put it in the world folder
L243[09:22:21] <dangranos> ?_?
L244[09:22:21] <EnderBot> O_O
L245[09:22:34] <dangranos> lol
L246[09:23:21] <Skuli> Anybody ever considered like a handheld computer/pda for a computer mod? I like the idea, but I really can't think of a use-case for one
L247[09:23:56] <JoshTheEnder> Bizzycola: is working on something like that IIRC
L248[09:24:05] <Skuli> Oh, are they
L249[09:24:11] <Michiyo> yeah waiting on Sangar to do some API stuff
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L251[09:24:26] <ShadowKatStudios> :D With the addition of a server, my client with logging works!
L252[09:24:29] <Skuli> I was thinking possibly if you could add referencing player nbt values via lua
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L255[09:24:35] <Michiyo> otherwise Bizzycola would have to implement GFX Cards and everything
L256[09:24:38] <Skuli> idk
L257[09:24:46] <dangranos> maybe just a remote screen with keyboard?
L258[09:24:50] <dangranos> or without keyboard :D
L259[09:24:55] <Skuli> Yeah, that could work.
L260[09:25:01] <Skuli> SSH client essentially
L261[09:25:05] <JoshTheEnder> theres already the remote terminal
L262[09:25:09] <Michiyo> server remote terminal
L263[09:25:10] <Skuli> I was just looking at that
L264[09:25:12] <Skuli> Yeah
L265[09:25:14] <JoshTheEnder> which works with servers
L266[09:25:17] <Skuli> Well there you go
L267[09:25:22] <Skuli> I actually thought that had to be attached
L268[09:25:29] <Skuli> but it does say "remote"
L269[09:25:31] <Wobbo_> SSH for servers? :D
L270[09:25:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Also: I need to impliment an upload
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L272[09:26:01] <JoshTheEnder> i wonder where Wired is, havent seen him in a while
L273[09:26:07] <dangranos> ^
L274[09:26:11] <dangranos> i want server :(
L275[09:26:36] <Wobbo> I haven’t seen wired in a few weeks actually
L276[09:27:01] <JoshTheEnder> the last time he was here according to the stats was 47 days ago
L277[09:27:57] <dangranos> how to chanstat?
L278[09:28:04] <Wobbo> ?chanstats
L279[09:28:04] <EnderBot> Stats are provided by SuPeRMiNoR2: http://thatjoshgreen.me/other/irc/stats/oc.html
L280[09:28:10] * Vexatos can't believe he just stared on a piece of redstone dust for 2 minutes
L281[09:28:20] <dangranos> ...
L282[09:28:36] <JoshTheEnder> &addtohelp chanstats Stats are provided by Kenny: http://thatjoshgreen.me/other/irc/stats/oc.html
L283[09:28:36] <EnderBot> Added chanstats successfully
L284[09:28:44] <Cazzar> I wanted a big mod to make, now I have my idea! time to start it!
L285[09:28:58] <Wobbo> ping has more words than sangra!
L286[09:29:39] <dangranos> *lines
L287[09:30:18] <Wobbo> Ah. lines, indeed
L288[09:30:47] <Wobbo> Still, that is pretty impressive. It is Sangra’s mod after all :P
L289[09:31:01] * Michiyo shakes server
L290[09:31:03] <Michiyo> WORK DAMN YOU
L291[09:31:12] <JoshTheEnder> $slap Michiyo's server
L292[09:31:12] * SuperBot slaps Michiyo's server around a bit with a rock
L293[09:31:13] <JoshTheEnder> :P
L294[09:31:18] <Cazzar> Michiyo, what server software?
L295[09:31:51] <Michiyo> I'm gonna be yelled at for this, I'm sure.
L296[09:31:58] <Michiyo> Apache
L297[09:32:13] <Michiyo> I had lighttpd running, but it REALLY didn't like my chroot
L298[09:32:21] <JoshTheEnder> Apache is cool
L299[09:32:35] <Cazzar> no, that means I can help ;P chuck me your vhost config
L300[09:33:15] * Wobbo yells at Michiyo.
L301[09:33:21] <Michiyo> lol Wobbo
L302[09:33:32] <Wobbo> Othwise your statement is false, which we can’t have of course
L303[09:34:01] <Michiyo> my vhost config is split.. http://puu.sh/8mPYd.png though :P
L304[09:34:46] <Vexatos> Yay
L305[09:34:50] <Vexatos> it finally works
L306[09:34:59] <Vexatos> Tweaking the timing is a pain, though
L307[09:35:03] <Vexatos> anyone wants to help me?
L308[09:35:06] <Cazzar> I have not used WebMin for YEARS
L309[09:35:27] <Michiyo> I got lazy
L310[09:35:27] <Michiyo> http://paste.pc-logix.com/view/raw/ede6d9c7
L311[09:36:26] <Wobbo> Vexatos: What are you doing?
L312[09:36:47] <Vexatos> Tweaking the timing for morse.send and morse.receive
L313[09:36:49] <Cazzar> I assume you have reloaded Apache?
L314[09:36:59] <Vexatos> so it recognizes a redstone state properly
L315[09:37:22] <Vexatos> The problem is, I have no idea how many ms the program itself uses to calculate everything
L316[09:37:25] <Michiyo> Cazzar, yep
L317[09:37:38] <Vexatos> And that varies between different (RL) computers
L318[09:37:56] <Vexatos> I could do one signal per half a second, but.
L319[09:37:57] <Vexatos> Well
L320[09:38:01] <Vexatos> SLOW
L321[09:38:04] <Wobbo> Ah, can’t help you there, I’m on the train
L322[09:39:07] <ShadowKatStudios> So I've sent data over a modem in selectable-size chunks.
L323[09:40:05] ⇦ Quits: tgame14 (~tgame14@bzq-79-181-23-32.red.bezeqint.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L324[09:40:06] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Are you using the event listeners?
L325[09:40:15] <ShadowKatStudios> I think I'll use max-size chunks over selectable chunks.
L326[09:40:21] <Vexatos> Wobbo, no
L327[09:40:33] <Vexatos> I am doing rs.getInput() and os.sleep
L328[09:40:47] <Vexatos> Because the event does not tell you which state the thing is in
L329[09:40:53] * Michiyo stabs Apache
L330[09:40:55] <Vexatos> it just tells you that the state has changed
L331[09:41:19] <Vexatos> Wobbo, any suggestions?
L332[09:42:48] <Wobbo> Not really. Except for using event listeners and building up the string before you decode it
L333[09:43:09] <Vexatos> That's what I do
L334[09:43:12] <Vexatos> Well
L335[09:43:18] <Michiyo> the server's name is "sirius.pc-logix.com" but apache has a vhost with the same name, should the vhost not override the default?
L336[09:43:21] <Vexatos> It stores every signal it gets inside a table
L337[09:43:37] <Vexatos> I will push the thing to my repo
L338[09:43:41] <Vexatos> if you want to see it
L339[09:45:01] <Cazzar> Michiyo: what does the command hostname say?
L340[09:45:22] <Michiyo> sirius.pc-logix.com
L341[09:45:39] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Don’t think I can do a lot from here
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L343[09:45:58] <Vexatos> Well, you can leave suggestions :D
L344[09:46:05] zsh sets mode: +v on tgame14
L345[09:46:21] <JoshTheEnder> o/ tgame14
L346[09:47:36] <Wobbo> True
L347[09:47:46] <JoshTheEnder> idk why but i want to set up an ircd on my vps when i get home
L348[09:48:02] <Michiyo> make it InspIRCd, and link to my network! :P
L349[09:48:13] <JoshTheEnder> ok :)
L350[09:48:18] <Michiyo> woo!
L351[09:48:27] <JoshTheEnder> also then i wont have to bother with trying to figure out services
L352[09:48:28] <Michiyo> GnuTLS plox :P
L353[09:48:38] <Michiyo> server links are SSL lol
L354[09:48:59] <JoshTheEnder> will, do
L355[09:49:07] <JoshTheEnder> ohai there random comma
L356[09:49:13] <Michiyo> lol
L357[09:49:24] <Michiyo> AFK, gonna go find food
L358[09:49:44] <JoshTheEnder> i may ask you a load of setup questions when i get around to setting it up so beware
L359[09:49:54] <Michiyo> lol sounds good
L360[09:50:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm, if I divide this 32-minute tape into blocks of 256 bytes, I get 30720 blocks, but if I use 8k (modem limit) I get 960 blocks
L361[09:50:06] <Michiyo> our config package is very... different from normal configs..
L362[09:50:12] <Michiyo> it's all remote includes :P
L363[09:50:37] <Michiyo> makes syncing network configs easier, and you get a web interface for stuff like Links, MOTD, and stuff
L364[09:50:40] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Chose the largest modem size
L365[09:50:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Modem limit it is.
L366[09:50:57] <JoshTheEnder> the current setup i have is just 'lets edit the config till it works'
L367[09:51:49] <JoshTheEnder> also i'll have to compile it for linux seeing as i've currently got a windows executable
L368[09:52:38] <JoshTheEnder> i wonder if i can have multiple PTR records for the same IP
L369[09:53:08] <Michiyo> per spec, IIRC no, in practice.. I've never tried
L370[09:53:26] <JoshTheEnder> Michiyo: eh?
L371[09:53:31] <JoshTheEnder> nvm
L372[09:53:38] * JoshTheEnder is having a derp day
L373[09:53:40] <Michiyo> anyway AFK for food
L374[09:53:44] <Cazzar> I dont think many DNS hosts will let you...
L375[09:55:13] <Skuli> is there a way to make urls clickable on a monitor?
L376[09:55:20] <dangranos> uh
L377[09:55:24] <JoshTheEnder> no
L378[09:55:28] <JoshTheEnder> well
L379[09:55:31] <JoshTheEnder> not that i know of
L380[09:55:55] <Skuli> there's the "touch" event
L381[09:56:07] <dangranos> what you mean under "clickable"?
L382[09:56:10] <Skuli> Well
L383[09:56:15] <JoshTheEnder> yes, that is possible but it wont open the link like it does in chat
L384[09:56:21] <Skuli> I have a server rules list via computer
L385[09:56:28] <dangranos> uh
L386[09:56:31] <dangranos> chatbox
L387[09:56:40] <Skuli> Hm?
L388[09:56:41] <JoshTheEnder> i think you could make it send the link to the player via chat which would allow them to click it
L389[09:56:45] <dangranos> ^
L390[09:56:46] <Skuli> Oh, really
L391[09:56:51] <Wobbo> Skuli: You can make them clickable, but you can’t use it for opening webstes.
L392[09:57:01] <Skuli> yeah, that'd be perfect, I had no idea you could send a chat message from a computer
L393[09:57:06] <dangranos> chatbox
L394[09:57:10] <dangranos> from computronics
L395[09:57:13] <Skuli> OK
L396[09:57:21] <JoshTheEnder> well, not directly. you'll need a mod that can interface with the chat
L397[09:57:22] <Wobbo> Skull: one way to do this is to try to make buttons and display those in your rules
L398[09:57:23] <dangranos> or immibis peripheral iirc
L399[09:57:26] <Skuli> Oh, I see.
L400[09:57:32] <Skuli> OK. I'll look into that eventually.
L401[09:57:39] <Skuli> Thanks!
L402[09:58:09] <Cazzar> command block: /say @p[r=10] Server rules: ... there is a button
L403[09:58:20] <dangranos> or that ^
L404[09:58:24] <dangranos> with redstone
L405[09:58:25] <Cazzar> well, no need for the @p
L406[09:58:45] <JoshTheEnder> chatbox would be better IMO
L407[09:58:50] <Wobbo> Skull: Gopher has a GUI library, but I don’t know how it works: https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Gopher-Programs/tree/master/gml
L408[09:59:19] <Vexatos> It's awesome
L409[09:59:22] <Vexatos> checkout the wiki
L410[09:59:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Guys, my thing is detecting two of the same event :(
L411[09:59:30] <Vexatos> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Gopher-Programs/wiki
L412[09:59:34] <JoshTheEnder> ShadowKatStudios: what?
L413[09:59:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I have it- Oh, I never un-set it -__
L414[10:00:06] <Wobbo> Cazzar: If you do that, you need a block for each rule, not really eextendable :P
L415[10:00:26] <dangranos> thats why chatbox better
L416[10:00:33] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: When can we actually expect the next part in your story? :P
L417[10:00:39] <Cazzar> Wobbo: Was I saying it was for each rule, I read link previously :P
L418[10:00:40] <Vexatos> Wobbo: Idea
L419[10:00:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Uh... Next time I write some?
L420[10:00:55] <Vexatos> I use event handlers and computer.uptime to get how long the state has been active
L421[10:00:57] <Vexatos> \o/
L422[10:00:57] <Vexatos> aiertgjspoihzj
L423[10:01:09] <Wobbo> Vexatos: That would work perfectly fine
L424[10:01:22] * JoshTheEnder fiddles with Vexatos' redstone
L425[10:01:23] <dangranos> cazzar, why not just retrive rules from site and display them
L426[10:01:26] <Vexatos> Which unit does computer.uptime work
L427[10:01:30] <Vexatos> with
L428[10:01:31] <Vexatos> >_>
L429[10:01:51] <Cazzar> Hey, I was stating a solution to the problem within the scope....
L430[10:01:53] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Probably seconds
L431[10:01:57] <Vexatos> k
L432[10:01:59] <Vexatos> Wait
L433[10:02:00] <Vexatos> dangit
L434[10:02:05] <Vexatos> 1 signal per second... no.
L435[10:02:14] <JoshTheEnder> 1sps
L436[10:02:28] <Vexatos> second per second?
L437[10:02:28] <Vexatos> <-<
L438[10:02:30] <Wobbo> Otherwise game ticks
L439[10:02:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Yay, it works :D
L440[10:02:39] <dangranos> sks, what?
L441[10:02:41] <Vexatos> "The time in real world seconds this computer has been running"
L442[10:02:42] <Vexatos> Crap
L443[10:02:45] <Vexatos> too slow
L444[10:02:52] <Wobbo> But I gtg, almost at the station
L445[10:02:57] <ShadowKatStudios> My telnet-ish program
L446[10:03:06] <dangranos> is it publically available?
L447[10:03:14] ⇦ Quits: Wobbo (~Wobbo@88.128.80.3) (Quit: Wobbo)
L448[10:03:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Not yet.
L449[10:03:21] <dangranos> :(
L450[10:03:32] <dangranos> what do you have now?
L451[10:03:45] <ShadowKatStudios> I can't simulate a shell, but it can upload, download, and run a server specifically for it.
L452[10:03:45] * JoshTheEnder is thinking of ways to make EnderBot(2) connect to 2 networks at the same time
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L454[10:04:21] <dangranos> is it running foreground? i am about server
L455[10:04:59] <dangranos> ?chanstat
L456[10:04:59] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L457[10:05:02] <dangranos> ?chanstats
L458[10:05:02] <EnderBot> Stats are provided by Kenny: http://thatjoshgreen.me/other/irc/stats/oc.html
L459[10:05:20] <ShadowKatStudios> You could probably run it in the background
L460[10:05:47] <ShadowKatStudios> But it's currently usable as a FTP server.
L461[10:05:58] <gamax92> hi
L462[10:06:19] <gamax92> Sangar: uhh, error log?
L463[10:06:24] <gamax92> what error log?
L464[10:08:41] * gamax92 pokes ShadowKatStudios
L465[10:08:59] <ShadowKatStudios> What'd I do?
L466[10:09:01] <Sangar> gamax92, you mentioned you crashed when running the midi program?
L467[10:09:03] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: nothing.
L468[10:09:07] <gamax92> Sangar: oh that.
L469[10:09:10] <dangranos> ksk, with what?
L470[10:09:12] <dangranos> *sks
L471[10:09:13] <gamax92> it worked immediatly after.
L472[10:09:48] <Sangar> huh
L473[10:10:04] <gamax92> Sangar: I ended up adding support for iron noteblocks and specific noteblock instruments.
L474[10:10:24] <Sangar> oh, nice.
L475[10:10:57] <Sangar> it started out as a test for the adapter block when i first wrote it :P
L476[10:11:22] <gamax92> oh that reminds me, i put in iron noteblock support because noteblocks wouldnt connect to the ... wait. Adapter?
L477[10:11:35] <gamax92> Dammit i was trying to hook them up directly.
L478[10:11:44] <dangranos> дщд
L479[10:11:45] <Sangar> :P
L480[10:11:46] <dangranos> lol
L481[10:12:12] <Cazzar> Sangar: I updated my TeamCity script again x3
L482[10:12:27] <Cazzar> it /now/ supports sub projects
L483[10:12:39] <Sangar> heh, nice
L484[10:12:41] <ShadowKatStudios> I must be sick, it's midnight and I'm already tired.
L485[10:12:42] <gamax92> Sangar: Oh, you accepted my pull request, despite it having crappy patterns.
L486[10:12:49] <Cazzar> For example
L487[10:12:54] <Cazzar> http://cazzar.net/download.php?build=CazzarCoreLib_Minecraft
L488[10:12:57] <Sangar> they seem to work so why not :P
L489[10:13:04] <gamax92> Well yeah they work,
L490[10:13:12] <gamax92> but they probably could be better or in one pattern.
L491[10:13:20] <dangranos> cazzar, it is kinda slow .-.
L492[10:13:34] <Cazzar> dangranos: mainly the server's fault
L493[10:13:39] <dangranos> or maybe its my dns .-.
L494[10:13:56] <Sangar> gamax92, possibly. feel free to make another pr :P
L495[10:14:06] <gamax92> Sangar: but ping isn't here.
L496[10:14:10] <Cazzar> it takes about 2-3 seconds for me, (server's a virtualized server I am killing)
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L498[10:14:23] <ShadowKatStudios> The next episode of bleach better be done by the time I wake up.
L499[10:14:25] <Sangar> he'll be back, i'm sure
L500[10:14:32] <dangranos> vps?
L501[10:14:50] <Sangar> Cazzar, so subproject would be like mc1.6/mc1.7 or rather dependencies?
L502[10:15:15] <gamax92> hmm, I wonder how linux handles seeking in /dev/stdin and /dev/stdout
L503[10:15:18] <Cazzar> one second...
L504[10:15:27] <dangranos> gamax92: lol
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L507[10:15:49] <Dean4Devil> While i approve Pythons way of taking whatever is already there and doing the exact opposite, it can get annoying sometimes ._.
L508[10:16:04] <JoshTheEnder> Dean4Devil: what you on about?
L509[10:16:09] <gamax92> "Reading a pipe is destructive; there is no way to seek on a pipe:"
L510[10:16:11] <gamax92> so, no seeking.
L511[10:17:27] <dangranos> >_<
L512[10:17:32] <gamax92> {read = function(obj,...) return io.read(...) end, close = function() end, seek = function() return nil, "No seeking" end}
L513[10:17:36] <dangranos> clicked settings three times
L514[10:17:38] <gamax92> {write = function(obj,...) return io.write(...) end, close = function() end, seek = function() return nil, "No seeking" end}
L515[10:17:40] <gamax92> Sangar: ^
L516[10:17:57] <Dean4Devil> Josh: Generally a lot of the design decisions they made. For me Python code *still* looks like tilted lines of code that aren't finished. And not having any code closing statements (end, ; , etc.) is also weird for me ._.
L517[10:17:58] <gamax92> well actually close should do something.
L518[10:18:46] <JoshTheEnder> i like Pythons way of indentation because it forces people to format their codes to some degree
L519[10:19:40] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder: Agreed
L520[10:19:43] <Dean4Devil> Yes, of course. But as i only really work with people that either teached me to code or that I teached to code this isnt all that much of a problem yet :D
L521[10:19:50] <gamax92> I just don't like python
L522[10:19:52] <Sangar> gamax92, what?
L523[10:19:56] <Dean4Devil> ^
L524[10:20:04] <JoshTheEnder> ^^
L525[10:20:19] <dangranos> how many time is needed to find "win" in /dev/random?
L526[10:20:25] <gamax92> Sangar: for the - file, or /dev/stdin and /dev/stdout respectively
L527[10:21:03] <gamax92> forever because /dev/random is reaaaaaaaaaaaly slow
L528[10:21:07] <gamax92> and doesn't rely on ORNG
L529[10:21:10] <gamax92> PRNG*
L530[10:21:43] <Sangar> i'm not sure what you're trying to say? that that should go into openos?
L531[10:21:59] <gamax92> Sangar: it was the whole reason for allowing programs to get - as an argument
L532[10:22:42] <gamax92> if name is "-" then wrap io.read and io.write as files, depending on mode. else open file normally end
L533[10:23:02] <Sangar> oh, you mean in io.open?
L534[10:23:19] <gamax92> well, io.open uses filesystem, so i guess fs.open
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L536[10:23:42] <gamax92> asie!
L537[10:24:17] <Cazzar> dangranos: Actually, now the response is <1 second, it may have been DNS
L538[10:24:24] <Sangar> hmm, does fopen behave like that? because that's kinda what fs.open is, after all.
L539[10:24:36] <dangranos> hmm
L540[10:24:37] <Cazzar> Sangar: have a look at http://direct.cazzar.net:8111/project.html?projectId=CazzarCoreLib
L541[10:24:45] <asie> hi gamax92
L542[10:24:46] <dangranos> youtube is not working .-.
L543[10:25:05] <Cazzar> Also, Sangar: http://cazzar.net/download.php?build=JukeboxReloaded_Build Fully working for 1.7 with OC support!
L544[10:25:07] <gamax92> Sangar: uhh ... dunno
L545[10:25:27] <asie> What is JukeboxReloaded
L546[10:25:31] <asie> and why is there no 1.6 OC build
L547[10:25:46] <dangranos> asie
L548[10:25:51] <dangranos> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1759458-151147-forge-universal-cazzars-mods-jukebox-reloaded-jukebox-fix-cazzarcorelib/
L549[10:26:05] <Cazzar> ohlook someone bet me to my own mod :P
L550[10:26:08] <JoshTheEnder> .jenkins
L551[10:26:10] <EnderBot> Latest builds: OpenComputers: #356 | OpenComponents: #37 | OpenComputers-MC1.7: #130 | OpenComponents-MC1.7: #5 | ICBMComponent: #18 | OpenPrinter: #33 | OpenPrinter1.7: #15
L552[10:26:11] <Sangar> Cazzar, nice! so i don't misunderstand: subprojecct = something depending on that project?
L553[10:26:14] <asie> you know what would be neat, Cazzar?
L554[10:26:20] <asie> Computronics compatibility with the reloaded jukebox
L555[10:26:25] <dangranos> :O
L556[10:26:30] <Cazzar> Maybe~
L557[10:26:31] <asie> so you can use tapes and records mixed
L558[10:26:33] <dangranos> awesome
L559[10:26:45] <asie> but that would be a bit hard to do, i'd need to refactor the tape drive code a bit
L560[10:26:50] <asie> to make the tile entity and tape playback routines separate
L561[10:26:51] <JoshTheEnder> woo
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L563[10:26:53] <asie> and then put it in a separate API JAR
L564[10:26:55] <gamax92> But, you can't write to a record.
L565[10:27:03] <gamax92> i mean, rewrite*
L566[10:27:05] <asie> gamax92: yes
L567[10:27:08] <JoshTheEnder> both in the same script, using the same class just different nicks
L568[10:27:11] <asie> but you can play a record and you can play a tape
L569[10:27:15] <dangranos> ^
L570[10:27:17] <asie> if I add a way to "splice" a tape
L571[10:27:19] <asie> to make it shorter
L572[10:27:21] <Cazzar> asie: If you do that refactoring, I would work on adding it
L573[10:27:24] <asie> it would go very well with jukeboxes
L574[10:27:25] <asie> Cazzar: sure!
L575[10:27:31] <asie> Computronics 0.4.0 for 1.6.4 should have it
L576[10:27:34] <gamax92> well, perhaps I can have a read only fat filesystem on a jukebox.
L577[10:27:35] <asie> 1.7.2 work has been paused indefinitely
L578[10:27:41] <gamax92> :P
L579[10:27:43] <dangranos> asie, i think it can be implemented in lua .-.
L580[10:28:00] <asie> dangranos: yes, but a jukebox cannot be programmed
L581[10:28:00] <dangranos> i mean slicing
L582[10:28:03] <asie> also no
L583[10:28:07] <Cazzar> asie: whats the issue with 1.7.x?
L584[10:28:08] <asie> you can't change the length in Lua, yet
L585[10:28:10] <asie> Cazzar: 1.7.2 is buggy
L586[10:28:16] <Cazzar> as in?
L587[10:28:17] <asie> 1.7.4 brings fixes for the connected textures issue
L588[10:28:20] <Skuli> so computrronics is compatible with opencomputers?
L589[10:28:22] <asie> and 1.7.6 fixes a very important bug
L590[10:28:27] <asie> that causes some people to not see the world
L591[10:28:28] <gamax92> Skuli: yeah
L592[10:28:29] <asie> *at all*
L593[10:28:31] <dangranos> skuli, SUDDENLY
L594[10:28:33] <Skuli> it just mentions CC in the forum post
L595[10:28:33] <asie> also, mods are still flaky on 1.7
L596[10:28:37] <asie> i'm going to wait until, like, July
L597[10:28:40] <asie> Skuli: yes it does! I should fix that
L598[10:28:46] <Skuli> oh
L599[10:28:50] <Skuli> i didn't even notice that was your mod
L600[10:29:01] <dangranos> lol
L601[10:29:04] * gamax92 installs Skuli to a tape.
L602[10:29:12] <Cazzar> I want lex to update to another forge build, but he doesnt have plans to
L603[10:29:26] <Cazzar> s/forge/minecraft
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L605[10:29:33] <gamax92> s/forge/froge/
L606[10:29:43] <tgame14> Cazzar, he plans to wait to 1.8??
L607[10:29:51] <Cazzar> apparantly
L608[10:29:52] <gamax92> It says Minecraft Froge somewhere in a readme iirc.
L609[10:30:01] <dangranos> lol
L610[10:30:09] <tgame14> err, i was planning on 1.7.9 forge :/
L611[10:30:22] <Cazzar> dont quote me
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L613[10:30:38] <Cazzar> i may be (and proabably are) wrong
L614[10:30:46] <gamax92> asie: have you ever had problems with 1.6.2 froge?
L615[10:30:57] <tgame14> Cazzar, won't quote
L616[10:31:00] <asie> tgame14: 1.7.9 Forge is said to be released around 1.8
L617[10:31:07] <asie> but he probably won't
L618[10:31:11] <tgame14> i highly doubt any sources you have asie
L619[10:31:17] <asie> tgame14: i don't have any sources
L620[10:31:18] <dangranos> what will be after minecraft 1.9?
L621[10:31:21] <asie> other than logs on #TinkersConstruct
L622[10:31:25] <tgame14> which mean shit
L623[10:31:34] <asie> the #TCon guys claim a 1.7.x build will be released, immibis and Lex claim otherwise
L624[10:31:36] <tgame14> don't spread info based on nothing
L625[10:31:46] <asie> tgame14: i said "is said to be"
L626[10:31:47] <dangranos> ^
L627[10:31:48] <asie> not "will be"
L628[10:31:50] <gamax92> after 1.9? 1.10
L629[10:31:56] <gamax92> because fuck you version numbers
L630[10:32:05] <dangranos> why irc so fast/slow sometimes?
L631[10:32:05] <asie> as in, someone said it will be
L632[10:32:07] <asie> and not it will be
L633[10:32:13] <asie> i am spreading what other people say because they might be right
L634[10:32:21] <JoshTheEnder> 1.8.1.1.1 -> 1.8.1.1.2
L635[10:32:22] <gamax92> spread the word of jebus
L636[10:32:22] <asie> so it'd be good to know what other people say on the same subject
L637[10:32:27] <tgame14> it is based on nothing.
L638[10:32:29] <asie> gamax92: nobody listens to it
L639[10:32:33] <gamax92> lol
L640[10:32:35] <asie> tgame14: no, it is based on what other people heard from other people
L641[10:32:43] <tgame14> so nothing.
L642[10:32:47] <asie> or, in the case of NEI being closed, on looking at the source code tree
L643[10:32:57] <dangranos> hmm
L644[10:33:06] <dangranos> youtube is kinda working, but no images .-.
L645[10:33:06] <tgame14> i more like the fact you changed your comment post me telling you its open
L646[10:33:13] <asie> tgame14: i never changed my comment post
L647[10:33:14] <asie> and it's not open
L648[10:33:17] <tgame14> it is open
L649[10:33:19] <asie> no
L650[10:33:21] <gamax92> But seriously, Any time i tried to use the 1.6.2 froge it does: Deobf' correctly, Deobf's wrong, and Doesn't deobf.
L651[10:33:23] <asie> no license == all rights reserved
L652[10:33:27] <asie> that's what every lawyer will tell you
L653[10:33:27] <tgame14> bullshit
L654[10:33:35] <tgame14> stop playing internet lawyer
L655[10:33:37] <gamax92> it made porting a mod a pain.
L656[10:33:40] <asie> tgame14: http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/148146/open-source-code-with-no-license-can-i-fork-it
L657[10:33:42] <tgame14> ever read Bitbucket terms?
L658[10:34:05] <asie> tgame14: yes
L659[10:34:06] <asie> "End User represents and warrants that it will accurately designate both the license under which the code in the repository is licensed to third parties and the project license for any contributions by collaborators. Project collaborators should carefully read all third party licenses before using any code or contributing any code."
L660[10:34:11] <tgame14> open means permission to fork.
L661[10:34:16] <asie> no permission to fork i saw there
L662[10:34:24] <Cazzar> Also: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
L663[10:34:24] <asie> and only GitHub has such a provision
L664[10:34:28] <Kenny|AFK> tgame14: as much as i hate to do it, in this case i agree with asie about 'no license' means all rights reserved
L665[10:34:38] <tgame14> Kenny|AFK, i never said it wasn't
L666[10:34:41] <Kenny|AFK> i just read about it yesterday
L667[10:35:24] <tgame14> im saying asie likes spreading info like he has valid sources
L668[10:35:30] <dangranos> uh
L669[10:35:33] <tgame14> and mostly, spreading drama
L670[10:35:37] <asie> tgame14: no
L671[10:35:40] <tgame14> which is why i have 0 trust in anything he ever says
L672[10:35:43] <asie> give one message which was a lie
L673[10:35:44] <asie> :)
L674[10:35:45] <dangranos> anyone else have problems with youtube?
L675[10:35:48] <asie> just one
L676[10:35:51] <tgame14> AE transfer cells
L677[10:35:57] <Kenny|AFK> i've heard the same thing he has said but from different sources
L678[10:35:58] <asie> Algo only decided to do it 4 months into AE2 dev
L679[10:36:02] <asie> and I asked him before it was announced
L680[10:36:03] <asie> read the logs
L681[10:36:08] <Skuli> does your chatbox receive /whispers or /tells, asie?
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L684[10:36:12] <gamax92> Kenny|AFK: 96 tracked floppies with 648 byte sectors?
L685[10:36:14] <asie> Skuli: no, only /me's
L686[10:36:18] <asie> but that's only in 0.4.0
L687[10:36:20] <dangranos> hmm
L688[10:36:22] <asie> until 0.4.0, just chat message
L689[10:36:25] <asie> in 0.4.0, chat messages and /me's
L690[10:36:25] <Wobbo> And I returned!
L691[10:36:26] <JoshTheEnder> dangranos: all fine here
L692[10:36:27] <Kenny|AFK> also Lex is updating mods to 1.8 rather than worrying about 1.7 any more
L693[10:36:29] <asie> and the creative chatbox will receive everything
L694[10:36:53] <gamax92> Gamax92 -> Unknown: Send Asie "Hello"
L695[10:36:53] <asie> oh look!
L696[10:36:57] <asie> BitBucket terms -> "End User hereby grants Atlassian a non-exclusive license to copy, distribute, perform, display, store, modify, and otherwise use End User Data in connection with operating the Hosted Services.'
L697[10:37:03] <asie> i know this line! Mojang has the exact same line in their EULA!
L698[10:37:07] <Vexatos> Wobbo, how should I add an event listener?
L699[10:37:08] <gamax92> Unknown -> Gamax92: This is Router, I will send Asie message.
L700[10:37:09] <asie> almost exact same :P
L701[10:37:15] <Vexatos> If I do event.listen() I have it
L702[10:37:19] <Vexatos> But what then?
L703[10:37:34] <asie> tgame14: and i don't care about drama, i care about proving a point
L704[10:37:35] <Vexatos> Just while true do end? :D
L705[10:37:36] <asie> read my blog
L706[10:37:42] <asie> more than just one post
L707[10:37:43] <Zlepper> Anyone has an example code, that can write "yada yada" to a file? I can't seem to get it working at all.
L708[10:37:47] <tgame14> i really don't want to.
L709[10:37:53] <gamax92> Vexatos: wait, can you send me my hastebin i sent you?
L710[10:37:56] <asie> because you're set on proving that i'm a retard and wrong
L711[10:37:57] <asie> for some odd reason
L712[10:38:02] <Vexatos> Ok, gamax92
L713[10:38:02] <gamax92> because, i totally didn;t bookmark it.
L714[10:38:03] <Vexatos> Why?
L715[10:38:03] <tgame14> im not proving you are a retard
L716[10:38:07] <asie> still waiting for an example ._.
L717[10:38:15] <Vexatos> I didn't either
L718[10:38:16] <JoshTheEnder> asie & tgame14 can you take this discussion into either a PM or another channel?
L719[10:38:17] <tgame14> AE cells, has nothing to do with you asking
L720[10:38:17] <Wobbo> Vexatos: An event listener is an fucntio that gets called when the event gets thrown
L721[10:38:23] <tgame14> JoshTheEnder, fair enough, ill stop.
L722[10:38:24] <asie> tgame14: yes it does because it wasn't planned before
L723[10:38:28] <asie> i'll stop to
L724[10:38:29] <asie> o
L725[10:38:35] <Vexatos> Wobbo: I know
L726[10:38:40] <gamax92> Vexatos: you can reread messages.
L727[10:38:42] <Vexatos> But what to do after I registered it
L728[10:38:48] <dangranos> irc, why you are so fast?
L729[10:38:51] <Vexatos> gamax
L730[10:38:56] <Vexatos> I have it in my history
L731[10:38:56] <Vexatos> http://hastebin.com/idiwepebiy.lua
L732[10:38:59] <Cazzar> Also someone should say what Array(5).join("wat" - 1) + " Batman!" in javascript comes out with :P
L733[10:38:59] <JoshTheEnder> dangranos: because \o/
L734[10:39:53] <gamax92> Vexatos: im confused, it says E is a .
L735[10:39:56] <Wobbo> Vexatos: You mean until the string is done?
L736[10:39:58] <gamax92> and in my code, E is a .
L737[10:40:18] <Vexatos> Wobbo, no, I registered the event listener for "redstone_changed"
L738[10:40:22] <Vexatos> it will do what I want now
L739[10:40:30] <Vexatos> but what am I supposed to do now?
L740[10:40:33] <gamax92> Vexatos: Is E not supposed to be a .?
L741[10:40:37] <Vexatos> It is
L742[10:40:41] <gamax92> ??????????
L743[10:41:07] <dangranos> youtube why do you show me this "Popular channel you might like. "? (actually this is very shitty channel)
L744[10:41:19] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Wait until your string is collected
L745[10:41:30] <Vexatos> How to do that?
L746[10:41:40] <gamax92> Vexatos: y u no like my work :'<
L747[10:41:44] <Wobbo> I don’t know. Isn’t there an EOF in morse?
L748[10:41:55] <gamax92> full stop?
L749[10:41:59] <Vexatos> Wobbo: There is
L750[10:42:04] <Vexatos> ...-.-
L751[10:42:11] <Vexatos> So, I shall wait until that?
L752[10:42:19] <Vexatos> Mhm
L753[10:42:21] <Vexatos> could work
L754[10:42:44] <Wobbo> Yeah, I would do that I guess
L755[10:42:45] <Vexatos> repeat <something> until chars[#chars]=="...-.-"
L756[10:42:47] <Vexatos> does that work?
L757[10:43:02] <Vexatos> But what to insert into <somethin>? Just a yield?
L758[10:43:03] <Vexatos> :D
L759[10:43:17] * Vexatos is now known as Vexanoob
L760[10:43:32] <gamax92> I can't find anything for ...-.-
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L762[10:44:06] <Vexatos> >_>
L763[10:44:30] <gamax92> Vexatos: it keeps telling me the word AR should mean End of Message.
L764[10:45:13] <Vexatos> AR might be as well
L765[10:45:16] <Wobbo> I got the first chapter of the Manga guide in Lisp in English! :D
L766[10:45:32] <Wobbo> It makes almost as little snese to me as the Japanese version! :D
L767[10:45:33] <Vexatos> AR means "ready for receiving" basically
L768[10:45:38] <Vexatos> ...-.- really means "done"
L769[10:46:00] <Vexatos> Wobbo: How do I do that
L770[10:46:01] <Vexatos> :<
L771[10:46:05] <JoshTheEnder> right, home time me thinks. been sitting in this room since about 10am this morning and it's now 15:46
L772[10:46:29] <Wobbo> Vexatos: I don’t know morse, I only told you how to collect the letters. Just repeat until EOF
L773[10:47:03] <Wobbo> JoshTheEnder: That must mean you are in the UK if I am not mistaken
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L775[10:47:17] <gamax92> oh, its not end of message
L776[10:47:20] <gamax92> its end of transmission
L777[10:47:24] <Vexatos> Yea
L778[10:47:29] <Vexatos> Which it basically is, in this case
L779[10:48:02] <Vexatos> I used SK instead of AR
L780[10:48:45] <Wobbo> But if you use SK you can’t send SKUNK over morse D:
L781[10:49:01] <Vexatos> Yes you can
L782[10:49:14] <Vexatos> because between letters there is a "new letter" character
L783[10:49:32] <Vexatos> And the EOF is handled as a single character
L784[10:49:46] <Vexatos> So, "SK" would be parsed as ..._-.-
L785[10:49:53] <Vexatos> Instead of ...-.-
L786[10:50:10] <gamax92> true, it would
L787[10:50:11] <Wobbo> Ah
L788[10:52:37] <gamax92> oh wait, wobbo. I love toy.
L789[10:53:00] <Wobbo> You love toy?
L790[10:53:16] <gamax92> Terrible Object Yielding
L791[10:53:28] <Vexatos> Wobbo: I still don't have a clue what to do after registering the event listener
L792[10:54:05] <Wobbo> Vexatos: sleeping until EOF
L793[10:54:13] <Vexatos> So,
L794[10:54:27] <Vexatos> repeat os.sleep() until chars[#chars]=="...-.-"
L795[10:54:32] <Vexatos> That?
L796[10:54:33] <Wobbo> Yeah
L797[10:54:33] <Vexatos> :|
L798[10:54:36] <Vexatos> Ok
L799[10:55:06] <Vexatos> Dangit, I cannot close javaw.exe
L800[10:55:07] <Vexatos> >_>
L801[10:55:14] <gamax92> taskkill /f /im javaw.exe
L802[10:55:21] <Vexatos> Thanks
L803[10:55:21] <gamax92> and even then, since its windows, that may not even work.
L804[10:55:28] <Vexatos> ikr
L805[10:55:46] <gamax92> Atleast linux can guarentee I can kill processes, and they will immediatly stop.
L806[10:56:37] <Vexatos> Still there :D
L807[10:57:07] <Wobbo> gamax92: This program isn’t reacting. Better kill -9 it :P
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L811[10:57:28] <Vexatos> It sais that the process has been killed successfully
L812[10:57:31] <Vexatos> But it did not
L813[10:57:44] <Wobbo> Windows: lying to you since forever
L814[10:58:04] <Vexatos> That's why I am going linux as soon as I get my new PC
L815[10:58:21] <Wobbo> What linux?
L816[10:58:43] <dangranos> i hate my isp
L817[10:58:53] <Vexatos> get PC -> install linux -> copy all the files from laptop to linux -> kill laptop -> install linux on laptop -> copy all the files from PC to laptop -> Happy
L818[10:59:03] <Vexatos> Wobbo: Linux Mint Cinnamon, most likely
L819[10:59:11] <gamax92> I remember writing some program that would try to kill the process, kill the windows with the process, and randomy change memory, oh and it kills all threads.
L820[10:59:11] <gamax92> but, then it didn't work.
L821[10:59:12] <gamax92> D: Cinnamon
L822[10:59:47] <Vexatos> I like it
L823[11:00:00] <Wobbo> Ah, cinnamon
L824[11:00:38] <Vexatos> Let me restart my pc
L825[11:00:42] <Vexatos> iuhgoiaurgag windows
L826[11:00:56] <dangranos> why?
L827[11:01:05] <Wobbo> I would have gone with Mate, but that is just taste
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L829[11:02:51] <Vexatos> Mhm
L830[11:05:06] <gamax92> I've learned with linux, doing dist_upgrades tend to break lots of things.
L831[11:05:19] <dangranos> which linux?
L832[11:05:27] <gamax92> uhh, it was linux mint
L833[11:05:28] <dangranos> ubuntu?
L834[11:05:50] <dangranos> ubuntu
L835[11:06:17] <Zlepper> Anyone else unable to use robots in any but the vanilla worlds?
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L837[11:06:44] <Wobbo> Zlepper: that complaint sounds familair
L838[11:06:48] <gamax92> Basically, the dist upgrade removed a modules folder for my kernel, and when i booted back up media keys, track pad, and wifi didn;t work
L839[11:06:55] <Wobbo> Maybe you should have a look at the issue tracker
L840[11:07:50] <gamax92> But thankfully, there were 5 kernels on my computer, and one of them corresponded to the modules folder I now had.
L841[11:10:23] <Zlepper> Wobbo: I can't find anything on the issue tracker like it. Should i just post there, and wait for it to be fixed?
L842[11:10:30] <gamax92> yeah
L843[11:10:41] <Wobbo> Zlepper: Under the closed issues?
L844[11:11:28] <Zlepper> Checked there too, nothing like it.
L845[11:11:46] <Zlepper> The jenkins changelog doesn't state anything about this issue either
L846[11:11:59] <Wobbo> Then you should open a new issue and Sangar will have a look later
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L848[11:12:33] <Sangar> uhh, what kind of worlds? if they're timeless computers won't work.
L849[11:12:39] <Wobbo> Don’t forget to mention which non vanilla worlds you tried
L850[11:13:14] <Zlepper> Sangar: Aromas mining world
L851[11:13:35] <Zlepper> http://goo.gl/3EWn24
L852[11:13:43] <Kenny|AFK> Sangar: we worked with that all rerady
L853[11:13:51] <Sangar> yeaaaaah, we had that discussion before. his world is kinda borked in that respect.
L854[11:13:51] <Kenny|AFK> it is a timeless world
L855[11:14:40] <dangranos> why does OC require time to work?
L856[11:14:50] <Kenny|AFK> world tick
L857[11:14:54] <gamax92> Because, OC.
L858[11:15:07] <Sangar> sleeps won't end otherwise
L859[11:15:23] <Zlepper> Aren't BC quarries running on ticks too? They seems to work fine?
L860[11:15:38] <dangranos> maybe different ticks?
L861[11:16:00] <Kenny|AFK> maybe they include their own tick event so as not to rely on MC's tick
L862[11:16:35] <Sangar> well, i have some time now, so i might as well have another look... :P
L863[11:17:33] <Zlepper> It would be awesome if you could make it work, especialy for 1.7 ;)
L864[11:18:00] <gamax92> You know what would be awesome, "free"
L865[11:18:04] <gamax92> because, tracking memory usage.
L866[11:18:06] *** JoshTheEnder|InTheShadows is now known as JoshTheEnder
L867[11:18:24] <Zlepper> I'm gonna post this for Aroma to look over too. Anything special I should mention?
L868[11:19:06] <Sangar> well, the main issue is that the world's actual time (world.getWorldTime) never progresses.
L869[11:19:41] <JoshTheEnder> "<Wobbo> JoshTheEnder: That must mean you are in the UK if I am not mistaken" YEs
L870[11:19:57] <Wobbo> Who, more europeans I know of :P
L871[11:20:05] <gamax92> GARG MAHZILLEH FIREFAX CRASH
L872[11:24:03] <JoshTheEnder> right, now to compile InspIRCd for linux
L873[11:24:17] <JoshTheEnder> Michiyo, what SSL stuff are you using again?
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L875[11:27:54] <gamax92> hmm, CHIP 8 emulator for OC
L876[11:28:04] <gamax92> Sangar: there are key up events right?
L877[11:28:51] <Sangar> so yeah, regarding the worldtime, i can't "make my own" by incrementing a tick counter in update() because then times will be all wrong when the world's time is changed manually (/time set), which would lead to all kinds of weird issues...
L878[11:28:58] <Sangar> gamax92, yes, there are
L879[11:30:30] <Michiyo> JoshTheEnder, GnuTLS
L880[11:30:40] <JoshTheEnder> ok
L881[11:31:42] <gamax92> Sangar: what do you mean times will be all wrong?
L882[11:32:13] <Kenny|AFK> computer time would not match world time
L883[11:32:15] <Sangar> computers would have the wrong time. in particular, different computers could have different times...
L884[11:32:55] <gamax92> don't you just grab the time from the world the computer is in?
L885[11:33:33] <Sangar> that's what i do. but in some worlds (see above, Aroma's mining world) time doesn't progress. so sleeps never end. so computers don't work.
L886[11:33:47] <JoshTheEnder> IIRC, yes, which is why some modded worlds bork computers
L887[11:33:49] <Sangar> iirc this also caused issues with some redstone stuff?
L888[11:34:13] <dangranos> isnt there exists redstone ticks?
L889[11:34:26] <dangranos> or they are too slow?
L890[11:34:27] <Michiyo> yeah, I used to timelock my space world... which fubared CC, and RedPower stuff all the time
L891[11:34:27] <gamax92> Sangar: See I don't understand, the time doesn't progress, so when you ask for the current world time it would always be the same. But if you manage your own counter, wouldn't you do sleeps based on that?
L892[11:35:05] <Kenny|AFK> but each computer would be out of synch with the others
L893[11:35:09] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92, the problem with that is computers would have different times
L894[11:35:11] <Sangar> yes. but in every other world where time *does* progress, that can then deviate from world time.
L895[11:35:29] <Sangar> and in extension, what Josh said
L896[11:35:38] <Sangar> and Kenny
L897[11:35:41] <Sangar> and me earlier :P
L898[11:36:05] <gamax92> :<
L899[11:36:32] <gamax92> Sangar: Certain computers wouldn't update their counters and go out of sync?
L900[11:36:50] <Kenny|AFK> which would mean that all of that morse code stuf would be borked
L901[11:37:33] <gamax92> isn't it broken anyway if computers can be blocked by others?
L902[11:37:40] <Sangar> gamax92, they'd go out of sync by stuff like /time set
L903[11:37:59] <gamax92> Sangar: but /time set only modifies the world time, and your counter still goes up?
L904[11:38:08] <Sangar> exactly
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L906[11:38:13] <gamax92> so whats the problem?
L907[11:38:24] <Sangar> ... that the computer time would be wrong
L908[11:38:31] <Sangar> because it'd be based on the counter
L909[11:38:37] <gamax92> but computer time would be simply asking what the world time is.
L910[11:38:40] <gamax92> and not based on the counter
L911[11:38:41] <Sangar> ...
L912[11:38:46] <Sangar> sleep is based on computer time
L913[11:38:58] <gamax92> and having a counter would make it change to the counter?
L914[11:39:42] <gamax92> I mean, lua sided anyway you aren't telling the computer, Sleep until its 11:30. You're telling it sleep for 2 seconds.
L915[11:40:12] <gamax92> counter updates for 2 seconds, then timer fires
L916[11:40:58] <Sangar> see, that's wrong. lua says "i want to continue at 11:30", but it can be resumed much earlier due to signals, so if it's not 11:30 then, it does it again. until it's 11:30
L917[11:41:56] <Sangar> so that counter would have to be exposed to lua, which would be really nasty imho
L918[11:42:14] <Sangar> because it's an implementation detail that "in-world" scripts should not see
L919[11:43:25] <gamax92> Sangar: Then it would be sandboxed away?
L920[11:45:04] <Sangar> implement os.sleep in the kernel? meh :/ what would work is computer local times... and allow changing them. hmm... that might actually be nice to have.
L921[11:45:37] <dangranos> uh
L922[11:45:38] <gamax92> oh nvm, i though os.sleep was in the kernel
L923[11:45:45] <dangranos> iirc in cc sleep is lua sided
L924[11:46:01] <Sangar> i'll think about it some more, gotta go for a bit. see you later!
L925[11:46:09] <gamax92> in CC sleep is, Spawn timer, while true do pull timers, if timer is the we created then return end
L926[11:46:58] <Wobbo> Bye Sangar
L927[11:47:01] <gamax92> and, during the sleep it blocks CC from doing anything, and any timers not the one sleep created get lost.
L928[11:47:11] <dangranos> гр
L929[11:47:17] <dangranos> uh
L930[11:47:23] <dangranos> nope
L931[11:47:28] <dangranos> it yields
L932[11:47:41] <dangranos> so it doesnt block everyting
L933[11:48:20] <gamax92> i meant the computer code
L934[11:48:26] <gamax92> its not blocking minecraft or other computers.
L935[11:48:40] <gamax92> but during its sleep, nothing is happening besides waiting for timers.
L936[11:49:34] <dangranos> uh
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L938[11:51:07] <dangranos> http://pastebin.com/TbRMEJ4P
L939[11:51:27] <dangranos> it just yields
L940[11:52:00] <dangranos> so you can use coroutines to prevent blocking
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L946[12:28:37] <ds84182> gamax92: For the most part the filesystem thing works :D
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L949[12:58:08] <vifino> gamax92: How do I give another full admin rights, as you did in #boatloader?
L950[13:03:08] <ds84182> I need to fix deletion... crap
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L952[13:08:15] <ds84182> Yeeeah, fixing the linkage in delete is going to be hard
L953[13:09:13] <ds84182> Time to rewrite part of the spec again :/
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L955[13:20:37] <gamax92> uhh, vifino.
L956[13:20:47] <gamax92> You can have BoatLoader, i have no desire to work on it.
L957[13:20:57] <gamax92> As I have written CCGrub, and finished CCGrub, and it works.
L958[13:21:15] <Wobbo> gamax92: OCGrub? :D
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L960[13:26:21] <asie> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuqVyNf3BeXLdHNXYkxQTTRITEoyc0kwUC1pY3lDWkE&usp=drive_web
L961[13:26:29] <asie> i think this is an almost complete choice of mods in my new pack
L962[13:27:02] <Bizzycola> ohai
L963[13:33:29] <gamax92> Gah these wifi drop outs.
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L967[13:42:28] * EnderBot 2 is shutting down :(
L968[13:48:01] <Bizzycola> k
L969[13:48:16] <gamax92> fergin wifi
L970[13:48:34] <gamax92> Sangar: so, not sure if you got my message, but why do components randomly connect in random orders randomly?
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L974[13:51:05] <Dashkal> That surprised me as well. I was expecting them to connect in item slot order for inside case/server. (External it makes sense, as there's no "natural" order)
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L977[13:52:02] <gamax92> Dashkal: uhh, not not really.
L978[13:52:08] <Wobbo> All the bots are shutting down! D:
L979[13:52:08] <gamax92> pci busses have slot numbers.
L980[13:52:18] <gamax92> you can read all the slots from 0, to max slot.
L981[13:52:31] <JoshTheEnder> mine does that when i ^C it
L982[13:53:05] <gamax92> you know, how in BIOS you can tell it to do floppy, CD, USB, HDD.
L983[13:53:07] <gamax92> Yeah, order.
L984[13:53:33] <gamax92> so no, it really makes no se.se
L985[13:53:34] <gamax92> sense*
L986[13:56:28] <JoshTheEnder> $slap himself
L987[13:56:28] * SuperBot slaps himself around a bit with a rusty nail
L988[13:57:05] <JoshTheEnder> !flags
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L993[14:12:32] <gamax92> does this channel have a log bot
L994[14:12:51] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92, in what sense?
L995[14:12:56] <gamax92> it logs chat
L996[14:13:14] <gamax92> Sort of like ^v except actually here.
L997[14:13:45] <JoshTheEnder> there are a few users that log the chat, though none of them can search it via commands
L998[14:14:02] <JoshTheEnder> (by that i mean like .log test)
L999[14:14:13] <gamax92> oh, just public logs.
L1000[14:14:16] <gamax92> doesnt need any commands.
L1001[14:15:03] <JoshTheEnder> i /could/ add a command to EnderBot(2) that patches into the same logs as the stats use
L1002[14:15:18] <gamax92> the stats?
L1003[14:15:27] <JoshTheEnder> ?chanstats
L1004[14:15:27] <EnderBot> Stats are provided by Kenny: http://thatjoshgreen.me/other/irc/stats/oc.html
L1005[14:16:29] <gamax92> Most referenced nick: Sangar
L1006[14:16:52] <Dashkal> Does anybody know offhand if OC can interface with a Big Reactors CC port?
L1007[14:16:55] <Wobbo> That was unexpected :P
L1008[14:17:18] <JoshTheEnder> Dashkal, it has OC support IIRC (cc Kenny|AFK )
L1009[14:17:30] <Dashkal> ooo, awesome. Will test when I reach lunch break.
L1010[14:20:00] <gamax92> Dashkal: you did get my message regarding component order right?
L1011[14:20:12] <gamax92> Wifi dropped out like immediatly after
L1012[14:23:05] <Dashkal> gamax92: I think we miscommunicated.
L1013[14:23:19] <Dashkal> There's absolutely a natural order of internal components. There isn't one for external (MC world) components.
L1014[14:23:30] <Dashkal> Short of perhaps a lexigraphical sort on coords
L1015[14:23:59] <gamax92> i have no external components on my computer, they still list randomly.
L1016[14:24:07] <Dashkal> Indeed. At present they're random
L1017[14:24:14] <Dashkal> We agree that this is odd
L1018[14:24:43] <gamax92> oh, i thought you meant internal ones did have order.
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L1020[14:25:32] <Dashkal> I said that, but not meaning what you thought I meant.
L1021[14:25:34] <Wobbo> Neat!
L1022[14:25:42] <gamax92> ???
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L1024[14:25:47] <Wobbo> ,(print “Hello, World!”)
L1025[14:25:54] <gamax92> Gah, so confused.
L1026[14:26:00] <Dashkal> An order can easily be defined for internal components (slot ID). OC doesn't use it, you simply get all components in some random ordering.
L1027[14:26:17] <gamax92> right
L1028[14:26:32] <Wobbo> ,help
L1029[14:26:33] <WobBot> ;; ,forms = Eval forms and print the values of the last one. / ,help = This help message. / ,(tell nick form) = Eval form and send the form and its value to nick.
L1030[14:27:12] <Dashkal> Note that it's likely not at all a simple change. I strongly suspect that the "origin" of a comment is long lost by the time the component added events are being fired.
L1031[14:27:35] <Dashkal> I've only started digging through the code, though. I am NOT an authority here.
L1032[14:27:39] <Wobbo> ,(format “Hello, World!”)
L1033[14:27:54] <Wobbo> Meh, no IO apperently
L1034[14:28:03] <Wobbo> ,(+ 42 0)
L1035[14:28:04] <WobBot> => 42
L1036[14:28:23] <Dashkal> I've just started because I'd like some "hardware acceleration" cards. Regex was the first idea. I kinda want access to the JVM crypto libs.
L1037[14:28:43] <gamax92> Grep is a great resource ;)
L1038[14:28:45] <gamax92> and wifi dropout ...
L1039[14:29:12] <gamax92> Dashkal: hmm, acceleration cards.
L1040[14:29:42] <Dashkal> In-game, it's hardware accelerators. Implementation, it's simply access to JVM apis I want.
L1041[14:30:19] <Dashkal> Something I'll tinker with over the weekend. That or a new big reactor rig. Haven't decided yet.
L1042[14:31:22] <Dashkal> The api design is definitely not trivial (Do it wrong and all the carefully made processing limitations go poof)
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L1047[14:37:29] <Wobbo> ,(defun fact (n) (if (= n 1) 1 (* n (factorial (- n1)))))
L1048[14:37:30] <WobBot> => FACT
L1049[14:37:38] <Wobbo> ,(fact 10)
L1050[14:37:39] <WobBot> ;; UNBOUND-VARIABLE: The variable N1 is unbound.
L1051[14:37:52] <Wobbo> ,(defun fact (n) (if (= n 1) 1 (* n (factorial (- n 1)))))
L1052[14:37:53] <WobBot> => FACT
L1053[14:38:00] <Wobbo> ,(fact 10)
L1054[14:38:01] <WobBot> ;; UNDEFINED-FUNCTION: The function FACTORIAL is undefined.
L1055[14:38:10] <Wobbo> ,(defun fact (n) (if (= n 1) 1 (* n (fact (- n 1)))))
L1056[14:38:11] <WobBot> => FACT
L1057[14:38:15] <Wobbo> ,(fact 10)
L1058[14:38:16] <WobBot> => 3628800
L1059[14:38:49] <Wobbo> Alright, “my” bot seems to be working correclty.
L1060[14:41:42] <tgame14> argh botspam :/
L1061[14:41:46] <tgame14> add him to #ocbots
L1062[14:41:51] <tgame14> test him there
L1063[14:41:53] <Wobbo> Will do that
L1064[14:42:12] <Wobbo> That is a better idea anyway
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L1066[14:46:42] <DeanOnAPhone> Dashkal, what exactly is you idea with those acceleration cards?
L1067[14:50:15] <Dashkal> DeanOnAPhone: Inserting the regex acceleration card would provide access to the java.util.text.Pattern/Matcher API
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L1083[15:26:21] <Wobbo> Porygon: Yes, it moved to #ocbots if you want to play with it
L1084[15:26:26] <Porygon> k
L1085[15:26:33] <Wobbo> I diddn’t write it myself, but I want to extend it for OC
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L1088[15:27:03] <Wobbo> I only know CLisp :P
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L1110[16:11:44] <Dashkal> Sweet. BR definitely works with OC. Can't 100% that it's native (I also have CC/OpenP) but I can see the api.
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L1114[16:44:29] <Dashkal> "A small bugfix release, plus one significant feature contributed by the excellent FNuecke: Open Computers support." <-- ok, it's definitely native
L1115[16:44:51] <Michiyo> q_q Kenny and I helped..
L1116[16:44:52] <Michiyo> lol
L1117[16:45:24] <ds84182> Ok, time to fix fs.delete
L1118[16:45:30] <Dashkal> Blame ebeef :P I just copied that from the BR web site
L1119[16:45:37] <ds84182> since all the other methods are now working
L1120[16:47:16] * EnderBot 2 is shutting down :(
L1121[16:48:56] <ds84182> Um
L1122[16:49:02] <ds84182> Minecraft just froze on me
L1123[16:49:22] <JoshTheEnder> .josh
L1124[16:49:22] <EnderBot> Future ruler/ender of the world, often likes to destroy people by throwing busses full of children at them. Sometimes puppies are in place of children. Does not give a damn about what you think, and will pretty much eat your soul.
L1125[16:49:22] <EnderBot> - http://goo.gl/35fRvm
L1126[16:49:23] <ds84182> It's reading a crap-ton of data from my HDD
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L1128[16:54:20] <ds84182> that moment when you forget to update your file entry writing function
L1129[16:55:02] <ds84182> I was wondering why TDFS was getting corrupted :P
L1130[16:56:42] <ds84182> gamax92: You here?
L1131[16:57:04] <ds84182> nop
L1132[17:00:23] <Wobbo> JoshTheEnder: So… could you not come to The Netherlands please? :P
L1133[17:01:11] <JoshTheEnder> Wobbo, nil
L1134[17:01:29] <Wobbo> At least leave the busses alone
L1135[17:01:59] <JoshTheEnder> no, nothing is safe
L1136[17:02:58] <Wobbo> D:
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L1140[17:37:29] <ds84182> I think tdfs is ready for mounting!
L1141[17:37:30] <ds84182> :D
L1142[17:40:31] <ds84182> :DDDD
L1143[17:40:31] <ds84182> It works
L1144[17:40:56] <ds84182> gamax92: get you bleeding carcass in here.
L1145[17:41:32] <ds84182> waaaaait
L1146[17:41:45] <ds84182> am I supposed to return true/false for the commands?
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L1158[18:17:31] <gamax92> ds84182: yo
L1159[18:18:02] <gamax92> ds84182: https://github.com/OpenPrograms/gamax92-Programs/blob/master/tapefs.lua example filesystem proxy.
L1160[18:20:18] <ds84182> already have a fs proxy up and running
L1161[18:20:24] <gamax92> you did ask.
L1162[18:20:29] <ds84182> I just need to fix delete
L1163[18:20:37] <gamax92> you mean remove?
L1164[18:20:39] <ds84182> like... a long time ago
L1165[18:20:49] <ds84182> yeah, that
L1166[18:20:51] <gamax92> no, you asked 37 minutes ago.
L1167[18:23:52] <ds84182> gamax92: Putting code on github
L1168[18:24:12] <ds84182> 718 lines
L1169[18:24:15] <ds84182> gah
L1170[18:24:53] <ds84182> also tdfs specs change A LOT
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L1172[18:33:08] <Techokami> bah, the build of OC I've been waiting for is failed in Jenkins
L1173[18:34:14] <Techokami> it'd help to have the audio support available when working on a Lua script that uses it :V
L1174[18:34:33] <gamax92> Hello welcome to OpenAL how may we help you
L1175[18:35:09] <ds84182> gamax92: https://github.com/ds84182/ds84182-Programs/blob/master/tdfs.lua
L1176[18:35:15] <ds84182> It is so crappy omg
L1177[18:35:21] <gamax92> lawl ds84182-Programs
L1178[18:35:25] <ds84182> and I have to completely rewrite fs.remove
L1179[18:35:26] <ds84182> yes
L1180[18:36:28] <ds84182> E is for entry!
L1181[18:36:33] <ds84182> B is for block!
L1182[18:37:17] <gamax92> I'm so confused, why didn't you make this a normal proxy library.
L1183[18:37:22] <gamax92> why is everything global
L1184[18:37:29] <ds84182> I DON'T KNOW
L1185[18:37:36] <ds84182> NOT EVERYTIHNG IS GLOBAL
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L1187[18:38:36] <ds84182> wait, can you create threads or something in OC?
L1188[18:38:45] <gamax92> coroutines?
L1189[18:38:54] <ds84182> yes, but unmanaged?
L1190[18:39:04] <ds84182> Like, I don't have to mange them
L1191[18:39:06] <gamax92> Sangar: ^
L1192[18:51:00] <Sangar> gamax92, order is random because of the underlying architecture, the computer can't differentiate built-in vs external components :/ i could sort by id to make it somewhat less random, but that's just a superficial fix, because the ids are random.
L1193[18:52:08] <Sangar> Techokami, oops. fixed the build script, building now.
L1194[18:52:14] <Techokami> thanks :D
L1195[18:52:41] <Sangar> ds84182, unmanaged as in background? try event listeners / timers.
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L1197[18:53:13] <ds84182> ok
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L1199[18:59:45] <Techokami> it built! Thanks Sangar.
L1200[19:03:25] <Sangar> great, np :)
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L1202[19:26:48] <ShadowKatStudios> o.O I wake up and I'm in #TinkersConstruct?
L1203[19:31:55] <Bizzycola> tinker's runnin' forced channel joining experiments again!
L1204[19:33:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, I see.
L1205[19:34:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I also congratulate them for managing to hyjack my connection
L1206[19:35:33] <Bizzycola> maybe your client auto-responds to invites :p
L1207[19:36:15] <Bizzycola> lets test :p
L1208[19:36:32] <Bizzycola> Hmm maybe not
L1209[19:36:36] <ShadowKatStudios> It toldd me, I'm still hhere.
L1210[20:13:52] <JoshTheEnder> right, i'm off
L1211[20:13:54] <JoshTheEnder> o/
L1212[20:14:06] <Bizzycola> cya
L1213[20:14:17] <JoshTheEnder> .jenkins
L1214[20:14:19] <EnderBot> Latest builds: OpenComputers: #357 | OpenComponents: #37 | OpenComputers-MC1.7: #133 | OpenComponents-MC1.7: #5 | ICBMComponent: #18 | OpenPrinter: #33 | OpenPrinter1.7: #15
L1215[20:14:25] <JoshTheEnder> good, thats still working
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L1220[20:41:53] <gamax92> I must say, making an addon for OC is a lot fucking simpler than CC.
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L1222[20:42:18] <Pyrater> anyone know how to activate a redstone signal under a robot, IE a robot on top of a charger
L1223[20:44:13] <Pyrater> in lua
L1224[20:44:20] <Pyrater> not redstone side value
L1225[20:45:59] <Pyrater> nvm found it setOutput(side: number, value: number): number
L1226[20:52:37] <Pyrater> component.redstone.setOutput(sides.bottom, 100)
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L1230[21:23:13] <ds84182> gamax92: Ok, I'm making code in notepad++, riiight, and currently every time I come back to OC I have to remove the hdd and place it back in in order for the files to update
L1231[21:23:18] <ds84182> is there a better way?
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L1233[21:23:32] <gamax92> set bufferChanges to false, and simply rebooting.
L1234[21:23:51] <gamax92> actually, if its not like a library or something, rebooting won't be necessary
L1235[21:24:03] <Curly_Brace> Can MIDI files be converted to mp3 files?
L1236[21:24:16] <Curly_Brace> Or converted into something that can be converted into mp3?
L1237[21:25:46] <ds84182> Curly_Brace: Yesish. You have to play them on your computer and record the audio via Stereo Downmix
L1238[21:25:51] <ds84182> Curly_Brace: What OS?
L1239[21:26:07] <Curly_Brace> Windows 8
L1240[21:26:23] <ds84182> 1 second
L1241[21:26:28] <gamax92> ds84182: or you use a midi player capable of making it directly into a file.
L1242[21:26:57] <ds84182> gamax92: Then why don't you suggest one
L1243[21:27:00] <Curly_Brace> This Minecraft World is taking forever to load. I shouldn't have set the Noise Scales to such bizzar numbers.
L1244[21:28:25] <ds84182> Curly_Brace: http://audacity.googlecode.com/files/audacity-win-2.0.5.exe
L1245[21:28:39] <ds84182> Install that program, it's audio editing software
L1246[21:28:51] <ds84182> it will allow you to record the audio from your speakers
L1247[21:29:22] <Curly_Brace> Is there a way to simply CONVERT the file rather than having to record it?
L1248[21:29:26] <Curly_Brace> Or is that impossible?
L1249[21:29:35] <ds84182> gamax92: ^
L1250[21:29:49] <gamax92> Curly_Brace: well, I use SynthFont.
L1251[21:30:09] <gamax92> I give it my midi and a set of instruments, renders to file.
L1252[21:31:39] <Curly_Brace> Because I juts got a program
L1253[21:31:44] <Curly_Brace> and it outputs .org
L1254[21:31:52] <Curly_Brace> which, from what I know, can be converted to MIDI
L1255[21:32:05] <Curly_Brace> which is a more popular file
L1256[21:32:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Y'know what's brain damaged? Having large redirect pages. Try getting a file, and then it gives you a redirect page bigger than the file! >:O
L1257[21:32:57] <gamax92> Curly_Brace: oh, but Cave Story has its own instuments and probably won't sound the same as a midi
L1258[21:33:16] <Curly_Brace> This is arguably the oddest thing I have ever experienced in a program, ever.
L1259[21:33:23] <gamax92> the .org files?
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L1261[21:33:33] <Curly_Brace> This music creator has a list of insturments
L1262[21:33:36] <Curly_Brace> at the very end
L1263[21:33:38] <Curly_Brace> is a cat
L1264[21:33:39] <Curly_Brace> like
L1265[21:33:41] <Curly_Brace> "meow"
L1266[21:33:44] <Curly_Brace> cat
L1267[21:34:13] <Curly_Brace> "oh, but Cave Story has its own instuments and probably won't sound the same as a midi"
L1268[21:34:24] <Curly_Brace> Not a real life instrument =/= a legitimate instrument
L1269[21:34:40] <gamax92> Erm, i don't follow.
L1270[21:34:44] <Curly_Brace> I worded that terribly
L1271[21:35:00] <Curly_Brace> In Cave Story, a lot of the music (a lot, not all
L1272[21:35:02] <Curly_Brace> damnit
L1273[21:35:11] <Curly_Brace> is made with "synthesized" instruments.
L1274[21:35:35] <Curly_Brace> It's essentially a keyboard with sounds that normal keyboards can't make. Or any other instruments can make.
L1275[21:35:52] <gamax92> look i know what synthesized instruments are
L1276[21:35:59] <gamax92> where are you going with this conversation
L1277[21:37:25] <Curly_Brace> bah
L1278[21:37:31] <Curly_Brace> I'll find a way to mkae these mp3
L1279[21:37:40] <Curly_Brace> Google is my friend
L1280[21:37:49] <gamax92> ds84182: :<
L1281[21:37:51] <Curly_Brace> but only after I finish the song
L1282[21:38:14] <gamax92> Curly_Brace: did you not understand what i meant by the different instruments?
L1283[21:38:41] <Porygon> I have an idea
L1284[21:38:41] <gamax92> MIDI for example has no instrument for "meow"
L1285[21:38:53] <ds84182> i wonder how much windows will scream if I disabled and reenabled my graphics card
L1286[21:40:09] <Porygon> in term.write, the wrap argument should be a number instead of a boolean so it wraps after a number of characters (-1 for no, 0 for yes, >0 for a setting)
L1287[21:40:23] <Porygon> maybe
L1288[21:40:54] <ds84182> "Disabling this device may stop it from functioning" Isn't that the point, windows
L1289[21:41:03] <Porygon> lol
L1290[21:42:27] <ds84182> And that's how you clear graphics card memory
L1291[21:43:51] <gamax92> "par8 is loudness, all pars passed to minecraftInstance.sndManager.playSound
L1292[21:43:51] <gamax92> "
L1293[21:43:56] <gamax92> gee thanks forge , how descriptive
L1294[21:44:14] <ds84182> gamax92: yes, vary
L1295[21:44:31] <gamax92> But seriously, how do i use worldObj.playSound
L1296[21:45:18] <ds84182> dunno
L1297[21:47:23] <gamax92> sndManager.playSound tells me volume, pitch, but worldObj.playSound has three arguments ...
L1298[21:50:08] <ds84182> yay, delete works
L1299[21:50:10] <ds84182> *remove
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L1301[21:54:13] <ds84182> the only other problem with tdfs is that if you break it, you have to reformat the whole disk
L1302[21:59:16] <dangranos> .-.
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L1304[22:15:29] * ShadowKatStudios considers writing a block oriented tape operating system
L1305[22:15:59] <ShadowKatStudios> (Then again, I may as well write a FORTH system that stores it's own source code...)
L1306[22:17:23] <ds84182> gamax92: You use wabitoe to convert your music for tape drives, riiiiight
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L1308[22:24:08] <ds84182> ShadowKatStudios: YOU DON'T WANT TO
L1309[22:24:20] <ds84182> Tapes, in my opinion, are hard to manage
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L1314[22:49:06] * ShadowKatStudios considers using emit reversed as the function name for the function that inputs a key, but realises that emit reversed is time.
L1315[22:50:18] <ds84182> emitTime()
L1316[22:52:32] <ShadowKatStudios> KEY is what I'm looking for :D
L1317[22:53:48] <ShadowKatStudios> What's with the wacky keycodes returned by keyDown?
L1318[22:54:34] <Porygon> yeah
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L1321[22:59:25] <SpiritedDusty> anyone have any ideas for anything to code in OC?
L1322[23:00:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Write an emulator for your favourite 8 or 16-bit computer :D
L1323[23:00:59] <SpiritedDusty> meh... would anyone be interested in a package manager?
L1324[23:01:01] <ds84182> SpiritedDusty: What about a filesystem for tape drives
L1325[23:01:04] <ds84182> ;)
L1326[23:01:07] <Porygon> something to seperate sections of screens and treat each section differently (also known as windows)
L1327[23:01:21] <SpiritedDusty> hm..
L1328[23:01:32] <SpiritedDusty> filesystem for tape drives... It'll probably be very inefficient though lol
L1329[23:01:33] <Porygon> hm, with repos as in git repos?
L1330[23:01:40] <SpiritedDusty> yeah
L1331[23:01:44] <ds84182> SpiritedDusty: Trust me, it is
L1332[23:02:06] <ds84182> I've tried it, it's kinda hard to do
L1333[23:02:06] <ds84182> https://github.com/ds84182/ds84182-Programs/blob/master/tdfs.lua
L1334[23:02:13] <Porygon> I'd use that
L1335[23:02:17] <Porygon> yeah
L1336[23:02:21] <ds84182> gamax92 attempted to port FAT12
L1337[23:02:32] <SpiritedDusty> looks complacated as shit
L1338[23:02:37] <ds84182> it is
L1339[23:02:56] <ds84182> Over the span of about 2 days
L1340[23:03:17] <ds84182> It works, and that's all that matters at this point
L1341[23:03:29] <dangranos> hmm
L1342[23:03:39] <SpiritedDusty> no such need for efficiency
L1343[23:04:00] <ShadowKatStudios> FAT12? As in, max filesize 4k?
L1344[23:04:06] <dangranos> >_<
L1345[23:04:14] <ds84182> ShadowKatStudios: Yep
L1346[23:04:17] <SpiritedDusty> someone port like ext4 to OC xD
L1347[23:04:24] <dangranos> ...
L1348[23:04:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh.
L1349[23:04:42] <ShadowKatStudios> I couldn't store a music file on it xD
L1350[23:04:48] <ds84182> SpiritedDusty: Do you want people to die, because thats how you make people die
L1351[23:05:23] <SpiritedDusty> lol. yes that's my evil plan. to kill people by making them write complicated stuffs
L1352[23:05:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, I could store a dfpwm file on it, but it'd be at max 1 second long.
L1353[23:06:02] <dangranos> lol
L1354[23:06:20] <SpiritedDusty> I remember as_ie stored a pretty long song on tape drive
L1355[23:06:38] <SpiritedDusty> so what do you guys think of having a package manager?
L1356[23:06:41] <ShadowKatStudios> But was it formatted or just raw?
L1357[23:06:49] <SpiritedDusty> SKS, I have no idea
L1358[23:07:10] <ShadowKatStudios> I've stored just under 8M on a tape, but it was raw.
L1359[23:07:52] <SpiritedDusty> I gave up on my OC emulator. got bored :P
L1360[23:08:16] <Porygon> someone should port btrfs to OC because we need to conserve space
L1361[23:08:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Does the tape have to be pre-formatted?
L1362[23:08:46] <SpiritedDusty> looks like we're gonna port HFS+ to OC ._.
L1363[23:09:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh, it has a formatting
L1364[23:09:12] <dangranos> at least nobody will port ntfs
L1365[23:09:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, cool, this looks easy enough to write :P
L1366[23:09:20] <ds84182> ShadowKatStudios: Wait, we are talking about what right now?
L1367[23:09:35] <ShadowKatStudios> dan, if they do, they will be murdered with sporks.
L1368[23:09:44] <ds84182> Internet kinda blanked out there
L1369[23:09:54] <dangranos> btfs on 16 MB XD
L1370[23:09:57] <dangranos> *ntfs
L1371[23:10:14] <SpiritedDusty> hm... since OC is getting support for rewritting the entire ROM, maybe I'll make an OS
L1372[23:10:17] <ShadowKatStudios> tdfs, I think I could write a dirtier version with support for longer files, and maybe supporting directories xD
L1373[23:10:17] <Kenny|AFK> what is btrfs?
L1374[23:10:42] <ds84182> ShadowKatStudios: I have directories >.<
L1375[23:10:48] <dangranos> just mistype
L1376[23:10:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Can I list them?
L1377[23:11:03] <ds84182> yep
L1378[23:11:04] <Porygon> it's the awesome new filesystem destined to replace all linux FSes
L1379[23:11:13] <Porygon> has all sorts of things
L1380[23:11:18] <SpiritedDusty> ds84182, how does your filesystem find files? does it look through everything or does it have an index or...?
L1381[23:11:32] <ds84182> SpiritedDusty: It acts like a linked list
L1382[23:11:47] <ds84182> Each entry has a pointer to the previous and next one
L1383[23:11:53] <Porygon> including compression, COW snapshots, COW other stuiff, I don't really understand it
L1384[23:12:11] <SpiritedDusty> interesting...
L1385[23:12:27] <ds84182> They just connect together in groups, and directories have the pointer to the starting entry
L1386[23:12:37] <ShadowKatStudios> And it scans until it finds the entry for it?
L1387[23:13:11] <ShadowKatStudios> How does it know which blocks are free?
L1388[23:13:59] <Kenny|AFK> because they are empty :P
L1389[23:14:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Also how do I delete stuff from the tape?
L1390[23:14:35] <SpiritedDusty> write 0 to it?
L1391[23:14:38] <Kenny|AFK> magnet?
L1392[23:14:42] <ds84182> ShadowKatStudios: you can mount it
L1393[23:14:50] <ds84182> tdfs mount /directoryhere
L1394[23:15:00] <ds84182> then you can do regular file management on it
L1395[23:15:27] <ds84182> http://puu.sh/8nGeV.png
L1396[23:15:36] <SpiritedDusty> how fast is it?
L1397[23:15:54] <ds84182> You can write a file in about a second
L1398[23:16:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Would it be possible to modify it to support >4k?
L1399[23:16:53] <ds84182> It should support >4k
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L1401[23:17:08] <ds84182> because it just tells the system where the next block is
L1402[23:17:11] <SpiritedDusty> "should"
L1403[23:17:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, I see.
L1404[23:17:19] <ds84182> I haven't tested large files
L1405[23:17:28] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll find some large files xD
L1406[23:18:14] <ShadowKatStudios> So while the tape is mounted I can't use df
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L1408[23:18:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Your tdfs lacks a getLabel function apparently
L1409[23:18:54] <ds84182> I should go add that
L1410[23:19:49] <ShadowKatStudios> 'bad file descriptor' file fireflies, size 913k
L1411[23:20:36] <ds84182> I also need to add things to get used space and total space and stuff
L1412[23:20:58] <ShadowKatStudios> It died at 4523 bytes
L1413[23:21:09] <ds84182> huh
L1414[23:24:05] <ds84182> for me it died at 8240
L1415[23:24:54] <ds84182> I'd have to fix some of the method to allow real file handle stuff
L1416[23:25:08] <ds84182> right now I just use string based handles
L1417[23:27:18] <ds84182> well, I'ma go to bed
L1418[23:27:28] <SpiritedDusty> gnight
L1419[23:27:32] <ds84182> I have Saturday "School" in the morning
L1420[23:27:48] <SpiritedDusty> is it like a detention sort of thing?
L1421[23:30:03] <ShadowKatStudios> So I'm installing SKS-OS onto the tape.
L1422[23:30:09] <ShadowKatStudios> The installer actually takes time to run!
L1423[23:30:43] <SpiritedDusty> like a real computer! :D
L1424[23:31:42] <SpiritedDusty> since we're probably gonna get the ability to make custom roms in game, I feel like making a custom OS with a modular system thingy
L1425[23:32:23] * ShadowKatStudios shall moidfy his bootloader to support tapes
L1426[23:32:35] <ShadowKatStudios> moidfy. Yes.
L1427[23:32:47] <SpiritedDusty> we should work on an OS together *nudge nudge*
L1428[23:33:02] <SpiritedDusty> just take the existing OpenOS and mod it a bunch
L1429[23:33:41] <ShadowKatStudios> I copy the ROM to a filesystem component and put a startup script on it that remounts it to /.
L1430[23:34:10] <SpiritedDusty> SKS, take a look at this https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/172
L1431[23:34:29] <SpiritedDusty> we're going to be able to bypass the ROM and make code run directly after the kernel.lua
L1432[23:34:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes, yes, NVRAM >:D
L1433[23:35:17] <dangranos> hmm
L1434[23:37:03] *** ds84182 is now known as dsAway
L1435[23:37:04] <ShadowKatStudios> This is a problem.
L1436[23:37:13] <SpiritedDusty> *dramatic music plays*
L1437[23:37:31] <ShadowKatStudios> How do I mount a tape to root without like... running a program to mount it?
L1438[23:37:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I could modify the program to make it suitable as an autorun?
L1439[23:38:00] <SpiritedDusty> we're gonna get support to run a custom ROM from in game
L1440[23:38:18] <dangranos> yat
L1441[23:38:20] <dangranos> &yay
L1442[23:38:22] <dangranos> >_<
L1443[23:38:41] <ShadowKatStudios> But, like, now.
L1444[23:38:46] <SpiritedDusty> so I was thinking of modding the OpenOS to support things like kernel extensions
L1445[23:38:54] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm gonna have to make something ugly and bootstrapish...
L1446[23:40:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Can I mount /tmp without having anything mounted to /?
L1447[23:41:02] <SpiritedDusty> you can mount anything wherever you want it
L1448[23:41:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, good.
L1449[23:42:36] <ShadowKatStudios> So my installer just jumped from 1930 bytes to
L1450[23:42:38] <ShadowKatStudios> ...
L1451[23:42:50] <ShadowKatStudios> 20686
L1452[23:43:02] <SpiritedDusty> lol
L1453[23:43:42] <ShadowKatStudios> I keep all the neccesary files in a single file.
L1454[23:44:13] <SpiritedDusty> maybe I could make some kind of bundling system. so you can package multuple files into 1 executable
L1455[23:44:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Make compressed archives :D
L1456[23:45:56] <ShadowKatStudios> What API has the addresses of the /tmp and /rom filesystem?
L1457[23:46:06] <SpiritedDusty> computer
L1458[23:46:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay, thanks :D
L1459[23:48:40] <ShadowKatStudios> I think I'll be nice to the filesystem and write to it in 1024 byte blocks for larger files.
L1460[23:48:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll also modify the default file manipulation programs to do the same.
L1461[23:52:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Wait, so, if I unmount / it doesn't unmount the rest of everything?
L1462[23:52:40] <dangranos> i dont think so
L1463[23:53:54] <SpiritedDusty> I'm still tyring to figure out what to code lol
L1464[23:54:07] <dangranos> i am trying to make fs .-.
L1465[23:54:27] <dangranos> *write
L1466[23:54:36] <dangranos> .-.
L1467[23:55:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm...
L1468[23:55:12] <ShadowKatStudios> This wouldn't end well if I tried to boot it anyway.
L1469[23:55:31] <ShadowKatStudios> It didn't copy the filesystem API properly
L1470[23:56:17] <ShadowKatStudios> I imagine it didn't copy most of the user programs properly either,
L1471[23:56:41] <ShadowKatStudios> I think I need to write an OS from the ground up and try some new stuff.
L1472[23:57:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Like saving RAM by dividing APIs into parts in directories, so you can load filesystem.mount
L1473[23:59:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Hah, I just listened for a solid minute to static and beeping, that's what a filesystem sounds like.
L1474[23:59:51] <SpiritedDusty> ooo imagine like RAM compression? so like strings and things can get compressed and that'll save some memory
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