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L1[00:00:43] <Dashkal> bleh, the wiki the docs are on is offline
L2[00:01:17] <Dashkal> Bleh. If worst comes to worst I could just do it myself, but I don't really want to code for MC anymore. Playing/Adminning/Coding <-- too much
L3[00:01:40] <Dashkal> The odd lua script to monitor my TE power cells is fine. Writing full mods... consumes more time than I have
L4[00:02:44] <asie> the porting marathon for 1.7.2 burned me out completely
L5[00:02:56] <asie> especially as after looking at what's going on i plan to stay on 1.6.4 and backport mods if needed
L6[00:03:05] <asie> i also plan to backport AE2 to 1.6.4, unofficially
L7[00:03:08] <asie> using the magic of coremods and binpatches
L8[00:03:46] <Dashkal> in unrelated news, what is this besh.lua *digs in*
L9[00:04:23] <Dashkal> pipes and redirects? Black magic it seems
L10[00:05:07] <Dashkal> Yep. coroutines and yields stuffed into the api
L11[00:05:36] <progwml6|L> why would you ever want to backport?
L12[00:05:48] <Dashkal> Very strong dislike for 1.7
L13[00:06:18] <asie> progwml6|L: 1.7.2 is a buggy mess
L14[00:06:25] <asie> and 1.8 is going to take a long while
L15[00:06:38] <progwml6|L> and 1.6.4 is no longer getting touched
L16[00:06:47] <asie> yes it is, by a rather large amount of mod developers
L17[00:06:53] <progwml6|L> not by forge
L18[00:06:56] <progwml6|L> which is all that matters
L19[00:06:59] <asie> nah
L20[00:07:01] <asie> forge is FOSS
L21[00:07:03] <progwml6|L> there are some nasty lingering bugs
L22[00:07:06] <asie> not getting touched is a non-issue
L23[00:07:20] <asie> it's worse with mods like AE2
L24[00:07:20] <Dashkal> I'm really not interested it venturing into forked-forge land
L25[00:07:24] <progwml6|L> it's an issue as most ppl will not use unofficial versions of it
L26[00:07:41] <asie> i don't really care -- i'm developing for my own servers, usually
L27[00:07:54] <progwml6|L> and there's a reason ae2 will never be in 1.6.4 the api is different
L28[00:07:57] <SpiritedDusty> Dashkal, what do you mean by "coroutines and yields stuffed into the api"?
L29[00:08:05] <progwml6|L> you will end up w/ api conflicts easily
L30[00:08:12] <asie> i can solve this like IC2 Classic did
L31[00:08:33] <Dashkal> SpiritedDusty: I see that besh messes with the stream handles that the programs in the pipe gets and adds yields. Given that there's a yield, there's a coroutine to run in.
L32[00:08:34] <progwml6|L> not when you are binpatching the other version
L33[00:08:47] <progwml6|L> changing the packages will be one hell of a messy patch
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L35[00:08:57] <Dashkal> Which of course is how it has to be. No other way to get a pipe working in a single thread.
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L37[00:09:13] <asie> progwml6|L: don't forget the modid is different
L38[00:09:23] <SpiritedDusty> whats wrong with using yields?
L39[00:09:23] <asie> and so are most of the API class names
L40[00:09:35] <Dashkal> I never said it was wrong. "Black magic" as in somewhat arcane, not as in evil.
L41[00:09:53] <progwml6|L> all it takes is a single method to mess up the whole thing
L42[00:10:02] <asie> of course, but as i said, i'm not too worried
L43[00:10:10] <Dashkal> Just making things yield doesn't always have sane effects. Depends on how well the use of those streams conforms to the expectations of besh.
L44[00:10:13] <asie> bugs will be fixed as i encounter them
L45[00:10:21] <progwml6|L> that workload doesn't seem worth it
L46[00:10:31] <asie> a far higher workload would involve porting MCP to 1.7.9
L47[00:10:32] <SpiritedDusty> I don't see how using coroutines is a bad thing. It's a core part of Lua
L48[00:10:34] <progwml6|L> easier to just fix the handful of 1.7 bugs
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L50[00:10:46] <Dashkal> "I never said it was wrong. "Black magic" as in somewhat arcane, not as in evil."
L51[00:10:50] <asie> and i heard lex say he's not going to do that as why duplicate effort
L52[00:11:02] <progwml6|L> i wouldn't bother until mojang can get a stable version for a week
L53[00:11:07] <asie> 1.8?
L54[00:11:07] <progwml6|L> which is lex's issue
L55[00:11:08] <asie> :)
L56[00:11:16] <progwml6|L> 1.8 is gonna b worse
L57[00:11:19] <asie> yes
L58[00:11:24] <asie> that's why i want to stay at 1.6.4 for the foreseeable future
L59[00:11:30] <asie> it's the stablest version Mojang released for a long time
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L61[00:11:44] <asie> and i want to stay at it until they finish breaking the mod API
L62[00:11:49] <progwml6|L> i prefer not having to deal w/ ID's
L63[00:11:56] <SpiritedDusty> Dashkal, whats one example of using coroutine that will result in "insane" effects?
L64[00:11:59] <asie> i use IDs in my 1.7 code very often
L65[00:12:01] <Dashkal> The end of the ID conflict is something that fills me with joy
L66[00:12:06] <asie> to save valuable bytes of space in tileentity data
L67[00:12:12] <progwml6|L> never a good idea to use ID's in 1.7
L68[00:12:16] <asie> progwml6|L: there is one
L69[00:12:22] <asie> if you have a microblock, you aren't going to store the parts of it as block names
L70[00:12:25] <Dashkal> SpiritedDusty: I really can't come up with a concrete example at 11pm.
L71[00:12:35] <Dashkal> I must repeat. arcane does not imply evil.
L72[00:12:44] <progwml6|L> the code that handle's re-assignment will blow that up
L73[00:12:44] <ping> dammit
L74[00:12:45] <asie> or if you have a diamond chest, storing 110 strings will take a lot of space
L75[00:12:47] <progwml6|L> sooo quickly
L76[00:12:47] <ping> internet
L77[00:12:56] <ping> anyway
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L79[00:12:57] <ping> http://puu.sh/8bZT8.png
L80[00:12:58] <SpiritedDusty> Dashkal oh, we're in the same timezone
L81[00:12:59] <asie> sorry, but i don't want megabyte-big region files
L82[00:13:05] <asie> megabytes-big*
L83[00:13:11] <asie> just because everything is now strings
L84[00:13:29] <progwml6|L> if the ID's are internal that's one thing
L85[00:13:30] <Dashkal> I'm curious how it handles cases like the second program in the pipe not consuming all of the input stream and such.
L86[00:13:44] <Dashkal> Though I'm getting tired enough that I can't really read all the code. Will pick it back up later.
L87[00:13:47] <progwml6|L> however... mc's ID's will run into problems
L88[00:13:48] <asie> fun fact: EnderNet never used IDs
L89[00:13:59] <asie> and it's a 1.6.4-only mod
L90[00:14:14] <asie> you don't need 1.7 to not use IDs and you don't need 1.6.4 to use IDs
L91[00:14:30] <Dashkal> You use IDs or you aren't in the block array. You use IDs or you aren't in the item array. Anything else is just obfuscating this detail.
L92[00:14:50] <progwml6|L> in 1.6.4 i have trouble believing that
L93[00:14:50] <asie> all 1.7 did is put an abstraction layer on top
L94[00:14:55] <asie> progwml6|L: EnderNet /worked/
L95[00:15:00] <asie> FTB included it for a while, so did Resonant Rise
L96[00:15:09] <asie> and it worked across different packs with different Ids
L97[00:15:26] <asie> it did remapping between servers on the fly -- that wouldn't be possible if i just used IDs
L98[00:15:30] <Dashkal> World data stores by ID. So even this will be susceptable to id conflicts.
L99[00:15:37] <asie> yes, items with NBT were carefully scanned
L100[00:15:42] <asie> and code was added to patch IDs within those eventually
L101[00:15:42] <Dashkal> It may manage to use exactly one id, but it's still a thing
L102[00:16:11] <progwml6|L> i've seen a few to many issues from people relying on ID's internally
L103[00:16:19] <Dashkal> Unless of course it went the route of staying out of the world array.
L104[00:16:25] <progwml6|L> when dealing w/ swapping between ssp & smp
L105[00:16:31] <asie> i can see a few too many issues from thousands of blocks relying on storing the ID as a string
L106[00:16:32] <asie> like lag
L107[00:16:50] <progwml6|L> the object's exist already
L108[00:16:56] <progwml6|L> so do the strings
L109[00:17:09] <asie> yes, but loading, parsing, comparing and finding the ID for a string
L110[00:17:10] <Dashkal> In any event. You're pretty much confirmed as staying in 1.6. Given you're going to make a hacked up frakenstien of a backport mess, I think I'm going to just stay far far away from your method
L111[00:17:15] <asie> takes a lot longer than just getting IDs
L112[00:17:19] <SpiritedDusty> asie, do you have a program for converting mp3 files into files that are compatible with computronics?
L113[00:17:27] <asie> SpiritedDusty: WAV files. http://mc.shinonome.ch - lurk the wiki around
L114[00:17:42] <asie> Wabbitoe is in the Tape Drive wiki section, it converts WAVs to Computronics
L115[00:17:59] <SpiritedDusty> thanks
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L117[00:19:36] <Vexatos> asie: Question: COULD you add some kind on distanceUp and distanceDown commands to the camera robot?
L118[00:19:41] <Vexatos> I REALLY need that :|
L119[00:19:41] <asie> Vexatos: Probably.
L120[00:19:47] <asie> What MC version?
L121[00:19:52] <Vexatos> 1.6
L122[00:19:56] <asie> one second
L123[00:20:06] <Vexatos> (Again, wanting to scan a height map and passing that over to a hologram)
L124[00:21:44] <asie> Vexatos: compiling
L125[00:21:59] <ping> bed
L126[00:21:59] <Vexatos> I already guessed it wouldn't be hard :D
L127[00:22:03] <Vexatos> Since the code is already there
L128[00:22:05] <Vexatos> :P
L129[00:22:06] <ping> added 2048 to openprograms
L130[00:22:11] <Vexatos> What
L131[00:22:12] <Vexatos> o.O
L132[00:22:13] <ShadowKatStudios> SpiritedDusty: I'm aware of a converter using ffmpeg for Windows.
L133[00:22:14] <Vexatos> Nice
L134[00:22:34] <SpiritedDusty> SKS, link?
L135[00:22:36] <ping> not complete, just text
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L138[00:23:09] <Vexatos> Ass seen at http://openprograms.github.io/
L139[00:23:19] <Vexatos> (Thanks ping for the website :3)
L140[00:23:22] <SpiritedDusty> "Ass" een on TV
L141[00:23:28] <Vexatos> Yesss
L142[00:23:44] <asie> Vexatos: http://files.shinonome.ch/mods/Computronics/Computronics-0.3.2.jar
L143[00:23:55] <Vexatos> SssspiritedDusssty, what'ssss on with the OC Emulator? Sssss
L144[00:24:03] <Vexatos> \o/
L145[00:25:32] <Dashkal> Odd. This computer stopped accepting keyboard input. It's definitely still running though...
L146[00:25:43] <Dashkal> It's connected to IRC and showing activity
L147[00:26:45] <Dashkal> Interesting. Ok, so I managed to get keyboard input exclusively grabbed by a remote terminal
L148[00:26:54] <Dashkal> The remote terminal doesn't get the screen, but does provide the input
L149[00:33:00] <Vexatos> asie
L150[00:33:07] <asie> ?
L151[00:33:09] <Vexatos> distanceDown() does not seem to work properly
L152[00:33:20] <asie> the image might be rotated
L153[00:33:22] <SpiritedDusty> Vexatos, oh the oc emulator… well… I had to rewrite it
L154[00:33:29] <asie> or mirrored, or flipped
L155[00:33:36] <Vexatos> I know
L156[00:33:38] <Vexatos> But watch
L157[00:33:46] <Vexatos> Oh, wait a second
L158[00:34:24] <SpiritedDusty> the emulator was freezing up the browser so I had to rewrite it with multithreading
L159[00:36:01] <Vexatos> asie: This
L160[00:36:02] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/8c0Kp/61cd18acb2.png
L161[00:36:06] <Vexatos> Is the map of this
L162[00:36:09] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/8c0No/509e82df15.png
L163[00:36:41] * SpiritedDusty feels terribly ignored by Vexatos
L164[00:36:47] <Vexatos> I read >__>
L165[00:36:53] <SpiritedDusty> xD
L166[00:36:56] <asie> Vexatos: where is the robot while scanning though?
L167[00:37:03] <Vexatos> What am I supposed to answer, SpiritedDusty?
L168[00:37:11] <SpiritedDusty> a reaction would be nice
L169[00:37:15] <Vexatos> asie, it hovers over the whole structure
L170[00:37:17] <SpiritedDusty> even a simple "okay"
L171[00:37:22] <Vexatos> does distanceDown() at each position
L172[00:37:38] <Vexatos> And writes that to the screen like in your CC example program
L173[00:37:47] <Vexatos> SpiritedDusty: okay
L174[00:37:52] <SpiritedDusty> lol
L175[00:38:11] <asie> Vexatos: i don't really know,sorry, i'll look into it later
L176[00:38:24] <Vexatos> Ok
L177[00:38:38] <SpiritedDusty> sorry for being so slow on the emulator :P
L178[00:41:15] <Ir7_o> so many voiced users
L179[00:42:12] <SpiritedDusty> ikr? that's what I said when I came in a few days ago
L180[00:42:40] <SpiritedDusty> at least we don't have like 10 OPs
L181[00:42:46] <Ir7_o> ahgahha :3
L182[00:42:59] <Ir7_o> just the 3 and Kenny
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L192[01:17:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Sorry SpiritedDusty, forgot this was open, I'll look it up in my logs
L193[01:18:46] <Ir7_o> http://prntscr.com/3arg1q can anyone explain?
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L195[01:20:03] <ShadowKatStudios> I have located the link! Not sure if it's dead but...
L196[01:22:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I should work on SINE againn.
L197[01:25:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Does the first or second read come first in game[io.read()][1]=io.read() ?
L198[01:27:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Eh, doesn't matter
L199[01:29:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay, I can now add nodes with my writer program.
L200[01:31:44] <Dashkal> Hmm, that's rather difficult to play around with. Was trying to poke at the computer/computer interface. Problem is you can't really get a screen attached when two computers are side-by-side (they both grab it)
L201[01:32:20] <Dashkal> Well, that works. (yanked a video card)
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L205[01:39:32] * Dashkal discovers gpu.setResolution()
L206[01:39:43] <Dashkal> Oh that makes me happy. I can make things fit better on monitors
L207[01:40:05] <ShadowKatStudios> I need to run my computers at 80x25 so the text is readable, otherwise it's tiny.
L208[01:40:27] <Dashkal> 45x25 Fits well in one block
L209[01:40:36] <lclc98> i always need to change my resolution or else the games crashes
L210[01:41:04] <ShadowKatStudios> And by extension on 2x2, 3x3 etc.?
L211[01:42:05] <Dashkal> Well, it's not quite 2:1 to make it fit
L212[01:43:03] <Dashkal> 9:5 seems to be pretty close to the ideal
L213[01:44:23] <Dashkal> Yeah. 89x50 is about as good as I can get that border
L214[01:46:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, cool stuff.
L215[01:47:07] * ShadowKatStudios notes this information
L216[01:47:26] <ShadowKatStudios> I usually use my computers over a network connection to my main computer in VT102 emulation mode
L217[01:47:46] <Dashkal> There a remote login app I don't yet know of?
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L219[01:49:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm doing some R&D on it, but it only supports one user so far
L220[01:49:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, either that or cooperative multitasking.
L221[01:50:06] <Dashkal> *nods* fair enough
L222[01:50:29] <Dashkal> I need to design my workshop "protocol". Conventions for querying for energy/fluid/item status and the like
L223[01:50:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Due to the fact there's a lack of debug.sethook in the exposed APIs...
L224[01:51:41] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm taking a break from SKS-OS dev though, and working on an interactive novel engine I call SINE.
L225[01:53:38] <ShadowKatStudios> The engine itself is mostly complete, however the program for writing them is incomplete.
L226[01:55:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Hencewhat I'm doing now.
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L228[01:58:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmmm... I could probably squeeze more RAM out of the display...
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L230[02:07:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Writer is now "useful" if not "painless"
L231[02:09:31] <ShadowKatStudios> It can now add nodes and connections.
L232[02:09:47] <ShadowKatStudios> It needs to be abel to remove them too..
L233[02:10:17] <Dashkal> hmm.. I wonder if my lua is up to writing a quick and dirty rcp program
L234[02:10:37] <Dashkal> Would be a good excercise for getting into practice
L235[02:12:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Remote control?
L236[02:12:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I can offer you my SSTV (Slow-scan terminal viewer) program
L237[02:20:21] <Dashkal> Well, part of this is an excercise simply to learn wtf I'm doing again. I've been out of Lua since I dabbled with WoW UI coding
L238[02:21:52] <Bizzycola> This guy was trying to take a video of himself as a train passed, and was close enough that a bit of metal on the train would have hit him. So what does the engineer do? he sticks his foot out of the train..and kicks the guy in the head :p
L239[02:22:16] <Dashkal> Awesome on the part of the engineer. Dude is still lucky he didn't have his neck snapped
L240[02:22:42] <Bizzycola> He probably had much better luck with the engineers boot then he would have had with a piece of train :p
L241[02:22:57] <Dashkal> No doubt
L242[02:23:00] <Bizzycola> I don't know why anyone'd be stupid enough to stand that close
L243[02:23:23] <Bizzycola> If you are close enough to get your head kicked by the engineer, you are WAY to close :p
L244[02:25:32] <ShadowKatStudios> It'd hurt either way, how fast was it moving?
L245[02:25:36] <Dashkal> Yeah, I'd definitely like an rcp. Just so much more slick than carrying floppies around
L246[02:25:47] <Dashkal> Oh well, it's far too late for me to be up
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L249[02:27:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Hah, nonsense
L250[02:27:59] <Bizzycola> Well, now that I'm doing destroying my irc client
L251[02:28:05] <Bizzycola> I should work on my midi thingie :p
L252[02:30:09] <Bizzycola> http://pastebin.com/3CSaUf1T --if anyone can be bothered converting the code at the very bottom of this to OC, then I will make it output OC code as well for those who wish to use immibis speakers with that instead :p
L253[02:30:37] * ShadowKatStudios is the person that stays up for 2 days straight (strait?)
L254[02:30:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh nice, tapes?
L255[02:30:38] <Bizzycola> probably could make the code better if you wanted too, it's like 5 minute quick player :p
L256[02:30:53] <Bizzycola> It converts midi files to code that plays on immibis peripherals speakers
L257[02:31:11] <Bizzycola> Sort of anyway, little buggy with the timing, some songs play too quickly atm :p
L258[02:31:18] <Bizzycola> but the one in that pastebin is fine It hink
L259[02:31:37] <Bizzycola> That is the output from my converter
L260[02:31:43] <ShadowKatStudios> The FORTH programs on those things seems interesting
L261[02:31:43] * ShadowKatStudios wonders about outputting text in morse code.
L262[02:32:04] <Bizzycola> Yea I was gonna use that originally but couldn't be bothered figuring it out :p
L263[02:32:25] <Bizzycola> immibis had an example program with a bunch of songs, I wonder if he had his own converter
L264[02:36:39] <dangranos> sks, what are you writing btw?
L265[02:42:08] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm working on a visual novel/text adventure engine
L266[02:42:56] <ShadowKatStudios> While screaming at the tv something to the effect of "Why the **** do people care where the royal family is and what they're doing!?"
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L271[02:51:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Yaay, the engine works
L272[02:51:23] <ShadowKatStudios> I just have to do a tiny bit more code for end of game etc.
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L274[02:54:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh. My. *. There's a game called "I am an insane rogue AI"! :D
L275[02:57:30] <dangranos> isnt it a flash game?
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L277[02:59:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Seems so, it's on Kngregate
L278[02:59:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Kongregate*
L279[02:59:08] <ShadowKatStudios> I used to play Starfighter: Disputed galaxy on there.
L280[02:59:55] <ShadowKatStudios> It'd be nice if it would load rather than timing out on my connection -_-
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L284[03:13:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Aaargh, I crashed the display driver /again/
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L287[03:19:06] * ShadowKatStudios stabs his ISP
L288[03:22:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Arrgh, do we have a working OC emulator yet?
L289[03:28:07] <Vexatos> SpiritedDusty ^
L290[03:28:10] <Vexatos> :3
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L293[03:43:00] <dangranos> .-.
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L302[04:01:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Wow, no torrents, no PDFs, even though there is a google books version.
L303[04:02:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm... It's set in Japan, maybe I should search in Japanese..?
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L305[04:16:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm... How hard would it be to have an image that is also an executable file?
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L309[04:36:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Argh, I want to write, but I can't decide on a setting :(
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L311[04:39:31] <ShadowKatStudios> I can't even decide on /when/ beyond after 1950 and before the invention of functioning quantum computers?
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L316[05:01:28] * JoshTheEnder merges from the shadows
L317[05:01:33] <JoshTheEnder> *emerges
L318[05:01:36] <JoshTheEnder> ¬_¬
L319[05:01:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Merges?
L320[05:02:24] <ShadowKatStudios> As a cat of shadow, there will be no merging with me.
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L324[05:16:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Guys, help me out here, what setting do I want for my story: space ship, academic of some description, nameless computer company or school holidays?
L325[05:17:40] * Kenny|Sleeping arsioes from the dead
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L327[05:17:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Also what year? ~1985 to ~2040?
L328[05:18:25] <lclc98> hey Kenny
L329[05:19:04] <ShadowKatStudios> No merging from you Kenny? Thank *
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L331[05:25:35] <JoshTheEnder> no, Kenny arsioes... :P
L332[05:25:48] <JoshTheEnder> \o/ for inability to spell
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L338[05:36:34] <Kenny> you would to if yuo came on 5 minutes after yoiu woke up
L339[05:37:09] <ShadowKatStudios> What's waking up?
L340[05:37:19] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny, that's what i did
L341[05:37:46] <Kenny> yeah but you about a 1/3 of my age :P
L342[05:39:00] <JoshTheEnder> doesnt mean my sleeping pattern isnt entirely fucked for someone of this timezone
L343[05:39:34] <Kenny> i'm still recovering from an all nighter 2 ays ago
L344[05:39:41] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L345[05:45:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I've had 5 hours of sleep in the last 72 hours.
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L347[05:47:29] <Bladeshadow> Good timezone everyone
L348[05:47:43] <Bladeshadow> got a little question
L349[05:47:54] <Bizzycola> ok
L350[05:48:01] <Bizzycola> sup? :p
L351[05:48:33] <Gopher> morning, bizzy
L352[05:48:49] <Bladeshadow> i want to do a movement API, but if i load the movement.lua via local move = require("movement") it gives me an error when i try to acess the functions inside
L353[05:48:53] <Bizzycola> hia goph(e)r
L354[05:49:08] <Bizzycola> show us movement.lua
L355[05:49:13] <Bizzycola> packages have to be setup a specific way
L356[05:49:13] <Vexatos> Bladeshadow: Are both files in the same folder?
L357[05:49:14] <Gopher> Have you tried loading it from a lua prompt?
L358[05:49:23] <Bladeshadow> can i somehow upload it like pastebin put?
L359[05:49:28] <Vexatos> Yep
L360[05:49:30] <Gopher> errors are suppressed when loading normally, at a lua prompt you'll see the error
L361[05:49:33] <Vexatos> pastebin put <name>
L362[05:50:35] <Vexatos> Gopher: I once had a strange thing in my command bar
L363[05:50:39] <Vexatos> After installing Lua 5.2
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L365[05:50:58] <Vexatos> PATH of cmd was set to that lua RE
L366[05:51:05] <Vexatos> So it replaced System32 :P
L367[05:51:13] <Vexatos> And I was wondering why my commands didn't work
L368[05:51:25] <Bizzycola> lol
L369[05:51:35] <Bladeshadow> it might be full of fails and stuff but bare with me :p pastebin.com/cjNyJDDE
L370[05:51:39] <Vexatos> Did that happen to any of you?
L371[05:51:53] <Bizzycola> nope
L372[05:52:00] <Vexatos> Bladeshadow, are both files in the same folder?
L373[05:52:05] <Bladeshadow> jes they are
L374[05:52:06] <Gopher> Bladeshadow, what error are you actually getting when you call functions on it? attempt to index nil, or something like?
L375[05:52:10] <Bladeshadow> both on the same floppy
L376[05:52:41] <Bizzycola> To do something = require("myfile") then something.myfunction, you need to set it up as a package
L377[05:52:52] <Bizzycola> if you require that one, just call the functions directly
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L379[05:53:07] <Bizzycola> rather then move.something(), just something()
L380[05:53:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Grrr, I need to see if I can fix mmy router.
L381[05:53:24] <Bladeshadow> i get: Attempt to index upvalue 'move' (a boolean value)
L382[05:53:41] <Bizzycola> http://lua-users.org/wiki/ModulesTutorial
L383[05:53:42] <Bizzycola> read this
L384[05:53:53] <Bizzycola> that's how you are supposed to do it
L385[05:54:14] <Bizzycola> basically create a table, put functions in the table, return the table
L386[05:55:21] <Bladeshadow> hmmm
L387[05:55:57] <Bladeshadow> seems easy lets try that out
L388[05:56:24] <Bladeshadow> BTW if anyone detects messed up code by me pls note that :) im happy for any help i can get with LUA
L389[05:57:19] <Vexatos> And this channel is (mostly) happy to help :)
L390[05:58:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Bladeshadow: For one thing, it's Lua, not LUA, because you asked for any help. :P
L391[05:58:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, I'm telling you this because you asked for any help
L392[06:00:14] <Bladeshadow> And today for you sinks: Captain Niveau!
L393[06:02:34] <ShadowKatStudios> ... I suspect there are references I don't understand or similar. Anyway...
L394[06:02:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Guys, help me out here, what setting do I want for my story: space ship, academic of some description, nameless computer company or school holidays? Also what year? ~1985 to ~2040?
L395[06:06:54] <ShadowKatStudios> :( Fine, don't help me.
L396[06:09:27] <Vexatos> My suggestion
L397[06:09:37] <Vexatos> computer company in 1957
L398[06:09:45] <Vexatos> (2040, then, actually)
L399[06:10:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm... Futuristic computer company, sounds like it could result in something cool.
L400[06:14:28] * ShadowKatStudios goes to find a writing tool that isn't M$ and runs on Windows
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L402[06:15:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Ehh, NP++ will do, I'll be putting it on my site anyway.
L403[06:15:52] <dangranos> notepad++?
L404[06:15:55] <dangranos> aww
L405[06:16:01] <dangranos> didnt saw your message
L406[06:16:07] <gustav9797> "# dig XX": "can only run on robots". It is a robot.
L407[06:16:25] <ShadowKatStudios> It it? Is it really gustav9797 ?
L408[06:16:34] <ShadowKatStudios> What is a rotot, really?
L409[06:16:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Sorry, I'm feeling silly :P
L410[06:16:44] <gustav9797> Well it's not a cat, it's not a troll, must be a robot.
L411[06:17:08] <ShadowKatStudios> So dangranos, what's your suggestion?
L412[06:17:23] <gustav9797> Anyone had my problem? :/
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L414[06:30:44] * ShadowKatStudios wonders how many computers there were with the first letter of their name being a...
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L418[06:35:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Arghhhh!!! Damn this connection
L419[06:38:30] <Kenny> Vexatos: why did you pick the year 1957
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L422[06:39:20] <Vexatos> Kenny: How many large computer companies you think there were in 1957?
L423[06:39:41] <Kenny> none that i know of, just wondered why you picked 1957
L424[06:39:58] <Kenny> since 1957 was the year i was born :P
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L426[06:40:27] <Vexatos> .-.
L427[06:40:33] <Dean4Devil> o/
L428[06:40:57] <Kenny> \o
L429[06:41:19] <Kenny> next thur is my bday
L430[06:41:31] <Kenny> next wed*
L431[06:41:41] <Kenny> the 23rd
L432[06:41:49] <Dean4Devil> :D
L433[06:41:57] <Dean4Devil> I need a gift for ya :O
L434[06:42:05] <Kenny> i was born in 57 and i'll be 57
L435[06:42:49] <Dean4Devil> yay
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L438[06:46:49] <ShadowKatStudios> dangranos, you are Russian yes? Can you give me a russian guy's name written in english?
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L440[06:47:47] <Paper_Beemo> how do i get the time of day
L441[06:48:06] <Kenny> with an OC computer: os.time()
L442[06:48:13] <Kenny> but it will not be right
L443[06:49:03] <Dean4Devil> SKS: whats the name?
L444[06:49:27] <Paper_Beemo> to clear a screen can i do term.clear
L445[06:49:35] <Paper_Beemo> also do i have to require os and term
L446[06:49:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh f, accidentally pulled the ethernet cable out
L447[06:49:36] <Kenny> yes
L448[06:49:47] <Paper_Beemo> yes to what
L449[06:51:06] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm just after a name in russian for one of the characters.
L450[06:51:15] <Kenny> yes you use term.clear() to to clear the screen
L451[06:51:33] <Kenny> and yes you have to require term
L452[06:51:36] <Kenny> but not os
L453[06:51:38] <Paper_Beemo> http://titanpad.com/timeofday
L454[06:51:41] <Paper_Beemo> would that work
L455[06:52:10] <Kenny> it would work but the time youi get would ne MC time
L456[06:52:12] <Bladeshadow> DMAN! Still not working...HALP! http://pastebin.com/BDfbN83d
L457[06:52:16] <Kenny> be*
L458[06:52:37] <Dean4Devil> SKS: IM window
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L461[06:56:09] <Bladeshadow> Can smeone tell me why this is not getting loaded as an API? http://pastebin.com/BDfbN83d
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L463[06:57:47] <Paper_Beemo> can some one help me here http://titanpad.com/timeofday
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L467[07:01:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Would you guys murder me if I posted this as a plain text document?
L468[07:01:52] <Bizzycola> obv
L469[07:03:23] <ShadowKatStudios> So I have to html-ize it?
L470[07:03:45] <ShadowKatStudios> (damn)
L471[07:03:48] <Bizzycola> No idea what your talking about but sure
L472[07:03:48] <Bizzycola> :p
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L474[07:04:48] <ShadowKatStudios> It's a 'story'
L475[07:05:02] <ShadowKatStudios> But I'm writing it as a plain text document to save hassle.
L476[07:05:08] <Bladeshadow> Bizzycola: can you help me and tell me why this cant be loaded as an API? http://pastebin.com/BDfbN83d
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L478[07:07:21] <Dean4Devil> Bladeshadow: what happens if you try?
L479[07:09:10] <Bladeshadow> gimme amoment
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L481[07:11:22] <Vexatos> Hey asie, have you looked into the camera robot again?
L482[07:11:31] <Bladeshadow> folowing happens: if i do "local move = require("movement")" thewre are no errors, but if i do move.tryForward(2) then it says: attempt to index global 'move' (a nil value)
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L484[07:12:10] <Dean4Devil> its load
L485[07:12:15] <Dean4Devil> load("movement")
L486[07:12:26] <Bladeshadow> okey?
L487[07:12:31] <Bladeshadow> lets give that a try
L488[07:12:38] <Sangar> o/
L489[07:12:51] <Sangar> so. i just turned in my thesis! now to catch up on oc...
L490[07:12:55] <Michiyo> holy crap a Sangar!
L491[07:13:03] <Kenny> Sangar :)
L492[07:13:05] <Dean4Devil> omygod
L493[07:13:07] <asie> it's a wild Sangar!
L494[07:13:11] <asie> asie uses TAPE DRIVES!
L495[07:13:14] <Bizzycola> A wild San(g)ar emerges..
L496[07:13:16] <asie> It's not very effective...
L497[07:13:20] <Sangar> hahaha
L498[07:13:38] <nekosune> stupid debugging >.>
L499[07:13:47] <nekosune> at least OC lets me debug, unlike CC
L500[07:13:50] <Sangar> i'll see what logs i have of the last couple of days, but if you pinged me with something important, better bring it up again :P
L501[07:14:24] <Kenny> Sangar: you know the video crashes people have been experiencing with OC and ATI video cards. found the issue: it is the Screen Resolution for the tier 3 computer
L502[07:15:01] <Kenny> ATI does not like the 160x50
L503[07:15:04] <Sangar> Kenny, really? how did you come to that conclusion?
L504[07:15:14] <Kenny> someone did some testing yesterday
L505[07:15:23] <Bizzycola> Can you actually change the size of written text in OC? o.O
L506[07:15:23] <Bladeshadow> Damn!
L507[07:15:29] <Kenny> if he lowered the resolution to 160x30 it dind't crash
L508[07:15:33] <Dean4Devil> Does it work? :P
L509[07:15:41] <Bladeshadow> http://pastebin.com/BDfbN83d is loadable
L510[07:15:58] <Dean4Devil> Everythings fine now? :D
L511[07:15:58] <Sangar> hmm. interesting. i could try to render it in two parts, that might help then.
L512[07:16:17] <Sangar> thanks for the info (and to whoever did that testing)
L513[07:16:19] <Bladeshadow> but if i try calling a function, it tells me move points at nil
L514[07:16:28] <Kenny> the person i was working with is also a developer so i trust his testing :)
L515[07:17:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Apprroximately how long is a chapter? And what size text?
L516[07:17:21] <Sangar> good to hear. i'll have a shot at it after i've worked through the backlog of email and github issues :D
L517[07:17:45] <Dean4Devil> Bladeshadow: Do a loadfile() (fs api may needed)
L518[07:17:49] <ShadowKatStudios> .sksboard My hand-eye coordination has suffered as a result of lack of sleep
L519[07:18:01] <ShadowKatStudios> ... No ^v?
L520[07:18:11] <Kenny> no prob. just that this gives a possible solution
L521[07:19:42] <Kenny> Bladeshadow: whenever you make a function it MUST be placed before any other function calling it
L522[07:20:04] <Kenny> you have turnToAngle initialized after a function which calls it
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L524[07:20:38] <Dean4Devil> Kenny: But that error should show up if he try's to load the api, right?
L525[07:20:47] <Kenny> not necessarily
L526[07:20:51] <Dean4Devil> oh...
L527[07:21:03] <Kenny> but it will return a nil value
L528[07:21:04] <Dean4Devil> more hours of debugging gone to waste ._.
L529[07:22:27] <Kenny> 99% of the time it will error when trying to ruin it. but if you are loading it as an api it doesn't necessarily mean it will the error
L530[07:22:32] <Kenny> run*
L531[07:22:39] <Kenny> will show*
L532[07:23:21] <Kenny> loaded as an Api the error will not show until a function is called
L533[07:23:37] <nekosune> I take it this wont work in Open Computers?
L534[07:23:38] <nekosune> HashMap<Double, HashMap<String, Object>> markersToSet = (HashMap<Double, HashMap<String, Object>>) arguments;
L535[07:23:40] <Dean4Devil> well... thats 3 out of 4 errors in my programs so far. But i thought load() would raise the error.... :(
L536[07:23:58] <nekosune> where arguments is checkTable(0)
L537[07:24:01] <Kenny> it should
L538[07:24:22] <nekosune> it dosnt, it gets to that line, then just crashes
L539[07:24:27] <Kenny> neko, that is way above my head coding wise :)
L540[07:24:30] <nekosune> well it just gives up on the program
L541[07:24:33] <nekosune> ahh oki
L542[07:24:45] <nekosune> is it okay to ping Sanga_ here?
L543[07:24:54] <Kenny> i've onhly been coding in lua for about 2.5 months
L544[07:24:59] <Kenny> yes
L545[07:25:01] <nekosune> ahh that was java
L546[07:25:16] <Kenny> been coding java for less tiem hehe
L547[07:25:22] <Kenny> time*
L548[07:25:40] <nekosune> Sangar May I ask I take it HashMap<Double, HashMap<String, Object>> markersToSet = (HashMap<Double, HashMap<String, Object>>) arguments; wont work in OC on the java end? arguments=args.checkTable(0)
L549[07:28:06] <Kenny> he may take a few minutes to respond :)
L550[07:28:47] <Sangar> nekosune, hmmm. try using untyped maps instead, and only cast the actual keys/values where you actually use them.
L551[07:30:00] <Sangar> iirc the conversion table->map is done by jnlua, and i don't know how it instantiates the maps
L552[07:36:37] <nekosune> yeah, I noticed when I debugged, it was saying about jnLua.converter
L553[07:36:58] <nekosune> but okay thanks, It looks like I MAY have to move some ocde out of my implementation and make it OC specific
L554[07:37:06] <nekosune> I am trying to share as much of the code as I can between CC and OC
L555[07:37:32] <Sangar> that makes sense. maybe a custom converter layer would do?
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L557[07:39:31] <nekosune> Just checking
L558[07:39:43] <nekosune> unfortunatly I cant test CC yet of course, so I will see if just doing Map works in OC
L559[07:39:47] <nekosune> and worry about CC when they update
L560[07:40:01] <nekosune> its a shame you have to have CC installed for OC to read CC peripherals :)
L561[07:40:24] <Bizzycola> don't think there is much you can do about it
L562[07:40:47] <Bizzycola> Pretty much install CC or don't use OCC :
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L564[07:41:17] <Dean4Devil> But openperipherals is pretty much awesome ._.
L565[07:41:36] <Sangar> occ does more than just cc peripherals ;)
L566[07:41:39] <nekosune> yeah
L567[07:41:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Disable crafting CC computers?
L568[07:41:54] <nekosune> I am talking about my upgrade to 1.7
L569[07:41:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Then you still get the printer, too.
L570[07:41:59] <nekosune> where CC does not even exist yet :)
L571[07:42:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Bah, 1.7.
L572[07:42:23] <Sangar> but yeah, it'd be kind of a pain to try and support cc peripherals without cc present. in particular 'hosted' peripherals would be impossible, because the registry in cc would obviously be missing.
L573[07:42:28] <nekosune> I was hoping it would check for IPeripheral and use THAT for the compatibility check
L574[07:42:36] <nekosune> but yeah I can understand why :)
L575[07:43:16] <Sangar> well in cc 1.6 there are *only* hosted peripherals, basically, so even that wouldn't work anymore (at least not reliably)
L576[07:43:51] <nekosune> yeah, its a shame, but it dosnt matter :)
L577[07:44:07] <nekosune> oops
L578[07:44:14] <nekosune> I accidentally broke a hole in the middle of my monitor
L579[07:44:25] <Sangar> it happens
L580[07:44:50] <Michiyo> ShadowKatStudios, no need to install CC for printers, OpenPrinter is a thing now :P
L581[07:44:55] <Dean4Devil> hopefully you're talking about ingame here... :O
L582[07:44:59] <nekosune> I am yeah
L583[07:45:17] <nekosune> Nope
L584[07:45:18] <Michiyo> lol Dean4Devil
L585[07:45:22] <nekosune> oh wait
L586[07:45:24] <nekosune> I know whuy
L587[07:45:25] <nekosune> Map
L588[07:45:27] <nekosune> not hashmap
L589[07:45:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Yeah, it can print now, can't it?
L590[07:45:35] <Michiyo> Indeed it can!
L591[07:45:55] <ShadowKatStudios> What's a printer that can't print? :P
L592[07:46:09] <ShadowKatStudios> (I'd say it's 'indev')
L593[07:46:10] <Michiyo> A er.
L594[07:46:14] <Dean4Devil> An awesome 3D model in this case :D
L595[07:46:26] <ShadowKatStudios> True, true.
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L597[07:46:57] <Michiyo> I still need to get a decent texture for the cube version.. it uses the models texture for the block render if you disable the 3d model.
L598[07:47:17] <Michiyo> it looks quiet... funny to say the least.
L599[07:47:27] <Dean4Devil> xD
L600[07:47:39] <Michiyo> Also the updater checker rocks..
L601[07:47:44] <Michiyo> I just wish I could take more credit for it..
L602[07:47:45] <Michiyo> lol
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L604[07:54:00] <nekosune> Wooo thankyou Sangar
L605[07:54:00] <nekosune> http://i.imgur.com/xK348zQ.png
L606[07:54:03] <nekosune> :) it works now
L607[07:54:53] <Sangar> great! :)
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L609[07:55:48] <nekosune> and I believe it will still work in CC too :) thankyou!
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L612[08:05:47] <nekosune> wooo just two more functions on the golem connector
L613[08:11:09] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll HTML-ize this and see what you guys think.
L614[08:12:32] <Vexatos> What the hell
L615[08:12:42] <Vexatos> distance from the robot to the block is not -1 >_>
L616[08:13:06] <Vexatos> asie, come back online and fix your camera >__>
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L618[08:16:40] <Vexatos> Dangit
L619[08:16:52] <Vexatos> I the robot camera upgrade does not work
L620[08:17:07] <Vexatos> and I can't use the camera block because the robot can't interact with it
L621[08:17:08] <Vexatos> :D
L622[08:18:37] <Vexatos> HELP
L623[08:18:51] <Vexatos> Sangar: Is there any upgrade to make a robot talk to external components?
L624[08:19:24] <Bizzycola> cant you add a network card and have a server? :p
L625[08:19:35] <Bizzycola> it's annoying but it could work
L626[08:20:24] <Sangar> Vexatos, there isnt
L627[08:20:41] <Vexatos> Bizzycola, I need the robot to somehow connect to the camera block
L628[08:20:44] <Vexatos> from Computronics+
L629[08:20:49] <Vexatos> there is a camera upgrade
L630[08:20:55] <Vexatos> but it doesn't work for up and down
L631[08:20:58] <Vexatos> and I need down
L632[08:21:31] <Vexatos> The problem is, that could be solved using CC turtles, but I do not want to use them
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L634[08:22:34] <Michiyo> Vexatos, ^ lol
L635[08:22:42] <Vexatos> ?
L636[08:23:10] <Michiyo> asie *just* joined lol
L637[08:23:10] <JoshTheEnder> Vexatos, asie makes computronics
L638[08:23:18] <asie> he knows
L639[08:23:21] <Vexatos> I know
L640[08:23:24] <asie> and i know that distanceUp/Down is broken
L641[08:23:25] <Vexatos> AH ASIE
L642[08:23:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Guys, opinions?: http://shadowkatstudios.gweb.io/derp.html
L643[08:23:32] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> distance from the robot to the block is not -1 >_>
L644[08:23:38] <Vexatos> It ALWAYS returns -1
L645[08:23:40] <asie> Vexatos: is it above 32?
L646[08:23:46] <Vexatos> No
L647[08:23:49] <Vexatos> It's right above it
L648[08:23:50] <asie> okay that's weird
L649[08:23:57] <asie> right above it?
L650[08:24:02] <asie> put 1 block of space between them
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L652[08:24:37] <Vexatos> Well, some of the blocks have air inbetween
L653[08:24:41] <asie> i've almost given up on Minecraft though so don't expect me to do many Computronics updates beyond 0.3.3
L654[08:24:43] <asie> ._.
L655[08:24:53] <Vexatos> It's the structure I showed you a couple of hours ago
L656[08:24:56] <asie> i know
L657[08:25:38] <Vexatos> Please fix that :|
L658[08:25:48] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/8cjsB/e119c9c97a.png
L659[08:25:56] <Vexatos> That's the distance map of the structure
L660[08:26:00] <asie> Vexatos: does it work when taken from sides?
L661[08:26:05] <Vexatos> Let me see
L662[08:26:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Almost given up on minecraft?
L663[08:26:56] <Vexatos> Nope
L664[08:26:59] <asie> okay
L665[08:27:01] <asie> so that's a bug!
L666[08:27:05] <Vexatos> asie: If I do print(camera.distance(0,0))
L667[08:27:05] <asie> good job, you found a bug
L668[08:27:09] <Vexatos> It always returns -1
L669[08:27:17] <asie> and a quite serious bug too
L670[08:27:21] <asie> i'm surprised nobody noticed it before
L671[08:27:23] <Vexatos> and 0,0 should be straight in front
L672[08:27:24] <Vexatos> right?
L673[08:27:26] <asie> yes
L674[08:27:33] <Vexatos> Noone but me uses it :3
L675[08:28:08] * ShadowKatStudios uses Computronics for the tapes
L676[08:29:07] <asie> the delicious tapes
L677[08:29:51] <Vexatos> How do I write something onto a tape?
L678[08:29:59] <Vexatos> Do I have to do it outside the game?
L679[08:30:21] <JoshTheEnder> i want edible tapes now
L680[08:30:22] <JoshTheEnder> :/
L681[08:30:28] <JoshTheEnder> mmmmm data
L682[08:30:28] <asie> Vexatos: no
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L686[08:32:35] <Vexatos> How do i do it then?
L687[08:32:42] <Vexatos> The wiki doesn't say anything
L688[08:34:06] <Vexatos> asie ^
L689[08:34:15] <ShadowKatStudios> You convert it, then you use a computer to write it.
L690[08:34:57] <Kenny> Sangar: http://i.imgur.com/2FSwnK9.jpg
L691[08:35:00] <Kenny> lol
L692[08:35:22] <Michiyo> Yarr
L693[08:35:24] <asie> Vexatos: tape.write
L694[08:35:24] <Bizzycola> lol
L695[08:35:36] <asie> someone should really go fix up the wiki... *sigh*
L696[08:35:46] <Bizzycola> is it even public editable? :p
L697[08:36:04] <ShadowKatStudios> So, anyone have any comments or like... any opinion on what I wrote?
L698[08:36:15] <Vexatos> <ShadowKatStudios> You convert it, then you use a computer to write it.
L699[08:36:25] <Sangar> Kenny, heh
L700[08:36:32] <Vexatos> How do I do that? Do I have to copy the file onto some computer's Hard drive?
L701[08:36:32] <ShadowKatStudios> No, http://shadowkatstudios.gweb.io/derp.html
L702[08:36:34] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
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L704[08:37:06] <Bizzycola> For any old data you just write
L705[08:37:14] <Bizzycola> if you want audio you have to convert it to the correct format
L706[08:38:01] <Vexatos> >__>
L707[08:38:07] <Vexatos> Yes, I want audio
L708[08:38:08] <Bizzycola> What OS?
L709[08:38:16] <Vexatos> OpenOS
L710[08:38:23] <Bizzycola> I mean the computer you are playing MC on
L711[08:38:29] <Vexatos> Windows
L712[08:38:35] <Vexatos> :<
L713[08:38:40] <Bizzycola> alright, do you have java in your path?
L714[08:38:49] <Vexatos> No
L715[08:38:50] <Vexatos> ...
L716[08:38:56] <Bizzycola> Hmm
L717[08:39:02] <Vexatos> What am I supposed to do?
L718[08:39:10] <Bizzycola> I have a tool but you kinda need java in your path variable
L719[08:39:19] <Bizzycola> Well do you know where java.exe/javaw.exe is? :p
L720[08:39:26] <Vexatos> I know >__>
L721[08:39:41] <JoshTheEnder> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+add+java+to+path
L722[08:39:43] <Vexatos> I can always run it through eclipse instead of the cmd
L723[08:39:55] <Bizzycola> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pm8lp3yx21iruqy/converterwindows.7z --download this, open the bat file, replace "java" with your path to java
L724[08:40:02] <Vexatos> JoshTheEnder, I KNOW HOW TO DI IT
L725[08:40:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Thank * that bizzy has it covered and I don't have to dig through my logs
L726[08:40:19] <Bizzycola> if it has spaces, rememver to surround it with ""
L727[08:40:49] <Dean4Devil> ShadowKatStudios: awesome :3
L728[08:40:53] <Vexatos> ShadiwCatStudios: Cool story :D
L729[08:41:31] <Vexatos> Uhm
L730[08:41:34] <Vexatos> Bizzycola
L731[08:41:38] <Bizzycola> yea?
L732[08:42:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Anything I should adjust? I know I forgot a name in there, but I'm waiting on someone that sleeps normal hours to provide her online name.
L733[08:42:12] <Vexatos> I already have a .dfpwm file
L734[08:42:21] <Vexatos> I just wanted to know how to write it onto a tape
L735[08:42:25] <Bizzycola> oh so you converted the audio
L736[08:42:30] <Vexatos> Yes
L737[08:42:41] <Bizzycola> Well, first of all, get it on the drive on your OC computer
L738[08:43:05] <JoshTheEnder> aww, still no servers on the forums http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/forum/40-servers/
L739[08:43:08] * JoshTheEnder is sad
L740[08:44:18] <Dean4Devil> Also SKS: you miss a </div> at the end :P
L741[08:44:29] <Vexatos> Bozzycola: done
L742[08:45:03] <Bizzycola> Vexatos: http://pastebin.com/VJvRMR9e
L743[08:45:13] <Bizzycola> the 3 files I use on every computer with a tape drive :p
L744[08:45:55] <Bizzycola> I created them long ago and they've been useful ever since :p
L745[08:46:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Oops
L746[08:47:21] <ShadowKatStudios> The missing untag should be fixed now :P
L747[08:48:17] <Cazzar> JoshTheEnder: I know of one server that uses OC, though I dont think they want to be on the board soo yea :P
L748[08:48:36] <Kenny> http://i.imgur.com/Olkcl.jpg
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L750[08:51:51] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L751[08:52:03] <Vexatos> Bizzycola: Could you put those 3 programs to OpenPrograms?
L752[08:52:14] <Bizzycola> I don't have an openprograms repo
L753[08:52:25] <ShadowKatStudios> M&M tournament. Sounds fun.
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L757[08:53:36] <Vexatos> Bizzycola: You want one?
L758[08:53:43] <Vexatos> Tell me your github name
L759[08:53:59] <Bizzycola> bizzycola :p
L760[08:56:42] <Vexatos> Ok, you have access now
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L763[08:57:19] <din> woof?
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L765[09:01:15] <SpiritedDusty> I like how I have a team just for myself in the openprograms repo...
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L767[09:02:33] <JoshTheEnder> SpiritedDusty, everyone has that.....
L768[09:02:46] <SpiritedDusty> Vexatos, https://github.com/orgs/OpenPrograms/teams
L769[09:03:00] <JoshTheEnder> it only shows your own
L770[09:03:07] <Vexatos> ?
L771[09:03:13] <JoshTheEnder> well, ones that you have access to
L772[09:03:19] <Vexatos> Yea
L773[09:03:24] <SpiritedDusty> oh I thought it showed everything
L774[09:03:28] <Vexatos> Everyone has its very own team
L775[09:03:32] <Vexatos> so he/she can make a repo
L776[09:03:39] <JoshTheEnder> also for some reason, Sanga_r owns mine
L777[09:03:45] <Vexatos> and only he/she has direct (non-pull-request) access to it
L778[09:04:10] <Vexatos> So it's still like if everyone would have it on their own account
L779[09:04:16] <Vexatos> just all in one place
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L781[09:04:45] <JoshTheEnder> wait nvm
L782[09:06:39] <Vexatos> OH MY GOD
L783[09:06:42] <Vexatos> asie, I love you
L784[09:06:44] <Vexatos> those tapes o.O
L785[09:06:48] <Vexatos> O.o
L786[09:06:49] <asie> what?
L787[09:06:57] <Vexatos> These are AWESOME
L788[09:07:03] <asie> not really
L789[09:07:14] <asie> the quality sucks, although at 32kbit there's not a lot to expect
L790[09:07:33] <Vexatos> sucks? it's minecraft >__>
L791[09:07:38] <SpiritedDusty> last time when I heard it, it sounded fine
L792[09:07:39] <Vexatos> What to expect
L793[09:07:41] <Vexatos> Yea
L794[09:07:59] <SpiritedDusty> Vexatos, that's exactly what I was about to type "it's minecraft what to expect"
L795[09:08:11] <Vexatos> :P
L796[09:08:54] <Vexatos> asie: Now we need a dfpwm audio editor :D
L797[09:08:59] <asie> Vexatos: doable
L798[09:09:03] <asie> dfpwm can be converted to pcm and back very easily
L799[09:09:08] <Vexatos> :O
L800[09:09:09] <asie> look at the DFPWM.java code in the AsieLib repo
L801[09:09:25] <asie> Vexatos: https://github.com/asiekierka/AsieLib/blob/1.7/src/main/java/pl/asie/lib/audio/DFPWM.java
L802[09:09:27] <asie> is this "complicated"?
L803[09:09:46] <Vexatos> No
L804[09:10:04] <asie> :)
L805[09:10:04] <Dean4Devil> asie: Also, i'm using you mod(s) to learn 1.7.2 forge :P
L806[09:10:17] <asie> Dean4Devil: i'm not updating my mods for 1.7.2 anymore but okay
L807[09:10:54] <Sangar> oh, what made you stop working on your 1.7 modpack?
L808[09:10:58] <Dean4Devil> Its better than digging into forge code itself, but atm i cant setup a 1.6 devenv :(
L809[09:11:33] <asie> Sangar: 1.7.
L810[09:11:40] <asie> specifically, the sorry state of 1.7.2
L811[09:11:49] <Sangar> ah, i see
L812[09:12:02] <asie> and the fact Minecraft will be even more repeatedly broken than ever
L813[09:12:03] <asie> in 1.8 and 1.9
L814[09:12:19] <Sangar> yeah, so much fun incoming there
L815[09:12:31] <asie> that's why if anything i'm staying on 1.6.4
L816[09:12:32] <Bizzycola> Vexatos: https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Bizzycolas-Programs/tree/master/Computronics
L817[09:12:41] <SpiritedDusty> isn't minecraft getting itself a built in moding API? or is that for the sever side?
L818[09:12:59] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty, that's a little bit like duke nukem forever
L819[09:13:07] <SpiritedDusty> lol
L820[09:13:09] <JoshTheEnder> i'm guessing that it will be a 'plugin' api at best
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L822[09:15:01] <Dean4Devil> They rather feature an "Install MC Forge" Button on the new shiny launcher they tried to make
L823[09:15:09] <Dean4Devil> *should
L824[09:15:33] <JoshTheEnder> no, it should be labeled 'make it better'
L825[09:15:42] <Dean4Devil> "Make it right"
L826[09:16:47] <JoshTheEnder> 'make it work'
L827[09:17:56] <Bizzycola> need launcher to be open source
L828[09:18:01] <Bizzycola> I'd add that button :p
L829[09:18:03] <Dean4Devil> MultiMC
L830[09:18:24] <Bizzycola> Actually multimc can install forge can't it? :p
L831[09:18:30] <JoshTheEnder> it can
L832[09:18:31] <Dean4Devil> They totally cloned it -.-
L833[09:18:43] <Bizzycola> multlimc looks better anyways :p
L834[09:18:43] <JoshTheEnder> Dean4Devil, they tried to, but failed
L835[09:18:55] <JoshTheEnder> 'upgrade to better launcher' *downloads multimc*
L836[09:18:59] <Dean4Devil> Like with programming a good, stable game?
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L838[09:19:17] <JoshTheEnder> Dean4Devil, yep
L839[09:19:37] <BeboBobo> havent used multimc since 1.5. has it improved?
L840[09:19:51] <JoshTheEnder> yeah, it has a cat on it now :)
L841[09:19:59] <Bizzycola> heh indeed
L842[09:20:15] <Dean4Devil> 99% done stopping trying to mod MC and switch to one of the clones that actually work as intended
L843[09:20:15] <JoshTheEnder> and multimc5 (1.6 era) can do all versions
L844[09:22:27] <Dean4Devil> Does forge 1.6.4 develop work with oracle java 1.8?
L845[09:28:14] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, can components return tables?
L846[09:28:25] <SpiritedDusty> component methods*
L847[09:28:35] <Sangar> yes
L848[09:28:42] <SpiritedDusty> thanks
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L854[09:33:41] <Vexatos> I love the fact that you are actually hearing when the computer is working
L855[09:33:47] <Vexatos> Sangar: Thank you for sound effects :D
L856[09:35:01] <Sangar> i enjoy that, too :) for some reason it's really satisfying. thank asie for providing the floppy disk sounds btw!
L857[09:35:23] <asie> I know
L858[09:35:26] <asie> I know it's satisfying
L859[09:35:27] <asie> :3
L860[09:36:20] <JoshTheEnder> if only you could do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrIvu3w458Q with them... :P
L861[09:36:20] -Kibibyte- [JoshTheEnder] Beverly Hills Cop Theme on eight floppy drives | by mrsolidsnake745 | 3m2s | 69w1d ago | 180,840 views | Rated: 4.99/5.00
L862[09:41:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Those FDD sounds are amazing. Which computer are they from?
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L864[09:52:44] <Vexatos> What the hell o.O
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L867[09:56:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Hai ping
L868[09:58:13] <ping> hai
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L871[09:59:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Anything interesting happening there?
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L873[10:04:58] <ping> built le openprograms page
L874[10:05:09] <ping> \o/ Bizzycola
L875[10:05:25] <Bizzycola> hi
L876[10:05:39] <ping> sry was asleep
L877[10:05:40] <Vexatos> I did not build it because I did not have my external HDD plugged in
L878[10:05:41] <Vexatos> ping
L879[10:05:45] <ping> ik
L880[10:05:46] <Vexatos> I did it in-browser
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L882[10:06:01] <Vexatos> Bizzycola: http://openprograms.github.io/
L883[10:06:04] <Vexatos> You are now there
L884[10:06:33] <Bizzycola> Coolio
L885[10:06:36] <Porygon> does OC have an audio API?
L886[10:06:45] <Bizzycola> should add something useful to my new repo sometime :p
L887[10:06:47] <Porygon> something that can ply better sounds than note blocks?
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L889[10:07:45] <ping> tapes
L890[10:08:13] <ping> i mean, it sounds awful if you try to convert some music
L891[10:08:35] <Porygon> is it 8-bit or something?
L892[10:08:39] <ping> but can still sound better than notblocks if you compose it properly
L893[10:08:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Nice, I saw, very fancy. I wrote a first chapter of a story
L894[10:08:50] <ping> its a strange audio format
L895[10:09:16] <JoshTheEnder> 32bit i think Porygon
L896[10:09:17] <Porygon> mhm
L897[10:11:24] <ShadowKatStudios> It's 16-bit at 32768hz
L898[10:13:30] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm gonna make a proper index page for my story
L899[10:14:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm... That means I'll have to relearn html. Shit.
L900[10:14:57] <ping> :O
L901[10:15:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Also does anyone want to suggest a name for it?
L902[10:15:57] <Porygon> I can't find anyhing on the wiki about tapes
L903[10:16:02] <Porygon> or from google
L904[10:16:06] <Porygon> or the thread
L905[10:16:22] <JoshTheEnder> they're from a mod named computronics, made by asie
L906[10:16:29] <Porygon> oh
L907[10:16:32] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: no it's not
L908[10:16:34] <asie> it's 1-bit at 32768Hz
L909[10:16:40] <asie> using a special codec to give the illusion of being 8-bit
L910[10:16:43] <ping> http://mc.shinonome.ch/
L911[10:16:50] <ping> ^ Porygon
L912[10:16:57] <Porygon> ok
L913[10:17:09] <JoshTheEnder> ?help
L914[10:17:09] <EnderBot> I can help you with: BlackKnight, opencomputers, opencomponents, OpenPrograms, ocforum, dev-builds, chanstats, 2048game,
L915[10:17:09] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates
L916[10:17:11] <asie> ping: music doesn't sound very good
L917[10:17:13] <asie> but there's a way to cheat aroudn it
L918[10:17:16] <asie> in 0.3.1+
L919[10:17:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh. There you go. Never mind, I don't know anything, nothing new there
L920[10:17:19] <asie> you can set the speed to 2.0
L921[10:17:25] <asie> and then convert music at 65536Hz
L922[10:17:30] <asie> the quality becomes a few times bette
L923[10:17:31] <asie> r
L924[10:17:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Half the time at double the speed? Nice.
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L926[10:17:48] <Biohazard> wot
L927[10:18:35] <JoshTheEnder> &addtohelp computronics Computronics adds awesome stuff to OC like Tapes, get it here http://mc.shinonome.ch/
L928[10:18:35] <EnderBot> Added computronics successfully
L929[10:19:01] <ShadowKatStudios> ping: You should check out http://shadowkatstudios.gweb.io/story-1/chapter-1.html , I wrote it :D
L930[10:19:10] <ping> i dont read
L931[10:20:24] <Vexatos> " Muggles. They're muggles."
L932[10:20:27] <Vexatos> ^ that.
L933[10:21:15] <ShadowKatStudios> You don't read?
L934[10:21:17] <ShadowKatStudios> :o
L935[10:21:25] <Vexatos> ping is reading right now
L936[10:21:52] <ping> i dont like reading
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L938[10:22:17] <JoshTheEnder> ShadowKatStudios, "It's sorta hard to pay attention to pay attention during the day wh..."
L939[10:22:26] <JoshTheEnder> 1st big paragraph
L940[10:22:29] <pong> no i diddnt miss anything, bot still on
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L944[10:22:55] <ShadowKatStudios> What about it?
L945[10:22:55] <ping> fail
L946[10:23:07] <JoshTheEnder> you say "pay attention" twice
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L948[10:24:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh. Oops.
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L951[10:25:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Should be fixed once it finished syncing.
L952[10:26:24] <ping> .jenkins
L953[10:26:28] <^v> ping, Last successful build 5.41 MB http://goo.gl/YHSGxv 1 hr 43 min ago
L954[10:26:38] <ShadowKatStudios> (Also no-one noticed 'Hacked th Gibson'?)
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L957[10:28:29] <ping> not sure if shit isp or shit internet card
L958[10:29:01] <JoshTheEnder> :O I WHAT MORE!! :P
L959[10:29:05] <JoshTheEnder> *want
L960[10:29:29] <ping> whahnt muhr*
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L965[10:30:09] <ping> mayby its winsock
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L967[10:30:59] <ShadowKatStudios> What do you want more of JoshTheEnder ?
L968[10:31:10] <JoshTheEnder> the story :/
L969[10:31:31] <ShadowKatStudios> :P Oh, OK, I could probably do that
L970[10:31:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Enjoyable?
L971[10:31:44] <JoshTheEnder> yep
L972[10:32:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh. I'll see what I can do.
L973[10:32:58] <dangranos> bye, sleep
L974[10:33:32] <ping> … love2d
L975[10:33:42] <ping> why does your name have to be dis
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L977[10:33:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Night dangranos
L978[10:33:58] <ping> your making my parents think i am looking for love
L979[10:34:06] <ping> y u do dis love2d
L980[10:34:11] <SpiritedDusty> hate2d
L981[10:34:20] <ShadowKatStudios> They're good at trolling?
L982[10:34:36] <SpiritedDusty> sex2d? you parents are gonna think you're looking for sex?
L983[10:35:45] <ping> SECS is a useful api :(
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L985[10:36:35] <dangranos> XD
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L993[10:46:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Hey, you guys that are intending to read the next chapter get to hear about why I hate HPE! Probably won't be fun for you.
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L999[10:47:34] <JoshTheEnder> what's hpe?
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L1001[10:49:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Health and physical education
L1002[10:49:14] <JoshTheEnder> ahh
L1003[10:49:38] <JoshTheEnder> i always tried to do the least effot possible in those lessons
L1004[10:50:00] <ShadowKatStudios> I take that to the extreme.
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L1006[10:52:40] <ping> http://puu.sh/8crTU.png
L1007[10:52:42] <ping> :D
L1008[10:52:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Is that what I think it is?
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L1013[10:53:39] <ping> yes
L1014[10:53:42] <ping> mandebrot
L1015[10:53:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Very nice.
L1016[10:54:24] <ping> http://puu.sh/8cs0i.png
L1017[10:54:28] <ping> maximum resolution
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L1028[11:08:53] <nekosune> hi
L1029[11:09:08] <nekosune> I hate to do this, IU have another question if is okay :)
L1030[11:09:34] <nekosune> is there anyway in OC API for my code to act as a proxy for another block in world?
L1031[11:09:51] <nekosune> ... actuallywhen am I asking when OpenComponents exists and has a block that kinda does that?
L1032[11:10:13] <SpiritedDusty> nekosune, I think opencomponents is what you're looking for
L1033[11:10:13] <ping> what do you mean
L1034[11:10:38] <nekosune> I mod Thaumic Tinkerer, one of its blocks is a block called the Transvector Interface
L1035[11:10:54] <nekosune> t is a block you link to another block, then that block acts like the other one
L1036[11:11:11] <nekosune> like if you pump into one side of the interface, it acts as if you pumped into that side of the block
L1037[11:13:17] <gamax92> SHIT, How am I down to 1GB free.
L1038[11:13:55] <nekosune> Looks like I am going to have to look at the adapter, and try and convert it into java some >.>
L1039[11:14:04] <nekosune> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/common/tileentity/Adapter.scala seems to do what I want in a way
L1040[11:14:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm... Don't think I should show this to anyone I know in real life, I've put too much shit on them.
L1041[11:15:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Especially my girlfriend, considering what's happening in this chapter...
L1042[11:15:39] <SpiritedDusty> nekosune, what are you trying to do? make OC able to interact with a block?
L1043[11:15:55] <nekosune> SpiritedDusty: make my block act as another block
L1044[11:16:05] <nekosune> hence why looking at the adapter
L1045[11:16:19] <ping> ive made some major drawing optimizations to it
L1046[11:16:23] <ShadowKatStudios> (And no, it's not anything 'weird', it's just me not seeing what's going on)
L1047[11:16:40] <SpiritedDusty> nekosune, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/java/li/cil/oc/api/README.md
L1048[11:16:41] <ping> it draws so quickly now
L1049[11:16:46] <SpiritedDusty> I think that's what you're looking for
L1050[11:16:51] <ping> no longer setting each pixel individually
L1051[11:16:51] <gamax92> ping: what
L1052[11:17:00] <ping> gamax92, optimized mandlebrot
L1053[11:17:05] <gamax92> ooh, mandlebrot
L1054[11:17:22] <gamax92> I'll just gonna take all of my folders, and push them somewhere else.
L1055[11:17:23] <nekosune> no, no it is not
L1056[11:17:47] <nekosune> SpiritedDusty: I dont want to make my block a peripheral, I know how to do that, what I want is to make my block able to act as another block, towards OpenComputers
L1057[11:18:23] <nekosune> so if it is linked to say a jukebox, Opencomputers has all the functions it would see from a jukebox
L1058[11:19:20] <SpiritedDusty> oh, so you're trying to interact with blocks that you don't have code access to?
L1059[11:19:40] <nekosune> kinda yeah, basically I just want to act as a proxy between the computer and block B
L1060[11:19:44] <Sangar> nekosune, so you kind of want to make something like the adapter block?
L1061[11:19:44] <gamax92> funny, I did something like that in CC
L1062[11:19:45] <nekosune> where block B can be ANY block
L1063[11:20:02] <nekosune> Sangar: I wanted to add that capability to the Transvector Interface, as it can with CC
L1064[11:20:23] <nekosune> the Transvector interface is basically, a way to access a block remotely, (within 6 block radius)
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L1067[11:21:13] <nekosune> wb
L1068[11:21:17] <ping> \o/ Gopher
L1069[11:21:23] <gamax92> \o/ Gopher
L1070[11:22:55] <gamax92> Forgotten, how does OC handle things like infinite loops.
L1071[11:23:14] <SpiritedDusty> gamax92, it errors "too long without yielding"
L1072[11:23:24] <nekosune> going to look at the adapter code, and see if I can use that :)
L1073[11:23:31] <gamax92> and, after what point does it error that
L1074[11:23:56] <Sangar> nekosune, hmm, so your block appears as a component that *looks* like the one it proxies, basically?
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L1076[11:24:17] <ping> gamax92, after 1 second
L1077[11:24:24] <ping> depending on config
L1078[11:24:26] <gamax92> is it not instruction based?
L1079[11:24:28] <ping> :D Sangar
L1080[11:24:35] <nekosune> Sangar: basically yeah
L1081[11:24:42] <ping> it is, but it checks time aswell
L1082[11:24:47] <gamax92> :<
L1083[11:24:51] <gamax92> Damit Sangar
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L1086[11:25:35] <Sangar> nekosune, if you can live with it needing placed next to the adapter block to work, you could make a block driver which fetches the environment for the proxied block instead. that's not in the API yet, however (i do plan on adding it though), so you'll have to reflect into the driver registry.
L1087[11:26:10] <ping> gamax92, wat
L1088[11:26:24] <gamax92> I wanted to do compression and uncompression.
L1089[11:26:31] <ping> :/ oh yeah!
L1090[11:26:45] <ping> Sangar, is there a specific instructions per second ratio?
L1091[11:27:25] <Sangar> err, time vs instructions for timeout? well, time is a lot more intuitive to configure, so that's why it is as it is right now :/
L1092[11:27:46] <ping> timing is annoying
L1093[11:27:52] <ping> lag spike and all computers crash
L1094[11:27:57] <nekosune> well a lot of the blocks need so anyway for adapter, but lemme play with the adapter code some first on my end, I have an idea :)
L1095[11:28:08] <gamax92> I was kinda hoping it would run the native lua infinitely under low cpu usage.
L1096[11:28:09] <Sangar> i could be convinced to change that though, if anyone can reasonable instruction count?
L1097[11:28:19] <Sangar> *suggest a
L1098[11:28:34] <gamax92> 1 instruction per 82 seconds.
L1099[11:28:42] <ping> over 100000
L1100[11:28:44] <Sangar> brb, dinner
L1101[11:29:24] <ping> gamax92, ._.
L1102[11:29:27] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, what types can component methods arguments accept? the basic nil, boolean, string number?
L1103[11:29:57] <nekosune> does SimpleEnviroment inherit from Enviroment?
L1104[11:29:58] <gamax92> ping: you know how theres things like TeraCopy or FastCopy, but almost all of them have some fugly interface that doesn't intergrate well at all?
L1105[11:30:42] <ping> .< n=coroutine.create(function() while true do end end)
L1106[11:30:43] <^v> ping, nil
L1107[11:31:12] <gamax92> .< while true do pcall(function() while true do end end) end
L1108[11:31:12] <^v> Nope.
L1109[11:31:19] <ping> .< debug.sethook(n,function() error("Nuuu") end,"",1000000)
L1110[11:31:19] <^v> ping, nil
L1111[11:31:20] <gamax92> ping: why u do dis
L1112[11:31:23] <nekosune> wish me luck!
L1113[11:31:43] ⇦ Quits: Gopher (~Gopher@91.sub-174-237-5.myvzw.com) (Ping timeout: 186 seconds)
L1114[11:31:55] <ping> .< local t=socket.gettime() coroutine.resume(n) print(socket.gettime()-t)
L1115[11:31:56] <^v> ping, nil
L1116[11:31:58] <ping> ._.
L1117[11:32:09] <ping> was 0.021001815795898
L1118[11:32:27] <gamax92> hey ping, do you still run servers with that cps thingy.
L1119[11:32:43] <ping> no, how many times do i have to tell you my server died
L1120[11:33:03] <gamax92> you haven't gotten a new gpu?
L1121[11:33:08] <ping> no
L1122[11:33:30] <ping> .lua 1000000/0.021001815795898
L1123[11:33:31] <^v> ping, 47614930.524022
L1124[11:33:38] <ping> 47614930 instructions per second
L1125[11:33:39] <ping> ._.
L1126[11:33:48] <gamax92> yes
L1127[11:34:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Chapter 2 is just about done.
L1128[11:37:47] ⇦ Quits: gustav9797 (webchat@user76.77-105-215.netatonce.net) (Ping timeout: 198 seconds)
L1129[11:38:09] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Lol, SKS I just read chapter 1, its pretty good :D
L1130[11:38:46] <ShadowKatStudios> JoshTheEnder, SuPeRMiNoR2: http://shadowkatstudios.gweb.io/story-1/
L1131[11:38:50] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
L1132[11:38:53] <ping> .lua51 while true do end
L1133[11:38:54] <^v> ping, Time limit exeeded.
L1134[11:38:55] <ping> .ips
L1135[11:38:56] <^v> ping, none
L1136[11:38:58] <ping> wat
L1137[11:39:00] ⇦ Quits: willdude123 (~AndChat65@79-79-102-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) (Ping timeout: 194 seconds)
L1138[11:39:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Chapter 2 is done
L1139[11:39:42] <ping> that
L1140[11:39:44] <ping> thar*
L1141[11:39:48] <ping> decreased it
L1142[11:39:50] <ping> .ips
L1143[11:39:50] <^v> ping, none
L1144[11:39:52] <ping> ffs
L1145[11:40:15] <SuPeRMiNoR2> weight lifting with shopping? seems legit
L1146[11:40:33] <ping> debug hook not triggering
L1147[11:40:38] <ping> wai u do dis lua
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L1149[11:41:14] <ShadowKatStudios> It may as well be, I have to carry like 12 kilos
L1150[11:41:40] <gamax92> hmm, I could make a linux distro, that would boot directly to qemu, and start DOS
L1151[11:41:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> you failed at spelling alcohol
L1152[11:42:07] <gamax92> therefor, i can have crappy sb16 emulation, video support, and network support.
L1153[11:42:49] <ShadowKatStudios> It's 3 in the morning, OK?
L1154[11:43:24] <gamax92> Gives qemu access to physical drives, boots linux, runs qemu ...
L1155[11:43:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ok, ok
L1156[11:44:36] <SuPeRMiNoR2> is the part about your desktop computer having windows xp on one drive true?
L1157[11:44:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes, why?
L1158[11:45:01] <SuPeRMiNoR2> oh nothing
L1159[11:45:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Also I fixed alcohol.
L1160[11:45:15] <ShadowKatStudios> I have photos of The Borg.
L1161[11:45:15] <ping> .ips
L1162[11:45:16] <^v> ping, 24998235.827016
L1163[11:45:17] <ping> yay
L1164[11:45:22] <ping> so many instructions :D
L1165[11:45:26] <SuPeRMiNoR2> oooo, i wanna see the borg :D
L1166[11:45:38] <gamax92> so, 25,000,000 instructions per second?
L1167[11:45:58] <ping> yup
L1168[11:46:04] <gamax92> such fast
L1169[11:46:15] * ShadowKatStudios goes to dig up files from his desktop
L1170[11:46:29] <ping> single thread
L1171[11:46:38] <ping> and crappy laptop
L1172[11:46:44] <ping> and MC is open
L1173[11:47:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Isn't that like effectively 25Mhz?
L1174[11:47:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Though proobably not
L1175[11:47:34] <nekosune> meh for now, will just leave the interface alone,I have too much to do :)
L1176[11:47:47] <ShadowKatStudios> This isn't a RISC processor most likley :(
L1177[11:48:02] <ping> ill let laptop cool down, brb food
L1178[11:48:03] <gamax92> how fast was RPC again?
L1179[11:48:13] <ping> .ips
L1180[11:48:13] <^v> ping, 10683620.654522
L1181[11:48:17] <ping> already better
L1182[11:48:22] <gamax92> isn't that worse
L1183[11:48:42] <ShadowKatStudios> SuPeRMiNoR2: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79548926/IMG_20140105_005703.jpg is the only one I could find
L1184[11:48:54] <ShadowKatStudios> I have more pics of a computer I built in a crate though
L1185[11:49:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> dang
L1186[11:49:10] <gamax92> oh, RPC is 20KHz
L1187[11:49:27] <SuPeRMiNoR2> is that a wooden box? :D
L1188[11:49:27] <ping> …
L1189[11:49:31] <ping> it was worse D:
L1190[11:49:50] <ping> how does my performance decrease when i cool down
L1191[11:49:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, a crate is usually wooden, though this one was plastic
L1192[11:50:02] <ShadowKatStudios> SLower switching transistors ping?
L1193[11:50:57] <gamax92> perhapse your cpu slows down on idle?
L1194[11:51:26] <Vexatos> I'm ruling the world >:D http://puu.sh/8cvJU/748fd94d86.png
L1195[11:51:27] <ShadowKatStudios> SuPeRMiNoR2: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/79548926/IMG_20140114_183850.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/79548926/IMG_20140114_210743.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/79548926/IMG_20140115_114607.jpg
L1196[11:51:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Top of the world?
L1197[11:51:50] <Vexatos> Top of the computer
L1198[11:52:40] <gamax92> its like some mystcraft world, where its superflat but with iron,
L1199[11:52:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ShadowKatStudios: on the last picture, what is that breadboard doing?
L1200[11:53:05] <ShadowKatStudios> The breadboard is the controls for power, reset, power indicator, disk use indicator
L1201[11:53:23] <ShadowKatStudios> So I didn't have to poke pins with a screwdriver to turn it on.
L1202[11:53:26] <gamax92> hey ShadowKatStudios, wanna fix my computer?
L1203[11:53:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Do you really want something like that?
L1204[11:54:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> that has got to be the hackyist power buttons i have ever seen. its really cool though XD
L1205[11:54:07] <gamax92> I used to be able to run adlib tracker 2 on my machine, but now it just goes into garbled display mode and then machine reboots.
L1206[11:54:18] <gamax92> also, pressing reset on my machine corrupts the cmos.
L1207[11:54:20] <ShadowKatStudios> I mmust really suck at writing though, no-one seems to have noticed the part I tried to emphasize.
L1208[11:54:35] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty, yes, primitives and (nested) tables, no functions
L1209[11:54:47] <gamax92> ohai Sangar
L1210[11:54:53] <SpiritedDusty> thanks
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L1212[11:55:11] <ShadowKatStudios> SuPeRMiNoR2: I made something more permenant eventually out of a protoboard and sold the computer for $100
L1213[11:55:19] <gamax92> Sangar: I guess ping came up with 25M instructions per second.
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L1215[11:55:24] <Sangar> also, i remembered the other reason for time vs instructions. on could circumvent the timeout if it's purely instruction based, by recursively creating new coroutines.
L1216[11:55:29] <ping> hmm
L1217[11:55:35] <ping> perhaps its chaos derping
L1218[11:56:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmmm... Maybe I'm just too sarcastic to write anything serious.
L1219[11:56:52] ⇦ Quits: ping (~notPing@2601:4:4500:887:b11c:2fb7:a31:8bb8) (Client Quit)
L1220[11:56:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> what point are you trying to emphasize?
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L1222[11:57:28] <ping> good job
L1223[11:57:48] <ping> net i wanted to leave: chaos net it gave me: chaos
L1224[11:58:01] <Sangar> basically new coroutines would have to inherit the count hook from the one creating it, which it won't, so it has to be set, meaning it starts with the "full" count. and afaik there's no way of querying the current instruction count for a hook.
L1225[11:58:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Hint: Something unrelated to computers or school
L1226[11:58:57] <Sangar> sooo, unless someone can come up with a not excessively hacky way around that it'll stay a time based timeout.
L1227[12:00:06] <gamax92> wait, Sangar, when you make a coroutine from a couroutine, does it not have the same hook the first one did?
L1228[12:00:16] <ping> wait, when you create a coroutine within a coroutine, does that coroutine... dammit gamax
L1229[12:00:31] <nekosune> hmm now to see if this will count the tablet
L1230[12:00:49] <Sangar> gamax92, ping, nope, it has no hook at all
L1231[12:01:00] <ping> .lua coroutine.resume(coroutine.create(function() while true do end))
L1232[12:01:01] <^v> ping, lua:1: unexpected symbol near ')'
L1233[12:01:02] <gamax92> gah, i need to go check my emulator then.
L1234[12:01:08] <ping> .lua coroutine.resume(coroutine.create(function() while true do end end))
L1235[12:01:12] <ping> :|
L1236[12:01:13] <ping> yeah
L1237[12:01:19] <ping> brb sandbox fix :D
L1238[12:01:22] <Sangar> :D
L1239[12:01:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Yaay, I'm not terrible at writing non-sarcastic stuff :D
L1240[12:02:46] <gamax92> okay, I'll go check my emulator after the computer done with updates and video processing.
L1241[12:02:56] <nekosune> ... No BAD tablet of animation
L1242[12:03:06] <nekosune> it just used it's pick on the computer controlling it
L1243[12:03:11] <gamax92> Good ol TrustedInstaller taking up an entire core.
L1244[12:05:48] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, whats a LimitReachedException mean?
L1245[12:06:19] <SpiritedDusty> oh wait nvm
L1246[12:06:26] <vifino> I needs a beamer.
L1247[12:06:45] <vifino> They are fancy.
L1248[12:06:49] <gamax92> I need an new mobo
L1249[12:07:02] <gamax92> new mobo would allow me to use faster processor and non dead sata ports
L1250[12:07:02] <SpiritedDusty> gamax92, make one out of cardboard
L1251[12:07:12] <gamax92> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO
L1252[12:07:13] <Vexatos> Dangit
L1253[12:07:20] <nekosune> traitorous tablet
L1254[12:07:24] <Vexatos> I want to copy a folder of mine onto a Hard drive
L1255[12:07:27] <JoshTheEnder> make it out of cheese?
L1256[12:07:34] <Vexatos> But the folder is 9 million bytes large
L1257[12:07:35] <Vexatos> >____>
L1258[12:07:41] <Vexatos> So much data
L1259[12:07:51] <ShadowKatStudios> SpiritedDusty: Part of one of my computer cases was made of cardboard
L1260[12:08:03] <SpiritedDusty> 9 million bytes = 8.38gb
L1261[12:08:12] <gamax92> thats not that large.
L1262[12:08:44] <SpiritedDusty> yeah not really
L1263[12:09:12] <Vexatos> Well
L1264[12:09:17] <Vexatos> An OC hard drive, tier 3, holds 4
L1265[12:09:22] <Vexatos> So, yea, it is
L1266[12:09:28] <gamax92> oh, OC drives
L1267[12:09:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Ohai Josh, you're back. I wrote Chapter 2.
L1268[12:09:34] <Vexatos> .-.
L1269[12:09:45] <Vexatos> ShadowKatStudios, you're fast o.O
L1270[12:09:46] <JoshTheEnder> \o/
L1271[12:10:04] <gamax92> how many chapters per second can he write
L1272[12:10:10] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm tired. The more tired I am, the more I can write.
L1273[12:10:10] <SpiritedDusty> 0.00001
L1274[12:10:37] <ShadowKatStudios> That chapter was 5.5KiB, and I did it in about 30 minutes (After figuring out what would happpen)
L1275[12:10:55] <ShadowKatStudios> JoshTheEnder: http://shadowkatstudios.gweb.io/story-1/
L1276[12:11:06] <JoshTheEnder> already on it :)
L1277[12:17:16] <JoshTheEnder> damn you ShadowKatStudios, y u leave it on a cliffhanger :P
L1278[12:17:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Gotta keep the audience :D
L1279[12:18:46] <ShadowKatStudios> There'd be no reason to come back if the story in every chapter was resolved.
L1280[12:18:58] <Vexatos> This is VERY, really, VERY totally absolutely positively creepy as hell
L1281[12:19:14] <Vexatos> I would never have thought that a number could be this creepy
L1282[12:19:16] <Vexatos> And weird
L1283[12:20:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Which number? o.O
L1284[12:20:19] * Vexatos feels strange now
L1285[12:20:22] <Vexatos> <Empty2k12> oh do you have any mods yourself?
L1286[12:20:22] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> ?
L1287[12:20:22] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> What do you mean?
L1288[12:20:22] <Vexatos> <Empty2k12> mods you made yourself not contributed to? also do you know to how many mods you have contributed? when I browse github even the smallest unknown mods has translation from you... big props
L1289[12:20:22] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> Mods I made myself? None
L1290[12:20:23] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> Mods I contributed to?
L1291[12:20:25] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> Uhm
L1292[12:20:27] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> ....
L1293[12:20:29] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> Roughly 175
L1294[12:20:31] <Vexatos> This number
L1295[12:20:52] <Biohazard> lol
L1296[12:21:08] <Vexatos> One hundred seventy five
L1297[12:21:20] * Vexatos feels weird
L1298[12:21:30] <ping> dat spam
L1299[12:21:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I see nothing special about it, besides it being 7/8 of 200
L1300[12:22:20] <ping> .calc 25*7
L1301[12:22:21] <^v> ping, 175
L1302[12:22:56] <JoshTheEnder> ?help
L1303[12:22:56] <EnderBot> I can help you with: BlackKnight, opencomputers, opencomponents, OpenPrograms, ocforum, dev-builds, chanstats, 2048game, computronics,
L1304[12:22:56] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates
L1305[12:22:58] <Vexatos> ShadowKatStudios, how many people do you know which contributed to 175 mods or have 170 github and bitbucket repos?
L1306[12:23:00] <JoshTheEnder> ?chanstats
L1307[12:23:00] <EnderBot> Stats are provided by SuPeRMiNoR2: http://www.thatjoshgreen.me/superminor2/stats/oc.html
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L1309[12:23:21] <EnderBot> Added chanstats successfully
L1310[12:23:25] <JoshTheEnder> ?chanstats
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L1312[12:23:27] <JoshTheEnder> there
L1313[12:23:30] <ShadowKatStudios> It just means you're a helpful person. Something I'm not, congrats.
L1314[12:24:36] <Vexatos> http://coderstats.net/github/vexatos/ :D
L1315[12:25:37] <Vexatos> A rather weird hobby, though
L1316[12:25:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Helping out with open source mods?
L1317[12:25:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
L1318[12:34:59] <gamax92> Waht, i have a 47GB file called bootPrep_BASE+CSWITCH_2_km_premerge.etl
L1319[12:35:06] <gamax92> no wonder all my space went.
L1320[12:35:22] <ping> 47
L1321[12:35:26] <ping> why
L1322[12:35:31] <ping> does that keep popping up
L1323[12:35:36] <ping> 0x47 is 71
L1324[12:35:44] <ping> forever burnt into my head
L1325[12:36:53] <ping> because it took me waaaaaaaaaay too long to figure out why my program wasnt working http://esolangs.org/wiki/Barely
L1326[12:36:57] <ping> :( the specs were wrong
L1327[12:37:09] <gamax92> yay, its impossible to use my webbrowser,
L1328[12:37:14] <gamax92> thanks TrustedInstaller
L1329[12:37:22] <ping> lol
L1330[12:37:28] <ping> TrustedInstaller
L1331[12:38:41] <gamax92> oh, i was gonna generate an ALL THE THINGS picture regarding TrustedInstaller, but then i realized its taking up too much cpu to do that.
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L1334[12:40:06] <ping> gamax92, its probably litecoin mining
L1335[12:40:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I have a 6GB log file that I can't read
L1336[12:40:20] <gamax92> ping: can you go google what that bootPrep shit is?
L1337[12:40:47] <ShadowKatStudios> My computer doesn't even have 6GB of RAM hah
L1338[12:41:03] <ping> gamax92, its a logfile
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L1340[12:41:12] <gamax92> for?
L1341[12:41:13] <ping> malware probably spamming the shit out of it
L1342[12:41:30] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92, first result in google: BootPrep is a utility that enables FAT16-formatted media to boot Windows XP.
L1343[12:41:50] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder: Stop trying to be helpful
L1344[12:41:58] <JoshTheEnder> fine
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L1346[12:42:08] <ping> 2010/12/04-09:29:28.333] Starting trace...
L1347[12:42:09] <ping> [2010/12/04-09:29:28.365] Enabled boot logging to 'C:\Windows\system32\bootPrep_BASE+CSWITCH_2_km_premerge.etl'
L1348[12:42:14] <ShadowKatStudios> I should probably resolve that cliffhanger...
L1349[12:42:27] <gamax92> Oh god! that fucking boot trace that i did.
L1350[12:42:29] <gamax92> god dammit
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L1354[12:42:55] <JoshTheEnder|AFKDoingCollegeWo> aww
L1355[12:43:04] <ShadowKatStudios> rk?
L1356[12:43:05] *** JoshTheEnder|AFKDoingCollegeWo is now known as JoshTheEnder|Busy
L1357[12:43:10] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder|Busy: pls no,
L1358[12:43:14] <gamax92> my poor nick bar.
L1359[12:43:18] <SuPeRMiNoR2> error.nickOverflow
L1360[12:43:21] <ping> ._.
L1361[12:43:28] <ping> lol josh
L1362[12:43:33] <JoshTheEnder|Busy> it was ment to be 'JoshTheEnder|AFKDoingCollegeWorkOrSomething
L1363[12:43:36] <JoshTheEnder|Busy> '
L1364[12:43:46] <ping> thanks for reducing the space of text
L1365[12:43:59] *** JoshTheEnder|Busy is now known as JTE|Busy
L1366[12:44:01] <JTE|Busy> betteR?
L1367[12:44:02] <ping> i can almost see messages without scrolling!
L1368[12:44:04] <ping> gratz
L1369[12:44:05] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder|Busy: that would be even worse.
L1370[12:44:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Have you guys ever been up at like 4 am and suddenly decided you need to listen to music?
L1371[12:45:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> yes
L1372[12:45:11] <gamax92> I've done that
L1373[12:45:13] <gamax92> but at 1AM
L1374[12:45:14] <ShadowKatStudios> My headphones are in the loungeroom.
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L1376[12:46:10] <JTE|Busy> i have not, the only time i can recall being awake at 4am was when i was having a Stargate SG1 marathon
L1377[12:46:53] <JTE|Busy> woke up 7am on a friday morning and was watching stargate all the way till 3pm the next saturday
L1378[12:46:54] <ShadowKatStudios> :o You must sleep like- normal hours?
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L1380[12:47:08] <ping> cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: pl/asie/lib/block/BlockBase$Rotation
L1381[12:47:14] <ping> oh, forgot asie core
L1382[12:47:19] <asie> asielib
L1383[12:47:19] <gamax92> oh right, ping can you help me with 3D to 2D projection?
L1384[12:47:24] <asie> you need to update
L1385[12:47:33] <ping> gamax92, no
L1386[12:47:36] <gamax92> pls
L1387[12:47:43] <JTE|Busy> generally forced to, college starts at 9am on tuesday-thursday
L1388[12:48:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, that sucks. My sleep patterns are mostly inverted atm.
L1389[12:49:14] <JTE|Busy> if i had the freedom to sleep whenever, i'd probably adjust to a sleeping pattern similar to someone of a different timezone (i.e. SuPeRMiNoR2's timezone)
L1390[12:50:08] <ping> wдt
L1391[12:50:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> woooooo! go gmt -5
L1392[12:50:34] <gamax92> hmm, this predicts I'll wait another 20 minutes before my updates finish.
L1393[12:50:37] <gamax92> brb anime
L1394[12:50:49] <ping> ah yes, terminal fucking up unicode w╨┤t
L1395[12:50:57] <gamax92> lol ping
L1396[12:51:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> man. i need to resize my main hard drives partitions, but i dont want to turn off my computer :(
L1397[12:51:25] <gamax92> SuPeRMiNoR2: so don't?
L1398[12:51:52] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i might have too, only have 200 mb free space
L1399[12:51:58] <gamax92> wat, stone tablet
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L1401[12:52:09] <ShadowKatStudios_> I've put shit on most of the people I would show if I could...
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L1403[12:52:15] *** ShadowKatStudios_ is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L1404[12:52:24] <JTE|Busy> ?
L1405[12:52:28] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: but you use chatzilla
L1406[12:52:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I use chatzilla?
L1407[12:52:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes?
L1408[12:54:20] <gamax92> Don't you just love it when your dog stares at you, and growls when you want him to GTFO
L1409[12:54:40] <JTE|Busy> i dont have a dog
L1410[12:54:50] <JTE|Busy> i have a cat with 2 lives left
L1411[12:55:16] <gamax92> when the cat's lives hit 0, it will turn into a pheonix
L1412[13:00:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Ehh, 5 AM, I'll be back in the morning (hopefully with the next chapter! :D )
L1413[13:01:43] <JTE|Busy> ok
L1414[13:06:46] <ping> that moment
L1415[13:07:00] <ping> when you forget how to use your own API
L1416[13:08:14] *** SuPeRMiNoR2 is now known as SuPeRMiNoR2|away
L1417[13:15:51] <gamax92> oh i did and read my calculation wrong
L1418[13:15:57] <gamax92> i have 5 more minutes for updates.
L1419[13:17:21] <JTE|Busy> ping, or when you forget what your api can do
L1420[13:17:42] <ping> naw, i already know TCPNet's infinite power
L1421[13:17:51] <gamax92> tcpnet?
L1422[13:18:29] <JTE|Busy> ping's library for talking to computers which are far away via internet card / tcp
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L1424[13:23:43] <gamax92> lol, ntfs-3g has a program called getfattr and setfattr, for modifying file attributes.
L1425[13:23:59] <gamax92> yes, get fatter.
L1426[13:25:02] <gamax92> oh good, updates done.
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L1431[13:38:20] zsh sets mode: +v on Wobbo
L1432[13:39:16] <Wobbo> So, anything happening here?
L1433[13:41:01] <ping> not really
L1434[13:41:25] <^v> exept this :3
L1435[13:41:44] <Wobbo> More toying with your bot? :P
L1436[13:41:55] <^v> ive sucessfully made chatbox IRC
L1437[13:42:03] <^v> exept it uses TCPNet
L1438[13:42:09] <^v> which moi bot is connected to
L1439[13:42:29] <^v> http://puu.sh/8cDKC.png
L1440[13:43:14] <Wobbo> That is neat
L1441[13:43:31] <Wobbo> Place it on the forum!
L1442[13:43:31] <^v> asie, do you srip colors?
L1443[13:43:44] <^v> ill make a forum page for all my OpenPrograms :P
L1444[13:44:04] * JTE|Busy should stop procrastinating
L1445[13:44:30] <ping> §1i am blue!
L1446[13:44:44] <^v> aww yis http://puu.sh/8cDX7.png
L1447[13:44:57] <Michiyo> I need to post my printer on the OC Forums..
L1448[13:46:00] <^v> so, who wants me to render mandlebrot over 4 large screens?
L1449[13:47:38] <^v> the code thats doing this is literally 17 lines for server and 18 lines for client xD
L1450[13:51:54] <ping> test
L1451[13:52:09] * ping test
L1452[13:52:25] <ping> :D Colorz
L1453[13:55:38] <ping> dammit whars asie
L1454[13:59:49] *** TheEnderverse|NoClients is now known as TheEnderverse
L1455[14:01:00] <TheEnderverse> Well I'm bored, I'm using putty to connect to this bouncer and talk
L1456[14:01:11] <ping> \o/
L1457[14:01:17] <ping> wait wдt
L1458[14:01:43] <JTE|Busy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bxo6h3c2p1iuyqw/Screenshot%202014-04-17%2021.01.32.png
L1459[14:02:16] <ping> http://puu.sh/8cFkp.png
L1460[14:02:38] <TheEnderverse> Not sure how to do advanced stuff like /me
L1461[14:02:47] <gamax92> hey ping, what was the name of that one bootprep file?
L1462[14:03:37] <ping> .logmatch %.etl
L1463[14:03:37] <^v> ping, Total: 3, Random: <gamax92> Waht, i have a 47GB file called bootPrep_BASE+CSWITCH_2_km_premerge.etl
L1464[14:06:56] *** TheEnderverse is now known as TheEnderverse|NoClients
L1465[14:08:58] <ping> mandlebrot now on openprograms \o/
L1466[14:09:36] <JTE|Busy> what is mandlebrot?
L1467[14:10:07] <Wobbo> Nice ping!
L1468[14:10:20] <gamax92> update-grub thinks my windows 7 is windows 8
L1469[14:10:33] <Wobbo> JTE|Busy: a fractal
L1470[14:10:52] <gamax92> what is fractal
L1471[14:11:03] <JTE|Busy> gamax92, it's actually both, they use the same software, just tweaked
L1472[14:11:15] <gamax92> no its not, my windows 7 is not windows 8
L1473[14:11:55] <Wobbo> gamax92: Something you should look up on google images, it is hard to explain
L1474[14:12:03] <JTE|Busy> dafuq? someone registrered the nick JTE, f***ers
L1475[14:12:05] <gamax92> what is google images
L1476[14:12:29] <Wobbo> gamax92: Something you should google, hard to explain
L1477[14:12:32] *** JTE|Busy is now known as JoshTheEnder
L1478[14:12:54] <ping> -NickServ- Information on JTE (account JTE):
L1479[14:12:54] <ping> -NickServ- Registered : Mar 28 16:43:41 2005 (9 years, 3 weeks, 0 days, 19:29:06 ago)
L1480[14:12:54] <ping> -NickServ- Last addr : ~kitty@ool-457006a2.dyn.optonline.net
L1481[14:13:00] <ping> they had it for 9 years
L1482[14:13:02] <ping> :P
L1483[14:13:32] <gamax92> what is something you should google, hard to explain
L1484[14:13:33] * JoshTheEnder whish he could time travel
L1485[14:13:37] <ping> JoshTheEnder, how do you not whow what mandlebrot is
L1486[14:13:50] <JoshTheEnder> cause i pay fuck all attention?
L1487[14:13:52] <^v> http://puu.sh/8cs0i
L1488[14:13:53] <JoshTheEnder> :P
L1489[14:14:08] <gamax92> oh wait, is this jeopardy
L1490[14:14:09] <JoshTheEnder> looks cool
L1491[14:14:17] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92, what i meant was they both use the same boot software
L1492[14:14:30] <gamax92> "Something you should google, hard to explain" What is mandelbrot
L1493[14:15:01] <ping> .> for l1=1,10 do hook.queue("select") end
L1494[14:15:01] <^v> ping, nil
L1495[14:15:04] <ping> das better
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L1498[14:15:22] <^v> or not >_<
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L1500[14:15:30] <JoshTheEnder> cant to DCC, wont forward through bouncer
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L1502[14:15:41] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder: you tried to accept it? D:
L1503[14:15:52] <JoshTheEnder> no, i've tried before
L1504[14:15:52] <^v> it wont work for me either :P
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L1506[14:16:01] <Wobbo> gamax92: Just google it. A fractal is something you have to see
L1507[14:16:03] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder: well, have fun with a -1 sized file.
L1508[14:16:07] <gamax92> Wobbo: i know what it is.
L1509[14:17:22] <^v> JoshTheEnder, how are you in college and not know what a mandlebrot is?
L1510[14:17:41] <^v> ive known that since middle shool ._.
L1511[14:18:13] <ping> ping
L1512[14:18:14] <JoshTheEnder> because they dont teach that here AFAIK
L1513[14:18:27] <^v> .-. they dont teach math?
L1514[14:18:32] <gamax92> or art?
L1515[14:18:48] <^v> or physics?
L1516[14:18:50] <Wobbo> JoshTheEnder: A fractal is something you have to see. Google it
L1517[14:18:56] <JoshTheEnder> i googled it
L1518[14:18:59] <^v> http://puu.sh/8cs0i
L1519[14:19:05] <^v> eis mandlebork
L1520[14:19:14] <ping> or a set atleast
L1521[14:19:17] <ping> i gtg sewn
L1522[14:19:29] <Wobbo> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Fractal.html
L1523[14:19:37] <Nentify> ^v: How comes you get short puush urls D:
L1524[14:19:46] <Nentify> Mine are like
L1525[14:19:49] <Nentify> http://puu.sh/8cGFk/89ee23e7c8.png this long
L1526[14:19:50] <Wobbo> ping: they are going to cure your type problem? :P
L1527[14:20:05] <ping> well methinks they started reusing deleted puushes
L1528[14:20:08] <gamax92> You can download Minceraft Froge from Mozzarella FireFax
L1529[14:20:08] <ping> the names
L1530[14:20:21] <Nentify> Are all yours short?
L1531[14:20:30] <JoshTheEnder> yeah, they do clear them out after a while
L1532[14:20:36] <gamax92> ping, ^v, all short names.
L1533[14:20:39] <ping> wait
L1534[14:20:40] <Michiyo> my puushs are short too
L1535[14:20:45] <ping> all my puushes are short
L1536[14:20:47] <Nentify> I'm cursed :(
L1537[14:20:54] <ping> .ping Nentify
L1538[14:20:55] <^v> Ping reply from Nentify 0.5s
L1539[14:21:16] <Nentify> o.o
L1540[14:21:19] <gamax92> ahh, good ol grub, stupid windows boot manager.
L1541[14:21:31] <gamax92> well, i hate both.
L1542[14:21:40] <JoshTheEnder> .ping JoshTheEnder
L1543[14:21:41] <^v> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.51s
L1544[14:21:41] <gamax92> grub4dos was so much easier and simpler.
L1545[14:21:44] <JoshTheEnder> meh
L1546[14:21:51] <gamax92> .ping ^v
L1547[14:21:55] <gamax92> :'(
L1548[14:23:30] <Michiyo> .ping Michiyo
L1549[14:23:31] <^v> Ping reply from Michiyo 0.58s
L1550[14:23:40] <Michiyo> heh..
L1551[14:23:54] <Michiyo> to bad it doesn't report ctcp pings :P
L1552[14:24:13] <Michiyo> only 740.83 seconds today..
L1553[14:24:19] <JoshTheEnder> yeah, lol
L1554[14:24:25] <ping> http://puu.sh/8cH12.png
L1555[14:24:26] <ping> moar
L1556[14:24:48] <JoshTheEnder> .ctcp PING JoshTheEnder
L1557[14:24:51] <JoshTheEnder> meh
L1558[14:24:54] <Michiyo> http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/54- :D
L1559[14:24:56] <Wobbo> .ping Wobbo
L1560[14:24:57] <^v> Ping reply from Wobbo 0.56s
L1561[14:25:03] <ping> .ping
L1562[14:25:04] <^v> Ping reply from ping 0.48s
L1563[14:25:09] <ping> it automatically puts your name
L1564[14:25:13] <tgame14> .ping
L1565[14:25:14] <^v> Ping reply from tgame14 0.78s
L1566[14:25:18] <tgame14> oof
L1567[14:25:20] <tgame14> .ping
L1568[14:25:21] <^v> Ping reply from tgame14 0.67s
L1569[14:25:26] <tgame14> ye thats not great is it
L1570[14:25:36] <gamax92> .ping
L1571[14:25:37] <^v> Ping reply from gamax92 1.45s
L1572[14:25:40] <ping> stahp
L1573[14:25:42] <gamax92> oh ofc
L1574[14:25:43] <Michiyo> o_O
L1575[14:25:46] <JoshTheEnder> .ping
L1576[14:25:47] <^v> Ping reply from JoshTheEnder 0.35s
L1577[14:25:50] <gamax92> my ping is the worse apparently
L1578[14:25:51] <Dean4Code> .ping
L1579[14:25:51] <ping> ^v isnt a ping machine
L1580[14:25:52] <^v> Ping reply from Dean4Code 0.64s
L1581[14:26:04] <gamax92> winblows, why did you reboot D:
L1582[14:26:11] <tgame14> well it uses a CTCP request, so not really accurate :/
L1583[14:26:13] <Michiyo> .whois pingbot
L1584[14:26:13] <^v> Oh noes! http://hastebin.com/vutohorori.txt plugins/whois.lua:10: bad argument #1 to '(for generator)' (table expected, got nil)
L1585[14:26:20] <Michiyo> :P
L1586[14:26:28] <Michiyo> was shooting for a whois support too :P
L1587[14:26:37] <JoshTheEnder> .whois Michiyo
L1588[14:26:38] <^v> Oh noes! http://hastebin.com/finawerali.txt plugins/whois.lua:10: bad argument #1 to '(for generator)' (table expected, got nil)
L1589[14:26:42] <JoshTheEnder> well ok then
L1590[14:26:45] <gamax92> .whois ERROR
L1591[14:26:45] <^v> Oh noes! http://hastebin.com/cepepoguti.txt plugins/whois.lua:10: bad argument #1 to '(for generator)' (table expected, got nil)
L1592[14:26:49] <tgame14> .lua print("test")
L1593[14:26:50] <^v> tgame14, test | nil
L1594[14:26:50] <ping> http://puu.sh/8cHby.png
L1595[14:26:53] <tgame14> wat
L1596[14:26:58] <Michiyo> tgame14, if it used CTCP, it'd report my ping in the 700 second range
L1597[14:27:08] <ping> it does use CTCP
L1598[14:27:13] <tgame14> Michiyo, it does, i have a packet monitor right next to me :P
L1599[14:27:15] <gamax92> ping: it reminds me in fractant
L1600[14:27:18] <ping> if you want to test ^v go to #ocbots, dont spam it here
L1601[14:27:18] <gamax92> me of*
L1602[14:27:22] <Michiyo> then why does it report .5 seconds?
L1603[14:27:38] <tgame14> it reports 0.00
L1604[14:27:41] <ping> .-. what makes CTCPs slower?
L1605[14:27:41] <tgame14> .ping
L1606[14:27:43] <^v> Ping reply from tgame14 1.14s
L1607[14:27:45] <tgame14> see?
L1608[14:27:48] <ping> tgame14, for fuck sake
L1609[14:27:54] <Michiyo> [15:27:48] »» Ping reply from Michiyo: 966.08 second(s)
L1610[14:27:54] <tgame14> ping, relax
L1611[14:27:59] <tgame14> holy crap
L1612[14:28:02] <ping> wow
L1613[14:28:02] <tgame14> :P
L1614[14:28:09] <tgame14> youve done wrong son :P
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L1616[14:28:12] <Michiyo> [15:28:07] »» Ping reply from Michiyo: 985.04 second(s)
L1617[14:28:12] zsh sets mode: +v on Maxwolf
L1618[14:28:15] <ping> gamax92 …
L1619[14:28:20] <Michiyo> Which is a CTCP reply
L1620[14:28:21] <gamax92> sorry, i got it wrong
L1621[14:28:21] <ping> YOU DID NOT JUST
L1622[14:28:33] <ping> GAMAX OF ALL THE PEOPLE TO FAIL AT CTCP
L1623[14:28:34] <gamax92> ooh, 1008 seconds.
L1624[14:28:39] <Wobbo> Michiyo: does the printer word wrap automatically?
L1625[14:28:44] <gamax92> Michiyo: maybe it calculates the time itself.
L1626[14:28:52] <Michiyo> Wobbo, no
L1627[14:28:57] <Michiyo> I might make that a option..
L1628[14:29:11] <Wobbo> Since there is a center option
L1629[14:29:11] <Michiyo> op.wordwrap(true) to enable word wrap for a page..
L1630[14:29:32] <gamax92> ping: deal with it bro
L1631[14:29:56] <ping> well then
L1632[14:30:00] <ping> i gtg
L1633[14:30:09] <gamax92> :D
L1634[14:30:32] <Sangar> Michiyo, make something like postscript :>
L1635[14:30:33] <Michiyo> Also, enter *may* be broken, I'm not 100% sure :P
L1636[14:30:56] <gamax92> Sangar: oh i just remembered, OC still hates ati drivers.
L1637[14:30:58] <ping> http://puu.sh/8cHuW.png more
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L1639[14:31:33] <Sangar> gamax92, i have a new lead on that, will look into it tomorrow / over the weekend.
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L1641[14:32:03] *** SuPeRMiNoR2|away is now known as SuPeRMiNoR2
L1642[14:32:06] <Kenny|Coding> gamax92: does it occur on a tier3 screen?
L1643[14:32:06] <gamax92> and, winblows reboots again after doing more updates!
L1644[14:32:17] <Michiyo> Postscript huh.. lol
L1645[14:32:27] *** RedstoneFlux is now known as Anonymous
L1646[14:32:46] <Kenny|Coding> JZTech, quit trying to hide
L1647[14:32:47] <gamax92> I don't know, all I remember was dicking around with OC, and then i restarted mc and then instant crash.
L1648[14:32:56] <Michiyo> I want to oneday look at vector graphics... but not now.
L1649[14:33:01] <Anonymous> Kenny|Coding: I am not hiding
L1650[14:33:09] <Anonymous> Kenny|Coding: changing my nick != hiding
L1651[14:33:10] <gamax92> Michiyo: help me with projecting 3D to 2D?
L1652[14:33:11] <Kenny|Coding> if it is a tier3 screen reduce the resolution to 160x30
L1653[14:33:21] <Michiyo> gamax92, errr, if I knew how? :D
L1654[14:33:21] <Anonymous> it is so fuckin' obvious who I am. >_>
L1655[14:33:28] <gamax92> Kenny|Coding: but see, Open world = crash.
L1656[14:33:34] <gamax92> so, I'd love to do that.
L1657[14:33:36] <Kenny|Coding> component.gpu.setResolution(160,30)
L1658[14:33:47] <gamax92> Kenny|Coding: I don't think you understand
L1659[14:33:51] <gamax92> open world
L1660[14:33:52] <gamax92> =
L1661[14:33:53] <gamax92> crash
L1662[14:34:00] <Kenny|Coding> damn
L1663[14:34:06] <Wobbo> Sangar: I would prefer something lik Tex, could also use it for man pages :P
L1664[14:34:23] <gamax92> if it does open, then OC works just fine and never crashes.
L1665[14:34:37] <Sangar> Wobbo, that was my first thought, too, but i'm pretty sure printers don't do tex natively?
L1666[14:34:37] *** Anonymous is now known as RedstoneFlux
L1667[14:34:39] <gamax92> but it seems to break somewhere when the world saves.
L1668[14:34:45] <Wobbo> Sangar: True
L1669[14:34:45] <Kenny|Coding> and JZ, you changed your nick to RedstoneFlux a long time back so people would forget you were even in here
L1670[14:34:56] <Michiyo> lol TeX...
L1671[14:34:57] <Maxwolf> RedstoneFlux is JZ?
L1672[14:35:01] <Kenny|Coding> yes
L1673[14:35:05] <Maxwolf> NIce, thanks for info
L1674[14:35:08] <RedstoneFlux> *sigh*
L1675[14:35:09] <gamax92> lol
L1676[14:35:17] <Wobbo> Sangar: TeX goes to dvi, which goes to postscript I believe. But maybe printers can use dvi.
L1677[14:35:30] <Wobbo> Nowadays everything just goes to pdf directly anyway :P
L1678[14:35:41] <Michiyo> It's open source.. if anyone wants to look at my horrid code and add features, by all means do so! :P
L1679[14:35:43] <RedstoneFlux> Kenny|Coding: meh. I'm not hiding. I openly say who I am when asked
L1680[14:35:45] <RedstoneFlux> lol
L1681[14:35:50] <Maxwolf> lol
L1682[14:35:55] <Maxwolf> Says the guy that changesd his name
L1683[14:36:01] <RedstoneFlux> Because I got bored of it
L1684[14:36:09] <Maxwolf> Yeah people do that all the time
L1685[14:36:11] <Kenny|Coding> do you see me changing my niock to hide?
L1686[14:36:11] <Maxwolf> :D
L1687[14:36:16] <Kenny|Coding> nick*
L1688[14:36:19] <RedstoneFlux> Kenny|Coding: I'm NOT hiding
L1689[14:36:26] <RedstoneFlux> GEEZ FUCKING CHRIST.
L1690[14:36:28] <Kenny|Coding> i call bs
L1691[14:36:37] <RedstoneFlux> Fine. Believe whatever you want
L1692[14:36:37] <Wobbo> Sangar: Actually, a language that uses lua functions but looks like tex should be doable I guess…
L1693[14:36:38] <Maxwolf> Yeah I call bs I am with Kenny on this one
L1694[14:36:43] <gamax92> Michiyo: local newX = vanishingPointX + x * focal_length / z
L1695[14:36:51] <RedstoneFlux> lovely. >_>
L1696[14:37:00] <Michiyo> gamax92, mkaaay?
L1697[14:37:05] <gamax92> problem with that, is if z is 0, division by 0, and if z is negative, then the 3D points completly flip across the screen.
L1698[14:37:28] <Sangar> Wobbo, that could be interesting. who will code it, though? :P
L1699[14:37:54] <Wobbo> Sangar: Not me, no time :P Have to work with real (La)TeX :P
L1700[14:38:00] <RedstoneFlux> Maxwolf: if it was so called BS, I have one question. Why am I not in #calclavia?
L1701[14:38:23] <RedstoneFlux> If I was hiding, then, I would enter the channel
L1702[14:38:28] <tgame14> you are banned
L1703[14:38:31] <tgame14> ip - banned
L1704[14:38:31] <RedstoneFlux> by nick
L1705[14:38:33] <tgame14> i made sure of it :P
L1706[14:38:35] <RedstoneFlux> no not IP
L1707[14:38:36] <gamax92> yay, and that fucking bootprep file is back!
L1708[14:38:37] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenPrinter Please rip it to shreds, yell at me about it, and feel free to PR too :P
L1709[14:38:46] <gamax92> but, 27MB's is nicer than 47GB
L1710[14:38:48] <RedstoneFlux> tgame14: it was changed? lol
L1711[14:39:04] <RedstoneFlux> anywho, lets just say, if I wanted to change my identity is easy. I just don't care enoguh too
L1712[14:39:07] <RedstoneFlux> it doesn't matter.
L1713[14:39:09] <tgame14> im pretty sure it is
L1714[14:39:19] <Michiyo> no matching +b
L1715[14:39:23] <Michiyo> except his nick
L1716[14:39:39] <RedstoneFlux> nope. Not IPbanned.
L1717[14:39:39] <tgame14> hrm, i wonder how do i see flags in a channel
L1718[14:39:41] <Michiyo> you could always $a ban, which would get the NS account
L1719[14:39:41] <RedstoneFlux> lol
L1720[14:39:47] <RedstoneFlux> tgame14: !flags
L1721[14:40:07] <Kenny|Coding> !flags
L1722[14:40:13] <tgame14> ah, you are not ip - banned
L1723[14:40:18] <RedstoneFlux> Michiyo: akick is better
L1724[14:40:24] <Kenny|Coding> !flags tgame14 +r
L1725[14:40:25] -ChanServ- Kenny|Coding (Kenny) set flags +r on tgame14.
L1726[14:40:32] <tgame14> what does +r do?
L1727[14:40:36] <Michiyo> arrrr
L1728[14:40:38] <RedstoneFlux> allows !kick !kickban
L1729[14:40:41] <JoshTheEnder> y'rrrr
L1730[14:40:42] <RedstoneFlux> oh and !ban
L1731[14:40:43] <Kenny|Coding> gives you the ability to kick ban
L1732[14:40:48] <tgame14> ah nice
L1733[14:40:50] <Maxwolf> Yeah you are not allowed in there I think
L1734[14:40:52] <JoshTheEnder> I am a pirate
L1735[14:40:56] <Maxwolf> That is why you are not in there
L1736[14:41:00] <tgame14> :P
L1737[14:41:08] <Wobbo> JoshTheEnder: Pirate Party for president!
L1738[14:41:08] <RedstoneFlux> Maxwolf: If I was trying to hide my identity, then I would be in there
L1739[14:41:10] <RedstoneFlux> lol
L1740[14:41:20] <Maxwolf> Uhg go awawy
L1741[14:41:29] <Maxwolf> I just wanted to know who it was
L1742[14:41:30] <Maxwolf> Now I know
L1743[14:41:36] <Maxwolf> I will just track your hostname now
L1744[14:41:38] <Maxwolf> ;)
L1745[14:41:47] <RedstoneFlux> feel free.
L1746[14:41:50] <RedstoneFlux> idfc
L1747[14:41:56] <gamax92> excuse me windows update, who said you could change your settings.
L1748[14:42:03] <RedstoneFlux> gamax92: microsoft
L1749[14:42:07] <RedstoneFlux> youre fault for not using linux
L1750[14:42:15] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92, WindowsUpdate: "i did..."
L1751[14:42:18] <gamax92> RedstoneFlux: Shut the fuck up nobody asked you.
L1752[14:42:31] <SpiritedDusty> shots fired
L1753[14:42:34] <RedstoneFlux> lol
L1754[14:42:39] <gamax92> I can't use linux, the wifi doesn't work properly.
L1755[14:42:44] <tgame14> why avoid using your name JZ
L1756[14:42:47] <RedstoneFlux> SpiritedDusty: you sound like my high school friends
L1757[14:42:49] <tgame14> and instead steal a power unit ? :P
L1758[14:42:51] <RedstoneFlux> "shots fired..."
L1759[14:43:00] <RedstoneFlux> tgame14: I got bored of it.
L1760[14:43:07] <RedstoneFlux> lol
L1761[14:43:08] <tgame14> bored of a nickname?
L1762[14:43:11] <RedstoneFlux> yes
L1763[14:43:16] <RedstoneFlux> its possible after a year
L1764[14:43:29] <tgame14> ive had my nickname on various platforms for about 5 years
L1765[14:43:34] <tgame14> was never an issue to m
L1766[14:43:35] <RedstoneFlux> so have I
L1767[14:43:35] <tgame14> me*
L1768[14:43:44] <RedstoneFlux> "JZTech101" is everywhere
L1769[14:44:02] <tgame14> maybe because you were banned over pretty much half of esper
L1770[14:44:03] <tgame14> :)
L1771[14:44:17] <RedstoneFlux> lolno. I changed my nick elsewhere too
L1772[14:44:26] <RedstoneFlux> Not just here. on ElectroCode and OVerDrive
L1773[14:44:33] <RedstoneFlux> Zero bans there I might add
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L1775[14:45:40] <tgame14> why steal TE3's power unit though?
L1776[14:47:14] <Maxwolf> Nice to see you attitude has not changed
L1777[14:47:42] <Kenny|Coding> You know i see he seems to think he is above anyone else
L1778[14:47:48] *** Kenny|Coding is now known as Kenny
L1779[14:47:57] <Maxwolf> RedstoneFlux the phrase "Treat others how you would like to be treated" comes to mind.
L1780[14:48:42] <Kenny> the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
L1781[14:49:00] <RedstoneFlux> tgame14: random choice
L1782[14:49:10] <Maxwolf> I thought the golden rule was "dont run in the hallway" ;P
L1783[14:49:13] <Maxwolf> Ehehehe
L1784[14:49:23] <Kenny> lol
L1785[14:49:32] <RedstoneFlux> Maxwolf: and that is apparently not how Esper works. I treat people exactly how I expect them to treat me
L1786[14:49:47] <JoshTheEnder> like an arsehole?
L1787[14:49:50] <Maxwolf> ^
L1788[14:50:24] <gamax92> I don't think Esper enforces or has a rule like that.
L1789[14:50:31] <Kenny> !kickban 176.9.51.57
L1790[14:50:40] <tgame14> not sure that works
L1791[14:50:43] <Kenny> !kickban RedstoneFlux
L1792[14:50:43] *** RedstoneFlux was kicked by zsh ((Kenny) No reason given))
L1793[14:50:45] <gamax92> that doesn't work.
L1794[14:50:50] <JoshTheEnder> that did
L1795[14:50:50] <Kenny> that does
L1796[14:50:51] <tgame14> why was that :O
L1797[14:51:07] <Maxwolf> There problem solved
L1798[14:51:17] <Kenny> i was kiknd of tired of his shit and nothing he does is constructive
L1799[14:51:27] <Kenny> !op
L1800[14:51:27] zsh sets mode: +o on Kenny
L1801[14:51:39] <Maxwolf> It was the same story over in Calc's channel
L1802[14:51:48] <tgame14> worse
L1803[14:51:50] <gamax92> Yay, I've rid of the bootPref logger that was left.
L1804[14:51:51] <Maxwolf> Nothing constructive, no coding, just whining and blaming others
L1805[14:51:56] <gamax92> Thanks microsoft, your tool is great.
L1806[14:51:58] <Kenny> this isn';t the first time he has done this here
L1807[14:52:18] <Kenny> that was why i called him on changing nicks to hide
L1808[14:52:30] <Kenny> he had just changed it to Anonymous
L1809[14:52:47] <Maxwolf> Yeah when you said that it was him I checked hostname, now his name is hot pink in Hexchat all the time :P
L1810[14:52:49] <Kenny> when i called him on it he changed back to the Redstone nick
L1811[14:52:53] <Maxwolf> Hostname flag ftw
L1812[14:53:35] <Kenny> being an ass was one thing, but he decided top[ick on two dev guests in this channel.....
L1813[14:53:47] <Kenny> i don't go for that for long
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L1815[14:53:54] <Kenny> !deop
L1816[14:53:55] zsh sets mode: -o on Kenny
L1817[14:53:59] <Archtikz> Kenny XD
L1818[14:54:05] <Archtikz> DId you just ban RedstoneFlux?
L1819[14:54:11] <Archtikz> I just want to know
L1820[14:54:14] *** Archtikz is now known as Archadia
L1821[14:54:15] <tgame14> no
L1822[14:54:17] <tgame14> he kickbaned
L1823[14:54:18] <Archadia> Aww
L1824[14:54:21] <Archadia> Brilliant
L1825[14:54:24] <Archadia> Good job kenny XD
L1826[14:54:25] <Maxwolf> Yeah he was in here running his mouth
L1827[14:54:34] <Maxwolf> He cannot play nice with others
L1828[14:54:43] <Kenny> hi, Archadia :)
L1829[14:54:45] <Archadia> Maxwolf: He's SOP on my channel XD
L1830[14:54:48] <JoshTheEnder> dont bite off more than you can chew
L1831[14:54:54] <Archadia> Anyway
L1832[14:55:03] <tgame14> Archadia, how the hell?
L1833[14:55:08] <Archadia> I trust him.
L1834[14:55:17] <JoshTheEnder> really?
L1835[14:55:18] <Maxwolf> Yeah I know you complained when we banned him outta Calc
L1836[14:55:21] <Archadia> And hes never pissed me off. Yet seems to piss everyone else he knows off.
L1837[14:55:26] <Kenny> he is rude and disrespectful
L1838[14:55:33] <tgame14> he treats people like shit
L1839[14:55:39] <Archadia> Haha
L1840[14:55:40] <Kenny> and this wasn't his first incident in here
L1841[14:55:44] <Maxwolf> Yeah we should not have to defend our decision to you, trust us when we say he is terrible person
L1842[14:55:48] <Archadia> I did maxwolf
L1843[14:56:10] <Archadia> anyway I'm off
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L1845[14:56:16] <Kenny> l8r
L1846[14:56:17] <Maxwolf> Peace
L1847[14:56:39] <Kenny> i can be a straight ass when necessary though i try not to be
L1848[14:56:59] <Kenny> generally i try to help people and keep spirits up
L1849[14:57:03] <Maxwolf> ditto
L1850[14:57:07] <Dashkal> oh, so that's who RedstoneFlux was. I thought the attitde sounded familiar...
L1851[14:57:12] <Kenny> but guiys like him i can only take for so long
L1852[14:57:15] <tgame14> !flags
L1853[14:57:22] <tgame14> Aha! i understand
L1854[14:57:31] <tgame14> now i get what flag does what in this stupid esper
L1855[14:57:32] <gamax92> Who here has an EFI capable machibe?
L1856[14:57:35] <JoshTheEnder> RedstoneFlux aka jztech101 (or something like that
L1857[14:57:37] <JoshTheEnder> me
L1858[14:57:38] <Kenny> you have to have access to see flags thru zsh
L1859[14:57:40] <JoshTheEnder> i think
L1860[14:57:57] <Kenny> what's a machibe?
L1861[14:58:00] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny, zsh is just a frontend to chanserv
L1862[14:58:04] <JoshTheEnder> !flags
L1863[14:58:06] <JoshTheEnder> aw
L1864[14:58:06] <Kenny> i kmnow that
L1865[14:58:06] <gamax92> a shibe machine
L1866[14:58:24] <Wobbo> gamax92: I do.
L1867[14:58:36] <Maxwolf> gamax92, same here
L1868[14:58:54] <gamax92> Hmm, I don't
L1869[14:59:29] <Maxwolf> It is newer system to manage hardware on the machine
L1870[14:59:38] <Maxwolf> Older stuff is called BIOS
L1871[14:59:39] <Kenny> and JZ doesn't realize i have Founder status in #OpenPrograms lol
L1872[14:59:48] <gamax92> Maxwolf: asking if others have efi doesn't imply i don't know what efi or bios is.
L1873[15:00:05] <Maxwolf> I didn't say it like that just trying to help o.o
L1874[15:00:09] <Maxwolf> My bad :D
L1875[15:00:28] <Kenny> gamax92: hius statement was beneficial to me as i didn't know that
L1876[15:00:37] <gamax92> u wot
L1877[15:00:47] <Kenny> and i still refer to it has BIOS or CMOS
L1878[15:01:05] <Maxwolf> Yeah old habits die hard, still catch myself calling it BIOS
L1879[15:01:36] <Kenny> when you have been thru the major portion of the copmputer revolution you tend to keep using this old terms hehe
L1880[15:01:57] <Kenny> the ol;d CGA cards hehe
L1881[15:01:58] <Maxwolf> What you working on gamax92 ?
L1882[15:02:15] <gamax92> downloading a 27GB collection of tracker music.
L1883[15:02:17] <gamax92> then more updates.
L1884[15:02:30] <gamax92> possibly updating linux mint
L1885[15:02:41] <gamax92> oh, and finding a better way to convert 3D points to 2D points.
L1886[15:03:22] <gamax92> GAH, that moment when you realize you've been DL rate limiting.
L1887[15:03:52] <Maxwolf> Sounds like a good day then, though the EFI thing would have been related to something you was working on.
L1888[15:03:56] <Maxwolf> *thought
L1889[15:04:01] <gamax92> well it was something i was working on.
L1890[15:04:21] <gamax92> my friend was trying to install ubuntu on his machine, and it would show the entire drive as free space.
L1891[15:04:36] <gamax92> well, turns out the drive was using mbr, and had a blank gpt.
L1892[15:05:21] <gamax92> so, removed the gpt, and then it installed. Well grub wouldn't show up. Tried for like 2 hours to get the grub to work under efi, and eventually just put the normal non efi grub2 on there.
L1893[15:07:38] <Maxwolf> Nice, then it started talking to everything and behaving proper?
L1894[15:07:52] <gamax92> yeah, it works fine now.
L1895[15:07:58] <gamax92> just, that hickup in the beginning
L1896[15:08:12] <Maxwolf> Aye different between grub and grub2 I guess
L1897[15:08:17] <Maxwolf> I didn't even know that
L1898[15:08:22] <gamax92> erm, sorry. Both are grub2
L1899[15:08:30] <gamax92> but the efi version of it was installed, and didn't work
L1900[15:08:47] <Maxwolf> Ah okies when I first read it thought to was using older version and updated
L1901[15:09:06] <Katie> o/ Max
L1902[15:09:34] <Maxwolf> Hello Katie, nice to see you in here :)
L1903[15:09:40] <Katie> hows it going
L1904[15:10:03] <Maxwolf> Ah good day here! Messing with code and was playing bunch of MC last few days, got a nice build going!
L1905[15:10:31] <Katie> cool
L1906[15:12:30] <gamax92> I wonder why guides will sometimes say "Only recommended for people who are familiar with X" but then describe how to use X for people who wouldn't be familiar
L1907[15:12:50] <Katie> ikr
L1908[15:12:56] <Wobbo> XD
L1909[15:14:13] <tgame14> Kenny, you took over RiM right?
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L1911[15:25:23] <Kenny> i started to
L1912[15:25:53] <Kenny> then Planet Guy had started doiing it and was updating to 1.7 so i kind of dropped it
L1913[15:26:44] <Kenny> but i'm working my way through VSWE's tutorial and i may just go back and take it back up again and do a total re-write
L1914[15:27:28] <Kenny> i still have it on git and Michiyo set the files up in folders and did imports on it
L1915[15:27:40] <Kenny> so it's a little easier to work with now
L1916[15:28:06] <Kenny> but it still has the same issue as before. either base edits to make private variables visible or do reflection
L1917[15:28:32] <tgame14> Vswe's tutorails are really nice
L1918[15:28:34] <tgame14> what got me started
L1919[15:29:01] <Michiyo> I've gotta port OpenPrinter to 1.7 now
L1920[15:30:27] <Kenny> saw the branch of OP :)
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L1922[15:31:24] <tgame14> his tutorials are really great
L1923[15:31:32] <tgame14> but mostly, you need to enjoy it
L1924[15:31:59] <Kenny> i like the way he does it.
L1925[15:32:11] <Kenny> and i actually do enjoy them
L1926[15:32:51] <Kenny> would like to download the series but it would take me 15 mins per video to get it in the good quality and my dl speed sucks
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L1928[15:33:03] <Kenny> here comes ping
L1929[15:33:35] <JoshTheEnder> i would try following them but my problem is if theres something i dont understand my brain is like "AVOID IT!" and the fact that i get bored easily
L1930[15:34:04] <Kenny> the way he does i have no trouble understanding what is going on
L1931[15:34:10] <Kenny> it i*
L1932[15:34:33] <Kenny> and he explains things that might be hard to understand
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L1934[15:35:01] <JoshTheEnder> also java confuses me though i think that's due to my brains natural respons of "stick to something you know"
L1935[15:35:30] <Kenny> Josj, when i graduated College OOP programming was just a concept
L1936[15:35:34] <Kenny> Josh*
L1937[15:35:52] <Kenny> i'm 57 (almost) and i'm learning java
L1938[15:36:13] <Kenny> i know nothing of OOP programming or java for that matter
L1939[15:36:17] <Wobbo> JoshTheEnder: Try learning Lisp or Objective C. I had that first too, but I just pushed myself through it and now I quite like it.
L1940[15:36:25] <Kenny> java didn't exist when i was in college
L1941[15:36:56] <JoshTheEnder> your brain is less... fidgety... when i get bored mine is like "Ohh fly....."
L1942[15:37:03] <Kenny> all these Visual languages didn't exist. hell Windows was just coming out
L1943[15:37:17] *** Sorroko is now known as Sorroko_Off
L1944[15:37:27] <Kenny> Josh, i'm Adult ADD, don't use that as an excuse
L1945[15:37:37] <Wobbo> JoshTheEnder: The first time I saw either Objective-C, Lua or Lisp, I didn’t know how fast I could close the window. Now I know all three languages :P
L1946[15:37:55] <Kenny> I'm leasrning java and Lua
L1947[15:38:22] <JoshTheEnder> i have ADD/ADHD too Kenny
L1948[15:38:32] <Kenny> trying to learn how to mod and i'm at an age where most other people don't even think of gaming
L1949[15:38:57] <Kenny> i dind't start gaming till i was just past 50
L1950[15:39:44] <Kenny> when the coding starts to frustrate me, i go see how many cops i can run off the road hehe
L1951[15:39:46] <tgame14> OOP is nice
L1952[15:40:05] <tgame14> very nice
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L1954[15:41:39] <Kenny> i've never coded in java yet in the time before i got knocked offline and now i've updated 8 mods
L1955[15:41:46] <Maxwolf> Kenny, rise above man. SCIENCE
L1956[15:42:03] <gamax92> Kenny: you've written 8 mods or updated 8 mods?
L1957[15:42:16] <Kenny> running the cops off the road is playing NFS: Most Wanted 2012 hehe
L1958[15:42:21] <Kenny> updatedd 8 mods
L1959[15:42:26] <tgame14> nice
L1960[15:42:42] <Kenny> yet i have never written a line of java
L1961[15:42:56] <Kenny> wild isn't it hehe
L1962[15:42:57] <tgame14> OOP is a concept, once you master that, syntax is then just syntax :)
L1963[15:43:06] <Maxwolf> ^
L1964[15:43:19] <Kenny> OOP isn't an issue for me, my ADD is lol
L1965[15:43:31] <Maxwolf> Once you realize everrything is an object and it's turtles all the way down you can work with that on any platform or IDE.
L1966[15:43:35] <tgame14> i also have ADHD, don't worry :)
L1967[15:43:39] <tgame14> you are not alone
L1968[15:43:56] <Kenny> hey, not talking about turtles here, it's ROBOTS hehe
L1969[15:44:10] <Maxwolf> Cylons allt he way down
L1970[15:44:11] <Maxwolf> OH GOD
L1971[15:44:36] <tgame14> though when i code, like magic i am focused and working
L1972[15:45:57] <Maxwolf> Yeah when I get into the groove and I have a method that works I will do like 20+ hour binges
L1973[15:46:05] <Maxwolf> Hard to put something down once it's working
L1974[15:46:11] <Kenny> tgame14: you asked about RIM, i forked PlanetGuy's repo. check this code for RiM out: https://github.com/BigRenegade/RemainInMotion
L1975[15:46:32] <Kenny> you will see why it was so damn confusing for me
L1976[15:46:49] <Kenny> i'm the same way when the code starts to flow
L1977[15:46:56] <tgame14> lol i can sit without moving anything for a very long time
L1978[15:47:04] <tgame14> my record is 36 hours, no piss breaks
L1979[15:47:53] <tgame14> Well, i did take piss breaks don't think otherwise :P
L1980[15:48:11] <Kenny> i was working at a job doing some coding back in 98. i went in to work on Fri, started at 8am and brought the code holme with me, went back into work Mon at 8am handed the code in at 2pm. i had been coding all weekend long, no sleep
L1981[15:48:22] <Maxwolf> one of us, one of us, one of us ;)
L1982[15:48:26] <tgame14> :P
L1983[15:48:49] <Kenny> over 60 hours straight coding
L1984[15:49:03] <Maxwolf> Those are the best days man, especially when at the end you finish it and it's working
L1985[15:49:11] <Maxwolf> Worst days are when you do that and it's still broken
L1986[15:49:16] <Maxwolf> Wake up and remember it's still broken
L1987[15:50:09] <Kenny> Max, you kind of saw what i'm best at with MS. I'm better at helping debug a program than writing one
L1988[15:50:42] <Maxwolf> Yeah you did nail exactly what it was and we fixed it together, true that man.
L1989[15:50:51] <tgame14> night
L1990[15:50:54] <Maxwolf> Night!
L1991[15:50:56] <Kenny> nite tgame14
L1992[15:51:22] <Kenny> and you aren't the first thta i have helped find an issue.....
L1993[15:51:33] <Kenny> and \yet i know nothing of the java language lol
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L1995[15:52:23] <Kenny> i've been told the reason i can do debugging so well is that i don't thjink logically
L1996[15:52:40] <Kenny> which i guess is right hehe
L1997[15:53:32] <Kenny> and may be the reason i have had trouoble when writing code. I can't think in logical steps writing the code
L1998[15:53:53] <Maxwolf> The best explanation I ever saw for coding was actually from a professor
L1999[15:54:35] <Maxwolf> He had all first year coders write down in numbered steps the steps required to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. The operator reading the instructions had to follow them EXACTLY, nothing could be assumed.
L2000[15:54:42] <Maxwolf> The results where so laughable
L2001[15:54:55] <Maxwolf> Such a mess but it showed visually why details matter
L2002[15:55:00] <Maxwolf> Also very funny
L2003[15:55:08] <Kenny> i would imagine lol
L2004[15:55:44] <Maxwolf> "Ex put jelly on the bread" but no steps about taking it out of the bag, so not jelly is all over the bag of bread
L2005[15:55:46] <Maxwolf> Stuff like that
L2006[15:55:53] <Maxwolf> Just pure sillyness
L2007[15:56:21] <Kenny> lol
L2008[15:57:49] <Kenny> was there even a step for getting the bread down first hehe
L2009[15:58:09] <Maxwolf> In that persons circumstance nope, they just assumed you would take it out of the bag
L2010[15:58:29] <Maxwolf> That is what the exercise teaches is the need to pay attention to details even those which you take for granted
L2011[15:58:43] <Kenny> very true
L2012[15:59:03] <Kenny> i still don't know how i passed my Logic class lol
L2013[15:59:09] <Maxwolf> Locate bread, verify there is enough bread, take out 2 slices, close bread, prepare bread for sandwich, locate ingredients, etc.
L2014[15:59:25] <Maxwolf> Out of the entire class there was only like 3 kids that got it
L2015[15:59:34] <Maxwolf> Like every single step and made a sandwich you could eat
L2016[15:59:41] <Kenny> let me guess....
L2017[15:59:49] <Kenny> you were NOT one of the 3 :)
L2018[15:59:51] <Maxwolf> I wasn't there to goto school :)
L2019[15:59:54] <Maxwolf> I was watching
L2020[15:59:58] <Kenny> LOL
L2021[16:00:41] <Maxwolf> The teacher in question was a very good friend of mine, was meeting him for lunch and caught the end of that
L2022[16:00:49] <Kenny> did oyu have the prof when you went?
L2023[16:00:51] <Maxwolf> Never forget :D
L2024[16:01:11] <Maxwolf> I didn't goto college, just graduated high school
L2025[16:01:14] <Maxwolf> Everything I know is self taught
L2026[16:01:45] <Kenny> i went for programming but my health was an issue even back then and i had to get out of programming
L2027[16:01:56] <Maxwolf> To much stress or something?
L2028[16:02:05] <Kenny> so i haven't kept up with languages for 20 years
L2029[16:02:16] <Kenny> water retention
L2030[16:02:24] <Maxwolf> Langauges have not changed very much, we just keep getting further and further away from the hardware
L2031[16:02:28] <Kenny> i went from 210 to 320 in 3 months
L2032[16:02:43] <Maxwolf> Everything is interpreted these days eh? Rare to write code that runs on the bare metal
L2033[16:02:52] <Kenny> true
L2034[16:03:09] <Kenny> though i still keep my hand in doing DOS bas coding hehe
L2035[16:03:14] <Kenny> based*
L2036[16:03:19] <Maxwolf> config.sys you will behave
L2037[16:03:51] <Kenny> my config.sys files were menus hehe
L2038[16:04:06] <Maxwolf> So many hours lost fighting highmem back in the day.
L2039[16:04:12] <Maxwolf> Games where so hardcore you booted into them
L2040[16:04:16] <Maxwolf> lol
L2041[16:04:19] <Kenny> yep
L2042[16:04:30] <Kenny> and most werfe shitty graphics compared to today
L2043[16:04:43] <Maxwolf> Oh yeah man, just got my nostalgia running full tilt here
L2044[16:04:48] <Maxwolf> You are right though would not go back
L2045[16:05:01] <Kenny> of course we on;y had a 16 bit color pallette to work with
L2046[16:05:07] <Kenny> only*
L2047[16:05:10] <Maxwolf> EhEhehe, 256 if you was rich
L2048[16:05:19] <Kenny> yeah
L2049[16:05:27] <Maxwolf> Oh baby I got 10 types of green here
L2050[16:05:32] <Maxwolf> So fancy!
L2051[16:05:41] <Maxwolf> Ehehehee
L2052[16:05:49] <Kenny> that was CGA for you
L2053[16:06:06] <Kenny> then VGA came along and things went wild
L2054[16:10:05] <Maxwolf> On this note have you checked out the demo scenes? Some guys go back on those old IBM beige boxes and code raycasters and video playback on them
L2055[16:10:18] <Maxwolf> It's taken purley as a challenge and not meant to be functional
L2056[16:10:56] <Kenny> i've seen a couple of videos where they used old equipment to do stuff on :)
L2057[16:11:21] <Maxwolf> A few months ago I was reading about an 8-bit raycaster on a C64 that could do shadows, colored lighting, multiple light sources, etc
L2058[16:11:23] <Maxwolf> Was like woahhhh
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L2060[16:11:47] <Kenny> yeah. some of the stuff they do is really wild
L2061[16:12:10] <Maxwolf> It would have taken it 8 months to render a scene but it would do it (they add more cores during rendering to make it go faster) but still crazy to think those old machines can do that.
L2062[16:12:56] <Kenny> i used to do fractals on them lol
L2063[16:14:21] <Kenny> would take hours, sometimes days, to complete one :)
L2064[16:16:23] <Maxwolf> Kenny: here i found it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxS0_ckSwqk
L2065[16:16:24] -Kibibyte- [Maxwolf] 1bir (1 Block Interactive Raycaster) by Crescent (C64) | by crescentc64 | 4m47s | 49w5d ago | 15,443 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
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L2067[16:19:14] <Maxwolf> I forgot but he even has collision detection in there
L2068[16:19:22] <Maxwolf> Ahaha so cool
L2069[16:22:00] <Kenny> wow
L2070[16:22:36] <Wobbo> Maxwolf: Languages have indeed not changed, I first learned programming september last year in C 88. You basically know Java after that as well :P
L2071[16:23:11] <Maxwolf> Amen to that :3
L2072[16:23:19] <Kenny> Wobbo, I learned the old Turbo C which wasn't OOP
L2073[16:23:30] <Kenny> as well as Turbo PAscal
L2074[16:23:31] <Maxwolf> Atari 1040 ST here
L2075[16:23:44] <Wobbo> Kenny: C 88 isn’t OOP either, that is the first standardized C if I am not mistaken
L2076[16:23:47] <Kenny> my first language was good old GWBASIC
L2077[16:24:00] <Kenny> with the line numbers
L2078[16:24:13] <Maxwolf> The Atari had a variant of BASIC on it, was same idea my first programs was on there.
L2079[16:24:25] <Kenny> yeah, but i've also been out of the programming scene for most of 20 years
L2080[16:24:41] <Maxwolf> Like Wobbo is saying though that doesn't matter
L2081[16:24:46] <Maxwolf> You know what a variable is
L2082[16:24:51] <Maxwolf> You know how things move around in memory
L2083[16:24:56] <Maxwolf> So your fine
L2084[16:25:12] <Kenny> yeah, but to rmember writing the actual code....
L2085[16:25:22] * Kenny is going senile hehe
L2086[16:25:30] <Maxwolf> Ehehe just a matter of actually doing it
L2087[16:25:32] <Kenny> old age lol
L2088[16:25:46] <Wobbo> A teacher of mine got kinda annoyed that we had to learn C 88 though.
L2089[16:26:02] <Wobbo> The programming courses are over at computer science, while I study artificial intelligence, and should not deal with memory management :P
L2090[16:26:32] <Maxwolf> I am going on 29 this year, just don't ever stop learning things. I started messing around when I was 8 or 9 on my dads equipment until I got my own.
L2091[16:26:39] <Kenny> is he out of his ever loving mind!
L2092[16:26:52] <Kenny> AI is all about memory
L2093[16:27:29] <Wobbo> Kenny: If you are trying to implement something that is meant to be intelligent, you don’t want to deal with memory managment.
L2094[16:27:40] <Kenny> Max, know what you mean. i always say you are NEVER out of achool becasue you are learning something new everyday
L2095[16:27:46] <Maxwolf> Exactly!
L2096[16:27:54] <Kenny> Wobo: why wouldn't you?
L2097[16:28:10] <Wobbo> Because you want to fucos on the algorithm, not the pointers
L2098[16:28:18] <Kenny> if you don't know memory management, how can you be sure you have enough meory
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L2100[16:28:38] <Maxwolf> I agree with Wobbo that is why I like langauges like Java and C# and so on. They deal with memory management and I just worry about writing my program.
L2101[16:28:38] <Wobbo> A good garbage collector should take care of that for you
L2102[16:29:37] <JoshTheEnder> where can i obtain this 'meory' of which you speak
L2103[16:29:37] <Kenny> we have shitty garbage collectors here :P
L2104[16:30:04] <Maxwolf> Perhaps they are not union workers ;)
L2105[16:30:24] <Wobbo> If you are a computer scientist, I get you have to know memory managment. I, however, am not a computer scientist. I study artificial intelligence because I want to make systems that deal with a dynamic and changing world, not because I want to build a perfect theoretical system :P
L2106[16:30:39] <Wobbo> Because perfect theoretical systems tend to break in the real world.
L2107[16:31:02] <Maxwolf> Well perfect systems don't deal well with unknowns
L2108[16:31:13] <Maxwolf> They work perfectly for FIFO
L2109[16:31:38] <Maxwolf> Things like AI though I agree you need the ability to comprehend something and not know what it even is
L2110[16:31:43] <Maxwolf> Ex. working with concepts
L2111[16:31:50] <Maxwolf> "What is the color red?"
L2112[16:32:03] <Maxwolf> Depending on the context in which I asked that matters very much
L2113[16:32:28] <Wobbo> Maxwolf: lets first define the time of day and the amount of windows in the room we are in :P
L2114[16:32:54] <Maxwolf> Yeah or "how many faces can you see"
L2115[16:33:01] <Maxwolf> Things like that are still very hard questions to answer
L2116[16:33:03] <Wobbo> I had to make a Nao play soccer. We were given a blob detector that would find the blobs of a specifc color for us. It was HORRIBLE
L2117[16:33:15] <Maxwolf> Like how xbox thinks you are a different person if you shave like lawl
L2118[16:33:17] <Maxwolf> AI fail
L2119[16:33:21] <Wobbo> In th morning it worked, in the afternoon it didn’t and you had to recalibrate
L2120[16:33:47] <Wobbo> Then the day after that, it was cloudy and you had to do that agina!
L2121[16:34:07] <Maxwolf> Oh noes, now we have to build of database of detectors based on current weather
L2122[16:34:10] <Wobbo> After a while we wrote a script that would let the robot calibrate itself. But even that didn’t work
L2123[16:34:11] <Maxwolf> Nuuuuu
L2124[16:34:28] <Kenny> back in a few. have to get up and walk around
L2125[16:34:34] <Wobbo> Because if it was placed under the wrong angle, everything went wrong
L2126[16:34:44] <Maxwolf> How did you eventually solve it Wobbo ?
L2127[16:34:46] <Wobbo> But I would do it again :P
L2128[16:34:58] <Maxwolf> Or did you always have to recalibrate?
L2129[16:35:03] <Wobbo> We didn’t.
L2130[16:35:16] <Wobbo> Just see what colors worked best and stick to them
L2131[16:35:25] <Maxwolf> Exactly, don't over engineer it
L2132[16:35:27] <Maxwolf> Makes sense
L2133[16:35:57] <Wobbo> Robots are annoying as hell. I want to spend the rest of my life working on them.
L2134[16:36:18] * Maxwolf makes a robot that beats up other robots
L2135[16:36:23] <Maxwolf> Oh yeah? ;3
L2136[16:36:33] <Michiyo> Sangar, around by chance?
L2137[16:36:36] <Wobbo> Maxwolf: That sounds almost impossible :P
L2138[16:36:56] <Sangar> Michiyo, yes
L2139[16:36:58] <Wobbo> First you have to find other robots, then you have to walk up to them and beat them :P
L2140[16:37:03] <Maxwolf> Wobbo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Kp70VKT4M
L2141[16:37:04] -Kibibyte- [Maxwolf] Chaos II Vs Hypnodisc | by headbanger142 | 2m22s | 304w3d ago | 198,398 views | Rated: 4.89/5.00
L2142[16:37:14] <Maxwolf> Robot battles rock
L2143[16:37:26] <Maxwolf> Granted they are not AI controlled
L2144[16:37:35] <Maxwolf> But I would enjoy the challenge in trying something like that
L2145[16:37:37] <Wobbo> These are teleoperated, aren’t they?
L2146[16:37:44] <Maxwolf> Just probably would not make for good television
L2147[16:37:53] <Maxwolf> Most effecient killer might not make for good ratings
L2148[16:38:05] <Wobbo> Then I don’t consider them robots :P
L2149[16:38:20] <Michiyo> So.. updating OP to 1.7.. in 1.6 I imported li.cil.oc.api.Items, and just used Items.MicrochipTier1 in 1.7 Forge has a init.Items which you have to use for MC items... is there anyway to use both, without having to do ItemStack nuggetIron = li.cil.oc.api.Items.IronNugget?
L2150[16:38:20] <Maxwolf> Ah okies I guess you could consider them avatars then
L2151[16:38:26] <Maxwolf> They are extensions of their creators
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L2154[16:40:05] <Sangar> Michiyo, uhm... you could try import static li.cil.oc.api.Items.*; and the just use MicrochipTier1, i think.
L2155[16:40:59] <Michiyo> Ahh that worked... sorry lol
L2156[16:40:59] <Wobbo> Maxwolf: This is absolutely the most dreadful machine I can imagine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nao_(robot)
L2157[16:41:20] <Michiyo> So far I'm down to only 100 errors lol
L2158[16:41:35] <Maxwolf> Wobbo, I don't even know what those are
L2159[16:41:40] <Maxwolf> They look scary with their little fingers
L2160[16:41:44] <Wobbo> Might be biased since the ones we worked with are 5 years old, but they are really annoying
L2161[16:41:52] <Wobbo> The fingers are useless :P
L2162[16:42:31] <Maxwolf> I am googling him now
L2163[16:42:35] <Maxwolf> Never seen him before
L2164[16:42:52] <Wobbo> They are only around $13000,- :P
L2165[16:43:21] <Maxwolf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STTNYNF4lk
L2166[16:43:21] -Kibibyte- [Maxwolf] Nao Robot | by awesomo2001 | 2m53s | 285w0d ago | 3,588,543 views | Rated: 4.80/5.00
L2167[16:43:30] <Maxwolf> They programmed it to throw a rubber duck into the trash can >.>
L2168[16:43:34] <Maxwolf> EVIL
L2169[16:43:56] <Wobbo> The Nao comes with a lot of useless Demo bs
L2170[16:44:47] <Wobbo> They are widely used as humanoid robots however
L2171[16:44:56] <Maxwolf> You mentioned them playing soccor
L2172[16:45:04] <Maxwolf> *soccer
L2173[16:45:10] <Maxwolf> Watching some videos of that now
L2174[16:45:19] <Wobbo> Search for robocup standard platform league.
L2175[16:45:29] <Maxwolf> Yup! I got the 2011 finals up here
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L2177[16:46:26] <Maxwolf> lol scores and goal and promptly falls over
L2178[16:46:37] <Wobbo> They fall a lot.
L2179[16:46:46] <Maxwolf> At least they get back up
L2180[16:46:51] <Maxwolf> That is kinda cool
L2181[16:47:41] <Wobbo> A lot of the stuff they can is nice, but especially the older versions are slow
L2182[16:48:06] <Maxwolf> It looks interesting to say the very least, definetly early stages but it's surprising sometimes
L2183[16:48:08] <Wobbo> And a large part that you find on the internet is PR, either for the robot itself, or for the academics that use them :P
L2184[16:48:17] <Maxwolf> Like this one in the video just dived infront of the ball and blocked it
L2185[16:48:21] <Maxwolf> That was cool
L2186[16:48:34] <Wobbo> Lookup the 2013 final
L2187[16:48:42] <Maxwolf> Okies
L2188[16:49:05] <Wobbo> From the official stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRVGBztBpDI
L2189[16:49:05] -Kibibyte- [Wobbo] Standard Platform League and RoboCup@Work Finals | by robocup2013 | 1h2m | 21w6d ago | 103 views | Rated: -1.00/5.00
L2190[16:49:28] <Maxwolf> Oh wow! 2013 they got kicking working
L2191[16:49:33] <Maxwolf> Look at them go :D
L2192[16:49:42] <Wobbo> They start about 5 minutes in I believe, the commentary is in Dutch :P
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L2194[16:51:41] <Maxwolf> You can see huge improvement from 2011 video in the 2013 one
L2195[16:51:46] <Maxwolf> They are actually playing the game now
L2196[16:52:01] <Maxwolf> The goalie kicked the ball away like niccccceee
L2197[16:52:57] <Wobbo> Maxwolf: The university of Groningen, where I study, doesn’t actually participate in the soccer leagues, but it is still nice to watch :P
L2198[16:53:15] <Maxwolf> I've never heard of this before
L2199[16:53:20] <Maxwolf> This is all new to me :D
L2200[16:53:26] <Wobbo> The team here only participates in Robocup@HOME, that is also nice.
L2201[16:53:46] <Maxwolf> Looks very cool though, to expensive to participate but watching them play is impressive
L2202[16:53:47] <Wobbo> That is meant to benchmark robots for domestic use
L2203[16:53:50] <Maxwolf> There is lots going on there
L2204[16:55:14] <Wobbo> But this is robocup, a yearly robot soccer competition
L2205[16:55:25] <Wobbo> It is in Brazil this year I believe
L2206[16:55:43] <Maxwolf> How are the robots coded?
L2207[16:55:56] <Wobbo> That is depended on the robot and the team
L2208[16:56:10] <Wobbo> But I believe that most are behavior based.
L2209[16:56:10] <Maxwolf> Ah okies, the robot just provides sensor data
L2210[16:56:14] <Wobbo> Yeah
L2211[16:56:18] <Maxwolf> That is very cool ;)
L2212[16:56:45] <Wobbo> Which is still not possible within OC because of blocking calls. *cough* Sangar *cough*
L2213[16:57:07] <Wobbo> :P
L2214[16:59:10] <Wobbo> Maxwolf: I know that the Nao can be coded in C++ and Python, with support for Java, matlab and .NET
L2215[16:59:26] <Wobbo> Althought the Nao itself runs Linux :P
L2216[17:00:28] <Sangar> i'll see if i can get non-blocking moves into 1.3 ;)
L2217[17:00:35] <Maxwolf> Nice! That is cool he runs nix
L2218[17:00:36] <Wobbo> :D
L2219[17:00:44] <Maxwolf> You want to make robots like this in OC?
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L2221[17:00:50] <Wobbo> Maxwolf: Most robots run nix :P
L2222[17:00:56] <Maxwolf> I would imagine
L2223[17:01:05] <Maxwolf> Nice platform to work from
L2224[17:01:09] <Wobbo> Maxwolf: I want to use behavior based systems in OC using coroutines :P
L2225[17:01:25] <Wobbo> So you can just write your behavior, move it into a framework and run it
L2226[17:01:53] <Maxwolf> Ah doesn't have to be for humanoid robot, could be for anything like refilling reactor or running a pump, etc.
L2227[17:01:57] <Maxwolf> Gotcha
L2228[17:01:57] <Wobbo> It won’t be small, probably, but I know how to get make more memory :P
L2229[17:02:54] <gamax92> Oh right, I was gonna modify OC to be more like a real OS, where / (root) isn't some ram drive thingy.
L2230[17:03:00] <gamax92> but, an actual hdd.
L2231[17:03:03] <Stary2001> gamax92: plz
L2232[17:03:07] <gamax92> wat
L2233[17:03:08] <Wobbo> gamax92: Just wait for 1.3
L2234[17:03:19] <gamax92> oh, is that actully planned?
L2235[17:03:50] * gamax92 pokes Wobbo
L2236[17:04:09] <Wobbo> See the discussion on the issue tracker about Built-in persistent memory
L2237[17:04:59] <gamax92> OH CRAP, I've forgotten about that stupid ass windows update that ruins fonts in firefox.
L2238[17:05:16] <Kenny> back
L2239[17:06:26] <Wobbo> I’m gone for today, wanted to go to bed long time ago
L2240[17:06:29] <Wobbo> Bye!
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L2242[17:07:05] <gamax92> Or you could just, mount the hdd's as root, and it would be even less confusing then an NVRAM
L2243[17:07:19] <Kenny> gamax92: he's gone
L2244[17:07:26] <gamax92> wasn't directed to him.
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L2246[17:10:07] <gamax92> I find the whole "hack a computer with an extra drive" thing, just like irl.
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L2249[17:10:43] <gamax92> Because, one can use a CD/Floppy/USB on an irl computer, boot from that, and do "hacky" things
L2250[17:12:38] <gamax92> so yeah, modifying OC. Also Stary2001 what did you mean?
L2251[17:13:03] <Stary2001> gamax92: actual persistent /
L2252[17:13:12] <gamax92> :D
L2253[17:13:27] <Stary2001> if thatd be added, i could actually use OC like its linux :P
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L2256[17:15:33] <gamax92> prerequisite to that happening, ATI drivers not crashing.
L2257[17:15:40] <gamax92> because you know, i need that to use OC
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L2259[17:21:30] <gamax92> is it recommended to use the MC1.7.X version of OC?
L2260[17:22:17] <Ender|WatchingSG> depends what minecraft version you're using, they're both the same IIRC
L2261[17:23:52] <Michiyo> Stary2001, #Opers on PCL plox :P
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L2266[17:39:54] <ping> .ping
L2267[17:39:57] <^v> Ping reply from ping 2.41s
L2268[17:40:00] <ping> yay, you diddnt brake eait
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L2271[17:42:17] <ping> so
L2272[17:42:20] <ping> what did i miss?
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L2274[17:43:26] <Stary2001> nothing.. nothing at all..
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L2276[17:48:21] <^v> aww
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L2284[17:51:40] <Michiyo> Hmm... Ok so Sangar, I'm getting a NPE on my recipe register using any item from OC.. :/
L2285[17:52:44] <Michiyo> I've tried both li.cil.oc.api.Items.IronNugget, and IronNugget with the static import.
L2286[17:53:43] <gamax92> I feel like making an egg sandwich
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L2289[17:54:28] <Death> gamax92: I just fried an egg for my mom :P
L2290[17:54:34] <Death> like, right before joining
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L2294[17:56:45] <Sangar> Michiyo, hmm, i'm not 100% sure about how load order is determined, but i'd assume if you declare a dependency on oc your preinit should be called after oc's? (check the log) other than that i can't think of a reason why that would be null.
L2295[17:56:48] <^v> http://puu.sh/8cWHf.png
L2296[17:56:53] <^v> \o/
L2297[17:56:54] <Michiyo> wait a second.. I'm a damn idiot.
L2298[17:57:11] <Michiyo> Can we pretend I didn't send those last 2 messages? :D
L2299[17:57:19] <Sangar> what messages?
L2300[17:57:20] <ping> Michiyo, no
L2301[17:57:24] <ping> its now in puush
L2302[17:57:24] <Death> lol ping
L2303[17:57:31] <Sangar> pssst
L2304[17:57:36] <Michiyo> Thanks Sangar :P
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L2306[17:58:18] <Kenny> Sangar: how can we get the actual system time in lua?
L2307[17:58:29] <Sangar> of what system?
L2308[17:58:40] <Kenny> the users system
L2309[17:58:42] <Sangar> as in real world time?
L2310[17:58:47] <Kenny> yep
L2311[17:59:01] <Sangar> internet card, query a time server :P
L2312[17:59:07] <Michiyo> heh
L2313[17:59:38] <Kenny> see, if i go with the lua time i was 13 and that was not the beginning of time :P
L2314[18:00:09] <Sangar> it is for timestamps :P
L2315[18:00:18] <Kenny> and i give you fair warning......
L2316[18:00:38] <Kenny> this coming Wednesday I'm going to be extremely silly and off the hook
L2317[18:01:11] <ping> asiiiieeeeeeeeee
L2318[18:01:19] <Sangar> right :P
L2319[18:01:31] <Kenny> i think i can do that on my bday lol
L2320[18:01:46] <Sangar> yes, i'm pretty sure that can be justified ;)
L2321[18:02:01] <Ir7_o> morning.
L2322[18:02:05] <ping> night
L2323[18:02:10] <Kenny> hey Ir7_o
L2324[18:02:15] <Ir7_o> hey Kenny
L2325[18:02:18] <Kenny> evening hehe
L2326[18:02:22] <Ir7_o> :P
L2327[18:02:30] <Sangar> brilliant timing, i'm off to bed :P
L2328[18:02:36] <Sangar> see you tomorrow
L2329[18:02:36] <Ir7_o> cya later ;)
L2330[18:02:41] <Ir7_o> bai
L2331[18:02:48] <Kenny> nite Sangar
L2332[18:03:03] <ping> nite o/
L2333[18:04:12] <Michiyo> Night
L2334[18:04:17] <Ir7_o> goodnight
L2335[18:04:26] <Katie> cya Sangar
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L2337[18:06:25] * Ir7_o slaps SpiritedDusty around a bit with a large trout
L2338[18:06:43] <SpiritedDusty> what
L2339[18:07:57] <Ir7_o> hey ._.
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L2341[18:10:03] * ping slaps Ir7_o around a bit with a small trout
L2342[18:11:52] <Ender|WatchingSG> i bid you all farewell, for i am to enter the land of dreams
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L2344[18:12:07] <ping> -.
L2345[18:12:12] <ping> .-.
L2346[18:12:16] <ping> .-.
L2347[18:12:25] * JoshTheEnder find the nearest couch and lays down on it
L2348[18:12:27] ⇦ Parts: ping (~notPing@2601:4:4500:887:7475:769d:7a6b:b2ad) (*pewf*))
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L2351[18:23:08] <gamax92> ping wth
L2352[18:23:10] <gamax92> what server is this
L2353[18:25:46] <gamax92> SpiritedDusty: OC was able to use CC peripherals right, via some adapter or transformer thingy?
L2354[18:27:12] <SpiritedDusty> yeah
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L2356[18:27:41] <gamax92> good, i want to use immibis' my adventure map interface with OC
L2357[18:27:48] <Dean4Code> Good night too everybody on the dark half of the planet, mesa going sleep now.
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L2360[18:28:38] <gamax92> oh, you wern't here.
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L2362[18:28:46] <gamax92> "ping wth" "what server is this"
L2363[18:29:06] <ping> gamax92, AMIs arent compatable with OC IIRC
L2364[18:29:12] <gamax92> FAAK
L2365[18:29:20] <ping> sorry, wiggle1000 was on server
L2366[18:29:40] <gamax92> only two people can be on server at once?
L2367[18:30:02] <ping> ._.
L2368[18:30:05] <ping> LAN server
L2369[18:30:14] <gamax92> wiggle lives in your house?
L2370[18:30:25] <ping> no
L2371[18:30:42] <ping> LAN in MC doesnt actually mean LAN
L2372[18:31:02] <gamax92> then what is the significance of saying LAN Server
L2373[18:31:21] <gamax92> or even that wiggle was on the server.
L2374[18:31:24] <ping> implied shittyness, because you would have wanted to join
L2375[18:31:44] <gamax92> I'm shitty?
L2376[18:31:48] <ping> oh, wiggle said stuff in chat that ^v might of relayed
L2377[18:31:48] <Death> yes.
L2378[18:31:50] * Death runs
L2379[18:31:57] <ping> no, LAN server on laptop shitty
L2380[18:32:11] <gamax92> mind if I host a server?
L2381[18:32:15] <^v> sure
L2382[18:32:30] <gamax92> ModsnShit?
L2383[18:33:03] <^v> idk, http://www.technicpack.net/api/modpack/coatrack
L2384[18:33:14] <^v> (its my pack)
L2385[18:33:26] <^v> i forgot to put my textures in :/
L2386[18:34:20] <gamax92> oh, i should probably stop downloading every single tracker music modarchive.org has.
L2387[18:34:26] <^v> .-.
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L2394[19:04:05] <ping> mandlebrot on gamax's computer: http://i.imgur.com/QOwJUy6.png
L2395[19:04:11] <ping> gamax92, fix ur drivers
L2396[19:04:31] <gamax92> ping: and how do you expect me to do that
L2397[19:04:42] <ping> idk
L2398[19:04:58] <gamax92> lets just blame it on sangar like usual
L2399[19:05:52] <ping> github. issssues.
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L2401[19:08:48] <gamax92> already been filed
L2402[19:08:52] <gamax92> serveral people
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L2415[19:40:52] <ping> oh for fucks sake debian
L2416[19:41:02] <ping> you have a kernel panic in recovery mode
L2417[19:41:22] <gamax92> so, it says hold LMENU for material info
L2418[19:41:27] <gamax92> what the hell is LMENU
L2419[19:41:46] <gamax92> oh, its left alt, why is it menu ...
L2420[19:43:57] <Death> because alt opens menus a lot of the time
L2421[19:44:28] <ping> alt
L2422[19:44:32] <ping> ALT
L2423[19:44:57] <ping> so, i install ati drivers, and recovery mode segfaults and kernel panics
L2424[19:45:15] <ping> … because apparently i still have nshidia drivers
L2425[19:53:48] <ping> well then
L2426[19:53:55] <ping> i dont know how, but it has resolved itself
L2427[19:53:55] <gamax92> >:O
L2428[19:53:59] <gamax92> internet card!
L2429[19:54:00] <gamax92> sockets!
L2430[19:54:08] <ping> yes!111!!!eleven!!1
L2431[19:54:21] <gamax92> so, that means i can bring irc to my server.
L2432[19:54:22] <ping> … i gotta poop
L2433[19:54:26] <ping> ofc
L2434[19:54:31] <ping> there is irc program
L2435[19:54:45] <ping> Sanagr made it
L2436[19:55:07] <gamax92> Sanagr made ICR?
L2437[19:56:09] <gamax92> Sanagr made an program for OpenCompuders, which requires MinceraftForge that you can download with Mozarrella FireFax?
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L2439[20:01:23] <Michiyo> Sangar made it, and Michiyo improved it :P
L2440[20:03:18] <Maxwolf> inb4 we have entire package manager in OC
L2441[20:03:32] <Maxwolf> oc install ircclient
L2442[20:03:41] <Maxwolf> add repos from other people and stuff would be awesome
L2443[20:06:00] <Kenny> someone was supposed to be making a package manager for it. then we could access the OpenPrograms repo and get whatever files we wanted :)
L2444[20:06:39] <Kenny> my next lua project is a file amnager for OC
L2445[20:06:42] <Michiyo> I might... one day
L2446[20:09:03] <Maxwolf> Would make it super easy to share programs and repos and also malware >.>
L2447[20:09:12] <Maxwolf> Would just need to ensure that shared programs don't do naughty things
L2448[20:09:36] <Kenny> there is a wget program included with OC
L2449[20:09:40] <Maxwolf> Or pop up a thing like "This program in from the Internet and not the OC team and we take no responsibilities for fire"
L2450[20:09:44] <Michiyo> Well, that's upt othe end user to figure out, just like realworld 3rd party repos
L2451[20:23:36] <gamax92> how can i make an api on OC>
L2452[20:23:50] <gamax92> I'm finding my table i create in a program doesn't stick around
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L2454[20:27:42] <ping> .-.
L2455[20:27:45] <ping> you know what..
L2456[20:27:58] <ping> i could code a apt-get type thing
L2457[20:28:13] <ping> and host all the programs on github
L2458[20:28:31] <gamax92> you could.
L2459[20:28:35] <gamax92> and that would be awesome
L2460[20:28:46] <ping> ill do eit
L2461[20:29:12] <gamax92> gah, this resolution is so fucking annoying.
L2462[20:29:33] <ping> once i uninstall xserver-xorg-video-nshidia
L2463[20:33:02] <ping> im just going to remove the post removal script -_-
L2464[20:33:09] <ping> because nvidia sucks at linux
L2465[20:33:48] <Death> Has someone made an OC emulator yet?
L2466[20:36:08] <lclc98> why do u need one?
L2467[20:36:29] <ping> no
L2468[20:39:11] <SpiritedDusty> Death, I'm working on one
L2469[20:40:30] <ping> how does one plan on emulating it?
L2470[20:41:00] <lclc98> ^
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L2472[20:43:15] <Kenny|Sleeping> !flags jk-5 +vV
L2473[20:43:15] -ChanServ- Kenny|Sleeping (Kenny) set flags +Vv on jk-5.
L2474[20:43:22] <Kenny|Sleeping> !voiced jk-5
L2475[20:43:32] <Kenny|Sleeping> !voice jk-5
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L2477[20:49:02] <gamax92> "attempt to call global unpack" what is this
L2478[20:49:07] <ping> table.unpack
L2479[20:49:33] <ping> i just local unpack=table.unpack in most of my programs ;-;
L2480[20:51:15] <gamax92> ping: the AMI's won't work
L2481[20:51:45] <gamax92> I'll do isPresent on them and CC's like "false"
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L2483[20:51:56] <gamax92> and they won't light up
L2484[20:52:07] <ping> on CC?
L2485[20:52:13] <ping> ._.
L2486[20:52:14] <gamax92> isn't that what i just said
L2487[20:52:34] <ping> forget to ennable it?
L2488[20:52:54] <gamax92> wait what, you have to enable it now?
L2489[20:53:45] <gamax92> says "B:peripherals.enableAdventureMapInterface=true"
L2490[20:53:51] <ping> .-. idk
L2491[20:54:15] <ping> tried peripheral.list?
L2492[20:54:50] <ping> did you update immibiss's's'ss core?
L2493[20:54:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Afternoon o/
L2494[20:54:57] <ping> night
L2495[20:55:05] <gamax92> no
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L2498[20:58:04] <ping> D:
L2499[20:58:07] <gamax92> ping: updated core, still does it
L2500[20:58:08] <ping> why mibbit
L2501[20:58:11] <ping> why mibbit
L2502[20:58:14] <ping> mibbit is shit
L2503[20:58:24] <mallrat208> Because I don't care?
L2504[20:59:07] <gamax92> getNames also won't show it.
L2505[20:59:27] <ping> so strange
L2506[21:00:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Anything intteresting happening?
L2507[21:01:03] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: peripheral randomly not working
L2508[21:01:32] <gamax92> ping: so yeah, the latest is bork, downgraded fixed.
L2509[21:01:44] <ping> \o/
L2510[21:01:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, odd. I don't know much about 'em.
L2511[21:01:48] <gamax92> if you do get immiby peripheralz use 57.0.2
L2512[21:01:56] <ping> leme spam immibis
L2513[21:02:01] <gamax92> also, still using the old core you had in the modpack
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L2515[21:02:10] <ping> .-.
L2516[21:02:17] <ping> u diddnt upgrade it?
L2517[21:02:20] <gamax92> yes, i tried it with the new one
L2518[21:02:24] <gamax92> its the new peripherals
L2519[21:02:49] <gamax92> erm, rephrase. I did update the core, didn't fix it.
L2520[21:08:59] <gamax92> ping: http://i.imgur.com/O4peLQn.png
L2521[21:09:04] <ping> :O
L2522[21:09:07] <ping> * Received a CTCP ARKHALIS from RawringNymNym
L2523[21:09:13] <ping> stabbing time
L2524[21:10:04] <Death> lclc98: to answer your above question - my computer can't run Minecraft.
L2525[21:10:08] <ShadowKatStudios> So to anyone that cares: I won't be able to write for at least 12 hours, it's not night time and I'm not tired.
L2526[21:10:21] <lclc98> ooh k
L2527[21:10:37] <gamax92> ping: also, the programs are called cc-master and oc-slave, for the OC and CC program respectively
L2528[21:13:14] <ping> ffs
L2529[21:13:17] <gamax92> wat
L2530[21:13:19] <ping> this is frustrating
L2531[21:13:26] <gamax92> ping: my program?
L2532[21:13:56] <ping> apparently this APU made in 2014 only supports legacy drivers
L2533[21:15:22] <ShadowKatStudios> APU?
L2534[21:15:37] <ping> yes
L2535[21:15:38] <ping> APU
L2536[21:15:42] <ping> ik, shitty
L2537[21:15:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Meaning?
L2538[21:15:55] <ping> ._.
L2539[21:16:07] <ping> ShadowKatStudios, do you even computer science?
L2540[21:16:21] <ping> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Unit
L2541[21:16:30] <ShadowKatStudios> My school doesn't offer it till year 11
L2542[21:16:43] <ping> .-. how old are you?
L2543[21:17:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Undisclosed.
L2544[21:17:34] <ping> k
L2545[21:17:44] <ping> well then
L2546[21:17:45] <Death> hah, computer sciences.
L2547[21:17:48] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios, age Undisclosed.
L2548[21:17:50] <ShadowKatStudios> So it's basically integrated graphics?
L2549[21:17:52] <Death> I don't even have that course.
L2550[21:17:53] <ping> no
L2551[21:17:59] <ping> its not
L2552[21:18:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Graphics + CPU yes?
L2553[21:18:20] <gamax92> no
L2554[21:18:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I don't know about this new stuff D:
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L2557[21:19:31] <ShadowKatStudios> " designed to act as a CPU and graphics accelerator (GPU) on a single chip."
L2558[21:19:36] <ShadowKatStudios> -Wikipedia
L2559[21:19:51] <gamax92> ping: can your unserializer handle recursion
L2560[21:20:00] <gamax92> erm, serializer*
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L2562[21:20:32] <ping> gamax92, no
L2563[21:20:43] <ping> which serializer?
L2564[21:20:46] <gamax92> then faku
L2565[21:20:53] <gamax92> infinitools or something
L2566[21:21:09] <gamax92> infiutils
L2567[21:21:19] <ping> .-. outdated much
L2568[21:21:24] <ping> its pt.serialize now biach
L2569[21:21:34] <gamax92> so, does it support recursion
L2570[21:22:33] <ping> .> local a={not=rly} a.no=a serialize(a,{noerr=true,nofalse=true})
L2571[21:22:34] <^v> ping, lua:1: unexpected symbol near '='
L2572[21:22:36] <ping> :|
L2573[21:23:27] <ShadowKatStudios> .lua a={a}
L2574[21:23:28] <^v> ShadowKatStudios, nil
L2575[21:23:33] <ShadowKatStudios> .lua a={a} return(a)
L2576[21:23:34] <^v> ShadowKatStudios, table: 0092ACC0
L2577[21:23:37] <ping> .-.
L2578[21:23:46] <ping> well then
L2579[21:23:50] <ping> work on apt-get
L2580[21:24:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Can you convert those table: derpnum messages into a table?
L2581[21:24:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Or is it one-way?
L2582[21:24:28] <ping> wдt derpnum?
L2583[21:24:38] <ping> oh
L2584[21:24:44] <ping> yeah, its called serialize
L2585[21:24:56] <ping> leme add it into sbox
L2586[21:27:57] <gamax92> so, imma go write a recursive serializer then
L2587[21:28:02] <gamax92> also, can i have pt.serialize
L2588[21:28:25] <ping> i dont know where it is
L2589[21:28:31] <ping> i just use Sanagr's serializer
L2590[21:28:36] <gamax92> can i have it
L2591[21:29:19] <ping> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/rom/lib/serialization.lua
L2592[21:29:20] <gamax92> :'(
L2593[21:29:24] <ping> thar
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L2595[21:29:45] <gamax92> the fuck is kw
L2596[21:30:35] <ping> kw is used to detect if a short key is going to die
L2597[21:30:47] <ping> .lua {and="foo"}
L2598[21:30:47] <^v> ping, lua:1: unexpected symbol near '{'
L2599[21:30:56] <ping> ^ makes sure this doesnt happen
L2600[21:31:11] <gamax92> what exactly is wrong with that?
L2601[21:31:19] <ping> and is a operator
L2602[21:31:31] <gamax92> and? (no pun)
L2603[21:31:36] <ping> yes
L2604[21:32:06] <gamax92> ping: the other usage of that, as in go on.
L2605[21:32:20] <ping> idk
L2606[21:32:55] <ping> if a string key matches ^[%a_][%w_]*$ and isnt an operator it can be shortened
L2607[21:32:56] <gamax92> it should just generate good result instead of killing keys.
L2608[21:33:12] <ping> {potato=true} is sugar for {["potato"]=true}
L2609[21:33:20] <gamax92> yes, i know
L2610[21:33:48] <ping> its a good way to make serialized tables look nicer .-.
L2611[21:34:05] <gamax92> get to the point
L2612[21:34:12] <ping> i got to the point
L2613[21:34:24] <ping> what is your current question?
L2614[21:36:26] <gamax92> okay, got rid of the pretty printing crap
L2615[21:38:40] <Death> With the new Internet card, is a returned handle able to send text by using internet component as the index?
L2616[21:39:17] <gamax92> ping: whats the point of l in s(v,l)
L2617[21:39:21] <ping> no, it returns a buffer
L2618[21:39:26] <gamax92> its not used anywhere
L2619[21:40:19] <gamax92> oh, its used for the pretty printer
L2620[21:40:45] <ping> r = r .. s(v, l + 1
L2621[21:40:49] <ping> ye
L2622[21:41:55] <gamax92> :<
L2623[21:41:57] <gamax92> "if v ~= v then"
L2624[21:42:02] <gamax92> why
L2625[21:42:03] <Death> whu
L2626[21:42:09] <Death> whut
L2627[21:42:11] <ping> gamax92, because
L2628[21:42:17] <gamax92> when is v never going to be v
L2629[21:42:21] <ping> .lua 0/0 == 0/0
L2630[21:42:22] <^v> ping, false
L2631[21:42:26] <gamax92> WAT
L2632[21:42:41] <ping> ^
L2633[21:43:09] <ping> technically x/0~=y/0 if x~=y
L2634[21:43:16] <ping> so lua makes it not equal itself always
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L2636[21:46:17] <ping> so, .ocget files
L2637[21:46:18] <ping> http://puu.sh/8daK4.png
L2638[21:48:02] <gamax92> hmm, i've never known that.
L2639[21:48:05] <gamax92> stupid ieee?
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L2641[21:53:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Shiny editor.
L2642[21:53:34] <ping> wдt
L2643[21:53:50] <gamax92> ping: i must try term.write'ing a nan
L2644[21:54:14] <ping> .-.
L2645[21:54:16] <ping> okay..
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L2649[21:55:42] <ping> http://puu.sh/8dbj8.png
L2650[21:55:44] <ping> such confuse
L2651[21:55:45] <gamax92> so, my serializer i wrote for term.write will give NAN, good enough, its supposed to give NaN
L2652[21:57:32] <ping> i see you in love
L2653[21:57:37] <ping> er, #love
L2654[21:57:39] <ping> on OFTC
L2655[21:57:55] <Death> I knew I was forgetting something..
L2656[22:15:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Does anyone know anything about secret data transmission in the high-up of a government organization?
L2657[22:15:43] <ShadowKatStudios> (Hello, carnivore o/ :D )
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L2659[22:23:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll take that as a no. Damn.
L2660[22:23:39] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: they send data over BW/8 SSTV
L2661[22:24:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Wouldn't that be easily interceptable?
L2662[22:24:04] <ping> .-.
L2663[22:24:14] <gamax92> the image is incrypted.
L2664[22:24:24] <ping> incryption is easy to break
L2665[22:24:30] <ping> i am smart and use encryption
L2666[22:24:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, I sees.
L2667[22:24:51] <gamax92> generally, governments use ROT3
L2668[22:25:00] <gamax92> great encryption, also fast to implement.
L2669[22:25:14] <ShadowKatStudios> ROT3 as in rotate 3?
L2670[22:25:24] <gamax92> yeah
L2671[22:25:48] <ShadowKatStudios> ... Where did you find this information?
L2672[22:25:56] <gamax92> 127.0.0.1
L2673[22:26:06] <ShadowKatStudios> I guessed.
L2674[22:26:29] <gamax92> ping: "i am smart"
L2675[22:26:30] <gamax92> no
L2676[22:26:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm, still gotta come up with something believeable for my story then.
L2677[22:27:21] <gamax92> Governments send TrueCrypt encrypted volumes full of porn containing steganography hidden messages.
L2678[22:28:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Hah, that is believeable
L2679[22:28:44] <gamax92> except no its not
L2680[22:28:45] <ping> the nuclear launch codes are encrypted with RSA 100
L2681[22:28:55] <ping> top securety shit bro
L2682[22:29:15] <gamax92> anyway, its 10PM here, and like even later for ping, why you still awake bro, night?
L2683[22:29:21] <finkmac> *spoiler* the codes are 000
L2684[22:29:33] <finkmac> well, 000-000-000-000
L2685[22:29:37] <ping> because
L2686[22:29:45] <ping> i need to go to bed at ~12
L2687[22:29:52] <gamax92> actually, this conversation reminds me of something my friend told me.
L2688[22:30:03] <ping> because aneheim is 3 hrs behind
L2689[22:30:51] <ping> i will most likely stay up all night / get only 1 hr of sleep then sleep entire plane ride
L2690[22:30:55] <gamax92> my friend was writing a login system for someone, and the current system they used, triple hashed passwords, with md5, and then discarded some of the hash, and then base64 encoded it.
L2691[22:31:02] <gamax92> the salt was stored in the client page
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L2693[22:31:06] <ping> [
L2694[22:31:07] <gamax92> and the salt was md5 hashed
L2695[22:31:09] <ping> .-.
L2696[22:31:19] <ping> sounds kinda, gravityscore like
L2697[22:31:22] <gamax92> lol
L2698[22:31:35] <ping> OH, IMA HASH IT A COUPLE TIMES, 100% SAFE
L2699[22:31:45] <gamax92> especially with md5.
L2700[22:32:24] <ping> well, gravity uses sha256 now
L2701[22:32:35] <ping> not that it matters
L2702[22:33:18] <gamax92> actually, that system would be worse than gravs
L2703[22:33:31] <gamax92> grav never discarded part of the hash or base64 encoded it .
L2704[22:33:33] <ping> gravity, i couldnt give a fuck about getting the password, i can just replace it with all the sql injection
L2705[22:34:24] <gamax92> oh right, the verification code for the email, checked that .com was in the email.
L2706[22:34:41] <gamax92> so, you couldn't use any other site that didn't have a .com extension
L2707[22:34:46] <ping> i XXSed him so hard
L2708[22:35:07] <ping> it was only a redirect, but made him panic xD
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L2711[22:35:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I'd love to get you guys on a server with a functional network and watch you guys hack each other.
L2712[22:35:32] <gamax92> oh look, asie.
L2713[22:35:54] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: yeah well, maybe never.
L2714[22:36:06] <Vexatos> \o
L2715[22:36:09] <gamax92> being on a server with ping is enough to make me cringe
L2716[22:36:21] <ShadowKatStudios> It's just an idea.
L2717[22:36:34] <gamax92> ping: also, your cps code sucks.
L2718[22:36:52] <ping> gamax92, that was my FIRST ami program
L2719[22:36:54] <ping> so stfu
L2720[22:37:23] <gamax92> ping: but, you could had fixed it.
L2721[22:37:49] <ping> ShadowKatStudios, most of the time people flailed around a bit and i had to help them with it D:
L2722[22:38:06] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
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L2724[22:38:07] <ping> and because i helped them with it, all the crypto shit was safe
L2725[22:38:50] * ShadowKatStudios should write a brute-force password thing
L2726[22:39:36] <ping> what kind of bruteforce
L2727[22:40:01] <Michiyo> and OpenPrinter for 1.7 is a thing
L2728[22:40:57] <ping> .lua53 "Gamax92"
L2729[22:40:58] <^v> ping, Gamax92
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L2731[22:43:42] <ping> a wild Moonrise appears
L2732[22:43:59] <Moonrise> grrrr
L2733[22:44:42] <ping> gamax92, all 5.3 numbers are 64 bit
L2734[22:44:51] <gamax92> :D
L2735[22:44:51] <ping> also tonumber is fixed
L2736[22:44:53] <gamax92> awesome
L2737[22:44:59] <ping> .lua53 tonumber("-1")
L2738[22:45:00] <^v> ping, -1
L2739[22:45:05] <gamax92> thats always worked
L2740[22:45:10] <ping> oh right
L2741[22:45:10] <gamax92> change the base though
L2742[22:45:17] <ping> .lua53 tonumber("-1",10)
L2743[22:45:18] <^v> ping, -1
L2744[22:45:20] <ping> .lua53 tonumber("-1",16)
L2745[22:45:20] <^v> ping, -1
L2746[22:45:22] <ping> ye
L2747[22:46:10] <gamax92> sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
L2748[22:46:10] <ShadowKatStudios> One that focuses on remote login
L2749[22:46:16] <ping> D:
L2750[22:46:26] <ping> gammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmax
L2751[22:46:37] <ping> .sksboard gamax92
L2752[22:46:37] <^v> ping, gamax92
L2753[22:46:41] <ping> .-.
L2754[22:47:12] <ShadowKatStudios> .lua53 tonumber("10",16))
L2755[22:47:12] <^v> ShadowKatStudios, lua:1: unexpected symbol near ')'
L2756[22:47:14] <ping> oh right, only do checking on mispell
L2757[22:47:15] <ShadowKatStudios> .lua53 tonumber("10",16)
L2758[22:47:15] <^v> ShadowKatStudios, 16
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L2761[23:11:45] <ping> ohai asie
L2762[23:11:56] <ping> chat boxes dont pick up /me
L2763[23:11:57] <ping> plsfix
L2764[23:12:03] <ping> also, configurable prefix
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L2766[23:29:19] <Death> so I did a thing for my first program with OC.
L2767[23:29:22] <Death> /whois archimedes
L2768[23:30:30] <ping> .-.
L2769[23:31:39] <Death> It can currently only do ping/pongs, but I think it's a good start
L2770[23:35:25] <ping> 5594
L2771[23:35:29] <ping> 5594 lines of code
L2772[23:35:38] <ping> ^v / all my openprograms
L2773[23:41:28] <asie> ping: can'tfix
L2774[23:41:33] <asie> the /me command emits no event
L2775[23:41:44] <asie> configurable prefix? sure, why not
L2776[23:41:44] <ping> .-.
L2777[23:41:49] <asie> i just wish i had a server to play on
L2778[23:41:56] <asie> or host my own? who knows
L2779[23:42:09] <ping> AMIs have chat events for /me
L2780[23:42:10] <ping> D:
L2781[23:42:41] <asie> AMIs?
L2782[23:43:11] <asie> the best thing I can do is add support for the /me I have built into AsieLib's chat library
L2783[23:43:24] <ping> immibis's''ssssssss adventure map interfaces
L2784[23:43:35] <asie> yes but they capture all chat on all the map
L2785[23:43:40] <asie> i capture chat within x blocks of the chatbox
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L2787[23:45:18] <ping> get /me -> find player coords -> distance algorithm
L2788[23:46:19] <asie> ping: but you can't detect a /me specifically
L2789[23:46:22] <asie> only that a chat message has been sent
L2790[23:46:25] <asie> either by a player or by the server
L2791[23:47:03] <ping> wдt
L2792[23:47:10] <ping> why not
L2793[23:47:14] <asie> there is no special event for it!
L2794[23:47:24] <ping> .-. how does AMI do it
L2795[23:47:37] <asie> there is ServerChatEvent
L2796[23:47:39] <asie> that's /it/
L2797[23:47:42] <asie> how do i detect it's a /me
L2798[23:47:56] <ping> by seeing if it begins with /me
L2799[23:48:15] <Vexatos> :P
L2800[23:48:21] <asie> ping: but i don't get the sent message
L2801[23:48:23] <asie> i get the output
L2802[23:48:26] <ping> .-.
L2803[23:48:39] <ping> how does immibis get the input .-.
L2804[23:48:46] <asie> but what I /will/ add is Creative Chat Boxes
L2805[23:48:53] <asie> as in noncraftable chatboxes that listen to ALL the things
L2806[23:49:23] <asie> okay, fine, you win
L2807[23:49:23] <asie> public Packet3Chat serverChat(NetHandler handler, Packet3Chat message);
L2808[23:49:30] <asie> i will add this, but only to creative chat boxes
L2809[23:49:33] <ping> :D
L2810[23:49:34] <asie> as knowing all sent commands is rather OP
L2811[23:50:03] <ping> if message:beginsWith("/me ") then
L2812[23:50:10] <asie> that's still, uh, cheat-ish
L2813[23:50:15] <asie> but i'll add it as a config option
L2814[23:51:13] <ping> is there some other magical way to do a /me?
L2815[23:51:20] <asie> no, but what if a server doesn't have /me
L2816[23:51:23] <asie> or uses /me for something else
L2817[23:52:07] <ping> because fuck whoever doesnt replace default commands :P
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L2820[23:53:44] <ping> its more "hacky" to replace /me
L2821[23:54:24] <asie> ping: i replace /me for a different reason
L2822[23:54:34] <ping> .-.
L2823[23:54:35] <ping> wдt
L2824[23:54:36] <asie> the ability to change its color
L2825[23:54:44] <asie> but it's again a config option
L2826[23:54:49] <asie> just like my complete rewrite of the chat system in AsieLib
L2827[23:55:03] <asie> similar in featureset to what Essentials does with the chat system
L2828[23:55:46] <ping> exept essentials just formats the output of /me
L2829[23:55:50] <asie> ping: more problems
L2830[23:55:58] <asie> Packet3Chat does *not* tell me what player it is
L2831[23:56:04] <asie> without hacky refactoring
L2832[23:56:13] <asie> therefore, limited to creative chatboxes only
L2833[23:56:17] <ping> step one
L2834[23:56:28] <ping> decompile immibis'sssss's
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L2836[23:56:35] <ping> stap two
L2837[23:56:42] <ping> slap ping
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L2839[23:56:51] <asie> ping: >decompile
L2840[23:56:56] <asie> i read the source code
L2841[23:57:31] ⇨ Joins: ping (~notPing@2601:4:4500:887:7475:769d:7a6b:b2ad)
L2842[23:57:51] <ping> exept AMI outputs name
L2843[23:57:59] ⇦ Quits: ping (~notPing@2601:4:4500:887:7475:769d:7a6b:b2ad) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L2844[23:58:37] ⇦ Quits: ^v (~pingbot@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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