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L1[00:07:36] <ShadowKatStudios> According to
the stats page, I'm the most active person between 0 and 5
L2[00:08:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Tenth
between 6 and eleven, and 9th between 18-23
L3[00:09:08] <ShadowKatStudios> 9th most
active overall
L4[00:09:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Still tryna
get the record for most stabs :D
L5[00:09:52] * ping
stabs ShadowKatStudios
L6[00:09:52] <^v> ShadowKatStudios loses 28
hp ( 963 now )
L8[00:10:12] *
ShadowKatStudios stabs ping
L9[00:10:12] <^v> ping loses 20 hp ( 1055
now )
L10[00:10:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
Really?
L12[00:10:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Does the
system support multiple stabs in one message?
L13[00:10:59] <ping> nope
L14[00:11:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Would you
live with me being second most stabby?
L15[00:11:12] <ping> nope
L16[00:11:21] * ping
eats ShadowKatStudios
L17[00:11:21] <^v> ping gains 10 fat ( 116
now )
L18[00:11:24] <ping> dammit
L19[00:11:30] <ping> i forgot i added that
Dx
L20[00:11:42] <ShadowKatStudios>
Riight
L21[00:11:44] <ping> you can exessively eat
for health
L22[00:11:47] <ping> cant*
L23[00:12:02] *
ShadowKatStudios stabs ping to make his way out
L24[00:12:26] <ShadowKatStudios> What
happens when you hit 0 health?
L25[00:12:50] <ping> nothing
L26[00:12:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Does
negative work?
L28[00:13:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Nice, I
could be undead
L29[00:13:31] <ShadowKatStudios>
>:D
L30[00:13:32] <ping> ill make a system
where your health will reset after 1000 messages
L31[00:13:44] <ping> while you are dead,
you cant do anything
L32[00:14:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Could you
still eat people?
L33[00:14:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Y'know,
zombies
L35[00:15:42] <ping> by health 0 you would
have multiple stab wounds, a deformed face (due to slaps), and
weigh 500 pounds
L36[00:20:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Mmmh,
that's fair
L37[00:21:17] <ping> also where if you have
too much fat you wont be able to do anything
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L39[00:30:05] <ShadowKatStudios> ping, if
you don't want me as second most stabby person, why do you allow
someone else to be second most stabby person?
L40[00:30:49] <ping> because Kenny is the
second most stabby person
L41[00:31:22] <ping> wait no, thats
josh
L42[00:31:27] <ping> Kenny|Sleeping, slap
more plox
L43[00:31:47] <ping> ping is a very
aggressive person. He attacked others 53 times.
L44[00:31:47] <ping> For example, like
this:
L45[00:31:47] <ping> * ping slaps
self
L46[00:31:53] <ping>
"others"
L48[00:33:30] <ping>
(totallynotaprilfools)
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L52[00:46:06] <ShadowKatStudios>
Waaait
L53[00:47:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Never
mind...
L54[00:47:52] <ShadowKatStudios> So ping,
just pointing out Pixel's post?
L55[00:49:29] <ping> i am pixel
L56[00:50:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Knew
it!
L57[00:50:22] <ShadowKatStudios>
>:D
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L59[00:50:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Why is
there you and then pixel then?
L60[00:50:54] <ping> i dunno
L61[00:54:03] <ping> i just chose ping
because its annoying
L62[00:55:26] <ping> :/ i have 610 more
messages until i can eat again
L63[00:55:33] <ping> else ill get fat
L64[00:56:02] <ping> you know whats
funny
L66[00:58:14] *
ShadowKatStudios is confused
L67[00:58:17] <ShadowKatStudios> What's
wrong with it
L68[00:58:30] <ShadowKatStudios> ? Is this
double-april fools?
L69[00:58:30] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I
couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
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L77[01:39:53] * ping
eats ShadowKatStudios
L78[01:39:54] <^v> ping falls through the
floor and loses 100 hp ( 955 now )
L79[01:39:56] <ping> dammit
L80[01:40:39] <ping> .>
rpg.ping.food=0
L81[01:40:40] <^v> ping, nil
L82[01:40:42] * ping
eats ShadowKatStudios
L83[01:40:43] <^v> ShadowKatStudios makes
ping constipated and loses 3 hp ( 952 now )
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L85[01:40:47] <ping> FUUUUUUUUU
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L87[01:48:09] <ping> welp, i gtg bed
L88[01:48:16] <ping> sorry no ^v
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L92[02:14:28] <ShadowKatStudios> EnderIO
Staff of Travelling are making my life so much easier
L93[02:23:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Somehow, I
wouldn't be surprised if Minecraft's new lead dev was a
cat...
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L108[03:43:29] <Kenny|Sleeping> SKS: you
guys got on me the other day about pinging people when i did a
line. Use that stats line again with ^v and i will put the bot out
the door.
L109[03:44:11] <Kenny|Sleeping> I'm sick
and tired of you people bitching about my scripts/bot and thendo
the same damn thing with another bot
L110[03:50:22] <Bizzycola>
ololol..dreamhost panel is like 90's design right now
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L118[04:29:07] <Michiyo> Bizzycola, oh
holy crap it is.. lmao ♥ DH
L119[04:29:32] <Bizzycola> I found it
amusing for a little while then I switched back :p
L120[04:30:11] <Michiyo> no wai! I want it
forevarz!
L121[04:30:28] <Bizzycola> hah okay
then
L122[04:31:52] <Michiyo> I just grabbed
the style sheet, and added it to stylish for the panel
L123[04:32:22] <Bizzycola> to make sure it
remains like that for good?
L124[04:32:30] <Michiyo> Yeah but it
didn't work :( lol
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L129[04:42:02] <Bizzycola> ahh too bad
then
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L132[05:07:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh.
EnderIO facades actually work
L133[05:09:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Awesome,
I could have like, a bunch of wires and pipes in one block
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L135[05:28:51] <ShadowKatStudios> How much
does Forestry hate modpacks?
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L137[05:36:42] <Bizzycola> I'm so nice. I
couldn't find a good functioning developer console for monogame so
I made my own and then posted it in my blog :p
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L141[05:37:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Right on
queue
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L145[05:57:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Are OC
cables a microblock?
L146[05:57:08] <Kenny> no
L147[05:57:27] <Kenny> not to my
knowledge
L148[05:57:41] <Kenny> i know you can use
microblocks to cover them
L149[05:57:42] <Sangar> they are fmp and
immibis microblock compatible, if that's what you mean
L150[05:57:43] <Sangar> also
L151[05:57:44] <Sangar> o/
L152[05:57:55] <Kenny> hey Sangar :)
L153[05:58:07] <Bizzycola> hi
L154[05:58:23] <Sangar> the hell was with
them netsplits o.O spammed the logs good
L155[05:58:36] <Kenny> i know
L156[05:58:51] <Kenny> it was just the
server you are connected to that was having the issue
L157[05:59:23] <Kenny> i generally connect
to the chaos.esper.net server. it's always seemed more stable
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L159[06:00:12] <ShadowKatStudios> So I can
put twilight oak wood over them?
L160[06:00:32] <Kenny> Sangar: with the
CompViewer now you will need 3 additional files. Gopher's gml.lua
and default.gss, and the CompInfo.txt files
L161[06:01:18] <Kenny> I am doing some
finally polishing to the text file and CompViewer. will be updated
withion the hour
L162[06:01:19] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios,
using fmp or im covers, yes.
L163[06:01:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool,
:D
L164[06:01:45] <Sangar> Kenny, oh, ok.
that's his gui lib, right? i'll have to look into that when i have
the time, sounds really neat.
L165[06:01:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I can
have all my wires hidden, both my power/liquid stuff from EnderIO
and my OC network :D
L166[06:02:19] <Kenny> when you check out
the CompViewer you will get a chance to see what it looks like
:)
L167[06:03:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Also I
found a floppy with IRC on it
L168[06:04:09] <Sangar> Kenny, will do
:)
L169[06:04:19] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios,
oh, cool, so that actually works >_>
L170[06:05:41] <Kenny> ok. all files are
in trhe CompViewer repo now, updated and synced
L171[06:06:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Also, I
know how I'm going to handle my 4-bit emulated processor: Stacks. A
stack will be main memory, and random-access stuff will be
secondary
L172[06:06:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway,
real life stuff to do, AFK
L173[06:07:02] <Kenny> int the main gui
when you launch on it, if you select a component and click the info
button it will bring up any available info for the component
L174[06:07:23] <Michiyo> Kenny, does it
auto download the files it needs if they don't exist by
chance?
L175[06:07:41] <Kenny> no it doesn't
L176[06:07:46] <Michiyo> It should
:P
L177[06:08:17] <Kenny> the info that is
there is on how to use the fucntions for the component....
L178[06:08:34] <Kenny> i have no way of
downloading juist that info for some mods website
L179[06:08:43] <Michiyo> well, you said it
needs gml.lua, and default.gss
L180[06:08:50] <Michiyo> Which is what I
meant.
L181[06:09:05] <Kenny> actually they are
now in the repo with it
L182[06:09:24] <Michiyo> Sure, but why not
make it that much easier?
L183[06:09:45] <Kenny> but fir it to
download the files would require the user have an internet card in
the OC pc
L184[06:10:16] <Michiyo> Sure, check if it
has one, if so, check if libs exist, if not download. if no card,
or libs exist skip.
L185[06:10:27] <Kenny> and my lua is
nowehere near the standard needed to include accessing the internet
and downloading those files
L186[06:10:51] <Michiyo> Give me a
bit
L187[06:10:59] <Kenny> i don't even fully
understand the irc.lua file
L188[06:12:13] <Sangar> you could just
os.execute("wget http://...") :P
L189[06:12:15] <Michiyo> We had to drop CC
support from LC until we can compensate for the 1.6 release of CC,
so I have to write a DHD in OC anyway, I'll see what I can do to
CompViewer while I'm luaing
L190[06:15:42] <Kenny> Sangar: wsith the
1.6 update the OpenComponents api is going to break
L191[06:15:49] <Sangar> well, i'll try it
later. github seems to have borked their ssl or something.
L192[06:16:00] <Sangar> Kenny, what do you
mean?
L193[06:16:15] <Sangar> cc?
L194[06:16:15] <Kenny> they dropped the
IHostedPeripheral
L195[06:16:25] <Kenny> yeah CC
L196[06:16:30] <Michiyo> CC 1.6 changed A
LOT in their API
L197[06:16:40] <Sangar> the latest occ
actually only supports cc1.6 :P someone/i will have to add
backwards compat later
L198[06:16:50] <Michiyo> heh
L199[06:17:12] <Kenny> I haven't checked
OCC lately hehe
L200[06:17:20] <Sangar> Michiyo, not
really. he just moved stuff around and made it so you *have* to
have what was basically a hosted peripheral before, even for tile
entities.
L201[06:18:06] <Michiyo> Well, we used IHP
in LC, which is no longer, from what Lochie was saying there is no
way to have the peripheral do the ticking anymore... or something
to that effect.
L202[06:18:46] <Sangar> ah, the ticking,
right.
L203[06:19:09] <Sangar> i had my stuff in
the te anyway, so i kept it there and the te gets ticked itself, so
i didn't notice :P
L204[06:19:12] <Kenny> ok, CompViewer and
it's required files are now in a separate folder on the
OPenPrograms repo
L205[06:20:00] <Kenny> but LC does have
full OC support :)
L206[06:20:01] <Michiyo> lol yeah, he has
this whole keep the interaction code separate thing... which I find
slightly annoying :P
L207[06:20:38] <Kenny> i know a solution
hehe
L208[06:20:52] <Kenny> make the adapter
block CC compatible lol
L209[06:20:56] <Michiyo> :P
L210[06:21:03] <Sangar> hehe, well it is
more modular. but in some cases it just isn't very... comfortable
:P
L211[06:21:50] <Michiyo> Indeed.
L212[06:21:50] <Sangar> i decided the
optional.* annotations are an ok compromise, so i have most
interaction directly in the tile entities
L213[06:21:54] <Kenny> LC released a new
build today for the RC version :)
L214[06:22:12] <Michiyo> We had them in
the TE for the longest.. but he moved 'em
L215[06:22:12] <Kenny> told Michiyo
earlier there was a wild coincidence to it
L216[06:22:57] <Bizzycola> aww yea I
crashed CC 1.6 before I even placed a block :D
L217[06:23:14] <Kenny> sounds like you
Bizzy hehe
L218[06:23:21] <Sangar> cc1.6 had me quite
confused for a bit, because the iperipheral jdoc still says it goes
into the tile entity :/ i actually had to look at the decompiled
code to figure it out...
L219[06:23:35] <Bizzycola> all I did was
click the creative tab for CC :p
L220[06:24:00] <Michiyo> Yeah I really
don't think Dan cares about the API stuff to much..
L221[06:24:39] <Bizzycola> yea crashed
again, something broken :p
L222[06:24:46] <Sangar> heh, the jdoc for
the new 'equals' method sure makes it look that way
("TODO", that's the full jdoc)
L223[06:25:16] <Sangar> Bizzycola, got
openccsensors in there by any chance?
L224[06:25:33] <Bizzycola> don't think
so
L225[06:25:43] <Sangar> ah well. maybe
some other mod using the old api then.
L227[06:26:21] <Bizzycola> When I click
the creative tab is an odd time to crash
L228[06:26:25] <Michiyo> you don't happen
to have MiscPeripherals, or OpenPeripherals installed do you?
L229[06:26:37] <Sangar> oh wow. that's.
interesting. maybe some third-party peripheral didn't upgrade
properly?
L230[06:26:58] <Bizzycola> doesn't
computronics use the cc api?
L231[06:27:17] <Sangar> hmm, yeah. and it
registers the camera as a turtle upgrade.
L232[06:27:24] <Sangar> i think
L233[06:27:31] <Sangar> at least it does
for robots :P
L234[06:28:47] <Kenny> Sangar: coould it
be his version of OCC?
L235[06:29:05] <Kenny> if he has it
installed
L236[06:29:24] <Sangar> Kenny, i don't
think so, it doesn't register anything with cc, and the crash is in
cc itself.
L237[06:29:35] <Kenny> just wondered
L238[06:29:47] <Bizzycola> I have
OpenComponents and OpenComputers
L239[06:30:04] <Sangar> occ would just log
an exception, failing to load the cc wrapper logic and keep
going
L240[06:30:16] <Michiyo> hmmm I can't seem
to wget github raw files :/
L241[06:30:33] <Sangar> Michiyo, yeah, me
neither, that's what i meant with them derping their ssl
L242[06:30:37] <Michiyo> Ahh
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L244[06:30:43] <Sangar> at least from what
i found on that error
L245[06:30:43] <Kenny> Gopher was saying
something about that same issue yesterday
L246[06:30:49] <Sangar> commonly says its
the servers fault
L248[06:31:20] <Michiyo> Could be
COmputronics as mentioned, if it registers as a new turtle/turtle
upgrade.
L249[06:32:11] <Kenny> also update your
OCC too
L250[06:32:43] <Kenny> dev 28 doesn't
include the CC 1.6 update
L251[06:33:23] <Bizzycola> is the latest
OC build(310) stable enough?
L252[06:33:55] <Kenny>
OCC=OpenComponents
L253[06:34:03] <Bizzycola> I know I'm
updating that too
L254[06:34:27] <Kenny> i've never really
had problems with the OC dev builds
L255[06:34:54] <Kenny> also, if you uise a
dev build, you help find any possible bugs that need fixed :)
L256[06:35:37] <Sangar> occ is generally
pretty stable, since if something blows up it happens in a lua
call, which is always caught
L257[06:36:27] <Michiyo> checking the SSL
cert on raw.githubusercontent.com says there is no SSL Cert found
:/
L258[06:36:41] <Michiyo> but my browser
says SSL is fine.
L259[06:37:07] <Sangar> ditto. not sure
what's going on there :/
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L262[06:38:02] <Bizzycola> the only mod I
have I can imagine would break is computronics :/
L263[06:38:51] <Michiyo> Easy test, remove
it :P
L264[06:40:39] <Bizzycola> lol nope still
crashed
L265[06:41:11] <Sangar> have you tried
with *just* cc?
L266[06:41:34] <Bizzycola> lazy
L267[06:41:34] <Bizzycola> :p
L268[06:41:36] <nekosune> Misc peripherals
source?
L269[06:42:15] <Bizzycola> Could it by any
chance be my forge version?
L270[06:42:18] <Kenny> maybe
redlogic?
L271[06:42:30] <Bizzycola> hmm does that
use the cc api?
L272[06:42:53] <Kenny> i'm not sure but if
it works with CC then it most likely would
L273[06:43:04] <Michiyo> Not currently, CC
made their bundled cable API stuff open so other mods could
interact with it though
L274[06:43:07] <Michiyo> so in short,
no.
L275[06:43:32] <Michiyo> Also, it's a
turtle item issue, so it has to be something adding turtle
upgrades, or atleat I think it would.
L276[06:43:54] <Bizzycola> imma try with
just cc
L277[06:44:10] <Bizzycola> if it still
doesn't work then I'll just ditch it :p
L278[06:44:29] <Michiyo> Looks like
something is reflecting into CC, I could be wrong though
L279[06:44:31] <Kenny> i wonder if it
could be Logistics Pipes
L280[06:44:35] <Bizzycola> nope still
crashed
L281[06:44:42] <Bizzycola> what ever it is
it isn't related to any other mods
L282[06:44:50] <Bizzycola> my forge must
just be outdated
L283[06:44:50] <Kenny> then it must be CC
itself lol
L284[06:44:51] <Michiyo> o_O lol... I have
no issue with CC alone :P
L285[06:45:00] <Michiyo> what Forge
build?
L286[06:45:21] <Bizzycola>
6.4.49.965
L287[06:45:36] <Michiyo> Should be fine...
965 is the latest 1.6.4 Forge
L288[06:45:37] <Bizzycola> thats the forge
mod loader version from my forge log
L289[06:45:41] <Sangar> also try to test
it in a new world
L290[06:45:42] <Bizzycola> huh
L291[06:45:44] <Bizzycola> then I have no
idea :p
L292[06:45:47] <Sangar> if you didn't
already
L293[06:45:50] <Michiyo> Yeah try a new
world..
L294[06:45:53] <Bizzycola> ok
L295[06:46:04] <Bizzycola> my world had
nothing from any mods in it yet though
L296[06:46:16] <Sangar> doesn't matter, if
it's an id issue
L297[06:46:22] ***
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L298[06:47:21] <Bizzycola> nope still
crashed
L299[06:47:22] <Bizzycola> iLol
L300[06:47:25] <Michiyo> o_O
L301[06:47:32] <Michiyo> O_o
L302[06:47:49] <Michiyo> 1.6 loads with no
issue for me on 965
L303[06:48:09] <Sangar> 1.6 or 1.61?
L304[06:48:27] <Michiyo> 1.61 IIRC
L305[06:48:42] <Sangar> magic
L307[06:51:00] <Bizzycola> still, doesn't
crash until I actually click the creative icon for CC :p
L308[06:51:07] <Bizzycola> second I whack
that tab it explodes
L309[06:51:21] <Michiyo> and wat...
L310[06:51:23] <Michiyo> now I crash
too
L311[06:51:28] <Michiyo> dafuq, you cursed
meh!
L312[06:51:35] <Bizzycola> olo
L313[06:51:38] <Bizzycola> gj dan
L314[06:51:49] *
Michiyo rage
L315[06:51:53] <Michiyo> ♥ OC
L316[06:52:21] <Bizzycola> literally
L317[06:52:25] <Bizzycola> I can just use
/give command
L318[06:52:26] <Bizzycola> and it works
fine
L319[06:52:43] <Bizzycola> It only crashes
if I view the creative tab :p
L320[06:52:47] <Michiyo> It's something to
do with a turtle... a specific turtle I'm betting
L321[06:53:00] <Bizzycola> Maybe he forgot
to include a texture :p
L322[06:53:44] <Michiyo> a texture
wouldn't cause that I don't think lol
L323[06:54:54] ***
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L324[06:55:33] <Bizzycola> all I can guess
it is related to adding one of the turtles to the creative
tab
L325[06:56:25] <Bizzycola> I'll just go
create a bug report on the cc forums and go back to 1.58
L326[06:56:49] <Bizzycola> find out whats
new in oc since I laste updated it :p
L327[06:57:57] ***
Death||Away is now known as [EA]Death
L328[07:01:34] <Bizzycola> Ok I left them
a bug report post, they can deal with it :p
L329[07:04:57] ***
[EA]Death is now known as [E[A]]Death
L330[07:04:58] <Sangar> a propos bugs, if
someone could test the latest build(s) that'd be nice. i'd like to
push 1.2.5 today or tomorrow.
L331[07:05:37] <Sangar> (310/111
i.e.)
L332[07:05:48] <Bizzycola> I just
downloaded the newest build of CC a while ago, 310 was it?
L333[07:05:58] <Bizzycola> Playing with it
now. I had build before 1.2.4 before p
L334[07:06:11] <Bizzycola> whats new in
1.2.5?
L335[07:06:23] <Bizzycola> or will be when
you release it anyway
L336[07:06:43] <Sangar> mostly fixes and
texture rework
L337[07:07:05] <Sangar> and cc1.6
compat
L338[07:07:12] <Bizzycola> ahh
L339[07:07:26] <Bizzycola> Do computers
still rage if you hook them together directly? :p
L340[07:07:29] <Kenny> will it bork if you
have CC 1.58 installed?
L341[07:07:35] <Bizzycola> I remember that
was confusing
L342[07:07:39] <Sangar> oc should be
compatible with both cc1.5 and 1.6
L343[07:07:50] <Bizzycola> I have the
latest OC/OCC builds and CC 1.57
L344[07:07:51] <Bizzycola> 8*
L345[07:08:11] <Bizzycola> nice screen
texture btw
L346[07:08:23] <Sangar> if by 'rage' you
mean randomly pick a screen/component overload, yes. that won't
change :P
L347[07:08:28] <Sangar> thanks
L348[07:08:39] <Bizzycola> Oh okay
:p
L349[07:09:43] <Kenny> i still love that
Knight Ridedr effect on robots hehe
L350[07:10:34] <Kenny> did you retexture
the cases too?
L351[07:11:11] <Sangar> not really, just
adjusted the brightness a little so that all blocks match
now.
L352[07:11:27] <Michiyo> Ok... I wrote a
dirty https -> http proxy to get around the github stupidness
:P
L353[07:11:29] <Kenny> if not, i've done
too much programming and never notice. if so, I like the way they
look now
L354[07:11:45] <Bizzycola> my text on the
screen starts nearly at the bottom of the top row of screens. Is
that jus a resolution thing? Like the size of my monitors? :p
L355[07:12:10] <Bizzycola> yea it is
L356[07:12:28] <Sangar> main trigger for
the retexture were the charges, i didn't like them :P
L357[07:12:33] <Bizzycola> the wide it
gets the higher it goes :p
L358[07:12:56] <Sangar> yeah, it's
centered
L359[07:13:01] <Sangar> afk, teatime
L360[07:13:07] <Michiyo> Ugh I need to
write a pastebin replacement to point to my stikked site..
L361[07:13:45] <Bizzycola> I've never made
a screen laying down before
L362[07:14:51] <Bizzycola> is there
actually any way to tell how much charge is in a capacitor?
L363[07:15:04] <Kenny> CompViewer
overloads it now and computer shuts down
L364[07:15:32] <Kenny> if i click on the
info button
L365[07:15:44] <Bizzycola> CompViewer is
somewhere on that openprograms repo right? I should try it out
:p
L366[07:15:53] <Kenny> yep
L367[07:16:03] <Kenny> it's under
Kenny-Programs
L368[07:16:07] <Michiyo> I'm working on
making it auto download libs if HTTP is available
L369[07:16:26] <Kenny> cool
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L371[07:16:30] <Kenny> \o
L372[07:16:30]
zsh sets mode: +v on Gopher
L373[07:16:52] <Kenny> at the moment i
have to figure out what has happened that causes the computer to
shut down when clicking on the info button
L374[07:17:03] <Gopher> O_o
L375[07:17:10] <Kenny> it worked earlier,
now the computer overloads and shuts down
L376[07:17:33] <Kenny> new dev build
Gopher
L377[07:17:59] <Kenny> i'm using a new dev
build that is
L378[07:18:52] <Kenny> has to be due to
the string parsing
L379[07:20:08] <Kenny> but i don't
understand why. there was no problem before
L380[07:20:51] <Kenny> Sangar: has there
been any change to the filesystem code?
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L382[07:22:14] <Kenny> Waila, Bizzy
L383[07:24:01] <Bizzycola> what do I
require for gfxbuffer.lua?
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L385[07:24:37] <Bizzycola> I am not sure I
know what waila actually is :p
L386[07:24:45] <Kenny> it is a mod
L387[07:24:52] <[EA]Death> "What am I
looking at"
L388[07:24:57] <Kenny> Waila = What Am I
Looking At
L389[07:25:02] <[EA]Death> gives
information about the currently targeted block
L390[07:25:05] <Bizzycola> Ohh thats
useful :p
L391[07:25:12] <Bizzycola> wondered what
did that
L392[07:25:18] <Gopher> yes, gfxbuffer.lua
is required by gml.lua
L393[07:25:28] <Bizzycola> where do I find
it? :p
L394[07:25:33] <Gopher> also
default.gss
L395[07:25:39] <Bizzycola> I got
default.gss
L396[07:25:46] <Bizzycola> I have what
ever was included with compviewer
L397[07:25:48] <Gopher> same repo as
gml.lua, OpenPrograms/Gophers-Programs
L398[07:25:57] <Gopher> ah.
L399[07:26:17] <Bizzycola> I'll grab the
latest from yours
L400[07:27:20] <Bizzycola> do I need
canvas/colorutils as well?
L401[07:27:31] <Bizzycola> ..yup :p
L402[07:27:35] <Gopher> not canvas
L403[07:27:49] <Gopher> but colorutils,
pretty sure buffer uses a few functions from
L404[07:28:07] <Bizzycola> this is awesome
:p
L405[07:28:28] <Gopher> since yer
downloading everything anyway, check out the official sample
programs XD
L406[07:28:32] <Bizzycola> ooh I broke it
I win
L407[07:29:22] <Bizzycola> gml from
compviewer is probably just older then the gfxbuffer thing
L408[07:29:44] <Gopher> possibly, not sure
when the last time kenny sync'd was
L410[07:30:04] <Gopher> should be
compatible tho? I ran cv with the latest gml last night, and I
haven't updated gml sicne then
L411[07:30:43] <Bizzycola> ehh
L412[07:30:46] <Bizzycola> I used your
gml
L413[07:30:48] <Bizzycola> still broke
:p
L414[07:31:00] <Bizzycola> Well I win GML
too
L415[07:31:17] <Bizzycola> Seriously, is
there anything I can't break? :p
L416[07:31:33] <Gopher> lol.
L417[07:31:35] <Kenny> updated CompViewer
repo to include g\fxbuffer
L418[07:31:40] <Gopher> try the gml
example programs.
L419[07:31:48] <Bizzycola> k
L420[07:32:00] <Gopher> I doubt you'll
break them, but if you do, I'll be glad for the bug reports
XD
L421[07:32:42] <Bizzycola> Just incase: to
do it I clicked on one of the components, then clicked a function,
then info, breaks when I click back in info
L422[07:33:45] <Bizzycola> Using your
test, every time I input one character into that input box it shows
up twice
L423[07:33:48] <Bizzycola> was that
intentional?
L424[07:33:51] <Gopher> O_o
L426[07:34:15] <Gopher> that..doesn't
happen for me
L427[07:34:22] <Bizzycola> :P
L428[07:34:32] <Bizzycola> See, I can
break anything!
L429[07:34:52] <Gopher> That really
doesn't make sense, actually
L430[07:34:53] <Kenny> all files in the
CompViewer repo are now current
L431[07:34:58] <Bizzycola> doesn't reset
background after closing
L433[07:35:22] <Gopher> yeah, I'm not
entirely sure O_o
L434[07:35:27] <Bizzycola> hah
L435[07:35:28] <Bizzycola> I win :p
L436[07:35:30] <Gopher> ok, that's not
what I thoguth you meant
L437[07:35:40] <Bizzycola> oic
L438[07:35:43] <Gopher> Oh, n/m, brain
fail parsing image
L439[07:36:21] <Gopher> yeah, I was aware
of that. It's supposed to be resetting, but apparently something
somewhere is changing the color before it grabs to preserve
it
L440[07:36:40] <Bizzycola> ah
L441[07:36:43] <Kenny> when you exit out
of your example it keeps the gui colors rather than resetting back
to the originasl screen colors
L442[07:37:01] <Gopher> actually...
:facepalm: I know what's causing that actually.
L443[07:37:15] <Gopher> Was scratching my
head at it last time I was coding, but just realised
L444[07:37:19] <Bizzycola> So the double
letters is not sense making/ :p
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L447[07:37:47] <Bizzycola> it's okay, I
used clear so now my entire screen is light grey
L448[07:38:20] <Gopher> there, fixed
L449[07:38:46] <Bizzycola> now if I can
manage to break this version of OC too I win a cookie right?
L450[07:39:56] <Kenny> you synced
Gopher?
L451[07:39:57] <MrHohenheim> hello
L452[07:40:00] <Gopher> not yet
L453[07:40:03] <Bizzycola> least i managed
to break compviewer nd the gml test, that's something :p
L454[07:40:26] <Gopher> were you testing
on latest dev version of oc?
L455[07:40:33] <Bizzycola> yea
L456[07:40:40] <Kenny> Actually CompViewer
is borking with the current version for solme reason
L457[07:41:07] <Bizzycola> Gopher: That
dupe char bug doesn't occur on the file viewer
L458[07:41:22] <Gopher> that dupe char bug
makes zero sense
L459[07:41:31] <Bizzycola> :p
L460[07:41:47] <Gopher> I don't mean
"it's very odd"
L461[07:42:05] <Sangar> Bizzycola,
regarding charge in a capacitor, there's also the analyzer
L462[07:42:09] <Gopher> I mean "I
wrote every bit of that code and can not concieve of any
combination of circumstances short of you running event hooks that
duplicate events that could lead to that"
L463[07:42:10] <Bizzycola> trust me to
destroy things in ways that aren't possible
L464[07:42:18] <Sangar> Kenny, filesystem
not really i don't think, why?
L465[07:42:27] <Bizzycola> Oh the
analyzer, never thought to try that :p
L466[07:42:40] <Kenny> CompViewer is
causing the computer to shut down
L467[07:42:54] <Bizzycola> I didn't get
that effect o.O
L468[07:43:04] <Kenny> it only does it on
the info section and that does a file read and then parses the
data
L469[07:43:30] <Bizzycola> what does the
analyzer say about that?
L470[07:43:39] <Kenny> it will open the
info gui and then shut down
L471[07:43:55] <Sangar> timeout or out of
energy or some other error?
L472[07:44:12] <Kenny> has to be a
timeout
L473[07:44:12] <Bizzycola> well I opened
the info for gpu and thats got lots of text, didn't splode my
computer
L474[07:44:28] <Kenny> i have a 9 core
nuclear reactor powering it hehe
L475[07:44:32] <Bizzycola> also the info
close seems to have resolved wiht a newer gml
L476[07:45:34] <Kenny> changed the config
and relaunching the game. see if that was the issue
L477[07:45:50] <Kenny> it had no effect in
my previous version of OC
L478[07:46:07] <Kenny> but then i was
using build 287 so was way out of date
L479[07:47:27] <Kenny> that's what it
was
L480[07:47:52] <Kenny> config had a
timeout of 1 sec. though this has never caused an issue
before
L481[07:52:14] <Bizzycola> I wonder how
many RiM lik mods there are. I've never successfully built a door
with RiM :p
L482[07:54:14] <Gopher> I haven't played
with any of the mods of that type since RP frames a loong time
ago
L483[07:54:15] <Michiyo> Hmmm... why can I
not write to my HDD...
L484[07:55:28] <Gopher> ... for some
reason it's suddenly taking a few seconds for programs using my
guis to launch. I would swear this was not the case until I fixed
the cleanup thing, which was a couple of lines that only run when
the gui is closing, and so couldn't affect startup time.
L485[07:56:03] <Bizzycola> odd
L486[07:56:22] <Bizzycola> I have to sit
and think of what I will create with your GUIs :p
L487[07:56:39] <Michiyo> o_O why is my HDD
in read only mode.. lol
L489[07:58:35] <Bizzycola> what
version?
L490[07:58:37] <Kenny> you have RiM and
one other (can't remember name)
L491[07:58:39] <Michiyo> Yes.
L492[07:58:48] <Sangar> Gopher, the only
thing I can think of is this: when the computer is low on free
memory the read buffer is automatically downsized (to avoid out of
memory), leading to slower reads.
L493[07:58:49] <Michiyo> Lemme go check
version
L494[07:58:49] <Michiyo> lol
L495[07:59:05] <Kenny> Michiyo: did you
label it?
L496[07:59:11] <Michiyo> kenny yes..
L497[07:59:19] <Michiyo> It auto mounts
with a autorun to
L498[07:59:20] <Kenny> di you use the
-a
L499[07:59:28] <Gopher> Sangar, but the
new delay is persisting through complete shutdowns and restarts of
minecraft...
L500[07:59:46] <Sangar> Michiyo, tried
taking it out and put it back in again? no idea why it'd go into
readonly in the first place, tho
L501[08:00:03] <Michiyo> Yep, also powered
the computer off and on
L502[08:00:09] <Michiyo> going to try
upgrading I'm on 1.2.3 it seems
L503[08:00:21] <Gopher> it's been at least
a week since I rebooted my actual computer, maybe it's windows
that's having the issue.
L504[08:00:22] <Sangar> Gopher, weird.
still, try throwing some more ram into the computer if possible,
see if that speeds it up?
L505[08:00:31] <Michiyo> This is my dev
env, so I forgot to update it
L506[08:00:31] <Gopher> oh, it's got max,
sangar
L507[08:00:36] <Sangar> hmmm, if it's
unbuffered, maybe
L508[08:00:44] <Gopher> it's in my
creative world, so 2x tier III.
L509[08:00:45] <Sangar> oh, then it should
not be that :P
L510[08:00:50] <Gopher> er, 3.6
L511[08:00:54] <Gopher> 3.5 even
L512[08:01:51] <Michiyo> Yeah it's
unbuffered
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L514[08:01:56] <Sangar> definitely not
that then. no idea :/ i'd have to check the commit logs to be sure,
but i don't think i touched the filesystem recently (except the cc
related stuff, for 1.6)
L515[08:02:14] <Sangar> Michiyo, huh,
that's... really weird then.
L516[08:02:49] <Michiyo> and updated ad
ugh OC API exception :P
L517[08:03:48] <Michiyo> woah... very
errory
L518[08:03:54] <Gopher> it's clearly
something in gml, added some prints to the test program, everything
until gui:run() is happening as fast as ever
L519[08:03:55] <Sangar> ad ugh? :X
L520[08:04:00] <Michiyo> and ugh*
L521[08:04:01] <Michiyo> lol
L522[08:04:06] <Sangar> ah :D
L523[08:04:19] <Michiyo> Error
initializing handler for 'IC2'
L524[08:04:19] <Michiyo>
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
li.cil.oc.api.Driver.add(Lli/cil/oc/api/driver/Converter;)V
L525[08:04:54] <Michiyo>
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
dan200.computercraft.ComputerCraft
L526[08:04:54] <Michiyo> at
net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:97)
L527[08:04:56] <Michiyo> etc :P
L528[08:05:43] <Sangar> hum, well the
first one, that's been in the api for a while now.
L529[08:05:47] <Sangar> i guess is could
still try-catch it.
L530[08:05:48] <Kenny> Gopher: the files
ikn the COmpViewer repo have all been updated
L531[08:05:59] <Kenny> also the txt fike
has been formatted
L532[08:06:05] <Kenny> file*
L533[08:06:24] <Sangar> Michiyo, hold on,
that from the same stacktrace?
L534[08:07:18] <Gopher> ok, seems to be
the loop that gets and saves the screen's state, but the only thing
that's changed there is it's reading through a gfxbuffer now. I
should've noticed before now tho...
L535[08:07:26] <Sangar> dafuq. me having a
villager skin is hopefully aprils fools and not someone having
hacked my account? ^.-
L536[08:07:52] <Michiyo> Yes Sangar April
fools joke
L537[08:08:14] <nekosune> heehee
L538[08:08:16] <Sangar> good. was a little
worried because exactly that happened to friend a month or so
back... :P
L539[08:08:18] <Michiyo> And yeah, its
from the crash log
L542[08:09:08] <Bizzycola> probs april
fools :p
L543[08:09:16] <Bizzycola> I are ghost
man
L544[08:09:39] <Sangar> Michiyo, hmmm, i
think i know what's causing it, but i don't really get why.
L545[08:09:48] <Sangar> Bizzycola, oh,
also nice. great for pvp :>
L546[08:10:00] <Bizzycola> hah true
:p
L547[08:10:05] <Bizzycola> I should put on
armor for fun
L548[08:10:39] <Bizzycola> now I am
wearing chainmail
L549[08:10:57] <Gopher> ok, no idea why I
didn't notice sooner but it's the automatic flush being called in
gfxbuffer:get before it calls it's parent's get
L550[08:11:06] <Gopher> but.. that
shouldn't be doing anything. Nothing significant, anyway.
L551[08:11:17] <Gopher> the buffer is
empty, if not for the first get call then certainly for the
rest
L552[08:13:13] <Gopher> huh. Added a quick
return if table empty at start, and it's fine now.
L553[08:13:27] <Gopher> the odd part is
why I wasn't noticing this before
L554[08:13:46] <Gopher> if it actually
just started being slow, why? and if not, how the hell was I not
noticing a 3-second delay yesterday? lol
L555[08:14:03] <Kenny> it's been slow for
me all along
L556[08:14:32] <Kenny> but i assumed it
was because of the extra gui stuff i added in
L557[08:14:57] <Gopher> have gmltest and
savedlg been literally 3 seconds to draw the gui for you tho?
L558[08:15:01] <Gopher> in fact, are they
currently?
L559[08:16:27] <Kenny> a little but not
really significantly
L560[08:16:52] <Gopher> well, whatever
made it start happening to me, I've sync'd a fix that prevents it
:P
L562[08:17:19] <Kenny> gmltest has
been
L563[08:17:46] <Kenny> there is like a 2
second delay before it opens
L564[08:18:02] *
Gopher sees the +te-bc crash bug report
L565[08:18:15] <Gopher> I'm using that
config in 1.2.4 release and not getting that...
L566[08:18:21] <Michiyo> I'll check in a
second, I just updated LC's OC API
L567[08:18:31] <Gopher> oh,w ait
:checks:
L568[08:19:05] <Gopher> nope. I do have UE
installed as well.
L569[08:20:33] <Sangar> Michiyo, it was
using the api from the oc jar, otherwise it wouldn't have had
problems finding the cc1.6 api i guess. the jar i linked should
strip those references from the oc api if cc1.6 api isn't present.
should. :P
L570[08:20:41] <Gopher> I think the
previous version of TE had a bug that made it require BC, at least
part A, tho, or it gave some crashes related to power
conduits/dynamos
L571[08:20:52] *
Gopher should be posting this in the issue comments :P
L572[08:21:20] <Michiyo> Well, I needed to
update our API anyway for compile :P
L573[08:21:38] <Gopher> ah, no point,
apparently dev build fixed.
L574[08:22:06] <Sangar> Gopher, yeah. not
exactly sure why, but I'm not complaining :P
L575[08:22:55] <Michiyo> [OpenComponents]
Error initializing handler for 'IC2' using your latest link
L576[08:23:14] <Michiyo> Then a fatal
error: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
li.cil.oc.api.Driver.add(Lli/cil/oc/api/driver/Converter;)V
L577[08:23:21] <Gopher> why the hell
doesn't NEI remember your settings per-save...
L578[08:23:26] <Sangar> oh, that was in
occ?
L579[08:23:38] <Gopher> I'm constantly
forgetting to switch between cheat/recipe mode when switching
ebtween survival and creative saves
L580[08:23:46] <Michiyo> the IC2 catch
was
L581[08:23:54] <Michiyo> the fatel
crashing error is in OpenComputers
L582[08:24:14] <Michiyo> Caught exception
from OpenComputers java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
li.cil.oc.api.Driver.add(Lli/cil/oc/api/driver/Converter;)V
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L584[08:25:16] <Sangar> oh, i'm an idiot.
i didn't scroll down in the crashlog you posted *reads*
L585[08:25:40] <Michiyo> last ditch,
updating UE heh
L586[08:26:00] <Michiyo> nerp heh
L587[08:27:23] <Sangar> that still happens
with the updated oc api in lc?
L588[08:27:32] <Michiyo> running the 310
API, and the jar you linked
L589[08:28:05] <Sangar> hrm. so good news,
the adjustment in that jar is probably unnecessary.
L590[08:28:18] *
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L591[08:28:21] <Michiyo> I'm a tard.
L592[08:28:29] <Sangar> \o/
L593[08:28:33] <Sangar> welcome to the
club
L594[08:28:37] <Michiyo> refreshed the
project and oh look...
L595[08:28:45] <Sangar> heh
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L597[08:29:10] <Michiyo> and now my drive
isn't in readonly
L598[08:29:11] <Michiyo> lol
L599[08:29:55] <Sangar> regarding the cc
trace, use an earlier occ to avoid that, latest only supports cc1.6
right now (backwards compat to be added later)
L601[08:30:23] <Sangar> oh, good. no idea
why it was readonly, but as long as it works again :P
L602[08:30:34] <Michiyo> lol
L603[08:30:50] <Sangar> also, +1 for
/sda1
L604[08:30:51] <Kenny> colors?
L605[08:31:10] <Michiyo> gml is looking
for colorutils
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L607[08:31:28] <Michiyo> Sangar, :D
L608[08:31:57] <Kenny> just added it to
the repo
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L610[08:33:42] <Michiyo> hmmmmm
gml.lua:280: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' table expected, got
nil
L611[08:34:03] <tgame14> Sangar, you make
it a whole resource collection to make a robot :P
L612[08:35:38] <Sangar> tgame14, hehe,
well. don't even try the hardmode recipes :P
L613[08:36:22] <tgame14> lol
L614[08:37:03] <tgame14> fine, ill add to
the UE api to make power 1000000x more for OC
L615[08:37:28] <Sangar> i was tempted to
use end stone to justify the floating. but i wanted to use them
before going to the end :P
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L617[08:37:37] <tgame14> lol :P
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L619[08:37:41] <tgame14> Hard Mode it
:P
L620[08:37:46] <tgame14> make robots take
dragon eggs
L621[08:38:02] <Sangar> 'm' mode? :P
L622[08:38:13] <tgame14> 'm' mode ?
L623[08:38:19] <tgame14> master mode
:P
L624[08:38:25] <Sangar> maso :P
L625[08:38:30] <Gopher> lol.
L626[08:38:33] <tgame14> maso ?
L627[08:38:38] <Sangar> s&m?
L628[08:38:42] <tgame14> Ah
L629[08:38:48] <tgame14> :P
L630[08:39:03] <Gopher> Robots could be a
bit more expensive, granted, but /requiring/ a trip to the end
would be a bit extreme
L631[08:39:10] <tgame14> no they
dont
L632[08:39:11] <Michiyo> Oh I see... wat
Github you're drunk
L633[08:39:13] <Sangar> ^
L634[08:39:17] <Michiyo> the raw output
for default.gss is blank..
L635[08:39:18] <tgame14> they dont need to
be more expensive
L636[08:39:20] <Gopher> they don't even
require anything from the nether, do they?
L637[08:39:28] <Gopher> tgame, normal
recipes I agree
L638[08:39:37] <Gopher> hardmode recipes
seem easy tho
L639[08:39:38] <Sangar> they don't
L640[08:40:14] <Sangar> hardmode is easy?
ok.
L641[08:40:28] <Gopher> not in general,
just the turtle recipes in particular lol
L642[08:40:41] <Sangar> ah, ok.
L643[08:40:42] <Gopher> s/turtle/robot
<_<
L644[08:40:59] <Sangar> just wanted to
say, press alt hovering a t3 gpu in hardmode :P
L645[08:41:10] <tgame14> alt ? :P
L646[08:41:27] *
Michiyo stabs github
L647[08:41:32] <Sangar> little helper i
left in from balancing the recipes, shows the basic ingredients
needed
L648[08:41:45] <tgame14> omg!
L649[08:41:49] <tgame14> that is super
helpful
L650[08:42:04] *
tgame14 steals idea and code from github
L651[08:42:10] <Sangar> :D
L652[08:42:24] <Gopher> O_o wow, doing
that on turtles, ok, that's a bit more expensive than it
seemed
L653[08:42:42] <Gopher> do they really
take 18 water buckets? :checks:
L654[08:42:42] <tgame14> did you write
down all basic ingredients or is it calculated?
L655[08:42:50] <Michiyo> Hmm, ok so
Gopher's default.gss is fine in raw output.. but Kenny's is
borked
L656[08:42:59] <Gopher> oh, right, the 3x
grog per mem
L657[08:43:04] <Sangar> there are a few
manual "terminators". otherwise it stops when it
encounters a cycle
L658[08:43:05] <tgame14> Sangar, point me
in the general direction to where in code that is?
L659[08:43:19] <Sangar> util
something
L660[08:43:22] <Sangar> itemcosts or
so
L661[08:43:33] <Gopher> Michiyo: some
files that have passed through kenny have wound up with old dos
mode, \r\n, newlines.
L662[08:43:41] <tgame14> And about me
implementing something similar into Calclavia Core
L663[08:43:42] <Gopher> which oc doesn't
like at all
L664[08:43:49] <tgame14> do you mind? if
you do thats no problem, i wont add it
L665[08:43:54] <Michiyo> well it's not
that
L666[08:44:06] <Sangar> tgame14, sure,
please do :)
L668[08:44:12] <tgame14> \o/
L669[08:44:17] <Michiyo> yours is fine
using raw
L670[08:44:23] <Kenny> i don't see how.
the gui files i put in the repo are the exact same ones i got from
him
L671[08:44:34] <Kenny> i haven't touched
them
L672[08:44:44] <tgame14> Sangar, where is
your github ?
L673[08:44:48] <tgame14> using pirates or
somethign
L674[08:44:53] <Gopher> yeah, I don't see
why that file would've even been edited on your end either. Just
know that was the issue with the CompInfo.txt file
L675[08:44:55] <Sangar> one sec
L677[08:45:06] <Gopher> manually processed
the \r\ns into just \n and it worked fine
L678[08:45:37] <Gopher> not sure if lua's
patterns even recognize \13 as whitespace
L679[08:45:49] <Kenny> i redid the
CompInfo.txt file earlier
L680[08:46:10] <Kenny> took out all tabs
and added in spaces
L681[08:46:22] <Gopher> hmm. I guess there
is rather a lot of iron in the robots on hardmode.
L682[08:46:51] <tgame14> Sangar, beautiful
idea :P
L683[08:46:53] <Kenny> i'm still trying
figure out how the files in the repo are borked
L684[08:46:54] <Gopher> 48 ingots + 18
buckets, which is another 54 iron
L685[08:47:19] <Gopher> yeah. In iron
costs anyway, that's not trivial.
L686[08:47:21] <Michiyo> ok still getting
gml.lua:280: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' table expected, got
nil
L687[08:47:38] <tgame14> Sangar, im kinda
considering putting that into every item in game
L688[08:47:40] <Sangar> tgame14, thanks :)
it may be a little unrefined in places, was mainly for debugging.
if you improve it please let me know!
L689[08:47:49] <tgame14> Sangar, definetly
will
L690[08:48:04] <Sangar> tgame14, yeah,
someone suggested making it a feature (request) for nei :P
L691[08:48:30] <tgame14> Screw NEI this is
going into CalCore
L692[08:48:34] <Sangar> :D
L693[08:49:56] <Michiyo> Gopher, any
idea?
L694[08:50:20] <Gopher> sorry, was
distracted, looking at line 280
L695[08:50:49] <Gopher> hmm. where do have
default.gss stored?
L696[08:50:51] <Michiyo> I have
default.gss in the same directory as gml.lua
L697[08:51:02] <Gopher> in the lib
path?
L698[08:51:17] <Michiyo> ahh no, I have
them exactly how Kenny has them in github
L699[08:51:20] <Gopher> that's where it
looks for it.
L700[08:51:21] <Michiyo> everything in one
folder..
L701[08:51:29] <Gopher> well, it also
checks working directory
L703[08:52:25] <Kenny> that's how i'm
using them on my system, all in one folder
L704[08:52:27] <Gopher> if gml is loaded
already and couldn't find it, you'd have to unload it to get it to
reload
L705[08:52:38] <Gopher> I should make it
check, I guess, when creating a gui
L706[08:52:42] <Michiyo> I download
default.gss before gml is required in
L707[08:52:46] <Gopher> and try again to
load if it's not already loaded
L708[08:53:20] *
Gopher issues that so he doesn't forget
L709[08:57:16] <Gopher> it should find it
actually
L710[08:57:35] <Gopher> because in
addition to lib path, it checks the working directory and the
directory containing the currently running program, as reported by
shell
L711[08:58:52] <Gopher> but it only tries
to load the style once, if that fails it won't try again until the
api is unloaded and reloaded
L712[08:59:10] <Gopher> so a computer
reboot might fix it if you had a blank default.gss at first
L713[08:59:18] <Gopher> oh, and re: the
raw downloading blank
L714[08:59:35] <Gopher> I've found the
exact same files sometimes coming up blank using my gitrepo script,
same urls
L715[08:59:40] <Gopher> just every now and
then one comes out blank
L716[09:00:08] <Michiyo> Ahh a reboot did
fix it... odd
L717[09:00:25] <Michiyo> I went from no
libraries, to everything needed to run comp viewer, and manually
downloaded only compviewer
L718[09:00:28] <Gopher> it loads the
default style once on api load and keeps it cached
L719[09:00:55] <Gopher> and the os keeps
apis cached, doesn't reload them unless you reboot or manually
unload
L720[09:02:13] <Michiyo> huh, good to
know, thanks.
L721[09:02:33] <Gopher> you can force a
reload without rebooting by doing
package.loaded.(apiname)=nil
L722[09:02:50] <Gopher> my test programs
all do that just for convenience while testing
L723[09:03:58] <Gopher> fermented spider
eyes >.< Why couldn't the dungeon under my base have been a
spider dungeon instead of a skele dungeon
L724[09:05:48] <Gopher> stupid wheat farm.
I swear, it's like wheat does a test "if there's less than 10
wheat growing nearby, drop 0-1 seeds else drop 1-3
seeds"
L725[09:06:43] <Michiyo> hmm... I get a
blank screen when trying to get info on a component..
L726[09:07:03] <Gopher> which component?
there's not info on all yet last I checked.
L727[09:07:08] <Gopher> computer should
have info, and filesystem
L728[09:07:44] <Michiyo> computer ->
isRunning -> Info is blank
L729[09:07:49] <Michiyo> all of them are
it seems
L730[09:08:49] <Michiyo> oh, filesystem
-> address is a blank gray screen
L731[09:11:56] <tgame14> Sangar i get an
error
L732[09:12:31] <tgame14> wait wait
wait
L733[09:12:36] <tgame14> you can have
methods in methods ??
L734[09:12:57] <Sangar> tgame14, yes you
can. also, what error?
L735[09:13:16] <tgame14> on recipe =
blalball
L738[09:14:30] <tgame14> Also, point with
methods inside methods ??
L739[09:15:18] <Gopher> tgame14: you can
have functions anywhere in lua.
L740[09:15:27] <Gopher> Functions are just
another variable type. :)
L741[09:15:29] <Sangar> hum, interesting.
try renaming the inner 'recipe'
L742[09:15:33] <Sangar> Gopher, it's Scala
;)
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L744[09:15:58] <Gopher> oh. Well, same.
Also python and many other languages, heh
L746[09:16:39] <Sangar> but yes. also the
point is that they are just more... local. like you can have
private classes basically.
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L748[09:16:56] <tgame14> i understand,
sort of
L749[09:17:48] <Sangar> tgame14, this
is... i don't understand why it doesn't error for me -.- make it
recipe: IRecipe =>, that *should* solve it.
L750[09:18:48] <Sangar> and yes, they
could just be private methods of the containing class, but it's fun
trying out language features :P
L751[09:19:46] <tgame14> makes the method
much harder to read imo
L753[09:19:48] <tgame14> now i get this
:/
L754[09:19:49] <Sangar> they are more
useful when used as closures (i.e. when they access variables
declared in the containing method, so you don't have to pass them
as arguments all the time)
L755[09:20:13] <Gopher> I dunno scala
really. does it have first-class functions, or just local ones in
all contexts?
L756[09:20:18] <Sangar> wat
L757[09:20:55] <Sangar> Gopher, it has
first-class functions / closures
L758[09:21:02] <Gopher> cool, cool.
L759[09:21:17] <Sangar> tgame14, this
doesn't make sense to me :(
L760[09:21:32] <tgame14> :/
L761[09:21:56] <Sangar> is it only the ide
or does this also error when compiling?
L762[09:22:10] <tgame14> ill check
L763[09:22:44] <Sangar> oh hold on
L764[09:23:12] <Sangar> you changed the
recipe => to variable => but didn't change where it's used :P
(it should be variable.getRecipeOutput now)
L765[09:25:07] <Sangar> tgame14, try val
recipe = recipes.find((recipe: IRecipe) =>
recipe.getRecipeOutput != null && fuzzyEquals(stack,
recipe.getRecipeOutput))
L766[09:29:31] <tgame14> no erro
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L801[10:45:10] <Gopher> been out spider
hunting for several mc days, still need 7 more spider eyes to make
a robot >.<
L802[10:46:08] <Gopher> the temptation to
build a glowstone-piston xray machine to look for dungeons is
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L805[10:50:40] <ping> \o/
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L807[10:52:05] <Kenny> \o
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L809[10:58:01] <Kenny> \o
L810[10:58:02]
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L811[10:58:24] <Wobbo> Wow, zsh was faster
than Kenny’s script
L812[10:59:30] <Michiyo> Wobbo, not on my
end, Kenny waved first :P
L813[10:59:44] <Wobbo> Really? Damn lag
:P
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L816[11:01:41] <Death> [11:58]
<+Kenny> \o [11:58] == mode/#oc [+v Wobbo] by zsh
L817[11:01:55] <Michiyo> [11:57:59]
<+Kenny>
\o
L818[11:01:55] <Michiyo> [11:58:00]
»» zsh gives voice
to Wobbo
L819[11:06:48] <Kenny> afk for a few hours
to pay bills and shop
L820[11:06:51] ***
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L821[11:06:58] <Wobbo> Succes!
L822[11:07:06] <Kenny|AFK> and no Wobbo i
didn't miss you coming in :P
L823[11:07:17] <Wobbo> You didn’t?
:P
L824[11:07:20] <Kenny|AFK> no
L825[11:07:49] <Kenny|AFK> i was doing up
my bill spreadsheet which is why i didn't say anything
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probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)
L827[11:10:31] <Gopher> is the grog recipe
supposed to give back the bucket?
L828[11:10:37] <Michiyo> Hmm... any reason
filesystem.remove("filename") wouldn't work?
L829[11:10:46] <Gopher> 'cause either I'm
insane, or sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't
L830[11:11:05] <Michiyo> just returns
false :/
L831[11:11:10] <Wobbo> Gopher: simetimes
the acid eats it away, sometimes it doesn’t.
L832[11:11:21] <Gopher> so it's supposed
to be random then, gotcha
L833[11:11:22] <Wobbo> No, I don’t think
that is intended behavior :P
L834[11:11:29] <Wobbo> To both
L835[11:11:36] <Gopher> or, wait, /when/
do you get it back? when crafting grog, or when crafting /with/
grog?
L836[11:11:38] <Sangar> it should give the
bucket back all the time
L837[11:11:47] <Sangar> when crafting with
the grog
L838[11:11:53] <Gopher> aaah, that
explains it
L839[11:12:02] <Michiyo> Oh... remove
doesn't use the cwd, it uses / it seems
L840[11:12:08] <Gopher> last time I
would've sworn it did not give them back, but then later I had
buckets in my inv, heh
L841[11:12:21] <Gopher> ty
L842[11:12:55] <Sangar> hehe, sure. i'm
impressed you play with the hardmode recipes :D
L843[11:13:18] <Sangar> Michiyo, the
program or the fs api? if the api, yes, all methods in the fs api
take absolute paths.
L845[11:13:30] <ping> SCP is funneh
L846[11:14:26] <Michiyo> Sangar, yeah,
makes sense
L847[11:15:57] <Gopher> normal mode should
take grog too, it seems a waste to only have it in hardmode
XD
L848[11:16:16] <Gopher> maybe just
simplify the grog recipe, only annoying/expensive ingredient really
is the spider eyes
L849[11:16:20] <Gopher> grumble. just 2
more
L850[11:17:32] <ping> greg has quit
L851[11:17:36] <ping> *applause*
L852[11:17:41] <ping> april fools!
L853[11:17:44] <ping> *shots fired*
L854[11:18:01] <Gopher> Slimeballs have
become cheap since .. 1.5something, whenever they started spawning
slimes in swamps
L855[11:18:29] <Gopher> also, since I
mentioned slimes.. Why... the hell... have they still not changed
the spawn rules for slimes?
L856[11:18:40] <Gopher> they just changed
them to be able to spawn in swamps
L857[11:18:56] <ping> idk
L858[11:19:02] <Gopher> but left
everything else the same, and they spawn like /crazy/ and mainly
spawn huge because their spawn rules were tuned for /confined
spaces/
L859[11:19:03] <ping> its stupid
L860[11:19:34] <Gopher> also, if they are
native to swamps, they should be able to swim.
L861[11:19:45] <Gopher> half the time
they're in water and completely helpless, can't even move.
L862[11:20:00] <Gopher> not the big ones,
anyway. The smaller ones move in water better.
L863[11:20:10] <Gopher>
</rant>
L864[11:22:19] <Michiyo> Ok... I think
I've been up WAY to long.. how do I get the current directory in
lua?
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L866[11:23:02] <ping> .help
shell.getWorkingDirectory()
L867[11:23:03] <^v> ping, Not found.
L869[11:23:12] <ping> .help
shell.getWorkingDirectory
L870[11:23:12] <^v> ping,
shell.getWorkingDirectory(): string Gets the path to the current
working directory. This is an alias for
os.getenv("PWD").
L871[11:23:25] <Wobbo> Michiyo:
os.getenv”PWD”
L872[11:23:41] <Michiyo> Ugh thanks, I
knew it was there
L873[11:23:58] <Michiyo> everything is
starting to look the same.. heh
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L875[11:35:13]
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L876[11:35:13] <Kenny|AFK> \o
L877[11:36:29] ⇦
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(Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Vaht)))
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L883[11:39:31] <Gopher> \o/ robot,
finally
L884[11:39:46] <Gopher> now just need one
of those charging station dealies XD
L885[11:40:05] <Wobbo> XD
L886[11:40:13] <Gopher> ... which means 2
more spider eyes I forgot in my original calculations XD
L887[11:40:48] <Gopher> I need a special
weapon designed to gouge the eyes out of spiders so I can get all 8
per kill :P lol
L888[11:41:14] <Michiyo> ha
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L890[11:44:11] <Gopher> hmm. that could
work, actually, lol. Gimped as a weapon, doing same or marginally
more damage as punching with a block, and only makes it drop eyes
if it's used for the killing blow.
L891[11:44:16] *
ping eats Gopher
L892[11:44:16] <^v> Gopher makes ping
constipated and loses 8 hp ( 944 now )
L894[11:44:39] <Gopher> rodents are full
of parasites, you know.
L895[11:44:46] <ping> yeah
L896[11:44:53] <ping> i shouldnt eat
gopher
L897[11:45:04] <Gopher> it is not
recommended, no.
L898[11:45:35] <ping> breakfast time
L899[11:45:40] *
ping eats bagel
L900[11:45:40] <^v> ping gains 20 hp ( 964
now )
L901[11:46:24] ⇦
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error: Connection reset by peer)
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(~notPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
L903[11:46:51] <ping> ah, dont you just
love random resets
L904[11:46:59] <ping> whenever i walk away
from computer, internet dies
L905[11:47:01] ⇦
Quits: ^v (~pingbot@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) (Remote
host closed the connection)
L906[11:49:03] <Wobbo> I should have
Jekyll working soon so I can do some work on the OpenPrograms
website :/
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L908[11:49:19] <Wobbo> \me eats golden
apple
L909[11:49:25] *
Wobbo eats golden apple
L910[11:49:25] <^v> Wobbo gains 42 hp (
1042 now )
L911[11:49:33] <Wobbo> lol
L912[11:51:56] <Wobbo> ping, is there also
an exp system?
L913[11:52:28] <ping> nope
L914[11:52:35] <ping> there is a fat
system though
L915[11:52:36] <Wobbo> Ah
L916[11:52:50] <Wobbo> so I won’t get exp
if I slay you or something?
L917[11:52:56] *
Wobbo slays ping
L918[11:53:04] <ping> only stab and slap
atm
L919[11:53:07] <ping> stabbing is
best
L920[11:53:21] *
Wobbo stabs ping
L921[11:53:22] <^v> Wobbo flails around a
bit and loses 3 hp ( 1039 now )
L923[11:53:31] *
Wobbo stab ping
L924[11:53:32] <ping> 1 in 5 for stabbing
to fail
L925[11:53:40] *
Wobbo stabs ping
L926[11:53:41] <^v> ping loses 14 hp ( 950
now )
L927[11:53:46] <ping> anyway, stop
spamming
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L931[11:58:06] <EnderBot> It'sa me, Josh
again
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L934[11:59:43] <Kenny|AFK> \o
L935[11:59:51] <ping> ohai josh
L936[12:00:23] <EnderBot> Hai, hold on.
Switching to Orc app rather than web client
L937[12:01:15] <Wobbo> I though EnderBot
was for the bot
L938[12:01:22] <Gopher> Sangar, any chance
monitors/gpus could handle non-printing characters more gracefully?
currently printing one effectively puts a width 0 character,
causing the rest of that row to shift left one character.
L939[12:01:39] <Gopher> in the latest
release, anyway, haven't been watching commits that closely
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L941[12:04:38] <Sangar> Gopher, hmmm,
right. replacing the non-printables with spaces should do the
trick, let me try that real quick.
L942[12:04:45] <Sangar> or
questionmarks
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L945[12:06:05] <Gopher> ? or something
unusual would be nice, so you have an indication something odd is
going on
L946[12:06:05] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I
couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L947[12:06:13] <Gopher> ... lol
L948[12:07:15] <Sangar> wait. something is
weird. it should already do that.
L949[12:08:19] <ping> When someone views
SCP-096's face, it will enter a stage of considerable
squee-inspiring distress.
L950[12:08:39] ⇦
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L951[12:09:17] <Gopher> finally, robot and
generator upgrade, I am in a position to /benefit/ from OC rather
than just be slave to it's material needs XD
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L953[12:09:37] <Gopher> of course, it's
mainly going to be helping me me a more efficient slave to it's
material needs until I get a computer, too...
L954[12:10:32] <Wobbo> That took way
longer than it should, but the OpenProgram site now uses
Jekyll
L955[12:10:32] <Gopher> tier 3.5 ram is so
expensive XD
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L958[12:10:46] <Kenny|AFK> \o
L959[12:10:47]
zsh sets mode: +v on JoshTheEnder
L960[12:11:27] <JoshTheEnder> keep
clicking close button :P
L961[12:11:57] <JoshTheEnder>
?chanstats
L963[12:12:04] *
ping stabs JoshTheEnder
L964[12:12:04] <^v> ping flails around a
bit and loses 9 hp ( 941 now )
L965[12:12:28] <Gopher> I'm surprised you
didn't hurt yourself eating a bagel earlier
L968[12:13:19] <Wobbo> XD
L969[12:14:32] <Sangar> ffffff. yeah. so.
missing braces -.-
L970[12:14:52] <JoshTheEnder> o/
L971[12:15:28] <Gopher> I forgot the
turtle can't use it's internal engine without being, y'know, on. So
I need a charging station too.. lol
L972[12:15:31] <Gopher> So damn
close!
L973[12:15:41] <Gopher> And of course I'm
1 spider eye short.
L974[12:15:50] <Gopher> always with the
damn spider eyes
L975[12:15:51] <Sangar> haha. don't forget
you'll need a power converter, too :P
L976[12:16:01] <ping> Gopher, turtle
L977[12:16:12] <Gopher> last I checked TE
power cell -> charging station -> turtle worked?
L978[12:16:20] <Gopher> I think...
L979[12:16:25] <Sangar> Gopher, really? i
doubt that.
L980[12:16:26] <Wobbo> Gopher: and if you
have the solar thingy?
L981[12:16:31] <Gopher> with UE
installed?
L982[12:16:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Good 4
AM everyone o/
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L984[12:17:10] <Gopher> TE cells/conduits
will power computers directly, anyway
L985[12:17:12] <Sangar> i doubt you're up
early? :P
L986[12:17:25] <Sangar> Gopher, yes,
computers, server racks and power converters.
L987[12:17:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Not at
all :P Normally I wouldn't have been asleep yet.
L988[12:17:39] <Gopher> but not charging
stations? loldoh
L989[12:17:44] <JoshTheEnder> its 02:17pm
here
L990[12:18:01] <Gopher> oh, good, and a
charging station needs quartz, so I have to make a nether trip for
a turtle after all XD
L991[12:18:15] <Sangar> nope. until
recently *only* power converters worked :P
L992[12:18:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Can
anyone comfirm that wired's server is down?
L993[12:18:31] <Sangar> a, right, that's
where it was! i thought i'd remembered going to the nether was
required after all.
L994[12:18:58] <Gopher> is it a deliberate
choice to still require converters for charging stations?
L995[12:19:23] <Sangar> Gopher, it's more
of a i didn't give it much (any) thought thing.
L996[12:19:29] <Sangar> hm
L997[12:19:59] <Gopher> seems odd, I
wouldn't have expected specific attention to be required for
individual blocks
L998[12:20:38] <Sangar> well, yeah.
originally it was 'all power through the convert', so that's kind
of a remnant of that.
L999[12:20:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Does a
TCP connection trigger an event when it recieves data or do we have
to poll it?
L1000[12:21:01] <Sangar>
ShadowKatStudios, poll it.
L1001[12:21:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Aw,
OK
L1002[12:21:48] <Sangar> the lower level
(internet.connect i think?) is non-blocking, if you need that
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L1004[12:22:46] <ShadowKatStudios> I just
wanted to be able to do something else while it got data.
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L1006[12:24:05] <Symmetryc> ping: how is
it ambiguous? I'm probably missing something ...
L1007[12:24:36] <JoshTheEnder> right, im
gonna head off now. might be back later o/
L1008[12:24:40] <ping> when dealing with
variables
L1009[12:25:03] <ping> a + b a + b is
ambiguous
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L1011[12:25:49] <ping> because the
compiler doesnt see the newlines
L1012[12:25:51] <Sangar> Gopher, i'm
hesitating to make more blocks 'power acceptors' because i don't
know where to draw the line. since all connected blocks in oc share
power. so would a redstone i/o block also accept power? keyboards?
:/
L1013[12:26:19] <Gopher> would a charging
station next to a computer draw power through it from TE?
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L1015[12:26:36] <Sangar> yes
L1016[12:26:49] *
ShadowKatStudios is trying to figure out why someone would try to
mount a drive to /C: in a UNIX ripoff written in lua
L1017[12:26:58] <Gopher> oh. Then meh,
I'll do that. Tho it seems to me a charging station is a different
order of thing than, say, a monitor or a keyboard.
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L1019[12:27:19] <Kenny|AFK> \o
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L1021[12:27:24] <Sangar> yeah. i
understand what you mean.
L1022[12:27:36] <ping> 200 functions so
far
L1024[12:27:45] <ping> its really tedious
:/
L1025[12:27:47] <Gopher> are charging
stations components? never throught to check before.
L1026[12:27:56] <ping> Gopher, nope
L1027[12:28:37] <Sangar> i won't change
this for 1.2.5, but for 1.3 i'll consider making at least the
charger also accept power. maybe also capacitors, distributors and
screens, and deprecate the convert alltogether.
L1028[12:28:59] <Sangar> and why do i
keep writing convert when i'm clearly thinking converter? :/
L1029[12:29:09] <Gopher> heh
L1030[12:29:11] <Symmetryc> ping: hmm I
still don't see how that could be interpreted two ways...?
L1031[12:29:41] <ping> function
calls
L1033[12:29:56] <ping> a
"potato"
L1034[12:30:00] <ping> is a function
call
L1035[12:30:11] <Symmetryc> Yup
L1036[12:30:12] <Sangar> Wobbo, great
job, almost looks as high fidelity as my 'Go away.' page!
L1037[12:30:24] <Symmetryc> ping: But how
does that affect a + b?
L1038[12:30:29] <Wobbo> Worst thing is,
it took me a lot of time XD
L1039[12:30:39] <Sangar> haha
L1040[12:30:53] <ping> it would do
(a+b)(a+b)
L1041[12:31:03] <Wobbo> Well, building
jekyll and stuff also took a lot of time
L1042[12:31:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Damn
fancy Wobbo
L1043[12:31:29] <Wobbo> Really eh
L1044[12:31:32] <Symmetryc> ping: As in
the function returned from a + b called with the single parameter
of the value returned by a+b?
L1045[12:31:44] <ping> yes
L1047[12:32:02] <Symmetryc> You need ()
to call a function though, unless it is a string/table
L1048[12:32:09] <ping> nope
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L1050[12:32:15] <ping> .lua print
"potato"
L1051[12:32:16] <^v> ping, potato
L1052[12:32:24] <Gopher> unless it's a
string/table, he said
L1053[12:32:27] <Gopher> pretty sure tht
was a string
L1054[12:32:28] <Symmetryc>
"potato" is a string...
L1055[12:32:35] <Symmetryc> .lua print
5
L1056[12:32:36] <^v> Symmetryc, lua:1:
syntax error near '5'
L1057[12:32:37] <Symmetryc> ^
L1058[12:32:39] <ping> wat
L1059[12:33:07] <Symmetryc> So therefore
there would be no ambiguous syntax...
L1060[12:34:46] <Symmetryc> actually it
could be ambiguous if you did something like
L1061[12:34:48] <Symmetryc> print
L1062[12:34:50] <Symmetryc>
"thing"
L1063[12:35:07] <Symmetryc> Where print
and "thing" refer to value-statements, not a function
call...
L1064[12:35:29] <Symmetryc> I suppose
they could just make it so that only value-expressions are
statements
L1065[12:35:33] <Symmetryc> But not
single values
L1066[12:37:17] <Gopher> neither of those
are valid by themselves in lua tho, Symmetryc
L1067[12:37:41] <Symmetryc> No I mean
print\n"thing"
L1068[12:37:48] <Gopher> lua ignores
whitespace
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L1070[12:38:04] <Symmetryc> .lua
loadstring
L1071[12:38:04] <^v> Symmetryc,
L1072[12:38:07] <Gopher> it makes no
difference, if herp then derp end is invalid lua
L1073[12:38:09] <Symmetryc> .lua
load
L1074[12:38:09] <^v> Symmetryc, function:
003E99A8
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L1076[12:38:21] <Symmetryc> .lua
load("print\n'thing'")()
L1077[12:38:21] <^v> Symmetryc,
thing
L1078[12:38:24] <Symmetryc> ^
L1079[12:38:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Yep,
right on queue. What the heck is wrong with this computer?
L1080[12:38:32] <Gopher> interactive lua
interpreters detect value expressions and make them print or
return
L1081[12:38:42] <Gopher> .lua if true
then "hello" end
L1082[12:38:43] <^v> Gopher, lua:1:
unexpected symbol near '"hello"'
L1083[12:39:07] <Symmetryc> Gopher: Try
making a file with print on the first like and "hello" on
the second line, then run it
L1084[12:39:10] <Symmetryc> It will still
work
L1085[12:39:14] <Gopher> no
L1086[12:39:23] <Gopher> Trust me, I know
the lua parser inside and out XD
L1087[12:39:52] <Symmetryc> Gopher: Go
try it
L1089[12:40:08] <Symmetryc> First line:
print
L1090[12:40:14] <Symmetryc> Second line:
"hello"
L1091[12:40:18] <Gopher> <+Gopher>
interactive lua interpreters detect value expressions and make them
print or return
L1092[12:40:19] <Symmetryc> it will print
hello
L1094[12:41:07] <Gopher> it's close
enough :P
L1095[12:41:10] <Symmetryc> Just go try
it on whatever you want to try it on
L1096[12:41:16] <Symmetryc> It will
work
L1097[12:41:17] <Gopher> I am not the one
uncertain
L1098[12:41:23] <Gopher> /you/ try it as
a lua file
L1100[12:41:46] <Symmetryc> Gopher: It
works
L1101[12:41:55] <tgame14> Sangar, what
does the cache with iron nuggets even do?
L1102[12:42:42] <ShadowKatStudios> :o The
'Creeper' worm actually existed!
L1103[12:43:30] <Gopher> stm: wait. ARe
you telling me that print, newline, "hello" will print
hello?
L1104[12:43:37] <Gopher> because I told
/you/ that lua ignores whitespace
L1105[12:43:43] <Sangar> tgame14, the
cache itself is just that, caches costs, because the computation
for 'deep' recipes is bloody expensive. why i initialize it with
the nuggets i can't really remember :P
L1106[12:44:37] <Wobbo> lua
<<EOF\nprint\n”hello”\n prints hello
L1107[12:44:50] <Wobbo> And If I am not
mistaken, here documents do keep the newline
L1108[12:45:02] <tgame14> im
confused
L1109[12:45:07] <tgame14> caches
cost?
L1110[12:45:16] <Symmetryc> Gopher: I
said this:
L1111[12:45:17] <Symmetryc> [14:40]
<Symmetryc> First line: print [14:40] <Symmetryc>
Second line: "hello" [14:40] <Symmetryc> it will
print hello
L1112[12:45:20] <Symmetryc> You said
this:
L1113[12:45:25] <Symmetryc> [14:40]
<+Gopher> <+Gopher> interactive lua interpreters detect
value expressions and make them print or return
L1114[12:45:45] <Gopher> I'm talking
about earlier in the conversation than that
L1115[12:45:45] <Symmetryc> So I'm saying
lua'ing "print\n'hello'" prints hello
L1116[12:45:50] <Sangar> tgame14, i.e.
the final basic ingredients. so it doesn't have to recursively loop
through the recipes each time that is queried.
L1117[12:46:09] <tgame14> ah
L1118[12:46:15] <Gopher> Iw as saying
there was no ambiguity. You Seemed? to be saying there wasm
L1119[12:46:18] <tgame14> then do i even
need to initialize it?
L1120[12:46:24] <tgame14> can i leave it
uninitialized
L1121[12:46:29] <tgame14> ?
L1122[12:46:30] <ping> \o/ done with all
the component/api function descriptions
L1123[12:46:32] <Symmetryc> Gopher: Yes,
but first lets finish this conversation
L1124[12:46:33] <Sangar> tgame14, you can
leave it uninitialized.
L1125[12:46:43] <ping> anyone want the
table?
L1126[12:46:52] <Symmetryc> Gopher:
Otherwise it will get confusing
L1127[12:46:56] <Gopher> it's thje same
conversation. We've got some miscommunication we need to clear up
as we're at an impass
L1128[12:46:57] <Symmetryc> Gopher: Did
you try it out
L1129[12:47:10] <Gopher> On two lines,
no, but of course it works. Newlines have no effect.
L1130[12:47:11] <tgame14> Sangar, i feel
a bit bad doing it, but would you mean if i just 100% copied your
stuff?
L1131[12:47:20] <tgame14> the code i
mean
L1132[12:47:37] <Sangar> tgame14, sure,
go ahead :)
L1133[12:47:47] <tgame14> ill be sure to
properly credit you in code
L1134[12:47:47] <Gopher> that's what
"lua ignores whitespace" means.
L1135[12:47:55] <Sangar> sure
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L1138[12:48:15] <^v> ping, OC function
descriptions Written in Lua by infinikiller64 32.91KB
L1139[12:48:16] <Symmetryc> Gopher: So
then what did you think I was saying
L1140[12:48:26] <Symmetryc> Gopher: When
I said first line print, second line "hello"
L1141[12:48:27] <Gopher> I thoguth you
were saying "print", by itelf, was a valid lua statement.
I it were /not/ followed, any number of lines later, by
"hello" or some other form of valid arguments.
L1142[12:48:42] <Sangar> Maxwolf, hey
there mad scientist o/
L1143[12:48:57] <Gopher> but as I said
then, value expressions are not valid in lua
L1144[12:49:01] <Gopher> so there is no
ambiguity
L1145[12:49:07] <Maxwolf> Sangar, howdy
computer scientist :3
L1146[12:49:18] <Maxwolf> I thought I
should come in here I been using OC lots now.
L1147[12:49:24] <Sangar> :D
L1148[12:49:26] <ping> \o/
L1149[12:49:27] <Symmetryc> Gopher: So
you're telling me that you thought that I was saying that print
alone will print "hello"?
L1150[12:49:35] <ping> another irc
user
L1151[12:49:35] <Symmetryc> wat
L1152[12:49:40] <Gopher> You said there
was ambiguity
L1153[12:50:00] <Gopher> which implied it
could be validly interpreted two ways
L1154[12:50:10] <Symmetryc> Gopher: That
was before I said that
L1155[12:50:23] <Symmetryc> Gopher: I was
saying that was ambiguous to ping
L1156[12:50:40] <Symmetryc> Gopher:
Because we were just discussing what would happen if values were
valid statements in Lua...
L1157[12:51:04] <tgame14> psst, give
Maxwolf voice
L1158[12:51:14] <tgame14> dev of
MadScience and calclavia core i think
L1159[12:51:14] <Sangar> ping, it's funny
that the scrolling through this in 2 seconds the only thing that
registered was "No port-sniffing for you" :P
L1160[12:51:29] <Sangar> good point. let
me see if i can get this right.
L1161[12:51:37] *
Gopher scrolls back and re-reads the bits before he
entered
L1162[12:51:50] <ping> .w
rednet.send
L1163[12:51:50] <^v> ping, Not
found.
L1164[12:51:53] <Gopher> You're probably
right, so I apologize for the misunderstanding, which was
apparently my fault
L1165[12:51:55] <Sangar> Kenny|AFK, voice
Maxwolf
L1166[12:51:55] <ping> :| alias
fail
L1167[12:51:56] <tgame14> also Sangar,
you need a better way to allow access to your API
L1168[12:52:04] <tgame14> to your items
specifically
L1169[12:52:05] <Sangar> there
L1170[12:52:06] <Sangar> :P
L1171[12:52:12] <Symmetryc> Gopher: I'm
not saying it's your fault
L1172[12:52:37] <Symmetryc> Gopher: I'm
just wondering why you thought that I thought that print alone
prints "hello" when I said there would be
"hello" on the next line...
L1173[12:52:39] <Sangar> tgame14, hmm,
the itemstacks aren't good enough?
L1174[12:52:48] <Maxwolf> Sangar, you
prepended it with kenny's name I don't think anything
happened.
L1175[12:52:51] <tgame14> if someone
calls something on them, it messes up
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L1177[12:53:09] <tgame14> if i do
Items.someItem.stackSize = 4 and it all messes up
L1178[12:53:10] <tgame14> for
everyone
L1179[12:53:21] <Gopher> symmetryc, Just
not paying enough attention to the conversation, was simultaneously
fighting off zombies and building a nether portal with lava buckets
XD
L1180[12:53:22] <Sangar> Maxwolf, i'm
quite clueless about the irc internals. kenny usually does the flag
adjustments :P
L1181[12:53:30] <Gopher> when you said it
pritns "hello" I was thinking you meant "hello"
on a line by itself
L1182[12:53:32] <Maxwolf> Ah one sec I
will look it up
L1183[12:53:42] <tgame14> Sangar, do
!voice Maxwolf
L1184[12:53:43] <Symmetryc> Gopher: Ah
okay, I see
L1185[12:53:43] <Gopher> and you
demonstrated the whole .lua print thing printed out the print
function :P
L1186[12:53:53] <Gopher> which seemed to
support my sense of what you were saying
L1187[12:53:57] <Gopher> that print was a
valid statement by itself
L1188[12:54:01] <Sangar> tgame14, yeah,
well... you shouldn't do that, really :P just copy them.
L1189[12:54:05] <Sangar> !voice
Maxwolf
L1190[12:54:05]
zsh sets mode: +v on Maxwolf
L1191[12:54:06] <ShadowKatStudios>
There's an interesting article about IRC over telnet that tells you
a bit, but you probably already know :P
L1192[12:54:09] <tgame14> Sangar,
ofcourse not
L1193[12:54:14] <Sangar> is that
permanent, though?
L1194[12:54:17] <tgame14> but while
making an API, assume stupidity
L1195[12:54:24] <tgame14> Sangar, i think
so
L1196[12:54:27] <Symmetryc> Gopher: I was
using load() so that it wouldn't act like an interactive
interpreter
L1197[12:54:30] <Maxwolf> EsperNet has
templates " /msg chanserv FLAGS [channel] [nick] VOP "
that makes chanserv do it every time if this is registered
channel.
L1198[12:54:32] <Sangar> wonderful
L1199[12:54:33] <tgame14> Maxwolf,
relog?
L1200[12:54:37] <Maxwolf> Yeah I will do
that
L1201[12:54:39] <Symmetryc> Gopher: But
yeah I can see how that would be confusing
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L1205[12:54:53] <Maxwolf> w00t
L1206[12:54:57] <tgame14> Ah, you need to
set flag
L1207[12:54:58] <tgame14> !flags
L1208[12:55:03] <ping> !flags Maxwolf
+Vv
L1210[12:55:12] <Sangar> !flags Maxwolf
+Vv
L1211[12:55:13] -ChanServ-
Sangar set
flags
+Vv on
Maxwolf.
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L1213[12:55:19] <Sangar> !voice
Maxwolf
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L1216[12:55:23] <Sangar> eh, or
that
L1217[12:55:26] <Gopher> anyway, read
back over it and it started with me misunderstanding something
because I jumnped into the middle of a convo without reading back
the context, heh
L1218[12:55:26] <Sangar> great :)
L1219[12:55:27] <tgame14> try !flags
Sangar -Oo
L1220[12:55:34] <Sangar> tgame14, nice
try ;)
L1221[12:55:35] <Gopher> hence, sorry
:)
L1222[12:55:36] <tgame14> :P
L1223[12:55:38] <Maxwolf> There we go
:3
L1224[12:55:44] <Maxwolf> Thanks you
guys!
L1225[12:56:01] <tgame14> now !flags
Maxwolf +Qq
L1226[12:56:04] <Sangar> :P
L1227[12:56:23] <Sangar> so again about
that api, would you suggest a getter for each item type? i'm not a
fan of that :/
L1228[12:56:29] <tgame14> better
L1229[12:56:41] <tgame14> influenced by
AlgorithmX2, i made my own system
L1230[12:56:43] <Maxwolf> How goes things
in OC land? Great work on the mod, I dunno if I ever got a chance
to tell you that personally but just had to make sure.
L1231[12:56:45] <tgame14> its mostly his
basis though
L1232[12:56:58] <tgame14> one sec ill
link
L1233[12:57:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh
yeah, ping, you may want to disable the stats command on your bot,
Ke nny got pissed at me after he woke up when I used it.
L1234[12:57:28] <Sangar> Maxwolf, thanks!
all is quite well in OC land :)
L1235[12:57:42] <ping> ShadowKatStudios,
it has antiping :|
L1236[12:57:58] <Maxwolf> That is good
news! Invasion continues!
L1237[12:58:11] <Sangar> :>
L1238[12:58:17] <tgame14> Sangar, i am
rehauling this system for my own mod in 1.7
L1240[12:59:00] <tgame14> And this is
access
L1242[12:59:07] <Sangar> tgame14,
interesting. i might overhaul it for 1.3.
L1245[13:00:05] <tgame14> sorry for the
spam
L1246[13:00:14] <ping> ._.
L1247[13:00:30] <Sangar> i always feel
bad when linking oc, too, because the links are so terribly long
:P
L1248[13:00:50] <Wobbo> github links are
always long
L1249[13:00:53] <tgame14> i never care
really
L1250[13:01:05] <tgame14> i only say
sorry because people tend to be offended when i don't
L1251[13:01:23] <Sangar> :P
L1252[13:01:55] <Maxwolf> EhEhe
L1253[13:02:00] <Sangar> but yeah, the
idea is nice. not sure it has to be that verbose for 1.7, as i
believe there are much better built-in facilities for
item/stack/block conversion.
L1254[13:02:04] <Maxwolf> tgame14, easier
to ask for forgiveness? ;3
L1255[13:02:13] <ShadowKatStudios>
tgame14: That is my view of many things. I do, however, dislike it
when I have to post a long link.
L1256[13:02:13] <tgame14> yes :)
L1257[13:02:23] <tgame14> meh, i link it
for a reason
L1258[13:02:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Other
people doing it doesn't annoy me, weirdly enough
L1259[13:03:05] <Sangar> long links are
just not aesthetically very pleasing :P
L1260[13:03:26] <tgame14> and theres
always that one person that cries because now his screen
shifted
L1261[13:04:08] <Sangar> well, they
probably all died yesterday due to the warden netsplits, right?
can't shift any more than that :P
L1262[13:04:32] <ping> Sangar, you and a
couple people were on the bad side of a split
L1263[13:04:34] <tgame14> lol
L1264[13:04:44] <ping> warder.esper.net
was failing
L1265[13:04:46] <tgame14> there is no bad
side in a split :P
L1266[13:05:04] <ping> tgame14, yes there
is
L1267[13:05:10] <ping> the one without
nickserv :P
L1268[13:05:20] <tgame14> lol
L1269[13:05:23] <Sangar> well, i wasn't
at the computer so i just saw it in the logs :P
L1270[13:05:24] <tgame14> Oyh
L1271[13:05:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Damnit
Mojang, it's the second of april, not the first!
L1272[13:05:52] <Wobbo> But it shouldn’t
pose a problem if you are already logged in right?
L1274[13:06:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Can I
set the power on an access point?
L1275[13:06:23] <Wobbo> ping: did people
bite?
L1276[13:06:30] <ping> nope
L1277[13:06:33] <ping> they beleived
it
L1278[13:06:48] <ShadowKatStudios> My
april fools was going on about tigers before actually doing the
presentation of my assignment
L1279[13:06:57] <asie> ...
L1280[13:06:58] <asie> clever
L1281[13:07:05] <asie> i got fooled
L1282[13:07:21] <tgame14> its because lua
has no ++ -- right?
L1283[13:07:44] <Sangar>
ShadowKatStudios, as in the range? via the component, yes.
L1284[13:08:02] <ping> tgame14, i said
lua 5.3 work3 came out
L1285[13:08:06] <Wobbo> Actually, ++
wouldn’t make sense anyway.
L1286[13:08:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool,
that should be easier on the ender pearls
L1287[13:08:12] <ping> Wobbo, wat
L1288[13:08:20] <tgame14> ping, look at
the a shit
L1289[13:08:28] <tgame14> if ++ -- worked
then answer would be 9k..
L1290[13:08:35] <tgame14> i don't know
lua enough thos
L1291[13:08:36] <ping> thats the
point
L1292[13:08:48] <ping> its actually under
9000
L1293[13:08:54] ***
jesusthekiller is now known as jesustk_off
L1294[13:09:01] <asie> no
L1295[13:09:01] <ping> er, under
9001
L1296[13:09:11] <asie> it actually comes
out to 9000 with the ++ and --
L1297[13:09:11] <asie> lel
L1298[13:09:12] <Wobbo> alright, lets say
I would overload operators __add and __sub, what would ++ do? would
it add one? that might give the wrong answer, if you are working
with sets for example
L1299[13:09:49] <ping> Wobbo, it would do
__add(a,1)
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jesustk_off is now known as jesusthekiller
L1301[13:10:13] <Wobbo> yeah, but that
might not make sense with the overloaded operator
L1302[13:10:15] <ping> also, say override
not overload
L1303[13:10:21] <ping> yes it would
L1304[13:10:22] <Wobbo> *override
L1305[13:10:29] <ping> a++ compiles to
a=a+1
L1306[13:11:04] <tgame14> a-- compiles to
nothing>
L1307[13:11:05] <tgame14> \?
L1308[13:11:14] <Wobbo> a = a - 1
L1309[13:11:41] <Wobbo> But I mean that
that isn’t always as usefull when you are not dealing with
numbers.
L1310[13:11:43] <tgame14> so how did the
answer end up being 9001
L1311[13:12:36] <ping> tgame14, april
fools: the image was fake :P
L1312[13:12:56] <tgame14> you told me
that isnt the joke and the joke is lua 5.3
L1313[13:12:59] <tgame14> wtf ?
L1314[13:13:04] *
tgame14 sleeps
L1315[13:13:09] ***
tgame14 is now known as tgame14|sleep
L1316[13:13:42] <ping> lua 5.3 work 3 is
the joke
L1317[13:13:46] <ping> its still on
work2
L1318[13:13:52] <Symmetryc> ping:
***!
L1319[13:13:58] <Symmetryc> ping: I
thought it was real :(
L1320[13:14:04] <ping> xDDDDDDDDD
L1321[13:14:13] <Symmetryc> ping: y u do
dis to me
L1322[13:14:17] <Symmetryc> nuuuuuu
L1323[13:14:22] <ping>
:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P
L1324[13:15:12] <ShadowKatStudios>
Anyway, it's 5 AM, I need to get ready for the rest of the day
:(
L1325[13:15:21] ***
ShadowKatStudios is now known as SKS|AFK
L1326[13:16:55] *
ping eats Symmetryc
L1327[13:16:55] <^v> Symmetryc makes ping
constipated and loses 5 hp ( 936 now )
L1328[13:17:01] <ping> for fucks
sake
L1329[13:17:07] *
Wobbo gets eaten by ping
L1330[13:17:14] <Wobbo> hmm, that doesn’t
work :P
L1331[13:17:21] *
Wobbo stabs ping
L1332[13:17:22] <^v> ping loses 28 hp (
908 now )
L1333[13:17:25] <ping> i am so un
lucky
L1334[13:19:14] <SKS|AFK> Oooh, are we
stabbing ping now?
L1335[13:19:17] *
SKS|AFK stabs ping
L1336[13:19:36] <Wobbo> We could also
kick him I believe
L1337[13:19:39] <ping> you arent
identified stupeid
L1338[13:19:41] *
Wobbo kicks ping
L1339[13:19:42] <ping> Wobbo, nope
L1340[13:19:44] ***
Death||Away is now known as Death
L1341[13:19:47] <Wobbo> damn
L1342[13:19:54] <Wobbo> We could kill you
some other way
L1343[13:19:55] ***
SKS|AFK is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L1344[13:20:01] *
ShadowKatStudios stabs ping
L1345[13:20:12] <ShadowKatStudios>
Damnit, I just identified :/
L1346[13:20:31] <ping> because it only
whoises you when you join
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L1349[13:20:51] <ping> … utard
L1350[13:20:54] *
Wobbo slaps ping
L1351[13:20:54] <^v> ping Loses 2 hp (
906 now )
L1352[13:20:55] *
ShadowKatStudios stabs ping
L1353[13:20:55] <^v> ping loses 21 hp (
885 now )
L1354[13:20:58] <ping> Facu
L1355[13:20:59] <Wobbo> XD
L1356[13:21:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay,
happy now
L1357[13:21:10] ***
ShadowKatStudios is now known as SKS|AFK
L1358[13:21:33] <ping> .>
rpg.ping.hp=999999999
L1359[13:21:33] <^v> ping, nil
L1360[13:21:37] <ping> \o/
L1361[13:21:46] <ping> ik, cheating
L1362[13:22:31] <Wobbo> .> rpg.ping.hp
= 885
L1363[13:22:31] <^v> Nope.
L1364[13:22:34] <Wobbo> damn
L1365[13:22:54] <Wobbo> anyway, I am
going I guess.
L1366[13:23:00] <Wobbo> So, speak you all
later!
L1367[13:23:07] <SKS|AFK> o/
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L1370[13:29:10] <ping> aww
L1371[13:33:04] ***
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L1373[13:33:42] <Kenny|AFK> \o
L1374[13:33:42]
zsh sets mode: +v on Gopher
L1375[13:34:31] <ping> so, who wants me
to hook up a neural network to this chat?
L1376[13:34:39] <Gopher> nobody on
earth
L1377[13:34:47] <ping> what about
me?
L1378[13:35:19] <Gopher> if you /really/
wanted to, you wouldn't be asking, so I was hoping our lack of
interest would be sufficient to deter you
L1379[13:35:41] <Foone> set up a neural
network to the chat and see if we can figure out who it is
L1380[13:36:03] <Foone> for bonus april
fools points, don't set it up but say you did, and let the channel
accuse every new user of being a bot'
L1381[13:36:56] <Symmetryc> back
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L1385[13:38:40] <Symmetryc> ping: Looking
back at it, did you make the math wrong in the work3 pic on
purpose?
L1386[13:38:47] <asie> >work3
L1387[13:38:51] <ping> Symmetryc,
yes
L1388[13:38:57] <Symmetryc> ping: Haha,
nice :P
L1390[13:39:07] <Symmetryc> asie: Lua 5.3
work3
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L1392[13:40:07] <LoneWolf> Nvm
L1393[13:40:18] *
ping slaps LoneWolf
L1394[13:40:18] <^v> LoneWolf Loses 1 hp
( 999 now )
L1395[13:40:27] <asie> ping:
>work3
L1396[13:40:28] <asie> still
L1397[13:40:46] <LoneWolf> I need someone
who is willing to connect to my server and help me OC i'm so
confused none of the tutorials are helping me ._.
L1398[13:40:59] <ping> LoneWolf, what are
you trying to do?
L1399[13:41:19] <LoneWolf> Move from
computerCraft to Open Computers and work with it ._.
L1400[13:41:27] <ping> LoneWolf, what are
you trying to do in OC
L1401[13:41:34] <ping> .-.
L1402[13:41:44] <LoneWolf>
Everything
L1403[13:41:51] <LoneWolf> from what I
did with ComputerCraft
L1404[13:41:55] <ping> hello world?
L1405[13:41:55] <LoneWolf> to new
things
L1406[13:42:06] <LoneWolf> I know how to
program lua i'm not a retard ._.
L1407[13:42:10] <Maxwolf> LoneWolf, I
would suggest doing like ping says and make a hello world
program
L1408[13:42:17] <LoneWolf> I did
L1409[13:42:18] *
Symmetryc eats Symmetryc
L1410[13:42:18] <^v> Symmetryc gains 20
hp ( 1020 now )
L1411[13:42:21] <LoneWolf> 30 times
L1412[13:42:24] <Symmetryc> :D
L1413[13:42:26] <Symmetryc> :D
L1414[13:42:27] <Maxwolf> Then what is
the problem?
L1415[13:42:37] <ping> i would suggest
looking at the wiki
L1416[13:42:37] <LoneWolf> Idk how to
mount Harddrives
L1417[13:42:38] <ping> .wiki
L1419[13:42:45] <LoneWolf> or how to use
pastebin get <code>
L1420[13:42:48] <LoneWolf> or anything
like that
L1421[13:42:59] <LoneWolf> and I have
looked at the wiki it helps nada it confused me [the way its
worded]
L1422[13:43:01] <ping> .help
tutorial2
L1424[13:43:26] <LoneWolf> ping I have
looked through all the wikis
L1425[13:43:27] <Maxwolf> LoneWolf, I
thought you had messed with Linux before?
L1426[13:43:35] <Maxwolf> This is very
similar idea here
L1427[13:43:43] <LoneWolf> I have
L1428[13:43:44] <Maxwolf> It even prints
out the same way
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L1430[13:43:52] <LoneWolf> but never
mounted anything with linux
L1431[13:43:57] <Maxwolf> Omg everyone is
turning into wolves
L1432[13:44:02] <LoneWolf> lol
L1433[13:44:03] <Pingwolf> xD
L1434[13:44:29] <Pingwolf> well in OC the
mounting stuff is verry confusing
L1435[13:44:52] <LoneWolf> ._. Ok
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hours.)
L1437[13:45:02] <Gopher> there is a
tutorial page on the wiki that lists how to mount
L1438[13:45:05] <LoneWolf> You know how
the rednet server is for computercraft?
L1439[13:45:12] <LoneWolf> and I know
gopher but it confused me
L1440[13:45:15] <Gopher> might be video
form only tho? can't remember
L1441[13:45:23] <LoneWolf> Video confused
me
L1442[13:45:28] <LoneWolf> wiki confused
me
L1443[13:45:30] <LoneWolf> I am
lost
L1444[13:45:32] <LoneWolf> ._.
L1445[13:45:36] <Pingwolf> LoneWolf, you
seem verry confused
L1446[13:45:42] <LoneWolf> I am
L1447[13:45:43] <LoneWolf> ._.
L1448[13:45:45] <LoneWolf> Thats
what
L1449[13:45:46] <LoneWolf> I
L1450[13:45:47] <LoneWolf> said
L1451[13:45:47] <Pingwolf> okay
L1452[13:45:50] <LoneWolf> ._.
L1453[13:45:56] <Pingwolf> are you good
at english?
L1454[13:46:10] <Pingwolf> can you read
something with pictures and not get bored?
L1455[13:46:16] <LoneWolf> I can
L1456[13:46:17] <LoneWolf> I did
L1457[13:46:18] <LoneWolf> I do
L1458[13:46:24] <LoneWolf> AND the result
= confused
L1459[13:46:25] <LoneWolf> ._.
L1460[13:46:32] <Pingwolf> can you
remember something for more than 30 seconds?
L1461[13:47:13] <LoneWolf> Yes
L1462[13:47:14] <LoneWolf> ._.
L1463[13:47:16] <Pingwolf> then you
should have no problem
L1464[13:47:18] <LoneWolf> I'm not
"old"
L1465[13:47:18] <Gopher> if there's not a
language barrier, I don't see how the video could've been
confusing. look at hard drive, label, mount. It's confusing in
itself, perhaps, but it shouldn't be confusing with a step-by-step
walkthrough...
L1466[13:47:18] <Pingwolf> .-.
L1467[13:47:41] <Maxwolf> Was you looking
at the trailer video LoneWolf ?
L1468[13:47:44] <Maxwolf> Or which
one?
L1469[13:47:50] <LoneWolf> ALL
L1470[13:47:54] <LoneWolf> ._.
L1471[13:48:24] <Pingwolf> he is probably
confused generally by the difference between CC and OC
L1472[13:48:32] <LoneWolf> That is
probably why
L1473[13:48:39] <LoneWolf> I'm so use to
CC
L1474[13:48:54] <LoneWolf> And I followed
the mounting instructions and it didnt work fo rme
L1475[13:48:56] <LoneWolf> tried several
times
L1476[13:49:18] <Pingwolf> dont tell me
you wrote exactly the same numbers and letters did you?
L1477[13:49:31] <LoneWolf> No
L1478[13:49:31] <Pingwolf> because you
need to get the first three chars of your HDD's ID
L1479[13:49:35] <LoneWolf> I know
L1480[13:49:46] <Pingwolf> kfine, server
IP and modpack
L1481[13:49:52] <LoneWolf> Actually
L1482[13:49:56] <LoneWolf> its only
running 1 mod
L1483[13:49:57] <LoneWolf> and its
L1484[13:50:12] <Pingwolf> which OC
version?
L1485[13:50:15] <LoneWolf>
aerialdevs.no-ip.org:25575 [diff port cuzz its a mod test server]
and
L1486[13:50:17] <LoneWolf> um
L1487[13:50:21] <Gopher> if the only mod
is oc
L1488[13:50:25] <Gopher> then how did you
turn the computer on?
L1489[13:50:37] <LoneWolf> It is set up
to not use power
L1490[13:50:45] <Gopher> is there a
config option for not requiring power? huh. How ... huh.
L1491[13:50:52] <Pingwolf> Gopher, if
there is no power mod, it defaults to not needing it
L1492[13:50:54] <LoneWolf> ._. gopher and
the version is 1.2.4.296
L1493[13:50:59] <LoneWolf> OH and
L1494[13:51:02] <Pingwolf> .jenkins
L1495[13:51:02] <LoneWolf> CC 1.58
L1496[13:51:05] <LoneWolf> forgot to
remove it
L1498[13:51:12] <Pingwolf> ^ this
version?
L1499[13:51:36] <Gopher> probably using
latest release, not dev
L1500[13:51:43] <LoneWolf> Yea
L1501[13:51:43] <Gopher> but mount and
label worked fine in 1.2.4 :P
L1502[13:51:47] <LoneWolf> latest
release
L1503[13:51:50] <Gopher> and 1.2.3, and I
assume well before that
L1504[13:54:54] <Pingwolf> k, i got MMC
an ill join soon
L1505[13:55:05] <LoneWolf> Ok
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L1507[13:57:39] <Pingwolf> mc taking
forever to dl
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L1510[13:58:06] *
LoneWolf waits
L1511[13:58:13] <Pingwolf> sry
L1512[13:58:17] <Pingwolf> froge bein
slow
L1513[13:58:30] <LoneWolf> Its fine
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L1515[13:58:34] <LoneWolf> it happens to
me all the time.
L1516[13:58:58] <Kenny> Lonewolf: what do
you type to attempt to mount the drive?
L1517[13:59:12] <LoneWolf> Nothing
L1518[13:59:28] <Pingwolf> …
L1519[13:59:43] <LoneWolf> ER sorry
L1520[13:59:49] <LoneWolf> that was ment
for minecraft chat hold on
L1521[13:59:52] <Kenny> ok. you can label
a drive but it is not really necessary
L1522[14:00:37] <Kenny> to mount a drive
you need the first 3 characters of its address
L1523[14:00:39] <LoneWolf> I labeled it
like the tut
L1524[14:01:23] <Kenny> ok then you
should be able to type: mount <label> /folder
L1525[14:01:32] <Kenny> <label> ids
the name you gave it
L1526[14:01:42] <Kenny> and folder is the
name you want tht folder to have
L1527[14:01:44] <LoneWolf> but what if I
haven't added a server to the HD
L1528[14:01:50] <LoneWolf> ohk
L1529[14:02:10] <Kenny> once you have
mounted it, then you type cd folder
L1530[14:02:25] <Kenny> folder being the
folder name you used
L1531[14:02:45] <Kenny> now you can use
the edit.lua program to write files to it
L1532[14:03:00] <LoneWolf> ok I typed
mount testdrive test but nothing came up
L1533[14:03:12] <Pingwolf> Exception in
thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
joptsimple/OptionSpec
L1534[14:03:18] <Pingwolf> .-.
L1535[14:03:30] <LoneWolf> Me and my
friend are on my server o.o
L1536[14:03:40] <Pingwolf> this is when
starting MC
L1537[14:03:43] <Pingwolf> instant
crash
L1538[14:03:59] <LoneWolf> oh
L1539[14:04:09] <Kenny> you need to do:
mount testdrive /test
L1540[14:04:09] <LoneWolf> delete your
config
L1541[14:04:14] <LoneWolf> I did
L1542[14:04:15] <LoneWolf> wait
L1543[14:04:18] <LoneWolf> forgot the
slash
L1544[14:04:33] <LoneWolf> "file
already exists"
L1545[14:04:46] <Kenny> do a cd
test
L1546[14:05:02] <LoneWolf> Nothing
L1547[14:05:07] <LoneWolf> just moved to
next line
L1548[14:05:07] <LoneWolf> #
L1549[14:05:11] <Kenny> now do dir
L1550[14:05:24] <LoneWolf> it done
nothing
L1551[14:05:30] <Kenny> try df
L1552[14:05:46] <LoneWolf> ok what am I
looking for?
L1553[14:06:26] <Kenny> a long series of
numbers/letters
L1554[14:06:41] <LoneWolf> nope
L1555[14:06:43] <LoneWolf> just a
list
L1556[14:06:44] <LoneWolf> of
L1557[14:06:45] <LoneWolf> idk
L1558[14:06:46] <LoneWolf> what
L1559[14:06:48] <LoneWolf> o.o
L1560[14:06:51] <Kenny> ok
L1561[14:07:08] <Kenny> you are in
creative?
L1562[14:07:11] <LoneWolf> ya
L1563[14:07:24] <Kenny> get rid of that
drive and get a new one
L1564[14:07:54] <LoneWolf> now what
L1565[14:08:01] <Kenny> do df
L1566[14:08:14] <LoneWolf> ok
L1567[14:08:24] <Gopher> gotta go for a
bit, bbl
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L1569[14:08:48] <LoneWolf> now what
L1570[14:09:00] <Kenny> there shouil\d be
a listing there that starts with a letter or a number and contains
nothing but that
L1571[14:09:03] <Kenny> should*
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L1573[14:09:26] <Kenny> someting like
3e4445666d7777a999e
L1574[14:09:44] <LoneWolf>
462df2e5-4819-411a-a16a-80f8913c5402
L1575[14:09:49] <Kenny> yep
L1576[14:10:03] <Kenny> what do you want
to call this drive?
L1577[14:10:03] <LoneWolf> ok
L1578[14:10:11] <LoneWolf>
testdrive
L1579[14:10:23] <Kenny> type label -a 462
testdrive
L1580[14:10:41] <LoneWolf> Yea I get this
far.
L1581[14:10:51] <LoneWolf> so now
what
L1582[14:10:58] <Kenny> now type mount
testdrive /test
L1583[14:11:11] <LoneWolf> now what
L1584[14:11:14] <Pingwolf> ah, MMC is
bugged -_-
L1585[14:11:17] <Kenny> nos\w do
dir
L1586[14:11:22] <LoneWolf> dir
L1587[14:11:23] <LoneWolf> woops
L1588[14:11:34] <LoneWolf> ok now
what
L1589[14:11:51] <Kenny> you should see
some folders, one of them being /test
L1590[14:11:59] <LoneWolf> i see
L1591[14:12:05] <Kenny> type cd
test
L1592[14:12:11] <LoneWolf> bin/ boot/
lib/ mnt/ test/ tmp/ usr/ init.lua
L1593[14:12:14] <LoneWolf> cd tst
L1594[14:12:17] <LoneWolf> crap
sorry
L1595[14:12:19] <Kenny> cd test
L1596[14:12:31] <LoneWolf> ok now
what
L1597[14:12:36] <Kenny> your dri\ve is
now mounted and you are in the folder for saving files to
L1598[14:12:50] <LoneWolf> but when I
type dir nothing comes up
L1599[14:13:03] <Kenny> because the drive
is empty
L1600[14:13:15] <Kenny> it has no files
on it till you write them to it
L1601[14:13:19] <LoneWolf> ok now is
there a way to set up a rednet server system like in CC?
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L1603[14:13:44] <Kenny> that i cannot
say. i haven't worked with the server yet
L1604[14:13:49] <Kenny> but there should
be
L1605[14:14:06] <Kenny> you would need a
network card in your computer
L1606[14:14:09] <LoneWolf> ok is there a
pastebin get <code> function so I don't have to recreate my
code?
L1607[14:14:16] <Kenny> the OC cxomputer
that is
L1608[14:14:39] <LoneWolf> ok is there a
pastebin get <code> function so I don't have to recreate my
code?
L1609[14:14:48] <Kenny> there is but i am
not aware of how to use it. i do know you will need an internet
card to use it
L1610[14:14:59] <LoneWolf> jesus
L1611[14:15:05] <LoneWolf> I might as
well use a tier 3 pc
L1612[14:15:35] <Kenny> you will need at
least a tier 2 so a tier 3 pc isd best
L1613[14:15:50] <LoneWolf> ok how do I
make the text bigger on a tier 3 pc cuzz its so friggen small
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L1615[14:16:20] <Kenny> to my knowledge
therfe is no way to make the text larger
L1616[14:16:29] <Kenny> there*
L1617[14:16:44] <Pingwolf> decrease
resolution
L1618[14:17:02] <Pingwolf> i got MMC to
work, so ill join you soon lonewolf
L1619[14:17:09] <Kenny> ping use your
real nick
L1620[14:17:30] <Kenny> i'm still trying
to figure out who the hell Maxwolf is
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L1624[14:17:46] <Symmetryc> lol
L1625[14:17:47] <Maxwolf> Kenny I am
coder for Mad Science
L1626[14:17:49] <ping> maxwolf is the dev
of madscience
L1627[14:17:52] <ping> dammit,
ninja
L1628[14:18:04] <LoneWolf> lol nice
ping
L1629[14:18:05] <Kenny> how did he get
voice?
L1630[14:18:16] <Maxwolf> Sangar gave it
to me
L1631[14:18:31] <ping> .logmatch !flags
Maxwolf
L1632[14:18:32] <^v> ping, Total: 4,
Random: <ping> !flags Maxwolf +Vv
L1633[14:18:34] <Maxwolf> I also help
work on atomic science and other calc mods.
L1634[14:18:43] <ping> flail
L1635[14:18:57] <ping> LoneWolf, your CC
configs arent default :/
L1636[14:19:04] <LoneWolf> Nahp
L1637[14:19:27] <LoneWolf> need me send
you?
L1638[14:19:53] <Maxwolf> Kenny I can
answer any questions you have, no worries. I did just come here
today :3
L1639[14:19:54] <ping> yes
L1640[14:19:57] <ping> send me
config
L1641[14:20:00] <ping> or delete CC
L1643[14:20:20] <Kenny> hold on
L1644[14:20:46] <Kenny> it wasn't that
Max, i have a special highlighting used for those that have been
voiced in the channel
L1645[14:20:58] <Kenny> your name wasn't
highlighting and i didn't recognize it
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L1647[14:21:10] <Maxwolf> Oh okies,
stranger danger begone!
L1648[14:21:12] <Maxwolf> Nice to meet
you Kenny
L1649[14:21:14] <Kenny> i scrolled back
up and saw where Sangar gave you voiced
L1650[14:21:44] *
Kenny is channel guard dog
L1651[14:22:26] <Maxwolf> Nice! Do you
work on OC also?
L1652[14:22:28] <Kenny> i have you in the
list now so no worries
L1653[14:22:46] <Kenny> i test. do lua
programs, and i'm working on my own mods
L1654[14:23:02] <Kenny> as well as form
some mods and give themn OC support hehe
L1655[14:23:05] <Kenny> fork*
L1656[14:23:30] <Maxwolf> Well cool! We
are in the same boat then~ I am another coder so will try to help
if I can
L1657[14:23:42] <Maxwolf> Been doing it
for about 20 years or so.
L1658[14:23:44] <Symmetryc> Kenny: Kenny
has mods :O
L1659[14:23:57] <Kenny> yes Sym
L1660[14:24:14] <Symmetryc> Kenny: On
your Github?
L1661[14:24:20] <Kenny> i have OpenFrames
and i'm reworking the Redstone Jukebox
L1662[14:24:39] <Kenny> my personal one
yes, not the OpenPrograms git
L1663[14:25:00] <Kenny> OpenProhrams is
for my lua code
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L1665[14:26:11] <Kenny> Max, i can use
all the help io can get. hehe
L1666[14:26:40] <Kenny> I'm fairly new to
modding and i've grabbed a couple of dropped mods to
revitalize
L1667[14:27:13] <Kenny> OpenFrames is a
fork of Redstone In Motion since JAK has dropped it
L1668[14:27:45] <Kenny> and Redstone
Jukebox is one that the mod dev let go and hasn't updated in almost
a year
L1669[14:29:09] <Symmetryc> Kenny:
Nice
L1670[14:29:11] <Maxwolf> That is cool
Kenny, we will work well together then! The Jukebox idea sounds
cool, was you going to add more records or something?
L1671[14:29:35] <Kenny> actually i added
in volume control hehe
L1672[14:30:00] <Maxwolf> Oh wait I think
I saw a video for that!
L1673[14:30:10] <Maxwolf> Didn't you use
the strength of the redstone signal to change volume?
L1674[14:30:11] <Kenny> you can currently
add 1000 songs to the list so i think that is enough :)
L1675[14:30:39] <Kenny> the strength of
the redstone was for how far away you could hear it
L1676[14:30:50] <Maxwolf> Ah my mistake
:3
L1677[14:30:55] <Maxwolf> That is where I
have seen you from before then
L1678[14:30:59] <Maxwolf> I remember
that
L1679[14:31:15] <Kenny> i'm not
sidben
L1680[14:31:27] <Kenny> he's let the mod
go since 1.6.2
L1681[14:32:00] <Kenny> i updated it to
1.6.4 for a friend and have been working at adding in some features
of my own
L1682[14:32:11] <Maxwolf> Pretty sure it
was you, I remember a K and not an S name.
L1683[14:32:23] <Kenny> volume control
was one. it actually turns the MC music volume up and down
L1684[14:32:36] <Kenny> on the MC
forums?
L1685[14:33:08] <Kenny> i know. you might
have heard me talk about it in #calclavia
L1686[14:33:22]
⇦ Parts: LoneWolf (~Damion@76.177.165.49)
(Leaving))
L1687[14:33:32] <Kenny> and trhe K would
have Kodos who i udpated it for
L1688[14:33:52] ***
Death||Away is now known as Death
L1689[14:34:47] <Kenny> unless he has
passed around, he has the only 1.6.4 version of Redstone Jukebox to
my knowledge
L1690[14:35:24] <Kenny> though i do have
it uploaded to mediafire if anyone else wanted it
L1691[14:36:46] *
Symmetryc eats Kenny
L1692[14:36:46] <^v> Kenny makes
Symmetryc constipated and loses 8 hp ( 1012 now )
L1693[14:36:52] <Symmetryc> :(
L1694[14:37:26] <Maxwolf> Do I start with
1000 HP?
L1695[14:37:31] <Kenny> all you had to do
was open your mouth. Which suprprise me you didn't cause you always
talking hehe
L1696[14:37:54] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf:
Yeah
L1697[14:38:02] <Symmetryc> You can
actually heal though
L1698[14:38:08] *
Symmetryc eats Symmetryc
L1699[14:38:08] <^v> Symmetryc gains 27
hp ( 1039 now )
L1700[14:38:11] <Symmetryc> ^
L1701[14:38:12]
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L1702[14:38:15] <Symmetryc> If you eat
yourself
L1703[14:38:22] <Symmetryc> you get
healed :D
L1704[14:38:24] <Maxwolf> EhEhehe, do I
also heal over time?
L1705[14:38:28] <Symmetryc> Nope
L1706[14:38:33] <Kenny> sym, that justs
says so totally wrong
L1707[14:38:39] <Kenny> says=sounds
L1708[14:38:43] <Maxwolf> That is cool
:D
L1709[14:38:52] <bolens1112> I came in on
a strange part of this conversation.
L1710[14:38:54] <Symmetryc> Kenny:
lulz
L1711[14:39:15] <Kenny> i'll say you did
lol
L1712[14:39:28] *
Symmetryc stabs bolens1112
L1713[14:39:37] <bolens1112> *bolens1112
dies
L1714[14:39:43] *
bolens1112 dies
L1715[14:39:51] <bolens1112> yeah thats
what I meant to do
L1716[14:39:59] <bolens1112> commands and
stuff
L1717[14:40:03] <Symmetryc> bolens1112:
Hmm, the rpg was supposed to actually reduce hp...
L1718[14:40:03] <Kenny> Kenny eats
bolens1112
L1719[14:40:15] *
Symmetryc eats bolens1112
L1720[14:40:15] <^v> Symmetryc gains 34
hp ( 1073 now )
L1721[14:40:19] <Symmetryc> ^ there we
go
L1722[14:40:19] *
bolens1112 feels akward
L1723[14:40:25] <Kenny> HOLD ON
L1724[14:40:33] <bolens1112> lol
L1725[14:40:41] <Symmetryc> all caps
.-.
L1726[14:40:45] <Kenny> i did it first,
where the hell are my points
L1727[14:40:46] <Symmetryc> what's the
matter
L1728[14:40:57] *
Symmetryc slaps Kenny
L1729[14:40:57] <^v> Kenny Loses 10 hp (
990 now )
L1730[14:40:59] <Symmetryc> :D
L1731[14:41:07] <Symmetryc> You have 990
points
L1732[14:41:17] *
bolens1112 slaps Symmetryc
L1733[14:41:18] <Kenny> i'm gonna kick
that fucking bot
L1734[14:41:27] <Kenny> i did the eat
before you smartass :P
L1735[14:41:28] <ping> wat
L1736[14:41:36] <Symmetryc> Kenny: It
missed
L1737[14:41:43] <Symmetryc> Just like
bolens's slap that he just did
L1738[14:41:50] <bolens1112> bummer
L1739[14:41:58] <Kenny> get my name out
of the damn thing if all i do is lose points
L1740[14:42:03] <bolens1112> actually
kenny did not send it as a command
L1741[14:42:08] <Maxwolf> Awwww
L1742[14:42:16] <Maxwolf> Symmetryc, can
you make buffs?
L1743[14:42:20] <bolens1112> is it not
supposed to be a /me does whatever?
L1744[14:42:32] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf:
Yeah
L1745[14:42:42] <ping>
.>rpg.Kenny.hp=99999999
L1746[14:42:44] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf:
You'd have to write a plugin to add the commands
L1747[14:42:50] <Symmetryc> ping:
nuuuuu
L1748[14:42:51] <ping> er derp
L1749[14:42:58] <Maxwolf> Make it so
Kenny has "guard dog" buff he can never fall below 50%
health
L1750[14:43:11] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: It's
ping's bot
L1751[14:43:15] <Maxwolf> Ah okies
:3
L1752[14:43:18]
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L1753[14:43:19] <Symmetryc> :P
L1754[14:43:25] <Symmetryc> It's actually
quite nice
L1755[14:43:26] <ping> theree,edited db
so Kenny has infnite health :D
L1756[14:43:29] <Symmetryc> You can do
inline lua
L1757[14:43:35] <Symmetryc> .lua print
"hello"
L1758[14:43:35] <^v> Symmetryc,
hello
L1759[14:43:47] <bolens1112> too
cool
L1760[14:43:50] <Symmetryc> And lua5.3
working release
L1761[14:43:58] <Symmetryc> .lua53 print(
3 // 5)
L1762[14:43:59] <^v> Symmetryc, 0
L1763[14:43:59] *
Maxwolf stabs Kenny
L1764[14:44:00] <^v> Kenny loses 30 hp (
99999969 now )
L1766[14:44:02] -Kibibyte- [Maxwolf] OH MY GOD!
THEY KILLED KENNY! | by korea8844 | 7m20s | 160w3d ago | 1,218,64
views | Rated:
4.75/5.00
L1767[14:44:20] <Kenny> i am so used to
that
L1768[14:44:24] <bolens1112> .lua for i =
1, 2 do print("hello")
L1769[14:44:25] <^v> bolens1112, lua:1:
'end' expected near <eof>
L1770[14:44:28] <bolens1112> lol
L1771[14:44:30] <bolens1112> .lua for i =
1, 2 do print("hello") end
L1772[14:44:31] <^v> bolens1112, hello |
hello
L1773[14:44:39] <Kenny> Max has no idea
how long Kenny has been around hehe
L1774[14:44:51] ***
alekso56 is now known as alekso56_off
L1775[14:44:56] *
Kenny is older than time
L1776[14:45:08] <bolens1112>
robot.find("kenny") robot.swing()
L1777[14:45:11] <bolens1112> ?
L1778[14:45:21] <ping> according to
LuaSocket, Kenny is older than the universe
L1779[14:45:21] <Maxwolf> What the
cartoon or you?
L1780[14:45:27] <Kenny> me
L1781[14:45:34] <Symmetryc> .age
Kenny
L1782[14:45:38] <Maxwolf> I am from 1985,
when you from? :P
L1783[14:45:46] <Kenny> 57 the 23rd of
this month
L1784[14:45:52] <bolens1112> Maxwolf, the
future
L1785[14:45:54] <Maxwolf> Well hot
damn!
L1786[14:45:59] <Kenny> so i'm from
1957
L1787[14:46:07] <Maxwolf> You could be my
father!
L1788[14:46:12] <Kenny> i was 28 when you
were born
L1789[14:46:23] <Kenny> and you and
Sangar are the same age
L1790[14:46:28] <Maxwolf> Hey cool
:)
L1791[14:46:29] <ping> \o/
L1792[14:46:37] <Symmetryc> \o\
L1793[14:46:45] <Symmetryc> wat
L1794[14:46:45] <ping> Maxwolf, what do
you mean by buffs
L1795[14:46:51] <Symmetryc> ohhh
L1796[14:46:53] <Kenny> Sym wants to be a
cheerleader :P
L1797[14:47:02] <ping> /o/
L1798[14:47:10] <Symmetryc> I was trying
to type something else in lol
L1800[14:47:13] -Kibibyte- [Maxwolf] DUANE!!! |
by everythinglsterrible | 39s | 117w2d ago | 573,426 views | Rated:
4.96/5.00
L1801[14:47:14] <ping> :P
L1802[14:47:15] *
Maxwolf dances
L1803[14:47:16] <Symmetryc> I was
wondering why it wasn't working
L1804[14:47:25] <Symmetryc> It was 'cause
it started with / lol
L1805[14:47:28] *
Symmetryc derps
L1806[14:48:23] <Maxwolf> That is cool
though Kenny I started coding when I was like 8. First program was
BASIC recreation of dope wars on a Atari 1040 ST.
L1807[14:48:37] <Maxwolf> Good stuff
:3
L1808[14:48:45] <ping> D: BASIC
L1809[14:48:46] <Maxwolf> Also was a big
fan of C64 and IBM beige boxes
L1810[14:48:46] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf:
Dang, 8? .-.
L1811[14:48:53] <Maxwolf> My dad got me
into it
L1812[14:48:59] <Maxwolf> He was into
mainframes and crap
L1813[14:49:06] <Maxwolf> Working with
tape reels and crays
L1814[14:49:20] <Maxwolf> I could never
get near those things though so I played with the consumer
versions
L1815[14:50:56] <Maxwolf> That is why I
started at such a young age though, he was always doing those
things around the house. I remember laughing at the sound the modem
would make when you dial out, one of my first memories is that
noise.
L1816[14:52:20] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: you
have the perfect prodigy background lol
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L1818[14:52:21] <Kenny> \o
L1819[14:52:21]
zsh sets mode: +v on Gopher
L1820[14:52:25] <Symmetryc> Hello
L1821[14:52:29] <Gopher> hi
L1822[14:52:29] <ping> advertisement
should be illegal
L1823[14:52:32] <Symmetryc> Kenny: Was
that wave automated?
L1824[14:52:37] <Gopher> yawp
L1825[14:52:47] <Gopher> it's amusing
when there's a netsplit
L1826[14:53:00] <ping> atleast illegal
for things you pay for
L1827[14:53:17] <Symmetryc> ping:
why
L1828[14:53:39] <ping> Symmetryc, because
advertisements purpose is only to brainwash
L1829[14:54:44] <Symmetryc> ping: It's
the consumer's fault for being persuaded (unless, of course, it was
advertising false information which is a seperate thing
entirely...)
L1830[14:54:58] <ping> no, i meant its
literally brainwashing
L1831[14:55:08] <Symmetryc> Using
chemicals and crap?
L1832[14:55:34] <ping> no, when you look
at an ad all you see is a bunch of happy people showing you a
product
L1833[14:55:48] <ping> in your brain this
assosiates the product with happyness
L1834[14:55:52] <Symmetryc> That's
persuasion lol
L1835[14:56:05] <ping> which increases
the probabilty of you choosing that product over others
L1836[14:56:16] <Maxwolf> Personally it
scares me, especially stock photos
L1837[14:56:55] <Kenny> i started out
with an old TRS-80
L1838[14:57:08] <Kenny> had an issue here
i had to take care of
L1839[14:57:41] <Kenny> however, i was 21
before they came out where i could mess withthem
L1840[14:57:58] <Symmetryc> ping: That's
like saying having lower prices than competitors should be illegal
because it increases the chance of someone choosing your
product
L1841[14:58:06] <Kenny> and ping, i'll
have you know i have a degree in Marketing
L1842[14:58:48] <Kenny> as well as Bus
Admin, Programming, and Info Systems
L1843[14:59:07] <Symmetryc> dang
L1844[14:59:10] <Kenny> an Assoc in
Sociology and Psychology
L1845[14:59:34] ***
prasselpikachu is now known as prassel|off
L1846[14:59:37] <ping> Symmetryc,
"low prices" is shoved in peoples face more than the
actual price
L1847[14:59:58] <Kenny> agreed, and i
never listen to them about it
L1849[15:00:25] <Symmetryc> ping: again,
that's the person's fault for not being informed
L1850[15:00:42] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf:
lol
L1851[15:00:48] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf:
False advertising is different
L1852[15:00:55] <Symmetryc> And I agree,
that should be illegal
L1853[15:01:05] <ping> its
psychological
L1854[15:01:32] <Maxwolf> Ah okies I see
where you are coming from, yeah all those things should be
banned
L1855[15:01:42] <Maxwolf> Same crap like
how they make radio commercials louder than the actual music
L1856[15:01:47] <Maxwolf> They do it on
TV also
L1857[15:02:08] <Maxwolf> Commercials are
always twice as loud as the actual program you are watching
L1858[15:02:19] ***
prassel|off is now known as prasselpikachu
L1859[15:02:28] <Symmetryc> ping: let's
say it does associate happiness with the product and the person
does choose it, the person will then be happy with that product,
which makes it the better product
L1860[15:02:32] <Maxwolf> It's supposed
to have some psychological effect but all it does it drive me
nuts.
L1861[15:02:41] <ping> for example, if
you want to get potatoes, are you going to go to your corner market
with dirt everywhere or are you going to go to the huge wallmart
which is brightly lit and exessively cleaned
L1862[15:03:12] <ping> most people would
say wallmart
L1863[15:03:12] <Kenny> i'm going where
they are cheapest
L1864[15:03:13] <Symmetryc> ping:
Walmart, because the potatoes are clean whereas the others are
dirty
L1865[15:03:31] <Kenny> no potato is
clean to use right out of the bag
L1866[15:03:36] <ping> both the potatoes
are functionally the same
L1867[15:03:41] <Kenny> they have to be
washed before you use them
L1868[15:03:48] <ping> and usually people
wash their vegetables before cooking them
L1869[15:04:08] <Maxwolf> I personally am
dictated by price, if I can get cheaper taters at a famrers market
I would get them there. I do live in the middle of a city though so
I can just walk or take a train almost anywhere,
L1870[15:04:12] <Kenny> so why worry if
the potatoes have dirt, that simply means they are fresher
L1871[15:05:00] <Symmetryc> ping: In that
case, the dirty market would have a less satisfactory shopping
experience for the functionally same product
L1872[15:05:14] <Symmetryc> So of course
I would still go to the Walmart
L1873[15:05:23] <ping> oh and the beuty
industry is a prime example of how years of advertisement can make
billions of dollars by increasing expectations to an absurd
level
L1874[15:06:06] ***
Biohazard is now known as ^
L1875[15:06:09] <ping> what do you see on
TV: mostly perfectly clean everything
L1876[15:06:17] <ping> this increases
your standards
L1877[15:06:43] <ping> and kids watch tv
waaaaaaaay too much
L1878[15:06:43] <Kenny> Carrot Top is
back!
L1879[15:06:55] <Gopher> walmart wouldn't
be as big as they are if they depended on people in cities with
lots of other options to do their shopping there.
L1880[15:06:59] <Gopher> Not that they do
badly in cities
L1881[15:06:59] *
ping gets out the machine guns
L1882[15:07:25] <Gopher> but it's the 95%
of the area in the us that's a rather long drive to a decent city
where walmart does so well
L1883[15:07:39] <ping> Gopher, they do
badly in cities because its hard to get massive commercial
zones
L1884[15:07:58] <ping> and property tax
is high because density
L1885[15:08:06] <Gopher> they have a hard
time opening new locations, but that's not the same thing as doing
badly
L1886[15:08:43] <ping> i havent seen a
wallmart in months
L1887[15:09:00] <ping> last time was in
ohio on a road trip
L1888[15:09:04] <Gopher> they don't build
many in cities. And they don't really depend on advertising,
either.
L1889[15:09:37] <Gopher> they build them
in the middle of nowhere, in more convenient range to half a dozen
minor towns and cities than the nearest proper city people were
otherwise going to for a lot of their needs
L1890[15:09:50] <Gopher> like where I
live, heh
L1891[15:10:04] <ping> so, new rant topic
coal power
L1892[15:10:21] <Gopher> coal dust!
:boom:
L1893[15:10:24] <Symmetryc> ping:
Advertising is just another way of adding stuff to a product's
value, just like adding bigger seats to a car
L1894[15:10:27] <bolens1112> Actually
coal is quite clean compared with some other forms of power.
L1895[15:10:36] <ping> it kills the most
people
L1896[15:10:44] <Symmetryc> ping: Except
that the addition isn't physical, it's mental
L1897[15:10:46] <ping> bolens1112, where
did you get this info?
L1898[15:10:51] <Gopher> it's also used
on the largest scale.
L1899[15:11:09] <bolens1112> ping,
compare it with the output of cars
L1900[15:11:15] <bolens1112> coal is
extremely clean
L1901[15:11:16] <Kenny> coal is a cleaner
source of energy than nuclear
L1902[15:11:52] <Symmetryc> coal is
technically also renewable
L1903[15:11:54] <Kenny> coal doesn't
produce the toxic waste that gasoline does
L1904[15:11:54] <bolens1112> I would say
old nuclear (which is what we are running)
L1905[15:12:16] <ping> Symmetryc, its as
renewable as oil :P
L1906[15:12:17] <bolens1112> And the
output from coal plants is scrubbed soo well.
L1907[15:12:50] <bolens1112> there is not
enough space in a car to scrub all the crud out compared to
coal
L1908[15:13:07] <Symmetryc> ping: Just
saying lol
L1909[15:13:33] <bolens1112> That is why
electric cars are less polluting from an energy standpoint but the
only problem is: batteries.
L1910[15:13:35] <ping> Kenny, define
cleaner because nuclear is regulated too much ._.
L1911[15:14:00] <bolens1112> ping, less
crap that has to be stored underground for a long long time
L1912[15:14:04] <Gopher> ...how did I
change tabs there XD
L1913[15:14:14] <Maxwolf> My
understanding is that we as a human race are good at CREATING
energy, vast amounts of it, hotter than the surface of the sun or
stars even and have the ability contain it.
L1915[15:14:17] <bolens1112> with the
possibility of rupture
L1916[15:14:29] <Gopher> I'm seriously
tempted to invest in nuclear waste storage XD
L1917[15:14:33] <Maxwolf> The problem we
currently face is STORAGE of said energy, we have no technology
capable of holding the energy
L1918[15:14:43] <Gopher> a couple of
generations of nuclear tech from now and some of that horrible crap
is gonna become fuel
L1919[15:14:46] <Maxwolf> Everything must
be created on demand
L1920[15:14:55] <bolens1112> So very
true. We rely on the grid for "storage".
L1921[15:15:07] <bolens1112> Gopher, very
true.
L1922[15:15:23] <Maxwolf> Aye, there is
no such thing as "energy reserves" it's talked about in
terms of sustainability not how much you can store while it's
off.
L1923[15:15:40] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: why
don't we just use mfsu's?
L1924[15:15:45] <Maxwolf> Aye, problem
solved
L1925[15:15:45] <Symmetryc> :P
L1926[15:15:49] <Maxwolf> EhEhehEhe
L1927[15:15:51] <bolens1112> Exactly
perfect!
L1928[15:16:05] <Maxwolf> Every house
with an MFSU
L1929[15:16:07] <ping> bolens1112,
american nuclear waste is stored in large bins over concrete, if
you hold a geiger counter right up to one of these bins, it is less
radioactive than new york
L1930[15:16:08] <Maxwolf> Energy problems
solved
L1931[15:16:21] <Symmetryc> #genius
#legend #tech
L1932[15:16:24] <ping> these bins just
sit there
L1933[15:16:29] <Symmetryc> jks lol
L1934[15:16:34] <ping> they do nothing,
they dont pollute
L1935[15:16:42] <bolens1112> ping, yea
for the new stuff but they have had some of the old stuff leak
because: hindsight is 20 20
L1936[15:16:47] <Kenny> no MFSU,
Gregarius touched it :P
L1937[15:16:55] <Maxwolf> EhEheheh
L1938[15:17:04] <Symmetryc> Hmmm
L1939[15:17:11] <Symmetryc> Redstone
Energy Cell :D
L1940[15:17:28] <Maxwolf> Graphite is
showing lots of promise IRL in terms of energy storage
L1941[15:17:34] <Gopher> dammit. Just
when I needed slimes, new moon.
L1942[15:17:41] <bolens1112> I like
energy cubes from mekanisim
L1943[15:17:53] <Symmetryc> Oh yeah there
cool
L1944[15:17:58] <Symmetryc>
&they're
L1945[15:18:02] <bolens1112> Maxwolf, is
that supercapacitors or some such?
L1946[15:19:02] <Maxwolf> bolens1112,
yeah graphite supercapcitors. LIke a mix of old and new tech.
L1948[15:19:03] -Kibibyte- [Maxwolf] NanoTech:
Graphene 'SemiConductor, UltraCapacitor' Super Batteries | by
aurafaux | 3m3s | 41w1d ago | 4,532 views | Rated:
5.00/5.00
L1949[15:19:20] <Kenny> buy up all the
pencils you can get!
L1950[15:19:22] <bolens1112> Maxwolf,
they have been talking about those for a while, but i want one now.
:)
L1951[15:19:27] ***
prasselpikachu is now known as prassel|off
L1952[15:19:50] <Maxwolf> Aye this is
something that has been around for a while but the problem was the
production of the graphite discs it took expensive chemical process
as I understand it
L1953[15:19:59] <Maxwolf> These guys are
able to do it with pencils, scotch tape and CD burner
L1954[15:20:04]
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(Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)
L1955[15:20:06] <bolens1112> wow
L1956[15:20:08] <Maxwolf> The price for
production goes WAY down
L1957[15:20:13] <SKS|AFK> :o
L1958[15:20:19] <bolens1112> McGiver of
the science world
L1959[15:20:26] ***
Death is now known as [EA]Chaz
L1960[15:20:29] *
bolens1112 can't spell
L1961[15:20:43] <Maxwolf> Yeah when I
first heard about the scotch tape thing you just look up at the sky
like "UnnNgggg why didn't anybody think of that"
L1962[15:20:48] <Maxwolf> That is how you
know it's a good idea :D
L1963[15:21:03] <bolens1112> I wish it
had been duct tape
L1964[15:21:26] <Maxwolf> It's insane,
the static electricity on the scotch tape keeps the carbon atoms
aligned
L1965[15:21:29] <Maxwolf> Like wut
L1966[15:21:42] <bolens1112> ARRG two
chunks mined and no diamonds.
L1967[15:21:48] <bolens1112> Maxwolf,
that is crazy.
L1968[15:21:57] <bolens1112> How do they
think of crud like that
L1969[15:22:12] <Maxwolf> It was by
accident! That video I posted explains how they actually discovered
it
L1970[15:22:22] <bolens1112> cool
L1971[15:22:24] <Maxwolf> They use the
scotch tape method to power a LED light for a few hours
L1972[15:23:07] <Maxwolf> I try to
imagine what that process would look like on an industrial
scale
L1973[15:23:19] <Maxwolf> You end up with
things that look and sound like science fiction
L1975[15:23:33] <Symmetryc>
"UnnNgggg why didn't anybody think of that" That's what I
thought when I discovered Lisp :D
L1976[15:23:34] <bolens1112> soo
cool
L1977[15:23:44] <ping> wait
L1978[15:23:45] <ping> fail
L1979[15:23:50] <Maxwolf> Symmetryc, omg
lisp
L1981[15:24:12] <Maxwolf> I like the joke
that perl is the glue that holds the internet together
L1982[15:24:19] <ping> oh
L1983[15:24:24] <ping> already lined that
one
L1984[15:24:35] <Maxwolf> Whats this
ping?
L1985[15:24:37] *
Maxwolf reads
L1986[15:25:06] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: Uh
perl has nothing to do with lisp
L1987[15:25:12] <Maxwolf> I know it
doesn't
L1988[15:25:17] <Maxwolf> It's a
completely different langauge
L1990[15:25:24] <Maxwolf> I was
referencing something else
L1991[15:25:49] <Maxwolf> lisp is on that
same level though, you hear stories about guys getting higher plane
of existance and shit by learning the inner workings of lisp.
L1992[15:25:50] <ping> mind you, this
scales horozontally too
L1993[15:26:03] <Maxwolf> I have yet to
experience such a thing
L1994[15:26:09] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf:
except that with lisp it's true
L1995[15:26:25] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: with
perl it's just that people feel like it's a human language or some
crap
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L1997[15:27:30] <Maxwolf> I have used
both languages before in my previous work, not at the same time but
for different things. They serve their purpose and serve it
well.
L1998[15:27:44] <Maxwolf> lisp as I
understand it is a langauge that writes more of itself
L1999[15:27:56] <ping> if anyone gives me
sandboxes for languages, ie lisp i can add them to ^v
L2000[15:28:18] <Symmetryc> ping: add
Clojure pl0x
L2001[15:28:22] <Symmetryc> dialect of
lisp
L2002[15:28:36] <Symmetryc> Idk if I
could sandbox it
L2003[15:28:44] <Maxwolf> chroot it
L2004[15:28:49] <Maxwolf> That is how I
would sandbox it
L2005[15:28:52] <ping> Symmetryc, find me
a sandbox and ill add it
L2006[15:29:03] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: he
means sandbox the env not only the path
L2007[15:29:18] <ping> Maxwolf, it also
needs time limit :P
L2008[15:29:19] <Maxwolf> You can with a
chroot? Could even make it run it's own filesystem and kernel
L2009[15:30:17] <ping> no fs pls
L2010[15:30:23] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: hmm
does chroot limit access of all variables that could let the user
interfere with the program itself?
L2011[15:30:29] <Symmetryc> in this case
the irc bot?
L2012[15:30:55] <Maxwolf> It would put
the program in it's own environment seperate of the main system.
Think of a virtual machine without the virtual part.
L2013[15:31:20] <ping> fun fact: solar
kills more people per watt than nuclear
L2014[15:31:40] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: Ah
okay, my knowledge of chroot is limited to a mimic of it that
someone made for CC
L2015[15:32:08] <Maxwolf> That is where
my knowledge ends, I dunno!
L2016[15:32:14] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: All
it did was make it so that a specified directory became the root
directory, but you could still alter _G, etc.
L2017[15:33:16] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf:
Anyways, the reason why Lisp is so elegant is because everything in
the language is just another data structure in the language
L2018[15:33:58] <Maxwolf> Like how
everything in C# is an Object no matter what?
L2019[15:34:00] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: So
like in Lua, the '+' operation isn't an actual data structure of
Lua, but in Lisp, '+' is an actual function that you can
overwrite/overload/w\e
L2020[15:34:38] <Maxwolf> OH!
L2021[15:34:51] <Maxwolf> I see what you
mean, you could redefine what the keyword value + means
L2022[15:34:53] <ping> this is also why
Lisp is one of the slower languages
L2023[15:35:03] <Symmetryc> ping:
no[pe
L2024[15:35:05] <Symmetryc> *nope
L2025[15:35:14] <Symmetryc> Another
example would be variable names
L2026[15:36:10] <Symmetryc> They are
actually just special versions of the string datatype that instead
of resolving to a char array, they resolve to whatever the symbols
value is
L2027[15:36:29] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: In
Lisp it looks like this: (+ 1 2) ;;3
L2028[15:36:35] <Symmetryc> Btw ;; means
comment
L2029[15:36:51] <ping> wait
L2030[15:36:58] <ping> ._.
L2031[15:37:00] <Maxwolf> That means add
the symbols of 1 and 2?
L2032[15:37:01] <Symmetryc> And a normal
function call looks like (foo 1 2 3 arg1 arg2)
L2033[15:37:26] <Symmetryc> Btw, you can
name variable names with _any_ symbol other than tokens
L2034[15:37:33] <Symmetryc> So '+' is
literally just a variable name
L2035[15:37:43] <Symmetryc> You can
create your own function with the name of '+'
L2036[15:37:55] <Symmetryc> And you can
use it just like you would with the addition
L2037[15:37:55] <ping> i like stack based
better
L2038[15:37:57] <Maxwolf> Gotcha, I could
override what it does or what it even means in the context of my
program while it is running.
L2039[15:38:13] <Symmetryc> Not only
that, but everything is data
L2040[15:38:22] <ping> .superstack 1 2
add output
L2041[15:38:23] <Symmetryc> So it's like
writing in Lua like this:
L2042[15:38:26] <ping> .<
L2043[15:38:34] <Symmetryc>
{"foo", 1 2}
L2044[15:38:35] <ping> fail
L2045[15:38:39] <Symmetryc> Which would
be foo(1, 2)
L2046[15:39:16] <Symmetryc> Except lets
say your code was like the former version, you could do
metaprogramming extremely easily by adjusting the area the data is
in
L2047[15:39:22] <ping> enough
distractions, i will figure out how to compile this neural
networking lub
L2048[15:39:26] <ping> lib*
L2049[15:39:28] <Symmetryc> That's what
you can do in Lisp!
L2051[15:39:52] <Maxwolf> In my
understanding that is why it is good for writing other programs,
feeding lisp a data stream and having it crunch it into another
executable format which make up a larger system. The only thing I
can relate to this is more modern systems is like how game engines
use shader cache compilers and will pre-compute (compile) all of
the shaders for various video cards ahead of time so when you run
the game it just references those rather than compiling it on
yo
L2052[15:39:53] <Maxwolf> ur rig.
L2053[15:40:44] <Maxwolf> Except with
lisp you could have it doing something like creating websites or
outputting video or pictures.
L2054[15:41:06] <Maxwolf> The
possibilities are really endless since you can redefine what
everything is
L2055[15:41:27] <Symmetryc> Yup
L2056[15:41:37] <Symmetryc> Btw, there
are no reserved words
L2057[15:41:57] <Symmetryc> Or characters
except for (, ), ;, #
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L2059[15:42:07] <Symmetryc> Oh and
"
L2060[15:42:31] <Symmetryc> So like even
to define something, you use a function
L2061[15:42:36] <Symmetryc> You never use
keywords
L2062[15:42:40] <Symmetryc> ever
L2063[15:42:59] <Maxwolf> Yeah we never
declare a new String object and fill it
L2064[15:43:01] <Symmetryc> So that way,
everything is override/overwriteable
L2065[15:43:14] <Symmetryc> as it is a
function
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L2067[15:45:54] <Symmetryc> Maxwolf: This
is why Lisp is the dominant AI programming language
L2069[15:48:38] <Maxwolf> *read
L2070[15:49:33] <Symmetryc> Thanks, I'll
try to read it later today
L2071[15:49:42] <Symmetryc> I have a lot
of work to do though :/
L2072[15:49:56] <Maxwolf> It's a good
read on how they added weight to the words being said
L2073[15:50:02] <Maxwolf> Basically
algoritm soup
L2074[15:50:22] <Maxwolf> Ex.
"Nixon" vs "Candy"
L2075[15:50:32] <Maxwolf> How can it know
one is better than the other? ;)
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L2077[15:51:02] <ping> i saw AI and had
to join
L2078[15:51:15] <Maxwolf> ;)
L2079[15:51:23] <Symmetryc> ping:
lispizbest4ai
L2080[15:51:37] <Symmetryc> :P
L2081[15:51:50] <ping> Symmetryc, i am
compiling a neural network lib for Lua
L2082[15:51:58] <ping> and it is insanely
fast
L2083[15:52:09] <Symmetryc> What does it
do?
L2084[15:52:15] <Maxwolf> One of the
hardest things I ever wrote was a weighted path finding system for
a indie FPS game. Guys would pickup new weapons if they was better
than theirs, run away if their health was less than yours, yell for
help if they knew their friends was near, etc.
L2085[15:52:25] <ping> it makes neural
networks
L2086[15:52:30] <Maxwolf> It used a
navigation mesh to draw the maths was awesome :D
L2087[15:52:43] <Symmetryc> local n =
nueral.new_neuron() n.network()
L2088[15:52:49] <Symmetryc> :D
L2089[15:52:55] <ping> no, you make
neurons in a grid
L2090[15:54:16] <Symmetryc> local g =
nueral.new_grid(5, 5) local n1, n2, n3 = g.get_nuerons({0, 0}, {1,
1}, {2, 2}) nueral.network(n1, n2, n3)
L2091[15:55:05] <ping> just google neural
networks pls.
L2092[15:56:18] <nekosune> oooh neural
nets rule
L2093[15:57:19] <Symmetryc> I looked up a
neural net tut
L2094[15:57:21] <Symmetryc> "Before
you start this subject please make sure you understand how to use
genetic algorithms thoroughly"
L2095[15:57:35] <Symmetryc> should I look
up a genetic algorithms tut
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L2104[16:25:44] <Gopher> ok. After much
spider hunting and more distractions, I finally, actually have a
turtle, which I can turn on, with a generator upgrade for refueling
in the field and a floppy to save programs on. >.<
L2105[16:26:07] <Gopher> That's enough
survival for now, I'll come back and program him to actually do
stuff later XD
L2106[16:26:17] <Symmetryc> lol
L2107[16:26:21] <Gopher> time for food,
and then back to gml
L2108[16:28:08] <Gopher> I just needed a
break from the non-stop work on gml, so I started the survival game
with the goal of "make a computer."
L2109[16:28:42] <Gopher> Realised a robot
is made of mostly the same tier 1 parts I'd started making so
changed that to robot instead, and then ... it took longer than
anticipated XD
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L2111[16:35:44] <Symmetryc> ping: did you
add the nuerons yet
L2112[16:36:02] <ping> still having
retarded makefile issues
L2113[16:36:27] <Symmetryc> ping: What
can you achieve with this library
L2114[16:36:33] <Symmetryc> Like a real
world problem
L2115[16:36:52] <ping> you can train a
neural net to do anything
L2116[16:37:11] <Symmetryc> ._.
L2117[16:37:20] <ping> add, subtract,
anything
L2118[16:37:39] <Symmetryc> Can you make
it program a more efficient version of itself
L2119[16:37:58] <ping> it doesnt know how
to program
L2120[16:38:49] <ping> i could probably
train one to code brainfuck :D
L2121[16:39:28] <Symmetryc> Oh, so you
have to teach it how to like AND, OR,etc. then teach it ALU
functions, then CPU functions, etc. until it's a computer
simulation?
L2122[16:40:12] <ping> meh
L2123[16:40:18] <Symmetryc> Or does it
come with stuff that it already knows
L2124[16:40:22] <Symmetryc> That you can
build off of
L2125[16:40:57] <ping> nope
L2126[16:41:14] <ping> it would take
exponentially more time
L2127[16:42:12] <Symmetryc> Okay
L2128[16:42:18] <Symmetryc> Idk what this
is ._.
L2129[16:42:23] <Symmetryc> ping: learn
me nuerons
L2130[16:42:42] <ping> Symmetryc, its
better for you to figure it out yourself
L2131[16:42:46] <Symmetryc> I don't get
how you train it and how it knows stuff
L2132[16:43:43] <Symmetryc> ping: I've
never been particularly inclined to do things the
"better" way :P
L2133[16:47:20] <Symmetryc> ping: After a
bit of searching around
L2134[16:47:25] <Symmetryc> is this a bit
like prolog
L2135[16:47:34] <Symmetryc> Where you say
A is true if B is true
L2136[16:47:41] <Symmetryc> And C is
false if B is true
L2137[16:47:43] <Symmetryc> etc.
L2138[16:48:01] <Symmetryc> Then you ask
if C is true if A is true or whatever
L2139[16:48:11] <Symmetryc> And then you
get and answer
L2140[16:48:27] <Symmetryc> Except this
would be on a much larger scale with more complexity
L2141[16:48:29] <Symmetryc> ?
L2142[16:49:06] <ping> well, when you
have a neural net, it tries to compensate for energy it thinks is
lacking
L2143[16:49:23] <ping> give a neuron
energy on its input and output
L2144[16:49:37] <ping> then whenever you
give it input, it will output
L2145[16:50:25] <Symmetryc> Ah, and
neurons will attempt to "share" energy with neighboring
ones in need of it, etc.?
L2146[16:50:43] <ping> not exactly
L2147[16:50:50] <Symmetryc> crap
L2148[16:51:12] <Symmetryc> so then how
do the neurons interact?
L2149[16:51:16] <Symmetryc> Or do they
just not?
L2150[16:51:22] <ping> they have
weights
L2151[16:51:38] <ping> every time you
give it data, the weights change
L2152[16:51:51] <ping> based on input,
probabilities change
L2153[16:52:18] <Symmetryc> Do weights
adjust the energy intake?
L2154[16:52:26] <Symmetryc> Or is energy
not involved with this?
L2155[16:52:46] <ping> they change what
it "expects"
L2156[16:52:52] <Symmetryc> Ohhhh
L2157[16:53:12] <Symmetryc> I know what
you're talking about now, I've seen something like this
before
L2158[16:55:02] <Symmetryc> I saw someone
and they showed off something where you give it two inputs and an
output and it will attempt to guess what operation you're doing to
create the output out of the inputs, if it's wrong you try again,
but it learns based on the previous inputs/output, so it eventually
gets it
L2159[16:55:45] <Symmetryc> ping: Is that
like what this is
L2160[17:01:47] <ping> i give up
L2162[17:02:01] <ping> its horribly
coded
L2163[17:02:03] <ping> but meh
L2164[17:04:48] <ping> \o/ github is
failing
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L2169[17:14:47] <Kenny> \o
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L2171[17:15:03] <JoshTheEnder> o/
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L2178[17:28:03] <Kenny> \o
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L2181[17:29:09] <JoshTheEnder> How is
everyone?
L2182[17:29:53] <Gopher> good, you?
L2183[17:30:27] <JoshTheEnder> I am well,
florida is hot though
L2184[17:30:44] <Gopher> yes it is
L2185[17:35:42] <JoshTheEnder> Anyone
know of any good ish paint type apps for android?
L2186[17:39:35] <ping> Symmetryc, ive
made a neural net that copies its input
L2187[17:41:03] <ping> .>
testnn:input({0}),testnn:input({1})
L2188[17:41:03] <^v> ping, 0.004 |
0.499
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L2190[17:41:23] <Symmetryc> Sorry,
back
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L2192[17:41:37] <Symmetryc> .lua
testnn
L2193[17:41:37] <^v> Symmetryc,
L2194[17:41:50] <ping> none for you
L2195[17:41:54] <ping> 5.1 side api
L2196[17:42:18] <ping> i could probably
input the entire chat log
L2197[17:42:22] <ping> ._.
L2198[17:42:25] <ping> should i?
L2199[17:42:35] <ping> methinks i shud
:3
L2200[17:42:41] <Symmetryc> k
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L2202[17:42:49] <^v> JoshTheEnder gains 8
hp ( 1008 now )
L2203[17:42:58] <JoshTheEnder> Only
8?
L2204[17:43:04] <ping> yeh
L2205[17:43:05] <Symmetryc> btw I'm
making a lib that adds better error detection
L2206[17:43:11] <ping> what do you
mean
L2207[17:43:26] <Symmetryc> It tells you
which function errored and what were its inputs
L2208[17:43:38] <Symmetryc> Not the names
of the variables, but the actual values
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L2210[17:43:43] <^v> JoshTheEnder gains
38 hp ( 1046 now )
L2211[17:43:47] <JoshTheEnder> Heh
L2212[17:44:02] *
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L2213[17:44:02] <^v> Symmetryc gains 47
hp ( 1120 now )
L2214[17:44:08] *
Symmetryc eats Symmetryc
L2215[17:44:08] <^v> Symmetryc gains 39
hp ( 1159 now )
L2216[17:44:13] <ping> stahp
L2217[17:44:16] <Symmetryc> k
L2218[17:44:18] <JoshTheEnder> Random hp
each time?
L2219[17:44:20] <ping> ul get fat
L2220[17:44:53] <Symmetryc> .lua
load("pcall(while true do unpack({}) end)")()
L2221[17:44:53] <^v> Symmetryc, lua:1:
attempt to call a nil value
L2222[17:44:54] <ping> literally one more
and you start gettin fat
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L2224[17:45:25] <^v> JoshTheEnder gains 9
hp ( 1055 now )
L2225[17:45:30] <Symmetryc> .lua
load("pcall(while true do unpack({}) end)".
"=t", _G)()
L2226[17:45:31] <^v> Symmetryc, lua:1:
')' expected near '.'
L2227[17:45:38] <Symmetryc> .lua
load("pcall(while true do unpack({}) end)",
"=t", _G)()
L2228[17:45:38] <ping> Symmetryc, pm
plox
L2229[17:45:38] <^v> Symmetryc, lua:1:
attempt to call a nil value
L2230[17:45:44] <ping> sthop
L2231[17:46:02] <ping> also, battery
dyin
L2232[17:46:07] <ping> like. now
L2233[17:46:15] <ping> 4% remaining
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L2235[17:49:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> lol
L2236[17:49:24] <JoshTheEnder> Lol, no
message
L2237[17:49:49] *
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L2238[17:49:52] <Symmetryc> ping: Did
your computer die/ did you take down ^v/ ?
L2239[17:50:54] <JoshTheEnder> .lua
print("hi")
L2240[17:51:01] <JoshTheEnder> It
ded
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L2243[17:51:25] <Symmetryc> Yup
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L2246[17:54:08] <Symmetryc> yaay
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L2248[17:54:21] *
JoshTheEnder eats Symmetryc
L2249[17:54:21] <^v> JoshTheEnder gains
31 hp ( 1086 now )
L2250[17:54:31] <ping> JoshTheEnder, your
gona get fat too
L2251[17:54:49] <ping> .>
rpg.JoshTheEnder.food
L2252[17:54:50] <^v> ping, lua:1: attempt
to index field 'JoshTheEnder' (a nil value)
L2253[17:54:55] <ping> wha
L2254[17:54:57] <ping> oh right
L2255[17:55:01] <ping> you have a weird
account
L2256[17:55:21] <JoshTheEnder> Yeah,
"ThatJ8sh
L2257[17:55:22] <ping> .>
rpg.ThatJoshGreen.food
L2258[17:55:22] <^v> ping, 361
L2259[17:55:29] <Symmetryc> Hidden food
attribute :O
L2260[17:55:31] <JoshTheEnder> Damn
tablwt
L2261[17:55:43] <ping> you have about 1
more /me eats until you get fat
L2262[17:55:54] <Symmetryc> I'mma get
fat
L2263[17:56:00] *
Symmetryc eats Symmetryc
L2264[17:56:00] <^v> Symmetryc gains 33
hp ( 1192 now )
L2265[17:56:06] *
Symmetryc is fat
L2266[17:56:12] *
JoshTheEnder vomits up Symmetryc
L2267[17:56:23] <ping> no, there is a fat
attribute
L2268[17:56:40] *
JoshTheEnder eats ping
L2269[17:56:40] <^v> JoshTheEnder gains
40 hp ( 1126 now )
L2270[17:56:44] <ping> :/
L2271[17:56:50] <ping> it should have
triggered methinks
L2272[17:56:52] <JoshTheEnder> Fuk da
police
L2273[17:56:58] <ping> nou
L2274[17:57:55] *
JoshTheEnder stabs SuPeRMiNoR2 several times
L2275[17:58:05] *
ping stabs ping
L2276[17:58:12] <JoshTheEnder> Is v
dead?
L2277[17:58:26] <ping> mabe
L2278[17:58:31] *
JoshTheEnder prods ^v
L2279[17:58:32] ***
[EA]Death is now known as Death||Away
L2280[17:58:39] <ping> nop
L2281[17:58:43] <ping> .ping
JoshTheEnder
L2282[17:58:43] <^v> Ping reply from
JoshTheEnder 0.36s
L2283[17:59:06] <JoshTheEnder> Can it do
ctcps via cmd?
L2284[17:59:33] <JoshTheEnder> ?
Ctcp
L2285[17:59:33] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I
couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L2286[17:59:36] <ping> it just did?
L2287[17:59:43] <JoshTheEnder> -_-
L2288[18:00:03] <JoshTheEnder> I meant
like TIME and stuff
L2289[18:00:23] ***
Death||Away is now known as Death
L2290[18:00:31] <JoshTheEnder> .ctcp time
JoshTheEnder
L2291[18:01:20] <ping> oh, you want
dynamic ctcps
L2292[18:01:43] <JoshTheEnder> Yah
L2293[18:03:33] <ping> so, what should be
the reccomended size of my neural net?
L2294[18:03:52] <JoshTheEnder> Ih
L2295[18:03:56] <ping> (i am processing
the channel logs)
L2296[18:04:05] <JoshTheEnder> I have no
idea what that is
L2297[18:08:17] <ping> meh fck it
L2298[18:10:03] <JoshTheEnder> Suddenly,
androirc is now on a light theme
L2299[18:15:59] <JoshTheEnder> Ok,
rotating the tablet will make the theme change if it has been
L2300[18:16:17] <JoshTheEnder> Also I
have dinner so o/
L2301[18:16:34] <ping> well, im just
going to process it with 1000 nodes
L2302[18:17:00] ***
JoshTheEnder is now known as JoshTheEnder|IsOnHoliday
L2303[18:17:06] <ping> D: bai
JoshTheEnder|IsOnHoliday
L2304[18:17:15] <ping> wait, april 1 =
holiday?
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L2306[18:21:41] ***
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L2307[18:22:22] <Gopher> I find myself
wishing for computer.beep()
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L2309[18:43:45] <Kenny> \o
L2310[18:45:35] <ping> lol Gopher
L2311[18:46:02] <Gopher> computer.beep()
is damned useful. :D
L2312[18:46:12] *
Symmetryc beeps ping
L2313[18:46:32] <ping>
computer.beep(earrape_frequency)
L2314[18:46:51] <Gopher> I mean, when a
user does soemthing wrong in a primitive gui program, you can
figure out how to communicate what they did wrong to them in a way
that doesn't interfere - show a message box, or have some status
area where that sort of thing appears
L2315[18:46:55] <Gopher> or, you can just
computer.beep()
L2316[18:47:04] <Gopher> and leave them
to figure out what they did stupid
L2317[18:47:11] <Gopher> the latter is
much preferable XD
L2318[18:47:32] <Symmetryc> Haha, even
better
L2319[18:47:57] <Symmetryc> beep randomly
occasionally to make them feel like they did something wrong
xD
L2321[18:54:39] <Symmetryc> In the 5.3
thread and say it's the download link for work3
L2322[18:54:42] <Symmetryc> :D
L2323[18:56:32] <ping> i feel like a mad
scientist
L2324[18:56:46] <ping> i am putting the
entire logfile into a neural network
L2325[18:57:53] <ping> methinks 300
neurons is enough to get some commonly used words
L2326[18:58:55] <Symmetryc> Wait, so you
spent a crap load of time to use some poorly made nn lib when you
could make your own in half as much time? :P
L2327[18:59:27] <ping> no, i dont know
how to make a nn lib
L2328[18:59:35] <ping> 80
L2329[18:59:38] <ping> % complete
L2331[18:59:54] <Symmetryc> Look at the
bottom half of the post xD
L2332[19:01:10] <ping> 95%
L2333[19:01:19] <ping> inb4 serialization
error
L2334[19:01:29] <Symmetryc> 0% now?
L2335[19:01:38] <ping> 99.9%
L2336[19:01:46] <Symmetryc> 101%
L2338[19:02:44] <ping> time to see if it
worked :3
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L2342[19:12:10] <Kenny> \o
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L2346[19:27:54] <Gopher> okay, savedlg
example program finished, whole thing wrapped into a function and
made into the start of the gmlDialogs utility library as
gmlDialogs.filePicker
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L2348[19:32:36] <Symmetryc> I'm bored so
let's start a discussion
L2349[19:32:43] ***
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L2350[19:32:48] <Symmetryc> What is more
beneficial when learning to program
L2351[19:32:57] <Symmetryc> Self taught
or CS Degree
L2352[19:33:01] <Symmetryc> ?
L2353[19:33:10] <Gopher> define
"beneficial."
L2354[19:33:40] <Symmetryc> More likely
to make you a better problem solver regarding coding
L2355[19:33:50] <Gopher> a degree can be
beneficial in getting your first programming job, but not with all
companies, and that initial advantage can fade fast.
L2356[19:34:12] <Symmetryc> I'm not
talking about jobs
L2357[19:34:17] <Gopher> There's nothing
wrong going for a degree, but at some (many, sadly) schools it's
possible to get a degree without actually learning that much.
L2358[19:34:29] <Gopher> either way, you
get as much out of it as you put in.
L2359[19:34:44] <Symmetryc> Let's say
you're 100% committed
L2360[19:34:49] <Gopher> The self-taught
people are often more motivated, because it's about intrinsic
rewards for them.
L2361[19:35:17] <Gopher> but also can be
less disciplined, don't always work as well on teams. Depends on
the person, tho.
L2362[19:35:37] <Symmetryc> Solely
through the perspective of problem solving
L2363[19:36:06] <Gopher> honestly, I
don't know it's a big factor in predicting that sort of
thing.
L2364[19:36:11] <Symmetryc> Imo
self-taught
L2365[19:36:36] <Symmetryc> Well,
actually
L2366[19:36:39] <Symmetryc> idk
L2367[19:36:52] <Gopher> considering two
people with the same rough level of ability, the self-taught get
more experience along the way really tackling problems without
pre-existing solutions
L2368[19:37:02] <Gopher> classes are more
about "here's a problem, and these are the established ways of
solving it"
L2369[19:37:02] <Symmetryc> Yeah
L2370[19:37:30] <Symmetryc> But another
thing is that the self taught person is only exposed to problems
which actually get in their way
L2371[19:37:40] <Gopher> of course,
that's a double-edged thing sometimes
L2372[19:37:49] <Symmetryc> Where as the
student will be presented with a multitude of problems
L2373[19:37:51] <Gopher> yeah, that
L2374[19:38:11] <Gopher> and also,
sometimes the self-taugth programmer will spin their gears on
problems that could be trivially solved by applying existing formal
solutions or techniques
L2375[19:38:40] <Symmetryc> Oh yeah
L2376[19:39:14] <Symmetryc> Gopher: Just
wondering, are you self-taught
L2377[19:39:39] <Gopher> I've known and
worked with people at the extreme ends of "holy shit you're
dumb" and "holy shit you make me feel dumb" both
from formally educated and self-taught people
L2378[19:39:44] <Gopher> a little of
both, mostly self-taught
L2379[19:40:11] <Symmetryc> Ah okay
L2380[19:40:20] <Symmetryc> Yeah I'm
self-taught :P
L2381[19:40:33] <Gopher> most people who
program for fun tend to be XD
L2382[19:40:45] <Symmetryc> And more
often than not I'm the one the feels dumb :P
L2383[19:40:50] <Gopher> though
increasingly "self-taught" is a misnomer
L2384[19:41:11] <Gopher> when I was a kid
first learning to program, I could occassionally get a book, in a
few rare cases even downloaded tutorials or example programs from
BBSs
L2385[19:41:25] <Gopher> but for the most
part self-taught meant bashing my head against it in near-total
isolation
L2386[19:41:30] <Gopher> now, there's the
whole internet at your fingertips
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L2388[19:42:09] <Gopher> and also the
growing open-source movement means the self-taught group isn't
necessarily working in isolation even on a given project, many get
involved in collaborative projects online
L2389[19:42:13] <Symmetryc> Well, I did
take APCS, but I didn't actually learn any algorithms/design
principles/techniques, I only learned that "this is how you
make an if statement in Java, this is how you define a class,
etc."
L2390[19:42:27] <Gopher> well, not just
open source, but online version control and source sharing systems
like github
L2391[19:42:58] <Symmetryc> I think HS CS
courses should be more intensive
L2392[19:43:01] <Symmetryc> imho
L2393[19:43:23] <Symmetryc> It would lead
way to a more technologically inclined future for western
nations
L2394[19:43:33] <Gopher> eh, I dunno,
that's not necessarily an area most high schools are equipped to do
more.
L2395[19:43:43] <Gopher> Honestly, if I
could wave a magic wand and ignore logistical issues,
L2396[19:43:57] <Gopher> I'd have high
school end at 10th grade and college start younger :P
L2397[19:44:18] <Symmetryc> haha, for a
sec I read that as 10 yrs old
L2398[19:44:42] <Gopher> spending until
18 in an unfocused general ed curriculum just doesn't make a lot of
sense to me, you cna carry on with the general ed stuff while also
starting to focus into higher-level classes in some areas.
L2399[19:45:09] <Symmetryc> Meh, it seems
scary to me :P
L2400[19:45:33] <Symmetryc> I'd rather it
go up to 12th, otherwise I'd be out of school in two years from now
._.
L2401[19:45:35] <Gopher> it's not, lol.
At all but the most demanding colleges, freshman year classes are
largely a joke.
L2402[19:45:45] <Symmetryc> I'm
definitely not ready for college
L2403[19:46:01] ***
JoshTheEnder|IsOnHoliday is now known as JoshTheEnder
L2404[19:46:03] <Symmetryc> Gopher: I
mean that it's not enough time to prove yourself
L2405[19:46:14] <Symmetryc> Thus making
college admissions more scary
L2406[19:46:28] <Symmetryc> Thus making
HS, the anticipation for college, more scary
L2407[19:46:38] <Gopher> well, like I
said, that's my magic want idea. It would obviously be crazy to
just try to impose it on everyone tomorrow.
L2408[19:46:52] <Gopher> elementary,
middle, and early high school are not geared right for that.
L2409[19:47:07] <Gopher> if it's possible
to get there from here, it'd take a long transition.
L2410[19:48:51] <Symmetryc> Perhaps
L2411[19:51:18] <Symmetryc> Hmmm, do you
feel that people should be exposed to algebra, goemetry, calculus,
etc. earlier on?
L2412[19:51:59] <ping> i think higher
math is stupid if you arent going to be using it
L2413[19:52:33] <Symmetryc> ping: Do you
feel it should at least be offered?
L2414[19:52:40] <ping> definitely
L2415[19:53:07] <Symmetryc> .ping
ping
L2416[19:53:08] <^v> Ping reply from ping
0.37s
L2417[19:53:15] <Symmetryc> lol
L2418[19:53:29] <ping> :P
L2419[19:55:05] ***
progwml6 is now known as progwml6|L
L2420[19:55:28] *
JoshTheEnder stabs ^v
L2421[19:55:36] <JoshTheEnder> Hmm
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L2423[19:55:52] <ping> ^v isnt logged
in
L2424[19:55:56] *
ping stabs JoshTheEnder
L2425[19:55:57] <JoshTheEnder> Ahh
L2426[19:56:07] <ping> also, it might be
bork
L2427[19:56:21] <JoshTheEnder> Its in the
user list
L2428[19:56:51] <ping> noimean rpg
L2429[19:57:01] *
ping stabs JoshTheEnder
L2430[19:57:03] <ping> :/
L2431[19:57:16] <JoshTheEnder> Ahh
L2432[19:57:56] *
JoshTheEnder slaps ping with a trout
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L2434[19:58:06] *
ping eats potato
L2435[19:58:06] <^v> potato makes ping
constipated and loses 6 hp ( 999999993 now )
L2436[19:58:23] <JoshTheEnder> Lol
L2437[19:58:39] *
JoshTheEnder eats ping
L2438[19:58:39] <^v> JoshTheEnder gains
10 fat ( 10 now )
L2439[19:58:46] <JoshTheEnder>
Heheh
L2440[19:58:47] <ping> yeah, you eat too
much
L2441[20:07:34] <ping> there, i derped an
elseif
L2442[20:07:37] *
ping stabs JoshTheEnder
L2443[20:07:37] <^v> ping flails around a
bit and loses 2 hp ( 999999991 now )
L2444[20:07:40] <ping> :<
L2445[20:08:06] *
JoshTheEnder stabs ping
L2446[20:08:06] <^v> ping loses 13 hp (
999999978 now )
L2447[20:09:29] *
JoshTheEnder farts
L2448[20:10:41] <Symmetryc> ping: y u
hax
L2449[20:10:47] *
Symmetryc stabs ping
L2450[20:10:47] <^v> Symmetryc flails
around a bit and loses 6 hp ( 1186 now )
L2451[20:10:52] <Symmetryc> :(
L2452[20:10:58] <ping> fine
L2453[20:11:02] <Symmetryc> does that
mean I have the fat attribute
L2454[20:11:05] <ping> .>
rpg.ping.hp=0
L2455[20:11:05] <^v> ping,
L2456[20:11:09] <ping> er
L2457[20:11:13] <ping> .>
rpg.ping.hp=1000
L2458[20:11:14] <^v> ping,
L2459[20:11:17] <ping> Symmetryc, yes you
do
L2460[20:11:26] *
Symmetryc eats Symmetryc
L2461[20:11:26] <^v> Symmetryc makes
Symmetryc constipated and loses 3 hp ( 1183 now )
L2462[20:11:32] <Symmetryc> lol
L2463[20:11:42] <Symmetryc> How do I
become fit
L2464[20:11:54] *
Symmetryc jogs
L2465[20:11:58] *
JoshTheEnder runs
L2466[20:12:01] <ping> you cant
L2467[20:12:08] <ping> also, you only
have 51 fat
L2468[20:12:20] <ping> i have 47 :P
L2469[20:12:26] <Symmetryc> So you can't
lose fat? What is this? Real life?
L2470[20:12:29] <Symmetryc> jk lol
L2471[20:12:31] <ping> you can
L2472[20:12:35] *
JoshTheEnder eats Symmetryc
L2473[20:12:35] <^v> JoshTheEnder gains
10 fat ( 19 now )
L2474[20:12:46] <ping> for every message
you have 1 in 10 chance to lose fat
L2475[20:12:54] <Symmetryc> To lose 1
fat?
L2476[20:13:02] <ping> yes
L2477[20:13:08] <Symmetryc> ._.
L2478[20:13:16] <ping> JoshTheEnder, eat
more
L2479[20:13:18] *
Symmetryc slaps ping
L2480[20:13:18] <^v> ping Loses 8 hp (
992 now )
L2481[20:13:21] <ping> it gets
funny
L2482[20:13:22] <JoshTheEnder> Hmm, ok
then
L2483[20:13:34] <JoshTheEnder>
Right
L2484[20:13:38] *
Symmetryc eats symmetryc
L2485[20:13:38] <^v> Symmetryc gains 37
hp ( 1220 now )
L2486[20:13:42] <ping> xD
L2487[20:13:55] <JoshTheEnder> I'm off
for the night o/
L2488[20:14:00] <Symmetryc> o/
L2489[20:14:27] <Kenny> \o
L2490[20:14:41] ***
JoshTheEnder is now known as JoshTheEnder|IsOnHoliday
L2491[20:16:42] <Symmetryc> ping: can you
add a height attribute
L2492[20:16:58] <Symmetryc> The more
health you have the taller you are
L2493[20:17:14] <Symmetryc> :D
L2494[20:17:20] <Symmetryc> `
L2495[20:17:44] <Kenny> Symmetryc must be
a midget
L2496[20:18:01] <Symmetryc> Kenny: how
did you know :o
L2497[20:18:30] <Kenny> cause only a
short person with a height complex would worry about beinf
taller
L2498[20:19:40] <Symmetryc> Kenny: im
short
L2499[20:19:49] <Kenny> i figured
L2500[20:20:09] <Kenny> i used to ahve
the same height issue
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L2502[20:20:21] <Kenny> kind of grew out
of it
L2503[20:20:31] <Symmetryc> lol I was
jk
L2504[20:20:38] <Kenny> i'm not
L2505[20:20:49] <Kenny> at 13 i stood
5'2"
L2506[20:20:50] <Symmetryc> perhaps I'm a
bit lower than average, but I'm not short
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L2508[20:21:16] <Kenny> i was about
6-8" shorter than other guys my age
L2509[20:21:18] <Symmetryc> I think I'm
5'6"
L2510[20:21:30] <Kenny> i was very
self-conscious about it
L2511[20:21:52] <Kenny> then i was in an
accident that cost me the hearing in my right ear
L2512[20:22:13] <ping> D:
L2513[20:22:17] <Kenny> and over the next
15 months i went from 5'2" to 6'2"
L2514[20:22:31] <Kenny> in 7 days i lost
62 pounds
L2515[20:22:37] <Kenny> 52*
L2516[20:22:38] <ping> .>
rpg.Symmetric.height=-1
L2517[20:22:39] <^v> ping, lua:1: attempt
to index field 'Symmetric' (a nil value)
L2518[20:22:49] <ping> keep forgetting
the y
L2519[20:22:52] <Symmetryc>
Symmetr_y_c
L2520[20:22:56] <Symmetryc> Yeh
L2521[20:23:06] <Symmetryc> .>
Nope
L2522[20:23:06] <^v> Nope.
L2523[20:23:14] <Symmetryc> .>
Nope.avi
L2524[20:23:14] <^v> Nope.
L2525[20:23:33] <Kenny>
rpg.Symmertyc.height=-1
L2526[20:23:57] <Symmetryc>
rpg.Kenny.height=true
L2527[20:23:57] <ping> Symmer
L2528[20:24:08] <Kenny>
rpg.Symmetyc.height=-1
L2529[20:24:16] <Kenny>
rpg.Symmetryc.height=-1
L2530[20:24:32] <Kenny> i'll get it right
sooner or latert lol
L2531[20:24:38] <ping> latert
L2532[20:24:54] <Kenny> big fingers
little keys
L2533[20:25:12] <Kenny> along with being
totally beat
L2534[20:25:29] <Kenny> this day has
taken a toll on me physically
L2535[20:25:59] <Kenny> why do you think
i haven't been talking for the past few hours
L2536[20:26:13] <ping> because you were
afk
L2537[20:26:29] <Kenny> i over stressed
my right leg today and the pain is bad
L2538[20:27:05] <Kenny> now ikt will be
3-4 days befoe i can get my bike finished
L2539[20:27:09] <Kenny> it*
L2540[20:28:47] <Symmetryc> Kenny: When
did you learn about mc
L2541[20:29:17] <Kenny> not long after it
came out
L2542[20:29:32] <Kenny> played indev for
about 6 months before it went alpha
L2543[20:29:55] <Kenny> just as it went
alpha i bought the game
L2544[20:30:07] <Symmetryc> Kenny: Did
you like to play electronics as a kid
L2545[20:30:33] <Kenny> i have a
certificate in color tv and radio repair
L2546[20:30:51] <Kenny> i used to build
my own stereo systems
L2547[20:31:19] <Kenny> when you grow up
without a lot of money your learn to make the things you want
L2548[20:31:51] <Kenny> i've been messing
with electronics for a little over 40 years
L2549[20:32:06] <Kenny> and i've been
working on cars nearly 45 years
L2550[20:32:21] <Symmetryc> Yeh you have
a lot of experience for sure
L2551[20:32:34] <Kenny> i can do
carpentry, electrical, plumbing and masonry
L2552[20:32:39] <Symmetryc> I have 3
years of experience :D
L2553[20:32:44] <Symmetryc> 2pro
L2554[20:32:45] <Symmetryc> lol
L2555[20:33:03] <Kenny> i've been
building my own computers since 96
L2556[20:33:26] <Kenny> did salvage to
get my first computer
L2557[20:33:55] <Kenny> found old
computers being tossed out by companies and took them and made a
good working one
L2558[20:35:05] <Kenny> same way i've
taken this 3 wheel bicycle and motorized it, along with adding on
headlight, tail lights, brake lights, and turn signals
L2559[20:35:41] <Kenny> total cost for
it, about $350 dolars
L2560[20:35:58] <Kenny> the bike was the
biggest cost (270)
L2561[20:36:18] *
Death slaps ping
L2562[20:36:19] <^v> ping Loses 9 hp (
983 now )
L2563[20:36:22] <Death> :3
L2564[20:36:24] <ping> D:
L2565[20:36:27] <Kenny> most of it i
freecycled from stuff i had on hand or could get from around
town
L2566[20:36:31] *
ping eats Death
L2567[20:36:32] <^v> Death makes ping
constipated and loses 9 hp ( 974 now )
L2568[20:36:35] <ping> D: D:
L2569[20:36:44] <Death> uhm.
L2570[20:36:46] <Death> oops?
L2571[20:39:30] <ping> this is so
strange
L2572[20:39:40] <ping> my neural net is
spitting out bs
L2573[20:40:02] <ping> as in, a ton of
b
L2574[20:40:06] <ping> not bullshit
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L2576[20:48:59] ***
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L2578[21:04:44] <Gopher> aaand
gmlDialogs.messageBox(message[, buttons]) is finished.
L2579[21:05:24]
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L2580[21:05:29] <Gopher> generic message
box, line-wraps message if necessary to 26 wide, adds buttons with
the labels in the table buttons (default
{"cancel","ok"}) then returns the label of the
clicked button.
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L2582[21:13:52] <Gopher> aaand wiki
doc'd.
L2583[21:17:26] <Gopher> I can't shake
the growing sense that I'm wasting a lot of effort wiki
documentation of this library that nobody except kenny and myself
are ever going to actually use XD
L2584[21:17:53] <Gopher> but it's a good
habit to get into, documenting as you go, so I will continue!
L2585[21:18:05] <Michiyo> lol
L2586[21:19:09] <Gopher> ugh. I keep
thinking I should make an install script,
L2587[21:19:24] <Gopher> but there's
really not any clear, single way to do an install script for
libraries like this.
L2588[21:19:55] <Gopher> I keep libraries
in /usr/lib, which is linked from /lib on my primary hard
drive
L2589[21:20:11] <Gopher> but there's no
guarantee any random person's setup will be compatible
L2590[21:20:28] <Michiyo> yeah...
L2591[21:22:12] <Michiyo> Ha.... I just
placed Michiyo, the robot.
L2592[21:22:13] <Gopher> I think that's
kindof a problem, tbh.
L2593[21:23:40] <Gopher> There's
discussion in one of the issues on github about different ways of
handling disks and the OS
L2594[21:23:57] <Gopher> I really think
this sort of thing should be factored into that decision.
L2595[21:24:13] <Michiyo> Yeah..
L2596[21:24:13] <Gopher> I mean, on the
one hand, yeah, we want people to be able to do customizing at a
low level, custom os, the works
L2597[21:24:26] <Gopher> but it'd also be
nice if there was some compatibility in the standard
platform.
L2598[21:24:34] <Michiyo> I
agree...
L2599[21:26:58] <Gopher> hmm. I mean, I
could go with the lowest common denominator, make installers that
just plonk everything in a directory together; require seems to
check the current directory for libraries
L2600[21:27:00] <Gopher> but.. that
defeats the point of a library, if every program has a copy of it
XD
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L2604[21:34:00] <Kenny|Sleeping> \o
L2605[21:34:00]
zsh sets mode: +v on Maxwolf
L2606[21:34:04] <ping> hai
L2607[21:34:10] <Maxwolf> Howdy :3
L2608[21:34:13] <ping> .< for
l1=1,10000 do testnn:train({math.random()},{math.random()})
end
L2609[21:34:13] <^v> ping,
.\luann.lua:46: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'threshold'
(a nil value)
L2610[21:34:29] <ping> .< for
l1=1,10000 do testnn:train({math.random()},{math.random()})
end
L2611[21:34:33] <^v> ping,
L2612[21:35:51] <ping> so, i just
completely fucked a neural net
L2613[21:36:29] <Maxwolf> Does that make
it retarted?
L2614[21:36:59] <ping> i just spammed
both its input and output with random
L2615[21:37:35] <ping> oh, and i did such
a good job
L2616[21:37:42] <ping> it only returns
0
L2617[21:38:27] <ping> hmm
L2618[21:38:28] <ping> or
L2619[21:38:37] <ping> i derped
L2620[21:39:54] <ping> i managed to break
the neural net api
L2621[21:40:10] <Maxwolf> What you trying
to get it to do?
L2622[21:40:18] <ping> work
L2623[21:40:25] <ping> perferably
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L2629[22:29:17] <ping> Clojure uses a
JVM? nothx.
L2630[22:29:31] <Biohazard> u wot
L2631[22:29:42] <Biohazard> clojure best
lisp
L2632[22:31:04] ***
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L2633[22:31:58] <ping> Biohazard,
no.
L2634[22:32:01] <ping> java sux
L2635[22:32:03] <ping> sonothx
L2636[22:32:10] <Biohazard> java !=
jvm
L2637[22:32:14] <Biohazard> java sux yes,
but the jvm aint that bad
L2638[22:32:18] <ping> jvm also sux
L2639[22:32:23] <Biohazard> inb4
.netfag
L2640[22:32:29] <ping> heap stupid
L2641[22:32:34] <ping> hashmap ftw
L2642[22:32:41] <Biohazard> malloc() to
the heap
L2643[22:32:51] <Biohazard> lel c++ has
heap
L2644[22:37:26] <ping> asm
masterrace
L2645[22:37:34] <ping> c++ and c can suck
it
L2646[22:37:42] <ping> it aint got nothin
on debug.com
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(Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8
hours.)
L2648[22:38:56] <Biohazard> ping: haskell
pls
L2649[22:38:58] <Biohazard> best
lang
L2650[22:39:00] <Biohazard> do you even
monad
L2651[22:39:02] <ping> fine
L2652[22:39:06] <Biohazard> liftM lines
getContents
L2653[22:39:06] <Biohazard> pls
L2654[22:39:08] <ping> ill put haskell in
^v
L2655[22:39:16] <ping> just gimme a
sandbox
L2657[22:40:00] <ping> w time
limeit
L2658[22:40:09] <Biohazard> except you
dont want to add haskell
L2659[22:40:15] <Biohazard> unless you
want a 1 gb dependency to ur bot
L2660[22:40:21] <Biohazard> (the ghc
compiler)
L2661[22:40:25] <ping> wat
L2662[22:40:31] <ping> 1 gb?
L2663[22:40:44] <ping> what the fuck kind
of compiler is 1 gb
L2664[22:42:19] <Gopher> haskell. pay
attention!
L2665[22:42:42] <ping> what about
no?
L2666[22:43:02] <ping> gimme a compiler
that isnt massive
L2667[22:43:16] <ping> i dont care if its
slow
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L2672[23:11:03] ***
Biohazard is now known as _
L2673[23:23:03] *
ping stabs _
L2674[23:23:03] <^v> _ loses 19 hp ( 981
now )
L2675[23:30:38] *
Bizzycola stabs ping *9000
L2676[23:31:01] <Bizzycola> I imagine the
response is slow as it takes a long time to stab someone 9000
times
L2677[23:31:14] *
ping stabs Bizzycola
L2678[23:31:14] <^v> Bizzycola loses 25
hp ( 975 now )
L2679[23:39:12] *
Bizzycola stabs ping
L2680[23:39:12] <^v> ping loses 21 hp (
953 now )
L2681[23:39:24] <Bizzycola> Whats my max
damage? :p
L2682[23:39:28] <ping> D:
L2683[23:39:58] <ping> 30 for stabs, 10
for slaps
L2684[23:40:13] *
ping eats Bizzycola
L2685[23:40:13] <^v> ping gains 20 hp (
973 now )
L2686[23:42:49] <ping> i wonder
L2687[23:43:18] <ping> .lua53
math.random(0,-1>>1)
L2688[23:43:19] <^v> ping, lua:1: bad
argument #1 to 'random' (interval is empty)
L2689[23:43:29] <ping> aww
L2690[23:43:39] <ping> no random 64 bit
:<
L2691[23:51:37] *
Bizzycola stabs ping
L2692[23:51:38] <^v> ping loses 8 hp (
965 now )
L2693[23:51:38] <Bizzycola> I see
L2694[23:51:51] <Bizzycola> 8. Well that
was just a perfect attach.. :p
L2695[23:52:15] <Bizzycola> attack
L2696[23:52:26] <ping> .l53
(math.random(0,0xFFFFFFFF)<<32)+math.random(0,0xFFFFFFFF)
L2697[23:52:27] <^v> ping,
23081654885490830
L2698[23:53:36] <ping> oh and btw, i dont
set the randomseed, so lua will alwase make same random
number
L2699[23:58:19] <Bizzycola> shud set it
to timestamp or something :p