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L10[02:09:15] <Wired> asie: You there?
L11[02:09:18] <asie> yes
L12[02:09:35] <Wired> Are you busy? We're trying to get your tape to work on the server :P
L13[02:10:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Does anyone know where I would obtain fibreoptic cables?
L14[02:10:26] <asie> Wired: quite busy, but what's wrong?
L15[02:10:42] <Wired> Just static whenever I turn my head.
L16[02:10:52] <asie> Wired: did you send a correct format audio file?
L17[02:11:35] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Try newegg.
L18[02:11:52] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: They're far from cheap though.
L19[02:12:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Argh, I can't use something expensive
L20[02:12:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Dialup modems it is
L21[02:12:26] <Wired> asie: I hope so, it's converted to that format that's on your page.
L22[02:12:42] <asie> Wired: send me the buildscript
L23[02:12:59] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: I got about 500 feet of coper CAT6 for $90 or so at my local store :P
L24[02:13:36] <ShadowKatStudios> No raw fibre-optic
L25[02:13:39] <ShadowKatStudios> ?
L26[02:13:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Eh, I'll just pull apart some wireless doorbells and make a serial link.
L27[02:14:06] <Wired> It's gonna be hard to find anything fibre optic for cheap.
L28[02:14:25] <Wired> CAT6'll do pretty much everything you want probably though.
L29[02:14:48] <Kodos> asie, link tot he page regarding audio formats plox
L30[02:14:59] <ShadowKatStudios> I actually found some doorbells that have a 4-bit selectable frequency
L31[02:15:28] <ShadowKatStudios> I want to run a connection 2 blocks.
L32[02:16:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Just a serial connection
L33[02:16:11] <ShadowKatStudios> So I think I'll make a transciever out of doorbells
L34[02:16:17] <asie> Kodos: http://mc.shinonome.ch/ -> computronics -> tape reader
L35[02:16:51] <Wired> asie: http://bit.ly/1rgmhHv is what we're doing to write it
L36[02:17:01] <asie> i found the bug
L37[02:17:05] <asie> and i declare myself officially retarded
L38[02:17:12] <asie> i ran getDescriptionPacketTag();, modified the NBT
L39[02:17:19] <asie> then created a packet using getDescriptionPacketTag() as the NBT
L40[02:17:29] <asie> d'oh!
L41[02:17:53] <Wired> so does that mean we have to update? :P
L42[02:18:11] <asie> RedLogic?
L43[02:18:13] <asie> for 1.7.2?
L44[02:18:36] <Wired> Huh?
L45[02:19:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Someone should impliment a 6502.
L46[02:19:32] <asie> Wired: I'm updating RedLogic for 1.7.2
L47[02:19:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Because there are processors architectures now right?
L48[02:19:36] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: Yes
L49[02:20:18] <Wired> So do you know what the problem with the reader is?
L50[02:20:59] <Wired> Alternative format (if you don't want to download) http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4ar61JBh
L51[02:21:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Do computers make sounds now?
L52[02:21:52] <Wired> Yeah, they make all kinds of funny noises.
L53[02:22:37] <ShadowKatStudios> :o they do!
L54[02:22:49] * ShadowKatStudios begins switching computers on and off
L55[02:22:58] <asie> Wired: you're writing it wrong!
L56[02:23:08] <asie> tape:write(x) if you're doing byte by byte
L57[02:23:11] <Wired> Try reading and writing to the disk too!
L58[02:23:25] <asie> tape:write(x) if you're doing arrays
L59[02:23:34] <asie> that's one thing
L60[02:23:42] <asie> secondd, i want to see how you got the cohens fine
L61[02:23:42] <asie> file*
L62[02:24:12] <Wired> My friend's actually the one doing all the work, I'll ask him :P
L63[02:24:50] <Wired> It was a wav file (16bit), then used the tool on the git page
L64[02:24:57] <Wired> wiki page*
L65[02:25:34] <ShadowKatStudios> component.list()() returns the address of my filesystem?
L66[02:26:08] <Wired> for i,v in component.list() do print(i..':'..v) end
L67[02:27:15] <asie> also
L68[02:27:16] <asie> is any of you willing to test chunkloading for 1.7.2?
L69[02:27:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Printer! :D
L70[02:27:20] <asie> i have no idea how to reliably test it, to be honest
L71[02:27:56] <ShadowKatStudios> component.doc?
L72[02:28:06] <Wired> asie: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZvBjXSQk This isn't working either, he says.
L73[02:28:18] <asie> so the file might be corrupt
L74[02:28:23] <asie> send me the cohens file
L75[02:28:47] <Wired> What kind of compression do you want? If any?
L76[02:29:01] <Wired> gz, lzma, xz, zip?
L77[02:29:18] <asie> just zip it up
L78[02:29:21] <asie> i'll look at it
L79[02:31:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Can I get the functions for a component?
L80[02:32:08] <Wired> asie: http://bit.ly/1eAvwgn
L81[02:33:52] <asie> Wired: it is a correct format file
L82[02:34:01] <asie> and it plays back properly in my environment
L83[02:34:41] <Wired> Any idea of what we're doing wrong then?
L84[02:34:44] <asie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7139959/
L85[02:34:45] <asie> try this code
L86[02:34:48] <ShadowKatStudios> component.getPrimary returns functions?
L87[02:35:24] <asie> it seems to be identicla
L88[02:35:27] <asie> but who knows at this point
L89[02:36:31] <asie> also, Wired, there will be a *little bit* of static in the background
L90[02:36:38] <asie> that's a side effect of using a crazy obscure codec made by a friend
L91[02:37:44] <Wired> Lol, it's all good, it seems to mostly be whenever I turn my head though.
L92[02:37:59] <Wired> Have you tried it on servers yet?
L93[02:38:03] <asie> Wired: yes
L94[02:38:47] <Wired> We're trying it now.
L95[02:38:50] <asie> also
L96[02:38:52] <Kodos> Lolwut, I relogged off and onto my SSP world, and all my OC stuff autobroke itself
L97[02:38:57] <asie> lesson to myself: never plug in USB HDDs to $5 hubs
L98[02:39:42] <Wired> What does the a on the screen printing signify?
L99[02:40:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Wired, is this on the normal server?
L100[02:40:17] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: nope
L101[02:40:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, OK
L102[02:40:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Thought I was missing out on some fun but it's fine
L103[02:40:45] <Wired> Lol, you can come on this one if you want
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L105[02:41:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Nah, working on printing
L106[02:42:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Looks like the CC API applies to the OC interface
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L108[02:43:36] <Wired> Oh wow, it's playing!
L109[02:45:02] <ShadowKatStudios> It worked! I have printed using OC!
L110[02:45:14] <ShadowKatStudios> I should hook up some sort of BIOS for this stuff
L111[02:45:24] <Sangar> o/
L112[02:45:35] <Michiyo> SKS, I'm working on a OC Printer heh
L113[02:45:51] <Wired> \o
L114[02:45:58] <ShadowKatStudios> If I had a BIOS, it could have loadable drivers for sorts of printers
L115[02:46:28] <Wired> asie: It played! Thanks!
L116[02:46:38] <Wired> It's incredible!
L117[02:47:44] <ShadowKatStudios> No line wrapping? Well, I guess it's a good thing there's a getSize
L118[02:50:08] <ShadowKatStudios> I want to make a mod that has proper processors- small computers with small amounts of processing power, like a POS terminal or smartmodem, and massively parallel super computers, and everything in-between. Also 6502s
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L120[02:58:57] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios, that sounds fun. and work. but mostly fun! i didn't follow the idea of adding low-level real chips to OC any further when i had to come up with a concept for passing along tables via interrupts :P
L121[02:59:35] <Wired> Emulating the 6502 server side? That screams bad idea.
L122[02:59:45] <ShadowKatStudios> If you go low-level enough, you need no tables as there are no tables.
L123[02:59:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Eloraam managed it Wired
L124[03:01:06] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios: Yeah, it was horribly slow though.
L125[03:01:19] <Wired> You know, to reduce lag.
L126[03:01:28] <Wired> and give a more realistic feel.
L127[03:01:43] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios, of course, you still have that option. i don't, really, without murdering the api and making it unusable for lua :P
L128[03:02:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I'd be happy with a 1Khz computer if it only took one cycle to execute an instruction
L129[03:05:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I should write a file printing program.
L130[03:06:32] <Wired> You know what would be neat? A third type of computer, supercomputer.
L131[03:06:56] <Wired> Not really sure how useful it'd be compared to the other types though..
L132[03:07:15] <Wired> I kind of just want a computer the size of my house ^_^
L133[03:08:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Multiprocessing?
L134[03:09:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Then again, enough code would give you a parallal computer out of a server rack.
L135[03:09:41] <Wired> Can you multithread on OC computers?
L136[03:11:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Idea: Impliment UUCP over wireless network cards
L137[03:13:17] <ShadowKatStudios> So /usr isn't in /df ?
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L139[03:13:24] <ShadowKatStudios> df*
L140[03:13:37] <asie> Wired: How's the Tape Drive?
L141[03:13:42] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: That would be fun
L142[03:13:59] <asie> What I would like to see is contributing a patch to the Lua implementation Sangar uses that virtually stalls the CPU
L143[03:14:05] <asie> so you can control CPU power as well
L144[03:14:17] <asie> that would in addition /greatly/ help server abuse
L145[03:15:14] <asie> Wired: Also, what server?
L146[03:15:16] <ShadowKatStudios> I personally want a 1khz embedable CPU that I can put into a POS terminal, but you know.
L147[03:15:18] <Wired> asie: It's working great! we even got a bit of my friend's voice to play
L148[03:15:20] <Sangar> Wired, in a single computer/server? no. you'll have to use some coroutine magic.
L149[03:15:34] <asie> Wired: Server IP and pack?
L150[03:15:38] <asie> I want to check it out
L151[03:15:48] <Wired> asie: http://www.technicpack.net/modpack/details/wireds-oc-modpack.308412
L152[03:15:52] <Sangar> asie, I'll be looking in to automatically yielding from Lua's 'count' debug hook again, soon.
L153[03:16:02] <Wired> This one's private for now, but you can come check it out.
L154[03:16:06] <asie> Wired: add Immibis' Peripherals for OC too
L155[03:16:10] <Sangar> that would bascially allow me to do that - and it'll avoid having people have to yield manually.
L156[03:16:16] <asie> http://asie.pl/immibis-peripherals-57.0.1a-oc.zip is the link I /THINK/
L157[03:16:17] <Wired> asie: It's on my main server.
L158[03:17:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm gonna come on because why not? And I want to see computronics in action
L159[03:17:15] <asie> yay
L160[03:17:23] <asie> anyway, downloading, at 6% now
L161[03:17:25] <Sangar> brb, breakfast
L162[03:17:31] <Cazzar> I just found a BRILLIANT ASM debugging tool now...
L163[03:17:35] <Wired> We're in ventrilo too, same IP, default vent port
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L165[03:17:44] <ShadowKatStudios> I should eat dinner soon.
L166[03:17:45] <Kenny> \o
L167[03:17:54] <Cazzar> And I have intergrated it in my ASM classes
L168[03:18:00] <asie> Cazzar: Neat!
L169[03:18:09] <asie> I found a brilliant ASM code generation tool
L170[03:18:12] <asie> it's called jitescript
L171[03:18:14] <Cazzar> asie: I'll show you the output
L172[03:18:15] <asie> I have integrated it as part of AsieLib
L173[03:18:18] <ShadowKatStudios> ASM = assembly?
L174[03:18:25] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: ASM as in the Java bytecode manipulation library
L175[03:18:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh :(
L176[03:18:59] <Cazzar> though, the name is in reference to Assembly
L177[03:19:08] <asie> yeah
L178[03:19:29] <Cazzar> im trying to make my bytecode error, and when I WANT it to it doesnt!
L179[03:19:30] <asie> Wired: i'll take a while because i never used technic before
L180[03:19:34] <asie> Cazzar: ooooh, shiny
L181[03:19:35] <asie> output?
L182[03:20:00] <Cazzar> one second...
L183[03:20:01] <Wired> asie: It's not too complicated, you went to add pack and pasted that link, right?
L184[03:20:10] <asie> Wired: yup
L185[03:20:18] * Cazzar just realised I was commenting out arbitary code
L186[03:20:22] <asie> I plan on using either AsieLauncher or MCUpdater for my pack if it ever happens
L187[03:20:30] <Wired> That's pretty much all there is to it, after that all you have to do is play the game.
L188[03:20:31] <asie> though it might now that I fixed the most importnat RedLogic 1.7.2 bug
L189[03:20:32] <Cazzar> he*
L190[03:20:35] <asie> all i need is to port the 3 or so remaining mods
L191[03:21:03] <Cazzar> asie: https://gist.github.com/cazzar/517a78bf40ad47565018
L192[03:21:20] <asie> that's awesome, Cazzar
L193[03:21:28] <asie> what DO you need ASM for, though?
L194[03:21:34] <Cazzar> I wish i learned of that method AGES ago it makes debugging bytecode EASY as hell for it
L195[03:21:42] <Cazzar> its a ASM class
L196[03:21:50] <asie> yes but what are you using it for
L197[03:22:16] <Cazzar> I need to inject a .equals and .hashCode into net/minecraft/client/audio/PositionedSound
L198[03:22:19] <Wired> Java asm makes me sad panda. Gnu Assembly or die!
L199[03:22:26] <Wired> :P
L200[03:22:35] <Cazzar> Wired: this is how we base mod now
L201[03:22:39] <asie> okay, Minecraft's launching
L202[03:22:39] <asie> :D
L203[03:22:56] <ShadowKatStudios> What?
L204[03:23:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Already?
L205[03:23:07] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm still on 1% download
L206[03:23:26] <Cazzar> asie: guess how much of a change is needed for that little bit of informational debug :P
L207[03:24:15] <Cazzar> Also, note it gives you an idea of what the stack is too :P
L208[03:26:17] <ShadowKatStudios> 3%!
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L210[03:45:06] <Tahg> anyone remember that 2048 game that was posted in here a while ago?
L211[03:45:27] <Cazzar> T.T 300 lines of just ASM code...
L212[03:45:40] <Kodos> yes, Tahg
L213[03:48:19] <ShadowKatStudios> 2048k RAM game?
L214[03:49:24] <Michiyo> I've been playing http://2048.mx/ which seems to be Multiplayer.. lol
L215[03:50:49] <asie> Wired: well done, you've got yourself a new player
L216[03:51:02] <Tahg> anyway, https://www.dropbox.com/s/vd40fe17weiml9z/Screenshot%202014-03-23%2005.43.53.png
L217[03:51:10] <Tahg> I've been practicing
L218[03:51:22] <Wired> asie: Admittedly, the server's not all that great, but I'm always up for suggestions.
L219[03:51:22] <Tahg> in case you ever wondered what color a 4096 was
L220[03:51:36] <Tahg> couldn't quite make it to a 8192
L221[03:52:01] <asie> Wired: admittedly, i am willing to help with that
L222[03:52:16] <asie> what's the modpack by the way?
L223[03:52:35] <Wired> Hold on, updating this one for your mod anyway :P gimme a minute
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L225[03:53:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Wired, I'm not gonna be able to come on, it got stuck at 5%
L226[03:54:12] <asie> Wired: because I am very opinionated on mods
L227[03:54:20] <asie> and my main problem was I nowhere saw a pack that has the mods I like
L228[03:54:51] <Wired> asie: Yeah, I think we have too many mods on my server, debating on removing several.
L229[03:55:01] <Wired> The problem is, everyone complains and wants x mod.
L230[03:55:05] <asie> Wired: Show me the pack
L231[03:55:10] <asie> I can help you make a good pack
L232[03:55:15] <asie> :3
L233[03:55:42] <Wired> asie: It's hard to get people to come on and stay with a minimalist pack, I've tried it.
L234[03:55:48] <asie> I know /that/
L235[03:55:54] <asie> if you have a minimalist pack, you need to offer other benefits
L236[03:56:06] <asie> such as facilities for cyber warfare (forcefields, etc)
L237[03:56:14] <Wired> http://www.technicpack.net/modpack/details/computercraft-and-peripherals.89198
L238[03:56:25] <Wired> I don't really have a modlist, you'll have to download it.
L239[03:56:39] <asie> downloading.
L240[03:57:39] <Wired> asie: Honestly not really happy with it as-is
L241[03:57:57] <asie> Wired: Don't worry, I'll help you out
L242[03:58:13] <asie> i have quit ea lot of experience running servers with minimalist modpacks
L243[03:58:25] <Wired> asie: Lol, well, uploading the modpack on the private server with your update.
L244[03:58:28] <asie> 14 months of on-and-off running an MLP-themed modded server, for instance
L245[03:58:31] <asie> and a few others
L246[03:59:20] <asie> Wired: okay, so, admittedly, the modpack is a bit crap
L247[03:59:31] <Wired> asie: agreed
L248[03:59:38] <asie> all you seem to have is TE, TC, PRed and AE
L249[03:59:48] <asie> it should be a tad more varied
L250[03:59:59] <asie> if you want to look at something, here's a modpack I was working on
L251[04:00:03] <asie> consisting entirely of FOSS mods
L252[04:00:04] <asie> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuqVyNf3BeXLdHNXYkxQTTRITEoyc0kwUC1pY3lDWkE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
L253[04:00:09] <asie> main thing: you have severe lacks in the decoration deparmtnet
L254[04:00:18] <asie> and by severe lacks, I mean /severe/ lacks
L255[04:00:26] <asie> Chisel and Carpenter's Blocks are pretty much a must for decoration nowadays
L256[04:00:33] <Wired> asie: We have a couple options, either move the server over to the private one, or drop everyone on their asses and just completely switch around the pack :P
L257[04:00:40] <asie> Wired: Or...
L258[04:00:45] <asie> I have a spare server VPS I'm not using
L259[04:00:52] <asie> Let the old server decay on its own by completely ignoring it
L260[04:00:54] <asie> and work on a new server
L261[04:00:56] <asie> that's what I tended to do
L262[04:01:34] <Wired> asie: I'm not really a big fan of off-site hosting, makes things more of a pain. This thing's running 24/7.
L263[04:01:45] <asie> That's fine
L264[04:01:47] <Wired> Can we let the 30165 (main) one die off and move to the new one.
L265[04:01:50] <asie> anyway, can you hop on my Mumble?
L266[04:01:55] <asie> asie.pl
L267[04:02:00] <Wired> We have a vent, but I guess I can.
L268[04:02:06] <asie> i don't have ventrilo set up
L269[04:02:08] <asie> i could set it up
L270[04:02:17] <asie> up to you really
L271[04:02:32] <Wired> Columna's on the Vent.
L272[04:02:41] <asie> what's the address?
L273[04:02:44] <asie> i'll set up ventrilo real quick
L274[04:02:57] <Wired> same as the server, but on default vent port
L275[04:03:05] <asie> okay
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L277[04:03:09] <asie> what's the server on again? :P
L278[04:03:27] <asie> inb4 "Same as ventrilo, but on this and tat port"
L279[04:03:51] <Wired> eh, hold on
L280[04:03:56] <asie> okay i'll check myself
L281[04:04:13] <asie> got it
L282[04:04:28] <Wired> Oh, the private server's updated with your mod.
L283[04:05:18] <asie> Wired: apparently the OS X version of Ventrilo only supports Speex
L284[04:05:19] <asie> and not GSM
L285[04:05:21] <asie> what. the.
L286[04:05:40] <asie> yep
L287[04:05:44] <asie> the GSM codec is only supported on Windows
L288[04:05:51] <asie> so we /have/ to go Mumble
L289[04:05:55] <Michiyo> o_O
L290[04:05:58] <Michiyo> ♥ TS3 :P
L291[04:06:04] <asie> TS3 works here too
L292[04:06:07] <asie> but Mumble is good
L293[04:06:17] <Wired> not a big fan of TS3, I'll take mumble.
L294[04:06:20] <asie> Wired: waiting on Mumble, get columna there if you could
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L296[04:06:30] <Wired> What's the ip?
L297[04:06:30] <asie> i just can't get Ventrilo working without fiddling with my Windows XP virtual machine
L298[04:06:33] <asie> Wired: asie.pl
L299[04:06:34] <asie> default port
L300[04:08:01] <Wired> What is the default port? It doesn't have it on the phone version.
L301[04:08:25] <Wired> Scratch that, it does, and I'm on.
L302[04:08:28] <Wired> But I don't see you.
L303[04:08:37] <asie> wait
L304[04:08:40] <asie> you're using Mumble on a phone
L305[04:08:41] <asie> that's buggy
L306[04:08:48] <asie> get back to Ventrilo, I remembered I have Ventrilo on my iPad
L307[04:08:52] <asie> paid $5 for the damn thing but it works at least
L308[04:09:06] <asie> sorry for the issues
L309[04:09:52] <Wired> I hope you didn't pay for that now o_o
L310[04:10:01] <asie> Wired: half a year ago
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L317[04:39:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Wireless keyboards must be the greatest invention ever. :D
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L319[04:41:33] <ShadowKatStudios> I just with I could see the screen from 2 metres away
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L322[04:56:12] <ShadowKatStudios> D: Minecraft crashed before it loaded the world D:
L323[04:57:13] * ShadowKatStudios wonders about using OpenPeripheral robots for fighting eachother
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L325[04:58:40] <asie> hi
L326[05:01:03] <ShadowKatStudios> So computers make a lot of weird noises now?
L327[05:01:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Like bloopy noises?
L328[05:01:53] <Wired> Bloopy noises? Not much, the disks make funny scratchy noises.
L329[05:02:04] <asie> yeah
L330[05:02:07] <asie> the floppy disk ones are fun
L331[05:02:16] <asie> ...I know what I need to add
L332[05:02:19] <asie> a *gasp* PC Speaker!
L333[05:02:20] <ShadowKatStudios> HDDs?
L334[05:02:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Do they make noises?
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L336[05:03:27] <ShadowKatStudios> :D Those FDD noises :D
L337[05:05:06] <asie> Sangar: http://maven.cil.li/li/cil/oc/OpenComputers/MC1.7.2-1.2.3.91/OpenComputers-MC1.7.2-1.2.3.91-deobf.jar
L338[05:05:08] <asie> you forgot something
L339[05:05:20] <asie> 92 does the same
L340[05:05:35] * ShadowKatStudios writes a script to make the FDD constantly make noises
L341[05:05:39] <Sangar> hm?
L342[05:06:16] <asie> Sangar: 404
L343[05:06:19] <asie> for deobf JARs
L344[05:06:32] <Sangar> oh. wow. that's... odd.
L345[05:06:39] <Sangar> i'll look into it. thanks.
L346[05:08:03] <ShadowKatStudios> while true do filesystem.list("/mnt/d62") end
L347[05:08:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Floppy drive noise maker :D
L348[05:08:38] <Sangar> haha :D
L349[05:09:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Morte soothing than the sound of rain... Mmmh, that's probably bad.
L350[05:09:58] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: I recorded that sound from my very own Amiga 600
L351[05:10:03] <asie> it has one of the best floppy drive noises in the world
L352[05:10:13] <ShadowKatStudios> It's amazing :D
L353[05:10:20] <ShadowKatStudios> What size floppy?
L354[05:11:44] <asie> 3.5"
L355[05:11:49] <asie> but using a special Amiga format
L356[05:11:51] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm working on my own Z80-based system, and I'm considering addinf a floppy drive on top of serial EEPROM for mass storage
L357[05:11:53] <asie> which explains the different kind of noise
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L359[05:15:29] <Wired> asie: Keep me posted on your server, I'd really like to see how it turns out.
L360[05:15:42] <asie> Wired: I still need to decide on how exactly I want to run it
L361[05:15:48] <asie> and how to recompensate for the obvious lack of mods because 1.7
L362[05:15:58] <Sangar> ah, asie: didn't realize that was maven. the deobf one is the default in there now.
L363[05:16:29] <Sangar> i.e. without suffix
L364[05:16:33] <asie> thanks
L365[05:18:04] <asie> anyway, i'm almost done porting Computronics to 1.7.2
L366[05:18:06] <asie> finally
L367[05:18:15] <asie> after that I will start work on integrating an AE2 API to Computronics
L368[05:19:42] <Sangar> oh ok. LordJoda was thinking of putting some AE2 support into OpenComponents. if he ever finds the time :P
L369[05:19:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay, I now have a playlist of the floppy drive noises. I know how I'm getting to sleep tonight. Own city, you're fired
L370[05:19:46] <Sangar> afk for a bit
L371[05:19:55] <ShadowKatStudios> owl*
L372[05:20:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Random clicky noises while computers are running?
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L374[05:22:06] <ShadowKatStudios> :( I still can't control OpenPeripherals mechs with OC
L375[05:25:20] <ShadowKatStudios> HDD noises are boring, can I record the interesting noises my XP machine makes while starting up?
L376[05:33:25] <asie> working on Sorters
L377[05:33:32] <asie> a reimplementation of Sortrons pretty much
L378[05:35:07] <JoshTheEnder> o/ all
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L381[05:44:30] <Sangar> \o
L382[05:44:40] <JoshTheEnder> o/
L383[05:44:57] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios, regarding the sounds, i had found some interesting boot sounds all right, but minecrafts sound mixing is just terrible.
L384[05:45:05] <Sangar> it's no fun making transitions and such
L385[05:45:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll see how ti sounds, will the mod freak if I replace a sound?
L386[05:45:56] <Kodos> Hey Sangar, I had an interesting thing happen earlier, not sure if you've had it reported before
L387[05:46:07] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios, nah, should be fine.
L388[05:46:32] <Kodos> I'm still on build 262 of the dev, but I was relogging to fix something unrelated, and when I came back, all my OC stuff inworld just broke
L389[05:46:43] <Kodos> As in, as I logged back on
L390[05:47:14] <Sangar> Kodos, broke how?
L391[05:47:22] <Kodos> As if I left clicked in creative mode
L392[05:47:32] <Kodos> But ALL of it broke simultaneous
L393[05:47:33] <Kodos> ly
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L395[05:47:37] <Sangar> o.O
L396[05:47:56] <Kodos> I tried duplicating it for an hour
L397[05:48:00] <Kodos> Couldn't replicate the problem
L398[05:48:06] <ShadowKatStudios_> Argh, my connection is worse than usual
L399[05:48:08] <Sangar> i'm not aware of anything in oc being capable of causing that
L400[05:48:12] <Kodos> Nor am I
L401[05:48:17] <Kodos> But only OC blocks was affected
L402[05:48:24] <Sangar> and no, haven't heard that before :P
L403[05:48:25] <Sangar> huh
L404[05:48:44] <Kodos> I'm running MFFS and a bunch of other UE stuff. I'm hoping it isn't something weird Calc did
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L407[05:49:57] <Sangar> no idea. so basically you came in, saw the blocks and then they went poof?
L408[05:50:17] <Kodos> I didn't even have time to see them, they broke as I was loading in
L409[05:50:21] <Kodos> All their contents dropped
L410[05:50:27] <Kodos> So it was like they were being removed in creative
L411[05:50:29] <Sangar> o.O
L412[05:50:35] <JoshTheEnder> "Oh crap he's back, EVERYONE SPLIT" *break*
L413[05:50:38] <Kodos> ^
L414[05:50:39] <Kodos> This
L415[05:50:59] <Sangar> maybe they went past their expiration date :P
L416[05:51:07] <Kodos> Lol
L417[05:51:17] <Kodos> If OC gets computers that expire, I'll go back to CC =P
L418[05:51:27] <Sangar> honestly, no idea. if they dropped their contents that means they loaded correctly, so it's no id mismatch thing.
L419[05:51:33] <Sangar> haha
L420[05:51:44] <Kodos> I still stand by my creative tier computer case though
L421[05:52:10] <Sangar> ah right, there was that. open an issue. really. i'll forget again otherwise.
L422[05:52:22] <Kodos> Okay, on the Mighty Pirates git?
L423[05:52:35] <Sangar> yeah, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues
L424[05:52:53] <Kodos> What should I prefix the title with
L425[05:52:58] <Kodos> [REQUEST]?
L426[05:53:00] <Sangar> don't
L427[05:53:03] <Sangar> i'll tag it
L428[05:53:04] <Kodos> Okay
L429[05:53:57] <JoshTheEnder> [AWESOME FEATURE THAT SHOULD BE IMPLIMENTED ASAP]
L430[05:54:16] <Sangar> IMPLIMENTED
L431[05:54:59] <Kodos> Implemented.
L432[05:55:17] <Kodos> Issue opened
L433[05:58:31] <Sangar> haha. 'need creative case because ocd'. nice.
L434[05:58:49] <Kodos> Points for honesty?
L435[05:59:00] <Sangar> given :D
L436[05:59:31] <Kodos> \o/
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L439[06:04:25] <ShadowKatStudios> ?y keyboqrd is ,essing zith ,e so i,,q reboot: Iùll be bqck:
L440[06:04:25] <SirBotOfEnder> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
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L442[06:05:47] <JoshTheEnder> lol
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L444[06:08:47] <Kodos> I need to find a new person to do my skin, my other guy decided to bail on me
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L448[06:11:56] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm baack
L449[06:12:04] <ShadowKatStudios> The keyboard was messing with me.
L450[06:12:13] <Sangar> so what did you spill into it? :P
L451[06:12:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Nothing! I swear! I think I activated another layout though
L452[06:13:07] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
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L454[06:14:57] <Cazzar> this just in, the new Minecraft sound wrappers are just a PITA
L455[06:16:50] <Sangar> i hope you don't expect anyone to be surprised by that :P
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L457[06:17:01] <Din> HAIO
L458[06:17:05] <Kodos> Bleh, converting this into a skin is going to be a PITA
L459[06:17:13] <Sangar> ohai
L460[06:17:22] <Din> How's everyone doing?
L461[06:18:06] <Cazzar> Sangar, I don't, I just spent an entire day trying to work with it and it is fucked.
L462[06:18:25] <Sangar> Cazzar, yeah, I know that feeling.
L463[06:18:52] <Sangar> Din, fine. I guess. looking for bugs. the usual.
L464[06:19:09] <Din> ahh, okay
L465[06:19:50] <Din> Why doesn't english have a word for a female friend
L466[06:19:52] <Din> It's annoying
L467[06:20:23] <Cazzar> if the sound manager mojang have now is their API version, I want to shoot someone.
L468[06:21:09] <asie> Sangar: what is your recommended way of depending on other mods' APIs?
L469[06:21:15] <asie> i heard packing the APIs into the JAR is not ideal
L470[06:21:23] <Cazzar> din, depending on context girlfriend can work :P
L471[06:21:46] <Sangar> asie, if possibly avoid packing apis, yeah, since when the api changes that easily leads to crashes (even if just a new method was added)
L472[06:21:54] <asie> yeah
L473[06:22:06] <Din> Cazzar, that's the issue
L474[06:22:07] <Cazzar> Asie, @Optional.Interface
L475[06:22:10] <asie> Cazzar: not that
L476[06:22:14] <asie> instanceof checks and various handling code
L477[06:22:18] <Sangar> to work around crashes if the mod isn't there, put stuff into checked blocks with Loader.isModLoaded e.g.
L478[06:22:20] <asie> i'm trying to make the Sorter's BC API dependency optional
L479[06:22:25] <Din> I hate having to specify FEMALE friend.
L480[06:22:29] <asie> Din: so don't!
L481[06:22:50] <Cazzar> also friend is gender nuteral
L482[06:22:57] <Sangar> and yes, optional.interface/method.
L483[06:23:08] <Din> Cazzar, that's the issue .
L484[06:23:27] <Din> It's annoying since we have a word for it in bosnian
L485[06:23:34] <Cazzar> I'm lost now.
L486[06:23:39] <Din> Male - prijatelj ; female - prijateljica
L487[06:23:43] <Din> English: Friend
L488[06:23:49] <asie> some more docs on how that works?
L489[06:24:03] <asie> Din: English is built to be a lot more gender-independent than the languages around here
L490[06:24:07] <Sangar> optional?
L491[06:24:10] <asie> yeah
L492[06:24:11] <Kodos> My brother has a female friend, he calls her his fag hag.
L493[06:24:21] <Din> Haha ^^
L494[06:24:31] <Din> I'll call my friend fag hag.
L495[06:24:34] <Sangar> well, what the javadoc says, basically. if the mod with the specified mod id isn't installed, the interface gets removed with a class transformer.
L496[06:24:36] <Din> I'll probably die tho
L497[06:24:39] <Sangar> same for methods.
L498[06:24:44] <Cazzar> Sangar, is there a way to do optional annotations? :P
L499[06:24:56] <asie> right
L500[06:25:06] <Sangar> Cazzar, i don't think so, that's why SimpleComponent is an interface.
L501[06:25:37] <asie> Sangar: does it get removed or does the whole method get removed
L502[06:25:42] <asie> for .Metho
L503[06:25:43] <asie> d
L504[06:25:54] <Sangar> for optional.method the annotated method gets removed.
L505[06:26:06] <Sangar> for optional.interface just the interface. the methods it defines stay.
L506[06:26:06] <Cazzar> English can be a weird but good language
L507[06:26:13] <asie> okay, that admittedly sucks, a better solution is to write proxy classes
L508[06:26:18] <Cazzar> Coming from a guy that only knows english
L509[06:26:22] <asie> like IntegrationBuildCraft_NotPresent and IntegrationBuildCraft
L510[06:26:23] <asie> or something
L511[06:26:54] <Sangar> i dunno, i prefer it over having multiple tile entity classes
L512[06:27:20] <asie> I guess
L513[06:27:20] <Sangar> also, as long as the methods don't take any "specific" parameters it's no problem if they stay
L514[06:27:41] <Sangar> i.e. nothing from a mods api
L515[06:28:09] <Sangar> i still annotate all methods because ocd, but it wouldn't be necessary :P
L516[06:29:09] <Sangar> what's a little annoying is that the optional annotations don't support requiring a specific version
L517[06:29:38] <Sangar> so if you need that, at that point you might just handle such things in your own class transformer
L518[06:30:23] <Cazzar> im still happy of my little ASM descovery today
L519[06:30:44] <Cazzar> I can write as much ASM as I want and if it is fucked up, my class transformer will warn me
L520[06:30:52] <Sangar> to be on the safe side, mine looks at all classes in oc and rips out all interfaces / methods with types in its signature that the classloader doesn't know. that's mostly to avoid scala's synthetic classes screwing me over, tho :P
L521[06:31:14] <Sangar> Cazzar, that sounds nice. what lib is that?
L522[06:31:24] <Cazzar> its in ASM itself
L523[06:31:30] <Cazzar> let me get you an example
L524[06:32:20] <Cazzar> Sangar: https://gist.github.com/cazzar/517a78bf40ad47565018
L525[06:32:44] <Sangar> woah
L526[06:32:51] <Cazzar> its a 1 liner too :P
L527[06:33:08] <Cazzar> I include it in ALL my asm classes by default now
L528[06:34:27] <Sangar> well well. i'm happy i can do all i need to do with template classes :P
L529[06:34:59] <Cazzar> I write the bytecode by hand after generating it with the ASM Bytecode Outline
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L531[06:35:46] <asie> okay, added BC wrench handling to AsieLib
L532[06:35:53] <asie> AsieLibMod.integration.isWrench() and wrench()
L533[06:36:14] <Cazzar> Sangar: CheckClassAdapter.verify(new ClassReader(writer.toByteArray()), false, new PrintWriter(System.err));
L534[06:36:22] <Cazzar> that's all it is
L535[06:36:38] <Sangar> that's nice.
L536[06:37:31] <Cazzar> if you use true instead of false, it prints all the bytecode
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L538[06:37:58] <Sangar> i'll save that somewhere in case i'll ever need it :>
L539[06:38:46] <Cazzar> I just use my ASM class and if it is fucked up in code, it will tell me
L540[06:38:47] <Cazzar> then crash
L541[06:40:28] <Sangar> a propos. i didn't manage to crash oc in my testing, so i think i'll release 1.2.3 now. waiting for someone to report a bug one minute after it's out :P
L542[06:41:35] <Cazzar> as you always get
L543[06:43:49] <Din> Is bitdefender good?
L544[06:43:57] <Din> it's free right now ^^
L545[06:45:03] <Cazzar> O_O
L546[06:45:12] <Cazzar> its considered fairly good usually
L547[06:46:16] <Cazzar> also, where do you see it as free
L548[06:50:38] <Din> http://www.bitdefender.com/media/html/softpedia/
L549[06:51:49] <Cazzar> Eh, only IS
L550[06:53:31] <Din> ya
L551[06:58:52] <asie> woo!
L552[06:58:59] <asie> i finished the Manual Sorter mode
L553[06:59:04] <asie> which is you can read the connected inventory's stack data
L554[06:59:09] <asie> and ask for it to be pulled out via a pipe
L555[06:59:30] <asie> the Automatic Sorter mode will let you set a type of item to match and if that item is sent to it via a pipe it will automagically send it through
L556[06:59:46] <asie> a pipe, a hopper or a inventory likely
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L559[07:12:03] *** Sangar changes topic to 'Thread: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2201440-opencomputers-v123/ | Forums: http://oc.cil.li/ | Latest version: 1.2.3 for MC1.6.4 and MC1.7.2 | Dev Builds: http://ci.cil.li/'
L560[07:26:40] <Michiyo> OMG BUG REPORT! I keep getting spammed that 1.2.3 is available!
L561[07:26:41] <Michiyo> :P
L562[07:27:53] <Sangar> oh, that actually works? :X
L563[07:28:05] <Michiyo> lmao
L564[07:28:05] <Michiyo> yes
L565[07:28:21] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/7GhRI.png
L566[07:28:37] <Sangar> nice.
L567[07:28:58] <Bizzycola> Oh the spam, it's everywhere!
L568[07:29:02] <Sangar> well, i found an actual... bug. sort of. more of an incompatibility with RiM. *sigh*
L569[07:29:02] <Bizzycola> It's like a whole line! :p
L570[07:29:16] <Michiyo> Sangar, oh?
L571[07:29:25] <Michiyo> I'm finding all kinds of issues with RIM currently :/
L572[07:29:38] <Sangar> yeah. with the new save system, if the computer gets moved across a chunk border it won't restore its state -.-
L573[07:30:00] <Bizzycola> moving computers with RiM
L574[07:30:02] <Bizzycola> sounds fun!
L575[07:30:05] <Michiyo> Like the IllegalMonitorStateException when moving stuff with CC after OC has interacted with anything RiM related.
L576[07:30:09] <Bizzycola> ooh I have a 3.4 second ping :D
L577[07:30:25] <Sangar> Michiyo, that sounds fun indeed.
L578[07:30:46] <Michiyo> like... I can break the computer, the controller, the CC computer, remove all cables, place it all back.. and it still gives said error.. the move WORKS
L579[07:30:49] <Michiyo> but error.. lol
L580[07:31:09] <Sangar> o.O
L581[07:38:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Night guys o/
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L583[07:50:16] <Cazzar> Hehe, my latest commit message: line 2: "Because fuck minecraft!"
L584[07:52:57] <Michiyo> That would fit roughly 80% of my latest commits perfectlu
L585[07:57:30] <Kodos> I <3 you guys
L586[08:03:49] <Cazzar> https://github.com/cazzar/CazzarCoreLib/commit/4ac3008d4988e5f76fa74f7825d8d9ca93c7823d is said commit
L587[08:21:38] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, where is the scala file for the screen component? I can't find it ;_;
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L589[08:23:50] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty, it's directly in the tile entity
L590[08:23:57] <SpiritedDusty> oh
L591[08:26:04] <SpiritedDusty> what is the default state of a screen when you place it? on, off?
L592[08:26:17] <Sangar> on
L593[08:26:35] <Sangar> i'll away for a few hours, be back later this evening.
L594[08:26:48] <SpiritedDusty> k cya
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L600[08:44:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Guys, as far as the internet goes, do you think 1AM is off-peak?
L601[08:45:05] <tgame14> there is no off-peak
L602[08:45:10] <tgame14> there is just off-peak in your country
L603[08:45:17] <iLLHunter> ^
L604[08:45:18] <Michiyo> timezone*
L605[08:45:20] <Michiyo> :P
L606[08:45:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, th'at's what I mean
L607[08:46:07] <Michiyo> 1 AM eastern, is 10PM Pacific, which is very much peak heh
L608[08:46:46] <ShadowKatStudios> All the normal people are offline, everywhere except McDonalds is closed, I think I might be able to download something
L609[08:46:55] <Michiyo> heh
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L611[08:47:51] <ShadowKatStudios> And I'm prepared if I fall asleep- I'm laying on the couch with a wireless keyboard and mouse.
L612[08:48:18] <ShadowKatStudios> My plan is perfect!
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L614[08:48:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Muahahahahaha
L615[08:55:23] <ShadowKatStudios> So I had a great idea: I could use computronics tapes to store data I would later forward in a delay-tolerant mesh network
L616[09:06:22] <asie> so i finished the MANUAL mode of the Sortron clone
L617[09:06:33] <asie> and I just realized that it accidentally picked up the computer case as the inventory it's supposed to sort
L618[09:06:54] <asie> i need to add a detection to stop OC entities from being detected
L619[09:11:18] <ShadowKatStudios> :D It's like the cassette deck in my room
L620[09:11:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Except this doesn't have a cool analog dial for audio i/o
L621[09:14:30] <asie> hmm
L622[09:14:32] <asie> analog dials?
L623[09:14:46] <asie> i am considering rewriting tape drives to use a network-based system one day
L624[09:14:52] <asie> Audio Cables, Signal Manipulators and Speakers and whatnot
L625[09:14:58] <asie> even audio generators
L626[09:15:09] <asie> with the ability to mux, everything done via DFPWM to save processing power
L627[09:16:22] <iLLHunter> it looks like 'left' and 'right' are reveresed when using rs signal
L628[09:16:37] <iLLHunter> in the vid
L629[09:17:43] <Michiyo> It's left and right from the computers perspective.
L630[09:19:46] <iLLHunter> yeah backwards, just wanted to make sure that was the case / intentional
L631[09:20:05] <ShadowKatStudios> component.tape_drive.write({10,1,1,10}); component.tape_drive.read(10) gives me a bunch of 0s?
L632[09:20:34] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: you need to rewind
L633[09:20:42] <asie> you write and read sequentially
L634[09:20:46] <asie> and (10) is not a position but an amount
L635[09:23:20] <ShadowKatStudios> If I seek the negative length of the tape I get position 0 right?
L636[09:23:31] <asie> yes
L637[09:24:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool, I can re-zero once I finish.
L638[09:26:23] <ShadowKatStudios> I wish we could access individual RAM locations in the computer from Lua- core dump anyone?
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L640[09:28:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Man, those FDD noises :D
L641[09:40:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Basic tapedrive reading and writing
L642[09:41:06] <ShadowKatStudios> I think one of those 8MiB tapes will make a very nice netwoek buffer
L643[09:44:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Time to make a tape backup system
L644[09:47:35] <ShadowKatStudios> asie: Would writing 731 bytes to a tape take more than 20 seconds?
L645[09:47:46] <asie> writing is instantenous
L646[09:47:48] <asie> at least for now
L647[09:47:53] <asie> also, no, 4096 bytes are one second so
L648[09:47:59] <asie> writing definitely won't be slower than playback
L649[09:48:06] <asie> or reading
L650[09:49:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Odd, anything tape-drive related makes the computer hang
L651[09:49:48] <asie> what?
L652[09:49:55] <asie> for how long
L653[09:50:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, it's just my method that's slow, never mind
L654[09:51:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Reading 731 characters using an inefficient loop takes time
L655[09:51:35] <asie> yeah
L656[09:52:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Now, leave it for 10 minutes while it backs up my program...
L657[09:54:05] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: try sending in whole byte arrays
L658[09:54:23] <ShadowKatStudios> This is just a proof of concept atm
L659[09:54:35] <ShadowKatStudios> It works, but it's really slow
L660[09:54:38] <asie> yes
L661[09:54:41] <asie> each read() call takes a tick
L662[09:54:43] <asie> so send byte arrays
L663[09:54:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Oooh, it finished!
L664[09:56:11] <ShadowKatStudios> If there are 20tps, that's 36.55 seconds to save/load 731 bytes.
L665[09:57:10] <asie> yes
L666[09:57:21] <asie> that will be changed later once read calls are properly balacned
L667[09:57:40] <asie> also, you can actually write audio live
L668[09:57:52] <asie> here's the deal: run play(), sleep for exactly 0.05 seconds (1 tick)
L669[09:58:01] <asie> write 1024 bytes (1/4th of a second, seek(-1024)
L670[09:58:04] <asie> sleep for 0.25 seconds, repeat
L671[09:58:16] <asie> that abuses the fact the tape is read 4 times a second and the game ticks 20 times
L672[09:58:46] <ShadowKatStudios> :o Network audio streaming?
L673[09:58:51] <Gopher> reboot
L674[09:58:54] <Gopher> ...derp
L675[09:59:04] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: possible!
L676[09:59:07] <ShadowKatStudios> :o
L677[09:59:11] <asie> or even streaming DFPWM data over the internet
L678[09:59:26] <asie> essentially you'd have to continually seek(-1024) FIRST then write 1024 bytes
L679[09:59:32] <ShadowKatStudios> You could download music with a http card
L680[09:59:32] <asie> then you can actually stream audio live
L681[09:59:37] <asie> or you could run a radio station
L682[09:59:43] <asie> by streaming DFPWM data over TCP
L683[09:59:46] <asie> i mean, it's only 4KB/second
L684[09:59:48] <asie> it's doable
L685[10:00:19] <ShadowKatStudios> I wonder if I could get the OC network running at 4KB/s
L686[10:00:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Just send packets of 4k
L687[10:01:01] <asie> or packets of 1k every 1/4 seconds
L688[10:01:22] <ShadowKatStudios> 4k gives you more time for the message to arrive if you use repeaters
L689[10:01:36] <asie> not really as the lag is constant anyway
L690[10:01:42] <asie> in addition, combine that and HTTP
L691[10:01:46] <asie> and you can create ingame radiostations
L692[10:01:51] <asie> that's how versalite the tape drives are
L693[10:02:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Everything between data and audio streaming
L694[10:02:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm gonna use tapes as a program distribution method
L695[10:02:56] <ShadowKatStudios> 'Extract at own risk'
L696[10:03:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Also as a buffer for store-forward nodes
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L698[10:13:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Debug messages: Cool for the first line, horrible afterwards
L699[10:13:55] <ShadowKatStudios> This scrolling is killing me.
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L701[10:16:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay, now reading from tape.
L702[10:19:10] <ShadowKatStudios> It worked!
L703[10:20:59] <ShadowKatStudios> asie: http://pastebin.com/HNz2Ehdt It worked! :D
L704[10:22:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Maximum size for packets over a network is 8k...
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L706[10:23:12] <SpiritedDusty> compression!
L707[10:23:36] <ShadowKatStudios> That'd give me 2 seconds of audio data
L708[10:24:09] <SpiritedDusty> compress your audio! :P
L709[10:24:30] <SpiritedDusty> you might squeeze out a few more seconds
L710[10:24:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Got any pure-lua compression programs I could use and take less than 2 seconds to decompress?
L711[10:25:23] <Gopher> there's a compression lib on the openprograms repo, but no idea if it's fast enough XD
L712[10:25:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm actually more woried about my routing protocol, the bang path alone could exceed 8k on a long trip...
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L714[10:26:30] <asie> http://gfycat.com/CelebratedPlayfulGardensnake
L715[10:26:33] <asie> Sorters *kind of* work
L716[10:27:25] <asie> SpiritedDusty: GZIP and XZ give a ~8% saving
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L718[10:27:32] <asie> and it's already used for storing the tapes on the real-life HDD
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L720[10:28:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, kind-of is better than not at all
L721[10:28:35] <SpiritedDusty> ShadowKatStudios, https://github.com/OpenPrograms/LibCompress
L722[10:29:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Looks useful, but I'd have tp test speed
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L724[10:32:37] <ShadowKatStudios_> 32-minute tape is 8KB?
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L727[10:34:10] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: one second is 4096Kb
L728[10:34:14] <asie> err
L729[10:34:16] <asie> 4096 bytes
L730[10:34:19] <asie> one minute is 240 kilobytes
L731[10:34:28] <asie> so 32-minute tapes would be about 7680KB
L732[10:34:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I blame Windows.
L733[10:37:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Can I have a local function as an event listener?
L734[10:40:46] <Gopher> I don't see why not, given how lua works
L735[10:42:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Awesomesauce
L736[10:44:27] <Gopher> still feel like I've got a ways to go, but getting more of a feel for what oc does and doesn't do compared to cc
L737[10:44:45] <Gopher> event handler callback system is nice.
L738[10:46:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Makes me think interrupts.
L739[10:49:01] <iLLHunter> i have powered server rack with servers, bound remote to a server w shift rt-click. when i right click remote i get black terminal window. no cursor. typing shows nothing
L740[10:49:06] <iLLHunter> what am i doing wrong
L741[10:51:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Is the server turned on?
L742[10:51:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Does it have a graphics card?
L743[10:52:04] <iLLHunter> ah no gfx card
L744[10:52:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Is the wireless strength a range in blocks>
L745[10:53:34] <ShadowKatStudios> :o Using messages as interrupts, I could administer the node while it's still able to transmit!
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L756[11:00:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway, imma head to bed, it's 3 AM and I need to be up in 3 hours
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L768[11:09:31] <asie> i'm backporting Sorters to 1.6.4 right now
L769[11:10:06] <asie> as BC on 1.7.2 is broken
L770[11:11:37] <asie> yup
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L779[11:53:25] <Gopher> oh wow. was just going over recipes and working out the total cost for basic tier 1 stuff and suddenly remembered something from the forum...
L780[11:53:38] <Gopher> I'm on default recipes. There are hardmode recipes too.
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L782[11:54:23] <Gopher> well, actually looking at the totals, the default aren't /that/ expensive. Tedious, with all the intermediate crafting, but not actually that expensive, at least for tier 1, barely looked at tier 2/3
L783[11:54:49] <Gopher> about a dozen gold ingots, half a stack of iron, and a stack of redstone dust, plus misc trivial stuff
L784[11:55:20] <Gopher> nothing you couldn't easily have within an hour in survival, even if you're unlucky in mining
L785[11:55:30] <Gopher> even without ore doubling
L786[11:57:10] <asie> yeah
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L790[12:17:06] <tgame14> Sangar, i cant do anInt++
L791[12:17:07] <tgame14> ?
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L794[12:28:13] <Gopher> lua doesn't have ++/--
L795[12:28:15] <Gopher> if I understand yer q
L796[12:28:26] <JoshTheEnder> i = i + 1
L797[12:35:24] <Gopher> if he was expecting ++, it seemed safe to assume he could have figured that much out XD
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L800[12:44:27] <Kenny> tgame14: Sangar is afk for a while
L801[12:44:48] <Kenny> !deop
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L806[13:42:19] <Gopher> ok, I'm having some confusion here. From what I've read I thought a program running in an event.pull loop is supposed to be interruptable with ctrl+alt+c?
L807[13:43:59] <ping> :D Gopher
L808[13:44:16] <ping> yeah, ctrl-alt-c or ctrl-shift-c should work
L809[13:44:16] <Gopher> hi, ping :)
L810[13:44:24] <Gopher> YEs, that is what I thought. They are not.
L811[13:44:41] <ping> :/
L812[13:44:59] <Gopher> example, at a lua prompt, "while true do e={event.pull()} print(e[1]) end"
L813[13:44:59] <Gopher> nothing seems to be capable of breaking out of that
L814[13:46:30] <Gopher> with that example, I see the key_down event when ctrl is pressed, a second when I add alt, then see no events for the "c". Then get the key_ups for alt and ctrl.
L815[13:46:44] <Gopher> ctrl-shift-c, I see all 3 key_down events
L816[13:46:48] <SirEnder> e={event.pull()} is not lua syntax
L817[13:46:55] <SirEnder> wait nvm
L818[13:47:21] <Gopher> the code works as intended, it just isn't interruptable :)
L819[13:47:31] <SirEnder> then i have no idea
L820[13:47:31] <Gopher> now, obviously, I can write proper ways to exit my actual programs
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L822[13:48:21] <Gopher> but I for some reason c+a+c is not working as it's apparently supposed to. :/
L823[13:49:10] <Gopher> this is in the latest released for 1.6.4, not one of the dev releases
L824[13:49:10] * Gopher leaves that in the channel and goes back to coding
L825[13:50:07] <ping> "When you're done, press Ctrl+C do quit it (or Ctrl+D if the prompt is empty). Another useful key combination is Ctrl+Alt+C, which lets you break out of sleeps. For example, if you started something like while true do os.sleep(1) end, that's the key combination that'll break that loop. Alternatively just turn it off and on again. "
L826[13:50:20] <ping> only for sleeps? .-.
L827[13:50:44] <Gopher> ah. That would explain it then.
L828[13:51:14] <Gopher> wait, no, it doesn't
L829[13:51:34] <Gopher> ctrl+alt+c does not break out of that loop for me XD
L830[13:51:41] <Gopher> nor ctrl+shift+c
L831[13:51:57] <SirEnder> as it said; it's only for sleeps
L832[13:52:12] <Gopher> so it breaks out of the sleep, not the loop containing the sleep.
L833[13:52:13] <ping> so strange
L834[13:52:28] <Gopher> meanign the example in the quote above is /severely/ misleading
L835[13:52:31] * ping pokes Sangar
L836[13:52:38] <Gopher> that's valid, if that's hwo it works
L837[13:52:47] <Gopher> I'm just trying to figure out how everyhting works XD
L838[13:53:03] <ping> lua 5.2 is aliens?
L839[13:53:33] <Gopher> it's not the lua itself, it's the cc vs oc apis and setups.
L840[13:53:44] <ping> yes, verry strange
L841[13:53:51] <iLLHunter> i have adaptor next to ME controller. shift rt-click on adaptor with analyzer shows applied energistics and address but does not copy it so i can paste it into remote terminal. is there a step i am missing?
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L843[13:54:24] <iLLHunter> server case is on top of adaptor block
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L845[13:54:32] <iLLHunter> rack*
L846[13:54:52] <SpiritedDusty> iLLHunter, you can list the components from the terminal and just do it from there
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L850[13:55:04] <Gopher> if it's connected, I'd think you can get the address in code from the computer, through the component api
L851[13:55:10] <Gopher> ninja'd
L852[13:55:10] <ping> ._.
L853[13:55:13] <SpiritedDusty> :3
L854[13:55:16] <ping> services just dieed?
L855[13:55:22] <Gopher> again
L856[13:55:26] <Gopher> they've been on and off all day
L857[13:55:37] <SpiritedDusty> ping, your alienmagicshit broke it
L858[13:56:12] * ping sends CTCP aliens to services
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L864[13:57:43] <iLLHunter> what am i looking for, i do not see it listed in components
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L866[13:58:17] <iLLHunter> screen, filesystem, gpu, keyboard, computer, modem
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L868[13:58:24] <SpiritedDusty> iLLHunter, then theres something wrong
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L870[13:58:31] <SpiritedDusty> are you sure its connected?
L871[13:58:46] <iLLHunter> it is sitting directly on top of it
L872[13:58:52] <SpiritedDusty> do you have an adapter?
L873[13:59:06] <iLLHunter> server rack on top of adaptor, me controller to the right of adaptor
L874[13:59:08] <iLLHunter> real right
L875[13:59:28] <SpiritedDusty> hm… what version of OC are you on?
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L877[14:00:00] <iLLHunter> jar is 1.6.4-1.2.2.224
L878[14:00:23] <SpiritedDusty> try the newest version, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/releases/tag/v1.2.3
L879[14:00:37] <ping> latest is 291
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L881[14:01:19] <SpiritedDusty> newest as in newest release version
L882[14:01:33] <ping> i prefer beta
L883[14:01:43] <SpiritedDusty> I prefer untested code! :D
L884[14:03:34] <iLLHunter> i updated o-components to latest too
L885[14:06:23] <iLLHunter> same thing not listed
L886[14:11:28] <iLLHunter> http://i58.tinypic.com/30i9f6t.png
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L888[14:12:27] <iLLHunter> in the tut vid there is a gui for the adaptor that the item must be masked in but i was not able to get a gui on the adaptor to come up
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L890[14:21:17] <ping> D: gopher
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L892[14:23:08] <ping> :D Gopher
L893[14:23:21] <Gopher> if I start having a bad internet day, that autogreet from kenny is gonna get old fast XD
L894[14:24:31] <Kenny> iLLHunter: the adapter GUI was done away with a long time ago
L895[14:25:41] <iLLHunter> any ideas why this is not showing up as a component in the system
L896[14:26:47] <Kenny> is it from an AE system?
L897[14:27:13] <iLLHunter> this setup here: http://i58.tinypic.com/30i9f6t.png
L898[14:27:16] <Kenny> not all mod items are available tghrough the adapter block
L899[14:27:33] <iLLHunter> me controller is one of the few things mentioned
L900[14:28:06] <Kenny> there is a very good reason. AE systems have not yet been added into the code for OpenComponents
L901[14:29:00] <iLLHunter> was it there and removed? the Opencompnents section of the forum post lists ME controller as something that can be queried
L902[14:29:02] <Kenny> but you have to have OpenComponents for the adpater block to access
L903[14:29:34] <Kenny> i think that would apply if you have ComputerCraft installed also
L904[14:30:01] <iLLHunter> "When placed next to an Applied Energistics ME Controller information on the stored items can be queried."
L905[14:30:12] <iLLHunter> that lead me to believe the code was there
L906[14:30:21] <iLLHunter> so you're saying someone removed it?
L907[14:30:30] <Kenny> if you have COMPUTERCRAFT and OpenCompnents both installed
L908[14:31:03] <Kenny> Ar doesn't include inate support for OC yet
L909[14:31:04] <iLLHunter> that is on the open computers forum post, not computercraft
L910[14:31:11] <iLLHunter> but i have both those installed regardless
L911[14:32:04] <Kenny> get it thruough your head, you NEED both COLMPUTERCRAFT and OpenCompents for some \things to show up with the adapter block
L912[14:32:14] <Gopher> I've got a partially-finished cc turtle script to make more turtles given only a few saplings to start. I'm kindof tempted now to make that turtle build a top-tier OC system instead... lol
L913[14:32:21] <Kenny> then i don't know what the issue is
L914[14:33:24] <iLLHunter> kenny i have all those installed and updated. i guess your point is that it is not going to work. my point is that it says it is going to work on the OC forum post. maybe someone should change that
L915[14:33:28] <Kenny> do you have the server rack on top of the adapter?
L916[14:33:48] <Gopher> Actually
L917[14:33:48] <iLLHunter> are you asking me?
L918[14:34:05] <Gopher> ComputerCraft can't talk to AE either. Do yo have OpenPeripherals installed?
L919[14:34:22] <Gopher> because that's waht lets CC talk to a lot of mod blocks
L920[14:36:07] <Kenny> iLLHunter: inthat pic you p[osted, starting with the top LEFT block goling across the top and then the bottom, list each component you have there. I'm going to set it up ikn game and see what the issue is
L921[14:37:01] <Kenny> WAIT. are you using a server rack for this?
L922[14:37:12] <iLLHunter> OC server rack, with server(blade), to the right of that is ME crafting Terminal
L923[14:37:18] <iLLHunter> yes
L924[14:37:27] <Kenny> adapterblock on the bottom?
L925[14:37:34] <iLLHunter> yes
L926[14:37:48] <Kenny> do you have the server set up to access threu the Bottom?
L927[14:38:21] <iLLHunter> a-ha!
L928[14:38:26] <iLLHunter> thats what i was doing wrong
L929[14:38:31] <iLLHunter> thanks
L930[14:38:45] <iLLHunter> i see me_controller now
L931[14:38:59] <Kenny> it took it a minute to sink in that you were usihng a server rack :P
L932[14:39:18] <Kenny> i kept thinking computer not server
L933[14:41:00] <Kenny> now back to working on the CompViewer so it can be used on all tiers of computers
L934[14:41:48] <iLLHunter> yeah day 0 with the mod for me, and i already know i prefer servers. i do not need screens much, and I like the remote terminal and higher available ram and hdd
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L938[14:45:52] <Kenny> the tier 3.5 ram will also work in the tire 3 computer
L939[14:46:14] <Sangar> evening
L940[14:46:20] <Kenny> \o
L941[14:46:39] <Gopher> Kenny, that's good, since there aren't tier 3.5 cases, right? :)
L942[14:46:49] <Kenny> right hehe
L943[14:47:11] <Kenny> now we need a laptop computer
L944[14:47:22] * Kenny ducks and runs for cover
L945[14:48:06] <Kenny> Sangar: i finally got the line splitting code done and working right
L946[14:48:28] <Sangar> looking through the last lines, iLLHunter is the server set to connect to the bottom (in the rack gui)?
L947[14:48:32] <Kenny> it allows me to adjust the for different screen sizes
L948[14:48:44] <Kenny> we found that out :)
L949[14:48:44] <Sangar> i should read up to the end!
L950[14:48:58] <Sangar> great
L951[14:49:15] <Kenny> and that issue went on as long as it did because i wasn't thniking server
L952[14:49:17] <Sangar> that's what i get for being superficial :P
L953[14:49:32] <Sangar> heh
L954[14:50:19] <Kenny> i just wish i had a printer (irl) so i could print the Viewer code out and make the adjustments in the code easier
L955[14:50:28] <Kenny> either that or a second monmitor
L956[14:50:58] <Sangar> hah
L957[14:51:24] <Sangar> two monitors are great for coding, yeah
L958[14:51:40] <Kenny> i have another monitor but no DVI cable
L959[14:51:54] <Kenny> both monitors have VGA cords
L960[14:53:03] <Kenny> think i'll go ujp to the computer store beginning of the month and get a DVI cord. then i can use both of them
L961[14:53:19] <Kenny> have to do something now that i'm starting to do modding
L962[14:56:15] <Sangar> :)
L963[14:57:55] <Kenny> well, i now have a function to find the last position of a char in a string :)
L964[14:59:20] <Kenny> one question. if i need to end a line with a quote how do i add it on?
L965[15:00:01] <Kenny> ex: string:"()/k"..delim..(quote mark here)
L966[15:00:40] <Kenny> i know i use the esc char but not how to do it
L967[15:01:36] <Sangar> either ..'"' or .."\""
L968[15:01:48] <Kenny> ok
L969[15:01:50] <Kenny> thank you
L970[15:04:55] <Gopher> I didn't realise lua supported the "" style
L971[15:07:32] <ping> ._.
L972[15:07:47] <Sangar> lua has many ways to quote strings :P ..[["]] would als work. or ..[=["]=]. or ..[==["]==]... and so on :D
L973[15:07:50] <ping> Gopher, wat
L974[15:08:12] <Gopher> No, I mean "" to embed literal "s in strings :P
L975[15:08:55] <Sangar> i think your font is messing with you
L976[15:09:08] <Sangar> that's ' " ' without the spaces
L977[15:10:29] <ping> not using a fixed width font?
L978[15:10:29] <Gopher> aaah. lol. yes. Wow, "" and '"' are indistinguishable in this font apparently.
L979[15:10:31] <ping> blasphemy
L980[15:10:40] <Kenny> i'm trying to make a function that will do this: tmpStr:match'^.*() ' but the last char in the line is the delimiter which is a space
L981[15:11:24] <Gopher> actually, no, they don't, just very similar. And it is fixed-width actually. What do I look like, a barbarian?
L982[15:11:41] <Kenny> so i would have tmpStr:match'^.*()'..delimiter but i need a quote on the end so the delimiter is included
L983[15:14:01] <Kenny> !deop
L984[15:14:02] zsh sets mode: -o on Kenny
L985[15:14:15] <Gopher> you'll have to escape your ()s, too. match will think that is a match group adn return an empty string.
L986[15:15:02] <Kenny> actually this works as is: tmpStr:match'^.*() '
L987[15:15:17] <Kenny> i was looking for the last position of a space in the line
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L989[15:15:55] <Kenny> i'm just tgrying to make a function where i can change that last char
L990[15:16:49] <Kenny> i just don't want to have to memorize lua patterns for string searching
L991[15:16:52] <ping> string:gsub("( ).-$",char)
L992[15:16:53] * Kenny is lazy
L993[15:16:59] <ping> will replace last space with char
L994[15:17:14] <Kenny> i don't want to replace it
L995[15:17:23] <Kenny> in the string that is
L996[15:17:53] <Kenny> i want to be able to change the char in the function so instead of searching for a space it will search for another char
L997[15:18:23] <ping> ah
L998[15:18:33] <Kenny> so instead of tmpStr:match'^.*() ' (looking for a space) i do tmpStr:match'^.*()r' (searching for an r
L999[15:18:54] <Gopher> the empty capture group is confusing me.
L1000[15:19:03] <ping> tmpStr:match('^.*()'..char)
L1001[15:19:20] <Kenny> ok. thanks ping. i'll try that
L1002[15:20:19] <ping> though it will break if its a special char ()[]$+-*?
L1003[15:20:59] <Gopher> don't forget .
L1004[15:21:25] <Kenny> just using it for my line splitting code
L1005[15:21:48] <Gopher> as in, finding carriage returns and splitting into lines?
L1006[15:22:32] <Kenny> no carriage return
L1007[15:22:40] <Kenny> one line 200 chars long
L1008[15:23:18] <Kenny> i need it so i can make the CompViewer for OC work on all 3 tiers of computers not just tier 3
L1009[15:23:25] <Gopher> Ah. well, you seem to have the current obstacle sorted, so I'll let you get on with it, heh
L1010[15:23:34] <Gopher> ah, line wrapping then, gotcha
L1011[15:24:07] <Kenny> right, but i had to adjust the line width according to the resolution of the monitor
L1012[15:24:14] <Gopher> yes, I follow
L1013[15:24:34] <Kenny> a tier 2 is 80 x 25 (though i think that should be for the tier 1)
L1014[15:24:54] <Kenny> i don't remmebr right off hand what the res is for a tier 1
L1015[15:25:10] <Kenny> but i think it is 50 wide
L1016[15:25:23] <Kenny> and maybe 15 lines high
L1017[15:26:08] <Kenny> i've been messing with computers since they first hit the market for home use and i've never seen a monitor with that low of a resolution
L1018[15:26:31] <Kenny> that res only applied to graphics pages ojn the old CGA video cards
L1019[15:26:32] <Gopher> have you seen one with 64k of ram?
L1020[15:26:40] <Kenny> with less
L1021[15:26:45] <Kenny> how about 4k
L1022[15:26:51] <Kenny> max was 48k
L1023[15:27:05] <Kenny> that was my first computer
L1024[15:27:23] <Kenny> 4k in the keyboard and an interface that let you expand it to 48k
L1025[15:27:38] <Gopher> what kind of computer? O_o
L1026[15:27:43] <Kenny> TRS-80
L1027[15:27:58] <Kenny> came out by Radio Shack in 1978
L1028[15:28:28] * Kenny has been around since the beginning of time
L1029[15:28:35] <Gopher> lol.
L1030[15:28:46] <Gopher> Not used to encountering people older than me on minecraft-related irc channels.
L1031[15:29:03] <Kenny> my birthday is one month from today
L1032[15:29:08] <Gopher> My earliest computer memories are early-mid 80s.
L1033[15:29:16] <Kenny> i'll be 57
L1034[15:29:25] <Gopher> Unless you count watching the family play pong, being pissed I didn't get a turn because I was too young lol
L1035[15:29:25] <Kenny> i was 21 when that computer came out
L1036[15:29:56] <Kenny> and back then you HAD to learn to program to use it
L1037[15:30:16] <Kenny> so my first language was good old GW-BASIC
L1038[15:30:24] <Kenny> using line numbers
L1039[15:30:55] <Kenny> data was stored on a cassette tape
L1040[15:31:56] <Gopher> heh. Roughly a decade later, my first progrmaming was in in AppleSoft Basic, which also used line numbers, but did have a floppy drive :)
L1041[15:32:32] <ping> D: applesoft
L1042[15:32:59] <Kenny> i remember those too. had an old apple IIc and IIe
L1043[15:33:09] <Gopher> heh. Got bored with the 1 game I had, and learned that my family's apple gave you the little ] basic promot if you turned it on without a disk.
L1044[15:33:13] <Kenny> and a Nacintosh
L1045[15:33:17] <Gopher> So found the manual and figured out what the hell that was about.
L1046[15:33:31] <ping> i like diving in LBP then instantly getting kicked
L1047[15:33:40] <iLLHunter> apple II plus, my first machine
L1048[15:34:14] <Gopher> Was an Apple ][GS here, the first and last time we had a "family" computer
L1049[15:34:24] <Gopher> by the second one, any pretense it was anything but /my/ computer was gone
L1050[15:35:00] <Kenny> lol
L1051[15:35:29] <Gopher> eventually - in the 21st century - my mom finally got a computer, for email and shopping online and downloading trojans
L1052[15:38:24] <Chanshark> hey, is there a way to to track the mouse pos?
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L1054[15:39:24] <Kenny> o/
L1055[15:39:42] <Gopher> no mousemove events, that I've seen, no
L1056[15:39:58] <Chanshark> alright, thanks
L1057[15:40:25] <Gopher> a drop event, at the end of a drag, would be nice.
L1058[15:40:44] <Gopher> sometimes treating a drag as a series of short drags is not entirely practical.
L1059[15:40:52] <Kenny> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/Signals
L1060[15:40:56] <Kenny> check that out
L1061[15:40:58] <Gopher> ex, dragging a file in a visual file browser
L1062[15:41:18] <Kenny> Gopher there are mouse events in OC
L1063[15:41:29] <Gopher> I know, but the only ones I've seen are click and drag?
L1064[15:41:35] <Gopher> not down/up, or drop
L1065[15:41:56] <Gopher> or move
L1066[15:42:28] <Kenny> your right. not sure how you would even implement that
L1067[15:42:44] <Gopher> I can happily live without move, down, or up
L1068[15:43:05] <Gopher> mouse-over events are superfluous, and you cna make do with just click rather than up/down
L1069[15:43:21] <Gopher> but the specific case of mouse up at the end of a drag, i.e., drop, is pretty essential in certain cases
L1070[15:43:28] <Gopher> resizing a window, you can just treat each drag event independently
L1071[15:43:40] <Gopher> but moving a file, you don't wanna be moving the file 50 times in one drag
L1072[15:44:01] <Kenny> now you done did it
L1073[15:44:21] <Gopher> Did I?
L1074[15:44:33] <Gopher> I didn't mean to. ^Z! ^Z!
L1075[15:44:42] <Kenny> i have to make a function to go with my saveWin and restoreWin so you can resize a screen
L1076[15:44:50] <Gopher> heh
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L1078[15:45:43] <Gopher> my first project, which I've barely begun as I'm still learning all the ins and outs of oc, is going to be buffered window objects. Then use those to make something like screen.
L1079[15:46:00] <Kenny> hey, I can't let CC get anything up on us :P
L1080[15:46:22] <Gopher> though I'm not entirely sure how I'm going to do task swapping, even cooperatively, since oc does not seem to yield in event.pull...
L1081[15:46:42] <ping> hook event api
L1082[15:47:00] <Gopher> event api is what I'm digging through and messing with now
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L1084[15:47:05] <Kenny> o/
L1085[15:49:24] <Gopher> hrm. the event docs is making it sound again like ctrl+alt+c is supposed to throw an interrupt error in all event.pull calls, not just sleep
L1086[15:49:56] <Gopher> by the default event.shouldInterrupt() function, anyway
L1087[15:50:40] <Kenny> ctrl-alt-c is a full interrupt for anything running
L1088[15:50:59] <Kenny> it's in case you gety stuck in an infinite loop
L1089[15:51:16] * Kenny has been there and done that lol
L1090[15:51:19] <Gopher> that... is what I thought.
L1091[15:51:24] <Gopher> But that definitely is not working for me.
L1092[15:51:43] <Gopher> just did another test, in case maybe it was only at a lua prompt that it did not work
L1093[15:52:03] <Kenny> there are cases where you trigger a world event and the world event will not let it stop, then all you can do is turn it off
L1094[15:52:04] <Gopher> and no. Made tmp/test "event=require("event") while true do event.pull() end" and ran it
L1095[15:52:09] <Gopher> ctrl-alt-c does not break out
L1096[15:52:47] <Gopher> the trivial case I just gave, should be interruptable?
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L1098[15:55:14] <Kenny> today e wants to be the little wing floating above :P
L1099[15:55:19] <Kenny> e=he*
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L1102[15:56:00] <Kenny> o/
L1103[15:56:20] <Sangar> Gopher, that should be interruptable
L1104[15:56:38] <Gopher> hmm. yeah, in my current setup, it is not, for whatever reason.
L1105[15:56:56] <Sangar> lemme test
L1106[15:57:18] <Gopher> hrm. wait, is there a 1.2.3? I'm running 1.6.4-1.2.2.232
L1107[15:58:58] <Gopher> dunno if relevant, but updating to 1.2.3.291
L1108[15:59:00] <Sangar> there is, but that didn't change since... long. and it works for me.
L1109[15:59:29] <Gopher> odd. Windows 7, minimal other mods, nei, te, ue
L1110[15:59:56] <Sangar> try while true do print(event.pull()) end to see if the key events come through correctly.
L1111[16:00:11] <Gopher> was doing that at lua prompt earlier
L1112[16:00:22] <Gopher> got key_down for ctrl, and alt, but then nothing for c or anythign else pressed while holding them
L1113[16:00:30] <Gopher> then got ups for ctrl and alt as released
L1114[16:00:49] <Sangar> hm. i get the key_down for ctrl and alt and then the interrupt for c
L1115[16:01:10] <Gopher> what os you on?
L1116[16:01:13] <Sangar> win7
L1117[16:01:18] <Gopher> so not that, odd
L1118[16:01:22] <Sangar> what keyboard layout are you using?
L1119[16:01:27] <Gopher> us-en
L1120[16:01:32] <Sangar> same :/
L1121[16:01:53] <Kenny> are you in lua or a program?
L1122[16:01:55] <Sangar> ...
L1123[16:01:58] <Sangar> i have to ask
L1124[16:02:03] <asie|tab> hi
L1125[16:02:05] <Gopher> kenny, I tried it at a lua prompt, and in a separate program
L1126[16:02:09] <Sangar> is your keyboard crappy and only supports two keys at once?
L1127[16:02:29] <Gopher> I use ctrl+alt+key shortcuts in other programs, so unless they are doing magic and java doesn't, then no :)
L1128[16:03:01] <Sangar> allright :)
L1129[16:04:06] <Sangar> if you only do ctrl+c, does it register the event for c then?
L1130[16:04:26] <Gopher> yeah
L1131[16:04:36] <Gopher> also ctrl+shift+key
L1132[16:04:37] <Gopher> and alt+key
L1133[16:05:17] <Gopher> iiiinteresting
L1134[16:05:20] <Gopher> if I do c /first/
L1135[16:05:22] <Gopher> it's working
L1136[16:05:28] <Sangar> o.O
L1137[16:05:31] <Gopher> yeeah.
L1138[16:05:40] <Gopher> Conclusion: my computer is haunted by a backwards ghost.
L1139[16:05:46] * Gopher closes the issue.
L1140[16:06:06] <Sangar> it'd be interesting if this also happens with no other mods
L1141[16:06:35] <Sangar> i.e. if it's a derp in the lwjgl library/oc or some other mod interfering
L1142[16:06:45] <Sangar> but well, as long as it works *somehow* :P
L1143[16:07:18] <Gopher> it seems ctrl+alt+<char> events are being intercepted, seems likely not by something in minecraft
L1144[16:07:31] <Gopher> but it's not like ctrl+alt+c is one of my shortcuts that's making windows do anything...
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L1146[16:08:39] <Gopher> ah well. If people other than me start having the issue, you can worry about it
L1147[16:08:49] <Gopher> if it's just me, I'm content to write it off as "my computer is haunted"
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L1151[16:28:15] <Kenny> o/
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L1158[17:21:31] <Ir7_o> dont you just love hacking crappy servers that use other servers to advertise, 16 total in my life now ;)
L1159[17:22:04] <ping> Ir7_o, wat?
L1160[17:22:29] <Ir7_o> i had a guy come on my server and advertise his own server
L1161[17:22:38] <Ir7_o> i went to his server, and brought it down
L1162[17:22:43] <Ir7_o> ;)
L1163[17:22:45] <Bizzycola> lol
L1164[17:22:46] <ping> gj
L1165[17:23:02] <Ir7_o> i dont like people who do crap like advertising on servers
L1166[17:23:11] <ping> only the shitty servers advert on others
L1167[17:23:14] <Ir7_o> (spamming basically)
L1168[17:23:19] <Ir7_o> ikr
L1169[17:23:51] <Ir7_o> i dont even know how he got the ip for my server!
L1170[17:25:56] <SpiritedDusty> Ir7_o the forum’s IP?
L1171[17:26:07] <Ir7_o> no,
L1172[17:26:14] <Ir7_o> my local pc's ip
L1173[17:26:19] <SpiritedDusty> oh lol
L1174[17:26:26] <Ir7_o> ;)
L1175[17:26:28] <Ir7_o> brb
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L1178[17:28:23] zsh sets mode: +v on BevoLJ
L1179[17:28:23] <Kenny> o/
L1180[17:28:39] <ping> dammit Lua
L1181[17:28:59] <ping> why u no support table[x,y]
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L1183[17:29:02] <Kenny> o/
L1184[17:29:20] <ping> i thought that would be added in 5.2
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L1186[17:37:47] <Kenny> it supports table[x][y] doesn't it
L1187[17:40:19] <ping> yep
L1188[17:40:40] <ping> but i lazy
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L1191[17:49:47] <Kenny> \o
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L1194[18:43:08] <Kenny> \o
L1195[18:57:24] <Ir7_o> ok back ;)
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L1199[19:14:04] <Kenny> \o
L1200[19:14:29] <Gopher> O_o did I get kicked? just noticed the channle was closed.
L1201[19:15:14] <Gopher> ah well.
L1202[19:15:17] * Gopher resumes mostly idling
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L1204[19:15:22] <Kenny> \o
L1205[19:15:24] <Azelk> test
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L1208[19:16:35] <Anon> JOIN #oc
L1209[19:16:35] <Kenny> \o
L1210[19:16:35] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1211[19:16:35] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1212[19:16:36] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1213[19:16:36] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1214[19:16:36] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1215[19:16:36] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1216[19:16:36] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1217[19:16:37] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1218[19:16:37] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1219[19:16:38] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1220[19:16:38] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1221[19:16:39] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1222[19:16:39] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1223[19:16:40] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1224[19:16:40] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1225[19:16:41] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1226[19:16:41] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1227[19:16:42] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
L1228[19:16:42] <Anon> PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :PRIVMSG #oc :JOIN #oc
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L1230[19:17:00] <Gopher> huh. He was in #cc a second ago.
L1231[19:17:08] <Gopher> Charming fellow. Hate he left so soon.
L1232[19:17:31] <Ir7_o> !ban Anon spam
L1233[19:17:55] <Ir7_o> !ban #oc anon@c-75-72-220-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net
L1234[19:18:06] <Ir7_o> !ban #oc c-75-72-220-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net
L1235[19:18:14] <Ir7_o> why doesnt it work!?
L1236[19:18:20] <Ir7_o> !ban #oc *@c-75-72-220-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net
L1237[19:18:42] <Ir7_o> !ban #oc !*!@c-75-72-220-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net
L1238[19:18:49] <Ir7_o> grrr
L1239[19:21:07] <Ir7_o> banned.
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L1241[19:22:49] <Kenny> \o
L1242[19:25:44] <ping> oh god
L1243[19:26:24] <Ir7_o> ahaha
L1244[19:26:27] <ping> Ir7_o, seems like more of a accident
L1245[19:26:39] <Ir7_o> he did the same thing to cc
L1246[19:26:49] <ping> hmm
L1247[19:26:56] <Ir7_o> it was a spam bot
L1248[19:26:56] <ping> then prolly intentional xD
L1249[19:27:22] <Ir7_o> +1
L1250[19:28:18] <Ir7_o> i couldn't work out the command to ban him! ahha
L1251[19:28:31] <ping> you prolly dont have SOP
L1252[19:28:32] <ping> :/
L1253[19:28:45] <Ir7_o> !deop Ir7_o
L1254[19:28:46] zsh sets mode: -o on Ir7_o
L1255[19:28:47] <ping> just +Oo
L1256[19:28:53] <Ir7_o> !devoice Ir7_o
L1257[19:28:53] zsh sets mode: -v on Ir7_o
L1258[19:28:57] <Ir7_o> !op Ir7_o
L1259[19:28:58] zsh sets mode: +o on Ir7_o
L1260[19:29:30] <Ir7_o> !mode
L1261[19:29:35] <Ir7_o> hm
L1262[19:29:39] <ping> its !flags
L1263[19:29:42] <Ir7_o> ah ok
L1264[19:30:00] *** Ir7_o sets mode: +c
L1265[19:30:06] *** Ir7_o sets mode: +r
L1266[19:30:58] <Ir7_o> did i screw that up?
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L1269[19:31:14] zsh sets mode: +o on Ir7_o
L1270[19:31:14] <Kenny> \o
L1271[19:32:04] <ping> Ir7_o, yes
L1272[19:32:21] <Ir7_o> ah hmm
L1273[19:32:33] <ping> do /mode #oc -cr to be safe
L1274[19:32:44] *** Ir7_o sets mode: -cr
L1275[19:33:20] <ping> oh yeah definitely, +r makes the chan register only
L1276[19:34:00] <Ir7_o> ok
L1277[19:34:50] <Gopher> aaah. If it was +r before, that explains why the channel closed.
L1278[19:35:09] <Gopher> I would've been rejected on a reconnect before my script authenticated me.
L1279[19:35:10] <[R]> +r is usually "this channel is registered"
L1280[19:35:20] <Ir7_o> the channel is still registered.
L1281[19:35:24] <Ir7_o> ./cs info #oc
L1282[19:35:35] <[R]> AFAIK it's a no-op. +R is usually "ban on all non-registered users".
L1283[19:35:40] <ping> yeah
L1284[19:36:01] <Gopher> ah. Then the mystery remains.
L1285[19:36:08] <Ir7_o> i dont f***ing know, its more Kenny's job for that shit. ahha
L1286[19:36:10] * Gopher returns to re-implementing read
L1287[19:36:23] <ping> Gopher, wat
L1288[19:36:30] <ping> we already have read?
L1289[19:36:43] <Gopher> hence re-implementing
L1290[19:36:53] <[R]> Oh
L1291[19:36:55] <[R]> 705 cmode +r - Registered users only. Only users identified to services
L1292[19:36:55] <[R]> 705 cmode may join.
L1293[19:37:05] <ping> :P
L1294[19:37:06] <[R]> This server does it differently.
L1295[19:37:09] <[R]> :p
L1296[19:37:25] <[R]> /help cmode
L1297[19:37:33] <ping> erm, its also standard https://www.alien.net.au/irc/chanmodes.html
L1298[19:37:52] <ping> derp, misread
L1299[19:37:59] <ping> multiple uses
L1300[19:38:17] <[R]> Yeah
L1301[19:38:37] <[R]> I've never seen the RFC version of it though.
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L1303[19:38:54] <Kenny> \o
L1304[19:38:59] <Azelk> Is anyone on?
L1305[19:39:02] <Azelk> mods
L1306[19:39:02] <ping> no.
L1307[19:39:04] <[R]> I'm used to the Bahumut style one.
L1308[19:39:08] <ping> nobody is on
L1309[19:39:09] <Azelk> Any mods on?
L1310[19:39:57] <Gopher> seems odd to me that term.read aborts if anything prints to term mid-read.
L1311[19:40:03] <Ir7_o> nope, I am used to InspIRCd and Anope
L1312[19:40:07] <Ir7_o> best combo.
L1313[19:40:12] <ping> Ir7_o is a mod
L1314[19:40:27] <Gopher> hi again, azelk.
L1315[19:40:34] <Gopher> get the bugs out of anon yet?
L1316[19:40:38] <Azelk> I did.
L1317[19:40:42] <ping> xD
L1318[19:40:47] <ping> spamspamspam
L1319[19:40:51] <Azelk> He actually uses this channel.
L1320[19:40:53] <Azelk> He's pretty mad.
L1321[19:41:09] <Gopher> ...
L1322[19:41:09] * Gopher goes back to coding
L1323[19:41:16] <Azelk> Ir7_o?
L1324[19:41:30] <Ir7_o> yes?
L1325[19:41:36] <Azelk> Are you a mod?
L1326[19:41:46] <Gopher> azelk = anon, from before. Or some relation anyway.
L1327[19:41:53] <Gopher> I assume he wants anon unbanned.
L1328[19:42:08] <Ir7_o> yes.
L1329[19:42:11] <Azelk> Yeah. I fixed the bug that was spamming /join #oc
L1330[19:42:21] <Ir7_o> ...... he is too!
L1331[19:42:27] <Azelk> Can you please unban him?
L1332[19:42:42] <Ir7_o> why?
L1333[19:42:51] <Azelk> It was a mistake.
L1334[19:42:57] <Azelk> You know the IRC client on OC?
L1335[19:43:00] <Ir7_o> ... prove it?
L1336[19:43:05] <Ir7_o> hmm ok
L1337[19:43:07] <Ir7_o> i will
L1338[19:43:20] *** Ir7_o sets mode: -b *!*@c-75-72-220-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net
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L1340[19:43:23] <Kenny> \o
L1341[19:43:28] <ping> \o/ Wired
L1342[19:43:35] <Azelk> There Wired, you're unbanned.
L1343[19:43:44] <Wired> >_>
L1344[19:43:50] <Ir7_o> what happened?
L1345[19:43:53] ⇦ Quits: Wired (webchat@c-75-72-220-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) (Client Quit)
L1346[19:43:57] * ping slaps Azelk: learn how to make IRC bots u tard
L1347[19:44:04] <Ir7_o> +1
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L1349[19:44:19] <Kenny> \o
L1350[19:44:26] <Azelk> I tried to modify the IRC program and screwed up.
L1351[19:44:31] <Gopher> meh, bugs happen. Learn not to test in public channels :P
L1352[19:44:31] <Azelk> I didn't localize a variable.
L1353[19:44:36] <Azelk> :P okay
L1354[19:44:37] <ping> what did you modify ._.
L1355[19:44:53] <Azelk> The function that gets the message.
L1356[19:44:59] <Azelk> TO send
L1357[19:45:02] <Wired> Is there any way you can deny access from everyone on my IP that isn't using my username?
L1358[19:45:21] <Ir7_o> um... just use nickserv and a bouncer
L1359[19:45:28] <Ir7_o> i dont think there is a whitelist
L1360[19:45:36] <ping> Wired, you can set a nickserv mode to make them quit after 20 seconds
L1361[19:45:44] <Ir7_o> you can
L1362[19:45:56] <Ir7_o> or ghosting works i think
L1363[19:46:32] <Ir7_o> wait, nvm ghosting
L1364[19:46:36] <[R]> +e adds ban exceptions, the ircd might support regex ban-masks (which may or may not have lookbehind). Ultimately though, one should be testing a bot/client in a private channel.
L1365[19:47:32] <Ir7_o> Wired, just use another channel for testing
L1366[19:47:44] <Wired> Wired: I'm not the one testing it, Alak was on my server.
L1367[19:47:52] <Wired> Woops, Ir7_o: *
L1368[19:48:00] <Ir7_o> ah ok!
L1369[19:48:02] <Ir7_o> sorry!
L1370[19:48:20] <Ir7_o> use a proxy
L1371[19:48:26] <Ir7_o> though
L1372[19:48:39] <ping> .-.
L1373[19:49:02] <Wired> Ir7_o: It's not your fault, you couldn't have known. I don't even know how to get a proxy on weechat.
L1374[19:49:11] <Ir7_o> ah ok
L1375[19:50:01] <Wired> Generally if I don't join the channel from this username though, something's u.
L1376[19:50:03] <Wired> up*
L1377[19:50:46] <Ir7_o> wait is weechat official to oc?
L1378[19:50:57] <Wired> Weechat's an irc client.
L1379[19:51:03] <Ir7_o> oh ok
L1380[19:51:11] <Ir7_o> so you ported it to your server
L1381[19:51:12] <Ir7_o> ?
L1382[19:51:19] * ping facepalms
L1383[19:51:26] <Ir7_o> ;)
L1384[19:51:26] <ping> Ir7_o, you need to be on IRC more
L1385[19:51:33] <[R]> Pretty sure his "server" is actually just his desktop
L1386[19:51:33] <Ir7_o> i suck
L1387[19:51:47] <[R]> Weechats an IRC client.
L1388[19:51:55] <Wired> [R]: Yeah, I'm hosting the server from my desktop.
L1389[19:52:18] <Wired> And it's not "server", it is technically a server, it's just not really dedicated :P
L1390[19:52:22] <Ir7_o> sorry guys! I am doping out today.. i am on a fair few pain killers for my ribs. must be having an effect
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L1392[19:54:08] <Wired> Ir7_o: What happened to your ribs?
L1393[19:54:36] <Ir7_o> i broke my lower 2 on each side
L1394[19:54:52] <Wired> Heh, how'd you manage that?
L1395[19:55:02] <Ir7_o> i went over the handle bars on my bmx bike
L1396[19:55:05] <ping> D: bork ribs
L1397[19:55:29] <Ir7_o> ahah kinda funny really ;)
L1398[19:55:58] <Ir7_o> going for a weekend bike ride and bamm! broken and in so much pain.
L1399[19:56:05] <Wired> I had a dirtbike for a while, never broke any bones though :D
L1400[19:58:47] <Ir7_o> i finally finished my irc server, sorta..
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L1402[19:58:48] <Kenny> \o
L1403[19:58:54] <Gopher> broken ribs suck
L1404[19:58:58] <Anon> Hello
L1405[19:59:01] <Ir7_o> ikr
L1406[19:59:03] <Ir7_o> Hi
L1407[19:59:15] <Gopher> you can get some relief for any other broken bones, but you can't stop breathing
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L1409[20:01:42] <Ir7_o> developers social methods: Twitter; Skype; IRC; (love hows there no "getting out with the person" in that list)
L1410[20:02:15] <Kodos> Gopher, you can, it just doesn't end well
L1411[20:09:43] <phillips1012> test
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L1414[20:10:46] <Kenny> \o
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L1418[20:12:07] <Wired> test
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L1422[20:14:12] <Kenny> \o
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L1424[20:16:15] <Azelk> test
L1425[20:16:22] <Azelk> im an idiot
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L1429[20:22:22] <Kenny> \o
L1430[20:22:41] <Anon> alakazard12: test
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L1432[20:28:13] <Kenny> \o
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L1436[20:39:35] <Anon> alakazard12: .
L1437[20:41:27] <Gopher> you really have to test that in a public channel? you know you can make your own channels, right?
L1438[20:41:39] <Gopher> yer not being that spammy or anything, but it's sortof the principle of the thing...
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L1440[20:44:00] <Kenny> \o
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L1445[21:02:51] <Kenny> \o
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L1447[21:07:33] <Kenny> \o
L1448[21:31:22] <Kodos> o/
L1449[21:33:33] <ping> o/
L1450[21:40:59] <SpiritedDusty> \o whats going on here
L1451[21:41:15] <ping> o/ idk but im implementingg SSBPL
L1452[21:41:21] <ping> http://esolangs.org/wiki/SSBPL
L1453[21:41:40] <ping> when i get bored, i press random page on esolang and make an inturpreter for it
L1454[21:42:45] <Ir7_o> .-.
L1455[21:42:52] <Gopher> hrm. is it possible gpu.copy is calling gpu.set? I was assuming both were native (non-lua) code...
L1456[21:44:12] <ping> nop
L1457[21:44:30] <ping> gpu.copy is java side
L1458[21:44:50] <Gopher> thought so. So something is going wrong in my code, just gotta suss out what.
L1459[21:45:00] <ping> what are you making?
L1460[21:45:19] <Gopher> aaah, there it is
L1461[21:45:22] <Gopher> derp herp
L1462[21:45:50] <Gopher> presently? nasty things. Eventually? screen.
L1463[21:46:51] <ping> wat
L1464[21:47:01] <ping> i thought we already had screens?
L1465[21:47:36] <Gopher> not that I'm aware of. I don't mean the hardware, I mean the program, screen.
L1466[21:47:46] <Gopher> well, not really. A narrow subset of the features.
L1467[21:50:56] <Gopher> there. that's fixed, and after rather a long time going down the wrong paths and getting nowhere (at least, nowhere worth being), about 40 minutes and I accomplished what I set out to do :P
L1468[21:51:12] <Gopher> in about 1/10th the lines of code I had an hour ago
L1469[21:51:27] <Gopher> (which didn't work, remember)
L1470[21:51:58] <ping> .lua math.log(bit32.bnot(0)+1,2)
L1471[21:51:59] <^v> ping, 32
L1472[21:52:01] <ping> \o/
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L1475[21:57:43] <Gopher> O_o was unpack removed in lua 5.2?
L1476[21:57:52] <SpiritedDusty> Gopher, table.unpack
L1477[21:57:58] <Gopher> aah, it's not global? thx
L1478[21:59:11] <ping> table is global .-.
L1479[21:59:36] <Gopher> yes, but I'm used to unpack being a global function, not requiring access via table :P
L1480[21:59:42] <ping> ikr
L1481[21:59:49] <ping> .lua unpack
L1482[21:59:49] <^v> ping, nil
L1483[21:59:50] <ping> RIP
L1484[22:00:00] <ping> until i rtfmed
L1485[22:00:09] <Kodos> Looks like Jackie and Kelso are expecting a kid
L1486[22:00:24] <ping> i hated 5.2 because a dumbass said there was no unpack
L1487[22:01:42] <Gopher> pretty sure codepad is running 5.2, and I know for a fact it has unpack as a global :P
L1488[22:02:23] <Gopher> but just checked, and I'm wrong
L1489[22:02:29] <Gopher> codepad.org is still doing 5.1
L1490[22:02:38] <Gopher> so ignore me :P
L1491[22:02:39] <ping> http://puu.sh/7HftP.png
L1492[22:02:41] <ping> :P
L1493[22:02:43] <ping> utard
L1494[22:03:38] <Gopher> yes, ping, that is what I did right before saying I just checked and I'm wrong.
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L1497[22:32:49] <Kenny> \o
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L1501[22:43:51] <Kenny> \o
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L1504[22:44:05] <Kenny> \o
L1505[23:10:51] <pong> .lua unpack
L1506[23:10:52] <^v> pong, nil
L1507[23:10:54] <pong> derp
L1508[23:11:11] <pong> i are tired
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L1510[23:22:45] <Gopher> damn, so close here lol
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L1512[23:25:47] <Kenny> \o
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L1514[23:31:04] <Kenny> \o
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