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L2[00:16:27] <mallrat208> Later
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L5[00:43:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Afternoon
o/
L6[00:48:32] <mallrat208> hey
L7[00:49:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Anything
interesting happening anywhere?
L8[00:56:14] <mallrat208> I'm looking for a
pack to make some videos of
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L15[05:29:08] <Kenny> afternoon
Sangar
L16[05:29:43] <Sangar> good morning
:)
L17[05:30:14] <Kenny> morning it is but a
temp below zero makes good academic hehe
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L19[05:30:45] <Kenny> hey Calc
L20[05:30:53] <Sangar> hi there!
L21[05:30:54] <Calclavia> Hi Kenny
L22[05:31:01] <Calclavia> hi Sangar!
L23[05:31:16] <Calclavia> You're the OC
dev?
L24[05:31:23] <Sangar> that would be me,
yes
L25[05:31:32] <Kenny> !flags Calclavia
+Vv
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L27[05:31:35] <Calclavia> Sangar: Hehe,
your Github name is different so couldn't tell :P
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L31[05:31:46] <Sangar> heh, true
L32[05:32:04] <Calclavia> fnuecke on
Git?
L33[05:32:08] <Sangar> yes
L34[05:32:31] <Calclavia> Sangar: Just
telling you next week I'll be updating UE to 1.7, gonna have some
changes unfortunately this time that may cause you a bit of a
change, hopefully not too much
L35[05:32:47] <Calclavia> We're writing the
system to take into account voltage more, more
"RedPower"-like
L36[05:33:00] <Sangar> ah, cool!
L37[05:33:12] <Calclavia> Also, how did you
update to 1.7 without UE being 1.7?
L38[05:33:18] <Calclavia> Or is it just a
shadow implementation lol
L39[05:33:48] <Sangar> i only use very few
of the interfaces, so the only changes i had to make were basically
forgedirection -> moved to util :P
L40[05:33:54] <Vooloo> you guys who make
mods, how hard would it be to make an actual client side mod that
is an interface for server commands? Instead of having people type
commands. It seems like it would not be hard at all. Somebody
should make a interface API where you can create interfaces and use
them in custom modpacks.
L41[05:34:14] <Calclavia> Vooloo: Got no
time for that lol
L42[05:34:21] <Vooloo> But its a good idea
no?
L43[05:34:36] <Calclavia> Sangar: Also,
came here to ask for permission for the Voltz mod pack to include
OC, if I'm not wrong, your mod is open source so I take that
permission is granted by default?
L44[05:34:52] <Sangar> oooooh, that would
be absolutely awesome!
L45[05:34:56] <Kenny> Calc, will you still
have UE available for 1.6.4?
L46[05:35:09] <Sangar> and yes, it's mit so
there will be no problems license wise
L47[05:35:23] <Vooloo> please add thermal
expansion or something with pipes in new voltz...
L48[05:36:43] <Kenny> dang, Sangar, you're
killing me trying to keep up with you hehe
L49[05:36:46] <MrHohenheim> Sangar,
hello
L50[05:37:00] <Calclavia> Kenny: Why
wouldn't I lol
L51[05:37:04] <MrHohenheim> i use oc with
ue.jar and if i place the robot and right click minecraft
closed
L52[05:37:13] <Calclavia> Vooloo: Point of
Voltz is to "use UE based mods to have consistency"
L53[05:37:18] <MrHohenheim> khm without
ue.jar*
L54[05:37:20] <Calclavia> My mod Resonant
Induction already has pipes anyway
L55[05:37:27] <MrHohenheim> hey
Calclavia
L56[05:37:32] <Sangar> hm, crashlog?
L57[05:37:38] <MrHohenheim> no crashlog
:)
L58[05:37:42] <Sangar> o.O
L59[05:37:50] <Calclavia> MrHohenheim:
Check your ForgeModLog.txt
L60[05:37:51] <MrHohenheim> i put not the
modfolder the ue jar and now works
L61[05:37:54] <Calclavia> there's ALWAYS a
log
L62[05:37:56] <MrHohenheim> now*
L63[05:38:00] <MrHohenheim> omg my typo
fail insane
L64[05:38:08] <Kenny> Just makinf sure
:)
L65[05:38:16] <Sangar> sorry, gotta afk for
10-20 minutes, i'll have a look after!
L66[05:38:52] <Kenny> MrHohenheim: OC is
working now?
L67[05:39:00] <MrHohenheim> yes
working
L68[05:39:17] <MrHohenheim> so if i not use
ue.jar and i rightclick the robot mc close
L69[05:39:45] <Kenny> OC requires UE to be
able to work. UE is the api for using various power sources
L70[05:40:07] <MrHohenheim> yeah we have TE
on the server so this reason why the server owner not included the
ue jar
L71[05:40:34] <Kenny> UE is needed to be
able to use the power from TE
L72[05:40:43] <MrHohenheim> yeah i know now
:)
L74[05:40:58] <MrHohenheim> oh and the
first message ue not here computers not need power
L75[05:41:35] <MrHohenheim> now time to
check some robot video :) i need new slaves
L76[05:41:46] <MrHohenheim> golems and
robots very nice
L77[05:41:54] <Vooloo> Calclavia: yeah but
problem with current voltz is the bad synergies between the mods.
MFR is useless basically because mechanical pipes can't pipe
automatically (at least not when I tried).
L78[05:42:35] <Vooloo> There is very little
I can do to automate liquids in current voltz for example, since AE
only works with items
L79[05:42:57] <Calclavia> Vooloo: We're
adding OC, RotaryCraft and Resonant Induction
L80[05:43:02] <Calclavia> and some other
mods
L81[05:43:07] <Vooloo> And the secret rooms
mod would be so welcome, considering this is a pvp pack
L82[05:43:15] <Calclavia> Vooloo: ICBM has
camouflage
L83[05:43:21] <MrHohenheim> yup
L84[05:43:46] <Vooloo> Yeah but that is nt
enough, secret rooms adds secret levers, blocks, player
detectors... you could use a detector to activate a piston that
pops up a turret from the floor
L85[05:44:01] <MrHohenheim> hmm
L86[05:44:09] *
MrHohenheim add to todo list
L87[05:44:20] <Kenny> Calc, you need to
also add OpenComponents to Voltz to go along with OC
L88[05:44:42] <Vooloo> Secret rooms mod is
basically perfect for PVP and secret bases
L89[05:46:08] <Vooloo> And some of the
project red modules, the wiring and gates would have been
nice...
L90[05:46:17] <Vooloo> You don't need to
add the world gen etc.
L91[05:46:34] <MrHohenheim> oh god i need
learn some lua :/
L92[05:46:52] <Vooloo> Those are the flaws
I found playing voltz, otherwise the pack is great fun
L93[05:47:28] <Sangar> back
L94[05:48:01] <Kenny> Sangar, MrHohenheim
has OC working. he didn't know initially that you had to have UE
:)
L95[05:48:39] <MrHohenheim> so we just need
put the ue.jar and we can use the TE energy
L96[05:48:48] <Kenny> yes
L97[05:49:00] <MrHohenheim> but funny first
message no ue not need power and if i rightclick mc close
L98[05:49:04] <Sangar> well it shouldn't
just close minecraft in any scenario, though
L99[05:49:13] <MrHohenheim> hmm maybe
something else
L100[05:49:25] <Sangar> any other mods
present?
L101[05:49:25] <MrHohenheim> if ProfMobius
wake up i ask he
L102[05:49:34] <MrHohenheim> yup
L103[05:49:39] <MrHohenheim> alot mods
200
L104[05:49:43] <Sangar> damn
L105[05:49:47] <Sangar> that's a lot
:P
L106[05:49:57] <MrHohenheim> yeah we fixed
some problem
L107[05:50:03] <Kenny> i'm running 150
hehe
L108[05:50:11] <Sangar> without any log
whatsoever that will be too time consuming to narrow down :/
L110[05:50:43] <MrHohenheim> here the
list
L111[05:51:10] <Kenny> MrHohenheim, if it
happens again be sure to copy the error log to pastebin and post
that link here so we can check it out
L112[05:51:28] <MrHohenheim> yeah i know
but very huge
L113[05:51:33] <MrHohenheim> next time i
clean
L114[05:51:38] <Sangar> just zip it
L115[05:51:52] <MrHohenheim> hmm give me 5
min
L116[05:51:57] <MrHohenheim> i remove ue
now
L117[05:52:45] <Calclavia> MrHohenheim: It
shouldn't crash though, it should simply not work
"universally"
L118[05:52:53] <MrHohenheim> :)
L119[05:53:49] <Kenny> MrHohenheim: you
should check into using Redstone in Motion in place of Truss, it
has more flexibility in building and can be controlled by an OC
computer
L120[05:54:08] <Kenny> it is another
frames mod
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L122[05:54:30] <MrHohenheim> we removed
RiM dont ask why i not rememer
L123[05:54:32] <MrHohenheim>
remember*
L124[05:54:44] <Sangar> is it only robots
btw, or also computers / screen e.g.?
L125[05:55:04] <MrHohenheim> idk i just
crafted only robot first :D
L126[05:55:20] <Sangar> because there was
a case of the wrong api name being checked from buildcraft (for
wrenches) and if i'm not blind there's no bc in the list, so it
might be related.
L127[05:55:26] <MrHohenheim> hmm i removed
ue.jar and no problem now
L128[05:55:38] <Sangar> :/
L129[05:55:42] <MrHohenheim> i start new
world
L130[05:56:48] <MrHohenheim> robots cool i
mean this led thingy knight rider kit auto :)
L131[05:57:04] <Kenny> lol :)
L132[05:57:26] <MrHohenheim> we cant
change the led color? i mean red = power low green= full power
orange half power
L133[05:57:29] <Kenny> I used to watch
Knight Rider al the time :)
L134[05:57:40] <Kenny> all*
L135[05:58:18] <Sangar> it's a texture, so
you could change it by replacing the texture ;)
L136[05:58:28] <Sangar> but only globally,
so not state dependent
L137[05:58:32] <MrHohenheim> oh and you
not want add this feature?:)
L138[05:58:35] <Sangar> might be an
interesting idea though
L139[05:58:46] <Sangar> i'll add it to my
terribly long list >_>
L140[05:58:50] <MrHohenheim> add to todo
list :P
L141[05:58:58] <MrHohenheim> not you have
only big todo list
L142[05:59:10] <Sangar> hehe
L143[05:59:13] <MrHohenheim> :)
L144[05:59:35] <MrHohenheim> stupid
question i can use computercraft programs? i mean quarry program
for robots? or different
L145[05:59:52] <MrHohenheim> iknow this
not miner robot
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L147[06:00:04] <Sangar> not directly. for
most programs it shouldn't be *too* hard to port them,
though.
L148[06:00:10] <Tahg> oh yay, I wasn't at
my 50 chan limit
L149[06:00:14] <Tahg> hey
L150[06:00:22] <Sangar> main difference is
how to address components/peripherals and that it's lua 5.2 not
5.1
L151[06:00:25] <Sangar> hi there :)
L152[06:00:31] <MrHohenheim> so maybe
works and maybe not
L153[06:00:50] <Tahg> so, kinda seeing
some advantages for oc
L154[06:01:09] <MrHohenheim> Tahg, your
ingame name Vaht?
L155[06:01:15] <Tahg> although we're
having a custom mod written kind of for CC atm
L157[06:01:29] <MrHohenheim> ahah so you
have villager farm at dw20 video
L158[06:01:37] <MrHohenheim> melting
thingy
L159[06:01:45] <Tahg> ya, I ripped it
shameless from some vanilla vid
L160[06:01:53] <Tahg> (and added the TiC
stuff myself)
L161[06:01:53] <MrHohenheim> nice
L163[06:02:21] <MrHohenheim> if nei loads
i place the robot
L164[06:02:59] <Tahg> so...I'd definitely
be sold if oc had a block taht could interop with peripherals
written for CC
L165[06:03:03] <MrHohenheim> hmm alright
this not clientside problem
L166[06:03:23] <Kenny> Tahg, use the
Adapter block
L167[06:03:29] <Tahg> does that do
it?
L168[06:03:30] <Sangar> opencomponents
supports cc peripherals via the adapter block. yes it's not
completely seamless, but it's something.
L169[06:03:34] <Kenny> yes
L170[06:03:46] <Kenny> !flags Tahg
+Vv
L171[06:03:46] -ChanServ-
Kenny set flags
+Vv on
Tahg.
L172[06:03:47] <Tahg> also...borderless
monitors is a feature I've always longed for in CC
L173[06:03:52] <Kenny> !voice Tahg
L174[06:03:52]
zsh sets mode: +v on Tahg
L175[06:04:10] <Kenny> how you been,
Yahg
L176[06:04:14] <Kenny> Tahg*
L177[06:04:17] <Tahg> decent
L178[06:04:20] <MrHohenheim> now i make
server side crashlog
L179[06:04:51] <Kenny> been catching your
stream from time to time :)
L180[06:04:52] <MrHohenheim> Sangar, very
good thing this recipes balanced not easy i mean cc turtle
L181[06:04:55] <Tahg> I think in my doc
skimming I saw somewhere that implied OC screens suppported the
full ascii character set?
L182[06:05:11] <Sangar> codepage 437
L183[06:05:22] <Tahg> is that the full mc
font?
L184[06:05:33] <Sangar> its a custom
texture, but pretty much, yes
L185[06:05:44] <Kenny> they don't support
the extended ASCII set for the codepage
L186[06:05:54] <Tahg> either LuaJ or CC
has a restriction that >126 prints ? instead of the proper
char
L187[06:05:54] <Sangar> the actual
charcodes are in utf-8 though :P it can be a tiny bit
confusing.
L188[06:05:56] <Kenny> already tried
that
L189[06:06:27] <Tahg> extended
ASCII?
L190[06:06:34] <Kenny> above 128
L192[06:07:15] <Tahg> bah, I wish
*something* would support that
L193[06:07:22] <Kenny> I attempted it,
Sangar, it just prints a space char
L194[06:07:30] <Sangar> what does?
L195[06:07:39] <Tahg> it's blocky DOS
style I want my line drawing chars =P
L196[06:07:44] <Kenny> Codepage 437 with
OC
L197[06:07:53] <MrHohenheim> hmm omg if
robot use pickaxe , the pickaxe loosee the durability?
L198[06:08:00] <Kenny> II know what you
mean Tahg :)
L199[06:08:13] <Sangar> using the utf8
charcodes? e.g. 2588 for the block?
L200[06:08:18] <Sangar> because that's the
blinking cursor :P
L201[06:08:18] <Kenny> the single/double
line for drawing boxes
L202[06:08:39] <Tahg> ya, I basically want
the entire minecraft font file, in indices 0-255
L203[06:08:49] <Tahg> obv that seems to be
hard
L204[06:08:53] <Sangar> yes, tools used by
robots loose durability. slower than when used by players
though.
L205[06:09:01] <MrHohenheim> very good
feature
L206[06:09:07] <MrHohenheim> and i like
the improved dig
L207[06:09:11] *
MrHohenheim watching video
L208[06:09:12] <Kenny> Tahg, i found out a
while back that you can actually add them into the Minecraft font
texture file
L209[06:09:25] <Tahg> they ARE
already
L210[06:09:27] <Sangar> as for extended
ascii in cc, i *think* it's partially because luaj and java not
supporting unsigned bytes or something.
L211[06:09:37] <Tahg> hmm, I see
L212[06:09:54] <Tahg> so are they in OC?
or can you produce them anyway?
L213[06:10:03] <Tahg> even if not
128-255
L214[06:10:49] <Tahg> but aside from that,
borderless screens would make certain builds so much prettier
L215[06:11:39] <Sangar> hm. as an extra
block or maybe just allow "wrenching" normal screens to
toggle borderless/normal mode?
L216[06:12:34] <Kenny> which would be
easier? :)
L217[06:12:37] <Tahg> either way would
work
L218[06:12:57] <Kenny> Tahg, do you have
the llink for OPenComponents?
L219[06:13:01] <Tahg> it's generally gonna
be a creative mode build for the things I have in mind
L220[06:13:05] <Sangar> i guess the wrench
thingy. wouldn't want to duplicate the screen block rendering stuff
(the texture selection is *ugly*!)
L221[06:13:12] <Tahg> it's on the oc
thread
L223[06:13:33] <Sangar> ah, thanks!
L224[06:13:47] <MrHohenheim> very big and
i cant use pastebeen
L226[06:13:51] <MrHohenheim>
pastebin..
L227[06:14:02] <MrHohenheim> forum not
works
L228[06:14:09] <MrHohenheim> There appears
to be an error with the database.
L229[06:14:38] <Sangar> (1:13:40 PM)
Sangar has changed the topic to: ** FORUMS BEING RESET ** <--
this
L230[06:15:15] <Tahg> well...20264 is
definitely not a valid block id if I'm reading this correctly
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L233[06:16:19] <Kenny> Afternoon,
LordJoda
L234[06:16:34] <Tahg> oh, another
question
L235[06:16:43] <Sangar> hmm, is that last
thing what crashes the game?
L236[06:16:49] <Tahg> can I do everything
in this that I can do in "real" lua?
L237[06:16:52] <LordJoda> Morning,
Kenny
L238[06:17:09] <MrHohenheim> Sangar, i
placed the robot
L239[06:17:17] <MrHohenheim> and i
rightclicked with empty hand
L240[06:17:25] <Tahg> ie LuaJ misses
things like require, and the debug library
L241[06:17:38] <Sangar> pretty much - i
tried to simulate the vanilla lua libraries as closely as possible
(io and os, sandboxed things), debug library isn't available,
though, due to sandboxing.
L242[06:17:47] <Sangar> require is in
though (thanks to Wobbo)
L243[06:17:57] <Sangar> debug.traceback is
there, too :P
L244[06:18:27] <Tahg> ya, I imagine things
like getlocal/setlocal are dangerous
L245[06:18:35] <MrHohenheim> hmm Sangar so
i logged back and i can rightclick the robot
L246[06:18:37] <MrHohenheim> weird
L247[06:18:44] <Sangar> MrHohenheim: i'm
asking because it's not oc related (the traceback)
L248[06:18:55] <MrHohenheim> oke thats
good for me
L249[06:19:00] <MrHohenheim> and bad for
the Proff
L250[06:19:03] <MrHohenheim> :D
L251[06:19:08] <Sangar> just nei :X
L252[06:19:14] <MrHohenheim> nei derp
again -.-
L253[06:19:29] <MrHohenheim> alright thx
the help!
L254[06:19:44] <Sangar> sure. let me know
if you find any trace of oc in another log ;)
L255[06:19:48] <Kenny> Tahg, OC uses Lua
5.2
L256[06:19:50] <Tahg> this spam is
interesting: [ForgeModLoader] Attempt to send packet to all in
dimension without a server instance available
L257[06:20:12] <MrHohenheim> forge and
lexmanos... no comment :)
L258[06:20:31] <Tahg> does 5.2 not have
those features in debug?
L259[06:21:02] <Sangar> it would
have
L260[06:21:13] <Kenny> it does have what
he said, i mention it because the set/getfenv is not
available
L261[06:21:28] <Sangar> that is true
L262[06:21:32] <Sangar> oh Tahg: one more
thing that is disabled by default: byte code loading (i.e. loading
string.dumped functions e.g.)
L263[06:22:03] <Sangar> because it uses
native lua, meaning c, meaning byte code -> terrible security
headaches. it can be enabled in the config if you're sure about it,
though.
L264[06:22:08] <Tahg> as in
loadstring("stuff")
L265[06:22:31] <Sangar> as in load(...
"b") as opposed to load(... "t")
L267[06:23:07] <MrHohenheim> i can place
and pick again and place so nei...
L268[06:23:07] <Tahg> can you still do io
on a "b" file?
L269[06:23:26] <Sangar> you do binary
io.opens yes
L270[06:23:35] <Sangar> that's just
related to loading lua code
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L273[06:29:07] <Tahg> I see
L274[06:29:27] <Tahg> so unrelated to
loading eg a .lua file
L275[06:30:22] <Tahg> not that filenames
really matter
L276[06:30:24] <Sangar> reading the file,
unrelated, yes, loading the code *in* the file, very much
related.
L277[06:32:25] <Tahg> is there a 5.1 to
5.2 differences somewhere?
L278[06:32:36] <Sangar> mainly how
environments work
L279[06:32:51] <Sangar> i.e. as kenny
said, getfenv/setfenv is gone, _ENV is a thing now
L280[06:33:05] <Sangar> oh you mean a
list?
L282[06:35:00] <MrHohenheim> robots can
use tinkersconstruct pickaxe/hammers?:)
L283[06:35:06] <Sangar> yep
L284[06:35:10] <MrHohenheim> omg
L285[06:35:11] <MrHohenheim> !!
L286[06:35:53] <MrHohenheim> you have
donation button?:)
L287[06:36:21] <Sangar> no, but thanks for
asking :)
L288[06:36:32] <MrHohenheim> make one for
paypal
L289[06:37:40] <Tahg> hmm, getfenv and
setfenv are deprecated, I'd have to see how to obtain similar
results
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L292[06:40:37] <Sangar> *usually* you will
by either using _ENV (variable with that name is by definition the
env for code that 'sees' that variable) or passing an environment
to load()
L293[06:42:20] <Coreymills25> hello
Sangar
L294[06:42:28] <Sangar> hiya
L295[06:43:08] <Coreymills25> wats
up
L296[06:43:23] <Sangar> stuff
L297[06:44:05] <Coreymills25> sounds
fun
L298[06:44:09] <Sangar> right?
L299[06:44:18] <Coreymills25> xD
L300[06:44:29] <Kenny> hey Corey
L301[06:45:02] <Coreymills25> heyy
kenny
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L303[06:46:04] <Coreymills25> you should
add a recipe to tun the nuggets back into ingots Sangar
L304[06:46:26] <MrHohenheim> Tahg, i
remember what dw20 say
L305[06:46:26] <Sangar> very good point.
so obvious, so easily forgotten.
L306[06:46:35] <MrHohenheim> he looked
your deep store unit
L307[06:46:45] <MrHohenheim> you insane
30k+ woodlog
L308[06:46:48] <Coreymills25> xD i went to
do it earlier and found there was no recipe for it
L309[06:46:53] <MrHohenheim> i have now
300k ++ :D
L310[06:47:19] <Tahg> meh, I wasn't really
trying
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L312[06:47:40] <Tahg> well, I was actually
going for saplings, wood was kind of a byproduct
L313[06:47:56] <MrHohenheim> i wanna show
you something why i have too many
L315[06:48:19] <MrHohenheim> mfr skyboy
fault he sacred rubber sapling
L316[06:48:23] <MrHohenheim> 400x400
area
L317[06:48:30] <MrHohenheim>
maddness
L318[06:48:42] <MrHohenheim> my base
eternal night atm
L319[06:49:04] <MrHohenheim> so dont plant
sacred rubber sapling!
L320[06:49:17] <Sangar> o.O
L321[06:49:59] ***
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L322[06:50:06] <MrHohenheim> sorry for off
topic :)
L323[06:50:41] <MrHohenheim> so this robot
just a bit opness
L324[06:50:44] <Sangar> that's fine. i got
to see a huge tree. :D
L325[06:50:45] <MrHohenheim> :))
L326[06:50:54] <MrHohenheim> that insane
huge
L327[06:51:13] <MrHohenheim> i use mfr
harvester and 3 deep store unit
L328[06:51:16] <JoshTheEnder> wow
L329[06:51:28] <MrHohenheim> and i still
not see the sky
L330[06:51:55] *
MrHohenheim not englis native speaker so ply ignore my typo
fails
L331[06:52:05] <MrHohenheim> khm native
englis*
L332[06:52:17] <MrHohenheim> please
L333[06:52:25] <MrHohenheim> i need drink
coffe :/
L334[06:52:32] <Sangar> hehe
L335[06:53:04] <MrHohenheim> i know the
englis word just idk why typo fail..
L336[06:53:08] <MrHohenheim> :D
L337[06:53:11] <Vexatos> Hellöa!
L338[06:53:18] <MrHohenheim> hello
Vexatos
L339[06:53:25] <Kenny> MrHohenheim, i
think there are more people here from the other countries where
English is not native than there are native English speaking
:)
L340[06:53:54] <MrHohenheim> i know just
you know why i cant write/wrote normal :)
L341[06:54:08] <MrHohenheim> i always
forget "write or wrote"
L342[06:54:27] <Kenny> does not bother me
in the least, i know what you mean :)
L343[06:54:34] <MrHohenheim> oke thx
:)
L344[06:54:42] <Kenny> and in that since
'write' was the correct word
L345[06:54:52] <Kenny>
since=sentence
L346[06:54:52] <MrHohenheim> ok :)
L347[06:55:09] <Kenny> see, i'm native
English speaking and i still screw up lol
L348[06:55:35] <Vexatos>
<--German
L349[06:55:49] <MrHohenheim> lol
L350[06:56:00] <MrHohenheim> yeah Vexatos
living top of my country
L351[06:56:03] <MrHohenheim> :P
L352[06:56:09] <Vexatos> A lot of the
people here are from Germany
L353[06:56:13] *
MrHohenheim hungarian
L354[06:56:17] <Vexatos> I know :D
L355[06:56:21] *
Vexatos is hungry as well
L356[06:56:22] <MrHohenheim> you :P
L357[06:56:24] <MrHohenheim> haha
L358[06:56:26] <MrHohenheim> old joke
:P
L359[06:56:27] *
JoshTheEnder is English English
L360[06:56:31] <JoshTheEnder> :P
L361[06:56:41] <Kenny> <--
American
L362[06:56:41] <Vexatos> English English?
That's cool
L363[06:56:44] <Vexatos> BOOO
L364[06:56:57] <JoshTheEnder> i.e. English
and from England :)
L365[06:57:06] *
Vexatos throws British English Dictionaries at Kenny
L366[06:57:16] <MrHohenheim> my sister
living at london atm
L367[06:57:20] <Kenny> why oyu do that,
old chap
L368[06:57:28] *
Vexatos throws more British English Dictionaries at
Kenny
L369[06:57:37] <Sangar> british english =
best english for listening enjoyment. it just sounds so naturally
funny for some reason :P
L370[06:57:39] *
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L371[06:57:45] *
Kenny tosses Vexatos in the boot of the car
L372[06:57:48] <MrHohenheim> i learned
british englis and sometimes i confosed if i speaking americans
:)
L373[06:57:58] <MrHohenheim>
confused*
L374[06:58:26] <Vexatos> In Germany you
learn British English as well
L375[06:58:28] <JoshTheEnder> mom =
American, mum = Brittish
L376[06:58:33] <JoshTheEnder> good good
:)
L377[06:58:34] <Vexatos> Brittttish
L378[06:59:08] <Sangar> when a parent
asked my teacher back in the day whether we'd learn british or
american english he was like 'well i'm happy if they learn any
english at all!' :P
L379[06:59:19] <Vexatos> Heh
L380[06:59:29] <Vexatos> So, are you using
lifts or elevators? :P
L381[06:59:39] <Kenny> English =
lifts
L382[06:59:41] <Sangar> stairs, usually
:P
L383[06:59:48] <JoshTheEnder> heh
L384[06:59:49] <Kenny> lol
L385[06:59:52] <Vexatos> >_>
L386[06:59:54] <Vexatos> <_<
L387[06:59:59] <JoshTheEnder> ^_^
L388[07:00:05] <Vexatos> @____@
L389[07:00:13] <JoshTheEnder> aww, no
downward style arrow
L390[07:00:15] <Vexatos> Sangar, we need
to get SHocky in here
L391[07:00:22] <Vexatos> /invite Shocky
#oc
L392[07:00:24] <Vexatos> PLEASE
L393[07:00:25] <Vexatos> :D
L394[07:00:30] <Kenny> Shocky is offline
at the moment
L395[07:00:34] <Vexatos> What
L396[07:00:42] <Vexatos> You're
right
L397[07:00:43] <Vexatos> Dangit
L398[07:00:46] <Kenny> ping timed out at
5am my time
L399[07:01:00] <Kenny> isn't back on
yet
L400[07:01:34] <Vexatos> NOOO
L401[07:01:47] <Vexatos> I wanted to have
massive fancy emote botspam
L402[07:01:48] <Vexatos> D:
L403[07:02:19] <zsh> wallops Vexatos
L404[07:02:41] <Vexatos> You are not a
spam bot, go away
L405[07:02:50] <MrHohenheim> :)
L406[07:02:56] <zsh> are you amking fun of
bots now?
L407[07:02:59] *
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L408[07:03:35] <zsh> whacks
JoshTheEnder
L409[07:03:35] *
Vexatos makes fun of zsh
L410[07:04:13] <zsh> asks Vexatos if he
wants to see something funny
L411[07:04:19] *
JoshTheEnder thuds zsh
L412[07:04:22] *
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L413[07:04:29] *
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L414[07:04:37] ***
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L415[07:04:41] <zsh> tells Vexatos to look
in a mirror
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L417[07:05:44] <MrHohenheim> zsh exeption
error
L418[07:05:48] <MrHohenheim> :D
L419[07:06:15] <Vexatos> zsh has crashed
with an error: NotThatFunnyException
L420[07:06:20] <zsh> didn't know us bots
could talk, did ya?
L421[07:06:26] <Vexatos> Yes I did
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L424[07:08:01] *
EnderBot thumps zsh
L425[07:08:39] <zsh> looks at EnderBot
funnily
L426[07:08:58] *
EnderBot looks at zsh
L427[07:09:13] <zsh> pulls out an emp gun
and shoots at EnderBot
L428[07:09:26] *
EnderBot is unaffected
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L430[07:11:12] <zsh> throws some water on
EnderBot
L431[07:11:26] *
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L432[07:11:42] <Coreymills25> :( im bored
of minecraft now
L433[07:11:59] <MrHohenheim> never
L434[07:12:38] <Kenny> MrHohenheim: he
can't run very many mods at a time :(
L435[07:12:44] <MrHohenheim> :(
L436[07:12:56] <MrHohenheim> old ftb times
max 50 mod
L437[07:13:08] <MrHohenheim> and now like
dns techpack 200+
L438[07:13:12] <Coreymills25> yea if i
dont want it laggy i can run up to 35 maybe 40 mods
L439[07:13:36] <Kenny> i used to work with
the DNS Techpack crew hehe
L440[07:14:09] <Kenny> left there and took
over the AMCO pack for a while
L441[07:14:28] <Coreymills25> i work on
the simcraft wiki
L442[07:15:47] <Kenny> sorry, distraction
in the house hehe
L443[07:15:54] <Coreymills25> lol
L444[07:16:07] <Kenny> young cat keeps
trying to beat up on the other cat....
L445[07:16:23] <Kenny> and she keeps
thumping his butt good hehe
L446[07:16:37] <Coreymills25> lol my dog
used to run away from my cat when it was a kitten
L447[07:16:51] <Kenny> sharp claws hurt
the nose hehe
L448[07:17:07] <Coreymills25> wasnt the
nose the cat was attacking
L449[07:17:26] <Kenny> omg lol
L450[07:17:55] <Coreymills25> lol
L451[07:18:29] <Kenny> every morning about
this time, this kitten just goes crazy
L452[07:18:52] <Kenny> running all over
the place, getting into everything
L453[07:19:10] <Kenny> goes on for about
an hour, then he chills out
L454[07:19:21] <Coreymills25> lol
L455[07:19:31] <Coreymills25> nothing
better like waking everyone up
L456[07:19:53] <Tahg> hrm
L457[07:19:59] <Kenny> i've been up since
4:30am hehe
L458[07:20:12] <Tahg> I've been up
since...idk when
L459[07:20:21] <Tahg> probably 10 or 11
pm
L460[07:20:26] <Coreymills25> lol i havnt
went to bed in 2 days now
L461[07:20:29] <Kenny> Tahg, you are as
bad as i used to be :)
L462[07:20:40] <MrHohenheim> :D
L463[07:20:43] <Tahg> I'm a night person,
it's almost my bedtime
L464[07:21:01] <MrHohenheim> Tahg, why u
not use ae system? too many deep store unit :)
L465[07:21:08] <Tahg> uh...
L466[07:21:14] <Coreymills25> yea the sun
burns
L467[07:21:14] <MrHohenheim> your base
like a maze
L468[07:21:25] <MrHohenheim> :D
L469[07:21:29] <Tahg> if you've actually
used an AE system you'd know why?
L470[07:21:32] <Tahg> they don't hold
much
L471[07:21:47] <MrHohenheim> lot of me
drive +64k dirve
L472[07:21:52] <MrHohenheim> disk*
L473[07:21:57] <Kenny> 63 stacks of 64
with a 64K disk
L474[07:22:29] <MrHohenheim> iam always
run out of materials
L475[07:22:57] <Tahg> they only hold 520k
items
L476[07:23:11] <Tahg> and require shittons
more resources
L477[07:23:15] <MrHohenheim> and you have
more?
L478[07:23:25] <Tahg> of the woods and
stuff? probably
L479[07:23:34] <MrHohenheim> :D
L480[07:23:41] <MrHohenheim> you can turn
off the farm :P
L481[07:24:03] <Tahg> eh, I need the saps
for my bioreactors
L482[07:24:12] <MrHohenheim>
voidpipe
L483[07:24:20] <MrHohenheim> oh yeah
bioreactor
L484[07:24:28] <MrHohenheim> but your bio
reactors are full
L485[07:24:34] <MrHohenheim> and you have
tons of energy :P
L486[07:24:38] <MrHohenheim> cap
banks?
L487[07:24:57] <MrHohenheim> i not
remember forgecraft have enderio mod
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L489[07:25:54] <Coreymills25> oh DW20s
video should be up now
L490[07:29:09] <Vexatos> :|
L491[07:29:24] <Coreymills25> ?
L492[07:29:32] <Tahg> well, I'm not
actually using much
L493[07:29:53] <MrHohenheim> :)
L494[07:30:00] <Tahg> the tesseract to my
laser drill is currently disabled
L495[07:30:25] <MrHohenheim> imo i not
like laser drill need alot energy and producing less ores
L496[07:30:33] <MrHohenheim> not too
much
L497[07:30:40] <Tahg> eh, it produces
renewable ores tho
L498[07:30:55] <MrHohenheim> yeah
sometimes good but..
L499[07:30:57] <Tahg> only other thing
that can do that I know of is bees
L500[07:31:03] <MrHohenheim> yup
L501[07:31:10] <Tahg> well, UU too
maybe
L502[07:31:19] <MrHohenheim> i use now the
new bigreactor for power production
L503[07:32:25] <MrHohenheim> i need
powering the mfr harvester or i never chop down this insane
tree
L504[07:32:34] <MrHohenheim> :D
L505[07:34:02] <MrHohenheim> hmm i think i
attach the robot to bigreactor i hope not blow up
L506[07:34:08] <MrHohenheim> :D
L507[07:34:14] <MrHohenheim> 600rf
output
L508[07:34:29] <Vexatos> Tahg, The Laser
drill makes ores out of nothing, bees do nuggets, and UU is kind of
like the Laser drill, just more time intensive
L509[07:35:08] <MrHohenheim> Sangar, so
you reset the forum so you have fresh empty forum?
L510[07:35:14] <Tahg> idk, I just like
renewable everything
L511[07:35:15] <Vexatos> Also,
ExtraUtilities Nether Star Generator with 5 RS Energy conduits
attached can power a Laser drill pretty well
L512[07:35:48] <Tahg> if you have nether
stars...
L513[07:35:54] <MrHohenheim> :D
L514[07:36:13] <Sangar> forums: i'm not
quite sure myself what the status on that is. Ir7_o (who runs that
server) said he wanted to migrate it to linux, but apparently
something went wrong.
L515[07:36:27] <MrHohenheim> ouch
L516[07:37:24] <Kenny> if i had a better
Internet connection, i'd host it right here on my system
L517[07:38:01] <MrHohenheim> i have
90/25mbit
L518[07:38:26] <Sangar> depending on what
he has to say we might move it to my server (the one that runs the
jenkins), though i can't estimate how that will hold up :P
L519[07:38:45] <Kenny> mine is really bad:
3MB Down 500K up :(
L520[07:38:56] <MrHohenheim> modem
age?:o
L521[07:39:11] <Kenny> kind of, DSL
L522[07:39:11] <MrHohenheim> cable or wifi
thingy?satellite
L523[07:39:16] <MrHohenheim> oh
L524[07:39:37] <Kenny> working on getting
cable, but even then, max is 15MB down 1MB up
L525[07:39:38] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny, mine
isnt much better, 7MB down, 900K up :/
L526[07:39:55] <JoshTheEnder> and that's
at it's best
L527[07:40:02] <MrHohenheim> i read
somewhere usa have very good internet
L528[07:40:14] <MrHohenheim> but i hear
ppls have very bad up/down
L529[07:40:17] <Kenny> 15MB/1MB is the
best for home use here
L530[07:40:41] <JoshTheEnder> my father's
internet is like 30Mb down, 1.99Mb up
L531[07:40:47] <Kenny> it's the providers
here. tey are all greedy
L532[07:41:05] <MrHohenheim> i pay
20dollar/month
L533[07:41:09] <Kenny> people can't pay
the price they want for a real good transfer rate
L534[07:41:13] <MrHohenheim> 4500huf
L535[07:41:18] <Sangar> nah, it's just
that if there'd be even more traffic the nsa would get into even
more trouble storing it all :P
L536[07:41:25] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L537[07:41:30] <MrHohenheim> yeah very
expensive at the other countrys
L538[07:41:52] <Kenny> for me to get
15MB/1MB costs $60USD
L539[07:41:57] <MrHohenheim> OMG
L540[07:42:12] <JoshTheEnder> from when
i've been talking to my US friend ( SuPeRMiNoR2 ) the internet here
in the UK is quite a bit cheaper than the US
L541[07:42:33] <Kenny> and as i am on a
limited income, i have to go with what i can get at the
moment
L542[07:42:41] <Kenny> way cheaper
L543[07:43:45] <Kenny> to my knowledge, at
the moment, we don't have access to satellite internet
L544[07:43:58] <Kenny> just DSL and
cable
L545[07:44:27] <Coreymills25> i got
fibreOp
L546[07:44:31] <MrHohenheim> hmm i have
arduino+ethernetboard i thinking to make server just idk what
server can handle this microcomputer
L547[07:45:28] <Kenny> what kind of
server?
L548[07:46:02] <Kenny> web server, irc
server, or other?
L549[07:46:27] <MrHohenheim> web or
irc
L550[07:46:32] <MrHohenheim> or
other
L551[07:46:36] <MrHohenheim> :)
L552[07:46:41] <MrHohenheim> i need some
research
L553[07:46:57] <Kenny> i would think
apache for a web server. would also need php
L555[07:47:44] <MrHohenheim> ignore
L556[07:47:47] <MrHohenheim> this the
good
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L559[07:47:53] <MrHohenheim> i thinking to
buy this one
L560[07:48:21] <MrHohenheim> nice internal
storeage
L561[07:49:04] <MrHohenheim> only
problem
L562[07:49:11] <MrHohenheim> still out of
stock 3 week ago
L563[07:54:56] <Kenny> and they are priced
at a decent rate
L564[07:55:44] <Michiyo> I've got a
Jenkins server that runs LanteaCraft I could offer, and I could
setup a user on my hosting account for you guys if you need
it..
L565[07:56:31] <Kenny> morning, Michiyo
:)
L566[07:56:41] <Michiyo> o/
L567[07:56:45] <Michiyo> Just got
home
L568[07:57:10] <Kenny> kind of figured
that :)
L569[07:57:25] <Kenny> i watched in
Lanteacraft yesterday :)
L570[07:57:57] <Michiyo> :P
L571[07:57:58] <Kenny> i'm waiting on
Lochie to give me back my computer control for dialing hehe
L572[07:58:29] <Michiyo> I've not even
tried it in CC, but others have said it works. SO not sure why OC
wouldn't
L573[07:58:54] <Kenny> but he has it set
to working with events now :(
L574[07:59:17] <Kenny> going to have to
test it and see
L575[07:59:38] <Michiyo> Well, there are
ltos of events, but dial("ADDRESS") and disconnect()
should all still work
L576[08:00:16] <Michiyo> got a new phone
last night woot
L577[08:00:24] <Michiyo> I'm now among the
android owners.. lol
L578[08:00:33] <Kenny> i just got RC 16
and don't see it in the list. but i'll take another look later and
see if i can find what the difference is
L579[08:01:14] <Kenny> i have't reached
the android stage yet. don't use a phone very much so i just get
minute phones
L580[08:02:38] <Michiyo> Heh I moved from
a Prepaid Pantech Caper, to a Galaxy legend
L581[08:03:41] <Kenny> i live on a limited
income so some things i have to pass over :(
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L583[08:04:14] <Michiyo> I hear ya
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L585[08:05:15] <Kenny> i'd like to get a
phone where i could stay connected all the time, but i go with what
i can get. my disability backpay check bought my new computer for
me or i'd still be offline
L586[08:06:14] <Kenny> that and Newegg
screwing up so bad i got an extra $250 worth of stuff out of them
lol
L587[08:06:35] <Vexatos> ?
L588[08:06:38] <Michiyo> Never had issues
with Newegg, I did have Tiger Direct charge me 3 times for a $900
order once
L589[08:06:46] <Tahg> ouch
L590[08:07:03] <Michiyo> THen they said
they wouldn't refund until I got all 3 orders, and paid for return
shipping
L591[08:07:26] <Tahg> but they only sent
it once or what?
L592[08:07:31] <Kenny> they didn't
overcharge me. I ordered the computer shipped one specific way and
they changed it so that i got everything for the computer at the
same time except for the computer
L593[08:07:34] <Michiyo> No they sent all
3..
L594[08:07:44] <Michiyo> I reported them
to the CC Company, had a reissued card in 2 days, and reodered from
newegg for $100 less :P
L595[08:07:45] <Kenny> ok. this will take
a bit to explain...
L596[08:08:06] <Tahg> oh, so they charged
and sent it 3 times...that's still terrible
L597[08:08:19] <Tahg> but maybe slightly
less
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L599[08:08:34] <Michiyo> Yeah, I was
looking at, atleast a week and a half, with NO money at all.
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L601[08:09:08] <Kenny> in my case they
screwed up on shipping, and when i did get the computer it had a
dead mobo
L602[08:09:29] <Vexatos> Well, I guess
I'll just buy my PC parts in a local store
L603[08:09:30] <Tahg> man
L604[08:09:45] <Tahg> I normally buy from
newegg, never had an issue
L605[08:09:55] <Vexatos> Might be more
expensive, but then 2 year guarantee on everything
L606[08:10:04] <Kenny> it worked out to my
bebnefit cause the computer i had bought cost $5290. this system
cost $660
L607[08:10:12] <Tahg> you generally can't
buy "parts" in a local shop
L608[08:10:16] <Tahg> at least not around
here
L609[08:10:32] <Kenny> Newegg footed the
other $130 of the cost
L610[08:10:35] <Vexatos> Well, there's an
actual 'store' that assembles PCs for you
L611[08:10:49] <Vexatos> So you can buy
parts there, they assemble the thing and you can get the PC
L612[08:10:49] <MrHohenheim> so
L614[08:10:53] <MrHohenheim> upadted
pic
L615[08:10:57] <MrHohenheim> for the
tree
L616[08:11:00] <Vexatos> Not sure if that
is what I want
L617[08:11:10] <Kenny> there's a few
stores here near me, Tahg, that sell computer parts
L618[08:11:25] <Tahg> can get
"upgradable" things only around here, like ram, HDs, DVD
drives etc
L619[08:11:38] <Tahg> I don't know of any
that sell cases or MBs
L620[08:11:49] <Tahg> or maybe I just
haven't looked
L621[08:11:57] <Kenny> these are
specialized stores i deal with....
L623[08:12:10] <Vexatos> Bevo's Tech
Pack
L624[08:12:27] <Kenny> I build and repair
computers so i looked for the places where i could get the
necessary things
L625[08:12:42] <Tahg> there is something
seriously wrong with my desktops internet
L626[08:12:45] <Vexatos> I am kind of
afraid of building a PC myself
L627[08:12:58] <Vexatos> I could just
break something so easily ):
L628[08:13:09] <JoshTheEnder> MrHohenheim,
what mod is that from?
L629[08:13:29] <Vexatos> MFR
L630[08:13:35] <Tahg> took me 6 tries to
get a "proper" jpg of that tree pic
L631[08:14:01] <Tahg> it generally times
out before it's recieved all 3 complete color channels
L632[08:14:13] <Michiyo> o_O
L633[08:14:39] <MrHohenheim> :D
L634[08:14:44] <JoshTheEnder> i need to
get MFR and just build an entire base in one of those trees
L635[08:14:55] <Vexatos> Me too
L636[08:14:55] <Tahg> resulting in a
generally recognizable picture, with at least one channel stopping
at a block somewhere in the middle of the image
L637[08:14:57] <MrHohenheim> Sangar, we
fixed the server all fine now
L638[08:15:09] <MrHohenheim> sacred rubber
sapling
L639[08:15:25] <Tahg> good luck finding
one of those
L640[08:15:28] <Sangar> good to know,
thanks :)
L641[08:15:42] <Vexatos> Sangar, OC was
added to BevosTechPack!
L642[08:15:42] <Tahg> can you plant those
trees?
L643[08:15:47] <Vexatos> Such a cool
thing
L644[08:15:59] <Sangar> oh, cool :)
L645[08:16:04] <MrHohenheim> i found
dungeon loot
L646[08:16:09] <Vexatos> Yea
L647[08:16:11] <Vexatos> CC removed
L648[08:16:12] <MrHohenheim> this only 1
sapling
L649[08:16:15] <MrHohenheim> 400x400
L650[08:16:22] <Vexatos> CC removed in
1.0.8
L651[08:16:25] <Vexatos> OC added in
1.0.9
L652[08:16:33] <Sangar> :)
L653[08:17:05] <Vexatos> I suggested that
to him
L654[08:17:11] <Vexatos> Maybe some other
people did as well
L655[08:17:33] <Vexatos> But I saw him
removing CC because it continuously searches for Redpower2 being
present
L656[08:17:45] <Sangar> haha, yeah it does
that
L657[08:17:50] <Vexatos> So I told him to
try out OC since it fits into the whole Hardcore pack very
well
L658[08:17:56] <Sangar> that's pretty cool
:)
L659[08:17:57] <Vexatos> (Gregtech,
RotaryCraft etc)
L660[08:18:04] <Vexatos> Perfect for this
modpack
L661[08:18:17] <Vexatos> I wonder if he
enabled GT recipes
L662[08:18:33] <Tahg> continously?
O.o
L663[08:18:39] <Vexatos> Yes
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L665[08:18:49] <Tahg> wierd, how do you
know that?
L666[08:18:52] <Michiyo> But yeah.. if you
can't get anythign else working Sangar I can add a project to my
Jenkins server, and add a user to my web hosting for you guys, I ♥d
the forums heh
L667[08:19:05] <Vexatos> Tahg, he somehow
has to have tested
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L669[08:19:40] <Tahg> hmm, I know it
checks for the presence to add the gemmed tools to turtle crafting
recipes
L670[08:20:02] <Tahg> surprised RP compat
still exists tho
L671[08:20:24] <Sangar> skipped the
'continuously', didn't know that either, but i see the 'checking
for rp blah' on every startup, that's what i meant anyway ^^
L672[08:20:42] <Vexatos> Mmhm
L673[08:20:57] <Vexatos> It somehow did
cause weird lag and RAM eating
L674[08:21:01] <Vexatos> So he removed
it
L675[08:21:01] <Sangar> Michiyo: thanks :)
once dusty comes online (or ir7-o) we'll figure out what to do
next
L676[08:21:13] <Vexatos> Maybe an OC
emulator?
L677[08:21:22] <Sangar> :P
L678[08:30:38] <Kenny> Sangar, got some
news for you
L679[08:30:53] <Kenny> CC can recognize OC
cables
L680[08:31:23] <Sangar> ?
L681[08:31:39] <Kenny> yeah, threw me for
a loop
L682[08:32:22] <Kenny> with the new
Lanteacraft, OC can no longer dial, so i was testing a CC computer
with it and it showed my there was an OC cable beneath the CC
computer
L683[08:33:00] <Sangar> huh
L684[08:33:09] <Tahg> what's it recognize
it as?
L685[08:33:34] <Tahg> and if you have
OpenBlocks in the mix it recognizes most TEs as something at
least
L686[08:33:41] <Tahg> er, OpenMods*
L687[08:33:54] <Sangar> that would make
more sense
L688[08:34:21] <Tahg> I mean, guessing
it's a non-issue, it's not like you're trying to be
incompatible
L689[08:34:27] <Tahg> but it does seem
weird
L690[08:34:44] <Sangar> i think it'd be
amazing, in fact, i just wouldn't expect it
L691[08:34:56] <Kenny> as an OC
cable
L692[08:35:04] <Kenny> posting an image
now
L694[08:36:29] <Vexatos> PeripheralViewer
O.o
L695[08:36:31] <Vexatos> GIVE ME
L696[08:36:33] <Kenny> shows 2
peripherals, a stargate and an oc_cable
L697[08:36:38] <Tahg> the hell is
PeripheralViewer?
L698[08:36:48] <Kenny> a program someone
wrote
L699[08:36:52] <Kenny> for CC
L700[08:37:01] <Vexatos> O:
L701[08:37:01] <Vexatos> :O
L702[08:37:03] <Tahg> OP probably querries
the TE for it's name at least?
L703[08:37:06] <Vexatos> Need to port
it
L704[08:37:09] <Tahg> its*
L705[08:37:23] <Tahg> I wouldn't expect
much more detail than that
L706[08:37:32] <Vexatos> Kenny, someone
needs to port it to OC :O
L707[08:37:42] <Tahg> (assuming oc_cable
is the underlying name for that TE)
L708[08:37:43] <Vexatos> Let me try to
find that program
L709[08:38:00] <Kenny> i had it look at
oc_cable and it crashed, but not before giving some info
L710[08:38:19] <Sangar> oc:cable, but i'm
assuming the : is just converted to a _
L713[08:39:02] <Kenny> that was what i got
when i had it check the cable
L714[08:39:11] <MrHohenheim> hm if i place
generator upgrade to turtle and i pick up the upgrade dropped
L715[08:39:19] <MrHohenheim> thats
normal?
L716[08:39:31] <Tahg> yes, those two
methods are added by OP
L717[08:39:47] <Sangar> yeah, it's part of
the inventory and that isn't stored, so it gets dropped
L718[08:40:01] <MrHohenheim> oke
L719[08:40:08] <MrHohenheim> and this go
to wrench icon?
L720[08:40:21] <Sangar> upgrade goes into
the last slot (arrow)
L721[08:40:30] <MrHohenheim> oh boy time
to mining :D
L722[08:40:33] <Sangar> the wrench slot is
the 'tool' slot. so axes etc
L723[08:40:55] <Sangar> afk teatime
L724[08:40:56] <Vexatos> Look at
that
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L727[08:41:05] <Vexatos> Someone needs to
port THAT to OC
L728[08:41:06] <Tahg> they are
"less" different than CC turtles now (to some degree of
less)
L729[08:41:19] <Vexatos> They gain
experience
L730[08:41:39] <MrHohenheim> i use tic
pickaxe or hammer hmm
L731[08:42:22] <Tahg> alright, bbl
L732[08:42:27] <Vexatos> o/
L733[08:42:57] <Kenny> l8r, Tahg
L734[08:43:12] <Kenny> Vexatos, you mean
because it can place torches?
L735[08:43:42] <Vexatos> Because it's an
awesome strip mining tool
L736[08:44:03] <Kenny> Corey wrote one to
do a 3x3 tunnel which places torches for the robot
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L738[08:49:50] <Kenny> this is really
wild. something has changed with Lanteacraft. CC recognizes the
stargate but the adpater block no longers 'sees' it
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L741[08:52:44] <MrHohenheim> hmm i killed
the robot :/
L742[08:52:57] <MrHohenheim> with
stonehammer cant handle the amber block
L743[08:53:01] <MrHohenheim> ore*
L744[08:55:28] <MrHohenheim> small
darthvader bot
L745[08:57:05] <Sangar> back
L748[08:59:30] <Sangar> before it probably
used the iperipheral interface - which opencomponents can somewhat
wrap. now it seems to use the 'hostedperipheral' approach, which is
basically like the drivers in opencomponents for cc.
L749[08:59:47] <Sangar> and those i can't
wrap (since they're very much internal to cc)
L750[09:00:13] <Michiyo> Ahh, so at this
point, we need to implement OC directly instead of using CC
compat
L751[09:00:30] <Sangar> yes
L752[09:00:55] <Michiyo> I'm sure Lochie
will hate me later :D
L753[09:01:01] <Sangar> ^^
L754[09:01:39] <Kenny> cat fight
hehe
L755[09:01:57] <Kenny> not on here, but
here in the house hehe
L756[09:02:47] <Michiyo> heh
L757[09:02:52] <Michiyo> OCs API any
better these days? :P
L758[09:03:48] *
Kenny keeps mouth shut
L759[09:03:52] <Sangar> :P
L760[09:03:58] *
Kenny doesn't have a clue
L761[09:03:59] <Michiyo> I'm off the next
2 days.. I might try to hack support in and then let Lochie rewrite
it cause I suck.
L762[09:04:17] <Sangar> for tile entities:
a lot, for drivers: somewhat, but it really isn't that different to
what that pool class does anyway.
L763[09:05:09] <Michiyo> Firsto ff I need
to get a working damn Eclipse workspace out of Gradle....
L764[09:05:12] <Sangar> basically: make
ihostedperipheral a managedenvironment and make a driver class
that's basically the factory for those environments.
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L768[09:07:18] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> Its me,
Ir7_o (Adidas)
L769[09:07:26] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> lol
L770[09:07:45] <Sangar> oh! hey. so.
what's the status on the forums?
L771[09:07:52] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> lol
L772[09:07:54] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> arh
L773[09:07:59] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> my bouncer
crashed
L774[09:08:05] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> I moved the
forums to Linux
L775[09:08:11] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> the database
didnt import
L776[09:08:17] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> i need to
redo it.....
L777[09:08:19] <Sangar> happy fun
times!
L778[09:08:20] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> :/
L779[09:08:27] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> i will do it
tomorrow
L780[09:08:32] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> i have the
files tho
L781[09:08:34] <Sangar> as long as the
data isn't lost :P
L782[09:08:36] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> not too
bad
L783[09:08:40] <Sangar> good to hear
:)
L784[09:08:52] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> :D
L785[09:08:56] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> it will be
up soon
L786[09:09:05] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> can you kick
Ir7_o[AWAY]
L787[09:09:10] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> just to fix
the bouncer
L788[09:09:29] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> brb
L789[09:09:41] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> let me close
the bonucner
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L795[09:12:19] <Ir7_o[AWAY]2> bloody
hell
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L798[09:12:35] <Sangar> :P
L799[09:12:37] <Ir7_o> better
L800[09:12:40] <Ir7_o> :P
L801[09:12:47] <Ir7_o> you didnt think it
was me
L802[09:13:16] <Ir7_o> i am now developing
bukkit plugins :3 i wanna start looking at oc code a little
more
L803[09:15:22] <Sangar> i admit i never
had much of a look into bukkit
L804[09:16:38] <Michiyo> I look at bukkit
daily, ♥ MCPC+ :P
L805[09:17:11] <Michiyo> Ugh gradle GIMME
ECLIPSE WORKSPACE
L806[09:19:36] <Kenny> Sangar: i would i
append a name to the word component so it would read as
component.<name>
L807[09:20:26] <Sangar> you mean string
concatenation? "component." .. name
L808[09:20:38] <Kenny> ok. thanks :)
L809[09:21:07] *
Michiyo kills gradle
L810[09:21:58] <Kenny> i actually need it
so it makes the table name. i'm trying to do a component viewer for
OC hehe
L811[09:22:14] <Sangar> nice
L812[09:22:38] <Kenny> the viewer for CC
uses too much stuff i'm unfamiliar with in OC
L813[09:22:51] <Kenny> so i'm trying to
write one of my own
L814[09:24:24] <Vexatos> Good idea
L815[09:24:29] <Kenny> i know how to do
the component.list() and pairs. but trying to place each component
in a table that can be run through pairs() is where i'm
stuck....
L816[09:24:34] <Vexatos> (the CC viewer is
200 lines of code)
L817[09:24:42] <Kenny> 2000 lines
L818[09:24:49] <Vexatos> And metatables
and stuff
L819[09:24:55] <Kenny> i know
L820[09:25:07] *
Vexatos has no clue what a metatable is
L821[09:25:12] <Kenny> and a lot of that
stuff is specific to CC
L822[09:26:49] <MrHohenheim> i hope robot
lava proof
L823[09:26:50] <MrHohenheim> :D
L824[09:27:04] <MrHohenheim> and creeper
blast resistant
L825[09:32:27] <Sangar> come to think of
it, i actually haven't tested creeper blast resistence yet :X
L826[09:32:59] <Kenny> lol
L827[09:33:42] <Kenny> if the hammer could
destroy them way back then i think a creeper might just do it too
:)
L828[09:34:22] <Kenny> time to test
it
L829[09:34:53] <Michiyo> yay, I have dev
workspace
L830[09:35:05] <Tahg> hammer == destroys
EVERYTHING that a pickaxe cna
L831[09:36:27] <Tahg> Kenny, do you want
something like table[key] = value?
L832[09:37:18] <Kenny> one sec
L833[09:37:39] <Kenny> had to switch back
to creative to eleimante noise
L834[09:37:55] <Tahg> or do maybe want
table.append(tableName, value)
L835[09:38:16] <Tahg> which will create a
table suitable for ipairs
L836[09:38:49] <Kenny> what i want to do
is: for k,v in component.list() do comp[k] = v end where comp[k] is
component.<name>
L837[09:39:19] <Kenny> name being whetever
v is so i can run it through ipairs
L838[09:39:40] <Kenny> i didn't explain
that very well :(
L840[09:40:09] <Kenny> i want comp[k] =
component.<v> v being the component
L841[09:40:30] <Tahg> what does
component.list() do (anybody)
L842[09:40:44] <Kenny> lists all of the OC
components
L843[09:40:45] <Tahg> what specifically
does it return, an iterator?
L844[09:41:11] <Tahg> or does it return a
table with a __pairs metamethod?
L845[09:41:23] <Kenny> it returns a table
name i believe (each component)
L846[09:42:07] <Kenny> because if i do
sg=component.<component name> throu ipairs it gives me the
available functions for the component
L847[09:42:47] <MrHohenheim> :D
L848[09:43:27] <Tahg> hmk, so it returns
an iterator function
L849[09:44:51] <Kenny> like i would set
sg=component.stargate then when i do ipairs(sg) i get the functions
available
L851[09:46:06] <Tahg> so, you want to
create a list of all the component names?
L852[09:46:42] <Kenny> in an array/table
so i can go thru that list with ipairs
L853[09:46:42] <Tahg> (types actually I
think)
L854[09:47:51] <Kenny> for k,v in
component.list() do comp[k] = v end for k, v in pairs(comp[k]) do
print(k) ebd
L855[09:47:54] <Kenny> like that
L856[09:48:41] <Tahg> what's wrong with
that?
L857[09:49:04] <Tahg> except it's
pairs(comp)
L858[09:49:08] <Kenny> i get an expected
table got string
L859[09:49:41] <Kenny> because i need to
have the word component at the beginning
L860[09:50:10] <Tahg> but erm, are you
trying to list the fields of the stargate table?
L861[09:50:54] <Kenny> the functions which
i guess would be fields
L862[09:51:13] <Kenny> Robots are not
creeper proof. a creeper will totally destroy it
L863[09:51:39] <Sangar> well that
sucks
L864[09:51:43] <Tahg> ok, I think I
understand now, sec
L865[09:51:56] <MrHohenheim> omg
L866[09:52:38] <Kenny> however, creepers
do not react to them
L867[09:52:53] <Sangar> true. still, i'll
have to do something about that, i don't like it.
L868[09:53:23] <Kenny> damn near got
myself killed in the test lol
L869[09:53:27] <Tahg> try for k, v in
pairs(comp) do for l, w in component.get(k, v) do print(l) end
end
L870[09:54:49] <Kenny> well, no error but
it didn't print anything
L871[09:56:51] <Sangar> not exactly sure
what you're trying to do, but component.get gives you a resolved
address, i.e. a string, so for l,w in that doesn't seem to make
much sense. maybe you meant component.proxy?
L872[09:58:45] <Tahg> maybe...
L873[09:58:51] <Tahg> I've not played with
OC yet
L874[09:59:01] <MrHohenheim> so robot not
lava proof also and not creeper
L875[09:59:11] <MrHohenheim> i hope TC
hungry node not suck in the robot
L876[09:59:19] <MrHohenheim> :D
L877[09:59:22] <Sangar> lava proof it
is
L878[09:59:29] <Tahg> how do you actually
get an arbitrary component?
L879[09:59:53] <Sangar> component.proxy
gives you a wrapper for a component by address
L880[10:00:05] <Sangar> basically like
peripheral.wrap in cc
L881[10:00:36] <Tahg> well, see
L883[10:00:52] <Sangar> and i just
realized it's not on the wiki. i really have to update it... this
weekend. or so.
L884[10:00:54] <Sangar> yeah
L885[10:01:22] <MrHohenheim> so my robot
have tic hammer and cant mine dirt :/
L887[10:02:11] <Sangar> can hammers break
dirt without destroying it?
L888[10:02:23] <Tahg> yes
L889[10:02:33] <Sangar> hmm
L890[10:02:47] <Tahg> but it doesn't
activate it's "hammery" function
L891[10:02:54] <Tahg> it falls back to
single block break
L892[10:03:19] <Tahg> same with any block
that you technically can break by hand, but a pick isn't the proper
tool for
L893[10:03:41] <Sangar> i'll see where it
decides to fail in a sec
L894[10:03:43] <MrHohenheim> i found too
many bugs today?
L895[10:04:18] <Tahg> lol
L896[10:04:18] <Sangar> nah, the day's
still young ;)
L897[10:04:26] <Tahg> only 11 here,
lol
L898[10:04:39] <MrHohenheim> 17:04
L899[10:04:51] <MrHohenheim> good thing i
testing survial mode :P
L900[10:05:03] <Tahg> tho been up 12
hours, so while the day technically may be young, my awakeness in
it is gonna end soon
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L903[10:06:28] <Kenny> and i have to get
busy doing the laundry here in a little while :(
L904[10:07:07] <Kenny> plus do a little
work on my bike to have it ready for warm weather
L905[10:07:56] <Tahg> ya, my fault
(partly)
L906[10:08:27] <Tahg> Sangar, what exactly
does proxy take, an address?
L907[10:08:41] <Sangar> yes
L908[10:08:49] <MrHohenheim> hm if robot
not move just standing still consume energy?
L909[10:09:04] <Sangar> a little bit, yes,
less than computers, though
L910[10:09:09] <MrHohenheim> hmm
L911[10:09:22] <MrHohenheim> 2-3sec 1
energy
L912[10:09:32] <MrHohenheim> -1
L913[10:09:42] <Kenny> and k is the
address
L914[10:09:51] <Kenny> v is the name
L915[10:10:00] <Tahg> v isn't a name
L916[10:10:01] <MrHohenheim> um and how
can i refuel?:)
L917[10:10:11] <MrHohenheim> i have
generator upgrade
L918[10:10:27] <Tahg> well, you can't with
that alone if it's out of power
L919[10:10:58] <MrHohenheim> 8% so have
power
L920[10:11:17] <Kenny> the robot would
also need a consumable fuel (coal, wood)
L921[10:11:18] <MrHohenheim> just i didnt
know the command for refuel :)
L922[10:11:29] <MrHohenheim> i put 1 stack
coal the first slot
L923[10:11:50] <MrHohenheim> or he needs
redstone?:)
L924[10:11:52] <Sangar>
component.generator.insert
L925[10:12:02] <Sangar> also: tc tools
fixed :P
L926[10:12:19] <MrHohenheim> thx:D
L927[10:12:30] <Tahg> is there any sort of
refuel program built in?
L928[10:12:54] <Kenny> MrHohenheim: here
is a program written by Coreymills25 for having a robot dig a 3x3
tunnel, refueling itself and placing rorches:
http://pastebin.com/ZwZf6X36
L929[10:13:04] <MrHohenheim> wow
nice
L930[10:13:07] <Kenny> torches*
L931[10:13:09] <Tahg> rorches
L932[10:13:10] <Tahg> lol
L933[10:13:28] <Tahg> was wondering if
that was a mix of a torch and roach orso =D
L934[10:13:32] <Kenny> i told him English
was my native but i still scewed it up lol
L935[10:13:38] <MrHohenheim> ctrl+v not
works :D
L936[10:13:39] <Kenny> screwed*
L937[10:13:59] <Tahg> it's a bit big for
the default paste size
L938[10:14:12] <Sangar> Tahg: is there any
sort of refuel program built in? no, might add one, though.
L939[10:14:21] <Tahg> needs more default
programs =P
L940[10:14:35] <Tahg> (pastebin would help
if you don't have such a thing)
L941[10:14:49] <Sangar> there is a
pastebin program, actually
L942[10:14:53] <Kenny> he has it in there
:P
L943[10:15:27] <MrHohenheim> i ask manual
refuel
L944[10:15:33] <Sangar> but you need an
internet card (the card mounts a file system with that program and
symlinks it to /bin when installed)
L945[10:15:34] <MrHohenheim> so i do
component.generator at lua
L946[10:15:39] <MrHohenheim> lol XD
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L950[10:17:24] <Tahg> that should
sufficiently replicate CC's refuel program
L951[10:17:28] <BigRenegade> hello
tahg
L952[10:18:15] <Vexatos> Tahg, it
will
L953[10:18:16] <Sangar> it would be a
start :P
L954[10:18:43] <Vexatos> Mind posting that
little program on The repository of OpenComputers?
L955[10:18:45] <Tahg> I think that code
should even compile, lol
L956[10:18:56] <Vexatos> I bet others
would also like to have that
L957[10:19:04] <MrHohenheim> so network
card for robot
L958[10:19:04] <Sangar> oh a propos: vex,
make me a repo there
L959[10:19:18] <Vexatos> A repo at
OpenPrograms?
L960[10:19:28] <Sangar> so i can up my
experiment scripts where people might actually find them :P
L961[10:19:31] <Sangar> yes
L962[10:19:32] <Vexatos> Ok
L963[10:19:48] <Vexatos> You're fnuecke,
right?
L964[10:19:52] <Sangar> yes
L965[10:20:03] <Tahg> feel free to add it,
don't even care about credit it's such a simple program
L968[10:20:44] <Sangar> he sure was
busy
L969[10:20:49] <Vexatos> Tahg, you want
access too?
L970[10:20:54] <Sangar> ah ok,
thanks
L971[10:21:00] <Kenny> Corey?
L972[10:21:04] <Sangar> yes
L973[10:21:19] <Kenny> that function was
in the original Robot script i pasted for MrHohenheim
L974[10:21:30] <Sangar> ah
L975[10:21:37] <Kenny> i just pulled it
out so it would be easy for him to get
L977[10:21:43] <Sangar> short term memory?
what?
L978[10:21:52] <Vexatos> Wasn't me,
MrHohenheim!
L979[10:21:52] <Tahg> um sure
L980[10:21:58] <Vexatos> Sangar edited
that
L981[10:22:02] <Tahg> tho not sure I'll
get into OC soon
L982[10:22:04] <Sangar> robot has no
internet card
L983[10:22:05] <Vexatos> Blame
Sangar!
L984[10:22:10] <Vexatos> Huh?
L985[10:22:21] <Vexatos> I was checking
for component.internet
L986[10:22:22] <MrHohenheim> not network
card need?
L987[10:22:22] <Kenny> MrHohenheim: it
needs an Internet card not network
L988[10:22:24] <Vexatos> WHAT HAVE YOU
DONE
L989[10:22:42] <MrHohenheim> omg my
mistake xD
L990[10:22:50] <Sangar> also, the card is
in the wrong slot :D
L991[10:22:57] <Vexatos> Oh wait
L992[10:22:58] <Tahg> cards can go in any
slot?
L993[10:23:07] <MrHohenheim> and how can i
craft cobweb..
L994[10:23:08] <Sangar> no, anything can
go into the tool slot
L996[10:23:24] <Vexatos> Tahg, do you want
access to OpenPrograms too?
L997[10:23:42] <Tahg> ya, I said
sure
L998[10:23:49] <Vexatos> Ok
L999[10:23:56] <Vexatos> Your github name
is Tahg?
L1000[10:24:15] <Tahg> ya
L1001[10:24:29] <MrHohenheim> if i wanna
craft cobweb i need start witchery this the only option
L1002[10:24:36] <MrHohenheim> or
silktouch sword?
L1003[10:25:00] <Vexatos> Ok, tahg is now
also able to create repos
L1004[10:25:07] <Vexatos> (In the
organization)
L1005[10:26:02] <Tahg> still need to
experiment with them
L1006[10:26:37] <Tahg> (and find out a
definitive answer for my ability to print box drawing
characters)
L1007[10:26:43] <Sangar> hum, i admit i
didn't think that far when making the recipe. it just had to be
'webs' for the internet card :P
L1008[10:26:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, should
I add the basic refuel program tahg wrote to OpenComputers?
L1009[10:27:03] <Tahg> that's minimal
ofc
L1010[10:27:08] <Vexatos> MeHohenheim,
you can get cobwebs
L1011[10:27:13] <Vexatos> with a silk
tough anything
L1012[10:27:22] <Kenny> and regretfully i
have to take off for a while. need to do the laundry and while it
is going work on bike. back in a couple of hours or less
L1013[10:27:23] <Sangar> i'll make the
generator mount an fs (like the internet card), so no(t yet)
L1014[10:27:30] <Tahg> something CC can't
do (in pure lua) is reset the selected slot back to what it
was
L1015[10:27:50] ***
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L1016[10:27:55] <Sangar> see you later
Kenny
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L1018[10:28:08] <Vexatos> MrHohenheim,
use Silk touch shears
L1019[10:28:10] <Tahg> or well, the
turtle API doesn't expose a select() function
L1020[10:28:11] <Vexatos> They will
work
L1021[10:28:24] <Sangar> phew, so i don't
have to change the recipe? :P
L1022[10:28:42] <Vexatos> No
L1023[10:28:46] <Vexatos> Silk touch
shears
L1024[10:28:54] <Vexatos> Those are the
recommended tool
L1025[10:28:55] <Tahg> that's kind of a
PITA for internet
L1026[10:29:08] <Tahg> I guess OC is
meant to be more expensive tho
L1027[10:29:09] <Sangar> it kinda is,
true
L1028[10:29:14] <Vexatos> No
L1029[10:29:19] <Vexatos> Interwebz is
poweful
L1030[10:29:39] <Tahg> granted, I didn't
say hard/expensive, it's not *too* bad
L1031[10:29:41] <Sangar> i'm torn between
'internet is powerful' and 'internet is a convenience'
(pastebin)
L1032[10:29:57] <Tahg> but PITA to
enchant silk touch
L1033[10:29:59] <Sangar> though i think
powerful wins
L1034[10:30:04] <Vexatos> Pastebin
basically removes all the fun
L1035[10:30:10] <Vexatos> For 'normal'
players
L1036[10:30:20] <Tahg> well,
possibly
L1037[10:30:23] <Vexatos> Tahg, not in
modded MC
L1038[10:30:32] <Tahg> with what
mod?
L1039[10:30:46] *
Vexatos coughs
githubrepoexplorermanagerthingiewillremoveallthecodingfunaswell
L1040[10:31:04] <Tahg> I've only seen in
EnchantmentPlus or w/e that mod is, but sadly discontinued
L1041[10:31:47] <Sangar> there'll have to
be some way to get programs onto servers aside from that though, i
think. not sure how, yet, though. basically an improved clipboard
paste. thinking of allowing 'uploading' to the /tmp fs :P
L1042[10:32:23] <Tahg> is clipboard
limited to internal servers?
L1043[10:33:12] <Vexatos> Maybe a local
client storage folder
L1044[10:33:12] <Sangar> no, but to 2k or
so characters to avoid spamming the network too badly. and it can
be slow (when pasting directly to the editor at least, someone
might make a program that directly writes clipboard pastes to
file?)
L1045[10:33:20] <Vexatos> A local folder
in your instance
L1046[10:33:27] <Vexatos> Maybe in
config/OpenCOmputers
L1047[10:33:35] <Vexatos> To put programs
in
L1048[10:33:38] <Vexatos> then run some
program
L1049[10:33:43] <Vexatos> to upload
it
L1050[10:34:10] <Sangar> i think keeping
that in sync would be too ugly (i.e. when the user changes it while
ingame)
L1051[10:34:10] <Tahg> that opens up a
whole host of client side dependencies and nasty interactions
L1052[10:35:28] <Vexatos> Nono+
L1053[10:35:32] <Vexatos> Sangar, once
uploaded
L1054[10:35:35] <Vexatos> it's done
L1055[10:35:44] <Sangar> uploaded to
where, though?
L1056[10:35:50] <Vexatos> Maybe an client
up to upload from the client
L1057[10:35:58] <Vexatos> and client down
to download it back
L1058[10:36:10] <Vexatos>
"Client" being the program name
L1059[10:36:23] <Tahg> uploaded
"to" a mounted fs on the computer
L1060[10:36:32] <Tahg> uploading from,
now that's a better question
L1061[10:37:11] <Sangar> file chooser :P
it just won't work in fullscreen but whatever.
L1062[10:37:40] <Tahg> basically a single
(possibly gzipped) network packet instead of erm, however CTRL+V
works
L1063[10:37:48] <Tahg> does that just
mimic keystrokes?
L1064[10:38:05] <Sangar> its a dedicated
packet
L1065[10:38:50] <Tahg> hmm, not too
spammy then already I'd think?
L1066[10:39:16] <Tahg> if the entire
clipboard is sent as a single string
L1067[10:39:28] <Sangar> hm. i might just
add a 'cooldown' to the clipboard sending...
L1068[10:39:40] <Sangar> then yes, that
might solve the issue just fine.
L1069[10:40:00] <Tahg> what exactly is
the issue?
L1070[10:40:09] <Sangar> clipboard send
on keyrepeat
L1071[10:40:20] <Sangar> big clipboard
-> traffic explosion
L1072[10:40:28] <Tahg> I see
L1073[10:40:52] <Tahg> should be gzipped
anyway IMO, text compresses well
L1074[10:40:58] <Sangar> but yeah, i just
added gzipped packets for the hologram anyway, that plus a forced
delay should do the trick
L1075[10:41:42] <Tahg> holagram is a 3D
thing?
L1077[10:42:00] <MrHohenheim> oke
L1079[10:42:16] <Vexatos> How did you do
that, Sangar?
L1080[10:42:20] <Vexatos> Give
program
L1081[10:42:30] <Tahg> oh wow
L1082[10:42:31] <Vexatos> You now have
OpenProgs access
L1083[10:42:44] <Sangar> that's what i
wanted the repo for, yes ^^
L1084[10:43:32] <Sangar> should i make
one 'experiments' folder where everyone can post snippets or make
my own?
L1085[10:43:38] <Sangar>
folder->repo
L1086[10:44:05] <Tahg> looks kind of what
I'd envision a projector to be, except flat
L1087[10:45:18] <Sangar> it's a 48*32*48
voxel array than can be manipulated arbitrarily.
L1088[10:45:31] <Vexatos> Sangar, you can
call them however you want, maybe
"Sangar-Experimental"
L1089[10:45:44] <Vexatos> Or something
like this
L1090[10:45:49] <Vexatos> Should contain
your name
L1091[10:45:54] <Vexatos> So I know who
it is related to
L1092[10:46:00] <Vexatos> And everyone
else does
L1093[10:46:07] <Sangar> guess i'll go
for Sangar-Programs, since wobbo's is already following that
pattern
L1094[10:46:16] <Vexatos> Ok
L1095[10:46:18] <Tahg> idk how bad the
rendering would be, but a projector would basically be like the
tiered displays, except project onto a wall
L1096[10:46:28] <Vexatos> Well, he just
called the repo "Wobbo", I renamed it :P
L1097[10:46:34] <Sangar> ah :D
L1098[10:46:56] <Sangar> projectors: as a
replacement for multi-block screens, basically?
L1099[10:47:10] <Tahg> and borderless
=D
L1100[10:47:34] <Tahg> cause while I'd
like borderless screens, there's something about the realism that
doesn't quite sit with me
L1101[10:47:55] <Sangar> projectors would
be a cool alternative indeed
L1102[10:48:16] <MrHohenheim> i have now
internet card but pastebin still not works
L1103[10:48:20] <Tahg> the "is
something in the way" would be interesting to pull off
L1104[10:48:41] <Tahg> as well as even
sized screens
L1105[10:48:47] <Sangar> well, mc has a
built-in raytrace method :P
L1106[10:49:00] <Vexatos> O:
L1107[10:49:05] <Sangar> MrHohenheim: is
the card in the right slot?
L1108[10:49:12] <Sangar> i.e. not the
tool slot?
L1109[10:49:12] <Vexatos> MrHohenheim,
you need to restart the robot
L1110[10:49:23] <Vexatos> a.k.a
L1111[10:49:23] <Sangar> he does?
L1112[10:49:32] <Vexatos> "Have you
tried turning it off and on again?"
L1113[10:49:33] <Tahg> in true mc
blockiness, you could do it on a "hit surface"
basis
L1114[10:49:41] <Sangar> it crowd
<3
L1115[10:49:58] <Tahg> lol
L1116[10:50:49] <MrHohenheim> damn file
not found
L1117[10:50:59] <Vexatos> >_>
L1118[10:51:03] <Vexatos> Blame
Sangar!
L1119[10:51:15] <Vexatos> He moved the
program to components/internet
L1120[10:51:17] <Sangar> do an ls /bin,
see if its in there
L1121[10:51:20] <Vexatos> I had it in
rom/bin
L1123[10:51:29] <Vexatos> NOT MY
FAULT
L1124[10:51:36] <MrHohenheim> what did i
wrong again?:D
L1125[10:51:39] <Vexatos> Wait
L1126[10:51:43] <Vexatos> The program
actually ran
L1127[10:51:50] <Vexatos> It ran
L1128[10:52:00] <Sangar> ah, good
point
L1129[10:52:00] <Vexatos> but it was not
able to find that pastebin code
L1130[10:52:05] <Sangar> no
L1131[10:52:11] <Sangar> it wasn't able
to write to `tunnel`
L1132[10:52:16] <Sangar> pwd is / i
guess?
L1133[10:52:30] <Sangar> try either
pastebin get ... tmp/tunnel or cd tmp first
L1134[10:52:31] <Tahg> ofc the file can't
be found if it's trying to write it?
L1135[10:52:55] <MrHohenheim> same for
refuel program
L1136[10:53:03] <Sangar> well that's just
general filesystem error dorkiness. java also throws file not
founds if a file cannot be opened for writing :P
L1137[10:53:03] <MrHohenheim> ok
L1138[10:53:08] <Tahg> well, he tried on
a brandly new started robot
L1139[10:53:31] <Sangar> have a look at
the file system tutorial video perhaps
L1140[10:53:33] <Tahg> oh right, you
can't write to / I assume
L1141[10:53:58] <Sangar> the rom is a
rom. read-only. you can only write to /tmp by default, or a floppy
disk (or hard drive in computers)
L1143[10:54:00] <Tahg> (I really need to
get used to the differences)
L1144[10:54:28] <Tahg> ya, but / is none
of /rom, /tmp, or whatever?
L1145[10:54:39] <Tahg> but I assume it's
basically nothing
L1146[10:54:48] <Sangar> / is where the
rom is moutned at
L1147[10:54:50] <Vexatos> Also, add a -f
to the arguments
L1148[10:54:54] <Tahg> oh
L1149[10:55:31] <Sangar> do `pastebin get
code filename`, you have `pastebin get code filename
anotherFilenameThatConfusesTheProgram`
L1150[10:55:51] <Vexatos> You basically
have to do cd /tmp
L1151[10:55:56] <Vexatos> And then run
the program
L1152[10:56:03] <Vexatos> Then you will
have it in the RAM
L1153[10:56:07] <Sangar> thats the
easiest way, yes.
L1154[10:56:14] <Tahg> you want
tmp/refuel, not refuel tmp/tunnel
L1155[10:56:44] <Tahg> but ya, do what
tehy said =P
L1156[10:57:28] <MrHohenheim> label set
need?:)
L1157[10:57:51] <Michiyo> also.. as soon
as DNS does its thing, ccts.pc-logix.com will direct you to my CC
TS server
L1158[10:57:57] <Michiyo> no need for
ports and crap either..
L1159[10:58:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, I see
you added a repo ;)
L1160[10:58:07] <Michiyo> err
L1161[10:58:08] <MrHohenheim> cd /temp
not in a directory
L1162[10:58:11] <Michiyo> wrong channel
:D
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L1165[10:58:45] <Sangar> i'm cleaning up
the files a little before pushing them :P
L1166[10:58:51] <Vexatos> Ok
L1167[10:58:56] <Sangar> tmp not
temp
L1168[10:59:00] <Vexatos> MrHohenheim, cd
/tmp
L1169[10:59:20] <MrHohenheim> oh god
succes now
L1170[11:00:08] <MrHohenheim> i hope now
if i pick the robot not lost the programs :D
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L1172[11:00:37] <Tahg> think it
will?
L1173[11:00:45] <Vexatos> It will
L1174[11:00:53] <Vexatos> Because you
saved it on the RAM
L1175[11:01:00] <Vexatos> not on any hard
drive
L1176[11:01:03] <Vexatos> or floppy
disk
L1177[11:01:55] <Sangar> yep. tmp is for
temporary ;) it get wiped when the robot shuts down (that includes
reboots btw)
L1178[11:02:12] <Tahg> reboots of the
world or computer?
L1179[11:02:29] <Vexatos> Computer
L1180[11:02:40] <Vexatos> And breaking of
the computer
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L1182[11:02:54] <Tahg> well, that would
necessarily shut it down I assume =P
L1183[11:02:59] <Vexatos> Chunk-unload
persistent Computers for the win!
L1184[11:03:02] <Vexatos> (Best thing
ever)
L1185[11:03:16] <Tahg> mhm
L1186[11:03:24] <Tahg> I'm seeing less
reasons not to use OC
L1187[11:03:32] <Vexatos> Good
L1188[11:03:38] <Tahg> lol
L1189[11:03:43] <Vexatos> Any more ways
to convince you?
L1190[11:04:02] <Vexatos> You already
have OpenPrograms access for you to dump all your OC programs
on
L1191[11:04:19] <Tahg> idk, the 5.2 is
putting me off still
L1192[11:04:28] <Vexatos> Not that many
changes
L1193[11:04:38] <Vexatos> The _ENV
changed, but that is only for advanced usage
L1194[11:04:45] <Vexatos> The other thing
is the require
L1195[11:04:46] <Tahg> well, I've been
using it
L1196[11:04:55] <Tahg> require isn't
new
L1197[11:05:03] <Tahg> it's just a
missing feature of LuaJ
L1198[11:05:04] <Vexatos> It was not
necessary in CC
L1199[11:05:07] <Vexatos> Yea
L1200[11:05:22] <Tahg> it's not really
necessary now is it?
L1201[11:05:28] <Vexatos> It is
L1202[11:05:35] <Vexatos> require() loads
an API
L1203[11:05:39] <Sangar> define
necessary
L1204[11:05:47] <Vexatos> You need it to
load any API
L1205[11:05:50] <Vexatos> or
library
L1206[11:06:02] <Tahg> hmm, so replaces
os.loadAPI then?
L1207[11:06:05] <Tahg> (Sort of)
L1208[11:06:05] <Vexatos> Yep
L1209[11:06:08] <Vexatos> That
L1210[11:06:10] <Sangar> well you can
dofile the libs, too, hence me asking what's 'necessary' ;)
L1211[11:06:14] <Vexatos> Yes
L1212[11:06:34] <Tahg> ya, in terms of
what you can do in pure lua, didn't seem to be
L1213[11:06:42] <MrHohenheim> lol
L1214[11:06:44] <Vexatos> Tahg, to load
an API, type >apiname = require("apiname")
L1215[11:06:46] <Tahg> os.loadAPI was
just pure lua too
L1216[11:06:57] <Tahg> as was a large
part of os
L1217[11:06:58] <Vexatos> Oh, and
localize it
L1218[11:07:04] <Vexatos> >local
apiname = require("apiname")
L1219[11:07:15] <Vexatos> Then you can
use all the apiname functions
L1220[11:07:27] <MrHohenheim> so i need
dl again the programs..
L1221[11:07:27] <Tahg> as if they were
local?
L1222[11:07:32] <Vexatos> Yes
L1223[11:07:38] <Vexatos> Like,
apiname.doStuff()
L1224[11:07:54] <Tahg> hmm
L1225[11:07:58] <Vexatos> And you usually
do all the requires at the very beginning of a program
L1226[11:08:01] <Vexatos> like Java
imports
L1227[11:08:08] <Tahg> I'm still trying
to get a "class like" structure in lua
L1228[11:08:40] <Vexatos> Oh, you want to
check out Wobbo's OOC then
L1230[11:08:59] <Vexatos> Object
orientated Lua
L1231[11:09:27] <Vexatos> (read the
README)
L1232[11:09:59] <Vexatos> Tahg ^
L1233[11:11:07] <Tahg> hmm
L1234[11:11:24] <Tahg> I'll still
probably work on my own, lol
L1235[11:12:20] <Sangar> hehe. i think
there are more implementations of object orientation in lua than of
anything else :P (i.e. variation count)
L1236[11:12:36] <Vexatos> Yea
L1237[11:12:43] <Tahg> ya
L1238[11:12:45] <Vexatos> Because it is
the one thing people are missing in it
L1239[11:13:07] <Vexatos> Because it is
neither a full programming language nor just a scripting
language
L1240[11:13:25] <Tahg> the reason I was
messing around with environments was to try and get around
prepending everything with self.
L1241[11:13:35] <Tahg> (which gets
annoying after a while)
L1242[11:14:02] <Tahg> making the local
function environment = the class object was (hopefully) my
fix
L1243[11:15:11] <Tahg> I'm still not
quite sure the scope of _ENV either
L1244[11:16:27] <Sangar> are you familiar
with the concept of upvalues?
L1245[11:16:29] <Vexatos> Tahg, might you
upload that refuel program to github?
L1246[11:16:50] <Sangar> if so: the first
upvalue named _ENV is used as the environment.
L1247[11:17:10] <Sangar> first as in
first one found while searching from most local to most
global
L1248[11:17:38] <Sangar> also, in case
you didn't see Vexatos: test programs for hologram are up
L1249[11:17:54] <Vexatos> Yea
L1250[11:17:59] <Vexatos> "OPEN
COMPUTERS"
L1251[11:18:38] <Sangar> !
L1252[11:18:45] <Vexatos> i
L1253[11:18:53] <Sangar> _.
L1254[11:19:08] <Vexatos> -.
L1255[11:19:23] <Sangar> ,/
L1256[11:19:25] <Vexatos> I have an
idea
L1257[11:19:38] <Vexatos> I upload the
refuel program to OpenPrograms/Tahg-Programs
L1258[11:19:41] <Vexatos> And pretend to
be him
L1259[11:19:45] <Vexatos> >:D
L1260[11:20:09] <Tahg> so something like
cls.funcName = function(...) _ENV = cls return func(...) end --
this should work right?
L1261[11:21:00] <Tahg> where cls is my
class object and funcName, func are a k, v from my class type
L1262[11:21:42] <Sangar> yes
L1263[11:22:28] *
Vexatos wants a refuel program natively in OC
L1264[11:22:30] <Tahg> cool, I was
already doing function closures, so this change isn't actually that
bad
L1265[11:23:31] <Sangar> Vexatos: yes
yes, there are only that many things i can do simultaneously
:P
L1266[11:23:42] <Vexatos> May I make
one?
L1267[11:23:54] <Tahg> been trying to
rewrite this class lib so I can rewrite my GUI lib
L1268[11:24:41] <Vexatos> Like CC
version: refuel inserting from slot one, refuel <number>
inserting from a specific slot and refuel all inserting everything
that can be used
L1269[11:24:45] <Sangar> if you want to
write the program, please do. i'll add the dynamic fs to the
generator in a bit.
L1270[11:25:14] <Vexatos> dynamic
fs?
L1271[11:25:20] <Vexatos> Ah, that
internet thingie
L1272[11:25:25] <Vexatos> just for
generators
L1273[11:25:25] <Sangar> exactly
L1274[11:25:29] <Vexatos> k
L1275[11:25:47] <Sangar> just running it
would return the number of items in the generator?
(generator.count)
L1276[11:26:00] *
Vexatos open SciTE
L1277[11:26:11] <Vexatos> Sangar,
right
L1278[11:26:13] <Vexatos> Ok
L1279[11:26:24] <Vexatos> Then refuel
<num> and refuel all
L1280[11:26:51] <Tahg> hmm, I have
another special feature request for sometime
L1281[11:27:08] <Tahg> actually, hmm
maybe I can do this already
L1282[11:27:25] <Vexatos> How much can a
generator hold, Sangar?
L1283[11:27:32] <Sangar> one stack
L1284[11:27:34] <Sangar> so up to
64
L1285[11:27:38] <Sangar> of the
same
L1286[11:27:50] <Sangar> so if there's
coal in there you can't also add saplings
L1287[11:27:50] <Vexatos> Ok
L1288[11:27:58] <Vexatos> And insert will
return false
L1289[11:28:01] <Vexatos> right?
L1290[11:28:01] <Sangar> yes
L1291[11:28:09] <Vexatos> What will it
return as error messages
L1292[11:28:12] <Tahg> ya, nm was wanting
something that can not use power on a per computer/world
basis...but I can just use a creative ThermEx cell
L1293[11:28:28] <Sangar> maybe even with
a message, can't remember :P
L1294[11:28:40] <Vexatos> It will
according to the wiki
L1295[11:28:49] <Sangar> great
L1296[11:28:58] <Vexatos> Not sure which
messages, though
L1297[11:29:06] <Vexatos> Those need to
be documented
L1298[11:29:24] <Tahg> well, you know Vex
it's not like OC is open or anything, so you can't totally just
look it up in the source =P
L1299[11:29:38] <Vexatos> I am just doing
that >:>
L1300[11:29:49] <Tahg> (not that source
generally stops me)
L1301[11:29:56] <Tahg> JD-Gui is my
friend
L1302[11:31:30] <Vexatos> Sangar
L1303[11:31:38] <Tahg> well, Slow said go
for it (for using OC)
L1304[11:31:38] <Vexatos> Should I check
for component.generator?
L1305[11:31:47] <Tahg> and he was
considering adding it to some pack
L1306[11:31:49] <Vexatos> Or shall I
pretend that there already is a dynamic fs
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L1308[11:32:15] <Sangar> eh?
L1309[11:32:31] <Sangar> the program
shouldn't care for the fs
L1310[11:32:37] <Sangar> that'll just be
where it lives
L1311[11:33:11] <Vexatos> No, I
mean
L1312[11:33:11] <Sangar> does 1ms
cooldown per char for the clipboard sending sound reasonable? (1000
chars 1 sec)
L1313[11:33:25] <Vexatos> Yea
L1314[11:33:29] <Vexatos> What I meant
was
L1315[11:33:35] <Vexatos> If you add
dynamic fs to the generator
L1316[11:33:50] <Vexatos> refuel will
only be present if the generator is
L1317[11:33:59] <Vexatos> So I won't need
to check for component.generator, right?
L1318[11:34:22] <Sangar> ah
L1319[11:34:23] <Sangar> yeah
L1320[11:34:31] <Tahg> eh, you still need
to *get* the generator tho?
L1321[11:34:34] <Sangar> also
component.generator will just throw an error if there's no
generator there
L1322[11:34:39] <Tahg> so don't see how
it makes much diff
L1323[11:34:50] <Tahg> wait what?
L1324[11:34:59] <Tahg> bah, doesn't
return nil?
L1325[11:35:13] <Sangar> it's a shorthand
for component.getPrimary, and that's checked
L1326[11:35:34] <Vexatos> Found
them
L1327[11:35:34] <Sangar> if you need to
know if it's there use component.isAvailable
L1328[11:36:03] <Tahg> hrm...I see
component.invoke is missing from the component page too
L1329[11:36:10] <Vexatos> Ok, but I don't
in this case due to dynamic fs
L1330[11:36:35] <Sangar> i probably
forgot everything in kernel.lua
L1331[11:36:53] <Tahg> kernel.lua?
L1332[11:36:58] <Vexatos> The core of
OC
L1333[11:37:03] <Tahg> does some
component stuff live there?
L1334[11:37:04] <Vexatos> The OS
L1335[11:37:07] <Sangar> kinda like cc's
boot.lua or what it was called
L1336[11:37:31] <Sangar> the low-level
semi-native stuff is in there, yes
L1337[11:37:37] <Tahg> ComponentAccess
apparently has more detail
L1338[11:37:41] <Sangar> that includes
the basics of the components, yes
L1339[11:37:57] <Tahg> hrm, what does
semi-native mean?
L1340[11:38:15] <Sangar> it wraps the
native stuff and adds a couple of pure lua methods
L1341[11:38:22] <Tahg> ah
L1342[11:38:45] <Tahg> ya, that's what
boot did, although that was pure lua
L1343[11:39:10] <Tahg> setup the lua part
of os, and was responsible for finding startup IIRC
L1344[11:41:35] <Sangar> well kernel.lua
itself is obviously also pure lua :P but it's the only thing that
has 'direct' access to the native stuff
L1345[11:41:51] <Sangar> afk for a
bit
L1346[11:42:01] <Tahg> ah
L1347[11:42:17] <Tahg> bios.lua, that's
what it was called in CC
L1348[11:42:52] <Tahg> has a lot of stuff
that I didn't think was strictly lua, (like pairs and ipairs)
L1350[11:44:33] *
Tahg compares
L1351[11:44:37] <Vexatos> I added the
error strings
L1352[11:50:57] <Tahg> erm
L1353[11:51:01] <Tahg> ya I see
that
L1354[11:51:07] <Tahg> I was comparing
kernel to bios
L1355[11:51:29] <Tahg> definitely totally
different
L1356[11:52:07] <Tahg> CC is definitely
less sandboxy, but I'm not sure how much of that is LuaJ
related
L1357[11:58:43] <Tahg> anyway, going out
for a bit (meant to 6 hours ago)
L1358[11:58:47] <Sangar> back. cc can do
a lot more of the sandboxing directly in java. jnlua
(c<->java glue) pushes LuaErrors when things go wrong,
though, which is userdata, which doesn't persist, so i do what i
can directly in lua.
L1359[11:58:50] <Tahg> and then time to
try OC when I return
L1360[11:59:02] <Sangar> see you :)
L1361[11:59:17] <Vexatos> Sangar, is
there something like the java equalsIgnoreCase in Lua?
L1362[11:59:25] <Tahg> userdata doesn't
persist, or it causes the whole lua state to not persist?
L1363[11:59:48] <Tahg> there's that in
java?
L1364[11:59:49] <Sangar> builtin? i don't
think so. you'll probably have to a:lower() == b:lower()
L1365[12:00:12] <Sangar> userdata doesn't
persist
L1366[12:00:36] <Vexatos> lower
lowercasifies everything?
L1367[12:00:44] <Sangar> not without
special handling anyway (per type of userdata and aaah)
L1368[12:00:54] <Sangar> yes
L1369[12:01:01] <Tahg> what else would it
do?
L1370[12:01:39] <Sangar> if you expect
unicode stuff you may want to unicode.lower(a) == unicode.lower(b)
instead
L1371[12:01:47] <Vexatos> By the way,
what's the difference between a . and a : in function calls?
L1372[12:02:14] <Vexatos> No, I just want
to have the "all" from "refuel all" to be not
case sensitive
L1373[12:02:18] <Tahg> : is syntatic for
adding a self param in
L1374[12:02:31] <Vexatos> What does that
mean? :D
L1375[12:02:32] <Tahg> ie a:b() =
a.b(a)
L1376[12:02:37] <Vexatos> Ah
L1377[12:02:39] <Vexatos> Thanks
L1378[12:02:47] <Vexatos> So it uses
itself as a parameter
L1379[12:02:48] <Vexatos> Nice
L1380[12:02:48] <Tahg> basic lua =P
L1381[12:02:52] *
Vexatos no basic lua
L1382[12:03:00] <Vexatos> ;D
L1383[12:03:26] <Tahg> next up:
metatables =D
L1384[12:04:02] <Tahg> I had sworn I had
seen __pairs in lua 5.2, but maybe I was mistaken
L1385[12:04:30] *
Vexatos has no clue what metatables are either
L1386[12:05:49] <Kenny|AFK> i use pairs()
to get function names
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L1388[12:07:34] <Vexatos> Uhm, if I do
local args = shell.parse(...) and no arguments were inserted,
args[1] will be nil, right?
L1389[12:07:41] <Vexatos> Or will it be
an empty string?
L1390[12:07:57] <Sangar> should be
nil
L1391[12:08:03] <Vexatos> Ok
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L1393[12:12:07] *
Tahg curiously looks for the native part of the OC lua
L1394[12:12:14] <Tahg> (not finding it
tho)
L1395[12:12:35] <Tahg> oh, in server
ofc
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L1397[12:14:35] <Tahg> and technically I
see no java in there, but oh well
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L1399[12:21:36] <Kenny|AFK> he rograms
using Scala
L1400[12:21:40] <Kenny|AFK>
programs*
L1401[12:33:59] <Sangar> Vexatos: fs for
generator is up, with a stub for the refuel.lua
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L1403[12:34:43] <Vexatos> Ok
L1404[12:35:48] <Vexatos> I am almost
done, only printUsage left.
L1405[12:35:50] <Kenny|AFK> Sangar: you
know how when you do the component.list() and get the components?
then you do sg=component.stargate so you can do a pairs on
it?
L1406[12:37:07] <Kenny|AFK> i am trying
to take that list printed out by component.list() and instert the
values into a table prepending component to them so i can them do a
for loop on that table with the pairs
L1407[12:38:22] <Kenny|AFK> where i'm
having a problem is that the value is a string variable and i can't
create a table for pairs that way
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L1409[12:38:54] <Sangar> err, i guess
something like list = {} for address in component.list() do
table.insert(list, component.proxy(address)) end
L1410[12:39:28] <Kenny> ok. i'll try
that. thanks
L1411[12:39:36] <Sangar> that gives you
the proxy (table representing the component) for each connected
component
L1412[12:42:28] <Vexatos> I hope this
works, haven't tested
L1413[12:42:36] <Vexatos> :|
L1414[12:43:42] <Kenny> that did it
:)
L1415[12:44:42] <Sangar> testing is
overrated!
L1416[12:44:46] <Sangar> Kenny: glad to
hear that :)
L1417[12:45:07] <Kenny> why is testing
overrated?
L1419[12:45:18] <Vexatos> I am not sure
whether that works
L1420[12:46:13] <Sangar> because writing
unit tests is an utter pain in the behind
L1421[12:46:42] <Vexatos> Argh
dangit
L1422[12:46:46] <Vexatos> forgot an
equals sign
L1423[12:46:47] <Vexatos> >_>
L1424[12:46:48] <Sangar> for the args[1]
nil check, maybe just do #args == 0 or so?
L1425[12:47:29] <Vexatos> Well, it checks
for 'refuel' without any arguments
L1426[12:47:35] <Vexatos> Oh, right
L1427[12:47:38] <Vexatos> I can edit
that
L1428[12:48:21] <Vexatos> Anything
else?
L1429[12:48:59] <Sangar> maybe just do
tostring(args[1]) ~= nil instead of the match?
L1430[12:49:01] <Sangar> er
L1431[12:49:02] <Sangar> tonumber
L1432[12:49:03] <Sangar> -.-
L1433[12:49:18] <Vexatos> It returns nil
if it can't be turned into a number?
L1434[12:49:23] <Sangar> yes
L1435[12:49:23] <Vexatos> Nice.
L1436[12:49:45] <Vexatos> Anything
else?
L1437[12:49:47] <Sangar> also, =
"all"
L1438[12:49:52] <Vexatos> Yes
L1439[12:49:57] <Vexatos>
<Vexatos> Argh
dangit
L1440[12:49:57] <Vexatos>
<Vexatos> forgot
an equals sign
L1441[12:50:01] <Sangar> ah, thought
you'd meant the = nil
L1442[12:50:12] <Vexatos> Heh
L1443[12:50:23] <Vexatos> So, anything
else left?
L1444[12:50:34] <Sangar> looks good i
think
L1445[12:50:39] <Vexatos> Ok
L1446[12:50:47] <Sangar> well, indent the
prints in printusage :P
L1447[12:50:58] <Sangar> and the
printusage in else :P
L1448[12:51:05] <Sangar> ah ok
L1449[12:51:10] <Sangar> already done i
see
L1450[12:51:37] <Vexatos> Yea
L1451[12:51:42] <Sangar> well some tiny
things, but i'll adjust those, will be quicker
L1452[12:51:45] <Vexatos> I miss auto
indent of eclipse :P
L1453[12:51:48] <Vexatos> Ok
L1454[12:52:02] <Vexatos> The joy of
OpenSource
L1455[12:52:04] <Vexatos> \o/
L1456[12:52:06] <Sangar> :)
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L1460[12:54:41] <Sangar> meh, insert
errors o.O why did i do that
L1461[12:54:55] <Vexatos> ?
L1462[12:55:07] <Vexatos> Because of
pastry fork
L1463[12:55:35] <Vexatos> And because of
NotEnoughErrorsExceptions
L1464[12:58:29] <Sangar> also, the
numeric parameter should the number of items to insert, no? (not
the slot)
L1465[12:58:42] <Sangar> at least the
parameter for insert is the count, not the slot ^^
L1466[13:02:11] <Vexatos> It should be
the slot it inserts from
L1467[13:02:20] <Vexatos> Oh, it
is?
L1468[13:02:22] <Vexatos> Oops
L1469[13:02:28] <Vexatos> How do I select
a certain slot?
L1470[13:02:57] <Vexatos> Then, please
let me re-do it, I need to change stuff
L1471[13:04:42] <Sangar> it might
actually be nice if 'refuel n' would add or remove n items. so
refuel -10 would remove 10 items from the generators internal
'queue'
L1472[13:05:02] <Vexatos> May I re-do
it?
L1473[13:05:16] <Vexatos> I can change it
to refuel <slot> [amount]
L1474[13:05:25] <Vexatos> So you can
specify an amount
L1475[13:05:25] <Sangar> go for it
L1476[13:05:26] <Sangar> :)
L1477[13:05:29] <Vexatos> Ok,
thanks
L1478[13:05:47] <Vexatos> Do I need to
require the robot API?
L1479[13:05:53] <Sangar> robot.select, to
answer your earlier question btw
L1480[13:05:55] <Sangar> yes
L1481[13:06:06] <Vexatos> Ok
L1482[13:06:25] <Vexatos> Yea, already
found it in the (pretty good) documentation :)
L1483[13:07:17] <Kenny> Sangar, that
worked to allow me to make a list of all components attached to a
computer.....
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L1485[13:08:40] <Kenny> now all i have
tpo do is make the fancy looking screen and fixt it so that it will
do the lists separately. i.e. print just the attached components,
and when it is selected show the available functions
L1486[13:09:02] <Sangar> sounds
great
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L1488[13:10:50] <Vexatos> O:
L1489[13:11:24] <Kenny> then we have a
component viewer for OC :)
L1490[13:13:24] <Vexatos> Sangar, to
completely fill it, should I do g.insert() or
g.insert(64-g.count()) ?
L1491[13:13:40] <Kenny> that will have to
wait till a little latre, need to get ready to go out and do the
bill pay and most of the monthly shopping :)
L1492[13:14:11] <Sangar> g.insert()
L1493[13:16:55] <Vexatos> Ok
L1494[13:19:09] <Vexatos> A question,
will g.remove(0) return false or true?
L1495[13:23:26] <Sangar> false i
think
L1496[13:23:48] <Vexatos> Ok thanks
:)
L1497[13:24:00] <Sangar> yep, will return
false
L1498[13:24:04] <Sangar> insert(0) will
return true however
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L1500[13:25:43] <Vexatos> Ok
L1502[13:50:47] <Vexatos> I hope that
works
L1503[13:50:53] <Sangar> we'll see
:D
L1504[13:51:40] <Vexatos> Now you can do
refuel <slot> <amount>
L1505[13:51:46] <Vexatos> Or refuel
<slot>
L1506[13:51:49] <Vexatos> Or refuel
L1507[13:51:51] <Vexatos> or refuel
all
L1508[13:51:52] <Vexatos> :D
L1509[13:52:21] <Symmetryc> Vexatos,
Wobbo told me that you were the person to go to to be admitted into
the OpenPrograms group
L1510[13:53:06] <Vexatos> Yup
L1511[13:53:15] <Vexatos> You want to
dump your programs there as well?
L1512[13:53:24] <Vexatos> What's your
github usename?
L1513[13:53:25] <Kenny> Sangar: quick
question: can i switch one table to another simply saying buffer =
theme?
L1514[13:53:26] <Symmetryc> I'd like to,
yes
L1515[13:53:42] <Symmetryc> My GitHub
name is simply Symmetryc
L1516[13:54:00] <Symmetryc> I can also
provide qualifications if you need that kind of stuff to be part of
the group
L1517[13:54:19] <Vexatos> No
L1518[13:54:25] <Vexatos> Just a better
alternative to pastebin
L1519[13:54:26] <Symmetryc> Okay,
cool
L1520[13:54:28] <Kenny> he don't need no
stinking qulaifications
L1521[13:54:29] <Vexatos> a more
organized one
L1522[13:54:31] <Vexatos> Yea
L1523[13:54:37] *
Vexatos has no qualifications at all
L1524[13:54:45] <Kenny> lol
L1526[13:54:56] <Symmetryc> I wasn't sure
because all the members were private and all
L1527[13:54:57] <Symmetryc> :P
L1528[13:55:10] <Vexatos> If it is a
general file dump
L1529[13:55:20] <Vexatos> call it
Symmetryc-Programs
L1530[13:55:32] <Vexatos> If it is a
larger project that deserves its own repo, go ahead
L1531[13:56:27] <Vexatos> Symmetryc
^
L1532[13:56:49] <Vexatos> So, I have to
go sleep now
L1533[13:56:52] <Vexatos> have fun at the
repos!
L1534[14:04:35] <Sangar> Vexatos: looking
better, adjusting a little now :)
L1535[14:05:11] <Sangar> Kenny: not sure
what you mean, but i *think* the answer is yes
L1536[14:05:52] *
Tahg has returned
L1537[14:11:11] <Vexatos> Good
night!
L1538[14:11:15]
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L1539[14:15:14] <^v> night
L1540[14:26:53] <Coreymills25> heyy
all
L1541[14:28:13] <gjgfuj> How is OC
updated to 1.7 when UE isn't?
L1542[14:29:11] <Coreymills25> because OC
isnt depended on UE it can use a few different power systems
L1543[14:29:53] <Coreymills25> u just
wont be able to use UE with it untell UE updates
L1544[14:30:28] <gjgfuj> So, what other
power systems can it use?
L1545[14:30:40] <Coreymills25> buildcraft
ic2
L1546[14:30:58] <Coreymills25> TE
L1547[14:31:10] <gjgfuj> It can use them
without UE?
L1548[14:31:21] <Coreymills25> yep
L1549[14:34:13] <Tahg> I've heard UE on
1.7 is coming soon tho
L1550[14:34:35] <Tahg> no idea on any
suppliers tho
L1551[14:35:49] <Kenny> Tahg, Calc was in
just before you this morning talking about taking UE to 1.7
L1552[14:36:46] <Sangar> errr correction:
oc can't use other power systems without ue, but it can run fine
without power (stuff just doesn't use power then)
L1553[14:39:16] <Tahg> you don't directly
support any other APIs?
L1554[14:39:30] <Tahg> (I hear RF is a
popular one these days =D)
L1555[14:40:16] <Tahg> MFR, TE,
ExtraUtils all produce native RF power
L1556[14:43:50] <Symmetryc> Sangar:
Crap
L1557[14:44:04] <Symmetryc> Sangar: Can
you create a repo for me in the OpenPrograms group?
L1558[14:44:44] <Kenny> Tahg, OC will use
Te's RF power using the power convertor
L1559[14:44:47] <Sangar> it's pretty
convenient to just have ue do all the conversion :P
L1560[14:45:22] <gjgfuj> Calclavia said
that UE was coming next week.
L1561[14:45:35] <gjgfuj> So not too long
to wait for that.
L1562[14:47:06] <Sangar> Symmetryc:
created the repo, can you push to it?
L1563[14:47:14] <Sangar> not sure about
the rights system on github :P
L1564[14:51:53] <Tahg> ya, I'm not moving
from 1.6 for some time, so I don't really have to worry
L1565[14:52:48] <Tahg> the best way to
not worry about power for a single network is to just slap a
creative cell on it I assume?
L1566[14:57:00] <Sangar> yeah
L1567[14:57:17] <Kenny> this is the one
thing i hate about lua. i can't set up an arrays. it only uses
tables
L1568[14:58:53] <Sangar> but tables *are*
arrays :/
L1569[14:59:34] <Tahg> tables are also
hashmaps
L1570[14:59:36] <Symmetryc> Sangar: Not
sure how to use this whole organization thing yet...
L1571[14:59:54] <Symmetryc> Tahg: Depends
what kind you're talking aobut
L1572[14:59:56] <Symmetryc> *about
L1573[14:59:57] <Kenny> i put a number
value in a table now when i try to get that number value it keeps
telling me trying to index
L1574[15:00:10] <Sangar> orgas: me
neither :P
L1575[15:00:38] <Tahg> code Kenny?
L1576[15:00:40] <Sangar> you do know
indexes in lua start with 1 (not 0)?
L1577[15:00:51] <Sangar> otherwise that
may be the problem :)
L1578[15:01:02] <Tahg> Symmetryc, are
there multiple kinds/
L1581[15:01:51] <Kenny> and i started it
with a 1
L1582[15:02:17] <Tahg> what particular
part of that?
L1583[15:02:54] <Kenny> the last part
where it is printing out the list using compLenFuncs
L1584[15:03:05] <Kenny> the 2 fopr
statements at the end
L1585[15:03:32] <Kenny> compListFuncs is
a table of the length of each compList
L1586[15:03:42] <Symmetryc> Tahg:
Hashmaps can be distinct/indistinct
L1587[15:03:55] <Kenny> it's a list of
numbers
L1588[15:04:09] <Kenny> there erro occurs
on line 50
L1589[15:04:34] <Tahg> um, idk like a
java hashmap <.<
L1590[15:04:34] <Sangar> compLenFuncs = b
<-
L1591[15:04:36] <Kenny> attempt to index
local compLenFUncs a number value
L1592[15:04:43] <Sangar> b is a
number
L1593[15:04:51] <Sangar> so compeLenFuncs
is a number after that. not a table.
L1594[15:04:55] <Kenny> so is
compLenFuncs[a]
L1595[15:05:11] <Symmetryc> Hashmaps
aren't lists, they have key/value pairs
L1596[15:05:44] <Tahg> was that to
me?
L1597[15:06:22] <Kenny> to Sangar: he
said b is a number but so is the value stored in
compLenFuncs[a]
L1598[15:06:39] <Tahg> no, compLenFuncs
is a number
L1599[15:06:47] <Tahg> therefore calling
[a] on it is invalid
L1600[15:06:59] <Symmetryc> Tahg: That
was to anyone who says otherwise :P
L1601[15:07:01] <Kenny> comLenFuncs is a
table created above
L1602[15:07:13] <Sangar> line 45
L1603[15:07:19] <Tahg> until you assinged
it the value of b, which is a number
L1604[15:07:20] <Sangar> it's not a table
anymore after that
L1605[15:07:48] <Kenny> then how do i get
that number back out of the table
L1606[15:07:59] <Sangar> what
number?
L1607[15:08:14] <Tahg> you didn't put a
number in the table
L1608[15:08:19] <Tahg> you replaced the
table with a number
L1609[15:08:20] <Kenny> compLenFUncs is a
table of numbers
L1610[15:08:37] <Tahg> until you totally
got rid of the table, by assigning a number to it
L1611[15:09:01] <Kenny> i didn't assign a
number to it, the value of it is the max value in the for
loop
L1612[15:09:02] <Tahg> variables can
change types
L1613[15:09:06] <Sangar> Kenny: what do
you *expect* to do in line 45?
L1614[15:10:06] <Kenny> i have compList
which is a list of the components. compListFuncs is a list of the
funcs. compLenFuncs is a table of the length of the function list
for each component
L1615[15:10:43] <Kenny> so
compLenFuncs[a] should be a number of value
L1616[15:11:30] <Kenny> nothing. that was
the whole problem i'm thinking
L1617[15:11:50] <Tahg> I'm not sure why
you store lengths at all
L1618[15:12:01] <Kenny> it was
L1619[15:12:21] <Kenny> Tahg, I've only
been programming in lua for around 3 weeks.
L1620[15:12:22] <Tahg> you do know you
can get the length of a table you're using as a list right?
L1621[15:13:25] <Kenny> this is why i
like arrays. i can make them more than one dimensional
L1622[15:13:44] <Tahg> you can with
tables too
L1623[15:13:45] <Kenny> and i don't know
squat about tables
L1624[15:13:57] <Kenny> i'm just learning
the language
L1625[15:14:02] <Sangar> just think of
them as arrays and you're good ;)
L1626[15:14:18] <Kenny> don't work like
that cause i can't manipulate themthe same
L1627[15:14:26] <Sangar> also, #table
gives you the number elements in it (as long as theres no 'nil' in
the sequence)
L1628[15:15:21] <Kenny> but each
component has a different length of functions, how am i going to
insert the component name into the table and the function names
also
L1629[15:15:41] <Kenny> so that the
functions ONLY match that component
L1630[15:17:06] <Tahg> here, lemme help
you out a bit, gimme a minute
L1631[15:17:13] <Kenny> i don't have a
clue, so i created a table of the components, a table of the
functions adding in the component name, and now i'm using the
component table to create a menu where you can select the component
and it will then give you a list of the functions for it
L1632[15:17:52] <Symmetryc> Kenny: I'll
implement arrays in Lua
L1633[15:17:58] <Symmetryc> If that
helps
L1634[15:19:37] <Kenny> i want to learn
lua, but i can NOT learn from reading a book. i need code that does
what i'm thinking of to look at and see how it works
L1635[15:20:01] <Kenny> that was why
using edit.lua made it so easy for me to pick up on reading the
keyboard strokes
L1636[15:20:16] <Kenny> reading the lua
documentation wasn't helping me at all
L1637[15:23:45] <Kenny> see i look at the
documentation, try what they show and keep getting errors. The only
person i now who knows lua good is Sangar, and i hate to bother him
all the time about it
L1638[15:24:27] <Kenny> so i keep trying,
keep getting errors and get more and more frustrated
L1639[15:24:49] <Symmetryc> Hmm, does
anyone know __ipairs metamethod specifications?
L1640[15:24:55] <Kenny> i know what i
want to do can be done, just don't know HOW to do it
L1641[15:26:00] <^v> Symmetryc, it
doesnt
L1642[15:26:07] <^v> there is none
iirc
L1643[15:26:25] <^v> its just a function
that uses pairs
L1645[15:27:10] <Tahg> just did it on
pastebin, so lemme know if it errors
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L1647[15:27:24] <Tahg> and ask if there's
any (or all) of it you don't understand
L1648[15:29:52] <Kenny> unexpected symbol
near ) on line 29
L1649[15:30:29] <Symmetryc> ^v: In the
official Lua site it says __ipairs has been added though...
L1651[15:31:08] <^v> then it probably
goes __ipairs=function(table) return iterator_function end
L1652[15:31:23] <Tahg> yep, extra ) on
that line
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L1654[15:32:17] <Kenny> well, it runs,
but it is just a list of nil values
L1655[15:33:04] <Tahg> hmm
L1656[15:33:37] <Tahg> right, duh
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L1658[15:35:18] <Kenny> i see what you
are doing though Tahg. I should be able to work with it.
L1659[15:35:19] <Tahg> ok, refresh, I
changed lines 47 and 48
L1660[15:35:37] <Tahg> just hadn't fixed
up the print
L1661[15:37:55] <Tahg> fixed that stray )
too
L1662[15:38:13] <Kenny> attempt to call
local compListFuncs (a table value)
L1663[15:38:29] <Tahg> oops, indeed
L1664[15:38:36] <Kenny> oon line 47
L1665[15:38:37] <Tahg> the (comp) should
be [comp]
L1666[15:39:31] <Kenny> that worked
:)
L1667[15:39:31] <Tahg> (this is what I
get for not testing in lua)
L1668[15:39:49] <Kenny> but it was an
easy fix :)
L1669[15:39:56] <Tahg> yep
L1670[15:39:59] <Kenny> thanks Tahg, i
can work with that
L1671[15:40:19] <Tahg> that gives pretty
much the whole gamet of useful table functions
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L1673[15:40:44] <Kenny> sister finally
got home so i can go pay bills and do shopping. going to be gone
for about 2-3 hours
L1674[15:41:10] <Kenny> thanks, I'll look
over it more tonight and work on building that component viewer
:)
L1675[15:42:30] <Kenny> i appreciate you
taking and Sangar taking the time to help me
L1676[15:42:40] <Kenny> talk to you all
later
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L1678[15:45:18] <Symmetryc> Sangar: Can
you create a random file in the repo you made for me? I can't start
it up it appears
L1679[15:45:27] <Symmetryc> After that I
think you can just transfer ownership
L1680[15:46:06] <JZTech101> hey Kenny|AFK
can I get voice? :3
L1681[15:47:12] <Symmetryc> Sangar: Nvm,
I think I got it...
L1682[15:47:27] <Symmetryc> Sangar: Nvm
to that, I don't have it...
L1683[15:48:49] <Sangar> i tried the
transfer ownership thingy, told me i can only transfer it to myself
:P
L1684[15:48:52] <Sangar> give me a
second
L1685[15:49:07] <Symmetryc> Alright, I'll
just tell Vexatos later then I guess
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L1687[15:52:15] <Sangar> Symmetryc:
pushed an empty readme in there, don't know if that'll help
L1688[15:52:25] <Sangar> anyway, i'll be
away for a bit
L1689[15:58:13] <JZTech101> o hey Sangar
can I haz voice in here?
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L1697[17:56:02] <Kenny|AFK> hey, back
from spending monmey and guess what....
L1698[17:56:25] <Kenny|AFK> got a nedw
keyboard with bigger keys, might help me type better lol
L1699[17:56:36] <Kenny|AFK> then again
maybe not hehe
L1700[18:07:31] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, I
got the memory limiting on the emulator to work :D
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L1704[18:38:52] <Symmetryc> Hello
L1706[18:40:47] <Symmetryc> Oh crap
you're afk
L1707[18:40:51] <Symmetryc> Lol
sorry
L1708[18:43:41] <SpiritedDusty> Symmetryc
whats native lua?
L1709[18:45:05] <Symmetryc> Normal
Lua
L1710[18:45:07] <Symmetryc> LuaC
L1711[18:45:17] <Symmetryc> Lua without
the JIT and without the J :P
L1712[18:47:17] <Kenny|AFK> nah, Kenny is
just hiding and relaxing after runing arouind fore 2 hours
L1713[18:47:49] <Kenny|AFK> and a new kb
didn't seem to help my typing one damn bit
L1714[18:48:12] <Kenny|AFK> the damn
thing even has bigger keys!
L1715[18:48:28] <Kenny|AFK> and i still
can't type for shit
L1716[18:49:16] *
JZTech101 wonders if Kenny|AFK will give him voice (pretty
pweasE)
L1717[18:49:38] <Kenny|AFK> nope
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L1719[18:49:42] <JZTech101> :<
L1720[18:49:45] <JZTech101> why?
L1721[18:49:58] <Kenny> there is a reason
the 2 new people have voice
L1722[18:50:10] <JZTech101> which
is?
L1723[18:50:27] <Kenny> in cal case if
you don't know i need to DiNozzo you
L1724[18:50:44] <Symmetryc> Kenny: Did
you look at the link
L1725[18:51:20] <Kenny> but Tah-g has
cause I know hoim very well and he is a former bukkit dev as well
as part of FTB
L1726[18:51:26] <Kenny> yep
L1727[18:52:21] <Kenny> Those that have
voice in here are devs.
L1728[18:52:38] <Kenny> with the
exception of me
L1729[18:53:08] <Kenny> but i'm a
co-founder so i rate :P
L1730[18:53:42] <SpiritedDusty> I ain't a
dev Kenny
L1731[18:53:53] <Kenny> Dusty, you run
the forum
L1732[18:54:14] <Kenny> and i did say
those with VOICE :P
L1733[18:54:17] <SpiritedDusty> that
reminds me… Ir7_o, when can we fix the forums ;_;
L1734[18:54:20] <Kenny> you have OP
L1735[18:54:21] <SpiritedDusty> oh right
:P
L1736[18:55:26] <Kenny> not only that i
was informed that you should be an op a while back. just had to
teach you a little something hehe
L1737[18:55:55] <SpiritedDusty>
>.>
L1738[18:56:09] <SpiritedDusty> I was… a
bit depressed that day
L1739[18:56:55] <Kenny> didn't mean to
depress you you, but you were jumping straight into tings an OP
doesn't normally handle, the founder/co-founders do
L1740[18:57:02] <Kenny> things*
L1741[18:57:44] <SpiritedDusty> eh
whatever, I leaned to not mess with flags :P
L1742[18:58:10] <Kenny> there is a
difference between setting flags and setting channel modes
L1743[18:58:32] <Symmetryc> Kenny: Did
you look at the array.lua ._. took me some time to figure that
out...
L1744[18:58:34] <Kenny> flags give a
person more control of thre channel and what can be done in
it
L1745[18:59:08] <Kenny> yes i did, Sym.
didn;t mean to ignore you. wanted to make sure i had time to
understand it hehe
L1746[18:59:25] <Symmetryc> Ah,
okay
L1747[18:59:30] <Kenny> and it has me
totally lost lol
L1748[18:59:37] <Symmetryc> I can explain
if you want me to
L1749[19:00:40] <Kenny> that would help.
cause i sincerely do not understand the operation of that
function
L1750[19:01:05] <Symmetryc> Alright, well
the file returns a function that takes one argument
L1751[19:01:08] <Kenny> i'm assuming it
will do what i was trying to do earlier
L1752[19:01:20] <Symmetryc> That is a
table that you use as an array
L1753[19:01:34] <Symmetryc> So you'd do
local array = require "array.lua"
L1754[19:01:42] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar,
do components get attached right away on boot or is there a
delay?
L1755[19:02:00] <SpiritedDusty> oh he's
away
L1756[19:02:04] <Kenny> Dusty, should
attach on boot
L1757[19:02:15] <SpiritedDusty> oh
L1758[19:02:18] <Symmetryc> Alright
Kenny, I'll just send you an explanation in a convo so that it
won't junk up the channel...
L1759[19:02:18] <Sangar> almost back,
catching up on stuff, be right with you ^^
L1760[19:02:41] *
SpiritedDusty remembers tech support… "Please wait while we
get a representative"
L1761[19:06:15] *
JZTech101 dinozzos Kenny
L1762[19:06:25] <Sangar> allright. so
first: awesome thing you got the memory limits to work in the
emulator :) vex will be thrilled :D
L1763[19:06:41] <Sangar> as for the
components, they're there in/before the boot.
L1764[19:06:45] *
JZTech101 wonders what dinozzo means
L1765[19:07:00] <Sangar> that's why in
init.lua there's that loop that generates the component signals for
those.
L1766[19:07:23] <SpiritedDusty> oh
L1767[19:08:21] <SpiritedDusty> so
components on the Java side are attached right away but init.lua
"pretends" its just getting attached?
L1768[19:09:30] <Sangar> yes. if
components are added/remove while the computer is running, those
signals will be generated by the host side, but for components
added while the computer is off they're not (no signals are
generated / accepted while its off)
L1769[19:09:43] <SpiritedDusty> ah ok
thanks
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L1771[19:26:58] <Kenny> Sangar, i'm going
to say good night now cause i may not be here when you finally go
to bed hehe
L1772[19:27:19] <Sangar> i'm about to go,
so yeah, good night :)
L1773[19:27:38] <Kenny> my leg is
bothering me from all the walking and i'm beat
L1774[19:27:56] <Kenny> thought you might
get there before 4am tonight hehe
L1775[19:28:15] <Kenny> see you when you
get up :)
L1776[19:29:30] <Sangar> heh, yeah :) see
you then!
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L1795[23:11:31] <ShadowKatStudios>
Afternoon o/
L1796[23:12:19] <ShadowKatStudios>
Anything interesting happening anywhere?
L1797[23:20:42] <mallrat208> not
here
L1798[23:23:01] <Michiyo> I'm going to
try to get a OC Driver implementation working in LanteaCraft
stargates... is that interesting?
L1799[23:23:16] <Michiyo> There will be
lots of profanities...
L1800[23:23:20] <mallrat208> I should try
LanteaCraft
L1801[23:24:08] <Michiyo> Indeed you
should!
L1802[23:24:22] <Michiyo> we have new RCs
being built now too
L1804[23:24:48] <mallrat208> I've
previously used sgcraft.. made a dialing computer with
computercraft to control entry exit and a small forcefield
L1805[23:25:52] <Michiyo> very little of
SGCraft remains in our codebase these days heh
L1806[23:26:23] <mallrat208> Only thing I
ever really missed was the option to power the gate using power
from a mod like Buildcraft, Thermal Expansion, IC2, or say
Mekanism.
L1807[23:26:38] <Michiyo> Which we are
currently implementing
L1808[23:27:13] <mallrat208> You have my
thanks then.. that was the only thing that ever really frustrated
me
L1809[23:27:19] <Michiyo> heh
L1810[23:27:59] <Michiyo> Right now as of
build 16, gates use no power at all.. lol they WILL take power from
select mods, OR you charge a Energy Crystal in a naquadah
generator, and place it in the DHD which provides the power to the
gate
L1811[23:28:01] <mallrat208> actually,
that's not true.. the other thing that bugged me was the way the
chevrons lit up, but thats mostly because I've no life.
L1812[23:28:13] <Michiyo> AND we've fixed
that too :p
L1813[23:28:37] <Michiyo> the only thing
that DOESN'T happen is the top chevron engaging then disengaging
when locking other chevrons
L1814[23:28:46] <Michiyo> which Lochie
said he's gonna try to get working one day
L1815[23:31:21] <Michiyo> Anyone here
implemented OC drivers for their mod? :D
L1816[23:33:37] <mallrat208> Wish I could
help
L1817[23:37:28] <ShadowKatStudios> If
anyone is thinking about making an OC expansion mod, I'd like to
request a tape drive with a read and write function, and space for
1024 strings of 1024 characters. (alternatively, one string of
1024*1024 characters per tape)
L1818[23:41:11] <mallrat208> It doesn't
look like it should actually be that horrible to add OC calls...
hmm
L1819[23:41:34] <mallrat208> Of course
this is stated half on ignorance and half on caffeine and half on
bad math
L1820[23:41:44] <Michiyo> lol
L1821[23:42:31] <Michiyo> good thing is
my other developer added an API that CC currently calls, so I
should just be able to use OC's driver to call the same API
methods..
L1823[23:52:12] <mallrat208> (Many things
are possible with ignorance :p )
L1824[23:52:22] <mallrat208> Anyway, I
hope you have some luck getting that sorted out
L1825[23:52:28] <Michiyo> heh
thanks
L1826[23:52:34] <Michiyo> and thanks for
the link
L1827[23:53:00] <Michiyo> I've gotta
figure out how to implement it via the API and not in the TE
directly so this will take some playing
L1828[23:54:16] <mallrat208> Hmm
L1830[23:57:05] <Michiyo> I'll take a
look thanks