<<Prev Next>> Scroll to Bottom
Stuff goes here
L1[00:44:58] ⇨
Joins: Vexatos
(~Vexatos@p5B31FC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L2[00:47:50] ⇨
Joins: Wired98
(~root@c-75-72-220-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
L3[00:48:03] ***
Wired98 is now known as Wired2coffee
L4[01:16:28] ⇨
Joins: asie
(~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl)
L5[01:41:02] ⇦
Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit:
Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
L7[02:46:50] <Cisien> ShadowKatStudios, no,
the peripheral interface isn't available
L8[03:22:22] ⇨
Joins: asie
(~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl)
L9[03:26:15] ***
Lathanael|Away is now known as Lathanael
L10[03:46:31] ***
alekso56_off is now known as alekso56
L11[03:47:34] ⇦
Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p5B31FC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Read
error: Connection reset by peer)
L12[03:48:18] ⇨
Joins: Vexatos
(~Vexatos@p5B31FC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L13[03:48:29] ⇨
Joins: Sangar1
(~Sangar@178-26-83-11-dynip.superkabel.de)
L14[03:51:16] ⇦
Quits: Sangar (~Sangar@178-26-87-157-dynip.superkabel.de) (Ping
timeout: 380 seconds)
L15[03:55:01] ⇦
Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit: I'll
probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)
L17[04:01:25] ⇨
Joins: mallrat208 (Mibbit@68.204.184.175)
L18[04:01:27] ⇨
Joins: asie
(~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl)
L19[04:08:53] ***
SLEEPING is now known as MrHohenheim
L20[04:34:55] ⇦
Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit: I'll
probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)
L21[04:45:26] ⇨
Joins: Din (~DinFer@92.36.254.6)
L22[04:50:55] ⇨
Joins: Sorroko
(~Sorroko@cpc15-chms4-2-0-cust140.20-1.cable.virginm.net)
L23[04:52:37] ***
LordFokas|off is now known as LordFokas
L24[05:07:02] ⇨
Joins: asie
(~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl)
L25[05:17:07] ***
alekso56 is now known as alekso56_off
L26[05:51:48] ⇨
Joins: Wobbo
(~Wobbo@5ED58A7C.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
L27[05:51:49] zsh
sets mode: +v on Wobbo
L28[05:57:38] <Wobbo> Kenny! What is wrong,
are you ill?
L29[06:02:36] ***
alekso56_off is now known as alekso56
L30[06:05:30] <JZTech101> Kenny you
around?
L31[06:06:05] <Wobbo> Doesn't look like it
:P
L32[06:06:15] <JZTech101> lol
L33[06:06:17] <Wobbo> Then that is prop the
reason he didn't greet me :P
L34[06:06:24] <JZTech101> :p
L35[06:06:29] <Kenny> i wasn't feelinh well
yesterday
L36[06:06:45] <Kenny> and i just got iup
:P
L37[06:06:52] ⇨
Joins: Sangar
(~Sangar@178-26-79-92-dynip.superkabel.de)
L38[06:06:52] zsh
sets mode: +o on Sangar
L39[06:06:56] <JZTech101> Kenny and today?
:p (better?)
L40[06:07:11] <Kenny> was talking to iChun
about when he was coming back
L41[06:07:29] <Kenny> feeling quite a bit
better at the moment
L42[06:07:55] <JZTech101> O good, that
means you can try out my pack now
L43[06:07:58] ⇦
Quits: Sangar1 (~Sangar@178-26-83-11-dynip.superkabel.de) (Ping
timeout: 186 seconds)
L44[06:08:00] <JZTech101> ;p
L45[06:08:01] <Kenny> Afternoon,
Sangar
L46[06:08:54] <Wobbo> Is everybody building
a pack or something?
L47[06:09:28] <Kenny> all the time, whether
just for themself or tpo pass around :P
L48[06:09:47] <Forecaster> Minecraft: The
Pack Building Simulator
L49[06:09:48] <Forecaster> :P
L50[06:09:50] <Kenny> in my case though, i
do it beta testing OC with other mods
L51[06:10:23] <Kenny> seeing what can be
controlled with an OC computer
L52[06:12:09] <Wobbo> I still have to test
my energy program…
L53[06:13:32] <Kenny> i found out yesterday
i'm definitely going to have to build an OC server to handle
everything i'm trying to do hehe
L54[06:14:08] <JZTech101> So.. Playing
around with BotC?
L55[06:14:10] <JZTech101> :p
L56[06:15:37] <Kenny> not yet, i was
finishing off a program i was writing that was a request and found
out that mulitple OC computers hooked on the same cable have a
tendency of not working the way you expect
L57[06:17:08] <Kenny> you have
C1xxxxxxxxxC2xxxxxxxxxC3 C1 is off and the other 2 are on, turn on
C1 nd you might find the cursor fot it show on C2 and the keyboard
is at C3
L58[06:17:26] <JZTech101> :o
L59[06:17:28] <JZTech101> Lol
L60[06:17:56] <JZTech101> You could always
finishing writing within BotC :p
L61[06:18:41] <Kenny> do you have any idea
what mods i was working with to write that prgram?
L62[06:18:46] <Kenny> program*
L63[06:19:08] <Kenny> the one mod you don't
have in BotC
L64[06:19:15] <JZTech101> o,o
L65[06:19:19] <JZTech101> What mod?
L66[06:19:24] <Kenny> LantaeCraft
L67[06:19:29] <Michiyo> woot woot
L68[06:19:32] <Michiyo> :p
L69[06:19:34] <Kenny> LanteaCraft*
L70[06:19:36] <JZTech101> Ah
L71[06:19:45] <Kenny> hi Michiyo :)
L72[06:19:48] <JZTech101> The stargate
mod
L73[06:19:48] <Michiyo> o/
L74[06:20:03] <Kenny> I got Minerva's
security program working hehe
L75[06:20:04] <Michiyo> The BEST Stargate
mod :p
L76[06:20:11] <JZTech101> :p
L77[06:20:28] <Kenny> i think it is
L78[06:20:44] <Kenny> and I saw Lochie's
OOps lol
L79[06:20:50] <Michiyo> lolol
L80[06:20:53] <Michiyo> yeaaaaah
L81[06:22:08] <JZTech101> I might add it as
an optional mod, (its an open license right?)
L82[06:22:17] <Kenny> i now have a program
for an OC computer for Minerva that will control it. If an incoming
gate is started it will turn on an MFFS force field around the
gate
L83[06:22:18] <Michiyo> Yeah
L84[06:22:25] <JZTech101> Ok
L85[06:22:54] <Kenny> the only way to shut
it off is with a remote or the computer on the other side of the
force field hehe
L86[06:23:26] <JZTech101> Which mFFS are
you using?
L87[06:23:34] <Kenny> Calclavia's
L88[06:23:39] <asie> Calclavia's is the
best
L89[06:23:45] <asie> Immibis's is horribly
bugged
L90[06:24:16] <JZTech101> Right, so I can
tnt a nice hole and walk in
L91[06:24:17] <Kenny> there is a 3rd outh
there that is still true to ThunderDark's original
L92[06:24:54] <JZTech101> MFFS has this
thing where it slowly regens the forcefield without speed
upgrades
L93[06:25:09] <JZTech101> You can literally
TNT a hole and walk in
L94[06:25:25] <Kenny> that's Calclavia's
version
L95[06:25:32] <JZTech101> Yeh
L96[06:25:57] <Kenny> Minalien is
maintaining ThunderDark's original
L97[06:26:04] <JZTech101> Asie immibis was
a port of the FIRST mffs
L98[06:26:07] <asie> yes, I know
L99[06:26:09] <asie> but it's horribly
bugged
L100[06:26:09] <JZTech101> What did you
expect?
L101[06:26:11] <JZTech101> Lol
L102[06:26:12] <Kenny> so you have 3
verisions of it
L103[06:26:33] <Kenny> if Immibis is doing
one too
L104[06:26:38] <asie> he's not,
really
L105[06:26:43] <asie> he's just porting it
from every MC version to another
L106[06:26:46] <asie> but he doesn't even
maintain it anymore
L107[06:26:51] <JZTech101> I only want or
care about MFFsv3 :D
L108[06:27:16] <JZTech101> Especially
since I'm on very good terms with Calc
L109[06:27:26] <Kenny> why would i want a
force field system that can be broken thru
L110[06:27:58] <JZTech101> Kenny, add
speed upgrades :p
L111[06:28:03] <asie> Kenny: that's
exactly what I want
L112[06:28:12] <asie> because an
unbreakable forcefield == torture
L113[06:28:18] <asie> what if a griefer
steals your stuff into a forcefield
L114[06:28:26] <JZTech101> Kenny, tbh I
use MFFSv3 for a battle arena
L115[06:28:29] <asie> you can't even fight
back
L116[06:28:31] <JZTech101> More than
anything else
L117[06:29:04] <JZTech101> MFFS never
reallysuited me to protect my entire basr
L118[06:29:14] <JZTech101> Too resource
intensive
L119[06:30:02] <asie> I decided to try
using pngout to reduce asset sizes in mods
L120[06:30:06] <asie> my modpack went from
61MB to 54MB
L121[06:30:10] <Kenny> now both of you
have said you wanted the fun days of 1.2.5, have you not?
L122[06:30:20] <JZTech101> I have
L123[06:30:21] <asie> well, to an extent
yes
L124[06:30:27] <asie> but I don't want
things that stop other people from having fun
L125[06:30:35] <asie> I've always been
against WorldGuard for that sole reason
L126[06:30:47] <JZTech101> But MFFS wasn't
that big in 1.2.5 afaik
L127[06:30:56] <Kenny> then Cal's version
wasn't even around then and Thunderr's was the only way to go for
MFFS
L128[06:30:58] <asie> it wasn't big at
all
L129[06:31:08] <asie> Kenny: It's not
about making a 1.2.5 modpack in 1.6.4
L130[06:31:19] <asie> it's about making a
fun modpack in 1.6.4 that is inspired by 1.2.5
L131[06:31:24] <asie> a spiritual
successor, if you could call it that
L132[06:31:32] <JZTech101> Kenny, the
problem is MFSv2Classic is no longer being maintained
L133[06:31:41] *
Kenny is having fun pulling chains today hehe
L134[06:31:41] <JZTech101> Min is work on
MFFSv3
L135[06:32:10] <JZTech101> Yes Min is
calling his rewrite of MFFSv2 MFFSv3
L136[06:32:28] <JZTech101> >_>
L137[06:32:30] <Kenny> why shouldn't
he
L138[06:32:46] <JZTech101> It causes
confusion
L139[06:32:48] <Kenny> Calc called his
v2
L140[06:32:52] <Kenny> didn't he
L141[06:32:56] <JZTech101> No...
L142[06:33:53] <Kenny> it might cause
confusion but in this case i have to lay that on Calc. because a
new version of Thunder's would naturally be a progression to
v3
L143[06:34:28] <Kenny> so for Calc to
deliberate call his 2nd version v3 was not right
L144[06:34:58] <JZTech101> No... He called
it v3 because he took over v2
L145[06:35:15] <JZTech101> So.. After 2
comes 3
L146[06:35:47] <Kenny> if you check
ThunderDark;s original IC2 page for MFFS he habded it to Minalien
not Calc
L147[06:35:55] <Kenny> handed*
L148[06:36:09] <JZTech101> He first handed
to calc
L149[06:36:22] <JZTech101> After calc
madeit closed source
L150[06:36:34] <JZTech101> Thunderdark
gave it to searge
L151[06:36:42] <asie> OpenComputers takes
2 seconds to preInit
L152[06:36:42] <JZTech101> But calc still
has full rights
L153[06:37:46] <Kenny> then Calc doesn't
have full rights...
L154[06:37:51] <asie> why not?
L155[06:38:01] <asie> you cannot make laws
apply to the past
L156[06:38:10] <asie> all Thunderdark
could do is forbid Calc from using any future versions
L157[06:38:10] <Kenny> when he went
against Thunder's open source policy he lost the rights to it
L158[06:39:33] <JZTech101> He handed full
rights to thunderdark
L159[06:39:46] <JZTech101> Calc*
L160[06:40:03] <Kenny> and it is not
closed source
L161[06:40:05] <JZTech101> There was
nothing wrong with what calc did
L162[06:40:31] <JZTech101> Just that
public outrage :\
L163[06:41:28] <Kenny> i know ThunderDark,
if he handed the rights to Calc it was with the stipulation that it
remain open source
L164[06:41:48] <Kenny> Calc violated that
if he made it closed source
L165[06:42:20] <Kenny> a vilation of that,
legally, is a breach of contract and the rights revert back to
Thunderdark
L166[06:42:53] <Kenny> Calc lost them when
he made it closed source, if he did make it closed
source......
L167[06:43:07] <Kenny> since i have the
link to the MFFS git page
L168[06:44:01] <JZTech101> And at any
rate, even if that was the case,MFFSv3 no longer uses any code of
v2
L169[06:44:08] <JZTech101> It is the
spiritual successor
L170[06:45:30] <Kenny> i wonder what Calc
would do if i forked MFFS
L171[06:46:42] <JZTech101> Nothing
L172[06:46:52] <JZTech101> Why would he do
anything?
L173[06:47:28] <Kenny> i don't?
L174[06:47:41] <Kenny> i know Calc
hehe
L175[06:48:04] <JZTech101> i know him too
:p
L176[06:51:41] <Kenny> i'm trying to find
the link to a tools mod that was written for UE back in 1.4.5 by
Earslya (ap?)
L177[06:53:31] <Michiyo> Kenny, are you
able to talk in #Lanteacraft..?
L178[06:54:55] <Wobbo> Did you see that
someone ported the JVM to Computercraft? O_o
L179[06:57:57] <JZTech101> O,O
L180[06:58:01] <JZTech101> Link?
L182[06:59:56] <Michiyo> I wanna say
ds4812 or w/e his name is was playing with it
L183[07:00:06] <Michiyo> 84182.. lol
L184[07:02:20] <Kenny> that's going to
need a lot of memory to run
L185[07:02:34] <Wobbo> propably
L186[07:02:44] <Wobbo> I'm going
L187[07:02:47] <Wobbo> later
L188[07:02:49] <Kenny> l8r
L189[07:02:54] <JZTech101> Later
L190[07:03:06] ⇦
Quits: Wobbo (~Wobbo@5ED58A7C.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) (Quit:
Wobbo)
L191[07:04:50] <Kenny> considering i have
a mod pack with 113 mods that uses 3.1GB of the 4GB i allocated to
ajva for MC
L192[07:05:07] <Kenny> i haven't looked to
see how much BotC uses up
L193[07:06:11] <asie> yay
L194[07:06:17] <asie> after adding all of
the optimization/compression measures
L195[07:06:22] <asie> my modpack is now
50MB as opposed to 60MB
L196[07:06:26] <asie> a very worthwhile
improvement
L197[07:06:48] <asie> and that's with no
quality loss at all anywhere
L198[07:11:07] <asie> wait a
minute...
L199[07:11:43] <asie> hmm, everything
seems to be fine
L200[07:12:04] *
Kenny looks at the word seems hehe
L201[07:15:32] <asie> yeah, i had to fix a
bug in my penultimate ZIP/PNG optimization script
L202[07:21:25] <JZTech101> Kenny 2GBa work
fine for BotC here :p
L203[07:22:44] <Kenny> do you understand
that java will take more memory to run if it needs it. you can
allocate 2GB and it will run fine, but java may actually be using
more than the 2GB aloocated
L204[07:25:46] ***
AngieBLD|Off is now known as AngieBLD
L205[07:26:00] <Kenny> \o
L206[07:29:00] ⇦
Quits: ShadowKatStudios
(~chatzilla@c211-31-42-102.rochd5.qld.optusnet.com.au) (Ping
timeout: 190 seconds)
L207[07:36:54] <JZTech101> :o
L208[07:37:33] <JZTech101> Kenny, then why
do people get "out of memory" errors and incrrasing
allocatsd size fixes that?
L209[07:53:51] <Kenny> out of memory is
when the computer won't let it have any more hehe
L210[07:54:19] <Kenny> or the prson
running it is becoming senile and their is a loss of memory
lol
L211[07:54:52] <Michiyo> if you set xmx
then the JVM shouldn't be able to use more RAM.
L212[07:55:20] <Michiyo> :P
L213[07:55:51] <Kenny> i know, had to do
that with my old system. java kept taking more than i wanted it
to
L214[08:46:41] ***
JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther is now known as
JoshTheEnder
L215[08:56:58] <JZTech101> Kenny: you
aroud?
L216[09:06:29] <Kenny> now i am
L217[09:06:48] <JZTech101> Kenny: What
about including GregTech as an optional mod?
L218[09:06:53] <JZTech101> rather than a
default mod
L219[09:07:51] <Kenny> that would work if
you are talking single player, but i'm not going to let someone
install it for server and force others to use it who mya not want
to
L220[09:08:00] <Kenny> may*
L221[09:08:16] <JZTech101> I won't bother
including it in the server pack
L222[09:08:26] <JZTech101> it'll be an
optional mod via the FTB launcher
L223[09:08:59] <JZTech101> At least I
think thats how FTB works o.o
L224[09:09:04] <asie> it doesn't
L225[09:09:04] <Kenny> not only that, when
you do a pack for the FTB launcher you have to include a special
set of configs i think
L226[09:09:07] <asie> only AsieLauncher
can do that
L227[09:09:31] <JZTech101> Kenny: the
configs for gregtech have been in the pack. I never bothered
removing them lol
L228[09:09:34] <Kenny> asie went and
forked FTB lol
L229[09:09:38] <JZTech101> I said I'd
remove the mod, not the configs
L230[09:09:40] <asie> Kenny: lel
L231[09:09:44] <asie> i wrote my own
launcher from scratch
L232[09:09:59] <JZTech101> asie: no. I
don't mean "include two versions of a server pack"
L233[09:10:01] <Kenny> i forked the FTB
launcher a longt= time ago hehe
L234[09:10:14] <JZTech101> I mean
"include default version of server w/o gregtech"
L235[09:10:24] <JZTech101> it is an
optional mod client side only
L236[09:10:28] <asie> JZTech101: No, you
mean "add a checkbox letting you install GregTech for the
client"
L237[09:10:29] <JZTech101> server side,
its not even an option
L238[09:10:30] <asie> I don't think FTB
does that
L239[09:10:31] <JZTech101> its just not
there
L240[09:10:36] <JZTech101> asie: it
does
L241[09:10:45] <asie> shiny
L242[09:10:55] *
Kenny is clueless. never used the FTB launcher
L243[09:12:06] <Kenny> asie, is your
launcher open source?
L244[09:12:08] <asie> yesh
L246[09:13:07] <Kenny> thanks. i was
curious, because the way they did the ftb launcher, finding where
the download link for the pack came from was so convoluted it
wasn't funny
L247[09:13:57] <asie> Kenny: well here you
have to find the JSON file
L248[09:13:59] <asie> :-)
L249[09:14:07] <asie> and then you need to
parse it to download the files the modpack has
L250[09:14:10] <asie> >:-)
L251[09:14:24] <asie> that allows us to do
delta updates, heavily saving bandwidth on both sides
L252[09:15:10] <Kenny> notepad++ parses
json :P
L253[09:17:26] <Kenny> right now i'm
working at re-writing my stargates code. it works as it is but
editting a stargate address is limited. i'm working on being able
to use the left/right arrows to go back and change a single
char
L254[09:17:57] <Kenny> currently you can
only use the backspace key
L255[09:18:18] <Kenny> time to rape
edit.lua some more
L256[09:21:20] <Kenny> and i have to thank
Sangar for pointing me in that direction. Using his edit lua,
asking a few questions and doing some searching is how i have
learned Lua hehe
L257[09:25:34] ⇦
Quits: Din (~DinFer@92.36.254.6) (Ping timeout: 186
seconds)
L258[09:26:06] <Kenny> JZ, Michiyo and
AfterlifeLochie are the mod developers
L259[09:26:16] <JZTech101> oh ok
L260[09:26:22] <JZTech101> So I credited
the right people
L261[09:26:24] <JZTech101> \o/
L262[09:26:45] <Kenny> but it's
MichiyoRavencroft
L263[09:27:12] <JZTech101> Thats his Mc
name
L264[09:27:14] <JZTech101> lol
L265[09:27:18] <Kenny> her
L266[09:27:19] <JZTech101> or rather
L267[09:27:21] <JZTech101> MCF name
L268[09:27:25] <JZTech101> Kenny: its a
he
L269[09:27:32] <JZTech101> I know him from
before this nick
L270[09:27:34] <Kenny> Michiyo is a
she
L271[09:27:34] <JZTech101> lol
L272[09:27:54] <Kenny> believe me I got
corrected in her about it
L273[09:27:59] <Kenny> here*
L274[09:28:05] <JZTech101> so I hear
L275[09:31:03] <Kenny> JZ, i don't want to
bother Lochie because over the past few days he has come close to
losing everything
L276[09:31:18] <JZTech101> O,O
L277[09:31:20] <JZTech101> What
happened?
L278[09:31:24] <Kenny> fires
L279[09:31:28] <JZTech101> O,O
L280[09:31:52] <Kenny> he lives in an area
where they were one level away from being evacuated into the
sea
L281[09:32:04] <JZTech101> uhh.. holy
shit
L282[09:32:42] <Kenny> there have been
temps over 100 and fires all around in that area
L283[09:33:27] <Kenny> so yeah, not that
it has calmed down and things are under control, i can see no
reason to bother him when he can finally relax from the
stress
L284[09:33:55] <Kenny> and during that
whole time he still took time to work on the mod
L285[09:34:02] <JZTech101> fair
enough
L286[09:34:17] <asie> Sangar: Feature
request - an easy way to add more computing tiers
L287[09:34:37] <Kenny> there are already 5
hehe
L288[09:34:38] <JZTech101> asie: you'd
need textures for that
L289[09:34:42] <asie> JZTech101: Can
do.
L290[09:34:56] <JZTech101> But if Sangar
was to do it.. he'd need to make for everyone
L291[09:34:59] <asie> JZTech101:
Nonono
L292[09:35:01] <JZTech101> including
peopel who can't make textures
L293[09:35:06] <JZTech101> (like
meO)
L294[09:35:10] <asie> What I propose is
this:
L295[09:35:12] <asie> - new config
file
L296[09:35:19] <asie> (for CPU and memory
tiers)
L297[09:35:26] <asie> (as well as graphics
cards and monitors I guess)
L298[09:35:32] <asie> each entry
specifies
L299[09:35:54] <asie> the color (recolored
from a fully white part), the amount/parameters, and the
recipe
L300[09:35:58] <Kenny> currently memory
has 5 (in the config)
L301[09:36:08] <asie> Kenny: the problem
is, I have tons of ores from Metallurgy 3
L302[09:36:15] <asie> and I want to make
them useful for very varied computer tiers
L303[09:36:20] <asie> thus my
proposal
L304[09:36:33] <asie> color (or texture
name), tier parameters, recipe
L305[09:36:37] <asie> if needed, I can add
recipes on my end
L306[09:36:40] <JZTech101> (or get rid of
that mod altogether, but w/e)
L307[09:36:47] <asie> JZTech101:
sure
L308[09:36:55] <asie> then i need to add
tiers for TCon cobalt, ardite and manyullyn
L309[09:36:59] <asie> Ender IO copper and
tin
L310[09:37:01] <asie> etc
L311[09:37:04] <asie> same problem, just
different ores
L312[09:37:05] <JZTech101> ....
L313[09:37:08] <JZTech101> ok
L314[09:37:22] <Kenny> oredict makes them
compatbile across mods
L315[09:37:25] <asie> yes
L316[09:37:38] <asie> the specific reason
I want this is for more variety and letting people use more
ores
L317[09:37:49] <SpiritedDusty> the OC
forums feels so dead :/
L318[09:37:57] <Kenny> hey Dusty
L319[09:37:58] <asie> I would help
implement that, but I can't Scala
L320[09:38:01] <SpiritedDusty> ?
L321[09:38:10] <Kenny> just saying hello
:P
L322[09:38:16] <SpiritedDusty> oh,
hi
L323[09:38:33] <Kenny> oyu haven;'t
noticed i always say hey instead of hi :P lol
L324[09:38:42] <JZTech101> hi
L325[09:38:45] <JZTech101> hey
L326[09:38:47] <JZTech101> hi
L327[09:38:49] <JZTech101> hey
L328[09:38:57] <SpiritedDusty> ^
spam
L329[09:39:06] <Kenny> i don't say hi
cause i wish i were :P
L330[09:39:17] <SpiritedDusty> xD
L331[09:39:32] <JZTech101> lol
L332[09:39:54] <SpiritedDusty> I think it
was the domain name change from opencomputers.net to oc.cil.li that
started making the forums less active
L333[09:40:01] <Kenny> at 57 don't you
thjink i would be an old 'stoner' hehe
L334[09:40:39] <Kenny> opencomputers.net
is still available
L335[09:41:05] <SpiritedDusty> well it
looks as if its available but its not, we don't own it anymore, the
government or something does, according to ir7_o
L336[09:41:50] <Kenny> didn't you know you
pay the gov't to get a domain? that's what the $30-35 a year is
for
L337[09:42:04] <Kenny> it's a lease
agreement with the gov't
L338[09:42:09] ***
JoshTheEnder is now known as
JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther
L339[09:42:15] <SpiritedDusty> I was
thinking of us getting a .io domain but it seems kinda
expensive
L340[09:42:25] <Kenny> same price
L341[09:42:38] <SpiritedDusty> it'd be
pretty cool to have opencomputers.io
L342[09:42:47] <Kenny> they usually ask
for 2 years at the beginning
L343[09:43:04] <Kenny> so $60-70 at first
then $30-35 a year
L345[09:45:49] <Kenny> it tells how to go
about registering a domain name yourself
L346[09:46:04] <Kenny> without going thru
someone like GoDaddy
L347[09:46:21] <SpiritedDusty> hm..
L348[09:46:56] <Kenny> costs shown are US
but shouldn't be hard to figure it out if your's is different
L349[09:47:09] <SpiritedDusty> I don't see
it anywhere showing how to register your own...
L350[09:47:21] <SpiritedDusty> I see a
list of sites of domain registars
L351[09:47:32] <asie> I use ovh
L352[09:47:38] <Kenny> List of domain name
registars
L353[09:48:01] <Kenny> you can choose
which one you want to go through to register
L354[09:50:25]
⇨ Joins: NEO_ (webchat@85.135.8.130)
L355[09:51:07] <Kenny> i see we have a
Matrix fan amongst us hehe
L356[09:51:40] <NEO_> Hi can you help me?
I download it, and want to use power with minecraft 1.7.2, but I
can not find UE for 1.7.2
L357[09:52:09] <Kenny> for the moment you
will need to go in the config and set the option for power to
false
L358[09:52:24] <Kenny> U+E isn't up for
1.7 yet
L359[09:53:15] <Kenny> not sure how soon
Calclavia will have UE available for 1.7
L360[09:54:11] ***
JZTech101 is now known as Everybody
L361[09:54:16] ***
Everybody is now known as JZTech101
L362[09:56:20] ***
Kenny is now known as TheShadow
L363[09:56:42] ⇦
Quits: NEO_ (webchat@85.135.8.130) (Quit: Web client
closed)
L364[10:00:56] ***
TheShadow is now known as Kenny
L365[10:01:29] ***
JZTech101 is now known as Windows
L366[10:01:44] ***
Windows is now known as JZTech101
L367[10:02:27] ***
JZTech101 is now known as Windows
L368[10:02:42] ***
Windows is now known as JZTech101
L369[10:02:50] ***
Kenny is now known as LamontCranston
L370[10:02:59]
⇨ Joins: Din (~DinFer@as58.ob.dlp488.bih.net.ba)
L371[10:03:07] ***
LamontCranston is now known as TheShadow
L372[10:03:46] ***
TheShadow is now known as Kenny
L373[10:05:34] ⇦
Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit: I'll
probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)
L374[10:09:19] <Kenny> son of a
B****
L375[10:09:32] <Kenny> OC computers can
access logipipes
L376[10:10:10] <Kenny> because they have
made logipipes accessible to CC turtles
L377[10:10:51] <JZTech101> and thats
bad?
L378[10:10:53] <JZTech101> o,o
L379[10:12:19] <Kenny> no. that's good. it
means i can do something with logipipes i didn't think i could
lol
L380[10:12:33] ⇦
Quits: Din (~DinFer@as58.ob.dlp488.bih.net.ba) (Read error:
Connection reset by peer)
L381[10:12:38] <JZTech101> so.. why the
"son of a bitch"?
L382[10:12:53]
⇨ Joins: Din (~DinFer@as58.ob.dlp488.bih.net.ba)
L383[10:13:04] <Kenny> because i didn't
know that daveboecki had set it so CC turtles could acess
logipipes
L384[10:13:15] <JZTech101> ok
L385[10:13:17] <JZTech101> o,o
L386[10:13:32] <Kenny> it should allow me
to connect OC robots
L387[10:14:07] <JZTech101> ok
L388[10:17:12] <Kenny> it means that just
connecting a single basic logipipe to a stargate, i can use an OC
turtle to keep the gate supllied with fuel
L389[10:17:24] <Kenny> OC robot*
L390[10:17:43] <Kenny> the pipe recognizes
the robot as a turtle
L391[10:20:39] <JZTech101> Kenny: or just
use asupplier pipe
L392[10:20:44] <JZTech101> :p
L393[10:33:24] ⇦
Quits: Din (~DinFer@as58.ob.dlp488.bih.net.ba) (Read error:
Connection reset by peer)
L394[10:35:00] <Kenny> you're missing the
basis for this. a force field will take out pipe access
L395[10:35:14] <Kenny> plus the gate cuold
be 30 blocks away
L396[10:35:29] <Kenny> from the storage
system
L397[10:35:44]
⇨ Joins: Din (~DinFer@92.36.252.254)
L398[10:36:22] <Kenny> pretty soon Din is
going to change his nick to DangISP
L399[10:40:42]
⇨ Joins: asie
(~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl)
L400[10:41:55] <JZTech101> Kenny: k,
GregTech, Lanteacraft, Carpenters Blocks, Chisel are added as
optional mods
L401[10:41:59] <JZTech101> server and
client side
L402[10:42:02] <JZTech101> :>
L403[10:52:41] <Din> Kenny, what?
L404[10:52:47] <Din> Who is DangISP?
L405[10:54:50] <asie> Sangar: I got a far
easier idea to do the entire "custom memory and CPU
tiers" thing
L406[10:54:51] <Kenny> you keep getting dc
by (connection reset by peer)
L407[10:55:00] <asie> Could you make CPUs
and Memories instances of IMemory and ICPU?
L408[10:55:29] <asie> Graphics Cards,
etc
L409[10:55:38] <Kenny> you do realize that
would mena modifying 2 versions of the mod?
L410[10:55:42] <Kenny> mean*
L411[10:55:45] <Din> oh yea
L412[10:55:48] ***
Din is now known as DangISP
L413[10:55:53] <Kenny> lol
L414[10:55:56] ***
DangISP is now known as DangBhTelecom
L415[10:56:04] <DangBhTelecom> lol
L416[10:56:07] ***
DangBhTelecom is now known as Din
L417[10:56:18] <asie> Kenny: Apparently,
the CPUs and Memories and all do not implement any APIs other than
tooltips, though
L418[10:56:20] <asie> it's all handled
outside
L419[10:56:26] <asie> so instance checks
would have to be replaced
L420[10:56:27] <asie> and that's about
it
L421[10:56:43] <Kenny> but he has a 1.6.4
version and a 1.7.2 version
L422[10:56:54] <Kenny> both would need to
be changed
L423[10:56:58] <Din> mm, time to download
malcolm in middle
L424[10:57:03] <asie> i guess i'll just do
it myself, then
L425[10:59:15] <asie> also,
apparently
L426[10:59:17] <asie> the APIs are already
there!
L427[10:59:17] <asie> woo
L428[10:59:44] <asie> well, for Memory and
Processor types
L429[10:59:46] <asie> but that's not a bad
start
L430[11:04:51] <Kenny> god, i hate having
to remember the hex code for colors
L431[11:09:32] <Din> Does anyone have a
filefactory account ? :]
L432[11:11:02] <Kenny> not me
L434[11:11:50] <JZTech101> Kenny: btw,
could you contact Benimatic for permission? I've decided upon
including TF
L435[11:12:58] <Kenny> ok
L436[11:13:03] <JZTech101> :>
L437[11:13:12] <JZTech101> ty
L438[11:13:19] <Kenny> i need the dang
color names used for bundled cables :(
L439[11:13:32] <Kenny> i'm missing one and
i can't think of what it is
L440[11:14:04] ⇦
Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit: I'll
probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)
L441[11:18:51] ***
JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther is now known as
JoshTheEnder
L442[11:25:44]
⇨ Joins: asie
(~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl)
L443[11:26:14] ⇦
Quits: Sangar (~Sangar@178-26-79-92-dynip.superkabel.de) (Read
error: Connection reset by peer)
L444[11:26:59]
⇨ Joins: Sangar
(~Sangar@178-26-79-92-dynip.superkabel.de)
L445[11:26:59]
zsh sets mode: +o on Sangar
L446[11:31:24] <JZTech101> Kenny: PM
L447[11:49:07] ***
JoshTheEnder is now known as
JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther
L448[12:01:08] <Cisien> Robots...1.7... I
left a pair of robots dropping sand on some AE2 transition planes
over night. I was logged off but this is spawn, so chunks are still
loaded. AE2's stuff was working (a cobble gen next to it), but the
robots didn't continue to drop sand?
L449[12:06:10] ***
manmaed|AFK is now known as manmaed
L450[12:06:24] ***
prassel|off is now known as prasselpikachu
L451[12:08:35] ***
JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther is now known as
JoshTheEnder
L452[12:45:41] <Kenny> Sangar: I have a
question. I'm doing s length check of a string which starts out
(line="") but i keep getting an error on the string.len()
about expected a string got nil. How do i get around this?
L453[12:45:48] <Kenny> doing a*
L454[12:49:11] ***
JoshTheEnder is now known as
JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther
L455[13:21:22] <Kenny> nvm
L456[13:26:47] ***
LordFokas is now known as LordFokas|out
L457[13:32:16] ***
Din is now known as SleepyDinIsSleepy
L458[13:46:28] ***
prasselpikachu is now known as prassel|off
L459[13:46:32] <Kenny> taking a break from
coding
L460[13:46:36] ***
Kenny is now known as Kenny|AFK
L461[13:49:54] ⇦
Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p5B31FC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit:
Greetings from Pastry Fork, Inc. ✔)
L462[13:53:26] ⇦
Quits: SleepyDinIsSleepy (~DinFer@92.36.252.254) (Quit: CYA LATER
LOOSERS !!!!! ME GONNA GO DO SWAGSTUFFS)
L463[14:36:09]
⇨ Joins: Wobbo
(webchat@5ED58A7C.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
L464[14:36:09]
zsh sets mode: +v on Wobbo
L465[14:36:36] <Wobbo> Anyway who knows of
a good irc client on Ubuntu? :P
L466[14:37:05] ***
SuPeRMiNoR2|Away is now known as SuPeRMiNoR2
L467[14:37:14] <Forecaster> I use
irssi
L468[14:37:18] <Forecaster> is commandline
:P
L469[14:37:22] <Forecaster> and
great
L470[14:37:36] <Biohazard> weechat
<3
L471[14:38:03] <Biohazard> also
commandline
L472[14:38:03] <Biohazard> :D
L473[14:39:54] <Wobbo> Something else,
since this is os so custimisible linux, could I make cmd act like
ctrl? Just to annoy everyone who has to work on it exept for me
:P
L474[14:40:54] <Forecaster> google?
:P
L475[14:45:20] <Wobbo> As soon as I get my
wifi working :P
L476[14:45:55] <Forecaster> the mighty
google transcends wifi!
L477[14:46:24] <Wobbo> No, I want to know
how I can see the progress on the installation for the
drivers
L478[14:46:48] <Wired2coffee> My server
has 13 people on it ^_^
L479[14:47:45] <Wobbo> Kick one, that is
an unlucky number!
L480[14:47:59] <Forecaster> or invite
someone else :P
L481[14:49:21] <Wobbo> That is impossible,
because then you would have 13 people only for some time
L482[14:50:09] <Cisien> the os needs tab
completion :)
L483[14:52:29] <Wobbo> Build it :P
L484[14:55:53] <Wired2coffee> Yes, tab
completion, and true bash shell, oh and don't forget vim
L485[14:56:03] <Wobbo> Damn, it seems like
the installation for the drivers isn't making any progress
L486[14:56:09] <Wobbo> I second vim!
L487[14:56:50] <Wired2coffee> Oh and I
want GNU make
L488[14:56:57] <Wobbo> Why?
L489[14:57:10] <Wired2coffee> Dunno,
lols
L490[14:57:18] <Wobbo> derp
L491[14:57:28] <Wobbo> I am going to
reboot, so I will be gone shortly
L492[14:57:32] ⇦
Parts: Wobbo (webchat@5ED58A7C.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
())
L493[15:10:10]
⇨ Joins: Wobbo
(webchat@5ED58A7C.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
L494[15:10:10]
zsh sets mode: +v on Wobbo
L495[15:10:18] <Wobbo> And I have WiFi!
:D
L496[15:10:54] <Wobbo> Now I only need to
drag around an external hard disk around and I can boot
Ubuntu
L497[15:16:08] <Wired2coffee> Mint is a
better newbie distro.
L498[15:17:57] <Wobbo> But I want to
install ROS, and that works on Ubuntu
L499[15:18:21] <Wired2coffee> Mint is
ubuntu based, they both run the same thingh
L500[15:18:34] <Wobbo> And the other guys
in the RoboLab run Ubuntu to, so I know the Behavioural
architecture will work on Ubuntu for sure
L501[15:18:59] <Wobbo> Also, I'm not that
much of a newbie, this is just the first time I am going to run
Ubuntu on real hardware :P
L502[15:19:45] <Wired2coffee> You're not a
newbie to Linux? I thought you ran Mac?
L503[15:20:59] <Wobbo> Normally, but I run
Linux when I am at the university
L504[15:21:20] <Wobbo> And I have had some
Virtual boxes that ran Ubuntu or Debian
L505[15:21:27] <Wired2coffee> Oh, why
Ubuntu then?
L506[15:22:03]
⇨ Joins: _Wobbo
(~Wobbo@5ED58A7C.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
L507[15:22:28] <_Wobbo> WootWoot
L508[15:22:28] <Wired2coffee>
Whaaaat?
L509[15:22:49] <Wobbo> Because Ubuntu has
a mac edition, can run ROS and is used in the robolab
L510[15:23:07] ⇦
Parts: Wobbo (webchat@5ED58A7C.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
())
L511[15:23:19] ***
_Wobbo is now known as Wobbo
L512[15:23:33]
zsh sets mode: +v on Wobbo
L513[15:23:49] <Wobbo> Well then
L514[15:24:10] <Wired2coffee> Is there any
reason it wouldn't run on other distros?
L515[15:24:17] <Wired2coffee> Heck, want
me to try?
L516[15:25:29] <Wobbo> It might, but there
is offical support for Ubuntu
L517[15:25:54] <Wired2coffee> Yeah it's in
the arch repositories, it'll run
L518[15:26:05] <Wobbo> And like I said,
the other guys in the robolab run Ubuntu as well, so the
architecture we have to use is kinda written for Ubuntu
L519[15:26:27] <Wobbo> Although I almost
got it to run on my Mac, but a faulty readline stopped me from
doing that :/
L520[15:27:08] <Wired2coffee> Yeah it runs
on Mint too, but Mint is ubuntu based
L521[15:30:00] <Wobbo> I feel limited in
my workspaces :(
L522[15:35:25] <Wobbo> I am used to
unlimited workspaces now, but I only have four :/
L523[15:40:00] ⇦
Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit:
Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
L524[15:40:21] <Wired2coffee> Wobbo, get a
better DE
L525[15:40:40] <Wobbo> What DE's do you
suggest?
L526[15:41:02] <Wired2coffee> Depends what
you do
L527[15:41:18] <Wired2coffee> I'm doing
bspwm/kde atm
L528[15:41:50] <Wired2coffee> I switch
between the two
L529[15:43:27] <Wobbo> I have a dislike
for kde, but I don't know bspwm
L530[15:43:57] <Wired2coffee> Here, I'll
take a screenshot of my KDE to show you ^_^
L531[15:47:09] <Wired2coffee>
L533[15:49:02] <Wired2coffee> Oh my
network monitor moved >_>
L534[15:49:02] <Wobbo> Still not my cup of
tea
L536[15:50:31] <Wired2coffee> That's
bspwm
L537[15:52:22] <Wobbo> Do you always have
those rectangular terminals or can you make one full screen?
L538[15:52:53] <Wired2coffee> You can, but
I don't see why you would. Kinda defeats the purpose.
L539[15:53:29] <Wobbo> Because then you
would have multiple workspaces :P
L540[15:54:16] <Wired2coffee> bspwm is
more fun, but you can lose a week customizing it
L541[15:56:58] <Wobbo> Hmm... That is to
much effort for a second OS imho
L542[15:57:21] <Wired2coffee> Well you can
always steal someone elses.
L543[15:58:28] <Wobbo> XD
L544[15:58:52] <Wobbo> I like it how most
package managers warn you that a whole 128 mb of your hard disk
will be used when you install a package :P
L545[15:59:08] <Wobbo> My bad, 146
mb
L546[15:59:24] <Wired2coffee> I liked the
128 more
L547[15:59:52] <Wobbo> So do I
L548[16:04:07] <Wobbo> ANyway, it took me
one and a half day, but I am finally getting Ubuntu useable by my
standards. In other words: I installed gvim :P
L549[16:05:11] <Wired2coffee> What's the
diffirence between vim and gvim?
L550[16:05:12]
⇨ Joins: asie
(~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl)
L551[16:06:51] <Wobbo> vim runs in a
terminal, while gvim runs outside of ti
L552[16:07:08] <Wobbo> So you can have
different background colors for you terminal and your editor
L553[16:07:25] <Wobbo> Also, menu options
for certain things
L554[16:08:04] <Wired2coffee> That seems a
little weird, but I'm not much of a GUI guy
L555[16:08:07] <Wobbo> like opening and
saving files, which I use to save a file for the first time
L556[16:08:31] <Wired2coffee> I'll stick
to :w lol
L557[16:08:34] <Wobbo> But at the same
time it is still vim
L558[16:09:23] <Wired2coffee> So why do
you dislike KDE? Other than the fact it's a bit of a
heavyweight
L559[16:09:43] <Wobbo> Normally I use :w,
but for the first time I find it more convienent to be able to
select that file
L560[16:10:46] <Wobbo> I'm a Dock kinda
guy I guess. After having used OS X for over 4 years, almost 5 now,
it is the first place to look
L561[16:11:04] <Wobbo> While KDE has a
more windows kinda look. And I can't work with windows :P
L562[16:11:20] <Wired2coffee> Is that
really the only reason?
L563[16:11:23] <Wobbo> I am fine with
Gnome 2 though, altough I prefer to have cairo dock installed
:P
L564[16:11:40] <Wobbo> I just don't like
the way it is organised.
L565[16:11:44] <Wobbo> not at all
L566[16:12:27] <Wired2coffee> It's not
really windows-y, but it's closer to windows than mac
L567[16:12:55] <Wobbo> You are right,
windows doesn't have a start menu :P
L568[16:14:01] <Wired2coffee> bspwm is
amazing though
L569[16:14:56] <Wired2coffee> You have to
try it at least once :P
L570[16:16:03] ***
JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther is now known as
JoshTheEnder
L571[16:17:41] ⇦
Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit: I'll
probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)
L572[16:20:00] ***
SuPeRMiNoR2 is now known as SuPeRMiNoR2|Away
L573[16:21:03] ***
Kenny|AFK is now known as Kenny
L574[16:21:11] <Kenny> Wobbo!
L575[16:21:21] <Wobbo> Hi Kenny
L576[16:22:34] <Kenny> having fun with
Linux hehe
L577[16:25:38] <Wobbo> Sort of, just
installing some stuff
L578[16:25:53] <Wobbo> Just installed
gnome-pie, that is usefull
L579[16:26:46] <Kenny> now you see why it
drove me up a wall. stuff had to be installed and i had no clue
what did what
L580[16:27:31] <Kenny> all i used it for
after that was games cause iot had a few pre-installed games that i
liked
L581[16:28:09] <Wobbo> I find it pretty
easy to install stuff. Just go to the ubuntu software centre and
install what you need
L582[16:28:27] ***
Lathanael is now known as Lathanael|Away
L583[16:28:41] <Wobbo> And otherwise you
just find the apt-get package, if the software centre doesn't have
it
L584[16:30:19] ⇦
Quits: Sorroko
(~Sorroko@cpc15-chms4-2-0-cust140.20-1.cable.virginm.net) (Quit:
Leaving)
L585[16:32:21] <Wobbo> Its not that hard
if you know where to look, but it can be rather frustrating when
you don't
L586[16:32:49] <Wobbo> I remeber trying to
install my first program in linux, that was so weird
L587[16:36:07] <Kenny> it's not installing
the stuff, it's knowing what the program does. the names of the
programs aren't really descriptive of what they do
L588[16:36:25] <Wobbo> No, they aren't
always as clear
L589[16:36:44] <Wobbo> Wired2coffee, does
apt-get have an info system?
L590[16:36:56] <Kenny> a file manager is a
file manager, call it that
L591[16:37:13] <Kenny> not Konquer like
you're trying to take over the world
L592[16:37:23]
⇨ Joins: asie
(~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl)
L593[16:37:37] <Wobbo> Windows calls it
explorer
L594[16:37:43] <Wired2coffee> I don't have
apt-get
L595[16:37:47] <Wobbo> ah
L596[16:37:58] <Wired2coffee> try apt-get
--help
L597[16:39:00] <Wobbo> no info function.
that is pretty stupid
L598[16:39:40] <Wobbo> nevermind there is
also no search
L599[16:41:25] <Kenny> exploring the hard
drive, not Konquering it :P
L600[16:42:08] <Wobbo> Konquerer is king
of the hard drive, it already konquered it :P
L601[16:42:27] <Kenny> :P
L602[16:48:54] <Wobbo> And now vim is my
pager :)
L603[17:12:13] ***
Biohazard is now known as _
L604[17:14:12] <Kenny> there he goes being
a sidewalk again so he can get stepped on
L605[17:25:59] ⇦
Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit: I'll
probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)
L606[17:27:47] ***
JoshTheEnder is now known as
JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther
L608[17:37:06] <JZTech101> o,o
L609[17:38:16] <JZTech101> Kenny: ic
L611[17:38:56] <JZTech101> o,o
L612[17:39:00] <JZTech101> I don't want to
say yes
L613[17:39:03] <JZTech101> but kinda
L614[17:39:04] <JZTech101> :/
L615[17:51:33] <JZTech101> ofch e
dissappears>
L616[17:52:06] <Wobbo> Kenny!
L618[17:52:25] <JZTech101> I
responded
L619[17:54:27] <Kenny> you should have
feaking waited
L620[17:54:53] <Kenny> chexck the damn
forum now
L621[17:55:09] <Kenny> i ought to pull
out
L622[17:55:27] <JZTech101> Kenny:
gee...
L623[17:55:30] <JZTech101> I asked
you
L624[17:55:34] <JZTech101> You didn't even
respond
L625[17:55:38] <JZTech101> I thought you
when afk
L626[17:55:44] <JZTech101> Could've given
me the heads up
L627[17:55:45] <Kenny> i had to freaking
register befiore i could reply
L628[17:55:50] <JZTech101> :/
L629[17:56:07] <JZTech101> no. I meant
reply on IRC
L630[17:56:13] <JZTech101> Kenny: what do
we do now?
L631[17:56:31] <Kenny> and i don;t stop
for othewr stuff when i get the words flowing in my head for that
kind of reponse
L632[17:56:44] <Kenny> if i do i may lose
that train of thiought
L634[17:57:20] <JZTech101> Kenny: So.. was
my post bad?
L635[17:57:23] <JZTech101> or...?
L636[17:57:43] <Cisien> i have scala in
the libraries directory that forge installed, and i have the scala
jar distributed with MPS in the mods dir
L637[17:58:44] <Kenny> did it tell you to
install scala?
L638[17:58:57] <Kenny> cause i didn't have
to run the mod
L639[17:58:57] <Cisien> did what?
L640[17:59:03] <JZTech101> Kenny: what do
I do? Leave it?
L641[17:59:05] <JZTech101> change
it?
L642[17:59:08] <JZTech101> :/
L643[17:59:15] <Kenny> go read the
installation instructions for the mod
L644[17:59:28] <Kenny> leave it, JZ
L645[17:59:37] <JZTech101> ok
L646[17:59:47] <Kenny> you shouldn;t have
tio install scala at all to run the mod
L647[18:00:09] <Cisien> scala is there
from other mods
L648[18:00:26] <Cisien> MPS, for example,
requires their scala jar in the mods dir
L649[18:00:48] <Cisien> i run the 1.7
build with no problem
L650[18:01:53] <Kenny> Sangar, you
around?
L651[18:02:21] <Kenny> this error doesn't
seem to be coming from OC but i can't be sure
L652[18:02:27] <JZTech101> Kenny: btw
still wouldn't mind feedback on the pack atm. I'm getting to the
point where I've done what I can
L653[18:02:30] <JZTech101> I need
feedback
L654[18:02:32] <Cisien> what's strange, is
this bombs out when forge is normally running it's ATs
L655[18:02:33] <JZTech101> lol
L656[18:02:52] <Cisien> Kenny, it doesn't
reproduce if i remove the OC jar
L657[18:03:44] <Kenny> see, that;s why i'm
trying to get Sangar, i don';t know scala but i know that he has
the scala stuff in his mod already
L658[18:04:08] <Kenny> so it could be that
the issue is due to 2 scala libraries being present
L659[18:04:32] <Cisien> FMLCorePlugin:
li.cil.oc.common.launch.TransformerLoader ... maybe that's what
it's trying to do?
L660[18:04:33] <Kenny> i haven't set a
server up with the mod yet so i have no real clue
L661[18:04:55] <Kenny> very possibly
L662[18:05:00] <Cisien> i'm going to try
and force forge's scala impl into the classpath
L663[18:05:08] <Kenny> but i can't say for
certain
L664[18:06:50] <Cisien> hmm
L665[18:06:54] <Wobbo> I'm going to
sleep
L666[18:06:56] <Wobbo> Later!
L667[18:07:09] <Wired2coffee> Night,
Wobbo
L668[18:07:31] ⇦
Quits: Wobbo (~Wobbo@5ED58A7C.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) (Quit:
Leaving)
L669[18:07:55] <Cisien> hmm..didn't seem
to help
L670[18:09:00] <Kenny> Cisien: i'm at a
loss to help with this one. I know nothing about scala nor how it
is implenmented with java
L671[18:09:35] <Cisien> i wonder if i'm
using an outdated set (or too new?) set of scala jars
L672[18:10:00] <Cisien> adding the scala
jars that come with forge/MPS in the classpath directly didn't seem
to help any
L673[18:12:02] <Kenny> that error that you
posted shows nothing about the scala for OC being an issue. but
then you posted a ver small porftion of the error
L674[18:12:13] <Kenny> portion*
L675[18:12:41] <Cisien> that's the full
thing
L677[18:13:38] <Cisien> the
filenotfoundexception is not an issue
L678[18:15:29] <Cisien> gotta love
reflection making things hard to track down
L679[18:16:58] <Kenny> why are you running
java 25
L680[18:17:08] <Kenny> current is 45
L681[18:18:52] <Kenny> and that error
looks tpo have something to do with inventory tweaks
L682[18:19:31] <Kenny> and then Access
Transformers
L683[18:20:14] <Cisien> the inv tweaks not
found exception can be ignored
L684[18:20:45] <Kenny> but that error
follows right behind it loading the config for Access
Transformers
L685[18:21:36] <Kenny> it starts calling
the fml twear manager and then crashes
L686[18:21:42] <Kenny> tweak*
L687[18:22:32] <Cisien> yeah
L688[18:23:17] <Kenny> have you tried
pulling AccessTransformer and seeing what happens?
L689[18:24:47] <Cisien> not sure what you
mean?
L690[18:25:10] <Kenny> do you have a mod
called Access Transformer?
L691[18:25:22] <Cisien> no
L692[18:25:44] <Cisien> that's a Forge/FML
thing -- core mods use it to tweak base classes
L693[18:26:10] <Kenny> it's loading a
config file
L694[18:26:11] <Cisien> oc uses one at
li.cl.oc.common.launch.TransformerLoader
L695[18:27:11] <Kenny> is this 1.7 or
1.6
L696[18:27:15] <Cisien> 1.6
L697[18:27:53] ***
alekso56 is now known as alekso56_off
L699[18:28:35] <Kenny> you're right,
invocation errors are a bitch
L700[18:28:52] <Cisien> :)
L701[18:29:23] <Cisien> my suspicion is
that it's not loading the scala libs before it tries to call the oc
access transformer, and it's bombing out
L702[18:29:53] <Kenny> what's
ejml-023.jar?
L703[18:29:59] <Cisien> something ic2
adds
L704[18:30:31] <Kenny> that's what it's
loading right before the crash
L705[18:30:49] <Cisien> it's not new
L706[18:32:18] <Cisien> removing it didn't
change anything
L707[18:32:51] <Kenny> listen, i already
told you i wans't familiar with scala, so all i can do is point to
what it was loading before the crash
L708[18:34:02] <Kenny> Sangar, isn't
around so i don't know what tio tell you. I'm helping to the best
of my ability. if that isn;t good enough figure it out
yourself
L709[18:35:38] <Cisien> I appreciate the
help. I'm only trying to give you (or others here) the info needed
to help narrow down the issue. Please don't think i'm getting on
you for not fixing the problem.
L710[18:37:24] <Kenny> as you said,
tryingf to track down an invocation error is a bitch, and with no
knowledge of scala it makes it an even bigger pain for me
L711[18:38:10] <Cisien> yeah... Thanks for
attempting :) ... my suspicion is it's not finding scala (or the
right version of?)...so i'll continue to poke at it.
L712[18:38:56] <Kenny> you tried moving
those other scala libs into the classpth, try removing them
completely and see aht happens
L713[18:39:06] <Kenny> what*
L714[18:39:42] <Kenny> if i'm not mistaken
OC already has the scala libs included
L715[18:39:53] <Cisien> i didn't see them
in the jar
L716[18:40:07] <Kenny> i could be wrong so
don't quote me "P
L717[18:40:09] <Kenny> :P
L718[18:40:48] <Kenny> i know i didn't
have to install any scala libs for my client
L719[18:40:49] <Cisien> i wonder if that's
what com\typesafe\* is
L720[18:45:32] <Cisien> yah, this is
strange...the scala-library.jar i have already includes the
scala.collection.Seq class
L721[18:45:50] <Kenny> i just frigging saw
something about scala in the jar but now i can't find it
L722[18:46:02] <Cisien> :)
L723[18:46:17] <Cisien> that's how it
always goes, right?
L724[18:46:59] <Kenny> it had to with
Scala Closure for one
L725[18:48:14] <Cisien> forge includes
scala, which is probably why it works for you?
L726[18:48:44] <Kenny> so why would MPS
need scala
L727[18:49:00] <Cisien> not sure, if i
don't include it, i get a similar exception later in the load
L728[18:52:11] <Kenny> look in
il/cil/oc/util
L729[18:52:29] <Kenny> there are some
classes in there dealing with scala
L730[18:52:47] <Kenny> took me freaking
long enough to find it again
L732[18:54:22] <Kenny> and my eyes are
about fried
L733[18:54:44] <Kenny> been staring at
this computer for over 12 hours now
L734[18:54:44] <Cisien> late where you're
at?
L735[18:54:50] <Kenny> 8pm
L736[18:54:52] <Cisien> those are good
days :)
L737[18:55:12] <Kenny> but i been front of
this computer since about 7am
L738[18:55:32] <Cisien> got me beat
:)
L739[18:55:35] <Kenny> and i fgiure i'm at
least twice your age
L740[18:55:46] <Cisien> it would of had to
of gotten up at 4?
L741[18:55:52] <Cisien> you're 62!?
L742[18:56:02] <Kenny> in 5 years
L743[18:56:06] <Cisien> nice
L744[18:56:09] <Kenny> i'm 57
L745[18:56:32] <Kenny> and my eyes aren't
as good as they were when i was your age :P
L746[18:56:40] <Cisien> :)
L747[18:56:50] <Cisien> can't say my eyes
are the greatest :)
L748[18:56:56] <Kenny> back then i didn't
need glasses
L749[18:57:19] <Cisien> well, i haven't
had to get a stronger prescription in at least 3 years...so
progress i guess
L750[18:57:43] <Kenny> i just started
wearing them about 10 years ago
L751[18:57:45] <Cisien> it's strong enough
that i couldn't use any of the more advanced plastics for
lenses
L752[18:58:36] <Kenny> i knw someone that
was like that. they charged her $800 for one pair
L753[18:58:45] <Cisien> eww
L754[18:58:58] <Kenny> she had to have
special tinted glasses
L755[18:59:05] <Cisien> though, glasses +
sun glasses cost me 300 with insurance covering a large chunk of
it
L756[18:59:24] <Kenny> she couldn't use
transitionals
L757[18:59:44] <Kenny> she has a pair that
is tinted for indoors and a pair that is dark for outside
L758[18:59:44] <Cisien> i might try that
route when i get around to updating these
L759[18:59:56] <Cisien> sensitive to the
light?
L760[19:00:03] <Kenny> yep
L761[19:00:08] <Cisien> that's gotta
suck
L762[19:00:49] <Kenny> they tried to use
botox when she was younger to fix the eyes but it just made things
worse
L763[19:01:17] <Kenny> that was partly
what caused the light sensitivity
L764[19:02:24] <Kenny> well, i'm about to
say the hell with my sister and fix dinner for myself. i'm tired of
waiting for her to get her lazy ass out of bed
L765[19:02:37] <Cisien> :)
L766[19:02:40] <Cisien> night job?
L767[19:02:53] <Kenny> stayed up all night
and didn't go to bed till 11am
L768[19:02:58] <Kenny> nope, she don't
wiork
L769[19:03:06] <Cisien> nice
L770[19:03:08] <Kenny> neither do i for
that matter
L771[19:03:20] <Kenny> i'm on
disability
L772[19:03:29] <Kenny> legs are
fucked
L773[19:03:37] <Cisien> military?
L774[19:03:57] <Kenny> nope, valves in the
legs are deteriorating
L775[19:04:03] <Cisien> ahh
L776[19:04:10] <Kenny> lets the blood flow
back into my lower legs
L777[19:04:27] <Kenny> combine that with
neuropathy and it's a major pain
L778[19:04:37] <Cisien> my knees are
starting to go bad. credit: us army
L779[19:05:03] <Kenny> couldn't get in the
military, was calssed a 4-F
L780[19:05:13] <Kenny> deaf in right
ear
L781[19:05:16] <Cisien> ahh
L782[19:05:27] <Kenny> almost slipped in
though lol
L783[19:05:27] <Cisien> somehow my hearing
came out un touched
L784[19:05:31] <Cisien> :)
L785[19:05:57] <Cisien> you'd think all
the time i spent next to loud diesel generators would of done
something
L786[19:06:12] <Kenny> enlisted in the
reserves, got clear to being sworn in when a damn Captain busted my
about my hearing and made then re-check me
L787[19:06:27] <Kenny> me about*
L788[19:06:36] <Cisien> oh well
L789[19:06:59] <Cisien> they didn't have a
job you could do with partial hearing?
L790[19:07:02] <Kenny> if i had known then
what i know now, they wouldn't have gotten away with it like they
did
L791[19:07:21] <Kenny> i have been totally
deaf in my right ear since i was 13
L792[19:07:46] <Kenny> lost it in an
accident
L793[19:09:26] <Kenny> brb
L794[19:13:07] <Cisien> yeah, fml will
load scala-library.jar in my mods directory ... but after the point
where i'm getting the crash :/
L795[19:13:27] <Sangar> hiya. was away for
the day, what did i miss?
L796[19:13:35] <JZTech101>
EVERYTHING
L797[19:13:41] <Cisien> :)
L798[19:13:42] <Sangar> well. damn.
L799[19:13:55] <Kenny> we have a bug
problem
L800[19:13:57] <Cisien> just trying to
figure out why i crash with OC in my mods dir
L801[19:14:26] <Sangar> the link
above?
L802[19:14:30] <Cisien> it seems like my
server isn't loading the scala-library jar before the OC class
transformer loads
L803[19:14:38] <Cisien> paste.cisien.com
link? yeah
L804[19:14:45] <Sangar> oh? well that's...
odd.
L805[19:15:11] <Cisien> i've tried
throwing the library jar in my class path on the commandline, with
no luck
L806[19:15:28] <Cisien> this is 1.6,
btw
L807[19:16:01] <Sangar> ok
L808[19:16:20] <Cisien> i wonder if the
client blows up...
L809[19:16:56] <Sangar> could you try with
just oc for a sec? since the crash seems to originate in
codechicken.lib
L810[19:17:15] <Sangar> might be oc's
transformer is returning something it shouldn't, confusing
it.
L811[19:17:41] <Cisien> client loads with
OC jars
L812[19:17:49]
⇨ Joins: ShadowKatStudios
(~chatzilla@c211-31-42-102.rochd5.qld.optusnet.com.au)
L813[19:17:51] <Kenny> thing is Sangar, i
have no problem with it and Chicken
L814[19:18:15] <Kenny> it's got to be
something server specific
L815[19:18:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Morning
o/
L816[19:18:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Oooh! I
had this /really awesome/ idea, but I forget what it is.
L817[19:18:32] <Kenny> but i've wracked my
head trying to figure out what
L818[19:18:39] <Kenny> evening
L819[19:18:49] <Kenny> \o
L820[19:18:49] <Sangar> might be something
framework version related, i dunno
L821[19:18:56] <Sangar> evenin' :)
L822[19:19:12] <Cisien> it might be
something i have to do special on the server, too :)
L823[19:19:23] <Kenny> one of the few
times ehn we both say the same thing lol
L824[19:19:29] <Kenny> when*
L825[19:19:29] <Sangar> forge server?
mcpc+? something else?
L826[19:19:30] <ShadowKatStudios> That's
right! I'd like to request a feature: Being able (maybe with a
special tool) to pick up a case with all the components in it
L827[19:19:39] <Cisien> min req: just the
oc jar?
L828[19:19:50] <Sangar> yes
L829[19:19:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
maybe locking the case?
L830[19:20:06] <Sangar> locking: add
youself as a user
L831[19:20:29] <Sangar> keeping the
inventory... maybe.
L832[19:20:29] <Cisien> Sangar, happens
with just the OC jar
L833[19:20:38] <Sangar> what's the crash
in that case?
L834[19:20:44] <Sangar> (should be
somewhat different)
L835[19:20:55] <Kenny> what version of
forge?
L836[19:21:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Add
yourself as a user?
L837[19:21:33] <Cisien> 965
L839[19:21:48] <Kenny> damn, ain;t that
then
L840[19:21:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
Oooooohhhhh
L842[19:22:01] <Cisien> looks the
same
L843[19:22:15] <ShadowKatStudios> That's a
thing? Cool
L844[19:22:27] <Sangar> not quite, the
chickenlib is gone :P
L845[19:22:29] <Cisien> uploading my
instance, maybe that will help?
L846[19:22:49] <Kenny> Caused by:
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: scala/collection/Seq
L847[19:22:51] <Cisien> is your core mod
new in 1.2?
L848[19:23:01] <Sangar> yes it is
L849[19:23:12] <Cisien> hmm
L850[19:23:17] <Kenny> can't figure that
one out.
L851[19:23:18] <Sangar> and the instance:
if you mean everything, including the server, it might be.
L852[19:23:22] <Cisien> does it not load
on the client?
L853[19:23:24] <ShadowKatStudios> The user
setup is cool
L854[19:23:47] <Cisien> Sangar, just the
server
L855[19:24:26] <Cisien> slow upload
L856[19:24:29] <Cisien> meh
L857[19:24:33] <Sangar> mm, what i'm
suspecting is that the transformer - for whatever reason - screws
up the scala class when it tries to load it
L859[19:24:51] <Cisien> why not on the
client?
L860[19:25:03] <Sangar> i dunno. probably
because.
L861[19:25:23] <Cisien> because 42
:p
L862[19:25:35] *
Kenny piles some wood around the ISP and sets a fire under their
ass to increase the upload speed
L863[19:25:39] <ShadowKatStudios> So
keeping inventory is a possibility?
L864[19:26:01] <Sangar> well, at least i
can reproduce it with that, thanks!
L865[19:26:20] <Cisien> good to hear
L866[19:27:03] <Kenny> Cisien did my
action help any hehe
L867[19:27:24] <Cisien> helped narrow down
what it wasn't :)
L868[19:27:39] <Kenny> no silly
this:
L869[19:27:41] *
Kenny piles some wood around the ISP and sets a fire under their
ass to increase the upload speed
L870[19:27:54] <Cisien> hah
L871[19:28:02] <Cisien> naw, they tend to
ignore small fires :)
L872[19:28:21] <Kenny> who said i made a
small fire?
L873[19:28:28] *
ShadowKatStudios piles the junk in the back yard into a
bonfire
L874[19:28:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Would
that be better? ;)
L875[19:28:39] <Cisien> well, it's
frontier
L876[19:28:41] <Kenny> you're dealing with
a hillbilly here, we don't do things small hehe
L877[19:28:45] <Cisien> :)
L878[19:29:26] <Cisien> so get this... i'm
2 blocks from the CO... but there is 10 kilometers of copper
between me and the CO
L879[19:29:32] <Kenny> a small fire for us
is considered a bonfiore by everyone else lol
L880[19:29:46] <Cisien> because verizon
ran the copper 2 miles down the road before turning around to
service the other side of the street
L881[19:30:05] <Kenny> verizon was always
stupid
L882[19:30:20] <Cisien> since there's so
much copper, i can't get any faster internet from them
L883[19:30:30] <Cisien> sadly, they are
better than the cable provider in this area -- quality wise
L884[19:30:34] <Kenny> and they should
have fiber in. they were paid to do that 15 years ago by the
gov't
L885[19:30:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
probably gonna have to move, and that means I'll be stuck with ADSL
2 D:
L886[19:31:42] <ShadowKatStudios> 500KiB/s
is slow D:
L887[19:31:58] <Cisien> 2mb up, 12 mb
down
L888[19:32:01] <Kenny> that's what bmy
upload rate is :(
L889[19:32:26] <Cisien> 2 lines bonded
together
L890[19:32:26] <Sangar> well it's not the
class transformer apparently (if i rename it to zip it still
crashes - later, but still)
L891[19:32:32] <Kenny> i get 3MB down but
only 500KB up
L892[19:32:37] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
1MiB upload, 10MiB download, and that's what's called an industrial
connection here...
L893[19:33:27] <Kenny> lights out at
moment, afk
L894[19:33:30] <Cisien> Sangar, so...
that's the exception i get if i don't have scala-library.jar in my
mods dir
L895[19:33:32] <Cisien> with MPS
L896[19:34:00] <Kenny> blew a breaker
lol
L897[19:34:54] <Cisien> Sangar, if i throw
the scala-libary.jar that MPS distributes in the mods dir, it
loads
L898[19:35:10] <Sangar> hm
L899[19:35:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I tried
to build a magnet accelerator cannon at one point and it blew the
fuses :D
L900[19:35:28] <Cisien> capacitors
:)
L901[19:35:54] <Sangar> replacing the
scala-library-2.10.2.jar in the server's
libraries/org/scala-lang/scala-library/2.10.2 folder with the one
from the client also seems to work
L902[19:35:59] <Kenny> i have a little
electric heater i have to use at the moment and it overheats the
breaker on the power strip and pops it
L903[19:36:04] <ShadowKatStudios> It
didn't occur to me at the point
L904[19:36:10] <ShadowKatStudios>
that*
L905[19:36:12] <Cisien> hmm
L906[19:36:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Though
Jaycar sells supercapacitors..
L907[19:36:31] <Cisien> as a jar or a
zip?
L908[19:36:36] <Cisien> oc.jar that
is
L909[19:36:49] <Sangar> as a jar, i.e.
with the class transformer kicking in
L910[19:37:25] <Sangar> so either the
setup derped or the scala lib the forge server installer is ...
weird
L911[19:37:34] <Sangar> +downloads
L912[19:37:36] <Cisien> hmm
L913[19:37:44] <Kenny> ok, so what was the
solution to this problem so i know what to do if someone else has
this issue
L914[19:37:46] <Cisien> i've not touched
this since early 1.6 builds of forge
L915[19:38:06] <Cisien> reinstall forge
server with the installer, i'm guessing (I'll try)
L916[19:38:23] <Sangar> replacing the
libraries/org/scala-lang/scala-library/2.10.2/scala-library-2.10.2.jar
file on the server with the one from the client
L917[19:38:38] <Sangar> if the installer
gets the non-working jar
L918[19:38:40]
⇨ Joins: ^v
(~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:99c0:c6d4:efdc:3703)
L919[19:38:53] <Kenny> okey dokey
L920[19:39:22] ⇦
Quits: ^v (~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:99c0:c6d4:efdc:3703) (Read error:
Connection reset by peer)
L921[19:39:34]
⇨ Joins: ^v
(~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:99c0:c6d4:efdc:3703)
L922[19:39:38] <Kenny> i knew it was scala
related damn it hehe
L923[19:39:51] <Kenny> was why i couldn't
figure it out
L924[19:39:52] <^v> yekod yeko
L925[19:40:09] <Cisien> yeah
L926[19:40:10] *
Kenny DiNozzo's ^v
L928[19:40:22] <Cisien> i don't understand
why i haven't had problems before?
L929[19:40:33] <Sangar> no clue
L930[19:40:33] <Cisien> maybe OC is the
first to use scala for a transformer?
L932[19:41:06] <Sangar> well it crashed
(the package you linked) even when i renamed the mod to .zip, in
which case it doesn't even use the transfomer
L933[19:41:14] <Sangar> much later into
the startup, but it'd still crash
L934[19:41:31] <Sangar> really weird, no
idea why the scala lib jars would be different for server and
client anyway
L935[19:41:39] <Kenny> i've played with it
a little hehe
L936[19:41:43] <Sangar> client one was a
couple of megs larger even
L937[19:41:52] <Cisien> i had the
scala-library.jar in the mods directory, it was injected into the
classpath later
L938[19:41:55] <Cisien> so that probably
masked it
L939[19:42:06] <Kenny> OC can access the
robot controller block thru the adapter
L940[19:42:33] <ShadowKatStudios> It can?
:D
L941[19:42:39] <ShadowKatStudios>
:D:D:D
L942[19:42:44] <Sangar> i guess. it sounds
like the one in the servers libraries folder was missing some
classes.
L943[19:42:59] <ShadowKatStudios> What
about the glasses?
L944[19:43:48] <Kenny> also, Sangar, i
found out that Logipipes now allows Turtles to access them to
get/drop items. because of this they will also accept OC
robots
L945[19:44:24] *
JZTech101 sits around polishing up the pack wondering when Kenny
will actually give feedback on it
L946[19:44:30] <Sangar> glasses: won't
work because the push 'userdata' to lua, which oc doesn't support
(for persistence)
L947[19:44:51] <Sangar> pipes:
interesting. via an extra api or simply because they're an
inventory?
L948[19:45:06] <Kenny> because they are an
inventory
L949[19:45:17] <Sangar> ok
L950[19:45:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Darn,
but OK
L951[19:45:27] <ShadowKatStudios> That's
fine (I want the robot :P)
L952[19:45:48] <Kenny> put a robot besides
a basic logipipe and it will show it connecting just like to a
chest
L953[19:46:42] <Kenny> tomorrow, JZ. too
tired right now to do much iof anything, except go yell at my
sister to get her lazy ass out of bed
L954[19:46:54] <JZTech101> ok :>
L955[19:47:18] <JZTech101> Kenny: I made
the oregen abit denser. About 800 of each ore if you run a 64x64
quarry
L956[19:47:22] <JZTech101> based on my
calculations
L957[19:47:46] <Kenny> too big
L958[19:47:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I can't
use OpenPeripheral without ComputerCraft
L959[19:47:54] <Kenny> takes to long to
mine
L960[19:48:01] <JZTech101> too big?
L961[19:48:01] <ShadowKatStudios> D:
L962[19:48:04] <JZTech101> o,o
L963[19:48:08] <JZTech101> Kenny:
explain
L964[19:48:25] <Kenny> a 16x16 quarry
takes a bout 20 mins irl to mine
L965[19:48:29] <JZTech101> I expected
complains about OPness
L966[19:48:32] <JZTech101> lol
L967[19:48:49] <Kenny> a 64x64 would take
over an hour
L968[19:49:00] <Kenny> almost an hour and
a half
L969[19:49:06] <JZTech101> Indeed. But you
get resources throughout that entire hour
L970[19:49:16] <JZTech101> because the ore
gen happesn from 0 -> 64
L971[19:49:25] <JZTech101> S oeven at y
level 64
L972[19:49:30] <JZTech101> you'd still
have resources coming in
L973[19:49:32] <Cisien> well, that
explains why this didn't work even when i specified scala-library
in my classpath :)
L974[19:49:35] <Cisien> thanks for the
help guys
L975[19:49:36] <Kenny> but a 64x64 the way
i do it is too much hassle
L976[19:49:56] <Kenny> np, Cisien
L977[19:50:01] <JZTech101> Kenny: perhaps.
But this is the best I can do without their being more stone then
ore :/
L978[19:50:09] <JZTech101> more ore than
stone*
L979[19:50:19] <Kenny> you have bc in the
pack right?
L980[19:50:27] <JZTech101> yeh
L981[19:50:41] <Kenny> a diamond sort pipe
and a void pipe :P
L982[19:50:56] <Kenny> void the cobble,
dirt, sand, and gravel
L983[19:51:11] <Kenny> all you get are
ores
L984[19:51:16] <JZTech101> Right
L985[19:51:19] <JZTech101> but the thing
is
L986[19:51:25] <JZTech101> When I made it
anymore than 10
L987[19:51:35] <JZTech101> the entire
underground was pretty much ores
L988[19:51:52] <JZTech101> Basically,
there are 20 veins of 10 in each and every chunk
L989[19:51:57] <Kenny> see i don't mine
the landscape, i deep sea mine
L990[19:52:00] ⇦
Quits: ShadowKatStudios
(~chatzilla@c211-31-42-102.rochd5.qld.optusnet.com.au) (Ping
timeout: 190 seconds)
L991[19:52:49] <Kenny> and with MC there
is a lot of water area to mine
L992[19:53:15] <Kenny> so i don't destroy
the countryside
L993[19:53:20] <JZTech101>
Actually...
L994[19:53:27] <JZTech101> The new uqarry
fron ExU
L995[19:53:29] <JZTech101> fixes
that
L996[19:53:33] <JZTech101> you don't
destory the country side
L997[19:53:36] <Cisien> is 1.2 for 1.6.4
the same (feature wise) as 2.0 for 1.7?
L998[19:53:40] <JZTech101> it replaces
verything it mines with dirt
L999[19:53:55] <JZTech101> so the 64x64
chunk you mined? its now full of dirt
L1000[19:53:59] <JZTech101> it doesn't
touch trees though
L1001[19:54:01] <JZTech101> or anything
like that
L1002[19:54:06] <JZTech101> the landscape
stays intact
L1003[19:54:34] <Sangar> Cisien: is 1.2
for 1.6.4 the same (feature wise) as 2.0 for 1.7? yes.
L1004[19:54:46] <Cisien> nice
L1005[19:55:04] <Cisien> 1.7 has me
spoiled, no block ids to care about :)
L1006[19:55:15] <Kenny> you just don't
have power sources yet
L1007[19:55:27] <Cisien> ya
L1008[19:55:36] <Cisien> well, buildcraft
just released a beta
L1009[19:55:40]
⇨ Joins: ShadowKatStudios
(~chatzilla@c211-31-42-102.rochd5.qld.optusnet.com.au)
L1010[19:55:44] <Cisien> so time to kick
calclavia :)
L1011[19:55:46] <Kenny> so you change the
config to not require power sources
L1012[19:56:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Sorry
about that, bumped my HDD
L1013[19:56:07] <Sangar> config: you
don't, actually. if ue3 isn't there power is disabled
automatically.
L1014[19:56:07] <Cisien> it's configured
to require power, but no UE lib automatically disables it
L1015[19:56:17] <Sangar> heh
L1016[19:56:20] <ShadowKatStudios> How
would I disable a recipe for a mod?
L1017[19:56:37] <Kenny> learn to
code?
L1018[19:56:44] <Sangar> "a
mod" or oc?
L1019[19:56:44] <Cisien>
ShadowKatStudios, depends on the mod, there are mods that let you
tweak recipes
L1020[19:56:55] <JZTech101> annnd irc
just crashed
L1021[19:56:57] <JZTech101>
>_>
L1022[19:56:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I want
to disable computercraft computers
L1023[19:57:12] *
Kenny is in a 'smart ass' mood right now hehe
L1024[19:57:16] <Cisien> remove
computercraft?
L1025[19:57:29] <ShadowKatStudios> So I
can use OpenPeripheral stuff but without ComputerCraft
L1026[19:57:43] <JZTech101> Also Kenny,
I've set the optional mods as .disabled
L1027[19:57:47] <JZTech101> MultiMC
should ignore it
L1028[19:57:48] <Kenny> Cisien: doing
that takes away the OC ability to access stuff thru the
adapter
L1029[19:57:55] <JZTech101> however I
haven't tested it
L1030[19:57:57] <Cisien> oh, meh
L1031[19:58:24] <Kenny> hence he wants to
disable being able to build CC cmputers
L1032[19:59:12] <Kenny> ShadowKatStudios:
the only way to do that which i can think of would be to decompile
the mod and do it from within
L1034[19:59:24] <^v> but i like CC
L1035[19:59:31] <Kenny> CC sucks
L1036[19:59:39] <^v> i like CC
L1037[19:59:39] <ShadowKatStudios> It
isn't good for the careful balance I've created.
L1038[20:00:20] <Kenny> it's limited and
he has added in anything really new for a long time
L1039[20:00:26] <Kenny> hasn't*
L1040[20:00:27] <ShadowKatStudios>
'Careful Balance' = hah, balance? I'm not big on duplicating
functionality
L1041[20:01:52] <Kenny> i agree with
you
L1043[20:02:19] <JZTech101> I really
don't want CC in my pack. But I'm left no choice :/
L1044[20:02:26] <JZTech101> Sangar: or
Minetweak
L1045[20:02:29] <JZTech101> I like
Minetweak
L1046[20:02:49] <Kenny> you do know who
is eriting that don't you, Sangar? :)
L1047[20:02:53] <Kenny> writing*
L1048[20:03:14] <Kenny> the dev of
RiM
L1049[20:03:14] <Sangar> i do :P i don't
really care for authors as long as the mod gets the job done
L1050[20:03:57] <Sangar> i know many
people dislike him. i personally don't have a problem with
him.
L1051[20:04:12] <JZTech101> I just don't
understand why people dislike him
L1052[20:04:13] <ShadowKatStudios>
^
L1053[20:04:27] <JZTech101> what he
believes in, is really his culture
L1054[20:04:50] <JZTech101> What you
believe in is your culture
L1055[20:04:53] <JZTech101> simple as
that
L1056[20:05:10] <JZTech101> Who gives a
damn between cultures? Just live life as is :/
L1057[20:05:31] <ShadowKatStudios> jakj
makes good mods, that's what matters to me :P
L1058[20:05:57] <Sangar> i actually had a
pretty nice discussion with him on the benefits / downsides of apis
vs. reflection an how to / where to use them. made me get a new
view on things. which is always a good thing.
L1059[20:06:41] <JZTech101> For me, I
legitmately see no differece between him saying "you should be
raped", then "you're stupid". Its an insult. Nothing
personal. Yet, people are repulsed by him. I cannot
comprehend
L1060[20:08:35] <JZTech101> oh hey Kenny,
can you add an option to OpenComponents to disable CC
recipes?
L1061[20:08:37] <JZTech101> o,o
L1062[20:09:44] <ShadowKatStudios>
^Optionally just the computer
L1063[20:09:49] <^v> you can also remove
CC
L1065[20:09:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I
wouldn't mine a printer.
L1066[20:09:56] <Kenny> i didn't write
OpenComponents
L1067[20:09:57] <Sangar> let's not go
there... this sounds like it's way too easy to lead to something
like tc vs gt. if anything, write an extra mod that can disable
specific recipes.
L1068[20:10:06] <ShadowKatStudios>
Mind*
L1069[20:10:27] <JZTech101> Sangar: its
an option, and its off by default
L1070[20:10:30] <JZTech101> whats the big
deal?
L1071[20:10:33] <JZTech101> lol
L1072[20:10:47] <Sangar> the stick change
in gt is also an option. people went ballistic.
L1073[20:10:56] <JZTech101> Sangar: that
was on by default
L1074[20:10:58] <JZTech101> thats
why
L1075[20:11:27] <ShadowKatStudios> This
could be interesting
L1076[20:11:33] <Sangar> good point.
still, i think it might warrant an extra mod (isn't there anything
like that already?)
L1077[20:12:20] <JZTech101> Actually
Kenny mentioned something about just creating a dummy mod
L1078[20:12:25] <JZTech101> that pretends
to be CC
L1079[20:12:42] <Kenny> i did not
L1080[20:12:49] <JZTech101> I personally
would not mind that. However, I will not be the one to create that
nor take responsibility for it
L1081[20:12:56] <Cisien> what's stopping
you from just not using computercraft?
L1082[20:13:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Maybe
I should make a mod that kills the player if they try to make a
computer for the fun :P Be a good reason to learn to write
java
L1083[20:13:27] <JZTech101> Cisien: CC
compat with OC depends on CC
L1084[20:13:33] <Kenny> damn how did this
conversation go south so fast
L1085[20:13:39] <Cisien> right, have the
mod installed, but just don't use it?
L1086[20:13:49] <ShadowKatStudios>
Cisien: The reason I don't want to use it is because I run a server
and if people can go cheap on CC, they'll just ignore OC
L1087[20:13:56] <JZTech101> Cisien: thats
all nice and pretty, except I'm mamking a modpack
L1088[20:14:10] <JZTech101> And right
now.. it just doesn't feel right with CC AND OC
L1089[20:14:19] <JZTech101> the duplicate
mod feeling :/
L1090[20:14:26] <Cisien> good point
L1091[20:14:37] <Cisien> there are
several mods that let you tweak recipes?
L1092[20:14:49] *
ShadowKatStudios is investigating MineTweaker
L1093[20:14:58] <Cisien> that's the one i
was thinking of
L1094[20:15:06] <JZTech101> I'm friends
with the people who make it
L1095[20:15:23] <JZTech101> I'm just
debating whether I want to go down that path
L1096[20:15:56] <JZTech101> since CC is
made by some people like cloudy who could easily decide to revoke
CC perms from my pack for that
L1097[20:16:14] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
just not use CC peripherals
L1098[20:16:17] <JZTech101> or worse be a
dick and get forgecraft to revoke perms
L1099[20:16:26]
⇦ Quits: ^v (~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:99c0:c6d4:efdc:3703)
(Quit: Leaving)
L1100[20:17:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
is CC neccesary to use CC peripherals with OC? I thought I saw the
CC API in the OC github
L1101[20:17:24] <JZTech101>
OpenPeripheral depends on CC
L1102[20:17:26] <JZTech101> so...
yeh
L1103[20:17:55] <Cisien> the api is
probably just a shell
L1104[20:19:00] <Sangar> even if the api
comes with some other mod, i'd say its not unlikely for cc specific
functionality being stripped out (via fml's class transformer - i
use it for a bunch of stuff to avoid having to ship apis myself,
would expect others to do the same)
L1105[20:19:59] <Cisien> i'm sure
openperipherals could be extended to work with OC
L1106[20:20:08] <Cisien> i think i've
seen a few feature requests run accross their issue tracker
L1107[20:20:26] <Cisien> if enough people
ask :)
L1108[20:21:18] <JZTech101> Cisien: then
there is stuff like bigreactors
L1109[20:21:21] <JZTech101> thaumic
tinkerer
L1110[20:21:26] <JZTech101> so on and s
oforth
L1111[20:21:34] <JZTech101> CC support
all over the damn place
L1112[20:23:19] <Sangar> yeah, i've
posted in that. i've a had a deeper look into the internals of
openperipherals, and i really didn't quite understand what exactly
happened in there, so it won't be me. in fact, i'm not sure it
would be all that realistic, since the oc api pretty much abstracts
everything lua specific away, cc does not (and provides some more
specific functionality due to that - functionality oc couldn't
anyway, due to persistence).
L1113[20:25:19] <Sangar> i'm off to bed
for today, gnight.
L1114[20:25:25] <JZTech101> night
L1115[20:25:26] <Wired2coffee> Night
Sangar!
L1116[20:30:19] <Cisien> g'night
L1117[20:37:25] <ShadowKatStudios>
Aaarrrggghhh I didn't even know feet could get sunburned
L1118[20:38:01] <ShadowKatStudios> And it
was only 15 mins in the sun D:
L1119[20:42:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Woo,
my server's pack is now v1.1 :D
L1120[20:45:47] <Kenny> i know that they
can. remember the blisters from when it happened
L1121[21:06:33] <Cisien> you must not be
in the northern hemisphere
L1122[21:15:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Quite
the opposite
L1123[21:15:27] <ShadowKatStudios> I'd
like to say that I hate summer.
L1124[21:34:01]
⇨ Joins: finkmac
(~finkmac@66.212.182.33.tor.pathcom.com)
L1126[21:47:48]
⇨ Joins: mallrat208 (Mibbit@68.204.184.175)
L1127[22:14:22] ***
SuPeRMiNoR2|Away is now known as SuPeRMiNoR2
L1128[22:31:14] ***
SuPeRMiNoR2 is now known as SuPeRMiNoR2|Away
L1129[22:36:51] ***
LordFokas|out is now known as LordFokas
L1130[22:40:12] ***
LordFokas is now known as LordFokas|off
L1131[22:53:58] <Kenny> Cisien: SKS is
from down under hehe
L1132[22:54:18] <Cisien> :)
L1133[22:56:01] <Kenny> Travelling in a
fried-out Kombi
L1134[22:56:02] <Kenny> On a hippie
trail, head full of zombie
L1135[22:56:04] <Kenny> I met a strange
lady, she made me nervous
L1136[22:56:06] <Kenny> She took me in
and gave me breakfast
L1137[22:56:08] <Kenny> And she
said:
L1138[22:56:12] <Kenny> "Do you come
from a land down under
L1139[22:56:13] <Kenny> Where women glow
and men plunder
L1140[22:56:15] <Kenny> Can't you hear,
can't you hear the thunder
L1141[22:56:17] <Kenny> You better run,
you better take cover."
L1142[22:56:21] <Kenny> Buying bread from
a man in Brussels
L1143[22:56:22] <Kenny> He was six foot
four and full of muscle
L1144[22:56:24] <Kenny> I said, "Do
you speak-a my language?"
L1145[22:56:26] <Kenny> He just smiled
and gave me a Vegemite sandwich
L1146[22:56:28] <Kenny> And he
said:
L1147[22:56:34] <Kenny> hehe
L1148[22:57:01] <mallrat208> Oh
gods
L1149[22:57:58] <Kenny> Everyone's
watching to see what you will do
L1150[22:58:00] <Kenny> Everyone's
looking at you, oh
L1151[22:58:02] <Kenny> Everyone's
wondering will you come out tonight
L1152[22:58:04] <Kenny> Everyone's trying
to get it right, get it right
L1153[22:58:07] <Kenny> Everybody's
working for the weekend
L1154[22:58:09] <Kenny> Everybody wants a
new romance
L1155[22:58:11] <Kenny> Everybody's going
off the deep end
L1156[22:58:13] <Kenny> Everybody needs a
second chance, oh
L1157[22:58:34] <Kenny> and the one that
fits me hehe
L1158[22:58:44] <Kenny> Way back up in
the country
L1159[22:58:46] <Kenny> Back in the
hills
L1160[22:58:48] <Kenny> Down in the
hollows where the folks are real
L1161[22:58:50] <Kenny> Livin' with the
crazzies and the old wildcats
L1162[22:58:52] <Kenny> Sawed off
shotguns and coonskin caps
L1163[22:58:53] <Kenny> That's where I'm
from and I'm proud to say
L1164[22:58:55] <Kenny> I'm from the
country and I like it that way
L1165[23:01:41]
⇦ Quits: Lathanael|Away
(~Lathanael@p54973526.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 380
seconds)
L1166[23:01:58] <Kenny> ID3
L1167[23:02:00] <Kenny>
!$')+.1358;=@BEHJMORTWY\^adfhknqsux{}
¡¤¦¨«®°²µ¸»½ÀÂÅÇÊÍÏÑÔ×ÚÜÞáäæèëîðòõøúý
L1168[23:02:01] <Kenny> V*! ô-ô A
AÍ/
JO
ÈDÕ#.p÷ø`ûRp_JÛgedɀÒ
L1169[23:02:02] <Kenny>
(³@ø&ò`< @"&øÞ+8ð~B^¡
L1170[23:02:03] <Kenny>
ÑôZá
y¢q»çü§ý?bdijwh¯#m"*ҳ]i'\ø}#î\?êöö
L1171[23:02:04] <Kenny>
CnQذ»Í(º¬7ûàêԪ!ÁuÌE&àY¸#èÝ#HhΗGٽ£Uºþølw2ãM
L1172[23:02:05] <Kenny> ké8Ð
L1173[23:02:06] <Kenny>
å-JXÂGK4u!õb(ګS¡o¾¤b?þ_ÿíÁ¯/7ªÜtæ>4ÎZ`~J
L1174[23:02:07] <Kenny>
(@h.8ЁPK7ÕîrCË$
L1175[23:02:08] <Kenny> È
L1176[23:02:09] <Kenny> ÿûD
L1177[23:02:24] <Kenny> something didn't
do right
L1178[23:02:37] <Kenny> that wasn't
supposed to play to the channel
L1179[23:05:21] <Michiyo> wat :/
L1180[23:05:43] <Kenny> it started play
an mp3 to the channel hehe
L1181[23:05:55]
⇨ Joins: Lathanael|Away
(~Lathanael@p54973DD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L1182[23:06:03] *
Michiyo slowclap
L1183[23:06:03] <Kenny> i forgotr to
change iot from play to splay
L1184[23:08:50] <Kenny> Way back up in
the country
L1185[23:08:52] <Kenny> Back in the
hills
L1186[23:08:54] <Kenny> Down in the
hollows where the folks are real
L1187[23:08:56] <Kenny> Livin' with the
crazzies and the old wildcats
L1188[23:08:57] <Kenny> Sawed off
shotguns and coonskin caps
L1189[23:08:59] <Kenny> That's where I'm
from and I'm proud to say
L1190[23:09:01] <Kenny> I'm from the
country and I like it that way
L1191[23:09:31] <Kenny> :P i know how to
do it, i just forgot to xchnage the play to splay so i could listen
to some songs hehe
L1192[23:16:07] <Kenny> i'm through for
the night. heading to bed
L1193[23:16:12] <Kenny> night all
L1194[23:16:21] ***
Kenny is now known as Kenny|Sleeping
L1195[23:24:53] ***
AngieBLD is now known as AngieBLD|Off
L1196[23:30:44]
⇨ Joins: Vooloo
(~adad@78-72-42-123-no186.tbcn.telia.com)
L1197[23:31:04] <Vooloo> hi, sweeet
looking mod. How does one create a server/mainframe which clients
connect to?
L1198[23:35:35]
⇨ Joins: Ir7_o (~JBouncer@irocast.net)
L1199[23:35:35]
zsh sets mode: +o on Ir7_o
L1200[23:36:01]
Ir7_o sets mode: +v on Ir7_o
L1201[23:36:12]
Ir7_o sets mode: -o on Ir7_o
L1202[23:36:30] <mallrat208> Vooloo: When
you find out let me know
L1203[23:36:45] <Forecaster> Vooloo:
you'll need to be a bit more specific
L1204[23:36:54] <Vooloo> there is no
rednet thingy?
L1205[23:37:07] <Forecaster> "rednet
thingy"?
L1206[23:37:18] <Forecaster> there's
wireless and wired network capability
L1207[23:37:28] <Vooloo> I want one
central computer, and clients that are located somewhere else,
where I can connect to the "main server" wirelessly as if
I was standing on the central server
L1208[23:37:44] <Vooloo> basically, a
remote terminal
L1209[23:39:11] <mallrat208> You'd set up
a server, run the cable and hook a keyboard and a monitor to it
iirc.
L1210[23:39:24] <Vooloo> cable is not
remote
L1211[23:39:25] <Vooloo> lol
L1212[23:39:35] <Vooloo> I want like 3-5
terminals in the world
L1213[23:39:35] <Forecaster> yes it
is
L1214[23:39:43] <Vooloo> like 1000+
blocks apart!
L1215[23:39:48] <mallrat208>
Yeah...
L1216[23:42:20] <mallrat208> I don't
think you're going to be doing that
L1217[23:42:45] <Forecaster> I don't
think the cables work across unloaded chunks
L1218[23:43:24] <Vooloo> computercraft
has wireless modems that you can connect
L1219[23:43:42] <Vooloo> so you code a
server program and a client program
L1220[23:43:44] <mallrat208> Not that
far
L1221[23:43:45] <Forecaster> as I said,
there's wired and wireless network capability
L1222[23:44:45] <mallrat208> even CC has
a hard limit for distance.. Absolute best case is like 385~
blocks
L1223[23:45:15] <Vooloo> maybe I can code
an extender program
L1224[23:45:25] <Vooloo> send/recieve
data
L1225[23:45:33] <Forecaster> you'd need
relays every now and then
L1226[23:45:36] <mallrat208> multiple
extenders that'd have to be chunkloaded
L1227[23:45:38] <Forecaster> in both CC
and OC
L1228[23:45:43] <Vooloo> ya