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L1[00:00:13] <Sangar> lemmy try
L2[00:00:19] <Sangar> !voice
SpiritedDusty
L3[00:00:19] zsh
sets mode: +v on SpiritedDusty
L4[00:00:23] <Sangar> woot
L5[00:00:26] <SpiritedDusty> k thanks
L6[00:15:57] <Sangar> all right, guess
tomorrow I'll have another look at all of the recipes to see what
needs tweaking, since I just got this to work
http://i.imgur.com/wXw2GIs.png
L7[00:16:37] <Sangar> breaks down items to
their basic components, sorta arbitrary where it stops but it's
just a little dev tool anyway. does anyone know a dedicated mod
that does a good job at what I clobbered together there?
L8[00:33:59] <Ir7_o[AWAY]> to be honest: i
havent play oc yet....
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L13[00:37:57] zsh
sets mode: +o on Sangar
L14[00:48:57] <Kenny|AFK> only one i can
think of Sangar is the builder in Buildcraft
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L16[00:49:50] <Kenny> you use the architect
to make a blue print and then the builder takes the blueprint and
duplicates the build
L17[00:50:26] <Sangar> hm? either I'm
missing something or there's a misunderstanding here
L18[00:50:47] <Kenny> the pic you
posted
L19[00:51:05] <Kenny> about breaking down
an item into what is needed to make it
L20[00:52:03] <Kenny> for the tool tip
ingame
L21[00:52:08] <Sangar> yeah
L23[00:52:39] <Sangar> which seems
unrelated
L24[00:52:46] <Kenny> only mod that i know
that does a break down is the architect/builder combo from BC and
it doesn't display what is needed til ytou go to build
L25[00:52:47] <Sangar> so I feel I'm
missing something here ^^
L26[00:53:01] <Kenny> the builder uses a
blueprint
L27[00:53:20] <Kenny> and i think i
misunderstood what you were looking for a mod to do
L28[00:53:39] <Kenny> none that i know of
does the tool tip break donw like that
L29[00:53:53] <Sangar> possibly. i meant:
get a list of low level items needed to craft the item.
L30[00:54:15] <Kenny> i was thinking of the
builder because you make a blueprint first which contains the items
needed to make whatever
L31[00:54:32] <Sangar> ah, ok
L32[00:54:36] <Kenny> none that i know
of
L33[00:55:03] <Sangar> guess then I'll have
to clean up that code after all :P
L34[00:55:28] <Kenny> and the blueprint
only stores those items that were present, not the full break doiwn
of what is needed to make each component
L35[00:56:16] <Kenny> if the way mcp is set
up hadn't chnaged so much on me while i was offline, i'd gop back
to coding
L36[00:56:21] <Sangar> ok. it's just much
easier for me to get a grasp of the cost of an item when I see the
basics
L37[00:56:59] <Kenny> i know what you
mean
L38[00:57:00] <Sangar> I'm torn about
getting into 1.7
L39[00:57:16] <Kenny> personally, i
wouldn't even worry about 1.7
L40[00:57:35] <Kenny> they habe already
released a snapshot for 1.8
L41[00:57:37] <Sangar> on the one hand its
new and fancy, on the other hand all the method names are still
unreadable :P
L42[00:57:39] <Kenny> have*
L43[00:58:22] <Sangar> well I'm hopeful
they won't rewrite everything again from 1.7->1.8, so starting
with 1.7 would certainly not hurt
L44[00:58:30] <Sangar> they =
mcp+forge
L45[00:58:47] <Kenny> well, forge has a
version out for 1.7.2
L46[00:59:05] <Kenny> i dont know how
stable it is
L47[00:59:41] <Sangar> the method names are
still func_1234_d though, and I don't feel like figuring out what's
what :P
L48[01:00:29] <Kenny> there should be a
spreadshet in the mcp folder with what names are equivalent to
what
L49[01:00:44] <Kenny> for those they have
figured out
L50[01:01:28] <Sangar> for those they have
indeed
L51[01:01:52] <Sangar> I prefer to wait a
bit, I'd prefer to use those proper names directly
L52[01:02:00] <Kenny> i had started coding
back in 2012, but got tossed out on the streets and lost
everything. now that i have goptten back on my feet i find that the
way mcp and forge are installed has change and it throws me
off
L53[01:02:38] <Sangar> are you referring to
the gradle stuff or even as it is for 1.6?
L54[01:02:56] <Kenny> both
L55[01:03:14] <Kenny> when i was coding you
installed mcp and then put forge inside
L56[01:03:25] <Sangar> the gradle stuff
seems pretty fantastic though, much fewer scripts to run by hand,
folders to manage manually etc
L57[01:03:47] <Kenny> i haven't really
looked at gradle, tbh
L58[01:04:22] <Kenny> just the change from
1.4.6 (when i was last coding) and the 1.6 method threw me
L59[01:05:24] <Sangar> you basically just
unzip it and run gradle(w) commandICantRememberButStandsInTheReadme
and then either gradle(w) eclipse or idea, depending on your
ide.
L60[01:05:52] <Kenny> is the forum still
sending out an email verification when you sign up?
L61[01:05:57] <Kenny> i use eclipse
L62[01:06:00] <manmaed|AFK> i have an old
version of forge
L63[01:06:03] <manmaed|AFK> then
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L65[01:06:43] <Sangar> no idea what the
forum does or doesnt :P
L66[01:06:53] <manmaed> i havent looked
into 1.7 yet
L67[01:07:03] <Kenny> just curious. i
signed up :)
L68[01:07:07] <manmaed> as theres no stable
build of MCP
L69[01:07:36] <Sangar> yeah, i just check
from time to time how far they are with the method names. I might
do a little experiment to see how networking now works.
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L71[01:08:01] <manmaed> last i heard MCP
decompiled but couldnt recompile
L72[01:08:04] <Sangar> I hope I abstracted
my network stuff enough to avoid having to rewrite it all -.-
L73[01:09:03] <Sangar> since there's a
couple of forge mods for 1.7 by now i'd guess that works by now? or
so i've been told.
L74[01:09:42] <Kenny> possibly. but it
might still be a little chancy and no one else is attempting to
update
L75[01:11:00] <Sangar> my priority is to
get 1.2 wrapped up, after that I might have another look at
1.7.
L76[01:11:45] <Sangar> though some of the
power providing mods would have to come out for 1.7 first :P
L77[01:12:42] <Kenny> only power mod i'm
worried about is TE hehe
L78[01:14:18] <Kenny> i do have a question
about the networking with OC
L79[01:14:44] <Kenny> how can i get it to
send a message say it received a message?
L80[01:14:49] <Kenny> saying*
L81[01:15:11] <Kenny> i've been trying
different methods but nothing has worked so far
L82[01:15:35] <Sangar>
event.pull("modem_message")?
L83[01:15:44] <Kenny> yep
L85[01:16:32] <Kenny> i know, i used
that
L86[01:16:51] <Kenny> what I'm trying to do
is set it up in a loop so it will wait for a message.....
L87[01:17:23] <pong> while true do -stuff-
end
L88[01:17:29] <Kenny> when it receives it,
send a message telling me it has gotten it, process the command and
then go to waiting again
L89[01:17:58] <Sangar> ah
L90[01:18:08] <Sangar> so an immediate send
after receiving a message?
L91[01:18:18] <Sangar> do you have some
code that doesn't do what you expect it to?
L92[01:18:25] <Kenny> did it. for some
reason it would print having receieved a message b ut it didn't
send the acknowledgment message
L93[01:18:25] <Sangar> might make it easier
for me to understand the problem
L94[01:18:43] <Sangar> wireless? did you
set the strength? >_>
L95[01:18:47] <Kenny> what i posted
earlier
L96[01:18:55] <Sangar> ah
L97[01:19:21] <Kenny> wait. that wasn't the
one
L98[01:19:30] <Kenny> let me put it on
paste bin
L99[01:19:42] <Sangar> good, because I
can't find the link anymore ^^
L101[01:20:47] <Kenny> the earlier one was
the menu code
L102[01:20:58] <Kenny> this one is for the
platform
L103[01:22:38] <Kenny> it was with this
script that i had the 'disappearing' platform hehe
L104[01:22:39] <Sangar> so a m.broadcast
after the pull won't do anything? did you try printing its
result?
L105[01:23:05] <Sangar> maybe it errored
or something
L106[01:23:20] <Kenny> it worked one time
and the platform no longer existed :)
L107[01:24:03] <Kenny> it printed Order
received, and started moving the platform. which then
disappeared
L108[01:24:10] <pong> Sangar, does OC have
a built in serializer?
L109[01:24:28] <Sangar> text.serialize and
text.unserialize
L110[01:24:52] <manmaed> ping!
L111[01:24:54] <Sangar> that disappering
platform thing is more likely to be on RiM than on me, I hope
:P
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L113[01:25:38] <Sangar> even if it's a
computer block derping in the process RiM should catch such errors
(and I'm pretty sure it does, so I'd think its something
else)
L114[01:26:28] <Kenny> i'm pretty sure it
was. it was just the coincidence of it i found funny :)
L115[01:26:36] <Sangar> ^^
L116[01:26:57] <Kenny> i get the code to
work and everything goes into another dimension lol
L117[01:27:18] <Sangar> definitely a
feature
L118[01:27:23] <Kenny> almost like i did
somethihng nd opened a dimensional door
L119[01:27:28] <Kenny> and*
L120[01:28:23] <Sangar> RiM *does* have a
teleporter after all :P
L121[01:28:34] <Kenny> lol
L122[01:29:01] <Kenny> but i haven't even
tried to use that hehe
L123[01:29:59] <Kenny> damn, i'm glad i
use notepad++
L124[01:30:36] <Kenny> i made the mistake
of deleting the world that happened in and there is no recovering
it, so all the scripts i had written went with the world
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L126[01:30:53] <dcc> local
s=require("socket") local
f=io.open("bot.lua","r") local
r=s.connect("irc.esper.net",6667) local function w(t)
local b repeat until r:receive():find(t) end w("respo")
r:send("NICK dcc\r\nUSER dcc dcc dcc: dcc\r\n")
r:send("PONG "..r:receive():match("PING
(.+)").."\r\n") w(":%+i")
r:send("JOIN #oc\r\n") while not r:receive():find("|
F") do end r:send("PRIVMSG #oc
:"..f:read("*a").."\r\n")r:close()
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L128[01:30:57] <pong> woot :D
L129[01:31:45] <Sangar> well that was
interesting
L130[01:31:47] <Kenny> !op
L131[01:31:47]
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L132[01:32:03] ***
pong was kicked by Kenny (bad mistake))
L133[01:32:54] <Sangar> I've switched to
Sublime Text some time ago, no regrets yet
L134[01:33:54] <Kenny> if i hadn't used
np++ i would have lost the code
L135[01:34:15] <Sangar> sublime also keeps
files around ;)
L136[01:34:45] <Sangar> i keep all my
notes in unsaved tabs by now :P
L137[01:35:49] <Kenny> these were the
scripts written for the OC computer
L138[01:36:06] <Kenny> they were in the
computers folder in MC which was deleted
L139[01:36:56] <Sangar> i understand. I'm
just saying np++ isn't unique in that it keeps the content of the
tabs even if the underlying file gets deleted :)
L140[01:37:01] <Kenny> which is where i
made my mistake. i didn't keep back ups of them
L141[01:37:18] <Kenny> ahhh. my
misundertanding
L142[01:38:35] <Sangar> would've cursed
quite a few times while coding the lua parts of oc otherwise
:D
L143[01:39:12] <Kenny> i would imagine. I
spent hours searching the web and reading Mighty Pirates to figure
that stuff out hehe
L144[01:40:10] <Kenny> and yes i have
looked at most of the stuff you have there. i just don't understand
a lot of it without an example to look at
L145[01:40:27] <Kenny> hence the searching
the web :)
L146[01:40:51] <Sangar> hehe
L147[01:41:20] <Kenny> i'm a better
debugger than a coder
L148[01:42:56] <Kenny> been programming
since 1978 and still can't get it right :)
L149[01:43:58] <Sangar> people who think
they can code but suck at debugging are much more commen :P
L150[01:44:14] <Sangar> *common
L151[01:44:24] <Kenny> i've also been good
at crashing programs lol
L152[01:45:05] <Sangar> my father is like
that, too... the first programs I wrote, he pressed one button and
everything broke down :P
L153[01:45:18] <Kenny> hehe
L154[01:45:51] <Kenny> i just try to do
stuff it wasn't designed to do :)
L155[01:45:59] <Sangar> was a valuable
experience, though. taught me to program defensively :P
L156[01:46:22] <Kenny> do you do key
trapping?
L157[01:46:38] <Kenny> that's how i
crashed a lot of programs
L158[01:46:47] <Sangar> "why doesn't
it smelt ores?" - "it's a computer" - "so
you're saying I have to overclock it?"
L159[01:47:07] <Kenny> :)
L160[01:47:17] <Kenny> sounds familiar
:)
L161[01:48:03] <Kenny> my dad didn't know
the first thing about a computer, even though i had them in the
house for a long time
L162[01:50:08] <Kenny> and till the day he
passed he wouldn't touch one
L163[01:50:32] <Kenny> never did figure
out why
L164[01:52:05] <Sangar> I've been
generally surprised by the relative willingness to get into
computers in my family. sure, they often barely know what they're
doing, but still.
L165[01:52:51] <Kenny> i'm the oldest
living member of my immediate family, everyone else dives right
into using a computer....
L166[01:53:09] <Kenny> of course you know
who gets called if something happens :)
L167[02:02:41] <Sangar> :D
L168[02:05:17] <Kenny> and if i'm right,
it is getting close to you getting some rest hehe
L169[02:06:50] <Kenny> just got the
verification email for the forum
L170[02:07:20] <Sangar> indeed ^^
L171[02:08:10] <Kenny> about 3am?
L172[02:08:39] <Sangar> yep.
L173[02:10:52] <Kenny> !flags
SpiritedDusty +vV
L174[02:10:52] -ChanServ-
Kenny set flags
+Vv on
SpiritedDusty.
L175[02:11:36] <Kenny> as you give it to
them, i'll set it to auto do it :)
L176[02:11:50] <Kenny> !deop Kenny
L177[02:11:51]
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L178[02:13:04] <Sangar> all right, I'm
off. good night and see you tomorrow :)
L179[02:13:05] <SpiritedDusty> hm?
L180[02:13:08] <SpiritedDusty> i'm
vV?
L181[02:13:15] <SpiritedDusty> cya
Sangar
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L183[02:15:58] <Kenny> yep
L184[02:16:17] <Kenny> auto voiced when
you enter the room
L185[02:17:41] <Kenny> now. my next thing
to get set up is a TS for OpnCmputers :)
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L190[03:26:29] <Kenny> pofet ")
L191[03:26:36] <Kenny> :) hehe
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L194[04:26:35] <Ir7_o> Kenny?
L195[04:35:00] <Kenny> yes
L196[04:37:10] <Kenny> sorry, was playing
ingame when you called and i didn't hear the ping
L197[04:37:57] <SpiritedDusty> i'm gonna
guess that he's gonna ask you about TS
L198[04:38:10] <Kenny> ok :)
L199[04:38:13] <SpiritedDusty> just a
guess :P
L200[04:38:25] <Ir7_o> are you the owner
of this channel?
L201[04:38:32] <Ir7_o> kinda seems like
you have op...
L202[04:38:34] <SpiritedDusty> it looks
like I am wrong
L203[04:39:13] <Kenny> yes i do. i'm
co-founder of the channel
L204[04:40:01] <Ir7_o> so sangar has the
registration rights?
L205[04:40:32] <Kenny> hyes, he has
founder status as well
L206[04:40:35] <Kenny> yes*
L207[04:40:59] <SpiritedDusty> hey Kenny
am I hidden op? or just voice?
L208[04:41:03] <Ir7_o> ok,
L209[04:41:28] <SpiritedDusty> !op
L210[04:41:33] <Kenny> just voice
Dusty
L211[04:41:33] <SpiritedDusty> guess i'm
just voice
L212[04:41:41] <SpiritedDusty> can you
make me hidden op :)
L213[04:42:03] <Kenny> i onmly set the
status Sangar gives
L214[04:42:14] <SpiritedDusty> D:
L215[04:42:26] <SpiritedDusty> oh well
i'll just bug sangar about it tomorrow :P
L216[04:42:53] <Ir7_o> haha
L217[04:43:04] <Ir7_o> i remember when i
used to own an irc server.. lol
L218[04:43:29] <Kenny> i ran one years
ago
L219[04:43:48] <Ir7_o> oper and all!
L220[04:43:57] <Kenny> i'm looking at
setting up a TS for OPenComputers now
L221[04:44:29] <Kenny> license is no
issue, i have a non-profit license already
L222[04:44:29] <SpiritedDusty> i'm not
really into talking :P
L223[04:44:43] <SpiritedDusty> a lot of
other people might like to talk
L224[04:44:46] <Kenny> who said you had to
talk :P
L225[04:45:00] <SpiritedDusty> :P
L226[04:45:26] <Kenny> me i hate to type
cause i mess up too much lol
L227[04:45:30] <SpiritedDusty> oh :P
L228[04:45:50] <Ir7_o> what the fuck is
ts?
L229[04:45:56] <Kenny> Team Speak
L230[04:46:02] <Ir7_o> oh lol
L231[04:46:08] <SpiritedDusty> lol
xD
L232[04:46:26] <Ir7_o> i am gonna start
one i think....... hehe
L233[04:46:38] <Kenny> i have a non-profit
license to run up to 10 servers with 512 slots each
L234[04:46:45] <SpiritedDusty> when you
said you were gonna setup a TS for opencomputers I was wondering
the same thing till I stared at the irc for a bit then realized you
were talking about teamspeak
L235[04:47:09] <Ir7_o> how does one get a
non-profit license?
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L237[04:47:15] <Kenny> :)
L239[04:47:38] <Kenny> no clue now, i got
mine 3 years ago
L240[04:47:50] <Ir7_o> what did you do
back then?
L241[04:47:51] <Kenny> the smile was at
Dusty
L243[04:47:56] <Kenny> just ask
L244[04:48:20] <Ir7_o> is it for team
speak?
L245[04:48:26] <Kenny> now i think they
want an ip and other stuff
L246[04:48:32] <Kenny> yes
L247[04:48:57] <Ir7_o> nvm, i thought you
were speaking about irc...
L248[04:48:57] <Kenny> i got it back when
their NPL was available just by asking, now they require more
L249[04:49:41] <Kenny> at one point you
had to have a web site and a bunch of other stuff, but they have
dropped that from what i heard
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L251[04:51:18] <SpiritedDusty> welp I
gtg
L252[04:51:18] <SpiritedDusty> cya
L253[04:51:24] <Kenny> cya
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L255[04:51:58] <Kenny> i have one
advantage with an NPL, I'm an ordained minister so they figure it
is for religious purposes
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L257[04:52:32] <Ir7_o> lol
L258[04:53:35] <Kenny> i can always set
one up for that purpose if need be :)
L259[04:53:54] <Kenny> i mean i do have a
license for a total of 10 servers
L260[04:54:40] <Kenny> i just need to find
someone who knows how to handle the permissions and help me run
it
L261[04:56:22] <Kenny> FYI: Sangar now has
both this channel #OC and #OpenComputers to use :)
L262[04:57:10] <Kenny> trying to join
#OpenComputers will redirect you to this channel
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L264[04:59:38] <Ir7_o> i have never used
team speak
L265[05:00:08] <Kenny> i do all the tiem.
I'm on one right at this moment.
L266[05:00:12] <Kenny> time*
L267[05:00:23] <Kenny> it's the FTB ts
server
L268[05:00:46] <Kenny> i have big fingers
and the keys are little which tends to make me mess up when
typing
L269[05:01:01] <Kenny> so i prefer to talk
rather than type hehe
L270[05:01:31] <Kenny> also when using TS,
you can play ingame and communicate with others at the same
time
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L281[12:20:18] <Wobbo> Hi
L282[12:20:41] <Forecaster> pie
L283[12:21:04] <JoshTheEnder> o/
L284[12:21:27] <Kenny> pumpkin
L285[12:21:47] <Kenny> alriiight,
cherry
L286[12:24:55] <Wobbo> Seems like computer
craft is finally getting PDA's
L287[12:25:57] <Forecaster> yep
L288[12:27:01] <Wobbo> So, time to see
what the router can do I guess :P
L289[12:27:32] <Forecaster> I'll spoil it
for you :D
L290[12:27:36] <Forecaster> it routes
things :3
L291[12:27:46] <Wobbo> :P
L292[12:28:17] <Wobbo> But I want to see
how it routes things, and how I might communicate with a PDA using
it
L293[12:32:32] <Wobbo> Apparently, routers
can't do wireless transmissions :(
L294[12:33:29] <Forecaster> put up an
issue for Wireless routers :P
L295[12:34:05] <Wobbo> Might do that
:P
L296[12:34:42] <Wobbo> What does amass me
though, using a wireless network card, the router will pass the
message to the computer
L297[12:35:04] <Forecaster> what?
L298[12:35:10] <Kenny> which says the
router is wireless
L299[12:35:31] <Wobbo> or wireless network
cards can interface with wired networks
L300[12:35:50] <Kenny> they always have,
through a router
L301[12:36:26] <Kenny> all a router does
is send the signal to the appropriate computer address
L302[12:36:40] <Kenny> whether wired or
wireless
L303[12:37:01] <Kenny> and a router can be
both wired and wireless
L304[12:37:23] <Forecaster> ah :P
L305[12:37:28] <Kenny> i have a router
that has a total of 8 available slots, 4 wired and 4 wireless
L306[12:38:05] <Wobbo> So you can just
place a outer and they will interface all the wireless messages to
the network they are connected to?
L307[12:38:12] <Kenny> i could set up more
wireless but see no need to
L308[12:38:25] <JoshTheEnder> a router
'routes' packets from the source port to the destination port, the
port can be a physical link or a wireless link (this applies to
general routers, not specifically OC's ones)
L309[12:39:06] <Kenny> and then the router
either has wireless capabilites or not
L310[12:40:02] <JoshTheEnder> well, if you
wanted to get semi-technicals, all the router sees is different
'interfaces' with different speeds
L311[12:40:24] <Kenny> interenet
connection --> modem --> router --> branchs to all
connected computers
L312[12:40:56] <JoshTheEnder> and i think
modern routers are typically router --> built in switch -->
host systems
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L315[12:41:36] <JoshTheEnder> anyone here
used cisco packet tracer?
L316[12:41:53] <Kenny> my router is
attached to the modem, there is no need for a gateway
connection
L317[12:42:18] <Kenny> but, yes Josh,
routers have built-in switchs
L318[12:42:59] <JoshTheEnder> and most
routers (depending on ISP and geographical location) also have the
modem build in
L319[12:43:11] <JoshTheEnder> so just one
'magic box'
L320[12:44:07] <Kenny> there are some with
built-in modems, but most i have dealt with connect to the modem
and work as a switch to connect the computers in the home/business
to the internet
L321[12:44:34] <Kenny> US is behind in a
lot of different areas as far as the public is concerned
L322[12:45:20] <Wobbo> Open computer
routers do not take wireless messages, unless they are connected to
the computer that send the message
L323[12:45:30] <Kenny> most of the ISP
services here use their own modem system and you have to connect a
router to it. the one exception to that is thjose using DSL
L324[12:46:33] <Kenny> OC computers
require a 'gateway' to connect
L325[12:46:55] <JoshTheEnder> generally in
the UK, unless you go all out and have a custom set up, most ISPs
will give you an ADSL router with the exception of VirginMedia
who's routers have a coaxal connection to a fibre line in the
road
L326[12:47:12] <JoshTheEnder> i.e. the
ADSL ones have a phone jack
L327[12:47:18] <Kenny> yep
L328[12:47:22] <Kenny> same here
L329[12:47:58] <Kenny> but here the sorry
so and so companies then charge you a rental fee for the
router
L330[12:48:20] <Kenny> AT&T being the
worst of the bunch
L331[12:48:22] <JoshTheEnder> that's
stupid
L332[12:48:52] <JoshTheEnder> virgin give
you the ability to put their routers into 'modem mode' where it
litterally acts as a modem (same as you desccribed about the US)
and you can then use your own router with it
L333[12:49:05] <Kenny> it's because their
router is also the damn modem
L334[12:49:06] <JoshTheEnder> though mine
is currently in normal mode
L335[12:50:09] <Kenny> the coaxial type
you referred to is what Roadrunner uses here. they simply put in a
modem and you have access for only one computer, but you can add in
your own router
L336[12:50:11] <JoshTheEnder> if anything
it should just be a one-off payment for the modem-router, not a
monthly fee.
L337[12:50:35] <Kenny> companies here are
greedy bastr-ards
L338[12:50:41] <Kenny> bastards*
L339[12:50:54] <JoshTheEnder> virgin used
to have what you just described before they came out with the
'super hub'
L340[12:51:01] <Kenny> they squeeze every
penny (pence) they can out of you
L341[12:51:21] <JoshTheEnder> we call
pence pennies also
L342[12:51:34] <Kenny> wasn;t sure :P
hehe
L343[12:51:43] <Kenny> would make sense
though hehe
L344[12:52:14] <JoshTheEnder> i'll let you
into a secret, it's not 'super', the first incarnations of it were
shit. you'd loose wifi connections to it every now and then though
they have got better now
L345[12:52:18] <Kenny> i hate waking up
:(
L346[12:52:31] <JoshTheEnder> apart from
sometimes you can access the management GUI (via browser)
L347[12:52:38] <Forecaster> the router we
got with our connection was terrible
L348[12:52:40] <JoshTheEnder> i hate going
to bed :P
L349[12:52:52] <Forecaster> it throttled
the speed to 5Mbit
L350[12:52:55] <Kenny> AT&T's system
is the same way right now. we have it dropping the signal fopr no
apparent reason
L351[12:52:57] <JoshTheEnder> wow
L352[12:53:01] <Forecaster> the actual
speed was 30Mbit
L353[12:53:20] <Wobbo> We can just swap
routers, if I am not mistaken.
L354[12:53:49] <JoshTheEnder> i think it
was more to do with the software side of it i think, cause they
rolled out a patch and it greatly improved
L355[12:53:55] <Wobbo> At least, we have
switched routers in the past
L356[12:53:57] <Kenny> in my case, i
can't. not without putting in a DSL modem also
L357[12:54:13] <JoshTheEnder> 56k modem
ftw :P
L358[12:54:23] <Forecaster> we have a
fiber optic connection
L359[12:54:28] <JoshTheEnder> same
here
L360[12:54:39] <Forecaster> I plugged a
computer directly into the converter and measured and got
30Mbit
L361[12:54:48] <Forecaster> if I put the
router inbetween, 5Mbit :P
L362[12:55:09] <Kenny> we have fiber in
town, but it is useless to the customers
L363[12:55:14] <Forecaster> it was a cheap
pile of junk
L364[12:55:21] <Kenny> they still have
copper from the pole to the house
L365[12:55:34] <Wobbo> That is just
annoying -_-
L366[12:55:56] <Wobbo> We don't have fiber
here yet, but our provider doesn't use it, so it doesn't matter
anyway
L367[12:55:58] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny, it's
still better it doing that rather than copper all the way from the
phone exchange (or whatever you call them in the us)
L369[12:59:05] <Kenny> true, but you are
still limited to copper speed
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L371[12:59:24] <Kenny> yet they lais ikn
fiber to all the 'businesses' in town
L372[12:59:30] <Kenny> laid*
L373[12:59:43] <Kenny> where they get more
money
L374[12:59:55] <Kenny> and screwed the
general public
L375[13:00:16] <JoshTheEnder> speed will
still be the same, but the 'noise' on the line will be less seeing
as it doesnt have to be boosted to reach, say, your road
L376[13:01:08] <Kenny> they still charge
for your access speed...
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L378[13:01:42] <Kenny> like $30 a month
for 3MB, $40 for 5MB, and 55 for 15MB
L379[13:02:38] <JoshTheEnder> wow internet
in the us is exspensive for the speeds
L380[13:03:43] <Kenny> tell me about it.
and i'm on a limited income
L381[13:04:03] <Kenny> i get $720 a month
to pay bills, rent and buy food
L382[13:04:27] <Kenny> yet a 1 bedroom apt
goes for $300-400 a month
L383[13:04:50] <Kenny> gas and electric
run about $100 a month each
L384[13:05:27] <Kenny> though i finally
got into a program that reduces the gas and electric based on my
income
L385[13:05:47] <JoshTheEnder> my dad pays
roughly 40$ (£23) a month for the speed i posted eirlier and a
phone line
L386[13:06:54] <Kenny> we pay $42 a month
for phone and then $36 a month for 3MB (from the same damn
company)
L387[13:07:13] <Kenny> so $78 a month for
phone and 3MB internet
L388[13:08:22] <JoshTheEnder> that's just
a ripoff
L389[13:09:01] <Kenny> told you companies
here were bastards
L390[13:11:48] <Kenny> ok. time to go set
up some stuff in MC in prep for a video. (still ain't fully awake)
hehe
L391[13:12:20] <Kenny> my first one so it
will probably suck
L392[13:13:02] <Kenny> but i want to do
something so MC players can have a reference to using OC
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L394[13:14:39] <Forecaster> hehe
"Minepa"
L395[13:14:41] <Forecaster> :P
L396[13:15:31] <GrandpaMinecraft> my
youtube name :P
L397[13:15:43] <Forecaster> ah :P
L398[13:15:57] <Forecaster> you'll never
guess mine :P
L399[13:16:01] <GrandpaMinecraft> i think
it is very appropriate when taking into account my age
L400[13:16:15] <GrandpaMinecraft> i
actually have 2 yt accts
L401[13:16:31] <Forecaster> :O
L402[13:16:40] <Forecaster> now that's
cheating :P
L403[13:16:45] <GrandpaMinecraft> i also
have one as shantomken
L404[13:17:07] <GrandpaMinecraft> i did a
couple of videos in response to other videos with it
L405[13:20:44] <Forecaster> those are some
old videos :P
L406[13:20:55] <GrandpaMinecraft>
yep
L407[13:21:17] <GrandpaMinecraft> and
nothing lioke what i'm going to attempt this time hehe
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L409[13:23:32] <Forecaster> I've made a
few tutorials for railcraft :P
L410[13:24:30] <GrandpaMinecraft> that's
what i'm going to attempt with OC, but having stagefright issues
lol
L411[13:24:59] <GrandpaMinecraft> plus i'm
not really sure how to go about it
L412[13:25:32] <Forecaster> I just set up
the stuff I need to show off then improvise the rest :P
L413[13:25:36] <Forecaster> for better or
worse
L414[13:26:17] <GrandpaMinecraft> yes,
well i have a sister witha big mouth and may have to do the same
thing over and over :P
L415[13:26:46] <GrandpaMinecraft> she was
30 feet from me yesterday and they heard her onh TS
L416[13:27:00] <Forecaster> :P
L417[13:27:09] <GrandpaMinecraft> and it's
voice-activated
L418[13:27:27] <GrandpaMinecraft> so, she
was loud enough to trigger it
L419[13:27:55] <JoshTheEnder> sounds like
someone i know, their sister activated his microphone from across
the house
L420[13:28:34] <GrandpaMinecraft> there's
only another 15 feet to go to be at the other side of the house
0^0
L421[13:29:17] <GrandpaMinecraft> and i am
literally at one end of the house right near the window
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L424[13:41:47] <GrandpaMinecraft> ok am i
still connected
L425[13:42:23] <manmaed|AFK> just
ts?
L426[13:42:34] <GrandpaMinecraft> just
ts
L427[13:42:38] <GrandpaMinecraft> both
servers
L428[13:43:10] <manmaed|AFK> :o
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L430[13:43:21] <GrandpaMinecraft> FTB and
Nooby
L431[13:43:41] <JoshTheEnder|NoZNC>
?help
L432[13:43:42] <EnderBot> I can help you
with: test,
L433[13:43:42] <EnderBot> Command usage:
?<topic> e.g. ?stargates
L434[13:43:46] <JoshTheEnder|NoZNC> wtf
vps
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L444[13:44:08] <GrandpaMinecraft> net
split
L445[13:44:19] <JoshTheEnder|NoZNC> it's
like, not any connections from my pc to it :/
L446[13:44:29] <GrandpaMinecraft> jesus h
christ. internet is really derping today
L447[13:44:54] <GrandpaMinecraft> i'm on 2
ts servers and both went down
L448[13:45:09] <manmaed> there still up
for me
L449[13:45:18] <GrandpaMinecraft>
something is really going on with the net today
L450[13:45:26] <manmaed> weeeeeeeeeeeeee
netspilt
L451[13:45:32] <JoshTheEnder|NoZNC> ok, so
i'm still getting files sent via dropbox from EnderBot yet i cannot
connect via ssh, irc or web to it
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L462[13:45:54] <GrandpaMinecraft>
!deop
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L464[13:46:23] <manmaed> o.o
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L466[13:47:09] <JoshTheEnder> can someone
ping JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther's hostname and see if they get a
response?
L467[13:47:44] <JoshTheEnder> this is
bizare
L468[13:48:10] <manmaed> is up for
me
L469[13:48:19] <GrandpaMinecraft> i got a
ping
L470[13:48:23] <JoshTheEnder> hmmm, ISP
could you stop fucking up maybe?
L471[13:48:31] <manmaed> Reply from
162.243.30.68: bytes=32 time=103ms TTL=54
L472[13:48:34] <GrandpaMinecraft> 1 sec
ping
L473[13:48:48] <GrandpaMinecraft> my ts
can't connect
L474[13:49:19] <manmaed> before you went
robo
L476[13:49:49] <manmaed> i can
L477[13:49:52] <GrandpaMinecraft> yep, is
asking for login info
L478[13:50:01] <JoshTheEnder> :/ ok brb,
going to restart router
L479[13:50:02] <manmaed> whats you email
and password?
L480[13:50:06] <manmaed> :p
L481[13:50:11] <JoshTheEnder> nice one...
:P
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L483[13:50:22] <GrandpaMinecraft> could
this be that dumbass techmcac
L484[13:50:35] <manmaed> DDOSing you
L485[13:50:37] <Wobbo> It is snowing
outside here! Finally snow this winter!
L486[13:51:04] <GrandpaMinecraft> nah,
you're right. i'd lose this connect too
L487[13:51:11] <manmaed> yep
L488[13:51:21] <manmaed> do you have ftbs
ip?
L489[13:51:35] <GrandpaMinecraft>
nope
L490[13:51:50] <manmaed> nvm that wouldnt
work
L491[13:52:11] <GrandpaMinecraft> it's
ftb. i connected to the DW20 public ts
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L493[13:52:45] <manmaed> dw20 public
ts
L494[13:52:46] <manmaed> ?
L495[13:52:58] <manmaed> Shambers
one?
L496[13:53:00] <GrandpaMinecraft> wait it
might work. ts can't resolved the host name. means that some dns
server system could be down
L497[13:53:19] <GrandpaMinecraft> i need
ftb's actual IP
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L499[13:53:48] <manmaed>
87.117.246.180
L500[13:53:51] <ThatJoshGreen> ohh yeah,
that was my previous irc connection :P
L501[13:53:57] <ThatJoshGreen> still cant
get onto my bouncer :/
L502[13:54:12] <ThatJoshGreen> internet
wtf are you doing
L503[13:54:50] <GrandpaMinecraft> that
didn't work :(
L504[13:54:51] <ThatJoshGreen> ohh,
getting somewhere (jsut got ssl info from my bouncer)
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L506[13:55:23] <JoshTheEnder> damit, ssl
timed out
L507[13:56:19] <JoshTheEnder> hmm, ok time
to switch dns servers
L508[13:56:44] <GrandpaMinecraft> i'm
ojnly having trouble connecting to TS servers in the general
UK/Sweden area
L509[13:56:55] <JoshTheEnder> :/
L510[13:57:02] <GrandpaMinecraft> i can
connect to the DW20 public server and the modjam server
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L512[13:58:45] <ThatJoshGreen> hmm, this
is getting annoying
L513[14:00:10] <manmaed> dw20 has a public
TS?
L514[14:00:28] <GrandpaMinecraft> yeah,
chickenkiller
L515[14:00:33] <manmaed> o that one
L516[14:00:34] <manmaed> XD
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L518[14:01:55] <ThatJoshGreen> hmm
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L520[14:03:34] <JoshTheEnder|NoZNC> me
thinks something is up with networking stuff in the UK, seeing as i
cant access my vps and GrandpaMinecraft cant access UK teamspeak
servers
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L523[14:05:46] <JoshTheEnder> aha i am
back
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L525[14:29:45] <GrandpaMinecraft> alright.
it appears all is working again
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L530[15:02:33] <ping> dammit maru
L531[15:02:38] <ping> stop using my
name
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L541[15:41:28] <Lunatrius> :O
L542[15:42:41] <Forecaster> :O
L543[15:47:59] <Kenny> OPenComputers has
moved to this channel
L544[15:57:10] <Lunatrius> Lies!
L545[15:57:19] <Lunatrius> #oc(d)
L546[16:03:16] <alekso56> is this the
channel for orginal content?
L548[16:12:06] ***
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L549[16:12:18] <Kenny> tell that Sangar
when he comes in. This was his chooice for channel
L550[16:12:30] <Kenny> also Josh can back
me on this one
L551[16:12:54] <JoshTheEnder> yep
L552[16:17:01] <Lunatrius>
#OverClock'd
L553[16:17:20] <Biohazard> #OhCool
L554[16:17:34] <Lunatrius> s/ol/ck/
L555[16:17:41] <Biohazard> Lunatrius: no
u
L556[16:17:47] *
Lunatrius 6
L557[16:17:47] <ping> s/l/
L558[16:17:51] <ping> >_>
L559[16:20:53] <Kenny> #Orange
County
L561[16:24:50] <ping> is there some while
metacall i dont know of
L562[16:27:34] <ping> nope, it has a
metatable >_>
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L569[17:13:28] <Biohazard> ping: wot
L570[17:13:42] <ping> Biohazard, its like
the one i made for CC, exept OC
L571[17:13:59] <Biohazard> ah
L572[17:14:18] <ping> wait, you werent on
my server so you havent seen my awesome lua prompt
L573[17:14:34] <Biohazard> :p
L574[17:15:29] <ping> question:
L575[17:16:04] <ping> im modifying the
event api so it will remove the callback when it returns
something
L576[17:16:07] <ping> true or false?
L577[17:16:37] <ping> was thinking false
because, return continue
L578[17:16:53] <ping> ofc it will do
==false instead of not
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L581[17:47:29] <ping> vv, hello fellow
ipv6
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L590[18:28:58] <Kenny> hey Sangar :)
L591[18:29:10] <Sangar> good evening
:)
L592[18:29:15] <Kenny> the other channel
is clear now
L593[18:29:26] <Kenny> everyone is in here
:)
L594[18:29:27] <Sangar> ok
L595[18:29:48] <Kenny> i'll sit in the
other to keep it open and redirect to here
L596[18:30:15] <Sangar> good, thanks
:)
L597[18:30:29] <Kenny> no prob :)
L598[18:31:34] <Kenny> i'm looking into
setting up a Team Speak server for the channel to use. Have to set
up some things first. Like a website and a ip for it to use
L599[18:32:45] <Kenny> the new requirement
for a Non Profit License is really a pain
L600[18:33:34] <Kenny> but it ain't like i
haven't done it before :)
L601[18:33:45] <Kenny> brb
L602[18:35:07] <ping> :D sangar
L603[18:35:40] <ping> i have a laptop that
i used as a MC server, it could be used as a TS
L605[18:44:36] <Forecaster> augh
L606[18:44:42] <Forecaster> stupid div
D:
L607[18:44:49] <Forecaster> get to where I
want you!
L608[18:44:50] <Forecaster> >:
L609[18:45:06] <Forecaster> stupid
css
L610[18:45:17] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny, you
have to have a liscence to use TS? when did this come into
efect
L611[18:47:56] <ping> JoshTheEnder, i
dunno but i set up a server for free
L612[18:53:56] <Kenny> you don't need a
license, but thew free one only allows 32 connections
L613[18:54:21] <Kenny> a NPL gives you up
to 10 servers with 512 slots each
L614[18:58:23] <Kenny> going to get
dropped. have to restart router
L615[19:00:58] <Sangar> why not
mumble?
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L619[19:05:02] <Kenny> !deop
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L621[19:30:35] <ping> Kenny, "!flags
Kenny -O" will disable auto OP
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L623[19:36:28] <Stary2001> Sabga
L624[19:36:44] <Stary2001> Sangar, murmur
is... special
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L626[19:38:06] <Sangar> huh, is it still
so fiddly to set up the certs? (haven't used it in... years?)
L627[19:38:09]
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L628[19:38:15] <Kenny> !deop
L629[19:38:16]
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L630[19:38:33] <Kenny> damn motorola
routers
L631[19:40:01] <Stary2001> motorola do
routers? o.O
L632[19:40:20] <Kenny> yep
L633[19:40:37] <Kenny> and any small
freaking change you have to restart the router
L634[19:40:54] <Kenny> give me good old
cisco or netgear
L635[19:41:41] <Kenny> ok. who has
TS?
L636[19:41:45] <JoshTheEnder> i do
L637[19:41:47] <Kenny> i need to do a
test
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L639[19:44:48] <Kenny> ok. got ts up and
running hehe
L640[19:45:10] <Kenny> only have 32 slots
on this one but i don't have to worry about anything
L641[19:47:24] <Stary2001> I have TS
L642[19:47:49] <Stary2001> not too well
atm though
L643[19:52:01] <ping> Kenny, did you pay
for it?
L644[19:52:10] <Kenny> it's a free
one
L646[20:03:53] <Forecaster> mm free
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L649[20:05:07] <SpiritedDusty> hm
L650[20:05:14] <SpiritedDusty>
#opencomputers isn't redirecting me to #oc
L651[20:05:31] <Forecaster> there's no
auto redirect set up
L652[20:05:48] <SpiritedDusty> I thought
there was... It redirected me to #oc yesterday
L653[20:09:10] <ping> there was
L654[20:09:16] <Forecaster> yes
L655[20:09:20] <Forecaster> but not
anymore
L656[20:09:26] <ping> but Kenny decided to
take away my founder
L657[20:09:29] <ping> so nope :(
L658[20:10:02] <ping> i was literally just
about to put my znc to keep it up
L659[20:10:49] <Sangar> quick question:
any major objections to making UE 3 a requirement for power? would
make things a lot simpler on my end as I could throw out all the
other energy apis.
L660[20:11:03] <Forecaster> not
really
L661[20:11:06] <ping> i dont have UE
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L663[20:11:18] <Forecaster> I have UE
anyway for MFFS
L664[20:11:37] <Forecaster> so go ahead
:P
L666[20:11:45] <Sangar> starting with ue3
it's basically just one more zip to throw into the mods folder -
like core mods of other mods
L667[20:11:52] <Sangar> or jar
L668[20:12:16] <Forecaster> although maybe
just soft depend and disable energy systems if UE isn't
present
L669[20:12:21] <ping> does it support IC2
/ TE
L670[20:12:25] <Sangar> aye, that would be
the plan
L671[20:12:26] <Sangar> yes
L672[20:12:30] <Forecaster> yes it
does
L673[20:12:30] <Sangar> thats the nice
thing about it
L674[20:12:41] <ping> as long as it doesnt
break moi stuff it sounds awesome
L675[20:12:44] <Sangar> i'd just use the
ue api but still could support ic2, bc and te
L676[20:13:22] <Forecaster> and UE of
course :P
L677[20:19:30] <Kenny> !op
L678[20:19:31]
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L679[20:19:55] <Kenny> !deop
L680[20:19:56]
zsh sets mode: -o on Kenny
L681[20:20:22] <Kenny> it should now. that
would have been cause i went offline to reset my router
L682[20:34:46] <Wobbo> What does UE3
do?
L684[20:35:03] <Forecaster> that :P
L685[20:36:10] <Wobbo> The #entry doesn't
work here, for some reason
L686[20:36:25] <Forecaster> it's the last
post in the thread
L687[20:37:48] <Wobbo> If that makes your
work easier Sangar, I wouldn't mind.
L688[20:38:09] <Wobbo> As long as people
keep developing and updating it :P
L689[20:38:21] <Forecaster> it's not dying
anytime soon :P
L690[20:38:38] <Sangar> that seems likely
;) if not i'd just switch back
L691[20:39:15] <Forecaster> since
Calclavia is actively developing his own mods for it it's unlikely
he'd stop :P
L692[20:39:43] <Sangar> aye. thanks for
the clarifying post btw, forgot to mention that.
L693[20:39:54] <Forecaster> no problem
^^
L694[20:42:24] <Kenny> Forecaster, in case
you didn't know, Calclavia is the one doing the UE3 api as he is
the original developer of UE
L695[20:42:38] <Forecaster> I
know...
L696[20:43:09] <Kenny> i should go say hey
to him. Haven't talked with him in a long time
L697[20:43:12] <Forecaster> he also
develops his version of MFFS and the indev mod Resonant
Induction
L698[20:47:59] <Wobbo> But, if you switch
to UE that would also mean that you are compatible with all other
mods that use UE right?
L699[20:48:25] <Sangar> yeah, though
that's already been the case up til now, just with the old ue
api
L700[20:49:02] <Sangar> the switch is more
of a "behind the scenes" thing, except for the fact that
people have to have the UE3 jar in their mods folder
L701[20:49:53] <Forecaster> which is not a
big deal considering how tiny it is :P
L702[20:51:10] <Sangar> that's what i'm
thinking. certain people have a problem with that though (Lord.Joda
:P) and demanded I do a poll on the matter before going for it
^^
L703[20:51:27] <Forecaster> peh
L704[20:51:40] <Forecaster> he can
maintain all the power api's then :P
L705[20:51:49] <Wobbo> It is an extra step
in the installation, but as long as you make it clear
L706[20:52:17] <Forecaster> it's just
throwing an extra jar in there :P
L707[20:52:25] <Sangar> he probably would
if i let him :P i'm just a little obsessive about how the code
looks >_>
L708[20:52:32] <Forecaster> it'd be worse
if it required configuring or something like that
L709[20:52:45] <Forecaster> few
programmers aren't :P
L710[20:52:57] <Wobbo> I did install NEI
without chicken core since the text was ambiguous, so I would make
it clear :P
L711[20:53:15] <Wobbo> Second that
L712[20:53:40] <Sangar> well if it isn't
there i show a chat message on login that it isn't there and stuff
won't use power
L713[20:53:49] <Sangar> should be clear
enough
L714[20:53:56] <Forecaster> sounds great
:3
L715[20:54:26] <Wobbo> NEI just closes
Minecraft and goes back to the launcher, really confusing
L716[20:54:49] <Sangar> that's the
difference between a hard and a soft dependency in a nutshell
:P
L717[20:54:52] <Forecaster> well, it kinda
requires CCC to run at all :P
L718[20:54:55] <Forecaster> yeah
L719[20:55:10] <Forecaster> and it doesn't
"just close minecraft"
L720[20:55:13] <Forecaster> it crashes
:P
L721[20:55:21] <ping> Sangar, what colors
can i actually print, i keep ending up with shit green instead of
gray :/
L722[20:55:47] <Wobbo> Without any message
that it did crash :P
L723[20:56:03] <Kenny> Wobbo, what
launcher are you using?
L724[20:56:09] <Forecaster> it crashes the
same way as any other mod xD
L725[20:56:19] <Wobbo> Default minecraft
launcher, nothing fancy
L726[20:56:19] <Sangar> the colors are
using a 121 and 332 bit packing for the 4 and 8 bit depths
L727[20:56:33] <Forecaster> I use the
mojang launcher as well :P
L728[20:56:51] <Kenny> you wouldn't get a
crash message then since you aren;t running the console
also......
L729[20:57:14] <Kenny> but it is a crash
because you have to have code core for NEI to work
L730[20:57:16] <Forecaster> you can
specify not to close the console when launching a profile for each
profile
L731[20:57:17] <Forecaster> :P
L732[20:57:22] <ping> sangar, how many
bits should i take off
L733[20:57:29] <Wobbo> When using an
outdated version of forge does give an error.
L734[20:57:32] <Forecaster> not to close
the launcher taht is
L735[20:57:40] <Forecaster> that is*
L736[20:57:50] <Forecaster> the launcher
has a development console
L738[20:58:09] <Forecaster> Wobbo: that's
a forge thing though
L739[20:58:41] <Forecaster> crashes can't
do that because they're by defenition kinda fatal to the program
:P
L740[20:58:52] <Forecaster>
definition*
L741[20:58:53] <Wobbo> I know, it just
confused me, but after pressing play five times I figured I did
something wrong :P
L742[20:59:26] <Kenny> just put
CodeChinckenCore in the mods folder and you are good to go
L743[20:59:33] <Kenny> Chicken*
L744[20:59:51] <Kenny> that's all that is
needed
L745[21:00:10] <LordJoda> Just for the
record I have nothing against adding ue myself I was just trying to
prevent new tickets like "add native support for
ic2/te/bc" ...
L746[21:00:16] <Wobbo> It works know, but
I misinterpreted the message in the beginning of the forum post. It
is not entirely clear
L747[21:03:34] <ping> finnaly gray
L748[21:03:52] <ping> seems blue is less
used
L749[21:11:51] <Sangar> yeah, since the
eye is less good at telling differences in shades of blue than in
red and green
L750[21:22:00] <ping> welp :/ im better at
seeing blue because im parially red colorblind
L752[21:28:43] <Forecaster> I've never
played that
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L755[21:48:42] <ping> what the hell
L756[21:48:58] <ping> JoshTheEnder, nsfw
much?
L757[21:49:20] <JoshTheEnder> it's cards
aginst humanity, what do you expec t?
L758[21:49:24] <ping> >_>
L759[21:49:30] <ping> i expected
randomness
L760[21:49:59] <JoshTheEnder> it's cards
aginst humanity with all the options picked :P
L761[21:50:21] <JoshTheEnder> it's going
to have something weird in there
L762[21:50:51] <ping> "France is
Insane Clown Possie"
L763[21:50:53] <ping> seeeeems legit
L764[21:54:47] <Wobbo> Does build craft
have a way to store energy?
L765[21:54:52] <Forecaster> no
L766[21:55:39] <ping> JoshTheEnder,
password ?_?
L767[21:55:41] <ping> it crashed
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L770[22:19:27] <Wobbo> What is the best
way to make a refinery(build craft) run with three stirling
engines?
L771[22:26:36] <ping> not.
L772[22:26:54] <ping> well, aslong as you
dont "stack" the engines
L773[22:27:04] <ping> because they do
explode
L774[22:27:46] <ping> OpenP has some
functions for interacting with BC
L775[22:27:58] <ping> though i heared it
is somewhat borked in 1.6.4
L776[22:29:31] <Forecaster> Wobbo: what do
you mean?
L777[22:29:46] <Wobbo> I want the input to
the refinery to be constant
L778[22:29:46] <Forecaster> you mean other
than putting them next to it and providing fuel?
L779[22:30:15] <Forecaster> why?
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L781[22:30:46] <ping> place 3 engines
around it, put hoppers ontop of the engines, apply redstone
L782[22:30:46] <Wobbo> because now he
turns on and off almost immediately. He produces fuel, but not
much
L783[22:30:49] <ping> ??? profit
L784[22:30:49] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I
couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L785[22:31:06] <ping> no enderbot
L786[22:31:18] <ping> JoshTheEnder, plox
fix
L787[22:31:31] <JoshTheEnder> why? you
used it's help command
L788[22:31:54] <ping> no, it ran its help
subroutine based on my input
L789[22:32:20] <Forecaster> that's kinda
what it's supposed to do
L790[22:32:24] <Forecaster> :P
L791[22:32:29] <JoshTheEnder> Forecaster,
is right
L792[22:32:45] <ping> well, make a ???
profit! respone :D
L793[22:33:08] <JoshTheEnder> i'll add it
to my list of things to consider
L794[22:33:24] <ping> you already
considered it
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L796[22:33:32] <Wobbo> Oh well, the
refinery produces fuel, so I guess it is okay
L797[22:33:46] <ping> Wobbo, diamond +
round robin pipe
L798[22:33:52] <ping> or ME network
L799[22:35:03] <Wobbo> What do you mean by
ME network?
L800[22:36:01] <Forecaster> AE
network?
L801[22:37:08] <Wobbo> Doesn't ring a bell
either.
L802[22:37:20] <Wobbo> I just started with
build craft, its new for me :P
L803[22:37:23] <Forecaster> Applied
Energistics
L804[22:37:28] <Forecaster> it's a
mod
L805[22:37:38] <Forecaster> :P
L806[22:37:52] <Wobbo> Ah
L807[22:37:57] <Forecaster> it can be
likened to logistics pipes
L808[22:38:04] <Forecaster> but it's
vastly different
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L812[22:41:50] <Wobbo> I will see, It
works now, so I will leave it like it is
L813[22:41:59] <Kenny> !deop
L814[22:41:59]
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L815[22:42:28] <Kenny> dang
L816[22:42:30] <Kenny> !op
L817[22:42:31]
zsh sets mode: +o on Kenny
L818[22:42:42] <Forecaster> :P
L819[22:42:46] <Kenny> !deop
L820[22:42:47]
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L821[22:42:56] <Forecaster> having fun?
:P
L822[22:44:01] <Kenny> yep
L823[22:44:34] <Forecaster> :D
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L825[22:46:38] <JoshTheEnder> woo
L826[22:49:19] <Kenny> !flags Kenny
+Vv
L828[22:49:30] <Kenny> !voice
L829[22:49:30]
zsh sets mode: +v on Kenny
L830[22:49:41] <ping> Kenny, you might
want to do -O so it doesnt auto op you
L831[22:49:54] <Kenny|Offline> ping mind
your own business
L832[22:49:57] <ping> >_>
L833[22:50:03] <ping> im giving you irc
advice
L834[22:50:19] <Kenny|Offline> stay out of
my business
L835[22:50:24] <Sangar> thanks, I'll look
over it
L836[22:51:19] <ping> Kenny|Offline, if im
on your screen and i need to stay out of your "business"
why do you get to be on mine :P
L837[22:51:26] <Sangar> uhm, lua line 32,
shouldn't that be text.serialize instead of just serialize?
L838[22:51:33] <ping> wot
L839[22:51:47] <ping> derp
L840[22:52:20] <ping> fixed
L841[22:53:43] ⇦
Quits: Kenny (~Kenny@2602:306:ce9e:5150:d0cc:8170:8082:2288)
()
L842[22:54:09] ***
Kenny|Offline is now known as Kenny
L843[22:54:13]
zsh sets mode: +o on Kenny
L844[22:54:15] <Sangar> event: not sure I
get it, you mean to remove the listener when call fails? shouldn't
it return false then? instead of nil? since you explicitly check
for false?
L845[22:54:34] <Kenny> !deop
L846[22:54:35]
zsh sets mode: -o on Kenny
L847[22:55:55] <Sangar> also, why is the
truncation in text.lua? that part should go into lua.lua instead,
no?
L848[22:57:15] <ping> because all the
other "safe" features are implemented directly in
text.serialize
L849[22:57:27] <Sangar> oh i missed the
safe there
L850[22:57:31] <Sangar> kk
L851[22:57:37] <ping> the event thing is
only when a callback returns false
L852[22:57:53] <Sangar> ah
L853[22:57:55] <Sangar> of course
L854[22:57:58] <Sangar> I'm tired
-.-
L855[22:58:27] <Kenny> understandable,
it's the witching hour :)
L856[22:58:40] <ping> i coded most of this
stuff when i was really tired
L857[22:58:59] <ping> hence the wall of
undescriptive commits
L858[22:59:03] <Sangar> ^^
L859[23:01:16] <Sangar> is the second
serialize in lua.lua really necessary? are there cases in which
load returns something other than a string as an error
message?
L861[23:02:01] <ping> oh right, the second
one is for errors
L862[23:03:43] <Sangar> getting even more
descriptive :D
L863[23:03:48] <Sangar> ok, cool, looks
good
L864[23:03:49] <ping> Yup
L865[23:04:05] <ping> oh and, is the anti
aliasing disable option only for monitors?
L866[23:04:29] <ping> because it looks
good in the terminal
L867[23:04:36] <ping> (antialiasing)
L868[23:06:17] ***
JoshTheEnder is now known as
JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther
L869[23:06:49] <Sangar> what exactly do
you mean? the one which font to use? that should be checked in the
monospace font renderer, so it should apply to everything i
think.
L870[23:07:50] <ping> aww
L871[23:30:12] ***
Lathanael|Away is now known as Lathanael