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L1[00:00:53] <ForgeDiscord> <dethraid> ?
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L4[02:00:04] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20181103 mappings to Forge Maven.
L5[02:03:05] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20181103-1.13.1.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20181103" in build.gradle) after 1 retry.
L6[02:05:39] <xaero> even mcpbot is having trouble
L7[02:09:11] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/
L8[02:12:04] <xaero> hmm why the delay on an informational message
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L22[06:54:23] <Mata> Hmm problems that I had with ForgeGradle last night are now also happening on the main forge downloads. Cannot download from files.minecraftforge.net
L23[06:59:17] <ForgeDiscord> <therealfarfetchd> Yeah it's the same site
L24[06:59:31] <ForgeDiscord> <therealfarfetchd> At least, the one that the files are hosted on
L25[06:59:54] <Mata> Should we ping the old beast or are they already on it? :cheeky:
L26[07:03:02] <gigaherz> they can't do anything
L27[07:03:07] <gigaherz> it seems to be an isp issue
L28[07:03:23] <Mata> Aah gotcha
L29[07:03:56] <gigaherz> or well, hosting provider being RST bombed
L30[07:04:38] <Mata> Funny how the form is freaking out (just seen it). See if I can get this out onto there
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L42[10:05:53] <Mata> Does anyone have a implementation of a tooltip on a GuiScreen while hovering over a button?
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L45[10:43:53] <gigaherz> just call drawHoveringText
L46[10:44:10] <gigaherz> if the mouse is within the bounds of the button?
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L57[12:18:38] <Mata> gigaherz ja
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L70[14:17:27] <SatanicSanta> !latest
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L76[14:40:41] <Mata> Works :D
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L98[17:03:34] <ForgeDiscord> <FullMetalJuggernaut> So how far is forge for 1.13 now?
L99[17:04:26] <gigaherz> exaclty as far as 2 weeks ago
L100[17:04:36] <gigaherz> everyone has been extremely busy lately
L101[17:04:39] <gigaherz> and Lex just got back
L102[17:05:01] <gigaherz> but a tiny bit more detailed:
L103[17:05:34] <gigaherz> the forgedev environment can prepare the sources, apply the patches, run and debug the clean/forge subprojects, build, and prepare the MDK zip
L104[17:05:55] <gigaherz> so it's mostly a matter of adding the right features to forge itself
L105[17:06:09] <gigaherz> the userdev (MDK) environment is very very rough right now
L106[17:06:19] <gigaherz> it can setup the dependencies needed to compile and build mods
L107[17:06:33] <gigaherz> but can't import into IDEs or run or debug from gradle either
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L112[17:24:55] <ForgeDiscord> <FullMetalJuggernaut> Cool
L113[17:25:23] <ForgeDiscord> <FullMetalJuggernaut> Also Antvenom made a video on the new item added in 1.14
L114[17:25:44] <ForgeDiscord> <FullMetalJuggernaut> I wonder, how will it change forge?
L115[17:26:01] <ForgeDiscord> <Johny Michelson> What item? ?
L116[17:26:45] <ForgeDiscord> <FullMetalJuggernaut> Well the loom is one that is completed
L117[17:26:55] <ForgeDiscord> <FullMetalJuggernaut> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGhCVua78bw&t=510s
L118[17:27:30] <ForgeDiscord> <FullMetalJuggernaut> The barrel I imagine could be used as a shulker type item
L119[17:27:51] <ForgeDiscord> <FullMetalJuggernaut> (I just hope they allow us to make steel)
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L128[17:57:25] <Mata> So that means that technically seen I can start porting over my mods, just without IDE. So that on release of forge 1.13 mods can come out :thinking:
L129[17:57:36] <strkov> Hi, I'm getting the following error when installing minecraft forge on a headless server and I haven't found any help on Google: "A problem installing the server was detected, server install cannot continue". I'm using forge-1.12.2-14.23.5.2768-installer.jar
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L131[18:00:16] <gigaherz> hello, forge's servers had to be updated and reconfigured after the recent issues, and there's a few things that are having troubles right now
L132[18:01:02] <gigaherz> you'll have to be patient until that server-side issue can be fixed, to allow existing installers to work
L133[18:01:03] <strkov> ah, so the problem is when downloading the libraries then. is there any mirror or any way i can manually download them?
L134[18:01:20] <gigaherz> all the libs should work
L135[18:01:31] <gigaherz> but the installer can't handle the 301 redirect form HTTP to HTTPS
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L138[18:03:59] <strkov> I see, is there any page explaining how to install forge manually?
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L140[18:04:50] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> Do you have all the libs?
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L146[18:05:21] <strkov> nope
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L149[18:05:43] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> Good luck
L150[18:06:15] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> For now, I would try to use liteloader and see what that does.
L151[18:06:28] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> creates a folder/file in the versions folder and copies some files into /libraries
L152[18:07:46] <Mata> I seen a few posts on the MinecraftForge forms about, if it is like a scala library missing, you can host it yourself. This is, however, not reccomended.
L153[18:08:40] <gigaherz> that problem should have been solved by the server update
L154[18:08:56] <gigaherz> however
L155[18:09:18] <gigaherz> the problem right now is that the existing installers DO NOT support upgrading HTTP requests to HTTPS when the server tells them to
L156[18:09:23] <gigaherz> so
L157[18:09:37] <gigaherz> 1. the server has to be reconfigured to allow downloading those files through http
L158[18:09:49] <gigaherz> 2. new installers will have to include a patch to support http->https upgrading
L159[18:10:11] <Mata> Not only the installers, the ForgeGradle build scripts also do not support http->https
L160[18:10:17] <gigaherz> 3. existing installers will ideally be replaced with new ones that patch this issue
L161[18:10:24] <strkov> I guess 1 then 2 would be the most sensible way
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L163[18:10:55] <gigaherz> then and only then, step 1 can be reverted to make forge site enforce HTTPS
L164[18:11:06] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> Does the installer use a user-agent?
L165[18:11:16] <gigaherz> it's jsut an URL.openConnection
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L167[18:11:38] <gigaherz> Lex asked for a PR to fix it well
L168[18:11:44] <gigaherz> dunno if someone is working on it
L169[18:12:02] <gigaherz> he also asked for some script that can take the new installer code
L170[18:12:05] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> It's be easy to have the server mirror the file instead of using a redirect if there is no agent
L171[18:12:11] <gigaherz> and fix existing releases to use this new installer
L172[18:12:20] <gigaherz> while keeping the old data intact
L173[18:12:39] <gigaherz> (so like, only the installer code changes, nothing else)
L174[18:12:59] <gigaherz> well it was working before
L175[18:13:09] <gigaherz> so Iguess whatever they were doing before, maybe :P
L176[18:13:18] <gigaherz> I'm not a server person :shrug:
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L178[18:14:42] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> ircbridge... o.o
L179[18:14:52] <gigaherz> yes?
L180[18:14:56] <gigaherz> [00:14] (+ForgeDiscord): <Kris> ircbridge... o.o
L181[18:15:05] <Mata> Hello from the other side
L182[18:15:05] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> Ye just never saw that before
L183[18:15:10] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> lol
L184[18:15:20] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> This is where we talk to the peasants
L185[18:15:27] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> Why
L186[18:15:29] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> ?
L187[18:15:30] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> o.o
L188[18:15:34] <gigaherz> I walk between both worlds
L189[18:15:37] <gigaherz> I'm a planewalker
L190[18:15:38] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> because they don't like discord
L191[18:15:44] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> so what are they on?
L192[18:15:48] <gigaherz> IRC
L193[18:15:54] <gigaherz> plain old reliable (sortof) IRC
L194[18:15:55] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> idefk IRC
L195[18:15:56] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> a
L196[18:15:58] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> hence the name #ircbridge
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L198[18:16:07] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> Internet Relay Chat
L199[18:16:07] <Mata> I'm not sure, but at least we don't sign away our rights to join a suit against discord lel
L200[18:16:11] <gigaherz> Internet Relay Chat
L201[18:16:13] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> oH
L202[18:16:14] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> Right
L203[18:16:15] <gigaherz> the OG internet chat protocol
L204[18:16:32] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> Mata this is not the case lol
L205[18:17:01] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> The first message sent between computers is LOLOGIN
L206[18:17:32] <ForgeDiscord> <gigaherz> I have used IRC since around 1997 :P
L207[18:17:45] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> In 1997, I was 3
L208[18:17:52] <Mata> In 1997, I was -1
L209[18:17:53] <gigaherz> I was 13
L210[18:18:15] <gigaherz> actually no, it must have been later
L211[18:18:20] <gigaherz> I got my pc around 1997
L212[18:18:35] <gigaherz> I had a modem, but no cable, at the time
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L214[18:18:49] <gigaherz> it was a bit later, when I managed to get a 10m roll of phone cable
L215[18:19:03] <gigaherz> so 1998/1999
L216[18:19:23] <gigaherz> for reference, my pc at the time used a 33.6kbps modem
L217[18:19:30] <gigaherz> I didn't get a 56k modem until later
L218[18:19:41] <gigaherz> ahh.... the days of dialup
L219[18:20:04] <gigaherz> of geting... naughty videos at 160x120 resolution
L220[18:21:26] <Mata> Dang what kind of days were those, wanting to see naughty videos vs actually being able to watch them. What kind of waiting times were you looking at back then, an hour or 4-5?
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L222[18:22:13] <gigaherz> well keep in mind
L223[18:22:16] <gigaherz> I'm not talking full movies
L224[18:22:34] <gigaherz> I meant like, short clips, a few minutes long at most
L225[18:22:41] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> dude
L226[18:22:44] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> in 1997
L227[18:22:45] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> i was
L228[18:22:53] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> -6
L229[18:23:22] <gigaherz> anyone who liked to watch the full movie, would go rent it on VHS
L230[18:23:29] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> so many kiddies here
L231[18:24:21] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> Kiddies maybe
L232[18:24:29] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> being 14 is ok
L233[18:24:35] <ForgeDiscord> <Kris> ok
L234[18:25:43] <ForgeDiscord> <killjoy> HttpStatus.OK
L235[18:26:54] <gigaherz> 200
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