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L7[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV]
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L22[06:40:02] <Keridos> is there any
example of how to register a shapedorerecipe in 1.12.2 via the
registry?
L23[06:40:39] <ForgeDiscord>
<JamiesWhiteShirt> why not use JSON?
L24[06:41:06] <Keridos> because json imho
is a pain in the ass to get working
L25[06:41:46] <Keridos> I need recipes
loaded dynamically dependent on the mods present, and yeah I know
that is possible
L26[06:42:02] <Keridos> but the recipe
jsons are really confusing and a lot less straightforward than then
java syntax
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L28[06:56:32] <Keridos> I am getting this:
Can't use a null-name for the registry, object
net.minecraftforge.oredict.ShapedOreRecipe
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L30[07:05:49] <sham1> Keridos: have you
tried setting the registry name?
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L34[07:16:36] <gigaherz> Keridos: I have to
disagree
L35[07:16:40] <gigaherz> they are very
straightforward
L36[07:17:15] <gigaherz> but
L37[07:17:24] <gigaherz> you haveto call
setRegistryName
L38[07:17:27] <gigaherz> as you would for
an item or such
L39[07:18:40] <gigaherz> (for
code-registered recipes, that is)
L40[07:18:54] <gigaherz> (json recipes get
the registry name from the filename)
L42[07:19:03] <gigaherz> you can't say this
is confusing
L43[07:19:31] <gigaherz> or this
L45[07:19:39] <gigaherz> the only extra
thing you would need
L46[07:20:08] <gigaherz> is a
"conditions": [ { "type":
"forge:mod_loaded", "modid": "modid
here" } ]
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L50[08:07:19] <Keridos> and _alt is an
alternative recipe that forge ignores?
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L52[08:07:57] <Keridos> so
registryname_alt.json would declare a second recipe for
registryname?
L53[08:08:44] <gigaherz> no
L54[08:08:49] <gigaherz> that's my own
thing
L55[08:09:30] <gigaherz> no wait
L56[08:09:41] <gigaherz> I don't have any
alternative recipe anymore
L57[08:09:47] <gigaherz> where did you get
the _alt.json from?
L58[08:09:59] <Keridos> I think the json
recipe builder did that
L59[08:10:11] <Keridos> I have seperate
recipe sets for the same items
L60[08:10:19] <gigaherz> well
L61[08:10:25] <gigaherz> each recipe is
evaluated separately
L62[08:10:29] <gigaherz> based on its
conditions
L63[08:10:30] <gigaherz> so
L64[08:10:30] <Keridos> only one should be
active, and they just use items from different mods
L65[08:10:34] <gigaherz> if you have
like
L66[08:10:37] <gigaherz> box_a.json
L67[08:10:39] <gigaherz> box_b.json
L68[08:10:43] <gigaherz> which both craft a
box
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L70[08:10:46] <gigaherz> but they have
like
L71[08:10:52] <gigaherz>
"conditions": [ X ]
L72[08:10:53] <gigaherz> and
L73[08:11:10] <gigaherz>
"conditions": [ { "forge:not",
"value": X } ]
L74[08:11:33] <gigaherz> it's a good way to
have alternative recipes based on the presence of a mod, for
example
L75[08:11:59] <gigaherz> I used to do
something similar for a config recipe
L76[08:12:13] <gigaherz> where cobblestone
could be crafted with 8xrocks + 1xclayball
L77[08:12:18] <gigaherz> or in "easy
mode", with 9xrocks
L78[08:12:32] <gigaherz> but eventually I
switched to a custom ingredient
L79[08:12:38] <gigaherz> rather than
toggling two recipes
L81[08:13:14] <gigaherz> that custom
ingredient factory returns either the "then" or the
"else" ingredient,based on the given boolean config
value
L82[08:14:51] <Keridos> hm
L83[08:14:58] <Keridos> that seems to be an
interesting feature
L84[08:15:04] <Keridos> thanks for
that
L85[08:15:21] <Keridos> probably need to
rework all the recipes in my mods though -.-
L86[08:17:01] <gigaherz> yeah but it's a
good exercise for 1.13
L87[08:17:50] <Keridos> Can I use a
ConditionFactory as well for the recipe support?
L88[08:17:56] <Keridos> Have that set up
already
L89[08:18:16] <gigaherz> you can declare
custom condition factories, custom ingredient factories, and custom
recipe factories
L90[08:18:24] <gigaherz> it's fully up to
you what works best in each case
L91[08:18:38] <Keridos> condition factories
switch recipes on and off?
L92[08:18:43] <gigaherz> yes
L93[08:18:44] <gigaherz> well
L94[08:18:47] <Keridos> ingredient ones let
you change ingredients?
L95[08:18:48] <gigaherz> they return a
Predicate
L96[08:18:54] <Keridos> and what does the
latter do
L97[08:19:01] <gigaherz> ingredients are
what you use in the recipes
L98[08:19:22] <gigaherz> in 1.12, recipes
are composed of ingredients, which have a list of valid
itemstacks
L99[08:19:26] <Keridos> yeah of course they
do not give ingredients, but rather booleans
L100[08:19:28] <gigaherz> (unless they are
dynamic ingredients)
L101[08:19:38] <gigaherz> so
L102[08:19:46] <gigaherz> a condition
factory, you use like
L103[08:20:06] <gigaherz>
"conditions": [ { "type":
"domain:condition_name", other data you parse in the
factory } , ... ]
L104[08:20:18] <gigaherz> an ingredient
factory you use in the ingredients list of the recipe
L105[08:20:38] <gigaherz> and a recipe
factory parses the entire json file, except for the conditions
which are handled beforehand by forge
L106[08:22:17] <gigaherz> this is how I
had it before I changed things around:
L109[08:22:48] <gigaherz> the reason I got
rid of the conditions: I wanted to use advancement-based unlocks
for the recipes
L110[08:22:57] <gigaherz> like how vanilla
gives you new recipes when you do certain things
L111[08:23:07] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> Does it now?
L112[08:23:18] <gigaherz> but forge didn't
(or still doesn't) have advancement conditions
L113[08:23:21] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> Have not played much 1.12 at all
L114[08:23:32] <gigaherz> it does
L115[08:23:39] <gigaherz> normally it only
unlocks the recipes in the book
L116[08:23:49] <gigaherz> but you can have
it so that locked recipes are not usable in the crafting grid
L117[08:24:02] <gigaherz> there's a
gamerule for it
L118[08:24:19] <gigaherz> but as I was
saying
L119[08:24:46] <gigaherz> since forge
never gave advancements the treatment, they still don't support
custom stuff
L120[08:24:55] <gigaherz> no advancement
conditions, no custom triggers, or such
L121[08:25:12] <gigaherz> so I couldn't
both have advancement-based progression, and configuration-based
recipe disabling
L122[08:25:40] <Keridos> So forge devs
need to give that feature a bit of love and then tthat might be
possible?
L123[08:25:56] <gigaherz> basically
L124[08:26:05] <gigaherz> advancements
need to get the "forge treatment"
L125[08:26:11] <gigaherz> the same way
that recipes did
L126[08:26:18] <gigaherz> ... unless it
has happened in the past 3-4 months
L127[08:26:20] <gigaherz> and I didn't
notice
L128[08:26:47] <gigaherz> (I haven't been
active lately, modding-wise)
L129[08:26:55] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> yeah me too
L130[08:27:02] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> mostly just bugfixes for my mods
L131[08:27:30] <gigaherz> I even neglected
that
L132[08:27:59] <gigaherz> I left WIP stuff
half-done in most of my mods, but never finished & released any
of it
L133[08:29:02] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> Yeah my mods are a tad to popular to do that
-.-
L134[08:29:28] <gigaherz> mine would be
more popular if I wasn't so lazy :P
L135[08:30:29] <gigaherz> it's funny, in
the case of Survivalist
L136[08:30:35] <gigaherz> I was watching
someone play some modpack
L137[08:31:36] <gigaherz> and I saw them
do quite a few things that were exactly the same as in my mod, but
then with way more involved things
L138[08:31:45] <gigaherz> no wonder people
thought I was copying from other mods when I released that
L139[08:31:57] <gigaherz> I wasn't, I
hadn't even looked at those mods, because I didn't know they
existed
L140[08:32:10] <gigaherz> but it was
interesting to see my choices were not as original as I thought
:P
L141[08:32:27] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> well I did not create the mods I author atm
L142[08:32:37] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> Just became the main dev for them eventually
L143[08:33:13] <gigaherz> ah yeah... I
can't even maintain my own, so I would have a hard time taking in
the work for someone else's mod :P
L144[08:33:13] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> And I think that not much mods are like
OpenModularTurrets. ICBM shares some similarities, but can not
think of another mod like that
L145[08:33:55] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> hehe
L146[08:34:04] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> Well it is actually kind of fun working on the
mod
L147[08:34:31] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> just the 1.12 patch is a bit annoying since the mod
has literally more than a few dozen recipes
L148[08:36:24] <gigaherz> yeah it's the
usual thing... mc is going data-driven
L149[08:36:32] <gigaherz> I expect 1.14 to
have even more things moved to datapacks
L150[08:36:46] <gigaherz> I expect them to
eventually have even entities, items and blocks in json files
L151[08:36:59] <gigaherz> maybe i'm wrong,
but I think that's their end goal
L152[08:37:01] <gigaherz> so
L153[08:37:09] <gigaherz> the sooner we
adopt the json stuff
L154[08:37:16] <gigaherz> the less work
will remain for the future
L155[08:37:55] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> well now I cannot get enderio to properly load in
my dev env
L156[08:38:16] <gigaherz> can't say I have
ever tried
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L160[08:42:57] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> when I deobf it with BON2 it simply just does not
load at all
L161[08:44:00] <ForgeDiscord>
<temp1011> hmm idk then
L162[08:44:18] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> yeah the bug is exactly what I encounter
L163[08:44:49] <ForgeDiscord>
<EpicSquid> sorry about that, we really don't know what to do
about it
L164[08:45:08] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> No problem, seems to be a forge issue
L165[08:45:37] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> the interesting part is that BON2 actually is from
tterags CI
L166[08:46:07] <ForgeDiscord>
<temp1011> It might be possible to get it working if you use
the mod's source as a library for the project but I haven't really
looked into it
L167[08:46:22] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> well lets find out
L168[08:46:58] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> ehm well
L169[08:47:10] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> intellij and enderio workspace was broken
afaik
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L173[08:50:35] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> the pictures are kind of hilarious
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L176[09:00:44] <ForgeDiscord> <Ben>
lol, had a dream where also similiar mods like mine existed
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L206[14:53:36] <ForgeDiscord>
<tterrag> BON2 won't work because it's a signed jar
L207[14:53:41] <ForgeDiscord>
<tterrag> Nothing wrong with BON2
L208[14:53:55] <ForgeDiscord>
<tterrag> You could build the mod yourself and disable
signing if you really wanted
L209[14:54:33] <LexManos> holy shit that
Deobf remapper class needs a re-write... BAD.
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L213[15:52:59] <ForgeDiscord>
<Barteks2x> isn't it also possible to delete signing data
from already existing jar?
L214[15:53:09] <ForgeDiscord>
<Barteks2x> I'm pretty sure I've done that myself a few
times
L215[15:53:12] <gigaherz> ofc
L216[15:53:35] <ForgeDiscord>
<Barteks2x> that also means BON2 could do it
L217[15:53:40] <gigaherz> there should be
some signture file inside meta-inf
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L221[16:05:33] <LexManos> The good ol days
of deleting Meta-Inf
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L224[16:30:07] <ForgeDiscord>
<killjoy> *Bad-ol' days
L225[16:32:37] <ForgeDiscord>
<JamiesWhiteShirt> so that's why we had to delete it...
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L228[16:57:13] <tterrag> shame we don't
still have the git bot, I wanna label my own PR :P
L229[16:57:24] <tterrag> gigaherz: thx,
I'll look into stripping that via BON2
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L231[17:13:10] <gigaherz> :)
L232[17:14:10] <gigaherz> see also the
last comment in that page, tterrag, since it also seems like the
manifest.mf file can contain checksums in it
L233[17:15:21] <tterrag> alright
L234[17:19:47] <LexManos> as they sit
advancements qont bw getting conditions
L235[17:20:09] <LexManos> mainly because
they are strictly Builder objexts with no real sane way to hook
in
L236[17:20:22] <LexManos> with the whole
syncing to the client
L237[17:38:01] <gigaherz> I see, that's
annoying
L238[17:38:14] <gigaherz> because with
advancement-based progression, it becomes impossible to use
conditional recipes
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L240[17:38:33] <LexManos> Nothing is
impossible.
L241[17:38:38] <gigaherz> unless forge can
make advancement loading soft-fail instead of hard-fail
L242[17:38:57] <gigaherz> (but as I said
earlier, I don't know if this is already the case)
L243[17:40:55] <LexManos> only real thing
that could be done is to allow the json to specify the recipe
name
L244[17:41:01] <LexManos> instead of using
the file name
L245[17:41:08] <LexManos> but that opens a
whole nother bag of worms
L246[17:42:28] <gigaherz> my goal would
have been so that if you disable a certain feature of the mod, it
removes recipes, advancements, and hides the items from the crative
menu / JEI
L247[17:43:11] <gigaherz> the advancements
part made me just hide the items, but keep recipes and everything
else... which is not ideal but eh *shrug*
L248[17:43:57] <LexManos> meh i dont see
why having the items at all times is a bad
L249[17:44:15] <LexManos> thing, the
recipes however is kinda a issue.
L250[17:45:00] <gigaherz> people making
packs often want to customize things, I have an open ticket for one
of my mods that uses the anvil to upgrade a belt, but people want
to disable the anvil feature, and use custom recipes involving a
leatherworkers' table from some mod
L251[17:46:29] <LexManos> the anvil isnt a
recipe system yet. So thats not related to this.
L252[17:46:39] <gigaherz> yeah it was just
an example
L253[17:46:55] <LexManos> you know better
then to give invalid examples :P
L254[17:46:59] <gigaherz> in the case of
survivalist, which is the mod where I use advancements
L255[17:47:26] <gigaherz> the moment I
added the chopping block to use with wood to get planks and such
instead of the crafting grid,
L256[17:47:43] <gigaherz> someone asked if
they could turn that off, since they were already using a mechanic
from some other mod
L257[17:48:01] <gigaherz> the moment I
added rudimentary tools made with flitn, someone wanted those gone
because the pack was tinker-tools-only
L258[17:48:01] <LexManos> mm, i can see
the need for customization
L259[17:48:13] <gigaherz> etc
L260[17:48:24] <LexManos> as with
everything, going data driven is good and we need to define all the
features the data system needs.
L261[17:48:34] <LexManos> But the problem,
as I said, is the syncing to the client as is.
L262[17:48:47] <LexManos> It just sends a
raw Advancement$Builder object.
L264[17:49:00] <LexManos> And there isnt a
good way to change that without changing the protocol.
L265[17:49:02] <gigaherz> to toggle on/off
certain recipes based on config
L266[17:49:23] <gigaherz> and it was
working fine until I wanted to make progression feel vanilla-like
with advancements
L267[17:50:42] <gigaherz> but I was always
making excuses for myself, when I thought I should look at
advancements to see if making them conditional would be hard
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