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L8[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV]
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L21[05:41:23] <TechnicianLP> who is the
loading of recipes from datapacks implemented in 1.13? can the
system be reasonably recycled for custom machines?
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L23[05:41:34] <TechnicianLP> how*
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L55[09:27:01] <ForgeDiscord>
<Prospector> I don't know how much the forge team has looked
into it but I would assume it would be pretty easy
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L61[09:45:17] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Well the recipe are sent during world join so
expect time outs due to excess custom recipes
L62[09:47:51] <TechnicianLP> could be
delayed into packets sent after join
L63[09:48:56] <Corosus> theres been talks
of working on fixing that issue, older hardware is already having
timeout on join issues due to new 1.12 stuff on join
L64[09:49:11] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw> it
shouldn't be
L65[09:49:26] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw>
there's a few bad mods that are causing some serious slowdown
issues due to logging and such
L66[09:50:44] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw>
but 30 seconds should be ample for almost all speeds of machine.
network slowness is a different story of course
L67[09:51:41] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Well 1.13 will increase the timeouts
L68[09:51:55] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Due to no of mods with no of custom
recipes
L69[09:51:58] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw>
nah. 1.13 will rewrite the handshake
L70[09:52:26] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Ah ok. By forge or by mojangsta
themselves?
L71[09:52:50] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw>
hopefully mojang. they probably need to do so to do datapacks
properly.
L72[09:53:13] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Welp
L73[09:53:52] <Corosus> yeah last i checked
recipe book and binnies bees genetics stuff were huge loads on join
time
L74[09:54:15] <ForgeDiscord>
<offbeatwitch> yeah I think if you're gonna send large
swathes of data you need progress on the client showing things
happening
L75[09:54:22] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Currently there are mods which disable recipe
book
L76[09:54:33] <ForgeDiscord>
<offbeatwitch> they could have a nice screen for each
stage
L77[09:54:40] <ForgeDiscord>
<offbeatwitch> downloading recipes, downloading world
L78[09:54:41] <ForgeDiscord>
<offbeatwitch> etc
L79[09:55:05] <Corosus> yeah that was
suggested too
L80[09:55:17] <Corosus> then also worker
tasks that do it lazily after join was suggested
L81[09:55:18] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw>
well, when i wrote the handshake, i wanted it to work first, then
be pretty ?
L82[09:55:24] <Corosus> heheh
L83[09:55:29] <ForgeDiscord>
<offbeatwitch> it shouldn't time out as long as each side is
getting packets also
L84[09:55:35] <ForgeDiscord>
<offbeatwitch> right?
L85[09:55:47] <ForgeDiscord>
<offbeatwitch> seems dumb for a timeout with packets
moving
L86[09:55:51] <Corosus> for future
reference, what mods disable recipe book stuff StrikerRocker? i
might see if it helps with our ftb revelations based modpack
L87[09:56:07] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Shadows wrote one
L88[09:56:21] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> I dont know the name for sure tho. Let me dig
up for it
L89[09:56:35] <ForgeDiscord>
<offbeatwitch> oh right I forgot forge has a custom
handshake, cpw
L90[09:56:50] <ForgeDiscord>
<Virtuoel> Was it FastWorkbench?
L91[09:57:01] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Yep that's the one
L92[09:57:23] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Iirc it didnt completely remove it.
L93[09:57:47] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Bcoz that would require the untellable one
here
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L95[09:58:51] <ForgeDiscord>
<Virtuoel> In terms of json recipes, I hope in a later
snapshot Mojang changes it so that smelting jsons can use >1
stack sizes
L96[09:59:21] <ForgeDiscord>
<Virtuoel> As iirc they are currently 1:1
L97[09:59:41] <ForgeDiscord>
<temp1011> @Corosus Binnie's bees should be better in 1.13 I
believe. The amount of NBT sent between sides has been reduced
quite a lot but it's a breaking change
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L99[10:02:34] <Corosus> cool cool
cool
L100[10:03:01] <Corosus> oh, yeah we tried
FastWorkbench, didnt help enough
L101[10:04:03] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> For pack?
L102[10:08:11] <Corosus> ftb revelations +
a few things
L103[10:08:36] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Oh
L104[10:08:37] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Ok
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Santa|afk is now known as SatanicSanta
L139[12:26:17] <ForgeDiscord>
<Shadows> @Corosus fastbench does kill a pretty big login
packet but its often not enough, it's main focus is shift crafting
lag. Theres a mod which kills the timer for login attempts called
RandomPatches which may help more.
L140[12:28:04] <Corosus> ohhhhh thanks for
the tip!
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L153[15:30:28] <ForgeDiscord> <Ben>
@Corosus the long login time for revelations comes from stellar
api
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L156[15:41:41] <ben_mkiv> sorry was
wrong... doesnt, stellar sky isnt even in the pack
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L161[16:06:54] <halvors> Is there any way
i can migrate my block id's between mincraft versions? Like between
1.7 and 1.8 and 1.12 and 1.13?
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L164[16:14:32] <ForgeDiscord>
<JamiesWhiteShirt> there are no promises for world
compatibility in 1.12 to 1.13
L165[16:14:50] <ForgeDiscord>
<JamiesWhiteShirt> in forge, that is. vanilla will have
to
L166[16:16:22] <TechnicianLP> halvors
theres a MissingMappingsEvent or DataFixers iirc
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L173[16:41:45] <halvors> TechnicianLP:
Thanks, mostly i'm fixing my mod to use fewer block id's, i know
that won't matter for 1.13 but for 1.10+ it does.
L174[16:42:02] <halvors> TechnicianLP: Is
there a way to do this in 1.10 as well? Seems the missing mapping
event is only for 1.12?
L175[16:42:19] <TechnicianLP> never used
that stuff
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L186[17:24:53] <LexManos> missing mapping
exists in 1.10
L187[17:25:15] <LexManos> Its really
really old, I think it was added when we built things for
1.7.
L188[17:25:57] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw>
Technically 1.6.4 had the original item tracking code.
L189[17:26:18] <LexManos> As for 1.13, I
wouldn't hold out for worlds being compatible in-game for 1.13.
Honestly i'd expect a external tool be written to convert
everything.
L190[17:26:35] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw>
There was code in 1.7 to migrate it to the 1.7 format. Since then
it's been converting mostly fine
L191[17:26:51] <LexManos> Mojang's
datafixer isn't exactly nice.. and im still not sure IF I can hack
it to not kill modded data.
L192[17:27:10] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw>
Yeah, it's far too coarse grained
L193[17:27:33] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw>
When I last looked at it, it really needed a new version layer put
on top to be useful
L194[17:30:27] <LexManos> Honestly I think
we should just add a error screen if people load 1.12 modded worlds
{has any blocks/items outside the MC package} and redirect them to
a external tool.
L195[17:30:44] <LexManos> And then have
that tool have some form of community based update mappings.
L196[17:31:02] <LexManos> So people can be
like "Heres a world converter config for SevTech!"
L198[17:31:38] <ForgeDiscord>
<halvors> But how can i do that for blockstates? Or blocks
having metadata types?
L199[17:31:45] <LexManos> And maybe a list
of generic save converter per mod... And add a "These are the
detected mods in the world auto-grabbing mod converters'
L200[17:31:46] <ForgeDiscord>
<halvors> Is it impossible in 1.10?
L201[17:32:47] <LexManos> Are you asking
how to split a single block with multiple subtypes into multiple
full blocks? or vise versa?
L202[17:34:58] <ForgeDiscord>
<halvors> Well i have 2 registry names for 2 blocks (old
code), now i have one block where those to old blocks is different
block states. Calling getBlock() on the blockstates works fine,
except that the registry doesn't seem to allow me to register that
new block (differnt subtypes) with the same registry name.
L203[17:36:47] <LexManos> well ya, its a
block registry not a blockstate registry.
L204[17:37:05] <LexManos> This... Im not
actually sure how to do... You can write a data fixer for it.
L205[17:38:38] <ForgeDiscord>
<halvors> Any good docs on that? Or examples?
L206[17:39:24] <ForgeDiscord>
<StrikerRocker> Vanilla has some datafixers
L207[17:45:14] <ForgeDiscord>
<halvors> Know of a mod using this for block mapping?
L209[17:52:02] <ForgeDiscord>
<halvors> Again, 1.10?`
L210[18:10:58] <LexManos> 1.11
L211[18:11:15] <LexManos> 1.10 probably
needs to register yourself with vanilla's stuff.
L212[18:19:48] <ForgeDiscord>
<halvors> Thanks for help ?
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<killjoy> remove optifine?
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