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L8[00:33:31] <illy> Boop o/
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L12[01:17:08] <Ashindigo_> Boop
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L22[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20170315 mappings to Forge Maven.
L23[02:00:07] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20170315-1.11.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20170315" in build.gradle).
L24[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/
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L101[07:57:31] <Ashindigo_> is an evoker a new 1.11 mob?
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L107[08:06:34] <ScottehBoeh> Hey guys,is there a way for me to get a count of mods installed?
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L109[08:08:47] <Ashindigo_> i presume Loader.instance().getActiveModList(); would get you what you need
L110[08:09:11] <Ashindigo_> or getModList()
L111[08:10:54] <gigaherz_> Ashindigo_: they were introduced with the mansions
L112[08:11:08] <Ashindigo_> Mansions?
L113[08:11:13] <gigaherz_> ..........
L114[08:11:21] <gigaherz_> go google ;P
L115[08:11:25] * Ashindigo_ is out of touch with modern mc
L116[08:11:37] <ScottehBoeh> ah many thanks :)
L117[08:13:31] <Ashindigo_> Your welcome
L118[08:14:41] <ScottehBoeh> is it possible for a Server to get the Mod list from a client?
L119[08:16:27] <gigaherz_> I belive the server does get the mod list during the login process
L120[08:16:34] <gigaherz_> I don't know if it keeps it past that, though
L121[08:16:37] <ScottehBoeh> mhm true, I'll see how they did it
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L123[08:17:05] <Ashindigo_> I dont know
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L135[09:23:09] <Katrix> ScottehBoeh NetworkDispatcher keeps the mods around
L136[09:24:58] <Katrix> If you have a EntityPlayerMP called player you can do something like NetworkDispatcher.get(player.connection.getNetworkdManager()).getModList()
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L143[10:12:42] <Intektor> does someone know how to use the wolfram alpha notebook?
L144[10:13:29] <Intektor> I want to simplify an equation
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L147[10:28:42] <Shambling> hrmmm... weird that all code that generates trees call "blockoldleaf"
L148[10:31:10] <Shambling> looks like this is why spruce and birch ignore biome coloration:
L149[10:31:11] <Shambling> return blockplanks$enumtype == BlockPlanks.EnumType.SPRUCE ? ColorizerFoliage.getFoliageColorPine() : (blockplanks$enumtype == BlockPlanks.EnumType.BIRCH ? ColorizerFoliage.getFoliageColorBirch() : (worldIn != null && pos != null ? BiomeColorHelper.getFoliageColorAtPos(worldIn, pos) : ColorizerFoliage.
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L151[10:31:31] <gigaherz_> Shambling: pretty much, yes
L152[10:31:41] <Shambling> is there a direct way to nuke that without affecting anythign else?
L153[10:31:51] <Shambling> I'd like my birch and spruce trees to look dead as well
L154[10:31:57] <gigaherz_> hmmm
L155[10:32:12] <gigaherz_> you could remove the other block color handler, and register your own
L156[10:32:26] <gigaherz_> may or may not require reflection
L157[10:33:11] <Shambling> I should be looking in ColorizerFoliage#getFoliageColorBirch and spruce then?
L158[10:34:21] <Shambling> hmmmm...
L159[10:34:52] <diesieben07> Shambling, you can just reigster your own IBlockColor instance for the leaves block
L160[10:35:10] <diesieben07> BlockColors::registerBlockColorHandler can be called again to override
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L163[10:35:16] <gigaherz|work> ah it overrides?
L164[10:35:23] <gigaherz|work> then yes that'd be best ;P
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L166[10:35:25] <diesieben07> yeah it just puts it into a map
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L168[10:35:44] <Shambling> ah ok, so I don't need to do anything to @override these two classes then http://pastebin.com/emFTnYSN
L169[10:35:47] <Shambling> err methods in that class
L170[10:35:59] <gigaherz|work> no all you need is an IBlockColor
L171[10:35:59] <diesieben07> you can't override static methods.
L172[10:36:15] <Shambling> dear god of course they'd make them static
L173[10:36:19] <Shambling> *slaps mojang*
L174[10:36:32] <diesieben07> nothing wrong with them being static.
L175[10:36:37] <gigaherz|work> it's ok in this case
L176[10:36:49] <Shambling> other than them being useless and obnoxious in that they ignore everything I want to use :P
L177[10:36:59] <gigaherz|work> all you want is your own anonymous IBlockColor
L178[10:37:01] <Falkreon> cpw, I'm having some trouble with addSubstitutionAlias... we've been trying to sort this out but asie said I should just ping you about it, please don't kill me ;_;
L179[10:37:02] <gigaherz|work> that overrides the vanilla one
L180[10:37:28] <Falkreon> I think the main problem is that the replacement's blockstate json varies from the original, and it's throwing NPE's in the modelbakery
L181[10:37:43] <Shambling> I'll look into that, in between shoveling the 37 inches of snow off of my car
L182[10:37:44] <Shambling> lol
L183[10:37:53] <gigaherz|work> that's a lot of snow
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L185[10:37:55] <gigaherz|work> it's sunny here
L186[10:38:03] <Falkreon> https://gist.github.com/falkreon/a10aa49cf5f592abf94ad43ffd0dfcb7 sorry it's not... really.. a minimal test case, but this is the gist we're using to triage the issue
L187[10:38:03] <gigaherz|work> Spain weather.
L188[10:40:33] <cpw> Falkreon, it's probably got a lot of problems, especially if you don't extend the original
L189[10:41:16] <Falkreon> it does extend the original
L190[10:41:26] <Falkreon> the field is actually a BlockObsidian, so I found that out already ^_^
L191[10:41:28] <cpw> *shrug*
L192[10:41:31] <cpw> keep fiddling with it
L193[10:41:43] <cpw> you have to load shit in a very specific order for it to work
L194[10:42:00] <Falkreon> Well I figured "as early as possible" was the right way to go
L195[10:42:11] <cpw> and quite honestly, you're 50/50 that it'll work at all
L196[10:42:14] <Falkreon> mhm.
L197[10:42:33] <Falkreon> At this point I'm just going to ditch chiseled varieties and concentrate on just getting the block to work.
L198[10:42:41] <cpw> substitutions have never worked very well. i never had time to properly test the SO FUCKING MANY scenarios with them
L199[10:42:56] <cpw> there's a bunch of tests in forge 1.11.2
L200[10:43:00] <cpw> take a look at those
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L220[11:29:31] <gigaherz> EWH, they changed youtube
L221[11:30:20] <gigaherz> actually it's not that bad
L222[11:30:37] <diesieben07> what did they break this time?
L223[11:30:40] <gigaherz> they changed it
L224[11:30:41] <gigaherz> completely
L225[11:30:44] <gigaherz> new design / theme
L226[11:30:50] <gigaherz> it's still the same layout mostly
L227[11:30:57] <gigaherz> but not quite
L228[11:31:01] <diesieben07> don't have it yet
L229[11:31:03] <diesieben07> yay ab testing
L230[11:31:40] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/new%20youtube.PNG
L231[11:32:03] <gigaherz> there's a thing in the bottom right
L232[11:32:03] <diesieben07> they material-ized it
L233[11:32:08] <diesieben07> badum-tss
L234[11:32:08] <gigaherz> with feedback / return to classic
L235[11:32:30] <williewillus> i still have the old one :P
L236[11:32:39] <diesieben07> also eww list view
L237[11:32:50] <williewillus> the sidebar looks kind of ugly imo
L238[11:32:56] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/new%20youtube%20-%20video.PNG
L239[11:32:58] <williewillus> should have a clear border
L240[11:33:01] <gigaherz> diesieben07: go away ;P
L241[11:33:04] <gigaherz> list view is the only good view ;P
L242[11:33:11] <diesieben07> no it's not :D
L243[11:33:18] <williewillus> yeah this redesign is just "remove ALL the borders"
L244[11:33:19] <gigaherz> williewillus: the scrollbar appears if you hover it
L245[11:33:19] <diesieben07> looks a bit like youtube gaming
L246[11:33:23] <williewillus> also, thumbnail view :P
L247[11:33:24] <diesieben07> anyone use that?
L248[11:33:28] <gigaherz> nope
L249[11:33:30] <gigaherz> it's annoying
L250[11:33:45] <gigaherz> even for livestreams
L251[11:33:50] <diesieben07> it sure is
L252[11:38:48] <gigaherz> not sure if I like, that the video controls expand the full width, and not just the image area
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L278[13:32:54] <wundrweapon> hello friends
L279[13:33:06] <wundrweapon> could someone remind me what the difference was between itemblock and itemblockspecial?
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L281[13:35:01] <diesieben07> wundrweapon, ItemBlockSpecial is a legacy thing from things where the item is not really a normal ItemBlock but still places a block
L282[13:35:07] <diesieben07> e.g. redstone repeaters, sugarcane
L283[13:35:48] <wundrweapon> ah, i see
L284[13:36:11] <wundrweapon> you said it's legacy... if i checked for an item object to be instanceof it, would it still work as intended?
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L286[13:41:23] <diesieben07> of course
L287[13:41:39] <diesieben07> what i meant was kinda that you yourself shouldn't implement it
L288[13:42:09] <CodeBirb> @Deprecated >.>
L289[13:42:15] <diesieben07> ?
L290[13:43:17] <CodeBirb> Treat it like it'll disappear the next time you look for it. Eh.
L291[13:43:44] <diesieben07> that'll get better in java 9 ;)
L292[13:43:53] <CodeBirb> ohgod j9
L293[13:44:26] <wundrweapon> what's about J9?
L294[13:44:38] <CodeBirb> From CPW's ramblings, I assume that'll have some major shenanigans involved, is all
L295[13:45:03] <williewillus> that's just from jigsaw
L296[13:45:10] <williewillus> but java 9 also adds saner deprecation
L297[13:45:19] <williewillus> i.e. not overloading @Deprecated for literally every reason under the sun
L298[13:45:52] <CodeBirb> Like Mojang and their internals? :3
L299[13:46:48] <diesieben07> not shenanigans
L300[13:46:52] <diesieben07> what's going on today is shenanigans :D
L301[13:46:56] <diesieben07> the classpath is pure hell
L302[13:48:25] <Naiten> Hi there. How actual is this statistics? it tells me i should already update from 1.10.2 to 1.11.2 http://minecraftservers.org/stats
L303[13:48:42] <diesieben07> yes, you should.
L304[13:48:44] <Naiten> is it counting forges servers though i wonder
L305[13:49:18] <williewillus> where is this data coming from?
L306[13:49:30] <Naiten> no idea
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L308[13:51:22] <CodeBirb> 1.11 made some small changes. It honestly isn't that hard to update.
L309[13:51:52] <williewillus> well if you use lots of stacks
L310[13:51:55] <CodeBirb> Mostly a few signature changes and the Itemstack.EMPTY stuff, in my experience. Pretty quick to find things. >.>
L311[13:51:57] <williewillus> good luck hunting down all the nulls :P
L312[13:52:09] <CodeBirb> Search for "== null" ?
L313[13:52:19] <williewillus> yes which catches everything that isnt a stack
L314[13:52:42] <CodeBirb> Still, relatively painless.
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L316[13:56:06] <Naiten> welp, i'm still not sure if i should always run for the latest forge
L317[13:56:23] <Naiten> or stay on the most played or most modded version
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L323[14:11:19] <CodeBirb> If everyone coded for the "most modded" version, nobody would ever update anything. And we'll stay with old code forever.
L324[14:15:58] <McJty> CodeBirb, the itemstack changes are not painless if you have a mod that does a lot of itemstack manipulation
L325[14:16:00] <McJty> Like RFTools
L326[14:16:10] <McJty> For me the 1.10->1.11 transition was once of the hardest ever
L327[14:16:16] <McJty> Because of all the hard to find bugs
L328[14:16:39] <McJty> All changes before that were easy as the compiler complained if you didn't do it right :-)
L329[14:20:42] <williewillus> mojang themselves have a stack bug on top of the tracker that people are complaining about
L330[14:20:50] <williewillus> because they accidentally used == EMPTY instead of isEmpty() :p
L331[14:21:30] <McJty> Lovely :-)
L332[14:25:23] <tterrag> has anyone here tried to mix jenkins and github 2FA?
L333[14:25:31] <Ashindigo_> Gotta love mojang
L334[14:25:31] <tterrag> I need to setup a build of a private repo, and obviously just user/pass don't work
L335[14:25:40] <PaleoCrafter> app passwords or something?
L336[14:25:44] <diesieben07> ssh keys?
L337[14:25:44] <Akkarin> doesn't Jenkins support SSH keys? :o
L338[14:25:46] <PaleoCrafter> alternatively, --^
L339[14:25:46] <tterrag> PaleoCrafter, yeah I have a personal token
L340[14:25:47] <diesieben07> :D
L341[14:25:48] <PaleoCrafter> :P
L342[14:25:54] <tterrag> I have no idea where to put it
L343[14:26:00] <Akkarin> SSH keys would be the logical and technically most secure way ;-)
L344[14:26:00] <tterrag> when you create a credential, it just asks for user/pass
L345[14:26:07] <Akkarin> deployment keys are also a thing for that purpose
L346[14:26:13] <Akkarin> uhhh does it invoke git? in that case ssh configs work
L347[14:26:36] <tterrag> I mean, yeah
L348[14:26:40] <tterrag> at some level, it invokes git
L349[14:26:53] <diesieben07> you just use ssh://git@ etc
L350[14:26:58] <diesieben07> their wiki says that works
L351[14:27:03] <diesieben07> then you just have to add the key to ssh
L352[14:27:09] <tterrag> what key
L353[14:27:14] <diesieben07> the ssh key file
L354[14:27:14] <tterrag> all I have is an OAuth token
L355[14:27:29] <diesieben07> https://help.github.com/articles/connecting-to-github-with-ssh/
L356[14:27:39] <Akkarin> well jgit afaik doesn't respect your ssh config since it doesn't invoke git. Given that Jenkins uses Java there's still the chance that it doesn't invoke git itself and use the Java implementation
L357[14:27:42] <Akkarin> that's why I asked ;-)
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L359[14:35:13] <tterrag> "Failed to connect to repository : Command "git ls-remote -h ssh://git@github.com:[repo] HEAD" returned status code 128:"
L360[14:35:20] <tterrag> after following all the steps...
L361[14:36:15] <Akkarin> There's probably more info in the log
L362[14:36:17] <diesieben07> maybe? http://stackoverflow.com/q/16721629/3638966
L363[14:36:19] <Akkarin> since that itself doesn't mean much
L364[14:36:25] <tterrag> not really
L365[14:36:26] <tterrag> "stderr: Host key verification failed.
L366[14:36:26] <tterrag> fatal: Could not read from remote repository."
L367[14:36:35] <Akkarin> connect via ssh once to github
L368[14:36:42] <Akkarin> to add the key ... or add it manually I guess
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L370[14:36:49] <tterrag> oh, might be a user thing
L371[14:37:23] <Akkarin> It's quite a common issue when you run git in a non-interactive environment since it asks you to confirm that you trust the host key once when it discovers the key
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L374[14:41:37] <tterrag> got it
L375[14:41:39] <tterrag> I think
L376[14:42:18] <tterrag> nope, still 128
L377[14:42:28] <tterrag> even though when I try to ssh as the jenkins user it works fine
L378[14:44:19] <tterrag> should the private key not have a passcode?
L379[14:45:00] <Lord_Ralex> probably should not
L380[14:45:03] <Akkarin> probably not no
L381[14:45:20] <tterrag> great
L382[14:45:23] <tterrag> gotta redo all that then
L383[14:45:24] <Akkarin> a lot of programs can't deal with that behavior in non-interactive
L384[14:45:28] <Akkarin> you can decrypt ssh keys afaik
L385[14:46:59] <tterrag> yes
L386[14:47:00] <tterrag> finally
L387[14:47:34] <Lord_Ralex> although, iirc, github lets you add "passcodes" that will function for user/pass when you have 2fa enabled
L388[14:47:45] <Lord_Ralex> so ssh was not the only way, but really is the better way
L389[14:47:49] <Akkarin> Well SSH keys are much nicer though
L390[14:48:00] <Akkarin> given that they're never transmitted and what not
L391[14:48:46] <Shambling> god hurt all over
L392[14:48:52] <tterrag> Lord_Ralex, that's what I was saying at the beginning
L393[14:48:58] <Shambling> it took forever to get shoveled out of that blizzard
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L397[15:08:17] <Shambling> I think I remember what I was going to work on before going out to shovel at 10am est, 6 hours later of shoveling, I am no longer as fixated on having properly colored wasteland spruce and pine and birch trees
L398[15:10:38] <williewillus> where is this?
L399[15:11:47] <Shambling> the snow?
L400[15:11:49] <Shambling> upstate new york
L401[15:12:34] <Shambling> and now my internet is dying now that I finally get t osit down
L402[15:12:35] <Shambling> =(
L403[15:15:46] <Shambling> ah, maybe its just youtube trying to force ads down my throat,m and not the internet
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L406[15:26:38] <wundrweapon> i can add and enchantment to stuff when crafted/smelted, but can i make it have the enchantment straight out of the creative inventory? like one of the Metallurgy swords does?
L407[15:26:48] <diesieben07> sure
L408[15:26:50] <williewillus> override getSubItems
L409[15:26:55] <williewillus> or whatever its called
L410[15:26:57] <diesieben07> yep
L411[15:26:59] <diesieben07> getSubItems
L412[15:27:15] <diesieben07> whatever you put in the List is what appears in the creative tab
L413[15:27:21] <wundrweapon> where in? the item's class?
L414[15:27:23] <williewillus> yeah
L415[15:27:55] <wundrweapon> and why would that help?
L416[15:28:02] <wundrweapon> ooh ok
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L418[15:30:02] <wundrweapon> for such a powerful IDE, IntelliJ IDEA is unbelievably annoying
L419[15:30:09] <diesieben07> how so?
L420[15:30:11] <williewillus> what part? :P
L421[15:31:55] <wundrweapon> it puts the little label things on params (which is kinda nice, but kinda obnoxious at the same time); it's incredibly particular about casing (can't find "EnderAdvancement" class from "enderadv" but can from "EnderAdv"); it starts putting out code suggestions after one character...
L422[15:32:13] <diesieben07> a) you can turn that off
L423[15:32:14] <williewillus> i turn the label thing off lol
L424[15:32:19] <diesieben07> b) that is totally reasonable.
L425[15:32:26] <diesieben07> c) ... and?
L426[15:32:38] <williewillus> and not sure about the search for me it's pretty lenient on me fuzzing things
L427[15:32:45] <wundrweapon> hm
L428[15:32:53] <diesieben07> yeah in search it doesnt do that for me
L429[15:32:54] <PaleoCrafter> as far as b) is concerned: save yourself some typing and simply write EA, camel case search takes care of that :P
L430[15:32:55] <wundrweapon> maybe i just need to fiddle with all the 50,000+ settings some more
L431[15:32:59] <diesieben07> i thought you meant autocomplete
L432[15:33:13] <williewillus> you can even do stuff like "EAdv" and the search (ctrl+N at least) should find "EnderAdvancement"
L433[15:33:23] <wundrweapon> i am talking about autocomplete
L434[15:34:13] <diesieben07> well, if you start with a lower case letter that is an indication you mean a variable name
L435[15:34:16] <diesieben07> not a class name
L436[15:34:20] <diesieben07> so, it will suggest variable names.
L437[15:34:30] <wundrweapon> eclipse would pull out both - i like that
L438[15:34:41] <diesieben07> well, that's less accurate though :P
L439[15:34:42] <williewillus> i mean, it should try to determine depending on the surrounding syntax what you want
L440[15:34:47] <diesieben07> that too
L441[15:35:20] <diesieben07> and even if... if you prefer eclipse, why are you using intellij? :D
L442[15:36:23] <wundrweapon> because I wanted to try it, at least for a while
L443[15:36:31] <wundrweapon> get a feel for it and see if it's nice
L444[15:36:42] <diesieben07> trust me, it is nice :D
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L449[15:38:04] <wundrweapon> lol
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L452[15:42:39] <williewillus> lol what the hell
L453[15:42:43] <williewillus> squids used to spawn in lava
L454[15:43:25] <wundrweapon> that's h a r d c o r e
L455[15:43:51] <williewillus> it was fixed in 1.11 but it would just be sad if it's been a bug since squids were added
L456[15:44:24] <williewillus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U8WTi2aJ6M&feature=youtu.be&t=2m21s
L457[15:49:30] <wundrweapon> how do i disable the whole @SuppressWarnings("unused") -> /unused/ thing?
L458[15:49:59] <williewillus> in the Editor section of the options somewhere
L459[15:50:23] <gigaherz> :O~~ so good. the best pseudo-yakisoba I have cooked so far (I say pseudo because I'm 99% certain the sauce doens't taste anything like the real thing)
L460[15:50:40] <williewillus> whoah look who's not afk
L461[15:50:42] <wundrweapon> found it
L462[15:50:44] <williewillus> lol
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L464[15:54:39] <lashtear> clearly we need giant magmasquids in the nether oceans that send out tentacles to drag people in
L465[15:54:57] <wundrweapon> ^
L466[15:55:02] <wundrweapon> kraken 2.0
L467[15:55:25] <gigaherz> williewillus: if you refer to me, that just means IRC disconnected and the nick was still in use when it reconnected
L468[15:55:40] <lashtear> >
L469[15:55:55] <williewillus> :P
L470[15:56:12] <williewillus> its just usually whenever i see you you usually have your afk nick
L471[16:00:14] <gigaherz> yeah I know
L472[16:00:22] <gigaherz> I do /nick ghz|afk before I go to sleep
L473[16:00:45] <gigaherz> but I don't just do /nick gigaherz when I get back from work -- too tired by then, can't be bothered
L474[16:01:03] <PaleoCrafter> are you using a bouncer? :P
L475[16:01:08] <gigaherz> nope
L476[16:01:16] <gigaherz> my computer is just on 24/7
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L478[16:02:07] <PaleoCrafter> have you considered scripting an awaynick thing into your client? :P
L479[16:04:01] <gigaherz> I used to have an auto-unaway once
L480[16:04:04] <gigaherz> it was annoying ;P
L481[16:04:15] <gigaherz> sometimes you don't want to be unaway'd ;P
L482[16:04:28] <wundrweapon> IDEA: "looks like you sat auto-import to Ctrl+Shift+Alt+O"; me: *presses Ctrl+Shift+Alt+O*; IDEA: *doesn't do jack shit*
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L484[16:05:28] <PaleoCrafter> maybe because it didn't need to do anything? :P
L485[16:05:51] <PaleoCrafter> although it displays a little popup over your cursor in that case, too
L486[16:06:01] <wundrweapon> i needed to import 12 classed; didn't have any imported
L487[16:06:07] <wundrweapon> classes*
L488[16:06:42] <gigaherz> meh, just let it suggest
L489[16:06:46] <gigaherz> and alt-enter each one ;P
L490[16:06:58] <wundrweapon> i don't have a choice... -_-
L491[16:08:01] <PaleoCrafter> Optimize imports should take care of auto-resolving required imports, too
L492[16:08:12] <PaleoCrafter> unless you've configured it not to do so :P
L493[16:09:16] <diesieben07> just turn on optimize imports on the fly
L494[16:09:27] <diesieben07> and "resolve unambiguous imports on the fly", too if you want
L495[16:09:36] <diesieben07> basically never have to think about imports anymore
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L497[16:10:53] <PaleoCrafter> do add scala.actors.threadpool.Arrays to your exclusion list though :P
L498[16:11:02] <diesieben07> just scala.* :P
L499[16:11:09] <diesieben07> if you are programming java
L500[16:11:21] <PaleoCrafter> nah, maybe you can make use of something in the scala lib :P
L501[16:11:34] <diesieben07> don't do that...
L502[16:12:00] <heldplayer> I simply remove the scala dependencies in IJ
L503[16:12:39] <PaleoCrafter> you should definitely go ahead and replace all your lists by instances of $colon$colon :P
L504[16:12:47] <diesieben07> lol
L505[16:12:49] <heldplayer> lol
L506[16:13:34] <wundrweapon> have a bash script ready that removes any line of code with an E in it - case insensitive
L507[16:13:46] <wundrweapon> it'll compile 30% faster that way! >:3
L508[16:14:11] <diesieben07> reminds me of https://github.com/mathiasbynens/evil.sh
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L511[16:16:10] <heldplayer> So mostly just deleting stuff when you do basic operations
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L517[16:32:59] <tterrag> yeah, it could do without a lot of the "lol delete everythign instead" ones
L518[16:33:05] <tterrag> the rest are actually funny and annoying
L519[16:35:01] <tterrag> except the first one, that's amazing
L520[16:35:45] <diesieben07> my favorite is the cd drive
L521[16:36:27] <diesieben07> that... was the wrong button.
L522[16:36:53] <diesieben07> huh i didn't even leave the channel? znc be weird.
L523[16:37:01] <Ashindigo_> my favorite is the floppy drive
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L543[17:41:49] <diesieben07> please ... kill ... me ... http://i.imgur.com/wJJgMAV.png
L544[17:42:40] <gigaherz> is that comic sans?
L545[17:42:43] <diesieben07> yes
L546[17:46:17] <fry> http://i.imgur.com/5Rh7jZj.png
L547[17:46:18] <diesieben07> why are people so thick... http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/topic/52794-bad-gateway-problem/
L548[17:47:50] <quadraxis> why is comic sans an option .-.
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L570[19:05:43] <Shambling> oh lord, hello crappy youtube layout
L571[19:07:11] <gigaherz> I'm enjoying it so far
L572[19:07:40] <Shambling> thankfully they didn't move watch later and hid favorites and the other useless video links
L573[19:08:11] <Shambling> so I guess its good for that
L574[19:09:11] <gigaherz> they didn't "move" anything
L575[19:09:13] <gigaherz> just changed the theme
L576[19:09:29] <gigaherz> sortof
L577[19:12:58] <Shambling> well I have more stuff auto-hidden onw
L578[19:13:00] <Shambling> so I dunno
L579[19:13:31] <gigaherz> hmm maybe your layout is different than mine
L580[19:14:42] <gigaherz> SHIT, dropbox removed the public link item from the menu
L581[19:14:47] <gigaherz> like, automatically, after midnight
L582[19:15:01] <gigaherz> it updated itself or something, without asking
L583[19:15:26] <gigaherz> [17:31] (gigaherz): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/new%20youtube.PNG
L584[19:15:27] <gigaherz> [17:32] (gigaherz): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/new%20youtube%20-%20video.PNG
L585[19:15:30] <gigaherz> thisi s how I see youtube now ;P
L586[19:15:59] <Shambling> why the eff does youtube always stop my video when I open a page on another tab
L587[19:16:01] <Shambling> argh
L588[19:16:06] <Shambling> and those say link not something
L589[19:16:14] <Shambling> file not found
L590[19:16:23] <gigaherz> yeah that means they fully removed the public links feature
L591[19:16:28] <gigaherz> and fuck anyone using those links
L592[19:16:37] <gigaherz> time to find a different service.
L593[19:16:42] <gigaherz> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqquykqj3u9vpm1/new%20youtube.PNG?dl=0
L594[19:16:46] <gigaherz> https://www.dropbox.com/s/omikqecbvies0s8/new%20youtube%20-%20video.PNG?dl=0
L595[19:17:08] <Corosus> yeah
L596[19:17:14] <gigaherz> I literally have no use for dropbox without the public links feature
L597[19:17:22] <Corosus> they were planning on removing the public folder for a while now
L598[19:17:22] <gigaherz> other services do everything else while providing more space
L599[19:17:26] <gigaherz> so yeah
L600[19:17:34] <gigaherz> byebye dropbox
L601[19:17:54] <gigaherz> i'll miss you, but not what you have become
L602[19:18:08] <Corosus> i also switched from them, made my own lil script that lets me get an http link for a file on my computer that just ftp uploads to my site
L603[19:18:28] <Corosus> all those public links out in the wild right now that are breaking ....
L604[19:18:36] <Shambling> weren't there like... monsters added to the lava in 1.11.2 or 1.10.2, I don't remember seeing them for a while
L605[19:18:58] <gigaherz> wat
L606[19:19:06] <gigaherz> not in vanilla
L607[19:19:17] <Shambling> so did dropbox get bought by a shitty company like microsoft recently?
L608[19:19:18] <kashike> gigaherz: long live imgur.com :P
L609[19:19:22] <gigaherz> all they added is endermen spawns in the nether
L610[19:19:47] <Shambling> wait... so what is the point of dropbox if not used for public folders
L611[19:19:56] <gigaherz> "cloud storage"
L612[19:20:00] <gigaherz> you can share links
L613[19:20:02] <gigaherz> just not direct links
L614[19:20:03] <Shambling> air quotes
L615[19:20:06] <gigaherz> they want you to visit the page
L616[19:20:10] <gigaherz> so you can see whatever
L617[19:20:13] <Shambling> probably ads
L618[19:20:26] <gigaherz> yeah they want to suggest you to buy premium and all
L619[19:20:26] <gigaherz> ;P
L620[19:20:36] <Shambling> yeah not going to happen
L621[19:20:56] <Shambling> if I want cloud storage, I'll sell my details to China and Russia directly
L622[19:20:58] <Corosus> yeah the loss of direct links is a dick move on their part
L623[19:22:04] <gigaherz> deleted my account
L624[19:22:11] <gigaherz> (I don't care for the dropbox history)
L625[19:22:21] <gigaherz> I want them to know I'm not impressed ;P
L626[19:23:25] <Corosus> i still use its apps feature to sync notes and shopping lists between pc and phone, aside from that its useless to me now
L627[19:23:37] <gigaherz> ah my phone finished updating :D
L628[19:23:40] <gigaherz> I got android 7.0 now
L629[19:23:48] <killjoy> It grew on me
L630[19:23:52] <killjoy> hated it at first
L631[19:24:01] <gigaherz> what did?
L632[19:24:05] <gigaherz> dropbox? or android 7?
L633[19:24:08] <killjoy> android 7
L634[19:24:16] <killjoy> it was very white
L635[19:24:20] <gigaherz> I use Action Launcher 3
L636[19:24:25] <gigaherz> not much has changed visually for me ;P
L637[19:24:39] <killjoy> I use stock s7
L638[19:24:57] <gigaherz> mine's a Z5 compact
L639[19:25:00] <Shambling> I really hope my phone doesn't auto update, its slow enough now as it is. lol
L640[19:25:30] <Shambling> I'll need to either cancel verizon or upgrade some time in the future lol
L641[19:25:57] <Shambling> verizon is actively switching everything to data lately, even going so far as disable voice on new towers forcing everything over the data channel
L642[19:26:08] <gigaherz> wat o_O
L643[19:26:20] <Shambling> oh, you have unlimited voice do you? too bad the new towers don't carry voice channels! lol
L644[19:27:35] <Corosus> lol what
L645[19:27:41] <Shambling> the 4glte towers don't support 3g at all, meaning no voice unless yo uswitch to 'advanced voice' which uses data :P
L646[19:28:33] <Shambling> unless I'm misunderstanding their intentions, it would seem that would be because they limit data, and want to charge more :P
L647[19:29:09] <Shambling> either way, the only people that call me are telemarketers and bill collectors, so not a huge loss
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L649[19:30:17] <Shambling> so much pain, thanks for putting up with my aimless rambling while I look over code
L650[19:30:24] <Shambling> g'night guys, hope it doesn't snow tomorrow :P
L651[19:30:40] <Corosus> its snow problem
L652[19:30:43] <Corosus> \o\
L653[19:30:46] <Shambling> oh god
L654[19:30:49] <Shambling> the pun
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L658[19:42:00] <gigaherz> hey wtf
L659[19:42:03] <gigaherz> youtube changed again
L660[19:42:21] <gigaherz> the history and watch later icons are now under "library" instead of in the main group
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L674[21:00:44] <LatvianModder> gigaherz: that kinda makes more sense, those are playlists
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L676[21:13:46] <killjoy> https://youtu.be/PhKM3HgFCYI
L677[21:39:28] <Corosus> i accidentally started using ChatFormatting from the realms lib realmsclient package, is that included on dedicated servers?
L678[21:39:59] <Corosus> i should probably switch to TextFormatting anyways
L679[21:40:02] <Corosus> damn renames
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L702[23:28:12] <SatanicSanta> Lex: https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/issues/3787#issuecomment-286954677 what? What function are you talking about?
L703[23:29:06] <SatanicSanta> Lex: If you're talking about generate, that is not helpful because the actual generation code would have to be completely reimplemented or copypasted from the vanilla one, as I explained in the op
L704[23:29:54] <mezz> copy pasting code from vanilla is necessary for all kinds of weird stuff I've done
L705[23:30:07] <SatanicSanta> That doesn't mean that is a good thing
L706[23:30:42] <mezz> here's the thing, Forge is about compatibility between mods and making it so that mods can accomplish what they want to do
L707[23:30:47] <SatanicSanta> (Also, just saying, in the particular example I brought up, in my case, having it exposed to "cave air" is totally fine)
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L709[23:31:12] <mezz> but it can't be in the business of making everything clean and convenient or it will be absurdly bloated quickly, minecraft is too messy
L710[23:31:33] <SatanicSanta> mezz: It is also arbitrarily about adding useful APIs for mods. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Forge should make a decision on whether it does that or not.
L711[23:31:49] <mezz> like what?
L712[23:32:26] <mezz> in this case you can easily create your own worldgen class, the logic is not very exotic
L713[23:32:49] <mezz> in fact you could make your own library for convenient things like this, without needing forge to do it
L714[23:32:55] <SatanicSanta> >make your own library
L715[23:33:33] <SatanicSanta> The fact that every mod has its own library these days should be seen as an issue in my opinion
L716[23:33:42] <SatanicSanta> also to answer your question
L717[23:33:43] <SatanicSanta> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/tree/1.11.x/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/event
L718[23:33:52] <SatanicSanta> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/tree/1.11.x/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/fluids
L719[23:34:20] <mezz> events help mods work together when they are hooking into the same areas
L720[23:34:20] <SatanicSanta> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/tree/1.11.x/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/common/brewing
L721[23:34:41] <mezz> fluids are dumb but it became a standard because so many people use them
L722[23:34:41] <SatanicSanta> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/tree/1.11.x/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/common/config
L723[23:34:58] <mezz> brewing is .. what about it?
L724[23:35:12] <SatanicSanta> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/1.11.x/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/common/ISpecialArmor.java
L725[23:35:39] <SatanicSanta> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/tree/1.11.x/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/energy
L726[23:35:50] <mezz> I can't tell if you're being a dick or what, this isn't a conversation if you're just sending me links
L727[23:36:18] <SatanicSanta> My point is that Forge clearly is not just about makign mods compatible with each otehr
L728[23:36:35] <mezz> there are some library features that are so universal that a very large portion of mods will use them
L729[23:36:46] <mezz> they are exceptions
L730[23:37:44] <mezz> for something like this worldgen, it's less than a 100 line class to implement
L731[23:37:55] <mezz> and very few people need it
L732[23:37:57] <SatanicSanta> Honestly I'm not really annoyed about this specifically but about the arbitrary design decisions Lex makes and his refusal to add shit because he doesn't personally think they'll be useful despite the fact that he isn't a mod developer
L733[23:38:12] <mezz> don't take that out on me
L734[23:38:34] <SatanicSanta> I wasn't trying to be a dick, I was just linking examples
L735[23:38:43] <mezz> I'm trying to answer your question in earnest
L736[23:38:43] <SatanicSanta> Sorry if it came across that way
L737[23:40:29] <SatanicSanta> mezz: And ultimately your suggestion is what I'm going to do. I still have no idea what function he's talking about though :P
L738[23:40:56] <mezz> for some of the example you linked, those would not be possible outside of Forge. for some things like configs, fluids, it's lex's choice to add them because they are useful, but it's not forge's usual policy to keep and maintain stuff like that
L739[23:42:51] <SatanicSanta> "What Lex says goes" is a problem imo
L740[23:43:01] <mezz> it's his project?
L741[23:43:45] <SatanicSanta> I'm a communist so if we get into that debate we'll probably never end lmao
L742[23:46:13] <killjoy> "don't you dare create your own project"
L743[23:46:25] <mezz> yeah well I'm a solipsist so :P
L744[23:46:39] <killjoy> now we just need a capitalist
L745[23:46:44] <mezz> heh
L746[23:46:54] <mezz> I didn't say socialist
L747[23:47:11] <SatanicSanta> killjoy: No that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying MinecraftForge's codebase has more impact on the community than it does Lex so the community should dictate what happens to it.
L748[23:48:01] <mezz> all that's happening here is that a line is drawn saying "no this does not belong in this project". doesn't mean it can't exist somewhere else
L749[23:48:12] <killjoy> I think the only thing it does really is add standard ways of doing things
L750[23:48:23] <killjoy> You're free to debate what those standards should be
L751[23:48:29] <killjoy> as in ieee standards
L752[23:48:34] <killjoy> or eitf
L753[23:48:40] <SatanicSanta> eitf?
L754[23:48:54] <killjoy> https://www.ietf.org/
L755[23:49:09] <killjoy> ^ those guys host the rfc's
L756[23:49:33] <SatanicSanta> mezz: Honestly I just wanted to know what method Lex was talking about since he didn't specify
L757[23:49:54] * killjoy has a habit of not reading all the chat log
L758[23:49:59] <mezz> I don't know, I'm pretty sure you have to copy the vanilla method
L759[23:50:55] <SatanicSanta> I was expecting the issue to get rejected, which is fine because I am going to make my WorldGenMinable impl faster anyway
L760[23:51:16] <mezz> cool
L761[23:52:42] <SatanicSanta> Although if it was accepted I probably wouldn't've done that because effort :P
L762[23:55:43] <mezz> feel free to make a communist super library, for some reason nobody has been able to build up enough trust to really create "the" trusted library mod but maybe it would address your concerns and be good for the community
L763[23:56:37] <SatanicSanta> Esteemed Innovation, which has a public API, is operated in a socialist/communist fashion... Hm. Someone did mention a "steamy lib" on Discord recently...
L764[23:56:58] <mezz> I think part of it is that a lot of libraries go waaay out of scope, or just stop getting maintained, or do crazy hacks and end up incompatible
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L766[23:59:31] <mezz> with JEI I went after what I saw was the big community need but kept it small, so I can actually maintain it without losing my sanity too much
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