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L21[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20170309 mappings to Forge Maven.

L22[02:00:07] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20170309-1.11.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20170309" in build.gradle).

L23[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L45[04:27:55] <h5h77> can a blockstate have an unlimited amount of properties?

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L47[04:33:11] <fry> why do you ask? :P

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L51[05:08:23] <Molander> yellow! I was wondering what the english word i wanna look into is for the part that immersive engineering uses for their cables, the client side "hanging rope". What is that, sprite?

L52[05:11:35] <Molander> nvm its defenitly not sprite.

L53[05:14:47] <Molander> is it just a custom entity?

L54[05:17:09] <Molander> particle?

L55[05:21:58] <Molander> figured i can look at the lead

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L58[05:55:44] <h5h77> fry just out of curiosity :P

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L60[05:57:05] <fry> private final ImmutableMap < IProperty<?>, Comparable<? >> properties;

L61[05:57:18] <fry> the limit is the same as the limit on the number of items in a map :P

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L66[06:37:42] <asdfowkw> Hey, how do i get the block im hitting INSIDE the BreakSpeed event?

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L69[07:15:26] <asdfowkw> What am i doing wrong here? https://paste.ee/p/Wj4iv

L70[07:17:37] <asdfowkw> only getting no match when the block is infact a log.

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L74[07:45:51] <LexMobile> First off don't create item stacks in the loop

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L95[09:40:02] <Intektor> how do I build a jar I can use in developement for other mods?

L96[09:40:07] <Intektor> my core mod

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L102[10:00:06] <PaleoCrafter> somebody in the mood to compile a list of relying on statics within Forge for me? :D (stuff like @EventBusSubscriber)

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L105[10:11:53] <TechnicianLP> Intektor: what do you mean by "core mod"?

L106[10:14:10] <ghz|afk> Intektor: you can use gradle to reference the code from another project, or do like me, get a maven setup, and just publish enever you need something updated ;P

L107[10:17:12] <TechnicianLP> theres also a deobfcompile for deps

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L112[10:33:10] <masa> what is the best way to determine the ItemStack that is needed for setting an IBlockState in the world? So basically the item the player would need to have in their inventory so that a blockstate from a template can be placed in the world?

L113[10:34:03] <masa> currently I'm just using Block#getPickBlock(), but I'm calling it with the blocksatte from the template, but for an air block in the world

L114[10:34:32] <masa> which breaks things if the method expects the blockstate in the world to be for the actual block

L115[10:35:32] <masa> should I just temporarily set the state in the world for the pickBlock() call and then revert back to air until the final set operation can be done?

L116[10:35:50] <masa> that will just be bad for performance...

L117[10:37:43] <masa> or would getSilkTouchDrop() be better...

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L128[11:26:49] <diesieben07> masa, there is no reliable way to do it. one example: cauldron and the cauldron item don't have any connection, except the hardcoding in ItemCauldron

L129[11:35:34] <masa> yeah, rather annoying :/

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L131[11:36:02] <masa> and getPickBlock() for flower pots returns the plant inside, not the items for the pot

L132[11:36:32] <diesieben07> the problem with your request is that there might be more than one such item.

L133[11:37:12] <masa> what do you mean?

L134[11:37:14] <PaleoCrafter> I think C&B has some relatively well-working method that does this, still not perfect of course

L135[11:37:40] <diesieben07> i mean block C might be placed by items A and B

L136[11:38:01] <diesieben07> or it might not be placeable at all, you might have to create it by right-clicking block X with item Y

L137[11:38:12] <masa> right... well I only need one, basically so that the player cn't place the blocks for free

L138[11:39:13] <masa> of course it won't be 100% accurate because there are lots of special cases and weird stuff, but if it works fow most common building blocks, that's fine

L139[11:40:13] <masa> so I'd rather have it so that if it's some weird block, it would fail to get the item and thus not allow placing it

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L141[11:42:58] <masa> I think I'll go with getSilkTouchDrop() for now

L142[11:48:00] <diesieben07> what exactly are you trying to do wiht this?

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L146[11:51:12] <masa> I have my "Wand of the Lazy Builder", which can among other things save areas to templates (based on the vanilla 1.9 template system), so when it's used in the Paste mode in sruvival, and I need to check for and consume the appropriate items when placing blocks based on the template

L147[11:51:23] <masa> *survival

L148[11:52:54] <masa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m281lOQ0IQ

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L158[12:55:46] <blackmother> herro

L159[12:55:50] <blackmother> anyone around

L160[12:56:03] <blackmother> is there a plugin or a mod that stops custom mobs spawning in your spawn

L161[12:56:11] <blackmother> like i got this problem with skele's

L162[12:56:17] <blackmother> with machine guns and rocket launcher

L163[12:56:42] <TechnicianLP> you put a commandblock there that with "/kill @e[type!=player]"

L164[12:57:01] <blackmother> Does that actually work

L165[12:57:07] <blackmother> or does a plugin do a better job?

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L168[12:58:22] <TechnicianLP> with a bit of scoreboard/tag magic you could also allow certain mobs to stay while removing other

L169[13:00:41] <blackmother> yeah but i want to make a simple plugin that blocks mobs spawning in a certain range

L170[13:01:04] <blackmother> and i can moderifie it with commands.class

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L180[13:30:49] <diesieben07> masa, sorry, had to go afk for a bit. Why not loop through the inventory and check the block placed by each item?

L181[13:31:45] <gigaherz> give the wand a "learn" mode that scans the blocks you place, and learns to place them also

L182[13:31:57] <gigaherz> coudl be used as lore, if the wand contains some kind of brain inside

L183[13:32:04] <gigaherz> and it comes without knowledge

L184[13:32:05] <gigaherz> ;P

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L187[13:37:20] <masa> hehe

L188[13:37:38] <masa> diesieben07: and how would I check the block placed by each item?

L189[13:38:17] <masa> does this creep back into the super hacky fake world and fake item use territory...

L190[13:39:05] <masa> for ItemBlocks it should be easy, but not so much for the other items that just happen to place blocks...?

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L192[13:39:32] <diesieben07> onItemUse :D

L193[13:39:34] <diesieben07> so yes

L194[13:39:59] <asdfowkw> Anyone knows what the shortcutkey is in idea to show what params the method u are in want, if u understand what i mean.

L195[13:40:15] <gigaherz> no idea

L196[13:40:20] <gigaherz> I just go back to the opening paren

L197[13:40:22] <gigaherz> and retype it

L198[13:40:32] <asdfowkw> ye thats what i wanna get rid off xD

L199[13:40:58] <gigaherz> https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/2016.3/viewing-method-parameter-information.html

L200[13:41:02] <asdfowkw> ah found it

L201[13:41:04] <asdfowkw> ctrl p

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L204[13:50:10] <killjoy1> After reading ichun's post.. it can't be that hard to implement the gravity gun, can it?

L205[13:50:47] <killjoy1> It's really just moving around a fallingsand entity

L206[13:51:05] <fry> making a shitty gravity gun is reasonably easy

L207[13:51:43] <killjoy1> I'm sure it's been done, too

L208[13:52:27] <fry> making a reasonably good quality mod requires haldling tons of corner cases properly

L209[13:53:04] <killjoy1> Then again, we don't need another ProjectE

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L214[14:00:19] <heldplayer> What version of IDEA did they take those screenshots in ._.

L215[14:00:57] <heldplayer> And PhpStorm

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L217[14:01:36] <asdfowkw> win 95 xP

L218[14:02:23] <Lord_Ralex> nah, 95 looks better

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L220[14:02:47] <ScottehBoeh> http://imgur.com/a/QNX2K

L221[14:02:50] <ScottehBoeh> Orc Nation complete :D

L222[14:03:06] <ScottehBoeh> They've got the scariest looking weapons, mostly DIY

L223[14:04:21] <asdfowkw> you should add a point up at the tip of the sword

L224[14:04:38] <asdfowkw> http://game-preorders.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/orc-champion-sword.jpg

L225[14:07:36] <heldplayer> ScottehBoeh: I do suggest not changing the title of the game window when you release

L226[14:11:25] <ScottehBoeh> heldplayer What concerns does changing the game window title bring to the table?

L227[14:11:50] <heldplayer> Pretty much scolding by everybody

L228[14:11:56] <heldplayer> You don't change branding

L229[14:12:17] <heldplayer> Much like you don't change the Mojang logo on the loading screen

L230[14:13:54] <ScottehBoeh> I mean, it does still say Minecraft. It's a TC too

L231[14:14:00] <ScottehBoeh> but if it's that much of a concern, i'll look into it

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L233[14:14:33] <asdfowkw> Hm, I really need to get up to date with minecraft

L234[14:14:44] <asdfowkw> what are the green orbs on the left side in enchanting table?

L235[14:14:51] <asdfowkw> they dosnt exist in 1.7 ^^

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L237[14:14:53] <Ashindigo_> exp cost afaik

L238[14:15:01] <heldplayer> Just mentioning it, don't want you to get scolded by the community

L239[14:15:04] <asdfowkw> what about the normal level to the right then?

L240[14:15:17] <Ashindigo_> maybe lapis cost?

L241[14:16:18] <diesieben07> the levels that will be taken from you if you apply it

L242[14:16:31] <diesieben07> the right side is the level you need to have

L243[14:16:46] <asdfowkw> ah its a fix for the old bug where it would take 30 levels even if u are 300 ?

L244[14:17:04] <diesieben07> not a fix, a change of mechanic

L245[14:17:09] <diesieben07> you never pay more than 3 for an enchant

L246[14:17:22] <diesieben07> but you need to have level X to be able to apply it

L247[14:17:39] <asdfowkw> oh

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L250[14:19:15] <ScottehBoeh> For my mod, I'm planning on adding a REALLY epic Introduction UI to the Menu

L251[14:19:27] <ScottehBoeh> which will include a custom design of the Mojang Logo (a mojang logo in a shield maybe)

L252[14:19:45] <ScottehBoeh> a sword slash sound :D I could add an animation, would be epic

L253[14:20:02] <diesieben07> shipping the mojang logo yourself, even if modified and "epic" is still copyright infringement

L254[14:20:54] <ScottehBoeh> on the Minecraft loading screen?

L255[14:21:01] <diesieben07> no matter where.

L256[14:21:13] <diesieben07> it's mojang's property, you have no business in shipping it

L257[14:29:17] <TechnicianLP> you could ask for permission of course .. but you probably wont be allowed to

L258[14:30:42] <killjoy1> Only 2M switches got made, right?

L259[14:30:50] <killjoy1> I'm reading that 5M were sold

L260[14:32:14] <asdfowkw> what u talkin bout?

L261[14:32:29] * TechnicianLP only knows about bluescreen of death on the switch

L262[14:34:35] <ScottehBoeh> "I think this Orc helmet is too big for me.."

L263[14:34:36] <ScottehBoeh> http://i.imgur.com/OWf6cdv.png

L264[14:35:15] <ScottehBoeh> Yeah, the only thing I've really seen on the Switch is that you can accidentally stick the controllers together, and some people had issues with it freezing on them

L265[14:36:03] <asdfowkw> i really have to get a new nickname.. but thats damn hard.

L266[14:36:19] <kashike> ScottehBoeh: what does the text below Race say?

L267[14:36:30] <Vigaro> Press F to open?

L268[14:36:31] <asdfowkw> PRess F to open

L269[14:36:43] <kashike> my eyes suck

L270[14:36:50] <asdfowkw> Or

L271[14:36:59] <asdfowkw> we just cheated by having watched the previous images

L272[14:37:00] <asdfowkw> x)

L273[14:37:21] <kashike> cheater :p

L274[14:37:28] <ScottehBoeh> Yep :) Shows the leveling system

L275[14:37:31] <ScottehBoeh> lemme see if I can find that video

L276[14:38:10] <ScottehBoeh> kashike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieQphnnAf-w

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L281[14:53:12] <Nanobird> So, I am trying to build a gui widget thing, and for whatever reason I cannot get the actual parent gui's background to scale properly

L282[14:53:34] <Nanobird> I have tried basically every method I can think of, even direct GL calls.

L283[14:53:46] <PaleoCrafter> not quite sure what you mean

L284[14:53:55] <PaleoCrafter> what exactly do you want to do?

L285[14:54:21] <Nanobird> https://i.imgur.com/rGGdn6N.png

L286[14:54:33] <Nanobird> Solid red is the actual gui size, the texture is the background render

L287[14:55:04] <PaleoCrafter> you're using the Vanilla GUI methods, I suppose?

L288[14:55:29] <Nanobird> Right

L289[14:56:13] <gigaherz> it works!

L290[14:56:22] <gigaherz> I found a thing I did ages ago

L291[14:56:29] <gigaherz> in C# with Managed Directx

L292[14:56:35] <PaleoCrafter> is it alive, gigaherz?

L293[14:56:36] <gigaherz> and ported it to SharpDX

L294[14:56:37] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/2017-03-09-2053-25.mp4

L295[14:56:48] <PaleoCrafter> is your texture 256x256 and does the size of the background match the one you pass to the rectangle method, Nanobird?

L296[14:56:57] <gigaherz> i spent the past two days trying to figure out why it wasn't rendering

L297[14:57:06] <gigaherz> and it turns out I used the wrong vertex format declaration flags

L298[14:57:16] <gigaherz> (Position vs PositionRhw)

L299[14:57:38] <PaleoCrafter> heh

L300[14:57:40] <Nanobird> The gui is 512x512 and the actual bit in the texture is matched

L301[14:58:07] <PaleoCrafter> ah, well, the Vanilla methods assume a 256x256 texture

L302[14:58:10] <gigaherz> if your gui texture isn't 256x256

L303[14:58:14] <gigaherz> your pixel coords will be /2

L304[14:58:16] <gigaherz> so like

L305[14:58:18] <PaleoCrafter> yeah ^

L306[14:58:24] <gigaherz> you can't reference odd pixel

L307[14:58:31] <gigaherz> you can still useit

L308[14:58:37] <gigaherz> but each coord will advance 2 pixels

L309[14:58:40] <gigaherz> at a time

L310[14:58:52] <killjoy1> http://imgur.com/gallery/Ofus9

L311[14:59:01] <Nanobird> Okay, then, uhh

L312[14:59:10] <Nanobird> How would I go about making a texture for a 250x300 gui

L313[14:59:22] <PaleoCrafter> don't use Vanilla methods :P

L314[14:59:37] <gigaherz> Nanobird: there's a drawblahblahcustomsize

L315[14:59:43] <killjoy1> There's always that ONE person who suggests using direct lwjgl

L316[14:59:46] <gigaherz> jsut lookd for a method that has customsize in the name

L317[14:59:47] <PaleoCrafter> oh right, that's relatively new

L318[14:59:59] <gigaherz> however

L319[15:00:00] <Nanobird> I don't mind using direct GL

L320[15:00:07] <PaleoCrafter> killjoy1, nah, go through the VertexBuffer :P

L321[15:00:23] <killjoy1> that's a vanilla method

L322[15:00:24] <killjoy1> :P

L323[15:00:34] <gigaherz> it is slightly faster on gpus

L324[15:00:38] <gigaherz> to use power-of-two texture sizes

L325[15:00:39] <PaleoCrafter> well, I implied the "GUI" in my statement :P

L326[15:00:43] <gigaherz> specially on certain brands

L327[15:00:59] <gigaherz> so if your gui is 256x300

L328[15:01:04] <gigaherz> you may want to make it 256x512

L329[15:01:23] <Nanobird> ...I can do that?

L330[15:01:25] <gigaherz> yes

L331[15:01:30] <Nanobird> I thought it had to be square o.o

L332[15:01:31] <gigaherz> so long as you use the customsize draw

L333[15:01:33] <gigaherz> naah

L334[15:01:44] <gigaherz> only the atlas cares about squareness

L335[15:01:45] <Nanobird> This changes ERRYTHING

L336[15:01:57] * Nanobird flails, runs off to test

L337[15:02:04] <gigaherz> if you use bindTexture to use it

L338[15:02:10] <gigaherz> you can use any size

L339[15:02:13] <gigaherz> but powers of two are optimal

L340[15:02:29] <gigaherz> if you use bindTexture(LOCATION_BLOCKS_TEXTURE) or you don't have access to the texture itself

L341[15:02:30] <PaleoCrafter> the next logical step is implementing tiling from a sheet via shaders :P

L342[15:02:31] <gigaherz> then it's in the atlas

L343[15:02:47] <gigaherz> and it has to fit certain restrictions

L344[15:03:39] <Nanobird> So, then... Gui.drawModalRectWithCustomSizedTexture(0, 0, 0, 0, xSize, xSize, 256, 512);

L345[15:03:50] <gigaherz> something along those lines

L346[15:03:57] <gigaherz> I don't remember the params ;P

L347[15:07:05] <Nanobird> welp

L348[15:07:08] <Nanobird> That did it.

L349[15:07:21] <Nanobird> Hurrah, I can finally go dick around with other things \o/

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L353[15:13:08] <Shambling> thanks to whoever linked me that greasy monkey html5 blocker

L354[15:13:20] <gigaherz> o/

L355[15:13:26] <gigaherz> I think

L356[15:13:32] <Shambling> really can't stand youtube with html5 on, and not to mention the unblockable html5 ads on other sites

L357[15:13:34] <gigaherz> maybe someone else linked some other later ;P

L358[15:13:40] <gigaherz> oh wait

L359[15:13:45] <gigaherz> no I linked a 30fps script

L360[15:13:47] <Shambling> I think it was probably you gigaherz

L361[15:13:48] <gigaherz> not a html5-blocker

L362[15:13:52] <Shambling> same thing for me lol

L363[15:13:57] <Shambling> I think you linked several

L364[15:14:20] <Shambling> killing html5 is just as good or better on chrome, as this way I can block the ads :p

L365[15:15:04] <gigaherz> uBlock doesn't have any issues blocking ads

L366[15:15:08] <gigaherz> for me

L367[15:15:12] <gigaherz> on firefox and chrome

L368[15:15:48] <Corosus> same

L369[15:15:51] <Shambling> never can be too sure, lol

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L371[15:16:37] <Corosus> abp had issues blocking youtube ads on chrome but that was probably due to abp selling out

L372[15:16:43] <Corosus> ublock origin is great

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L376[15:24:41] <Shambling> lets hope they don't sell out to an ad company as well

L377[15:24:42] <Shambling> lol

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L380[15:27:01] <Corosus> theyre open source, and even if they do, another alternative will pop up, its the circle of software life

L381[15:27:22] <Corosus> make thing, get popular, get greedy, lose community, repeat

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L388[16:11:38] <Shambling> *sigh* does tema not read his issues? still has unbaked quads everywhere

L389[16:11:54] <Shambling> what was the purpose of updating if not updating for an actual bug

L390[16:13:02] <Shambling> guess he's too busy building meme world types

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L393[16:32:03] <gigaherz> hmf

L394[16:32:14] <gigaherz> is there any actual mod that change the "moved too quickly" speed, or removes the check?

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L396[16:33:53] <gigaherz> the rubberbanding is getting rather annoying

L397[16:34:17] <gigaherz> all the google results I can find are either stupid workarounds that don't work, or stuff specific to bukkit/spigot

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L400[16:45:06] <ScottehBoeh> Finished weapons for second Orc legion

L401[16:45:08] <ScottehBoeh> http://i.imgur.com/OY6A4xl.png

L402[16:45:13] <ScottehBoeh> includes that bladed staff :D

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L407[16:50:49] <ScottehBoeh> I'm hoping to get server-side regions set up

L408[16:51:05] <ScottehBoeh> Meaning the server owner can set up regions for towns etc. I can then add a map with discovered locations

L409[16:55:49] <gigaherz> I can't be bothered to program this idea, but I have always thought that big servers could benefit from having "claimed areas" for players / teams, and a way to discard non-claimed chunks when they unload from memory (or after some time or something)

L410[16:56:08] <gigaherz> incidently, that would regenerate the chunks

L411[16:56:21] <gigaherz> but resources would have to generate with new seeds

L412[16:56:29] <gigaherz> otherwise people would memorize the location of diamonds ;P

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L414[16:58:14] <Akkarin> Well switching the entire seed would ruin your world. Instead just make the populators non deterministic ;-D

L415[16:58:33] <Ordinastie> that's basically what he said

L416[16:59:20] <gigaherz> yeah by "new seeds" I meant like

L417[16:59:38] <gigaherz> use the current time or something, so that it's not always the same contents

L418[17:00:42] <gigaherz> and by "always"

L419[17:00:53] <gigaherz> I mean "since I played Landmark"

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L421[17:01:32] <Ordinastie> I'm glad I didn't bought it

L422[17:01:47] <gigaherz> same

L423[17:01:50] <gigaherz> wait no

L424[17:01:52] <gigaherz> I did buy it

L425[17:01:54] <gigaherz> I was a founder lol

L426[17:02:02] <Ordinastie> buuurn

L427[17:02:10] <gigaherz> I don't regret buying it

L428[17:02:13] <gigaherz> it was fun for a while

L429[17:02:17] <gigaherz> but it was terribly disappointing

L430[17:02:38] <gigaherz> before EQN was cancelled

L431[17:02:43] * TechnicianLP2 has an idea for his next project now

L432[17:02:51] <gigaherz> the game was pretty much an excuse for the EQN team to get free art designs

L433[17:03:02] <Ordinastie> yeah, but I didn't really mind that

L434[17:03:25] <gigaherz> and then they started introducing "survival" features

L435[17:03:54] <gigaherz> and I don't mean mining for building resources

L436[17:04:03] <gigaherz> I mean like, caves with ruins in them and such

L437[17:04:11] <gigaherz> which, IMO, were never really interesting at all

L438[17:07:35] <gigaherz> the thing that saddens me, is that I never got around to taking some proper screenshots of my tower

L439[17:07:43] <gigaherz> before the world was reset at one point

L440[17:07:53] <Ordinastie> they reset the world? ôO

L441[17:08:02] <gigaherz> between alpha and beta, yes

L442[17:08:10] <Ordinastie> ah, yeah, makes sense

L443[17:08:13] <gigaherz> also

L444[17:08:24] <gigaherz> the claims had an upkeep time

L445[17:08:32] <gigaherz> and would expire if you were offline for more than X days

L446[17:08:35] <gigaherz> (30+)

L447[17:08:50] <gigaherz> thing is

L448[17:09:03] <gigaherz> I also never got around to getting back the materials for the props

L449[17:09:11] <gigaherz> that I had inside the build

L450[17:09:17] <gigaherz> so even if I did place back the template

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L452[17:09:38] <gigaherz> (it was almost 100% made of the basic materials that were unlimited and free to place)

L453[17:09:57] <gigaherz> I could never be bothered to get everything back in place

L454[17:10:05] <gigaherz> so yeah, I can't show it :(

L455[17:10:29] <gigaherz> IU do however have one screenshot that I took during alpha, of a predecessor of that tower build

L456[17:10:29] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/ScreenShot020.jpg

L457[17:10:50] <Ordinastie> not bad

L458[17:11:16] <TechnicianLP2> nicelooking game

L459[17:11:22] <TechnicianLP2> and tower

L460[17:11:35] <gigaherz> ah another one

L461[17:11:36] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/screenshot_20141003-03-11-08.jpg

L462[17:11:39] <gigaherz> that was a later version

L463[17:12:00] <gigaherz> TechnicianLP2: the game was nice

L464[17:12:03] <gigaherz> and the building was interesting

L465[17:12:16] <gigaherz> building mechanics*

L466[17:12:47] <gigaherz> the blocks were much smaller than in mc

L467[17:13:08] <gigaherz> a human-sized door was around 4x6 or so blocks

L468[17:13:20] <gigaherz> or was it 6x10 or 6x12

L469[17:13:23] <gigaherz> anyhow

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L471[17:14:31] <gigaherz> yeah counting blocks, seems to be 6 wide, since the windows are 6 tall, and I used rotated doors for the windows

L472[17:14:35] <gigaherz> (later)

L473[17:15:28] <TechnicianLP2> horizontal doors sound interesting

L474[17:16:00] <Corosus> its a trap!

L475[17:16:08] <Ordinastie> it's for when you eat more than you grow up

L476[17:16:26] <TechnicianLP2> the cake is a lie!

L477[17:16:59] <Ordinastie> does it matter if it tastes good anyway ?

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L482[17:40:12] <gigaherz> so, I guess no one knows anything that would help with the moved too quickly rubberbanding when flying in survival?

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L484[17:41:02] <gigaherz> disableElytraMovementCheck only seems to be used when flying with elytra, which is not the case ;P

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L488[17:49:27] <gigaherz> oh well I'll take a look at this myself, over the weekend

L489[17:49:31] <Akkarin> how about reducing overall lag instead of fixing symptoms? ;-)

L490[17:49:31] <gigaherz> night ppl

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L492[17:49:39] <ghz|afk> Akkarin: not lag

L493[17:49:41] <ghz|afk> the lag's fine

L494[17:49:43] <ghz|afk> proble mis

L495[17:49:59] <ghz|afk> when using a ring of flight (angel ring, winds of the bats, or similar)

L496[17:50:09] <ghz|afk> it's easy to fly faster than the server allows

L497[17:50:22] <Akkarin> ah. in that case I'd say the checks they put in place are just not up to the task for that particular form of flight

L498[17:50:32] <ghz|afk> yep

L499[17:50:45] <ghz|afk> the check has a limit of "300" when elytra

L500[17:50:49] <ghz|afk> and "100" when not elytra

L501[17:50:57] <Akkarin> Well the elytra check is already a workaround at best

L502[17:51:01] <ghz|afk> doesn't take into account players who have flying enabled

L503[17:51:08] <Akkarin> where workaround has an equal definition to "a filthy hack"

L504[17:51:20] <ghz|afk> and the gamerule to disable elytra check does NOT affect non-elytra-flying players

L505[17:51:26] <ghz|afk> so you get the "100" version enforced

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L507[17:51:37] <Akkarin> well logically

L508[17:52:04] <ghz|afk> so there's different possible fixes

L509[17:52:06] <ghz|afk> simplest of all

L510[17:52:11] <ghz|afk> is a mod that dumps that code into the trash

L511[17:52:20] <Akkarin> It's just there so you can stop players from having mad fun while wearing an elytra :P

L512[17:52:39] <ghz|afk> so if the mod is installed, it just doesn't care about speed

L513[17:52:43] <ghz|afk> and form there

L514[17:52:45] <Akkarin> well entirely dumping it sounds a little extreme. Improving it would be the better bet

L515[17:52:57] <ghz|afk> other better fixes would do things better

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L517[17:53:22] <Akkarin> to be fair I haven't looked into it in a while so no clue what causes weirdness in the first place

L518[17:53:23] <ghz|afk> from including creative-style flight as if it was elytra

L519[17:53:42] <ghz|afk> to adding a whole-new gamerule for it

L520[17:53:52] <ghz|afk> either way

L521[17:53:57] <ghz|afk> not going to do any of that right now

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L524[18:07:36] <Shambling> compress all space and time while flying

L525[18:07:39] <Shambling> as if in the nether

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L527[18:08:04] <Akkarin> Better write a neat COREMOD for it and REQUIRE IT EVERYWHERE

L528[18:08:06] * Akkarin runs for his life

L529[18:08:28] <Hink> How could I go about getting the information of a compass target if a client is holding out a compass in their hotbar?

L530[18:09:12] <Corosus> the legend goes if you say coremod 3 times in a row it summons l3x and he deletes your project

L531[18:09:29] <Hink> spooky

L532[18:09:37] <Akkarin> Don't worry. He's busy being hugged right now :P

L533[18:09:47] <Corosus> omai

L534[18:10:07] <Akkarin> or at least I'd assume he is

L535[18:12:39] <Shambling> so whats wrong with coremods now?

L536[18:12:46] <Shambling> do they touch minecraft in naughty ways?

L537[18:13:53] <Corosus> first try to PR it into forge in the sanest way possible

L538[18:14:08] <Corosus> then when all else fails give up and screw with people by making a coremod

L539[18:14:30] <Shambling> oh, it a actually requires having the mod loader call put into forge itself? thought you could just overload a class to load it

L540[18:14:38] <Shambling> ah now I get you

L541[18:15:06] <Shambling> but apparently I'm having trouble seeing and typing :P

L542[18:15:20] <Corosus> coremods can put code into methods, change their signatures, more or less anything, i belive most just inject code into existing methods, as that is the most cross mod compatible way, but still

L543[18:15:49] <Akkarin> even that can break if you don't write them in a sane way

L544[18:16:12] <Akkarin> generally patching things is the worst you can do since it almost guarantees that you end up in patch hell at some point

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L546[18:16:32] <Akkarin> Especially at this point when everybody and their cat provide and require one ;-D

L547[18:17:05] <Corosus> indeed

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L551[18:22:58] <Corosus> Hink, dont compasses just point north or did they get some newer purpose that went over my head

L552[18:23:34] <Corosus> oh world spawn

L553[18:23:42] <Corosus> shows how often i use them, aka never

L554[18:23:51] <Hink> xD

L555[18:24:32] <Hink> How could I get the location/direction the compass is pointing?

L556[18:25:33] <Corosus> the getSpawnToAngle method in ItemCompass file has the trig math required to sorda get the angle

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L563[18:51:55] <Hink> I can't find the net.minecraft.item.ItemCommpass which should extend Item. Hmmmm.

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L566[18:59:52] <Hink> Perhaps it's not implemented in 1.8.9?

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L578[20:20:27] <killjoy> Oops. I tried to take a 4x screenshot when in 4k

L579[20:20:32] <killjoy> that's... 16k

L580[20:20:39] <killjoy> (I ran out of memory)

L581[20:21:16] <killjoy> or is it 32K?

L582[20:22:32] <killjoy> I can take an 8k screenshot fine

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